activist and up. it's all blown up. now people are calling for her to be disciplined or investigated and whatnot . should investigated and whatnot. should she be. your thoughts on that .7 she be. your thoughts on that? and boris johnson, he is absolutely raking it in. many, though, are saying that he's taking the mickey out of parliament's because get this, he's only spoken six times. thus since september. what should we do with boris johnson ? well, do with boris johnson? well, keep it clean, but give me your

thoughts on that. and joe biden and he's got plans when it comes to billionaires. he wants to tax them more. what do you reckon? should we copy him and tax the wealthy more in this country? and are you a man? are you partial to a bit of tendency to brag among fellow men about your sexual conquests? be careful if you are indeed one of them. because misogyny laws this time overin because misogyny laws this time over in scotland could see you if it all happens. and comes to pass, you could be in prison for many years . you better watch many years. you better watch yourself, boys. that's all i can say to you. well, have all of that to come with two of my favourites tonight. you to favourites tonight. you got to wait to who they are because wait to see who they are because right now we're going to catch up with latest headlines up with all the latest headlines . good evening. it is 6:01. i'm rory smith and the gb newsroom, the transport secretary says construction of hitches to between birmingham and crewe will be delayed by two years.

mark harper says that is due to increased costs and significant inflow salary pressure. but labour says the delay means the nonh labour says the delay means the north has to pay the price for government failures . gary government failures. gary lineker has been accused of diminishing the tragedy of the holocaust. but the home secretary said she find his comments offensive. earlier this week, the bbc presenter compared the government's language around its new immigration policy to that used by germany in the 1930. he has described the fallout as ridiculously out of proportion . the bbc is under proportion. the bbc is under some pressure to sack the former england striker, but today he confirmed he will be presenting much of the day on saturday. culture secretary lucy fraser told the commons the broadcaster must maintain impartiality. told the commons the broadcaster must maintain impartiality . as must maintain impartiality. as somebody whose grandmother escaped germany in the 1930s. i

think it's really disappointing and inappropriate to compare government policy on immigration events to our immigration to events to our immigration to events in germany in the 1930s. it's important for the bbc to maintain impartiality if it is to retain the trust of the pubuc to retain the trust of the public who pay the licence fee. speaking outside his home this morning , mr. lineker said he morning, mr. lineker said he does not fear suspension from the bbc . do does not fear suspension from the bbc. do you does not fear suspension from the bbc . do you fear getting the bbc. do you fear getting suspended? no, you don't. yes. think about the tweet, gary sending the tweet to. look, do you stand by what you said or do you stand by what you said or do you stand by what you said or do you stand by what you said in your tweet ? of course , the your tweet? of course, the number of people in england waiting to start routine hospital treatment has risen slightly levels with the previous record high. nhs england says around 7.2 million people were waiting to start

treatment at the end of january . but the number of patients waiting longer than 18 months in the same period has decreased. a survey by the royal college of nursing shows a significant decline in the quality of patient care , as well as the patient care, as well as the wellbeing of nurses and midwives across england . the prime across england. the prime minister is looking to strengthen cooperation with france on tackling small boats in the english channel. rishi sunak will meet french president macron in paris tomorrow. he is hoping to implement further measures to prevent illegal migrants crossings and target human trafficking gangs. it'll be the first due care france summit in five years . amber summit in five years. amber weather warnings for snow and ice are in place for parts of the uk. this evening and overnight. but bringing with it a potential risk to life. blizzards are due to cause treacherous conditions with 50

mile per hour winds and 40 centimetres of snow forecast for some areas. the met office is warning that power cuts are likely as well as travel delays and cancellations. the coldest temperature in march in more than a decade was recorded in the highlands overnight, dropping to a low of —61 degrees. the zapper asia nuclear power plant, the largest in europe , has been reconnected to europe, has been reconnected to ukraine's energy grid after power was last year and russian missile strikes . the plant was missile strikes. the plant was running on emergency diesel generators for the sixth time to prevent a potentially catastrophic meltdown . ukraine's catastrophic meltdown. ukraine's military says russia fired 81 missiles, including six hypersonic missiles on cities across the country . at least across the country. at least nine people were killed in the strikes . the prince and princess strikes. the prince and princess of wales have praised the communities who are fundraising

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of last year's winners, ukraine. ms. mueller has described it as a dream tv online and a plus radio. this is gb news. now it's back to dewbs& co . back to dewbs& co. thanks for that, will. i'm michelle dewberry and i'm keeping you company until 7:00 tonight alongside me. daniel moylan is a conservative peer in the house of lords and kevin craig, a former labour councillor and the ceo of communications company plasma . good evening, gentlemen. plasma. good evening, gentlemen. welcome evening . daniel, as per welcome evening. daniel, as per usual, you're like a chunky chancen usual, you're like a chunky chancer, an uncle left out the headlines. he wasn't happy. everybody because the news report and i was talking about centimetres. now it's forcing into me the snow. you tell me it's about a foot. me? why didn't he say about demonstrating? how long? how big? 40 centimetres was a foot of snow? everybody knows what a

foot is. they've all got feet. everyone knows what 40 centimetres is as well. well, half of you, you know, it's probably his labour. yes, of course. he knows you want to go back to shillings, daniel? well well, we're deep at the bank well, we're so deep at the bank of so devalued the of england are so devalued the currency a shilling currency that a shilling wouldn't be worth much. now it's on the birth the bank. wouldn't be worth much. now it's on tiit birth the bank. wouldn't be worth much. now it's on tiit we th the bank. wouldn't be worth much. now it's on tiit we was the bank. wouldn't be worth much. now it's on tiit we was talking the bank. wouldn't be worth much. now it's on tiit we was talking the other was it we was talking the other day. you're talking about opening members. about opening members. what about dog licences? there was licences? yeah and there was all in albany that wasn't about 35, 37 a half pence feet i go 37 and a half pence feet i go jack is email that is in six months i never missed gb news and i email all the time about all different topics but i never get a mention. so from now on i will watch, but i'm not ever going to email again. best wishes, jack. well, i go jack . wishes, jack. well, i go jack. hopefully again hopefully you'll email and again . and just so you know, i do mention but i do read all mention this, but i do read all of emails. can't get of your emails. i can't get round all of them when i live round to all of them when i live on know because really my inbox is literally on fire. it is a is literally on fire. it doesn't but i do doesn't stop, but i do throughout evening. a throughout my evening. what a way my nights. i read way i spend my nights. i read all comments, lots of

all of your comments, lots of them. i found interesting occasion and many of them actually and that actually make me laugh and that is a hard task. well done, all of know the of you. anyway. you know the drill, get in touch, drill, don't you? get in touch, vaiews@gbnews.uk. is that your email address? can tweet email address? or you can tweet me news. right move me at gb news. right let's move on. shall we? the only on. what shall we? the only thing still on the news thing is still on the news agenda today, but be honest, agenda today, but to be honest, i think it's all a bit ridiculous. i'm 40 are talking about don't mind i'll about if you don't mind i'll just different angle, just focus on a different angle, which braverman . did which is suella braverman. did you see that she's been in a spot of bother because she sent this email basically tourism this email basically to tourism policies alleged that policies or it's alleged that she name on the she sent to add her name on the bottom anyway saying that's an bottom anyway, saying that's an activist blob of left wing lawyer, civil servants and the labour party basically are trying to come together to stop the government making any inroads to stopping the channel crossing . she basically says crossing. she basically says that she didn't know about this email . it that she didn't know about this email. it wasn't her signature and all the rest of it anyway . and all the rest of it anyway. calls now saying that she is basically in the wrong she's breached this not the other one

of the unions. one of the heads of the unions. one of the heads of the unions is basically he's saying he wants this investigation is told civil servants to make sure that they have kind security have kind of security precautions and the rest of precautions and all the rest of it's getting a it's all getting a bit ridiculous you ask me. but ridiculous if you ask me. but anyway, do think she anyway, do you think she had a point? well, she may have had a point, but she didn't actually make it, because be make it, because let's be absolutely clear, this was absolutely clear, this email was sent email by the sent out as a mass email by the conservative campaign headquarters, conservative central offices. to central offices. we used to call it. name on it. it. they put her name on it. they had no right to do so. they did not have her permission. she didn't know about it. those are the and nobody has the facts. and nobody has actually disputed facts to actually disputed those facts to believe believe that believe that. i do believe that because i certainly believe that because i certainly believe that because they are totally a little no , little bit totally the. no, no, no, no, no. i totally believe that. and that's the sort of way, afraid that central way, i'm afraid that central office can easily imagine them office i can easily imagine them doing that and they should be looking at what they did. and i think apologising because they misrepresented her views. so that's first thing. that's that's the first thing. that's the the question the fact. but then the question is, had made the point, is, if she had made the point, would she have had a point to

make? and i think it's undoubtedly that there undoubtedly the case that there are serious about the are serious concerns about the impartiality the civil impartiality of the civil service. the gray service. we have the sue gray affair. there's still no account from starmer of when started from starmer of when he started talking whether they both can storm one. we're storm on that one. we're entitled got the entitled to know. we've got the fact the permanents fact that the permanents secretary the home office is secretary of the home office is reported in papers, reported today in the papers, having written with civil having written around with civil servants it's their job servants saying it's their job to ministers. it's to challenge ministers. it's theirjob to challenge ministers. it's their job to work for ministers by the way, not to challenge ministers necessarily . and ministers necessarily. and they've got to challenge ministers. and you've got the trade unions representing the staff in the home office, not for the first time threatening or taking actually taking the government to court over policies formulated by democratically elected government. so my question is, who do these people think they are ? you know, how many people are? you know, how many people are? you know, how many people are out? know how many employees of the civil service? and i think about a quarter of a million. how many do you think i should know? but i don't, michel. 300,000. how many do you think at home? i'll give you the answer less. or on

answer a bit less. or on how many? people do you many? how many people do you think are by civil think are employed by the civil service he says. five service in the uk? he says. five 2000 n0. service in the uk? he says. five 2000 no. 200 and double the 44 million, as you're saying, cause he also n250 half a million upwards. they go, that's a little test. i'll give you the answer, but that's wrong. and don't it way, don't google it by the way, i don't google it by the way, i don't like a cheats anyway. what don't like a cheats anyway. what do you make to the whole email? do you think she's right to say that civil servants are that the civil servants are stifling, blocking the government's mean, government's plans? no. i mean, i'm going to take things i'm going to try and take things in that, know, if in good faith that, you know, if she says she didn't sign off and it in tory hq, it was someone in tory hq, then i'd to take people in good i'd like to take people in good faith and i'll accept that. but this the reason this is, you know, the reason people get upset about it is because the recent leaked whatsapp show what some tory cabinet members say in private. right. | cabinet members say in private. right. i think you remember this week, williamson, all week, gavin williamson, all these are always these teachers are always looking an excuse be looking for an excuse to be lazy. this speculation lazy. so this this speculation feeds that kind of mentality and i think we have to be quite careful about saying the civil service partial and not service is partial and not neutral because the civil service, i think, is something

we should be of as a we should be proud of as a country. i'd like to be. yeah. and i think they can. in fact, i know they can take people of all political persuasions and they their challenge their job is they challenge the labour of the 97 to labour government of the 97 to 2010. they challenge ministers to make good decisions. they test it, you know , they push test it, you know, they push them. but at the end of the day, them. but at the end of the day, the service knows they the civil service knows they have to execute the programme of the government and the elected government and i think some the blob and think some of this the blob and leftie lawyers is this government trying to distract people from its income , people from its income, competence and competence. well i don't think that's actually what's happening. i think that we've had successes come out, especially over brexit, but it could have come out of other over things and we've over other things and we've seen, in my view , a collection seen, in my view, a collection of people, including very often leading civil servants working against delivering the brexit we voted for. now you can't put a name to those people while they're working from the civil service , but my god, you watch service, but my god, you watch from the minute they leave the civil service. not the minute,

because they've got a little gap. the after they've left gap. but the after they've left the civil service and they're no longer under any obligation and they to reveal own they start to reveal their own views . many of the senior ones views. many of the senior ones are actually house of are actually in the house of lords. have to be in lords. they didn't have to be in the house of lords for us to find out what they thought. all the time and they are not supportive they're supportive and they're still not supportive. don't hear supportive. i still don't hear people saying, vote people saying, i didn't vote for brexit, really want brexit, but i really want britain to be success as an britain to be a success as an independent country outside the european union. you know, i don't at all. i ever hear them say is in order for britain to be a success, we need to stay really close to the european be a success, we need to stay really ands to the european be a success, we need to stay really and follow; european be a success, we need to stay really and follow their»pean be a success, we need to stay really and follow their rules . union and follow their rules. that's ever hear people that's all i ever hear people say well, i would say, daniel, say. well, i would say, daniel, i the evidence of anybody deliberately obstructing brexit, i think we would have to get very specific and say, what is the evidence for it? and there's a really good point. you raised about sue gray. okay, we need to get rid of the idea that senior people in civil service don't have their own political views or they

or wherever, but it's how they they don't let them interfere with the execution of their job. yeah, we're not talking about that. what would do? what that. what would you do? what would i very sue gray would you did? i very sue gray and that's not the point about sue the point about sue sue gray the point about sue gray is what confidence can you have civil when have in the civil service when somebody is that who somebody is senior? is that who also because she had that special job charge of ethics, also because she had that spe

when that first started, but i think it's all a distraction. well i don't i don't actually know why and i don't know the detail. and i think i saw that slightly uncomfortable interview on someone. does it strike you as no. strikes as as odd? no. what strikes me as odd big brouhaha. okay odd is this big brouhaha. okay the sue gray. i mean, no wonder she wants to go work for the labour party . she's baffled to labour party. she's baffled to be delving around the cesspit of around the administration, led by your old boss, boris. and she probably wants to go somewhere with ethics and a bit of you know, decency and honesty around it. she she may it. the fact that she she may well had political views well have had political views all along, but she executed that job very difficult. and it was very and did it very difficult. and she did it in fair way. and before it in a fair way. and before it came that she was going to came out, that she was going to go keir starmer, people go work for keir starmer, people didn't criticise sue gray didn't criticise the sue gray report but report, they accepted it, but it's just up to me. it feels like a bit of you're making a different point. i'm not. you are. how can you trust the civil service? that's the point. how can them to be can you trust them to be politically when she's politically neutral when she's that to labour party that close to the labour party that close to the labour party that discussions for

that she's in discussions for several while several months while still holding? assume several holding? i assume several months? we don't know about holding a senior job and holding a seniorjob and proposes to go straight from one to the other. doesn't inform the bit she's her terms and conditions mean she's subject to what's called business plan approved. even she's approved. she didn't even she's meant to have told them when she was discussing the job. she didn't gone. still didn't. she's gone. she still yesterday she hadn't applied to them for permission to move. i mean, this isn't ethical behaviour. we serious silly compare questioning sue grey's ethics compared to for example, bofis ethics compared to for example, boris johnson. oh are you are you or boris johnson ? boris you or boris johnson? boris johnson is a principle old man is he is a principled man, a scholar and a gentleman . wow. scholar and a gentleman. wow. bofis scholar and a gentleman. wow. boris johnson is a principled now a scholar and a gentleman that says daniel. so i'm going to press pause on that note and i'm going to return to it. easy. do you agree with that sentiment? you could say all that in ancient greek as well. you see which clash, actually, yeah, can will let

yeah, i probably can will let you go. that is your task. i want don't forget your want you. don't forget your question. asked you how question. i've asked you how many people are in the civil service at that. i want your answers. quarter million. answers. quarter of a million. he most, sir, says he reckons most, sir, says kevin. what you just kevin. and what was it you just surprised? johnson has surprised? boris johnson has been of principle, been as a man of principle, a scholar and a gentleman? in one way, i do agree with that. no. right. well, go we're right. well, they go we're going to why three. he's to find out why in three. he's written books . but you haven't . written books. but you haven't. so is al capone. i've written a book. anyway we're doing what i thought was going to break. we're saying, hey, look . there's help for households. are you over state pension age? if your weekly income is below £182.60, or £278.70 if you live with a partner, you could be eligible for pension credit, even if you own your home or have savings. it's worth, on average, £3,500 a year and you could get help with heating bills and more, plus up to £900 in cost of living payments.

at a man of principle lover and a gentleman who we're talking about. gentleman who we're talking about . yeah, in a second. i'm about. yeah, in a second. i'm michelle dewberry not keeping you company till 7:00 tonight. daniel moylan is alongside me. he's a tory pair in the house of lords and kevin craig is a former councillor the former labour councillor and the sea of communications company pr are lots of you guys. i've just

been getting in touch about that last topic suella braverman whether or not she's in breach of a code of conduct or not, so many of you basically just saying pack it in, leave her alone . beth says. to be fair, alone. beth says. to be fair, she's probably right. the home office all is a in babs view, all of them to nominate. they are i'm told yet, but i will. so many of you are being quite harsh to what they civil servants are any of you watching this, perhaps working as civil servants? what do you think when you hear people saying that you're lazy, that you're kind of trying to frustrate outcomes and all it? how does all the rest of it? how does that morale ? gordon that make your morale? gordon says michelle the civil service is like an episode of yes minister williams says, why are you basically criticising suella braverman? she is one of the few politicians that i respect. that's not me . william may . it's that's not me. william may. it's the union leader that represents the union leader that represents the civil servant . steve penman the civil servant. steve penman is called. he's saying that the

email is a direct attack on the integrity and impartiality. you've got the lib dems calling for an investigation on it. so yeah, it's not me. i'm just merely debating the goings on of the day . anyway, keep your the day. anyway, keep your thoughts coming in. many, if you've been getting in touch about the civil servants, a million, says one person. alan says whatever the number is, the answer should be about half of it . philip says, you're asking it. philip says, you're asking the wrong question. i don't care how many are employed. i'd like to know many of them are to know how many of them are actually doing work. actually doing any work. christine, you are absolutely spot don't believe spot on and are don't believe that googled that you haven't googled that because obscure because it's quite an obscure figure. it down to figure. you've got it down to the to the exact sir i think you might google no one else has got it right so far. i'll tell you a bit later on what the answer is now. i'm not a principal scholar and gentlemen, that was the words we are up in the show with. we are about did with. we are talking about did you johnson and get you guess boris johnson and get this , it's come under criticism this, it's come under criticism today. as always , coming under today. as always, coming under criticism as any, quite frankly. but anyway, he's only spoken in the commons how many

the house of commons how many times since september? 60 times. you should know that, by the way, because i said it in my interest. you didn't know, interest. if you didn't know, you're attention you're not been paying attention anyway. raked in millions anyway. he has raked in millions and millions pounds, and millions of pounds, delivering across the delivering speeches across the world. and so kevin is saying, what's going on? everybody's speeches all around the world. if only speak in six towns, if you only speak in six towns, you're doing your job, your you're not doing your job, your primary the mp . well, it primary job as the mp. well, it can't be. boris is very can't be. but boris is very money, motive . i said, you know, money, motive. i said, you know, he used struggle on getting he used to struggle on getting by grand year when he by on 300 grand a year when he was prime minister. you know, it was prime minister. you know, it was a run off hot chicken for hearts before chicken feed, blah, blah, blah, blah. can hearts before chicken feed, bsurvive h, blah, blah. can hearts before chicken feed, bsurvive this?ih, blah. can hearts before chicken feed, bsurvive this? you lah. can hearts before chicken feed, bsurvive this? you know? can hearts before chicken feed, bsurvive this? you know? andin hearts before chicken feed, bsurvive this? you know? and so i survive this? you know? and so he's of touch and, you know, he's out of touch and, you know, he's out of touch and, you know, he's paid 200 grand for he's getting paid 200 grand for speech 250 speech here. another one, 250 there. ministers there. now all prime ministers do balance in context do this this balance in context when they leave office , they can when they leave office, they can earn huge amounts of money. but why? does boris still bother why? why does boris still bother being a member of parliament? i mean, we were asked i used to work for him, but he's not, you know, the boris johnson , his own know, the boris johnson, his own former ministers called him

somebody who presided over a culture of lies and deceit . culture of lies and deceit. people call him a liar and he doesn't you know, he's doesn't sue them. you know, he's not honest person. how not an honest person. and how long have you got to discuss where he's been found not to have told the truth as a special? for what it's worth, by the way, i did a live show in his seats . what it was actually his seats. what it was actually i was there. i was you that. yes, i was an impact, obviously. well, i'll just thinking how long ago was it feels like a lifetime ago, but perhaps wasn't anyway, if you was there, then you will remember the point i was about to make, which is when i ask the audience, his constantly he likes. constantly ones who he likes. bofis constantly ones who he likes. boris pretty much all boris johnson, pretty much all of put their household boris johnson, pretty much all of |at their household boris johnson, pretty much all of |at the same sehold boris johnson, pretty much all of |at the same gigyld boris johnson, pretty much all of |at the same gig id boris johnson, pretty much all of |at the same gig i think well. we at the same gig i think so no one of us is misremember that. i'll be you. well, well . that. i'll be you. well, well. so you're telling me that when we asked those people, they didn't. didn't all know. didn't. they didn't all know. well, lot of what i'm going to do tonight. i'm going watch. do tonight. i'm going to watch. i'm on to you tube i'm going to go on to you tube and watch us live in and you can watch us live in uxbndge and you can watch us live in uxbridge as we was. and i'm going to watch that back because i making out. but

i hope i'm not making out. but if i am, i'm dreaming positively about which be about boris, which would be a bit odd. daniel, what do you make i think is, make then? so what i think is, is absolutely hilarious is just absolutely hilarious because of because up until now, most of the people attacking boris, since he ceased to be prime minister, been saying, minister, have been saying, shut up. time he's in the up. every time he's in the newspaper. see over newspaper. you see all over twitter while you go to say go away they do want to away and die, they do want to hear boris. they want him hear from boris. they want him to die and go away. no, no. now they've had that gig and now the next one they're going to next one is they're going to say, aren't you say, well, why aren't you speaking why speaking more often? why aren't you of commons you in the house of commons making let me just making speeches? let me just tell something about tell you something about the house commons. bit like the house of commons. a bit like the house of commons. a bit like the house lords. you're not house of lords. you're not actually encouraged to make speeches in the of speeches in the house of commons, house of lords, commons, in the house of lords, because we all up on because if we all stood up on our legs and spoke as our hind legs and spoke as frequently want to, frequently as we might want to, nobody ever get home and nobody would ever get home and nobody would ever get home and no business get done. no business would ever get done. so 16 times doesn't seem to me too real question is, too few. the real question is, is he constituency mp? is he a good constituency mp? does he look after the does he does he look after the correspondence that comes in from his constituents, the individual we call individual case work, as we call it, people who write to him it, the people who write to him with problems they get

with problems and they get answers and make answers to jersey and make inquiries on their behalf. of course, he staff helping course, he has staff helping him to mp does . staff to do that. every mp does. staff paid for by the by the authorities by parliament. but does he do that? does he go to his constituents ? is he there on his constituents? is he there on a friday, which he very frequently is? i happen to know , does he surgeries? does , does he attend surgeries? does he after people? that's he look after people? that's what constituency mp is meant what a constituency mp is meant to and i know some of them to do. and i know some of them love standing up all the time and talking in the house of commons. actually, commons. but actually, when you look very often look at the benches very often on tell you there's on the tell you there's nobody listening them. and that is listening to them. and that is not the measure of an mp success worth value. boris remains worth or value. boris remains a truly iconic, very, very significant figure in british politics. he is the person. he is the person who the labour party is absolutely terrified . party is absolutely terrified. well, he's going to respond to that in a second. terrified of he's iconic for the right reasons because he's the person who actually the first politician, the first leader of a political party for decades, who had a direct personal

connection with people and who they felt was authentic and responded to them . and anyone responded to them. and anyone who denies that you would agree misunderstands what boris's appeal is. would you agree with that sentiment? but he appeals to the public like no other? no, not uniquely so. i mean, there've been other very, very popular, charismatic black ministers such well, tony ministers such as well, tony blair, margaret thatcher. these ministers such as well, tony bla good rgaret thatcher. these ministers such as well, tony bla good examples. :cher. these ministers such as well, tony bla good examples. you. these ministers such as well, tony bla good examples. you know,e are good examples. you know, polling suggests. right bring facts into it that most a majority, the british public think that boris is a liar. right. that that is that that their opinion polls on that subject because they've been fed a of lies. well, you know a lot of lies. well, you know and the you know, and i respect the you know, you're you're very loyal and i respect that. and you know, you did very good things in did some very good things in london. government the labour london. government is the labour party. terrified? party. you're terrified? absolutely tell absolutely not. no. i'll tell you labour is you what the labour party is worried something worried about. here's something which very true. the labour which is very true. the labour party is conscious yourself. i'm worried that a large number of people have lost total faith in politics. right. so i know about some internal polling recently

that shows significant number of people in this country think that politicians are all the same . they're dispirited, same. they're dispirited, demoralised , indeed. i suspect demoralised, indeed. i suspect labour's lost your vote forever though. but i think labour's focussed necessarily. okay, i'm not that you know i'm not so kind of i'll never vote for that. i'm not like a robot if, if labour was the party that came up with the things that i felt were the right direction for the company, i wouldn't be adverse considering the adverse to considering them the way consider way that i would consider anyone. i probably anyone. but right now i probably wouldn't vote. there was one or two more. well, you're not alone in and so labour is in that. and so what labour is terrified boris, because terrified is not boris, because i think and reason i actually think and the reason that no longer prime that boris is no longer prime minister, had the largest minister, you had the largest number of resignations in living memory of any serving prime minister. his own side had had enough. not enough. now labour are not scared boris. enough. now labour are not scared boris . they do know, scared of boris. they do know, and is total honesty. the and this is total honesty. the number one people disillusioned with politics. and number two that people want over the next year a half. to hear more year and a half. to hear more about labour's going to do, about what labour's going to do, criticise dislike hear criticise me, dislike to hear about things do and it will. about things to do and it will. but they going to

but what are they going to do about small boats, about the small boats, for example? that you ask example? well fine that you ask that there's the plaid. keir that and there's the plaid. keir starmer mentioned it pmqs this week. i thought was the week. but what i thought was the plan, well, the headline the plan, well, the headline of the plan, well, the headline of the plan more with plan is what more close with france money. france get value for money. well, did tweeting i have to say finally is that in ireland anyway? rishi thanks. i didn't let you give the plan. well the plan that keir starmer talked about at pmqs this week is all about at pmqs this week is all about offices process about more offices to process the paper it's made a the paper backlogs. it's made a big difference. closer liaison with all our french counterparts and actually just engaging more with the system. now i have to be fair again to right? be fair again to rishi, right? he's actually made more progress on this than anyone has for ages, only by giving away northern ireland to the european union are really. that's that's. wow do you think that. yeah, i do i think this deal i'm the end of the only people saying it but i'm happy to say i think this withdrawal agreement lipstick on the pig stuff you know that because the windsor the other

folks services things a framework whatever it's called is a complete sell—out. framework whatever it's called is a complete sell—out . well and is a complete sell—out. well and if it comes to a vote in the house of lords and it may not, but i do, i will vote against it. i do find the labour plan for these burrs. just briefly, what quite interesting what you say quite interesting because so easy because it's so easy to criticise situation. the criticise this situation. the time mess and time it's an absolute mess and if was easy to deal with it, if it was easy to deal with it, it would have been dealt with ages ago and obviously clearly it's then when i hear it's not, but then when i hear the labour as it was cited the labour plan as it was cited by you, the other, everything is already and tested. already been tried and tested. so we're going so right we're going to work more closely with france. what we've will be we've been doing that will be giving tens millions of giving them tens of millions of quail. pretty much quail. we've got pretty much nothing for it. we're going to have resources. and have to put more resources. and to me, just don't see as to me, i just don't see as broadly delegates get a much broadly the delegates get a much more interesting home life. i think. a calculation think. and i did a calculation right in five years. i don't know why i'm interested in figures know figures tonight. i don't know what's with me. it's what's going on with me. it's not like me. but anyway, in five years, number people on years, the number of people on small crossings has gone small boats crossings has gone up the number in five

up 15,000. so the number in five years is going up 15,000% from 299. that crossed . in 2018 to 299. that crossed. in 2018 to 45755 people in 2022. so whatever you want to talk about resources , i don't understand resources, i don't understand what it is that you think people should do. do you just have this warehouse of asylum seeking, processing people and you just every single day you keep recruiting these people more and more and more. you never stop because the numbers increasing, so more needs it. for years, so more it needs it. for years, the focus that's now being brought to bear on it, that's the that's the fact. and the opposition's job is to say, you have been in charge for 13 years andifs have been in charge for 13 years and it's all right now on this conservative party note, it's gone out this week. all five priorities. it'sjust gone out this week. all five priorities. it's just fair to point out that only now, i think, do people, whatever their politics, feel that the prime minister focussed on minister is focussed on it before we all know this, the government's been so distracted by internal fighting. boris didn't really did he really apply didn't really did he really apply himself to this, to be honest, do we think he did, whether he applied to it

whether he applied himself to it or the point is that the or not, the point is that the government's come up with a plan and labour is not and the labour party is not supporting it. the key supporting it. that's the key thing. we'll see about thing. well, we'll see about that. let's see what happens in house of commons. just a quick. yes on to because i need yes on to this, because i need to on to another subject. to move on to another subject. right. party say right. if the labour party say if was a election if it was a general election tomorrow, things are tomorrow, guys, all things are equal tomorrow, guys, all things are equal, what's the labour party? sir up sir keir starmer was going up against sunak all and i'm against rishi sunak all and i'm playing my make believe. now imagine that boris johnson was the leader of the tories. do you think keir starmer would stand a better chance of winning if he was opponent was starmer was if his opponent was starmer or johnson's was if his opponent was starmer orjohnson's ? was if his opponent was starmer or johnson's ? well, want to or johnson's? well, you want to surprisingly frank answer an honest statistics show that sunakis honest statistics show that sunak is a marginally harder opponent . really? yeah opponent. really? yeah interesting. what do you believe in? i'm telling you that in good faith, i always believe every word that comes out of your mouth. except perhaps the thing about oxbridge a minute ago. but that missed or that might just be missed or separate recollection . but i separate recollection. but i will google up recollection as

will google up a recollection as may a very by the way, are you one bofis may a very by the way, are you one boris johnson's one of boris johnson's constituents? you live in the constituents? do you live in the area he indeed your mp? area where he is indeed your mp? do like do you rate him do you like him? do you rate him ? do you think people having a proper deeply unfair or do you proper, deeply unfair or do you think he's letting you down and focussed much the big focussed too much on the big dollar ? which leads nicely. dollar? which leads me nicely. lots of you were getting in touch on that and i'll some touch on that and i'll read some of those out in just a second. but the dollar leads me but the big dollar leads me nicely you this. do you nicely to ask you this. do you think we should have more of a wealth tax, if you like, on the wealthy? biden he says absolutely yes. he's that's what he to do in his country. he wants to do in his country. he wants to put a levy of 25% on america's billionaires . should america's billionaires. should we follow suit? only by gary lineker .

hi, i'm michelle dewberry keeping you company till 7:00 tonight. daniel moylan , a tory tonight. daniel moylan, a tory

peerin tonight. daniel moylan, a tory peer in the house of lords, is alongside me, as is kevin craig, the former labour councillor and the former labour councillor and the ceo of communications company palomar. welcome back everybody . i got an company palomar. welcome back everybody. i got an email. i really meant more chuckles. i would say it. i've just been reading it in the break and it says, hang on one sec because i've got the slowest phone in the world, but i'm too tired to buy a new one. to be honest, it says it's from graham and he says, thank goodness says, michelle, thank goodness that you've got lord david there as opposed to that out debt as opposed to that out of debt misinformed pr bloke. i even know where to begin with that. he's on about braverman, but i just say you're not out just have to say you're not out missing phoned pr bloke and you are not lauded. david so i've got to be frank that a little bit more attention needs paying by you that i got to say, bill, says michelle, did i hear you right at the start? this programme men in scotland to be jailed for a long if they brag about their sexual. yes that is the cut and thrust of the potential i've been explored overin potential i've been explored over in scotland and i'll be

coming to that story before the end of the programme. bill, you sound a bit worried about that. we'll it before we'll be getting into it before 7:00. we're not, andrew says. finally, we have a home secretary that speaks the truth . and as for the civil servants , all i can say is that the truth most heads out real, says michelle. i was a civil servant for 20 years and it was the hardest job i've ever done. and by the way , she says about a few by the way, she says about a few jobs in my day. she says that when she was a civil servant, not a minute was waste and she worked the dwp telephones, worked in the dwp telephones, a huge workload . and she says not huge workload. and she says not a brilliant wage either. i wonder, though, what's your morale like? that's what i was pondering. when you do hear people criticise and you actually think it's fair or not, what else are people saying ? what else are people saying? bofis what else are people saying? boris give. valerie says give. bofis boris give. valerie says give. boris the red card along with gary lineker. wendy says boris is in its capital. she means business. a boris is a gentleman and he's trustworthy . mike says

and he's trustworthy. mike says he's thoroughly principled and honourable . so david says, lord honourable. so david says, lord moylan is not. well, that's better. better than not, graham lord moylan . right. boris lord moylan. right. boris johnson is principled , educated johnson is principled, educated and a gentle man. and ellie made and a gentle man. and ellie made a comment that could possibly got me sued and i managed to stop myself there. so impressed with myself. martha says he's absolutely entitled to earn all of his money. it's just a socialist on your panel. hey, it's boris. and quite frankly, it's boris. and quite frankly, it's because they're all scared of him. well, speaking about earning money, us president joe biden and a controversial tax proposal to congress get this everyone he wants to put a levy of 25% on america because billionaires and it probably won't get through . but it's got won't get through. but it's got a lot of people thinking . do you a lot of people thinking. do you think we should perhaps tax our wealthy, our billionaires that little bit more thoughts, daniel . how many billionaires we got ? . how many billionaires we got? don't know, do you? i don't

know. not many. right and we'd have fewer, wouldn't we, in that all have gone really . so i have fewer, wouldn't we, in that all have gone really. so i think you come. that comes there comes a point. there comes a point where isn't that what you say. solve this for a game, soldiers. i'm going to take my money somewhere else and we can't stop them that. i think them doing that. so i think moderate sensible, moderate moderate and sensible, moderate taxation brings in money taxation always brings in money in the end than rates we had when . i was a child tax on when. i was a child tax on income was 98% at the margin for earned income unearned income and 75% for earned income . of and 75% for earned income. of course, people stop working and all they found lots of tax dodges so we didn't get more complexity in the tax laws for people going around it. one of the best things that happened under mrs. thatcher was bringing the rate of income down the top rate of income tax down from 75% to 40% over a number of years. and tax revenues boomed. we actually had surpluses in those years . do you know how those years. do you know how many billionaires on this country? i don't. i love to do.

you know, i do. i'll come on in. 177 in this country. i say, yeah, that's it. says 177 people. oh i wouldn't a family. oh no i thought was a couple of hundred some of them some of the foreign people obviously. yeah. and we've got some home grown billionaires sirjim billionaires i believe. sirjim ratcliffe a famous businessman ratcliffe, a famous businessman who's money here, he's who's made money here, he's worth more than a billion. why do we want to drive out of the country? don't know. the country? i don't know. the others leave and others can just leave that and take stakes and go. well, take up stakes and go. well, what on earth do think will what on earth do we think will be by doing this? be achieving by doing this? it make that are not make lots of people that are not wealthy feel better about themselves . but we can give them themselves. but we can give them a we could give them a happy pill, if that's all it's about. give them all a happy bill. well i'm sorry. they that i'm sorry. they are found that quite a suggestion, but quite a funny suggestion, but i think this is really right where it's coming from because in america, one of the reasons that biden was elected in personal biden was elected in my personal view, thank heavens , is that he view, thank heavens, is that he managed to bring together a more equitable society with the

politics of aspiration and a desire to get on. and this policy, in my view , right. policy, in my view, right. daniel is making very big faces at me that make big faces the loudest view. so i think this is interesting because you know that the headline, the 25% tax on billionaires is comes from the following the idea of the wealth tax , which has had some wealth tax, which has had some discussion in recent years. and i think you have to be quite careful about it so that you i think you have to be quite carefldisincentivize :hat you i think you have to be quite carefldisincentivize people who don't disincentivize people who want to build business and create wealth, but at the same time, there is a huge inequality in terms of, you know, western societies now buying globally the rich through , the pandemic the rich through, the pandemic got richer and the poorer got poorer . now really can poorer. now really can billionaires anywhere on earth afford to pay more tax? probably yes. billionaires are quite philanthropic as well. many are amazing . bill gates incredible. amazing. bill gates incredible. so many of them show. to be fair, i don't need a tax regime to do more good with their

wealth. that's the bit that i find when it's kind of to me is i do always feel like politics of envy because you have so many people that actually they are like the pledge or like the giving pledge or whatever call it. so they whatever they call it. so they do do lot of yeah, they do do an awful lot of yeah, they do do an awful lot of yeah, they do lot of good with do an awful lot of good with their hard earned cash they'd pay their hard earned cash they'd pay an enormous amount of tax on it so it's kind it already. so for me, it's kind of take more of them, take of like take more of them, take more take more of them. more off and take more of them. and remember writing and i remember someone writing in show once and he said in on my show once and he said it was something along the lines of, you know, i work at whatever supermarket or wherever was. supermarket or wherever it was. and said, i only earn £15,000 and he said, i only earn £15,000 a year or whatever it was. and he so absolutely the he was saying, so absolutely the wealthy need to pay a lot more to help support people like me. well, and he says that's it. and do you agree with. i am i am very interested . i want to see very interested. i want to see more in the detail of this. and as you say, it may not get through the various legislative processes in the states, but i do identify and i feel very strongly i only came off being a councillor in london last year

and you know, of people struggles to survive and so there is an interest in fair yeah they wouldn't raise any money and wouldn't raise any money and wouldn't raise any money because it's a very small number of people and half of them would decamp somewhere else anyway. and what this is, it would raise of them wouldn't it save you say if say let's just around 200 people. it's not just say 200 100 them in your master . yeah that means you going to tax say going to tax want to say you're going to raise you raise raise something you raise something it wouldn't buy it wouldn't buy anything. the amount quite small amount of money be quite small the thing is we are getting the main thing is we are getting to point where we afford as a to a point where we afford as a country the constant demand for free services in this country . free services in this country. and this is a way of the left distracting from it. they're always looking for this magic money tree out there. there's free money lying on the ground. if you only went and got it and nobody would suffer if you went and isn't there. and got it, money isn't there. if it's that easy to pick up somebody would have thought about this before and ask for

biden. biden elected on biden. biden got elected on a platform unifying. that's platform of unifying. that's true, the country unifying true, not the country unifying his own democratic party , which his own democratic party, which is split between a few remaining moderates and some very extreme left wing people. much more extreme than you are. and this is a bid to the extremists and that's quite saying something. and this is a bid to keep the extremists in his own party happy. extremists in his own party happy . he extremists in his own party happy. he doesn't extremists in his own party happy . he doesn't even want to happy. he doesn't even want to implement if you're listening on the radio, you do miss out on some wonderful facial gestures . some wonderful facial gestures. while things have been said on this show that michelle, if it's brief, you can go on, which is very briefly, i think biden got elected because people were fed up at the lack of morality , the up at the lack of morality, the integrity at the highest levels . government. it makes me think of another country , but i just of another country, but i just can't think where. oh well, you can't think where. oh well, you can think about say you can have a couple of minutes. think about it because bill, you might remember, was pondering michelle, you say michelle, what did you say earlier was saying earlier on when she was saying that us scotland men that over in us scotland men could potentially for

could potentially be jailed for boasting sexual boasting about their sexual exploits? i did that you exploits? yes i did say that you didn't miss it and i will be getting into it. are you worried

hello there. i'm michelle dewberry, keeping you company till 7:00 tonight. daniel moylan is the tory peer in the house of lords and kevin craig is a former labour councillor and the ceo of communications company palomar. they are keeping me company until 7:00, right? scottish men listen up all when quite frankly i'm partial to a little bit of about your sexual exploits perhaps in public team—mates. well you might want to pay close attention to what i'm about to tell you, because i proposals have been put forward now for new so—called mr. alternate offences . this has alternate offences. this has been proposed by the snp . they been proposed by the snp. they want to outlaw abusive and,

humiliating behaviour which apparently stops women. i quote fully participating in society . fully participating in society. this could see someone indulging in one of those acts like i don't know whether it's watching in public, talking about your sex life in whatever it is it could be facing up to seven years in jail if this all gets pushed through so it's daniel. well, first of all, it is true that more women are injured and killed by men than men are injured and killed by women. and that's that's the important fact underlying . this and that underlying. this and that that is that that can never be acceptable and never be acceptable and never be acceptable at all. sorry is what i mean. that can't be acceptable. but from that a load of people of drawn the conclusion. but what you've got to do is change the behaviour of men, not in terms of their violent behaviour, but in terms of their speech, their thinking, their behaviour and stuff. that there's push to change the there's a big push to change the equality act, which is a uk act. so as to make misogyny, which is

hatred of women, to make misogyny a crime and to make being a woman what's called a protected characteristic stick. now in scotland they can't change the equality act. it's a uk act so they can have to have their own legislation and that's what they're driving at here. but the moment you say we're going to have an act to do this, you have to say, well, what is misogyny look like? what's the behaviour we are going to behaviour that we are going to outlaw? come up outlaw? and so you come up a long list of stuff i can long list of stuff which i can tell you it's is of like if a man shouts sexually abusive remarks, a women in the streets who a girl does not want to who a girl who does not want to be chatted i mean, how would be chatted up. i mean, how would you want make wolf you do they want to make wolf whistling example, illegal whistling for example, illegal now both. whistling now maybe both. wolf whistling might not be acceptable. i understand all that isn't, understand all of that isn't, but it's quite but i think it's quite flattering . but. no, no, but flattering. but. no, no, but i know that against the stereotype , when you start to engage the criminal law with this, you set up a series of crimes which people in the end stop respecting the law. kevin you know, as daniel says, there is huge problems with the number of

women suffering partner abuse in scotland. you know, one in five, 12% of women experience stalking harassment. 6% of women experience sexual victimisation. this men are never going to get banged up for loudly boasting about sexual conquests. and in scotland the snp will eventually learn, as they saw recently , learn, as they saw recently, that if you bring in legislation is out of step with what the population is broadly thinking, there'll be political consequences . and the reality is consequences. and the reality is there is a problem about misogyny but in it's never going to happen. i'm telling that now that men are going to get locked up for boasting and speaking in a vulgar that just it's so extreme it won't happen. but there is a problem with what used to be the case that you just said not long ago that you wouldn't get a visit from the police you said your police if you said in your workplace that a man was a woman and said they were men and a woman said they were men and a woman said they were men and a woman said they were men and a woman. well, they are. those examples are so infrequent, they get blown up out proportion. and i agree. and

these be infrequent, solitary slip people have be frequently locked up for wolf whistling are you woman at home watching or listening to what do you think do you get whistles? i mean, how is much less of a thing these days? well, maybe i'm just getting older and more unattractive, so don't notice anymore. but i do think it's getting less of a thing. and are you a woman? do you? what do you think? find deeply think? do you find it deeply offensive if? some guy wolf whistles to do get whistles to you or do you get flattered? an flattered? i suppose, and an answer but i guess it answer is ready. but i guess it depends what the guy looks like. and that's really awful and not very feminist to admit. very to admit feminist to admit. but know, if it was someone but you know, if it was someone like david beckham, perhaps, you know sometimes in life you know what, sometimes in life you just need to stop it before you dig yourself into a massive hole. so at the time hole. so look at the time everyone. wonderful. thank you very for time. keeping very much for that time. keeping right. by right. i shall stop there. by the the number of civil the way, the number of civil servants, did you get it right? 510,000. welcome well, thank you . 500. you've got something right on the money. i say i've

all that's all i've got time for. thankfully before i dug a hole that was too big. have a good night. so thank you, gents. and i'll see you back at the same time tomorrow. hello. i'm alex deakin and this is your latest weather update from the met issued amber met office. we have issued amber weather parts of weather warnings for parts of northern ireland, northern england and wales. heavy snow continuing to fall here into the night . this area of low pressure night. this area of low pressure is responsible . the winds are is responsible. the winds are also up as the wet also picking up as the wet weather moves in, hitting the cold air. that's where we're seeing heaviest snowfall seeing the heaviest snowfall starting turn more to rain over parts the midlands evening. parts of the midlands evening. but i say, for wales, parts but as i say, for wales, parts of england and northern of northern england and northern ireland, heavy snow will continue around by gusty continue blowing around by gusty winds. atrocious travelling winds. some atrocious travelling conditions, issues are conditions, power issues are also possible as well as the potential for some rural communities to be cut off by 10 to 20 centimetres of snow, maybe over the hills of northern england, 40 centimetres of snow . in the south it's mostly rain because it's milder here further north for scotland, most places dry, but it could be in dry, but it could be icy in

northern scotland will northern scotland and it will again be below freezing again be well below freezing here on friday. the snow easing by over northern by the morning over northern ireland steadily petering ireland and steadily petering out northern england and out over northern england and wales through the morning as well. still further sleet well. but still further sleet and likely over eastern and snow likely over eastern england well into friday and then steadily pushing a little further south, blown along by a cold wind for many further west, it's a bright, fine day tomorrow. lots of sunshine. but of course, they'll still be quite bit of snow lying on the quite a bit of snow lying on the ground and it will feel cold at four or cells. it's a cold, four or five cells. it's a cold, a feel in the south after things have a bit today. have turned a bit milder today. look this. the blue taking look at this. the blue taking hold the chart on friday hold of the chart on friday evening, there will be a hard frost across the country for the start weekend. start of the weekend. further snow in across snow showers coming in across northern scotland again, potentially icy here. potentially quite icy here. still for many, saturday will be another bright. day as we another bright. fine day as we go through the morning, though, the cloud will thicken with outbreaks coming into outbreaks of rain coming into southwest hail, southwest england. some hail, snow for, wales later for snow for, wales and later for northern ireland. many central and eastern parts will be dry through but as this wet

through the day. but as this wet weather moves further north, the potential snow to potential for a bit more snow to arrive saturday across arrive on saturday night across parts scotland and northern parts of scotland and northern england .

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