sunday very good afternoon , you. lots very good afternoon, you. lots to come on the show for you this. afternoon, first and foremost, we're talking the nhs is a paid deal actually close for england and so it would seem scotland gmb union in scotland has agreed to deal with the scottish government at 6.5% over the next year . it looks like the next year. it looks like it's a slightly small deal if it's a slightly small deal if it's accepted in england , but

it's accepted in england, but we're going to get all the details for you this afternoon. fingers crossed . it doesn't mean fingers crossed. it doesn't mean all strike action is over , all strike action is over, course, because when it comes to the rails well, there go. if the rails well, there you go. if you're a travel, you'll know there's plenty to strike going on no resolution to that on today. no resolution to that in sight . so it would seem also in sight. so it would seem also we're going to be looking at budget reaction you the big budget reaction you the big budget yesterday but now of course the labour party is taking it apart piece by piece they're not very happy about it is it just a budget for the rich as party saying with as party is saying with excitement all of that for you mind you, if you are in the government. you've something government. you've got something to actually a to worry about and actually a tick account. do you use tick tock account. do you use it? tick tock account. do you use it.7 you worried the it.7 are you worried about the chinese government able to chinese government being able to hack information? well, hack all your information? well, the isn't necessarily the government isn't necessarily worried , but they are worried about, but they are worried about, but they are worried about, but they are worried about their own official mobile devices. so they've banned government phones having a tick tock on them seriously or something but just overplaying that. just know what you think. gb views at uk. that. just know what you think. gb views at uk . all that still

gb views at uk. all that still to come. first though, here's all your headlines with bethany stephen you good afternoon it's 3:01 i'm bethany elsey with your top stories . the gb newsroom the top stories. the gb newsroom the institute for fiscal studies says the impact of the government's new childcare subsidy on the labour market is highly uncertain. it's after the announced children nine months would be entitled to 30 hours of free childcare a week the independent group also said the pensions lifetime allowance was unlikely to play a big in increasing the workforce but warned it would be exposed . the warned it would be exposed. the labour leader sir keir starmer has pledged to reverse pension plans, saying it only help the richest 1. the idea that £1,000,000,000 giveaway to the

richest 1% was necessary just just apart. the moment it's examined . just apart. the moment it's examined. but it just apart. the moment it's examined . but it is just apart. the moment it's examined. but it is about priorities . you know, the priorities. you know, the government has chosen not to prioritise those families that are really struggling. energy bills. yes, of course. the sum cap on it. but they're still double what they were just a few months ago. and you know, a lot of people are paying £2,000 more on their mortgage because of the mess the government have made. in some breaking news nhs staff and ambulance workers in scotland represented by the gmb union have accepted a pay offer from the scottish government . from the scottish government. the offer made to 160,000 staff equates an average of 6.5% increase. the royal college midwives and the royal college of nursing are still balloting. their members but have recommended they accept the deal recommended they accept the deal. the announcement comes reports that health unions england are close to resolving ongoing pay dispute with deal

possible as early as today is all facing major disruption the rail network as members of the rmt union walk out again in long running dispute over pay three in five services across the uk are cancelled and further strike action is planned for the 30th of march. on the 1st of april. rmt secretary mick lynch says the pay offer of a 5% rise for last year and a further 4% rise this year equates to a real terms pay cut . all of those terms pay cut. all of those paying , terms pay cut. all of those paying , such terms pay cut. all of those paying, such as terms pay cut. all of those paying , such as they are, which paying, such as they are, which are about to pay cuts, have got to be funded. changes to our members, working conditions. so it's a self—funded rise really, and that's very difficult for us because . the conditions they put because. the conditions they put on that deal are just not acceptable , our people. so we're acceptable, our people. so we're stuck in a deadlock really where the offer is underfunded . the the offer is underfunded. the conditions are not acceptable and we haven't got a way forward . as you've been hearing, the government imposed a ban on the

video app. tik tok on all government with immediate effect . cabinet minister oliver dowden told the commons it's a precautionary measure following the national cyber security centre's review of chinese owned app.the centre's review of chinese owned app. the states, canada and belgium have already introduced similar . mps belgium have already introduced similar. mps are to vote on rishi post—brexit trade deal for northern ireland next week . they northern ireland next week. they will be asked to approve a statutory instrument relating to the stolen brake section if the windsor framework on wednesday . windsor framework on wednesday. it'll be the first time the commons has able to vote on the prime minister's new deal, which was agreed with eu last month. the london stock exchange has rebounded , after suffering its rebounded, after suffering its worst losses since the start of the covid pandemic. yesterday, the covid pandemic. yesterday, the footsie 100 closed down more than 292 points. as worldwide banking stocks went into freefall, credit suisse will

borrow up to £45 billion from switzer loan central bank in an emergency loan. it's after shares in the firm dropped more than a quarter, leading uncertainty within the markets . uncertainty within the markets. tim men have been charged after a drive by shooting outside a church in london in january . 22 church in london in january. 22 year old tyrell lakra and 23 year old tyrell lakra and 23 year old tyrell lakra and 23 year old jordan valdez have been charged with six counts of wounding with . yesterday, 19 wounding with. yesterday, 19 year old al rico nelson martin was charged with possession a shotgun with intent to endanger life as well . six other charges life as well. six other charges for and two girls were injured in the incident with one of them still undergoing treatment in hospital . a 400 year old hotel hospital. a 400 year old hotel which was housing ukrainian refugees in west sussex , been refugees in west sussex, been engulfed by a major fire. the blaze broke out after midnight and neighbouring before

spreading to the roof of the angel inn . west sussex fire and angel inn. west sussex fire and rescue services described the incident as significant, with 14 fire engines , the scene of a 30 fire engines, the scene of a 30 people were evacuated . no people were evacuated. no casualties were reported . and casualties were reported. and the pentagon has released of the moment a russian jet almost collided with a us drone over black sea. earlier this week , black sea. earlier this week, the declassified video shows the russian plane , the unmanned russian plane, the unmanned drone and dumping fuel nearby which damaged a propeller. russia has denied accusations that its jet acted recklessly in the which happened on tuesday . the which happened on tuesday. europe to date on gb news now though it's back to .

though it's back to. stephen bethany . thank you. now let's bethany. thank you. now let's start with what could a major breakthrough in the dispute between the government and the nhs . nurses between the government and the nhs. nurses and ambulance workers in england have staged a number of strikes . as you'll number of strikes. as you'll know over recent months . but know over recent months. but there's now some hope that both sides are close to agreeing a new pay that could bring that strike action an end. it comes after a winter of industrial action , which has seen nurses, action, which has seen nurses, ambulance staff and physios all go on strike. so we're expecting some sort of announcement on that this afternoon . fingers that this afternoon. fingers crossed. in the last half hour, nhs staff represented by gmb scotland have accepted a pay offer from the scottish government. as you heard from bethany, the offer made to about 160,000 nhs staff, including midwives and paramedic x, works out at an average about 6.5% increase for the year. so it could be a significant move . it could be a significant move. it is for scotland. are we going to

get the same results for england. let's talk to our political reporter olivia, utley, who's outside the headquarters of unison and which represents of nhs workers. represents many of nhs workers. what's the we have olivia . what's the we have olivia. hello. stephen. yes, so we are expecting some sort of announcement in the next half hour or as far as we understand this afternoon, what we can expect see is an offer from the government , a 5% pay rise for government, a 5% pay rise for the 2023, 24 year and subsequent years. and this is the most interesting bit. a 6% pay rise for the 2223 year back dated now the government has maintained that it has been unable to reach negotiations about pay this year and that's where sticking point really was. but at this 11th hounit really was. but at this 11th hour, it seems that the government has shifted its position and decided to offer that pay to the nurses , workers that pay to the nurses, workers and other hospital staff who are part of this group of unions, who are all engaging in negotiations together. now, this

doesn't include doctors. it's important to say that. first off, the doctors are still in the third day of their strikes. and we're not expecting to see a resolution to that any time soon. and the other caveat is that there are 14 unions involved in this dispute. and although they are all at the moment negotiating get together as a sort of pack as it were it is possible that one or more of those unions decide to recommend the government's offer to its members . and of course, members members. and of course, members still have vote on whether or not to accept the deal that the government has put to them. but it does look like we getting pretty close to a breakthrough. it looks likely that those unions will recommend their members accept that 5% deal, 6% for this year and. so we could see an end to strikes in sight. it's interesting though, olivia, isn't it? this is as , you say, a isn't it? this is as, you say, a significant change in position for the government hidden under the radar because we tend to look to the years to and not the year that we've just had . what

year that we've just had. what could have triggered ? why would could have triggered? why would the government suddenly their position on on the 2020 223 financial year. position on on the 2020 223 financial year . well it seems financial year. well it seems that what they've managed to do is essentially they've been they've found a ladder to climb because what they will argue is that increasing wages, increasing wages for this year would cause an inflationary pay spiral. now, what saying is that actually inflation is due to halve over the next year. so a 5% pay rise, 6% or something around that figure, which is what offering shouldn't be so inflationary essentially. the government found some more government has found some more headroom because inflation is going down and they found clever way of offering a deal for this yeah way of offering a deal for this year. consolidated deal, way of offering a deal for this year. consolidated deal , they year. consolidated deal, they call it for the 2020 223 year. they're calling it a one off covid payment of 6. a pay award which is considered a one off. so it count towards that inflation repay spiral. but essentially, yes the government

has found itself a ladder to down and is using it because are desperate to see the back of these strikes have been crippling country for four crippling the country for four months now. it's going be months now. it's going to be interesting see what the interesting to see what the members of this. i mean, members make of this. i mean, certainly gmb scotland accepting that from the scottish that pay from the scottish government of 6.5. i mean what was what was the approval vote there? something like 59.7? i mean, it's hardly overwhelming . mean, it's hardly overwhelming. it's not overwhelming. but what have seen every time a new deal is put to members , the number of is put to members, the number of members actually voting to accept that deal, although it hasn't reached the 50% threshold yet, is getting higher. so what the unions may have calculated is that some of their workers are actually sick of going on strike. they've lost out on a lot of pay over last few months. so it may be those members are pretty keen accept a deal if the unions tell them that that deal is acceptable and of course it is acceptable and of course it is acceptable and of course it is a huge, huge position shift from the government. so it could well be that unions and their

members see this as a big win and are totally to prepared take it. but we mustn't jump the gun and we must. olivia thank you very much indeed. if you are watching and you work the watching and you work for the nhs in scotland. love to hear from you. did you vote to accept that deal? 6.5% from the scottish government . if you work scottish government. if you work for the nhs in england, what do you make of all of this? the sort of one off payment, if you like, which is basically 6% for the last year and then 5% moving forward . is that enough ? would forward. is that enough? would you vote for that if you had enough of vote of striking and voting might be as well . enough of vote of striking and voting might be as well. but do let us know at gb views at gb news dot uk. i'd to have your thoughts on that . well, it does thoughts on that. well, it does mean then that looks like the end could be in sight for strike action . some nhs staff at least action. some nhs staff at least it is a very different story on the railways and in schools train services across the country very badly hit today. members of the rmt are striking

. schools and universities affected with teachers and lecturers taking industrial action today. let's head over to jack carson, who's outside birmingham, new street station. i mean, yet another day of chaos, jack, for regular train travellers mean, what's been the attitude of people ? they're just attitude of people? they're just sort of getting on with now ? sort of getting on with now? well, i think, you know, it's coming up. we've had so many months of train strikes . lot of months of train strikes. lot of people here that i've been speaking to have just alternative arrangements for travel. know what to do, to travel. they know what to do, to how get to work when it is a strike. and so many of them using the bus, the tram networks, public networks, the other public pubuc networks, the other public public networks around public transport networks around this could have been this city, it could have been a lot worse today in particularly because the national express who run the bus companies here were on a complete and total walk out of all the bus routes. but after a revised pay offer put was put on the table earlier this, those buses are running. so people have been able to find alternative alternative arrangements . but 50% of the

arrangements. but 50% of the rail network is down today. only 50% of trains running for local services . it's 50% of trains running for local services. it's around one per hourin services. it's around one per hour in the mainstream main, main coastlines. also running as well. it's certainly not as much disruptions we've had in past few months with no trains at all. but we are getting still some disruption . i've been some disruption. i've been speaking to people here on the ground and this is what they've had to on their thoughts about the strikes it's affecting hard working people. people want money people want money to live in times are hard cost of living petrol, food, energy . the petrol, food, energy. the deserve money like everybody else wants a decent wage to survive very inconvenient for me you've got the train but i absolutely understand what fight for what they believe . it's just for what they believe. it's just an inconvenience to the whole pubuc an inconvenience to the whole public it but i don't think the trains have been any good ever since ever privatised i don't think i've seen anything by privatising whatsoever we've

we're paying through the nose of the service and it's next to useless. you see, it's interesting. jack is it whatever side of the fence those people sit on in regard to the they're getting pretty disillusioned and with the whole rail service which is not good news moving forward . no because it really forward. no because it really once these strikes are over , once these strikes are over, there's got to be a level of trust between the public and, of course, the train operating that the train operating company still earn money in order to in order to improve the railway services and of course, pay those workers that extra money. we know between the rail delivery group, the rmt, when it comes to network rail that a deal looks close they've put that 9% offer to their members . that 9% offer to their members. that ballot ends on monday. there are questions over the other offer between the train operating companies and the rmt after they offered the same 13% to some of the lower paid people within those train operating companies , 9% most of them companies, 9% for most of them rail delivery groups saying why that you know deal also put to

the members as well but mick lynch saying that that offer was rubbish and that when you look at the fact that over the last three years there's been no pay increases. the retail price index have actually 22% over three years and so 9, 13% is still a real time cut. so network rail, we have a deal coming through and that industrial action suspended . but industrial action suspended. but industrial action suspended. but in terms of the dispute between the train operating companies , the train operating companies, still looks like there's a long way to go. okay, jack , very much way to go. okay, jack, very much indeed. love to hear thoughts on that. i mean , we've been asking that. i mean, we've been asking for months now, if you any sympathy and you know, it has to be said at the beginning of this , know, support for the , you know, the support for the strikers and the rail strikers was high. it was certainly the majority. i wonder if that has changed over the last few months . gb views. gb news. .uk real pay . gb views. gb news. .uk real pay cut, says mick lynch. even the best offers that are on the table . do we all just have to table. do we all just have to deal with that? is anyone

getting an inflation busting pay rise? well, one or two of the strikers are would seem, but not many . so i wonder if we just many. so i wonder if we just need to get on it. easy for us to say for now on strike. let us know what you think now. of course all this ties in with the budget. of course, the dust is settling on the budget. yesterday, the shadow chancellor has been unpicking it in the house of afternoon, the house of commons afternoon, the chancellor jeremy house of commons afternoon, the chancellorjeremy hunt has chancellor jeremy hunt has defended his pensions as he aims to incent tveyes people to turn away from early retirement the shadow chancellor accused the government of widening cost of living chasm and delivering for the wrong people . families are the wrong people. families are facing the bigger hit to living standards since records began . standards since records began. the only surprise the budget was a huge to the richest % of a huge to the richest% of pension savers yet again working people and businesses the key to

all economic have been put at the bottom of the pile . the the bottom of the pile. the question people will be asking themselves are the 13 years of conservative government are these amid a? are my family better off ? are our schools or better off? are our schools or hospitals or transport system working better than when the conservatives came to office 13 years ago? frankly is anything in britain working better today than it did when the conservatives came to office? and the answer those questions is a resounding no . so rachel is a resounding no. so rachel reeves, that criticising hunt for putting, as she put it, working people at the bottom of the pile . but how do businesses the pile. but how do businesses particularly small businesses feel all of this. let's talk to katie hopkins , not about one katie hopkins, not about one another. well the owner of the chair hedge says katie's really good to see you this afternoon. what do make of all of this as a small business owner, what

impact is this budget going to have on you, say specifically ? have on you, say specifically? for me, it looking at childcare the childcare on of policy that they put forward and the point it is they should be able enable my experience staff to be able to come back to work. but the reality is that they can't because there isn't places available i a member of staff who is can't actually come back to work she can her son is eligible for 30 hours and she actually unable to because there is a shortage of places for her to be able to place son and i find it i mean all industry is finding incredibly difficult at the moment, not to mention other industries . the moment, not to mention other industries. i mean, it's a tncky industries. i mean, it's a tricky one, though, isn't it? because these the incentives is the money's there from the chancellor to sort of allow this to work, but to say if you haven't got the places, that's another issue . but also it's an another issue. but also it's an issue that can't be solved . no,

issue that can't be solved. no, it isn't. and the thing is, he's put something in place that is going to be coming to fruition april next year. we need it now. we need the actual available now for my experience team to actually come back . we're in actually come back. we're in desperate need in our industry to have experienced staff . i'm to have experienced staff. i'm very lucky here we train within it's we have a fabulous training programme and i invest in talent but obviously we have a certain clientele that likes to have that experience within the salon and those those members of staff unable to come back .because of obviously not having enough availability for in this specific area how much do those staff want come back because although you know they'll get they'll get you know, some eligible free childcare , it is eligible free childcare, it is also ultimately going to cost them a lot of money at some point. you know, do they do say, well, you know, it's hardly worth the money to come back , worth the money to come back, you know, and that's why we offer competitive commission

system . we offer i will offer system. we offer i will offer a c just given all of my team a pay c just given all of my team a pay rise . i c just given all of my team a pay rise. i mean ask c just given all of my team a pay rise . i mean ask any c just given all of my team a pay rise. i mean ask any mum at home with some children, young children definitely going to work and, having a nice coffee and enjoying their work. i mean it's making sure that you actually offer a really great working environment, which i think we do here and you know, a really clientele. we have a fabulous grade two listed building here, 36 positions. we have beauty , we have 25 staff have beauty, we have 25 staff andifs have beauty, we have 25 staff and it's a great working environment, if i do say so myself . but it environment, if i do say so myself. but it is an you environment, if i do say so myself . but it is an you know, myself. but it is an you know, it needs to work everyone and but then we need to have the facilitation, we need to have places available for the children to actually go to. i mean what, what is on the positive side of this seems that your business is thriving so you may be able to sort of manage way through this. you must i mean, within within your local

community, you must also with other businesses who aren't doing as well and who and one would presume that this could be the difference between make or break. i mean, it's incredibly challenging environment at the moment, especially on the high street in my area in canterbury, the council , very lovely have the council, very lovely have put a colourful asking prices. so again you know for people to be to come into town it's been you know making it incredibly difficult but yeah again other colleagues and business owners in canterbury it's incredibly challenging any help would be you know fabulous for to actually have you know experienced staff coming back work katie really good to talk to you this . afternoon thanks to you this. afternoon thanks very much indeed . thank you. very much indeed. thank you. your thoughts on that if you would this afternoon did the chancellor really enough or is he just sort of line the pockets people who've got plenty of money anyway on the sort of proviso of well work a bit longer and you can say more your pension there enough

pension is there enough childcare? there enough to childcare? is there enough to get those mums back into workplace and back into businesses like kate is. there's no you think. meanwhile we're staying on the cheery news are we on the verge of another global banking crisis ? we'll global banking crisis? we'll tell you more in a minute

is 327 now stop markets have rebounded in banking stocks after credit suisse said it would borrow up to £45 billion from the swiss central bank. though that all comes following a collapse in its share price , a collapse in its share price, which sent stock markets tumbling yesterday . less than a tumbling yesterday. less than a week after the silicon valley bank collapsed prompting fears of another global banking crisis. but is the good news. the footsie 100 has since gained 1.4% after the agreement restored comfort in the banking sector . credit suisse had sought sector. credit suisse had sought help after revealing it had

found material weakness in its financial reporting . quite well financial reporting. quite well that means other know. that's why talked to people like julian jessop, an independent economist . good to see you, julian. this afternoon . look, i mean, they've afternoon. look, i mean, they've taken action. people are getting confidence . but should we should confidence. but should we should we now be concerned ? the banking we now be concerned? the banking sector in 2023 ? well i think we sector in 2023? well i think we should. it is quite tempting to dismiss the events of the last weeks as a series of sort of isolate incidents. so, for example , silicon valley bank in, example, silicon valley bank in, the us was a niche bank catering a particular market that made some pretty risky and ultimately bets on the government bond market. credit suisse has been in trouble for many years. it's a very badly run bank that can now probably survive with better management and a big injection of cash. if you take these cases, one by one, i think we probably would avoid a global financial crisis . but i would

financial crisis. but i would still be worried for two reasons. first of all, it doesn't take a lot to these crises. i mean, all that's happenedis crises. i mean, all that's happened is that interest rates returned to something more like normal levels after a long penod normal levels after a long period where they've been extreme, low and in the uk, for example, interest only, still only 4. that's not a nobody very, very painful level. and the second problem is that the difficult here might go well beyond the financial. there's plenty of parts of , what you plenty of parts of, what you might call the real economy , you might call the real economy, you know, housing market know, like the housing market and small businesses that and like small businesses that haven't to higher interest haven't yet to higher interest rates like. all right. with rates like. all right. so with that in mind, what do we need to brace for? i mean, what do banks need to do ? as you say, that need to do? as you say, that doesn't seem to be the huge things that are triggering this. so what then? can banks do to improve their resilience ? well, improve their resilience? well, i think the banks will probably be far . i i think the banks will probably be far. i mean, they tend to, you know, fairly well regulated. they have lots of capital. they have lots of liquidity, actually. many of them have

benefit the last few days because what people have done is they've taken money out . they've taken their money out. smaller banks that might be riskier put them into riskier and put them into the bigger banks. been bigger banks. there's been a bank run of sport banks, the bank run of sport banks, but the opposite i think of one. so i think, you know, bigger banks don't necessarily have to need to . but the problem is to do more. but the problem is that their behaviour in sort of being more cautious in future might make harder for households and, businesses to borrow money. so not only are interest rates going to be higher, so the money is more expensive, but it's going to be harder to access credit because banks are going to be a lot more cautious. i mean, from a public perspective from those of us who aren't economists and don't necessarily understand all of this , are understand all of this, are there any comparisons with we saw in 2008, two perhaps what we're a little bit of now ? yes, we're a little bit of now? yes, i think there's a fear that there's a negative comparison, which is that these crises often start small in unexpected areas

and then blow up into something much bigger. so. so the crisis in 2008 was triggered by in the us subprime market we said rippled out across the entire world. the recent crisis and you could look example at problems in the tech in the us or the bad management of the major swiss. so sort of small problems turning out to large. i think the positive point is that we do seem to have learnt a lot of lessons from from 2008. in the senate is the regulators a bit on board you know making sure the banks well capitalised that they have plenty liquidity. so as i said , think the big banks as i said, think the big banks just in a bit break the british banks will get through this. okay but the underlying here is that interest rates are returning towards more normal levels. we have got addicted over the last few years to very low interest rates and lots of cheap money. we have to wean ourselves off that. so it's going to be a painful period if you turkey makes see you like. cold turkey makes see my metaphor with chickens coming home yeah i. i mean,

home to roost. yeah i. i mean, you mentioned at the beginning that, i mean, this isn't just about banking sector as about the banking sector as things the housing sector things out, the housing sector as enough. and that is problem is interest rates within is these interest rates within the housing sector. so traditionally they're not normal levels but it's pretty hard for us to swallow as consumers is, isn't it? that's the problem. and people have paying relatively low mortgage rates for many, many years been able to get fixes of know three or 2% or even less . but now rates are or even less. but now rates are back to more normal levels of, say, 4 to 5. but that's still a big increase in the monthly payments that people need to make. on top of that, you've got risk of a crash in house prices . you know, house prices at very high levels relative to incomes. now, that's okay . when the now, that's okay. when the interest rates , the mortgages interest rates, the mortgages are low , but that's no longer are low, but that's no longer the case. so i think a significant risk of a housing market crash. now, that's not a bad thing for the as a whole. if

you particularly if some people are finally able to afford a house, a new buyer's at least might find that their mortgage are actually lower because they're having to put less money upfront buy the house in the first place. but it will add to economic uncertainty. it could be construction be bad for the construction industry and something think industry and is something think that could damage consumer confidence more generally. yeah. no could. julian, really good to see you . afternoon. thanks very see you. afternoon. thanks very much indeed . it sort of sounds much indeed. it sort of sounds worrying, doesn't it ? even if worrying, doesn't it? even if it's not necessarily going be a bad thing. it simply the housing market, you won't want to go back into negative equity that that was the thing in the late nineties . early nineties, nineties. early nineties, actually. there was lot of actually. there was a lot of negative equity about wasn't a and that's something we don't want fall into anyway want to fall into but anyway don't be too julian seems to be sort of looking on the optimistic side of things a little bit, which is positive . little bit, which is positive. there's lots more still to come between now and 4:00, cyber expert is to get his view expert is going to get his view on whether or not tick tock should have been banned from government . and we're going to

government. and we're going to be live outside the 400 year old hotel housing ukrainian refugee ese that has been badly damaged by fire. first, though, let's get the latest news headlines with bethany . stephen thank you. with bethany. stephen thank you. good afternoon. it's 334. i'm bethany elsey with your top stories from the gb newsroom the institute for fiscal studies says the impact of the government's new childcare subsidy on the labour market is highly uncertain often. it's after the chancellor children over nine months would be entitled to 30 hours of free care a week . the independent care a week. the independent group also said scrapping the pensions lifetime allowance was unlikely to play a big part in increasing workforce, but warned it would expensive. the labour leader sir keir starmer has pledged to reverse the pension plans , saying it will only help plans, saying it will only help the richest 1. the idea that

£1,000,000,000 giveaway to the richest 1% was necessary just just apart. the moment it's examined . just apart. the moment it's examined. but it just apart. the moment it's examined . but it is just apart. the moment it's examined. but it is about priorities . you know, the priorities. you know, the government has chosen to prioritise those families are really struggling energy bills . really struggling energy bills. yes of course the some cap on it but they're still double what they were just a few months ago . and you know a lot of people are paying £2,000 more on their mortgage because of the mess the government have made. nhs staff , ambulance workers in scotland by the gmb union have accepted a pay by the gmb union have accepted a pay offer from the scottish government, made 160,000 staff. that equates to an average 6.5% increase. the royal college of midwives and the royal college of nursing is still balloting their members but have recommended they accept the deal recommended they accept the deal. it's amid reports that health unions in england are close to resolving their pay dispute . committees are facing

dispute. committees are facing another round of rail strikes today as members of the rmt union out in a long running dispute over pay, passengers are being warned to expect disruption as three in five services across the uk cancelled further strike action is planned for the 30th of march and the 1st of april . you're up to date 1st of april. you're up to date on online dab digital and tune in. this is gb news. now it's back to . back to. stephen now you will have heard about awful situation a hotel housing ukraine and refugees. there's a 400 a year old year old. easy for me to say . 400 a year old year old. easy for me to say. engulfed by fire in west sussex in the early of this morning. now it's thought

the fire broke out just after 1:00 this morning at the property on north street in midhurst before spreading to the roof of the angel in next door. it's obviously a devastating situation those people have been taken obviously in the middle of the night taken out. now, there were some reports of a couple of people being injured. bad enough, thankfully , to require enough, thankfully, to require any hospitalisation . so it's you any hospitalisation. so it's you know what? it's been a luckiest, luckiest gape, hasn't it? and it's all about now, of course, trying to find out what caused this, but also happens to those refugees who've had to now leave that hotel. let's talk to our national reporter, theo chikomba ba, who's there? what do we know at this stage, theo ? good at this stage, theo? good afternoon . well, what we know at afternoon. well, what we know at the moment is that people who were in this hotel been looked after by the local council. another volunteers who've been helping them throughout the day.

we understand they there was a fire here. the hotel around 1:00 in the morning, emergency services were called to the scene. and they've been here ever since. and at the moment, you may be able to see just over my left, there's a cloud of smoke. this the middle of the high street here in midhurst, where cause normally through here go to places like here to go to places like chichester it's been chichester and london, it's been completely off for the entire day . we've been told by those day. we've been told by those who are working here on the scene , particularly from the scene, particularly from the fire and rescue service, that they'll be here for the next few days, potentially as investigations continue, as and as well as they try to the fire down. i understand that it's still going on. we're still seeing smoke. and it has been like for pretty much most of the day. but those who are are safe and earlier this afternoon, i spoke to reuben . he was here at spoke to reuben. he was here at 1:00 in the morning just after the shift, and he saw the fire and helped those people who were inside as well . thanks very much

inside as well. thanks very much indeed. inside as well. thanks very much indeed . now the world health indeed. now the world health organisation has, you know, it's all a bit grim this afternoon. this, i hate to say. if you've got positive to talk about , do got positive to talk about, do get in touch. gb views at gb views. gb views at gb news dot uk. anyway the world health organisation has issued a pretty stark warning that the world is facing an increase in deadly infection aids. so how worried we be? we'll tell you more in a few minutes. but is good news. i'll tell what i want to do first. so actually before head to a break, i want to bring in the latest from yesterday's budget, of course it's all being discussed in parliament right now. let's head to westminster and, get some insight from our deputy political tom harwood holly, tom i mean, certainly rachel reeves , the shadow rachel reeves, the shadow chancellor, seems determined , chancellor, seems determined, say that this in effect has been a budget for the rich . yes, the

a budget for the rich. yes, the labour party have got a clear they want to take away from this budget and that is that the budget and that is that the budget represents a tax cut for dominantly for the 1. why they say that? well, it's all about this pension contribution cap that, of course, has been originally. you could contribute £1 million towards your pension before , punitive, extra taxes before, punitive, extra taxes were being added . now the were being added. now the government has scrapped that old system meaning there is no limit on the amount you can put into your pension before these punitive bite in. and the idea with that is of course people back into the workforce stopping so many people retire early, particularly people within the nhs really gp's doctors surgeons and the like who are retiring early, en masse the moment because it's actually punished save for them within the taxes item to carry on working the wanted to sort of sort out that

but they've done it in a way that goes much beyond nhs goes to of course working in any sector . the labour party say sector. the labour party say that that in effect is a tax cuts for 1. however, it be said that labour's own shadow health secretary wes streeting has on record in the past of promoting a similar change. so perhaps it could be said that the labour party has had multiple positions on this too. almost there. because i just want to bring you some breaking news in a statement from the government and the nhs staff council that we've just received a government spokesperson said the government and the nhs staff council, which bnngs and the nhs staff council, which brings together nhs employees and unions representing the agenda change workforce have completely negotiations and have reached a final offer. it includes the additional pay for 2020 223 and a pay settlement for 2324. both sides believe it represents a fair and reasonable

that acknowledges the dedication of staff, while acknowledging wider economic pressures currently , the uk and crucially currently, the uk and crucially those unions with mandates for industrial . the royal college of industrial. the royal college of nursing unison the gmb , the csp, nursing unison the gmb, the csp, unite and the bda will now consult their members to see whether strike action will continue. it will be paused while these ballots are ongoing. tom this is significant, isn't it ? this is significant. this it? this is significant. this a deal reached, of course, between the government and the representative groups for those unions, those will recommend to members that this deal be passed. and of course , that passed. and of course, that makes it overwhelmingly likely that it will be. of course, we don't know full details of this deal don't know full details of this deal. we just know that it means more money. how much more money is a question of course, the unions had been asking for a significant amount, more and crucially, looks like the crucially, it looks like the government has moved the pay government has moved on the pay offer for 2020 223. that's

backed pay. that is part of deal backed pay. that is part of deal. now, late last night we were getting hints that this was on the on the brink of being agreed . it did seem that today agreed. it did seem that today this moment would come and. yes. in the last few minutes, the government has announced that we are here, that this deal has been reached and frankly could been reached and frankly could be putting an end to the huge amounts of industrial action that we have seen right across the nhs in recent weeks , indeed the nhs in recent weeks, indeed months. this is a very moment. of course not over the line. yet these unions memberships have to back whatever has been agreed and there will be time in the coming days and no doubt where we find out. the actual detail of this deal, how much extra money has been given for last financial year and for this coming financial year to how much is that going to cost taxpayers the government has of

course been saying throughout this process that they do not want to do anything that may well stoke, inflame passion. they don't want to instigate what's called a wage price . does what's called a wage price. does the government truly believe what it's agreed now? will avoid that and are the unions happy with the level that has been agreed. there much to learn in the coming days and weeks and no doubt people across the across parliament but of course across the unions well will be scrutinising the precise terms and conditions that have been settled here. yeah, well, as you say, we wait for more details. tom, for now. thanks very much, indeed. so what it means is the strike action is off for now. whilst this goes out to the ballot of the membership. if you are part of that, if you're one of those nhs workers been on strike and it pretty much includes apart includes everyone apart from doctors were a different category . however, what would category. however, what would you accept, are you going to be taking recommendation that this

is the best deal you're going to get now as tom we don't know the precise detail , but we get now as tom we don't know the precise detail, but we think it's something like 6% for the last financial year up until april, up until next and then 5% moving on from that . are you moving on from that. are you going to vote yes for that ? you going to vote yes for that? you going to vote yes for that? you going to vote yes for that? you going to accept that's a lot less than what the nurses are asking for, but is it a good compromise? let us know if you're affected by that how you would vote or how you will vote when that ballot reaches you. gb views at gb news dot uk . now, as views at gb news dot uk. now, as i was saying before , in grim i was saying before, in grim news, the world health organisation has a stark warning . the world is facing an increase in deadly infections . increase in deadly infections. we'll tell you more about it shortly. this is . hello, it's shortly. this is. hello, it's me, jacob rees—mogg . tune in me, jacob rees—mogg. tune in tonight at 8:00 for state of the nafion tonight at 8:00 for state of the nation . i'll be here live in the nation. i'll be here live in the studio. noted not working from home with my distinguished panel home with my distinguished panel, including free speech warrior toby young. and don't forget , we'll be hearing from

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well, at 348, let's update you on the breaking news this afternoon. then, just in the last few moments, the government and the nhs council, now they represent nurses , ambulance represent nurses, ambulance staff and other nhs workers have finished and have reached an agreement. so it seem so further strikes by ambulance staff and other nhs workers to suspend it. unions will now recommend and acceptance of the new offer to nhs workers. now we don't know what that pay is going to be, but we think it's going to be in the region of about 5% moving

forward and actually backdated forward and actually backdated for the last year % now, that for the last year% now, that would quite how that works how it's given out does it classed as a bonus. however you look at it, the various for doing all of that in the way that they are but is that going to be enough the members going to accept that you would think if it's recommended the unions, then they probably would. but if you're affected by that, i'd love to hear your thoughts. gb views at gb news .uk . now views at gb news .uk. now staying with news, actually the new analysis of antibiotics being developed suggests there aren't enough in the pipeline those needed to target dangerous pathogens. the review from the world health organisation shows just 12 new antibiotics have entered the market in five years from 2017 to 2021. the says time is running out and without immediate action we risk returning to pre antibiotic era where common infections deadly.

let's talk to the chief executive officer of the association of independent multiple pharmacies, dr. layla hammond . really good to see you hammond. really good to see you this afternoon. why we reached this afternoon. why we reached this point where we was so about how antibiotics we currently have in the system really going to be. well, unfortunately , we to be. well, unfortunately, we know that practise will have become resistance to many of the common antibiotics that we currently have. and there is a need for new types antibiotics to come to the market and. that is not happening in terms like the pace of it is as as quickly as it should be. so the antibiotic resistance is a is a big issue at the moment facing healthcare system. so why are we not seeing more in the pipeline 7 not seeing more in the pipeline ? i mean, presumably they're just not that easy to dream up. well, it's not an easy process, as you say, but it's also it

requires budgets and also the pharmaceutical companies are working on antibiotic x, many of them are not working on the new parcel of antibiotics . and that parcel of antibiotics. and that could be said in of like, you know , it's something that is not know, it's something that is not very easy. also, governments need to put more budget into research and making sure that we come with new medicines against again , bacteria, which is the again, bacteria, which is the current, unfortunately many of them people have developed resistance to at it's nothing sort of at the end of the tunnel light at the end of the tunnel if like when it comes to the cove vaccines because the way they were developed i think it's nothing off the back of the covid vaccine that could actually prove be an interesting doorway developing new antibiotics . but this is antibiotics. but this is something that obviously requires a lot of research and research requires funding and

funding is required to come from governments to make sure this is process and move forward. one thing that we can do all as you know , as as citizens, is to know, as as citizens, is to ensure that we don't use antibodies or takes in cases where antibiotics are not necessary, for example, for cold and flu, you know, not using for conditions that. actually, antibiotics don't work against will help the situation . but as will help the situation. but as i said , there's budget required i said, there's budget required and also new ways of research are required to get products onto the market while it is it require a government spending on this. i mean these are we're talking about huge companies the pharmaceuticals and we know they spend hundreds billions of pounds on research and development. so i mean it's a huge investment for them . the huge investment for them. the other side is, of course, if they produce something that works well , then they can sell works well, then they can sell it to the world. a global market there. but doesn't that mean

that the funding for r&d should from there, but not from us? well, it's a very complicated process , terms of by coming with process, terms of by coming with new medicines is a public health issue affecting, you know, many countries in terms of the bacteria resistance. and so therefore it to be some support in terms of supporting companies with their research so that you know, at the end of it there's that we can all benefit . i guess that we can all benefit. i guess what you're saying in terms of the pharmaceutical companies having you know, budgets , so on. having you know, budgets, so on. but this is a public issue and we need to make sure that the research that's required around this is funded to the to get it going so that they can invest in it . okay. dr. hambrecht, really it. okay. dr. hambrecht, really good to you. thanks very much indeed. good to you. thanks very much indeed . now the chinese owned indeed. now the chinese owned social media app tik tok has been banned . all uk government been banned. all uk government phones after security concerns were raised over its data

gathering technology. oliver dowden in the house of commons, the act would be banned. all devices issued to government and civil servants following . a civil servants following. a review by the national cyber security centre . does this make security centre. does this make sense or not? let's talk to philip ingram, former senior military intelligence officer, cybersecurity expert, an expert . philip, really good to see you. is this a move or have we have we sort of let the put the cart before the horse ? i mean, cart before the horse? i mean, how does this actually work? it's a hugely sensible move. in fact, it should have happened a long time ago. the access that tik tok has potentially got onto everything that is on your device is phenomenal. you know it can track your movements , it it can track your movements, it can access your camera , it can can access your camera, it can access your microphone. it can access your microphone. it can access your microphone. it can access your contacts. just about everything that is on that device you've given. tick tock to do it . maybe a popular video to do it. maybe a popular video app ' to do it. maybe a popular video app , but it's to do it. maybe a popular video app, but it's what's going on in

the background and the current company behind it, bytedance , is company behind it, bytedance, is partially owned by the chinese state. it has got boards on it that sit there that are state boards on article of china's national intelligence law requires chinese based companies to comply with any requests that come in from the their national intelligence agencies. so is one of the biggest intelligence tools that exists. but of course , they say, the company says it information is not passed to the chinese state, we say, and we just don't believe that. well know, they said that, but they said that in 2020. but in december 2020, by done then admitted that several its beijing based employees did access the data of two us journalists that were going to tik tok and a small number of other users . they never defined other users. they never defined who they were. so you know, they're saying that and access

it. and then they admitted that they do access it. so that means that they've got access to that data. chinese requires data. the chinese law requires them to give it to the chinese services. should chinese intelligence services ask for it 7 intelligence services ask for it ? i'm of admittedly already doing that . so we shouldn't have doing that. so we shouldn't have it in the navy our devices. all right . well i mean government right. well i mean government use any our devices this applies to government devices not even the private device is of government ministers or or senior civil servants . so what senior civil servants. so what should we do as punters? what should we do as punters? what should we do ? well, i think need should we do? well, i think need to realise the level of digital exposure that they've got and you know, the average individual is going to be of no interest to chinese intelligence. however their contacts may be, their data may be their data be being stored for, something else. so if you get a, you know a young student who's playing on tik talk at the moment, but you know in ten years time they've got a job, a government agency or a company working to company is working to inter—government lot that inter—government. a lot of that data could be potentially used

to go back , blackmail people to go back, blackmail people into your work , working a little into your work, working a little bit closer to the chinese government or used as a bridge of getting bits of software into other devices that are being used. it's dangerous indeed. and people really need to understand their digital and most people don't . really good to talk to don't. really good to talk to you , as always. thanks very much you, as always. thanks very much indeed. you, as always. thanks very much indeed . it makes me glad i don't indeed. it makes me glad i don't have to talk. actually, thank for that. the breaking news this afternoon is of that a deal has been reached between the government and nhs staff working in england will hopefully get a few more details . and we've just few more details. and we've just heard from the health secretary steve barclay , but the steve barclay, but the government's made a formal offer to the nhs staff council that just come out of a meeting with them. i'm very pleased that they've agreed to recommend to their members it will be 45% pay rise. next year 2020 324. it also an additional lump sum in

terms of this year is additional to award through the pay review body, which on average 4.75. and what that will, for example, for a newly qualified nurse is over 1800. this on top of that plb award and, a pay rise of over £1,300. next and obviously that increases for more senior nurses increases for more senior nurses in higher grade . now of course in higher grade. now of course some of money for this year is a one off payment, which means it go long term into the salaries of those people . you've said of those people. you've said frequently that you wouldn't look at this year's pay. why didn't you do this earlier? well, we have listened to the concerns of the trade. we've had meaningful discussions them. we have both sides have engaged constructively. obviously the starting position from a number of the unions was much and so both sides worked together to reach settlement which is both affordable to the wider taxpayer and balances the very real

pressures. we recognise that workers have been on so this balance was required on both sides. that is what the talks explored and that's why i very much welcome that we've reached a settlement with the nhs staff and so that balances our commitment in government to get inflation down. look at the cost. what was affordable to the wider economy to ? taxpayers that wider economy to? taxpayers that also recognised the very real pressures that nhs staff had face through the pandemic, and particularly through the recent winter. so an important question, how much is it going to cost and how will it be? well, we've been that it will not come at the expense of impact on obviously how these things funded are a matter for the chancellor . and we discuss the chancellor. and we discuss that within government. but we've been present offer any new money he didn't in the budget very clear terms of the conditions of the discussions we had with the trade unions that this will not come patient this will not come from patient facing course we facing aspects. of course we will look at as a underspend as an administrative saving and

discuss these things with treasury in the usual way. discuss these things with treasury in the usual way . but treasury in the usual way. but the commitment is one that the trade unions have recognised is meaningful , reflects trade unions have recognised is meaningful, reflects very constructive engagement with them. it means there will be a lump sum additional for nhs staff. this recognising the pressures and a 5% settlement for next year. pressures and a 5% settlement for next year . the funding is an for next year. the funding is an important though there are hospital trusts. we're very concerned even if some of this has to come of existing budgets, it's going to mean more pain for patients . will we being clear patients. will we being clear that as part the discussions we had, this would not form areas , had, this would not form areas, the budget, the impact on patients . so those was what are patients. so those was what are the terms of the discussions that we had ? that was the nature that we had? that was the nature of , the negotiation. and that of, the negotiation. and that was part of the monday received from the prime minister and from the chancellor. there are many people though it will look at this say this dispute has been going on months. there was talk of a one off payment several weeks ago, months ago. fact, weeks ago, months ago. in fact, were you blocked from doing that

and by the treasury? and pursuing by the treasury? will we take decisions across government ? these things are government? these things are entered into collectively. of course. part of my job, the health and social care secretary is to advocate for the nhs within government in exactly the same that the education secretary will do so for teachers or the secretary or train drivers . my job teachers or the secretary or train drivers. my job is to make the case for the nhs within government . of course that is government. of course that is something that i have been doing over recent months . we make over recent months. we make these decisions collective leave. i'm very pleased we've reached a settlement which the nhs council will able to recommend to their members . it recommend to their members. it balances on a commitment to get inflation down to guard the interests of the taxpayer, but does so in a balanced way that also reflects the very pressures that the nhs has been under over recent years . being forced to recent years. being forced to the negotiating table , haven't the negotiating table, haven't you, by the strike action for those people who've had operations and treatment cancelled, postponed, potentially for months or years,

they're going to say should have done something sooner. well looming, significant movement in terms what the unions were terms what the trade unions were originally asking for. for example, one of the trade unions originally was suggesting a 19% settlement. so there's been movement on all sides removed. some time ago, they didn't well, not to the position that we are on today. so there's been further constructive engagement we've had intensive talks over many days. there's been movement on both sides and that reflects the balanced nature of , the the balanced nature of, the settlement we've reached at looking after the interests of taxpayers inflation down. but recognising the real pressures that the nhs has faced. finally i know you'll be pleased, of course, that you've seemed to have reached an agreement here, but junior doctors this doesn't include junior doctors , does it? include junior doctors, does it? no. my door is open. i look forward having discussions forward to having discussions with we entered with them. clearly we entered the talks with , the agenda for the talks with, the agenda for change, trade unions on the bafis change, trade unions on the basis of them suspending , their basis of them suspending, their strikes respecting engagement principles. i the leadership,

the unions have shown in those discussions passed a discussion of respect to the confidentiality throughout both sides have been willing to work in a very constructive way . and in a very constructive way. and ihope in a very constructive way. and i hope the junior doctors will take note that and reflect that in their approach over the coming weeks. i say to them is they need to suspend, strike action, is that right? yes, that's the principles which the other accepted. the other trade unions accepted. the rcn unites unison the gmb all respect to that. we've offered the same terms to the junior doctors that were accepted . doctors that were accepted. those of the trade unions . and those of the trade unions. and that's what i hope the junior doctors will respond to. but a request from them for a pay rise of 35% is not that's why we need to see from them the same sort of leadership that we've seen from the trade unions in the agenda for change control . from the trade unions in the agenda for change control. thank you very much . well, there you you very much. well, there you go. it is . 4:03 this afternoon. go. it is. 4:03 this afternoon. this is gb news news with you

watching us on tv, listening to is on the radio or you've got on in the on the app this is breaking news this afternoon that. a deal has been reached between excuse me, but we just lose that tone. a deal has been reached between those representing key nhs workers in england and the government. so the strikes are for now over the not over permanently because this has to be now put to the members. but with the recommendations we understand it from the unions that this should be accepted . so it's an be accepted. so it's an important development, isn't it? looks like 6% or thereabouts, but in a lump sum being made for last 12 months, 5% moving forward . and that includes, of forward. and that includes, of course , ambulance workers and course, ambulance workers and other nhs staff, but not doctors. it's a significant development. we've got full reaction and analysis coming up for you throughout the course of

the afternoon . but let's get a the afternoon. but let's get a full roundup of all the headunes full roundup of all the headlines for you right now with polly . stephen, thank you and polly. stephen, thank you and good afternoon . as you've been good afternoon. as you've been heanng good afternoon. as you've been hearing in that breaking news , hearing in that breaking news, the government has now agreed a pay the government has now agreed a pay offer with health unions representing nurses, ambulance staff and other nhs workers england. they're going to receive a consolidated pay increase now of 5. and an additional lump sum worth at least . six £1,655. health unions least. six £1,655. health unions have now suspended all plans and are recommending members accept the deal . an upcoming ballot as the deal. an upcoming ballot as steve was explaining. it is going to the members to vote upon and all this comes after health workers in scotland represented by the gmb union, accepted a six and a half pay offer from . the scottish offer from. the scottish government, the health secretary

, steve barclay, says the country can finally move forward . well, in other news today, the institute for studies says the impact of the government's new childcare on the labour market is highly uncertain. that's after the chancellor announced children over the age of nine months in eligible house sales could be entitled to 38 hours of free childcare a week . the free childcare a week. the independent group also scrapping the pensions lifetime allowance was unlikely to pay a big part in increasing the workforce . but in increasing the workforce. but warned it would be exposed unsafe. well in response , the unsafe. well in response, the labour leader, sir keir starmer, has pledged to reverse the pension plan, saying it'll only help the richest % the idea that help the richest% the idea that a pound giveaway to, the richest 1% was necessary just just falls the moment it's examined. but it is about priorities. you know, the government has chosen not to prioritise those families that are struggling. energy bills .

are struggling. energy bills. yes, of course. the sum cap it. but they're still double what they just a few months ago and you know a lot of people are paying you know a lot of people are paying to thousand pounds more on their mortgage because of the mess the government have made. well, as it looks like set of strikes may be called off today, commuters are facing major disruption on the rail network as members of the rmt union walk out again in their running dispute over pay . three and five dispute over pay. three and five services across the uk have been cancelled today. further strike action planned for the end of march on 30th and on the 1st of april. rmt secretary mick lynch says. april. rmt secretary mick lynch says . the pay offer of a 5% rise says. the pay offer of a 5% rise for last year and a further 4% this year equates to a real terms pay . all of those pay terms pay. all of those pay increases, such as they are , increases, such as they are, which all amount to pay cuts, have got to be funded by changes to our members working conditions. so it's a self funded pay rise really , and funded pay rise really, and that's very difficult for us

because the conditions they put in on that deal are just not acceptable to our people. so we're stuck in a deadlock really where the offer is underfunded . where the offer is underfunded. the conditions are not acceptable and we haven't got a way forward . well, let's take way forward. well, let's take straight now live to the headquarters of unison, where our reporter, olivia utley has an update. olivia . hello? yes, an update. olivia. hello? yes, i'm here at the headquarters of unison. a deal has been agreed andifs unison. a deal has been agreed and it's a big shift from where the government was just a couple of months ago . the government of months ago. the government was offering a 3.5% of months ago. the government was offering a 35% pay rise with no backdated for 2020 223. it's now offering a 5% pay rise with a 6% one off payment for this year. now i'm here with , this year. now i'm here with, the head of health at unison sarah gorton. sarah are you happy with the deal that's been agreed today? well, one very pleased about is that offer has finally been made . this was hard

finally been made. this was hard won by workers who, as you know , been on strike several over the course of a really, really difficult winter. so it's taken several months to get to the point where are able to take an offer back to members. and as you say, it's a combination of a consolidated one off lump sorry, a sum for 22, 23. and that lump sum ranges in value from 600 at the bottom of the pay scales, right up to 4000, with most people who are in registered occupation . getting over £2,000. occupation. getting over £2,000. so it is a credible offer. elected health workers in the unions that are in dispute have agreed to put it to members and will be recommending to accept . will be recommending to accept. so it's over to the health themselves to see whether want to pick this offer up or. themselves to see whether want to pick this offer up or . they to pick this offer up or. they want to, you know, continue the dispute and wait for the pay

review body to set all the element of the package that is for the 2023 24 pay. great. thank you. and just to just to clarify so you will be fully endorsing this to your members and all the other unions who are involved . this dispute doing the involved. this dispute doing the same. so there are six unions who are currently have mandates for strike action and have been in dispute. so unison the society of physiotherapy gmb , society of physiotherapy gmb, the british dietetic association , the royal college of nursing will all be pushing the offer with recommendation to accept unite will be putting it to their members on a neutral basis . and this is , you know, the . and this is, you know, the negotiators from the union side, we have been locked in robust negotiations. we have our utmost to make sure that this is a signifier an investment that is for pay . we would have liked to

for pay. we would have liked to have seen this in pay packets this time last year because might have stopped the exodus of people that we've seen from the health who are leaving to go to a better paid and stressful jobs elsewhere. but we are at a point now members have all the people i've spoken to who've been on strike want an offer to come forward. so this is you know, this day has come to light, but we are pleased that we finally got an offer to give members. do you feel like the moral of the story is essentially that striking? well, i think the moral of the story is that when government works with trade unions , we can actually deliver unions, we can actually deliver something that might make a difference the health service difference to the health service . you know, we want to see . so, you know, we want to see as the start of a process where government listens to government actually listens to trade unions and that we're the voice of health workers and wants to work with us constructively. and just finally, how do you feel about all of the that have been

delayed, the care that's been cancelled, the people health has been affected by this strikes. so as we've said during the course of the dispute , every course of the dispute, every single strike day , we have been single strike day, we have been straining every senior to ask the government , negotiate with the government, negotiate with us before another offer because everybody wants everybody in. the health service wants a service works more efficiently. and that investing in staff whether the investment that's been put the table today will be enough. been put the table today will be enough . the health workers enough. the health workers themselves will that say. but we've been waiting long time for something to consult members oven something to consult members over. and, you know at least we can we can go back to them and talk to them about this offer. thank you very much, sarah. very good.thank thank you very much, sarah. very good. thank you. thank you. olivia utley outside the reporters in london, thanks very much indeed . well, there you much indeed. well, there you have it. a significant breakthrough for health workers and that negotiate with the government a 5% pay rise from april offered to nhs staff in

england that includes it includes nurses and ambulance workers . we'll have more workers. we'll have more headunes workers. we'll have more headlines at half past. polly thank you. it's interesting losing a live interview that olivia adjusted saying well this is going to open the door for the government to enter. you know , negotiations to enter. you know, negotiations with all unions when they're fighting . and from that fighting. and from that perspective, at least for the benefit of their members . so benefit of their members. so that's worked. so it would seem with nhs staff in england also nhs staff in scotland who've their members have agreed to deal with the scottish government. so different stories then on the railways and in schools services across the country have been badly hit today at is on strike. schools and universities are also affected today with teachers and lecturers taking industrial

action . let's head to our west action. let's head to our west midlands reporter, jack carson, who's at birmingham new street station for us this afternoon . station for us this afternoon. jack, i mean, i guess commuters are just actually getting used to this now and having plan b ready to roll . well, that's ready to roll. well, that's right. these strikes have been going for on so long that many people know that when it's a strike day, they'll either swap the for a bus or a trauma. the train for a bus or a trauma. thatis the train for a bus or a trauma. that is the case here in birmingham city centre. and so disruption doesn't seem to have had the impact. certainly today , as much as it had has had in the months. of course , the past few months. of course, in comparison other in other in comparison to other in other days of industrial action, there's still quite a few services that are running from the stations across the country today. a lot of local lines today. a lot of the local lines here are running just about one train. and i was on some routes, too, as was as well for the for the west coast mainline. certainly there's a lot of there's a lot more trains and they usually on days of industrial action , commuters industrial action, commuters have been able to use the

have still been able to use the railways and around and of course those deals we're hearing now the deal struck with the nurses are still deals to be struck with the with the rmt and rail operating companies this of them still in dispute today they've been offered a 9% pay rise of course backdated 5% for 2022, 4% for this year and for the paid people within those companies has been offered a 13% pay companies has been offered a 13% pay rise when it comes to network their industrial action today. network their industrial action today . suspended after the rmt today. suspended after the rmt decided to put that 9% pay offer to their members ballot closes on monday and it's meant that the rail delivery group and their steve montgomery is questioning why the rmt is not put there offer from the train companies to their members to vote on as well . department for vote on as well. department for transport as well, saying that it's only right that the members get a democratic vote on this offer. but mick lynch saying that realistically offer is that realistically this offer is rubbish and that's why they've rejected he said that over the

three years that they have not had rise that's led to had a rise that's led to a retail price index inflation of 22% and actually a real time pay cut. so even with this a 9% or even 13% offer for some people, it actually they're not getting a pay it actually they're not getting a pay a it actually they're not getting a pay a pay it actually they're not getting a pay a pay increase in line with inflation. but what does this for commuters? how how are they feeling after, of course, these months of strike action? i've been catching up with some people on the streets of birmingham today. it's affecting hard people. people want money. people want money to live . times people want money to live. times are hard and cost of living, petrol, food, energy . they petrol, food, energy. they deserve money like everybody else wants a decent wage to survive . they're very survive. they're very inconvenient for me. we've got the train, but i absolutely understand. what? people who fight for what they believe in, it's just an inconvenience to the public, isn't it? but the whole public, isn't it? but i . trains been i don't. the trains have been any good since. ever any good ever since. ever privatised. don't think i've privatised. i don't think i've seen by seen anything improved by privatising it whatsoever. we

are paying through the nose for that service and it's next to useless so interesting that to hear around the lack of trust may be coming from a lot of the pubuc may be coming from a lot of the public within the rail network for those people wanting to use trains today lot of services only running up until 7 pm. but for now thanks very much indeed. let's rattle on should because there's loads to get through this afternoon the shadow chancellor has been unpicking jeremy hunt's budget in the house commons afternoon house of commons this afternoon . chancellor defended . the chancellor has defended his pensions giveaway bashing off criticism from rachel reeves that the government is delivering for the wrong people .labour delivering for the wrong people . labour say that pension tax aimed at effectively keeping doctors in work shouldn't given to everybody . we're joined by to everybody. we're joined by the conservative mp for blackpool south, scott benton . blackpool south, scott benton. scott, before we ask you about all this budget debacle and what the labour party is making of it all. can i just ask you about this nhs deal for england ? is

this nhs deal for england? is there a sense of relief, do you think? i there will be a sense of relief, not just among our brilliant, hardworking nhs staff, but among patients and indeed everybody . westminster as indeed everybody. westminster as well. clearly strikes when nobody's passing trusts patients across the country have lost out to some degree how the appointments council, operations council, etc. whilst these or at least strikes have taken place. so it be met with a huge sigh of i'm pleased the government's talks have come to fruition. clearly we have to wait for those trade unions, make a final decision. but this point, it looks very promising and i think it will be welcomed by people across the nation. it is promising and yet the one union representative we were talking to was saying, well perhaps this is a sign that the government is going to be prepared to listen union demands a little more because of course, there's still plenty strike action ongoing, including for doctors within nhs

and junior doctors as well. i mean , do you think this is an mean, do you think this is an indication that the government is going to have to bend and at least provide them with something equivalent to what they're providing nurses and ambulance staff ? well i think to ambulance staff? well i think to be fair to the government we have been engaged in negotiations not just with nhs workers but also those who work in in local areas, including on the railways as well for a number of months now. and fortunately deals have been difficult to , have been difficult to, have been finalised. so i'm so pleased this deal which affects and ambulance workers like it has now been completed and we've got that over the line and i'm sure those talks will also intensify with those working on the trains and in other sectors as well. but from the conservative politician's point of view, these strikes have affected the affected everyday lives. so i'm pleased that we're now gets into a point where of them may have been brought to an end. but also

the unions have to be realistic, frankly, in terms of what they have been looking for and at various points throughout strike action, some of demands from trade unions, i'm afraid haven't simply been really stick in terms of the pressures on exchequer the pressures on finances but looks like we're getting beyond some of those issues and hopefully the next few weeks will be fruitful in terms of ending further action. it's interesting . is it because it's interesting. is it because looking at the budget debate this afternoon, i mean, a lot of that actually focuses on the nhs as well, doesn't it? because the argument is being made that the pensions deal, you know, an unlimited amount that you can put into your pension, but on a yearly rising from 40 to 60000 that you can put in. the chancellor is saying, well, you know, that will help consultants senior doctors stay in the profession. they're going to be able to save tax free. and you can see the argument for that

leave. the labour party is saying well actually on you know that could have been target age rather than just benefiting those who've got that sort of to money put away . i think the money put away. i think the arguments from are pretty transparent and churlish, so it's only a few months ago labour politicians were arguing for the government to take this step to make sure that our hardworking doctors can stay in the profession longer , treating the profession longer, treating patients and don't penalised when they reach their in terms of losing money puts away in their pension pot. so these changes are . labour have calls changes are. labour have calls for them as well as conservative mp such myself. so to then turn a day after the budget to complain and so and so this is a long priority the government have taken i think is somewhat ridiculous . at the end of the ridiculous. at the end of the day it's private money which pays day tiredness. they've worked all their lives exactly the correct thing and puts in money away for pension pots and

whether it be gp's or indeed people who earn money in other parts of industry, i personally don't have any with then keeping more of their money within that pension . that's what the pension. that's what the chancellor has now guaranteed following the budget yesterday. and i think it's a positive forward and whilst on the surface a lot of people would would applaud to that, i mean it sort of makes common sense those that you keep you work hard you your your money. fair enough . your your money. fair enough. the is, of course , that the argument is, of course, that it applies to a very small proportion of the population that could even put £40,000 a yearin that could even put £40,000 a year in a pension, never upping that to 60,000. and it's going to cost the exchequer something like £1.1 billion in lost revenue . so the argument being revenue. so the argument being made is if you're going to spend £1.1 billion, why don't you spend it on those people who haven't got any money rather than those who are already doing pretty well? i appreciate that argument. clearly nhs and we're an a workforce perspective . the

an a workforce perspective. the imperative was making sure that those are working gp's can stay in that profession longer. patients helping to get those backlogs down. so that's why i think this was a positive step. and what i would say is a moralistic arguments about potential doing it just for gp's and not for people who work in other parts of the economy . a other parts of the economy. a similar amount of money. so i'm not sure you could have necessarily out an exception just for those staff. so i do support this a step forward. what i would say is we have to look on the tax funds further down, not just in terms of the pension allowance, but also terms of seeing hardworking servants such as nurses , police servants such as nurses, police officers, firefighters . except officers, firefighters. except you've been locked in to those higher tax bands. you've been locked in to those higher tax bands . a bit of higher tax bands. a bit of a concern from my point of view i'd like you to speak to people who have unfortunately , as who have unfortunately, as they've earned, more and more money trapped by those high tax

bands. if we want to , offer a bands. if we want to, offer a clear dividing line between ourselves as the tax cuts in party and the labour party at the next general election. i think it's inevitable. we're going to have to look at some of those issues around people earning 30, £40,000 being dragged into high tax bands. the only thing i would say at present is clearly the government has very tight fiscal constraints . you can't spend constraints. you can't spend £400 billion on schemes such furlough during the pandemic or indeed the huge amounts money we're spending at the moment to support families with . the cost support families with. the cost of living without then having difficult decisions about paying that back. it's too late to say so. jeremy hunt has fairly tight room for manoeuvre, but i think this priority in terms of gp cuts and the high pension allowance, a good step forward. well i'm sure our viewers and listeners have a view on that. scott benson , can i just ask you scott benson, can i just ask you because i can just see out your slightly what is your in neck of the woods? what's weather up

the woods? what's the weather up there at the minute? because it's been pretty here. it's been pretty dreadful here. well, funnily enough, i've just been knocking been out knocking on doors in blackpool actually last blackpool actually over the last hours, weather's not hours, so the weather's not perfect , but there's blackpool. perfect, but there's blackpool. i thought behind me. so flags are still off as we speak. so not bad at this stage, but i dare say it's that dry away . you dare say it's that dry away. you are in london then? it usually is blackpool. well, yes i know about feeling scott , really good about feeling scott, really good to see you. thank you very much indeed. to see you. thank you very much indeed . well are you convinced indeed. well are you convinced by those arguments the scot bent abouti by those arguments the scot bent about i mean, on a personal. yes. you can see what we beneficial if you've got that sort of money to put away. but it is costing the treasurer. therefore if they're going to money spend it money should they spend it somewhere else. let's talk to a former adviser to bank of england and to the treasury, dr. roger . roger, really good roger gable. roger, really good to see you . afternoon. i mean to see you. afternoon. i mean this has been widely this move is not the areas we need to spend money at the moment.

what's your take on it all? well, i think you're you're absolutely right, stephen. that billion pounds, that billion and a half pounds should definitely go somewhere else . it's more go somewhere else. it's more needed. it would not be to make it targeted . it benefits like 4% it targeted. it benefits like 4% of the population at most . it's of the population at most. it's just all the same thing this whole budget has. rishi just all the same thing this whole budget has . rishi riches just all the same thing this whole budget has. rishi riches , whole budget has. rishi riches, stingy, stingy. fingerprints over it. he's given us five ppi again for petrol. last he did that it didn't even the sides it was of no benefit whatsoever. the 160 quid on energy bills is a joke . all they need to do is a joke. all they need to do is i've been saying a long time is to electricity pricing from gas . yesterday the national grid reported that 7% of our electric city had to do with gas. it came

from renewables, solar, nuclear, etc. far, far cheaper . they etc. far, far cheaper. they could save the experts say every home 1500 pounds in an afternoon . so that's not much a giveaway ehhen . so that's not much a giveaway either. but do think i think the budget frankly should as they say , be sent to the second say, be sent to the second furthest planet . it's just furthest planet. it's just ridiculous. people have to look that up because i'm not going to say here, but it's the one next to neptune. but the point being that the corporate ocean tax stephen, just kills everything thatis stephen, just kills everything that is so ridiculous. these people . i the chances after that people. i the chances after that corporations tax. i think the chances of the tories being re—elected are about as good as mine is being made. principal dancer of the royal ballet . they dancer of the royal ballet. they haven't even so far to see that. we are the ones who are going to pay we are the ones who are going to pay that corporation tax, not

corporations in the middle. the worst cost of living crisis ever . they are going to raise prices on us some more and crush us further. so i just write the whole budget office announcing cuts. but you see what i find , cuts. but you see what i find, roger and i know you're an expert , and i'm really not in an expert, and i'm really not in an all this sort of thing, but i imagine most of our viewers and listeners are experts when it comes to these sort of things, either what i can't understand is why, would a government put together budget that you say , together a budget that you say, in effect no sense in effect makes no sense spending money in the wrong places benefiting, you know, the 4% and putting more pressures businesses which will in hit all of us in the pocket. why would a government at this stage in the economic crisis and saying they're desperate to go for growth why would they then come with this ? it's a really good with this? it's a really good question because i'm sure all of these very smart people very well . but when they get in a

well. but when they get in a group , we have a problem. group, we have a problem. i mean, i'm continually about the lack of good leadership in almost every in the world at the moment except . perhaps zelenskyy moment except. perhaps zelenskyy . it's very, very disappointing . they want to do the right sort of thing, but they're overly timid about it. of thing, but they're overly timid about it . they get the timid about it. they get the wrong idea. i don't know why they don't understand that. corporation tax is going to add to our burden as. i think it's compromise . it's like the compromise. it's like the committee that wrote shakespeare they say . well we've got to they say. well we've got to leave it there but as always, it's fascinating to talk you. thanks very much indeed. thoughts on that, please, if you would, this afternoon. gb views at gb news. don't uk. i mean, it's so complex , isn't it? but it's so complex, isn't it? but should we just apply a bit of common sense to all of this which in effect what roger advocates in all of this is an interesting fellow to listen to whether he's right or wrong. i don't know because i'm not an

expert. but i bet you've a view on it. so do in. meanwhile on it. so do get in. meanwhile are we on the verge of another banking crisis ? we'll find out. banking crisis? we'll find out. this is

gb news. it's 433. very good afternoon to you. here's a question. are on the verge of another global banking crisis . well, let's banking crisis. well, let's hope. anyway, we're going be looking at that between now and 5:00 first. so let's your latest news headlines with . polly . news headlines with. polly. stephen, thank you. the headunes stephen, thank you. the headlines this hour from the gb newsroom. and in breaking news, within the last half hour , the within the last half hour, the government has now agreed a pay offer with health unions representing nurses ambulance staff and other nhs workers in england. they're going to receive a consolidated pay

increase of 5% and an additional lump worth at least £1,655. health unions have now suspended all strikes and recommend that members accept the deal in upcoming ballot. and all that coming after health workers in scotland represented by the union accepted a six and a half % pay from the scottish government . well, the health government. well, the health secretary, steve barclay's , the secretary, steve barclay's, the country can finally forward. lupin signify movement in terms of what the trade unions were originally asking for. for example, one of the trade unions originally was suggesting 19% settlement. so there's further constructive engagement . we've constructive engagement. we've had intensive talks many days. there's been movements on both sides . and that reflects the sides. and that reflects the balanced nature of the settlement we've reached, looking after the interests of taxpayer payers getting inflation down. but recognising the real pressures that the nhs has faced . well, speaking to gb

has faced. well, speaking to gb news a short time ago, head of health at unison in london, sarah gordon said . they want sarah gordon said. they want this to be the start. the government and unions working together a difference . together to make a difference. well, i think the moral of the story that when government works with trade unions, we can actually deliver something that might make a difference , the might make a difference, the health so know we want health service. so know we want to see this as the start of a process where government actually listens to trade unions and accepts that we're the voice of health workers and wants to work with us constructively . now work with us constructively. now in these away from strikes the for institute fiscal studies says the impact of the government's new childcare subsidy on the labour market announced in yesterday's spring budget is uncertain. that's after the chancellor announced children over , nine months would children over, nine months would be entitled to 30 hours of free care a week. the independent group said scrapping the pensions lifetime allowance is unlikely to a big part in

increasing workforce, but warned it be expensive . those are your it be expensive. those are your latest news headlines. we're back at five. see then . back at five. see then. polly, thank you. well, let's get more than on that nhs pay deal to news this afternoon . deal to news this afternoon. let's head straight down to our political reporter , utley, who's political reporter, utley, who's been hanging outside of unison all afternoon , haven't you, all afternoon, haven't you, olivia? i mean, this is significant, isn't it? not just that a has been reached, but that a has been reached, but that the deal itself involves, in effect a significant pay rise for the financial year. that's just to an end . absolutely. it's just to an end. absolutely. it's a very big shift really that we've seen from the government over recent weeks . previously over recent weeks. previously the government was saying that it couldn't afford more than a

3.5% it couldn't afford more than a 35% pay increase . years 2023 35% pay increase. years 2023 onward and that it couldn't even reopen negotiations . the 2020 reopen negotiations. the 2020 223 year, the that's just gone. now government has offered these unions a 5% increase for 2023 on subsidy ten years. and it's offered a one off payment a backdated payment of 6% but £1,400 more for lower paid workers for the year that we've just had. so it's big, big shift there from the government. now i've spoken to union representatives , some union representatives, some union representative, most union are going to recommend this deal to their members. that members still have to vote on it. and if they vote not to push ahead with it, then we could. more strikes. one union, a unite has held out and is actually not going recommend the deal to its workers. but it's one of the smaller unions. sarah gorton, who to earlier , head of who i spoke to earlier, head of unison where here today is

unison who where here today is going accept it. and this is what she had to say . going accept it. and this is what she had to say. no clip yet. yes. so we've also got the sarah goshen was very positive about the deal, said that it was about the deal, said that it was a good deal. it been reached but she she pointed out that she felt that it could have been made a couple of over a year ago . so essentially, yes , is . so essentially, yes, is a really big breakthrough as as long as the voters agree it as is expected . but there is is expected. but there is a feeling that it could have been done a little earlier and avoided some of the chaos that we've seen the last couple of months. i mean , it's interesting months. i mean, it's interesting because i mean, you want to just stay on the positive because . stay on the positive because. it's positive for an awful lot people, as much as anything people, us as much as anything else. we need that treatment else. if we need that treatment , olivia. but on the other side of this. well, it doesn't do is tackle the issue with doctors with junior doctors. i mean all

thatis with junior doctors. i mean all that is just falls under a totally different remit, doesn't it ? but could this be totally different remit, doesn't it? but could this be a sort of stepping stone, if you like to resolving the issue right across nhs ? well you make a very nhs? well you make a very important point that the unions which were involved in this particular set of negotiated that under the all change they call it contracts and, they're involved in these. there are 16 different unions, but it does not the doctors. so there's junior doctors strikes that have been crippling hospitals in the past few . we can expect see more past few. we can expect see more of those. this is just ambulance workers, nurses , hospital staff workers, nurses, hospital staff . but yes, it is a big breakthrough is the beginning of a conversation . and of course, a conversation. and of course, we know that previous the relationship between steve barclay, the secretary and the union leaders , including and union leaders, including and especially pat cullen chief of the rcn, were pretty much at breaking point. i mean, they were on speaking terms. so the that this deal has been agreed to is very positive indeed and we hope will be the beginning of

a more conciliatory relation between the parties. that said , between the parties. that said, of course, there will be conservative backbenchers who will argue that, well, this seems to show that striking works the government has given in, you like to these union in, if you like to these union demands and that behaviour of perhaps this has been rewarded you argue. there's two ways of looking at it. but for patients in england today, it's very good news. certainly . news. yeah, it certainly. olivia, thanks very much indeed . well, we did hearjust a short time from the health secretary, steve barclay. well, the governments made a formal offer to the nhs stuff that i've just come out of a meeting them. i'm very pleased that agreed very pleased that they've agreed recommend to their members . it recommend to their members. it will be for a 5% pay rise next yean will be for a 5% pay rise next year, 2023, 24, but also an additional lump sum in terms of this year, which is additional to the award . the pay review to the award. the pay review body which was on average 4.75. and what that will mean, for example, a newly qualified nurse

is over 1800. this year. on top of that, poppy award and a pay of that, poppy award and a pay of over £1,300 next year. and obviously that increases for more senior nurses in higher grades . now, of course, some of grades. now, of course, some of that money for this year is a one off payment, which means it doesn't go long term into the of those people . you've said those people. you've said frequently that you wouldn't look at this year's pay. why didn't you do this earlier? well, we have listened to the concerns of the trade unions. we've meaningful discussions with them where both have with them where both sides have engaged constructively. obviously, the starting position from the member of the unions was much higher and so both sides have worked together to reach a settlement which is both to the wider taxpayer and balances the very real pressures. we recognise that nhs workers have been on the health secretary there. so it recognises the pressures we have economically at the moment but is enough to reward those people

working in the nhs. do you agree? if you work within the nhs, if you're an ambulance worker , if you're a nurse or a worker, if you're a nurse or a physio , therapist or a dietician physio, therapist or a dietician , all of your unions have in effect accepted this . but it's effect accepted this. but it's down to you to . vote now. how down to you to. vote now. how would you vote ? would you vote? gbviews@gbnews.uk let me know . gbviews@gbnews.uk let me know. now stock markets have read in banking stocks after credit suisse said it's going to borrow about £45 billion from the swiss central . now it comes following central. now it comes following a collapse in its share price, which sent stock markets tumbling yesterday . the real tumbling yesterday. the real concern here is that less than a week after , the silicon valley week after, the silicon valley bank collapse prompting fears of another global banking crisis. but since that borrowing of about 45 billion. the ftse 100 has gained 1.4. that agreement, restoring confidence in the banking sector. so it would seem credit suisse had sort help

after revealing it had found material in its financial reporting. well, let's talk to economist and senior research fellow at imperial college , fellow at imperial college, malcolm grimston malcolm , really malcolm grimston malcolm, really good to see you as always . what good to see you as always. what are we to make of this ? is this are we to make of this? is this just a bit of a glitch we've seen over the past week , or is seen over the past week, or is this the start of something more serious ? it's far to the former serious? it's far to the former than the latter. i think credit suisse has been difficulties really for two or three years now. it quite significant losses in both of the last two years and because the where we are with inflation the normal thing the bank would do if it needed money would be to sell gilts will be to sell government bonds but government bonds aren't very good value of the moment because they have a fixed of return. the fixed rate of interest . and of fixed rate of interest. and of course, at the moment that's quite a long behind quite a long way behind inflation. so they're not they don't look very attractive . don't look very attractive. they're a very good they're not getting a very good price place. this is

price, the market place. this is really very different from 2008, though. in 2008, the whole system was making ridiculously risky loans. there was a cancer that really through the hole, pretty much the whole banking . pretty much the whole banking. this is an issue looks far more like it's specific to credit suisse and indeed the major governments around the world, the major regulators don't sound desperately . this has to be put desperately. this has to be put right , but desperately. this has to be put right, but there's desperately. this has to be put right , but there's not the right, but there's not the suggestion that there's a massive earthquake coming , massive earthquake coming, tsunami coming like we saw in 2008. well, you know what, malcolm? that's the most news i've heard on the financial sector all afternoon. thank you very much indeed. being optimistic. good to talk to you. thanks very much. and talking of optimism, though, we have got this deal which has been agreed between the government , those between the government, those nhs workers , england, well, at nhs workers, england, well, at least the unions them. one off payment, which equates to about 6% for the last financial year.

5% moving forward . it now gets 5% moving forward. it now gets put to the members. those unions are recommending it to their apart from unite which staying neutral on that let's talk to nhs gp dr. roger rau who joins now. good to see you, raj . i now. good to see you, raj. i mean, i know doctors don't fall within remit of all of this, but do you what do you make of this deal and your your colleagues within the nhs who are going to be by this, do you think it's a winner? i i think it's very difficult to say. i think some of the sort feelings that might be coming out of this are well, you've kind of given this one off payment that's going to fall into this sort of year, but it wasn't offered earlier, you know, i'm i'm a little bit know, so i'm i'm a little bit i'm little bit dubious, kind i'm a little bit dubious, kind of feel maybe the members of feel like maybe the members might well, you on might feel. well, you could on this early have prevented some strike. striking and strike. so the striking and what's out it is what's come out of it is obviously in a constellation of appointments and patients obviously being affected. so i think yeah, this is a step in

the right . the conversation has the right. the conversation has happened.the the right. the conversation has happened. the strikes then paused. happened. the strikes then paused . don't know whether the paused. don't know whether the deal will be voted for by members. i'm not i'm not sure if that will be enough. but it's interesting that i mean, certainly the royal college of nursing, which has played hardball on this and was going in for a very big figure when all this kicked off . i mean, all this kicked off. i mean, they're backing this now that that's got to have an impact on their members hasn't it. yeah. i think you're right there be an impact and i think, you know recommendation and i think the reason we have to think about of the what's happening the economy right now know on what right now you know on what actually much can when actually how much can we it when it comes taxpayer and when it comes to taxpayer and when comes to budgeting. think comes to budgeting. so i think they will have be they will have to be some sensible that. sensible thoughts behind that. but just i still just wonder but i just i still just wonder if, you know, it's just a little late to this comment that might a negativity from a bit of negativity from members. again, i'm sure members. but again, i'm sure when the recommendations are put to them they'll be an to them they'll be you know an explanation as to why they feel they should those recommendations and i think that

may this may help to bring this conversations and negotiation together in a more positive . i together in a more positive. i do look i do think it's good the conversation has happened the strikes proposed as a nhs doctrine as , somebody who has doctrine as, somebody who has left and trained the left the nhs and trained the nhs. important that patient nhs. it's important that patient welfare staff welfare is put welfare and staff welfare is put first. and guess this has first. and i guess this has shown, you know, a positive in the right direction from that perspective. i know, i know it's a one to answer and but if is if you're going to strike successfully , it's got to be successfully, it's got to be done essentially with public backing and an nhs workers have have that that might fade away mightn't it, if people see it as a good deal on the table more than than the rest of us are getting. if it was then rejected , that then cause a bit of a lack of support . i think. , that then cause a bit of a lack of support. i think. you know, i think you're right. it would cause lack of scope. think we'd have to understand that there has been lack of support and you know, along the way from the government and the narrative

has been pushed out that actually agreed and then actually doctors agreed and then chased of and i think chased off of it. and i think easy i think actually from easy and i think actually from took like covid for the public took like covid for the public to recognise how difficult time to recognise how difficult time to actually was first off you know so i don't think it's a case of the backing being there anymore. i think it's a case of do we want to fix this slightly , you know, for the longer term, because if going to accept the offer, that's going to be more backlash strikes and backlash later, more strikes and more disruption. i think it's a case of and unions having case of member and unions having that chat for longevity because nobody wants this to happen . and nobody wants this to happen. and again and again, you know. no, absolutely. roger as always, it's good to see you . thanks it's good to see you. thanks very much . and i'm sure you've very much. and i'm sure you've got a view that. gb views gb news. still to come , we've got a news. still to come, we've got a very big question to answer why is life expected sea in decline in uk? we'll try to find out. this is

gb news. it's 451 now. oxfam has been criticised for cancelling the words mother and father . its words mother and father. its inclusive language guide says staff should avoid using the words say parent is more inclusive. the campaign sex matters, says that's ridiculous. let's talk to the director of advocacy. helen joyce . good advocacy. helen joyce. good afternoon to you, helen. well, what's wrong with calling people, parents? i there's nothing wrong calling people parents but men and. women have different biological roles and becoming parents. and sometimes talking about mother isn't. sometimes you're talking fathers. and when you're talking about one or the other, you might as well use the right word for it. words meant to for it. words aren't meant to specifically inclusive definitions by their nature to include the things that are being in the being included in the definition. the things definition. exclude the things that being excluded from the that are being excluded from the definition. so when you're talking maternal talking about, say, maternal mortality domestic mortality or mother's domestic

violence from fathers, you should use the right words. this is not a concern in the places. oxfam is doing a lot of its work. this is a you know, an incredibly dare i say is neo—colonialism to measure by an organisation that seems to me to have lost its way but isn't there an argument to say, well actually, parents can be quite useful in some circumstances , useful in some circumstances, discussions which perhaps people mentally at least excluding fathers. so that there is a role for parents isn't there, in this . yeah that's. not what they're saying. what they're saying is don't use words, women and men. they're saying words like ifab, which stein son stands for assigned female at birth. they're saying, don't talk about pregnant women. they're talking pregnant women. they're talking pregnant people don't talk about breastfeeding. women talk about breastfeeding. women talk about breastfeeding people. and the fact is that only women can give birth only women can breastfeed. only women get pregnant. when only women get pregnant. so when you do , you actually divert your you do, you actually divert your attention from the people that you're actually talking about,

which and you're which is women and you're talking who die in talking about who maybe die in childbirth or aren't properly looked after or on support or to care for their children, say by breastfeed. actually, it's breastfeed. so actually, it's distracting people from what they be thinking about. they need to be thinking about. they're trying to help families of sorts, parents of both of all sorts, parents of both sexes just using the wrong sexes by just using the wrong sort language. i hate say sort of language. i hate to say it. helen, we've got to leave it there. it's really time for time, but thank you. you've made your very succinctly sure your point very succinctly sure you've a view on that gb you've got a view on that gb views at news dot uk. in the views at gb news dot uk. in the meantime, need to very move meantime, we need to very move to longevity. talking to on longevity. i'm talking quickly . it seems the to on longevity. i'm talking quickly. it seems the uk is lagging when it comes to life expectancy . i don't know how expectancy. i don't know how long i've got left. the falls behind other country in behind every other country in the apart from united states the g7, apart from united states when it comes to length of life. let's talk to lucy , health and let's talk to lucy, health and social affairs editor at the sunday express. lucy need to talk very quickly with my old dropped dead the end of the dropped dead by the end of the afternoon. going on? well afternoon. what's going on? well in fact, it's not. it's been going on for 70 years or so. in fact we didn't even notice. i

talked earlier on to one of the researchers on study and he said, really, we've been seeing this slow decline. we didn't nofice this slow decline. we didn't notice over decades. so it's across political parties and across political parties and across many, many years and longevity , life expectancy and longevity, life expectancy and low life expectancy is associated very strongly associated very strongly associated with and inequality . associated with and inequality. so that's i just want to say then , is this about our life then, is this about our life expecting to see reducing or is it about it not grow as quickly as it is in parts of the world? in fact, it's about not growing as quickly. so in in the sort of 70 years ago we were about seventh amongst all rich countries and now we're really nearly near the bottom alongside all just just above the in our life expectancy hasn't grown in

line with other countries like norway, sweden and denmark and in fact the poorest fifth of people britain have less to live on than the poorest fifth people in eastern europe . so there is in eastern europe. so there is a stark comparison you can make . stark comparison you can make. and looking at, you know, how real have declined, you know that the people, the researchers are saying that could be one of the strongest linking between that and our life expectancy . so that and our life expectancy. so just very briefly i this is down to income is it in income and poor diet ? it's a complicated poor diet? it's a complicated mixture . had lots of health mixture. had lots of health service reforms which don't help matters. poor diet . yes obesity matters. poor diet. yes obesity is another thing . we have is another thing. we have problems now. we have an acute problems now. we have an acute problem now, don't we? which hasn't been reflected in that study . but it's not looking like study. but it's not looking like going to. we've got excess deaths higher than many other

countries and last year higher than some of the pandemic months . so it's a complicated mix, but really strongest sort of links that we can see is that poverty. and mental ill health. are strongly correlated with declining or stagnate longevity . and it's just a wake up call. yeah, yeah. i hate to say it, but our time is up. it's been really good to talk to you. thank you very much indeed. we've got more still to come on that nhs deal which has been agreed, has got to go to agreed, still has got to go to the will you? more in the members will you? more in just moment. is .

david very good afternoon to you. lots come in the next hour we're talking nhs deal. come in the next hour we're talking nhs deal . an agreement talking nhs deal. an agreement has been reached with those key

workers ambulance , staff, workers ambulance, staff, nurses, physiotherapy the british dietetic association , british dietetic association, all these key people who've been on strike. a deal has been reached. it's still going to vote it, but it is now going out to the membership. it's an important step forward . going to important step forward. going to hear from the unions and from the health secretary this hour. also we're going to look at the budget it's been up for debate in commons this afternoon in the commons this afternoon saying, basically for saying, well, it's basically for the , helping rich the rich, it's helping the rich out. people can afford to out. those people can afford to put into pension will put more into their pension will be off a result. no help be better off a result. no help for anybody . what do you think for anybody. what do you think gives the gbnews.uk and then this tick tock you use tick tock. well, the government has now said on its official mobile device , you can't have it any device, you can't have it any more . there's concern that the more. there's concern that the china this government can get hold information mined by tick tock. and so it could be effect dangerous a breach security. one expert we've talked to this afternoon says we should all get

rid of it again. what do you think? let me know on the email or you can tweet us at gb news. all that to come. but first, here's your news headlines from polly . polly. stephen, thank you and good evening to you. well, as stephen was just, the government has now agreed a pay offer with the health unions representing nurses, ambulance staff and other nhs workers in england. they'll receive a consult dated pay they'll receive a consult dated pay increase of 5% and an additional lump sum worth at least £1,655. healthy unions have now suspended all planned strike and are recommending their members accept deal in an upcoming ballot. their members accept deal in an upcoming ballot . and all that upcoming ballot. and all that coming after workers in scotland represent by the gmb union have

accepted a six and a half percent pay offer . the scottish percent pay offer. the scottish government. the secretary, steve barclay, says the country can finally move . looping movement finally move. looping movement in terms of what the trade unions were originally asking for. for example, one of the trade unions originally was suggesting a 19% settlement. so been further constructive . we've been further constructive. we've had intensive talks over many days. there's movements on both sides and that reflects the balanced nature of the settlement we've reached. looking after the interests of taxpayers getting inflation down. but recognising the real pressures that the nhs has faced . well, speaking to gb news a short time ago from central london, the head of health at unison sara gorton said they want to be sure this is the start the government and unions working to make a difference . working to make a difference. well i think the moral of the story is that when government works with trade unions we can actually deliver something that might make a difference to the

health service . so, you know, we health service. so, you know, we want to see this is the start of a process where government actually listens to trade unions and, accepts that we're the voice of health workers and wants to work with us. well, it nus away from the nhs pay and reacting to yesterday's budget, the institute for fiscal studies says the impact of the government's new childcare subsidy on the labour market is highly . subsidy on the labour market is highly. that's subsidy on the labour market is highly . that's after the highly. that's after the chancellor announced children over the age of nine months in eligible households would be entitled to 30 hours of free care every week . the independent care every week. the independent group also said. scrapping the pensions lifetime allowance was unlikely to play a big part in increased the workforce, but warned it would be expensive. the labour sir keir starmer has pledged to the pension plan, saying it will only help the richest 1. the idea that £1,000,000,000 giveaway to the richest 1% was necessary just

just apart. the moment it's examined. but it is about priorities . you know, the priorities. you know, the government has chosen to prioritise those families that are really struggling energy . are really struggling energy. yes, of course. the sum on it. but they're still double what they were just a few months ago. and know a lot of people are £2,000 more on their mortgage because of the mess that the government have made . well, as government have made. well, as one set of strikes has been called off today. commuters are facing major disruption now on the rail network. as members of the rail network. as members of the rmt walkout once again in long running dispute over pay three in five services across the uk are cancelled today and further strike action is planned for the 30th of march and the 1st of april. the rmt secretary, mick lynch, says the pay off of a 5% rise for last year and a further 4% this year equates to a real terms pay cut . all of a real terms pay cut. all of those pay , such as they are, those pay, such as they are, which all amounts to pay cuts

have got to be funded. changes to our members working conditions. so it's a self funded pay rise really, and that's very difficult for us because the conditions they put in on that deal are just not acceptable to our people. so we're stuck in a deadlock really where the offer is underfunded. the conditions are not acceptable and we haven't got a way forward. rick lynch now the government's imposed ban on the tik tok app on all government devices with immediate effect. cabinet minister oliver dowden told the commons. it's a precautionary measure following the national cyber security centre's review of the chinese owned company. the united , owned company. the united, canada and belgium have already introduced similar measures and positive vote on rishi sunak post—brexit trade deal northern ireland. next week they're going to be asked to approve a statutory instrument relating to the stormont brake section of the stormont brake section of the windsor framework wednesday. it's going to be the first time

the commons has been able to vote on the prime minister's new deal vote on the prime minister's new deal, which agreed with the eu last month. now take a look at this. the pentagon has released some video of the moment a russian fighter jet nearly collided with a us drone over the black sea. earlier on this week it's a declassified video and it shows the russian plane approaching unmanned drone and dumping fuel oil which damaged a propeller . russia has dumping fuel oil which damaged a propeller. russia has denied dumping fuel oil which damaged a propeller . russia has denied the propeller. russia has denied the accusations that its jets acted recklessly . the incident which recklessly. the incident which happened on tuesday with gb news at 530, see them . at 530, see them. polly, thank you . 5:07. so the polly, thank you. 5:07. so the big news this afternoon is that major breakthrough in the dispute between the government and the nhs in england. it's

been announced that further by ambulance staff and nhs workers have been suspend did and unions will recommend of a new pay offer . nhs will recommend of a new pay offer. nhs workers nurses and ambulance workers in england to have a number of strikes in recent months while the health secretary, steve barclay is now called junior doctors to follow the example of other health unions. if off their industrial action entered into talks on pay with the government . well let's with the government. well let's talk to olivia utley, who's outside unison headquarters central london for us. i mean, it's interesting. olivia isn't when we look at what has been achieved with this agreement and whether that can be carried forward as the health secretary wants to those people within the nhs who is still striking. wants to those people within the nhs who is still striking . yes, nhs who is still striking. yes, i mean, there's a question over whether this is going to be a beautiful new era of easy negotiations, an easy relationship between trade

unions and the government. but this certainly a big breakthrough on both sides, really only government side at some point at see barclay mentioned in an interview these were asking for a 19% pay rise while the pay rise that they've agreed is now 5. so that is quite big climb down. on the other hand, the government last late last year were offering a 3.5% late last year were offering a 35% pay raise and saying we open the negotiations , pay this open the negotiations, pay this yean open the negotiations, pay this year, the 20 to 23 year would be impossible . well, now they've impossible. well, now they've offered that 5% pay rise for next year and subsequent and agreed to a one off payment of a fixed pay rise for 20 to 23. so it looks like we're heading for a breakthrough. well, i spoke to sarah earlier. who's the head health at unison. here's she had to say . well, what i'm very to say. well, what i'm very pleased about that an offer has finally been made. this was hard work by health workers who, as you have been on strike several

times over the course of a really difficult winter. so taken several months to get to the point where we are able take an offer back to members . and as an offer back to members. and as you say, it's a combination of a consolidated one off sorry, a lump sum for, 22, 23 and that lump sum for, 22, 23 and that lump sum for, 22, 23 and that lump sum ranges in value from 600 at the bottom of the pay scales right up to 4000, with most people who are in registered occupations getting over £2,000. so it is a credible offer and elected workers in, the unions that are in dispute , the unions that are in dispute, have agreed today to put it, to members and will be recommending to. so it's over to the health workers themselves to see whether they want to pick this offer up or they want to, you know, continue the dispute and wait for the pay review body to set all the of the package that is for the 2023 four pay you.

great thank you and just to just to clarify so you will be fully endorsing this deal your members and all other unions who are involved in this dispute doing the same. there are six unions who are currently and have mandates for strike action and have been in disputes unison the chartered society of physiotherapy , gmb , the star physiotherapy, gmb, the star technical association , the royal technical association, the royal college of nursing will all be pushing the offer . a pushing the offer. a recommendation to accept unite will be putting it to their on a neutral basis and this is you know, that goes from the union side . we have been locked in side. we have been locked in very robust negotiations. we done our utmost to make that this is a significant investment thatis this is a significant investment that is available for pay . we that is available for pay. we would have liked to have seen this in pay packets this time last year because that might

have stopped the exodus of people that we've seen , the people that we've seen, the health service who are leaving to go to better paid and less stressful jobs elsewhere . but we stressful jobs elsewhere. but we are at a point now members have all the people i've spoken to been on strike once an offer to come forward. so this is you know this day has come light. but we are pleased that finally got an offer to give to. do you feel like the moral of the story is essentially that striking was . well, i think the moral of the is that when government works with trade unions , we can with trade unions, we can actually deliver something that might a difference to the health service . so, you know, we want service. so, you know, we want to see this the start of a process where government actually listens to trade unions and that we're the voice of health workers and wants to work with us, construct . and just with us, construct. and just finally, how do you feel about all of the operations that have been delayed, the care that's been delayed, the care that's been cancelled, the people whose health been affected by these strikes ? so as we've said during

strikes? so as we've said during the course of the dispute, i've single strike day. we have been straining every sinew to ask the government to negotiate with us and bring forward another offer because everybody wants everybody in the health service wants a service that works more efficiently and that means investing in staff , whether the investing in staff, whether the investment that's been put on table today will be enough . the table today will be enough. the health workers themselves will have say, but we've been waiting long time for something to . long time for something to. consult members over and you know, at least we can we can go back to them and talk to them about this offer . yes. that was about this offer. yes. that was that. about this offer. yes. that was that . that was sarah gorton of that. that was sarah gorton of unity and union that as you can see she's coming where she welcome you talking about a new of negotiations with the start of negotiations with the start of a new process of course the fly in the ointment for the

government is that there were 14 different unions who involved in this negotiation process and at least one of them that to unite which represents quite a small and a group nonetheless of nhs workers, has said that it wouldn't recommend this deal to its workers. so the government have can see the scale of the deal the government had on its hands the scale of the difficulty of trying to agree a deal with all of these 14 unions. well, we expect most of big ones to recommend that deal. but if a couple of unions hold out recommending that deal, but it possible the it is always possible that the members those are against it. members of those are against it. and this is all legal to go ahead. and this is all legal to go ahead . still, right now, it ahead. still, right now, it feels as , though, we all get to feels as, though, we all get to a breakthrough and see barclay fail say , well, the fail to say, well, the government's made a formal offer to the nhs staff council . i've to the nhs staff council. i've just come out of a meeting with them that they've them very pleased that they've agreed their members . it will agreed to their members. it will be 45% pay rise next year, 2023, 24, but also additional lump sum

in terms of this year, which is additional to the award through the pay review body which was on 4.75. and what that will mean, for example, for a newly qualified nurse is over 1000/800 this year on top of that pay albie award and a pay rise of over £1,300 next year. and obviously increases for more senior nurses in higher grades. now, of course, some of that for money year is a one off payment, which means doesn't go long term into the salaries of listen to the concerns of the trade unions. we've had meaningful discussions with them where both sides have engaged constructively. obviously the starting position from the member of the unions was much higher. and so both sides have worked together to reach a settlement, which is both affordable to the wider taxpayer

and balances the very real pressures. we recognise that nhs workers have been on. so it's just a noble deal for the economy, something to keep the nhs workers happy. what do you think ? i'd love to hear from you think? i'd love to hear from you this afternoon if you think if that applies to you, if you're one of those workers who is going to asked now in the going to be asked now in the ballot whether you support ballot as to whether you support this what are going this or not, what are you going to say? love to have your thoughts. gb views at news thoughts. gb views at gb news .uk. thanks to olivia as .uk. and our thanks to olivia as well. we're not going back to work because someone's decided to drill a right next to to drill a hole right next to it in which just in the pavement, which is just just. london for you, just. that's london for you, ladies if don't ladies and gents. if you don't live the capital, good for live in the capital, good for you. that's what i say. i don't ehhen you. that's what i say. i don't either. to be fair, i think it's pretty grim . there you go. i'm pretty grim. there you go. i'm in over the. i'd rather be up in blackpool now. let's keep talking money, should we? because the shadow chancellor rachel reeves, has criticised jeremy hunt's budget in the commons. this this afternoon. she said the government too late to the party when it comes to

childcare . the particularly childcare. the particularly helpful statement in some respects is it. she's also said the pensions giveaway is just a measure for the top 1. families are facing the biggest hit to living standards since records began.the living standards since records began. the only surprise in the budget was a huge handout to the richest 1% of pensions savers yet again working people and businesses. the key to all economic success have been put at the bottom of the pile . the at the bottom of the pile. the question people will be asking themselves after 13 years of conservative government are these.i conservative government are these. i mean , are my family these. i mean, are my family better off ? are our schools, our better off? are our schools, our hospitals . our transport system. hospitals. our transport system. working better? the when the conservatives came to office 13 years ago , frankly. is anything years ago, frankly. is anything in britain working better today than it did when the conservatives came to office?

and the answer to those questions is a resounding no. a resounding no. well, there you go . let's see what commentator go. let's see what commentator naomi campbell makes of it all. good to see you this afternoon , good to see you this afternoon, stephen. i mean, who do we believe on this? because on some fronts, it seems. well, if it encourages people to stay in work, if it if it , you know, work, if it if it, you know, allows people to save more for their pensions, takes pressure off the state later on in life. that's got to be a good thing, hasn't it? but it is costing money to support these people who were amongst the better off in society. yeah, that's very true. i mean, that there was a survey today, stephen, from a uk champion for over 50 years called 55 redefine that they did just a quick straw poll of their members which found that 63% of those would return to work if there were tax reforms . so that there were tax reforms. so that would be a really beneficial thing. clearly and i think that we're all very excited . we're all very excited. yesterday when we saw that headune yesterday when we saw that headline figure. the lifetime

allowance, a million out the window. save as much as you want to save and the 40,000 to the 60,000. but now there is that concern. is there going to be a gold rush on pensions? is that is everybody going to put a load of money into pensions now and then in 2024, when labour changes its when it potentially changes its when it potentially changes to labour, are we going to be in a situation where it all reverses? so it's sort of let us do turnips. it takes a little bit, but what would be the what would be the concern about a gold rush on pensions in that if people have a lot more money in their pension pot, is that it would have a negative effect on the economy? i think i think the problem with that is it's delaying those people getting back into the workforce. and point and that's the very point of this this huge amount this. we've got this huge amount of in active workers who could work and it does come back actually to the childcare issue actually to the childcare issue actually room. actually out in the green room. i've got my daughter there today. she's six. it was the teacher today teacher strike today and actually school was in in actually her school was in in session. so to speak. but there

was no rapport. there is no wraparound care. so i think we do rely very, very heavily on grandpa parents in that particular piece , and we can particular piece, and we can maybe come onto that in a minute. but i think it is just delaying. and actually that might be the issue that we're not taking advantage. we're not pushing workers back as pushing those workers back as quickly as there is an quickly as we could. there is an argument labour's saying, and there's a the name of them there's also a the name of them escapes me just at the moment, but there is also one of these sort of think tanks saying actually they this policy actually they think this policy would people would actually encourage people to retire early. yes, the resolution foundation. yes. and that yeah, that is a slight that is yeah, that is a slight concern because, of course, with that raised from 40000 to 60000, there could be that impact. what i did think was particularly good, though, and exciting was this return of ship and the people i've been speaking to have been pushing this for a while now. the apprenticeship programmes are very, very targeted to those in their late teens , twenties. and actually teens, twenties. and actually what we need to be doing is upskilling that huge tranche of the population. you know, we

have an ageing population and a shrinking workforce, let's shrinking workforce, so let's upskill workers . yeah, upskill those workers. yeah, it's an interesting idea. naomi sadly, we've got to leave it there, but really good talk there, but really good to talk to your. thanks very much indeed. you to indeed. do you want to be upskilled age? be upskilled at a later age? be interesting know if that's interesting to know if that's going to be the right thing for you to for you to do in that point later on in life. coming up sticking lots of up with sticking with lots of financial because i'll be financial stuff because i'll be on verge of another global on the verge of another global banking a big banking crisis. it's a big question . this is

gb news. well, of course, the breaking news this afternoon is that a deal between the nhs in england , all the unions involved with the nhs in england and the government over those striking workers, ambulance workers , the workers, ambulance workers, the nurses, physios , therapists, nurses, physios, therapists, dieticians and a whole host of others, they've reached an agreement are going to be put out to members for them to vote on. but we from the health

on. but we heard from the health secretary earlier now secretary earlier on. now we've heard the minister. heard from the prime minister. the government has reached agreement unions agreement with unions representing million nhs representing over a million nhs workers on a fair and reasonable pay workers on a fair and reasonable pay settlement . this agreement pay settlement. this agreement vitally recognises the fantastic work that nhs workers like nurses, midwives and paramedics do, whilst also being affordable for the taxpayer and allowing us to deliver on our promises to halve inflation and nhs waiting list. it's a good example of this government getting things done and delivering for the british people. you say it's affordable for the taxpayers . affordable for the taxpayers. you won't mind telling us how much going to cost and much it's going to cost and where the money is going come where the money is going to come from. well i think no one can doubt commitment nhs. doubt our commitment to the nhs. after minister in after i became prime minister in the statement, we the autumn statement, we announced billion of more announced £14 billion of more funding social funding for the nhs and social care. because it's the care. that's because it's the country's priority. country's number one priority. it's my one priority and it's my number one priority and that's why it's well funded. and we will make sure that we continue to deliver on our promise cut waiting lists. promise to cut waiting lists. now that got pay now that we've got this pay agreement, united in agreement, everyone is united in wanting the best wanting to deliver the best possible for patients

possible care for patients up and and that and down the country. and that will our focus. i've going to will be our focus. i've going to swerve my question. i mean, how much is it going cost? and much is it going to cost? and you if it's good for you say if it's good for taxpayers , is money taxpayers, where is the money going from? frontline going to come from? frontline services? not. services? no, absolutely not. we are to making sure that are going to be making sure that we frontline we protect all frontline services with £14 billion of more funding that we announced at of last year. no one at the end of last year. no one can commitment to can doubt our commitment to making that is well making sure that the nhs is well funded. will always remain funded. that will always remain the we've got a great the case and we've got a great plan to make plan in place to make improvements you're already improvements and you're already seeing the results of that plan. in you look at in fact, if you look at ambulance times or ambulance waiting times or waiting a&e, they're waiting times in a&e, they're already considerably already improving considerably from couple of months ago. and from a couple of months ago. and we're keep bringing we're on track to keep bringing the list down. and with the waiting list down. and with this now , everyone this pay agreement now, everyone is be united behind is going to be united behind that and we can deliver really fantastic quality care for patients down patients up and down the country. that's everyone in country. that's what everyone in the to do. they're the nhs wants to do. they're being backed to the hilt being backed fully to the hilt to and i look forward to deliver it and i look forward to deliver it and i look forward to that the country. to doing that for the country. well, i'll try my best on that one. let me try on whether this is essentially and is essentially a plan and outline future kind of

outline now for future kind of negotiations when it comes to strikes, junior still strikes, junior doctors still going on strike. rail workers do. is this idea of a one off do. is it this idea of a one off payment last year and then a payment for last year and then a pay payment for last year and then a pay this the kind of pay rise? is this the kind of playbook like? well, playbook if you like? well, look, really pleased that look, i'm really pleased that we've agreement today we've reached agreement today with representing with unions representing over a million . and we've million nhs workers. and we've always been clear want to always been clear we want to have constructive dialogue with unions serious about unions with serious about finding fair and reasonable agreements on public sector pay. i think today's agreement demonstrate that. and what i'd say to all other unions is, you know, please don't be striking. please come in and have those talks. we've been wanting to do that. today's agreement that. and we today's agreement demonstrates about demonstrates we're serious about it. we don't want disruption for patients. want patients. we don't want disruption or disruption for schools or children so you children or classrooms. so you know, please come and get round the table. i'm confident we can find a way through today's find a way through this. today's agreement trades. we're agreement demands trades. we're serious we can serious about this and we can find just find workable solutions just to form first all, on form questions. first of all, on strike you talked about strike itself, you talked about negotiations , but hasn't negotiations there, but hasn't this proven just the government's if government's caved in, that if you a better deal, you want to get a better deal, nothing better to do than simply

just strike? well, today's just go on strike? well, today's pay just go on strike? well, today's pay agreement is fair for nhs workers. we want to make sure that we reward them and recognise the hard work they do, whether that's nurses, paramedics, midwives. but it's also taxpayers as and also fair for taxpayers as and this important to us as this was important to us as well. to be affordable well. it needs to be affordable and needs to be consistent and it needs to be consistent with promise halve with our promise to halve inflation to inflation and then get on to cutting nhs lists. you cutting nhs waiting lists. you know, why we've had know, that's why we've had constructive today's constructive dialogue. today's agreement everybody constructive dialogue. today's agreitnent everybody constructive dialogue. today's agreit was everybody constructive dialogue. today's agreit was right everybody constructive dialogue. today's agreit was right that everybody constructive dialogue. today's agreit was right that werybody constructive dialogue. today's agreit was right that we gotydy constructive dialogue. today's agreit was right that we got to and it was right that we got to this type of solution . i'm this type of solution. i'm really pleased that with this behind us now , we are united in behind us now, we are united in wanting get out and wanting to just get out and deliver quality deliver high quality patient care, waiting list care, bring the waiting list down. country down. that's what the country wants that's what we're wants to see. that's what we're going deliver. i my going to deliver. i just my friend, in relation to the budget, the that budget, one of the reasons that people strike as a cost people went on strike as a cost of living crisis and that's unked of living crisis and that's linked to inflation, but it's also going be next month also going to be next month going linked increased going to be linked to increased taxes. of millions of work taxes. lots of millions of work is to tax for is going to pay more tax for next month. taking money out of the pocket, nurses and the pocket, including nurses and doctors. accept that doctors. do you accept that those tax rises effectively because there's a threshold, the fiscal it's caused, it's

fiscal drag, it's caused, it's going to add to the cost of living the government is living crisis. the government is actually things worse for actually making things worse for people. the number challenge people. the number one challenge with of living is with the cost of living is inflation, particularly with inflation, and particularly with energy if there's one energy bills. so if there's one measure the budget that i'd measure from the budget that i'd ask people of take away ask people to kind of take away with them, it's our continued plan to support people with the cost of energy. now, what we did last a decision to last year is made a decision to tax profits of tax the windfall profits of energy companies to that energy companies and to use that money to help cut people's energy bills . and because of the energy bills. and because of the actions we've taken, people are going to receive £1,500 of direct support off their energy bills last year. and this you know, that's the right thing to do. and if there's one thing you take away from the budget, it's that this government is doing everything it can help everything it can to help you with cost of your energy with the cost of your energy bills. what will bills. and that's what we will continue. also, millions of people going to a lot more people going to pay a lot more tax, 500 quid for the average taxpayer, top tax taxpayer, £1,000 if your top tax payen taxpayer, £1,000 if your top tax payer, means less money in payer, that means less money in the pockets. the government is adding to the cost of living crisis. the government is crisis. now the government is helping family our helping a typical family in our country tune of £1,500 of

country to the tune of £1,500 of their energy bill. and we've been able to do that because we decided to tax the windfall profits of energy companies. and we're using that to take we're using that money to take people's energy bills down. that's what this government is doing. we want to help people with the of living, with the cost of living, particularly energy bills. particularly with energy bills. and the windfall and because we tax the windfall profits energy profits of those energy companies, profits of those energy compa|to s, profits of those energy compa|to discount energy bills. money to discount energy bills. it was £1,500 for a typical family , and i think that would family, and i think that would demonstrate that this government is people's side. care is on people's side. we care about this and we're going to keep well, what keep supporting it. well, what do you make of it all? i mean, politicians say what they say. it's up to us as to whether we believe them or whether believe they're doing right thing they're doing the right thing for thoughts , please. for us. your thoughts, please. gbviews@gbnews.uk okay. there is lots more still to come . between lots more still to come. between now 6:00, you find out now and 6:00, you can find out why. tick tock has been banned from government phones and is the british government goal as that's what a former australian prime minister thinks. we'll find out why . so let's get the

find out why. so let's get the latest headlines with polly . latest headlines with polly. stephen, thanks very much indeed.the stephen, thanks very much indeed. the top stories this houn indeed. the top stories this hour. the government has now agreed a pay offer with health unions representing nurses, ambulance staff and other nhs workers in england . they're workers in england. they're going to receive a consolidated pay going to receive a consolidated pay increase of 5% and an additional lump sum worth at least £1,655. if they agree to its health. unions have now suspended all plan strikes and are recommending their members do accept the deal in an up coming ballot. it comes after health workers in scotland represented by the gmb union, accepted six and a half % from accepted six and a half% from the scottish government. the prime minister's says today's agreement is a message to other unions to stop the strikes and start talks . we want to have start talks. we want to have constructive dialogue with unions, with serious about finding fair and reasonable

agreements on public sector pay. i think today's agreement demonstrates that. and what i'd say to all other unions is, you know, pleased , don't be know, pleased, don't be striking. please come in and have those we've been have those talks. we've been wanting that and we wanting to do that and we today's agreement demonstrates that it. that we're serious about it. we don't disruption . well don't want disruption. well a short time ago in central london , the head of health at unison , , the head of health at unison, speaking to gb news, said she wanted this to be the start of government and unions working together to make a difference here. sarah gorton well, i think the moral of the story is that when government works with trade unions, we can actually deliver something that might make a difference to the health service. so, you know, we want to see as the start of a to see this as the start of a process where government actually listens to trade unions and accepts that we're the voice of health workers and wants to work with us constructively . work with us constructively. well, in a separate issue, junior doctors belonging to the british medical association associate , rather, are yet to associate, rather, are yet to resolve their pay dispute. however, they've welcomed an

invitation to negotiate again from the government with talks set to take place tomorrow. we'll keep you fully up to date on that one. those are the latest news headlines. back to . stephen now there's lots to talk about money this afternoon. some of it small change, some of it very big indeed. and credit suisse has regained some of its losses today and restored investor confidence because it's borrowing owed up . to $54 borrowing owed up. to $54 billion from switzerland's central bank. that's about £45 billion. now, the swiss firm is the first major global bank to be thrown an emergency lifeline since the 2008 financial crisis . and its troubles have raised doubts about whether central banks can sustain an aggressive interest rate hikes. credit suisse and sought help after

revealing that it found material weaknesses in its financial reporting . well, that means no reporting. well, that means no idea . i wonder if jasmine idea. i wonder if jasmine birtles now she's the founder of money magpie. com jasmine, good to see you. what is a material weakness in financial reporting 7 weakness in financial reporting ? i'll load dodging as i suspect all sorts of numbers that are hidden. i believe so. i do think that credit suisse is one of the banks, one of the first banks that are going to go in. what looks like it's going to be another financial crisis is which, of course, we all need like a hole in the head. well so you think despite this and despite the market shoring up now in the banking sector , you now in the banking sector, you think that actually credit suisse could go in? that's a domino effect, is it? well, it feels like it to me. the thing is that credit suisse has been on the rocks for a while . i on the rocks for a while. i mean, my son, who's been on gb

news, a couple of times, has written a whole book on it, and it's probably it's been the front runner for a lot of people who've been looking at the banking sector and going , this banking sector and going, this is this is built on sand, a lot of this. so that it has been the front runner for a while. and it doesn't help, but it's been bailed out by the swiss national bank, which itself was bailed out last year. and then you've got the european central bank that's saying, oh, don't worry, we'll we'll all shore up any banks. we'll we'll be there. we'll put money in. but again, it itself, the european central bank, looks like it will need to be bailed out by the european taxpayer , essentially. so you've taxpayer, essentially. so you've got this ridiculous sort of merry go round of one bank having to shore up another bank and then the central government having to shore up the central bank. and then the central bank having to shore up the central

government. it cannot go on like that. all right. so what happens then over here from i mean, obviously, you know, it's the whole thing. if america sneezes, the rest of the world catches a cold and all that sort of thing when it comes to the banking sector. however what can banks that are based here in the uk do to make sure that they have some resolve is against whatever is coming ? well, resolve is against whatever is coming? well, in resolve is against whatever is coming ? well, in theory , the coming? well, in theory, the banksin coming? well, in theory, the banks in this country have been stress tested regularly . they stress tested regularly. they have in theory , had a huge have in theory, had a huge amounts of huge piles of money. in theory . that's the idea that in theory. that's the idea that they've been test it to see that they've been test it to see that they've got all this money, this this extra leeway. and according to the rules, the new rules that came in after the last financial crash, our banks are strong . crash, our banks are strong. however, there are quite a few people who question those rules, who question the stability, whether it really is genuinely

enough for these banks. because remember, we operate as do most banksin remember, we operate as do most banks in the west on a fractional banking system. so fractional banking system. so fractional banking, as you know, means there's very little actual money, very few actual assets that each bank has. but they create money so that they're lending out lending, lending, lending, lots of more money than they actually have. so that means that banks just the whole banking system, the idea of fractional banking is a little bit wobbly in and of itself, frankly, entirely legal. it's how we've operated for years, but it's still pretty wobbly when things look difficult outside . jasmine, i'm not filled outside. jasmine, i'm not filled with confidence. i have to say. but nevertheless , it's good to but nevertheless, it's good to talk to you. thanks very much. 0h, talk to you. thanks very much. oh, dear . we believe saw oh, dear. we believe saw encouraging. is it ? dear me, if

encouraging. is it? dear me, if you know more about the economic sector than i do. gb views. gb news. .uk give me some hope, please . now to some. i mean, please. now to some. i mean, devastating news to those people involved. it's a hotel or housing ukrainian refugees , a housing ukrainian refugees, a very old one, about 400 years old. and engulfed by a fire in west sussex in the early hours of this morning. now it's thought to have broken out just after 1:00 in the morning. the property on north street in midhurst and then spread to the angelin midhurst and then spread to the angel in next door. and that's a reporter theo chikomba as the story throughout the day, emergency services, firefighters and more agencies including gas engineers , have been here in engineers, have been here in midhurst following the fire, which started around 1 am. here at the angel inn, and the building's next door to it. 400 year old building where ukrainians were staying that they have now been taken away. they are being looked after. earlier today, i spoke to a restaurant manager who said he was here around 1:00 in the

morning just after his shifted , morning just after his shifted, finished, had seen smoke in the air alongside his colleague and he came here to assist. he called 999. and then he took those ukrainians who are staying at this hotel to their restaurant, offering them blankets , food and more until blankets, food and more until the early hours of this morning , the local council has been inundated with donations. many people giving food , clothing and people giving food, clothing and more. for some of those people who inevitably lost some of their items because of this fire. emergency services have been working here throughout the day today , this afternoon around day today, this afternoon around 3:00. this is probably the first time you can see the area clearly because there was a cloud of smoke covering the road from most parts of the day, but they are now working towards the back of the buildings. we understand they'll be here for the next few days as as well. investigations will be continuing to establish what was the cause of the fire theo

chikomba that now still to come for you, a former australian prime minister has had some very harsh words for the uk government. well thought of what they were . this is

gb news. now the former australian prime minister paul keating has called us brits gormless. there's this claim that his country's decision to join the uk and the us in a defence pact could carry deadly conflict and says earlier this week, of course , the orcas this week, of course, the orcas steal three western allies and hopes that australia would buy up to five us submarines and launch a 30 year plan to build its own fleet of british designed nuclear powered subs. so i'll be gormless when it comes to defence. let's ask the defence editor of the evening standard, robert fox. hi roberts. you're not gormless ? no

roberts. you're not gormless? no you wouldn't expect me to say so . paul keating's remarks were unfortunate . he was joined by unfortunate. he was joined by a fellow pm of australia , malcolm fellow pm of australia, malcolm turnbull, who also said this was a rotten deal because of course they'd been involved in a previous deal that did go very badly wrong with the french. the french were going to build oceangoing submarines that were conventional submarines and the previous australian government, which was a conservative one, the liberal party pulled the plug the liberal party pulled the plug and they pulled the plug. i would estimate to for very good reasons. now this is what paul keating and malcolm turnbull are complaining about, that really this is up the ante. the brexit no good and it will provoke the french and they chinese. now that's this mean that they want to be pals with the chinese and that they're going to ignore the very aggressive activities of the chinese in the south pacific oceans, and particularly towards

australia. question mark actually i think the acas deal has proved remarkable . well has proved remarkable. well thought out . so why are they why thought out. so why are they why is paul keating and others getting getting their knickers in such a twist over this? i mean, we know china's made it very clear they're unhappy with the deal. would it nice if the deal. would it be nice if the deal. would it be nice if the subs were built in barrow in furness these first few, rather than being built by the united states? that's the way it states? but that's the way it goes. wonder. i mean, goes. but you do wonder. i mean, australia it to australia wants to it wants to play australia wants to it wants to play with big boys, doesn't play with the big boys, doesn't it ? well, that's the point. what it? well, that's the point. what australia is pointing to is a treaty , not wikipedia , but it's treaty, not wikipedia, but it's a very important article . the a very important article. the mutual defence treaty of 1958, where britain and america agreed to share all the secrets and all their science on nuclear plants and the submarines . and it has and the submarines. and it has really worked and it hasn't leaked. it doesn't go to third

parties and the australian decided , i think quite rightly, decided, i think quite rightly, it needed long legged nuclear submarines. they have much greater range than the conventional equivalent and the way to do it was to get in with a deal like the brit and the americans. now the brits are not on the back foot quite right. they say they got the design initiative and the americans want that . the americans want want that. the americans want the brits to lead the building of the submarines , which will be of the submarines, which will be the continuing fleet for australia . but they won't come australia. but they won't come fully on stream for nearly another 20 years. admittedly but it is technology and technology and development developed which actually can go to a peaceful area , as we heard, because they area, as we heard, because they may provide a clue to how we're going to develop these mini nuclear reactors for the domestic energy industry . so, in domestic energy industry. so, in fact , it's not exactly a win fact, it's not exactly a win win. it will be expensive, but

it will not be as difficult as the prospect for britain prepared to be just a year ago. britain is already developing submarines ahead of the design of the americans. that's the of the dreadnought design of the ballistic sub. and this new focus as you class, which is a leap forward. robert, as always, good to talk to you . thank you good to talk to you. thank you very much indeed. thanks for making sense of it. all now let's turn our attention to the world of football. should we? because gianni infantino has been re—elected as the president of fifa, nobody stood against him. infantino infantino's been in of the of the world. in charge of the of the world. football's governing body since 2016. of course , fifa 2016. but, of course, fifa criticised for staging last year's world cup and qatar. let's talk to our national reporter paul hawkins, who of course was in qatar for the world cup. good to see you. i mean, he says he's a controversial character at the best of times. yeah he's always got something to say that kind of you wear makes of catches you wear and makes you look, he's been you frown. yeah. look, he's been re—elected president,

re—elected as president, which isn't given there re—elected as president, which isn'tno given there re—elected as president, which isn'tno one given there re—elected as president, which isn'tno one runningen there re—elected as president, which isn'tno one running against him was no one running against him in almost all of the 211 countries in fifa voted for him . apart from a face like germany that weren't happy with his lack of what they say is a lack of transparency, when it comes to communication over human rights and this is going back to qatar, which you would have thought of, as in the past. now the world cup's been gone. but as part of that, there was criticism over qatar's human rights record. gianni infantino himself said, look, cup going to look, the world cup is going to be going to be transformative. it's going to change the country. change things in the country. well, the norwegian after well, now the norwegian fa after lots of other human rights organisations have well, organisations have said, well, can it? let's see what can you prove it? let's see what happened then to all the action. then the two things that fifa promised time were. but promised at the time were. but you this is migrant you know, this is a migrant workers rights where we're going to set up union in the to set up a trade union in the country going set country and we're going to set up a compensation fund for the families those that have died families of those that have died or injured. what or been injured. so what happened to adam moment? happened to that, adam moment? there's fifa . the there's no word from fifa. the norwegians that added to the norwegians had that added to the agenda today at the congress .

agenda today at the congress. the 73rd fifa congress was only last day was in kigali and rwanda . that's finished for the rwanda. that's finished for the day. there no talk about it, day. there was no talk about it, but video that was but there was a video that was played from the chair of fifa's human rights group, who apparently going to apparently he's going to canonise a british guy. he's going conduct assessment going to conduct an assessment of didn't change in of what did and didn't change in qatar. fifa conducting qatar. so fifa conducting its own of it's own assessment of whether it's whether there has been positive change in qatar or not, and reportedly the head of the norwegian f.a. ali's cleverness is happy with that. i mean, that's that's hardly transparent, is it? i mean , what transparent, is it? i mean, what about infantino's comments at the start of the day? because, i mean, he says he is this often controversial . it was controversial. it was controversial. it was controversial today. well, he was so right. let's say he started the day by saying that, talking about kind of the history of rwanda and everyone saying, where's this going ? so saying, where's this going? so he went to a football tournament in just before he was elected in 2016. and he was there, an unnamed official said, we really love you, but we're not going to support you in your bid to become fifa president. he said

that went to rwanda that he went to the rwanda genocide memorial pool and after visiting there, he said he was inspired to then run for the presidency of fifa because of the way rwanda , as a country had the way rwanda, as a country had bounced back from 800,000 people murdered during the genocide in that same kind of way. he's going to run for the presidency if and i'll give you his exact words. we're going to hear his response in just a moment. so he said, what this country has suffered how country suffered and how this country came up is inspire a ring came back up is inspire a ring for the entire world. so i certainly couldn't give up running the presidency running for the presidency because someone was telling me something and this was his response . i find it really response. i find it really incredible that you can interpret what i say making an association with one of the most terrible, terrible tragedies that's happened in humanity in this country with . anything this country with. anything that's happened in my life , this that's happened in my life, this country is so inspiring. sorry. i speak. it is so inspiring for so many people. on what has been

done that when we come with our little problems , it should just, little problems, it should just, you know, be a bit more humble about things. that's all that they said . there you go. so just they said. there you go. so just very quickly, before i let you go on the women's world cup, which is coming up in september, controversially, arabia , controversially, saudi arabia, the tourism board there, linked with the women's with sponsor ing, the women's world obviously got world cup. they've obviously got human rights issues there, allegations of human rights breaking human rights, etc, that he confirmed that they are not they do not have a contract with they do not have a contract with the world. and that will not be happening. right. paul, it wouldn't be without wouldn't be fifa without controversy, it? you controversy, would it? thank you very indeed . now the very much indeed. now the government here in the uk is cracking down on one of the most popular social media platforms. tik tok is now banned on all government devices that ministers and civil servants have. comes after the national cyber security centre published a review alleging the app could be harvesting data for the chinese communist party. so is

it a platform for dance crazes or is it something more sinister? let's talk to charles partner, obe. he's former diplomat in china and adam mcgovern, who's a political commentator. good to see you both this morning. nicholas start with you. talk us through tick because i'm too old to have it . yes. so tick talk is a very it. yes. so tick talk is a very popular app, especially for young people. but this is i think it's growing in popularity for employees and staffers to utilise because they see it as a way of engage the youth. we've seen videos , for example, like seen videos, for example, like nadine dory. she did a rap about the online safety bill, which i thought was a little bit ludicrous. but this was a way to engage young people. but however , with tik tok, there is there is the concern about national security because it is owned by the chinese state, by a dance company and it's been proven that the data that you use the platform. so anything that you search your friends, your location is handed to this company which is then handed over to the chinese communist

party . so i over to the chinese communist party. so i think that there's a lot of concern about this, and i think that this is a very good step that the government has banned this on work phones because there's a huge concern over national security. charles i mean, look, if all that is right, then it's a statement of the obvious, isn't it, that this needs to be banned and in fact, perhaps banned from the whole country if it's harvesting this much data that is going to a foreign state. well, that's certainly the indian government's way of approaching a state of a band is banned in india . but i suspect you india. but i suspect you wouldn't find a politician is prepared to stand up and say to the voters , we're going to look the voters, we're going to look them in the next election. we want to stop you looking at your tiktok. so i was that should perhaps be the case. i think it will be. but where i think the government hasn't yet gone far enough that it's over about enough is that it's over about banning it from the official telephones of that telephones of media that you carry. civil servants and carry. but as civil servants and others, ministers frequently use

their own personal devices for communication. and i that that has got to be tackled as. yeah. i mean, to be fair though on that front there is no point is in banning it on on official devices if you don't make sure that your officials are not using personal devices for official work . well, quite. and official work. well, quite. and i think there's been plenty of evidence , maybe some of it from evidence, maybe some of it from mr. maher . evidence, maybe some of it from mr. maher. matt hancock of personal devices being used to transmit their own information, some of it about governments. so i think, you know, humans are human. they will go for the nearest and easiest thing . so nearest and easiest thing. so it's best, i think, to try and persuade or perhaps even ban officials from that. i mean, what's your perspective from i mean, as charles says, you know, you can't go about banning it right across the countries. there's been an uproar amongst young people. do you think they would you think people appreciate is happening appreciate what is happening to their before i start their data? so before i start by, want to say about

by, i just want to say about alicia kearns. so been alicia kearns. so she's been doing fantastic in raising doing fantastic work in raising awareness tik tok and awareness about tik tok and the dangeris awareness about tik tok and the danger is posed aside she's danger is posed to aside she's an mp . so there mp standing an mp. so there are mp standing up and speaking up against this. but in terms of tik tok and the platform for people, platform for young people, especially , there is a huge especially, there is a huge risk. there's studies that's proven, for example, that anything you search, for anything that you search, for example, if a young has example, if a young person has mental health problems has mental health problems that has an disorder , if you look an eating disorder, if you look up that topic on the tik tok search feed , then within minutes search feed, then within minutes your full page which basically targets what your interests are, will be flooded with these sort of content videos. and for young people who are particularly vulnerable, that will pose a huge risk for them. so i think that there is definitely an argument to be said that should be banned. it's all about those algorithms, isn't it? look, we've got to leave it there. but really interesting to talk to both you, anna charles, both of you, anna and charles, thanks indeed. well thanks very much indeed. well coming up at 6:00, it's dewbs& co and michelle is here. good to see you. so you say in the

flesh. yes, not very often , i flesh. yes, not very often, i have to say. you get much, much earlier than we used to do early mornings together, didn't we? did so many years. too many years ago, actually showing my age now . so it's very nice to be age now. so it's very nice to be here. we was in doncaster last night, right? yes, indeed. the good people of doncaster did not let us down. we had a good time. good back and forth, good levels of engagement, all about the budget. and i'll picking up budget. and i'll be picking up that budget fall out again tonight looking tonight as well. looking at, you know, and know, this, millions and millions going millions more people are going to pushed into the 40 pay tax to be pushed into the 40 pay tax right i'm fascinated. right now. and i'm fascinated. see what think, too. that's also it's a stealth tax, isn't it, in effect? yeah, it's always interesting because people always get the rich to pay more , the rich to pay more, and , get the rich to pay more, and then all a sudden people find then all of a sudden people find it's that's paying more. it's them that's paying more. and kind of and then people kind of turn against a bit. so against system a little bit. so i'm in people's i'm interested in people's reactions net migration as reactions that net migration as well, by the quarter of well, by the way. quarter of a million every year. million estimated it every year. how do sustain as some how do we sustain that as some very big questions are you going to michelle? thank to tackle, michelle? thank you very michelle's

very much indeed. michelle's here back with you here at six. i'm back with you 6:00 tomorrow morning. thanks for today .

dewbs& co the budget fallout continues tonight . now that continues tonight. now that we've all had a little bit of time to pick over the details, let me ask you this. low taxes, do you think we will ever see them again or is that just a distant memory? speaking of taxes, molly and all of you will be pulled into either ever paying be pulled into either ever paying taxes in the first place or be paying 40% tax. what do you make to that? is that fair or not? and were you one of those that were a guest, quite frankly, at the so called the lockdown files? well you would like to see the latest goings