break very good morning. it's 930 on tuesday, the 7th of march. this is to the point me, bev turner and andrew pierce. and it's a landmark day of legislation in the commons today. the home secretary bringing forward that bill to stop those bill to try to stop those illegal crossings across illegal migrant crossings across the channel. we'll be talking in the channel. we'll be talking in the hour to the the next half an hour to the original secretary see original brexit secretary see what about whether what he thinks about whether it's absolutely. it's workable. absolutely. and anger at the police. three friends dead to ill in hospital . but why did it take cops.7

almost 48 hours to find the five missing youngsters in south wales .7 two have survived so wales? two have survived so could the others have been saved as well if the police had responded more quickly? i'm blessed. britain snow set to sweep the country as temperatures continue to plummet . now experts warn arctic conditions could last a fortnight and they're worrying the elderly and the vulnerable . the elderly and the vulnerable. plus, a war on smokers as a leading charity reveals 75,000 appointments are taking up by smokers every month . is it time smokers every month. is it time to charge smokers for nhs treatment . and good morning. treatment. and good morning. welcome to the point. we've also got some breaking news, a statement andrew from matt hancock this morning on the lockdown files we'll be bringing you that that's a sign of a cabinet minister form cabinet. she's in a lot of political trouble. and we're also we've got david davies coming into the

studio. he's the former brexit secretary to look at this big by the government to row back on the government to row back on the illegal migrant crossings. let us know what you think about all our stories gb views all our stories today. gb views at gbnews.uk . but first of all, at gbnews.uk. but first of all, here are news headlines here are your news headlines with . tamsin bear. thank you and with. tamsin bear. thank you and good morning from the gb newsroom. matt. 932 the government is today set to unveil new legislation to remove migrants and ban them from ever returning to the uk . the home returning to the uk. the home secretary says the proposed laws will push the boundaries international law to solve the crisis . international law to solve the crisis. prime minister rishi sunak has argued the bill will take back of uk borders . but take back of uk borders. but immigration lawyer hijab singh banga told gb news it won't work . the fact is you're being sold a dream, it's not going to. we know it's not going to work because we don't have the infrastructure it. there's already a backlog and there's

already a backlog and there's already cases that can't be cleared. you saw the way they're going to deal with the backlog. they're going to give them a form to fill out themselves and say, have in danger? say, have you been in danger? yes are you in trouble? yes. do you want to go? no the former health secretary, matt hancock, considered funding considered withholding funding a centre for children with learning disabilities to put pressure on an mp to new covid restrictions and whatsapp messages leaked to the daily telegraph. mr. hancock discussed warning james daily that the centre will be off the table if he rebelled . spokesperson for he rebelled. spokesperson for matt hancock says . what is being matt hancock says. what is being accused? never happened . the accused? never happened. the gender pay gap in the uk has widened with men now paid i4.4% widened with men now paid 14.4% more than women. the accountancy firm pwc report puts the increase to down a sharp rise in childcare costs , which has childcare costs, which has pnced childcare costs, which has priced many women out of work altogether. a swooned at the rate the pay gap is closing now take more than 50 years to reach gender pay parity . a yellow

gender pay parity. a yellow weather warning for snow and ice is in place across large parts of the uk . the met office has of the uk. the met office has issued alerts for the south midlands north—east northern and east of scotland south wales and northern ireland until 10:00 this morning. tonight expected to be the coldest night the year so far, with snow warnings remaining in areas until the weekend . tv, online and dab+ weekend. tv, online and dab+ radio . this is gb news now back radio. this is gb news now back to bev and andrew andrew . to bev and andrew andrew. welcome this is to the point on tv and andrew, both the home secretary has vowed to push the boundanes secretary has vowed to push the boundaries of international law and stop migrants from illegally the uk in a direct challenge. european human rights judges. refugees arrive in the uk by small boat will be under the government's plans, banned from

claiming for life. but claiming a sign for life. but critics believe it'll be bogged in challenges. and there in legal challenges. and there are implications. are huge implications. so joining us in the studio now for more is gb news, deputy political editor , tom harwood, political editor, tom harwood, as as former brexit as well as the former brexit secretary davis. good secretary david davis. good morning to you both. let's start with you, tom. there's a debate about this in the commons today. what of political what kind of political backlash will hear ? well, undoubtedly will we hear? well, undoubtedly we're to hear the from the we're going to hear the from the labour party has been out labour party that has been out for couple of days now for the last couple of days now that this is underway , workable. that this is underway, workable. the labour party is being very careful to not try and push the out to use a terrible metaphor when it comes actually when it comes to saying that it's wrong to clamp down on illegal migration. obviously the labour party's really concerned with winning back a lot of those red wall seats where this is a very high salience issue. so the labour party will not be attacking policy by through attacking this policy by through the means of saying it's wrong to stop illegal migration. they'll be attacking this policy by saying it's unworkable and that it's simply a continuation

of the tries that this government has had in the past. for example, the nationality and borders bill, which of course became an act last year and hasn't seemed to stem the flow. yeah what do you expect from today, andrew? well, it'll be a lot of roaring and cheering on the tory benches because finally they've got some legislate in which they can get to grips with a tories will support it, a lot of tories will support it, but lawyers the tory but the lawyers on the tory benches, i suspect, have benches, i suspect, may have some challenging in it. and some very challenging in it. and david davies of course, the former secretary, said. former brexit secretary, said. david, look, there's not a lawyer, you're not. but the great, great headlines on the on the front page today. the daily mail cracked illegal mail biggest cracked on illegal migration for decades. the government saying they found government is saying they found a under the under a loophole under the under european legislation which means section 19 one point be statement effectively they can bypass the european judges to stop the migrants claiming asylum when they land in britain . do you think they can? well what i think will happen is they'll be in court for a long time. right. look let me be

blunt. there's never been a problem of overruling the european court if you choose to . you may remember they once instructed us to give prisoners the vote. you and jack straw and jack straw and i moved a motion in the house of commons and overruled it. you it. and that was it. it was done. and in fact, the european court backed off. i think what brighton declaration where they agreed to limit did. so it's limit what they did. so it's not. that's not the problem. in fact, if you look at the biggest the biggest surge last year was the biggest surge last year was the albania. yeah. a 50,000 albanians. why do you think the albanians. why do you think the albanians came here? well if you look around europe, so need approval for albanians. look around europe, so need approval for albanians . asylum approval for albanians. asylum seekers zero in nearly all of europe . zero. britain, 55. we europe. zero. britain, 55. we took we took 55% of people from a safe country . it's got a safe country. it's got a better international record than we have. i've got a better chance of getting asylum in tehran of other way around . and

tehran of other way around. and it's a safe country. we have turned down every single one. we didn't. we allowed 55% it. now that's where the problem starts . that's why the albanians came here. and it is so, so and my view , of course, we've got to view, of course, we've got to fix this problem . of course, we fix this problem. of course, we have to think about put to one side the sort of red wall issue. it's a real practical and moral problem dying in the channel. but you know, we've got to do it by common sense. number one, we should have fixed the albanian problem. we started on it, but we could we could easily have passed a two page bill saying. why haven't they? i said, very good question. i don't know the answer that i wrote to rishi in early december last year with 50 mp behind me. eventually 100 signed up on it, saying just pass this law and that will at least drop by one third. the problem because the second problem because the second problem you have, how much is this how can't cope. you know, you and your viewers , those who

you and your viewers, those who will think to themselves and we'll look at the statistic for the clearance rate of a sort of the clearance rate of a sort of the case officers case. officers now clear 1.4 cases away . you now clear 1.4 cases away. you know, it used to be 30 or 40, you know, 1.4, like doing , you you know, 1.4, like doing, you know , even our immigration know, even our immigration lawyer who was here yesterday said, you can process an application in half a day. yeah, each person should be able to do it. yeah, it has it slowed down because more people are working from home. if you're perhaps if you're walking the dog in the morning whilst checking your messages quite messages it's not quite as easy to be as efficient. well to be as efficient. yeah. well there certainly over the there is it certainly over the course of coronavirus when a lot of civil servants went to work from home, it did drop dramatically. yeah, so that may well be component , but you know, well be component, but you know, the other difficulty is that the albanians, i think we can solve fairly quickly . the other two

fairly quickly. the other two thirds are afghans. now, what do you do with somebody who's been an afghan interpreter for the british army if he's by, the taliban will be murdered . his taliban will be murdered. his family will be murdered with him . so he takes a false identity to get out of afghanistan into pakistan or iran, and then pay somebody to get him here. and under the new laws , he's going under the new laws, he's going to be automatically rejected for asylum. yeah, my view we owe that man a responsible to out the law. what about that? also a large number of people now we detect crossing the channel off from india. yeah, well, look, there's no war in india. there's no persecution in india . why are no persecution in india. why are they allowed? again, they being allowed? well, again, you be dealt you see, that would be dealt with save the about that. with by the save the about that. just a bit. yeah. just to explain a bit. yeah. when i said we could do with albania, if you can declare a country a safe country. but right you you can create right then you you can create a law which allows you to turn around like that. no appeals, nothing. now, why do i say that? because sweden have already it. sweden? you know, social,

democratic, civilised, you know , nice, upright. sweden has done it. and how do they do it? they look to the international court. so this is all funny in the papers. i look to the papers. what i look to the international law and international court case law and designed around and designed the law around it and if just sweden's law, if we just copied sweden's law, we could guarantee that the european of human rights wouldn't interfere. you know. whether guarantee . the whether we could guarantee. the 51 refugee act doesn't , i'm not 51 refugee act doesn't, i'm not sure. but you certainly could keep the east of it just like that. keep the east of it just like that . and with with countries that. and with with countries like india, absolute you could you could declare them a safe . you could declare them a safe. there are democracy there. there are you know, they've got flaws , all of us have. but they're a democracy with the rule of law. and so that's not a dangerous country . david, we were talking country. david, we were talking about the lack of will apparently to stop the people traffickers before they push off from the shore. yeah henry bolton obe. he's a regular to this channel and he said it's frustrating listening to this conversation of why we can't stop the people smugglers can.

and we did, he says. we had a programme in place from 2001 to 2006 when blair pulled the funding, we went hunting these criminals. it worked and i led part of it. why aren't we doing that now? well, it's a good question. i mean, one of the difficulties is the surveillance is the channel right now . is the channel right now. ironically the european border agency, frontex employs a british company from lincolnshire to, surveil the entire mediterranean , a entire mediterranean, a fantastic job. these aircraft with synthetic aperture radar and thermal and electro, a great big cameras and so on can pick up people and groups of mobile phones and so on for 50 miles away, right. and they have been waiting. they've been trying to get a contract with the british government for about a year or longer. you know, and it just goes backwards forwards and goes backwards and forwards and backwards you backwards and forwards, you know, inside know, there's something inside the home office. i mean. you remember john reid, 2006. no no, rememberjohn reid, 2006. no no, i'm afraid it hasn't really

improved much. arguably it's got worse. and what about the calibre of the home secretaries? well you know, it's really not a dangerous territory. yeah. i mean , the suella braverman mean, the suella braverman a great political titan. well, the truth is let's be clear. the truth is let's be clear. the truth is let's be clear. the truth is this is probably the second, but i'll probably it it is the second most difficult. he may be the most difficult job in politics, but certainly behind prime minister, it's the second most difficult and does require incredible graft. incredible grasp . and, you know , the grasp. and, you know, the arguments we heard this morning about are doesn't demonstrate an entirely strong of international law which is critical the practicalities of it is critical i the thing that worries me most is that we're just picking a fight with the courts rather than solving the problem that's the real dangerous distinction i'm going to. and do you detect also they're trying to pick a fight the labour party. oh of, course. well i would do that to fight them. yeah. i don't

fight for them. yeah. i don't blame them for that but but, but you know if, if the outcome of this is blaming the courts at the it, we may feel nice the end of it, we may feel nice and it doesn't solve and warm, but it doesn't solve the problem it's still in the problem and if it's still in that place come the election the people at home was referring to in the seats and in the in the red wall seats and so on. i don't think, though they'll be happy about that. yeah, i think we'll go. we yeah, i, i think we'll go. we won't the next general won't this by the next general election but we going make election but we going to make a big in it is why i wrote to big dent in it is why i wrote to them before christmas the albanians, at that albanians, because at least that one this there's no moral quandary , you know. did you get quandary, you know. did you get a from the prime minister the prime minister you he'll prime minister you know, he'll take and to be to take up the issue and to be to him they did lean on the albanian lean on they talked to the albanian government and they've got a of better deal. and there has been a bit of a dip. but, you know , i my view is dip. but, you know, i my view is you can reduce it to zero. sweden has zero. most countries in europe, apart from france and italy i think most countries in europe have a zero acceptance rate albanian refugees and

france i mean , france has many, france i mean, france has many, many more than do and turns down 90 something% of them. we accept 55. that's that's where these things start. you know, we create our own problems. david, i can't have you here without asking for comment on the hancock messages, the lockdown files. you were one of the very few mps who were relatively vocal about being scared. i think going i'm on the list of 90 troublemakers. i i mean you are i'm afraid i carried on i was pleased to see there was so many of you to be honest and hancock has released a statement actually only last few actually only the last few moments saying the message exchange was an entirely partial account . this is in relation to account. this is in relation to the idea that he put pressure on one of the beria employees and matt manchester say matt north manchester to say that get the funding that he wouldn't get the funding for disability centre unless for his disability centre unless . voted matt hancock for . he voted with matt hancock for increase lockdowns or continuing lockdowns . the missing context lockdowns. the missing context here vitally important here is vitally important because vote was for

because this vote was for critical saving this is a critical saving lives. this is a spokesperson hancock. spokesperson for matt hancock. what's accused never what's being accused never happened demonstrating the story wrong is showing why such a biased, approach to the biased, partial approach to the evidence is a bad mistake by those a vested interest and those with a vested interest and an grind . what do you an axe to grind. what do you make that statement ? well, make of that statement? well, surprise , surprise. i mean, the surprise, surprise. i mean, the i praised the point in the house yesterday actually, matt scuffled out just before i did because i told him i was going to say i respond. i said, look, for three years, three years ago, back in 2020, i was worried that they were making decisions on the basis they were making on the basis of because i spent in that year than they ever had before on focus groups and polling. and so i asked for the information right and i'd been spent three years effort wise , spent three years effort wise, written questions and so on. eventually raised with the speaker yesterday because they he wasn't releasing the data. and the point is if you work in a democracy you release all data and let the public make the you can't say oh his has been his

this been the government's approach been manage and will approach been to manage and will it go to the public inquiry or will what the information about the polling how. oh yes of course it will in fact as soon as a public inquiry starts taking public evidence, i'm going to go and ask them to because because see what you because because you see what you saw. i mean, i have to tell saw. and i mean, i have to tell you, i'm ambivalent about these, because on the one hand, i worry about undermining people's confidence chirality on. confidence chirality and so on. on other hand, i think as on the other hand, i think as has got a point about public interest. yeah and one of the things you see time and again, boris's sort of libertarian instincts sort of come out and then along comes dominic cummings, who says 75, the pubuc cummings, who says 75, the public think you're wrong or you know, whatever. then he collapses again. now you know, frankly, i think he could have been know, that been stronger, you know, that that demonstrates that this polling data was much, much more important and really hard side. so what's very very little hard science in the first year it was guesswork and you know him saying, oh, we're saving lives.

well, i think we're saving lives. go look what i would say to him. go look at sweden. matt go look at sweden. they did pretty much the opposite of what you did and they saved more lives than you did. so i don't think that the premise of that stands up . okay, this is it is. stands up. okay, this is it is. thank you, david. let's get more analysis on the legal implications of the immigration legislation. joining us now is , legislation. joining us now is, a lawyer, schuyler mckee. good morning, schuyler. thank you for hanging on. won't you ? we're hanging on. won't you? we're just talking about this immigration proposal, the debate that will happen in the house of commons today. what is perception of it from a legal point of view? well the government absolutely needs to implement a new strategy. the home office is . there's a major home office is. there's a major backlog of applications. and the current system that's been in place is unsustainable. but bill may be faced with backlash and potential legal challenges . the potential legal challenges. the legislation may be in compatible with international laws as the european convention , human

european convention, human rights. there may also be pushback on the proposed bill, similar to what we've seen with the rwanda removal flights and. there have so far been no flights to date. so in terms of section 19 one b that was discussed earlier making a section 19 one b statement does not evidence a lack of respect for the human rights standards. it just shows the government is taking the of assessing the human rights implications of its legislation . so but there may legislation. so but there may also be potential practical issues with and the first is that mass detention may actually be unlawful . so where would be unlawful. so where would these individuals held while awaiting transfer to another country? it may also be very costly and individuals must not be left in limbo while waiting for a third country to agree to admit them . so we could admit them. so we could potentially see issues here with the uk arrives being left in waiting for safe third countries to admit them and they would

likely be detained for eight days automatically and then potentially released if there is no safe third country to send them to . so this could be them to. so this could be expensive , potentially a breach expensive, potentially a breach of the hra and it's basically another month of uk taxpayer funding which may not necessarily be best solution . necessarily be best solution. also, if people are removed, where would they be sent? that clearly won't be, won't be rwanda as the government has said, there won't be any flights before 2024. there's also no agreements in place with other countries of other safe countries. despite the government's attempts to make them and to comply with international law. any agreement would have to be with a country . okay, so no solution any time soon. skylar it looks like. but we will watch it closely. all right. thank so much. we're going to be talking in just a moment about the war on smokers and whether the nhs should start charging smokers. you've been

getting in touch. shaun says, hang on a minute. smokers already pay at least £9 tax on a packet 20. very good point . packet 20. very good point. makes us smokers shouldn't have to pay for health treatment. they've already paid far more tax than non—smokers. what would be sportsmen pay be next? insisting sportsmen pay for to treated , car for injuries to be treated, car drivers pay for accident related treatments. keep messages treatments. keep your messages coming. at gbnews.uk . coming. gb views at gbnews.uk. well, now here's news that just go away, especially for matt hancock. you know he is the former health secretary. more hancock. you know he is the fornmore�*alth secretary. more hancock. you know he is the fornmore revelationsiry. more hancock. you know he is the forn more revelations from ore hancock. you know he is the forn more revelations from those and more revelations from those lockdown in daily lockdown files in the daily telegraph. former secretary telegraph. the former secretary apparently rejected advised him sir chris whitty. he was the chief medical officer that covid self—isolation should be cut back concerns it would back over concerns it would imply getting it imply they were getting it wrong. really is the gift wrong. it really is the gift keeps giving this telegraph keeps on giving this telegraph among many of the government advice at the time was a somewhat mandatory covid vaccination. one man hit the headunesin vaccination. one man hit the headlines in 2021 for introducing this mandatory requirement . all staff and he's requirement. all staff and he's there with with us charlie there with here with us charlie mullins founder and owner of pimlico plumbers. good morning to you, charlie . you were to you, charlie. you were certainly a controversial figure

dunng certainly a controversial figure during this particular time. never been one to shy away from controversy anyway. are you like an opinionated man on this show? but when you look at this now, when you look at the story when you look at the back story and what going on behind and what was going on behind the, that you were the, do you feel that you were lied to about how serious situation was? well, of course , situation was? well, of course, what i mean, all the country was lied was very misled lied. i mean, i was very misled and looking back on it, i mean, you know, i think obviously that was lot pressure was under a lot of pressure at the but was a lot of the but there was a lot of information. i think they overcharged so many things. i mean, a lot of flopped on anything wrong. we just, you know, what know, carried out what the government so government suggesting. so but now it's all coming from this journalist . now it's all coming from this journalist. i think that, you know, we certainly misled and, you know, so much was, you know, the country was lockdown was too long lines and furlough. all this was so unnecessary. looking back on it , i this was so unnecessary. looking back on it, i think the only thing they got right was the vaccination. and we haven't even really to the messages about the vaccination programme yet. i mean, according one our mean, to according one of our

contributors yesterday , they contributors yesterday, they might months might have three months of revelation ends to come revelation ends to still come from 100,000 messages and i think chronological seems to be going from the start of the through. so in terms of whether we get to that particular point, we're not even there yet knowing the that were the conversations that were going on behind the scenes. but do you would you looking back now, do you think that that that your vaccination at your mandated vaccination at your mandated vaccination at your company was based on fraud? it was based on the fact that they had exaggerated the fears . they had exaggerated the fears. they said they wanted to frighten the pants off people. how frightened were you? of course was totally misled . course it was totally misled. and i'm filled with it and actually implement. that's what we plan to do for all new recruits. the, you know , staff recruits. the, you know, staff still have a choice whether they want to have the vaccination or not. so i think we just carried out well . it was suggested by us out well. it was suggested by us and at that time it sounded the best way to carry out things. you did lose staff over you did you lose any staff over it? charlie to some say, it? charlie to some people say, look, i'm not going to do look, i'm just not going to do this . i'm

look, i'm just not going to do this. i'm going to do this. this. i'm not going to do this. a few people said, you know, when it comes through, we we're going jump and fine, going to jump ship and fine, that's but, you that's their choice. but, you know, customers. know, was protecting customers. well, customers well, it's up with customers coming to you in numbers because you can provide a vaccinated plumber on derby. i mean, you know, we set them up with tesco before they went through the door and yeah, look know, you know, we were sort of certainly got the business side of it, right? and was the right thing. and, you know, i think i'll still out the sort of still carry out the same sort of policy sieges tomorrow. give them the information by the government . i we're not. government. i mean, we're not. so the misleading or lying so now the misleading or lying or without any permission, i mean, but we'll of this my uncle is action now for actually, is for action now for actually, you know passing on text messages and information to a journalist. you know obviously the inquiry has got all the information anyway but you know, i mean and he's trying to make money i think that's what the side is now. did before the pandemic, because what kind of describing is a sort of blind faith in the messaging that was

coming from the government? have you always been the kind of person that just believes what the government tells you now? you can't say that. mean, you can't say that. i mean, i think people believe think most people believe what the know, the government, you know, they're telly 24 hours a they're on the telly 24 hours a day our information light is day as our information light is information through this through the cargo air. so, i the lockdown cargo air. so, i mean we've got to be by someone, of course, i believe everything i say. i don't believe awful like charlie has. for you like charlie has. was it for you ? we got the chief medical officer , chris whitty, alongside officer, chris whitty, alongside health secretary making this point on a daily basis. it wasn't just a politician it was a so—called expert. yeah, well again, guided by them. you again, we're guided by them. you know, i think you had a lot of insight in there and i think if i would have sort of followed what was being told by the scientists or, chris whitley, then it would have made the old ministers of ministers getting it because, you know, it wrong. because, you know, i was quick do the was very quick to do the lockdown. and as i wrote this work nonsense keep work from home nonsense keep going think he going properly. i think he was overruling experts. overruling the experts. it wasn't he was overruling the wasn't he. he was overruling the expert was seeking out expert said he was seeking out the he to

the experts that he wanted to hear from in order to keep the message going that this was a drama and everybody was at mortal danger regardless your risk or your age , risk profile or your age, pre—existing medical conditions , because we now know from the messages that that helping messages that that was helping him politically to be a bigger personality, to climb greasy pole of politics. that's going to take him a big, fat, leaky thought. he was that phrase. it will take you to the next level, of course. and he did run for the tory leadership after all. that's right. now, i don't think he should be in politics. i think he's trying to make money out of it with the jungle programme. and programme. now, the book and thatis programme. now, the book and that is disaster. i don't think he's to have ministers in he's going to have ministers in government make money government trying to make money certainly disaster so certainly out of a disaster so and about was going to and more about that was going to ban sex out of them. ban the sex thing out of them. yeah yeah so hypocrisy we didn't touch hypocrisy did we. touch on the hypocrisy did we. this well under matt . yes. this ranks well under matt. yes. oh, . i think it be oh, yeah, yeah. i think it be quite an interesting addition the scene. well coming . i was the scene. well coming. i was going to charlie thanks so much. charlie mullins there. right.

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stop the migrants crossing the channel. the former brexit secretary david davis, though, has expressed his concern about the legislation and the number of albanians entering the uk . of albanians entering the uk. let's take a listen . around let's take a listen. around europe . sweden approval for europe. sweden approval for albanians, asylum seekers zero. nearly all of europe. zero. britain . 55. also anger at britain. 55. also anger at police. three friends dead. two critically ill in hospital. but why did it take police? almost 48 hours to find the five missing youngsters in south wales? two have survived. so could the others have been sent safe as well? if the police had responded more quickly , i'm responded more quickly, i'm brexit britain snow set to sweep the country. temperatures are plummeting. experts are warning these park conditions are no . these park conditions are no. that could last at least a fortnight , with serious worries fortnight, with serious worries now the elderly and the now about the elderly and the vulnerable . and if you're a vulnerable. and if you're a smoker , you want to watch this smoker, you want to watch this as a leading charity reveals

that 75,000 gp appointments are taken up by smokers every month. they are asking, is it time to charge smokers? the nhs treatment . welcome. if you're treatment. welcome. if you're just joining us, where have you been? they've missed a lot having their best half hour. we still got two more hours to go . still got two more hours to go. we're going to be talking about all sorts of things this morning, particularly that smokers you've been smokers issue. you've been getting with me about getting in touch with me about that already. vaiews@gbnews.uk is email address we is the email address and if we charge smokers the nhs, what charge smokers on the nhs, what are are we to charge are we? are we going to charge obese too because they obese people too because they cause more problems driving cause even more problems driving the nhs? exactly. yeah, absolutely. drinkers exactly. menu. we want to know what you think about all of these stories. we're covering today's should be banned should migrants be banned for life? it send us your life? is it fair? send us your thoughts emailing views thoughts by emailing gb views at gb is the news gb news. but first is the news with tamsin roberts . andrew. with tamsin roberts. andrew. thank you. good morning. from

the gb newsroom it's 10:02. the government is today set to unveil new legislation to remove illegal migrants and ban them from ever returning to the uk. the home secretary says the proposed laws will push the boundanes proposed laws will push the boundaries of international law to solve the crisis. prominent sir rishi sunak has argued the bill will take back control of uk borders. however, labour mp jonathan reynolds says this proposal is nothing new. i mean, how many times have we heard this isn't an exact rerun of the arguments over sending people to rwanda? the government says we're going to tackle this. people won't like it. and what happens ? nothing happens. they happens? nothing happens. they get place . the get their plans in place. the problem and why does problem gets worse. and why does it get worse? because they don't tackle gangs. go tackle criminal gangs. they go for who are the for the people who are the victims of this rather than the criminal behind it. victims of this rather than the criminal behind it . and criminal gangs behind it. and then, all, they don't then, second of all, they don't process if process any asylum claims. if you're only processing 2% of the claims that were made last year, which is where the government is, you don't know who is, that you don't know who should country and should be in this country and who be. the former who shouldn't be. the former health matt hancock,

health secretary, matt hancock, considered funding health secretary, matt hancock, cona dered funding health secretary, matt hancock, cona learning funding health secretary, matt hancock, cona learning disabilityfunding health secretary, matt hancock, cona learning disability centre] for a learning disability centre to put pressure on an mp to back new covid restrictions . in new covid restrictions. in whatsapp, messages leaked to the daily telegraph, mr. hancock and an aide discussed warning james daily that the centre will be off the table if he rebelled. a spokesperson for matt hancock says what is being accused never happened and that the leaked message exchanges only a partial account of the conversation . so account of the conversation. so grey's plan to work for the labour leader sir keir starmer may have breached civil service rules. the paymaster general jeremy quin told the commons that the partygate investigator may have broken four rules include in failing to gain prior approval . include in failing to gain prior approval. but include in failing to gain prior approval . but deputy labour approval. but deputy labour leader angela rayner has accused the tories of pursuing conspiracy theories . unions conspiracy theories. unions representing nhs staff are beginning talks with the government aimed at averting more strikes. the negotiator will focus on pay for this year and next for ambulance workers,

physiotherapists , nurses and physiotherapists, nurses and midwives. the department for health and social care has previously said the most it can afford is a 3.5% pay rise, but it has been suggested there could be wiggle room during the talks . the gender pay gap could be wiggle room during the talks. the gender pay gap in the uk has widened , with men now uk has widened, with men now paid 14.4% more than women . the paid 14.4% more than women. the accountancy firm pwc report puts the increase down to a sharp rise in childcare costs, which has priced many women out of work altogether . it's warned at work altogether. it's warned at the rate the pay gap is closing, it will now take more than 50 years to reach gender pay parity . mps are warning that ammunition reserves in the uk and nato allies have fallen to dangerously low levels as they seek to keep ukraine supplied. the commons defence committee says rebuilding britain's stockpile could take at least a decade , putting national decade, putting national security at risk . the committee

security at risk. the committee also says the way in which western governments procure armaments is not fit for purpose . tributes have been paid to three young people killed in a car crash that left two others seriously injured in cardiff. avis smith, darcy ross and rafael jean died in the accident , while sophie russell and shane lauchlan remain in a critical condition. the car wasn't found until two days after the group went missing , despite being just went missing, despite being just metres off a main road . cancer metres off a main road. cancer research uk estimates around 75,000 gp appointment outs would be freed up every month if smoking stopped in england. the charity says it remains the biggest cause of cancer related deaths and is urging the government to do more to prevent young people from picking up the habit and to help current smokers quit . the king and queen smokers quit. the king and queen consort will celebrate

colchester's new city status. colchester's new city status. colchester was awarded the city title during the queen's platinum jubilee celebrations last year. the couple will visit the city's zoo and castle , as the city's zoo and castle, as well as colchester library , well as colchester library, where they'll join charities age uk and the silver line for tea with local volunteers . the with local volunteers. the footballer chris kamara is to receive his mp at windsor castle later today. the 65 year old known for his catchphrase phrase, unbelievable. geoff has played for nine english professional clubs over 20 years before going on to manage bradford and stoke kamara is being made an mp for services to association football to anti —racism association football to anti—racism and to charity . a anti—racism and to charity. a yellow weather warning for snow andiceisin yellow weather warning for snow and ice is in place across large parts of the uk. the met office has issued alerts for the south midlands , north—east, northern midlands, north—east, northern and eastern scotland , south and eastern scotland, south wales and northern ireland tonight is expected to be the coldest night of the year so

far, with snow warnings remaining areas until the remaining in areas until the weekend . this is gb news. more weekend. this is gb news. more for me shortly. now though, it's back to devon, andrew . back to devon, andrew. very good morning. thank you for joining us. our top story today, rishi sunak has vowed to take back control of the country's borders once and for all as the government prepares to announce a major crackdown on illegal immigration. but as our home security editor mark white reports, despite suella braverman, that's the home secretary's pledge to push the boundanes secretary's pledge to push the boundaries of internation law, some people think it will be bogged down again in legal challenges such on wasteland near cali , another migrant camp near cali, another migrant camp has sprung up hundreds of tents and other makeshift structures have been erected, offering shell to those planning to cross illegally to the uk in the days

and weeks ahead . farther up the and weeks ahead. farther up the coast , the area's largest camp coast, the area's largest camp along the railway tracks near dunkirk has now been cleared. evidence that authorities here are certainly trying to disperse those planning to cross the channel on the uk side, the government is also stepping up the pressure . new legislation the pressure. new legislation which we are told will make claiming asylum all but impossible for those entering the uk illegally and will include a lifetime ban on claiming asylum . any policy that claiming asylum. any policy that will be put in place now and not some ideological or intellectual exercise, they are practical steps is going to allow the home office to hopefully get their act together and to work with democratically elected politicians act upon what politicians to act upon what people actually want them to do . months of construction . after months of construction work, miles of security fencing is now in place around the beaches at graveley, near dunkirk. the sight of many of

the small boat launches . but in the small boat launches. but in recent weeks, people smugglers of simply moved location and many are sceptical that new legislation will make any real difference in managing a crisis that saw more than 45,000 people cross the channel in flimsy inflatables last year. the returns agreement are the nub on which the entire policy lands, and if that fails, if there aren't places to send all of these illegal immigrants that these illegal immigrants that the government is planning to detain , then it will all fall detain, then it will all fall apart. it will all be for nought. so that's a very important bit of the plan. intelligence on it's almost a year since then. prime minister bofis year since then. prime minister boris johnson made a bold prediction once about the government's new plan to send many asylum seekers to rwanda. since then, not a single flight has taken off for that country . has taken off for that country. however determined rishi sunak arc may be to ensure his plan

has more success. it's certain there will be no end of challenges from those determined to block the government's latest proposals . i'm not white joins proposals. i'm not white joins us now from outside the home office. good morning, mark. do you have optimism from your perspective that this new plan will finally work after see? no, not really. i think we're going to see a repeat of what we had almost a year ago with that announcement from boris johnson triumphant announcement that rwanda was going to be the deal that brought the people smuggling model that not only would they be sending many people to rwanda to have their asylum claims processed a one way ticket, we were told, but also we were told that those

coming across via these irregular routes so in small boats are on the backs of lorries that they would go to the very back of the queue. as far as the asylum process is were concerned, but what happened? well, we had another record, another bumper year of arrivals almost 46,000 people who arrived by small boats. thousands of others who attempted to cross in the backs of lorries as well . however, the of lorries as well. however, the government say they are determined to try to stop the small boats coming and that's why we're going to have suella braverman up in the commons just after 1230 today, making that statement, setting out this new legislation . and in tandem with legislation. and in tandem with that, they are trying to get the message out there on social media with a snazzy new video saying that they are determined to stop. enough is enough is the slogan from social problem. and this is part of that social

media clip that's just been put out today . media clip that's just been put out today. i'm announcing a new illegal migration bill to do exactly that. the prime minister and i have been working flat out for months to bring this legislation to parliament. this bill will mean that if you come here illegally , you will not be here illegally, you will not be able to stay, you will be detained and removed to your home country . if safe or a safe home country. if safe or a safe third country like rwanda . we third country like rwanda. we are committed to helping those in need, like the hundreds of thousands of people we have supported from ukraine, afghanistan and hong kong in recent years . but it's not fair recent years. but it's not fair that people who travel through a string of safe countries and then come to the uk illegally can jump the queue and gain our system. this bill will bring an end to that. enough is enough. we must stop the boats . well, we must stop the boats. well, mark, like that stirring, dramatic rhetoric from the home secretary, isn't it? but we had david davis on here in the

studio with us just half an hour ago saying it's much more simple than bringing this complicated bill, to us bill, which is going to put us on collision course with on another collision course with european can just say european judges. we can just say no people albania. no to no to people from albania. no to people india. there's no people from india. there's no war happens war there. that's what happens in that's what's in germany. that's what's happenedin in germany. that's what's happened in sweden. why don't we do as simple as that ? do something as simple as that? yes, there's no doubt at all that they can adopt the tactic that they can adopt the tactic that other european countries have done in terms of saying to people from safe countries like, i'll being here that you're not going to qualify for asylum , you going to qualify for asylum, you will be automatically rejected if it requires the government to be firm in that particular commitment. but we know as well that there is no end to the legal challenges that lawyers acting on behalf of these asylum seekers, on behalf of the refugees and human rights charities, are prepared to put before the courts. and that's

why we're seeing rwanda and the policy there are being challenged repeatedly each time that it finds in favour actually of the government, then it's we appeal to a higher court by these human rights lawyers. and that's exactly i would expect what we are about to see in terms of the new legislation and that will be announced today . that will be announced today. they say that it is only the fringes in terms of the legality, in terms of the european human rights laws and those lawyers will test that in the courts. they will feel that they have a strong case that they have a strong case that they can prove before the courts, and they will exhaust every avenue that it's i mean, the headlines the government have got today, they're fantastic. we will push human rights law to limit. that's an aspect to the sun. the daily express have done it, too. but if lead us up garden

if they lead us up the garden path again with legislation, then work , there will be then doesn't work, there will be a backlash that be a backlash that will be a problem not just in the red wall, in the countries up and down the country. matter what it's like living kent at the it's like living in kent at the moment. is this moment. this is this has dangerous of dangerous overtones of potentially overpromising and under—deliver up under—deliver on delivering up to the next election. and if you don't get right and on the don't get this right and on the northern ireland's brexit thing last week, said he last week, he said he under—promise and overdeliver. but able to but here, if they are able to say, the promising, say, all right, the promising, they'll yeah, they they'll pay for it. yeah, they will let me know what you think. vaiews@gbnews.uk. well, joining us analyst us now is social policy analyst and author dr. rajib essa. good morning . dr. good to see morning. dr. okay. good to see you again do expect any you again. do you expect any movement in terms of being able to bring this in and to make a change and to stop people coming over here illegally before the next election? well, i think our share mark's pessimism to be honest. i think that the government really has to explain what's new with this latest proposed legislation and how it builds on the nationality and

borders act . for me, i builds on the nationality and borders act. for me, i think what's clear is that i really question whether we will be able to signal to reduce the number of people arriving to the uk on small boats via the english channel. unless there's some kind of agreement with france. i think there needs to be a comprehensive returns deal and there has to be more cooperation with france in terms of clamping down on people smuggling networks , which have taken root networks, which have taken root in northern france, and also in the i think without that the uk. i think without that i don't that being don't see that being a significant reduction in those numbers going to france on friday. to talk to president macron and this will be a key part of the discussion , the part of the discussion, the atmosphere, the relationship between the two men is better since the brexit deal that rishi sunak announced last week . i sunak announced last week. i think, sandra, i think the focus of the liz truss, i think at one point question whether president macron was a friend or foe . i macron was a friend or foe. i don't think that's particularly wise from a diplomat

perspective. think there has perspective. i think there has been achieved the been achieved within the conservative party that post—brexit foreign policy involves sticking two fingers up to france. but that's not in our national interest at all. i think prime minister sunak i think prime minister sunak i think that one advantage he has is it comes across as is that it comes across as fairly competent and serious , fairly competent and serious, especially among other western european leaders. and i think that may well help him a great dealin that may well help him a great deal in terms of securing an important returns deal with france because i think without that, i don't think britain will be able to bring down the numbers of people who are illegally entering the country via the english channel, where i keep one of the proposals of this is that the immigrants , the this is that the immigrants, the asylum seekers, the refugees , asylum seekers, the refugees, the economic migrants, whatever you whatever particular venn diagram you sit in. and when you get off the boat, so are very, very legally rather than going into two, three, four, four star hotels, which is as they are at the moment, costing the taxpayer a money. there a huge amount of money. there will former raaf bases

will be two former raaf bases used, one lincolnshire and used, one in lincolnshire and one in essex. how do you think that will be greeted by the pubuc that will be greeted by the public as a measure of containing people whilst applications are assessed ? well, applications are assessed? well, i think that that's being done in order to keep the costs down, because the home secretary's recently confirmed that we're spending in the region of £7 million a day in terms of accommodating new newcomers in hotels. just to put that in perspective , that's just 2 to perspective, that's just 2 to 3 days of spending in that form. that's the entire amount of funding that knowsley received from round two of the levelling up fund. so that's just not sustained . equally, though, sustained. equally, though, there's also the risk that the government, if it uses other facilities, they may be cheaper , but they well still face , but they may well still face local opposition, especially if they're relative deprived they're in relative deprived areas. i think that's a very areas. and i think that's a very serious problem in terms of how people who enter the country are being dispersed. i think the more liberal minded, affluent areas much do areas don't really do much do the lifting on this front the heavy lifting on this front that we've and it doesn't

that we've seen. and it doesn't seem familiar. haven't been seem familiar. haven't we been told we're going told where we're going to put some these people former some of these people in former houday some of these people in former holiday pontins holiday camps, former pontins camps, butlin's can never camps, former butlin's can never happens. about happens. they've talked about putting offshore in on on putting them offshore in on on barges and boats . so i wonder if barges and boats. so i wonder if this will happen as well. well, i'm not necessarily supportive that either , because if those that either, because if those forms of accommodation are poorly regulated and under suitable eyes, there's a report last summer which showed that in the region of 200 people had absconded from hotels. so i think that actually what you need, you need to have a very serious shoring up of our border security . but if there are security. but if there are people already in the uk, we actually need to ensure that the accommodation secure accommodation is quite secure because that if that because i think that if that fear absconding, i do think fear of absconding, i do think there are very legitimate security concerns surrounding that. security concerns surrounding that . okay thank you so much, that. okay thank you so much, doctor. okay. good to see you. they all the detail of this, which i found slightly unnerving, was the fact that if you are a child on the boat or somebody gravely ill, you will

be allowed to stay right now, if you are a very, very desperate parent. would be an parent. there would be an incentive to put your child on the boat and wave them off. and we've seen what's happened before. absolutely fascinating fact about the home secretary. she's the first member of the cabinet to be a buddhist. i think in modern history. it's right. she converted to buddhism and just checked. to and i just checked. she goes to the buddhist centre in london once a month on. there you go. she took the oath on the buddhist prayer. she took the oath on the buddhist prayer . she did? buddhist prayer. she did? fascinating. okay still to come, tonight is expected to be the coldest night of the year. so far with snow warnings remaining in areas until the weekend. how cold will it be? we'll be joined by my favourite meteor ologist, john hammond. you

in two. welcome back to the point with me, bev turner and andrew pierce. now the met office has issued weather warnings. they're set to last from today all the

way through to friday, covering huge uk. as more huge swathes of the uk. as more snow ice could be on the snow and ice could be on the way. it's march. can way. but it's march. how can this happening? uk is this be happening? the uk is braced, for five days this be happening? the uk is br'snow for five days this be happening? the uk is br'snow and for five days this be happening? the uk is br'snow and ice. for five days this be happening? the uk is br'snow and ice. the r five days this be happening? the uk is br'snow and ice. the coldestays of snow and ice. the coldest temperature of the year so far. so if your area is going to so see if your area is going to be well, joining us now is be hit. well, joining us now is my favourite meteorologist , john my favourite meteorologist, john hammond . my favourite meteorologist, john hammond. now, my favourite meteorologist, john hammond . now, john, i have i was hammond. now, john, i have i was just explaining to and during the break why are my the break why you are my favourite meteorologist. and favourite meteorologist. you and i had very entertaining i had a very entertaining conversation last summer when you told thousands of people you told me thousands of people would in streets would be dead in the streets because of the heat. now, that clip of you and i, let's say a little bit of celebrating that you bit viral. you and i went a bit viral. i was depicted as being an idiot. i didn't know what i was talking about when i was a global warming denier. apparently now i'm to be a global warming i'm going to be a global warming snow . well, it's not that snow denier. well, it's not that dangerous, it, john? no, but dangerous, is it, john? no, but we're going to play nicely this morning. yes it is. it is going to . yeah. i mean. well, i'm on to. yeah. i mean. well, i'm on your side. i'm on your side this

morning regarding the snowfall, i think for many of us and it won't be as bad as perhaps it's being headlined about across especially across southern areas. i mean, yes , there's a areas. i mean, yes, there's a warning out for southern england the tomorrow and some places will see a covering of snow and some places will see a few centimetres. but i don't think it's going to cause the amount of disruption that some perhaps is suggesting. it's a different story . but further north across story. but further north across the country and i think here there will be major impacts as we go into thursday , especially we go into thursday, especially and up into the northern parts through friday as well. so i think it's a story of two halves. for best southern counties. yeah. nice picture. postcard scenes of some snowfall perhaps through tomorrow . but perhaps through tomorrow. but for northern parts of the uk and i'm talking about wales, the midlands, northern england, northern ireland, scotland here i think there could be some major impacts later on this week with the b—word b for blizzards

, i think being appropriate there later on this week. hey well, as andrew said, it's more . yes. march, how unusual is it to get temperatures this cold at this time of the year ? no it's this time of the year? no it's unusual, as you might think, although. yeah we are sort of heading towards the spring equinox and people are thinking of warmer and spring of the warmer days and spring actually , there's a whole actually, there's a whole reservoir of arctic air which has been freezing all through the colder and the winter, getting colder and colder and the only colder and colder. and the only need a northerly way that to need a northerly way for that to arctic be unleashed arctic air to be unleashed across us. and that's that's what's happening . of course, what's happening. of course, it's a more of it's going to be a more of a shock to the system, given how much it's been through most of the winter . so some of us the winter. so some of us haven't snowfall at haven't seen any snowfall at all. yeah, a bit of all. and so, yeah, a bit of a shock through march. yeah. because don't normally because we don't normally associate snowfall. associate march with snowfall. but unusual ? associate march with snowfall. but unusual? not but is it that unusual? not really. you can get snowfall really. if you can get snowfall at easter some years . so yeah, at easter some years. so yeah, i think for most of us it will be trivial , especially across trivial, especially across southern counties. but where

yeah, a couple of centimetres of snow ain't going to cause too much hassle. but south and north, across the country, wales, the midlands , northern, wales, the midlands, northern, england, northern ireland, scotland. thursday friday it looks, shall we say , looks, shall we say, interesting. i think there will be impacts and i think some of us will be some serious delays to travel. bad news for families struggling with the cost of living crisis, because that means the heating that they perhaps thought have to perhaps thought they'd have to put on in march is going to have to back on job. yeah, that's to go back on job. yeah, that's right. actually, chart right. and actually, my chart summary next well week summary for the next well week or looks cold. now you or so looks cold. now you mentioned the start that some mentioned at the start that some places have that coldest places will have that coldest night the winter so far. night of the winter so far. that's probably true, actually , that's probably true, actually, across some glens of scotland , across some glens of scotland, we could get as low as —12, minus 15, but more widely across the uk tonight, you know, minus five degrees. that's serious cold and it's going to linger the several days to come . as you the several days to come. as you say, the few impacts on our fuel bills will be significant. march

is looking like a cold month . i is looking like a cold month. i know we're already at seven, but my charts indicate that chilly air is going to stick with us. really on and off for another week or two. so where is december, january, february ? december, january, february? we're actually a bit mild, an average march, but the trend would be colder than you'd normally expect in a month. i'd rather be to talking you about hot weather, john. i know you can't deny it'll come. it'll come . don't you worry. i'll see come. don't you worry. i'll see you again in the summer. good. thanks so much. john hammond, the meteorologist. i'm tired of this cold weather. i want to spring. so i know winter does seem to drag on, doesn't it? tulips? not too crocuses, but my title is already coming up. oh, yeah , it's a good sign. but this yeah, it's a good sign. but this cold weather could kill them off . yeah. what do you do? well, i don't know. what you doing? this. i like the fact that the supermarket is selling them for a pound bunch. i think they're a pound a bunch. i think they're a pound a bunch. i think they're a nice little you gift. a nice little thank you gift. you know, babysitters things you know, babysitters and things like a little pound like that. i take a little pound of you been getting of daffodils. you been getting in your on

in touch with your views on illegal immigration? of course, there debate in the there is a big debate in the house of commons this afternoon. it's about 12, i think. it's gonna be about 12, i think. no mark will be no doubt mark longhurst will be bringing that this morning. bringing you that this morning. this says, this afternoon, kenny says, why on this country be on earth should this country be responsible illegal responsible for illegal immigrants to immigrants who don't come to this the proper this country by the proper route? interesting idea, route? it's an interesting idea, malcolm says. why can't they open buckingham palace and open up buckingham palace and all these stately homes for asylum well, some asylum seekers? well, some stately homes are working houses. palace, houses. buckingham palace, of course, well, course, is not occupied. well, until perhaps so. we were discussing harry and meghan. harry meghan move into harry and meghan might move into the side, sharing the building side, sharing it with seekers with asylum seekers because they've compassionate they've got a big compassionate conscience, they? all conscience, haven't they? all the time, love. i think that's a very good idea. they would love that. tessa would be that. tessa said it would be impossible deportforeign impossible to deport foreign illegals, terrorists and criminals blair's criminals while tony blair's left the civil service left is in the civil service and in judiciary . and isabel in the judiciary. and isabel says, i have absolutely no faith in the government to stop illegal immigrants coming our illegal immigrants coming to our country. heard so country. we have heard this so many times. what it's going to be a test suella be a big test of suella braverman and it's going to be a big sunak, cause big test for rishi sunak, cause i'm sure the polling now shows the private polling the the private polling for the

government migrant government that the migrant crossings the one crossings are now the number one issue, cost of issue, along with the cost of living yeah, yeah. i'm living crisis. yeah, yeah. i'm not because it makes living crisis. yeah, yeah. i'm not government cause it makes living crisis. yeah, yeah. i'm not government sorse it makes living crisis. yeah, yeah. i'm not government so weak. nakes living crisis. yeah, yeah. i'm not government so weak. it kes the government so weak. it really, really does, doesn't it? still to come this morning, there's at police there's anger at the police after victim cardiff after a victim of the cardiff car crash. apparently a cold for help. this is a breaking story thatis help. this is a breaking story that is developing every minute, two hour police needs to do better. we're going to be speaking to a former met police detective the festival. here detective at the festival. here is morning's news with is your morning's news with tamsin . fair thank you. tamsin roberts. fair thank you. it's 1030 here. the headline is it's1030 here. the headline is from the gb newsroom. the government is today set to unveil new legislation to remove illegal migrants and ban them from ever returning to the uk. the home secretary says the proposed laws will push the boundanes proposed laws will push the boundaries of international law to solve the crisis . prime to solve the crisis. prime minister rishi sunak has argued the bill will take back control of uk borders, but immigration lawyer harbhajan singh bungle told gb news it won't work. the

the fact is you're being sold a dream. it's not going to happen. we know it's not going to work because we don't have the infrastructure for it. there's already a backlog and it's already a backlog and it's already cases that can't be cleared . you saw the way they're cleared. you saw the way they're going deal with backlog. going to deal with the backlog. they're them they're going to give them a form to fill out themselves and say, have been in danger? say, have you been in danger? yes. you in trouble? do yes. are you in trouble? yes do you want go back? no the you want to go back? no the former health secretary, matt hancock, considered withholding funding a cent of children funding for a cent of children with disabilities to with learning disabilities to put pressure on an mp to back new covid restrictions and whatsapp messages leaked to the daily telegraph. mr. hancock and an discussed warning james an aide discussed warning james daily that the centre would be off the table if he rebelled. a spokesperson for matt hancock says what is being accused never happened. says what is being accused never happened . the gender pay gap in happened. the gender pay gap in the uk has widened with men now paid 14.4% more than women. the accountancy firm pwc report puts the increase down to a sharp rise in childcare costs, which

has price many women out of work altogether . it's warned at the altogether. it's warned at the rate the pay gap is closing, it will now take more than 50 years to reach gender pay parity . a to reach gender pay parity. a yellow weather warning for snow andiceisin yellow weather warning for snow and ice is in place across large parts of the uk. the met office has issued alerts across all four nations. the forecast is saying temperatures could plunge to a 2023 record low of —5018 in some parts . to a 2023 record low of —5018 in some parts. tonight is to a 2023 record low of —5018 in some parts . tonight is expected some parts. tonight is expected to be the coldest night of the year with snow warnings remaining in areas until the weekend . tv online and dab+ weekend. tv online and dab+ radio this is gb news. now back to 700 . so still i'm going to be to 700. so still i'm going to be looking into more of the day's top stories with the papers from the papers with nigel nelson and tanya buxton. see you in just 2

tributes have been paid on social media to three young people killed in a car crash that left two others seriously injured in cardiff. eva smith, darcy ross and rafael jean died in the accident. but friends and family are questioning the police . the handling the case police. the handling of the case after the car wreck when unseen and unfound by the police for 46 hours. well, joining us now is former met police detective peter black . good morning, peter peter black. good morning, peter . the last time i think i spoke to you, we were talking about nicola bulley having missing and we were putting ourselves what we were putting ourselves what we in the shoes of her family. when i saw this the other night, i went to sleep thinking about being in shoes of those being in the shoes of those parents. you have teenagers parents. when you have teenagers that and you that go out at night and you sleep with one eye open because you're not sure where they are, and the worst possible and then the worst possible news in morning. who do you hold in the morning. who do you hold responsible for the fact that these people were not found for such a long time? well there's

going to be inquiries because in due course, independent due course, the independent office of police conduct will look at both gwent police and south wales police and the roles they played in this tragic, tragic incident. there are quite a lot of similarities , i a lot of similarities, i believe, between this case and the case in scotland in 2015 where a car crashed off the a9 near falkirk and two people that were in that car, john newall and lamar bell, were not discovered for three days and they both tragically died . in they both tragically died. in that case, the chief constable of police scotland had to resign over it. lamar bell's family were awarded £1 million in damages because she had two children and there is a fatal accident inquiry pending which will give even more answers. there are some and it raises to me this whole what i call template or tick box policing. i detest the word low level, the phrase low level. we hear about

low level crime. that's just an excuse for the police to do nothing. we hear about low level, low risk missing persons. well, to me , that's just another well, to me, that's just another excuse not to deploy resources, i think there to constrain it. there's too much laying a template type of things and there's no latitude for that instincts and listening to families when they say this is so out of character. i'm glad you said that, peter, because the mum of one of the youngest does catcall the police saying she's behaving out of character. she always comes home. she wouldn't be missing for 48 hours. 46 hours. and the police told her calling the told to her stop calling the mother's instinct as usual. absolutely right. that needs to be listened to. why is all this sort of initiative and discretion being stripped out of policing? is it because all the new recruits which their recruit a good many, many thousands just don't have the experience and all the experienced hands of fled for the back door as their pensions and pay got dismantled. is that part of the problem? are

they now having to constrain officers with these templates, with this tick box thinking in an effort as they see it, to try and cover their own backs? but what they're fundamentally doing is not listen to people. yeah. what is that about because you can't help a thing? i mean, this sort of in wales they they'd come off the a48 in the near near the welsh capital. when you look at the image it is one of those spots i imagine where you know, especially if you a bunch of teenagers in a car for 3:00 in the morning and you're all, you know, bit happy and someone's driving too fast, it it'll be easy go off the it'll be easy to go off the road. surely would be of the road. surely would be one of the first places you would look for teenagers who've gone missing at that time of the night. i'm sure that time of the night. i'm sure that any police service policing a major city in the uk like cardiff and london and manchester and liverpool rushed off their feet of entirely going from 1999 call to the next. but thatis from 1999 call to the next. but that is actually not excuse to

not do the job. chief constable's senior officers should be beating a path and really beating that drama and saying, look, we do not have the resources. this is the kind of thing that happens. if it's down to be a lack of resources . to be a lack of resources. however, if it's because people just ticked boxes . yeah, said just ticked boxes. yeah, said low risk. look, the other way, then that, of course , will be then that, of course, will be shameful. and this is what such the confidence in the police today , peter, isn't it? as you today, peter, isn't it? as you say, what is a low level crime? i was burgled. it was horrendous and the police weren't interested. that's an interested. and that's an experience shared by hundreds of thousands of people, people watching this programme , we watching this programme, we think mum calling the think what the mum calling the police and was told still keep ringing. there's not a problem . ringing. there's not a problem. three dead, two now fighting for their lives in hospital. doesn't that a complete disconnect? that show a complete disconnect? yeah. and a lack of appreciation of the concern . and this could of the concern. and this could be down to a lack of experience of that person ringing up, expressing their fears totally out of character. doesn't do

this. but then, of course , it this. but then, of course, it would have ticked all the boxes because of their age is because they're young people. and of course, some young people do go out party all weekend and not come home to monday till monday . fundamentally, these youngsters didn't said they didn't. indeed, nobody listened . there'll be an inquiry. didn't. indeed, nobody listened . there'll be an inquiry . and . there'll be an inquiry. and the there'll be legal action, no doubt. the there'll be legal action, no doubt . doesn't bring those doubt. doesn't bring those children back. does a tragic leap. it doesn't. and i fear as happens so often at the conclusion these inquiries we have a senior police officer in all his regalia and proud uniform stands in front of a microphone in the cameras and says, sorry and lessons have been learned . well, clearly, if been learned. well, clearly, if there are similarities between there are similarities between the 2015 case of i've highlighted this morning, and this case turned out to be the case, then lessons clearly were not done. yeah, absolutely . i not done. yeah, absolutely. i mean, reading some of the detail

, this it's so chilling . one of , this it's so chilling. one of the mothers of one of the girls who's actually in hospital now had driven past that site three times whilst driving around, taking matters into her own hands. what she would do is you don't you don't just expect the police to go find them. you know, you would out looking know, you would go out looking yourself and then the police helicopter was launched to search for the missing car. but it was actually found by a dog walker, just like the nicola bulley case. and it was found by a dog walker who came across the vehicle with, obviously, as we say, three deceased and two who are still critically ill in hospital. what do you think the mood would be like amongst the police officers in that area now, peter, quite frankly , it's now, peter, quite frankly, it's very difficult to read the mood of the police at the moment . of the police at the moment. social media sometimes you a good window in there because there are some very useful, albeit disguised and anonymous accounts that give you a window into policing . and what into policing. and what i continually hear is rock bottom

morale, discontent, continually hear is rock bottom morale, discontent , officers morale, discontent, officers leaving for other jobs in their droves . and quite frankly, i'm droves. and quite frankly, i'm worried, concerned about the experience , the aptitude and the experience, the aptitude and the ability of those who are left and the instincts, whereas a police officer's instinct gone . police officer's instinct gone. yeah. where's that disappeared from ? you cannot measure that in from? you cannot measure that in 2023 you see everything in policing, everything in policing has to be measured. you see. it's why a police officer, a neighbourhood cop can't go out on the beat for 8 hours, walk around engaging people because they'll come back in and they'll say, how do we measure your effective this? they left effective this? and they left ten full tonne of paperwork to do. right. thank you, peter do. all right. thank you, peter . always good see you. it's . always good to see you. it's the under such the same. it's always under such tragic circumstances now, we've tragic circumstances. now, we've been plans been covering home office plans , they to push the , they say, to push the boundanes , they say, to push the boundaries of international, to , they say, to push the bottoiaries of international, to , they say, to push the botto finallyf international, to , they say, to push the botto finally stopernational, to , they say, to push the botto finally stop migrants, to try to finally stop migrants from illegally entering the uk . from illegally entering the uk. across the channel, it's a direct challenge to european human judges. earlier we

human rights judges. earlier we spoke to the former brexit secretary davis, who secretary david davis, who says it could lot simpler . it could be a lot simpler. albanians. i think we can solve fairly quickly. the other two thirds are afghans. now, what do you do with somebody who's been an afghan interpreter for the british army if he's caught by the taliban will be murdered and his family will be murdered within . so he takes a false within. so he takes a false identity to get out of afghanistan into pakistan or iran, and then pays somebody to get him here. and under the new laws , he's going to be laws, he's going to be automatically rejected for asylum. when i said we could do with albania, if you can declare a country, a safe country, but right then you you can create a law which allows to turn around like that. no appeals, nothing . like that. no appeals, nothing. now, why do i say that? because swede and have already done it. sweden. you know, social democratic, civilised , you know, democratic, civilised, you know, nice, upright. democratic, civilised, you know, nice, upright . sweden democratic, civilised, you know, nice, upright. sweden has done it. and how do they do it? they

looked at the international court. so why this is all funny in the papers when they looked at the international court case law designed the law around law and designed the law around it. if we copied it. and if we just copied sweden's law, we could guarantee that the european court of human rights you rights wouldn't interfere. you know , we're getting a lot of know, we're getting a lot of text people saying, why text and people saying, why isn't the minister? isn't he the prime minister? i know. he the home know. why isn't he the home secretary? i don't know. he did run for the tory leadership in 2005. of course that mandate 2005. but of course that mandate of yeah. well, of cameron got it. yeah. well, didn't right. still come didn't he? right. still to come on morning show, we're on this morning show, we're going biggest going through the biggest headunes going through the biggest headlines papers, headlines for the papers, including demanding headlines for the papers, including must demanding headlines for the papers, including must reinstate anding headlines for the papers, including must reinstate theing that they must reinstate the word pregnancy word woman in its pregnancy website yeah, we're website pages. yeah, so we're delighted to joined by the delighted to be joined by the politico, mirror, politico, the sunday mirror, nigel political nigel nelson and the political commentator buxton . good commentator tonia buxton. good morning, right, tony. morning, both. right, tony. i think we're going to start with immigration first on we just heanng immigration first on we just hearing david davis. we're very fortunate to have in the fortunate to have him in the studio this morning. it's hard to this his to see this from his perspective. sadly all of our experts are lawyers or border force control . people all say force control. people all say it's not going to make any

difference. nothing's going to change. that's what's so heartbreaking about it, because actually i find this very sensible. is similar to sensible. this is similar to what did you if what australia did. you know, if you try to come in you if you try to come in illegally, you'll never, illegally, then you'll never, ever a place in the country ever get a place in the country if you try and come in legally, then you will. it just will then you will. it just it will deter human traffickers deter all the human traffickers are doing it because people won't £5,000 rather won't pay their £5,000 rather an act it's doing. i think act of what it's doing. i think it's a great deterrent. i think that's we need. need that's what we need. we need some deterrent because nothing stopping . and stopping these people. and what drives just say, well, drives me not just to say, well, why you trying to get the traffickers? because as soon as you of the traffickers, you get one of the traffickers, there be load there there will be another load there in i mean, a lot of in 30 seconds. i mean, a lot of the lucrative a big money the lucrative is a big money making business. you know, think there's such good salespeople, though, tell the though, that they just tell the vulnerable the needy, vulnerable, the needy, the desperate, frankly the greedy. some of them, they will just say to them, no, no, no, this isn't true. you've true. you've you've misunderstood. you've misunderstood. you've misunderstood know, on misunderstood the you know, on media. that's even if the person has enough command of has a decent enough command of engush has a decent enough command of english to read english to be able to read what's being but they've what's being said. but they've all they've got all got iphones, they've all got

media, that they're media, they can see that they're being back and that being being sent back and that being deported without getting put into old soldiers into kind of the old soldiers barracks kept in the i mean, barracks and kept in the i mean, we keep paying for we can't keep paying for millions people in hotels. millions of people in hotels. but, know, there's story but, you know, there's a story recently tok, some recently on tik tok, some of these smugglers these people smugglers advertise their on tik tok. so if their services on tik tok. so if they advertise on tik tok, why can't the old bell feel their collars pinch to climb the collars and pinch to climb the people smugglers? i mean , that's people smugglers? i mean, that's exactly point. the i mean, exactly the point. the i mean, what labour are talking about is actually scrapping, right. and using to money fund anc, using the to money fund the anc, the crime agency, to the national crime agency, to do this . but it the national crime agency, to do this. but it seems that every time you disrupt one of the people smugglers, they just change their business arrangements. so it makes it more difficult. i mean, the problem with all this is we'll have to see later today what is actually proposed . but at actually being proposed. but at the you that it's hard the moment, you that it's hard to see how this can work. we're talking about safe routes that do work for syrians, for ukraine auens do work for syrians, for ukraine aliens and for hong kongers . aliens and for hong kongers. less so for afghans. aliens and for hong kongers. less so for afghans . and what less so for afghans. and what happens under a situation like

this where you have some of the afghans who were loyal to that, to the british, they work for us. they couldn't get out when it happened. and now they're coming over on small boats . i coming over on small boats. i know of mps who are getting letters through saying, look, we gave you all their paperwork. it went to the foreign office. nothing happened under this law. those people will be banned from britain now and forever . and britain now and forever. and these are the ones who loyally served us. so there's going to be unforeseen consequences about doing that during this new law. but they are the minority, aren't they? they are the minority, the afghans. and now there are more afghans crossing there are more afghans crossing the channel there are albania. david davis there's a lot of indians coming across now to what are they coming for? because india is a country. absolutely. it's got its own space, its own space program, for heaven's why are we for heaven's sake, why are we allowing well, allowing them in? well, i mean, it's not a question of allowing them in, because we've got to allow they're allow them in if they're claiming asylum under this

proposal they can't go. and proposal that they can't go. and also, i mean, i think a lot of the kind of human rights laws we've got european human rights rules laws been written rules laws have been written some years ago, some of some up to 70 years ago, some of them ago. they need to them 80 years ago. they need to be revised. kind of modern be revised. this kind of modern slavery and the way that theresa may's idea got a few may's brilliant idea got a few of those didn't. she's just on the it's caused the most idea. and it's caused us many problems. this us so many problems. yeah. this is secretary of course, is the home secretary of course, he'd cut 20,000 police officers. yeah. they weren't yeah. saying that they weren't needed. the price needed. we're paying the price of well, our police of that, too. well, our police officers busy doing kind officers are too busy doing kind officers are too busy doing kind of , aren't they? of hate crimes, aren't they? that they time to do that that they had time to do this, sake. yeah. this, for goodness sake. yeah. yeah well, it means to see how it today. how do you think it goes today. how do you think this debate will pan out, nigel? this obviously this lots of i mean obviously the opposition are the official opposition are against awful the tories are against an awful the tories are too they just don't think this is worth but it's such a vote win it's yes right they can't be that much opposition. that's right. and one could be right. and and no one could be against the idea of finding a way deter people from way to deter people from crossing channel. so crossing the channel. so everyone's on same side on everyone's on the same side on that. everyone's on the same side on that . but the opposition comes

that. but the opposition comes down to when they talk about stretching the law, the international as as international law, as far as it'll go, the danger, of course , is that you stretch it too far and the elastic break, they've got great front pages got some great front pages today. they nigel at the mail at the times, the sun. oh, but giving government a lot of giving the government a lot of support proposal. yes. support this proposal. yes. i mean they have but not sure mean they have but i'm not sure us be quite quite us can be quite quite as supportive the of supportive in the house of commons. no more, probably in the lords, probably. the house of lords, probably. well, the judges , well, even when all the judges, all common sense gets hindered in the house of lords. i know. right. moving on, guys. hundreds of doctors and demand nhs of doctors and nurses demand nhs reinstate word woman to reinstate the word woman to cancer and pregnancy web pages. now can you. can i just thinking you're a woman and not just a thing , you know? yeah i mean, thing, you know? yeah i mean, for goodness sake, it's ridiculous. how did it get taken out ? why was it ever allowed to out? why was it ever allowed to be taken out? when we're talking about menstrual cycles, giving birth , menopause, these are birth, menopause, these are women women with i won't say the word , but anyway. well, with word, but anyway. well, with women that we can say the word

cervix because of course, the labour leader, leader of the opposition, sir keir starmer, has difficulty answering the question. does only a woman have a said it's not a cervix? he said it's not a straightforward question. is, straightforward question. it is, it straightforward it is a very straightforward question. about this question. it's about this happened. what happened. but you know what really about all of really gets to me about all of this the money and time this is the money and the time that was to take women that was wasted to take women out. yeah, and now money and out. yeah, and now the money and the is being wasted to put the time is being wasted to put women it should never women back in. it should never have happened. these people have happened. these need people need the thing need to be stopped. the thing is, solution. it isn't is, the solution. it isn't difficult to talk about a woman and woman. yes, i'm and a trans woman. yes, i'm happy with that distinction. i'm very happy. i not want very happy. i do not want somebody is trans. he's somebody who is trans. he's transitioned to being female, to being to seeing themselves as a female gendered person. have female gendered person. i have no problem with them being spoken to in a language which they find more sensitive , but they find more sensitive, but don't just erase all women whilst doing that debate and don't put women only spaces on the. but absolutely. but but you know it's i don't i have a couple of transgender friends and they don't want this they don't want this. they never

wanted the change in language . wanted the change in language. they're not person or a them they're not a person or a them or you and all this rubbish coming out. they don't want it. who is it that's pushing this issue some bleeding heart leprosy been named. leprosy have not been named. i can well, i probably can sit well, i can probably tell he says, because tell you how, he says, because i used to do quite a of work with maternity services. that's where they there was an they started and there was an organisation lose with organisation of do lose with quite companies , quite radical birth companies, with radical ideas about gender who paid huge amounts of who were paid huge amounts of money nhs to go in and money by the nhs to go in and train the midwives under a huge dose guilt and virtue dose of guilt and virtue signalling well to say they signalling as well to say they needed to. but i remember penny mordaunt when she was equalities minister the commons , minister in the commons, referred to pregnant people of course serious problems in a tory campaign, and deservedly so . i'm pregnant women this either way . so the idea actually using way. so the idea actually using gender neutral language. i'm not too opposed to because what do we ask the patient what they want to be called when they're coming into hospital? if you're talking about maternity

services, it's not like if you're a in maternity. so you're a woman . well, i mean, are you a woman. well, i mean, are you a trans woman? it is. you know, you can be a trans woman, not if you can be a trans woman, not if you had a baby. you know, if you're having a baby, you know, that's a very good point. yeah so i really maternity you talking to a midwife, the baby she's having, she called us up so she could be a trans or something else . oh, the regions something else. oh, the regions simply have to do the doctors. are you happy to be called a woman? oh, no, no, no, no. from some in the minority , you're in some in the minority, you're in a minority. also for the first time, people are screaming at the tv saying he's wrong, he is wrong, and also this whole thing that the nhs paid, the radical dufies that the nhs paid, the radical duties in and train duties to then come in and train the midwives, is my the midwives, then why is my hard earned taxes going into pay big sums of money to these radical do this to change the way we are? how dare they use our money in the nhs needs its money under the guise. under the guise an evolving language and evolving society that it feels

like no had a say in whether that was what we wanted, that was was happening . and as was what was happening. and as we was do with, you we say, it was to do with, you know, an unfortunate when you've got young trainee midwife and doctors or , you know, working doctors or, you know, working with women, they're often you know, they they lack the competence to say, i'm not going to engage in it's nonsense. it's the woke tendency , i'm afraid, the woke tendency, i'm afraid, which becoming far too which is becoming far too pervasive in public life. and the nhs using if you use gender neutral language, why not? what does he be be development? gender neutral language . i am gender neutral language. i am a woman. i would want to be addressed as a woman, as all women do, and insist on that time. can you answer the question? i joke it is only a woman. have a cervix. no no, no. i'm going to do. woman. have a cervix. no no, no. i'm going to do . will we come up i'm going to do. will we come up with moving to the point point of can you self—identify ? and in of can you self—identify? and in which case that a woman can have a penis on that basis. which case that a woman can have a penis on that basis . if you if a penis on that basis. if you if you go along the self thing much

more complicated and i've just described that but it is possible nicola sturgeon got into a lot of trouble for this didn't she? she did indeed, yeah . i mean, you know what could easily pass as in medicine, more than any other area, is because we require different treatment than than men . we require than than men. we require a different treatment . you and i different treatment. you and i are required to contribute . the are required to contribute. the problem is as well, if you are doing whole websites on the nhs without the word woman in it, the chances are women don't know what a cervix is. yes, they don't. and so you have to you can't say anyone with a cervix come and have this smear test because there will genuinely be some some women who say, i'm not quite sure what cervix is right . and so you need to make it clear this is for women. so it's not just keir starmer. it's not just actually if you if you live in a kind of more religious environment or confinement, there's certain that are there's certain things that are not out loud within not discussed out loud within a family we do family environment. and so we do you need to be identified as you do need to be identified as a woman to come forward to make sure that health checks are

sure that your health checks are happening. play happening. but fair play to these and nurses these doctors and nurses by demanding common demanding it. well done. common sense restored. i mean, sense is restored. i mean, what's going on in the nhs? there common sense. yeah, there isn't common sense. yeah, yeah. be bold and you yeah. that to be bold and you know i like to think possibly thanks to conversations like this. yeah. there were this. yeah. that there were actually and nurses now actually doctors and nurses now who say no we know who were happy to say no we know we to impose a little bit we need to impose a little bit of common sense not listening of common sense on not listening to clearly not for to nigel. that's clearly not for the first time. that's not for the first time. that's not for the first time. but we love you, nigel, in this programme. right? thank you both. for all of us. you're coming. both of papers this morning. rishi sunak , the this morning. rishi sunak, the latest prime minister to try and crack down on the illegal immigration banning migrants arriving on small boats from claiming asylum . it's not claiming asylum. it's not another tory dream . i suspect it another tory dream. i suspect it might be. i think so. so don't anywhere. we'll see in a few moments how i alex speaking here with your latest weather updates. the wintry weather continues throughout this week. there is the likelihood of further snowfall across large parts of the country . we have parts of the country. we have met office warnings in place .

met office warnings in place. please do check out the met office warnings on websites office warnings on the websites . there are yellow warnings in place across northern for snow showers today. the old flurry further south, but many places actually and cold today actually just dry and cold today . a bit of sunshine for northern ireland. england ireland. northern england and southern temperatures southern scotland. temperatures as average, mostly just as below average, mostly just four five celsius at best. four or five celsius at best. some wet weather pushing into the southwest later this afternoon and through this evening as that works northwards , it could start to provide some sleet and snow overnight and certainly potential for certainly the potential for things icy . and ice risk things to turn icy. and ice risk continues north as well, continues further north as well, with in northern with snow showers in northern scotland but a good chunk scotland. but for a good chunk of country, it'll light of the country, it'll light winds, skies , a very cold winds, clear skies, a very cold and very frost one minus four. even in urban areas could be as low as —15 through some sheltered scottish glens in the south. this wet weather around tomorrow that could provide some snow places that covering snow in places that covering likely perhaps a centimetre or two. it'll be fairly patchy. it will be mixed with some rain here and there, but a cold day nonetheless across much of the

south and then later on we could see the wet weather popping up again through evening across again through the evening across south south—west south wales and south—west england bringing a snow england, again bringing a snow risk here further north, a bit more cloud across the midlands and wales, much of northern and wales, but much of northern britain dry, sunny and cold if we start well below freezing, we get up to three or four celsius, but greater risk through but a greater risk through wednesday of some wednesday evening of some significant parts of the significant snow parts of the south midlands, parts of south wales and particularly southern england. build england. there could be a build up disruptive snow is up of snow. disruptive snow is possible through possible as we head through wednesday night and into thursday morning from this area of low pressure . and then as we of low pressure. and then as we head to thursday and friday, another low comes in. this one's further north, bringing the snow risk further north as these weather fronts come into parts of northern england, of wales, northern england, scotland ireland. scotland and northern ireland. so warnings in place for thursday and to

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friday welcome to the point with andrew pierce and bev turner big day in parliament today on asylum seekers . a landmark clampdown seekers. a landmark clampdown today for migrants arriving illegally by boat train or lorry. they'll be detained if this goes forward early. we spoke to former brexit secretary david davis, who's concerned about the number of albanians entering the uk. have a listen . entering the uk. have a listen. around europe sweep approval for albanians asylum seekers zero. nearly all of europe zero. britain 55% and a war on smoke rose as a leading charity reveals 75,000 gp appointments have taken up by smokers every month . is it time to charge month. is it time to charge smokers for nhs treatment ? and smokers for nhs treatment? and if we do want to. welcome back another hour of to the point , we another hour of to the point, we want to know what you think

about all of the stories we're talking about is rishi sunak's new immigration plan unworkable like the one, or is he like the last one, or is he finally clamp down on those boats coming across the channel? that thoughts . gb that is no. your thoughts. gb views gb news dot uk. but views at gb news dot uk. but first of all, let's get you up to date with what's happening here and around the world. the tamsin roberts . air thank you tamsin roberts. air thank you and good morning from the gb newsroom, it's 11:01. and good morning from the gb newsroom, it's11:01. the newsroom, it's 11:01. the government is today set to unveil new legislation to remove illegal migrants and ban them from ever returning to the uk. the home secretary . the proposed the home secretary. the proposed laws will push the boundaries of international law to the crisis. prime minister rishi sunak has argued the bill will take back control of uk borders. the conservative mp david davis told gb news that all albanians in small boats need to be turned away. most countries in europe, apart from france and italy, i think most countries in europe

have a zero acceptance rate for albanian refugees . and in albanian refugees. and in france, i mean has many, many more than we do and turns down 90 something% of them. we accept 55. that's that's where these things start . 55. that's that's where these things start. labour's shadow business secretary jonathan reynolds says the proposal is nothing new. i mean how many times have we heard this isn't an exact rerun of the arguments over sending people to rwanda? the government says we're going to tackle this, people won't like it. and what happens? nothing happens. they get their plans place. the problem gets plans in place. the problem gets . it get worse? . and why does it get worse? because tackle because they don't tackle criminal they they go for criminal gangs. they they go for the people who are the victims of rather than the criminal of this rather than the criminal gangs and then second gangs behind. it and then second of they don't process any of all, they don't process any asylum if you're only processing 2% of the claims that were made last year, which where the last year, which is where the government that you don't government is, that you don't know should this know who should be in this country and who shouldn't be.

the secretary, matt the formal secretary, matt hancock, considered withholding funding for a learning disability centre to put pressure an mp to back covid pressure on an mp to back covid restrictions and whatsapp messages leaked to the daily telegraph . mr. hancock and an telegraph. mr. hancock and an aide discuss warning james daily that centre will be off the that the centre will be off the table if he rebelled . a table if he rebelled. a spokesperson matt hancock spokesperson for matt hancock says what is being accused never happened and that the leaked message exchange is only a partial account of the conversation . grey's plan to conversation. grey's plan to work for the labour leader sir keir starmer may have breached civil service rules. the paymaster general jeremy quin told the commons that the party geidt investigate peter may have broken four rules, including failing gain prior approval . but failing gain prior approval. but deputy labour leader angela rayner has accused the tories of pursuing conspiracy theories . pursuing conspiracy theories. unions representing nhs staff are beginning talks with the government at averting more strikes . the negotiations will strikes. the negotiations will focus on pay for this year and next for ambulance workers ,

next for ambulance workers, physiotherapists, nurses and midwives. the department for health and social care has previously said the most it can afford is a 3.5% pay rise. but it's been suggested there could be wiggle room during the talks . the gender pay gap in the uk has widened , with men now paid has widened, with men now paid 14.4% more than women. the accountancy firm pwc puts the increase down to a sharp rise in childcare costs , which has childcare costs, which has pnced childcare costs, which has priced many women out of work altogether. it's warned that the rate the pay gap is closing, it will now take more than 50 years to reach gender pay parity and pays are warning that ammunition reserves in the uk and nato allies have fallen to dangerously low levels as they seek to keep ukraine supplied. the comments defence committee says rebuilding britain's stockpile could take at least a decade, putting national security at risk. the committee also says the way in which

western governments procure armaments is not fit for purpose . tributes been paid to three young people killed in a car crash that left two others seriously injured in cardiff. eve smith darcy ross and rafael. john died in the accident while sophie rousseau and shane locklin remain in a critical condition . the car wasn't found condition. the car wasn't found until two days after the group went missing , despite being just went missing, despite being just metres off a main road . the king metres off a main road. the king and queen consort will celebrate colchester's new city status. colchester's new city status. colchester awarded the city title during the queen's platinum jubilee celebration as last year. the couple will visit the city's zoo and castle , as the city's zoo and castle, as well as colchester library , well as colchester library, where they'll join charities age uk and the silver line for tea with local volunteers . parts of with local volunteers. parts of northern england and scotland have been blanketed in snow at the start of a cold spell of

weather. more than four inches of snow has fallen in northern scotland and around eight inches a forecast for later this week. tonight is expected to be the coldest night of the year with snow warnings remaining in areas until the weekend. john hammond says it's not unusual for this of year . the whole reservoir of of year. the whole reservoir of arctic air which has been freezing all through the winter , getting colder and colder and colder. and you only need a northerly way for that arctic air to be unleashed across this. and that's what's and that's that's what's happening. of course. it's going to a shock to the to be more of a shock to the system, given how mild it's been through most of the winter. so some of us haven't seen any snowfall so, yeah of snowfall all. so, yeah a bit of a shock through march because we don't associate march don't normally associate march with but it that with snowfall but it that unusual. not really but you can get snowfall at easter some years . this is gb news get snowfall at easter some years. this is gb news more for me now though. back to beth and andrew .

andrew. very good morning. you're watching and listening to the point. we meet beth and andrew pierce . so rishi sunak is the pierce. so rishi sunak is the latest prime minister to try and crack down on illegal migration, banning migrants arriving on small boats from claiming asylum or using human rights laws to stop their removal. but and it's a big but, i'm afraid it's our home security change. the white report's critics believe it's not just unworkable, it's costly to own waste. land near calais migrant camp has sprung up hundreds of tents and other makeshift structures have been erected, offering shelter to those planning to cross illegally to the uk in the days and weeks ahead . farther up the and weeks ahead. farther up the coast , the area's largest camp coast, the area's largest camp along the railway tracks near dunkirk has now been cleared. evidence that authorities here are certainly trying to disperse

those planning to cross the channel on the uk side, the government is also stepping up the pressure . new legislation the pressure. new legislation which we are told will make claiming asylum all but impossible for those entering the uk illegally and will include a lifetime ban on claiming asylum . any policy that claiming asylum. any policy that will be put in place now and not some ideological or intellectual exercise, our practical steps is going to allow the home office to hopefully get their act together and to work with democratically elected politicians to act upon what people actually want them to do . after months of construction work, miles of security fencing is now in place around the beaches at gravelly near dunkirk. the sight of many of the small boat launches. but in recent weeks, people smugglers of simply moved location and many are sceptical that new legislation will make real difference in managing a crisis that saw more than 45,000 people

cross the channel in flimsy inflatable balls last year. the returns agreements are the nub on which the entire policy lands and if that fails, if there aren't peace , it send all of aren't peace, it send all of these illegal immigrants that these illegal immigrants that the government is planning to detain. then it will all fall apart . it will all be for apart. it will all be for nought. that's a very nought. so that's a very important bit of the plan. intelligence almost a intelligence on its almost a year since then, prime minister bofis year since then, prime minister boris johnson made bold predictions about. boris johnson made bold predictions about . the predictions about. the government's new plan to send many asylum seekers to rwanda. since then not a single flight has off for that country . has off for that country. however determined rishi sunak may be to ensure plan has more success. it's certain there will be end of challenges from those determined to block the government's latest proposals . government's latest proposals. well, not like joins us now from

outside the home office, mark. you're not confident at all, are you, that this latest big proposal from the home secretary sort brockman, has got much chance of success in the same way the rwanda plan doesn't appear to be any good appear to be doing any good either . yeah, i mean, it's just either. yeah, i mean, it's just that i've seen it so many times over on. every time the government comes up with new legislation , new plans that they legislation, new plans that they feel will bring an end to abuse of the asylum system by those crossing illegally into the uk . crossing illegally into the uk. these plans have been thwarted either by illegal challenges or just the practical, adept version of these solutions. just hasn't done what the government hasn't done what the government has hoped they would do and i think the legislation , however think the legislation, however determined the government is to push this new legislation through . sounds like it's got through. sounds like it's got all scoop for this industry of human rights lawyers and

immigration lawyers to mount challenges in multiple courts for many months ahead . so just for many months ahead. so just like the rwanda plan , which is like the rwanda plan, which is still mired in court and looks to be in that process for at least another few months, i think this legislation will be subject to the same challenges. so it could be many months ahead before . we see anyone actually before. we see anyone actually who has been denied asylum being removed from the. it's going to be told retrospective . so be told retrospective. so effectively anyone who crosses by an irregular route from today will be subject told of an asylum seeking bond. in other words , not being eligible apply words, not being eligible apply for asylum and then they will be in the process of removing them as soon as. but how long as as soon as possible? because then

again , going back to the again, going back to the lawyers, anyone has their asylum revoked is . also an appeals revoked is. also an appeals process themselves . they have process themselves. they have lawyers who will pursue quite rightly, i guess, on their behalf whatever avenue is open to them to ensure that their client can stay in the uk for as long as possible . having said long as possible. having said that though, the government says it is determined . the home it is determined. the home secretary, she's put a new video on social media ahead of speech in the commons this afternoon and she is putting forward that message not, get tough message. this is what suella braverman said today. i'm announcing a new illegal migration bill to do exactly that . the prime minister exactly that. the prime minister and i have been working flat out for months to bring this legislation to parliament. this bill will mean that if you come here illegally, you will not be able to stay, you will be detained , removed to your home

detained, removed to your home country , safe or a safe third country, safe or a safe third country, safe or a safe third country like rwanda . we are country like rwanda. we are committed to helping those need, like the hundreds of, committed to helping those need, like the hundreds of , thousands like the hundreds of, thousands of people we supported from ukraine, afghanistan and hong kongin ukraine, afghanistan and hong kong in recent years . but it's kong in recent years. but it's not fair that people who travel through a string of safe countries and then come to the uk illegally can jump the queue and gain system. this bill will bnng and gain system. this bill will bring an end to that. enough is enough. we must stop the. thank you, mark. mark white wrapping up our report there. and that was, of course, suella braverman with a very social media video. she got in the right camera half the time, which was the trendy way they do it, though, as well. they do. so i was reading an auto queue as well. we're joined now in the studio by the chair of migration watch out amendments. you make of amendments. what did you make of that it make you that video? does it make you have to submit your heart sink that it's all headlines all noise, all rhetoric and nothing

seems change? it's all too seems to change? it's all too easy. be cynical, because we've heard all before. so why it be different this time ? in the end, different this time? in the end, i it will depend entirely on the shape of the legislation that eventually is enacted. what that act is going to look like i dare say that there will be huge attack points made to new threat . it's going to be butchered . . it's going to be butchered. the time it left to the opposition and left to the house of lords. it will be eviscerated , if i can use that word this time in the morning. however this is the first time that there's going be enshrined in law a requirement of the home secretary to detain and remove who arrive illegally that that is significant . the extent to is significant. the extent to which it clashes with international law. well, we'll

have to wait and see. but what i would say is that if we are serious about stopping the boats, then some thing along these lines is absolutely essential . and this is, if you essential. and this is, if you like , the first serious step like, the first serious step taken in this direction, shouldn't they, if really want to get this sorted , come out of to get this sorted, come out of the european convention on human , which means that european judges can have no jurisdiction over this whatsoever. instead, they're not doing that . they're they're not doing that. they're saying they found loophole saying they found a loophole whereby european judges will whereby the european judges will not be able to interfere . david not be able to interfere. david davis doesn't think that legal loophole will to loophole will stand up to scrutiny . yeah, a lot of people scrutiny. yeah, a lot of people feel is the case. i say, well, let's wait and see because it's not the only loophole . there's not the only loophole. there's the human rights act, for example , and modern slavery act example, and modern slavery act that through all sorts of other opportune is for people to challenge the law and appeal removal . those need to be

removal. those need to be plugged in. no uncertain . the plugged in. no uncertain. the business about you know without tackling the gang and the smugglers and all that that's fine . fine. smugglers and all that that's fine. fine. but i smugglers and all that that's fine . fine. but i would like to fine. fine. but i would like to believe that we're already doing that. perhaps strengthen it and perhaps devote more to doing it. work internationally. but let's forget that this whole . business forget that this whole. business is not something that starts calais or little further . you calais or little further. you have to people working in afghan nissan in libya in turkey you name it and there are people there working. mark singh this journey the channel. one of our contributors yesterday was saying that there's a street in turkey where there are literally travel agents advertising this service for people to go in, pay a significant amount of money and get on to a potentially

perilous boat across the channel. why can't we work with authorities in turkey to close down those sorts of businesses. well, we probably are working with them and perhaps we could . with them and perhaps we could. they are. i don't know. we could make a bit more effort, but i'd like to believe that that is already happening and our various agencies, security and otherwise , they are involved . otherwise, they are involved. involved. they have to be on something with something on this scale. but let's not forget that what we're about is stopping those . it's of such a scale. now those. it's of such a scale. now that i'm afraid something, really draconian , if you like, really draconian, if you like, has to be introduced . if it's has to be introduced. if it's going to have an effect . andrew, going to have an effect. andrew, you said earlier about the cost you said earlier about the cost you touched on the cost. well, yes . but just you touched on the cost. well, yes. but just think of you touched on the cost. well, yes . but just think of the costs yes. but just think of the costs that it's already. yeah the taxpayers having to. is the impact on schools and housing and everything nhs everything

and everything nhs everything and social cohesion. it's a real problem. absolutely and dare i say, that's just illegal migration . that's overall net migration. that's overall net migration. that's overall net migration . people forget about migration. people forget about that. they say, oh, there are no safe routes. well 450,000 people have been given refuge in the last seven or eight years. tony we're a tiny island, but we don't have the resources to provide everything that you've just mentioned. quickly. it's got to be done over time. and i'm afraid if we've got 5000, maybe 90,000, 100,000 this year going at the present rate , going at the present rate, that's a huge number. and the good weather when the good weather comes, i mean, they're coming in in the winter when the good weather comes, numbers good weather comes, the numbers are going to increase. well we are going to increase. well we are double that we were are double the rate that we were this last year that that this time last year that that signify and so for all sorts of reasons the government really has to firmly toughly and i wish them well , but

has to firmly toughly and i wish them well, but i do i'm i have a slight reservations about what will eventually end up on the statute books . yeah. okay. thank statute books. yeah. okay. thank you. good see you as always. out at the from migration watch. but of course, we are the channel and we love to hear from our viewers at home. so we're delighted to say we're joined now by one of our gb news viewers and listeners, letchford, how well she letchford, on how well she thinks the prime minister performing so jo. morning performing so far. jo. morning to you. good morning. how well are they doing on this? do you have any confidence ? i think have any confidence? i think they're doing very well at all. do you? but i've been listening a looked at the world map to work out where they're all coming . and i just feel that coming. and i just feel that there's absolutely nothing can do about it. i've just watched . do about it. i've just watched. the video of suella. yeah. great sounding good. but if going to turn these people back where they came from as she puts it

then never to return. what happens? do put a rubber stamp on our hands . we know that on our hands. we know that they've actually visited us before . i mean, the whole thing before. i mean, the whole thing is just just seems daft to me. and what you think you would do , jo? and what you think you would do ,jo? | and what you think you would do , jo? i tend to think that this sort of type of sensible in this country that could just run , run country that could just run, run us all. and you are one of those. but what do you think we should be doing doing ? well, i'm should be doing doing? well, i'm afraid i think that we've you know, the floodgates are open. i think we now need to concentrate on what we've done, what mess we've got ourselves into and at some time stop people coming that, you know, aren't meant to become in. i mean, the things i throwing their passports in the dnnk throwing their passports in the drink because they come across if somebody was genuine in looking for asylum wouldn't they keep their paperwork with them? somebody mentioned the small

amount an afghan soldier that we should be looking after. he's got out of afghan got some help. autumn so right across to the uk . surely he would have the paperwork and people like that should be put at the top of the list. but it seems to me that these people are coming . and, these people are coming. and, you know, at the end of the day, we mustn't lose sight of the fact they're human being. but i think there's a more what worries me at my delicate is that i, i think there's something more sinister going on here. and it worries me that most of these people , a young most of these people, a young man and quite honestly , they man and quite honestly, they arrive, you would know from what country they can come from because bless and they all look the same if they done speaking . the same if they done speaking. alice, you need somebody to translate for them and how them with type of work, etcetera . but with type of work, etcetera. but a lot of them are sadly slipping

through the system. where are they going and what are they planning to do with our country? that's what worries me too . i that's what worries me too. i don't know whether you heard some of the detail of this proposal, which is that anybody arriving who is a child or somebody that's gravely ill will be allowed to. my concern is that if you are an incredibly desperate, you might put your child alone on that rendering them even vulnerable . yes, them even vulnerable. yes, absolutely . i them even vulnerable. yes, absolutely. i understand. them even vulnerable. yes, absolutely . i understand. you absolutely. i understand. you know, if there is a well, any child and if they are in dire needif child and if they are in dire need if they are. i think that we should accept the mother with them i mean i've got three boys but very grown but i've never you would just never let your child go on a dinghy never see them again. it'sjust it just wouldn't. i mean, a mother. unless, of course , mean. it unless, of course, mean. it depends. it depends how

desperate the situation if you've come from a war torn country where you believe that staying there and having your child killed to put on child killed to put them on a boat, strange things happen. the suspicion might also be you think, child will get think, well my child will get there? will look there? someone will look after them, put into them, they'll put them into care, and then they'll call for me. but if they were really worried the child, they worried about the child, they could in france, which could just stay in france, which is country. if the is a safe country. and if the child. just said that child. you've just said that possibly that call me, then. possibly that call for me, then. well, would they? because well, how would they? because the child's not going to actually be say who they actually be able to say who they are, they're from. that are, where they're from. is that infants? not going infants? they're just not going to that information . to have that information. they're not old enough to explain that somebody, although. no so how much do you think ? i'm no so how much do you think? i'm just. just interested as a voter, as someone who is politically yourself important, you think this topic is for british people, particularly the run up to the next election . so run up to the next election. so important . i run up to the next election. so important. i have friends that because i'm in ten. they lived in my age. so i moved to devon

to retire and having the same problems down in the south—west and all of those are full to the brim. all the hotels are being let to the immigrants . and that let to the immigrants. and that is my concern. i watched last evening that hotel been taken over by immigrants. the marco pierre white van, which is clearly a nice hotel. they've sex, all the staff no notice at. but my concern is you know okay so if a roof over their head for the time being but who's looking after these who is somebody cooking for them or do they wonder every day and by yeah food that's what they did. yes that's exactly what they do. and they get to daily allowance from they get to daily allowance from the top state. i was a poll done, i was actually all pro exams dewbs& co they had that chap on that was tony adviser. to gentleman ten john mazzoni

and you bless his heart , he and you bless his heart, he wants to give them all the same benefits but oh and if it you know people that were say i mean , you know is this what's going to happen next week next year when they get in because they're going to . so are we going to going to. so are we going to turn our whole country around? i mean, really , we're talking mean, really, we're talking about now is a waste of time because as your gentleman said previously , they'll just come previously, they'll just come in, rip it all out, let let everybody come in that wants to come in because we're such a kind country. well joe speaks for a lot of our viewers . do for a lot of our viewers. do this. thank you, joe. joe, let's for the downing . lovely to see for the downing. lovely to see you.thank for the downing. lovely to see you. thank you for being such a fan of gb news. do you know where i want to be? i want to be in joe's kitchen having a cup of tea and a crumpet right now. very much to joe all day, but so we're going to still to come, we're going to still to come, we're going to be looking into the political implications of the political implications of

the if the prime minister's plan if it's going work, to crack it's going to work, to crack down small boats. so we'll

well, we've been covering the home plans to push the boundanes home plans to push the boundaries of international rules, they say, to stop migrants from illegally entering the uk. and a direct challenge to european human rights judges . so joining us for more is gb news is political editor darren mccaffrey . good morning, daryn mccaffrey. good morning, daryn surely there will be some sort of political backlash. if so, that goes ahead with this today today. that goes ahead with this today today . yeah, just let me talk today. yeah, just let me talk you through the details. first of all, suella braverman, the home secretary is going to speak in the commons just over an hours in the commons just over an hour's time. i want to hear from the minister downing the prime minister in downing street, hold a press street, could hold a press conference a little later on today as. well. will be today as. well. will there be a backlash? you are rightly from the definitely. of course will be the labour party suggesting this plan is not going to work. i think the main political though for the government could

well be in the house of lords , well be in the house of lords, which is likely to try to some of this legislation . and there of this legislation. and there are many human rights groups who feel that it simply goes too far and that it does impinge on people's human rights . there's people's human rights. there's even talk that the government, if it gets that stage again , if it gets that stage again, look at pulling out of the european convention on human rights, must said it's rights, though it must said it's something that rishi sunak hasn't date terribly hasn't seemed to date terribly keen on, even some of that in keen on, even if some of that in some people his own party are. i think though the big for the mental political problem for the government is necessarily government is not necessarily how this might be. i think opinion polls do suggest that tightening measures or more stringent measures in tackling this mobil's crisis is popular. it's whether it's going to work or not because in the end, if one of your pledges is to stop people entirely from crossing the english channel and that happen, then public opinion might decide that has been a failure . and that is the big failure. and that is the big challenge for the government. we know that, what, 47,000 people

cross last year over 3000 so far this year. will these measures really, really deter people from actually making that journey ? actually making that journey? also, i think how do you tackle the gangs? there's been lots of talk again about that. and we know that presidents macron is going to meet at rishi sunak in france a little later on this week. clearly dealing with the gangs a big issue, but gangs will be a big issue, but that really depends on french cooperation and also think the big problem with the asylum in many regards this country is not even just people coming here in, small boats, but is actually the backlog that's been created. only 3% of the people who appued only 3% of the people who applied for asylum this country last year have actually had their asylum application dealt with . this is not going to apply with. this is not going to apply retrospectively , so we're still retrospectively, so we're still going to have a lot of people who are going to have to have their applications sorted their asylum applications sorted . and then there is the key question in practise question about in practise this is going to prime minister is going to work. prime minister spoke to presidents of spoke to the presidents of rwanda what their

rwanda yesterday. what is their capacity in terms of being able to take some of these migrants? obviously, there is a scheme in place. it's not been used yet. it's bogged in the courts, it's bogged down in the courts, even that sorted, even if that issue is sorted, though, and bev, rwanda, though, andrew and bev, rwanda, when i was there , hasn't got the when i was there, hasn't got the capacity to deal with . tens of capacity to deal with. tens of thousands of people . you know, thousands of people. you know, you can only put three people on a flight and they've only got rooms at the moment for think around 500, though they say they're expand that. they're going to expand that. but moment, there are big but at the moment, there are big questions about whether that scheme potential. so scheme has got the potential. so with possible numbers involved. okay thank you. darren darren mccaffrey. will mccaffrey. and no doubt we will be getting all the details on that debate about it's that debate at about 12. it's happening in house of helen happening in the house of helen has got in touch. so if philip has got in touch. so if philip has got in touch. so if philip has got in touch to germany, has got in touch to say germany, where live, has automatic where i live, has automatic rejection claimants from rejection and of claimants from many countries, including albania. germany do this albania. if germany do this without contravening any european law, what grounds? european law, on what grounds? all in uk able to all lawyers in the uk able to contest uk law by using the ecj? exactly the point david davis is making. pretty making. it's pretty straightforward. they straightforward. so why they just on with it, just didn't get on with it, okay, we need to get on with it

as well. we do think right? just we're to tell you many we're going to tell you how many nhs appointments be freed nhs appointments could be freed every people just stop every month if people just stop smoking. that's all after your morning . thank you. it's morning snooze. thank you. it's 1132. here are the headlines from the gb newsroom. the government today set to unveil new legisla should to remove illegal migrants and ban them from ever returning to the prime minister. rishi sunak ec has argued the bill will take back control of uk borders . the home control of uk borders. the home secretary suella braverman says the proposed laws will push the boundanes the proposed laws will push the boundaries of international law to solve the crisis and stop illegal migrants exploiting the system . ostia over 45,000 system. ostia over 45,000 people. but the unsafe, unnecessary and illegal journey across the channel. our asylum system has been overwhelmed . system has been overwhelmed. we're now spending almost £7 million a day on hotel. stopping

the boats is one of the five promises. the prime minister made to the british people . and made to the british people. and it's my top priority . that's why it's my top priority. that's why today i'm announcing a new illegal migration bill to do exactly that. the prime minister and i have been working flat out for months to bring this legislation to parliament. this bill will mean that if you come here illegally, you will not be to stay . the former health to stay. the former health secretary , matt hancock, secretary, matt hancock, considered withholding funding for a centre for children with learning disabilities to put pressure on mp to back new covid restrictions . in whatsapp, restrictions. in whatsapp, messages leaked to the daily telegraph, mr. hancock and an aide discussed warning james daily that the centre will be off table if he rebelled. i for matt hancock, says what is being accused. never the pay gap in the uk widened with men now paid 14.4% more than women. the

accountancy firm pwc report puts the increase down to a sharp rise in childcare costs , which rise in childcare costs, which has priced many women out of work altogether. it's warned at the rate the pay is closing, it will now take than 50 years to reach gender pay parity . parts reach gender pay parity. parts of northern england and scotland have been blanketed in snow at the start of a cold spell with temperatures forecast to drop to —15 in some parts. more than four inches of snow has fallen in northern scotland and around eight inches a forecast for later this week. tonight is predicted to be the coldest night the year with snow warnings remaining in areas until the weekend . tv, online until the weekend. tv, online and dab+ this is gb news. back now to bev and andrew . you're now to bev and andrew. you're watching bev and andrew on to the point still to come. we'll be taking a final look into more

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in two. welcome back to the point. tweet me bev turner and andrew pierce story today that has lit your attention . we're talking about attention. we're talking about the fact that according to every estimate, 75,000 gp appointments could be freed every month if people only stopped doing what? andrew yeah. is it the time charge smokers for nhs treatment? well, absolutely not. i say . i know what you think, i say. i know what you think, but i agree . well, joining us but i agree. well, joining us now is the writer smoking, simon clark to give us his thoughts on the claim . good morning, the recent claim. good morning, simon. what do you make of this . good morning. well i'm always a bit sceptical when i hear these vast numbers being bandied about. we're told that if smoking is ended in this country, 75,000 gp apartments

will be saved every single month. i find that extremely hard to believe . but of course hard to believe. but of course it makes a huge assumption. and the assumption is that every smoker makes a gp appointment is going to see their gp about an issue caused by their smoking. now this is clearly nonsense because smoking related issues tend to be multifactorial . in tend to be multifactorial. in other words, they could be caused a whole range of issues that may have nothing whatsoever to do with their smoking. i mean, there's obviously group of people of which i'm a member which are people who are obese. so is the next step going to be to try and end obesity so that we save our lives? more gp appointments ? i mean, at the end appointments? i mean, at the end of the day, the nhs is set up on the basis that there is no discrimination on basis of race , creed, colour or lifestyle . , creed, colour or lifestyle. and if we want the nhs to continue as it has over the last

50, 60 years, we cannot discriminate against people whether they smoke or whether they're obese. and a lot of nhs experts say that the obesity crisis will cost the nhs far more in the long term than smoking. and we should point out in defence of smokers they pay an awful lot of tax with every packet of cigarettes and that they buy. that's right. i at the moment between 80 and 90% of the price of a packet of cigarettes out of a rolling tobacco is tax that goes to the government . that goes to the government. now, we're told that the cost treating smoking related diseases on the on the nhs is estimated to be £2.5 billion a yeah estimated to be £2.5 billion a year. but we know treasury receipts that the government makes over £10 billion from from smokers . so clearly smokers do smokers. so clearly smokers do not feel guilty about their habit in terms of what they are allegedly costing the country. i mean, this latest so low initiative by cancer research .

initiative by cancer research. it's all part of a to put pressure to lobby the government to introduce more anti—smoking measures but we don't need any more anti—smoking measures because the population is well aware of the health risks of smoking. i mean, they cannot a sane adult in the united kingdom who doesn't know about the risks of smoking and some of the things they want to introduce. for example, raising age of sale of tobacco from 18 to 21, which is going to infantilize the next generation of adults because if you're an adult and you're an aduu you're an adult and you're an adult at 18, you must be allowed to make informed choices , to make informed choices, whether it's to do with smoking or drinking or eating. whether it's to do with smoking or drinking or eating . the or drinking or eating. the director you effects or your professor smoking organised not professor smoking organised not pro smoking, but you would support people to continue to smoke if wish to do so. let me ask you a question about vaping, because this is a topic that we've discussed on on on this slot several times. and as a mother i am much more concerned

about my children vaping than i am about smoking . it was sold as am about smoking. it was sold as the solution to the health crisis of smoking . and it has crisis of smoking. and it has become a health crisis in and of itself . yes, i'm not sure what itself. yes, i'm not sure what would be more concerned about your children vaping than smoking, because all the evidence suggests that vaping is very much less harmful than smoking and is very little evidence that people stop vaping, go on to. so frankly my children are in their twenties . children are in their twenties. they're not so teenagers. but if they were teenagers, i would far rather if they were going to do anything at all rather than smoked . and the reality is some smoked. and the reality is some children are always going to experiment . and i i'm not experiment. and i i'm not promoting the idea of children . promoting the idea of children. they shouldn't be they should wait until 18 and making informed choice to smoke or vape or drink alcohol. but no i honestly don't think . you should honestly don't think. you should be. let me tell you why. let me

let me tell you why. we've got tony and nigel back in the studio. we're going to be talking to them in a moment as well. i'm sure tony will have some thoughts on this. as a mother of teenagers. smoking is not as you said, not fashionable, as you said, it's a public it's been a public health triumph. actually stopping smoking indoors. we've seen the rates youngsters rates of smoking in youngsters plummet. seen plummet. what we've seen absolutely the rates absolutely rocket is the rates vaping and they're becoming addicted because addicted to nicotine because there's no smell they can do indoors they can do it in their bedrooms parents don't bedrooms and their parents don't know consumed so much know they are consumed so much more via vaping than more nicotine via vaping than they ever did via cigarettes. and you're setting up for a lifetime of addiction , whether lifetime of addiction, whether that's addiction to vaping, eventually cigarettes , eventually cigarettes, eventually cigarettes, eventually cannabis, eventually alcohol with vaping, allowing young very young teenagers to develop an addiction and behaviour. that's my concern . behaviour. that's my concern. well, they about nicotine, it's no more than caffeine . if we no more than caffeine. if we take that at face value, should we stop ? you know, teenagers

we stop? you know, teenagers from drinking coffee as well. i mean, again, we want to see teenagers smoking or vaping, but i think the thing is we need to crack down the source and make it very , very difficult for it very, very difficult for children to purchase e—cigarettes or other similar products and therefore, we need to crack down on the sellers. does anybody really nicotine is more addictive than caffeine is more addictive than caffeine is more addictive than . yes, more addictive than. yes, i certainly do think there are already , of course, restrictions already, of course, restrictions around children being allowed to buy caffeinated that already exist. you can't buy those caffeinated drinks if you're under 16 or under 18, if it seems vapes among children is a mark to the children the way they look. and if you go into a newsagent , they're on display newsagent, they're on display where cigarettes are no longer on display because they've been hidden away from public view. yeah, think it's an evil thing yeah, i think it's an evil thing that needs to be. that's what we should be addressing. i think also to wrap up, also just just to wrap up, simon, on,

simon, before we move on, i think we all in support of being to make personal choices as adults and frankly , we start to adults and frankly, we start to restrict access to cigarette smokers . then it restrict access to cigarette smokers. then it is a very slippery slope, as you say. simon and really that becomes know nhs if it all subjective based on behaviour choices . but based on behaviour choices. but thank you so much for joining us. interesting to talk to you. simon clarke, their director of forest smoking . nigel nelson forest smoking. nigel nelson i feel we get an opinion from you on that before we move on. well, all right. confession time. i'm both a smoker and vapour oh, both a smoker and a vapour oh, and trying to is and what i'm trying to is increase the vaping and reduce the smoking because i think vaping obviously is less harmful. yeah yeah . as it is harmful. yeah yeah. as it is expensive that is much cheaper is and so the next question will whether the government will start taxing of course they will taxing of vapes. but it does seem to me it is a good way of reducing smoking. but that's what it's meant to be. it's not meant be for kids. the whole point of it is that it should be a non a non—smoking a that is

the point of it. and i've tried absolutely everything to quit smoking so we go back to those things used to used to suck with a bit of nicotine them they were horrible we've tried the patches and so on hypnotised. no i've never done that. bruno know the people have been hypnotised successfully. alastair campbell, our went our old friend that he went through that . but i do think through that. but i do think that the vaping is the nearest thing that comes to smoke because using your hands because you're using your hands , you've got a bit of water vapour coming out . so i think vapour coming out. so i think obviously it's a lot better. the question is how you stop kids, kids getting involved in it, that to me seems to be to crack down on the shopkeepers who sell it to kids on the market. i make in flavours that are strawberry. yes i was just about to say. i mean, it's like going in a sweet shop, isn't there like going into sweet shop. but you pick which flavours getting sweet and is restrict in this is there an age restrict in this age, 68, i think i've seen kids younger that she's buying vape commonly . absolutely. my kids commonly. absolutely. my kids will out much you in my

will come out as much you in my house so you know people have walked in and thought that it's okay because my sons will have friends as as friends rather. and as soon as i find just take them off find i'll just take them off them, them, it to go them, take them, smash it to go well, but understand that. oh, i'm not i'm not into i'm not into parenting popularity. into parenting for popularity. that's been quite . can that's no i've been quite. can l, that's no i've been quite. can i, i just ask you, nigel, i, can i just ask you, nigel, that as a smoker if the nhs were to limit your care because of your lifestyle choice, what would your reaction basically be. furious. i'm the same way that do you do you actually stop bungee going into the bungee jumpers going into the nhs. so is doing a dangerous sport. my rides she fell sport. my wife rides she fell off a horse last year, ended up in hospital. now you could argue that if she hadn't ridden she would actually have an intact pelvis . yeah. on the basis of pelvis. yeah. on the basis of that she should get nhs care if i succumb to my smoking habit, i feel i should say so. slippery slope isn't it? isn't it? right. let's move on to another story. tonia buxton the whatsapp messages. matt hancocks, what are the latest disclosures?

we've got little exchange about the fact that he was going to limit funding disabled children in a facility in bury in north one. i mean, i'm laughing because. it's so awful. you kind of it's sort of hysterical makes me it makes it mildly hysterical whole i mean anything is smoke coming out of my ears so i think we're we've got a lot of these to come and i'm not going to go into the fine out of each of these messages is particularly disgusting of matt hancock. but what it proves to me is the is the low grade quality of mind of. our politicians, the way they i do think they behave. i do think there should criminal action should be some criminal action put for well, put against them for well, i always i pronounce wrong always the i pronounce the wrong malfeasance malfeasance, malfeasance malfeasance, malfeasance in office because i don't behave. i don't don't think they behave. i don't understand why there aren't any urgent questions in parliament about what's going on here, because this is a horror. we were locked up. i'm speaking to mothers regularly who lost their children, whether mothers regularly who lost their ch university. whether mothers regularly who lost their ch university. i whether mothers regularly who lost their ch university. i lost whether mothers regularly who lost their ch university. i lost a whether mothers regularly who lost their ch university. i lost a friend hether at university. i lost a friend to cancer because you couldn't get to a doctor. lockdowns did such terrible things and they

were a flick of coin were down on a flick of a coin they weren't thought so they weren't thought about. so this more serious than this is far more serious than just the that these just the fact that these whatsapp come out. it proves that we will put into a draconian systems like living conditions over nothing. you feel vindicated . tanya, you were feel vindicated. tanya, you were a very vocal sceptic around lockdown . i think i feel lockdown. i think i feel vindicated when i'm cooking again, back on, you know, on on terrestrial television, which i'm never will be again. terrestrial television, which i'm never will be again . because i'm never will be again. because because i was so vocal about lockdowns because could see lockdowns, because i could see people suffering and what was going on. lost because of going on. i've lost because of lockdown, because of covid. lockdown, not because of covid. i don't think i'll ever be i don't want to be vindicated. i just want them put it right and i think it could never happen again. it it could never happen because it has to come out. no government ever taken powers government has ever taken powers in before and can't in peacetime before and can't ever again that but that ever happen again that but that in itself. nigel slightly worries me because we knew that the infection fatality rate with covid was incredibly small. we knew very we knew that knew that very on we knew that by by the end of the first

by the by the end of the first wave we're really across wave we're really looking across the we did we did did the world if we did we did did we did. we knew that we absolutely that there was a very small particular of people who were at risk. everybody had an individual profile as we do individual risk profile as we do for cancer, we do for for cancer, as we do for everything. everybody's everything. and everybody's individual was individual risk profile was completed. set that up completed. right? we set that up . my concern if a virus comes along again and there was talk of one recently, i can't remember which it was that jenny windley has a very high infection fatality rate . we infection fatality rate. we won't listen to. the government. well, i mean , that's where well, i mean, that's where i think that you have to argue. i'm putting the matt hancock whatsapp whatsapps out there is in the public interest. it is well there is no thought about that because they would come out they would have coming out anyway in the public it wouldn't last all journalist that would be too late. so obviously we have an absolute right to see this material. have an absolute right to see this material . what it comes this material. what it comes down to going right back to the beginning of the pandemic. we

really didn't know what covid was going to do. so but we did have the imperial college . have the imperial college. modelling which was saying up to 500,000 people could die without some kind of intervention no. it was still something that wasn't a prediction that was just a warning of what might happen. no, because if you look at the first news conferences they did, the first ones, whitty and vallance, all said, is that don't worry about this , you don't worry about this, you don't worry about this, you don't have to wear masks because they'll do nothing to airborne virus. have to shut virus. we don't have to shut schools children not schools because children are not a of this. they're not a not part of this. they're not going be by covid. going to be harmed by covid. it's just the old that was that what they were first to as what they were the first to as i said. and then they to lie to us. they started to take these graphs them and i'm graphs and twist them and i'm going quote vallance going to quote patrick vallance here for these. what's here from dc for these. what's up let's see, he actually said up? let's see, he actually said he was a chief scientific officer. my advice that the government suck up the government should suck up the miserable of miserable interpretation of scientific data and then to in an atmosphere of cranked up fear

they did this to us. these children are suffering washing their oh seeds anorexics themselves suicide . they did themselves suicide. they did this to us and they have to pay. they have to pay for it. do you accept the first lockdown was the only thing they have done at the only thing they have done at the time? yes. no, i do. i know you do . and i think what we you do. and i think what we should have done is, is what they said at the great balance declaration, try and isolate some were some people that were vulnerable. an airborne vulnerable. but it's an airborne virus. the reality you virus. and the reality is you can't virus, you can't an airborne virus, you just can't do it. the first the first one i was on board with, because i don't think we knew. we thought societies is emerging china at that stage at that point false of point and false which of course you can't trust them. i was i was just perpetually astonished by the amounts of trust that people why i'm people had. that was why i'm trusting trust. the trust trusting the trust. the trust element was that the time, element was that at the time, the mitigations they were putting place seemed to be putting in place seemed to be reasonable what we knew at reasonable given what we knew at the three week, the danger the time. three week, the danger of the nhs being overwhelmed was, was the, which was the main

thing because was what thing that because that was what was happening in if you was happening in italy if you remember, that happening in remember, that was happening in italy and they didn't want it repeated right. repeated here. that's right. happened because happened endlessly because everybody they everybody was isolate and they didn't have ambulance drivers. it actually of it wasn't actually because of covid, also happened in covid, but it also happened in italy seen italy because what we've seen from the world, the from from across the world, the average age of death is 82, with at least one pre—existing medical condition. in italy, medical condition. and in italy, there were a lot of intergenerational family living. you to work out. you you only had to work out. you only had to look at mortality statistics realise dying statistics to realise was dying in to realise the in italy, to realise the majority them were 80 majority of them were over 80 and therefore we should have, as tanya then said , and then tanya then said, and then we could an the great could have an act, the great barrington declaration is to put protect this is the revelation protect. this is the revelation about these messages is we about these text messages is we not neither we neither not we did neither we neither protected in the protected the vulnerable in the way should have done way that we should have done right early wave and right in that early wave and allowed younger those at allowed the younger those at very risk to have freedoms very low risk to have freedoms because nobody asked the elderly why, why, why ? if that was what why, why, why? if that was what they wanted, why don't we follow they wanted, why don't we follow the of pandemic policy the years of pandemic policy that we had been looking at over these scientists, these these these scientists, these doctors? a pandemic

doctors? they had a pandemic policy. thrown out policy. why was it thrown out the window? follow china. that was still but that's we still haven't come. so i think we're just going to show you some pictures right now in colchester , essex. i think it's king and the queen. queen colchester is becoming a city is getting city status . so they're getting status. so they're getting a royal visit from the couple. i like to call fred and gladys because who they remind me of, i like that very much as i speak. as a staunch monarchist. but don't you think they've got a bit touch, fred and gladys, bit of touch, fred and gladys, about them? i don't know. fred and just an archetype and gladys are just an archetype book. you mean seventies? just just of. yeah. nice just a couple of. yeah. nice couple seventies. couple in the seventies. grey hair, sweet yeah. hair, rather sweet couple. yeah. and there with the lord and that there with the lord lieutenant meeting the lieutenant and meeting with the local dignitary and not a particularly crowd out there for them, but yeah. so anyway there they are listening on the radio queen consort in a beautiful white coat and a lot of round rimmed furry hat. yes. and prince charles looking his usual small self in a dark blue white.

okay. yeah and coaches have congratulated the coach . a city congratulated the coach. a city having a lovely time. yeah it looks like a nice life, doesn't it, when you them like that. would you like that life, tony? no, no. man oils. i took prince charles some olive oil once when i went to back buckingham palace. i saw hard he palace. but i saw how hard he worked. would not like worked. i would not like that life . i mean, it makes life. i mean, and it makes interesting people, but i'm afraid he also makes him very boring. i'm afraid quite boring. yes, i'm afraid quite often and quite regularly . and often and quite regularly. and he to spend a lot of time he has to spend a lot of time with politicians. yeah, right. what a week. we nigel, what a week. yes, we do. nigel, you've reminded that. okay you've just reminded that. okay i think we've come to the end of our show. we have. we never got to talking about starmer. oh, there in his book there was loads in his book about another time. thank you both tonia buxton and nigel nelson. can go have nelson. you can go and have a cigarette outside. thank you . cigarette outside. thank you. automate. thank you, andrew well, of course. thank you all for watching. coming up next is gb news live with mark longhurst. this is to the point with andrew bevan and we'll be back tomorrow. don't forget 930. be there then . alex deakin here

be there then. alex deakin here with the latest weather updates. the wintry weather continues throughout this week. there is likelihood of further snowfall across a large part of the country we have met office warnings in place . please do warnings in place. please do check out the met office warnings websites . there warnings on the websites. there are yellow warnings in place across scotland snow showers across scotland for snow showers today. across scotland for snow showers today . the odd further today. the odd flurry further south, many places actually south, but many places actually just cold today . a bit just dry and cold today. a bit of sunshine for northern ireland. northern england and southern temperatures southern scotland. temperatures below average, mostly just four or at best. wet or five celsius at best. wet weather pushing into the southwest later this afternoon and through this evening as that works northwards , could start to works northwards, could start to provide some sleet and snow overnight and certainly the potential for things to turn icy ice risk continues further north as well , with snow in as well, with snow showers in northern scotland . but a northern scotland. but for a good chunk country, it good chunk of the country, it will winds, clear skies , a will be winds, clear skies, a very and very frosty one very cold and very frosty one minus four. even in urban could be as low as —15 through some sheltered scottish glens in the south. this wet weather around

tomorrow that could provide some snow in places a covering likely perhaps a centimetre or two. it'll be fairly it will be mixed with some rain here and there, but a cold nonetheless across much of the south. and then later on we could see the wet weather popping up again through the evening across south wales and south england, again and south west england, again bringing risk here bringing a snow risk here further north. a bit of more cloud across the midlands, wales, but much of northern britain dry, sunny and cold. we start well below freezing. we get up to three or four celsius, but a greater through but a greater risk through wednesday evening of some significant snow parts . the significant snow parts. the south midlands, parts of south wales southern wales, particularly for southern england, be a build england, there could be a build up of snow disruptive snow is possible head through possible as we head through wednesday and into wednesday day, night and into thursday morning. that's from this low pressure. and this area of low pressure. and then as we head to thursday and friday, another low comes in, this one further north, bringing the snow further north as these weather fronts come into parts of northern england, of wales, northern england, scotland, northern ireland. so warnings place for thursday warnings in place for thursday and friday to tonight . on gb

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it's 12 noon.a it's 12 noon. a very good afternoon to and you're with gb news live i'm mark longhurst and let's take you straight to colchester because the king and queen consort there and you can see them there walking to colchester castle, a wave from the king because this is the royal affirmation , the city status . affirmation, the city status. colchester, which was announced back in november 2020 to and we

have, as