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ireland, then labour northern ireland, then labour would support it and we will stick to our word. we will not snipe, we will not seek to play political games . and when the political games. and when the prime minister puts this deal forward for a vote, labour will support it and vote for it. and yet the protocol will never be perfect . it's a compromise yet the protocol will never be perfect. it's a compromise . but perfect. it's a compromise. but i've always been clear that if implemented correctly , it is an implemented correctly, it is an agreement that could work in the spirit of the good friday agreement. and now that it has been agreed , we will have an been agreed, we will have an obugafion been agreed, we will have an obligation to make it work. been agreed, we will have an obligation to make it work . the obligation to make it work. the moral core of the good friday agreement is simple . all people agreement is simple. all people of northern ireland have the right to identify themselves and be accepted as irish, british or both , and freely parties both, and freely parties operating in the economic life of the uk or the republic of
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ireland is an essential part of that. that is why it is good that. that is why it is good that the deal before us will see fewer unnecessary on goods moving between great britain and northern ireland. the red and green lane proposal is a good one. it will make life easier for business. it will enable the people of northern ireland to participate more freely in the economic life of the uk it has our full support. economic life of the uk it has our full support . the protocol our full support. the protocol will continue to ensure that no physical border on the island of ireland that is essential . we ireland that is essential. we all know that any physical border would be a source of tension , a physical tension, a physical manifestation of barriers between communities in northern ireland and the economic life in the republic . ireland and the economic life in the republic. this agreement will allow us to move forward as a country rather than be locked in endless disputes with our allies as it will improve our diplomatic standing, which has been damaged by the government's
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previous threats to break international law . and i am international law. and i am encouraged that the dup has said it will look carefully at the measures that it contains. it will look carefully at the measures that it contains . but measures that it contains. but we must be honest, measures that it contains. but we must be honest , this comes we must be honest, this comes with trade offs . the right with trade offs. the right honourable member for uxbridge and south islip told the people of northern ireland that his protocol meant no forms, no checks , no barriers of any kind checks, no barriers of any kind on goods. crossing the irish sea after brexit. that was absolute . a point . but refusal to engage . a point. but refusal to engage with unionist in northern ireland in good faith . never ireland in good faith. never mind take best concern seriously. and it inevitably contributed to the collapse of powersharing in northern ireland. and i says the prime minister listed all the problems with the protocol. i did. while the wonder whether had forgotten who negotiated it . so message .
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who negotiated it. so message. so when presenting what this agreement means in practise it will take time for everybody to read it and carefully consider it. i urge the prime minister to be utterly unlike his predecessor , to not pretend the predecessor, to not pretend the dealis predecessor, to not pretend the deal is something it is not. whether a trade off is to be made, argue the for case them. treat unionists with the respect to frank. honest do not the contempt of bluster. because in this town fifth anniversary year of the good friday agreement, we once again embrace compromise as a division behind us yet again. this deal is not perfect , but this deal is not perfect, but because we recognise that the uk agreed to the protocol and has an obligation to make it work because we recognise that for the protocol to work there will inevitably be trade offs because we always recognise as the peace and prosperity of northern ireland is hard won , labour will
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ireland is hard won, labour will support a wins framework . ireland is hard won, labour will support a wins framework. i ireland is hard won, labour will support a wins framework . i hope support a wins framework. i hope that in coming days others will come to support the agreement in the same spirit and join labour in voting to make protocol work in voting to make protocol work in voting to face the future, in voting for country before party. thank you, mr. speaker . voting for country before party. thank you, mr. speaker. mr. thank you, mr. speaker. mr. thank you, mr. speaker. mr. thank you , mr. speaker. can thank you, mr. speaker. can i thank the honourable gentleman for his comments and support .7 i for his comments and support? i agree with him on the substance of what he said. well, prime minister sunak has delivered to the house of commons his new deal with brussels. sir keir starmer has responded. i will debate tonight with a wide range of guests . is the windsor of guests. is the windsor framework a win? but before all of that, let's get the news headunes of that, let's get the news headlines with polly middlehurst . i would . nigel, thank you. . i would. nigel, thank you. well, the top story tonight on
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gb news. the prime minister has been addressing the house of commons tonight saying the brexit trade deal for northern ireland means businesses and people can now move forward as one united kingdom . rishi sunak one united kingdom. rishi sunak said the windsor frame work would deliver smooth flowing free trade across the uk while protecting northern ireland's sovereignty. that includes the northern ireland assembly being able stop some eu laws affecting the flow of goods which he called the stormont break. the prime minister also said the deal removed any sense of a border in the irish sea . it's border in the irish sea. it's about showing that our union that has lasted centuries can and will endure . and it's about and will endure. and it's about breaking down the barriers between us. setting aside the arguments that for too have divided us. and remembering that fellow. feeling that defines us. this family of nations . this
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this family of nations. this unite. it kingdom . well, unite. it kingdom. well, democratic unionist member ian paisley says he hopes the deal can meet his party's expectations . i think it's expectations. i think it's important that we do look at the legal issues which come forward. but i think it falls some way short and satisfying those tasks . that's my gut instinct. short and satisfying those tasks . that's my gut instinct . and i . that's my gut instinct. and i want to be positive about . i want to be positive about. i want to be positive about. i want to be positive about. i want to try and find somewhere that would allow us to see change. well, in other news tonight. cctv has been released of a car used by gunmen who shot an off duty officer in omagh. so you need detective john caldwell was shot multiple times at a sports complex in county tyrone last week. crime stoppers has offered a reward of up to £20,000 for any information. detective chief inspector eamonn corrigan says the force is appealing to anyone who may have seen the vehicle in the two weeks leading up to the attack . weeks leading up to the attack. our cctv footage shows the car leaving the sports complex and
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turning left onto the kelly clough road . immediately after clough road. immediately after the shooting , we then travelled the shooting, we then travelled past the glendale service station to the cobbler road where they abandoned the car and set it on fire. and finally, the energy regulator has reduced the cap on how much suppliers can charge customers but bills still rise after pm has announced the cap on the amount household aides pay for gas and electricity will drop by almost £1,000 from the 1st of april. however, customers are likely to pay however, customers are likely to pay 20% more on their annual bills as the government's addition will support only partially protects them. that means the average household will most likely pay means the average household will most likely pa y £500 more every most likely pay £500 more every year than they did before . year than they did before. you're up to date on tv, online on dab plus radio. you with gb news is the people's channel time favourite.
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good evening. it's called the windsor framework and prime minister sunak has just delivered his speech to the house of commons. interestingly after praising his predecessors , he spent most of his speech telling us how absolutely awful the northern ireland had been in terms of the economic life of those living in northern ireland and businesses here on the mainland trying to trade with them. so what's he come up with? well, he tells us that the border in the irish sea has now gone. border in the irish sea has now gone . there'll be a green lane gone. there'll be a green lane for goods that move back and forth between . the mainland and forth between. the mainland and northern. though he did concede there's still would be checks on up to 5% of those goods . but up to 5% of those goods. but that, i guess in a way is progress from a situation that was truly, truly awful. also the
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european union will allow us to set own rates of excise duty and vat, but of course, they can concede that happily , knowing concede that happily, knowing that this is a government that doesn't cut taxes, it's one that puts them up and they're expecting labour, of course, to be in office in 18 months time. the absolute nub of this agreement, whether it passes the fit and proper test is around the of sovereignty. clearly if a court in strasbourg if the european union's own court in strasbourg still has the final say , then northern ireland say, then northern ireland simply got brexit in recognisable way . have a look at recognisable way. have a look at these exchanges. the question that was by the irish broadcaster rtl e about the continuing row of the european court of justice and you'll see the response from sunak . and the response from sunak. and then you'll see the response from commission president as ulla von der leyen make your
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minds up who you think is telling the truth . know that telling the truth. know that many people in northern ireland are worried about being subject to changes in eu laws. to address that, today's agreement introduces a new stormont break. many have called for stormont to have a say over these laws . but have a say over these laws. but the stormont break goes and means that stormont can in fact stop them from applying in northern ireland. this establish a clear process through which the democratically elected can pull an emergency brake for changes to eu goods rules that would have significant and lasting effects on everyday lives. if the brake is pulled, the uk government will have a veto. the unionists say they want to be the same and it's suppose later they want it to be treated the same as any other parts of the uk. however, northern ireland is the only
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part of the uk that shares land border with the eu . so the will border with the eu. so the will have to be some differences for northern ireland compared the rest of the uk . do you believe rest of the uk. do you believe the unionist accept different treatment ? can you point to for treatment? can you point to for how instance, the european court justice will have jurisdiction in northern ireland? i think we all collectively share an ambition to avoid, as you say, a hard border between northern ireland and the republic. and that's why there's a role for eu law in northern ireland that happens with consent . and as happens with consent. and as a result of the agreements that we've reached today. there is further democratic accountability of . that role of accountability of. that role of eu law with the new stormont break, which provides a very powerful mechanism for the stormont institution to use when it has concerns . and i think it has concerns. and i think thatis it has concerns. and i think that is really important . part that is really important. part of correcting the democratic deficit that existed and providing reassurance to everyone in northern that they are in control of , their own
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are in control of, their own destiny. yes, indeed, the european court of justice is the sole and ultimate arbiter of eu law. that's natural . it's law. that's natural. it's prescribed by the eu legal order . so the ecj will have the final say on eu law and single market issues . so it couldn't be issues. so it couldn't be clearer, could it? despite being asked a very specific question about the role of the european court of justice and the fact that in this windsor framework document the government very boldly says the sovereign power to veto new rules will with us. ursula von der leyen makes perfectly clear that the european court of justice will be the final arbiter at the eu court will have the final say. and for me that's why this so—called doesn't cut the mustard. we await the legal texts which will come out the course of the next few days. interestingly, keir starmer's
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labour party will vote for. i don't think, as i predicted last week, we'll see any cabinet resignations . oh yes, there'll resignations. oh yes, there'll be some of the irg will kick up a farce when they realise what they've been told. but the prime minister isn't the truth . minister isn't the truth. although it's not him, we should blame. it's theresa may and. olly robbins. oh, now, lord robbins , of course, for his robbins, of course, for his wonderful skills at negotiating barnier , verhofstadt and the barnier, verhofstadt and the others deliberately used northern ireland to trap the british negotiators . they did it british negotiators. they did it brilliantly, and we're living with the consequences. so you tell me, is the windsor framework a win? give me your views, farage at gb news dot uk. well, let's go to westminster. let's be joined by olivia utley, gb news political reporter. i'm olivia . my sense this despite my olivia. my sense this despite my objections on the grounds of sovereignty and continued checks
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of some nature on goods trade travelling between english ports and northern ireland. my sense of this is the prime minister is going to win this in westminster. pretty comfortable play westminster. pretty comfortable play . yes, the prime minister is play. yes, the prime minister is certainly enjoying his moment in the sun. i've just been in the chamber hearing him speak and he sounded very chipper in indeed andifs sounded very chipper in indeed and it's very why the atmosphere generally westminster is hugely positive. there's a feeling that rishi sunak has achieved of something that his predecessors thought were impossible. the biggest , thought were impossible. the biggest, perhaps, is that he's actually managed to reopen the text of the withdrawal agreement treaty, meaning that, for example, the uk can, northern ireland can now diverge on tax on vat if the uk chooses to. so for example , the uk lowers for example, the uk lowers alcohol , then a pint will be alcohol, then a pint will be cheapen alcohol, then a pint will be cheaper. both in mainland britain and in northern ireland.
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now that is seen as a huge as is this new green line for goods coming out of great britain into northern, meaning that, for example, online , which was example, online, which was previously a pretty arduous process with lots and lots of checks , will now be made much checks, will now be made much easier . checks, will now be made much easier. sausages and cold meats, which mentioned a bit earlier. those were subject to very, very stringent checks . is making life stringent checks. is making life very difficult for. stringent checks. is making life very difficult for . butchers stringent checks. is making life very difficult for. butchers in northern ireland. so there are lots of practical changes which are a very, very good news and have managed to garner the support of some very strident brexiteers . so for example, i brexiteers. so for example, i spoke to davis earlier who said that the prime minister had played a blinder. now of course, david davis resigned as brexit secretary when he didn't like theresa deal. also spoke to stephen who told me that he was prepared to resign as late as yesterday . but rishi sunak could yesterday. but rishi sunak could reassure assured him that the terms of this deal were such huge concessions that he
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couldn't resist supporting it. so, yes, i think you're absolutely that the deal will get through westminster. and i think you're right that there won't be any cabinet resignation . of course, the big flying ointment is that it doesn't sound like the dup is happy. i spoke to sammy wilson just now. it's not wilson. sorry, ian . it's not wilson. sorry, ian. just now. and he said that the settlement break was like having a handbrake . it's under the a handbrake. it's under the seizure of your driving , a handbrake. it's under the seizure of your driving, and you'll never actually be able to it. he said he used exactly the same phrases you that his gut instinct , although he does want instinct, although he does want to read the legal text of the agreement, he's got in thinks is that it simply won't cut the mustard. so that's a bit of an issue for but it's certainly the happiest heard him sounding in a long time and in some respects this could be the end of a very, very thorny process . there very thorny process. there olivia utley, thank you very much indeed, from report live from westminster. well isn't it funny sausages. you rememberjim
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hacker? yes, minister. in the euro . it was the issue that made euro. it was the issue that made prime minister. the fact that we can now trade sausages is within places that are legally parts of the united kingdom is not of itself a great victory . but it's itself a great victory. but it's better than the awful position that we were in before . i'm very that we were in before. i'm very pleased to say that right now, dame arlene , the former first dame arlene, the former first minister of northern ireland, and of course, now gb news presenter, joins me down the line. arlene, better than the current situation , but surely current situation, but surely this go far enough does it for the dup's to go back into stormont powersharing . well stormont powersharing. well nigel good to be with you as always. i think it is much, much better than what we had done, isn't it interesting? i heard you saying there . first of all, you saying there. first of all, he praised his predecessor and then completely destroyed the legacy that he's been left by them , because, of course, the them, because, of course, the protocol incredibly difficult ,
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protocol incredibly difficult, for those of us living in to northern ireland produced our choice goods on the shelves at an increased the cost of goods as well . so now we have a number as well. so now we have a number of changes, practical changes i think are good news for northern ireland businesses. we will of course want to see the detail in relation the so—called green and red lane. what does the red line contain? what does the green lane contain? and indeed does the green lane have any additional checks that you wouldn't normally have within an internal market? and then, of course, you will want to look at the so—called stormont break. what does that mean? what does it actually involve? and will it actually allow stormont to say no to new, new eu laws? now, the prime minister in the house of commons seems to be suggesting that that is the case. but i'd be very interested to see the legal text on all of that . yeah, legal text on all of that. yeah, i mean, we had the emergency brake, if you remember, on borders immigration that was borders and immigration that was discussed referendum back discussed in the referendum back what like a very long what now seems like a very long time ago. i think what was
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interesting and you're quite right, we'll see the legal text the couple days. what the next couple of days. what was interesting as to who would the final arbiter of any proposed eu law? eu law will be ursula von der leyen didn't even need to think about her answer. she was absolutely clear that the ecj would be that arbiter. and i put to you that if a british prime minister has tried to sell the dup a deal or an a break that turned out not to be true . why should they trust him true. why should they trust him him ? well, we'll have to out in him? well, we'll have to out in the next couple of days, nigel. but i think it is interesting that she was very honest and she was unequivocal. she was unequivocal in relation to that issue about the ecj . and you'll issue about the ecj. and you'll remember back to the command paper from david frost in july of 2021, where he had made suggestions of actually a panel, an arbitration panel. so it just
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wouldn't be the ecj, there would be somebody there from the uk as well and somebody independent and they would deal with any problems that there . but that problems that there. but that was rejected by european side. they will stick very, very much to the that it is the ecj. if there's european law, if there's any problems with it, it's the ecj that deals with the issue. yeah. yeah. final thought , yeah. yeah. final thought, arlene, if i may. i was horrified that this deal was presented and named in windsor. even more horrified that on the day of the deal, the unelected commission president, ursula von der lion, who was not even the head of the eu. that's a belgian, michel. yeah horrified that the king met woman. and in doing so appeared to endorse this agreement. before we see all the details . i just wondered all the details. i just wondered whether you had any thoughts on that ? well, i do have thoughts that? well, i do have thoughts on that. and i think it was very
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crass by the government to do that. they obviously know how much we who are monarchists here in northern ireland love the king and really look up to the king and really look up to the king and really look up to the king and they want. they have used the king this way, which i think is wrong. the king should be above politics. made the point, of course, that he makes heads of state, all of the time. this lady is not a head of state. this lady is from the european union. and i think it was a deliberate attempt to try and say, well , if the was a deliberate attempt to try and say, well, if the king is content with this deal and in some way connect it with it, then unionists shouldn't have a problem with that. look, if the is okay and if the text is okay, then unionists will look at it there. no need to involve his majesty king. i think the government made a mistake in relation to that and i think they should reflect on that very deeply . absolutely. arlene, deeply. absolutely. arlene, thank you. were joining me in a moment. camilla tominey he will join me. of course , daily join me. of course, daily telegraph, now a gb news presenter but many
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so is the windsor framework a win? some of your thoughts coming in. one viewer says rishi has sorted it . well, they are has sorted it. well, they are up. another says the dup won't accept anything which results in accept anything which results in a return to powersharing under a sinn fein first minister. well, if you believe there's almost no point in to the assembly at all, given demographic and political changes that have happened . changes that have happened. northern ireland, gabby says looking at the windsor framework , it seems like the eu got sunak to sign us up to dynamic
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alignment. well, gabby, whether you're right on that or not, i don't we're going to get the legal text . what is clear is the legal text. what is clear is the situation is better portrayed , situation is better portrayed, of course, because it was absolutely the ghastly what is clear is they made a concession on excise duties on vat. but in the absolute knowledge that this government doesn't want to cut any taxes at all. in fact, it's cater to put taxes up and they expect labour to be elevated time. but what really vexes me is the fact it's called windsor at all and the role of a certain king charles what as advertised before the break joins me windsor why. yes it's a really good question and what's muddied these waters is the fact that there was a suggestion that he was going to meet of ursula on saturday. and that looked odd, didn't it? because you turn the famed negotiation. it's one thing to say he's going to meet her because she's an incoming
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andifs her because she's an incoming and it's only the polite thing to do and they're going to have to do and they're going to have to hit windsor castle because that's what the king does. well, that's what the king does. well, that's the guidance from the palace. on a second. she's palace. hang on a second. she's not no, she's head not a head state. no, she's head of a bureaucracy called the european commission. it's actually michel is the actually mr. michel is the senior political figure of this state, because he's chairman of the chairman of the the he's chairman of the council, although it's difficult to make comparisons. to make any comparisons. days gone particular issue gone by on this particular issue because the negotiations because all of the negotiations have done in brussels and have been done in brussels and announced from there. so we haven't a situation haven't really had a situation with income being here at with an income being here at this moment. interestingly guidance from the palace that the king was pleased to meet any world leader. that's how they her. if are visiting britain and it is the government's advice that he should so. so we've also had this slight tug of war today. between the palace saying that they're acting on government advice and then a government advice and then a government spokesman sort of suggesting that it was down to the palace. in my experience of royal rapport, for however long i've been doing it, it is the
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government that issues the advice on to as to whether the monarch should meet somebody who's coming into the country. yes. and they're also making the point, the palace that they have already had discussions about all the matters , that this isn't all the matters, that this isn't related to the protocol issue. but, of course , people looking but, of course, people looking at it will go, hang on a minute while the seems to be a bit off, is it called the. why is it the thing that i tried to probe earlier? you know what she always meant to be doing it in windsor. what's going on? and there a suggestion they there was a suggestion that they wanted to london wanted it to be close to london for , but in for logistics, but not in london. can't quite understand that either. but i think that either. but but i think confusion has been caused by this suggestion . it is correct. this suggestion. it is correct. the mail on sunday did it that there was going to be this meeting saturday then it meeting on saturday and then it was pulled. i'd say that was pulled. and i'd say that it's to have it's extraordinary to have thought idea of the king thought of the idea of the king meeting if the negotiations meeting her. if the negotiations were still ongoing . less were still ongoing. less extraordinary that she has her. i know you're really opposed to this, but but the argument that the government's instructed him
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to serve her tea so they can discuss ukraine and environmental issues. i mean, there's a degree of credibility to that. but you're suspicious of the timing. well, i mean, there are a couple of points here. the first is the government could advise the king that it's correct to meet. he doesn't like. he doesn't take direct instructions from the governments. ultimately, it's governments. so ultimately, it's his be. so his choice whether to be. so here's my worry. are beginning to see charles his real political beliefs . we've already political beliefs. we've already see this is the trouble that you can't put the charles genie back in the bottle when it comes to the fact he was accused while he was prince of wales of sending black memos quotes , black memos and of quotes, interfering projects. he's in a different role completely now, and his have always insisted that he will rule differently to how he behaved . the longest how he behaved. the longest serving ordinary . let's look at serving ordinary. let's look at it the other way, though nigel. if the castle at all seem to meet her and he had said no, that would have been a real interference politics. i mean, that would have been quite
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controversial, wouldn't it? yes he said to them, do he could have said to them, do not name windsor. you know, not use name windsor. you know, i'm happy to meet her, but don't use the windsor in this use the name windsor in this agreement because very clearly in of the public one in the minds of the public one is being linked with the other. he have that. but you he could have done that. but you might believe them. but they might not believe them. but they are stressing that is are stressing that that is geography than royal geography related than royal release. they're release. you so baloney. they're argument and i know from the palace because i was there yeah twice charles visited the european parliament spoke in the european parliament spoke in the european parliament spoke in the european parliament praised the european parliament praised the european parliament, praised the institutions of the european union and actually asked the institutions to have more . so, institutions to have more. so, you know, i know that's what he thinks, but i fear that today there are many people, not just there are many people, not just the eu, this community in northern ireland, but many people who absolutely want charles to succeed. he'll be very upset by this , while also very upset by this, while also i think it's not a good look to be dragged into the political in this light at all. the other thing that slightly complicates matters, of course, is that
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their first talk as , king and their first talk as, king and queen consort, is europe and not the commonwealth. there'll be paris and berlin? we think so . paris and berlin? we think so. hasn't been confirmed yet. and i await details, which i think are coming next week . now, again, coming next week. now, again, that's raised some eyebrows because him even because the idea of him even taking over as commonwealth heads of government was controversial after late mother. i mean, he was unanimously appointed. but we know that there commonwealth countries flirting the idea of flirting with the idea of republicanism not least after barbados went their own way and there's flirtations with it in australia at the moment with a left wing government in control. so you might have thought that the priority would be to visit one those nations first. you one of those nations first. you could make counterargument could make the counterargument there. in the seventies there's a coronation in may. they don't want go on a long trip at want to go on a long trip at this stage in the game. but again, that's adding to this idea of then packing a bit more than of power punch than a kind of soft power punch when comes to that diplomacy. when it comes to that diplomacy. i i'll forgive them that i think i'll forgive them that because you know ten weeks to the coronation as you say
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they're in the in the mid seventies. final quick thought. switching to politics, sunak, you know, the good. legally it's not worth a rubber bands in my opinion. we'll out for the next couple of days. the euroskeptics have been routed , i think ever have been routed, i think ever since the appointment of jeremy hunt . the dup since the appointment of jeremy hunt. the dup may accept it. they may accept . i doubt they they may accept. i doubt they will. this was boris johnson's big moment. ironic that the man who sold this terrible deal, who said there wouldn't be a border in the irish sea for any businessman, had a problem with cheques to give him a ring . he cheques to give him a ring. he saw this as his way back then. yes. although i think that that path to a comeback via this route is narrowing . lots of mood route is narrowing. lots of mood music was heard from olivia earlier talking about the idea david davis supporting this deal david davis supporting this deal. well, of course he does because he doesn't support boris johnson returning victory. so there's a lot of politics at play there's a lot of politics at play here. and i think if sunak does this with the does land this with the brexiteers it certainly brexiteers, then it certainly does decrease. boris johnson's
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stock. and let's be honest, that's exactly what number ten wants to do right now. that don't want a big blonde boris in the waving the drum the background waving the drum for brexit. i think my reservations about the deal i think that becomes much less likely today . great stuff. likely today. great stuff. you're doing a sunday morning show for gb news. tell us more. indeed. back in the studio at nine 3211 with big name sunday mornings sunday mornings tune in if you haven't seen it. i it yesterday. it was very very indeed. on that note, we'll take a break. more discussion in a couple of minutes .
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it. kevin says , the eu court it. kevin says, the eu court have the final say on what happens. have the final say on what happens . the have the final say on what happens. the eu market. it's their house. i understand the storm. a break will give the irish and uk the exact same to make the final decision with regards to uk law . look, this regards to uk law. look, this idea , this idea that rishi sunak idea, this idea that rishi sunak says the national ultimately has a veto. well you know what? we've got a veto over everything. we could leave nato tomorrow if that's actually what we wanted to do. but within the framework of what's negotiated with the european union as a naturally law abiding country , i naturally law abiding country, i don't believe we're going to have veto and nor does kate hoey. he was just joining me fresh from the house of lords. and of course, somebody hails from northern ireland and she's rushed in a document to me h.m. government political declaration by the european commission and
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government of the united kingdom and buried deep in the body of this is going to be the legal text. well we're very lucky that in the last 15 minutes, kate has managed to read and memorised all. okay. good evening. good evening. let's let's start with. let's start trade. you know the situation has been terrible, hasn't it, for the last few years for northern ireland. know tree is not able to go back and fold plants so . i mean it's been fold plants so. i mean it's been pretty bad. it's been bad. and of course. now there's this wonderful image that everything is normal . everything wonderful image that everything is normal. everything is wonderful image that everything is normal . everything is back to is normal. everything is back to normal. this green lane . well, normal. this green lane. well, of course everything is back to normal. you need a green normal. you don't need a green lane all. you need lane at all. you just need a business in bristol to be able to trade with belfast the same way they would trade with birmingham not to birmingham. that's not going to happen. birmingham. that's not going to happen . yeah, i mean, it is happen. yeah, i mean, it is better there's doubt it will be less bureaucracy. green lane is better . but i heard less bureaucracy. green lane is better. but i heard sunak in the commons saying that they wouldn't stop all checks . still
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wouldn't stop all checks. still about 5% of goods would be subject to some of checks though, so it's still going to be the same as somebody bristol selling goods to manchester or the isle of skye, is it? no, it's not. and you see the fundamental issue. i know it really does make me quite annoyed and sad and, angry that we're almost representing the fact that the eu has has given us something . as some great us something. as some great wonderful victory . rishi sunak. wonderful victory. rishi sunak. now yes , they have given now yes, they have given something . but there are things something. but there are things that we should . first of all, that we should. first of all, have given away, but also know we have the opportunity to really say this protocol has to go. we need to get northern ireland fully integrated back into the rest of the uk. we're not going get that. to be fair, they have they are going to get rid of quite a of the law that's already brought in the numbers of trade regulations and they have to change the idea that
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somehow it's all going to be okay because the executive , okay because the executive, northern ireland will be having a look at it and be able to. but you know , how many of these you know, how many of these regulations and trades change, how are they really going to look at each one? and even if they do look at it and they get they do look at it and they get the 13 members to say, we don't like, it's not clear what then happens and who really can stop it. and don't think that there it. and i don't think that there is a veto for the government . is a veto for the government. no, either. that will no, i don't either. that will become clearer over the course the next few days. who do you blame for this mess in the first place? i blame theresa may, and i it quite hypocritical of i find it quite hypocritical of her getting and whispering on her getting up and whispering on about wonderful this was and about how wonderful this was and how back. back how they all must back. back rishi, because she was the one who sold to the eu. the who actually sold to the eu. the idea that somehow. yes, the border. this whole idea about a hard border . there isn't. there hard border. there isn't. there is . the really hard border. there isn't. there is. the really sad thing is that evenin is. the really sad thing is that even in the last week or so, there have been alternative arrangements come out that would have actually put anything in northern ireland under , british northern ireland under, british
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law then to make sure law who are then to make sure that eu law , the european that eu law, the european parliament applied. now i'm going to cut live to jacob rees—mogg. jacob rees—mogg has just left the house of commons. if you're a constituent he has done day's work. jacob is on his way because he's going to be sitting in this chair in 20 minutes time presenting the first. jacob rees—mogg show. and here he is. here's jacob . he's here he is. here's jacob. he's just about to walk over lambeth bridge. he's on his way to this chair . it's bridge. he's on his way to this chair. it's going to be his first show tonight. he's going to be with gb news monday . to be with gb news monday. thursday, eight till nine every evening . and i spoke to jacob evening. and i spoke to jacob earlier on this afternoon and he's really , really excited he's really, really excited about doing this. and he's somebody i've known him for a few years. he's courteous. he's always he will always listen politely to the other side of the argument. all i can say , the argument. all i can say, jacob, is pick up the step, dear boy. you're going to be needed here. very very shortly. jacob rees—mogg, he is always very
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courteous , and he's he's he's courteous, and he's he's he's a lovely person, you know what i mean? he really is a nice person. and i hope he does very well. i hope he will. i think he interrupted you. i'm sorry, but i think i think he's got the point. but i do think i think this is all of the seven tests have to be followed because i think the dup will a little bit of time they'll get some lawyers to look at it and it is, you know, the devil is in the detail. i think the warm words and the whole way that the thing was today was just i find it really quite i just sort of sad that richie felt he had to go to that richie felt he had to go to that extent of involved being our king. i'm going to come to that. i'm going to come to that before i just sticking, if i may, for a little bit with northern ireland. if the dp by i don't accept this and say it really isn't good enough , we're really isn't good enough, we're staying under auspices of european court of justice. i thought as the wonderland could not have been clearer and i best
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i'm betting somewhere deep in that debate it's going to confirm that that you and i both and that she was so clear about if the dp don't go back into any form of power sharing agreement. if stallman doesn't reopen what happensin if stallman doesn't reopen what happens in northern ireland? well, i think the government already in the last months or so bringing in legislation, i mean, we've got just today in the lords, we had not just the elections bill about putting off the election for another year, but also bringing in the organ donation bill that was being very much pushed . a young, young very much pushed. a young, young lad , the family pushing it, we lad, the family pushing it, we would be the same. the rest of united kingdom that's been put in, through today, all in in, put through today, all in one day. know , we got there one day. you know, we got there when it not when the government has wanted to . they have has wanted to. they have legislated northern ireland legislated for northern ireland over years on over the past few years on abortion and on same sex marriage , on all sorts of things marriage, on all sorts of things they can it and i think it was interesting today peter he and actually asked question of the
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secretary of state's minister in the lords as to what where they going to do you know could they not make it easier now for a form of direct rule . i mean form of direct rule. i mean integration to me the way forward i mean, logically, logic actually, if the devolution path that we've been work, we've been down this before back in the seventies, but if the devolved path cannot be made work under the terms of the belfast agreement , it the terms of the belfast agreement, it is a case of direct rule, isn't it? yes. and of course, what what with huge protests , people always say, oh, protests, people always say, oh, then of course you'd have to have the irish government involvement. well, why you know, why would we have to have it? and the also the reality is, you know, i've said this so many times what other country be making such a wonderful thing out of the fact that they have allowed the eu to you know they've got back a little bit more of their control over their own country . it is unbelievable.
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own country. it is unbelievable. i know that is the absolute mess and.by i know that is the absolute mess and. by the way, i'm with you. i think that i think that theresa may bears a very heavy responsibility for all of this. and her chief negotiator , ollie and her chief negotiator, ollie robinson, was , of course, robinson, who was, of course, now lord robinson in i haven't seen the alpha house with you as a reward for the great work he's done for this country. now, i astonished over the weekend i was absolutely astonished to think that any form , political think that any form, political framework or agreement would have the name windsor attached to it that i saw in mail on sunday. there've been a proposed meeting between the king and commission president von der leyen have been scheduled for the weekend but that meeting had been put . so i thought the weekend but that meeting had been put. so i thought this well maybe dropped the idea of windsor maybe she isn't actually going to meet the king on this particular trip . how do you feel particular trip. how do you feel about all of this? i was very
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angry and i tweeted about it right away. i just think it's you know, the word windsor is round the world with our royal family. i know it wasn't the actual discussions held in windsor castle, but that that thatis windsor castle, but that that that is the way it would be presented to bring his majesty the king into something so political , i the king into something so political, i mean, if he'd wanted to meet her, i'm sure that could been arranged. but to have it on the day when this very, very difficult , have it on the day when this very, very difficult, you have it on the day when this very, very difficult , you know, very, very difficult, you know, all of this was being publicly aired for the first time. and let's forget let's not forget that everybody's been in secret. this has all been secret. nobody's known anything about this. and suddenly it's all. and king charles is brought into this. and i think i, i said i genuinely think that has not thought through and has been badly advised. i'm surprised that buckingham palace went along with it. however, i think now there is a real danger for rishi sunak. i think that will
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live to regret this . what about live to regret this. what about king? will the king live to regret this when all we all are beginning? i mean, i am a staunch royalist so are most people in northern ireland really good good king barely at all of that. and this what so sad that they are actually so patron izing that they thought that, you know, if we call it the windsor document and we have the windsor document and we have the king involved, all the king involved, that all those who come with those people who come out with their any time their union flags any time there's a royal visit will of say, oh, this must be all right, just patronage is the danger. just so patronage is the danger. isn't the danger , kate, that isn't the danger, kate, that people like you and i, you know, and most of the country who are strongly pro the royal family, the role that it's played, i'm the role that it's played, i'm the queen of course popularised the queen of course popularised the monarchy in the most astonishing. well how much queen late majesty would never have done this we just know that it really you know i agree with you . isn't there a danger that this man, as king starts to show his
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political colours and that many of us would naturally pro monarchy begin to ask ? we're monarchy begin to ask? we're going to start to ask ourselves some serious. well, i hope not in the sense that you know, the monarchy has lasted for a very long time at king charles won't last you know, in a way we have to sort of look at this in terms of the long game. but you're right, will be a lot of people questioning on watching every single thing that king charles does from now on. he did give a promise he took over that he would be he would speak only about things that, you know , about things that, you know, were not political. and this was so political. this was really really political today . and really political today. and i there will be a lot of people in there will be a lot of people in the country who are maybe not interested in northern ireland, maybe not interested in the protocol, but will have seen this something that was just this as something that was just a step too him . king and a step too for him. king and william the prime minister getting us into a lot of them naturally will be right now. the
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other aspect of this, as we look ahead, know the battles that we've been involved in since that referendum back in 2016, in seven years. i know, i know . seven years. i know, i know. where's the time gone and we're still we're still engaged with these battles as we're seeing today. keir starmer's intervention was interesting . intervention was interesting. keir starmer has said that this is significantly better than it was and that the labour will put country before party in voting for this agreement. country before party in voting for this agreement . what do you for this agreement. what do you trust the labour party or nothing? i made my views known before on keir starmer. i'm afraid i would not trust him on the eu. as far as the end of this room and it's quite a small room we're in and i really wouldn't because i know how he behaved during the when we were trying to get the bills through parliament and he he will he will capitalise this and i do think that actually you know the eu have more willing perhaps to
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go along with some of these things changes with rishi sunak because know that the conservatives are 25 points. i think in the house and there's likely to be a labour, labour government and a labour government will not be trying to distance itself from the eu. so it is dangerous and i don't think keir keir has has done himself any favours by the way he's going to behave alignment is coming. thank you very much indeed. is coming. thank you very much indeed . we'll take a break. back indeed. we'll take a break. back with you and a couple of minutes
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conservative benches were pretty strongly behind the prime minister , sir jeffrey donaldson minister, sir jeffrey donaldson for the dup . he gave a very for the dup. he gave a very measured response and recognised considerable had been made. so it's been good day for the prime minister. if it turns out the so—called veto isn't true and that the ecj still is the ultimate arbiter , that it's that ultimate arbiter, that it's that it's not quite so good . that's it's not quite so good. that's absolutely the fundamental. if the veto is , then it is a good the veto is, then it is a good deal. the veto is, then it is a good deal . if the veto isn't real. deal. if the veto isn't real. when you look the legal text, it'll come to that first show tonight. john, have what are the subjects what are we get? well, we're inevitably going to be talking about the protocol and what has happened today and the involvement of the king and then we're going to talk about free speech whether it's right speech and whether it's right censor and what we censor james bond and what we can't be doing with that sort of thing. well, jacob, terrific welcome to the gb news family. i'm sure you're going to be a great success. well, following your a terrifying your footsteps is a terrifying prospect. some your viewers prospect. some of your viewers tell me they live in a state with jacob. whatever you do . but
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with jacob. whatever you do. but before that. let's first get the all important . hi there. it's all important. hi there. it's aidan mcgivern here from the met office. we keep a lot of over the next 24 hours, but under any clear spells overnight in the north the chance of seeing the aurora borealis, it's to be a good one potentially overnight. but there is a lot of cloud, unfortunately , getting in the unfortunately, getting in the way for the vast majority of that cloud coming in from the east it's coming in from the nonh east it's coming in from the north sea, giving a few in places the best for northern lights viewing is western scotland with clear skies here and well the northerly of course helping things along . there is helping things along. there is a chance further south for the north norfolk coast later in the night with some breaks developing further south again there will be some clear spells and a frost, but i think too far south to see those northern lights, a lot of cloud elsewhere, frost free way. we've got the cloud where we've got the clear spells as low as minus seven for the highlands seven celsius for the highlands and windy one two and fairly windy minus one two minus degrees on those
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minus three degrees on those clear spells then really tuesday's very similar to monday lots of cloud coming in to the east and across central areas, giving some showers otherwise bright or sunny, spells 7 to 9 celsius, but feeling cold with that wind from the north see further showers come along. in fact, perhaps an uptick in showers on tuesday evening, especially for northern and eastern england into the midlands , central, southern and midlands, central, southern and then later the southwest as well. those showers trundling through, but actually by the end of the night , those showers die of the night, those showers die down once again. and we keep the clear spells on and off in the south and clear periods for western scotland. otherwise, a lot of cloud keeping things generally a few degrees above freezing on wednesday , once freezing on wednesday, once more. a cloudy day for many , i more. a cloudy day for many, i think a bit more of a chance . think a bit more of a chance. some sunny spells coming through with these showers in the east and some decent sunny spells for southern england, south wales, northern ireland as well as western scotland thursday and friday should see fewer a bit
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good evening. i'm jacob rees—mogg and welcome to my new nightly show on gb news, the state of the nation . the deal of state of the nation. the deal of dawn government sources invoked papal languages. smoke is white, but does this mean brexit is finally complete? and have we taken back control? the brilliantly outspoken, newly appointed deputy chairman of the conservative party, leonidas an, joins me here in the studio for . his take on today's developments and i'll be joined by former brexit secretary david davis to unpick the day's events. his majesty the king hosted an audience of von der leyen at windsor earlier today,
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