t0 protecting our to protecting our own health and keeping us as well as we can be. apparently, we're taking it for granted. is it is it time then to stop charging for aids and overin to stop charging for aids and over in manchester and debenham, he's saying that more needs to be done to basically tell a story in manchester of how slavery has helped shape the city. is it do we need to do more.7 or actually, what we need to do is start looking forwards rather than backwards. your thoughts on that? and as a mother to a two year old boy, i am upset, lutely sickened again today when i see yet another two year old murdered by the very

person that was supposed to care for her. is it time now to bring back capital punishment and finally give the death penalty to those that murder children ? to those that murder children? and i say yes. what says you? and i say yes. what says you? and if you are switching on saying, what about the big orange guy , michelle, donald orange guy, michelle, donald trump? what's is the latest with him? i want to see what's going on. well, we know everybody because he due in court about because he is due in court about 7:15 uk time and we will not be missing an interview. you can see the scene there. we're actually waiting for him to leave to head over to that courtroom as we speak. if there's any developments, you would be the first to hear about it. so before we get into all of that, let's bring ourselves up to speed with tonight's latest headunes. to speed with tonight's latest headlines . michelle, thank you. headlines. michelle, thank you. good evening. i'm bethany elsey with your top stories from the gb news stream. donald trump is calling for his case to be moved to a different venue, claiming

potential bias, saying he faces a kangaroo court. potential bias, saying he faces a kangaroo court . these are live a kangaroo court. these are live pictures from new york where he will become the first sitting all former us president to be charged with a criminal offence. trump was indicted over alleged hush money payments to the adult film star stormy daniels during his 2016 election campaign . his his 2016 election campaign. his lawyer says he will plead not guilty while actor and trump activist antonio sabato jr told gb news this is a political attack on the american people . attack on the american people. there's just a lot of lies in the world and we have a man who speaks the truth, who loves the american people more than his own life. pretty much who loves god and who's fighting for us. so we're fighting with him. he's going to. this is a joke. you'll be back home this afternoon in florida, where he belongs. well, crowds of his supporters and those against him are gathering to see him appear in court. those against him are gathering to see him appear in court . a to see him appear in court. a historic day. we're fine . i'm historic day. we're fine. i'm somebody with so much power . the

somebody with so much power. the ex—president is going to be arrested and hopefully held accountable for his crimes against women. and we hope that this is the first time these crimes he will be crimes that he will be prosecuted that there will prosecuted and that there will be the rest of his be for all the rest of his crimes will be. he is trying to take this misdemeanour , turn it take this misdemeanour, turn it into a felony, and now tied in with the federal election crimes . and it's just that's not what america is about. you don't make up new laws to target someone. i'm here because trump needs to be held accountable for one of the many crimes he's committed. and i'm here in support of democracy because i think he's a threat . in other news, finland threat. in other news, finland has officially become the 31st member of the nato military alliance. the expense in triggered by the invasion of ukraine roughly doubles the length of the border that nato's shares with russia. the kremlin is warning the move raises the

risk of conflict and has threatened to take countermeasures . nato's countermeasures. nato's secretary—general celebrated what he called the fast accession in the organisation's history. this sends a clear message that every nation has the right to choose this own path that need to store remains open and no one can cross it with force or coercion. nato is a community united by our values. freed on democracy and the rule of law. we stand together . we protect and defend together. we protect and defend it. shoulder all for one. and one for all. a mother and stepfather have been convicted over the death of their toddler. two year old lola. james was attacked in her home in haverfordwest in pembrokeshire back in july 2020. she died in hospital four days later after suffering catastrophic brain injuries . kyle bevan was found

injuries. kyle bevan was found guilty of murder and teenage games, guilty of allowing her death. they'll both be sentenced later this month . tick tock has later this month. tick tock has been fined . £12] million by the been fined. £12] million by the infamous auction commissioner's office for misusing children data. the data regulate says up to 1.4 million children under the age of 13 were using the app in 2020, which goes against the company's own terms of use. uk data protection law also requires the platform to seek consent from parents of young users . the consent from parents of young users. the home consent from parents of young users . the home secretary could users. the home secretary could face a legal challenge over plans to house migrants on a barge. the government is expected to announce that a leasing agreement has been reached to use the baby stockholm indoors it which can accommodate more than 500 people. the move designed to free up hotel stays will reportedly cost taxpayers more

than £20,000 a day . the than £20,000 a day. the immigration minister, robert jenrick, has been disqualified from driving for six months. the mp for newark was caught travelling nearly 30 miles per hour faster than a variable speed limit on the m1 in august last year. he was also fined more than 1600 pounds, halving social care funds in england has been described as a betrayal , been described as a betrayal, with the labour leader accusing the government of breaking promises . in december 20, 21, at promises. in december 20, 21, at least £500 million was pledged to help transform support for the social care workforce that's now been cut because of rising costs and trouble recruiting staff. but social care minister helen whately denied reducing funds and says the reforms are unnecessary . we're not taking unnecessary. we're not taking any money away from social care at all. the money that was allocated for social care is going into social care. we made a historic commitment to social

care . the autumn statement up care. the autumn statement up went up to £7.5 billion going into social care and today what we're doing is announcing the next steps on our social care reform. so taking forward really important reforms for adult social care. at the heart of which actually is the workforce and making sure that the care workforce has the recognition status it deserves and the government is setting out a new plan to ensure a clean and plentiful supply of water for the future. the government wants to see more investment from walked water companies as well as tougher enforcement for those who pollute . it could also ban who pollute. it could also ban plastic in wet wipes and introduce restriction pins on substances and textiles . substances and textiles. cleaning products and paints. you're up to date on tv, online dab radio and tune in now. it's back to .

back to. michelle thanks for that. bethany elsey. michelle dewberry. and i'm keeping you company right through till 7:00 tonight alongside dominique samuels, a political commentator , and james political commentator, and james schneider , the former adviser to schneider, the former adviser to jeremy corbyn. i want your thoughts. tonight's lots coming up on tonight's show. one of thoughts. tonight's lots coming up on tonight's show . one of the up on tonight's show. one of the things that's really got to me, ihave things that's really got to me, i have to be honest, is yet another two year old being killed by the person that was supposed to protect and care for them. i'm asking you, is it time to bring back the death penalty for child murderers ? steph has for child murderers? steph has just in with me. she just been in touch with me. she said, you don't give these said, if you don't give these people a death penalty , people a death penalty, sterilise them so that they could never, ever have children again. what do you think of that ? i'll leave it to you guys to be the judge of gbv. ? i'll leave it to you guys to be the judge of gbv . use that be the judge of gbv. use that gbnews.uk my email or you can gbnews.uk is my email or you can tweet at gb news is if tweet me at gb news too is if you're wondering all the latest of trump, the way, you you're wondering all the latest of not trump, the way, you you're wondering all the latest of not need ump, the way, you you're wondering all the latest of not need to p, the way, you you're wondering all the latest of not need to go the way, you you're wondering all the latest of not need to go anywhere i, you do not need to go anywhere because are watching, seeing because we are watching, seeing what's going on. he is, of course, due court. about

course, due into court. about course, due into court. about course past seven. so you've got about hour also this time. about an hour also this time. but anything changes , we'll but if anything changes, we'll be it. you be straight across it. so you won't miss worry not let's won't miss out. worry not let's talk. that's matters closer to home. the net. yes, it's been stated today that the free health care and i always use the word free, by the way, loosely, because this sentence about being free at the point of view. so i mean, come on now, because if you work and you paid a small fortune, for example, your national insurance contributions, that's free contributions, that's not free in but anyway, in my eyes. but anyway, i digress. top pharmacy boss digress. a top pharmacy boss reckons that the nhs, being so—called free at the point of use, makes people reluctant to look their own health. look after their own health. he's saying basically, we've got to change the population's mindset and get them to take better care of themselves, he suggests. by way of making them value the nhs more. james your thoughts? he doesn't have a clue what he's talking about. i'm afraid. i mean, pretty much every country that has health care free at the point of view has high life expectancy and better health care outcomes. so of course, people should take

care of themselves and they can be to take care of be encouraged to take care of themselves. but the way to not do is to make health care do it is to make health care expensive and unavailable to millions people. look the millions of people. look at the difference between life expectancy and the uk. expectancy in the us and the uk. the is a richer country than the us is a richer country than here, but it's got much worse life expectancy in large part because it's got such an awful health system. so i don't think we should listening to a kind we should be listening to a kind of care boss. we of private health care boss. we should the fact that should be valuing the fact that we health as a human we have health care as a human right is the most civilised thing in this country and we work out to expand it and work out how to expand it and improve it rather dismantle improve it rather than dismantle it that's making it and claim that's making us lazy it's not. isn't lazy when it's not. well, isn't there of you that there an element of you that sits and goes, actually, sits there and goes, actually, the is hugely overstretched the nhs is hugely overstretched now, need to start now, so we do need to start looking at what do we treat, what is it for? should it be absolutely everything for everyone? be more everyone? or should we be more selective? for example, selective? so for example, if you yourself to you want to drink yourself to political you want to political will, if you want to eat instead oblivion, eat yourself instead oblivion, whatever you can, but then you've got to accept some responsibility for your ailments that create for yourself. that you create for yourself.

well, i will not turn into £50 million a week more for the nhs that were promised back in that we were promised back in 2016, honest. so i think 2016, to be honest. so i think we could have. the nhs has been underfunded now for 13 years. we should be funding it properly. we should also be removing the private profit that is inside it and instead returning to having and instead returning to having a fully national system because that way we can drive down the pnces that way we can drive down the prices that we are paying for medical equipment for medicines . i think it's a much wider question personally , i don't question personally, i don't necessarily think it needs to be politicised in such a way whenever we actually have discussions about the nhs, it's always really centred on, you know , what the tories are doing know, what the tories are doing to it or what labour would do if they were under control of the nhs. but i think really logically, if you think about it, like you mentioned about you know, smokers and people that are obese, if you know that you have free health, you know it's free at the point of use. you

are, i think less likely to take those sorts of considerations about your own health. and i think generally honest societal level, i don't think we take enough responsibility for our own health. i think we look to the nhs to solve all of the country's problems. we look to large pharmaceutical companies to solve all of our health issues. and i really do believe it's created a culture of dependence. whether or not this health chief means it in that way, i think is another question entirely. but i definitely think it has a point that i think we are a bit lazy when it comes to taking care of ourselves. and, you know, we look to government to solve all our problems when in no which in reality no matter which government public government you have the public fall and you know, fall short. yeah. and you know, i the challenge with your i think the challenge with your health perhaps we all it health is perhaps we all take it for granted as well . and for granted as well. and then it's when do have it's only when you do have a little bit of a challenge that then you start to think, maybe i should have done a little bit more staff by the way, i more staff myself. by the way, i mentioned to you mentioned donald trump to you earlier think there's earlier on. i think there's a little of development. look little bit of development. look at we'd a little bit

at that. we'd like a little bit of moving picture here. you see that everybody well, that convoy? everybody well, that convoy? everybody well, thatis that convoy? everybody well, that is indeed donald trump. he is to court is heading over to court initially, of course , to learn initially, of course, to learn what they want. the charges against him actually are we don't know what that is yet . don't know what that is yet. what do you make of this whole donald trump let's be donald trump set, let's be honest, is little bit of a honest, is a little bit of a media circus now? isn't that all your thoughts on it, james? the biggest convoy in the history of the that's that's the world. that's what that's all that. no we all i can see from that. no we don't know what the charges are. so either if it's going to end his political career , well, then his political career, well, then that's it doesn't that's that. but if it doesn't kill him, it will him kill him, it will make him stronger. gives him more of stronger. it gives him more of a victim narrative. and i think, you know, this circus going you know, this circus is going to rumble for, on well, to now rumble for, on well, all the and then beyond the way to 2024 and then beyond , regardless of whether he wins or not. as far as i'm aware, it's regarding the stormy daniels payment during the election. something to do with that. yes well, we don't really know the full list of charges that he's on the hook for at the moment. a lot of it is centring

initially around the way that the payments are. stormy daniels, something to do with reimbursing the lawyer was accounted for whether or not accounted for and whether or not that was all followed. due process. i think there's rumoured about 30 odd rumoured to be about 30 odd charges against him. and i think to honest think people to be honest, i think people a lot people are threatened by lot of people are threatened by donald i think very donald trump. i think he very much disrupted the status quo. there's a lot of people across a lot of spectrums that don't want him anywhere near political office or political influence ever again. so, you know, to me , it has very much a sense of what can we pin on this guy? like now is our moment to shine our bets is a bit gutted, actually as well that he wasn't kind of out in handcuffs as well, because i think those kind of would have bolstered of images would have bolstered support him, would have support for him, would have helped him. you say, james, helped him. and you say, james, you know we'll to wait and you know, we'll have to wait and see or will the see whether or not will be the end of political career. all end of his political career. all walked i don't it walked out. i don't think it will. doesn't kill him will will. what doesn't kill him will make stronger for sure. make him stronger for sure. yeah. and you've seen it. you've seen huge groups of people seen huge, huge groups of people out the rallying for out on the streets rallying for him. really him,

him. they really do back him, believe in him. and i suspect it's actually for a lot of people, are is people, what the charges are is absolutely . they've absolutely irrelevant. they've made they think made their mind up. they think it's a witch. they think people are to get him. well it's are out to get him. well it's because there some because there are some inconsistencies. so, for example, his monologue example, when his monologue residence fbi residence was raided by the fbi , because he had official , it was because he had official documents when he should have left them at the white house. and then it emerges that biden had done exactly the same thing when president and when he was vice president and really the crickets about that . really the crickets about that. and then we're starting to find out about the general sick so—called insurrection that donald trump apparently orchestrated more information is coming out about that, about the actual people that entered the capitol being actually guided and led through by capitol police. so you know, to a lot of people, it is a witch hunt. i'm not sure it actually helps the democrats because really a bigger threat would be ron desantis, not donald trump. what do you make to donald trump at

home if you are a massive trump fan, is there anything at all that could change your view? is there anything that on the so—called charge sheet that would make you think, oh, yeah, iused would make you think, oh, yeah, i used to be in for him, but no more or do you just think actually, i said earlier on actually, as i said earlier on the now and you're the witch hunt, now and you're all trying to get rid of all just trying to get rid of him because of your own political gain, your thoughts on all of that? return , all of that? should we return, though, matters closer to though, to matters closer to home? we're going to keep following that. so rest assured, home? we're going to keep foyou're] that. so rest assured, home? we're going to keep foyou're sitting so rest assured, home? we're going to keep foyou're sitting theret assured, home? we're going to keep foyou're sitting there and;ured, home? we're going to keep foyou're sitting there and youi, if you're sitting there and you want to know what's going on, you're going to miss it. you're not going to miss it. we're happen. don't we're not let that happen. don't you about it. so shall i you worry about it. so shall i just quickly return a final words to the nhs story that we were just touching upon? me were just touching upon? let me just ask you this. people that missed their appointments in the nhs, do you think they should be fined? tenner i think it's quite reasonable really , no, because reasonable really, no, because there's been these studies about how when you bring those things in people miss them more. so there's this is really kindergarten experiment where they put in fines of parents who

came to pick up their kids late from school and when they brought in the fines, people were coming much later to pick up their kids because i call it's free childcare for a tennen it's free childcare for a tenner. so i don't think we should do that. i think when they text you and they say, tell us if you're going to miss this appointment , cost the us if you're going to miss this appointment, cost the nhs us if you're going to miss this appointment , cost the nhs 150 appointment, cost the nhs150 quid, that's way more effective way you either say yes way of making you either say yes , “0, way of making you either say yes , no, i'm not going , i'm going or no, i'm not going because feel some obligation because you feel some obligation to do it rather than, oh , it's to do it rather than, oh, it's a tennen to do it rather than, oh, it's a tenner. you know, i think there'll be people who who then will just think, well, that's the it the nhs. i the cost of it for the nhs. i actually agree with that. you know i when i heard about that charge i always thought that it would people not charge i always thought that it woul

private care, whether comfortable, they do have privatefor care, whether comfortable, they do have privatefor theircare, whether comfortable, they do have privatefor their job , whether comfortable, they do have privatefor their job or hether comfortable, they do have privatefor their job or theirr that's for their job or their remains or whatever. and i would say if you're paying for your own private care, i think own private health care, i think get discount on whether it's get a discount on whether it's your national insurance contributions your national insurance contrib|yoms pay it twice? should you have to pay it twice? i think that makes sense as well. think i think both can well. i think i think both can exist think our tax exist at once. i think our tax system actually make more system can actually make more sense and our health care system can more sense as well. for can make more sense as well. for example, know example, when you know personally when i think example, when you know persorthe' when i think example, when you know persorthe super when i think example, when you know persorthe super rich hen i think example, when you know persorthe super rich andi think example, when you know persorthe super rich and you 1k about the super rich and you know, and how i believe the tax system actually does benefit them more so than those that are in high paying jobs. but are not they don't have passive income that actually generates most of their wealth. i think there's a distinction that needs to be made with regard to that always . i think that sort of the tax system really punishes those that work and don't have that privilege in the form of passive income. and i think that is what actually creates the inequality. so in fact, well, i don't focus on that then . i mean, taxpayers on that then. i mean, taxpayers fund the nhs . well they do. we

fund the nhs. well they do. we do tax well no we don't. i mean take take capital gains tax and dividends tax is way lower than income tax. that's why rishi sunak pays a lower tax rate than all of us just for capital gains. first and foremost, you're investing post—tax. well so more that more often than not, i don't know. eventually why whatever way you pedro income tax on it now we've invested it i'm not sure that rishi sunak one and a half million quid a year, which comes in very neatly in the last three taxes of capital gains comes from this. you know, he's worked very hard and is and wisely invested it. he's got some money. got he's passively money. he's got he's passively earning income. when he hasn't had to do any work to earn that income. and he's being taxed at a lower rate than what then what we're paying. this is the problem of this. this is and it doesn't have to be a left right thing in polling, the majority of tory voters agree with this point that wealth income point that wealth and income should at the same should be taxed at the same level. in the 1980s and level. and in the 1980s and margaret thatcher prime margaret thatcher was prime minister, was the case. minister, that was the case.

see, that's an absolute see, i think that's an absolute nonsense. the people i have nonsense. the only people i have that view, ask the that view, you ask me, the people haven't any people that haven't got any wealth you maybe wealth because when you maybe i think more to do think they're more likely to do i i do. ijust think they're more likely to do i i do. i just sit there i do what i do. i just sit there and i think everyone wants everyone else to pay a little bit more personally bit more tax personally speaking, everyone speaking, i think everyone should. if it was me, i try and pay should. if it was me, i try and pay tax as could pay as little tax as i could possibly legally. i hasten to add, get away with which said minded wouldn't tell minded peasant wouldn't you tell me? break. what me? it's a quick break. what i come with the latest on come back with off the latest on donald trump. so your reaction to that story and then it just and i've got lots coming up should child murderers the should child murderers get the death penalty and manchester but we need to remind ourselves what slavery is contributed to the city or is it time to look at the future instead rather than backwards? so you want .

to hi, i'm michelle dewberry and

i'm keeping you company right through until 7:00 tonight. so alongside me, dominique samuels and jim schneider. alongside me, dominique samuels and jim schneider . welcome back, and jim schneider. welcome back, everybody . donald trump, we've everybody. donald trump, we've got a livestream, in case you're wondering , what's the latest wondering, what's the latest with him ? we are, of course, with him? we are, of course, watching donald trump and his he's his entourage. i suspect he's his entourage. i suspect he's left trump tower and making his way into the court of in new york. we don't quite know what charges he is currently due to face. we rumour about that he of course the well no one is about the so—called hush money that was paid and whether or not that was paid and whether or not that was properly accounted for or not. let's remind ourselves, this is the first time in us history that a former president will face criminal charges . any will face criminal charges. any of you that was sitting there waiting and hoping for pictures of trump in handcuffs will be sorely disappointed . that's not sorely disappointed. that's not happening much to , i imagine,

happening much to, i imagine, his annoyance is because images of him in those handcuffs, i'm sure, would do very well. peta says the only thing that would stop me supporting donald trump michel , would be if he if he michel, would be if he if he became a democrat in says, why are you talking so much about donald trump is irrelevant to the uk at present. when i go, i'll be honest with you. i mean, i'll be honest with you. i mean, i actually find all this quite fascinating because there's this whole mindset in whole kind of mindset in politics and i would say it's in this country well . why do you this country as well. why do you have these kind of outsider guys that are not allowed to upset the apple cart? and if you do, if you dare, if you have the audacity to get into politics, then many people will turn against you . and i do. i think against you. and i do. i think we see it in many different countries. this one been a very, very real example of in the states. any comments that anyone wants to make on that? if we head off and move on and talk to matters in manchester? well manchester, sorry . what are you manchester, sorry. what are you about, sir? well, i am from manchester. yes, but just about

the relevancy of this, i think it is very relevant because if you think about when donald trump got elected , it sort of trump got elected, it sort of signalled you could say a populist right wing turning point. i think in the us , also point. i think in the us, also the uk with brexit and not being characterised as sort of a populist thing. and if you actually reflect back on how both of those things are going, he's on his way to court and many people feel like brexit hasn't been done so well. hasn't really been done so well. campaign therapy, one of my viewers says they're doing to trump now what they've done to bofis. trump now what they've done to boris . so you're bringing that boris. so you're bringing that situation closer to home. tony says, i was indifferent about donald trump, but says, i was indifferent about donald trump , but watching says, i was indifferent about donald trump, but watching this whole political persecution, he calls it , and whole political persecution, he calls it, and the whole political persecution, he calls it , and the witchhunt calls it, and the witchhunt towards him. i'm now firmly a member of team trump . it's the member of team trump. it's the democrats, he says , behind this democrats, he says, behind this thing, which he calls now a witch hunt and a circus . witch hunt and a circus. terrence, a ted elites quality self. actually, terrence ted

says this is definitely a witch hunt. democrats have been hounding trump since the day he was elected. he again makes the link between trump and boris johnson here. so i'm not not quite sure about that one, jan. i'll say no . i just don't i'll say no. i just don't understand this whole boris victimisation thing. the man put himself in that situation by letting rules be broken that he made , he created. he clearly made, he created. he clearly didn't know that much about them, but it was all going on under his roof. so i think i genuinely i'm really nonplussed when it comes to this whole the both points funny and establishment figures as well . i establishment figures as well. i mean. boris no, i know you know bofis mean. boris no, i know you know boris johnson, eton , oxford, boris johnson, eton, oxford, burlington firmly part of the establishment. yeah donald trump's a billionaire with the big tv empire, a reality tv show and all the rest of it. big tv empire, a reality tv show and all the rest of it . you and all the rest of it. you know, they're funny figures to be supposedly leading the anti—establishment insurgency . anti—establishment insurgency. well, i think the difference and the defence i will have of

donald trump is when he was in office , whether you agree with office, whether you agree with any of the things he did or not, take the walls, for example, he genuinely made efforts to drain the swamp, as he put it on, genuinely made efforts to push through the policies that he was elected to push through . whereas elected to push through. whereas with boris johnson , he had his with boris johnson, he had his manifest manifesto pledge, and then he just seemed to be going all over the place, plunged the country various lockdowns , country into various lockdowns, which he clearly didn't support. if you look back all the text if you look back at all the text messages that been messages that have been unearthed, think that unearthed, people think that vindicates him says, oh, you vindicates him and says, oh, you know, he was against it. lockdowns. it means he's lockdowns. no, it means he's weaker. actually, it makes him look worse, because you're look worse, because if you're a leader policies leader going through policies that don't truly believe that you don't truly believe in, i think you a weak i think that makes you a weak leader, not fit be prime leader, not fit to be prime minister. again, even minister. but then again, even with you know, the with with all the you know, the with the ukraine war, with his obsession with net zero, i just think he's been a massive disappointment. i genuinely don't understand how people still support him , but i mean, still support him, but i mean, people do trump . trump didn't do

people do trump. trump didn't do a lot of the things that he said he would do when he was standing for election. then did some things he said he things that he said that he wouldn't do. the biggest single policy the biggest tax policy did was the biggest tax cut for big business in the super rich and in us history, which wasn't why he was elected only it was also in his 2016 programme. he was talking about he dirties during his election campaign. he did mention taxes. i'm pretty sure he did, but he wasn't saying that he was going to give the corporations and the super rich that he was bashing in his election campaign massive handouts, that was going to handouts, that he was going to cut didn't i mean, they cut them. he didn't i mean, they didn't was going cut didn't say he was going to cut them way in which he them in in the way in which he did. and he said that he was going to do things like have an industrial to bring industrial strategy to bring manufacturing the manufacturing jobs to the us. and lots things that he he and so lots of things that he he didn't well, think he didn't do. well, i think he i think and boris they've got think he and boris they've got more in common in that. well the comparatively i do think that donald trump saw more short term success did with success than boris did with regards to the economy anyway,

with the amount of growth that we've post—obama in such we've seen post—obama in such a short space of time, you know, one could argue compare tively in terms of how he's managed in the economy. anyway, he did a better job than joe biden. betterjob than joe biden. i mean, no one is really happy with joe biden at the moment. i think he has actually a lower approval rating than donald trump. gordon and has said, hang on, it was your view. say, why is this relevant to the uk? have you all forgotten about donald trump's scottish connection to the scots ? not my with joe the scots? not my with joe biden's irish passport goldens . biden's irish passport goldens. that's gordon's point . again, that's gordon's point. again, lots and lots of people getting in contact, likening again lots of you. this whole thing to bofis of you. this whole thing to boris johnson . it says, boris johnson. it says, michelle, you have hit the nail on the head. thank you. outsiders are not welcomed. i do want to maintain that. i think there's an element of this. i think politics, it's such a closed shop and i feel certainly

there is you know, you've got to be a certain kind of person to be a certain kind of person to be welcomed and accepted . gail be welcomed and accepted. gail says that she voted for donald trump in 2020 and she will definitely vote for him again . definitely vote for him again. thank.keep definitely vote for him again. thank. keep your thoughts. coming up after the break, i will be talking to nigel farage, by the way, he's got an entire hour dedicated to the donald trump situation. and i also want to bring back matters closer to home as well and ask you whether or not charles murderers should face the death penalty. they're going to ask, are you in tow? coming this week, a very coming up, this week, a very special gb news easter programme. we are invited during the short time to enter into the passion and death and resurrection of jesus christ . resurrection of jesus christ. it's an invitation to take part in the most important part of the christian life and explore the christian life and explore the meanings of charity and faith . happy easter. hallelujah. faith. happy easter. hallelujah. the meaning of easter. with me, the reverend calvin robinson. this week on gb news, the

people's channel, britain's news

channel hello there. donald trump is appearing in a manhattan court tonight called fast seven, approximately. our time. his lawyer says that he will plead not guilty to the charges. i quote very loudly indeed nigel farage will be covering it exclusively in his show at 7:00 tonight at nigel, a trump special . absolutely don't special. absolutely don't underestimate this. this is a moment of historical significance. never before has this been done to a former president. you know, in the past when they've been found guilty of campaign misreporting, they've received fines in the case of, say, bill clinton , when case of, say, bill clinton, when he lied under oath about monica

lewinsky , well, he got a pardon, lewinsky, well, he got a pardon, as did richard nixon. but in this case, no, the democrats and a very , very political a very, very political prosecution team and jury in new york are going after him . why york are going after him. why doesit york are going after him. why does it matter so much ? well, does it matter so much? well, this has the potential frankly to tear america apart. this has the potential frankly to tear america apart . and if to tear america apart. and if that happens, that the whole of the western world this isn't donald trump under trial . this donald trump under trial. this is america, the american due process and possibly , possibly , process and possibly, possibly, possibly even the whole ordering of civil society in america. the stakes are simply enormous . so stakes are simply enormous. so let me ask you this before i let you go. lots and lots of my viewers are writing in and they are saying that they see similarities with what's going on with trump . so what happens on with trump. so what happens of boris johnson ? what do you of boris johnson? what do you think that no boris johnson

faces no criminal charges whatsoever , ever? you know, he's whatsoever, ever? you know, he's been before parliamentary committee because he misled parliament. he admitted he misled parliament. whether he did it knowingly is the question . there is no comparison between that and the possibility of . an that and the possibility of. an american president to prison like that told my viewers, nigel farage, a trump special, 7:00 not going to work for that , not going to work for that, right? as a mum to a two year old, there is a story that sickened me today in this country. yet another child at this time, a two year old little girl murdered by the person that was supposed to protect her. i mean, want to start looking at some of the details of these cases? absolute glee. i could make me cry, actually. it really bnngsin make me cry, actually. it really brings in upsets , fury. i get so brings in upsets, fury. i get so frustrated when i read these kind of comments about social services is could they have done

more? we're going to learn a lessons. all the kind of tripe that i know will follow in the days and weeks to come. and it gets me thinking. dominic people debate and discuss the death penalty frequently, but when i hear cases like this, i do. i think it's time actually to bnng think it's time actually to bring back capital punishment for child murderers, the kind of people that take pleasure, it would appear, torturing children. look it's controversial , although with controversial, although with regards to the murder of children, i'm not really sure why it's controversial. and i've always held this view that if you murder a child and we know that you made the child, you admit to murder the child, does you know, this stack of evidence against you? well we know for certain that this sort of acts as well as rape of a child as well, has been committed. i think the capital punishment should indeed be a route that we consider and according to polling , if the consider and according to polling, if the public consider and according to polling , if the public actually polling, if the public actually agree with that as well, when we think about what prison is used

for, prisons should be a of rehabilitation for people , for rehabilitation for people, for them to sort of their crimes, learn from them and be released back into society. so that murders a child , someone that murders a child, someone that rapes and murders a child , for rapes and murders a child, for example. i know that's not the case with this particular one, but we hear about these instances all the time . i don't instances all the time. i don't think there really is a point rehabilitation for those people . and i think that we'd save a lot money, time and effort for the families that have to deal with these sorts of crimes themselves. the actual emotional effects of them. i think it'd be easier if these people just received capital punishment, in my opinion . yeah. the only thing my opinion. yeah. the only thing that makes me way for a little bit because i am quite resolute on this. i just don't want these people i think why people around. and i think why should i as taxpayer have to should i as a taxpayer have to fund the existence of these people? i think they're disgusting . lowest of the low disgusting. lowest of the low thatis disgusting. lowest of the low that is small power. and i don't think like this. james but then a small part is that there's a

little part of me that things actually get them in prison and make lives hell for as make their lives hell for as long as their miserable existence continues on this air. where do you stand on that? i understand . and the fury when understand. and the fury when you read about stories like this, that's i mean , absolutely. this, that's i mean, absolutely. and the details are absolutely horrible. but i think the focus shouldn't be on our fury. but what is going to make these kinds of things less likely to happen? and so you say social services could do more in this case, he's he's a heavy drug user. case, he's he's a heavy drug user . you know, that could be user. you know, that could be things that are done. that is domestic abuse. also in the picture in this case. so in all those things where people say this service have done more, that service could have done more. those really could have done more. and i think looking into those areas is going to make these cases, you know, less likely to happen . that might be likely to happen. that might be one too few or three fewer

one few too few or three fewer of these of these horrible cases. and so that's why, rather than , you know, maybe it feels than, you know, maybe it feels like a release to say, okay, fine , that's how we're going to fine, that's how we're going to deal with it. it's not going to be focusing actually on the lives like very, very lives of like very, very vulnerable . and that's you vulnerable. and that's what you do. that's the focus should be so. so first of all, it's like is it going to is it who's it for? and is it going to is it going to help? so if there isn't any evidence that it's going to make it less likely to happen and we should focusing on and we should be focusing on other think we should other things, i think we should do first. then there's do that first. then there's a set point about now we have got rid of capital punishment. should leave that leave should we just leave that leave that and not try bring that there and not try to bring back in whole institution and back in a whole institution and new rules around it all the rest of it? and on that point as well , that. no, let'sjust , i go on that. no, let's just leave. let's leave things where we are. we the punishment of life prison is a suitable life in prison is a suitable punishment for it, though . well, punishment for it, though. well, i mean, i think i don't i

struggle with i understand where you're coming from. and i think that would be so many complexities with regards to bringing back capital punishment . and there are some dangers . . and there are some dangers. so, for example , one might think so, for example, one might think that a terrorist deserves capital punishment. i personally don't agree with that because i think that the definition of terrorist can be changed over time. and it may be used against political opponents. for example . so i understand that there are complex tools with it, but at the same time , when i look at the same time, when i look at the same time, when i look at the idea of prison, i mean, what do you see? prisoners do you see it as a source of rebuilt station people that can be rehabilitated or not just punishment? i think as a very good question and i might open to you guys in the break as well as these back in the as to these guys back in the studio what is prison for in this day and age? what does anyone gain actually from keeping some of these people the lowest the low? i've got lowest of the low? i've got a two year old child and when i hear about a two year old child having 101 ailments, injuries to

her body, plus a catastrophic brain injury, if someone did that to my child, well , it's not that to my child, well, it's not suitable for television. what i'd do back to them. but why should we have to pay to keep them safe and well and fed and watered. and jim dope in prison. why what is the purpose of prison? that's dominique's question offer up and to you get in with gb views that in touch with gb views that gbnews.uk is how you reach me. tweet me michelle dewbs& co anywhere. give your answers anywhere. give me your answers and get through it. there's help for households. are you over state pension age? if your weekly income is below £182.60, or £278.70 if you live with a partner, you could be eligible for pension credit, even if you own your home or have savings. it's worth, on average, £3,500 a year and you could get help with heating bills and more, plus up to £900 in cost of living payments.

in two. hi, i'm michelle dewberry and i'm keeping you company right through till 7:00 tonight alongside me, dominique samuels and james schneider. keep me company . you are looking if company. you are looking if you're watching as opposed to listening anyway, you're looking live footage . donald trump, as

live footage. donald trump, as we've been following, he trump tower made his way over to the courthouse in manhattan where he has now been formally arrested . has now been formally arrested. of course, we knew this was going to happen. this is kind of due process going under way. but it is quite incredible . this is it is quite incredible. this is what we're talking about earlier on. it's first time us on. it's first time in us history a former president history that a former president will criminal charges . he will face criminal charges. he got out of the car, was waving to his supporters in true donald trump style , as apparently very trump style, as apparently very loudly going to say that is not guilty . loudly going to say that is not guilty. today's loudly going to say that is not guilty . today's what loudly going to say that is not guilty. today's what happens next. well, immediately he's going to be processed by the officials. it'll be fingerprint said having his mugshot taken and all the rest of it. and l.a. as well. the charges they'll actually be facing, of course , actually be facing, of course, we still don't know the details of all of that yet. it started of all of that yet. it started of course off the back of this accused is about hush money released stormy daniels i think it was back in 2006 that circled

the rumoured affair. and i think in terms of how he accounted for that money. that is one of the things that will be on the screw today like this. i mean really divided over in america. lots of people out on both sides actually the true from penzance is that the word for a truth trumpet was from fancy trump in. well i'm i'm referring to myself as a whole nz and so i think i'm just like overlaying the and bits james. schneider you said something that shocked me a little bit in the form of break. donald trump. what did you say? that donald trump is the best political communicator of his of his us generation . i of course, his us generation. i of course, don't agree with him almost everything, but i remember in the 2016 campaign when all these smug sort of establishment political commentators and figures were saying, well, you know, he doesn't know what he's doing. he speaks in a word. you don't know what he's what he's saying, of that stuff. and saying, all of that stuff. and actually, communicates

actually, he communicates incredibly he says incredibly well because he says things mad, bad side , you things like mad, bad side, you know, know what he you know know, you know what he you know what he means. he channels emotion extremely emotion and extremely effectively and if this doesn't and i mean , i haven't seen and i mean, i haven't seen anything of the charges that suggest is going to suggest that is going to politically knock him out. if it doesn't, it's going to make him stronger . doesn't, it's going to make him stronger. builds his victim stronger. it builds his victim narrative and it makes it all about him . and when he's able to about him. and when he's able to make it all about, he attracts a huge amounts of attention and he generates more support. and he's probably fundraising a lot off the back of this. i think that's what's quite curious about this because i mean, surely he's not the first or last politician in history to give people hush money but have few dirt on them. i mean , i can imagine i mean, i can imagine politicians do it all the time. yes, but there's rules . there's yes, but there's rules. there's rules that is about basically all the always they're always they're always applied for a select few people like us. look, you know, policy actions like

what bill clinton. hillary clinton , slippery. slippery. i clinton, slippery. slippery. i mean , the number of rumours that mean, the number of rumours that go around about them is anyone did any sort of proper investigation. you'd probably be able to find something or even slippery war criminal tony blair and how he managed to get manages to get with everything and is still able parade himself around with no sort of around smugly with no sort of retribution . it's just it's retribution. it's just it's always very selectively applied and i can imagine you probably think jeremy corbyn's similar being treated have been treated very badly . yeah, i of course very badly. yeah, i of course agree with that. and another outsider political figure , the outsider political figure, the thing that sort of annoys me about the it's not the rumours about the it's not the rumours about the it's not the rumours about the clintons say or trump's accounting that i bothered about. it's like said it's illegal wars , it's policies it's illegal wars, it's policies that have led to damaging people's lives . the politicians people's lives. the politicians should be held held accountable for that . no, that isn't you for that. no, that isn't you know, that isn't what that isn't what's happening at all. there's

been and it it goes beyond the politicians as well. it's also the powerful, you know, the most powerful people, society. and no one went to prison for the financial crisis. no one, there's been no criminal charges in any way, shape or form for anybody who took us into the illegal war in iraq. you know, the list of crimes that get committed against people in other countries and people in our own countries is very, very long. and, you know, those are not the people that we that we really see dragged through the courts their crimes. courts for their crimes. occasionally, might see, you occasionally, you might see, you know, trump, he's not know, donald trump, he's not done his campaign accountancy correctly or but you know, other crimes that are , you know, crimes that are, you know, substantially more significant you're not going to hear about. and that is what's going to work in his favour. his whole narrative about the swamp and in his perspective. this is the swamp literally in action . he's swamp literally in action. he's being persecuted, which is , i being persecuted, which is, i think, sort of a gift to him. i don't believe anything substantial is actually going to

happen with this. i think it's a bit of theatre, if i'm being honest, but it's actually a gift to him because we were discussing ron desantis and how i'm wondering if we are in an era more so the clean cut politician now just look at like rishi sunak compared to boris johnson . i mean, i can't stand johnson. i mean, i can't stand the man, but in terms of his communication, there's clearly something that happened there where he was able to communicate with people, especially those that are working class, like in the red wall, for example . and the red wall, for example. and then, you know , go back to rishi then, you know, go back to rishi sunak. he's like the exact opposite. and then go to ron desantis. he is more of the sort of polished politician. and i'm wondering if sort of the era of donald trump style of communication is maybe over. i think even with regard to jeremy corbyn, like he was less polished than keir starmer, for example , who is probably going example, who is probably going to win the next general section by default because the tories

have imploded and everyone is worse off than they were when the tories came to pound. they've been in for a very long time. you know, there's been a hole because keir starmer has now been leader for three years. so they've done polling on how he's and labour's he's doing and labour's big polling. is not polling. what they have is not because go, oh you know, because people go, oh you know, he's wonderful, polished he's this wonderful, polished, charismatic, politician charismatic, exciting politician with lots of good policies that l, with lots of good policies that i, i want. i mean at the moment actually if you look at british politics, we see political class that has really no answer . the that has really no answer. the big problems that we're facing . big problems that we're facing. and so it's a kind of parade of pygmies . you know, we can't we pygmies. you know, we can't we don't have you know, we have the leadership . and maybe that is leadership. and maybe that is actually what works now because we're all so disaffected , we're we're all so disaffected, we're all so bold, really. i think lot of us have political fatigue , of us have political fatigue, especially after the politics of the pandemic really and how that all played out and how it affected people's lives . maybe, affected people's lives. maybe, you know , the fatigue that we

you know, the fatigue that we have actually with politics and with voting actually in their favour , people like keir favour, people like keir starmer, people like rishi sunak and maybe people like ron desantis, although you like him, don't. yeah, you know, i do. i there's something i like coming through something personal. if you'll just joining us, you're wondering what enough is going on. i donald trump has you know , left trump tower has made his way over to the courthouse where he's now arrived , has been he's now arrived, has been formally arrested . we're seeing formally arrested. we're seeing lots of the loitering that lots of the security detail. i mean, security is absolute , immense, security is absolute, immense, as you would imagine , by the as you would imagine, by the way. and there'll be a lot of disappoint in people, of course, because cameras will not be allowed in that court room. so you won't be seeing what's going on in the what's going to happen now? well, as i said, formerly arrested is now going to have his fingerprints taken love, his mugshot taken. we've heard from his lawyer that he will very loudly quote and his not guilty

plea . and then, you probably be plea. and then, you probably be released on bail and head back to mar—a—lago in florida. released on bail and head back to mar—a—lago in florida . some to mar—a—lago in florida. some suggesting he might hold a news conference there as well. nigel farage be doing a whole hour on this. let me bring in you guys at home, if i may. lots of feeling coming in tonight for many of you at home saying again that you feel like this is a witch hunt. democrats have been hounding at trump since the day he was elected , said all he was elected, said all politicians lie, says melanie. good. trust me, that's not a great thing. many of you saying, well, that's actually i've just lost your name, but you was just in touch then saying, wouldn't it be brilliant if the uk had our own donald trump's and make britain great again? and alan says, be clear. one thing is for sure putin would never have dared to invade ukraine and behave the way that he has. if trump was in power. i think that's quite an interesting

point that you make, alan, joining us now live from new york, we've got darren mccaffrey. darren good evening to you . i know michelle, very to you. i know michelle, very good evening from new york. afternoon time here. it is now official that donald trump has formally been arrested the first time a former or current us president has ever been indicted for a criminal offence . he is a for a criminal offence. he is a little way down manhattan now at manhattan's criminal court where he's expected in court room 15 within the next 30 minutes or so, where he will be formally read out the charge sheet against him. we're going totally sure of the detail of that charge sheets. he could range from simply one offence up to maybe 13 or more offences. there are reports today that it could be up to 34 definitive offences that donald trump could be charged with indicted , if you charged with indicted, if you like , and on the way to that like, and on the way to that courthouse as he left trump's

trump tower here in the last hour or so, he took to the social media platform saying that it was was surreal. they're going to arrest me. i can't believe it's happening in america. make america, great again. so he will make that court appearance is expected, michelle to be space of around 15 minutes or so he is going to plead not guilty we're told very loudly plead not guilty by his they may well say awarded as he goesin they may well say awarded as he goes in to the courtroom. we know that there are no cameras in court, so we're not likely to see him in the room itself, although all cameras just outside the courtroom and then when the procedure is over, he is free to go, he will be placed on bail and he's going to fly back down to florida. it's a monologue where he's going to address his supporters later on tonight . address his supporters later on tonight. thanks for that update , darren. lots and lots of you still at which mentality is coming through thick and fast .

coming through thick and fast. donald trump, junior, by the way, was looking as sweet a second ago. he tweeted earlier on today , my father, president on today, my father, president trump , is expected to be around trump, is expected to be around 215 today. sign the petition to defend the constitution's , stop defend the constitution's, stop the political persecution of president trump and the other political persecution that this will open the door for in the future. enough he says. that's donald trump junior says. if donald trump junior says. if donald trump junior says. if donald trump said he wouldn't run for president again, would any of this be happen, be happening? no, he says it would all be long forgotten. who's this? karen saying? nigel farage said that there's a complete difference between trump and boris. difference between trump and bofis.the difference between trump and boris. the fact is, yes, it might be different circumstances , but ultimately the witch hunt continues. this is many of you as well saying that the republican party needs donald trump. they need him to continue to get the focus on him. and so

many people. i mean, i can't stress this . this is galvanising stress this. this is galvanising dominic and we've just been touching upon this. and it is galvanising the support for donald trump would always kind of rail so—called against the establishment. so when you see all of this, you can guess he's right. they support him more and it also going back to sort of what started this whole thing in the first place, which was the so—called insider action at the at the capitol after the last election where donald trump denied that he had lost. it does bnng denied that he had lost. it does bring people back to that and it makes people think , i mean, was makes people think, i mean, was the election genuine? why are they so desperate to have him silenced? it just helps him. well i'll tell you who is about to be silenced. may look at the time flies is dominic and time it flies is dominic and james. thank you. donald trump trumps my agenda tonight so we did so well. let's pick up on some of those topics another day. but for now, night. nigel farage, i shall hand you over to. he has got a programme exclu

simply devoted to the goings of donald trump. do not go anywhere good evening and thank you, michelle. well, the events that are taking place as we speak, all manhattan island, new york , all manhattan island, new york, are indeed historic. never before in the history of the usa as a serving or former president ever been served with criminal charges . it nearly happened back charges. it nearly happened back in the 1970s with richard nixon. he was literally on the verge of receiving a criminal prosecution when he stood down, resigned as president and was then subsequently pardoned . and you subsequently pardoned. and you might remember that bill clinton got into a huge amount of difficulty over monica lewinsky and the lies that he told. he even lied under oath