it's saturday nice and this is the saturday for if a brand new show on gb news. i'm darren grimes along with albie amankona dominic samuels emily carver and benjamin tonight i'll rubbishing this barmy plan not to prosecute climate extremists . albie i will climate extremists. albie i will be telling you why rishi sunak is going to win the conservatives a historic term, and i'll be telling you why. the treatment of posy parker in new zealand is disgusting and, misogynistic. and i'll tell why the french need to calm down and accept that they're going to have to work a little longer. and i'll tell you why we should.

more for the bbc , and i'll more for the bbc, and i'll definitely disagreeing with definitely be disagreeing with them that point. it's 8 pm. them on that point. it's 8 pm. and this is this is. a five. welcome to the saturday five. this is the best saturday night takeaway you could possibly order expect fiery debate spicy opinions and a huge topping of fun every week join albie, emily, benjamin and myself with a guest star. and tonight, it's none other than dominique samuels. the premise of the show is pretty simple each gets 60 seconds to outline their argument of a chosen topic and we all pile in with our provocative and often controversial opinions of we want to know your views as well. much more important than our own . get in touch by email and gb news .uk. well before we start

tearing seven shades out of each other , it's time for your other, it's time for your saturday night news with ray addison addison . thanks to all addison addison. thanks to all five of you. here's the latest from the gb newsroom, the statistics watchdog says the prime minister used incorrect figures when discussing the asylum claims. uk figures when discussing the asylum claims . uk statistics has asylum claims. uk statistics has written to the government saying numbers used by rishi sunak do not reflect official stats. it's wrong, they say, to claim that the conservatives half the number of people waiting for their asylum application to be processed when the backlog has increased by 150,000 since they took office . post office workers took office. post office workers have been offered a 9% pay rise following a series of strikes. members of the community and workers union who work at crown post offices have also been offered substantial lump sum payments of between two and £3,000. they'll also see an

increase in paternity pay . increase in paternity pay. they'll now be balloted on the deal with the unions saying it's the best that can be achieved . the best that can be achieved. two teenage boys have been charged with the murder of a 16 year old boy who was stabbed to in northampton shand, known as fred , died following the attack fred, died following the attack on wednesday afternoon. the 14 and 16 year olds who can't be named for reasons, appeared before northampton magistrates court this morning. they've been remanded in custody . well, the remanded in custody. well, the mayor of greater manchester has been fined almost £12 after being caught driving 38 miles an hour over the limit. in a statement , andy hour over the limit. in a statement, andy burnham said he had to review routes when he realised that his junction was closed. but he was, he says, not aware of any variable speed limit being in place. he reportedly driving at 78 miles an hour in a 40 zone. mayor says he was going too fast and accepts the court's decision . at

accepts the court's decision. at 23, people have been killed . a 23, people have been killed. a major tornado hit the us. state of mississippi . it's understood of mississippi. it's understood that dozens have been injured and at least four people are still missing after the twister swept through the state and on into alabama . the emergency into alabama. the emergency management agency says the storm has left a trail of damage. more than 100 miles long, residents have spoken of entire buildings left in rubble. cars turned over and trees uprooted by the get ourselves into the middle part of the house and we and we got in there and obviously it was coming right behind us because as soon we got in there, we heard a big boom and didn't hear anything else for a little while. we walked and then while. so we walked out and then just came out to about ten trees down in our yard . well, russia down in our yard. well, russia wants to station nuclear weapons in belarus . according to the in belarus. according to the country's state media. president putin says struck a deal to post—attack to call nuclear weapons within country which borders ukraine. he claims it's

not a violation of nuclear non—proliferation agreements , non—proliferation agreements, comparing it with the us stationing nuclear weapons on, the territory of its european allies. we're on tv online, on dab plus radio and of course tune to in is gb news back now to the . to the. saturday five. it's saturday night and you're with this saturday five. i'm darren grimes and let's crack on with tonight's first debate. our first victim tonight is going to be benjamin butterworth . and be benjamin butterworth. and tonight, benjamin and i can't believe i'm actually going to say this . most benjamin say this. most benjamin benjamin's going to try and tell us why we should pay more for the bbc. let's start clock. why we should pay more for the bbc. it's been announced that the

licence fee is to go probably from £159 up to £172 a year. but some cabinet ministers want a block that £13 increase. well, i say full than the bbc is a national institution and we should be as proud of as we are. her majesty the queen. it's trusted around the world. take for example, the bbc service. countries that are rising, being war torn in the farthest depths of earth . they trust the world of earth. they trust the world service. how much does it cost us £1.28. gary lineker has made a lot of headlines. he's on £1.35 million a year. but how much do we actually pay for bbc television .7 well, everything television? well, everything from match of the day, line of duty. £6.42. these are bargains. look at sky tv , that cheapest look at sky tv, that cheapest package costs £26 a month and the worst about that you have to fund kay burley with that amount. i say we'd be idiot to get rid of the bbc we'd be idiots to start defunding it and

letting it go derelict be even more stupid a decision than . but more stupid a decision than. but what are the panel think benjamin. i actually vehemently disagree with everything you've just said because the bbc is so fantastic. why can it not survive without the coercive control of threatening people with prison if they don't pay the licence fee? i mean, i think like any tax, you know, anything that you have to pay for if you're going to use the service, you're going to use the service, you know, if you try to get sky tv. i remember back in the day that you'd have sort of an untenable you and your house and various could maybe untenable you and your house and vari0lbit could maybe untenable you and your house and vari0l bit of could maybe untenable you and your house and vari0lbit of sky could maybe untenable you and your house and vari0l bit of sky withoutd maybe untenable you and your house and vari0l bit of sky without payinge get a bit of sky without paying for it. well that would be a crime because you're getting something, you're not paying for it. think, well, it. what you think, emily? well, i that there might be i think that there might be a compromise in the middle, because the reason why a channel like gb news exist is because people were sick, of people were sick, tired of what they political they perceived to be political bias. think it's pretty bias. and i think it's pretty true there was remember true that there was i remember the brexit time after time. the brexit vote time after time. bbc question time, one their bbc question time, one of their flagship programmes, was flagship news programmes, was constantly out of constantly having four out of the on the panel

the five people on the panel being and that being ardent remainers, and that was not of country . and was just not of the country. and it continues to be. so they're trying best to be a little bit more balanced. think more balanced. but i think a compromise might be to have subscription service. then you can decide it's worth, can decide how much it's worth, how much you pay. you can choose to go for the bbc world service. you can choose to for you can choose to go for the news. choose go for news. you can choose to go for the strictly dancing. and then it's up to you. well i love a bit strictly, but you know bit of strictly, but you know what? it would cost far more if we did right, because the we did that right, because the fact it's so cheap it is remarkably i cheap. remarkably cheap. i mean, cheap. i mean, £6 for strictly and match day and everything match of the day and everything in that's incredible match of the day and everything in that's that's incredible match of the day and everything in that's tiper incredible match of the day and everything in that's tiper monthible match of the day and everything in that's tiper month cost. and that's the per month cost. but it's so popular, why not but if it's so popular, why not put to people to choose to put it to people to choose to pay put it to people to choose to pay that amount? and i think the reality won't because reality is they won't because now. right. i mean, you don't now. right. i mean, if you don't want telly and you want to watch telly and you don't to watch the bbc, don't want to watch the bbc, then you don't have to. but is it right that people are literally hunted down, threatened not threatened with prison for not paying threatened with prison for not paying this isn't that paying this fee? isn't that really quite ? i mean, look, it's really quite? i mean, look, it's very rare . very rare that that very rare. very rare that that happens. right i think it's

slightly exaggerated and i definitely think that if you are a pensioner on a low income , but a pensioner on a low income, but there are lots of wealthy pensioners, you can definitely there are lots of wealthy pen�*their's, you can definitely there are lots of wealthy pen�*their own u can definitely there are lots of wealthy pen�*their own licence efinitely there are lots of wealthy pen�*their own licence fee itely there are lots of wealthy pen�*their own licence fee or.y there are lots of wealthy pen�*their own licence fee or if pay their own licence fee or if you the category where you are in the category where you are in the category where you discount your council you discount off your council tax. example . they shouldn't tax. for example. they shouldn't have that sounds fair have to pay it. that sounds fair enough. you know what? i enough. but you know what? i think that kind think we should value that kind of institution and the of national institution and the rest the world it, rest of the world values. it, i think, would be idiots to do that. dominic i think i agree with you on that. benjamin the bbc perfect institution bbc is not a perfect institution by stretch of the by any stretch of the imagination. share the about imagination. i share the about political bias that emily was talking about during the brexit referendum, overall, i think referendum, but overall, i think all sides of politics feel that bbc biased and therefore bbc is biased and therefore maybe it's actually doing quite a good job of impartiality. it's a good job of impartiality. it's a national british institution, and i may i just say, and i think may i just say, well, we constantly this argument about, oh, well, if the right of angry and the left are angry, then it must be being impartial it's impartial. that's not true. it's just representing no one it's just representing no one or it's representing sort of soft liberal sort of blairite type of view , one that benjamin would

view, one that benjamin would agree with . that's why you think agree with. that's why you think , well, you have outed me as a blairite . i'm a proud blairite. blairite. i'm a proud blairite. you know, people say, why do you join the labour party? say, because tony blair is the greatest prime this country has ever had. and if that doesn't alienate all four of us, does alienate all four of us, it does see what the emails. alienate all four of us, it does see what the emails . you know see what the emails. you know what? i think that the bbc have an establishment bias. so it tends to be small c conservative towards who is in power at the time because it has to be careful around who is shaping its funding. that's why dystopian though the state broadcaster must bend the way it comments certain issues to the government . the day i mean i was government. the day i mean i was an ardent critic of the lock down policy and the bbc failed . down policy and the bbc failed. it failed massively to critique the lock down policies and i would argue that because of this idea of a state broadcaster that we have in this country, but you agreed with the lock down. so you wouldn't agree with you? i mean, i did agree with lockdowns because. to kill because. i didn't want to kill

people's frankly. people's grandparents, frankly. and perfectly and i think that's a perfectly reasonable thing for most british to have thought. british people to have thought. so though, so we were told, though, benjamin the case? benjamin is it not the case? right. emily put it there. right. and emily put it there. the an obvious leftie the bbc is an obvious leftie liberal institution packed full of people like yourself . and the of people like yourself. and the only reason you like it so much is because it speaks exclusively for people like you. ultimately the bbc has forgotten the british of its name, and that's what we here at gb news, right? isn't that right? benjamin i mean, that's some grimes gibberish, right there. you know, the truth is the idea that the bbc has a left wing bias is ridiculous, right? the director general of the bbc , a former general of the bbc, a former conservative party councillor , conservative party councillor, the chairman of the bbc, funded or facilitated rather an £800,000 loan to prime minister bofis £800,000 loan to prime minister boris johnson, the head of news , the bbc and the bbc, england . , the bbc and the bbc, england. a person who point to the head of news on the board of the bbc set up gbh as a conservative. it may be true. tell me how the

left wing liberal party may be true, but that is questionable. but if you took poll of the people working at the bbc, the people working at the bbc, the people choosing editorial, people choosing the editorial, the choosing the stories the people choosing the stories that into the news, the that go into the news, the people have on people choosing who they have on to present , they to do to present, they have on to do x, y and z. you will find that there is an metropolitan bias far more likely to vote labour than the general public. i think that just true. it's that is just true. it's demonstrable and it's said to me that many is not true. that re major, that sense. there we are. that's klaxon now we're going to move on folks i'm gordon next and i'm going to tell you why the plan not to prosecute eco extremists is totally barmy start the clock . folks the start the clock. folks the kimono clad julianne moore and the famous now and not just a kc boat, the guy that clobbered a fox to death wearing his wife's kimono. he's a liberal left lawyer and he has said in the guardian that he's found 100 virtue signalling lefty lawyers

that are actually going to refuse to prosecute the climate extremist blocking britain's roads. you've seen them out there blocking ambulances , there blocking ambulances, getting from a to b it to me it's a disgrace . and the only it's a disgrace. and the only reason that julian and his mates want to do this is because they know that if they it to you, the british people , you would british people, you would overwhelmingly tell them where they could shove their kale, collard green , extreme views and collard green, extreme views and ultimately why these lawyers are saying we refuse to prosecute these extremists is because they know they can't win at the ballot box to . me folks, they ballot box to. me folks, they see the science . they wax see the science. they wax lyrical about how the science is actually behind them. when the new science test is as hysterical as these people like greta thunberg , who, by the way, greta thunberg, who, by the way, five years ago tweeted out a now deleted tweet about how the world may end because of our use of fossil fuels in five. yes,

actually fossil fuels are the reason the reason that the cost of living is all that your food shop is. oh, that the cost of up your car is up. shop is. oh, that the cost of up your car is up . we've got to get your car is up. we've got to get back to basics. we continue to these liberal lefties rise up. darren price how then benjamin, what have you got to say about that? i mean, you know, i actually and it's similar to this about these protesters. first of all, i think they are here. save the world. okay the fact is that you can't you . fact is that you can't you. that's true. i am. i am the people's prince. but the fact is that have had many of the hottest ever recorded have been in the last ten or 20 years. thatis in the last ten or 20 years. that is a fact. there are parts of the world, bangladesh for example, which had more of its country go underwater than ever before and. so millions, tens of millions of people seriously displaced, benjamin, those are consequences of climate change. so we should listen to the

baristas, not eco activist , baristas, not eco activist, causing misery to the british people, going to do to solve any of the serious problems that you just highlighted . diddly squat. just highlighted. diddly squat. that's what the verges of the virtue signalling and that's it. sorry. diddly squat is a great farm and that's the only one i'm going to think about. the truth is that when these activists go out, they us talking. that's why it works prosecute. we won't have that i mean have that protest. i mean ultimately is fossil that ultimately it is fossil that have us to actually with have allowed us to actually with weather disasters . weather related disasters. weather related deaths are year on year because we're actually in a position to use technology to advance human flourishing, to the beautiful the not so great point and the reason why we're able to explore of this technology is precisely because fossil fuels and people mentioned , renewables. yeah, mentioned, renewables. yeah, well, achievements at the moment about fossil fuels are the reason why we have all this technology. it's the reason why we keep our food fresher for longer , the reason why we can longer, the reason why we can have hot baths. it's the reason

why we can be technologically advanced . and that is something advanced. and that is something that a lot of people forget and we talk bangladesh and we talk about bangladesh and pakistan. actually going pakistan. are we actually going to about reason to talk about the reason why these affect so many people ? these affect so many people? it's because they don't have the proper infra structure that can actually stop them from so affected. it's not just about climate change and i that we should be concentrating on mitigation. but i think the point the fundamental point about beyond climate about this beyond climate change, whether you think it's real, whether you it's real, whether you think it's a crisis, whether you think it's an emergency , the is an emergency, the issue is whether you think lawyers should be taking political stances and denying on case simply denying to take on a case simply because don't agree with because they don't agree with the who needs defending . the person who needs defending. i mean, is absolutely i mean, it is absolutely ludicrous and not prosecuting people on the basis of politics, thatis people on the basis of politics, that is not good for the rule. exactly. do you worry about that, actually, that, benjamin? actually, this plan would actually reduce confidence and faith. we've already seen metropolitan police trust in that is at an all time low. if the british people don't reckon that actually police and the judiciary are going to deal

with those who are breaking the law by preventing ambulances getting from a to b and all the rest of work and people from getting to and from work that actually what you're going to do is trust even further . well, is trust even further. well, working people won't be getting to half the country's to work when half the country's under water. that's what he's are talking about. me answer are talking about. but me answer your directly . legal your question directly. legal representation party, representation for every party, regardless of accusation is integral to a functioning democracy . whether you are democracy. whether you are accused of being a child murder or a or the other most heinous crimes can happen. they still obviously deserve legal representation because that's essential to justice. but i the question about something like climate disaster and these eco protest is isn't in the same category as that kind of essential behaviour. they're still going to get representation . i am sure that representation. i am sure that there are more than enough people are barristers who people who are barristers who are lawyers will represent are lawyers who will represent them. people just taking them. these people just taking a stand that the law should stand to say that the law should be doing it. they obviously be they doing it. they obviously trying to virtue signal, obviously pressurise obviously trying to pressurise

other lawyers, lawyers who have to accept these kind of cases to make money. i that is their business. that is their job. business. that is theirjob. it just utterly pointless and just seems utterly pointless and quite self—indulgent actually . quite self—indulgent actually. well, absolutely. and the only reason that these people are actually themselves actually fooling themselves on britain's they can britain's is because they can actually afford take the penalty in most cases. right. these people are claimants in leftie metropolitan liberal i am here are actually making me feel like are actually making me feel like a bit of kale when i like i don't i think it's disgusting if that's the diet that you people want us to actually live on. right we might as well go back to that. benjamin. we'll be crawling the studio in a loincloth . mean, i can see where loincloth. mean, i can see where i might appeal to some viewers of the millennial. i think a cave is for you. the only thing i can afford to buy this. but you know, you want to stereotype these people as being out of touch the truth is that it's the lowest paid and the most in this country. and indeed the world. you pakistan and you mentioned pakistan and bangladesh be bangladesh earlier who will be victims climate, the

victims of climate, the extinction rebellion , protests extinction rebellion, protests when there were protest as middle class protesters, predominantly who were blocking tubes going with the thing. so the sentiment if you care about the sentiment if you care about the world's poor , you would be the world's poor, you would be the world's poor, you would be the loudest champion for fossil fuels and the use of them. that's what's lifted people from literally crawling around in own filth in their life, dying, childbirth . i filth in their life, dying, childbirth. i think we filth in their life, dying, childbirth . i think we need childbirth. i think we need things like wind farms across the country. we need things like solar you when the wind stops blowing, we live in an island down. there's plenty of wind. there's enough. well, it's a young germany but even with young from germany but even with regards the current cost of living crisis and how that's had a knock on effects on energy bills the wind companies haven't actually consumers to reap the benefits of these so—called lower cost of renewables maybe when renewables must be more of retail price. we still pay the same. yes, across the board. i think ultimately at the end of the day, what we need is a proper energy strategy that some

of that's to come from nature. some of that's to come from renewables and also fossil. we will leave it there now after the break. and i'm sure wouldn't dream of golden anywhere and leaving me on my lonesome . we leaving me on my lonesome. we are going to albie after the break i'll be. what have you got for to tell you for us? i'm going to tell you why can win next general . why can win the next general. don't go anywhere . there's help for households. are you over state pension age? if your weekly income is below £182.60, or £278.70 if you live with a partner, you could be eligible for pension credit, even if you own your home or have savings. it's worth, on average, £3,500 a year and you could get help with heating bills and more, plus up to £900 in cost of living payments.

we welcome back folks to the saturday let's cross street on the next debate up next it's albie always going to us why he reckons rishi sunak is going to make history for the conservatives and win the next. let's start the clock . rishi let's start the clock. rishi sunak can win the next general auction this week he showed his mettle when he passed the windsor framework and he the

problem . the three conservative problem. the three conservative prime ministers, prime ministers couldn't the brexit mess in northern ireland not even boris could sort that out . he solve could sort that out. he solve the problems. assange created with liz truss as mini—budget and stabilise the economy . after and stabilise the economy. after liz truss tried to hit all the notes. but unfortunately they all came out in the wrong order . he readily gets better poll ratings. people poll ratings than cast armer. his singular plan for is tax the rich , tax a plan for is tax the rich, tax a non—dom and tax energy giants. that's not a plan , britain. that's not a plan, britain. that's not a plan, britain. that's a plan to decline rishi sunak has a plan to cut debt, to cut inflation, to stop the boats, to grow the and end the nhs waiting list once and for all. and that's why rishi can wear so , benjamin, i've got wear so, benjamin, i've got a feeling that you may disagree with me because you quite like keir, don't you? i mean, you . keir, don't you? i mean, you. let's just hit all the right

notes. they're wrong. i'll order. i mean, i've had screaming cat sound than liz truss this time in government. so you don't like to less so you don't like to pay less tax?i so you don't like to pay less tax? i will not pay tax of tax? i will not pay less tax of her. earlier i talked her. you know, earlier i talked about bbc costing £13 a year about the bbc costing £13 a year more. liz cost 500 quid, a more people's mortgages, everything month. but i don't think tories are going to win the election and because people are so much worse and the truth is that people like you who i think are sort establishment tory figures have been in power for so long that you've lost touch with the country and you've become entitled on rishi sunak it's going to be rishi sunak it by the time he gets to the truth is, benjamin rishi sunak gets good personal approval ratings better than keir starmer's . so, better than keir starmer's. so, i mean, what do you say to that? why is he getting better personal approval ratings than your man? i mean, he a clown running the circus because. you've got every type of nutjob running around in the conservative in parliament conservative party in parliament right. they are not a team . they right. they are not a team. they can't what they want can't decide what they want to do got you know,

do. they've now got you know, he's trying stop the boats. he can't even stop boris. i'm interested in what emily has. yeah i just that i'm not yeah may i just say that i'm not sure suffering from bit sure if i'm suffering from a bit of benjamin, but of amnesia, benjamin, but i think actually lockdown, think it was actually lockdown, indeed, wholeheartedly . that has indeed, wholeheartedly. that has to this economic situation where, we have rampant inflation. we also have massive nhs lists. this is what rishi sunak been dealt. he's been deau sunak been dealt. he's been dealt these cards because of people like you are constantly clamouring . and i tell you, you clamouring. and i tell you, you will hear that on bbc. i'm sorry . i think i might be suffering from a major who is the chancellor who introduced lockdown. but darren rishi sunak, in case you want. he said he wanted to know. do you not agree that rishi sunak's the windsor framework is really great for northern ireland. the windsor framework is a reheated micro meal of the northern ireland protocol. that's a stormont brake option . it is. stormont brake option. it is. the stormont brake is a break on brexit because it actually means that we will never diverge away from the european union because

. we would be diverging away from northern ireland. he is alive off part of our country and accepted that we do not unionist . communities in unionist. communities in northern ireland are distraught , totally feel utterly by what the prime minister's agreed . the prime minister's agreed. make my sort of feeling about this and vote that was had on the stormont brake and it is better than the northern ireland protocol. it wasn't working . protocol. it wasn't working. even liz truss, when she was secretary, said that the northern ireland protocol wasn't keeping with the good friday agreement . it is just factually agreement. it is just factually better than what boris johnson was able to negotiate. and i think people forget is that we actually have negotiate with the european. yeah, i don't disagree with any of those. but rishi sunakis with any of those. but rishi sunak is selling this the land of milk and honey when actually it's really not because ultimate ni the not a lot changed in the solution well my solution would be to say the eu. you go ahead

luvvie your border and it would tear down immediately the it is ridiculous to suggest that before the eu we didn't have a different regulation and rules to northern ireland and the repubuc to northern ireland and the republic of ireland between the two. there would not be a hard border because the people in both sides would not build one. they wouldn't stand for it . i they wouldn't stand for it. i think the eu has constant trade wars he has had held us over a barrel. look if there's a trade war, the eu would be cutting off their nose to spite their face. so if i say, look, i'm demonstrative, i mean, agree demonstrative, i mean, i agree with to a large extent, but with you to a large extent, but the problem is even you have the problem is you even you have staunch brexiteers now the likes of david davis like steve baker actually this is probably actually saying this is probably the best we're going get time for a bit of pragmatism , time for a bit of pragmatism, time for a bit of pragmatism, time for bit of negotiation and to for a bit of negotiation and to actually give up a little and i agree with you that this not an ideal solution at all. and i'm sure some viewers at home, particularly those in northern ireland, have something to ireland, might have something to say the problem is say about it. but the problem is there that exactly

there is fatigue that exactly and people in northern ireland, they recently they they were recently they overwhelming support it and actually overwhelmingly unionists that support it it's primarily the dup don't. well people just want stormont to get back into motion . i was a back into motion. i was a unionist voter and i listened everything rishi sunak said he's actually secured i'd be happy as laurie but when you actually read what the eu have seen they've secured it's the square root of the whole, whole whole look what they've achieved. but in we've been to in reality we've been able to allow trade of things like sausages which weren't able to do before the stormont brake. yes, it's not perfect , but it yes, it's not perfect, but it does allow stormont to actually raise concerns with westminster and there is a process for doing it. yeah, but it's not, it's not complicated we have jenga, you know, the queer the question of whether sunak can win the whether rishi sunak can win the election. well what an achievement can get sausages achievement we can get sausages around country by not i'm around the country by not i'm not i'm not talking to solving the problems in northern ireland was actually one of the things

that was making investors worried about investing in the uk because they were worried that was going to be a trade war with the mess. you know, now that has been resolved. investors are seeing a lot more comfortable the future of comfortable about the future of britain and that means lot to britain and that means a lot to albie for all they've albie for all of us. they've hiked corporation tax . what hiked corporation tax. what business to want to business is going to want to come here? they've been ripped off to heaven? look, the off to high heaven? look, the decision corporate as decision on corporate and tax as a conservative is not that i was completely comfortable with, but equally we spent £700 billion dunng equally we spent £700 billion during the pandemic. we've got to pay it back somehow and i'm concerned you will lower taxes before the election. the before the next election. the one liz truss got right one thing liz truss got right and very little right if and got very little right if that. okay after that. yeah you've heard it here first after the break folks we'll be hearing from dominic dominic what have you got in store for us? i'm going to be telling you why the treatment of posy parker in new zealand was misogynistic. don't go anywhere .

we welcome back to the saturday five. i thank you very much. your company now it's over our guest presenter this evening, the wonderful dominique samuels . dominique is going to tell us why the protests against posy in new zealand are an example of sheer misogyny. let's start the clock well . the modern trans clock well. the modern trans movement is no longer about equal rights and dignity. it's about a baying mob. the demanding that you deny biological or else . we saw as biological or else. we saw as much during the treatment . much during the treatment. women's rights campaigner posy park parker in the new zealand leg of our international tour, titled let women speak and what we find bays mostly feral men. so at the mouth desperate to stop a woman from speaking there are arsenal tomato expletives and trans flags. now we that these so—called protesters

themselves to be violent but i think something really quite pernicious runs at the heart of this and it's called misogyny let's just look at the figures over 70% of those that identify as trans are biologic men with you guessed it, penises. it's no wonder that it's mostly women and women's spaces that ritually sacrifice at the altar of trans something stinks here. and it's called misogyny . i mean called misogyny. i mean dominique invented that better , dominique invented that better, but dominique, i want to actually abuse my position of the chair and ask you a question . why do you think the foreign office haven't actually got involved with this? because i don't know about any of you, but it me absolutely it strikes me as absolutely rotten that british national rotten that a british national who, two weeks after who, you know, two weeks after they've strategy they've released strategy on women and girls claiming to back women's free speech right . why women's free speech right. why are the foreign office not actually saying to new zealand? i'm sorry , but this is an i'm sorry, but this is an outrage. that's an extremely good point, actually, because first, activists to prevent it

from actually going there , she from actually going there, she gets that she's literally in fear for her life. and i think that's and departments in government all more leftward i think because of civil servants that perhaps they that exist. so perhaps they don't want to rock the boat. but i think absolute that the government step government should step and say something. mean, you something. i mean, what do you think? i'll i mean, i'm not really the foreign really sure it's the foreign office's job james carville is job to be getting involved in this sort of thing in new zealand. it's for them decide zealand. it's for them to decide who's allowed in their country. and they let people in. but to come back your point my issue , come back your point my issue, posy so the calls posy parker isn't so the calls which she is championing it's the way that she goes about it you know she has been accused of harassing people i think that's totally wrong. i also it's totally wrong. i also it's totally wrong. i also it's totally wrong for protesters to be harassing her when she's going about her business in new zealand. but she knows she's talking about a very controversial topic . well, i controversial topic. well, i just i just and i just wish she would do it in a bit of a respectful way, rather than

seeking to be celebrated. i'm but she is just sick and tired of having to step on eggshells on this issue. i think she is brilliant champion for women's rights and she you know, sometimes she has to be blunt. sometimes she to stick. often it sometimes she to say things as they are rather than pretend that things aren't true are true, just keep people happy. let me correct . if it weren't let me correct. if it weren't for her, then women like me wouldn't feel comfortable speaking up. you see, dominique wouldn't want to jk rowling if weren't for posy. palkot kelly keene which so real name. i believe we would feel like we couldn't but emily , see, my couldn't but emily, see, my issue is what you have just said issue is what you have just said is that prominent feminists within gender critical movement such as julie bendall have actually sought to distance themselves from posy precisely because of the way that she conducts herself, which is my problem with how she behaves. i think that's obviously julie's prerogative, but i think that it's posy parker who is most

it's posy parker who is most it's posy parker is around the world trying to let women's and the reason why we be blunt here is because are losing ground, quite frankly . everywhere you quite frankly. everywhere you turn, men are being shoehorned into women's spaces. and i think we need to be clear, men that identify as women are trans, but that make them a biological woman . we shouldn't have to woman. we shouldn't have to share changing . we shouldn't share changing. we shouldn't have to participate in the same sports. we shouldn't be in the same racial shelters. it's a i mean, the videos i saw of this person on her tour and it seems to be a sort of bigger world tour than taylor swift can have can manage the ego of this person to think that she can just go around the world telling them what they should. she protest the yoko. i think they can make their own decisions and these things, frankly, but most of i saw protesting of people i saw protesting against her were women . there is against her were women. there is against her were women. there is a senator from tasmania who protested against her and, was arrested and thrown away. sorry and the truth is that i'm sorry. you said that you take issue

with the way she does it. rather what i think hate is what she does. i think hate is this. i don't know how you look at this. see, how can you look at this. see, how can you look at scenes new zealand and at the scenes new zealand and think is the one who think that she is the one who exactly did you see the clips she threatened she was she was being threatened she was being suit she head being followed suit she was head supers dominique turned on supers as dominique turned on her really was some kind of her it really was some kind of one let me just describe insane to what it's like to be a child let me just. well that's not true yes they get is a fraction what? no, no it's really not because let's look at the facts here. there are no rights that trans people don't have in this country. and in other major developed countries. so what do the people that don't identify do they have surging numbers of hate that's abuse in the streets abuse in their offices. why are there so many people and we know this who are transgender, who have really that and recognise that in themselves. so the whole lives are terrified to lives but are too terrified to tell in the world what tell anyone in the world what about is that if not for about why is that if not for bigot what about women bigot but what about women though no one? the question about rights except that about women's rights except that

they exclusive. they are mutually exclusive. i don't are right to don't accept they are right to lead. your life is harmed by out there trump so you don't there being trump so you don't think life as a woman so think that my life as a woman so if i wanted to participate in professional sport you don't think my life a woman is think my life as a woman is impacted by a biological man wanting to play basketball? for example ? me and other women? example? me and other women? i don't think there's an advantage if a 25 year old person is been physically male and then starts the transition and the process of transition and wants straight into wants to go straight into women's there's women's sports, i think there's obviously unfairness in that. obviously an unfairness in that. but i don't accept is this but what i don't accept is this argument somehow people argument that somehow people fully transitioned. we've had the and the physical the medical and the physical journey they shouldn't be journey that they shouldn't be able to live their lives and that's but that's that's somehow rape but that's not let me just not the argument. let me just finish you wayne finish quickly. you know, wayne cousins dress up cousins didn't need to dress up as a woman. he dressed up a police officer in huntly , didn't police officer in huntly, didn't need to dress up as a woman. he dressed as a school caretaker dressed up as a school caretaker . who want attack women . men who want to attack women dressed established. i'm dressed up as established. i'm just insult . dressed up as established. i'm just insult. i'm just just going to insult. i'm just enough to insert some facts here and hate here. but and there's no hate here. but when actually look at the when you actually look at the statistics people all

statistics trans people all trans men identify as trans men or men identify as women have similar women actually have similar offending rates is thought biological men and record numbers of those actually have convictions for sexual assault in prison you are more likely to but that's not to say all the trans women. oh, no, that's not the problem . women constantly the problem. women constantly talk about male violence , talk about male violence, rightly, because that is a cause . feminists will always want to speak about and come pain for. but then why? as soon a man says that they are a woman do we suddenly believe, you know , that suddenly believe, you know, that this is a topic that women feel very, very strongly about? they've been called for a long time. people like posey, polke have allowed women, normal women to have a voice. and i think that's got to be a good thing. yeah. and dominique, just very quickly, briefly because we're coming to the end, you actually think keane warning for think kelly keane warning for years about what the years as she has about what the dangers self id could be when dangers of self id could be when you've got someone like bryson so called in a scottish prison who actually use search and self

id to say you know a woman now get put with women exactly like these are facts nobody's saying these are facts nobody's saying the old trans people are all trans women are criminals. but there is a tendency of people to use dressing up as a woman to fulfil their own sexual fetishes and actually the new environment that we have now to take advantage of that and i don't think it's transphobic to put those concerns right folks . that those concerns right folks. that was a spicy one, wasn't it? so we need breather after that. and last but not least, folks, we're going to be here from emily. emily, what have got . for us emily, what have you got. for us to finish the show , i'm to actually finish the show, i'm going tell you why the french going to tell you why the french need get real and accept that need to get real and accept that they need work a little bit longer. well, folks will find out after the .

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welcome back to . the show, as welcome back to. the show, as i said at the top of the show, you'll views are more important than i was. so let's have a little look at what you've been saying about the saturday five. oh, no james says, i've got to see. this is great. it reminds me of being at school arguing about politics with my friends but when a very different school i was behind the bike i won't tell you what i was up to in a brutal but a lot of fun. we you very much james island the bbc says two benjamin why should i pay says two benjamin why should i pay for a service i don't use the bbc wastes money hand over fist alan a man after my own heart beat disease. why should i pay heart beat disease. why should i pay for something i do not watch while anyone would pay the car tax if they didn't drive , for tax if they didn't drive, for example. a fair point at that. that's a good point. and on france, which is coming up with emily in a moment christine says, emily's topic sounds very interesting and i think she's right. he's what you say. see that way christians the next

mystic meg he says the young simply cannot afford to keep subsidising an generation to not work for 30 years. and it's selfish to. expect the young to do so. now, folks , up into the do so. now, folks, up into the lion's den . of course, it's our lion's den. of course, it's our one and only emily carver. emily is going to tell us why she thinks, the french, need to calm down, loot and get a grip let's start the clock. it looks like that chaps already made my argument for me but let's just say i'm no fan of here macro. but what is going on in france at the moment is beyond ridiculous. i mean is absolutely extreme . the riots you've got extreme. the riots you've got you've got widespread arson , you've got widespread arson, you've got widespread arson, you've got widespread arson, you've got rubbish piled high , you've got rubbish piled high, you've got rubbish piled high, you've got rubbish piled high, you've got absolute hooliganism. frankly and you've also got police brutality. i think macron had forcibly replaced crossley with the english, the absolute state of it, and worst of all,

worst of all, king charles iii won't even be able have his gala dinner at the palace of scribbler. scribbler and why all because macron wants to raise the pension age by two years from 6462 to 64 which les remember is still the lowest out . any major european union country. so many states really the great disaster now you don't have to be a fan of macron to know that the french need to get real. well, there you go, dominique. what do you think? you think they should be out writing while it's more so, the spirit of protest, because the french known for coming out in when there's a policy that they don't like. i mean, we saw that with the fuel tax rises that macron tried propose in 2018 and people were out in droves. you know, this election that was and they actually had to roll on that policy. and i think that

perhaps we could learn something from . the french it now i'm not from. the french it now i'm not advocating people commit crime but i think that for too long in this country we've just rolled over and let things for example with the lockdown policies. i think that if people came out and said , but you we wouldn't and said, but you we wouldn't have been under such pernicious policies. i take your point . if policies. i take your point. if you look at the british welfare state and you think that's looking a bit bloated, i mean, looking a bit bloated, i mean, look at, france, they're spending 40, 40, 10% of their gdp on public pension alone like thatis gdp on public pension alone like that is a huge amount of money. they need economic reform and it's going to hurt a bit, but mainly what do you say to the people at home tonight who may well be thinking, hang on a minute, emily right. i'm 64 myself and i can't for a few years yet. they putting up the age in this country when you can actually retire. many people ask the question, am i going to be working until i drop dead ? well, working until i drop dead? well, that's the question i'm asking

myself. probably going to have to our to work till we're into our seventies. well our seventies. well into our seventies. well into our seventies. here in the seventies. we'll be here in the gb studio with a stick. so gb news studio with a stick. so with our teeth in a glass. next to us. but we'll be here because we're going to have. but if the french this, french won't accept this, they're to to accept they're going to have to accept a drop in their standard of living. it really is as simple as living longer. as people are living longer. their life expectancy is longer . what do you think, benjamin? i mean, i the west has a fundamental problem, the economies in this way. you know, there's number of older people to younger sometimes to younger people. sometimes i think should keep the think we should keep the refugees send the pensioners refugees and send the pensioners to we'd be in a to rwanda. then we'd be in a much start doing things much better start doing things well at least that we'd be able to have jobs. but actually to have some jobs. but actually it's more i'm being tongue it's much more i'm being tongue in cheek. i think there is serious problem here because, you what, of go you know what, lots of people go and university degrees, and get university degrees, might working lives, might start their working lives, their at or 22 and their proper at 21 or 22 and they might live to 85 or 90 years old. in fact a third of people born today are expected to have the 100th birthday. so that's what's happening the world. if you go from

world. but if you go from kensington in london , the kensington in london, the richest place in the country, to tens the in liverpool, there is more than a ten year gap in life expectancy. so you have people who doing manual labourjobs who are doing manual labourjobs starting at 18 years old, exhausted , and they might only exhausted, and they might only have a few years . well, this is have a few years. well, this is it. so how is that fair? well is the thing a lot of people at home will probably be saying. i mean. right. and please do. we'll be saying, well, we'll probably be saying, well, hang about you're hang on. what about if you're doing manual job? what doing a manual job? what if you're labourer? if you're a labourer? what if you're a labourer? what if you're your body and you're using your body and basically can't continue working? i'll be look, i think it's very serious point that we do need to address the inequalities that we see when people get older . lot of people people get older. lot of people in our generation talk about rich pensioners. well, actually there of poor there are a lot of poor pensioners. it doesn't say pensioners. it doesn't to say actually to state pension it'd be higher because actually not enough for people to live on. but then equally the chancellor has got to balance that with the need pay for everything else. so it's almost an unsolvable it's a it's almost an unsolvable problem in the daily

problem i read in the daily express which would never like you know you wrote for the daily express a great newspaper. thank you, benjamin. read in that you, benjamin. i read in that that 2024, average that by 2024, 25, the average income of pensioners will be higher than that of people in their twenties. yeah that kind of isn't sustainable. that of thing isn't sustainable. that is way round. but surely is not the way round. but surely this these this is just what these governments want. they want us to be targeting other saying pensioner bad young person good and the other way around when really it's too distracts from their own failings. this current economic situation is because of the failings of government all around the world, but everyday people are continually expected to pick up the tab. and if we look the actual political environment, france right look the actual political environment , france right now. environment, france right now. yes won. but why did win? he won because . most of the people that because. most of the people that voted for the far left, a far left character, were shown actually wanted to stave off the far not that it was a ringing for macron. so the reason why seeing so many people angry is , seeing so many people angry is, because really they have a right

to be i'm dominique and i want to be i'm dominique and i want to put this to of course when actually has to do this by presidential decree like you some king in mediaeval times , do some king in mediaeval times, do you not think people have got a right to be angry about the anti—democratic where i think they do have a right to be angry because he has as, you say, bypassed parliament to get this through on some kind of executive order. that is anti—democratic. but what i would say is that he campaigned this yes. he was re—elected this. it was part of his manifesto . so people knew he was manifesto. so people knew he was going to do it. shame on the french then voting him in if they didn't want this because france's for so long, for so long needed economic and it just seems to be impossible well, again i would say that i don't think the last election was necessary really a ringing endorsement of macron. it was because politically. yes the right was gaining momentum . the right was gaining momentum. the right was gaining momentum. the right really be against right would really be against these sorts of policies i mean, for a very long time , marine le for a very long time, marine le pen, when she was leading from national, they would the

official opposition france. so it's no wonder that he's actually to use undemocratic means to sort of push through these policies. i'm let me just remind everyone once again that it is the lowest age of any major european country like this. it's not like they're trying to raise it to 75. this is actually quite a small reform on a in france. it's treated as if it's the worst thing in the world the way go. and you think they replace the crescent with engush they replace the crescent with english muffin? i mean, you know, french protest too much . know, french protest too much. you think some you know, i think some protesters the delight of our viewers , going to have to cut viewers, going to have to cut you off . absolutely fantastic. you off. absolutely fantastic. so thank you very much for joining us. you are important to us. get in touch. gb views gb news uk and tell us what you enjoyed the most. next up, folks, it's the brilliant marc dolan . we'll see you again next dolan. we'll see you again next week . thank dolan. we'll see you again next week. thank you very much, dolan. we'll see you again next week . thank you very much, folks week. thank you very much, folks . wave goodbye. goodbye for a drink. now i'll tell you about

the other nickel face. hello again . we have some pretty wet again. we have some pretty wet and windy weather across southern parts as we go through tonight. elsewhere, yes. there'll be some showery rain around, but in the north it's frost and ice that's perhaps a bigger cause for concern. take a look at the bigger picture and you see this of low you can see this area of low pressure and it's this that's going its way across going to track its way across the south, bringing some pretty unsettled weather we go unsettled weather as we go through night into through saturday night into sunday a closer sunday morning. take a closer look the detail. some look at the detail. and some rain from rain spilling out from the southwest spreading much southwest spreading across much of england and wales as of central england and wales as we go through night, a little bit uncertainty to just bit of uncertainty as to just far that rain's going to far north that rain's going to make be pretty make it, but could be pretty heavy some of up to 30 heavy for some of us. up to 30 millimetres in a few spots in the we've got a cold the north. we've got a cold northerly wind and temperatures dropping, perhaps even some wintry bring sleet wintry showers bring some sleet and a milder and snow here, but a milder start in the south sunday morning through, sunday itself then, cloudy , wet, first then, yes, cloudy, wet, first thing the that is thing in the south. that is gradually going to clear its way. and so as we head into the afternoon be drier, afternoon it will be drier,

albeit staying cloudy here albeit staying quite cloudy here some bright or sunny spells likely further north across parts scotland, also some parts of scotland, but also some to watch out for. these could be bit wintry at times. notice ice temperatures markedly down compared we on compared to what we saw on saturday, though, perhaps a little bit milder the little bit milder in the southwest, to highs of southwest, could get to highs of 12 or 13 as we go through the end day on sunday, we end of, the day on sunday, we are going to see most the cloud and showers clearing away and those showers clearing away and those showers clearing away a clear picture a largely dry and clear picture through that through sunday night. that combined northerly combined to that cold northerly flow mean temperatures are flow does mean temperatures are going quite a perhaps going to take quite a perhaps a touch of frost in spots towards more southern parts, but further north frost on monday north the frost on monday morning quite morning is going to be quite widespread harsh some widespread and harsh with some icy to out for as icy patches to watch out for as well monday itself then. well through monday itself then. yes, a cold, frosty start for many of us. but actually it's going to be a generally fine day. lots of sunshine to be had. watch out some showers watch out for some showers towards parts towards north towards parts towards the north sea rain reaching sea and also some rain reaching towards otherwise, towards shetland. but otherwise, yes, fine weather to yes, plenty of fine weather to be it is going to be be had. it is going to be chilly, but you'll want to make the before the most of fine weather before things more unsettled, things turn more unsettled, albeit later the week

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