that caring circle kangaroo court to others had . boris court to others had. boris johnson doesn't want it referred to as that he was taking it very seriously indeed. did you see it? what seriously indeed. did you see it.7 what did you think? what it? what did you think? what will be the outcome of today's goings on? do you think it will just be, say sorry and off you go. could it result in a suspension? your thoughts on all of that? do you care as well? i found that a very key question. i did find it very difficult to care about all of the slices of cakes and glasses of one at the

time . i try very hard to care time. i try very hard to care now, but do you care how interested in the goings on of party are you today at the so—called windsor framework? why it got put through on the votes in parliament? should it have done? one man joins me tonight who in case you're sitting there thinking to yourself, i don't know what the windsor framework is anymore. lost the will is anymore. i've lost the will to when the northern to live when the northern ireland protocol, habib, ireland protocol, ben habib, he's all to he's going to explain it all to us why it matters. is it us and why it matters. is it a good thing for the uk or not? and again, it's the judgement of people who know they're talking about best economic about some of the best economic experts country . experts in this country. inflation didn't go down today. no, it went up . i can't help but no, it went up. i can't help but wonder you after we got to the point now where so many businesses are just being greedy, raising their prices way beyond their cost increases. your thoughts on that? and did you see rishi sunak ? he's you see rishi sunak? he's finally i think it only took him about 150 days. they finally released its tax details . should released its tax details. should he have had to the. i don't

think, sir, do you? we'll get into all of that and more. but before we do so, let's bring ourselves up to speed with tonight's latest headlines . tonight's latest headlines. michelle, thank you and good evening to you. the top stories tonight on gb news. well, as you've been hearing, boris johnson has told the privileges committee hand on heart. he did not lie to mps over partygate. the former prime minister says although he takes full responsibility for the gatherings in downing street dunng gatherings in downing street during lockdown , his statements during lockdown, his statements in the house of commons were made in good faith. he went on to criticise the committee of bias in its investigation and the chair, harriet harman , of the chair, harriet harman, of being prejudicial, suggesting the proceedings were extremely peculiar , really must insist on peculiar, really must insist on this point . people who say that this point. people who say that we were partying in lockdown simply do not know what they are talking about . people who say talking about. people who say

that that event was a purely social gathering are quite wrong. my purpose there was to thank staff to motivate them in what had been a very difficult time and what was also a very difficult day in which the cabinet secretary had just resigned . meanwhile, rishi sunak resigned. meanwhile, rishi sunak has seen an off has has seen off rather a backbench revolt by tory hardliners opposed to his brexit deal with northern ireland. 22 conservative rebels including boris johnson, liz truss voted against the stormont break regulations. the key elements of the windsor framework aims to give the stormont assembly a greater say on how eu rules apply to the province , namely the stormont province, namely the stormont break . the vote was passed with break. the vote was passed with 515 votes to 29, with labour and other opposition parties backing it. now, as michelle was just saying, the prime minister has released his long awaited personal tax returns showing he

paid £432,000 in tax in the 2021 to 22 financial year. rishi sunak published his personal tax documents covering the last four years. it follows the commitment he first made during his tory leadership campaign last summer . now the rmt union has suspended strikes due to be held on the 30th of march in the 1st of april. that comes as discussions continue between the union and the rail delivery group. in the long running dispute over pay , jobs and dispute over pay, jobs and conditions . the labour leader conditions. the labour leader says crime is out of control and people are paying the price for a government that never takes responsibility . speaking in the responsibility. speaking in the house of commons , sir keir house of commons, sir keir starmer challenged the prime minister, asking if he accepted the findings of baroness casey's report in full. she found the metropolitan police to be institutionally racist , institutionally racist, misogynistic and homophobe . beck misogynistic and homophobe. beck but rishi sunak says only the

conservatives can be trusted on policing . what did his shadow policing. what did his shadow policing. what did his shadow policing police, his shadow policing police, his shadow policing minister say? prison doesn't prevent crime. well it tells you everything that you need to know about the labour party. you can't trust them to keep britain safe. mr. speaker, he needs to get out of westminster , get out of westminster, get out of kensington . and i don't mean to kensington. and i don't mean to malibu, to the streets of britain. you go there and tell people it's all fine and see what reaction you guys . well, what reaction you guys. well, baroness casey told mps today that if the met can't change, it must be completely reformed . i must be completely reformed. i feel despot , to ensure that the feel despot, to ensure that the metropol is in police service and anybody that can hold them to account actually does get them to change. and if they don't change, if the combination of new leadership , the of new leadership, the combination of different support, different powers, a new committee. i don't think we should leave it forever. if

something can't be changed, if it can't be fixed, then reform it can't be fixed, then reform it completely well away from westminster, scotland's first minister has issued an apology to mothers who are forced to give up their children for adoption . in one of her last adoption. in one of her last acts as scottish leader, nicola sturgeon condemned the practise which is estimated to have forced 60,000 women to part with their children during the 5060s and seventies. ms. sturgeon addressed msps in hollyrood as victims and campaigners watched government and the parliament. we can sit the record straight . we can sit the record straight. we can sit the record straight. we can sit the record straight. we can acknowledge the terrible wrongs that were done and we can see with one voice that we are sorry. so today, as first minister, on behalf of the scottish government, i see direct plea to the mothers who had their babies taken away from them to the sons and the daughters who were separated from their parents, to the fathers who were denied the

rights and to the families who have lived with the legacy for the decades of pain that you have suffered. i offer today a sincere , heartfelt and sincere, heartfelt and unreserved apology. we are sorry. no words can ever make up for what has happened to you. but i hope this apology will bnng but i hope this apology will bring you some measure of solace . it is the very least you deserve, and it is long overdue . nicola sturgeon . now the . nicola sturgeon. now the prince of wales has made a surprise visit to poland today to thank uk troops involved in the ukraine war. prince william praised the cooperation of british and polish troops who've been working together to support the people of ukraine and their freedom. he met with the polish defence minister as well as soldiers , to personally thank soldiers, to personally thank them for working together . 33 them for working together. 33 people have been injured after a ship toppled over in a dry dock

in edinburgh. a major incident was declared this morning when the vessel, which belongs to the microsoft co—founder paul allen, became dislodged and keeled over at an angle of 45 degrees. 21 of those injured have been taken to hospital for further treatment and. and lastly, surging food pnces and. and lastly, surging food prices unexpectedly pushed inflation up last month , inflation up last month, increasing fears of another rise increasing fears of another rise in interest rates. the office for national statistics says it's a result of higher prices and growth in restaurants as well as clothing and food , which well as clothing and food, which hit its rate in more than 45 years. that was partly driven by a shortage of vegetables , too. a shortage of vegetables, too. the bank of england make their next interest rate decision tomorrow. full coverage right here. gb news. and i'm back in an hour with more news. back to

. michelle thanks for that. hollywood on michelle dewberry keeping you company right through till 7:00 tonight along side by two of my favourites fresh from doncaster on budget day. so they are been happy to see you first property group and now a member of the reform party . i'll be touching reform party. i'll be touching upon that before the end of the programme and the political commentator joe phillips. programme and the political commentatorjoe phillips. we had a right, good time , didn't we. a right, good time, didn't we. don't it was really fun. it don't say it was really fun. it was lovely atmosphere . it was was a lovely atmosphere. it was if don't know what an if you don't know what an f we're talking about, you missed out catch up. where out when you can catch up. where are going next? well, that's are you going next? well, that's are you going next? well, that's a mystery. it's like a mystery to the band back on the to get the band back on the road. yes and if you've not road. yes. yes and if you've not been to one of our live shows, you should go out to what i would call a working club. would call a working man's club. and not very and it's probably not very pc these the audience these days. the audience get involved, get involved. we involved, we get involved. we have good show. i really have a right good show. i really very enjoy and it's nice very much enjoy it and it's nice to have you in the studio. to have you back in the studio. keeping company. it great keeping me company. it was great there, way, and i just there, by the way, and i just want to thank everyone who

turned up the that day. it made us this is what us look. it this is this is what i say about ben. i call him the housewives favourite, right? they all love you. that was all. got i play your got it. i didn't play your little wink when i was in doncaster, but it's so well managed. didn't say it's like managed. i didn't say it's like the kind of man, but everyone , the kind of man, but everyone, you you sense he does you know, when you sense he does it a nice man like it all, marry a nice man like that with man. what that with good man. that's what we about you, ben. we all think about you, ben. anyway, going on a anyway, i'm going off on a massive tangents, all for myself, but contractually, you know so not know the drill. so it is not just about us. it is very much about you at home as well. get in touch, gbviews@gbnews.uk is the email or you can tweet me gb news. use lots of you've been getting in touch already. i want to talk to you about the inflation. it was expected to go down. it's gone up. what does that mean to and what is that mean to you and what is causing i think a lot of it causing it? i think a lot of it now is greed from business owners. and i say that as a capitalist, as capital is broken . of capitalism , rishi . speaking of capitalism, rishi sunak, released . it's not sunak, he's released. it's not his tax return. it's like a summary from his accountant. he

basically tells us his end of fortune and is paid a fortune . fortune and is paid a fortune. all of that on tax . but so what? all of that on tax. but so what? what is it got to do with all this fellow's money? yes. he's ficher this fellow's money? yes. he's richer than us, but i should hope so. it's like i want him to be exceptional as the prime minister, we'll get into whether or not all of that matters as well. i we'll talk about the windsor framework. luckily we got ben habib explain it. so got ben habib to explain it. so everyone, you're bored everyone, in case you're bored of what it means and of it by now, what it means and what the goings on in parliament today because it did pass by a significant majority, i have to say, expected anyway, all say, as i expected anyway, all eyes on boris johnson did eyes today on boris johnson did you see any of that kind of privilege committee grilling? it was supposed to be bound to about 5 hours. i think it ended up taking about three that rolled out about to the end. so i bet you was relieved to get off fairly. it seemed to play quite down the line, seemed to take it quite serious. so that was drama to report. and was no main drama to report. and it refers, doesn't it, to it all refers, doesn't it, to whether he knowingly whether or not he knowingly misled parliament throughout the party era . let us cut to the

party era. let us cut to the chase, joe, i'll start with you. what did you make to it all? well, he was better behaved than i expected him to be. he was quite combative and he started off, i think, by trying to make some jibes about the fact that harriet harman, who chaired the committee, had said previously before she was appointed to chair the committee , that she chair the committee, that she thought he'd lied to parliament. you know , and but he was you know, and but he was relatively respectful . there relatively respectful. there were a couple of times when you could see he was getting rattled , and he clearly isn't comfortable without his audience of acolytes and the sort of the cheering and booing and oh, he's just boris . cheering and booing and oh, he's just boris. he sounded like a half wit, to be perfectly honest . the half wit, to be perfectly honest .theidea half wit, to be perfectly honest . the idea that the prime minister of this country would walk, you know, into a room or into a garden of downing street and see a group of people with bottles and trestle tables and

not think , hmm, there seems to not think, hmm, there seems to be a party going on. having spent every evening on the television telling the rest of us how to behave, it just beggars belief. he seemed to want to blame his advisers. he's the prime minister who was the prime minister ? you have to prime minister? you have to decide . you know, that's the old decide. you know, that's the old adage, advises advise. ministers decide . you don't have to be a decide. you don't have to be a rocket scientist to work out . rocket scientist to work out. there were parties going on. and surely you would have. i can't imagine. i was just saying to ben before we came in the studio, you know, i can't imagine theresa may john major, tony blair, gordon brown, david cameron or anybody else not saying what on earth is going on. well, keir starmer didn't seem to have said what on earth is going on when he was offering his little meetings shindig , his little meetings shindig, curry beer. so it's not silly. but anyway, in my mind, what i just heard you say then is essentially you think boris is guilty as charged? well, i think, you know, the public will

have made their minds up. i think what is more significant and i know we're moving on to northern ireland in a minute, the un, denis macshane just said it patrick's programme. you it on patrick's programme. you know, actually boris know, that actually boris johnson and liz truss went through the lobby against the government . but there were only government. but there were only 28, 27 other people with them and i think , you know, we're not and i think, you know, we're not going to know the results of this privileges committee until after the local elections in early may . so there'll be a lot early may. so there'll be a lot of picking over analysis of body language and all of that sort of stuff in the papers tomorrow and shows like this. but, you know, i think most people have made up their minds. it's what the committee recommend what should committee recommend. what should happen yeah, i can happen to him? yeah, i can assure i will be assure you, i will not be sitting there over body sitting there picking over body language and all the rest of out. think of anything modelled by ben habib. your thoughts on the going. i mean just go the going. well, i mean just go back to basics. why why is him having party in portland? and having a party in portland? and the reason it's important for me is it was a law that he put

is that it was a law that he put in place that stripped the nafion in place that stripped the nation of its civil liberties, brought the economy to its knees, and damaged the health and welfare of millions of people across the country. loved ones had to die and so on. on their own so this was at one their own and so this was at one level, you can kind of roll your eyes and say was boris having a party? big deal? but actually fundamentally , there was fundamentally, there was something very wrong with having a party when the nation was going through what it went through and the long term consequences, which were now experiencing, you know, from lockdown . so i do take the lockdown. so i do take the matter seriously and it turns not on whether he misled parliament. he accepts he misled parliament. it's whether he intentionally did say whether he knowingly did so and i'm afraid i find him wanting that because he's hiding behind his advisers, saying, well, i was told that all of you know , it wasn't a all of you know, it wasn't a party. all the rules were followed. well, you're the prime minister and you know, if there's a cake there and there's lots of booze and people are

laughing and joking, it's kind of a party. and i don't really buy the excuse that he had to morally boost his staff at this very difficult time. they're working 24 seven. we were all going through a very difficult time and the vast majority of us didn't break the rules in order to get feeling better . i didn't break the rules in order to get feeling better. i think a number of us did , and i may have number of us did, and i may have broken the rules, frankly, for all i know, the rules were complex and daft, but, you know, do we need to move on as a nafion?| do we need to move on as a nation? i think we need to move on from partygate. has he lost his political capital? as joe mentioned, i think he has. i don't think there's any coming back for boris johnson from today and largely because he didn't carry more people through the no lobby on that vote. he was isolated . and i find it was isolated. and i find it peculiar we're going to get to the windsor framework, but i find it peculiar that boris johnson, who constructed the northern ireland protocol, which is essentially the same as the windsor framework , should vote windsor framework, should vote no, having put the northern

ireland protocol in place , ireland protocol in place, having had an 80 seat majority with which he could have unwound it, he didn't do it. you walked through the no lobby and very few people followed him. and that says to me that boris johnson is a political forces over. johnson is a political forces over . does he care? probably over. does he care? probably not. he's made over 5 million quid in the last five months. yeah boris has landed on his feet he looks like i say feet and he looks like i say looks like a much more rested. he died. when you see him today, looks would you and looks way less so would you and i making 5 million quid i would making 5 million quid churning out speeches and things not very true in parliament. very often. he hasn't even made the paid the speeches he's been paid upfront some of them. upfront for some of them. you know, earnings. and know, exceptional earnings. and one things, you know, one of the things, you know, i can't help but just land this points and make some of you is groan but when i watch all these goings them goings on i found them ridiculous today and i found them at the time them ridiculous at the time i said thing none of said like help but thing none of you law in these offices got and you law in these offices got and you were not frightened of covid. so while we were being

told at 5:00 on the night or whatever it was these next slide please ridiculousness. we were being made to feel that we literally were going to kill each other, that we were probably going to die ourselves . this was the worst thing to happen and god happen to this country and god knows long. and therefore knows how long. and therefore everyone to and let everyone had to say it. and let me lots with detail me say you lots with the detail feels closer to you than anyone else. you not afraid . you else. you were not afraid. you were getting together and i don't care really, if you want to call it a party or a work do oven to call it a party or a work do over. i don't really care quite honestly about this. i think it's a bit of the right strategy. right. strategy. absolutely right. you're right. but but you're absolutely right. but but benn's point about, know, benn's point about, you know, bofis benn's point about, you know, boris saying was my boris johnson saying it was my duty, know, to boost morale. duty, you know, to boost morale. well, needed boosting well, who needed morale boosting more than old people care more than old people in care homes? well, not the 8 million british citizens who are locked up on and paid. you know, people working in the health service s it's just appalling to he's got no self—awareness and no understanding of all the things that we all agree on, you know,

that, yes , you frightening the that, yes, you frightening the wits out of everybody else. you're imposing rules you don't even understand and you don't recognise a social gathering ring in a building because it's an old building with higgledy piggledy an old building with higgledy piggledy rooms. what you think the outcome of all of this is going to be then? well, i think it will melt away into nothingness. i mean, there is a possible 80 that the committee will sanction him and suspend him more than in him for more than ten days, in which case could be a which case that could be a recall oxbridge and he's recall in oxbridge and he's sitting on a wafer thin majority . i stand against him if . i might stand against him if he to stand so as he decides to stand again so as to help us. oh, break in news. so i want to go to about this whole reform thing as well. before the end of the programme, i really caught my interest . but i really caught my interest. but do you reckon 10% because 10% turn out basically to trick it out reckon that's out? do you reckon that's a amount of people would. well, i think he's only bound to resign at that point as an mp. i think it's horrible. oh, i love say it's horrible. oh, i love to say sorry when you say honest people . so i think it's unlikely. but so say you think so what do you

reckon the outcome is going to be then? do you reckon we're going to have this ten day plus suspension and the situation would be school saying, would just be in school saying, oh, it be. you think we oh, i think it be. you think we are. i think there's a high probability a plus, probability of a ten day plus, he i think he'll he'll he says. but i think he'll he'll try and fight it. i think you think you will. i think if they say it was reckless, it might, you which is not as you know, it, which is not as bad deliberate, intentional. bad as deliberate, intentional. but if they say it was reckless, which i think he would then five, he then face it five, he would then face it by—election, if he fights, he'd have. mean. yes, i know. have. but i mean. yes, i know. but i think he would fight the findings of the committee. but he mean, they are the he can't. i mean, they are the ultimate . and then ultimate authority. and then around go at dawn. around and around we go at dawn. one of my says this is one of my view is, says this is a useless waste time at a useless waste of time at taxpayers expense. the whole community can buy an entire committee if a person no nonsense reason is you basically saying it's people with a vendetta. you're calling it utterly disgusting and says all these people telling you to get over and move on a part of the

problems we have in the uk. he's right and he's right. i agree. tim says i do not care about any of this as far more important things to worry about, such as russia china, richard says russia and china, richard says yes , i do care about all of yes, i do care about all of this. it shows the absolute arrogance of the entire number 10 machine under boris johnson . 10 machine under boris johnson. and graham calls a pathetic, vindictive shower a kangaroo court. borisjohnson vindictive shower a kangaroo court. boris johnson said that he didn't like people calling it a kangaroo court. so at least that's what he's saying in public. anyway, doreen's said it was the whole thing was hilarious. jacki weaver should have been chairing it or the countries will be laughing at this. and also this is not and not the last you've seen of bofis not the last you've seen of boris and yet you make the same point that i do in terms of people were how come so many people were how come so many people were how come so many people were not so afraid of covid when we were being terrified, run says waste of terrified, run says a waste of time . most working people and time. most working people and non workers for that matter. i haven't got time for this nonsense. it has no impact on our lives at all. and deb says

you're on your own, your own, your own, your own. what a smokescreen. she says , to smokescreen. she says, to distract us all from other issues. perfect. interesting day today, then, isn't it? for rishi sunak perhaps to land his tax affairs? i want your thoughts on that. by the way, do you really think the prime minister of this country should have to show us these endings and the tax that he paid ? is that of our he paid? is that any of our business? that affect your business? does that affect your view a prime minister view of him as a prime minister or not? give me your thoughts on that. and also after the break, i want to get into goings i want to get into the goings on at so called windsor at the so called windsor framework , which passed by a framework, which passed by a huge amount , framework, which passed by a huge amount, by the framework, which passed by a huge amount , by the way, framework, which passed by a huge amount, by the way, in parliament today. should it have done does mean and done what does it all mean and how to affect our how is it going to affect our lives going all of that lives going forward? all of that and into .

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tonight. ben habib , the business tonight. ben habib, the business man, a member of reform party , man, a member of reform party, joins does the political joins me, as does the political commentator phillips. now, commentator, joe phillips. now, there's been much talk, hasn't there, about so—called there, about the so—called northern protocol the northern ireland protocol the windsor framework and all the rest of it. lots of focus on the vote that was going through this afternoon about whether or not i mean, all of these things you have, we spend. so much time pontificating when it goes through, what it goes through, who will rebel, how many people will will it mean will rebel, what will it mean for will mean for russia? what will it mean for russia? what will it mean for and all the rest of for boris and all the rest of it? anyway, the upshot of it is that windsor framework that the windsor framework passed. today and it passed passed. now today and it passed by margin. let me get my by a huge margin. let me get my facts right. 515 votes passed. it to 29 against 22 tories vote against six. do you do you and andrew bridgen as well . so andrew bridgen as well. so that's the total. that's where we stand first and foremost. right then because i worry that a lot of people, they don't really understand a what it is and b, why it's so important.

you are the guru on these kind of matters. so a quick summary for any of you, is that in that camp, the reason it's so important and it's not just a northern ireland issue is because it attacks the founding versions of the constitution of the united kingdom . when we the united kingdom. when we voted to leave the eu initially , the eu had no problem with the customs border on the island of ireland. in fact, there's an eu paper saying it's perfectly capable to produce a smart border to trade across that border, by the way, is less than 1% of the trade between the united kingdom as a whole, with the eu, it's a rounding error in trade, but they alighted on it as a mechanism to put a grappling hook into the side of the united kingdom , which is the the united kingdom, which is the northern ireland protocol. and through the protocol they basically took political control of northern ireland. and what i mean by political control is that laws in northern ireland are made by an eu legislature

and enforced by an eu court. and once they took control of those laws and they put the border down the irish sea, where there's much more trade between great britain and north and northern ireland, they would then able to economically try and capture north. so politically they captured it with their laws . economically, with their laws. economically, they tried to capture it by disrupting trade with great britain and the idea behind that was to divert trade to the repubuc was to divert trade to the republic and economically and politically , therefore take politically, therefore take control of northern ireland. faced with that, the entire united kingdom has two options. one, let northern ireland go, or to align with the eu , align our to align with the eu, align our own regulatory environment with the eu so that we neuter as much as possible that border down the irish sea. so the northern ireland protocol was an attack on the constitution of the united kingdom, and it was it

was also a huge attack on brexit. it was to prevent brexit ever from happening, which is why i made the protocol the centrepiece of my fight for the last three years. and one of the reasons i've joined reform is because i could see that i'm losing that fight. we are losing that fight. and today, parliament is led by the prime minister has put possibly a final nail in, in the coffin of the of brexit and of the integrity of the united kingdom, the union between great britain and northern ireland. and the reason i say they've done that is because they have set in stone today all the legislation that was in place already in northern ireland. there's never any way now to unpick it . any way now to unpick it. northern ireland will be subject to all the laws eu laws to which it is subject now. the mechanism to get rid of them is gone.

they've introduced something called a stormont brake, which ostensibly gives stormont, which is the assembly in northern ireland, the opportunity to pull a handbrake on any legislation. new legislate it doesn't like, but the break doesn't work. i can go into details if you like. it doesn't work . and so what? it doesn't work. and so what? we've got is a full claim to green lanes for trade between great britain and northern ireland. it's not a green lane. it's not frictionless . you have it's not frictionless. you have to get trust to trade a status. you've got to fill in forms to comply with the green line and the eu has the right unilag really to withdraw the green lane at its discretion . so we lane at its discretion. so we are going to live as a nation in perpetual fear of northern ireland being ripped away from the uk . so what's your thoughts the uk. so what's your thoughts on all of this? i think it is a good thing that this has gone through. i mean, obviously i stand on a completely different

platform to ban as far as brexit is concerned . but i think this is concerned. but i think this is concerned. but i think this is probably the least worst opfion is probably the least worst option . the stormont brake will option. the stormont brake will only work if stormont begins to sit again and i think the people of northern ireland really deserve better than this. and there really needs to be a bit of pragmatism now and i think rishi sunak actually politically for him, this is this is important. he's got it through. and for the reasons we've already discussed, boris johnson didn't get his to the door. adonng didn't get his to the door. adoring masses following him through the no lobby for rishi sunak. through the no lobby for rishi sunak . it's a success. and it's sunak. it's a success. and it's not just how it is seen domestically . internationally, domestically. internationally, it's very important because it means that the temperature has been lowered . we've already seen been lowered. we've already seen that he's managed to create a better relationship with europe , and particularly with president macron and ursula of

underline, he's he's a different kettle of fish. he may have done that by giving up on the united kingdom. well, exactly the point i was about to make, because there'll be people at home like they'll shouting at their they'll be shouting at their screens listen screens now saying like, listen to saying. you're to what you're saying. you're almost that, you know, by almost saying that, you know, by all purposes and all intents and purposes and a part the united kingdom has part of the united kingdom has in many ways now been annexed by a political union the a political union that the majority of people in this country leave. then country voted to leave. and then you it's really you say, well, oh, it's really good, making so on good, is making it so much on and ash on the land and and ash live on the land and yeah because we are we need to have a better relationship with europe or out europe whether we're in or out of we need to have a of europe. we need to have a better relation at the expense of the uk sovereignty. well it's not the expense of the uk. so not at the expense of the uk. so when then would you when it isn't then would you tolerate tolerate tolerate would you tolerate london being subject to eu laws and adjudicated by an eu court? we wouldn't tolerate it would normandy with the french tolerate normandy being subject tolerate normandy being subject to british law? no way. but this is an affront to our sovereignty and the integrity of our

country. and ben, without , you country. and ben, without, you know, going back over, you know, 2016 again and again, the real problem was that it was always going to be a problem with northern. no it wasn't my see all what i said by explaining that northern ireland was not an issue . the eu issued a report in issue. the eu issued a report in 2017th november 2017. declare ring the border could easily be managed on the island of ireland, using smart technology and if they can and here's the life from the eu they now claim that they can make the border between great britain and northern ireland more or less invisible. well, why not do the same for a border on the island of ireland , which separates two of ireland, which separates two countries, two different currencies , two different tax currencies, two different tax rates, two different jurisdictions, and where trade is one fifth of what it is between great britain and northern ireland, they choose to put the border down the irish sea because they want defeat sea because they want to defeat brexit, to punish the brexit, they want to punish the united kingdom and in the pursuit of harmony with the

political neighbour, our government has given in, and it is the beginning of the end of brexit and it is political weakness that i have never, ever seen in my life . and we should seen in my life. and we should all, as british citizens, be fighting this tooth and nail as a matter of principle. the uk is under attack. make no mistake of it , and our under attack. make no mistake of it, and our parliament is complicit . it well, that's very complicit. it well, that's very strong words and i'm going to bnngin strong words and i'm going to bring in the audience and i also want to come back to you on that. what do you make to that? do you think, to go do you agree with ben? there's a lot of strong feeling out there. lee says is a sell out. michel, says this is a sell out. michel, europe now runs northern ireland and says the people of northern ireland were not consulted on the imposition of the windsor framework, nor will they ever have opportunity to change have the opportunity to change things polls. talk things at the polls. talk about taxation representation taxation without representation . the unionists in northern ireland have been betrayed by this government. this is the end of the union, says . i mean, of the union, says. i mean, there's such a strong feeling ,

there's such a strong feeling, adrian says. i have nothing but contempt for parliament now. they have essentially kicked and frozen northern ireland out of the uk. let me ask you this. are you in northern ireland? how do you in northern ireland? how do you feel today ? i especially you feel today? i especially want to hear about your thoughts, your feelings , your thoughts, your feelings, your views tonight on this issue. get in touch. gb views gavin used uk is how you can reach me and i'll be bringing some more of your thoughts in before the end of the programme. when i come back from my i also want to from my break, i also want to talk about inflation talk to you about inflation because all the great and the good of the world of economics essentially were saying inflation down. it inflation was coming down. it did not. rose. inflation was coming down. it did not. rose . why? what is did not. it rose. why? what is to blame ? blame business to blame? blame business profiteering at this stage? and i say that as a capitalist, am i wrong? do you agree with me ? wrong? do you agree with me? your thoughts and i'll see you into .

hi michelle dewberry keeping your company till 7:00 tonight. ben habib, the businessman on member of the reform party, keeps company, as does the political commentator , thatcher political commentator, thatcher phillips. i was just asking in the break to the panel whether or not we there is a brexit fatigue going on now. people are just a little bit tired of it, bored of it, perhaps confused, deliberately, suggest bored of it, perhaps confused, deliberat of , suggest bored of it, perhaps confused, deliberatof, details suggest bored of it, perhaps confused, deliberatof, details and|ggest by some of the details and observed out . many of my inbox observed out. many of my inbox are saying you've got boris fatigue. now leave him alone, packitin fatigue. now leave him alone, pack it in bashing him. you're saying it's a witch hunt against and the rest of it. you are and all the rest of it. you are asking, please, can we all change the record? i'm asking as well. to the well. when it comes to the windsor framework, who of you out there are in northern ireland? thomas says , i live in ireland? thomas says, i live in northern ireland, must show and i am ashamed of what the british government has done to the proud people country. sorry, people of my country. sorry, please can you read this out? i have. there you go. thomas, is there anyone else in northern ireland or a margaret. i am in and northern ireland and i feel

like we've being thrown into the bus just to appease eu. the conservative, conservative and unionist party . i don't think so unionist party. i don't think so . that's or actually that says that keep your thoughts coming in lots of people agreeing with you, ben . they always do. i know you, ben. they always do. i know they do , particularly on this they do, particularly on this issue. and there's huge amount of strong sentiment here as well. one of you is saying , why well. one of you is saying, why don't you come take a bus , come don't you come take a bus, come to northern ireland, drive around and talk to us all. you are offering to drive that post. that's not a bad idea, actually. that's not a bad idea, actually. that could be our next live show, our life on the road in northern ireland. do it in belfast. yeah, why not? lovely. yeah keep thoughts coming yeah keep your thoughts coming in. a lot of strong in. i mean, a lot of strong feeling lots you are feeling here. lots of you are saying that you feel that northern ireland has been sold out by this current government . out by this current government. one of you of today's day of shame for our government. today's a of shame. they've taken the knee to supranational institutions just to placate them at the expense of the rights of british citizens . and

rights of british citizens. and that's unacceptable. but we have got to have we've got to move on. yeah, but from the dissolve yeah but you see what the eu is counting on that mentality. but we've got to move on and surrender for you know, and i totally respect your and everybody who voted for brexit, but an awful lot of people do you just i you show. but an awful lot of people do you just i you show . yes, i do i you just i you show. yes, i do i do respect people's views but i think a lot of people were duped and it was absolutely clear that there wasn't a plan on so many things . and i think, you know things. and i think, you know what? either you whether it was northern ireland, whether it is trade, whether it's farming, whether it's freedom of musicians to move through europe, it's horizon , europe, whether it's horizon, science, things. there were so many things that were not. and i've said this before, you know, it wasn't an oven ready deal because boris johnson hadn't even the chicken up. and even plucked the chicken up. and i think , you know, the chicken i think, you know, the chicken was off. i think it had it was still running around, i think. but, you know, i think the

people voted for all sorts of understandable reasons. but the details had not been worked through and there wasn't anything. and we now , you know, anything. and we now, you know, all these years on six years on, i think there is a sense of brexit fatigue . and also we've brexit fatigue. and also we've got to build better relations because we've now got since brexit, a war raging in ukraine, which is, you know, in europe . which is, you know, in europe. we've got well, we've done a lot more for that war than we. yeah, yeah. and we've got you all keep we've got a whole load of other problems that are, you know, wide economic, environmental . wide economic, environmental. and i think, you know, we need to stop using the old brexit arguments for and move on. i mean, this isn't a brexit argument. i'm talking about an all out constitutional attack on the united kingdom by a foreign power that's happening here. do not misunderstand it. they may not misunderstand it. they may not be any guns being fired, but what they're using is political sway . get their way in the

sway. get their way in the united kingdom. 100 years ago this would have resulted in a war. what they tried do 100 years ago would have resulted in a shooting war. but we've actually given up on 1.8 million british citizens without a single shot being fired and our parliament should hold our head in shame. and some of those 1.8 million people are getting in touch. carol says, i live in northern what ben northern ireland. and what ben is 100% right. this is is saying is 100% right. this is a sad we the people a very sad and we the people have no, no say. linda says as a brexit voter in northern ireland, why has the uk sold us out in this way? our votes counted when it suits the uk government, but now they have betrayed us. john. i'm in northern ireland and i'm disgusted and fearful about what this will do for our province . this will do for our province. what is our future now without a say in how we are governed? i mean, i can go on and on. david i live in northern ireland, consider myself british as a complete sell—out graham i'm a proud unionist from northern ireland. i'm disgusted at the vote once again vote today, which once again froze northern ireland under the bus. i'm angry people like joe

phillips preparing to prepare, to sacrifice us for their political objectives . and political objectives. and lastly, billy, i live in northern ireland and what the conservatives have done is sell the unionist people out. we suffered the troubles. we lost loved ones for our own british government to hand over to europe like this on a plate. it is a total disgrace. wow. the sense of feeling and anger that i'm getting. dare i ask ? i think i'm getting. dare i ask? i think i'm getting. dare i ask? i think i might know the answer, but is there anyone in northern ireland watching, listening tonight that agrees with what's going on? that's suppose what's the verse and the winds out framework today? does such a person . i'm today? does such a person. i'm always intrigued if you do get in touch gbviews@gbnews.uk . in touch gbviews@gbnews.uk. speaking of moving, i do want to squeeze another topic in before i finish the show. if i may, is inflation because there's been so many talks and rumblings about the inflation figures . about the inflation figures. we've been going on it now for months and months. today was anticipate that these figures, the cpi figures , would actually the cpi figures, would actually have declined and it hasn't it

went the opposite increase the cpi is now a 10.4. just to give you a little sense of perspective, everyone, two years ago it was apparently at 0.4, lots of these costings. now it's things like women's clothes, eating out food, restaurant pnces eating out food, restaurant prices and all the rest of it. i've gotten to a point now and i say this with regret as a capitalist, because i do believe in capitalism. i think a lot of companies now have been out and out chances. a lot of business owners, they are raising their pnces owners, they are raising their prices way beyond the increases in their costs. i think it's shameful . i think it's wrong. shameful. i think it's wrong. i think it's dangerous because what you're going to see potentially is an interest rate rise, which when you've got the worry banking sector at worry in the banking sector at the in my humble the moment, that in my humble opinion, i'm not an economist, but i would that is the but i would say that is the wrong move and think this wrong move now. and i think this is well, i think you're is wrong. well, i think you're you're right, michel. you're probably right, michel. you know, i don't think any of the supermarket chains the major supermarket chains have losses in fact, have reported losses in fact, many of them have had record

breaking profits and what is really shocking and most people watching will know this all too well in food inflation is 18, which is absolutely terrifying . which is absolutely terrifying. i mean, that's the highest it's been for 40 something years. and the core rate of inflation, which takes out energy and food prices, is up to over 6. so it's going in completely wrong direction. you're absolutely right. bank of england tomorrow will decide whether or not to raise interest rates. there is, despite everybody telling us there's nothing to worry about. there great uncertainty and there is great uncertainty and a bit nervousness around the bit of nervousness around the banking because of the banking sector because of the collapses and savings of banks in america and credit suisse. but i think, you know, farmers and suppliers are not getting extra money. supermarkets whacking it on. interestingly, it's lots of little things like we know we're all seeing an increase in our council tax from

next month . it's your mobile next month. it's your mobile phone contract. it's little deals like tesco's earlier this week that their rewards card is no longer for one. it's two for one. boots are doing the same . one. boots are doing the same. so all of those little things that help are being gradually taken away . and meanwhile the taken away. and meanwhile the profits are going up and there are shortage of things on the shelves. we need to think a lot more carefully about food in this country. we need to think about where it comes from, what we can grow ourselves . we need we can grow ourselves. we need to farmers so that we to support farmers so that we are more sustainable in are much more sustainable in producing our own crops and we need to stop building over the countryside. and, you know, absolutely make it so that it's easier for people to get affordable food. indeed and also alongside me is ben habib, a businessman . so i'm interested businessman. so i'm interested in your thoughts on this topic. i thought also, you know the drill. it's about you at home as well. i want your thoughts on

this topic. are you a capitalist? what do you think when you look at things right now? is this all fair i love? war, profit making or is it going a little bit too far? your thoughts, ben's thoughts on that topic coming up in 2 topic as well, coming up in 2 minutes. go anywhere .

hello, everybody. welcome back. before the break, we were getting into the topic of inflation, widely expected to have decreased today. it's in fact increases . cpi is now at fact increases. cpi is now at 10.4. why on personally blaming it on greedy business owners and i say it reluctantly as a capitalist , i i say it reluctantly as a capitalist, i think there's a time and a place and now people are bordering on a responsible profit taking your thoughts as a business man, but i'm reluctant to draw any conclusion from one month's figure 10.4. admittedly is the opposite direction of

where we expected it to go and as you said, joe, the underlying when you strip out food and other seasonal volatile consumer goods, you end up still with a core inflation that's higher than we want it to be. but i'm sure your inflation is coming down this year. it'll burn itself out partly because you measure it on a 12 month basis. and as we go into the future , and as we go into the future, our base is higher because inflation hit us. you know, last year and so inflation will come down. think the opr is likely to be right in its projection of around point 9% for the end of the year ? i don't agree with you the year? i don't agree with you that it's profiteering. you know, the areas that have gone up , restaurants, for example , up, restaurants, for example, hospitality sector were hit very hard in lockdown. they've had big breakdown in the labour that serves restaurants . they've had serves restaurants. they've had to pay up to get staff . so to pay up to get staff. so i think they are charging it on. i do agree prices have gone up

dramatically. what is remarkable is that restaurants are still quite full, you know, well , i quite full, you know, well, i often say this and then i'll get smacked for being out of touch . smacked for being out of touch. but wherever i go , i seem to see but wherever i go, i seem to see packed car parks, packed restaurants, packed , this restaurants, packed, this packed. and i do pack shop and i think, well, where's , where's think, well, where's, where's the, where's the money coming from? and i but the bigger, the bigger thing that's really worrying and is what's worrying me now and is what's happening in banking market happening in the banking market and over 13 years financial and over over 13 years financial institute have been encouraged by governments to stop investing in shares, stop investing in property, stop investing in anything other than government bonds. indeed and so all of these financial situations have bought government bonds . so when bought government bonds. so when interest rates go up as we saw with sbp , as we saw with the with sbp, as we saw with the pension funds, when, you know, when liz truss tried to do something remotely conservative, you know, they got into financial trouble . and so financial trouble. and so i think the bank of england is

between a rock and a hard place at the moment, and they've got to be very careful because if they trigger off a domino effect across financial what i am worried about and you say oh it's a bit too quick to base assumptions on like today as well think. i'm not basing my well i think. i'm not basing my eyes on today's figures eyes which is on today's figures on assumptions on the on base, my assumptions on the fact work, i wear fact my eyes work, i wear glasses west very well. i can see had a hash brown from a see i had a hash brown from a very known takeaway. what very well known takeaway. what the golden arches for the what the golden arches for the what the initial of my name and i honestly swear my hash brown has been nice and i'm p and it was £1.69 on sunday. i was was that 70% increase or something. you tell me you're 72. so it's little things, you know, it is pasta, it is flour , it is pasta, it is flour, it is butter, milk , eggs, all of those butter, milk, eggs, all of those things. it's not luxury, you know, it's not luxury items . and know, it's not luxury items. and that's why i think we've got to be slightly calmer about our reaction to inflation. you know, the bank of england raising interest rates, control principally the investment in assets. when you raise interest

rates, you discourage investment in assets. you're not discouraging people from buying food . you still have to buy food. you still have to buy food. you still have to buy food. yes, but if that goes to punishing them . but if they punishing them. but if they decide to put up interest rates tomorrow, which they may well do, that go do, you know, that will go people's mortgages, which will then the is the then which is the which is the asset effect. and then, you know, they're going to think, oh, we've cut back oh, gosh, we've got to cut back on food. and, it on our food. and, you know, it takes a couple months for interest rate rises to show their impact. so what we're experiencing markets experiencing now in the markets with banks as result with the banks as a result of interest a few months interest rate rises a few months ago, got the bank of ago, they've got the bank of england's to be very, very england's got to be very, very careful. were careful. and they were criticised weren't they ben, for not raising interest rates. yeah. know. well lots yeah. i mean you know. well lots of people are still lots of people are getting in touch with that saying that you too a feeling excessive squeeze as we've been getting involved in the debate about the eating of an island it's called the an island for it's called the winds ferment you winds of ferment whatever you want the bert the want to call it the bert the past lots of people in northern ireland angry. i was asking, is there anyone in northern

there anyone that's in northern ireland has a different ireland that has a different view, found one? i think you view, a found one? i think you said this is it, peter, your name. say live here in the name. you say i live here in the north of ireland and i'm an irish nationalist, but i'm noticing that you're only reading emails that agree reading out emails that agree with classing us as with people classing us as british. irish nationalists are intimately pretty. you say , and intimately pretty. you say, and you also fail to mention that the british carved up our country 100 years ago . i don't country 100 years ago. i don't ever just read our emails. country 100 years ago. i don't ever just read our emails . agree ever just read our emails. agree with everybody's welcome on this show. all views are welcome as long as we respectfully disagree on that note. thank you very much and ben for your opinions very strong views out there. and maybe you're right, you know, maybe you're right, you know, maybe one of these days, but do ihave maybe one of these days, but do i have to take our cells out and come see you all in northern ireland and have this to bear out in the flesh? that is all i've got. time for. something tells me this topic is not finished. nigel finished. you've got nigel farage. up next, jacob rees—mogg after go anywhere. after him. don't go anywhere. thank though, for thank you for now, though, for your i see you your company. and i will see you tomorrow night .

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good evening. a busy day in the westminster village. the government wins a vote with a big majority on the so—called windsor framework. i'll explain tonight to you why i think that's a very big, long term mistake . and boris johnson being mistake. and boris johnson being grilled for 3 hours by a parliamentary committee this afternoon. the question has to be, he survive? will his be, can he survive? will his political career continue beyond this ? and on talking points, this? and on talking points, i'll be joined by retired u.s. admiral michael hewitt, who now works at the nuclear industry. i'm going to ask about small modular nuclear reactors . i'll modular nuclear reactors. i'll be practical. are they possible ? could they be the answer to the net zero challenges that so

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