tv Patrick Christys GB News March 6, 2023 3:00pm-6:01pm GMT
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yes a very good afternoon, everybody. patrick here on gb news and i'm with you until six, but i've got a box office first hour coming your way, so have a little look. so there's only really place start. really one place to start. ladies of ladies and gentlemen. that, of course, sunak's illegal course, is rishi sunak's illegal migrant . now, pretty migrant crackdown. now, pretty simple for rishi. he wants to make sure that anyone who comes here illegally cannot stay in the and not be allowed the uk and will not be allowed to asylum going forward. to claim asylum going forward. he stop the small boats he wants to stop the small boats crisis, some people are crisis, but some people are saying hang on a minute rishi that international that contravenes international law . how are that contravenes international law. how are you that contravenes international law . how are you to that contravenes international law. how are you to make law. how are you going to make it but the question it happen? but the question i want from ladies ,
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want to know from you ladies, gentlemen, is this okay? do think a human rights think that it's a human rights to come and live and work the united kingdom or actually is this a privilege? i'll get your e—mails coming on that, but not now. take a look at what we're doing next, okay. because are doing next, okay. because we are going life the scene going to be life from the scene of asylum hotel of an asylum seeker hotel protest . leicestershire locals protest. leicestershire locals are angry what they're are pretty angry what they're saying is that this hotel was commandeered they weren't consulted in 250 afghan asylum seekers have moved in they've got one gp practise, one local shop and that infrastructure simply cannot cope. we will be that story live . but back to that story live. but back to politics now . okay, because yes politics now. okay, because yes , matt hancock now the latest in a lockdown files is not pretty reading for poor old matt hancock, is it? what he sounds accused of now is essentially just this psychological warfare because did he try to scare us all into being compliant with his covid rules and regs by? coming up with a brand new variant is it psychological warfare ? other political news warfare? other political news that lives in just this is big
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sue gray . yes. the woman of the sue gray. yes. the woman of the hour now sue gray is going to be. it is anyway labour's new chief of staff and this opens up massive questions what will see a great relationship like with both keir starmer and the labour party. well she was that top civil servant charged with investigating politics. so make sure you stay here though , sure you stay here though, because at 330 we will be quizzing you live over to the house of commons for an urgent on just on hopefully . we'll get on just on hopefully. we'll get some answers. i don't think i have time for one more for you before the end of the hour now. well, it wouldn't be show well, it wouldn't be a show without, meghan, without, harry and meghan, would it? hot water. it? but harry in hot water. okay. prince harry is okay. so prince harry is basically saying essentially drugs helped mental health. drugs helped his mental health. people are saying, actually, harry, that's terrible thing harry, that's a terrible thing to drugs can be to say because drugs can be really mental really damaging your mental health death . just health and lead to death. just a little on meghan markle as little one. on meghan markle as well, very prominent black well, the very prominent black comedian chris rock has out swinging saying what? meghan markle from the royal family was , not racism. i will have all that coming your way. i'm much
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more happy monday, people. let's have it . i'm more happy monday, people. let's have it. i'm going give you the email address one more time, gbviews@gbnews.uk. pretty simple question today in light of everything that we're doing , everything that we're doing, immigration, do you think it is a human right to be able to come and live and work in britain? gbviews@gbnews.uk but right now it's headlines with the wonderful tamsin roberts . thank wonderful tamsin roberts. thank you. good afternoon from the gb news it's 3:03 former met police officer wayne cousins has been sentenced to a further 19 months in prison after pleading to three charges of indecent exposure. in one instance, the court heard how he was meant to be on duty and working home when he flashed at a woman a country lane just months before he murdered sarah everard . the 50 murdered sarah everard. the 50 year old is already serving a whole life sentence for the of
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ms. everard in 2021. in a statement the metropolitan police the latest crimes brought shame on us all at the service charity groups are warning thousands of asylum will be left permanently in limbo under proposed government plans to tackle small boats crossing channel the new legislation mean those who arrive on boats would prevented from claiming asylum and to be banned from returning to the uk. the government says it's getting a grip on illegal migration and promised more safe routes for seekers. it comes gb news can reveal more than 3000 people have crossed the channel so this year nearly double the year before. shadow home secretary cooper says the government isn't doing to fix the problem. we need action to stop the dangerous boat crossings that are putting lives at risk and also undermine border security. why we've called for new border police unit to after the criminal gangs that are really driving this as well as a new agreement with
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france and an overhaul the asylum system to end hotel use. but all we've got so far at the moment is just headlines from the government that look like they're a repeat of the headunes they're a repeat of the headlines they had around last year's bill, which just didn't work. and ended up making things worse . an investigation is worse. an investigation is underway after a car crash wales killed three people and seriously , two more. 21 year old seriously, two more. 21 year old steve smith , darcy ross and 24 steve smith, darcy ross and 24 year old rafael jason died in the accident. police say the group went missing after a night out on friday and were last seen in the hours of saturday morning. officers believe the car was involved a crash and came off the road, but it's not clear exactly that happened . clear exactly that happened. piers and mps are warning the prime minister strike bill is likely breach of the european convention on human rights. the proposal is aimed to ensure minimum working standards during industrial action across six
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sectors, including health, transport. but a by the cross—party joint committee on human rights has called the government to reconsider the legislation . the warning comes legislation. the warning comes as the union has called off the latest upcoming ambulance strikes in england in order to hold pay talks with the government. the industrial action had been due to take place today and on wednesday . place today and on wednesday. bofis place today and on wednesday. boris johnson has reportedly his father forward for a knighthood as part of his resignation honours list. the times reports stanley johnson has been nominated for the honour. the appointment raises after the former prime minister nominated his brother, joe johnson , a his brother, joe johnson, a penod his brother, joe johnson, a period in 2020. but the science secretary michelle donelan called the claims speculation and said were bigger fish to fry . no fact djokovic has been forced to withdraw the indian wells tennis tournament in california because of his covid
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vaccine status . international vaccine status. international visitors to the us are required to have received two jabs against coronavirus , but the against coronavirus, but the world number one is on vaccinated . the country's vaccinated. the country's restrictions are to end next month and the tennis star had been hoping for a special exemption as. been hoping for a special exemption as . the tournament exemption as. the tournament starts on wednesday . this is gb starts on wednesday. this is gb news. more for me shortly . now news. more for me shortly. now though, it's back to . though, it's back to. patrick okay. welcome back. now there's so much to get through, so let's get cracking . channel migrants get cracking. channel migrants illegally entering the uk will be removed them banned from be removed on them banned from any future return that's under new legislation sets to be revealed tomorrow . and more than revealed tomorrow. and more than 3000 people have crossed the engush 3000 people have crossed the english channel in small so far this nearly 6000 then to this year. nearly 6000 then to britain in similar fashion last yeah britain in similar fashion last year. but rishi sunak wants
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crack the small boats crisis and with it potentially of course secure the next election. now the government is expected to outline these plans , which it outline these plans, which it believes will get a grip on immigration. it would see people arriving on small boats removed the uk banned from ever really coming back and unable to apply for british citizenship. but charities have criticised move is unworkable and one which would leave thousands of migrants in limbo if sent to rwanda. the labour policy is question and the timing of the announcement suggesting . it's an announcement suggesting. it's an electoral tactic ahead of may's local elections in england. but a government source had this to say, and this what i'm asking you gb views at gbnews.uk the government source said it is not a human right to come and live and work britain. it be and work britain. it should be a and work britain. it should be a and i want to know what you make of that. but why it's all home security. has more on this security. ed has more on this for us now. rishi sunak for us now. so rishi sunak basically thinks this could crack the small boat crisis . crack the small boat crisis. well, no doubt that it's well, there's no doubt that it's a big issue as far as the electorate is concerned , and
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electorate is concerned, and they are very concerned about they are very concerned about the number of people who are crossing the english channel illegally on small boats. and don't forget , in the backs of don't forget, in the backs of lorries as well coming across the channel. so this is one solution that rishi sunak believes could be a real disincentive to deny people the opportunity to claim asylum this country and to ban them from ever claiming asylum in future. however last april i was at the airport in kent when the then prime minister , boris johnson , prime minister, boris johnson, proudly proclaimed the new that he had send asylum seekers that arrived by small boats to rwanda . this, we were told, would break the model of the people smugglers . what happened? we got smugglers. what happened? we got a record year in the number of people crossing by small boats and still 11 months on from that
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announcement . not a single announcement. not a single flight has left for rwanda. it's in legal action. yes indeed. and this is something we're going to be talking about a little bit later on. a lot of people have said, well, you would probably have international have to try to international law, take law, if you want to make take place. you maybe place. so how are you maybe going do that? the other thing is, on coming is, does rely on people coming by boat and then sending them specifically to rwanda. is that the only way that rishi sunak is saying that he's actually going be able to make this work? you know, the exact detail of how it will work has not been revealed . we're going to get more will work has not been revealed .we're going to get more in will work has not been revealed . we're going to get more in the .we're going to get more in the way of detail tomorrow . it is way of detail tomorrow. it is those arriving by irregular routes so coming across on small boats, coming in the backs of coming up the coast on a speedboat or , you know, landing speedboat or, you know, landing at a local on a on a, you know, at a local on a on a, you know, a small private aircraft , any a small private aircraft, any illegal entry into uk would qualify high for essentially
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then being assessed. yes. someone who is not eligible to claim asylum and there on in there would be a process to try to get rid of that person. they say as soon as practically possible . but how long is possible. but how long is practically possible because we know that people to get turned down for asylum for instance are then usually tied up in legal appeals through the court system for many many months, sometimes spanning years. indeed. now, shortly, we are going to go live to the scene of where a protest is expected to take place in a couple of hours time, actually outside a hotel in leicestershire. now there is around 250 asylum seekers from afghanistan. i suspect rishi sunakis afghanistan. i suspect rishi sunak is going to announce tomorrow is to be harder when it comes to sending people back from quite some quite safe countries like . albania, where countries like. albania, where we've seen a big influx . yeah, we've seen a big influx. yeah, we've seen a big influx. yeah, we have we have an issue at the moment with our many asylum seekers who have come across
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5000, almost 46,000 last year. there's 166 back log of applications that still have to be processed . what we understand be processed. what we understand is that they want a fast track system for those have come from known troubles spots that would probably likely qualify for asylum in the first place. afghanistan, iraq , several other afghanistan, iraq, several other countries may , after filling in countries may, after filling in a questionnaire find that they are accepted and into the system . i hesitate to use the word amnesty, but certainly a more of amnesty, but certainly a more of a fast track system . so therein a fast track system. so therein so they get rid of the backlog they can get them into proper work and accommodation out of the hotel accommodation system . the hotel accommodation system. then on top of that from on it won't matter if you come from afghanistan or iran where you come from. if you come on an
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irregular route illegally into the uk, you will not be eligible to claim . mark, thank you very, to claim. mark, thank you very, very much . mark why they don't very much. mark why they don't have any security. alison now, this is the one that we're leading with today. you can tell and i'll just emphasise there leading with today. you can tell and i'igovernmentasise there leading with today. you can tell and i'igovernment source iere leading with today. you can tell and i'igovernment source told the was a government source told the mail it is not a human mail that it is not a human right to come and live in work in the uk. it should be a privilege. i've been asking you what this what you think this gbviews@gbnews.uk . the emails gbviews@gbnews.uk. the emails are coming in thick and fast. i'm to over now to you i'm going to go over now to you lodge hotel or somewhere nearby is anyway in the small village of kag with leicestershire. of kag with in leicestershire. now is due to become now this hotel is due to become home to around 250 asylum seekers from . afghanistan. the seekers from. afghanistan. the protest will take place ahead of a parish council in the village. and we're going be on top of all of this. we have seen the protests, the hotels . they've protests, the hotels. they've not necessarily ended particularly let's cross particularly well let's cross over so gb news is his over now. so gb news is his midlands hollis midlands reporter will hollis who is actually outside the hotel us thank you very much. we'll just to me why this happening why are locals
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protesting protesting . yes well protesting protesting. yes well it's become a real familiar story hasn't it patrick. the use hotels to house asylum seekers often people that are war torn countries then the community discovering often only few moments a few days before the hotel is used and having an objection it so this is a part of north—west leicestershire is quite close to both the leicestershire border as well as nottinghamshire and. derbyshire is really close to east midlands airport as well and it is a small village, so only about 4000 or so people that here in caguas and eventually there will be 250 people, 250 asylum seekers that are going to using the hotel, which is just behind . they've actually started to bnngin . they've actually started to bring in some people already. i'm told a coach arrived i'm told that a coach arrived few days ago and at least 30 people are already using the hotel and they've been out in the community as well . people the community as well. people have been speaking to them, learning bit about
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learning a little bit about them. actually chatting them. i was actually chatting to one was telling me one gentleman, he was telling me that refugee from egypt . that he's a refugee from egypt. but i've also here and on but i've also been here and on the side from the people in this community do have objection community do have an objection is the reason that object is the reason that they object because they are a small village with i'm told, only one shop and one doctors at the hotel itself is also the local swimming also for the next year or so, while hotel is being used, people won't be able to go swimming. they won't be able to use the they won't be teach they won't be able to teach their children to swim more. their children how to swim more. so really about from so this is really about from what from some people what i've been from some people that they don't think that this is the right place . i've also is the right place. i've also been from other been hearing from the other side as a lady come up as though i had a lady come up to me who said, let these people come in here. let them become a part community, because come in here. let them become a pardon't community, because come in here. let them become a pardon't anything|nity, because come in here. let them become a pardon't anything aboutiecause come in here. let them become a pardon't anything about them; we don't anything about them. and we don't want to tell people before even know who we are, who they are. and i think that's quite interesting both on the side that may be quite positive and hopeful these people and hopeful that these people can maybe integrate into the community. they say we don't
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anything about them. but on the other as well, the other side, as well, from the people a little people that are maybe a little bit concerned , they also bit more concerned, they also say the same thing that we don't know anything about them . this know anything about them. this is the second protest. the first one last week that one had one was last week that one had what might describe as a what you might describe as a little bit of a trouble around it. two people were arrested. one man was arrested for and has since been charged for assaulting a police officer was 26 and he's going to be appearing magistrate court later on in march . there was also on in march. there was also a second gentleman who was charged with obstructing a he's about 54 years old and he's also going to be appearing in court. now all of this today centres around a pansh of this today centres around a parish council meeting which all know patrick is the smallest form of local government. parish council have very few powers , council have very few powers, and they certainly don't have the powers to stop hotel being used by the home office. now the home office says that it is of course, a temporary decision , £6 course, a temporary decision, £6 million a day to house asylum seekers in this way. but this
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does to be potentially because of the that we've been hearing today, maybe the final time, or at least of the last few times that we hear about hotels being used this way. that we hear about hotels being used this way . yeah, well, used in this way. yeah, well, thank you . quickly, would you thank you. quickly, would you mind just giving me a little bit of a timeline on this? because i understand the council understand the parish council meeting, place bit meeting, what might place a bit later itself start later the protest itself start a bit later. you just was know a bit later. you just was know a bit about when we can actually expect proceedings to get underway really sure thing so i know that this a programme that goes on for a few hours i think in the next hour or so you're going to be hearing from some of the local resident that are a little to little bit upset that's going to be o'clock, 5:00, the be about o'clock, then 5:00, the protest starts most people protest starts with most people coming from work and 6:00 there's going to be a of there's going to be a bit of a protest in the local market square town or village square in cape town or village centre. i should say. and then at 7:00, parish council at 7:00, the parish council actually starts there as well actually starts as there as well as about regular village as talking about regular village life . they're also going be life. they're also going to be talking bit about talking a little bit about what's here at what's been happening here at the . indeed. the local hotel. yeah, indeed. well, very, very much,
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well, thank very, very much, will hollis. and as he expertly said, we will be keeping you up to what goes on at to date with what goes on at that residents of that hotel. local residents of quite concerned to say the least, about it. let's get though an afghan perspective on story now and i am pleased to be joined by darius nasi who was joined by darius nasi me who was born in afghanistan and came to the in 1999 when he was just the uk in 1999 when he was just a few months old. now last year he the first british afghan to stand election for the conservative party . and as you conservative party. and as you could just see there, he joins me you very me the studio. thank you very much coming into the studio. much for coming into the studio. great have you the great to have you on the show what do make the fact what do you make of the fact that is just that local is not just allies ise in several different communities are very concerned about the influx of asylum seekers to that local area . well seekers to that local area. well i think this is a national problem. i fully empathise with both sides . i can see why both both sides. i can see why both are frustrated, but i think need to come up with a new solution . to come up with a new solution. i don't think the solution is to keep asylum seekers in hotels. some these asylum seekers some of these asylum seekers have in hotels over have been in hotels for over a year they're still for year now and they're still for the home office to process their
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asylum cases. it's the government's the home office needs to process these cases quicker . the conditions needs to process these cases quicker. the conditions in the hotels are very bad. you know, we're working with a number of bridging hotels of, we're working with a number of bridging hotels of , course bridging hotels of, course hounslow, both owen and elmbridge and we can see that you know children's has a falling out there's so many cases attempted suicide that cases of attempted suicide that needs to be a distinction between refugees and asylum seekers . so i was between refugees and asylum seekers. so i was on between refugees and asylum seekers . so i was on the one seekers. so i was on the one handi seekers. so i was on the one hand i understand the concerns of the local people but on the other hand i think the government needs speed up the process. process is broken process. the process is broken at the moment i know there is magic is a housing magic wand. there is a housing housing shortage, but do we move away from relying on bridging hotels? yeah, there is a lot of concern now in these areas . we concern now in these areas. we don't necessarily know exactly who these people are. and in fact, i was told we were all told initially that this was going to be a it would going to be a hotel. it would appear people appear specifically for people from we've already from afghanistan we've already heard reports there from afghanistan we've already hearone reports there from afghanistan we've already hearone chap reports there from afghanistan we've already hearone chap is eports there from afghanistan we've already hearone chap is going there from afghanistan we've already hearone chap is going around that one chap is going around saying that he's actually from eqypt saying that he's actually from egypt how you think
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egypt. i mean, how do you think the afghan community feels that if they are fleeing a genuine taliban oppression and they are seeing a lot of people potentially coming from safe countries using the same routes as they may be using some of the same excuses as that, more reasons that to try to claim asylum in this country are people from other areas giving afghan asylum seekers about nine? do you think? i think i think there were 10,000 afghans who were airlifted out of afghanis then and brought here to the uk and they're still you know, some of them are british nationals, some of them have british passports, some them have indefinite leave to remain . they're still, you know, . and they're still, you know, stuck hotels. stuck in these hotels. so i think we need to be very clear that the situation afghan refugees the same refugees is not the same refugees is not the same refugees from other countries. afghanistan policy because, you know, they're fleeing persecution. every persecution. they have every right their human to be right for their human to be respected . you know, if they're respected. you know, if they're fleeing persecution , have so fleeing persecution, have so many of people whose many cases of people whose who've still family members who've still got family members in afghanistan and they're being
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targeted by taliban, some of these afghan asylum seekers we're closely with the we're working closely with the british the british army, with the ex—servicemen . so would you ex—servicemen. so would you welcome sunak wants welcome what rishi sunak wants to do? apparently, he's going to announce tomorrow, which is announce this tomorrow, which is that , through announce this tomorrow, which is that kind , through announce this tomorrow, which is that kind illegal , through announce this tomorrow, which is that kind illegal or , through announce this tomorrow, which is thatkind illegal or irregulargh any kind of illegal or irregular route whatsoever, which potentially would even include people from afghanistan , will people from afghanistan, will from a particular date not be allowed to asylum in the uk. now or ever, or even come to visit. nobody comes to the uk unless they're desperate . leave their they're desperate. leave their country. nobody you know, nobody. nobody wants to come here unless nobody's willing to come to the uk to put children on boats to take such a dangerous journey unless they're facing some kind of persecution . i am now just wishing quietly that on that about young men on own coming over unaccompanied who say come from albania having through several safe countries . through several safe countries. well, i can't speak for the
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people other countries for example. but in the case of afghan people and you talked about rushdie's policy . afghan people and you talked about rushdie's policy. i about rushdie's new policy. i mean, policy recently, where mean, his policy recently, where he announced he will be removed of removing the interview from asylum application. yes, i think that actually it easier for a lot of asylum seekers to put their cases forward . but his their cases forward. but his recent policy to say that if you come to the uk by boat then you won't be allowed to make an asylum case. i think that contravenes international human rights because because actually lot of these asylum seekers, they didn't come the uk by boat, they didn't come the uk by boat, they came by plane . so you can't they came by plane. so you can't just and it's not really just say and it's not really about how you came to the uk everyone a unique situation everyone has a unique situation . alright look, thank very, . alright look, thank you very, very appreciate your very much. appreciate your coming into studio. was coming into the studio. that was danus coming into the studio. that was darius who was darius and see me there who was born afghanistan born in afghanistan came to the uk in 1999 is of course now standing for election for the conservative party. just reacting to a couple of big stories that there's rishi sunak someone coming along, coming forward cut on the forward to try to cut on the small boats crisis, sort out illegal and illegal immigration, etc. and also that hotel story that we're
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going to be protest going to be covering, protest set start outside a hotel in set to start outside a hotel in leicestershire will bring to you. up, we discuss you. but coming up, we discuss the leaked messages which suggest matt hancock wanted to frighten the pants off everyone with news . the new covid with news. the new covid variants. asking was that variants. i'm asking was that psychological warfare so in a couple of minutes
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okay welcome back now the week two of matt hancock's files it's been chronicled by the daily telegraph and other leaked whatsapp messages . he said whatsapp messages. he said dunng whatsapp messages. he said during the pandemic the lockdown files probably an easy way of putting it the most messages revealed suggestions that the former health secretary rejected advice from england's medical officer to replace the 14 day covid quarantine with . five days covid quarantine with. five days of testing. he thinks it imply the government had got it wrong. so we locked for so were we all locked down for longer to try to make it seem as though the government hadn't got it but this to me the
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it wrong. but this to me is the big because a lot of people big one because a lot of people were about at were shouting about this at the time. to time. he said he wanted to frighten pants off everyone frighten the pants off everyone about kent variant of covid. about the kent variant of covid. remember, there was a different variant every week at one stage he this supposedly to ensure he did this supposedly to ensure compliance with lockdown rules. now that some are arguing, it sounds of psychological warfare more this from our political editor darren mccaffrey lee, who joins us from westminster. darren, i think a lot of people will be very angry with the idea of a health secretary in the pandemic to frighten the pants off everyone into compliance with some variant what's going . with some variant what's going. on yeah some people are comparing it to kind of fear if you like today. clearly when you read some of the tones of what's in these whatsapp messages, whether it is matt hancock, matt hancock talking about frightening people or whether simon case, who's actually still the covidiots in this country, the covidiots in this country, the head of the civil service, effectively laughing people who ended up in hotel quarantine . ended up in hotel quarantine. clearly it is not a good look .
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clearly it is not a good look. now, there are lots of things that people say on whatsapp that. if it were made that. frankly, if it were made pubuc that. frankly, if it were made public not entirely public, i'm not entirely sure everyone feel really quite comfortable . but at the end of comfortable. but at the end of the day, this is the government making big decisions that clearly had an impact on every single on single person off and on this country . and while the country. and while the intention, i'm sure , actors intention, i'm sure, actors involved in all of the ministers and the civil servants would say, you know they were still acting in the even if the language involved or some of the messaging on internal whatsapps was a little coarse. but there will be a lot of people who feel very uncomfortable about this, and into that and it will bleed into that pubuc and it will bleed into that public about . whether public inquiry about. whether the government making the the government was making the right based right decisions based on the right decisions based on the right medical advice at the time. just a perfect time. i mean, just a perfect example released example. she's been released this lot on this afternoon and it was lot on files that were again, the government odds with government seems at odds with the advice the the medical advice for the medical seem be a bit medical advice seem be a bit more when it came to people more lax when it came to people seeing partners , people they seeing partners, people they didn't with but may have didn't live with but may have been relationships been in sexual relationships at the of the pandemic. the very start of the pandemic. the officer at the the chief medical officer at the time to suggesting that
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time seemed to suggesting that actually government really actually the government really shouldn't that shouldn't be imposing rules that people see other in those people cannot see other in those circumstances . in the end, circumstances. in the end, though, the government opted to advise to do . so. i advise people not to do. so. i think in the end, though, patrick big about these patrick big thing about these lockdown which take lockdown files which would take away yes it pulls back the away is yes it pulls back the curtain from and governments and it all looks quite ugly at the time. however, what i would suggest is we don't learn suggest is that we don't learn anything . the new in anything significant. the new in the sense i don't think anyone's been of blown away by been kind of blown away by what's these what's been said in these lockdown in regards to the lockdown files in regards to the actual content. we knew about all disagreements within all the disagreements within government whole series of government but a whole series of politics clearly the arguments about whether lockdowns are right have persisted right or wrong have persisted for a long time. and second thing would also add is thing i would also add is and this is the government's point of clearly matt of view clearly and matt hancock, these are also selective messages. selective whatsapp messages. there clearly there are 100,000 were clearly you're see all of them. you're going to see all of them. and so many would suggest that there be wider story there could be a wider story that quite seeing . that we're not quite seeing. well, quite possibly, well, yes, quite possibly, although i can't help but wonder whether not particular whether not a particular journalist ,
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whether not a particular journalist, a nuclear option that she might be about to press at another big at some point down another big story town today , and i'm story in town today, and i'm just giving a heads up on this to viewers, listeners, to our viewers, our listeners, because moment because potentially any moment we're going cut away and go we're going to cut away and go lie house of commons where lie the house of commons where there supposed urgent there is supposed be an urgent question question is on question and that question is on one. sue gray a lady who was in charge of old policy guys, the investigation who now appears is going to be the labour party's chief of staff . questions over chief of staff. questions over the civil service and whether or not are indeed impartial and about her links or otherwise to. sir keir starmer and the labour party , well, she was imposed party, well, she was imposed investigating . boris johnson and investigating. boris johnson and kate watson . latest from kate watson. latest from westminster . yeah clearly quite westminster. yeah clearly quite a lot of conservative mp . enough a lot of conservative mp. enough of them felt pretty angry about this to put forward this question in parliament to try and force labour to answer some questions on these questions and only for the government rather than the opposition. but than for the opposition. but clearly when it comes the this point, this much wider point about kind of impartiality
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within the civil service, many people think sue gray has crossed that line , being clearly crossed that line, being clearly the recognisable senior the most recognisable senior civil servant. but someone who's been at the senior end of civil service for long period service for a very long period of time , seemingly going move of time, seemingly going to move to the labour party. keir starmer was on the radio this morning, answer pretty morning, unable to answer pretty bafic morning, unable to answer pretty basic question about when discussions with sue gray first began. when they approached to see if they'd take on this job of the chief of staff , the of the chief of staff, the labour party. he says it was a while ago, clearly just want to get into a timetable. i'm not entirely sure why if he's got nothing to hide, which he insists he doesn't. but yeah, for the party, obviously they very about all of this. very angry about all of this. they that impinges her they feel that it impinges her lockdown others would lockdown reports others would suggest you know boris johnson didn't simply resign on that evidence but clearly want questions from labour and at the moments labour not necessarily literally willing to answer all of them . yes, indeed. darren, of them. yes, indeed. darren, thank you very, very much, darren mccaffrey, our political in westminster and surely going
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to be going back to westminster to be going back to westminster to the house of where we to the house of commons where we will hopefully taking an will hopefully taking live an urgent on sue gray. now urgent question on sue gray. now i've been going into your inbox throughout of this . throughout the course of this. i'm to read some i'm going to have to read some emails back emails out when i come back though, people, i am out though, people, because i am out of minute. that of time at that minute. but that big got you big question and it's got you all is it a human right to all going is it a human right to be to and live and work in be able to and live and work in the united kingdom? or a the united kingdom? or is it a privilege light of this privilege in light of this topic, i'll be talking about very immigration very shortly with an immigration lawyer sunak's plan to end lawyer about sunak's plan to end the migrant crisis. i want know if those proposals are going to work. i to know as well whether or anyone does have or not anyone does have a natural rights come to natural human rights come to live work here in the uk and live and work here in the uk and get of this. harry get a load of this. harry and meghan go the meghan, will they go to the king's coronation? a couple. they invited . we will they have been invited. we will discuss that and have hundreds revelation that cocaine revelation that he used cocaine , marijuana and a hallucinogen drug. he's been slammed for that motorist and people. i will also be crossing live as i've said to the commons , we're the house of commons, we're expecting urgent question expecting an urgent question about. party's about. the labour party's appointment sue gray as chief
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appointment of sue gray as chief of staff. so keep your eyes and ears peeled. tamsin roberts now though, headlines . though, with the headlines. patrick thank you. it's 332. here is the latest . the gb here is the latest. the gb newsroom former police officer wayne cousins has been sentenced to a further 19 months in prison after pleading guilty to three charges of indecent . and in one charges of indecent. and in one instance, a court heard how he was meant to be on duty and working home when he flashed a woman in a country lane just months before he murdered sarah everard . the 50 year old is everard. the 50 year old is already serving a whole life sentence for the murder . sarah sentence for the murder. sarah everard in 2021. well just cross now to the house commons where conservative mp robert buckland is asking urgent question about sue gray . i was quite surprised sue gray. i was quite surprised by the number of urgent requests . well, no, not surprised or not, but i was surprised all of the same wording and the same sentence . i've only said that .
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sentence. i've only said that. can i just say to the house whichever side it comes from , i whichever side it comes from, i will be moved by much lobbying. i was more impressed by the individual ones i took that took the time to express . it was the time to express. it was important not a one line sentence signed by members in the house. so please don't my lobbying again. no is don't come for the time to call sir robert butland to ask his urgent question sir robert thank you mr. speaker to my right honourable friend paymaster general make a statement on the impartiality of the civil service in light the proposed appointment of the second permanent secretary to for department up housing and communities as chief of staff to the leader of the opposition opposition . thank you, mr. opposition. thank you, mr. speaker . i opposition. thank you, mr. speaker. i can confirm following a media report the previous day
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sue gray formally second permanent secretary andy larkin at the cabinet resigned for the civil service on thursday, the 2nd of march. this resignation accepted with immediate effect on friday, the 3rd of march. a statement from the opposition announced that the labour party had sue gray the role of chief of staff to the leader of , the of staff to the leader of, the opposition, the house recognise that this is an exceptional situation . it is unprecedented situation. it is unprecedented for a serving permanent secretary to resign, to seek to take a senior position, working for the leader of the opposition . as honourable members will expect . the cabinet office is expect. the cabinet office is looking into the second sources leading to grey's resignation in order to update the relevant civil service ministers of facts subsequent . to that, i will subsequent. to that, i will update the house appropriately if way of background, to inform honourable members. there are four pertinent set of rules and guidance for civil servants in relation to this issue . first,
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relation to this issue. first, under the civil service code, every civil servant is expected to uphold the civil service core values which include . the code values which include. the code states, civil servants must act in a way that deserves and retains the confidence of ministers . and secondly for very ministers. and secondly for very senior civil servants . rules senior civil servants. rules apply when they wish to leave the service . permanent the service. permanent secretaries are to the business appointments process , which for appointments process, which for most senior leavers administered by acoba. the advisory on business appointments , they business appointments, they provide advice to the prime minister, who is the ultimate decision in cases of the most senior civil servants, was the prime minister has agreed the conditions and the appointment is taken up . acoba publishes a is taken up. acoba publishes a letter to the applicant on their website . the business rules form website. the business rules form part of civil servants contracts of employment . the rules state of employment. the rules state that approval must be obtained
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pnor that approval must be obtained prior to a job offer being announced . the cabinet office announced. the cabinet office has not as yet been informed that the relevant notification to acoba has been made to. thirdly, civil servants must follow guidance on the declaration of management of outside interests. they are required on an ongoing basis to declare and manage any outside interests which may give rise an actual or perceived conflict of interest . finally, the interest. finally, the directorate of civil service guidance states the contact between senior civil servants and leading members of the opposition parties should be with ministers having set out the relevant rules. mr. speaker , let me finish by saying that regardless of details of the specific situation , i understand specific situation, i understand why members of this house and eminent commentators outside have raised concerns . the have raised concerns. the impartiality and perceived of the civil service is
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constitutionally vital to the conduct of the government . and i conduct of the government. and i am certain senior civil servants are aware of the importance of it being maintained. ministers must be able to speak to their officials from a position of absolute trust . and so it is the absolute trust. and so it is the responsibility of everyone in this house to preserve and support the impartiality of, this house to preserve and support the impartiality of , the support the impartiality of, the civil service . mr. speaker to civil service. mr. speaker to echo my right honourable friend's comments, many of us are indeed surprise and frankly deeply disappointed about the particular circumstances that have emerged. this is not about the character of quality of sue gray having had the pleasure of working with her over a number of years. i can testify along with many others , to those with many others, to those qualities . with many others, to those qualities. this is as my right honourable friend has said , honourable friend has said, about an issue of fundamental
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trust that has to exist between impartial servants up to the highest level until . we are highest level until. we are deaung highest level until. we are dealing with a permanent secretary speaker on, the ministers whom they sued. that has been the position since at least the northcott trevelyan report of the 19th century and must be to be the position in future , particularly if the future, particularly if the party opposite is serious about wishing to achieve power and if this government isn't to defend that , then the of the leader of that, then the of the leader of the opposition suggest that he is not prepared to . defend. i am is not prepared to. defend. i am grateful to my right honourable for clarifying the position with the application to. will he confirm that this appointment if indeedit confirm that this appointment if indeed it is to be taken up, cannot be taken up until it is formally approved. following advice from that committee . and
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advice from that committee. and secondly, is it correct that the prevailing acoba advice for civil servants has a potential waiting of between three months andindeed waiting of between three months and indeed up to two years? thirdly will a lobbying prohibition be imposed in this case? and finally, will a restriction , the passage of restriction, the passage of official information to the party opposite imposed in this instance. i say again, mr. deputy speaker , trust and deputy speaker, trust and impartiality are vital. if this of government is to work . i of government is to work. i would hope that in this case those issues will be defended . those issues will be defended. and i thank mike. all right. well, gentlemen , was a well, gentlemen, was a fascinating exchange, wasn't it, in the house of commons that i'm just going to run you through that. so that was an urgent question based around sue gray was the top civil servant in charge investigating party charge of investigating party guy conducting reports into guy conducting the reports into the who is it would any way a
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bounce to go over become the labour party's of staff. we all were talking about this in the media probably our homes as well about the questions this raised about the questions this raised about impartiality the civil about impartiality of the civil and well what he she may and also as well what he she may or may not had to the labour party and keir starmer throughout her time in position now some interesting detail that emerged from that and i'm going to outline a few of these bits and bobs for you here. so she resigned from civil service resigned from the civil service on. march we on. the 2nd of march is what we were the house of were told in the house of commons labour commons that labour then announced they'd offered a announced they'd offered her a job march. what job on the 3rd of march. what was is that there four was is that there are four key rules basically rules apparently that basically govern of govern people at the kind of level civil service that level in the civil service that sue operating as the sue gray was operating as the civil code , the core civil service code, the core values of impartiality , civil values of impartiality, civil servants that must act in a way that maintains the confidence of their ministers. the ministers who are essentially responsible for them, that they are working for them, that they are working for for and ones the rules apply as well. when it to business appointments, need to go appointments, they need to go through due process and is i think is a really fascinating
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one was the one one because this was the one that out me that really stood out for me anyway the rules that an anyway was the rules that an approval get another job basically must be obtained prior . it's about a job offer being announced and the job offer for sue gray was by the labour party, according to what we just heard in the house of commons, there, the cabinet office has not been informed by sue not yet been informed by sue gray that would at least gray so that would at least appear on face of it. and there will be an investigation into this, but it would appear in the face of as that face of it as though that clearly that rule we clearly contravenes that rule we await more information on that declaration of management of outside interests conflict of interest. is the other big interest. this is the other big one was sue gray in any way does she have a conflict of interest? that's they're trying to find out were her links or out now what were her links or otherwise. course the labour otherwise. of course the labour party to sir starmer . and party to sir keir starmer. and again the final one had no contact between senior civil servants and the opposition parties should be cleared before takes place. so again it's that what contact was that if there was any what comes was there pnor was any what comes was there prior to sue gray departure
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essentially what they're looking now is whether or not it's broken the rules and whether or not sue grey's departure has broken the rules. and another thing just finally on this before move on about keir before we move on is about keir starmer that was alluded twice in the house of commons what we just heard that which is that the leader the opposition also has a duty to try to uphold the standard . and so keir starmer standard. and so keir starmer did he at all times make sure that in his approach sue gray or whatever took place that that he was upholding those standards . was upholding those standards. so that's where we are with this particular debate now. it is particular debate now. and it is indeed gray and those indeed the sue gray and those urgent questions will no doubt come thick and fast . make sure come thick and fast. make sure you stay tuned here on gb news because we will be giving you updates on that as and when they happen. the break, i happen. but after the break, i have got an immigration lawyer who take rishi who will give his take on rishi sunak's the small sunak's bid to end the small boats crisis. look, rishi sunak thinks might have cracked it, thinks he might have cracked it, okay? as ever, massive okay? but as ever, massive controversy around it. i will see you
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in two. yes back now. let's see if you've been getting in touch on the topic that i'm going to be interviewing a rights lawyer on. next is sunak's big plan. his grand plan, he's trying to stop the small boats crisis and frankly down on other forms frankly cut down on other forms , illegal immigration as well. i'm going to whiz through , illegal immigration as well. i'm gist|g to whiz through , illegal immigration as well. i'm gist ofto whiz through , illegal immigration as well. i'm gist of it.nhiz through , illegal immigration as well. i'm gist of it.nhiz which ugh the gist of it. okay. which anyone through anyone who arrives through illegal routes that could be small boats, the back , the small boats, the back, the lorries, will turned lorries, whatever will turned down from a allowed to stay, not be able to claim asylum in the future. all come to visit britain basically . so that's britain basically. so that's kind of where we are with it. he's saying be the he's saying it will be the ultimate deterrent the question marks over such as would marks hang over such as would this break international law and where deporting them where are you deporting them too? so he's going to have to overcome line overcome hurdles. but the line that came for me today, and this is what i've been asking to is what i've been asking you to get with, very get in touch with, and i'm very grateful have grateful so many of you have actually is whether or it's actually is whether or not it's actually is whether or not it's a right to come and live a human right to come and live and work in uk or a
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and work in the uk or a privilege. that was a put privilege. that was a line put out by a government source earlier said a earlier who said it's not a human right come and live and earlier who said it's not a huthe| right come and live and earlier who said it's not a huthe uk|ht come and live and earlier who said it's not a huthe uk it: come and live and earlier who said it's not a huthe uk it should|e and live and earlier who said it's not a huthe uk it should be|nd live and in the uk it should be a privilege. and has been on privilege. and adam has been on gb views is at gbnews.uk. thank you, adam it most you, adam he says it is most definitely a privilege and not a right to come and live in the uk. and if was by anyone to uk. and if it was by anyone to have a right to live in the uk, then default it would have to work the other way round. he's basically saying that we would then be able well i've then be able to say, well i've got to go and as got the right to go and live as indeed one of my other viewers has in the dominican. has said in the dominican. i think a was think that was a chap was calling spartacus said calling himself spartacus said yes cracking name. so yes he'd , yes cracking name. so yes he'd, like live the dominican like to live in the dominican republic. that republic. where does that end the of us saying the vast majority of us saying it is not actually a human rights come to live and work in the uk, it is a privilege and we appear to be upholding that quite quite as privilege, quite some, quite as privilege, particularly while on that we quite some, quite as privilege, pargoingly while on that we quite some, quite as privilege, pargoing to nhile on that we quite some, quite as privilege, pargoing to be le on that we quite some, quite as privilege, pargoing to be going:hat we quite some, quite as privilege, pargoing to be going:hatv1again are going to be going back again shortly outside an asylum shortly to outside an asylum seeker hotel that's in leicestershire . residents there leicestershire. residents there having protest, leicestershire. residents there having protest , they're going having a protest, they're going to a protest. they say that to have a protest. they say that there consulted before
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there was not consulted before this hotel with popped up basically. now they were also told apparently that it was going to 250 afghan asylum going to be 250 afghan asylum seekers. our reporter on the ground there , that chap ground there, that one chap told him egypt . that him he was from egypt. that might muddy the waters even. so we'll you live. we'll be bringing that you live. but just before channel migrants illegally entering uk will be removed and then from any future return under new legislation sets out to be revealed tomorrow. and more than 3000 people have already crossed the engush people have already crossed the english channel in small boats this compares to the this year. that compares to the 46,000 who entered britain in a similar fashion last year. joining me is immigration lawyer ivan watson . thank you very ivan watson. thank you very much. now, rishi coming out and saying all do is i will make sure that who arrives here at legal rates won't be allowed to stay. which means they'll be deported and won't be to apply for in future. either way for asylum in future. either way will have to come for a holiday. can well. parliament can can it work well. parliament can enact any laws that it's that it wants to. if it has a majority and bill passes through both
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houses and gets royal assent. it's the law . so yes, it can be it's the law. so yes, it can be done. however we also have to look at all international treaty obligations. look at all international treaty obugafions.the look at all international treaty obligations. the first one being international law. we know this is the maritime international maritime law places a positive obugafion maritime law places a positive obligation on uk to rescue those people stranded in the channel. now what do we do with them? what if somebody says, i want to claim asylum? do they have a human right to , have their human right to, have their asylum claim properly ? i say asylum claim properly? i say they do. why? because we are a member of the refugee convention. i think the only way that rishi sunak do it, he's doneit that rishi sunak do it, he's done it back to front is . take done it back to front is. take us out the refugee convention . us out the refugee convention. then by all means, bring a law that doesn't allow anyone to claim asylum. but while we're a member , we have a positive member, we have a positive obugafion member, we have a positive obligation to comply with the rules of convention. okay. all right . but do other countries right. but do other countries always comply with that ? well, always comply with that? well, that's that's really a good argument. say, well, if they don't get why should we? we drafted the refugee convention .
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drafted the refugee convention. we put those clauses in for a reason to protect those people fleeing persecution , genuine fleeing persecution, genuine refugees. the government should be putting all their effort into catching people or , not genuine, catching people or, not genuine, removing them in timely manner instead of removing 1% of 1% of applications that decide in 12 months. yeah. ten years ago that was 90. within six months. so this is where the effort should go not blaming asylum seekers who are genuine. half of which crossing the channel are genuine . yeah. i mean, look, i know. there's a lot of pushback on that particular figure, i've got to be fair, but we haven't got time into that directly. time to go into that directly. now just clarify, now just to clarify, then, you're the only way you could see working for rishi sunak see this working for rishi sunak is if we out of the john. if we come out of barriers different international laws, and do things our own way. because in your view , unless he does that , your view, unless he does that, this won't get off the ground all. look, australia with
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operation sovereign . about 20 operation sovereign. about 20 about 15 years ago they and the government copying those canadian model . that didn't canadian model. that didn't work. it won't work. you will not stop people coming across the channel what you have to do is . can i just the channel what you have to do is. can i just say, though, ivan, i was sorry to interrupt, but to be fair about, the australian thing, what they did was towed the boats back was they towed the boats back and that worked no no it and that worked it. no no it didn't because the cost person ran into . i think it worked out ran into. i think it worked out $1,000,000 per person. no, it doesn't work. patrick it did work. it was. well, it did because the but it's taken over . look, i like you and i drove those, but it did work because they don't have people doing that. they don't have people doing that . well, look, they had that. well, look, they had treaties with other countries to take people back to. we don't have we need a treaty with france to stop people getting in the boats in the first place, to have safely equal routes to come across to and effectively deter people by removing those people that not genuine in a timely
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manner . the that not genuine in a timely manner. the laws are already there. i do think the rishi sunak may a fast track application process. i reckon that's what's his sleeve that he's going too fast . make he's going too fast. make decisions, refuse and remove. yes exactly. and we do await with bated breath what rishi sunak has to say tomorrow? will he pull a rabbit out of the hop of these towns? it look of these towns? it does look like a bit of a like going to be a bit of a legal for him. we can legal quagmire for him. we can only assume he's to sort only assume he's managed to sort out we're out the problems that we're talking otherwise talking about today, otherwise it more higher. it might just be more higher. can you final can i just ask you one final one, alright, can i just ask you one final one,it's alright, can i just ask you one final one,it's the alright, can i just ask you one final one,it's the questionlright, can i just ask you one final one,it's the question i've t, and it's the question i've been asking my viewers and listeners so strongly on it as you can so strongly is on it as you can imagine. it imagine. do you think? it is a human right be able live and human right to be able live and work uk or it be seen as work in the uk or it be seen as a privilege . if you're an asylum a privilege. if you're an asylum seeker , a human right to have seeker, a human right to have your claim considered properly and fairly if you're in the country, it's a human right to have your family and life protected without unlawful interference by the state. if you're outside the country it's a human right to have your immigration application decided fairly . so that's my response .
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fairly. so that's my response. but fair enough. look, thank you much. always great advice. something that . who's an something that. who's an immigration lawyer? yes like i've said, that's going to be a big one for us tomorrow. when comes supposedly comes to rishi sunak supposedly unveiling his plan not unveiling his grand plan to not just the small boats crisis, but actually look at stopping other forms of illegal immigration . forms of illegal immigration. well. identified , well. as we've just identified, massive issues when it comes to the legal loopholes. now, moving on, duke and duchess of sussex have email correspondence have been email correspondence with the king's office over whether will attend the coronation. spokesperson for coronation. a spokesperson for the duke and duchess of sussex has i can confirm has told gb news. i can confirm . the duke has recently received email correspondence from his majesty's office regarding the coronation and decision on whether the duke and duchess will attend will not be disclosed by us at this time. so they've been invited, but they haven't made their minds up yet. meanwhile, it meanwhile, harry copping it abroad said abroad because he basically said that helped that illegal drugs has helped mental are saying mental state. people are saying that's catastrophic advice and. indeed, people dying from them and prominent black american comedian chris rock came out and
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said that what meghan faced at the the royal family the hands of the royal family was drama . i want to say was in—law drama. i want to say the word and not racism. let's get the view of royal correspondent anne rice and nicholas our nicholas, thank you very . first and foremost, very much. first and foremost, do should just do you think they should just make their minds up sharpish about to this coronation? about coming to this coronation? actually, you say this is proof of an invitation. it's not quite , is it? they say they've been in email touch with the palace on this matter. so we're not 100% sure that means an invitation . it might be. look, invitation. it might be. look, you can only come if you agree to sort of stay completely schtum in public. i don't know what. but. but there are so many missed serious things about all of this, there . it's such of this, aren't there. it's such a wacky thing. patrick, you and ihave a wacky thing. patrick, you and i have discussed before . to i have discussed this before. to my thing is. yes they my mind, the thing is. yes they get an invitation and if they sing the sort of sense, the way british public are responding, the way the public generally responding, not just here but in america to increasingly. yes. really interesting moments like they will say politely decline.
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it's a lovely idea, but perhaps not. well, let me talk to you a bit about that because prince harry some kind of advice, harry gave some kind of advice, really, you could argue about drug use appearing to indicate that it promoted his own mental well—being . and clearly the well—being. and clearly the jury's out on that in itself. but other people have hit back and said that's terrible advice. there massive when it comes there are massive when it comes to drugs and people's mental health. fact, they health. health, in fact, they can . and then on top of can kill. and then on top of that, meghan markle been that, meghan markle has been slighted , comedian slighted by chris rock, comedian over he's saying that over there. he's saying that what she not racism. it was what she was not racism. it was normal stuff. if and harry are copping it from our royal family, the british public, the american public, and now the hollywood woke her party, are they going to one left? well, you're absolutely right. you know , but i think, again, it's know, but i think, again, it's so interesting to look back at some history here. i mean, i know harry's doing that and saying what terrible childhood saying what a terrible childhood he broken home. he had and so on. broken home. and, know, he's at how awful and, you know, he's at how awful things for him let's go things were for him let's go back further than that. go back much further than that. go back much further than that. go back last coronation that
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back to the last coronation that 1953 in the background was another extremely controversial figure, of course. let's just say the man who was edward the eighth for a very brief period , eighth for a very brief period, duke of windsor. now, should have attended the coronation along his american wife, who a divorcee and many people were unhappy about. then what happened then was very instructive, i think . winston instructive, i think. winston churchill. then prime minister advised not to attend . in other advised not to attend. in other words, i would imagine that have been a formal invitation. and he the heavy advice not to attend . the heavy advice not to attend. and what he did was he sat in paris with a lot of his pals and people who gathered around them and it on the television. and i think if i was the shoes of harry's , i think they would say harry's, i think they would say to themselves that's the sensible thing to do . let's have sensible thing to do. let's have pictures of them watching fondly as the king is to crown. but let's leave it at that. okay nicholas, thank you very much. as ever , howard is royal as ever, howard is royal correspondent and author. there is so much still to come here
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before 6 pm. next i will get the inside track on the government's latest attempt to end the migrant crisis , and i end the migrant crisis, and i will speak to a resident of a leicestershire village whose protest because 250 afghan asylum seekers are staying in their local hotel. i want to find out what their problem really is when it comes to the people being allowed to stay in that hotel. get your views coming in gb views and gbnews.uk do you ? it's a human right to be do you? it's a human right to be able to come and live and work in britain or should it be a privilege? i've tick. i'm jacob rees—mogg , member of parliament rees—mogg, member of parliament for north east somerset and a former government minister. for years the corridors of years walked the corridors of power in both westminster and the london . i campaigned the city of london. i campaigned in democratic vote in the largest democratic vote in the largest democratic vote in ireland i know this in ireland story. i know this country has so much to be proud . we need to have the arguments, the discussion is how make the discussion is on how we make it better. the of the nation is in people . vox populi, vox in its people. vox populi, vox day . that's why in its people. vox populi, vox day. that's why i'm joining the people's channel. join me monday through thursday at 8 pm. on gb
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channel yes, ladies and gentlemen , it's yes, ladies and gentlemen, it's 4:00 here with me patrick christys gb news. and as ever , christys gb news. and as ever, it's a big hour. so we have a look what we've got up. okay, so the channel migrant crackdown rishi sunak is going to unveil his plan to stop the small boats crisis and. hopefully anyway take back control of our borders as this controversy is raging because , we will be at the scene because, we will be at the scene of an asylum seeker hotel protest in leicestershire. find out what locals are really up in arms . the politics for you now, arms. the politics for you now, though, because matt hancock, why he can't keep him out of the news with the lockdown files was he guilty of covid cycle logical warfare after he said he wanted to scare the pants off the nafion to scare the pants off the nation with a new variant? someone is always in the someone else is always in the news. days, in world news. these days, in the world of is gray. she has of politics is sue gray. she has had her appointment as labour chief of staff called into
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question . just brought you, question. just brought you, didn't urgent question didn't we? the urgent question in house of commons. lots of in the house of commons. lots of question over sue grey's question marks over sue grey's appointment there and whether or not should any of not should any kind of relationship sit with some of the labour policy before hand and frankly integrity of and as well frankly integrity of the civil service . other news, the civil service. other news, though, as well, we have got the man himself, prince harry, back in hot water. harry has basically promoted would say promoted needs drugs for mental health. and a lot of people are saying harry is bad for your mental health and it can kill you. meghan markle's cop you. meghan markle's also cop two rock, two as well. chris rock, prominent american prominent black american comedian, has said that. meghan markle the hands of our markle face by the hands of our royal was racism. royal family was not racism. it was normal in law, drama, all that coming your way and much, much more. obviously and 5 pm. you lucky people saying it's . you lucky people saying it's. a just a quick reminder of the email gbviews@gbnews.uk. i want to ask you whether or not you that coming and living and
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working in the uk is actually a human right, a god given human right or a privilege that is in light of what she that wants to do to take back control of our borders. gb views and gbnews.uk. now though, if see headlines, we're polly middlehurst middlehurst . patrick thank you middlehurst. patrick thank you and good afternoon to you. will our top story today on gb news. former met police officer wayne cozens has been sentenced to a further 19 months in prison after pleading guilty to three charges of indecent exposure . in charges of indecent exposure. in one instance, the court heard how he was meant to be on duty and working from home when he exposed himself at a woman in a country lane just months before he murdered sarah everard. the 50 year old is already serving a whole life sentence for the murder of . miss everett, in murder of. miss everett, in 2021. in a statement the metropolitan police said the latest crimes brought shame on us all at the service . well in
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us all at the service. well in other news today, charity groups are warning thousands of asylum seekers be left permanently in limbo under a proposed government plans to tackle small boats . the english channel. new boats. the english channel. new legislation would mean those arrive on boats would be prevented from claiming asylum and would be banned from returning to the uk. the government says , it's getting government says, it's getting a grip on illegal migration and promised more routes for asylum seekers . that comes as promised more routes for asylum seekers. that comes as gb news reveals more than 3000 people have crossed the channel so this yeah have crossed the channel so this year. that's nearly double the year. that's nearly double the year before. shadow home secretary yvette cooper says the government isn't doing enough to fix the problem . we need action fix the problem. we need action to the dangerous boat crossings that are putting lives at risk and also border security . that's and also border security. that's why we've called for cross border police to go after the criminal gangs are really driving this as well as a new agreement with france and an
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overhaul of the asylum system to end use. but all we've so far at the moment is just from the government that look like they're a repeat of the headunes they're a repeat of the headlines they had around last years. bill which just didn't work and up making things worse . yvette cooper now tributes have been paid to people killed in a car crash. have been paid to people killed in a car crash . cardiff. 21 year in a car crash. cardiff. 21 year old yves smith and ross and 24 year old rafael j.n. died in the accident . two others, 20 year accident. two others, 20 year old sophie rawson and 30 year old sophie rawson and 30 year old shane loughlin , have been old shane loughlin, have been left seriously injured. investigating the crash say the group missing after a night out on friday and were last seen in the early hours of saturday morning . piers and piece are morning. piers and piece are warning the prime minister's strike is likely to be in breach of the european convention on human rights. the proposals aim to ensure minimum working standards during industrial action across six sectors,
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including health and transport. but report by the cross—party joint committee , human rights joint committee, human rights has called on the government to reconsider the legislation . the reconsider the legislation. the warning comes as the unite union has called off the latest outcome coming ambulance strikes in england in order to hold pay talks with the government. the industrial action had been due to take place today and wednesday . meanwhile, fire wednesday. meanwhile, fire fighters have voted overwhelmingly to accept new pay offer, ending the prospect of strike action for them . the deal strike action for them. the deal is for a 7% pay increase to july last year, plus an additional % last year, plus an additional% from july . 96% of fire brigade from july. 96% of fire brigade union members accepted the offer. but general secretary matt wrack admitted it was another real terms pay cut . another real terms pay cut. bofis another real terms pay cut. boris johnson has reportedly put his father forward for knighthood as part of his honours list. times newspaper reports stanley has been
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nominated for the honour. the appointment raises questions. the former prime minister nominee cited his brother, jo johnson, for a peerage in 2020. but the un secretary michelle donelan called the claims speculation and there were bigger fish to fry. speculation and there were bigger fish to fry . and lastly, bigger fish to fry. and lastly, novak djokovic has been forced to withdraw from the indian wells tennis in california because of his covid vaccine status . international visitors status. international visitors to us are required to have received two jabs against the coronavirus the us. but the world's number one is unvaccinated. the country's restrictions are due to end month and the tennis hearts are had been hoping for a special as the tournament starts on wednesday . that's all for me wednesday. that's all for me now. i'm back half an so either
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okay welcome back now channel migrants illegally entering the uk be removed and then banned any future return that in the new legislation set to be revealed tomorrow but rishi sunakis revealed tomorrow but rishi sunak is going to have to pull a couple of rabbits out of the hat to get through very obvious to get through some very obvious loopholes. now more than 3000 people have crossed the english channelin people have crossed the english channel in small boats. so far this year, 46,000 entered britain in a similar fashion last year. but the government is expected to outline plans which it believes help get a grip on illegal immigration . now it illegal immigration. now it would see people arriving on small boats removed from the uk , banned from coming and , banned from frankly coming and unable to apply for british citizenship charities obviously have criticised move as unworkable and one which would leave thousands of migrants in limbo a sense everyone that's the grey area with all of these people how is rishi sunak going to get through some of the obvious legal issues here? because of because the parts of international treaties and well rwanda not going to take as rwanda is not going to take as many clearly rishi many people as clearly rishi
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sunak them. sunak would like to send them. okay. so how are we going to get over labour has questioned over that? labour has questioned the timing of the announcement, suggesting of may's local tactic ahead of may's local elections england . not want elections in england. not want joins us now and as well i'm going to be going to speak to a residential area in residential local area in leicestershire . they're about leicestershire. they're about to have about asylum have a protest about an asylum seeker hotel, but right now seeker hotel, but not right now . i'll have a security editor and on this. now, and he's got more on this. now, look, undeniably sunak look, undeniably, rishi sunak has up some kind of has to come up with some kind of legal of the hat legal rubbish out of the hat tomorrow. this is going to tomorrow. if this is going to work . but do know about work. but what do we know about his so far? well, much of his plan so far? well, much of it really hinges on this issue of crossing via an irregular route . so, in other words, route. so, in other words, coming into the country illegally. now, that can on a small boat in the back of a lorry landing at an airfield in a light aircraft . however you do a light aircraft. however you do it if you come via an illegal route , then you would not be route, then you would not be able to qualify for asylum then you would then be put into a process whereby it as soon as
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practically, practically you would be removed from the country. how long that actually take in reality is a difficult one to answer. we know there are multiple legal challenges any someone is faced with deported failed asylum. so there be here for long enough based what we know so far that when a when this comes into force even someone coming from afghanistan who entered through an irregular route so let's say they got in a boat and came across the channel. would they be deported back to afghanistan i'm told there might be a very , very there might be a very, very small number of key exceptions, but they vast majority people who enter through an irregular route , even if that includes route, even if that includes somewhere like afghanistan or the ukraine, then they would be returned. they would lose the
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right to claim asylum because they've broken the law to enter illegally. that's as we understand it of the legislation. however of course, the lawyers are going to have a field day with because they will claim that you are depriving someone of fundamental right to able to claim asylum . and if able to claim asylum. and if they are being denied that right then their human rights are being infringed that's one for the courts to battle it out on the courts to battle it out on the trouble is the you know the courts are currently battling it out over the rwanda policy that was announced by boris johnson last april. we're 11 months down the line not a single flight taken off for rwanda . are we taken off for rwanda. are we going to enter the same process 7 going to enter the same process ? no. going to enter the same process ? n0. with going to enter the same process ? no. with a policy that they want to implement as soon as possible, that suddenly are going to be challenged in the courts. and then we'll go to multiple different courts
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throughout that process , that 11 throughout that process, that 11 months only, you've done the road. no one has actually been removed through . this process. removed through. this process. well, this is what makes the announcement respected. tomorrow's fascinating. announcement respected. tomorrow's fascinating . as it tomorrow's so fascinating. as it stands, we know how rishi sunak or even he's managed to navigate this legal minefield. but realistically , what you said to realistically, what you said to me was what human rights lawyers have said to me as well. and i think, just common think, frankly, just common sense, i think most people know this . they are unless there this that. they are unless there is the way that is some change in the way that we're operate terms we're going operate in terms of international . and he's got international law. and he's got the to that through the counties to that through then this isn't really going to take place. the only other thing i want to was whether or i just want to was whether or not with the not better relations with the french might actually have something to with this. do something to do with this. do you there any you think that there is any chance whatsoever that the french that macron and its elevated will have out of the goodness of his own heart, have to just keep a load of asylum seekers in france ? not at all. i seekers in france? not at all. i don't think that emmanuel macron any interest in signing a return
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agreement with the uk it never happened when we were in the european union. why would that happen now and other european countries , you know, are going countries, you know, are going to be absolutely of the same thorn that they're going to sign return agreements with the united kingdom. so where do you return people to? or if not return people to? or if not return them, where do you send them to? they are still they are still pending their hope on rwanda , on, you know. but rwanda, on, you know. but particular agreement coming to fruition. and certainly of the court decisions. thus far have beenin court decisions. thus far have been in favour of the government . trouble is, yeah, in our court system, one decision goes against. then you have a right of appeal to a higher court and all of that time, many, many months we've been through it. last year we're going through it again because are the european human rights intervened and said
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you need take another look at this. yeah so it's going through that whole process again. it gets to the end of that process .then gets to the end of that process . then if rwanda is still lawful . we might be in a position where they can start sending off to rwanda now , although people to rwanda now, although people are seeing rwanda is only ever going to be taking a few hundred. that was never my rwanda will take many thousands. the agreement always that they would take a number to begin with if that works out there be given more money to take people if not enough times get the house in quite literally now the a name rwanda they've got the facilities that they will build more to more people more facilities to more people they want to grow their economy they want to grow their economy they want to people that country that's fair enough if they want to do that there are some other countries aside rwanda that are interested in similar agreements with the uk as well. that's what the uk will need without a doubt
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if they are if they don't have a returns agreement, certain countries like they do with iran, for instance, they can't return people there. but the alternative to this is you send them to rwanda . interesting them to rwanda. interesting stuff. thank you. very, very much. not why our homeland security editor. now locals are set to protest at the new lodge hotel in the small village of kag within leicestershire . so kag within leicestershire. so this hotel is due to become part of the latest round of asylum seeker hotels . some 250 asylum seeker hotels. some 250 asylum seekers. we were initially told from afghanistan , although we from afghanistan, although we did speak to our reporter on ground there who earlier said a man said to he from man said to him he was from egypt. some confusion egypt. so some confusion already. the protest will take place a parish council place ahead of a parish council meeting in the village and i'm very keen dig down into this. i want to speak now to elle edwards, who is a resident of and is taking part in the protest today. lee, thank you very, very much forjoining us. very, very much for joining us. can you just tell me why you feel the need to take part in this protest later ? what's going this protest later? what's going on for you ? it's sir? it's just
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on for you? it's sir? it's just what's happened in the village. i mean, it's been doing so underhanded and through the back door that nobody knew about this until last monday , you know, it until last monday, you know, it was suddenly dropped on us the hundred 250 people, local residents of the village and the surrounding areas that were told work to you lodge the they were going to be out of work on friday and you know and it's something that our community can't can't put up with really it's just a big shock to the system . so as far as you're system. so as far as you're aware that there going to be a burden local facilities, but also people presumably rendered unemployed a result of this and you will be out there protesting this evening, will you? what kind things are you going to be saying, do you think this is just like what we said on monday? i mean, it's not the you
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know, we're against the immigrants or migration or anything like that . you know, anything like that. you know, we're not right wing. we're a small community that can't cope with an influx of people. i mean , just a couple, three weeks ago, the surgery and go to that burned to the ground so we've got a people now from go to in that area that have got no no doctor surgery so they've taken them on in our village and even doctors and you know the people work down at the local surgery are concerned about this sudden influx our infrastructure can't take it just a small community of 4300 people that have suddenly had these 250 immigrants. so migrants, whatever you want to call them, drop it on us. you know, it's a big shock to the system when . a big shock to the system when. a lot of the people that live in kag, a retired pensioners, you know, and they're frightened it's a big change for small community and what would you say
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to people who undoubtedly will watch what you said now late and wrongly by the way but they will say things to you like, oh, this is just for right you wouldn't be saying same would you, if it was a load of american they were coming over here, etc. what do you say to those people ? i'd you say to those people? i'd just say, you know, if lived in a small community like we are me, my wife and children, all our children went to the local schools . and you could walk schools. and you could walk around any day or night in kag with it's a small local community. everybody knows everybody that to suddenly have these strange is that nobody knows nobody knows where they've come from. we told in one breath from afghanistan , and then we from afghanistan, and then we told the french somali . we told told the french somali. we told from egypt , we just don't know. from egypt, we just don't know. and it's a big, from egypt, we just don't know. and it's a big , frightening and it's a big, frightening thing for pensioners and schoolchildren and teenagers, the whole is in a state of shock
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over this . it's just been done over this. it's just been done so on the handed the, you know, i'd like to tell those people that are saying that we fall right on we racist we're not we just a small concerned community that the old used to these kind of things and to have it just dropped on us i mean it was the village was in shock even the local councillors , you know you local councillors, you know you can shock about it and there seems to be. yeah. can i ask they can i, can i ask. i don't know. kagwe i don't know cec with well myself i've not been neven with well myself i've not been never. well how big is kagwe. how many people have you got. roughly in kag with . roughly i'd roughly in kag with. roughly i'd say on the census it's about 4300 you know. so we're not a massive community, you know. and obviously will be a concern for you guys about burden on public services as you've just said, but a lack of communication should prior to this. and would you worried then that kibworth
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might change forever as a result of this, or would you be willing to accept maybe something temporary there for a little penod temporary there for a little period of time and then does situation changes? what is your concern that . well i mean, if concern that. well i mean, if it's only a permanent thing we've been told 15 months you know and then it it might start petering out but that's not the point it's not doesn't matter how long is it doesn't matter whether it's six weeks a month, six it you know, six years. it's just the underhanded way it's been done and it's just the shock on the local community. this, you know, nobody told a thing about it. the only reason find out is because i went to pick my paper for the co—op monday morning and somebody said, have you heard what's happening ? you lodge, you know. happening? you lodge, you know. and it's the same as the employees were there. i employees that were there. i mean, the small copper wise that was , the escape was there, there, the escape rooms that used to operate from that. rooms that used to operate from that . and it's just to turn that. and it's just to turn round and, tell all those people
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that, you know, i'm sorry but come friday you're out of work and you don't think that's fairly does yeah last question ali last question so you don't know okay or at thank you very much lee edwards who the residents of caguas and is taking part in the protest later today. taking part in the protest later today . that process is due to today. that process is due to i think really at around 5 pm. there's going to be a parish council . we'll all council meeting. we'll bring all of thank you very of that to you. thank you very much, joining me now is much, lee. so joining me now is the mp for north the independence mp for north west leicestershire and somewhat of household name as of a household name as well. it's bridgen . thank you it's andrew bridgen. thank you very for joining it's andrew bridgen. thank you very forjoining us. let's very much forjoining us. let's talk about this. firstly, what is what we're seeing is your on what we're seeing that local residents in caguas very angry no no whiff by the way the far right with that guy or they particularly or how do they particularly right wing in fact you could argue was quite wing. he argue it was quite left wing. he was workers was more concerned about workers rights what rights than anything else. what is that hotel is your view about that hotel being with ? well, i being in cargo with? well, i completely understand the residents, my constituent watching caguas would be
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concerned and north—west statues are very tightly knit community people don't move out of it it's same families names are on the war memorials live in the streets today . and to have 250 streets today. and to have 250 economic migrants that all dropped to a small village . it's dropped to a small village. it's a big shock for them. they don't know where they've come from. they don't know that going to have the same values and, respect for the law and customs we used to in north—west leicestershire . and that's leicestershire. and that's that's a huge concern . and that's a huge concern. and what's worrying , what's even more worrying, patrick, is that the spectre of using this hotel in the middle of , the division of cannabis was of, the division of cannabis was raised last september. i challenge that and the home office and said that look there's no secure you can't secure the in the middle of the village. and they that it was an unsuitable site and then mysteriously few months later, four months later that almost notes at all they sent me a
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letter that using it anyway and 250 migrants, economic migrants coming in into my constituency we've got just a couple of questions on this out. the constituency which been used for years just yet. just a couple of questions on this. so firstly, why this hotel deemed to be on suitable initially? and secondly , we were told, as far as i'm aware earlier on, this was a hotel going to be used for afghan refugees . okay. which i afghan refugees. okay. which i think may be just something slightly different to the public , because people have seen the horrors afghanistan . no one horrors of afghanistan. no one would live under would want to live under the taliban. link. we're taliban. obvious link. but we're heanng taliban. obvious link. but we're hearing now that's not necessarily the egypt's necessarily the case. egypt's and clearly a bit of what should you say misinformation but whatever around that particular situation there so why do you think that happening. so firstly was it unsuitable and secondly, why can't they just be upfront about the nationalities, people who dana well, who are staying? dana well, because the hotel is the middle
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of the village and there's no security fence, there's no there's of securing that site there's no of securing that site in the village. and that was why it was deemed unsuitable . i'm it was deemed unsuitable. i'm told there will be four security guards there not to keep anybody in the hotel there to keep people out. i'm told i was told by the home office migrant accommodation team in a meeting last week that it would be afghans. but clearly i've been told by the local parish council that there's there are different nationalities i was told they'll be there for about six months and then the rotate it out to other accommodation but clearly other accommodation but clearly other people will be coming and we don't know where they're going to from. it'll going to come from. it'll be whichever are crossing whichever migrants are crossing the channel. i think the important is that the important thing is that the promise the small boats bill will be presented to parliament this afternoon or tomorrow for its first reading and the sooner or we can get on and stop these people coming across the channel from safe third countries the
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better . okay andrew will you be better. okay andrew will you be going to this protest, sir? what will you be going to this protest tonight? are you down west? i mean, what's the. we've got vans that we've got boats this evening. just just the andrew as well . i've got to ask andrew as well. i've got to ask you, clearly, the lockdown files have been rather availing of it. they and i just wanted to know what you were making of it. the latest today anyway , along latest round today anyway, along the the fact the man the lines of the fact the man caught was wanting to scare the pants off the nation . talk of a pants off the nation. talk of a new variant. i think that's quite interesting. and that lockdowns basically so lockdowns continued basically so that government didn't look that the government didn't look bad. you clearly had your run ins recently when it comes to search themselves . the views of search themselves. the views of our set lockdowns of vaccines, obviously. how do you feel when you see such a thing? i i voted against some of the lockdowns. i voted against masks. i voted against the nhs budget, against plan b. and i said in that
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debate december . 21, the debate december. 21, the pandemic, we will across the world and across our country was pandemic of fear and that it's affected mental health and that's especially for young people who haven't got the mental resilience. and it got to stop. and that was from the government. what we're seeing is that that was exploited and the way that matt hancock and simon case has not come out with this as well. a senior civil servant , they seem to revel in it pretty distasteful . okay, pretty distasteful. okay, andrew, thank you very, very much . bridgen, that is the much. bridgen, that is the independent's mp for north west leicestershire initially talking a story that we're going to be covering left, right and on this show, protest outside show, which is a protest outside a leicestershire about a hotel in leicestershire about the introduction of around hundred and 50 asylum seekers. like i said before, we were told that they were going to be from ap that maybe that's not ap is now that maybe that's not the that change the case does that change
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everything you everything? that's not what you think into my. big think it ties into my. big question you question for you gbviews@gbnews.uk , is this gbviews@gbnews.uk, which is this do think that this is a do you think that this is a human right to be able to come and live and work the uk? or and live and work in the uk? or should be more of a should it be more of a privilege? your emails privilege? get your emails coming sending coming in. i know i'm sending you and i'm not reading coming in. i know i'm sending y(lot and i'm not reading coming in. i know i'm sending y(lot of and i'm not reading coming in. i know i'm sending y(lot of them and i'm not reading coming in. i know i'm sending y(lot of them out i'm not reading coming in. i know i'm sending y(lot of them out at] not reading coming in. i know i'm sending y(lot of them out at thet reading coming in. i know i'm sending y(lot of them out at the moment. a lot of them out at the moment. i but we can't i will do, but we can't really come breath because the row come up breath because the row over sue grey's appointment has kicked . as sir keir kicked off again. as sir keir starmer's chief staff has starmer's chief of staff has played in the house commons. played out in the house commons. did the labour leader break rules when he appointed a? we'll find out very, very shortly
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yes. well back, everybody, right now we've got loads to come between now and the end of the houn between now and the end of the hour. in fact, almost too much . hour. in fact, almost too much. okay. so we're going to have to try rustle through try to rustle through it. i am going talking about rishi going to be talking about rishi sunak's migrant plan . so he sunak's new migrant plan. so he wants to end the small boats crisis . wants make sure crisis. he wants to make sure that who here illegally
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that anyone who here illegally through routes will not be allowed to stay will not be allowed to stay will not be allowed apply asylum allowed to apply for asylum again future. again in the future. and of course, by he'd allowed course, by what he'd be allowed to apparently. people to visit, apparently. but people are how, will going are saying how, will you going to unless you to do this, rishi, unless you break international law. so that's a big question mark for rishi sunak. on of rishi sunak. but also on top of that, i am going to be talking as well to james, who is the diary editor at the spector ed and right off sue and he's kicked right off sue gray gray, of course , lady gray sue gray, of course, lady in the politics in charge of the politics investigation, the top civil servant she is going to be, it would appear labour's chief of staff . there was an urgent staff. there was an urgent question in the house commons question in the house of commons about how why this has come to pass raising , serious questions pass raising, serious questions about whether or not sue gray on the labour policy. by the way followed process and the followed due process and the rules in terms of appointing someone and whether or not there was any of interest there and whether or not, the civil service really is impartial. those a couple of big ones and they're coming your way in just a matter of seconds as well. of as wonderful emails. gb as your wonderful emails. gb views the gbnews.uk people
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getting in touch with me saying answering the question, is it a human right ? answering the question, is it a human right? be able to come and live and work in uk or it be live and work in the uk or it be a the overwhelming a privilege and the overwhelming consensus that consensus at the moment is that it privilege and it is indeed a privilege and also human right. i'll go to also human right. but i'll go to those emails very shortly. those emails very, very shortly. but now i am going to be talking to polly middlehurst. in fact , to polly middlehurst. in fact, she's going to be talking to you because headlines because she's got the headlines cited . cited. patrick, thank you. well, our top story today , former met top story today, former met police officer wayne cozens been sentenced to a further 19 months in prison after pleading to three charges of indecent exposure. in one instance. the court heard how he was meant to be on duty , working from home be on duty, working from home when . he exposed himself at when. he exposed himself at a woman , a country lane just woman, a country lane just months before he murdered sarah everard . the 50 year old is everard. the 50 year old is already serving a whole life
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sentence for the murder of everard in 2021. charity groups are warning thousands of asylum seekers will be left permanently in limbo under a proposed plans to tackle illegal via small boats . the channel. the new boats. the channel. the new legislation would mean those who arrive on boats would prevented from claiming asylum and would be banned from returning to the uk. the government says . it's uk. the government says. it's getting a grip on illegal migration and promised more safe routes . asylum seekers and that routes. asylum seekers and that coming as gb news reveals more than 3000 people have crossed the channel. so far this year. that's nearly double the year before. the shadow home secretary, yvette cooper, says government isn't doing enough to fix the. we need action . stop fix the. we need action. stop the dangerous boat crossings that are putting lives at risk and also undermining border security . that's why we've security. that's why we've called for new cross border units to go after the criminal gangs that are really driving this as well as a new agreement
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with france, an overhaul of the asylum system to end hotel use . asylum system to end hotel use. but all we've got so far at the moment is just headlines from the government that look like they're a repeat of the headlines. they had around last year's bill, which just didn't work and ended up making worse . work and ended up making worse. and lastly, the three people killed in a car crash in wales have been named as one year olds. eve smith and darcy and 24 year old rachel jane. two others, 20 year old sophie rawson and 32 year old shane loughlin, were also injured in the accident. police investigating the crash, say the group were missing after a night out on friday were last seen in the early hours of . saturday. the early hours of. saturday. that's all for me now. i'm back in half . in half. right later this hour, i will
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bnng right later this hour, i will bring you up today with rishi sunak's latest plans to end the migrant crisis. but right now , migrant crisis. but right now, though, to two big stories concerning the civil service. labour leader keir starmer has said he had apps illegally no contact with sue gray as she prepared reports into covid lockdown gatherings downing street. it comes as the ec senior civil servant will tell the government's appointments watchdog when she first had talks about becoming sir keir starmer's, chief of staff . tory starmer's, chief of staff. tory anger over name but some tories have argued this could undermine civil service . and it comes at a civil service. and it comes at a time when simon case is the most senior civil servant in the country is also under pressure over. country is also under pressure over . some of the whatsapp over. some of the whatsapp messages he sent matt hancock dunng messages he sent matt hancock during the covid pandemic. it's a pic our way through this particular minefield as the political correspond does at the spectator. james hill and james even tweeted how on earth just simon case still have a job before so there you go. james joins me now. james can i can i start well i'll start with the simon i think
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simon case. so i think we probably is anyway. probably start to mr. is anyway. what case. what the latest with simon case. well over the weekend telegraph revealed that simon had been whatsapp being matt hancock in quite an impartial way to discussing the rival views cabinet ministers throughout the 2020 and 2021 lockdowns, including such gems as accusing alok sharma , one of the sort of alok sharma, one of the sort of tory moderates of how pure conservative ideology , which conservative ideology, which isn't really what you'd expect . isn't really what you'd expect. cabinet secretary of the civil service to be saying. and this follows messages in which he appeared to be sort taking joy from saying people who are quarantined when arriving back from holidays. so really these messages although raise questions . matt hancock's questions. matt hancock's behaviour in office. matt hancock obviously gone. he is dead. hancock obviously gone. he is dead . so there's questions about dead. so there's questions about simon remained the cabinet simon case remained the cabinet secretary most senior civil secretary the most senior civil servant country . okay servant in this country. okay and those questions be and just so those questions be well that he wasn't particularly impartial or that he wasn't a massive part of the british given he appeared given the fact he appeared to be revelling being up revelling, them being locked up or both, and that he he lost
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sight of impartiality. lost sight of impartiality. lost sight of impartiality. lost sight of due process. it wasn't a checks and balances proper cabinet government . and his cabinet government. and his other job is to lead the service. he looks to have completely lost sight that. and my understanding is that a number of civil servants are very unhappy his leadership of it. so there's pressure him it. so there's all pressure him to okay, now sue great is to go. okay, now sue great is the other big story in town. we to the of commons live to the house of commons live earlier about an hour ago on this show. urgent question raised about impartiality of the civil as a whole but also whether or not due process had been followed by sue gray and the labour party for that matter , when it came to supposedly appointing her as that chief of staff. can you read me some of the unanswered questions in that grey area, please , for grey area grey area, please, for grey area 7 grey area, please, for grey area ? i think the main question is when an approach made really? because last labour sources were briefing out that keir starmer made a personal a couple of months ago , there was a vacancy months ago, there was a vacancy
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from october onwards that would be five or six months ago. when do these start and how much how much contact has sue gray had ? much contact has sue gray had? the opposition? senior civil sets are not supposed to be liaising with shadow cabinet members and i think it was really telling this morning that keir starmer did an interview, a phone and he was asked six times and could answer , when he and could not answer, when he first initiated contact. and obviously if sue gray is emblematic of others other civil servants, will asking servants, people will be asking , how can government ministers trust if they're going trust their if they're going to defect opposition . well, defect to the opposition. well, indeed. some, of the things indeed. now some, of the things that were read in parliament early was whether or not to early on was whether or not to the civil service code, whether or impartiality was or not due impartiality was a question here. the sue gray was she impartial, whether or not? she had declared any interest . she had declared any interest. indeed, there is any interest to the labour party. all keir starmer she should supposedly have approached the senior to say that she was going to be taking on the job. what was from
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that was that the cabinet office had not yet been informed. what could all of this really mean ? could all of this really mean? james because some people will be saying , well, this shows that be saying, well, this shows that maybe there was kind of bias when boris johnson's when it came to boris johnson's departure, when it to the findings of the partygate report. i mean , is there any report. i mean, is there any accusation that being levelled at. i think there are certainly tory mp who will make that case and i think they will be furious because they went out and defended boris johnson's this and now they as though there was and now they as though there was an injustice here. personally, i think that boris johnson himself praised sue gray throughout the report and when it was published. so i don't think her work is necessarily in the firing line here. what i do think is out of the question how she rules , how she was following rules, how widespread is she did in the widespread is as she did in the civil also labour's civil service and also labour's approach keir starmer approach because. keir starmer member great political hay member made great political hay out anti boris out of being the anti boris johnson. roundhead johnson. he was roundhead to boris's , he was the mr. boris's cavalier, he was the mr. rules, he was the person who was going by process. was going to go by process. he was the prosecutor in
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the lawyer, the prosecutor in chief it turns out chief and now it turns out jeremy is often used to jeremy corbyn is often used to tell commons that tell the house of commons that actually government actually the government rules have breached and that have been breached and that actually should have been actually there should have been the approach should have been registered the job registered and the job appointment should have been consulted upon it was consulted upon before it was made offered accepted by made and offered and accepted by by . so actually, for by sue gray. so actually, for all about being whiter all his talk about being whiter than white, turns out perhaps than white, it turns out perhaps to be distinctly grey. instead there you go. right, you there you go. all right, you very much, james hill. there is political for political correspondent for the spectator now. loads of you have been getting in touch my spectator now. loads of you have bee email ng in touch my spectator now. loads of you have bee email shouttouch my spectator now. loads of you have bee email shout and 1 my spectator now. loads of you have bee email shout and it my spectator now. loads of you have bee email shout and it was my spectator now. loads of you have bee email shout and it was on big email shout and it was on whether or not people have a human right to stay the uk or whether not it is a privilege andifs whether not it is a privilege and it's in light of rishi sunak's supposedly his way of stopping this whole hbos crisis and cutting on illegal immigration as a whole i need from norwich, says the usual do gooders coming out of the woodwork claiming human rights of lawbreaking migrants. why they not consider the human rights of the low paid and homeless whose lives are by people jumping the queue. it's
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interesting you should say that it is strong stuff, but we were leicestershire earlier on and we'll be back in leicestershire shortly where residents of a small town , small community in small town, small community in cork with are about to have a protest about an asylum seeker hotel . you know what i said to hotel. you know what i said to the guy who i interviewed earlier on? i said, well, why? why so about this? why are you so angry about this? and out of his and the first words out of his mouth about the people and the first words out of his mouth jobs about the people and the first words out of his mouth jobs hadyut the people and the first words out of his mouth jobs had existed)eople and the first words out of his mouth jobs had existed atyple and the first words out of his mouth jobs had existed at this whose jobs had existed at this hotel , an escape room that was hotel, an escape room that was there , and a restaurant that was there, and a restaurant that was in hotel and a leisure in this hotel and a leisure facility that they were now out of a job. so wasn't really anything to with necessarily anything to do with necessarily the rise at all. it was very the far rise at all. it was very much rights much do with workers rights actually . so i think you were actually. so i think you were alluding a bit that. what alluding a bit to that. what about are here about people who are here working, dover says, about people who are here work can dover says, about people who are here workcan people dover says, about people who are here workcan people say dover says, about people who are here workcan people say we ver says, about people who are here workcan people say we are says, how can people say we are leaving the migrants in permanent . we don't have permanent limbo. we don't have to come to to allow anyone to come to britain do it. it's not britain to do it. it's not they're given rights . that is an they're given rights. that is an answer to that question. i said the government's the the government's line at the moment appears to it is not moment appears to be it is not a human right to live and work
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here. 0 once again, i believe , i here. 0 once again, i believe, i believe i'm going to house of commons live now to hear from suella braverman oh, i'm sir john fine. an inquiry that there was a failure by the security service to act swiftly enough and problems with the sharing of information between the security service and counter—terrorism police following the publication of the report , the director of the report, the director general of m15 and the head of counter—terrorism policing offered their profound apology ges for not preventing attack . ges for not preventing attack. sir john does not blame any of sirjohn does not blame any of the educational establishments that the bomber attended for failing to identify that he a risk. but he does find that more needs to be done to ensure that education providers share relevant information about students . sir john concludes students. sir john concludes that the bomber should have been subject to prevent referral at some point in 2015 or 2016,
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adding that, however, it is very hard to say what would have happened if he had been approached to prevent it or the channel programme . the police channel programme. the police investigation into the attack operation mountain line is praised , although sirjohn praised, although sir john cannot conclude whether the attack that the attack would have been prevented . he finds have been prevented. he finds that there a significant missed opportunity to take further investigative action that he just might have led to information which could have prevented it . while this is prevented it. while this is welcome and the home office will work at pace , both organisations work at pace, both organisations to act on the chairman's recommendations . we must not recommendations. we must not lose sight of the fact that responsible for the attack lies with bomber and his brother so conclusions require careful. consider madam deputy speaker , consider madam deputy speaker, since 2017, the government has made a number of changes to how
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we deal with and seek to prevent attacks. we have given law and intelligence agencies improved powers . we have strengthened the powers. we have strengthened the controls around access to precursors . we've strengthened precursors. we've strengthened the management of terrorist and terrorist risk in prison and on. we've ended the automatic early release of terrorist in england, wales and scotland and we've ensured that the sentences served by terrorist reflect the severity of their offending . and severity of their offending. and we've strengthened the tools monitoring dangerous people , the monitoring dangerous people, the community. we've invested heavily in unveiling a new counter—terrorism operations centre in 2021 that brings together partners from counter—terrorism, policing the intelligence agencies , the intelligence agencies, the criminal justice system and other government agencies . this other government agencies. this will allow minute by, minute
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collaboration between teams in the police and the m15 . m15 last the police and the m15. m15 last yeah the police and the m15. m15 last year, integration of special into the national policing network will improve our response to the full range of national threats. the skills and ensure better communication between agencies and more consistent and effective national response . work is national response. work is currently to develop a new faith security training scheme to raise security amongst faith communities and help them to mitigate threats . we continue to mitigate threats. we continue to engage with faith organisations and experts, to develop the scheme . in april my right from scheme. in april my right from the from the member witham announced the continuation of the jewish community protective security grant 2022. in may, new funding was allocated said to provide protective security at mosques and muslim faith schools in response to any terrorist attack affecting british
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nationals in the uk or overseas . the home office's victims of terrorism unit works to ensure the right support is available to them. the unit is conducting an internal review to strengthen work. i am overseeing a comprehensive review of the contest strategy to combat terrorism . this follows on from terrorism. this follows on from independent review of prevent , independent review of prevent, led by william shawcross, which the programme's effectiveness stopping people from becoming terrorists or supporting terrorism . and as the terrorism. and as the independent review made clear, prevent requires reform. and i've accepted all of the review's recommendations . it it review's recommendations. it it has underestimated the threat of islamist extremism which remains far the biggest that we face. too often it has minimised the role of ideology in prevent both focus on security not on political correctness . and its political correctness. and its first objective will be to tackle the ideological causes of
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terrorism . the government has terrorism. the government has also developed comprehensive system of support . the owners system of support. the owners and operators of public places across the uk . this includes across the uk. this includes access , research driven access, research driven expertise products delivered by the national security office and the national security office and the centre for protection of infrastructure . but we must go infrastructure. but we must go further. madam deputy speaker martyn's law , formerly known as martyn's law, formerly known as the protect duty , will introduce the protect duty, will introduce proportionate new security requirements for certain public premises throughout the uk . they premises throughout the uk. they will be better prepared, ready to respond and their staff will know what to do in the event of terrorist attack. martin's will clarify who was responsible for security activity at the premises in scope increase , premises in scope increase, accountability . we are also accountability. we are also considering a full inspection function would oversee compliance to provide appropriate advice where necessary to sanction . martin
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necessary to sanction. martin head was one of those killed in manchester. i'm enormously grateful to his mother, fagan murray and the martin lawes team as . well, as to survivors as. well, as to survivors against terror and all security partners, businesses , charities, partners, businesses, charities, local authorities and victims group that have informed our work . i've always been humbled work. i've always been humbled when i've met them and heard about their experiences . the about their experiences. the doctrines that underpin how the emergency services to incidents have improved since the attack . have improved since the attack. so, madam speaker , i want to so, madam speaker, i want to close by once again the anguish and courage of the loved ones, of those who were killed or hurt on that dreadful night that unhed on that dreadful night that united the country in sorrow and, in disgust. we will continue to work non—stop to prevent further such tragedies. being upon others and commend
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this statement to the house, the shadow home secretary is well, that was followed and that is the secretary she was speaking in the house of commons reacting to the manchester arena bombing , clearly saying lessons have been learned. we will do our best to make sure this doesn't again, what in light of an interesting article that she wrote especially as home wrote especially as the home secretary my memory secretary certainly my memory the first time i've ever seen a home secretary dish it home secretary really dish it out to not out when it came to not succumbing certain certain succumbing to certain certain elements of the islamic community in this country specifically she was talking by the issue of the autistic teenager who bought a copy the koran into school, who, as i understand , is potentially now understand, is potentially now to go to hiding as a result of that. but i'm going to move away from move towards from right now and move towards story tributes have been story where tributes have been paid . the three killed in paid. the three people killed in a that left two others a crash that left two others seriously injured. now, all five women, a volkswagen tiguan that came off the a48 in cardiff and crashed into three trees. gwent
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police said , all five people, police said, all five people, including three women and two men, had last been in cardiff in the early hours of saturday and after a night out. let's cross live now to the scene and get an update from our reporterjohn update from our reporter john carson. look, john, thank you very much. i understand the police force might have actually referred itself to watchdog as referred itself to a watchdog as well. going on on? well, well. what's going on on? well, patrick they referred themselves to that watchdog and they said that's all part of common procedure. but we have had to confirmation of the of the three people who have sadly died in in this accident . 21 year olds, eve this accident. 21 year olds, eve smith and darcy ross and 24 year old rafael john were officially confirmed as today. old rafael john were officially confirmed as today . the all five confirmed as today. the all five of them went missing in the early hours of friday of saturday morning , were last seen saturday morning, were last seen around 2 am. and of all their friends and family reported the missing , the police and search
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missing, the police and search parties got under way. it was only in the early hours of this morning that they found that volkswagen take one here in the in the bushes in the trees by this very busy roundabout here on the a40, one of the main routes in and in and out of cardiff and right. tributes have started to be paid here. lots of flowers and balloons being brought members of community, their friends coming in paying that respects respects like saying eve smith were a truly beautiful young girl whose heart was made of gold . one of the was made of gold. one of the other friends saying that darcy ross, i'm going to miss you. you're a real ray of sunshine. we know that , of course, 20 year we know that, of course, 20 year old sophie ruston and 32 year old sophie ruston and 32 year old shae locklin still in hospital, i believe , with hospital, i believe, with serious injuries. but there are questions from the community here, particular around the time it took to find this car and whether anything could have been donein whether anything could have been done in that time period. in the
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meantime, police the car was found from a helical doctor in the early hours of this morning. but members of the community here, friends of the girl saying that it was a member of the pubuc that it was a member of the public and were disappointed with the response from the police their to their reports police to their to their reports of some of the missing. so questions for the police to answer here, unless you mention they have been referred themselves to that watchdog as this investigation get underway, the police presence now ceases to exist. they've moved on here. the site here has been open for many members of, the site here has been open for many members of , the public, to many members of, the public, to lay tributes and also go and see and actually around the area where the car is believed have crashed. as you can see on the on the trees and branches around where that car of the was involved in the accident . still involved in the accident. still quite unsure about the details of how that accident happened. the road leading up to roundabout here is very windy, very bendy as you approach the roundabout as you approach the roundabout as you approach the roundabout so lots of questions still to be around how the
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accident happened and of course for the police to answer members of the community around their response when it was announced initially it's just a missing persons inquiry. initially it's just a missing persons inquiry . jack, thank you persons inquiry. jack, thank you very much. john allison, who is at the scene of that particular incident in wales. now we're moving on because if you don't watch free speech nation gb news every sunday, then you are missing out. okay i know i'm not just paid to say that you genuinely because it tackles some of the most important issues provides issues around and provides plenty the way as plenty of laughs the way as well. last night, if you've well. but last night, if you've not this, by the way , got not seen this, by the way, got to out online. but to check it out online. but last night viewers listeners were night viewers and listeners were at rather than with one of the guests. check what happened when presenter steve allen spoke to a chap the name called jonathan . chap the name called jonathan. codeis chap the name called jonathan. code is none other than media in crisis pr lawyer jonathan code who was actually recently asked to act for matt hancock . thank to act for matt hancock. thank you for joining to act for matt hancock. thank you forjoining me. to act for matt hancock. thank you forjoining me . yes i have you forjoining me. yes i have to say that's disappointing
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because i made it absolutely clear to your programme i asked them not to disclose that . and them not to disclose that. and thatis them not to disclose that. and that is very very poor journalism . okay. well, it seems journalism. okay. well, it seems like i mean, are you okay to carry or is that the kind of thing that means you don't want to carry on? no no. apologise doesn't mean anything because i disagree with what a lot of say. but you you stood there in front of a baying audience throwing poo left, right and centre man . poo left, right and centre man. matt hancock. when your own television station has engaged in correspondence with me where i explain that one know if i'm in position to be able to comment on this and mention that i've been approached by matt hancock. i asked you not to mention that. i know eventually he might speak to you. you have no question. do you think? right. yes. in the specific example, i'm about to say you
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do. okay. well, then , so god do. okay. well, then, so god help you if you really think that god allegations confidence are worth that little . i don't are worth that little. i don't believe you . that's right. it's believe you. that's right. it's me, case. is there any case? i've just been given the actual email that you sent to my producer which they'd like me to read out as courtesy. the lady who approached to ask for my. i would be grateful . it was would be grateful. it was mentioned that he asked me to act for him. oh, so seems that you are that you're asking , you are that you're asking, right? that it's my mistake i missed the. no, i take all of that back and that's politics. oh, right , that back and that's politics. oh, right, wrong. i'll go with that paper. well, it must be said that it's been reported that a spokesperson for matt hancock has said the former health has never health secretary has never spoken to met jonathan coat . i'm spoken to met jonathan coat. i'm delighted to say i am joined by steve and alan staveley , a steve and alan staveley, a wonderful man. firstly, well yesterday with handling all of that , i yesterday with handling all of that, i wanted to yesterday with handling all of that , i wanted to get yesterday with handling all of
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that, i wanted to get a yesterday with handling all of that , i wanted to get a little that, i wanted to get a little bit of behind the scenes info on this been about this because it's been about a million times, more than a million times, more than a million times, more than a million times on gb news. it's what's a steve for a second is the world's must have fallen out your backside that yeah i've got certain muscles that i didn't know i have is still not unblemished you're right as soon as it happened i oh works there's been a mistake and the tone of that mistake know if it was an honest mistake. i tried to apologise and didn't want to spend minute spend the full ten minute interview told how bad i interview being told how bad i was as luke . i'll apologise and was as luke. i'll apologise and let's get some let's move on. let's get some meat of the dish . so it was a meat of the dish. so it was a few minutes until i got a note in that said getting the in my ear that said getting the email and words were like , email now and words were like, because there's no way we were the email to make us look worse. so it was a case like, let's try and get this discussion on. but at some point i will have a trump card to play and it felt good , i'll be honest. so will good, i'll be honest. so will you letting him run quite a bit, getting progressively and more angry, in the back of angry, knowing in the back of your that you about to your mind that you were about to absolutely well, not
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absolutely him. well, not really, because i think the sting ends being topic, but sting ends up being topic, but that the problem. that was the problem. he wouldn't not that wouldn't get topic and not that i'm here to do a pile on, i'm not here to do a pile on, but have preferred have but i would have preferred have a discussion with a who a discussion with a person who knows do knows way about law than i do about confidentiality non—disclosure is an issue of pubuc non—disclosure is an issue of public interest. i just couldn't get onto that. so was trying get onto that. so i was trying to proper discussion on to have a proper discussion on that which some reason he that which for some reason he seems very angry at me. i'm not sure but then it was sure what i did. but then it was nice to know the end of it nice to know that the end of it might an that might include. an email that somewhat us the thing somewhat saved us the thing about having a audience on about having a live audience on that show is you know you can go either way think their either way but i think their response either way but i think their respons
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the man himself. he was speaking to jonathan coe like i there is a longer version of that. you can go and check it out online. factual a factual but now it's got a little behind little bit of a behind the scenes wasn't says to scenes thing that wasn't says to the nature of what on the exact nature of what went on time quick break now. but time for a quick break now. but in few minutes in just a few minutes will be live to village kag live to the village of kag within where within leicestershire, where locals about to start a locals are about to start a protest about . plans for 250 protest about. plans for 250 asylum seekers to be housed and asylum seekers to be housed and a hotel. and i will ask , is it a a hotel. and i will ask, is it a human rights or a privilege to be a british citizen? surely .
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i yes. all right. welcome along, everybody . 5 yes. all right. welcome along, everybody. 5 pm. here yes. all right. welcome along, everybody . 5 pm. here with me, everybody. 5 pm. here with me, patrick christys gb news. here's what's coming up this hour. wow. there's only one place to start. isn't that ? is the channel isn't that? is the channel migrant crackdown? ritchie sunak thinks he must have finally found a solution to not just the small boats crisis, but, frankly, immigration as
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frankly, illegal immigration as a whole. and we will be going as well to. leicestershire, where people local , residents are up people local, residents are up in arms. they are protest ing about an asylum seeker hotel in the i am going to be having a big debate as well this hour is actually human right to be able to come live and work in britain or should be a privilege. what else have i got the world of politics. matt hancock it remains quite a bad time to be. matt hancock it he stands accused of covid warfare trying to allegedly anyway scare the pants off us all with some kind new covid variant moves in the world of politics because is sue gray people. yes we took an urgent question in the house of commons just about an hour ago on this show and we're still picking the bones about it because serious because it raises serious questions . the impartiality of questions. the impartiality of the civil service . she was in the civil service. she was in charge of the old partygate brigade, wasn't she? and then now, to be now, of course, going to be labour's chief of staff impartiality. service impartiality. the civil service and whether or due process
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and whether or not due process was followed as well. the relationship over the last tweet her and keir on the labour party on just a finish is all off at the end as well. i'm going to be talking about prince harry because he's hot water well kind of saying taking hard drugs was good for his mental health people saying actually, harry, it can be deadly on black american comedian chris rock has come and slammed meghan come out and slammed meghan markle she faced from the markle, what she faced from the royal wasn't racism. royal family wasn't racism. all of your way much, much more of that your way much, much more . sure you stay with me . jake. . sure you stay with me. jake. a little reminder of what i've got coming your way in terms of a big debate gbviews@gbnews.uk is it's a basic human right to be a british citizen or should it be a privilege ? so we're going to a privilege? so we're going to be debating that. that's coming in half an hour. but right now, though , i'm going throw you though, i'm going to throw you over news of the for . over to the news of the for. world patrick. thank you. and
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good to you. our top story on gb news this evening, former police officer wayne cozens has been sentenced to a further 90 months in prison after pleading guilty to three charges of in indecent exposure . in one instance, the exposure. in one instance, the court how he was meant to be on duty and working from home when . he exposed himself at a woman in a country lane and that just months before he murdered sarah everard , the 50 year old is everard, the 50 year old is already serving a whole life sentence for the murder of ms. in 2021. in statement, the metropolitan police said , the metropolitan police said, the latest crimes brought shame us all at the service . well, in all at the service. well, in other news today, charity groups are warning thousands of asylum will be left permanently in limbo under proposed plans to tackle small boats crossing the channel. the new legislation would mean those who arrive on would mean those who arrive on would be prevented from claiming asylum and would be banned from returning to the uk . the returning to the uk. the government says it's getting a
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grip on illegal migration and promised more safe routes for asylum seekers and that comes as gb news reveals more than 3000 people have crossed the channel so far this year nearly double the year before. shadow home secretary yvette cooper says the government isn't doing enough to fix the problem . we need action fix the problem. we need action to. stop the dangerous boat crossings are putting lives at risk and also border security . risk and also border security. that's why we've called for new cross border police unit to go after the criminal gangs that are really driving this as well as a new agreement with france and an overhaul of the asylum system to end use. but all we've got so far at the moment is just from the government that look , from the government that look, they're a repeat of the headunes they're a repeat of the headlines they had around last year's bill which just didn't work and ended up making things worse . tributes have been paid worse. tributes have been paid to three people killed in a car crash . cardiff. 21 year old eve
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crash. cardiff. 21 year old eve smith and darcy ross and 24 year old rafal jean. all died in the accident. two others, 20 year old sophie russell and 32 year old sophie russell and 32 year old shane loughlin, have been left injured. police investigate it in the crash say the group went missing after a night out on friday. they were last seen in the early hours of saturday morning cabinet have accused sue gray on the labour party of having breaching of breaching impartiality rules in a civil service. confirmed last week that the former serious civil servant who led the investigation into partygate plans to become sir keir starmer is new chief of staff. the government has cast doubts on whether grey has followed due to notify officials regarding her appointment at an urgent question this afternoon. the deputy labour leader, angela rayner accused . the government rayner accused. the government of stirring up conspiracy . of stirring up conspiracy. paymaster general quin demanded labour a record of their
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meetings with ms. grey. the party opposite talks rules. they talk about transparency. they talk about transparency. they talk about transparency. they talk about standards in public life . given all the constant life. given all the constant talk, it's time they walked the walk . why are they refusing to walk. why are they refusing to publish? were they met with sue gray ? why are they being gray? why are they being evasive? why can't they tell us what they discussed? where they met? how they met. their refusal do so begs the question exactly what is labour trying to hide hide . piers and are warning the hide. piers and are warning the prime minister's bill is likely to be breach of the european on human rights. the proposals aim to ensure minimum standards dunng to ensure minimum standards during industrial across six sectors include health and transport. but a report by the cross—party joint committee on human rights has called the government to reconsider the legislation . the warning comes
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legislation. the warning comes as the unite union has called off the latest upcoming ambulance strikes in england in to hold pay talks with the government . the industrial government. the industrial action had been due to take place today and fire fighters have voted overwhelmingly to accept a new pay offer ending. the prospect of strike action. the prospect of strike action. the deal for a 7% paying increase backdated to july last year plus , an additional 5% from year plus, an additional 5% from july. 96% of fire brigades. union members accepted the offer. but general secretary wrack admitted it was real terms peak cut . now novak djokovic has peak cut. now novak djokovic has been forced to withdraw from the indian wells tennis tournament in california because of his covid vaccination status . covid vaccination status. international visitors , the international visitors, the united states are required to two jabs against coronavirus , two jabs against coronavirus, but the world's number one tennis player is on. the country's restriction ins are
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due to end next month . and the due to end next month. and the tennis star had been hoping for a special exemption as . the a special exemption as. the tournament starts on wednesday . tournament starts on wednesday. that's all from me for now. i'm back in half an hour. so yes, welcome aboard. now, lots to get through this hour and few minutes. i will be going live from a protest about plans to place 250 asylum seekers in a hotel in a small leicestershire village. but channel migrants a legally entering the uk will be removed and then banned from any return under new legislation set to be revealed tomorrow . more to be revealed tomorrow. more than 3000 people have crossed the english channel small boats so far this year , 46,000 enter so far this year, 46,000 enter britain in similar fashion year. but the government is expected to outline quite bold plans actually, which it believes will get a grip on illegal
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immigration. it get a grip on illegal immigration . it would see people immigration. it would see people arriving , small boats removed arriving, small boats removed from the uk , banned from future from the uk, banned from future re—entry and unable to apply for british citizenship. charities of have criticised the move as saying is unworkable that we'd have to leave migrants in limbo or break law. labour has questioned timing of the announcement. they think it's an electoral tactic and jonathan golez joins me who is a conservative mp for stoke on trent north jonathan. great thank you very much for coming back on the show. what do you make of these plans? people are saying, actually, you saying, well, actually, you ought to do them ought to be able to do them unless contravene the unless we contravene the international think international law. well think the prime minister deserves full credit for being brave and bold. quite clearly against the woke her party the want to pretend that everyone coming over is somehow from safe somehow fleeing war from safe mainland france and we all know the truth. their economic . the the truth. their economic. the idea someone arrive here idea that someone arrive here illegally means that far from able to claim asylum is correct . they should be allowed to try and . therefore able and return again. therefore able to and that . that's
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to try. and that. that's correct. should correct. and we should absolutely be using the offshoring in, the offshoring powers in, the national borders act through deals with and albania deals with rwanda and albania and. i hope many other third safe to get people safe countries to get people come illegally our come here illegally off our shores because the quicker we do that, quick break apart that, the quick break apart the smuggling model supposedly smuggling gangs model supposedly what going forward. what will happen going forward. it mean that anyone who it would mean that anyone who comes this country through an comes to this country through an irregular if they comes to this country through an irreglcome if they comes to this country through an irreglcome from if they comes to this country through an irreglcome from a if they comes to this country through an irreglcome from a warf they comes to this country through an irreglcome from a war torny have come from a war torn country country ruled by country or a country ruled by the afghanistan, even the taliban, afghanistan, even they would not be allowed to seek asylum here. and once they've got would be banned from seeking asylum again in the future and banned from visiting . do you agree that ? i do . do you agree with that? i do agree with that because when you're claiming asylum, you should be shopping around for the country that you want the one country that you want to go your life go to. fleeing for your life means claiming asylum means you're claiming asylum in the country you come the same country that you come across, something baroness scotland, labour scotland, the former labour minister thought. and minister once thought. and so the should actually the labour party should actually try to again, if they try to once again, if they can finally the courage to stand finally get the courage to stand up hard left on twitter. up to the hard left on twitter. and so i think it's entirely appropriate for people to told that through safe third
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that coming through safe third countries like france like germany. nice for your members u.n. members. germany. nice for your members u.n. members . you know in france u.n. members. you know in france case the u.n. founder co—founded country is actually no need to have to come here illegally . we have to come here illegally. we have to come here illegally. we have a points based immigration system, particularly when you've got a third of entries from albania, which is obviously outrageous. when they don't need to come here at all and get a flight. as we've said, patrick, on show before, with on this show before, with 28 quid, and quid, they only spend four and a half to smuggle yourself half grants to smuggle yourself on unseaworthy illegally on a unci unseaworthy illegally . i'm going to go shortly. jonathan to protest outside a hotel in leicestershire. a small town called kagawa in leicestershire . they are quite leicestershire. they are quite angry that would appear that 250 asylum seekers are going to be placed in that hotel . now i asylum seekers are going to be placed in that hotel. now i am going to use the phrase asylum seekers quite loosely there because as we were told initially that they were all from afghanistan over the course of this show has emerged that of this show it has emerged that actually them are actually some them are supposedly from egypt, them supposedly from egypt, some them might etc. so might be from somalia, etc. so clearly don't know with
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clearly we don't know with anything like the clarity that was initially presented to us where people have come where these people have come from, the locals there are saying that people have jobs at that hotel and at event sites within the hotels there was a restaurant there. apparently there was an escape room in. i'm wondering, jonathan, do you think that it should be illegal for people to lose that in order to make for asylum seekers or whoever coming in, having to live these hotels ? well, at the live these hotels? well, at the very least, people should be financially compensated , financially compensated, appropriately. i mean, so contrary to sadly taking over, one of which is directly opposite the railway station . opposite the railway station. it's not it's jobs going there. hotel space for those are coming to our city. 6 million visitors that come to so contrary will see as a gateway into . our see as a gateway into. our cities, sadly, is now closed . cities, sadly, is now closed. and another one, which actually has to be port facilities where, young are learning to young people are learning to swim elderly were swim at. elderly people were having to keep fit. and having time to keep fit. and obviously deal with loneliness as well obviously weddings as well as obviously weddings that would take place there, as
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well as outrageous and inappropriate . and what i want inappropriate. and what i want to hear from the prime minister very we're doing very quickly is what we're doing about accommodation about alternative accommodation 7 about alternative accommodation ? because the plans, some are very but the be very exciting, but the must be there all people to there about where all people to be other than hotels and be priced other than hotels and how are we going to make sure that those currently and those coming before coming here today before legislation comes in how quickly we going to them off british we going to get them off british shores return pioneer shores and return to our pioneer or like the countries. or others like the countries. jonathan that this topic jonathan i know that this topic is top of your agenda is absolutely top of your agenda . okay. are all over this . okay. you are all over this stuff. rishi sunak is supposedly going to be revealing what is a grand plan is tomorrow. you must be banging on his door saying to him i a sneak him rishi, can i get a sneak peek this? what do you know about what we're going to hear from sunak tomorrow , from rishi sunak tomorrow, do you you give you think? can you give us a little into please. i little insight into please. i i haven't had any detail. little insight into please. i i haven't had any detail . all i've haven't had any detail. all i've had is what the media reports are suggesting is coming. i look to seeing the legislation presented , and i think that the presented, and i think that the one area that i really want us to see is to be bravest of is that we should derogate from the
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isa, h.r. two, sort them from delaying what inevitably is going to take a time through the legal course all domestic country. what my problem with that but we should have a european court and european judges telling us to judges telling us what to do with our that with borders and our laws that sovereignty the united kingdom. so happens that is, as you so what happens that is, as you well know , people go well, the well know, people go well, the only two countries who are not doing russia and doing that is russia and belarus. all know or belarus. and we all know or belarus. and we all know or belarus we want to be the belarus do we want to be in the same bracket the. if same bracket as the. if rishi sunak wants to make work. sunak wants to make this work. as can see the minute as far as i can see the minute the only can do that is the only way you can do that is if something what if he does something like what you us out you just which is bring us out the uk , take us out remove us the uk, take us out remove us from international legal from our international legal obugafions. from our international legal obligations . at the moment obligations. at the moment i can't other of him can't see any other way of him managing what he managing to pull off what he wants unless we do that. wants to do unless we do that. so let's say he does so let's say that's he does tomorrow. okay. how you tomorrow. okay. how do you respond who say respond to those people who say look, this will turn us into russia or belarus ? well, i russia or belarus? well, i remind them the derogation doesn't mean actually fully derogation. simply saying on this particular issue, which is uk sovereignty and uk laws and
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all uk borders, that we the right to self—determine how to control those and that france has derogation for double the rate that we currently do in this country. and much more as well. so if they want to go do some pious signalling, go some pious virtue signalling, go over europe and do some pious virtue signalling, go ovover europe and do some pious virtue signalling, go ovover because europe and do some pious virtue signalling, go ovover because i'erope and do some pious virtue signalling, go ovover because i'm boredand do it over because i'm bored of heanng it over because i'm bored of hearing it . jonathan, thank hearing over it. jonathan, thank you . fantastic to have you very much. fantastic to have you very much. fantastic to have you on the show. ever , glazer you on the show. as ever, glazer is the conservative mp for stoke on trent north and that is in response initially anyway to what is going to happen is going to rishi to big news tomorrow when rishi sunak makes his big announcement. that on this announcement. also that on this issue and local are currently protesting over a plan to accommodate 250 asylum seekers at. the new lodge hotel in a small village of kag with a we've been picking up on this since earlier on. that protest frankly due to start i think any moment. we wanted to understand a bit more about. this is the asylum seeker hotel issue it gets a lot you going. there is probably one in your town or maybe even village. can cross maybe even village. we can cross over now to. gb news east over now to. gb news is east midlands reports little midlands reports a little less
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who process ? well, who is out this process? well, thank you very, very much. can you you are you just the scene why you are there? what's taking place and why . good afternoon, why please. good afternoon, patrick. yeah, we've been bringing you this story for the whole of the afternoon earlier , whole of the afternoon earlier, we were outside of the new lodge hotel , where at we were outside of the new lodge hotel, where at least some of the 250 asylum seekers that are going to be living for at least the next 12 to 15 months have already been getting accustomed to life in in this sleepy little village of kag with of course, that's why there is a protest happening right now here, which is about maybe half a mile away from it. this is really the village square, i suppose there's a small car park, there's a small car park, there's co—op , there's a there's a co—op, there's a church over on one side. and then behind me, you can see that there's maybe about hundred there's maybe about a hundred or so have come to so people that have come to voice concerns as to the voice their concerns as to the local hotel, which until was the place where children would to swim . people would have their swim. people would have their weddings . those sorts of things weddings. those sorts of things won't be happening here anymore . and that's really one of the
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concerns that i've been hearing from in north from that are here in north leicestershire, just quite close to leicestershire, derbyshire, nottingham she brought up. it really is about access to resources from what i've been it also seems to be about there's only about 4000 or so people that here 250 people moving in. from what i'm hearing, if they are young men . that seems to be are young men. that seems to be raising a little bit of concern in the local community. you can people pip in in the background if it's anything like strikes that's usually because the support it . what you'll also support for it. what you'll also see if you on television is that there is people wearing kind of pink and purple bibs those are police liaison behind my camera you can't see patrick there's a big four by four police jeep. there's a classic police car on the other side. and i've probably counted all in all, about maybe six or eight police officers that are here at this event. now, this is the second protest of this sort . excuse me, protest of this sort. excuse me, last also a protest last week there also a protest at that protest . at least two
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at that protest. at least two people were arrested . two people people were arrested. two people have been charged one of them was a 26 year old man. he's been charged with assaulting a police expected courts in expected in magistrate courts in the coming week. and then there was a year man who was also a four year old man who was also a four year old man who was charged with obstructing a highway. so that's why this protest is happening here in the centre town an area that's centre of town in an area that's pedestrianised rather than directly of the hotel where it did cover the whole of all the street. now i'm told that 400 people were there at that time . people were there at that time. it doesn't seem be that it doesn't seem to be that number now, it number right now, but it is quite early. this protest quite early. and this protest expected lead up to the expected to lead right up to the pansh expected to lead right up to the parish , which starts parish council, which starts around 7:00. yeah, no, absolutely . well, just just very absolutely. well, just just very quietly. sorry, will, just very quickly on this, we were all told initially this told think initially that this was be around 250 asked an was going be around 250 asked an asylum seekers that appears to be the line initially and now maybe that's changing slightly . maybe that's changing slightly. we actually know exactly where all of these people are from . all of these people are from. yes, well, i think the office reserves the right to not say
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exactly who these people are and exactly who these people are and exactly where they're from with any of these sorts of situations. what tends to happen is the local mp for this instance, andrew bridgen , finds instance, andrew bridgen, finds out bits of information through . their conversation with the home office and the home office tells them parts of that information and they report information and then they report it to the media and to the public. think the idea of public. so i think the idea of potentially them being mainly afghans come from from afghans may have come from from politicians and insignificant people that might a lot more than what exactly happening with these sorts of things. they're always a little bit murky, but from the conversations that i've been with some of the been having with some of the people hotel, one of people are in that hotel, one of them certainly from iran . them was certainly from iran. one them was certainly from one of them was certainly from egypt. it tends to be that egypt. and it tends to be that they middle countries they are from middle countries and north african countries look well. you very, very much. well. thank you very, very much. thank for bringing us this thank you for bringing us this story doubt keeping us story and no doubt keeping us abreast it as evening abreast of it as the evening progresses. just abreast of it as the evening prothe;ses. just abreast of it as the evening prothe scene just abreast of it as the evening prothe scene now just abreast of it as the evening prothe scene now that just abreast of it as the evening prothe scene now that same: on the scene now that same leicestershire now again i just want to raise a few questions about this and we're going to be having big debate shortly,
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having a big debate shortly, which whether or not this which is to whether or not this is a human have is a human right to have a passport or whether or it passport or whether or not it should privilege and should be a privilege and beanng should be a privilege and bearing mind as well that the bearing in mind as well that the people in that local area, i think represents people think represents a lot of people in other local areas. in a lot of other local areas. what was fascinating was that interviewing somebody that on the ground at that protest, people say, oh, well, they're all members the far right. all members of the far right. well, they were most concerned about people that about was it the people in that hotel accompanying hotel and, the accompanying restaurants little events restaurants and little events had with no had lost their jobs with no nofice had lost their jobs with no notice and particular area. i mean, really, that was a question more about workers rights and also access to their local facilities like for example that gp surgery. i find is only one shop in the area as well. heard mentioned well. i heard nothing mentioned whatsoever about race or ethnicity . i thought that was ethnicity. i thought that was worthwhile mentioning. actually coming up, we discuss the coming up, we will discuss the messages which suggest that matt hancock wanted to frighten the pants everyone with news pants off everyone with news about covid various . pants off everyone with news about covid various. i'm about the covid various. i'm asking whether or not it's hard to whether or not it was to say whether or not it was psychologic warfare. see psychologic warfare. i'll see you of minutes
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two big political stories doing rounds at the moment. there is, of course, the lockdown. for our latest with matt hancock would appear to show that he to scare the pants off the nation with some covid variant. i'm asking whether or not is whether or not that is tantamount psychological tantamount to psychological warfare. is, course as warfare. there is, of course as well the sue gray latest the lady who was in charge of policy gate inquiry civil servant at the time now he's now to be anyway would appear labour policies of staff urgent question earlier in the commons massive question marks over the impartiality of the civil and her links to. both labour and sir keir starmer before she went off and took this job. but i'm going to get the latest from darren mccaffrey who is political , i darren mccaffrey who is political, i believe i think donald is joining us right now. yes he is there is a right now, darren, let's start with sue gray, if that's. all right. because that was the urgent question. and then i'm going to
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veer onto the lockdown files. what or crucially not what do we know or crucially not know the gray labour know about the sue gray labour appointments stands . well, appointments as it stands. well, so this was a question came about conservative mps who are pretty about the impulse reality, if you like, of the civil service and all of this. of course, urgent questions can only be asked of government . and only be asked of government. and so this was a sort mp asking a conservative government minister about the supposed appointment of sue gray to the chief of staff of the labour party now in answer it was clear that the government are not terribly happy about this appointment and that they feel they're all questions to answer . the answer questions to answer. the answer it came from jeremy quin . he's it came from jeremy quin. he's a cabinet office minister and said that the cabinet office is looking into the resignation and the circumstances , sue grey's the circumstances, sue grey's resignation, he says , is resignation, he says, is unprecedented for a serving permanent secretary to resign and take up a senior position with the labour leader , the
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with the labour leader, the opposition. it is an exceptional situation and he said and he was disappointed by the decision that she had taken. so the government are looking into all this still continue questions about when these potential discussions the golden began. so between keir starmer and sue gray , the labour leader, was gray, the labour leader, was asked about this on the radio this morning. patrick and fergie didn't have an answer to he didn't have an answer to it. he said short while ago but not said a short while ago but not been to draw on a date been willing to draw on a date so labour for their part this afternoon saying that the conservatives indulging conservatives are indulging themselves in conspiracy theories with angela rayner essentially saying that the conservatives using parliamentary time to indulge in the conspiracy theories of the former prime minister and his gang. former prime minister and his gang . but in former prime minister and his gang. but in the end this controversy is not going away, not least of all because i think frankly, labour haven't necessarily been as open and transparent about this entire process as they could have been. yeah, absolutely. what was out in parliament now was sue in parliament now was the sue gray apparently for the gray apparently resigned for the civil service on the 2nd of
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march. labour announced the march. the labour announced the job on 3rd of march. and job offer on 3rd of march. and was she supposed to have the government aware of this in the meantime which quite clearly was stated in parliament that she hadnt stated in parliament that she hadn't done lots of questions that which you've identified. but isn't away. but something else isn't away. darren big story darren is another big story which is the lockdown files. i specifically about matt hancock rejecting the plan to cut isolation, to cut lockdowns because he didn't want to appear like they'd made a mistake, which don't think is a particularly good reason to do , particularly good reason to do, but also wanted to scare the backside of nation with a backside of the nation with a new variant. the latest new variant. what's the latest revelations in the lockdown files . you referred to this in files. you referred to this in the sense that the government at all times said that they were following the science, if you like, this pandemic. like, throughout this pandemic. yet at from yet it seems that at least from what seen that actually what seen so far, that actually some of scientific advice some of the scientific advice was informing the government, telling the government to be a bit more lenient rather than decoding it when it came to some of these lockdown , not least of of these lockdown, not least of all say on quarantine all you say on the quarantine periods, that had to periods, that people had to isolate themselves for when they
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tested positive the chief medical seemed to medical officer seemed to actually that could be actually that number could be lowered from days yet. the lowered from 14 days yet. the response from the then health secretary hancock , was, secretary matt hancock, was, well, a second. if we do well, hold on a second. if we do actually to actually look rather hasty to look , may have made a look like, we may have made a mistake in. the past, you mistake in. the past, as you say, necessarily good say, not necessarily a good reason a policy. reason for conducting a policy. there's a whole other range of issues on and yet you issues on that. and yet you talked about this idea of unleashing a new variant now that , wasn't unleashing a new variant now that, wasn't an actual new variant just it was bringing up the fact that there have different variations in the original covid virus . but the original covid virus. but the use of the language the use of what someone describes as project is clearly concerning. many this sense that the government were trying to kind of frighten people into obeying some of these lockdown rules. now, in saying, of some of these lockdown rules. now, in saying , of course, the now, in saying, of course, the government would argue at all times they did follow the science, that there is a public inquiry, that these are selected measures, that messages that journalists decided to pick out. it may not tell the full story . it may not tell the full story. it may not tell the full story. i would also suggest i don't
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think rocked the think it's rocked the foundations we knew foundations of what we knew about what happened during the covid. but has provided a lot covid. but it has provided a lot of colour. it's pulled back curtain a little bit and it's showing, i think, fairly obvious side to the politics that are necessarily in whatsapp messages that many people thought obviously would be private people would suggest if everyone to read everyone's whatsapp messages, not messages, they might not terribly in the in the terribly good in the in the whole but is whole lot today but this is politics it matters because politics and it matters because clearly impacted clearly these measures impacted single one of in the country single one of us in the country . yes. all right. look, darren, thank very much darren thank you very much darren mccaffrey that political mccaffrey that our political editor up with editor bring you up to date with two political stories . but two big political stories. but you remember sir keir you might remember sir keir starmer called for stricter lockdown measures didn't see and even that johnson even said that boris johnson was risking country into a risking leading country into a summer of chaos confusion when he ease the rules in 2021. so wanted to get the labour perspective on this now that they've locked down files and whatsapps coming out in the whatsapps are coming out in the wash former wash and joining is the former labour adviser and labour party adviser and columnist is paul riches. paul, thank you very much to have you
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on show. right. so firstly, on the show. right. so firstly, what you make of the latest what do you make of the latest batch these lockdown messages batch of these lockdown messages is that whitty apparently is that whitty was apparently hancock to come out, have a lockdown sooner . the evidence lockdown sooner. the evidence appeared to be that we didn't necessarily need to have this lockdown , the isolation didn't lockdown, the isolation didn't need to be the length of time that it was . and hancock was that it was. and hancock was saying, actually it might saying, well, actually it might make look bad if we come out. make us look bad if we come out. what make of that ? well, what do you make of that? well, your that just your correspondent that just used word and it used the word ugliness and it does show the very ugly side of politics where this particular political leadership seem to be more obsessed about their own positions, own standing in positions, their own standing in pubuc positions, their own standing in public eye, their own political futures than thinking about the best possible outcomes in terms of public health. it just reveals a kind of a vanity and another says of the heart of government and now you're, of course, is right to say, if all of our whatsapp messages were read in public, you would be pretty . but you know, we're not pretty. but you know, we're not cabinet ministers , are we? we cabinet ministers, are we? we are in the middle of a pandemic
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where we're to save where we're trying to save hundreds lives . hundreds of thousands of lives. just rather just it's really rather disappointing, i think, to say this was going behind this is what was going behind the can i just ask, the scenes. can i just ask, though, the same not apply though, does the same not apply for labour party who were for the labour party who were actually for longer on, actually calling for longer on, stricter lockdowns ? well that's stricter lockdowns? well that's an argument about the policy , an argument about the policy, whether that was right or not. but i don't think the labour party will call you back on what would make them look good in the papers. know, i think you papers. you know, i think you just mentioned whatsapp the most about hong . just just quickly on about hong. just just quickly on that poll, what would the labour policy do you think or what would have been advising the labour party to do in this situation? because is it not reasonable to suspect there was quite a lot of virtue signalling, taking place, mainly quite a lot of virtue signallithe taking place, mainly quite a lot of virtue signallithe preservation. mainly quite a lot of virtue signallithe preservation life?nly around the preservation life? and i mean, can you actually honestly that the labour party in situation would in that situation would have what us of what just brought us out of lockdown earlier. they weren't calling for that at the time well , i think calling for that at the time well, i think my main piece of advice would have been the thing that i was when entered that i was taught when i entered
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is down anything is to never write down anything , not happy see across the , not happy to see across the national newspaper headlines. you , if you look at the you know, if you look at the traffic of ten to and from dunng traffic of ten to and from during the great financial crash for example it didn't this kind of awful narcissist vainglorious style that hancock has embraced and even sure the expenses scandal which i was in government for, too, i mean even then it wasn't quite tone of and i was going to i was going to look like in the in press and the media and you know you could say that's just because that's what's happened that's what is. but office it does belie but the office it does belie a sort of process and sort of thought process and a culture at the heart of government . the big question, government. the big question, though, is, patrick, where is the you know , we had the inquiry? you know, we had a proper inquiry going on of proper inquiry going on all of stuff being discussed stuff would be being discussed in by legal minds. stuff would be being discussed in by legal minds . you in public by legal minds. you know, we'd all be able to look at it properly through prism of at it properly through prism of a proper inquiry. the pandemic's been over for months and when you started it. yes where is it? yeah, well look, i think we all
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want this official inquiry. that's part of just a quick one from me. if that's all right. and it's about the likes revelations it to sue. revelations and it comes to sue. great questions will be a better word. revelation is word. actually the revelation is not been revealed. not much has been revealed. and that's actually that's the point actually isn't there. comes the there. so when it comes to the oversee starmer know oversee keir starmer know supposedly forensic supposedly a man of absolute 100% integrity. i think people will it quite hard to believe that sue gray resigns on the 2nd of march and is offered a job by labour publicly on the of march, and there was no interaction that may have broken civil service code of conduct between now and that. and keir starmer would have had a duty to uphold that , have had a duty to uphold that, wouldn't he? what do you think ? wouldn't he? what do you think? well, i mean, obviously now i did do it and neither does anyone else at this stage. but it is one of those other signs that serious minded are coming to labour, wanting to work for labour despite illustrious long careers . other professions, careers. other professions, including the civil service . i including the civil service. i mean, being a civil servant doesn't mean you have any political views until all. it
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just means that you serve the government the and are government the day and you are neutral. once you stop being neutral. so once you stop being a civil servant. you can what a civil servant. you can do what you you know, she's you want and you know, she's a one and one person amongst many from worlds business all from worlds of business and all kinds other things, where kinds of other things, where if you're the next you're thinking the next government thinking that government and thinking that might be government, so might be a labour government, so do own a tweet poll, do you do do own a tweet poll, do you do do you honestly that you do you honestly think that you were a labour civil serving? she may well be. well, if you weren't if you were a labour supporter and your son was quite high up in the labour party as a you know, was labour party's irish brigade or whatever it is . and you were working in the civil service and then you were such as opposed to the labour party that apparently you would want to go back to the labour party as soon as you possibly could. you see could. do you want to see that you political you wouldn't let your political views judgement . you views cloud your judgement. you think you could be truly independent and objective? do you think realistically. well, our civil service ethos is based
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on neutrality and that ability to serve the government of the day. we have a neutral civil service that works. whichever ministers they are landed . and ministers they are landed. and that's the basic why why , why? that's the basic why why, why? why keir starmer being so shady about he contacted sue gray and what relationship ship they had pnor what relationship ship they had prior because that should be an easy answer you'd be able to answer. it wouldn't. you i'd be able to say never. but why can't sir keir? imagine because sir keir? i imagine it's because there is a sort of a story that needs to be told, but they need to sort of, sort out, get their ducksin to sort of, sort out, get their ducks in a row, make they singing . well, just getting the singing. well, just getting the truth in right so that truth right in the right so that there's of , you know, there's no sort of, you know, follow afterwards a person follow up afterwards as a person a reasonable thing do, given a reasonable thing to do, given the scrutiny will the level of scrutiny will be. there a huge level of skills there is a huge level of skills your level of spend and i i'm here it. i am here it. thank here for it. i am here it. thank you very much. i do enjoy our interviews. that paul interviews. that was paul riches. the former riches. that is the former special adviser and columnist. there . a certain there is. a certain skills available simply anyway available to spend simply anyway . more your . but we've got loads more your way in a few way before 6:00. in a few minutes time we will debate. way before 6:00. in a few mina:es time we will debate. way before 6:00. in a few mina basic1e we will debate. way before 6:00. in a few mina basic human ill debate. way before 6:00. in a few mina basic human right bate. way before 6:00. in a few mina basic human right tote. it's a basic human right to settle country and
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settle in this country and a british citizen or actually whether or not it's a privilege that should be defended that promises to be a lively one and for a couple who that they want their privacy harry and meghan don't do a lot of interviews do they? we will discuss harry's controversial comments about his use drugs and their invites use of drugs and their invites to king's coronation . tv is to the king's coronation. tv is coming gbviews@gbnews.uk uk. but right well before , any right now, well before, any other it's polly other delay? it's polly middlehurst with headlines . middlehurst with the headlines. patrick, thank you. the top stories on gb news today. former met police officer cozens has been sentenced a further 19 months in prison after pleading guilty to three charges of indecent exposure . in one indecent exposure. in one instance, the court how he was meant to be on duty and working from home when he exposed himself at a woman in a country lane. and that was just months before he murdered sarah everard . the 50 year old is already serving a whole life for the murder of ms. in 2021. charity
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are warning thousands of asylum seekers will be left permanently limbo under a new government plans to tackle illegal migrants using small boats to cross the channel the new legislation would mean those arriving on small boats would be banned from claiming asylum from returning to the uk . the government says to the uk. the government says it's getting a grip on illegal migration and promised more safe routes . asylum seekers and as gb routes. asylum seekers and as gb news reveals more , 3000 people news reveals more, 3000 people have crossed the channel so far this year. that's double year before . the three people killed before. the three people killed in a car crash in wales have been named as 21 year olds. eve smith and darcy ross and 24 year old rafal jean . two others, 20 old rafal jean. two others, 20 year old sophie rousseau and 32 year old sophie rousseau and 32 year old sophie rousseau and 32 year old shane loughlin were seriously injured in the accident . police investigating accident. police investigating the crash . the group went the crash. the group went missing after a night out on
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friday and were last seen the early hours of saturday morning . firefight us have voted overwhelmingly to a new pay offer , ending the prospect of offer, ending the prospect of strike action. the deal is for a 7% pay increase backdated to july last , 7% pay increase backdated to july last, plus an additional % july last, plus an additional% from july . 96% of five brigade from july. 96% of five brigade union members accepted the, despite the union's general secretary saying it was a real terms pay cut. those the latest news headlines. i'm back the top of the hour. see you then . of the hour. see you then. get ready for a big debate about whether or not having the right to come and live and work in is a basic human right. i from all over the world has basic human rights to come and live and work in britain if they want or whether or not a privilege that
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frankly is worth being protected because we're going to have top drawer very, very drawer debate on this very, very shortly. but wanted to go shortly. but i just wanted to go into i've into the inbox because i've asking about this asking you about all of this throughout the of the show. gbviews@gbnews.uk dean from southampton how can it be southampton says, how can it be a right that a migrant can break the law coming here illegally on their punishment being put up ? their punishment being put up? hotels cost the taxpayer millions , and yet we spend millions, and yet we spend a mere pittance on soldiers mere pittance on our soldiers who serve the who protect and serve the country. veterans versus country. the veterans versus migrants is one that migrants debate is one that we've covered quite a lot on this in light the fact this show in light of the fact that been live from that we've been live from a protest a hotel in protest at a hotel in leicestershire i the leicestershire. i know the big oneisnt leicestershire. i know the big one isn't just about one isn't actually just about the those the people who work at those hotels this is big hotels and this is a big underreported story when you think about the amount of hotels there moment that are there are at the moment that are being asylum being used to house asylum seekers. at how seekers. and you look at how many people used to work at those were very those hotels and were given very short . and the that short notice. and the fact that their contracts employment their contracts of employment will running will be. that must be running the thousands, if tens of the thousands, if not tens of thousands. the thousands, if not tens of thousands . and i don't think thousands. and i don't think that's is it views? that's quite right. is it views? jeff , how many people do jeff says, how many people do these charities think? we can keep taking in these numbers?
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and in and our effect in lives in multiple cannot even multiple ways we cannot even to house . and jim says, house our own. and jim says, what about people who come here illegally lorries? well, illegally on the lorries? well, on jim, the announcement on note, jim, the announcement we're expecting to from we're expecting to have from rishi tomorrow about its rishi sunak tomorrow about its big new plan to finally stop illegal immigration will incorporate people as we understand it, who come in the back lorries because the plan back of lorries because the plan will be anyone here through will be anyone who here through an route and they will an illegal route and they will not allowed to stay here. not be allowed to stay here. they not allowed to they will not be allowed to claim and they claim in the future. and they wouldn't allowed to wouldn't even be allowed to visit. the massive question mark there does that there is how on earth does that 7 there is how on earth does that ? going to ? and hopefully he's going to answer that tomorrow. answer that question tomorrow. but hold breath and we'll but don't hold breath and we'll be very shortly. rishi be debating very shortly. rishi sunak's bid to this boats sunak's bid to end this boats crisis. i'm asking you simple question. this came out question. this question came out a government source this is a government source said this is a government source said this is a right. it's not a human right to be a british citizen. it is a privilege . and i want to know, privilege. and i want to know, do you think it is a human for anyone in the world to come live and work? i'm going to have human former human rights lawyer and a former brexit , don't you? it. brexit party mep, don't you? it. i'm rees—mogg, the member of for
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parliament east somerset and a former government minister. parliament east somerset and a former government minister . for former government minister. for years i've the corridors years i've walked the corridors power in both westminster and city of london. i campaigned in the largest democratic vote in ireland . know country has ireland. i know this country has so much to be proud of. we need to have the arguments, the discussions on how we make it better, the wisdom the is better, the wisdom the nation is in people . vox populi, vox in its people. vox populi, vox day . that's why in its people. vox populi, vox day. that's why i'm joining the people's channel join me monday and thursday at 8 pm. on gb news, britain's news
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channel okay, welcome back, everybody . okay, welcome back, everybody. rishi sunak is set to a new illegal bill this week with the start warning. make mistake, come here illegally . you will come here illegally. you will not be able to stay that some would say it's pretty black and white, but the new legislation aims stop crossing the aims to stop crossing the channel on small from claiming asylum and they will be removed , possibly banned from ever entering uk again.
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, possibly banned from ever entering uk again . so they want entering uk again. so they want to do this to deter people . they to do this to deter people. they want to cut off their business model and they want to make it clearly to people that if clearly very to people that if you come through an illegal route, that will be refused asylum, you can't for asylum again the future and you again in the future and you can't even visit on holiday. so let try to answer the let us try to answer the question, is the ability question, though is the ability settle in this country and become a british citizen, a bafic become a british citizen, a basic human right? so does anyone have a basic human right right to come and live and work in britain, or is it a privilege 7 in britain, or is it a privilege ? because that's the line that was put out by the government earlier on, that it's a privilege not human. right. but things be quite as things might not be quite as simple with me to simple as that. with me now to debate rights and wrongs is debate the rights and wrongs is international human rights lawyer hague and, former lawyer david hague and, former brexit mep is rupert lowe. brexit party mep is rupert lowe. both you , thank you very, both of you, thank you very, very much. now, ruth , just start very much. now, ruth, just start with you think a human with you. do you think a human rights to be able to and live and britain or is and work in britain or is a privilege ? in a word, patrick, privilege? in a word, patrick, definitely no . it would be
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definitely no. it would be ridiculous to make that statement and. i think 99% of the country would agree with that. we've how long? i mean, first of all, i welcome the fact that they're actually now addressing the issue. but we've been saying for really many years now that the right route is to pursue the same route as australia, which is where you do have a zero tolerance policy . have a zero tolerance policy. and if people want to come live here, they need to apply legally to come and they need to do it in a structured way. those people who come, mainly men a lot of them are simply because britain is extremely generous in terms of what it gives people. and as you say we put them in hotels and look after them. we just go completely wrong . so i, just go completely wrong. so i, i welcome fact we're now addressing the issue and we need to take a zero tolerance policy to take a zero tolerance policy to those people who and come here illegally. okay david, i'll
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bnng here illegally. okay david, i'll bring you in now. you are a human rights, and i think you might i was on a different view really , which is that under our really, which is that under our current legisla ation, is it a human right to want to live and work in britain ? well, i think work in britain? well, i think that's thing you that's the thing that you mentioned. i mean, and that's the whether or the thing whether it's a or wrong, current legislation wrong, the current legislation that most of it that we have, which most of it emanated form or another emanated in one form or another from or the c, r and from either eu or the c, h r and put into our local, into our national and as national legislation and as interpreted by our judges as well as european judges, effectively says , that it is effectively says, that it is a human right, as per the existing law. so patrick, you talk about a deal illegal a bill to deal illegal immigration, but at the moment it would be an illegal bill. and that's the issue it's yet another gimmick from labour another gimmick from a labour conservative party that really is struggling in terms of i think immigration policy. is struggling in terms of i think immigration policy . well, think immigration policy. well, that a problem. rupert isn't that is a problem. rupert isn't it? because maybe this explains why government had had an why our government had had an anonymous person do a quote in today's daily mail which said it is not a human right to come and live and work in britain. it a privilege when they possibly
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know that full well under our current and regs it basically is a human rights actually and that needs be changed. well, that's what the government's got to change, patrick. i mean, as a sovereign australia has structured so that they can send people back . they do and they people back. they do and they send them back to process in different processing centres outside of australia , they have outside of australia, they have a zero tolerance policy to those people who try and come into that country. now we are a sovereign nation again. now we're supposed to be the british. people voted for brexit. we didn't vote more with this 40 years of the importation , eu rules and regulations and human rights. so i think what we what our government be doing is governing in the interests of the british people. you say maybe currently now the law is complicated on this suella braverman tried to deal with it and at the end of the day it's now incumbent on rishi sunak rather than the windsor
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agreement, which basically was a facade and i have to agree with you that that is possible that . you that that is possible that. we're going to see more window dressing and nonsense because this is a difficult issue. and a lot of the a lot of the elected politicians don't want to take on anything, which is britain could be construed as popular. but i think the pretty much the fact is now that if rishi sunak wants to stop the small boats which he says he wants to do and then wants to make it unappealing for people to come here, so basically to implement situation where someone who anyone comes here through an illegal route cannot apply for asylum. now or ever and can't even visit the uk . that then even visit the uk. that then david is obviously going to have to change the law. some people will say, why doesn't he just ignore it? what happens , david? ignore it? what happens, david? if we just ignore it? well, we'll see exactly happened with rwanda. i mean, that was you know the uk believing that we were following the law and it will get stuck in courts. so if we ignore our own laws which we
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actually put place aside from the issues of becoming a lawless society sometime down line, i mean you've got an where mean you've got an issue where it stuck in courts it will just get stuck in courts and we know take and as we know courts take a very, very long we've got two years another election or years until another election or round there. it's not round about there. it's not going to get done. i can't see how you would legislation in how you would get legislation in place in the courts. place and then in the courts. okay. just start over to okay. rupert just start over to you now for . all the people you now for. all the people who've been emailing in saying that a privilege to that it should be a privilege to hold british not a basic hold the british not a basic human right. what is. come on. what is such a privilege about having a british rupert ? well, having a british rupert? well, ultimately , is currently ultimately, is currently a privilege prejudicial that when you look at the way the country is being run, what handcuffs, what that message is, you begin to wonder , you know, how long we to wonder, you know, how long we can go on like this. and then you starmer you watch keir starmer appointing gray as we know , appointing sue gray as we know, conflicts interest always conflicts of interest are always for other people, and that certainly seems to the certainly seems to be the case here. you might well ask for here. so you might well ask for the privileges, but fact the the privileges, but the fact the matter are a sovereign
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matter is we are a sovereign nafion matter is we are a sovereign nation you know, the people nation. you know, the people have paid their taxes. the people here are heavily taxed now. probably we're not taxed at the highest level we've been for 70 years. hmrc pursues a civil the absolute rigour sleep for every penny that we owe and you know it's incumbent on the government they're elected to the interests of , the british the interests of, the british people. that's what they should be doing. all right. people. that's what they should be doing. all right . just final be doing. all right. just final word over to you . look, do you word over to you. look, do you think i as a human rights lawyer look, do you think realistically that i know what the law is at the minute , that it is too to, the minute, that it is too to, easy just rock up on the shores of britain and, reap the benefits of this fabulous country . 100. and think the country. 100. and i think the fact that it's too easy is damaging the general to the genuine human rights people which you know people are genuine asylum seekers the genuine asylum seekers the genuine that being genuine people that are being abused , tortured, which, you abused, tortured, which, you know, world know, in our role in the world we safe place for we should offer a safe place for them. the other them. but all of the other illegal that are illegal that come here that are not genuine . look, you,
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not genuine. look, both of you, thank thoroughly thank you very much. thoroughly enjoyed that show the viewers and well that and listeners did as well that is international rights is international human rights lawyer. david hague and former brexit rupert lowe brexit party mep rupert lowe keep be the keep going to be at the forefront for forefront your minds for tomorrow, tomorrow rishi tomorrow, because tomorrow rishi sunak going to unveil sunak is going to unveil whatever is planned as we know bits he wants to the bits of it. he wants to stop the small wants to make small boats he wants to make sure can't stay here sure that people can't stay here all claim asylum going all claim asylum here going forward they've come here illegally. discussion we've illegally. but discussion we've just had there is about how legally he is to do that. so make sure you that in mind. thank you very much. now we are going wrapping up . what going to be wrapping up. what about prince harry? because about our prince harry? because prince harry opened up his prince harry opened up about his drug marijuana drug use saying that marijuana is really helps him. but cocaine , alcohol was more of a social thing and a question and answer session so called trauma expert gavel mouthed the prince also said psychedelic drug helps him deal with the and pains of the past . but that has caused a lot past. but that has caused a lot of people to say. harry, what are you on about? drugs can be very damaging for mental health and kill people. but and indeed kill people. but meanwhile, meghan
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meanwhile, harry and meghan have been in email correspondence with king over invitation to with king over an invitation to his combination on may six, although not yet known whether or not the couple will attend, although not yet known whether or nocharles uple will attend, although not yet known whether or nocharles may will attend, although not yet known whether or nocharles may offerattend, although not yet known whether or nocharles may offer couple a king charles may offer couple a suite rooms in. buckingham suite of rooms in. buckingham palace. it'd be nice to if palace. it'd be nice to know if they're the uk after asking them to residence. to quit their residence. frogmore not a cottage and possibly set hand to the keys to . prince andrew. anyway, with me now is rafe hatami , who is royal now is rafe hatami, who is royal broadcaster commentator broadcaster and commentator great, great stuff. want great, great stuff. tough. want to where start today to know to where start today let's prince harry let's crocombe with prince harry the use stuff he appear the old drug use stuff he appear somewhat size be almost promoting the use of drugs saying it helps him with his mental health. lots of people are that is a really are saying that is a really really rough to have done . yes really rough to have done. yes well i think it was clear that he was them, at least for himself father's in his himself and father's in his position. and we've seen today campaigners and even celebrities like kirstie allsopp blasting harry for speaking publicly about the positive side of certain illegal drugs. because, of course, somebody who claims to be socially and environmentally aware , he
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environmentally aware, he appears to have no qualms of support doing a vicious drug trade. we have to remember that kills lots of people in the poor and developing world to produce these drugs for. and developing world to produce these drugs for . wealthy, these drugs for. wealthy, privileged people to consume and. that's before we get into the whole issue of our own problems that we have with young people's ruined through problems that we have with young peo dealing ruined through problems that we have with young peo dealing of ruined through problems that we have with young peo dealing of drugs through problems that we have with young peo dealing of drugs on'ough problems that we have with young peo dealing of drugs on the h the dealing of drugs on the county issues . so yeah. county lines, issues. so yeah. so in terms of and possibly marijuana i think that's right. i'm not the same thing can be appued i'm not the same thing can be applied to this i because it's not readily available and actually psychiatrists and doctors actually have said that there are actually some genuine benefits that can be had from this. and we know also, for example that mdma is also in some parts of the for world with depression and so forth. so i think there is some debate to be had amongst those amongst those things of the benefits they can bnng things of the benefits they can bring to people who have severe depression and other issues like that yes, indeed, a mixed although using the word bag in this instance is probably the wrong thing that but when it
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comes to as well the combination now is interesting there now this is interesting there were that actually one were rumblings that actually one of the reasons behind king charles asking them to vacate frogmore could possibly have been because they frankly , harry been because they frankly, harry and meghan, as untrue , unworthy, and meghan, as untrue, unworthy, and meghan, as untrue, unworthy, and they want them further away from the estate and william might not really want them anywhere near his kids. what do you know about that ? well, i you know about that? well, i think i'll try to understand it, because we know thought well, this is the kind taking them out of frogmore cottage sending them back to california . then we back to california. then we hean back to california. then we hear. yes, that they may be offered prince andrew's old set , buckingham palace, or even possibly diana's old statue at kensington palace. but, you know , the king's thinking is, you know , keep my enemies, i'll keep know, keep my enemies, i'll keep my friends to my enemies closer . and by having them under his own roof at palace, should they have a better that a visit might somewhat constrain them or in fact might give them less reason to want to come over to the
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country if they're going have country if they're going to have to with with to share a roof with with with with king charles i mean if this whole invitation i mean, is, you know, it's like spare that the mind games over will you want to come to this for the coronation it's like some manufactured drama that producing now drama that producing right now keeping us all on tenterhooks you whether they're going you know whether they're going to come of this is not coronation street this is the it's just coronation . relax it's just the coronation. relax and let's just let's just find out. it's not fair to . the king out. it's not fair to. the king is not fair to the nation . play is not fair to the nation. play this silly game, because us this the silly game, because us your your answer now it's your what your answer now it's almost like they're playing some sort over sort of perverse power play over the family look. right. the royal family look. right. thank you very much. always an absolute rafe absolute pleasure. rafe heydel—mankoo broadcaster heydel—mankoo that broadcaster and michelle and commentator. michelle dewberry next about 20 dewberry is up next in about 20 seconds. actually james. and what's on for i'll what's going on for you? i'll keep brief. i'll just ask keep this brief. i'll just ask a very simple question. am i the only could only person in the uk that could not if prince goes to not care less if prince goes to this or not? no, i this coronation or not? no, i mean, i do quite like the fact that she's got it absolutely stuck by chris for saying stuck her by chris for saying that it stuck her by chris for saying thatitis stuck her by chris for saying that it is not racist and all
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the system. is it basically a laughing stock right now? i ask because get this, boris johnson is rumoured is going to try and give his dad one. really? i mean, come on now . is it give his dad one. really? i mean, come on now. is it time for serious reform? what about the house of lords more generally, should we just reform that, get rid of or what's that, get rid of it or what's your thoughts that and which that, get rid of it or what's yo bythoughts that and which that, get rid of it or what's yo by going|ts that and which that, get rid of it or what's yoby going plungedit and which that, get rid of it or what's yoby going plunged membernhich that, get rid of it or what's yoby going plunged member oneh is by going plunged member one of his top five priorities was stopping the boats he didn't say halving them reduce them. he was very clear wasn't a he is going to stop them is he really what do you reckon to this plan to reckon it worked you
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