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before we kick off fastest before we kick off the fastest hourin before we kick off the fastest hour in the business, it's your saturday night news with aaron armstrong . hi there. let's get armstrong. hi there. let's get you up to date with all the headunes you up to date with all the headlines here on this saturday evening. absolute carnage and a shambles. just two descriptions of the delays that have beset the port of dover. and some passengers have been forced to wait more than 16 hours. several coach loads of adults and children have been there since yesterday . the port which is yesterday. the port which is declared a critical has put the delays to the lengthy french border and sheer volume. it claims to have had 15% more coaches this year than anticipated . labour leader sir anticipated. labour leader sir keir starmer says many families will have experienced this frustration before . think the frustration before. think the nature of the frustration will be not again. this is not the time that we have problems at dover and the government needs to get a grip this and plan

ahead. we can't have every summer holiday, every easter holiday, same old problem. holiday, the same old problem. and so the government to get a grip of this actually help grip of this and actually help people who are just people out who are just trying to get away for a few days holiday, a symbolic blow and a slap in the face to the international community. that's ukraine's response to taking the presidency the un security presidency of the un security council, an international body responsible for maintaining peace. each of the council's 50 members takes the role for a month on a rotating basis . now, month on a rotating basis. now, russia last held it in february 2022, when it launched an invasion of ukraine. volodymyr zelenskyy key says the decision shows the institution's total bankruptcy in line with former. there is no form of terror that russia has not already committed and there will be no reason will stop the reform of global institute actions. in particular, the un security council. the reform that obviously overdue to prevent a terrorist state and any other states that wants to be a terrorist from destroying the peace. terrorists must lose,

must be held accountable , terror must be held accountable, terror and not preside near who be would at least people have been killed after tornadoes swept through the south and midwest of the united states? the state of emergency has been declared in arkansas and in missouri where homes have been and vehicles upended. homes have been and vehicles upended . officials say more than upended. officials say more than 40 tornado reports were made across seven states on friday. illinois. indiana alabama and mississippi also impacted . and mississippi also impacted. and government plans that could see polluting water companies facing unlimited fines have been dismissed by opposition parties. there were on average than 800 sewage spills per day into england's in the last year. that was according to official figures . was according to official figures. ministers want to was according to official figures . ministers want to lift figures. ministers want to lift the current penalty cap of £250,000. but labour's described it as a flimsy regurgitation of . old ideas . tv online. past the . old ideas. tv online. past the radio and tune in. this is gb

news. but now it is time for our new show stopping and enjoy it . new show stopping and enjoy it. yes, it is saturday night and you're with the saturday five. i'm emily carver and i can promise you that we are in for a lively hour. let's crack on with tonight's first debate. now that darren is going to tell us why, actress and comedian burke has got it all wrong about wokeness. let's the clock , folks. let's start the clock, folks. kathy burke , she says they're kathy burke, she says they're calling you woke if you call out that things. now those that preach at the altar of woke like kathy you like to tell us that they're the good guys right. that they dare to fend the baddies. but actually, i would argue that they have brought about a new intolerance . britain about a new intolerance. britain the woke worldview says that it's way or the highway . right

it's way or the highway. right that if you don't say this increasingly narrow world view, then you stand to lose your job. you stand to lose livelihood. you stand to lose livelihood. you stand to lose livelihood. you stand to lose your status even your friends and family. you don't parrot the right lines we've seen this time , time we've seen this time, time again. it is a new intolerance and you'll be banned from social accounts. i can't imagine . i accounts. i can't imagine. i can't tell you the amount of times i've been banned from facebook, for example, walks as it likes diversity , but not it likes diversity, but not diversity of thought. walks it likes freedom, but not free speech. i'm out of time. but the coffee bug is a book by name and back by nature. there we go. just in time . now i think a spot just in time. now i think a spot on when you talk about diversity of opinion, it seems like. well, the woke is if we're going to talk talk it's cool though that all they seem to care about is diversity of skin colour, sexuality, identity essentially and not what's actually in your

brain. yeah, exactly . and i brain. yeah, exactly. and i mean, you know, kathy burke , mean, you know, kathy burke, lawrence, i'd come across her a couple of times. she doesn't like you very much. no, she doesn't. and along with the what's happened you and fairytale of new york, they didn't like me. oh, yes, but where was her, james dreyfuss, exactly these are genuine claims. dreyfuss, of course, for viewers, was in gimme, gimme give the hugely successful give me the hugely successful gimme, alongside give me the hugely successful gimm�*burke alongside give me the hugely successful gimm�*burke . alongside give me the hugely successful gimm�*burke . and alongside give me the hugely successful gimm�*burke . and he's alongside give me the hugely successful gimm�*burke . and he's comegside give me the hugely successful gimm�*burke . and he's come oute kathy burke. and he's come out and said, actually, he believes biological sex. don't say biological sex. oh, don't say that. that's racist. he's just another . there he is that. that's racist. he's just another. there he is on that. that's racist. he's just another . there he is on screen another. there he is on screen for . our viewers on telly . for. our viewers on telly. lawrence, i just think it shows that we're creating a sort of atmosphere of here, aren't we? it's an embarrassment. she's an embarrassment to showbusiness. but i think she's being ignored now . you know, her best songs now. you know, her best songs were given to her by harry enfield and other talented people, and she's just trying to find political relevance. find some political relevance. she's but just to she's a bore off to. but just to add diversity of thought add some diversity of thought to the conversation , i think we the conversation, i think if we take maybe the original meaning of work meant which a lot of

african—american djs use of being awake to if we that as being awake to if we that as being fact is kathy burke said was wrong shouldn't we all be woke in that respect if all work is being alive in a way injustice, then aren't we always 7 injustice, then aren't we always ? this is what she specifically in what she she she was so non—specific. i was an actor until i was killed. but it was it's i'm specific with the use my words as woke as it as a word is pointless anyway but you know she specific she didn't say what it meant she was deliberately deliberately non—specific in trying to come across as a nice, lovely, fluffy, inclusive person. done actually person. what she's done actually be really, really exclusive in what she's saying. because what she's saying, unless she's basically saying, unless you subscribe to my very narrow definition word, then definition of this word, then you racist. you are you are a racist. you are a homophobe, you are a transphobe and are a bad person. can i just and are a bad person. can ijust say little word of warning out say a little word of warning out there wants to there to anyone who wants to shackle themselves to this woke bngade? shackle themselves to this woke brigade? they drop you like a stone the second

stone in a flash. the second there's people decide there's 20 people who decide that don't you on twitter. that they don't you on twitter. i'm sorry, your workmates in i'm sorry, but your workmates in the arts are not going to be there. you. let's play the clip of both talking this in of both talking about this in off and you woke if you off the back and you woke if you call out friends basically if you're not racist, you're woke . you're not racist, you're woke. if you're not homophobic . oh, if you're not homophobic. oh, you woke be woke . okay, you woke be woke. okay, speedwork i'm going to be. would you say that everyone on this panelis you say that everyone on this panel is racist, intolerant and all the rest of it? because we disagree with what cathy? that. no, none of you are racist and none of you are intolerant. otherwise you wouldn't be here talking to me, would you ? look, talking to me, would you? look, i cathy was saying i think what cathy was saying was was trying to use the was she was trying to use the original definition woke, original definition of woke, which as i mentioned, a which was, as i mentioned, a phrase that americans phrase that african americans used we've got to be used to say, we've got to be awake injustice. it's not just being civilised. and i think, well, i suppose yes, i think civilised way, civilised is another way, another the work. another way of putting the work. people say that being people would say that being civilised racist. the problem civilised is racist. the problem is this is the obvious issue

with what she's doing is that woke has changed in its meaning it putting identity it now means putting identity above all it means categorising people by their sex, by their genden people by their sex, by their gender, by their gender identity, by their race and then dictating where they stand on issues. by that vow that i said my question, it's pretty of her to say that woke meant that perhaps that is what it means. thatis perhaps that is what it means. that is what it meant initially. and does anyone disagree with the initial. i get exactly what you mean, but what i see there is symptomatic of depressing is symptomatic of the depressing state affairs that find state of affairs that we find a lot of celebrities she's lot of celebrities what she's saying just guff she's saying that is just guff she's gone on so i don't say gone on she's so if i don't say anything other than this i could get counsel she just tosses get counsel so she just tosses out about this, that and out lies about this, that and the other. and actually frankly means nothing. well, isn't supposed negative supposed it. negative positioning is she just saying my i like my position that i don't like people calling rational people calling out rational thoughts but then it stops thoughts but but then it stops you say, well, you if you then say, well, i don't particularly want to live next door to a margaret hotel. by her definition of it, you

would a frothing and a far would be a frothing and a far right xenophobe and all of right and a xenophobe and all of this. is wrong. this. and that is wrong. absolutely. and she does wax right. she doesn't like brexiteers me, like, you brexiteers like me, like, you know, many viewers will know, many of our viewers will be well the 17.4 million be as well the 17.4 million people leave are people that voted leave are ignorant who knew and ignorant bigots. who knew and actually they wax lyrical about how woke brings in a diverse community and all that. the only diversity that they don't like is the diversity thought and speech isn't that they don't like work. no way. perhaps you know, a weeping , like work. no way. perhaps you know, a weeping, a like work. no way. perhaps you know, a weeping , a little bit know, a weeping, a little bit authoritarian here. you know, it's going on the supreme can come on the it's not authoritarian to try and debate somebody that's the antithesis of authoritarianism people like cathy burke go on tv and have blah about this blah about that and you're not allowed to respond. so if you buy the cathy about cathy, come on and explain why to us would the answer will be no. every single time you do invite the guardian or invite me on the guardian or novara any of these novara media or any of these people, go on and have a chat people, i go on and have a chat with i hold your with them. i wouldn't hold your breath saying

breath and. you're saying i can't. not going beat up on can't. i'm not going beat up on maybe for those who don't know who i saw, she is a libertarian communist, which is an oxymoron . yeah, but there you go. she spend all of your money. i mean, i'll be on that point then about, you know, we, we course need to encourage free speech speech into the world. that's well, i've got to tomorrow is scoffed up next folks i'll be is going to talk about whether genderi going to talk about whether gender i identity theory is progress move start the clock is gender identity theory progressive is it progressive that we've moved from a society where we tell that it was fine to play with toy cars or boys , to play with toy cars or boys, that it was fine to play with barbies to one where if you like activities that don't match your genden activities that don't match your gender, that that you're not normal or that perhaps your gender identity doesn't match your biological sex, or maybe your biological sex, or maybe you don't have a gender at all.

oh is that just playing into gender stereotypes ? despite me gender stereotypes? despite me being broadly socially liberal, i it's wrong that if that we're telling people that if you like girly things you've got a female gender identity and if you like boyish things that you put a boys gender identity. i think this new that we think about gender identity and gender in this country more broadly it's wrong . i think the old ways were wrong. i think the old ways were much where we simply said to people you can be whatever you want to be within the gender that you were assigned to first. so what do you think is gender identity progressive or not? oh, well . job well, title . i mean, well. job well, title. i mean, i. i'll be right. i think this is a pertinent question . i is a pertinent question. i actually worry that young, gay kids are actually growing and thinking. and in some cases in the tavistock whistleblower reports, they actually said some were saying, i'd prefer a trans outcome over a gay outcome. so i think yet the whole i think

actually there's a real homophobic streak to this on its own for pushing gender identity on a case and saying you're not actually gay, you know, maybe you're straight. but, you know, we need to chop your breasts off and all the rest of it. i think it's a really horrible ideology. so i guess, based on what you've just said, you say that gender identity theory, which seen identity theory, which is seen as progressive thing in as the most progressive thing in the at moment, is the world at the moment, is actually progressive or regressive, misogynistic regressive, totally misogynistic dross. no, i'm interested . hear dross. no, i'm interested. hear what you have to say, because i know that you're the only one on the panel that has children. and i'm you would say that i'm sure that you would say that your your son or your daughter's. it was fine them to play daughter's. it was fine them to play with barbies or toys because so why because of their gender. so why is that progressive is it that progressive parents seem this gender seem to think that this gender identity the right way identity theory is the right way to this thing, which to go? i have this thing, which is they are exact thing they is they are the exact thing they accuse of. so i would say accuse you of. so i would say that the trans movement is deeply homophobic and the transition which transition away the gay which is what they're do with what they're trying to do with all this. i mean, we came so all of this. i mean, we came so far as a society to take to the point now in 2023, being gay is

just of you. it's your just a part of you. it's your hardware. it's and we all accept it. i mean, i'm sure some people don't , but the trans thing is a don't, but the trans thing is a software issue. it requires you to actually upgrade body to to actually upgrade your body to deal it . gender ideology deal with it. gender ideology for is satanism. it needs to for me is satanism. it needs to be utterly removed from society permanently, and that includes , permanently, and that includes, really sorry to say, every single transgender person on this planet needs to be told that they're ill , they have a that they're ill, they have a problem, and that problem can be cured. but then some would argue that that was quite extreme point. me, me, emily, you think that perhaps if we can accept that perhaps if we can accept that people are gay , why can't that people are gay, why can't we just accept that trans the same way? well, i had a bit of difficulty on twitter the last couple of days because . i posted couple of days because. i posted that i would like to know i would like the teacher to teacher my child to tell me if my child was saying they were a different gender at school. so if my child sam turned up school and he was being the teachers were calling him samantha instead because he said that's

my preferred gender, that's my preferred name. i would want to know this suddenly . he caused a know this suddenly. he caused a twitter storm. i was accused of all sorts. i was told that i would not be fit to be a mother. i was told that i was transphobic all across english speaking world, people were tweeting me, having a go at me right and centre. and i think thatis right and centre. and i think that is utterly damaging for children. they should not be going to school and being affirmed by their teachers that they are of a different gender. this should be a discussion that happens at home with your parents, the teachers should tell the child's parents if their child is suffering from gender dysphoria , isn't gender dysphoria, isn't comfortable body . comfortable in their own body. we a fact that many we know for a fact that many children are suffering with other mental problems. other mental health problems. they be autistic, etc, etc. and teachers sometimes pms. and teachers will sometimes pms. and i'm not saying all teachers, but teachers may well affirm a child's just because it's easier or because they believe in the ideology. but but patrick, what aboutin ideology. but but patrick, what about in cases where there are children who are genuinely transgender and the parents are

or or perhaps young adults who are genuinely genuinely transgender ? the parents are transgender? the parents are transphobic . and so the teacher, transphobic. and so the teacher, perhaps of a sixth form student, is 18 years old, doesn't want to tell the parents that they that their child is sam instead of samantha. and that case. is that not reasonable? first of all, what i think is happening here is. again, a little bit is. yes, again, a little bit like with the black lives matter stuff, that really stuff, something that really started in america started kicking off in america that more an america that is more of an america specific it is over specific than it is over here. i think there will be more people out america say , no, out in america who will say, no, sort mine is going to be sort of mine is going to be trans or gay, etc, more so than you get over here. so i you will get over here. so i think we are over issue that think we are over any issue that would with parents. and i would be with parents. and i think what doing now is, think what we're doing now is, having people having unqualified people planting ideas in children's heads , then doctors who i think heads, then doctors who i think are on a trip are either on a trip or potentially mentally ill themselves put changing themselves put in life changing things kids a very young age things in kids a very young age and ruining nuclear family by not allowing parents to do the bafic not allowing parents to do the basic function of parenting, which is talk like mad. mad come in there. because i'm

particularly about girls. i am a woman and i was of school age. there were sorts of fads. there were so much contagion. take anorexia, class size zero one, someone starts limiting their food and over exercising some other girls who are already feeling a bit anxious or a bit depressed jump on the bandwagon in and start to eat as little as possible and they get very indeed.i possible and they get very indeed. i do worry that the same is happening in our schools with the transgender too stuff because girls , you know, often because girls, you know, often don't feel comfortable in their bodies at that age. they wonder what else can i ask? why is the assumption parents won't be able what else can i ask? why is the as dealtion parents won't be able what else can i ask? why is the as deal withparents won't be able what else can i ask? why is the as deal with that its won't be able what else can i ask? why is the as deal with that in won't be able what else can i ask? why is the as deal with that in their: be able what else can i ask? why is the as deal with that in their own able to deal with that in their own home, be loving speech as home, or be loving and speech as when? i want to have a look at how some of these teachers are raising their because raising their kids because i parents teachers don't parents who are teachers don't say anything bad about them. say anything too bad about them. but fact but other than that any fact i would i mean the stats will would be i mean the stats will show that quarter a quarter that's 25% of young adults are they them pronouns . i that's 25% of young adults are they them pronouns. i mean just this to note suggests this contagion is far beyond america

and actually it's seeping . i and actually it's seeping. i mean, the kids of these days in our schools are basically force fed like a geese receiving buttoned up . people mouthing buttoned up. people mouthing group . they say, 60 million group. they say, 60 million people through a completely useless vaccine in their arm. but it all well . well, it's but it all well. well, it's a different topic. i think it is also a good thing now that , also a good thing now that, children. oh, well, let me tell time for on that one. coming up after the break, it's the cover palaver always telling you why. just a boil is doomsday cult, which has got it all wrong. and we'll see if the others on the agree. don't go away. but

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clock. yes well just stop. oil is a doomsday cult. it's damaging the mental health of both its activists. and i'd argue the rest of the and also crucially , they don't have crucially, they don't have anybody any credible answers for what's going on when it comes to the environment . i am genuinely the environment. i am genuinely worried for these people's state of mind . one young activist, of mind. one young activist, just oil, took part patrick's. patrick's last week. and what did he . he patrick's last week. and what did he. he said patrick's last week. and what did he . he said that he's not did he. he said that he's not going to have any children because he can't guarantee he can't guarantee that the planet will still be habitable by the time they grow up. so there you go . what a miserable way to go. what a miserable way to live. he won't procreate because the state of the planet . now the state of the planet. now these people don't care if they're in prison. they don't care if they have a criminal record. if they can't a job, they don't care because think they don't care because think the world is about to implode and they have total conviction that they're right. no space for anyone. that they're right. no space for anyone . space discussion. anyone. no space for discussion. these people are a doomsday cult

and they are damaging all mental. so that you go. i had a lot more to say but that 60 seconds. what do you reckon patrick? you had just oil on your show. they really are. there is no space for discussion , is there? i actually feel incredibly sorry for. a lot of these admire the these people i admire the tenacity which they box tenacity with which they box i cause and i admire the fact. and one thing i will say about just oil is they are one of the few people who vehemently disagree with a of the messages that people who vehemently disagree viputa of the messages that people who vehemently disagree leul across, the messages that people who vehemently disagree leul across, but messages that people who vehemently disagree leul across, but will;sages that people who vehemently disagree leul across, but will always:hat i put across, but will always turn come on. and even if turn up and come on. and even if think talking absolute think they're talking absolute tosh that absolutely fair enough because of political because a lot of political for example and i do example won't come on and i do worry their mental so worry for their mental health so idea think that it idea that they think that it doesn't getting criminal doesn't getting a criminal record doesn't matter if they record it doesn't matter if they just flounce their way through university just flounce their way through urtheyity just flounce their way through urthey get a job, it doesn't if they get a job, it doesn't matter if they have kids because the world's going to end. that, my is mental. list. my friends, is mental. my list. but play devil's but do you to play devil's advocate 100 years time it could be possible that people will look in the same way look at just oil in the same way as we look back at amylin who at

the time course people may have been saying similar things, that she was crazy for wanting women to have the virgins equal rights in the way that, you know , they in the way that, you know, they threw front of threw themselves in front of horses. disorderly against horses. was disorderly against the law. do you think that's. do you think that's a possibility? i think that's a nice argument, but i think it's false because they think , oh, we don't know they think, oh, we don't know which time was the answer when you hit the facts, they don't know what. so you hit them with the facts. one of them, the 75, is mystic meg , for example , is mystic meg, for example, phoebe plummer, who she's the pink head missed, who was on jacob rees—mogg show, actually and who i spoke to on another a lesser channel anyway , she says lesser channel anyway, she says that a million people will die if we stop oil and gas exploration . and now? then she exploration. and now? then she goes on to say, i'm not a i'm not scientist. so it's all on fear. it's all based on doomsday predictions. it's fear. it's all based on doomsday predictions . it's not fear. it's all based on doomsday predictions. it's not based on fact because actually climate

related deaths are plummeting . related deaths are plummeting. well, there was one inland dead since 2001, recorded a secondary cause of death. go on. what was. it was someone died from london. so take it seriously . and also so take it seriously. and also every death is tragic. if we can save just one life and the point is, it's replacement for god, isn't it? climate is just. it's just a replacement. the god. and the only way you can deal with them is just laugh at them. well, you know, emily, i was really struck by the sheer number of these young people that out and saying, oh, that coming out and saying, oh, my you know, we need to my word, you know, we need to just oil roll back tide just stop oil and roll back tide of progress and just say to hell with it all and overthrow the system. they're the same people, by the way, that complain about the fact that they get a the fact that they can't get a house yet . net zero still house yet. net zero still prohibits housebuilding because of the net zero targets by law. so i see. i want to actually increase the voting age to 50 so my dear viewers who are over the age of 50 can vote to keep the

nafion age of 50 can vote to keep the nation sound and actually adding a property qualification as well, because these people will never able to buy houses, so never be able to buy houses, so they vote. well, one of they never vote. well, one of they never vote. well, one of the arguments doing the big arguments against doing absolutely that absolutely everything that they want, because whilst are decarbonising pretty want, because whilst are decarlany;ing pretty want, because whilst are decarlany;ing g20 pretty want, because whilst are decarlany;ing g20 nation'etty want, because whilst are decarlany;ing g20 nation etc. much any other g20 nation etc. and we're putting all these green in it will never be green levies in it will never be enough for them. and one of the key arguments against doing everything that they want is that it will be too quick, and it would us all too much it would cost us all too much money and it would bankrupt the nafion money and it would bankrupt the nation individuals, nation and individuals, especially the working class. but don't care but the reason they don't care about is because to them, about that is because to them, they think that they genuinely think that matters because it will be. would the nation? would it bankrupt the nation? i mean, cut our carbon mean, we've cut our carbon emissions, i think, since 1990 by something like 40. of course, the economy has grown a lot since then. so would we really bankrupt the nation by going to net zero that's a huge economic option. there wasn't enough for them all they want more and they want and they more and want more and they want more and they want a lot of, i'd say net zero. you can take that point but the problem is that we've lots of technological we're lots of the technological we're doing but now it's coming doing it now but now it's coming to different types of now it's

about now it's about about banning now it's about authoritarian measures like, you know, potentially forcing people to give up their gas boilers and potentially people to give up their fires , giving up their their fires, giving up their cars, giving up their access to flights, even could be. but on the point about violence, hasn't it, do you think it was wrong then for in the 20th century for then for in the 20th century for the government to ban burning coalin the government to ban burning coal in your to keep warm ? was coal in your to keep warm? was that wrong? well, i mean a lot of people still but i mean my granddad was burning coal in london to see progress and its catalytic converters all of that air was covered in smog the guy invented the calculator converted to rely on technology to save, in some cases, batteries to technology, say the technology is not currently there right . we're living on a there right. we're living on a hope and a prayer here. can i also identify something that i think is deeply that people don't talk about is that the people who are right at the top of this big climate agenda are often faceless forward often faceless show forward children bidding children to do their bidding for

them. when greta thunberg them. so when greta thunberg first broke onto the scene, look, know, first broke onto the scene, lcvery know, first broke onto the scene, lcvery bright know, first broke onto the scene, lcvery bright girl, know, first broke onto the scene, lcvery bright girl, but know, first broke onto the scene, lcvery bright girl, but she'snow, a very bright girl, but she's got asperger's and she was a child looks very for child and looks very young for rage as well. and so it was seen as this horrible thing if you criticised things that she criticised the things that she was saying. so her a lot was saying. so it gave her a lot of freedom to actually go out and spout pretty radical and spout some pretty radical stuff now stuff and then now we've got a lot of that just appalling a lot a lot of the extinction rebellion lot are young rebellion lot are very young people care people say, well, don't you care our future. and then it our future. well and then it makes look as though hate makes it look as though you hate it. then start it. if you then start criticising, they're saying and it a tactical tactic, are it is a tactical tactic, are your children into, you know, the i have to the climate and i have to optimism have optimism i have to un indoctrinate my from many indoctrinate my kids from many including ideology and including gender, ideology and climate on daily but climate on a daily basis. but know planet know everyone wants the planet to cleaner, better place. to be cleaner, a better place. in example, like catalytic in my example, like catalytic converters you l.a converters where, you know, l.a was literally smokes. say we've got it like 15 minute cities, right ? if want a 50 minute right? if you want a 50 minute city, then build the bakery build bus stop. build the build the bus stop. build the build the bus stop. build the build people going to build where people are going to stop. the cameras stop. don't build the cameras first that's what this stop. don't build the cameras firsthis that's what this stop. don't build the cameras firsthis is that's what this stop. don't build the cameras firsthis is building. what this stop. don't build the cameras firsthis is building the at this is. this is building the infrastructure to control you before build the

before they build the infrastructure can thrive infrastructure that can thrive with that's greater good with it. that's a greater good on was brilliant . we on point. that was brilliant. we have it's all about going into politics, sex . sex but i do politics, sex. sex but i do worry bringing it back to the mental health because i think we're all in support of less pollution. who wants to have a polluted dirty planet? none of us do. oh oh, there you go. that's last novel. still ahead , that's last novel. still ahead, patrick christys is going to kick off. you'll be asking why people still live in britain when the clearly cannot stand the place. you won't want to miss that .

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forget. we want to hear from you throughout the show. gbviews@gb news.uk throughout the show. gbviews@gbnews.uk up next, though, it's the one and only patrick christie's. he's wondering why people hate this country but still choose to live here. start the clock. yes, people to hate our bumper people chose to hate our bumper post—brexit trans—pacific trade deal. post—brexit trans—pacific trade deal . not because it's a bad deal. not because it's a bad deal deal. not because it's a bad deal, but because they hate. but they don't just hate that, do they? why are they so miserable? i think we've got a rubbish human rights record, but we beat the. the the. so that's it. the convention on rights stuck convention on human rights stuck to than 95% of other to the more than 95% of other countries. you know what? countries. and, you know what? we're any time soon. we're not leaving any time soon. they say all racist. we've got we're not leaving any time soon. th

front of a formula one car, lock up also, i think that up and. also, i think that britain is so bad. then why is everyone come and everyone trying to come and live? you like it, you live? if you don't like it, you sort of place oh, well, yes. there we no, i just there we go. no, i just seriously it's not seriously think it's not certainly country certainly fantastic country we've given world football, cricket, music cricket, greggs some good music as know what? it's as well. you know what? it's better than any other country in the for me. woof. well the for world me. woof. well they the blood . you got they got the blood. you got within time. that was quite, quite marvellous. i was. well just to play devil's advocate seems to be the position that i'm playing this thing in a free in a free country where there is freedom of speech isn't every citizen's right to criticise as a country. but if you're permanently miserable, why don't you just leave . well, i'm just you just leave. well, i'm just trying to change the country . trying to change the country. patrick, why are you so bigoted ? i'm not bigoted at all. i just think if you're that miserable and you cannot ever if you're presented with you presented with that, you could very easily , positively and you very easily, positively and you actively to continually define the negative on it. i think you

were really mitchell person and why don't you put your money where is? then put it where your mouth is? then put it on a map to me where you would rather live and you think you've got better chance of cracking. got a better chance of cracking. no they feel no wonder they don't feel welcome in patrick. want something nice? all if something nice? all right. if i'm i've i'm going to throw out now, i've gone. yeah, you know what, gone. yeah, but you know what, though? always hashtag be though? it's always hashtag be kind well, be kind people and like, well, be kind people and like, well, be kind own nation. kind about your own nation. write your own nation. people go out, people are out, work hard. people are trying do their bit to trying to do their bit to actually boost still actually boost gdp. we're still despite all the crap that the despite all of the crap that the conservative has conservative government has actually thrown upon us, boosting tax, you've boosting corporation tax, you've got astrazeneca saying, no , got astrazeneca saying, no, mate, i'm off to ireland. even then right when? good things happen, like the trade deal we've just signed cptpp . why can we've just signed cptpp. why can people not acknowledge britain's doing all right? there is a certain type of brit who's miserable . there is a certain miserable. there is a certain type of brit. james o'brien . type of brit. james o'brien. well, he may be a radio presenter . well, he may be a radio presenter. he's very much of the type who just take glee in anything that goes wrong . i

anything that goes wrong. i mean, take this particular trade deal that we've signed up. fantastic potentially billion lines of trade coming to our country with areas of the world that are booming . it matter that are booming. it matter whether voted brexit or you voted remain. you should see this as a positive. why not? but instead, what do they do? they pick it apart. they say, oh, well , you know, we've cut off well, you know, we've cut off the eu and why should we celebrate this? but x y and z reasons when actually, you know what, let's have a bit of pride and actually be like, this is where your actions get involved, because what you have this is drive a good thing. but drive is a good thing. but darren, actually just the darren, you actually just the government , this country, you government, this country, you just said that party were hiking up corporation tax. why is it okay for you to criticise the government in this country . okay for you to criticise the government in this country. i'm not other people well look because i'm saying actually what the government done certain the government done in certain areas fantasy thing for areas is a fantasy thing for britain. brexit was booming, but the other things they're doing are not so ideal for any country

because i want the country to do well. right. i'm actually actively encouraging measures that know work and are going to boost gdp. make us feel a bit wealthier. we could all do with that. i'm pretty certain that patrick would probably want us all to be swearing allegiance to the flag every day. oh i wouldn't go that wouldn't necessarily go that far, but i would . i wouldn't be. far, but i would. i wouldn't be. but i would. i wouldn't against it cos i think he's actually state of play that we have at the minute. we've got kids setting fire the union flag setting fire to the union flag outside school. i know. outside of school. i know. yeah they done. and they have done. yeah. and i think that's absolutely shocking. what's wrong with having and having national unity and national all national pride and i'm all criticism i'm all criticism obviously i'm all looking from other looking at things from the other perspective all over, pointing out things be out ways in which things be better. but it's gone to extreme. we've gone far from being these positive being all of these positive things of brussels. doctor being all of these positive things just)f brussels. doctor being all of these positive things just this ussels. doctor being all of these positive things just this horribleioctor we are just this horrible cesspit where everything is absolutely shocking. i'm sorry, but if is that bad, then you but if it is that bad, then you should leave . why do i hate the should leave. why do i hate the country? so what are allowing country? so what are we allowing to dislike the country? because we don't like it ourselves and

we don't like it ourselves and we sort of jingoistic, we go generation go with it anywhere on the wall to smoke up. we have no actual identity about who we are and therefore it's free game for these wokeist northern laziness. it's laziness it's like people who work in companies and whinge about the boss and always whinge about everyone and whinge about poor sandra from as opposed to actually into work actually getting into work minutes. current count from minutes. our current count from accounts. yeah i've it we started on average about but seriously though instead of actually getting into work 10 minutes it's turning minutes earlier it's turning up to meetings time pulling to the meetings time pulling your maybe bit your finger out and maybe a bit harder. always easy to harder. it's always easy to criticise and it's to do something, it's because we something, but it's because we constantly institutions constantly down our institutions , all our history, everything people used to think made britain great. now we have this kind of wishy washy view of what it means to be british, which seems be based on being kind or being tolerant. any nation in the world would want those values . it's difference. values. it's a big difference. having them being tolerant, being kind is being rude and cancelling destroying cancelling people and destroying

their lives. being tolerant their lives. and being tolerant is this is. about. next is what this is. all about. next time. well i mean, people time. well i mean, these people are intolerant than are more intolerant than goodness only knows what right . goodness only knows what right. i know, my granddad's i you know, my granddad's generation, he fought in korea example fighting against communist, you know. yeah. to fight for what the values of the flag to represent which is freedom. liberty safety from the rule of law and all the rest of it. really interesting you mention grandpa, because my grandparents obviously from an ethnic background came ethnic minority background came here windrush generation here in the windrush generation and absolutely and my grandfather absolutely loves this country and a lot of people in my generation don't share that same love that our grandparents who moved here had for why that ? why is for this. why is that? why is there assumption, is there that assumption, which is really interesting because you think, windrush think, you know, the windrush generation, no generation, but i'm no historian, but this idea, was historian, but this idea, it was some crying to people from some great crying to people from jamaica . but obviously, as you jamaica. but obviously, as you said, you're in grandfather thinks it's a great country. so why do we have this view in this country that everything we've ever done is we never go? actually you know, some things we did. well, i didn't slavery,

all of this sort of stuff. it's like, why do we hate ourselves so much? that's what i find so difficult. i actually just don't think history is taught particularly well in this country history, the country about the history, the united many united kingdom. i mean, how many people industrial people that the industrial revolution , for example, start revolution, for example, start in how do people in this country? how do people know ended slavery? but know that we ended slavery? but equally, people know equally, how many people know about atrocities about some of the atrocities that in people that went on in we all people going have to do that one again because that's a really, really good still ahead, good topic. that's still ahead, folks be hearing from this week's special guest, laurence fox . hopefully there are no fox. hopefully there are no ofcom complaints . no, i'm ofcom complaints. no, i'm joking. he yes, he is furious about the antics of his fellow guy. yes now, this could get lively. i'll see you in a bit.

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saying about the saturday night live tonight. michael jones, you've said this saturday five experiment is an absolute winner . ooh, that is mick in birmingham . you very much birmingham. you very much indeed.i birmingham. you very much indeed. i think so. i'm having a whale of a time. susan says gb news great shows. keep it up. the work, the white brigade hater. no, thank you for that . hater. no, thank you for that. george says loser and patrick i suspect mischief . three of the suspect mischief. three of the three for the mischief. definitely leah says great show but you've a trick. the sassy five should be on every night at 5:00. come on gb news. your five is in the post. we keeping us in business? yeah. excellent. and kathy ? i guess i'll read one kathy? i guess i'll read one out. absolutely. agree with everything patrick said. well done , patrick. well, there you done, patrick. well, there you go.thank done, patrick. well, there you go. thank you very much. now up next, folks , going to be next, folks, going to be laurence fox and he's going to tell what he makes of hollywood guy pierce's apology this week. start the clock . i i'm guy pierce's apology this week. start the clock. i i'm going to

begin my disappointment with guy pierce's hasty retreat from his tweet asking whether transgender people should only able to play transgender roles, which is a perfectly legitimate question by adopting the shakespeare hamlet actress to in which is what hamlet instructs actor told a mirror up to nature show how that show that you have in school in her image and. so the point about it as stupid as it may seem it pretending to be somebody else that's the entire idea and this whole sort woke transgender is mad ness is that you know trans people can come play you know trans people can come play trans people which fine they should be able to that but at the same time as guy pearce did was his he described the logic that if trans people it turns out just can only play trans people then should transacted only take trans people very legitimate logical question in the enlightenment. but then guy got a few words. oh

he got a call from his agent and then he comes up with things. the time you explain yourself, i don't know what's going on lawrence. i mean guy pearce, right. he was a priscilla queen of the desert, which was a film all about drag queens. and you getting dressed up and having fun and not actually a gay man. they're that this is a cardinal sin and actually we should go back in time and style guy pearce not to take the role bigots or whatever else. oh is all mad isn't it. it's ruining a rich ancient tradition which . rich ancient tradition which. was acting. acting. do you went actually a copper in see you are not a copper but you know i sometimes genuinely especially having had narinder in her racist rant the other day, i sometimes genuinely sit there and go, i was cancelled from show business for pointing out thatis show business for pointing out that is not a racist country. and i have this sort of and then i have this sort of mournful go back to acting mournful tug go back to acting and think, god, that's the and i think, god, that's the best you've got. and i look at jumping netflix. trying jumping open netflix. i'm trying to something to say, and to find something to say, and i'm like, there's

i'm just like, there's nothing want involved in. your want to be involved in. your apologies. you're meant to stand up meant up against culture. you're meant to up to nature. to hold the mirror up to nature. that's job as actor , and that's yourjob as an actor, and it's embarrassing. i'm it's just embarrassing. i'm embarrassed business. embarrassed by show business. now, i wonder, is there any sense you answer sense, lawrence, you can answer this probably there any sense that perhaps the pendulum is starting to the other way. all their actors and actresses coming out and saying, you know what, actually this is a pile of rubbish be able to rubbish people should be able to play rubbish people should be able to play . well, they do. play a part. well, they do. i mean, look, i get i got a lot of friends. friends said basically, you know what mean? and they you know what i mean? and they journalists do the same thing every time , go, what you every time, go, what do you think? laurence fox went think? and laurence fox went interview you know, interview them. and, you know, however is and what do is however it is and what do is they do this very strange reverse go reverse fair it is they go cancel culture is dreadful country culture dreadful. naga what think of laurence what do you think of laurence fox? recognise all fox? yes i recognise that all he's despicable he's a disgusting, despicable human and like grow a pair human being and like grow a pair of cotton you but it's national so about i actually thought you got cancelled from acting world for your grasp of oh but got get

one thing that is talking about is the ingratitude ingratitude from lot of these people and nothing summarises this more than the harry potter cast. daniel radcliffe will be stocking shelves and it will be waitrose, not lidl because he's a posh. so if it was if it wasn't for j.k. rowling a posh. so if it was if it wasn't forj.k. rowling got rupert grint i mean he got to save his life. he's better than daniel but doesn't. le parisien says. daniel but doesn't. le parisien says . and none these will says. and none of these will have a career if it wasn't for. and they turn their back on j.k. rowling . second, it gets a bit rowling. second, it gets a bit controversial. i mean laurence, though, you you think though, do you do you think there's be said for there's anything to be said for there's anything to be said for the of mary whitehouse the fact that of mary whitehouse going telly channels going through the telly channels and saying oh well, there's too many gays on whatever many gays on box or whatever else . actually, it's the case of else. actually, it's the case of now the gays seeking out non gays act and ask them to say, well doing way too many gays overall. well look at you law, dozens of gays. we need to stick together by filling in full on tonight. yeah this is the sexual lobby . look, the thing tonight. yeah this is the sexual lobby. look, the thing is , no lobby. look, the thing is, no one cares about the woman i

don't care about. i didn't see in the same way as i just i'm not interested in sex and then profession becoming because it's the home of narcissistic nihilists which is what the right movement is. it's just narcissism, steroids. and that's that's what it is. well, let's bnng that's what it is. well, let's bring albie in on this, because you do see a lot of movies and theatre productions where traditionally . white privileged traditionally. white privileged would be playing . hey yes you would be playing. hey yes you know minority i think this is not really the point that people are trying to address a historic injustice by trying to correct things nowadays. i partly they might have gone too far , but i might have gone too far, but i don't i don't necessarily the goalis don't i don't necessarily the goal is wrong. yes of course, we should have an artistic sphere, which is representative of all the people in the country. just don't know that the right way of going about it is by saying to people that you can only play certain types. what are the chances of ryan gosling playing barack opposed to barack obama as opposed to a

black ? anne boleyn, the black actress? anne boleyn, the is quite zero, but that is probably quite zero, but that doesn't mean lord the black doesn't mean lord the black doesn't mean lord the black doesn't mean the end of racism against the bible. and we all get that. and we just go we go along with it doesn't mean that in the past there weren't where there were white actors who were playing ethnic minority roles. justin trudeau that's why i yes. justin trudeau that's why i yes. justin trudeau that's why i yes. justin trudeau and that's why i say there are some people are seeking to try and balance this historical injustice and they're not thinking about it wrong. oh, i and want on the i need to and i want to on the evidence stuff it's like oh evidence this stuff it's like oh you just to turn the tv you just want to turn the tv screen not notice what screen and not notice what colour someone's skin is or whether they're gay that's all i want. want go to theatre want. i want to go to theatre and i don't it's i do and go. i don't it's i do colour—blind casting to exist all business always did all across business always did and only now do you notice if you go back and watch backdraft in 1996 brilliant film about fire last time didn't use cgi so it actual real fire you look at the demographics of this movie there's a of representation there's a lot of representation of different when there is colour—blind casting and you

have a black person that's cast in a white role. lots of people get up in arms because anne boleyn was once said like i wish we could back to a situation we could get back to a situation where was colour—blind where it was colour—blind casting cares. but casting and no one cares. but actually care. but do actually people do care. but do you this race is something you think this race is something to that to be said, though, that kate's watching historical what is watching a historical what is perceived to be a historical where, actually unbelieving. this is portrayed as a black woman when she wasn't a black woman. but it's fiction is all you know. so getting beyond and he plays the role of winnie mandela look in in an well she didn't and i just found it pretty irritating when people got really angry at bridgerton like it's complete works of fiction yeah but that's fine i know how i agree with what you're saying. they're actually kind of sad and i, you know, if people have this is a difference. there is a key distinction between just works of fiction where let's say there probably wouldn't been probably wouldn't have been that many upper black many upper class black people living england in the living rural england in the 1800s or something like that. and if it's a complete work and so if it's a complete work of fiction and you're doing

that, obviously can that, obviously, i can see, though, people a bit though, why people would a bit irate it is a genuine irate when it is a genuine representation of something and they crowbar in different ethnicities in that . not because ethnicities in that. not because people don't like those ethnicities just because factually and factually inaccurate. and i think a point think people might a valid point that yeah well i think i think they definitely do does sometimes seem a bit incongruous it does seem to be a difference between theatre productions where anything goes shakespeare and then actually as you say, documentary style, historic hall style movies, which is makes sense to me just because you drama that's all i want to know is i want to go is the product that i'm paying for and i'm watching better it was ten years ago why is it twitter's delight i've had to cut off laurence fox . oh, now, folks, i'm sure you'll agree with me that it's been an absolutely fantastic if i do say so myself . thank you i do say so myself. thank you very much to my panel. now, folks, next up, it's going to be the brilliant marc dolan. he's the brilliant marc dolan. he's the king of night weekend telly.

but thank you from the bottom of my heart for watching. we'll see you again next week on the saturday five for another crack so i'll see you then . hello so i'll see you then. hello jonathan bawtry here you your latest weather updates from the met office after a relatively cloudy start to april there changes on the way as we head into the second half of the weekend high pressure is building in from the west helping to settle things down and bring in some fair weather and bring in some fair weather and push this low pressure centre out of the way for stuff evening though we still do have some occluded fronts in present and that will bring outbreaks of rain to western scotland, parts of northern ireland and also push way southeastern push its way into southeastern areas well. as we areas, england as well. as we move into the second half of the night , start feeding night though, we start feeding in drier air. the in some drier air. the scandinavian region . that's just scandinavian region. that's just going to help clear some of that out the way for parts of northumberland, yorkshire. but temperatures drop temperatures are also to drop off more. but off here a bit more. but generally already up around four

or celsius. but air or five degrees celsius. but air going to continue to push its way in from the east as we move throughout sunday, helping to break across break up that cloud across seven areas scotland, central, areas of scotland, central, eastern sunday eastern england and sunday is looking brighter and looking like a much brighter and sunny here further sunny day here further west. that is just lingering that front is just lingering with a bit of cloud patchy rain possible across scotland, ireland wales. but ireland and wales. but temperatures out in the west around 13, 14 degrees celsius. it will feel chilly though, in the breeze across parts suffolk, kent and essex , but that will kent and essex, but that will tend to ease its way out as we move throughout the sunday evening . during the night, we'll evening. during the night, we'll hold onto number of clear hold onto a good number of clear intervals will allow intervals and that will allow temperatures to drop away quite widely so could be widely so there could be a widespread particularly widespread frost, particularly across and across parts of england and wales. a chilly start to wales. we have a chilly start to the but a sunny one the new week, but a sunny one once again thanks to high pressure place and good number pressure place and a good number of intervals . the sunshine of sunny intervals. the sunshine will hazier for northern as will turn hazier for northern as the begins to strengthen the breeze begins to strengthen as well. and it's all due to these fronts that are wanting to push in again from the push their way in again from the west. is still trying west. but high is still trying to charge, certainly

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