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michelle dewberry i look at that one day as let me out of the studio. yes, i'm in a pub. yes i am in yorkshire . travel? yes we am in yorkshire. travel? yes we are live from doncaster. good evening, everybody . was are we evening, everybody. was are we going to be speaking about tonight ? well, going to be speaking about tonight? well, i going to be speaking about tonight ? well, i feel there's tonight? well, i feel there's just one topic in town today , just one topic in town today, the budget. i want to talk to you tonight and i want to know what have you made? so we're all doesit what have you made? so we're all does it affect you? are you happy tonight? you sing? i hope i will. that's what i want to
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say to you at home say to you sitting at home going, in that for me? going, what was in that for me? are you sitting there going, just these little outs and just get these little outs and get i your get labour? and i want your thoughts on all of that. i got housewives favourite ben have been britain's best been one of britain's best friends he's in the company friends when he's in the company . i'm so socialist, what a fantastic audience and what it all coming up for you over the next hour. but before we get into we all let's bring ourselves up to speed, shall we? tonight's list is headlines with polly middlehurst . michelle, polly middlehurst. michelle, thank you and good evening to you.the thank you and good evening to you. the top stories on gb news tonight. well, jeremy hunt has vowed to encourage millions to rejoin the workforce and boost britain's financial growth. in his first budget as chancellor mr. hunt said the office for budget responsibility now forecasts the uk will no longer enter a recession this year instead. inflation is predicted to fall from 10.7% at the end of
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last year to 2.9% by the end of 2023. let's take you through the key points . 2023. let's take you through the key points. in a 2023. let's take you through the key points . in a speech lasting key points. in a speech lasting almost an hour today, the chancellor announced these measures, including a change in duty paid on draught products in pubs , meaning beers and cider pubs, meaning beers and cider will be up to $0.11 lower than they are in supermarket , as they are in supermarket, as something he said was only possible post—brexit. you could also see that if you're watching on television, the treasury is going to freeze fuel duty for a further 12 months and abolish the lifetime allowance on tax free pension savings, which originally stood at £1,000,000. also announced today the energy price guarantee will remain in place for a further three months, meaning the average household will pay two and a half thousand pounds a year and around 4 million customers on prepayment metres will pay the same as those on direct debits . same as those on direct debits. and jeremy hunt announced an increase to the defence budget for the uk worth £11 billion
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over the next five years. and perhaps the headline grabbing most people's attention, the shake up of childcare from this government. jeremy hunt saying every child over the age of nine months in eligible households will be offered 30 hours of free childcare per week, freeing the way for more women to return to work . we have never seen before work. we have never seen before such a comprehensive attempt to say that in this country, if people want to work, we should take away the barriers . and that take away the barriers. and that doesn't matter if you're an older person, someone who's disabled or someone who is looking for work , a parent looking for work, a parent worried about childcare costs. the government is on your side. if you want to work, we want to help you. jeremy hunt well , help you. jeremy hunt well, labour called the budget a sticking plaster and accused the government of a managed decline of the country. piers opening boast was that things aren't quite as bad now as they were in october last year. off the kamikaze budget. yeah yeah. and
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the more that he pretends everything is fine, the more he shows just how out of touch they are. and after 13 years of his government , our economy needed government, our economy needed major surgery. but like millions across our country, this budget leaves us stuck in the waiting room with only a sticking plaster to hand . well, in plaster to hand. well, in reaction, union leaders today criticised the chancellor's budget for failing to tackle ongoing strikes across the country . today thousands of country. today thousands of teachers , junior doctors, tube teachers, junior doctors, tube drivers in london and bbc journalists have all been taking industrial action over issues including pay jobs , pensions and including pay jobs, pensions and conditions . unite's general conditions. unite's general secretary said jeremy hunt didn't prioritise the nhs, instead delivering a historic betrayal . meanwhile, the london betrayal. meanwhile, the london stock exchange has suffered its worst losses since the start of the covid pandemic and fears of a banking crisis intensify. the footsie 100 closed down more
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than 292 points, as global banking stocks fell just days after the collapse of silicon valley bank in the united states. credit suisse , one of states. credit suisse, one of the worst affected, saying its share price dropped by a quarter to a new record low and that comes a day after the bank told investors it had failed to identify risks in finance. a report saying the swiss government is now being urged to intervene to protect the lender it needs away from the budget. three men have been arrested after a drive by shooting outside a church in london in january, one of the 19 year old ali chico nelson martin has been charged with possession of a shotgun with intent to endanger life and six other counts of intent . the two other men have intent. the two other men have been arrested on suspicion of conspiracy to murder. they remain in custody . four women remain in custody. four women and two little girls aged 11 and seven, were injured in the incident. a 48 year old is still under going treatment in
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hospital . those are your latest hospital. those are your latest news headlines. we are back at 7:00 with more. let's get back now to michelle dewberry in doncaster . doncaster. yes, thank you for that, holly. welcome back, everybody . if you welcome back, everybody. if you are just tuning in, i am michelle sue gray. this is jobs and we are live in doncaster. what's a train ? i love it when what's a train? i love it when they let me out and i promise to be on my best behaviour tonight. i'm not sure about my panel. i hope they will be too, because joining me keeping company in joining me keeping me company in doncaster 7:00 doncaster live till 7:00 tonight, we've got of tonight, we've got two of my absolute joe absolute favourites. joe phillips political phillips is a political commentator ben habib, the commentator and ben habib, the former brexit mep and the former brexit party mep and the ceo of fast property group . ceo of fast property group. welcome, everybody. and you know the drill, don't you? on dewbs & the drill, don't you? on dewbs& co is not just about wall street. it's not just about the
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beautiful people here in doncaster. it's very much about you guys at home well. what you guys at home as well. what is your mind tonight? i want is on your mind tonight? i want you narrow your thoughts you to narrow your thoughts down, will, to the down, if you will, to the budgets specifically, because that's get into that's what i want to get into right through till 7:00 tonight. i your thoughts . are you i want your thoughts. are you excited about what was in it? are happy? you sitting are you happy? are you sitting there what was there thinking, what was all that you frustrated that about? are you frustrated or what? give me all of your thoughts. gbviews@gbnews.uk. as thoughts. gbviews@gb news.uk. as per thoughts. gbviews@gbnews.uk. as per usual, is the email or you can tweet me at gb news. now i have to say i want to start by asking the people here in doncaster their impressions, their thoughts about what they saw and heard in the budget today. i was just pondering that dufing today. i was just pondering that during the news and someone said, well, i've got to be honest, michelle and even seen the budget today because i was busy at work. so if you are in that category, let me just remind you, the energy price guarantee will be remaining at 25 £2 for the next few months. that's good. if you've got younger good as younger kids, that's good as well because apparently 30 hours
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of before it was of free childcare before it was only for age three and upwards will now be younger children as well. but there's a catch. it will actually take place. so after next election , you after the next election, you call tax. you remember there was lots of about whether or lots of talk about whether or not tax was going to stay not co—op tax was going to stay as or reduce or whatever. as it was or reduce or whatever. thatis as it was or reduce or whatever. that is going up to 25. there's loads of stuff on pensions. they just it's all in just loads of booze, it's all in there anyway. so arms up who and doncaster are not you to a constituency who is happy by what was in the budget today? hands up, do not be shy . hands up, do not be shy. there'll be a long programme . there'll be a long programme. all right. well, there's quite a few . i can't you. all right. well, there's quite a few. i can't you. i'm going to be spinning around in my chair tonight. so hopefully what get doesin tonight. so hopefully what get does in fall off. let's pick this we're going to this chap here. we're going to get microphone. hold your get you a microphone. hold your thoughts. tell me your name and tell happy tell me why are you happy tonight hi. is joan tonight? hi. my name is joan bradford. and one of the things that i'm most enjoy today was the of reducing the prospect of reducing inflation to 1 to 3% by december because i think inflation is what damages the man and woman
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in the street business. it's the killer in your pocket. it reduces the power of your pound . so to me, that is what i really took from today's budget. and i hope that i will be proved right. we will look to prove jeremy will be proved right that we can actually get our economy growing again and get inflation down so we can all actually prove the support of the pound because it was over time, inflation was over 10% at the end of last year. now they reckon it's going to be about 2.6, the end of this 2.6, 2.7 by the end of this yeah 2.6, 2.7 by the end of this year. do you believe that? but do you believe that you to do you guys believe that you to have inflation two point have inflation of two point something end of year something by the end of the year going to there's a run going to say there's a run a resounding in the audience. resounding no in the audience. but anyway you're happy to show, i and to me that would be i hope. and to me that would be the i could take one the real if i could take one thing budget, it would thing from this budget, it would be inflation be to bring inflation down because industry the man and woman in the street we all benefit we a completion benefit when we get a completion down. him a happy down. that's made him a happy man. anyone else who man. so nice. anyone else who said they happy. said that they were happy. there was of you . where have you was a few of you. where have you gone? now that there's a
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chapter. tell me a name and tell me why you're happy tonight . get me why you're happy tonight. get the microphone. the pimp. keep your hands up . come on. know your hands up. come on. know that call? blimey, they're there , right? come on, give us your name. my name's steve maher. i'm going to be a long night. everyone in it go. i'm all right. my name's steve martin. the financial adviser. oh, the local financial adviser. oh, very the budget. very happy with the budget. actually pensions yeah. actually got pensions? yeah. scrapping allowance. scrapping lifetime allowance. increasing the annual allowance from 40 60000. so from 40 to 60000. so professionally , very happy. professionally, very happy. see, my clients . but from a personal my clients. but from a personal perspective , what is it doing perspective, what is it doing for the old me working man? well i'm going to ask these kinds of questions. me you this. questions. let me ask you this. these pensions, they've been criticised, being criticised, apparently, of being a rich. that a giveaway to the rich. is that fair? don't know about fair? well, i don't know about good to the rich. mean, it good way to the rich. i mean, it is michael funds. is fairly elitist michael funds. i've fairly elite sport in i've just fairly elite sport in terms of lifting the annual allowance he a more allowance he gives a lot more scope to plan for scope for people to plan for their longer term. their retirement longer term. indeed, i like indeed, how people that i like that else happy. i'm sure that anyone else happy. i'm sure there was someone in this right in front over that. in front of me over that. there's a chap there. so in
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booted on the of the booted on the back of the microphone tell me this is my last make a great one. last one. so make a great one. why you happy with what why are you happy with what you've hi, my you've had tonight? hi, my name is leeds. two things is scott from leeds. two things i'm happy with the 11 billion defence boost over five years and the nuclear power infrastructure . i hate riots, infrastructure. i hate riots, power and defence, making him happy briefly in the audience. anyone unhappy by what they've had tonight on happy ? cool. if had tonight on happy? cool. if you're listening and you're not watching so you can't see the show of handlers, let me tell you, there's more hands that have gone up saying that they're not happy than what they were for. people saying that they were that could be down were happy, that could be down to into to shyness because we got into it. but now, but i suspect it. a but now, but i suspect there's more people unhappy that chat get my offensive chat luck and i get my offensive him section in him said where that section in front of me tell your name front of me tell me your name why not happy? oh yeah. why are you not happy? oh yeah. hi, michelle. i think that this should have at very least basic rating think. rating income tax. i think. sorry. corporation tax. sorry. and corporation tax. i think , taxes are too think that said, taxes are too high tax burden is on high a high tax burden is on record. i think taxes should
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record. and i think taxes should have been cut. inflation might be down to 2.9. but be coming down to 2.9. but that's an office of budget responsibility projection than even responsibility projection than ever. right. and i think that, you know, general working people should get tax cut and help should get a tax cut and help out think that is a very out. i think that is a very interesting one my panel. interesting one of my panel. i think we have strong views on that. one more from the audience for bring my panel in. thank for i bring my panel in. thank you for that chap here. that's not hands can i get not happy. hands up. can i get a microphone to him? there we go. is getting step count is is getting a step count up is tony why you're not tony go on. why you're not watching neck. why is watching kevin's neck. why is this the charm that they're saying about the northern and levelling again? never levelling up again? never happens. levelling up again? never happens . it levelling up again? never happens. it never happens . the happens. it never happens. the no, the northern so—called levelling up funds. i've got to say, i do agree with you, actually. does anyone else pay a level don't pair in doncaster. no, no , there's not a lot of no, no, there's not a lot of what if someone does shout out there's a heckler that i wanted someone just heckle. out to me is a jerk, he says in a nice northern accent. i joke. northern accent. ijoke. i always sounds like we're saying jack we saying joe one of jack when we saying joe one of the same thing anyway, my panel,
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ben summary ben habib, your summary thoughts on budget and what we're on the budget and what we're going to the rest of the going to do for the rest of the show. we're going go into the show. we're going to go into the quadrant quadrants. let me get in impartial. we're to get in impartial. we're going to get into sections of the into the sections of the projects but projects as we go along. but overall thoughts as it stands. well, all, i'm well, first of all, i'm delighted be here with a live delighted to be here with a live audience. brilliant idea, michelle, thank you very much. i know that this is why i always tongue in cheek, even though ben habib has always said he wouldn't employ me. this is why i always say , and if you missed i always say, and if you missed the episode, missed out. it the episode, you missed out. it is the longest job interview in history. she's going to. if you want the job, you've got the job done. want to web done. i don't want to web gb news instead. anyway that's one of the reasons i do jokingly call it housewife's favourite. your you your manners are impeccable. you were agree with were saying? well, i agree with all made the all the comments made by the audience inflate and audience so far and inflate and coming down is obviously a very good thing. we have to bear in mind that we've actually had rampant inflation in this country for 13 years now . people country for 13 years now. people may not recognise that because they've only come, that figures
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only come through in the official statistics in the last 12 months. but if you cast your mind back to post the financial crisis when money was being printed by bank of england printed by the bank of england to bail out the banks and to bail out those people who actually brought the economy to its what that did to its knees, what that did was to push asset prices up the price of property, the price of shares sold out of reach of the working and middle classes. so sold out of reach of the working and middle classes . so before and middle classes. so before the consumer price inflation that we've had more recently , we that we've had more recently, we actually had rampant asset price inflation and that was when that was when capitalism was fundamental, was when capitalism was fundamental , utterly broken. as fundamental, utterly broken. as a result of quantitative easing. and then we had much more of that during covid lockdown. and what we've now got is the third leg of inflation, which is consumer price inflation, that having robbed the working and middle classes of the ability to get on the housing ladder, they're now robbing the working and middle classes of the ability to put food on the table and heat their homes.
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ability to put food on the table and heat their homes . and so and heat their homes. and so inflation done is really inflation coming done is really critical. and i think it will come down. by the way, i think the people that level the two points i think it can't it can't sustain these high levels because inflate and by definition is measured against you know , what it was 12 months you know, what it was 12 months ago and we eventually catch up with ourselves and the economy slowing down is going to have a gravity pull down on inflation. so one of the easiest thing that rishi sunak said himself when he gave himself those five targets for 2023 was bringing inflation down. what i really wanted to see in this budget was a general reduction in taxes. i think one of the point you know, we are at a post—war world war two high in taxes . we're also at taxes. we're also at a post—world war two high in national debt. never before in my lifetime has the country been as indebted, is as taxed as it is at the moment. and the only way, the only way the working middle class is private businesses , large businesses. businesses, large businesses. the private sector generally is
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going to recover is if taxes come down. and actually the single worst thing in today's budget was the increase in corporation tax from 19% to 25. yeah think and that that is an inflexion point and that is one of the things that i want to get into a little bit more in detail a bit later on this programme i'm fascinated as well. i've got a of applause here, so a big round of applause here, so i want to get people's views on that. so we'll come back to the court you'll remember court tax. you'll remember i thought jeremy thought well, i thought jeremy hunt like a doctor hunt was a bit like a doctor doing ward round, you know, doing a ward round, you know, rather soothing, awfully nice. but you as if he hadn't but you felt as if he hadn't read notes of the patients. read the notes of the patients. and as gentleman and i think as the gentleman over said, know, three over there said, you know, three over there said, you know, three over 3 million people are now going dragged into the going to be dragged into the bafic going to be dragged into the basic of income tax. and we basic rate of income tax. and we know wages have gone down basic rate of income tax. and we knowin wages have gone down basic rate of income tax. and we knowin realages have gone down basic rate of income tax. and we knowin real terms. ave gone down basic rate of income tax. and we knowin real terms. thejone down basic rate of income tax. and we knowin real terms. the two down 3.5% in real terms. the two figures are yesterday . and, you figures are yesterday. and, you know, jeremy hunt has found figures are yesterday. and, you know, jformy hunt has found figures are yesterday. and, you know, jfor varioust has found figures are yesterday. and, you know, jfor various things)und figures are yesterday. and, you know, jfor various things like money for various things like freezing the fuel duty and bits
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and pieces like that. but there's been nothing for the nurses and all the people who are on strike today, many of them in the public sector. so i think but i the masses are quite wrong . so i've got to say, the wrong. so i've got to say, the only strikes this time is blair and to one now. but i thought the strikes is the masters of press posed on the air strikes because they were and i'm just press posed on the air strikes bec.havethey were and i'm just press posed on the air strikes bec.have but were and i'm just press posed on the air strikes bec.have but but'e and i'm just press posed on the air strikes bec.have but but there i'm just press posed on the air strikes bec.have but but there are just press posed on the air strikes bec.have but but there are other say have but but there are other strikes as well as i made myself late tonight by getting stuck in them. and with them. i know and i agree with what i mean, the what ben said. i mean, the problem of taxation, it's not much point in giving with one hand taking away with the hand and taking away with the other, affect other, because it does affect people, know, in the middle. people, you know, in the middle. i are some sort of i mean, there are some sort of reasonable things in there. but i think a lot of it is very cosmetic. well, it was £63 million to keep leisure centres and pools afloat. i'm very in favour of that. well, i used to come on school trips to doncaster, to doncaster dome, that be that many of you will be familiar with. so is that good news to the people of doncaster? a swimming will be kept a swimming pool will be kept warm. that the kind of thing
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warm. is that the kind of thing that there and you that you sit there and you think, brilliant? is think, brilliant? that is a great £63 million? or do great use of £63 million? or do you think, are you doing? you think, what are you doing? you've your priorities you've got your priorities wrong. you think? wrong. what do you think? derbyshire i was about derbyshire i was told about swimming because in the swimming pools because in the end thing end that's the sort of thing that takes the pressure off local authorities. i mean, what we see yet is the detail we don't see yet is the detail whether people organisations whether people and organisations and authorities and and local authorities and businesses or all sports providers are going to have to go cap in hand and bid against each other, which is what so often happens with this. but, you know, anything that helps keep fit, active and keep people fit, active and healthy has got to be good and in the long term, that's going to save for money the nhs. yeah, another thing that caught my eye as potholes they're going as well. potholes they're going to spend £200 million boosting the pothole fund . i'll leave it the pothole fund. i'll leave it to you to whether or not to you to decide whether or not that's a great use of money. £200 million invested in local regeneration projects. 12 new investment zones . apparently, investment zones. apparently, they're going to make it 12 mini canary wharfs. is that what we need ? well, it's really need? well, it's really interesting. you know , you
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interesting. you know, you mentioned those 12 investment zones and i'm going to put the heating of swimming pools into context. each one of those invest zones is going to get £80 million worth funding. he's not going to deliver tax cuts to the zones. he's not going to attract businesses people to move to businesses and people to move to the by giving them tax the zones by giving them tax breaks. he's actually going to spend quid and for spend 80 million quid and for each one of these zones and there's one in northern ireland, which a, you know, a place which is a, you know, a place that's close to my heart. they get million quid. get get 80 million quid. they get a heat thing, pulls £63 million. so levelling up is so what kind of levelling up is 80 million quid times 12? that's 1 billion. that sounds like a lot of money. actually, it's a drop in the ocean if that's that tilt towards levelling up. it's fundamentally flawed. what he needed to do was something much more dramatic , which which was more dramatic, which which was to make it much more cost effective and tax efficient for businesses to operate in areas where hitherto they've been reluctant to move . and i'm going reluctant to move. and i'm going to take northern ireland because it's a very good example. the corporation tax rate in northern
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ireland is about to go to 25. northern ireland operates on the island of ireland as one economy with the republic , which has with the republic, which has a corporation tax rate of 12 and a half% so if you're a business, where are you going to go? and we saw this in spain a few weeks ago. and if the audience saw this in the papers, disasters . this in the papers, disasters. zenica you know, a backbone of british pharma industry , and british pharma industry, and we're proud of our research and development history in this country has decided not to open its new facilities in the united kingdom, but to go to the repubuc kingdom, but to go to the republic of ireland. and that should be a huge warning shot against the chancellor's powers about what destruction his higher taxes are going to do to the countries of the £80 million spending that he's going to these 12 zones is a drop in the ocean. and i have to say, in case you're just down to washington as well, when we reference the corporation tax, the fact that, of course, it isn't going to be reduced and as we all know, it's going to be
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increased to 25. that got a huge round of applause from the people in doncaster. so i'm going to take quick break and going to take a quick break and when come back i'm going to when i come back i'm going to get into but i also as get into that. but i also as well, when back, i want well, when i come back, i want to get into the things like the child and all rest of child care and all the rest of it. theresa emailed me saying, it's that more funding it's good that more funding will be available, about the be available, but what about the families now in the here families that now in the here and struggling all of and now are struggling all of this not happening in a large this is not happening in a large pot after the next pot anyway. so after the next election make a point election you make a good point that you can point to that theresa, you can point to this we're on a break, if this while we're on a break, if you will, like what do you reckon timing of some of reckon to the timing of some of these announcements? is it just basically politicians doing politics? bit politics? is there a little bit more than that? do you more to it than that? do you find that frustrating that you read headlines? it read these great headlines? it yeah, to help me yeah, that's going to help me and you realise what actually is not to happen. and so a not going to happen. and so a year or so down the line, your thoughts timing and i'll thoughts on the timing and i'll see into .
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hello hello. welcome back to back to michelle dewberry we are of course keeping the theme with a big fat b that is the budget right through till 7:00 tonight. i want your thoughts on this. i would just been having the comment now from one of my viewers, theresa, about childcare and pointing out and she's very smart is our theresa saying, well, this is all great, but it's not going to happen. and perhaps after the next and so perhaps after the next election . ben habib, talk election. ben habib, let's talk timing for a second. what do you think this? because think to this? because some interesting announcements , but interesting announcements, but they're going to in they're not going to happen in they're not going to happen in the which is when the here and now, which is when people the yeah people need the support. yeah well, you know, with the well, i mean, you know, with the childcare thing he's created a, childcare thing, he's created a, a for the chancellor that a burden for the chancellor that comes in post the election and i think the conservative party accept that they're going to lose the next election. it's lose the next election. so it's going labour probably going to be labour probably that's office and it'll a that's in office and it'll be a millstone next millstone round the next chancellor to fund that
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chancellor is nec to fund that six a half billion is six and a half billion that is a lot of money. six and half lot of money. six and a half billion pounds. was the billion pounds. that was the biggest giveaway biggest spending giveaway made today. made for the future. today. but made for the future. chancellor for not for chancellor not for it. not for this government and i would have much preferred to have seen if he was going to , you if he he was going to, you know, if he could afford spend six and a half billion pounds, i would have preferred to seen have much preferred to have seen the tax cut by one the basic rate of tax cut by one and a half, which i think a roughly the same amount of, you know, roughly the same amount of money. but, of course, he's not going to do that now. he's going to just before the to do that just before the election . yeah. so go into election. yeah. so they go into the election with a tax cut behind them politicking. joe well, absolutely. and mean, well, absolutely. and i mean, he's, politics he's, he's played politics quite well. mean , i'm sure there well. i mean, i'm sure there will be detractors within his own saying he hasn't own backbenches saying he hasn't gone far enough or he's gone too far they started the other far or they started the other because you know, they're never happy, he put happy, are they? but he has put pressure been said on pressure has been said on an income . let's assume labour income. let's assume labour government but if not our next chancellor to stick to some of these promises which are way in
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these promises which are way in the distant future. but if you are right now and we were talking about this last week, michel, you know, if you are right now spending thousand of pounds each year in order to be able to go to work for putting your children in nursery, this isn't going to make any difference to you now, and you might end up paying more tax. and think there are other and i think there are other things wraparound care things like this wraparound care for schools where we know schools are struggling because they're struggling to pay the wages of their teaching assistance, to pay energy bills , to keep up with the general cost of living. and there's this political disconnect with figures, and it's always been the answer of this government when anybody complains about anything , they say, oh, we're anything, they say, oh, we're spending x billion pounds on this . they never say, that's so this. they never say, that's so many more police officers or so many more police officers or so many more police officers or so many more nurses. it's all about money. but when you break it down, where does it go for general ? i think i'm a little general? i think i'm a little bit awful. i'll probably get cold racist or something, because when you say, oh, it's
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always about money and no one ever says x amount of policemen, i've ever says x amount of policemen, pve the ever says x amount of policemen, i've the habit now of i've got into the habit now of comparing figures comparing all of these figures to spend per day, to how much we spend per day, putting people costing the channel putting people costing the channel, for hotels . i channel, etc. open for hotels. i do. i can help. i do that . now. do. i can help. i do that. now. i know everyone in this room is under the age of 21. i can see that's what's one of the key focuses on the rishi sunak's agenda was it's all about getting people back into the workplace, isn't it? lots of people, particularly the over fifties, have left the world of work. good on you if you are one of them. but all these incentives have been discussed to get back into to try and get you back into society. about you? society. what about you? pensions. rid of the pensions. getting rid of the lifetime allowance allow to lifetime allowance allow you to save etc. one of the save more, etc. but one of the things caught eye might things that caught my eye might caught yours is kind caught yours is this kind of nofion caught yours is this kind of notion ships, think notion of return ships, i think they like an they call like an apprenticeship. the idea of a fifties, i've got to say, some of i'm to be nice and of you, i'm going to be nice and i mostly wrote about 21, but some of you might be over 50. is there anyone here who perhaps
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left work or is considering a career change? it sees the nofion career change? it sees the notion of return ships like an apprenticeship or thinks, yes, thatis apprenticeship or thinks, yes, that is for me. i'm going to go and do an apprenticeship and get back into a new trade . the back into a new trade. the silence is deafening . if you are silence is deafening. if you are listening , not watching, and you listening, not watching, and you can't see what's going on. not a single solitary person has got their hand up and i don't actually think it's because they're shy. i think it's because the of being over because the notion of being over 50, going into an apprenticeship is people want . you is not what people want. you know, there's a lot of criticism out there well, saying that out there as well, saying that this a pro pro—business this isn't a pro pro—business project . when ben habib was project. when ben habib was mentioning corporation tax sally wrong. lots of you clapped. can someone put their hands up? do not be shy and tell me what is it about corporation tax? do you disagree with what happened today? so going from 19 to 25% is getting a microphone over to you, sir. tell me your name. tell your thoughts in the tell me your thoughts in the court please. hi. my name's court tax, please. hi. my name's joe. and basically they're taking 6% of profits. taking away 6% of my profits. more or less , it's less money.
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more or less, it's less money. i invest , it's less money. i can invest, it's less money. i can into the market. so i give to my employees . i can't do it. when employees. i can't do it. when you take away money from me, it's not good. right. i'm going to play devil's for everybody around me. it's not good. i'm going to play devil's advocate because they'll people at because they'll be people at home go wow. home watching go. wow. the problem this is the problem in this country is the business owners, they're all greedy to make an absolute fortune. so 6% to them? fortune. so what is 6% to them? tax i'm an extra 10. what would you said like that. you said something like that. unfortunately, i didn't come in one my ferraris. all one of my three ferraris. all right . yeah, i am single. are right. yeah, i am single. are you single ? got three, four you single? got three, four going. the reality is that most small businesses , which is what small businesses, which is what we are constantly told the uk is made up of these shops . only made up of these shops. only small boys, small businesses don't like don't make all this money. it's not a question that turn turnover , maybe over turn turnover, maybe over £1,000,000, whatever it is, it doesn't all go in my pocket, unfortunately. and you make a very good point. i'll bring this
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up.thank very good point. i'll bring this up. thank you for that. you bfing up. thank you for that. you bring you major, just because the british chambers of commerce . she wants my job. no, no, no. i'm just interested. know owen thinks that british chambers of commerce said that they would really disappoint if there wasn't anything a reform wasn't anything about a reform of and of business rates. and i wondered if that's something that feeling. and i'm that you had a feeling. and i'm very we don't pay . we're very lucky. we don't pay. we're a business, we a small business, so we don't pay a small business, so we don't pay business rates as pay any any business rates as such. pay any any business rates as such . but yes, if you talk about such. but yes, if you talk about a high street that we haven't got any more on all of these things unless we do something radical, we will not regenerate the uk. we spend everybody's spend this year to the day after day running down our country. we have a brilliant country. we have a brilliant country. we have a brilliant business. people that are innovative and everything else . but if we everything else. but if we continue like this one per year else said . one of live here is
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else said. one of live here is else said. one of live here is else has been in contact. so michelle, please will you tell the public the full story when it comes to corporation tax because not all companies will because not all companies will be all of this because be paying all of this because they be allowed to offset they will be allowed to offset some own investment off some of their own investment off their profits. they're talking about deduction , about the super deduction, aren't it's 100, but aren't they? yeah, it's 100, but it's as it once it's not as good as it once previously was . ben well, i previously was. ben well, i mean, it's not just corporation tax well . i was hearing tax as well. i was just hearing what owen was saying i what owen was saying and i completely endorse everything what owen was saying and i comwere ly endorse everything what owen was saying and i comwere ly end0|buteverything what owen was saying and i comwere ly end0|but they've|g you were saying. but they've also reduced the threshold at which entrepreneurs would pay capital gains tax. they've increased the tax rate on dividends. if you're a patrician owner of your business and you provide long term employment, actually, at the end of the day , you've paid more corporation tax. you've got money to tax. you've got less money to pay dividends , and that dividend pay dividends, and that dividend income to be taxed even income is going to be taxed even more greatly . so there's less more greatly. so there's less and less incentive to take the risks that people like own take when they set up their business. they employ people . so it's they employ people. so it's completely back to front and there's one other example i just
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want to give about what this chart shows very short is last november, he removed a quarter of a billion worth of tax credits on research spend by companies into fintech . and companies into fintech. and i into artificial intelligence. he removed that tax credit on investment . so a quarter of investment. so a quarter of £1,000,000,000 and you replace it with £360 million of government grants for the same thing. and it's an ideological problem that these people have . problem that these people have. they don't want to cut taxes and allow us to make all decisions of what we do with our money and how we invest it in our businesses, what they want to do is direct money the way they see best for the by their own judgements, and that is not how you the sector you get the private sector moving. the government will make bad . they've to cut bad decision. they've got to cut taxes and let businesses get on with they spend that money. with how they spend that money. amen to that . gloria. gloria has amen to that. gloria. gloria has beenin amen to that. gloria. gloria has been in touch. one of my view is she says, please don't laugh at
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michelle, but i'm 78 and i would love to go back to work to boost my pension. but there's so much ageism out there, it's unfair, she i've my she says. i've got all my faculties and i could run rings around some of youngsters around some of these youngsters . gloria, don't doubt you. . so, gloria, i don't doubt you. actually, sir, retired actually, gloria, sir, a retired ship for gloria. you ship is perhaps for gloria. you go get them, go. you run rings around those youngsters. i don't doubt you for a second. i'm not going anywhere. but i will see you. and to get your thoughts coming in, what about the budget? your thoughts .
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hello there. welcome back to and time with me michelle dewberry here in doncaster alongside me joe phillips, the political commentator and the former brexit party mep and businessman ben habib . welcome back, ben habib. welcome back, everybody. paul in hartlepool's as michelle the freezing of the fuel duty for a year is an
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absolute joke . you do expand absolute joke. you do expand your reasons why and i hear you, but i wonder what do you reckon to the freezing of the fuel duty cost of good or not irrelevant? there's a chap they're not only is he got his hands up his flicking his fingers. i like that assertiveness. let's go to inside. you got my attention. well i would have thought my name's ken, by the way, and i can sort it to talk about 5% vital. well, the said they were going to do in in 20 state of the fuel really quite right so you go i think it goes you don't think it goes far enough ahead and i suspect that most people would agree with you as well. one of the things that people are keen to talk about is pension. your thoughts on some of the announcements today because there were few because there were a few different ones touched on the different ones we touched on the matter there been matter on and there been criticised a giveaway criticised as being a giveaway to they are to the rich. well they are aren't they. and you know, i know the thinking behind it is that of the reasons has been that one of the reasons has been an exodus doctors and an exodus of doctors and consultants from nhs consultants from the nhs is because the change in the rules
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that meant their pension that meant that their pension allowance was penalised. so this is a bid to try and get them to stay on. but you know, it's not much good to you if you're struggling and you're struggling to pay into a pension and you're struggling with the costs of childcare , or if you're one of childcare, or if you're one of the returnees that doesn't want to do whatever that's called a retraining or retention return, because you probably are juggung because you probably are juggling your grandchildren , juggling your grandchildren, your elderly parents and a whole load of other things . so load of other things. so i think, you know, this is a budget that's got some tick boxes for some people, but it hasn't got an overall vision and the one thing we haven't heard very much of, although somebody mentioned it, is levelling up, which used to be the mantra of this government and of course we're in doncaster and the airport here will be no longer is no longer that's got your attention out of own, didn't it? so of get a microphone to so i kind of get a microphone to you. don't camera shy. you you. don't get camera shy. you all let's my friend .
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all right? let's get my friend. tell me briefly. you're airport levelling you don't think levelling up. you don't think they're about levelling they're serious about levelling up? believe so, up? no. no, i don't believe so, because the airport because obviously the airport shut , we've get city status, the shut, we've get city status, the airport shut the hs2 college airport shut and the hs2 college is also shutting as well, which affects me because i have some apprentices enough here, you see. and this is one of the things you hear about levelling up all the time. but if anyone actually took the levelling up seriously. there would no seriously. there would be no need up because you need to level up because you wouldn't have such a massive gap between because between north and south, because if taken seriously, if it was taken seriously, it just rosie says. just wouldn't exist. rosie says. what cigarettes why what about cigarettes? why have they from today? they gone up from 6:00 today? but booze is not going up till august. the whole kind of cigarettes booze, they are cigarettes and booze, they are like of kind of like a game of key kind of things, aren't when it things, aren't they, when it comes headlines of budgets, things, aren't they, when it comedid headlines of budgets, things, aren't they, when it come did you dlines of budgets, things, aren't they, when it comedid you make of budgets, things, aren't they, when it comedid you make to budgets, things, aren't they, when it comedid you make to them?ts, things, aren't they, when it come did you make to them? well what did you make to them? well do we feel them? don't we because we all drink and some of us yeah, i mean, us smoke and yeah, so i mean, i like any tax on goods. like any tax on any goods. i would have reduced tax on consumption . i think the point consumption. i think the point made about vat coming down on fuel was a really good point.
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that was a promise that was made by the conservative government. if we left the european union, it was the freedom that was given to us by leaving , i would given to us by leaving, i would also reduce the green taxes on fuel. you know why we for example, again, it comes to down this idea that they'd rather spend than cut taxes. why they capping the cost of home heating again, extending that to two and again, extending that to two and a half thousand pounds on per home. why don't they cut the vat on fuel? why didn't they cut the green taxes? let us decide how we spend our money. indeed and speaking of spending and money, there radical suggestion there was a radical suggestion or a question from this chap. they're going to get a microphone. can you tell us your your question i thought was quite your quite radical one. what's your name your your point name and what's your your point name's robert payne point is we have this absurd notion as being developed for decades now that taxation is in some way a good thing to have as if the government can spend our money far better than we can hold. you make that up so the people that are taking it from on one hand
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to get around and giving us little bits back again . so why little bits back again. so why should we pay a tax to paul? oh, we feel just don't deserve anyway . i'm we feel just don't deserve anyway. i'm just saying . in fact anyway. i'm just saying. in fact i'm fat. thank you for that point . this i'm fat. thank you for that point. this whole kind of notion of tax and do we trust you to spend it properly and why should we trust you? actually, yes well, i mean, this is the whole bafis well, i mean, this is the whole basis on which all democracy and our parliamentary process is , our parliamentary process is, andifs our parliamentary process is, and it's entirely up to individual people when they come to vote to work out which party they think is going to look after the nations finances. no, it's quite clear that we all need to have some communal part social fund, whether that's for the health service, whether it's for roads, whether it's for defence, whether it's for education and all the things that we buy and lodge all benefit from, whether it's individually for in the future . individually for in the future. but i think, you know, this is
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the whole point and this is to go back to your earlier point about budgets being politics, being politicking . you know, being politicking. you know, it's painting, putting up posters that we did more for working mums , we did more for working mums, we did more for veterans, we've done more for levelling up. it's all about spending . it's not about spending. it's not about trusting people to get on and do their own thing. no, no, no. but it's seems to answer the questions. it's it's, it's up to us, i think, as voters to challenge people and to challenge people and to challenge those who want our vote to say , okay, it's not vote to say, okay, it's not about spending always. it's about spending always. it's about what you're to give back and how you're going to spend it. as we just said , these it. as we just said, these little bits of money when it's divided out of these, what's on great pots actually end up being over the course of years and end up being fairly meaningless in victoria and lincoln's been in touch saying bit live shows. michelle and i have to say as a working person with no children, she certainly feels that the budget doesn't help her at all.
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i want a quick show hands before i want a quick show hands before i hit my next break. i you more pressure the tories after this budget or less for the tories show of hands. so budget or less for the tories show of hands . so who budget or less for the tories show of hands. so who is more into the tories after today's budget ? and into the tories after today's budget? and i'm sure anyone less into the tories and anyone don't actually know what on earth i'm doing and just wants to go to the break because they want to highlight. what about you guys is the so you sit there you go to the 20 minutes to go right but this isn't a tory government. this isn't a tory government. this isn't a tory government. now okay , government. now okay, interesting. for you after being i made three seamlessly into my next break. so here's what you guys are going to ponder at home and in the room today. is it a tory government, this budget you've seen today, do you sit there? the room is saying no. you told me at home was that tory government or not thought i'll see you into .
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yes i'm shouting very don't has sat alongside make sure philip spend habib i was asking you guys during break to ponder are you more pro tories less per tories i want this chap has. got an interesting point to make. what's your name and what's your point? you my name is sean point? you know, my name is sean o'donnell and i think the biggest problem face at the biggest problem we face at the moment is we're stuck in a two party we have party system. i we have the lowest of politician lowest standard of politician that got since the war, that we've got since the war, basically. wow . i was basically. wow. i was a proportional representation . proportional representation. sorry. is it time for proportional representation? it's time to boot these parties. whichever mechanism . i mean, i'm whichever mechanism. i mean, i'm a great believer in democracy, but when you look at what it's produced in parliament nowadays, you almost have to pinch yourself and question your own sensibilities on the subject. i think you're absolutely right.
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the first past the post two party system simply isn't . we've party system simply isn't. we've got a choice between a left leaning tory government and an even further left labour government led labour party and. both of them are going to both of them completely committed to large state, high taxation, large state, high taxation, large borrowing and spending. that's what are into immigration and massive immigration. they shout to stand up for national interests, much more interested on the self—gratification . get on the self—gratification. get on the self—gratification. get on the self—gratification. get on the international stage with their peer group than they get from the people who elected them and that is a real issue . for and that is a real issue. for representative. well, yes, absolutely . i representative. well, yes, absolutely. i mean, i would representative. well, yes, absolutely . i mean, i would say absolutely. i mean, i would say i'm in favour of proportional representation. i work for the liberal democrats for a long time, but i think people have now come round to realising that unless have fairer voting unless we have fairer voting system, we're going to go through this seesaw forever and a day and i completely agree with what the gentleman over
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there standard of there said about the standard of politics in this country has got. so low, mainly because of bofis got. so low, mainly because of boris johnson. but, you know, rishi sunak was part of that government as well . so there's government as well. so there's a side there's all sides britain comes at this always going to be. but, you know , actually, be. but, you know, actually, when you look at the other issue , not just pr, it's about devolution. and if you see what can be done , you know, whether can be done, you know, whether it's on the street or on the burnham, they've got more power , more voice, and they are much more accountable because in the face, can i get can i get my friends? you couldn't you just you shot. we don't know. can i get mike pence, this lady? we need to obviously the cost of living crisis. she's got a scarf on.she living crisis. she's got a scarf on. she was just putting on clubs to it anyway. clubs until i went to it anyway. why did you shout? no when joe said about devolution? i hate devolution. the low devolution. why? i think the low calibre have got calibre of people we have got and the language i'm hearing in the parties is dreadful. when you hear someone being called scum and terrible. yeah, this is
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not the calibre of people we want . and if you we in west want. and if you we in west yorkshire didn't want a mayor and we've got a mayor, why are we paying for all these politicians that are very low calibre? i'm fed up with it. but do you do you mean the local politicians? no in wales. oh where you put the microphone to your mouth because otherwise the good people at home are missing. what i don't like the law about what they're doing is not right. so let me you a very quick so let me ask you a very quick question then. so you're question then. so if you're saying low calibre saying there's loads low calibre people are you in people in politics, are you in favour of more money favour of paying more money then? so the mp is to get a high calibre. could, but calibre. i wish we could, but i don't think that would happen. we get stickers, box we get in stickers, box stickers, lady's stickers, i go to this lady's not having any of it it. i want to just bring some people from home. and if i may kind of says the budget was a damp squib in my opinion, but it is to be a little compassion for you. all of my life i thought that same was damp squid and i only got to that. only actually it was that. i only actually let it was
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damp probably about a year damp squib probably about a year or so. it is now a damp squid as well. we thought damp squid well. why we thought damp squid worked well anyway. ben worked quite well anyway. ben habib pm i say comes that . habib for pm i say comes that. you you can't see him, you can't see him. but he is blushing a bit . it's not a snap. it says bit. it's not a snap. it says this was a budget for silicon valley. there was nothing for the working man or working woman . but bob says the oncoming bike means that cutting taxes would create even greater problems. that's ben worried about a ripple effect that because the silicon valley banking the free childcare is a vote winner and the tories, a family aspiration oriented to people, says david. david likes it. oriented to people, says david. david likes it . david the people david likes it. david the people of done a laughing you a little bit i think they disagree with that sentiment i don't think they feel as positive about the tories perhaps you bennett tories perhaps as you bennett says have a fifties who says you have a fifties who retired ? a retired for one retired? a retired for one reason and one reason only. and
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thatis reason and one reason only. and that is because they don't want to anymore. is simple , to work anymore. it is simple, john says, michelle, you didn't listen to what gloria said earlier on. she was saying that she can't get back into work because there's ageism in the work place. i did listen , do you work place. i did listen, do you agree with that? is there work? is there ageism in the workplace? fine, fine. yeah. and he says no . can i put he says no. can i put microphones here? why do you not? i get my friends? this not? can i get my friends? this chap here, this one, the why do you think it is not as brief as we can? because look at time it flies wide. you think there's not ageism? i work in the insurance industry. yeah which experiences important experiences very important and long left . the long experience left. the industry who? trying to industry recently who? trying to coax people back work? yeah and it's like i say, it divides opinion because there is different people. some people say the ageism is because if you're young experience, you can't get onto the ladder. you're young experience, you can't get onto the ladder . the can't get onto the ladder. the flipside it is if you're flipside of it is if you're older , people think your older, people think that your past is old people's, it's not mine . tony says the problem with mine. tony says the problem with levelling michel what levelling up michel what you talking is all of the
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talking about is all of the levelling up comes from westminster. they don't really ask regions what that ask the regions what it is that they want and kay what of my view she says, the most view is? she says, the most disappointing thing me in disappointing thing for me in the was that there the budget today was that there was no at all was absolutely no mention at all of cutting foreign aid . well fly of cutting foreign aid. well fly that you've got the 10 seconds summary, 10 seconds. overall the budget of continue taxing the nafion budget of continue taxing the nation heavily turn a blind eye to the plight of the private sector and spend more money where politically the government slogans no detail slogan no detail . richard says starmer's detail. richard says starmer's response that the sticking plaster was used seven times. malcolm says i'm on michel as his budget being approved by gary lineker. yeah, you make on that i will say farewell thank you don't have that have . not in you don't have that have. not in anything. hello good evening
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welcome to your latest weather from the met office with me annie shuttleworth thursday is going to be a much milder day than today as we've got milder atlantic air pushing up, being dragged up behind this warm front which has been tracking across the country through the day , bringing many outbreaks of day, bringing many outbreaks of rain. so it's been a pretty wet day across the uk and through this evening we'll continue to see some quite heavy rain and snow is that rain falls into the cold air across scotland. so there are still warnings in force through this evening and into the early hours of thursday for the south will see a drier night , but for the south will see a drier night, but we'll see a brisk subsidy breeze and that will pick temperatures up through the night. so temperatures will increase by the we get to increase by the time we get to the early hours thursday. so the early hours of thursday. so tomorrow will be milder start tomorrow will be a milder start than morning . however, than this morning. however, across of wales , northwest across parts of wales, northwest england and southern scotland , england and southern scotland, there's still a rain warning for . in there could be some . in so there could be some traffic on the roads. then as we head through the afternoon.
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things tend become things will tend to become a little drier and little bit drier and temperatures again are still climbing up above average. so feeling mild than it will have done today . however, across done today. however, across parts northern ireland, parts of northern ireland, though, the skies will brighten . there's a risk of thundery showers through the afternoon and evening. and into thursday evening. generally though, overnight it'll be a drier and clearer night. but still, with that mild air, that stiff southerly breeze will continue to see temperatures above average overnight . so frost free for overnight. so frost free for much of the uk. some areas staying in double digits. well into the start of friday. so friday will be a bit of a mixed picture depending on where abouts you. but most southern areas could see the threat of thundery downpours as dry to start through many and eastern areas. but that risk of thundery showers does spread eastwards as we head through the afternoon and on saturday on saturday, but still rather mild and perhaps turning a bit cooler into start of next week .
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there's help for households. are you over state pension age? if your weekly income is below £182.60, or £278.70 if you live with a partner, you could be eligible for pension credit, even if you own your home or have savings. it's worth, on average, £3,500 a year and you could get help
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with heating bills and more, plus up to £900 in cost of living payments.
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it's wednesday night and this is for your spring budget special one from doncaster . please one from doncaster. please welcome your host, nigel sara. yesterday evening his father was an officer on this train. but today we're going to look for them from the crowd. the coroner obviously new ideas about getting on to them. and we'll finish off with a former player manager of doncaster rovers all aboutin manager of doncaster rovers all about in just a moment. but first, let's get the news with polly middlehurst .

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