foreign secretary the eu. the foreign secretary and european commission chair a meeting earlier to sign off the post trade agreement. that's after meps voted in favour of the stormont brake despite continue opposition from the dpp . the minister has stressed the importance of upholding democratic values . a meeting democratic values. a meeting with his israeli counterpart benjamin netanyahu in london as thousands rally in israel and hear against a law that's been approved by his right wing coalition. critics say it's designed to shield him from his corruption trial. rishi sunak also called for a de—escalation of tensions in the west bank. well, outside downing street , well, outside downing street, demonstrators describe netanyahu's controversial reforms. ethnic sceptical security guards at heathrow airport will go ahead with strikes over the easter holiday after talks pay have failed. the airport says it has contingency plans in place to deal with the ten day walkout and keep it

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sanctions. tv online. the abc plus radio. this is gb news back to mark dolan tonight. it's friday night. to mark dolan tonight. it's friday night . welcome to it's friday night. welcome to mark dolan tonight. this hour, has britain moved on from boris johnson .7 also, have we finally johnson? also, have we finally put brexit to bed? or is that wishful thinking? and why is there much focus on net zero and not enough on actual pollution from nine? in my big opinion , from nine? in my big opinion, three years on from the first lockdown, my reaction to the moment the free world lost its mind. we were mad to. go along with it. my mop meets guest is the priest and bestselling author fergus butler galley , who author fergus butler galley, who tells me how god can survive the 21st century and why priests are no angels in big story as the people of france over pensions reform ? why do awesome brits

reform? why do awesome brits take everything down? does this country need a bit of revolutionary spirit when it comes to unpopular government measures? i want to hear from throughout the show, mark at two gb news dot uk a very big 3 hours to come. let's start with this this . if following his this this. if following his grilling in the house of commons on wednesday, the bbc time audience could not find a single person including concern of active supporters to say that they believed what he had to say that was on last night's question time . meanwhile given question time. meanwhile given that just 20 conservative mp has voted against rishi sunak's brexit breakthrough , the win is brexit breakthrough, the win is a framework it would appear that boris's hopes of leading substantial rebellion against the pm's plans were unfulfilled. a squib so has the country and the electorate moved on from bofis the electorate moved on from boris johnson . has boris now boris johnson. has boris now been consigned to the political

scrap heap ? to discuss this, i'm scrap heap? to discuss this, i'm delighted to welcome broadcaster, socialite and political commentator, lady victoria hervey. victoria, welcome to the show . thank you. welcome to the show. thank you. has britain finally moved on from boris johnson? yeah i think we have actually . you know, in we have actually. you know, in the beginning i was very pro. boris, you know, it was that sort of public schoolboy etonians , scruffy hair. look, etonians, scruffy hair. look, i think that deceived a lot of freedom loving. yeah but the fact that when you actually do kind of look at his history like he actually was a young leader with the world forum, with klaus schwab. is that right now this is unelected global group. i think with him he is sort of masquerading pretending to be a conservative. he actually ended up being super liberal. yes. and of course, when you say liberal, just come back from a few years , the united states, that basically means it's an american for the other side. leftie way more than trump you see more lefty than trump you see that boris shifty to the left,

he did . absolutely. i think he he did. absolutely. i think he was pretending to be something that he wasn't to get a certain agenda out there . and i guess we agenda out there. and i guess we have seen a lot of that in response to the covid 19 pandemic. his response was hardly conservative. no, not all. i mean, it was ridiculous . all. i mean, it was ridiculous. what lock up the whole country just because a flu ridiculous . just because a flu ridiculous. what did you make of his performance on wednesday? he looked like he was under pressure. his allies argue he smashed it . others think that smashed it. others think that actually he's going to get some kind of punishment. and there be a byelection. what do you think? what of punishment do you what kind of punishment do you think he's going to get? i don't know. i mean, to be he just he just needs. yeah because he kind of like he comes across as a sort of buffoon and this sort of bumbling be going going along. but he's actually really smart like i think he is intelligent, but he plays that fool. and i think people get to see from him a lot of the time . so, you know, a lot of the time. so, you know, he plays and just the whole

fracking thing , whole net zero fracking thing, whole net zero like all of that. oh yeah . so, like all of that. oh yeah. so, so, so i mean we are now we are not energy efficient anymore in england, right? so we're getting all natural gas from the us and then that is being imported to england. and how is it being sent like okay, it's being flown here or you know, like ridiculous. yeah. so your argument that boris has been very much in hock to the net zero movement, again . yeah, very zero movement, again. yeah, very conservative philosophy , right. conservative philosophy, right. yeah. and then liz , obviously yeah. and then liz, obviously she did try and bring fracking, didn't she. didn't that didn't go down. so what happened to bofis go down. so what happened to boris , why did he dilute brexit boris, why did he dilute brexit even though he was supposed to be such brexit brexiteer why did he the pandemic and give to in sage and their advisers and why did he swallow the net zero narrative? well i think with brexit he he kept changing his mind like he pretended right. he wanted brexit, but originally he didn't want brexit. he completely it just so he would be voted in. so he's like one of

those people that he will change his mind just to suit a current agenda for his own purpose , agenda for his own purpose, which i think is a big red flag. and it should been a big red flag, but i've got lots of viewers and listeners who still love and they feel that he was chucked out of power in an undemocratic coup by disloyal cabinet ministers like rishi sunak's now. pm, what would you say to my listeners and viewers who are missing boris and want him back ? look well, he had his him back? look well, he had his time, didn't need this. this is a difference . england and a difference. england and america, you see america , they america, you see america, they don't throw them , which, you don't throw them, which, you know, look , we still got joe know, look, we still got joe biden over there. yeah and here they get sick of someone in the next one comes in. it's kind of like a musical chairs continual , continual process over here. so what would i say? i don't know. i really like boris as well, you know. so do you feel let down by boris? i do. i feel definitely very let down by boris. but i like he plays that

he's a bit of an actor. have you met him? do you know the guy? i have met him once, yeah. what were your impressions of him? yeah liked him. he's a likeable character, isn't he? yeah. i mean, you're from the world. very much show bit of an very much of show biz. bit of an aristocrat as well. and now political commentator is , political commentator boris is, he than politics. he more showbiz than politics. do he the do you think? did he choose the wrong vocation ? possibly. i wrong vocation? possibly. i mean, i know he's now you know, he's obviously he has a lot of children by different women. he now to go into many public now has to go into many public appearances to probably pay off all those children . so, yeah , he all those children. so, yeah, he probably needs to keep his trousers up now mentioned the world economic forum that a bit of a conspiracy theory . no, it's of a conspiracy theory. no, it's true. the idea that boris , true. the idea that boris, somehow a protege of klaus because the view is he he went he went to the training school of clown schwab. did he know who is basically trying to depopulate the planet ? that's depopulate the planet? that's that's a hell of a that's a hell of an accusation. you really of a an accusation. you really think klaus schwab is think that klaus schwab is trying depopulate the talks think that klaus schwab is trying it depopulate the talks think that klaus schwab is trying it in epopulate the talks think that klaus schwab is trying it in his 3ulate the talks think that klaus schwab is trying it in his own e the talks

think that klaus schwab is trying it in his own book? alks think that klaus schwab is trying it in his own book? does about it in his own book? does he get households? are you planning to do to depopulate the planet? how do you think crumbs ? listen, is this is ? well, listen, this is this is a dark look on this a pretty dark look on this programme . all opinions are programme. all opinions are welcome, think welcome, but i don't think there's evidence to prove there's any evidence to prove that klaus schwab the wef that klaus schwab or the wef have necessarily a dark intent, but you're entitled to what but you're entitled to do what many people like . this many people don't like. this character. is unelected character. this is unelected figure of klaus schwab and the wef is that they meet a year with the good and the great. yeah.in with the good and the great. yeah. in davos, plan our future and i don't think anyone appreciates that. no. and planning which pandemic are going to unleash on us. you know that's another very harsh accusation . you think it's true? accusation. you think it's true? this is all planned . it's all this is all planned. it's all true. whole thing. where's the evidence that is the evidence that that the pandemic there's some really documents some really good documents freeze but plandemic was freeze on it. but plandemic was a was a very good one online about the people made that film. wow went to quite a few wow she went to quite a few different events in america while i was living there during that time and a lot of people

that time and a lot of people that had been censored in the media all there, all the doctors that have been sent said, you know, judy mikovits, tenpenny, all these people . and it was all these people. and it was just so interesting like actually hearing them talking. but do you not buy the theory that that the covid came from a lab leak? oh, i understand . lab leak? oh, i understand. that's in chinese labs in a tweet. no, no, no. i believe it came from the wuhan lab, just like trump said in the beginning. everything that trump said, it actually became true. you so he deliberately leaked. i mean, why were liberals why would china and the west bring that on themselves? do you not watch project veritas ? there's a watch project veritas? there's a lot of info on on that look i look at everything which is why you'll never get cancelled on my watch . how do you feel when watch. how do you feel when others might characterise what you've said as a conspiracy theory ? conspiracy theories are theory? conspiracy theories are always that just give it . yeah, always that just give it. yeah, that's what what a lot of it. yeah. but even a year you know,

i mean now there's still talking about the wuhan lab leak . oh, about the wuhan lab leak. oh, joe biden's now saying that we have confirmation , knew this have confirmation, knew this over three years ago, like , what over three years ago, like, what are they talking about? yeah well, listen, do think that well, listen, i do think that many voices have been silenced the course of the pandemic, which is the topic of my big opinion. it's three years on from the first lockdown and it's supposed be bringing out another pandemic in 2025. what, you think there's another another virus talking to agenda 2030. yeah crumbs here's hoping yeah well crumbs here's hoping that doesn't happen do you think the public would be as forthcoming in a future pandemic with british people swallow another lockdown , you think? no. another lockdown, you think? no. and what love about england is that people were really standing up for themselves here in america. they weren't no one was on the streets. you know, i would come back to england and when i wasn't allowed to come back i would see it on back here and i would see it on the news obviously a of the news and obviously a lot of the news and obviously a lot of the wasn't showing how the news wasn't even showing how many people out out, out there. but that is that is a big difference . but that is also the

difference. but that is also the talk of climate , you know, and talk of climate, you know, and agenda 2030 is all about how want to do these. you know, turn us into these little 12 minute cities and what we can't move freely . sure. sure. and then the freely. sure. sure. and then the actual plan is to completely erase days of us being able to fly anywhere . so we're going to fly anywhere. so we're going to completely not be able to fly at all. you know, many would say there's no evidence for what you just said. however lots of pubuc just said. however lots of public figures have talked rationing our air miles. public figures have talked rationing our air miles . some rationing our air miles. some people have talked about it . the people have talked about it. the beginning, a carbon allowance . beginning, a carbon allowance. yeah. you know, so i think that one should be open minded to these things. i've looked in detail at the 15 minute city policy and the local authorities that roll it out argue that it's to control pollution. and it's also traffic calming. it's safer for and also no one's locked in those areas. i mean, it's not yet , you know, onshore, but that yet, you know, onshore, but that could happen in the future. well, here's hoping it doesn't i

mean, you know it starts as something a different pretext. right and then when people fall for it , they can change the for it, they can change the rules . words on donald trump . rules. words on donald trump. yes, he is seeking nomination of the republican party . be their the republican party. be their nominee. nomination nominee for president of the united states . president of the united states. does he win the nomination and does win any time i would. i like to see him win. i mean, i don't to move back to america unless he would you he would be the winning candidate. you know, i don you will not return. yeah, i don you will not return. yeah, i might i might go visit. but i would never want to live there again on somebody who basically you you refuse to live in america again . president joe america again. president joe biden. yes why? just because that the whole place is complete chaos now and it has been for a long time. and it's just it's polarised and just i don't know how even explain what would trump do to make america better

. your estimation why is it that you would consider living in america again? president well, he makes it safe and that is one of the main things. and i was very pro like the border wall as an example and people don't realise a lot of this. the borderjumpers, realise a lot of this. the border jumpers, they're not just mexicans , they are people from mexicans, they are people from china, they are people from all kinds like terrorists kinds of like terrorists countries. it's not just little ladies with kids don't see that. it's actually like who are a real threat to america coming through the border? victoria it's never boring having you here for their encounter what a great debate. your response to what victoria has had to say mark at gbnews.uk. coming up after the new brexit deal for northern ireland was formally adopted by the uk and the eu, today i'll be asking a top former mep whether we can now put brexit to bed. here's hoping. see you .

in two today. new brexit deal for northern ireland been formally adopted by the uk and the eu. the so—called windsor framework is designed to make trade between northern ireland and the rest of the uk easier. the eu's chief brexit negotiator . the chief brexit negotiator. the framework allowed the uk and the eu to begin a new chapter in relations. my role seferovic was in london today to ratify the new post—brexit deal with uk foreign secretary james cleverly , the eu's chief brexit negotiator , said the framework negotiator, said the framework allowed the uk and the eu to move on and to have a better future for both sides . well future for both sides. well look, let's get to the view now on the windsor framework , on the windsor framework, whether or not brexit finally been put to bed in the company of former conservative mep for the east of england. brexit and chairman of the freedom association david c bannerman david, thanks for making time to . join us tonight. can we finally brexit to bed about high

? i'm afraid not. i know is very tempting to do so . ? i'm afraid not. i know is very tempting to do so. i think ? i'm afraid not. i know is very tempting to do so . i think the tempting to do so. i think the windsor agreement is kind of a short term fix , but already short term fix, but already today we're hearing something like 300 plants are not covered buyers and those hauliers that you know it does actually provide sort of hard border between east and west . so between east and west. so i think it to be honest, i think we're going to have to revisit it maybe this is short term step forward . but i tell you what is forward. but i tell you what is really concerning , that we're really concerning, that we're still tied into eu rules and it might mean our trade deals like with india or the trans—pacific partnership are actually , you partnership are actually, you know, damaged by this agreement. and that is very, very serious. as you know what they've is put us in a position where we actually away that we are to leave northern ireland behind with the eu for goods and do our own trade deals, etc. or we have

to stay within the orbit of the eu, which i think was always the intention to keep us tied to eu rules . however, david, isn't it rules. however, david, isn't it time we held our nose except to this deal and moved on? after all, many here were. sceptics have argued that if they had been offered this deal three years ago, they'd have beaten your hand off . well, it is your hand off. well, it is better than the current arrangements. i do accept that it's a bit of a short term fix, but there are some worse elements . it which but there are some worse elements. it which is there's more power for the eu, for this joint committee between the uk and the eu . and i actually and the eu. and i actually served on joint committees when i was an mep and that is concerning because it's kind of less temporary and more fixed in certain ways. so i think we're going to have to see how it plays out. you know , has been plays out. you know, has been passed through the commons very strange procedural device to use a statutory instrument rather than an actual act of parliament which you might expect, but let's see how it pans out . i

let's see how it pans out. i think there will be some issues where we may well have to revisit it and obviously the dup are not going go back. northern assembly , which is the whole assembly, which is the whole point of doing a on this. surely there's been something of a drama in westminster on whatsapp. yes whatsapp has reared its ugly head again this time the 0g whatsapp group. now the erg is the european research group of prominent tory brexiteer back benchers and one of their leading is steve baker, who is of course a northern ireland minister , and he's been ireland minister, and he's been on this group today effectively saying we don't need to exist. is it the end of the erg, do you think, particularly given the rather weak response to this legisla lation in the house of commons, only 20 odd tories voted against it. so is the rg no more ? no, i'm an honorary of no more? no, i'm an honorary of tihar jail. i'm proud be so do tiharjail. i'm proud be so do don't forget i mean only 22 of

these voted against 48 actually abstain tory mps put that together that's 70 that's larger than i majority of 67 and it means that rishi sunak had to rely on labour votes to get this fight through. no it isn't the end of the age it isn't the end of the debate. look, i've got a huge regard , steve baker. huge regard, steve baker. i worked very closely with him on the brexit referendum and he's a great guy . but you know, this is great guy. but you know, this is a bit of a storm, a teacup, i think. but but, you know, i am not i think. but but, you know, i am noti do think. but but, you know, i am not i do have deep concerns about so called windsor agreement and remains especially as it the attempt has always been to keep us chained to eu rules . they tried it with the rules. they tried it with the backstop . they tried it which is backstop. they tried it which is now we've got the windsor agreement telling to eu rules . now we've got the windsor agreement telling to eu rules. i can't imagine rishi sunak call this deal perfect either , but this deal perfect either, but perhaps david sunak identified that the people, including

brexit supporting voters, also to move on. well, i think we ought to want to move, but i'd like to be. but you've got to do it on the right basis, because otherwise it's to come back to haunt you. and if it derails our trade deals and we suddenly that, you know, we're still actually reporting to the eu and the european court of justice that's not acceptable and we really must sort the issue and i think we should have got the northern ireland protocol bill that introduced through parliament to just give us the opfion parliament to just give us the option and actually clearly that drove the eu to negotiate with us. so i'm afraid , i don't think us. so i'm afraid, i don't think it's the end of the story. it will go on the tories. david you will go on the tories. david you will form a party. former mep, conservative mep , what's your conservative mep, what's your appraisal of sunak's premiership because he's just starting to now make up ground in the polls against keir starmer and labour

and he's had his so—called breakthrough with the windsor framework. he's committed to stopping the boats whether or not he achieves is another thing he's settled the economy does this guy have momentum momentum . well i'm afraid you to look at the polls and the polls sure showed us going 4% the labour going up 3. so then nearly 50. and when they're at half that sort of 23, i mean , the polls sort of 23, i mean, the polls aren't changing very now. northern ireland is important to me. it's very important to a lot of. but you know, the great british public are often more interested in the cost of living the nhs or whatever , and we'll the nhs or whatever, and we'll have to see that plays out. i think stopping the boats, small boats coming over is probably more in their mind at the moment than the protocol which . often than the protocol which. often they won't understand the detail . i mean it's very complex. so we'll have to see. but it is

down the polls. we're still way. i mean, when they got rid of boris, he was only 2 to 4% behind. now with 30% behind. so there are some real issues here. and i'm very, very concerned about where we're heading. and i want to be out of power for ten years or 13 years under blair. what damage will labour do in that timescale ? that would be that timescale? that would be very worrying . i would hardly. very worrying. i would hardly. david, you'd bbc's question time programme as a barometer of pubuc programme as a barometer of public opinion but last night they do claim to have a balanced audience politically not a single member of the studio audience who could raise their hand, say that they believed what boris johnson said to the house of commons in the partygate inquiry on wednesday . partygate inquiry on wednesday. do you think that the public have moved on from boris johnson 7 have moved on from boris johnson ? i don't think they have. i mean, i a bit of that question time saw that poll. look, people are intimidated. you know , in are intimidated. you know, in such a loaded situation ,

such a loaded situation, television , i'm afraid, you television, i'm afraid, you know, it was a night great, as you know as was said at the time, it wasn't actually a scientific poll. and i wouldn't take much out of it because that audience, i'm afraid they don't audiences that they used in the past it's . it is you know it is past it's. it is you know it is pretty biased and i regret that because you need to a balanced audience as they used do they used to spend a lot of time and money to actually balance audiences they don't that anymore. so i'm afraid i think the public is still pro boris in many ways . the party is still many ways. the party is still very boris. so i wouldn't write him off, you know , things can him off, you know, things can change in politics and they can change in politics and they can change very rapidly at last. but not least, david, on monday, the reform party had a big press conference , featured a good conference, featured a good friend of the show ann widdecombe. they've said they're going to fight the tories in every constituency at the next election could . they keep rishi

election could. they keep rishi sunak of number 10 and install sir keir starmer yes. i mean , sir keir starmer yes. i mean, that's what worries me about reform . you know, i respect some reform. you know, i respect some of the policies as i say and when it comes wonderful . you when it comes wonderful. you know, i know when she was conservative, you know, she gave you an outrage and said, places but the trouble with reform, it's about 6. it's polling at and it goes up to about 9% at most. and there is a it will just help to get sir starmer in and with our centre right politics and the other thing is it doesn't it is actually just like a company it's a one man company. it doesn't listen to members . and i'm chairman of cd0 members. and i'm chairman of cd0 conservative democratic organisation , which is all about organisation, which is all about empowering a conservative party membership . so there are some membership. so there are some issues about reform. you know and i just feel that might derail this and actually just ensure keir starmer gets ten years or more in power which

doesn't suit us david thank you for joining us live from . forjoining us live from. england's second city, birmingham in brilliant conversation you'll market gb news .uk. coming up next, why is there so much focus on net zero and not enough actual pollution ? where are the priorities? we'll discuss.

next emails coming thick and fast has . britain moved on from boris johnson and this from ray and a very long and well—written email. thank raymond. raymond has said good leadership at a minimum, requires courage. convicts shown a moral compass and ethical . boris has of these and ethical. boris has of these necessary character traits . necessary character traits. indeed, despite his off loaded charisma and intelligence, he all often displays that his is purely a selfish one. in

essence, he is an arrogant narcissist from the top of his deliberately ruffled mop to his slovenly dress bearing back in my days as a cadet at sandhurst boris's incorrigible faults would have been quickly identified by our senior warrant officer , guards, instructors and officer, guards, instructors and raymond. thank you for that. victoria harvey , the socialite, victoria harvey, the socialite, was on the show earlier she was talking about the world economic forum, which is an unelected group thinkers who of course gather once a year in davos. the good the great turn up tony blair bill gates sometimes our own politician as well. many of you are not having it, annette says. you are not having it, annette says . your guest, victoria says. your guest, victoria absolutely right. there's something very sinister going on in the world. there are layers above government and we're being controlled by megalomaniacs . controlled by megalomaniacs. lady victoria so good on the wicked pandemic, says cynthia. what's the matter with people all the evidence their

unexplained deaths? ms. through the vaccines, etc. klaus schwab banging the tables . we're in banging the tables. we're in charge and we are in all governments wake up people and say never again . cynthia, thank say never again. cynthia, thank you for that. look this show is all about opinions. you're entitled to yours. i don't think there's any evidence that the world economic forum are controlling planet but hey, my mind and debate mind open and we debate everything on this show so keep those opinions coming . mark at those opinions coming. mark at gb news dot uk. i certainly don't like the idea of an unelected cabal deciding our futures. but no thanks . futures. but no thanks. elizabeth. mark i would never judge anything from a bbc question time. packed audio base and on rishi sunak , says linda and on rishi sunak, says linda rishi sunak is taking us back into the eu by the back door. he has told us that he's a brexiteer, but he has lied that they will get some more of your emails shortly . market gbnews.uk emails shortly. market gbnews.uk . but with all of the talk of net zero, a seeming obsession

with mainstream politicians academia and the corporate world, all while ignoring a greater and more immediate menace pollution. who talks about pollution? do we need to have a wider debate about what preserving the environment actually means? and what are the priorities? to discuss this , i'm priorities? to discuss this, i'm delighted to welcome columnist at spectator magazine, alex marshall . at spectator magazine, alex marshall. hi, at spectator magazine, alex marshall . hi, alex. very nice to marshall. hi, alex. very nice to see you today . great to have you see you today. great to have you back on gb news. we've missed you massively , especially your you massively, especially your truth bombs . let's talk about truth bombs. let's talk about this focus on net zero. i when i was a kid, pollution seemed be the big problem . yes. when the big problem. yes. when i growing up in australia, the big thing down here was clean up australia and all the kids would go out and try and clean up the local areas. but you never hear about that anymore. our children are out glueing themselves the pavement some corporate and pavement for some corporate and political net zero night measure that we've got . and in the that we've got. and in the meantime, they leave all that

rubbish strewn across the roads , the park. so certainly the next generation don't seem to be very aware of the problem of pollution. and definitely in australia we've just banning plastic straws here in new south wales. but of course we're not doing anything about the thousands solar headed thousands of solar panels headed toward our landfill, which is creating the next generation of pollution problems. so you're perfectly right. there's little interest in pollution . and i interest in pollution. and i have to wonder if it's because real problems like , pollution real problems like, pollution cost a fortune to fix and they don't get you any election. whereas net zero is more of a corporate and political dream where get to make money out of the public purse. i wonder whether there are parallels net zero and the covid 19 pandemic an opportunity to control people and massive opportunity for huge corporations to make a lot of money. all done by scaring the bejesus out of us. you're quite right. it is all deviation from

apocalypse politics. that is, you say there is some giant existential and we don't do as we say. and the world going to end or you're going to die in some way, shape or form. which of course, is just a ludicrous kind of way to run politics corporations. but with zero, it's so now that we're basically punishing companies and refusing to give them banking loans if they don't adhere to this climate change saga, which has, as you say , nothing to do with as you say, nothing to do with improving the state of the world. if they cared about the environment, they'd be out there plotting trees, living in the bush and helping to actually fix problems that we've got. instead all i can say is these layers upon layers of , corporate and upon layers of, corporate and political governance to do with how you adhere to international bureaucracy that's decided what's good for the environment, which actually doesn't seem to do anything at a local level. however, government and corporations that you've mentioned would argue that the vast majority of scientists point to fact that the planet is

heating up, carbon emissions are behind it, that many people can't be wrong , behind it, that many people can't be wrong, and in the end the earth is on fire. you'd like to think that, mark, but how many of those experts are wrong 7 many of those experts are wrong ? the assumptions they made on covid? the answer is all of them were wrong about the assumptions of covid. and the same thing is true the environment. they true of the environment. they keep out their keep pushing out their apocalypse because it apocalypse deadline because it doesn't the weather doesn't happen. the weather is essentially as was. essentially the same as was. we're not drowning on the rising sea levels. i live at sea and it hasn't changed in the past 200 years our family farm been years since our family farm been that not underwater and that we're not underwater and neither the pacific islands most of which are actually growing and, not shrinking. so what we have here is a grim a global agreement that is profiting lots of . people who hold the reins of of. people who hold the reins of power . and so they had they're power. and so they had they're going to come and say, sorry, we lied about the climate thing because that at that point the pubuc because that at that point the public money will stop . and so public money will stop. and so however people , start saying, however people, start saying, yeah , however. alex so what

yeah, however. alex so what about the sort of freak weather incidents you know the, forest fires. what about london experiencing 40 degree heat last summer? what about, you know, the empty reservoirs and migrating populations ? well with migrating populations? well with the london some they point you back to the summer of love when it was much hotter and as far as forest go in australia in canada what we actually have is a problem with policy. so in australia instance we've been on the news because apparently on fire week. well they fire every other week. well they locked parks up, they took locked our parks up, they took the management of our parks , the management of our parks, closed all the gates and stopped fire trails and doing backburning when they're supposed to. and so suddenly we have no fires for ten years in an and we have these an area and we have these apocalyptic style fires because al bush has burn but these al bush has to burn but these green policies which are called lockdown policies , they are lockdown policies, they are causing an increase wildfires. so our problem in australia is not temperature which has barely changed. you go back to 1910, the temperature was hotter. it's

our greenies who think that they can micromanage parks in new way and they're causing catastrophe big errors in judgement. yeah, covid measures going to those you just mentioned them. i that we'd be in a better position if we'd be in a better position if we'd had a cost benefit analysis of lockdowns if we'd had not just medics and scientists of diverse opinion , but economists diverse opinion, but economists as well. so psychologists, entrepreneurs , educators to entrepreneurs, educators to actually at you know what the possible human economic cost of the lockdowns would have been . the lockdowns would have been. we probably need a cost benefit for net zero as well . but i'll for net zero as well. but i'll tell you what, with over $1,000,000,000,000 pouring internet zero. i'd say there's a pretty good reason to do an audh pretty good reason to do an audit on this thing and find out where the money's actually going. i know, for example, look at the great barrier reef visions that are going on in australia as that money australia just as an that money is into the hands of is going into the hands of foreign research . it doesn't go foreign research. it doesn't go to the reef or in any way cleaning up the water

surrounding reef, which by surrounding, the reef, which by the perfectly clean and. the way are perfectly clean and. our rape is better than it our rape is doing better than it ever has. you never hear that in the headline. the money is going to bureaucracies and that is a huge you care about huge problem if you care about the environment because as you said before, pollution is a growing pacific. growing problem. the pacific. most waste . the pacific most of the waste. the pacific is coming from south . is not coming from new south. it's straws . it's coming it's plastic straws. it's coming from indonesia and the philippines . their rivers philippines. their rivers literally millions of cubic literally pour millions of cubic tonnes of , literally pour millions of cubic tonnes of, you literally pour millions of cubic tonnes of , you know, plastic, tonnes of, you know, plastic, straight into the pacific ocean. no one is addressing that problem . and no one, including problem. and no one, including the eco warriors, were concerned about those wretched facemasks used during the pandemic, billions of which are now rotting in landfill because . rotting in landfill because. they can't be recycled and they are polluting the oceans. alex a quick one before you go. it's a fried and i think i've got what you would perceived be a fried a good news world athletics have prohibited biologic males who identify as female from participating in in—competition athletics. your response

response ? finally, some common response? finally, some common sense . as soon as we started sense. as soon as we started saying that men transition and become women , we ended up with become women, we ended up with a problem because a man will always be a biological man . a always be a biological man. a woman will always be a biological woman , and the two biological woman, and the two should never have to face each other in a sex segregated sport . so finally, this is just a win for common sense that we've known for a very long time. however does this not exclude trans? is it not terribly hurtful that they can't participate because effectively not respecting life choice in the manner in which by they identify sport is a life choice. so if they want to play professional sport . you cannot professional sport. you cannot take drugs of any kind. you cannot alter your physiology of any kind. if your entire life is about sport, then you place your sex, which is your right to do. if you decide that your life is more about your gender transition, will. unfortunately, sport has to fall by the wayside and every human being make

sacrifices like that in their lives. but all of their choices and so it doesn't invalidate and it should not threaten women's ability to compete fairly in sport . alex marshall great to sport. alex marshall great to have you back on the show. always enjoy reading you in the spectator australia . alex spectator australia. alex marshall, columnist and on marshall, their columnist and on net zero. what you think is net zero happening at the expense of pollution market? gb news .uk. lots more to get through before 9:00. i'm including rising house prices. is still an option. is it worth it or is it now becoming an overpriced con? we'll discuss that .

next we've got a brand line up every saturday night on gb news from 6 pm. i'll give you my take on p.m. i'll give you my take on the world today then it's seven. it's me, calvin robinson, with my common sense crusade . new to my common sense crusade. new to gb news is the sustainable five

times the opinion joining every saturday from 8 pm. as we debate the week's stories with us all plus a special guest and a nine of course it's mark dolan tonight it's brand new saturday nights on gb news. britain's news . channel will have news. channel will have a response to many of our conversations tonight on mark dolan tonight. this from john. hi, mark brilliant show as always. i love good honest journalism i think slippery sunak has sold northern ireland down the river. we're in the eu through the back . and how about through the back. and how about this on net zero? isn't net zero happening at the expense of pollution. this from john mark, you're quite right about pollution . all causes for pollution. all causes for protest have a sell by date. not so long ago, all protests were about single use plastic going back some years. that was the campaign for nuclear. whatever happened to see and d trendy

outrage transient and currently it's all about net zero. how about this from steve mark all the net zero has done is spawn a brand new industry. it is a complete sham says . steve he is complete sham says. steve he is not having they go and what about this not putting his punches. nick has emailed the show. hello nick how are you? market hi, mark. sunak has betrayed brexit with his wins. a surrender . he betrayed brexit with his wins. a surrender. he has betrayed brexit with his wins. a surrender . he has betrayed the surrender. he has betrayed the economy and the british with higher taxes in socialist budget. and he's doing to genuinely stop the migrant invasion. the tories are exactly the same as labour. there's no reason to worry that reform uk will help labour get in. they are already in government . i are already in government. i will vote reform to punish sunak and the tory party that has betrayed us all. a very powerful email that from nick look, we've debated net zero a lot. of course the majority of scientists expert cuts would argue that the is heating up

that we've got too much carbon that we've got too much carbon that it's an emergency . that we've got too much carbon that it's an emergency. but that we've got too much carbon that it's an emergency . but look that it's an emergency. but look on mark dolan tonight, it's all about opinions. so keep yours coming market gbnews.uk . now the coming market gbnews.uk. now the bank of england have raised interest rates for the 11th time interest rates for the 11th time in a row, taking the bank rate to 4.25. despite the turmoil in the banking sector, some economists predict that interest rates could be at their peak, but others worry that rates will rise again to four and a half% by summer. so with cost of mortgage rates spiralling , is mortgage rates spiralling, is there still a case for home ownership in this country? and it's the idea that every brits home is their castle. ultimately going to be a thing of the past? well delighted to welcome two of my favourite viewers to the show. that's right. the most important contributors to mark dolan tonight all my viewers and listeners. and tonight's we welcome andrew in essex and sue in cheshire . hello one and all. in cheshire. hello one and all. sue has the dream of homeownership gone up in smoke ? homeownership gone up in smoke? no, i don't think so .

homeownership gone up in smoke? no, i don't think so. i homeownership gone up in smoke? no, i don't think so . i think, no, i don't think so. i think, you know, i'm old enough to have lived through the last time we had a huge , very high mortgage had a huge, very high mortgage rates, which are a lot higher than they are now. and i think as this crisis abates , the as this crisis abates, the interest rates will go down before the 2008 and catastrophe , they were about 4. the mortgage rate was about 4. and i think they'll get back to that. i think the problem is more the lack of housing for people to buy and i think george osborne's got a lot to answer for that in the past because 2010 he made a right mess of the housing market, his second home levy and he let the people who have secondary homes off a lot of them, but by not having to pay them, but by not having to pay the council tax by letting them say, said to let you holiday let it people who are actually buying houses to refurbish and

then put out back on the market they counted as a second home which is ludicrous. there's going to be i third is there somebody else now that did let's put those houses up 3% before you'd even done to them and landlords is push most of them out the markets in this letter to people on housing lists from the councils who can't get to rent because pushed of all now it's unfair to say they have their mortgages as an expense against expense is because if the if you're if you a laundrette or something and borrowed to buy more washing machines you could use that you could count that as your expense . why shouldn't the landlord do the same? simply because his his his assets are properties and at the same time not do they have

to get that end . they also have to get that end. they also have to get that end. they also have to pay capital tax at the other end.so to pay capital tax at the other end. so osborne's premise that he was levelling off at a local private residence and there are mortgage and landlords are ridiculous. so i think you we've got over 700,000 houses in this country that this lying unused derelict and if they handled that , you derelict and if they handled that, you could have derelict and if they handled that , you could have 700,000 now that, you could have 700,000 now is back in in and use it a lot quicker than you can build a lot of houses in a state that don't really have good quality housing in them anyway george osborne with a lot to answer for andrew in essex is the dream of home in peril ? i in essex is the dream of home in peril? i don't in essex is the dream of home in peril ? i don't actually think it peril? i don't actually think it is because obviously nowadays they various options. so i am a shared ownership homeowner and this scheme you know enables

people to buy from a this was 5% in some cases 40% 60% and 80. obviously, you need to save households to be able to get onto the of but once you are on the ladder is a lot affordable than renting and you do also have a lot of support in terms of i know for myself now with the service charge now i have a window claim to come once a month they maintain the build ing and also have a gardener with my own disability. i wouldn't be basically good at gardening if someone and does that. the very nominal service charge and also think the if people were cut back initially get onto the ladder you know so you know rather going to expensive coffee shops you know going somewhere like greggs you know you can get a bacon roll and a lot £2.50 you know i you know there's ways and means but i also think that actually if people see it as an investment,

what you want if you want to do something and there is a way i'm you know, my kind of generation know my grandparents were influential . i was growing up influential. i was growing up you know if you want something, you know if you want something, you would save for it. i working at 16, you know i had a part time job assigned me some of what various jobs over the last 15 to 24 years and i've since my 2009 now i actually do think is going to be achievable when interest are you know, are gone up. but you know, they are fixed mortgage deals that you can get with the bank so you know you're going to have a fixed deal for five years and then obviously you cope is stability. you got opportunity develop in your career and if you are able to progress you know, and find ways of doing it. i think though the interest rates are not massively higher. i can remember when i was working at 16, the interest were now, what, 6? i'm into islands time ago. so, you know,

for it's gone up point to 5% bondsi for it's gone up point to 5% bonds i you know there are a lot of people i myself who don't have commute to work so yeah if you take that consideration is it is it kind of a swings and roundabouts you know we go out for a social gathering once a quarter . now for a social gathering once a quarter. now and, you for a social gathering once a quarter . now and, you know, quarter. now and, you know, cobra has changed things and, you know, being able to work from hyde is, you know, it save you money. so i guess. you know, it sounds people i'm sure some people may want to in london i know it's a lot more expensive. i live in a community commutable distance rather now i can get fast trains liverpool street . fast trains liverpool street. the 35 minutes is a it's a live here so it's kind of it's under andrew it's a very interesting debate and will be very grateful for the publicity . £2.50 for for the publicity. £2.50 for bacon butty and a lot . my god bacon butty and a lot. my god i wish it was open . bacon butty and a lot. my god i wish it was open. i'd bacon butty and a lot. my god i wish it was open . i'd hotfoot it wish it was open. i'd hotfoot it dunng wish it was open. i'd hotfoot it during the news headlines. sue and andrew, to great you. back on the show. we'll catch up

soon. coming up next, in my big opinion three years on from the first lockdown, my reaction to the the free world lost the moment the free world lost minds. we will matt to go along it. my guest is the priest bestselling author fergus bartlett galley who tells me how god can the 21st century and why priests are no in the big story as people of france revolt over pensions , why do us brits take pensions, why do us brits take every government policy lying down? lots to get through my opinions next. don't go anywhere

it's friday night. it's 9:00. and this is mark dolan tonight. in my big opinion three years on from the first lockdown, my reaction to the moment the free world lost its mind. we were mad to go along with it. my ma meets guest is the priest and bestselling fergus le galley who tells me how god can survive the 21st century and why priests are no angels in big story. as the people of france over pensions reform . why do us brits take reform. why do us brits take lying down? does this country need a bit of revolutionary when it comes to unpopular government measures? big yes. big stories, big opinions. a lively 2 hours to come, including big opinion. but first, the headlines with

tatiana sanchez . mark, thank tatiana sanchez. mark, thank very much and good evening. this is the latest the gb newsroom the president says king charles visiting france would have lacked sense for when protests are happening across country. tens of thousands of people have been demonstrating against the government's plan to raise the pension age from 62 to 64. the king and queen consort were due to arrive on sunday as part of a weeklong trip to europe . but weeklong trip to europe. but president emmanuel macron defended postponing their first visit, suggesting instead a date in the early summer. the when is a framework has been formally by the uk and the eu. the foreign secretary and european commission chaired a meeting earlier today to sign off the post brexit trade agreement for northern ireland. that's after mp has voted in favour of the stormont brake continued opposition from dup . the prime

opposition from dup. the prime minister has stressed the importance of upholding democrat values during a meeting with his counterpart, benjamin netanyahu's in london as thousands in israel and hear against a law that's been approved , his right wing approved, his right wing coalition critics say it's designed to shield from his corruption trial . rishi sunak corruption trial. rishi sunak also called de—escalation of tensions in the west bank well outside street today, demonstrators describe netanyahu's controversial reform as unacceptable security . guards as unacceptable security. guards at heathrow airport will go ahead with strikes over the easter holiday after talks over pay easter holiday after talks over pay have failed. the airports says it has contingency plans in place to deal with the ten day walkout and keep it running as normal. heathrow has said is offered a 10% pay increase to its workers . ofsted says schools its workers. ofsted says schools inspections will continue despite teaching unions calling them to be suspended. three

unions say they should be paused while a review of the system is carried . but the ofsted chief, carried. but the ofsted chief, it wouldn't be in the best interests of children. this after head teacher ruth perry took her own life in january whilst awaiting her school report . head teacher whilst awaiting her school report. head teacher sophie greenaway . the mental health of greenaway. the mental health of staff should be a priority and the league has referred everton , an independent commission, to question losses of over. , an independent commission, to question losses of over . £370 question losses of over. £370 million. everton's during the 2020 122 season, allegedly breaches the league's profit and financial rules allowing clubs to lose a maximum of £105 million over a three year period or. face sanctions and a club . or. face sanctions and a club. everton said they would disappoint . everton said they would disappoint. painted by the premier league's . tv online , premier league's. tv online, derby plus radio and online . and derby plus radio and online. and this is gb news. that was went to mark dolan tonight.

my thanks to tatiana sanchez, who returns in an hour's time welcome to mark dolan tonight. in my big opinion, three years on from the first lockdown, my reaction to the moment the free world lost its mind. we were mad to go along with it. my mop meets guest is the priest and bestselling author fergus galley. he tells me how god can survive the 21st century and why priests are no angels in the big story. as the people of france revolt pensions reform. why do us brits take everything lying down? does this country need a bit of revolutionary spirits when it comes to unpopular government measures? it might take it ten tesco are reducing the value of clubcard points . the value of clubcard points. whatever happened to every helps. that's my clubcard . i'm helps. that's my clubcard. i'm furious that it's lost value. it's a shocking own goal and. i'll be dealing with tesco in an

hours i'll be dealing with tesco in an hour's time. mark dolan tonight is the home of the papers with tomorrow's front pages at exactly 30 sharp with three top punst exactly 30 sharp with three top pundits who have been told what to say and who follow the script. tonight, with me until 1130, top pundits henry hill, stephanie techy and peter edwards . and tonight, i'll be edwards. and tonight, i'll be asking, have tories turned the corner? should woke lawyers who won't prosecute protesters be struck off? and should parents band their children from using social media? plus, your emails , the spicy ones mark at gbnews.uk . , the spicy ones mark at gbnews.uk. now this program has got a golden rule. it's bullet—proof rule or rule. it is my absolute red line on the show. we don't do boring. not on my watch. i just won't have it lost to get through. start with my big opinion. lost to get through. start with my big opinion . three years ago my big opinion. three years ago this morning, following an announcement from boris johnson,

the night before we awoke for the night before we awoke for the first time to an entire country shut down, immobilised , country shut down, immobilised, imprisoned. it was the a supposedly free country discarded its values and centuries of science civic wisdom to pursue a chinese communist party inspired mediaeval policy of people in their own homes , with the aim of their own homes, with the aim of stopping a potentially nasty but largely respiratory virus . largely respiratory virus. what's the point in having values around democracy and freedom if you don't govern by them particularly in a crisis , a them particularly in a crisis, a pandemic, a war, a natural disaster? and crisis. these are the moments when the values of your country should come to the fore not be thrown away . fore not be thrown away. restricting our movements . restricting our movements. covering our faces. bullying into taking a novel medication. closing one's viable businesses. damaging mental and physical health, and diminishing their life chances with school

closures . all of this horror was closures. all of this horror was policy . printing money, which policy. printing money, which has led to inflation we're now suffering, was policy as well. also, the borrowing of half a trillion pounds to pay healthy people to stay at home. the of a budget deficit where more goes out than comes in. and the eye—watering national which now stands at over £2 trillion, was all policy . and here's the all policy. and here's the kicker. it didn't work. none of this carnage. the cost of living crisis . massive government. crisis. massive government. business and household debts. a mental health. an nhs waiting list of 7 million people. none of . it can be seen list of 7 million people. none of. it can be seen or list of 7 million people. none of . it can be seen or proven to of. it can be seen or proven to have moved the dial in relation to the spread of covid. as i said throughout the pandemic virus and a virus now i supported the great barrington declaration signed by top medics and scientists like professor jay bhattacharya of stanford university in the states , who

university in the states, who urged for focussed of vulnerable groups , allowing those who face groups, allowing those who face no mortal threat from the virus to continue working and contribute the economy which pays for the public that we all value. so highly. now i've said these measures didn't work and i will grant you that that is a debating matter . plenty disagree debating matter. plenty disagree with me , but it doesn't take with me, but it doesn't take a genius to look at the difference between countries had strict covid measures and with them the resulting . those countries did resulting. those countries did not. which takes us to sweden who did not lockdown or mask citizens or close schools or shut businesses . far from shut businesses. far from suffering armageddon sweden boast among the rates of excess deaths . europe since 2020 with deaths. europe since 2020 with excess deaths being the ultimate metric. after we were told that all of this was to do with saving lives. sweden ought to

have a far higher death toll or states in america like florida that lifted early. but they do . that lifted early. but they do. name me one country in the world that didn't have strict measures which has topped the global rankings of sad covid deaths. you won't find it as the whatsapp messages matt hancock proved covid measures about managing headlines not public health with those ridicule us mask mandates, especially for kids. being purely pulitzer rather than medical . they rather than medical. they covered our faces to cover their with a being seen to do something policy throughout the pandemic . well, what did they do pandemic. well, what did they do . they destroyed the country by trying to defeat a virus. how arrogant , reckless and deluded arrogant, reckless and deluded can you get. the brave medics scientists, broadcasters and others who called this madness out , who others who called this madness out, who questioned all of these policies, who spoke of the long

term economic and health consequences . they were shouted consequences. they were shouted down, abused, ostracised, and sometimes lost their careers. except in my view, they've been proved right throughout the pandemic. from day , i questioned pandemic. from day, i questioned the wisdom , this wild experiment the wisdom, this wild experiment culminating in my destruction of a face mask at the hands of a pair of scissors on my old radio show. it created one of the viral moments of the pandemic, no pun , and it broke the no pun, and it broke the internet . i rest easy no pun, and it broke the internet. i rest easy in my bed in the knowledge that i'm on record as having pulled out this madness. these protests by myself and plenty of others which have aged better than jane fonda, were all sadly in vain. the government, egged on by sage and her majesty's opposition pursued lock down after lockdown after lockdown when it became increasingly the measures were highly and questionable in their efficacy. all compliance was

part of the problem and it's been reported that number 10. we're amazed were incredulous that the public were willing to go along with the restrictions . go along with the restrictions. well more fool us. we complied with the restrictions to make them end . but our compliance them end. but our compliance meant they never did. three years ago this week, the free world lost its mind. in my view, it's the biggest public health mistake in history and its legacy be decades of diminished damaged and lost lives. legacy be decades of diminished damaged and lost lives . all of damaged and lost lives. all of the economics societal and health carnage we're now through, including . 140,000 through, including. 140,000 so—called ghost children who left school never to come back is because we to stop a virus. the end everyone got . three the end everyone got. three weeks to flatten the curve became. three years to flatten the country. never again .

the country. never again. there you go . now do you think there you go. now do you think the government would argue that vaccine mandates masking and lockdowns saved thousands of lives and prevented the nhs from being overwhelmed? support for these measures came from vast majority of scientists and medical experts. it's not my view. i think it was a mistake. most experts would say i'm wrong. what's your view, mark at gbnews.uk ? let's get reaction gbnews.uk? let's get reaction now from my top pundits on mark dolan tonight delighted to have deputy editor of conservativehome henry hill help journalist and broadcaster stephanie techy , former editor stephanie techy, former editor of labour list the wonderful, the one and only pizza, edwards . stephanie, can i start with three is on a very unhappy anniversary. yeah and i was just thinking about just the irony of it all, mark, the fact that we've had our former prime minister now accepting responsibility for flouting his own lockdown rules and for own

party great scandals . and, you party great scandals. and, you know, i've always seen the country as a liberal country and rightly give up our freedoms dunng rightly give up our freedoms during the pandemic for the greater good to help our fellow man . but now, three years on, man. but now, three years on, i think to myself, was it really worth it? we've got a crippling economy now. the nhs is on knees. countless people didn't get diagnosed for conditions and have died. so that's been a pandemic in itself and mental health crisis. people needed help, were left isolated and to their own devices where actually needed society. then so i think, you know what, i just hope in my lifetime again i never have to hear the word lockdown. i hope our spirits can become a bit more like the french and just say . and, you know, just say no. and, you know, just really act to what the really we act to what the government tries give us. i don't think they could ever try and experiment we've and experiment like that. we've doneit and experiment like that. we've done it the greater good, done it for the greater good, but now we are paying for the price. there you go. the bilingual stephanie peter bilingual stephanie takyi peter edwards. three weeks to flatten the curve became three years to

flatten country . i'm not flatten the country. i'm not sure that's really a fair dialysis three dialysis at all because three years on, in a remarkably years on, we're in a remarkably different position, even from the of disastrous position the end of disastrous position and i wouldn't say that clearly. we've crisis, but we've got a costly crisis, but i mean, don't go off on a party mean, i don't go off on a party political rant. the cost of living crisis , you know, the living crisis, you know, the roots of that are ten years in the making on the conservatives to do with paying healthy people to do with paying healthy people to at home, on and off for two and half borrowing half and a half years, borrowing half £1,000,000,000,000 or borrowing is clearly issue. but is clearly massive issue. but remember, is clearly massive issue. but remenwell, before covid know, well, before covid borrowed that than borrowed more at that point than any british any chancellor in british history, was meant to be history, and he was meant to be man public finances. man the public finances. he borrowed chancellor borrowed than any chancellor ever. nothing comparable to covid sales . a borrowing covid sales. a borrowing problem. there was of problem. there was cost of living problem had covid living problem for we had covid and you can't just live and before you can't just live with one thought there was even at end of lockdown three at the end of lockdown three major support and major pretty public support and cross—party support for lockdown and were wrong and and the public were wrong and we're paying price . well we're now paying the price. well i wouldn't say that at all. and there was majority support, but we our own judgement. we will form our own judgement. i right thing to

i think it is the right thing to do. henry, think that we do. henry, i just think that we have data now. can look have the data now. you can look at countries had strict at countries that had strict covid versus countries covid measures versus countries that afford or chose that couldn't afford to or chose to. not there's no difference. and in some cases, stricter countries had worse outcomes . so countries had worse outcomes. so obviously definitely some obviously we definitely some things very wrong about way that we handled covid. i think especially with regards to things like schools, quite things like schools, it's quite clear were getting those clear that we were getting those cost wrong. but cost benefit analysis wrong. but i important thing to i think the important thing to remember not just remember that it's not just the covid rules the only covid rules aren't the only variable. there's other variable. there's also other things states of other things like the states of other countries systems. i countries care systems. and i think the fact especially think the fact is, especially early think the way may be early on, i think the way may be lasted long, but early lasted too long, but early on we were on at almost full were on the nhs at almost full capacity at all times, slack capacity at all times, no slack in system. so we hadn't in the system. so we hadn't taken measures to try and flatten curve the result flatten the curve the result would have been a huge demand for nhs services at the start of the pandemic. a very vulnerable people whom we would not have been able treat. and it may been able to treat. and it may been able to treat. and it may be that overall over the life of the roughly same the pandemic, roughly same number would have number of people would have died. some died. and we have avoided some of long term consequences in of the long term consequences in terms health all

terms of mental health and all the it. but we would in the rest of it. but we would in those early weeks, i think, have had a lot of people dying in nhs hospitals because couldn't hospitals because they couldn't get don't think get in. and i just don't think that politically survivable for any of any government, regardless of the kind of cold. and now we've got list of 7 million got a waiting list of 7 million people, we've cancer care people, we've got a cancer care and in people, we've got a cancer care andin end people, we've got a cancer care and in end covid focussed, and in the end covid focussed, focussed on older people average age of death. sadly over 80. it was a disease whose threat was very clear in terms of the population . quick question from population. quick question from all three of you. henry you think the public would swallow future do. i think future lockdowns? i do. i think if at the polling, the if you at the polling, the british people generally british people are generally very this kind of very board with this kind of thing. you with thing. whether you agree with them a very them or not, it's a very authoritative country. yeah. clearly the government need, a big campaign around and big comms campaign around it and personally it must personally and i think it must pass. hope to never pass. we hope to never have a lot of a lockdown. no one wants it. but there was public and there would be again there there would be again if there was national crisis, was enough a national crisis, which was . which is certainly was. stephanie, what do you think with public future measures, with the public future measures, would you. i would in a sense, future measures? i know. why

would you take to the streets? maybe as a prude, cos don't maybe as a prude, cos i don't think i'll get away with it. maybe be interviewing the maybe i'll be interviewing the people who are to the people who are taking to the streets, you know, people who are taking to the strthe., you know, people who are taking to the strthe government's'ou know, people who are taking to the strthe government's defence ', people who are taking to the strthe government's defence no in the government's defence no one had lived through a pandemic before. it was territory before. it was new territory for us. but now that we have three lockdowns, i think was lockdowns, i think if there was to be fourth one. think to be a fourth one. i think there needs be a better there needs to be a better measure and a better strategy ahead the public. ahead for the public. okay. brilliant stuff. coming up brilliant stuff. well, coming up in the french in the big story, the french have taken to the streets. they're not happy. changes to pension arrangements. why do we take everything lying in this country? should brits be more like french. that's .

next well, a big reaction to big opinion. and it was all the three year anniversary of the first covid lockdown. the moment the free world lost its mind . is the free world lost its mind. is this from janet mock? you said

it so well i agree with every word of big opinion shaking head about the shenanigans of the last three years. take care . last three years. take care. that's from janet. thank you, janet . jackie says hi, mark. janet. jackie says hi, mark. you're big opinion was spot on as usual . the government you're big opinion was spot on as usual. the government has destroyed our country to story , destroyed our country to story, destroyed our country to story, destroyed businesses and destroyed businesses and destroyed our young people's education. we can never believe the bs that they spew ever again . and as for the nhs, what a joke everything was to protect the nhs. but they won't protect us on lockdown. so you call out lockdowns, says an unnamed emailer . and restrictions and emailer. and restrictions and masks. but you took the jabs, dupuchous masks. but you took the jabs, duplicitous mr. dolan? yeah well, i was a victim of vaccine tyranny, let me tell you. i wanted to travel, so i had to get the jabs. never again. and how about this, pat says mark, the covid measures did because the covid measures did because the objective was to bankrupt the objective was to bankrupt the country. if you owe 3 trillion, you forfeit your

sovereignty. that's from pat . sovereignty. that's from pat. and steve says, mark, those measures saved lives end of okay folks brilliant stuff. now we all saw on twitter three years after boris johnson first shut the country down, were lockdowns a mistake? the votes are in. 75% say yes. lockdowns were a mistake. 25% say no . now, king mistake. 25% say no. now, king charles has had to postpone his planned visit to france, widespread and at times street protests against the raising of the pension. we're and age to 67 many are shocked by the loss of and order on the streets of paris. but others see it as an exercise in democracy and people power given the fact that in britain we've the pension retirement age even higher than what's being proposed macron in france without so much as a squeak from the public . do we squeak from the public. do we need to be more french and stand up to governments inflicting unpopular policies on the public ? do us brits take much at lying down to discuss ? i'm delighted down to discuss? i'm delighted to welcome the leader , the to welcome the leader, the heritage party. david and former

ukip mep godfrey bloom, we'll start with you cuts. and do you think the brits to compliance . i think the brits to compliance. i think the brits to compliance. i think on this issue with pensions i don't think it's something that people see as imminent and is going to make an imminent and is going to make an imminent immediate detrimental to their finances whereas . you to their finances whereas. you know in france i think it is the pensions are going up from 62 to 64. i don't know over what time frame here in the they're going up they went up last a couple of years ago. they're going up later this decade. but people have seemed to be resigned to this . when you have things this. when you do have things that have an imminent, immediate effect , then people do go out on effect, then people do go out on the streets in this country and they do protest. i mean, there were riots know were the poll tax riots know aboutin were the poll tax riots know about in 1990. there were the energy price protests 2000. i think also another example of people went out on the streets as well. i was involved in over the last three years in protesting freedom. the freedom rallies , lockdowns and so on and

rallies, lockdowns and so on and against vaccine mandates. there were hundreds of thousands of people month , month after month people month, month after month in london and around the country going out to protest about that . but they were largely peaceful , except when the riot police went in and attacked the protesters. and that's what we're seeing in france, i think actually the vast majority of the people who are protesting about pensions which is a real issue to the french people, you are seeing the violence there not from the people but from the riot police are going in and they are really being very, very aggressive in, doing things that should not be happening in a western democracy. indeed, godfrey bloom what's your reaction to what's in france and parallels with how the british respond to unpopular policies ? respond to unpopular policies? well, david, course is right. he's mentioned the poll tax riots. could you could also mention the liverpool riots , the mention the liverpool riots, the northside riots . and of course, northside riots. and of course, if it is violent , the sad thing, if it is violent, the sad thing, if it is violent, the sad thing, if it's violent when the

liverpool riots happened , liverpool riots happened, michael heseltine rushed up there with his chequebook as soon as his forces carry out and the poll tax riots took , they the poll tax riots took, they were violent and poll tax was abandoned . and now there are abandoned. and now there are nine it's it seems there could be 9 million people taking to the streets all over france, not just paris . the streets all over france, not just paris. now this is rather amusing actually. i little chuckle about this earlier. i wonder explained to king charles that he couldn't go because so opinions of people on the streets protesting because he would have said no surely not i was the bbc regular and they can't so because none of this has been reported and so i wonder who broke that news to his poor little fellow who lives in a bubble of sick fans around him, watching only the bbc as so. consequently, he would be sitting at home now rather bewildered . so i think perhaps bewildered. so i think perhaps you might refer to rudyard

kipling as wonderful poem, but where anglo—saxon we all slow , where anglo—saxon we all slow, we are slow to take off we're very slow for violence . we don't very slow for violence. we don't like sort of thing in this country and that's probably because nobody's invaded us for a thousand years until i suppose possibly recently. dover and so we tend to be a little bit complacent. we are a complacent nafion complacent. we are a complacent nation and i think that's a problem. i also did might be interested in this. david mark yourselves . i decided because i yourselves. i decided because i couldn't understand a lot of this i did a smiths in psychology course over the winter a long distance one of these courses to try and work out why people think as they do. mark, you just spoke to people on the on the sofa there who refused to join the dots . all refused to join the dots. all the evidence is there now everything is there that . you everything is there that. you need statistically the data is out, but they're still sticking to this ludicrous idea that it was all broadly speaking, a good idea . there was nothing to do. idea. there was nothing to do. they couldn't do anything about

it. they're also that it was a one off. it was a first, which is ridiculous because was around in 1968 when there was a much bigger flu crisis with more deaths and it was much worse. so, yes, had lived through it before and we it just like the swedes had this time around and it better . so we have it was better. so we have a nafion it was better. so we have a nation doesn't join the dots and in my smithsonian courses i did a parody they say it it's probably western european thing it could be global thing. i don't know that 80% of the people, 80% of the people will just about everything that the authority tells them to do that. they just will swallow all that and they will. the sort of people sitting on your bench, they will believe anything the government says if it's delivered with a straight face. and this is the problem that we have 20% of people don't i took no notice of the lockdown i didn't have the job so i never a mask and i built a pub on the back of my smallholding right

through all the lockdowns and the whole came and we got and the whole came and we got and the way we handled it, because i'm one the 20, it doesn't i'm one of the 20, it doesn't people me what do . fair people tell me what to do. fair enough. course i have a enough. now, of course i have a responsibility as a national to say that we must uphold the rule of law. you don't break the law because that's the great thing about this country. but, david how do you respond to what godfrey has just said there about the brits being too compliant i think compliant as well? i think godfrey is right, actually. i mean , i think we were far too mean, i think we were far too compliant. the lockdown period in particular, and people went along with laws were along with laws which were repugnant to our constitution and to our freedoms. you know, we have the fundamental to have the freedom speech, freedom of assembly, freedom to protest. and i think there is place for civil disobedience . it's when a civil disobedience. it's when a government starts act in a tyrannical manner. government starts act in a tyrannical manner . we don't want tyrannical manner. we don't want to live in an orwellian society. and that's what to be brought in at the beginning of lockdown and later on with the vaccine,

passports and no job, no job rules where we no care. home workers be put out of a job. and then they tried to get nurses and doctors in the nhs put out of a job as well just for exercising their right, not to be with an experimental injection of m rna and if that is what the government's doing then you know, actually we have a duty to freedom, we have a duty ourselves and to the general asians coming after us to protest against the government. but the government says you're not allowed protest, you're not allowed to assemble . you're not allowed to assemble. they actually made it illegal to gather in groups of more six at some point, at some times even more than two people. i nearly got a £200 fine for talking two other people in richmond park in february 2021. i remember it well and i didn't. february 2021. i remember it well and i didn't . the end and well and i didn't. the end and most of these fines were given out were squashed by the courts because they really used that. they were just repugnant to

every standard and common law that exists. but we do have a duty sometimes to engage in civil disobedience when these kind of things happen. and we do have a tradition of that in this country and it's called free, says we don't get to that place quickly. but when people realise that something needs to be done to uphold and maintain our way of life and our freedoms and values that our nation is built , then it's right to do that thing. i absolutely think it is right to do to protest in that way . and david kurtz and godfrey way. and david kurtz and godfrey bloom , brilliant debate. what do bloom, brilliant debate. what do you think, mark gb news dot uk . you think, mark gb news dot uk. of course, it's worth pointing out, but the vaccine was tested and approved by the authorities , many would argue it's now the most tested vaccine in history, given the fact that the billions of people around the world have had the jab. but it's all about opinions. let me know you opinions. let me know what you all says. at gb news .uk. all says. mark at gb news .uk. coming with the pundits a few

big topics to get through in should work lawyers who won't prosecute eco protesters be struck off. should parents find their children from using social and have the tories the corner. that's next .

next three years on, many of you not happy about the covid restrictions of course, it was yesterday. the three year anniversary of the first lockdown. david says evening, mark. your guest, godfrey bloom , is 100% right in all. he says . and i'm one of the 20% who did not follow the rules. it's about time we started looking at the source of all this is not the mps source of all this is not the mp5 it source of all this is not the mps it was to orchestrate it to be the mp. let's go to the top of this pyramid and expose . of this pyramid and expose. david, thank you for that. steve says godfrey is now my new hero.

i've been campaigning against this nonsense years. i've seen the proof . keep up the good work the proof. keep up the good work that steve and france where of course, they've lost . law and course, they've lost. law and order here. here. to you, mark. and to godfrey especially godfrey's comment. i wish we lived in his village his pub in his orchard sounded great. and david as well. i agree with every word that you've said about the management, the pandemic, a complete disaster. that from faye. keep those emails coming market gb news my punst emails coming market gb news my pundits tonight the best in the business. journalist and broadcaster stephanie , techy broadcaster stephanie, techy political commentator and former editor of labour list peter and the deputy editor conservativehome henry hill. now the tories could win the next general election, according to the editor of the spectator magazine , fraser nelson. this magazine, fraser nelson. this comes as a delta poll survey revealed the conservatives are up points on 35 points. rishi sunak's success in sealing a brexit deal and the government's

small boats policy seems to be helping . so is fraser nelson helping. so is fraser nelson right ? the tories turned a right? the tories turned a corner , henry. i mean , you have corner, henry. i mean, you have to hope so. i think it's important to stress, of course, that some of this recovery simply that on the on the liz truss the tories really did make a concerted effort to their polling low as possible. polling as low as possible. and to extent sunak is to an extent rishi sunak is benefiting a reversion to benefiting from a reversion to the mean perhaps but he has achieved some significant some significant progress. the windsor not windsor framework is not perfect, it's better deal perfect, but it's a better deal than people thought we would get. and he is seems be get. and he is seems to be making on small boats. but there's a long way to go until the election. the windsor framework has not brought northern devolution framework has not brought north so devolution framework has not brought north so could volution framework has not brought north so could yet rtion framework has not brought north so could yet upn framework has not brought north so could yet up in framework has not brought norface could yet up in framework has not brought norface and could yet up in framework has not brought norface and he uld yet up in framework has not brought norface and he may'et up in framework has not brought norface and he may 110le in his face and he may not actually get boat crossings down. well, dan has been busy on dan hodges has been very busy on twitter today. there's a clear he says henry developing . he says henry developing. labour's lead is still substantial , but it's clear that substantial, but it's clear that rishi sunak is beginning to claw back ground. so the election uk poll via omni says from the 23rd

and 24th of march says that labour on 44, which is down to the tories, up 4 to 29. the tory party, the tory polling is recovering and rishi sunak can get a lot of the credit for that. and if he can keep it up over that, over next year, then it could be a much election than anyone expecting. i still think at the moment that we should expect some of labour and expect some kind of labour and labour victory. also labour victory. but it's also if you look way the you look at the way the government actually running government is actually running the sorts of brutal the pushing sorts of brutal spend 2025, 2026. spend decisions into 2025, 2026. if actually look at jeremy if you actually look at jeremy hunfs if you actually look at jeremy hunt's budget, so he's not governing as he expects to governing as if he expects to win election. if the win the election. and if the tories do pull off surprise tories do pull off a surprise win, all decisions. win, then all of the decisions. jeremy hunt's made over the last few weeks are going to come back to really, really to bite them really, really hard. fraser. fraser hard. fraser of fraser. fraser peter. a is keir peter. peter is a is keir starmer looking over his shoulder. think labour have shoulder. i think labour have never been complacent. that's something i've maybe said on this if labour had this show. if when labour had a lead of up to points that lead of up to 25 points that really masked fact. there are a lot of undecideds within that polling you strip out the

polling when you strip out the undecideds the always looks a bit closer . undecideds the always looks a bit closer. when i work for a shadow cabinet minister, ed miliband frequently had lead well over ten points and i think well over ten points and i think we all remember that experi in terms of number of seats in house of commons, labour went backwards ed miliband. backwards under ed miliband. so i've felt contest. i i've always felt a contest. i think kevin henry sounded a little bit fatalistic , is always little bit fatalistic, is always going to be a tough fight for labour because labour's , you labour because labour's, you know, you've talked about the liz point in the polling, liz truss point in the polling, but in terms of the parliamentary mathematics and labour's point is labour's starting point is abysmal because we did so badly on the corbyn. so i think it is a contest but i think rishi sunaki a contest but i think rishi sunak i disagree with lots of things. i think cost of living is but he calm is is disaster. but he calm is sober,is is disaster. but he calm is sober , is rational. the northern sober, is rational. the northern ireland winter framework is a step forward for the whole united kingdom. i think people are suffering big time in terms of cost of living but labour have been complacent and is back to being a contest, isn't it?

stephanie i get to your story next, but briefly this i wonder whether this leads to a messy hungin whether this leads to a messy hung in a year's time. does we've tried a hung parliament before and it didn't work in the past and i think right now what this country needs is a clear we need to be with one party or the other . i need to be with one party or the other. i think we need a party who's got a strong. and at the moment it's like the conservatives. i think that go now approximately 120 top lawyers are set to sign a declaration of conscience to avoid prosecuting climate zealots in courts on behalf of clients working in oil gas. the leading barristers have accused of undermining the fair legal representation convention . so representation convention. so should work lawyers who won't extinction rebellion protesters be struck ? stephanie no , i don't be struck? stephanie no, i don't think they should be struck off , actually, because i think in life before any of us decides what profession going to do in life, we human beings , i like to life, we human beings, i like to think human beings a conscience.

and i think, you know , it's and i think, you know, it's actually quite more at interpol that these lawyers have actually standing, not doing their job. no, no. she's this is the politicisation of the job. i would rather them what they don't want to get involved with. and if to do with climate. and it's a course close to their heart. i think it's for them for them to say actually we don't want to be involved in that and leave to the job, to the people who do want to do it and we help prosecute as well and prosecute . accept ofsted . schools won't accept ofsted inspections. the countries , it's inspections. the countries, it's definitely challenging time. this is a i think a dangerous, dangerous move. it's not necessarily right to them off as long as it doesn't impede the functioning of the justice system. know, it is system. you know, it is perfectly that the refusing to take these there will be other there other who and there will be other who will and they but it's the they will benefit. but it's the case people deserve and case that people who deserve and need representation to need legal representation to work through our court system. can't then. yes, the can't get it then. yes, the government act, government would have to act, but it also the covering principle important when principle is important when people someone

people attack someone for defending murderer or defending an alleged murderer or an alleged rapist, they can point to the copyright principle and can say, look everybody and they can say, look everybody deserves representation . deserves fair representation. the picking the moment you start picking and, choosing that defence cracks, and all of a sudden lawyers are going to be being hammered for people who may have done evil things, but who do deserve legal representation. and think, where the and that's, i think, where the real here is. okay. now, real danger here is. okay. now, the pop star pink, who is a mother of two, admitted in a recent interview that she will not allow her 11 year old daughter a phone until she not allow her 11 year old dau�*prove a phone until she not allow her 11 year old dau�*prove social|one until she not allow her 11 year old dau�*prove social is|e until she not allow her 11 year old dau�*prove social is goodil she not allow her 11 year old dau�*prove social is good forhe can prove social is good for her. she further it was to keep her. she further it was to keep her children's innocence. so should parents their children from using social. peter asked , from using social. peter asked, hoping so much. she's asked me about barristers and a nice, sensible something like that. rather you are father to how many? i'm a father of one. brilliant. could you say the age six plus we can. all right. so it's a little boy, isn't it? that's right, chip out of a clumsy, handsome little devil saw him in the in the corridors of gb news the other day. fine

lad. congratulate will he be depnved lad. congratulate will he be deprived a mobile when deprived a mobile phone when he's older? well well, i'll spare the of talking spare him the ordeal of talking personally national telly in personally on national telly in terms of kids more broadly , i terms of kids more broadly, i think there are real risks perhaps, you know, anyone of our generation didn't have . i have generation didn't have. i have to admit, i think we're all in our thirties or forties. to admit, i think we're all in our thirties or forties . well, i our thirties or forties. well, i think we're all addicted to a certain extent, always on mobile phones. and we didn't imagine our social life or , our work our social life or, our work life being like that. but we are a bit addicted and we feel a bit jittery when the device is taken away from us. i'd love to get rid of mine. so i think the longer we can keep our kids away from that, the better. and i think tiktok been in the think tiktok has been in the headunes think tiktok has been in the headlines now, of headlines for now, kind of national security and chinese element this week, but also there's another element which is just is intellectual food. stuffing is more , more and more. stuffing is more, more and more. it has wrought your brain a little bit. well, do we need a government sort of advertising campaign to get all of us off our smartphones? stephanie no, i

don't think i think it's going to fall our mark. i think it's become addiction now become such deadly addiction now . like even when i see when i'm playing with my children from age five and above, they're glued their phones, they're glued to their phones, they're glued to their phones, they're glued ipads it's like glued to their ipads it's like communication doesn't stimulate them unless it's coming them anymore unless it's coming from a screen. so to then have government to promote it to government then to promote it to us again via a screen . it's gone us again via a screen. it's gone late. it's up to parents to lay down the laws. i believe it always starts at home. kids obey what parents say . i think what their parents say. i think when we expose our kids social media, they're now , you know, at media, they're now, you know, at the hands of online bullying, whether it's been going in by gangs and you've seen cases before in the past, mark of youngsters who are dying by suicide because they cannot achieve this perfect sheen which has been made out on social media, which is all fake. i would ask henry what he thinks but he's currently on snapchat so what with his besties coming up in the next hour my guess is the priest and bestselling author bartlett galley who tells

how god can survive the 21st century and why priests are no angels. see you .

next three years on, many of you not happy about the covid restrictions of course, it was yesterday. the three year anniversary of the first lockdown. david says evening, mark. your guest, godfrey bloom , is 100% right in all. he says . and i'm one of the 20% who did not follow the rules. it's about time we started looking at the source of all this is not the mps source of all this is not the mp5 it source of all this is not the mps it was to orchestrate it to be the mp. let's go to the top of this pyramid and expose . of this pyramid and expose. david, thank you for that. steve says godfrey is now my new hero. i've been campaigning against this nonsense years. i've seen the proof . keep up the good work the proof. keep up the good work that steve and france where of course, they've lost . law and course, they've lost. law and order here. here. to you, mark.

and to godfrey especially godfrey's comment. i wish we lived in his village his pub in his orchard sounded great. and david as well. i agree with every word that you've said about the management, the pandemic, a complete disaster. that from faye. keep those emails coming market gb news my punst emails coming market gb news my pundits tonight the best in the business. journalist and broadcaster stephanie , techy broadcaster stephanie, techy political commentator and former editor of labour list peter and the deputy editor conservativehome henry hill. now the tories could win the next general election, according to the editor of the spectator magazine , fraser nelson. this magazine, fraser nelson. this comes as a delta poll survey revealed the conservatives are up points on 35 points. rishi sunak's success in sealing a brexit deal and the government's small boats policy seems to be helping . so is fraser nelson helping. so is fraser nelson right ? the tories turned a right? the tories turned a corner , henry. i mean , you have corner, henry. i mean, you have to hope so. i think it's

important to stress, of course, that some of this recovery simply that on the on the liz truss the tories really did make a concerted effort to their polling low as possible. polling as low as possible. and to extent sunak is to an extent rishi sunak is benefiting a reversion to benefiting from a reversion to the mean perhaps but he has achieved some significant some significant progress. the windsor not windsor framework is not perfect, it's better deal perfect, but it's a better deal than people thought we would get. and he is seems be get. and he is seems to be making on small boats. but there's a long way to go until the election. the windsor framework has not brought northern devolution framework has not brought north so devolution framework has not brought north so could volution framework has not brought north so could yet rtion framework has not brought north so could yet upn framework has not brought north so could yet up in framework has not brought norface could yet up in framework has not brought norface and could yet up in framework has not brought norface and he uld yet up in framework has not brought norface and he may'et up in framework has not brought norface and he may 110le in his face and he may not actually get boat crossings down. well, dan has been busy on dan hodges has been very busy on twitter today. there's a clear he says henry developing . he says henry developing. labour's lead is still substantial , but it's clear that substantial, but it's clear that rishi sunak is beginning to claw back ground. so the election uk poll via omni says from the 23rd and 24th of march says that labour on 44, which is down to the tories, up 4 to 29. the tory party, the tory polling is

recovering and rishi sunak can get a lot of the credit for that. and if he can keep it up over that, over next year, then it could be a much election than anyone expecting. i still think at the moment that we should expect some of labour and expect some kind of labour and labour victory. also labour victory. but it's also if you look way the you look at the way the government actually running government is actually running the sorts of brutal the pushing sorts of brutal spend 2025, 2026. spend decisions into 2025, 2026. if actually look at jeremy if you actually look at jeremy hunfs if you actually look at jeremy hunt's budget, so he's not governing as he expects to governing as if he expects to win election. if the win the election. and if the tories do pull off surprise tories do pull off a surprise win, all decisions. win, then all of the decisions. jeremy hunt's made over the last few weeks are going to come back to really, really to bite them really, really hard. fraser. fraser hard. fraser of fraser. fraser peter. a is keir peter. peter is a is keir starmer looking over his shoulder. think labour have shoulder. i think labour have never been complacent. that's something i've maybe said on this if labour had this show. if when labour had a lead of up to points that lead of up to 25 points that really masked fact. there are a lot of undecideds within that polling you strip out the polling when you strip out the undecideds the always looks a bit closer . undecideds the always looks a bit closer. when i work for a shadow cabinet minister, ed miliband frequently had lead well over ten points and i think well over ten points and i think we all remember that experi in

terms of number of seats in house of commons, labour went backwards ed miliband. backwards under ed miliband. so i've felt contest. i i've always felt a contest. i think kevin henry sounded a little bit fatalistic , is always little bit fatalistic, is always going to be a tough fight for labour because labour's , you labour because labour's, you know, you've talked about the liz point in the polling, liz truss point in the polling, but in terms of the parliamentary mathematics and labour's point is labour's starting point is abysmal because we did so badly on the corbyn. so i think it is a contest but i think rishi sunaki a contest but i think rishi sunak i disagree with lots of things. i think cost of living is but he calm is is disaster. but he calm is sober,is is disaster. but he calm is sober , is rational. the northern sober, is rational. the northern ireland winter framework is a step forward for the whole united kingdom. i think people are suffering big time in terms of cost of living but labour have been complacent and is back to being a contest, isn't it? stephanie i get to your story next, but briefly this i wonder whether this leads to a messy hungin whether this leads to a messy hung in a year's time. does we've tried a hung parliament before and it didn't work in the

past and i think right now what this country needs is a clear we need to be with one party or the other . i need to be with one party or the other. i think we need a party who's got a strong. and at the moment it's like the conservatives. i think that go now approximately 120 top lawyers are set to sign a declaration of conscience to avoid prosecuting climate zealots in courts on behalf of clients working in oil gas. the leading barristers have accused of undermining the fair legal representation convention . so representation convention. so should work lawyers who won't extinction rebellion protesters be struck ? stephanie no , i don't be struck? stephanie no, i don't think they should be struck off , actually, because i think in life before any of us decides what profession going to do in life, we human beings , i like to life, we human beings, i like to think human beings a conscience. and i think, you know , it's and i think, you know, it's actually quite more at interpol that these lawyers have actually standing, not doing their job. no, no. she's this is the politicisation of the job. i

would rather them what they don't want to get involved with. and if to do with climate. and it's a course close to their heart. i think it's for them for them to say actually we don't want to be involved in that and leave to the job, to the people who do want to do it and we help prosecute as well and prosecute . accept ofsted . schools won't accept ofsted inspections. the countries , it's inspections. the countries, it's definitely challenging time. this is a i think a dangerous, dangerous move. it's not necessarily right to them off as long as it doesn't impede the functioning of the justice system. know, it is system. you know, it is perfectly that the refusing to take these there will be other there other who and there will be other who will and they but it's the they will benefit. but it's the case people deserve and case that people who deserve and need representation to need legal representation to work through our court system. can't then. yes, the can't get it then. yes, the government act, government would have to act, but it also the covering principle important when principle is important when people someone people attack someone for defending murderer or defending an alleged murderer or an alleged rapist, they can point to the copyright principle and can say, look everybody and they can say, look everybody deserves representation . deserves fair representation. the picking the moment you start picking and, choosing that defence

cracks, and all of a sudden lawyers are going to be being hammered for people who may have done evil things, but who do deserve legal representation. and think, where the and that's, i think, where the real here is. okay. now, real danger here is. okay. now, the pop star pink, who is a mother of two, admitted in a recent interview that she will not allow her 11 year old daughter a phone until she not allow her 11 year old dau�*prove a phone until she not allow her 11 year old dau�*prove social|one until she not allow her 11 year old dau�*prove social is|e until she not allow her 11 year old dau�*prove social is goodil she not allow her 11 year old dau�*prove social is good forhe can prove social is good for her. she further it was to keep her. she further it was to keep her children's innocence. so should parents their children from using social. peter asked , from using social. peter asked, hoping so much. she's asked me about barristers and a nice, sensible something like that. rather you are father to how many? i'm a father of one. brilliant. could you say the age six plus we can. all right. so it's a little boy, isn't it? that's right, chip out of a clumsy, handsome little devil saw him in the in the corridors of gb news the other day. fine lad. congratulate will he be depnved lad. congratulate will he be deprived a mobile when deprived a mobile phone when he's older? well well, i'll spare the of talking spare him the ordeal of talking personally national telly in personally on national telly in terms of kids more broadly , i terms of kids more broadly, i think there are real risks

perhaps, you know, anyone of our generation didn't have . i have generation didn't have. i have to admit, i think we're all in our thirties or forties. to admit, i think we're all in our thirties or forties . well, i our thirties or forties. well, i think we're all addicted to a certain extent, always on mobile phones. and we didn't imagine our social life or , our work our social life or, our work life being like that. but we are a bit addicted and we feel a bit jittery when the device is taken away from us. i'd love to get rid of mine. so i think the longer we can keep our kids away from that, the better. and i think tiktok been in the think tiktok has been in the headunes think tiktok has been in the headlines now, of headlines for now, kind of national security and chinese element this week, but also there's another element which is just is intellectual food. stuffing is more , more and more. stuffing is more, more and more. it has wrought your brain a little bit. well, do we need a government sort of advertising campaign to get all of us off our smartphones? stephanie no, i don't think i think it's going to fall our mark. i think it's become addiction now become such deadly addiction now . like even when i see when i'm playing with my children from age five and above, they're glued their phones, they're

glued to their phones, they're glued to their phones, they're glued ipads it's like glued to their ipads it's like communication doesn't stimulate them unless it's coming them anymore unless it's coming from a screen. so to then have government to promote it to government then to promote it to us again via a screen . it's gone us again via a screen. it's gone late. it's up to parents to lay down the laws. i believe it always starts at home. kids obey what parents say . i think what their parents say. i think when we expose our kids social media, they're now , you know, at media, they're now, you know, at the hands of online bullying, whether it's been going in by gangs and you've seen cases before in the past, mark of youngsters who are dying by suicide because they cannot achieve this perfect sheen which has been made out on social media, which is all fake. i would ask henry what he thinks but he's currently on snapchat so what with his besties coming up in the next hour my guess is the priest and bestselling author bartlett galley who tells how god can survive the 21st century and why priests are no angels. see you .

down a it's 10:00 down a it's10:00 and this is mark dolan tonight my take it ten should tesco reverse their decision to reduce the value of points. the former employee and supermarket ceo will debate that . but i'm starting a campaign on monday and tonight to hashtag restore those clubcard points also the news maker as hard pressed brits struggle with the cost of living crisis is the world economy about to collapse? and why does it matter to you and me? we'll to a top economics expert . mark dolan tonight

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profit and financial rules, allowing to lose a maximum of hundred and £5 million over a three year period or face sanctions. in a club statement said they were disappointed by the premier league's decision . the premier league's decision. tv online dab+ radio and on tune in. this is a gb news. now it's back to . back to. mark my thanks to tatiana sanchez returns in an hour's time . returns in an hour's time. welcome to mark dolan tonight writes in the newsmaker hard pressed brits struggle the cost of living crisis . is the world of living crisis. is the world economy about to collapse ? and economy about to collapse? and why does it matter to you and? me? mark dolan tonight is the home of the papers with . home of the papers with. tomorrow's front pages from 1030 with the top pundits in the country and a new look . papers.

country and a new look. papers. you won't want to miss that a 1030 can set your watch to it . 1030 can set your watch to it. also, should liz truss be to give away honours afterjust 44 give away honours after just 44 days in power lost to get through a lively hour big stories, big guests and big opinions. let's start with take . a ten tesco . no the halo has . a ten tesco. no the halo has slept for britain's favourite supermarket as they reduce the value of clubcard points just when their millions of customers are struggling hardest with . a are struggling hardest with. a cost of living crisis. they're not alone. sainsbury's and boots have also reduced the value , have also reduced the value, their loyalty points and of course all businesses given raging inflation, they're feeling the pinch too. but i think this is a bad by their management because all it will do is send customers running into the arms of little and aldi and other discount retailers. people specifically choose to go

to and potentially pay a little more in the knowledge they're getting points back for every purchase and it was a smart business move in the first place to reward customers for their loyalty. so now is surely not the time to punish in this way. i'm a fan of all of our supermarkets , especially tesco. supermarkets, especially tesco. i love tesco , a great british i love tesco, a great british business, which employs thousands of people of ages and backgrounds and skill sets. tesco generates millions for the exchequer in tax and they offer an outstanding range of food, dnnks an outstanding range of food, drinks and are a champion of the best british produce. but this is an own goal of epic and on mark dolan tonight. is an own goal of epic and on mark dolan tonight . we implore mark dolan tonight. we implore tesco thousands of whose customers watch show to reinstate the value of clubcard points and help us all through these hard times. it's for tesco to dig a little deeper and dig themselves out of this crisis. now it's clear that tesco can't

compete with little and aldi in some areas, but customers will tolerate that in order to bank loyalty points in one of these cheeky little club cards. this is mine. i love it. it's credit card as well because just like britain, i love borrowing . but britain, i love borrowing. but this is the point. britain, i love borrowing. but this is the point . this moments this is the point. this moments is not tesco's finest and they risk customers going else to taste the difference what a basket case. there has to be a change at the heart of this company for tesco to u—turn . company for tesco to u—turn. this would be a pr triumph and a deep reassurance to millions of hard up brits. come on tesco . hard up brits. come on tesco. we're not asking for the earth , we're not asking for the earth, just a small concession . hashtag just a small concession. hashtag restore the points. after all every little helps . that's right every little helps. that's right , mark dolan tonight. we officially start the campaign to hashtag restore the points if

you want to join them, please tweet in on twitter with hashtag restore the points to at gb news. are you a clubcard holder? what do you think about this market? gb news dot uk. let me know your thoughts. in fairness to tesco, they haven't done the change and they will honour change yet and they will honour those that you might have those points that you might have accrued for many months to come. but changes coming. think but changes coming. and i think they the value they should keep the value currently. enjoy market gb news dot uk is the email get to your email but with me now email shortly, but with me now reacting to my take a ten is tesco's ever customer service director and former ceo of wickes and iceland bill grimsby. bill, great to have you on the show. you've been the ceo of two of my other favourites, wickes and iceland . do you think this and iceland. do you think this is an own goal by. no, i don't. so kick off with that. i mean, the fact is that you need to look to history to just understand what's going on. if you go back to the last we had a cost of living crisis and the kind of inflation we've got on

food today it was 1970 677. now tesco is a small supermarket chain in those days it had a loyalty scheme called shields stamps. now this is a history that you're probably too young to remember this, but i lived through it. now what happened then is ian mclaren persuaded then is ian mclaren persuaded the board to look at. this time people do want loyalty schemes , people do want loyalty schemes, they want lower prices . so let's they want lower prices. so let's ditch greenfields stamps and plough all of that investment into lower prices in the campaign. and it was called checkout 77. their market share went from 7% to 14% overnight and those are real numbers. it's 30% today. even back then, it that. now they couldn't cope and that. now they couldn't cope and that led to a big overhaul of the whole infrastructure and supply chain in order to create the tesco that we've got today. so roll forward the clock. what

do customers really . one at do customers really. one at a time when as a cost of living they want lower prices they don't want loyalty points they want lower today prices. so if tesco has got its head screwed right and is going announce following this reduction in the value points going forward an absolute basket of lower prices to all customers at this time it will work and i'm and what customers want. they don't want points they want lower prices. they can't afford to feed their kids. so, no, it's not nice viscerally what you think it is . i viscerally what you think it is .i hope viscerally what you think it is . i hope they're stood there strategically thinking, putting their customer first. and i said, first ever customer does direct a customer service director. i remember telling the board, we have put the customer in the heart of the border room and make decisions based on what they need going forward and what

britain needs going is less points and lower prices. now, bill, i defer to your as a top retailer, but there has been a backlash . many people have an backlash. many people have an emotional attachment to these club cards and they've been using them for years. it's a ritual. it's a habit, and it's all about a relationship with the brand. it is. and it worked very well at a time when price was lower down on the decision tree of where you're going to shop and it got loyalty . it's shop and it got loyalty. it's a loyalty scheme for loyal customers. get rewarded . not customers. get rewarded. not anymore. the well it depends on what they do . if they channel what they do. if they channel the savings that they're going to make on clubcard into a basket prices and let's face it tesco ought to be able to outstrip every on price but they have cross cost price pressures

like on energy star and all of that stuff. but the biggest purchaser of food and household consumable goods in the uk and they to be able to channel any savings that they make the clubcard into a campaign that says come on customers come and shop with us, no one else because we're the lowest price. and that over the three years is what people because mark inflation is not going away in the next year . inflation is not going away in the next year. phil has emailed mark it's not just tesco who are changing boots have advised me they're doing the same . jackie they're doing the same. jackie says tesco , nobody respects says tesco, nobody respects loyal customers anymore. time to get your scissors again, mark. make a stand. let's riot in the streets. i mean, there has been some anger . streets. i mean, there has been some anger. i take your point about lower prices. it's across the board . but then looking back the board. but then looking back into history, it was saints who were quite snobby about loyalty cards when tesco , their clubcard cards when tesco, their clubcard and in the and tesco won the

argument well it was sainsbury who failed in 1977 to recognise was needed which was lower pnces. was needed which was lower prices . so guess what happened prices. so guess what happened in 1978? i think old discount 78 by sainsbury's just kind of counter tesco now i think they're reacting to what tesco are doing, but if all these supermarkets say look, let's take a holiday on loyalty cards and the money we're spending channel into price for the benefit of great britain for the next three years. get inflation down, get us all back cooking on gas and then you can look to bringing back the kind stuff that you need. but let's face it, you and i probably don't have to look at whether we can put food the table or hate houses. put food the table or hate houses . but a lot of people , houses. but a lot of people, britain do. so if tesco going to use their power and leverage as

a result of this strategy and channel it into price, then they will probably come out winners and be respected by the uk public. bill only got a couple of seconds left . you raise an of seconds left. you raise an absolutely good point . how so absolutely good point. how so many of my viewers and listeners are struggling they're sometimes between food and heating homes. well we put it to our massive audience on. should tesco reverse the decision to reduce the value of clubcard points? and here is the result of that poll. do you think we're just going to get it up, because i think it's an interesting one. just to show you the strength of opinion. i know it's not scientific bill, but it's the sort of snapshot of gb news viewer and listener opinion should tesco clubcard points at 3% said they should reverse the decision so they're against what tesco have done. 17% have said no briefly if you can bill, how can that many people be wrong ? can that many people be wrong? well i'd like you to put out

another twitter question. should tesco channel the savings it's getting from clubcard in the lower prices for the uk public or should it reverse its decision? and i bet you you'll get a different answer . bill. a get a different answer. bill. a great honour to have a legend retail. thank you so much for your time. former ceo of lewis. i was hoping i'd get a free and a couple of spanners out of that. also, former ceo of iceland as well. and the first ever customer service director at tesco . let's have a look at at tesco. let's have a look at this. bill grimsby , thank you so this. bill grimsby, thank you so much for that, bill. fascinating your reaction market gb news dot uk. next up , a brand new item in uk. next up, a brand new item in the show. the news maker as hard brits struggle with the cost of living crisis. is the world about to collapse? why does that matter to you and me . about to collapse? why does that matter to you and me. is financial armageddon . find out financial armageddon. find out next. need to gb news is the sas day five. join us every saturday from 8 pm. as we debate the

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well, i tell you something. a very big reaction to my take at ten or mark dolan tonight, i'm starting a campaign to hashtag restore the points stats tesco and their clubcard . they're and their clubcard. they're reducing the value of points. we want to u—turn on that decision . there's a lot of support onune . there's a lot of support online , mark says. peter, you'll online, mark says. peter, you'll write about when they stop doing avios that reduced my loyalty and card expenditure by 75.

well, the other 25% is about to go . their checkouts are faster go. their checkouts are faster morrisons. but the meat and fish in the crowds. supermarkets is good value. i think peter there to little an aldi you guys don't pull your punches how about this from bernard . good evening from bernard. good evening bernard. how are you? thanks for emailing. show market gbnews.uk . it just goes to show. i'd most of our mps bill grimsby is out of our mps bill grimsby is out of touch . most people save up of touch. most people save up the clubcard points and use them over christmas or as a present, but therefore this is a disappointing policy. it should be reversed. i'll get some more of your emails shortly and we will. we'll get to more of your opinions. market but it's time now for this and other important topic . and it's a brand new item topic. and it's a brand new item on the show called, the newsmaker in which we tackle a story of the day in the company of a fearless commentator . so of a fearless commentator. so should we be worried about collapse seeing banks? why does

it matter to you me? sharp it matter to you and me? sharp declines in banking shares in europe have renewed concerns that the panic trevor triggered by the collapse of two us banks and the rush to takeover a swiss giant suisse may be the tip of the iceberg. shares in germany's deutsche fell by 14% at one point today, with other lenders also suffering big losses. stock in germany and france , big time in germany and france, big time . so should we be worried? is the world economy about to collapse? let's speak to one of america's most popular online talk show hosts. best selling author and economics expert, yaron brook. hi, yaron . hey, yaron brook. hi, yaron. hey, mark. how's going? i'm very well . the world economy about to fall over over . . the world economy about to fall over over. no, i don't think it's about to fall over. but we should all be worried. i think it's a we are entering into a period of economic slowdown . we're entering into a slowdown. we're entering into a penod slowdown. we're entering into a period of , i slowdown. we're entering into a period of, i think ultimately a lot of layoffs, companies shutting down. it's a it's a

time i. to be employed or to own a business or to be. to be involved in economic activities . i think of europe or uk and the united states in countries like britain and america. what do you think's going to happen to inflation? well, it seems like inflation is almost stubborn and people expected it to be quite as i responded so far to the rising interest rates. i ultimately think the fed, who is at the bank england will resolve the issue of inflation. it's to take some pain, though . this is not going pain, though. this is not going to be a free lunch. are no free lunches. we have to pay for the inflation we caused. we have to pay inflation we caused. we have to pay for the zero interest rate environment that has existed since the great financial crisis . now? 14 years ago, . what is it now? 14 years ago, we to pay for all the spending covid, the lockdown loans. the fact that people didn't work and they got money anyway . all of they got money anyway. all of that. there's there are no free lunchesin that. there's there are no free lunches in the world.

ultimately, what we're seeing today with inflation, the rising interest and i think the bankruptcies come as a consequence of the rising interest rates. that's the payment that is. and that is due. and this i don't think, any way to avert it . there be way to avert it. there be a banking crash likes of which we saw in 2008 and 2009. i think it's unlikely. think the banks are far better capitalised today than they were back then. i think that the have more liquidity. they had . they're liquidity. they had. they're doing better. what we've seen is a bank collapse in the united states but it's not of the magnitude of oh eight or nine. and i think as data comes out in the next few weeks, we will see that the banking crisis here it was probably an overselling and things are going to get things are to get better but i think this is just a symptom of something bigger. the banking crisis in the us. and to some extent credit and i fear deutsche bank a lot of this is a response rising interest rates

as rates rise the value assets goes down. as interest rates rise, the value of the bank loans go down, the value the treasury of the securities they goes down. but it's also true that as interest rates rise, it's harder for businesses to refinance their debt . it's refinance their debt. it's harder for people who own who want to buy a to get a mortgage at a reasonable price. everything everything every asset loses value and cost for people to those assets and to refinance those assets rises. and that's where you the problem you get the problem with banks who are underwater because a lot of their assets the value of the assets declined and you're going to problem with companies to get a problem with companies who to refinancing who are used to refinancing their debt at zero interest rates have to pay six, seven or eight nine, 10% interest rates. they afford that. they're going to have to lay people off. they're going to have to cut jobs. and some of them will go

bankrupt . the west has a debt bankrupt. the west has a debt problem , doesn't it? i mean, the problem, doesn't it? i mean, the uk national debt is two and a half trillion pounds. the us debtis half trillion pounds. the us debt is just unimaginably larger amount than that. we've got household governments are in debt. household governments are in debt . where's this going? where debt. where's this going? where does this and why should my viewers and listeners care? yaron well, because only way to reduce the debt , the only way reduce the debt, the only way put it this way, the only way that governments know to reduce the debt is by either raising your taxes all of you should care about that because it's not just going to be taxes on the so—called rich because there not enough of them and don't have enough of them and don't have enough money they going to have to tax everybody to reduce the debt. inflating the debt. it means inflating the currency. of currency. i mean, one of the things that happens when inflation the value inflation goes up is the value of debt goes down. one of the reasons governments inflate is to reduce the value of debt and who pays that? and inflation. inflation a hidden tax . it's inflation a hidden tax. it's a hidden tax on consumers. it's a

hidden tax on consumers. it's a hidden tax. everything everything you're paying now you're paying more for everything that you buy. that is a tax on your income, on your consumption on your saving. and ultimately , leigh, that is done ultimately, leigh, that is done in order to that government debt. so look, the only people who can reduce the government debt, us taxpayers, whether it's to inflation or to increase taxes, everybody should care about this. now, the rational way to reduce government debt is to cut spending . but that's the to cut spending. but that's the one thing nobody wants to talk about. that's the one thing politicians will never do . it politicians will never do. it reduces their power. it reduces the impact on all of our lives. and that's the one thing they don't touch. but we need today in the west is to shrink government , to get government government, to get government out of our lives, to get governments, to get the regulatory state to shrink . and regulatory state to shrink. and i know this is probably not very popular in britain, but to shnnk popular in britain, but to shrink welfare state. when you shnnk shrink welfare state. when you shrink welfare state. when you shrink welfare state. when you shrink welfare state and we need to encourage job creation,

encourage people to , get jobs encourage people to, get jobs and that's productivity will go up, wages go up and people need that wealth. well i completely agree with you, yaron . that was agree with you, yaron. that was the topic of my big opinion last sunday. britain lives beyond its means. find out yaron is such a big star in the united states. go to youtube for the yaron brook show . he's got thousands brook show. he's got thousands of subscribers , a bestselling of subscribers, a bestselling author as well. yaron will up soon. my thanks to yaron brook broadcaster and economics whiz. we've got the papers next new look in a brand new part of the studio with my top pundits. don't go anywhere .

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destruction if i'm charged, says trump also , immigrants could be trump also, immigrants could be moved from hotels . ferries is moved from hotels. ferries is another story in the daily telegraph. the times next chaos reigns in france , the king's reigns in france, the king's first state visit was abruptly called off today after president macron was warned it would becoming the target of an escalating nationwide revolt . escalating nationwide revolt. france, against his pension reforms . shocking scenes in reforms. shocking scenes in paris roofs and in paris smouldering heaps of rubbish littered the centre of the caphal littered the centre of the capital. after anger at president macron's pension reforms . daily express royal reforms. daily express royal tour axed after fears safety of king. the daily mail macron surrenders to the mob . french surrenders to the mob. french president emmanuel macron stood accused of bowing to tonight after he the king's visit to france . the french president has france. the french president has been left humiliate it as he fails to get a grip on driven riots that have lasted ten days. macron he was forced to call

king charles delay, the state visit, which have involved a banquet at the palace of versailles on monday evening . versailles on monday evening. the guardian . brutal ofsted the guardian. brutal ofsted regime drive us to quit warn school heads school leavers in england . school leaders in england. school leaders in england. school leaders in england say that they're being dnven england say that they're being driven out of the profession by punishing inspection regime, blaming a culture of fear and high stress for damaging their health and careers. king charles trip to france postponed . also trip to france postponed. also a story in the guardian . and story in the guardian. and phones could be removed . phones could be removed. theatres, audiences may have to handin theatres, audiences may have to hand in phones to prevent images of actors being taken during performance . the daily mirror performance. the daily mirror nhs dental crisis so desperate i went to ukraine to get my teeth . the man with severe went to war torn ukraine just to sort out his gnashers and the daily star the great stink part two half baked baguettes blamed

causing global coffee crisis. pardon us. but the world is in the midst of a global pall endemic that can be blamed squarely on part baked baguettes sacre bleu. it's official excess farting is not our fault . and farting is not our fault. and those are your front pages reacting to them . have my top reacting to them. have my top punst reacting to them. have my top pundits tonight . journalist and pundits tonight. journalist and broadcaster stephanie tetchy political commentator and former of labour list peter edwards and the deputy editor of conservative home henry hill . conservative home henry hill. stephanie, let's start with the king's visit to france cancelled and a lost opportunity. definitely so but you know some when these situations happen realise how much power the people how much power the french people how much power the french people have and they're not going take it lying down with the search of changes. obviously the search of changes. obviously the british people were much more courteous, much more have that stuff . lip so we're not that stuff. lip so we're not going to react as much, but i

think it would have been a bit of a deadly venture for king charles to go to france at such as such a time like this. yes. i mean, we're always hearing what a disaster britain is, undemocratic hellhole. look at the mess in france at the moment. peter francis's mess. i'm amazed too having taken part since strikes myself, including over time pensions. since strikes myself, including over time pensions . and they're over time pensions. and they're striking over working the ripe old age of 64. you know , we can old age of 64. you know, we can only dream of that. but, you know, france is a foreign country and i think 67 in the uk, i believe so but there's a trajectory on and of course you know all being well we'll live to our 80 or 90. the express have taken quite a fervent pass if you can flush out because they say the tour was axed on safety grounds because of the king. i think this is really about public relations. the whole coverage has this very 1789 revolutionary. marie antoinette a flavour about it is quite funny to raise neither a new king nor any politician to be tied to the meat cake type of

mentality . i be tied to the meat cake type of mentality. i do be tied to the meat cake type of mentality . i do think it be tied to the meat cake type of mentality. i do think it was a threat to charles. i think everyone realised having the president and the king having a very expensive dinner in a very expensive place, what is a riot outside is ? not a good look. outside is? not a good look. probably not a great look. i think you're it would have been a pr disaster, is unrest a pr disaster, henry. is unrest western europe a concern for all us? i think it's sign in france specifically is a very special case. so i think we have to say this, europe, you know, if you think about germany and spain, this french this is a very french phenomenon, a sign of phenomenon, but it's a sign of how roots of of the how deep roots of some of the problems in france, because as you know, you're right, they fundamentally striking over what would like very, very would to us look like very, very milquetoast economic policies and in many other areas of life. the french unions and so the french trade unions and so on managed to deliver on have managed to deliver an excellent over excellent deal over many decades, now at the decades, but we're now at the point france can't really point where france can't really afford struggling afford it, are struggling to change it, and if you're talking about britain being undemocratic, french undemocratic, it's the french system the president system that allows the president to decree, is how to rule by decree, which is how emmanuel macron got these reforms through the first place. he tried to put it through

parliament, think parliament said didn't the said no, he didn't have the numbers precisely. numbers where precisely. and then used then he and then he used presidential power, which he does does have does have and he does have electoral to put it electoral mandate to put it through. one of the through. i think one of the things important to bear things that's important to bear in mind with in the uk, when you think about fact don't think about the fact we don't riot the also it does of riot the also it does a lot of unpopular stuff but it doesn't really on public opinion really take on public opinion in this quite the same way this way in quite the same way as often no indeed migrants as often no indeed so migrants could be from hotels to could be moved from hotels to ferries. according to the ferries. this according to the daily sunak, is daily telegraph rishi sunak, is expected early as expected declare as early as next the beginning next week the beginning of the end hotels, which are end of asylum hotels, which are being to house than being used to house more than thousand cost of thousand migrants at a cost of nearly million pounds a day migrants will initially be moved decent but rudimentary accommodate asian in former military bases, but there plans to consider disused ferries as well. will that wash , you think? well. will that wash, you think? will that work? henry hill as an interim, as an interim measure, maybe it be less politically toxic than hotels, which i think what the government is thinking about. but one of the big

problems our asylum system problems with our asylum system is that have of these is that we have all of these people who are in here who are in the for years while. we in the uk for years while. we process them and we have failed to a dedicated asylum to build a dedicated asylum estate keep decent estate to keep them in decent conditions. and the reason for that that that is because no mp wants that in their constituency every local where try local council where you try and build will kick but build it will kick off. but unless we the bullet and we unless we bite the bullet and we build for people to build places for these people to live we're processing live while we're processing them. office going them. the home office is going continue having to flail around, finding ships, finding finding obsolete ships, finding hotel places. got hotel bedroom places. you've got your of your finger on the pulse of pubuc your finger on the pulse of public opinion . do you think public opinion. do you think that rishi sunak messaging on stopping the boats is starting cut through now? it is to an extent, but the big danger for the conservatives on issues like this that they've for years, especially on home office stories , if they really stories, if they talk really loudly it and then they loudly about it and then they don't done and, don't get anything done and, that's actually really counterproductive because they're they're they're doing is they're highlighting the issue. they're reminding this reminding the voters that this is but they is a problem. but then if they don't actually married to a successful solution and they have consistently failed to do that years, that for several years, that will them. the key thing will hurt them. so the key thing now that actually carries

now is that he actually carries through promises , if he through on this promises, if he can, really good. can, that will be really good. but doesn't, it will be in but if he doesn't, it will be in of this come back to bite of this will come back to bite and peter edwards you've got to say tories owning the stop say the tories owning the stop the boats at the the boats narrative at the moment here? the moment aren't they here? the latest the telegraph latest story in the telegraph that migrants could be moved from hotels ferries, a policy from hotels to ferries, a policy that play well that will probably play well in those that labour those red wall seats that labour needs take. i'm not sure it needs to take. i'm not sure it will at all because i think it's complete madness and it's like something out of monty python or alan partridge . the idea, the alan partridge. the idea, the answer to . government and home answer to. government and home office failures in processing is to stick people on a boat and send them round the uk , round send them round the uk, round and round and round again. it's either ludicrous, absurd or inhumane and tragic. but i. but i don't think is the answer. disused other facilities disused facilities, old schools , as facilities, old schools, as henry alluded to it, is a real about not having a permanent base or processing centre for people in very difficult but

also quite varied circumstances and of course constituency does come into play. i think i'd make a broader point, which is what worries me, i thought we got beyond the point of government by tough announcement, then ridicule and then u—turn. we seem to slip back into again. oh the such as we get to that and this is off the front page they're not suggesting sailing they're not suggesting sailing the around. think the ferries around. i think the ferries to anchored ferries are going to be anchored somewhere. they don't want to be seen what it means. but fundamentally, a ferry is, a series of purpose built accommodation, you can simply anchor it somewhere and put people not people in it. that's not inherently sailing. inherently ridiculous sailing. it around the uk would absurd it around the uk would be absurd using facility which using those facility which are perfectly people perfectly serviceable for people using and ships , using using ferries and ships, using that some way to put people that as some way to put people to not absurd . it's to live is not absurd. it's a bit inhumane. they know why these are are these are places. these are places with bedrooms and plumbing and galleys and feeding and all the food and all the other stuff. the fact the other stuff. the mere fact that it's a on water not that it's on a on water is not inherently inhumane. these are not this is not prison camps. this is to accommodate that have accommodate people that have entered the country illegally. i

know it's like enough. know but it's just like enough. it's but still feel it's cheaper. but i still feel like we're tackling the problem . migrants, we're just taking them from one boat onto a ship , them from one boat onto a ship, just dumping . is it messaging? just dumping. is it messaging? is it like there when the plan stephanie that it's messaging to the people traffickers and their business model that they cannot on facebook and take talk about this wonderful new life you've or you'll have because actually what will happen is you'll go onto a ferry or you'll be shipped out to rwanda. i think there'll be aware of that but i think as well know where there's a will. there's a way and they're to keep on they're just going to keep on changing their model because i think you know, the moment i saw my this problem is bigger my site this problem is bigger than any government than any and any government that's to and inherit this that's going to and inherit this poisoned chalice. i think there's think about at the moment, there's120 million moment, there's 120 million migrants on the move at the moment. yeah how do we tackle the more . oh indeed. i mean the more. oh indeed. i mean peter i'm just looking professor matthew a academic matthew goodwin who's a academic at the university of kent he's been tweeting the latest polling

in regards to stop the boats and the public's of it. if you the public's view of it. if you don't think stopping the boats is you are at the 16% the vast majority of the public think it's very important and it's an issue that needs sorting and could decide the next election. i it is important and i think it will be a feature in the debate around the next general election. but at the risk of ultra specific rishi sunak pledge was not to solve the small boats crisis was purely to pass a law that might solve this all boats crisis. and i really think people on a disused ferry is madness and to end i think two words that we often hear followed by suella braverman announcement are judicial review. okay what's your to this developing story tomorrow's telegraph that migrants could be moved from hotels to ferries. your reaction please market dot uk. i'll get your views just after the break we've also got the independent an amazing

headune the independent an amazing headline in the indy that's also why drinking to be banned from some parts of the uk what's going on. see you .

in two more emails coming in response to this developing story , to this developing story, today's daily telegraph migrants could be moved from hotels , could be moved from hotels, ferries, richard says mark. workers live on oil rigs for months. that's not inhumane. i think this is a very good and sensible idea mark says camille is . putting sensible idea mark says camille is. putting illegal immigrants on a ferry or disused army barracks or school acts as a deterrent then yes, it would be a good move . why anything wrong a good move. why anything wrong with housing illegal migrants in ferries or cruise ships? says gee matheson . why is there an

gee matheson. why is there an outcry ? sturgeon housing outcry? sturgeon housing ukrainian families cruise liners in edinburgh ? or does that not in edinburgh? or does that not count ? there you go. look pam, count? there you go. look pam, finally on this one, pam says perhaps the migrants on ferries or cruise ships could work whilst being processed . there whilst being processed. there you go. and now we've got to have more front pages. this is the independent and they lead with firing fury as violent french revolt cancelled kings state visit charles iii do you know the guillotine was daubed in sinister graffiti parliament in sinister graffiti parliament in paris there you go france meltdown can i just say and put it on record on the radio and on tv that if was happening in britain the world's press would be talking about what a disaster britain has become. but as it's france it's a different story funny that isn't it now reacting to tomorrow's front pages we have journalists in broadcast stephanie takyi political commentator and former editor of labour list peter edwards and

the deputy editor of concern active home henry hill . let's go active home henry hill. let's go to tomorrow's sun now. and drinking at bus stops or war memorial is to be banned and yobs to be forced to scrub up high streets. more on the spot . high streets. more on the spot. fines will be issued and drug tests out in a drive to see offences rapidly , publicly offences rapidly, publicly punished . the blitz to be punished. the blitz to be launched on monday will see graffiti menaces marched to the scene of that crime in highways jackets and made to clear up the mess within 24 hours of getting caught. stephanie tetchy your reaction. i'm actually for this actually because sometimes you know it's you me to make sure people are paying for their crimes and i think by actually people know that actually no we've actually toughened our laws and this is what you can expect if you this crime it might actually deter young people from doing such crimes . people from doing such crimes. yeah, indeed. i mean, what do we think, though, about setting the precedent alcohol precedent of banning alcohol consumption places? consumption in certain places? i worry about that, that it

worry about that, peter, that it could slippery slope. could be the slippery slope. there is a precedent already is, of course, people living in the capital you're not allowed to capital or you're not allowed to dnnk open capital or you're not allowed to drink open can drink or carry an open can anywhere on the transport for london network . i think that was london network. i think that was introduced johnson . introduced by boris johnson. it's caught on in it's not really caught on in other the country, as far other parts the country, as far as i on this story. i think as i know on this story. i think it you know, it's incredibly it is. you know, it's incredibly and to get drunk on a war memorial , and to get drunk on a war memorial, but again, it's a bit of an announcement about it. you know, yobs , unquote, can already know, yobs, unquote, can already be made to up the high street and the community service been around for my entire lifetime. okay. what do think about okay. what do we think about this? the war on anti—social behaviour? henry well, it is really important what really important to tackle what sometimes low level sometimes called low level crime, that's often crime, because that's often the thing impacts day thing that impacts people day to day in their communities and this kind thing affect lots this kind of thing affect lots of so that's fine i am of bit. so that's fine i am worried the ban because it worried about the ban because it hasn't caught remember hasn't caught on. i remember actually party that actually the big party that people the line people had on the circle line the boris johnson's booze the day boris johnson's booze ban they went ban came in, when they went round round getting drunk. round and round getting drunk. but in america, for example, there is a general trend that i think at big cities you

think in at least big cities you can't seen intoxicated can't be seen intoxicated or with open container on the with an open container on the street, creeping street, and it's a creeping pervading the and it pervading of the state. and it represents instead of cracking down who are actually down on people who are actually committing it's committing the offences, it's cracking down on everybody. i think most people can walk think most people can, can walk home or you know you have home drunk or you know you have a dnnk home drunk or you know you have a drink on, street a have a drink on, on the street or walking between houses or the pub they're fine . i don't pub and they're fine. i don't want to see all those people want to see all of those people potentially for the sake of cracking down people who cracking down on people who abuse freedom to commit abuse that freedom to commit disorder, you survive disorder, could you survive without . wetherspoon's the without. wetherspoon's the famous and iconic pub chain has warned that it may have to hike its prices as its sales are not as good as it had hoped. many of pub favourites will have a hike in price as well with the ultimate burger personal favourite of mine. their little deal with a drink as well is going from under a tenner to almost £11 and the chicken tikka masala be going the same way. say whatever happened to a cheap night out? could you survive without wetherspoons? peter well, i spent a lot of my sixth

form in wetherspoons in essex, i've not been in as much in, in recent years, but the price increases that's a lot percentagewise is not much in pounds. i looked up quickly the average price for a pint in london is £5.99. crazy six quid folks wetherspoons is still relatively value a bit along with onions. it's not everyone's taste, but i hope it carries on going. but when wetherspoon isn't cheap, you know you're in trouble. stephanie yeah, well, you know, tough times. you know, it's tough times. businesses have to their businesses do have to up their prices. businesses do have to up their pnces. you businesses do have to up their prices. you know what? even prices. and you know what? even though i would foot though i would not step foot a wetherspoons, it does serve it this night because it reminds me . take you out and . love to take you out and i invite you with mrs. invite you to it with mrs. doughnuts permission can invite invite you to it with mrs. dou to 1uts permission can invite invite you to it with mrs. dou to go; permission can invite invite you to it with mrs. dou to go out?nission can invite invite you to it with mrs. dou to go out? maybe can invite invite you to it with mrs. dou to go out? maybe we'llnvite invite you to it with mrs. dou to go out? maybe we'll take you to go out? maybe we'll take henry. peter, it's got a nice prosecco. then they call everything a wetherspoons just reminds me. when i was 18 to 25. and it does serve its purpose in that sense. and it is a british establishment i wouldn't want to see the high street, but see go off the high street, but it is times for and the it is tough times for and the everyone need to pop up a everyone does need to pop up a few more. all bar no more that i

female course you are never even heard of it henry what about the spoons? iconic british brands? we can't be can't be doing without it. no town is complete without it. no town is complete without a wetherspoons, is it? no i don't think. what are the things that wetherspoons actually does? really well is as actually does? really well is as a of a their architecture is a bit of a their architecture is that up old on high that they buy up old on high street like theatres and banks that otherwise empty that might otherwise be empty or knock then restore knock down and then restore them. really them. and that's a really important old cinemas, banks, you name precisely. so that's you name it precisely. so that's actually important actually really important function that wetherspoons performs. i think for the great the on the seal was broken on on sacrosanct price increases. the tesco deal longer tesco meal deal was no longer £3. i once that bastion £3. i think once that bastion had fallen. it was fair game but but it does represent the pressure on businesses and also the will bite the way that this will bite people can least afford it people who can least afford it because you there are because you know there are people chain who will be people up the chain who will be much small much less impacted by small price cash . but, you price rises in cash. but, you know, this, whether know, forget this, whether wetherspoons really wetherspoons that will really bite some. stephanie, the clock's against us. i'm going to this once exclusively tragic this once you exclusively tragic story teacher who story of the head teacher who took life after took her own life after receiving a terrible downgrade in from outstanding

in the ofsted from outstanding to a common what actual definition was but inadequate i think yeah very very tough but that the school hadn't been tested in many years. my heart goes to her family, but schools have been in sympathy and saying won't let ofsted in. and i think this is a worrying development. what do you think? i feel like ofsted needs to be modernised because i remember i was in school and we were told ofsted were coming to inspect the schools school on schools every school gets on their behaviour . it's not their best behaviour. it's not a real snapshot of what actually goes on in the education system. i feel like you need to be schools than a day just schools more than a day just springing up here with families. want to know if the school down the is crap? well i think the road is crap? well i think it needs to be a better communication between. the school established and the parents. i just feel like ofsted has its way but fair. parents. i just feel like ofsted has its way but fair . okay, has lost its way but fair. okay, well, look, grey walls. grey grey corner sofa , grey. crushed grey corner sofa, grey. crushed velvet headboard grey fences surrounding gardens perch of life in favour grey paving slabs

and pebble grey rattan, outdoor furniture and a fire pit pie . furniture and a fire pit pie. bull put my teeth back in so flammable so instagram look, the world has gone grey we've become obsessed with a grey colouring inside our interiors . is it time inside our interiors. is it time we injected some colour back into our lives? should we bring back wallpaper to brighten up britain's living rooms? what do you think ? what colour is your you think? what colour is your living room? my living room was pretty bland, but tea towels are varied. yourselves down to varied. get yourselves down to an average water a tea time an average water of a tea time and if factors are available that emma bridgewater that you know. emma bridgewater is hours bit of colour you is 8 hours a bit of colour you know there's a sense of jackson pollock about up your pollock about brighten up your eyes architecture eyes if you're into architecture this obsession got this grey interior obsession got to go hasn't it. i think it it's certainly depressing , although certainly depressing, although my taste runs slightly more to the minimal but they don't run to victorian think to the victorian but i think it's also fact that we're constantly design our it's also fact that we're cons'antly design our it's also fact that we're cons'an eye design our it's also fact that we're cons'an eye on design our it's also fact that we're cons'an eye on salezsign our it's also fact that we're cons'an eye on salezsign you know with an eye on sale now you know blank walls, minimalist blank white walls, minimalist furniture what every furniture that's what every estate do. estate agent will tell you do. so you invest in all of this so if you invest in all of this beautiful colour that the

victorians used to have. yeah it's knock some value it's going to knock some value off house well we've off your house price. well we've had plenty of colour had plenty, plenty of colour from tonight. my thanks from my panel tonight. my thanks to stephanie henry and to you, stephanie henry and peter is next. peter headline as is next. and we're tomorrow nine. see we're back tomorrow at nine. see you then. good evening and welcome. your latest weather update met office. with update from the met office. with me, shuttleworth . through me, annie shuttleworth. through saturday stay showery saturday it will stay showery with sunshine around . then with some sunshine around. then into sunday we see a bit of a shift as our winds turn to more of a northerly. but for now through friday, through the rest of friday, we've still this area of low we've still got this area of low that's going bringing that's going to be bringing a rather unsafe settled evening and westerly breeze. still and a westerly breeze. so still quite blustery all the way through friday night. so some quite heavy showers will affect parts of northern ireland. southern scotland northern southern scotland and northern england and further south, just about anywhere are likely see about anywhere are likely to see some showers across parts of scotland. we could see of the showers falling as snow over the high for all of us high ground. but for all of us will a breezy night tonight . will be a breezy night tonight. and because of that, temperatures hold so temperatures will hold up. so relatively mild start to the weekend, but quite cloudy across the country and a few showers

still lasting into the morning. they'll stay breezy , start at they'll stay breezy, start at the start. but as we into the afternoon, the winds will start to lighten and the sunshine across parts of wales and central of england will start to feel quite for here we'll see highs around 14 or 15 degrees however to the north of that it'll start to feel a little chillier then through the end of saturday saturday evening we'll see many areas seeing a lot of dry weather continuing . however dry weather continuing. however nofice dry weather continuing. however notice across the south this band of quite persistent rain will move up northward , bringing will move up northward, bringing some persistent rain overnight into sunday morning across many areas of wales and, england to the north of that cold air is starting to show its face and because of that we could see a bit of a frost across parts of scotland, perhaps northern england, to start on sunday and cold will become more widespread yet as we head through the rest of day. sunshine will also become more widespread so some decent sunny spells by the afternoon and a much drier day

but still feeling colder. they'll stay on monday, but actually there'll be quite a lot more sunshine around. i'll see you later .