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news headlines headlines. it's 4:00. good afternoon. irene armstrong . the gb newsroom gary armstrong. the gb newsroom gary lineker has refused to say if he still works for the bbc after he faced questions from . faced questions from. journalists this morning, the match of the day host replied, i can't say anything as he left his london home, however, his sons tweeted , proud of his sons tweeted, proud of his father, and he shouldn't need to apologise for being good person. last night's episode of match of the day was watched by 2.6 million viewers. that's more than half a million more than the week despite airing the week before. despite airing without or pundits , without presenters or pundits, former bbc executive roger bolton says the controversies diverting away from the real issue is this argument about what is impartiality and who must impartial. that is a wider of course, the other thing that's happening here is the political parties, particularly the government governing parties see this as a wonderful opportunity. the wars to create trouble and divert attention from the fundamental issue which is illegal immigration, which is

extraordinary difficult to deal with . the prime minister is with. the prime minister is flying to the united to discuss the orcas defence deal between the orcas defence deal between the uk, the us and australia. it's hoped after a summit with biden, the australian premier , biden, the australian premier, announce the purchase of british nuclear powered submarines . it nuclear powered submarines. it follows talks this morning between rishi sunak and the secretary general , where the uk secretary general, where the uk reaffirmed its commitment help counter the threat of russia while in the united states. mr. is also expected to announce a defence and foreign policy update update . meanwhile, the update update. meanwhile, the prime minister recognised anxiety over the collapse of silicon valley bank. but the government is working to find a solution to customers liquidity and cash flow. rishi sunak says he doesn't believe a systematic risk to british tech companies, but the treasury working at pace to find a solution. chancellor and the governor of the bank of england have been in discussions to a financial backstop

to provide a financial backstop for . last friday. last for affected. last friday. last friday forbes american parent company became the biggest failure of us bank since the 2008 financial crisis. it is under us government's control . under us government's control. the health secretary has criticised junior doctors for failing to call off their strike tomorrow monday. writing in the telegraph , barclay's described telegraph, barclay's described the 72 hour walkout as incredibly disappointing. the british medical association has described mr. barclay's recent to negotiate as a feeble attempt to negotiate as a feeble attempt to stall us. it is expected to affect many service , including affect many service, including a&e, cancer care and maternity care . kevin mars, a former care. kevin mars, a former labour adviser , he told us there labour adviser, he told us there is still time to avoid the strike. there's a very, very small window. try and avert what's going to be catastrophic stoppage for the nhs. you know, half a million operate, half a million appointments cancelled . million appointments cancelled. i mean that's good that you know, the implication is that patient safety are pretty and

that will be lost. to be fair, i government or by oh the junior doctors and i suspect is steve bartlett comes forward with some sort of sincere a meaningful proposal that they make curtail the strike early . and it's one the strike early. and it's one of the biggest nights in hollywood later celebrities getting ready for the 95th oscar awards and british and irish talent are in with a chance of winning the off and asuran has become the most oscar nominated irish film of all time with nine nominations. british actor bill nighy is up for best actor for his role in the movie living, and andrea riseborough received , a best actress nomination for . her role in two leslie. however, showbiz reporter stephanie takyi says riseborough is nomination was unusual. last minute we had a wild card. andrea riseborough, she's british. so she is flying the flag for brits. but she starred in this film called leslie in which she plays an alcoholic and no one had heard about this movie. stephen it was literally

a week before nominations, and this what you call power this is what you call star power . people gwyneth paltrow, . people like gwyneth paltrow, charlize throne and charlize theron and jennifer aniston, they got behind it and campaigned and said this should up for oscar nominations. so it very much a nomination by social media. we'll see what happens in hollywood . we'll bring you more hollywood. we'll bring you more as it happens . but now let's get as it happens. but now let's get back to nana . back to nana. good afternoon. is fast approaching minutes after 4:00. this is a good news on tv online and on digital radio. i'm a beware . ides of march . now, beware. ides of march. now, a lot of people are talking as though the next party to lead this country will be a labour one, as though it is that keir starmer will be our next prime minister. that is as as of course the tories don't do a liz

truss in the meantime but with the news that the uk has unexpectedly a recession and with green shoots recovery on with green shoots of recovery on the horizon , could the tories the horizon, could the tories turn around .7 and even turn the ship around? and even if manage it, will anybody if they manage it, will anybody actually trust them? because it seems since vichy's acceptance by, ursula von der leyen, who i how can you forget the glazed eyes way she looked at him and the clear bromance between him and french president macron , the and french president macron, the vichy's leadership may well have legs, albeit not very long ones. oh, sorry, i couldn't resist. it would appear , according to would appear, according to a recent savanta , labour's lead recent savanta, labour's lead over , the conservative party has over, the conservative party has dropped to ii over, the conservative party has dropped to 11 points, its lowest since december. sir keir party, which has regularly had a 20 point lead in recent months , now point lead in recent months, now has 43% of the vote, which still high for the tories at 2% are closing the gap . rishi sunak's closing the gap. rishi sunak's landmark brexit and his hardline on immigration may well be hitting the mark with the virtuous people. in contrast, as the starmer's repeated u—turns,

where he appeared to have changed his stance on freedom of movement and decisions like appointment of supposedly impartial to high office following . her heading up the following. her heading up the policy case inquiry have left many to question his integrity and his judgement and what he can't even clarify when . he made can't even clarify when. he made his approach to listening to unsworth. answering this was painful or when and other painful or when he and other members of his party are not prepared to commit a definition of what is and state of what a woman is and state whether one has a penis or not, it's to see why. swing are it's easy to see why. swing are beginning to question whether the labour can be trusted the labour party can be trusted . surely they can't do any worse cabinet . so with the budget cabinet. so with the budget looming and whisper that jeremy hunt stick to his pledge to increase corporation tax to 25, what she gb news. in an exclusive interview he called the headline rate what she said. by the headline rate what she said. by the way, even at 25, is lower than nearly all our major rivals. you know, france germany and so on. and he also stated this, what we now have is a

response outlook for public finances the markets have recognised that by bringing down mortgage rates interest rates and we're on track to bring inflation down. but if you're saying to me as a conservative chancellor do i want to bring down taxes? well, i want to bnng down taxes? well, i want to bring down personal taxes because that is at the heart of what being a conservative is. but i want to bring down business taxes, even more . so business taxes, even more. so can we trust them? can we trust them to bring us back from the bnnk? them to bring us back from the brink? a britain gets argued they created is a labour win inevitable would they fare better. it's ironic that budget day corresponds with the day brutus betrayed caesar . beware brutus betrayed caesar. beware the ides of march . the ides of march. i mean of all daysi the ides of march. i mean of all days i would to pick that one right before we get stuck into the debate. here's what else is coming up today for the great british debate. this hour asking

coming up today for the great brithe debate. this hour asking coming up today for the great brithe director this hour asking coming up today for the great brithe director generalur asking coming up today for the great brithe director general ofasking coming up today for the great brithe director general of the ng so the director general of the bbc resign following lineker's suspension and the widespread strikes where numerous football presenters refused to their programmes. sport in support of the match of the day host pressure is mounting upon bbc bosses as to how slowly the broadcaster to dealing with the next controversial as well as how poor the bbc match of the day programme was last night, although it did get 500,000 more views than it normally does . so views than it normally does. so it seems this comes as reports suggest that bbc presenters described the director tim davis handung described the director tim davis handling of the situation as a disaster. so should resign. then on the for 50 it's time for well i'll be joined by political commentator danny and host of the politics people podcast, paul duddridge to discuss the top stories from around the globe. stay tuned for this week's feature in the in the studio by a leading thanks the equality in construction . you equality in construction. you have seen this lovely lady on your screens before battling it out on the bbc game show. can

you who it is and it's tricky got loads more colleagues on the way that's the way in the next houn way that's the way in the next hour. tell me what you think on everything when discussing email gbviews@gbnews.uk or tweet me at . gb news. right, let's get started. welcome again to my panel and broadcaster christine hamilton and also broadcaster and journalist danny kelly. looking at this over time even he can't believe it . he he can't believe it. he qualified bbc journalist . yes, qualified bbc journalist. yes, the bbc. the bbc. we will to them. but i'll start you, christine, because you're very you know, you're see, you've got your hand in the test when it comes to politics. what i used to when i was ten or something, it was. but what do you think of this? because the conservative party appear be making some ground with labour party and ground with the labour party and the developments. the recent developments. so rishi coming this rishi sunak coming up with this plan macron, a lot of plan with macron, a lot of dissing but is dissing it. but this is something he came something and the way he came across with on the learn this seems to progress it seems

seems to be progress it seems to be reflected in polls. absolutely i mean, i haven't seen that that opinion poll. that's extremely encouraging . that's extremely encouraging. excuse me if . that's extremely encouraging. excuse me if. he can that's extremely encouraging. excuse me if . he can get that's extremely encouraging. excuse me if. he can get a grip on this boat situation. i think that will greatly enhance his reputation and but it's a massive if and he hasn't got to do it. but if he can pull that off and people can really see that he's got a proper mechanisms in hand to do it etc. etc. and. if they see people being sent back, deported, etc, etc, not the asylum seekers but the illegals , then i think yes, the illegals, then i think yes, he could have a fair crack at the weight, but think tax is also another huge issue. and i think you mentioned got the highest rate of tax for 70 years and hunt is apparently still intending to impose this corporation increase, which is nuts. you're going to go to look you don't have to look to france and germany, look across to ireland where it's point five, i think it is at 12 or 12.5. and their economy reaping the benefits of that we would be absolutely mad plonk this huge .

absolutely mad plonk this huge. he says he wants to cut the tax business well stop corporation tax increase but i think it's stopping the boats getting grip on that and yes the tories could be in with a chance. i never thought i'd that a few thought i'd say that a few months ago. what do you think, tony? well, you know, it's really but i think now really peculiar, but i think now ditching johnson been ditching johnson could have been in hindsight we spoke about hindsight week. lot. we hindsight last week. a lot. we love don't we just love it, don't we? we just might. it have might. maybe it may have been a fortuitous that the tory party and boris made a rishi and boris johnson made a rishi sunak. right, he's he's sunak. you're right, he's he's building bridges with our across the english channel. he's paying a lot of money i think half a billion pounds. but the french are paying more, so he's got them to pay more as well. so it's a collective effort then to stop little dinghies floating over think that's great. over. and i think that's great. and gary lineker, the patron saint of , illegal refugees, saint of, illegal refugees, legal asylum seekers. you know , legal asylum seekers. you know, he and i know we're going to talk about it later, but but collectively think society is focussed on stopping those . i focussed on stopping those. i think that as the liberal elites

it's becoming a cliche the liberal elite but i think detached members of society who don't have to actually live in communities where the weather culture is being changed permanently doesn't affect them. no, it doesn't. and i think rishi sunak, if he if he could persuade working class areas, the red seats, that he's doing his best the cultures his best to keep the cultures alive and stop the dinghies, i think he's got off a chance with the walls, even you the red walls, even you mentioned boris. and i think one of the big differences now is that haven't got and that we haven't got boris and i think people, ursula von der leyen etc, they leyen and macron, etc, they just didn't boris, they didn't to deal with boris, they simply couldn't with him. it was it no , not boris. it was no, not boris. and i think there's instantly a much greater rapport with rishi. they feel he's a man to use the immortal words that they can do business with. and have. may i just back to the corporation just go back to the corporation tax a george osborne tax for a moment? george osborne before brexit referendum, he before the brexit referendum, he said to drive said that he wanted to drive corporation talks down to 51 5. now there's a massive leap between 19% and 25. six points

is one hell of a big leap. now, whether this is just a temporary thing in order to recover money post, then that's that's understandable for more sympathetic to it. but six points is a hell of a lot because big companies you know, they they have the workforce that draws great britain and they have a bottom line margin that at the moment they are working on 19. so they are for casting ahead based on 19. but it doesn't. so i think i mean, which is it danica that has just made the decision to go? i think it's going to astrazeneca, to ireland, to more and more rights. so companies of big pharma are gone, gone and more and more big companies if you know if it if nick this time next week we've got 25% corporation tax. i think a lot big companies will be thinking well takes no thanks well health takes no thanks i'm going smaller going elsewhere but smaller companies have a 19% companies they will have a 19% threshold. the 25, it's like income tax. you have to have a big turnover , a big bottom line big turnover, a big bottom line in to be by 25. so in order to be by 25. so there'll be plenty of smaller companies, you know, men and

women having family businesses with modest £300,000 with with a modest £300,000 turnover who may not be affected by the they're course not so free to go. i mean, the smaller companies, the family companies aren't so easily able to up sticks go to another sticks and go to another friendlier regime. but it doesn't any sense, really, to be honest, to 25% makes no honest, going to 25% makes no sense whatsoever because it sense whatsoever because all it will drive inflation will do is drive inflation because these companies may because then these companies may well the cost of this well pass these the cost of this tax is going to be a definitely the prices then going to go up single rising again with wages lagging behind which is what inflation is and we've got although maybe although i think that maybe these thinking is that these other thinking is that inflation was going to literally halve anyway . so they're halve anyway. so they're thinking to come thinking that's going to come down anyway. so it's not really going have that much an going to have that much of an effect. i think they need to effect. but i think they need to be this one. be very careful with this one. of what's his name hunt of course, what's his name hunt himself was standing for himself when he was standing for the leadership he was advocating reducing corporate tax. and then he changed your he said, well, i've changed your mind. circumstances mind. oh, well circumstances have changed. well, i would say that circumstances changed again. another again. so let's have another rethink be rethink. well, it'll be interesting what he comes interesting to see what he comes

up i'd say keir up with. i'd say sir keir starmer, anything what he starmer, anything about what he would do to never said anything about anything talk high about anything. talk about high prices. a snickers prices. tell how much a snickers bar is in a market suspension. you straight down £22 you know, go straight down £22 to pound for a snickers bar. the big ones , the one, all the ones big ones, the one, all the ones in the market for petrol. did you buy it anyway? no, i took a photograph it. i couldn't believe it. i was on twitter. i got a tweet today. i bet it's one of the not one of the. it's smaller, normal no, i just it's not. i know. i've got not. i know. 220. i've got a photo i'll show you. i bet it's smaller than what all understand. if you like i can it to a producer on the other street. no this is a brazilian breaking story but might be breaking news story but might be slightly more interesting. the one we've got coming up next, gary lineker. yeah, he's on the way. we can't resist because see, we've to talk about see, we've got to talk about that. are your thoughts that. so what are your thoughts on jeremy hunt? the whole business with the labour conservative business with the labour cons do ative business with the labour cons do youe business with the labour cons do you think you could business with the labour consdo you think you could have now do you think you could have some sort of faith in the labour party? just join party? well, if you just join me, board. i'm nana me, welcome board. i'm nana akua. is gb news tv, akua. this is gb news on tv, onune

akua. this is gb news on tv, online on digital radio. online and on digital radio. after break, it is for after the break, it is time for the great british debate this hour and, i'm asking for the director bbc, tim director general, the bbc, tim daisy. should he be now daisy. should he be on now following lineker following gary lineker suspension and the widespread strikes across the strikes presenters across the broadcaster tim davie has come under pressure to resign over what's been disappointing after the disastrous handling of the situation city watch city, send me your thoughts. situation city watch city, send me your thoughts . email me your thoughts. email gbviews@gbnews.uk . kate, tell me gbviews@gbnews.uk. kate, tell me what you think. you can also tweet me at gb news and there's a pull up right now asking that very question should the director of bbc director general of the bbc resign. cast vote now. don't go anywhere .

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us some live on youtube now before the break we were discussing, the tories closing the the labour party and the gap on the labour party and the gap on the labour party and the chancellor. set to deliver his next on the ides his budget next week on the ides of march let's what you've of march. let's see what you've been ask us as hi nana. been saying. ask us as hi nana. i do think the tories slowly clawing their way back into pubuc clawing their way back into public labour , need to public favour labour, need to step up. says the tories will step it up. says the tories will not stay in power much longer. changeis not stay in power much longer. change is needed whether it be labour or another party. bye tories. says . let's see how tories. ross says. let's see how he manages budget and it will be interesting. i think you need to scrap the 25% rise. but that's down to and we'll see where that him but keep your thoughts coming it's now for the great british this hour and i'm british debate this hour and i'm asking director asking should the director general resign now general of the bbc resign now following gary lineker suspension and, the widespread strikes other of staff. you strikes of other of staff. you don't fancy or not maybe they're not staff, maybe they're freelancers, which isn't very wise. i don't know why they're doing it. acoustic numerous football presenters have refused not not to host to refuse to host the programmes sport of gary . the pressure

host the programmes sport of gary. the pressure is mounting on bbc bosses as to how slowly broadcaster responded to dealing with his controversial tweets , with his controversial tweets, as well as how poor the bbc's match of the day programme coverage last night. although to be fair 500,000 more viewers than the week before and this as reports suggest, the bbc presenter, the director general tim davis handling of the situation as a disaster to now while speaking to the mirror gary son said his father will never back down from his tweet where he compared government's illegal migration to the thirties 1930s germany. and this is despite davis apologising for this weekend's disruption and saying that the corporation was lineker back on air. what he has to say that doesn't? so for the great british debate this hour i'm asking should the director general the bbc resign. first, let's get the latest on the meltdown of the bbc . we can meltdown of the bbc. we can speak to our gb news national reporter paul hawkins, who's outside broadcasting house in london . paul, so what's been london. paul, so what's been going on? are people talking

about what are they saying with regard to this ? what they're regard to this? what they're saying at the moment is critics of the bbc's decision withdraw gary lineker are really making two points, which is that firstly , maybe let's assume he firstly, maybe let's assume he did break the impartiality rules of the which the bbc say he did. then why aren't you applying those rules consistently to other such as lord sugar, who's fronted . the various 17 series fronted. the various 17 series of the apprentice criticise? jeremy corbyn and criticise mick lynch , the head of the rmt, etc. lynch, the head of the rmt, etc. he's not being hauled up for political tweets . then one you political tweets. then one you applying that to people like andrew neil when he was a bbc presenter and also the wildlife presenter, chris so if you're going to have these rules and if can reinforce them, why are you being with it? and being consistent with it? and if you inconsistent with you are being inconsistent with it, brings about it, then that brings about criticism you're being criticism that you're being unfair gary lineker. the unfair towards gary lineker. the second thing is, and this may this your secondary

this may be your secondary question chairman of question should the chairman of the bbc, richard sharpe, resign because critics of the bbc decision to pull gary lineker were we should , richard were saying we should, richard sharpe, . he is sharpe, resign because. he is obviously a known tory donor. he's donated £400,000 to the conservative party, allocates organs that he facilitated and £800,000 loan to the then prime minister, boris johnson , who minister, boris johnson, who then gave him or made him chairman of the bbc. then gave him or made him chairman of the bbc . and the chairman of the bbc. and the implication being that in some way he helped with that loan and then that facility, that job, of course, allegations that richard shop denies. but he is the subject of an ongoing investigation. at the very investigation. so at the very least be as least should he be suspended as chairman the pending that chairman the bbc pending that investigation. so first of all the director general of the bbc under fire for making the decision to gary lineker in decision to pull gary lineker in in first secondly, in the first place. secondly, richard also richard sharpe, his are also under as well. so big, big decisions for the bbc to make over the next sort of 48 hours or so, not only they have to get their sports coverage right terms of today match of the day two tonight is going to be like

match the date last night it's going have no no presentation going to have no no presentation no commentary. but they've no commentary. but also they've got of the fa got live coverage of the fa cup quarter weekend. so quarter finals next weekend. so big operation of decisions have to made was elsewhere as to be made as was elsewhere as sorry excuse me editorial ones wow i say get rid of a lot wow wow. i say get rid of a lot of them. get rid of the ones who are not striking. there's plenty of people who would absolutely love their jobs. paul hawkins, love theirjobs. paul hawkins, thank much. good to thank you very much. good to talk right. that talk to you. right. well, that was our reporter paul hawkins there, and there, giving us a lead. and joining is the former joining me now is the former editor of the label peter editor of the label is peter edwards former editor edwards and is a former editor of sun. kelvin mckenzie. of the sun. kelvin mckenzie. let's start with you, kelvin your bbc, gary your thoughts on the bbc, gary lineker of course, tim lineker and of course, tim davie, when right in the davie, when he was right in the first place to suspend him or i was just just fire i mean was hoping just just fire i mean all because he tripoli's and he could talk he likes for he likes what he do is talk on my money i don't want to money through a tax to who's saying something i don't agree with i just don't

want to pay by my money like that in terms of television he wants to do it on itv or or anywhere by always be my guest . anywhere by always be my guest. but it's not a free speech issue . this is a rule within the bbc . like any corporation bt sport or unilever, if you saying stuff which you think actually casts a shadow over your business boom, you've got my fear. now is because they are basically collection of lobbyists and that god bless him, that the director general or the chief because he would be in another business now is seeing a against it by the staff may i wouldn't care less let them all go i agree with you this working for bristol rovers or wigan or or some small national league team who will be delighted to give their views would have as much impact as as as the as the shearers and the right who are being paid for under pop to say good go nice go

square ball nice pass. so actually he should stay strong if he doesn't strong on it and comes up some kind of a pitch . i comes up some kind of a pitch. i don't think he's a suitable manager and he should go as well. so stay strong. and i also see a significant issue coming the track. but if lineker comes back by, by the way, unencumbered rules of the company , then actually the company, then actually the bottom line on this is i could see a lot of people starting to say ordinary people who don't agree with his views. so tell you what i'm going to do. i'm not going to pay the fee. so that's my next way. we are going to go on strike. forget about you going on strike, peter. what assaults ? well, i think gary assaults? well, i think gary lineker did break the rules. tim davie, head the bbc, has davie, the head of the bbc, has has consider his position has got to consider his position and. if you think about all the groups he works for, his own staff, lost confidence staff, he's lost the confidence of judging by the whatsapp of them. judging by the whatsapp messages newspapers messages leaked to newspapers about backroom boys and backroom girls , he's the confidence girls, he's lost the confidence of presenters who had a de

of the presenters who had a de facto walkout . didn't appear facto walkout. didn't appear this weekend, his loss of this weekend, and his loss of confidence viewers, football confidence of viewers, football fans of the fans me who love match of the day and what we saw last night was not match the day it was just pale imitation of some just a pale imitation of some footage together with no footage put together with no commentary or analysis. so i think has got to think tim davie has got to consider position. used consider his position. you used to meltdown is absolutely to a meltdown is absolutely right sometimes what crisis is overused but gary lineker broke the rules and then the bbc completely mishandled this and got themselves worse got themselves a much worse position. is a meltdown. position. so it is a meltdown. what should they have done then, in your view? well, i think they should have enforced the rules if they're going to have them consistently, because gary lineker been about lineker has been tweeting about politics, six or seven politics, you know, six or seven years if you years and personally, if you take out the 1930s comparison, which think inappropriate, which i think is inappropriate, i with on lots of the i agree with him on lots of the substance. at the i think substance. but at the i think that was the problem was the fact he took comparisons. i fact that he took comparisons. i mean, also that he's mean, and also the that he's what's bbc so he's what's the bbc so he's not supposed itis what's the bbc so he's not supposed it is two supposed speak when it is two different the jewish different issues the jewish community in britain to my mind quite correctly protested about the parallel that the 1950s parallel but that wasn't suspension

wasn't reason his suspension we're stepping but it was a we're told stepping but it was a suspension it because he expressed a view on essentially party politics but he's been doing that for years. and as calvin alluded to there are other broadcasters who write tweets and, give opinions from the or the right. you're the left or the right. you're different perspective. the different perspective. so the bbc complete mess over bbc is in a complete mess over its impartiality and that's before even the point before you even get to the point the people running the bbc several of whom the executives have conservative party backgrounds. got backgrounds. well i got in trouble something trouble for saying something on another even on the another channel, not even on the bbc freelancer. and i lost bbc as a freelancer. and i lost two on it. so i'm not two shows on it. so i'm not happy about that either i actually left because. i couldn't speak out about anything very glad anything and very glad that i found news. don't you found tv news. but don't you that hypocritical of that it's quite hypocritical of the it's got the likes the bbc that it's got the likes of lord sugar karren brady, i mean, calvin klein. do think mean, calvin klein. do you think that a similar situation these guys views ? yeah, guys express their views? yeah, yeah, in favour of a boot yeah, i'm in favour of a boot low straight off i wouldn't i wouldn't think twice about it so i'm not worried about it's got enough money and enough you know he's old enough he's old as me.

he can get on with his life. i couldn't care less. i'm not favour of shop remaining as chairman of the bbc after i appued chairman of the bbc after i applied for that job and so i'm forward to shopping booted out so can reapply but on the serious matter and he should never have been given the job in the first place. it was quite outrageous and. boris is a shocker in this respect . shocker in this respect. shocker. however, it get away from the single issue which is that lineker may well i've been doing it for years this he crossed a line god knows why he hadnt crossed a line god knows why he hadn't crossed the line before i was being favour of getting rid of him years ago. right. and the idea that match the day can't exist without all these people. i agree it wasn't fantastic, but i agree it wasn't fantastic, but i watched it. i enjoyed it because it was was basically giving v side right to the right and saying we can get on and so that's why i'm in favour of the strike being i want it to be defeat in the same way as i want

the rmt to be defeated. i don't the rmt to be defeated. i don't the kind of bullying, blackmail of a lot of these guys let them go and work somewhere else. there's loads of people who would love that job £400,000 to go to salford once a week to good good in nice pass poor pass is ridiculous . peter, you're is ridiculous. peter, you're shaking your head. it's not bullying. and i wouldn't call it a strike either. it's certainly a strike either. it's certainly a walkout and don't know. i'd be a walkout and don't know. i'd be a little bit surprised if gary lineker was the national union of journalists, as i used to be when i was a newspaper reporter. but but this to me is not really about left right. this is about left and right. this is about left and right. this is about bbc getting itself about the bbc getting itself over initially over over in a mess initially over its impartiality. what a its impartiality. what was in a mess several years . i think mess over several years. i think one thing i do with kelvin one thing i do agree with kelvin one thing i do agree with kelvin on because gary on inconsistency, because gary lineker tweeted a lot about other immigration, asylum policies and about brexit, but it has nothing to do with the left mean. i think the problem for bbc is that they've they've caved in to the government and that didn't involve any input from starmer they really cut

eggs and when the government became upset about gary lineker his so i think that's what's led to the line crossed after six or seven years of gary lineker tweeting do you really think can i just say i don't think that's entirely true. the truth about the matter was lineker was told last time. look, mate , you are last time. look, mate, you are a famous person . we have a rule famous person. we have a rule covers that which says that if you are famous, you've got to be very careful. well and by the way, so he got a slap on the wrist, but black this time he goes the full hog and manages to aggravate an entire community and also get it completely and utterly wrong by ism in there and the issue, the issue i would take take issue with you on this is that , in fact, the if you is that, in fact, the if you divided up into the polity , the divided up into the polity, the migration issue , those in favour migration issue, those in favour of it are basically of the left . and those who are against it are basically of the right. so you you know, there are lots of

there are of things in this part. i am not favour of paying my tax here to hear politics from the left or the right from the bbc. if sky want to do it or b—2 sport want to do it or somebody or gb news to do it, that's fine by me. i'm not paying that's fine by me. i'm not paying for it, right? i am paying paying for it, right? i am paying the bbc. i just don't want to. and i'm sure lots of people are like me, but it's very good to talk to you. thank you so much. kelvin mackenzie, former editor of the sun, also peter former editor peter edwards, former editor of the libellous. so the libellous. thank you so much. with me on the much. we you're with me on the note. is news on tv note. this is tv news on tv onune note. this is tv news on tv online and on digital radio. after break, for our after the break, time for our great british debate this i'm asking, should the director general, ? you general, the bbc, resign if? you follow the thoughts of my panel, author broadcaster christine author and broadcaster christine hamilton danny hamilton to broadcast when danny kelly up at kelly then coming up at five it's week's outside. this it's this week's outside. this bolton is for giving bolton local is for giving speeches across uk inspiring speeches all across uk inspiring and motivating women to pave a way forward for themselves in construction . here's another construction. here's another clue she married her gameshow reality tv we call it reality tv

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and good afternoon this is gb news. we are the people's. i'm nana akua. but you can download the gb news app for free and check out all the on the channel. but now time for our great british debate hour. and i'm asking, should the director general of the bbc that is tim davis, should he resign? this is following gary lineker suspension and the widespread strikes of the members of staff , presenters and freelancers. the refuse to host pundits have refused to go on the programme. ian wright others like the alan sparrow, did not present much today night. they didn't go on at all in support of gary lineker . now at all in support of gary lineker. now pressure is mounting upon bbc bosses as to how slowly it to dealing with lineker controversial tweet as well as how poor the match of the day's programme coverage was although i will add 500,000 more viewers so clearly people are quite happy to watch without these people. now this comes as reports suggest the bbc presenter described the director

general davis handling of the situation disaster say for situation as a disaster say for the british debate this hour i'm asking should the director general bbc . well, let's general of the bbc. well, let's see what my panel make of that. i'm joined by author and broadcaster hamilton, broadcaster christine hamilton, also and journalist also broadcaster and journalist cathy danny kelly. well, you all like me. you're a bbc person. you worked there before, ex—bbc c 15. yes. you worked there before, ex—bbc c15. yes. yeah you worked there before, ex—bbc c 15. yes. yeah well, you worked there before, ex—bbc c15. yes. yeah well, this is a school talk show host of bbc sandwich. did you this must be favourite moment. talk to me about what's i mean. i was once suspended for a week by the bbc in the newsroom. didn't walk in support of me. oh what did you do? well, i was the first to announce the death of her majesty, back in majesty, and that was back in 2010. was alive. she was 2010. so it was alive. she was face to face. it was a sketch that had gone badly wrong, and it worldwide all around the it made worldwide all around the commonwealth, as you could imagine, announcement imagine, the announcement that was it was was funny i suppose it was hilarious the time. was it? hilarious at the time. was it? it's so now that she's it's so funny now that she's dead. no but at the time she was suspended. why if it was funny and if you thought it funny and

people agreed and it was funny was the spend it because the bbc didn't find it funny announcing she had died. she's not allowed to say i we just found it funny though the have a very strict procedure and you of course if you dare say that then know literally the controls of your radio studio will be taken over by part of the bbc. and then the will take it from there. so if you did , what did your bosses do you did, what did your bosses do you did, what did your bosses do you i mean, what happened? what god. well, i thought i, i was going to i was going to lose my job. and the next day i had a secret meeting because believe it or not, all the paparazzi to the birmingham mailbox to get a photo. me and the daily mirror knocked on the next someone knocked on the next day someone told i lived. so told them where i lived. so i was going to my job. i didn't lose job. thankfully to lose my job. thankfully but to be by the bbc, it's be suspended by the bbc, it's almost badge of honour. almost like a badge of honour. slowly can go back back slowly you can go back and back because the audience figures went the roof. now back went through the roof. now back to lineker second. to gary lineker for a second. the should tim davie the question is should tim davie resign and should fall on his resign and should he fall on his sword. well don't see what sword. well i don't see what that to gain. i think

that is going to gain. i think we should wait to see the outcome of the lineker. i just wish gary lineker would row back on 1930s. rubbish. say he on the 1930s. rubbish. say he got exactly and then got that wrong. exactly and then there's ground. if there's middle ground. if it hadnt there's middle ground. if it hadn't come but that hadn't come to it. but that doesn't leave the other elephant hadn't come to it. but that dothet leave the other elephant hadn't come to it. but that dothe room e the other elephant hadn't come to it. but that dothe room aboutother elephant hadn't come to it. but that dothe room about him. elephant hadn't come to it. but that dothe room about him. wants|nt hadn't come to it. but that dothe room about him. wants to in the room about him. wants to get once again get involved once again getting involved like involved in politics he's like the greek mythological figure, icarus , who was so full of icarus, who was so full of self—confidence . he actually self—confidence. he actually builds himself some wings made of feather and wax and his father says, don't fly too close the sun. but he's so arrogant. he flies so close to the sun . it he flies so close to the sun. it melts wings, it crushes melts the wings, it crushes earth. i wish i wish you would do that across . so you're not do that across. so you're not dying. obviously because the analogy of what you said. yeah, yeah, yeah. i just wish that the bbc had acted sooner when lineker crossed the line by saying political. i mean, they are , as your debate just now are, as your debate just now pointed that they are paid for by us and we do not pay for posh views from people who are either left or right, it doesn't matter the fact that danny sorry,

you're danny, the fact that gary is on the left is what he happens to be. but i agree. if only gary lineker has the football to say i went too far . football to say i went too far. should not have made that analogy. wasn't thinking you know. but but if he would just do that would give the bbc and olive branch it would be some because they have now got an car crash. they don't know . just get crash. they don't know. just get rid of him. look, look, i mean. the man has made many, many errors and get rid of all the other people, not get for their contracts. they've got a contract. they don't get anything. i think they get someone the an someone else from the bbc an opportunity to a clear out. opportunity to have a clear out. the bbc has already been clearing out a lot of staff who apparently think apparently are older. i think that's what to me. but that's what it looks to me. but they're clearing out some of the deadwood some some deadwood that's there, some some of are brilliant, but of the staff are brilliant, but that's not dead yet. that's just older. that's just older. well, that's just a phrase for people that are old so that's what they've so i so that's what they've done. i say that if done. and i would say that if you such a privileged you have such a privileged position, frankly, you know, aware and there aware of how you are and there are plenty other very talented

broadcasters be happy broadcasters who would be happy to take up the slack and take those roles. but what i would say looking at is that gary say looking at it is that gary lineker have pulled lineker should have been pulled up because it's up a lot earlier because it's not fair for people like me who lost things through, the bbc, because said something because i said something on another nothing do another that had nothing to do with at all, but they with the bbc at all, but they designed breached their designed it, breached their guidelines, it, guidelines, they didn't like it, so punished. but gary so i got punished. but gary lineker out big lineker can go out on big soapbox, go capital, be paid soapbox, go to capital, be paid thousand times more than what is being but yet he can being paid. but yet he can continue. think that's continue. and i think that's that's irritates is not that's what irritates me is not that's what irritates me is not that you know, when he that he's you know, when he insulted not i think insulted it's not that i think he say what he likes. he can say what he likes. there's the fact that he worked for the bbc and, did it and they did nothing, you know, mentioning would have been mentioning that would have been a lineker could a moment when gary lineker could have for have stood up and a stand for human no gay rights. human rights. no you gay rights. well, but he still went there and took of to. money and and took acres of to. money and do mean going to by do you mean by not going to by not could have said yes. this not he could have said yes. this is wonderful opportunity. i is a wonderful opportunity. i love but i'm going to love football, but i'm going to make and i'm going make a stand and i'm not going to and he failed to do that. to go. and he failed to do that. go back to tim davie. i want him

not only i don't want him to resign, want i want resign, i want him, but i want him discipline who refused to him to discipline who refused to go to work they have let go to work because they have let the licence fee down to 59 the licence fee pay down to 59 and half pounds a year and and a half pounds a year and people can't experience final score i don't have sky score because i don't have sky sports i have all the sky stuff and want it to see however so and i want it to see however so we are not are normally a total bbc of them the whole film bbc fond of them the whole film about see that's about them you see that's contemptuous about it's contemptuous it's not about it's the by who literally the licence by who literally pays their salary . so for them pays their salary. so for them to think well i'm going to go for the gallon because i'm not happy well that's fine go but the who come back the only people who come back that come back they'll that don't come back they'll come back. well ronald come back. well when ronald reagan president of the reagan was president of the united all the air united states and all the air traffic controllers on traffic controllers went out on strike, said, fine, strike, he just said, fine, goodbye, get some more. so goodbye, i'll get some more. so why doesn't round and why doesn't the bbc round and say, you've broken your say, fine, you've broken your contract, were supposed turn contract, were supposed to turn up contract, were supposed to turn up salford you up and wherever salford you didn't, supposing all the gb news presenters said, news presenters suddenly said, oh, not turning oh, by the way i'm not turning up, would expect to their up, would they expect to their jobs and the whole jobs held open and the whole thing for not to thing held up for them not to cross picket hole? people cross the picket hole? people call scab all you it's the

call me scab all you it's the other said they were going on strike. can do it. strike. i say you can do it. i've got, i've kids to face. i've got, i've got kids to face. yeah ever ever practical now and they're like, well this is nothing you and your view says, well, come on, great british voices their opportunity to be on the show. tell us what they think about the topics that we're discussing this i'm we're discussing this now. i'm heading to kidderminster, heading over to kidderminster, so have a with so we go and have a chat with john.i so we go and have a chat with john. i wait. do what john john. i can't wait. do what john reid say about this. john reid has to say about this. john nice see john. i'd love nice to see you, john. i'd love to what your thoughts to hear what your thoughts are on it. so what do you what do you think about, first of all, gary lineker, what should happen you think about, first of all, ga him neker, what should happen you think about, first of all, gahim and r, what should happen you think about, first of all, gahim and whatit should happen you think about, first of all, gahim and whatit syoud happen you think about, first of all, gahim and whatit syou thinkpen to him and what do you think about davie? carry gary? about tim davie? carry on gary? i've heard much pompous i've never heard so much pompous rubbish in all my life i'm not a football fan at all now however gary say whatever gary likes gary can say whatever gary likes if like he's if people don't like it, he's making individualistic. making is individualistic. if people don't like it and don't like the bbc's way they've handled and all other people handled him and all other people well, fine, stop watching bbc. stop paying the licence fee only take the online streaming stuff and. enjoy youtube from elsewhere . yeah, but they could

elsewhere. yeah, but they could be arrested. that's intrusion. that's not fair. that's not now because do. but you know the rules . if you don't pay, you can rules. if you don't pay, you can be arrested. so got to be careful like it's very, you know, prominently say that but then if you don't do it, the police will catch up with you. you end up in prison, as i understand it. then if you don't take the bbc , but you only take take the bbc, but you only take your tv, a live streaming line, your tv, a live streaming line, you don't need a licence to do that. you don't need a licence to do that . yeah, you know, but what that. yeah, you know, but what about neville says a lot. a lot. a lot of people can't cope with a live streaming line. they want a live streaming line. they want a they want the good old fashioned television in the corner the room. and to corner of the room. and to do that, you have your 159 per that, you have pay your 159 per you have no. yeah. john but what about then. so do you think then that davie should resign that tim davie should resign because woeful handling because of the woeful handling of ? well, i think tim davie of this? well, i think tim davie has handled it in a fairly amateurish. why hasn't he doesn't come out submitted a rose is does he and as for the chairman is an inquiry going on there so you know let it there anyway so you know let it run its course but gary lineker

can whatever comments like can make whatever comments like and best thing if say things and the best thing if say things that you don't agree with or don't like, as i do , then they don't like, as i do, then they just ignore it. and i think that's the best way. well, it depends if you dependent if you have to remain impartial and you signed a contract that says that you make a judgement when you won't make a judgement when the paying for you, you won't make a judgement when the that paying for you, you won't make a judgement when the that that paying for you, you won't make a judgement when the that that andying for you, you won't make a judgement when the that that and that'sr you, you won't make a judgement when the that that and that's what but that that and that's what he's kind signed so he shouldn't be commenting on political things got to go. things and john, i've got to go. i to you for ages. i could talk to you for ages. always good to hear your thoughts as john read them in kidderminster. great kidderminster. he's a great british them british voice. what was them asking? whether you think that tim should resign? lots of you've in you've been getting in touch with your views. phil it says i believe in a cause should be generally express his generally free to express his views. our views. but comparing our government germany, government to 1930s germany, it's far should it's going too far and he should be sacked, he says. tim davie introduced a policy bbc presenters, especially high profile their profile, not making their political views public. this is to preserve the appearance of the being impartial, which the bbc being impartial, which it isn't anyway. tim davie needs to enforce this and if necessary, sack if you won't

have the line, i'm with you 100. well me remind you the statement to the bbc released earlier. the bbc have been in extensive discussions . gary and his team discussions. gary and his team in recent days . we said that we in recent days. we said that we consider his reasons social media activity to be a breach of . bbc has . our guidelines. the bbc has decided he will step back from presenting of the day so presenting match of the day so we've got agreed and clear we've got an agreed and clear position use of social position on his use of social media when it comes to leading a football and sports coverage. gary to none. we have gary is second to none. we have never said that gary should be an impediment for his own or that he can't have a view on issues matter to him. but issues that matter to him. but we that should keep we have said that he should keep them away from taking sides them well away from taking sides on party political issues or our political controversies they political controversies. they have me. not okay . have it with me. i'm not okay. this news where? on tv, this is a gb news where? on tv, onune this is a gb news where? on tv, online and on digital radio. after the break, time for world view. i run the sentences geanng view. i run the sentences gearing up for the presidency in 2024. but will it be desantis minus trump in the republican candidate race? host of the politics people podcast brought up that you'll be joining me to discuss that and lots more after

well back this is gb news on tv onune well back this is gb news on tv online and on digital radio. i'm nana a and it's time for world view. russia's war on. the ukraine rages on. the fighting continues in the city of bakhmut . that is according to the uk of defence. ukraine is managing to prevent moscow also advancing. joining me now to talk about this is russian political commentator and russia expert danny. danny, that's all to me. there's been a lot bombings going on in ukraine that has the fighting reignited . yes, of fighting reignited. yes, of course. as were all anticipating that spring offensive and russia would launch an attack on thursday. it came with those 81

missiles and that rained down on ukraine to a nine civilian deaths. the most of those coming in in the west. there were in lviv in the west. there were six hypersonic missiles were launched by russia is one of the biggest missile since the beginning of the war. now the fighting going on at the moment in donbas in bakhmut or after , in donbas in bakhmut or after, as it's called in russian , one as it's called in russian, one of the biggest and bloodiest, longest battles that's going on in the war at the moment. now, the ukrainian sides say they are committed to fighting for that city. russia wagner, of course, that's the mercenary group, the private military group of russia . russia's private army say they've already taken it. the fighting is actually going on at a rate of 100 or 200 ukrainian casualties per. now, even though the ukrainian sides say they're committed to winning city and defending that city, it does look like it's going to end with ukrainian forces to the west in a more defensive positions and russia taking it . of russia actually taking it. of course, russia's objective , course, russia's objective, which been relegated from a

which has been relegated from a few of those, a few of the pretexts on which the war was launched to protect and to liberate the people of donbas and, because bakhmut is in donbas that is something they will defend fervently. and what it shows is that vladimir will throw as many bodies , as much throw as many bodies, as much ammunition as needed into that meat grinder in bakhmut to win that battle. that is what ukraine already as far as the bombing on. so danny danny , so bombing on. so danny danny, so what about the russian people now this we got about a minute left . what are the what is the left. what are the what is the in russia at the moment on? the . war well, it's pretty much the same as it always has been. there is that generational divide people around about 35 and younger will be more opposed to the war. those five upwards will be more for the war on for putin. that's where putin gains most of his support. as the war goes on. of course, more people are fleeing russia . more people are fleeing russia. more people are fleeing russia. more people are seeing the bad sides . of are seeing the bad sides. of course, the crunch that comes ,

course, the crunch that comes, the sanctions that have been launched against russia . there launched against russia. there is a certain amount support against western values and western ideals is as much know nato expanding eastwards as it is west and its ideals encroaching russia and being brought into the east . and as brought into the east. and as they think destroying russian ideals and russian identity and culture and of course language as is in the dumas region and what we're seeing now. what is anthony armstrong thank you very much for joining anthony armstrong thank you very much forjoining me that much for joining me that suddenly onslaught from is a political . well let's travel political. well let's travel over to america now and go to speak to the host of the politics people podcast paul duddndge politics people podcast paul duddridge shadow paul how are you. talk to me about what's going on. tell me about ron desantis . ron spent friday in desantis. ron spent friday in iowa. these are the beginnings , iowa. these are the beginnings, the iowa caucuses. it come up next february you to iowa if you're republican or indeed if you're republican or indeed if you're a democrat candidate . to you're a democrat candidate. to get a feel of how the voters are

going to go. whether you have support whether you have popular and desantis was holding like 700 people he went to des moines amongst . where else did he go? amongst. where else did he go? i'll tell in a second. davenport. that was the other place davenport des moines meetings , 700 people. he did meetings, 700 people. he did very, very he polled very well. trump is there on monday to steal thunder. hmm. now, apparently, our prime minister rishi sunak is flying to the us. us. yes, he's due to write. i'll tell you the oscars. is the oscar buzz. nothing compared to the excitement of sunak arriving. i'll tell you that, we're all very, very excited. he's going to he's coming to sign . he's coming to coming to sign. he's coming to san diego . fox went forward san diego. fox went forward today. i'm sorry. don't san diego. fox went forward today. i'm sorry . don't know today. i'm sorry. don't know where i am. it's he's coming to san diego. he's meeting with the australian prime minister and president biden. i former vice president biden. i former vice president biden. i former vice president biden obviously give him his proper name and they're talking about the orcas. this is

the submarine deal that boris did, which was ostensibly create tried to stave off expansionist chinese actions in the pacific to and france. so that was the that was the main thrust of this submarine deal that we have australia , us and uk orca say australia, us and uk orca say a uk, us submarine deal. they're all coming to san diego to discuss it. no truth . in the discuss it. no truth. in the rumour that rishi is checking out his property portfolio in california the same time, that's quite scurrilous rumour of course. of course. and what about trump happening with trump? about a minute trump? i've got about a minute left. trump up is being pursued the by the manhattan authorities. they want to slap him with a felony that they're inviting to address the grand jury inviting to address the grand jury to basically find him. they want find him guilty, basically, and they want him participate in it. so yes. it's very likely that he's going to receive criminal charges a felony for i think it's misrepresenting a business account because they're claiming he was trying to mask a

crime by falsifying business. what's that play out? he he's got no intention of dropping the 24 election. so it just gets exciting. but yes, he's going to be the first former president indicted any week now by the manhattan legal authorities . manhattan legal authorities. wow. because it is what they don't want him to do it, too. they don't want him to win. listen, paul, it's always a pleasure don't it now, but pleasure don't like it now, but ihave pleasure don't like it now, but i have a feeling that they carry on like that. you're probably when that is pulled up. dirty taste politics people taste of the politics people podcast for joining podcast you so much for joining me is a gb views. stay me for this is a gb views. stay tuned more to come in the next hour. houn good afternoon . it's almost good afternoon. it's almost approaching 5:00. i'm not aware . live on tv online on digital . . live on tv online on digital. ready for the next hour, me and my panel will be taking on some of the big topics hitting the headunes of the big topics hitting the headlines right now . up next, headlines right now. up next, it's specials guest for it's my specials guest for outside . i'll be joined by

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a former executive, roger bolton, says this controversy is diverting attention away the real issue. it's this argument about what is impartiality and who must be impartial, about what is impartiality and who must be impartial , that is a who must be impartial, that is a wider question, of course , other wider question, of course, other thing that's happening here is the political parties, particularly the government, governing parties, see this as a wonderful the culture wars to create trouble and, divert attention from the fundamental issue here, which illegal immigration, which extraordinarily difficult to deal. extraordinarily difficult to deal . well, as you've just been deal. well, as you've just been heanng deal. well, as you've just been hearing the minister is on his way to the united states to discuss the august defence between the uk, the us australia. it's hoped that after a summit with the us president, joe biden and, the australian prime minister, tony albanese will announce the purchase of british nuclear powered submarines . british nuclear powered submarines. it british nuclear powered submarines . it follows talks submarines. it follows talks this morning by between mr. sunak and the nato's secretary general, gen stoltenberg, during which the uk reaffirmed its commitment to help counter

threat of russia . meanwhile, the threat of russia. meanwhile, the prime minister says he recognises the anxiety over the collapse of silicon valley bank. but the government is working to find a solution to secure customers and cash flow. mr. sunak says he doesn't believe there's a systemic risk to british tech companies. but the tragedies working to find a solution. last friday as vbs , solution. last friday as vbs, american parent company became the biggest failure of a us banks as the 2008 financial crash. it is now under us government control . the government control. the chancellor says he'll make absolute no apologies for being responsible . the public finances responsible. the public finances in wednesday's budget. jeremy hunt could the tory mpc not introducing major tax cut in the financial plan? however and mr. hunt says he wants the uk to the most competitive business taxes the world. but he says there is a need for companies to have stability that comes from being responsible responsible . the responsible responsible. the

health secretary has criticised junior doctors for failing to call off strike action on monday. writing in the telegraph, steve barclay described 72 hour walkout as disappointing. the british association's described mr. barclay's recent offer to negotiate as a feeble to stall us. it is expected to affect many , including a&e , along with many, including a&e, along with cancer and maternity . kevin cancer and maternity. kevin mars, a former labour adviser, he told us there , is still time he told us there, is still time to avoid the strike. there's a very, very small window to try and avert what's going to be a catastrophic stoppage for the nhs. you know, half a million operations, half a million appointments cancelled . i mean, appointments cancelled. i mean, that's because that's the, you know, the implications. patient safety are pretty profound and that won't be lost. to be fair in government or by oh, by the junior doctors and i suspect is steve bartlett comes forward with sincere with some sort of sincere a meaningful that they make curtail the strike early . that's curtail the strike early. that's one of the biggest nights in hollywood later, celebrities get

ready for the 95th oscar awards . there is plenty of british irish talent hoping for a win as the banshees of any sheeran has become the most oscar nominee . become the most oscar nominee. sad irish film of all time. become the most oscar nominee. sad irish film of all time . it's sad irish film of all time. it's got nine nominations. bill nighy , the british actor is up for the best award for his role in the best award for his role in the movie living an andrea rise is up for best nomination. for her role in the movie two. leslie however, our showbiz reporter stephanie takyi says rise for his nomination was unusual last minute. we had wild card. andrea riseborough she's british, so she is flying the flag for brits but she starred in this film called too leslie in this film called too leslie in which she an alcoholic and no one had heard about this movie. stephen it was literally a week before nominations and this is what you call star power. people like gwyneth paltrow, charlize theron and charlize theron and jennifer aniston, they got behind it and campaigned and said this should be up for oscar nominations. so it was very much a nomination by social media

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learned and what comes next on the outside. and then just moment, i'll be joined by an owner from power for an hour sat down entrepreneurial legend because when it comes to leading companies , this woman knows her companies, this woman knows her stuff . now she doesn't let her stuff. now she doesn't let her open struggles with anxiety hold her back . here's a open struggles with anxiety hold her back. here's a big open struggles with anxiety hold her back . here's a big clue. she her back. here's a big clue. she to make it to the finals during her time on the apprentice . have her time on the apprentice. have you guess that why she's here for the great british debate. this i'm asking is net zero economic suicide in next week's budget. chancellor jeremy hunt budget. chancellorjeremy hunt plans to increase fuel duty 15 per litre . that means that per litre. that means that drivers will face increased costs despite ongoing of living crisis are going . and in crisis are going. and in addition, the number people who registered fuel consuming was higher. the number people registering electric cars which is highly problematic bearing mind the government have banned the sale of petrol and diesel cars. by 2030 so is net zero economic suicide . you want me economic suicide. you want me gbviews@gbnews.uk ? you can tweet

gbviews@gbnews.uk? you can tweet me after . gbviews@gbnews.uk? you can tweet me after. gb news. and now it's time for outside. and today i a very special guest. she is the queen of construction being the owner of five construction related companies and using them to provide equal opportunity for women looking to work in the industry. she's also very about her mental health struggles getting , talks on how to deal getting, talks on how to deal with stress and anxiety. most notably, she appeared on bbc's the apprentice in 2017 and even managed to make it to the finals. did you guess ? no. one. finals. did you guess? no. one. i'm pleased to welcome kayla wayne mikayla. thank you very much for joining wayne mikayla. thank you very much forjoining me. hello. thanks for having on. it's really good to see. so mikayla, talk to me a bit about yourself some people i watched the apprentice, i saw the one that you were in, but some people might done talk to me might have done so. talk to me about background . and i about your background. and i mean, i've been in for the best part of , 20 mean, i've been in for the best part of, 20 years. i had my own business. and to be fair, i was doing well before i went onto

apprentice, which was mogul. i was doing go to the ball. i felt like i had just plateaued, which got to x million 1004 and i felt like the from this point, you know, you don't what you don't know, you don't what you don't know who better to learn often lord sugar so and as you mentioned , i've always suffered mentioned, i've always suffered with a social anxiety. so i thought, well, this might help me get some money, meet lord sugan me get some money, meet lord sugar, get over anxiety . so sugar, get over anxiety. so i went for it went for apprentice and did well, but i didn't win. and i still am really angry . it and i still am really angry. it i definitely have what is it. a one. yeah. so getting before you got to the stage that you were in the apprentice, why you choosei in the apprentice, why you choose i mean, were you in construction before that? and if so how did you get into that? why why did you choose? i think like most people in construction, you just end up in it by accident, you know, somebody, you know, gives you a job. i was actually doing

job. and i was actually doing a degree religion and special needs. so support from construction well i am taking a year out i just went out said you know get a job all i'm going to kick you out basically because i was drawing cannon fire and doing all this street and things . so i just i ended up and things. so i just i ended up wanting a job selling apartments. and in the construction and just construction magazine and just fell with a in love with fell in love with a in love with the industry, the people i was working with, sales i, you know, i've got a big so i did quite well at that. i and then it unfolded from there . i hit a unfolded from there. i hit a glass ceiling like i think most experience construction are experience in construction are you know, women in general experience that so i decided i had no choice other than to start my own company and then was no ceiling. there was no ceiling. yeah and anyway it's made of glass. you can break it with a stiletto. yes area and you got onto the apprentice . you got onto the apprentice. what was it like. did it bring you the things that you thought it would bring? what was perhaps the most interesting thing that you discovered that? yeah, it

was to be fair, it was a lot more intense than i thought. you know, when you watch it as viewer, you're like, oh, i don't that involved made this terrible decision. well, actually, when you're in there, you're constantly working, you're not eating right. you're not sleeping. no connection with your family . so it's i guess it your family. so it's i guess it creates a really tense environment of one that i definitely wasn't used to just not having my circle of and family around it's well with very just difficult and challenging but know what i just had a really good time i just thought this is one opportune a forever longer i remember saying to them over here imagine if i'm telling you for a and my really you know that was my goal being in it for four weeks and you know i got all the way to the final so that was but it was a lot more and difficult than i anticipate it. when i first went in, i didn't speak that much. i was very nervous and anxious and constantly sweating all constantly sweating, all honesty. by the end of honesty. and then by the end of the anxiety had really lifted that. i never would have done this before the apprentice. i've

never put it on public speaking. i didn't even go to networking events i pushed events. so i really pushed myself out my comfort zone myself out of my comfort zone and guess it kind of killed to and i guess it kind of killed to and i guess it kind of killed to an extent. i'm still nervous on nana you don't. you don't nana no, you don't. you don't come across that way. and the challenge, what was your most notable or probably challenge, what was your most notaimoment or probably challenge, what was your most notaimoment ? or probably challenge, what was your most notaimoment ? oh,»r probably challenge, what was your most notaimoment ? oh, toyrobably challenge, what was your most notaimoment ? oh, to answer that, best moment? oh, to answer that, it was own challenge in i think he me into being a project manager one day overall the is that you're working construction got four brothers you be the project manager and i've never worked with any of them before at this point just kind of went with what they were saying about, you know, we're so good, was so great, give them kind of good within the team. and good jobs within the team. and then lost a in big, then we they lost a in a big, big actually brought my big way i actually brought my partner back. well, he's known my partner we have a child together and brought him back together and i brought him back together and i brought him back to fired and so he's never going to fired and so he's never going to the rest of life. to for the rest of his life. husband you on the husband you met on the apprentice? yeah. and you apprentice? yeah, yeah. and you find got as well. tried find he got fired as well. tried to get fired. i really, really was like. get rid of the competition . but he

competition. but yeah, he managed to stayed in a bit longer ball . i did better than longer ball. i did better than him which is the most important thing. so when you decide that you were going to go out with each who was it during it? was it during the actual. so there was no no it was after i was i think in moments, you know you literally work 16 hours a day. there's no time to build those friendships. but after the apprentice like maybe apprentice it's like maybe a three four month gap. so it's three or four month gap. so it's you like to drink in the you are like to drink in the apprentice when there apprentice afterwards when there was i think we was giving us wine. i think we got a bit excited even drink it all. i thought they get like a glass of wine when you get one winning that's tease. you winning but that's a tease. you know, give you a one little know, they give you a one little glass psychosis, glass of four psychosis, celebrate coming back. celebrate people coming back. but that's genuinely it. that's how allowed once so how you allowed once a week. so yeah there was canoodling yeah so no there was canoodling in house they were in the house it was, they were all the same house. i all in the same house. i wouldn't say much of a difference. yes in the same difference. yes all in the same house, different floors house, on different floors girls, on one floor and girls, on one floor bars and overflow. what you sick of the others the time and to get others by the time and to get sick them all that well. some sick of them all that well. some yeah, of the reason

yeah, it's some of the reason it's tough is because i went to boarding school and you couldn't escape you got escape some of them. so you got to friends. no, escape. to be friends. no, no escape. then you're the house, then when you're in the house, you there's no tv, no you know there's no tv, no phones, no music. literally nothing. all can do is just nothing. so all can do is just sit around and get know each other. guess you build other. so i guess you build friendships when you're in there, but also and amidst also what it was, i came across it because i sort of did one of your events, women in construction. and i know that because of your businesses and everything you've got behind getting construction, getting women into construction, talk that. yeah. talk to me about that. yeah. well, i mean, as it stands, we're around 50% of women in construction and less than 2% of women on the tools. and after i'd been on the apprentice for me, i'd never really obviously i knew as a woman in construction, but wasn't a big thing for but it wasn't a big thing for me. i was just cracking on doing what but the what i do. but after the apprentice, really shone a on apprentice, it really shone a on it. i literally 2000 and it. and i literally had 2000 and thousands messages from thousands of messages from from women but predominantly women and men, but predominantly women and men, but predominantly women like, hit women saying like, i've hit a glass ceiling. what do? glass ceiling. what should do? i can't promoted. i'm about can't get promoted. i'm about this too extreme . forms of being

this too extreme. forms of being sexually assaulted on site. and at this point i just thought, well, i've been given this platform and i feel like, you know, i should something with it and should be represented in women construction women in construction and i guess just unfolded from guess it just unfolded from there. a construction there. i have a construction magazine. so started to profile women tell them story to try and get representing and get some representing and promote the stories of women to help attract them have more women and yeah over the last six years we've worked wild ten then you know we did the women in construction awards which was great fun and the proceeds you raised money for the maggie oliver that oliver foundation did that relationship about ? i met relationship come about? i met maggie a bar actually, but maggie in a bar actually, but i knew she was i bumped into her in manchester. she'd been watching the apprentice. i knew she anywhere. and she was she was anywhere. and she was telling me about the foundation. she was up. and i said, she was setting up. and i said, you like talks. i know it you know, like talks. i know it goes. it's anywhere help. goes. it's anywhere i can help. so friends since so we remained friends since then, the last five or six then, maybe the last five or six years. and i've watched the work that doing she's that she's doing and she's genuinely foundation genuinely leading a foundation from a heart like she wants . she

from a heart like she wants. she wants to see this change, she wants to see this change, she wants to see this change, she wants to do good. and i just think any who supports women , think any who supports women, that level of sacrifice in a career , a life, it is the pull career, a life, it is the pull of a women i feel like we had to get behind how nice as well. the construction, male construction, which is male dominated that for us to be able to go we've raised all of this money and give it to my game back to women who need it. yeah and of maggie all of this and of course maggie all of this foundation, know, foundation, if you don't know, you this now, she you know, this thing now, she supports and girls from supports women and girls from being and she was one of being abused and she was one of the officers for the rochdale scandal. she was one of the she she blew the whistle on it. so she's quite an incredible woman, isn't she yeah. gave up her isn't she yeah yeah. gave up her career and, blew the whistle. and then since then has gone to support and fight still support them and fight still continuously, you know the coming of everywhere salford coming of everywhere in salford and, driving and, maggie, is the driving force get real convictions. force to get real convictions. you know not three people out of 100 are getting put in prison for 12 months. this whole is flawed needs change. so if flawed and needs change. so if we can help in any way, that's what we tried to do. raise and

raise. you didn't win the raise. so you didn't win the apprentice think you should have? that you will have? who did win that you will say was to is as well as say it was to win is as well as us all the way to win is to see from you in touch with them. yeah do they vote with the win. is that the still friends basket and what do you up to now than with your business. was it going so about more focusing on the women and construction side of things you said we've still got the construction businesses, but we're doing the a waltz again this year had brilliant this year we had brilliant backing industry backing the industry companies like homes hays multiplex like retro homes hays multiplex really big businesses all willing to back us and they're doing it again a second year so we're going to be cracking them with that. and also we're starting in construction starting a women in construction network in hope. we've been given stage at construction given a stage at uk construction week run like a job stage week to run like a job stage talking eddie and i as a whole not just women in construction so the main i really so this is the main i really want to and make change so want to try and make change so if want sort of get into if women want sort of get into construction what advice you give them where they go. i mean

reach suppose you know like i say, we've started a hope so we're able to help them out given the buys match them up with employers. yeah try and find another woman in construction there isn't it. 50% seems small but that seems really small but that equates about half million equates about half a million women. try get yourself a women. so try get yourself a mentor and connections mentor and the connections i guess looks like you in guess who looks like you in construction, you've got a hub. what's what their website you can go yeah you can find it can go this yeah you can find it on design and i don't on design and build. i don't know all the information is on there we i thank you there when we can. i thank you very for coming in to talk very much for coming in to talk to michaela yes she is an to michaela way. yes she is an ambassador for in construction. she has her own business and of course, she apprentice in course, she was an apprentice in 2017. well, coming up . it's 2017. well, coming up. it's a great british debate this hour. i'm asking, is the net zero economic suicide in next week's budget? chancellor hunt plans to increase yields by £15 per litre, which means face increased costs, despite the ongoing cost of living crisis and of course, the number of people who fuel guzzling vehicles was higher than the number of people registering electric cars, which is now

becoming problematic. people don't seem be wanting to buy these things . and bearing in these things. and bearing in mind the government are planning to ban the sale of petrol diesel cars it look like cars by 2030, it look like they'll reach their target. so isn't zero economic suicide isn't net zero economic suicide stay tuned that's on the way .

next get afternoon is coming up to 22 minutes after 5:00. this is gb news on tv online and digital radio. we are the people's channel, nana akua. and it's time our great british debate this hour. and i'm asking is net zero economics suicide in the lead up to the spring budget next chancellor jeremy hunt has faced to scrap the planned increase to a hike in fuel duty . now this rise would see $0.15 increase per litre fuel, which would mean that drivers face increased costs , especially as

increased costs, especially as the ongoing of living crisis mounts . and i think also the mounts. and i think also the cost of fuel is actually decreasing. so it's interesting they should try to increase the duty. now, the national audit has deemed the government's target to generate all electricity from carbon sources by 2035. it's making progress. in addition , there's been a vast in addition, there's been a vast increase in the number people visiting petrol cars than electric cars. so people buying into the notion that they should be getting electric cars. and it turns out that a lot of middle england can't afford electric cars at all. and the current goals net zero by 2030, the government hope to ban the sale of petrol and diesel vehicles by 2030. finally, they plan to decarbonise the electric and finally by 2050. they aim to have reduced reached net zero of all uk sectors. all this for total cost of 1.4 trillion. however professor david rayner, who is an assistant director of the university of cambridge, is energy policy research group ,

energy policy research group, has said that reaching net zero as much more than would cost households twice as much more than that than the government's estimates . so for the great estimates. so for the great british debate this hour, i'm asking is net zero economic suicide . i'm asking is net zero economic suicide. i'm joined asking is net zero economic suicide . i'm joined now by the suicide. i'm joined now by the director of cop26 lewis perry and also a senior meteorologist at the weather services, jim dale . right. well, i'm going to dale. right. well, i'm going to start with you, jim . okay. so start with you, jim. okay. so we've got some targets by the government that seem to be unreachable. do you think we can actually do the 2050 thing? is it realistic? well, it was going to be tomorrow. was it ? i mean, to be tomorrow. was it? i mean, no, i recognise that i always see net zero as being something in terms of a an evolution, not a revolution that's how it has to be. perhaps we should have started 20, 30 years ago when there was a lot of detractors of this for the reasons. but let just take viewers back to why we're actually doing this in first instance. i think it's extremely important . i'm a extremely important. i'm a meteorologist, so this is all

about weather. and that's basically in the change in basically the in the change in the weather that will change the climate that this is changing climate that this is changing climate that this is changing climate that will continue do so into the future. we've seen massive extreme not just in our own for example last year in the summertime when we reach record temperatures but all all the world. now if we're talking economics there's no more bigger economics there's no more bigger economic than the catastrophes climate change and what that may well do and how that will impacts upon our climate. now, i'm not suggesting for one second that everybody's got to whether it be an individual, corporate , a government aiming corporate, a government aiming for net zero, aiming to reduce their co2 output is what this is about. so we get to a neutral point where what put out basically is offset by by what you keep in, what you put back in the ground. that's we're asking is not something that will necessarily affect your pocket. now i know what is

coming to and the government of us obviously made a decision it's the extent but think about this for one second. the reason we were having this dilemma and countries are not having this dilemma because of the state of the economy of these countries and ifs the economy of these countries and it's gone over the last and now it's gone over the last let's say the last few let's just say the last few months for the last several years, if you like. and that's the dilemma that we find ourselves in terms not being ourselves in in terms not being able afford move . so able to afford to move. so a leader that for now, i'm sure i'll have a little bit more in a second or two, but let's get lois in on this, because i saw lois in on this, because i saw lois shaking her head quite a few times. so some of the you said. yeah, i think you're probably surprised know that probably surprised to know that i . almost every single i disagree. almost every single thing said respectfully thing that he said respectfully disagree and the rest of europe respects they disagree with him as . you've got italy and you've as. you've got italy and you've got germany pushing back against the whole 2032 days of fine and all the stuff you've got people saying that all this is completely unviable there is no it's going to stay pipe is which

talked about the fact that pumps are not going to be ready that hydrogen is not going to ready, that 80% of commercial real estate on the net zero laws will be on letter ball by 2030. and also those ridiculous net zero british laws would include residential property , which residential property, which means that most landlords will just their properties, which means that most people won't be able to afford to live anywhere. you know, the whole is completely and utterly . and why completely and utterly. and why would any chancellor sanction a tax would shrink the economy? raising relation and put people on the dole queue ? as howard cox on the dole queue? as howard cox from fairfield, uk yesterday. it's state and i disagree completely with you, jim. you're talking about the weather, not climate. managed like the hundreds of thousands of years not 20 years. the low. it's making the thing clear. not 20 years. the low. it's making the thing clear . but just making the thing clear. but just on that point climate change. not not the climate changes all the time. let's that absolutely clear first of all but it

changes over and you . hang with changes over and you. hang with me. oh, sorry. let him finish , me. oh, sorry. let him finish, logan. now, instead of the it's what happened over the last 30 or 40 years and the extreme events, the extreme moments, i mean, when you were around last summer when we breach 40 degrees. we take took away the record temperature not just by a 10th of a degree, but by one and a half to two degrees, but it's bitten by oil and much. sorry, sorry . excuse me. please don't . sorry. excuse me. please don't. excuse me. sorry. i'm talking to him. by your own admission, he said the climate changing rapidly over a certain period of time. but you're only looking at one year. i mean, surely you couldn't at as, oh my couldn't look at that as, oh my god, definite proof . so god, this is definite proof. so do you need to look as? you said over a longer period of time to determine really real determine something really real is actually happening. i i understand what you're saying . understand what you're saying. let me make it clear. this isn't just about year. this has been going at any any going on look at any any temperature glass graphs. and that's talking that's that's what we're talking that's what methane added to

what does. and methane added to even worse, that's what what it doesit even worse, that's what what it does it puts the temperature profile up potentially against anything that we've seen in the previous let's just say the previous let's just say the previous three four. but to take your point, i'm going to take your point, i'm going to take your point, i'm going to take your point as if i agree with that 100, i'm going to say i agree with jim 100. i believe c02 agree with jim 100. i believe co2 is causing all these big problems, etc, etc. okay. even if you take into consideration even you believe that the fact even you believe that the fact even if there were more extreme weather events 100 years ago, which i don't believe they were, the fact that less people die from than any other point in human is because we are wealthy and because we can afford to create things that, you know, that negate the risk from these extreme weather events, you know, life expectancy doubled since the industrial revolution . it's now 80, not 40. and deaths from extreme weather events are down% over the last hundred years, too. even if i agreed you it is still ridic to

destroy our economy in the name of net zero. no but he wants this great, which is a tory voters don't want it in the express today two thirds of labour voters and 80% of all over 65. nobody this policy so side electoral system is let jim respond wouldn't believe a poll in the expressive if it hit me in the expressive if it hit me in face to be frank with you you're not sure we're getting figures from look this is nice and simple net zero isn't just about the co2 that might be the bottom line if you like but what we're talking about is the environment we're talking about pollution about pollution we're talking about all we gone all the things that we have gone overboard farming , overboard with the farming, agriculture, practises that agriculture, the practises that have gone on the even the sewage in the rivers, if you like. look, we don't want to live in a no good, jim. that's a different argument. no, no, no. that's a different argument because anybody evolution argument, anybody in evolution argument, plastic rivers, sewage, plastic in the rivers, sewage, you , we all agree on you know, we would all agree on that. that's the point that. so that's not the point net zero specifically, is net

zero specifically about equalising carbon, isn't it? so that there's nothing in there nothing else. so if we stick with that, okay so what i'm what l, with that, okay so what i'm what i, what i say to you is this is , as i said to in the very first instance, this is not something going to happen overnight or tomorrow we kind missed the boat 20 years ago when this was first discovered when climatologists people made people who the data people made people who the data people who look at the data see where it's going warn about it. those warnings went out big sirens went out . we would be sirens went out. we would be facing around the and if you see people always if you're talking people always if you're talking people you know except thing this if you like you talk to people that have been really really affected to the people of pakistan of people who lost their in any economy growth because you're crippling them. are people like crippling them by not enabling them to export and fossil fuels so they don't talk to me about the third world because they told i'll let you

respond. yeah even this discredits you about you. do you really think that there be convincing economic suicide by following the pamphlet that virtually every single agreed to you know this is going to happening it starts the destruction if you are not doing it and the euro zone is postponing that vote on the 20th, 32 days of ban indefinitely. okay no, the whole world isn't doing this. i think it's 2035, isn't europe. i think it's 2035, isn't europe. i think it's i think it's 2035. yeah my one direct question to that is, is what is your motive for saying what you say. now, i've got plenty of money. you've asked the question lately. you've asked the question , tim. you've asked the question, tim. you've asked the question, tim. you the question what is you asked the question what is the motive for saying what she's saying? let take what i was saying? let us take what i was really to grow up in the eighties. yeah but where everything was possible , where everything was possible, where you your own you could have your own business, have your own business, you'd have your own car, you could go anywhere wanted to and everything seemed

achievable children achievable now might children don't seem to have that they don't seem to have that are they going able to drive? are going to be able to drive? are they to able to travel? they going to able to travel? are going to be to start are they going to be to start their own businesses or somewhere when? no and it's somewhere or when? no and it's because policy. because of net zero policy. that's reason i'm doing this that's the reason i'm doing this . i don't see any of what you're saying out there. no i'm saying you can't drive . they say, well, you can't drive. they say, well, listen, so if you guys talk over each other, lois knows that jim finished him. you've got about 30 seconds. i'll give you the last word, jim. not nobody's saying seem to be saying about you seem to be almost putting yourself in a box saying. is this is the end saying. this is this is the end of world. your respect. of the world. in your respect. well, i tell you, it's not the end of the world in terms of in terms what we do day to day terms of what we do day to day and all that, it's just change things for better so that we things for the better so that we all are the future , the into the all are the future, the into the future to our children of a future to our children of a future . that's what this is future. that's what this is about. and as i say, step by step, it's not overnight . i'm step, it's not overnight. i'm going to have to give i'm going to give. lois, 10 to have to give. lois, 10 seconds to respond, because you talked about the box thing,

which is not fair. on, which is not fair. go on, quickly. got to on quickly. i've got to move on quickly. i've got to move on quickly. 10 seconds. yeah, i'm not in a box, say. oh, the not in a box, you say. oh, the policies were in policies that were enacted in the net included 15 the name of net zero included 15 minute cities, getting people out i'm crazy . i want out their i'm not crazy. i want to my children's. i want to protect my children's. i want them to be as excited about their future. as i was in the eighties. thank you very much. we're talk you both and we're going to talk you both and thank you, senior meteorologist at british weather services at the british weather services jim director call 26 jim also director of call 26 lois thank you so much lois perry. thank you so much you with me i'm not gonna quit this is gb news on tv online and on digital radio. coming up we'll with our great we'll continue with our great british debate this hour. i'm asking, net zero economic asking, is net zero economic suicide you'll the suicide? you'll hear the thoughts author thoughts of my panel author broadcaster christine hamilton. also broadcaster and journalist danny kelly. first, let's get your latest news headlines . hi your latest news headlines. hi there. it's approaching 25 to 6. i'm karen armstrong in the gb newsroom bbc coverages have been affected for a second day by

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debate this hour and i'm asking is it net zero economic suicide . in the lead to the spring budget next week chancellor jeremy hunt as face pressure to scrap the planned increase to hike in fuel duty now this rise would see a 15% increase per litre of fuel would be drivers will face increased cost despite being in the midst of a cost of living crisis . the national living crisis. the national audit office has also deemed government's target to generate all letters from low carbon sources by 2035. is making little progress . so in addition little progress. so in addition to that, there's been a vast increase in the number of people registering for petrol cars more than those for electric powered ones. so should the government carry on pursuing this ? net carry on pursuing this? net zero. whilst the public are still and to pay all these increases in fuel duties and the cost of these cars and on and so forth. so for the great debate this hour, i'm asking is net zero economic suicide? let's see what my panel make of that. i'm joined now by author and

broadcaster hamilton, broadcaster christine hamilton, aussie and annie aussie broadcaster and annie kelly and also car salesperson . kelly and also car salesperson. car dealer says what car dealership owner? well local adding owner on the end. what do isuppose adding owner on the end. what do i suppose sell the cars as well . okay, fine, fine. right. suddenly we're got to come to you straight away because this whole thing with net zero, you know infuriating boris know it's infuriating boris johnson he announced it johnson in 2020 he announced it almost it was dividend almost like it was a dividend because right to put because you were right to put paulson in the interview paulson up in the interview earlier european union ban petrol cars, diesel cars, 2035. and he's brought it forward five years. my god, man, what are you doing? if it's a brexit dividend, he should have put it back to 2014. that's getting back to 2014. that's getting back control. and i'm sorry, but i i've interviewed him over the years. he's a smashing, but i think he's out of touch with the general consensus about how normal feel and at the normal people feel and at the back of people's minds that thinking, hell is the thinking, what the hell is the point and net zero when point of go and net zero when you've got the likes of india and china pumping out spewing out belch, you know all of this

stuff? what is point? it's almost like a punitive why are we so flood and punishing ourselves when it comes to net zero put it back to 2040. honestly, just lucky for generally speaking, people have fallen out with electric cars. you can't sell on the used car market because people haven't got confidence in the ability to get cornwall to cumbria. well i was wondering what happens because obviously there was a lot of snow in parts of the north in this country and i was looking at all the traffic, all the and everything and i the cars and everything and i was if they wanted was thinking, go if they wanted one four of five to be one in four out of five to be electric cars, what happens in weather conditions like that with electric car? what happens today? first of you've today? well first of all, you've got called the beach got you called off the beach running. got to freeze to running. you got to freeze to death. they're going find death. they're going to find your 6 hours later, your corpse. 6 hours later, stuck car without any heating, stuck a car without any heating, because heating on, because if have the heating on, the battery's going to drain. the great about the great thing about a petroleum and it is they're going to find a lot less skeleton the great thing about a petroleum a diesel engine is petroleum or a diesel engine is the if run out of juice the fact if you run out of juice it takes 5 minutes. that's a bp

double myself, a snickers for £2.20 on a family , a family meal £2.20 on a family, a family meal deal £2.20 on a family, a family meal deal. there you go you'll be in and out within 5 minutes. you deal the electric car. you deal with the electric car. you know place to study. know the best place to study. christine i couldn't agree more. it is economic suicide. i think that was the question. is it economic? it make suicide? economic? so it make suicide? yes, is. and is putting yes, it is. and it is putting a ridiculous price on the people who are around today in the next 20, 30 years for ian testing will unrealistic not pursuing so—called gains i mean the amount that we produce at carbon emissions minuscule compared to what china were producing in the last eight years china have produced more than we have produced more than we have produced since industrial revolution, although they producing to make things for us so well they are they say we feel very virtuous so this is just offsetting carbon in a way i mean it's just nevertheless that they're building something 250 power stations not just in china but all over the world there they are populating the world, their ideas and their economy, etc. so what we do is

just so infinitesimal and we pay the most ludicrous economic price. i mean, apparently the total cost at the moment of this pursuit of net zero is nearly £60 billion a year, and that's £2,000 per house sold. and it's worth it. it's crazy. and when will the penny drop with the government? i don't know i don't know why it hasn't dropped. it's quite clear the manufacturers of the we the electric council said we can't manufacture to the pace that you want them. the people, the middle class, who they were expecting to them, can't expecting to buy them, can't afford them at the afford to buy them at the moment, 44 for one moment, paying 44 grand for one of things. well, i charge of those things. well, i charge it we got it certainly. we got we got a hybnd it certainly. we got we got a hybrid because we come in and out and we certainly out of london and we certainly weren't to pay weren't going to pay less charge. if you've got charge. so if you've got a hybrid, you don't have but something that lois said which i wanted to pick on these new wanted to pick up on these new regulations coming in regulations that are coming in for rented for commercially rented properties landlords renting domestic properties. they are going to be on rent shortly because all the rules , because of all the rules, regulations that going to regulations that are going to make if they meet make them if they don't meet certain carbon requirements ,

certain carbon requirements, you're not going to be able to rent the massive shortage of and i'm focussed on your central question is it economic, economic suicide i think is something that is terminal. it's the game. so i don't think it is suicide because. we're a nation of but by that i mean it's self inflicted . so what you're doing inflicted. so what you're doing is you're doing it yourself. it tends to i would say it's unnecessary especially when the jury unnecessary especially when the jury is still out on the full science of the net zero thing, because even if you have zero carbon or you seem to be what is the because you know, when we do things we think, well, if i do that and then everything will be fine but there's always something you something in there that you didn't just like didn't would happen, just like genetically food. we did this, we that this is perfect food. we do that this is perfect food. actually, we're more this is happening that happening because of that and because that. there is because of that. so there is always reaction, every action. always a reaction, every action. so the to zero zero so what is the to zero zero carbon is we factor that is carbon is to we factor that is what about. well i think what i worry about. well i think the we have been the popular we have been brainwashed about all this nonsense we really have and we too people are too big

too many people are too big a percentage of people in this country think that we're going to if we go on in to kill ourselves if we go on in the we been with cofco the way we have been with cofco , power stations and nuclear, etc. etc. and people genuinely don't. they don't they don't . don't. they don't they don't. the other side of the story, they don't follow that you know, they don't follow that you know, the global warming policy, for example, puts out example, which puts out a totally different set of figures and a totally different viewpoint and too many people just follow these picture for what i say scientists the woke scientists and they think this is gospel. it's not gospel are just not that we often do. but i think overall general consensus with science is that the planet is eating because of manmade activities or . man produced gas activities or. man produced gas . so you know, you'll come across bit of a climate change deniers she's not denying climate deniers no manmade change. she's not saying that these are , you know, not the these are, you know, not the clock the climate has changed throughout . it's gone. you know, throughout. it's gone. you know, everybody we've had co2 increases , the life span of

increases, the life span of planet. but what am i saying what about manmade co2 is reducing the lifespan of the. i'm not everything i not saying we shouldn't the question is that we think it's time to find the c02 . that we think it's time to find the co2 . the question is we are the co2. the question is we are the co2. the question is we are the point is we rushing towards net zero at the expense of this country, country's economy. and this country's people, while people in other parts of the world don't give a. i'm not a climate change denier, but you also are about the co2. it's people use the word denier because they want to cast back to denier and it's well i don't need any comparison again with thatis need any comparison again with that is it because it is in something what anybody who talk about language in the thirties you get no call back that's anybody who challenges the acceptable wisdom about change is called a climate change denier . i is called a climate change denier. i do not deny that. you know, it's unchanging, familiar . and i do actually that it's almost like someone's trying to

inqu almost like someone's trying to insult your intelligence study . insult your intelligence study. and the actual thing is nobody's the climate change. everything changes. nothing seems change. it is quite obvious but i think the question people are saying is how much impact does manmade c02 is how much impact does manmade co2 really have ? the planet, co2 really have? the planet, that's all that's the question . that's all that's the question. inever that's all that's the question. i never said that. i've just actually said manmade co2. you is now you to. i'm sorry, i seem to have caused a rabbit and you always what because always do what we think because we. right. this is nothing we. right. well, this is nothing without your views. let's welcome of great welcome some of our great voices. their opportunity voices. voices their opportunity to and tell us to be on the show and tell us what they think the topics what they think about the topics they're discussing. and i've got four let's start with four of you. let's start with david watford david david bombing what watford david are economic are we committing economic suicide net i was going to suicide net zero i was going to say baloney but i don't spoil it what do you think? west yes, we are a faustian. anna, just take the car argument. for instance they rape parts of africa and australia for the minerals that they need to drive the car which costs us electricity to power the car. so it's not green net zero cannot work unless we have the whole world actually

agreeing to a net zero policy because most want of britain going zero. if china , america, going zero. if china, america, india pumping out carbon into the atmosphere doesn't change a thing, especially after we're sort of buying stuff from them. so make it in the carbon comes out from their and their thing right miranda there she's in northamptonshire not the miranda richardson. miranda richardson and what do you think and miranda what do you think and miranda what do you think and that well it's a example of they do as i say, not do as i do is that you know, they're all telling us what we should be doing and, we should be achieving. but are to achieving. but are going to stop, know, getting planes stop, you know, getting planes and across the world, go and flying across the world, go to other countries for meetings for the next thing. they're all going be sitting at home on going to be sitting at home on zoom. of course not next is just not going to happen it's not going in meantime, going to work. and in meantime, we're sitting back , you know, we're sitting back, you know, as a being told we've got to a nation being told we've got to push this and like this push on with this and like this baloney, marvellous baloney . you baloney, marvellous baloney. you know, and i think christine said

it earlier, you know, we're brainwashed into thinking we've got to be like this. we just have we can do what we could do. we can all our bit in our effort. but to go net zero. impossible. let's go to jacqui sampson she's there is an open jacqui. yeah i read somewhere today that decarbonisation actually means deindustrialisation and i can't see how making life more expensive and harder to meet these targets is going to be anything other than certainly economic chaos more economic suicide. i'm in the aviation industry and i cannot imagine impact on my jobs and, all the jobs in the transport industry , jobs in the transport industry, the result in service , the car the result in service, the car industry pushing this carbon agenda. and i also think sam realistic and i agree with all the things other people have said and hypocritical because in order to have the components to make these environmentally friendly things , we've got to friendly things, we've got to rape and pillage poorer countries. so we're just falling

the problem. and again, as miranda and all these people flying on private jets to tell us what to do, do as i say. yeah that's a laugh. i don't happy about 27. there's been 27 of them that certainly opposition in milton keynes . what's your in milton keynes. what's your view . good afternoon, anna. view. good afternoon, anna. i with everyone on the panel and everyone that's discussing great british debate as you see now there is no clear cut to achieving zero. but what is clear that it's putting economics strain on our country and only on our country, on other countries globally . so other countries globally. so yes, definitely think we can sort think that this is actually causing suicide in achieving a net zero. but at the same time, then i do think we do need to do something about climate . you something about climate. you very much and very succinct two. quick. i didn't even have to stop you. thank you . keynes runs

stop you. thank you. keynes runs dorchester in northampton, said david in watford . jackie o, david in watford. jackie 0, thank you so much write that these are great british voices. it's now time for a supplement. when my panel and i discuss some of the news stories that caught our eye, i'm joined by author and broadcaster christine hamilton and also broadcaster and janice kelly. i want to start danny. danny, also start with danny. danny, also about too grotty for about brits being too grotty for lanzarote. it's a real lanzarote. well, it's a real slap in the face for, us all inclusive from great britain. they're actually going after the german market. apparently the german market. apparently the german is those germans. they spend more dough , more spend more dough, more sophisticated. they're less likely to get into a pawnshop at 3:00 after an all inclusive night out. and so that goes for the small quantity or higher quality . so it's not all about quality. so it's not all about the size . it's about what you do the size. it's about what you do with it . crikey, while you're with it. crikey, while you're out . in the with it. crikey, while you're out. in the hinterlands, with it. crikey, while you're out . in the hinterlands, know . out. in the hinterlands, know. oh, out. in the hinterlands, know. oh, have you been taking

lufthansa russell to volcanic island ? is it they film one of island? is it they film one of the james bond movies that is supposed to be like the moon. that's great. oh, yes, it is erotic. it's only a three hour flight. it's going to so later in the year. so that'll be nice. yeah, very nice. christine. okay well, i've got it's another sort of scene, but of tourist related scene, but this is because they're of tourist related scene, but this sunak.s because they're of tourist related scene, but this sunak. when use they're of tourist related scene, but this sunak. when he they're of tourist related scene, but this sunak. when he wasy're of tourist related scene, but this sunak. when he was the rishi sunak. when he was the chancellor he stopped foreign tourists reclaim tourists being able to reclaim the vat so they could get their goods they bought here 20% cheaper now they can only do that if they have the goods flown directly or sent directly to that country. so what has happened now is that two thirds after the pandemic, obviously they stopped because of covid, but two thirds of it is now reached. two thirds of pre pandemic level two. that means we are getting two thirds less money from foreign tourists because they cannot claim back the 20. it's again , it's the 20. it's again, it's madness. it'sjust the 20. it's again, it's madness. it's just another economic , another one to keep economic, another one to keep doing another verse. well let's then find it in my supplement. the welsh government is having been advised to destroy statues

that glorify powerful, older, able white men. yes examples of these statues are admirable . these statues are admirable. nelson the duke of wellington they claim that it can be offensive to people today who see them in a different light, potentially seeing as aggressors and conquered to expand the british empire. we're out of the game game . a middle aged white game game. a middle aged white guy - game game. a middle aged white guy . i think the world is going guy. i think the world is going nuts . you'd be boxed in. nuts. you'd be boxed in. i would. it would take a lot of that. i thought. i did that first. the world gone mental because are deranged. but as soon as you argue it or releases fascist, the people talking about people like nelson , i about people like nelson, i mean, you know we're not talking ogres. it's they'll have him down from his column in trafalgar before you say this really is not the way things are going, people feel they need to sanitise history and make us sort of you know, just try and sort of you know, just try and sort of you know, just try and sort of retell history in a way sort of retell history in a way so that people don't feel bad. it's hurt feelings don't

it's about hurt feelings don't hurt your feelings. so what do is we'll take this away when actually historical context actually the historical context of is essential, our of that thing is essential, our understanding of history so we can move learn they can move forward, learn they should all the aspects if should then all the aspects if you you want to delve in a you if you want to delve in a bit but cancel statues, bit more but cancel statues, it's cancel it's ridiculous this cancel culture. well what do you think then. should we smash them. no, that's not right. one today. so i've been asking the director general at the bbc resign and to our twitter poll, 35% of you say yes, 65% of you say no . i don't yes, 65% of you say no. i don't think you should resign either. do you think resigned? no, i don't think you should discipline lot of the people who went ad hoc strike and went on this ad hoc strike and given verbal warnings, written warnings . he given verbal warnings, written warnings. he should finish the job he started. well, thank you so much to panel lineker and broadcaster christine hamilton. christine, you much . christine, thank you so much. and danielle also john is and also a danielle also john is casting doddie kelly and as a huge thank you to you home for your company. i'll be back saturday same time, same place. hello i'm craig snow. and here's your latest forecast . the met

your latest forecast. the met office, well, the week ahead look going to be look like it's going to be unsettled uk. risk of unsettled across uk. risk of some further sleet in store as well, especially across the half of the country during the first part of the week. but for the rest of sunday we do actually have air across most the have mild air across most of the uk just really just holding uk airjust really just holding on very north of on across the very far north of the country but a smile that does come a lot of rain and does come with a lot of rain and this band of rain will actually move northwards we go move its way northwards as we go through the course of the night accompanied some winds accompanied by some brisk winds especially southern especially across the southern half the country could turn half of the country could turn quite as the quite windy for a time as the night goes on and as that rain bumps colder the far bumps up into the colder the far north, we will start to see some sleet and snow. in the sleet and snow. but in the south, with south, no problems with temperatures falling, much temperatures falling, not much lower 10 to 11 degrees in lower than 10 to 11 degrees in most towns cities. so monday across the south generally going to be a blustery with some bright spells, but also some outbreaks of rain. but to the north band of rain will north this band of rain will start to think it's very safe once turning to sleet and once again turning to sleet and snow eventually snow across and eventually across northern and northern

england, too. so for this part of the world, we could see some further disruption as we go through the course of tomorrow, courtesy the but the courtesy of the snow. but the south it, a mild day once south of it, a mild day once again highs reaching again could see highs reaching 14 degrees into evening. 14 or 15 degrees into evening. the cold air begins to sink its way a bit further southward , way a bit further southward, risk of some sleet and snow across parts of wales and eventually into the midlands and overall cold and icy night to overall a cold and icy night to come across the northern half of the country to the south it the rain will take a little bit longer to clear so probably no real problems frost across the southeastern country southeastern parts the country as start but tuesday as we start tuesday but tuesday generally a cold day for generally will be a cold day for all of us. plenty of bright spells actually to be had, but also the risk of some which is showers, especially across the northern of the country. northern half of the country. then kind of look towards then as we kind of look towards the middle part of the week, moderate does look it's moderate does look like it's going turn eventually, going to be turn eventually, especially across southern especially across the southern half country. but it will half the country. but it will come risk of. some come with the risk of. some further .

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