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his daily rate would be 10,000 and pounds last. mr. kwarteng said he would expect to be paid similar amount every month . similar amount every month. employees are allowed to seek outside of parliament and there's no accusation of any wrongdoing . you're up to date on wrongdoing. you're up to date on gb news now it's back to nana . gb news now it's back to nana. good afternoon. this is a gb news. it'sjust good afternoon. this is a gb news. it's just coming good afternoon. this is a gb news. it'sjust coming up good afternoon. this is a gb news. it's just coming up to 7 minutes after 3:00. i'm nana a square. right. let's get started . i'd like to introduce my panel today. i've got brexit party mep martin daubney and also a former adviser to jeremy corbyn, james schneider. right. so let's get started now. the home secretary when the president could bound the european of human rights. i'm grounding deportation i'm grounding my deportation flights to relieve flights in a deal to relieve pressure from a tory rebels, she said . get this deal over the

said. get this deal over the line. and finally , some flights line. and finally, some flights could off to rwanda. sir could go off to rwanda. sir martin must start with you. what do you think you do welcome this whole idea banning this kind businesses to and fro ing. i think anybody who thinks that the echr is going to roll over and uk get special and let the uk get special dispensation must believe in santa if that's what you use. car like to sell them won't care following a very low it's fantasyland. i can't it happening some people on our side are optimistic that this this new legislation is a breakthrough. i'm more pessimist stick because history is on the side of being pessimist not single fly as left so far there is no sign of the end grass over the channel slowing only the weather is stopping that . all weather is stopping that. all estimates this year looking at more than double last year, maybe as many as 100,000. where are they going to go .7 i mean, are they going to go.7 i mean, even facilities are they going to go? i mean, even facilities in, rwanda even the facilities in, rwanda cannot cope . so i think it's cannot cope. so i think it's more tough . but if they don't more tough. but if they don't sort this out , more tough. but if they don't sort this out, i think electorally it's going to destroy to them, the next

general election . it's it really general election. it's it really is do or die for conservative policy know however the entire immigration industry because that's what it is a multi—billion pound industry the lawyers the charities the ngos entire civil service is the media. bbc the press. the political class, which all basically as a team with with the general public or mostly anti mass immigration political class all mostly pro, i think a battle of a lifetime. and i think this is going to be for the death of. the conservative party, do you think? james what do you what's your view on this? i mean, agree with martin that. i mean, agree with martin that. i mean, agree with martin that. i mean, you can't just the agreement she's trying to reach isn't the court. it isn't lawyers. it's with some rebel tory mps. now, the court doesn't have listen to any deal that she makes with tory rebels it's about what they're doing on an amendment so i think you know much of this is turned up on the front page of the sunday

telegraph as it was it's sort of tough talk that doesn't mean anything she can't ban the hrc from anything in particular she can say that we don't wants them to make these rulings which effectively what she's she's saying here so i the chances of them changing their mind probably quite slim and the but i mean the rule and the plan anyway was not going to deal with the refugee issue. so you know it's it isn't going to happen these flights aren't going to take off however much she wants win them into existence that isn't that isn't going to happen so i think you know they instead should be looking at but isn't she talking this rule 39 that the echr brought that sort of stopped the flights so she wants to get in there and deal with that specific rule so they can't stop flights, isn't that right? but she can't she can't change

court's rules. right so i mean, she can change what the government wants to do and then anything that that we're signed up to any and the courts any rules that we agreed to follow . rules that we agreed to follow. she can say i would like that to change, but whatever body it is, the overseas it but but but it's on the news and she's asking for a higher threshold before that rule before she's asking but you used the right verb they're asking why she back on the court making the decisions that it's making. so again, this you know, whether this is being used to bnng whether this is being used to bring on board these 60 tory rebels and this is a bit of spin i mean that is how should you know that's how it should be seen. i think the only way this can pan out well for the conservatives because, want conservatives because, they want to of legislation to bypass a piece of legislation if wanted to, though, face if they wanted to, though, face mother of all legal cases and resistances . but what i think resistances. but what i think that already seeing, that we're already seeing, i think, you and i talked think, james, you and i talked

spoken this spoken about this before. this is weaponised by the is being weaponised by the conservatives against conservatives to party against labour effectively now labour a effectively they're now saying party want saying the labour party want uncontrolled immigration and next it'll be the same as before in brexit, the legal system, the qc is the lawyers they all want this to happen . only voting for this to happen. only voting for the can stop this despite the tories can stop this despite the tories can stop this despite the that's always haven't the fact that's always haven't stopped of rule. stopped it in 12 years of rule. so i think it's going to get messy, it's going get ugly, so i think it's going to get messyto:'s going get ugly, so i think it's going to get messyto:'s gvery get ugly, so i think it's going to get messyto:'s gvery political. ly, so i think it's going to get messyto:'s gvery political. but going to get very political. but i yet more proof just i this is yet more proof just bluffing and posturing and i think it's pretty toothless. wow what isn't get me your thoughts . do you think as you're listening and watching from home, what's your view? gbviews@gbnews.uk or tweet me at parties? do you think that this is actually just chest puffing or just think that there is some sort of substance to it? i mean, james, where you stand on the nofion james, where you stand on the notion of rwanda anyway, the fact that people could be sent there if yeah. think it is a good idea. no, no, a terrible idea. i mean, not only because it can't work, i think it is. it's, wrong a it's, it's wrong. says a bad thing about as a country and we shouldn't be trying to offload

our like this . you know our problem like this. you know the refugees you say the problem back on if there wasn't there wasn't space okay so you're trying to find another space that be after the that will be looked after the taxpayer paying for so taxpayer still paying for it. so refugees it's a global refugees is it's a global problem and the overwhelming majority of refugees are in the country nearest to where they are fleeing from . right. every are fleeing from. right. every country in the world has an obugafion country in the world has an obligation to help work to deal with this problem, which is people being displaced by war and conflict , climate change and and conflict, climate change and so on. yeah, we know that. right. and so we be taking our responsibility seriously, which is not saying, well, we're going ship them all off to rwanda except that it doesn't mean we're taking it. we already, we're not taking it. we already, we're not taking it. we already, we already are taking it seriously. fact, taxpayers seriously. in fact, taxpayers very serious because they're the ones £3 billion per ones bankrolling £3 billion per year on the asylum process , 1.7 year on the asylum process, 1.7 billion on housing, 7 million a day on hotels. this is a serious issue . it's to say we're not issue. it's to say we're not fulfilling. our obligation is, a

fantasy. it's a clearly it's a it's very grim reality. and also, i think it's this this kind of gary lineker version of the truth, because every single arriving in the uk is fleeing a war, is absolute fantasy , a war, is absolute fantasy, a nonsense. we know that's a huge of economic migrants from from that are safe like elba and fact all of them have just come from all of them have just come from a safe country france. so this nofion a safe country france. so this notion that they are fleeing war zones, i think is a useful fantasy. well, i mean, it's not a fantasy because about two thirds of people who claim asylum have the asylum cases granted in this country. in another country, about 30% of ones who it depends in, you know, in different countries that we have all we all take the highest, but also there are i mean, no , with with those who mean, no, with with those who come and seek asylum out of all the other countries, we are definitely taking a high percentage. but the in absolute numbers relative france and germany, which are a much bigger countries, i might add. no, by population. france's size . look,

population. france's size. look, as france is this france is france is the same size population with a much larger larger than is. you make a good point a little bit they make a good point. france is has similar population, but the land space, the land that they have, the density of the population is far than ours. we much so far less than ours. we much so it was not well. so therefore we're a smaller country so therefore don't have as much. therefore we don't have as much. but people leaving but why are those people leaving and fisk but why are those people leaving and risk of that yes. and some risk of that lost? yes. the utopia is obvious because the uk is the pot of gold at the end the rainbow. except end of the rainbow. yes, except it willing . yeah, it simply is willing. yeah, except. really is it except. except it really is it because it isn't like so why they were coming here. so it so welcoming racist and welcoming and racist and horrible just i'm going to go on some people say that but people are not coming because they might get 30 quid a week while they're while they have asylum. i roof over their head while their vessel in the water and also while they're receiving treatment while their asylum case is being processed. right. people are coming from are people who are coming from are coming from afghanistan , from

coming from afghanistan, from iraq, from libya , albania area. iraq, from libya, albania area. let's where the majority more are coming from those war zone countries albania let's mean a mess. yes but if you would say okay iran . all right but but you okay iran. all right but but you will both accept that there are people who come from war zones, from horrible, terrible circumstance losses, who are among and in fact, the largest of the people who are the people who are here. now, your question is, why would they not want to stay in france, but to come here? why would people want to come here? and, of course, people have lots of different reasons, but they tend to boil down to they will have some connection with the uk for either historical reasons might have worked with with british in afghanistan, for example it might be a former colony. and so there is a historic connection. they might have family or friends or some other connection or they might speak english and they don't speak french. they

they don't speak french. so they feel that's way that they're feel that's the way that they're most able to restart their lives and, to contribute to the society that they're in it's a is here is here rather than just hold on and on people are also people not doing this willy if you they're not they're paying about £70,000 if but if you are if are paying huge amounts money and risking and risking your life to get what you think is a place of which would be would have been from you're risking your life again. but okay people keep on running until they feel safe that might be a subjective thing may be a subjective thing but that is case. let martin respond. wouldn't it be if any of us in the world could just take look at all the countries and go, yeah, that one speaks my language. yeah, that one i can get house. yeah, yeah, i like that one. i've got his historical. oh yeah, i've seen that on the tv. it's like this, this arbitrary checklist where they're the uk they're allowed to choose the uk and expected to and we're somehow expected to 90, and we're somehow expected to

go, great. and you go, yeah, okay great. and you come you crack. here's the come on, you crack. here's the hotel free. hotel here's everything free. now point of the matter is nobody has ever said that we should not fulfil our dutiful obugafion should not fulfil our dutiful obligation help those in obligation to help those in genuine peril. i'm finished genuine peril. i'm finished genuine peril. i'm finished genuine peril. but james, he must understand. you must accept surely the system is being gamed by some the system is clearly being gained by albania, who by the way, get like a 0% asylum, accepts in countries like sweden because they rightly accept it as a safe country. so it was actually there's actually an albanian, swedish mp who saves it drowning baby i saw the other day, but but there are some albanians are saying look we accept that the put that sorry albania is a safe country okay so friends okay now people people who they're not like looking through a menu of countries to come they may be you know have you that and you say we're fulfilling our obugafions say we're fulfilling our obligations we all know if you

are iranian on earth are you meant to come to this and people couldn't have asked you to come to this country through a safe route? well, at the moment, you initially said the majority initially just said the majority coming here are iran. and they say they can't afford to get here. i mean, which version of truth i'm didn't say the majority coming for i said how you say fulfil our obligations and therefore we are providing safe routes people fleeing and what you would you would accept are genuine personal humanitarian reasons persecution. that's why you create assignments. we're going to go on with this. listen to what you think. come on, get your thoughts in vaiews@gbnews.uk. i'd love to read messages . i've got read all your messages. i've got a of them. will read in a few of them. i will read in just a minute. you just told me i'm done with this is get is on tv online and on digital on the way be talking about net way we'll be talking about net zero. ever going to reach zero. are we ever going to reach the government's ambitious goals 7 the government's ambitious goals ? back in moment. good ? we're back in a moment. good morning. ayres and morning. my name's ayres and welcome to our latest weather update from the met office . it's

update from the met office. it's a cold and frosty out there for some, but there's plenty sunshine and settled weather to come today. and that's due an area of high pressure that has centred over the uk clearing away those low pressure systems we saw through the weekend , we saw through the weekend, bringing us a nice settled start . the new working week . now . the new working week. now looking at the detail for this , looking at the detail for this, it's a bit of a frosty start with some icy stretches out there too, but plenty sunshine as well away from the far south and west. well, that might be a little bit of mist and fog to this morning, but that will readily lift and clear to leave some sunny spells as we head into this afternoon in of this plentiful sunshine. it will feel pretty pleasant through today , pretty pleasant through today, though temperatures themselves won't actually be much higher than what we saw to end the weekend as we go into this evening with plenty of clear skies around . temperatures will skies around. temperatures will drop quite readily into tonight, but as we look further west, we see the next pressure system making its way in from the

atlantic. so if the west half of the uk temperatures will actually rise as we go closer to but across the far north and east, we could just an odd patch of frost to start the day through tuesday morning . cloud through tuesday morning. cloud and rain will continue to make its way north and eastwards to be affecting most areas . the be affecting most areas. the time we get to late tuesday morning, there will be some heavy of rain as well as some. now on the leading edge of that particularly across scotland , as particularly across scotland, as well as over the high ground of northern for a time. but as these winds become southerly from , that cold northerly we saw from, that cold northerly we saw earlier on, temperatures will start to rise . and this will set start to rise. and this will set the theme for the of the week with further outbreaks of showers and rain throughout the week. but temperatures will be on the rise, particularly from about on thursday onwards . we've about on thursday onwards. we've got a brand new line up every saturday on gb news from pm. i'll give you my unique take on the world today . then at seven

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channel is fast. channel is fast . 25 minutes after four, is fast. 25 minutes after four, 3:00 even. crikey i mean the hour ahead. this is dvd is on tv onune hour ahead. this is dvd is on tv online and a digital hour. and then a quick now before the break we were talking about migrants and refugees . let's migrants and refugees. let's have a look at what you've been saying. john says our country is being abused and the people in it, it seems why , are it, glenn, it seems why, are these young fighting age men . these young fighting age men. why don't they stay in their countries to fight for the

changes and sarah is changes they and sarah say is lefties in the civil service? of course , grant people asylum to course, grant people asylum to defy the government. and why are you sighing , james? it's put you sighing, james? it's put your in head with your hands in your head with that message . i mean, that previous message. i mean, if someone is running away isis , for example, or from a poker or war or persecution . it's just or war or persecution. it's just like they say, oh, no, just stay there and die . i just find it. there and die. i just find it. but say shamima back and then you want to come back. and of course, that was a different story, but . i course, that was a different story, but. i mean. shamima begum is a different story. but i mean actually i think we could gather quite useful intelligence from from interviewing her and find out more about that and we can do that that's where you do that. i'm serious that's by by. right. move this right. well, let's move on this we net here now all we got into net here now we all know government set out know the government has set out its and proposals for decarbonising all sectors of the uk to our net zero uk economy to meet our net zero target by 2050. but now the

climate change report says that the uk must bring net zero forward to 2040. it's is this overambitious ? i'm joined by overambitious? i'm joined by martin daubney and journalist and former brexit mep and former adviser to jeremy corbyn, james schneider on the start with you james. net zero. is it realistic 7 james. net zero. is it realistic ? 40 they're saying that ten years. so it's extremely ambitious technically it's very difficult we shouldn't be about the bush fossil fuels are incredibly energy dense and we have 150 years of investment into infrastructure for our economies to be run on fossil fuels. so we need to be able to make that whole change about 150 years worth of investment in infrastructure in an extremely short period of time . so it is short period of time. so it is extremely ambitious , but it is extremely ambitious, but it is totally necessary because if the science has been forward and it seems that according to the, you

know, the latest science that tipping points, which is when a great show of five that show. okay when they look when a rapid and usually change happens and those can begin to cascade and then things start changing very quickly in and it's not like things are a little bit hotter like half a degree hotter you well that doesn't matter but actually it changes serious ecosystems like glaciers melt things, you know, things change and they say that this is most likely to start to kick in. these begin to kick in these tipping points at one and a half degrees of warming above pre levels. now at the moment, we're at about 1.11. to the uk met office says that next year they expect it to be 1.5, although they expected to come down a little bit beforehand . so we've little bit beforehand. so we've got very to the point at which big changes to our and to our environment cannot be undone,

which will have huge impacts on our economy , on the flows of our economy, on the flows of people , of goods, of energy. and people, of goods, of energy. and we have move very, very fast. but of course it's ambitious because we've left it so late. if we started doing things we wouldn't know which we did start doing this 20 years even remember gordon brown that we've got 5 minutes or whatever it is to say save the world we've been doing it and. bear in mind we've had cop27 so that's 27 times we've been talking about this , we've been talking about this, talking and doing it talking about it and doing it and there private jet. so i'm and there by private jet. so i'm this about the trouble net zero is the world's biggest polluters have net zero interest in following the rules because the more pollution come out of china the last years and out of the last ten years and out of britain since revolution and this is the point we are punishing population . the punishing our population. the working paying the working class is paying the hardest because as a proportion of our of our livelihoods are going out on heating because of a cataclysmic failure of planning ahead in terms of our energy policy it's costing point

4 trillion to reach these targets by 2050. now it brought it forward years . well that's it forward years. well that's 7000 pounds per household every year bring that forward about two grand every year. what we actually need to be doing is be energy dependent energy sovereign. at the moment we, have a situation where we have to we have to restart for coal pipe to we have to restart for coal pipe coal fire stations recently in the cold snap to keep the lights on. and that's what i even think about. where are these electric cars going to be plugged in? exactly i mean, the actual national grid, the capability isn't there to even hand we're hand this. meanwhile, we're getting net and we're getting net coal . we're importing coal net coal. we're importing coal from australia, from the usa , from australia, from the usa, from australia, from the usa, from south africa. we're import liquid nitrogen , liquid gas from liquid nitrogen, liquid gas from america . the future is beneath america. the future is beneath our feet. we have our own shale resources. so there's a mine in whitehaven which has got planning permission which be stopped by, by lawyers and by activists and by, by the labour party and the liberal democrats

and the green party who would rather we depend on overseas tyrants, energy or overseas imports rather than being self—sufficient . meanwhile, self—sufficient. meanwhile, we're all getting poorer , we're we're all getting poorer, we're all getting colder, and china and india are just laughing at us. and also they're doing that just so they can say, well, we only 1% of the full total when in actual fact, we are taking from other countries that are contributing. that's it. contributing. yes, that's it. that's completely that's that's completely true. if going and if we are going this way and i mean, look i don't know whether i in the science or not i believe in the science or not find it a little devious find it a little bit devious cause a of people are cause i know a lot of people are making a lot of money out of it. but if we are going to try and do this i'm just feeling that it's genuine. don't think it's not genuine. i don't think that attempts that we're that the attempts that we're making genuine. making to do it are genuine. correct. so so that's why correct. so okay. so that's why i agree. don't think most a i do agree. i don't think most a lot of the attempts we are making, i think some quite a lot of it greenwash quite a lot of it is greenwash quite a lot of it is greenwash quite a lot of can be counterproductive of it can be counterproductive and on, just to come back and so on, but just to come back on and agree with that, we on and i agree with that, we should haven't security should we haven't taken security seriously. is an seriously. and that is an extremely thing to do extremely important thing to do and should be looking at our

energy chain but the imf no great green leftie institute says that the annual fossil fuel subsidy is 6 trillion usd. okay so the cost of the green transition , the so—called green transition, the so—called green transition, the so—called green transition pales in insignificance to are people making a lot of money. let's take shell shell which has record profits and is just reduced its green its green investments and it that under its projections that net zero won't be reached until the 21st century because for all of the next cop is being charged by someone who is the head of an oil. we are we are captured by the interests of the big fossil even we need to get that. well what just a point. i mean, we need to get under the eye out from under the thumb of them. what is the final word you might think about that effect? well, i

just you know, if the is just think, you know, if the is just think, you know, if the is just tax and tax and tax that the fossil fuel companies shell and the multinationals, they simply invest britain anymore simply invest in britain anymore they'll , just elsewhere. and they'll, just go elsewhere. and then happens ? and as as then what happens? and as far as i know , their profits being i know, their profits being record are simply record amounts are simply because the demand for gas which we all still like it. well, no, mostly dependent the price of mostly dependent on the price of the further because we've the going further because we've had cataclysmic failure to had a cataclysmic failure to supply the future supply our own shale. the future is beneath our feet. let's take british. well, listen, we've that's james jean that's the message it james jean says james until you guys accept that there are too many people in the world and do something about it, we're fighting losing battle. what do you suggest that we can't get rid of people let's see what everyone else is saying we've gone for oh, john says carbon dioxide accounts 0.0. 4% of the world's atmosphere , of the world's atmosphere, nowhere near enough to cause drastic changes in the climate. well, i see. the point is, i think the science is still questionable actually we've known the science for hundreds, but we've got so many things wrong. they said the coral reefs

were weren't were gone, but they weren't going there's loads going were they? there's loads of got wrong only of things we got wrong and only been actual been doing the actual calculations years where calculations for 100 years where we've been choking the coral reefs been no, no, they've reefs have been no, no, they've gone a third. they've gone gone up by a third. they've gone over is in over the barrier reef is in great health. very good. yeah exactly. were told it was exactly. and we were told it was going to be gone. ian says, there's no crisis. the crisis governments means of generating revenue gone the revenue that's gone from the high street, the warehouses government form local government in the form of local central to international. and david says, i think as of the planet, we should almost try to look after it. i certainly don't believe that there's a crisis when i'm you on that. i think that there's an issue of polluting rivers and waters with things this is things like plastic. this is things like plastic. this is things do and things we could do and manufacturers could deal with it, but they're not. are they right. well, are with me. i'm not this actually old not queer. this is actually old tv digital. after tv online and on digital. after the we'll continue . great the break, we'll continue. great debate. i'm asking well what debate. and i'm asking well what do you think with regards to brexit we'll be getting stuck into that the government wants support in parliament for part of its new this week the of its new brexit this week the

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president insists that it wasn't unusual, comparing it with the us stationing of weapons on the territory of its european allies . we were on tv online dab+ radio and on tunein this is back now to nana in just a moment. good afternoon . you just tuned good afternoon. you just tuned in. you might be thinking, see and, get rid of. no, i've got an extra hour on the show. it's coming up to 37 minutes after 3:00. i'm not a square this is gb news. we are the people's channel the the channel on the way. the government won overwhelming support its support in for parliament of its new and this is new brexit deal and this is despite a rebellion from of despite a rebellion from some of its and the backlash its own mps and the backlash from members of the democratic unionist party. dup is brexit a step closer. we'll discuss it in just a moment

welcome back. if you join me , welcome back. if you join me, where have you been? this is gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. we are the people's channel. i'm not a square now , the break we were square now, the break we were talking about, the fact that everyone's talking about net zero and i've got a couple of emails from tony tony says live near nissan. and listen, there was talking to one of their engineers and he said there's another line of evs and i asked him how is the phone supposed to these vehicles? and he replied, these vehicles? and he replied, the not worried the government are not worried about they expect about charging they don't expect the have cars. the lower class to have cars. yeah could see that . and soon, yeah i could see that. and soon, says martin, talking sense and facts. both james talks no sense and just feeling feelings. james oh, that sounds very nice because normally the left get accused of only talking facts and figures and not engaging feelings and emotion. so i'll take as real comment. take that as real comment. i think they talk feelings think they always talk feelings in. a lot the people in. my view, a lot of the people on the left, my feelings it's all me and i feel all about money in me and i feel we've this and that and so not

sticking to the facts i think james the fine man and can james the fine man and we can disagree but we disagree on many things but we all wish i can at the end of it. and it's good to feelings. any feelings are very good. yeah. and facts. and get and also facts. i'll try and get them our next debate is them right. our next debate is brexit. government support brexit. the government support in parliament for part its in parliament for part of its new by 55 to 15 new brexit deal by 55 to 15 sorry votes that was sorry votes to 29. that was remember vote was done in remember the vote was done in between that kangaroo court despite from of its despite a rebellion from of its own and the backlash from own mps and the backlash from members the democratic members of the democratic unionist party martin and james not martin, toby and james. it's not martin, toby and james. it's not a me on to start with you martin supports johnson this chance and priti patel. they all voted against windsor free deal this week that's the thing that was but but it's itself through the commons i mean what do you think about it what's your thoughts. it was the right to vote against it, although boris kind into this mess, we kind of got into this mess, we don't really. cameron is don't really. david cameron is the started it. no, i'm the one that started it. no, i'm talking about deal that was talking about the deal that was signed. was i an mep at signed. i was i was an mep at that i was sent back. bbc that time. i was sent back. bbc question from brussels on question time from brussels on 17th october 2019, when the

withdrawal agreement was published. it was abundantly clear ink was even clear before the ink was even dry on that on that that it was a terrible deal to restart theresa be fair, boris theresa may to be fair, boris trying to adapt something. it was went was not the deal that went through was boris is there through was was boris is there is them ready to turned out is of them ready to turned out to be a complete turkey but she's made worse and she's made it even worse and that because they know that that is because they know that i am protocol gave us the to veto which we now surrendering without a shot being fired. we have sanctioned annexe the part the united kingdom to brussels. it's abundantly clear when you go through it, for example , go through it, for example, northern irish fishermen , if northern irish fishermen, if they leave a port and go back to northern, having crossed the of the sea border, which is still there, we were it wouldn't be there, we were it wouldn't be there or treat as a foreign vessel upon their return in future laws that we make here will have to be a approved by brussels . this leaves the cat brussels. this leaves the cat flap to the rejoin me. but you have to ask yourself why so many people invested so much political time and all those years like . keir starmer trying

years like. keir starmer trying to cancel wipe out the brexit vote. why were they so prepared to vote for this without having even the fine print? the answer is clear, he said, even before doing it, because they know that this deal allows closer alignment in the future. if the leaves float out the way we're expected , then rishi loses and expected, then rishi loses and gets in. they'll be closer alignment. this wins a framework allows that to happen . it's allows that to happen. it's a terrible deal for britain and for those of us, the kind of up our nice, easy livelihoods to get involved in politics, to go to brussels. i think it's the final act of betrayal certainly for the people of northern order, they've been thrown under the dup were really the bus the dup were not really supporting no. and supporting this at all. no. and that's right thing to do. that's the right thing to do. because why should they surrender of part of surrender control of a part of the to brussels, which is the uk to brussels, which is what does. about how what this does. it's about how you it up. it at you dress it up. it leaves at least part of the uk under the control and the auspices of brussels . that was never what brussels. that was never what people voted for . james i mean, people voted for. james i mean, i think they all voted for it

because they're tired of the trying to square a circle is not possible, which not possible to do. you've got the northern ireland on island of ireland that for economic and political reasons and social cultural reasons and social cultural reasons can't have a hard border, which that you've got to have either a hard border there, a hard border there , a fudge. a hard border there, a fudge. and we've tried some different and this is the latest fudge now you might feel betrayed . you you might feel betrayed. you know, i'm i'm sorry you and so on. you know, there has to be either a damaging hard border on one side the damage on hard border on the other side. nobody wanted that at all. i know. but here is the thing we live in a fantasy world where say we'll just have all of the things and there's no there's no impacts. there's no implication reason

why the eu and ireland would insist on that , not on having insist on that, not on having some alignment on rules and not having lower tariffs say in for goods. let's just make simple on tariffs because you could import via northern ireland and into the eu that way and you could get around that tariff system. switzerland as a frictionless border. those that control that, they've got to they've got to fudge they've got a good fudge. then it be then else and it might be a better fudge. my point is it's it the thing that you need to have is some kind fudge the idea that that is then some trojan horse, it's for northern ireland. it's not for the rest of the uk. it's a trojan horse in for region. i really don't think that all of these tory mps that voted for it are desperate to rejoin the eu. i think really very few people are desperate to, to, to join the does that new. i'm not desperate to join the you know i'm i'm bored of talking brexit. i think it's best the problem is basically

distracts but do you think that was really part of it. actually they just wore us out the which is the tactic of the eu to get wear you down and in the end a bit like the sort of putin strategy with ukraine in the end you lead that you submit to something would never something that you would never have in the first have agreed to in the first place. yeah, i think the person would be happiest with this is michel barnier. i you know, my old i have old sparring partner when i have a at in brussels because a go at him in brussels because they've played the long game, played attrition. played the war of attrition. you're quite right. brexit fatigue real fatigue syndrome is a real thing. the snp's rid thing. the snp's won't rid of this. conservative is no this. now conservative mp is no it's they want it gone it's a fudge. they want it gone and party don't want and the labour party don't want and the labour party don't want a against it because that a vote against it because that would be electoral suicide in the wall. but it allow the red wall. but it does allow the red wall. but it does allow the ratchet to go back towards brussels and strasbourg the brussels and strasbourg down the line. why starmer likes it. that's they're to for that's why they're to vote for it even seeing. i feel it without even seeing. i feel sorry for the dup. really. i do. because they've because i feel like they've they've in a way they've been done in a way because they didn't really have a say because course the a say because of course the labour jumped straight labour party jumped straight on the and therefore the back of it and therefore there was really no chance the dup's right. dup's will count. right. let's

have what you've been have a look at what you've been saying. i'm from carter says i voted and i don't think voted to leave and i don't think it a mistake. i just want it was a mistake. i just want them to get on with it. so we can all go forward. i think that's kind of the thing, jane in plymouth, if was in plymouth, if there was another referendum, vote another referendum, would vote to but did you to remain really. but did you vote to leave to begin with? we were lies and the were told so many lies and the government didn't have a clue. but we knew kevin in says but we knew that kevin in says the trying look the tories are trying look unhed the tories are trying look united because behind sunak but the it when the the the it when the wins the framework to the framework falls. hats off to the rebels and there weren't many of them. they did put them. yeah but but they did put their down hats to. their foot down and hats to. moving let's get to moving on now. let's get to another now the another story now some of the cooking challenge the third state visit to france that's postponed a request by postponed after a request by president macron. president emmanuel macron. downing street says over concerns this safety area concerns as of this safety area in brighton says i admire the french if were against something they make their feelings known. we haven't had the to do anything since the great fuel protest in 1999. what do you think i should change? i'll come to you because went to motty last job. yeah. what do you think about? the protest. yeah

62 yeah, i think it's 62 to 64. yeah, i think it's quite inspiring . you know, the quite inspiring. you know, the saying that the being asked. well they're not being asked macron the president he's going around their parliament and he said we're going to take something away from you and hasn't got the mandate to do it. he doesn't have the popular support to do it. it's very unpopular policy and french people have said no and they've gone and protested in absolutely massive numbers and they've they've for themselves. they've stood for themselves. and i think that's why they've got some of the extra benefits and lower state pension. and so than we've got here because they will go to the streets they , will go to the streets they, will go to the streets they, will protest it and they will fight for it and i you know, i've got to say, hats to them. yes. he james, i knew you would agree on this one. because because know that the pits were left like a bit of direct action. i wasn't aware our spirit has gone. but last time we like in we saw anything like this in britain the poll tax riots. britain was the poll tax riots. and got done. it got an and that got done. it got an unfair unjust and a law

unfair and unjust and a law scrapped, a u—turn and scrapped, forced a u—turn and that hasn't happened since it happen over brexit it hasn't happened over legal immigration . it hasn't happened about what our pension rules change. by the way, it's for years extra. you got to work in the uk, but so am i. get a pension. i'm expecting to be dead. i mean , how long we to be dead. i mean, how long we have to stay afloat? but have to work to stay afloat? but what's here is , is an what's happening here is, is an overreach people's of big overreach into people's of big state politicians like macron. and we've got the same mess this side the channel. the trouble is political class don't listen to voters they didn't listen to brexit they tried to overturn it they tried to cancel it. they won't give us a vote on things like net zero or the echr because they know they'll lose. so i think actually this french spirit vive revolution, i'd like to see more of that in britain on appeal. so you're encouraging you're no, i'm you're inciting riot. no, i'm not you like trump the political class don't listen they're completely out of touch on things like brexit and things like net zero on things like big immigration on things woke

immigration on things like woke on things , taxation, the highest on things, taxation, the highest tax since world war two. they don't listen votes don't to don't listen votes don't seem to make difference maybe the make a difference maybe the french got right well french you got the right well obviously got the police crime sentencing and courts act as well to deal with and that's of bringing down any sort of powers of protest which you know, people could is that's a people could argue is that's a good is harder to say good thing. it is harder to say there was a report out from , a there was a report out from, a civil society organisation that with c but it's escaping me the name civicus i think that's right which a global study in the uk out of the free category for protest because of recent laws that have been put in. well actually laws have been put in over the last 20, 20, 30 years and i mean actually, you know, while almost of the examples that martin raises for reasons why should have democracy he and i would probably be on different sides of those. but the central point that we do have a political class which is captured by interest which are not our own and should have widespread democratisation so

that people can have their say that people can have their say that needs to happen. it would be much better, of course we had decent systems so people have to go and risk getting know clobbered by, you know , clobbered by, you know, clobbered by, you know, clobbered in a protest or or disruption. but if that's way it has to, it has to happen. that's the way that it has to happen. well, also, police forces, unions in particular, metropolitan police said they are not. i mean, we've seen there's a lot of bad in there. in fact, like a full barrel of them. and so these of things, we can't we've also lost can't i think we've also lost bit trust in police force bit of trust in our police force because the french i don't know what their trust is in like with their forces. but in this country the police country i don't trust the police anymore. way the things anymore. the way all the things have out, none of. have been coming out, none of. the shows us that the evidence also shows us that our own police force has been captured by a political mindset. for example, during stood for example, during they stood to they took the to one side, if they took the knee to lives matter and knee to black lives matter and they boot into people they put the boot into people who challenge lockdown who were challenge in lockdown still precious still trying to protect precious statues police statues so the police a captivated political captivated by by political movements such as lgbtq of pride

stuff they they they are politicised and therefore they don't represent their police without fear or favour. it's the opposite. not just the bad apples , but i think there's apples, but i think there's a fear that the police don't stick up for the people in france. it's got so bad they're much more, i think seen as authoritarian, totalitarian in fact, one of protests that fact, one of the protests that was a reservoir that's was bounce a reservoir that's being which the locals fear is going sniff and water away to going to sniff and water away to farmers from homes and farmers us away from homes and the and the local authority put in a mandate that they weren't allowed protest so they allowed to protest and so they they protesting even they reacted by protesting even bigger numbers. that's the same streak clamping on protest in france as we here. protesting is a democratic freedom and a right we should all live and die for. it's our right to tell them when they get things wrong. if they don't listen, we're allowed to up the volume, but yet, having said that, on the other side of it, got things like it, you've got things like extinction and of extinction rebellion and just of oil it the police don't oil where it the police don't really seem to that much about it. right. well we even got the barristers saying that. oh, no, it. right. well we even got the bar|going saying that. oh, no, it. right. well we even got the bar|going to (ing that. oh, no,

it. right. well we even got the bar|going to represent oh, no, it. right. well we even got the bar|going to represent the no, not going to represent the police quite lot, police really quite a lot, actually . lots of people from actually. lots of people from just stop oil have been in prison long enough as well. eventually i mean, i don't think any of should should go to prison . well, i think they are prison. well, i think they are engaging in the democratic , engaging in the democratic, glueing itself to the motorway . glueing itself to the motorway. yes, they're engaging that democrats the democrats it right to protest. and i'm grateful for them. and i support them in it. they and in exactly the same this reservoir they've injunctions preventing protest to a whole number of sites around around the uk and this is being used much more so we a there's a backsliding in in the bafic there's a backsliding in in the basic rights to protest and in which is a democratic right and the thing is you don't have to agree with them my martin might support you might support i don't know some protesters whose causes are not my causes but they have a right to do they have people have a right to be annoying they have a right to

say that what is going on is not what is not what they want. and thatis what is not what they want. and that is part of living in free society. and when this is clamped down on which is happening in the uk, happening in other countries, every regardless you agree regardless of whether you agree or disagree with, with people on particular issues should be standing defending standing up and defending that right will a much right because we will be a much less free country. yeah but that doesn't come to you, martin, because you said it'd be great if more of this. if we showed a bit more of this. what it if like the french, what if it if like the french, but then what about infection prevention? you that prevention? ask you that question. see glueing question. you see them glueing themselves to stuff like that. surely talking surely that's you're talking about. all about. no, because they're all clear rules again clear and distinct rules again obstructing stopping obstructing highways, stopping people, getting to work. but these doing kind these guys are doing that kind of as i mean they're of thing as well. i mean they're setting things setting fire to things and things they're saying fall things that they're saying fall to uncollected because to piles of uncollected because all are on strike in all the binmen are on strike in paris. and that's the real reason, the way, that king reason, by the way, that king charles go over charles isn't allowed go over there streets are there because the streets are covered piles covered in burning piles of garbage aren't collected garbage that aren't collected both by municipal both by the municipal authorities. destroyed both by the municipal auth(okayi. destroyed both by the municipal auth(okay with destroyed both by the municipal auth(okay with regard destroyed both by the municipal auth(okay with regard to stroyed both by the municipal auth(okay with regard to the yed . it's okay with regard to the fire because the garbage is

being collected, but instinctually getting instinctually rebellion getting themselves is not acceptable. i'm interested because it's i'm just interested because it's difficult to draw line isn't difficult to draw the line isn't it where well where you it as to where well where you are. right and as far as i know it's okay to set to fire the town hall in bordeaux over pensions . don't block the m25 pensions. don't block the m25 who decides is right. the who decides what is right. the law of the land. however isn't being applied with equity. that's what i'm saying. so before extension rebellion start again, the rest of their calls you just rupture. and they've been blocking ambulances so people get into work causing causing huge damage to the economy clearly and the policing resources being applied elsewhere . but police are much elsewhere. but police are much more heavy handed about things like anti protests. so, so we can already see that there's a two tiered system and that makes you ask whose side are the police on the french of realise that the police aren't on their side at the authorities dance on the side. president isn't on their side. i think it's huge, huge embarrassment and a political defeat for him. the king of britain can't go to

because there's anarchy on the streets . that's true. well streets. that's true. well listen but anyway he shouldn't be getting involved in politics but actually on this one i do agree i'd like see him be some sort of that some sort of activity around different countries keep some level of diplomacy. have a quick diplomacy. let's have a quick look you've saying. look at what you've been saying. marianne birmingham says, i admire are admire the french. if they are against something , make their against something, make their feelings known . we haven't had feelings known. we haven't had the do anything since the balls to do anything since the balls to do anything since the fuel protests in 1999. the great fuel protests in 1999. something in portsmouth says has lost control. he clung to power in the last election and the country is crumbling. i'm so glad king cancelled his visit. it's getting out of hand. yet macron took his watch off as well. they had a very expensive washing took that off i know what it is want to say that because he got robbed because he was thing like money katrina was so thing like money katrina in dundee says macron to hold firm he shouldn't pander to thugs we all have to live with these changes bonds is not the answer i'm calling from and i would say i agree with martin

the political class have lost control we'll see more scenes like this as time goes by. so we sent a message in burslem. she says france is a mess and the uk is a mess. we need help, not a should take charge . i'll do it should take charge. i'll do it and then somebody said, what is james talking about? those people caused disruption should go jail. people lost out on income on seeing. families will because these idiots we are because of these idiots we are so soft. well is stupid is so soft. well this is stupid is on online and on digital on tv, online and on digital radio. thank so much to radio. thank you so much to martin. totally thank you very much. absolute pleasure thank much. my absolute pleasure thank you. and also james schneider. stay there's loads stay tuned because there's loads more the next hour more coming up in the next hour . you've probably . stay tuned. you've probably seen politics. fans interviewed a thousand times, but we it differently. we find out who they really we don't shout we chaps and hopefully we bring a bit of light, not just heat. did you okay. apparently do you have a pair of jeans or. i did. what would i do with them friends? what? oh, my god. what's she doing now? join me every sunday

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scotland next leader. ukraine has condemned vladimir putin's plan to store nuclear weapons in neighbouring belarus. kiev's foreign ministry has slammed the announcement as provocative and is calling for a un security council session. speaking state tv last night, the russian president insisted that it wasn't unusual and compared it with the us nuclear weapons on territory of its european allies before the president has declared a state of emergency in mississippi after , a tornado mississippi after, a tornado killed at least 26 people . well, killed at least 26 people. well, cctv footage shows , the storm cctv footage shows, the storm ripping through the roof of a school, throwing debris down corridors. the twister swept through the state and on into alabama cutting a path of destruction. 170 miles long. around 11,000 residents there are still without power. they say there was no safe place to

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back to nana. ella, get afternoon. it's fast approaching . 5 minutes after approaching. 5 minutes after 4:00. this is gb news tv online and on digital radio. i'm not a prince. the original. spare prince andrew, having seen the financial success of prince harry's memoir, spare is apparently considering releasing book of his own. now, whilst the unleashing of spare may have brought prince untold financial gains . it brought prince untold financial gains. it came at a brought prince untold financial gains . it came at a cost, brought prince untold financial gains. it came at a cost, in my view , of his integrity, although view, of his integrity, although to be fair to andrew, many believe in his that ship has sailed . andrew, it's reported, sailed. andrew, it's reported, would like to set the record straight on. many things, including details of his involvement with jeffrey , an involvement with jeffrey, an association hit the headlines for all the wrong virginia frey, who accused epstein of trafficking her as a minor, accusing andrew of sexual abuse. now case was settled out of court and andrew has denied all allegations . court and andrew has denied all allegations. but things haven't

gone well . the prince, when he gone well. the prince, when he has in the past attempted to clear his record, comes to mind back to that disastrous interview with emily maitlis on the bbc's newsnight. interview with emily maitlis on the bbc's newsnight . epstein had the bbc's newsnight. epstein had been found in his cell three months before, and in the interview , emily. andrew tries interview, emily. andrew tries to clear himself of wrongdoing unked to clear himself of wrongdoing linked his association, which he thinks regretted continuing , but thinks regretted continuing, but that he did not regret the friendship itself as it led to connections which were actually very useful , connections which were actually very useful, he claimed on the night that the so—called assault in 2001 he had been a pizza express in woking and that phrase claims about dancing with him at a club in london . he was him at a club in london. he was sweaty, were false as he had temporarily lost the ability to sweat off an adrenaline overdose dunng sweat off an adrenaline overdose during the falklands war. it was all very bizarre. and afterwards andrew was actually congratulating himself, oblivious to the mess he had made of it . oblivious to the mess he had made of it. his problems escalated from there compounding his predicament. he was pretty much ostracised . the royal

much ostracised. the royal family and his royal duties stripped. why on earth would he considered doing that again ? but considered doing that again? but it seems andrew is apparently determined to set record straight again and tell his story , a story that may well be story, a story that may well be of public interest, but one that only about publisher dared to go near his reputation in tatters. the prince may struggle to even fall into taker and it is also unlikely that he will get an advance like prince harry. it's reported receive millions before even written a word any payment to andrew i suspect will be in royalties rather than upfront . royalties rather than upfront. unfortunately needs must he received no financial inheritance from the queen is being ejected from his windsor home royal unless he can pay for the upkeep and king charles who is holding the purse strings tightly as even in the £32,000 cost of his indian hailer. andrew enough is like a in a spacesuit . spare . us right

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know, perfectly honest, know, to be perfectly honest, i would if it written would fall rather if it written read a book of andrew's and i would to read harris. i couldn't give a harris. i've never give a about harris. i've never read and no interest in read and have no interest in reading . i would more reading. i would be more interested. i to read andrew's version and i think, why shouldn't he write his version? and especially if he has been cut off in all this way, find actually, he won't make it fast , emma, but i expect there'll be quite reasonable for it. so quite a reasonable for it. so frankly, not a lot. i won't frankly, why not a lot. i won't touch it though, because this you're obviously again. just if i could tell that your monologue. i don't know . monologue. i don't know. actually, i don't know who i actually, no, i don't know who i am. his before i read am. i would his before i read harris probably do that. harris i i'd probably do that. yeah right to. qualify yeah you're right to. qualify the fact that he is innocence. yeah only thing guilty yeah only thing he's guilty of is stranger 11 is giving a complete stranger 11 million he's never met. million quid to he's never met. just to spare his . okay. look just go to spare his. okay. look at the circumstances. i'm not defending him. but, you know, look, you realise is until i get i swear i get a lot of i disagree with you both though i think that would be publishers around the block and not now .

around the block and not now. you and i agree on everything, but no, we don't never agree. but no, we don't we never agree. i he's he'll get. but no, we don't we never agree. i he's he'll get . i thought i i he's he'll get. i thought i was being sarcastic. he'll get a publisher of course he going got an upfront payment. not so believe me, this is utterly society. you were being so sarcastic about him , do you sarcastic about him, do you think? yes, i do. you wish ? yes. think? yes, i do. you wish? yes. i mean, the thing is also what i didn't remember the fact that his networking with jeffrey epstein and all of those dodgy characters supersede that. it was more important than what had actually done or what was accused of doing . and that was accused of doing. and that was that was rather inappropriate to say. well, look , i don't like to say. well, look, i don't like to ditch my it opened doors for me, but you need to remember what this guy epstein was. he's a monster. but what does is kind of show his moral compass if you know that of awful that this person has done, then to yourself with that person . but yourself with that person. but to those things may make to ignore those things may make people think badly. to ignore those things may make people think badly . you i think people think badly. you i think different. you know , these are different. you know, these are thing, but you have to respect

that. people you based that. sometimes people you based on course they on the company. of course they do. it is moral do. but you say it is moral compass also. i think it probably shows his thinking you'd do you think just didn't think through i mean anyone think it through i mean anyone you would said yes you sense would have said yes course i regret it he just didn't when even didn't see that that's when even when like it said that he regretted it didn't regret the french. no i know that so therefore he's now informed of therefore he's now informed of the information he has in front of him. and then he's still saying that he regret saying that he doesn't regret the because. the friendship because. it opened glasses , opened doors, his glasses, that's of this regal, that's a bit all of this regal, dirty laundry. peter, the public brilliant. oh, it's i love. the more the merrier. i'd camilla to write a book camilla has angela and evan wrote hang on i wrote that reading it at the moment we're off to scotland shortly and i'm taking it with me and william honestly i think just expose the behind the curtain. you know what was not film is the wizard behind the the wizard of oz behind the curtain. it wasn't this big wizard. was this little bull fat guy? no jokes. nothing going to do like using a generator on do is like using a generator on a bicycle to power . i love it

a bicycle to power. i love it all the better. but yeah, but the trouble is as i think it was badgett who said that once you let daylight in upon i.e. on the royal family the whole thing starts to disintegrate . i think starts to disintegrate. i think they are holding it together at they are holding it together at the moment and i think king charles doing well. and we got william and catherine coming along another along maybe another book, andrew. bang some andrew. we'll just bang some more. didn't do much of it more. he didn't do much of it book, mean, who else book, though. i mean, who else written a book? oh, no. allegedly celebrity . she didn't allegedly celebrity. she didn't cooperate . oh, no, she didn't cooperate. oh, no, she didn't cooperate. oh, no, she didn't cooperate . and she didn't tell cooperate. and she didn't tell all her friends. talk to andrew , a 32 grand in the inhaler about. what that about. yeah. what was that about? paid these or about? getting paid these or somebody paying that somebody was paying that each year to have an india year for him to have an india indian or a lot of people who practises in india, both probably an energy healer who's who's probably to say sales , who's probably to say sales, whether the healer is indian. indian healing, whoever, whoever they are, they will charles would be into that, wouldn't he? well, he's just cut him off from that you know. yeah. it's not having it. yeah. yeah. 32 to

tell you what i'd like. see in andrew's book, i like to know probably won't appear the book is who else was going in and out of jeffrey epstein's mansion at the same time, all rich and the same time, all the rich and powerful that we actually powerful men that we actually haven't about, which haven't heard about, which i think is epstein think is right. epstein certainly you suddenly certainly you can't suddenly disappeared , didn't we? we don't disappeared, didn't we? we don't think there's law . i know. think there's a law. i know. yes, i just. think there's a law. i know. yes, ijust. no, say think there's a law. i know. yes, i just. no, say. think there's a law. i know. yes, i just. no, say . well, you yes, i just. no, say. well, you could say that on that day. actually, i i'm not going to name anyone. don't worry. he could say on that day the publisher, why lie with no defamation and not chance . no defamation and not chance. no chance that's he could prove it but but i suspect that his book could be a little bit toxic to some of the bigger publishers. i think they'll stay away from it. i think there might be smaller ones would oh well, ones that would think, oh well, i'll do and they'll take a i'll do this and they'll take a chance on him. i think that his name is say something he didn't, you with association you know, with his association with people with that, a lot of people are going to publishers have have printed mass printed biographies of mass murderers like i'll write terrorists. when terrorists. you know, when you're the realms of you're going into the realms of that sort crime, has that sort of crime, which has there's denied

there's no he's denied all allegations, the allegations, but it's the association jeffrey epstein association with jeffrey epstein , we know was guilty of , which we know was guilty of these crimes. and i think that if want to associate if you if you want to associate with that's sort of thing with that's the sort of thing that you i think be that people you i think that be quite honest so what saying is that a publisher will print a book about al or a terrorist, but not about a prince, who's been found guilty of nothing? well, no, but is his association with jeffrey epstein . he with jeffrey epstein. he acknowledges it admits and we know epstein was done for, you know, abuse, especially of young minors looking at minors in particular. and i think that that's that's a relief. well, that's that's a relief. well, that was a massive of judgement. yes, it was. doesn't hasn't ever been convicted of anything wrong . just it was true. but that doesn't make any difference in terms of the eyes of the well some publisher out print it. well you would wouldn't you. i would then you've got you've got he's of that let's let he's got out of that let's let if he produces a book two of us will be proved right one of us will be proved right one of us will be proved wrong the other way round to be fair and to be

honest, i would actually rather read book and i would and i couldn't. yes, but i'm not. so i managed to acquire a copy. i wasn't prepared to pay for it and kept falling asleep on the and i kept falling asleep on the first i only got to first ten pages, i only got to the where he about the bit where he talked about baldness in back of his baldness in the back of his brother's head and the fact that his brother no longer looks as much diane used to. much like diane as he used to. and like, oh god, i can't and i'm like, oh god, i can't take this anymore. it was so i kept all the things. it was all remembered, the baldness over everything. that could everything. yeah that they could dig doing it. dig in and they keep doing it. yeah. was horrible. even when yeah. he was horrible. even when meghan i mean, this meghan was talking. i mean, this is in book, but when is not in the book, but when meghan talking about the that she and they're not she went over and they're not very and she talked about very huggy and she talked about kate she'd kate and you know, then she'd realise the coldness realise that the, the coldness was not just outside, it was not just on the outside, it was not just on the outside, it was the inside. and it was also in the inside. and it was also in the inside. and it was like, oh my god, i still everything was phone inside. they william back, they didn't smack william back, you william gave the dig. you know william gave the dig. you is you know this i think this is a form. was he a royal marine, an anglican or a welsh regiments? this is a trained killer. william smacks him. he's not as much on dog much his hands on the dog bow smacks on the dog bolt

smacks his head on the dog bolt gets and doesn't him gets up and doesn't give him a dead no wonder, because dead back. no wonder, because even they call it the duke too. but had to look for them but i had to look for them anyway to tell us about oh, he killed taliban. not. i'm killed 25 taliban. it's not. i'm not killing 25 taliban, not laughing killing 25 taliban, by laughing at by the way. i'm just laughing at the of it. any one the irony of it. any way. one vote here andrew spoke and vote here for andrew spoke and he's a lot of people. he's killed a lot of people. well but also also by well yeah, but also also by unjust. but what you would buy andrew's book the guy who you believe is. no i don't know. i don't believe he's guilty. but sensation at all he's associated with it. i'm not talking about guilty. i'm just saying that he's associate it and a lot of publishers may well go back. you would buy that book more than spare? yeah also, he's been on the planet twice as long, so. well, that's part of well, exactly. that's part of it. i think he'll have it. and i think he'll have a lot of interesting stories. i think he'd lot of interesting he'd have a lot of interesting stories. anyway, the stories. but anyway, you buy the book. i don't know what you're saying. last night vaiews@gbnews.uk gb vaiews@gbnews.uk or tweet at gb news. akua. is tv news. i'm nana akua. this is tv news on tv online and news where live on tv online and digital after the break, digital radio after the break, it's digital radio after the break, wsfime digital radio after the break, it's time for the great british debate this and i'm debate this hour. and i'm asking, mps be banned

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minutes after 4:00. this is gb news i'm nana akua don't forget you can download the gb news app for free check out all the programmes on the channel before the break we were discussing prince andrew. let's have a look at you've been saying on at what you've been saying on harry ian says harry not a spare because a spare would be of use he is not a very good jd says. i have absolutely no interest in a book about prince andrew. no you to access andrew and harry should be ashamed of themselves they're bringing the world into disrepute , catherine says. disrepute, catherine says. andrew has never been found guilty. i have not purchased , guilty. i have not purchased, but i would. andrew's yeah, i sort of feel that way. he hasn't been found guilty, you know. i still do. he's out, you know. and finally fiona's andrew has every right to put his story forward, just like harry has done again and again again done again and again and again i sense a level of sarcasm. christie's again christie's repeated again and again again. thank you very again and again. thank you very much for that. keep them coming now. time our great now. it's time for our great british and i'm british debate hour. and i'm asking, not be banned asking, should not be banned from former

from having second jobs. former chancellor kwasi kwarteng and former health secretary matt hancock have been caught in a sting operation after agreeing to work for £1,000 a day for a fake korean firm. now that's not to mention other senior politicians, sir graham brady, who also attended another meeting with fake firm, meeting with the fake firm, saying would accept a rate of about £6,000 a day. now, proponents would argue that these politicians have compiled a complied with all the rules , a complied with all the rules, and they've acknowledged the importance their work and importance of their work and respective constituents . reason respective constituents. reason under rules, under the current rules, politicians are not ministers are allowed to take on second jobs. so what do you think? i mean last year, around 260 employees earned money from extra work outside . a lot of extra work outside. a lot of critics, including some labour employees of the move shameful dunng employees of the move shameful during a cost of living crisis. but what do you think. so for the great first debate this houn the great first debate this hour, i'm asking you should not be banned from having a second job. joined by former job. i'm joined now by former leader ukip, neil hamilton. leader of ukip, neil hamilton. former mp pound and former labour mp pound and former and political commentator. letters from

obfuscate. well, i'm going to start you neil as you in the studio with me now. what do you think then should they be allowed to second jobs? well, can i say of all, i'm still the leader of ukip. leader? yeah, well, i think it's no bad thing for mps . have well, i think it's no bad thing for mps. have a foot in the world for a one day a week or so, but it all depends on what it is that they're doing. the sort of arrangement which we've read about the papers today, it doesn't seem to me like anything to do with the real world at all, not least because the company they were so happy to take doesn't. but if take money from doesn't. but if you've a business, you've got a family business, for you elected as for example, you get elected as mp. nothing wrong with mp. i see nothing wrong with continuing to you keep your hand in with that . many mp have done in with that. many mp have done that, including heseltine, for example, in the past he built up haymarket press massive company. now he was the chairman of it when he was a backbench chair, also the mp to a paul betters for london mp was a dentist and he still on his practise on a friday i think when i was in the

welsh parliament we had a polite come remember who is a gp and he carried on being a gp on, on fridays. i think that sort of thing is very good because and these do need to experience the real world just appalling for career politicians doesn't seem to me to be the way forward at all and people are always complaining that meps have no idea what's going on in the real world outside. the westminster. yeah, but. but, but they have got a constituent, they've got a lot constituents some would lot constituents and some would say actually that's drawing attention from the job they attention away from the job they should doing. stephen i'm should be doing. stephen i'm sorry, i actually totally disagree. i apologise for this. that's absolutely on stilts. look, if you really want to stay in touch with the real world by all means, volunteer to go work down in your food bank, do whatever you want, but don't take money for it as. far as i'm concerned, it's absolutely simple. if you're spending four or five, six, 7 hours week, or five, six, 7 hours a week, you filling your you know, filling your on a consultancy you are consultancy somewhere, you are not your constitu, not serving your constitu, you'd have a super human to be have to be a super human to be able to do two or three jobs at

once most employees. my once with most employees. my experience, including myself, but from superhuman. so by but very from superhuman. so by by all means you know let's get people have got experience of the real world. you know i was in hospital for two years. i was on the buses, i was in the navy, you know, and then come into parliament. once you're in parliament, wage. parliament, you get a good wage. it's work, heavy it's indoor work, no heavy lifting, and you're there to serve. to it's to serve. you can to it's not to fill your boots as far as i'm concerned. if you're a doctor or a dentist like pulled out in surrey that mentioned by surrey that just mentioned by means to date the means keep up to date with the professional qualifications but don't it if don't take money for it if you're to take money you're going to take money outside earnings, then they should that from your should deduct that from your salary we're all on the salary so that we're all on the side then we have some side and then we all have some reality some that reality and some not that we don't have ridiculous don't have this ridiculous business employees business where certain employees are millions, millions are earning millions, millions a yean are earning millions, millions a year, the legal year, particularly the legal profession . let us what do you profession. let us what do you think ? i think one of the main think? i think one of the main points there is that i don't think mpesa even nearly paid, you know. yes, it is sort of higher than the average british, but this is simply not an

average british job. we're looking to get the top people into positions, not just your average worker. so they should always be paid more. and frankly, this salary is low even compared to other public sector jobs. taking medical consultants or even experience teachers are going to be paid more than . and going to be paid more than. and we know from surveys in the 2010 intake that a lot of who came in actually had take a salary of around £30,000. and we a diverse set of employees from different backgrounds so we feel the breadwinner of your family coming this position might not be able to take up that position if you are taking a loss of income. and instead you might only getting employees have only be getting employees have inherited or have that inherited wealth or have that bank a background , very high bank a background, very high paying bank a background, very high paying background that's, just narrowing the talent pool that we. stephen you need to put the light back on you've got you've got dark out there. let's just say that you use that as a need come back to you on that day.

okay so the 84,000 isn't the only amount that they get so it with respect they also have expenses some of them get second home allowances. i mean, the full salary package, the some of them it's around about 120,000 at least. so bear in mind that 84,000 is probably more like a take home amount. and so i think we need to factor that in. and also there is the privilege of being an mp but you get other benefit it's in kind and essential that have to declare them still the them but you still get the benefits. so actually i don't think and i think a lot of people would argue with you the £84,000 lot of money now £84,000 isn't a lot of money now because i saw you know of course the i find myself in the the deal i find myself in the rather unusual position of being the man in the middle here between the extremes. but between the two extremes. but you know i certainly 84th 20 is a very large sum of money to. most people i mean, the average wage in, this country is just over 30,000. so, of course , 4000 over 30,000. so, of course, 4000 is way up at the top end of what people are earning. so but i do think that there is much to be

said for mps being able to use some of their time to do other things so long as they're legitimate businesses, not just pr fronts or lobbying organisations after. all if you are a small businessman , you go are a small businessman, you go into parliament, why shouldn't you continue for a few hours week to have the role in that business if you're a practising profession , then you need to profession, then you need to keep up to date . if you are keep up to date. if you are seeing clients , if you're a seeing clients, if you're a lawyer or indeed a doctor for that matter, then you all help . that matter, then you all help. you are able to find out what's happening in the real and what you can't do just as an mp, maybe even in your surgery. let's stephen in. i do think that stephen i'm not against debating the campaign salary for now let's get stephen. no, no stephen. the reality about this is how charles kennedy once said to me he said the difficult part about being an mp is that you've got to ride three horses at once. know, you've you got

once. you know, you've you got your professionally professional, your constituency whip. but then he said, if you can't at once, can't ride three horses at once, you be in the circus. you shouldn't be in the circus. well, as far as i'm concerned, in all honesty, it's a decent wage. i don't i don't think that we be encouraging people we should be encouraging people to into parliament just to to come into parliament just to better i some better themselves. i think some ways made for ways as a case to be made for limited terms particularly do i mean i 22 as probably mean i did 22 years as probably you as long as person you know as long as a person should do. but look in all honesty, serve your honesty, either serve your constituents or, you serve yourself. when become yourself. and when you become member parliament, is an member of parliament, it is an immense privilege it's an incredible causes incredible privilege. it causes huge pressure. huge pain. it puts pressure. your actually took your family and i actually took a cut to amazing . your family and i actually took a cut to amazing. i your family and i actually took a cut to amazing . i became a pay cut to amazing. i became an mp in 1997. but that's not point. i was there for public service, and if i wanted to keep in touch with real world, i in touch with the real world, i live in my constituency and see i up and down the road that i walk up and down the road that my to the local school. my kids go to the local school. i am in the real world, i don't need trouser a few need to actually trouser a few grand year to make myself know grand a year to make myself know what you what the real world is. i approached i can i was approached and i can i could look at it and not find would to see you talked would like to see you talked about money that it

about more money and that it wasn't and everything wasn't enough and everything else but stephen else like that but stephen makes a very good point and it shouldn't be about the money anyway. that. i mean anyway. a job like that. i mean it's you talked about it's like you talked about don't get that. there is get paid like that. there is a serious they would be serious jobs they would be listening to you thinking what 84 grand enough. no well, 84 grand isn't enough. no well, i understand. that i understand. and i think that you. right, you know, the primary your primary source of income, your primary source of income, your primary job should always be your constituents representing them. and think one of the main issues that trust has been so damaged in years between politicians and that constituency is that transfer needs to be just 100% on these issues . otherwise we're going to issues. otherwise we're going to run into more issues our in person like cox, he was abusing the rules , abusing the powers to the rules, abusing the powers to not be in his constituency . is not be in his constituency. is your primary responsibility and anything of then that should a secondary role. but i do think that there is benefits to committees and informing debates from having otherjobs within from having other jobs within constituency and being on the ground financially for so well. listen thank you so much for

your thoughts. neil hamilton leader ukip, stephen pound, former labour mp . let us thank former labour mp. let us thank you very much for joining. she's a political commentator . well, a political commentator. well, in response to this story, a spokesperson , matt hancock, said spokesperson, matt hancock, said that the accusation appears to be that matt acted entirely properly and within the rules which been unanimously which had just been unanimously adopted by parliament. it's completely to suggest any wrongdoing and therefore absurd to mr. hancock into this . to bring mr. hancock into this. so the illegal publication of a private conversation, all the shows is matt acting completely properly . haven't actually shown properly. haven't actually shown the video. matt acted the letter and spirit of the rules. and actually we have said that no rules were broken just questioning whether or not they should even be allowed to be going for second jobs with me. i'm is tv news on i'm none of this is tv news on tv and on radio . after tv and on digital radio. after the break, we'll continue to just debate this out. and i'm asking to be banned from having asking to be banned from having a second job. the thoughts of my panel of and also christine and also journalist also broadcaster and journalist danny kelly. but first, let's

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welcome back . this is gb news on welcome back. this is gb news on tv online , on digital radio. i'm tv online, on digital radio. i'm not a square . it's time now for not a square. it's time now for our great butchers debate hour. and i'm asking should not be banned from having a second job forming the chance of kwasi kwarteng and former health secretary matt hancock have been caught a sting operation after agreeing to for £10,000 a day for a fake korean firm. now, proponents would argue that these have complied with all rules and acknowledged the importance of their work in their respective constituencies and under current rules, and under the current rules, politicians are not who not politicians are not who are not ministers. so they are allowed to take on second jobs. last year around 260 employees earned money work outside money from extra work outside parliament. critics have described the move as shameful, particularly during cost of particularly during a cost of living crisis. although i think what's to with it? what's that got to do with it? so it was great budget debate. so it was great budget debate. so i'm asking you should be banned from having a second job. well, what panel make well, let's see what panel make of i'm joined by of that. i'm joined by broadcaster author christine hamilton broadcast hamilton was a broadcast journalist. danny kelly, i'm going with danny

going to start with you. danny because with christine because i started with christine last on though last on the. even though christine probably knows more about about second about it than you about second jobs, only an opinion and jobs, it's only an opinion and it's only an opinion. what was that ladies name on the panel earlier? let us cabbage. as solid. is that just. i suppose i agree. no it'sjust a it's a agree. no it's just a it's a it's a it's an old fashioned name. you don't hear it. you can't climb out of that when you said it's true. but okay. anyway, moving on from it, it's an old fashioned disparaging comments about, young lady. i agree with disparaging about. i was a minorjoke. agree with disparaging about. i was a minorjoke . i'm like, no, was a minorjoke. i'm like, no, no, you're funny. i agree. i it was actually very funny. i just didn't laugh. i agree. come on, get on with it. he should be paid a load. more dough, i think. i wouldn't do the job for at large here. 84 grand. do you know what i mean? all of the hostility on social media, all of meetings in london of these meetings in london where to drive, maybe where you've got to drive, maybe you've you've you've got homes, you've got your second home your paid and second home allowances. get of that. allowances. i get of that. you're away from your family you know, you're liverpool know, if you're a liverpool mp

or whatever, think that or whatever, i don't think that they're i think they're paid enough. i think they're paid enough. i think they second if it they can do second jobs if it doesn't what they in the doesn't affect what they in the constituency , not if it's constituency, not if it's starting to like them starting to like affect them when they're night shifts, when they're doing night shifts, doing something, they come into work they can't sleep. yes. because they can't sleep. yes. then you need to say, look , that then you need to say, look, that second affecting this . second job is affecting this. some that way and some people in that way and others not. of course. others others not. of course. i think you need to just have a line through it and just decide that the answer's no. well, if the answer was no, need the answer was no, you need to pay the answer was no, you need to pay 200 that's pay about 200 grand. that's rubbish. i 86,000. £44,000 is a lot, especially with all the add ons, christine. if you look ons, christine. well if you look at i say half the house of at when i say half the house of commons, just taking that commons, i'm just taking that at random at half random as. you look at half because commons are frankly, because the commons are frankly, they worth 20 and they they are not worth 20 and they are there of are just simply not there of people who could the job people who could do the job a sight better look at the other half and are worth more half and they are worth more than so question is than 80,000. so the question is how you find a salary that how do you find a salary that doesn't overpay pay people who frankly outside doesn't overpay pay people who fran doesn't outside doesn't overpay pay people who fran doesn't underpayoutside doesn't overpay pay people who fran doesn't underpay people and doesn't underpay people who could or or five could earn three or four or five times that amount. so it's very, very difficult to pitch it. they do generous allowances. do have generous allowances. i mean, get about

mean, employees get about 180,000. i think is to employ staff, is fine as long as staff, which is fine as long as they employ the staff to do useful for the useful work for the constituents. but as a second jobs, mean, as other half jobs, i mean, as my other half said, just it does depend what the job this extraordinary sting with from south korea i mean how they couldn't it's easy with hindsight i wasn't there but they didn't realise. i mean and for them so coolly . the minute for them so coolly. the minute matt hancock was asked what was your daily rate, but he said £10,000. you think what, eight, £10,000. you think what, eight, £10,000 a day, but know i don't really begrudge them for trying to get as much money as they can for something because that's the deal for something because that's the deal. someone says, how much do you want? then you're going to say than you'd normally say more than you'd normally expect you just do expect to try and you just do that. think that's natural that. i think that's natural thing. someone said to me, i mean, that's a pretty whopping amount self—worth. amount of self—worth. yeah, exactly. only exactly. mean. but it's only said much do you want said to me, how much do you want to would about what i to do. would think about what i would normally and then try and or maybe trouble it to. if or maybe even trouble it to. if they i mean they might they say yes, i mean they might say but point is he

say yes. but the point is he hasn't done anything wrong but should to should they even be allowed to go to that. i don't see why they should not a case for why should not make a case for why they should potentially. they may have five years of may only have five years of employment, my employment, so let me finish my case come back to case and then can come back to me. five years at £84,000 me. so five years at £84,000 a yeah me. so five years at £84,000 a year. so good. so good. it was like, what? they do the like, okay, so what? they do the job well, they'll have no it depends. the seat is well you know somebody you work your socks off and if your seat is a marginal you're out with the tide . honestly, after five tide. honestly, after five years, what do you do you don't get any parachute payments like a premier league club does when they down to the top you get a resettlement. it's not like i'm like just to stop with like i'm just going to stop with that point line because. i know you're going to do a list, so i might forget but look, if i might forget it. but look, if i spend job that is a spend years in any job that is a good thing that i even spend five years. if i can get a guaranteed job, will give me five years. i look on that differently i'm differently as well until i'm lucky. are blessed on lucky. so they are blessed on they are blessed know that they are blessed to know that they've least five years. they've got at least five years. none of the people are people

who work in normal day jobs have that be that guarantee that they'll be in space for years. in that space for five years. you're with you're comparing apples with oranges. because i'm not comparing i'll comparing apples. then i'll be the presenter. and it's not the tv presenter. and it's not always. yes, no, no , it's not. always. yes, no, no, it's not. because sometimes get full because sometimes we get full time in tv. so don't know time jobs in tv. so i don't know where been, but the point where you've been, but the point is you're given five is that if you're given five years of any job, then that is a good guarantee . most jobs good guarantee. most jobs couldn't guarantee you that that's point, not what job you're doing, job. me you're doing, what job. give me anotherjob. guarantee is you that you'll five in that you'll be five years in that you'll be five years in that employment at the bbc as a staffer , there's 22,000 of. all staffer, there's 22,000 of. all right let's give you another one. yeah. go to a nurse and anyone who works for a public organisation that specific job they in specific . gary they in that specific. gary lineker well he was with me lineker yeah well he was with me so you go. give me any so there you go. so give me any more. they're that jobs more. they're all that many jobs where you're guaranteed at least that can stay sort of be that you can stay sort of be there for five years. it's a question of degree isn't it. i mean example somebody mean four example if somebody neal quoted again is a dentist, what is wrong with them spending and also a steven pounds said

they should be spending 100% of their time nobody has to spend 100% of their time doing their job they're asleep quite a lot of the they're allowed to of the time. they're allowed to have time. allowed have free time. they're allowed to own so they to have their own time. so they can use some of that. what otherwise they might be doing going or whatever going out clubbing or whatever they point. just they may ask a point. okay. just to back to examples a more to go back to examples of a more stable , what job can you you stable, what job can you you being gotten rid of after five years because surely if you're going to get the boot after five years, it's because you're underperforming. i used to be a chef. chefs, that's a trend they got of you because . you had got rid of you because. you had to stop it. stop chef is a chef is a translatable. motor food gone. is a translatable. motor food gone . chef okay. basically, you gone. chef okay. basically, you don't get sacked being a chef unless you start pilfering . so unless you start pilfering. so you leave of your own accord . you leave of your own accord. now, what's different to your five year question? you look, you know, there could be many reasons why if you do something bad, you people removed a job. if you do something bad as an mp, could job. the fact mp, you could be a job. the fact is seeing five days is you're seeing five days knowing you've got years on

knowing you've got five years on a job is a negative thing and i don't think it's a positive. most don't that most people don't that knowledge. so these guys have a guaranteed years in the guaranteed five years in the job. the floor. it's job. that's on the floor. it's not come with not bad. the benefits come with it. they've lost the it. i'm they've lost the opportunity do something opportunity to do something else which continued out which would have continued out of you don't know that of a job. you don't know that don't know that what have you job you could lose the job you do you could lose the ability that thing in five ability to do that thing in five years. you've years. be thankful that you've got years guarantee well years. be thankful that you've got i years guarantee well years. be thankful that you've got i don't rs guarantee well years. be thankful that you've got i don't knowrrantee well years. be thankful that you've got i don't know howee well years. be thankful that you've got i don't know how long ll years. be thankful that you've got i don't know how long he's how i don't know how long he's beenin how i don't know how long he's been in but matt hancock is only come from from until the come from from now until the next because he's out next election because he's out on his. in way you might on his. so in a way you might said of course he's going to be lining pockets like doing the jungle kwasi jungle etc. etc. the that kwasi kwarteng was briefly kwarteng who was briefly chancellor, quite so quick chancellor, was quite so quick to and got to accept 10,000 a day and got to accept 10,000 a day and got to do it though. well, to do with it though. well, i just would have expected that. i don't know. i just was wrong. i wasn't. look i was just shocked when i saw matt hancock that line i was i thought, crikey line up. i was i thought, crikey kwasi know, kwasi kwarteng. but, you know, it's terribly these sting operations on all the operations they go on all the time were subject a sting time we were subject to a sting operation i got a letter operation once i got a letter o'neal got a in the post o'neal got a letter in the post which dear hamilton ,

which said, dear mr. hamilton, we're sorry about the we're terribly sorry about the thing you ordered. we haven't been able to deliver. so here's a cheque for £65 now. neil easily have thought that i'd ordered something fizzy like he could have just banked it i could have just banked it i could have just banked it i could have got the letter said . could have got the letter said. oh i thought something neil we didn't i said i don't know what this is about as some mr. i wrote back to them long before email all right but turned the cheque and i said there's been some now. but some mistake done now. yeah but i've discovered i've subsequently discovered they'd whole load i've subsequently discovered th

think that they be all well, i could do another job here. i can could do anotherjob here. i can make a bit more money then i want capitalise on being an want to capitalise on being an mp. i don't agree. let us when she that know you get she said that you know you get the people if you paid the the best people if you paid the best that's not best money think that's not true. very difficult not true. it's very difficult not really if want really about money. if you want to do something passionate about it. a lot of people would probably passionate things without paid. and that i without being paid. and that i think but show think is reality. but the show is you your is nothing without you and your views. welcome our great views. let's welcome our great british opportunity british voices the opportunity to the show and tell us to be on the show and tell us what they think about this topic to discuss. haven't to discuss. they haven't seen dan, so we dan, brian for a while, so we get to beverley in yorkshire, yorkshire yeah, i know beverley. hello, not hello, dad. you neil. is he not wearing we'll find. is he wearing a hat? we'll find. is he wearing a hat? we'll find. is he wearing dan he's a he's wearing a hat. dan he's a he's vanished. there is , he's wearing vanished. there is, he's wearing a hat. he's that i done. what do think then. should politicians be allowed to have a second job. yes in a word, yes but i agree with christine . i want to add with christine. i want to add that it's two sides of the same coin . you have those employees coin. you have those employees who diligent and they enjoy

doing their job and they are , doing their job and they are, you know, trustworthy and they want to make better. and i think it's important if they're able to have another job, they've got one foot in the real world and but then you've got the other type of who corrupt and are type of mps who corrupt and are in it for themselves and for personal . and they are the ones personal. and they are the ones that show themselves up, like accepting a job for £10,000 a day and all finding themselves on on lots of boards of huge that they own shares in right before the shares increase in value you know, because got inside information this there's two sides of the same coin it's difficult to legislate . for one difficult to legislate. for one thing when there's two types of variables . well i mean, look, variables. well i mean, look, first of all, those who accepted the £10,000, well, it didn't do anything wrong. that's not they weren't corrupt they didn't do anything wrong. they were allowed that. but it's not allowed to do that. but it's not the same coin. they're not

split. the difference and say no to everybody . dan, you to everybody. dan, thank you very lovely you very much. lovely thought you that's dan brian. he's a great british voice there beverley british voice there in beverley in yorkshire. well in east yorkshire. well well some of have sent some and i some of you have sent some and i thought was quite an thought this one was quite an interesting actually. but interesting one actually. but i can't of my computer, can't get off of my computer, can't get off of my computer, can't remember password . it's can't remember my password. it's i love danny . yeah, that works i love danny. yeah, that works actually. yeah, it does. it isn't that juliet . actually. yeah, it does. it isn't that juliet. non. i worked as waitress in the house of parliament restaurant in 1998. michelin star restaurant three course meal by chopsticks subsidised a three course meal served the menu. it was under £7 in total, roughly . so it's not in total, roughly. so it's not just a salad that's subsidised in the restaurants and bars as well . well, you're with me. i've well. well, you're with me. i've done a quid . this is tv news on done a quid. this is tv news on tv and on digital radio . after tv and on digital radio. after the break, it's world view . i'll the break, it's world view. i'll be joined by political commentator danny and host of the politics podcast, paul delbridge , to discuss the top delbridge, to discuss the top stories from around the globe we'll about former we'll be talking about former president trump. he held his

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it's just coming up to 6 minutes to 5:00. this is good news on tv, online and on radio. i'm a aquarian. it's time for worldview president putin said that he will stay in tactical nuclear weapons in neighbouring to send a warning to nato over their involvement in. now this comes after the accused after accused the west of sending weapons with components to ukraine. well joining me to discuss energy here is russian and political commentator danny armstrong in russian. i am not a company for the right amount. he thought he was sitting on an object to see a lot of people . i object to see a lot of people. i thought that i'm not watching. i

hope.i thought that i'm not watching. i hope. i really hope so. what's going on then? what's happening with this? because it seems a bit of a scary thing now that he is a scare boat tactic to worry the west and they do and the people in ukraine. well well he certainly is sending message to the that's what putin the west that's what putin actually to send actually he needs to send a message the collective west. message to the collective west. this was after the said . it this was after the uk said. it would depleted uranium would provide depleted uranium munitions to ukraine. now munitions loans to ukraine. now the thing about those kind of weapons they're not capable of causing nuclear reaction, but causing a nuclear reaction, but what they do is they can pierce they're basically made to combat tanks. russia sergei lavrov was the foreign minister said this is a step towards an acceleration of escalation . and acceleration of escalation. and so it's seen in russia as a step towards arming ukraine with nuclear warheads. now putin said that this would precipitate a reaction from russia and that action came when he said he would be building a nuclear facility for the storage of nuclear weapons in belarus . he

nuclear weapons in belarus. he says it's upon the request of . says it's upon the request of. belarusian president alexander , belarusian president alexander, who is a very close ally of president putin and russia, have always had a close working relationship. they're seen as one entity rather much like . the one entity rather much like. the us and nato . one entity rather much like. the us and nato. this will be from july the first. they will finish the these these special stories it is sending strong message to the collective west that if you do meddle in and if it's anything or anywhere near nuclear weapons, russia will it's not going to break any non—proliferation that stops spread of weapons of mass destruction , nuclear weapons . destruction, nuclear weapons. but it is, of course , one of but it is, of course, one of those things where it's a kind of for tat. but the west has done something now russia's reacted and this is the message they sending to the west is be worrying. then putin met with xi jinping. said that right. jinping. i said that right. she's seizing thing, seizing almost, almost anything . yeah, almost, almost anything. yeah, well, it's not a russian name, so i struggle it as well. but jingping did with putin in

moscow was a meeting of two superpowers, two two of the main sort of allies throughout this military operation, as it's called in this war and this invasion .jinping called putin invasion. jinping called putin a dear friend . this was something dear friend. this was something that was felt rather in america, especially those who are sceptical of providing aid to ukraine, they said that basic see these two united powers and america is losing a lot of ground on the geopolitical stage. but yeah, there was a big, big meeting with jinping and putin rather are the significant. well thank you very much , danny. don armstrong is much, danny. don armstrong is a russian commentator. right. let's travel over to america let's have a chat with the host of the people podcast. do you trust him that yeah. it's quite tricky. i pulled godrich i pull talk to me what's going on now you got to there's a trump rally ihear you got to there's a trump rally i hear trump started his big rallies of the 2024 season yesterday in waco texas and it's

drawing a of criticism because they think it's insensitive of a lot of his critics think it's insensitive because it is 30 is pretty much the day that the siege with the branch davidians took place. so some people are trying to attach trump to some symbolism of this anti—government siege 30 years ago but it's actually much more mundane than that. in a year's it's going to be the first caucusis it's going to be the first caucus is in texas. this is waco, texas. and then the primary in march. so he's getting in early he's had little he declared in november. he's had some rallies, but they've been very, very small. this was the big open air event, more traditional that we got used to with these previous campaigns . with these previous campaigns. so, yeah, waco kicked off yesterday. thousands of people came for 4 hours to get in. there's a typical old massive a massive trump rally and trump arriving trump force one, which is what he's now renamed his plane . the new upholstery, the plane. the new upholstery, the new livery trump force one

arrived and there wasn't a dry eye in the house. no it was it was a very good performance i have to say, i look, i am biased, obviously , but he was biased, obviously, but he was back on form. i have to say, because we've met a couple of times on this and talked about him and seemed bit tired him and he seemed a bit tired but on cracking form but he was on cracking form yesterday say. and any yesterday i have to say. and any doubt about russia can be assuaged now because , he has assuaged now because, he has said he thinks is said that he thinks russia is going well, and very going to win. well, and very briefly, says i am the most briefly, he says i am the most innocent american man. you've got about 20 seconds. what was that about ? well, he he's that about? well, he he's actually got some he's got she got some of this he probably is the most innocent american man, because if 40 years the american and criminal justice systems can't lay a glove him, he probably is more innocent than . probably is more innocent than. the rest of us who honestly can up with that kind of scrutiny and not end up in. and can you give us a quick update on the storm as well? we haven't got long because what a cut to the news but yeah tragedy in mississippi, 25 dead, a terrible storm. declared an

storm. biden has declared an emergency there's been 25 dead in sadly, one in mississippi. sadly, one in neighbouring . there was neighbouring alabama. there was a tornado on the ground for one houn a tornado on the ground for one hour, a whole of a tornado hour, a whole hour of a tornado tearing through community. hour, a whole hour of a tornado teardevastating community. hour, a whole hour of a tornado teardevastating and community. hour, a whole hour of a tornado teardevastating and thoughtsty. it's devastating and thoughts can only be with the families . can only be with the families. 25 that terrible at least there's been an emergency declared aid is winning it's way down to that region but you know you have vans . there's one you have vans. there's one terrible story about a van being dropped on a house. i mean, this is the kind of power in these storms we're just not used to in the uk. but yes, frankly to common. well, listen, paul, thank you so much. this gb news more to come the next hour . more to come the next hour. it's just going 5:00. i'm nana akua. we're live tv online and on digital radio . the next hour, on digital radio. the next hour, me and my panel, we'll be taking on some of the big topics, hitting the headlines now. in just a moment. i'll be by a

mystery celebrity guest who is fresh out of alan sugar's boardroom. stay tuned for the great british debate this hour. i'm asking, should more i'm asking, should get more school, more before inspections. but first, let's get your latest news headlines . fast approaching news headlines. fast approaching 5:01. here's the latest from the gb news room. tensions have heightened between russia and ukraine with state media alleging that a blast in the country's tula region was caused by a ukrainian drone packed with explosives. two people were reportedly injured . they were reportedly injured. they were struck by shrapnel. whether ukraine has not claimed responsibility for, the alleged attack, it follows pleas . the attack, it follows pleas. the european union for russia to halt the stationing of nuclear weapons in belarus. kyiv foreign ministry has called the decision provocateur and is calling for a session . the un security council session. the un security council , the us president, declared a state of emergency in mississippi after a tornado

killed at least 26 people. the twister swept through the state and into alabama, cutting a path of destruction and 170 miles long. around 11,000 residents there are still power. they say there are still power. they say there was no safe place to hide . this is the worst i have ever. this is . i have so many family this is. i have so many family members, friends memories that has been destroyed . it's like has been destroyed. it's like a freight train that comes through . they thought it lasted 30 minutes. it was 20 seconds. one of the homeowners said they finally woke up and they looked up and they thought they were dead. up and they thought they were dead . well, back offenders who dead. well, back offenders who commit anti—social behaviour will be forced to clean their communities as part of the prime minister's new immediate justice scheme. under the plans be announced tomorrow, local will be given new powers quickly and visibly punish those who spray

graffiti or commit other vandalism. we'll have to fix the damage within 48 hours. all the penalties include picking up litter, washing police cars or doing unpaid work in shops . doing unpaid work in shops. well, it's part of the crackdown . the government has also announced a ban on the sale of laughing gas. levelling up secretary michael gove told broadcasters nitrous canisters are helping to fuel behaviour and turning public spaces into drug taking arenas . labour is drug taking arenas. labour is establishing a of the bbc's operations to look at the future of the broadcaster . it follows of the broadcaster. it follows controversy over gary lineker suspension from of the day and bbc chairman richard sharpe helping boris to secure an £800,000 loan. labour says the review will assess how to ensure the future sustainability of the pubuc the future sustainability of the public funded broadcaster . public funded broadcaster. scottish labour is warning the

incoming snp leader to clear out the rot within their party. deputy jackie baillie is calling on the future first minister to be more open and. it's after figures that the snp had lost 30,000 members in just over a yeah 30,000 members in just over a year. a figure it had denied. leadership candidates humza yousaf kate forbes and ash regan will find out tomorrow who will become next leader . matt hancock become next leader. matt hancock and kwasi kwarteng have been caught up in a sting operation , caught up in a sting operation, quoting thousands of pounds to consult for a non—existent company. two former cabinet ministers were by a fake south korean firm set up by campaign group led by donkeys. mr. hancock told them his daily would be £10,000, whilst mr. kwarteng said he would expect to be paid a similar amount every month . mps are allowed to seek month. mps are allowed to seek employment outside of parliament and there is no accusation of

any . england and there is no accusation of any. england is facing ukraine now in the european qualifiers , now in the european qualifiers, manager gareth southgate has warned players there's no room for sentiment . once they get for sentiment. once they get onto the pitch . bfa has given onto the pitch. bfa has given 1000 free tickets to ukrainian refugees and their british hosts to attend the game . england to attend the game. england midfielder phil foden is missing the match after undergoing surgery to remove his appendix. ukrainian fans told us that believe in their team . i believe believe in their team. i believe we are going to win and i believe we are going to win the war and we are going to come back home. thank you very much for this free ticket. we will support, of course , all the team support, of course, all the team and hope you have enough. we win in our week to win in our victory in the world. okay, this is gb news will bring you more as it happens and let's back to nana.

good afternoon is fast approaching 6 minutes after 5:00. this is gb news on tv onune 5:00. this is gb news on tv online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua and for the next hour, me and my will be taking on some of the big topics hitting the headunes of the big topics hitting the headlines right now. this show is all about opinion it's mine sense and of course, it's yours . we'll be debating, discussing at will disagree, but at times we will disagree, but no will cancelled . no one will be cancelled. joining me today is broadcaster author christine hamilton and broadcaster and journalist danny kelly. still to come, each sunday at five. i'm joined by celebrity, a former mp or someone who is an extremely interesting career and take a look at life after the job we talk highs, lows , lessons talk highs, lows, lessons learned and what comes next on outside i'll be joined outside and today i'll be joined by a very special guest now she made the final five in the latest season of the apprentice wearing bold , bright colours. wearing bold, bright colours. now a business plan was to supply hair extensions, which, as you know i love, i wear my

wings the time you don't know what i look like without to salons around the country. she's also tips to be on love. why mystery guest will here in a mystery guest will be here in a moment. can you think she and then for the great british debate hour i'm asking should all no all ofsted infections have no warning? currently schools warning? now, currently schools can be inspected within a day's nofice can be inspected within a day's notice and in some cases just 15 minutes beforehand. but earlier yean minutes beforehand. but earlier year, a private school teacher took her own life after ofsted downgraded her school, calling into question whether the entire system needs approval . some of system needs approval. some of your thoughts email gbviews@gbnews.uk or . tweet me . gbviews@gbnews.uk or. tweet me. gb news. coming up to, 8 minutes after 5:00 now she's fresh out of law took . us boardroom of law took. us boardroom following the 17th season of the apprentice . love that show known apprentice. love that show known for colourful suits and marketing skills . the 26 year marketing skills. the 26 year old salon owner brought heaps of personality to screens each week. now, having started her business as a teenager she was a

fan favourite the competition but it was an interview with baroness karren brady in the semi—finals that led to a teary end to her 12 week business journey, according the sun, she was also lined up for love island this year and got through the audition stages in a bid to make a name for herself. now, with over 24,000 followers on instagram, she called me . she's instagram, she called me. she's definitely making a name herself now. i'm delighted to be joined by danny danny thank by danny donovan. danny thank you for having me . it's you for having me. it's a pleasure. so, danny, talk me then. unfortunately, you didn't make it to the end, but you were there in the final five. what was all experience like for you? i'm it was great about it. i mean, it was an emotional rollercoaster . there was highs, rollercoaster. there was highs, there was lows . and i think you there was lows. and i think you saw that on the show. if you are and it was i really had a positive experi. i think i learnt a lot myself . i think i learnt a lot myself. i think i learnt a lot myself. i think i learnt a lot myself. i think i learnt a new skills . most learnt a new skills. most importantly, i just had a laugh so yeah, for me it was good experience. but sometimes when people see candidates on the

apprentice, i know when i see i want to know a little bit about their own upbringing and child as a so tell me a bit about yourself, something that they don't know about you that you haven't said on the apprentice and mean, started my and so, i mean, started my business a very age business at a very young age after dad gave me £300. do after my dad gave me £300. do you have a hair extension ? i you have a hair extension? i left sixth form. i thought i want to go to university. i have noidea want to go to university. i have no idea of what i want to do and l, no idea of what i want to do and i, my mom always said to me, no, don't go, don't do hair, don't don't go, don't do hair, don't do beauty. and i thought, no, i just want to do it. i did a course and i actually started doing it from my mum shed, which was actually also my bedroom. but time i and i used to but at the time i and i used to literally like like literally it was like it's like a and i need to use a cabin thing and i need to use road from my bed to my dressing table, which i turned into like basically little salon. and basically a little salon. and it just from to just went from strength to strength and then when i was 19, i actually the opportunity i actually had the opportunity take premises. and think take on a premises. and i think the i thought, did i? the time i just thought, did i? i've got nothing to lose here. i'm going to go for no i'm going to go for i've got no real responsibility. it all

real responsibility. if it all goes that badly, then i'm not going lose anything. and going to lose anything. and i just for it and it's just just went for it and it's just gone from then really. gone from strength then really. so if it's so then if it's such a successful business, why bother the don't the apprentice when you don't need so think what it was. need it? so think what it was. the business that actually the business that i actually proposed, and selling proposed, the buying and selling of this something of hair and this is something that of new, knew to that i was kind of new, knew to be something i wanted to go into. but requires lot of into. but it requires lot of cashflow. it requires a lot initial investment to actually buy the hair buy it and keep the hair installed. obviously, installed. and obviously, manufacturing is not something that actual expert in that i am an actual expert in and thought lord sugar and i thought lord sugar obviously so thought it obviously is. so i thought it would a good would be quite a good partnership and i thought together we could really really push business, it push the business, but where it went though, because when push the business, but where it wen got though, because when push the business, but where it wen got into though, because when push the business, but where it wen got into boardroom,ause when push the business, but where it wen got into boardroom, into when push the business, but where it wen got into boardroom, into the n you got into boardroom, into the sort interview karen and you sort of interview karen and you would a £250,000 would have got a £250,000 investment, it was investment, how much of it was going be put on hair? because going to be put on hair? because it would be much less? well, i know. i've had brian , but you know. i've had brian, but you know. i've had brian, but you know what, £210,000, it sounds a lot of money to spend on hair. if you think it's probably about £500 per person per head to hair in some cases. so actually it's only really like buying 42

units. so i mean, i know some people would think that's ridiculous, but it's not really hair is such an expensive product, so what do you mean by hair then? do you mean fake hair? do you mean and what would hair then? do you mean fake hair doo you mean and what would hair then? do you mean fake hairdo withr mean and what would hair then? do you mean fake hairdo with that?n and what would hair then? do you mean fake hairdo with that? you're what would hair then? do you mean fake hairdo with that? you're going'ould you do with that? you're going to a wig. yes. so it's to make a wig. yes. so it's human hair extensions. what human hair extensions. and what i to we actually would make i want to we actually would make them into nano types and weft and we would sell them obviously from to other from our website to other salons. them our salons. we would use them in our own because obviously own salon because we obviously buy second hand sorry, buy from the second hand sorry, a third and we buy them a third hand and we buy them from supplier basically. from another supplier basically. and obviously a and obviously we have a middleman. the middleman. we don't make the money. just wanted to money. so i just wanted to cut out the middleman, do it myself, but a lot to take on too. but it was a lot to take on too. you must be looking at my work thinking that is one bad way, is a really nice a lovely colour, really nice because i want talk you because i want to talk to you after. i could be your your after. yes, i could be your your wig model. yes. yeah so you wouldn't did you manage? were in the boardroom much because you you me as you did pretty well . you me as you did pretty well. you know, i surprised myself to be honest and i think one thing i did do was stay true to myself

and i think that's why i didn't end up the boardroom too much, because i so like when you do things that you you you you do it with and you do it it with intention and you do it kind because genuinely kind of because you genuinely believe a lot easier believe in it. it's a lot easier to yourself. and i think to back yourself. and i think you don't really come unstuck as much. but i think i was in the boardroom. the bottom three might twice, three times, but might be twice, three times, but a lot more towards end. not really the start. yeah but it really at the start. yeah but it gets, gets harder gets, it gets a lot harder towards end. does what towards the end. what does what did think was hardest thing. did you think was hardest thing. i'll you i think when i'll tell you what i think when i'll tell you what i think when i watch, i think, why don't we just a team just win just act as a team just win first and then you don't go in the boardroom. that seemed the boardroom. but that seemed be and scrapping be the scrabbling and scrapping all i think a lot all the time. i think it's a lot of people trying to kind of, you know, how for easy trying get know, how for easy trying to get a you have an idea a job done and you have an idea there's other people trying to buy yes, you want to buy a new so, yes, you want to work as a team, but also you want your ideas to be heard. and obviously situation obviously in a situation where there's of big characters there's a lot of big characters who all want the same as you. so i think you do to sort of squabble, to get your voice in that situation. and think

that situation. and do you think that situation. and do you think that you do do you think that because surprised because you said you surprised with you did, but if with how well you did, but if you were back on it, you were to look back on it, what you about what what would you change about what you did? do you know what? i wouldn't anything about wouldn't change anything about the yes. i was the 210 grams. so yes. i was just to say the actual just going to say the actual process, i wouldn't change anything would anything but what i would definitely is make definitely have done is make sure business was sure that my business plan was absolutely bullet proof, because if i thought it was going be if i thought it was going to be baroness i would baroness brady's hands, i would have wanted it to what did have wanted it to be. what did say because a lot say to you? what? because a lot of it we don't get to see what she said. what it wasn't she said. so what it wasn't there because put a of there because she put a lot of it on cutting yeah. she it on cutting room. yeah. she didn't to me that didn't just say to me that you've hard to be you've worked so hard to be here. why did you not put more attention because attention into it. because it was gaps that. was there was gaps in that. there figures that just there was some figures that just didn't so just didn't make sense. so she just said like, have you said to me, like, why have you messed and why messed up basically? and why didn't you believe in yourself? just went there just because you went in there quite nervous, because you'd heard happened other heard what happened to the other one heard what happened to the other ostill did it. yeah, do. i still did it. yeah, i do. messed up. i she was messed up. i think she was thinking in my head karen. i just kind of thought, why did i take one? what did do? take that one? what did she do? did just throw at

did she did she just throw at me? are like? me? like, what are they like? then them? they seem then to them? because they seem quite friendly, but then are they really? when are they friendly really? when are they friendly really? when are they they to the they sort of and they are to the point. i would that point. but i would say that they're they they're very, very fair. they know goes know everything that goes on they the ins and outs. no they know the ins and outs. no decisions are made without being informed. really informed. and i really appreciate be honest. appreciate that to be honest. i always felt like it was very, very fair. but if it been apprentice, might have been apprentice, it might have been love island. so is a very love island. so this is a very funny story because i actually when i read this myself, because made it out, you know what the media's it's to look media's it's been made to look like that i chose between the apprentice love island this year we're . not actually that's not we're. not actually that's not the i think love was i was the case i think love was i was supposed to do that probably about or years ago. so about four or five years ago. so it definitely definitely wasn't a thing, although the a recent thing, although the press just tried to twist press have just tried to twist it to a good story, it think to make a good story, but also you've been to but also you've been trying to push afford be you get so push us afford to be you get so you can push your business right? yeah exactly. and i think that's kind of the that's what i kind of went the show my show for exposure for my business. is competitive business. it is competitive nowadays. order to nowadays. i think in order to get business there, you get your business out there, you do exposure as

do need as much exposure as possible. cut it just on possible. it cut it just post on instagram on facebook instagram or posting on facebook or advertising anymore. do or advertising anymore. you do need that. that extra just need to do that. that extra just to push your business that bit. so what going to do now? so what are you going to do now? because you didn't get the investment but has it opened doors suddenly been doors and have you suddenly been given platform given a sort of platform to push forward ? and i suppose it has of forward? and i suppose it has of given bit of a platform, but given a bit of a platform, but that's really what i'm interested think what interested in. i think what i what have taken from what i really have taken from that show is a process is actually the skills i've learnt. you learn. simon different things that i would never have known. just running a business from the age of 19. you just sort go along with things and essentially make it up as you go along learn your along and learn from your mistakes. think going mistakes. but i think going on there a about there i learnt a lot about branding, manufacturing there i learnt a lot about brarprocess manufacturing there i learnt a lot about brarprocess the manufacturing there i learnt a lot about brarprocess the in nanufacturing there i learnt a lot about brarprocess the in orderacturing there i learnt a lot about brarprocess the in order touring there i learnt a lot about brarprocess the in order to you the process the in order to you need to put things in to make them actually took a them happen so i actually took a lot from the shop and i definitely it's given that definitely it's given me that focus that i it's given me that drive surrounded by those drive being surrounded by those people knowing that you can people and knowing that you can go those things. i think go and get those things. i think it's to just go and it's pushed me to just go and them. so what are you going to do next? so since leaving the

show, i decided, okay, bye . a show, i decided, okay, bye. a study in hair is difficult at the moment it's very competitive. what did is competitive. so what did is i actually just got head down and created a range of bacon cruelty free hair care products , free hair care products, specially formulated for hair because i some of that was a of a gap in the market for products specific suited for hair extensions . when we have clients extensions. when we have clients come have a new they'd extensions. when we have clients corlike have a new they'd extensions. when we have clients corlike what have a new they'd extensions. when we have clients corlike what product new they'd extensions. when we have clients corlike what product shouldey'd be like what product should i use? kind of what can i use? what kind of what can i not? so yeah , that's what i've not? so yeah, that's what i've basically launched now and i've just been selling for my website. i'd really love to push to get them into some bigger retailers. so that's definitely the route going take the route i'm going to take for the route i'm going to take for the minute. maybe it is the minute. oh good. maybe it is a okay. yeah was the months a wig. okay. yeah was the months i wasn't going to go pop in. yeah yeah exactly is no point good. that's a good idea actually i wish you all the best with and i'm i'm glad that you sort of came away from the process doing something positive. yes. okay. we'll talk the wicked get hold of the wicked people get hold of these things. yeah want these things. things. yeah want so. sell my so. yes. so i sell these my website, hyphen website, it's my main hyphen credit uk . so all of them are

credit uk. so all of them are available on their also do have available on their also do have a shop in sawbridgeworth in hertfordshire . people can come hertfordshire. people can come down and buy them . it's just down and buy them. it's just like a walk . retail. yeah. so like a walk. retail. yeah. so i mean i would love to have them in both superdrug everywhere like that. so that is definitely what i'm going to look to try and do now. but i think it stuff just obviously is all new to me. i've come from doing hair and got the creativity and the passion, it's just kind of passion, but it's just kind of really there really pushing it out there and sort seeing the sort of seeing where the business go when it's given me the learn to the skills to learn how to pitch. yes . know pitch. definitely, yes. know what of off course do you what image of off course do you mind me being more confident if it wasn't natural? something somewhere that i don't? maybe might. they'll remember me, won't they? when listen, it's been such a pleasure talking to you, thank you so for you, danny thank you so much for coming thank you for coming to see me. thank you for me. donovan, you on to the me. danny donovan, you on to the final in apprentice? final five in the apprentice? she's , so she'll be she's a superstar, so she'll be doing well. well, doing very, very well. well, coming up, it the coming up, though, it is the great this hour. great british debate this hour. and should all and i'm asking, should all inspections have no warning now currently schools can be

inspected within two days. nofice inspected within two days. notice the this year, a primary school headteacher took her own life after ofsted downgraded her school critics demanding school and now critics demanding a system overhaul . i can assure a system overhaul. i can assure them .

22 minutes after 5:00, this is gb views on tv, online and on digital radio. we are the people's channel. i'm nana akua. and it's time the great british debate this out. and i'm asking should all inspections should all ofsted inspections have no warning. now the way it works is currently schools can be inspected within two days nofice be inspected within two days notice and in some cases but just 15 minutes beforehand. earlier very sad story earlier this very sad story promised a teacher, head teacher in redding , ruth perry, took her in redding, ruth perry, took her own life . ofsted downgraded her own life. ofsted downgraded her school from outstanding to inadequate . the current one word inadequate. the current one word grading system has for levels outstanding good requires

improvement and inadequate and often chief inspector has signalled that this system be scrapped. the comments after ruth perry's sister spoke out against the system earlier this week calling on parents to say no to the horrible, inaccurate and dangerous labelling of schools and head . so for the schools and head. so for the great british debate this hour, i'm asking, should all that ofsted inspections have warning? well me to discuss that is dennis mcshane, minister of state for europe and labour mp and also mark lehane, a former head teacher. mark, i'm going to come to you. i want to get a sort of handle on the ofsted side of things because i know obviously you you've worked in schools. taught in schools. schools. you taught in schools. what what's the kind of procedure normally ofsted procedure normally with ofsted with of when they with all the sort of when they come and inspect ? that's so at come and inspect? that's so at the moment, if it's a routine inspection, typically head teacher of the school will get a call from the day before inspectors are due to arrive . inspectors are due to arrive. normally it's in the morning of day before they arrive and. the

inspectors would talk the head teacher and their senior team through what they can to look at what they're expecting to want to get on with they . now to get on with when they. now ofsted can , if as you said, come ofsted can, if as you said, come in without any notice, just lock up one morning at school was about to start if they've got particular concerns if they think particular think there's a particular safety safeguarding , then safety or safeguarding, then obviously they might need to turn without people turn up without giving people warnings look going warnings so they can look going on there. now, when i started teaching ago, was teaching 20 years ago, it was complete different. you used to get three months before get three months notice before a routine inspection. now lots of people said that actually that added more to people because you spent whole about three spent the whole about three months worrying about months run up worrying about what ofsted going to say and preparing were preparing for it. so there were good why people to a 24 good reasons why people to a 24 hour notice inspection regime. no system is perfect . no system no system is perfect. no system is perfect. i think whether you have notice or no notice, people will still worry about it . will still worry about it. that's my shine. what's your thoughts on this whole thoughts on this this whole thing? well all 70 of the families, a poor lady, her own life. but i do think suicide is

something so special that to try converted into a political campaign, i felt myself shivering a little bit . as buck shivering a little bit. as buck said, the previous system wasn't working. labour changed it to make it rather dramatic. and i think most teachers would agree that the standards rose was very hard working teachers under the labour government our state school sector is much much stronger now than it was 20, 25 years ago and this helps to do something that i wish could have an off cop. so we had inspectors arriving , the metropolitan arriving, the metropolitan police. police stations unannounced and just see what the heck was going on. i mean, it's a huge state institutions. we've got wonderful teachers. we've got wonderful teachers. we've got wonderful teachers. we've got very good cops , we've got very good cops, police. but they can get things wrong . and you do need abrupt wrong. and you do need abrupt change. maybe you need more than four words. i leave that to bob . good walk taught english, but you can't the words for us, do you? do you think? i mean

obviously somebody taking their own terrible own life is a very terrible thing, but , know, those thing, but, you know, when those things now are the things happen now are the variables as well that'll bring this to a head. so i, you know, i think we can't just say, oh, it's purely that may well it's purely that there may well have been other factors that contributed this. if we sort contributed this. so if we sort of put that aside and think about the actual inspection themselves. you mentioned themselves. and you mentioned that it's more that sometimes it's more stressful knowing that somebody is coming inspect. surely it would be better ofsted would be better if ofsted just inspected without any notes at all and did it that i don't mean to come in there. yeah so , so to come in there. yeah so, so listen, schools know roughly when they're going to be inspected. they know if they're inspected. they know if they're in the window that that's how we tend to talk about it. you don't know exactly when they're going to come, but you which year to come, but you know which year is going to up. is most likely going to work up. so schools thinking about it anyway. an ideal world, anyway. now, in an ideal world, if we're all human, we if we're all super human, we wouldn't worrying about wouldn't be worrying about that. we anything we we wouldn't change anything we would do at all. we would just carry on they broke up, carry on and when they broke up, they we're they broke up. but we're not

superhumans. it's only natural because ofsted stakes because ofsted is so high stakes to think about that and worry about it my hunch is a no inspection. just woke up the inspection. i just woke up the morning. there were practical reasons why not so reasons why might not be so useful. because the head teacher might not be around key might not be around a. key people school not people in the school might not be loads kids, might be around loads of kids, might be around loads of kids, might be on a school or be out on a school trip or something. you something. now, alison, you might we'll might say that's okay. we'll just inspect to take just have we inspect to take that into account . i think that into account. i think probably the balance in the current system is about right now . the question comes on now then. the question comes on about these judgement. the about these judgement. it's the outstanding requires outstanding good requires improvement inadequate should improvement or inadequate should . that. my worry is . we move from that. my worry is we have tried alternative things in past. there has been talk about labour. if they come in after the next election, move in to call a approach. it to what they call a approach. it sounds great when you drill into the detail is quite hard do the detail is quite hard to do actually. and also there are actually. and also there are actually fewer pressure points on schools days and there were even just a few years. it used to until about 28, 2019. if to be until about 28, 2019. if your , sats or gcse were your schools, sats or gcse were a—level were below a certain level , you could expect to get

level, you could expect to get into trouble your school could be taken over and given to other people run. of the people to run. one of the reasons why your state so high stakes because is the stakes now is because is the only thing that can trigger people coming into your people coming into taking your school . so maybe we to school over. so maybe we need to look spreading the burden. so look at spreading the burden. so it's just ofsted it is it's not just an ofsted it is once again looking at how wokeism performing in that school. be clear, no school. but let's be clear, no approach is going to perfect approach is going to be perfect and whatever we have, because it will probably high stakes, because kids education, safety is important. the teaching profession will be nervous about it. that's just how is. we'll it. that's just how it is. we'll also it could end up with because before used to be a, b, c, because before used to be a, b, c, d, e and you and n now back then it became nine, eight, seven, six, five, four, three, two, one. that was one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine. and you could literally layers , layers literally have layers, layers and levels then and layers of levels and then it makes in between makes levels in between more insignificant and it of diminishes denniswhat's diminishes it. dennis what's your thoughts by so very much for interview , don, i for this interview, don, if i may say as i think mark may say so, as i think mark should be picked up, so to

speak, bridget phillips . speak, by bridget phillips. linda, shadow education linda, the shadow education secretary i think will be in charge of education index to the end next year and going give end of next year and going give her a paper and some advice on what to do. this is a breath of fresh chairs with an awful lot of emotion, a lot of ofsted bashing , a lot of government of bashing, a lot of government of education, bashing , bashing, a lot of government of education, bashing, v bashing. gavin williamson, you know it's like picking legs off daddy longlegs . like picking legs off daddy longlegs. it's like picking legs off daddy longlegs . it's pointless. he longlegs. it's pointless. he dreadful but i do think you do need as i say, i can think of a few other public services were tough on the sport very little nofice tough on the sport very little notice inspections go from to bottom . if they were implemented bottom. if they were implemented might improve the quality of pubuc might improve the quality of public services country. i would be tempted to agree with that mark you said that one of the problems would be that these schools might not be ready for the inspection terms of the people that available the people that are available at the school. surely because my school. but surely because my daughter she goes to school and

she every time there's daughter she goes to school and she always every time there's daughter she goes to school and she always knowy time there's daughter she goes to school and she always know because 1ere's they always know because everybody's on the best behaviour school changes behaviour the school changes and it anything that they it doesn't anything that they normally do ever. so the whole thing changes and that is the worry isn't it . well i mean worry isn't it. well i mean listen to some extent there's always going to be a change in behaviour isn't there, if someone's to you. i someone's coming to watch you. i mean, i was a teacher mean, know when i was a teacher 20 years ago with my head teacher into my lesson. teacher popped into my lesson. they a different they might a different experience children experience from the children of me that's it me because that's that's how it is the queen the king is you know the queen the king shall now say probably think shall i now say probably think for of fresh for a while smells of fresh paint behaviour paint because people behaviour changes teams approach changes often teams approach experience cutting through experience of cutting through that talking to pupils and that and talking to pupils and staff and parents about . what staff and parents about. what the school is really like on a typical the no inspection is going to be perfect we rely on it doing everything it is just one part of our accountability . one part of our accountability. the most important accountability. you can have in any public service is the accountability to the people benefit from it. the pupils, the parents read, as ben has been talking about, the people interact with the police . so

interact with the police. so there's other ways of keeping our system honest and transparent and doing its best. ofsted have got difficult job. nobody no. what? no, no. chief finishes by their turn as chief inspector , as popular as they inspector, as popular as they were when they started was by definition, they've got to give some difficult truth to people as of their job. that is always for grabs. yeah. can i just quickly ask you very briefly , do quickly ask you very briefly, do the schools get to do a feedback , their inspection today, do they something they can in they have something they can in to say what thought to say what they thought about the want the inspection. well i just want to you to yeah that's it to they you to yeah that's it two actually over 90% of the two and actually over 90% of the schools when they give feedback there's a feedback survey they fill in when get feedback fill in when they get feedback on inspection when on how the inspection when i think it's over 9% say they're happy with grade by what they think and felt think it was fair and they felt that inspectors listened that the inspectors listened to them actual them and so on. the actual figures think boss figures i think my boss bob colvin's the times the colvin's column in the times the sunday today so generally sunday times today so generally speaking, i think they all are doing pretty good job. what we tend to hear is when inspectors haven't right. haven't quite called it right. when been in the press and

when i've been in the press and of obviously know you do of course, obviously know you do hear tragedies, but hear about these tragedies, but you rightly said we've got to be very about directly very careful about directly linking individual tragedies to very careful about directly li broaderdividual tragedies to very careful about directly li broader thing.il tragedies to very careful about directly li broader thing. we agedies to very careful about directly li broader thing. we can'tes to very careful about directly li broader thing. we can't do 0 a broader thing. we can't do that. well, it's really to talk to you. mark lane is a former head teacher and also dennis mcshane, former minister of state for europe , a labour state for europe, a labour mp. thank much . well in a thank you very much. well in a statement , a spokesperson for statement, a spokesperson for the department education said inspections are hugely important as they schools to account for their educational standards, and parents greatly rely on the ratings to give them confidence in choosing the right school for their child. we offer our deep condolences to the family and friends of perry following tragic death and are continuing to provide support to cover some primary difficult primary school at this difficult time. and now, of course, if you're a head teacher you're you're a head teacher and you're feeling anxious feeling stressed or anxious about . you always about ofsted. you can always contact charity contact the charity the samaritans free samaritans will offer free advice support . you can get advice and support. you can get in with call them on in touch with them, call them on 1161, that number 1161, two, three. that number again, 116. one, two, three. let's have a quick look at what

you've been saying with regard to ellie says, i remember to this. ellie says, i remember when the weeks when was at school for the weeks leading ofsted. we did leading up to ofsted. all we did was to go on the was make stuff to go on the walls, and then when they arrive were told to be on our best behaviour. schools behaviour. i don't think schools should have prior warning. we need the warts and all approach . a says john's . i'm not a says john's education, no longer learning about and about the world, life and development. about the development. it's about the league pressure league tables and pressure to perform. it's also about perform. yeah, it's also about diversity, inclusion the diversity, inclusion and all the other stuff as well. so it's all getting bit. andrew says you getting a bit. andrew says you can't everyone can't really judge when everyone is their best behaviour. just is on their best behaviour. just pick day and, go see pick a random day and, go see what's steve sent a what's happening. steve sent a message saying ofsted need a complete overhaul . they are not complete overhaul. they are not fit for purpose . when you're me, fit for purpose. when you're me, i'm done. okay. this is gb news on tv, online and on digital . on on tv, online and on digital. on the way. we'll continue with our great british debate this hour. and i'm asking to do all ofsted inspections. warning inspections. i have no warning to leave the thoughts of my panel author panel broadcaster, author christine hamilton. what's a broadcaster ? journalist antony broadcaster? journalist antony kelly. first, let's get your kelly. but first, let's get your latest news headlines . 5:32. i'm

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her school from outstanding to inadequate . and this week, inadequate. and this week, ofsted chief inspector signalled that this system could be scrapped. so the great british debate this hour, i'm asking what do you think should all ofsted have no at ofsted inspections have no at all. let's see what my panel make of that? joined by make of that? i'm joined by christine also christine hamilton and also danny kelly. christine, i'm going with what do going to start with you. what do you see any you think? i don't see any problem having any problem in not having any warning. i if they give warning. i mean, if they give a week fortnight's warning, week or a fortnight's warning, they're to get everything they're going to get everything in the ofsted to in order. we want the ofsted to see the school as it is on a normal daily basis. so it's desperately sad what happened to this particular head teacher but the safeguarding of children and what i think ofsted does need to change so i'm not in favour of having no warning and having warning what they do need to change i think is these they are just so link between one category and the other is so enormous . and also, as enormous. and also, as i understand it, that ruth perry's school was only downgraded to , school was only downgraded to, inadequate in one category, which was leadership and management. now that's

incredibly important, but she still retained her. whatever the top one is, was outstanding she still retained outstanding in the other categories ? and the other categories? and apparently her stress levels were for the report to come out because . she knew what was going because. she knew what was going to be in it and she was terrified when it became public. and that's what triggered her suicide . but so and that's what triggered her suicide. but so i think and that's what triggered her suicide . but so i think they suicide. but so i think they need to adjust their hugely. but i certainly don't think that they should arrive unannounced . they should arrive unannounced. it all depends. it's like so many these things. it depends on the quality of the insight. and just going back to somebody taking obviously, taking their life. obviously, this very tragic thing, but this is very tragic thing, but we to acknowledge. there we have to acknowledge. there may be factors that may also be other factors that may also be other factors that may resulted in that it's may have resulted in that it's very difficult just it very difficult to just pin it specifically on that thing. specifically on that one thing. dannyi specifically on that one thing. danny i think should be danny i think there should be something of time where you know that an ofsted inspector is coming from journalism. but coming away from journalism. but how much time? i like the guy who'd been retired for 20 years. how old is he? he's very fellow on the panel .

how old is he? he's very fellow on the panel. so i've been retired for 20 years. good afternoon . oh, brilliant. he afternoon. oh, brilliant. he says that you've the same age as you, izzy . older, three months you, izzy. older, three months notice. older than you as well actually. that's nice. you said . well, i don't think it is absurd because that gives you time to ensure you're going to get a great inspection but that doesn't that you're you're doesn't mean that you're you're inadequate and. i think there's a difference i think these teachers do their best if there would be if there have been safeguarding issues, then that could have been raised externally prior externally or internally prior to the onset. the more time you get distressed it is get, the more distressed it is because notice that that's because you notice that that's what . i understand there what happens. i understand there is but the point is that is that, but the point is that if you knew that something was is that, but the point is that if three 1ew that something was is that, but the point is that if three months, something was is that, but the point is that if three months, you ething was is that, but the point is that if three months, you gotng was is that, but the point is that if three months, you got allrvas in three months, you got all this . one as one of the this time. one as one of the emails said, the school follows things the world and make it things of the world and make it look nice just so that one day and you get a false you can and the you get a false you can get i don't get a close. i don't believe that teachers as that those teachers are as unprofessional , but unprofessional as that, but that's who's sending that's somebody who's sending a message daughter even message and my daughter even said that her that when said that her school that when the inspectors come will the inspectors come they will not in the same place away from

i'm in the card game and at our coverage we have an emotive testing facility and those which is the government equivalent of this organisation ofsted, they can be parked outside and remotely locked on to our computer all those a computer and at the end of iolo test they say okay and they just walk through unannounced . the through unannounced. the difference there though is not a car tyre is either legal or it's not legal the ofsted inspectors , mostly all x teachers , , mostly all x teachers, potentially a lot older than teachers currently there. and they may come from a different culture and time where teaching was different . and also that is was different. and also that is open to subjective to that, whereas a bull terrier is either bold or it's not, there's no opinion with those, but the opinion with those, but the opinion nuanced with ofsted is that that's the quality of the inspectors is so and they should be, as you say, in touch with modern teaching methods, apparently in perry school , apparently in perry school, roughly speaking, there was a couple of children in the playground and they were dancing all said inspector as a sexual

fashion. now young kids , they fashion. now young kids, they they dance unaware it's a sexual dance and this was put down, as you know, that there were problems with the sexual education of the children and two kids apparently were fighting in the playground. well kids fight the playground. so she obviously that was all terribly but what do you terribly unfair. but what do you do ? got to have a system, in my do? got to have a system, in my opinion , inspecting schools. and opinion, inspecting schools. and yet it does depend because there's not a robot involved. it does depend on the inspectors being impartial and fair minded. what is true and gwen is actually sent me a message and she well, inspects the she said, well, inspects the inspectors . well, it's a very inspectors. well, it's a very good question . right. well, this good question. right. well, this says without you and says nothing without you and views some of views as welcome some of our great voices their great british voices their opportunity show opportunity to be on the show and they think about and tell what they think about the discussing the topics we're discussing today. i've got three of you. right. let's see we go to first to start with sesame. is there a keynes and what you think keynes and what do you think then no warning then? should there be no warning for inspections ? good for these inspections? good afternoon , anna. yes, it's afternoon, anna. yes, it's really tragic the story of ruth

perry . and i think, therefore as perry. and i think, therefore as you can imagine, it's so for teachers undergoing the ofsted inspection . and what i do think inspection. and what i do think is they should be a warning. i agree with what dani has said . agree with what dani has said. and i listened to an interview by chris holmwood, who's a ceo of a teachers union and also the principal of my children's. of a teachers union and also the principal of my children's . and principal of my children's. and he said that they just get a telephone call the day before and. there's not much time to prepare. and there's a lot of work and preparation that goes in. and it can be very stressful. so i think yes, it's so sad. the story of ruth perry and condolences to, her family. i think they should warnings and what it yeah but the thing is worse is to a warning like you said why should you be having prepare. let's go to john reed then. should be like that. then. it should be like that. anyway, from anyway, he's calling from kidderminster. they want to see the school as it. what do you think, john? well i think we live in a world of bureaucracy gone to be honest . in my

gone mad, to be honest. in my family, i have two of my three daughters are in the teaching profession. one is the head teacher of primary. profession. one is the head teacher of primary . one profession. one is the head teacher of primary. one is a yeah teacher of primary. one is a year. two teacher. i think it quite nervous . ofsted is on the quite nervous. ofsted is on the offer when they're in the window, as they say. i think there should be no warning at all? i think the inspector should just arrive look what is happening day and judge happening on the day and judge it if the not there it accordingly. if the not there that day. well, that must be for a good reason. so don't think there's any harm in the inspection. i do think, though, that the they should be that the they do should be rather more than the does it four levels they've got you know they should a bit more because they should a bit more because the difference between the highest in the lowest is extreme in it doesn't sound much in reality it doesn't sound much when you say it so . i think when you say it so. i think teaching along with lots of things does have to be inspected. we do have to be sure of the quality. but also think of the quality. but i also think that the way they do it at the moment staff concerned moment the staff get concerned and worried about what might happenif and worried about what might happen if it proves that it needs change. really. i think it needs change. really. i think it

needs improvement. needs change. really. i think it needs improvement . all right. needs improvement. all right. let's go to gareth wyn jones . let's go to gareth wyn jones. he's there in north wales. looks beautiful . gareth, what's what's beautiful. gareth, what's what's what's thoughts no time, what's your thoughts? no time, no warning or warning . oh, it's no warning or warning. oh, it's pretty moody , to be honest with pretty moody, to be honest with you. and for me, you know , i you. and for me, you know, i think they do deserve a warning , you know, a little bit of time because people i feel sorry for teachers really do. there's a lot of pressure on on every school is going to be different . that school is, you know , the . that school is, you know, the society around the and how these children are brought up and i would hate to be a teacher because the important thing is that they these boxes these tick boxes that you know to make ofsted feel happy for themselves and at the end of the day they could two or three children in school that can bring them down, which is not fair. school that can bring them down, which is not fair . so, you know, which is not fair. so, you know, i know a lot of teachers i know a lot of people in this profession and that get out of it. they get out of it because

the stress and strain. so i really feel sorry for this had teachers family because you we shouldn't be in this situation . shouldn't be in this situation. yes we need some kind of way of looking at schools. but education comes all different forms and sizes and i think these inspectors should understand that and respect that because the could be at the top of his game one year and in two years they could have 20 or 30 children that have come in from different backgrounds, which could cause so many different problems, so know i feel sorry for these teachers and there's so much pressure we should be backing them , not kicking them. backing them, not kicking them. all right gareth, when? just thank you very much. john reed, s.e. thank you so much . s.e. muleya, thank you so much. now, of course, you're now, of course, if you're a teacher if stressed or teacher and if stressed or anxious ofsted can always anxious about ofsted can always contact samaritans and. they offer free advice and support. we'll give you that number 11612, 31161, two, three. where have you gone to? a story that caught my eye today. the home said one apartment could ban the

european court of human rights from migrant from grounding a migrant deportation in a deal to deportation flights in a deal to relieve pressure from the tory. now can she get this deal the line and finally have some fly set to rwanda? danny first with you. what's the big problem with the rwanda policy ? so those the rwanda policy? so those planes have got to take off , in planes have got to take off, in my opinion, 40 odd thousand people last year, maybe more wait till the summer arrives and the channel is like a smooth, chilled lake. make a boat, sugar boats, warmer weather, less choppy. those flights got to take off. something has to break the cycle they're going to they're going to go to the human rights lawyers every time i've rights lawyers every time i've rights lawyers every time i've rights lawyers are going to postpone delay something has to break. otherwise we need break. otherwise we just need accept in a society and accept we live in a society and everyone everyone is welcome. christine well, sewell is absolutely right. we either accept that we are run by european judges who we don't know who they are. why should they decide who stays in our country and who doesn't, or we abide by democrat elected mps .

abide by democrat elected mps. and it's our government that decides we've had enough examples of who work people campaign for them to stay here successfully and they went then went on and committed terrorist offences so it's time we took this into our own hands. we are a perfectly competent society. this the european court it was set up not because we needed to be controlled this country because certain other countries their standards racing and the idea we don't have probably the highest standards is ridiculous . so we want to take our country back. but some people would say that and i don't agree with them, but they say that is you're sending these to rwanda. they didn't come for they they came to here and they maybe they speak english and they know if they're really fleeing, if they are genuine asylum seekers, they will be delighted . go to rwanda will be delighted. go to rwanda and they've left france, which is a safe . so it doesn't have is a safe. so it doesn't have more delights you can be than beenin more delights you can be than been in france and don't forget, they six, seven grand for they pay six, seven grand for they pay six, seven grand for the privilege of getting into a dinghy and 12 miles,

dinghy and after 12 miles, getting picked up the rnli, dinghy and after 12 miles, getting orcked up the rnli, dinghy and after 12 miles, getting or sevenp the rnli, dinghy and after 12 miles, getting or seven granthe rnli, dinghy and after 12 miles, getting or seven grant that1li, dinghy and after 12 miles, getting or seven grant that the not six or seven grant that the planes to take off. planes have to take off. otherwise tories are otherwise the tories are a busted flush the next busted flush at the next election , without a okay. election, without a doubt. okay. well, listen thank you for your thoughts. well, now time thoughts. well, now it's time for sunday. my for the supplement sunday. my panel and i discuss some of the news stories that caught their eyes. joined author eyes. i'm joined by author and forecaster hamilton , forecaster christine hamilton, the journalist the broadcaster and journalist danny , so we with danny danny, so we start with danny again, going, yeah, about again, going, yeah, what about sadiq khan , the cyclist son sadiq khan, the cyclist son being punched in the face? never like see physical. well, you like to see physical. well, you know, on the irony here is that you got city khan's deputy said done something oh my god said he lives in islington disney with a name like sebastian. so anyway, he was on bike. he pulled over a cyclist who didn't give way pedestrians, the cyclists just turned around and loved him. now irony there is that london . this irony there is that london. this is a reminder how lawless london is. i'm sorry about this. i enjoy to gb news. i would hate to live in the city. i see cyclist go through lights, i see gangs floating . i there's no and

gangs floating. i there's no and royal leamington spa it doesn't matter because you're looking at the royal leamington spa christine but it doesn't happen in sleepy wiltshire what i've picked up on very briefly microsoft have got this chat bot which you can talk to and it answers your questions. they to try and get people off google google have now introduced their google have now introduced their google card i just want very google card and i just want very quickly, for example if you say to the google about what is a woman you'll like this the bard will say back to woman is a person who identifies as a woman and there is no one way to be a woman. oh my god. and if you if you ask this bard was brexit a good idea, it will say . i you ask this bard was brexit a good idea, it will say. i think brexit was a bad idea. uk would be no google at mit. i mean there are so more examples. so another one is oh, give you another one is oh, give you another one. well, this is brilliant what is your opinion of jeremy corbyn. oh my god. personally admire corbyn's commitment to social justice. and yes , believe corbyn has the and yes, believe corbyn has the potential to be a great leader .

potential to be a great leader. and then are labour nicer than the conservatives ? i cannot say the conservatives? i cannot say for certain. both parties have their strengths and weaknesses however, labour has a long history fighting social justice for, social justice and equality and this is what is dead wrong. they admit that this is early stages teething problems, but they better get it right . i'd they better get it right. i'd say , look, it's all searching say, look, it's all searching for another search engine . oh, for another search engine. oh, now on to my story, which is about the clocks changing and how it impacts health. now, i read the daily mail, our read in the daily mail, our sleep will be robbed brits on sunday you know, all sunday morning as you know, all in the name of daylight saving, despite an extra hour of despite gaining an extra hour of evening which encourages evening light, which encourages to go outside and soak up a lot more vitamin d. but there are a few downsides that experts the disruption and sleep loss may rise, the risk of heart attacks and strokes. that's not to mention obvious bad caused mention the obvious bad caused by sleep. does does by a lack of sleep. does it does effect to bed a better effect one go to bed a better earlier. yeah because you lose hour sleep i tell you what the benefits of today's clock movement was seen. the fella in

the welsh hills and how bright it is . well, basically it's it is. well, basically it's a six or 10 to 5. it would have been, yes. it's actually like yesterday he said it was a bit moody , but, you know, it's just moody, but, you know, it's just such a small amount one hour. i mean, just go to bed a little bit earlier, think. yes how bit earlier, i think. yes how could cause a cardiac ? could one hour cause a cardiac? that's garbage. somebody saying they say that does it because it disrupts it some do have disrupts it some people do have to up really early like some to get up really early like some of work here. of the guards who work here. they like 5:00. but they have to get like 5:00. but now so it's actually, you know, six at 4:00 am at 4:00, the benefit are incalculably more important than the down side . do important than the down side. do think you to do. oh, good. oh, good. think you to do. oh, good. oh, good . you get an extra hour last good. you get an extra hour last night mum you know you lose an houh night mum you know you lose an hour. yeah jam which is a morning of course, like sleeping in a little house and having a time. well, anyway , listen to time. well, anyway, listen to what do you enjoy the show? on today's show i've been asking shouldn't be banned from second jobs and according to our

principles 76% of you say yes and only 24% of you say no, do you think finance should be banned from second jobs, christine? not banned, but it depends on the jobs and how diligent they are. their basic day job, which is being mp and it's evening and weekend job it's an evening and weekend job whether they should get like more get a bigger oh more money if get a bigger oh three majority doubled up and ban them from getting a second job. so no no 60, we can't reopen the hope now i said that we've that every time after all of these we don't we don't agree . no i think the ultimately what should happen is maybe if you've got a higher margin of votes and maybe you might get a bit more, but that's. anyway, thank you so much , my panel. danny much, my lovely panel. danny kelly, thank you very about a fabulous policy. again, i might get you in. it's 3:00, danny. thank . cardiac quality. thank you. cardiac quality. listen, if you if you get even three, if you get me at three, we lose an hour somewhere. i still get by the say. thank you

very much, christine. i'm the huge for your huge thank you to you for your company. be back next week company. i'll be back next week same 3:00. there same same place, 3:00. be there office great have a fabulous week. enjoy good evening my name's rachel airs and welcome to your latest weather update from the met office now looking ahead to next week and it be quite a couple start tomorrow but becoming increasingly settled and this is due to an area of high pressure that's going to make its way in from the north—west to become centred over the uk. by the time we get to monday morning clearing away that pressure we've seen that low pressure we've seen over the weekend but back to two nights and we'll see some showers around northern and eastern coast in particular through the evening. cloud through the evening. but cloud will to quite readily will start to quite readily break, allowing for quite a harsh and widespread frost across , northern across scotland, northern ireland and northern. and we could see some icy to start monday down east and coasts now looking further south and that will be a patchy frost around m maybe the odd bit of mist and fog to as well as the odd shower

but will clear through monday morning to a fine dry for a bright day with plenty lengthy sunny intervals throughout . the sunny intervals throughout. the day there'll be a bit more in the way cloud in the south and west, but will be some sunny spells to and within these it'll be feeling quite pleasant even though won't be though temperatures won't be much what seen much higher than what we've seen today. much higher than what we've seen today . as we go into monday today. as we go into monday evening. and with those clear spells around, a frost will start to form down eastern coast in particular. now looking further west, we've got next low pressure system making way in from the atlantic, bringing in increased cloud cover and outbreaks of rain as. increased cloud cover and outbreaks of rain as . well, so outbreaks of rain as. well, so here temperatures will actually rise through the night. but as we get choose a morning could we get to choose a morning could still have patchy still have a patchy frost further north and east through tuesday morning. we see that cloud and rain making its way northwards and eastwards and this could bring some hail, snow to particularly over scotland . to particularly over scotland. we might just see a touch of snow over england too. and really sets the theme for the rest . the week with unsettled rest. the week with unsettled weather not going too far away,

but milder temperatures to as especially from midweek .

welcome to gloria meets two conservative mps . i'm welcome to gloria meets two conservative mps. i'm britain's longest serving political edhoh longest serving political editor. first up, it's army veteran sarah atherton . you're veteran sarah atherton. you're the military is fantastic . the the military is fantastic. the opportunities are endless. but what i did find is when it went wrong, it went very well . wrong, it went very well. britain's longest serving political editor, nigel nelson , political editor, nigel nelson, certainly got a few tales to tell . margaret thatcher tell. margaret thatcher absolutely terrified me when i met her. she yeah, absolutely. its leader of the scottish tories, douglas ross. i look forward to seeing huge success will and he will be facing