points, one of britain's talking points, one of britain's most recognised civil sportsmen, duncan goodhew mba . but before duncan goodhew mba. but before that very full menu . let's get that very full menu. let's get more news with polly middlehurst . nigel thank you and good evening to you. the top story on tv news tonight, mi5 has increased the terrorist threat level in northern ireland from substantial to severe , meaning substantial to severe, meaning an attack is highly likely. and that comes roughly a year after britain lowered the threat level for northern ireland for the first time in more than a decade . this afternoon, the deputy chief constable mark hamilton said the police service of northern ireland was working hard to make the community safer. we're not going to be deterred from providing our visible, accessible response of policing to the community. we're determined not to go backwards. northern ireland has made great progress over the last number of years, as is policing . the years, as is policing. the threat was severe for a threat level was severe for a number of unfortunately,

number of years. unfortunately, we somewhat used it . it we are somewhat used to it. it doesn't mean we accept it. it means we have to work even harder to get it to a level that is far more acceptable . well, in is far more acceptable. well, in other news today , prince harry other news today, prince harry says the royal family without a doubt withheld information from him about phone hacking by news group newspapers . he made the group newspapers. he made the claims in a witness statement submitted before his civil claim against the publisher of the daily mail, associated newspapers . prince harry is newspapers. prince harry is among a group of celebrities launching legal action against the publisher, accusing them of numerous breaches of privacy . numerous breaches of privacy. associated newspapers denies , associated newspapers denies, all the allegations . now, the all the allegations. now, the education secretary is urging teaching unions to accept the latest pay offer and end their industrial action . the industrial action. the government's offering a £1,000 one off payment, as well as a 4.5% pay rise for next year. but the national education union has recommended its members reject the deal and instead further

strikes on april 27th and may the second. snp leader humza yousaf has now been officially selected as scottish new first minister, promising never to shy away from tackling the big issues facing his country. the 37 year old is replacing nicola sturgeon, who formally tendered her resignation to the king earlier after , more than eight earlier after, more than eight years in the role. kate forbes will leave the scottish government after she narrowly lost out to mr. youssouf. it's believed she turned down a demotion from the first minister to remain on holyrood's backbenches. to remain on holyrood's backbenches . and just lastly , backbenches. and just lastly, the united states president, joe biden has called on congress to pass an assault weapons ban after six people, including three children, were killed in a school shooting in nashville on monday . and if you're watching monday. and if you're watching on television, you may find the following footage distressed . following footage distressed. police shot and killed the 28 year old transgender identified as audrey hale , who was armed as audrey hale, who was armed with at least two semi automatic

rifles and a handgun. the force says the covenant elementary school was singled out for the attack, but the victims targeted attack, but the victims targeted at random . that's all the news at random. that's all the news from now. i'm back at eight. now, nigel, the age of which we retire , is the age of which we retire, is becoming a very big political issue. goodness me. certainly south of the channel where, of course, they're rioting because they can't stand the fact the retirement age might go up from 62 to 64. in this country, the government was proposing to put it to 68, but that's now it up to 68, but that's now temporarily on hold as life expectancy has peaked and, is coming down a bit. but it's those retiring well before they get to that age that have caused an issue. and andrew bailey , the an issue. and andrew bailey, the governor of the bank of england and regular viewers and listeners show , will listeners to this show, will know been unrelenting in my know i've been unrelenting in my

criticism of him , but i wondered criticism of him, but i wondered yesterday, maybe he's got it right at last when he says people retiring early have added inflationary pressure to the economy because it's a reduction of the number of people in the workforce. so it may be sort of half a take for the governor of the bank of england. and then i thought i hang on. he's thought i on hang on. he's overseeing the most incredible penod overseeing the most incredible period money printing and period of money printing and hundreds thousands of people hundreds of thousands of people younger than being in their fifties have packed up work due to ill health. jeremy hunt did something in the budget to try and address this problem. he did it especially through increasing pensions? yes no more pension cap.theidea pensions? yes no more pension cap. the idea was to get doctors in particular to go back to work so well. hunt's policy may actually work far . so well. hunt's policy may actually work far. gb news .uk. i'm joined by liam halligan gb news is economics editor. as i say, liam, half of me thinks he might have a point, but inflation was caused by much, much bigger factors than this,

wasn't it? well, andrew bailey's becoming the not me governor of the bank of england because he likes to point to other reasons why inflation is so high in the uk and, higher than most other major western economies . and a major western economies. and a big reason why inflation is so high is of course, because of, as we've discussed , the bank of as we've discussed, the bank of england as late as november 2021, when inflation at four or 5, more than double the bank of england's target, he was still telling everybody, worry, telling everybody, don't worry, it's and they won't it's transitory and they won't because didn't put up because they didn't put up interest rates early enough . interest rates early enough. they've had put interest they've had to put interest rates fast starting later and rates up fast starting later and more, causing more pain . and of more, causing more pain. and of course, the bank of england created more money in the single yean created more money in the single year, first year of lockdown than they did in the whole of the previous ten years. in response to the global financial crisis. and the previous ten years a period of years had been a period of massive money expansion under so—called easing . but he has got so—called easing. but he has got a point when he says that the

work force is smaller. so pushing up wages , particularly pushing up wages, particularly skilled wages and there are many people who've retired in their fifties rather than carrying on. but it's a much, much smaller number. it's tens of thousands. it's less than half a% of the workforce. the real issue is that 450 500,000 people, half a million, have basically checked out of the workforce after lockdown with health related issues, long covid and so on. and that's a major reason why wages , as are companies , are wages, as are companies, are having to compete for workers. yeah vacancies are still very high . that's keeping wages high high. that's keeping wages high still. of course, wages are much, much lower than inflation. so wages in simply negative . so wages in simply negative. it's bill english lower. we've created more money. so it was more money chasing the same number of goods and fewer people in the workforce carry out the jobs. that's inflation, isn't it? that's right. and that's been that's a major problem. but the government or bank of

england is not right to say that inflation entirely down to inflation is entirely down to this or he's not right to say that companies are pushing up pnces that companies are pushing up prices too much . some are. there prices too much. some are. there is what we call some price gouging in the supply chain, particularly think food inflation. just some inflation. we've just some numbers out today. food inflation well over 17. it's inflation is well over 17. it's much higher than the basic rate of inflation, which is 10. but the main reason got inflation, i think, is because of lockdown. it's a cost of lockdown crisis as much of a cost of living crisis. supply chains were upended. you had the big post—lockdown wall demand overheating, limited supply , overheating, limited supply, coupled with the fact that the bank of england created a huge amount of money and also was then very, very slow , then very, very slow, acknowledge the inflationary implications of what it had done. so it's to raise done. so it's slow to raise interest it's not me, interest rates. but it's not me, guv now, did jeremy hunt's guv. now, did jeremy hunt's budget anything improve budget do anything to improve the situation? will it get even if they're a small percentage of the workforce , will it get older the workforce, will it get older workers, doctors etc, back to

the office? well, victoria thomas and joins me down the line and she runs next up, which is an agency that tries to get retired people back into the workforce. victoria thank you for joining us here on gb news. forjoining us here on gb news. how big a problem do you think it is for people who've retired how tough is it to get them back into the workplace ? where are into the workplace? where are you? got two issues here, nigel. you've got people leaving the workforce and then those to come back into the workforce . so back into the workforce. so first of all, you've got this is an employer issue and i couldn't agree more with what len was saying. this is a very small percentage of who are causing this problem and you can't blame the 50 plus generation for causing inflation. so what's been happening is we're seeing it's sorry now , go on. i just i it's sorry now, go on. i just i was amused by your comment considered. well, the what we're seeing is the 50 plus generation all leaving the workforce in droves because work isn't

working for them. a lot of them have been up caring responsibilities for grandchildren and for their parents, and they can't make full time work. they would actually like to work flexibly . actually like to work flexibly. so this is an employer issue and employers could make much better for generation. they've also got we've seen it so much earlier year we saw the chartered management institute saying that the employer is don't want to recruit older employers, older employees . now, i'm 67 and i've employees. now, i'm 67 and i've just launched this business. we've got a tech platform. so i'm a tech entrepreneur at this age. nigel, you're 58. i think we both like to think we have got a great deal to not now, but actually for years to come. i see why i shouldn't work for another 20 or 30 years, and there are plenty more like me. that was when i started next up because i was seeing so many people who wanted to use their skills . they haven't planned for skills. they haven't planned for retirement and they were left, to be honest with , mental health to be honest with, mental health problems. there lots of problems. so there are lots of people out there who would love problems. so there are lots of pe be e out there who would love

problems. so there are lots of pe be working, re who would love problems. so there are lots of pe be working, but'ho would love problems. so there are lots of pe be working, but they ould love problems. so there are lots of pe be working, but they can't.ove to be working, but they can't get into workforce. yeah no, get into the workforce. yeah no, listen, i agree with all of that . i'm 58, but i won't be off the monday. and so we tell me, does jeremy hunt's budget, does shifting a big shift on pensions, removing the upper cap, is that going to make much a difference in your view ? no, i a difference in your view? no, i think it is going to help the issue, but that's a very specific smaller part of this whole problem . as i say, this , whole problem. as i say, this, for employers to really think about how they make jobs much more flexible . and to a lot of more flexible. and to a lot of people want to work two or three or four days a week. the thing the government could do , i'm a the government could do, i'm a businesswoman. i don't really like suggesting more legislation. if i'm honest. but if we're going to start tampering around with this, what the is, the government could do is, first all, to put age into first of all, to put age into diversity so that we start reporting on age like we do with equal pay for women . do what we equal pay for women. do what we also need to do is enforce the age discrimination laws out

there. there is masses of agents and the employers admit we haven't invested in training for this generation. we don't help them progressing careers . what them progressing careers. what is not is not age discrimination. so what we need to do is help employers to make this a better place for people to be working. and i think you would find there's a whole workforce who would love to come back and actually contribute to the economy . and they're not the economy. and they're not causing inflation. you are quite right on that . well, i have to right on that. well, i have to say, victoria , that in an age say, victoria, that in an age when we talk about diverse , it when we talk about diverse, it does appear that those who are more mature in years get left out the equation. you made that point. well and i want to wish you a 67 year old tech entrepreneur the very, very best of luck with your business. and in helping people back to work. thank you for joining in helping people back to work. thank you forjoining us. that thank you for joining us. that was interesting. that was the point that was made there. that perhaps, you know, there older people with skills , maybe people with skills, maybe employers aren't flexible enough. do you think she may have a point that i think she

has. of course, we've got a productivity issue. there's a huge amount of base there that's left unused. if people are withdrawing from the workforce in their fifties and even in their sixties, you know, we're living on average well into our seventies and into our early eighties, a lot of people don't want to hang up their boots, as it were . as we just heard from it were. as we just heard from victoria, it does mental health issues. can have a kind of issues. you can have a kind of slope out of retirement and out of work , an offramp rather than of work, an offramp rather than a cliff edge , because cliff a cliff edge, because a cliff edge cause problems . having edge does cause problems. having said that, if kids were said all of that, if kids were listening this conversation listening to this conversation and they'd say, what do you mean? older the mean? the older get all the charts, we even go to work anymore. you're not going to be there teach so i do this there to teach us. so i do this inter—generational importance . inter—generational importance. strife is major part of our strife is a major part of our politics going forward and. there's a lot, i think in what victoria about treating age as one of these points of diversity that should be measured if you're going to measure the way in measuring everything.

absolutely halligan thank absolutely liam halligan thank you, you. have you, victoria. thank you. i have say our conclusion from say i think our conclusion from that segment is think jeremy that segment is we think jeremy hunfs that segment is we think jeremy hunt's is going to make hunt's budget is going to make almost no difference in terms of numbers that governor numbers and that the governor of bank i think we bank of england, i think we conclude, is just about as useless we've always thought useless as we've always thought he a moment , useless as we've always thought he a moment, miliband is he was. in a moment, miliband is back with a green new policy . back with a green new policy. got to make us all rich. all of that in a couple of minutes .

well, some of your thoughts on whether people their fifties ought to go back to work or the other way round. jason says retiring at 55 in october, not because i'm financially stable orindeed because i'm financially stable or indeed because of ill health, but because i'm sick of managing kids who believe they're doing me a favour by, coming to work constantly, going sick. hiding behind medical correctness instead of doing a hard day's graft. i'm fed up with people

who tick boxes being promoted by over fully capable people. what's really interesting, the jason says that liam at the end that mentioned the generational struggle and clearly is alive as well wherever jason's working. one more thought, ian says, i'm 62. been out of work for nine months and can't get a job for love or money while going speak to that lady. we had on before victoria thomas and maybe she will help you now the desire to go green is turning into a competition . just three years competition. just three years ago, when boris johnson was our prime minister , when prime minister, when interestingly the tories today, three years ago, the tories were at 54% in the polls, the highest government in office had ever been. boris said this uk government has decided to become the world in low cost , clean the world in low cost, clean power generation, cheaper than coal, cheaper than gas. and we believe that ten years time offshore wind will be powering every in the country with our

target rising from 30 gigawatts to 40 gigawatts. you heard me right. your kettle, your washing machine, your cooking, your heating your plug in electric vic , a whole lot of them will vic, a whole lot of them will get their juice cleanly and without guilt from the breezes the blue around these islands . the blue around these islands. so there you are. that was boris johnson laying all out. we were to be the saudi arabia. wind energy would be plentiful and they will tell us it's going to be not to be be cheap. well, not to be outdone, miliband. yes, he's outdone, ed miliband. yes, he's back. is back in the back. he really is back in the frontline politics. ed frontline of politics. ed miliband gave speech miliband gave a big speech today. here's a little taste of what he to say. we can carry what he had to say. we can carry on as we are faltering. climate leadership losing the global race for green jobs, standing by while other countries get ahead. we can be sore losers in the face. the inflation reduction act and watch britain forfeit the greatest chance of prosperity for generations . prosperity for generations. betraying the repeated promise made by conservative prime

ministers of economic transformation. all we can do something different. get in the race and be in it to win it. consistent and clear climate leadership. a green industrial policy to create a million jobs and cut bills . a british version and cut bills. a british version of the inflation act to make it happen. of the inflation act to make it happen . delivering the economic happen. delivering the economic change the british people crave of the. so what does all that may? what it means, of course, is there'll be an end to the ban on onshore wind farm development. there'll be a complete stop to all new oil and gas exploration and the interesting point here is he wants us to go along the joe biden line, the inflation reduction act. this is a massive piece , possibly one of the most piece, possibly one of the most expensive pieces legislation ever passed in congress in america . what it means is vast america. what it means is vast subsidy is for green energy . subsidy is for green energy. well, you know , you might pay a well, you know, you might pay a cheap amount for your electricity, but you're going to pay electricity, but you're going to pay for it on tax or pay for it

somehow. i do not believe this will give us cheap energy. maybe i'm wrong, but there is a real debate to be here because debate to be had here because there's debate no proper there's no debate no proper debate happening in parliament. don't think because both parties attempting out green each attempting to out green each other. well, joining me down the line is professor white, alison emeritus professor of physics at the university of oxford. wade, thank you for joining the university of oxford. wade, thank you forjoining me the university of oxford. wade, thank you for joining me this evening on . gb news. thank you. evening on. gb news. thank you. good evening . tell me, are you good evening. tell me, are you excited by the idea that a labour government and their favourites to come in that may change? of course the labour government will go along the joe biden line with his inflation reduction act and. there is going to be a massive uptick in renewable energy whilst at the same time we stop all new exploration for fossil fuels. that something economically and in terms of energy security that you believe could work . no .

in terms of energy security that you believe could work. no . just you believe could work. no. just like that . no, i do elaborate. like that. no, i do elaborate. it's . not a debate. it's about it's. not a debate. it's about the science of energy , which i'm the science of energy, which i'm sure that boris johnson doesn't understand. although he's churchillian flourishes in that piece that you showed . i'm sure piece that you showed. i'm sure he enjoys that. but energy , the he enjoys that. but energy, the energy of wind and indeed the energy of wind and indeed the energy of wind and indeed the energy of solar is very weak compared with the energy of . compared with the energy of. fossil fuels . and that's why the fossil fuels. and that's why the beginning of the industrial revolution , people decided revolution, people decided without it very quickly to give up wind and

without it very quickly to give upwind and solar and so on, because the ships didn't come in and the water mills stopped flowing. and so that is not the way that that could not support the world population as it was then. the world population as it was then . very well. and it sucked . then. very well. and it sucked. it wouldn't support the population today. so now as we get to the end of the industry revolution and we think we shouldn't be having quite so much fossil fuel energy as we ramp fossil fuel energy . and if ramp fossil fuel energy. and if we ramp up nuclear , which is the we ramp up nuclear, which is the only other game in town we should not look backwards to what didn't ? work. okay. and what didn't? work. okay. and work. work. now all right professor alison, thank you for that point of view. i'm joined by tom cbe, a regular on this show. you know , the argument the

show. you know, the argument the professor's putting is that actually these are not very efficient forms of energy . the efficient forms of energy. the argument i'm putting is if we do anything like the joe biden act, this is yet more mass massive taxpayer subsidy for . well, taxpayer subsidy for. well, first of all, you can do go green smart ways and stupid ways . and frankly, going nuclear is one of the stupider ways to go green. there are much smarter to do it. and if you do it in ways, then we can argue about whether an investment is a subsidy or an investment . it seems to me that investment. it seems to me that exact to what biden is doing and understand since is if you don't invest in driving forward argue how much should be private, how much should be public. but if you don't invest, then you won't get anywhere. what's clear happening is the world's on happening now is the world's on a trajectory to getting rid of carbon from its energy system . carbon from its energy system. you know what, tom? i just think that's think wrong . you that's i think that's wrong. you know, we can think about ourself over here in the west. you know, i put this to you that in 2023,

we're going to burn 8 billion tonnes of coal. it's more coal going to be burnt this year than has burnt. human has ever been burnt. so human history know what the history and we know what the indonesians doing. 250 coal indonesians are doing. 250 coal fired stations , china, fired power stations, china, india, we know these things. but point i want to make about the you know we have subsidised wind energy. it's been paid for by the poor isn't it. well, the reason we have computers right is because the american government subsidised low thanks to a thing called darpa, the defence reasons. the whole development of that technology. it took to round the bottom end of that learning cycle and then it took off which is why we now have phones, by the way , that have phones, by the way, that even 20 years ago we didn't have that was all a project. the fact you invest them when you invest at the beginning it's expensive and private sector doesn't do that investment. government had investment. that's now everywhere in the world actually everywhere in the world actually everywhere in the world. it is cheaper to install more

renewables to your activity than it is to install any kind of fossil fuel power that's cheap. it's cheaper with subsidy . no, it's cheaper with subsidy. no, no, no, no, no. i mean let's be honest about it. but let's just move on. if we can and we can agree. disagree on that. let's move on. if we can to energy security security of energy supply is utterly crucial. we had a power cut the other day . had a power cut the other day. but you can't function in the modern world without. we can't do this just with renewables , do this just with renewables, can we? well, first of all, you're absolutely right about the priority of energy security . the best, smartest , cleverest . the best, smartest, cleverest way to bills down is to stop our houses leaking our buildings, not just houses leaking as much energy as they do. that would help in the short term. but doesn't the entire doesn't solve the entire problem. no, course problem. well, no, of course not. i didn't say was going problem. well, no, of course no solve dn't say was going problem. well, no, of course no solve dn' i say was going problem. well, no, of course no solve dn'i just was going problem. well, no, of course no solve dn'i just said; going problem. well, no, of course no solve dn'i just said it'sing to solve it. i just said it's good that , like running water good that, like running water into you've to put into bathtub, you've got to put the so it's dumb. the plug into. so it's of dumb. so put plug in first. so let's put the plug in first. the thing we should do the next thing we should do exactly, it's to be exactly, right? it's got to be affordable. got to be

affordable. it's got to be secure. that that exactly as what you're going get from what you're going to get from wind provided one wind and renewables provided one you you do right right the right kind of market current market which prices everything at the price of gas which we're giving . exactly. don't worry . know the . exactly. don't worry. know the racket that's been going on. and the second piece of that is you've got to invest storage. but you and i know at the moment i've been hearing about storage since the year 2000, since i started asking questions about this at the moment, storage is wildly expensive. it may get better as the years go on, but for now do you not accept we need fossil fuels worse? and you're saying for we don't actually have enough of it and the costs of batteries which are part but not all of the solution have floor over have gone through the floor over exactly the same way as renewables. it actually for the same reason because governments started rolling and started the ball rolling and then markets rolled they thought, you know, the problem irritates you as much as it irritates you as much as it irritates me is we're paying people switch off the wind at people to switch off the wind at

night we can't use the night because we can't use the energy. well, if you use switched off reactors instead , switched off reactors instead, you use that to make hydrogen, which you stored long term, you'd solve but hydrogen you'd solve that. but hydrogen isn't enough to be used in any large usage at this moment in time. how you burn it in an time. how do you burn it in an existing fired power existing gas fired power station? say you station? yeah you say you shouldn't. the opposite two houses. there we are. houses. agree there we are. houses, it will not work houses, cars. it will not work it now have uses in some it now you have uses in some ways i'm not sure tom burke and i ross far apart perhaps as people think but it's a big debate it's, a very important debate it's, a very important debate we we've we've had to reopen to coal fired power stations way to show that stations this way to show that that's there's no that's because there's no consistency in government you know what investors require of above all government consists this attitude. no you're absolutely right. in a moment, let's talk northern ireland. just how serious is this problem? we'll also talk about that hotel in newquay. there was a riot outside the other a mini riot outside the other day. to the day. we're going to get the truth .

protests and clashes outside . protests and clashes outside. the vera baird hotel in newquay migrant hotel claim counterclaim onune migrant hotel claim counterclaim online and through the newspapers. will gb news is southwest reporter jeff moody was there. jeff, tell us, please exactly what happened outside baroness hallett hotel a couple of days . oh, where do i start? of days. oh, where do i start? nigel it was quite a situation. i mean, there were around 50 protesters that were protesting against the use of the paris hotel to house migrant . there hotel to house migrant. there was also 150, at least eight people that were protesting about them. now, those protesters , the protesters, the counterprotesters , if you like, counterprotesters, if you like, all turned up in masks. they all had their faces covered. and they were becoming very very

aggressive, very, very , very, aggressive, very, very, very, very threatening , calling very threatening, calling everybody inside fascist. that was that big word of the day. everybody was a fascist, fascists, people that were protesting that were worried about their that. their daughters worried about their families . all fascist . i tried families. all fascist. i tried to talk to few of them. of course i was a fascist. you're a fascist. apparent lee company is a fascist . and that was the word a fascist. and that was the word that they were using for everybody. and it got very, very nasty and it got very, very unpleasant , too. nobody knows unpleasant, too. nobody knows where these came from , but they where these came from, but they seemed to be busting in for these protests and all of the things that normally you would say they're against, you know, like judging people too soon, etc. etc, that judging us and accuse ing us of being fascists don't know whether any of them understand fascism. actually is

, but they are accusing us of that. and it did get very unpleasant and i felt very threatened nigel i felt very threatened nigel i felt very threatened because of where i work, because the channel i work for . it felt work, because the channel i work for. it felt very work, because the channel i work for . it felt very nasty. and the for. it felt very nasty. and the police were there , but that police were there, but that didn't feel like much of a protect because of course, the police were only arrest them once they've hit me , you know, once they've hit me, you know, they're not going to stop from hitting me. and i did feel very threatened . and, you know, one threatened. and, you know, one of them was calling me a name that i can't possibly mention on on live telly. you know, when i was saying you don't know me, you don't know what my beliefs are, you don't know thing about me , but you're judging me me, but you're judging me because of where i work . and because of where i work. and that's not fair fair. because of where i work. and that's not fair fair . well, no that's not fair fair. well, no upset with geoff. that's a very, very heartfelt , very honest very heartfelt, very honest account of what happened the other day. and i'm pleased you're absolutely fully in one

shape and i'm very worried. i have to say , level of the level have to say, level of the level of intolerance shown by these people, those who point the finger at others, but are even more guilty than those that they accuse. jeff moody, thank you for that report from the uk . for that report from the uk. well, folks i think i don't know about you, but that is pretty alarming. disturbing stuff. the use of threats, intimidation , use of threats, intimidation, violence to shut people up. it's very , very worrying. now also very, very worrying. now also worrying, as we've learned today, that m15 have moved to severe the terrorist risk in northern ireland. joining me is the former head of national counter—terrorism security office, chris phillips , down the office, chris phillips, down the line. chris, good evening. from what i can see, there have a whole raft of groups . you know, whole raft of groups. you know, the real ira either. all sorts of different groups. the new ira . there's been obviously the horrendous shooting of the

senior police officer , the senior police officer, the attempted bombing that took place last november. and, of course, joe biden's visit coming up in a couple of weeks i. i don't know what's going on. would it be reasonable to guess that there are republican groups saying 25 years on from the belfast agreement, we know they were to our goals that the motivation . please help. well motivation. please help. well i think i totally agree with you there, nigel. all those things coming together that has taken the threat level up to severe. but of course we the threat levels are there set by data in mi5 levels are there set by data in m15 looking at all the intelligence and. what they're seeing is a growth in groups of people that want to commit terror attacks. prime it seems to aim towards police but also politicians feel very nervous and i think you take those and it's very sensible for the security services to say, look, what's going on in northern ireland now is very concerning .

ireland now is very concerning. we need to do more work on it. and the need to very very and the need to be very very aware of the threat that one of these things is going to happen almost certainly over the next few months . what is the response few months. what is the response , chris? you know, you were there in this role . you know, there in this role. you know, when you get the intelligence services saying severe. how does that change policing activities 7 that change policing activities ? how does that change security activity ? well, that's a that's activity? well, that's a that's activity? well, that's a that's a really good point, actually, nigel, because it probably won't change an awful lot within policing already set up for this . bearing in mind that substantial with threat level substantially it's actually saying that an attack is likely and this means it's very likely . policing wise there will be more resources thrown at this but really it's also for the public. i mean the reason they this stuff is for the public to be much more aware of the threat , be alert and be willing to report people because you know, terrorism is in no one's best aims and the vast majority , 99%

aims and the vast majority, 99% of the population of northern ireland can't see any reason that you should go back to this wage effectively a terrorist war against. the states, particularly when sinn fein are now in government, it's quite ridiculous . now in government, it's quite ridiculous. but of now in government, it's quite ridiculous . but of course, yes now in government, it's quite ridiculous. but of course, yes. yeah, they are in government . yeah, they are in government. it's not united ireland, which of course is what the republican or some the republican movement have, is their absolute go. chris phillips, thank you very much indeed joining and much indeed forjoining us and giving us evidence, you know, what goes on in these situations. in moment, a change of mood i'm going to be joined by one of the most recognised visible sportsmen britain. visible sportsmen in britain. yes, goodhew , and he yes, duncan goodhew, and he joins talking bud's .

it's time for talking points. i'm very pleased to be joined by i'm very pleased to be joined by

i got to say, one of the most recognisable food in britain you had duck an odd thing in your case sort of adversity has become the duncan goodhew bra many years after the olympic . many years after the olympic. everyone recognises you with the street and knows who you are . street and knows who you are. well, i haven't gone grey , lost well, i haven't gone grey, lost any of . from one or two wrinkles any of. from one or two wrinkles creeping in the it was a boyhood you out of a tree? yeah. yeah, i fell out of a tree. and in fact, the guy built the salt course also taught me how to swim . so, also taught me how to swim. so, you know, he he lost my hair for me. yep. but it was okay . way me. yep. but it was okay. way out. but the dyslexia it was much bigger issue for me and also being able to read properly at school and everything that that was a struggle because that was a real struggle because on the one hand, you had quite a privileged opportunity . you went privileged opportunity. you went to millfield school down to

somerset in a great school, obviously fantastic school. where else could i go ? bald, where else could i go? bald, dyslexic, could swim . so i that dyslexic, could swim. so i that was the list, sadie. i mean, how did you cope with lessons and things like that ? it was a real things like that? it was a real challenge but fortunately , i challenge but fortunately, i suppose my music because i was rocking around with my brothers friends year two, two and a half years older, me and it was very specific problems with certain things and reading one of them and later on i went on to university to study business management. so you know, it's not that i'm not able do the academics, it's on the back foot , but it's one of the greatest things because know the swimming was a life line that was thrown to me . tony roberts this swim , a to me. tony roberts this swim, a pe teacher, coach . and i didn't pe teacher, coach. and i didn't have the problem that people have the problem that people have was so somebody have is so good at so many things they can't pick one's good you know

it was very clear that you know what i think is one of the greatest skills in life find the thing that you're good at. yeah. you know and that you love and what's made a massive difference and i think we really under underestimate is the amount people give permission to succeed . and throughout my life succeed. and throughout my life i've had fantastic that have that have just empowered me to believe that it's possible it's that kind of thing believing in me more than i believe in myself and that really helps you and i think it was it gore vidal once said , when a friend does well said, when a friend does well and bitterly dies inside, do you want to be like that or do you want to be like that or do you want to be like that or do you want to be like the founder of millfield, the boss? my who's who asked the question. i mean, i just try swim a medley in my interview , millfield, aged 1213 interview, millfield, aged 1213 and couldn't swim butterfly i

and couldn't swim butterfly i and to give you an idea sharon davis went to the olympic at the age of and she could definitely swim and i because it was a medley it's four legs i cut one of the lengths out the butterfly legs and ended at the wrong end of the pool. and yes , these are of the pool. and yes, these are good. yeah the coach came up and he said, you know, you're at the wrong. i had to admit that i'd failed just butterfly and drown myself and i failed too. and i got out and. i was trudging up to boss myers office, you know , to boss myers office, you know, looking at my stitching on my shoes, you know, so downcast boss meyer walked up and he looked down me and he said, paddy , to the coach who is paddy, to the coach who is walking with with me, he said, well , he swim for the school and well, he swim for the school and you know, i couldn't butterfly at the age that sharon was

swimming in the olympics and he the coach said, you know, he'll swim for the school and you boss meyer was staring my soul a bit too close to me and i'm looking at him in background. is that swim for the school, the county, the district, the country? and you're probably going to be on that. you know my parents. yeah the talent is there and we are what you would you prefer to be a boss? a gore vidal? you know , a boss? a gore vidal? you know, i get it . i get a boss? a gore vidal? you know, i get it. i get it. but a boss? a gore vidal? you know, i get it . i get it. but it's i get it. i get it. but it's interesting, isn't it? people believed in you and you got the scholarship, you know, i lived in north carolina. the montreal olympics really interesting. olympics are really interesting. you know, you're yeah. you know, you're 19. yeah. you're green . but we were you're green. but we were overconfident into it. well, i mean , i was i had some of the mean, i was i had some of the best times in the world at the time. and i phoned up my mother and said, you know , are you and said, you know, are you coming to montreal? and she said, the hasn't been selected. and i said, it's not and i said, oh, it's not a question of whether i'm going it's which middle i'm going to win. she don't be so

win. and she said don't be so cocky, didn't book the ticket sadly, but it was it came yeah seven and that was failure . well seven and that was failure. well i mean i at time they you'd go in to a holding room just before the event so it was three walls of glass double glazed one way glass you could see out could see it and they'd hold you there for your fear race and i went in there and the door closed behind and it kind of hermetically sealed. and the silence . and sealed. and the silence. and here i was , you know, with here i was, you know, with a chef, another fastest people in the world, the lions, the gods of my sport . and after a few of my sport. and after a few seconds, i said, i don't feel so good. seconds, i said, i don't feel so good . and the whole suppose good. and the whole suppose issue around it is, why me you know, who? me? why me? no me? i'm just from west sussex . and i'm just from west sussex. and why me? why, why should i be

best in the world? and for me that was just a disaster at that point because i, i just, that was just a disaster at that point because i, ijust, i broke down really? because i couldn't win and i couldn't break through and that's that's partly, i think , to do with evolutionary think, to do with evolutionary responses . you're very nervous responses. you're very nervous you've got adrenalin going . it's you've got adrenalin going. it's only as you learn to manage that you can really move forward. so a lot of this is in the mind, isn't it? well for me, it was all in the mind. of course, you got to do the work. yeah. you get to moscow . it's get to moscow. it's a controversial olympics, but then , hey, when doesn't sport and politics collide? but it happens all the time. yeah know. all the time. yeah i know. it's all the time. yeah i know. it's a one. mean, it was it a tough one. i mean, it was it was a tough one. but, you know, a tough one. i mean, it was it was went gh one. but, you know, a tough one. i mean, it was it was went and ne. but, you know, a tough one. i mean, it was it was went and all but, you know, a tough one. i mean, it was it was went and all the, you know, a tough one. i mean, it was it was went and all the rest| know, a tough one. i mean, it was it was went and all the rest of'iow, a tough one. i mean, it was it was went and all the rest of itw, you went and all the rest of it and you will and you're done good. and you will and you're done good . you and you are good. you and you are distinctive looking and everyone's going to know who you are . literally forever. what was

are. literally forever. what was it like standing on that top podium ? oh, well, i think it was podium? oh, well, i think it was a process for two years. i'd really used that. you know, i need to break this . who, me? why need to break this. who, me? why me . and i work not just with me. and i work not just with coaches. we pulled in a leading psychoanalyst. try and help me . psychoanalyst. try and help me. and so there was a lot of visualisation, a little emotional ization. so actually when i when i was in that room, again was so prepared that, i mean, i sat down and read a book and everybody is look at why i see reading a book. and i knew that i'd won. but psychologically, you you like to 90, psychologically, you you like to go, yeah. and when i came up to breathe 25 metres to go, i remember saying, you know, the chimp on the shoulder, the proverbial chip turned to the gorilla . you know, if you don't gorilla. you know, if you don't do something, not going to win. and all of the work and all the people that supported me were there and i said, and that's

totally as absurd . so touching totally as absurd. so touching the end was almost it was what was trained for so long that it wasn't a surprise . but it's just wasn't a surprise. but it's just it was a whole pulling together , my life, being born dyslexic, facing things, and it it was all positive and really brilliant. now you're absolutely evangelist for swimming at all levels. you've got got to be. then tell us about your big swimathon project. yeah, i mean, we've been running with for many years now and it's the 12th, 14th of may. so anybody's welcome there for hundred and 50 pools taking part but the how special is it's such a force for good our swimmers have raised over £55 million for charity and i joined and this time when pools need to be used you know please out there go and have a swim enjoy yourselves and support our

swimming because it's a very mixed sport pastime at the moment, isn't it? you've got this growth of they call it wild swimming. it'sjust swimming in swimming. it's just swimming in the sea . but but that's back, the sea. but but that's back, you know , and as i mentioned, you know, and as i mentioned, you know, and as i mentioned, you were in green room, the you were in the green room, the coast asaba. there are coast of asaba. there are thousands of people in the water swimming. and wouldn't have swimming. and you wouldn't have seen years ago. seen that even five years ago. and pools and our swimming pools are having really difficult time. having a really difficult time. yeah, had the energy yeah, we've had the energy problem and the government have agreed to support the energy price increases. so they get relief from governments. it's when you whittle it down, it's only £23 million for pools . now, only £23 million for pools. now, given how many private public swimming pools they are, it's peanuts . and the other issue is peanuts. and the other issue is we've got a lot of old swimming pools from the seventies that you remember. and they were new. but i was a kid. and now that they need rebuild and unless the

government really need to sit down because before covid swimming was the most popular sport there are more people swimming than cycling or jogging or any other sport . so it's what or any other sport. so it's what people do . we're an island of people do. we're an island of swimmers . people do. we're an island of swimmers. interesting. we all got to go on evangelising with swimming. i can tell that it's absolute delight to have you on the program and all i can say really well done. yeah cheers. good.thank. really well done. yeah cheers. good. thank . okay. i've a couple good. thank. okay. i've a couple of barrages, the barrages that have come in. julian asks me, do you agree that the governor the bank of england, is a joke, an ounce of his depth? andrew out to lunch. bailey as i've called him so many times before, it was one of boris johnson's worst appointments. we need to somebody. he was a radical in the sense some of that understood breaking free of eu

financial market regulation should actually have been boom time for the city. haven't had that. interestingly the remainers told us hundreds of thousands of jobs will be lost in services. absolutely none have richard asks me, do you believe in inheritance tax? richard asking me, do i believe in double taxation ? you know in double taxation? you know what's so awful about it? those that have got real money and financially plan ? don't pay financially plan? don't pay inheritance tax , the wealthy inheritance tax, the wealthy don't pay inheritance tax. it's now people living in semi—detached houses in the suburbs of london that are now over the threshold and the government will rake in more and more money through inheritance tax over the next few years. inheritance tax and follow up income tax . these were things income tax. these were things for the top few % of the country for the top few% of the country . these are now things that think 8 million people before long be paying 40 or more tax and huge numbers are being dragged into inherited this tax.

and this is what you get when the state gets bigger and bigger and bigger. and i'm for not it, ryan asks , what is the new ryan asks, what is the new balance? spurling nigel says albemarle i don't know, but they're amusing. they've been coming round the country with us and i very much enjoy their company and their tremendous now that's it from me for today, but i'm going to hand over to jacob rees—mogg now. jacob, are you in you this, this servant of democratic organisation ? i mean, democratic organisation? i mean, are you now a plotter ? no, of are you now a plotter? no, of course not. i've never been a plotter, but the grassroot , the plotter, but the grassroot, the conservative party, where the real heart of the party is the people who got us brexit. they're the people who backed bofis they're the people who backed boris johnson , and they are the boris johnson, and they are the who deliver leaflets for us in the rain . i mean, they go to an the rain. i mean, they go to an admiral and then give them interesting what have you got tonight? we're going to be talking amnesty talking about amnesty international, which seems to think the worse think human rights, the uk worse than . you look at

than in china if. you look at their website, it's all on the uk wiggers so uk nothing about the wiggers so yeah we're talking about that we're to be talking about we're going to be talking about the experience of the terrible experience of children fallen of children who have fallen out of schooling post the pandemic. another horrendous cost of lockdown, right? yep we're going to look back on it in years to come. was a big disaster. but before jacob, let's get the all important spring weather i look at and it's aidan mcgivern here from the met office a lot of cloud sticking around for the next showery rain at next 24 hours. showery rain at times as well, especially the north and the west. but it will be mild there at the moment coming the southwest. coming in from the southwest. it's circulating around area it's circulating around an area low pressure, will low pressure, which will dominate things out the dominate things out of the atlantic through the next few days. it's already centre and the set of weather the initial set of weather fronts fronts now fronts through those fronts now clearing , which fronts through those fronts now clearing, which means that overnight the more persistent spells of weather confined spells of damp weather confined to the north of scotland. but there'll showery rain there'll be further showery rain to scotland by the to the west of scotland by the early into ireland early hours, then into ireland and parts in and southwestern parts in between a lot of cloud. that cloud covering the hills, it's going low , misty,

going to be quite low, misty, murky and temperatures staying at 6 to 9 celsius. so a mild, if rather gloomy, starts to wednesday. there'll be some outbreaks through the midlands into parts of england at times, but otherwise it's generally grey and further damp weather will come , especially in the will come, especially in the south, the west and across scotland . then into the scotland. then into the afternoon , some brighter skies afternoon, some brighter skies developing will lead to higher temperatures. 5016, perhaps even 17 celsius. but the rain never be too far away. in fact , the be too far away. in fact, the rain becomes heavier and more persistent through in the southwest by evening that spreads into the midlands eastern and northern england and some heavy showers will arrive western as well as western scotland as well as northern so a wet spell northern ireland. so a wet spell for end the day for most of us as we end the day on wednesday go the on wednesday and go into the early thursday before early hours of thursday before it's a bit drier it's tends to become a bit drier once again. but keep the cloud cover and it's going to be another frost free rather mild start thursday . some start to thursday. some brightness once through brightness once again through the midlands, east anglia, north—east scotland , although north—east to scotland, although

shetland to see a spell shetland likely to see a spell of wet and windy continuing through thursday . otherwise it's through thursday. otherwise it's a day of spells and lively showers, hail and thunder be ruled out and actually between the showers there'll be some sunshine with temperatures reaching 16 or 17 celsius into friday some wet and windy weather to come .

there you with gb news in a moment headliners. but first let's bring you the latest news headlines. and m15 has increased terrorism threat level in northern ireland from substantial severe meaning an attack is highly likely . that attack is highly likely. that comes roughly a year after britain . the threat level for britain. the threat level for northern ireland for the first time in more than a decade. the deputy chief constable mark hamilton. the police service of

northern ireland, is working hard to make the community safer. also on the news today, prince harry says , the royal prince harry says, the royal family, without a doubt withheld information from him about phone hacking by news group newspapers. made the claims in a witness statement submitted before his civil claim against the publisher of the daily associated newspapers . prince associated newspapers. prince harry is among a group of celebrities launching legal action against the publisher, accusing them of numerous breaches of privacy . associated breaches of privacy. associated newspapers denies all the allegations in the united states. president joe biden has called congress to pass an assault weapons ban after. a school shooting in tennessee saying the country owes the families action this time not prayers. for viewers a warning, you may find the following footage distressing in the incident. six people, including three children, were killed in nashville on monday. police and killed a 28 year old transgender

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