good afternoon. wonderful people it's patrick christys here on gb news with you all the way through until pm. but here's what's on the menu this hour. well, it looks as though gary lineker is set to keep job if his latest tweets are anything to go. we will hear from gary lineker this show shortly . and lineker this show shortly. and we've a lot about illegal we've heard a lot about illegal immigration, but what about the legal stuff the government might be about to do deals that some are saying essentially could lead to open borders. certain countries to the countries put back to the channel because it does channel now because it does essentially hinge on whether the french say we all know to our

new illegal bill i'll be asking whether or not macron is indeed a friend or a foe. and in other as well a labour mp come out and said that the british taxpayer should pay reparations to canbbean should pay reparations to caribbean countries for the slave . where do you stand on slave. where do you stand on that? ladies and i will be with you all the way through until six. make sure you lock yourselves up . get those emails yourselves up. get those emails coming in lives in gentleman gbviews@gbnews.uk . yeah, i'll be gbviews@gbnews.uk. yeah, i'll be taking your emails on the gary saga. like i said, we're going to hear from him shortly, but also well. or not, think also as well. or not, you think we should reparations to we should pay reparations to canbbean we should pay reparations to caribbean countries for the slave trade? gb views gbs . i slave trade? gb views gbs. i don't uk, but right now if the headunes. don't uk, but right now if the headlines . good afternoon it's headlines. good afternoon it's 3:01. i'm rhiannon jones the gb newsroom. gary lineker has described the fallout over his criticism of the government's

immigration policy ridiculously out of proportion . the bbc out of proportion. the bbc presenter tweeted earlier this week, comparing the language the government used to set out asylum plans to that used by germany in the 1930s, then says he stands by his and confirmed he stands by his and confirmed he will presenting match of the day on saturday. the culture secretary lucy fraser says it's important the bbc maintain impartiality if it's to the trust of licence fee payers as somebody whose grandmother escaped germany , the 1930s, escaped germany, the 1930s, i think it's really disappointing and inappropriate to compare government policy , immigration government policy, immigration events on immigration to events in germany in the 1930s there. it's important the bbc to maintain impartial if it is to retain the trust of the public who pay the licence fee . well, who pay the licence fee. well, mr. lineker spoke to reporters outside his home this morning

and said he doesn't fear suspension by the bbc . do you suspension by the bbc. do you fear going suspended or not even if anything about the tweet? gary sending the tweet , do if anything about the tweet? gary sending the tweet, do not do you stand by what you or do you stand by what you said in your tweet ? of course , a of your tweet? of course, a of people in england waiting to start routine hospital treatment has risen slightly level with the previous record high nhs . the previous record high nhs. england says around 7.2 million people are waiting to start treatment at the end of january. but the number longer than 18 months in the same period has down. a survey released today by the royal college of nursing shows, a significant decline in the quality of patient care as as the wellbeing of nurses and a midwives across england . and the midwives across england. and the weather warnings for snow and ice are in place for parts of the uk . there's a potential risk the uk. there's a potential risk to blizzard conditions to spread across the uk . the met office

across the uk. the met office warning power cuts likely as well as travel and cancellations . the coldest temperature in march in more than a decade was recorded . the highlands recorded. the highlands overnight dropping to as low as —16 degrees . the zaf region —16 degrees. the zaf region nuclear power plant , the largest nuclear power plant, the largest in europe, has been weakened acted to ukraine's energy grid after power was lost during russian missile strikes. the plant down to emergency diesel generators for the sixth time to keep cool in reactor fuel and prevent a potentially catastrophic meltdown . ukraine's catastrophic meltdown. ukraine's military says russia 81 missiles, including six hypersonic missiles on cities across the country, at least nine people were killed in the strikes strikes . back here, strikes strikes. back here, bofis strikes strikes. back here, boris johnson reportedly . boris johnson reportedly. dominic raab privately about his conduct during his leadership. it's understood the ex—tory has given evidence to the inquiry into allegations of bullying against the cabinet minister, an

independent looking into complaints made senior civil servants . the daily telegraph servants. the daily telegraph reports it's highly unusual for a former prime minister be involved in a downing street investigation , an and some investigation, an and some welcome good news supermarkets started dropping limits on customers buying certain fresh produce following widespread supply shortages . asda has supply shortages. asda has removed the three products per person on some fruit and vegetables, saying availability has improved and should be back to normal within a couple of weeks. tesco, aldi and morrisons also limited purchases of items such as peppers tomatoes and cucumbers. retailers shortages down to bad weather . transport down to bad weather. transport problems in north africa and europe . and 25 year old singer europe. and 25 year old singer may miller will the uk at this year's eurovision song contest. instead . how not to spend the

instead. how not to spend the instead she'll perform the event instead she'll perform the event in liverpool with the track. i wrote a song. the contest is being held in liverpool arena on the 13th of may on behalf of last year's winners ukraine. ms. miller described it as dream and it's pretty catchy. this is gb news, so i'll bring you more as it happens. now there is over. patrick yes very catchy indeed. now lots of guys do this hour. we start with the latest on gary lineker. he compared the government's migration policy to germany. now he's told reporters that he stands by his comments and said that he's not afraid of suspended by the bbc . lineker suspended by the bbc. lineker has been criticised by a series of government ministers since his tweets on tuesday when he said the language used by home secretary suella braverman was like that used by germany in the

thirties. and we of course all know what means. speaking to reporters outside home this morning, though, lineker asked, do you stand by what you said in your tweets? and we can hear from gary now you regret that? do you fear going to? it's not anything about the tweet, gary sending the tweet. no, not. do you stand by what you said or do you stand by what you said or do you stand by what you said or do you stand by what you said in your tweet. of course , yes . your tweet. of course, yes. well, let me get. joining us now live, the gb news studio is our political reporter , olivia political reporter, olivia utley. olivia, when you became a political reporter, did you ever thing talk about gary thing you talk about gary lineker? about gary all day? yes yes. this quite interesting story, really, because there are so different political to it. we've now both the culture secretary and home secretary weigh in and essentially say that gary lineker has comments that gary lineker has comments that are very disappointing . but that are very disappointing. but actually, this is quite a useful political role for the government. the government is

very proud of its new small boats policy. it believes that the is onside about stopping the small boats. and it's probably right about that. all the polls show small boats is number show that small boats is number issue voters who vote issue for tory voters who vote tory at the last general election . so having gary lineker election. so having gary lineker essentially draw attention to this new piece of legislation is quite useful for the government. you know, government nick has something like 8.6 million twitter followers, most whom it's fair to say like him. and that, of course is fair enough. so it might be easy for him to think that he has got mass pubuc think that he has got mass public support his side. but public support on his side. but you to a leading to the you seem to be a leading to the idea that the majority british pubuc idea that the majority british public do support public do not support what he said. the majority said. well, the majority of the british concerned british public very concerned about issue. so about the small boats issue. so it might that obviously there are a lot of nuances on there and of them might like and some of them might not like what is doing what the government is doing about but the government has about it. but the government has certainly tell from certainly and you can tell from all messaging they're all of the messaging they're giving on podium yesterday giving out on podium yesterday was was the small boats, was was stop the small boats, the government that this the government decided that this policy is a waste or clearly of

water between conservatives and labour. labour, lots of water between conservatives and labour . labour, lots of the labour. labour, lots of the policies keir starmer laid out in that speech in manchester a couple of weeks ago were very similar to the sort of things that rishi sunak been that rishi sunak has been saying. area of saying. but the one area of differentiation was on stopping illegal immigration. the illegal immigration. so the conservatives we can crack conservatives think we can crack this , then we stand a chance of this, then we stand a chance of winning the general election and just the policy they've come up with . there are a lot of things with. there are a lot of things which still to be ironed out about it , but which still to be ironed out about it, but instead of having to questions about some to address questions about some of some of the more more of the some of the more more tncky of the some of the more more tricky of the policy, for tricky bits of the policy, for example, happens example, what happens to immigrants here immigrants who come here illegally , are detained for 28 illegally, are detained for 28 days then to rwanda days and then be sent to rwanda because issues with the because of issues with the courts? they become courts? will they become stateless? like stateless? technically like that, to sorted? that, which need to be sorted? the really having to the isn't really having to address issues because address those issues because there's this distraction of the gary lineker problem. well, there's messaging on there's some mixed messaging on at what the at the moment about what the bbc are do this. there are going do about this. there are going do about this. there are that he are rumblings, reports that he could sanctions for it. could face sanctions for it. there also, though, there are also, though, tweets coming lineker coming out of gary lineker himself saying it's been an interesting days how

interesting couple of days how he got this ridiculous thing to story seems to be abating . i'm story seems to be abating. i'm very looking forward to very much looking forward to presenting match of day on presenting match of the day on saturday. thanks again saturday. thanks all again for your incredible support. it's been how difficult been overwhelming how difficult the situation is now for the bbc because he clearly feels as though he's not going to face any sanctions whatsoever. well, it's an incredibly difficult situation. the bbc and i'm heanng situation. the bbc and i'm hearing contradictory some saying this the bbc now considers the matter resolved , considers the matter resolved, others saying that he may still face disciplinary action . face into disciplinary action. and essentially the problem for the bbc is that technically, gary lineker hasn't broke the broken the terms of his contract because he isn't employed by the bbc . he isn't because he isn't employed by the bbc. he isn't subject to because he isn't employed by the bbc . he isn't subject to the bbc. he isn't subject to the same guidelines. is interesting though, because hmrc are trying to essentially go after him for saying, well, you are employee of the bbc and this is why we want this amount of tax. so it could actually be quite a useful thing for gary lineker that if the bbc do come out say no, you are very freelance , kind of are very much freelance, kind of maybe hook. maybe get him off the hook. they're bit rich. well, it

they're a bit rich. well, it could. well, i wouldn't be particularly good optics, no particularly good optics, but no lineker, up being a lineker, if this ends up being a big but yeah, it big dodging scheme. but yeah, it is for the bbc because is a tricky for the bbc because obviously, despite the fact that he is he is a freelance, he's working on contract. so technically not technically he's not an employee. he clearly in some employee. he is clearly in some ways face of the bbc. he's ways the face of the bbc. he's much associated with the bbc. so can the bbc seriously sustain a position when one of their highest paid stars can say very, very inflammatory comments about government policy over and over again? yes and not be considered to be breaching the bbc's impartial. well, this is it. thank you very. olivia olivia utley, our political reporter. because there's one thing being inflammatory comments, it's another about it's factual another thing about it's factual and not it and whether or not it does diminish the horrific impact the holocaust and germany, etc. and i think something that really should be getting more attention is how many members of the jewish community leading figures have condemned or gary lineker has said, including government minister shapps actually so to get more reaction to this, i am

joined now by lord eric pickles, who is the united kingdom's special envoy . post holocaust special envoy. post holocaust issues . eric, thank you very issues. eric, thank you very much. great to have you on the show. do you think he's maybe going slightly underreported? how offended vast swathes of the jewish about? gary jewish community are about? gary lineker is set just i mean, i personally care whether he attacks that government or not. i don't care if he shoots his mouth off or not. but what is essentially done and sure, it's unintentional is trivialise the holocaust by making a comparison to what's occurring in the channel to the systematic murder of 6 million jews plus people who are homosexuals roma and sinti. true unionists and religious dissenters . it's religious dissenters. it's ridiculous we had a in in we had survived . i came to talk to survived. i came to talk to parliament and she talked about hygiene in the wardrobe with her

mother in the place behind when the came. so her father shot before her mother died . all before her mother died. all a disease in the ghetto . her disease in the ghetto. her younger brother just managed to. they were caught by the and the didn't kill didn't shoot the young boy or turn into a gas chamber. they just simply threw him alive into an open grave and buned him alive into an open grave and buried him . you cannot tell me . buried him. you cannot tell me. you can even compare that to holocaust. we've seen fools wandering around wearing patches. they were on two boxes. we have people for the most trivial things comparing themselves to the jews and the suffering . and that's what mr. suffering. and that's what mr. lineker has done , is diminish lineker has done, is diminish the holocaust is in a way it's a kind of a holocaust distortion. and they should think really carefully about it. i'm sure they do welcome a trip to visit

auschwitz with some schoolchildren. i'm sure they already welcome to meet the holocaust education trust on memorial day trust. and i'm sure that taking through all these various things. but it is it is basically not a good thing for a pubuc basically not a good thing for a public figure to be doing. no, look , exactly. and i think you look, exactly. and i think you put that incredibly eloquently and i'm kind with you on this, which is it's not really so much what you said. oh, there's bbc impartiality guidelines is up to the to decide whether or not the bbc to decide whether or not it's broken. the could argue it's broken. the could argue it's up the punters as well it's broken. the could argue it':decide the punters as well it's broken. the could argue it':decide whetherers as well it's broken. the could argue it':decide whether or. as well it's broken. the could argue it':decide whether or not well it's broken. the could argue it':decide whether or not knowing to decide whether or not knowing is political views they to is political views they want to carry match carry on watching things match of the main thing of the day. but the main thing for me anyway is whether or not he's trivialise something is absolutely heinous as the holocaust and i think that's maybe something that there should of light shined should be more of a light shined on and there isn't really on it and there isn't really comparison. is that so the way that the tory government going about dealing with illegal immigration in the channel and well frankly the that hitler went about to exterminate went about trying to exterminate a you know yeah

a loaded people you know yeah and i have to say hitler succeeded to a large extent emerged nine out of ten jews in poland . i was recently north poland. i was recently north macedonia . 27,000 jews were macedonia. 27,000 jews were murdered. there's only three autonomous 50 jews left in north macedonia. you know, you cannot compare it. now, i'm as i said, i'm there's an open invitation for mr. lineker. let him come and learn the facts but don't compare anything that this government is doing to the holocaust. it's not for the sake of the government the government is big enough to be able to defend is because at a time when the loss survivors are no longer going to be with us, when it starts to from contemporary starts to move from contemporary history history , it's history into the history, it's going to be muscling that we understand it wasn't so long ago that people were murdered because of their release of all their religion and the bbc's mitt completes . well this is mitt completes. well this is what an ostrich is going to seem

to seamlessly seamlessly on really said the bbc in this sense which that you know if they do stand by and watch and gary lineker is obviously very confident if his latest tweets anything go that are going anything to go by that are going to him all almost to stand by him all almost complicit the complicit in trivialising the holocaust . well, i mean, there's holocaust. well, i mean, there's one great certainty in british politics, and i've been told a long time, if you give the bbc an opportunity to make a stance on a moral issue , almost always on a moral issue, almost always certainly get it wrong. and i mean, i don't think they're there. the which they vacillated over this assault at all. i don't blame mr. lineker. i certainly do . bbc's lack of grip certainly do. bbc's lack of grip on on an issue and i think you know the bbc does extraordinarily well in bringing talks about the holocaust to the british public . but there does british public. but there does need to be a degree of consistency. now if i was a general which i was in long lunch, i put my arm around his shoulder and look, gary, you've

got this . i'm why did we do got this. i'm why did we do something about it? why why won't you engage in an anti antisemitism see what's happening .7 look at the holocaust happening? look at the holocaust just get some perseverance because somebody of is very high profile could do the world of good and the world in the way that you do a world of but by comparing the government to the it never works out as us as come the british and it didn't work out terribly well time well no no no that's true i look, thank you very much. great to have you on show much appreciated is lord eric is a uk special eric pickles is a uk special envoy post—holocaust . well, envoy for post—holocaust. well, earlier today the leader of the house of commons, penny mordaunt, she of borrowing from his playbook by being the party of goal hangers apparently in a row over the government's asylum . lineker's response is important by tweeting. thank you for mentioning me and your

clumsy analogy. i'm happy to have been better in the six yard box. if you are from the dispatch box, best wishes . dispatch box, best wishes. fantastic stuff. football fantastic stuff. these football analogies keep on coming down. i think bbc there of course not showing the red after his showing him the red after his own goal. i'll stop. stop. hey, guess the latest crisis guess what? the latest crisis we've talking about. no, it we've been talking about. no, it is a new dance, thankfully, is not a new dance, thankfully, although it is criminal gangs doing for their doing marketing for their speedboat trafficking business. some being advertised for some trips being advertised for £7,000 across the channel for what they say is a 45 minute journey to get into the uk. now rishi sunak has pledged to stop small boats and will meet with macron. any of this macron. but will any of this help authorities tackle help authorities to tackle threat and the gangs it? joining me now is former chief immigration officer uk border force. it's kevin . kevin, thank force. it's kevin. kevin, thank you very much. a lot of people find it hard to believe people can post on taking tok advertising trips for £7,000 and 45 minutes over to the uk. yet we aren't able to stop them as a country . good afternoon, country. good afternoon, patrick. yes i had to look at

the advert just before i came on here. absolutely fantastic . this here. absolutely fantastic. this this is going to be a difficult one because these people, if they're advertising it for 45 minutes, they're going to be coming from a lot further down the channel. they won't be it won't be sort of dover—calais. it'll much, much further down the channel and border force haven't got any that are fast enough to intercept the boats . enough to intercept the boats. we would have to rely on the royal to do that and using their scimitar fast patrol boats . that scimitar fast patrol boats. that is the only way we be able to intercept them . yeah. just, just intercept them. yeah. just, just to clarify, i'll not name kevin. the point of difference here was maybe some of original boat maybe some of the original boat journeys that we've been seeing is that the adverts are for is that the adverts here are for essentially powered essentially high powered speedboats, they. yeah speedboats, aren't they. yeah yes. yes, they are. and this is this is really really difficult because this isn't going to start from the beaches these

types of speedboats have got to come off some sort of dock. so that i would have thought would have limited where they can come from . but the french we would from. but the french we would have to be speaking to the french and get that category night tracking that would really have to be on board because they would have to be able to identify that vessel very, very quickly for us to get anywhere near intercepting it. yeah, it does also raise serious questions. if somebody has £7,000 in their savings , they £7,000 in their savings, they can just use as a high speed taxi service over to the uk, presumably on top of the amount of money they've already paid to get to overpower france. that is, does it slightly undermine the that lot of these the notion that a lot of these people coming over here are indeed poor and helpless? yeah well, it's that you know, on well, it's not that you know, on the head, patrick, that's quite ridiculous. and these are clearly economic migrants, but their paying for them their families paying for them to come over and, it's a big con

because they'll come over they'll claim asylum . they won't they'll claim asylum. they won't get asylum they'll get humanitarian protection and then they'll try and bring the rest they'll try and bring the rest the family over as dependants you know it's a big game and we're losing it at the moment. kevin, thank you very much. coming soon does that is former chief immigration at uk border force bringing you up to date with the latest tactics being used to the channel high powered speedboats seven grand to pop 45 minutes past what you are into britain. while government is britain. so while government is talking tough though illegal talking tough though on illegal immigration, seem to be immigration, they do seem to be suffering. slightly suffering. that's down slightly on .and suffering. that's down slightly on . and they're hoping on legal. and they're hoping that overseas workers could be used to flog the labour shortage in the uk and the british construction industry could the first benefit from more lax first to benefit from more lax recruitment processes. well in the studio to pick through this is ari economics and business editor sam halligan with on the money . talk us through the money. talk us through the laboun money. talk us through the labour. well the flip side to

endless debate this week so the debate apart from gary lineker is of course about those small boats. we had the government putting forward some really controversial legislation before parliament on tuesday that keeps us in the european convention on human rights, but does mean if it goes through the commons , it it goes through the commons, it holds the road. that's the government can deport people when they arrive illegally, even if they're appealing to the european court of human rights in strasbourg, whereas previously they'd have to keep them here during that process . them here during that process. but there's also a flip side to this patrick when liz truss was prime minister , she famously had prime minister, she famously had a 90 minutes stand up rule suella braverman because the prime minister, she wanted liberalise immigration rules to get more people in, more labour, more work , more gdp, more more work, more gdp, more growth, more tax and so on. it's always this trade off between the sense of unfair immigration on the one hand and economic growth on the other hand. and even this week of all weeks,

we're getting signs in the government that some of the immigration system will be liberalised because of the shortage of labour. got some numbers here which we can look and radio listeners can keep their ears peeled as to their eyes. we've got 1.2 million job vacancies in the uk still. that's a big number. when you think the whole workforce is about 28 to 30 million. so 1.2 million job vacancies across . million job vacancies across. the uk already there are visas that employers apply for special visas for care workers, vets civil engineers, sex is where there's a particular shortage. graphic design is another one. but what's proposed are additional special visas. patrick that employers can apply for construction and hospitality and even retail. now this is a sign from the traditional agricultural schemes that we have every year to seasonal workers to pick crops. and what the government are telling now, the government are telling now, the voice is in the dog . they're

the voice is in the dog. they're saying that this story is that it's under consideration , but no it's under consideration, but no decision has yet been made and is really important to highlight to our viewers and listeners this is the kind of flipside of the immigration debate. a lot of gb news viewers and listeners i know you talk about it a lot. they'll be worried about, unfair, illegal immigration. they'll be worried, understandably, competition and for social housing, for nhs care, for primary school places, for their kids and all rest of it. on the other hand, if they want someone to look after their mum who's frail if they want people to serve them in restaurants, if they want workers in other sectors to build homes and maybe their kids more chance of buying or renting a house a reasonable amount of cash then there will need to be some give and take on this immigration debate. it's a really difficult thing to and it's interesting to me that news of this has come out of whitehall just at the time when there's so much debate kind of

on the other side of the immigration debate . but this is immigration debate. but this is a circle which the tories are going to have to square because want be seen to be want to be seen to be controlling immigration. want to be seen to be c agree.ing immigration. want to be seen to be c agree .1g immigration. want to be seen to be cagree . you immigration. want to be seen to be cagree . you this immigration. want to be seen to be c agree . you this this nigration. want to be seen to be c agree . you this this the ation. want to be seen to be c agree . you this this the next. i agree. you this this the next election will stand or fall on this issue above all other issues, not just in tory seats, but the red wall as well . but but the red wall as well. but also election will stand also the election will stand fall on economic growth prosperity. and these are the two sides of the immigration. thank you very, very much, liam halligan. as ever , managing to halligan. as ever, managing to walk across that particular tightrope and balancing it the reverse as i can always visit the liam halligan with all the money. right. okay. well britain is freezing . apparently there is is freezing. apparently there is a weather warning place in large parts of the country and even the dogs arriving cross this morning had some battles through the snow. i'm patrick christys this is

gb news. yes. welcome back . i'm here all yes. welcome back. i'm here all the way through until 6:00. is patrick christys on. gb news. here's a little taste of what i've got coming up. so emmanuel macron and rishi sunak will meet tomorrow the first uk front tomorrow in the first uk front summit five years. i'm going summit for five years. i'm going be asking though all the french really are friends. yes. so we'll get stuck right into the un. should britain pay reparations for its role in slave trade hundreds of years ago? a labour mp thinks the british taxpayer should fork out and give load of money to canbbean and give load of money to caribbean countries. where do you stand on all of that? i've got a lively debate on that one coming away very shortly, but it is for latest news is time for the latest news headunes is time for the latest news headlines with what . we hello. headlines with what. we hello. it is 329. i'm rory smith in the gb newsroom. the culture secretary has told the commons she welcomes the bbc talking to gary lineker about his behaviour on social media. and it is important the broadcast

maintains its impartiality . the maintains its impartiality. the match of the day presenter posted a tweet earlier this week comparing the language the government used to set out asylum plans to that used by germany in the thirties. gary lineker says he stands by his criticism of the government's asylum policy . the of people in asylum policy. the of people in england waiting to start hospital routine treatment has risen slightly level with the previous record . nhs england previous record. nhs england says 7.2 million people were waiting to start treatment at the end january, but the number waiting, the number of waiting longer than 18 months in the same period has down. the government and england are aiming to eliminate waiting times of than a year by march 2025 amber weather warnings for, snow and ice are in place for parts of the uk, meaning there is a risk. potential risk to life. blizzard conditions

continue to spread across the uk with the met office warning power cuts likely as well as travel and cancellations. the coldest temperature in march more than a decade was recorded in the highlands overnight, dropping to a low of 16 degrees. this operation nuclear power at the largest in europe has been reconnected to ukraine. energy grid after power was lost during the russian missile . the plant the russian missile. the plant was down to emergency diesel generators for the sixth time to keep cooling reactor fuel and prevent a potentially catastrophic meltdown . ukraine's catastrophic meltdown. ukraine's military says russia fired 81 missiles, including six hypersonic missiles on cities across the country , killing at across the country, killing at least nine people. tv and dab plus radio. this is gb news. now

back to . back to. patrick well, i've got loads coming away , ladies and gentlemen, including what is going to be a rather spicy debate. as i understand this, on whether or not we should pay reparation to canbbean not we should pay reparation to caribbean labour mp caribbean countries. labour mp thinks as result of thinks we should as a result of the historic slave trade and. our loss of you are getting in touch on already. i'll get touch on that already. i'll get your views out there on the telly. gb views. gbnews.uk. but before we get to that, you before we get to that, as you just large of the uk are just large parts of the uk are in the grip. cold snap with in the grip. a cold snap with the met office warning 16 the met office warning to 16 inches snow in some areas. inches of snow in some areas. the coldest temperature the the coldest temperature of the year night. it year was recorded last night. it was an unpronounceable was —60 and an unpronounceable place in the highlands. significant disruption to transport, including flying power lines and phone network coverage is expected in the areas covered by the met office warnings. and you can see in these images here, conditions have been pretty treacherous for

motorists said that motorists. and the rac said that there been unfortunately there have been unfortunately 50% more breakdowns than usual in affected areas. 50% more breakdowns than usual in driversaffected areas. 50% more breakdowns than usual in drivers stuck d areas. 50% more breakdowns than usual in drivers stuck in areas. 50% more breakdowns than usual in drivers stuck in the s. 50% more breakdowns than usual in drivers stuck in the snow some drivers stuck in the snow in parts of south yorkshire and wales, but the snow wasn't bad news for everyone . oh, here we news for everyone. oh, here we go. look at that little dog running anyway, if you're running that. anyway, if you're listening dog, the listening on radio as a dog, the snow. joined now though by snow. i am joined now though by paul hawkins that drawing the short straw and just the job short straw and just got the job of standing in freezing cold of standing in the freezing cold in grassington in yorkshire where it like it's been where it looks like it's been raining . yeah, technically we're raining. yeah, technically we're well actually we're in skipton , well actually we're in skipton, yorkshire, on the edge of the yorkshire, on the edge of the yorkshire dales . so this spot, yorkshire dales. so this spot, jake, it's out in the harbour the way in scotland, —16 in the highlands overnight, 11 degrees in cornwall . here there was some in cornwall. here there was some snow it's gone now, but only half an hour, 40 minutes drive west towards leeds, towards otley, which where we woke up this morning a. lot more snow there. it's not treacherous. it's not the beast from east, i'd say it's barely even , you

i'd say it's barely even, you know, a medium animal from the east. and it's certainly not snowmageddon, but there is snow around. and the forecast is that this umbrella has now kicked and they do say it's going to get worse that it will turn to snow that , there will be blizzards that, there will be blizzards and there could be significant disruption. that's what the amber alert means. it's in place in finger running up in a little finger running up the of the country from. the spine of the country from. stoke trent to dart to stoke on trent to dart to durham, making way through the pennines through yorkshire through district. and through the peak district. and then me, north wales then also for me, north wales and eastern snow warnings are in place but it is patchy and it's no guarantee of snow. i guess the met office just have to wear on the side of in case there is some snow and there is significant disruption, not just to transport on the roads but also to mobile phone coverage and outages as. also to mobile phone coverage and outages as . well, so and power outages as. well, so those are the warnings are in place. it doesn't mean there's a guaranteed risk of snow, but they're look , check the they're saying, look, check the forecast , take the appropriate forecast, take the appropriate action have to work from action if you have to work from home, you have to, and make

home, if you have to, and make sure you check in on on the vulnerable such as the elderly . vulnerable such as the elderly. is it particularly chilly where you are, paul? i can see you've got the gloves in the house on. it's definitely cold and there are yellow warnings from the met office in place over a much wider area of the uk, which is basically it's really cold. there could be some ice around but it's not as serious as an amber warning. so it really amber warning. so it is really cold at moment. and in fact cold at the moment. and in fact it's kind sleeting , be it's kind of sleeting, be honest. the sleet actually honest. and the sleet actually makes wetter than if there makes you wetter than if there was snow. so it actually feels like it's colder. the like it's colder. but at the moment, it's in this part moment, it's okay in this part of world. honestly we've of the world. and honestly we've been to people. we been talking to people. we know that the yorkshire folk are pretty hardy fight. they're not fussed at moment, fussed about it at the moment, to honest that they're to be honest that that they're watching it. but of watching out for it. but many of them saying we've seen worse them are saying we've seen worse and i'm getting colder. seven softie. yeah i possibly softie. yeah i wouldn't possibly call got call that poll, but we've got a love poll. you very for love poll. thank you very for all everyone's doing all kins everyone's doing the silliest and it's been made silliest draw and it's been made to stand in this league. to stand out in this league. just read a quick email

just going to read a quick email from that says it's normal from a that says it's normal weather for heaven's sake and i am inclined to agree with you and that's i must say. but there we go. anyway, lots of you have been getting in touch with your thoughts, the debate that we're going having very shortly going to be having very shortly on which whether on reparations, which is whether or not we be paying reparations to countries where there was, of course trade a labour course the slave trade a labour mp because wondering what we're talking come out talking about, it has come out and idea quite few of and floated idea quite a few of you on this and we are you saying no on this and we are going to be having a big debate on it and people saying that my mother came over from ireland this is john sorry came this is john sorry mother came over in the 1950s. she over from on in the 1950s. she lives in times perhaps lives in british times perhaps to reparations for the to pay reparations for the canbbean up to pay reparations for the caribbean up until 300 caribbean islands up until 300 years that will be years ago. i think that will be quite common view that john quite a common view that john certainly has . quite a common view that john certainly has. it won't certainly and nick has. it won't be problem. worry. we be a problem. don't worry. we will be able afford all these reparations after we've reparations after we've reparations romans and reparations from the romans and the yesi reparations from the romans and the yes i think the viking. so yes i think i think sets the tone on that. but yes, is a question for. you yes, here is a question for. you there should we actually have to give millions pounds to countries slavery in

countries affected by slavery in the century? there will be the 19th century? there will be a hot debate on that and i'm sure it will be. slightly hotter than the place where there was light, which we talked to earlier. patrick christys. earlier. i'm patrick christys. this is

gb news. welcome back everybody. now labour mp clive has called for the government to engage meaningful negotiations with the canbbean meaningful negotiations with the caribbean over britain, paying reparations for the transatlantic slave trade . well, transatlantic slave trade. well, lewis likened the relationship between the uk and the commonwealth to an abusive relationship in which one partner has endured 400 years of the most hideous abuse, one who now seeks charity, not charity, but rest issues. and so should britain pay reparations to its former colonies. joining me now is dr. jeremy sony. he's doing it, the british empire . and it, the british empire. and martin music is historian and unlicensed lay minister for the church england. i've been asking for emails on this as well. we'll go to those shortly.

should paying reparations should we be paying reparations for slave .7 dr. xavier, i for the slave? dr. xavier, i will bring you in now. do you think that clive lewis is right and british taxpayer and that the british taxpayer owes caribbean nations owes various caribbean nations a boatload cash , you know .7 i boatload of cash, you know? i don't think so at all. i think a complete nonsense to be talking about reparations for something that happened two or 300 years ago.the that happened two or 300 years ago. the just of the of that time, we definitely ascertain simply by paying a government in the caribbean, we have no idea where there's reparations are going to end up. also going to pay going to end up. also going to pay those reparations . and are pay those reparations. and are we going to deduct from those reparations the enormous costs to the british navy of policing , abolition of slavery across , , abolition of slavery across, the world not only britain's trade, but which to about 2% of national income at average height . and the question then height. and the question then also who pays these reparations

say for the british going to pay them .7 it will have firstly the them? it will have firstly the descendants of slaves who are british taxpayers as no black british taxpayers as no black british people will be paying the same for those reparations and also the vast majority of british people who descended from factory workers, farm workers, except whose conditions were very little than the slaves. in fact , in some cases slaves. in fact, in some cases worse . so this whole idea of worse. so this whole idea of this restitution culture, i think a bit of a nonsense. we to address modern slavery today and is a resource into that and whatever resources are should go into that you know 9 million people in africa or in . modern people in africa or in. modern slavery. yes. okay martin i'll i'll bring in on this. as we've just been hearing . i mean, the just been hearing. i mean, the british, of course, did also a significant role in ending the trade. and, frankly, a lot of people alive today , like myself,

people alive today, like myself, who trace my family tree back as far as you like it, absolutely nothing. to do with the slave trade. so why should british taxpayers today made to fork taxpayers today be made to fork out? because the whole out? because i think the whole british community, 19th british community, the 19th century enriched by slave century was enriched by slave trade. received two trade. britain received two centuries of unpaid from over 15 million african slaves in the canbbean. million african slaves in the caribbean . the wealth generated caribbean. the wealth generated by this to about 11% of the british economy in the early 19th century and, which was built on that billions of pounds, but also in order to compensate slave owners , slaves compensate slave owners, slaves were freed. the uk government in 1833 paid them somewhere . the 1833 paid them somewhere. the region of £17 billion in today's values and so huge was the loan taken by the government to pay off the slave owners . and i off the slave owners. and i think people who are listening and viewing this will be shocked to discover that it wasn't paid off until 2015. it was only in

2015 that the uk taxpayer stopped paying the modern creditors investment houses who inherited the loans and consequently benefit benefited from that made in the 1830s billions and billions of pounds and not a penny went to the slaves or their descendants. and it is not going to be the uk government. somebody my opinion, needs to be paying . there's a needs to be paying. there's a lot in legal phrase , says quite lot in legal phrase, says quite bono, who gains from it. well, some families and some institutions made a mint out of slavery. my opinion is follow the money someone needs to pay. all right, dr. dre, come to that place where this idea that this is sort of guilt that is going to be paid from people who were not responsible for. to be paid from people who were not responsible for . what not responsible for. what happened? you know , we hear happened? you know, we hear about the costs of compensating owners , what this gentleman owners, what this gentleman forgets is the thousands of owners were not big slave owners

. they were not big corporate houses. they were little old ladies living in cheltenham whose pension was being paid for by owning half a slave or enslaved . now they have to be enslaved. now they have to be compensated. and it was done at the time when private property considered sacrosanct . the only considered sacrosanct. the only way of abolishing slavery was by buying out the slave owners and ownership wasn't just a western european phenomenon, it was a global phenomenon which the british helped stamp out across the british empire . it was the british empire. it was carried on in the middle in the arab world, in china, in india, where come from right into the 19th and early 20th century. okay. how back do we go marching? because if we're going to all fork out for reparations. shouldn't people are descendants of the ottoman empire .7 also fork of the ottoman empire? also fork out for me. what about? of course people in africa who were responsible the slave trade as why is it us? well i have no

doubt that the responsibility for this is wider than us. the simple matter is i'm british and i want to take more responsibility for my share of what would you pay .7 sorry, what what would you pay? sorry, what would you pay .7 mm. well, would you pay? mm. well, obviously i. i would pay a significant amount. i mean i would be prepared to pay a chunk of my, to people in the canbbean of my, to people in the caribbean and these that are, that are still struggling. yes, i would much better . that are still struggling. yes, i would much better. i don't know if just i'm not going to throw out my taxes because i think there are so many things that are so important. i would prepared to pay for this. i would want to you just donate money and would you give it would you give discount to would you give a discount to black people? well think black british people? well think this is a debate we have to have, but i think what you're saying is inappropriate. and i think the british economy as a whole of british society as a whole of british society as a whole has gained from any of us living now today in britain, black or white, whoever we are,

we are living in a society that has benefited huge from the wealth generated the slave trade. and i think we have a more responsibility to engage canbbean more responsibility to engage caribbean states to try to do about that. i'm not saying it's the problem facing the caribbean, but think our heritage is that in the mix and i would be prepared to start engaging with that moral question . yes, i would. and it question. yes, i would. and it might cost me. yes it would. okay. i'm just going ask marty. this is something you clearly feel very about. why on earth, even not any earlier. sorry well, i think like many people, i've been grossly ignorant. i the many people i've been locked into know that the pressures of the day, issues of the moment, and it literally is only in the last four or five years that i have at this myself have looked at this myself seriously realise until seriously and realise that until 2050, we paying off slave owners , but we wouldn't pay a penny to the descendants of slaves. so yeah, put my hands up. yeah, i put my hands up. i should have done something a long but i think long time ago, but i think better than never my feeling better than never is my feeling on this dr. dre. do you on this dr. dre. how do you respond to that claim? we

respond to that claim? that we have benefited is have all benefited massively? is this society as a result of the trade and therefore now trade and therefore we now people we have all benefited globally , not just as british globally, not just as british people but as indian people like me . we have benefited all over me. we have benefited all over the world from slavery , over the the world from slavery, over the world. the transatlantic slave trade was relatively small part of slavery all over the world there were huge slave markets all over africa, the middle east, some of the biggest beneficiaries , slave ownership beneficiaries, slave ownership on niger , european millionaires on niger, european millionaires now , i think unless there is now, i think unless there is some kind of global strategy of compensation, it makes no sense what britain , which took the what britain, which took the lead in the abolition which incurred huge costs 2% of national income , half the naval national income, half the naval budget from the 1830 and forties. i think britain has the least need to be paying for this . okay, i'm going to ask about

this now, mostly in the sense of doesit this now, mostly in the sense of does it ease in point now, which is that the reason why the slave trade could probably exist was because there were people, sources it were were sources it were who were prepared. course, to go prepared. of course, to go people and put them into slavery and those became and those people became very rich with respect so rich of it. so with respect so you're going to go around to certain countries like one certain countries like the one nigeria mentioned and nigeria was mentioned there and try an approach a nigerian billionaire and and get the billionaire and try and get the money there's doubt money off him. there's no doubt about and as the previous guest has just said, that the web of slavery spreads far and wide. and i accept that. i understand the campaign, including, by the way, just just to say, including are we also going to go over to several countries who did several muslim countries who did enslave white as well? because if we then it's just a game of back and forth. and you could argue there's absolutely no point anyone involved in it. martin i understand the point you're all saying is you're making. all i'm saying is that think the damage that was that i think the damage that was done to caribbean is still done to the caribbean is still lived damage today. i the lived damage today. i think the problem the caribbean is very problem of the caribbean is very much problem today. i

much lived problem today. and i think we as a nation played a part in that. and i can call that responsibility . other that responsibility. other people's countries, i can only take responsibility mine. take responsibility for mine. and i have a moral and i feel i have a moral responsibility to do something about this. and must make their own positions clear . but i about this. and must make their own positions clear. but i think as british i think, as a british person, i think, i do have a moral position on here. i know it's but i think there are things around that are there are things around that are the products of things that my did ago. i mean, did not that long ago. i mean, you talking about your you know talking about your teenage maybe irish teenage years ago, maybe irish but did they though . but they did did they though. because my ancestors didn't i don't fancy pater petit to be honest you. did your honest with you. did your ancestors directly do anything involved slave trade? involved in the slave trade? martin n0, involved in the slave trade? martin no, they didn't. but i know they spoke tobacco. they used sugar. they worked in the port of bristol in other words, the whole of the british economy benefited hundreds , thousands of benefited hundreds, thousands of people. it wasn't just plantation owners. so the answer is my didn't directly know , but is my didn't directly know, but l, is my didn't directly know, but i, as a british person benefited because we all did. we all do

doctors. i take it you're not inclined to part with any of your cash . i'm not because i your cash. i'm not because i don't see it doing good i don't think the problems of the canbbean think the problems of the caribbean today such as they are have anything to do slavery i think had do with problems of governance of economic opportunity etc. in the canbbean opportunity etc. in the caribbean and i don't think a handout from britain is going to make any difference to that and i don't it addresses the problem of modern day global slavery and the kind of web which guests except you know except across the world i don't see how there is going to be address and also the fact that a lot of people in britain white british people were horribly exploited were not beneficiaries . slavery did not beneficiaries. slavery did not benefit the profits of sugar or tobacco. any of those things worked incredible hours in factories up chimneys , etc. are

factories up chimneys, etc. are those people going to get compensation for capital lost exploitation? where would this end? well it's a fascinating debate, chaps, and i've thoroughly it. thank you very, very much of you. that's these doctors around sun. and that is the story of the british empire and in which it is also a historian and a licenced lay minister for church of england. no doubt your emails will flooding thick and fast on flooding in thick and fast on us. in fact, i can see a few of them now. patrick, have not them now. patrick, i have not noficed them now. patrick, i have not noticed personal benefits noticed any personal benefits from i be from slavery so i won't be paying from slavery so i won't be paying james says paying nothing. bryan james says what . waste more time what nonsense. waste more time and money and no, have a vote on it . so we okay. all right, it. so we go. okay. all right, fair enough. yes. a lot of fair enough. yes. not a lot of positivity in for idea positivity in the for the idea of paying as reparations to countries for the slave trade. but keep your views coming in gbviews@gbnews.uk. you'll be returned to that a little bit later in the show now home later on in the show now home secretary. so the president is under an email written under fire for an email written in always supporters in in her to always supporters in which she attacks the left wing establishment of lawyer activists and civil. the comments prompted an response from civil servants, although

street said brendan did not see sign off or sanction the email that was sent a conservative campaign headquarters hq basically this email. so while she defending remit or walking out of or in light of the comment from sonia brafman, did she have idea about it whatsoever? well, i mean, how is let's go. commentator joe phillips. joe thank you very much. i will assign game appears to be going on here but regard lets an email was sent out it did to essentially say did appear to essentially say left biased woke civil left wing gang biased woke civil servants establishment . what do servants establishment. what do you make of that the civil service is biased . no, the civil service is biased. no, the civil service is biased. no, the civil service is biased. no, the civil service is impartial. service is biased. no, the civil service is impartial . part of service is impartial. part of the ministerial code is to uphold the impartiality of civil servants . i uphold the impartiality of civil servants. i mean, uphold the impartiality of civil servants . i mean, at the uphold the impartiality of civil servants. i mean, at the moment we've got bullying claims against the justice secretary, deputy prime minister dominic raab, patrick priti patel. so number of them, his predecessor as home secretary was also the subject of bullying which when bofis

subject of bullying which when boris as prime minister refused to accept findings of that inquiry, saw his head of ethics from the civil service alex allan resign . the senior cabinet allan resign. the senior cabinet permanent secretary the home office philip rutland resigned so the home office, as we know, is a massive, massive you know , is a massive, massive you know, if you like, it is probably too big and should be divided up into different parts . deal with into different parts. deal with the many, many different things . successive home secretaries said it's not fit for purpose and i think this is this is sloppiness, patrick. you know , sloppiness, patrick. you know, why didn't she know .7 this is a why didn't she know? this is a letter that went to conserve supporters. it would have been better from the chairman or the deputy chairman of the conservative party . it was just conservative party. it was just don't on this. just don't trust on it. joe, i want joe a couple of couple of points on this. so if successive home secretaries , if successive home secretaries, indeed politicians in general have come out and said that the

civil service incredibly biased against , that might paint against them, that might paint a certain picture . other for certain picture. other one for me is about the me on this is about the impartiality. no, i, as i'm sure we all do, would hope that the civil service is full of people , are completely and utterly impartial . , are completely and utterly impartial. the time, we impartial. at the same time, we are human beings and are all human beings and impartiality is a very difficult , age as all , especially in the age as all know again of unconscious bias. and can we really say any kind of certainty whatsoever that civil service is actually impartial .7 civil service is actually impartial? yes, i believe we can. i mean, i think there is a difference between the frustration that politicians of all political hues find the slowness of moving with plans that they want to implement bureaucracy, you know , some bureaucracy, you know, some people who are watching and listening will be old enough to remember that excellent series. yes, minister that margaret thatcher apparently thought was a . so, know , is a document. so, you know, is obviously going to be a friction between the who want things done yesterday and civil servants whose it is to examine stuff to

do a risk feasibility studies and sometimes say this won't work or sometimes say this is crazy or it's too expensive or we could do it another way. so i think are genuine frustrations, but i don't think it is right for the home secretary who has got a massive department to have had her name put to an email, a letter to conservative supporters . and i think it just supporters. and i think it just shows that general disregard for the way of proper behaviour , the way of proper behaviour, government and the separation actually government and the political party when do look at the fact that the civil service has in various different courses i'm just going to read some of them. one of them ironically is called give me, which i think we can all relate. find your mojo. all right. they do have courses on things like and micro behaviours , so those things are behaviours, so those things are deemed to quite well. they deemed to be quite well. they also do appears to have various different courses when it comes

to community trans to lgbt community and the trans stuff wearing rainbow stuff and wearing rainbow coloured lanyards and. you can maybe see people would maybe see why some people would look and go, well, the look at that and go, well, the civil as a massive institution clearly weak. and also clearly is quite weak. and also the grounds of impartiality have been blurred. accusations been blurred. the accusations are they maybe have been blurred in light of sue gray deciding to jump in light of sue gray deciding to jump from the civil service jump ship from the civil service role to chief of staff of role there to chief of staff of the labour party if indeed does come off well, yes. and the other civil servant whose name is in the frame at the moment and is expected to probably go in a not very distant future is simon case, who see cabinet secretary and to is at the centre of the whatsapp messages between matt hancock the former health secretary and various members of staff , then members of staff, then government and civil servants . government and civil servants. he was also had to himself if you remember from the inquiry into partygate because he was actually at one of the parties which why sue gray was appointed . so i mean of course there are going be people over whom there

is a certain cloud and there are question but don't forget the civil service includes a lot of junior staff and many of those. if you go back to party gaming, if you go back to party gaming, i we don't want to go round that horse again. but you know, a lot of the junior staff were fined and have been right there is bullying and the course is that you mentioned patrick, lots of do that i don't think you can say that makes it about the letter shouldn't have gone out and suella braverman his name and suella braverman his name and next time all right thank you very much jo jo philip. so is a political commentator reacting to some accusations that the civil service is rather woke. anyway, gary lineker says he's going to present match of the on saturday, but should he's going to present match of theeven on saturday, but should he's going to present match of theeven be saturday, but should he's going to present match of theeven be inturday, but should he's going to present match of theeven be in arday, but should he's going to present match of theeven be in a job. but should he's going to present match of theeven be in a job. we'velould he's going to present match of theeven be in a job. we've gotd he even be in a job. we've got all of the fallout from his explosive tweets about the government's migration policy. i'm to the woman i'm going to speak to the woman who vile on social who he called vile on social media. there's a clue . you've media. there's a clue. you've met him before and all really friends with the french. that's you see, i was meeting with

emmanuel macron tomorrow. this is gb news patrick christys .

good afternoon . wonderful good afternoon. wonderful people. is patrick christys here with all the way through until 6 pm? here's what's coming up p.m? here's what's coming up this hour. gary lineker. yes he looks set to keep his job if the noises on his twitter account or anything to go. but we will be looking at whether or not showed in light of his comments about, the tories illegal immigration bill. in other news, same, same. different. the different. really? oh, the french rishi sunak french are or foe rishi sunak got a meeting with emmanuel macron . emmanuel appears macron. emmanuel macron appears to some rather loud noises to make some rather loud noises about we think we're going to break law if try to control break the law if try to control our own borders . who would our own borders. who would have thought other news, thought it? but in other news, one's bizarre. actually, one's a bit bizarre. actually, it's racist because . apparently it's racist because. apparently it's racist because. apparently it is. now, this is the film i'm talking about partly contributes towards inciting far right

extremism. i'll give you a michael caine isn't happy as a man do not want to wind up all of that coming way i'm much more kiwi so i was locked . in yes kiwi so i was locked. in yes keep your emails coming in. vaiews@gbnews.uk gary lineker is set to keep his job. yeah. this hour we're going to be having that big zulu debate, which is a phrase i never thought i'd say. do you think zulu can incite far right extremism gb views is a gbnews.uk. but right now, if you had with rory . good had lunch with rory. good afternoon. it's 4:01. i'm rory in the gb newsroom. gary lineker has been of diminishing the of the holocaust with the home secretary saying she find his comments offensive . earlier this comments offensive. earlier this week the bbc presenter compared the language by the government as it introduced its new

immigration policy to that used by germany in the 1930s. today he described the fallout his comments as ridicule out of proportion and confirmed he will still be presenting much of the day saturday. the culture secretary . lucy frazer says it secretary. lucy frazer says it is important that the bbc maintains impartial if it is to retain the trust of licence fee payers . as somebody grandmother payers. as somebody grandmother escaped germany in the 1930s, i think it's really disappointing and inappropriate to compare government policy on immigration events , on immigration to events events, on immigration to events in germany in the 1930s. it's for the bbc to maintain impartiality if. it is to retain the trust of the public who pay the trust of the public who pay the licence fee . mr. lineker the licence fee. mr. lineker spoke to reporters outside his home morning and said he does not fear suspension by the bbc .

not fear suspension by the bbc. do you fear getting suspended .7 do you fear getting suspended? no. yes. think about the tweet, gary. so i decided to tweet to no. do you stand by what you said or do you stand by what you said or do you stand by what you said in your tweet .7 of course , said in your tweet? of course, the number of people in england waiting start a routine hospital has risen slightly level with the previous record . nhs england the previous record. nhs england says around 7.2 million people were waiting to start treatment at the end of january. but the number waiting longer than 18 months and the same period come down. a survey today by the royal college of nursing shows a significant decline in the quality of patient care as well as the wellbeing nurses and midwives across england . amber midwives across england. amber weather for snow and ice are in place for parts of the uk meaning. there is a potential

risk to life. blizzard conditions continue to spread across the with the met office warning that power cuts are likely well as travel delays and cancelled sessions. the coldest temperature march in more than a decade was recorded in the highlands overnight, dropping to a low of minus degrees . this a low of minus degrees. this operation nuclear power plant the largest in europe has been reconnect to ukraine's energy grid after power was lost and missile strikes. the plant was running on emergency diesel generators for sixth time to prevent potentially catastrophic meltdown . ukraine's military meltdown. ukraine's military says fired 81 missiles, including six hypersonic missiles on cities across the country . at least nine people country. at least nine people were killed in. the strikes bofis were killed in. the strikes boris johnson reported live warned dominic raab private about his conduct when he was prime. it is understood the

extra party leader has given evidence to the inquiry into allegations of bullying against mr. an independent lawyer looking into complaints made by senior civil servants . the daily senior civil servants. the daily telegraph reports it is highly unusual for a prime minister to be in a downing street investing session . supermarkets have session. supermarkets have started limits on customers buying certain fresh produce following widespread supply shortages . asda has removed the shortages. asda has removed the copper and some fruit and vegetables , saying overall vegetables, saying overall availability hasn't and should be back to normal a couple of weeks. tesco, aldi, lidl , weeks. tesco, aldi, lidl, morrisons also limited the purchase of some items. retailers shortages down to bad and transport problems . north and transport problems. north africa and europe . 25 year old africa and europe. 25 year old singer maire muller will represent the uk at this year's eurovision song contest . she

eurovision song contest. she will perform at the event liverpool with track and i wrote a song . the contest is being a song. the contest is being held in london instead. song . held in london instead. song. the contest is being in the liverpool arena on 13th of may on behalf of last year's ukraine. ms. muller described it as a and this is gb news will bnng as a and this is gb news will bring you more news as it happens. now it's back to . patrick all right. let's get on with so we start with the latest. gary lineker after he compared the government's migration policy to , germany. he told reporters that he stands by his comment and, claims that he will present much of the day the well. lineker has been criticised by a series of government ministers since tuesday

since using tweets on tuesday when he said the language used by the home secretary, suella braverman thank by braverman was like, thank by germany in the 30 days. here's what happened when lineker spoke to a group of reporters outside his home this morning. do you fear getting suspended .7 no, you fear getting suspended? no, you don't anything about the tweet, gary .7 sending the tweet to? no. gary? sending the tweet to? no. do you stand by what you said or do you stand by what you said in your tweet .7 of course . well, your tweet? of course. well, he's obviously defiant about the thing, isn't he? joining me now is our political reporter olivia. olivia, what is .7 the olivia. olivia, what is? the latest noises coming out of the bbc when it comes to gary lineker incendiary tweet. well, the noises seem be the latest noises seem to be that they consider the matter resolved , although there are resolved, although there are definitely quite a few conservative mps who plan to fight this in some way, as is the language that i'm getting out of. after some in parliament, essentially the bbc has decided it's although still

hesitate to say this too forcefully because there are contradictory reports . it seems contradictory reports. it seems as though the bbc has decided that because gary lineker is a freelancer because he's just a contractor isn't technically employed by the bbc . he contractor isn't technically employed by the bbc. he is not subject to the same impartiality as its reporters for example. obviously that is a bit of a tncky obviously that is a bit of a tricky position to sustain because although gary lineker not be technically employed by the he's seen by many as sort of synonymous with the bbc almost a face of the bbc. so is it really possible to have your highest paid star out and make these hugely , hugely inflammatory hugely, hugely inflammatory comments about government policy . and to say that, well, it doesn't matter , he actually doesn't matter, he actually isn't really to do with the bbc sort of washing their hands of him. will that be sustainable and as we can see gary lineker is doubling down on his comments and according to the daily mail he's done a very interesting little round up this the 10th time that he's comments like

this where he's very on the nose sort of insulting government policy and will he just keep doing that? and is that really sustainable? is it really sustainable? is it really sustainable .7 that's going to be sustainable? that's going to be the big question going forward. it. thank you it. look, olivier, thank you very, always to very, very much. always great to have inputs at the top of have your inputs at the top of the hour. olivia, there are political reports in less than five gary lineker five months since gary lineker was breached the was found to have breached the bbc impartiality rules over a tweet the conservative. tweet about the conservative. and that wasn't the first time they'd been doing something he posted on back in 2021. he was heavily for a tweet about gb news presenter nana quit. now lineker wrote, finally to imagine how anyone could show such an extraordinary lack of empathy for our fellow human beings . vile. well, i'm beings. vile. well, i'm delighted . say that nana joins delighted. say that nana joins me now and having no nana a while, i can confirm that there definitely not vile, but none. what you make of all the latest goings on. well, i find it astonishing that the bbc would

attempt to say that because he's attempt to say that because he's a so—called . that's that's not a so—called. that's that's not detaching themselves from his comments because i was a so—called type freelancer sort of thing. but then obviously i was onto the ir35 because i decided that because i had set shifts or sanctions couldn't i wasn't staff . but i was in wasn't staff. but i was in a similar position to gary in terms my contract obviously not a similar status. and when i went on the programme made comments, the ones, the one that he commented about when i went on shows made comments when on shows and made comments when i working for the bbc, not i was working for the bbc, not the previous ones when i was with the gb news. but i was told with the gb news. but i was told with no terms comments i made, i won't accept go. and the second time i made a comment that the bbc didn't , like they took away bbc didn't, like they took away two of my programmes. they told me somebody like me with those comments do not suit the kind of programmes i presenting at programmes i was presenting at the you know, took it. the time. so, you know, took it. i that had gone i accepted that i had gone beyond i was meant to be beyond what i was meant to be saying were not happy

saying and they were not happy with comments, despite the with my comments, despite the fact was a member of fact that i too was a member of staff . yes, to me it sounds like staff. yes, to me it sounds like there was one rule for him and a totally different rule for others. and it is ridiculous . others. and it is ridiculous. and then when he actually felt he should be insulting me. i don't care what he calls me. gary can call me whatever he likes, but when he's working for the bbc, i know that if i had done that and called somebody vile. my social media or my other colleagues who many whom have been held up for saying something or writing something on social media and been told to retract what they i mean, retract what they said. i mean, one i know very clearly , one case i know very clearly, one case i know very clearly, one person made a comment on one of gary's tweets and within moments, bosses of that bbc channel had called up that person who was not an employee, a freelancer , and told them to a freelancer, and told them to take it down. take that comment on gary's comment down. yeah and i'm looking at something here that you alluded to that which is the hmrc does , in their view, is the hmrc does, in their view, seek gary lineker as an employee

of bbc and not a freelancer of course, this is clearly the argument he's having with them that he disputes all of as but in that sense they are saying that he's an employee and therefore it would if he's found to by hmrc mean wouldn't that make him an employee and therefore he will be subject to their impartiality rules. it seems a bit odd to. not well, i'd like to see him. get out of that one. i just think got issue with sort of untouchability some sort of technical kind of thing thatis sort of technical kind of thing that is allowed to say thing because who would not we would not be able to get away with. i that when i was there i was not allowed to make political comment that is why i left the bbc . as i said i don't care gary bbc. as i said i don't care gary can call me names he likes but once he's working there he is clearly bbc member. he wants the bbc is one of that. he's the paid presenter. he is prominently the bbc . at the time prominently the bbc. at the time he called me vile. you had bbc sport on his twitter handle on his twitter profile and how much

more. do you need to have to that you are part of the bbc? they cannot . i don't think they they cannot. i don't think they can walk away from it. i think if they really want to sustain confidence of the public that they have level of impartiality , then need to uphold their , then they need to uphold their own guidelines. when people , own guidelines. when people, gary, step outside them , they gary, step outside them, they need to be brought down. i think time that he was sacked, i mean , it would appear pick , he can it would appear pick and choose his morals to an extent. no, no. because he didn't seem to mind getting paid. reported £1.6 million to help sports watch qatar, which is a pretty vile, murderous regime, not exactly known for its human rights or women's rights or gay rights. anything he did, of course in recent times now make allusions to 19505 times now make allusions to 1950s germany when it comes to this country's treatment of illegal migration . he may well illegal migration. he may well have presented tv shows in qatar from a built by slaves where slaves may be died . so it would

slaves may be died. so it would indicate quite strongly that it does appear to pick and choose what he gets on his high horse about. nada. well, it's a total hypocrite. he's an absolute hypocrite. he's an absolute hypocrite if he's serious about things like qatar, then why on earth would you go if feel that strongly about it? but of course, he seems to be able to take the money i know at one point he took on a couple of so that sort of migrants or asylum seekers. i'm not the seekers. oh i'm not sure the terminology is all terminology these days is all crossing into one but took crossing into one but he took on some so he seems some refugees so that he seems to think means that he holds the moral ground. but you know, to think means that he holds the mocan ground. but you know, to think means that he holds the mocan do ground. but you know, to think means that he holds the mocan do whatind. but you know, to think means that he holds the mocan do what he but you know, to think means that he holds the mocan do what he likes/ou know, to think means that he holds the mocan do what he likes inr know, to think means that he holds the mocan do what he likes in his ow, he can do what he likes in his spare time. but when he's working for the bbc and they comments that, others would comments like that, others would not get with it. and that not get away with it. and that is beef it. he shouldn't is my beef with it. he shouldn't be allowed to be making political comment on things that affect as as a people were affect us as as a people were paying affect us as as a people were paying for the licence and all our oil i'm forced to pay for this thing is that those who work there first of all are not paid ludicrous sums and secondly that they abide by a level of impartiality. so they don't

affect the politics of the day, because that's not that's not why they're there they're there to give us an impartial impartial represent of this country. and give us things like sport . what on earth is he sport. what on earth is he doing? even talking about politics? i mean, was there any kind of backlash? i know you said that you particularly bothered about him , you names or bothered about him, you names or whatever. i get up . was there whatever. i get up. was there much of a backlash? i mean, did it kind of hate it create some kind of hate towards you all? well, yes, it did it did, actually. and so obviously, after that i got death threats. i was called all the names under the sun . you the names under the sun. you know, people were just sending random messages on all my social media to let me know how evil i am for daring to support priti patel, turnback and he would have known that was happening because all of the retweets, all of the comments were literally littered with would have had his hashtag on. i wrote to the bbc , hashtag on. i wrote to the bbc, i complained to the bbc, i to philip barney, his boss. and today they they wrote back basic

telling me that, oh, well, it was his own private comments. and he commented about what you said on october the 15th and blah, blah, blah was had very clearly in the letter, explained that there was no way that gary could not have realised that i was going . what was happening in was going. what was happening in the backlash he was creating but he bothered all he had to he wasn't bothered all he had to do he was that bothered was do if he was that bothered was take tweet . but did he. take down the tweet. but did he. oh no . and even to this day, i oh no. and even to this day, i think the tweet still there. think the tweet is still there. but thankfully, channel five took the footage took down any the footage because had because obviously they had a duty gary didn't duty of care. but gary didn't care . and it's just like now care. and it's just like now he's been caught out saying things that he shouldn't be saying smirking saying and literally smirking into he doesn't give into his car. he doesn't give two he doesn't care . i two hoots. he doesn't care. i mean, he's so empathetic and he's so caring . why would you do he's so caring. why would you do that? you would have known what his tweet would have done. he was he's to me that he's was he's appears to me that he's enjoying it. and you've led me to on my question now, which is, do you think he's a nice guy? no, i don't. i think what he called me, i would say very same to him. his behaviour is awful.

and i think he he should apologise. he should apologise if his comments were to the communities that he offended by it. but there's sign of that at the very least the bbc should make sure that he apologises if he has caused. but i know they're all quietly getting behind him. i no idea why that would be. person happy with this government either and they would also be perhaps more favourable government that would like to see bbc carry on being fully funded by us. that licence just one fine when we wonder if that's all it seems to me. i think it potentially is slightly problem when it comes to what some people might call quite wealthy loves right. which is that are bit that maybe they are bit sheltered from gary lineker sheltered from it. gary lineker has taken a couple of people into his home. you think? he into his home. do you think? he deserves element respect deserves an element of respect for course, is part of for that, of course, is part of him. his him. maybe putting his money where mouth however the where his mouth is. however the argument be that some argument would be that some of those been those people have been incredibly and well incredibly well vetted and well within limited of time, within for a limited of time, radically for radically different. for example, people of

example, from the people of linton non—news or a small linton on non—news or a small village where they were set to get hundreds and hundreds of people whom you would people many of whom you would imagine been imagine had not been particularly vetted, particularly thoroughly vetted, dropped into that community. so do gets do you think he quite gets how a lot public feel? you lot of the public feel? and, you know, frankly , up to the genuine know, frankly, up to the genuine of this issue for normal people he hasn't got a clue it's a very was all very well if you've got a big old mansion where you can just give off one wing to people who you've never met before they've been vetted heavily and you probably even to even speak to them. you've got other to them. and you've got other people cater for them. a people to cater for them. it's a totally different of fish totally different kettle of fish when the hotel is on by a load of . people who are from of. people who are from a completely different place , completely different place, migrants. there's nothing wrong with that as people are people . with that as people are people. but at the end of the day that's different. if they come and take over your that next to your house and you have to deal with the aftermath and they're there for not months, years. for not months, but years. what i'd to is perhaps gary i'd like to is perhaps gary lineker should some time firstly on the coastline have a look at

exactly can understand what's going on and secondly he'd like to spend some time next to some of these migrant hotels and some of these migrant hotels and some of these migrant hotels and some of these places where these hotels spend some time hotels are and spend some time with locals and see exactly with the locals and see exactly what they're through what they're going through before mouth. maybe before he opens his mouth. maybe perhaps live in perhaps he could maybe live in one those communities for one of those communities for a while, then understand but while, then he's understand but hey, say what he likes and hey, he say what he likes and then straight back to mention then go straight back to mention and forget about it. look, now, look. you very very much. look. thank you very very much. it's that gb news and it's not okay that gb news and it's, i'd say, a fun given what's going on in the what's been going on in the inbox you've talking inbox last. you've been talking now. stuff. all right. now. lovely stuff. all right. you take cows, he said. yes is what gary lineker was saying, wasn't standing wasn't he? it was standing up for marginalised have for the marginalised people have a are going bring a voice. we are going to bring was already way about was already seen any way about albanian tick tock human traffickers video for traffickers bringing video for people to pay of thousand pounds a p0p people to pay of thousand pounds a pop to get in a speedboat and take a 45 minute journey across the channel islands of britain. some would say, well, maybe, perhaps them are perhaps not all of them are indeed actually particularly poor and, vulnerable. but look,

gbviews@gbnews.uk is that in box? i'm going to go into that now. now a lots of banana love. you don't like lineker from alison i'll see you slightly stronger terms that i'm going to wish you had a couple of bits and bobs that i've got coming your way surely are going to be talking about whether or not the french our friends or our french are our friends or our foe. there was nice noises coming out emmanuel towards coming out from emmanuel towards rishi appeared to be rishi sunak who appeared to be thinking said thinking that the adults said got the room in the got back into the room in the wake boris johnson's wake of boris johnson's premiership in light premiership. but now, in light of immigration bill, of the illegal immigration bill, it that the french it does appear that the french have changed their tune and that the has changed as the eu has changed its tune as well. what we're well. think that what we're doing is illegal, which is why rishi sunak asked rishi sunak is being asked non—stop about whether or non—stop now about whether or not try up not he's going to try stand up to some of the rules and regs. it might be coming our way from foreign judges in foreign courses to whether not we can courses to whether or not we can deport people, whether or not have right to that. but have the right to do that. but surely to be having big surely going to be having a big discussion about film zulu. discussion about the film zulu. that's whether or that's right. whether or not it inches that's right. whether or not it incites extremism. know. i incites extremism. i know. i can't either, but can't believe this either, but michael hit back at

michael caine has hit back at claims that it encourages far right sympathy . yes, that's right sympathy. yes, that's right. so zulu could be the latest film to be banned and. even dogs arriving at crufts even the dogs arriving at crufts this morning very, very cold weather warning in place in large parts of the country in patrick christys. this is gb news news

welcome back, everybody. now in a few minutes, i will ask if the french are really our friends ahead of a meeting tomorrow between rishi sunak and immanuel macron, they're expecting to talk plans to stop illegal immigration this country. but the news today is the uk the big news today is the uk government to softening government seems to be softening stance legal immigration and stance on legal immigration and they're hoping that overseas workers could be used to plug the labour shortage the uk. the labour shortage in the uk. in british construction in the british construction industry could be the first to benefit more lax benefit from more lax recruitment processes here the studio is our economics and business editor halligan business editor liam halligan with on the money . he liam,

with on the money. he liam, we've got some facts and figures for us. this is the flip side of this ongoing immigration debate about small boats . patrick about small boats. patrick obviously has dominated the obviously this has dominated the headlines. know, only gary headlines. you know, only gary lineker is getting coverage online. yeah. so on tuesday, of course, the government introduced this controversial illegal immigration legislation to try and stop the small boats. and the big question is , will we and the big question is, will we have to leave the european convention human rights? convention on human rights? we'll because the we'll come to that. because the flipside the same time . flipside is the same time. business leaders are saying to the government but need more the government, but we need more people. there's of labour, we people. there's a of labour, we need people to fill certain jobs . and if you look at some numbers that i've had for you, we still 1.2 million job vacancies here in the uk . the vacancies here in the uk. the workforce overall is about 30 million. so that's a pretty chunky hole that needs to be plugged and there's a visa scheme that already allows for special visas, special entry for care workers that civil engineers, graphic designers ,

engineers, graphic designers, these are particular areas , these are particular areas, shortages of skills , people that shortages of skills, people that are willing and want to do this work. the question is government is now considering they might extend that special visas game to include construction , to include construction, hospitality workers and retail workers. and this is on top of the traditional agricultural seasonal schemes that we have when we get in the crops in the spnng when we get in the crops in the spring and, the summer and the government source has told me, patrick, that decision has been made on whether going to extend this legal visa scheme to easily legal migration to plug holes in the labour market. no decision made, but this is now under active consideration. a real contrast with all the headlines that we've had about the illegal bill echr and the sort of immigration culture wars. yeah exactly. and just on the reminded that you sat down with suella braverman home secretary, you probably had more one on one time with her than frankly much any journalist in the country. i

think you talk to her about think you did talk to her about echr, is going to be echr, which is going to be dominating the discussion is that sunak will have with that rishi sunak will have with emmanuel tomorrow on emmanuel macron tomorrow on whether we are whether or not we are essentially backing of order essentially backing out of order to stop the boats. it's to try to stop the boats. it's worth just filling a little worth just filling in a little bit history here. i very bit of history here. i was very taken with interview taken with your interview earlier with pickles, the earlier with eric pickles, the holocaust, the light of holocaust, in the light of gary lineker about 1930s lineker comments about the 1930s when aftermath the second when the aftermath the second world in response , world war in direct response, the the human that the atrocities, the human that was the second world war, british lawyers and mps got together and they wrote something . the european something. the european convention rights convention on human rights totally remade legal landscape of the european continent. and of the european continent. and of course there's , a court in of course there's, a court in strasbourg, the european of human rights. the uk isn't , just human rights. the uk isn't, just a signatory to the echr convention. it the original signatory and, basically the author of that the thing is though under the echr you can't somebody if they refer themselves as dispensable they have to stay where they are while you undergo that what can be a very lengthy legal process

about their human rights whether they're an asylum seeker whether they're an asylum seeker whether they're an asylum seeker whether they're an illegal economic migrant and so and this is the problem because during that they can disappear into the workforce we don't have identity cards in this country you know we're pretty low key on keeping cyber temps on people though that's changing of and so it's sort of raven is trying to do and this is somebody with a law degree from you know somebody taking the new york bar exams as she's very lawyer they're trying very canny lawyer they're trying to put through legislation which in the words of whitehall, civil servants test limits of servants does test the limits of what's legally possible . that what's legally possible. that allows the british government to process those and echr claims is offshore here in the uk and offshore here in the uk and offshore may mean rwanda. another country. so you don't have the cost of them being looked after here in the uk and also so they can't disappear into the uk workforce and thus into the uk workforce and thus

into illegally and become permanently here illegally. yeah, the idea is you if you process their claims elsewhere, that will be a deterrent . the that will be a deterrent. the people smugglers and the people getting in small boats and risking their lives. it's a very difficult legal circle to square, but that is suella braverman is trying to do. they are trying to do it. and yes, we go. look, liam, thank you very, very much. liam halligan there. i want to put economics and business ed all of that business ed with all of that through of and through some of the legal and then illegal of things as then illegal side of things as well. right now, you sunak well. right now, rich you sunak now preparing meet you, now is preparing to meet you, emmanuel macron. tomorrow emmanuel macron. that's tomorrow . first uk france . that's the first uk france summit the prime summit for five years. the prime minister , the french president minister, the french president will paris . will hold talks in paris. they're expected to discuss these to stop small these efforts to stop the small boats. that outcomes of course as president dismissed as well. the president dismissed warnings the warnings from brussels that the government's migration government's illegal migration violates law . so violates international law. so i'm going to be looking at whether or basically we are whether or not basically we are up for fight when comes to up for fight when it comes to the cause the european the eu cause the european courts, i should say i'm or not, there will be any more detail on that later on as well. i'm going

to be asking as well whether or not zulu with michael not the film zulu with michael caine contributing towards far right well, apparently right because well, apparently it says michael caine is not happy about i will with you happy about i will be with you very , very shortly on that stay very, very shortly on that stay tuned updates . good afternoon. tuned updates. good afternoon. it's fourth day. i'm rory smith. gary lineker has been accused of diminishing the tragedy of the holocaust with the home secretary saying that she his comments offensive . earlier this comments offensive. earlier this week the bbc presenter compared the government's language as it introduced its immigration policy to used by germany the 19305. policy to used by germany the 1930s. today he described the fallout , his 1930s. today he described the fallout, his comments as ridiculous out of proportion and confirmed he will still be presenting much of the day on saturday. the bbc is under pressure to sack the former

england striker. culture lucy fraser told the commons the broadcaster must maintain impartiality as somebody whose grandmother escaped germany in the 1930s. i think it's really disappointing and inappropriate to compare government policy on immigration to an to events in germany the 1930s. it's important for the bbc to maintain impartiality if it to retain the trust of the public who pay the licence fee fee . the who pay the licence fee fee. the number of people in england waiting to start rooting hospital treatment has risen level with the previous record high and hits, england says around 7.2 million people were waiting to start treatment at the end of january. the met is warning that three warnings have been issued, meaning there is a potential risk to life. this is

blizzard. britain it's supposed to continue over the next couple of days days . to continue over the next couple of days days. boris johnson reportedly warned raab privately about his conduct when he was prime minister it is understood the tory leader has given evidence to the inquiry into allegations of bullying. an independent lawyer is looking into complaints made by civil servants , the daily telegraph servants, the daily telegraph reports . it is highly unusual. servants, the daily telegraph reports . it is highly unusual . a reports. it is highly unusual. a former prime minister to be involved in a downing street investigation . superman rockets investigation. superman rockets have started dropping on customers buying certain fresh produce following widespread supply shortage as ulster has removed cap on some fruit and vegetables , saying overall vegetables, saying overall availability has improved and should be back to normal within

a couple of weeks. tesco, aldi , a couple of weeks. tesco, aldi, lidl and morrisons also limited the purchase of some items . the purchase of some items. that's all from the gb newsroom. now it's back to . now it's back to. patrick okay. all right. welcome back, everybody . going to delve into everybody. going to delve into the terrifying world of my now gbviews@gbnews.uk uk loads. you've been getting touch mainly as you show a bit of support for nan. our very own nanny hired gb news presenter who was speaking about what her views are anyway about what her views are anyway about gary lineker and his comments of course, about the conservative illegal migration bill. what she's saying is essentially that he's in the past directly, some quite considerable hate towards her and that he has demonstrated some considerable bias as well . some considerable bias as well. irene says the shootings none are is far more intelligent than

gary lineker and that he should shut after patrick. shut up after name patrick. i like to say i don't watch the bbc anymore for listening to you and nina. it was nail on the head and this is from robert in torquay. you getting in touch on that? also as well, of course, lots of you getting in touch about the topic i'm going to be talking about a little bit later on. believe or not, you on. now, believe it or not, you know, film zulu, okay, with know, the film zulu, okay, with michael caine? well, zulu is now supposedly far supposedly anyway inciting far right has right racism. michael caine has come the come out. i can't repeat the word used, but he has come word he used, but he has come out swinging against the idea that the film that he was in has indeed incited. right. racism. but having a discussion but we'll be having a discussion on and or not on that and whether or not actually is racist now it's actually zulu is racist now it's been it encourages far been claimed it encourages far right michael right sympathies but michael caine it is indeed caine is saying it is indeed an absolute tosh having . a absolute load of tosh having. a big that. get your big debate on that. get your views in, views coming in, vaiews@gbnews.uk. whether or not this is just cancel not this is just more cancel culture, whether or not that is a stellar bit of cinematography and all costs. and it should be at all costs. i'm partly because these and this is gb news. hello, it's me

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okay, welcome back. now, the 1964 films zulu is the latest targets of woke activists after the movie was tied to far right extremists and prevents latest report. prevent, of course, is supposed to be that counter terror stuff, isn't it? which makes me wonder , one, to get makes me wonder, one, to get involved in this part of film star michael caine rubbished the that the picture led many to violence and extremism, stating defiantly there are no films. i

wish i hadn't made . so is the wish i hadn't made. so is the film a bit of harmless fun or an outdated racist of times gone by? outdated racist of times gone by.7 with outdated racist of times gone by? with me now is bushra sheikh, former apprentice candidates and campaigner. i'm benjamin nine, research fellow at the boe group because the body thank you very much bushra is it fair enough that zulu is now apparently on prevents radar . well, this is actually really interesting because if we look at prevention as an anti terror organisation, we can't awful the woke because of the same energy if we're going to fight anti islamic extremism we have to take they say in a serious take what they say in a serious manner and. now they're making reference to 1964 zulu and i. i would probably agree. i mean there is a racial undertone and we do know what that film is about. we do know what that film is about . but then this we do know what that film is about. but then this is a question about are we going to of everything you know? so images we can use all week claiming that prevent isn't a counter terrorist organisation . counter terrorist organisation. when do we want to use them or? when do we want to use them or? when we not exist ? probably

when do we not exist? probably worth checking. have you seen the films they live ? i've not the films they live? i've not seen the entire movie . i do know seen the entire movie. i do know what it's about and i've seen bits of it as well. so we know it's about 150 british soldiers . we know it was about the british going into south africa and the kind of racial undertones are present. we do know that . and but you know, at know that. and but you know, at the same time, i'm not also the person to say that we should censor stuff is important to keep like available keep things like available especially film . but we especially within film. but we can and also examine okay , can and also examine okay, benjamin, i'll bring you in now. benjamin, i'll bring you in now. benjamin lock name research fellow at the bell group. a lot of people in my inbox are saying zulu is a dramatic representation, a historic event that happened. yeah that actually happened. yeah a historical event. it's a historical event. it's a historical . so you might make historical. so you might make a case that the backdrop was racist i don't think it was you know, it was a it was a war. there's a war happens. it's very nice that it does happen. i don't think it was by race. it was probably motivated by gaining land and, you know, improve their own lives, which

is wars are motivated is what most wars are motivated by. don't think it racial, but by. i don't think it racial, but it's a film . it's not the actual it's a film. it's not the actual battle. so it's not happening in real life. it's on the screen andifs real life. it's on the screen and it's a fictional you representation of real events to get offended by a film is absolutely ludicrous . do you absolutely ludicrous. do you think that potentially , bushra, think that potentially, bushra, if people inclined to watch zulu a film that was made in 1964 and that leads towards far right extremism . i mean is that extremism. i mean is that actually something do you think thatis actually something do you think that is actually something that happens? i mean, realistically, you think people sit down and watch which i think watch zulu, which i think from memory, which has to be shown almost year around the almost every year around the december that in december time. and then that in itself signs people to go itself and signs people to go out do unspeakable things, out and do unspeakable things, presumably people . i mean, presumably black people. i mean, the honest truth is, look , the honest truth is, look, patrick, we know that any content in the wrong is going to be bad content . we have to be bad content. we have to accept that. that is a practicality of society . you practicality of society. you know, whether somebody's going to sit down and watch zulu and

think, okay, i'm not going to become a far extremist. you know, it's probably very, very rare. again, have. rare. but again, we have. question isn't about woke question this isn't about woke agenda. have prevent agenda. we have prevent organisation saying that this could be inside too far right extremism. so you have to decide are we are we going to accept prevent because i've had lots of people say to me well you know prevent is absolutely right when it comes to islamic extremism so why it not the case that . well, why it not the case that. well, there is there is that point benjamin let you answer to that i mean prevent seem to catch some votes this is prevent problem. yeah i don't think they should be i think they should stick to actual real instances of terrorism and violence and hate that are serious. i don't think any moderate person is sat down watch those live and then go and you know what i'm going to become racist now. i just don't that playing out. i don't see that playing out. i don't see that playing out. i don't happening. i think don't see it happening. i think getting in these getting involved in these really petty like policing petty things like policing what sort what sort of sort of films, what sort of media can you can watch media you can you can watch getting upset about certain

songs we saw this songs like i mean we saw this with tom jones delilah recently they the rugby but they wanted to ban the rugby but why focus on actually dealing with real issues so banning things which don't actually contribute to these problems . contribute to these problems. yeah but that so you know i just want to add that that wasn't also something that prevented the organisation race. so we have to question these 49 million organised asian you know the shawcross report has said that this is not the only movie . are we just going to denounce their findings and say that this is an accurate cause? if that's the case, then you need to use that energy as well. i mean, prevent has every bad prevent has copped every bad dream at times being accused dream for at times being accused of giving money people who of giving money to people who were well in favour of the taliban for example. so i can't help but wonder whether or not maybe are just crow borrowing in the film zulu to try to provide some balance to the far right potentially . yeah. and i think potentially. yeah. and i think possibly its distraction tactic as these sorts of you know outrages distract from the fact prevent haven't done the best

job mean there's a quite a lot of things they haven't prevented you know they've they've got bolder number of occasions and i think talking films is an easy call have them rather than actually that proper job actually doing that proper job so you know frankly i think this whole thing is ridiculous we need to move on from this censorious trend that had censorious trend that we've had the past few years. would you ban film version when sorry, patrick just wanted to add when it comes to far right, it comes to event in the far right, it means that they're not doing their job. means that they're not doing theirjob. but means that they're not doing their job. but when means that they're not doing theirjob. but when it means that they're not doing their job. but when it comes to their job. but when it comes to the mosque, when it comes to places like wait in batley than they are doing their job properly the stand we've got to have the standard and the have the same standard and the same if there is a level same energy. if there is a level of issues could be raised in these movies we have i would i would slightly countenance our butcher with the idea that no one went and blew themselves up in the manchester arena after they watched zulu . did that. no, they watched zulu. did that. no, no no, of course i'm not going to sit and defend anybody . does to sit and defend anybody. does that all? but then in the same

breath can't say that prevent are doing their job when are not doing their job when it's time , they're it's on your time, they're either doing the job or they aren't. we sites that aren't. because we sites that prevent isn't doing the right job when it's our test somehow, you to dismiss you know we're trying to dismiss terrorism. okay well, you know, i'll let you answer that. that is, do you think that there is some bias, is that when some bias, which is that when people see that is going people see that prevent is going after certain aspects of the muslim community, people muslim community, that people he's a great job. but then he's doing a great job. but then it comes film like zulu it comes after a film like zulu and people think wrong and people think no that's wrong . yeah but i like prevent it it needs to go after where there is terror where there is hatred. that's their job. if happens to be facts that that exists be the facts that that exists within islamic community is more so than it does in cinema. also, when you're watching the film zulu, focus on zulu, then they should focus on that. think , they should have that. i think, they should have to give the appearance of going after single community to give the appearance of going after becausee community to give the appearance of going after because it:ommunity to give the appearance of going after because it occurjnity to give the appearance of going after because it occur inty equally because it occur in every community equally. but but would you be for a trigger warning on zulu. do you think approaching a warning honestly ,

approaching a warning honestly, if you're asking my personal opinion, no, i believe that there is some content . like there is some content. like benjamin said in theatre and movie in film, that we should keep is to unpack and examine kind of historical events. and i think that can be good for us. so i do that. i do share so i do same that. i do share this energy with. sometimes i think do , get it wrong, think prevent do, get it wrong, i do you wouldn't. i could do fine. you wouldn't. benjamin i'm assuming that the film zulu will not be coming with a trigger warning if we watched it round at your place. no, absolutely not. think people should be trusted to form opinions based on what they see. and we shouldn't be bringing people cotton wool and people up in cotton wool and hiding wealth from you hiding the wealth from them? you know, these are real events historically to historically and we have to confront to confront now that we have to watch, have form opinions watch, we have to form opinions on the basis of that and telling people, i'm going to give you a trigger. oh, don't this. trigger. oh, don't watch this. it will be will be it might scare will be will be offensive mean, it's offensive to you. i mean, it's pathetic. should be able pathetic. you should be able to confront realities the confront the realities of the world because stuff but world an adult because stuff but we you very much for the we thank you very much for the stellar debate but shashank that former bbc apprentice candidate is and is an anti—racism campaigner and benjamin lock name research

fellow at the group responding to that zulu to the bizarre reality that zulu has piqued the interest of our preventative counter—terror program that we but in other program that we go. but in other news the trial into the murder of nine year old olivia culpo is continuing doubts at manchester court. we've been bringing you regular updates on that shocking case, that case, of course, gnpped case, that case, of course, gripped the nation . thomas gripped the nation. thomas cashman is charged with the murder of olivia, was shot murder of olivia, who was shot inside of her home in liverpool last , inside of her home in liverpool last, august. inside of her home in liverpool last , august. now, inside of her home in liverpool last, august. now, i inside of her home in liverpool last , august. now, i believe we last, august. now, i believe we can . so north west can go now. so north west reports sophie ripa is reports that sophie ripa is outside manchester crown court for us sophie, i believe is there for us as manchester crown court. no, baby. no, it's okay. right. | court. no, baby. no, it's okay. right. i believe i'll just into the inbox and for a moment i know that she is sophie. thank you very much. let's go to well, patrick this afternoon we heard for the first time in this trial from the mother olivia from the mother of olivia corbell was in a pre—recorded video interview taken just a week after the attack in august of last year , cheryl corbell

of last year, cheryl corbell recanted that she and two friends were home having a cup of tea when they heard two loud bangs from the street outside . bangs from the street outside. she went out to investigate when she realised what was taking , she realised what was taking, she realised what was taking, she ran back to the safety of a front door. although was followed by joseph, whom we now know was the intended victim of the gunman . and she tried to the gunman. and she tried to keep door shot, but she was forced to let go when she was shot. forced to let go when she was shot . the wrist, she said that shot. the wrist, she said that the blood was squirting . she the blood was squirting. she also then recalled realising that olivia was behind her. she said the baby her nickname for her daughter was sat on the stairs . at this point . in the stairs. at this point. in the interview, ms. corbell visibly heartbroken as she recounted realising that something was wrong. she said i lifted her top up and the bullet had gone right in the middle of her chest. i knew gone. she recalled. olivia

gasps for breath and telling her that the ambulance would be there soon. she said she was screaming at her. stay with me. after the jury also heard , a after the jury also heard, a pre—recorded video interview with corbell sister chloe . she with corbell sister chloe. she recalled her mom's screaming that olivia had been hit and went on to describe seeing her mother try to stop the bleeding from olivia's . while she made from olivia's. while she made that 999 call. now has concluded for today, but is scheduled to resume tomorrow morning here at manchester crown court . so manchester crown court. so please thank you very much for that update . very sad manchester that update. very sad manchester crown court there . in the case crown court there. in the case of olivia corbell rabbit, go. right. okay well now some breaking news delays to some sections of hs2 to save money will shortly announced by the government has been reported transport secretary mark harper . the government will delay building the birmingham to crewe leg of hs2 by two years. grief it's understood , will primarily

it's understood, will primarily affect the high speed railway birmingham and crewe, and between crewe . manchester. so between crewe. manchester. so that of course the breaking that of course is the breaking for will bring you for you there will bring you more we bad news for more as we it. but bad news for fans of hs2. indeed, there are any prominent british philosopher on. right philosopher moving on. i'm right . was claimed that young . it was claimed that young women would change gender, then say that they are lesbian. so stock is founding a group intends to champion uk women who are same sex attracted now. she resigned from role as a university of sussex professor. significant backlash to her belief that biological sex is fixed and the highly controversial tavistock clinic, which provided a gender identity development service , is closing development service, is closing shortly. i'm now by kate harris, who is the co—founder of the lgb alliance . thank you very, very alliance. thank you very, very much. this is something that i know a lot of people have been talking about for a very long time, which is instead of maybe just taking a bit of time to figure out the people are either gay or lesbian, instead they are changing as changing their physical form as a and that is pretty a young age. and that is pretty bad the kids . yeah, it's

bad for the kids. yeah, it's brilliant that kathleen still and julie bedell have formed a new organised session today called the lesbian project. but she's right. i mean, if you first of all, let's say to all young lesbians out there being a lesbian , fabulous, you can have lesbian, fabulous, you can have a life struggle. is that there's so much confusion now about what is a lesbian and what does it mean to a lesbian? if i was a kidnapped school, i would 100% be saying i think i have been in their own body. i think i'm a boy. i want to trans and we have so kids who come to us one particularly sad case a student who'd been bullied at school from the age of ten because she had short hair. she loved sports. she didn't do girly things. and every single one of her friends and people at school said , you're trans. you're

said, you're trans. you're definitely trans. and she said she she she said to us, she waiting until she has independent life. she's finished university. she's got her own flat that her own income she's waiting to come out to be lesbian then because can bully . lesbian then because can bully. her i'm sorry i mean i was absolutely gripped by what you had to there. and there's so many questions running through my i'm going to just drill my mind. i'm going to just drill down if. it's possible to talk about. oh, you said if you think you were growing up now and you were in now. so at the age of or something along those lines , do something along those lines, do you think that you would have taken steps to transition and whatever that would have meant? so whether or not that was surgery or hormones blockers or whatever it i mean, it's so interesting been reading time to think carnarvon's book about the scandal at the tavistock and unfortunately fit most of the categories of the kids who turn

up for gender identity services. so i'm 1% sure up for gender identity services. so i'm1% sure i up for gender identity services. so i'm 1% sure i would have said i wanted to be a boy . i was very i wanted to be a boy. i was very lonely. i was very vulnerable . i lonely. i was very vulnerable. i dressed in my brother's clothes and in sports was put to when the class was divided , my the class was divided, my teacher was taken , called out teacher was taken, called out girls over boys. and katherine harris over there . so it would harris over there. so it would be inevitable now that a very helpful teacher would take to one side and say you do know, kate, that some children are born in the wrong body. and i have looked at the attention the love, stunning and brave and upset. and let's takes us to the heart of the problem , patrick, heart of the problem, patrick, which is that at the moment children like me are being fed a dangerous lie , we wouldn't say dangerous lie, we wouldn't say children you can fly , don't jump children you can fly, don't jump off that roof . but we do say to off that roof. but we do say to them , you can change sex. and them, you can change sex. and that to me is the cruel lie. and

that to me is the cruel lie. and that leads to situation where kids who are just gender non—conforming end up thinking a solution to their problems would be to change sex. it's dangerous and it should stop really as soon as possible miriam, kate says astrid inquiry into what kids are taught at. it's not just about sex education. it's through schools now , many through schools now, many children are growing up to believe that everyone has a gender identity . well, they gender identity. well, they confuse and i wonder as well, i'm becoming increasingly inquisitive about the idea of this kind of munchausen by proxy situation as well with parents potentially thinking , well, potentially thinking, well, actually, my child is well, living their own intention, seeking fantasies through their own kids. look how special and unique my child is. they've been born into the wrong as a parent going well think going around as well i think that's and i think it's incredibly worrying but that's why we need a full inquiry. we've got the cas inquiry into the scandal at the tavistock and

thatis the scandal at the tavistock and that is being huge . we're that is being huge. we're leading the world. you know, the united kingdom is often called terf island and i'm proud of that because we're the first country in the world to stand and say gender identity theory is nonsense. it's a cult belief, it is not facts. dfis says we should teach facts in school if there are parents who've munchausen by proxy , let's munchausen by proxy, let's challenge them because matters first is child safeguarding . first is child safeguarding. this is a safeguarding issue and i want that be an inquiry into what's going on. schools across all subjects . because at the all subjects. because at the moment i think our education system is positively dangerous for all children . we are told for all children. we are told this whole groups of girls now who say i'm non—binary , i'm who say i'm non—binary, i'm pansexual, i'm gender. yeah, just these children allowed to be whatever they wanted to be. yeah it is, it is a bit bonkers. some of the you know, ticktock,

all youtube explainers that you see now about all the different knee issues. and let me explain this to you and you think actually, good grief. you know, only confusing yourselves a lot of the time. i think, look thank you very going to to you very much. going to have to leave there, ask harris, leave it there, but ask harris, who the co—founder of the lgb who is the co—founder of the lgb alliance. i think saying, well, frankly, of are frankly, a lot of people are actually thinking can actually thinking that we can now bbc gary lineker now should the bbc gary lineker for tweets about for his tweets about government's illegal migration bill. for lively bill. stand by for a lively debate uk debate that should the uk taxpayer be reparations taxpayer be paying reparations for role in the for the country's role in the trade? a labour mp thinks that you, the british taxpayer , you, the british taxpayer, should indeed be paying their tax money to caribbean nations to , say sorry for what happened to, say sorry for what happened dunng to, say sorry for what happened during the slave trade. this is gb news i patrick christys i'll going to .

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take a welcome back, everybody is patrick christys here. it's 5:00 on. this is gb news hayes. well, coming up in the next hour so yes, it's still controversy around gary lineker. it looks as though the bbc might be taking absolute no action whatsoever . absolute no action whatsoever. so much for impartiality. some people say. but in other news as well, talking controversial things all. the french oh, friends , you see that is going friends, you see that is going to go with me. emmanuel macron. the french appear to be saying that what we want to do to stop the small boats crossing the channelis the small boats crossing the channel is illegal. rishi sunak has a fight his hands and has a fight on his hands and yes. in other news well. yes. in other news as well. would you pay reparations for the slave trade? that's what one labour mp wants you to do make sure you get in touch on of that. but yes, i'm going to be having discussion as having a big discussion as to whether british whether or not the british taxpayer should be giving money to caribbean . to the caribbean. gbviews@gbnews.uk uk is, of course, that email loads you've been getting in touch on. gary

lineker no surprise there, but yeah, this hour i want you to ask my answer question even whether or not you would pay money reparations for. the money for reparations for. the slave trade gbviews@gbnews.uk is that email address one more time. now as rory with the headunes. time. now as rory with the headlines . good afternoon. it's headlines. good afternoon. it's 5:01. i'm rory smith in the gb newsroom breaking news in the last half hour. the transport sector says construction of hit ast two between birmingham and crewe will be delayed by two years. mark says that is due to increased costs and significant inflow and re pressure, but labour the delay means the north has to pay the price for government failures . gary government failures. gary lineker has been accused of diminishing the tragedy of the holocaust with the home secretary saying she finds his comments offensive. earlier this

week, the bbc presenter compared the government's language around its new immigration policy to that by germany in the 1930. today he describes the fallout as ridiculously out of proportion . the bbc is under proportion. the bbc is under some pressure to sack the former england striker. but he confirmed today he will be presenting match of the day on saturday. culture secretary lucy fraser told the commons the broadcaster must maintain impartially as somebody whose grandmother escaped germany in the 1930s. i think it's really disappointing and inappropriate to compare government policy on immigration events , on immigration events, on immigration events, on immigration to events in germany in the 1930s. that it's important for the bbc to maintain impartiality if it is to retain the trust the public who pay the licence . speaking who pay the licence. speaking outside his home this morning,

mr. lineker said he does not fear suspension from the bbc . do fear suspension from the bbc. do you fear games ? not anything you fear games? not anything about the tweet. gary sending the tweet to no. do you stand by what you said or do you stand by what you said or do you stand by what you said in your tweet ? of what you said in your tweet? of course , the number of in england course, the number of in england waiting to start routine hospital treatment has risen slightly. level with the previous record high . nhs previous record high. nhs england says . 7.2 million people england says. 7.2 million people were waiting to start at the end of january , but the number of january, but the number waiting longer 18 months in the same period has come down. a survey released today by the royal college of nursing shows a significant decline in the quality of patient care as well as the wellbeing of nurses and midwives across england . the midwives across england. the prime minister is looking to cooperation with on tackling

small boats in the english channel. rishi sunak will meet french macron in paris . he channel. rishi sunak will meet french macron in paris. he is hoping to implement further measures to prevent migrants crossing and target human trafficking . it will be the trafficking. it will be the first uk air france summit in five years. amber weather warnings for snow and ice are in place for parts of the uk bringing a potential risk to life. blizzard conditions continue to spread across uk with the met office warning that power cuts are likely as well as travel delays and cancelled . the travel delays and cancelled. the coldest temperature in march in more than a decade was recorded in the highlands overnight, dropping to a low of —16 degrees. boris johnson reportedly warned . dominic raab reportedly warned. dominic raab privately about conduct when he was prime minister it is understood the ex tory leader

has given evidence to inquiry into allegations bullying against mr. raab . an independent against mr. raab. an independent lawyer is looking into complaints made by civil servants, the daily telegraph reports. it is highly for a former prime minister to be involved in a downing street investigation . the nuclear power investigation. the nuclear power plant, the largest in europe , plant, the largest in europe, has been reconnected to ukraine's energy grid after power lost during the russian missile . the plant was running missile. the plant was running on emergency diesel for the sixth time to prevent a potentially catastrophic meltdown. ukraine's military says russia fired at one missiles, including six hypersonic missiles on cities across the country . at least across the country. at least nine people were killed in. the strikes . it's been confirmed strikes. it's been confirmed firmed that 25 year old singer man mueller will represent the uk at this year's eurovision

song contest . instead of uk at this year's eurovision song contest. instead of . a run song contest. instead of. a run by crowd and instead she will perform at the event liverpool with the track i wrote a song. the contest is being held in the liverpool arena the 13th of may on behalf of last year's winners. ukraine ms. mueller has described this as a dream . this described this as a dream. this is gb news bring you more as that happens . now, though, it's that happens. now, though, it's back to . back to. patrick all right. welcome back , all right. welcome back, everybody. now loads to get through this hour. everybody. now loads to get through this hour . we start with through this hour. we start with the latest on gary lineker after he compared the government's migration to germany. he has reporters today that he stands by his comments and claims he will present match of the day. this saturday. well, former

this saturday. well, the former england captain been criticised by of government since by a series of government since his tweets tuesday his incendiary tweets tuesday when he said the language used by home secretary suella braverman was like not used by germany the thirties. here's what happened when . lineker what happened when. lineker spoke to a group of reporters outside, morning. outside, his home this morning. you regret that ? do you fear you regret that? do you fear getting suspended? not even if anything about tweet. gary sending the tweet to no. do you stand by what you said? sorry do you stand by what you said your way? of course . okay. all right. way? of course. okay. all right. but should the match of the day host get the red card over asylum policy outburst to discuss further. i'm now joined journalists andrew costa angela epstein unspools journalist harry harris . epstein unspools journalist harry harris. harry, i'll start with you if so. all right. so what do you make of all of this now? because obviously this must be. gary lineker pretty confident. nothing's going to happen to him. yeah. it's a bit of a media hunt against him. obviously. you can see he's

making the news , but he's making all the news, but he's a bit of a, you know is a bit of a twitter twit , isn't he? you twitter twit, isn't he? you know, coming out these know, coming out of these remarks comments he's remarks absurd comments he's making. but, you know, we all believe in freedom of speech. should he be making them? well, you impartiality rules you know, impartiality rules within the bbc is not the first time. come on. it's a fourth or fifth. he's breached those impartiality rules in you know, this guy never got yellow card in his entire career. not likely to get red card now . yes. a good to get red card now. yes. a good footballing analogy there. of course, some would argue that he scored and. i won't go, but there we go. i suppose there is a difference, though. andrew, i'll bring you now between freedom speech and having a freedom of speech and having a political or not, political view, whether or not, that's allowed. also that's even allowed. but also just downright offensive . just being downright offensive. the jewish community, which is what some people have accused him of being. angela, your views. yeah. okay. well i think that he's just so incredibly arrogant . i absolutely believe arrogant. i absolutely believe in free and the right to express

your opinion and the conversation about impartiality is very, very relevant because . is very, very relevant because. he's on the bbc payroll. he's of the highest paid stars. and if they bbc are going to continue to convince us as the state broadcaster that the presenters are impartial and unbiased , then are impartial and unbiased, then they have to rule down heavily on this. but i think it's also about the nature of the conversation that he's triggered because i know he's he's fired off mouth before. and you can just by the optics that just see by the optics of that clip that there's a kind of air of invincible pity about him. he's hugely popular. he's got a huge following. but but i think if only he could just hold his hands up and say on, this one, boss, i wrong . for two very boss, i was wrong. for two very quick reasons. first of all, the holocaust i've said before possibly on this , patrick, is possibly on this, patrick, is darkest moment in human history . it is singular in was attempting to achieve innocent people in their millions 6 million jewish people but also political detractors people who

are who are pursued because of their sexuality were thrown in gas chambers, were deported from ghettos simply because who they were. so it actually undervalues the importance of holocaust education when . you sling it education when. you sling it around as just a kind of casual tweet . and the other thing is, tweet. and the other thing is, because of all this. so what gary lineker is trying to say, rightly or wrongly , in terms of rightly or wrongly, in terms of his impotent partiality , has his impotent partiality, has been drowned out by his choice of analogy. so he's not really servicing the cause. well, i think that's really what he said we're thinking about, the fact that he was so catastrophically grotesque , inappropriate, and grotesque, inappropriate, and his choice of analogy i think that's the thing. certainly for me is i'm particularly me is i'm not particularly bothered on bbc impartiality stuff, but honestly think that ships out quite a long time ago. to it's more about idea of to me it's more about idea of what he said terms of it being offensive towards the jewish community. and although the house traction house got enough traction actually. look , from actually. but harry, look, from actually. but harry, look, from a sports journalist perspective , would much of the day be less

well viewed , if gary lineker well viewed, if gary lineker just wasn't there , my point just wasn't there, my point being, would it be a commercial disaster for the bbc ? they said disaster for the bbc? they said to him, look, gary, you've broken impartiality, rules, you're off . well, it's a good you're off. well, it's a good point that because in my view , i point that because in my view, i was going to make this point anyway . i was going to make this point anyway. i think was going to make this point anyway . i think they're grooming anyway. i think they're grooming jermaine jenas for gary lineker role, and i think the are going to wait for all of this die down. and i think very very, very soon in the near, i think there will be a change. match of there will be a change. match of the day. i agree with that point. you know, match of the day is the institute, not gary lineker. he is probably the best is certainly one of the best presenters in football . there's presenters in football. there's no doubt about that. he has a certain charm on air. you know he's very clever with what he says. he's very clever with what he says . but you know it's the says. but you know it's the football that drives the audience . it's the programme and audience. it's the programme and the match of institution, not gary lineker . and i can see

gary lineker. and i can see jermaine jenas , he's been jermaine jenas, he's been presenting a lot of programmes as well as his successor, mel probably sooner rather than later . and that's harry. i'll later. and that's harry. i'll just with you before i go back to answer on this, because in that sense, realistically, is he worth the controversy for the bbc . all right no , he's not. i bbc. all right no, he's not. i don't think so. i think you know , he's embarrassing the bbc to a large extent , but i think , he's embarrassing the bbc to a large extent, but i think he's also embarrassing himself, you know, and he should some for what he said should apologise. it was it was out of order. i'm jewish myself and i should i take offence i'm not taking offence it's just absurd. it is nothing in relation to reality. we don't like what the tory policies are, but we come up with a better one. perhaps we should send gary lineker to france. angela how important is

it for you that gary lineker may be recognised or understands that ? well, i, be recognised or understands that? well, i, harry be recognised or understands that ? well, i, harry say be recognised or understands that? well, i, harry say he's not particularly offended. it it's fair enough. of course it is, but people are. how important do you think it is a understands the fans that he has actually caused to some sections of jewish community. yeah i of the jewish community. yeah i mean this is not i mean i respect harry's right to take or not this is not that would be a very kind of selfish thing to me. it's all about my personal friends. it's not. it's about the stability that goes the response stability that goes with word. so taking offence with the word. so taking offence doesn't get anybody doesn't really get anybody anywhere and i'm not into council. what saying is. council. what i'm saying is. holocaust education is such an uphill struggle. we i've been involved with a holocaust, a charity over ten years and i've met survivors. i've met their families , have close friends families, have close friends whose parents were survivors i've sat around the dinner table with them and listen their jaw dropping stories and their biggest thing is, please don't let suffering be forgotten. let our suffering be forgotten. please let the human race learn from the evil which which

completely overran europe during the second world war. and when get the likes of gary lineker, who obviously has just got no understanding of history, bandying it around in the way that he has as casual soundbite then. that he has as casual soundbite then . he didn't use that and he then. he didn't use that and he makes holocaust education even more difficult and that's where i'm coming from. it's not about offence. yes, it is offensive . offence. yes, it is offensive. but you know, i'm not asking for him to be cancelled. i'm asking because he's a person of influence . so i'm really sorry, influence. so i'm really sorry, i'd love to sit down with the holocaust vive or somebody who came over on the condition sport and understand in particular kindertransport because they'll have come from germany what was kindertransport because they'll helike ome from germany what was kindertransport because they'll helike during)m germany what was kindertransport because they'll helike during that ermany what was kindertransport because they'll helike during that they ny what was kindertransport because they'll helike during that they think/hat was it like during that they think 19305. was it like having 19305. what was it like having posters on jewish shop windows and people beating up people in the street because they were jewish or others. i'd like him to understand that. and maybe if he heard it firsthand , he might he heard it firsthand, he might not have been so free and easy with his analogies . and okay, with his analogies. and okay, look, we thank very, very look, but we thank very, very much. great stuff. really interesting to get both

perspectives that that is journalist broadcaster. i'm journalist and broadcaster. i'm sure that steve and sports journalist harry i'm just going to delve into my inbox on this. i our next topic because i go to our next topic because you are not going to believe, of course, as well. the one of the latest tactics ask people smugglers get people smugglers using to get people across the channel list is remarkable. but earlier today actually the house actually the leader of the house of mordaunt of commons penny mordaunt accused labour of borrowing from its playbook party its playbook by being the party of gold hangers in a row over the government's asylum policy . the government's asylum policy. lineker has responded , tweeting, lineker has responded, tweeting, thank you for mentioning me , thank you for mentioning me, your clumsy analogy. i'm just happy to have been better in the six yard than you are the six yard box than you are the dispatch box. best wishes, right? i did mentioned earlier about craze really, about the latest craze really, which is sweeping tech . no, it's which is sweeping tech. no, it's not a new dance it's criminal gangs doing marketing people, trafficking businesses and some trips are reportedly being advertised in. actually, i've seen some of these videos that the that goes into is quite the tech that goes into is quite good for £7,000. so what they say is a 45 minute journey over to the uk but if anyone can

afford 7000 big ones to cross the channel can they really be considered poor and or should we be going after the gangs who are making a killing this way? joining me now is immigration lawyer harbhajan singh bong go job. thank you very a lot of people will be watching here listening this now think of listening to this now think of £7,000. these people don't really deserve much of our sympathy if they afford to sympathy if they can afford to get britain . right. well, the get to britain. right. well, the question we need to be asking is how come gb news are an excellent piece of investigative journalism , can find these journalism, can find these videos about tik tok and find out where the gangs are and why in 20 years can the government say we can't the gangs and why did rishi sunak the other day just. well, i tried my best to get the gangs can't now so get the gangs i can't now so we'll we're going to have to we'll do we're going to have to detain single migrant that detain every single migrant that comes going have comes along we're going to have to in for 28 days. to keep them in for 28 days. we're going to have to send we're going to try have to send them countries where we them to countries where we haven't return agreements. haven't got return agreements. it there a lack of it just is there a lack of political will for years, you political will for 20 years, you find and gb news found

find the gangs and gb news found them in one day on tik tok come on. i mean it's pretty lame it well the other v other kick in the metaphorical nets for a lot of people will be the reasons why we're not playing these videos by the way. it's always got people's faces and stuff like there are like that, and there are potential consequences to doing that. these videos that. but some these videos appear be shot like appear very much to be shot like big ben in can clearly big ben in and you can clearly see people in some of them which would imply that a lot of these people running the operations are well, pretty much around the corner where i now. and corner from where i am now. and if we spot this, why can't the government just get involved and 90, government just get involved and go, alright, well we'll left you and hopefully will and then hopefully this will stop. recent news stop. there was a recent news report week in which report this week in which migrant who going to be migrant who was going to be trafficked over actually said he actually your gangs are more to home than what they and about three quarters of the gangs are actually based from uk now to arrest someone in the uk. we don't need to ask anyone else's permission. we need to go after these gangs just the same way we go drug smugglers. we've go after drug smugglers. we've discussed before, patrick.

discussed this before, patrick. why are the gangs not in jail ? why are the gangs not in jail? it'5 why are the gangs not in jail? it's easier to lock up ten gangs and jailing for it is to and jailing for life. it is to detain 50,000 people and try and send rwanda. we can't send them to rwanda. we can't even 200 to rwanda even send 200 people to rwanda at the not even one person. and we spent 140 million on it. if we spent 140 million on it. if we spent 140 million on it. if we spent hundred and 40 we just spent hundred and 40 million on catching these gangs who brazenly tik who advertise brazenly on tik tok shows one or two things over one. they're not afraid to that they know the not going to come after them. now why would they know the government's not going to after? yeah, of course. to come after? yeah, of course. i just do they. i mean, this just don't do they. but got to ask if, but i've got to ask you if, somebody is found to have paid at least £7,000 for a 45 minute joyride across the channel. presumably, however, many of the thousands pounds as well, just to get to the point where they're upbeat about across the channel they're upbeat about across the channel, do you think that that completely diminishes my legal perspective, the that perspective, the idea that they're slavery they're victim of modern slavery orindeed they're victim of modern slavery or indeed they are, you know, in massive need of refuge here we with the refugee and asylum status . i with the refugee and asylum status. i mean, with the refugee and asylum status . i mean, to be fair,

status. i mean, to be fair, people pay to leave their country of origin if they're desperate. but the ad doesn't add credibility to the fact that hold on that why would you need to pay to come from france to come here. so i think the key is the fact is let's kill off the supply and no but know people that we know and users what the government's trying to do. patrick, we're talking this before. is it trying to lock up all the drug users and hope drug dealers stop and today your investigation report has investigation a news report has shown that actually that's not working. we need to catch people smugglers who are in the uk some are on the french coast are based on the french coast they've route for they've using the same route for they've using the same route for the last 20 years. we confine them on tik tok. you can find it tiktok the government don't golf, don't know where they are. they're too clever for us. in which case of ask the question exactly what is the government doing? are they honest ? know doing? are they honest? know tensions? speaking tensions? are they speaking the truth? can't we set up an truth? why can't we set up an elite unit, m15 or something like these gangs, like that to catch these gangs, it doesn't it didn't take you half day to find and also the

half a day to find and also the just shocking thing is i don't even think you need an elite unit. i'm pretty sure if you us half a day, you and i could knock someone's door and go knock on someone's door and go visit this video. right. visit in this video. all right. do to come with us? but do you want to come with us? but i've done much. always i've done too much. always a pleasure, malcolm. and take care. seen the immigration care. i've seen the immigration lawyer just reacting. the fact that now loads of that there are now loads of taken the rounds, taken top videos, the rounds, advertising, get advertising, £7,000. you can get advertising, £7,000. you can get a speedboat and take 45 minute a speedboat and take a 45 minute journey the channel journey across the channel where you course, welcomed you will, of course, be welcomed with prison. it does , with arms into prison. it does, i think, for a lot of people diminish idea. every single diminish the idea. every single person on person coming over here on a boatis person coming over here on a boat is indeed poor and desperately vulnerable desperately need and vulnerable . if someone has £7,000 just to toss towards what appears to be an albanian trafficker, then potentially they are not that needy. potentially they are not that needy . vaiews@gbnews.uk the get needy. vaiews@gbnews.uk the get your views coming in big news today though. big news as well the oscars could be about to gender neutral. that's right i'm patrick christys i we'll be back very shortly with the wonderful kinsey schofield stacey on this

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gb news hello i'm estimate and i'm phillip davis this saturday we've got an exclu massive interview with the chancellor i'm not going to have another leadership campaign once again you i though never again we'll be asking you about tax rises energy will also be asking him about his time as secretary of state for health and chair of the health select committee on whether not we should have whether or not we should have had fierce it's had such fierce lockdown. it's an interview that you can't miss. so join us this saturday 10 i'm giving for 10 to 12. i'm giving for people's . channel okay. welcome people's. channel okay. welcome back, everybody i have got a lot coming in just a moment. should we pay as taxpayers, reparations for the slave ? one labour mp is for the slave? one labour mp is saying you may everyone we know should put our hands into our pockets and, take out a few quid as it is the to say very sorry about what on during the slave trade? where do you stand on that also the oscars is going go

gender neutral supposedly . so gender neutral supposedly. so we're to kinsey we're talking to kinsey schofield stateside all schofield stateside about all of that. schofield stateside about all of that . and as i understand , we that. and as i understand, we are about to win eurovision with our latest entry . some people our latest entry. some people would say that maybe we should belt out song off the one cliffs of dover and it might make some people turn around. but on that note, rishi sunak is preparing to meet emmanuel macron tomorrow in the first uk france summit for five years, the prime minister and, the french president will hold talks in paris where expected to paris where they're expected to discuss efforts to stop discuss joint efforts to stop the small boats leaving french shores. as two other shores. it comes as two other prominent warnings prominent dismiss warnings from brussels government's brussels that the government's illegal bill violates illegal migration bill violates international law basically to get right to the very crux of this am asking whether or not this i am asking whether or not the french are our friends because it sounded like macron was of rishi sunak he was a big fan of rishi sunak he was a big fan of rishi sunak he was happy that he wasn't boris johnson. but want do johnson. but now we want to do something to the boats and something to stop the boats and macron no, it is macron saying, oh no, it is illegal. so go. david is illegal. so here we go. david is a paris based journalist with the and joins me now. the times and he joins me now. thank much, david. thank you very much, david.

great to have you on the show. so is the french government's friends. certainly friends. well, they certainly say want to be our friends say that want to be our friends and they see our rishi sunak being in downing street is an opportunity for a complete reset of bilateral relations and indeed relations the whole of the eu. as you referred to in your intro under boris johnson and then liz truss , relations and then liz truss, relations deteriorated very badly and under boris johnson macron and johnson reached the point where the relationship had become so bad that they were barely on speaking and the view in and i have this from aides of macron and senior french civil servants is the boris johnson in their view just couldn't be trusted you couldn't do business with them you couldn't make a deal with them because you couldn't be trust to keep his promises. now rishi sunak is very similar

to emmanuel macron in some ways. both of them are in their forties with a background in finance . they've both got an eye finance. they've both got an eye for detail and they both appear to put the hard in to get into the nitty gritty and the print. so the signs are pretty good ahead of tomorrow's summit . ahead of tomorrow's summit. okay. what would it actually for britain if emmanuel macron decided to kick up a stink about this? because as far as we can tell, rishi sunak is punting, ploughing ahead with the illegal immigration anyway. and his quotes fines when comes quotes for the fines when comes to it. so does it really matter if emmanuel macron decides that he's not about it? well, i don't think it's emmanuel macron . i think it's emmanuel macron. i think it's emmanuel macron. i think the fight would be with brussels , with the eu, rather brussels, with the eu, rather than france, because macro is fiercely pro—eu and he would want any policy , any sort of want any policy, any sort of action taken by the eu vis a vis

britain to come from the eu as a bloc rather coming bilaterally from france. i okay. alright, well we'll wait. we breath as to what exactly happens . but look what exactly happens. but look david, thank you very much. i'm aware that kept you waiting for aware that kept you waiting for a little while. that how i want to say thank you so much for your insight. she's on. there is a paris based journalist with the watching you the times just watching you through ahead to what the times just watching you thr

cheryl corbell recounted what happened that night she said to her friends and herself were enjoying copper at her house when . they heard two loud bangs when. they heard two loud bangs outside . she went out to outside. she went out to investigate but when she realised what was going on, she ran back to the safety of a front door . but she was followed front door. but she was followed by. joseph nee, who we now know was the intended target of the gunman. she tried to keep the door shut to prevent him from coming inside, but she was forced to let go when she was shot in the wrist . she said that shot in the wrist. she said that belonged to a squad thing everywhere. she then recalled realising that olivia behind her. she said the her nickname for her daughter was on the set on the stairs sat still. at this point in the interview, it was clear cheryl cole bell was hot, broken. she recounted really saying that something was wrong . she said, i lifted top up and the bullet had gone in the

middle of her chest . i knew middle of her chest. i knew she'd gone . she also recalled , she'd gone. she also recalled, her daughter, gasping for breath and telling her that the ambulances would be there soon. she said she was screaming, stay me. after that, the jury then saw a pre—recorded interview with olivia corbell sister chloe , she recalled her mother screaming that olivia had been hit and went on to describe seeing her mum. cheryl tried to stop the bleeding from olivia's chest , a towel. as she made 999 chest, a towel. as she made 999 call. now the court has concluded for the day with this thomas cashman trial. he, of course, denies all of the charges that he's facing . and charges that he's facing. and we're expecting such a regime tomorrow morning here at manchester crown court . yes, manchester crown court. yes, indeed. sophie, thank you very much for bringing us the detail on. also, if you repeat has been outside manchester crown for hours just on the latest that incredibly disturbing case i'm just the inbox very just going go to the inbox very quickly is to tease out what

about coming up shortly, which is going to be our discussion as to whether you the to whether or not you the british taxpayer would feel comfortable putting your hand in your paying your pocket and paying reparations. the slave trade. a labour thinks you labour mp thinks that you not money, should go the caribbean. a lot of people are saying absolutely. would not fancy absolutely. i would not fancy doing it. i agatha's this only he says that no, maybe we should. we already paid enough when it came to actually stopping the slave there's rather awful lot on. rather an awful lot going on. it's about people cos it's about time that people cos over graeme the people over it says graeme the people need to move on. i have not in any way benefited from said slave trade. that is graham's view gbviews@gbnews.uk view course gbviews@gbnews.uk keep them coming. but it is the discussion we're going having discussion we're going be having because trade hundreds because the slave trade hundreds of has been gone. a of years ago has been gone. a lot of people would say, i'm the labour mp thinking that we should dip our hands into our pockets and pay some kind of reparation people reparation for a lot of people to say, no, we don't have the money and don't have the money and we don't have the inclination be inclination either. we'll be about on day about that. and on the day crufts opens. yes, that's right. we will ask, should have to we will ask, should you have to set you get

set an exam before? you get a dog. and also the as well. apparently the oscars are going to gender neutral, y'know, to go gender neutral, y'know, everyone appears be. everyone else appears to be. but now had literally now that you had lots literally . good afternoon. it's 5:31. i'm robert smith in the gb newsroom, the transport secretary says construction of hitches to between birmingham and crewe will be delayed by two years. mark harper says is due to increased costs and significant inflationary pressure. but labour says delay means the nonh labour says delay means the north has pay the price for government failures . gary government failures. gary lineker been accused of diminishing the tragedy of the holocaust , with the home holocaust, with the home secretary saying find his comments offensive if earlier this week the bbc presenter confirmed that. compere the government's language as it introduced its new immigration to that used by germany in the

19305. today he described the fallout over his comments as ridiculously of proportion and confirmed he will still be presenting of the day on saturday. the bbc is under some pressure to sack the former england striker. culture secretary fraser told the commons the broadcaster must maintain impartiality. commons the broadcaster must maintain impartiality . as maintain impartiality. as somebody whose grandmother escaped germany in the 19305. i think it's really disappointing and. inappropriate to compare government policy on immigration events to our immigration to events to our immigration to events in germany in the 19305. it'5 events in germany in the 19305. it's important the bbc to maintain impartiality italy if it is to retain the trust of the pubuc it is to retain the trust of the public who pay the licence fee , public who pay the licence fee, the number of people in england waiting to start hospital treatment has risen slightly level the previous record high

and here is england says around 7.2 million people were waiting to start treatment at the end of january but the number waiting longer than 18 months and the same period has come down. a survey by the royal college of nursing shows a significant decline . the quality of patient decline. the quality of patient care as well as the well—being of nurses and midwives across england . the prime minister england. the prime minister hopes to strengthen cooperation with france on small boats crossing english channel. rishi sunak will meet french president macron in paris tomorrow. he is aiming to implement further measures to prevent illegal migrants crossing . untargeted migrants crossing. untargeted human trafficking gangs. it will be the first uk france summit in five years. amber weather warnings for snow ice are in place for parts the uk until tomorrow , bringing with it tomorrow, bringing with it a potential to life. blizzards due to cause treacherous conditions

with 50 mile per hour winds , 40 with 50 mile per hour winds, 40 centimetres of snow forecast for some areas . the met office is some areas. the met office is warning that cuts are likely as well as travel delays and cancelled missions. the coldest temperature in march in more than a decade was recorded in the highlands overnight, dropping to a low of —16 degrees. tv online and dab+ radio this is gb news now it's back to . back to. patrick yes, a big discussion about whether or not should pay reparations for the slave trade. he's just around the corner, but in other news. the winner of this year's oscars for best actor and actress might be the last because the academy awards could towards more could be moving towards more gender neutral terms. great it comes as the academy awards are

facing mounting pressure to follow grammys by follow this year's grammys by replacing all male and female awards performer or awards with best performer or best performance. well, to shed some more light on this, i'm very happy to joined the epic very happy to be joined the epic showbiz reporter is kinsey schofield good to see you schofield kinsey good to see you again. and again. fantastic stuff. and going on is there much of going on then. is there much of clamour this really ? clamour this really? unfortunately, patrick, there is. it's the los angeles times called the best actress sexist. and out , called the best actress sexist. and out, which is, i mean, ludicrous . if you look at the ludicrous. if you look at the statistics in the last decade, women have had less 34% of the dialogue in films , 40% have been dialogue in films, 40% have been you know, had the starring role in movies. so i that if you have women and men against each other, you know, what are the odds that a woman is going walk away with that award when ? they away with that award when? they really don't have enough content to work with . i mean, do you to work with. i mean, do you think this would end look, disadvantaging men or women more rarely or is it just hard to

know? i do think it would end up damaging more because like i said , statistically, you're said, statistically, you're going to go see a movie with the rock , you're going to go see rock, you're going to go see a movie with pitt, leonardo dicaprio , ben affleck, matt dicaprio, ben affleck, matt damon. i mean , you think of damon. i mean, you think of movie stars. i that you think of you can name 20 men and i don't i really don't think that that that the women can . i mean reese that the women can. i mean reese witherspoon i think of reese witherspoon i think of reese witherspoon nicole kidman. but i do that the men outweigh the women this scenario. it was goldie that told variety magazine month that the oscars have become too politicised . and have become too politicised. and they lack glamour . they lack they lack glamour. they lack class. i think this would be another a damaging mistake that they would would could make in 21. only 10 million people watched in 2022. 16 million. but we all know we in because of the slap. i mean, i'm completely guilty of it . slap. i mean, i'm completely guilty of it. i was like, oh, let's turn the oscars . some will let's turn the oscars. some will smith has been assaulted or will

smith has been assaulted or will smith is assaulting . but i do smith is assaulting. but i do think that this be very damaging towards them . you know, people towards them. you know, people are tuning out because just like, oh, you guys are going to high five each other, it's not really world we live we're living in right now. i think it does more to erase women , does more to erase women, promote any kind of rights whatsoever. i mean, when was the sam smith decided to come out ? sam smith decided to come out? whatever is . and this was we whatever he is. and this was we did an impression of a honey roast ham . but, you know, and roast ham. but, you know, and then and then he's the picture of them. patrick is that is officially is a couple of things not true of his officialdom but but yes and so is this honestly appealing to you? because, you know, for sake of this massive who in charge, she's, you who are in charge, she's, you know, denied potentially women the get their god drugs the right to get their god drugs on win being on and go and win a war. being the best actress, some women want to be an actress. they don't to be actor. them don't want to be actor. them i mean, . and if there mean, absolutely. and if there is if there are so many people that don't identify as something specific , then why don't we

specific, then why don't we create a kattegat sorry for them? this is the female kattegat and eliminating something that women have fought very hard for. mean you know you go to a million auditions to get your first gig and then you've got to crawl up this impassive , got to crawl up this impassive, you know , the task to become you know, the task to become a movie star insane. and so i just think it really does a race women and we should elevate women. it's so funny that this is coming out the day after, international women's day. they're like, yeah, yay, women. by they're like, yeah, yay, women. by the way, you don't. yeah. so true such a good point. look, nancy, thank you very, very much. great to have you on. no doubt. i'll be speaking you doubt. i'll be speaking to you again a matter of hours. again in just a matter of hours. probably hours, course. probably hours, of course. kinsey in kinsey schofield, that just in reaction to the fact that the is supposedly going to go gender neutral. have to neutral. well, we'll have to wait whether they wait and whether or not they actually they would actually do it, but they would go anyway, shall we to give to money countries affected by the slave years slave trade. hundreds of years ago mp says that we do ago a. labour mp says that we do you think that you should have to pay more in size to get to

places like the caribbean and because the slave trade. i'm because of the slave trade. i'm patrick christys.

next all right. well, the latest bonkers things come out of british politics is that labour mp lewis has called on the government to open negotiations with its former colonies in the canbbean with its former colonies in the caribbean to discuss reparations for the british empire's role in the trade. the call the slave trade. the call follows the example of the trevelyan who travelled trevelyan family who travelled to last year to to grenada last year to apologise their role in apologise to their role in enslaving 1000 africans on the island . with me is rafe island. with me now is rafe heydel—mankoo who is a royal broadcaster and commentator . broadcaster and commentator. rafe, you very much. it's rafe, thank you very much. it's kicked inbox this. kicked off the inbox about this. do the british should do you think the british should pay do you think the british should pay to say sorry for, the slave trade? that was hundreds of years . absolutely not. not. years ago. absolutely not. not. you know, it's enough of this. selfridges it's time that britain apologising and stop being and made to feel guilty by. these free radicals like

lewis. one might ask why he's not protesting outside the embassies of chad or mali or sudan or . embassies of chad or mali or sudan or. nigeria, which currently have horrific levels of slavery in them . and it's of slavery in them. and it's funny how mr. lewis and all of his ilk mischievous, decided those current atrocities. you might think they've got an ulterior agenda by them and it's not really slavery the issue. look they were having discussion but 200 years ago of course we've been in favour of reparations for slaves who were directly affected. but this 2023, we're talking about six or seven generations later , the seven generations later, the great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great grandchildren of slaves and the cold, hard for mr. lewis are the descendants of slaves living in the caribbean. were far better quality of life than they would have had if the ancestors had remained in because britain's caribbean possessions, unlike west africa, where the slaves come from, are now middle income . so the now middle income. so the bahamas has a gdp per head , bahamas has a gdp per head, which is comparable to spain and

italy and it's higher than portugal, which actually had many more slaves shipped than britain ever did. and you look at barbados or , st kitts and at barbados or, st kitts and nevis or antigua , they've all nevis or antigua, they've all got higher rankings amongst. the un human development index than brazil or mexico. many the countries colonised by the spanish. and then if you compare and contrast that with the countries of west africa from where the slaves originally came or look at benin, for example, the gdp per capita of benin here is $1,430 per year, about by it's is $1,430 per year, about by il'5 17,000. thal'5 is $1,430 per year, about by it's 17,000. that's ten times higher. and life expectancy in benin is 62 and barbados is 79. so, yes, slavery was abhorrent. but for those who are . but have but for those who are. but have they stayed in africa that 21st century descendants today who been living dramatically worst lives ? get a grip. okay what lives? get a grip. okay what about the old barbary slaves as well ? if we're about the old barbary slaves as well? if we're doing the reparations thing, they maybe they could go the other way . they could go the other way. yeah, absolutely what about the

barbary slaves were over million white people were brought into slavery in the barbary slave trade. and also, what the demands made for africans pay reparations. why isn't mr. actually asking for nigeria or benin to pay reparations to people in the caribbean? because course the white slavers had their ships moored off the coast and they didn't venture ensure they purchased slaves ever been captured by other africans and there were more held in bondage and in slavery in africa and wherever transported across the ocean . and actually, the slave ocean. and actually, the slave trade continued far longer. the islamic slave trade of african slaves carried on, went into the century and modern day slavery, of course, exists. there are more slaves in bondage today. there were any time under the british empire with pakistan actually being the west culprit in all of this. and then , of in all of this. and then, of course, why should british taxpayers pay for slavery reparations when only 3000 people in this country ever owned slaves? the majority

british people in this country descends from people who lived lives of abject poverty, terrible hardships akin to serfdom . i mean, it's strong serfdom. i mean, it's strong stuff, right? thank you very for inviting us all. with eyes rife as ever, a wonderful to any show. he's a royal broadcaster and commentator and historian . and commentator and historian. well, in case you couldn't. so we're moving on now something a little bit different because don't get sacked recording by police than police have risen more than a third in the past five years and across england and wales there were nearly 22,000 cases out of control dogs causing injury last year alone . these days, year alone. well, these days, dog has risen by dog population has risen by almost 15% and not since 2018. but what can be done to kerb this sharp rise attacks. and some people are suggesting the owners should sit an exam before they can legally own man's best friend. well someone who was left very unfortunately with facial injuries after being bitten by a dog in 2021 and missed two and a half months of school while she was recovering. is blue whitehurst and very

pleased she joins me now chester hello how are you ? i'm good, hello how are you? i'm good, thank you. how are you? i'm all right. well, i'm very to hear about what happened to you. of course you want to run us through what did happen and say , i was at one of my friend's house. the dog was across my lap , and it had been previously without me. i didn't know had bitten someone before . and it's bitten someone before. and it's a male dog and it's an english bull terrier. so it's quite broad and so i leant forward just because it was heavy and it was on my lap and. it just went off and attacked me on my face. 0h, off and attacked me on my face. oh, gosh. okay right. and what happened that then presumably you had to go to hospital, did you had to go to hospital, did you ? yes. so obviously because you? yes. so obviously because it was a it was about 68 hours. we were all a bit in shock and we didn't quite know what to do. and i ended up ringing mum and she was like, i'll come get . she was like, i'll come get. yeah. and then we obviously went

to macksville hospital to macclesfield also i know macclesfield also i know macclesfield all the actually i grew up down the road from that, but that was yes so okay. how was this changed or if it was changed? all your view of dogs and dog owners, are you afraid dogs now ? i think having my got dogs now? i think having my got dogs now? i think having my got dogs myself. so having dogs really helped me to kind of understand that not dogs a lot. and also it also has made me aware that you do also the history of a dog and how it's in the house because if my dogs have been brought up amazing and i wouldn't bear them at all but then there's also when going into someone's house is always into someone's house is always in the back of your mind of well this dog also bred in bull the same way mad dogs has been. bull yeah, exactly. well do you think about the idea then , that owners about the idea then, that owners should be made to sit some kind of test? i mean, i suppose you

could argue . people would have could argue. people would have to take a test to learn how to drive a car and be able to drive legally and that could be quite a dangerous thing. driving, of course. so do you that people should have to undergo something similar want to similar if they want to own a dog in the test. there's definitely should be more restrictions in terms of like getting dogs in for it because this dog was in it as an ex fine dog and why how is dog after it's been and someone was then allowed back a home with six teenagers with owner but this is an ex fighting dog and this should definitely be more restrictions on like if you knew this was dangerous and put it in a different room, put it in a cage, warn people when come in and keep it sat. but there's just a lot things that an owner should do to make sure that

people who were going into their homes are safe. can i can i ask you, do you tend to blame dog owners or the dogs themselves? this is kind a big debate that people have, isn't it? you is it the dog's fault when something bad happens or is it the way that it was brought up? i suppose could say. where do suppose you could say. where do you stand on that? and it's obviously a difficult one, but at the end of the day, whether a dog dangerous or not, the owner is in charge of that . if his dog is in charge of that. if his dog is in charge of that. if his dog is dangerous , put it in a is dangerous, put it in a separate room . they bring it separate room. they bring it around. people and so you can argue all you want that it's the of breed that is bull, at the end of the day , the owner has end of the day, the owner has full control of that dog of whether of who it sees and what it does and it was a muzzle le i've i've had staffy since i was younger and they've been amazing and we've a staff and amazing

but we also taught the because sure of the fact that we haven't the full history checks on it so let's be cautious . well let's be cautious. well obviously it was perfect and they never did anything . but they never did anything. but there's always the fact you are in charge of , that dog, you can in charge of, that dog, you can move from someone else. exactly a bit of responsibility , i a bit of responsibility, i think. but thank you very much for coming on sharing your story as well. it's nice see that you've bounced back from what must have been a very scary incident for and of course you've not lost faith in you've not lost all faith in dogs as well, i can tell, which is stuff. thank you so, is lovely stuff. thank you so, so great have you on the so much great to have you on the show. why as the who show. that's why as the who shared her story. and that was, of in relation to the of course, in relation to the fact dog attacks apparently fact that dog attacks apparently are rise. the people are on the rise. the people should maybe tests in should maybe taking tests in order a dog. i'm not order to keep a dog. i'm not quite where stand on that quite sure where i stand on that myself but think myself really, but i do think that maybe can do a more, that maybe owners can do a more, which is what was saying which is what lesley was saying was anyway, that we well, was anyway, that we go, well, extend it out time when i hand you the expert hands of

you over the expert hands of michelle dewberry which sounded you over the expert hands of michelle myyberry which sounded you over the expert hands of michelle my handswhich sounded you over the expert hands of michelle my hands then sounded better in my hands then when i said it loud, but i'm going said it out loud, but i'm going dip into the terrifying world of my vaiews@gbnews.uk my inbox. vaiews@gbnews.uk and lots been getting in lots of you have been getting in touch on whether or not. gary lineker his lineker should be sacked. his comments the comments for comparing the government's 1930s government's asylum to 19305 germany as . if lineker germany howls as. if lineker thinks he's brilliant, thinks that he's so brilliant, perhaps give up perhaps he should give up £1,000,000 with the bbc's £1,000,000 job with the bbc's sound. as an mp, i'm sure we'll soon find out what work really is, cliff says. outside of football, gary lineker is to think clearly, demonstrated football, gary lineker is to thi distorted , demonstrated football, gary lineker is to thi distorted interpretationated football, gary lineker is to thi distorted interpretation ofd by distorted interpretation of the current emigrant . i by distorted interpretation of the current emigrant. i did have another fantastic email as well that said to me, yes, gary lineker might not have got a yellow card during his career. he famously wasn't particularly good, but this had a so they go that i think wins of the day i'm going to to michelle now going to go to michelle now anyway co follows up how anyway dewbs& co follows up how are very well, thank are you. i'm very well, thank you. just the email you. i've just read the email and your inbox. it says patrick. you. i've just read the email ayouryur inbox. it says patrick. you. i've just read the email ayour show3ox. it says patrick. you. i've just read the email ayour show most says patrick. you. i've just read the email ayour show most days patrick. you. i've just read the email ayour show most days and'ick. you. i've just read the email ayour show most days and not i your show most days and not only cheer me up with only do you cheer me up with your no nonsense following opinion but you make me laugh out has met out loud, which has election met that john h. thought that says john h. i thought it

was from my now i don't get emails mum does emails like no. my mum does regularly email it under false names actually. yes, she yeah, regularly email it under false name�*yeah,ally. yes, she yeah, regularly email it under false name�*yeah, yeah.es, she yeah, regularly email it under false name�*yeah, yeah.es, she was|, yeah. yeah, yeah. well it was a year or so ago, there's only year or so ago, there's only year or so ago, there's only year or so ago that my mum stop sending me anonymous valentine day so i didn't feel day cards so i didn't feel a lot. well you've just brought up a point. i still a very sore point. i still cannot over the fact that on cannot get over the fact that on valentine's day, ladies , valentine's day, ladies, gentlemen, this guess . who gentlemen, get this guess. who got a valentine's day card of patrick and i can't even get. 0h, patrick and i can't even get. oh, yeah, i am still to this day and will continue to be wound by the fact that it was you who got the fact that it was you who got the idea card. but it was anonymous. it was anonymous they did the traditional little question time. so i question mark at the time. so i will never you watch will never know if you watch this that it will actually this now that it will actually fluctuate probably once my mum i was home watching was just home at home watching my mum as suppose my mom will my mum as my suppose my mom will be watching it. never writes be watching it. she never writes in, write what got. in, oh well write what you got. yes. anyway, whole civil yes. anyway, this whole civil service thing, should service blob thing, how should there investigation mean. there be an investigation mean. come get over it . come on, get over it. billionaires, according to biden, he's going to start taxing them more, which, of course, has popped . lot of

course, has popped. lot of people are saying tax the wealthy more here. i mean , how wealthy more here. i mean, how much more do you want to tax people and boris johnson he's annoying the people he annoying the right people he doesn't seem to be doing his job very well at moment to very well at the moment to somebody raking it in. yeah. somebody is raking it in. yeah. so what should happen to boris and this accounts and my and get this accounts and my show into everyone show getting into this everyone going in scotland they're proposing know, misogyny. proposing you know, misogyny. i'm . yeah, i was just out i'm away. yeah, i was just out for you. just you know, they do indeed know misogyny honestly say nothing anyway, if you discuss your sexual conquests out loud . scotland if things out loud. scotland if things progressed the way that they might be looking to you could end up lots up in prison for about seven years. all sorts. i'm not ever making it up. everyone story. i'll get the details on my show in a minute is not this well this command well that's like every lying 14 year old boy is just gullible you know she's a different school so they even make you now come back because i'll get locked up. i know it's all where it is sometimes i don't envy

you. i think life when there's a pecking order at moment pecking order at the moment white men , you're right at the white men, you're right at the bottom. but it will be a good thing because i suppose if anything, me, you know, growing up active anything, me, you know, growing up they active anything, me, you know, growing up they would active anything, me, you know, growing up they would have active anything, me, you know, growing up they would have liked :tive anything, me, you know, growing up they would have liked to re as they would have liked to have, could have, have, but now could have, instead having to reveal or instead of having to reveal or make things could have make things up, i could have just not legally to i just got i'm not legally to i mean, this would ofttimes tell you can't you even if so you but i can't you even if so because might end up prison. because i might end up prison. yeah i'm not going to you know i would tell you all and it's not stop. i'm telling you guys non stop. i'm telling you guys non stop can't, don't stop but i can't, i don't want to do, i want to do to do, i don't want to do anything prison in head. anything in prison in my head. thank you very much. fantastic. all right. well, michelle is going very, very going to be away very, very shortly. michelle james shortly. michelle with james catalogue. you very much. catalogue. thank you very much. everybody who's been getting in touch throughout the course of this i be back again this show. i will be back again this show. i will be back again this evening as well. from nine until for a another until 11 pm. for a another stellar edition of dan wootton tonight with me tonight but this time with me patrick michelle patrick christys. look, michelle comes very, very comes your way very, very shortly dewbs& take it shortly with dewbs& co. take it easy, people .

activist and up. it's all blown up. now people are calling for her to be disciplined or investigated and whatnot . should investigated and whatnot. should she be. your thoughts on that ? she be. your thoughts on that? and boris johnson, he is absolutely raking it in. many, though, are saying that he's taking the mickey out of parliament's because get this, he's only spoken six times. thus since september. what should we do with boris johnson ? well, do with boris johnson? well, keep it clean, but give me your

thoughts on that. and joe