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strike laws. the minimum with the government's anti strike laws . the minimum service strike laws. the minimum service level bill would give ministers the power to force union members in sectors to work on strike or face losing their . if you face losing their. if you general secretary matt wrack says the bill is one of the most draconian on the rights of working people in decades, he's urging the trades union congress to an emergency meeting to launch joint strategy to resist the legislation, placing force workers cross picket lines which are being manned by their colleagues. i. i think it is completely unprincipled and unethical and dame. i just don't think it would work. the idea that workers are going to be strong armed into breaking a strike that they've voted i think is just fanciful . so in think is just fanciful. so in the end, i think this bill it certainly is a backward bill. it's going to inflame the situation. my view, make the strikes even worse . in the last strikes even worse. in the last few minutes, bus drivers in the west midlands have ended indefinite strike action , indefinite strike action, accepting a pay offer . members

accepting a pay offer. members of unite employed by the bus division of national express press, began their walkout on monday . the offer, accepted by monday. the offer, accepted by more than 3100 drivers, includes . a one year 16.2% pay increase. improvements their accident pay and hourly rates for working over the christmas . the over the christmas. the statistics watchdog the prime minister used incorrect figures when discussing home office action on tackling the asylum claims backlog. the chairman the uk statistics authority , robert uk statistics authority, robert choat, has to the government to point out that figures used by ministers, including rishi sunak, do not reflect official statistics. also said it's wrong to claim that have halved the number waiting for their asylum application to be processed. he says the backlog has increased by 150,000 since they took office . two teenage boys have office. two teenage boys have been charged with murder of a 16

year old who was stabbed to death in northampton. rowan known as fred, died following the attack on wednesday afternoon . the 14 and 16 year afternoon. the 14 and 16 year old boys who can't be named for reasons, will appear before northampton magistrates court later . in south—east london later. in south—east london cars, residents and tractors , cars, residents and tractors, the roads to protest the expansion of the ultra low emission zone. the mayor of london city council proposal expand the congestion zone to the whole of the city. transport for london claims nine out of ten cars driving in outer london meet the ulez standards will not be liable for the charge . but be liable for the charge. but the rac says 700,000 drivers in the rac says 700,000 drivers in the capital would face a . daily the capital would face a. daily £12.50 fee . europe you're £12.50 fee. europe you're watching gb news. now it's back to nana .

to nana. good afternoon . it's fast good afternoon. it's fast approaching 7 minutes after 3:00. this is gb news on tv onune 3:00. this is gb news on tv online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua and it's time to mock the week and what a week it's been. the week and what a week it's been . we started off with the been. we started off with the kangaroo court for boris distancing hands space which is the space part . he's either two the space part. he's either two metres at this time or it's one metres at this time or it's one metre with mitigation to the rebels. it two metres, three metres where possible, two metres where possible, two metres or one metre with mitigations which is screen . mitigations which is screen. what is the notion of a less perfect, an imperfect social distancing? but as you were the country to do social distance. yes but but so did we in number was accused of law breaking and

i had to give undertakings to the house of commons of all places that i have broken the law. i would want the advice of a lawyer. i would the advice of somebody really independent and capable . and you didn't ask the capable. and you didn't ask the cabinet can interrupt you for 10 seconds. i wasn't accused of law breaking. i was asked to say what had gone on at party or an event. what had gone on at party or an event . i'm nearly done . can i event. i'm nearly done. can i just interject the met here? will you accept ? this committee will you accept? this committee can be fair and rather than being unfair and a witch hunt. oh oh. harriet harman and has six henchmen. i don't know why they bothered already moved the goalposts. you can. they can find him guilty. they know they can't he knowingly can't prove that he knowingly misled. prove that misled. how can you prove that someone? something someone? knows something unless you into their head. you can get into their head. instead, they've changed it to reckless misleading. up instead, they've changed it to re

stitch up and add insult to injury. we must endure this limbo move on limbo until june move on seriously if people spend the same time they spent on kangaroo baloney on rebuilding this country after the farce that was covered we might well climb out of this mess instead a bunch of bitter politicians from all sides jealous of a proven winner of wasting time and our money on this clown laughable if it weren't so harriet it back for god's sake, you're a joke and on heart that i did not lie to the house we got barristers signing a declaration of conscience and refusing to prosecute eco warriors. seems bizarre, seeing as that same would willingly defend people who've committed crimes that the meeting with chinese president zi zhongping and russian president vladimir putin even like crouton , they putin even like crouton, they met face to face in moscow . xie met face to face in moscow. xie offered china's assistance mediating between russia and ukraine. i think she actually owes he him her. they then help

find a solution to the war. just stop dropping the bombs putin it'll all be over . the meeting it'll all be over. the meeting ended with she or saying change that has not been seen in 100 years is coming. he went to on we are driving that change together. great time to ditch my smartphone and get rid of tick tock and the albanian prime minister a go at solar for claiming that the were not actually coming from. no there's actually coming from. no there's a lot of confusion and there is also a lot of speculation about the data . it's not simply not the data. it's not simply not true. but all these people come from albania . this is from albania. this is theoretically impossible arithmetically impossible. and factually not true. we albanians that come also from other countries mainly greece . i was

countries mainly greece. i was going say, oh, i see. there are albanians that are coming from greece. that's not split as well . these people giving up any in the first place. right. let's take a look at what's coming up in this hour. i'll be joined by comedian jim davidson from mock the week. and we'll be discussing the top stories, including of the including the part of the inquiry putin meeting jinping inquiry putin meeting xi jinping and albania's prime minister. uk visit to the uk ireland for the great british debate hour. i'm asking, do you believe that there a climate crisis early there is a climate crisis early this world's top this week the world's top scientists delivering final warning climate crisis . warning on the climate crisis. according to the intergovernmental panel on climate change , we have to act climate change, we have to act now before too late. so are we in trouble or is it just scaremongering? and at 345, it's the political spotlight. probably joined by conservative mp tomlinson to discuss his life in politics, serving in boris johnson's government during the covid pandemic and answering questions on johnson's following the court inquiry. the kangaroo court inquiry. that's on the way in the next.

tell me what you think on everything we're discussing. vaiews@gbnews.uk tweet me at . vaiews@gbnews.uk tweet me at. gb news. right, let's welcome to my special guest, comedian and tv personality jim davidson. jim madam marama, thank you so much for coming on. thank you. good, good. yeah. yeah. do you know climate change? i worked out something he said here on earth. if the earth's crust rises by one degree, it could be end of civilisation as we know it. and i said to a woman in the front row the other night along, you cook a chicken for one and a half hours, she said, temperature. 180. i said. cook. 1a1 and see if it makes any difference at all. it's ridiculous freezing out there. i'm a bit of climate change. yeah. you know what i would say us a lot of money on the gas and less c02 wouldn't it? would, yeah. did you get a chance to a

glimpse of that three four hour partygate shenanigans? yeah, i did. i did what? caught my eye is that , boris. it doesn't look is that, boris. it doesn't look as scruffy or fat or quite as daft as he normally tries to put it on someone's head , treat it it on someone's head, treat it seriously, and i'll tell you, i'll bet it was the guy sitting behind him over his right shoulder . lord behind him over his right shoulder. lord pannick. it's a great for a barrister, isn't it, lord? panic so he's there helping because he arrest anyone from glueing themselves the road. barristers have to do , road. barristers have to do, don't they? and i if you're the boss, you're the boss. you see the way i look at it, the way i tell people goes, i'm slightly mad. does the boss have to do that? does the boss have to be an iron and stay till five as well when the boss says we've have lockdown, he can still go fishing, go down the pub , fishing, go down the pub, whatever. i would be the cake. i it's daft. i don't think he misled parliament at all and if they that he did what's the chances of him telling the truth to them. it's an absolute waste and what that jenkins doing that

bernard jenkins issue put against the wall and bashed up . against the wall and bashed up. well he should he come out we wouldn't recommend obviously no deterrent doesn't mean he's comedian he's of course i didn't mean that no are you going mean that no what are you going to a wall? no, know he's to find a wall? no, i know he's an old mate of mine. i can't believe he's got the knives out. so what? he's never going to become prime minister. they all nip. harriet what is nip. harriet harman, what is doing? it's like a piano teacher, didn't she? it was awful. well you and awful. well you know, and i watched and i was so embarrassed because me the half hour because sent me to the half hour or metre i'll oh, or a metre and i'll say, oh, come they thank you. thank come on, they thank you. thank you. i'm terribly sorry. let's move got a country to move on. we got a country to run. they need to get on with it now. these barristers now. what about these barristers that of looking at that knew are sort of looking at things and saying, oh, well, we're not going to do that and we're not going to do that and we're to protect eco we're going to protect the eco warriors. not going to warriors. we're not going to prosecute think guardian prosecute them. i think guardian rate they a lot of rate is, aren't they a lot of barristers first of all, go barristers first of all, they go on strike then they read the on strike and then they read the guardian all forgiven. guardian and we're all forgiven. and what can we and then they say, what can we do nice? we want to lock up do this nice? we want to lock up any those in sandals

any of those people in sandals that statues in the river that throw statues in the river and themselves the m20 and glue themselves to the m20 five got held up five ridiculous. i got held up in a traffic jam and there was a film crew. i didn't realise and i was shouting at them. there were these protesters and and were these protesters and i and someone said, why you so someone said, why are you so miserable? should be. miserable? you should be. i said, get demands said, i'm trying to get demands as up my lunch. do as a mash up to get my lunch. do mind that was it. how is he? well heat it up. i'll say that my powers getting like. i know i. just don't get why these i. i just don't get why these people are so, like, a protected species . seems a bit of species. seems a bit of a nonsense then, then later on, i mean, we heard about xi jinping. i that writes he's on peng one peng x one paying in. yeah it like golf club danny but they've met haven't they putin and they've met together it's they've met together and it's sort little bit use sort of a little bit use of slightly scared of the way this is going no no that's why we've got a really really good nuclear deterrent . now the other day deterrent. now the other day i think the russian ambassador was saying send uranium tank saying if we send uranium tank shells to ukraine, if we send depleted uranium, they're going send proper uranium, know that

not because it's serious. i like blue touch paper. you know their country will be turned a glass top coffee table . that's the top coffee table. that's the whole idea of having a deterrent . the good question is how long can we keep supplying ukraine with ? how long before our stocks with? how long before our stocks run out as well? and i think that's what's going to happen. and as for one ping, i mean, when they me, what do they think is disease on ping jesus jesus judging by the listing but you might be on your smartphone. oh tick . yeah, this is squirrel and tick. yeah, this is squirrel and you think that vladimir putin looks like an offspring of spike milligan? he on steroids? you know, he reminds me of a was it was it gorbachev at that's a little bit marking. is that gorbachev, the russian president loved his country so much he had a map of it tattooed on his head . but these two, when they meet, they always look like their mum's got them ready, don't they ? whole l'eau you put

? got the whole l'eau you put that nice warm coat on when you go. how does that even mariupol. no that's not is that. hey he's using doppelgangers . we've got a using doppelgangers. we've got a shot of putin in mariupol which i thought was disgusting. the fact that he was back on somebody, going back the scene of crime. don't you know, of the crime. i don't you know, it's a people do, don't they? they go back and have a look at the damage they've caused. the damage that they've caused. well on well let's hope well shame on well let's hope someone but mr. xi jinping he's he's got some idea of how it's all going end nicely so good luck mr. pink president ping yeah . putin and ping. i mean yeah. putin and ping. i mean frankly it sounds like a suspicion of it. it sounds like going to get in trouble. we're never be a go. china or never going to be a go. china or russia. no great loss, actually. have you ever beat. i've been to russia. been twice it russia. i've been twice what it was. soviet no, was. the soviet union. no, i don't think have i've been to china. yeah, i went to i went to entertain the troops in hong and i across the to i nipped across the border to have little. not very have a little. they're not very good. about happen. and good. what about happen. and finally speaking of nipping across albie mian across borders the albie mian prime minister saying that they're not from albania, that come greece. well,

come from greece. well, albanians coming from greece all albanians. a good albanians. i've met a good bloke, but they haven't come across dinghies, i think. across dinghies, i don't think. and when we went in to liberate kosovo during that battle. i was there. i to macedonia to sign there. ito macedonia to sign there. ito macedonia to sign the troops and they said, well, we're going kosovo, but you might as go home now because we're not going in for a while. flew home, got a phone call, get on the plane, flew back and i went kosovo with them and was to free up the albanian people that were there during that yugoslavian balkans . and yugoslavian of the balkans. and they all thoroughly good they were all thoroughly good chap. so i don't know what he's about. albanians not from about. albanians are not from albania where they can't be albania, where they can't be from lewisham. well is in from lewisham. well saying is in greece it's like. yeah, but greece and it's like. yeah, but there's there's still there's still, there's still albanians you albanians now they can, you know. yes. okay, if russia know. yes. okay, what if russia attacked from the rear? attacked albania from the rear? would help and i, i doubt would greece help and i, i doubt it. so it's the rude joke. look i know i sort of have to think about that. yeah, it's i didn't actually for that one apologises

offended although that's you have to sort of say quite to work out the punchline yes. so do you still use training that going you stream's doing we're now not a on the computer you don't have to watch on the computer you get as on the television now just go and select an app you stream bang and off we go. it's quite good fun. a television mogul you and you stream i'm only mogul yeah but spell a stream when i say but it spell a stream when i say siri go use dream calling a stream and i keep at siri and it says there's no need for that . says there's no need for that. jim davidson thank , you so much jim davidson thank, you so much for joining me. lovely to be on forjoining me. lovely to be on your show you big fan that is doing david he was mucking the week with and it's been a bit week with me and it's been a bit of a mucky you're with me of a mucky week you're with me on this is good he's on tv onune on this is good he's on tv online and digital radio after the break and time for our the break and it's time for our great debate this hour. great british debate this hour. and asking, do believe and i'm asking, do you believe that a climate? earlier that there is a climate? earlier this week gave their final warning on the climate, declaring that we to act now before it's too late. then later

, conservative mp justin tomlinson will be joining me to discuss his life and politics working under boris johnson dunng working under boris johnson during covid and of course, johnson's future following the partygate kangaroo court . some partygate kangaroo court. some of thoughts. email of your thoughts. email gbviews@gbnews.uk or tweet me at gbviews@gbnews.uk or tweet me at gb views and. i'm asking, do you believe that there a climate crisis that's more on the way .

it's just coming up to 24 minutes after 3:00. this is a good use on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm a. now, before the break, i discussing this week's top stories. have a look at what you've been saying is this this is oh dawn says the eu has been syphoning out their own illegal illegal immigrants to us in the uk. albanian president confirms that illegal albanian immigrants not coming from albania in other words living elsewhere in other eu

countries . yeah tim says boris countries. yeah tim says boris johnson lied. he said he was repeatedly assured that he hasn't broken lockdown laws , but hasn't broken lockdown laws, but admitted that they couldn't name those people who'd supported him . oh, come on. look, i bet you can't name what you probably what you are. tweet last week i couldn't name news around me. mp that's pretty tricky. mike says. i absolutely love your i just absolutely love your banter. you talk and banter. great. so you talk and i love jim's political . yeah, it's love jim's political. yeah, it's great love. leave it of that. thank you so keep your thoughts coming. but now it's time for the great british debate this houn the great british debate this hour. and i'm asking, do you believe is climate believe that there is climate crisis scientist delivered crisis now? scientist delivered their final warning again on the climate this week. and to according world's top climate scientists in intergovernmental panel on climate change, if we don't act , it'll be too late . don't act, it'll be too late. now, on monday, the ipcc released the final part of its 60 assessment report, which took eight years to complete. now the report that carbon emissions need to be cut by almost half by 2030. if global is to be limited

to 1.5 degrees celsius. now 2030. if global is to be limited to 1.5 degrees celsius . now the to 1.5 degrees celsius. now the un secretary—general antonio guterres said the synthesis report is a survival guide for humanity. yet and gas giant shell has warned that the ipcc net zero target may not be hit until 100. should we now? and is it worth it? so for the great british debates, i'm asking, do you believe that there is actually a climate crisis? joining me in the studio to meteorologist jim dale was the director of 26. lois perry . all director of 26. lois perry. all right, jim, talk to me. climate is happening. what do we do? it's been happening some time since the earth began. since. well, of . of course it is. but well, of. of course it is. but it's accelerated over the last ten years. since industrial revolution. and every single graph that i look at in terms of temperature, profile, profile, it's exaggerated itself , an it's exaggerated itself, an immense proportion in the last 30 years, particularly , we've 30 years, particularly, we've been keeping records on, well,

metallurgical being kept for about for about give or take, about for about give or take, about 100 years, maybe a little bit more than the last hundred years. but this is the only time we've been keeping the record. no records 200 years. yeah no records for 200 years. yeah look, we can we can look at all the other we can look at tree fings. the other we can look at tree rings . they're not complete, of rings. they're not complete, of course. and you don't to. course. and you don't need to. the period from the late 1800s all the way to now the sharp. the sharp increase in terms of c02 and then temperature is not is indisputable. this why those 700 scientists wasn't there an era when c02 was a lot higher than before? we even on the earth? i'm just out of interest. i it was a different a different a different thing that a different mechanism gondwana land it joined on the land it was joined on the landmasses which had wobbles at time. is the this is what time. this is the this is what we're talking about now is that. yes, was of there yes, there was of course there was we're talking about was and but we're talking about an ecosystem that know an ecosystem that we know existing. the earth as existing. we talk the earth as being one ecosystem. now you're jim talking jim davison talking about the movement, you know, let's

movement, you know, well, let's have degree or have another another degree or two. think this. the two. well think about this. the ecosystem that we live in, we live in it and around it and you nudge that a little bit and it to have these these kind of effects so yourself for example we all live a 37 degrees celsius that's body temperature a little bit more than that. put yourself a degree more where we are at this moment in time with 1.1 degrees more than we were 30 years. regulate by years. but it will regulate by sweating, which is the point. so if you go 1.1, you sign to feel ill without a shadow of a doubt, your temperature has gone up, etc. then increase it by another degree, which is the direction of travel that we're going to two degrees. you're going to be in bed maybe, maybe your body will do feedback effects . so we will do feedback effects. so we calculated levels . yeah, calculated levels. yeah, obviously i completely disagree with everything you said disagree as per jim and i wanted disagree as perjim and i wanted to draw your attention to the university of huntsville , university of huntsville, alabama satellite based temperatures 30 years which actually show that what you're

saying is completely untrue. and the university of huntsville actually reports satellite data. so that's the entire world, not some temperature gauges , some temperature gauges, airports in hot places, which where most of the stuff comes from that you talk and they report to the us senate and the department for energy for a guy called john christy . and, you called john christy. and, you know, we've had in 98 and in 2016, it was we are actually half a degree colder now than then because the amino it so actually actually the data does not support what you're saying also the same university that the data for this at state department and nsa has shown that there's no correlation over the last 30 years whatsoever we've emissions and temperature yeah i've got the graphs i can name and show you this is based on satellite remember this ipcc report this is this is this is 70 to size . ipcc is not this report this is this is this is 70 to size. ipcc is not this is 1991. countries have got scientists that study eight years. this is not do they all

go to cop27 whether they did or whether they did so what we're looking at is from the carbon tax on their private jets as yachts. so what do you think ? i yachts. so what do you think? i think what you doing is kind of nitpicking. you're not looking at the bigger picture, looking at the bigger picture, looking at the bigger picture. you know, you're taking one university here, strangely enough , alabama here, strangely enough, alabama tornadoes morning along the tornadoes this morning along the mississippi with the price because weather we're because it's weather we're talking weather. weather is the end game here is weather and what it does so i'm going to go quote from yourself i say at one time you say you last last year's 41.3 degrees are 40.3 degrees you raised that was a little bit hot. now in the just to the got a little bit hot actually according to the on killed 2500 people was cold and kills more people. i'm so to raise that jim because actually that that particular temperature was recorded at collins collins base. yeah that's right and was

right next to this is it this what they always do this is right next a concrete runway that supports two squadrons of typhoons , one of the hottest typhoons, one of the hottest places , the uk, and apparently places, the uk, and apparently over 40 for one minute. then shut down. let me tell you there was many, many places that were if they weren't so they tell you which is at this point can i just ask why, would they take that particular spot, though? i mean, going to be taking it that it's called an open hate island . okay. yeah, meteorological. meteorological observations. that's a scientifically done. they've got to these these temperature gauges stevenson screens properly exposed so that they get an accurate record and those records will be verified the met office of course because of the blank obviously it's not a case of being in the is a case of doing right thing scientifically you know satellite based temperatures include the temperatures that the oceans are the most effective and best way to go out world temperatures do not. can i

just help you agreement that that the best way to go to go using global satellite data that includes the ocean oceans are making it absolutely the ocean is not the best way look the way you make it the way it's just about temperature, about c02. it's about the weather per se . it's about the weather per se. it's about the weather per se. it's everything that goes with no , the oceans are taken a part no, the oceans are taken a part . the equation, the are taken both at the surface and down below ocean of risk do that. i used to do that when i was in the royal navy. the same thing and you do this you know you don't do it to make up stories. you've got to remember the ipcc report 700 not eminent science spent eight years and 5 minutes on the back of a stump trying to pick just the point about your extreme case. it's interesting that you say that about the extreme temperature in the uk this summer, because that sheet, you know what, it balanced you know what, it was balanced because the because australia had the coldest they've had. you

coldest they've ever had. you know, need to look at know, when we need to look at the as whole, don't the thing as a whole, don't wait, we not talk about wait, we not just talk about england. one thing england. no, it's one thing clear climate change, global warming not necessarily from place to place mean that you're going to just go into a massive heat island. you do get you there's better word for all of this, which is chaos, which creates the difficult is and the hazards in the deaths that we're seeing all over the world including today because this is it's earth day to day an earth day present as. it's earth day to day an earth day present as . oh you go on all day present as. oh you go on all of us. okay, you be coming down. there you go go . the in green. there you go go. the in green. you go anyway . so then give you you go anyway. so then give you somebody else . i know , i have to somebody else. i know, i have to convince somebody, not i say is look at the satellite data. you look at the satellite data. you look out. well, listen, that was of course, natural not meteorologist jim dale . all

meteorologist jim dale. all right. so call 26. right thank you very much. so let's have a look quick look at what you've been saying. daisy says change has been happening since the creation, the planet of the earth. says our climate is earth. john says our climate is changing in minute. changing in a minute. no different million different from the last million years says, in the next years, beth says, in the next million years so, million years or so, temperatures rise high temperatures will rise so high that will burn to that our planet will burn to a crisp i think we could crisp. i don't think we could stop if was going do that stop it if was going to do that anyway. well, you're me. i'm not to quit. is good is on tv to quit. this is good is on tv onune to quit. this is good is on tv online and on digital right after the break. we'll continue with great british debate with our great british debate this asking, do this hour. and i'm asking, do you that there is a you believe that there is a climate crisis? thoughts of climate crisis? the thoughts of my broadcaster my panel columnist, broadcaster has broadcast on has become the most broadcast on political . but political commentators. but first, get your latest first, let's get your latest news headlines . good afternoon. news headlines. good afternoon. it's 333. i'm bethany elsey with your top stories from the gb newsroom. bus drivers in the west midlands have ended their indefinite strike after accepting a pay offer . members accepting a pay offer. members of unite employed the bus

division of national express have accepted an offer which includes a one year 16.2% pay increase. unite's secretary sharon graham said by standing together. our members were able together. our members were able to secure an important above inflation pay offer . the inflation pay offer. the statistics watchdog the prime minister used incorrect figures when discussing home office action on tackling the asylum backlog. the chairman of the uk statistics authority, sir robert chote has written to the government to say figures used by including rishi sunak don't reflect official stats. he also said it's wrong to claim the conservatives have halved the number waiting for asylum application to be processed . he application to be processed. he says the backlog has by 150,000 since they took office . at least since they took office. at least 23 people have been killed following major tornado that hit the us state of mississippi. it's understood dozens have been

injured and. at least four people are missing after the twister swept through the and into alabama. the emergency management agency says the storm has left a trail of damage more than 100 miles long. entire buildings left in rubble , cars buildings left in rubble, cars overturned and trees uprooted. europe to date on tv, online plus, radio and tune in this is tv news. now it's back to nina . tv news. now it's back to nina. it's nice that willis. and stay us on these lots to come. justin tomlinson, m.p. will be joining me to discuss his life and, politics and boris's future. then at 4 pm, i'll be giving you my take on prince harry's us visa debacle after he revealed that his drug use in his memoir sped. that his drug use in his memoir sped . i'll be back after this

welcome back. it's coming up to 38 minutes after 3:00. this is gb views on tv online. on digital radio, we return to the great british debate this hour. i'm asking, do you believe there's a climate crisis now? scientists delivered their final warning on the climate this week . and according to the world's top scientists in the in the intergovernmental panel on climate change, we need to act now, otherwise it's too late . now, otherwise it's too late. the report said that carbon emissions need be cut by almost half by 2030 if the goal for global warming is set to be limited to 1.5, 1.5 degrees celsius is to be reached. now, the un secretary general antonio guterres said , the synthesis guterres said, the synthesis report is a survival guide for humanity. but and gas as shell companies has warned that the ipcc is net zero target may not be reached until the next century. so for the great british debate this hour, i'm asking, do you believe that there is a climate crisis? let's see my panel will make of see what my panel will make of that. joined by columnist

that. i'm joined by columnist broadcaster cundy. now broadcaster lizzie cundy. now support and political commentator sam lizzie commentator sam dowler lizzie cundy lipstick cundy with the super lipstick that of. yes it is that i'm jealous of. yes it is andifs that i'm jealous of. yes it is and it's my not having it that's don't do climate crisis yes it feels like chicken licking when he thought the sky was falling down. oh with the sky was as good. but we really look the climate up for me is happening because of a huge growing human population and it's chewing up resources and out pollution . but resources and out pollution. but the thing is, our own carbon emissions are so low . i mean, 1% emissions are so low. i mean, 1% we look and compare china, which is in the 34th, unless they start to do something. what is the point ? it is absolutely the point? it is absolutely stupid but people but just before you move on, the people will argue that actually this is what is happening here is a result of actually ordering things china. so the global the global economy is ordering things from china and of course then china the emissions are

going to china. but actually it's causing it. well, we've got put all our into, you know, convincing others like like us say like india doing something about their carbon emissions. this is a global problem and that's where we should be putting our energies into it really is the way to go forward the only way forward. well it's , like laozi said, it's distant this not a political issue. it's not a left or right. this is an every piece is a humanity issue. and obviously this year what the ipcc is, you know, it's scary and they're trying to scare people doing something and they're trying to scare peopleit. doing something and they're trying to scare peopleit. butioing something and they're trying to scare peopleit. but like something and they're trying to scare peopleit. but like covid,1ing and they're trying to scare peopleit. but like covid, well, about it. but like covid, well, the lockdown but this is mean. but don't need to you don't but you don't need to you don't need to look far to see, you know, the rising rising sea levels. you know, soon more tsunamis, more storms moving forward. you will be carry on this policy . oh, no, sorry . but this policy. oh, no, sorry. but do not ever question yourself to what people may have to gain by saying or whether there are vested interests. because, i mean, if you think about cop27, 27 of the things at 27 at the

time, think that they flew them jet, i mean, if they are serious, you do that? serious, would you do that? would had it by would they not have had it by zoom? just saying that zoom? i'm just saying that whilst trying to whilst they're trying to say it's a serious emergency. they're flying around they're still flying around things things like country things like things like country seven with optics. seven is to do with optics. joining now is so important. joining me now is so important. everybody is so political . why everybody is so political. why is this not like couldn't get china what's the that's that's like saying if they're not going to what's the point of doing it which is which is which isn't the case to make the difference but and but china's but and also but china's argument that they are 30 argument is that they are 30 years in the past like when we hit the industrial in this country and, then obviously in america say like know america as well say like we know we we are doing it now we even that we are doing it now they said will do it in 30 they said it will do it in 30 years time, but in 30 years time it be too late. and it will be too late. and obviously china is going to look. i as jim was look. and when i as jim was saying, you know, since records began, turns out said began, then it turns out he said for that last hundred years, it's exhilarating it's been exhilarating celebrating. then when i asked how been going, how long of records been going, he said 100 years. so i'm like, well, on a been going

well, hang on a it's been going on since you've been on ever since you've been counting about counting it. but what about before count then? before you count it then? i asked, there a time when asked, was there a time when carbon was before records? before the records? and he said, yes, there times yes, there was there were times when more carbon in. when there were more carbon in. the loads more. well the atmosphere loads more. well before these records. so my question really is that what makes from those makes this different from those times? i mean records times? well, this i mean records date back to pre—industrial times. yeah 100 he said times. yeah 100 years he said yeah talking yeah well and we're talking about few years and about the last few years and obviously the burning of fossil fuels which are finite , they're fuels which are finite, they're not going to last forever. and you know, it's a case of obviously, you know the temperature goes and as temperature goes up and then as soon temperature, even by soon as the temperature, even by 1.5, so then icecaps melt 1.5, then so then icecaps melt and basically 3 billion people are in areas whereby are living in areas whereby they could their lives could be flooded. their lives take their lives you take away that their lives you know it's it will be over 3 billion people in this world. remember our goal to remember him as all. yeah. did it happen? it didn't work. but his scaremongering didn't work. all they do keep telling us, they can do is keep telling us, oh, look, at end of the day, oh, look, at the end of the day, it won't affect us. it'll be our children our grandchildren children and our grandchildren have the price. well, you

have to pay the price. well, you know, but perhaps i mean, you know, but perhaps i mean, you know, something, know, when you do something, then there's reaction, but you then there's a reaction, but you won't reaction won't expecting that reaction sometimes you you're doing sometimes you think you're doing something. all something. if you think it's all just do that, just bad instead of do that, then something even then it causes something even worse i don't think worse to go wrong. i don't think that are consider in the that they are consider in the feedback of what, you know, taking the co2, doing this taking out the co2, doing this that you might the stuff that you might like. the stuff they're now giving they're doing now is giving out more losing co2. so the more co2 than losing co2. so the even that the even the things that the solutions putting solutions that they're putting in helping the in place actually helping the situation. hello so my point making for it and i don't forget that it by making that they make it by making money from this the civil servants, government money from this the civil servants, so government money from this the civil servants, so forth vernment money from this the civil servants, so forth vernmen making handouts, so forth making making money from it. but she must. but l, money from it. but she must. but i, i believe in in technology. and, you know, once we get like nuclear fission, for example, which endless amounts of free energy for everybody and they're getting closer closer to getting closer and closer to that every single and you that every single year. and you could you could blanket like areas of the sahara desert and basically have enough power to, you know, to power consider . so you know, to power consider. so these things have to be moved . these things have to be moved. they're not they're not genuine about it . so do they're not they're not genuine about it. so do this. they're not they're not genuine about it . so do this. they're about it. so do this. they're not genuine about it. they're

not genuine about it. they're not genuine. and if they don't genuinely look at it generally in okay , we're going to in about, okay, we're going to get rid of all plastics, get rid of all the plastics, then you will to the manufacturers you say you manufacturers and you say you cannot anymore. cannot produce this anymore. this this, this is this you do this, correct? so go back to the correct? so you go back to the manufacturers genuine manufacturers if they're genuine about were genuine about it, if they were genuine about it, if they were genuine about it, if they were genuine about it, they would go back to the actual source, the initial source, they would fix the source, and they would fix the problem. they're doing problem. they're not doing that. they're and they're going on the top and saying tax a bit more. saying we'll tax you a bit more. we're going to you're going to pay we're going to you're going to pay to this. you will pay to pay to do this. you will pay to go into that side. we're going to is not serious. we're to do this is not serious. we're going on making going to carry on making plastic. then to plastic. but then you want to get plastic. have to pay get plastic. you have to pay poppy get plastic. you have to pay poppy bank. you know, poppy for the bank. you know, like serious about it, like if you if serious about it, these things. so i want to see them stopping these things properly i'll take it properly then i'll take it seriously the point you seriously see the point so you appreciate point is appreciate that the point is yeah, not serious about appreciate that the point is ye'it's not serious about appreciate that the point is ye'it's a not serious about appreciate that the point is ye'it's a moneyt serious about appreciate that the point is ye'it's a money spinners about appreciate that the point is ye'it's a money spinner orbout appreciate that the point is ye'it's a money spinner or from it. it's a money spinner or from the get go to london is doing too rubbish drive. well too long rubbish drive. well it's yeah, it doesn't it's charging. yeah, it doesn't make all about make sense but it's all about it's all about money again like you say and i do agree with you, like it was it is that is

like if it was an it is that is really simple about it. why people going right no more people just going right no more plastics foods plastics in any of our foods anywhere it's actually down anywhere it's actually just down the make you do and the and actually make you do and make to make draconian said make sure to make draconian said tony decisions and i think tony and decisions and i think they always be that i'll they will always be that i'll take you and to go i live now and it is even more so what you see lizzie walking down the street with arms full of vegetables. i am a 20 year high. my bra, darling, those men are not serious . it they're not not serious. it they're not serious about it. and whilst i believe the climate is changing, which it anyway the record is right now hundred and all right now hundred and it all they're charging us they're doing is charging us more money so it's just doesn't seem to be adding but somebody is making a lot of money on this well are your well anyway. what are your thoughts? activities thoughts? gb views activities dot right . moving thoughts? gb views activities dot right. moving on. thoughts? gb views activities dot right . moving on. each dot uk right. moving on. each week putting spotlight week i'll be putting spotlight on politician . and this week on a politician. and this week i'm joined by conservative for nonh i'm joined by conservative for north swindon justin tomlinson. now, after serving as a local councillor for ten years, justin became an mp in 2010 and 2015, he was invited by the prime

minister david cameron to join the department of work and pensions . now, after a total of pensions. now, after a total of four years in the dwp , a four years in the dwp, a minister justin was appointed deputy of the conservative party by boris johnson in 2021. and over the last week justin's former boss has been all over the front pages, as we saw the kangaroo court , the inquiry. kangaroo court, the inquiry. it's already appalling experts said that you would lose an oxford byelection to labour . i oxford byelection to labour. i don't think so. let's look at starmer's also facing criticism following revelations his unique pension deal helps him avoid tax on his own savings . so are the on his own savings. so are the tories tasteless labour a suitable alternative ? right. so suitable alternative? right. so let's have a chat to justin and justin joins me now . justin. justin joins me now. justin. justin joins me now. justin. justin so what do you think ? justin so what do you think? nice to see to see you guys. sorry see someone else's punchline . so, justin, talk to punchline. so, justin, talk to me about use. so you became an mp, why why did you decide to get into politics you know, by accident ? well, because i wasn't accident? well, because i wasn't good enough to be a footballer.

i think my career for england is going to happen 100 to that but my school my classmates scott was the labour parliamentary candidate in 1992 and obviously schools very apolitical. so that schools very apolitical. so that school got very excited and they did a mock election and somebody had to be there and said to candidate, i put myself forward and i learned two very valuable lessons. firstly i really enjoyed it and i thought i'd like to do that as a career one day. and secondly, i'd have to get a hell of a lot better at because i secured a staggering two votes, which 50% of them were my own . very good, very . so were my own. very good, very. so you do believe you like a tory through and through it? in own view? what is your of conservatism? because it seems to have shifted some sort of liberalism that i don't i don't recognise . well well, i think , recognise. well well, i think, first of all, i'm from a very mixed family between my brothers and cousins . we every political

and cousins. we every political party lib dem, labour, greens don't vote at all they're all ticks. i'm the i'm on blue one. for me it was social mobility. i went to school , got some of the went to school, got some of the league tables. i lost my father at an early age but i had a instilled to me that it doesn't matter your academic background if you are willing to work you can progress in life and you should celebrate success, not success. and that's made me choose the conservative party . i choose the conservative party. i don't think politics is black . don't think politics is black. white was good things in all parties . white was good things in all parties. there's bad things in all parties . and all parties are all parties. and all parties are brought churches generally. politics goes round in cycles. so you i work hard in politics, but when i come home i normally saturday afternoon i'll be watching football. you're lucky that we're away in plymouth today. so i'm free for it. but you know, you've got to have moments. but for me it's about encouraging social mobility , encouraging social mobility, encouraging social mobility, encouraging opportunity and success in society. and that's

made me choose the conservatives . now i hear you and that of british success, it seems it just is the conservatives. they seem to be taxing a lot of success actually at the moment. they don't seem to be being true to the roots of what the conservative. what i would look and envision a conservative voter to be. how do you think it's changed since you've an mp 7 it's changed since you've an mp ? well, i think i think that's a fair it is a balance because we can't get away from the fact we spent £409 billion of direct covid support, which ultimately has to be paid back , and the has to be paid back, and the ongoing impacts the economy. but what hasn't changed is instinctively we're a tax party and as the economy recovers , we and as the economy recovers, we share the proceeds growth to return to hard working . but return to hard working. but there's the ethos of our party and you look up and down the country at left leaning councils the second they can get hold of people's money, you know, they

can't help but spend it like children in a in a candy store. so our instincts still are the right ones around us. and when we can, as we can pragmatically do that, we can deliver lower, lower taxing state. well well, let's hope that is the case we just had a shot of david cameron there ran away after the brexit all you happy with the direction the is going so looking now you had this whole thing with three four. how many leaders have you had now you i mean it just seems to be that we she seems to steadied the ship. so are you happy with the direction it seems to be charting now? well, i was team boris. so i one of the i mean, there were 60 of us left and at the end we overwhelmed. and last year however you look at it was about two years for the policy and that's we are languishing still a long way in the polls but i'll give credit to the prime what i'm seeing on the doors and no

mp knocks on more doors than i do. and there is there is starting to be signs of people saying actually he delivering and we were at that stage we burnt a lot of goodwill year so words warm words will not cut it with the electorate in in effect last chance something now ahead of the next general election evenin of the next general election even in good times to try and a fifth unprecedented term in office be a big ask but actually what's now happening a lot on the doors people are saying, well, actually, so far good after . last year a period of after. last year a period of calm stability and delivering and i said the prime minister and i said the prime minister and i said the prime minister and i spoke to many five pledges for the year that absolutely the pledges that are coming open the doors and we will be judged on them if we can deliver on those. and crucially, prime minister can those, we can deliver on those, then we have fighting chance come the have a fighting chance come the next if don't do that, next election. if don't do that, then the political tides will come and take out because you have to earn the right to

represent people . we cannot represent people. we cannot simply rely on, you know, the labour party not fit to be a government . you have to earn government. you have to earn that right to represent people. really, i that's what they're relying on with you guys and that's what they're relying the labour party relying on that with you. it really with the way the conservative party has sort of themselves over the of carried themselves over the last hasn't been good last year. it hasn't been good but kind of i'm in a sense but i kind of i'm in a sense team boris and after watching kangaroo court this week i can't help but it that because it seems so ridiculous . what's your seems so ridiculous. what's your take on all of that . well, i've take on all of that. well, i've had no emails on it. i think that the few people who talk to me about, it have not changed their view . i think you'd be their view. i think you'd be hard pressed to find a member of parliament who hasn't taken a view. and i think the reality is the privileges committee was set at the time probably with the aim of those who wish to remove him as the prime minister, that this would be the ultimate mechanism to remove him as the prime minister , the length

prime minister, the length of time it's taken to get to time that it's taken to get to having the former prime sit in front of them . he has ceased to front of them. he has ceased to be the minister. in be the prime minister. in effect, aim has been effect, their aim has been achieved be honest, achieved. and to be honest, i just people have already made the mind up time to towards the mind up time to look towards the mind up time to look towards the future. i think it was unedifying as a spectator. i watched it from my parliamentary office and i thought i thought he was robust his defence i'm not convinced that the people were necessarily be swayed . i were necessarily be swayed. i just think we've moved on. it doesn't do any of us any good. yeah, i think they should just leave him alone. are they so intent on his career and the change, the language from knowingly to recklessly seems to a deliberate attempt to ensure there's no escape for boris and that the judgement has been done without judging , you know, who's without judging, you know, who's right or wrong. will because i think all of your viewers will have already made their mind up before. they were listening to

that point is this was set up as a mechanism to hasten his removal as a prime minister that has already happened i just feel the country wants to look forward. we've been so much with covid the shocks , the economy, covid the shocks, the economy, shootings, illegal invasion of ukraine and the knock on effect to living costs . the society is to living costs. the society is looking to of all parties to provide a little bit of enthusiasm, a little bit of hope going forward. i just didn't feel that that was the highlight of the week and it certainly zero emails on it. the public are not hanging on. what's going to happen to the privileges committee? i just don't see the point now. they cease to be the prime minister, rightly or wrongly, it's just this six months, a year, too late to have relevance, in my view . mm hmm. relevance, in my view. mm hmm. and for then, your highlight of your career and your goals that your career and your goals that you are looking to achieve . you are looking to achieve. well, you know , getting elected, well, you know, getting elected, because i'm not from a political i didn't study politics. as i

said, i went to school on the league tables by myself. cory was , you know, i did business was, you know, i did business and marketing and then i was a nightclub manager for two and a half years after university. not many of us in parliament who follow career path. and follow that career path. and i then own business for ten then my own business for ten years and i incredibly proud that i represent the community that i represent the community that i represent the community that i live in and what seen you know 23 years now as a cancer and mp politicians are not in the highest regard probably justifiably so but by and public quite like their own. i've just come from opening of a new community cafe and shop and people are always willing to stop and talk to you and you know, there are challenges in politics social media is character building to put mildly. but the massively outweigh i've so lucky to have been given that opportunity and you know, i have to pinch myself . i look at it historical, great politician , and i get do that. politician, and i get do that. i've been at the dispatch , i was

i've been at the dispatch, i was number two in the dwp. i got to be deputy chairman of the party that i love and, you know, i've been very, very lucky . i hope it been very, very lucky. i hope it will carry on. but you know, i accept i'm in a job where i'm always at the mercy of the public. you know, if my time up at some point in the future, that's to do something else. but until that point, i'm loving every minute of it. well, listen justin, it's been a pleasure talking to you. thank you so much for joining talking to you. thank you so much forjoining me. that's justin mp is a justin tomlinson, mp is a conservative for north conservative mp for north swindon. i've been swindon. well, today i've been asking, you there's asking, do you believe there's a climate of climate crisis? lots of you've been in touch with your been getting in touch with your views. mark the climate has been changing for thousands of years. civilisations gone like the civilisations have gone like the human the world human race will, but the world will spinning that. will keep spinning with that. you that ? you no doomsaying you hear that? you no doomsaying that we're off. yeah, we're off the dinosaurs. but now it's after russell says . there is no after russell says. there is no climate crisis, just an attempt to destroy western society. if nothing there's a lot of people making a lot of money up there. but and that says i no more in a

climate crisis i do in the tooth fairy how in the tooth fairy . fairy how in the tooth fairy. and finally jane says anyone who denies we're in a climate crisis must live under rock. well, if there is a and he says rock star, let's do jane that's a good thing. soto me, star, let's do jane that's a good thing. so to me, not star, let's do jane that's a good thing. soto me, not bad. i've been frightened yet. yeah, not just yet anyway , this, of not just yet anyway, this, of course, is gb news bet you're surprised to see me here. i'm done a. queer. there's loads more in the next hour. of course. i'll give you one of my fun monologues. be talking about brain power. you know, i'd love to tuned. more to do that. stay tuned. more coming way after 4:00. this coming your way after 4:00. this is david is you probably seeing politicians interviewed thousand times but we do it differently we find out who they really we don't shout we chaps and hopefully we bring a bit of light not just heat. did you okay apparently . how well do you okay apparently. how well do you have a pair of jeans or sometimes because did what would i do with them friends why. oh, my god. what's she doing now ?

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get the latest news. good afternoon. approaching 4:01 on radisson in the gb newsroom bus drivers in the west midlands ended their indefinite strike, accepting a pay offer . members accepting a pay offer. members of unite employed national express in the west midlands began their walkout on monday. the offer, accepted by more than 3100 drivers, includes a one year 16.2% pay rise. unite's general secretary sharon graham says her achieved the above inflation by standing together . inflation by standing together. the of the fire brigades union is calling for mass non—cooperation with the government's new anti strike. the minimum services bill would give ministers the power force. certain union members in key sectors to work on strike days or face losing jobs. sb general matt wrack is calling bill one of the most draconian attacks on

the rights of working people in decades. firefighter and trade union activist paul embery says the legislation would make the situation worse . basically force situation worse. basically force workers to cross picket lines which are being manned by their colleagues . i, i think it is colleagues. i, i think it is completely unprincipled and unethical and. i just don't think it would. the idea that workers going to be strong armed into breaking a strike that they've voted for, i think is just fanciful . so in the end, just fanciful. so in the end, i think this bill certainly is a good bill and it's going to inflame the situation in my view, make the strikes even worse . the statistics watchdog worse. the statistics watchdog says the prime minister used incorrect when discussing home office action on tackling the asylum claims. office action on tackling the asylum claims . the office action on tackling the asylum claims. the chairman of the uk's statistics authority, sir robert chote , has written to sir robert chote, has written to the government saying figures used by ministers, including rishi sunak do not reflect official stats. he also said it's wrong to claim that the conservative lives of half the

number of people waiting for their asylum application to processed. in fact, he says the backlog has increased by 150,000 since they took office in east london cars . residents and london cars. residents and tractors have been lining the roads to protest the expansion of the ultra low emission zone . of the ultra low emission zone. the mayor of london, sadiq khan , says proposal would expand congestion zone to cover whole of the city. transport london claims that nine out of ten cars driving in outer meet the ulez standards so will not be liable for the charge . however, the rac for the charge. however, the rac say 700,000 drivers in the capital would face a daily fee of £12. 50 two teenage boys have been charged . the murder of a 16 been charged. the murder of a 16 year old who was stabbed to in northampton. rowan shand, known as fred , died following the as fred, died following the attack on afternoon. the 14 and

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paltrow testified that she initially thought she was being sexually assaulted after a collision with a retired on a ski slope in in 2016. 76 year old terry sanderson is accusing the oscar winning actress crashing into him and says he's with a permanent traumatic injury as a result. he's suing for damages worth a quarter of £1,000,000. ms. paltrow denies the allegations and claims that mr. sanderson collided with her. i was skiing and. two skis came between my skis , forcing my legs between my skis, forcing my legs apart . then there was a body apart. then there was a body pressing against me and there was a very strange grunting noise. so my brain was trying to make sense of what was happening. i thought, am i? is this a practical joke? is someone doing something? this is really, really strange . and really, really strange. and cattails . sheikh jassim has cattails. sheikh jassim has submitted an improved offer to buy manchester united football club. a source close to the bid

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montecito may well be ejected . montecito may well be ejected. america as well . oh, my heart america as well. oh, my heart bleeds . it's america as well. oh, my heart bleeds. it's hilarious . after bleeds. it's hilarious. after prince harry opened his big mouth and admitted taking magic mushrooms and cannabis before moving to the states in his pathetic memoir, spare and in his recent pay per view therapy session with toxic trauma expert , dr. mattei and investor is now underway to confirm he disclosed his drug taking when he applied for his residency permit, an admission of which usually ends with visa applicants rejected a fate meted out to nigella lawson, who admitted to cocaine, and pete daugherty the libertines frontman who was banned due to his drug related arrests. a freedom of information note was currently trying to obtain the details. and if prince has lied, which seemed customary he may find himself out his big old ears, they left . in the meantime to they left. in the meantime to make them appear busy and seem

relevant meghan markle not happy with turning harry woke it appears is convinced to her husband that masculinity is toxic and there are lots . toxic and there are lots. charity has partnered with the global boyhood initiative prince harry, formerly a man's man which by all accounts would probably be a toxic phrase under the initiative as it claims the term boys will be. boys is dangerous . prince term boys will be. boys is dangerous. prince harry and his wife share see now supporting this organises which go into schools peddling the notion to young children that gender is not connected to sex organs and that boyhood is fluid . the sort that boyhood is fluid. the sort of toffs which my view will only result in some very kids who grow up to be even more confused in adulthood . and to london in adulthood. and to london schools of on board this claptrap as if they haven't got anything else to do maybe teaching the kids. here's a thought how about these schools stick to maths and english. the genenc stick to maths and english. the generic subjects on the curriculum rather than overstepping their and doing the job of the parents who wants a

prince and is narcissistic wife telling the world how to live. from what i can see, they advise you to do something the opposite. do the opposite of what they tell you to do. they also have to confirm whether they're to coronation. they're coming to coronation. i feel sorry for the royal family having to appease these two. they're still people who actually feel sorry for them come on. surely the penny has dropped . this dvds on tv online dropped. this dvds on tv online now? no digital radio. i'm not equipped for the next hour. me and my panel will be taking some of the big topics, hitting the headunes of the big topics, hitting the headlines right now. this show is all about opinion. it's mine, it's and of course it's it's theirs. and of course it's yours. be debating. yours. we'll be debating. discussing times will discussing it. at times we will disagree, will be disagree, but no will be cancelled. me today cancelled. so me today is broadcaster columnist lizzie cundy and also broadcaster and political commentator sam dowler . still to come, the great british debate this hour. i'm was boris johnson held in a court now this the former prime

minister sat to the privileges committee inquiry over alleged breaches of lockdown rules in downing street during the pandemic. his allies including jacob rees—mogg have called the process a kangaroo court . but do process a kangaroo court. but do you think johnson was tried fairly or do you seem to think he simply a scapegoat then of all 50 as world round up and royal biographer angela levin will in the studio to give will be in the studio to give all latest from behind the palace walls, including why prince meghan to be prince harry and meghan to be stalling to attend stalling about whether to attend the in may the king's coronation in may then stay tuned at five i'm joined by a very special. imagine being adopted aged just six months old. it's find your birth mother years later and then to discover that has just six months left to live when olympics medallist jamie bolt will be me. but this week's difficult conversation to tell is harrowing story. difficult conversation to tell is harrowing story . that's is harrowing story. that's coming up in the next hour. is harrowing story. that's coming up in the next hour . as coming up in the next hour. as even coming up in the next hour. as ever, tell me what you think, what everything we're discussing. email gbviews@gbnews.uk or tweet at gbviews@gbnews.uk or tweet me at

. gb news. right. let's welcome again to my panel broadcast from columnist lizzie cundy. also broadcaster, political commentator sam dowd . right. so commentator sam dowd. right. so i'm going to start with you, scott, be lazy go because she's met meghan markle my best friend . we're very close. she goes she goes to the swimming pool. how dashing . she's just as well. dashing. she's just as well. yes. you've got to get over it, baby. i've got to get over it. believe me, i'm over it. yes. so they fit the frogmore chateau. another getting frog marched out the potentially. potentially the us. potentially. potentially yes, but please. i don't want this happen. i don't want them back here. i really don't. but i mean, i've got to say, harry, why why do this? you've shot yourself the foot. well, it be all open about taking legal. look, that's up to him. if that's what he wants to do. but then, you know , if you're going then, you know, if you're going to be out there in the open, you have consequences . have to pay the consequences. and what a fool he is. thicker than i thought thought . is it than i thought thought. is it

because really, really does . and because really, really does. and i think they're in trouble. i think they really are in trouble. and as you said, diana, i mean, we've had people katie was banned . nigella lawson was was banned. nigella lawson was also for confessing. they took drugs . what a fool . but i don't drugs. what a fool. but i don't think he thought that he didn't think he thought that he didn't think it through. he didn't think it through. he didn't think that anything could happen to him. i don't think he even thought there was thought that there was a punishment. know punishment. well, i didn't know it didn't. first of all, it didn't. the first of all, wouldn't the publishers have said the money, obviously said to the money, obviously they want the. but he's difficult. and i didn't i didn't think that just admitting to like, you know, taken cocaine or or smoked weed, for example, in the from the uk would stop you from going. mean, if you had going. i mean, if you had a drugs charge like paul, like doctor then then understand. and if just said that you did. if you just said that you did. well, me ask you whether well, let me ask you whether you have this and if have taken drugs in this and if you you yes, then they you if you say yes, then they often let you in. yeah. often won't let you in. yeah. and nigella actually admitted it. mean this thing is it. well i mean this thing is with him and you know, obviously this was all for the book. it

was the door. you know, was all for the door. you know, they pound of flesh they needed their pound of flesh from mean, he was like from him. i mean, he was like blaming courtney cox for the for the mushrooms, which the magic mushrooms, which was dishing blamed dishing them out when he blamed his brother for the war. he put the outfit on himself . yeah, but the outfit on himself. yeah, but he still managed to blame somebody . what do mean? i've somebody. what do you mean? i've always thought. took always thought. if you took magic mushrooms, make magic mushrooms, it would make him oh oh, my god. him fun. guy. oh oh, my god. i see. say that . i know, but he's see. say that. i know, but he's got so many different names. that's the problem . you know, that's the problem. you know, with the officials, he has several different names that are all different titles . you know, all different titles. you know, we got harry, harold , you know, we got harry, harold, you know, spare part h, h, duke of manchester. what is the worry on the us generation population. they're trying to find out what it could have massive effect it could do. i do like it. i mean, i know you said you didn't, but i know you said you didn't, but i do. that drives like boys will be boys for example you know thatis be boys for example you know that is quite toxic masculinity. and i do want to talk what it is, but excusing boys

is, but it's excusing boys behaviour like, know, behaviour for like, you know, like for example , i know like like for example, i know you about gender and stuff you talk about gender and stuff like if i had been taught lgbtq stuff at it would have stuff at school it would have made a lot easier and made my life a lot easier and a lot of a lot less pain . but so lot of a lot less pain. but so i think that, you know, yeah , but, think that, you know, yeah, but, but, but listen, that's all very well. but i don't believe that's the place of school to be teaching that the schools should be maths and english be focusing on maths and english and how evolve and history for how you evolve it down your parents. my it down to your parents. my parents parents me parents my parents taught me about not being about racism and not being racist. people this in different cultures those things cultures and this those things are things that my parents to pass on to me. it's not to down a teacher to say oh no it's not down to a teacher has got a certain narrative to that narrative. that's what and it's not brainwashing but that's the saying saying that it's to be to have your own or to be this way or that's not what that's what no one saying that you should you shouldn't should like, you know, like like a trans army or like creating bands of queer people. but that's that's the

same that's not really point. the main point is that schools are there to teach factual based education, not to tell people that you're your sex organs are not linked to your gender. that's what they're saying now. that's what they're saying now. that's think that's the that that's what they should that is should the context. no, no, no. i read it . let should the context. no, no, no. i read it. let me just i'm going to open up now. i want to just find it. but i have no sympathy whatsoever over for him. he shot himself in the foot. the best thing he could do is take a dose of christ water. you'll stop repeating , right? water. oh, repeating, right? water. oh, it's like . i don't. i don't feel it's like. i don't. i don't feel bad for him at all. think, you know. okay, so the quote is the quote is that the gender is not tied to sex organs. that's what they're telling me. yeah, but that's coming. like, i mean, that's coming. like, i mean, that could be part of, like, a whole. no, no, no, no, no. that's totally the boyhood initiative. they're telling initiative. and they're telling you your gender you that your gender is not connected you now, as connected. you know, now, as a parent, i would i would be parent, i would i would not be happy or daughter going happy with son or daughter going school being told that. and school and being told that. and i it's the place of

i don't it's the place of a school to be telling people that it's that's the it's not on. but that's the wrong on talking about it. i think that's not actually happening that are to happening at schools that are to schools. are two schools. schools. none are two schools. the and so it's gone to the other. and so it's gone to two schools london. is two schools in london. this is what teaching them all what they're teaching them all believe. it is not. i believe it. and the it. what it's about and the foundation understand foundation they want understand what it about kids feel what it about making kids feel safe and loved . and if they can safe and loved. and if they can fuse it makes them feel like they're so it's a very smart and i got to follow it so i'm absolutely livid with this yeah and as a parent i'm livid with it. that's not what my son would go to school been told. yes i know. i don't care if somebody thinks that you're allowed to thinks that you're allowed to think if you're a parent, think that if you're a parent, you want to teach your kids that that's fine. but don't want that's fine. but i don't want the schools be teaching my the schools to be teaching my that though fact because that as though it's fact because my school, to learn fact my kids to school, to learn fact to and stuff to and learn english and stuff all the by they're not there all get the by they're not there to learn. well this is this to learn. oh well this is this is the philosophy that we are following because we believe that it's trans in

that now but it's trans in because could that it because it could mean that it could that no yeah. the could be that no yeah. the confusion it brings confusing kids i think and kids i think but i think and i think it specifically think it is that specifically this i we know that harry this i mean we know that harry and meghan in particular are fond overreach when it comes fond of overreach when it comes like things like you know taking off things and is and there is something about obviously said about obviously like you said you their own gain. and you know for their own gain. and i you with these with i think you know with these with these sensitive topics and these very sensitive topics and i you know, the wording i think, you know, the wording of the something only two schools have taken up. but i felt i mean, i, you know, felt like i mean, i, you know, they should be there is in they should be there is merit in what but think what they're saying. but think it tempered for the it should be tempered for the right audience? don't think right audience? i don't think i don't think there's any merit, frankly. the frankly. i think down to the parents and they should not be overreaching. is being overreaching. that name is being so open . the way is so open. you so open. the way is so open. you know what? it's in commercial gain and it's bit him in the terrible. let's see hope that the only funny thing thrown at the only funny thing thrown at the . state board from . oh well the. state board from. oh well it's good you just joined us welcome board i'm not that

queen welcome board i'm not that queer. this is good on tv, onune queer. this is good on tv, online and digital already. after the break, it is time for great british debate. this hour, i'm asking, well, was boris johnson held in a kangaroo court? you think that was the court? do you think that was the case? because earlier this week, the former prime minister was quizzed privileges quizzed by the privileges committee farm gate committee over the farm gate scandal and his allies and including jacob rees—mogg have called the process a kangaroo court . but do you called the process a kangaroo court. but do you think called the process a kangaroo court . but do you think that court. but do you think that johnson was quite fairly and then it's only if it's this week's conversation . i'm having week's conversation. i'm having difficulty saying it. imagine being adopted at the age of just six months old, only to find birth mother years and years later , then tragically, to be later, then tragically, to be told that she has just six months left to live for . olympic months left to live for. olympic sprinter jamie bell will be joining me to tell his story as even joining me to tell his story as ever. some of your thoughts, email gb at gbnews.uk. or email gb views at gbnews.uk. or tweet at gb tell me tweet me at gb news. tell me what you think . i've a pull what you think. i've got a pull up now asking that up right now asking that question johnson your question was boris johnson your eyes held in a kangaroo ? cast eyes held in a kangaroo? cast your vote now after this .

and good afternoon. if you just join me , where have you paid? we join me, where have you paid? we actually have an extra hour today. so we started at 3:00 and will be going live from 3:00 here on gb news. i'm nana akua where live on tv online and on digital radio. and before the break we're discussing prince harry's visa issue used as of a quick look at what you've been saying . jock won't be saying. jock says he won't be coming coronation now coming to the coronation now you'll usa let him you'll be afraid the usa let him back in. but yes is a good point. maybe they won't. maybe they're talking anyway. bill says i, think you're brilliant. no one is cancelled except harry. who does? i wasn't against larry because no fun keeping him going. you know what mean? he's the friend who always tells lies and everyone says the laughing says prince laughing and jewel says prince harry never his us harry will never lose his us visa. whatever he he's visa. whatever he does. he's worth revenue to the us. what the. they're not now. they're,

they're quite straight when they make decisions like that but we'll see. but it is time for our great british debate this hour and i'm asking was boris johnson held in your eyes in a kangaroo court? now, this week, the former prime minister the privileges committee , in privileges committee, in a heated three hour session . now heated three hour session. now the inquiry is looking into whether misled the house about the covid guidance being broken , which he emphatically doing. but following the committee's session , johnson's allies, session, johnson's allies, including dudley north mp marco longhiand including dudley north mp marco longhi and north east somerset mp rees—mogg, have called committee a kangaroo court . and committee a kangaroo court. and on thursday, the former business sector tweeted, boris is doing very well against the marsupials . i got that very good. but not everyone is convinced by boris's performance . allies say that performance. allies say that he's already preparing for worst case scenario in which he has to fight by—election incidentally, i think he'll win. fight by—election incidentally, i think he'll win . a lot of i think he'll win. a lot of people are saying that he won't. unfortunately for former tory

prime minister, a tory polling expert told the times that if it came to it, they believed that he would lose. i don't agree . so he would lose. i don't agree. so for the great british debate this hour, i'm was boris held in a kangaroo court? well, joining me kaur me now is narinder kaur a broadcaster and commentator and a former conservative mp , peter a former conservative mp, peter dowd mp, former strategy secretary to the treasury and labour mp for bootle . i'll start labour mp for bootle. i'll start with you , narinder, because i with you, narinder, because i want to find out what your thoughts were because i know you were tweeting about what you were tweeting about what you were watching and people might be surprised at your thoughts, but what your thoughts? well, look, i was just being honest look, i was just being so honest . i look, i was just being so honest .i anybody look, i was just being so honest . i anybody who you know , . i think anybody who you know, you look at this on bbc, you want to look at this on bbc, i watched was in a i watched this was in a privileges . it was privileges committee. it was an unjust petty , vengeful, unjust and petty, vengeful, blatant stitch up. and i watched until i know it was fine knows i'm not a sports fan but i watched this is absurd. we are talking about did he start near that person. did you see the tape or did you watch the how at

home and who's the chairman ? and home and who's the chairman? and he was sitting a look created with such utter contempt . how is with such utter contempt. how is this ever going to be fair? it was the most disgraceful thing i've ever seen. and actually it was just not because is a privilege of committee how they will never back and be embarrassed . i sat there with my embarrassed. i sat there with my teenage children who were laughing like something out of a news and i said, why are you? nothing. they said, mum, this is what needs to happen to primary school. did you push the dog? please let the piece said. it was pathetic 18 months later and guess what the media and the left wing are still talking about cake. i am embarrassed. let's get the down and pay because he may have a different pizza. was the view . look, this pizza. was the view. look, this is a committee set up by the house of commons and it asks seven members to look at all the information the house asked us, asksit information the house asked us, asks it to do the job. seven members look at the information . they take the evidence. they

obviously, asked the former. prime this, that and the other. and then they will come back with their report in relation to recommend actions and potential sanctions . and we will see what sanctions. and we will see what that. sanctions. and we will see what that . but you know, this sanctions. and we will see what that. but you know, this is a committee that's been asked to do the job. don't blame the members , the committee, because members, the committee, because they're the ones who've been asked to do the job. and the members of parliament are asked to do all sorts of things. you say to them , how do we abolition say to them, how do we abolition committee have you heard me? he goes on, i bit like i'm i think i think the dangers you keep on interrupting me. it's going to sound like this is a kangaroo court . not really. i'm the judge court. not really. i'm the judge and won't let any kangaroos in it. you're want me? everybody is cool. it. you're want me? everybody is cool . no, they don't. come back cool. no, they don't. come back in a minute. i want to go and find it all the time. i just thought. look what i don't like. you can just speak amongst

yourself . it's not it's not yourself. it's not it's not a feature. no, no, no . i'm feature. no, no, no. i'm stunned. i've come on to talk about this and i'm being interrupted which is fine. so just let's for a thought. you don't want to hear what i've got to say. that's great. so let's call it a day. thank you much. oh, all right . have call it a day. thank you much. oh, all right. have a good day call it a day. thank you much. oh, all right . have a good day. oh, all right. have a good day. i'm going to come right. oh, yes . not almost myself. this question , if a jury is being question, if a jury is being gathered, convened , every member gathered, convened, every member of jury is told you have to have a complete impartial approach and. certainly, if any member of that jury had published a view beforehand , he or she would be beforehand, he or she would be disqualified . now, several disqualified. now, several people on that committee said in advance of the committee even sitting the first time that they considered boris to lied, they actually said that. so in other words they pronounced a verdict before hearing any of the

evidence. now that to my mind the very definition of a kangaroo court. so yes, i think this is a kangaroo court. i think the whole has been blown out of proportion . and in i out of proportion. and in i mean, we've we've just seen some very kind of golf misbehaviour from one member of the panel that's. what i think sums up this whole business. yeah, i mean , you know, and the other mean, you know, and the other part of it when you look at this is that actually, as we pointed out earlier , the reason for the out earlier, the reason for the privileges committee is actually to depose of a prime minister, bofis to depose of a prime minister, boris no longer the prime minister that those should they not have called this off. do you think. well think they should have called it off anyway because the police investigated and they kept redefine what they were looking at. first of all, it was did knowingly mislead the house and it was a well whether we knew or not that he mislead the house what every minister from time to time was it reckless you they redefined

question so often now there is just one question in my mind at the moment that he said that he thought the rules had been followed . did he actually think followed. did he actually think that the rules had been him? as far as i can see, to be quite honest about this, yeah i could have done that quite cheerfully in his position. if i, with people i've been working with all would see no all day, i would see no difference between meeting the people with a in my hand and meeting with a bit of cake in my hand. but also there was the support bubble. so they've all beenin support bubble. so they've all been in the same space, so they've all been the same space. then was the thing then there was the thing and i remember this very clearly that if distance if you couldn't distance yourself a metre in half or yourself to a metre in half or two you had two metres, then you had mitigation maybe everyone did mitigation so maybe everyone did a it was a covid test. so then it was okay because everyone had tested, negative. so, so tested, it was negative. so, so we that. and then there we did all that. and then there was the case that there were pictures. so the parliament photographer was taking pictures of anyway, i the of the events. anyway, i the rejoinder, i mean, i'm very surprised to hear you say what you and i, i am pleased

you said. and i, i am pleased that you've seen sense on this particular occasion. so you that because i can look at things unbiased and i watched that and i've been on this very same show criticising boris johnson jumping back nobody whether you dislike boris johnson, if you hate him, if you're a labour, if you're a left winger , you know, you're a left winger, you know, what's that like for you? the prime has just come off because, you know, it was embarrassing you. cannot sit there and say actually, he's a liar, he's lying. actually i watched that unfold. i'm relate to what he's saying. he's telling truth. i thought came across sincere thought he came across sincere and he getting frustrated and he was getting frustrated because the questions so because the questions were so ridiculous . they were so ridiculous. they were so ridiculous. they were so ridiculous. and kept asking the same question. expect a different result. but he's a story was typed and it was because he was saying there were guidelines and importantly he didn't intend janetti cause any harm he did what he was advised . i for one believe dame and i'm

not a person, but i am now because this was a political stitch up. they are going after boris. so that they want him out. and i think , you know, what out. and i think, you know, what is that? all you've got is? that you've this unjust police you've got this unjust police privileges committee ? it's not privileges committee? it's not even a proper legal setup . so, even a proper legal setup. so, mr. it's not even a proper legal setup . oh, well, listen, i mean, setup. oh, well, listen, i mean, want to add to that, but there's not much to add. and with a final 30 seconds, do you . yes. final 30 seconds, do you. yes. well the question was, wasn't a kangaroo court is was it a fair trial? no isn't. and . i think trial? no isn't. and. i think this is one of the most disgraceful episodes that i've seen in the comments. i think they'll obviously they've decided he's guilty, in my view . so we're just going to hang about until june, wait for the day of the obvious verdict . day of the obvious verdict. broadcaster and social commentator , you very much and commentator, you very much and welcome former conservative. thank you so much. and well, thank you, peter o'dowd, even though not here, he's though he's not here, well, he's out. and his former shadow chief secretary the treasury labour secretary to the treasury labour and people fatal. well so what

do if just do you think if you just arrived? welcome it's just coming up to minutes after coming up to 32 minutes after 4:00. gb news on tv 4:00. this is gb news on tv onune 4:00. this is gb news on tv online and digital radio. online and on digital radio. let's have a quick look what let's have a quick look at what you've saying. so this is, you've been saying. so this is, of it was. was of course it was. he was questioned by committee made questioned by a committee made up majority told up with the majority being told tories tories myself tories well they tories myself labour they homan she's labour when they homan she's labour when they homan she's labour but anyway whoever were they already decided john says westminster crooked kangaroo court tried their best failed and so on says but regardless the man was never fit office. but look what we have a man not voted for by his own party, let alone the general public yes good point and then just tuned in welcome with me and this is dvd is on tv online and on digital radio after the break we continue with that great british debate this hour. i'm asking both boris johnson held in a kangaroo court. you the thoughts of my panel columnist and broadcaster lizzie cundy also broadcaster lizzie cundy also broadcaster and political commentator sound dowler. but first, let's get your letters . first, let's get your letters. these headlines . 4:32 on

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and no setup fee! with average download speeds of 54 megabits per second, start going superfast now. welcome back this is gb views live tv online and on digital . live tv online and on digital. we are the people's channel. i'm nana akua. now back to our great british debate. this i'm asking, was boris held in a kangaroo court. this week. the former prime minister, boris johnson , prime minister, boris johnson, in front of the privileges who were deciding whether misled the house about party. now his

allies, including north—east somerset mp jacob rees—mogg mogg, have suggested that the committee is a kangaroo court. distancing hands space, which is the space part is either two metres at this time or it's one metres at this time or it's one metre with mitigations to disclose it two metres, three metres where possible, two metres where possible, two metres or one metre with mitigations is screen. what is the notion of a less than perfect and imperfect social distancing? but as you were telling this country to do distancing, but . telling this country to do distancing, but. but so did we in number 10 was accused of lawbreaking and i had to give undertakings the house of commons of all places that i have not broken the law. i would want the advice of a lawyer i would want the advice of somebody really independent, capable. and you didn't ask the cabinet . so capable. and you didn't ask the cabinet. so can i just capable. and you didn't ask the cabinet . so can i just interrupt cabinet. so can i just interrupt you for 10 seconds? i wasn't of lawbreaking. i was asked to,

say, what had gone on at a party. okay i'm nearly done . can party. okay i'm nearly done. can i just interject to meet your will? you accept that this committee can be fair and rather than being unfair and a witch hunt. than being unfair and a witch hunt . a fair wrong, while the hunt. a fair wrong, while the and a witch hunt is there much in it and? according to the times, boris is planning for the worst case scenario is to step up campaigning for an oxford byelection . so for the great byelection. so for the great british debate this year i'm asking was boris johnson held in asking was boris johnson held in a kangaroo court? well, let's see what my panel make that. i'm joined by columnist and broadcaster also broadcast broadcaster cundy also broadcast on sam on political commentator sam dowler . sam dowler watched that dowler. sam dowler watched that and i thought what is this, some sort of joke ? well, come on, the sort of joke? well, come on, the is in sydney kangaroos in that room. i and i think i think that saying i mean in general think in australia. yeah was my best

aussie but in sydney don't you know . i think like for example know. i think like for example a lot of the things going on around trump for example , people around trump for example, people say it's a witch hunt, it's a kangaroo court, but these are but i mean these are quite serious crimes he's accused of compared to what's going on here with boris. i mean, i do sort of i said to you before in the break that i do. i did love it because did because it's kind because i did because it's kind of british and not and of it's so british and not and it's like a wedding. it's like an episode of the vicar of dibley. i mean, like, what do you case? and i and, you who's the case? and i and, you who's the case? and i and, you know, he's been fined already. like boris all already. i don't like boris all i think, you know, i do think that if he was up for by—election, he would probably lose because i think because because are because the british people are out the tories right now out to get the tories right now and that would be and that would be like know a jewel in the be like know a real jewel in the but you've it because but you've changed it because but you've changed it because but were that you but you were saying that you yourself obviously you said yourself know obviously you said about your father yeah your father died during covid and you were unable to see because you had covid. yeah. so yeah. so i mean so obviously like that so

that part of it, i'm very still very with him and with the tories and with the parties. but like this is like this is like follow on from that. he's like he's been fined where? she's been fined like he's not the prime minister anymore. so like it's kind of one. so this was sort like like a sidebar of sort of like like a sidebar of like entertainment and like we're of entertainment and i just i don't think it i just, i just i don't think it was kangaroo court. i think, was a kangaroo court. i think, it was actually do i think it was not particularly. was relevant? not particularly. do i would i like to have to do it by—election. yes would like to but i mean but to see that. but i mean but again, as it was very again, as i said, it was very british, was just like was british, was just like it was kind of twee a way. lizzie well if hops has huge tail, has if it hops has huge tail, has little arms it's a kangaroo very similar . little arms it's a kangaroo very similar. they have out of little arms it's a kangaroo very similar . they have out of they similar. they have out of they commissioner harriet harlow looked like the head mistress you never wanted to see you in the corridor with a face like sucking a lemon with already the committee who weren't even made that their minds. he was guilty it was a toe embarrassment

totally a kangaroo court in my eyes for goodness sake, please, let's stop looking behind us. that's not the way we're going. look in front this is a total waste of money, time and energy . but, you know, for me, i thought i that it needed to be highlighted that our politicians are, first of all, wasting time, money on, this. but secondly, the fact it is clearly a stitch up in my and the reason i say thatis up in my and the reason i say that is because of the tweets that is because of the tweets that harriet harman has put there. they've they've put out messages where they are literally trying . you mean, literally trying. you mean, like, would even the like, why would you even the rules to, recklessly, rules knowingly to, recklessly, which means knowingly, you can't pay which means knowingly, you can't pay someone know something so thatis pay someone know something so that is something that is impossible, think and if impossible, do you think and if it convinces everybody, then you can say may not have known can say he may not have known and actually posted have some good he look, good points. he said, look, i have the photographer there and he's pictures. he's taking pictures. if he thought tough to get thought that it was tough to get a in trouble. why would a get in trouble. then why would you pictures? the you take pictures? it was the official not actually official i did not actually realise how much i miss boris. no, you know, we did look. what

is actually what? he was with you there . i think you're you there. i think you're telling the truth. but he was obviously coached. he was coached you know, a of coached by, you know, a of lawyers. but the massive that he gave in the before you would gave in the day before you would you you're going for you be you're going in for political absolutely but like i said was what was what was said what was what was what was the point of it really ? i mean, the point of it really? i mean, he's like he's like he's already take with her and i've ever agreed with dorinda. right because it was like school ground mentality which totally did you know he explaining himself so well i think i'm making the rest of the look so foolish. but some of the more left wing papers came out and said that boris was angry . he said that boris was angry. he messed up. i was thinking , did messed up. i was thinking, did you think he'd angry some i mean, your left. i think is subjective, isn't it? really like ? you could you could take like? you could you could take it. you could take it. you did you think? i think it was i think it was frustrate it. of course it's i don't see these it was he's been frustrated by the entire thing. i mean like you

know, he's his house of know, he's like his house of cards fallen down long time cards has fallen down long time ago. i mean, that's the is ago. so i mean, that's the is irrelevant but like was of irrelevant but like he was of course frustrated about course he was frustrated about being being asked being like you said being asked the over and over the same thing over and over again. but that that is so that's kind of what lawyers do anyway in order to just get you to like. but to practise you like. but they were things like one of were saying things like one of them well, were, them went well, if it were, i would do this not it was not use it. so you got to tell him that based on what your stance would be, that's you should be be, that's what you should be doing. the bit where doing. and then the bit where they as they were so make they so as if they were so make sure that you're not going to tell everybody that the kangaroo court everybody is court will you tell everybody is it? it was like it? okay i think it was like i was not a kangaroo poll. it was all goes. it was it was a wallaby course. i felt very embarrassed for them. i felt embarrassed for them. i felt embarrassed watching. i really felt embarrassed . i was felt embarrassed. i was squirming. i went into a frog , squirming. i went into a frog, which i guess i actually thought, i can't believe is actually happening. and we paying actually happening. and we paying for it and we were wasting . but but but worries me wasting. but but but worries me though is fact that they are so

delusional that they think that that relevant and important that is relevant and important to now when we're in the our to us now when we're in the our interest rates just gone up interest rates have just gone up you a lot of are you know a lot of people are struggling. the reason and struggling. and the reason and again, why people again, the reason why people might say, why are you talking about talking about it about it? i'm talking about it because. you look at because. i want you to look at politicians ask yourself, do politicians and ask yourself, do you people running you want these people running the them it's the country? a lot? them it's just embarrassed. totally just i'm embarrassed. totally embarrassed. any of them embarrassed. want any of them running the country. that's why i'm celebrity. bring i'm a celebrity. leave bring one. now. i don't know one. come back now. i don't know who doesn't want who is saying he doesn't want come come off him come back. you come off him back. yeah hopping mad back. yeah he'd be hopping mad if oh. oh oh. i love if he does. oh. oh oh. i love that one. listen, this is nothing without you and your views. let's our partners views. let's our great partners voice opportunity to be on voice their opportunity to be on this show and tell us what you think about the when discussing. i to over to i always love to head over to fryston breath he fryston i love the breath he always out with good always comes out with good stuff, so we might as well to. leigh, did you watch skippy leigh, did you watch the skippy court? skinny, kangaroo. court? skinny, skinny kangaroo. did ? i did not. it was did you? i did not. it was excruciating i mean, i watched most of it was like the whole thing but i got like most of it

in my view, forest provide a really robust and frankly very relatable defence. and the committee just had absolutely no interest in what you have to say you know they clearly all ready made up their minds which is why the questions were repetitive petty and frankly ridiculous . petty and frankly ridiculous. you know, i was watching some of it with my head literally in my hands it was it was an absolute to anyone with a strong sense of fairness, justice, democracy would have to agree. there is kangaroo court. you know , the kangaroo court. you know, the ridiculous committee are trying to prove the unprovable . you to prove the unprovable. you know, they're trying to almost try and work out what boris was thinking at the time and it's just ridiculous. you know, they're acting children. jacob rees—mogg dog was absolutely right . describe this as right. describe this as a kangaroo court. you've never accept a judge who passes verdicts on someone's guilt or innocence before saying the evidence . this is a joke. you evidence. this is a joke. you know, the optics are terrible.

they as you said, they've moved the goalpost and they recklessly misled parliament, literally redefined the offence after the event, which is completely unjust irrespective of your views . boris, the process is views. boris, the process is clearly unfair , immoral and a clearly unfair, immoral and a witch hunt is specifically designed to permanently remove bofis designed to permanently remove boris from politics. they're acting children. it's an embarrassment . acting children. it's an embarrassment. thank you very much, leigh. so succinct as even much, leigh. so succinct as ever. that's leigh harris. he's that great. his voice started to torture. so to drop that great. his voice started to torture. soto drop in asking was boris in a kangaroo court in the pouch of a kangaroo? have been getting in touch with your views that he says doesn't matter if he didn't understand his own laws and regulation in which he imposed on the population. he's not for office. well, you say well, i'm afraid you can say that about a lot the men that about a lot of the men jacqui let see the jacqui says. now let see the privileges committee look into storm and rain on their beer career night in durham. exactly a. exactly. and these ones, they were proven because we heard the angela rayner there, but then

she was if you ever met angela raynen she was if you ever met angela rayner, you don't get to mr. what you would think john says this deranged witch hunt needs to stop now for the sake of democracy . well the verdict will democracy. well the verdict will be out in june. democracy. well the verdict will be out in june . we've got to be out in june. we've got to wait until june. yes, because what they're doing is they're trying calm us down so that trying to calm us down so that we'll forget this a we'll forget that this is a hop, a up, then they're a stitch up, and then they're going to find him well, going to find him guilty. well, there's a poll up on there's also a poll up on twitter the show twitter throughout the show asking as far as being held in a kangaroo court currently, 75% of you know, what's you say, yes, you know, what's being done with this is on tv, onune being done with this is on tv, online and on digital radio. after as well, around after the break as well, around that will that time. and angela levin will be joining to discuss all the latest, royal latest, going in the royal household, including the council of trip . then stay tuned of friends trip. then stay tuned at five this week's day for good conversation be speaking to olympic athlete jamie bolt joining his joining me to tell me about his harrowing story at the tender age of eight is six months. jamie doctor met his jamie was a doctor and met his birth mother only to find in adulthood that she had sadly six months live . don't go months left to live. don't go anywhere. we'll back after anywhere. we'll be back after this .

good afternoon . this is a gb good afternoon. this is a gb news tv online and on digital radio. we are the people's channel. i'm not a. now there's always something on in the royal household. and this week is no different. prince william poland on a surprise trip to show gratitude towards the british and polish troops aiding ukraine with their war effort . and that with their war effort. and that is as prince harry and meghan still undecided over whether to attend king charles's coronation in may after receiving a formal invitation. meanwhile king charles and the queen consort have postpone their trip to france after the violent pension protest . and of course, every protest. and of course, every saturday. i'd love to give you a rundown on who better to that than royal biographer angela levin. angela, it's been another really busy week for the royal household . yes, i know. it's household. yes, i know. it's i don't if it's the run up to the

coronation or just this , a lot coronation orjust this, a lot more interest in what they're doing or what they're not doing . you know said about harry, i just do that. but yeah, let's go back why that he's not decided yet but it was in the today that he felt that the suspect royal family moment and they thought they would be lovely to come not from them but from an age or somebody speaking on their behalf . that's quite behalf. that's quite interesting. in other words, they're terribly scared that any programme that they're going to do afterwards won't work unless they're here. i don't believe suddenly having spitting vile for 2 to 3 years that they suddenly it's a lovely family engagement, togetherness is softening itself up to let us know that they may well be coming. well, i think they're manipulating us? certainly. i don't think softening us up because i do think that the

world. yes, that's very nice of you. you know , you can't you. you know, you can't actually be so rude. and then suddenly think it's a lovely family thing. the whole point to get away from the lovely family because it wasn't lovely at all, but i thought i'd just keep you up date on that one. yes. yes. and the visa situation as well as to whether he will be allowed back in if he does go. do you think that's a do you think unlikely that they will sort of lift his or wife? well, lift his visa or wife? well, i think that they ought to actually release the form that he that they he signed. i don't that they should keep that. i mean, they made special arrangements for him or did he lie ? and i think him or did he lie? and i think that that's very important . i that that's very important. i think it's in the public interest that we know that, because if got away with it, then why can't lots of people get with it? not that i'm encouraging drug taking, but you can't actually take advantage of things just because you're a sort ex prince, can you? i mean, it's just not all his friends, your love that that , of course.

your love that that, of course. prince william. he was out was in poland. yes. what the interesting thing about him is the contradiction between how harry's cold and he's coped. they both had the same very difficult family. they both lost their mother. they love mother, both of them. and here is william who i thought this time looked so happy in his own skin . i haven't really seen that this awkward or he knows what he's doing . i thought he was he's doing. i thought he was very relaxed in his own skin. he was absolutely delighted. two small children roared with with them and looked after. he did them and looked after. he did the same with military ri, who were there to thank them. and when he walked to put the wreath , the unknown soldiers , he , the unknown soldiers, he walked an absolute lead. the save as the guards who were walking down as well. there and i thought, you know, he looked so elegant and he looked so comfortable and so assured. but well done him. it's been very, very hard for him. and i think

we need to think that, you know, with the help of catherine and having children and becoming a father and softening up that he's actually really blossomed into an incredibly nice young man. you can see his confidence growing and sort of as he's sort of elevated in stature from what he's been doing. prince harry's been going down sort of like a can do now . you think prince can do now. you think prince harry was on on the television talking about all his. and there's william who's doing good work and over there to, very near the line with ukraine and actually thanking both and poush actually thanking both and polish soldiers for they're doing. yeah, that's really very important. yeah. and i hear two superfans went out there to meet him. so to superfans went out there to meet him. soto polish people are superfans who really wanted to meet him and they couldn't believe that they got to meet. so that was really like. yes, very accessible. yeah, very accessible . now, about king accessible. now, what about king charles because was charles now? because was supposed to france. yes of

supposed to go to france. yes of course. and macron, i think, course. him and macron, i think, was side decided was leave macron's side decided that they'd have to reschedule. well, was entire italy well, it was entire italy entirely from his side . i mean entirely from his side. i mean he that it wasn't a he realised that it wasn't a good because was sort of painted across walls saying, you know king charles, i said do you know what, the guillotine is ? and what, the guillotine is? and they burned to door and some one of the towns he was going to visit. so it was a good idea for him to go . i have here the men him to go. i have here the men knew that they were going to have a merci. yes two absolutely leading chefs . asparagus it was leading chefs. asparagus it was a sultry and truffle. oh three cheeses with jelly. oh french cheeses, no doubt . and then cheeses, no doubt. and then dessert tarte tartare with caramel dried fruits. there's a meat in that there's no no, there's no meat. but also, what's interesting is that it's i mean, it's not over simple, but it's quite simple. i mean, it just shows it's a sort of

huge banquet with and this and that , you know, it's quite that, you know, it's quite straightforward things , but it straightforward things, but it is astounding, to be honest. well, i think it is captured by the best cooks in in paris. i think it would be fantastic , think it would be fantastic, actually. well, i think it's i wouldn't knock it away really, really . and finally , margaret's really. and finally, margaret's granddaughter doing a bit of modelling. yeah. so that's very touching. actually, i mean her father is now the lord snowdon his father and she's france doing a course on jewellery making but she's on the front of a glossy magazine looking absolutely stunning beautiful like her mother blonde hair. her mother used to grow lavender in the french hills . and so she's the french hills. and so she's she's a very, very nice woman. she's got her father's talent because she was a very good carpenter, the first royal to have a job. and her grandfather,

of course , a photographer . so of course, a photographer. so she's she's it's nice to see some of the 28, 26 and 16 don't get it. but she's she's a lovely woman. add to the royal family and relevant as ever. always a pleasure. thank you so much. thank you. it's torture. this is gb news more to come in the next hour. houn good afternoon. has just gone 5:00. this is a gb news on tv onune 5:00. this is a gb news on tv online and digital. but it does get as well. you can download the gb news app. you can out all the gb news app. you can out all the programmes here on the channel for the next hour with me and panel be taking on me and my panel be taking on some of big topics, hitting some of the big topics, hitting the headlines coming up, the headlines now. coming up, i'll be joined by olympic athlete who was adopted met athlete who was adopted and met his birth mother in adulthood only that she had only to find out that she had six months left to live and for the great british debate this houn the great british debate this hour, asking sir keir hour, i'm asking sir keir starmer be starmer fit to be prime minister. but first, let's your

latest headlines . latest news headlines. approaching 5:01 on ray anderson in the gb newsroom the statistics watchdog says the prime minister used incorrect figures when discussing the asylum claims. figures when discussing the asylum claims . the figures when discussing the asylum claims. the uk figures when discussing the asylum claims . the uk statistics asylum claims. the uk statistics has written to the government saying numbers used by rishi sunak do not reflect official stats . they also say it's wrong stats. they also say it's wrong to claim that the conservatives have half the number of people waiting their asylum application to be processed . in fact, the to be processed. in fact, the backlog they has increased by 150,000 since the tories took office . bus drivers in the west office. bus drivers in the west midlands have ended their indefinite strike after accepting a pay offer. members of unite , employed by national of unite, employed by national express in the west midlands began their walkout monday. the offer accepted by more than 3100 drivers includes one year 16.2%

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reluctant to defrock abusive priests . two teenage boys have priests. two teenage boys have been charged with murder of a 16 year old who was stabbed to death in northampton. rowan shand, known as fred , died shand, known as fred, died following the attack on wednesday afternoon. the 40 and 16 year old boys who can't be named legal reasons appeared before northampton magistrates court this morning . they've been court this morning. they've been remanded in custody . and mayor remanded in custody. and mayor of greater manchester has been ordered to pay a speeding fine . ordered to pay a speeding fine. almost £2,000 after being caught 38 miles per hour over the speed limit, according to the manchester evening news. andy burnham says he became distracted and had idea that a section of the m60 , t2 speed section of the m60, t2 speed limit had been reduced . he was limit had been reduced. he was reportedly driving eight miles an hour in a 40 zone. this is gb news we'll bring you more as it so let's get back to now .

so let's get back to now. good afternoon. it's just coming up to 6 minutes after 5:00. this is good use on tv online and on digital radio for the next hour. me and my panel will be taking on some of the big topics, hitting the headlines right. this all about opinion. this show is all about opinion. it's mine. it's s and of it's yours. we'll be debating. discussing at times we will disagree, but no one be disagree, but no one will be cancelled. joining today is broadcaster and columnist lizzie cundy and also broadcast and political commentator sam dowler. come , my dowler. still to come, my difficult conversation i'll be joined by very special guest joined by a very special guest and imagine being adopted aged just six months to only find your birth mother years later and then to discover that she has just six months left to live. olympic medallist jamie voltz will be joining me to tell his story. and with the great british this hour, i'm asking, is customer fit to be prime is the customer fit to be prime minister starmer has minister sir keir starmer has pledged crimes against pledged to tackle crimes against women all levels , violence

women at all levels, violence within decade of them taking within a decade of them taking helm. despite unable helm. now, that's despite unable to define a woman on a number of occasions . meanwhile, he also occasions. meanwhile, he also plans to reverse the chancellor's lifetime lifetime pension allowance . is this just pension allowance. is this just a raid on the middle class? is he really fit to take the top spot? even with your thoughts gbviews@gbnews.uk or tweet me at . gb news. so it's time for this week's difficult conversation . week's difficult conversation. and today, a former welsh sprinter, jamie bolt, will be joining me to discuss the tragic moment that he met his birth mother during his successful career. jamie won number of medals on the world stage, including a silver one at the 1996 olympics representing great britain in the four by 400 metre relay and hero. james his career was centred around staying mentally strong, but his strength best. it was tested when met his birth mother for the first time. the 49 year old

was put up for adoption as a baby and met the then six year old of haiti later on in his life . he was excited to find out life. he was excited to find out she wanted to meet him, but and discovered she only had months to live as she had terminal cancer. to live as she had terminal cancer . jamie story was cancer. jamie story was documented in a television programme entitled looking for my birth mum . it won a bafta my birth mum. it won a bafta award back in 2015. i am delighted to say that the former great british sprinter bolt . great british sprinter bolt. jamie, thank you very much . jamie, thank you very much. thank you so much for joining jamie, thank you very much. thank you so much forjoining me to talk to me about your sort of story then. so it's six months. you were adopted with talks about your life with your adoptive parents. how soon was it that you realised that you were. that that is . and what had were. that that is. and what had happened to you? yes. so yeah, i was six months when i was adopted and got moved down from because everyone thinks i'm from wales originally, but i lived in nottingham and raised in south wales with my and dad marilyn and alan from six months old and

they looked after me ever since, you know, if it wasn't for my mum and dad raised me, then i don't think i would have an olympic medal to this day, you know. mm. now of course you are, you an athlete? athletes are always athletes forever. what was the thing that inspired you to go in that direction for your career? yeah i think for me, you know it was one of those things where, you know, was very fast. in school, i was of these kids who was always good sport and it was my headmaster, mr. atkins, which noticed i had a talent. and he advised me to go down to my local running club, of which i did. my mum and dad took down and pretty much the rest is history that many years . as history in that many years. as you've said earlier on, i managed to get one of these which is my olympic which which is my olympic medal which was cool . you know at the was pretty cool. you know at the time , you know, it's nothing time, you know, it's nothing like getting one of these and yeah, a special moment in my life is massive. it's like almost size your head that almost the size your head that medal, something that medal, but it's something that again medal again he's got the medal up let's a look at the again

let's have a look at the again that's it because when they wear them they look they don't look. so it's camera. so yeah, maybe it's the camera. it a coin. yeah, it looks it's like a coin. yeah, it's pretty , it's a pretty cool it's pretty, it's a pretty cool medal. yeah. mm so talk to me about when did you realise that you were adopted then i presume your parents would have you, that adopted a very that you were adopted for a very and never. you my, my mum and dad who raised me both white and you know i'm obviously mixed race and my mum is a retired schoolteacher now but she used to tell bedtime about me being adopted . so by the time i really adopted. so by the time i really understood it i knew that i was adopted from day. but it's not like i got to. and suddenly she said by way, you're adopted. i from such a young age and the way my mum did it was just perfectly really. and how did you go about finding your birth mother and how did you eventually find a job well, that was a bit the story itself. you know, i was in my early forties and i've got two children myself. in fact, i'm a granda

now and when . i you get to now and when. i you get to a certain age in your life and, you think you're not going to be around forever. and i thought to myself, well, just want know a myself, well, i just want know a little bit of history about where come from and it was a lady called connie of an lady called connie fisher of an angel lady called connie fisher of an angel. did the show andrew angel. did the show with andrew lloyd webber many years ago. and she's a producer of the company and she mean who up in the chat and she mean who up in the chat and she mean who up in the chat and she said would you ever look to know, do you ever want to find your mum? and i said, of course i'd love to, just because i want to know a little bit more about me. and she said, well, should we see if we can make it happen the next thing you happen in the next thing you know, doing a documentary. know, i'm doing a documentary. i absolutely loved it. i think it was semi which was really special me be able to do special for me to be able to do so did find mother so how did find your mother then. mean , you know what then. i mean, you know what happened. you well well happened. well, you well well based it well basically you know i did the right thing in the tv show you ever get to watch it which is pretty good it was a

caseworker called gemma which after the case. so i went through the specialist channels , you know, and that's very important to. sure. if anyone's going to look for their mother or father, you do it through the correct procedures. you know, you can facebook and you can on facebook and instagram now and, like instagram now and, things like that, have done by that, which people have done by advised to do that . advised people not to do that. so we went down the correct channels, went through the adoption . and adoption services. and literally, think weeks later literally, i think weeks later they managed to find my birth mother . theresa they managed to find my birth mother. theresa and they managed to find my birth mother . theresa and wow. they managed to find my birth mother. theresa and wow. you know, i didn't that was going to happen. it was a very special moment in my life, you know , my moment in my life, you know, my olympic medal was quite nerve wracking. but when you when you're in your forties and you get to meet your the first get to meet your for the first time your life, you imagine time in your life, you imagine how that right ? so how amazing that is, right? so yeah, very, very special moments. and she was behind this door and i opened the door , door and i opened the door, didn't want the tv cameras that and she was behind this door and this this lady who is my mother and i was like, what do you say when you first see your mum for the first you know, what

the first time? you know, what did she say i gave it this big? well gave it this hug. and well gave it this big hug. and she jamie and well nobody she said, jamie and well nobody really realises my, my, my, oh, my baby sister certificate is james bowles. but my birth mother named me jamie so for her call me by my name which everyone calls me today was quite an emotional moment. everyone calls me today was quite an emotional moment . and quite an emotional moment. and we both had tears and it was yeah quite, quite, quite just amazing. really, really special moment in my life. but then you discovered the news that she only had six months to live. yeah and yeah. that was tragic, you know when you get told that you're just about to meet your mother and she's got six months to live. it's, you know, it's obviously a horrible situation but that the nice part about it if i can keep a sunny side of it she lives for another two years so why ended up seeing each other for quite a long time? i used to go down to devon and see

her. she loved forever, so i always bring fox everywhere across age and yeah, we some really magical moments together i think. do you think it's because of you? because she got to meet you, that she's kind of something happened ? because something happened? because sometimes you know that , it's sometimes you know that, it's something your biology, your body does do you think that body does. do you think that somehow because she finally met somebody , son, something somebody, son, something she'd been longing for? because as a mother, i know that if i couldn't my or if couldn't find my kids or if i gave my kids away, whatever reason, it would be out of that. if i find the exact thing she said early on, you said that very early on, you know, we the first half hour of us talking was only 18 when she had me. you know, she was really young. and she said to me, i couldn't have looked after you, just the right situation. so i had give you away. and i'm had to give you away. and i'm glad you've had a great glad that you've had a great life. know, happened in life. you know, that happened in the minutes of us the first 20 minutes of us meeting and, you know, i she said to me quite regularly, you know, you're making want know, you're you're making want to and, know, when to live. and, you know, when i back that, i think yes. you

back on that, i think yes. you know, it's something she always used to say to that. we always you know, she she always thought about me and so for us to have that opportunity to be together for two years was magical. that's amazing. and did do you have any did you find whether had any brothers or sisters as well from your mother or were you yeah i've got a half you there? yeah i've got a half sister called jayla, who's ten years younger than me, which is it's kind of mad because her name is and i named not knowing her name, i named my son j. so like, wow, little similarity in bits involved. so yeah , i've got bits involved. so yeah, i've got a half sister out there and it was lovely to meet her as well. now i have a connection with her too. so what about your dad then? did find out who your dad was and did you get meet him. i we did a documentary number two and we didn't get to meet him. we had to name and i went up to nottingham try and do all this research and somebody did come forward and we were like, wow, i'm going to meet my dad as

well. which would have been like a moment. he is from jamaica and i think know having one of these, like i said, an olympic medal, i think, you know, all the all the medallists from jamaica, right. so i think if i did manage to find him, i think he have been proud man. he would have been a proud man. but unfortunately, you know, it didn't happen. but the thing didn't happen. but the one thing which in the second which i did say in the second documentary, the people who raised me, marilyn and alan, they my parents, you can have you know, there's lots of movies and five is saving the world but it takes special to be a parent and that's where marilyn and alan really come into it so i wouldn't trade people who've raised me you know for anything in the world because special people and are they still with us now as well so there's still. yes, yeah. my mum's 86. oh, my dad 82. and they still around . dad 82. and they still around. go up there for sunday lunch, you know, we still got this great relationship and every knew everyone who my mum and dad. there's a photograph in

there everyone who knows my mum and dad they are just magical and dad they are just magical andifs and dad they are just magical and it's didn't just adopt and it's they didn't just adopt me, they adopted somebody else which is my sister in the family they've got to children as well it's for the best i'm the little and the little baby of the family and yeah, i'm the one who was the last one in the house. so. but it's magical upbringing. so. but it's magical upbringing. so your mum your mother is no longer with us she did you, didn't she gave both of you away then because you said there's your blood brothers sister. yes so, so basic . lily theresa, my so, so basic. lily theresa, my birth mother gave me away, but she didn't give jane away because ten years later, 15 years later, you know , she was years later, you know, she was more established , married, a guy more established, married, a guy called des . and they had a great called des. and they had a great relationship right through to the end. so it was really nice to see that my mother, you know, eventually a family network, which was which really made me smile. yeah, that's and it's good to see and it's lovely that

you got to spend time with her. she got know you as well because would have been so tragic if you you know if she hadn't found because i don't think i mean i don't i don't think don't know but i don't think have probably managed the last two obviously know two years so you obviously know she that as so what's for she said that as so what's for you are you up to now? you now what are you up to now? what are doing with what are you doing with yourself? so i do a lot of work for charity. i've got a company corporate aid which fund corporate aid which does fund raising around the raising charities all around the uk and around world actually uk and around the world actually . so i'm uk and around the world actually .so i'm raising uk and around the world actually . so i'm raising quite a lot of .so i'm raising quite a lot of money through different money through all different causes. money through all different causes . you know, it's something causes. you know, it's something for me , you know, being for me, you know, by being adopted i've always had that thing about i want to give back. so when all these so when i do all these fundraising up and down the country raise millions of country and raise millions of pounds, great about it. pounds, i feel great about it. so it's something which is so yeah, it's something which is really to my heart give really close to my heart to give back. it, jamie? thank back. what is it, jamie? thank you so much sharing your you so much for sharing your story. it a lovely story. i'm so glad it kind of it has a happy energy to it as well. we like to hear post, thank you so hear jamie post, thank you so much. you? that much. thank you. don't you? that is, jamie bell. she's is, of course, jamie bell. she's

a british sprinter . well, a former british sprinter. well, coming it is the great coming up, it is the great debate this hour. and i'm asking you to, keir starmer fit to be prime. leader plans prime. the labour leader plans to reverse the chancellor's lifetime pension allowance that could negatively impact middle class. is he really fit to take the top spot seeing as he couldn't even say what woman is? stay with me .

it's 22 minutes after 5:00. this is on tv online and, on digital radio. we are the people's channel. i'm diana quinn. it's time for the great british debate this out. i'm asking issac, is starmer fit to be minister? earlier this week , sir minister? earlier this week, sir keir set out five missions the government tackling crime tops the list. as in starmer's words, is unfinished business and it's in his life's work to deliver

justice. interestingly, sir keir has vowed to halve violence against women and girls particular within a decade which is some comes as somewhat of a surprise considering that a little while ago he couldn't define what a woman is. i just mind the rise of the right honourable gentleman struggled to define what a woman was when he came . he could even make he he came. he could even make he couldn't make up mind on that point. so a woman can have a penis that can not. i don't think can conduct this debate with you know so i've got this. did you. no, no, no. it'sjust. did you. no, no, no. it's just. no, no, no. i just. is it trans to say only have a cervix? well it is something that shouldn't be said . it is something that shouldn't be said. right. it is something that shouldn't be said . right. another of the be said. right. another of the labour party was to scrap the lifetime pensions allowance for the. if they come to power . but the. if they come to power. but the. if they come to power. but the party's flirtation with wealth taxes will essentially

punish middle class of being successful . the hardworking successful. the hardworking people of this country and struggling as it is. and it seems that labour only want to finish cancer. keir finish them off. so cancer. keir starmer really women if he struggles to define what a woman is and is they be realistic in its call to scrap pension tax breaks so for the great british debate so i'm asking sir keir starmer fit be prime. well starmer fit to be prime. well i'm now by peter edwards, i'm joined now by peter edwards, former labour editor of the labour list. peter edwards , labour list. peter edwards, right. let's have a quick chat then. what do you think any of you out labour going to deliver on its plan to tackle violence. well, first of all, labour's not complacent. in, head complacent. it's head in, head in polls. it's still in the polls. it's still fighting every fighting for every vote. but i think keir starmer's gives me a lot comfort and. goes from lot of comfort and. he goes from the to head crown the state school to head crown prosecution service and during that conviction rate that time the conviction rate for sexual offences rose under his leadership. so it gives me a lot of confidence. okay well, i want to bring in dr. mccabe us on i want hear what on because i want to hear what he to say as well, because i think a of people like to think a lot of people like to talk a good game and i think

maybe them. but i'd like maybe one is them. but i'd like to hear what a rookie the has to say. rookie thank you very he's from the socialist policy. he's a analyst. a socialist policy analyst. rookie this? rookie what's your view on this? keir do you think that keir starmer do you think that he's. well, i think that he's. is fit. well, i think that these proposals are those to drive down crime . these are good drive down crime. these are good proposals nana in terms of halving crime toward women and girls that he's talked about having domestic abuse specialists in place . and he's specialists in place. and he's also talked about more when comes to violence towards women and girls. he's also talked about having dedicated schools specifically for rape related offences. but i agree with your point, if you're going to have produced this very robust proposals when it comes to combating crime against women and girls he has to provide what you would call because it would be a commonsense definition of what we woman is and you can see those into view clips that he

gets himself a bit of a muddle. so i think in order to provide a convincing spirit you could say when it comes to selling those policies he needs to get the bread and butter right when it comes to defining what a woman is. what would you to that piece of it because you know you watch clip. i don't understand what came out the problem that came out the problem with that i mean to ask you then mean i'm going to ask you then peter does woman have a peter does the woman have a penis? think starmer did penis? i think keir starmer did hesitate a bit his answers penis? i think keir starmer did hesiclearly)it his answers penis? i think keir starmer did hesi clearly was his answers penis? i think keir starmer did hesi clearly was uncomfortable and clearly was uncomfortable moment, think if you look at moment, but think if you look at the recent rally in scotland, the recent rally in scotland, the jailing of rapist, my the jailing of the rapist, my own housemate who was initially slated to be put in a female , slated to be put in a female, then nicola sturgeon reversed over he gave much clearer over that he gave much clearer answers, much more succinct answers, much more succinct answers, think he answers, because i think he realises that and public want it. definition basically . well, it. definition basically. well, that's quite obvious. but you haven't the question, do you? does woman a penis? i don't does the woman a penis? i don't want to get into a kind of no body thought, no argument, but i mean look what we're doing a keir starmer i mean, i didn't think it was a question at

think it was a big question at all. mr. and think it's not a problem. from what i've heard it is woman have penis. people is a woman have penis. people with a couple they just say no you know it's got a couple of feet. look on. does a woman ever fainted . we're like we all know fainted. we're like we all know the difference female and female which is . well i wouldn't have which is. well i wouldn't have any in ireland, sir. but you have. any in ireland, sir. but you have . let me give the answer. oh have. let me give the answer. oh okay. so i would say it's always important to speak about trans people if . they can say, and if people if. they can say, and if you into a shopping of you get into a shopping list of body, we maybe be don't always do. think that people do. so i don't think that people have made anatomy should be in a female prison. we all know there are some people still have male anatomy that self—identify as female. pre—op so it clearly female. a pre—op so it clearly depends on the context. well, i'm a woman . don't have a penis. i'm a woman. don't have a penis. okay, there's a woman of a penis . no. for me obviously a definition of a woman. more perspective in the common sense position is that a woman is an aduu position is that a woman is an adult biology , female human

adult biology, female human being . i adult biology, female human being. i think that adult biology, female human being . i think that that adult biology, female human being. i think that that is he should be saying just keep it and be straightforward . and i do and be straightforward. and i do agree with peter . i and be straightforward. and i do agree with peter. i think that when it came to the oil bryson case up in scotland, i sir keir starmer is more robust and he was clearer in terms of the position that you strike. we've seen the case bobby cardassian in the republic ireland where leo varadkar was very clear that the biological should not be placed in women's prisons. and i think extending there should be places in rape crisis centres , places in rape crisis centres, domestic violence sanctuaries . i domestic violence sanctuaries. i think we have a big debate about the integrity of women's sport. i think it's just very clear for me, a woman is an adult biologically female human being. see as well when i asked the question as to whether he's fit to be prime minister. women watching will be putting their in their head and saying that if we are going to live in a land non—reality, then how can we trust , non—reality, then how can we trust, somebody who's living in

that reality ? it is quite simple that reality? it is quite simple to me and quite offensive to me as woman that people don't as a woman that people don't seem to be able to acknowledge that a woman doesn't have a penis and as you said it exactly as you describe it, a cave that is a biological female and biological females don't have penises. so that and i that i'm just concerned that that will be sir keir starmer's achilles because a lot of women will be thinking that that that is not on. okay well, let's move on from that. and peter in your view, then, what about the protection starmer protection that keir starmer talks women that he talks about for women that he can't i mean, do you can't define? i mean, do you think that he's actually to protect it because he's come out with this, he's going to cut crime half. mean, that crime by half. i mean, is that realistic? well, think you realistic? well, i think you need to have targets if you're aiming to run the country where there years, every ten there are five years, every ten years is perfectly reasonable. but of previous but i think the kind of previous experience underlines some of the that politicians the challenges that politicians face i keep face around. this because i keep the definition like a woman the definition of like a woman was one i think most of the country and i would agree with. but did other but like you did and other viewers if

viewers have done it as well. if you off and start you cut people off and start chuckling for answers, chuckling for the answers, then you me? i wasn't i you talking about me? i wasn't i was just laughing because you wouldn't answer question. wouldn't answer the question. i'm the i'm not chuckling between the answers. laughing because answers. i was laughing because i'm and i know a woman i'm a woman and i know a woman doesn't have a penis. so it's almost believe this has almost i can't believe this has been issue the been such an issue for the labour party because my labour party admit. because my point is that that's why i'm asking whether he's fit because women watching this women will be watching this thinking. how can protect thinking. how can he protect my space understand space if you can't understand that that is that the reason why that is there a space is because the there is a space is because the danger that pose women and danger that men pose women and girls, that biological girls, and that is biological men, a trump will. men, whether it be a trump will. no, woman. well first of all, no, no woman. well first of all, you keep an eye or you'll accept the definition an adult human the definition of an adult human female. i'm sure keir starmer does and second, as i does as well. and second, as i said the start, at his said at the start, look at his when ran the crown when he ran the crown prosecution service, the conviction rate for sexual offences rose. so that should provide because. provide reassurance because. he's a promise he's not offering a mere promise or something or target. he's done something in. already many in. this area already many haven't. this disc is haven't. and this disc is written out. i don't mean i think so. i know you want to kind of go on to the next topic but he head of the crown

prosecution service that led to a sex offences a more dangerous sex offences offenders jailed he offenders being jailed. he has a record is a way the record is in a way the politicians the time talk politicians all the time talk about things no about things i have no experience of and david cameron is classic example has is a classic example he has experienced subject matter. experienced this subject matter. he . he still gets he succeeded. he still gets criticised well some criticised for it. well some people who say that he was in charge jemmy was . charge when jemmy savile was. but but that's all that's but but. but that's all that's asking , because he but but. but that's all that's asking, because he had no involvement in that case. that's what we understand that. but you just. so why raise now because you to him as of you referred to him as head of the prosecution service to refer to that happened to something that happened whilst. was head under his whilst. he was head under his watch, no in. yeah, watch, but he had no in. yeah, but still he's. you can't but still he's. well, you can't just all responsibility just disband all responsibility of if you of things that, even if you didn't direct connection. didn't have direct connection. if bad. sometimes if something bad. sometimes the person gets in person at the top gets in trouble it. i'm very, very trouble for it. i'm very, very busy. i've got to ask you about the pension side of things. do you think keep that this is you think ever keep that this is a slight on middle class is a slight on the middle class is because whole if because the whole idea that if you have under a million that you have under a million that you capital gains what you know the capital gains what do your thoughts. do you think what your thoughts. i that that argument will i think that that argument will be stronger in a different economic think

economic context. i think that in middle of cost of in the middle of the cost of living i think the living crisis, i think the reality there's many reality is i think there's many people had traditionally seen themselves as middle class are really pinch. we really feeling the pinch. we just saw the recent figures for some commentators were some some commentators were quite over inflation quite optimistic over inflation potentially decreasing . it's up potentially decreasing. it's up again and that's mainly driven by so i'd be a bit by inflation. so i'd be a bit i wouldn't say that this is that labour's positioning on this is anti aspiration . i think they anti aspiration. i think they recognise that we're in a very different economic context where many people are feeling the pinch . so i think maybe , you pinch. so i think maybe, you know, in a different era, perhaps could have been presented as an aspiration but i think if the conservatives go down that road think they'd down that road i think they'd look more out such isn't look even more out such isn't it. and finally, very briefly, to peter, same question with regard whole idea of the regard to the whole idea of the fact of the fact that it's a grab of the middle class is very positive, about 30 seconds now. it's about thousand effective. the thousand doctors effective. the tories with tories are proceeding with a multi pound giveaway and multi billion pound giveaway and it's not necessary. and by it's just not necessary. and by the way, do you see an interest? quite right. it's not that labour labour labour would scrap, it is labour would with the

would not go ahead. with the changes by jeremy changes announced by jeremy hunt. quite hunt. there's already quite generous to 1.08 generous allowance up to 1.08 billion. if they wouldn't billion. well if they wouldn't go along with the changes are announced they would announced that they would be scrapping . hear scrapping effectively. i hear what say, edwards, you what you say, peter edwards, you so also rookie. that's so much. and also rookie. that's lovely to talk to you . this is lovely to talk to you. this is dvds tv online and on dvds on tv online and on digital. all right. stay tuned, we've got so much more the way we'll be going to our great british debates in just a moment. but first, is keir starmer fit be prime minister? the thoughts of my panel and columnist lizzie cundy support and political commentator sam dowler. but first, let's get your latest news headlines headlines. 5:33. andre had a son in, the gb newsroom, the statistics watchdog says the prime minister incorrect figures when discussing office action on tackling the asylum claims backlog . uk statistics authority backlog. uk statistics authority has to the government saying numbers used by rishi sunak do

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it's 39 minutes after 5:00. this is gb views. we are the people channel. don't forget as well download the gb news app. you can check out all the programmes here on the channel on akua. now it's for great british it's for our great british debate hour and i'm asking, debate this hour and i'm asking, is the customer fit to be prime minister? earlier this week, sir keir starmer set five keir starmer set out five missions to. missions for his government to. tackling the list. tackling crime topped the list. starmer's own words is business andifs starmer's own words is business and it's in his life's work to deliver justice. interestingly, starmer has voted to halve violence against women and girls in particular within a decade. and it as programme is and it comes as programme is considering. ago he considering. not so long ago he couldn't define what a couldn't even define what a woman . i mind the rise woman is. i just mind the rise of right. almost everyone of the right. almost everyone struggled what a woman was struggled to what a woman was like when he came . he could even like when he came. he could even be. he couldn't make up his mind on that point. so a woman can

have a penis that cannot . i have a penis that cannot. i don't think we can conduct this debate with , you know, so i get debate with, you know, so i get it. you know, i don't know. it's just a no, no, no. i just. is it trans phobic to say only have a cervix ? well, it is something cervix? well, it is something that shouldn't be said . i mean that shouldn't be said. i mean well, another cornerstone of the party was to scrap the lifetime allowance for the wealthy if they come to . but the party's they come to. but the party's flirtation with wealth, taxes will essentially punish the middle for being successful. so for the great british debate this i'm asking the keir starmer fit minister let's fit to be prime minister let's see my panel make of that. see what my panel make of that. i'm columnist and i'm joined columnist and broadcaster the broadcaster lizzie cundy, the broadcaster lizzie cundy, the broadcast on political commentators i mean commentators down to now. i mean , we've used the word penis repeatedly and listen and some people might be offended. but bearin people might be offended. but bear in mind, this is not i'm not using any special because it is important in my to answer whether these these politicians

are able to live in the in the real world. and i question whether they can if they can't be , the answer that be honest, the answer to that question. lizzie. yeah and that's whole thing with keir that's the whole thing with keir starmer. being honest starmer. he isn't being honest and hey, why can't you say ? what and hey, why can't you say? what woman is what is what is wrong with him? he's trying to please everyone and he offends everyone . i think he's a disgrace and he is the last person on this earth. for that reason i want as our leader. the country gets government deserves, but really is that what we're going to get a man that can't even say what a woman is? i mean, sam, don't stick for him, which i know you're going to is going and one was tricked because you don't want woman is and the man is married with but he's trying to please and that's please everyone and that's a fault his look that's the fault of his look that's the whole point it was . whole point the way it was. these were lines of question that were going on the time that were going on at the time these interviews that these interviews happened that you just on screen that they were bumper press trying drag were bumper press trying to drag politicians in to china. let me finish and he's on the finish

line. okay. they're trying to drag people into it, into any kind of flight. and obviously, you know, i've been on your show before talked about, you before and talked about, you know like i think know with a with like i think i think a trans man can have a cervix, something can trans women can a penis. i mean, women can have a penis. i mean, but this is all semantics, really, because it affects such a tiny population. but a little tiny population. but i know, been literally know, i know i've been literally like the last time i talked about this on, i was called a misogynist, a rape apologist on twitter, etc. like, well, that's the reason. come on, those sorts of things. this the it's just too it's the end the end of the day like is it to do with this is to do with safeguard being vulnerable trans women because obviously , like you've said. but obviously, like you've said. but can i just come on it's predatory the problem. okay. can i just i'm predatory the problem. okay. can ijust i'm going predatory the problem. okay. can i just i'm going to predatory the problem. okay. can ijust i'm going to i want to i just i'm going to i want to just on something first of all, the reason why is a segregation in the sexes certain is because the that male males the biological that male males have a trans woman is still a man biologically. now you can't argue that that is the biological reality . therefore,

biological reality. therefore, a trans man , trans woman is in the trans man, trans woman is in the same category as a man. well, there is no. in terms of the strength of the he may have the testosterone or whatever it is, but in reality, in biological sciences, he's biologically a man is why the sexes are man that is why the sexes are separated for that reason. so i don't buy a trans woman is more vulnerable than a woman because a trans woman is a biological man. if i'm in the toilets right. there's a trans woman right. and there's a trans woman who who is making me feel uncomfortable and i was to say anything wouldn't because you anything i wouldn't because you know why you're i'm know why you're polite? i'm polite, because a, b, but polite, but because a, b, but b , because i'd be worried that they might be on that. so i intimidate . yes, i am. whether intimidate. yes, i am. whether they will or they won't is not they will or they won't is not the point. i am intimate did. i am the weakest and i am human. and as a woman, i'm sick of being silenced and intimate, dated for speaking about women need to be together . no, of need to be together. no, of course. and i agree with you. it's so slippery . course. and i agree with you. it's so slippery. some course. and i agree with you. it's so slippery . some response. it's so slippery. some response. i'm 100% a it's so slippery. some response. i'm100% a feminist. i like. you know, i have by i've you know, i

have a mother two sisters two nieces. i'm all women all the time. of course , i have been my time. of course, i have been my in my entire life . and the in my entire life. and the reason i say if such a small amount of the population is because they let you say, my sister says the same thing as you do. and ultimately it is, but it's but it's not going to like it's such a it's a situation. it hasn't happened you and it hasn't happened to her and it isn't this isn't some sort of this isn't some sort of, you know, massive on something that hasn't happened to anybody. these these that's these aren't these all that's true not true. what it is true that's not true. what it is that and i don't say that i'm and i don't say anything and along with it. anything and i go along with it. but what i'm concerned about is that me along with may that me going along with it may make i'm not telling make maybe that i'm not telling truth feelings that truth about the feelings that i'm with you about this and the feelings having about is feelings i'm having about it is first all, we go in this first of all, if we go in this direction, it is it is at the detriment of women women and the politics advantage for men doesn't change just because they decide that they're a woman. so the weaker and more vulnerable , the weaker and more vulnerable, both sex are still women . and both sex are still women. and i'm sick and tired of the

narrative that says that. what concerns is what to nicola concerns me is what to nicola sturgeon because gender reform bill proved be a ridiculous bill was proved be a ridiculous concept because of all the press and thank goodness that happened because a way needed to so because in a way it needed to so we could actually see the reality of it. i'm concerned that dealing with a minister that i'm dealing with a minister who would potentially allow that to happen, won't get more to happen, but i won't get more of by the way, more of it. we've looked at our books changed the language being changed. you know, starmer is our know, if keir starmer is our leader, going to get leader, we're going to get that's issue me because that's a big issue me because again see it's i see that again i see that it's i see that it's a big issue but my point is that these are these aren't these huge issues that i these aren't huge issues that i actually face people even know people question people about people question people about people like that's not fair kids don't have to defend disappear it's coming. but no , sir. don't have to defend disappear it's coming. but no , sin the it's coming. but no, sin the question of what a woman is, he looks like this. well, if is all down to, you know, political posturing from the from the tories. i mean , if this becomes

tories. i mean, if this becomes something that they will that they campaign on next, i think that that was the sort of nicola sturgeon. yeah in one fell swoop. it brought down. and i think that whilst the labour and the conservative party policies are very, very similar. so if i'm going to look at minutia, i'm going to look at minutia, i'm going to look at the things that i'm concerned about and is concerning me that we are heading into hurtling into this direction with no real checks and balances and it feels like there's somebody there ready to enable it to face down for the best. it's all things like the gender recognition stuff that's all that's been passed in like maybe like 14 other countries, like there's about 400 million to stop, 400 million people who are living under that already. nothing has happened. and nothing and nothing nothing has changed in this country since the 2010. act like people. this is not your hasn't changed y'know you know yeah my life has humanise women i think it's i think it's humanising i think

it's a work and it's not demonising anybody being a reality as a woman saying that this is not working for me and nobody seems to be, well, this show is nothing without you and your views. let's welcome some of british this of our great british voices this is opportunity be the is your opportunity to be on the show and tell what you think about the topics by discussing today. i've got four great british voices. let's start with mike in oxfordshire. mike donovan in oxfordshire. hello, see you. hello, mike. nice see you. now, do think keir starmer is do you think sir keir starmer is fit become next prime fit to become the next prime minister? to the minister? well, that's up to the electorate to decide not. but the is that he's a the reality is that he's a lawyer. you probably have ten different definitions for everything . but i think what the everything. but i think what the what people are trying to say is that the process is he doesn't come across particularly well there fundamental issues on law and order that isn't never been tested in this country following . the 2008 financial crisis now we now have lying problem in the uk and then and america with the with a banking i mean we've only

just the bits of it and want to thank everybody not 10% the transgender how many there are and that's true actually yes highly sympathetic to all women who do who feel under because we spend disproportionate amount of rather idiotic time talking about these issues when there are some of them out there believe but please in the uk we have a major issue with the three party system and the bar, but we can't now change that which we'd love. but i'll go to alimony, kneeling grimsby what's your stance on it often and not on afternoon folks. my is i think stop starmer is a man of absolutely standing whatsoever everything he's done as a politician has been for the moment he appears to me to be a man who is really an appeaser and also quite happy to switch and also quite happy to switch and change his perspective from

one thing to the other as the wind blows , to be quite honest, wind blows, to be quite honest, as his stance and trying to promote his crime bill and his stance on women , he wrote an stance on women, he wrote an article in, the times, i think it was last week, where he was quite strong about, but what he actually said which gave the game away was he said or you can introduce these policies until you the people along with you so that means that he doesn't his stance hasn't changed all has he yet come up with a plan as hide a calm people and the rubbish that they keep spewing from the labour party well end all of our time. no got to move on. but you said in all honesty, very at all honesty. i mean he got into the labour party on the back of jeremy cobham, saying he would follow corbyn's policies . he follow corbyn's policies. he immediately ditched those straight away. he's now standing up for the union jack and

telling us that he's a great british model. i don't anything that the man says. well, i don't believe any of them is going to cast wyn jones in snowdonia gareth bath. yeah listen, i don't trust any politics, to be honest with you. and they don't answer questions. he wears a the sort that every different day. so it suits the audience and it's a joke we need to change in our political system . you know, our political system. you know, we can see these people lying and not answering questions that that asked that it's not right. you know, i'm farmer so i know the difference between , male and the difference between, male and female. and if we don't get it right, we don't have our livestock. we don't have a business. so, you know, it's simple and not seeking simple and i'm not seeking anything anybody anything away from anybody that's transgender or anything, but know, women need but, you know, women need a voice. i've got a wife , i've got voice. i've got a wife, i've got a daughter, and they need a voice. they need to be safe. so you know, it's not a talking shop. you know, it's not a talking shop . we need to protect the shop. we need to protect the females. and you said earlier now, you know, males are

strongest the species is true strongest of the species is true like in everything else . so the like in everything else. so the females need to be protected. and, you know, we don't want people from a male gene in female prisons. and we've seen what's happened to nicola sturgeon and all these people. let's start addressing things. let's start addressing things. let's start addressing things. let's start answering , you know, let's start answering, you know, people's questions when they ask straight, not who people and giving answers that mean nothing we need straight politicians . we we need straight politicians. we need a new political . i really need a new political. i really think look what's happened out in the netherlands the farmers out there are taking control . out there are taking control. and you never know this this could be the next parliament. now to the campaign good that lovely out there. but it is nothing. take it from fun. what do you i'd like to hear any labour politician define a woman . they all have this same inability to describe a woman . inability to describe a woman. they cannot say a woman cannot have a penis . they cannot say a woman cannot have a penis. it's anathema to.

and the other thing is having spoken friends with a number of male to female troop male female trans women , they do not see trans women, they do not see themselves as women on the inside . there are still men on inside. there are still men on the inside. they only see themselves with women on the and they get very when people they pulled into this debate . so it pulled into this debate. so it takes a very strong person to do the transition and to make a mockery of it with this i'll basically look like a man with i'm a woman. yeah what is the very times i've got to thank my great british forces? david bomb down there. thank you very, mike mike donovan there in oxfordshire mcneilly and also gareth wyn jones, thank so gareth wyn jones, thank you so much for contribution. much for your contribution. really good talk to all really good to talk to you. all right. now for my right. it's now time for my quickfire quiz. it's the part of, the show where test my panel on some. the other on some. of the other stories hitting i'm hitting the headlines, i'm joined by columnist lizzie joined by and columnist lizzie chris skudder. your noise, please. got noise. please. i haven't got noise. there's buzzer. i make there's no buzzer. i make a noise. noise noise. okay. noise. noise wasn't noise. okay. and was almost honk

and sound some was almost honk all. right. that's great. yeah. careful with that. okay, careful with that. right. okay, good. let's that's the good. right. let's that's the boss's question. one detail. i'm which great british show is a snoop dog determined a back to back role on his eastenders b hollyoaks you'll see coronation long lazy candy thank you very much. i think is a eastenders he said do you think oh love they'll go against that he said corrie it is actually coronation. yeah. you're i asked snoop dogg. it's a huge fan of the soap and seasons self popping up the soap and seasons self popping up the bar in the rovers return. the rapper apparently loved the lines the reality of the soap was that the 81 season actually just cause and it was fabulous. yes question during his trip to poland, the prince wales paid an unofficial visit to lgbtq restaurant. well, the owners wounded , yes. all down owners wounded, yes. all down hog and how no , seriously, they hog and how no, seriously, they weren't, you know. correct they are smaller. correct is no prince of wales town palestine is. as he joined his team and ianed is. as he joined his team and invited rest from a £7.50 pulled pork sandwich in. well, i can do

that now, coach . also question that now, coach. also question three which you guys have been the best place to live is a wedding in berkshire b wadhurst in east sussex or c luton, long, long. so i'm down not alone? no with friends. anyone who lives in newton, i live quite near that. i don't live renting . i that. i don't live renting. i the answer is b totally wrong. but people will be not so happy with you. and what east sussex is the best place to live in the uk? apparently the judges for the sun said that the town offered pretty much everything needed for more than life in miniature question for king charles city. king charles is old land rover. discovery, charles city. king charles is old land rover . discovery, 27, old land rover. discovery, 27, was sold an auction suite. but how much? that itself, of course is on twins. yes this i would say 40,000 40,000 it's all down to 25,000. 5000, 12. i was involved in 2000 is he can't do that. yes over the past few days the vehicle received over 50

paid to the highest. so there you go. in the final hours. final question, what have england fans been mocking in italian up for? is it a peculiar dress be butchering god save the king or c falling over a performance. oh god please let it be falling over. i think it is falling over b but god save the king and fans been mocking italian singer deora for butchering god save the king ahead of the italy england game in an april statement saying i and blamed on technical hate. well, it's an on today's show i've been asking was johnson held in a kangaroo court and according to our twitter 74.6% of you say, yes, i've sent you say no, because a huge thank you to my panel of broadcast columnist lizzie cundy. lizzie, thank you so much. thank you. and commentator political and also commentator a political commentator sound out of the joining today and. of course. thank you to you and your company. tomorrow, i'll be

joined by the fabulous hamilton and danny kelly. whatever you do, join me at three. the other of three, be there. opi square . of three, be there. opi square. i'll see you tomorrow. enjoy. i'll see you tomorrow. enjoy. i'll leave you with the weather. hello the hello looking head through the rest weekend. it going to rest of weekend. it is going to turn little bit colder for turn a little bit colder for sunday will be some sunday and there will be some showery around. but it's showery rain around. but it's in the south where things are really going to turn quite wet and windy as we through and windy as we go through tonight because tonight and that's because of this low and its this area of low and its associated going to associated all this is going to push towards the uk and across southern parts as go through this and overnight. take this evening and overnight. take a look though through the a closer look though through the rest and can see rest saturday and you can see that showery rain northern that some showery rain northern parts of the uk in particular and there'll be wintry and there'll be some wintry mix over high ground here too but it's in the south where we have that windy i mentioned that wet and windy i mentioned earlier push its earlier that's going to push its way little bit way across. a little bit of uncertainty to how north uncertainty to how far north that rain is going to reach, but it could be pretty heavy, perhaps millimetres in perhaps up to 30 millimetres in some because of the some places because of the cloud, wind, the rain in the cloud, the wind, the rain in the south, temperatures here staying relatively north, relatively mild. further north, though, a clear picture, some frost and some icy frost here and perhaps some icy

patches wintry patches because some wintry showers first thing sunday showers first thing on sunday morning. through sunday morning, though, that cloudy though, we will see that cloudy weather southern parts. weather across southern parts. clearing away. so is going to clearing away. so it is going to turn drier, albeit fairly cloudy. even today for cloudy. cloudy even today for sure. for most places , some sure. for most places, some sunshine breaking out towards northern of northern ireland and also scotland. also across of scotland. in between any that are pushing down on that northerly and it's that flow means that northerly flow that means tomorrow to be tomorrow are going to be markedly compared to today as we go through the end of the day tomorrow for and many it is going to largely dry. the going to be largely dry. the cloud up somewhat. cloud break up somewhat. so we'll more skies as we we'll see more clear skies as we go through sunday into monday. and with that cold northerly wind, are to see wind, we are likely to see temperatures dropping quite low to particularly across the northern half of the uk. here there'll harsh frost there'll be a fairly harsh frost first on monday morning first thing on monday morning and out some icy and watch out for some icy patches too. if you're taking to the that's because wintry the roads. that's because wintry showers falling on frozen surfaces lead some surfaces could lead to some difficult conditions through monday it's monday itself, though. yes it's a chilly frosty start for many monday itself, though. yes it's a ciquite osty start for many monday itself, though. yes it's a ciquite aty start for many monday itself, though. yes it's a ciquite a brightt for many monday itself, though. yes it's a ciquite a bright one.many monday itself, though. yes it's a ciquite a bright one. lotsy monday itself, though. yes it's a ciquite a bright one. lots of but quite a bright one. lots of sunshine be had. it is likely sunshine to be had. it is likely to driest day of this to be the driest day of this week come. that's because things

going turn a bit more going to turn a bit more unsettled from onwards unsettled from tuesday onwards with windy weather with some wet and windy weather to temperatures should to come. but temperatures should creep little bit to see creep up a little bit to see later .