tv Laurence Fox GB News March 24, 2023 7:00pm-8:01pm GMT
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good evening, girls and good evening , girls and boys. good evening, girls and boys. it's 7:00 and i am laurence fox. tonight i am discussing the inevitable, predictable misfortune , mistake, misfortune, mistake, annihilation of women, sports and how not its first or last victim has been slaughtered at the altar of equity . well, the altar of equity. well, everyone , you can soon go to any everyone, you can soon go to any sporting event and it will be entirely populated by blokes cheering women face. then i will welcome you to the fox and hounds panel. i'm the fox and i have two news hounds with me to digest some of the biggest news the week. and finally we slip
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across the pond for the latest on the donald trump indictment saga and the hunter biden laptop nightmare . i feel, by the way , nightmare. i feel, by the way, and don't forget, most importantly , i want to hear from importantly, i want to hear from you.so importantly, i want to hear from you. so send me your views this way. can you at gbnews.uk or tweet me at those vox.7 that's all coming up after headlines with tatiana sanchez . darren, with tatiana sanchez. darren, thank you and good evening. this is the latest from the newsroom. the first state visit of king charles to france has been postponed because of protests across the country. tens of thousands of people have been demonstrating against the government's plan to raise the pension age from 62 to 64. the king was due to arrive on sunday as part of week long trip to europe . the french president has europe. the french president has suggested the new date for the visit will be in the early summer . the visit will be in the early summer. the windsor visit will be in the early summer . the windsor framework summer. the windsor framework has now formally been adopted by the uk and the eu the foreign
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secretary and european commission chaired a meeting earlier to sign off the post—brexit trade agreement . post—brexit trade agreement. that's after mp is voted in favour of the stormont brake despite continued opposition from the dup . the prime minister from the dup. the prime minister has stressed the importance of upholding democratic values dunng upholding democratic values during a meeting with his israeli counterpart benjamin netanyahu's in london . as netanyahu's in london. as thousands rally in israel and hear against the law that's been approved by his right wing coalition critic phase designed to shield him from his corruption trial. freshest sunak also called for a de—escalation of tensions in the west bank , of tensions in the west bank, well outside downing street demonstrate to describe netanyahu's controversial reforms as unacceptable . while reforms as unacceptable. while security guards at heathrow airport will go ahead with strike over the easter holiday after talks over pay have failed , the airport says it has contingency plans in place to deal with the ten day walkout
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and keep it running as normal heathrow says they've offered a 10% pay rise to workers ofsted says school inspections will continue despite calls from teaching unions for them to be suspended . three unions say they suspended. three unions say they should be paused while a review is carried out . it's after head is carried out. it's after head teacher ruth perry took her own life in january , most awaiting life in january, most awaiting her school report . the ofsted her school report. the ofsted chief says that wouldn't be in the best interests of children. meanwhile, headteachers , sophie meanwhile, headteachers, sophie greenaway says the mental health of staff should be a priority . of staff should be a priority. and premier league has referred to an independent commission to question reported losses of over £370 million. everton's last heanng £370 million. everton's last hearing the 2020 122 season allegedly breaches league's profit and financial sustainability rules, allowing clubs to lose a maximum of £105 million over three year period.
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over five functions . tv online over five functions. tv online and radio. and on tunein this is gb news now is that tell our. one of the drawbacks to a democracy is that once mankind has been free to pursue its own ambitions and goals within the meritocratic system and the dice have fallen where they will, they will no doubt be some that come out the other side better off than others. society tries to mitigate the inevitable inequality caused by some folks being taller , faster, smarter or being taller, faster, smarter or stronger than others. by our commitment to charity, philanthropy , perhaps most philanthropy, perhaps most importantly, equality of opportunity and mutual commitment to give everyone a decent swing of the bout of life and to remove as many obstacles as possible in order to maximise
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human flourishing . it is by no human flourishing. it is by no means a perfect system, but as churchill said , democracy is the churchill said, democracy is the worst form of government except for all the other forms that have been tried. and now , as the have been tried. and now, as the shadows begin to lengthen and we head into the autumn of western hegemony, it often seems that democracy is rather rapidly falling apart. as human beings begin to obsess about the strangest of topics the affluent and leisured. so for dwelling screen addicted citizens 2023 sozzled on righteous dope mean hits from our digital crack pipes have run short of wrongs to write and inequality to stamp out. so instead we take a lazy but inevitable turn toward something altogether more spooky . radical equality the capitalists . socialism, if you capitalists. socialism, if you will, where affluent citizens unencumbered by trifling matters like ensuring they have food and shelter. look guiltily around them for a way to improve everyone else's achievement. flourishing, whether they like it or not. has been the cause of
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so many of recent cultural conundrums that we are facing. and it could sound the death knell to this current iteration of democracy. its main manifestation, this enemy, is what is broadly referred to as woke cory and insidious equity cult, which demands that the traditional hierarchical system based on socio economic structures be replaced by ethnic and sexual grievance hierarchies . instead, society is no longer about the haves and the have nots , as most people in the nots, as most people in the affluent west have quite long. relatively speaking, compared to their planet inhabitants, their fellow planet inhabitants, it is now about the oppressor and oppressed and power and and the oppressed and power and control . new roles are decided control. new roles are decided arbitrarily according to this grievance hierarchy , with grievance hierarchy, with straight white men at the top and blindside, while trans lesbians the lesbians of colour at the bottom. mission is to drag bottom. the mission is to drag the straight white male whether he lives in a palace or in poverty, down to the level of a trans lesbian of colour, calling narcissistic, lacking in optimism . bureaucratic optimism. bureaucratic nightmare. see all the diversity, equity and inclusion
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non jobbers who populate workplace nowadays and it creates enormous division and nowhere has this been more evident to see than in the trans debate , be it the horrendous debate, be it the horrendous chemical castration and mutilation of children incapable of comprehending the magnitude of comprehending the magnitude of the consequences of undergoing irreversible medical mutilation or private spaces for women to go about their intimate business to public spaces where men usually mediocre men males, swap sides and go head to head against less physically capable women in female sports. this comprehends simply ridiculous debate. rather heartening . it debate. rather heartening. it came to the head yesterday when it was announced that so—called trans women are to be banned from competitive sport against actual ones . the ever more actual ones. the ever more devious and pernicious stonewall whose protesters adorn so many pubuc whose protesters adorn so many public sector buildings and whose ideology fills so many a pubuc whose ideology fills so many a public sector mind, were quick to cry. transphobia and falsely stated that so—called trans people were to being removed from sport. not true. they can
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compete against those from that biological sex as is right and fair and astonishing . it has fair and astonishing. it has taken so long for society. embrace some common sense which has noticeably for these has been noticeably for these past few years . so why is it past few years. so why is it taking so to long apply rationality to this simple issue 7 rationality to this simple issue .7 could it be the relentless shutting down of debate by playing the phobia card phobia as defined in the oxford english dictionary? is the eruption all fear, dislike or antipathy of something? it's a allegation used by the bbc fairly often, admittedly, with an islamo, often before it, admittedly, with an islamo, often before it , to quell any often before it, to quell any righteous anger about uncontrolled immigration, rape, gangsin uncontrolled immigration, rape, gangs in northern cities, or bombs going off at kids. it doesn't seem . too irrational to doesn't seem. too irrational to me, if you know what i mean. no one likes to be called phobic, though, with all the kerfuffle. that allegation brings and hence mouths remain and women are depnved mouths remain and women are deprived their virginity and their rightful places on podiums , countless lives and careers
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destroyed by the suppression of free expression . so could this free expression. so could this transport ban be the beginning of a swing to common sense that those who hold heads in ever growing despair at the state of things are so hopeful, must come is madness of the trans sport debacle a sign signal fair that people are waking up to the egregious misogyny of this woke movement ? and egregious misogyny of this woke movement? and alongside egregious misogyny of this woke movement ? and alongside both movement? and alongside both physical and emotional that it bnngs physical and emotional that it brings with it perhaps . it is brings with it perhaps. it is too early to tell . but this too early to tell. but this relentless woke juggernaut so ingrained in all our institutions can be stopped . institutions can be stopped. world athletics association , the world athletics association, the brave women, the men campaigned for fairness over equity have shown us all that we need to do what we must do it and we must stand up. use our unique and valuable voices to end this devious charade. after all, as the story goes, it only set one small child to stand out from the crowd and say the isn't
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wearing any clothes . so tonight wearing any clothes. so tonight i'm asking you , is it time i'm asking you, is it time society go off trends wagon? email me at gbviews@gbnews.uk or tweet me. and lots of folks are at gb news news. first up tonight, you will not be surprised with all the news that women's is now a distant memory. all professional sport will now have any male participants. whether anyone alone a woman raised concerns about infiltrating their spaces, sports and podiums. they were booed and branded bigots, transphobes and monsters . the transphobes and monsters. the victims being told, shut up and get on with it. be a good little girl and not to complain, have nothing left to give and have started to quit. the sports have dedicated their lives. hannah orangemen. the latest name to add to wall of shame . joining me add to wall of shame. joining me now to discuss this is former
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ncaa division conference champion linnea solskjaer. ncaa division conference champion linnea solskjaer . good champion linnea solskjaer. good evening live there . hi. good evening live there. hi. good evening. thank you so much for having me. my pleasure . have you having me. my pleasure. have you have you competed against men? can you tell us a bit of your story? yes. so i am formerly a division one ncaa athlete you had just mentioned. i competed for four years in undergrad at southern utah university. and it wasn't until my senior season, an indoor season which would have been the winter of 2020, that i competed the first male, female, transgender athlete competing in division one, ncaa track and field . this individual track and field. this individual had competed in the men's category for three years previous at the university of their choosing before then transitioning and then becoming a part of the female category for their fifth and final year of eligibility in the ncaa. and how did that make you feel suddenly to be around a man ? it suddenly to be around a man? it was extremely unfair and truly
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disheartening to know all of the time, the work, the effort, the energy that i had been putting my training, the sacrifices that i had put forth that last four years of being an ncaa athlete was all going to be stripped away from me because there was an individual, biological an individual, a biological advantage me that was then advantage over me that was then going to competing against in going to be competing against in my final season . and so do you my final season. and so do you nofice my final season. and so do you notice this on the court? do you feel is there a different chemistry suddenly between your fellow when, when, when blake turns up to play well , fellow when, when, when blake turns up to play well, as i just mentioned, there is the biological difference between men and women . that is why there men and women. that is why there is separation of sexes in sports. men tend to be taller, have larger bone density, have larger muscles , more are larger muscles, more are stronger, can or can lift a lot more can run faster. things of that nature, which is things such as title nine have passed to give women a fair opportunity in sport. when you go ahead and enter a competition where you know that an individual, a biological advantage over you ,
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biological advantage over you, you see the differences you can see the differences immediate , especially when immediate, especially when you're that starting line at you're on that starting line at track, you're being very track, you you're being very brave and confident to speak up. but so many of certainly the swimmers in penn state with little less were too frightened to speak about this. why is that . i don't think it's an issue of bravery. i mean, i think that i'm speaking for everybody when realise that this is unfair , realise that this is unfair, allow males to compete in the female category. however, i have received extreme scrutiny from individuals and other people that have decided stand up and say that we're the ones being discriminatory and we are the ones being unfair, saying that there should be separation of sex and sport so it only makes sense that people are afraid to speak out about how it makes them and how unfair is them feel and how unfair it is because backlash that because of the backlash that they . and is that is they receive. and is that is that a fear of a future opportunity that you're being thrown away because the fear of
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being called transphobe or or what would you say? why? why why are some people speak out while others less ? i think because of others less? i think because of what you just mentioned . it's what you just mentioned. it's very easy to slap labels on individuals and call them things as if you just mentioned when isn't an issue of whether not we think that individuals should be able to express their gender ideology . able to express their gender ideology. this is able to express their gender ideology . this is an able to express their gender ideology. this is an issue of males and females competing in when it comes to biological advantages. men do have physiological advantage over women and so they should not be able to be women. excuse me, should not be able to be forced to compete against somebody that already has unfair advantage over them . it's very interesting over them. it's very interesting to use the gender ideology because i'm of the opinion that homosexuality is a hardware issue and transgenderism is possibly a software issue . so do possibly a software issue. so do you believe this is driven by ideology and the need for some men to succeed regardless and therefore they're happy to take a transition or do you think it
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is genuinely a transgender person becoming transgender and suddenly finding that they're going the next basketball going to win the next basketball competition foot competition by being a foot taller than everybody else? i can't to the reason that can't speak to the reason that an individual decides to transition or go through this journey. i that it is extremely difficult and there's a lot of different steps and things that you have to face when you decide to forward with to move forward with the transition however, it transition. however, when it comes competing in sports , i comes competing in sports, i don't think that it's something that somebody decide to all of a sudden be able to switch categories to one that is less competitive maybe easier competitive and maybe easier for them win. so we need to them to win. and so we need to continue protect women, just continue to protect women, just like world athletics like the world athletics association is doing by not allowing these individuals that have through male puberty to compete in the female category, but moving forward, we need to make sure that we are protecting women all categories and not women in all categories and not just the most elite category, which athletics has just which is what athletics has just done. which is what athletics has just done . as as i can done. and as far as i can understand, that a pre—emptive move by, the world athletics association , rather than they're
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association, rather than they're not they're not having deal with something that's already happened.so something that's already happened. so what's take on world athletics situation ? you world athletics situation? you done you're applauding that move or is it transphobic ? or is it transphobic? absolutely. i'm it i think that this is a very positive trend in governing bodies. i think that they are doing a great job protecting women's sports. is a vast improvement from we've vast improvement from what we've seen united states, seen in the united states, especially within the ncaa. i especially within the ncaa. so i would say it is 100% a step in the right direction . but as i the right direction. but as i had previously mentioned in, your question before is they are excuse me, they are protecting elite women. and i think women of ages and all sports of all ages and all sports should be protected. but seeing how world athletics has decided to respond to this is incredibly encouraging . and i think that encouraging. and i think that this is 100% a step in the right direction for protecting women's sports . so a good day for sports. so a good day for women's sports thank heavens. and thank you so much, lynn and salt . coming up next is new ish salt. coming up next is new ish feature new issues when you've doneit feature new issues when you've
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done it more than one week in a row, things cost a new issue and predictable enough with a new issue. and predictably enough name. thanks, guys. i am name. again, thanks, guys. i am talking to a political commentator, anna commentator, campaigner, anna mcgovern and. rachel, what can eco entrepreneur or my folks amount back .
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in three. aloha. there's a lot of news dunng aloha. there's a lot of news during the week and i'm only allowed to be on your tele box for a single hour of that week. so i invite my news hounds to the studio to discuss some of the studio to discuss some of the topics that caught eye. the topics that caught my eye. political commentator and campaigner and campaigner and jim mcgovern. and rachel, eco rachel, what can eco entrepreneur welcome . thank you. entrepreneur welcome. thank you. following on from the trans mountain women's sports , i want mountain women's sports, i want to ask my panel their thoughts on it. right. what to rethink? what do i think? well it's about
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fairness and. if you have a distinct due to being as a male and then transitioning you to have a distinct advantage if you don't go through puberty. but we're not talking about people pre—pubescent puberty . we're pre—pubescent puberty. we're talking about get the athletes in question . we're talking about in question. we're talking about . yes. going through puberty, developing their muscle structure, that long structure , structure, that long structure, that lung capacity . and then that lung capacity. and then they have a distinct advantage. my they have a distinct advantage. my stepfather transitioned became mother or auntie . our became mother or auntie. our case his hand still in the day back in the day in 1972. awesome. faux pas. okay. that's transitioning. i'm up for 72 transitioning. i'm up for 72 transitioning and good trying to frame children transition . what frame children transition. what do think about it? it's obviously a thing, isn't it? being transgender is obviously a thing. yeah, but it's becoming
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such.if thing. yeah, but it's becoming such. if you didn't sort of like an epidemic now, especially young people, i'm using a lot of trans young people, a lot of people in australia, older people in australia, older people are identifying as lgbtq. i i'd like to cut in here because i used to work at school and one of the policies i was working at boarding school and there'd children and young people that go to boarding school for the first time and there were two students that i knew who i knew biological females and the participants at school . but then when they went school. but then when they went to the school, what the they told the teachers was that actually identify me as a boy and they kept it a secret from the parents. so they gave it to the parents. so they gave it to the school. it kept it a secret for the parents and we want to keep it secret . and then when we keep it secret. and then when we communicate, the parents we had to use, obviously the biological of children. but what they of their children. but what they didn't know was that they're actually identifying a completely different gender. and then there was another to then there was another child to achieve full transition from being a biological male into , a
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being a biological male into, a female. and i think this child was 14 years old and living the female accommodation . and i female accommodation. and i think you see stuff like this andifs think you see stuff like this and it's absolutely abhorrent . and it's absolutely abhorrent. some of the some of the children , the parents as well, it will send your child to a boarding school for the first time. you have idea that this problem is going help or going on and can't help or support child. well worried support your child. well worried about home now . about it. just going home now. yeah, . it's not good. yeah, i met risk. it's not good. it's not a good idea, isn't it's not good for parents for a school to . go and subsume the school to. go and subsume the family . see the family. no no, family. see the family. no no, it's not. oh, come on. can you have some pretty radical views ? have some pretty radical views? brilliant, utopian . oh, i don't. brilliant, utopian. oh, i don't. i don't have radical views. but i don't have radical views. but i don't have radical views. but i do think that we are all on a on a spectrum, without doubt . on a spectrum, without doubt. and i think perhaps there's a lot more going on because the spectrum is becoming more open and people are able to be accepted a lot more on that spectrum. but they create a whole load of other issues of,
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you know, of, of, of what age is it? okay, surely it's not okay at boarding school. i mean, sorry, guys are not here to listen to people agree . shush. listen to people agree. shush. now we're moving on. it's almost like you get around, you don't stop . oh, god, you got it all stop. oh, god, you got it all out of me on this one. next up, yesterday, the three year reminder of the fast lock down lock in. here's a video , rachel, lock in. here's a video, rachel, from this evening . i must give from this evening. i must give the british people a very instruction . you must stay at instruction. you must stay at home, because the critical thing we must do to stop the disease spreading between households . spreading between households. thatis spreading between households. that is why people will only allowed to leave their home for the following very limited purposes. shopping for basic necessities as infrequently as possible . one form of exercise possible. one form of exercise a day . for example, possible. one form of exercise a day. for example, a run walk or cycle alone with of your household. any medical need to
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care or to help a vulnerable person and travelling to and from work. but only where. this is absolute necessary and cannot be done from home was . an god. be done from home was. an god. i can't forgive that man for a second. what do you think, rachel ? so my question is, how rachel? so my question is, how comes the rest of the population work from home? but they couldn't. number ten, because they were too busy going past. well, i understand that but but why were they there anyway. i mean obviously he lives there but he the only one that does live there. so why was everybody else even on the premises? why weren't working on or weren't they working on skype or zoom , having parties ? i just zoom, having parties? i just think it's absolutely disgraceful because they didn't follow the rules. everyone else did. we thought we were doing the well, i didn't the right thing. well, i didn't follow school at follow a school at all, but i was berated and chastised and hated single national hated by every single national because. refused to do any of because. i refused to do any of it. but boris, you were told that if you broke the rules, you're putting everyone at risk.
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people going to die. and people are going to die. and then they were the roses. if it didn't for and didn't apply for them. and i think it's absolute disgrace. did the select did you watch the select committee it, committee hearing? i watch it, yeah. was quite gripping. it yeah. i was quite gripping. it was just disgraceful because he's in complete denial, he's just in complete denial, just whole time saying just lying the whole time saying no didn't anything wrong and no, didn't do anything wrong and i just think it's complete. it's aninsuh i just think it's complete. it's an insult everyone that, you an insult to everyone that, you know, invited the rose and suffer consequence of it. suffer the consequence of it. you know, so many people lost , you know, so many people lost, loved that time loved ones during that time could funerals and were could attend funerals and were completely . i think we completely isolated. i think we have an even bigger mental health a covid health crisis and a covid crisis. that's right. i couldn't agree . but the point is, is a agree. but the point is, is a much bigger problem he much bigger problem in that he clearly lied about a lot of things, not just party children. he's got it was just lie after lie after lie. and the story kept changing. you know, originally , course, there were originally, course, there were no parties at all. and then it was okay. there were only essential parties. i mean, dunng essential parties. i mean, during if i had an essential party at work, you know, i'm not that the police would question you during lockdown were you
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obedient. oh i was as obedient as i could . such a good hostess as i could. such a good hostess , so obedient that i'm not going to tell you otherwise. admitting to tell you otherwise. admitting to don't know. what about the mental health crisis and know this stuff out? i mean, you about people missing funerals i'd go on about this a lot my mother's funeral two days mother's funeral was two days before little getting before these little were getting drunk downing . what was your drunk in downing. what was your what are you thinking now post disastrous government failed pubuc disastrous government failed public health experiment . what public health experiment. what do you think? so in our company , we had to put every manager through mental health first aid training because absolutely mental health crisis . three mental health crisis. three years on, we've still got that . years on, we've still got that. it hasn't changed. you know, we've still huge levels of staff with still not wanting to come the office of and you know this evening i was reading up about the excess deaths . you know, in the excess deaths. you know, in 2022, up 9, you know , the worst 2022, up 9, you know, the worst in 50 years, excess deaths . in 50 years, excess deaths. excess deaths. yeah. they don't focus . you're not allowed to focus. you're not allowed to
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talk about the excess deaths. but hang on. i think it's a brilliant policy. it was absolutely brilliant . and what absolutely brilliant. and what do you think got away from the system. well, i'm still alive but it was i think i gave back to the mental health crisis. so a very friend of mine during, one of the lockdowns, she was completely from home. and i think especially for young people, you use social media a lot more. so for her, she told me how she does tik tok a lot more. and i've one thing about tiktok is if you look up in particular topics such as eating disorder , you know, even dieting disorder, you know, even dieting , depression, , mental health, depression, anxiety , your explore page will anxiety, your explore page will be flooded with this kind of content within a couple of minutes. and this app used minutes. and this app is used with children as young as 13. so imagine if you're looking at a concept like that and being completely it. well, completely spooked it. well, because the using tiktok because of the way using tiktok quite a lot, she ended up developing quite severe eating disorder she didn't have disorder and she didn't have anyone because anyone to help her because obviously the lockdown completely isolated home and she said if it weren't for the
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lockdown think she would lockdown didn't think she would have that disorder. have developed that disorder. wow. thank my kids wow. well, thank god my kids look lockdown . i mean, all my look at lockdown. i mean, all my kids tiktok is renowned. kids doing tiktok is renowned. their anyway, i'm teaching their goals anyway, i'm teaching a half time home because i want bofis a half time home because i want boris johnson out. i know i do. and she'll stay here. we'll back
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or £278.70 if you live with a partner, you could be eligible for pension credit, even if you own your home or have savings. it's worth, on average, £3,500 a year and you could get help with heating bills and more, plus up to £900 in cost of living payments. in three. hello. so earlier on the show, i asked you , is it time society asked you, is it time society got off the wagon? so let's see what you've got to say. scotty says , i get where you're coming says, i get where you're coming from, but it comes across as transphobia because you keep banging on about it. if you care about the sexes, do a feature on domestic violence or fgm . this domestic violence or fgm. this is an agenda driven by hate alone. hang on a minute. isn't fgm exactly what they're doing
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to . children in schools. sorry, to. children in schools. sorry, scotty. not on your side this time , but did everyone agree time, but did everyone agree with me last week ? so it's with me last week? so it's alright that you disagree? jane says it's time. you can't says yes it's time. you can't change look . change sex. oh, look. hallelujah. right. that's enough . they always just all like a constant screaming . stop. i constant screaming. stop. i don't like that. that's enough, rebekah. i'm back in the studio . we have drowned, too. i want kick off with the way. call it the lord. according to the story on the front page of the daily mail, around i've got to mail, around one. i've got to look around . the 120 legal look around. the 120 legal professionals , including that professionals, including that genius genius legal mind. julian all set to sign a declaration conscience vowing to refuse health services and prosecuting protesters who like glueing themselves to the street like just stop oil and extinction rebellion rachel, you're an eco warrior entrepreneur. what do you think ? so i should agree you think? so i should agree with this, but i absolutely
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don't want to keep. i am so sorry. and you know why? the reason i don't agree with it is. where does it stop? so is it. thenif where does it stop? so is it. then if we said, okay, that's fine. what happens with doctors ? doctors do they then say , you ? doctors do they then say, you know what, we're not going to treat this patient. know treat this patient. you know we've he's been taken out of jail straight to a&e, but none the doctors will treat him nowadays as well. and i'm not going . do you know ? oh, sorry. going. do you know? oh, sorry. you know , everybody says that you know, everybody says that they end . but so there's they end. but so there's boundaries. and once you cross that boundary with one profession, what happens with all the other professions? this is a good point. yeah, no, exactly. i just think it's obviously part of an obviously part of just an gendenisnt obviously part of just an gender, isn't it? and again, you've rapists , you've you've got like rapists, you've got, the same type . everyone has got, the same type. everyone has the right to a fair trial and it just feels like they're targeting one specific issue, just deciding, no, we're not going to, we're just going to stand down from this. it just seems strange. well, seems very strange. well, i don't care about lawyers, he
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said. important, guys. you said. it's important, guys. you always the lawyers to be always tell the lawyers to be sort of empirical people who work slow of it work in the slow function of it discovering truth , not discovering truth, not activists, be beep, beep, activists, people be beep, beep, beep. you just wouldn't have thought so. yes, i always thought so. yes, i always thought lawyers were generally thought so. yes, i always thc more lawyers were generally thought so. yes, i always thc more conservative generally thought so. yes, i always thcmore conservative leaningly be more conservative leaning anyway because they're just in the of . but i don't the business of. but i don't necessarily think that's. never thought of . i think it's thought of. i just think it's especially it undermines kind of the legal process so the legal system because they've just kind of taking the role the judge of taking the role of the judge into own hands. i just into their own hands. i just think it's really bad. think it's just really bad. well, it just made a whole well, it just made into a whole big campaign because the jedi, my is world's least my mom is world's least successful lawyer , so that's successful lawyer, so that's pretty good. but what i don't understand is that, you know, i'm reading about it this afternoon. i did criminal law a—levels, so i was very aware of the cup rank. but lawyers for barristers for years have sort of chosen the cases to some extent by not available or the rates going up. so it starts happening . why suddenly make a happening. why suddenly make a big deal of it ? i think it's
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big deal of it? i think it's a word that does affect you . word that does affect you. right. so what do we do with the white noise? should be disbarred them all. how do we dispel? just get rid of them. i mean . i've get rid of them. i mean. i've heard it all back to this chicken pen . we agree with chicken pen. we agree with clients that. yeah, we can't. we can't . like, this is going to be can't. like, this is going to be anything to new agree about. oh okay. anything to new agree about. oh okay . i anything to new agree about. oh okay. i know anything to new agree about. oh okay . i know this anything to new agree about. oh okay. i know this is a good one at this. nothing i don't have an opinion about, but i don't have an opinion on this, which is weird. well, firstly, you write no note. well was dropped repeatedly on that trial for saying common noise often heard out of cars cruising by sound of a dodge cut off from the old builder on the job, even dodgy cars, even as much groups of lads using that basic communication skills to express their attraction , suella their attraction, suella braverman is cracking down on wolf whistling. i'll immediately open this up to my panel, ladies. yay or nay in the whistle of the streets i. don't
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understand it . well, that's why understand it. well, that's why ihave understand it. well, that's why i have an opinion. i can't do it. oh no colour. would you take offence if a man wolf whistled at you? not i can't. and this is my problem? yes, i'm an attention seeker myself so what i don't understand is it talked about public places. public places. so if you go to a magic mike type , cedric might mike type, cedric might pictures. i know what it is. it's like like a strip show know in a public place and women and wolf whistling at the man on stage does not mean that they're all going to be arrested. if a barrister will take the case. of course. i mean, the places with a proper left, it's jeepers creepers . so and so grown up creepers. so and so grown up sensible. oh, sorry . no, creepers. so and so grown up sensible. oh, sorry. no, i just sensible. oh, sorry. no, ijust like in terms of the bad. how is this going to work in the first place? i think the whole thing is very strange, but also at the same time, i think if you're trying to proposition a woman, i don't. the best way it is don't. the best way to do it is whistling them like a dog. to be fair. but i think you've probably got better priorities
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than tried to ban something as harmless wolf . than tried to ban something as harmless wolf. it probably harmless as wolf. it probably would be quite intimidating if a group men up to you. try group of men came up to you. try to remove whistle. it might be just bit much, but just a little bit too much, but think like one wolf think just like one wolf whistle, how are going whistle, like, how are you going buy is this going to buy that? how is this going to see to get it straight? people are just going well, did they issue is that they want to set the according to what the rules according to what a reasonable person would as reasonable person would deem as in a appropriate. but if you ask ten people what is reasonable, they give different answers anyway. well, a reasonable thing nowadays think it's a good nowadays i think it's a good idea everyone even when idea to lock everyone even when they're healthy go bye bye, they're healthy and go bye bye, bye . but trust in the reasonable bye. but trust in the reasonable person has gone out the window. so say right , the last story , so say right, the last story, duty free used to be all about booze. now it's about as well . booze. now it's about as well. do you think you've got you've now got to get your will catch up and hot sauce. i didn't lie i
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didn't this and the reason i didn't this and the reason i didn't is because if the sauces or whatever are for home use, they are vat free. anyway, there is no tax. so but what about very cheap in other country ? very cheap in other country? what if people if you go on houday what if people if you go on holiday and you have your budget of 200 quid to spend abroad , of 200 quid to spend abroad, what do you spend it . on? oh what do you spend it. on? oh what do you spend it. on? oh what do you spend it in? restaurant employee's a credit card company and whether you spend it in a restaurant or whether you spend it on a load of ketchup to put in your suitcase, it doesn't make any difference. it doesn't make any difference. it doesn't make any difference. uk and there difference. uk economy and there is no tax fraud. so i don't i don't get it. like for me personally, me and a group of friends once a month do friends like once a month to do something in europe something really cheap in europe for it and actually for a weekend it and actually out cheaper than a night out i would to love because generally in europe is cheaper anyway just for buy drinks and stuff like that for a night out. but wouldn't necessarily go over
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that with you know, to go live. i'll as much as i i'll get as much ketchup as i had suitcase. bring it had in my suitcase. bring it back. you enough to back. well, you have enough to live countries to you live in other countries to you like all of that. and it cost 1999. and now you're killing penguins off by and i'm i'm very , very upset about my piano on a mcgovern rachel rockin this evening have joined me and i happen to agree on almost everything it'sjust happen to agree on almost everything it's just so sorry to mess up and cass will be out of a job soon. come here. we can start over the pond with chairman of the republicans abroad to get the latest on that. never ending. trump non—indictment and the laptop of hunter biden. the tool , don't it hunter biden. the tool, don't it
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though coming back , it's time though coming back, it's time for a look at the across the pond now it's not been quiet week in us politics materialised of former president donald trump being arrested. budding republican nominee run the sanctimonious he's called desantis causing a stir after calling the war in ukraine merely a territorial dispute and first offspring of the united states deaf wonderful hunter biden reportedly suing repairman who let loose the contents his much too funny laptop. well let's get a full analysis of the events from. the states from chairman of republicans overseas, uk, uk greg swensen. greg how are you doing? great to be here. of course. what happened? no indictment week. yeah, there's a little disappointment. and i think even president trump was disappointed. you know, he wanted kind of. yeah, he wanted to kind of. yeah, he wants the drama. wanted be, wants the drama. he wanted be, you he wanted to be you know, and he wanted to be arrested. not just indicted, but i think the normal procedure would be, you know, come their
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law, their lawyers call his lawyers. they have a nice, quiet indictment, you know, he gets fingerprinted or whatever but i think i think trump would rather much rather go in to a police cruiser handcuffs and cruiser with handcuffs and what's his name, the guy. but yeah. what's his name, the guy. but yeah . so they said you wouldn't yeah. so they said you wouldn't understand for any of the story. alvin bag is soros funded prosecutor . that's right. from prosecutor. that's right. from manhattan, right ? who wants to manhattan, right? who wants to go over this ? donald trump. go over this? donald trump. stormy daniels . how he paid stormy daniels. how he paid stormy daniels. how he paid stormy daniels. how he paid stormy daniels of allegedly or did or didn't. yeah and other back wants to get it on a misdemeanour now when the statute of limitations has been removed right right on this so the case completely baseless the case is completely baseless and the only way it work with a conviction is that 84% of the jury conviction is that 84% of the jury pool and manhattan is know voted for biden. so they hate trump and not in all of new york city, but just in manhattan. so it's a baseless case even alvin bragged new. it really had little credibility . he so he little credibility. he so he chose not to pursue it when he
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was first elected, even though campaigned on on i'm going to get trump that was his campaign slogan. you know, get trump like a lot of these soros back ideas. but the problem is he also doesn't prosecute real criminals . right. so he's extremely lenient. he's one of these bail reform guys. so you know, violent crime in new york is rampant. right the numbers are up significantly . and here he's up significantly. and here he's spending taxpayer dollars and a lot of his time on getting trump . so, you know, it could work again. they could get a conviction . i think most jurors conviction. i think most jurors , manhattan will do anything to get trump, like alvin bragged . get trump, like alvin bragged. but even cyrus vance has predecessor refused to prosecute because the case was so useless. the feds , you know, the justice the feds, you know, the justice department also to do it. so this is purely political. and i think after trump that he was running again in december, that that really forced the radical
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progressive left. people that support alvin bragg, soros progressive left. people that support alvin bragg , soros crowd support alvin bragg, soros crowd really him to go ahead with this case against his better judgement so let me get this right okay the democrats got everything stitched up. they've got they've got the prosecutors. they've got the police. they've got everything's stitch up and they still terrify right to the point where they want to take down trump on what is essentially a non a misdemeanour can't get in what what i've been trying for six years you know they've had countless investigations includes . yeah investigations includes. yeah it's really not a good sign and ihopei it's really not a good sign and i hope i mean in many ways i hope the republican is don't just come back with what about ism and do the same thing know there's plenty of things that they could go after about hunter biden biden bill clinton hillary clinton. you know they don't want it. i think the democrats are foolish to run this kind of campaign and these guys like abe and brag on the citizens forget about what he's doing to these
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these radical days have been really bad working people and poor people in the big cities who are always the victims of the crime. you know, this is the very identity groups that they're always arguing for and claiming that they identify with. they're the ones that suffer the most, you know, 90% of violent crime in chicago. my hometown is on african—american lines. yeah which is a touch and you can that spoken kim fox in chicago is no different brag it's except that he's going after trump because he can say where does this leave the democrats do you think there was a bit where they had to just stop and go look if we go after trump. if the man is in handcuffs, having spent the russian the russian, you know , russian the russian, you know, break the collusion . collusion. break the collusion. collusion. if they do that . yeah, that if if they do that. yeah, that if they did put him in that they knew that they would not win the next election. that is that was it. see, this is the problem. i think there might have been some pressure from democrats originally. it was pressure the
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radical left to radical progressive left to prosecute trump was foolish because it's such a weak case. but now you might have the mainstream democrats, the moderates , the powers that be in moderates, the powers that be in washington , you're just going to washington, you're just going to elevate trump. now, maybe they want to do that because they don't want to run against ron desantis. maybe they to run against let's his against trump. so let's his numbers up after the raid on mar a lago, trump won plus nine over desantis two plus 39 just because of the race . what do you because of the race. what do you make son to say? i quite like i said, the son is taking traditional republican view, which is this is a degree. yeah, he's saying it serious, but we need to not be right, essentially. i mean , yeah, i essentially. i mean, yeah, i mean, he he kind of got a little dig on trump by saying, you know, i will not get involved in this. you know, that's silly, sleazy stuff. right. but then he also said it's political. so did mike pence, who's also going to run against trump anybody who's who's credible has said this is a complete politicisation of the of the criminal justice system.
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it's really sad to see. but i think the democrats have to be smart about this. it very well could elevate trump in the near term. you asked about desantis. desantis think is who they're really afraid of. will he run because he's a populist like trump and he's very similar to trump, but he doesn't have the baggage and got just baggage and he's got just a killer record from florida. i mean, just it on mean, he's just crushed it on every metric in florida as governor for last four and governor for the last four and a half years, has he he's half years, has he said he's going to did he? not yet. going to run? did he? not yet. he it's easy if trump goes, say in my head, tell me if i'm wrong, if trump goes and loses to dissenters. will he endorse dissenters. that's a big question because i don't think he will know. and judging by what he's writing. yeah. so if i'm dissenting, i'm sitting there going, when does florida i'm dissenting, i'm sitting therout? ng, when does florida i'm dissenting, i'm sitting therout? 20, when does florida i'm dissenting, i'm sitting therout? 20, 24, n does florida i'm dissenting, i'm sitting therout? 20, 24, 20? es florida i'm dissenting, i'm sitting therout? 20, 24, 20? whenrida i'm dissenting, i'm sitting therout? 20, 24, 20? when does run out? 20, 24, 20? when does his governorship run out ? not his governorship run out? not for four years. not for another four years. so will i mean, that's something? it's a judgement and everybody's thinking about that, you know, in all the candidates that are considering are running against
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him. but desantis has so much political capital, right now, he has to run because in four years. people might forget about him. you know, this this is just the way it works in its you know, he's on a roll you have to be interesting. you have to honour the role. yeah. when you want it's when everything's going that well for you. and he's a he's a textbook candidate, you know, navy seal, naval harvard , naval officer, yale, harvard, whole thing. i mean, beautiful wife , you know. and again, he's wife, you know. and again, he's just really managed florida well. no, it's the donald. and that's why trump is still polling ahead of him. i mean, peop there are there is a very loyal group to trump. and there's an argument to be made that trump has done it already. he and he and he did what he said he was going to do, not without some chaos, not without some scandal, some turn over some scandal, some turn over some personnel issues, but everything that he said, yeah, yeah. he made i think he made some mistakes wrong on. absolutely he was. and i think i think surely ron desantis will
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point that out quite bit if they do up campaigning against it usually. right who do you rate for? who do you want for it? i prefer desantis and. it's not because i don't like trump and it's not it's not that i don't think that i mean. the question is he win. and so i think desantis a better chance of winning and that's what it's all about winning. right? because because trump lost the house in 2018. he lost in 2020. and you know where he works with the regulars he messed up that's on him. so self help to georgia that was just yeah so there are so many things that he did wrong and you know covid was maybe too hard to overcome as. communications, as you know, weren't great. during the covid crisis, he stuck with vouchers, which was a massive mistake . you which was a massive mistake. you know, easy for us to say know, it's easy for us to say that now because now we know that now because now we know that voucher fraud and so that voucher was a fraud and so many of the advocates of mask mandates and vax manage were frauds. but, you know so it's easy to say now. but he did make
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some mistakes. but generally speaking, if you look at the big issues for americans, the economy, jobs wage growth , economy, jobs wage growth, national defence, security , national defence, security, defence spending, all he crushed it on all of those metrics. so he's going to be running at the end of the day, he's going to be remembered as a great president, whether he serves a second term or not. and maybe it's time that he gives this. i'm going he gives this. i'm just going to note party i would hope note that party and i would hope so. but another thing is trump can only served one term. so know desantis would two know desantis would serve two two if if he governs two terms if he if he governs the country, anything he the country, anything like he governed governs governed as you know governs florida , you know, crush florida, you know, he'll crush it. we'll see, i mean, i it. so we'll see, i mean, i think this these primaries, the debates will be healthy. i just the key is that anybody that's in the single needs to drop out should still vote in iowa . oh, should still vote in iowa. oh, well , thank you for joining me. well, thank you for joining me. to great on the most handsome american in london i've ever seen in my life coming . up next seen in my life coming. up next is the look, the my darling,
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what's on your show tonight, lawrence? another brilliant effort. thank you so much. it is mark dolan tonight from a busy show. boris johnson was grilled on wednesday by mps , but has on wednesday by mps, but has britain moved on from the blonde bombshell . how has boris johnson bombshell. how has boris johnson been consigned to the dustbin of history? we'll debate that with one of his top support is also has brexit finally been put to bed given the fact that the so—called windsor framework , the so—called windsor framework, the brexit breakthrough is now law ? brexit breakthrough is now law? discuss that with a prominent eurosceptic. what are tesco doing reducing the value of clubcard points during ? a cost clubcard points during? a cost of living crisis ? that's the of living crisis? that's the topic of my take at ten and in my big opinion, three years on from the horror of lockdowns, never again . and that's my big never again. and that's my big opinion. at nine, we've got big names , we've got my top pundits names, we've got my top pundits and tomorrow's papers and your emails mark@gbnews.uk a packed 3 hours. i'll see you after this .
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