ask why is it so difficult we'd ask why is it so difficult to deport foreign criminals and those who their asylum those who filed their asylum claims .7 and dell, former claims? and tiffany dell, former racing driver and of course , a racing driver and of course, a one time top gear presenter joins me on talking points. but before all of that, let's get the news with polly middlehurst . nigel, thank you. and good evening to you. our top story tonight, a couple that went missing with their newborn baby in january have been further arrested on suspicion of gross negligence . manslaughter. negligence. manslaughter. constance martin and her partner, mark gordon were found in brighton yesterday and were initially arrested on suspicion of child neglect. more than 200 police officers are searching a 91 square mile area to try to find the two month old baby. sussex police are assessing the baby's welfare on an hourly bafis. baby's welfare on an hourly basis . whilst we still have hope basis. whilst we still have hope that the baby can be found safe

and well, we must retain that hope. and as you see, the number of officers we have deployed on that open search, however as time progresses as to whether it is closing tonight, as it was last night, in terms of the cold and the coldness and the impact that would have on a baby. clearly the risk is getting higher . clearly the risk is getting higher. well, in other news today, the prime minister visited northern ireland to try to convince unionists to support his new trade deal with the eu . his new trade deal with the eu. rishi sunak insists the so called windsor framework of the northern ireland protocol addresses concerns around it and urged the dp to return to power sharing at stormont. the deal barriers on trade across the irish sea, but it still includes a role for the european court justice. tory backbenchers and the dup are still reviewing the detail. if there is a significant eu law that comes along, that will have a lasting and significant impact on the everyday lives of people here in

northern ireland, that the assembly will be allowed to pull the emergency brake simply crystal clear. the uk government then does have an unequivocal core veto and what i've said is that the uk government wants to sit down with the parties in northern ireland, the assembly, to codify the uk government would use veto. the prime minister rishi sunak there are now more than 100,000 civil servants a planning strike action on the day of the chancellor's budget. members of the public and commercial services union, which represents government departments, border force and the dvla, will all walk out on the 15th of march. london underground staff, in conjunction with unions aslef and the rmt will also strike in disputes over pensions and job losses . and lastly, three energy losses. and lastly, three energy firms are to bring a high court challenge against the sale of collapsed company bulb to octopus energy . lawyers octopus energy. lawyers representing scottishpower british gas and e.on claim there are serious public interest and

legal issues with the deal . they legal issues with the deal. they are challenging the government to approve the takeover and increased a loan to help with the transfer. bulb had 1.6 million customers when it fell into administration at the end of 2022. that's all for me. i'm back in and out now. far out . back in and out now. far out. good evening. while the newspapers today were effusive in their praise of rishi sunak brexit, breakthrough brexit done it last. the headlines were quite extraordinary . and i quite extraordinary. and i suppose we should celebrate. shouldn't we? i mean, after all, we can now eat the same sausages on cocktail sticks at parties in both london and belfast. i'm being very sarcastic. i mean, the truth of it is that northern ireland had been left by the conservative party in simply the

most awful place and there is no question that sunak's framework agreement with the european union in terms of trade is immeasurably better. the terrible situation we were in before . there are still before. there are still questions about the status of this agreement. how it will affect the protocol itself and indeed the treaty that we signed. leaving the european union, there are questions around the veto, but it does seem to me that the debate is settled . in that building behind settled. in that building behind me now , i say that the erg are me now, i say that the erg are meeting as we speak. me now, i say that the erg are meeting as we speak . we'll get meeting as we speak. we'll get jacob rees—mogg as soon as he leaves that room. the real debate today has moved on to belfast. there is one very fundamental question. will the dup agree to this deal? and if they do, then powersharing is going to be back. if they do . going to be back. if they do. the opportunity to debate new eu laws , perhaps with a veto, we'll

laws, perhaps with a veto, we'll find out in time. we'll be back on the agenda and indeed you know, the northern ireland assembly could look at the whole dealin assembly could look at the whole deal in just a couple of years time . will the dup agree? give time. will the dup agree? give me your views , please. farage at me your views, please. farage at gb news. don't uk. let's go straight to belfast . let's join straight to belfast. let's join gb news as political editor darren mckee . jeffrey. darren, darren mckee. jeffrey. darren, good evening . good evening, good evening. good evening, nigel. as you said, we have the prime minister here today essentially part of his sales pitch. he was in windsor yesterday parliament last night in belfast today, probably talking business leaders to talking to business leaders to try win them over to his try and win them over to his windsor must be windsor framework. it must be said most business leaders do seem be on board. the big seem to be on board. the big question as pose tonight is question as you pose tonight is where are the dup? and they are holding the cards in close to the chest and they may well be somewhat of a divisions. we heard ian paisley junior heard from ian paisley junior and wilson to dup's last and sammy wilson to dup's last night suggesting this deal would not cut the mustard that wasn't a view of jeffrey donaldson, the

leader of the today. he says leader of the dup today. he says essentially a lot of been achieved, but there are still questions outstanding . and i questions outstanding. and i think we have to remember , think we have to remember, nigel, that this is not just all about the protocol. there's a lot of internal northern irish politics that plays into this as well. i think there are three key things. first of all, the dup repeatedly made it clear they're to work the they're not going to work to the timetable the british timetable. the british government a run to government have set out a run to celebrate essence of the 25th anniversary friday anniversary of the good friday agreement. it's clear. dublin, brussels, london. washington wants storm and restored by midday april. they say we're not going to work on that timetable. second of all, there were local elections here. nigel in may and there concern in the dup that there is concern in the dup that if they agree to this too soon that they could be outflanked by people have taken it even people who have taken it even harder line on the protocol here in northern ireland did quite well the assembly elections well in the assembly elections last i think last year. and finally, i think also to recognise that also we have to recognise that sinn is the largest party sinn fein is the largest party in northern ireland now in terms of and the role dup

of mlas and the role dup members, let's be clear this who might feel a little bit uncomfortable going into government a first minister government with a first minister from sinn fein ? so if you add from sinn fein? so if you add all that together, it is maybe not surprise that the dup are not a surprise that the dup are not a surprise that the dup are not rushing into the decision on all of this . no, i understand all of this. no, i understand that the internal politics, local elections , all of that. local elections, all of that. but darren, you know, what was said very clearly by sir jeffrey donaldson is they want to have a look at the legal texts . are we. look at the legal texts. are we. do you think we're any closer to understanding whether the so—called veto really is a veto and whether whether this means. well is going to be fundamental treaty change? so i think in some regards, yes. because jeffrey donaldson gave the impression this morning that he is at least superficially looked at this idea of the so—called stallman break. and he does seem to think that it could possibly work . but you're right, the dup work. but you're right, the dup have drafted in lawyers to go through all of this. there are also about just how also questions about just how much unfettered access there

will through, these green will be through, these green lanes. know, not lanes. you know, they're not getting customs getting rid of customs arrangements even green arrangements even on the green lanes. arrangements even on the green lanes . and as you have suggested lanes. and as you have suggested , well, there are much bigger questions about the assembly's role in. all of this part of it must be said by westminster as well. and of course we have already about an already talked about this an awful role of the ecj, awful lot, the role of the ecj, it's be as a last it's meant be only as a last resort . what again that resort. what again does that really practically mean? and thatis really practically mean? and that is what the dup's concerns are . i think the government's are. i think the government's strategy on all of this would seems frankly to be working thus far is essentially to get else on board, to get the conservative behind this. clearly, the opposition parties are westminster , they are are in westminster, they are here in northern ireland and almost a slightly isolate the dup is the only people who might be objecting to this new protocol. adding to that , protocol. adding to that, there'll be lots more money chucked at northern ireland as an incentive as well. but no doubt the dup on pushovers ehhen doubt the dup on pushovers either. this is a party who didn't agree to the good friday agreement to with. they're agreement to agree with. they're very very good would very used to and very good would say. mean, in both ways i'd

say. i mean, in both ways i'd say. i mean, in both ways i'd say no to things and they would insist tonight that actually if they hadn't collapsed, they hadn't have collapsed, stormont wouldn't stormont rishi sunak wouldn't have half he have got half of what he achieved in those negotiations with still on line with ursula still on the line line . excellent. thank you very line. excellent. thank you very much indeed for that great summary. james sunderland , summary. james sunderland, conservative member of parliament for bracknell, joins me the studio. yes, i me here in the studio. yes, i mean, of course, the founder of the dup, the reverend ian paisley famously was very good at saying no. before i get your thoughts on perhaps why the dup might be on this but haven't been many days when a conservative prime minister has had good headlines for several years now was this morning it was a collective sigh of relief . the parliamentary conservative party this morning. agreed. i think relief is where we are right now. there's a sense of, i think also why ? because this has think also why? because this has been a very difficult issue . and been a very difficult issue. and the statement last night was profound. it was unprecedented. and you could have heard a pin drop in the chamber. there was a sense of all while, has it

really done this? yes, he has. the announcement came as a complete to of us complete surprise to most of us there. it supported by the there. it was supported by the snp, by labour by the snp, supported by labour by the lib dems and the dup of course. so the unknown at the moment. well of course the labour party and supported it because and the snp supported it because it brussels as it's good, they're going say it's they're always going to say it's good. you know, i the good. look, you know, i mean the terms of trade we were left with were abominable. you know, after january 31st, 2020. and we january the 31st, 2020. and we know that there's no point going back might question back on it. we might question bofis back on it. we might question boris johnson's , but there's boris johnson's, but there's no point. are where we are. he point. we are where we are. he ogmore eating at the moment. do you think they will genuinely take their lead from the dup or do you think even their. take their lead from the dup or do you think even their . a do you think even their. a number of them have won be over? i thought steve baker was particularly in the way in which he praised this deal. yes baker perhaps the most biggest critic of where we've been over the past few years , a real champion past few years, a real champion for the lg. he's come round and he's part of the deal and it's been brilliant in putting this together with amazing what the

ministry carol do. isn't it very cynical and nigel know the point making is that steve believes as the rest us do, it's a fantastic deal. the rest us do, it's a fantastic deal . it's a fantastic outcome. deal. it's a fantastic outcome. theidea deal. it's a fantastic outcome. the idea of having frictionless trade, no barriers to trade at all. trade flowing freely east to west . the irish sea all. trade flowing freely east to west. the irish sea is pretty, pretty big. you say that there still going to be forms to fill in. it's still not going to be, you know, like london trading, manchester. i mean, there be some differences there will be some differences but better in terms of but clearly better in terms of trade than it is now . do you? trade than it is now. do you? maybe this is an unfair question at this stage. do you believe when sunak says there is a veto that there really is a veto? i do believe it because he said it in the chamber. we know today that the thing called the stormont break is going to work. it that up to 30 employees can vote against any measure that the eu wants to impose upon northern ireland. but let's be clear 1700 laws ripped up barely 3% of what's going to be enforced in northern will be

applicable to the european. this is a massive result and i use the seismic this morning. this is a big result, the conservative party. but more importantly is a huge result for the union and for northern ireland. okay. now when you put your earpiece back in, because we're going to go back to ireland, we're going to be joined former colleague of joined by a former colleague of mine the european, jim mine in the european, jim alister, of course was an alister, who of course was an mep, now leads traditional union voice , a policy in northern voice, a policy in northern ireland. that's been very, very critical of much of the brexit deal critical of much of the brexit deal. but jim also , jim, also a deal. but jim also, jim, also a say jim on the legal basis here, how much does the winds framework actually change in law ? well, not enough, nigel, because northern ireland remains the only part of the united kingdom to be within the eu single market and therefore subject to a vast plethora of

laws which were brought in to enforce the single market. and of course that brings in the jurisdiction of the european court of justice. and to add to that, northern ireland is the only part of the united kingdom to continue to be subject to the eu's customs code . and that is eu's customs code. and that is why in council quins we have a border in the irish sea which will still be there and there will still be there and there will not be unfettered under this framework from gb because even every load of goods you have to supply to a foreign jurisdiction , the manifest of jurisdiction, the manifest of what's on your lorry of goods and before you that arrives in northern ireland, you have to supply a customs declaration to covering 21 different items of data. so there is no comparison between sending goods from london to glasgow and sending goods from london to belfast.

belfast because under the protocol it is treated as eu territory . we have to go through territory. we have to go through on the basis of the customs , on the basis of the customs, which is the gb, not a remained in that customs is treated as a foreign country and therefore are so. jim it is, i think the current i understand what you're saying. it is not completely unfettered . i said that before unfettered. i said that before i got you on the program. it is . got you on the program. it is. of course, there were a lot better than the current situation isn't with the current situation isn't with the current situation in was wholly punitive and deliberately by the eu and of course the other thing about remaining in the eu single market the long term consequence is that as gb diverge it admits its own rules for its market. northern ireland is tethered to the eu orbit and therefore becomes more and more detached

from it. myanmar and india and gb and detached from us position the united kingdom and is forced by dint of the single market rules, to enter and align with the eu's orbit . and in this the eu's orbit. and in this case, and particularly the repubuc case, and particularly the republic of ireland orbit, and therefore northern ireland slowly but surely is diverge from the united kingdom and. that may well be, and i think is the ultimate political of the protocol , but may well the ultimate political of the protocol, but may well be. jim, i understand those points. you make very, very clearly on the ecj. it fascinating, wasn't it, that when the rc journalists asked the question , refused to asked the question, refused to answer it , there was an answer it, there was an instinctive response from von der leyen that the ecj will still be the final arbiter about about that. there is no dispute at all the argument course that the government will make is it will be very rarely, etc. final thought, jim, from you . the thought, jim, from you. the document that was produced , the

document that was produced, the prime minister in his statement said there will be a veto know up to 30 mlas could raise an objection and ultimately see we can veto new eu law. do you believe that legally to be true ? there's no veto within stormont . a commentator here in stormont. a commentator here in northern ireland accurately described it. it means that someone sitting in the back of the car and say to the driver, would you be so kind as we appued would you be so kind as we applied the brake and the driver being the united kingdom government can in its own discretion decide to do so or not. the veto would rest with the united kingdom government, which on passport will be in no mood upset the eu. so i think the veto is a call a and a mirage rather than a reality . mirage rather than a reality. but fundamentally, okay , if but fundamentally, okay, if northern ireland is to continue as a party united kingdom, then we must be given the brexit that the rest of the uk kingdom got, rather than been left behind. as

we have been . this agreement we have been. this agreement does not diminish the fact that we have been left behind within the eu . jim will the we have been left behind within the eu .jim will the dpp agree the eu. jim will the dpp agree to this in your view ? i think it to this in your view? i think it would be very foolish to. they will be under immense pressure . will be under immense pressure. i think there are a number of prominent people who see the issues very clearly . i trust issues very clearly. i trust that they will stick to their guns, as it were , and not fall guns, as it were, and not fall foul of this because if they do, then make no mistake it northern ireland increase , they will ireland increase, they will drift apart from gb and you know, if you can create an all ireland economically which is the purpose of the protocol, it's a short step which is an all—ireland politically, and that's the intent of this protocol . jim alister , thank you protocol. jim alister, thank you very much indeed forjoining us. james sutherland, stay me through that. i mean, it's a pretty depressing story and he's

right , you know, they have been right, you know, they have been victimised in the most appalling part of the eu and i would agree on that. there is a point here though, isn't there, that if the united kingdom chooses, if we, britain choose to start diverging eu law, we will find ourselves being northern ireland allows will become further and further apart . we well let's not further apart. we well let's not run before , we can walk brexit run before, we can walk brexit is very complex. we know that very difficult this is about balancing but this is a long term decision that we're talking about. that's i'm really about. that's what i'm really saying. devil's in the saying. it is devil's in the detail. when you look at the detail, that's the deeper detail, that's what the deeper doing indeed doing right now is indeed illegal, is about illegal, but this is about balancing the pursuit of perfection against the application pragmatism. we've come way this deal. we're come a long way this deal. we're on a journey . so i suspect that on a journey. so i suspect that we've got further trodden still . but view is that this is . but my view is that this is a phantom tick, fantastic outcome at this point in time. i would hope the dup go for it too. on the real pressure to go for it. in my view, it's the right thing for the union. it's the right thing ireland. do thing for northern ireland. do you some of you have sympathy with some of the that jim allison just

the points that jim allison just made? yes, but we have the european got land european union. we've got a land border between southern and, of course, and course, northern ireland and this, view, is necessary this, in my view, is a necessary the small price to pay the 3% is a small price to pay for will be an effective for what will be an effective outcome, which is frictionless trade between and and trade between east and west and north and south never. trade between east and west and north and south never . say that north and south never. say that here on gb news you don't hear both sides of the argument because you do. in a moment an extraordinary i am personally delighted a court of appeal decision that ruled in favour of arron banks against karel cowell of the guardian. we'll tell you more in just a moment.

so your thoughts on will the deal you agree to what rishi has negotiated in the says not if the ecj remains as an employer.

hence the veto is nonsense . as hence the veto is nonsense. as nick says, no the dup won't agree this deal and neither should any unionist giving up any sovereignty in the uk . it's any sovereignty in the uk. it's not the job of the uk to protect the single market. if the eu wants to protect its market, put the border at ease , not slap the border at ease, not slap bangin the border at ease, not slap bang in the middle of the eu case market and only one of you thus far, sean, says deal is good.i thus far, sean, says deal is good. i have a funny feeling the dup will agree. i don't . i dup will agree. i don't. i honestly don't know what they're going to do. but it was interesting last night i thought kate hoey suggesting that if we cannot get back to any of devolved government in northern, then then actually westminster may have no choice but to go back to direct rule . now, in the back to direct rule. now, in the wake that referendum result in 2016 and indeed donald trump winning the presidency in america in november of that yean america in november of that year, there was absolute tidal

wave of conspiracy theory that somehow this could not have happened because the voters of the uk wanted to leave the european union or wanted donald j. trump in the white house. no, there must have been some grand behind it. and the easy one, of course, was russia. yes, it's russia . russian money and putin. russia. russian money and putin. what done it? now that is comprehensively been trashed in the usa ? but it's been one hell the usa? but it's been one hell of a battle here in this country . and the man that has borne the brunt of this, well, i'm one of them, but i just ignored it all. but i ran banks know who was a businessman, founder of leave doddie you major funder indeed to the brexit referendum campaign . you know he works in campaign. you know he works in business felt his reputation was being seriously damaged by this and he's been going a very, very lengthy legal case now in the high court. his libel claim against carol kabala ? well, in

against carol kabala? well, in a way, he failed because , the way, he failed because, the judge said, even though what she wrote true , she believed it to wrote true, she believed it to be true at the time that was a pubuc be true at the time that was a public interest and that no real damage had done to mr. banks . i damage had done to mr. banks. i found the judgement absolute , found the judgement absolute, utterly, truly astonishing and indeed very deeply . well, today indeed very deeply. well, today at court of appeal , the judge at court of appeal, the judge has made it very clear that , he has made it very clear that, he says, that having this case, i have concluded that the judge's errors have fatally undermined and her conclusion referring to the earlier judgement , he also the earlierjudgement, he also makes it clear that mr. banks has one damages. so you think on the face of it, a very major victory for our own banks . but victory for our own banks. but carol kavala, in reply said this case has been absurdity. after yes character . well, we would yes character. well, we would agree with you on that entirely. she then goes on to say, as even she then goes on to say, as

ever, bank and his henchmen, our desperately trying to clutch victory from the jaws of defeat absurd to suggest this in any way is a win for him. it's cost him way is a win for him. it's cost hi m £2 million to have a judge him £2 million to have a judge establish . he'd misled the establish. he'd misled the pubuc establish. he'd misled the public over his extensive relationship with kremlin officials. watch joining me on the line is one arron banks. arron good evening . good evening arron good evening. good evening nigel how are you ? very well. nigel how are you? very well. now before we get to what is kabala has been saying this for you . i'm kabala has been saying this for you. i'm guessing it's kabala has been saying this for you . i'm guessing it's been you. i'm guessing it's been a very long and i think quite exhausting expensive journey. but this court of appeal judgement . but this court of appeal judgement. give us your reaction to it, please . well, i'm to it, please. well, i'm delighted . vindication despite delighted. vindication despite what carol may have said on

twitter , after the after the twitter, after the after the judgement , the judge makes it judgement, the judge makes it perfectly clear that he found there was defamation. there was serious harm, and that she's going to have to pay damages . so going to have to pay damages. so i'm not quite sure how you spin into a victory for journalism. i mean, it was clear from the beginning that carol had no facts. she had a lot of conspiracy theories and i think the original. conspiracy theories and i think the original . yeah, i'm not the original. yeah, i'm not going to comment on that . but i going to comment on that. but i think the appeal court of right today, which is a fantastic and you were put through an extensive investigation by the electoral commission , a long electoral commission, a long investigation by national crime agency . how much damage investigation by national crime agency. how much damage banks did this do to you ? well, i mean did this do to you? well, i mean , obviously, business wise, it's not great to have a national crime agency investigation and to be under suspicion even

though i obviously knew it was nonsense . you know, you take a nonsense. you know, you take a situation where we freely admitted in a book, we write that we had the russian ambassador, maybe we shouldn't . ambassador, maybe we shouldn't. you know, with hindsight . but it you know, with hindsight. but it was at the time when government ministers were freely mixing in russian ministers. ministers were freely mixing in russian ministers . there wasn't russian ministers. there wasn't the same, you know , intensity the same, you know, intensity about it . but the same, you know, intensity about it. but i think, you the same, you know, intensity about it . but i think, you know, about it. but i think, you know, the stories she made up it came from the american thing as well , where they were trying to undermine legitimacy of, you know , the american election and know, the american election and brexit. and they came up with these wild stories. and then, of course, the politician does get onto the bandwagon . they write onto the bandwagon. they write to the national crime agency . i to the national crime agency. i think 50 mps said. i to the national crime agency. i think 50 mps said . i haven't think 50 mps said. i haven't seen many apologies from from those people that and it was complete nonsense from beginning to end. now in this defamation case. what's interesting is carol never sought to defend on the grounds it was true what she

said was that the judge ms. under misunderstood what she had said and that she she didn't mean it even though the night before the appeal court hearing she actually retweeted the defamation. so i think a lot of her own downfall was her own doing, because literally the day before the court hearing, she retweeted or the allegations of fresh , you know, pretty fresh, you know, pretty disgraceful . when i ran, i've disgraceful. when i ran, i've won a great victory in the court of appeal today. well done. you and i think the implications for anyone. thank you. involved in politics and no thank you . and politics and no thank you. and it just goes to show that any judgement in a court that says it's okay for to write things that simply not true if they believe it to be that i hope this never , ever happens and this never, ever happens and again , in a moment, we will talk again, in a moment, we will talk about why it is so difficult for us to deport serious dangerous criminals and those who file

asylum claims.

it's a truly shocking case. in december 20, 20, a plane was due to go to jamaica, taking with it 23 foreign criminals. but 67 members of parliament wrote a letter to say this is outrageous. it's the windrush scandal writ large and naomi campbell and other celebrities got involved to say this is absolutely beastly and the deportations didn't happen . deportations didn't happen. well, few months afterwards in, eliot. and if any of you've seen the video footage online of him fighting against another man with a machete in the street? it's all pretty brutal, and awful stuff. committed murder . awful stuff. committed murder. that murder would not have happened if he had been deported. but it isn't just him

, you know , just last week in , you know, just last week in glasgow , a failed african asylum glasgow, a failed african asylum was convicted of rape. he'll serve up to six years in prison. bobby moore probably less, the judge said when he's released, he faces a very high risk of deportation . hang on had a deportation. hang on had a failed asylum seeker being deported. this would never have happened. deported. this would never have happened . and i've got a long happened. and i've got a long list here of failed asylum seekers committing serious crimes . so whether it's foreign crimes. so whether it's foreign criminals , whether it's failed criminals, whether it's failed asylum seekers, we appear to be literally incapable of deporting almost anybody . i wonder why almost anybody. i wonder why this is. what have samson is, of course , an immigration lawyer course, an immigration lawyer and a regular on this show. course, an immigration lawyer and a regular on this show . why and a regular on this show. why i would why are we so i mean this case is ghastly but it's one of many why we say in britain. well we've strong laws to deport people . in fact, if to deport people. in fact, if you commit an offence which

carries 12 months or more imprisonment, it's automatic subject to human rights that. but there are maybe that's maybe that's the key. this case is exceptional because got this guilt factor for the windrush the windrush connection has something do with this case. i believe that felt that you know, that they were being victimised there but if you look on the balance how many people who win human rights claims go on to commit murder. human rights claims go on to commit murder . you have to look commit murder. you have to look at this in the balance, but i agree with you, if you commit serious criminal offence then you should be deported . the laws you should be deported. the laws are there to do that . article 5, are there to do that. article 5, one of the 71 act gives the home secretary powers to deport someone who continues to do pubuc someone who continues to do public good grounds again , if public good grounds again, if you commit an offence which carries more than 12 months of prison, automatic, which is the last time secretary was priti patel, was secretary at patel, she was home secretary at the time of this unless the elliott case and she says that she found up against a public opinion celebrities scores of

labour mps and human rights law. i i and i know you're a supporter of the concept and the principle of human rights, but doesn't it render us to do things if a judge you know, if somebody claim they've got a family connection here or whatever it is, isn't it time for a reappraisal. i haven't really what i'm saying. i look, i sympathise with the victims and his family obviously and cases this justify what you're saying but it's price we pay pay for freedom and rights of individuals against interference. it's sad i agree but it doesn't mean we just throw the whole of the legislation out but all these okay but these can be you know rights that we have within our own country or their given to us that are judged by the european court of human in strasbourg. shouldn't we be doing this? shouldn't we be doing this? shouldn't brexit, britain and a country that since magna carta has had a long tradition of actually doing this better than many other countries , we fit and

many other countries, we fit and capable of do this on our own. we are. but if we were to draft our own human rights act, it would mirror the human rights act. we have these principles are fundamental protections for every human being. yes but at least by uk lawyers, by way. but at least we're talking about ultimate arbiters in terms of the british relationship . at the british relationship. at least then the ultimate the ultimate arbiter would be our supreme, not a court in strasbourg. i've always said to you that if i'm going to challenge the government, i don't want that states court to look at my challenge. i'd much rather have an outside arbiter. if you're challenging a state, that's got to be fair. i've done i agree on many , but not this. i agree on many, but not this. but we'll debate this again and again and again and very interesting liberty suit. i made it very clear in the last night that we will stay part of a c, h r well, the for our moment, cricket is growing all over the world. there is now an international global tea t20 league and a new record was

established this week when the isle of man t10 nz cricket team, now this men's team , they've now this men's team, they've raced up from being 77th in the world to 39th in the world with convincing wins over romania, turkey , many others. they came turkey, many others. they came up against spain and they were bowled out in 8.4 overs for a grand total of ten spain. then went in to bat the first ball was a wide and a noble. went in to bat the first ball was a wide and a noble . the was a wide and a noble. the first real ball went for the second real ball went for six. it established a world record in many ways . the odd thing was the many ways. the odd thing was the isle of in the morning, it actually scored a very respectable hundred and 34 in that 20 overs. rotten luck isle of man. don't give up . keep of man. don't give up. keep going. in a moment, it's talking points. i'm going to be joined by tuft needle. now, he, of course a racing driver course, a former racing driver himself , but course, a former racing driver himself, but very much a big tv career in motorsport. we'll discuss all of that in just a

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it's that time of the night. yes, it's talking pints. tough night out joins me not needle needle. i got it right needle . i needle. i got it right needle. i got it right. cheers. very nice . now to the young tiff growing up and clearly just avid fanatic about speed motor racing cars engines was this i mean literally from the ground up my dad actually went to work the brooklands before the war. yeah. and so he was lured into those aero engine monsters go the brooklands banking and sadly, because that was closed with the factories, the aircraft factories, the aircraft factories after what i was brought, the fifties, the goodwood opened, he took me down to two goodwood and that i still remember the first time i climbed up a bigger bank

appeared the top and so appeared over the top and so these smelly colourful these how noisy smelly colourful machines people wrestled through the corners it all i wanted to be it was a racing. it was good but still does this stuff every yeah but still does this stuff every year. festival speed he year. the festival of speed he huge because i raced huge audience because i raced above race at every revival meeting so for me so nostalgic because i was the genuine sort of kid on the terrace that actually became the on the actually became the star on the pitch it's rare pitch because it's very rare with heroes as a kid with great heroes as a kid growing still he was jim clark. jim clark was what utter idol you know and but you know, living the wrong side of the living on the wrong side of the border in weybridge, surrey. but people of silver people always think of silver spoon, my spoon, daddy paid for it, but my daddy was useless. he was a naval designed and naval like, designed boats. and he to weybridge in he moved it to weybridge in about 1948 rented a flat . about 1948 and rented a flat. didn't want one of these mortgage things to tie him down. yeah he was the same flat for 20 years, so we lived , you know, years, so we lived, you know, sort of monty python's , you sort of monty python's, you know, i went to toledo castle in periods. no fridge, no , it's periods. no fridge, no, it's amazing. growing up in the fifties, how long, how different it is like a monty python, how

much the world is much world has changed. and my three young sons keep my feet on the ground. you know, mustn't go, you know, know, i mustn't go, you know, look to. anyway so you look back to. but anyway so you know, went off to go from know, i went off to go from being a young how do you i mean you i read a story that the you know i read a story that the first car that you race you actually of competition. actually one of the competition. yeah yeah this was a well i went down to the racing driving school brighton. all my school at brighton. all my savings borrowed savings when i was 17, borrowed mum's and went down. mum's thousand and went down. i did racing school, up did the racing school, ended up got for it, but i'd no got a feel for it, but i'd no chance of buying a car you know i thought one money to a i thought i sold one money to a got to millionaire or got to be a millionaire or preferably an arrest in way because school or something. but it's won this and it's it's won this car and it's magazine competition. so i won a formula the formula for racing. the autosport complete autosport magazine will complete the i was the trailer. so now i was a forever. i was a civil engineer trainee a university trainee and did a university course. for five years i was course. so for five years i was a civil engineer by day, mechanically, my little lock up garage night weekend of garage by night every weekend of the mechanic and the the driver, the mechanic and the racing and those days racing driver. and in those days you could it. that's that's you could do it. that's that's what's so beautiful about before science much more science made cars so much more

complex and so many different layers, of course of motor racing. so many different categories kind of went categories and you kind of went in car terms, went through every single of those gears three time because i kept to the formula for i got voted the most promising young british driver a bubble to the top of the national rankings, then got a professional with a43 team and then formula one scholarship. then a formula one scholarship. sports about durex, obviously very important to do. so and then i finally got that call to be on the grand prix that he briefly sadly but i got the grand prix drive that i dreamed of and it meant so to me and that must have been pretty incredible it was because, incredible what it was because, you didn't i was you know, i didn't think i was going it. there was going to get it. there was obviously something injured obviously something for injured that a short term deal. that was only a short term deal. but in those days, 30 cars used to turn up and knew the fastest. 24 got the grid. firstly 24 got the grid. so firstly to qualify. wasn't the qualify. yeah, and it wasn't the quickest they had decided that was it. i so chuffed was it. so i was so chuffed because i did that for the back row grid for the 1980 row with the grid for the 1980 belgian with that belgian girl break with that alongside me was one of my schoolboy heroes and. listen for fittipaldi, world champion.

schoolboy heroes and. listen for fittme.di, world champion. schoolboy heroes and. listen for fittme.di, w fittipaldi ipiofl. schoolboy heroes and. listen for fittme.di, w fittipaldi iton. so me emerson fittipaldi it was it a magic but. it was a magic moment but. i didn't get stuck into formula one, but there are luckily moved out and know, it felt a you out and you know, it felt a you had a bit an incident with had a bit of an incident with nigel double. nigel mansell. what a double. yeah that was later. that was. yes, was later when. we did yes, that was later when. we did touring cars together but. oh no when reach as you when you reach the top as you say, not stay there say, you might not stay there very but you reach the very long, but you reach the very long, but you reach the very then you to very top. but then you seem to get to extraordinary break get to this extraordinary break and start to into and you start to move into broadcast. know . and you're broadcast. i know. and you're teamed up with this extra ordinary fellow, murray walker. and i think i'm a sports nut. you know , i love all sports. you know, i love all sports. i can't help i always have. i always will and we all have favourite commentators on the football, the whatever. but somehow even into his eighties , somehow even into his eighties, of course, he beat an army officer on d—day yep, yep. he was much older than people realised he was, but somehow murray walker's enthuse the eyes of commentators on any form of

race. yeah. you are a very lucky man to be teamed up. one of the nicest men in the world. and if i did all my thing, my life was just a little by accident, you know, that car was luck and i was just still trying to be. what i wanted to be was a racing. and i got called into the commentary box. they didn't really any expert those really have any expert to those days, was one of first days, so i was one of the first expert analysts. they me next to murray walker. i mean, you know, so, did the little bit did so, so i did the little bit did the commentating. they talked about and stuff about the instance and stuff but the i that for the the fact that i did that for the bbc was what then led to my voice known to get top voice being known to get the top gig came accident as well. gig which came accident as well. yeah. on top gear yeah. and you on to top gear your pre clarkson your pre clarkson but you know clarkson joins quentin welsh and of course wilson joins and you were there it took off i mean just as this thing just and it's the beginning isn't it of top gear becoming extraordinary global brand what is it about that programme. i don't know. it's

just, you know, i've not only got the gig because chris broken ankle, so i did a one off. so i thought looks a bit boring is it you still so if i give it a kick so i've made the car slide. a lot of the producers are amazed i could do this and talk at the same time. i came back more and more and as a jeremy came in and brought amazing humour to brought this amazing humour to his presentations, he's like quentin came along, took a lot of second hand but of about second hand cars, but you just gel that it just you but it just gel that it just i think me to be driving cars and jeremy's humour and quentin's history quentin's amazing history and classic stuff. and of classic cars and stuff. and of course got vicky back behind course we got vicky back behind us other characters came us and other characters came in and mid mid—nineties it and in the mid mid—nineties it was and. clarkson was just huge. but and. clarkson what was he like work with? what was he like to work with? well, wonderful , baffling well, wonderful, baffling idiot like is . you know, you like he still is. you know, you you still resonate. yeah i still see football from southampton but he's chelsea so it's sort of a blast weekend at southampton beach. i know it's all that i chose to have a great time but i'm jeremy. he gets a bit of trouble, but it is easy. do it. but he's made some wonderful

television deals with cars and top gear and military documentaries. he made you know what i to say? the he what i have to say? the thing he did all of them. yeah his did on all of them. yeah his first father and i got victoria cross . the one was one of the cross. the one was one of the most astonishing programmes i've seen, is a very seen, and he clearly is a very brilliant. said to apologise brilliant. he said to apologise a recently. you know some a bit recently. you know some people go to far , some tell you people go to far, some tell you how you should lose character is going to be possible . you do all going to be possible. you do all of that, but then you finish up with your own fifth gear gig. yeah, i five which you did for year after year year. i mean you've had a very long career still going on love gloves on telly, but i mean , today's telly, but i mean, today's series doing love cars on the road and what is it tiff, that makes you work constantly just to the kid with cars and i think that's what comes through, i think that was the one i would test the car. i sort of people would never drive a ferrari or lamborghini or pagani zonda. i just feel like i'm bringing people old school boy enthusiasm. want enthusiasm. yes. and i want other that people other to understand that people that whatever. get the chance to drive i've always

drive those cars. i've always felt you with me felt i'm bringing you with me onto the telly and you know, it, it's enjoyable. i just like the enjoyable, know, it just enjoyable, you know, it just just i love one this season just no i love one this season where. what do you think. yeah this is the max versus lewis show again. it's a bit show biz now. the cars are very high tech roomy to too many areas of nemesis getting in charge. these cars can't follow. we have to have these stupid wings open at the back to overtake which people metre in like want the cars but it's a miss drive and survive it's become this sort of pantomime show that's on telly league well and it's a global brand massive it's just brand it's massive and it's just it's more but nowadays think it's more but nowadays i think a lot motorsport and other lot of motorsport and other events go event events you go to the event rather than to watch the race . rather than to watch the race. there's an aftershow today out . there's an aftershow today out. it's a day out of monaco. yeah the monaco is an awful place for grand prix , but they come social grand prix, but they come social stations right ? we get socially stations right? we get socially grown free. yeah, but what if i have to say? i have to say i'm not an anybody on talking points who clearly loves his job more

than you do and you share that with us but i thank you for it my pleasure thank you . okay. my pleasure thank you. okay. it's time for barrage. the barrage. you sending ? i've no barrage. you sending? i've no idea what they're going to be here goes right asks me is the windsor framework sunak maastricht moment. well you can view maastricht in many ways you could say that major achieved a great success or you can say that it paved the way for ukip and the great political rebellion that in our country i don't know whether the dup's are going to go for this or not. what i do think is that the opposition within , the opposition within, the conservative party has pretty much , from what i can see, much, from what i can see, melted away. des asks me , how's melted away. des asks me, how's charles iii sign? the end of the monarchy? not yet, des . but he monarchy? not yet, des. but he must not be dragged into

politics. he must not be dragged into a constitutional abomination , which i think is abomination, which i think is the sort of language that the next gb news host would use. jacob rees—mogg joins me. jacob first things first. we have a mutual love of cricket. oh, yes. i sat up till 3:00 this morning to watch us lose one run. we are a hold your soul. and i gave up when the eighth wicket fell. i thought , says i better value to thought, says i better value to get bed now, but i stuck with it. you've just been any rg meeting ? what is the mood of meeting? what is the mood of troops? well, if people listen, between eight and nine they may find out a little hint, a little hint. people are looking at the detail and that's important. we have learnt from maastricht that game setting match may be more a spin than reality. so this about the legal basis. that's absolutely right. yeah are we getting any nearer or is that going to take more time? that'll take time. it needs to be looked at thoroughly. they've issued

dozens and dozens of pages of documents. has issued documents. the eu has issued documents. the eu has issued documents aren't into documents that aren't into hardly the same as the documents issued by his majesty's government. how interesting. yeah one will run and run. what else ? tonight, jacob will be else? tonight, jacob will be coming up on your show. well, we're going to discussing we're going to be discussing cars motors cars and whether electric motors are any good or whether they break immediately and break down immediately and whether you're better off having a petrol engine. as i've a nice petrol engine. as i've got several nice got, i have got several nice petrol engines and we're going to discussing energy prices to be discussing energy prices because i had responsibility for them as basic sorry you did and introduced it. the wholesale price of natural gas, of oil. you know, we're back down at very reasonable levels. we the petrol pumps are beginning to catch up. i've also noticed that the diesel unleaded disparity is now down 12 1820 p, but we're still paying an awful lot of electricity, aren't we? we are . electricity, aren't we? we are. yes. well, i mean, this will be a longer discussion another time, but we all sorts of time, but we have all sorts of green and means that have green levies and means that have made all energy more expensive. city folks, it isn't just me.

i've not been filling your heads propaganda. it's true. we've loaded onto your energy bills. all sorts of excessive costs . all sorts of excessive costs. and it's all gone to very foreign companies that own wind farms or chinese producing blades . jacob is going to pick blades. jacob is going to pick up that . i'm done for now. back up that. i'm done for now. back with you at 7:00 tomorrow. first, though , all important first, though, all important weather . hi first, though, all important weather. hi there. it's aidan mcgivern here from the met office. cloudy and showery weather will continue for many of us over the next 24 hours. showers will ease later leading to a touch of frost some places, but for most it stays cloudy because this area of high pressure which is dominant across the uk at the moment is continuing to bring a feed of cloud and some showers in from the north sea. so the most frequent showers into the east and across central areas, a and across central areas, but a few of making their way few of them making their way into in the southwest. into wales in the southwest. however, and the however, the earliest and the longer of rain in do longer spells of rain in kent do tend move clear skies tend to move away clear skies moving here overnight with

moving in here overnight with the frost and western scotland. lengthy, clear spells . so frost lengthy, clear spells. so frost here as well. but where we keep the cloud 3 to 5 celsius on the thermometer as we start of wednesday and still got further showers to come, they're going to continue to feed into northern and england, southeast scotland, parts of wales, one or two the southwest of two into the southwest of england well. but actually by england as well. but actually by afternoon, of the showers afternoon, many of the showers ease. there'll be a better chance. ease. there'll be a better chance . some breaks in the cloud chance. some breaks in the cloud developing brighter spells, especially the south, especially towards the south, the west and more especially for western scotland. 7 to 10 celsius, not far from average for this time of year. but it'll feel more like three or four. on nonh feel more like three or four. on north sea coast, given the breeze , that will breeze, that breeze will continue . bring some showers continue. bring some showers into the north and of scotland, northern and eastern one or two into wales on wednesday nights . into wales on wednesday nights. that's the best chance . clear that's the best chance. clear spells is across southern counties of england, south wales, northern and western scotland. and it's here where see a frost as we start off . see a frost as we start off. otherwise 3 to 5 celsius, a very

similar picture compared with the last few. a lot of cloud feeding in and a few showers. however, thursday, i'm optimistic , does look like optimistic, does look like a brighter day for many, especially in the and later on for scotland as well. the cloud breaking up nicely. and by friday, many places will be looking sunny , although they'll looking sunny, although they'll still be areas of cloud floating about saturday, much colder weather sweeps into the far north .

good evening. you're with gb news. in a moment, headlines. but first, let's you up to date with the latest news headlines. and the prime minister has addressed tory backbenchers at the committee. this evening the 1922 committee. this evening after returning from his visit to northern ireland yesterday in an attempt to gather support his new brexit trade deal with the eu. rishi sunak says the windsor

framework addresses around the northern ireland protocol and he urged the dup return to power sharing . the deal removes sharing. the deal removes barriers on trade the irish sea, but it still includes a role for the european court of justice. well tory backbenchers and are still reviewing the detail. there is a significant eu law that comes along that will have lasting and significant on the everyday lives of people here in northern ireland. that the assembly will be allowed to pull the emergency brake simply crystal clear the uk government then does have an unequipped a co veto. and what i've said is that the uk government wants to sit down with the parties in northern ireland assembly to codhy northern ireland assembly to codify how the uk government would use that veto ? well, the would use that veto? well, the other main story today on gb news, a couple that went missing their newborn baby in january have been rearrested on suspicion of gross negligence manslaughter. constance marten and her mark gordon were found