nonh tonight on average ahead of a big grilling tomorrow before a parliamentary committee will ask the question, do you believe bods the question, do you believe boris when he says he did not mislead parliament? we'll have a look at the case report that says the met police is institute anti racist and homophobic . anti racist and homophobic. mick, is that right or is it simply a council of despair ? simply a council of despair? ambassador john simply a council of despair? ambassadorjohn bolton simply a council of despair? ambassador john bolton will join me . we will talk about the me. we will talk about the summit between china and russia which i think should be the biggest news story of the day. and joining me on talking biden's luther blissett, there was a sensation in england and

watford footballer a few years ago. we'll him is football better today than it was then but before all of that let's get ben is with polly middlehurst. nigel thank you and good evening to you. a report into britain's largest police force has been described by the home secretary today as very . baroness louise today as very. baroness louise casey who led the review found the met police to be institute racist misogynist and homophobic. the report also found the met's current ethics standards and disciplinary procedures have failed abysmally . and she's calling for a complete overhaul of the service. suella braverman she has every faith that the commission of police will be a catalyst for change. and she's vowed to hold officers and the mayor of london to account . mayor of london to account. there have been growing concerns around the performance of the metropolitan police and its ability to command the

confidence and trust of londoners . this follows a series londoners. this follows a series of abhorrent cases of officers who betrayed the public's trust and hideously abused their powers . today's report powers. today's report commissioned by sunak's predecessor , makes for very predecessor, makes for very concerning reading. it's clear that there have been serious failures of culture, leadership and standards . now, boris and standards. now, boris johnson has accepted he misled parliament over partygate, but he maintains it wasn't intentional or reckless . intentional or reckless. submitting his 52 page defence dossier to the privileges committee, the former prime minister admitted gatherings at downing street during lockdown should never have happened. he also said in the house of commons were made in good faith. he's due to give more evidence in person before mps tomorrow . in person before mps tomorrow. counter—terrorism police investigating an attack outside a mosque in birmingham and a

warning for television viewers. we're about to show video of the moment. a man was set alight, which some find distressing. it's shown on cctv footage. the victim was walking home and then was approached yesterday and he was approached yesterday and he was sprayed with an unknown substance. west midlands police say he suffered serious injuries , including burns to his face. but not thought to be life threatening. a man has been arrested on suspicion of attempted murder and a man has been charged for sending an inappropriate message to labour's deputy leader. angela rayner received an email said to have been grossly offensive and in decent in may last year. have been grossly offensive and in decent in may last year . 66 in decent in may last year. 66 year old david perry has been charged under the communications act. he'll appear before westminster magistrates court next month . now a group of next month. now a group of eurosceptic conservative mps has described parts of the prime minister's new brexit deal with the eu as practically useless. the european research group commissioned lawyers to scrutinise the windsor framework

ahead of tomorrow's vote on a stormont brake element . the stormont brake element. the proposal. a spokesperson for rishi sunak said it is a good deal and is urging lawmakers to backit deal and is urging lawmakers to back it up to date on tv , back it up to date on tv, online, dab, radio and on tunein with gb news. the people's channel. time for fair. well, i guess the biggest domestic story in british politics today is the dossier released by boris johnson. it was yesterday to a committee that will grill him tomorrow afternoon for 4 hours and has now gone public today. and the big debate is, did boris johnson, miss lead parliament? because if the committee tomorrow finds that he did and parliament agrees with them , and parliament agrees with them, and if he faces a suspension of more

than ten days from the commons will automatically , will will automatically, will virtually automatically . through virtually automatically. through a process called recall a by—election in october that frankly he would lose. so boris johnson's political career is on the line . that is no the line. that is no exaggeration . but on the issue exaggeration. but on the issue over parties that took place in downing street . or should i say downing street. or should i say repeated parties that took place in downing whilst the rest of us were locked down? there is this big question of did he mislead parliament? but more importantly , did he intentionally mislead parliament? let's have a look at bofis parliament? let's have a look at boris being questioned on this just over a year ago , could i just over a year ago, could i ask the prime minister ? did you ask the prime minister? did you deliberately mislead the house at the dispatch box ? no, mr. at the dispatch box? no, mr. speaker , before me . you are speaker, before me. you are discussing your probity this afternoon in the house of commons. you are saying that you did mislead them with all the

statements you made as these revelations came out. what do you say to them? the answer you say to them? and the answer to that great question. did you mislead the house of commons knowingly ? knowingly or independently? well, course it's up to that. well, of course it's up to that. they must do whatever they want. that's their that's their prerogative. i want to focus on the i may not be the world's leading expert, but i may well not be that it was an expert on body language. but i have to say that that second interview done just a few after he definitively said no to the house of commons, looked, how can i put it pretty shifty . but ahead of looked, how can i put it pretty shifty. but ahead of this committee meeting that will take place this four hour grilling tomorrow afternoon . boris tomorrow afternoon. boris johnson has put out , i think, johnson has put out, i think, a very key state moment today. he accepts that . did ms. lee accepts that. did ms. lee parliament. i accept that the house of commons was misled by my statements that the rules and guidance i could be incomplete completely followed and unbuttoned. so what he's saying

is i did mislead parliament, but it wasn't my fault, guv , because it wasn't my fault, guv, because people at number 10 told me that actually everything we were doing was within the rules. so my question to you is, do you believe , boris? give me your believe, boris? give me your views of garage at gbnews.uk . i views of garage at gbnews.uk. i have to say this and a lot of you watching this and listening to this will not like this one little bit , because i know many little bit, because i know many of you are big fans of boris johnson, but i've also spoken to people who were at school with him, who worked with him on the telegraph and the times and everyone says the same thing. he is engaging. he is entertaining . he has his passions. is engaging. he is entertaining . he has his passions . but his . he has his passions. but his relationship with the truth is pretty loose. whether this is going to be the end of boris johnson's career or not, i simply can't say. but i have to say that i struggle very much to believe that he's ever telling the truth, and i'm not even sure he knows whether he's telling the truth or. somebody who knows

him very, very well is alex crowley . and alex, i mean, crowley. and alex, i mean, you've been with him as mayor of london, his leadership campaign. you've with this guy for you've worked with this guy for many many years . and i'm sure many, many years. and i'm sure you'd agree with me. he's engaging. he's had to take. he's all of those things . but when all of those things. but when you look at the record , you you look at the record, you know, sat by the times newspaper publishing a story that was just wholly untrue . you sat for the wholly untrue. you sat for the conservative opposition frontbench for a denial of a relationship . now, you know, he relationship. now, you know, he may have been protecting people. i don't know. that was untrue. i think whatever we think of him, whether we like him or dislike him, is irrelevant here because he is quite jolly and. yeah. do you find him truthful in all of your all the years you work with him? do you find him a truthful man? i think he passionately believes what he says at the time, if they are perhaps time, even if they are perhaps inconsistent with with previous statements. that's exactly statements. that's not exactly he's. no he's always delicate .

he's. no he's always delicate. he's not exactly a tall, smooth elf. the veracity of boris johnson has to say, you've read out the record, obviously. i think sane and logical couldn't possibly disagree with that summary of events. what people like about him is he is the slightly nature of him and that's the positive side of him. but we i think we all have to accept that there are some downsides that come with that and this is perhaps one of them and this is perhaps one of them and he he bounces from thing to thing , idea to idea, and he gets thing, idea to idea, and he gets caught up a little. i think sometimes he perhaps likes getting with things that he perhaps may feel a different naughty six former. yes. that's being and you see the sort of grin the camera oh gosh i've been caught again. yes, exactly. think of a sort of fifties comic strip schoolboy comic character thatis strip schoolboy comic character

that is the persona that he's cultivated and generally speaking, he's he's perhaps got more positive things out of it than negative and i think we just have to accept that that is the person boris is . but here's the person boris is. but here's the person boris is. but here's the problem . never before in our the problem. never before in our history , certainly not since . history, certainly not since. and the puritans , not even in and the puritans, not even in world war ii, did we have our liberties and our freedoms taken away from us in the way they in those successive lockdowns , we those successive lockdowns, we weren't allowed to visit our relatives. we weren't allowed to meet socially, even when we were. it was a rule of six or whatever it may . there were whatever it may. there were people that received £10,000 fines for, social gatherings and we learned that there was a culture in downing street. and by the way, i thought the fixed penalty notice that he got for walking into a room and being given a birthday cake was ludicrous. we now have ludicrous. well, we now have a situation where two prime ministers received fixed ministers have received a fixed penalty in this penalty notice for being in this happen have been in happen happen to have been in the room as a birthday

the same room as a birthday cake.i the same room as a birthday cake. i listen, i absolutely that. however, what we is that. however, what we though is there suitcases . people there were suitcases. people were going to supermarkets and filling suitcase with bottles of booze. filling suitcase with bottles of booze . and on the eve of the booze. and on the eve of the duke of edinburgh's funeral of course, you know, boozing it up until two or three in the morning with karaoke machines at number 10 downing street. there it literally impossible that it is literally impossible that the man at head of government did not know that a cat literally, impulsively, if i'm going , i will literally, impulsively, if i'm going, i will be slightly fair to him and say that those cases that referred to which were out of order and disgraceful and most people accept that he wasn't actually at those. what i can say i fully accept the facts when i made that he was the head of the organisation and i subscribe the lord carrington view, if you will, the if your name's above the door , then the name's above the door, then the buck stops with you. end of rights. but i do find it interesting that because of we must remember that the schedule of a prime minister is

completely ludicrous right. the prime minister has the same number of hours in the day that you and i have. the only problem is they have to do about 100 times more things. literally, what the prime what happens is the prime minister, is shunted minister, the day is shunted from to thing, right? as from thing to thing, right? as he will have been walking from one meeting another. someone he will have been walking from one haveing another. someone he will have been walking from one have come another. someone he will have been walking from one have come anotwithsomeone he will have been walking from one have come anotwithsobitone will have come him with a bit of paper and right now you've paper and said, right now you've got in there say got to go in there and say goodbye to person because goodbye to that person because they're so do a quick they're leaving. so do a quick toast and then go on to the next thing. i get i'm not thing. i get that. i'm not saying this not saying this to excuse find it very excuse him, but i find it very interesting of other interesting that of these other things happening what were things were happening what were the officials the armies of officials in number exactly. the number 10 doing exactly. the ones had keep the ones who had to keep the building manage from day to day, who were probably more knowledgeable about the regulations knowledgeable about the regulaticthey wrote the i find because they wrote the i find lots of what was going on with the service here. well, the civil service here. well, it's clearly there lots of it's clearly there are lots of people of one of the people here guilty of one of the great hypocrisies allowing great hypocrisies, allowing a culture place in downing culture to take place in downing street the rest of us were street was the rest of us were living in fear. they're going to visit our elderly relatives. do you think survives this

you think boris survives this committee tomorrow afternoon? i think survives it in the think he survives it in the sense that it is actually sort of irrelevant what the committee decides . it's going to go to a decides. it's going to go to a vote of the house. the committee has no power to do anything to over what i is quite over what i say is quite important. what they say is important, ultimately important, but ultimately it comes to a question of comes down to a question of conservative is this conservative mps, which is this do stick necks on the do we stick our necks on the line to get rid of this guy? do we censure him in some lesser way to show we were all very upset and this really shouldn't have happened. but but fundamentally keeping him in the house of commons, that's that's what question that what the real question now that , think a very good , i think is a very good analysis. well, we'll see what happens over the course of the next days . i have to say, next few days. i have to say, i think to actually prove that some fully. yes. he misled parliament. i've said for the last 18 months that it was obvious that misled parliament, but to actually prove fairly that he wilfully misled parliament is a very difficult thing. and that's why alex is

right. ultimately it'll be tory mps that decide his fate in minute. lord green house will join me. former deputy mayor for policing london is dame louise casey. right when she decries the met police as being institutionally racist, homophobic . institutionally racist, homophobic. in fact, virtually every crime you can commit in modern britain . is she right? modern britain. is she right? does the met any breaking up or is it simply over the top? back with you in a couple of minutes

so your reactions to my question, do we believe boris is telling the truth? i've got to telling the truth? i've got to tell you, anything to do with bofis tell you, anything to do with boris johnson raises huge emotions on both sides. you know, jo says yes , i believe know, jo says yes, i believe bofis. know, jo says yes, i believe boris . but know, jo says yes, i believe boris. but david know, jo says yes, i believe boris . but david says that man boris. but david says that man has never made a truthful

statement in his life , as i say. statement in his life, as i say. great passions. dave says , no great passions. dave says, no politician tells the truth no matter what side of house dave's a proper sceptic. and another says no. he lies through his back teeth over and over again . back teeth over and over again. look, folks, i am not anti boris . i quite like him. i think he's quite funny. i've just always said he has a very loose relationship with the truth and it's very difficult to live with that when you are in the position of being prime minister up at that dispatch box . let's up at that dispatch box. let's move the subject. todd i'm joined by lord steven greenhouse , former deputy mayor for policing and crime under mayor bofis policing and crime under mayor boris johnson. a lot of boris in the room today. we've had stephen. yes. another louise casey review. she's been doing this for 20 years, producing these reports. and if we listen to the headlines this morning on our radio and televisions , you

our radio and televisions, you know, the metropolitan police are institutionally homophobic , are institutionally homophobic, racist, transphobic . i think racist, transphobic. i think needs to change immediately or be broken up. i mean , i don't be broken up. i mean, i don't for a minute doubt this is a very bad eggs in the as there are. frankly, i know walks of life i felt the whole thing was a total councillor despair but you were fortunate enough to have an embargoed copy of this report. you've had a chance to really understand it. what is she telling us? well, she's telling us quite honest, sensible things . so if you read sensible things. so if you read the recommendation, is there not headune the recommendation, is there not headline grabbing are sort out the vetting procedures which no one can disagree with . you know, one can disagree with. you know, we don't want our police officers that are going to abuse their powers there's about their powers. there's also about how the rotten how you deal with the rotten apples and you can get them out of the system. and that's a problem successive problem for successive commissioners that the whole misconduct really misconduct process is really difficult . i i remember difficult. i mean, i remember having my meetings around particularly bad cases of , particularly bad cases of, corrupt officers, and just

trying to deal with pension forfeiture years after the event. so i think there are some hugely sensible reforms that are just very technocratic. there are also calls for governance reform . you know, i think really reform. you know, i think really throws into question the hell has doing for last has been doing for the last seven years. and one things seven years. and one of things is to up a board, a policing is to set up a board, a policing board for london. we actually had under boris johnson was called move back challenge, called the move back challenge, a performance review. he's completely that. he's completely dismantled that. he's also got rid of the metric to determine whether the police are behaving properly . the public, behaving properly. the public, which is public confidence . but which is public confidence. but here's very important point . i here's a very important point. i don't most people watching don't think most people watching or listening this now on what or listening to this now on what the relationship is between the mayor of london , the mayor of london, the metropolitan police. please explain . yeah, it's very clear. explain. yeah, it's very clear. it's down to the reform of . nick it's down to the reform of. nick herbert is now in the lords with me. he he is the police reform and social responsibility act. mccullen effectively the mccullen is effectively the police and crime commissioner for has executive for london. he has executive oversight to ensure that the metropolitan services both effective efficient. he has effective and efficient. he has control over that you can

control over them that you can set low decision set very low key decision limits. has he owns the limits. he has he owns the buildings. i mean, mayor buildings. i mean, this mayor has a huge amount of power and levers , the metropolitan police levers, the metropolitan police service. don't think he service. but i don't think he can a lever when it goes can see a lever when it goes wrong . he blames everyone else, wrong. he blames everyone else, but to be seen. but he's nowhere to be seen. he's nobody saying but he's nobody saying i am, but i haven't heard a single criticism of malcolm own today. well, i mean, that's what i found extraordinary that here is a mayor that dismantled the performance framework that we used under boris to increase pubuc used under boris to increase public confidence in policing after the riots of 2011, it really plummeted , got confidence really plummeted, got confidence up to two thirds of london numbers, but which is not great, but good enough that 2000 members believe they're doing a good at least a good job. good job, at least a good job. now, fewer than one in two londoners police londoners think the police are doing good job. trust has doing a good job. trust has plummeted. further. plummeted. even further. so there's issue. this man there's a real issue. this man doesn't have the performance metric didn't the metric, didn't have the leadership qualities. i think the has to step up and the mayor has got to step up and take head regardless, whether it's the mayor or successive bosses of the. do you believe

the metropolitan police institute racist , the metropolitan police institute racist, homophobic and transphobic? well those are the headunes transphobic? well those are the headlines of today. and i frankly, with the commissioner actually , many of the other actually, many of the other former police officers. i think it doesn't help the phrase institutional. what does it actually mean . the real question actually mean. the real question is how do you deal with systemic problems ? how do we deal with problems? how do we deal with issues that , you know, like issues that, you know, like improving the vetting procedures but these headlines ? but not using these headlines? actually, don't analyse the problem and they just they just what the story for you. so i think you know let's let's have the clear of how the mayor the clear idea of how the mayor is reform and. do we is going to reform and. do we believe that current believe that the current commission going to do that? commission is going to do that? so rather breaking so we will rather than breaking it which is what casey kind it off, which is what casey kind of said? well, i have some sympathy if we compare with the other great global city the other great global city of the idea having clear lines of idea of having clear lines of responsibility , if it holds responsibility, if it holds national responsibility , then national responsibility, then then not the home secretary . if then not the home secretary. if you're the police force in london to the mayor. so perhaps clarifying those lines of responsibility and creating a

policing , you know, entity that policing, you know, entity that is answerable the home secretary and being very clear what the police service is a lot more. that's not really it up because the would be a huge the met would still be a huge number police officers. yeah number of police officers. yeah i what, there's no easy i tell you what, there's no easy answers. this was thank you for coming in and joining us. and a quick thought political quick thought on political correctness. really, correctness. and this is really, really important. angela kilmartin councillor kilmartin, a councillor on braintree now braintree district council, now she's 81 and i think she's entitled to her views. she did like braintree high street being full of pride flags . she said, i full of pride flags. she said, i don't want six flags along high street. i don't want heterosexual flags along my high street. you know what? i actually rather agree , angela. i actually rather agree, angela. i can't understand when i shop at waitrose at certain times of the yean waitrose at certain times of the year, there's a pride flag on desk. do you know what i don't care. i'm not interested . we care. i'm not interested. we should all be equal before the law. we don't need this nonsense . and yet, michael lager , the . and yet, michael lager, the town council, conservative leader, has suspended a we

disassociate ourselves totally from the reported remarks from this particular member. isn't it time we all just grew up a little bit accepted ? there are little bit accepted? there are differences between here and beings. why should anybody have a problem with that? what don't need living our normal daily lives are adverts for various different groups . either we're different groups. either we're all equal before law or we are doomed as a society . all equal before law or we are doomed as a society. in a moment, i'll be joined by ambassadorjohn bolton. we're ambassador john bolton. we're going to talk about the biggest story in the world that is being virtually ignored as we play these westminster. i met police relative paula games. they're getting together of the russian i'm a chinese president's back with you in 2 minutes. there's help for households. are you over state pension age? if your weekly income is below £182.60, or £278.70 if you live with a partner,

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single most important and potentially worrying development over the course of the last day andindeed over the course of the last day and indeed the last couple of weeks is the increasing globe prominence of. yes yes, the chinese president xi. there he was just last week brokering an agreement almost like an abraham accord between saudi arabia and iran. i could scarcely believe what i was saying or the lack of comment around it. and there he is with and they're praising each other to the high heavens. in fact, there's even been reported that putin may now go and visit beijing, we're not talking about this enough. i fear our potential enemies are getting together. i wonder whether our stance over ukraine is part of that. well, who better to speak to on an issue of this gravity that ambassador john bolton , former us john bolton, former us ambassador , the un and of ambassador, the un and of course, national security under donald trump ? john, no one's donald trump? john, no one's talking about this big get together over the last two days

in moscow. what does it to you? well, it's hugely significant. and, you know, sometimes history moves fast, sometimes it moves slow. i think it's moving very fast now and you've you've had two important things. two very important things. china's presence in the middle east. way, it's never done east. in a way, it's never done before. followed a few days by joint by joint naval manoeuvres by russia, china and iran in the gulf of oman, right outside . the gulf of oman, right outside. the strait of hormuz, where through which all that oil comes and then moscow, you can't make this up . what has been created here up. what has been created here is the cold war , sino. so the is the cold war, sino. so the alliance, except this time it's the chinese who are on top and. it's the russians who are the junior partners, and they've got outliers like iran and north korea . this is a global problem korea. this is a global problem when we witness is not just a european issue, it's not just an asian issue . it's a very new asian issue. it's a very new development that we're not thinking through. and south appears to be in that camp now . appears to be in that camp now. and the big question is , where and the big question is, where does india go? yeah, well, and the big question is, where does india go? yeah, well , think does india go? yeah, well, think india be brought away from india can be brought away from the russians? it's difficult

given their background, but they do see china as their principal enemy and they share a frontier that the chinese constantly encroaching so there's encroaching on. so there's reason for that. but india helped russia out buying oil and gas during the war in ukraine. so it's very complex for them. but but all what all this is the kind of comfort level we've had after the end of the cold war is over now. it is, in fact, over before america. 911 showed that it was over . before america. 911 showed that it was over. but this is really significa and i just fear in america and in europe, people don't see the big picture. i want to john bolton and i was over at cpac recently and as you know, i'm in touch with a lot of media and figures in the states . i'm fascinated. i mean, here there is very strong support for zelenskyy, very strong support . zelenskyy, very strong support. ukraine. we take the view that a sovereign country has been invaded and therefore we must defend them and help them. i send amongst conservatives in america there is a now a sort of

reluctance to keep pouring money and arms into is are is the west's to date support for zelenskyy that in a way pushing our allies to get our enemies together on the other side should we should we be playing a less proactive role in ukraine? really, the question that i ask, yeah, i, i think the answer to thatis yeah, i, i think the answer to that is no. i think, you've got to resist russian aggression against ukraine because . the against ukraine because. the chinese are looking at this very carefully. and if the united states, the united kingdom won't resist on the of europe, beijing may well conclude we won't resist . they go after taiwan and resist. they go after taiwan and it's what putin concluded after the catastrophic withdrawal from kabul the catastrophic withdrawal from kabul, 100% both both china and russia saw that as a huge mistake by the united states. totally an unforced error. but i want to come to your point about pushing russia toward china this has been going on for quite some

time. when i was going to moscow, i served in the white house.i moscow, i served in the white house. i said to the russians, you're wrong you're moving in the wrong direction. getting closer you're moving in the wrong dchina,1. getting closer you're moving in the wrong dchina,1. is getting closer you're moving in the wrong dchina,1. is going ng closer you're moving in the wrong dchina,1. is going to closer you're moving in the wrong dchina,1. is going to worker . china, this is going to work out for russia over an out poorly for russia over an extended period of time. i got no traction at all. i made no converse to that idea. but there's doubt the difficult there's no doubt the difficult day russia's had in the war in ukraine has forced them to turn to . and china is going to to china. and china is going to take advantage it. and that's not area that we put not an area that we put sanctions on. russia and they find markets china . now, find new markets in china. now, i donald trump had i wonder if donald trump had been the house whether putin been in the house whether putin would have invaded ukraine. what do you think? well, i think he thought trump was going to withdraw nato in a second term. and think would have and i do think would have been a possibility. trump has said in the past few days we need to completely re—evaluate which i take, trump said the delinquent members should pay the 2. and i tell you, 99% of america does agree with that. yeah that too many european countries have benefited from uk and us defence expenditures . but but i think , i expenditures. but but i think, i think putin was expecting a

trump victory in 2020 and i think that's when he would have gone after ukraine. interesting now, john, even president trump famously fell out quite dramatically . that's very dramatically. that's very diplomatically , i don't think diplomatically, i don't think both sides had their first say. but i've got to come. goodness what on earth is going on when trump puts out at the weekend on trade social, they're going to come and arrest me on tuesday and barrack aides are being put up around the courthouse in new york and people are massing in the streets outside mar a lago and this is . all £130,000 and this is. all £130,000 payment that was made to star stormy daniels. and it's all about whether that have been listed as a campaign contribution. well, whether i should and shouldn't. i can't judge . but even if it shouldn't, judge. but even if it shouldn't, it was admitted. i looked at it . about $1.6 billion was spent between the two sides of the presidential campaign . this, at

presidential campaign. this, at worst , would be a presidential campaign. this, at worst, would be a misdemeanour and a rounding error, wouldn't it ? yeah. look. and trump faces it? yeah. look. and trump faces a number of criminal indictments . and i think anybody who's at them would say the stormy daniels case is the least important, least significant . if important, least significant. if one prosecutor were handling all these, this would be the last brought. but we have a federal system, the georgia prosecutor are looking at another thing. new york federal government there obviously was no coordination because the deep state to bring him down. that's what the whites would say. well, well here is a point that i don't think you argue with, and thatis don't think you argue with, and that is the democrats think that trump is their greatest asset, they may be or they may be wrong, but the real question here is not whether trump gets indicted. i think that's coming indicted. i think that's coming in i don't know exactly in days. i don't know exactly when but it's days, not weeks when, but it's days, not weeks in stormy daniels stormy in the stormy daniels stormy daniels matter. the real issue is , will he convicted if he is, will he get convicted if he is, will he get convicted if he is acquitted? i think that will give trump the republican

nomination could elect him to the presidency if he's convicted , even though it's trivial . in , even though it's trivial. in the big picture, a former president of the united states convicted for cooking the books for the hush money he paid a star. he was having an affair. john bolton , $130,000. and here john bolton, $130,000. and here we have the president's drug son getting out and his brother's not done too badly either. getting millions from corrupt regimes all over the world. republicans and minded americans say some. it's gone wrong. everything is rotten in america, including our judiciary. well have to say this in middle america , where the evangelical america, where the evangelical christians are hush money to a star, not a good look, not a great. i do buy that point, but know what, though? the billy bush and yet they still voted for him in. those states once it was sure that'll happen again i'm right. there's no way john bolton's ever going to come back on donald trump. it's a pleasure to have you back in the studio. it really is. and discuss that

really quick really important issue. quick thought to the thought before we go to the break. there i was last night up at raaf scampton. have look at these as was these pictures as i was broadcasting from that extraordinary end up extraordinary dambusters end up in my local village hall . in my local village hall. hundreds of people were gathering . they do not want that gathering. they do not want that iconic raaf from which that amazing dambusters was launched. they do not want this turned into a migrant detention centre for young men , the english for young men, the english channel. they want that runway to stay open. they jobs, they want invest but and i am 100% on that as i think should you be. there is a petition to save raaf scampton . it's history, it's scampton. it's history, it's legacy , it's future prospects legacy, it's future prospects and above i want future generations to know the amazing sacrifice our made for us all. be free. you got to change .org you can sign the petition yourself in a minute i'm going to be joined on talking points by an absolutely groundbreaking

king black footballer, louis blissett of watford fame of england, fame . and i tell you england, fame. and i tell you what, he's a hell of a guy. back with you in a couple of minutes

it's time for talking points. yes, that time of the day. and i'm very pleased as i'm joined by luther blissett luther, welcome. my pleasure. to the pro gram. now ms. june, by the way , gram. now ms. june, by the way, i don't believe that he's still fighting in every lose the first generation immigrant to britain. yep what was it like you first came here this ? well, i mean, came here this? well, i mean, when i arrived, that would have been, what, 62? 63? when i arrived, yeah. coming from the caribbean, where it's warm, it's sunny.

caribbean, where it's warm, it's sunny . you know, you run around sunny. you know, you run around as a kid the five, six year old, you're running, you know, in bare feet all the time. and you're, you know, you've you've maybe caught them out from the actual caribbean sea as well. so it was i mean, for a young boy, it's the most ideal it place ever be and to live in an ever to be and to live in an island in the caribbean. and so it something that i never, it was something that i never, ever thought at any stage that would somewhere i'd up would be somewhere i'd end up here england . it's funny here in england. but it's funny how things go and i've loved my time in england , but you grabbed time in england, but you grabbed an opportunity in england that you wouldn't probably go. no, in jamaica . i mean, you might play jamaica. i mean, you might play cricket. who knows? cricket cricket actually was the main thing that we play we play cricket on the beach anyway. we're playing cricket actually broke my left arm playing cricket i think the cricket because i think the brother thing pushed the baby ruler over . brother thing pushed the baby ruler over. yeah. i still didn't stop us and played cricket is last was football game so you know you're here you're obviously talented sports player natural ball player football is your game and you're really

young, aren't you? when you get involved ? watford there was, involved? watford there was, yeah.i involved? watford there was, yeah. i mean, i was what i was 15 probably just turned 4015 when i first came to watford and it was only through paul kitson was at my school, it was in high and they went to watford . you and they went to watford. you know, you signed for watford as a professional and it was him coming back to the school and i think it would have about august, september time and you can imagine all of us heard this, know, as football and this, you know, as football and parents, going to parents, we were all going to have a chat with in a have a chat with them in a common they said, you common room and they said, you know, there's an open being held istanbul. know, you boys istanbul. you know, you boys should a nine us should go. a long nine of us went and i was the only that went and i was the only one that made a out of it. so it made a career out of it. so it was the right thing for me. you got to watford you spent a lot of at watford. there was of years at watford. there was some around the world. some big names around the world. biggest name of all, you know, i'm sorry, elton john. before oh, before the game. i mean , oh, before the game. i mean, there's no big name really. he was and still is yeah. complete watford devon. yeah. how

complete . and i remember the complete. and i remember the first time i actually saw him, we used to train there on a at the ground on a mud sunday evening after so he'd come up on the train and you get them train. we'd be running around and up and out and terraces. and as we were doing this, we in the tunnel, this chap appeared and he lapels, these he had huge lapels, these glasses and we went, who's glasses then and we went, who's that. we us from wales that that. we had us from wales that had no idea he was an ever sort of admired ali and all that kind of admired ali and all that kind of stuff. but it was nothing to do with that. so it was, it very, it was really good. and that was the first time i actually actually met elton john.the actually actually met elton john. the the club. oh, john. the doors, the club. oh, he's the club. he's always adored the club. he's into it, he's he's pump money into it, he's giving it publicity . he finished giving it publicity. he finished up luther a fan of yours? yeah. well think he said you were watford's favourite son. he did. and i mean, i was. i was. iwas and i mean, i was. i was. i was quite taken aback by that. but, you know, we used to do things watford as supported , watford such as supported, sponsored of everybody's sponsored bits of everybody's kit and whatever and have a good time at it. presentation

time at it. so presentation dinner at the end of season but you'd sit with your sponsors at the table and mother was one the table and his mother was one of my sponsors, sheila fairbrother she one of my sponsors. and so yeah , we really sponsors. and so yeah, we really got know him and her and the got to know him and her and the family really well and we all got on because watford was a family this all to down family and this all to down taylor , because graham taylor taylor, because graham taylor was one that really blew touch paper when he arrived in 77 at watford, to on become watford, went to on become england all things england manager. all the things in the really in years. but the really interesting of that journey, luther, is that, you luther, i think, is that, you know, when, when you to watford it is in old money yeah it's fourth division it was so you're in the football league but you're right down but you don't care you don't care . it's every care you don't care. it's every boy and now it's every girl dream, which is brilliant. but you know, at the time we are now to be a professional footballer and. for me that came true. it started in fourth division, but was never a problem for to now all i wanted to do was to be a professional footballer and i had the opportunity to do it at

watford and again, old things fell together really well, but journey was about the journey from the fourth division manager and he was kind of signed by mike kane as a year after mike kane. mike kane as a year after mike kane . so i'm able to mike kane kane. so i'm able to mike kane left . graeme taylor arrived for left. graeme taylor arrived for myself and a lot of the younger players that were hoping to make a for themselves, opened a name for themselves, it opened doors. graeme taylor disappointed players to come in and show what they're worthless. so he gave you that opportunity and as long as you show that you were good enough , you know, then were good enough, you know, then you go and you go from the fourth division. fourth division, which just amazing. so we won the fourth division. we came division. and came in the third division. and in third division, one of in that third division, one of the big games i remember is beating manchester united in the league tuesday night up league cup on a tuesday night up in there was me i in manchester. so there was me i think i was pretty good all the time, you know, scoring both goals and we beat them to win something special for something really special for myself. was myself. but for watford, it was just amazing see the rise in just amazing to see the rise in the way this went, you the way this club went, you know, fourth, third we had three

seasons, and then seasons, then second and then got into the first division, which the premier league, which is the premier league, which is the premier league, which unheard of which is, which is unheard of will we see the likes of will we ever see the likes of that again. i doubt it. the way football finishing football is now and finishing second that second to liverpool at that time, just incredible . time, it was just incredible. you see the problem is now it, you to go up the divisions you know, to go up the divisions up through, you know, one to the championship and onto the premier league . to do that you'd premier league. to do that you'd now need a couple of hundred million, wouldn't you go get more than that. sorry i think we'd chelsea money to do that but in those days i mean clearly was money in football when you were playing . i mean, the money were playing. i mean, the money the money in football. yeah but players would be bought for £20,000 and yeah. £30,000, that sort of thing. you know, my wages a person of football , wages as a person of football, the age of 17 was £30 a week, was an absolute fortune. you know, when you think of that time of what you could buy with £30, going home, £30, i remember going home, having been paid that first friday with pounds in your pocket, plus the signing fee and you're walking out high you're walking out in high street home. and

street from bilston to home. and i'm i can buy that. why i'm thinking i can buy that. why that it was just one derful that when it was just one derful feeling, given the number of goals would goals you scored, what would you get goodness me i get paid there? oh goodness me i go game as well i'd say and go for game as well i'd say and want to go bonus. i said i remember saying that the guy on of what that's you're in of what that's what you're in the today for so the team today want for that so why should i regard you for that. you're that journey for the bottom of the football league, very top, very league, the very top, very difficult yeah, it's difficult to say it. yeah, it's impossible be now impossible for it to be now because is very sad that it because it is very sad that it is because that is the is it is because that is the dream and another reason dream and again, another reason why football the way it why we all football the way it was then was you as a fourth division, a non—league you could be plain is now been be plain as it is now been mentioned at home or away in the fa that was all part fa cup because that was all part of which to see you to the of it, which to see you to the magic missing grimsby other of it, which to see you to the magandiissing grimsby other of it, which to see you to the magand allng grimsby other of it, which to see you to the magand all incredibley other of it, which to see you to the magand all incredible there other of it, which to see you to the magand all incredible there is|er day and all incredible there is magic isn't totally we magic to that isn't totally we saw wrexham give it a good try as well you know which is amazing as you know amazing now as watford you know went through the league went up through the league you became incredible became an incredible prominent personality and player and a football were there were not that many black players . there that many black players. there wasn't. there's very few. i

mean, i think counted probably mean, i think i counted probably about five and i was one of the five. yes. when i started, you had people like eddie coker. you had people like eddie coker. you had clyde you had brendan had clyde best, you had brendan batson , lawrie cunningham and batson, lawrie cunningham and you know, that was pretty . yeah. you know, that was pretty. yeah. and then the self and the england up the england cold call is one of those things you dream about, you know, you, you have these dreams want play for these dreams want to play for this and i want to play for this club and i want to play for england. you want to walk at wembley you to score at wembley and you want to score at wembley and you want to score at wembley . that came true for wembley. that came true for which is just that absolutely incredible. i think he's got a big way because you got hat trick debut and you know, the thing about that nigel as well is, you know, we're talking about it. you know, the first black player to score for england and that never crossed mind. and when it happened mind. and even when it happened , never it really registered , i never it really registered how how big a moment that was not until many years later actually when i went to school doing some other things that one

of the kids said it and that's when it really resonated with me after that yeah, well for those watching today, we got some watching on today, we got some shots of luther that big day. shots of luther on that big day. and, you know, played he and, you know, he played he played games for played quite a few games for england. he get chance england. he didn't get a chance score many more goals. so i think the thing, you know, i mean, that's to down me. that's down blame my down to me. i don't blame my boss it because you walk out boss for it because you walk out to football pitch and what to that football pitch and what you do, you do it to the best of your ability on that day and certain it just doesn't happen. and the opportunities and for me, the opportunities were didn't were there, but i didn't take them or two games. them in one or two other games. so it comes to an end a bit abruptly. you know, that's abruptly. but you know, that's life, still got your life, but you still got your club career when you made and then you did time but i seem a lad and you went around did it and you know then you and then if you know then you finish up in end at watford. finish up in the end at watford. i did yeah. my third my third stint was there but in the middle went bournemouth, middle i went to bournemouth, former fantastic. former season is fantastic. i mean played think mean i played, i played i think i be 124 games for bournemouth and scored 56 goals. so the ratio was decent as ratio was, was, was decent as well . and that's the one thing

well. and that's the one thing i tried on is that my job as a striker was to score goals and that's what i attempt to do every time i went on the pitch and, you know, ended back, back at watford after third spell and then joined in the coaching team. graeme getting team. graeme taylor getting promotion to premier league for the first time at watford has been of that management been part of that management team as again , i'm, you know, team as again, i'm, you know, a great moment for myself and the club and everybody involved and done, you know, the last few years you've done charity work. yeah, you got all sorts of things and you were, you were recognised last year. unbelievable. i mean i'm by and she's sadly no longer with us. no majesty the queen. yeah. yeah i was, i was awarded an obe . you i was, i was awarded an obe. you want to sort of the last obe. that's right yeah. i was in that last honours list that she, that she did for she passed and. i just couldn't believe it when the letter fell on the mat at home, you know from the cabinet

office because obviously the war in ukraine, it's thought whatever and this letter and i went i what's in that. went i wonder what's in that. i think too i'm old not join the army or whatever. there's something in can't do that i'd. yeah look that's what was yeah look and that's what it was and, was absolutely blown and, i was just absolutely blown away an incredible away by it. it's an incredible honour it's something i'm honour and it's something i'm hugely proud of. and you know, and said spoke about and i've said when i spoke about it often i would be meaning on behalf everyone and that's behalf of everyone and that's the i worked with the people that i worked with and achieve things and helped achieve the things i did. so yeah, it and made it on the nice fantastic and a final thought. lisa you know football today compared 40 years ago. would you rather play now in the premier league with all the money you could make now? would rather have played as you did. i say that when i played and players like myself that was for the golden of what football the golden era of what football was you was about. yes. you know, certain clubs , you know, they certain clubs, you know, they did get paid well. but it did get paid very well. but it was about the football and every team had their own identity. the way they went playing way they went about playing their and, you know, their football and, you know, and to success or and contributed to success or whatever i find whatever they had. i just find football that tries to

football that everybody tries to play football that everybody tries to play game. way city play the game. the way man city plays it and thing i learned playing sport or anything. you never somebody their own never take somebody their own game and too many clubs, i think, try to play football that way when they don't have the players achieve it and know players to achieve it and know it plays in the hands of teams like of man and others because they will always be better than you, yet don't try and copy the original, but it's not going to work now. absolutely. i have to say delightful guest to have on talking by fantastic career and i think i think i tell you what you're part of a very elite batch of people to believe that queen's last honours list is a very, very special thing. in your case, thoroughly deserved. i'm very pleased. your case, thoroughly deserved. i'm very pleased . thank you very i'm very pleased. thank you very much. thank you very much indeed. you you . okay have got a indeed. you you. okay have got a couple of minutes left on the programme. it's time for barrage. the barrage. see what you've got for robert asks suella braverman. looks like she

means business regarding the migrant boats . do you think she migrant boats. do you think she can put a stop to them? do you know what i honestly very often see a political leader that says something and you think, well, they're saying it for a fact. they're saying it because they think that's what the audience want to hear. but do they actually it? think it's actually mean it? i think it's about terrorism and really does mean it. one of her most powerful argument are powerful argument is there are people who legally come in to the country as immigrants. and these days , that's an expensive these days, that's an expensive process . it takes time. it costs process. it takes time. it costs money. you know, why the hell are these young jump the queue coming over the channel. so i don't doubt that since charity in this for one little bit what i doubt is whether our relationship with the european court of human rights and indeed the human rights act, which has taken that european convention in the uk law with our judges. i in the uk law with ourjudges. i just that legally she may not succeed but she sits no question

in my mind. ryan ask. brexit is unfinished . the conservatives unfinished. the conservatives are anything . conservative are anything. conservative immigration is out of control. is another political earthquake brewing. ron the last political earthquake that took place in england and wales i led and it was ten years ago and there were huge gaps. you know, tory labour had become much the same . there had become much the same. there were huge gaps. the difficulty is to have a political earthquake under a first past the post electoral system is bloomin difficult but yes i have to say i honestly believe that beautiful building behind me for those of you watching on telly that , those of you watching on telly that, magnificent palace of westminster , that the people westminster, that the people inside that are detached inside that are more detached from ordinary folk than they've almost been. richard asks , almost ever been. richard asks, is america really concerned about tick tock or simply jealous of its success? it isn't just america . the european just america. the european commission even bbc, are now saying to people, if you have tick on your phone, the tick tock on your phone, the chinese communist look chinese communist party can look at you . hey, so many questions. at you. hey, so many questions. i can't . i've

at you. hey, so many questions. i can't. i've done at you. hey, so many questions. i can't . i've done best. i can't. i've done my best. i hope to answer few. and for me, let's have a look at the all important, whether. hello, i'm craig stowe. and here is your latest forecast of metal as we go for the next few days. a to remain unsettled all of us will see some further spells of rain and often will be quite windy and it often will be quite windy so. here's the situation as we end. huge area of low pressure in dominating the atlantic. this area pressure just area of low pressure just towards the west of ireland will then bring in another spell of wet windy weather across a wet and windy weather across a lot the country we go lot of the country as we go through the course of night. through the course of the night. so you can see this area rain gradually working its way eastward as into small eastward as we go into small hours morning. so hours of wednesday morning. so quite across quite heavy, especially across parts and parts of cumbria and into scotland accompanied by scotland and accompanied by quite wind have got quite a strong wind have got a yellow warning for yellow wind warning in force for scotland into wednesday scotland as we go into wednesday morning. expect a little bit morning. so expect a little bit here. the temperatures here. but note the temperatures a mild night to come across the country. the rain may well take its time to clear very far south—east as we go through wednesday. but for a lot of wales into the midlands actually

a bright start the day but further showers working their way in across england and wales as we go into the afternoon and really scotland and northern really for scotland and northern ireland a really blustery day here we have a mixture of sunshine showers quite large sunshine and showers quite large waves across western waves as well across western areas. just do take note of areas. so just do take note of if living near coast if you are living near coast into wednesday , really much of into wednesday, really much of the much necessarily further spells of rain their way in across the country again turning quite heavy at times may well wake up a few people as we go into the small hours of thursday morning. but with the strength of the wind, the cloud and the rain, again, a fairly mild night to come stay in double to come could stay in double figures across the first half of the uk and into first day. another band of rain and works its way in across the country. but in between we will see some spells of sunshine and where we do see the sunshine? it will still feeling fairly mild, still be feeling fairly mild, with reaching with temperatures reaching the mid—teens southern of the mid—teens across southern of the uk , then into friday and uk, then into friday and saturday really the same really for a lot of the country. but as

we end saturday it does set to turn cota across the north so .

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