is hello and welcome this is calvin's common sense crusade . calvin's common sense crusade. with me, the reverend calvin robinson on your tv, online and on your wireless. today, we are discussing the decision by a group , london clerics, to group, london clerics, to establish an alternative deanery chapter. and i'm joined by former trump adviser sebastian engel first to chat about his indictment this week. plus, in the jewel , we'll be asking the jewel, we'll be asking whether we should change our laws on assisted dying . but laws on assisted dying. but before all of that, is the news with our own armstrong . good with our own armstrong. good evening to you. yes, aaron armstrong here in the gb news from passengers at doe for trying to get away for the easter holidays have described being shell shocked by the delays with some groups waiting more than 16 hours. several coach loads of adults and children have been there since last night. port, which has last night. the port, which has declared a critical incident , declared a critical incident, says it's deeply frustrated by the delays. it's put them down to lengthy french border

processes and also sheer volume . cars have been caught up in the gridlock , but the delays for the gridlock, but the delays for cars are less severe. the labour leader, sir keir starmer says families trying to get have experienced before. think the nature of the frustration will be not again . this is not the be not again. this is not the first time. the problem is at dover and the government needs to get a grip of this and plan ahead. we can't have every summer holiday, every easter holiday, the same old problem. and so the government needs to get of this, actually get a grip of this, actually help who are just help people out who are just trying get away few trying to get away for a few days, holiday. meanwhile, the government in the government says the rise in the national minimum proves they are doing everything they can to help with the rising cost of living. of lowest living. millions of the lowest workers a boost of 9.7% workers will get a boost of 9.7% from today . that's in their from today. that's in their hourly wage . so it will go from hourly wage. so it will go from £9, 50 to £10, 42. however, the shop workers recommended a minimum of £12 per hour and says the government has not gone far enough to help people with the

biggest costs of living in 50 years. government plans that could see polluting water companies facing an limited fines have been dismissed by opposition parties. there were on average more than 800 sewage spills per day into england's waterways in the last year. that's according to official figures. ministers want to lift current penalty cap of a quarter of £1,000,000. labour though, have described it as a flimsy regurgitation of old ideas . a regurgitation of old ideas. a symbolic blow and a slap in the face to the international community. that's ukraine's response to russia taking the presidency of the un security council. that is an international body responsible for maintaining peace . each of for maintaining peace. each of the council's 15 members takes the council's 15 members takes the role for a month on a rotating basis. russia last held the presidency in february last year when it launched an invasion of ukraine. russian president vladimir putin is currently facing an international arrest warrant for alleged war crimes. ukraine had urged members of the council to

block the move . at least 11 block the move. at least 11 people have been killed after tornadoes swept through the south and midwest of the united states . a state of emergency has states. a state of emergency has been declared in arkansas and missouri, where homes have been damaged and. vehicles flipped over a officials say. more than 40 tornado reports were made across seven states on friday with illinois, indiana, alabama and mississippi. also impacted . and mississippi. also impacted. what we'll bring you more as it happens, but now it's over to calvin . calvin. there used to be a time when terrorists would be proscribed and condemned. but in the politically correct 21st century west, it seems we are always on

the back foot . it used to be the back foot. it used to be said, never negotiate with terrorists. these days it feels like we give in before demands are even made. take a look at what happened with kelly jack in on a recent trip to new zealand, the lgbtq community protested before she even arrived , before she even arrived, claiming they would be unsafe if was allowed to speak. trans activists said they feared for their safety because kellyj activists said they feared for their safety because kelly] is such a danger to their existence . kelly j. being the brave women's rights protester that she is went anyway. what happened? she was attacked. not only was she abused verbally, but liquids were thrown at her too. she was almost trample by an aggressive mob. genuinely feared for her life . were trans feared for her life. were trans activists in danger from one list? a woman travelling to see her piece? or were they playing the victim? gaslighting us all, being cri bullies in order to shut down opposing viewpoints whilst hoping to cause her harm . i would argue it's a total italian tactic often used by people who call themselves

anti—fascists. they've learned from the fascists they purport to detest by using their methodology used against the rest of us. and then there was the absolutely awful shooting in nashville . a trans activist shot nashville. a trans activist shot and killed children and staff at and killed children and staff at a christian school . i won't and killed children and staff at a christian school. i won't name her because she does not deserve fame, but her actions were evil and immediately followed calls for a trans day of vengeance . for a trans day of vengeance. trans activists use hyperpop language like trans genocide as if denying their identity is the same as killing them in the liberal progressive west. most people would be happy for anyone to live their lives however they see fit . as long as they're not see fit. as long as they're not harming anyone . the problem see fit. as long as they're not harm activists1e . the problem see fit. as long as they're not harm activists facethe problem see fit. as long as they're not harm activists face is; problem see fit. as long as they're not harm activists face is when.em trans activists face is when they try to impose their ideology onto everyone else . i ideology onto everyone else. i would say denying delusion and refuse to affirm fantasy is not the same genocide. and to claim otherwise is quite disgusting. it outrageously dilutes genocides that are happening around the world. christians in

nigeria , we are muslims in china nigeria, we are muslims in china . it could be said the nashville shooting was a hate crime . there shooting was a hate crime. there are many who will see it as an act of terrorism committed by trans activists as a result of calls to incite violence by the lgbtq+ community and. and what's so terrible about this situation is that instead of calling out such horrible behaviour, vocal voices within that community are calling for yet more violence . calling for yet more violence. they're glorifying it with comments such as i hope it was that lost their lives. one good thing about gun violence is the occasionally wipes out for republican families in one fell swoop and memes of women with guns saying us when we see transphobes . the message clear. transphobes. the message clear. subscribe to their ideology or your fair game. submit or be killed. that is terrorism. every person in the west should denounce this evil ideology . denounce this evil ideology. now, i'd like to take a moment. pray for the victims of the

shooting in nashville . eternal shooting in nashville. eternal rest. grant unto them. oh, lord. and let light perpetual shine upon them. may their souls , the upon them. may their souls, the souls of the faithful, departed through the mercy of god. rest in peace . amen . in peace. amen. baroness mitchell made a passionate speech this week to the health and social care committee, in which she argued that future generations would be appalled at how long it is taking us to change the laws on assisted dying . as the law assisted dying. as the law stands assisting in someone's premature death can lead to a 14 year prison sentence , admitting year prison sentence, admitting that this leaves some with a choice. she described as between suicide, suffering or switzerland, where the laws are different. that speech brings us to this week's jewel and to debate the topic, i'm joined by my brilliant jewel ists, my sidekick emma webb and this week's nemesis, founder of novara media, aram bustani .

novara media, aram bustani. emma. is it about time we changed the laws on assisted dying ? no i think that those who dying? no i think that those who argue that this isn't going, you know, they all argue against the slippery slope argument. they are ignoring the fact that in all countries where you've seen all countries where you've seen a of laws around euthanasia like belgium or canada . what you've belgium or canada. what you've seen as a result of that is the vulnerable being treated in the most horrific ways, often being coerced into killing themselves . and also, you have to recognise that euthanasia isn't just people try to frame it in terms autonomy and the right the right die, which i think is symptom of our very pro—death anti life culture . they frame it anti life culture. they frame it in those terms , but the reality in those terms, but the reality is that somebody else is also in this act, and that is the doctor who is being asked to do this. and then a doctor who is being asked essentially murder his asked to essentially murder his patient this just shows the patient. and this just shows the way way which we way the way in which we understand medicine has changed. it's longer about healing it's no longer about healing people and bringing them back to health. it's become about giving

people whatever want. and so you can follow that logic to say that, you know, somebody who goes to doctor and says that goes to a doctor and says that i want to all of my limbs want to have all of my limbs chopped off, should have the doctor comply with that doctor should comply with that person's . i think that person's autonomy. i think that it's wrongheaded. i think it's unethical. and i think it really . they may think that they are, you know, being compassionate and doing good, but really, this is the road hell. are in a is the road to hell. are in a liberal progressive society should . we be giving people should. we be giving people whatever want . well, the whatever they want. well, the first thing i'd say, first thing i in response is we i said in response is we decriminalise suicide in this country 1961. and i don't think it's morally or ethically cohere arendt to say that should be decriminalised , but assisted decriminalised, but assisted suicide should not. and i'll pick up on one point. there is a distinction between euthanasia and assisted suicide . so in and assisted suicide. so in switzerland, euthanasia is illegal . what has been illegal. what has been decriminalised there is assisted suicide. switzerland the suicide. so in switzerland the person kills and they have to be the one that does it. it's not a doctor. that's a big distinction

between them in. canada. that's something i would like to see here. i think that's a perfectly sensible do i think sensible thing. do and i think given we've already decriminalised since given we've already decri|i inalised since given we've already decri|i don'tad since given we've already decri|i don't think since given we've already decri|i don't think it's since given we've already decri|i don't think it's aince 1961, i don't think it's a massive jump to go from that to there. secondly we already have about every ten days a break going over to switzerland to do precisely this so that rights quote unquote we can agree or disagree have the sort of moral implications it does already exist. if you have £10,000 to do it and i think that's a major question . i think people question. i think people opposing this have to answer. and then finally , i would be and then finally, i would be very small c conservative. this i wouldn't apply willy nilly. and i think if you look at certain cases for instance, you can talk canada or california , can talk canada or california, you can have very noble positive objectives, execute it very poorly. i mean, that happens all the time. and i don't think poor execution undermines a good objective. so i would say that's particularly the case regards to assisted suicide . i would apply assisted suicide. i would apply it to a narrow range health

conditions. i think the cognitive conditions, for instance , parkinson's, instance, parkinson's, huntington's , you know, there is huntington's, you know, there is no cure for these things. it's not like doctors say with regards to cancer, for instance, you might three months and the person ends up living multiple years. so i think with a small cluster health conditions, i think assisted like switzerland is very fair, very decent and not a huge jump away from what we already have really in country. a lot to break down there but let's address the issue i raised around the slippery slope around this issue that we can have a piece of legislation that's so tight that we wouldn't ever fall foul. the errors of canada, for example, where homeless people and veterans pushed down this path because it's more convenient for the states. how we avoid that? can we avoid that? i don't think you avoid it. and in canada, you can avoid it. and in canada, they when they passed they actually when they passed this c—7 , that it this bill c—7, bill c—7, that it wasn't going to lead to a slippery slope that those arguments were wrong headed. and then you only have to look at where we've ended up. i mean,

one story that was in the telegraph about who was telegraph about a woman who was forced euthanasia because forced into euthanasia because her housing benefits wouldn't allow her to get housing that didn't her crippling allergies . didn't her crippling allergies. so you know this there is a demonstrable many, many demonstrable many, many demonstrable examples of that slippery slope . but you just slippery slope. but you just have to think about the way in which we talk about harm in our society and how broad and elastic the term harm has become . so, yes, you might talk about people who have like neurodegenerative and so on, and still there are people who, you know, could be coerced into into euthanasia , even if they have euthanasia, even if they have those serious diseases. but let's just think about, you know, in belgium, there was a girl was 23 years old. girl who was only 23 years old. she'd been victim of one of the terror attacks by islamic state . and she had herself euthanized because it was deemed biomedical professional that she had incurable ptsd and depression . incurable ptsd and depression. so you can see how this sort of

, given that we live in this sort of mental health culture, can see how the flexibility of that could lead us down this. i'm going to go back, ayaan, on that because that's a really good point. and where do we draw that red line? because you said if is incurable now, if something is incurable now, we've to open we've always got to be open to the people be the idea that people can be cured through a miracle or through that is found. and if something like depression as something like depression is as incurable, surely that crosses barrier. it's linked to barrier. i think it's linked to that. barrier. i think it's linked to that . i think, barrier. i think it's linked to that. i think, for barrier. i think it's linked to that . i think, for instance that. and i think, for instance , if you look at progress around hiv in the early 1990s, the cure that can that was akin to retroviral it was akin to a miracle. it was extraordinary. and people didn't really foresee miracle. it was extraordinary. andprogressdidn't really foresee miracle. it was extraordinary. andprogress thatt really foresee miracle. it was extraordinary. andprogress that we ally foresee miracle. it was extraordinary. andprogress that we ally f0|in ee miracle. it was extraordinary. andprogress that we ally f0|in no the progress that we made in no small because of activist small part because of activist activists it to the activists pushing it to the forefront of the sort of conversation the united states. so do buy to a certain extent, so i do buy to a certain extent, but as i say, with with the degenerative conditions like parkinson's, degenerative conditions like parki these , up . it is very seen these people up. it is very hard them in their families. hard for them in their families. my hard for them in their families. my mother passed eight years ago. i wasn't present when she passed away, i happened to be in a foreign country. she died . and

a foreign country. she died. and i remember speaking to a family friend said , you friend about and he said, you know what you shouldn't regret? not being there actually not being there because actually she want you to see her suffering like that . she wanted suffering like that. she wanted you to remember her as was as a healthy , vibrant young woman . healthy, vibrant young woman. that was of great consolation to me. but i also thought to myself , there's a real amount of truth to that. and look, you may not wish be subject to denies it to you but we don't live in a theocracy. you might think that means eternal for someone, but their business. and so i would say euthanasia. i agree with regards the slippery slope but i think assisted suicide given the legal frameworks we already have.i legal frameworks we already have. i don't think it's that big a jump at some point. it's semantics because people can be pressure ized into these decisions. but i want to end on whose decision is to end whose decision is it to end a life? whose decision is it to make i don't think that, make a life? i don't think that, you know, that's something that is human hands. simply you know, that's something that is human hands . simply put, i is in human hands. simply put, i think that i don't think that an individual has the right to take their own life. i don't think

that an individual has the right to another life. and to take another life. and i would extend that also to the unborn. okay. so whose decision is it? one's . i mean, i would is it? no one's. i mean, i would elaborate to, say, look, we all made an image of god new orleans before we were born. so we created us. he designed us. therefore, he gave us life. therefore, he gave us life. therefore the one that can take the don't know if the life away. i don't know if you to that well. you subscribe to that as well. i don't know. i think that were don't know. i think that we were made beings in, made as as rational beings in, his image. and we're capable of good and evil. and i think you might that somebody who might believe that somebody who pursues and that's pursues that path is and that's your right in a liberal society , you may be right or wrong, but it's also right to pursue their own path as they see fit. so i don't that's i don't don't think that's i don't think, just think, though, just just very quickly. don't think that the quickly. i don't think that the argument against euthanasia is a purely religious think purely religious one. i think you make the ethical you can make the ethical argument euthanasia on argument against euthanasia on totally secular religious grounds . okay. thank totally secular religious grounds. okay. thank you very much. and you're on this week. six people were killed when a transgender activist attacked a private christian in private christian school in

nashville. took to twitter. nashville. so took to twitter. and i'm asking you , as and i'm asking you, as transgender become more transgender attacks become more common, should hostile hard left political groups be proscribed and condemned in the same way as hostile groups on the far right? is it time to clamp down on anti—western, hard left ideologies? so please vote in that on twitter while you can. plenty more to come this evening on my commonsense crusade. next, we'll be talking the decision by a group of london clerics to establish an alternative ordinary shop to see .

soon well, i'll come back to the common sense crusade with me, the reverend calvin robinson on your tv online , on your your tv online, on your wireless. a group of clerics in the city deanery , the diocese of

the city deanery, the diocese of london, have announced their decision to establish an alternative deanery chapter. the move in protest at the decision to allow church for same sex couples has been described by the diocese as a unilateral move with no legal substance to discuss this. i'm joined by sam mulgrave and luke appleton, church of england general synod members. sam i'll start with you, if you don't mind. you've been a vocal opponent of the cbi's recent change of direction. was something like this bound to happen? do you think . i this bound to happen? do you think. i don't think it's necessary and i don't think it's helpful . i'm necessary and i don't think it's helpful. i'm sure i will disagree on this. but, you know, i've often said that the church to take more enthusiasm than the labour party to . and and the labour party to. and and the opposition at a very simple we need to take back the structures that we already not create new ones take back control . nick, ones take back control. nick, what do you think? do you believe in from within? do you ? believe in from within? do you? that's possible at this point ? that's possible at this point? well, i think some the action

taken by the starting gun, really, obviously, there's a wider move for differentiation . wider move for differentiation. but this is actually about st helen's its associated churches , which model the best way of bringing in young people and church groups saying absolutely no to these proposals. the bishops have driven a bulldozer through church norms with the way they are behaving. and so why shouldn't they do this ? but why shouldn't they do this? but do you believe, luke , we can do you believe, luke, we can reverse the cbi's progressive direction like , well, moves like direction like, well, moves like this can have an impact an absolute belief with enough resistance over enough time. we can do that. yes absolutely. okay so i absolutely agree that we can change the decision. but i think focus needs to be on july . i'm i think focus needs to be on july. i'm winning all these people over who. didn't vote for he voted against because i think there was a real problem in july there was a real problem in july the message that orthodox leaders sent across was really confusing. it was sort of saying

that we can stay in the church of england with a compromise and we need a few tweaks. that we just need a few tweaks. that isn't the case at all. what we need to do take back control need to do is take back control of church of england . would of the church of england. would argue know, i'm argue that, you know, i'm compelled and compelled to resist to and i would argue that if people in london want to do something, i would argue that they need to take the bishop of london to court. and, you know , take court. and, you know, take action for her heresy , which is action for her heresy, which is something they can they'd something they can do if they'd like it. and i'm happy to like to do it. and i'm happy to support want to reach support if they want to reach out me. simon always go out to me. simon you always go home or go home. i want to bring my duellists into this in a minute. but but luke, what about alternative episcopal oversight? is option here? alternative episcopal oversight? is idea option here? alternative episcopal oversight? is idea that option here? alternative episcopal oversight? is idea that i, option here? alternative episcopal oversight? is idea that i, who tion here? alternative episcopal oversight? is idea that i, who are here? the idea that i, who are orthodox could look after these . so i think as a short term measure , that is a necessity. measure, that is a necessity. how can orthodox bible believing christians look to bishops that want to compromise on essential doctrines as a long term solution that needs to be a sea change within the church? and unfortunately, it's only by taking measures like this that

has any chance of having , okay, has any chance of having, okay, i'm going to be my duellists and i'll start with my nemesis, aaron . i'm guessing you aaron. i'm guessing that you believe church of england believe the church of england should go down the route of same sex all this is a nonsense sex and all this is a nonsense for reason. is that? for no reason. who is that? church faith. you know, i. church my faith. you know, i. i'm a to start with, but i don't think it's my or my business to really interfere in other people's of personal. people's matters of personal. i suppose different suppose it's a bit different with church england in so with the church england in so much as state faith and much as the state faith and i think ultimately yes you're going to issues and perhaps going to have issues and perhaps you disagree with that you gentlemen disagree with that you gentlemen disagree with that you going to have you as well you're going to have problems a church problems with to a state church not resent enabling the moors , not resent enabling the moors, the laws and the values of the state itself and also me. that's what the church being that is that gentleman at the start said oh, we had entry ism like jeremy corbyn's labour for me corbyn's labour party. for me that's i don't quite know that's i mean i don't quite know what the context is here, but when you say that i think don't you people joining your you want people joining your church being church and you want people being active communities? active in your communities? that's happened that's precisely what happened on with the on the jeremy corbyn with the labour so i don't know labour party. so i don't know the broader here. i know,

the broader debate here. i know, i most people watching i know like most people watching that problems that there are massive problems in the clp right now and a great deal of disagreement. but as an outsider this seems deal of disagreement. but as an outs an r this seems deal of disagreement. but as an outsan inevitable this seems deal of disagreement. but as an outs an inevitable feature ms deal of disagreement. but as an outs an inevitable feature of like an inevitable feature of being state you will being a state church. you will resemble the moors laws and regulations of that state. i mean, well and good mean, that's all well and good for to there say for you to sit there and say that as a catholic with a magisterium solid magisterium and a solid that isn't changing. emma should the state representing the state church be representing the people it be people or should it be representing unchangeable people or should it be represerhanded unchangeable people or should it be represerhanded down angeable people or should it be represer handed down to jeable people or should it be represer handed down to jea by faith as handed down to us by the apostles. it's difficult because i know that you and i actually disagree on establishment. i think that you're open to idea of you're more open to the idea of disestablished church of disestablished the church of england am. think england than i am. i do think that it puts the church in a kind of bind because on the one hand, you know, it's pulled in the direction of tradition and scripture, know, scripture, you know, and traditional teachings, traditional christian teachings, but other hand, it feels but on the other hand, it feels this need to, as other institutions of state do, to be institutions of state do, to be in some way representative of the people in order to legitimise , i think, the church legitimise, i think, the church of england should probably be understanding its own legitimacy , see differently, not in representative terms, but that does put the church a difficult

spot. and i think does make sense that there would be some the church of england who would feel set up these feel the need to set up these sorts parallel institutions sorts of parallel institutions within england to within the church of england to try push back against these try and push back against these changes probably all changes but it's probably all part of the sort of tussling that may be inevitable . how many that may be inevitable. how many progressive is that now? all within the church of gospel. so i want to go back to some some is it too late if we've got all these liberal bishops and you talked about and they've taken over the sea as an institution regardless of how sound and orthodox the clergy and the laity are. if the bishops are dragging the church into apostasy, is there even a way out of this? should people be looking further to looking further abroad to orthodox anglican like gascon, or should they be leaving and going to rome ? i don't actually going to rome? i don't actually think it's a choice in the sense i think that we need to look to people outside of the church of , england, and try to welcome them in or to seek pastoral care from them. but equally i think

the church of england have the demographics structure. it also and listens to things . bishops and listens to things. bishops respond to newspaper articles and reputation management more than they do the bible i often sometimes think and we need people to be using their voices and i diocesan synod recently and i diocesan synod recently and just nobody spoke about these issues a lot of them have concerns but they stay silent so what we need is people to organise to mobilise and to engage. and yes, we need people, but we need new people to accept the bible and biblical. but we need new people to accept the bible and biblical . and the bible and biblical. and that's what the church is founded all. well, i think you have both been very brave. i've seen both of you give fantastic speeches. seen both of you give fantastic speeches . synod luke , do you speeches. synod luke, do you have a red line? do you have a point where you say, look, this institution is too far gone for me to implement any change? yeah, for me the red line is absolutely doctrinal. and i think that that has to be a red line for everybody. but i think for many people it will be around what their local church in meantime be around

in the meantime it'll be around what church does and what their local church does and their local church actually ends embracing prayers embracing these prayers illegitimate prayers or whether they stand strong and orthodox. and for a lot of people that will the decision of whether they stay or go. i mean i hear what you're saying, but it sounds congregational ism sounds like congregational ism to an episcopal to me. we have an episcopal structure. know how structure. i know how we can have an apostate and have an apostate institute and rely on good individual churches. i don't know how that will work in the long term, but l, will work in the long term, but i, i pray for you guys and i, it works that what some works out that what some mulgrave luke appleton, the mulgrave and luke appleton, the church of england synod. thank you today plenty church of england synod. thank yo come today plenty church of england synod. thank yo come eveningay plenty church of england synod. thank yo come eveningay |my ty to come this evening on my common sense ed and next common sense crusade ed and next we'll speaking to member we'll be speaking to a member the team a live theatre the team behind a live theatre production passion production of the passion of jesus .

welcome back to the common sense crusade. with me, the reverend calvin robinson on your tv onune calvin robinson on your tv online and on your wireless . a online and on your wireless. a 100 strong cast returns trafalgar square on good for friday a live portrayal of the crucifixion and resurrection of jesus . it's being put on by the jesus. it's being put on by the theatre company wintershall, who's been performing the play called the passion of jesus since 2010. charlotte from wintershall joins now. charlotte, first of all, thank you for joining charlotte, first of all, thank you forjoining me. evening. what i understand you've just finished rehearsals as well, so thank you for making the time for that. what prompted you to start public performance . start a public performance. well, kelvin , we'd been doing it well, kelvin, we'd been doing it down at wintershall probably for about 30 years, not the full life of christ, but the passion and the nativity and. it it was and the nativity and. it it was an even though we had thousands of people who'd come, we felt

that certain people would never come because shopping or , you come because shopping or, you know, having cups of coffee on saturday or on good friday. so we thought we should take it out into the towns and the cities. and we started taking it to because that's our nearest town . and then we thought actually why don't we go to the very heart and we had contacted the greater london authority about trafalgar and we'd been going to truck square for 11 years and it's, you know, it's i think there was a sort of chicken parade or bunny parade that used to go on their over easter and. this is the real story of easter . so we started i love it because you're taking it to the people rather than expected people rather than expected people to come to you. and i spent lot of responses on my twitter from people saying, where is the christian element lent all this easter in the pubuc lent all this easter in the public and you are public square and you guys are

offering question is, offering it. so my question is, how are you this ? well, how how are you this? well, funding has been super difficult. this year, particularly because costs us over 100,000 to put on with the sound the big screens of security everything going up . so security everything going up. so if you've got anybody who wants to donate or any lovely who really get what we're doing , we really get what we're doing, we would be incredibly grateful . would be incredibly grateful. hear from you . well what can hear from you. well what can people do this year and it will be very much touch and go next yeah be very much touch and go next year. at the moment it's very difficult . well, you've got an difficult. well, you've got an audience here. where can people, if they do want to donate to your cause? well, if they could go to wintershall y and t s.a. j double l dot dot uk , that would double l dot dot uk, that would be fantastic. what any you know it's a free performance . we want it's a free performance. we want it's a free performance. we want it to be free we hope they'll be as many as 20,000 people who

will come. but but actually we need people to give . otherwise need people to give. otherwise we're not going to be able to come again . what is the purpose come again. what is the purpose of it? why do do it? the purpose is to tell the story of jesus to the story of easter. it's cultural , you know, for 2000 cultural, you know, for 2000 years, the jesus story is the foundation of western really . foundation of western really. it's historical, it's educational . we use the words educational. we use the words every day and. if it happens to be spiritual for you, that's even even better because you'll hear the word as spoken in the bible being portrayed, and it's also so we go through so much pain and suffering , particularly pain and suffering, particularly in the world today . it's pain and suffering, particularly in the world today. it's an immense story of hope, a life and resurrection and the future

. and it's so positive. it's good news and we need some while charlotte to , thank you so much charlotte to, thank you so much for your ministry and thank you for your ministry and thank you for your ministry and thank you for your play and people can check you on winter plays. i'll be going down there myself to watch the passion of. oh, good. kelvin, will come see? kelvin, will you come and see? find please. i will see you find me, please. i will see you there. you, charlotte now, there. thank you, charlotte now, scuffles broke out outside an ancient kyiv monastery on thursday after a monks there refused an eviction order the day before. the monks are part of the ukrainian orthodox church and members of the church refused commission representatives entry into the 980 year old monastery to inspect its buildings. the ukrainian government has accused the ukrainian church of having ties with russia, although the church denies and says that it broke ties in may 2020 to. i'm going to come back to my panel on this one, my duellists i'll start with my nemesis, aram bustani. that's a nearly 1000 year old monastery. it's a sacred place is it ever

appropriate to kick people out of sacred ground ? well, you have of sacred ground? well, you have to have an incredibly high threshold. i think it can be appropriate this there's threshold. i think it can be a|warpriate this there's threshold. i think it can be a|war goingthis there's threshold. i think it can be a|war going on. there's threshold. i think it can be a|war going on. there'sthere's threshold. i think it can be a|war going on. there's an re's a war going on. there's an occupying there. if for occupying power there. if for whatever reason , church was in whatever reason, church was in cahoots with a foreign power to overthrow the domestic government, then i think that probably meets that threshold. but have to that it but they have to prove that it doesn't. seem like doesn't. it doesn't seem like there proof. so there are there is any proof. so there are certain conditions could be met. however, let's say it's hugely however, let's say it's a hugely serious do . it's serious thing to do. it's a hugely serious thing to do . and hugely serious thing to do. and there be very little there seems to be very little sort mention it or sort of mention of it or accountability of it by. media outlets the west . so we have outlets in the west. so we have a context in ukraine, i have to say, explicable. so you're being invaded a much more powerful invaded by a much more powerful country where you've seen the criminalisation of 11 political parties and now seeing one church being turfed out of its properties, probably. so that can be over to a separate church is more amenable to the regime now in europe we like to talk about religious freedoms religious plurality, this kind

of behaviour would not be acceptable in the european union or for any european country. and yet we talk about ukraine as a potential, you know , having potential, you know, having candidate status to join the european union . well, if it european union. well, if it carries on like that, prescribing political parties , prescribing political parties, taking the property of certain churches away from them, i don't think acceptable i think think that's acceptable i think it's incongruous our values it's incongruous with our values here. it's hardly a bastion of democracy emma accusations of democracy is emma accusations of links russia but they haven't links to russia but they haven't been propaganda is been proven is it propaganda is it paranoia . a it's a very it paranoia. it's a it's a very confusing move when you consider that the ukrainian orthodox church was once russia, it invaded ukraine, separated itself from the russian church . itself from the russian church. so there is no direct association. the ukrainian orthodox church and the russian orthodox church and the russian orthodox church. so the argument seems to be that they are somehow questionable because the patriarch russia has been outspoken in support of putin as justified. the invasion of ukraine. but that seems to me to be quite tenuous given that they

actively sought to separate themselves and to distance presumably from from those comments and from any kind of association or alignment with russia. so i think that i'm presuming and perhaps you know more than me that maybe something else going on here that i'm not aware of. but it seems to me to be extremely tenuous grounds for turfing monks out their monastery. what should doing ? the west? should we be doing? the west? i think it's important that, you know, i. i know that, kelvin, you and i disagree about this. and i've been, you know , clear and i've been, you know, clear that think it's in the in the that i think it's in the in the interests the of the west interests of the of the west geopolitically , strategically, geopolitically, strategically, to support ukraine against russia. but i do think that it's important that western don't allow themselves to be blind it to wrongdoing on the part of ukraine and this seems to mean this to me to be one such instance where perhaps the british government should use their position of close relations , ukraine to give a

relations, ukraine to give a friendly tap on the shoulder and ask, you know, what, why are you doing this? you need to justify your actions because this is not acceptable and we can't ally ourselves with this kind of behaviour, that behaviour, right? so that the objects of the has said he's never aggression are never supported aggression are and religious leaders and should all religious leaders and should all religious leaders and leaders be and our political leaders be standing freedom of standing up for freedom of worship and freedom of expression. they be expression. should they be condemning the actions of ukraine even if we're supporting the ukraine as a nation, surely we should be critical allies. i think critical allies the think critical allies is the best to it. so the head best way to put it. so the head of ukrainian orthodox church of the ukrainian orthodox church don't know he's a patriarch? don't know if he's a patriarch? i think you guys can i don't think so. you guys can correct but that the head correct me, but that the head honcho this as you honcho of this church, as you said, broke with with said, they broke with with russia in 2022, was a was a long time coming. and what this chap is on the hook for is being saying that what's going on in ukraine right. is a proxy war between the united states and russia now you might find that absurd or ridiculous. you might agree, but frankly, those on the grounds by which to evict a monastery and like like we've said if you if believe in

freedom of classical expression once at the caveat of course there is a war and yes those aren't normal conditions for freedom expression, but there freedom of expression, but there should threshold should a very high threshold here doing here for doing. they're doing and see any evidence for and i don't see any evidence for it being met and. i think that's the question the british, the french government, western governments be asking. where's the and what's the the evidence and what's the threshold? does feel threshold? because it does feel and this is all entirely and again, this is all entirely understandable. there's a polarisation in ukrainian civil society around the russia issue and proximity to russia, russian culture and whatnot . and if culture and whatnot. and if you're not with kyiv and if you're not with kyiv and if you're not with kyiv and if you're not totally identifying with their term objectives for the country then you're on the outside . that applies to outside. that applies to political parties to . and so political parties to. and so this idea that anybody who entirely agree with the regime is therefore a patsy for russia dangerous and like i say that's not really how democracies conduct themselves . i don't conduct themselves. i don't agree with this war and i don't agree with this war and i don't agree with this war and i don't agree with our blind support of the ukraine. however, i'm definitely not a patsy for russia i've been about russia i've been talking about russia i've been talking about

russia being our for a long, long time before ukraine long time before the ukraine situation. problem, situation. is this the problem, emma? this is to black emma? is it to this is to black and white. there's no nuance anymore. it's all hero worship and you know, and idolatry, you know, zelenskyy it's zelenskyy or hail. it's difficult i a difficult because i think in a situation where there is an active conflict, you do for strategic be strategic reasons, need be quiet, and you do quiet, black and white. you do need unequivocal. need to be unequivocal. sometimes in your support of one side over the other. and i think it's right for us to be unequivocal in support for unequivocal in our support for ukraine. that i think in ukraine. that said, i think in real terms in terms of, you know, how our leaders and politicians understand the nature of the conflict, i think there's thing but, you know, there's thing but, you know, there's a difference between unequivocal support and unequivocal public support and the way that you understand what's going on on the ground. and i think that they need to be not equivocal thinking not equivocal in their thinking about ukraine, but they need to be critical, they need to be rational and they need to be rigorous in how they approach this. otherwise, know, my this. otherwise, you know, my argument is from strategic this. otherwise, you know, my argunof|t is from strategic this. otherwise, you know, my argunof view rom strategic this. otherwise, you know, my argunof view and strategic this. otherwise, you know, my argunof view and st|can'tc this. otherwise, you know, my argunof view and st|can't be point of view and you can't be strategic if you don't know what you're very well. you're talking about very well. thank now, before thank you very much. now, before we take a final break, let's

have a at what you've had have a look at what you've had to about topics. liz to say about today's topics. liz says and many others know do says i and many others i know do want choice of dying as when want the choice of dying as when or they. you cannot put or if they. you cannot put yourself in other people's minds and them choice. and decide for them choice. i watched mum five in watched my mum for five days in hospital when simple injection hospital when a simple injection would torment. would end her torment. i understand, liz, and suffering is never easy. but the question of into reverse would of put back into reverse would be what? there was a solution and you only out after the injection. how you feel then? jill says i've got osteoporosis. i want to decide when i die . i i want to decide when i die. i don't want to die an unbearable death. i have no money, nothing to leave anyone. no one's going to leave anyone. no one's going to coerce me. you healthy people have no right to make people with decision diseases with painful decision diseases die horrible death. it's not die a horrible death. it's not about people desirable about making people desirable die horrible it's die of horrible death. it's about right to end about do we have right to end people's lives? do we have that right? that's the question. margaret law as have margaret says the law as we have it should stand a society. it now, should stand a society. it our only protection it is our only protection against those would do harm against those who would do harm if someone helps a loved one to die out of what they believe are, the best motives they will

have their day in court. and no judge send to prison judge would send them to prison if their case clear. if they make their case clear. but those protections but if we take those protections away, we're all danger, we away, we're all in danger, we all grow old and vulnerable. absolutely. we have to protect the in society. the most vulnerable in society. margaret, you are on the margaret, i think you are on the money with that one. thank you all wonderful comments. all for your wonderful comments. please in please keep them coming in vaiews@gbnews.uk. special vaiews@gbnews.uk. and a special thank duellists this thank you to my duellists this evening, sidekick, webb evening, my sidekick, emma webb , boustani . and , my nemesis, our boustani. and coming up in final part of my common search crusade, this week, we'll be speaking to former president adviser to president trump sebastian gorka about his background. see shortly . there we go .

welcome back. early on this week, six people were killed when a transgender activist attacked a private christian elementary school in nashville. so i took to twitter and asked as a transgender is attacks become more common. should hostile left political groups be proscribed and condemned in the same way as hostile groups on the far right ? same way as hostile groups on the far right? is same way as hostile groups on the far right ? is it time to

the far right? is it time to clamp down on anti western hard left ideologies and an overwhelming majority of you just about 80% back that idea. thank you very much for all of your tweets and emails this evening. now former president donald trump is expected surrender to authorities in new york on tuesday. this is the first time a us president has ever been indicted in the in the entire history. the charges to alleged hush money paid to adult film star stormy daniels during his 2016 election campaign. mr. trump denies the charges and affair with ms. daniels. joining me now live from washington, d.c. is a man who knows the president very well and was his adviser during his presidency in the white house. sebastian gorka my the white house. sebastian gorka my good friend. so i thank you for joining us this evening. if mr. trump has nothing to hide , mr. trump has nothing to hide, shouldn't this case shouldn't he welcome this case to prove his innocence ? well, i to prove his innocence? well, i don't think anybody welcome such a case, calvin. after seven years of political adversity . years of political adversity. let's let's look at this one eventin let's let's look at this one event in context . what is this

event in context. what is this man and his family and people who work for him like i what have we been put through? first it was never heard of before in american history. a try service, secret intelligence operation called crossfire hurricane . your called crossfire hurricane. your viewers should look it up in the fbi, the cia, the nsa to inveigle themselves into the trump to create some kind of russia collusion narrative . russia collusion narrative. then, once he was elected , what then, once he was elected, what happened? the democrat crats empowered. somebody called robert muller, the former director of the fbi gave him 20 months, almost two years, $30 million. scores of agents to prove that there some kind of russia collusion that failed when they couldn't him down with those they had the first impeachment failed . second impeachment failed. second impeachment failed. second impeachment failed. second impeachment failed. then he left office. that wasn't enough . they office. that wasn't enough. they had to raid his home where he is guarded 4 hours a day by the secret service , kick his secret service, kick his attorneys out of the building,

rifle through milan , the first rifle through milan, the first lady's sock drawer , and just do lady's sock drawer, and just do something we never heard of before . and then we had the before. and then we had the january six committee. so this is just another example of what the v.a. beria the for the for founder of the kgb said show me the man and i will find you the crime . it is utter, utter crime. it is utter, utter disgrace . it is the antithesis disgrace. it is the antithesis of rule of law. well, twice impeached, now indicted . is this impeached, now indicted. is this the politics of the 21st century to persecute your opponent rather than to defeat their ideas ? i really don't answer ideas? i really don't answer that , ideas? i really don't answer that, calvin. i'm an immigrant to the united . as you know, to the united. as you know, i was born in the uk my father at the age 26, was liberated by freedom fighters from a communist political in hungary. he was given a life sentence for being an anti—communist. he was betrayed by. kim philby in 1960. theidea betrayed by. kim philby in 1960. the idea that i sit here in

washington dc right . and i have washington dc right. and i have to talk about political persecution america that we have january six date detainees from the protest on january six who are still in prison now less than three miles from where i sit , who have not even been sit, who have not even been arraigned . they have been in arraigned. they have been in solitary for two years without arraignment. that is against the constitution . you are you are constitution. you are you are you are absolutely assured swift just this prompt justice. so well i've seen videos of these protesters being escorted through capitol building and the police opening the doors for them. it's shocking . but all of them. it's shocking. but all of this surely is to create a martyr of donald trump. surely this is going to boost his popularity? yeah, i said it on another one of the your channels shows. i think earlier with angela rippon, i said it's like the it's like the original wars movie gallery, you know , where

movie gallery, you know, where alec guinness says to darth vader, if you strike me down now , i will be stronger than i have ever been. think about this. just the pure mathematics. this man, six years ago, gone . it's man, six years ago, gone. it's 63 million votes. two years ago, he'd garnered 74 million votes. that's the most votes for an incumbent president ever. and now a lot of people who maybe didn't like his style are going to say what nondisclosure agreements ? seven years ago. are agreements? seven years ago. are you kidding me ? they're charging you kidding me? they're charging him with a felony. i think he's going to be more powerful than he's ever been. elon musk tweeted it, calvin, when the first news came out about the indictment. indictment? even musk no. trump's supporter, said they guarantee that he will they just guarantee that he will be the 47th president of the united states and elon, be right. well, there's a question for you. when is he going to start tweeting again? i think because he has his own media platform. true i think for the time he'll stick there, but maybe i can be safe in predicting not too long before

election campaign gets into its final stages , you might be final stages, you might be seeing him back on platform as well . and our final question , well. and our final question, will his followers any other result than not guilty ? no result than not guilty? no absolutely not. well, once we've seen the fbi read pro—life past as home just a few months ago with guns loaded because he's a concert pretty pro—life pro—life activist . they see this as all activist. they see this as all connected know this this this for the 74 million americans who voted for president trump is a star chamber. is a witch hunt. and it must not be allowed to stand . there we go. thank you stand. there we go. thank you very much. that's sebastian gorka, former adviser to president. thank you for your time today . each week on the time today. each week on the show, we like to end our closing prayer. is the colleagues prayer. here is the colleagues of the day of god have made all those born in christ a chosen race and a royal priesthood grant. as we pray the grace to will and to do what you command

that the people called to eternal life may be one in the faith of their hearts and the homage of their deeds through our lord jesus christ, your son who lives and reigns with you in the unity of holy ghost. one the unity of the holy ghost. one god a world without amen. god have a world without amen. you been watching calvin's you have been watching calvin's common with . common sense crusade with. calvin robinson. i will back with you next saturday actually at 6 p.m. because we have our gb news easter special. look out for. and of course i'll be for. and then of course i'll be back at p.m. next saturday too back at 7 p.m. next saturday too for my common crusade. so for my common sense crusade. so a whammy on me next week. a double whammy on me next week. sorry about that. it's palm sunday as well. don't sunday tomorrow as well. don't forget, to church. have a forget, go to church. have a blessed week and see blessed holy week and i will see you side next stop. you on the other side next stop. it's saturday five. before it's the saturday five. before that weather. have a good that is the weather. have a good one. bless. see you soon. one. god bless. see you soon. dashboard hello there. i'm jonathan vautrey here. here's your latest updates from memphis. after a relatively cloudy start to april, there changes on the way as we head into the second half of the weekend . high pressure is weekend. high pressure is building in from the west, helping to settle things down

and bring in some fair weather and bring in some fair weather and push low pressure centre out of the way. for stuff the evening though we still do have some occluded fronts in present and that will bring outbreaks of rain to western scotland, parts of northern ireland and also push way into southeastern push its way into southeastern areas as well. as we areas of england as well. as we move the second of the move the second half of the night though , start feeding night though, we start feeding in drier air. the in some drier air. the scandinavian region . and that's scandinavian region. and that's just going to help clear some of that out way for that cloud out of the way for parts northumberland, parts of northumberland, yorkshire. are yorkshire. but temperatures are also drop off a bit also going to drop off a bit more, but generally holding up around four or five degrees celsius. but is to celsius. but air is going to continue to push its way from continue to push its way in from the east as move throughout the east as we move throughout sunday, that sunday, helping to break up that cloud areas of cloud across seven areas of scotland, central, eastern england. looking england. and sunday is looking like brighter and sunny like a much brighter and sunny day for west. that day here for the west. that front is just lingering with a bit of cloud and patchy rain possible scotland possible across scotland northern wales. but northern ireland and wales. but temperatures out in the west around 13, 14 degrees celsius. it feel chilly in the it will feel chilly in the breeze across parts suffolk, kent and essex , but that will

kent and essex, but that will tend to ease its way out as we move throughout the sunday evening . during the night, we'll evening. during the night, we'll hold onto good number of clear hold onto a good number of clear intervals will allow intervals and that will allow temperatures away quite temperatures to drop away quite widely. could be a widely. so there could be a widespread particularly widely. so there could be a widesofaad particularly widely. so there could be a widesof england particularly widely. so there could be a widesof england and:icularly widely. so there could be a widesof england and walesy widely. so there could be a widesof england and wales. widely. so there could be a widesof england and wales . we parts of england and wales. we have start to the new have a chilly start to the new week, but a sunny one once again thanks to high pressure in place and a good number of sunny intervals, the sunshine will turn northern ireland turn hazier for northern ireland as breeze begins to as the breeze begins to strengthen well. and it's all strengthen as well. and it's all due these fronts that are due to these fronts that are wanting in wanting to push their way in again from west. but high again from the west. but high pressure trying pressure is still trying to remain in charge certainly for southeastern areas, the uk, it will settled as we will remain rather settled as we head throughout the new week. but just need watch out but areas just need to watch out for rain that will push its for some rain that will push its way for wednesday. but way for in wednesday. but i joined camilla tominey from 930 on sunday morning when . i'll be on sunday morning when. i'll be asking former environment secretary george eustice about the government's costly net zero plans. i'm also going to be joined in the studio former foreign secretary sir malcolm rifkind, to talk about donald

trump's arrest, among other things. and i'll asking things. and i'll be asking labour's charlie faulkner, whether keir starmer's whether sir keir starmer's pledge to cut council tax is really the paper, it's really worth the paper, it's written on. whatever you do, don't miss camilla tominey don't miss the camilla tominey show sunday morning from show this sunday morning from 930 .