hello there at 6:00 on michelle dewberry. and this is dewbs& co. coming up tonight, get this raw sewage has been point 825 times a day into english rivers and seas. disgusting. now the regulator has a proposal . so regulator has a proposal. so what.7 it recognises that if the bosses of these companies are paying bosses of these companies are paying themselves bonuses, the bills should be reduced. other people saying that does not go anywhere near enough. and actually, it bosses are behaving this way, quite frankly, they should be in jail. oh that's bit

harsh. where do you stand on it.7 and also, it reignites the conversation about whether or not water companies should be renationalise. should they .7 and renationalise. should they? and wimbledon coming up soon. get this, the russian federation athletes previously banned because of the war in ukraine will now be allowed to compete spots with some strings attached. is that the right decision or not? and listen , decision or not? and listen, when a thousand technology bosses come together and warn us of a serious, profound risk to society and humanity . if you of a serious, profound risk to society and humanity. if you ask me, we need to sit up and listen. and we're getting into that tonight. but artificial intelligence, is it a force for good or could it all get out of control? your thoughts on all of that. but before we get into it, let's bring ourselves up to speed with tonight's latest headunes. speed with tonight's latest headlines . hi there. let's begin headlines. hi there. let's begin with the prime minister who has said that the britain's new

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recovers from bronchitis. the pope has been seen walking the corridors of the hospital in rome and has baptised a baby . rome and has baptised a baby. he's expected to return home tomorrow pending the results of his latest medical tests . the his latest medical tests. the vatican says he is also scheduled to take part in a palm sunday service to mark the start of easter week celebrations. his busiest time of the year. tv online, disney plus radio and on cheatin. this is gb news. now it is over to . is over to. michelle thanks for that sweet michelle dewberry keeping you company till 7:00 tonight alongside me. my till 7:00 tonight alongside me. my friday favourites. i like to call them alex. dean is the political consultant and paul embery a firefighter writer and broadcaster. welcome thank you very much. and you know the trail as well, don't you? it's not just about three here. not just about those three here.

it's you at it's very much about you at home. what's on your mind? tonight's is tonight's vaiews@gbnews.uk is the as per usual. you can the email as per usual. you can tweet gb news or arts. tweet me at gb news or arts. michel dubois. tweet me at gb news or arts. michel dubois . lots of people michel dubois. lots of people getting in touch already about the water story . i'll come getting in touch already about the water story. i'll come on to that one in a second. but paul, another one that caught my eye might be remiss of me not to ask you about it. was the report that came out tonight. and i'm going my ready. i going to get my quotes ready. i don't to. i don't like to don't want to. i don't like to misquote as report. misquote as official report. apparently, bullying apparently, evidence of bullying , discrimination , harassment and discrimination in and rescue service in every fire and rescue service in every fire and rescue service in england could be just the tip of the iceberg. apparently is that true, in your view ? i think that true, in your view? i think unquestionably some of this stuff goes on. i mean , there are stuff goes on. i mean, there are thousands of people employed in the tens of thousands of people employed in the fire and rescue service up and down the country. and any institution and i think in any institution with many people in it, you with that many people in it, you will always have very small number people who behave number of people who behave badly. in some cases really badly. and in some cases really badly. and in some cases really badly. some of the stories can outlined in the report are unquestionably horrific , and

unquestionably horrific, and there's no place in the fire service or any public service for people like that. the same time, michel , for people like that. the same time, michel, i would time, though, michel, i would say we should not tar say that we should not tar everybody with the same brush . everybody with the same brush. the vast majority of people in the fire service are decent people who would never dream of acting in that way. i would be uncomfortable about any suggestion that the service itself is institutionally racist . i think what we've seen is isolated incidents , terrible isolated incidents, terrible incidents, but isolated incidents. and in the debate , we incidents. and in the debate, we shouldn't lose sight of the fact that an awful lot of good has been done up in in the fire service for 25 years. and during that time, things have improved pretty dramatically in terms of fire . you know, trying fire services. you know, trying to trying to eradicate bullying and racism and misogyny and that kind of thing. we've come a long, long way in the service. so it's very important that, yes, we take stories like this seriously, but the same time, seriously, but at the same time, we recognise the good that's been kind been done. yeah. and these kind of , they seem to be like of reports, they seem to be like ten happening at the moment. all the services getting

investigated. seem to get investigated. you do seem to get these what was the these reports. what was it the other day? was it the case of reports much reports of police? pretty much the same conclusion was that. yeah i think we and i understand why in that example the commissioner of the metropolitan police , whilst he accepted the police, whilst he accepted the findings of the report and what they uncovered, resisted allowing his force to be called institutional racist. and that's the distinction that paul is making. i understand why you make it as long as the findings are taken seriously . and there's are taken seriously. and there's nothing, i think, in what paul said, as an outsider to said, that i, as an outsider to the service, would would demur from. i suppose of the from. i suppose part of the point is that you've got to get to a culture where it's so accepting that are bad accepting that these are bad apples and individuals rather than systemic. you've got to get to where those who are to a culture where those who are conducting themselves in that kind of behaviour play an active part in stopping those who do , part in stopping those who do, whether it be making their disapproval clear at the lowest level, kind of off colour level, the kind of off colour remark something through to remark or something through to informing on their colleagues,

telling their superiors that someone's done something wrong. if it's a sustained and or grievous example . and that may grievous example. and that may be part of the problem because it's ground, isn't it's a middle ground, isn't there, individuals being there, between individuals being bad the being bad apples and the system being institutionally or institutionally racist or misogynist or homophobic or whatever . and that's that. misogynist or homophobic or whatever. and that's that. you live culture where people live in a culture where people don't feel it's their responsibility to try and take care of actually it is. care of it when actually it is. and one of the things that came out report, which out of the report, which was frankly was the frankly inexcusable, was the fact where of these fact that where some of these stories, these complaints had been through the been made through the organisation into senior officers, they were often ignored. people tried to sweep it under the carpet and a blind eye. that's never acceptable if you make a serious complaint of bullying or harassment, misogyny, you're entitled to have taken seriously in any have it taken seriously in any organisation well, do you organisation. well, what do you think when you hear all think when you hear about all these services that apparently roll awful, horrendous services? we used to believe some of the reports . and do you work in any reports. and do you work in any of those services then? how is your morale when you see these kind things? steve you did kind of things? steve you did make me chuckle and i was trying

to serious point to listen a very serious point that paul was making. and i saw steve's email pop up and it's it caught eyes. if i was caught my eyes. if i was smiling, wasn't laughing at smiling, i wasn't laughing at what was you'll what you were saying was you'll you're because you're forgiven. because steve said, that said, i am. michel, was that terrible these days? are terrible about these days? are you trying are you considering your guests or brown russell punching somebody now give it to me . i could i could i can snap a me. i could i could i can snap a quick left job here and i could do it in that distance , i think. do it in that distance, i think. well, yes, it's not an arm wrestling and their friends, too, it was an wrestle, too, if it was an arm wrestle, i think you go right. yeah well, if it was me versus you, i think. yeah, i don't. no chance. oh, much. no charles oh, thanks very much. no charles taylor, so nice taylor, charlie. so very nice feel. alex and i sitting opposite each other on a train. we be sort bouncing up we should be sort of bouncing up and slightly. shouldn't we? and down slightly. shouldn't we? oklahoma writes i'm oklahoma writes well, so i'm going with show i'm supposed going with the show i'm supposed to conducting because to be conducting is said because i was pessimistic i wasn't it was pessimistic about fire fighters, but i couldn't west and couldn't help myself. west and to that top of my agenda tonight . so i use someone that takes kind of dips in the outdoor the seas. if you do, you're much

braver than i am going to say. anyway, this 825 times a day anyway, get this 825 times a day last year as the amount of times that raw sewage has been dumped into these waters , lots of into these waters, lots of people are saying and they say, oh, what's the regulator they're suggesting now ? they perhaps suggesting now? they perhaps could have a policy where if these companies are paid their bosses bonuses whilst behaving badly when it comes to pollution bills should be reduced. all the people saying that doesn't go far enough. these of the far enough. these guys of the behaving this way should be facing criminal charges. well, i think people look at think a lot of people look at the bill reductions that they had it must happen had because it must happen before. right. people have had their reduced when the their bills reduced when the fines to these fines are administered to these companies happens over companies and it happens over months literally months and it's literally pennies. the other pennies. i mean, on the other hand, do, i think, have hand, we do, i think, have cheaper water than of our cheaper water than some of our neighbours, i actually neighbours, but i actually neighbours, but i actually neighbours other neighbours i mean in other countries view what countries and in my view what you're at there is a you're hinting at there is a sense of broader responsibility of management. sense of broader responsibility of management . and the reason it of management. and the reason it would be weird if it would happen with these bosses is that

they they alone would be held accountable like this . it's accountable like this. it's quite interesting. there was a move in the city and in conserva tive circles to try and make directors sign off accounts like they used to , to say that in they used to, to say that in their view, this is a true and fair accounts of the businesses, financial, state. we stopped doing that a long time ago in this country and that would have returned some sense of personal, individual responsibility to directors. done directors. but we haven't done it. for me would be really it. so for me it would be really weird only water bosses were weird if only water bosses were accountable. but with them and then roll it out . so someone's then roll it out. so someone's got to go first. yeah the reason i'm. you'd have to think that they are the most egregious, right? and at the moment they're deaung right? and at the moment they're dealing with the victorian infrastructure which and i think it's overflow from range spillage as well as sewage. this that counts as even spills. but the point is there other the point is there are other more egregious than systems that are corporately , you know, are corporately, you know, permitting corruption or institutions that risk our financial well—being as a country because they leave

overleverage and go to so much debt. i think you'd be hard pressed to make case that pressed to make the case that these are the worst corporate players country . so i get players in the country. so i get it's a hot topic issue at the moment, but for me on this, be far from the first of what i mean what we've seen. i think over the last four decades since privatised version of the water industry is outrageous profiteering and the people who have paid the price for it is the ordinary customer. and i think in terms of water, there's a very strong case to say it should be taken back into public ownership. what we've seen are billions and billions of pounds paid out in shareholder dividends, paid out in bonuses for top water company directors at the same time, we've seen a chronic lack of investment in the system itself . we've seen the system itself. we've seen bills go up. we've seen huge numbers of defects and leaks which have a real impact on community. as we've seen the story about raw sewage in rivers, 70% of our of our water

companies are foreign owned, by the way, 70% of the system is foreign owned. so what you've got is foreign owned companies that are essentially making profit out of our water system and then repatriated in many cases , those profits back to cases, those profits back to back to their home country and i just think that can't be right for too long, the water system in this country has been a cash cow for privateers, and i think the game is up in many respects because i think when you look at the water system, a exposed for being a complete failure, privatisation the water privatisation of the water system has been unmitigated system has been an unmitigated disaster and we need to be honest enough and take it back into public space. one as an outside observer to the industry, make industry, i'll make one observation haven't observation right. we haven't built a reservoir this built a new reservoir in this country know how much country in i don't know how much like and the population like decades and the population has exploded. that would have been basic problem for been the same basic problem for drinking water and water supplies, whether it was in private or public and private or public hands. and that's nothing to do with that's really nothing to do with the which i gather the companies, which i gather would willing to go into, would be willing to go into, you know, paying this the know, to paying some of this the cost reservoir that's cost of the reservoir that's down in the end to the state.

the state want give the very state you want to give the companies back. this the water companies back. this is a point of principle here. isn't that what right has anybody to water, anybody got to say? water, you know, sky. know, which foods from the sky. and we're going to and you know, we're going to we're going to collect it and we're going to collect it and we're going to own it as a private company. we're going private company. and we're going to back to you. and to sell it back to you. and we're a profit out we're going to make a profit out of just strikes me that of it. just strikes me that that's one of the things in life that's one of the things in life that people shouldn't make a profit. many is a fantastic book. many of us watch it, but the starring the good life, starring paul embry. drink the water embry. you just drink the water that your own that you collect on your own bears are fantastic. where your water plastic water comes from is its plastic pellets, which are which of lindsey you may have read it lindsey you you may have read it called trousered called the rugged trousered philanthropists fantastic socialist way socialist three course of a way through. very, very thick socialist three course of a way throit's. very, very thick socialist three course of a way throit's a very, very thick socialist three course of a way throit's a wonderfulvery thick socialist three course of a way throit's a wonderful book hick socialist three course of a way throit's a wonderful book iick but it's a wonderful book i mean, three quarters of which were, confess. and it were, i must confess. and it makes the socialist on makes the socialist case on things on things things like this, on things like, know, the water like, you know, the water industry. it quite industry. and it says quite rightly the capitalists rightly that if the capitalists and privateers could bottle and the privateers could bottle air it back us to air and sell it back to us to breathe, they could bottle oxygen sell back to us to oxygen and sell it back to us to breathe. would do it. does breathe. they would do it. does anyone, thelma, let's take a

trip down lane and look trip down memory lane and look at television advert from at a television advert from 1989. this is when they were 1989. so this is when they were privatising the water companies. let's have a listen. remind ourselves . soon the ten water ourselves. soon the ten water and sewage businesses of england and sewage businesses of england and wales will be offered for sale. you can apply for shares in your local company or any of the others . register now and the others. register now and incentives could be yours. but the opportune 18 won't last forever to register for a prospectus or to 7 to 2 . 7 to 2, prospectus or to 7 to 2. 7 to 2, seven to. i do like looking at old at first. remember the tell said one was well british class . yeah. so let me ask you this if you think these if these was companies were in national also government ownership pretty much do you think this issue about pumping water into pumping sewage slurry into the waters would be better ? is that what would be better? is that what are you saying, that that's the

solution? well look, it wouldn't be a panacea. would never say be a panacea. i would never say that panacea, but do that it's a panacea, but i do think it would be better, because too the because i think too often the focus private companies is focus of private companies is all profit, is all about, all about profit, is all about, you know, shareholder dividends and receiving bonuses things and receiving bonuses and things like and too often, like that. and too often, because isn't on because the focus isn't on customer , customer customer service, customer service is a secondary issue for them. and i just think we show that actually there are some parts of the country's infrastructure, you know, water, energy, the railway system, which are important secrets which are two important secrets equal to the functioning of our country, to be left in private hands for people to run purely for water without for private profit water without question, just it's question, just think. it's bizarre believe that you're bizarre to believe that you're going better customer going to have better customer service state. i mean, service from the state. i mean, after all, some of us at least are old enough to remember british telecom. rail british telecom. british rail is appalling. come appalling. services will come and better than the and that was better than the system. was absolutely system. it was absolutely not. i me, it wasn't great. but better than the system all over the system. some of the use of this show, maybe one will know you're talking hat. look at talking out of your hat. look at how are subsidised how the railways are subsidised by taxpayer tune of

by the taxpayer to the tune of millions of pounds each year. and rubbish. it's and it's still rubbish. it's dirty, reliable always. dirty, it's not reliable always. it's franchise. so it's losing their franchise. so you best of both worlds you have the best of both worlds in i watch that, in your mind. when i watch that, i thought you just playing i thought you were just playing a different reaction a lot of different reaction to use pause moment misty use or pause my moment misty eyed watching an old eyed about watching an old advert or remembering it or whatever. reminded whatever. my was being reminded that when we privatised utilities this country for utilities in this country for a white swathe of people was the first time they ever acquired shares. it was an introduction to a whole system of being able to a whole system of being able to own and invest that they'd never admitted to before, never been admitted to before, felt had stake in felt that they had a stake in and for much. the pool would like to take that away from them. i thought that was great. well of well i'm a big supporter of employee share ownership schemes, they should schemes, by the way. they should be more work. so in currency one, not one, in principle, i'm not opposed you one those opposed to were you one of those people up that people that did take up that offer and buy those shares to do do i right at the moment cliff is one of view this as michel is one of my view this as michel i run a sewage treatment works and believe me when i say the industry needs be industry needs to be a non—profit making concern not necessarily national laws. he says remember british says he can remember british leyland steel, etc. he

leyland coal, steel, etc. he says but until the focus is on says, but until the focus is on providing infrastructure for the 21st the problems will 21st century, the problems will never cliff what about never go away. cliff what about scotland then? because in scotland then? because in scotland i find it very interesting today a scottish water is pretty much nationalised , right? so i was nationalised, right? so i was doing a bit of homework. they pumped sewage into scottish waterways. it's more than 14,000 times a day. sorry 14,000 times last year, which is 40 incidents per day. so i thought, hmm, is that a lot or not? equates to nearly 19,000 olympic sized swimming pools. nearly 19,000 olympic sized swimming pools . but get this, swimming pools. but get this, and this is the key point in scotland, just 4% of overflows are actually monitored in in scotland compared to 90% in england. so the thing is , not england. so the thing is, not only are they doing the same as what's happening in england , we what's happening in england, we don't even know the extent of how bad it is because they don't even track it really. and that is pretty much nationalised. so how is that better than what you know? because as i said a few moments ago, i don't believe

that nationalisation is a panacea that you say, right, this now public ownership this is now in public ownership . going to fine . everything is going to be fine and much on and dandy. much depends on whether there's whether or not there's investment depends the investment. much depends on the attitude of the government towards particular towards that particular nationalised industry. much depends who depends on the people who running there a whole running it. there are a whole number variables that could number of variables that could still bad or still make it a good, bad or indifferent system. that's the point. that when point. however is that when it comes question of what comes to the question of what should the main overriding should be the main overriding motive, should be drive motive, should it be the drive for should it be, you for profit or should it be, you know, the service, the service of and delivering the of the public and delivering the right service for the public in a owned system? it a publicly owned system? it would the would be the latter in the privatised of operation would be the latter in the pandised of operation would be the latter in the pand that's of operation would be the latter in the pand that's not of operation would be the latter in the pand that's not the »f operation would be the latter in the pand that's not the point. ation would be the latter in the pand that's not the point. what . and that's not the point. what the is that if in the the point is that if in the private sector, people will blame the company, if it's private sector, people will bl.the the company, if it's private sector, people will bl.the public mpany, if it's private sector, people will bl.the public sector, if it's private sector, people will bl.the public sector, you'll it's private sector, people will bl.the public sector, you'll say in the public sector, you'll say there's not enough money and the government's to blame. i'm government's to blame. no, i'm very supporting very happy supporting the government. very happy. you guys, you stand on it guys, where do you stand on it all? i've got to say, governments don't seem to be very actually doing the very good at actually doing the job currently job that they're currently responsible would responsible for. so why would you the you want to broaden the agreement scope is agreement and that scope is beyond you might have beyond me anyway. you might have a different view at home. give me thoughts on that i

me your thoughts on that when i come back in 2 minutes, i'll have your responses. have some of your responses. lots them to that lots and lots of them to that topic. i also want to talk topic. but i also want to talk topic. but i also want to talk to you about wimbledon. you might recall there ban on might recall there was a ban on russian players russian and belarussian players this it's lifted. you this year. it's been lifted. you just saw it in the headlines there that has been called there that that has been called immoral. your immoral. is it? oh, no. your thoughts i'll see you .

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if you live with a partner, you could be eligible for pension credit, even if you own your home or have savings. it's worth, on average, £3,500 a year and you could get help with heating bills and more, plus up to £900 in cost of living payments. in two. hello there. i'm michelle joo, recouping your company right through till 7:00 tonight. i'll stay in the political consultant is alongside beyonce is paul embry, the firefighter writer and broadcaster . lots of divided and broadcaster. lots of divided opinion is on that last water topic. it'sjust opinion is on that last water topic. it's just been looking at whether or not it should be nationalised re nationalised i should say and whether or not you should actually start pushing bosses a little bit harder if they do things that perhaps they shouldn't be doing, perhaps they shouldn't be doing, perhaps if that's criminal

perhaps even if that's criminal charges or not. alison says apparently the water complaints were worse before were far worse before privatisation and then even privatisation and then they even invested less than what they do now . you want only british now. you want only british companies , they're all british companies, they're all british shareholders because you reckon they can be held to account more easily . i'm they can be held to account more easily. i'm sure they can be held to account more easily . i'm sure about that. easily. i'm sure about that. della says all national supplies of essential services must be made to reinvest a fixed percentage of annual profits into maintaining the infrastructure before they pay out any bonus or dividends. infrastructure before they pay out any bonus or dividends . and out any bonus or dividends. and someone else has that kind of similar view as well. but do you think that the government should return them? graham says they were all sold off because the government could afford them . it government could afford them. it couldn't afford them in the first place, ricky says. they should definitely be should all definitely be nationalised present. they nationalised at present. they just not giving value for money and using that change. if, let's just say rishi sunak perhaps was in ownership for them to any question, i suppose it's both for that view and for poole . if for that view and for poole. if you're going to renationalise these things, are you going to

adequately the people adequately compensate the people from taking your from him? you're taking your assets it's to assets if you are, it's going to be one the biggest cheques be one of the biggest cheques written history written in the history of government. if you're not, how are you going to have faith in the future of government the future of british government and investment in this country? the future of british government and inv knowent in this country? the future of british government and inv know you1 this country? the future of british government and invknow you might:ountry? the future of british government and invknow you might:ountwhat people know you might nick what they've it's they've invested in. yeah, it's an ongoing really when an ongoing debate really when you back into you take industries back into pubuc you take industries back into public should public ownership, should and should compensated for should people be compensated for it? i tend to think they should be. think fair and be. i didn't think fair and right that i mean no, no . right that i mean not. no, no. you know, i mean, particularly on the left where people argue for renationalisation, they often make the should be often make the case it should be renationalisation without compensation. i'm not one of those.i compensation. i'm not one of those. i mean, you mention , hey, those. i mean, you mention, hey, in long run, i think these in the long run, i think these things for. this things ultimately paid for. this is right. this one of the is right. this is one of the problems i have with the extreme left. come out with left. they just come out with such and look at them such lunacy and i look at them and think, how can you even expect to be taken seriously if you've don't know, you you've got, i don't know, you ordinary woman on the ordinary man and woman on the street owning shares often we have pensions as have them in our pensions as well. how you? think can well. how are you? think you can just reduce that to a zero? it for reason than we for no reason other than we think because of the

think we should because of the government we have this principle that the government should it's for should own it. i think it's for the and the economic the beds and the economic policy. don't start you policy. don't even start if you hold it a million miles hold it from a million miles away glenside is full of away and glenside is full of holes, people argue holes, some people would argue that quite a lot of that they've made quite a lot of money out over many years, so they've had good at it. so they've had a good run at it. so where do you the line and where do you draw the line and so bought a house so someone's bought a house that's appreciate it in value. you and you go, you come along and you go, right, made a of right, you've made a bit of money. taking that off. you money. i'm taking that off. you wind ludicrous. wind up in ludicrous. furthermore some people will have benefited because their pension scheme is invested in the going be the utility. you're going to be nationalised another of nationalised and another of their someone a their colleagues or someone at a comparable a different comparable firm and a different business so business hasn't. right. so suddenly approaching suddenly you're approaching retirement age, whatever that age the future , and age may be in the future, and you that you have a you find that you have a different value now different value pension now because government because the government zero rated the shares rated the value of the shares you in that utility compared you had in that utility compared to your brother twin for to your brother your twin for this sake this for argument's sake is working another business working in another business which then which at a meeting halfway then we agree with we both agree with nationalisation with compensation. well make compensation. well you make me me i for a moment, me then. i don't for a moment, but i was you trashing but i was doing you trashing the. i'm i was willing the. okay see i'm i was willing to compromise on the

compensation . won't compensation. you won't compromise on the ownership of this it's the this country. well, it's the country's the country's balance sheet, by the way. lot of these extreme way. if a lot of these extreme leftists get power . leftists get into power. speaking alex has just speaking of which, alex has just made me aware of an interesting tweet that the labour party put out when they got their sums catastrophic , utterly wrong. catastrophic, utterly wrong. i'll bringing that to you i'll be bringing that to you before the programme before the end of the programme . at it and see . when i look at it and see what's going on. in the meantime though, talk wimbledon, though, let's talk wimbledon, shall because might shall we? because you might remember a ban on remember that there was a ban on russian belarussian players russian and belarussian players that's been scrapped. so that's now been scrapped. so they allowed to play in they will be allowed to play in they will be allowed to play in the summer . they will be allowed to play in the summer. but what the courts this summer. but what are saying that ? you just are you saying to that? you just heard in headlines. heard it in the headlines. they're being described as immoral and that's by ukraine. what do you think? should these players be able play or not? players be able to play or not? it's immoral. players be able to play or not? it's immoral . no, i it's immoral. no, i think i think it's the right decision. i think it's the right decision. i think they should be allowed to play. i think there's a difference between in dividual competitors are there in competitors who are there in their own name and just happen to of a particular to be of a particular nationality . and for example, it nationality. and for example, it seems but whether it's seen such

as russia in the football world cup, for example , i would cup, for example, i would explicitly be represented in that country as a country. so i don't see any argument for saying to individual competitor those who insist only happen to be russian or belarus and you shouldn't be allowed to compete. that strikes me really as as a reverse form of racism . it reverse form of racism. it strikes me. well, actually, not even a reverse well strikes me as blatant racism, saying to people because of your nationality, even though you yourself not anything yourself have not done anything wrong in this wrong here, even though in this case of those people may case some of those people may well everything that well oppose everything that putin done in putin has done, has done in terms of ukraine. but we say, no, you can't compete anyway. and i was disturbed and the rest of the community hasn't followed the decision that wimbledon took last year. and at the same time, we've seen other we've we've seen other stuff. we've seen , you know, for example, in seen, you know, for example, in russia, young russian concert russia, a young russian concert pianist banned from taking pianist being banned from taking part some concert in london. part in some concert in london. it's being it's struck me as being obscenely unfair. so i think on this occasion, the lawn tennis

association have put right a wrong . and you know that those wrong. and you know that those players will be competing, have a genuine question about about that position, which i understand. and you express. well but people many people compete at the olympics in individual sports. of course, there are other team sports. the olympics. what about individuals at i think at the olympics? no, i think it's it's fair question it's i think it's fair question . in the past i think . i think in the past i think i'm correct in saying and russia particularly when individuals competed for russia, they competed for russia, they competed for russia, they competed for the russian sporting federation. and that was the flag that went up. if they won a particular medal . so they won a particular medal. so i there are workarounds to i think there are workarounds to be done in terms of saying, look, if a country has done something so in terms of something so wrong in terms of violated international law and invaded another sovereign country, we don't country, then actually we don't particularly want their flags flying flagpoles when of flying on flagpoles when one of their wins medal . and their people wins a medal. and that we should that doesn't mean we should stop the from competing, but the people from competing, but we of saying, we can find a way of saying, look, the country look, this is not the country being represented here. so, yeah, it's interesting in the chess russians didn't

chess world when russians didn't want to compete as russians anymore , not least because the anymore, not least because the state trying to prevent them state was trying to prevent them and them gulags and so and send them to gulags and so forth, they were beaten enough sometimes when they they sometimes when they if they defected, they actually fought the and they competed the full hog and they competed either country or either for another country or indeed a stateless individual for the chess world champion. it's one of the few world competitions we just had stateless contesting for stateless people contesting for its championship because it was russians who had fled russia . my russians who had fled russia. my question, i suppose then about thatis question, i suppose then about that is these are people who are still russian or belarus. these are still they're still nationals of the place concerned and sanctions in the end. yes, they are blunt tools in the way you describe it. they're kind of meant to be you know, they're meant to be you know, they're meant to be things that make people gosh, i really people think, gosh, i really want this situation to end. they're meant to be things that's coercive. that's fine, coercive. i completely with your completely sympathise with your point. people point. some of these people will be facing cosmopolitan, be western facing cosmopolitan, putin hating people who've done nothing do with the regime nothing to do with the regime but can painting with a russian flag you . it does of flag on you. it does kind of connote that . well, let's face

connote that. well, let's face it, there's some strings attached because attached on this, right? because they'll feature this they'll be able to feature this here. these players subject to competing as neutral athletes and certain and complying with certain conditions . the conditions are conditions. the conditions are as follows , that they'll agree as follows, that they'll agree not support russian and not to support the russian and belarussian states, all their regime and leaders, and that they will not receive funding from belarussian from russian and belarussian states, including sponsorship from from companies operated or controlled by them. so this is where you lose me, right? because sometimes some of these people will not be able to enter into agreements like that because their are still into agreements like that be russia, 1eir are still into agreements like that be russia, going are still into agreements like that be russia, going russia, still in russia, going to russia, even if are effectively if they are now effectively emigres, expatriates, whatever you want it. and i think you want to call it. and i think it's very unfair effectively it's very unfair to effectively coerce some to give up coerce some people to give up their because they've coerce some people to give up theiconcerns because they've coerce some people to give up theiconcerns about;e they've got concerns about their families home. families back home. i think i probably arrive at the same position paul, but by position as paul, but by different routes , i wouldn't different routes, and i wouldn't make commitments make people make commitments like the reasons like that because of the reasons i'd think wimbledon's like that because of the reasons i'd it think wimbledon's like that because of the reasons i'd it right think wimbledon's like that because of the reasons i'd it right because mbledon's like that because of the reasons i'd it right because whenion's like that because of the reasons i'd it right because when you got it right because when you have a team sport competition in a team competition in that sport, like the cup , sport, like the davis cup, russia and russia is banned and unambiguously state because that's the russian team. but the

individual compete. individual rules can't compete. i that . so think they i accept that. so i think they probably at the right probably arrived at the right point, quite point, something quite different. not what different. but that's not what i wouldn't wouldn't wouldn't i wouldn't oblige athletes the for athletes to do that for the for the i given. i suppose the reasons i given. i suppose the reasons i given. i suppose the point athletes the other point about athletes being put in this situation is if you're a footballer, for argument's look at argument's sake, and you look at this and think, well, it's not my fault that happen to be my fault that i happen to be good a team rather than good in a team sport rather than an individual sport. why am i getting while getting punished while those individuals there's individuals are not i? there's a there's wider debate to had there's a wider debate to be had about, you know, where do you draw the line? because some people would say, think they people would say, i think they would a look, okay, would have a case, look, okay, if going target russia if we're going to target russia and russian sports people or and say russian sports people or russian teams, shouldn't convenience russian teams, shouldn't conv some :e might russian teams, shouldn't convsome:e might say, russian teams, shouldn't conv some :e might say, well, and some people might say, well, what didn't what about britain? didn't we break national law we break into national law when we invaded iraq? america, we would never by no one, floated the idea but saudi idea of us being. but saudi arabia just part in arabia have just taken part in the recent football cup. the recent football world cup. they're no they're waging war in yemen. no one campaign for saudi one seems to campaign for saudi arabia to be banned. so, you know, it strikes me that there is often is when it is a as there often is when it comes foreign policy and these sorts issues. a hell of lot

sorts of issues. a hell of a lot of hypocrisy at play in our approach. mean, that's not to approach. i mean, that's not to defame way. people defame putin in any way. people know position that. know my position on that. however, no doubt however, there's no doubt there's some double standards going oh, come going on. clive says, oh, come on, michelle, what's worse? really missing a game of tennis or your life destroyed. or having your life destroyed. but respectfully , clive, but respectfully, clive, of course going say course everyone's going to say a war is worse than a game of tennis. obviously but the question is, suspect more more question is, i suspect more more to point are you, as an to the point are you, as an individual, responsive ? well, individual, responsive? well, essentially for the actions of your government and should you be punished, an individual literally for those actions? that's is more the point, i suspect. anyway going to take a quick break. when i come back, we'll have some of your responses to that. but listen, when 2000 technology leaders issue a warning and they say that we are in a dangerous situation in which could potentially result in a threat to humanity if you ask me, we're going to set up and listen, we're discussing that in 2 minutes .

hi there, michelle dewberry . i'm hi there, michelle dewberry. i'm keeping your company till 7:00 tonight. alex the political consultant, is alongside me, as is paul embry, the firefighter writer and broadcaster . lots of writer and broadcaster. lots of you guys getting in touch about that last topic. you seem to be quite divided, actually about whether or not russian athletes should be able to compete in wimbledon . billie says, you do wimbledon. billie says, you do not think . they should, but you not think. they should, but you don't tell me why they're fascinated to know your reasons , brendon says they should definitely remain barred at elite sports. people in russia come under a lot of respect , so come under a lot of respect, so let them use their voice to tell the people of russia that what putin doing is actually wrong. you do realise that you're giving them essentially a death sentence you, brendon sentence and don't you, brendon , that these , you're suggesting that these elite should elite athletes should be literally on stage and literally going on stage and condemning leader ? i mean, condemning their leader? i mean, that would take a brave man or

woman. that's what i'd say on that one. nigel less of the opposite. he says, shame on wimbledon . lots of divided wimbledon. lots of divided opinions , that is for sure. but opinions, that is for sure. but let me ask you this, if you could imagine a group of kind of sciences technology people creating artificial intelligence with a view to create essentially robots, you might think, that sounds like a good movie . what they are then tell movie. what they are then tell you that this group of people then kind of got their heads together on an earth and letter basically saying that what they are essentially creating could have a profound risk to society and humanity, and that there asking governments to get involved . what would you think, involved. what would you think, too, that sounds like a horror movie, doesn't it? but this is all indeed real life among these signatories is people like elon mosk. it's an open letter from the future of life institute. now, this really caught my attention because a lot of people might kind of switch off and they go, i don't really get this artificial intelligence thing. and i'm a fan. you know,

i am a fan of technology . thing. and i'm a fan. you know, i am a fan of technology. i think it's great. and evolution all it. but there is all the rest of it. but there is all the rest of it. but there is a worry here there's a real worry here that there's this race essentially to create the next kind of evolution, the more of more intelligent piece of software this is not software that if this is not managed, know, i'm going to managed, you know, i'm going to be and extreme. it could be radical and extreme. it could potentially turn back on those . potentially turn back on those. yeah, fan of technology. yeah, i'm a fan of technology. i technology in various guises has lifted the majority of humanity out of drudgery and a better quality of life from the very time of inventing the wheel to milling and so forth. and those things came with their own opposition, right? there are people who to smash the spinning jenny and so forth. i've become a of technology. also a fan of technology. i'm also a fan fiction and fan of science fiction and machine becoming cleverer than the creator, or at least overtaking the creator, is a constant one in science fiction . this, to me, is a powerful letter, not least . i mean, it's letter, not least. i mean, it's not suggesting, you know, tomorrow's smart, it's more skynet going to become self—aware and take over nuclear missiles . self—aware and take over nuclear missiles. but the notion

self—aware and take over nuclear missiles . but the notion that missiles. but the notion that over time , this kind of over time, this kind of technology is going to become out of control is think good one. trouble is for me , they one. trouble is for me, they they kind of kitchen sink their letter and throw in every possible objection , you know, possible objection, you know, propaganda on the airwaves and say they get, i say all they get, they get, i think, quite political, you know, we're getting know, because we're not getting our in our san our way enough in our san francisco mindset we we francisco mindset. we know we need to intervene if they need to try to intervene if they stuck which stuck instead, which is potential threat to the future of which i think is a of humanity, which i think is a powerful enough motive, then i think they probably convince me a little more on this letter. they asking the same we they are asking the same we should ask ourselves should let machines our information machines flood our information channels with propaganda and on truth . what do they mean by truth. what do they mean by that? see, there's no that? right. see, there's no actually, they don't give a single they single example of what they mean. welcome the effects mean. and i welcome the effects of the of technology in the dissemination of news media. dissemination of news and media. and people watching this and many people watching this show welcome the advent show will welcome the advent social is the social media, which is the ability discuss with one ability to discuss with one another that before they another things that before they were told from above right were just told from above right ? so that i approve of that kind of technology our of technology enabling our ability to discuss led

ability to discuss and led things that didn't have things that we didn't have before. just assert it. they things that we didn't have befortolust assert it. they things that we didn't have beforto explain.rt it. they things that we didn't have beforto explain. itit. they things that we didn't have beforto explain. it goesay things that we didn't have beforto explain. it goes on. have to explain. it goes on. should away all the should we automate away all the jobs, the fulfilling jobs, including the fulfilling ones? should we develop non—human might non—human minds that might eventually outsmart eventually outnumber, outsmart and , replace those, and and obsolete, replace those, and should risk loss of control of our civilisation ? i would answer our civilisation? i would answer no to all of the above all. they could run a spell check on this as well. i mean, obviously obsolete or lessened. you can't you can't always halts progress technology. but what you can do is you can regulate and harness it. so that actually it serves the common good and works for people rather than working against people. and we haven't been very good at doing that in the past. i don't think in the western world. i mean, i remember when the internet was created and developed and, you know, came on stream and email and everything else. people said, this is going to be great. this is really going to improve people's work life balance. it's going to take away a lot of the drudgery, a lot of the work, you know, this interconnectedness

that we have now. and actually, when look look at the when you look at you look at the internet you look at email, internet and you look at email, what i think, is what it's done, i think, is in many terms of work many respects in terms of work life is actually made life balance is actually made things because boss things worse because your boss now has got you really all hours of the day or night. he can get you when you're sitting the you when you're sitting on the beach in which same beach in greece, in which same with mobile phones so with mobile phones and stuff. so you know, is a clear case you know, that is a clear case of where technology. technology, i been harnessed i don't think has been harnessed particularly in terms particularly well in terms of improving of improving people's quality of life balance. and life and work life balance. and so you at home, you don't so you guys at home, you don't really be having any of really seem to be having any of this. you're saying it just a one overtake humanity. just don't placate michele. says don't placate michele. pete says just from these just unplug the power from these guys. will not happen, says guys. it will not happen, says anthony. i requires maintenance against management, etc. respectfully, i think you guys are missing the point because the whole purpose of artificial is that it gets more and more intelligent as time goes on. so you talk about pull out the plug. well, you know, the probably won't need plugs will be self—charging and all the research and sits in the cloud then order unplug it you'd then in order to unplug it you'd

have unplug everything. so have to unplug everything. so that work. next stage that won't work. the next stage of thinking about is of thinking about this is machines can invent other machines that can invent other machines, we're that far machines, and we're not that far off of activity. and when off sort of activity. and when we machines becoming we talk about machines becoming self—aware you could make the self—aware or you could make the case on some tests that these machines are becoming self—aware already. well, i think there's a real danger. the really makes humans lazy . and in a lot of humans lazy. and in a lot of i think we've well past it takes away people's creativity and stuff i think that would be a real thing you know what's and you can remind me you can clip up this and watch it back in years to come and you can sit there. go, michelle was right because i am telling you, we need to heed the warnings of these right now these people because right now technology away not technology is running away not which not necessarily which is not necessarily a bad thing but infrastructure controls checks and balances and all the rest of it surrounding it and not keeping up with it. these guys are asking for a six month pause. i completely agree with to you are not. i with them to you are not. i don't go anywhere. i will be back into when i've got a very

important with important topic to discuss with you. one is the maths . when it you. one is the maths. when it comes to level two, they actually are any good can actually are there any good can they up all rest of they add up and all the rest of it or not? and secondly, this is very important indeed and traditional english breakfast. what be in you tell what should be in it? you tell me i'll see you .

in two. hi there. i'm michelle chipper and keep me company till 7:00 tonight. alex, dana, the political is alongside me as is paul embry, writer , firefighter paul embry, writer, firefighter and broadcaster . we've just been and broadcaster. we've just been frantically doing some in the break. let me just bring this up for you, because alex is just like this to me. chance, by the way, was sitting for you christmas. yeah this is about to be a television fail. and when i spun around on my chair and almost fell off my drink, she's gone. almost fell off my drink, she's gone . get this. messing up on gone. get this. messing up on the screen and tell us what's

going on. this is labour. i feel if you're listening, not watch thing. this is a tweet from labour's twitter. i mean, at this rate , yes. the actual this rate, yes. the actual formal account and they've said here is what the tories are costing you even on their own terms, as opposed to on their terms. they say it cost you these things under the conservative party and anyone you teach children, you you teach your children, you look column and got a six, look at a column and got a six, a and an eight on it. a four and an eight on it. right. that is not going to be a zero when you've added them all up. it's very true. it's going to eight and you're going to be an eight and you're going to be an eight and you're going to carry the one into the next column. right. and the most beautiful about and beautiful thing about this and so get their sums wrong so they get their sums wrong when try to their when they try to mock their opposition. most beautiful thing about nobody coming about this is nobody from coming up saying what up with the idea to saying what the would be, to doing the the costs would be, to doing the graphic design, to getting it ready into a tizzy. shall ready to go into a tizzy. shall we this campaign? yes. we go with this campaign? yes. let's prescott. nobody the let's go. prescott. nobody the numbers. i think it's pretty clear what's here. come clear what's happened here. come on. labour party has on. i think labour party has added a secret of £20, which added a secret tip of £20, which they out. yeah, they didn't want out. yeah, i mean, it tory? it's a tory.

mean, is it tory? it's a tory. you wouldn't understand that because you've never tip anyone but party much but the labour party being much more their £20 it more generous given their £20 it but to highlight. but didn't want to highlight. that's going that's obviously what's going on. you're going to if you're on. if you're going to if you're going this this is one of going to do this this is one of the that people have. the problems that people have. people often disengage from politics and it's like, just tell details tell us the truth. details matter. if you're going to have this, going point this, if you're going to point score, with score, particularly with numbers, numbers. numbers, do get your numbers. i must i got my numbers must confess i got my numbers wrong, but that was only because. was only because. no, that was only because. no, that was only because i was doing it quickly. and i thought was an eight and i thought there was an eight because when you look because when you when you look fast, the it did look fast, the zeros, it did look like eight. but got that. like an eight. but i got that. you put your graphic you should put your graphic right. your graphic, right. if it was your graphic, you for a job at labour you look for a job at labour party. i was going to say and i know in a zero when you're looking at it quickly, they do all going to be all blend into who's going to be the person to diane the first person to say diane abbott. most of these on the graphic oh diana but that was absolutely it? was absolutely awful, wasn't it? was that was trying that what she was trying to calculate, please? yes there's a one police. no. no, one of the police. no. yeah, no, we was a while ago. now we see that was a while ago. now remember that. all right. let's talk about very important

matters on english breakfast. it's weekend coming it's almost the weekend coming up, isn't it? that's why this is very important. our campaign group, breakfast group, the english breakfast society. i work for them society. i could work for them anyway. reckons that anyway. it reckons that hash browns banned. is law browns should be banned. is law is his drink already? is finished his drink already? i can't keep this lot can't keep up with this lot anyway. hash browns should anyway. the hash browns should be apparently be banned and apparently replaced traditional be banned and apparently replaced bubble traditional be banned and apparently replaced bubble trsqueak.. swords. i bubble and squeak. what you for that? so what do you make for that? so i'm quite prone to a bit of bubble squeak, but not bubble and squeak, but i'm not dogmatic about this. not least because baked are because baked beans are a relatively intervention relatively recent intervention an the great an interloper into the great british an british breakfast. it was an advertising the advertising campaign in the sixties beans sixties that put baked beans into fried breakfast and into the fried breakfast and i don't like mushrooms, so i take what people think. mushrooms are core ingredients, obviously core ingredients, so obviously i have minded, on have to be open minded, but on balance, would agree hashbrown balance, i would agree hashbrown should there. you're should not be in there. you're supposed have something that should not be in there. you're suppo up have something that should not be in there. you're suppo up iextra something that should not be in there. you're suppo up iextra fatiething that should not be in there. you're suppo up iextra fat and 1g that soaks up the extra fat and grease goodness from a from grease and goodness from a from a bread. yeah, a that's called bread. yeah, exactly. hash browns are exactly. because hash browns are too oily and hard to actually soak so you want soak things up. so you want a fried slice want a piece fried slice or you want a piece of toast , or you want bubbling of toast, or you want bubbling squeak. would not hash browns. squeak. i would not hash browns. no hash browns for you . it's no hash browns for you. it's a demonstration of the creeping

americanisation of our culture, isn't it? let's be blunt about it. and i would call for exemplary prison sentences for anybody who decided hash browns on an english breakfast. i think it's absolutely right. we should have a hash browns tariff. i think actually we need a hash browns tariff to deter imports of browns contaminating our of hash browns contaminating our culture and our cuisine. it's shocking. black pot eggs out of a big black pudding. shocking. black pot eggs out of a big black pudding . do you? a big black pudding. do you? yeah, that's a mess. american that doesn't matter. and i'd give it a message. no i have no objection it. ijust. i'm objection to it. ijust. i'm like, all right, fantastic. bofisl like, all right, fantastic. boris i don't believe you. you've and said, you've just emailed and said, can help out? must be can you help me out? it must be an thing, but what a hash an age thing, but what a hash brown. yeah. how can you not know a hash brown is? know what a hash brown is? i can't that. i don't say can't indulge that. i don't say that seriously, definitely that seriously, you definitely know is. surely know what hash brown is. surely you are saying, chris is saying the most important consideration . is the ratio . the full english is the ratio of bacon sausage, of bacon to sausage, which should always be 2 to 1 in bacon is fair. agree do you. yeah. well, what ratio. i sometimes omit the bacon, which is the

britain's favourite ingredient for me. sausage egg and baked beans along with toast or something. that's enough , you something. that's enough, you know. no fighting . that's non know. no fighting. that's non english. that's my starting. that's my starting point. that's the cool . i will have bacon on the cool. i will have bacon on top, but the core of an english breakfast if i could, if i was down to the irreducible, it would be that. do you think do you think people abroad ever have yeah. british have an english? yeah. british people that's yeah it is people that's on it. yeah it is very cool. i mean, the costa del sol. yeah, yeah, yeah they do. you can't walk around town. there's loads of places and they show like fools all show like only fools and all says you get your english says you can get your english breakfast oldies. yeah, i know. but think actually any but do you think actually any foreign you think people foreign people you think people in japan wake in and go out in japan wake up in and go out to cafe say, can i have to the cafe and say, can i have a full english, please? the japanese the japanese japanese people or the japanese people? don't know. are people? yeah, i don't know. are you japanese person watching you a japanese person watching this? it? this? do you go out it? unlikely, i would imagine, isn't it? i don't know. i don't know. i clive you've been in so i've read so we are emails read out so we are emails tonight is you're looking at says it says i cannot believe it i finally agree with paul embery

well he's coming around like most people do in the end he got there in the end at about what though about i'm not sure i disagree all yeah that's all i've got time for. have a great weekend, everybody. enjoy your fry up. hello there. i'm greg hurst and welcome to our latest broadcast met office . broadcast from the met office. cloudy start to the cloudy and damp start to the week end, but it should improve as we move into sunday. more in the way of sunny spells developing today's low pressure system out of the way, system is moving out of the way, but does leave a legacy of but it does leave a legacy of cloud across cloud outbreaks of rain across the on saturday but into the uk on saturday but into sunday high pressure starts to build in. yes, it will lead to some chillier nights, but we should start to see more in the way sunny spells. not many way of sunny spells. not many clear spells this evening and overnight. this low pressure still bringing outbreaks of cloud rain, particularly cloud and rain, particularly across southern parts of across central southern parts of england into wales, across northern ireland, the rain steady here, outbreaks of heavier possible to heavier rain possible to temperatures holding though temperatures holding up though as largely mid single as a result largely mid single figures . but as a result largely mid single figures. but it does mean a cloudy start to saturday

morning. best of the sunny spells across northern scotland. few of sunshine possible down the western side of scotland into northwest england. as we move into the afternoon. but a lot of cloud around drizzly outbreaks of rain moving in from the sea to affect eastern the north sea to affect eastern areas and a nice weather front weakening later on, perhaps heading drier and heading a bit drier and brighter. temperatures brighter. and temperatures overall in, the west 1415 celsius, but a cool feel easily breezy in the east into the evening patchy rain pushes a little bit further westwards. this weather still giving some rain across parts of northern ireland, fringes of wales and western scotland , too, but a lot western scotland, too, but a lot of cloud around once more heading into the early hours of sunday, perhaps one or two clearer spells developing eventually eastern scotland , eventually eastern scotland, northeast england. so turning a little chilly here. but elsewhere, temperatures holding up a frost free start for many on sunday. yes, that a cloudy start, but it should soon start to brighten up. we'll see more in the way. sunny spells developing through developing as we move through the most it will be a the day and most it will be a much drier brighter afternoon on

sunday. and temperatures again, not reaching towards the not too bad reaching towards the mid—teens and then high pressure holds the beginning of holds on into the beginning of next week to monday and tuesday. plenty of spells

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