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hello and welcome this. is calvin's common sense crusade me the reverend calvin robinson on your tv online and your wireless today. your tv online and your wireless today . we'll be discussing rishi today. we'll be discussing rishi sunak vows to stop small boat crossings sue gray may have broken civil service rules if she failed to declare . her she failed to declare. her meetings with labour and be delving into the latest from the files. but first, here's the news with sanchez . calvin, thank news with sanchez. calvin, thank you . good afternoon. it's 3:01. you. good afternoon. it's 3:01. this is the latest . the gb this is the latest. the gb newsroom, the former health secretary wanted to, quote, frighten the pants off. everyone according to leaked messages, sent during the covid pandemic , sent during the covid pandemic, the latest whatsapp conversation published in the sunday telegraph shows matt hancock discussing how to use another strain of the covid to scare the pubuc. strain of the covid to scare the public. shadow strain of the covid to scare the public . shadow work strain of the covid to scare the public. shadow work and pensions secretary . jonathan ashworth secretary. jonathan ashworth told us mr. hancock's political

career over. i think the key thing is, is that he is a councillor himself in front of an inquiry . it councillor himself in front of an inquiry. it comes back to this point , isn't it, why we this point, isn't it, why we need this inquiry to take place quickly . a lot of people lost quickly. a lot of people lost their lives . there's a lot of their lives. there's a lot of people who think the way in which lockdowns operate. it has had long term implications on all kinds of fronts. everybody wants an inquiry because everybody wants to be able to see the evidence to be able to debate it properly , calmly. and debate it properly, calmly. and it's why we need to get with it . rail passengers could their season ticket go up by hundreds of pounds from today .7 the of pounds from today? the largest train fare hike more than a decade. regulator ticket pnces than a decade. regulator ticket prices across england and, wales are rising by an average of 5.9. that's despite strikes and cancellations that have bought parts of the uk to a standstill. rail minister hugh merriman says the increase is below inflation. but labour has called it savage.

the independent's travel correspondent simon calder . it correspondent simon calder. it isn't fair with the level of service is currently being provided . the taxpayer who provided. the taxpayer who really doesn't want to pay more for what is quite a lousy service. we heard week for example that the number cancellations on the day is at the highest it's ever been since records began so people are quite frankly thinking, yeah, it's we're paying more and we're getting less . prince harry has getting less. prince harry has defended his previous use of drugs, saying some of them helped him mentally. during an interview , he spoke to trauma interview, he spoke to trauma expert dr. gabor motty, who diagnosed him with attention deficit disorder . diagnosed him with attention deficit disorder. in his memoir, spare . harry admitted taking spare. harry admitted taking drugs on regular basis, saying he used marijuana in 2015 whilst living in the grounds of kensington palace . covid vaccine kensington palace. covid vaccine manufacturer moderna has

announced new base will be built in oxfordshire. the moderna and technology centre will be based in harwell to do to help develop mri vaccines for respiratory diseases, including future variants covid. the move is set to create hundreds of jobs in construction as well as within the manufacturing facility , the manufacturing facility, which is expected to open in 2025. now clashes have broken out in athens between police and demonstrators over a train that killed 57 people. protesters held objects including petrol , held objects including petrol, while police responded tear gas and hand grenades following protests over the past days. thousands of university students and railway workers took to the streets to voice their anger over safety standards on. the rail network. more than 350 people were on board the when it crashed head on into freight train last tuesday . it's the train last tuesday. it's the deadliest train crash in history. while the has vowed to

investigate , improve rail safety investigate, improve rail safety . and than 100 nations have completed an historic pact to protect the world's . the legally protect the world's. the legally binding seas treaty aims to pit 30% of season to protect dead areas by 2030. very little of the high seas are subject to any with pollution and overfishing posing a growing threat environment groups say the agreement will help reverse marine losses and ensure sustained development , notably sustained development, notably pfisoner sustained development, notably prisoner charles bronson will make another bid to get out of jail this week in a public parole hearing . he's been behind parole hearing. he's been behind bars for most the last 50 years for crimes as hostage taking and armed robbery proceedings will be livestreamed on wednesday with a final behind closed doors on friday. he says he wants to be released to enjoy what's left of his life . the prince's of his life. the prince's

foundation founded by the king, has partnered with luxury fashion brand chanel to launch an embroidery course for students. six university graduates will be selected receiving bursaries for living costs during the 24 week programme held at the king's highgrove home in gloucestershire. it aims to equip, prepare aspiring designers . and venues across designers. and venues across england and wales will be open later over the king's weekend in may . pubs, later over the king's weekend in may. pubs, clubs and bars will serve for an extra 2 hours between the fifth and the 7th of may. the home secretary says it so that people can have the time , enjoy an extra pint or two. this is gb news will bring you more news as. it happens. now it's back to calvin .

it's back to calvin. hello and welcome to the common sense with me, calvin robinson . sense with me, calvin robinson. here's what's coming up this afternoon . enough is enough . afternoon. enough is enough. those are the words of home secretary suella braverman writing in the sun today as she and the prime minister to stop small boat crossings the channel by telling those who arrive quote, if you come here illegally you will not be able to stay. we've heard that before. then in the of the revelations coming out of the lockdown files this week, i spoke with historian dr. david starkey to discuss the history of civil liberties. that's coming up at 20 past. and, of course , be breaking down the course, be breaking down the latest findings . matt hancock's latest findings. matt hancock's leaked whatsapp messages. today, the telegraph revealed how the former health secretary hoped to shock public into with the ever changing lockdown rules. and of course, you can join in any of our discussions by emailing gb views at gbnews.uk or by tweeting at gp news desk .

tweeting at gp news desk. the prime minister is set to announce new laws to clamp down on migrant crossings sunak says he and senior aides the home office have drawn up new laws to stop lawyers using the right family life and legislation to combat modern slavery, stop their clients being deported . their clients being deported. and writing in the sun on sunday, secretary suella braverman says enough is enough. the british people want this solved . they're sick of tough solved. they're sick of tough talk and inadequate action. we must stop the boats, she said . must stop the boats, she said. the law would give powers to the home secretary to remove anyone who on a small boat as soon as reasonably practicable to rwanda or to a safe third party country. joining me now to discuss this is broadcaster darren grimes and former editor of the labour list, peter edwards. darren, this is an announcement about an announcement about an announcement , announcement about an announcement, is it announcement about an announcement , is it not? announcement about an

announcement, is it not? i mean, i'm sick and i'm bored. these announcements indeed. yes we hear this every other week. don't we know? i ultimately i mean , had a case in this country mean, had a case in this country where, an individual who we were set to deport wasn't actually because a bunch of party meps got together and said how outrageous, as they say, you know, human of this individual are breached . and he wasn't are breached. and he wasn't deported and he went to commit a very serious crime with a blade in this country. very serious crime with a blade in this country . and there are in this country. and there are instances like this where we're talking about an of , talking about an issue of, national security. and national security. calvin and don't think it's given the serious ness that acted with severity that it's actually required to keep the public safe. so the public watch and these are totally in step with kelvin and say, and i'm sick of heanng kelvin and say, and i'm sick of hearing fancy words and rhetoric on this. i want action . and i on this. i want action. and i think it's time that we got that and i'll come to you in a moment, peter, but i think you're spot on here, darren, in that the public don't feel safe the public seem to be sick and tired of all these announcements without to back it

without the action to back it up. it seems that priti up. but it seems that priti patel and suella braverman boris johnson the johnson and all the conservatives in touch conservatives that are in touch with the public know this. so what you think is the reason what do you think is the reason that nothing's happened far? that nothing's happened so far? well, we're about to well, i mean, we're about to get into about the into talk later on about the service. i do think that service. and i do think that there is a real stop gap in actually things done actually getting things done in the other the home office and other departments because. civil departments because. the civil service is swinging the left right. think that anyone right. they think that anyone who robust border who argues for robust border controls of controls is some kind of swivelling eyed bigot and there are so many ways in which even a conservative party with an 80 seat majority doesn't seem to able get a grip on britain's able to get a grip on britain's borders. you know, look borders. i mean, you know, look at southern right at the southern border right now. open than now. it's more open than a sponge. it's bizarre . pizza. sponge. it's bizarre. pizza. i want to have borders. i want illegal immigrants deported. i want to make sure our country safe. am i a hard right? bigots no. i don't seem a bigot, so i wouldn't pick up and down as points. i think darren is making things up essentially to suggest mp accusations any mp accusations have any suggestion interview suggestion in interview immigration not true . immigration cases is not true. the laws are passed by

parliament where there is a conservative majority and the law is enforced by police and the courts. so labour mp they can appeal just as always can appeal on behalf of individual cases. but it's not decided by members of parliament. so that is a nonsense in terms of what we've heard from the government today. it's trying to today. my is that it's trying to re a certain soundbite essentially that there's a small crisis so we're doing but there's already law against illegal immigrants. that's why called illegal migration . and called illegal migration. and then if government are trying to do anything that cuts across the un enforced rights to asylum , un enforced rights to asylum, they won't be allowed to challenged and probably defeated in court. finally, let's go back to which is the next five pages. one of the pledges wasn't to tackle the small boats crisis. the pledge was purely to pass some laws, which is a much narrower pledge. he's not saying i'll fix the small boat crisis. he's saying i'll pass laws in parliament. then something might happen afterwards. and i think this is sunday newspaper territory. tory so we've got to

say something . we've got to look say something. we've got to look tough. what does it actually lead to? okay. i with you that it's some red meat that they're throwing i want throwing out. but darren, i want to the opportunity to to give you the opportunity to reply because peter you're reply because peter said you're making stuff and it's making the stuff up and it's nonsense i mean, nonsense absolutely i mean, i handful. than handful. handful. more than a handful. kelvin party mps kelvin have labour party mps that did sign a calling on this bloke and to not be bloke and others to not be deported. to what peter's deported. it to what peter's chums party would chums in the labour party would actually do if they in actually do if they were in office which is the square root office which is the square root of not all to be frank when it comes to our borders how is that any difference the conservatives well, that. well, i agree with that. i accept that. think when you've accept that. i think when you've got a cooper home secretary got a cooper as home secretary standing with pollsters, virtue signalling saying refugees are welcome . well, actually, most of welcome. well, actually, most of these people coming over aren't refugees actually in the definition that they're people in britain would be willing to accept the economy . migrants in accept the economy. migrants in most cases and the labour, i think would be the champion of these economic migrants . these economic migrants. briefly, just so i stop in. without getting into tit for tat

for this, i'd rather you into something more constructive. peter. on war or on the un, you that we can't implement any laws because superior laws to because we have superior laws to our are cutting through our our that are cutting through our illegal immigration problem. how do get around well, that's do get around that? well, that's not what i britain not quite what i said. britain the british government can pass laws, but certain things that erode the rights of . asylum erode the rights of. asylum seekers, believe, will fall seekers, i believe, will fall foul of the un charter. put your question essentially what we question essentially what can we do think about do about. so i think about a year ago labour said have year ago labour said should have closer cooperation france. closer cooperation with france. now gone and now boris johnson has gone and liz gone. it looks like liz has gone. it looks like that's happening. and let's be partisan everything. rishi partisan about everything. rishi sunak establish sunak because work to establish a with a better relationship with the president france. i would say president of france. i would say that's britain is good that's good for britain is good france is good for safety. france and is good for safety. but maybe more with partners and, more actually trying to enforce the existing law rather than writing angry columns in sunday newspapers is the answer . darren, what do you think's the answer to this? well, look, i mean, we've given the french small millions and i think chanel you know makes chanel probably you know makes in think in any given. i think it's ridiculous to suggest that

president macron has an interest in actually not allowing boats to get into the english channel. right. france clearly doesn't want these people either. they are economic migrants seeking to get to britain , make a bit of get to britain, make a bit of money. and don't blame them money. and i don't blame them for to do but for wanting to do that. but ultimately we are a nation state that be enforce that should be able to enforce its own border policies . so its own border policies. so we've actually look at we've got to actually look at global outfits like the un and frankly like the ecj law and say that if brexit to mean anything, we've got to look leaving the ecj in particular because we can't have a border policy and enforce a border policy without doing so. for me, this was the point of brexit. we shouldn't have no laws from a foreign land are superseding laws in this land. if we say we want to deport immigrants. we should be able to do. our own able to do. so in our own country, without the european convention un saying convention or the un saying otherwise. well, britain can, but we're not replace asylum illegal immigration are different things it is britain i said illegal immigrants britain did say asylum britain can

remove illegal immigrants. there's separate point about challenges on asylum cases, but i don't think anyone reasonably could against challenging asylum rulings. but i think the only people conflating refugee claims and asylum seekers and illegal immigrants, all these human rights lawyers because , most of rights lawyers because, most of the illegal immigrants we're trying they're trying to deport, they're saying actually, refugees, actually, no, they're refugees, they're asylum seekers. that's where something where the conflation something that the problem that we need to address you both peter address the thank you both peter and be here for our and darren will be here for our next is about the next debate which is about the uk's senior civil servant. uk's most senior civil servant. says sue gray may have says the sue gray may have broken impartiality rules by secretly meeting with keir starmer, the permanent secretary at the department of education , at the department of education, ackland, who'd told civil servants the appointment of sue gray sickkids chief of staff , gray sickkids chief of staff, quote, is a real challenge to acting in a way that deserves retains the confidence of . retains the confidence of. ministers so i'm asking does she have point. still with me is broadcaster grimes and former editor of labour list peter

edwards . peter i, i could not edwards. peter i, i could not possibly be any less interested in the sue gray story. i don't know why we're still talking it this point. i think is massive destruction. what else is going on that we're not talking about? why is still in the headlines ? why is still in the headlines? well, i'll give you one example of something that really gets talked about i'd love to talk about another day and the rising and uncounted number, homeless people we get into people in britain as we get into another snap. know another cold snap. but, you know sue kind of top of the sue gray is kind of top of the news agenda. there's a lot of stuff and the sun stuff across and the sun newspapers stay well i'd say is first too i think should be great hire and you know was head of proprietary and ethics she wasn't head of rule book wasn't head of up the rule book and things my way she and doing things my own way she was of ethics but secondly was head of ethics but secondly and sure she'll be and i'm sure she'll be vindicated comes down vindicated i what it comes down to not the higher it'll be to is not the higher it'll be when she first had contact with the labour while still discharging try in a discharging how i would try in a civil and that's going civil service and that's going to come down timelines really and we'll hear more and honestly i'd we'll hear more aboutin and honestly i'd we'll hear more about in the next week or so we hope. darren what you think

would distracted right. would be distracted from right. well want to talk well look i mean i want to talk about the basket case that about what the basket case that is the british economy race and actually how that serves the interests people. interests of the british people. i think i think truss and i don't think i think truss and kwasi actually got some kwasi kwarteng actually got some things right in saying we things right in saying that we need for growth and i need to go for growth and i don't we're don't think we're serious conversations doing so at conversations about doing so at the sue gray why the sue gray story though? i think it because comes down to a point of , you comes down to a point of, you know, sue gray was , as peter know, sue gray was, as peter rightly says, she's had a top cheese when it came to ethics and government and all the rest of it and investigating the partygate allegations . boris partygate allegations. boris johnson, which let's not forget , was partly responsible for bringing a british prime minister it it smells too high heaven now it looks really wrong because as peter rightly says we don't know when the conversations with sir keir starmer actually started. i mean, sir keir starmer , there's mean, sir keir starmer, there's a man he made ten pledges to get elected as labour leader. he rolled back on all of those ,

rolled back on all of those, tried to get jeremy corbyn in office not once but twice. he then rolled back on that. he said he wanted to brexit so much, so that he was the architect of labour's denying second referendum policy . he's second referendum policy. he's now rolled back on that as well is there anything that this man will stand for, if you ask me? getting sue gray in is just one. so he controlled boris johnson, right i don't think it's anything down to two. great being a fantastic for the chief of staff. i think is all about winding up the conservative party and it's clearly working. let's upmanship ship. let's call one upmanship ship. is what it is. peter, is that what it is. peter, i what dan said it's nonsense. but i would say whatever the basis hold. no, not everything you just alluded. i want come just alluded. i want to come back to the sue gray point in the report because an element of rewriting history, not just from durham, but again across much of the and backbenchers the media and tory backbenchers today. a suggestion today. so there's a suggestion that an sue gray is that because an sue gray is transferred labour party that her partygate report is essentially devalued . but essentially devalued. but remember when the partygate report was published, boris johnson did not say isn't sue

gray wicket? she's being very tough on me . gray wicket? she's being very tough on me. he said the opposite. he said, i've been vindicated. so the report vindicated. so when the report was published johnson was published by johnson was happy findings he happy with the findings he should still be happy with the findings regardless gray findings regardless of sue gray his future career. when the report out , tory his future career. when the report out, tory mps, report came out, tory mps, particularly boris johnson were content . so it's therefore content. so it's therefore ludicrous to say the report that we accepted is helping us. several months ago no longer help us because a single word of it has not been changed. darren, really quickly, you mentioned ethics and i think that probably got more at point. got some more in at this point. but wider picture here is but the wider picture here is the service all being the civil service all day being politicised and that a good thing a bad thing? should we thing or a bad thing? should we just you know, be overt just go down, you know, be overt with politicisation? with your politicisation? well, look, trust in look, i think that trust in trust civil servants is going trust in civil servants is going to drop. think to massively drop. i think that's going on since four that's been going on since four years on so issues we've years now on so issues we've just been talking about the migrant seems be pushed migrant that seems to be pushed back of civil back in all levels of civil service i mean the home office civil take the civil actually try to take the government court over government to court over policies that they in place policies that they in place

policies are overwhelmingly policies that are overwhelmingly supported the british public supported by the british public . so i think you can . so i don't think you can actually deny there is an inherent biases within much of the civil service. don't get me wrong, members there wrong, fantastic members there as well. people that do their jobs don't their views jobs don't care for their views and actually want to deliver for the british people, ultimately for i'm with on that. for the crown. i'm with on that. thank you. darren, that was broadcaster and former broadcaster grimes and former editor labour peter editor of the labour list, peter edwards. for your edwards. thank you both for your time plenty more come. time today. plenty more to come. this common this afternoon on my common sense crusade after the break in wake of the revelations coming out of the lockdown files this week, with dr. david week, i spoke with dr. david starkey to discuss the history of civil liberties . that's of civil liberties. that's coming up at 24th. but first, let's have a look at the weather. hello there. i'm greg hurst and welcome to our latest broadcast from the met office. we do have so much colder air on the over next 24 hours or the way over next 24 hours or so. increase the risk snow, but frost and ice as well. looking at the bigger picture , we can at the bigger picture, we can see the darker blue is coming down from the arctic sweeping south through monday and into tuesday . very cold for the

tuesday. very cold air for the time of year, the start of spring, more like winter again out there this. this evening, though , will be some clear though, will be some clear spells, typically across eastern parts england, one or two parts of england, one or two mist and fog, patches forming dunng mist and fog, patches forming during early hours. during the early hours. elsewhere, cloudy risk of elsewhere, quite cloudy risk of some so was turning some showers. so was turning increasingly to snow across . increasingly to snow across. parts of with some ice parts of scotland with some ice form to temperatures falling close to if not below freezing here. elsewhere, again, temperatures close to freezing, perhaps patchy , where skies perhaps patchy, where skies remain clear to start monday morning, but a lot of cloud across england, wales, some showery outbreaks rain this weather here southwards weather system here southwards through the day behind turning much colder wintry showers, sleet and snow across scotland , sleet and snow across scotland, falling to some lower levels, leading to icy in places. sunny spells . and here, temperatures spells. and here, temperatures dropping away, falling to one or two celsius across parts of scotland , perhaps highs just scotland, perhaps highs just ahead of the frontal system of nine or ten degrees across the far south into the evening time . the weather front will start to slow across parts of wales,

the midlands into southern england and perhaps some longer spells of rain redevelop in here some sleet and snow hot , some sleet and snow hot, perhaps, too, as we move into the early hours of tuesday. elsewhere which obviously clearing skies, snow showers around areas, around coastal areas, temperatures minus five to possibly near minus ten celsius across scotland start tuesday morning, but a sunny start here cloud, we have outbreaks of rain, sleet and perhaps some snow across counties of england as well. want to watch over the next 24 hours or so. but the day ahead, plenty of sunny spells and wintry showers further that stay similar over the next few days. temperatures remaining below see you again .

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crusade. with me, calvin robinson on your tv online and on your wireless . this week, we on your wireless. this week, we have seen many revelations from the telegraph's exclusive lockdown files, stories , which lockdown files, stories, which are based on matt hancock's leaked whatsapp messages during the pandemic. i spoke leaked whatsapp messages during the pandemic . i spoke with the pandemic. i spoke with historian and broadcast doctor david starkey about this and what he has to say about this. pollitt . david boris johnson pollitt. david boris johnson used the analogy of to describe the covid pandemic and to justify the emergency powers he used for measures. how accurate was this analogy and do you think it was right that and proper parliamentary scrutiny was abandoned? and please , after was abandoned? and please, after all, did vote in the emergency powers ? i think the use of the powers? i think the use of the war analogy is where everything went wrong . the moment you claim went wrong. the moment you claim something is a war, you, as it were, say everybody should get behind it . were, say everybody should get behind it. this were, say everybody should get behind it . this is a matter of behind it. this is a matter of total national. dissent treason.

it is not the way that you conduct ordinary politics. and by the way , just just to find by the way, just just to find out that it seems to me to be exactly going wrong with how we're dealing the so called climate emergency . the moment climate emergency. the moment you claim it's an absolute emergency , that we are facing emergency, that we are facing a death circumstances that is a war on global warming . you stop war on global warming. you stop thinking , war on global warming. you stop thinking, you stop war on global warming. you stop thinking , you stop reflecting . thinking, you stop reflecting. you stop debating . you're you stop debating. you're telling the truth . we did all of telling the truth. we did all of that during . so i think the war that during. so i think the war is where you clear everything wrong. and because of course, i'm afraid something else goes along with that and you use propaganda the victim of war truth. and there's another which i think again we need to put your right up the upfront a state of permanent war was identified by george orwell in

1984 as how the document its control is the of that monstrous of 1984 which is permanent war. no one's quite sure in 1984 a big bit like covid actually whether the war is real , whether whether the war is real, whether the bombs are to fall, the rockets that are falling in london may actually be being dropped by the regime to maintain perpetual sense of and dangen maintain perpetual sense of and danger. and of course, 1984 is also about the sacrifice of truth. what is the ministry of propaganda called? it's called the ministry of truth, which lies whole of the time. and we had during lockdown , it's now had during lockdown, it's now clear, calvin, and it's profound oddly shocking is we government by lies . i deliberate calculated by lies. i deliberate calculated coordinate it keeps lies the lockdown files. i think of the most disgraceful set of docu

ments ever released , as it were, ments ever released, as it were, a british public life . they a british public life. they display an utter corrupt politics. interesting enough to know what again, one person you mentioned, boris johnson, one of very few people that with any kind of credit is johnson himself . kind of credit is johnson himself. there are kind of credit is johnson himself . there are two kind of credit is johnson himself. there are two things that strike about and that they're all whatsapp messages . they're all whatsapp messages. there are two things that strike about johnson messages. first, they are immeasurably more literate than everybody else's. here somebody who is reading god, i'm going to say astonishing about boris. here's some use reading is thinking is quickest izing the information that he's receiving but he's not doing it enough. he the confidence to it through. the other thing that's utterly shocking is this these the activities of a conservative government of a government that is supposedly committed . to the

is supposedly committed. to the two. britain to england towards punishing record of personal freedom to a light touch from the state to a police, which is not police state, but is supposedly an arm of the citizenry . and they're only to citizenry. and they're only to enforce the law not current government policy. all of those were simply thrown out of the window. this is because you have conservatives and afraid here bofisis conservatives and afraid here boris is as guilty. conservatives and afraid here boris is as guilty . everybody boris is as guilty. everybody else who aren't have got no grounding, have got no roots, don't really know why , that don't really know why, that there is grace . well, you there is grace. well, you touched on a lot of important topics there. the idea of perpetual war which . i would perpetual war which. i would suggest the west is engaging right now. the ministry of truth pushing forward propaganda . we pushing forward propaganda. we could look at the nudge unit and the trust of news initiative and all of that, but i think going back to the source of a lot of this government's not government, parliament gave the idea of being able to dissent gave up the idea of being able to challenge the government in

voting in these emergency powers. think they powers. why do you think they did the first place? did that in the first place? undermining proper parliamentary procedure for the simple reason it's war for the moment. remember in the second world war, ordinary democrat politics were suspended . you had a were suspended. you had a coalition government . everybody coalition government. everybody pulled in together because the important thing was to defeat the germans. i mean, really much responsible for everything that went as the government is . of went as the government is. of course, the opposition, the craven behaviour of keir starmer. keir starmer afraid as we know now, really lots . he we know now, really lots. he really loves control , we know now, really lots. he really loves control, running things. he was in his absolute element with lockdown, if you'll remember . element with lockdown, if you'll remember. every day he up and he called for more of it. he called for it to go on longer. he called for it to go on and be more intense. of course, mr. thing called the so—called science, which we can now see, was an utter panic stricken fabrication based on bad science

, worse mathematics and disgraceful argument argument . disgraceful argument argument. dr. david starkey with his thoughts. you can see the full video on, our youtube channel still with in the studio is former editor of the labour list, peter edwards. peter, what are thoughts on the are your thoughts on the comments made david starkey, comments made by david starkey, particularly starmer's stance particularly on starmer's stance on david's on lockdowns? well, david's a very clever man. he's saying some unwise things. i think some very unwise things. i think he devalues his cause by personalising it, saying starmer loves i mean, just loves control. i mean, just doesn't stand up to facts . let's doesn't stand up to facts. let's make a couple of points about lockdown of all. three years on for the first lockdown, there was a massive and continues to be a massive ferocious be a massive and ferocious debate hasn't split on debate and it hasn't split on party political lines. as you alluded to your intro. you alluded to in your intro. you the the labour party, the leader of the labour party, generally supporting lockdowns and majority of the public as and a majority of the public as well, and a majority public, but then the conservative then a split in the conservative party very terrier like party with very terrier like people like steve baker the i think it was a the covid research group . it's essentially research group. it's essentially

sceptics. the other point i'd make is there were lockdowns across the world, in britain , in across the world, in britain, in france, in italy, in america . france, in italy, in america. this is not some peculiarly phenomenon. it doesn't mean it's a good thing . but it's a good thing. but it's interesting that you challenged david starkey on ad hominem and then use hominem as against david starkey. that's fine. i haven't anything personal. haven't said anything personal. thank are thank you very much. you are with on tv radio and with gb news on tv radio and online. after the break, online. and after the break, i'll be breaking down the latest findings from matt hancock's leaked messages. today, findings from matt hancock's leaitelegraph messages. today, findings from matt hancock's leaitelegraph revealed ages. today, findings from matt hancock's leaitelegraph revealed how today, the telegraph revealed how former health secretary hopes to shock public into complying with the ever changing lockdown rules . now it's time for a check on those news headlines. on those news headlines. you on a sumptuous . calvin thank you very sumptuous. calvin thank you very much. 333 this is the latest from . the gb newsroom, the from. the gb newsroom, the former health secretary wanted to quote , frighten the pants off to quote, frighten the pants off the public . according to the public. according to a leaked whatsapp messages sent dunng leaked whatsapp messages sent during the covid pandemic , the during the covid pandemic, the latest whatsapp conversation published in the sunday

telegraph shows matt hancock discussing how to use another strain of the covid virus to scare the public . shadow work scare the public. shadow work and pensions secretary . jonathan and pensions secretary. jonathan ashworth told us hancock's political career over. i think the key is, is that he is a councillor in front of an inquiry . it councillor in front of an inquiry. it comes councillor in front of an inquiry . it comes back to councillor in front of an inquiry. it comes back to this point, isn't it why we need this inquiry to take place quickly . a inquiry to take place quickly. a lot of people lost their lives . lot of people lost their lives. there's a lot of people who think the way in which lockdowns operate . it has had long term operate. it has had long term implications on all kinds of fronts. everybody wants an inquiry . everybody wants to be inquiry. everybody wants to be able to see the evidence to be able to see the evidence to be able to see the evidence to be able to debate it properly and calmly. and it's why we need to get on with it . rail passengers get on with it. rail passengers could see season ticket go up by hundreds pounds from today in the largest fare hike for more than a decade. ticket prices across england , wales are rising across england, wales are rising by an average of 5.9, despite

strikes and cancellations that have bought parts of the uk to a standstill. rail minister hugh merriman says the increase is below inflation, but labour has called it savage . travel editor called it savage. travel editor at the sun, lisa minnow told us the government and rail have to look at attempting a type of traveller postpone demick got this one of the oldest railway systems in the world, but on top of that, you know, not a huge amount of investment has been put into it over the years and there's decades worth of investment that needs to be put into to get the services into them to get the services far more reliable that people far more reliable so that people are to rely are actually able to rely on railway system and use and feel they can use it without about ever to that point of ever getting to that point of destination and clashes have destination. and clashes have broken out in athens between police and demonstrators over a train crash that killed 57 people. thousands of university students and railway have taken to the streets . voice their to the streets. voice their anger over safety standards on the rail network. more than 350 people were on board the train

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gb news. welcome back to the common crusade. with me, calvin robinson on your tv online and on your wireless . the latest on your wireless. the latest leak from the lockdown files reveals that matt hancock suggested they, quote, patent frighten the pants off everyone . the then health secretary wasn't , the only one trying to wasn't, the only one trying to scare the public into compliance. the leaked messages show several members of mr. hancock's team wanted to use

lies, fear and guilt to make people obey . to give us a lies, fear and guilt to make people obey. to give us a quick outline of what's come out of this and gb news is gb news political reporter olivia utley . olivia. is this proof project fear? what is this? well it's not a good look for the government and for matt hancock in particular. i think one thing that hasn't been picked up on that hasn't been picked up on that much is not just the content of these messages, it's also the tone , these messages, also the tone, these messages, the sort of when simon case and matt hancock in a conversation and simon case thinks it's hilarious in quotes that a number of holidaymakers have been quarantined in shubert boxes, hotel rooms for having the audacity come over to the another element which has made me up that much , perhaps, given me up that much, perhaps, given that matt hancock's political career was already over, he's already said that he didn't want to stand at the next election. perhaps the biggest victim of the whole the biggest scalp of the lockdown files might be

simon case, the cabinet secretary, because there are a number of really quite worrying elements to the way that he behaved. he calls the prime minister a untrusted figure , minister a untrusted figure, which is not what you'd expect from the head of the civil service. he accused and it definitely was framed as an accusation. the business secretary of pure conservative ideology, when he was worried restrictions to the covid which would inflict more damage on the. and these are the sort of comments about elected politicians that one really wouldn't expect from a leading figure. leading civil servant, in fact. and of it comes at a time when we're already pressure and scrutiny on civil service because of the decision of sue gray to accept the role offered to her by keir starmer. gray to accept the role offered to her by keir starmer . there's to her by keir starmer. there's that comment this afternoon that's out isn't it, that he was saying that johnson, who was the prime minister at the time was a

nationally distrusted figure. now is that statement one an opinion? what he was opinion? well, what he was saying in context was that he saying in context it was that he felt that lockdown and messaging should be the face of lockdown , should be the face of lockdown, essentially shouldn't be the prime minister. it should be someone trusted rather than a universally distrusted figure like the prime minister. now that just however, however you whatever light you want to throw on it that does not seem to be an acceptable phrase for so servant of the crown to . so servant of the crown to. so it'll be very, very interesting to see if simon case this scandal and let's forget it's not the only scandal that simon case has been involved in he was cabinet secretary who oversaw appointment of richard sharpe who managed to broker that deal , if you can phrase it like that between a donor and, boris johnson. so there's already quite a bit of scrutiny on simon case and it'll be fascinating to

see whether he can survive this. i think it's interesting that his be the had the roles convenient you could almost say that was gb news his reporter olivia utley thank you very much olivia. now is the olivia. joining me now is the professor of evidence based at oxford university and a clinical epidemiologist, professor carl. you had an article published in the sunday express today. a fantastic by the way, thank you very much for that. you tell me what argument was. well what your argument was. well think the major issue here, as you see people setting the issues, i think we're all surprised , the tone, the content surprised, the tone, the content issues like the on affect of this. but the key here is to prevent this happening again. and what the key bit of the legislation i you mentioned it earlier, calvin , the coronavirus earlier, calvin, the coronavirus act put all of the responsibility , a few people's responsibility, a few people's hands in, particularly with those who shouted loud . and i those who shouted loud. and i know graeme brady made a big say of this in september, october 2020, trying to get some parliamentary debate . but when parliamentary debate. but when we look back in the light of day

in 2020, there were over 200 different measures . they were different measures. they were changing weekly , didn't know changing weekly, didn't know what the measures were, couldn't remember what they are. and in light of day, when you look back, it just is ridiculous. these repressive measures. therefore, what needs happen is we need to see change the legislation to prevent a coronavirus act ever happening again . and is a good example of again. and is a good example of is sweden because the government was not allowed to interfere with the government agents business in sweden . if they business in sweden. if they wanted to do that, they would have to have had parliament to look at the issues and change some of the laws . so we some of the laws. so we need a big push on because there's nothing to stop a matt hancock to if like in the future. professor do agree but i think the problem here is that the government took parliament out of the question anyway. they made this executive. it's entirely small executive. that was entirely unchallenged. i mean, piece i'm going to mean, the piece i'm going to read a small sentence from your article. we should also no

government persecute government can persecute citizens for lawfully expressing doubts its policies. the government powers that the government powers that the government shouldn't have because it broke our constitution. not the. constitution. it's not the. yeah. because what they said that public health wasn't fit for while it was fit for purpose , what they wanted to do was override with new legislation to create an executive right at the of cabinet office who can decisions on the fly . and that's decisions on the fly. and that's what has happened here is it's all gone to whatsapp usage and said what can we do by tomorrow . and then you've got everybody in politics having , a drink in politics having, a drink drinking. up new drinking. let's make up some new rules tomorrow. let's a rules tomorrow. let's have a rules tomorrow. let's have a rule of and there was no rule of six. and there was no debate to look at that issue. i'm sure if we'd have had parliamentary debate, we'd have been in been able look at this in a different light . now, key to all different light. now, key to all of this, in 2020, it's a mess guided view that you could suppress this virus out of exist . and that's where you get people going. we're going on a war footing . any virologist, any war footing. any virologist, any epidemiologist, any medical

worthy. so we looked at that very early on, that policy and said, i'm sorry. that is misguided. what happened is this so many overnight expert who thought they had the simplistic to suppress this out of that we went on this war footing and it's right about this idea is that somehow a sceptic is a bad to think about what a sceptic is . they're open minded. they can change viewpoints of mind and they to challenge the status and ask questions about ideas and beliefs. to be honest , the more beliefs. to be honest, the more sceptic in the world you know, they point to sceptics as hard right, which beyond a doubt is ridiculous but is this , you ridiculous but is this, you know, people are suggesting this could be limited hung out. is the bigger here not the bigger issue here not vaccine that the vaccine injuries that the situation with midazolam. what went on in the care homes. oh, these are not the bigger issues that we're not addressing because focussed so because we're focussed so much on we have been on the information we have been given well, given through this leak. well, look, there's big look, i think there's big questions when you see the

questions ask when you see the still heard the chap still people i heard the chap before about still got before talking about still got an about lockdown was an ideology about lockdown was working well lockdowns nothing for care homes and there's a big question to ask about what led to a third of deaths in care homes. i personally work in an urgent care gp. i can tell you in 2020 when i was going into care homes, completely abandonment of patients, lack of care , i was really concerned care, i was really concerned that the what i call individual who looks after the grandchild , who looks after the grandchild, the son, the daughter who goes in make sure the enduring completely disappeared and that really concerns me. second did nothing for hospital acquired . nothing for hospital acquired. we still need a investigation there to say were 40% of people still getting this in hospital locked down did nothing to . so locked down did nothing to. so you're right kelvin to say in the inquiry would you have can't take it as a done deal that lockdown somehow saved lives when actually they have potentially significant harmful effects that need investigations to look what's going on here.

thank very much for that that was professor of evidence medicine at oxford university and acclaimed clinical epidemiologist professor cole halligan. thank you very much your time today. still with me is former of the labour list, peter edwards . peter, how do you peter edwards. peter, how do you respond to what the professor said. i was concerned if someone is kind of tight with evidence base so there's so much opinion there than facts. and there rather than facts. and i just to make a couple of just want to make a couple of points. first of all, when we had lockdown in around had the lockdown in around december year and december 21, so a year and a half into the pandemic tells majority support for that . okay majority support for that. okay so that was majority support the idea that somehow this was forced the people with news majority backing for it just doesn't stack up . and then doesn't stack up. and then there's bit a narrative there's a bit of a narrative perhaps elements into perhaps across the elements into you heard in newspapers , you just heard in newspapers, perhaps like the express and so on. occasionally that we're being . but agree it being undemocratic. but agree it or not, but a politician and say passed these laws were elected by british public. you can say that a dictator elected that a dictator who's elected just someone's elected that a dictator who's elected just not someone's elected that a dictator who's elected just not sowhat e's elected that a dictator who's elected just not sowhat theylected that a dictator who's elected just not sowhat they do ed that a dictator who's elected just not sowhat they do is

does not mean what they do is democratic. thank anyway for democratic. but thank anyway for that that was that perspective. that was former labour former editor of the labour list, edwards. you list, peter edwards. thank you for today. before we for your time today. before we move on today, let's have a look at what you've to say about at what you've had to say about the we've discussed on the topics we've discussed on rishi to tackle rishi sunak's plan to tackle shadow andy says shadow migration. andy says if we our borders we can't control our borders because of the laws or the or because of the un laws or the or how two other countries do it, such as poland. thank you, andy, for raising that. if some for raising that. if only some of our politicians could look further countries further afield into countries like they are like poland, where they are doing things . danny doing fantastic things. danny says, how are we a sovereign nafion says, how are we a sovereign nation if a foreign, can overrule british law? indeed one of the reasons i voted for brexit was to protect our sovereignty. it's a shame politicians following politicians aren't following through says reasons through. daryl says the reasons . recent statement from rishi sunak sounds great. however, i do not think it will be implemented or happen. i think it will face too many stumbling blocks will struggle through parliament get blocked by. parliament and get blocked by. the lords, even if it gets that far, daryl, is still the human rights make sure that rights who will make sure that nothing happens. thank you nothing ever happens. thank you very for in your thoughts. very much for in your thoughts. please continue . do so. now of

please continue. do so. now of the venues which recently hosted a cabaret a drug style event for parents and young children has vowed to continue hosting shows despite a growing campaign against them online viewers and listeners of gb news will know my opinion on this matter. i think it's inappropriate for aduu think it's inappropriate for adult entertainment to be performed in front of babies and young but i wanted to young children, but i wanted to get different so get a different on this. so we've invited drag queen we've invited a drag queen vanity, yvonne glo, onto the show. tom, thank you much show. tom, thank you very much for nice be here. so for me. hello. nice be here. so this isn't the first conversation about appropriate behaviour that i've had with a man and a caller. so i'm looking forward to. interesting i won't get into that. what i will ask you is, do you think it's a for drug acts to performed in front of children? well, of all, of children? well, first of all, it's important for me to say, because made defence of because have made a defence of drag hour on this drag queen story hour on this channel and others in recent times on basis that drag times on the basis that drag queen time in the uk and the instances that i've seen it is not striptease style burlesque not a striptease style burlesque show. a different show. that's a different conversation from the cover of

cabaret conversation that's in the today , which i is the news today, which i think is what we're talking about. so i just make that there just to make that clear, there are different are slightly different i wouldn't recognising what the difference might be difference that might be striptease burlesque show which what the cover barbara has the videos that you've seen of people doing the splits croke people doing the splits in croke park stuff that's different park and stuff that's different from if i although i couldn't think of anything worse than reading children but if i reading to children but if i were read books to were to sit and read books to kids in an acceptable dress, that's of show. that's a different type of show. right | that's a different type of show. right i think there's a valid discussion about what's appropriate children appropriate for young children in a liberal society . appropriate for young children in a liberal society. but we also have a society where, parent parental is a factor when it comes to or not. their kids will listen to gangster or whether they're allowed to swear the house or watch 18 rated movies or drink at a family wedding. and i think for these mums are enjoying a cabaret show that they can take their babies to and have them present while okay to have a conversation about whether or that's appropriate. there's been a leap to this me feel uneasy and it's

an appropriate to the language of this is grooming this is paedophilia this is child abuse and that's the part of it that concerns me. okay i'm with you. so. so parents do a lot of responsibility. i agree with you on society as a whole also on that. society as a whole also has a bit of a responsibility to the but to the question of is this grooming, is this paedophilia. people paedophilia. i think people would is would ask, well, what is motivation? all these motivation? why all these burlesque strip style burlesque style, strip style acts front of acts being performed in front of children? kids say children? i mean, kids say parents there, parents shouldn't take there, but they in but why are they happening in the why would the the first place? why would the performers do that? well, performers want do that? well, careful not to on behalf careful not to speak on behalf of young mothers, i'm aware of young mothers, but i'm aware that mums attending that lot of the mums attending that lot of the mums attending that cabaret cabaret are of that cabaret cabaret are sick of reading the bus to reading the wheels on the bus to their you know, they've their kids. you know, they've been for two years been locked up for two years because a pandemic they were because of a pandemic they were gestating months. if gestating for nine months. if they and have a drink they want to go and have a drink with their fellow mums during the when they don't have to the day when they don't have to have and watch the have a babysitter and watch the type shows to watch type of shows they used to watch before had a baby. i can before they had a baby. so i can understand why, you know, 20 or 30 something, mum would enjoy the think is the show and would think is something going to

something that isn't going to have terrible lasting, have a terrible long, lasting, dramatic a baby dramatic effect on a baby who doesn't have a clue doesn't actually have a clue what it is that they're watching. you know, i know some of performers are of the performers that are involved particular show involved in this particular show and about the and i'm worried about the hyperbole around hyperbole suspicion around intentions what could they possibly want to do? they're performers. they enjoy performing know. i'm sure performing you know. i'm sure you would sympathise with this that are some people in the progressive left for whom it sticks in craw to death, sticks in their craw to death, to condemn the death threats that j.k. rowling faces. they just bring themselves to just can't bring themselves to condemn threats. condemn those death threats. i don't condemn death don't struggle to condemn death threats condemn the death threats and i condemn the death threats and i condemn the death threats from threats against these from people calling them and people that are calling them and groomers. would you be comfortable condemning that type of. should receive death of. nobody should receive death threats. absolutely the problem i is i can't on my on i face is that i can't on my on this show now . i cannot this tv show right now. i cannot show of footage of the show any of the footage of the stuff because it is stuff we're about because it is inappropriate for this time of day. i'm literally not legally allowed show well, that's allowed to show it. well, that's not however, people not because, however, people are taking toddlers , taking babies and toddlers, young these shows. young children to these shows. well, broadcast is to a well, a broadcast is held to a higher standard since upholds the high standard of. well,

the same high standard of. well, i think it's okay to have the discussion about that about what is the appropriate. you know, i wouldn't this type of show wouldn't do this type of show myself. perform myself. i don't perform striptease in my thank god , you striptease in my thank god, you know, i'm a singer, a pianist, comic, strangely enough. here i am defending to some extent these types of shows because even though i'm not involved them and it's not the type of show , do i think that that that show, do i think that that that there's almost a bad faith suspicion underpins the concern that people are expressing about it and that kind of worries me in a more broad societal because you know i face down cancel culture mobs myself. i think that cancel culture gives a free pass to righteous and that's what this has the flavour of for me i've campaigned heavily against cancel culture, however, i'd be very cautious of saying what you just said because it sounds we should always be sounds like we should always be suspicious want spent suspicious of that want spent time most time around drunk children, most especially they're half especially when they're half nude and or doing some kind of

burlesque act. of course, should be suspicious. be be suspicious. and to not be suspicious think would be suspicious think it would be negligent as adults what negligent of us as adults what is think ? also is it that you think? also interesting cause as a cabaret show i always am a cabaret artist, part of cabaret. i work but i imagine you perform for every teens . yeah, my shows are every teens. yeah, my shows are in bars and clubs in nightclubs. i'm do i do a lot of i'm in the i'll do i do a lot of weddings and sometimes weddings and there's sometimes kids but the type kids at weddings but the type of show do weddings i'm show you do at weddings i'm coming and singing celine coming out and singing celine dion, power of love and dion, the power of love and everybody well, just everybody cries. well, just one more before you more last question before you 90, more last question before you go, because there was a drag act that actually that performed well, actually taught ed a school and taught sex ed in a school and taught sex ed in a school and taught kids that the 73 genders and actually since get out saying there are two saying that there are two genders. you that's genders. do you think that's appropriate? well, the 72 genders isn't church genders thing isn't the church mean liberal society are mean in a liberal society are all allowed to our faith all allowed to have our faith systems. by the way of shania systems. my by the way of shania twain and so oh god i've got to move . but tom, thank you for move. but tom, thank you for sharing your perspective today. it's been very helpful. that was drag vanity von bulow . we drag queen vanity von bulow. we reached to the voter reached out to the voter festival. the organisers , the

festival. the organisers, the drug show. they gave this to some of the criticisms received. quote, we are aware of comments on social media at two kabab baba rave . part of the 2023 bolt baba rave. part of the 2023 bolt festival program . the cabaret festival program. the cabaret show is designed parents with sensory moments for babies and is a fun welcoming space for parents and with young babies. bolt festival exists to support life and artistic talent and, is proud to platform events that welcoming and accessible for all with audience safety. always as a top priority. stand against the inexcusable threats of violence and assault against all programs artists, our staff and directed at the lgbtq+ a—plus community and are supporting the affected artists . there's affected artists. there's another letter in there now . another letter in there now. week on the show. we like to end with a prayer and here is our collector for the second sunday in lent almighty god who ceased that we have no power of ourselves to help ourselves keep us both outwardly in our bodies

and inwardly our souls that we may be defended . all adversities may be defended. all adversities which may happen to the body and from all evil thoughts , which from all evil thoughts, which may assault and hurt the soul through jesus christ, our lord . through jesus christ, our lord. amen. you have been watching calvin's common sense with me. the reverend calvin robinson. i will be back next sunday at 3 pm. nana akua is up next. but p.m. nana akua is up next. but before that is the weather forecast . a week. forecast. have a good week. desmond hello there. i'm greg hurst and welcome to our latest broadcast from the met office. we do have so much colder air on the way over next 24 hours or so increase the risk of but frost andice increase the risk of but frost and ice as . well. looking at the and ice as. well. looking at the bigger picture and, we can see the darker blues coming down from arctic sweeping south through monday and into tuesday . very cold air to the time of yean . very cold air to the time of year, the start to springfield, more like winter again out there this. this evening, though there will be some clear spells typically across eastern parts of england, one or mist and of england, one or two mist and fog patches forming during the early hours. elsewhere, quite the some showers . so

the risk of some showers. so i was turning increasingly to snow across scotland with . across parts of scotland with. some ice will form to temperatures falling close to if not freezing here. not below freezing here. elsewhere temperatures as elsewhere again, temperatures as close to freezing, perhaps a patchy frost where skies remain clear to start monday morning. but a lot of cloud across england, some showery outbreaks of . this weather of rain. this weather system here pushes southwards through the behind heading much the day behind it's heading much colder. showers , sleet colder. wintry showers, sleet and snow across scotland, falling some lower levels leading icy in places. sunny leading to icy in places. sunny spells , too. and here, spells, too. and here, temperatures dropping away, falling to one or two celsius across parts of scotland. perhaps highs just ahead of the frontal system of nine or ten degrees across the far south into the evening . the weather into the evening. the weather front will start to slow down across parts of wales the midlands into southern england and perhaps some longer spells rain redeveloping here, some sleet , snow, perhaps to as we sleet, snow, perhaps to as we move into the early hours of tuesday . elsewhere with heavy tuesday. elsewhere with heavy clearing snow showers around coastal temperatures minus five to possibly near minus ten

celsius . scotland to start celsius. scotland to start tuesday morning. but a sunny start here cloud. we have outbreaks of rain, sleet and perhaps snow across seven counties of england as well. want to watch over the next 24 hours or so. but the day ahead of sunny spells of wintry showers north that stay similar over the next few days. temperatures remaining below. see you again .

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