are stuck in the people are stuck in the seventies and unions are often accused of that, but actually it's not us that stuck in the seventies. it's often tory politicians and right wing commentators who are stuck with the language of the seventies, accusing us of doing all sorts of things that we don't. and i think they find it difficult to deal with deal like me or deal with some deal like me or the other women leaders that i negotiate final question negotiate with. final question what union general what do trade union general secretaries do for food .7 me secretaries do for food.7 me personally, so i. i like music i like the opera and i don't see why somebody from a working class background i shouldn't like the opera . it's something like the opera. it's something i've come to fairly late in life, but i have to say i do like it. i also like to read and i like detective novels . i like i like detective novels. i like to cook and i like to walk . so to cook and i like to walk. so those are not in very easy to cooperate, pretty much like anybody else. but i would like to tell you, you know, that i've played some exotic instrument in my spare time. i don't .

my spare time. i don't. christina mckinney, general secretary of unison, britain's biggest trade . thank you for us. biggest trade. thank you for us. insight into your world. thank you. thanks for watching. no show on easter sunday, but i'll be back with . three more great be back with. three more great political interviews for you on the 16th of april. a week on . the 16th of april. a week on. sunday hello, i'm kate snow. and here is the latest forecast from the met office as we go for the next few days. for most of us, it is going to be dry. we've plenty of sunshine, but that will certainly lead to some frosty nights still. so here's the situation. we've got high pressure charge of pressure generally in charge of the weather, keeping things settled. the weather, keeping things settled close by. across the the weather, keeping things settle of lose by. across the the weather, keeping things settle of here, by. across the the weather, keeping things settle of here, still:ross the the weather, keeping things settle of here, still:ross risk of north of here, still the risk of some splashes of rain time some splashes of rain from time to time . so for the rest of for to time. so for the rest of for sunday, a lot of england and wales, we end the day on a clear and dry note in the clear skies will spread way will eventually spread their way into as the night goes

into scotland as the night goes on. but for northern ireland we're hang on to some here we're hang on to some cloud here and breeze, and thanks to a lovely breeze, temperatures here probably remaining 5 to 6 degrees. remaining around 5 to 6 degrees. but certainly a touch but elsewhere certainly a touch of frost , at least the of frost, at least in the countryside . but i set this up countryside. but i set this up for a lovely to the new working week lots of sunshine for the country . but again, northern country. but again, northern ireland hanging on to a little bit more with way of cloud here. so sunshine rather limited and thanks that breeze, thanks to that breeze, temperatures probably not reaching higher in 9 to ii reaching much higher in 9 to 11 degrees. but elsewhere in the sunshine after that cold start , sunshine after that cold start, we will see highs reaching 14, possibly 15 degrees. so feeling fairly the time of fairly pleasant for the time of year into the evening . very year into the evening. very little changes really across england , scotland and wales. england, scotland and wales. lots of sunshine to end the day. but again, the cloud continuing across northern ireland and nice we go for the course of the night. we will actually start to see some rain arrive in here and that may well also just arrive into the far west of scotland as the goes on. but the night goes on. but elsewhere, the clear elsewhere, under the clear skies, frosty night skies, another frosty night to come. the

come. but again, in the countryside, temperatures probably to around minus two, maybe degrees . maybe even minus three degrees. but again give us but that will again give us a fairly lovely start across england and wales and also eastern scotland and very little changes as we go for the course of the day. but for western scotland and northern ireland here, some here, always the risk, some splashes and this rain, splashes of rain and this rain, more eventually moving across alpha parts of the country as we go the middle of the week welcome to mark dolan tonight. in my big opinion, the new law that allows employees sue their bosses if they get offended at work . well, this insane policy work. well, this insane policy offends me deeply in the big story as he confirms he will not attend the king's coronation . attend the king's coronation. and does joe biden hate uk.7 we'll and does joe biden hate uk? we'll be talking to. paul burrell, diana's former butler

exclusively mark dolan tonight . exclusively mark dolan tonight. and my malt meets guest is the guardian columnist polly toynbee is a labour government now inevitable big , is a labour government now inevitable big, big stories and big opinions. inevitable big, big stories and big opinions . lively 2 hours to big opinions. lively 2 hours to come. but first, the headlines with our in armstrong . let's get with our in armstrong. let's get you up to date with the latest from the gb newsroom. the home secretary has singled out british pakistani man over concerns about grooming gangs as she prepares to announce new measures to tackle child sexual . writing in the mail on sunday says authorities have turned a blind eye over fears of being labelled racist , bigoted. blind eye over fears of being labelled racist, bigoted. she's pledged to put people working with children in england under a new legal duty to report signs of suspicious or signs or suspicions of sexual abuse. safeguarding minister sarah dines says it's a scourge our society. cards stop in making

that people are protected. children are the most vulnerable part of our society as. well as the elderly. we must make sure that they're not sexually abused. so i don't we're going to be rife with false reports that one or two. and they that may be one or two. and they be with and identified. be dealt with and identified. the overwhelming people that gave are speaking gave evidence are speaking the truth inquiry . and it was truth to the inquiry. and it was very heartbreaking testimony . we very heartbreaking testimony. we need act . the port of dover need to act. the port of dover says. need to act. the port of dover says . it's working to clear the says. it's working to clear the backlog of coaches that are trying to cross the english channel as soon possible. passengers have again faced passengers have once again faced long of up to 8 hours. long delays of up to 8 hours. it's all coaches have now reached the port. easter holiday makers are still facing further hours of waiting to have their passports checked . port passports checked. port officials have blamed delays on a lengthy immigration process. but suella braverman has rejected suggestions brexit is responsible . families of two responsible. families of two british man being detained in afghanistan say are being treated fairly , spoken to them

treated fairly, spoken to them in what they've described as an unscripted emotional call . a unscripted emotional call. a spokesman for two of the men being held. that's kevin cornwall and a second unnamed man says it represents tremendous progress . they've tremendous progress. they've beenin tremendous progress. they've been in custody since january. it's unclear, though, how long. the third man, the so—called danger tourist, myles rutledge, has been held. the government says it's in negotiations regarding their. says it's in negotiations regarding their . at least one regarding their. at least one person has been killed and five others injured in an explosion taken at a cafe in russia's second city, st petersburg . second city, st petersburg. state owned news agencies report 19 people are hospital at the moment. the prominent pro—russian military blog vlad two task is confirmed to have died . he's a vocal supporter of died. he's a vocal supporter of war in ukraine. a local news website has reported the cafe was once owned by prigozhin, the head of russia's wagner group, a notorious private army of mercenaries fighting ukraine. no

one has yet claimed responsibility responsibility . responsibility responsibility. 29 people are now known to have died after series of tornadoes swept through the states. officials say than 40 reports were made across seven states in the south and midwest of the country on friday. homes have been destroyed and cars flipped over and crushed. an entire school in arkansas was ripped apart with students and teachers saying they're grateful not to have been inside . the president, have been inside. the president, joe biden's, declared a major disaster in that state and has ordered federal support to help the recovery . tv online , dab, the recovery. tv online, dab, radio and on tuned in to this is gb news now it's back to . gb news now it's back to. mark my thanks to our anne who's back in an hour's time. my thanks to our anne who's back in an hour's time . this is mark in an hour's time. this is mark dolan tonight in my big opinion the bonkers new law which will

allow to sue their bosses if somebody offends them at work . somebody offends them at work. well, this insane policy offends me deeply . in the well, this insane policy offends me deeply. in the big well, this insane policy offends me deeply . in the big story, as me deeply. in the big story, as he confirms , will not attend the he confirms, will not attend the king's does joe biden hates britain. i'll be asking princess diana's former butler, paul, live and exclusive in just a few moments . is a live and exclusive in just a few moments. is a labour government now inevitable bolt and has sir keir starmer finally worked out what a woman is? i'll put that to my mouth meets guest legendary guardian journalist polly live in the studio . it polly live in the studio. it might take a turn the move to a cashless society is a direct assault on people power by not having its cash is king is the bumper new trans—pacific trade deal a game changer for britain and all those delays in dover really down to brexit? i'll be asking ann widdecombe, who is tonight's newsmaker. mark dolan tonight is the home of the

papers with tomorrow's front pages at exactly 1030 with three top pundits who haven't been told what to say and who don't follow the script . tonight, follow the script. tonight, historian , political commentator historian, political commentator david oldroyd bolt , journalist david oldroyd bolt, journalist and political consultant emma burnell and former mp and former neil parish . he'll be talking neil parish. he'll be talking now. i'll be asking my top punst now. i'll be asking my top pundits later in the hour with literary classic gone with the wind set to include trigger warnings . is wind set to include trigger warnings. is it wrong to censor works of the past? all suella braverman policies ? and are you braverman policies? and are you to the internet will discuss of that plus your emails the spicy ones market gb news .uk. this show has a golden rule. we don't do boring. not on my watch i just won't have it. but take 2 hours to come. and let me tell you. got a big cup of coffee. here, look it up. hmm. beautiful. nescafe gold blend.

it's all in the beans . a big it's all in the beans. a big show to come. let's start with my big opinion. show to come. let's start with my big opinion . welcome to hell my big opinion. welcome to hell . the telegraph newspaper report that new harassment rules on the edge of becoming law will enable to sue the nhs if a patient insults them . it will allow bar insults them. it will allow bar staff to take legal action against landlords if they're offended by a drunk . and it will offended by a drunk. and it will allow barristers to in coffee shop take the onus to a tribunal if they owe they hear offensive remarks by customers. well this madness offends me deeply . this madness offends me deeply. this story comes hot off the heels of a report in the newspaper in february. suggesting pub bosses now so worried about this new they could have to hire banter bouncers to police boozy chats proposed laws rules to protect workers from being harassed may

give them the right to sue if jokes or they hear offend them. an update to the equalities act aims to stop people getting abused work. they would argue workers have no but to go to workers have no but to go to work and therefore they need and deserve protection from hateful conduct by patrons. rubbish. all this does is pile extra rules, costs and bureaucracy onto bosses who will have to become agents . state censorship . agents. state censorship. ultimately, it will leave punters in the pub unable to shout at the telly or crack a naughty joke. without putting landlords at risk , being sued by landlords at risk, being sued by upsets staff. it sounds made , upsets staff. it sounds made, doesn't it? but it's real. the government overplayed their hand . the pandemic micromanaging lives and even deciding our movements . well, now they want movements. well, now they want to micromanage . what we think to micromanage. what we think and what we say. it all represents what george orwell famously described the thought police creating a grim dystopia

so censorious it would have the nonh so censorious it would have the north koreans blushing cancel culture has reached its nadir . culture has reached its nadir. when you can't make an edgy remark , a public setting without remark, a public setting without , having your collar felt the united kingdom, supposedly the home of liberal democracy and free, has completely lost its way . this mad. new legislation . way. this mad. new legislation. theidea way. this mad. new legislation. the idea that this won't lead to a flurry of long and excuse tribunals and court cases is naive at best. the rich schools of fragile snowflakes who will seize upon their right not be offended, and who will happily their employees through the courts for a remark that they may have heard that they didn't like , which wasn't even aimed at like, which wasn't even aimed at them . when is this madness going them. when is this madness going end in scotland the snp's delightful new stirrer. sorry leader. humza delightful new stirrer. sorry leader . humza yousaf. draughty leader. humza yousaf. draughty so—called hate crime in scotland, which opened the door to your arrest for something

offensive at home in the privacy offensive at home in the privacy of your own four walls. well, in england and wales we now face that same threats in a hospital setting in our local boozer or even when we're chugging a latte in starbucks or costa , the in starbucks or costa, the government must think again it's time to wake up and smell the . coffee welcome back to the show. reacting to the big stories of the day, we've got my brilliant pundits. let me ask you, is this legislation to get on top of hateful protect all hateful and to protect all groups in our community, particularly when they're in a place of work where they should be safe, maybe homes that use up place of work where they should be rights1aybe homes that use up place of work where they should be rights to 'be homes that use up place of work where they should be rights to prosecute that use up place of work where they should be rights to prosecute hatefula up his rights to prosecute hateful language at home where, of course , you hear plenty of course, you will hear plenty of it that you stamp it out.

it is that you stamp it out. that's not my view. but what's yours? market gbnews.uk . let's yours? market gbnews.uk. let's get views now historian , get the views now of historian, political commentator david oldroyd bolt, journalist in political consulting emma burnell and former mp and now former neil parish , m.a. let me former neil parish, m.a. let me start with you. your reaction to this legislation, it needs to be watered down it. it needs to be clear and concise is what i would say. can i first say that the majority of this legislation is actually about sexual abuse and harassment and is really important. you cannot walk away from your workplace . you will from your workplace. you will lose your job if you do that. and too many people, therefore, having to put up with really appalling behaviour from customers and clients because are too scared to walk away from job and lose their income . it job and lose their income. it shouldn't be that way round. so there really important safeguards that we do need to have in the workplace to make sure that people aren't abused. my sense is that what we need to do is set thresholds for this. so i don't believe i genuinely

don't believe and i don't think that given that the legislation being steered by free speech champion that we are going to see people prosecuted for shouting the referee on the telly. i'm sorry for using the word you encouraged to use, but . free speech. but i actually, i don't think i correct myself. i don't think i correct myself. i don't think i correct myself. i don't think there be watered down. it should be complete ditched. this whole policy, this whole legislation, because it's an affront , a free western an affront, a free western society doesn't seem like there's a single thing envisaged here that isn't already an offence under some other piece offence under some other piece of legislation . i do find it of legislation. i do find it quite grimly ironic that rishi sunak, who ran a policy of getting rid of work, which he said modern life is said permeate modern life is allowing through it. i'm allowing this through it. i'm afraid confirms . allowing this through it. i'm afraid confirms. i allowing this through it. i'm afraid confirms . i thought at afraid it confirms. i thought at the time that he was using that as a line to try and hoover up votes the faithful votes from the tory faithful that would otherwise go that he knew would otherwise go to truss. and what's to liz truss. and what's the surprise did. must with surprise they did. i must with emma don't think that is emma i don't think that there is anything we need is

anything here that we need is not already there. if is sexual harassment in the workplace that is dealt with if there is sexual harassment from a customer that can be dealt, you can certainly be dealt, you report them the pm that's report them to the pm that's never acceptable. well for never been acceptable. well for a very, very long time a very, very, very long time indeed. a very, very, very long time indeed . certainly not within our indeed. certainly not within our lifetimes. working lifetimes. and it doesn't me in and it doesn't surprise me in the comes from a the least. this comes from a liberal, neither of whom parts the least. this comes from a libwhose either of whom parts the least. this comes from a libwhose either of in|om parts the least. this comes from a libwhose either of in any parts the least. this comes from a libwhose either of in any way; of whose name is in any way apposite to what. they are. they are neither liberal nor democrat. anyone who's had anything in anything to do them in campaigning that are anything to do them in can most|ing that are anything to do them in can most vicious that are anything to do them in can most vicious of that are anything to do them in canmost vicious of political are the most vicious of political operators. to try operators. and for them to try and this on the statute just and put this on the statute just shows a viciousness extends what you your own house or you say in your own house or pub. mean, my concern pub. yes. i mean, my concern about neil is it will about this neil is that it will provoke a tsunami of court cases and from a generation of woke snowflakes. that was actually the point i wanted to make to you, mark, is that i think you know, i hate things landing up in court and i'm afraid this is exactly it will go and you see, i mean , what you can't do is an i mean, what you can't do is an employer especially if you're running pub , if you're if running a pub, if you're if you're a shopkeeper, you really

can't what your your can't control what your your shoppers and your punters in the pub are going to say. no, we don't want anything too drastic in there. but why should you? who are owner of who actually are the owner of the pub or owner of the shop? actually be held directly responsible? i think this is what worries me and think , you what worries me and i think, you know, is it's a lawyer's know, it it is it's a lawyer's charter. again and do we actually need it? and mean i mean, you made the point about big brother mean we better off having television up there actually sort of monitoring everything we're saying and doing that where doing i mean, is that where we're well just know, we're going? well just you know, it can't be done. mean, it just can't be done. i mean, directly benefit from free speech. do. of course speech. we all do. of course i did say you're a playwright as well and you do great comedy. you could probably your pub you could probably get your pub landlord or sued, landlord arrested or sued, certainly with his certainly in trouble with his staff if you just loudly quoted an early stand up routine from billy connolly , i genuinely as i billy connolly, i genuinely as i say, early billy connolly comedy is as hateful. say, early billy connolly comedy is as hateful . look, say, early billy connolly comedy is as hateful. look, i'm a massive, massive billy connolly fan. don't you think it is

naughty? i'm genuinely i don't think that that is going be what happens. we are what what needs to be put in statute and law is bad law and i agree with my fellow panellists that this should be that there should be thresholds mean that this thresholds that mean that this has that been reached so has be that has been reached so that it can't just be people swearing at each other in a pub. if you're a bit of a clutter and don't like swearing. but there there duty of care to there is a duty of care to employees from employers can't we this i it's also all we this i mean it's also all this is doing reducing the this law is doing reducing the number of incidents to 3 to 1. so it's not actually a massive leap in the law. and i think that if let's, say, somebody goes into a cafe right and the waiter or the waitress brings them their coffee and they say , them their coffee and they say, after you've served that coffee, i'm going to kill you or i'm going to assault you. that is a clear a clear thing. if, however the person says , you know, the person says, you know, hello, darling, you're gorgeous , or if they tell a rude joke, the person that's having a

coffee with them , i think that's coffee with them, i think that's an important freedom . well, i an important freedom. well, i people i mean that low grade sexual harassment that just happens all the time. nobody's going to the police about that. legislate against it. can you. i mean you can i'm not sure that you walk always shirtless or rapist. well, i mean, the rapist. well, i mean, that's the other which that we other question, which is that we don't have any law fit for purpose at the moment. it seems i would put much more emphasis deaung i would put much more emphasis dealing with more serious crime . this is why we need to in this legislation. well, i don't know that we need to bend this legislation, but i think we need to think about what this little station is for. think about it societally about in societally and think about in the we actually have the workplace. we actually have the workplace. we actually have the moment. a big problem that people can't was talking people can't hire. i was talking to someone morning who tried to someone morning who had tried to someone morning who had tried to hire for a job in glasgow and they just didn't get in the so it may well be actually employers enforce this workplace themselves by going to good workplaces dealing with rage about this because who the hell decides what hate speech is? and also what you know,

also mean what is, you know, what is just what is what is just and what is offensive and who is actually going to decide this as well and, you know, is thing that's actually going to land up in a court of law the crazy oh no it would be an accident the tribunal a monster people just won't title people walking around ready to be offended and now they've the law on their side. i'm afraid this comes back to misguided in to a really misguided phrase in the report 1994 stated the report of 1994 that stated that racist was any incident that a racist was any incident that a racist was any incident that was to be racist, either by the person at whom it was directed or by any other bystander. and i think from that well—meaning colonel, which is, of into the of course, the report into the murder lawrence has murder of stephen lawrence has sprung a great deal, a curtain twitching and of people taking offence people's offence on other people's behalves. if you are the subject of abuse or sexual of racist abuse or sexual harassment or harassment at of homophobia or any of abuse, it is any other sort of abuse, it is on you to go to the police if necessary and reported it's not for other people to go around taking offence your behalf for other people to go around takini offence your behalf for other people to go around takini offenit's your behalf for other people to go around takini offenit's a your behalf for other people to go around takini offenit's a reallerhalf and. i think it's a really pernicious piece legislation. and. i think it's a really pthinkous piece legislation. and. i think it's a really pthink its piece legislation. and. i think it's a really pthink it continues legislation. and. i think it's a really pthink it continues pernicious. i think it continues pernicious legislation that's been enshrined . this conservative enshrined. this conservative

government and i think it should be struck away and i'm so glad that are already conservative ministers coming out and saying and peers coming and conservative peers coming out this be out and saying this not be legislation. you go a legislation. then you go a charter for thin skinned narcissists . that's my view. narcissists. that's my view. what's yours market? i think it's a nightmare for employers i think it's ridiculous that nhs could get sued. they've already spent enough of our money without having to have court cases and tribunals because a patient just swore because their plaster was ripped off too speedily. coming up next in the big story with the us president, king charles, coronation joined by the top us doctor . we'll by the top us doctor. we'll discuss his health, but also the former bodyguard to princess diana and not bodyguard, by the way, butler let's be clear. i mean, he's he's beefy. he's that strong. now, the former butler , strong. now, the former butler, princess of course, it is princess diana, of course, it is paul burrell. that's .

next a law to people from being offended in workplace. the world's gone mad . your reaction, world's gone mad. your reaction, mark? i cannot believe what i'm heanng mark? i cannot believe what i'm hearing says . it's crazy how. hearing says. it's crazy how. can a boss be held responsible for what someone says to the government? want to ? take our government? want to? take our brains and put them in a machine that only says and thinks we're allowed. stand up people . i'm as allowed. stand up people. i'm as mad hell. well thank you for mad as hell. well thank you for that. keep emails coming. that. keep those emails coming. so strong views on this. so many strong views on this. how this from darrell. good evening, darrell. welcome to mark dolan tonight darrell. says, what on earth has happened to the british? why so many people become so easily offended by others having a laugh? but what they find funny stop being a snowflake and try to a bunch of snowflake and try to sense free speech in our free country . toughen yourselves up country. toughen yourselves up and get a spine . darrell, thank and get a spine. darrell, thank you for that . look, you guys you for that. look, you guys don't pull your punches which is what i love about those emails. keep them coming market gbnews.uk . and it's time now for gbnews.uk. and it's time now for the story and last night's

the big story and last night's big opinion on this show broke the internet it was in reaction to joe biden's announced that he will not be attending the king's coronation in may. what i had to say . of the free world. joe say. of the free world. joe biden, a man less equipped to perform his duties than a eunuch on his wedding nights , has on his wedding nights, has interrupted one of his many daytime time naps in order to announce that he will not be attending the king's coronation . the uk america's closest ally, an economic military and diplomatic partner on the world stage, will not be honoured with the presence of man so decrepit he makes the cast of last of the summer wine look positively sprightly . the only advantage of sprightly. the only advantage of biden not coming is that at least he won't up and forget king charles's name and call him princess diana or something. but this decision by the president and his team is an extraordinary to the united kingdom . not just to the united kingdom. not just my view , but a view supported by

my view, but a view supported by the legendary canadian academic, dr. jordan peterson. last night , who showed his agreement to his millions of followers with one word. yes absolutely . it's one word. yes absolutely. it's an insult. so what is the reason 7 an insult. so what is the reason ? his absence? is he really too old to travel those distances or does joe biden hate britain to debate this? i'm delighted to welcome . all the way from welcome. all the way from beverly hills in california , beverly hills in california, political commentator and a woman known as america's psyche , dr. carol lieberman and former butler to diana , princess of butler to diana, princess of wales. and i'm a celebrity star. paul burrell. paul great to have you back on the show. do you think that joe biden has , a think that joe biden has, a problem with britain ? mark i'm problem with britain? mark i'm going to disagree with you because i know that this looks unusual , but because i know that this looks unusual, but this move does have a president, dwight eisenhower did not attend queen elizabeth's coronation in 1953. and joe biden is just following suit.

he's a head of state. and also, you have to that our late queen not attend other heads of states coronations or funerals in europe. she sent her deputy who who was then our crown prince in fact the prince of wales. and so really this will not affect diplomatic relations between britain . america. i know the britain. america. i know the king. i know that he will not be a send personally by this and he will embrace all of europe's heads of state when they come to the coronation. i don't really think that he will miss joe being that , especially as mrs. being that, especially as mrs. biden might be there in his place . well, the 1950s were a place. well, the 1950s were a long time . and i would argue dr. long time. and i would argue dr. carole lieberman, that whilst i've never been cheerleader for donald trump, if he was president right now , he'd be president right now, he'd be going , yes, president right now, he'd be going, yes, so president right now, he'd be

going , yes, so lutely. this president right now, he'd be going, yes, so lutely. this is just one more embarrassing from biden. i mean, you know, it's like holding on for the ride till his term is over holding on hoping there's going to be no other disasters but you know he's excuse was that he was too old to travel was one excuse. in other excuse was that he had a pnon other excuse was that he had a prior. now may six does happen to be sigmund freud birthday. so maybe he's going to an birthday party for him and i'm just being facetious . obviously, this is facetious. obviously, this is this is horrible , you know, with this is horrible, you know, with the world most serious aspect of this is that with the world turning against us, our thanks to biden and thanks to what he did in afghanistan , thanks to, did in afghanistan, thanks to, you know, so that all these enemies, starting with russia and, ukraine but, you know, going to china and iran and all of them that, you know, this they're seeing that america is weak . and so you would think weak. and so you would think that at a time like this when

all enemies are jumping up to you know, to take advantage of this weakness that biden would want to keep friends. i mean, it's not just a matter of being at the coronation, although, of course, it's also course, important, but it's also a chance for to talk with, you know, all of the other heads of states that are going to be there. hmm i mean, look, paul ball, i absolutely. your point about historical and that will have been very important to you when you served the family and diana princess of wales. however, it would be a great honour to the king if the president were to appear . and president were to appear. and that's the point, isn't it? he hasn't that opportunity to pay his respects to our new monarch a significant moment. we might only have two coronations this century . and i wonder whether century. and i wonder whether it's something of a diplomatic sleight on the british people as well . i sleight on the british people as well. i know sleight on the british people as well . i know i sleight on the british people as well. i know i agree sleight on the british people as well . i know i agree with in the well. i know i agree with in the fact that he should be there. i do. and if donald trump was still president . yes, he would

still president. yes, he would be there because admired the royal family. he admired our late queen and he loved the british constitution. so i agree that he's going miss out on the show of the decade and he's not going to see that or witness it personally. and that is a great sadness. but i don't i really believe that this is going to cause a huge rift between britain and america . we are britain and america. we are strong allies that been sufficient. and despite what's i do honestly think that we are friends and great nations who who work together despite who the president is because the president will change four years time the king won't . and as the time the king won't. and as the queen always said , prime queen always said, prime ministers, you be here for four or maybe eight years. i'm here for the rest of my life. and the king will be there for the rest of his life, and he will see another president, too, in his reign . so presidents come and reign. so presidents come and go. kings and queens don't . is

go. kings and queens don't. is the elephant in the room . joe the elephant in the room. joe biden is too frail to travel. i think could possibly be the case. yes people seeing him fall up or down the steps of air force one. but you know , part of force one. but you know, part of it is, is it really perhaps that he's being influenced certainly by obama and perhaps by, you know, harry and, meghan, this whole idea that biden is showing his support is that he is also against the monarchy , you know, against the monarchy, you know, because because she should be the and of slavery and i mean , i the and of slavery and i mean, i don't of course, go along with that but it seems like he might be virtue signalling for his constituents so you think he's taking sides potentially with harry and meghan by not appearing the coronation ? obama appearing the coronation? obama and obama . obama is really obama

and obama. obama is really obama is the one who pulls his strings altogether . and so i is the one who pulls his strings altogether. and so i think this could well another another string pulling by obama . string pulling by obama. briefly, carole, how long. that's a very interesting comment . yeah, go on, paul . comment. yeah, go on, paul. respond that's a very interesting comment to think the president of united states would be siding with harry and meghan when the king has sent invitations to, harry and meghan, he's taking the moral high ground. he's actually given them the chance to say yes or no, whether they come to the coronation. i personally think that meghan will not come to the coronation. she will stay behind in california to look after the children. i do that. harry will come to the to support his family . after all, it makes him family. after all, it makes him relevant because he has to be relevant because he has to be relevant and attached to the royal family to continue his brand because the brand of being royal what is there left . paul, royal what is there left. paul, do you think it's appropriate

that just harry attends the coronation or do you think the couple, harry and meghan, should be there. what's what's the right thing do in your estimation ? what is the right estimation? what is the right thing to do to brave it and show solidarity together and come together? but of course, that's going to be addressed full experience for both of them . experience for both of them. having written this book spare having said what they've said over the past few years and pushed most of the family members under the first, so they're going to have sit and grin and bear it in in abbey the king's coronation and i don't think that meghan's going to do that. i think she's got to find easy excuse to get out of this by saying, oh, it's archie's birthday. so i've got to stay behind in california and have a birthday party rather than go the coronation. and now going to get in trouble with producer maria. i've got one more for carole and one more for paul, because we have such a high calibre of guest tonight's show. carole, how long do you think

joe biden can carry on before he keels over ? his people are keels over? his people are talking about another four years. i do not think he's going to make it for another four years. as i've said on show. yeah. and been saying even before he as he was running for president he has dementia and it was a mistake to vote him in to begin with. and i just want to say i agree with the idea that if that harry and meghan, if they don't come, that they will they don't come, that they will they won't be relevant anymore . they won't be relevant anymore. and that's why i think that actually both of them come. actually both of them will come. but i think it's really a shame for the king that they will take too much attention away from him . now, paul. last but not least , can i say you look the picture of health we always love having you on the show and really you on the show and i'm really pleased that got good in you on the show and i'm really pleaseofthat got good in you on the show and i'm really pleaseof your got good in you on the show and i'm really pleaseof your awful got good in you on the show and i'm really pleaseof your awful cancer)d in terms of your awful cancer diagnosis. so you able to tell me where you're at with health? yes, i'm finished now with my cancer and my radiotherapy . and cancer and my radiotherapy. and i'm taking a break on world

coast with my husband . it's been coast with my husband. it's been a rollercoaster to ride. i had to wait six months now to find i'm all clear, but i'm feeling good. but we'll wait and see. fingers crossed. you look brilliant . i fingers crossed. you look brilliant. i think you're feeling well enough to possibly brave another in the jungle. is that right ? ah well, you see, that right? ah well, you see, it's already recorded . it's in it's already recorded. it's in the can. we went last september to south africa to record i'm a celebrity get me out of here legends . and you will see all legends. and you will see all those familiar faces doing what they did the first time round. i was in 2004. a very long time ago . i'm an older guy this time, ago. i'm an older guy this time, so let's see what happens to me this time round. we wish you well, in your recovery, we look forward to watching the show. thank so much, paul burrow and my deep thanks to america's psychiatrist. the and only the inimitable dr. carole lieberman who , let me tell you, is on

who, let me tell you, is on twitter. she's got her website well worth a look . thank you, well worth a look. thank you, folks. your reaction please market gb news dot coming up with , the pundits, all suella with, the pundits, all suella braverman racist. are we addicted the internet and is it wrong to works of the past ? see wrong to works of the past? see you into .

it. does joe biden hate britain 7 it. does joe biden hate britain ? christopher hi, mark. biden turned late for the queen's funeral, then moaned sitting at the back to the old. was it? i can't make the rest of it out. let's not forget that he was very rude to the queen so there you go. okay. he wouldn't know he was there anyway, is what chris also said. joe's an invitation. you do know her majesty had no for king a reason. thank you for that. we'll those emails coming market gb news dot uk reacting to the big stories of the day historian and political commentator

oldroyd bolt, journalist and political emma burnell and ex—tory mp and former. in fact he's got quite a few herefords . he's got quite a few herefords. it's neil parish , i've got to it's neil parish, i've got to tell you. it'sjust. last time tell you. it's just. last time he was on, he said, i've got a bunch of herefords. i didn't know if you so cows or women. turns out it was all three. now suella braverman today insisted rwanda , is a safe place to send rwanda, is a safe place to send migrants. the home secretary defended the government's plans to send those who come to britain illegally on a one way ticket to the african nation. despite being challenged over 2018 incident in which there's evidence 12 congolese refugees were shot dead by police when presented with the evidence on the bbc sunday show with laura kuenssberg . the home secretary kuenssberg. the home secretary said she was not familiar with the case so with criticism in some quarters , the government's some quarters, the government's stop the boats strategy , all stop the boats strategy, all suella braverman policies . suella braverman policies. racist. david i don't think they're racist. i think that's slightly odd. why is it that the rwandans deserve our cast—offs and these people should be sent

back to the countries from which they originated? slightly odd that the home secretary was not aware of the case referred to in rwanda. it appears, was rwanda. as it appears, it was actually homes. the home actually used in homes. the home office, briefing document actually used in homes. the home office,theyriefing document actually used in homes. the home office,the problems cument actually used in homes. the home office,the problems withent actually used in homes. the home office,the problems with the about the problems with the surrender strategy and i think an overriding problem surrender strategy and i think arthatrriding problem surrender strategy and i think arthat the ng problem surrender strategy and i think arthat the absolute problem surrender strategy and i think arthat the absolute necessityn is that the absolute necessity of controlling our borders and of controlling our borders and of keeping out illegal immigrants made to look ridiculous by this scheme . and ridiculous by this scheme. and it gives all of the opponents we have who wish to have open borders, who don't care a about whether or not we have migrants coming over the border legally or illegally can use this as easy ammunition . so i think it's easy ammunition. so i think it's politically rather. it's diplomatically probably not the easiest sell in the world for the of the world. and it's the rest of the world. and it's just not good common sense just not very good common sense . so you think the rwanda plan is government? is an own by the government? yes, i do. what do you yes, i do. i do. what do you think, neil? would you have supported if you were in the supported it if you were in the commons i would begin commons still? i i would begin to with it actually, to struggle with it actually, because i think it's done . it's because i think it's done. it's one of these things it's done as a to a deterrent basically and to say to trying to, you know,

to those trying to, you know, pay to those trying to, you know, pay to get in a boat pay a fortune to get in a boat and risk their lives coming across, don't do it because you're going to sent to you're going to be sent to rwanda. think the problem rwanda. but i think the problem is that legally, it's is that legally, i think it's never going to never probably ever going to happen. i think there's going to be cases . and i be so many court cases. and i think that's the problem with it. so therefore, it was done in the the best of intentions the with the best of intentions in ways. if you actually in some ways. if you actually want stop coming want to stop people coming across. in reality, across. but i think in reality, it's to be difficult it's going to be difficult to implement and. however, is the rwanda plan not messaging? and what would say the many what would you say the many thousands people watching or thousands of people watching or listening this programme listening to this programme back? the policy ? i understand back? the policy? i understand people want this policy to work. the problem is they're going to be even further. let and that's not going to make them feel better about either the government's migration or the way that we tackle migration as a whole. i think the racism question is a red herring . what question is a red herring. what the policy very deliberately is cruel. the point is that

deterrent . so you have to make deterrent. so you have to make it nasty to you have to make it feel worse to here than not. and people listening would say bring it on. and that is their political. it's not where i stand . do not believe in open stand. do not believe in open borders . i do believe in what if borders. i do believe in what if they don't have a case? be here or don't have a case here, then they should be sent back. but there are places we cannot send back to and that that to be deau back to and that that to be dealt with within the structures that we have signed up to under international and domestic law. and we need to be have a humane but workable policy. the problem with this policy , it's neither. with this policy, it's neither. and it will fall down either on if you support its principles, it falls down on the practicalities . and if you don't practicalities. and if you don't support its principles, it falls on first looking. you we can't even repatriate them back to europe. i mean, we haven't got an agreement to do that and i don't think we ever will. and so therefore, you know, i mean, if therefore, you know, i mean, if the case is we've seen it on the gb news of six, seven years and

people haven't processed. and so you do have to question in a lot of these it's put into the you can run the scheme we're actually put in to actually make sure that we can work out whether they should be to stay or not and then not be kept in hotels and, what have you. surely that's got to be and i think, you know, this is where government is going to get it. so it's a it's a soundbite. if they're not all careful, that will come back to bite them and what think will happen coming what i think will happen coming back bite you on the back of back and bite you on the southern classic gone the wind is to come with a trigger warning amid concerns over its depiction of 19 century slavery . in margaret margaret mitchell's novel set in georgia dunng mitchell's novel set in georgia during the american civil war has a favourite for has been a favourite for generations its generations of lovers since its publication in 36. it was memorably brought to the silver screen in 1939, starring vivien leigh as the southern belle scarlett o'hara and clark gable as rhett . but publisher pan as rhett. but publisher pan macmillan has now decided that readers could find racist aspects of the era or indeed

harmful so it wrong to censor works of the past. is there any problem ? a little warning at the problem? a little warning at the beginning of the book, david no, i think we have to take this in the broad history of literature , particularly literature from a long time ago, representing views a, let's say views that a, let's say unfashionable or in some downright offensive that are always introductions. you always been introductions. you can into any bookshop, pick can go into any bookshop, pick up a work of aeschylus or homer or virgil or anything from the say, but catch it from the 15th 16th century. they will always with an introduction that puts in things which in context those things which are longer are not always no longer accessible human. however, however not be any however they not be any censorship, of course there should no rewriting . and then should be no rewriting. and then we don't need sticker on. the we don't need a sticker on. the front of the book that says, be careful, offend you. careful, this might offend you. actually, sometimes good actually, it's sometimes good for people be and for people to be offended and challenged by they read, it challenged by what they read, it makes about how they makes them think about how they respond now, as well respond to things. now, as well as past. so as how they view the past. so this an introduction that this is an introduction that says, know, this, this was says, you know, this, this was the antebellum america. the case in antebellum america. this appalling state this was the appalling state of slavery. if start slavery. brilliant. if start trying to excise passages or

stick something the front stick something on the front saying pg 15 until saying sort of pg 15 until children don't read it'll give you nightmares wrong where you. well do is rewrite well what we can do is rewrite and seems what we want and this it seems what we want to do therefore let's to do and therefore let's actually discuss history let's discuss these books and you know slavery was terrible . we all slavery was terrible. we all accept that. but, you know by actually trying to take words , actually trying to take words, we don't actually discuss it enough. do so what are we doing? you know, i think we're not actually helping the but about actually helping the but about actually putting that right. i think it is making it but they're not taking any words . they're not taking any words. they're putting some words on the of contextualise the front of contextualise treating like nuts that treating us like nuts that children will be debt pay college and they should . i'm not college and they should. i'm not saying they shouldn't but why i never to read gone with the wind. we want them twice, but it's too long. but we've got to read the books without trigger warnings. why we so pathetic warnings. why are we so pathetic that them now? what's that we need them now? what's changed? nothing change. changed? there's nothing change. but absolutely be but i would absolutely be barricades with you to stop it being censored. that is not what i don't like. the patronising

trigger i think trigger warning. i think it's the wedge. but look, the thin of the wedge. but look, emma's entitled to her view. that's why we love having her on the show. what's yours? gbnews.uk. up next, is a gbnews.uk. coming up next, is a labour government inevitable? gbnews.uk. coming up next, is a labour gmark�*nent inevitable? gbnews.uk. coming up next, is a labour gmark�*nent inguestle? gbnews.uk. coming up next, is a labour gmark�*nent inguest is’ gbnews.uk. coming up next, is a labour gmark�*nent inguest is the now my mark means guest is the iconic journalist iconic columnist and journalist polly toynbee. go anywhere polly toynbee. don't go anywhere anywhere

it's time now for. mark mates. and tonight, one of the most respected and experienced of her generation , polly toynbee, the generation, polly toynbee, the former social editor of the bbc and current guardian columnist. she's also a bestselling author . and her latest book, an uneasy inheritance my family and other radicals . yes i think we might radicals. yes i think we might have a still of the book if we cannot fire that one up. it's out in june. i look forward to discussing it with, polly. on, on and uneasy inheritance.

toynbee welcome to mark dolan tonight . hello. we must get to tonight. hello. we must get to the book and actually your background , a journalist and background, a journalist and your life story. but i know you're not delighted with current government. do you think a labour government is now inevitable ? i think almost inevitable? i think almost inevitable? i think almost inevitable mean it could be a government with a huge majority or maybe a government with a small majority that have to work and some form of coalition. i think it's inconceivable that this could get back this government could get back with a majority to govern . i with a majority to govern. i think we haven't got the historic precedent of john major and his surprise victory in 92. you don't think that shares in rishi sunak are perhaps a little too low at the moment ? not too low at the moment? not really. i mean, i think we've you know, i've lived through failure after, failure of labour governments, disappointment after disappointment election after disappointment election after , election. so i you know, after, election. so i you know, i know that that's what very often over two thirds of my lifetime is be governed by conservative governments. but think this time it's impossible the next two years. people's

incomes are going to drop by 6. and in the it's the economy, stupid and really will feel it in their pocket. this has never happened before. you work constructively critical of new laboun constructively critical of new labour, but you did describe them as the best government of your political lifetime. does starmer have to become tony blair to win ? i don't think blair to win? i don't think anybody can be blair. starmer is starmer . has anybody can be blair. starmer is starmer. has he got blair's class ? i don't know what you class? i don't know what you mean. his craft just the x factor, as they say . has he as factor, as they say. has he as you? he is he is he at tony blair level charisma all rest of it. no, he's not. he's something quite different. he's very he's , very solid. a lawyer. , very solid. he's a lawyer. he's run an important department as chief prosecutor after he has different kind of experience. i think he has less political experience. i think he's less agile politically. i think that's true . but on the other that's true. but on the other hand, people are getting a bit wary of the politically agile and maybe being a solid is a good thing. yes. with sunak and starmer, we're in a grey era of politics. only well, we've just

beenin politics. only well, we've just been in such an exotic upside down, turbulent era , i don't down, turbulent era, i don't think anybody's going to match up to boris johnson and liz truss , perhaps it's more like truss, perhaps it's more like the theresa may possibly so . now the theresa may possibly so. now keir starmer this weekend has told an interview i think it was with the that 99.9% of women don't have a penis with he will hit his hitherto difficulties in defining woman be a factor at the next election do you think. i don't think very much so. i i think the conservatives are looking around for every single issue they can have, which not about the economy, know they'll look any kind woke tree, look for any kind of woke tree, any of trumped up little any kind of trumped up little something over another as a something over another as a something to talk about, talking. but in the end , what's talking. but in the end, what's going to cut is going to be pubuc going to cut is going to be public services and the money in people's pockets and the blow that they've had to their wages due to inflation and all low inflation come down. there's still going to be paying out a

lot more than they're getting in in terms of wage is going to be a gap. so i think that's what really matters. and as for the question about what's a i think you said it very well. i think it makes sense. it's a small issue you're not a transphobe for you stand up for the for saying you stand up for the rights people, but, you know, rights of people, but, you know, most women are born women don't have penises. but it most women are born women don't have penises . but it doesn't have penises. but it doesn't mean that other people can't be women to have if that's what they want to be. do you not share the views of politics? politics, professor at the university kent? matthew who university of kent? matthew who has these has suggested that these so—called wars could a big so—called wars could be a big factor, particularly in the red wall seats in the north of england, where might be england, where voters might be labour tradition, labour supporting by tradition, but socially but are also socially conservative. well, what's interesting is the trans issue has no salience, whatever . and has. no salience, whatever. and then when ipsos mori does , it's then when ipsos mori does, it's regular. what's the most important issue? it is just nowhere . i mean, you can steer nowhere. i mean, you can steer people up for a bit when you stop and ask them what, you stop and ask them what, do you really politics now? really think about politics now? they nhs. they they think about the nhs. they think about social care. they

about schools. and they think about schools. and they think about how the wages have fallen behind. and what about the channel migrant crisis? do you think it was a mistake? starmer not to at least include it in his top five priority is because there are those red wall constituencies are concerned, aren't they, about illegal in this country? oh, i think everybody across the world and, you know, places which have got much worse immigrant than italy. it a real problem because lot it is a real problem because lot of people in the world are on the move because of climate, 100 million potentially. yes. and very alarming for every government . and that, you know , government. and that, you know, in that sense, we're lucky in this country that we've had many fewer than france than italy and germany than greece. so make a huge fuss about it. but we put it in some context that everybody is struggling with this and we have a lesser problem, not a greater problem. you'd think the way our newspapers talk about it on the right that we were the worst in the world. that's just not the case.i the world. that's just not the case. i think, know, case. i think, you know, controlling your borders is a

prime any government, prime duty of any government, but it's really hard to do. it's like saying controlling crime is a can't promise a prime duty. you can't promise i'm to have a crime free government. but do you not think labour need to own it, given the fact that they need to win the red wall? it is seven, six, £7 million a day in hotels.com station. people the station. 50,000 people at the moment hotels . it's not moment in hotels. it's not sustainable, is it? no it's a real problem. you can't say it's not not sustain . actually, we not not sustain. actually, we can. we can those people. but it's expensive it's unpopular. people want to know who's coming in. they want to choose who comes in, which is very reasonable. but it doesn't mean on an island like this that you can necessarily protect your every inch of your shores, all the time against people arriving in boats. it is a real problem and i think labour's right to say the government's made an awful mess of it. i mean, what are they doing processing are they doing not processing people one, three people for one, two, three years? we need to process them, we to get them jobs , they we need to get them jobs, they want work and we have loads want to work and we have loads jobs. it's absolutely mad to

people in hotels when they could be working, you know , living be working, you know, living their own lives. i if we haven't got a way of sending them back and i think rwanda is going to work if they send a few work even if they send a few there is not going to solve whole problem. we've got to find a way letting them work where we need and speaking of work need them. and speaking of work , with politics. you , you flirted with politics. you stood for the sdp in 1983. i think came third, which is decent . then it was the east, decent. then it was the east, lewisham east. lewisham. i got it exactly the same as. everybody got in the sdp . it was everybody got in the sdp. it was about 10,000 votes or something. it's not the career that got away. no, it's not. i mean, i was not the or worse. the thing is that individuals only little difference in terms to imagine that are they're being chosen personally but you're not and the sdp didn't manage to make that great breakthrough in 1983 that great breakthrough in 1983 that it looked as if it might have done well. we had thatcher on one side very unpopular until the falklands war michael foot on the other side very unpopular

the far and the really to the far left and the really to be a need for something in the middle but i'm there our electoral system in the end people vote against the person they fear most they either fear thatcher or they feared michael foot most and they didn't dare vote for something else. and until we have a proportional representation system. it's the fate of . you know you're you're fate of. you know you're you're nigel farage. you if you comes and never get through it's impossible . do you think if impossible. do you think if starmer achieves briefly, if he can, an overall majority see that he should introduce legislate for peel. i wish he would. i don't think i don't keep planning. don't vote for christmas. if he gets a majority, then not. this proves the argument. i don't just think it's that i think it's because it's that i think it's because it would take an awful lot of a lot time and he's got a lot lot of time and he's got a lot of things to do. and these big, great, big constitutional questions just too much questions just absorb too much political energy. i suspect i agree. we're probably a couple of hung away from that becoming a reality . i suspect it's going

a reality. i suspect it's going to happen . toynbee thrill to to happen. toynbee a thrill to have the studio. please have you in the studio. please back and see you soon, especially out. especially when that book out. my toynbee, a my thanks to polly toynbee, a very guest to mark dolan very welcome guest to mark dolan . reaction what she's . your reaction to what she's had coming up. it might had to say coming up. it might take turn time to no to a take a turn time to say no to a cashless . see you .

in three. it's 10:00. and in three. it's10:00. and this is mark it's 10:00. and this is mark tonight in my take it in just a moment, the move to a cashless society is a direct assault on people power. i'm not having it. cash is king my newsmaker and welcome discusses the new brexit trade . is it a welcome discusses the new brexit trade. is it a game welcome discusses the new brexit trade . is it a game changer for trade. is it a game changer for this country and for you and me also? all those delays, dover really due to brexit plus the papers with full punditry , big papers with full punditry, big guests, big stories , big guests, big stories, big opinions, a lively hour to come.

the horror of a castle society next. but first, the headlines with a very well—heeled aaron armstrong . thank you very much armstrong. thank you very much indeed, mark yes, hello there. welcome to gb news as from me, i would armstrong, a prominent russian military blogger has been killed in an explosion at a cafe in st petersburg . vlad cafe in st petersburg. vlad lenta task was vocal supporter of russia's war, ukraine. he had more than half million followers on telegram the incident. appears to be the assassination on russian of a figure closely associated the conflict. at least 25 people were also injured . no one has yet claimed injured. no one has yet claimed responsibility for the blast . responsibility for the blast. the home secretary has blamed political correctness for the failure to tackle grooming gangs, writing the mail on sunday, suella braverman says , sunday, suella braverman says, have turned a blind eye over fears of being labelled racist, bigoted. and she singled out

british—pakistani men for particular concern she pledged to put people working with children in england under a new legal duty to report signs or suspicion of sexual abuse. the safeguarding minister, sarah dines says it's a scourge of our society we can't stop in making sure that people are protected children are the most vulnerable part of our society . well, as part of our society. well, as the elderly, we must make sure they're not sexually abused. so i don't accept we're going to be rife with false reports. that may be one or two, and they will deau may be one or two, and they will dealt with in identified the overwhelming that overwhelming people that gave evidence are speaking truth evidence are speaking the truth to inquiry . and it was very to the inquiry. and it was very heartbreaking testimony . we need heartbreaking testimony. we need to holidaymakers hoping to to act holidaymakers hoping to cross the channel are still experiencing long delays at the port of dover, which are likely go through the night. some people have been waiting around 8 hours or more. it's understood all coaches finally reached the port, but still face further few hours waiting to have their passports checked . officials

passports checked. officials there have blamed delays , a there have blamed delays, a lengthy immigration process , but lengthy immigration process, but suella braverman has rejected suggestions brexit is responsible . the families of two responsible. the families of two british man being detained in afghanistan by the taliban say they're being treated fairly after speaking to them in. an unscripted emotional call . a unscripted emotional call. a spokesman for kevin coldwell. and a second unnamed man says it represents tremendous progress . represents tremendous progress. they've been in custody since january . it is they've been in custody since january. it is unclear, though, how long. the third man, the so—called danger , myles so—called danger, myles routledge, has held by the taliban. the government says it's in negotiations regarding safety . 29 people are now known safety. 29 people are now known to have died after a series of torn adults swept through the united states over the weekend. officials say more than 40 reports were made across seven states in the south, in the midwest of country on friday. homes have been destroyed and cars upended . an entire school cars upended. an entire school in arkansas was ripped apart with students and teachers

saying . they are grateful to saying. they are grateful to have been inside. president joe biden has declared a major disaster in that state and he's ordered federal support to help with the recovery . t tv online with the recovery. t tv online debate plus and on tune in. this is gb news. now it's back to mark. he's rolling in his. my thanks to aaron armstrong. he's back an hour. welcome to mark dolan tonight nights. tonight's newsmaker is , ann tonight's newsmaker is, ann widdecombe, who tells me whether that bumper new trans—pacific trade deal is a game changer for britain. and all those delays , britain. and all those delays, dover really down to brexit. and as always has the answers we've the papers at 1030 sharp with full pundit reaction . and i'll full pundit reaction. and i'll be asking my pundits later in the show, should celebrities stay out of politics? how often

should you clean your carpets . should you clean your carpets. oh, the big questions. should you clean your carpets. oh, the big questions . lots of oh, the big questions. lots of stories to get through. big guests and, always big opinions. a massive hour to come. we start with my . take ten. there's an with my. take ten. there's an old saying cash is king never that been truer in 2023 as governments and corporate actions encourage to us stop using cash notes and coin . new using cash notes and coin. new research from link the cash machine people published in the daily mail shows that more than half of the public have had their cash rejected by retailers or being discouraged from using it in recent weeks. the dash towards a cashless society is affecting huge numbers of shoppers want to make purchases with coins and notes. people are now struggle to get pounds and pennies accepted restaurants and cafes and whilst paying for parking . you've got to use those parking. you've got to use those terrible apps. parking. you've got to use those terrible apps . your phone back

terrible apps. your phone back to me, folks. now for some tapping your credit card on a machine or waiving your phone may, be quick and convenient, but the technology comes with huge risks . take a look at huge risks. take a look at nigeria , for example, africa's nigeria, for example, africa's most popular country, which is seeking to limit the amounts of money can withdraw each day . the money can withdraw each day. the central bank of nigeria hopes to cap withdrawals , atms, banks and cap withdrawals, atms, banks and cash bank purchases at around £30 a day. that's according to the associated the associated press. now, they're partly doing this because they're facing a cash flow crisis, but partly because they're seeking to transition to a cashless economy, terrify him. in my view, this is part of a wider campaign at government and corporate level to kill , kill corporate level to kill, kill cash altogether and potentially in time transfer , all of us to in time transfer, all of us to a digital programmable currency controlled the states. as with pandemic measures, the push for a cashless society is an attack

on people power. if you have cash, you'll spending habits cannot be traced and your funds cannot be traced and your funds cannot be traced and your funds cannot be frozen in the way. of course that. they can with a digital currency . don't forget digital currency. don't forget that tinpot dictator justin trudeau , canada's tyrannical who trudeau, canada's tyrannical who froze the bank of protesting vaccine mandate truckers . well, vaccine mandate truckers. well, he couldn't have done that with in terms of a cashless society . in terms of a cashless society. all roads lead to china . it's all roads lead to china. it's the worst case scenario , the the worst case scenario, the thick end of the wedge. chinese citizens are part of what's called a social credit system in which people's money is controlled digitally by the governments . they've got virtual governments. they've got virtual cash in their virtual bank accounts , access to which is accounts, access to which is unked accounts, access to which is linked to good behaviour . and linked to good behaviour. and with facial recognition cameras , the chinese public can lose access to their for money most minor indiscretion . if someone minor indiscretion. if someone is spotted littering or walking home drunk , not being up to date

home drunk, not being up to date with their vaccines, or guilty of some other perceived crime. this fully digitised system will punish them immediately by stopping them paying for goods in the supermarket or from a train ticket. the stuff of nightmares with a cashless society , the control is society, the control is transferred from the people to corporations and the states and into society. can you give your nephew a tenner for that birthday? leave a couple of pound coins for that or waitress that served you so nicely. how can you help out a homeless person that needs a few quid to get by. they don't have machines . what about the wonderful informal ality of a retired pensioner cleaning your windows or , doing a bit of gardening and or, doing a bit of gardening and receiving a crisp £20 note as a thank you . a cashless society thank you. a cashless society will spell the end of the informal discretionary economy . informal discretionary economy. cash is human. cashless is . in

cash is human. cashless is. in come rain or shine. if you've got cash on you, you're secure. if we allow a cashless society happen that could spell the end of your financial autonomy . of your financial autonomy. don't believe me? well, ask canadian truckers or the children's pressure group. ask them all the free speech union, both of whose funds were blocked by paypal. their great crime being critical of covid measures. welcome to cash is in king always has been . will be. king always has been. will be. beware outlets offering the snake convenience of cashless and fight this at every turn. it's time to put your money where your mouth is or of . wall where your mouth is or of. wall flexible friend . i'll be on them flexible friend. i'll be on them to the phone for now. let's get that replaced tomorrow. but

there you go. let's get reaction now to this from currency . leah now to this from currency. leah halpin , who is the author of the halpin, who is the author of the best selling book undressing bitcoin. she's also the star of the popular leah show on youtube . hi, welcome to the show . the popular leah show on youtube . hi, welcome to the show. hi. great to be here. thank you so much for having me. great have you back on the program . have you back on the program. have i overstated the threat our freedoms of a cashless society ? freedoms of a cashless society? no. i think you stated it perfectly . you know, you say you perfectly. you know, you say you think this part of a greater campaign to move us onto central bank digital currency and i agree with you, you're absolutely right, because right now we're living through many different crisis agendas . different woke crisis agendas. well, you know, we've gone from covid went on to the climate crisis, whatever it is , and they crisis, whatever it is, and they need people to comply with their agenda during . covid, i believe agenda during. covid, i believe they overstepped their mark. people had enough. they people have had enough. they won't that anymore. but won't take that anymore. but need people to stop complying. and do they do that? they do and how do they do that? they do that with the money because once

you you you control the money, you control the world. and like you said, money be said, that money be programmable. now programmable. and so now they want to tracking our want us to start tracking our carbon. they want to implement some of carbon allowance. some sort of carbon allowance. and you that with the and how do you do that with the money program money. money you program the money. so mark, to have a mark, say you want to have a barbecue. the summer finally comes and you know you comes in the uk and you know you want buy some, some meat, want to buy some, some meat, whatever it is, you could actually reach your carbon allowance the next week allowance so that the next week when fill up your car when you go to fill up your car with will gets with gas will money gets declined because reached declined because you reached your it your carbon allowance so it essentially allows and essentially allows you and allows control every allows them to control every little thing that we do . and it little thing that we do. and it is so concerning because money money is really just the energy which fuels life. if you which fuels life. so if you don't control your money, don't have control your money, well, you never have control anything. this a bit of anything. isn't this a bit of a conspiracy theory , although it conspiracy theory, although it might happen in china but not in a free country like . britain or a free country like. britain or the united states . you know, the united states. you know, it's so funny when people say that because right now the west copy everything that china does, they admire it. copy everything that china does, they admire it . justin trudeau they admire it. justin trudeau talks about china as if it's

this incredible country and how he really values everything. china does we copied that covid response and we are copying that cbd response. we saw it with rishi sunak so excited. bob klein right . rishi sunak so excited. bob klein right. ninth more than 90% of world banks are all working towards a cbd and actually one of the biggest issues it is the lack of privacy because . like lack of privacy because. like you said, you know, if you say the wrong thing or you like the wrong thing on social media, they will know that it's you. they will be to control your money and switch it off. is money and switch it off. this is why i'm a huge advocate for not only bitcoin, but try the see coins, privacy coins where it's entirely anonymous. also you entirely anonymous. and also you can many can it and there are many different on this different people working on this whether somebody like todd minette building a minette who are building a decentralised internet, there was , a decentralised was a building, a decentralised privacy and these sorts of privacy coin and these sorts of things, bitcoin and coins i look at as the solution and to a cbd city. okay and i hear you've got those options. but do you think that actually a cashless society is inevitable and it will be

replaced by? things like bitcoin , these other solutions? do you think that cash will be a thing of the past ? unfortunately do of the past? unfortunately do think cash will be a thing of the past? and i know you did say cash is king i don't think necessarily it has to be a bad thing when we do have solutions like bitcoin and like privacy. these things, these things are inevitable. in inevitable. we are living in a new digital world right now where are doing business where people are doing business with globally, global with people globally, global trade. we desperately do trade. and so we desperately do an alternative actually cater an alternative to actually cater for this new digital world, whether you like cash not, whether you like cash or not, i do think it will be thing the do think it will be a thing the past. as long as do past. but as long as we do things like bitcoin and privacy coins call me a building, coins like call me a building, then we will be then i think we will be protected to a greater extent . protected to a greater extent. my thanks to leah halpern , who my thanks to leah halpern, who is the star of the leah halpern on youtube. she's got a huge number of subscribers do go on youtube and find out why she's on twitter . well, i've been on twitter. well, i've been asking you , our viewers and asking you, our viewers and listeners, whether you are happy to in cashless society. to live in a cashless society. well, results are in 15% say

well, the results are in 15% say yes. 15.8. that is 84.2% say no . so a resounding landslide made for keeping cash . we got the for keeping cash. we got the papers at 1030 sharp with full pundh papers at 1030 sharp with full pundit reaction. but next, my niece, her the iconic ann widdecombe, discuss whether britain's new trans—pacific trade deal is a game for britain and is that congestion in dover really down to brexit? and when it comes next

next oh my goodness, says ian. are you sure that britain's a free country the government want to force cows to stop farting? yeah. we'll be talking about that later with neil ex tory mp and now the government are going to give these cows all sorts of weird produce to stop them belching and doing all sorts of other methane related things on

the cashless society. this richard mark, the government is pushing us towards a cashless society . i'm not having it. society. i'm not having it. i want change. there you go. well it's about personal autonomy, isn't it? something that clearly disappeared during the pandemic. lots to get through. we've got the papers at exactly 1030 sharp with full pundit reaction . but with full pundit reaction. but it's with full pundit reaction. but wsfime with full pundit reaction. but it's time now for the newsmaker in which we tackle a big story of the day in the company of . a of the day in the company of. a fearless commentator. tonight's the government has signed off on a trade deal comprising 11 nafions a trade deal comprising 11 nations around the pacific rim, including japan, canada , including japan, canada, australia and new zealand . our australia and new zealand. our own liam halligan points out in the telegraph this weekend that the telegraph this weekend that the so—called rcep is a trade agreement between countries accounting for 13% of global commerce . the uk joining that commerce. the uk joining that rises to over 15. the same as the 27 nations in the eu . put

the 27 nations in the eu. put that in your pipe and smoke . so that in your pipe and smoke. so is this a game changer for britain to tackle these topics and many more. i'm delighted to welcome former minister bestselling author and television personality and. and is this deal news for britain ? is this deal news for britain? oh, it's hugely good for britain. something we couldn't have done while were in the eu. one of the things we said we wanted do when we left the eu set up our own trade agreements . this is this a really major achievement because with all the big players like australia and canada , singapore and what we canada, singapore and what we have to do tariff free trade with those massive economies . so with those massive economies. so it's a huge, huge step in the right direction and could not have done it without brexit. and thatis have done it without brexit. and that is the point that we need to make all the time. every time we achieve something because of brexit, we pay down. any time something goes wrong with want to blame on brexit, it's paid .

to blame on brexit, it's paid. now this fortunately , has got now this fortunately, has got the headlines. i think even the bbc go and ignore this one. you know, this is a big plus benefit of brexit and it opens up a whole set of new economies are a free trade makes us part of a massive trading bloc and without all the rules and subjugation that came with the eu . not that came with the eu. not surprising. and so many sore loser remainers have been giving deal short shrift , including in deal short shrift, including in the media. yes. i mean, it's not surprising at all. the remainers got over their defeat. they still have hopes of rejoining , still have hopes of rejoining, but that is a long way down the track. what they're trying to do is stage five stages simply to get this nearer to the eu when something like this happens, it takes further from the eu. they don't, of course, like it, but it's one of the things that britain was promised and if we leave eu, be able to

leave the eu, we'll be able to set up trade deals and everybody said, oh yes, you know, you'll get a little deal here and a little deal going to get something like the something really big like the eu. something better eu. we've got something better than eu critics have said than the eu critics have said and that it could only add 0.08% to our gdp , our gross domestic to our gdp, our gross domestic product . and this pales in product. and this pales in comparison with the 4, the economy will lose as a result of brexit. your reaction , those brexit. your reaction, those figures? well, my reaction to those figures is that we're still adding more than we're losing on that . actually, this losing on that. actually, this is a game for the medium and the long term. it's not something that tomorrow we're suddenly going to see, you know, vast quantities of wealth. but what we are going to see is hugely trade opportunities with i say, freedom from the fta focusing law that came with eu trade deals is not only about figures, it's about freedom . yes, because it's about freedom. yes, because we get free trade, but no loss .

we get free trade, but no loss. sovereignty exactly. that sums it up. yes you've summed it up admirably . well, that's you admirably. well, that's you know, there's a first time for everything . can i also say that everything. can i also say that i think credit is due to liam fox and to liz truss for getting the ball rolling on this one and of course, kathy bates not for closing the deal. yes, very much so. liz truss, you really did start this one going and did all that she could while she was getting all the trade deals. you know, she wasn't just with this one. so i think huge credit. and to those of us who've been involved to liam simon. yes, involved and to liam simon. yes, that's absolutely but that's absolutely proof. and but all it's because of brexit. we couldn't have done it without brexit not you know, in many ways we haven't got brexit. we haven't yet taken full advantage of brexit. but this today is exactly what we were hoping for. however it's time to throw a spannerin however it's time to throw a spanner in the works because was not rishi sunak's much maligned

framework which unlocked deal . i framework which unlocked deal. i don't think you can say that the winds of framework unlocked this has been worked on for a very , has been worked on for a very, very long time and the details would not have all been thrashed out in the very short period of time we've had since the windsor framework on the windsor framework on the windsor framework trade northern ireland that imperils the union. it keeps a part of . the uk under eu keeps a part of. the uk under eu law , which has of course law, which has of course a ratchet effect on the rest of the uk. so no, i'm not to be seduced into saying, oh , this is seduced into saying, oh, this is all due to the windsor framework. this due to a lot of awfully hard work that's been going on for several years on the part of government and it's just civil servants, trade experts and all the countries involved . of course it is just involved. of course it is just not just britain. this is a tremendous this is a tremendous step board. and of course, this agreement is another barrier to entry, to rejoining the eu,

which would be a democratic travesty. it's an insurance policy against against going back into the arms of the. can i ask you, though and i appreciate your positive tone on. this one. i'm delighted to. and i got dog's abuse on this show on friday for being very enthusiastic about this this new agreement . but why does it agreement. but why does it matter to my viewers and listeners . well it matters listeners. well it matters because it means that we can as i say, we get out of free trade with some of the world's greatest economies. it doesn't come with all the law that that used to hamper such agreements with the eu and it's going to make a difference. therefore to the wealth of the nation and anything that makes a difference to the wealth of the nation makes a difference to your viewers and to all of us. yes indeed. and places us at the indeed. and it places us at the heart of asia, which is going to be the great growing economy of the 21st century. and can we talk about those delays in dover

? my heart goes out to the many brits trying to get to france for their holiday. is it due to brexit at no brexit itself isn't to blame for anything? is what people have done with brexit that makes the difference that this is all happening on the french side . this is french. french side. this is french. this the french saying we are going to make lives. what precisely because brexit. now the net result will be that sooner or later people are going to say, well, we won't go to france . you know, we'll go france. you know, we'll go somewhere else. what is? more efficient? but it is also it's not just deliberate property action. it is much inefficiency, failure to provide enough staff at. the very moment that is going to be increased traffic because it is off holidays. that's not rocket science to work. product but france is in a of a pickle in general at the moment. so perhaps of all things just can't quite get it right. absolutely right. tom p, as they say, say and thrilled to have

back on the show. we'll see you in a week's time and widdecombe is always our newsmaker every sunday night. thanks again. next up, we've got papers in full. all the front pages with full punditry . also, should celebrity punditry. also, should celebrity stay out of politics. all of thatis stay out of politics. all of that is .

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dolan tonight. thank you for your company evening. we've had such a busy and lots of emails have coming in thick and fast where. do i start. market gb news .uk . how where. do i start. market gb news .uk. how about this douglas hi mark. when are you going to send and off to the high security nursing home? she's obviously escaped one of those. i've never heard such build . i've never heard such build. that she comes out with she obviously doesn't live on the same planet as the of us do. douglas they're not pulling his punches in regards to. anne, and what she had to say. however there's a counter argument to every argument. this from pam and widdecombe so sensible . as and widdecombe so sensible. as always, go , says pam. there you always, go, says pam. there you go. that rhymes. it was almost a poem. of course, there is a delay at dover, says john. so many immigration processing officials , so many dinghies. officials, so many dinghies. thatis officials, so many dinghies. that is problem. okay and also , that is problem. okay and also, how about this ? oh, yeah. no

how about this? oh, yeah. no let's have a look. sorry. we'll come to. oh yeah. cashless society. that's right. we were just talking about whether or not would like have a not you would like have a cashless society. james says, hi, mark. live which leans hi, mark. we live in which leans mark. we've stopped using and onune mark. we've stopped using and online that refuse to take cash it's becoming more difficult jim you for that reminder that this show is global course my priority is . the people of great priority is. the people of great britain and northern ireland. but the show is global. people are watching everywhere on youtube. it's time now for this . yes, we've got tomorrow's papers . i'm . yes, we've got tomorrow's papers. i'm looking forward to getting through these because we've got some cracking stories . where shall we start? let's go to think the independent is first. okay. what a disgrace . first. okay. what a disgrace. government u—turns on pledge to stop executives using apprentice fund to further their own careers . what a waste. minister careers. what a waste. minister admits they're gaming the system but still turns blind eye to misuse of tax money. the government has backtracked on its pledge to crack down on the

use of taxpayers money to fund university courses for people earning figure salaries . earning figure salaries. financial times oil producers . financial times oil producers. spnng financial times oil producers. spring surprise output cuts of more than a million barrels a day. bad news for our energy suppues. day. bad news for our energy supplies . the eye newspaper nhs supplies. the eye newspaper nhs mental healthcare faces public after family outcry uk's largest ever investigation into nhs mental health services is expected to upgraded to a full pubuc expected to upgraded to a full public inquiry , meaning medics public inquiry, meaning medics must give evidence 2000 deaths met metro. the easter haul delays fear over 19 hour ferry hold—ups as france is blamed for the backlog . daily telegraph the backlog. daily telegraph ethnicity of grooming gangs cannot be ignored , police told. cannot be ignored, police told. political correctness no longer prevent the police from using the ethnicity of suspects to identify gangs. this is something rishi sunak will say tomorrow . asian grooming gangs tomorrow. asian grooming gangs would not be allowed to evade

justice because of cultural sensitivities . this, according sensitivities. this, according to a government spokesman, speaking ahead of the unveiling of a package of measures designed to crack down on organised networks . abusers, organised networks. abusers, bomb in statue kills kremlin russia's city of st petersburg was yesterday hit by an explosion in a cafe that killed an ultra nationalist war correspondent and propagandist . correspondent and propagandist. also phone alerts will chaos plans to test a mobile emergency siren could bring chaos to the roads this drivers panic upon heanng roads this drivers panic upon hearing the alert this according to inside as in whitehall and now the daily star i love you terminate marriage robots are taking over the world and the misses sydney the chat bot scared the pants a boffin by telling him to dump his other half it's a fatal a.i. traction and you go and those are your

front pages fantastic stuff reacting to all of that my brilliant pundits tonight. david oldroyd bolts , who is of course, oldroyd bolts, who is of course, a bit of a legend, a historian and political commentator. journalist and consultant emma burnell award winning playwright . well, so knowing how talented she is and former conservative mp and now former neil parish. neil can we talk about this rather extraordinary story that's cal's are going to be given a special feed to stop them belching tell me more basically if it's a cow actually digest the sheep and digest the proteins the food that they're taking in. they'll belch less and they'll less methane gas . and they'll less methane gas. the new zealanders have done much for their diet and this is a natural of grasses and so i think we can do a lot more. i don't to see too many chemicals actually give up or any cows

because that's what worries in sheep. but i think we can do a lot more and i it'll be good because you know using good grasses to produce our meat but if we can reduce the amount of methane. would be a good step forward . so the new zealanders forward. so the new zealanders wanted to bring a tax in on, on their, on the methane and of course it was nicknamed the tax. so we do , we do have to be so we do, we do have to be a little careful. i suggest if we go down the dare i say at the thought. yeah. i mean would you be able to tell me a bit more about your bullocks i guess my herefords . yeah. do you all they herefords. yeah. do you all they all cattle by the way sir i want to put you right on this but they're cattle all right. they're all they white face, not women and brown, they're not women. that's right. they're cattle. sheep. tell me tell cattle. not sheep. tell me tell me about what? you've got a head of cattle. how 30. of cattle. how many? 30. it's pretty. does. that is a full pretty. it does. that is a full time isn't it. well it's of time job isn't it. well it's of getting and i'll getting that way and i'll probably it up to 50 and it

probably take it up to 50 and it keeps me, keeps me off the internet. how many of you. yes we are in the field. yeah. yes. you does you all thought thing he does it. which i have been off it. which, which i have been off a long time ago. yeah, listen. what's that. what's. did you milk them or. no , these milk any them or. no, no, these are. beef animals , you are. these are beef animals, you see. yeah. i have to educate the difference a dairy cow . difference between a dairy cow. why can't eat a dairy cow? why can't you eat a dairy cow? well, you do . he did a very. well, you do. he did a very. okay, when later on in life. right but most of that is sort of older meat for processing . so of older meat for processing. so your beef animal is your high quality beef where. you get your your ribeye steaks and the like your ribeye steaks and the like you see which you. so what is it really like in an ageing cow. well it'll be just a bit tougher anyway. right. so, so do we not wind up eating the old cow meat. doesit wind up eating the old cow meat. does it go into dog food. oh no, no, no, no, no. a lot of it goes to france actually . that's why. to france actually. that's why. quite right. why the french so worked up over because of the very cows. but i won't go into the business it to them the metro , the east the whole delays

metro, the east the whole delays . it's a nightmare for many brits trying to get away, isn't it? yeah, it's absolutely what you want if we're all working so hard at the moment, i think we've had a rough out and those people are using this easter break. in fact, my sister and her children away at the moment. yeah yeah. they the thing they want and if you've chosen to go by ferry , it's probably because by ferry, it's probably because you can't afford the other opfions. you can't afford the other options . so you can't afford the other options. so it is the people on the sharper who are sitting in these queues for hours and hours and hours . and it's no way to and hours. and it's no way to start a holiday. of and hours. and it's no way to start a holiday . of course what start a holiday. of course what they are then going to have hanging over their holiday is the notion going to be justified anyway and need a holiday when they get home because they've another 20 hour wait? david even simon calder, who's the travel at the independent, has said this is because of brexit, is that true well as and when cancelled it is because of brexit because . the french are brexit because. the french are being vindictive, yet again. and why are we surprised by this all

just incompetence? well, vindictive evilness would perhaps better on the perhaps look better on the french than sheer incompetence . french than sheer incompetence. it's them to decide which it's up to them to decide which they to labelled by the they wish to labelled by the brits for period. it is brits for that for period. it is of course because emma of course horrid because emma says these are people are says these are people who are struggling most and, need struggling the most and, need the the most. it's the holiday the most. it's possible, they might possible, that they might therefore decide it next time that somewhere else. that they'll go somewhere else. and the french might therefore decide that they need stop decide that they need to stop acting horribly us. you acting so horribly to us. you would hope so, will they? we'll see in summer. well, i think a lot of this, so many issues lot of this, like so many issues around brexit, be around brexit, will be logistical. actually in logistical. and that actually in time they'll scan passports more quickly the paperwork or go digital . and i don't think we'll digital. and i don't think we'll be having conversation in ten years time. oh in ten years time, absolutely not. no, because the french will realise that not in their interest that it's not in their interest to up for best part to up britain. for the best part of day at the when they of a day at the ports when they want come in and their want to come in and spend their money there and i think it wouldn't necessarily be pressure from the french from within the french government. be people, government. it will be people, you know, in normandy, you know, people in normandy, people the people in brittany where the ferries who ferries and send tourists who are you come on,

are saying, you know, come on, let in, we're let these people in, we're losing now. lots of high losing here now. lots of high profile and other media profile lawyers and other media types from what only be types from from what only be described as the sort of north london wagging london finger wagging metropolitan elites brexit favourite people, their favourite people, their favourite people, their favourite people, right? it's favourite people, right? it's favourite people. and this group been has been pointed out by matthew goodwin, the professor, the academics, politics professor in his new book been very excited . suella braverman very excited. suella braverman comments relation to grooming gangs suggesting . it's racist gangs suggesting. it's racist but we've got the daily telegraph tomorrow saying . telegraph tomorrow saying. ethnicity of grooming gangs cannot ignored. and this is what the prime minister will say tomorrow. your investigation showed what a problem this was. there has been testimony , there has been testimony, testimony after testimony from the people who were the victims of the grooming eggs and their families saying, that they were ignored. and in sometimes themselves made the victims of really quite reprehensible treatment from social services because there was a fear in the north in the midlands that this

would seen as a racist campaign. it was clear to the social services and the police in these areas what was going on overwhelmingly pakistani grooming was overwhelmingly pakistani gangs. this pakistani grooming gangs. this was for the best was known about for the best part decade is a national part of a decade is a national scandal. should heads scandal. there should be heads rolling civil . they should scandal. there should be heads rol senior civil . they should scandal. there should be heads rol senior policemen 1ey should scandal. there should be heads rol senior policemen of' should scandal. there should be heads rol senior policemen of theyuld scandal. there should be heads rol senior policemen of the time be senior policemen of the time who are having to be held for not investigating this. and i am very, very glad indeed that the home secretary and prime home secretary and the prime minister are choosing to minister are choosing now to give light it so dearly give this the light it so dearly deserves. it's deserves. and i know it's a complex but the prime complex issue, but the prime minister tomorrow will order complex issue, but the prime ministyforcesorrow will order complex issue, but the prime ministyforces to ow will order complex issue, but the prime ministyforces to improveyrder complex issue, but the prime ministyforces to improve the' police forces to improve the recording and analysis of ethnicity data in an attempt to prevent perpetrators of abuse from falling through the net which, let's be honest, has happened to hundreds if not thousands of young girls. absolutely. and i think it's really important that we put child safeguarding and the purpose , whoever they are should purpose, whoever they are should not feel safe to enact those crimes . and that has to be the crimes. and that has to be the blind principle of justice. now,

ihave blind principle of justice. now, i have plenty of friends within the british pakistani community who are just as horrified as the rest, of course. so what's really important is that we don't go, this is endemic within that community, you know, so that community, you know, so that that is the subtle difference that has to happen in the public conversation. but we it is absolutely going to be colour—blind to it to ignore the perhaps the problem . but i don't perhaps the problem. but i don't think it's about ignoring ethnicity. it's about making sure that i think all we've actually done the focus it of ignonng actually done the focus it of ignoring ethnicity ethnicity has become way of people saying you cannot pursue me for these crimes . actually, that is a vast crimes. actually, that is a vast calumny on the people of that ethnicity that they know . 9.99% ethnicity that they know. 9.99% of british pakistanis who are absolutely horrified by these these people are using excuses and they shouldn't be to. but what we have to identify , neil, what we have to identify, neil, is if it's an issue within

culture of one or another community. but the broadcaster, adil ray today has singled out the british pakistani community as perpetrator of sexual grooming. he cites a documentary that he made in 2011 outlining a disproportionate number. but as the home office's own report in 2020 confirmed, the majority of in terms of grooming gangs. so where do we go from here? and i think we've just got to make sure that we treat whatever ethnic it's this as the you are that you are treated exact the same you can't hide behind . and same you can't hide behind. and then to make sure that everybody is actually brought to book over because i think we have got stamp it out there were real problems in the midlands at in particular i think we let's make sure that who is grooming is deau sure that who is grooming is dealt with and brought to and locked up if necessary. that is the key to it. yeah, i couldn't

agree more and i do think what slightly me and i would very much to hear rishi sunak reassure about this is there won't be an overt that we are looking at as a as it is clear in home office report the majority of white perpetrators to that don't overlook them. so i think let's be really conscious that the problem is child abuse. yeah and that's what we have to deal with. whoever is abuse. is it as an endemic pattern within certain communities then ? the police communities then? the police have to make that focus in order to stop these crimes, don't they 7 to stop these crimes, don't they ? if that studies found in the course investing be the course of investing to be the case, then yes . course of investing to be the case, then yes. emma's point that that british pakistanis who were perpetrating grooming felt , that they had essentially indemnity from prosecution, from investigation this was so because they were given that impression. police and social services . and i think we need to services. and i think we need to return to this point and there needs to be a serious investigation that brings those who gave that absolute who gave abuses that absolute justice because the victims

deserve it must be recompense to the victims and that comes with those who gave their abusers impunity receiving penalties . impunity receiving penalties. coming up, should a pop stay out of politics after the next eurovision star has been attacking johnson and brexit. also, we've got tomorrow's times newspaper and how often should you clean your carpet? all the big questions don't go anywhere, even to .

welcome back to mark dolan tonight. we've got more papers for you. let's have a look at the times newspaper. and they lead with child abuse gangs by political correctness. we're turning to a story we discussed just a moment ago, sunak announces a task force to target grooming and. also, brexit clash as rules are blamed for david

chaos. officials at the port of dover clashed with the home secretary tonight over her claims that border delays, stretching to 15 hours, had nothing to do with brexit, well, that one's going to run and. let's get to more stories. and this one caught our eye. may mula , who is representing the mula, who is representing the u.k. the next eurovision is , it u.k. the next eurovision is, it turns out, is a left wing activist who hates boris johnson and said he did deserve an icu bed during the pandemic. may who will perform perform her track in liverpool next month made the remarks as boris was receiving medical treatment for the virus . so should celebrities stay out of politics. neil yeah, i mean, i think you won't keep celebrities out of politics i think being having previously been elected politician. i don't want to too pompous about it, but at least you actually are elected and therefore are answerable then to your electorate. the problem is that if you are not, you can actually pontificate on anything and i

think , you know, of all the think, you know, of all the crimes that boris may or may have not committed to actually target on the fact that he actually nearly died and he needed to be in hospital and we nearly actually serving nearly actually lost a serving prime through that i prime minister through that i think a rich so i think you think is a rich so i think you know i mean let's be careful what we do and i think the thing is too i think the trouble with celebrity is that you naturally you say or do whatever you you can say or do whatever you like and that's free. i'm not going to against it, but i think people do actually follow lavatories very much. i suppose as a politician, we probably actually hate that. but you know i can understand why, but i, i think i think it is dangerous sometimes when people have very you know, very extreme views on anybody that is not it's not right, is it not a problem on the left. but you were a delightful , the left. but you were a delightful, cuddly the left. but you were a delightful , cuddly leftie the left. but you were a delightful, cuddly leftie . is delightful, cuddly leftie. is that your nice way of saying, i'm you've got a figure to die for? let me tell you. but the

issue is it's not mainstream folk on the left, is it? but there's a sort of people perhaps at the edge of, you know, both sides who can be very cruel. there are people can be very cruel. they're always have been. there are celebrities , the left there are celebrities, the left and on the right who say to get attention. i don't think she did say this to get attention because said it a long time because she said it a long time before she was thrust into the pubuc before she was thrust into the public eye. look, i wouldn't have said that. it's have said that. i think it's tasteless, but would absolutely as a free speech champion defend her right to say well i'm with you that exactly which you can definitely but telling definitely it but it's telling isn't that left leaning isn't it that left leaning actors like miriam margolyes said she , boris johnson, said that she, boris johnson, had died ? i don't hear too much had died? i don't hear too much of that from the right. no i don't think you do because the right tends not to be as tasteless increases are left because. they know they won't get jim davidson. well and what happened to jim davidson's career? you see bbc two career? you see him on bbc two presenting no , presenting game shows. no, no, do. celebrity do. it's basically celebrity show go away, which of course, the height of public

entertainment. but miriam margolyes is still quite high things because the left does have a degree of impunity. look, this has always been the case with people of the creative arts because they are a sort of a hyper minority of was a revolutionary who to leave germany because he was trying to overthrow the monarchy and then went on to write of the most vile tracts of anti—semitic rubbish produced. it didn't rubbish ever produced. it didn't stop that he wrote stop the fact that he wrote probably the greatest opera ever written been written as well. there've been p0p written as well. there've been pop stars ever since advent written as well. there've been po popars ever since advent written as well. there've been po pop who've since advent written as well. there've been po pop who've had e advent written as well. there've been po pop who've had bizarredvent written as well. there've been po pop who've had bizarre views of pop who've had bizarre views . robert. robert fripp from king crimson were renowned for not allowing band mates the allowing band mates into the band unless had the rights band unless they had the rights right sign many fallen right star sign and many fallen prey to scientology. i think have to just accept that the creative slightly creative mind, a slightly offbeat one, and if they come up therefore with political opinions well, well, opinions as well, well, that's par the course. if she's par for the course. if she's great singer and if she helps us finally i don't frankly finally to win, i don't frankly care right, care what believes quite right, it's because she's not going to influence anyone. david, are you a muncher ? i'm afraid a carpet muncher? i'm afraid not. no . because let me

not. today, no. because let me tell you that research found that flaws in carpets often neglected during household claims, especially in british bedrooms . fact the carpet , bedrooms. fact the carpet, britain's bedrooms can be than the toilets so have carpets in home become outdated? what do you think david, about about carpets is your home carpeted it is carpet is just more of a rug. i am a really great fan of a good thick rug. think it's a wonderful thing to have on your back to me later. well, particularly on the bedroom floor it baffles the sounds marvellously and know marvellously and you know there's about there's nothing so bad about being someone else's flat as being in someone else's flat as when they've got blinds and floorboards or the sound bounces everywhere. sitting in floorboards or the sound bounces eveecho ere. sitting in floorboards or the sound bounces eveecho chamber sitting in floorboards or the sound bounces eveecho chamber to, sitting in floorboards or the sound bounces eveecho chamber to, being in floorboards or the sound bounces eveecho chamber to, be in| in an echo chamber to, be in a lovely thick scrub room, to and the enveloping warmth of a british and a proper british carpet and a proper curtain. it makes me feel proud. so then you go all, all carpets by definition a british thing and you think neil made a good wool axminster wool carpet in axminster you can't have anything better and with a farmhouse , like i said, with a farmhouse, like i said, with a farmhouse, like i said, with a farmhouse, like i said,

with a few draughts it you actually need good carpet so actually do need good carpet so i think you need a mixture like all things i think also naturally you do actually need to clean carpets that's what forget and of course if you've got a as well the other problem is you sometimes get fleas in the carpet as well. so it's just a case of keeping carpet clean. but i think insulate i think they are a great natural product long as you don't have a nylon carpet . but of course, you know carpet. but of course, you know , they are expensive, but they are very . emma , they are expensive, but they are very. emma begs to , they are expensive, but they are very . emma begs to differ are very. emma begs to differ i'm the carpet free in my house and i love this going home i love my family so i'm honestly i walk around i never have shoes on in my own home i never ask anyone to take this off either. ihave anyone to take this off either. i have this exact conversation with a friend who came over and immediately took her shoes off. i didn't you do what? i didn't ask you to do what? middle class, living alone. i'm lower middle class. think that's how the shoes is? a little lower middle class. think that's hov snobby. )es is? a little lower middle class. think that's hov snobby. ies is? a little lower middle class. think that's hov snobby. i always? a little bit snobby. i always find. i mean, if wear carpets it then i

probably ask people to take their shoes off because that's what you're going to say to you. the floors, which i've the wood floors, which i've mostly are cleaner . mostly got, are much cleaner. they are. and i'm use as a cleaning, something i can sweep up easily . and i have got a cat up easily. and i have got a cat as sky news viewers for know katie scarlett bombed me the other day . is that she other day. is that right? she did bless a little cotton socks , but she she does shed and when she does, it's much easier to clean on these wooden floors if you're very lazy i am what you find with the wooden floors is that the dust kind of shifts to the edge of the room. yeah you just. just go along the bottom of the wall with a damp tissue. like the great thing. chris after three years, you don't nofice. after three years, you don't notice . yeah, know, just notice. yeah, you know, just there. but there you go. well we love a bit of colour that we that's why i like the great british pub by the way you get a old carpet down your boozer and it's that's a good it's sticky. that's what a good pub should be sticking. the worst thing though i grew up with toilet. the bathroom. sorry carpet in the bathroom. yeah, yeah. thank give

yeah. stinky, look. thank give you a company. really? enjoy the last days. back on last three days. i'm back on friday at eight headline is this next. hello there i'm greg dewhurst and welcome to our latest broadcast from the met office . try over the next few office. try over the next few days as high pressure builds in, we will see plenty of sunny spells by day, but chilly at night and then rain later moving in by the middle of the week. this high pressure to this area of high pressure to the east of us keeping weather fronts bay generally over the next will try next few days. but they will try and in. we head towards and move in. we head towards wednesday particular wednesday in particular bringing some weather some wetter and windy weather across the west across, the north and the west to evening out there. we've got clear skies . much of the uk clear skies. much of the uk just, some thicker cloud around northern and western areas. this will generally keep frost will generally keep the frost bay elsewhere under bay here. but elsewhere under the tonight see the clear tonight we'll see temperatures fall in close to if not below freezing, —2 to —4 in the province parts of northern england and southern scotland. but that means plenty of blue to start the day on monday , a start the day on monday, a chilly start you might need to scrape the ice off the car, but that will soon melt away as the

sun gets work and then through the day on a fine day to come plenty of sunny spells, sunshine a bit more hazy, though, and limited across parts of northern ireland and. scotland. but temperatures doing well 14 or 15 celsius in the north, in the west, but still along some eastern coasts with the breeze coming off the north here, temperatures falling away again monday evening under those skies, the cloud just thickening across parts of northern ireland, western and scotland. further as this weather system to move in, giving a few splashes of rain. but just nofice splashes of rain. but just notice the blues returning back on the map, indicating a frost, returning take us into returning to take us into tuesday morning . that means tuesday morning. that means again, a sunny start. much of england and wales skies across northern ireland far , west of northern ireland far, west of scotland to begin to stay. some patchy rain and drizzle here continues through the day. but elsewhere plenty of sunny spells over again . the sunshine just over again. the sunshine just turning hazy and further east across parts of scotland , across parts of scotland, northern england into the afternoon . temperatures not too afternoon. temperatures not too bad that that wet weather

bad in that that wet weather moving for wednesday and thursday, but temperatures overall, a little above average average