ofa of a health, and how we basis of a health, and how we can and should eat better. i'll have an update on the continuing protests by dutch farmers as they continue to try and protect their industry against their own government. we'll ask if women are having adverse , menstrual are having adverse, menstrual and gynaecological problems relating to the pfizer job. plus, a fantastic great britain , as usual tonight and plenty of chat with my panellists, julie cooke and lieutenant colonel stuart crawford. but first, an update on the latest news from riyadh . thanks, neal. here's the riyadh. thanks, neal. here's the latest from the gb newsroom islands . t shock. leo varadkar islands. t shock. leo varadkar says a deal on the northern ireland protocol could be made in the next few days. but there's still a gap in negotiations . it comes as the negotiations. it comes as the prime minister faces criticism after proposing a meeting between king charles and the president of the european commission. that's live on the line was due to continue talks of rishi sunak before meeting the but trip has now

the king but her trip has now been cancelled . later says it been cancelled. later says it would constitute tional would have had constitute tional implications. speaking exclusively to gb news, the foreign secretary said the government was looking for cross—community support for any deal cross—community support for any deal. we remain focussed on the outcome rather than the method and the outcome is to protect northern ireland's place in the united kingdom, to make sure that people and businesses and the political representative of these people in northern ireland are comfortable with the resolution. whilst also making sure that we protect the uk internal market. those are very much our motivations. that's what will drive our actions . what will drive our actions. well, most members of the g20 have condemned the war in ukraine, except for china and russia, who refuse to sign a joint declaration . it comes as joint declaration. it comes as ukraine's president says he plans to meet china's xi jinping after beijing set out a peace plan for the two countries. volodymyr zelenskyy says it would be beneficial for security around the world. probably not to motty . sure, it's correct to

to motty. sure, it's correct to think that if there are already thoughts that somehow correspond to respect for international law, territorial integrity and some security issues . i believe some security issues. i believe we should use this and work with china on this matter. why not.7 i want to believe that china will be on the side of a fair peace, which means on our side . this is which means on our side. this is very important to me. i really want to believe that china will not supply weapons to russia . not supply weapons to russia. well, russian citizens living in britain have staged a protest outside the russian embassy in london against their country's invasion of ukraine. it comes a day after the one year anniversary of the start of president putin's in—car motion. the widow of poison dissident alexander litvinenko , who was alexander litvinenko, who was there, said she was proud of the protesters . i'm very proud to protesters. i'm very proud to see this big crowd of russian people. a lot of young people, maybe it never went to this kind of protest. but i saw their faces and they'd been all very

loud to say how they're against the war, how they support ukraine, how they hate putin. in other news , the death toll from other news, the death toll from the earthquakes that hit turkey and syria has now surpassed 50,000. united nations estimates that 1.5 million people have been made homeless , with 500,000 been made homeless, with 500,000 new homes needed . president new homes needed. president erdogan is pledging to rebuild within the year, but experts are warning not to put safety before speed. warning not to put safety before speed . the 3.7 magnitude speed. the 3.7 magnitude earthquake was felt in south wales last night. the british geological survey says it hit britain more near crickhowell just before midnight with the tremor felt as far away as cardiff. resident on social media have described being woken up to have having their whole house shaking . hundreds have house shaking. hundreds have gathered in county tyrone to demand an end to violence in northern ireland after the attempted murder of an off duty policeman . detective chief

policeman. detective chief inspector john caldwell was shot outside a sports centre on wednesday. he remains in critical condition. five suspects have been arrested. detectives say the incident is being treated as terror related and could be connected to the new ira the defence secretary says he's confident that the troubled project to build nearly 600 ajax fighting vehicles has now turned a corner . the £5.5 now turned a corner. the £5.5 billion programme has faced criticism over severe delays and technical issues after nearly 13 years. it's yet to deploy a single tank. ben wallace says soldiers are now being trained in how to use them and hopes they'll be active in the military within the next two years. when i took over as secretary of defence three and a half years ago, this was a troubled programme. it started its life in march 2010 and i was determined that we were either going to fix this or have to find alternatives . and so we put find alternatives. and so we put a lot of effort into worked with general dynamics, the prime

contractor, with the army. contractor, and with the army. and, know, i think i think and, you know, i think i think after its use, the trials that it completed at christmas time know started turn a corner know it started to turn a corner and thousands of displaced ukrainians are being given the chance to go to the eurovision song contest in may. around 3000 tickets will be made available to those who are currently living here in the uk. liverpool has been chosen to host on behalf of ukraine, who won last yeah behalf of ukraine, who won last year. the government has announced that year. the government has announced tha t £10 million in announced that £10 million in funding to make sure the events showcase culture showcase is ukrainian culture will be made available . we're on will be made available. we're on tv online and on dab+ radio. this is gb news. back now to neil oliver live . neil oliver live. the rationing tomatoes in the supermarkets . tomatoes in the supermarkets. what told us about supply chains , bad weather and the price of heating . but right now, in terms

heating. but right now, in terms of the messaging , i suspect it's of the messaging, i suspect it's more about pushing the world, rationing less about any believable shortage of food and more about getting us used to heating the world. doubt if heating the world. no doubt if experience is anything to go by, the rest will come later. my money says the rationing up for our smart phones is already sitting hard drive sitting on a hard drive somewhere we are . for somewhere ready when we are. for now, it's more of a familiar process of psychological manipulation to get us acquainted with the general idea of food scarcity so that we're well trained. when the plan reality unrolled. we were reality is unrolled. we were given the same treatment with words like lockdown and pandemic mandate and denial. nudge, nudge, rationing is a word from our parents and grandparents generation. a bit like war in europe and fascist. and now they're back in fashion once more . rationing. i ask you. more. rationing. i ask you. well, the landfills swell with fresh food dumped every day. the manipulation is invariably about an iron hand in a velvet glove. softly softly. catchy monkey. much of the messaging in the

mainstream media is and has been for years, redolent of world war ii and the fabled blitz spirit. we're all in it together, making do mustn't grumble, doing our bit. standing up for democracy . bit. standing up for democracy. defending the free world. sacrifice keep calm and carry on. someone somewhere must think . our heads at the back . since . our heads at the back. since i've mentioned the d word , which i've mentioned the d word, which is democracy. why not pause for a moment to consider whether any of us has had a chance to vote? voting being that part of democracy were invited to think matters most on any of this. do you remember ever voting to give the government the power lock the government the power to lock us our to shut our us in our homes, to shut our children's of pubs and children's schools of pubs and restaurants, shops and businesses , to tell who we businesses, to tell us who we could visit or half our could visit or half in our homes, whether go for homes, whether we could go for a walk, travel within our own country, less these country, far less beyond these shores. you remember voting shores. do you remember voting to employers to mandate to empower employers to mandate medical procedures for the staff ? vote on the subject of propaganda who thought to convince us it was okay to demonise exclude healthy demonise and exclude healthy fellow on the grounds fellow citizens on the grounds they might carrying an

they might be carrying an invisible you don't invisible disease. if you don't remember whether or not you were ianed remember whether or not you were invited to involved in invited to get involved in a conversation or debate about conversation or a debate about all perhaps it's all of this, perhaps it's because you were quite understandably distraught , acted understandably distraught, acted most the most of the time by the bombardment state sanctioned bombardment of state sanctioned messaging by politicians and the mainstream media. or maybe you were just afraid of the guaranteed ridicule or losing your job. guaranteed ridicule or losing yourjob. it's not just us here in the uk either. i wonder how many us citizens ask themselves when they voted to have their government send well over $100 billion to ukraine at a time of critical hardship for millions of americans unable to afford food or heating. rather than ask questions or in the case of the taxpayer , citizens of east taxpayer, citizens of east palestine or how liberally dusted as they are, with fallout from a venal chloride mushroom cloud ignited with the go ahead of their own elected officials after a train derailment . after a train derailment. perhaps querying why the predicament is not the stuff of a national emergency. while fish die in the rivers and their pets and animals die in the fields that are apparently expected to be reassured the sight of joe

be reassured by the sight of joe biden posing for photos thousands of miles away in ukraine. while air raid sirens provide sound effects and president zelenskyy tonnes at once more and his freshly laundered combats so many times over the past few years, i thought to myself, who do these people think they are? all of them once elected to office, helping us towards world war. taking away our natural freedoms. who do these people think they are that feel empowered to disregard their liberty? a very existence as independent individuals and spend their time posturing and politicking, fiddling while rome burns? who do these people think they are? bullet creating and then ignoring hardship . ship then ignoring hardship. ship enacting policies to wreck livelihoods. economies and the well—being of millions . and then well—being of millions. and then standing by while real people suffer the consequences of their vainglorious, self—serving nonsense disguised by propaganda to shape, only to distract , nonsense disguised by propaganda to shape, only to distract, and by god to the need to distract us. let's stop for a moment and

think what the reality of the situation is. the undeniable reality , which is that we reality, which is that we already have the potential for more than enough food , energy more than enough food, energy and everything else courtesy of existing technology and therefore any alleged shortages in the west are only fraudulent fiction . i said at the top, we fiction. i said at the top, we were being familiarised with rationing and making do. there's a glaring paradox in all of this. at the same time as being nudged into thinking we must do without what similar tediously droning and surplus of every sort we have centuries of affordable energy under our feet and yet were bullied into a false reality in which fewer and fewer people can afford to heat their homes or put fuel in the cars and vans. every year we bulldoze millions of pounds worth of food into landfill . worth of food into landfill. well, now being told to do with erstwhile familiar foodstuffs . erstwhile familiar foodstuffs. we do much the same with clothes made in sweatshops and what once before discarding into the same landfills. we upgrade our phones and other tech and put last year's offering in the bin, disregarding the lithium and

cobalt and the rest of the precious metals mined by child slaves out of sight and out of mind . well, since we ought to mind. well, since we ought to junk gasp boilers and our junk our gasp boilers and our petrol cars , our petrol and diesel cars, our government syphon off taxes into subsidies for wind turbines and solar panels that will then selves be at more toxic landfill in 20 years time. it's not just about consumables that we can actually touch every moment of every day. we are deluged with information and as well data so—called news, but made increasingly incapable of discerning how much, if any, of it is worth knowing in the first place. so much chaff in which to hide the wheat was drowning in words , but struggling words, but struggling desperately find so much as desperately to find so much as a sentence worth reading . instead sentence worth reading. instead of being educated at school, learning objectively and meaningful about a shared history heritage and culture, about to understand the about how to understand the world and contributing to its betterment children too betterment. our children are too often indoctrinated with propaganda drilled with ideologies, predict it upon obsession, not with the content of people's characters, but with the colour of their skins and

the colour of their skins and the nature of their sexual preferences. real or imagined. and a television series that's been the work of hundreds , if been the work of hundreds, if not thousands of people spread over a or more, an effort over a year or more, an effort that was once stuff of a that was once the stuff of a shared experience , keeping us shared experience, keeping us engaged and talking together as communities end , communities for months on end, as watched in a single as binge watched in a single night in every way imaginable. our dopamine receptors, especially those of our children, are being bludgeoned into nothingness. an eight year old boy with a smartphone and an internet connection can help himself in a week. two more naked women and more possessions and predicaments than genghis khan in a lifetime of khan saw in a lifetime of murderous conquest . khan saw in a lifetime of murderous conquest. sickening surplus and overload all around. and yet , here we are, rationing and yet, here we are, rationing food in our supermarkets. pardon my french, but what the hell ? my french, but what the hell? rationing tomatoes is just a symptom of how corrupted and bent out of shape our food industry has become. at the mercy of greedy corporations committed only to profit for the few at the expense of the health of many. let me stress not

of the many. let me stress not one jot of this is the fault farmers. those in a government made means of regulation and obstacles to the job of producing healthy food for a healthy population . eu healthy population. eu regulations make it legal to label as milk the white liquid obtained from processing almonds and oats. there has to be ground up crickets in the bread and hundreds of other food products besides industrially processed vegetable that are labelled chicken, fish and mince . they chicken, fish and mince. they make oil from sunflowers and rape seeds process away. it's rancid, toxic nature and sell it and food and a addressing and as and food and a addressing and as an ingredient in salt powder for getting stubborn stains out of clothes. it's in baby food as well. tomatoes are in season in the uk in february, as you may have noticed. why should they be? why are we constantly eating our attention on what food is in season and local and good for us and people how to cook and teaching people how to cook it fair part of the it? i travel a fair part of the length of country every length of this country every week my home in scotland week between my home in scotland and london . aside and this studio in london. aside from the odd moan or two of built up area, the vast majority

of the landscape is green fields. why aren't we making the most the fertile with most of the fertile land with which blessed? instead of which we are blessed? instead of lofty handing a third of lofty talk of handing a third of it back the beavers , if food it back to the beavers, if food is premium, reaching is at a premium, reaching a point where might be point where rationing might be required, are paying required, why are we paying farmers of the farmers to get out of the business and sell off business altogether and sell off the ? transnational the land? transnational corporations god alone knows corporations for god alone knows what purpose. what planes and ships burning fuel to transport avocados. 4000 of miles around the world from places for the mass cultivation of the product causes catastrophic damage to local water supply . what do you local water supply. what do you think is the answer to these questions? and our leaders , so questions? and our leaders, so inexperienced, so clueless about the practicalities of the world that they just don't how to that they just don't know how to run country for the benefit run the country for the benefit of the people they're supposed to serve? are they knowingly to serve? or are they knowingly in service of the people in the service of the people that represent, but that elected to represent, but of transnational corporations? that elected to represent, but of trmarketsnal corporations? that elected to represent, but of trmarkets and:orporations? that elected to represent, but of trmarkets and the)rations? that elected to represent, but of trmarkets and the bank1s? that elected to represent, but of trmarkets and the bank for the markets and the bank for international settlements? which of the two options do you think it might be? or is it simpler and more depressing still our and more depressing still of our leaders, in fact, simply persuaded themselves that

distraction is the only game they need to are we simply they need to play? are we simply to be fed a diet of propaganda and downright lies about health and downright lies about health and food and the climate and war and food and the climate and war and biology and race, and to pursue unwelcome , fused, pursue unwelcome, fused, exhausted and anxious, we won't nofice exhausted and anxious, we won't notice when they pick the last penny of our pockets and look as down in a digital ghetto , down in a digital ghetto, watched round the clock by cameras and listening devices we pay cameras and listening devices we pay through the nose to carry in our own pockets. and the rationing . here's the rationing tomato. here's the thing . the world has been run thing. the world has been run off the rails . no wonder it's off the rails. no wonder it's all about distraction . because all about distraction. because distraction is all we have . distraction is all we have. greed and unrestrained power have brought us to the only destination that was ever in view, which is right here, right now. they wouldn't fix the mess because the mess suits them. i don't have all the answers , but don't have all the answers, but i do know the solution starts with ignore any more of the nonsense. the problem is not with the tomato, it's the rationing. the problem is the surplus of lies that keep selling . stop buying them .

selling. stop buying them. that's my opinion, of course. you're free to disagree with me. keep your tweets and emails coming all through the show. you can email gb views at gbnews.uk and you can tweet me as well at gb news. and i'll try to get your comments later in the show. i'm joined this evening by journalist and authorjulie journalist and author julie cooke. and by defence analyst and political commentator , and political commentator, lieutenant colonel stuart crawford . good evening both. crawford. good evening both. good for being good evening. thanks for being here. i'm rationing here. julie i'm rationing tomatoes and the rest of it. do you feel you're being treated taken seriously? or do you think like me that we're just being distracted ? first of all, i distracted? first of all, i think your monologue that really summed it up. i think we we've been taught or we've been indoctrinated into a world of planned obsolescence with everything. so whether it's, as you say, phone upgraded, you say, a phone being upgraded, a television that will eventually not work, parts that will need repairing will break and need repairing and landfills. and then chucked into landfills. and forced

and i think that forced obsolescence is linked very much to the idea that now you can't have tomatoes because we're taught we're a throwaway society. first of all. and also the fact that tomatoes, as you rightly said, aren't even available in february . again, available in february. again, it's that kind of now culture that we've all sort of got to unlearn. i think i'm guilty of it. i love tomatoes year round . it. i love tomatoes year round. there's nothing better than a tomato made in britain in july , tomato made in britain in july, you know. and so i think it's all very much linked. and it's all very much linked. and it's all quite frightening, really . all quite frightening, really. stuart i think it's distraction and i think that's at the heart of it. i think there's such a mass that's there deliberately or by accident, by ineptitude or by bad luck, let's say . and by bad luck, let's say. and rather than fix it, they just try to keep us looking the other way. i said, heads zipped up the back. how do you feel? taken seriously. well, i think i mean, if i could just maybe go back to the bit about where i live in a democracy. the problem is that we're living in what's called a representative democracy. as you know, and our elected

representatives are meant to representatives are meant to represent their constituents . represent their constituents. but are elected, they but when they are elected, they seem this transition seem to make this transition between representing their constituents and representing their political party and just telling their constituents what's going to happen . and i'm what's going to happen. and i'm quite a fan of direct democracy, which is a sometimes painted as a perpetual refrain . a a perpetual refrain. a professional referendum is . and professional referendum is. and i think that that's dangerous as well. but i think really we need to become much more careful about our electoral representatives and the means whereby we can recall them if they're not representing us properly. i feel lied to . do you properly. i feel lied to. do you feel you're your you're in receipt of the truth from the very people that you might want to hear the truth from ? i mean, to hear the truth from? i mean, again , you saw me smiling when again, you saw me smiling when ben wallace was on there saying that the ill fated and disastrous car crash, ajax armoured car program is now on track. i mean, that'sjust track. i mean, that's just nonsense. all they've done is

put in a few cushions to stop the vibration , a few grommets in the vibration, a few grommets in the vibration, a few grommets in the wheels to stop them rattling and told the guys to wear two sets of defenders . and it's sets of defenders. and it's going to be it's taken so long to come to surface that it's going to be obsolescent . when it going to be obsolescent. when it comes to the front line . so, comes to the front line. so, yes, we're being lied to and we're being lied to because people are more interested in preserving reputation than delivering good deal . yeah, delivering a good deal. yeah, tomatoes are off the menu, but we'll just expect it to do deal with this day of non—stop nonsense . but on a break already nonsense. but on a break already after which foods is the basis of our health. so how could we be eating better? actress and biohacker davinia taylor will be here to give us some tips. see you in a couple of minutes

welcome back. already to neil oliver. life in the west. we live in a world of obesity, diabetes, general, ill health,

depression and anxiety. so it seems . it also depression and anxiety. so it seems. it also seems to me that it's the food industry that pumps us full of the processed p0p, pumps us full of the processed pop, sugar and veg to boil. that makes us sick and sad from cradle to grave . a new injection cradle to grave. a new injection from big pharma ozempic is billed as the antidote to obesity and might be the most expensive such treatment in history. no surprises there . my history. no surprises there. my first guest tonight, actress and biohacker davinia taylor, has made it her business to understand how the food we eat is the ultimate key to health. good evening. hi. thanks for having me. good to see you. i'm. i'm getting more and more obsessed with this subject of food and underpins everything about us physically, psychologically , not. what's psychologically, not. what's been your food journey? okay, so i've got four kids. four boys. and after i had number three, i do none of them, which i know sounds terrible. after i had number three, saw my mom got really ill with cancer and i started comfort eating and i couldn't stop. i'd put down alcohol many, many years ago

because that used to be my crutch. but food stepped in to comfort me . and i was being told comfort me. and i was being told by doctors, you know, you're borderline obese , etc, you just borderline obese, etc, you just need to have a calorie controlled diet. and i found that whole willpower thing very difficult . it's quite addictive difficult. it's quite addictive by nature . and all these whole by nature. and all these whole grains, vegetable oils, hidden sugars, even in things like sausages, were just trying to triggering my mechanisms in my brain have and more and brain to have more and more and more. i couldn't get off more. and i couldn't get off this peak and trough of this sort of peak and trough of sugars stuff. and was it sugars and stuff. and it was it was so debilitating because once i up something i picked up something like cereal morning, i was on cereal in the morning, i was on a roller coaster the rest of a roller coaster for the rest of the day. and it just knocks your self—esteem up, piling on weight. i. but the brain fog weight. but i. but the brain fog was killer for me. i had no was the killer for me. i had no energy, no zest for life at all. and so after number three, i got pregnant. and pregnant. number four and i changed altogether. changed my eating altogether. and know i mean, you and did you know i mean, you were feeling this, but were aware of feeling this, but you're as brain fog. you're describing as brain fog. did was that did you know it was food that was doing that to you? absolutely not. i just thought you to a carb heavy you had to have a carb heavy

diet. mean, i still have diet. i mean, i still have carbohydrates time carbohydrates now, but i time them. them at night. so i them. i have them at night. so i have, like, salads at night. so you literally have a carb coma, you literally have a carb coma, you know, you would do you know, like you would do after roasted. you take bread after a roasted. you take bread to to i do. i did do. to go to sleep. i do. i did do. and than valium, and it's better than valium, addictive, fun. and you can time you your hormones you can hack into your hormones to try to hack into your mental health. i'm clear productive health. so i'm clear productive dunng health. so i'm clear productive during lots of during the day. i have lots of energy, whereas at night—time i just into melatonin in just nip into my melatonin in production a decent production and i have a decent night's it's fascinating night's sleep. it's fascinating how do you can how you can do it. you can control thinking. so this control your thinking. so this is the hacking is the this is the hacking you're talking yeah. you you're talking about. yeah. you hack into your biochemistry. is biohacking. sounds bit biohacking. it sounds a bit space not super space age, but it's not super easy. just knowing your own easy. it's just knowing your own body your own triggers and body in your own triggers and stresses and stresses and mechanisms. and it's industry that it's a fabulous industry that that that that's that really i hear that that's strikes chord with me because that really i hear that that's sfeels chord with me because that really i hear that that's sfeel that hord with me because that really i hear that that's sfeel that lyrd with me because that really i hear that that's sfeel that i was/ith me because that really i hear that that's sfeel that i was told ne because that really i hear that that's sfeel that i was told aboutause i feel that i was told about pubuc i feel that i was told about public health and i don't believe that public believe that it's public health. i just the health of i think it's just the health of the individual. yes and this idea that they've that they idea that they've got that they can up with these size can come up with these one size fits down solutions. fits all, top down solutions. everyone, everyone everyone, take this. everyone have 50 kilos. of have a maybe 50 kilos. of course, like somebody who is

actually to be honest, being a woman little more woman is a little bit more tncky woman is a little bit more tricky because are so complex tricky because we are so complex to track that they even to track that they don't even test they generally use test on us. they generally use manage or something. we're manage 25 or something. we're supposed be the you supposed to be the same, you know, also there's a lot of know, and also there's a lot of contact , constant fibre rhetoric contact, constant fibre rhetoric . you have to have whole grains and i'm tracking my insulin , my and i'm tracking my insulin, my sugar at the moment in my blood. and as soon as i have brown bread, whole whole grain bread, it spikes so ferociously right the way up the scale. and that triggers brain fog because your body's saturated with glucose . body's saturated with glucose. this is brown bread. it just turns as as you turns into sugar. as soon as you consume it, it turns to sugar. so i might as well just have an ice cream and talk to me as well. my one of my of bet while at the moment is vegetable oil. talk about . okay so the talk to me about. okay so the soul of vegetable oil vegetable oil deemed a healthy polyunsaturated fat your body doesn't recognise it . it was doesn't recognise it. it was originally used as a detergent to claim form of machinery. then some clever guy decided hang on,

we've got another revenue of income, let's put it into the food chain. so and it's run said it's run safe to do all sorts to it. oh did the so many processes all different go into it and you know, it's deemed heart healthy. it's the opposite. the body doesn't understand what it is. and actually there's a correlation between use, the correlation between the use, the increased rapeseed, increased use of rapeseed, rapeseed sunflower or rapeseed or sunflower or vegetable direct vegetable oil, direct correlation with heart disease. so what deemed heart healthy so what was deemed heart healthy seems to be the catalyst for the opposite. and argue that low opposite. and i'd argue that low in fat diets are part in saturated fat diets are part of the reason why we've got this alzheimer's the brain alzheimer's epidemic. the brain runs on fat as a not sugar. we are demonising . what? well, fats are demonising. what? well, fats for what sugar did. and this vegetable, is it deterred and so it strips your got all the mucous lining in your guts you can't get any messages to your brain that you're satisfied that you've had enough food, so you're constantly hungry. it's literally eating detergent. it's crazy and it's everywhere. it's the same stuff that takes the stains a clue . the pink stuff stains a clue. the pink stuff first. yeah that's plant based. so i mean, it is absolutely

preposterous that it's in there. extraordinary. i mean, what do you think the whole basis , you you think the whole basis, you know, everything is about food . know, everything is about food. that's the that's the fundamental. what run fundamental. that's what you run on. you're eating toxic . on. and if you're eating toxic. well, mean, i know i'm no well, i mean, i know i'm no expert. i mean, i've just been persuaded go back to olive persuaded to go back to olive oil and lots , lots oil and butter and lots, lots and lots . yeah, the body and lots. yeah, the body understands it. it has them from a millennia. and yet. so i've sort of been inculcated into this idea that if you have vegetable oil, a sunflower, or is somehow intrinsically more, more helps , not even food. it's more helps, not even food. it's not food . and another crazy not food. and another crazy thing you know, the low thing is, you know, the low cholesterol rhetoric. so the american heart association and that guidelines is basically where the of world where the rest of the world takes this information from. takes all this information from. they a paragraph they have got a tiny paragraph somewhere within somewhere like within this biblical dr. argument, and biblical size. dr. argument, and it actually says dietary cholesterol is no longer a molecule of concern for overconsumption. but guess what? we don't know. press on it. so the doctors don't know because they're too busy prescribing it. statens, which is probably the

biggest drug on the planet and i'm not i'm not like conspiracy theories. it's fact. their theories. no, it's a fact. their it's their but no one knows about it . so i it's their but no one knows about it. so i can talk about statins very quickly. are you saying actually saying statins are actually counterproductive as well? actually, lot of people are actually, a lot of people are saying that it's is triggering dementia . the overuse of statins dementia. the overuse of statins is draining. the brain, has its preferred fuel source, which is saturated fat and cholesterol is what your brain is made. every single cell in your body is made of cholesterol. it transports hormones. so i think a huge, big led is going to be lifted on it soon. mean, people actually in soon. i mean, people actually in the people calling the industry, people are calling alzheimer's diabetes. alzheimer's type three diabetes. i it's the reason i ask is i mean, it's the reason i ask is because daughter was because my daughter was a doctor. yeah. and i'm of a certain clearly . i certain age. clearly, clearly. i said, you're one of the few people that i know that isn't on statins. and i said, should i be taking them? so any side effects? yeah. so any side effects. julie do feel when effects. julie do you feel when you this kind of you hear this kind of conversation, you hear this conversation, when you hear this kind information, it almost kind of information, it almost sounds sinister. you know, it almost feels if we're almost feels as if we're being made so that we can be sure

made ill so that we can be sure that another industry can make made ill so that we can be sure theinvertedr industry can make made ill so that we can be sure theinverted commas. can make made ill so that we can be sure theinverted commas. exactly|ke us inverted commas. exactly exactly. and i mean, i was a teenagerin exactly. and i mean, i was a teenager in the nineties, in the seventies, teenage in the nineties. and in nineties it nineties. and in the nineties it was all about don't eat fat, 30 fat. fat are bad. so as a teenager, what i was constantly worried i grew worried about my weight. i grew up riveters , brown bread, up on riveters, brown bread, satellites, bison , everything, satellites, bison, everything, you fat . she went to the you know, fat. she went to the devil and it's really hard to unlearn that as an older woman because you're told that. but now i know myself having as now i know myself having not as much course, having much as you, of course, having learned own body over time, learned my own body over time, reaching my forties and realising really, realising that's a really, really my brain really important and my brain doesn't work if i don't get fast summons and things like that, i kind i feel absolutely dead kind of i feel absolutely dead if i don't eat fast. so it's really fascinating what you're doing out, doing and bringing this out, which i think it's people which speaks i think it's people have misunderstanding which speaks i think it's people have that1isunderstanding which speaks i think it's people have that the1derstanding which speaks i think it's people have that the keystanding which speaks i think it's people have that the key sta diet, you things that the key to diet, you know, think it's about know, people think it's about that eating all the that it's eating meat all the time. protein, but it's not time. it's protein, but it's not really the emphasis is really it's the emphasis is supposed fat. yeah. supposed to be on fat. yeah. i mean, you're supposed to get the bulk your energy from fat bulk of your energy from fat because i mentioned before,

because like i mentioned before, with see with with this, you can see with sugars whole grains that we sugars and whole grains that we are recommended to eat. it goes up down, up down and not up and down, up and down and not down, is where sort down, but is where you sort craving. trigger craving. that's the trigger point. dopamine point. that's when your dopamine has and that's when has gone down and that's when you start going. and this can be like every 20 minutes. so if you're office or you're in the office or something, think something, you can't think because going, ooh, what because you're going, ooh, what picky mean, picky bit shall i have? i mean, i start my day, i have mct oil, which is a medium chain triglycerides it goes into triglycerides and it goes into your and shoots your your liver and shoots to your brain and your brain is instantly filled this instantly filled with this brilliant my brilliant ketone. and i start my day mixed into is that day with that mixed into is that denved day with that mixed into is that derived coconut right. yeah derived from coconut right. yeah it's it's very it's a really fast it's very short chains of carbon short short chains of carbon atoms . so unlike vegetable, it's atoms. so unlike vegetable, it's like about 48 carbon atoms, just about eight. and it shoot straight to brain, you straight up to your brain, you get a sort of a buzz and get like a sort of a buzz and you are not going to eat anything for couple of anything for a good couple of hours. you can focus. i mean, hours. so you can focus. i mean, it's really it's bizarre. people are saying, you know what on earth are you doing to your coffee or tipping oil into it? but i'm just like hacking into my chemistry. so so my brain chemistry. so much so i've a company called

i've got a company now called will i sell that will powders that i sell that because so behind because i'm so behind it, because i'm so behind it, because there's much because there's so much addictive super addictive eating and super coffee people take. but coffee that people take. but it's black coffee with lots of coconut oil and nutty coffee. you've got a podcast about all of this as well because i just want open up the question , want to open up the question, open dialogue of why. want to open up the question, open dialogue of why . why open up the dialogue of why. why have we got all this misinformation and, you know, all based rhetoric, all the plant based rhetoric, these teenagers getting these teenagers are getting sucked him sucked into it and they need him and need b12. they're not and they need b12. they're not going get from going to get it from a supplement at all. so how cure health my podcast and i'm health is my new podcast and i'm literally speaking to the experts the line , the experts on the front line, the professors are right the professors who are right at the front of this amazing industry . front of this amazing industry. i love upfront shamelessness of some of it. you know , pringles, some of it. you know, pringles, once you pop, you can't stop them . yeah, it's a massive them. yeah, it's a massive disclaimer , by the way. this is disclaimer, by the way. this is a loss of a job and that's the head industry. yeah. when you tell that was brilliant. thank you so much. and don't you rest tonight a bit. oh, cottontail. but talk this again but we'll talk about this again .thank but we'll talk about this again . thank you so much this evening. another break is upon us. after i'll be getting

us. after that, i'll be getting the on dutch farmer the latest on the dutch farmer protests they fight to protests as they fight to prevent industry from prevent their industry from being damaged being partly damaged by their own government. you in a own government. see you in a couple minutes .

hello again, welcome back to neil oliver live on this show we've been reporting on and keeping up with the protests by dutch farmers seeking to protect their industry from the depredations of their own government . the netherlands are government. the netherlands are known as the little country that feeds the world. second only to the united states of america when it comes to food exports . i when it comes to food exports. i think the fact that the hard to take in every time i read it and. yet farmers there are fighting tooth and nail to stop their government forcing through drastic reductions to the amount of farmland and the size of hands of livestock . joining me hands of livestock. joining me now for an update on the situation is ralph show hammer, lecturer at webster vienna private university. i love

there, ralph. thanks forjoining me . it's great to be with you me. it's great to be with you again , neal. yes, great stuff . i again, neal. yes, great stuff. i know this protest, this protest by the dutch farmers, it doesn't get international attention. i think it deserves . what is the think it deserves. what is the latest news? how is it how is that situation developed ? i that situation developed? i think there are two main points that we have to keep mind. one is if we look at the most recent polls, the farmers citizen movement, which is kind of the political arm of the dutch farmers, will do better than expected in the upcoming elections. so they have one seat at the moment. it's going to be go at the moment. it's going to be 9° up at the moment. it's going to be go up to 16 or 18 seats. but i think we also have to be critical in one respect. i as you mentioned, just it was you mentioned, just that it was not that much outside not covered that much outside media like i like gb news and others. and i think one problem that the dutch farmers have is i think they could and they should have their issue to have connected their issue to a broader one, which is that in the western world, we are increasingly at war with everything that makes modern life right. it's no

life possible. right. it's no farmers in the netherlands, it's cows in ireland, it's mining in great britain, it's nuclear power in germany. this is part of the bigger picture. we're kind of under the guise of the climate movement that the green movement pretty much everything that makes modern life possible is under attack . that makes modern life possible is under attack. but instead of trying to fight back as a unified kind of, we are unified front kind of, we are split up in kind of these these smaller battle groups that never unify to take on the broader ideological i believe ideological issue that i believe would have significant appeal all the outside of the all over the outside of the dutch areas. i think this would be something that people are very sensitive to all over the west. if we could find a way to frame it in exactly this kind of way. and anything being done to try and correct that that shortfall that you're describing , that lack of, you know, joined up action and joined up protest , are are the feelers out to create the international network? not yet. and the problem is that this was

something i think both you and i were afraid of. of course. what now was happening was that a lot in the mainstream media and media and competing political parties, but they were looking at the most fringe element of these movements. and of course , these movements. and of course, then they used them. they draw most of attention to these fringe elements. so you see, fringe elements. and so you see, they're all radicals. they're actually quote unquote bad people. they're morally bad people. they're morally bad people. do not have people. and if you do not have an effective way fight back , an effective way to fight back, at some middle of the at least for some middle of the road voters, that stinks and then they might sympathise with your issues. then in the your issues. but then in the voting booth, they say while they might be too radical after all. this is always the all. so this is always the uphill fight. all. so this is always the uphill fight . these new uphill fight. these new movements have to overcome. i mean, we saw georgina maloney like in italy , we see that like in italy, we see that politicians can do this right. if they do it right, they can actually be rewarded at the voting booth after they have beenin voting booth after they have been in power. so i think this is the uphill battle that these new movements which i would new movements to which i would count farming movement count the dutch farming movement and farmers and the citizens, farmers movement that they need to try to to. you know, i describe

to get to. you know, i describe to get to. you know, i describe to my introduction the netherlands is the little country that feeds the world. and presumably that is the way in which the dutch population see themselves as as, you know, as people who are who are farmers. that must be part of the national psyche. how are the how the general population how are the general population reacting to the government's endeavours to cut this all back? you know , to undo that identity you know, to undo that identity 7 you know, to undo that identity ? well, it's because it's the way it is framed, right? i feel that the government or those who want to take away those farms because they frame it a little bit better those on the bit better than those on the other because what they other side, because what they do and think of this is and i think part of this is because have been marinated because they have been marinated in this themselves, we must not forget the last 60 forget that over the last 60 years, over europe. right. years, all over europe. right. kind i think about the kind of. i mean, think about the last successful , know, big last successful, you know, big movies, whether was lord of movies, whether it was lord of the rings or avatar. right. there's always the story. how how or industry or or how are fish or industry or or farming or agriculture ? in farming or agriculture? in a sense, it's actually bad, right ? we are wrestling something from nature and things would be

so much better if just would so much better if we just would leave be. this is leave them be. and this is precisely what the empty dutch farmer they say. farmer movement as they say. well, those farmers, they pollutes the environment, they use fertiliser as us, they use machinery, they like the orcs in lord of the rings, right. and those who fight against are those who fight against them are like alien. and those those like the alien. and those those colossi holy figures. of colossi holy figures. and of course this not true. it course this is not true. it should exactly the opposite. should be exactly the opposite. as correctly pointed out, as you correctly pointed out, it's that it can't you it's a miracle that it can't you if size the netherlands if the size of the netherlands is the world's largest is of the world's largest agricultural producers, of course, has an effect on course, this has an effect on the environment just as mining has an effect on the environment . but these things have . but all of these things have an . but the question we an effect. but the question we have to ask, what is the alternative? i thought the alternative? i thought that the slogan used , no slogan that they used, no farmers, was one of the farmers, no food, was one of the most compelling ones is sure you can all these farmlands can give all these farmlands back to nature , but how exactly back to nature, but how exactly are you going to find something to eat on your plate? and i think argument was not made forcefully enough . julie, how do forcefully enough. julie, how do you react? you know , ralph you react? you know, ralph saying that there's a movement

almost to take away the stuff of everyday life. the farmers, the cars , all the nuclear power cars, all the nuclear power mining, all of these things going away. how yeah, i mean , going away. how yeah, i mean, what he said is so succinct. there it's that, you know, when you take away especially the national identity of somewhere so the farm is that the mine is here when we had the coal miners you know we've seen what happened when you take that national identity of work away from people, they lose everything. communities everything. whole communities are still recovering from that loss we've for loss that. we've had, for example, mining . the same example, with mining. the same is to happen perhaps in is going to happen perhaps in the hopefully not the netherlands, hopefully not with they're fighting with the way they're fighting back, but it's almost we're back, but it's almost like we're basically through the new basically going through the new technological way technological revolution our way and guise of climate and under the guise of climate change. so they're being told, change. so they're being told, change this and make it more environmentally friendly. you're destroying land . but destroying the land. but actually it's just more corporatism and taking away corporatism and it's taking away the national identity. i think of so many people around the world, especially in this case the farmers is interesting, isn't it? sure. as he says , you isn't it? sure. as he says, you know, that is what the

netherlands known for. their netherlands are known for. their farmers, producers food, farmers, the producers of food, and away from and that's being taken away from them, it seems . but it seems them, it seems. but it seems counterintuitive. i mean, i came late to this, but your correspondent, eva verde, broke the latin group . yes. has the latin group. yes. has brought this up on twitter time and again, but it was great interest. so i'm late to the debate , but it seems debate, but it seems counterintuitive and counterproductive . the counterproductive. the netherlands is one of the biggest producers of produce in the world to actually solve somehow it's penalties on it. yes, it seems stupid . ralph is yes, it seems stupid. ralph is there is there optimism as you describe the situation shifting in the netherlands , you know, in the netherlands, you know, with some proper traction in, you know, representing the general population of other grounds for hope? i mean , at the grounds for hope? i mean, at the moment, unfortunately, i have say no, all of europe and parts of the us and parts of the united kingdom, we are the grip of a common psychosis, which is

expressing itself primarily in. we want to turn against everything that makes civilised life possible and we are very bad. i say we because i assume we are on the same side of this and we are very bad in communicating this. so either you want to have a modern civilisation , but then you're civilisation, but then you're going these things going to need all these things that left hates. you need that the left hates. you need modern which modern agriculture, which we cannot go society where cannot go back to society where 98% of the population work as farmers. we agriculture farmers. we need agriculture that productive that only that is so productive that only 2% work as farmers so that the other 98% can become, i don't know, only finds account holders and influencers. but all these or green politicians for that matter . so if or green politicians for that matter. so if this is if this or green politicians for that matter . so if this is if this is matter. so if this is if this is what you want to have, right, then you need all these underpinnings as well. it is again, i cannot stress this enough. again, i cannot stress this enough . it's little bit like enough. it's a little bit like in in the time machine. we have to ella whelan to mourdock's right if you want to live like the eloi, you need all these quote unquote dark stuff like, you know , a steel industry, you know, a steel industry, a fertiliser industry, a farming industry. you two things. if we

don't have society, civilisation will break down. and this is, i think what all these movements what is the problem movement in germany whether it's the nuclear movement in the united kingdom the farmers movement in the dutch. is the argument they dutch. this is the argument they have are the have to make. they are the pillars civilisation . if you pillars of civilisation. if you undermine them, you undermine our civilisation and what that can lead to, you know, that's an up to anybody's own fantasy. but i think this is the argument they have to that that's they have to make that that's they have to make that that's the will end on, ralph. the no, it will end on, ralph. so much . the no, it will end on, ralph. so much. bringing so thank you so much. bringing us up to date. this is a preoccupation of this show here in gb views. so, ralph she'll hammer i'll be coming back to you in future to hear yet you in the future to hear yet more as as hopefully see more as we as we hopefully see a total of events in the farmer's favour . it's another total of events in the farmer's favour. it's another break which i'll be asking if women are having adverse gynaecological problems relating to the pfizer job. don't go away .

welcome back. welcome back to neil oliver live now much of the reporter on harmful side effects related to the products marketed as covid vaccines has concentrated on young men and heart conditions like myocarditis. but review of pfizer's own data makes clear that across the board in relation to multiple adverse effects, it has been women who have taken the brunt of the harms. joining me now is journalist sonia elijah , who has journalist sonia elijah, who has conducted in—depth research to understand the scale of the. sonia, thank you . thank you. sonia, thank you. thank you. such an important topic, an overlooked topic . what exactly overlooked topic. what exactly is it that you have found out from from reading ? yes. so from from reading? yes. so really, for the past two years, i've been going through data that really the regulators don't want the public to see. the government doesn't want the pubuc government doesn't want the public to see. and the pharmaceutical companies don't want the public to see. i've extensively gone through thousands of documents of the pfizer data dump that was

released via a court order because the fda wanted the pubuc because the fda wanted the public to wait till 2096. i've also analysed a recent safety update report that was released by the freedom of information information act , by the freedom of information information act, and it's really . the data that i found across the board. you've seen women three times more affected , so three times more affected, so three times more affected, so three times more of these cases were reported over women. so for every young man who's affected by myocarditis or similar , three by myocarditis or similar, three women are affected by other things. and the same thing. yes so, for example, anaphylaxis , so, for example, anaphylaxis, you're looking at eight times more affected by women. this was in the a report i analysed over a year ago. but this recent eu report you've got over it, you've got over 327,000 cases. a case is an individual male and over 1.1 million adverse events. so you've got average one individual suffering from at least 3 to 4 adverse events . a

least 3 to 4 adverse events. a third of the cases are were classified as serious and at least . 84% of those cases, there least. 84% of those cases, there was no history of co—morbidity. now, going back to the women, women, there was a section on menstrual disorders . and the so menstrual disorders. and the so the regulator, the european medicines agency, was responding to buy and take it, asking for an evaluation report because of the number of queries relating to menstrual disorders . the to menstrual disorders. the conclusion was , oh, it's because conclusion was, oh, it's because women are possibly more affected because of the pandemic. and it's all stress related. that was what they conclude . who did was what they conclude. who did the actual evaluation was in an appendix, which they didn't release , so i couldn't analyse release, so i couldn't analyse that. release, so i couldn't analyse that . but we know that the that. but we know that the british medical journal published a study where they had 30,000 reports of women with menstrual abnormalities after the vaccine, the covid 19 vaccine. the following year. later, in the journal called

vacunas 78,000 reports by women , 52% had suffered from menstrual abnormalities. so it's happening . data is real. why do happening. data is real. why do you think, given how many women are being affected in this way , are being affected in this way, this hasn't been reported at all. you know, there's been a certain amount here in gb news, especially with , you know, going especially with, you know, going to some lengths to talk about adverse effects like myocarditis . but all this relating to . but all of this relating to women and gynaecological problems and menstrual disorder , why is it not out there in the in the general conversation? it's really shocking that it has . i mean, literally, only recently the mhra updated the website. this is february. this is very new. what they said there is possible association with abnormalities and the covid 19 vaccines that pfizer and moderna's vaccine. so taken them so many months to just sort of formally kind maybe acknowledge will maybe this something going on here when we have so much observational data going on. and then also there was a paper done

published the end of last year where by a leading obstetrician in america you have astounding data. they analyse it, they compared the flu shot, which has been around for 25 years with the covid 19 vaccines. and you have the number count. so to hundred times more miscarriage , hundred times more miscarriage, menstrual disorders , there's a menstrual disorders, there's a huge increase in miscarriage rates. this is going seven fold. it's a shocking it's really shocking . i also want to put out shocking. i also want to put out that looking through the pfizer clinical trial data, no gino toxicity studies were ever done no reproductive toxicity studies were ever done. no carcinogenicity studies were ever done. and they weren't planning on doing them. and the reason they said that was because it's not deemed necessary. i mean, it's just so shocking. bear with me. joining me next, my next guest, dr. david. he's a senior clinical lecturer at the university of exeter school. hello doctor.

we've spoken before in relating subjects here. thank you for joining me . how do you react? joining me. how do you react? listening to these findings and these that journalist sonia elijah is quoting actually a big part of that is not a surprise when it comes to these menstrual irregularities. that is actually very common with any sort of inflammatory response. so we do expect these some degree of menstrual irregularities , any menstrual irregularities, any inflammatory things such as the vaccine actually has now been backed up by fully systematic randomised studies where i'd just like to interrupt doctor that. dr. student can i just, that. dr. student can ijust, can i just let sonia wants to ask a question that that paper that dr. james thorpe and actually dr. peter mccullough co—wrote , they compared the co—wrote, they compared the covid 19 vaccines with the flu shot. and so they looked 25 years of data in the past years. you've got the covid 19 coming

andifs you've got the covid 19 coming and it's astronomic the increase in adverse effects affecting women with menstrual disorders as miscarriages, stillbirth deaths. i mean, it's really shocking. so i do not believe that , oh, shocking. so i do not believe that, oh, it's just a side effect of any vaccine that's incorrect . but you just mention incorrect. but you just mention is the first is that any fragmentary thing we'll give you these changes to the menstrual cycle then there's dr. thoughts paper now as you rightly point out, dr. thoughts paper was looking at a new difference. so was looking at the difference in the number of problems with menstrual issues from the flu vaccine compared to the covid vaccine compared to the covid vaccine and actually a 200 fold increase is not a surprise when you consider who actually gets the vaccine . we don't give flu the vaccine. we don't give flu vaccines to people under the age of 50 in the uk and therefore spotting menstrual cycle, menstrual issues, spotting issues with it, with miscarriages in people over the age of 50, it just not going to

be reported because we don't get menstrual issues in people over age 50. we don't get miscarriages. so rarely get encouraging people over 50 just because they're not getting it. we they give you the covid vaccine to a whole range of people right down to 18. and in some places we give it to children. now you will see problems in emotional cycles in a population that is actually menstrual eating. and that's the big issue with dr. falk's paper . i don't want to make the menstrual cycle all being deranged and people who have the vaccine on average, it's about three days changes on average. if you get you will have a slightly heavy period there. the time afterwards , david, that time afterwards, david, that david if i can just because i can just button if i can just put in there why when this when the disease we're talking about has it poses very little threat to the to the women that we're talking about why in terms of a

risk benefit judgement continue to offer that vaccination to women when there are at least these doubts raised by these figures ? why would you would you figures? why would you would you continue to recommend this vaccine to women to pregnant women and the rest be seen seeing the shadow of doubt that must least be raised by this kind of research . so the latest kind of research. so the latest range of boosters for the vaccines wasn't open to people under the age of 50, was only open to people in particularly high risk groups where the risk was substantially greater than the benefit that this is. amongst many of the reasons why the latest range of boosters wasn't offered to people the age of 50. we are still in this process that we are learning both about the virus , about the both about the virus, about the treatments for it , and at the treatments for it, and at the moment , we treatments for it, and at the moment, we are in a position where the risk to benefit and is not in favour of boosting people under the age of 50. and that's

why they weren't invited. when it comes to pregnant women, how are the pregnancy? is itself its own risk factor and that's a very detailed conversation that you need to have with the obstetrician when it comes to whether you'd like to be vaccinated or not and what your individual, dr. david i just individual, dr. david ijust want to let sonia keen to interject. i just want to talk a bit pregnancy outcomes. so there was a study by a pinellas atoll and where it was so women who were pregnant actually had favoured better when they contracted covid 19, they were not at higher risk. so any claim that women who are are at high risk of morbidity with covid 19, that's an unsubstantiated claim . i looked through the clinical trial documents of pfizer, a post authorising patient data. they were 270 pregnant pregnancy cases. they were 270 pregnant pregnancy cases . and 238 were unknown cases. and 238 were unknown known. so out of the 32 that were known, 23 came resulted in

miscarriage. that's data and people do not know dr. strain is it good is it good enough really to be seeing that you're aware that we are aware of this kind of adverse effect and just to move on from it and say, oh, well, we're not doing that anymore, is that good enough when you're up against this kind of , you know, 200 fold increase of, you know, 200 fold increase in this kind of effect in certain circumstances to just move on and say, well, you know, it's just been unfortunate. what you might have expected. so the first thing is that 200 fold figure is a complete misrepresent of the figure, as they say. it's like saying that there's an infinite three fold increase in menstrual problems increase in menstrual problems in women compared to men . and in women compared to men. and when we were comparing flu vaccines in people over the age of 50 and covid vaccines in people who are still menstrual sitting there was bound to be a massive numerical difference. we that has to consider the different and vipit were in at

the time when we first started giving the vaccine. we were still in a position where people were dying on a daily basis. so dr. i'm simply i'm going to run it. i'm going to run out of time here. i'm going run out of time here. i'm going run out of time here. so thank you once again for your for your contribution to this intense debate. so, elijah, thank you so much. we're going go another break. going to go into another break. it's 7:00. is it's coming up to 7:00. this is neil over life on tv, online neil all over life on tv, online and on dab plus

here we are together again. welcome back to neil oliver live on gb news tv and on radio today on gb news tv and on radio today on the second out of the show in the wake of the shootings at epsom college, a criminologist will be here to talk about changes we could make to gun laws try prevent such laws to try and prevent such tragedies . laws to try and prevent such tragedies. i'll be learning

about raw sewage, which is flowing into two popular lakes in yorkshire and is feared. we'll have a terrible impact on local wildlife water supplies. and this week's great britain is a woman who has managed to pull her life back from the brink of disaster and is now a confidence coach and property developer. i'll be hearing what is expected to be one of the biggest compensation claims in uk legal history. i as thousands of businesses seek recompense for being overcharged on transaction fees plus plenty more from my brilliant panel, fees plus plenty more from my brilliant panel , julie cooke and brilliant panel, julie cooke and lieutenant colonel stuart crawford. but first, an update on the latest news from ray addison . thanks, neil. here's addison. thanks, neil. here's the latest . ireland's t shock. the latest. ireland's t shock. leo varadkar says a deal on the northern ireland protocol could be made in the next few days. but there's still a gap in negotiations . it comes as the negotiations. it comes as the prime minister faces criticism after proposing a meeting between king charles and the

president of the european commission. ursula von der leyen was due to continue talks with rishi sunak meeting the king. but a trip has now been cancelled. labour says it would have had constitutional implications in most members of the 620 implications in most members of the g20 have condemned to the war in ukraine except for china and russia, who refused to sign and russia, who refused to sign a joint declaration. it comes as ukraine's president says he plans to meet china's zijin ping after beijing set out a peace plan for the two countries. volodymyr zelenskyy says it would be beneficial for security around the world. russian citizens living in britain have staged a protest outside of the russian embassy in london against their country's invasion of ukraine. it comes a day after the one year anniversary of the start of president putin's incursion of the country . the incursion of the country. the widow of poisoned dissident alexander litvinenko, who was there, said she was proud of the protesters and very proud to see this big crowd of russian people. a lot of young people

maybe never went to this kind of protest, but i saw their faces and they'd been all very loud to see how they're against the war, how they support ukraine, how they hate putin. well, hundreds have gathered in county tyrone to demand an end to violence in northern ireland after the attempted murder of off duty policeman. detective chief inspector john caldwell was shot outside a sports centre on wednesday. he remains in critical condition. five suspects have been arrested. detectives say the incident is being treated as terror related and could be connected to the new ira the death toll from the earthquakes that hit turkey and syria has now surpassed 50,000. the united nations estimates that 1.5 million people have been made homeless , with 500,000 been made homeless, with 500,000 new homes required . president new homes required. president erdogan is pledging to rebuild within the year , but experts are within the year, but experts are warning not put safety before

speed and a 3.7 magnitude earthquake was felt in south wales last night. earthquake was felt in south wales last night . the british wales last night. the british geological survey says it hit britain more crickhowell just before midnight with a tremor felt as far away as cardiff. residents on social media described being woken up to their whole house shaking. we're on tv online and on tv plus radio. this is the people's channel gb news. time now for. neil oliver. thanks ray, and welcome back. the shotgun deaths of three people at an english private school earlier this month have prompted renewed calls for changes to laws controlling gun ownership . epsom college head ownership. epsom college head emma patterson, her husband george , seven year old daughter george, seven year old daughter lettie were found dead in the

grounds of the school earlier this month. last week an inquest found catastrophic failings led to the shotgun deaths of five people in plymouth on the 12th of august 2021, when 22 year old jake davison killed four people before turning his weapon on himself . my next guest, peter himself. my next guest, peter squires, a professor of criminology at brighton university, joins me now to discuss whether the time has come to change the laws governing gun ownership. good evening. thank you forjoining evening. thank you for joining me. good evening to you. yes tell me tell me, first of all, what is the scale of gun deaths , this sort in this country ? you , this sort in this country? you mean of people with firearm licences killing , dealing with licences killing, dealing with shotguns in the main? yeah almost entirely. shotguns it's the last real data that was collected by the home office

referred to 14% of gun homicide kids being inflicted by people with a licence shotguns. since then, they've not kept the data. and i, i, i've argued that this is an oversight, but nevertheless . so the gun control nevertheless. so the gun control network has kept its own log of media reports of gun deaths. and we there are there are 30 gun deaths a year. and around five of those in any given year will be people who have a gun licence and therefore hold the weapon in trust, keep it in their own home where it's vulnerable , i would where it's vulnerable, i would say. and they have generally killed their partners sometime times their partners and their children sometimes their partners and their children and themselves family relation situations. so so. so. yes, there are there are a number of them. not a lot, but it's a

process problem . and what is the process problem. and what is the legislature covered in gun ownership here? i suppose what i'm really asking is how easy is it to obtain a licence to hold a shotgun or multiple shotguns in the home if you want if you want a shotgun , it's slightly easier a shotgun, it's slightly easier to get a shotgun than a rifle. and that's an issue i think we need to address because they're both lethal firearms . but you both lethal firearms. but you have to suggest why you need one. and it's if you can suggest why you need one as a pest control or a gamekeeper farmer or a sports shooter. and that's generally where the major problem is. line it's up to the it's up to the police to argue why you don't merit a shotgun licence. you say you want one. you come up with evidence you've you have your referee says you can go through the licencing process and that's meant to weed out people who really have no

claim, no legitimate claim to own a weapon . is stuart is this own a weapon. is stuart is this something that you think that there is a need to tighten up or to change legislation ? i mean to change legislation? i mean i mean, i'm very much in in favour of, you know, the you know, those who are out there who are legitimately warning, you know, shotguns and the rest or for hunting for, know , for sport hunting for, you know, for sport and rest of it. but and all of the rest of it. but doesit and all of the rest of it. but does it sound to like we're does it sound to you like we're in situation where there's in a situation where there's a need change? i think need for change? well, i think there's always a need to review processes . and the scale of the processes. and the scale of the problem, obviously, in the uk is nothing approaching what goes on in usa . a lot of my friends in the usa. a lot of my friends have got shotgun licences , have got shotgun licences, they've all gone through the due process and been granted the licence . i don't know many licence. i don't know many people who have rifles . i know people who have rifles. i know one or two. one of the things that struck me was that the cost of actually getting a shotgun licence and a life rifle lessens both between 80 and £85. but the cost of doing the clearance

procedure was of profiling, if you like, is somewhere in the region of you like, is somewhere in the region 0 f £500. so it's not the region of £500. so it's not the licencing thing is not paying his way. and may suggest that it's too easy. get one. i'm no stranger to guns. i've shot guns dunng stranger to guns. i've shot guns during my military career, always in a controlled environment and always been very careful about the rules and regulations and how to handle them without endangering people. i think in scotland without being too scottish exceptionalist about it, we've got a slightly different perception of dunblane perception because of dunblane and the fact that air rifles are also under firearms legislation. and i had an air rifle for pest control when i lived up the hills and when i moved away, i had to what i sensibly handed in, i had no further use for it. yeah. peter. peter peter, to come back to you. what changes. might you would you see legitimately be considered you know as a seeing here that there are you know there are reasons legitimate absolutely legitimate reasons hold shotguns. so what changes would you suggest?

absolutely. i'm not i'm not anti—gun. i think we need to regularise processes for licencing them. i think the bottom line it comes down to the fact that police forces have had to run licencing on shoestring for many years. the licence fee has not changed for years . it's has not changed for years. it's 80, £80 for a five year licence. that' s £16 a year. now and as that's £16 a year. now and as you'll other guests commented that in no way covers the of security and checks and clearances that are necessary to find to assess if someone is suitable to have a gun and enhanced those checks . there is enhanced those checks. there is a much more built in check with medical authorities , other medical authorities, other people to provide references . people to provide references. and i would go further that it ought to be something that is simply done on a five yearly bafis simply done on a five yearly basis as a as if it were a mere

clerical exercise by the police. but there ought to be more proactive , unannounced visits proactive, unannounced visits dip checks , perhaps even dip checks, perhaps even monitoring of some people's social media to make sure not making the kinds of threats that send an alarm bell ringing that this person is going off the rails and that needs to be constant. the monitor has to be concerned. therefore, it's got to be more expensive. but that's the way we weed out people who are perhaps developing dementia. this there's a real problem in america. the gun owner getting older and many of them becoming becoming confused and. we need to mend , maintain a check on to mend, maintain a check on mental health if they've got a firearm in the home. are there are the reasons for thinking that you know if we are we're in these situations it's up you know a man killing his partner sometimes children and then himself you know these tragedies

we you know we read about not all that regularly they wouldn't if the shotgun hadn't been available to that individual would they not just find another way to commit the crime is the argument that if that if that possibility that that weapon wasn't in the equation that the deaths would not occur. i think you rightly raised the question that the often the killing is a comes at the end of a lengthy of domestic violence. and by the way, that should be another that is monitored to ensure that the person is of is of sound mind and not committing other violent offences against their family members. but but you can't do that on an £88 fight, a licence shoestring . and it's my argument shoestring. and it's my argument and i i've been making this point for ten years that the kind of security checks, that the police have to make they will always screw open, scrape on and run it on a shoestring if

those if that licencing process is not fully funded, it costs the police to do it. if they the resources to do it, my argument is they would do it better . they is they would do it better. they would be better trained. there would be better trained. there would be better trained. there would be a better national protocol and they would be better for enforcing this legislation . we've we've heard legislation. we've we've heard many times about austerity, policing and frankly , the left policing and frankly, the left is getting frayed and cases are slipping through evidence. it's not a shotgun is not. and i am absolutely gobsmacked at the that people can't these licences . well if they can't afford these licences i don't think they can afford the shotgun and they can afford the shotgun and the ammunition it it's a it's a pubuc the ammunition it it's a it's a public safety priority and we take it more seriously evidently peter, it's a very difficult balance that has to be struck between personal empathy, legitimate ownership and public

safety, a very difficult judgement call. peter squires, professor of criminology at brighton university. thank you for your input this evening . for your input this evening. okay. thank you. good. thank you. moving on. stomach totalling footage of raw sewage flowing from a water pipe into two lakes in yorkshire has prompted campaigners to the vile stench , the impact on wildlife , stench, the impact on wildlife, solid waste, soil, old literal wet wipes and used sanitary products have been flowing into marshland . freeman's cut and marshland. freeman's cut and breakfast lake used for water skiing and including by disabled children in brighouse in west yorkshire for more than two months, joining me to talk about the horror of it all and what should be done is mark from beneath british water. good evening, mark. good evening . evening, mark. good evening. this is dreadful i've seen the i've seen the images. i've seen the pictures going on basically

where does the sewage coming from . the sewage it appears to from. the sewage it appears to be mis connected pipe . i mean be mis connected pipe. i mean seri more or less coming direct from the toilet . and this been from the toilet. and this been going on since the of december and. we're now obviously at the end of february. the angling club got in touch with me obviously outside to campaign for clean rivers and asked if i would try and help. so two weeks ago i started putting the video footage out there and got to admit, i was up absolutely appalled at what's going on and the smell smell is absolutely horrendous. and in some areas it's ankle deep and waste . now it's ankle deep and waste. now it's ankle deep and waste. now it's been, as you see, it's been i think it's been going for on nearly ten weeks. yes. and you see, it's something as basic as as a mis connected pipe . why why as a mis connected pipe. why why isn't it being dealt with ? i

isn't it being dealt with? i think because it's out of sight , out of mind . and yet again, , out of mind. and yet again, the fresh water is suffering. if not, was coming out onto a high street that would have been sorted within two weeks. but because you obviously don't know about it . it's because you obviously don't know about it. it's just ignored. and i think between the likes of the council, yorkshire water and the environment, council, yorkshire water and the environment , they need to get environment, they need to get their act together and get this sorted because it is appalling. bear with me. while i just talked to a guest in the studio, julie, that i mean, that's your worst nightmare, isn't it? sort of. it's a it's a place where people go for recreation , people go for recreation, whatever, angling , all the rest whatever, angling, all the rest of it. and it's raw human sewage. it's disgusting . i mean, sewage. it's disgusting. i mean, i was reading about this on the way in today and what our guest is just said is completely right. if this is happening outside of, i don't know, a high street shop would have been sorted, would have you sorted, would have had, you know, do not know, cones around it. do not come but because it's in come near. but because it's in our and killing our our waterways and killing our wildlife, you did see wildlife, frankly if you did see it, it's there. for the it, it's not there. but for the people walk around there

people who walk around there very, much is. but i was also reading on my way that the reading on my way in that the water companies have had 2800 written in 2022 about written warnings in 2022 about problems and all. sewage is apparently 80% over over capacity of also. so i mean, there's a lot more to it. i think, than just the bass pipe in this case. but i think, yeah, it's indicative of what we need to do is a lot bigger than that. yeah. yeah. mark if you're still with there is this just with me there is this just another of the profits that another case of the profits that water companies able to make means that they are prepared to take the occasional hit or the or the on whatever regularity of this kind of disguise . cease to this kind of disguise. cease to be quite honest. well, what the companies are concerned, nothing surprises . me, because obviously surprises. me, because obviously i do a lot of campaigning. and i do wonder to what film it in rivers every dive i do, i encounter sewage, pollution and it's appalling. so yeah, where water companies are concerned , water companies are concerned, nothing surprises me . this nothing surprises me. this should not have gone on as long as it has done the environment

agency tested the water and that came back at seven parts per million . now i'll stand , but i'm million. now i'll stand, but i'm sure not point to five parts per million. anything over that can affect obviously health of the fish and obviously got the water skiing club that are obviously using the water and i think they've actually temporarily closed lake because they obviously don't want to go in it you . yeah i was going to say are you. yeah i was going to say are people are aware you know are people are aware you know are people obviously you're showing you've footage in a you've taken footage in a specific area but in terms of the of the entirety the of the lake, you know, you could be blissfully unaware that this was going on. i presume. are people actively warned not to go actively being warned not to go near the. yes, they are. and some of the anglers have actually started to become ill over the last few weeks. so the angung over the last few weeks. so the angling club now is going round all its members and asking them obviously if they've got any symptoms. and obviously the club uses the lake for the disabled children, you know, shouldn't

have to pull where they say it's 20, 22, not 1820. so what is the wider scale? you know, obviously involved in this, but the pollution that are in our waterways? what can you give us a of the scale across a sense of the scale across england england and wales, england and england and wales, how often this is happening somewhere daily on a river there is sewage entering and it's as simple as that. every time i go in the river, encounter sewage pollution that could be via sewage later, which obviously can involve some towels and everything that's literally flushed down the toilet . flushed down the toilet. september 2000 the overall health of rivers in england and wales was round about 92. you move forward 22 years and we're now down to 14. you know when we should . striving to move should. striving to move forwards , we're going backwards. forwards, we're going backwards. a massive scale and it's a is appalling. yet we'll preach to other countries about how we should what they should do . yeah should what they should do. yeah we actually in our own backyard like an open sewer it's still a

lesson to testimony like this you know and we're being bombarded all the time by politicians the rest total about saving the planet which you you know, save the puppies. he's going to argue with you if you see you want to save the planet. but and yet we were invited to tunnel blind eye to deal light pollution into the waterways . pollution into the waterways. were fooling around. yes, we are indeed. and one wonders and your may know whether there's any between this and the privatised of water services in england and wales , not in scotland. we're wales, not in scotland. we're still publicly owned but also and i don't know which particular water companies we're talking about here, but they they are profit making organisations with with two executives in some cases earn vast salaries and there must be a penalty in their contracts which eea for reasons me doesn't seem to be able to enforce . seem to be able to enforce. mark, i think i'm right. you'd

be listening to that from stuart. i think right in saying though that the profits that are from the from the ownership and the running of this part of the infrastructure means that you can kind of fines can write off the kind of fines that apply for the training and so, you know, is there any is there any is there any active campaigning or any likelihood of, you know, a couple of notes being stuck on the end of the likely penalties for this kind of infringement. so there actually becomes in the interests these companies to interests of these companies to prevent make sure this prevent and to make sure this doesn't needs be a doesn't happen, it needs be a few more. not to be quite honest because the money they are making is life changing amounts . you know, in the privatisation scheme has literally failed for two main reasons. governments to put it sick and corporate greed , and that's what it boils to . , and that's what it boils to. down you know, we shouldn't be like this. it shouldn't be like this. government stupidity and corporate greed . you're corporate greed. you're absolutely borrow absolutely right, mark. borrow from british waters. from beneath british waters. thank for bringing to our thank you for bringing to our attention this evening . attention to this this evening. thank . andrew pitts called a

thank you. andrew pitts called a bill assistant director way of a statement said we are working on an ongoing investigation into the reported what of course pollution in blackouts cases that relate to a watercourse . we that relate to a watercourse. we work with the environment agency and other organisations such as yorkshire water to ensure we protect public health and the wider environment in i'm sure you will feel the better for that. you will feel the better for that . after the break i'll be that. after the break i'll be meeting this week in great britain and nathalie bailey will tell us about how turned her life around from the brink of despair to become a successful conference and businesswoman .

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having me. it's a pleasure. it sounds you wouldn't mind me saying you were leading a bit of a self destructive lifestyle for a self destructive lifestyle for a while. there very. in that world, it looks like you're living your best life and you surround yourself, with the people that seem to be having the best life . but actually what the best life. but actually what i was doing was that depression and loneliness because i moved to magaluf on my own and literally just quit my job, got a plane and was like, i'm going to do this for three months and where are we. i still live in majorca now. but being around the wrong people . and it was the wrong people. and it was very, very difficult . like, you very, very difficult. like, you know, when you have those people that just focus, they want something for me. and you're able to do that. so they went you had to adopt a certain character and a certain behaviour. yes. to keep the whole thing going. the whole thing going and masking whatever is masking with fake confidence . whereas now i've been to really take into myself and

understand how to change that and have a real level of confidence prompted the change. you know, what did you did you literally wake up one morning and think , i've had enough of and think, i've had enough of this kind of affair ? a few of my this kind of affair? a few of my friends were arrested and that was a huge wake up call to me because thought i can't go down this route anymore and have make that call to my mum because i love my mum. i'm a dad. and what did you do? i mean, obviously you were in the midst of a lifestyle that was that was self—destructive. so how did how did you go about change, turning it into something positive? i had think, was the had to think, what was the complete of what was complete opposite of what i was doing on to chat with my nan doing on how to chat with my nan and we went and trained as a personal trainer. so when i did that. i did that, i did the exercise referral diploma as well as the life coaching course go with it. because i thought if i can use this for good , then

i can use this for good, then i can really help . and ultimately can really help. and ultimately helping myself. when you look after your physical health, you look your mental health and you feel so much better . and i feel so much better. and i realised that that's what i needed do and i'm interested in the fact that it was your mum and your nine that were instrumental , it was family, you instrumental, it was family, you had me, whatever else was going on, you still had that support network from your family to what you were in. yeah really close with my mom and. my dad's like saturdays is normally with dad football . thus that's what we do football. thus that's what we do together. and like with my mum because we now work together as well. we a very close bond. so when my nan passed away, we realised that we needed to do something to build a legacy together. i'm to be able to give back because i didn't want to get to the end of my life and think i wish i'd done this, i wish i'd done that. so family and community is very, very important. and tell me about the nature what it is that you're

nature of what it is that you're doing. because a doing. because it's a combination take this combination of take it this confidence yeah. and confidence coaching. yeah. and also the property development. how's we how's that working out. when we got we've got into property, we've we've just completed a 30 unit conversion , so we took conversion, so we took a decommissioned care . is this in decommissioned care. is this in majorca? this is in. oh, this is in england. yes. so we do the property stuff in england, but i realised from property trainings and talking entrepreneurs that there was something missing and there was something missing and the thing that people held back with , things like social media, with, things like social media, the confidence to call agents , the confidence to call agents, not having enough belief in themselves that they could go and do something. which made me tap back into what i learned when i was a patron and coaching people. then to create what we do now , which is health, wealth do now, which is health, wealth and happiness. because you need all of those things, i call it the triangle of life and because it helps you define yourself rather than getting lost in the bermuda triangle. it's always it's quite simple . and at the it's quite simple. and at the

end of the day, it's about hopefully getting support from family and simple things like like confidence and, just that determination to turn things . determination to turn things. that's where the when it doesn't from, when it comes from, i mean, it comes from, you know, if you don't mind me flattering you, it comes from strength of character and that is something that's inculcated in you that's been inculcated in you through your family and your experiences and the choice that you've made, not to go down that path anymore . it's a very path anymore. it's a very difficult thing do if you're difficult thing to do if you're if the way you've been if that's the way you've been for several years. but i think it's i mean, it's a fantastic story and i think it's a huge example to other people who, look, how is it look, it can be done. how is it working with your mum? because that's not been and that's not going ideal for just going to be ideal forjust everyone. it took everyone. i don't think it took a for us to work a little while for us to work out who needs do what and out who needs to do what and then have family time. then also have family time. that's not business time because otherwise you do just get embroiled in in stuff and we snap. embroiled in in stuff and we snap . we would snap at each snap. we would snap at each other, but we've got a really good relationship. now where it does work and part of that is

being able to lean on each other for support because ultimately the people you surround yourself with make all of the difference . so that's what community to me now is so important. and tell me about the confidence coaching. how do people how do people come to you? how do you make contact with those who need that? and so i podcast which is called i have a podcast which is called confidence, mastery was confidence, mastery and it was three old week. so of three years old this week. so of 50 episodes and i actually had charlie sansom on it. he says hello by the way. alright yeah, i mean so through that, through of social media i do public speaking so travel, travelling the country and just by basically putting myself out there and demonstrating the lifestyle that i teach people. it's a massive turnaround. i mean really, you know, when you talk what you were, you know, you didn't go into much detail but a self destructive . yeah and but a self destructive. yeah and no are in a position where no you are in a position where you're in property development and you're helping other people to lives around as to turn their lives around as

well. a massive to you. well. it's a massive to you. thank so in like in those thank you so in like in those moments it's like being around the wrong people and living that kind of lifestyle. it it did hurt because you're not in a place where you can get the help that you need because it's a constant circle . so having that constant circle. so having that catalyst for change and being able to do better and because i've been there and been through and have been depressed that have been lonely , and if you have been lonely, and if you think about the last three years as well, we've all been pulled away from each other and if you are lonely or depressed , then are lonely or depressed, then you know you need help . ask for you know you need help. ask for it. yes because if you don't ask, you never get, take that first step. well, then that ability . first step. well, then that ability. thank you so much for coming in. thank you for me. you've brightened up the evening and you're definitely a great britain. so thank much. britain. so thank you so much. you keep doing what i you very much. keep doing what i will another break here are will do. another break here are after which i'll be learning

about it what's about what it is. what's expected one the expected to be one of the biggest compensation claims in uk history. thousands uk legal history. a thousands of businesses recompense for businesses seek recompense for being on transaction being overcharged on transaction .seen being overcharged on transaction . seen couple of minutes .

welcome back to neat little of a life one of the biggest compensation claims in uk legal history has been launched on behalf of hundreds of british businesses having been allegedly overcharged . mastercard and visa overcharged. mastercard and visa card transact machines, lawyers acting for the businesses that will seek to recoup billions of billions of pounds worth of fees. joining me now , talk us fees. joining me now, talk us through the complexities it all is lawyer jeremy robinson through the complexities it all is lawyerjeremy robinson . is lawyer jeremy robinson. jeremy, thank you for coming in. great to be here, neal. in relatively simple terms, what has happened here? well, the problem is actually at its core , quite simple. businesses and down the country have been paying down the country have been paying too much to their banks in charges . just for the right

in charges. just for the right to accept payment by debit or credit . and this is all because credit. and this is all because mastercard and visa have a rule that requires the banks to charge each other fees for accepting these . and the banks accepting these. and the banks just pass it onto the businesses and the music stops there. and it's completely and even though percentage amounts added to each transaction are actually really, really , we're talking 0.2, 0.3% really, we're talking 0.2, 0.3% here. it adds up very, very quickly. so even if you take, for example a relatively small canvey indian store, mid—sized store that might have a turnover, let's say, of store that might have a turnover, let's say, 0 f £3 turnover, let's say, of £3 million a year on, an annual basis, we've calculated, assuming everybody is paying by card , that's probably seven and card, that's probably seven and a half thousand pounds of unnecessary access . now, were unnecessary access. now, were able to bring our case from 60 years back. so six years of those fees, that's £45,000 for just that one local for that one

mid—sized store. also talking hundreds of thousands when you see unnecessary at what point does unnecessarily unlawful i mean has a crime been committed here by the by making these unnecessary charges? well, it's not exactly a crime. what we're talking about here is anti—competitive behaviour. so anti —competitive behaviour. so in anti—competitive behaviour. so in a normal, competitive world, banks would decide between themselves . they would decide themselves. they would decide each for themselves and what fees they would charge to businesses for having their business. but what we've got here is that most of the bank charges, which businesses pay every month , are set from every month, are set from elsewhere . so not by a elsewhere. so not by a competitive process , the banks, competitive process, the banks, but by virtue of their membership of the mastercard and visa schemes and. that's anti—competitive, that the banks themselves should individually decide their own conduct, but they this rule. well, it sounds like a kind of knowing negligence . the banks understand

negligence. the banks understand this because it's in the it's in their interests to recoup this kind of profit per transaction under. kind of profit per transaction under . the fact that the little under. the fact that the little business that's just accepting payment doesn't know there's a kind of knowing. yeah the idea to get to silly to realise this is happening so we'll just let them pick up the tab. well i think you're right, i think most businesses are probably unaware that actually happening that this is actually happening , whether be your local , whether it be your local barber , your local 7—eleven barber, your local 7—eleven corner shop, they have their charges for having their card machines and that's they know so that having the pockets . yes. in that having the pockets. yes. in a is big number. you know, a way is big number. you know, you talk about when you used the example , a single shop, what is example, a single shop, what is the big that has been on necessarily charged to hundreds thousands of businesses. it's a very, very big we are talking well into the billions as the total size the claim and we could be talking seven and a half 10 billion plus interest for the period of the claim. so it's a truly massive claim and an will. will it work ? i mean,

an will. will it work? i mean, will all of these companies get back every sue of unnecessary charge that was that was levelled against them? well the way in which we're doing it, we're bringing this a class action as a funded class action, what is what's what is a funded class? so what's we have an investor called bench walk advisors. they have invested in our claim. and what that means is that the vast majority of businesses and if we win the vast majority businesses will be allocated a sum from a part and they will get 100% of that sum back. you asked me whether whether or not we will win . we whether or not we will win. we are very confident we're going to win. and the reason we're confident is there have been a number of cases against mastercard and visa that have been european been taken at the european commission level and, have been taken courts in the uk taken in the courts in the uk and in the courts in the uk. that's on behalf of the very, very large supermarkets which ultimately settlements ultimately led to settlements high value settlements and we are adopting exactly the same principles exactly the same

economic theory , theory behind economic theory, theory behind this. and we are applying it to the entire economy because it's not good enough , because only not good enough, because only the very biggest companies , the the very biggest companies, the very deepest pockets , have the very deepest pockets, have the ability to pursue the corporate giants like this . julie, you giants like this. julie, you assess to me it's , it's no assess to me it's, it's no wonder the banks want everyone to make transactions with plastic cards. and then the next iteration of that is going to be, you know, central bank digital currencies because . once digital currencies because. once we know when all of that is taken away, of sight. so we taken away, out of sight. so we are invested in this for the sake of convenience to not know what's happening this is what you get. yeah, exactly. it's a point too of a pain here and then. but no wonder these the banks want this kind of transaction going on because they can recoup billions . yeah. they can recoup billions. yeah. i mean, i think it's two things. it's one that we have become much more of a cashless society, especially since covid, where we've use our cards we've all had to use our cards more. this must have gotten more. so this must have gotten huge during that period, but also a lot of, as you say,

businesses that these businesses don't know that these little and there little pennies here and there will massively. and will add up massively. and it's really you're really interesting that you're also smaller . really interesting that you're also smaller. i also looking at these smaller. i think that's great because you're post office person you're little post office person or convenience owner who or your convenience owner who that's seven or £8,000 perhaps a year or more is quite life changing to them. so i think it's putting that we're not just talking the businesses, talking the big businesses, we're the smaller we're looking at the smaller people wonder they don't people too. no wonder they don't want as well as want us using cash as well as what because what i would because a straightforward transaction straightforward cash transaction , none this is even possible , none of this is even possible i mean the banks would rather we weren't using cash. well, of course , are are other course, are there are other complexities around use of complexities around the use of cash versus the use of cards. and obviously, case is not about encouraging use one of encouraging to use one form of payment case is that the payment or our case is that the businesses are accepting the cards. the cards are a fact and the fees that they have to pay to their banks because of mastercard and visa conduct are too and we want to get too high. and we want to get that back. if this if your that back. so if this if your case is successful, will the rules be changed? will the system we would system be corrected? we would like our case to be part of a broader campaign by which one

day we hope these fees are abolished entirely. we have spoken some officials in government about this. this is what like to see. but we don't have control over the legislation. we are not there drafting the legislation. what we can try is put some we can try and do is put some pounds back in the pockets of these businesses and so they can get something after the get something back after the really time on the really difficult time on the high street amazing it billions and of pounds hanging and billions of pounds hanging in . exactly. jeremy in the balance. exactly. jeremy robinson lawyer, thank you very much. thank you very much. i want update in course want an update in due course coming to another break. and as we near the film industry's big night of the year, we'll be learning academy learning about how the academy awards to great awards are going to great lengths avoid a repeat lengths to avoid a repeat of last year's .

welcome back . we're on the welcome back. we're on the homestretch now . one of the homestretch now. one of the biggest show business stories of last year came at the oscars when hollywood megastar smith

made headlines around the globe by slapping his fellow actor chris rock . across the face in chris rock. across the face in front , an chris rock. across the face in front, an audience of millions . front, an audience of millions. as the footage hit the headlines around the world, it seems the bossis around the world, it seems the boss is over. the academy awards were already thinking about how they could avoid a recurrence of such scenes . joining me now to such scenes. joining me now to tell me what they came up with, i'm delighted to welcome the show reporter and show business reporter and author aspen life from author nelson aspen life from new york. nelson good evening . new york. nelson good evening. good evening. thanks for having me. great to have you on show. this was this quite the thing? there was there's never anything quite like what we witnessed last year at the oscars unique . last year at the oscars unique. that's right. it was these slaps seen and heard around world and arguably the most moment of that often interminable broadcast that goes on for so many hours. but it was bad. it was really bad. and it damaged will's career. he's been banned from academy events for a decade , and

academy events for a decade, and no one was more surprised by it except for maybe chris rock. then the academy executives themselves . so they've decided themselves. so they've decided to take action . and the ceo, to take action. and the ceo, bill kramer , has announced that bill kramer, has announced that they have formed a crisis team and an actual crisis team will be on hand , probably up in the be on hand, probably up in the broadcast booth in few of them backstage as well , in case backstage as well, in case anything goes off the rails. now, what's interesting about this so—called crisis team ? we this so—called crisis team? we love live television . why we do love live television. why we do it right. but if something something as violent as an assault on a on a comedic is not good but this crisis team was actually put into place shortly after the nominated lions were announced this year. you might recall the name andrea riseborough. she's up for best leading actress for her film to , leslie. people had never heard of her. they didn't know the film . and they blamed an film. and they blamed an a—lister campaign in to try and get her nomination . viola davis

get her nomination. viola davis was snubbed as a result of this. a lot of people thought she would get a nomination. so crisis team was formed then to investigate the nomination process. they let the nomination stay, but they also let the crisis team stay and this is how they're going to use them, not just are they not just milking it in that, you know, there's no such thing as bad publicity sense because surely any any seeing what harpo said to will smith in the aftermath of what he did , the last thing that they he did, the last thing that they would contemplate doing was a repeat performance . i think repeat performance. i think you're overestimating the egos of actors . i you're overestimating the egos of actors. i think you're overestimating the egos of actors . i think there are of actors. i think there are a lot of actors that would sort of look for to gain notoriety and, use the oscars as a platform to do just that. but, you know that is the magic of the show. remember when faye dunaway announced the wrong for best picture a couple of years ago?

she said la la land. but it la la la land. so, you know, or maybe when david niven famously had a streaker run naked behind him while he was trying to present an award. so we do want those unscrew booted moments, but we can't let it go into the realm of physical assault. now it's just a couple of weeks until the awards so i think that's right. which films are that's right. which films are that which are the runners and writers which have caught the eye. well, mark, on the that's right. it's march 12th. and of course, they've they've nominated ten films for best picture. and i think what's interesting those interesting is that among those nominees picture are nominees for best picture are blockbusters films like top gun, maverick and the way of water . maverick and the way of water. and i think this is a very concentrated effort by the academy to get crowd pleasers. and they're very few people have gone out to the movie theatre to see all quiet on the western front, which is fantastic and probably should win. but it's not. it's not a popular film . not. it's not a popular film. and this is why the ratings shows like the academy awards are dwindling . the general are dwindling. the general

pubuc are dwindling. the general public doesn't have an interest in in films or films. they haven't heard of. they want to see and celebrate the films that they go out and eat popcorn to watch . yeah, because my i can watch. yeah, because my i can remember being so invested in the oscars year in year out. you're watching on television because i would have seen lots of the films, if not all of the films that were up because it was the big, you know, crowd pleasing movies that tended to be to the four of those nominations and. somehow it drifted into territory where it was films that nobody nobody had seen, nobody had heard of . and i seen, nobody had heard of. and i drifted away from the whole process altogether. i haven't watched the oscars in years. yeah we got it. we've got to draw your back in. i mean, if you have a favourite film that has been nominated, of has been nominated, you of course, likely to course, you're more likely to watch you have to invest a watch and you have to invest a lot time doing these kinds of lot of time doing these kinds of things. i'm a member of both the screen actors guild and the critics choice association, so i get vote for those award get to vote for those award

shows and is so much content, especially now that streaming has entered our universe, there is so much content to go through . it's impossible to see at all so to whittle it down and find those nominees is a titanic task indeed. those nominees is a titanic task indeed . oh nice name check of a indeed. oh nice name check of a past winner. what would what would be your what would be the one that you would put your money on as the lately to you know sweep the boards ? well, i know sweep the boards? well, i think it's going to be a big year for everything, everywhere , all at once. it's not only a dynamic entertainer film, but it takes lot of the boxes for a hollywood good. it has, you know, it has a tremendously diverse cast , but it also has diverse cast, but it also has crowds , which is why everybody crowds, which is why everybody loves jamie lee curtis. so we see her with her first oscar nomination , a role that's almost nomination, a role that's almost completely unrecognisable from how we know her. and you've got this strong asian—american cast andifs this strong asian—american cast and it's a highly entertaining film. so my money's on that one.

and of course, cate blanchett's masterpiece in star will likely get a lot of oscar love as well . reporter and author of course nelson aspen, thank you so much for insight this evening. good to see you . thank you . it was to see you. thank you. it was quite a moment. wasn't sure that's what it was mean. i did sort of slightly laugh at it because i thought it was staged. it a lot of handbags at ten metres you know amongst love of hollywood . but i think that's hollywood. but i think that's probably, you know, the serious angle to it that, you know, it was only a slap, but it could have been it have been a have been it could have been a knife. and know whether knife. and i don't know whether the actually even go the celebs are actually even go through scanners when they through body scanners when they come in, because one would come in, because no one would imagine smith would, imagine that will smith would, for a into for example, bring a gun into the senate them. but the senate with them. but someone else might. i felt know there as a senator nelson, there was as a senator nelson, i just from it become just did away from it become a complete irrelevance to me because i didn't know what films were talking about and how i thought it thought that actually it somehow. good . i somehow. but it was good. i thought it was. because thought it was. yeah because i mean, the oscars has

mean, as you say, the oscars has become face it, it's become a bit boring, hasn't it and is it's very into virtue signals and let's all wear black this year let's this this year and let's all do this this year and let's all do this this year me tune all this stuff year and me tune all this stuff and i think that was the first time in years i found it interesting. and as you say, that a punch. was that was not a punch. it was a slap. i remember when it was a film, you know, titanic, when titanic everything, everyone titanic won everything, everyone had it. yeah, yeah, had had seen it. yeah, yeah, yeah. those films yeah. it was one of those films that everybody see. yeah, i that just everybody see. yeah, i know. look at the i know. i would look at the i would look at the list of, you know, the last few years i would look the list and think no look at the list and think no intention any of those intention of seeing any of those films. so therefore, your films. and so therefore, in your mind and i'm from from york mind and i'm from from new york was about i have no was talking about of i have no idea they even existed and i know all quiet on the know some all quiet on the western front got the western front has got all the you know here but it's you know love here but it's a german film in it's in german film and it's in it's in the german language and german critics it. and critics are not loving it. and because the novel only maria remarks is dearly is hugely remarks no is dearly is hugely revered and no this film is not regarded as the of 1920s and

1930 black and white version. it's very true to the novel and starts and goes the whole history of the first world war. whereas the current new version in which i think there's talk of is great but it does away with the story line and just it sort of half way through through the progress of the war. so i think, you know, from maybe i'm too critical because i'm ex—military , you know, i can i can spot these things and say, no, no, no, you wouldn't have won it that way. yeah no. if you got a favourite of you just quickly favourite of you just quickly favourite film of all time. oh no. a favourite for this year. oh year. like i oh this year. like sergio. i haven't of them. haven't seen any of them. haven't cinema on for about 15 years. so not the person to ask. i don't have time of i don't have time cases of i used go all the time. i know used to go all the time. i know it's very rare occurrence . it's a very rare occurrence. that's all for me on any level of a life. but thanks as always, to my panel, to julie cook, to lieutenant colonel stuart crawford. back at 6:00 crawford. i'll be back at 6:00 next saturday. next up, mark dolan tonight mark, what've you got in the show for us? neal, another brilliant show. the best bits of cinema your bits of cinema are your monologues. saturday night

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