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your latest news headlines. good afternoon. it's 3:01. i'm rhiannon jones in the gb newsroom. rishi sunak has agreed to give france almost half a billion pounds over the next three years in an attempt to end the channel migrant crisis. the prime minister held talks with president emmanuel macron in paris today before announcing landmark deal one which will see a new detention centre established france. the joint news conference , the first news conference, the first bilateral summit between the two countries in five years. mr. sunak's says the new illegal migrant legislation introduced this week supports this new deal this week supports this new deal. we're announcing a new detention centre in france, a new command centre bringing our enforcement teams together in one place for the first time and an extra hundred new officers patrolling french beaches , all patrolling french beaches, all underpinned by drones and other surveillance technologies that will help ramp up the

interception rate and the legislation. the uk introduced this week supports this because it's designed to break the business model, it's designed to break the business model , the criminal business model, the criminal gangs and remove pull factors, bringing them to the channel coast. the french will also contribute significantly to funding, with president macron saying isn't simply a deal between france and the uk . i do between france and the uk. i do believe that's the right way . believe that's the right way. approach this migration is a border space. western beckons european union and not france and uk have to work closely in order precisely to dismantle these groups and to be more efficient. regarding this phenomenon . the uk economy grew phenomenon. the uk economy grew by 9.3% in january. the latest from the office for national statistics . a bounce back from statistics. a bounce back from the fall seen in december last yeah the fall seen in december last year. the chancellor says the return to growth , the economy's return to growth, the economy's more resilient, many expected.

ahead his spring budget on wednesday added, though there's still a long to go . the labour still a long to go. the labour leaders discussed his plans to prioritise scottish to boost the economy . sir prioritise scottish to boost the economy. sir keir prioritise scottish to boost the economy . sir keir starmer prioritise scottish to boost the economy. sir keir starmer is in glasgow with shadow chancellor rachel reeves . he says rachel reeves. he says scotland's creativity been held back by governments holyrood and westminster . what i want is an westminster. what i want is an economy in scotland that is forward. we have a mission from a labour government to have the sustained growth in, the g7 for scotland. that would take us hugely forward . the jobs of the hugely forward. the jobs of the future, the skills of the future. at the moment problem we've got is the products 50 is low living standards are low start ups in scotland are and a greater rate than elsewhere in the uk. this is in a scotland , a the uk. this is in a scotland, a great history when it comes to economy. so we want to turn that around . drivers have been left around. drivers have been left stranded for hours with heavy snowfall holding up traffic

still hit the uk overnight causing flights to be suspended and services delayed has fallen trees blocked some lines ? the trees blocked some lines? the met office has yellow warnings for snow and ice in place for parts of the uk over the weekend and people are being urged to only travel if necessary . only travel if necessary. hamburg police have named the man behind a mass at a jehovah's witness in the city as german philipp f. at least eight people died, including a woman and her unborn baby . and they say the unborn baby. and they say the gunman acted alone and later took his own life . gunman acted alone and later took his own life. his gunman acted alone and later took his own life . his motives took his own life. his motives are unknown , they say. the 35 are unknown, they say. the 35 year old was a former member of the jehovah's witness community. he had no criminal record possibly suffered, they say, from illness . and prince edward from illness. and prince edward has been named as the new duke of edinburgh . the title has been of edinburgh. the title has been granted by his brother king charles on the prince's 59th

birthday and will be held for his lifetime. his wife sophie becomes the duchess of edinburgh . this is gb news. we'll bring you more as it. now, though, it's back to our quick. good afternoon. it is fast approaching 7 minutes after 3:00. this is gb news tv online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua. i'm in full patrick christys now. we've got loads to get to, but there's only one place to start. of course it's got to be rishi sunak who's agreed to give france almost half quid, and it kind half a billion quid, and it kind of less when you say 500 million in an attempt the channel in an attempt to the channel migrant , the prime migrant crisis, the prime minister held talks with french president emmanuel macron in today before announcing this a landmark three year deal which will also see a new detention

established in france . emmanuel established in france. emmanuel and i share the same . criminal and i share the same. criminal gangs should not get to decide who comes to our country within weeks of my coming into office weeks of my coming into office we agreed our largest small boats deal and today we've taken our cooperation in to an unprecedented to tackle this shared challenge. we're announcing a new detention centre in northern france, a new command centre bringing our enforcement teams together one in place for the first time and an extra hundred new officers patrolling french beaches , all patrolling french beaches, all underpinned by more drones and other surveillance that will help ramp the interception rate and the legislation the uk has introduced this week supports this because it's designed to break business model of the criminal gangs and remove the pull factors bringing them to the channel coast. now we will always comply , with our always comply, with our international treaty obligations , but i am convinced within them

that we can do what is necessary to solve this shared problem and. stop the boats . well, are and. stop the boats. well, are you impressed ? to get more on you impressed? to get more on the deal, i can speak to our political reporter olivia utley . olivia so just can you just briefly so outline the that he was highlighting so what the deal includes is essentially britain is paying france 478 million over the next three years to fund more policing of the beaches in france and the routes commonly used by people traffickers bringing migrants over from britain to france . a over from britain to france. a new detention centre northern france for mike. so that's tackling the problem upstream as politicians liked it and that is quite a big breakthrough then . quite a big breakthrough then. we've got the technology element drones and other new to try and see what's going on with these migrants and to try and stop them through through

technological means and in some ways it's a really good deal for britain . it's much bigger than britain. it's much bigger than anything been agreed previously. there's very first time that we've seen a detention centre in france paid for. yes some british money. but as we said, it was at pains to point out that the are actually investing more in this than the brits. so in some respects this is a very good deal for britain. the other very good for britain very good element for britain that relationship between , that that relationship between, britain and france is looking far more cordial than it has for years and years and years. so this was the first anglo—french summit for the last years that used to happen every year. but under both liz truss and boris johnson for her relationship had soured such a point that that britain and france of britain and france sort of barely on on speaking so barely on on speaking terms. so this warmer relationship between britain and france could lay the groundwork at some point, but not an eu wide uk returns deal for migrants would be a real win for migrants would be a real win for . the prime

for migrants would be a real win for. the prime minister and for britain because what britain ideally wants eventually is to be able to send migrants come here illegally back to the country . they came through in country. they came through in the eu now we're not there yet , the eu now we're not there yet, but the french have said that they have an ambition towards that. so we are sort of on the first step there. so then lots of big wins for britain there. but it has cost britain a lot. so just to put it into perspective save over the last three years, britain has spent 232 million on helping the french to police beaches and helping the french stop the boats essentially in the next. that's since 2014. so seven years now in the next years, we're going to be spending hundred million on, the same sorts of projects . admittedly, sorts of projects. admittedly, a beefed up versions of the same project . so lots of wins for project. so lots of wins for britain , but it costs us quite britain, but it costs us quite a lot. it might summery but if it works because at the moment we're spending what is 6 billion and actually housing the 50,000 migrants that we have at the

moment in 90% of the a part of not 90% of this country. so if can stop that and it would almost it feels like actually it'd be quite good value for money in the long run . i mean money in the long run. i mean yeah, two and 500 million would be a drop in the ocean. it actually succeeds in stopping the . it's at clear the boats. it's not at all clear that it will, i mean, entirely stop . the boats, i think, is far stop. the boats, i think, is far too to hope. and we do need too much to hope. and we do need too much to hope. and we do need to hear quite a about more to hear quite a more about more details about this detention centre that's going to be central as central in france, because as you say, the moment, are you say, at the moment, are 50,000 migrants being housed . 50,000 migrants being housed. hotels around the uk mean that's up from 2500. i think was just a few years ago . so it seems very few years ago. so it seems very unlikely that the french detention will be able to hold anywhere near that number. but it is definitely a step in the right . and yes, as you say if it right. and yes, as you say if it if it if it really inroads in stopping boats as the prime minister likes to put it, the pilots or students coming out of hq, they know it's popular with the public . then of course it

the public. then of course it would be just a drop in the ocean. it would be great news. and he's slightly the and in a way he's slightly the sickest, almost thunder, because the saying that the customer was saying that we'll the problem, we'll deal with the problem, but then detail . he then never gave any detail. he never does . will the labour never does. will the labour party , in your view, say they party, in your view, say they will be warming to this prospect that the conservative party is coming with things that may coming up with things that may well save them potentially? well does put labour in quite an awkward position because in previous years , as rishi said previous years, as rishi said well the conservative party was determined to sort of own the issue of stopping the boats and generally the party didn't . generally the party didn't. illegal immigration too, because it's a contentious issue . labour it's a contentious issue. labour voters, some of whom believe that we should have more of an open borders policy. so stopping the boats hasn't traditionally been a issue for labour, but the way that labour could always gain ground over the conservatives was to that, well, we'll work closely with the french and both liz truss and bofis french and both liz truss and boris johnson the conservatives

couldn't really counter because as i say , in the last five years as i say, in the last five years relationship with the french have really, really soured. bofis have really, really soured. boris johnson refused to say whether emmanuel macron was a friend interview friend or foe in an interview and on the liz truss, i mean they were literally barely on terms. what wokeist would do terms. so what wokeist would do is essentially avoid the issue of small boats and illegal immigration generally. and if he had to address that, he would say, well, will work with the say, well, we will work with the french feels as french now you say it feels as though rishi sunak stolen his here because he's most certainly working with the french. that bromance looking stronger than ever before . he's got some grip ever before. he's got some grip on these politicians. we what he did to ursula. absolutely turning on the channel. i know . turning on the channel. i know. thank you very much. thank you very get some very much. let's get some reaction new migrants reaction to the new migrants deal by the deal. i'm joined now by the former brexit party mep, ben habib. ben you so much for joining me. ben your first thoughts ricci's plan with thoughts on ricci's plan with macron . i'm afraid i don't any macron. i'm afraid i don't any of olivia's optic . you know, if

of olivia's optic. you know, if you look at the way problem has developed , the more money we've developed, the more money we've paid france greater the number of people crossing channel. and contrary to what the prime minister described, the as it's not a shared problem. there's an asymmetry interests at the heart of this problem . the french want of this problem. the french want the migrants off their shores and they want to . and of course, and they want to. and of course, if they were ever to stop the migrants genuine from crossing the channel, i'll would stop. so it would be turkey and christmas. now i'm. that what? all we have is evidence that paying all we have is evidence that paying to france does not work more than doubling that . i think more than doubling that. i think last year we paid 62 million meant to pay 72 million. this year and that's going to now effectively rise 150 million a year for the next three years. you know more than doubling that is merely fuelling the beast and don't accept for a second either that building a detention in france is going address the problem. i'm the french would love it because it helps them cope with their own issues with

migrants coming into the country , they have a much bigger problem. of course than we do. they've got about 180,000 coming into france, which is a function of freedom of movement. the very rarely talk about that in the uk . but the reason the french, the germans and so many other european countries have such a massive problem with illegal migration is because they've got freedom of movement across continent, which utterly continent, which is utterly barmy. and we, the british taxpayers , are picking up quite taxpayers, are picking up quite a lot of the tab for that. but just coming to the issue in point, which is this new deal with french, don't for with the french, i don't for a second it's going to second think it's going to work. i think that £500 million is going wasted money. we're going to be wasted money. we're going to be wasted money. we're going be exactly where we going to be exactly where we now. fact, we're going to now. and in fact, we're going to in a worse position at the end of this year, because numbers are going even than are going to be even higher than they the other thing they are. and the other thing that prime minister said that the prime minister said quite in quite categorically in his in france that we would not be france was that we would not be breaking any international treaties or laws in order to pass this new illegal migration bill was revealed earlier this

week . that bill was revealed earlier this week. that means he's categorically committed to the european court of human rights and if that is genuinely the british position, then the court of human rights will be to intercede and, overrule british courts when they come to adjudicate whether or not someone's got the right stay here pursuant to this new bill that's been released. so nothing is going to change domestically , legally, and nothing is going to change in our relationship with france. if france was genuine , if france was really genuine, if france was really genuine, if france was really genuine in wanting to help the british stop the flow of illegal, illegal crossings from france into the united kingdom, it would immediately agree the right for us to send these boats back to france to on to these boats in the channel and for border force to take back to france and to deposit them straight back into a french french port. and the question the british taxpayer should be asking themselves is if france prepared to do that, it clearly isn't in good faith. so why are

we spending even penny on trying to cooperate with the french? but some would say that actually they are cooperating because actually they have a problem as well. they're going to have a dedicated force, sort of dedicated force, some sort of kind police that are going to kind of police that are going to deal that specifically. deal with that specifically. and, you know, going to and, you know, we're going to have some sort of relationship of partnership. after all, we are spending £6 billion now. that's on right to house 50,000 asylum seekers in hotels across country . something has to be country. something has to be done, surely is a start and a step in the right direction. but no, no . we finance the creation no, no. we finance the creation of a of this force that , walks of a of this force that, walks up and down french beaches on occasion, slashing the odd dinghy . you know, we help the dinghy. you know, we help the french create that, but it hasn't stopped the flow of these illegal migrants. hasn't stopped the flow of these illegal migrants . and we've now, illegal migrants. and we've now, i think some british members of the constabulary based in france as well . and that hasn't helped. as well. and that hasn't helped. i'm saying is that if you look at the economic of the relationship with france and the

underlying benefits and costs the more money we pay them, the more their incentive is actually to keep the problem going because keeps the money flowing into france and they want to get rid of these people from france themselves. so why they seek to stop them ? all we're doing is stop them? all we're doing is fuelling beast. we've got the economics of this completely back front. the only deal worth doing with france is one which allows us to pick up these people in the channel and, deposit them back in french, bought the fact that the french won't allow to do that. says to me the french not in good faith. we don't need a returns agreement with france . the agreement with france. the people should be allowed to be picked in the channel and picked up in the channel and taken france. that's the taken back to france. that's the only that would and then only that would work. and then the border could actually do its job, these boats, and take straight back to french shores. that i would support that wholeheartedly. but we're to be a down the road more . money a year down the road more. money will sunak pick will be spent rishi sunak pick fights with the labour party and

try distinguish try and distinguish the conservatives from , the labour conservatives from, the labour party the party wishes party as the party that wishes stop and get some stop boats and try and get some electoral advantage out of that. but anyone who's but i think anyone who's actually watching what's going on, member the electorate on, any member the electorate watching what's going on in two years time is going to the years time is going to hold the conservatives fundamentally at fault . stop the fault for failing. stop the boats . what is the benefit? some boats. what is the benefit? some would say it's an international problem and actually we need some sort of international police this can police force and that this can be turning back won't be turning the boats back won't really that much really make that much difference. i respect difference. but i respect your thoughts you so thoughts pent up. thank you so much he's the much for joining me. he's the former party. well, former brexit party. well, joining now , tony smith, cbe, joining me now, tony smith, cbe, who's is the former director general of the uk border force. thank you very much, tony for joining me. okay. so you heard ben he right? and ben said. is he right? and analogy that this is actually a kind of really a football fan actually from is to turn actually from is to simply turn the boats or allowed to the boats back or allowed to return the boats. this would literally it. no, what i think is that actually the border force is doing its job. it's been doing it all along the border can only operate within the legislation . and the powers

the legislation. and the powers that it has at the moment, we don't have the powers or the authorities send people back authorities to send people back to do to france or else we would do that. but do welcome this, you know , and i know because i spent know, and i know because i spent a great deal of time in the home office in border force and the immigration in immigration service. and in my last years and a lot of time with the french, i've said to you before, operate smoothly, we get on extraordinarily well with them. i don't know smugglers. i don't illegal and don't know illegal entrants and they will with us we have they will with us if we have political direction. that's i applaud what the prime minister has done today. he's is a culmination, i think, of a series meetings that have been going on since . he came to going on since. he came to office and since suella braverman to office of trying to bndge braverman to office of trying to bridge this gap by talking the french as being a shared problem. i don't think that always been our political position in the past and i think that this has got legs and i really hope it works. i'm actually quite heartened the fact that we have got this new arrangement . obviously the proof arrangement. obviously the proof

of the will be in the eating, won't it? but i think thus far this is really good move by the british government i'm hopeful that it will help at least to stop the boats or slow the flow of boats, which is our first priority. what do tony and what good does it putting that you can't. now, let's stick to the things he suggested things that he suggested then, because that they've put because said that they've put in 500 which actually 500 million, which actually isn't in my view, isn't that much in my view, if you it's over three you consider it's over three years and the amount that we're spending currently housing asylum we asylum seekers, hotels, if we can in some way, in can reduce that in some way, in any or that, that would any way or stop that, that would be the other any way or stop that, that would be he the other any way or stop that, that would be he talked the other any way or stop that, that would be he talked about other any way or stop that, that would be he talked about wasr kind thing he talked about was a kind of a of joint kind of force that would deal with this on french soil and then a detention tenden soil and then a detention tender. do you think that that is a realistic solution as well or a good start at least ? well, or a good start at least? well, on your first point, i agree your economic analysis and i know because you've just said that, you know, 6 million a day on hotels do the maths. that's 180 million a month. and we're talking about giving the french that if it even does that in a year if it even does that in a year if it even does that 3 billion now that 3 billion a year. now i here asylum system and if

here on the asylum system and if we're going to introduce detention newcomers that's detention camps newcomers that's very very expensive. so i think the costs stack up. if it if it works i think the question of detention centre is really interesting very interested in your watch report nana which came out a couple of weeks ago and spoke to patrick about and i spoke to patrick about where we are now seeing displaced spent by the gangs. they are pushed out they are being pushed out dunkirk much dunkirk in calais much, much down the coast it's down the coast where it's implausible for them to get across channel small . so across the channel in small. so i think they're not hindering 50% right. the 50% disruption. right. the problem that that, you know, problem that is that, you know, the they're going to keep the 50% they're going to keep going going to be hiding in going are going to be hiding in the keep coming. the dunes. going to keep coming. keep really keep coming, coming. i'm really into i say, well what is this detention centre? who's going in it? to it? how long are they going to stay in it and what's going to happen when come happen to them when they come out may decide to out it? now they may decide to move from calais zone move away from the calais zone further the french further into the french hinterland, away hinterland, or better still away into eu . but the french have into the eu. but the french have the same problem as us now, the same problem as us now. now, when removing asylum when it comes to removing asylum seekers from your territory, it's very difficult now because a great many souls in transit

simply won't take them back . and simply won't take them back. and there was also no mention of other safe and legal routes to cross, which ultimately the reason majority of these people are coming via that well, although i'm not sure whether even if we did, they would do that. but that's what the argument is. do you think perhaps there should have been more well. well, more focus on that? well. well, i've always been opposed to safe and , particularly in and legal, particularly in calais or northern, because that's attract that's just going to attract more into northern more migrants into northern france hope expectation france and hope and expectation they'll to get here and they'll be able to get here and disappointed come in disappointed will still come in the won't they? however, disappointed will still come in tithink won't they? however, disappointed will still come in tithink w

long because only long term plan because the only way sure fix this would way for sure to fix this would be we with the be that we would with the french, everybody would go straight same straight back the same as i reached assured that reached out. rest assured that the border force would do that if . they were empowered to do if. they were empowered to do that. absolutely they would, but they're need they're not. but we need political agreement. and that's why i'm really heartened that we are now talking to the are at least now talking to the french eu about these much french the eu about these much bigger issues because . that's bigger issues because. that's the i think in the end the only way i think in the end we're going to crack this. well, i in a way, was in i suppose in a way, ben was in one respect if we turn one respect that if we turn people back and they back people back and they went back to place they'd come to the place they'd come from, they that would they give up. that would probably work. we probably be it would work. so we need there. it's going to need to get there. it's going to take while to tony. take it, take a while to tony. thank you very much for talking to former to me. that's smith, former director general of the uk border force. right. well, you may not. you couldn't have missed much of uk missed much of the uk is under a blanket snow and we sent our reporter hawkins of reporter paul hawkins to some of the places. can't wait the worst hit places. can't wait to chat him that. to have chat with him on that. of is gb views. of course, this is gb views. that'll after this

it's fast approaching 8 minutes after 3:00. this is a gb news. i'm nana akua. now, the trial of the man accused of murdering nine year old olivia corbell is continuing at manchester crown court. thomas cashman is , court. thomas cashman is, charged with the murder of olivia . he was shot inside olivia. he was shot inside a home in last august. now has also been charged with attempted wounding with intent and possessing a firearm with intent to endanger life . he denies the to endanger life. he denies the charges . let's cross to gb news charges. let's cross to gb news is north—west reporter safety reporter who's manchester crown court . sophie, what can you tell court. sophie, what can you tell us? well, this morning the court heard from a witness who can't named for legal reasons that was via a pre—recorded police interview in which the witness recalled exactly what they remember from that night back in august of last year. remember from that night back in august of last year . the witness august of last year. the witness began by saying were asleep, but

they remember feeling someone tapping on leg. they then heard someone . it's tommy. it's tommy someone. it's tommy. it's tommy repeatedly. the witness said . i repeatedly. the witness said. i thought it was a nightmare . they thought it was a nightmare. they then recalled thomas cashman, stuttering with his hands on his head, saying he'd been told by a source that someone was coming for him. the witness told, the police. he's went to get them before they got him. and later that he'd said something along the lines , lad, i've done joey . the lines, lad, i've done joey. i've done joey. the jury then heard that mr. cashman asked the witness for some, to which they obuged witness for some, to which they obliged , giving him a pair of obliged, giving him a pair of navy blue tracksuit bottoms . navy blue tracksuit bottoms. later in the interview, the witness confirmed that a pair of tracksuit bottoms recovered from mr. sister's house were in fact the same pair had given them on the same pair had given them on the night the incident. finally the night the incident. finally the witness recounted their anger , mr. cashman saying to the anger, mr. cashman saying to the police i want to see tommy and,

ask him why he chose to come my house. he's jeopardise everyone else's life just save his own back. else's life just save his own back . now, court else's life just save his own back. now, court has else's life just save his own back . now, court has concluded back. now, court has concluded in manchester for today it's due to resume again on monday morning. we're expecting to hear the other half of the from this witness . what is the sophy thank witness. what is the sophy thank very much for that update. and of course we will you up to date with that as it happens . all with that as it happens. all right. well, there's lots more still to between now and 4:00. find out why . prince edward has find out why. prince edward has received an extra special birthday present from king charles. and there's real treat for you all. you talk lovers how their dogs hate me . i don't know their dogs hate me. i don't know why that is. as we cross along after world's famous crufts dog show. but first, let's get your latest news headlines with rhiannon jones. nana. thank you. is just gone 330, your top stories from the gb newsroom

rishi sunak has agreed to give france almost half a billion pounds over the next three years in an attempt to the channel migrant crisis , the prime migrant crisis, the prime minister held talks french president emmanuel macron and paris today. the pair then announced a landmark deal, one which includes a new detention to be established in france . to be established in france. speaking after the first uk french summit for five years, mr. sunak said. today marks a new beginning in relations between the two countries. we're announcing a new detention centre in france, a new command centre in france, a new command centre , bringing our enforcement centre, bringing our enforcement teams together one place for the first time and an extra 500 new offices patrolling french, all underpinned by more drones and other surveillance technologies that will help ramp up the interception rate and the legislation. the uk has introduced this week supports this because it's designed to break the business model, this because it's designed to break the business model , the break the business model, the criminal gangs and remove pull

factors, bringing them the channel coast. factors, bringing them the channel coast . the labour leader channel coast. the labour leader meanwhile , discussed his plans meanwhile, discussed his plans to prioritise scottish innovation to boost economy. sir keir starmer was glasgow with shadow chancellor rachel reeves. he says scotland's creativity has been held back by governments at holyrood and westminster . drivers have been westminster. drivers have been left stranded for hours . heavy left stranded for hours. heavy snowfall holding . up traffic. snowfall holding. up traffic. storm larisa hit the uk overnight causing . flights to be overnight causing. flights to be suspended and. rail services delayed as fallen trees blocked some lines. the met office has yellow warnings for , snow and yellow warnings for, snow and ice in place for parts of the uk over the weekend and. people are being urged to only travel necessary . and hamburg police necessary. and hamburg police have named the man behind a shooting at a jehovah's witness hall in the city as. german national philip hesse . at least national philip hesse. at least seven people died, including a woman , her unborn baby. police woman, her unborn baby. police say the gunman acted alone. and

later took his own life. his motive unknown. they say the 35 year old was a former member of. the jehovah's witness community tv online and dab+ radio is gb news. now back to nana . news. now back to nana. if you're just joining me. good afternoon. this is the gb news on tv online and on digital radio. well, you couldn't have missed it. if you're especially if you're up north. heavy snow has brought chaos to much of this with parts of it by this country with parts of it by gales blizzards all of that and more than ten inches of snow fell overnight in the welsh village of capel and roads rail lines and airports have all been closed after the uk was hit by storm. larisa, i wonder how long it took them to come up with that name but hawkins , the only that name but hawkins, the only japanese reporter brave to

venture out in the weather and he joins me now from the village of barkers island. is that marcus land in west yorkshire ? i marcus land in west yorkshire? i got that right. marcus land , got that right. marcus land, yeah, i think that's right. i'll be honest . don't i don't know, be honest. don't i don't know, to be honest. i should probably clarify. listen nana, i've got to say, you're saying it's breaking out in the weather. just look at this. look, this is like world hoth, like the ice world of hoth, which only mean something which will only mean something to you're wars to you if you're a star wars fan. fantastic. and so up fan. it's fantastic. and so up here, having a snowball fights , here, having a snowball fights, there's someone coming down the hill he goes on hill here and here he goes on the toboggan and this dog's having fantastic time here, as having a fantastic time here, as well around in the well as jumping around in the snow. everyone's having so much fun here and over here. if pan back round this way, we've got family . you've having family. you've been having a snowball it's kind snowball fight. it's kind a quick word if you come with this with who who who's one with jackie, who who who's one of the dads family he was of the dads in the family he was telling that they went jamie telling me that they went jamie you you went skiing last you when you went skiing last weekend. is that right? we're just a few of our friends. we went wedding anniversary went for our wedding anniversary and so to and and stuff. so went to la and

stuff in south of france. so there were just a bit snow for us to ski on. but we've seen more snow here than we did see snow here than in france . yeah. snow here than in france. yeah. where you went skiing . yeah. so where you went skiing. yeah. so yeah it was pretty good. pretty good to get the skis back. karen chai, have a go . yeah, yeah. so chai, have a go. yeah, yeah. so it's so it's not just the mountains. they've also the quality. that's nice. oh, it's best snow here. yeah, yeah. smiles, british snows smiles, best british snows miles. better that's the line, isn't your valley. yeah. yeah. what have you made about mean obviously having a lot of fun here. is it being disrupted? you mean otherwise a little bit work wise? we just. i work in schools as well, obviously there for as well, so obviously there for me but yeah it's okay. me today. but yeah it's okay. it's stuff . all right. it's great stuff. all right. we'll leave you to then. i mean , snowball song. yeah. , you snowball fight song. yeah. yeah. fight and yeah. well, snowball fight and i don't or so proud of it. don't think or so proud of it. yeah so look everyone's having a lot fun now because the sun's come out and, you know, the roads are a little bit clearer now. they've been gritted at the main roads in the motorways that is there are still problems on

the roads they need the minor roads they need clearing it's going to clearing tonight. it's going to drop to minus seven, minus ten. so problem so it's just so the problem so it's just a being caught in the crossfire. the problem will be ice on the so really dangerous driving conditions, especially across the pennines and course a lot of england. then in fact, there are four yellow alerts in place across a lot of country for, across a lot of the country for, ice. that's going to big ice. so that's going to be a big tomorrow course, when tomorrow because of course, when you skies, looks you get clear skies, looks fantastic. the sun's . but fantastic. when the sun's. but it going to be even it means it's going to be even colder yeah, colder at night. so, yeah, difficult driving conditions . difficult driving conditions. that's just for our guy. that's mine. just for our guy. we add, we we should also add, because we want you something that want to show you something that we earlier, two by the we saw earlier, two guys, by the way, not just snowboarding, way, know not just snowboarding, not tobogganing . we saw two not just tobogganing. we saw two guys the side of the guys skiing down the side of the scammonden dam. have a at scammonden dam. have a look at these . one was snowboarding and these. one was snowboarding and one ski ing taking their one was ski ing taking their time on, their day off from work. they couldn't go into. so they thought they'd get skis they thought they'd get the skis out, snowboard, and then out, get the snowboard, and then ski of the down ski down the side of the down the side the dam . that's the side of the dam. that's another spend time another way to spend your time in wow it is gorgeous, in the snow. wow it is gorgeous, actually, to be honest, but i

bet it's cold. i hate the cold. pull hawkins, thank you very much that's diabetes is national reporter for is out there now you believe it that it almost cost £15,000 a year to put a toddler in nursery. i mean does the government need to step in or should the taxpayer have to pay or should the taxpayer have to pay for all the people to have children? i'm not aware of this is

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channel no, absolutely not. one to be missed. welcome back . to be missed. welcome back. prince edward was given the title of edinburgh, which honours the wishes of the late queen and prince philip . now the queen and prince philip. now the announcement has come when 59th birthday. the decision by charles means that edward's wife, sophie, it had been known as the countess of wessex, is now the duchess of edinburgh . now the duchess of edinburgh. with me now is royal commentator cole. michael thank you very much for joining cole. michael thank you very much forjoining me. that's a lovely title. i did my duke of edinburgh's was very. i'll be honest, i did cheat on myself and i took a cab when it wasn't meant to. but this is not a nobody knows about it. i still got medals but this got the medals but this is a great this is a great honour, though, isn't it really ? this though, isn't it really? this was literally philip's was literally prince philip's big his baby. big baby. that was his baby. that yeah happy that was his. yeah happy birthday. prince edward , you're birthday. prince edward, you're a king. what do you give your baby brother? you give him a royal dukedom . what this does royal dukedom. what this does do, nana, is actually gets away

from the nonsense about wessex because some when prince edward married sophie rhys—jones on a very hot june day in 1999, i was there windsor reporting it for an american network and i told the viewers i said wessex doesn't exist. there is an essex there is a sussex and there's a real middlesex but wessex doesn't exist of the novels of hardy. so this puts that all right because certainly edinburgh exists is built on a volcanic so it's a really solid place and as you say , this is place and as you say, this is the wish of the late duke of edinburgh. he wanted his youngest son to be following his footsteps . of course, the queen footsteps. of course, the queen endorsed , and for a time it was endorsed, and for a time it was on a buckingham palace website . on a buckingham palace website. but then there seemed to be some doubt. but then there seemed to be some doubt . the but then there seemed to be some doubt. the king seemed to be may be favour giving the title

duchess of cambridge of to princess. well that would have been a little bit hard perhaps for to swallow of being trumped by an eight year old princess. but let us say this , nana and but let us say this, nana and i would give him full credit . would give him full credit. prince edward has worked very hard over decades . the princes hard over decades. the princes for the duke of edinburgh scheme. in fact, i used to work for a company that was a major of the scheme and i went to a big fundraising dinners in and birmingham in london and prince edward was always there . so he's edward was always there. so he's worked for this title and, and he deserves it. and i'm sure he will give service a very good service in the way his father did. has the new duke of edinburgh and it's only really when you sort of see him that you realise how hard some of the royals who are very quiet about business, how hard they work because you know he's been working . they do. yeah . they put

working. they do. yeah. they put they put the hours in and they they put the hours in and they they follow and promote all the good causes . the old queen mary, good causes. the old queen mary, who the grandmother of the late queen, she put it to one of her complaints in children. she said in the family we love hospice calls and we are never tired . calls and we are never tired. thatis calls and we are never tired. that is their sense of duty. calls and we are never tired. that is their sense of duty . and that is their sense of duty. and they carry on with it. and let let us be frank about it . they carry on with it. and let let us be frank about it. i they carry on with it. and let let us be frank about it . i know let us be frank about it. i know prince edward reasonably , and i prince edward reasonably, and i remember him when he was trying to make his mark as a media mogul , which to make his mark as a media mogul, which didn't work out too well. he's had his ups and downs, but he's knuckled and he's put his his his shoulder to the wheel and he's done some good for the duke of edinburgh award scheme. and now it's a scheme bears his name or he bears that title. and that seems fit very well indeed and it's a good saying it tidies things up

and it will be proclaimed if it hasn't been already . that is the hasn't been already. that is the new duke of edinburgh and of course sophie is the new duchess of course in her and the last years of the queen's life , years of the queen's life, sophie became very close and was a helpmate to her. the queen? mm they should have given the wessex volumes to the markle's . wessex volumes to the markle's. i should know. that's another one. yeah that's not enough . one. yeah that's not enough. what happens, though , with the what happens, though, with the title then . does the does this title then. does the does this title then. does the does this title then. does the does this title then pass down to his children. and so does that. oh, no, no, no it would revert to the monarch of the day upon the death of prince edward. and how got many more years to come? no, it is not hereditary. and sense and what is hereditary? his son, viscount severn, he has now become earl of earl of wessex. so he's inherited the title of this long place . that doesn't

this long place. that doesn't exist unless you unless you're king alfred. he he was the king of wessex. but that was a long, long time ago. that was the ninth century. but we can we can speculate that. and i'm sure that they will do well. and of course, prince edward is also thought to be said, is in edinburgh today. he's his bit up there. so timing is good. you know , there is great men in know, there is great men in buckingham palace . quite often buckingham palace. quite often get things right. buckingham palace. quite often get things right . they work it get things right. they work it out. what's going to get the headunes out. what's going to get the headlines and what's going to actually resonate with people and why should it not? very briefly then, if i can , one in briefly then, if i can, one in with regard to the titles , of with regard to the titles, of course. so harry and meghan announced the titles for their now the prince and princess. what was that? it was or what was it they not waited till king charles had said something. or was it always that way? i mean , was it always that way? i mean, doesit was it always that way? i mean, does it work normally ? well, does it work normally? well, it's a very perceptive question . at the very second that her majesty died on september

eighth, rather sadly , we miss eighth, rather sadly, we miss her still . they are her still. they are automatically became prince. archie and princess lily bed. but it wasn't formally proclaimed by king. and what has happened here with this a week ago this christening in california at the hilltop mansion fortress of the duke and duchess of sussex, with 30 people in attendance is that they rather pre—empted . they they rather pre—empted. they they rather pre—empted. they they announced in a formal announcement through a magazine that princess lili diana had been christened by the episcopal bauan been christened by the episcopal balian bishop of angeles. so that made it a accompli at the time . the buckingham palace time. the buckingham palace website was referring to her as miss lilibet. diana mountbatten—windsor. but that has now been amended . buckingham

has now been amended. buckingham palace has accepted what has happened.so palace has accepted what has happened. so they have stolen a march. they've rather the king but they were in. buckingham palace can take all these things in its stride, and it will. mm hmm. well, it's not. it makes a mockery of some of the comments that meghan made on oprah with regard to the title, as opposed to what she said true. to what she said wasn't true. she didn't understand any she didn't really understand any of but anyway, didn't of it. but anyway, she didn't know. just didn't know. she clearly just didn't get did she didn't get it. did she? she didn't know what . no. that was very, what that. no. that was very, very unfortunate, very unfair , very unfortunate, very unfair, and should have been properly retract it, because the system was set up by. king george, the sister , was the late queen's sister, was the late queen's grandfather in 19 oh 17. he issued letters patent which that the in future the grand child of the in future the grand child of the monarch of the day would alter become a prince or princess that would be their styling. so it was nothing to do with any slight of any kind. and it certainly has absolutely

nothing to do with race . and so nothing to do with race. and so to raise that subject , which is to raise that subject, which is very, very unfair and i no, none of you agree with me. it's a horrible slur to make because it's easy to make and it's almost impossible to refute because you have to prove a negative. and i think throwing that around of racism is very unfair and very unwise and i think more and more have come to regard it as something that should not done. well, i mean , should not done. well, i mean, still on their worldwide privacy tour, still on their worldwide privacy tour , michael. so let's hope tour, michael. so let's hope they enjoy it . michael cole, they enjoy it. michael cole, thank you very much. he's a royal commentator . you just join royal commentator. you just join me. welcome. and what is coming out to 49 minutes after 3:00? this is now a survey by save the children to suggest that more than half mothers with children age 11 or younger have had to cut their working hours due to the expense of child. now, this comes a day after another comes as a day after another report found that the average annual cost of a full time

nursery place for a child two in great britain is almost £15,000. with me now is the financial journalist sara benwell, who is the mother of an eight year, eight month old, eight year old baby. crikey. so sara , listen, i baby. crikey. so sara, listen, i know first hand how expensive and childcare is as a single . know first hand how expensive and childcare is as a single. i know i had to take out loans , know i had to take out loans, get it all done . sara, why is it get it all done. sara, why is it so expensive ? it's just so expensive? it's just ludicrous . i mean, it is ludicrous. i mean, it is ludicrous. i mean, it is ludicrous . and the averages even ludicrous. and the averages even hide some of the numbers. i've been looking at child care provision me for fatalities , my provision me for fatalities, my daughter and it's outrageous. you there's naomi that you know, there's one naomi that costs £71 for half a day and only 120 for a full day. so it's like £19,000 for half days or £30,000 for a full day's, which is, you know, more than the average person earns that huge. i there's a things i mean, there's a few things that going on here. there's that are going on here. there's a of provision. a massive lack of provision. there's the fact that government funding match funding doesn't actually match up free hours nurseries up to the free hours nurseries have to have to provide . so when

have to have to provide. so when they offer government funding, they offer government funding, they underfunded loads of they up underfunded loads of nurseries are closing loads of loads of childminders are closing there's an awful lot of pressure in terms of what they have with in of the have to keep up with in of the early years provision and the guidelines they have to . there's guidelines they have to. there's ratio issues. the whole thing's a massive mess and it's completely prohibitive and it's terrifying and you look the terrifying and you look at the numbers just think, numbers and you just think, well, no wonder so many are struggling wonder so many struggling and no wonder so many women being forced out the women are being forced out the workforce they don't want workforce when they don't want to it's disjointed i think to. it's so disjointed i think part of this is the short termism, our politics that you do for years and then suddenly it's another government, another one. these days of one. although these days of being what's 12, 13 one. although these days of being what's12, 13 years being for what's12, 13 years and there's still managed to mess it up now come up with anything that's of any any anything that's of any real any real they real. what do you think they could do if you're looking at it all, says a financial journalist? because i think, wow, £71 to half a half a day. these minted. but these people must be minted. but they're not. the nurseries are struggling . so can be done struggling. so what can be done to fix it ? that's the real

to fix it? that's the real something about it. it sounds like nurseries, should be minted, but they're not, you know, childcare providers are not paid nearly enough the people who actually work in the cottage not enough. i mean, cottage are not enough. i mean, it's say what can be it's hard to say what can be done. guess we to look at done. i guess we need to look at europe we have of europe because we have one of the childcare the most expensive childcare rates in and what's rates in europe and see what's working well in other countries. looking at business, looking at fuel better fuel bills, looking at better funding, expand in tax funding, perhaps expand in tax free childcare . those are things free childcare. those are things that the government needs to look about. look quite carefully about. well, speaking so making well, we're speaking so making sure, i think there's an sure, because i think there's an awful middle earners who awful lot of middle earners who are squeezed a are being squeezed and that's a real huge as well. real huge problem as well. looking , there's a lot looking at that, there's a lot that can be done. it just needs, as you say, kind of comprehensive policy. it needs to termist. well, it to be long termist. well, it seems a like robbing peter seems a bit like robbing peter to so what they're doing is to pay. so what they're doing is they're kind they're paying you to kind of stay in and they're going to give a little bit of money so that you can pay for the childcare rather allowing childcare rather than allowing you then taxing you you to go to and then taxing you from the you're making it. from the that you're making it. it just seems a very backward and an illogical way because

ultimately i understand that women have staying at home as a of this would if were working contribute i think it's fine % of contribute i think it's fine% of the gdp is what they were which is a massive contribution and quite significant . yeah. i mean quite significant. yeah. i mean inactivity is a massive thing and.the inactivity is a massive thing and. the government has sort of have sort of recognised this, but then they had that much was it last month whether we're going to write letters to women to encourage them back to work? we don't letters. we want we don't need letters. we want to to work. we to come back to work. what we need a complete overhaul of need is a complete overhaul of childcare provision. so it's simple, straightforward , simple, it's straightforward, it's cost effective, it's safe, there's all of these things i think it almost needs, like taking apart from the ground up and rebuilding because what there is at the moment is fit there is at the moment is an fit for and not for purpose. and that's not a slight on. the nurseries themselves, whom themselves, many of whom were wonderful a on the wonderful as a site on the system, the way that it's funded, also fact that funded, and also the fact that somehow be somehow this all seems to be women's problem , women's women's problem, women's problem, stack the cost problem, when we stack the cost up against salary this up against women salary this it's look good basically it's it all look good basically ridiculous. and so how are you coping it what's your thing do

you work you're doing the childcare or what what what happens it . yeah so my happens with it. yeah so my partners in paternity leave at moment which has been great about shared parental leave in fact, which taken advantage of about shared parental leave in fact,hasich taken advantage of about shared parental leave in fact,has beenken advantage of about shared parental leave in fact,has been great.vantage of about shared parental leave in fact,has been great. i'm age of and has been great. i'm freelance so i have a quite a lot of flexibility. she's going to nursery for me, it's going to be expensive. we prepared be expensive. we are prepared for but but it is it is for that. but but it is it is hard at cost of living crisis to try and find the amount money try and find the amount of money that any families being that the any families being asked to find to look after their children at work the their children at work and the thing is you know i'm a self—employed if i don't self—employed person if i don't work for four years she work for four years until she goes is goes to school my business is gone. me out of the gone. but that's me out of the workforce forever. so i can't do that. to that. so i'm having to work slightly odd hours, i'm having to slightly on days, you to work slightly on days, you know, kind to know, while we kind of get to the where gets her 15 the point where she gets her 15 free at point i'll free hours, at which point i'll get easier but it's get a little bit easier but it's not you know, we will not great, you know, we will cope, hard and cope, but it's hard work. and i have admit even though i knew have to admit even though i knew childcare was expensive, even though i'd mentally prepared for childcare being expensive, when i when i first started i saw when i first started costing up nurseries near me and i saw how much they were i was

horrified. it's more than private school. yeah, i know. yeah, and got yeah, you just. and you've got a partner well, i think those yeah, you just. and you've got a part|are well, i think those yeah, you just. and you've got a part|are in well, i think those yeah, you just. and you've got a part|are in the ., i think those yeah, you just. and you've got a part|are in the single|k those yeah, you just. and you've got a part|are in the single parent; who are in the single parent situation sara, thank situation as well. sara, thank you much . good to talk you so much. good to talk to you. sara benwell. she's you. that's sara benwell. she's a journalist now, one a financial journalist now, one of the greatest talk events in the world is back in birmingham this week. i know animals, dogs hate me. why? how nice is second day of crufts where 18,000 canine contestants are competing for all sorts of prizes? joining me now from crufts is gb news is west midlands reporter , jack west midlands reporter, jack carlson. jack, come on, talk to me about it. what kind of a day is it? so far and what's happening . well, it's incredibly happening. well, it's incredibly busy here across over around 130,000 people are set to pass through these halls over course of the four days of the event is on today, the arena, we've had some agility, had some of the musical dogs which work with a routine , but we've also got over

routine, but we've also got over 200 breeds on display here at crufts. and i'm with one of them now. the greats, british bulldog, and i'm with lorraine, who's the for secretary bull dog breed council. lorraine tell me a little bit about what makes the so great the is so great because it's a wonderful old family pet. it's actually lovely person. it's a little bold and courageous. but as a wonderfully affectionate nature , they have affectionate nature, they have two people from a really good breeder and that our job today here is to tell people where to buy their dogs from . what are buy their dogs from. what are the things that people should look out for when buying a dog , look out for when buying a dog, particularly a bulldog, purple dog? the main thing you need to know is these dogs have to be health tested. you've got to buy from health tested parents. really important that their pet was tested, which is the thing that most people worry about and sort freeze but sort of called freeze but actually that can breed but do you need to buy them first tested parents they're scored 012 or three you're looking to

really buy a dog from as a reward one parent so they say you should never work with animals me a bit about about phoenix and looking after him because a lot of people are struggling with money at the minute what's what's the situation in money now the thing is you buy from a good breeder and you could breathe it will help you all way. phoenix is 81. so as you can see, she's rather just a native of york microphone . she will eat probably. it costs me probably about £30 a month to feed a bulldog . so you month to feed a bulldog. so you need to buy again a good feed , need to buy again a good feed, but you can buy a reasonably pnced but you can buy a reasonably priced food if you bought from a good breeder, they'll always support you. they'll always a dog back. if you can't in the cost for a dog, you get to agree to you give back to a breeder will always help you out and tell me about what phoenix and the other bulldogs you've got here have been entered into here

in terms of the competition across, william , he's across, we've got william, he's across, we've got william, he's a going to be in veteran a he's going to be in veteran and yes , today we had all and yes, today we had all brindle puppy boy duncan . he'll brindle puppy boy duncan. he'll be in puppy dog on sunday i the ring thank you so much for joining me this the events continue here across with more agility tomorrow and of course on sunday the big one best in show where we'll find out of all the dogs entered here at across which one takes the prize. thank you very dak prescott carson is there across the west midlands. reporter this is a gb news. cat rishi sunak has promised to give france almost half a billion pounds to end the tunnel crisis. but it work ? and this but will it work? and this funding some good news for chancellor jeremy hunt ahead of next wednesday's budget . stay next wednesday's budget. stay tuned to find out more about this nana akua. this is a bit live on tv online and our digital editor as well . you can digital editor as well. you can stream the show live on youtube or download the gb views

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and entente renewed with that . and entente renewed with that. those are the words of rishi sunak as he met with macron today and they discussed the migrant . today and they discussed the migrant. there are today and they discussed the migrant . there are talks . £500 migrant. there are talks. £500 million plus a new kind of detention centre in france . but detention centre in france. but could we see manage to pull off the incredible and the unbelievable and actually stop the boats which is what everyone's . then of course everyone's. then of course jeremy hunt has a pre—budget apparently. i don't know whether i should give it away. we are not in recession, which is a good thing. jeremy hunt and his budget will be as they were discussing it out on the 15th. so we'll talking the so we'll talking about the what's on in this country with

regard to that. then, course, regard to that. then, of course, prince edward is given the title of duke of edinburgh and his wife sophie given the duchess edinburgh on his 59th birthday, brought it to him by the queen and prince philip. and then later on the show, we'll discuss whether lineker should be sacked after all his little outbursts on. twitter is it time for the bbc to stand up to him show it's balls and get rid of it. bbc to stand up to him show it's balls and get rid of it . as if balls and get rid of it. as if he can get in touch via the usual way gb views activities at at gbnews.uk or tweet me at gb news. i'm a queer, but now it's time for latest news headlines. not a thank you very much. good afternoon. it's 4:01. i'm tatiana sanchez in the gb newsroom, rishi sunak has agreed to give almost half a billion

pounds over the next three years. that's in an attempt end the channel migrant crisis . the the channel migrant crisis. the prime minister held talks . prime minister held talks. french president emmanuel macron in paris today before the landmark deal which will see a new detention centre established in france . the joint news in france. the joint news conference followed first bilateral summit between the two countries in five years. mr. sunak the new illegal migrant legislation introduced this week supports this new deal. legislation introduced this week supports this new deal . we're supports this new deal. we're announcing a new detention in northern france and you command centre, bringing our enforcement together in one place for the first time and an extra 500 new officers patrolling french beaches all by more drones , beaches all by more drones, other surveillance technologies that will help ramp up the interception rate and the legislation the uk has introduced this week supports this because it's designed to break the business model of the criminal gangs and the pull

factors bringing to the channel coast the french also contribute quote significant jointly to funding with president saying this isn't simply a deal between france and the uk do believe that's the right way to approach this migration is a border space. western balkans european union and not just france and uk have to work closely together in order precisely to dismantle groups and to be more efficient. regarding this phenomenon . and regarding this phenomenon. and the uk economy grew by nought point 3% in january. the latest data the alliance shows a bounce back from the fall seen in december last year. the chancellor says the return to growth proves the economy is more resilient than many. growth proves the economy is more resilient than many . ahead more resilient than many. ahead of his spring budget on wednesday, he added still a long way to go . the labour leader has way to go. the labour leader has discussed his to prioritise

scottish to boost the economy . scottish to boost the economy. the keir starmer is in glasgow with shadow chancellor rachel reeves. with shadow chancellor rachel reeves . he says scotland's reeves. he says scotland's creativity has been held back by governments at holyrood and westminster . what i want is an westminster. what i want is an economy in scotland that is bursting forward. we have a mission labour government to have the highest tain growth in the g7 for scotland. that would take us hugely forward with the jobs of the future, the skills of the future. at the moment the problem we've got is the productivity is low living standards are low start ups in scotland are failing to a greater rate than elsewhere in the uk. this is in a scotland has , a great history when it has, a great history when it comes to our economy. so we want to turn that around . while to turn that around. while drivers were left stranded for hours this morning, heavy snowfall holding up traffic storm larisa the uk causing flights to be suspended and rail services delayed as fallen trees blocked some train lines. the

met office has yellow warnings for snow and ice in place for. parts of the uk over the weekend and people are being urged to only travel if necessary . only travel if necessary. hamburg police have named the man behind a mass shooting at a jehovah's witness in the city as german philipp f. at least eight people died, including a woman and her unborn baby . police say and her unborn baby. police say the gunman acted alone and later took his own life . the gunman acted alone and later took his own life. his the gunman acted alone and later took his own life . his motives took his own life. his motives are still unknown . they say the are still unknown. they say the 35 year old was a former member of the community. he had no criminal record and, possibly suffered from . mental and prince suffered from. mental and prince has been named as the new duke edinburgh. the title has granted by his brother king charles on the prince's 59th birthday, and he will hold that title for his lifetime . his wife, sophie, lifetime. his wife, sophie, becomes the duchess of edinburgh . this is will bring you more

news as it happens . now it's news as it happens. now it's back to nana . back to nana. good afternoon. is fast approaching minutes after 4:00. this is gb news tv online and on digital radio. i'm not a kweer and we've got lots to get through as ever. but there's only one place to start and that with rishi sunak who has agreed to give france almost half a billion pounds in its latest attempt to end the channel migrant crisis , the prime migrant crisis, the prime minister held talks with french president emmanuel macron in paris today before the landmark three year deal, which will also a new detention centre established in france. emmanuel i share the same belief . i share the same belief. criminal gangs should not get to decide who to our country. within weeks of my coming into office , we agreed our largest

office, we agreed our largest ever boats deal and today we've taken our cooperation to an unprecedented level to tackle this shared challenge. we're announcing new detention centre in northern france , a new in northern france, a new command centre bringing our enforcement teams together in one place for the first time and an extra 500 new officers patrolling french beaches , all patrolling french beaches, all underpinned by more and other surveillance technology that will help ramp up the interception. right. and the legislation the uk has introduced this week supports this because it's designed to break the business model of the criminal gangs and remove the pull factors, bringing them to the channel coast. now we will always comply with our international treaty obligations . i am convinced that within them that we can do what necessary to solve this shared problem and the boats . an problem and the boats. an entente renewed, i think or his words. well, joining me in the

now is our political reporter olivia utley. olivia. so if you could just outline what these put this plan , what was he put this plan, what was he saying? so over the next three years, britain is to give around 500 million to france to help the mission of stopping the boats and are a number of ways they're going to do that. one of them is to pay for a special caucus, essentially of french policemen to be patrolling the beaches, something that we've already invested in and beginning to show dividends, but perhaps as much as some conservative mp hope. the perhaps the biggest investment is in this migration migration detention centre in france . and detention centre in france. and this is the first time that britain will paying for a detention centre of kind actually in france . now is a big actually in france. now is a big breakthrough because as the sort of the ideal thing with this migrant problem, it's not the problem upstream. that's what we keep from keir starmer. but he

doesn't often give very much detail on what that involves. well, a detention centre actually in france it's stopping the problem upstream . so there the problem upstream. so there is definitely some good there for the prime minister for britain at large and of course perhaps the biggest of good news is the soft power element because this warming relationship. but ships between france and the uk is like nothing we've seen in in about a decade. we to have these french anglos once a year. we now haven't had one for five years. the relationship between britain and france almost sort of broken down and the fact that it's started up again on such firm footing, it seems we saw countless hugs between the prime minister . countless hugs between the prime minister. the president is really good news for britain because it also sets the ground if like for the possibility of a return deal for eu wide uk returns deal for migrants who've

come to the uk to be returned to. we're not there yet , but it to. we're not there yet, but it feels like the ground laid for that. so that's of the outline of the deal on the summit in general of for the french, the big win is £500 million, which shouldn't be dismissed lightly. in the last seven years britain spent 232 million on helping the french police, the beaches and attempting to intercept those migrant crossings before they get into the channel and the next three years we'll be spending 500 billion. so that just gives you an idea the scale of this new but essentially it will be pleased with this afternoon went the fact that we got the french president to say it's ambition to get a return up and running between the eu and the uk is really very good news and migrant detention centre which will be front page news tomorrow definitely helps the prime minister in his mission to sort of show to the country that

he's the one who has the capable bility and the and the willingness to stop the boats potentially . keir starmer potentially. keir starmer doesn't say anything because he feels that all the policies have stolen from him, but then he hasn't got power to do hasn't really got power to do anything anyway. thank you, olivia. have a chat with olivia. let's have a chat with rebecca jane. she's the deputy leader the former leader of ukip, the former brexit party mep ben habib told me an hour ago that deal won't make any difference all. do you think he's right? make any difference all. do you think he's right ? absolutely think he's right? absolutely firmly. support ben habib. great guy and he's completely correct so rishi sunak for is officially the worst negotiator in the world. and i'll tell you why he gives millions of pounds to a country for a deal that country then the deal. so i know what we'll do give them even more money. there is no returns that have been guaranteed with this deal have been guaranteed with this deal, but he's already pledged 500 million. obviously half a billion pounds of our money, and he's not even thought about the

specific details. it this detention centre, this apparent going to solve all of the problems how many people can it hold because ? i've from hold because? all i've seen from rishi sunak come the conservative is a lot of conservative party is a lot of pr soundbites on. their redemption tour. they constantly keep on saying we're going to do this we're going that we this we're going to do that we so do earlier this so well do it earlier on this week saying how were going to stop illegal from coming to the country . we saw boris doing that country. we saw boris doing that a ago with rwanda plan a year ago with rwanda plan and that failed too. you don't look at details , but of course at the details, but of course they're up they're going to go cosy up france give him half a france and give him half a billion pounds. but some would say that it is a start mean look, he's warming of relationships. it's got to be a good thing because ultimately there's been a stalemate . what there's been a stalemate. what is it , five years? and in that is it, five years? and in that time seen problem just time we've seen problem just escalate. know we've had covid escalate. i know we've had covid know that came in know the things that came in between. relationship between. but a bad relationship with is not a good thing. with france is not a good thing. and what we see what was alluded to is that this was a relationship partnership relationship or a partnership between the eu because between the and the eu because this is this is how it was

framed. surely that has to be better than an alternative. i have not of not having that relationship. and if is a better alternative, what you be? alternative, what would you be? we don't have relationship. what we have is them half a billion pounds. they're not doing this . pounds. they're not doing this. they want to help the relationship with doing it because the money. because they want the money. activists alternative is we activists the alternative is we take this under our control invest that money with ourselves once we leave echr , we're never once we leave echr, we're never actually going to solve the problems . so actually why don't problems. so actually why don't we start looking that then we start looking at that then we need be holding in offshore need to be holding in offshore shipping containers that have been adapted to humane conditions , not letting them get conditions, not letting them get to show , but relying on to our show, but relying on france, consistently fail is france, who consistently fail is all time and. time again is all the time and. time again is not going to solve this problem whatsoever . mhm. well there was whatsoever. mhm. well there was no mention any safe and legal routes which would have. i would like to have heard more about that. think that more that. do you think that more safe routes will actually safe legal routes will actually help problem or is help solve the problem or is that talking and actually that just talking and actually just a smokescreen for the reality that that's not going to

work ? i think so my problem is work? i think so my problem is with the safe legal routes suggestion britain is broken, we can't cope . we are the size of can't cope. we are the size of our own ship. our ship is sinking because you can't keep ploughing more and more people into our country. we don't have the services, we don't have the structures we don't have the education, the health, the housing for them. we can't really look safe and legal routes right now. we to have a complete look. we have to have all the countries handle the situation because right now we can't handle our own country. we can't handle our own country. we can't have our own people and we can't have our own people and we can't support so safe illegal routes lovely idea in the future right now that should not be focus i'm afraid. but everything you said would lead to the fact that we're of looking after ourselves. therefore better ourselves. so therefore better off with the eu, looking after , off with the eu, looking after, you that's i'm you know. that's what i'm saying. that we can't saying. you said that we can't have. but it sounds you. we have. but it sounds like you. we don't appear to have the ability have. but it sounds like you. we don't a|after to have the ability have. but it sounds like you. we don't a|after our1ave the ability have. but it sounds like you. we don't a|after our own the ability have. but it sounds like you. we don't a|after our own interestsy to look after our own interests . and the way i'm looking at it, it our

it doesn't look like our politicians are are able to do that. but i mean , your view. that. but i mean, your view. you're correct. so we right now on the conservative leadership, we can't handle the situation we need an alternative party to step in you actually have a tough stance and be able to properly this situation rishi sunak has absolutely no idea on what's. every 10 minutes he changes his mind. we heard three weeks ago how he wanted to wave three 95% of applications for five countries rishi sunak conservatives have no idea what they're doing. but of course going to say that because i'm the deputy leader of ukip, we do know what doing? we have a better plan we have a proper manifesto and we're scared to say the tough stuff . rishi sunak say the tough stuff. rishi sunak more interesting we can cosy up with and i'll say no more about that. with and i'll say no more about that . well, i mean, he's managed that. well, i mean, he's managed cosy up to ursula von der leyen . i mean, you saw the pussycat eyes and then he's done the same thing with macron. mean, look, if works, it works. but we'll

if it works, it works. but we'll . you very . rebecca jane thank you very much for talking to me. she's the of ukip well, the deputy leader of ukip well, joining in the is ivan joining me in the studio is ivan samson, an immigration samson, who is an immigration lawyer , one of this concept , the lawyer, one of this concept, the nofion lawyer, one of this concept, the notion of being able to we should see as current plan, which is stop people from actually being able to claim asylum and therefore be to then hold them for i think it's 28 days and then send them back. is this even a realistic proposition, seeing they proposition, seeing as they can't to rwanda can't even get anyone to rwanda 7 can't even get anyone to rwanda ? look this illegal ? no. look this illegal immigration bill is illegal in itself . it breaks three articles itself. it breaks three articles within the european on human rights. but article two, right to life, article five, right to liberty and article 13 is to consider asylum applications properly. it also the refugee convention because it makes irregular to claim asylum unlawful, so it's not going to get off the ground . i think what get off the ground. i think what mr. sunak wants to do is to send somebody to rwanda. he's got all

his eggs in one basket. if can do that. he believes that that will stop people from coming . i will stop people from coming. i don't think it will never go and maybe he should. bruma mance between macron and sunak is not not the answer the coastline that you to patrol is too large it's you cannot patrol it . the it's you cannot patrol it. the only thing that will work is what before which is and what worked before was agreement between france , between the uk between france, between the uk and, the eu, the dublin convention. that means anyone who hasn't claimed asylum in france and tries claim asylum in the uk will be sent back. now, if we have that type of agreement that france agrees that if anybody comes on small boats will get sent back. why would you set off from france if you know that you're going to be sent to france, if you across, why would you set off think that the french would be up for creating similar agreement even outside fact that we're not

within the eu because that would be good for them as. within the eu because that would be good for them as . well it be good for them as. well it would away the draw would take away the draw to their borders i'm wondering their borders so i'm wondering why what they are sort of why they what they are sort of skirting around the edges and coming it money coming out is it the money do you france has shown you think? look france has shown that it hasn't protect at its border. we've seen french police officers ushering onto the boat. you've seen those images . the you've seen those images. the deal needs to be done with the itself, not just with france. did you know that for 10,000 person in the uk we have seven asylum applications . in the eu asylum applications. in the eu it's 14, it's asylum applications. in the eu it's14, it's double. if it was 16th on the list of asylum seekers . but a lot of those seekers. but a lot of those countries and i hear people comparisons, a lot of those countries example comparing comparisons, a lot of those countfrance example comparing comparisons, a lot of those count france and mple comparing comparisons, a lot of those count france and these comparing comparisons, a lot of those count france and these countries| us to france and these countries are vastly bigger ours. so i don't think 10,000. so it's . don't think 10,000. so it's. like you need agreement with the eu that if you come to france on the borders you must claim asylum in france . once you've asylum in france. once you've done that and your refugee , you done that and your refugee, you can come to the uk afterwards .

can come to the uk afterwards. you've got family. if you haven't , you can't. and the eu haven't, you can't. and the eu disperse those people evenly , disperse those people evenly, the eu states. but what's stopping them from? why do you think they don't want to do that and macron detailed relate to it that this is not a deal with just france to deal with the eu that's what he said so that's presumably a similar that would be heading with be of where we're heading with this well it's this do you think. well it's politically it's political jeopardy because nobody france does seekers . it's does want asylum seekers. it's we an asylum system we don't have an asylum system as of 7th of march from the 7th of march. you cannot claim asylum in the uk if you come an irregular route. so we are actually de facto outside the refugee convention as of the summer. but okay, fair enough . summer. but okay, fair enough. the big deal about being outside that cares so what the harm that it causes to the most vulnerable but but if you're vulnerable you cannot find seven grand or whatever is to get on a boat and come across. look i get it we have deals with the places where we know there are definitely wars and we've created and wars and we've created safe and legal but you're saying legal routes but you're saying

the vulnerable people a lot the most vulnerable people a lot of the people i'm seeing on those boats, being those boats, i'm not being funny, using my eyes. a funny, but i'm using my eyes. a lot of them look that vulnerable. fine. we've got vulnerable. fine. and we've got the send them back. let's the law to send them back. let's do punish do that. well let's not punish genuine asylum when we're not doing that, looking people doing that, we're looking people who across on boats who are coming across on boats who are coming across on boats who of money to do who spent a lot of money to do that , to come to this country. that, to come to this country. they people have money and they are people have money and means connections to means and connections be able to do we need to stop do that. so we need to stop because harming because it's actually harming the people are getting it the people who are getting it when making for when it's making less space for those people and why we should be focusing on not the ones coming about there is no space for now you you've for those people now you you've taken in way have taken away that in what way have they away? because if you they taken away? because if you come irregular route now, you come on irregular route now, you cannot asylum uk you cannot asylum in the uk you can't do it. well, no, you can't. you when you say a regular route do you mean i mean coming across without directly coming across without directly coming from your country. the only way you can claim asylum of the 7th of march is if you come directly from your country to the uk and that's only you do

that by a safe and safe legal route . even if you come with route. even if you come with a fake passport, which you could before , you can't do that. you before, you can't do that. you shouldn't be able to come with fake passport. i'm not going to know. you can under the refugee convention. that convention. in fact, that be taken the convention. taken out of the convention. what is that about? what on earth is that about? people fleeing persecution for lives. right. so if they use a fake passport, that's with their saving their lives . and that's saving their lives. and that's why they're doing it. so you're saying that people should the refugee convention allows people to come with fake passports? absolutely okay. well, i think i'd probably look at that and think, okay, maybe there's some other way of doing that because fake don't is fake passports, i don't think is a great but also, i don't a great thing. but also, i don't know full detail. it there's know the full detail. it there's obviously other implications. and time i might obviously other implications. and as time i might obviously other implications. and as a time i might obviously other implications. and as a good time i might obviously other implications. and as a good thing,i might obviously other implications. and as a good thing, but ght obviously other implications. and as a good thing, but so: see that as a good thing, but so what outside convention? it what for outside convention? it means that we will not accept refugees ? could we not have our refugees? could we not have our own convention accept refugees, but we may not we might change the rules that we have if we had that position in world war ii.

we wouldn't have accepted many not jewish people that came to live here, which we accept all that quite rightly . and you're that quite rightly. and you're saying that we should accept anyone at all? that's did i those words and they say, well , those words and they say, well, no, i didn't say those. we won't no, i didn't say those. we won't no, we won't you why couldn't we create our own convention though and will deal it. and decide how we will deal it. i'm just asking all there any other countries outside the refugee convention? it is left to all. there bella. bella to us all. there bella. bella bella, russia, belarus . russia bella, russia, belarus. russia is a so we'd be in with those laws. okay. anybody else? not that i'm aware of. that's any of it's okay because so we'd be in the same camp as putin. well thought he learned bella bella russia for before the situation what were they inside or outside the convention. they've never . the convention. they've never. they do not. yeah, they do not accept asylum application . okay accept asylum application. okay so part of this convention is accepting refugees. okay. so let's say we stay within the convention surely you should be able to call elements of the needs to suit where you are your country, so that within that convention you can stay. but i

mean, feels like an immovable mean, it feels like an immovable thing. just when were in thing. just like when we were in the you couldn't the eu where you couldn't actually your own actually kind of have your own take something. there has to be. let me give an example is this some we've we've carved some leeway we've we've carved let me give you an example. we have out and we've have carved it out and we've accepted 154,000 people from accepted 154,000 and people from ukraine, i we would have done that in our of a convention in . that in our of a convention in. the since 2014 to 2021. that's less than all of asylum applications of any country then the amount of ukrainians we've accepted . yes. but don't you accepted. yes. but don't you have to look at the situation in the circumstance of country the circumstance of the country itself, they're itself, circumstances? they're white they're brown. the white and they're brown. the difference what. and so you're different. so you're saying we've ukrainians we've accepted more ukrainians because they're white than . i'm because they're white than. i'm going to stop you on that because i think that's that's disingenuous. well if you look at the amount of refugees, the people taken in terms people that we've taken in terms of and legal of immigration and legal immigration , we have taken in immigration, we have taken in more people who are of african and indian, all other than we

have in this country. if you're if you're just going to say we have taken a lot more. and so i don't really think that's a fair comparison. the camera angle , comparison. the camera angle, the television set, a days ago, robert jenrick on tv said, yeah, that we are close . these people, that we are close. these people, we have a lot in common with but with we have there with ukrainians we have there are neighbours , they're human are neighbours, they're human beings just like not just one iranians. that doesn't mean just people come from iraq and iran. so you're being persecuted. you're equating that with . and i you're equating that with. and i don't think that's fair because as i said we've taken in over a million people who've come from other the world, not other parts of the world, not necessarily from europe, actually the in a actually being within the in a sense, we are taking on white without any sort of checks and balances, whereas now we're not playing ties people are playing with ties and people are in prioritising in europe, we're prioritising all over the world and actually being out of eu enables being out of the eu enables us to africa and all the to trade with africa and all the other parts of world rather other parts of the world rather than forced to be or than being forced to be or making that we put making sure that we put ourselves close proximity . i ourselves in close proximity. i don't see any homes for afghans

and i certainly don't see any homes syrians . and i certainly don't see any homes syrians. but we have homes for syrians. but we have we have the look, look, i'm we have the uk. look, look, i'm knocking your knocking you tweeted what your claim so he's a it claim was right. so he's a it was right to do. these are was the right to do. these are different schemes based on different schemes based on different i think different situations. i think it's disingenuous. different situations. i think it's dimejenuous. different situations. i think it's dime giveyus. different situations. i think it's dime give you the compare let me give you the figures give the figures. we give you the figures. we give you the figures. figures. figures. i'll think the figures. so ukrainians. so ukrainians , so ukrainians. so ukrainians, syrians and, other countries in the middle east, they account for 40,000 only of asylum applications . that's a fraction applications. that's a fraction of the number of ukrainians we've taken. and also from hong kong , which we've taken. and also from hong kong, which again is a visa system . have you seen what's system. have you seen what's going on in ukraine at the moment? look i don't think that the thing equating of the whole thing equating of colour and things relevant colour and things is relevant think look at the think you have to look at the situation the ukraine is situation and the ukraine is being to smithereens with being bombed to smithereens with what, 40 million people living in it's massive in that country? it's massive country landmass. country with a huge landmass. it's surprise that we would it's no surprise that we would have taken more people. yemen has smithereens. has been bombed to smithereens. yes been being yes how long yemen been being bombed for a number of years. bombed? for a number of years. and over time, we've taken and over that time, we've taken on of who to come

on a lot of who want to come here yemen. let's be. yeah, on a lot of who want to come hthink yemen. let's be. yeah, on a lot of who want to come hthink need men. let's be. yeah, on a lot of who want to come hthink need toen. let's be. yeah, on a lot of who want to come hthink need to read�*t's be. yeah, on a lot of who want to come hthink need to read the )e. yeah, on a lot of who want to come hthink need to read the asylum, i think need to read the asylum statistics because i think you'll find as i said to you in between 2040 and 2021, we took less refugees entire world than the number of ukrainians we took in 2022. those are facts. i was a government figure think it's funny patronising if you say i should go and what i'm saying is just on a layman's terms and a normal as somebody looking at it is that there is a horrendous war happening in ukraine. we can is that there is a horrendous war itappening in ukraine. we can is that there is a horrendous war it in)ening in ukraine. we can is that there is a horrendous war it in front] in ukraine. we can is that there is a horrendous war it in front of] ukraine. we can is that there is a horrendous war it in front of me.'aine. we can is that there is a horrendous war it in front of me. no, . we can see it in front of me. no, i agree. we've made a so people come ukraine, for all come to ukraine, i'm for all i don't you need to then say don't think you need to then say well haven't taken well in yemen we haven't taken more it's because more yemen. and it's because actually just to deal more yemen. and it's because actuteachrst to deal more yemen. and it's because actuteach situation to deal more yemen. and it's because actuteach situation as deal more yemen. and it's because actuteach situation as decomes with each situation as it comes and try to do the and you know we try to do the right right. well, right thing. right. well, anyway, thank you very much, sir. to to you. sir. it's great to talk to you. i that. i hope you i enjoyed that. i hope you enjoyed you enjoyed that. right. thank you very enjoying it, very much. you're enjoying it, too, ivan thompson. too, that is of ivan thompson. he's immigration lawyer, he's an immigration lawyer, right? all of right? well we're all sick of heanng right? well we're all sick of hearing economy hearing news on the economy aren't economics aren't you? but our economics editor , liam halligan has got editor, liam halligan has got some news. he's going

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just coming up to help us for this is gb news now in the face of severe global challenges , the of severe global challenges, the uk economy has proved more resilient than many expected , resilient than many expected, but there is still a long way to go the words of the chancellor jeremy hunt this morning as the economy shows signs of bouncing back gdp, the sum total of all transactions in the economy unexpectedly grew 0.3% in january, following a point 5% contraction. the month before and had to break it down for us and had to break it down for us and some sense of what i just said as i read and have no idea is economics business editor liam halligan with the . money liam halligan with the. money yeah. yeah. you read something you think what the on you could do this with me right back with and explain these numbers called

gdp domestic product and what it means is that all the transactions in the economy and everything else that happens in a particular month and that's the amount of gdp. the amount gdp goes from one month to the other. gross or nancy other. that's gross or nancy gross . and actually, even a lot gross. and actually, even a lot of people have been saying the uk is on its uppers. the uk economy is on its uppers. the bank of england treasury, the office budget , they've all office of budget, they've all been saying, haven't they we're going into recession , going to going into recession, going to be really gloomy and all the rest of it. and i have to come on, to report that stuff. on, have to report that stuff. so really for to come so it's really nice for to come on a friday afternoon on on a friday afternoon and reports out this reports are numbers out this morning. official numbers that are actually pretty good we're seeing of seeing the green shoots of economic recovery and put them on a graphic for you nina . so gb on a graphic for you nina. so gb news radio listeners can bear with us. there go. the with us. there you go. the economy returns to growth gdp in december 20, 22 it december 20, 22 fell. it contracted by 0.5. almost all economies except yours truly thought that contraction was going to continue. but look, in january 20, 23, the latest

figures show that gdp actually increased 2.3. and that's not a bad increase . and if you break bad increase. and if you break those numbers down, it is a bit of a mixed picture. but service sector there that accounts for big chunk of the economy . that's big chunk of the economy. that's 0.3% growth. transport and storage at 1.6% in january. we have not any movement. all they've all been on strike now. but thing is, there were strikes in december and there were many fewer in january. and so fewer strikes in january. and so we back and also a lot of we got back up and also a lot of freight . you lot of freight. you had a lot of shipping on, a lot of shipping going on, a lot of logistic, those locked down supply problems are really now starting ease. she had a big increase in transport storage but look their production that fell that's mainly manufacturers still suffering with high energy costs they're commercial activity down 0.3% and construction and down 1.7. that's because the housing market is rocky. so a lot of the big house builders are just sort of they they do go slows anyway to keep prices high but now they're doing an even bigger go slow is much much

slow but look this is much much better in the round than anyone thought it would be. i'm not saying not a cost of living crisis. i'm not saying that households still households aren't still suffering their shopping suffering with their shopping baskets energy firms baskets, energy bills, firms suffering well. but it's better than expected . what that means than expected. what that means is in the budget on wednesday , is in the budget on wednesday, jeremy hunt should have a bit more to play with. this has been a bit more growth, a bit more tax revenue. he has not spent so much energy subsidies for much on energy subsidies for households firms because households and firms because wholesale energy prices have come down. and that means there may room for, if not some tax may be room for, if not some tax , then maybe you can shelve tax rises and then maybe a bit more room. he won't want to talk about this money for wage settlements to settle some those industrial disputes. so i that's not too complicated but it's actually pretty good news there is light at the end of the economic tunnel in my view. i've been saying for on gb news you can see green shoots of recovery coming through and these official gdp numbers which came out this morning, i've been

talking in here gb news all talking in here on gb news all day . they show that day today. they show that they're is indeed signs of a decent economic recovery . well, decent economic recovery. well, let's hope that jeremy hunt doesn't them with a 25% tax on businesses. thank you very much live. that's liam halligan . he's live. that's liam halligan. he's our business and economics editor . our business and economics editor. right. though there's still lots more to come now. and five, find out prince edward is receiving extra 59th birthday present from king charles. and i'm really looking forward this i'm really looking forward this i'm going to be discussing whether gary lineker should been should be sacked after . whether gary lineker should been should be sacked after. his latest shocking outburst on. but first, let's get your latest news headlines for today on a sanchez. news headlines for today on a sanchez . a thank you. good sanchez. a thank you. good afternoon . this is the latest afternoon. this is the latest from the gb newsroom rishi sunak has agreed to give france almost half a billion pounds over the next years in an attempt to end channel migrant crisis , the channel migrant crisis, the prime minister held talks with .

prime minister held talks with. french president emmanuel macron in paris today. the pair then announced a landmark deal one which includes a new detention centre to be established and speaking after first uk french summit for five years, mr. sunak said marks a new beginning in the relations between the two countries do believe that the right way to approach this migration is a space. western balkans, european and not just france and uk have to work closely together in order precise only to dismantle these groups and to be more efficient regarding this phenomenon and the labour leader has discussed his plans to prioritise scottish innovation to boost the economy . sir keir starmer is in glasgow with shadow chancellor rachel . with shadow chancellor rachel. he says scotland's has been held back. he says scotland's has been held back . governments at holyrood, back. governments at holyrood, westminster westminster drivers

have been left for hours this morning . heavy snowfall holding morning. heavy snowfall holding traffic. storm larisa hit the uk overnight . flights to be overnight. flights to be suspended and rail services delayed as fallen trees blocked. some the met office has yellow warnings for snow and in place for parts of the uk over the weekend and people are being urged to only travel if necessary . tv online and dab necessary. tv online and dab radio. this is gb news. it's back to nana . back to nana. welcome back to gb news. i'm not a choir in for patrick christys is now the trial of the accused of murdering nine year old olivia corbell is continuing at manchester crown . thomas cashman manchester crown. thomas cashman is charged with the murder of olivia, who was shot inside her

home in liverpool last august. now cashman also been charged with attempted murder, wounding with attempted murder, wounding with intent and also possessing a firearm with intent to endanger life . he denies the endanger life. he denies the charges . endanger life. he denies the charges. sophie read endanger life. he denies the charges . sophie read reports charges. sophie read reports from outside crown court. well morning. the court heard from a witness who can't be named for legal reasons. that was via a pre—recorded police interview in which the witness recalled exactly what they remember from that night back in august of last year. the witness by saying they were asleep but they remember feeling someone tap on their leg. they then heard someone saying it's tommy . it's someone saying it's tommy. it's tommy. repeatedly. the witness said, i thought was a nightmare . they then recalled thomas cashman, stutter running with his hands on his head , saying his hands on his head, saying he'd been told by a source that someone was coming for him . the someone was coming for him. the witness told the police he's went to get them before , got went to get them before, got him, and later he'd said something along the lines , lad,

something along the lines, lad, i've done joey . i've done joey. i've done joey. i've done joey. the then heard that mr. cashman asked the witness for some clothing, to which they obliged giving him a pair of navy tracksuit bottoms . later in the tracksuit bottoms. later in the interview , witness confirmed interview, witness confirmed that a pair of tracksuit bottoms recovered from mr. cashman's sister's house were in fact the same they had given them on the night of the incident. the witness recounted that with mr. cashman, saying , the police, i cashman, saying, the police, i want to see tommy and ask him why he chose come to my house. he's jeopardise ised everyone else's life just to save his own back. now court has concluded here in manchester falls today. it's due to resume on monday morning. we're expecting hear the other half of the from this witness as of course safe haven . a christian preacher had his conviction for mis gendering. a trans woman overturned. his lawyer is going to talk us

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gb news. hello. i'm estimate based on phillip davis. this saturday we've got an exclusive interview with the chancellor. i'm not going to have another leadership campaign. never again if i do. never again. we'll be asking him about corporation tax rises, energy prices . we'll also be energy prices. we'll also be asking him about his time. secretary of state for health and chair of the health select committee and whether or not we should a fierce. should have had such a fierce. it's that you can't it's an interview that you can't mr. join us this saturday 10 to 12 on for gb news people's. channel it's fast approaching 43 minutes after 4:00. this is a gb news on tv online on digital radio. i'm not a square. now, prince edward been given the title duke of edinburgh honours the wishes of the late queen and prince philip. the announcement comes has come on edward's 59th

birthday and the decision king charles, means that edward's wife, sophie, who's been known as the countess wessex, is not the duchess edinburgh. the new duke and duchess saw this thing at a bit today. so with me at the moment is grant. he's a former royal butler grant form , former royal butler grant form, former royal butler grant form, former royal butler grant form, former royal volunteer king charles. i just i stop that i charles. ijust i stop that i a story about this this is great as i learned from michael wessex does not exist it's a it's a made up do you know it interesting because when they created the title obviously i think it was arranged at that point that later he would get the title duke of edinburgh because obviously wessex was created by the queen for that. the point when he married sophie, obviously wessex and now the titles have obviously been changed which a lot of people kept saying to me, do think it wouldn't because obviously the queen passes . temba the

queen passes. temba the arrangement was it was asked to both the queen in the late prince philip duke once they'd both . obviously need a bit of both. obviously need a bit of time to get a good past before . time to get a good past before. these titles were passed on, but it was the way she's the queen and i think it's i think it's really nice the title gets to continue and to be really exact. it's the fourth creation of the title. around since title. so it's been around since 1726. well let's be honest. who else could they give it to anyway? because there's nobody else . i mean, there else really ever. i mean, there aren't others can't it aren't any others can't give it to andre . no. well enough queen to andre. no. well enough queen victoria gave traditionally the second son always was given title the duke of york which i only discovered today but queen victoria gave her second son instead of gigi . she created him instead of gigi. she created him duke of edinburgh. but of course in this instance, the education was already held by the late prince philip and some listeners, viewers may not realise late queen was , a realise late queen was, a duchess of edinburgh that was her title. she was the duchess of edinburgh before she became

queen. but as you said, nobody really for the title to be passed so it was passed on tonight. so it was said, you know, the titles have been given out and that's it done you like. well listen grant thank you so much we'll come back to you very shortly. but we have some breaking news on gary lineker . gary have some breaking news on gary lineker. gary lineker is to step back from match of day until back from match of the day until an agreement is reached his an agreement is reached on his social media use. bbc statement follows an impartiality row over comments he made criticising government's new asylum policy . government's new asylum policy. now yesterday's news that the should be well let's get back to grants are out now i think we were talking to grant let's back to grant so we were talking to grant out of regard the royal family and of course, the so just breaking news story going to go straight back into that and discuss what's happening . and discuss what's happening. gary lineker, i won't ask for your . i might do at the your reaction. i might do at the end of this carry with what you're about royal you're saying about the royal family carol. no, i family yes, sorry, carol. no, i was just saying that it is not surprising this has happened on

as far as the royal cases go. this was last thing to be done. and a lot of people be expecting this and obviously taken this and obviously it's taken place thought place because they thought better i think . it's better time than i think. it's been described as the best gift from king his brother. so from the king to his brother. so it's probably the right time to do it. as i said enough times past, i can't this. not past, i can't believe this. not that over six months, that it's over six months, seven months. queen so i think months. and the queen so i think they felt that was an they always felt that was an attempt pass the time for it to be passed on. well, i think it's they've rightly said they deserve because frankly, those two work extremely hard and quietly behind the scenes and they don't make big old song and dance about it and then whinge about the position that they've got . they do. and interest and got. they do. and interest and that's not many years ago they were the first to royals. i actually actually before they were married, i met both of them and thought they were fantastic and thought they were fantastic and interesting as you said, they're very hard working royals. i mean, when you look at the unelected members at all times think princess anne was always kind of top of that

always kind of the top of that list, by the list, closely followed by the king, but obviously then and the wessex were equally hard what and were very very close as where other members of the family but close to the queen then prince philip you know they had a very strong bond and it turns out really well with both of them and with sophie. and i think, you know , i'm sure this think, you know, i'm sure this was it was already planned, but i'm sure, they were really happy with the decision that would carry on that title . and it's carry on that title. and it's nice to see that that is going to carry on. but the other thing to carry on. but the other thing to quickly mention, there's another part to this, because their son who is now the heir of wessex , it's possible that when wessex, it's possible that when he turns 18 that from what i is that the title prince and his sister princess could be passed on to them because the arrangement made for them. was it when they turned? it's something that will then be reviewed. see their reviewed. so could see their children hrh is as well as children being hrh is as well as their grandchildren the king. so

there's more come i could say that well and just briefly your reaction on the news. of course, harry and meghan then officially gave the titles. their children, even. gave the titles. their children, even . i would have thought that even. i would have thought that the king might have done it that way and there might have been a bit more pomp and ceremony. but the did it in the only way the us did it in the only way they how in their one two they know how in their one two seater mansion some sort of i seater mansion in some sort of i don't know. let's also take on this with interest not a because they have said it's the birth right now . yes. it's what george right now. yes. it's what george created. was that the children and grandchildren of the monarch get the title. that's absolutely correct . but to say it's the correct. but to say it's the right it's really the king's decision . it's going to be decision. it's going to be obvious. it's got be put to him and he's got to and he's decided to follow what his great grandfather put into . he's grandfather put into. he's always want to continue that. i also see it now. i know once again an olive branch it's been offered and can i hope that maybe is this is received and this helps can amend these wins but none as all know you just

don't know what's going to happen next that i'm hoping that this this gesture may actually help help improve things but who knows you can't tell now i don't i don't know. i think that they did this thing where pre—empt things instead of doing it in the nice official way. and except, , i know except, you know, i don't know why keep that. god, why they keep doing that. god, howard always a pleasure. howard is always a pleasure. thank joining thank you so much for joining me. you, thank you me. thank you, nana. thank you so much. right. and just to recap that news, recap on that breaking news, gary, from match gary, is to step back from match of the day until an agreement is reached show me you reached on it. so show me you use statement said that it use bbc statement said that it follows impartiality row over comments he made criticising government's new asylum policy . government's new asylum policy. so i mean this huge news broke a few moments he is stepping back and of course gary lineker did that he would be presenting match the day that we would see him on saturday but that is not the case now. this was the tweet that monica on tuesday which caused such and this is me, i'm quoting it now, there is no

influx. we take far fewer refugees and other major european countries . refugees and other major european countries. this is just an immeasurably cruel policy directed at the most people in language. this is similar to that used by germany in the thirties and i'm out of order so of he was criticised by prime minister and he's criticised by keir starmer as well and other people, other jewish faith groups have come out and criticised him as well, saying that analogy, which of course throws germany was germany really actually diminishes the reality of that time and that issue really be making such comparisons. gary seemed to think that it was quite a casual retort and that actually , you retort and that actually, you know what he said , cannot know what he said, cannot believe the amount of coverage that it's getting. but i suspect the bbc does have a duty of care with, particularly in regard to impartiality. and i people do say, oh, he's a sports presenter . but as tim davis said

previously , he made another previously, he made another previously, he made another previous , which they did say he previous, which they did say he had impartiality guidelines . tim had impartiality guidelines. tim davie had said that the reason they did was because he is a very prominent bbc presenter and he has an extra responsibility . he has an extra responsibility. so just to recap, the gary lineker will not on air on saturday presenting match of the day until , he saturday presenting match of the day until, he comes up with it until they discussed his impartiality and also his tweets will come up with talk about more and more of that at 5:00. but moving on to this story, a christian preacher who was convicted and, reported to the government's counter—terrorism after mass gendering, a woman has won his appeal. after mass gendering, a woman has won his appeal . david has won his appeal. david mcconnell was convicted of causing alarm or distress following an incident in june 20, 21. he's had his conviction quashed yesterday. david mcconnell's lawyer, michael phillips , joins me now. mcconnell's lawyer, michael phillips , joins me now . so phillips, joins me now. so really good to talk to you. actually because this is a thing that people say misgendering is gendering, as though it's some illegal that you have done. is

it illegal misgender someone to start with ? i would certainly start with? i would certainly argue it is not. and there is no law in country which says that you cannot use it. you cannot misgendered you have to use their preferred pronouns. there is no law which exists which says that . so it's quite an says that. so it's quite an finding that we're in a situation now that very often we have laws which are on face value, a good laws they could be used in appropriate ways for drunks coming out of a football match or out of a pub and that and there is a public order situation . but for these laws to situation. but for these laws to be misapplied in way in which they have been misapplied on this and this particular occasion and on other is extremely other occasions is extremely disturbing because there was a what law was it that they used then to even this any further? because to me it seems absolutely ludicrous that that could get to a point where it's actually going court of law actually going into court of law . it is public , right? 1986. . it is the public, right? 1986. and so section four of the pubuc and so section four of the public order act says that if you use threatening, abusive or

, insulting words, behaviour which causes harassment, alarm or distressing, do so intentionally. you can be guilty of an offence and in fact the word insulting was taken out section five, but for some reason it's been left in in section four, which is quite concerning . i think that, you concerning. i think that, you know, how could it ever be a crime to insult anybody? the judge look, crime judge said, look, it's no crime to insult unless you do it intentionally . so if in this intentionally. so if in this particular case my client was found to have said something and the judge said was insulting. however he was just simply quoting from from the bible. and he was he talking about his faith, which he genuinely believed. and so in those circumstances, it could be circumstances, it could not be held crime but the fact held to be a crime but the fact of the matter it's of the matter is, it's frightening obvious frightening because it's obvious that the crown believes he should be arrested. the police believe he should be prosecuted the prosecution service the crown prosecution service believe the right believe, that this was the right thing and also a judge in thing to do. and also a judge in the magistrates as well the magistrates court as well believed guilty of believed that he was guilty of offence. it took going up to offence. so it took going up to the crown which on appeal the crown court which on appeal for them to realise that this was an what amazing waste

was not an what an amazing waste of time . i'm sorry, but it just of time. i'm sorry, but it just seems we're wasting our time. if you've seen the family courts and the mess that is in the fact that they've actually time to be deaung that they've actually time to be dealing with situations like this is clearly could this is clearly you could actually misgender someone by accident and then to go for accident and then fit to go for this ricochet to happen this whole ricochet to happen for to end up in the crown for it to end up in the crown court seems ludicrous actually, in about flag? in my view. what about the flag? there's lgbt flag outside the there's no lgbt flag outside the police am i? am police station. am i? am i correct? what was that about? yeah. so in fact, david went, up to the police station where he'd been arrested, he'd taken a couple of years ago, and he to revisit an outside the police . revisit an outside the police. they had this pride flag which, you know , a political symbol. you know, a political symbol. and it's very concerning because a lot of people , you know, don't a lot of people, you know, don't necessarily agree with the ideology which is behind , you ideology which is behind, you know, and you know is when this isn't necessarily about lgbt people. because how many people do i know that that , you know,

do i know that that, you know, well known people who would say pride is one thing and being lgbt is another thing. there are people who are heterosexual who support pride . there are people support pride. there are people who are homosexual who don't like pride. so it is a political movement. and to align yourself so closely with it is too alien . it's a large part of society who do not feel comfortable with some of the things that that particular movement has stood for. the thing with it for. you see, the thing with it is you said it's political and political should not be made by a police because it's like taking the knee it's like rainbow it's all that stuff . i rainbow it's all that stuff. i don't want to say in my policing i want to know that some people because my house, they'll be there there'll be catch the there and there'll be catch the criminals to see criminals i don't want to see them how political them showing how political they are have are or how much they have affinity a certain affinity towards a certain cause. want to be cause. i just want them to be remain neutral and, remain completely neutral and, get on with doing the job. so we'll the upshot of this then so your client been let go this is nothing there's no nothing further. there's no further action or may move to something else so they trying again? no what's outcome . yeah.

again? no what's outcome. yeah. for this particular offence he has been acquitted and said he can't be prosecuted for it again. which is which is wonderful for him. but the thing is thatit wonderful for him. but the thing is that it chilling is this is that it a chilling effect him even in cause effect on him even in cause people afraid to non people are afraid to use non preferred pronouns because they're afraid that they may get into be in into trouble. the they may be in of court and so and sure when he goes out next time he's going be fearful he's going to be fearful that somebody is going to that somebody else is going to make and he's make a report to police and he's going to go through this going to have to go through this whole palaver again for on bail and having to do community service, then service, which is then overturned on lot of overturned and so on is a lot of strain on an individual. and you can that . oh, michael. well, can see that. oh, michael. well, listen, you need to listen, michael, you need to make your. david you need make it your. david so you need to make your mission to take out silly language in this legal silly language in all this legal stuff going on. stuff and stop going on. hopefully it will back to hopefully it will come back to you hopefully sorted out you and hopefully you sorted out david lawyer . you david mcconnell's lawyer. you very really good to to very much really good to talk to you. michael i will you. michael phillips. i will say right now, a say it is michael. right now, a reminder, huge breaking news reminder, the huge breaking news that time that we brought you short time ago, will not ago, gary lineker will not present of the day until present match of the day until an reached his an agreement is reached on his social use on tuesday.

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gb news clock. i thought it was another thing you caught. good afternoon. this is dvd on tv onune afternoon. this is dvd on tv online and digital radio. i'm in for patrick christys now. so much happening. gary lineker breaking news. gary lineker will not be presenting match of the day this saturday after tweet he sent on tuesday was it will seem to be breaching the bbc guidelines when he the immigration policy to germany then on the way we'll also be looking at sue next with macron

in anglo—french agreement they had to discuss and this afternoon in the summit where they came up with a plan which would cost us here in the uk £500 million it's half a billion. but it would also see a detention centre in france, plus a specific police force to police . and looking at the police. and looking at the weather as you know, all across the country, there , the big the country, there, the big freeze we'll going all over the country, looking at how the weather is affecting them, in particular, if you have an electric car, how does big freeze affect you? we'll electric car even work in the big freeze and. of course it is the ninth birthday of prince edward and he's been bestowed the honour which was given to him by the late queen and prince philip. the title of duke of edinburgh and becomes the duke and duchess, even of edinburgh. so that's on the way . as if they

so that's on the way. as if they get in touch in the usual way. gbviews@gbnews.uk or tweet me at gbviews@gbnews.uk or tweet me at gb news. but first, let's get your latest news headlines . your latest news headlines. donna, thank you and good afternoon. it's 5:01. your top story this on giving you some breaking news in the last few minutes. the bbc says gary lineker is to step back from presenting match of the day until agreement has been reached on his social media usage. it follows comments he made on twitter. criticising the government's new as silent policy, he likened the language used to that of 1930s germany when statement the broadcaster said mr. lineker would step back until . there is an agreed and until. there is an agreed and clear position on his use of social media. they added we never said that gary can't a view on issues that matter to him but he should keep well away from taking sides on party

political issues or polluter controversies . while rishi sunak controversies. while rishi sunak has agreed to give france almost half a billion pounds over the next three years in an attempt to end the channel migrant crisis. the prime minister held talks with french president emmanuel macron paris today before announcing the landmark deal before announcing the landmark deal, which will see new detention centre established in france. the joint news conference followed the first bilateral summit between the two countries in five years. mr. sunak's the new illegal migrant legislation introduced this week, supports this new deal. announcing a new detention centre in northern france . new centre in northern france. new command centre bringing our teams together in one place for the first time and, an extra 500 new officers patrol in french beaches all underpinned by more drones and, other surveillance technologies that will help ramp up the interception rate and the legislation the uk has introduced this week supports because it's designed to break

the business model of the criminal gangs and remove the pull factors, bringing them to the channel coast. while the french will also contribute significantly to with president macron saying this isn't simply a deal between france , the uk, a deal between france, the uk, i do believe , said the right way i do believe, said the right way to approach this migration is a border space. western balkans, european, and not just france and uk have to work closely together in order precisely to dismantle these groups and to be more efficient. regarding this phenomenon phenomenon , the uk phenomenon phenomenon, the uk economy grew by nought point 3% in january. the latest data from the office for national statistics shows the bounce back from the fall seen december last yeah from the fall seen december last year, the chancellor says the return to growth proves economy's more resilient than . economy's more resilient than. many expected ahead of his spnng many expected ahead of his spring budget on wednesday . he spring budget on wednesday. he added there's still a long way

to go . the labour leader has to go. the labour leader has discussed his plans to prioritise scottish to boost the economy . sir prioritise scottish to boost the economy. sir keir prioritise scottish to boost the economy . sir keir starmer prioritise scottish to boost the economy. sir keir starmer is in glasgow with shadow chancellor rachel . he says scotland's has rachel. he says scotland's has been held back by governments at holyrood and westminster. what i want is an economy in scotland thatis want is an economy in scotland that is bursting forward. we have a mission from labour government to the highest sustained growth in g7 for scotland . that would take us scotland. that would take us hugely forward . the jobs of the hugely forward. the jobs of the future, the skills of the future. at the moment the problem we've got is the product is low living standards low start ups in scotland failing at a greater rate than elsewhere in the uk. this is in a scotland , a the uk. this is in a scotland, a great history when it comes to economy. so we want to turn that around . drivers were left around. drivers were left stranded for hours this morning with heavy snowfall holding up traffic. storm larisa the uk overnight causing to be suspended and rails delayed as

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edinburgh edinburgh. this is gb news. we'll bring you news as it happens. now it's back to nana . happens. now it's back to nana. good afternoon. it's 7 minutes after 5:00. this is gb news on tv online and on digital radio. i'm done a and we start with breaking in the last 20 minutes. gary lineker is to step back from presenting match of the day until an agreement has been made regarding his social media. now the news follows an impartial over comments lineker made criticising the government's new asylum policy. he compared language used by suella braverman , germany in the 1930s. braverman, germany in the 1930s. in a statement, the bbc said the bbc has decided that he will step back from presenting match of the day until got an agreed and clear position on his use of social media. when it comes to

leading football and sports coverage , gary is second to coverage, gary is second to none. we have never that gary should be an opinion free zone or he can't have a view on issues that matter to him. but we have said that he should keep away from taking sides on party political issues or political controversies . well, joining me controversies. well, joining me now is akhil , former head of, now is akhil, former head of, religion and ethics at bbc and channel 4. thank you very much for joining me now , this forjoining me now, this a welcome decision by the bbc . welcome decision by the bbc. i think it's a decision that i'm surprised that they've taken because obviously they do need to have a policy with regards to gary and what and not just gary, but in general, everybody. because what you've got to remember is gary lineker is not a news and affairs presenter. he's presenter. a news and affairs presenter. he's presenter . sports he's a presenter. sports programming in particular football programming. so it seems quite strange , you know, seems quite strange, you know, he would be held to the same kind of level of scrutiny that you would actually hold a

current entity. but because this is a fast moving area with regards to what people expect from people regards to social media and the kind of things that can be said and the mistakes you can make and the tone what you can get wrong that i understand that needs to be a conversation . but think conversation. but i think we have to clear this as well, have to be clear this as well, which is he's not current affairs presenter so therefore if he had an opinion then he's entitled to have an opinion on the problem, become how he is how is that opinion then linked to with regards his role with the bbc now , he is a freelance the bbc now, he is a freelance presenter. remember not that he's not actually full time with the bbc. he does work for of a broadcasters as well. so that is the reason why i think that this is a welcome conversation not just about gary but about the whole of presenting and workforce . well, for the bbc, in workforce. well, for the bbc, in terms of what they can and cannot say . well, okay, i'm cannot say. well, okay, i'm going to say that that's actually what you said. that's

slightly incorrect. and you know why i know this? because i've worked as presenter worked at the bbc as a presenter and i actually brought and i that actually they brought everything into close alignment . so whether you were sports or , whether you were news, you would still , by a , whether you were news, you would still, by a similar code and they closed they closed the gap. and i know this sorry. let me finish. listen to they closed the they the gap in the the gap and they the gap in the time there and they closed time i was there and they closed the gap on as associated. so the gap on me as associated. so radio presenters were able say stop a bit more than news and so on forth. then closed on and so forth. but then closed the and tim davie specific the gap and tim davie specific me said actually he didn't me said that actually he didn't care who you are going to make sure that the bbc remains impartial in the biggest speech in 2021. and we all know that gary knows that. in fact, we all had impartiality, training . and had impartiality, training. and the reason i left the bbc was because i couldn't speak. and too, i like gary, was a freelancer yet we had was forced into i am 35 and i was not allowed to speak either. so he is bound by the same rules as everybody else within reason or

not totally, because obviously is no impartial. it's a very different of impartiality when you read when your news when your news and current affairs trends are. now, i understand exactly what you're saying, which i it's the which is why i think it's the right thing do to the right thing to do to the wider conversation, because it's not simply possible i don't think it's possible to say that everybody is the same when you work for an organisation like the bbc or any kind of major organisation of that nature, because not everybody does the same kind of role not same kind of role and not everybody has the same of contract. i believe contract. that's why i believe that they have to have this conversation and understand that in going forward you'll have nobody working for you if you're not allowed to some form or of exactly exactly the point is why i left the bbc because i couldn't have an opinion yet . i couldn't have an opinion yet. i was not but i was a freelancer and they certainly weren't paying and they certainly weren't paying me enough to not work for anybody else. so in a in my view, it was almost like a form of constructive dismissal because had go, because because you had go, because otherwise you'd never make up enough had enough money. and so you had to

because have because you couldn't have an opinion any other channel. opinion on any other channel. actually, myself , i myself actually, i myself, i myself lost two shows because i said something channel something a different channel that the bbc won't happy with. so i something and i wasn't news news as it were. and i was kind of more radio time i'd of more radio at the time i'd done and i'd all that. done news and i'd done all that. so welcome the conversation. so i welcome the conversation. but gary knows that shouldn't have speaking way . have been speaking in that way. surely admit that what surely you must admit that what they were saying in terms of political it political stature, because it sounds if you imagine a lot sounds like if you imagine a lot of it's sort of like the bbc feeling like they have a left wing. and feel they wing. and do you feel they perhaps pressure from perhaps felt pressure from politicians i think that there's an element of that because , i an element of that because, i mean, if you follow gary on twitter and i actually follow him on twitter, if you follow him on twitter, if you follow him he has an him on twitter, he has an opinion of things. now opinion on lot of things. now you the same about, say, you can ask the same about, say, another gary neville on not on bbc, but on sky and itv. i think he's doing tv as well. i mean, he's doing tv as well. i mean, he's very opinion it there's no getting around it. so it's actually interesting. gary lineker would be picked more actually interesting. gary linek

works for the bbc there . i works for the bbc there. i talked to lots of people who work . you know, andrew neil was work. you know, andrew neil was very opinion it and actually i followed him as i follow him as well. and i like a of what well. and i like a lot of what he says, but he's also opinionated. so the fact of the matter you're right they do matter is, you're right they do feel there's a wing bias feel there's a left wing bias because gary's particular opinions admitted opinions and tim davie admitted it's yeah well don't think anything that i don't speak on their nothing i'm saying they may think that i can understand that but i'm going back to that central which central point, which is the system stands is, has to system as it stands is, has to be looked at because everybody is on social. when i was a head of religion, i wasn't on social media for obvious reasons which was it would have made my life misery because when i say something on social, there's a few big bunch of people will jump few big bunch of people will jump and say and jump out of nowhere and say and i say that much that much i don't say that much that much many are many things that are controversial anyway simply controversial anyway, simply because of roles because of a lot of the roles that so i'm not saying that i have. so i'm not saying that i have. so i'm not saying that it should be a free for all. i'm simply if you present news programme , i think it's one

news programme, i think it's one thing if you present over programmes like sport of or whatever it is, i think there needs be a bit of leeway here. i think you could have a conversation about what you actually said, but should you be allowed in my opinion. allowed to say it in my opinion. of course, he's an of course, because he's not an example. you shouldn't sort of needs address it he be needs to address it now. he be allowed that because he allowed to say that because he also he also has a responsibility and he remember working for these remember he's working for these literally much a state literally is pretty much a state owned broadcaster. right. so why earth be paying for earth should we be paying for him give his opinions? if him to give us his opinions? if you to for bbc, you want to work for the bbc, that's fine. you must accept that's fine. but you must accept the if rule is the rule. and if the rule is that then so must you that they are, then so must you be. you don't work. for that be. if you don't work. for that there are other organisations to work much, work for. thank you very much, akhil. talk you. akhil. good to talk to you. that's is a former that's akhil amar is a former head of research and at head of research and ethics at the bbc and at channel four. well, me now is well, well, joining me now is former ofcom, former chief adviser to ofcom, martin campbell. martin, thank you much for joining martin campbell. martin, thank you much forjoining me. you very much for joining me. the bbc guidelines in many respects in somewhat almost unworkable in this modern age. what do you do you think that perhaps that they need to have a rethink that perhaps people rethink and that perhaps people

like to make like gary should be able to make comments political issues. no comments on political issues. no i don't i couldn't disagree more with your previous guest. i the bbc are their own worst enemy. they should have well before now . and to say that then they're going to work for a green . and going to work for a green. and with him, i mean, who's in who here it's . easy you know he's here it's. easy you know he's paid £1.3 million a row whether people like it or not i don't care whether he's a freelance or not he's getting that money from the bbc and the bbc is the state and therefore as highest paid person that he is the face of the bbc and why why they hesitate should i really do or . hesitate should i really do or. well it feels like i mean you know i'm putting it out there that why i don't understand why they would hesitate they didn't hesitate when i said hesitate me when i said something they something that didn't like they

told terms. then told in no uncertain terms. then when something that they when i did something that they didn't like they told me again and was on, you know, and i knew i was on, you know, i thought myself i need to leave because am somebody who cannot sit opinion is why sit there with no opinion is why i'm i'm very i'm not there. and i'm very grateful can grateful to be here where can have opinion. he is there have an opinion. but he is there we're it and i'm with we're paying for it and i'm with you. i don't see why you should be and why they've taken be allowed and why they've taken so terms of so long. well, in terms of ofcom, ofcom don't really have any jurisdiction , do they, with any jurisdiction, do they, with regard social media, do they regard to social media, do they have at the moment? have any at all at the moment? no but it may change whether they have they have some, but they have they have some, but they don't have jurisdiction oven they don't have jurisdiction over. this they they may depending on how the online safety bill pans out, they have some sort of say over that. but you know, the bbc is being bought more and more under and on. either the bbc is impartial or it isn't. i don't i see what difference it makes that gary also earns money from people. the fact of the is he's paid an absolute fortune because the

system that will send people to prison if they don't pay it and this is no way to spend the money to try and say we'll reach an agreement. money to try and say we'll reach an agreement . you either you an agreement. you either you either employ them tell him what to do or you don't employer and i like your comment who's employing who because i have no why they're they are dillydallying about it. i mean he's he's clearly breached guidelines. i mean, in your view , guidelines. i mean, in your view i , guidelines. i mean, in your view , i mean, must be quite well , i mean, you must be quite well aware the guidelines if . aware of the guidelines if. there was to be one that you would pick that breached. would pick that he's breached. what the breach? what what would be the breach? well just strict, impartial policy. if we are to take things that tim davie has said as gospel, that tim davie has said as gospel , you know he that tim davie has said as gospel, you know he has said yes the stand for anything it stands for impartiality. so he is just making monkey of the bbc by saying, oh, you it doesn't frighten me to be suspended by the bbc well, you know if i don't millions pounds over there

i wouldn't be that about whether i wouldn't be that about whether i was going to be suspended or not. i mean, the whole thing sounds , but what is doing is sounds, but what is doing is also weaponising the mps who excuse me all the mps who've got it in for the bbc it's handing them the weapons shoot but they are their own worst enemy . it's are their own worst enemy. it's just the scenes just incredible that they would allow him to even consider that he would present much the day on the saturday did slightly laugh i think that's not going to happen well martin, thank you very much for joining me. that is course, forjoining me. that is course, it was lovely to talk to you as a former chief adviser to ofcom my are joining me now is the sports presenter and journalist scuddeh sports presenter and journalist scudder. chris what do you make of this? do you think the bbc acted correctly and do you actually believe the idea that because sports gary because he's a sports gary should some sort should have some sort of slightly different of the slightly different parts of the people . not people presenting news. not surprised. i mean they sort of got their wagons circled yet was

looking at the statement here until we've got an agreed clear position on his use of social media. it all seems a bit vague to me i'm just going to take you back to what was it, three months, less than three months ago now. and almost the very first link that gary lineker made during the qatar world cup was a political it was talk , you was a political it was talk, you know, all of all the control is all the backdrop to whether the world should have been played in qatar . and it world should have been played in qatar. and it was only a soap box. there given a kind of prepared speech , written prepared speech, written probably by somebody else . so probably by somebody else. so i think a lot of people thinking, well, if you can do that , then well, if you can do that, then why can not have an opinion why can he not have an opinion on domestic policy ? that's not on domestic policy? that's not appears to be the problem. you we have said he should keep well away from taking sides on any party political issues or political controversies . i think political controversies. i think you know some people are going

have taken offence by that comparison. germany is very strong. people are going to take offence about that. so i'm not surprised. it's happened. i'm surprised. it's happened. i'm surprised it's taken so long. but i do think gary will back you know, until i think it'll work away round. yes but for the time i think it's probably that he's not not going to be presenting much of the day tomorrow night because it would be a wouldn't it? well, be a circus wouldn't it? well, it be. and what you think it will be. and what you think the football looking at the football world is looking at this and any notice of it this and taking any notice of it that matches their that no one matches their programme. exactly the same views or without just views with or without it. just do there's effect do you think there's any effect on sporting no on the sporting world? no listen, he's freelance. i mean, he's he can have an opinion. i've always thought that if social media, sport, such massively grey area hasn't , i massively grey area hasn't, i was always told, you know, when i was working full time in television, you don't tweet what you wouldn't broadcast . tweets you wouldn't broadcast. tweets are kind of an aside. don't let that kind of a private view that

suddenly becomes very, very if he was to stand there and say that, you know, that germany, i wonder whether you would have you know, but it seems to be kind of different, but, you know, it is effectively broadcast thing, isn't it, when you when you write something down your, publishing it. so, you know, mean , he's probably you know, i mean, he's probably regretting now, but i think they'll get round it and as i say, i think he'll be back. i don't think be back. and i don't think that he's really done things . no think that he's really done things. no got other think that he's really done things . no got other interests things. no got other interests anyway. he's got the whole thing. he's a podcast company that's doing particularly well, very lucrative businesses. he doesn't need the bbc. i mean, i think a got think he's got a he's got a discussion with the with regard to i are 35 because a lot of bbc presenters, including me who worked many other people worked for many other people were it as as he i think were forced it as as he i think may well only tax because of it if that is the case. i mean you so if he's got this this is only the beginning think really to be honest with you i think gary's

people to be looking people are going to be looking at as case. do you at this as a test case. do you think sports presenters think that sports presenters should a different remit to should have a different remit to those news in terms of what those on news in terms of what they can and can't say ? as they can and can't say? as i said before, i mean, you know , said before, i mean, you know, twitter is an aside. tweeting is it is different? well listen , i it is different? well listen, i wouldn't have said it because think sometimes, you know , think sometimes, you know, people you get the brigade and gary neville it, you know, stick to football. gary and i think that's that's fair comment but you know he's allowed an opinion really. i mean if he has if he's got on if he's going during the world cup and the very first thing he said pretty because i remember thinking well you know it was a soapbox but was it him or it the bbc to speak for the bbc day and it went on for several days. it wasn't just it

it wasn't just him. it was the punst it wasn't just him. it was the pundits as well. this came up time and time. so if he if he's not been made to do that, he probably wanted to do that. but that happens then why should not be able to make his own opinions as well? i don't see a problem with yeah, he's a flaming hypocrite as because like hypocrite as well because like boxing, standing built boxing, a standing almost built by much chris by thank you very much chris is really talk that's chris really to talk to that's chris got his fourth presenter got to his fourth presenter journalist were joining me in the studio it's political the studio it's our political olivia utley now we've heard from conservative mp from many conservative mp criticise him for comments criticise him for his comments would the bbc start to be accused of political bias. you think that perhaps that's you know that they actually being quite biased in that they're worried being accused of worried about being accused of it. was in it. well think the bbc was in quite awkward position quite an awkward position because it was what the because what it was what the case of keeping gary lineker on was resting on it was the idea he is a freelancer and therefore not bound to the same impartiality rules as other bbc journalist. i mean , that might journalist. i mean, that might be technically correct, but obviously gary lineker , more

obviously gary lineker, more than just any old freelancer in some respects, he's sort of one of the faces of the bbc and if he is said to he's seen to be saying such inflammatory comments about policy, then can it really be said that the bbc is showing itself to be entire and completely impartial or so? the bbc was in an awkward position , but it did come out position, but it did come out rooting for gary lineker yesterday. justice absolutely. and now gary lineker has said that he not only did he not apologise. he also that he would he would do the same thing again , which made the bbc in a really, really situation. now it's reversed on that on that bolshie statement. it yesterday essentially coming out in favour of that and he is coming off now. why is that ? is that now. why is that? is that because not only the culture secretary but also the prime minister made comments suggesting that this was unacceptable, although of course, it was the final decision of the bbc and it could be that the bbc simply just does not want to pick this fight with

the government. it's fighting on different . the richard different fronts. the richard sharpe investigation is ongoing. that's pretty for them. do they want to pick this fight with the government? now, we obviously know the licence fee debate goes on the government holds the bbc's fate in its hands essentially and the bbc moisture felt that this was one fight with conservative government too many well, listen, there has many. well, listen, there has been an update because is been an update because there is confusion the moment. is confusion at the moment. it is it's that did not it's been reported that did not step back from presenting tomorrow's show because he has tomorrow's show because he has to apologise for his tweet as. far as i understand what's happenedis far as i understand what's happened is that sky has come out and suggested that well rip is reporting that the bbc statement which said that gary lineker back is incorrect . what lineker back is incorrect. what happened was gary lineker was off air because he refused to apologise. so as far as can see, gary lineker has stepped in and suggested that the bbc is inaccurate because . it suggests

inaccurate because. it suggests that it was the result of a conversation with the bbc, whereas actually lineker is saying that he was pulled off. so the fight between lineker and the is certainly intensifying because i wonder, i mean, i look at this, i sort of think, well, what is it? what what is it the he has them? why they won't he has on them? why they won't do what would with other do what they would do with other presenters. know you've presenters. and i know you've made between made a distinction between freelance staff but actually freelance and staff but actually at bbc and having worked , at the bbc and having worked, they don't really make much of a distinction that. so distinction in terms of that. so if a freelancer they if you're a freelancer they still will you post something they don't they still they don't like, they still will come and know this come for you. and i know this because actually a little while ago, a good friend of ago, one of my a good friend of mine comment after gary mine made a comment after gary something, made a comment on, gary's tweet, which he didn't like he thought it was offensive and within 10 minutes, his bosses at the bbc had called him up and said, look, take that down. no, tell gary off. but that down. so and he also was a freelance so these so i think the bbc are hiding behind the distinction between freelancers and full time staff because

doesn't really make much difference if you work for them. what you doing . so that's that's what you doing. so that's that's it. yeah so gary lineker it looks like gary eats seems to be well the i don't think he's coming back. and joining me now such commentator narinder kaur there about this. there to talk to me about this. gary lineker as let me just remind people in a statement the bbc released this last hour bbc has released this last hour bbc has released this last hour bbc have been an extensive discussions he is discussions with gary and he is not off match of not being pulled off match of the day. he's just not presenting of the day for some reason. narinder what's your on presenting of the day for some rea of]. narinder what's your on presenting of the day for some rea of this?tinder what's your on presenting of the day for some rea of this? wellr what's your on presenting of the day for some rea of this? well i'm hat's your on presenting of the day for some rea of this? well i'm absolutely)n all of this? well i'm absolutely outrageous. you can because nothing is ever proved that the bbc has been run by this wing government and this is it actually because smells a bit like 1930s germany. i think gary lineker may have had a point nana because the fact is gary lineker was to he's always had political opinions he's always said so, but he's never been pulled over. why was he pulled off at this time? maybe had he agreed with this immigration ? he agreed with this immigration? he may not he may still presenting tomorrow. this is outrageous.

i'm absolutely disgusted what's happening in this country and. the fact is, the bbc bowing down to the government the government are running the bbc it's not right. this is not the country i will live in. where are you going to go to into crikey. we've got loads of work. i wouldn't if i were say you have to do everything down the line. it's outrageous. you do it's outrageous. you have to do it all down line. listen. okay so first of all, the comparison with germany, a lot of jewish groups have taken huge offence at that. right because remember the government's policies are designed to kill people . whereas designed to kill people. whereas if you look at germany in the policies what happened, they would try to extinguish an exterminate a race of people, a people. this is not what's happening . it is it diminishes happening. it is it diminishes what happened in the holocaust and what happened in germany by this particular event, and what happened in germany by this particular event , this this particular event, this particular policy, which simply is about trying to control a migrant crisis , comparing it to migrant crisis, comparing it to a holocaust surrender can. now

we can, you know , do not see we can, you know, do not see that that is unacceptable . that that that is unacceptable. that no, the didn't start with gas chambers. it with vile words and gary didn't say germany said 19 dufies gary didn't say germany said 19 duties germany and actually nana i think today. well let's not get shown he's got a point he's got a point because the fact he's been censored this is censorship. i could gb news was about free speech and project we now have in cancel culture this is not the narinder kaur platform . narinder. i think platform. narinder. ithink you're confusing breaching impartiality guidelines when you work for an organisation state owned with free speech. gary lineker entitled to his free speech and nobody's gary lineker. what is to gary lineker is because he works the bbc who i work for myself and was bound by exactly the same rules of impartiality as is. so i was not able to out and talk about things and i lost two gigs because of it at the bbc. so i know that. sorry guys finish.

can i finish ? we are all bound can i finish? we are all bound by the same impartial rule. so just to step back on your point that it's free speech but nothing to do with free speech, you also have the free speech. he wants to say what he likes about politics. simply join another organisation. that's the deal we pay for deal with the bbc. we pay for them. because them. not really, because alan can likes. county he can say what he likes. county he about because he about the rail strike because he said mick lynch he said said about mick lynch he said plenty of things bruce plenty of things fiona bruce always you know applauded beaches yesterday so no actually no they pick and choose because the government i've got over the bbc so they didn't like what colin said again. bbc so they didn't like what colin said again . the tory colin said again. the tory government's immigration bill and now he's been taken over. this is cancel culture . well this is cancel culture. well it's okay. first of all with the cast of fiona bruce, i mean she didn't that's that could be or to i don't think she meant it that and she's not here that way and she's also not here to herself. but let's to defend herself. but let's stick to that. and she's probably next. actually, the bbc are words are probably having words with her for the other her anyway. and as for the other pasties they let they

pasties that they let off, they shouldn't off shouldn't be letting people off who that are who are saying things that are breaching guidelines and breaching the bbc guidelines and they well they should punished. well they did. they . yeah. well did. yeah, they. yeah. well that's the point taken off now because police gave an opinion on his platform . no, but that's on his platform. no, but that's the point. you know now i'm and honorary you know that's yesterday they said it's irrelevant and i this because i myself had two things taken away from me not for saying something on the bbc, but saying somewhere else on it somewhere else. and |, else on it somewhere else. and i, was freelancer. so i i, too, was freelancer. so i know the guidelines. correct. so that was great. listen, i accepted it because . accepted, accepted it because. accepted, i'd breached the guidelines. i accepted . yeah, i accepted. accepted. yeah, i accepted. and in end, the interview, you in the end, the interview, you know what did the interim, know what i did in the interim, do that you what do you think that you know what i end? do you know i did in the end? do you know what did in the end? i left. don't news what kind of an don't gb news what kind of an opinion? therefore the opinion? yeah. so therefore the is led and it's what is government led and it's what the approve and. the government approve and. therefore okay. so when therefore it's okay. so when it was he criticised and was when he was criticised and cut all that was all okay. no it wasn't no it wasn't acceptable wasn't. no it wasn't acceptable at all. he should put before and take i well should take off. i know. well he should have kaur. thank

have been narinder kaur. thank you for running out time. you so for running out of time. always a pleasure to to always a pleasure to talk to you. yeah, this very you. yeah, well, this is a very fast in the last fast moving story in the last few moments, right. has confirmed will not confirmed that he will not appear of day appear on match of the day tomorrow. right regular tomorrow. right is a regular guest but he's guest on the programme but he's tweeted everybody what tweeted everybody knows what match means to me. match of the day means to me. but i've told the bbc i won't be doing it tomorrow. solid charity really well they'll replace you as a reminder of what started with this this whole story on tuesday gary lineker responded to a video home secretary. it's what apartment where she outlined the government's illegal bill, saying it won't . illegal bill, saying it won't. it was what was beyond awful now when he was pulled off on his comment, lineker replied , was no comment, lineker replied, was no huge influx. we take far fewer refugees in other major european countries. this is just an invisible policy directed at most vulnerable people in language that is not dissimilar to that used by not germany. sorry. no, not to germany, but germany in the thirties and i'm out of order . well, lots of you out of order. well, lots of you . i've been getting in touch

with this because it's a huge story . we'll be looking at those story. we'll be looking at those these very shortly. but let's get your latest news headlines with tatiana sanchez . not with tatiana sanchez. not a thank you and good afternoon. this is latest from the gb newsroom. the bbc says gary lineker is to step back from presenting of the day until an agreement been reached on his social media usage. it follows comments he made on twitter criticising the government's new asylum policy . he likened the asylum policy. he likened the language used to that of 1930s germany. in a statement, the broadcaster said we have never said that gary can't have a view on that matter to him. but he should keep well away from taking sides . party political taking sides. party political issues or political controversies . while in the last controversies. while in the last few minutes , commentator ian few minutes, commentator ian wright has on twitter that he's told the bbc. he won't be joining this saturday's show in a move of solidarity with mr.

lineker . well in other news lineker. well in other news rishi has agreed to give france almost half a billion pounds over the next three years in an attempt to end the channel migrant crisis , the prime migrant crisis, the prime minister held talks with president emmanuel macron in paris today before announcing landmark deal, which will see a new detention centre established in france . the joint news in france. the joint news conference followed first bilateral summit between the two countries in five years. mr. sunak says the new illegal migrant legislation introduced this week supports this new deal announcing a new detention centre , northern france, a new centre, northern france, a new command bringing our enforcement teams together in one place for the first time and an extra hundred new officers patrolling french beaches , all underpinned french beaches, all underpinned by drones and other surveillance technologies that will help ramp up the interception rate . the up the interception rate. the legislation the uk has introduced week supports this . introduced week supports this. it's designed to break the

business model of the criminal gangs and remove the pull factors , bringing them to the factors, bringing them to the channel coast coast. drivers were left stranded for this morning with heavy snowfall holding up traffic. storm larisa in the uk overnight causing to be suspended and. rail services delayed as fallen blocked some lines. the met office has yellow warnings snow and ice in place for parts of the uk over the weekend and people are being urged to only travel necessary . urged to only travel necessary. tv online and dab radio this is gb news not back to nana . gb news not back to nana. thank you, tatiana. it's coming up to 36 minutes after 5:00. i'm not a square. i'm in for patrick. let's return to the breaking news that gary lineker is to step back from presenting matches the day until an

agreement has been made regarding his social media to this comes after impartiality rounds over comments that he made criticising the government's new asylum policy . government's new asylum policy. he compared the language used by celebrities to germany in the 19305 celebrities to germany in the 1930s and as a reminder , in 1930s and as a reminder, in a statement, the bbc said , the bbc statement, the bbc said, the bbc has decided he will step back from presenting match of the day. and so we've got an agreed and clear position on his use of social media when it comes to leading our football sports coverage. gary is second to none. we have never said that gary should be an opinion zone or that he can't have a view on issues that matter to him . but issues that matter to him. but we have said that we should keep that he should keep it. well away from taking sides on. party political issues, all political control persists. and in the last few minutes fellow match the day presenter ian wright says that he will not present tomorrow night's show as a show of solidarity with gary lineker

. hey look, there's plenty of other young pundits who would love to do that job. so, you know, you want in might not be the best course of action. well, joining now is sports broadcaster and journalist aidan magee . well, this is big magee aiden. well, this is big news. i it's not left the news. i mean, it's not left the front covers of many of the newspaper. and obviously i've had little i'd say in it for had a little i'd say in it for the football i mean, look the football world. i mean, look in rights joined now is this in rights joined in now is this is this becoming something that people actually care about about ? it's difficult to answer that one because i think that the history of celebrities making comments on politics shows that actually it probably doesn't change many opinions anyway if we hear somebody speaking about particular taking a particular angle often, we eitherjust let angle often, we either just let it wash over us or in some cases when it comes to politics, we think, well, actually we don't like their views. so going like their views. so we're going to view. so i to take the opposite view. so i think to little think react we react to a little bit much. i'm really bit too much. i'm really surprised wright has come a fair i mean that's show of i mean that's a show of solidarity. as you say there solidarity. but as you say there are people are plenty of other people who would their careers to would kill for their careers to present day. i also

present match of the day. i also that one thing that's not been mentioned enough in this whole coverage in the few days mentioned enough in this whole cove there n the few days mentioned enough in this whole covethere n the previousiys now there is your previous guests narinder kaur said . the guests narinder kaur said. the lakers always have physical opinions , but he has in the last opinions, but he has in the last four or five years prior to that, he rarely had any comments about politics all. now he's a 62 year old white man. he is not really in vogue in terms of the demographic that the bbc are going . he's demographic that the bbc are going. he's seen many of his contemporaries , phil in contemporaries, phil thomas in the malassezia , a sky the sky malassezia, a sky mottled johnson bbc, alan hansen deplatformed because again, they don't fit the demographic of the bbc is edging towards and so there's a degree of trying to use politics here. the right kind of politics, which some people would call it rather menacingly to stay relevant . and menacingly to stay relevant. and that's really what this is about. he didn't suddenly develop conscience . develop a social conscience. five years ago, at the of five years ago, at the age of 58. this is this is strategies. this is there's behind this. and it's with the aim of keeping his job for as long as possible do you think because some of the comments made do you think

comments he's made do you think a lot of the football fans actually wouldn't agree like actually wouldn't agree so like the made i would the comment that he made i would have the football have thought the football world may side of may be more on the side of actually something about actually doing something about this market than not though do think that that actually probably picked up also a lot of people also a lot of people agree with him now. well, now, i do think he's a good presenter i think this is a holding position for the bbc. i think it suits them to put their foot on the ball. you pardon the pun, if ball. so you pardon the pun, if you do probably what you like and do probably what talksport in talksport did earlier in the season sinclair came season when trevor sinclair came in, some in, come out with some inflammatory comments around the death he was just death of the queen. he was just put graze few put out to graze for a few months and just edge back in through the back door when want to stop talking about one of the things we know about today today's news and the dissemination is that over dissemination facts is that over a period of time a shorter, shorter of time in the in social may, in the social media era, things do live. we saw it loads of times with whenever the england manager, sven—goran eriksson that eriksson into indiscretions that was pre social media. a was pre social media. it's a question of out the storm i

don't think we'll gary lineker on the day before the end on match the day before the end of the season but come august i think he'll be right there think he'll be right back there . when i was asking me the same problem jamie, he spotted a problem with jamie, he spotted a fan. on social fan. he was filmed on social media. everywhere. if i media. i went everywhere. if i hold well say they edged media. i went everywhere. if i hold well in say they edged media. i went everywhere. if i hold well in overy they edged media. i went everywhere. if i hold well in over a they edged media. i went everywhere. if i hold well in over a periodey edged media. i went everywhere. if i hold well in over a period ofzdged him back in over a period of time so there's also the contract to consider here so we don't lineker his don't know what gary lineker his contract says in terms of just dismissing think dismissing him. so i think they said it's is a temporary said it's a ten is a temporary reprieve overall passes and an engine stop engine vacuum when people stop talking london . i talking about it in london. i don't that's going don't i don't think that's going to with gary. i he'sjust to happen with gary. i he's just he's just too many political he's just one too many political spats. much. spats. but thank you so much. i really to talk to you. that really good to talk to you. that is aidan magee. he's a journalist and sports journalist joining now southampton joining me now in southampton is legend football matt legend and football pundit matt latisha . hi, matt. good to see latisha. hi, matt. good to see he's is getting his in politics again . sick of it. i'm sick and again. sick of it. i'm sick and tired of it, but what do you make of all of this ? well, make of all of this? well, firstly , as you know, i'm a big firstly, as you know, i'm a big advocate of freedom of speech, so i think gary should be

entitled to his opinion. i think the only the possible caveat to thatis the only the possible caveat to that is the terms of gary's contract . and it appears from contract. and it appears from the statement from the bbc that there seems be something in there seems be something in there that says he's , got to there that says he's, got to stay away from political issues . and if that is the case, then obviously he's breached his contract . so there is there is contract. so there is there is certainly an issue there for him if he has done that . but i don't if he has done that. but i don't i don't mind people having opinion. everyone is entitled to their opinion and nobody nobody should. nobody nobody's forced to listen to it. we could disregard gary's opinion . it's disregard gary's opinion. it's like lot of the stuff that he like a lot of the stuff that he talks about. we hear it and, it just goes, i might disregard it because it's just that that's his opinion. and if people don't agree with it, just ignore it if this is a conflation of freedom of speech with the fact that you've joined the state owned broadcaster you're not broadcaster where you're not really political really meant to make political comments everyone comments and literally everyone at the bbc, even you have a bit

less or a bit more the impartiality. i know that i've worked for them. i think you've probably worked for as probably worked for them as well. oh, but we all know well. oh, maybe. but we all know that choose work that if you if you choose work for bbc, then you know for the bbc, then you know you've your right to you've foregone your right to make political comments. you've foregone your right to make plenty)olitical comments. you've foregone your right to make plenty)oliother:omments. you've foregone your right to make plenty)oliother placesnts. you've foregone your right to make plenty)oliother places you there plenty of other places you can so many options can work. he so many options open him . so i i keep open to him. so ijust i keep heanng open to him. so ijust i keep hearing conflate it with freedom of speech and think so nothing hearing conflate it with freedom of do zech and think so nothing hearing conflate it with freedom of do withand think so nothing hearing conflate it with freedom of do with freedom; so nothing hearing conflate it with freedom of do with freedom of) nothing hearing conflate it with freedom of do with freedom of speechg hearing conflate it with freedom of do with freedom of speech . he to do with freedom of speech. he can that that's why can express that that's why that's why i made the point the terms contract . and so terms of his contract. and so that's the that's the only caveat to it all. and if he's if he's breached in terms of that contract, obviously he's got to he's going have the he's going to have the consequences that. now, consequences of that. now, gary's obviously , if he's not gary's obviously, if he's not presenting any rights now to is not to do it. do you think not going to do it. do you think it will make any difference at all? that viewers of match all? will that viewers of match of even care? i of the day even care? i mean, you uke of the day even care? i mean, you like cat it you know, it's like a cat it goes to house and it gets goes to one house and it gets more food at the one. so i more food at the next one. so i guess that is, if guess the house that is, even if it's your own cat, it'll go to somebody else's house. yeah as i think. betcha. there's think. you betcha. there's plenty of people would

plenty of other people would kill for a job like that. so it is an amazing he's had it for a long time that bbc statement, i don't remember where it said he was second to none. i think the arms way too much to be second to anybody and not second to none. but that's that's just the cookie crumbles and yes, it's sad for him , but he i guess he sad for him, but he i guess he have known the consequences and still decided to do that anyway. so that's that's completely up to him and as i said , you're to him and as i said, you're right , there are plenty of other right, there are plenty of other jobs for him if he wants to be free to air his political opinions , then then absolutely opinions, then then absolutely go and go with someone else . go and go with someone else. maybe thought this is going to be like another teflon gary moment, but maybe not. this one won't actually stick. what about ian is decided that ian roy every is decided that he's not going to do it either. now you can if you step into

that and do it once, you're going to have to do it for as long as gary's not there . or is long as gary's not there. or is ian wright going to come back the following? i mean, i'm just wondering, what do you think about it's about it, ian? it's really it's interesting. and ian has taken a stand there for standing up for his mate and his fellow tv worker. but what's really interesting about it is if go back three years and have look at the reaction the ian had to the sacking of myself phil thompson and charlie nicholas and you will see that reaction is completely contradictory the way he reacted to this. so you know it's all very well , you know it's all very well, you know, taking this stand . but, know, taking this stand. but, you know , that show a bit of you know, that show a bit of consistency in this writing . consistency in this writing. well, how do you know what i'm about if you're watching you , about if you're watching you, what i'm on about? well, listen, some know. don't some people don't know. i don't know happened. he know what happened. did he not join didn't step back. join in? he didn't step back. when you were fired or whatever

it no, he certainly didn't. it was. no, he certainly didn't. he certainly didn't stand . in he certainly didn't stand. in solidarity with the three of us, that's for sure. it was a case of , you know, people , old people of, you know, people, old people who have had their time. and it's who have had their time. and wsfime who have had their time. and it's time to move on to some younger people . oh, right. wow younger people. oh, right. wow wow, wow. those lines along those . but it shouldn't be too those. but it shouldn't be too hard to find it interesting stuff, alison, that that is always pleasure. thank you so much. will you be match of the day tomorrow without gary and ian ? no, i'll be round my house ian? no, i'll be round my house celebrating his birthday . so celebrating his birthday. so i will i will not be watching match of the day. but yeah, sometimes i do. sometimes i find it easier to actually record it and then i can just fast forward pass the boring and will do you care that gary is not present and won't be there either. will it make a difference to you ? it make a difference to you? just hey, thank you, mike. this is lovely to talk you. that is not the for case myself. i'm an england footballer and a

football pundit . well, joining football pundit. well, joining me here in the studio now is political olivia utley know, there's number of there's been a number of political commentators and conservative who have been conservative mps who have been calling for gary lineker to go have as they move to have the effect as they move to remove him from his position . it remove him from his position. it sounds bbc have sounds as though the bbc have unwillingly taken gary lineker air and that is very interesting . yesterday the bbc came out rooting for lineker really and it sounded very much as though he was going to keep job. 24 hours later, they've completely reversed position and from what lineker is suggesting to sky, he has now taken off without his unwillingly assent . so what does unwillingly assent. so what does that mean ? how does the bbc that mean? how does the bbc essentially that it just doesn't want to pick this fight with the government ? because all this government? because all this happened between yesterday and today is that conservative mp have piled in condemning gary lineker for tweet and even suggesting that it was and that although none of them quite went

as far as to say that he should be sacked, they all said that it was a decision for the but they all made it very clear that they felt that he should go . so felt that that he should go. so is it that the bbc has simply decided that it has too much on its plate at the moment to a fight conservative fight with the conservative government ? obviously, the government? obviously, on the other side , it's already in a in other side, it's already in a in a row about this, richard sharpe affair. richard sharpe, who helped secure a loan , boris helped secure a loan, boris johnson when he was prime minister is now being accused of political bias , the political bias, the conservatives. so there's question mark over his future now there's this question mark over over gary lineker and what they do about him so they're essentially fighting on two fronts they're fighting the right and the left. and it seems perhaps just decided perhaps they've just decided that picking the that picking a fight with the conservative government who were already, know, cutting their already, you know, cutting their budget left, right and centre, just might not be the most sensible move for them. so it could that they've essentially done this in order placate done this in order to placate the tory government that might be a bit of an own goal because

of course they are now, they now unable to get ian wright to host the show . and it could be that the show. and it could be that there are some people who who feel that this is a mistake and that the bbc is now pandering to a conservative government and that the bbc is now biased to the right . so it's very the right. so it's very difficult see how bbc can difficult to see how the bbc can win from this position. well what labour politicians, what about labour politicians, though come on the though? anyone come out on the labour side and comment and criticise ? well, mostly criticise this? well, mostly it's been conservative mp and we've seen really senior conservative mp. it's quite interesting the level at which they're we had they're intervening. so we had a penny. mordaunt leader commons talking about it in the commons yesterday and gary lineker actually at her on actually swiped at her on twitter showing absolutely no twitter so showing absolutely no remorse at all the original case then there was an urgent question in the house of commons which which dcms secretary lucy frazer answered and was very strong in her language condemning gary lineker suella braverman , the home secretary

braverman, the home secretary also piled in there. so you're seeing the extent to which this is this is gone down badly with the conservative government as very high level. and of course some of the papers which are which are more to the to the centre right, daily mail, daily telegraph , even the times telegraph, even the times calling gary lineker to go . so calling gary lineker to go. so the bbc was under quite a lot of social pressure here and might simply have decided that they're fighting wars too on many fronts to pick a fight with . the to pick a fight with. the conservative establishment really . you think you think that really. you think you think that that didn't do not suspect because obviously the bbc are to because obviously the bbc are to be apolitical so they're not supposed to be involved in politics in any way. so do you think that perhaps may be considering that they need to in order to survive they to maintain this impartiality because otherwise, as you as you talk about people saying, oh, well, the trying to appease the tory government people will start to see a sort of political bias in their behave as they're trying to. do you think that maybe they're to neutralise

maybe they're just to neutralise things? well quite possibly. but of course, while still of course, while they're still fighting this, richard sharp already, left wing already, you've got left wing commentators coming out and suggesting that they've got rid of gary lineker. very quickly really for tweeting the conservative government. i mean, while richard shaw was hanging on for a very long time when he appeared to have massively broken impartiality, guidelines , i mean, we still don't know exactly happened by helping the prime minister to broker this agreement. so it's tricky for the bbc . it's always got this the bbc. it's always got this delicate balancing act. it may be that it is just trying to restore its reputation for impartiality, but there could certainly be an element here, at least of the bbc simply not wanting to pick another with the conservative government , just conservative government, just the weight of conservative mp piling on to this tweet. it shouldn't really be their fight fight. they be olivia fight. they should be olivia utley. much. utley. thank you very much. lovely you. she's our lovely to talk to you. she's our political reporter now, channel five presenter dan walker five news presenter dan walker used present football on the used to present football on the bbc the government has

bbc. he says the government has messaged him saying that it was not decision to step back from his role on match bbc his role on match the day. bbc have told he had to step back . have told he had to step back. with me now, sports journalist harry harris. harry, what you make of those reports that the bbc told him to step back? i mean, i'm not surprised, harvey, but if was a bbc that but i mean, if i was a bbc that had told him to step back a long time ago, i think the for me, i'm between the lines i'm reading between the lines and to the statement and listening to the statement from the bbc . and when they from the bbc. and when they talked about, from the bbc. and when they talked about , trying to reach talked about, trying to reach agreement with gary lineker and i don't know what they've ever tried reach agreement with tried reach an agreement with gary going to gary lineker. it's not going to be easy. and for me, i think thatis be easy. and for me, i think that is key word because that is the key word because i think what has happened in 24 hours, think the bbc tried to hours, i think the bbc tried to get gary to adhere to the impartiality agreement which overrides everyone who works for the bbc . he feels he's the bbc. he feels he's untouchable. he's made many, many that breaches the impartiality agreement and got away with it. so he probably feels he can continue to do so .

feels he can continue to do so. i think bbc have told him this is the end of the story for him. he has to adhere to the impartiality which he signed and. i think i don't think going to be silenced. i think this is the last you see of gary lineker on match of the day as well. i think you're right. but you didn't. travelled the world. didn't. you travelled the world. lineker said he's what was lineker you said he's what was he like? is he a tricky guy to get oh mean he is great get on with? oh mean he is great company, but i tell you what, he knows his own mind and. he sticks to it. you find it very difficult to change it . you difficult to change it. you could call him stubborn, but you know. he knows what he wants. he knows what he's doing. got many other irons . the fire. he won't other irons. the fire. he won't be short of money if this job eludes in which i think it's to. and i said yesterday here on this program that i think it's going to be sooner rather than later that jermaine jenas replaces him as a consequence of this. and i'm still of that mind . and i just think this is a temporary measure. i think even

is wrong on the part. i temporary measure. i think even is wrong on the part . i don't is wrong on the part. i don't think it says his tweet that he's going to was asked to. i think he would just be one of the pundits. and i think if it was a time to lineker, i think it's misplaced to begin to realise that lot of people were upset by what he said. it was a of what he said and i agree with a lot of people saying they should just ignore what he says. well listen, i don't think i don't think you should be offended by it, but a lot of people can be and it can be. we're we're running of we're running. we're running of time. i do appreciate your. it's really to talk to you. really good to talk to you. that's harris's that's harry harris's is a sports journalist . this is a gb sports journalist. this is a gb news and. also, you've been getting in touch with your source. to. sure. we make source. i had to. sure. we make time those lineker time for those on gary lineker stepping for match of stepping back for match of the day stepping being day or not stepping up, being forced to step back says so now the will pay lineker 1.75 the bbc will pay lineker1.75 million actually year million was 1.35 actually a year not match the day. not to do match the day. well hopefully will stop soon as hopefully that will stop soon as well. says members well. sylvia says other members of have to comply with of bbc staff have to comply with impartiality rules he impartiality rules why he doesn't . people can do doesn't giving. people can do

what does. no one is what he does. no one is indispensable and actually they are for the saving money by not having on says no gary having him on brian says no gary lineker no invite i might start match of the day again very good well this was the tweet that said and it was sent on tuesday that caused a lot of controversy . there no huge influx. we . there is no huge influx. we take far fewer refugees than other major european countries. this is just an immeasurably cruel policy directed at the most vulnerable people in language that is noted similar to used by germany in the to that used by germany in the thirties and i'm out of order he's asking really yes of course he's asking really yes of course he's out of all he's totally with this ridiculous thing to say. well it's on the way, michel juppe will be here. michel, good to see. what do you think this going kicking off with gary lineker . think this going kicking off with gary lineker. i think this going kicking off with gary lineker . i know i think this going kicking off with gary lineker. i know i had this fantastic sherpa planned. i knew what i was doing and then. boom, this came along and ruined it so yes, i will of it all. so yes, i will of course. but getting into all of this thing, reactions this lineker thing, reactions that and what a great guest i've got i happen have the founder of

the free speech union it's almost like our plan that while paul embery is well he's been in trouble previously for being outspoken on political topics so interested in that lots of reaction as well i've looking at so the lineker story and also i want to look at the plan that's kicked all of this off there's been a summit hasn't between sunak and macron the first one in many years some stuff's out of that so let's have a little delve into it, see what was created. all controversy in the first place. yeah, well, it sounds a cracking sounds like a cracking show. thank daphne . watching thank you, daphne. watching that. is it? a stay us on that. what is it? a stay us on gb i'm just going to read gb news. i'm just going to read some by the way, some of your tweets, by the way, some of your tweets, by the way, some the messages you sent some of the messages you sent with regard to lineker, patricia , that shook lineker up on his body. he has gone as well. he obviously agrees with tweet. obviously agrees with the tweet. it's bbc being it's time the bbc being a broadcaster left and went broadcaster on the left and went back to being as used to be it's been full of left wing folk who have their own agenda a long time and it's a shame i don't watch and begrudge the fee. that's what she's saying that a

lot of people are saying similar things. stephen says lineker. simple. lineker things thinks he's better than the bbc and joe says how sad never mind gordon gets it wrong laugh out very good.i gets it wrong laugh out very good. i like that . well, it's good. i like that. well, it's been a pleasure as ever. thank you much for joining been a pleasure as ever. thank you much forjoining me. i'll do one more. diane says government needs to defend and fund gb news the people's channel. and what a way to. end this and thank you so much for your company. i'm back tomorrow my usual time for six on saturday night it's sunday. me there michel sunday. joining me there michel is next. hello, i'm esther is up next. hello, i'm esther mcvey and i'm phillip davis. this saturday, we've got an exclusive with the chancellor. i'm not going to have another leadership campaign. never again. you like do never again. we'll be asking you about. corporation tax rises, energy prices. we'll also be asking him about time as secretary of state for and chair of the for health and chair of the health select committee and whether had whether not we should have had such fierce lockdown. it's an such a fierce lockdown. it's an interview can't miss. interview that you can't miss. so join us this saturday 10 to

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well, hello there. it's 6:00 michelle dewberry and this is dewbs & co. have you seen the dewbs& co. have you seen the latest news ? it's only just latest news? it's only just recently happened . take a look recently happened. take a look at this. do you fear getting suspended? no well, vega, that was gary lineker. suspended? no well, vega, that was gary lineker . did you see was gary lineker. did you see his tweets earlier on this week? he was referring to germany in the 19 instances. in response to the 19 instances. in response to the government's plans about how to manage the small budget crisis . well, i'll tell you crisis. well, i'll tell you what, he was absolute adamant that he was going to be presenting much of the day this weekend . but guess