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fox. riddle me this . as i was riddle me this. as i was wondering down the street in south london this morning towards a mob of blue had woken runs tears rolling down their mask covered faces at the sheer injustice of anyone objecting to a dude in a dress , twerking in a a dude in a dress, twerking in a child's face. i was struck by yet another peculiar, inconsistent tsi of their already unfathomable ideology. why i wanted to myself are they so desperate to make sure that toddlers have access to half naked men's offices in noisy pubs .7 but they get all sensitive pubs? but they get all sensitive and supposedly about supposedly dirty words in classic roald dahl books . why will they dahl books. why will they delight in the stocking of school libraries with books about how to get with your fellow five year olds, but suddenly transforming to mary whitehouse on steroids ? when it whitehouse on steroids? when it comes to references about women sometimes having jobs, quote , sometimes having jobs, quote, typing letters for a businessman . in roald dahl's the witches , . in roald dahl's the witches, i'm not sure . if there is a hard i'm not sure. if there is a hard and fast answer to this conundrum, but it all has a

slight end of days feel to it, doesn't it? a crack in the door of what is to come, perhaps? or is it , as i of what is to come, perhaps? or is it, as i suspect it? is, that the nasty little woke virus is mutating again, this time away from the trans community, having rinks that wonder by and on to drag artists . i went to a drag drag artists. i went to a drag show in blackpool once as part a birthday weekend and it was really fabulous. it was a drag wizard of oz and it was far better than about 90% of the national theatres output beautifully staged , performed beautifully staged, performed and sang, very tongue in cheek , and sang, very tongue in cheek, naughty and hugely watchable. the adults in the audience loved it. you'd have to be a real drag not to enjoy the queen's. but some of the footage seen from these new children's drag events are million kids miles further down the yellow brick road . and down the yellow brick road. and that evening in blackpool and makes my skin crawl . this makes my skin crawl. this relatively new phenomenon of parading half naked around children whilst parents consume noble quantities of giggle juice

is in danger of doing damage to the whole drag art form in the eyes of joe public, who has grown up belly laughing to panto dames rather than grimacing dames rather than grimacing dames in pants. rupaul had it right before he predictably rolled back on his comments about trans to prevent himself from being cancelled when he said drag loses its sense of danger and extensive irony once it's not men doing it because at its core it's a social statement and a big f—you to male dominated culture. the parasitic woke brigade. i don't care who they destroy in the name of progressive kindness. if drag artists have to suffer on the interminable work journey to the sexualisation of children , sexualisation of children, whether complicit or not, then so be it. and then there's the schools , the hundreds of freedom schools, the hundreds of freedom of information requests sent to schools across the land about the current horrors , psat and the current horrors, psat and rac lessons and the hypersexualization and racialisation of children in school bravery highlighted by

tory mp miriam cates and others . gender, ideology , skin colour . gender, ideology, skin colour privilege . diversity. equity and privilege. diversity. equity and inclusion . and all the other inclusion. and all the other symptoms of woke infection are ever present as this peculiar desire for the school and the state. top precedent when deaung state. top precedent when dealing with introducing kids to the beds and the bees of inappropriate ages ahead of parental choice and guidance . at parental choice and guidance. at some point , parental choice and guidance. at some point, we're going to have to draw a line in the sand before. we get another minority group as exploited and then discarded fuel what could discarded to fuel what could once. discarded to fuel what could once . perhaps it's time to make once. perhaps it's time to make drug grades again by returning it to the quirky and adult only form of yesteryear and away from the seedier of this modern, child focussed iteration. perhaps also, we can make childhood innocent again by getting rid of rc entirely in schools. so kids can go back to being kids rather than indoctrinated sex in the making . so tonight i am asking you, are we over sexualising our children .

are we over sexualising our children. email me at gbviews@gbnews.uk uk or tweet at .gb . gb news. first up tonight, you may or may not know that i attended a rally today in protest against drugs. with drugs , screen cream, great with drugs, screen cream, great story type . now cards on the story type. now cards on the table . i do like a drug show. table. i do like a drug show. i love the artistry, the time, the effort, the creativity that goes into it. however, i don't it's appropriate content or entertainment for children. so are some become so angry about it. joining me is the chief operating officer of turning point uk and fellow protester nick tan tony. nick, why can't you just leave those children alone? leave the drug queen's alone? leave the drug queen's alone ? yeah, i'm bad guy. we're alone? yeah, i'm bad guy. we're the bad guys. all bad guys. so i think you said a few things there about how the situation is fathomable and this end of days

feel to it. so what about protesters? jewish, openly gay man in alongside us in front of the un, in front of the mob and mob screaming at him, you're a, so i don't even know what to say anymore. and i think that you've surmised it quite, quite well. actually, this is very new territory. so woke has all different. the religion of woke has all different aspects to it and all sorts nonsense behind it. where do we go with this? i'm probably too tired to be as diplomatic as i should be, so i will say this. i wrote we a right to protest. we have a right to protest. we have a right say that our culture should look as x, y, z, and they have a right our as our opponents to say actually should look as ex as a, b, c for. and i've got no issue with that. so yes, we have safeguarding , i've got no issue with that. so yes, we have safeguarding, as you've already mentioned , and you've already mentioned, and this is the line in the other thing you mentioned was the line needs be drawn and i agree we have safeguarding issues, but what's with me saying what's wrong with me saying actually this end of actually not having this end of well, not right , the

well, it's not right, the government are about to say, you know, don't have know, having it, you don't have the to protest. and the right to protest. and of course, think, that is course, you think, well, that is something i feel very something that i feel very strongly very about. i strongly about, very about. i don't see as anything other than ushering a new era ushering in a new era authoritarianism based off of the of the lockdown files . and the of the lockdown files. and what you say is driving what would you say is driving this? because to me, it seems like the drag queens are getting caughtin like the drag queens are getting caught in the middle of something that they didn't really to be involved in. really want to be involved in. you i said, you know, you know, as i said, you know, i went to the show in blackpool a lot of sort of great understanding of queens, understanding of drag queens, but fun and this sort of but it was fun and this sort of move over into this area, mean move over into this area, i mean it doesn't drag queens, it doesn't benefit drag queens, does way. it feels does it, in a way. it feels quite it's to quite homophobic it's going to bnng quite homophobic it's going to bring latent. i'm bring out the latent. i'm a failure in people. do you think that of complicit or do you think this is a driver being pushed in that direction? again, i but the history i don't know. but the history books the answer to books will tell us the answer to that one. what know is, is that one. what i do know is, is that one. what i do know is, is that i think it was a de vast majority of those in the trans lgbt community drag queens lgbt community and, drag queens are shouldn't be in are saying this shouldn't be in front they're front of children and they're saying openly as

saying that openly as a worldwide about it, worldwide movement about it, it's not mums, dads, sensible, more common people more common sense people or right patriots. just right wing patriots. it's just common what about common sense. and what about this sort of this this odd sort of juxtaposition between puritanical word jiggling puritanical l word jiggling with rolled and then this very rolled over and then this very free and loose and easy reaction to kids and men naked man. sure. again, it's so confusing because on the one hand, people throw around the world lefty a lot and then see the anarcho communist demographic there and then the socialist demographic. they seem hold club together and it seems be they want to watch the world burn. there is no logic anymore. there is no rhyme reason. and if they want to behave like children, be treated children, they'll be treated as such requires a firm such and that requires a firm hand fairly authoritarian hand and a fairly authoritarian approach regard to anything approach in regard to anything that's serious to say domestic that's a serious to say domestic terrorism, which i'd say and anarcho is . and anarcho communism is. and unfortunately, i don't know what the answer is, but i know that at street level and in terms of at street level and in terms of a call to action to the british public, something has to be done and need to start reversing and we need to start reversing it. doing this is a line it. on doing work this is a line to foreign and james's in

to foreign and st james's in piccadilly, james's in piccadilly, james's church in piccadilly, james's church in piccadilly they piccadilly last saturday they were advertising to a in that church it's going for church and it's a going for christianity regard and christianity in that regard and then children that's then going for children that's a declaration as far as i'm declaration of war as far as i'm concerned. okay. so it's declaration war. what about declaration of war. what about freedom know, freedom of speech? so, you know, like we've seen this today with gary. treatment of gary. i think the treatment of him is wrong. i think two day, two storms are a good idea. and i believe cancelling i don't believe in cancelling people, i think people, however odious. i think they are, which gary, by they are, which i do. gary, by they are, which i do. gary, by the idiots. but i'm the way, you idiots. but i'm sorry, he is shouting more than is doing it again. but what about freedom of speech? i mean, what saw today was as though he were having a nice time going. guys, can you talk about this and they were just going fascist scum fascists coming out trying to interview people that no in talking and also they looked a little bit like a rental mob. sure. so what so many good . so sure. so what so many good. so where do i start? freedom of speech must reign supreme. i interview lot street, interview campus level, i interview an awful lot. and when you ask , i awful lot. and when you ask, i don't what's beneath the don't know what's beneath the gen but ask the 18 to 25

gen zs but you ask the 18 to 25 year olds. does freedom year olds. now what does freedom mean you? they genuinely mean to you? they genuinely know. say freedom of know. i say it's freedom of speech freedom of movement within my within our land and economic well. economic freedom as well. so that the window, far that is now out the window, far as concerned. so as they're concerned. so freedom, counsel, freedom, should they be counsel, no speech, absolute . no freedom of speech, absolute. the that we were faced off the mob that we were faced off against today were rude, unkind, unpleasant . and a lot of the unpleasant. and a lot of the liberal virtue signalling, a narcissistic personality disorder, customers of drug story and those affluent people within , that demographic where within, that demographic where we were today, they had children with them. there were kids there today. the expletives . on 25th today. the expletives. on 25th at the honorary pub, two guys broke as 100 cops, two guys broke as 100 cops, two guys broke the law and one of them was found with a knife on them, three eggs through bananas, etcetera . so in terms of etcetera. so in terms of policing, illegalities , if policing, illegalities, if anything comes under assault or , stuff that i don't necessarily know about , then fine. know about, then that's fine. freedom speech reign supreme. freedom of speech reign supreme. so stood there , all of us so we stood there, all of us today, guys , as you want to have today, guys, as you want to have a conversation with you, we want

to talk you. did you notice how diverse the was well? diverse the group was as well? it's what struck me when it's what really struck me when arrived was i looked at a from the opposing side was a bunch of middle class white people. yeah and what struck me from our side, as you said we had a openly gay jewish man with with the jewish national flag around him , had a lot of people of him, had a lot of people of colour. we women and with such a difference it couldn't be more diverse. i was confronted with the exact clip. what you see walking through dulwich, pushing a pushchair towards that million pound house, what is their socio economic element to this? i would love to talk more about this. so i dropped a thousand leaflets the day before across the area all the brass on the front doors was polished everyone had high spec cars outside the houses. i don't know about strollers, but i'm presuming there are some that are very cheap and some that are very expensive. strollers everywhere. mums everywhere. every had building work.

every house had building work. this is expensive stuff. renovations the mama and papa bngade renovations the mama and papa brigade were out all the all the cyclists were out . no litter cyclists were out. no litter anywhere. it was cherry tree on steroids. that's a thousand leaflets. that's a thousand homes. that's a lot of raw data. what did i smell ? affluence. what did i smell? affluence. what did i smell? affluence. what did i smell? affluence. what did i smell . what did i smell? affluence. what did i smell. i what did i smell? affluence. what did i smell . i smell what did i smell. i smell a demographic that's looking for problems. that's potentially and i did a little five minute video, which i haven't had a chance to edit yet, but that raw data that's real that area why is the business mind behind drug store or drag brunch or cabo barber rave. why are they earmarking in those affluent areas of london? why would i can name several villages and towns where i know for a fact that wouldn't happen and? council estates where that wouldn't happen ? why is it? why are these happen? why is it? why are these if could mind it as an if we could mind map it as an organisation, are these organisation, why are these companies like uk earmarking those specific sites with specific demographics at £23 a ticket or £22.50 a ticket or

whatever? it's because there's demand for it. so we can we learn a lot about the individual in that particular area. when i was doing this thousand homes, it was very, very insightful, very interesting about the demographics there. drug story, uk, obviously kong we need to have a right to express their feelings as to and replies to why they're doing that. but what you're basically saying to me is that there is sense of that there is a sense of affluent boredom is driving these movements and drives the white movement. you uncorrected my assessment that what happens is it moves and it jumps from minority groups to minority group to divide us still further. so when first into metoo then into race then it's trans and i think they've milked trans and i think they've milked trans dry for want a better analogy and now they're going, well let's kick the drag queens who have been for years honing this out and now they're suddenly the enemy but it's really dreadful i think what you're saying is spot on but i think that it's a far more simplistic than that. i think we need to go to the source. i

think it's the liberal narcissistic personality disorder, absence of disorder, the absence of the absence the godlessness. absence of war, the godlessness. i believe for one second i don't believe for one second that anyone opponents on that anyone of our opponents on saturday 25th i think it was five, five, three, 3 to 500 from the aerial view and today as well a fearing patriots well a god fearing patriots i they're godless and i think the it's to your point i think that there a without complicating there is a without complicating it specific it there's a very specific market. a very market. there was a very specific and some specific demographic. and some reason they have their way , our reason they have their way, our institutions and our government don't want to get their hands dirty in the culture war. so turning uk fellow good turning point uk fellow good people and calvin people like yourself and calvin , we will lead the charge then because seems have because it seems they have a right of freedom of expression, freedom speech. they've freedom of speech. but they've crossed there is crossed over and there is definitely inherently wrong with mums who are okay with mums and dads who are okay with putting their children in front of filth time reclaim of this filth time to reclaim the uk reclaim our the uk and reclaim our children's futures. nick tacconi, thank you very much . tacconi, thank you very much. coming next, i'm talking to coming up next, i'm talking to drag queen and performer valentino von gallo about why about why i am blowing cars, why

i'm blowing all this out of proportion , no fashion, true proportion, no fashion, true class .

boy welcome back. joining me now , the fabulous drag queen and performer vanity yvonne blow to

talk about drag storytelling and suitable entertainment for children. let's quickly take a look at vanity in action . on tv look at vanity in action. on tv . ratings . look at vanity in action. on tv . ratings. i imagine , tyler, . ratings. i imagine, tyler, you're obviously . masterpiece you're obviously. masterpiece and you say . you're obviously. masterpiece and you say. no . and you say. no. i to go. i want and you say. no. ito go. i want to go now . really good . i have to go now. really good. i have to go now. really good. i have to go now. after this. i have a show i'll be flying on when you. yeah, i'm storm in a teacup. is it just that far right extremists sort of trying to ruin drag. i don't think they're bothered about ruining drag . i bothered about ruining drag. i think that some people have concerns about what's right to show kids and i do understand

that, you know, i've made a defence of drag queen story time because definitely because there's definitely a version of that that i think is totally acceptable for kids. you know, i were open a book know, if i were to open a book now to kids, i think now read to kids, i don't think those kids being exploited those kids are being exploited or traumatised. i think it would be very boring for me. i mean, i can't think of anything worse than performing to children and ihave than performing to children and i have performed in sheffield , i have performed in sheffield, so i make defence of it without it being something i'm interested in myself because i do think that some of the artists are trying to bring some joy artists are trying to bring some joy to young families with their performance and with their art. they're they're not really in the best position to necessarily defend themselves because the intensity of the conversations is become really a bit a bit much so that's really interesting. i was speaking to nick before and. i've got this feeling that the kind of the seedy aspects of what i would call, whoa, cory, you know, this sort of white thing, use these

sort of white thing, use these sort of white thing, use these sort of minority groups to advance the division in society and, you know, and i have this great memory of this drug show in blackpool i went to is incredible. so it feels like drag queens have been taken out of the area where they've been performing for years and now. they're into the limelight . and they're into the limelight. and do you think that's a result of the choice of drag queens, or do you think that's a result? choices of a movement behind that? i mean, i think that the drag queens are autonomous creatures . performers have no creatures. performers have no difficulty finding spaces to perform and do their . and drag perform and do their. and drag has a very, very broad spectrum and so on the one end, you've got the sort of glamour zone model which is your supermodel type of drag, and you also have more perhaps quite sexually provocative . and then you've got provocative. and then you've got the good old pig in a wig at the end of the pier as well, which we have much of here in the uk. but there's also no of the popularity of drag race and

stuff like that. you've now that glamazon almost there's like tv presenter style drag the holly willoughby drag . i can think of willoughby drag. i can think of some friends of mine who perform in that way and nothing really in that way and nothing really in their show. that's you know, particularly or unacceptable. it's a bit come out it's a bit silly and that's the sort of queeni silly and that's the sort of queen i could see reading tickets and it's not a big issue. so i think the reading ticketing is absolutely fine by the end. i have any problem with it. weirdly for someone who everyone is a, but everyone thinks is a, but i would say that that some of the stuff that one scene. yeah. online the whole thing off vote of a mini skirt and you know twerking in front a child for me that would cross line but it crossed that line with you i don't have children, but i don't think that's the type of show i would be taking. my kids to, because while i can understand the argument that it's not necessarily appropriate, i make the distinction between there's lots of things that aren't what i would choose to do with my

niece, for example, i wouldn't have her watching an 18 rated film when she's six years old or playing violent games, perhaps, but do the rights of parents but i do the rights of parents to make decisions , what to make the decisions, what content children consume . content their children consume. and don't think that just and i also don't think that just because a performance is inappropriate means that it's exploitative, means that it's grooming, then i have some sympathy for the point. you just making i'm aware here at making about i'm aware here at gb news people are very concerned creeping concerned about the creeping movement . one of the moments movement. one of the moments that you're known for was on question time, where you pushed against the idea that this is a racist country. and i think that some people have misgivings about the ex—pat lending definition some terms racist. definition of some terms racist. so there's been a some i would say a concept inflation where ever increasing behaviours are defined under that umbrella . defined under that umbrella. there's an argument for that . i there's an argument for that. i think what's happening here is that we're seeing a concept inflation of terms like grooming because as far as i'm concerned and beyond, say performer , doing

and beyond, say performer, doing , single ladies are doing in love, who's doing a bit of asha licking and shaking a tail feather is actually doing they're doing the assignment that's the performance is and there doesn't need to be another reason for why they're performing. they're performing beyonce and beyonce. she shakes her. and beyonce. i did did her super show and did a hell super bowl show and did a hell of a lot more. so i think there is there would be sympathy to say, why are you stigmatising the drag community for doing this, not stigmatising beyonce if not and agree with if they're not and i agree with you, do you call it, you, what do you call it, concept conceptualisation? yeah but. okay how do we how do we deflate that concept? how do we bnng deflate that concept? how do we bring it back down so that we can so that we can have a reasonable conversation, which we have about what is and isn't what we think is and isn't appropriate without sort of constant expanding these constant expanding this these concepts them. i concepts and inviting them. i think needs to think everyone on both needs to have integrity about the have more integrity about the language use . i'm not language that they use. i'm not one those people who likes to one of those people who likes to go other people go around telling other people what they should say, and

what words they should say, and i absolutely are free to i absolutely believe are free to use the that they want to use the terms that they want to use the terms that they want to use to things they see use to the things as they see it. at the same time, let's it. but at the same time, let's not let's use a sort of minimal necessary force. let's let's not just because annoyed that just because you're annoyed that there's performance place there's a performance place somewhere that you're uncomfortable with use the most extreme and in public extreme language and in public discourse like the language of grooming i mean , i myself grooming and i mean, i myself have behaved immodestly in the past, but i kind of rather right. but i draw the line at being a right? yeah and that's part i draw a line a bit. i draw the line at. sorry for saying always sorry. it's a forbidden word of the watershed. sorry i said no. so now is that it? three times. i'm sorry sorry. sorry. thanks. i've come. we're all friends again. what was i trying to say? yeah. so if we can say exactly these three inflammatory words like racist and, and stuff like that. we want . we want to. we want to want. we want to. we want to bnng want. we want to. we want to bring them back in to use words accurately and correct data to in order to connect better , in order to connect better, really, rather than using

inflammatory language which i'm very guilty of often . well, and very guilty of often. well, and i do think that our way forward is back together . like i had is back together. like i had a conversation at gb news with calvin robinson other day, and my approach is to try and have the conversation in with a bit of but try and approach it from a fairly muted point of view . it a fairly muted point of view. it can become quite extreme and i understand why some people who have in the eye of this storm have in the eye of this storm have been under such attack because of performances that they've done you you know, it's so frustrating because some of these performers i know they're like proper artists and their work is being described as if it was flashing in the street. and that's literally not the same thing. you're an actor you know that when are a kissing that when you are a kissing scene the are not doing that scene you the are not doing that scene you the are not doing that scene for some weird sexual thrill you're doing it because the has asked for kissing the story has asked for kissing in that scene you a job to do in the same way that i find it very uncomfortable that whenever whenever as an whenever i had to do it as an actor find very actor find it very very uncomfortable. i it. uncomfortable. yeah i hated it. yeah so i know what you're

yeah so know i know what you're saying, but so are we in agreement that there is there are elements to the children's children focussed drug stuff which, which is too much and that we should also and appreciate it the non—sexual version of what drug. i think there's room to appreciate that there's room to appreciate that there is a kind of disney princess that to me i my favourite drag is sabertooth to drag it should be quite cut into . well you're right. you know that's, that's i enjoy, that's what i like to do. i didn't mean, like to limit my own performances by failing my teeth down that way. so i think down in that way. so i think that we should maybe i think there's a lot of people that probably not seen a drug show in a long time and don't realise that they moved on. since lily savage there's still stuff like lily savage out there. thank god. there are quite god. and yes, there are quite racy performances that take place. there have been instances of a couple of those that i've place in. they've been young

people there because it's babies and show for and that's really a show for the mums. yeah. mums will mums. yeah. you know mums will take babies to see take their babies to see a screening of 15 rated movie screening of a 15 rated movie sometime. but maybe they sometime. no, but maybe they shouldn't. for the shouldn't. well that's for the parents think parents to decide i think i agree. and well, nancy, thank you very much for coming on and being so balanced and generous with and right coming with your time and right coming up, you putting me on the spot? oh, no . and i get your reaction oh, no. and i get your reaction to first half of the show to my first half of the show coming .

in three. so earlier on, i asked you, are we over sexualising children? and here are some of your reactions to the show. and if you think we are indeed over sexualising children, some says it's even a debate . that's it's not even a debate. that's clear. says most definitely clear. jane says most definitely innocent kids be kids they grow up far too quickly as it is. i

have say i'm a bit of an amen on that one. i agree with you. another viewer has tweeted it was a part, a non—existent event. that's not true. it wasn't existent. you need do wasn't existent. you need to do your they took it your research. they just took it down walls. it was down off their walls. it was onune h down off their walls. it was online it parents wanted to online. it parents wanted to take their kids there. it was their own choice. okay cracking liberal adam tweeted. liberal there, adam tweeted. now, i asked to put me on the spot. no didn't read that. what's happened? that was that implied it's come backwards. this oh yeah . now we're on to implied it's come backwards. this oh yeah. now we're on to me on what i think stuff. god i'm good. on what i think stuff. god i'm good . i'm learning. guys, stay good. i'm learning. guys, stay with me . i'm good. i'm learning. guys, stay with me. i'm doing so well. white fox on the spot . what are white fox on the spot. what are your views on lineker being cancelled by the bbc? i don't like anybody being cancelled. i just say it's ridiculous . i just say it's ridiculous. i think his opinions are odious virtue signalling rubbish and i think that it's an example of the fact that how ever hard you try and hide from this massive woke cancelling monster, however virtuous you are, however much kneeling you do , how much kneeling you do, how much screaming to the skies about how

diverse and extra bullying inclusive you are, you're still going to lose your job after a two day twitter pylon. it's called cancel culture. that's the enemy, not gary bauer of lineker . not the enemy, not gary bauer of lineker. not clear enough anyway , coming up , time dishing out my , coming up, time dishing out my thoughts with . jim dale on thoughts with. jim dale on climate change, another good one for me and the sun amongst our back.

in three. now, every week i dish it out with someone interesting and fascinating and i was enough to sit down with a meteorologist risk analysis today and yeah, we argued about climate change put it that way i know risk meteorology and founder of

british services. that's correct. welcome thank you, meterology. this is quite hard say, isn't it? it is. it's hard to spell as well. most people dropping off somewhere. there's 3 hours in the day. what is meteorologist something to do with the weather which a risk meteorologist a risk to meteorologist a risk to meteorologist thing. okay well look the weather is a risk as is climate. we all know that we live in it and we all know. yeah, i think most of us know it . look, we live the weather and i've been doing this for 40 odd years. the royal navy first and then my own company, british weather services. so kind of how can i put this? you get into sort of way that the weather works not just in an extreme way when it really really impacts as in the uk over the last few days but even day i'm a big believer the weather is actually our biggest influencer by nothing i'm talking about the external now so it affects us in so many

ways and that's why i get involved in so many areas in terms of what i actually do. i was it was interesting that you said you've been working in the weather 40 years because i think it's not miles away from 1984, which was the year i remember the climate being mentioned to me by mrs. struthers in five s at bishop gilpin school, wimbledon, as they do and i'm she told me that by the millennium the world would there'd be no petrol anymore and there'd be no petrol anymore and the was going to end unless we all looked after the environment hasn't ended alexandra so occasion occasional quartette or whatever our name is in i said we've got 11 years now. nine. do you think that these predictions of the weather , of the of the weather, of the apocalyptic prediction are helpful do you think the world is going is going through ? i is going is going through? i think if you put on it probably

not because you stand to fall . not because you stand to fall. and did you say mrs. stanford struthers struthers struthers. if you're listening, you've probably got a good guess on it. but but look , i wouldn't even do but but look, i wouldn't even do this after forecasting the weather on a day to day basis can be a bit of wrong from time to time. i know that to my peril, but it's not exact science. neither is climatology . so to try to sort the say the end of the world will be is nigh or it will be next or will be ten years. is that wrong? is wrong thing to do. but we are on a slippery slope as far as co2 levels and global warming is concerned. too good for don't eat it. absolutely nothing wrong nothing wrong with that side of things. but it isn't good for us and it isn't good for the warming of the earth because it is it creates a blanket. we live in what's called the troposphere , which is which the tropopause is at the top of that which is between eight and 30 miles high and. that's what we exist. and

if that warms up to then we get the effects of global warming. it's like a blanket, if you like, around earth. so like, around, around earth. so whilst good plants and whilst it's good for plants and they, they need it , they, they, they, they need it, they, it's not good for ourselves in terms of the warming oceans, the warming so just warming atmosphere. so just thinking about that because i'm stupid , i know nothing about the stupid, i know nothing about the climate. have instincts climate. i just have instincts that are people use the climate. i i would absolutely accept that we need to look after the planet and all of these things. but i sometimes feel that that's the good stuff we use. we use the climate is used, you know, city car in london example uses the climate to act as a way of taxation in the of salvation with all of ulez and everything like that, creating all these people that are dying. we'll take one. yes died since take one. yes has died since 2001 from pollution as a contributing factor where you got that figure for all this is not just stick. okay so my statistics will i look so i'm is a side issue for me in terms of the wet it's not pure weather

but it's associated with i know terms of the scientific papers that i look for example in the world some 7 to 8 million people a year die of pollution diseases in one form or another, and 50,000 of those to be in and around the london area, though, you think 50,000 people a year are dying from climate ? probably are dying from climate? probably from it, from pollution, from. well, that's what the say. i'm not there to argue whether it be 20,000 whether it be 20,000, 50,000 in 2000 or one. it's perhaps one too many. but, you know what? on the way on the way here today, you know, you're going through the traffic you can actually feel it through through your car. it's not a it's not a nice thing to no one likes pollution. we want but if you think about pollution and in the climate and you know and you think about this, the one that really bothers me is this sort think about this, the one that reayou»others me is this sort think about this, the one that reayou know, me is this sort think about this, the one that reayou know, thatis this sort think about this, the one that reayou know, that the|is sort think about this, the one that reayou know, that the vegans of, you know, that the vegans that go on about eating meat and stuff and they've all avocado munching almond chewing people,

as was pointed out. i'm trying get there by the way. but anyway go it . there's go alright. go for it. there's nothing wrong with that. you know at the end of the day we know at the end of the day we know that certain, certain things that we do this world, things that we do in this world, whether it be burning fossil fuels or whether it's too many cows in feel put in and methane gases , all the rest of it. they gases, all the rest of it. they do have a detrimental effect, not not on a daily basis, but certainly over time. and this is the thing that's aggregated since industrial revolution and so it's a time we need to do something about it. i want to say we may be the fossil fuel companies should they make enough profit to be able say, okay, maybe we'll to okay, well, maybe we'll start to some of that co2 back in the ground and that with the plants back forest, how would back in the forest, how would they do well, don't want they do that? well, i don't want to into too detail because to go into too detail because i'm capable of going i'm not not capable of going that not an engineer or that far. i'm not an engineer or , in that saying, , you know, in in that saying, call it carbon capture . exactly call it carbon capture. exactly that. so climate change and the way that we're going, it's what

we want to do is not a revolution . it's an evolution. revolution. it's an evolution. it can't be a revolution . i it can't be a revolution. i mean, for example, i now drive a hybnd mean, for example, i now drive a hybrid car. i don't drive an electric full electric. why? because i know we haven't got the influence that this has not put the infrastructure there to enable seamless travel from a to b to c all the way through this country. there's an undercut there. it happens. other countries that move in a little bit quicker, i think we'll get there. what would that trick electric safari . i've got electric safari. i've got a feeling it's a bit of a fad, especially those poor congolese . that electric . and the fact that electric vehicles require so many minerals , metals and rare earth minerals, metals and rare earth metals and stuff that you that at the of day that sort of 70% more than the net petrol . well more than the net petrol. well look while we're in this zone while we're in the evolution zone this band we're bound to be swapping , zone this band we're bound to be swapping, you zone this band we're bound to be swapping , you know, zone this band we're bound to be swapping, you know, ideas and technologies in other words to get there. and it will be almost , you know, one step forward and maybe step back and then two steps forward. and once that and

that's how going to be, it's not going a flick of your going to be a flick of your fingers and we're going to get there. but it's like, how can i put this? know, we all have put this? you know, we all have to be individually of what to be individually aware of what we're it's like you we're doing. it's a bit like you live, know, you live in your live, you know, you live in your house and you see your next neighbour tape. and he's been in front all the front garden. and then all the next done is are you going next when done is are you going to as well you're going to do that as well you're going to do that as well you're going to add to the pile, are you going to say to them, are you going to say to them, are you going say, well, actually, going to say, well, actually, that's do that? that's not the way to do that? i'm of that on the side. i'm part of that on the side. that's finance. i wouldn't like me interfering with what he does. know what say it does. well know what i'd say it would absolutely say. well, would you absolutely say. well, maybe, in maybe, maybe we end up in a vijay. know, there's some vijay. you know, there's some good some fights, good fights, some bad fights, and sometimes in anything. that's people, that's what bothers people, though, which is the though, in a way, which is the fact that know we're providing 1% in 1% of the world's pollution in the is building a coal the uk. china is building a coal fired power station every week in and next door coal fired power station. the solar powered stations , they build all of our stations, they build all of our solar panels, but we do that. we can do it. so do you know the

average joe would just sit and 90, average joe would just sit and go, this is just a joke. the average joe isn't what you take your lead from . that's part of your lead from. that's part of the problem we've got, particularly in the uk . well, particularly in the uk. well, look , think that we did take the look, think that we did take the lead from experts the last two years and we've killed our economy, our children's education. and it was all big hope. when you say experts, what do you mean by that ? well, you do you mean by that? well, you know, experts follow the know, the experts follow the science, as we're told. that depends which science you're looking at. well, i think more broadly, the science itself is rubbish to the where, you rubbish to the point where, you know, had to had to know, someone had to had to release a million. let's not on to that. but i'm saying your average joe, we really must i completely agree with you. your average joe. you want to educate your average joe? they can your average joe? yeah they can make choices. i'm glad you make their choices. i'm glad you said not so they have said that. not so that they have a credit system whereby a carbon credit system whereby you have two sirloin you can only have two sirloin steak a month. education is a big big factor in all of this and nil education. no education is on the other side of that

where people speak without education. i'm not necessary really the person who's going to be there saying this is what you should do every day. and i can i can be led as much as i can lead. i can only go so far my brief, my own upbringing, education, knowledge and what i've what i've experienced through time , particularly with through time, particularly with weather and climate takes me so far . there are better people far. there are better people than me. there's more educated people than me. we need to be led by we shouldn't be led by the sheep. we should be led by those people. yeah. and look, science come should we be science come back. should we be led by to degree. there's led by to a degree. there's well, to a degree or to stick 18 year old doesn't matter where these or to say that that makes no difference whatsoever. okay an 18 year old even an year old, some of those of those some of those some of those people looked for many years some of those some of those peop we ooked for many years some of those some of those peop we don't for many years some of those some of those peop we don't have|any years some of those some of those peop we don't have been'ears some of those some of those peop we don't have been saying now, we don't have been saying this of us being this before. any of us being special scientist. she's special climate scientist. she's scaring a generation of children half you know, half to death. you know, children very children growing. they're very aware climate, but can aware of the climate, but can you not see there you not see that there is a possibility here for people to

use the climate to control other people? i that, you know, this is what they do they what now? bill gates ? you know, why did bill gates? you know, why did you fly over in the private jet goes well i just pay in my carbon credits and i you know i have first belt or whatever you know person can't know your average person can't you should your you swapping around should your average person of the average person that and i'll just person can do that and i'll just give you one example is that you you may well swap your nice you you may well swap your nice b steak for something that is on the other side of that wall is a little bit less well well , well, little bit less well well, well, there's enough there's. little bit less well well, well, there's enough there's . what you there's enough there's. what you call it the, the, the plant type material process really well may be, but there are the choices beyond that as well i mean, i can ican beyond that as well i mean, i can i can consider the avocados . was it, was it good. yeah. so i suppose. are they fly them over from morocco. it causes massive amounts of pollution. well as i've already said to you, is not an science, you, this is not an science, it's not an solution . it's not an exact solution. there will always one step

there will be always one step forward, there is forward, one step back. there is an element of as well. but an element of that as well. but if are if we can agree that if we are if we can agree that we you i think the pollution the climate change the weather all of it is of joined by you know, joined by the hip to a certain degree. part of the degree. they're all part of the of planet that we live on. of the planet that we live on. and i think we all want to live on. nobody would say that we don't live a planet don't want to live on a planet thatis don't want to live on a planet that is clean , is healthy, that that is clean, is healthy, that we live long and prosper we can live long and prosper and, you know. so the notion a planet for our children. yeah, exactly . nobody's going to argue exactly. nobody's going to argue with that except the you know, the very extreme people in this for world own own political reasons , other reasons. so it's reasons, other reasons. so it's . not it's not what we do it's necessarily how we do it. how we do that is where the arguments are, if you like, the discussions are and that's going on all around. so there are people making their own choices, the right reasons. like i'm driving the hybrid rather driving to the hybrid car rather than other car because than the other car because i know a in the right

know that's a step in the right direction. american direction. and american congolese is for not congolese child is for not a congolese child is for not a congolese child. that's a step in the wrong direction because that's de down an that's all de down an unregulated mine with that breathing in poisonous fumes so that i think about ourselves. yeah i think the congolese the congolese person would look upon that as being you may well be right in terms of the way that some companies will approach their labour and they would actually do with them and the way the whites of an electric car , you know, the particulates car, you know, the particulates that the brake dust comes out of those and all this stuff, surely. is there not a case to be made that as we were raised when we were little, which, you know, want a better life know, want to make a better life for than we have that in the for our than we have that in the absence of the technology that doesn't involve subjugating a whole bunch whole congolese people child labourers to mining a poisonous vapours out of the ground . is there not an argument ground. is there not an argument say gdp, let's increase gdp globally that's let's get out of burning wood in to burning

something a bit less polluting . something a bit less polluting. so, you know, there is there is if people can afford it. i would not disagree at it. it's kind of carbon swapping. what you talking about? in other words, you getting to point where you're saying, can we you're saying, okay, what can we do these people away from do from these people away from burning wood to doing something else? talked else? and i know having talked to , do the carbon to people, do the carbon swapping thing, i don't. swapping type thing, i don't. but people sort organise but other people sort organise it make it happen . i know it and make it happen. i know want to see the fossil fuel companies that actually doing this their history. this to negate their history. let me not too much not the history we are where we are because the industrial revolution came along and we all went with it and that was the way that we got to the gdp's gps and all the rest of it, etc. other words that we became the economy was an industrial revolution. yeah, but you know what i remember the building what i remember in the building , but as well as that and at the time i as a young child and at a very young child walking around in the manchester area smog

atmosphere , choking literally , i atmosphere, choking literally, i remember it distinctly thinking this is just awful. and that was chimneys that was putting you know, burning the coal and all the rest. so we wanted to get away from that. and there was fights then to stop that, you know, to stop clean air act, know, to stop the clean air act, etc, etc. so look , the scrambles etc, etc. so look, the scrambles in the skirmishes that we're having along the way, the discussions even that we are having today, that part of the equafion having today, that part of the equation of going forward and making things better for us all and how we get that, what we are got, you know, as long as we're going the in the right direction for the right reasons and i take your point about congolese people and other people to be frank, if they weren't doing that, they'd probably be down a mine doing something else, gold or something . well, sadly, yes. or something. well, sadly, yes. that's way is. but to give that's the way is. but to give them chance , hopefully we them a chance, hopefully we can pull rather than push them down. we got to have that view . we've we got to have that view. we've got it. we've got to have that. so that's what you're saying about an evolution rather than revolution? been an revolution? it's been an absolute pleasure talking with

you thank so much. you and thank you so much. cheers good luck with it . my cheers good luck with it. my thanks to the brilliance . thanks to the brilliance. fantastic. laurence fox. he returns a week's time. it's mark tonight. a busy show for you. a gary lineker on the brink special . well, he has been special. well, he has been suspended by the bbc. he arrogantly said that he'd be hosting the show tomorrow night . but he's been sidelined. he's been benched by the management at the beeb. but are they enough? should he stand down all together now? i'm king free together now? i'm the king free speech, you know that . but the speech, you know that. but the bottom line is he the face of bottom line is he is the face of bbc. best paid staff. so if bbc. it's best paid staff. so if he can't be neutral , i don't he can't be neutral, i don't think he should be there. that is the topic of my big opinion monologue. we'll get reaction from one of most respected from one of the most respected journalists in, the country, former of sunday former editor of the sunday mirror, pollard, live in the mirror, eve pollard, live in the studio at the scandal. the drama threats in the future of the bbc , especially after they've taken such a kicking in relation to brexit and a single note

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