in the early hours of this morning, donald trump responded to his arrest in a new york courtroom yesterday . we've had courtroom yesterday. we've had time to reflect— courtroom yesterday. we've had time to reflect tonight. - to- : we've had time to reflect tonight. we debate— time to reflect tonight. we debate and— time to reflect tonight. we debate and ask— time to reflect tonight. we debate and ask the question, is trump— debate and ask the question, is trump being— debate and ask the question, is trump being wronged? we go live to mm— trump being wronged? we go live to mm on— trump being wronged? we go live to bexhill on sea— trump being wronged? we go live to bexhill on sea in— trump being wronged? we go live to bexhill on sea in east sussex— to bexhill on sea in east sussex, where- to bexhill on sea in east sussex, where he was. the protest— sussex, where he was. the pretest going— sussex, where he was. the protest going on against a proposed— protest going on against a proposed migrant camp on the day— proposed migrant camp on the tey thet— proposed migrant camp on the same day that a— proposed migrant camp on the same day that a barge is announced— same day that a barge is announced for- same day that a barge is announced for portland. we'll tet— announced for portland. we'll ask about— announced for portland. we'll ask about the _ announced for portland. we'll ask about the numbers. we'll ask wttttn— ask about the numbers. we'll ask wttttn e— ask about the numbers. we'll ask wttttn a tee— ask about the numbers. we'll ask within a few weeks.— ask about the numbers. we'll ask within a few weeks. where on earth— within a few weeks. where on earth-att— within a few weeks. where on eettt-eu gette- within a few weeks. where on earth all going to go? earth are they all going to go? ant—en— earth are they all going to go? and—on talking- earth are they all going to go? and on talking pints and joining me on talking pints terme— and joining me on talking pints teeter—tec- and joining me on talking pints former—bbc racing| former jump jockey, bbc racing eemmeneett— former jump jockey, bbc racing commentator and— former jump jockey, bbc racing commentator and a man who's got the tee— commentator and a man who's got the tee tee— commentator and a man who's got the tee ttpe tet— commentator and a man who's got the top tips for the— commentator and a man who's got the top tips for the national in a tee— the top tips for the national in a tee tate— the top tips for the national in a few days time,— the top tips for the national in a few days time, richard pitman wttt— a few days time, richard pitman wttt join—

a few days time, richard pitman wttt join-0n— a few days time, richard pitman will join on talking pines. will join me on talking pines. eut— will join me on talking pines. tut tetete— will join me on talking pines. but before all— will join me on talking pines. but before all of— will join me on talking pines. but before all of that, let's get— but before all of that, let's get-newe— but before all of that, let's get - news with - but before all of that, let's get news with arron get the news with arron armstrong— get the news with arron armstrong .— get the news with arron armstrong . hi there. yes, i'm armstrong. hi there. yes, i'm aeron— armstrong. hi there. yes, i'm aaron armstrong— armstrong. hi there. yes, i'm aaron armstrong in the gb newsroom. c: " g aaron armstrong in the gb newsroom. c: g aaron armstrong in the gb - newsroom. good evening to you. the prime minister has defended plans to house asylum seekers on a barge in dorset, claiming it will save the taxpayer millions of pounds every year. the government's confirmed a deal has been signed despite the threat legal challenge from threat of a legal challenge from the council and the local district council and tory mps . the bibby stockholm, tory mps. the bibby stockholm, which can accommodate around 500 people, will provide basic but functional facilities and a round the clock security . round the clock security. amnesty international has labelled it ministerial cruelty, which is obscuring the government's mismanagement of the asylum system. but rishi sunak says it's a fair approach to tackling illegal migration. we're spending as a country £6 million a day housing this illegal asylum seekers in in hotels that can't be right. i've committed to reducing that

number— i've committed to reducing that number, moving— i've committed to reducing that number, moving asylum seekers out number, moving asylum seekers eut et— number, moving asylum seekers but et noteb— number, moving asylum seekers out of hotels, and— number, moving asylum seekers out of hotels, and that means we meet— out of hotels, and that means we meet te— out of hotels, and that means we meet to fine— out of hotels, and that means we need to find alternative sites ent— need to find alternative sites and including— need to find alternative sites and including barges like the one we've brought brought ternurt— one we've brought brought forward today— one we've brought brought forward today that's going to tne— forward today that's going to save the taxpayer money, reduce pressure on hotels— save the taxpayer money, reduce pressure on hotels . \r f pressure on hotels. nicola sturgeon's husband, peter murrell, has been arrested in connection with an investigation into scottish national party finances . detectives have been finances. detectives have been searching the party's headquarters collects evidence and a cordon has been set up outside the couple's home. police scotland has been looking into the spending of around £600,000, set aside for the independence campaign . mr. independence campaign. mr. murrell resigned as the party's chief executive last month and scotland's first minister humza yousaf says is there cooperating with the police . people will with the police. people will neve— with the police. people will have questions— with the police. people will have questions ._ rat: people will have questions . they will have. have questions. they will have. tnere— have questions. they will have. tnere utt— have questions. they will have. there will be— have questions. they will have. there will be some concerns. our party— there will be some concerns. our nutty memberentn— there will be some concerns. our nutty memberentn .— there will be some concerns. our party membership , of course, party membership, of course, utt— party membership, of course, nttt neve— party membership, of course, will have concerns too. so what i will have concerns too. so what . eun— will have concerns too. so what . eemmtt— will have concerns too. so what i can commit to— will have concerns too. so what i can commit to is— will have concerns too. so what i can commit to is party teeters. — i can commit to is party leaders. we— i can commit to is party leaders. we want to be absolutely— leaders. we want to be absolutely transparent. that's why— absolutely transparent. that's nnu ._

absolutely transparent. that's why r estee— absolutely transparent. that's why i asked nick— absolutely transparent. that's why i asked nick to agree to a review around— why i asked nick to agree to a review around governance and transparency— review around governance and transparency and— review around governance and transparency and also to make rt— transparency and also to make tt nee— transparency and also to make sure it has some— transparency and also to make sure it has some external input, unten— sure it has some external input, unten ._ sure it has some external input, unten . tntnt— sure it has some external input, which i think is— sure it has some external input, which i think is really, really tmnertunt. — which i think is really, really tmnertunt. 2t— which i think is really, really important. i?" which i think is really, really important. i? important. 21 people have been convicted of sexual offences against seven children in walsall who were younger than 12 when they were abused . west when they were abused. west midlands police say the offences were committed over a period of almost ten years. three trials have been held over the past 15 months with reporting restrictions in place until their conclusion. the offenders will be sentenced next month and the chair of the blood inquiry says compensation for victims should be extended as some family members remain unread . family members remain unread. cognised thousands of patients were infected with hiv and hepatitis c through contaminated food products in the 1970s and 80 doddie last year. the inquiry recommended victims or their bereaved partners should receive an interim payment of £100,000. and it's now urging the government to widen the scheme to include orphan children and

parents who lost children . tv parents who lost children. tv online dab+ radio and on tunein. this is gb news. now it's back to . to. nigel well, to. nigel- . well, after to. meet— . well, after those to. nigel well, after those dramatic events - well, after those dramatic events yesterday _ . well, after those dramatic events yesterday that- well, after those dramatic events yesterday that we covered live events yesterday that we covered true-en — events yesterday that we covered true-en tnte— events yesterday that we covered live-on this-of- events yesterday that we covered live on this of trump live here on this show of trump betne— live here on this show of trump being arrested— live here on this show of trump being arrested and— live here on this show of trump being arrested and charged in a ten— being arrested and charged in a ten vert— being arrested and charged in a new york courthouse , it was his new york courthouse, it was his turn— new york courthouse, it was his turn te— new york courthouse, it was his turn to respond,— new york courthouse, it was his turn to respond, which he did at 1:15 turn to respond, which he did at nb um— turn to respond, which he did at nb ur— turn to respond, which he did at 1:15 am. our time— turn to respond, which he did at 1:15 am. our time in the buttreem— 1:15 am. our time in the ballroom at,— 1:15 am. our time in the ballroom at, of- 1:15 am. our time in the ballroom at, of course, mar a tree.— ballroom at, of course, mar a lagor tterttu— ballroom at, of course, mar a lagor tterttu .— ballroom at, of course, mar a lago, florida . he— ballroom at, of course, mar a lago, florida . he spoke for 25 lago, florida. he spoke for 25 mtnutee— lago, florida. he spoke for 25 minutes. here— lago, florida. he spoke for 25 minutes. here are— lago, florida. he spoke for 25 minutes. here are just some of me— minutes. here are just some of tbe ntgnttgnte— minutes. here are just some of tbe ntgnttgnte .— minutes. here are just some of the highlights . and i never the highlights. and i never tneuent— the highlights. and i never thought anything like this could nunnen— thought anything like this could nunnen tn— thought anything like this could happen in america . \tbiiltbiil” g happen in america. never thought it could happen . the only crime it could happen. the only crime that i have committed is to fearlessly defend our nation from those who seek to destroy it . from the beginning, the

it. from the beginning, the democrats spy on my campaign. remember that they attacked me with an onslaught of fraudulent investigations on russia, russia, russia , ukraine, russia, russia, ukraine, ukraine, ukraine. an impeachment hoax number one impeachment hoax . number two, the illegal and unconstitutional raid on mar a lago right here. and just recently, the fbi and do] lago right here. and just recently, the fbi and d0] in collusion with twitter and facebook hack in order not to say anything bad about the hunter biden laptop from hell, which exposes the biden family as criminals in which, according to the pollsters, would have made a 17 point difference in the election result . right. and the election result. right. and we needed a lot less than that. like about 16.9, it would have

beenin like about 16.9, it would have been in our favour. not my favour. our favour because our country is going to hell . favour. our favour because our country is going to hell. in well, that's a flavour of what benutt— well, that's a flavour of what benutt trump— well, that's a flavour of what donald trump had to say. the country— donald trump had to say. the country te— donald trump had to say. the country be borne— donald trump had to say. the country is going to hell. thev've_ country is going to hell. they've been- country is going to hell. they've been against me from day tntteee— they've been against me from day one. endless investigation ins. ant— one. endless investigation ins. ant et— one. endless investigation ins. and of course— one. endless investigation ins. and of course he— one. endless investigation ins. and of course he mentions hunter btten— and of course he mentions hunter btten. but— and of course he mentions hunter biden. but what— and of course he mentions hunter biden. but what i— and of course he mentions hunter biden. but what i said to you yesterday— biden. but what i said to you yeetertuy wee— biden. but what i said to you yesterday was that former bmerteun— yesterday was that former american presidents have done some dreadful— american presidents have done some dreadful things, but tneu-re— some dreadful things, but they've always— some dreadful things, but they've always been pardoned. tnte— they've always been pardoned. me te— they've always been pardoned. me be te— they've always been pardoned. this is to remind— they've always been pardoned. this is to remind you, the first ttme— this is to remind you, the first ttme eer— this is to remind you, the first ttme e— this is to remind you, the first time ever a serving or former nreettent— time ever a serving or former nreettent nee— time ever a serving or former president has received criminal entrees— president has received criminal entrees .— president has received criminal entrees . se— president has received criminal energee . so be— president has received criminal charges . so is he— president has received criminal charges. so is he is it a case tnet— charges. so is he is it a case but benett— charges. so is he is it a case that donald trump has finally been— that donald trump has finally been euuent— that donald trump has finally been caught out— that donald trump has finally been caught out for his crimes unt— been caught out for his crimes and me— been caught out for his crimes and his dishonesty? or is it trump— and his dishonesty? or is it trumn being— and his dishonesty? or is it trump being wrong ? and i have to trump being wrong? and i have to say tt— trump being wrong? and i have to say tt te— trump being wrong? and i have to say bt be me— trump being wrong? and i have to say it is the completely unequal unntbeutben— say it is the completely unequal unntbeutben et— say it is the completely unequal application of the— say it is the completely unequal application of the law in bmerbeu— application of the law in america that— application of the law in america that says to me there is eemetnbne— america that says to me there is eemetnbng very— america that says to me there is something very wrong here. it is

the something very wrong here. it is be teet— something very wrong here. it is be teet eut— something very wrong here. it is the fact out that— something very wrong here. it is the fact out that the prosecutor . tne — the fact out that the prosecutor . tne mun— the fact out that the prosecutor , the man himself,— the fact out that the prosecutor , the man himself, alvin bragg in , the man himself, alvin bragg bn ben— , the man himself, alvin bragg bn uen verb.— , the man himself, alvin bragg in new york, was— , the man himself, alvin bragg in new york, was elected as a bemeerut— in new york, was elected as a democrat, prosecute with a brembee— democrat, prosecute with a nrembee tnet— democrat, prosecute with a promise that he— democrat, prosecute with a promise that he would get trump. and promise that he would get trump. ant tnere— promise that he would get trump. ant tnere re— promise that he would get trump. and there are other— promise that he would get trump. and there are other possible indictments— and there are other possible indictments coming from georgia and elsewhere.— indictments coming from georgia and elsewhere. again all from bemeerete— and elsewhere. again all from bemeerete .— and elsewhere. again all from bemeerete. b— and elsewhere. again all from democrats . i think the american democrats. i think the american butbebet— democrats. i think the american butbebut eretem— democrats. i think the american judicial system has an absolutely— judicial system has an absolutely fundamental flaw in it. absolutely fundamental flaw in bt. tt— absolutely fundamental flaw in bt. bt be— absolutely fundamental flaw in it. it is massively— absolutely fundamental flaw in it. it is massively , overly it. it is massively, overly politicised. _ it. it is massively, overly politicised. it's- it. it is massively, overly politicised. it's not serving a geot— politicised. it's not serving a geet nurneee— politicised. it's not serving a good purpose anymore. and i berry— good purpose anymore. and i merry tnut— good purpose anymore. and i worry that people will lose eembtete— worry that people will lose complete faith,— worry that people will lose complete faith, trust and confidence _ complete faith, trust and confidence in— complete faith, trust and confidence in it. and if they do nett— confidence in it. and if they do nett .— confidence in it. and if they do nett . tneu— confidence in it. and if they do nett . tney mav— confidence in it. and if they do well , they may well then decide well, they may well then decide to well, they may well then decide te tute— well, they may well then decide to tube tnbnee— well, they may well then decide to take things into— well, they may well then decide to take things into their own bante— to take things into their own nunte .— to take things into their own hands , which— to take things into their own hands , which is— to take things into their own hands , which is not what we hands, which is not what we went. — hands, which is not what we want. me— hands, which is not what we want. the reason— hands, which is not what we want. the reason we have temeerueu— want. the reason we have temeerueu be— want. the reason we have democracy is so- want. the reason we have democracy is so that we can agree— democracy is so that we can agree te— democracy is so that we can agree to disagree, but to do so in agree to disagree, but to do so bn u— agree to disagree, but to do so bn u neeeetut— agree to disagree, but to do so in a peaceful and— agree to disagree, but to do so in a peaceful and relatively ebrbtbeet— in a peaceful and relatively civilised environment , certainly civilised environment, certainly nbtnbn— civilised environment, certainly ubtnbn tne— civilised environment, certainly within the republican party. trump-e— within the republican party. trump's status— within the republican party. trump's status has improved nugetu— trump's status has improved nugetu .— trump's status has improved hugely . be— trump's status has improved hugely . be true— trump's status has improved hugely . he was marginally ahead hugely. he was marginally ahead of hugely. he was marginally ahead et ten— hugely. he was marginally ahead of ron desantis_ hugely. he was marginally ahead of ron desantis in— hugely. he was marginally ahead of ron desantis in the polls for une— of ron desantis in the polls for nne eneutt— of ron desantis in the polls for who should be— of ron desantis in the polls for who should be the— of ron desantis in the polls for who should be the next presidential—

who should be the next presidential candidate . but he presidential candidate. but he is presidential candidate. but he be new— presidential candidate. but he be mbtee— presidential candidate. but he is now miles ahead of ron besuntbe— is now miles ahead of ron desantis and— is now miles ahead of ron desantis and anybody else that eeutt— desantis and anybody else that could potentially— desantis and anybody else that could potentially enter this be— could potentially enter this race. is trump— could potentially enter this race. is trump being wronged? ebre— race. is trump being wronged? be me— race. is trump being wronged? be me your— race. is trump being wronged? give me your thoughts and your meme.— give me your thoughts and your views, please. farage at gb news dot views, please. farage at gb news tet um— views, please. farage at gb news tet ut. ant— views, please. farage at gb news dot uk. and we're— views, please. farage at gb news dot uk. and we're going to have on tne— dot uk. and we're going to have on over the course— dot uk. and we're going to have on over the course of this program— on over the course of this program .— on over the course of this program . rue-re- on over the course of this program , we're going to have on program, we're going to have on neepte— program, we're going to have on peopler rue-re— program, we're going to have on people, we're going to have on tuuuere— people, we're going to have on tunyere — people, we're going to have on lawyers, we're going to have on eermnenuerett — lawyers, we're going to have on commentators. but— lawyers, we're going to have on commentators. but what i have netbeeb— commentators. but what i have netbeet. unet— commentators. but what i have noticed, what i— commentators. but what i have noticed, what i have noticed, you— noticed, what i have noticed, you know.— noticed, what i have noticed, you know. we— noticed, what i have noticed, you know, we saw it last night nbtn— you know, we saw it last night nbtn beobte— you know, we saw it last night with people coming on to this enou— with people coming on to this enon. wnot— with people coming on to this enon. that b— with people coming on to this show. what i have noticed it is mere— show. what i have noticed it is tnere re— show. what i have noticed it is there are many— show. what i have noticed it is there are many on— show. what i have noticed it is there are many on that wing of there are many on that wing of the republican— there are many on that wing of the republican party that don't bombeutorty— the republican party that don't particularly like— the republican party that don't particularly like donald trump. i'm particularly like donald trump. b-m tnbntbne— particularly like donald trump. i'm thinking particularly of the uten— i'm thinking particularly of the utah senator— i'm thinking particularly of the utah senator and— i'm thinking particularly of the utah senator and former presidential— utah senator and former presidential candidate mitt btomney— presidential candidate mitt btomney. ant— presidential candidate mitt romney. and people like alan bereboubte— romney. and people like alan dershowitz, the _ romney. and people like alan dershowitz, the lawyer who was on me— dershowitz, the lawyer who was on tnbe enou— dershowitz, the lawyer who was on this show last— dershowitz, the lawyer who was on this show last night, a tbtetone— on this show last night, a lifelong democrat voter opposed to moet— lifelong democrat voter opposed to moet ot— lifelong democrat voter opposed to most of donald— lifelong democrat voter opposed to most of donald trump's bobbebee— to most of donald trump's bobbebee .— to most of donald trump's policies , but— to most of donald trump's policies , but saying that what policies, but saying that what is policies, but saying that what be bobbenbng— policies, but saying that what is happening here simply isn't nont— is happening here simply isn't rbent .— is happening here simply isn't rbent . bt-e— is happening here simply isn't rbgnt . be not— is happening here simply isn't right . it's not within the right. it's not within the ebbrbt— right. it's not within the ebbrbt ot— right. it's not within the spirit of the— right. it's not within the spirit of the american constitution. - spirit of the american constitution. it doesn't observe

tue— constitution. it doesn't observe tue broeee— constitution. it doesn't observe due process. and— constitution. it doesn't observe due process. and that it's a bad tnbne— due process. and that it's a bad tnbne tor— due process. and that it's a bad thing for america. _ due process. and that it's a bad thing for america. and i tell you— thing for america. and i tell you robot.— thing for america. and i tell you what, what's— thing for america. and i tell you what, what's bad for america is you what, what's bad for america be oteo— you what, what's bad for america be oteo bot— you what, what's bad for america is also bad for— you what, what's bad for america is also bad for western civilisation— is also bad for western civilisation nation. all of that to tone— civilisation nation. all of that to come later. _ civilisation nation. all of that to come later. next up, we're going— to come later. next up, we're going to— to come later. next up, we're gobng to go— to come later. next up, we're gobng to go bye— to come later. next up, we're going to go live to bexhill in teet— going to go live to bexhill in beet suee— going to go live to bexhill in east sussex, where a planned meetbng— east sussex, where a planned meetbng ot— east sussex, where a planned meeting of the— east sussex, where a planned meeting of the council has been eoneettet— meeting of the council has been cancelled for— meeting of the council has been cancelled for fear— meeting of the council has been cancelled for fear of protests . cancelled for fear of protests. s cancelled for fear of protests. s but— cancelled for fear of protests. s but be — cancelled for fear of protests. s but the protests are taking btoee— s but the protests are taking place anywhere— s but the protests are taking place anywhere anyway . we'll be place anywhere anyway. we'll be in place anywhere anyway. we'll be bn bexnbtt— place anywhere anyway. we'll be bn bexnbtt tn— place anywhere anyway. we'll be in bexhill in a— place anywhere anyway. we'll be in bexhill in a couple of mbnutee— in bexhill in a couple of mbnutee .—

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so some of your thoughts. has trump— so some of your thoughts. has brumb been— so some of your thoughts. has trump been wronged is the gueetbon— trump been wronged is the question that— trump been wronged is the question that i— trump been wronged is the question that i asked you . one question that i asked you. one eoye— question that i asked you. one viewer says trump being wronged is viewer says trump being wronged be emott— viewer says trump being wronged is small potatoes— viewer says trump being wronged is small potatoes compared to unet— is small potatoes compared to mm tnbe— is small potatoes compared to what this actually symbolises is the what this actually symbolises is be beme— what this actually symbolises is the dems obsession with trump nbtt— the dems obsession with trump will embolden— the dems obsession with trump will embolden america's enemies . webb.— will embolden america's enemies . webb. tnot— will embolden america's enemies . webb. tnot may—

will embolden america's enemies . well, that may well be true . . well, that may well be true. ant— . well, that may well be true. ant ne— . well, that may well be true. ant be goee— . well, that may well be true. and he goes on— . well, that may well be true. and he goes on to— . well, that may well be true. and he goes on to say , remember and he goes on to say, remember the and he goes on to say, remember me eombtetety— and he goes on to say, remember the completely avoidable , the completely avoidable, unnecessary biden led disaster in afghanistan?— unnecessary biden led disaster in afghanistan? and i repeat the room— in afghanistan? and i repeat the bobnt b— in afghanistan? and i repeat the bobnt b mote— in afghanistan? and i repeat the point i made yesterday. great civilisations_ point i made yesterday. great civilisations and— point i made yesterday. great civilisations and empires tnrougn— civilisations and empires tnrougn tne— civilisations and empires through the history of mankind tent— through the history of mankind tent to— through the history of mankind tent to tott— through the history of mankind tend to fall because of conflicts _ tend to fall because of conflicts from within rather tnon— conflicts from within rather than conflicts— conflicts from within rather than conflicts from without. and i than conflicts from without. and b ebon— than conflicts from without. and b reton tn— than conflicts from without. and i reckon in beijing— than conflicts from without. and i reckon in beijing yesterday tney— i reckon in beijing yesterday tney ere— i reckon in beijing yesterday they were laughing their socks off. they were laughing their socks ott. sbmon— they were laughing their socks off. simon says— they were laughing their socks off. simon says no , he hasn't off. simon says no, he hasn't been— off. simon says no, he hasn't been nronget— off. simon says no, he hasn't been wronged but doesn't add any to— been wronged but doesn't add any to mm— been wronged but doesn't add any to mm .— been wronged but doesn't add any more to that . deborah says more to that. deborah says enometut— more to that. deborah says shameful what— more to that. deborah says shameful what they are doing to trump— shameful what they are doing to trump definite— shameful what they are doing to trump definite albie a witch bunt— trump definite albie a witch nunt ont— trump definite albie a witch hunt and stephen has a constructive— hunt and stephen has a constructive suggestion which i do constructive suggestion which i to not— constructive suggestion which i to not tnbnt— constructive suggestion which i do not think is— constructive suggestion which i do not think is going to be totem— do not think is going to be totem un— do not think is going to be taken up. biden has said he wont— taken up. biden has said he won't come to— taken up. biden has said he won't come to the coronation , won't come to the coronation, but— won't come to the coronation, but stebnen— won't come to the coronation, but stephen suggests that trump enoutt— but stephen suggests that trump should represent— but stephen suggests that trump should represent the usa at the eoronton — should represent the usa at the eoronton b— should represent the usa at the coronation. i don't— should represent the usa at the coronation. i don't think prince cnortee— coronation. i don't think prince charles really— coronation. i don't think prince charles really wants that, or tbng— charles really wants that, or tbng enortee— charles really wants that, or king charles, rather really wante— king charles, rather really nonte tnot. — king charles, rather really wants that. and i can't see it bobbenbng.— wants that. and i can't see it bobbenbng. so— wants that. and i can't see it bobbenbng. so o— wants that. and i can't see it happening. so a big day on mbgront— happening. so a big day on migrant stories.— happening. so a big day on migrant stories. before we go to bexnbtt— migrant stories. before we go to bexnbtt .— migrant stories. before we go to bexnbtt . tet— migrant stories. before we go to bexhill , let me— migrant stories. before we go to bexhill , let me just show you

bexhill, let me just show you tootoge— bexhill, let me just show you some footage that i had not seen betore— some footage that i had not seen betore. bt-e— some footage that i had not seen before. it's albanian footage trom — before. it's albanian footage trom o— before. it's albanian footage from a beach— before. it's albanian footage from a beach in— before. it's albanian footage from a beach in the north of treme— from a beach in the north of tronee yuet— from a beach in the north of france. just have— from a beach in the north of france. just have a look at this . bt-e— france. just have a look at this . bt-e tootbng— france. just have a look at this . it's looking over— france. just have a look at this . it's looking over to la palma . vou— . it's looking over to la palma . you see— . it's looking over to la palma . you see no crime- . it's looking over to la palma . you see no crime found, no company property. nana rikki neave. star nana . so last year neave. star nana. so last year when i neave. star nana. so last year wnen b woe— neave. star nana. so last year wnen b tn— neave. star nana. so last year when i was in the— miami; m5“? so last year when i was in the channel, we monoget— when i was in the channel, we monoget to— when i was in the channel, we managed to film _ when i was in the channel, we managed to film people throwing tnebr— managed to film people throwing their iphones,_ managed to film people throwing their iphones, phones and their toeumente— their iphones, phones and their documents into— their iphones, phones and their documents into the english cnonnet.— documents into the english channel. nobody had seen that betore— channel. nobody had seen that betore. wnot— channel. nobody had seen that before. what you're seeing there are before. what you're seeing there oreon-t— before. what you're seeing there oreon-t tnot— before. what you're seeing there are-and that is- are people and that is albanians,— are people and that is albanians, because it's albanian muebe— albanians, because it's albanian ont— albanians, because it's albanian music and words— albanians, because it's albanian music and words and they're burnbng— music and words and they're burning their— music and words and they're burning their rucksacks, they're burnbng — burning their rucksacks, they're burnbng ott— burning their rucksacks, they're burning all their— burning their rucksacks, they're burning all their documents betore— burning all their documents betore tney— burning all their documents before they make the crossing. ant— before they make the crossing. ant tnbe— before they make the crossing. ant we be— before they make the crossing. and this is the— before they make the crossing. and this is the point. it isn't buet— and this is the point. it isn't buet torge— and this is the point. it isn't just large numbers of young motee— just large numbers of young males coming— just large numbers of young males coming into the country. it's males coming into the country. bt-e torge— males coming into the country. it's large numbers— males coming into the country. it's large numbers of undocubus rentet— it's large numbers of undocubus rentet young— it's large numbers of undocubus rented young males who we can't meet— rented young males who we can't oneet tor— rented young males who we can't check for previous— rented young males who we can't check for previous criminal reeoret— check for previous criminal records or anything else. now, rav— records or anything else. now, btoy attbeon— records or anything else. now, ray addison is— records or anything else. now, ray addison is our south—east of

tngtont. — ray addison is our south—east of england. reporter— ray addison is our south—east of england. reporter for former hm brbeon— england. reporter for former hm brbeon wortn— england. reporter for former hm prison north high, just outside bexnbtt— prison north high, just outside bexnbtt noe— prison north high, just outside bexhill has been— prison north high, just outside bexhill has been put down on a list bexhill has been put down on a bet to— bexhill has been put down on a bet to tote— bexhill has been put down on a list to take 1200— bexhill has been put down on a list to take 1200 young men. bnere— list to take 1200 young men. bnere woe— list to take 1200 young men. there was due— list to take 1200 young men. there was due to— list to take 1200 young men. there was due to be a council meetbng— there was due to be a council meeting tonight— there was due to be a council meeting tonight about it. it's been— meeting tonight about it. it's been cancelled,— meeting tonight about it. it's been cancelled, but ray addison is been cancelled, but ray addison be tnere— been cancelled, but ray addison be tnere wbtn— been cancelled, but ray addison is there with a— been cancelled, but ray addison is there with a crowd of broteetere. — is there with a crowd of protesters. anyway, ray , tell protesters. anyway, ray, tell us. protesters. anyway, ray, tell b— protesters. anyway, ray, tell b b— protesters. anyway, ray, tell us. i mean, i understand the meetbnge— us. i mean, i understand the meetings being— us. i mean, i understand the meetings being cancelled, but etbtt— meetings being cancelled, but etbtt beobte— meetings being cancelled, but still people have— meetings being cancelled, but still people have turned up . still people have turned up. toot.— still people have turned up. veob. tne— still people have turned up. yeah, the town _ still people have turned up. yeah, the town council- still people have turned up. yeah, the town council may have cancelled. cancelled the cancelled. cancelled the cancelled rather. nigel, the meeting this evening, but that hasn't dissuaded residents from coming down to here the centre of bexhill to express their views. now, the north site is only about two and a half miles away from here. it's had an interesting life over the last 30 or so years. it's been an raf base. it's been a prison . it was base. it's been a prison. it was used as a training facility by the united arab emirates government. and of course, now the plan of the home office is to house 1200 single male asylum seekers in that accommodation .

seekers in that accommodation. it's upset a lot of the locals. they feel like they haven't been consulted on that. and of course that meeting that was supposed to ahead was cancelled, to go ahead today was cancelled, cancelled rather, because of fears that residents would confirm front councillors and other officials here. however locals very much wanting to have their say . pretty good turnout, their say. pretty good turnout, well over 100 people here and a peaceful protest with people expressing their views. now, jenny smith is a local resident. she's helped to organise today's event. she joins me now . so, event. she joins me now. so, jenny, why have people been meeting here today ? they're very meeting here today? they're very angry meeting here today? they're very ongry tnot— meeting here today? they're very ongry tnot tbre— meeting here today? they're very ongry tnot tbre be— meeting here today? they're very angry that fire is being- angry that fire is being proboeet— angry that fire is being proboeet oe— angry that fire is being proposed as a site . we weren't proposed as a site. we weren't bntormet— proposed as a site. we weren't informed about— proposed as a site. we weren't informed about any of this. mr. werrbmon— informed about any of this. mr. merriman said— informed about any of this. mr. merriman said he— informed about any of this. mr. merriman said he only knew last week— merriman said he only knew last week .— merriman said he only knew last week . ant— merriman said he only knew last week . and 1200— merriman said he only knew last week . and 1200 single males aged week. and 1200 single males aged 18 week. and 1200 single males aged be to— week. and 1200 single males aged be to oz— week. and 1200 single males aged be to oz mbtee— week. and 1200 single males aged 18 to 32 miles up— week. and 1200 single males aged 18 to 32 miles up the road in a btoee— 18 to 32 miles up the road in a btoee wnben— 18 to 32 miles up the road in a place which is— 18 to 32 miles up the road in a place which is a— 18 to 32 miles up the road in a place which is a quiet seaside town— place which is a quiet seaside town tutt— place which is a quiet seaside town but ot— place which is a quiet seaside town full of old— place which is a quiet seaside town full of old age pensioners ont— town full of old age pensioners ont moet— town full of old age pensioners and most albie— town full of old age pensioners and most albie old people and tney— and most albie old people and tney wbtt— and most albie old people and tney wbtt be— and most albie old people and they will be allowed out at

nbgnt— they will be allowed out at nbgnt .— they will be allowed out at nbgnt . out— they will be allowed out at night , out till— they will be allowed out at night, out till 11:00 and said, if night, out till 11:00 and said, bt tney— night, out till 11:00 and said, bt tney ton-t— night, out till 11:00 and said, if they don't go— night, out till 11:00 and said, if they don't go home, they just get o— if they don't go home, they just get o bnone— if they don't go home, they just get a phone call— if they don't go home, they just get a phone call to ask why. now of get a phone call to ask why. now ot . tne— get a phone call to ask why. now of course , the home— get a phone call to ask why. now of course , the home office is of course, the home office is eoybng— of course, the home office is eoybng tnot— of course, the home office is saying that there— of course, the home office is saying that there will be eeeurbty— saying that there will be eeeurbty bn— saying that there will be security in place and there will oteo— security in place and there will oteolbrober— security in place and there will also proper facilities and also be proper facilities and resources-these- also be proper facilities and resources these people. resources for these people. so mere-e— resources for these people. so tnere-e ntenty— resources for these people. so there's plenty for— resources for these people. so there's plenty for them do there's plenty for them to do within accommodation . why within the accommodation. why are so concerned ? because are you so concerned? because they will are you so concerned? because tney wbtt be— are you so concerned? because they will be allowed _ are you so concerned? because they will be allowed out- ff? because they will be allowed out and tney— they will be allowed out and tney wbtt— they will be allowed out and they will roam _ they will be allowed out and they will roam the streets. the tbttte— they will roam the streets. the little common _ they will roam the streets. the little common being their neeet— little common being their nearest town,— little common being their nearest town, which is a very emott— nearest town, which is a very small village— nearest town, which is a very small village full of old people and small village full of old people ont tnere— small village full of old people ont tnere be— small village full of old people and there is nothing there for tnem — and there is nothing there for tnem to— and there is nothing there for tnem to to. — and there is nothing there for them to do. but— and there is nothing there for them to do. but so they will brobobty— them to do. but so they will brobobty go— them to do. but so they will probably go down there and drink or wbotewen— probably go down there and drink or whatever. there's just noweren— or whatever. there's just nowhere around here for anyone to to— nowhere around here for anyone to to onytbbng— nowhere around here for anyone to do anything. now the area wnere— to do anything. now the area wnere tney-re — to do anything. now the area where they're going to be accommodated, it's a residential bt-e— accommodated, it's a residential area. it's been— accommodated, it's a residential area. it's been used— accommodated, it's a residential area. it's been used by- accommodated, it's a residential area. it's been used by families and children as almost a play area as well. is that one of the big concerns? it's so close to young families and perhaps a better location would have been should have been sought? yes well, it's actually in the mbttte— well, it's actually in the mbttte ot— well, it's actually in the middle of nowhere. it's about a

me— middle of nowhere. it's about a mbte ont— middle of nowhere. it's about a mbte ont o— middle of nowhere. it's about a mile and a half— middle of nowhere. it's about a mile and a half out in the eountryebte. — mile and a half out in the countryside. and there's a goroge— countryside. and there's a goroge neorby— countryside. and there's a garage nearby, a local bus eerwbee— garage nearby, a local bus eerwbee. but— garage nearby, a local bus service. but there's very little for service. but there's very little tor onyone— service. but there's very little tor onyone to— service. but there's very little for anyone to do.— service. but there's very little for anyone to do. people are eeoret— for anyone to do. people are scared-their— for anyone to do. people are scared their children are scared that their children are going— scared that their children are gobng—bn- scared that their children arei going—in because going to be locked in because tney— going to be locked in because tney won-t— going to be locked in because they won't—out. . they won't be allowed out. bnbnge— they won't be allowed out. bnbnge wbtt— they won't be allowed out. things will have to be locked up- — things will have to be locked up. beobte— things will have to be locked up. beobte wbtt— things will have to be locked up. people will have to lock tnebr— up. people will have to lock their houses— up. people will have to lock their houses nobody knows their houses up. nobody knows gutte— their houses up. nobody knows gubte wno— their houses up. nobody knows gubte wno be— their houses up. nobody knows quite who is-in- their houses up. nobody knows quite who is in there quite who is going in there beuee— quite who is going in there because so because they're all illegal. so now-neorb— because they're all illegal. so now-heard there's- because they're all illegal. so now heard there's already now we've heard there's already been an impact on house prices. we've to people we've been speaking to people who've withdrawn or who've had offers withdrawn or or reduced because of this announcement . is that is that announcement. is that is that a factor as well? yes yes. my friend factor as well? yes yes. my trbent owne— factor as well? yes yes. my friend owns bexhill- f , “tilt? yes. my friend owns bexhill estates. bney-we— friend owns bexhill estates. tney-we not— friend owns bexhill estates. they've had three withdrawals trom — they've had three withdrawals from vendors— they've had three withdrawals from vendors from london in the toet— from vendors from london in the toet weet. — from vendors from london in the last week. house— from vendors from london in the last week. house prices will btummet— last week. house prices will btummet tt— last week. house prices will plummet if they— last week. house prices will plummet if they know this is going— plummet if they know this is gobng to— plummet if they know this is gobng to go— plummet if they know this is going to go ahead. so what's the mom— going to go ahead. so what's the plan then? what are residents saying here today they should do to try and prevent this from happening? they want to try and find a legal loophole before this actually goes through properly. hugh merriman is meetbng— properly. hugh merriman is meeting with— properly. hugh merriman is meeting with a— hugh merriman is meeting with a few lawyers tomorrow who _ meeting with a few lawyers tomorrow who hope to try and put tnebr— tomorrow who hope to try and put tnebr to— tomorrow who hope to try and put tnebr to eoee— tomorrow who hope to try and put their to case towards him. but not— their to case towards him. but not met— their to case towards him. but not tuet o— their to case towards him. but not just a protest— their to case towards him. but not just a protest to show as

mony— not just a protest to show as mony beobte— not just a protest to show as mony beobte ore— not just a protest to show as many people are concerned about me— many people are concerned about mm to— many people are concerned about mm to mote— many people are concerned about this, to make people listen to us because nobody seems to know wnot-e— us because nobody seems to know wnot-e gobng— us because nobody seems to know wnot-e gobng — us because nobody seems to know what's going on. jenny, thank you very much for joining us. nigel, of course, the home office is saying it does have a legal obligation to provide safe accommodation to destitute asylum seekers . and of course, asylum seekers. and of course, they're saying as well, this this site could actually have some benefits for the local community. it could help to create new jobs, and it could also new investment into also bring new investment into the area. yeah, also bring new investment into the area . yeah, they always the area area. yeah, they always say the area area. yeah, they always eoy tnot— the area area. yeah, they always say that radisson_ the area area. yeah, they always say that radisson ,_ ebbzi;reb ebbzi;reb yeah, they always say that radisson , thank you for say that radisson, thank you for tnot— say that radisson, thank you for tnot report— say that radisson, thank you for tnot rebort ont— say that radisson, thank you for that report and thank you, jenny,— that report and thank you, yenny. tor— that report and thank you, jenny, for joining that report and thank you, jenny, forjoining us that report and thank you, jenny, for joining us there. yenny— jenny, for joining us there. yenny be— jenny, for joining us there. yenny be tne— jenny, for joining us there. jenny is the sort of woman that tne— jenny is the sort of woman that me bbmee— jenny is the sort of woman that the times newspaper will teeerbbe— the times newspaper will teeerbbe .— the times newspaper will describe , of— the times newspaper will describe , of course, as being describe, of course, as being a far describe, of course, as being a tor rbgnt— describe, of course, as being a tor rbgnt wbng— describe, of course, as being a far right wing thug. but clearly ene-e— far right wing thug. but clearly ene-e not. — far right wing thug. but clearly she's not. and— far right wing thug. but clearly she's not. and no— far right wing thug. but clearly she's not. and no site is eubtobte— she's not. and no site is suitable because nowhere where is i suitable because nowhere where be—b genubnety- is this wanted? i genuinely tnougnt— is this wanted? i genuinely thought last— is this wanted? i genuinely thought last week that we could tne — thought last week that we could tne butt— thought last week that we could save the raf scampton. i thought the save the raf scampton. i thought tne buebneee— save the raf scampton. i thought the business plan— save the raf scampton. i thought the business plan was the business plan that was in btoee— the business plan that was in btoee woe— the business plan that was in place was enough for us place was good enough for us to netb— place was good enough for us to netbletob— place was good enough for us to nettletob tt— place was good enough for us to nettletob bt .— place was good enough for us to help-stop it . but— place was good enough for us to help stop it . but no, it's help to stop it. but no, it's going— help to stop it. but no, it's gobng to— help to stop it. but no, it's gobng to go— help to stop it. but no, it's going to go ahead. and today it's going to go ahead. and today be been— going to go ahead. and today it's been announced that, yes, torttont— it's been announced that, yes, torttont bn— it's been announced that, yes, portland in dorset— it's been announced that, yes, portland in dorset is going to get-r— portland in dorset is going to get-.-borge. i portland in dorset is going toj get-.-borge. bt-e get a barge, a big barge. it's

eottet— get a barge, a big barge. it's eottet tne— get a barge, a big barge. it's called the billy— get a barge, a big barge. it's called the billy the bibby stockholm.— called the billy the bibby stockholm. it— called the billy the bibby stockholm. it will take just boo— stockholm. it will take just over 500 young— stockholm. it will take just over 500 young men. they'll be noueet— over 500 young men. they'll be noueet on— over 500 young men. they'll be housed on this— over 500 young men. they'll be housed on this barge. the local mp.— housed on this barge. the local mp, btbenort— housed on this barge. the local mp, richard drax,_ housed on this barge. the local mp, richard drax, is absolutely enroget— mp, richard drax, is absolutely enroget ont— mp, richard drax, is absolutely enroget ont b— mp, richard drax, is absolutely enraged and i am— mp, richard drax, is absolutely enraged and i am unimpressed at the enraged and i am unimpressed at tne woy— enraged and i am unimpressed at tne woy tne— enraged and i am unimpressed at the way the home— enraged and i am unimpressed at the way the home office has, in etteet— the way the home office has, in etteet .— the way the home office has, in effect , forced _ the way the home office has, in effect , forced the— the way the home office has, in effect , forced the barge and 500 effect, forced the barge and 500 ebngte— effect, forced the barge and 500 ebngte young— effect, forced the barge and 500 single young adult— effect, forced the barge and 500 single young adult men that will live single young adult men that will tbwe on— single young adult men that will tbwe on t— single young adult men that will live on it onto— single young adult men that will live on it onto a— single young adult men that will live on it onto a very sensitive notbtoy— live on it onto a very sensitive holiday destination without nowbng— holiday destination without nowbng tne — holiday destination without having the courtesy to consult wbtn— having the courtesy to consult wbtn onyone— having the courtesy to consult with anyone other than portly betont— with anyone other than portly betont port.— with anyone other than portly island port. the— with anyone other than portly island port. the barge will be a guoeb— island port. the barge will be a guoeb brbeon— island port. the barge will be a quasi prison with— island port. the barge will be a quasi prison with a bus taking emott— quasi prison with a bus taking small numbers— quasi prison with a bus taking small numbers of migrants at a ttme— small numbers of migrants at a tbme bnto— small numbers of migrants at a time into weymouth who will monbtor— time into weymouth who will monitor them— time into weymouth who will monitor them ?_ time into weymouth who will monitor them ? what will they do? monitor them? what will they do? wnot— monitor them? what will they do? wnot tt— monitor them? what will they do? wnot bt tney— monitor them? what will they do? what if they don't— monitor them? what will they do? what if they don't return? these are what if they don't return? these tuet— what if they don't return? these tuet eone— what if they don't return? these are just some of— what if they don't return? these are just some of the questions to wnben— are just some of the questions to which there— are just some of the questions to which there are— are just some of the questions to which there are no answers. webb— to which there are no answers. well, richard— to which there are no answers. well, richard drax, i understand the well, richard drax, i understand tne-b— well, richard drax, i understand the-i understand- well, richard drax, i understand the i understand the the anger. i understand the onger— the anger. i understand the onger ot— the anger. i understand the anger of voters. _ the anger. i understand the anger of voters. but i'm not bt-e— anger of voters. but i'm not bt-e gobng— anger of voters. but i'm not sure it's going to- anger of voters. but i'm not sure it's going to a prison sure it's going to be a prison beuee— sure it's going to be a prison because those— sure it's going to be a prison because those photos we just btoyet — because those photos we just btoyet -eeen - because those photos we just. played - screen -that played on your screen show that were— played on your screen show that tnere — played on your screen show that tnere boot— played on your screen show that there are pool halls, there are bore— there are pool halls, there are bore-ub— there are pool halls, there are bore-ubltote.- there are pool halls, there are bars, up date. modern bars, quite up to date. modern woenbng— bars, quite up to date. modern washing-facilities. bars, quite up to date. modern washing facilities . washing and toilet facilities. but— washing and toilet facilities. but tnot— washing and toilet facilities. but tnot be— washing and toilet facilities. but that is where we are now .

but that is where we are now. bnere— but that is where we are now. bnere be— but that is where we are now. there is emotion— but that is where we are now. there is emotion always emotion in there is emotion always emotion bn tnbe— there is emotion always emotion in this debate,— there is emotion always emotion in this debate, huge emotion in me— in this debate, huge emotion in we tebote. — in this debate, huge emotion in this debate. but— in this debate, huge emotion in this debate. but there are also totte— this debate. but there are also toete twe— this debate. but there are also toete he got— this debate. but there are also facts i've got with— this debate. but there are also facts i've got with me tony smbtn— facts i've got with me tony smbtn tne— facts i've got with me tony smith, the former director generot— smith, the former director generot ot— smith, the former director general of uk— smith, the former director general of uk border force. tony,— general of uk border force. bony. oe— general of uk border force. bony. oe eer— general of uk border force. tony, as ever, welcome . before tony, as ever, welcome. before we get— tony, as ever, welcome. before we get to— tony, as ever, welcome. before we get to tne— tony, as ever, welcome. before we get to the problem, the first bebng— we get to the problem, the first bebng tnot— we get to the problem, the first one being that 500 have come in the one being that 500 have come in tbe toet— one being that 500 have come in tbe toet two— one being that 500 have come in the last two days.— one being that 500 have come in the last two days. so that barge is the last two days. so that barge be tbttet— the last two days. so that barge be tbttet ont— the last two days. so that barge is filled and the— the last two days. so that barge is filled and the north ii site in is filled and the north ii site bn bexnbtb— is filled and the north ii site in bexhill,1200_ is filled and the north ii site in bexhill, 1200 young is filled and the north ii site in bexhill,12oo young men on buguet— in bexhill,12oo young men on buguet tne— in bexhill,12oo young men on august the 22nd— in bexhill,12oo young men on august the 22nd last year, 1295 came in one day.— august the 22nd last year, 1295 came in one day. but before we get to— came in one day. but before we get to tnot— came in one day. but before we get to that facts— came in one day. but before we get to that facts fact , it's get to that facts fact, it's motter— get to that facts fact, it's motter bn— get to that facts fact, it's matter in this— get to that facts fact, it's matter in this and the prime bbbnbeter— matter in this and the prime minister claimed recently that the minister claimed recently that tne oeytum — minister claimed recently that the asylum backlog that we eurrentty— the asylum backlog that we currently have— the asylum backlog that we currently have was only half of the currently have was only half of tbe number— currently have was only half of the number of— currently have was only half of the number of outstanding claims as the number of outstanding claims oe wnen— the number of outstanding claims as when labour— the number of outstanding claims as when labour left government in as when labour left government bn zero— as when labour left government bn zero ont— as when labour left government in 2010 and the— as when labour left government in 2010 and the uk statistics wotentog— in 2010 and the uk statistics wotentog noe— in 2010 and the uk statistics watchdog has come back in the torm— watchdog has come back in the torm ot— watchdog has come back in the torm ot str— watchdog has come back in the form of sir robert— watchdog has come back in the form of sir robert chote and has eobt— form of sir robert chote and has eobt tnot— form of sir robert chote and has said that actually— form of sir robert chote and has said that actually the backlog, if

said that actually the backlog, bt we— said that actually the backlog, bt we go— said that actually the backlog, bt we go boot— said that actually the backlog, if we go back to— said that actually the backlog, if we go back to 2010, was oetuotty— if we go back to 2010, was oetuotty onty— if we go back to 2010, was actually only a— if we go back to 2010, was actually only a fraction of what it actually only a fraction of what bt be— actually only a fraction of what bt be now— actually only a fraction of what bt be ot— actually only a fraction of what it is now at the— actually only a fraction of what it is now at the time of asking at it is now at the time of asking ot tne— it is now at the time of asking ot tne ent— it is now at the time of asking ot tne ent ot— it is now at the time of asking at the end of last— it is now at the time of asking at the end of last year, the boettog— at the end of last year, the boettog woe— at the end of last year, the backlog was 132,000. but if we go boot— backlog was 132,000. but if we go boot to — backlog was 132,000. but if we go back to 2010,— backlog was 132,000. but if we go back to 2010, it— backlog was 132,000. but if we go back to 2010, it . was 19,000 go back to 2010, it. was 19,000 . be— go back to 2010, it. was 19,000 . be tne— go back to 2010, it. was 19,000 . be tne trbme— go back to 2010, it. was 19,000 . is the prime minister deliberately- . is the prime minister deliberately misleading us or woutt— deliberately misleading us or woutt b— deliberately misleading us or woutt b be— deliberately misleading us or would i be being unfair ? would i be being unfair? i think the probtem— would i be being unfair? i think the problem, nigel, is a lack of corporate memory in the home office on all of these statistics and all of these figures. as you know, i work there throughout the entire period. i worked there for 40 years. through. is years. i lived through. so it is your fault? course it is. but your fault? of course it is. but i mean, i mean, the big i mean, so i mean, the big problems were actually before 2010. that was the biggest intake 2002, actually intake we had was 2002, actually , that we had these , that was when we had these sorts numbers coming across sorts of numbers coming across in the ferries. so we did develop very, very big backlog develop a very, very big backlog erg in the 2000s. but by erg in the early 2000s. but by the we got to 2010, we'd the time we got to 2010, we'd done number of things in the done a number of things in the uk agency, of which i uk border agency, of which i was part , which called intake part, which was called intake reduction on the one hand. so we

did a lot of work to put our resources into france to stop people coming across. they were coming ferries on coming in the ferries and on lorries days. be fair, lorries those days. to be fair, not on boats, but we did a lot of on the french side to of work on the french side to reduce intake. was part of reduce intake. i was part of that and we did a lot of removals. we sent a of removals. nigel we sent a lot of people mean, thousands people back. i mean, thousands every being sent back. every year were being sent back. we had targets. i had teams of, of officers had removals of officers who had removals targets. and your job was to take cases from start to finish targets. and your job was to tairemoval from start to finish targets. and your job was to tairemoval stage. tart to finish targets. and your job was to tairemoval stage. howo finish targets. and your job was to tairemoval stage. how isinish targets. and your job was to tairemoval stage. how is itish targets. and your job was to tairemoval stage. how is it that to removal stage. how is it that it was politically acceptable under and then brown under a blair and then brown labour deport labour government to deport thousands people thousands of people who shouldn't and suddenly shouldn't be there and suddenly we can't rid of anybody? we can't get rid of anybody? well think there's been well, i think there's been a number— well, i think there's been a number-things- well, i think there's been a number things have number of things that have bobbenet— number of things that have happened home office in happened in the home office in reem— happened in the home office in recent-wnot.— happened in the home office in recent-nigel, the- recent years. nigel, the windrush scandal was absolutely knocked them for six. these problems with the small boats, they haven't really been able to get a grip of in terms of investment in removals . a lot of investment in removals. a lot of the cohorts that are coming across now are really quite hard to remove because they come from countries that simply refuse to

take people back. even if they're refused asylum, which is where rwanda came from. but the biggest me biggest problem of all for me has been all of these legal barriers removal. so every barriers to removal. so every time as an immigration officer, the immigration officer is watching programme will watching this programme will empathise arrest empathise with this. they arrest somebody right somebody and they'll say, right , somebody here. he's , i've got somebody here. he's he's we he's he's as far as we know, he's removable. the next day there will be something that will crop up and then something else will crop up. and then saw what crop up. and then you saw what happened year. happened with rwanda last year. you covering that live as you were covering that live as the was the runway. the plane was on the runway. yeah, was a lawyer in the yeah, there was a lawyer in the european court persuading a judge had knowing about this judge who had knowing about this really ex parte hearing the home office didn't even to put office didn't even get to put their the story to say, their side of the story to say, well, sorry, we need to. well, no, i'm sorry, we need to. and the problem. and this has been the problem. delay, delay . and the home delay, delay. and the home office will get the blame for this. politicians say it's this. politicians will say it's all of home all the fault of the home office. clear these office. they should clear these cases quickly. not cases really quickly. not fit for only way to for purpose. the only way to clear cases really, really quickly to grant them you quickly to grant them all you want people really want us to want to people really want us to grant isn't this interesting? because actually we if you take

bbbonbo— because actually we if you take bbbonbo tor— because actually we if you take albania for argument's sake, toroge— albania for argument's sake, toroge ont— albania for argument's sake, farage and germany last year beeuet— farage and germany last year beeuet eobt— farage and germany last year issued said zero— farage and germany last year issued said zero asylum claims to bbbonbone— issued said zero asylum claims to albanians, yet— issued said zero asylum claims to albanians, yet 50% of bbbonbone— to albanians, yet 50% of albanians that come here get grontet— albanians that come here get granted asylum _ albanians that come here get granted asylum status. so yes, you— granted asylum status. so yes, you on— granted asylum status. so yes, you eteor— granted asylum status. so yes, you can clear the— granted asylum status. so yes, you can clear the backlog by etteetbwety— you can clear the backlog by effectively letting everybody in. effectively letting everybody bn. we— effectively letting everybody m we nowe— effectively letting everybody in. we have now deported some bbbonbone— in. we have now deported some bbbonbone. b— in. we have now deported some albanians. i understand. / albanians. i understand. yeah. if albanians. i understand. yeah. btyou— albanians. i understand. yeah. bt you boot— albanians. i understand. yeah. bt you boot ot— albanians. i understand. yeah. if you look at the— albanians. i understand. yeah. if you look at the latest figures, which kind of proves my point, nigel, there is a direct correlation between intake reduction and removals as we've started to an immigration enforcement i know have been tasked with the duty of finding albanians who now they've got a grip of all these outstanding claims. accelerated claims. they've accelerated those through the system and they've and them they've said, go and get them and they're being back, and they're being sent back, visibly the albanian visibly sent back. the albanian intake the boats has intake on the boats has gone has dropped remarkably the last dropped remarkably in the last few weeks because the word is out. a huge out. social media is a huge accelerator in all of this. the price is on. tiktok have even dropped . oh, oh. they have dropped. oh, oh. they have sales. so so, so i've just proved my point . i think this proved my point. i think this proves my point that at a

concerted effort on removals, have they got removals, targets 7 have they got removals, targets ? yes, of course. there's places it's really difficult in some countries. what about rwanda ? countries. what about rwanda? what about other countries? we can there a dedicated can send is there a dedicated line of effort between casework enforcement across from enforcement right across from border arrival and then border force arrival and then you've accommodate you've got these accommodate problems we're simply problems because we're simply not equipped, nigel, to be able to deal with these. well, let's come to deal with these. well, let's boot— to deal with these. well, let's boot to— to deal with these. well, let's come back to that— : well, let's come back to that because beuee— come back to that because beuee bn— come back to that because because in the— come back to that because because in the last week we've not— because in the last week we've not-eeombton— because in the last week we've had scampton announcement, had the scampton announcement, we've-essex former- we've had the essex former raf boee—we-we- we've had the essex former raf boeewe—bwe noti we've had the essex former raf. base _we've had the base announcement, we've had the bent— base announcement, we've had the bexhill announcement. we now nowe—borge- have the portland barge announcement and something might nomen— announcement and something might bobben ot— announcement and something might happen at catterick,_ announcement and something might happen at catterick, but no reotty— happen at catterick, but no one's really decided because bt-e— one's really decided because bt-e tne— one's really decided because bt-e tne ebb-e— one's really decided because it's the pm's constituency, what it's the pm's constituency, what bt wbtt— it's the pm's constituency, what bt wbtt be. — it's the pm's constituency, what bt wbtt be. so— it's the pm's constituency, what it will be. so about 5400 spaces nowe— it will be. so about 5400 spaces nowe been— it will be. so about 5400 spaces have been cleared— it will be. so about 5400 spaces have been cleared over the course of the— have been cleared over the course of the last week . yet you course of the last week. yet you know.— course of the last week. yet you know. booe— course of the last week. yet you know, 5000 could— course of the last week. yet you know, 5000 could come in in a cum— know, 5000 could come in in a eotm week— know, 5000 could come in in a eotm weet bn— know, 5000 could come in in a calm week in june— know, 5000 could come in in a calm week in june ,_ know, 5000 could come in in a calm week in june , this saturday calm week in june, this saturday and calm week in june, this saturday ont sunny.— calm week in june, this saturday and sunday. the— calm week in june, this saturday and sunday. the forecast for the cnonnet— and sunday. the forecast for the cnonnet be— and sunday. the forecast for the channel is flat— and sunday. the forecast for the channel is flat calm, at least boo— channel is flat calm, at least 500 mu— channel is flat calm, at least 500 will come,— channel is flat calm, at least 500 will come, are we not in tonger— 500 will come, are we not in tonger tnbe— 500 will come, are we not in danger this year,— 500 will come, are we not in danger this year, given the number— danger this year, given the number ot— danger this year, given the number of hotels that have otreoty— number of hotels that have

already been— number of hotels that have already been used or the amount of already been used or the amount ot brbwote— already been used or the amount of private accommodation that's otreoty— of private accommodation that's otreoty been— of private accommodation that's already been used, the shortage of already been used, the shortage ot borgee— already been used, the shortage ot borgee ont— already been used, the shortage of barges and other structures , of barges and other structures, are we— of barges and other structures, are we not— of barges and other structures, are we not bn— of barges and other structures, are we not in danger this summer of are we not in danger this summer ot ebmbty— are we not in danger this summer ot ebmbty bebng— are we not in danger this summer of simply being overwhelmed? so we-go— of simply being overwhelmed? so we-go boot— of simply being overwhelmed? so we-go boot to— of simply being overwhelmed? so we-go back to the- of simply being overwhelmed? so we-go back to the asylum we need to go back to the asylum support that set up support system that was set up in plan always was in 1999. the plan always was that you would go to section 98 accommodation. that's the hotel. but just a week or two, because whilst you made an application for section 95 accommodation, which was provided by contract in communities, these were rented self—catering, you would stay in that until your application was, then you go to section for accommodation and then you'd be removed. there then you'd be removed. so there was process place, was a process put in place, a conveyor belt to deal with a certain number of people. everybody's in section 98 still. they're at the front they're all stuck at the front end. hotels have even end. the hotels have even bursting now. there needs to bursting now. so there needs to be fundamental review of be a fundamental review of asylum don't forget, asylum support. don't forget, the get asylum the only people that get asylum support who to support are people who claim to be destitute. on arrival. if you turn up from boat and you say, turn up from a boat and you say, oh no, got a brother in in oh no, i've got a brother in in walthamstow here, walthamstow who can laugh here, you'll get bail to your brother's address. so don't brother's address. so we don't put but

put everybody there. but it suits people actually suits a lot of people actually to claim destitution and into to claim destitution and go into this elongated support system. to claim destitution and go into this theigated support system. to claim destitution and go into this the governmentrrt system. to claim destitution and go into this the government is system. to claim destitution and go into this the government is playing and the government is playing catch whole and catch up the whole time and i just don't when they will just don't know when they will catch up. nigel it's going to get a worse. a lot worse get a lot worse. a lot worse betore— get a lot worse. a lot worse betore tt— get a lot worse. a lot worse before it gets— get a lot worse. a lot worse before it gets-final. before it gets better. final gueetbon— before it gets better. final question, final— before it gets better. final question, final thought, tony smbtn— question, final thought, tony smbtn-toney- question, final thought, tony smith, fancy coming back smith, do you fancy coming back out-retirement— smith, do you fancy coming back out-retirement ? _ smith, do you fancy coming back out retirement ? bobbin out of retirement? well, i'm passionate the whole passionate about the whole business because i just believe in rule of law. nigel and i in the rule of law. nigel and i hear arguments about hear all these arguments about what's what's hear all these arguments about what's in what's hear all these arguments about what's in my what's hear all these arguments about what's in my day, what's hear all these arguments about what's in my day, the it's hear all these arguments about what's in my day, the laws were illegal in my day, the laws were passed over there, and if a law was passed that said, your duty as an immigration officer is to arrest and deport people who have no right to be if they're lawfully or coming lawfully here or coming lawfully, at all. lawfully, no problem at all. very but there has to very welcome. but there has to be a welcome the hillsides. be a welcome in the hillsides. and we have control. and i fear we have lost control. you've got controlled you've got even controlled migration, half million a year migration, half a million a year now. you now. these numbers on top, you can there's community can see why there's community unrest that's why unrest and that's why the government prioritising government are prioritising it. but a lot of, you know, but there's a lot of, you know, it's a lot of shutting the door after the horse has bolted, i'm afraid. they've really afraid. and they've really got to grip and get a grip to get a grip and get a grip quickly that's my quickly on removals. that's my view. tony smith thank you.

bnere— view. tony smith thank you. mere-ore.— view. tony smith thank you. there-are, rishi - . tony smith thank you. there are, rishi sunak there you are, rishi sunak gbwbng— there you are, rishi sunak gbwbng you— there you are, rishi sunak gbwbng you ott— there you are, rishi sunak giving you all these comforting oeo— giving you all these comforting worte-ne— giving you all these comforting words,.he says,— giving you all these comforting words,.he says, by- giving you all these comforting words, he says, by using the words, as he says, by using the borgee— words, as he says, by using the borgeelby— words, as he says, by using the borgeelby-we-re- words, as he says, by using the barges by we're going barges. by the way, we're going to-money.— barges. by the way, we're going to-money.-won't. barges. by the way, we're going. to-money.-won't save to save money. no, we won't save a to save money. no, we won't save o penny.— to save money. no, we won't save o penny-nbgnt— to save money. no, we won't save obennylmbgnt tuet- to save money. no, we won't save a penny. might just not spend a penny. we might just not spend gubte—nbgnt- a penny. we might just not spend gubte—nbgnt on- a penny. we might just not spend quite night on their quite as much per night on their accommodation— quite as much per night on their accommodation would in a accommodation as we would in a tour— accommodation as we would in a tour etor— accommodation as we would in a tour etor noteb— accommodation as we would in a four star hotel. it's— accommodation as we would in a four star hotel. it's all spin, no substance.— four star hotel. it's all spin, no substance. i— four star hotel. it's all spin, no substance. i promise you, be— no substance. i promise you, we gobng— no substance. i promise you, we gobng to— no substance. i promise you, we gobng to get— no substance. i promise you, it's going to get worse before it's going to get worse before bt gete— it's going to get worse before it gets better. _ it's going to get worse before it gets better. in— it's going to get worse before it gets better. in a moment, wett— it gets better. in a moment, we-tt tott— it gets better. in a moment, we'll talk about— it gets better. in a moment, we'll talk about trump's legal ont— we'll talk about trump's legal case and whether— we'll talk about trump's legal case and whether he really is in the case and whether he really is in tbe eyee— case and whether he really is in tbe eyee ot— case and whether he really is in the eyes of the— case and whether he really is in the eyes of the law— case and whether he really is in the eyes of the law being wronget— the eyes of the law being wronget .—

well, i'm joined down the line by soottbe— well, i'm joined down the line by scottie nell— well, i'm joined down the line by scottie nell hughes , who is by scottie nell hughes, who is a tournotbet— by scottie nell hughes, who is a tournotbet ont— by scottie nell hughes, who is a journalist and a— by scottie nell hughes, who is a journalist and a political commentator— journalist and a political commentator from nashville, tennessee. let's— commentator from nashville, tennessee. let's get a flavour of tennessee. let's get a flavour ot wnot— tennessee. let's get a flavour ot wnot beobte— tennessee. let's get a flavour of what people thought about tnot— of what people thought about tnot trump— of what people thought about that trump speech that took btoee. — that trump speech that took btoee. bb— that trump speech that took place. 1:15 a.m._ that trump speech that took place. 1:15 am. our time. soottbe— place. 1:15 am. our time. scottie nell— place. 1:15 am. our time. scottie nell hughes, when you

see scottie nell hughes, when you wnot— scottie nell hughes, when you see what happened in that wonnotton— see what happened in that manhattan courtroom and you see the manhattan courtroom and you see tne reeoneeb— manhattan courtroom and you see the response that— manhattan courtroom and you see the response that we got last nbgnt— the response that we got last nbgnt trom — the response that we got last night from donald trump, i want to oew— night from donald trump, i want to oet you— night from donald trump, i want to oet you oe— night from donald trump, i want to oet you oe o— night from donald trump, i want to ask you as a commentator, a ebmbte— to ask you as a commentator, a ebmbte gueetbon— to ask you as a commentator, a simple question. do you believe tnot— simple question. do you believe tnot trump— simple question. do you believe that trump wronged ? that trump is being wronged? wett— that trump is being wronged? wett .— that trump is being wronged? wett . ebmnte— that trump is being wronged? well , simple answer- that trump is being wronged? well , simple answer is- that trump is being wronged? well, simple answer is yes. but let me tell you this, nigel. from the same country that has brought the world the great production of the kardashians and dog the bounty hunter, i think have literally outdone think we have literally outdone ourselves this time with the fictional work of the 34 counts that the bragg indictment brought us. i mean, it's got everything in it, nigel. it's got mystery . it's got comedy, got mystery. it's got comedy, it's got the tears of the american media. most importantly, it's got the star that makes every production number one, donald j. trump in the middle of it. and let me tell you, you know him just like i know him. he is absolutely using this and capitalising on it as he should, to point out what is wrong with america today and the injustices that are happening and the corruption

going on within the government . going on within the government. so you think this will make him stronger, not weaker , i wonder. stronger, not weaker, i wonder. you see, will voters in the mbttte— you see, will voters in the middle ground— you see, will voters in the middle ground the undecideds ? middle ground the undecideds? wbtt— middle ground the undecideds? wbtt tney— middle ground the undecideds? will they warm _ middle ground the undecideds? will they warm to his cause , will they warm to his cause, gbwen— will they warm to his cause, gbwen wnot-e— will they warm to his cause, given what's happened ? bobbin given what's happened? well, know— given what's happened? well, know to— given what's happened? well, know 10 million— given what's happened? well, know 10 million reasons which reflect the $10 million that he has raised off it, which gives me confidence that this will actually help donald j. trump in the end. listen the real problem with 2020 and why he lost and we can we analyse it, but the can we can analyse it, but the main reason people were not main reason why people were not engaged , his voters did not show engaged, his voters did not show up at the polls, especially in the key cities that he needed them to . he also did not bring them to. he also did not bring them to. he also did not bring the independents that did the independents that he did in 2016. this right here makes every american who has ever felt that they've been wrong, wronged or targeted by the government, whether it's be local or federal , who has ever had to fight the irs for a penalty. they didn't think had. this makes think they had. this makes donald j. trump the billionaire in extremely relatable. and that's why this is going to work

in his advantage in end, in his advantage in the end, because everything keep because everything they keep throwing not only is throwing at him, not only is it going to get old, but it'll give him the platform to talk about the he believes, the corruption that he believes, rightfully so, exists within the us government currently , we okay us government currently, we okay strong opinion there. thank you, scottie strong opinion there. thank you, seottbe wett— strong opinion there. thank you, scottie nell hughes,— strong opinion there. thank you, scottie nell hughes, for- g “ rir“ “ribi thank you, scottie nell hughes, for that g “ “bib“ bi thank you, scottie nell hughes, for that . scottie nell hughes, for that. bet-e— scottie nell hughes, for that. bet-e go— scottie nell hughes, for that. bet-e go begot— scottie nell hughes, for that. let's go legal now on this. i'm tobnet— let's go legal now on this. i'm tobnet town— let's go legal now on this. i'm joined down the— let's go legal now on this. i'm joined down the line from tnoenbw— joined down the line from phoenix, arizona , by mark phoenix, arizona, by mark brnowben— phoenix, arizona, by mark brnovich, who _ phoenix, arizona, by mark brnovich, who was the two term ottorney— brnovich, who was the two term attorney general— brnovich, who was the two term attorney general of that great etote— attorney general of that great etote untbt— attorney general of that great state until january of this yeon— state until january of this yeor. wort.— state until january of this year. mark, welcome back on the nogrom— year. mark, welcome back on the brogrom. con— year. mark, welcome back on the brogrom. con b— year. mark, welcome back on the program. can i just— year. mark, welcome back on the program. can i just ask you met— program. can i just ask you tnbee bnere— program. can i just ask you this? there were- program. can i just ask you this? there were 34 criminal enorgee— this? there were 34 criminal enorgee tott— this? there were 34 criminal charges laid yesterday. it seems to me— charges laid yesterday. it seems to me tnot— charges laid yesterday. it seems to me that basically the problem is to me that basically the problem be oeeounonety— to me that basically the problem is accountancy ._ to me that basically the problem is accountancy . would that be is accountancy. would that be rbgnt— is accountancy. would that be rbgnt e — is accountancy. would that be rbgnt e yeom— is accountancy. would that be right ? yeah. nigel,- is accountancy. would that be right? / \r gill is accountancy. would that be right ? / \r gill gbie. right? yeah. nigel, it's great seeing you. thank you for having me on again. and you know, i was a federal and a state prosecutor before becoming the attorney general and when i read through these 34 counts, i couldn't help but think of an old american

commercial where you ask, where's the beef? because literally, is what we would literally, this is what we would call when was call here when i was a prosecutor, a process crime. you ask yourself, was anyone hurt? i used to prosecute medicaid fraud cases. used to prosecute medicaid fraud cases . did used to prosecute medicaid fraud cases. did someone steal taxpayers dollars ? i mean, so taxpayers dollars? i mean, so there's really i used to tell young attorneys that if you can't describe the crime and how the public was wronged or hurt in 30 seconds or less, you probably shouldn't bring the case. and so i would ask all of my you know, liberal or democratic friends is please explain this case and who got hurt as a result of a non—disclosure agreement? donald trump signed with some adult film stars ? yeah it is film stars? yeah it is difficult, i must say. it is difficult, i must say. it is difficult to see r: rt. it is difficult to see exactly what tne— difficult to see exactly what tne — difficult to see exactly what the crime is.— difficult to see exactly what the crime is. but mark, an even bbgger— the crime is. but mark, an even bbgger gueetbon— the crime is. but mark, an even bbgger gueetbon .— the crime is. but mark, an even bigger question . and donald bigger question. and donald trump— bigger question. and donald brumb ont— bigger question. and donald trump and even more fundamental gueetbon—bmerbeo- trump and even more fundamental question,-america ,- question, i think for america, its constitution,— question, i think for america, its constitution, its society is ont— its constitution, its society is ont you-e— its constitution, its society is and you've been— its constitution, its society is and you've been a long term , you and you've been a long term, you know.— and you've been a long term, you know. towyen— and you've been a long term, you know, lawyer, prosecutor , know, lawyer, prosecutor, ottorney— know, lawyer, prosecutor, attorney general, does this not

mote— attorney general, does this not mote tene— attorney general, does this not mote tene ot— attorney general, does this not make tens of millions of ameneone— make tens of millions of americans look at your judicial eyetem — americans look at your judicial eyetem ont— americans look at your judicial system and ask— americans look at your judicial system and ask whether it really worte— system and ask whether it really worte onymoe— system and ask whether it really works anymore ? _ system and ask whether it really works anymore ? b/rireb“ system and ask whether it really works anymore ? / eb“r: system and ask whether it really works anymore ? / e“r: works anymore? yeah, and that's the thing that breaks my heart, nigel, because i think of, you know , more than 200 years of know, more than 200 years of incredible motty are american constitutional system had and what we brought to the world and what we brought to the world and what we brought to the world and what we talked about how important the rule of law is that no person's above the law . that no person's above the law. but at the same time, our system is all based on the law treats everyone equally. that's why lady justice has blindfold . lady justice has a blindfold. and this seems so and to me, this seems so blatantly partisan. it seems so political . it's such a stretch. political. it's such a stretch. and once again, if you take these facts , take out the name these facts, take out the name donald trump, would this case be going forward ? i think no going forward? i think no self—respecting prosecutor anywhere , republican or anywhere, republican or democrat, would bring this case. and what i'm worried about is this sets a precedent where the united states is going to end up like other third world countries, where we settle our political differences through the criminal system. and so now

this the beginning the this is the beginning of the weaponization of justice weaponization of our justice system, is a dangerous, system, which is a dangerous, dangerous precedent . absolutely dangerous precedent. absolutely mark brnovich, you're now our begot— mark brnovich, you're now our tegot eogte. — mark brnovich, you're now our tegot eogte. we— mark brnovich, you're now our legal eagle. we will come back to you— legal eagle. we will come back to you oe— legal eagle. we will come back to you oe tnbe— legal eagle. we will come back to you as this develops over the ot tne— to you as this develops over the course of the next— to you as this develops over the course of the next weeks and montbe— course of the next weeks and montne. bnt— course of the next weeks and months. and thank you for tobnbng— months. and thank you for tobnbng me— months. and thank you for joining me again here on gb news us joining me again here on gb news ue bn— joining me again here on gb news ue bn o— joining me again here on gb news ue bn o momem— joining me again here on gb news ue bn o momem .— joining me again here on gb news us in a moment. it's— joining me again here on gb news us in a moment. it's time for bottbng— us in a moment. it's time for talking points.— us in a moment. it's time for talking points. i'll be joined by torner— talking points. i'll be joined by former jockey grand talking points. i'll be joined by formerjockey grand national by former jockey grand national teeter.— by former jockey grand national tipster, former— by former jockey grand national tipster, former bbc commentator btbenort— tipster, former bbc commentator richard pitman.— tipster, former bbc commentator richard pitman. see you in a eoubte—

richard pitman, welcome to bottbng— richard pitman, welcome to talking pints. _ richard pitman, welcome to talking pints. b/riter g: talking pints. yes, good health to you. good to— talking pints. yes, good health to you. good to see- talking pints. yes, good health to you. good to see you. - talking pints. b/riter g: good to see you. you to you. good to see you. you toot— to you. good to see you. you toot goot. — to you. good to see you. you look good. you've- to you. good to see you. you look good. you've got- good to see you. you look good. /rir. grir to you. good to see you. you- look good. you've got a shine on your coat. you're okay now. i mean, it was quite right- mean, it was quite right that you— mean, it was quite right that you ere— mean, it was quite right that you born— mean, it was quite right that you were born in— mean, it was quite right that you were born in cheltenham, reotty— you were born in cheltenham, reotty. oent— you were born in cheltenham, really, wasn't it?— you were born in cheltenham, really, wasn't it? yeah. yeah as tnbnge— really, wasn't it? yeah. yeah as tnbnge-out. — really, wasn't it? yeah. yeah as things-out. love- really, wasn't it? yeah. yeah as things-out. love it.- really, wasn't it? yeah. yeah as. things-out. love it. love things turned out. love it. love it. things turned out. love it. love bt. but— things turned out. love it. love it. but academically at school , it. but academically at school, not a great success. no, i

failed all nine of my a—levels and i've been cocky little fella. i thought where it said in those days it didn't get percentage. it said so and so. f f f , f, f and i percentage. it said so and so. f ff, f, f and i thought that meant fantastic . yeah no, sorry meant fantastic. yeah no, sorry about that white horse racing. and why jump racing ? well, horse and why jump racing? well, horse roebng— and why jump racing? well, horse racing because i'm uneducated and i was small and i was light enough and i could ride, you know? and what other things could i have done so but, you know, nigel took me four years riding in small five, six horse stables to get a winner. did it really? and 60 rides in four ye — really? and 60 rides in four ye bbm— really? and 60 rides in four years. i'm amazed.- really? and 60 rides in four years. i'm amazed. i- really? and 60 rides in four years. i'm amazed. i then was able to continue and financially , he must have been a heck of a struggle. yeah. yeah. i mean, of course it was. i mean, you were on a stable lads wage, you know, but you're always looking, you always think the next horse is going to be the one. yeah. and in the you started to ride in the end, you started to ride very, good horses. but as a

very, very good horses. but as a profession , very, very good horses. but as a broteeebon . oe— very, very good horses. but as a broteeebon . oe o— very, very good horses. but as a profession , as a job,— very, very good horses. but as a profession , as a job, as- very, very good horses. but as a profession , as a job, as a- bi: bill 33 but as a profession , as a job, as a game profession, as a job, as a game , profession, as a job, as a game .to— profession, as a job, as a game . to be— profession, as a job, as a game . to be bn— profession, as a job, as a game . to be bn bebng— profession, as a job, as a game . to be bn bebng o— profession, as a job, as a game , to be in, being a jump jockey , i , to be in, being a jump jockey . b meon— , to be in, being a jump jockey . b b— , to be in, being a jump jockey , i mean, i think— , to be in, being a jump jockey , i mean, i think you're all ee.rotere b— , i mean, i think you're all crackers. i mean,- , i mean, i think you're all crackers. i mean, just talk us tnrougn— crackers. i mean, just talk us tnrougn eome— crackers. i mean, just talk us through some of— crackers. i mean, just talk us through some of the injuries tnot— through some of the injuries tnot you— through some of the injuries tnot you not— through some of the injuries that you had over the years. webb— that you had over the years. wett. pretty— that you had over the years. well, pretty nasty. _ that you had over the years. well, pretty nasty. one- that you had over the years. well, pretty nasty. one was a star fracture of the ankle where it just went. i landed running. now it's all about horse and rider. seeing as stride going to a fence. you see. and better a fence. you see. and the better the rider. francon was the rider. john francon was outstanding. further away outstanding. the further away from the fence he could get his stride pattern right. and i'd had a couple of winners at sandown park and i was going for my third one. so i'm thinking there'll on there'll be a picture on the front page. it was sporting life in those days. so i wasn't particularly pretty, know. particularly pretty, you know. so down and started to do so i got down and started to do that, you see, and get a of that, you see, and get a bit of style on and the horse, although i'd got lined up for i'd got him lined up for a stride, felt me relaxed. so he relaxed and he put in a little short step and went sideways and pushed me out of the saddle. and ilanded pushed me out of the saddle. and i landed on my one leg in front of him at probably 35 miles an

hour, of him at probably 35 miles an hour , and its star fractured and hour, and its star fractured and it took seven silver screws in it, you know, horrible. but shoulders wrenched out not just fall out, wrenched out. most bones broken. but the probably the potentially worst was concussion. i was a little fat fellow and i used to get concussion out. i'd go and land on my head and they were going to warn me off if it continued, really. so even though it happened so fast past a fall, you were then under the guillotine , almost had time when guillotine, almost had time when you're going out to think, oh , you're going out to think, oh, my head. so you'd roll up in a ball before you hit the ground and then you'd break your collarbone, dislocate the shoulder again and you lost. and you lost the sight of an eye as and you lost the sight of an eye oe wett. — and you lost the sight of an eye as well. yeah. _ and you lost the sight of an eye as well. yeah. yeah.- and you lost the sight of an eye as well. yeah. / and you lost the sight of an eye as well. yeah. “43?" grir as well. yeah. yeah. i got kicked to two feet in the face and reconstructive surgery and the optic nerve was was damaged . so, you know, but all this stuff that you're going through another jump, jockeys are going through, do you suffer with confidence getting back on a

horse? no. you love it. you are mot.— horse? no. you love it. you are mot. orent— horse? no. you love it. you are mot. orent you— horse? no. you love it. you are mad, aren't you ?_ horse? no. you love it. you are mad, aren't you ? but- , no. you love it. you are mad, aren't you ? but the moment mad, aren't you? but the moment you youre— mad, aren't you? but the moment you youre not— mad, aren't you? but the moment you you're not excited about it , vou— you you're not excited about it . you know.— you you're not excited about it . you know. go— you you're not excited about it , you know, go out— you you're not excited about it , you know, go out and do eometnbng— , you know, go out and do something else.- , you know, go out and do something else. now, you rode bbg— something else. now, you rode some big winners.— something else. now, you rode some big winners. yeah. as the yeore— some big winners. yeah. as the yeore went— some big winners. yeah. as the yeore went by.— some big winners. yeah. as the years went by, you— some big winners. yeah. as the years went by, you know, the wbng— years went by, you know, the tbng eeorge— years went by, you know, the king george the— years went by, you know, the king george the sixth whitbread and king george the sixth whitbread ont tnbnge— king george the sixth whitbread and things like— king george the sixth whitbread and things like this. but i mean yeon— and things like this. but i mean yeon enombbon— and things like this. but i mean yeah champion wonderful races tnot— yeah champion wonderful races tnot you— yeah champion wonderful races tnot you won— yeah champion wonderful races that you won but— yeah champion wonderful races that you won but i— yeah champion wonderful races that you won but i mean the gront— that you won but i mean the grand national— that you won but i mean the grand national this extraordinary . race and you grand national this— extraordinary . race and you were extraordinary. race and you were eeont— extraordinary. race and you were eeont ont— extraordinary. race and you were eeont ont o— extraordinary. race and you were second and a couple of times in the second and a couple of times in tbe gront— second and a couple of times in tbe gront but— second and a couple of times in the grand but one— second and a couple of times in the grand but one of your rides in the grand but one of your rides bn tne— the grand but one of your rides bn tne oront— the grand but one of your rides in the grand national even tnougn— in the grand national even tnougn bt-e— in the grand national even though it's 50— in the grand national even though it's 50 years this year yeon— though it's 50 years this year yeon be— though it's 50 years this year yeon be one— though it's 50 years this year yeah is one of— though it's 50 years this year yeah is one of the ones and you know.— yeah is one of the ones and you know. bn— yeah is one of the ones and you know. bn ten— yeah is one of the ones and you know, in ten days— yeah is one of the ones and you know, in ten days time it's the wotbonot.— know, in ten days time it's the national. and— know, in ten days time it's the national. and when we see the eommentory— national. and when we see the commentary and— national. and when we see the commentary and read papers, commentary and read the papers, tney— commentary and read the papers, tney-obout— commentary and read the papers, tney-obout you- commentary and read the papers, they about you being they will talk about you being on onen— they will talk about you being on crisp, losing— they will talk about you being on crisp, losing by half a tengtn— on crisp, losing by half a tengtn to— on crisp, losing by half a length to red— on crisp, losing by half a length to red rum. oh my god, it's length to red rum. oh my god, be eombng— length to red rum. oh my god, it's coming out— length to red rum. oh my god, it's coming out again. c it's coming out again. but it was so exciting.— it's coming out again. but it was so exciting. the difference why this race has stood the test of time. a red rum went on to win three times and second twice. so so he was a big catalyst in saving the national because it had been sold or was

being sold to bill davis, a property developer. you know, so everyone in racing got together, but we went off in front. he had won the two mile champion chase. he's now going over four and a half miles with top weight. you would anyone with brains would say, right, you put him out the back as if you when you were in your jogging back as if you when you were in yourjogging days, back as if you when you were in your jogging days, you back as if you when you were in yourjogging days, you get him behind a bus, you know, and it pulls you along in the vacuum. but he was an inaya but he was such an inaya enthusiast. you couldn't do that . runners. nigel yeah . noise . 40 runners. nigel yeah. noise cavalry and you cavalry charge. yeah. and you think you if you're in behind, you've picked spot, you're you've picked a spot, you're going it three strides going to jump it three strides away , four horses go across you, away, four horses go across you, you know, so the plan was to make the running and slow it down. usually if a senior jockey down. usually if a seniorjockey is dictating a pace, the others might listen. but crisp loved jump might listen. but crisp loved jump and galloping and you. so we set off in the inside where the brave men went. the drops were steeper, the turns were shorter, or going around the

inside . and he gradually, inside. and he gradually, through quickness of jumping, got his his lead and coming past the stands for the first time 25 lengths in front and that in itself you know i'm used to noise and jockeys shouting and horses exploding when they hit a fence, there was silence . it was fence, there was silence. it was an eerie, eerie feeling . but you an eerie, eerie feeling. but you see, having got him in a rhythm , i didn't want to break the rhythm . um coming second in the rhythm. um coming second in the national famous race acas did you feel you must have felt pleased with the way you'd fidden pleased with the way you'd ridden overall? no otherjockey ridden overall? no other jockey would. i rode a great race. he gave me a great ride until after the last when his his stamina had gone . and you were beaten by had gone. and you were beaten by a had gone. and you were beaten by o greot— had gone. and you were beaten by o greot noree — had gone. and you were beaten by a great horse. yes,— had gone. and you were beaten by a great horse. yes, but,- “er: 3 and you were beaten by a great horse. bb/riter \r gilt a great horse. yes, but, nigel, quite. when it's like a car running out of petrol pricking balloon, once the stamina goes, the old legs, instead of doing that doing that and even his that or doing that and even his ears went up. now , ten days ears went up. now, ten days ttme.— ears went up. now, ten days tbme. bt-e— ears went up. now, ten days tbme. bt-e tne— t. now, ten days time, it's the national i'm going— time, it's the national i'm gobng to— time, it's the national i'm gobng to be— time, it's the national i'm going to be there. i can't wait

to be— going to be there. i can't wait to be tnere. — going to be there. i can't wait to be there. what— going to be there. i can't wait to be there. what have you got for to be there. what have you got tor ue— to be there. what have you got for us, richard— to be there. what have you got for us, richard pitman? what do you toneye— for us, richard pitman? what do you toneye webb— for us, richard pitman? what do you fancy? well, rather borbngty— you fancy? well, rather boringly, because the course has got eoeber— boringly, because the course has got eoeber. — boringly, because the course has got eoeber. bt-e— boringly, because the course has got easier. it's not. _ boringly, because the course has got easier . c boringly, because the course has got easier. . ”rib got easier. it's not. the fences are lower. the beaches brook is now no drop. so it's more of a long staying race. but you've still got to stay four miles and a couple of furlongs. the fence is have to be jumped and the 40 runners. so there's still lots of obstacles. last year's winner, noble yeats, i think he'll win again. he's gone up £19, but he was third in the cheltenham gold cup last month. off level weights , a level off level weights, a level weighted championship, third running on. he is the one to be frightened of. that's the tip of the frightened of. that's the tip of tbe ton — frightened of. that's the tip of tbe ton bnt— frightened of. that's the tip of the top. and there— frightened of. that's the tip of the top. and there is- g: that's the tip of the top. and there is an outebter— the top. and there is an outsider called minella trump at 8 to— outsider called minella trump at 8 to b.— outsider called minella trump at 8 to b. tor— outsider called minella trump at 8 to 1. for those— outsider called minella trump at 8 to 1. for those who want a botbtbeot— 8 to 1. for those who want a political bet,— 8 to 1. for those who want a political bet, he's still an outebter. — political bet, he's still an outsider. richard, for all the ups— outsider. richard, for all the me ont— outsider. richard, for all the ups and downs— outsider. richard, for all the ups and downs of this career tnot— ups and downs of this career tnot you— ups and downs of this career that you clearly— ups and downs of this career that you clearly loved . but that you clearly loved. but euttenty— that you clearly loved. but suddenly, one— that you clearly loved. but suddenly, one minute pitman's the suddenly, one minute pitman's tne rbter— suddenly, one minute pitman's tne rbter ont— suddenly, one minute pitman's the rider and the— suddenly, one minute pitman's the rider and the next minute ne-e— the rider and the next minute me on— the rider and the next minute me on tne— the rider and the next minute he's on the telly. _ the rider and the next minute he's on the telly. yeah you got me— he's on the telly. yeah you got tnbe tob— he's on the telly. yeah you got tnbe tob wbtn— he's on the telly. yeah you got this job with the— he's on the telly. yeah you got this job with the bbc and you etoyet— this job with the bbc and you etoyet tnere — this job with the bbc and you stayed there forever. 15 b�* «rbilrrf�*fif stayed there forever. 37 years. veob. — stayed there forever. 37 years. em. or— stayed there forever. 37 years.

weon. ob yee— stayed there forever. 37 years. yeah. 37 years. but- stayed there forever. 15 b�* «rbilrrf�*fif “43?" 37 years. but you stayed there forever. 15 b�* ”if? “43?" 37 years. but you know, stayed there forever. 15 b�* «rbilrrf�*fif “43?" 37 years. but you know, in yeah. 37 years. but you know, in tboee— yeah. 37 years. but you know, in tnoee. sorry.— yeah. 37 years. but you know, in tnoee. sorry. you— yeah. 37 years. but you know, in those. sorry, you were- “43?" 37 years. but you know, in those. sorry, you were telling me— those. sorry, you were telling me eortber— those. sorry, you were telling me earlier that— those. sorry, you were telling me earlier that your first day were— me earlier that your first day tnere ot— me earlier that your first day tnere ot tne— me earlier that your first day there at the beeb as a commentator, you meet the great sir commentator, you meet the great sbr peter— commentator, you meet the great sir peter o'sullivan _ commentator, you meet the great sir peter o'sullivan , who gives sir peter o'sullivan, who gives you— sir peter o'sullivan, who gives you o— sir peter o'sullivan, who gives you o bbeee — sir peter o'sullivan, who gives you o bbeee ot— sir peter o'sullivan, who gives you a piece of advice. well i mean,.was god- you a piece of advice. well i mean,.was god in- you a piece of advice. well i mean, was god in the bbc, you mean, he was god in the bbc, you know.— mean, he was god in the bbc, you know-teot— mean, he was god in the bbc, you know,-deal with- know, he didn't deal with the brotueer— know, he didn't deal with the brotueer. — know, he didn't deal with the brotueer. ue— know, he didn't deal with the producer . he went- know, he didn't deal with the producer . ri i know, he didn't deal with the producer . ri t. know, he didn't deal with the producer . t. producer. he went up to the owner, you or the head of owner, you see, or the head of it. yeah, i went up and said, peter, you know, very humbly, could you give me some advice, please? because i was a jockey, uneducated jockey. one day, four days later, i've got a microphone. he said, yes, richard , keep talking rubbish. richard, keep talking rubbish. just like you did as a jockey. you'll be fine . a lot of us, you'll be fine. a lot of us, millions of us are sports fans . millions of us are sports fans. you know, some some of us love all you know, some some of us love ott eoorte— you know, some some of us love or eborte. some— you know, some some of us love all sports. some like individual eborte— all sports. some like individual eborte .— all sports. some like individual eborte . wnot— all sports. some like individual eborte . wnot be— all sports. some like individual sports . what is it? you did it sports. what is it? you did it for sports. what is it? you did it tor otte— sports. what is it? you did it for all? what— sports. what is it? you did it for all? what is— sports. what is it? you did it for all? what is it that makes a goot— for all? what is it that makes a goot eborte— for all? what is it that makes a good sports commentator? you ueet— good sports commentator? you ueet to— good sports commentator? you used to protest— good sports commentator? you used to protest the time you goot— used to protest the time you goot ot— used to protest the time you were good at it.— used to protest the time you were good at it. what what are the were good at it. what what are tne guotbtbee— were good at it. what what are the qualities ? _ were good at it. what what are the qualities ? o“ grir the qualities? oh, you've got to know your horses and the colours. i watch american jumping now. it's pathetic. eight runners in a race and they

don't. they don't see the fallers. don't pick up. fallers. don't pick them up. you know, for here 40 runners know, over for here 40 runners and peter o'sullivan used to hand over to john hamner going to the first 40 runners with the sun behind them. they look like 40 black blobs. and he had to identify him. and often at the first you'd get 12 fallers or, you know yeah. homework erg you know, yeah. so homework erg homework and a way of speaking yes but more colour of the horse you know there's a grey horse in it. this year. a lot of ladies will want to back a grey horse, but also style of jockey. you know, some will ride with a level back, others will be upright a bit. level back, others will be upright a bit . you know, some upright a bit. you know, some have their backside in the air. you've got to know your stuff. bow— you've got to know your stuff. bow be— you've got to know your stuff. bow be tt— you've got to know your stuff. how is it, richard— you've got to know your stuff. how is it, richard pitman, for tne— how is it, richard pitman, for tne boy— how is it, richard pitman, for tne boy tnot— how is it, richard pitman, for the boy that failed nine o—tewete— the boy that failed nine o—levels that- the boy that failed nine o—levels that the last few o—levels that in the last few yeore— o—levels that in the last few yeore you-e— o—levels that in the last few years you've produced books? oh— years you've produced books? on. web.— years you've produced books? oh, well, that's— years you've produced books? oh, well, that's easy- years you've produced books? oh, well, that's easy enough. yeah, but i haven't written one for 25 years. i could only sell 20,000, which a lot of people will be delighted to sell. but it was a lot of work. when i'm

doing other things, i have actually two books in my desk drawer now. one is being on being illustrated at and the other one was for a film and they loved it until it went about four floors up and then the guy in charge said , i want the guy in charge said, i want a few more twists here. i want a girl rider who's been abused and is from an african country. so i said, look, i, i don't want to research this so i can make that into a book. but you've got more boote— into a book. but you've got more boote to— into a book. but you've got more boote to go— into a book. but you've got more boote to go ont— into a book. but you've got more books to go and a— into a book. but you've got more books to go and a final- but you've got more books to go and a final thought, btbenort— books to go and a final thought, richard pitman,— books to go and a final thought, richard pitman, you were reeentty— richard pitman, you were reeentty o— richard pitman, you were recently a kidney donor. what brombtet— recently a kidney donor. what prompted that?— recently a kidney donor. what prompted that? a friend of mine had prompted that? a friend of mine not not— prompted that? a friend of mine not not two— prompted that? a friend of mine had had two in— prompted that? a friend of mine had had two in his— prompted that? a friend of mine had had two in his life and he wouttn-t— had had two in his life and he wouldn't take— had had two in his life and he wouldn't take a— had had two in his life and he wouldn't take a live one. ' “r: wouldn't take a live one. and i wben— wouldn't take a live one. and i wben be— wouldn't take a live one. and i saw when he got— wouldn't take a live one. and i saw when he got one from an accident, i saw what it did to him. it changed the man's life. and i thought, well, if it can do my friend tim do that for my friend tim gibson, it to someone gibson, i can give it to someone else. most satisfying thing i've ever meeting ever done, apart from meeting you. well, that's very, very goot— you. well, that's very, very goot ot— you. well, that's very, very goot ot you. — well, that's very, very good of you. thank you for tobnbng— good of you. thank you for tobnbng-bnt— good of you. thank you for tobnbng-bnt b- good of you. thank you for joining and i will see you .

joining me. and i will see you. con— joining me. and i will see you. con b— joining me. and i will see you. con b bust— joining me. and i will see you. con btuet gbwe— joining me. and i will see you. can i just give you— joining me. and i will see you. can i just give you one- joining me. and i will see you. can i just give you one thing? oh, here we go. there are two horses. if you go by names, as you know, but one is like you, mr. incredible. right and the other one is how you used to be. the big dog . we are not here to the big dog. we are not here to give advice on gambling . give advice on gambling. richard pitman, thank you. give advice on gambling. - richard pitman, thank you. thank you very— richard pitman, thank you. thank you very bottbe— richard pitman, thank you. thank you very doddie aid . okay, it's you very doddie aid. okay, it's ttme— you very doddie aid. okay, it's tbme tor— you very doddie aid. okay, it's time for farage_ you very doddie aid. okay, it's time for farage the farage. what boee— time for farage the farage. what toee totoy-e— time for farage the farage. what does today's crop _ time for farage the farage. what does today's crop hold for me? btobert— does today's crop hold for me? btobert oebe— does today's crop hold for me? btobert oete .— does today's crop hold for me? robert asks . are— does today's crop hold for me? robert asks . are we looking at robert asks. are we looking at the robert asks. are we looking at tne etort— robert asks. are we looking at tne etort ot— robert asks. are we looking at tne etort ot o— robert asks. are we looking at the start of a second civil war in the start of a second civil war bn bmerbeoe— the start of a second civil war in america? robert we hope and pray— in america? robert we hope and toy tnot— in america? robert we hope and toy tnot were— in america? robert we hope and pray that we're not. but the worry. — pray that we're not. but the worry. ont— pray that we're not. but the worry. ont b— pray that we're not. but the worry, and i expressed it yeetertoy— worry, and i expressed it yesterday quite fully and i tnbnt— yesterday quite fully and i tnbnt wort— yesterday quite fully and i think mark brnovich, the former ottorney— think mark brnovich, the former attorney general,— think mark brnovich, the former attorney general, you know, of brbzono— attorney general, you know, of brbzono. eobt— attorney general, you know, of arizona, said if— attorney general, you know, of arizona, said if people lose confidence— arizona, said if people lose confidence in— arizona, said if people lose confidence in the legal system, boee— confidence in the legal system, lose confidence _ confidence in the legal system, lose confidence us in the botbtbeot— lose confidence us in the political system and lose confidence— political system and lose confidence in— political system and lose confidence in democracy , then confidence in democracy, then bn o very.— confidence in democracy, then

we're in a very, very worrying wooe— we're in a very, very worrying btoee. wny— we're in a very, very worrying btoee. wny tne— we're in a very, very worrying place. why the democrat want to bueb— place. why the democrat want to buen tnbe— place. why the democrat want to buen tnbe tne — place. why the democrat want to push this the way— place. why the democrat want to push this the way they do . i push this the way they do. i ton-t— push this the way they do. i don't understand. it's almost as if don't understand. it's almost as bt tney-re— don't understand. it's almost as bt tney-re trybng— don't understand. it's almost as if they're trying to— don't understand. it's almost as if they're trying to provoke republicans— if they're trying to provoke republicans supporters into benowbng— republicans supporters into behaving badly. it's dangerous, it's behaving badly. it's dangerous, bt-e bot.— behaving badly. it's dangerous, bt-e bot. ont— behaving badly. it's dangerous, it's bad, and it's— behaving badly. it's dangerous, it's bad, and it's wrong on every— it's bad, and it's wrong on every beret— it's bad, and it's wrong on every tewet .— it's bad, and it's wrong on every level . alex asks alex, every level. alex asks alex, uoneetty.— every level. alex asks alex, honestly, how— every level. alex asks alex, honestly, how can i answer this? wnot— honestly, how can i answer this? wnot to— honestly, how can i answer this? wnot to you— honestly, how can i answer this? wnot to you note— honestly, how can i answer this? what do you hope to achieve by your— what do you hope to achieve by your next— what do you hope to achieve by your next birthday? alex i hope by my— your next birthday? alex i hope by my next— your next birthday? alex i hope by my next birthday to be a tbttte— by my next birthday to be a tbttte bbt— by my next birthday to be a little bit fitter— by my next birthday to be a little bit fitter than i am now. bbm— little bit fitter than i am now. b-m not— little bit fitter than i am now. b-m not tobng— little bit fitter than i am now. i'm not doing too— little bit fitter than i am now. i'm not doing too badly really , i'm not doing too badly really, gbwen— i'm not doing too badly really, gbwen now— i'm not doing too badly really, gbwen now twe— i'm not doing too badly really, given how i've lived much of the toet— given how i've lived much of the toet bo— given how i've lived much of the toet be ye — given how i've lived much of the last 40 years. but— given how i've lived much of the last 40 years. but i'd like to be o— last 40 years. but i'd like to be o tbttte— last 40 years. but i'd like to be a little bit— last 40 years. but i'd like to be a little bit fitter by my next— be a little bit fitter by my next birthday.— be a little bit fitter by my next birthday. i've got time for tbory— next birthday. i've got time for one more. mary asks, joining the cp one more. mary asks, joining the ctr cbbbb— one more. mary asks, joining the ctr cbbbb ont— one more. mary asks, joining the cp cptpp and the— one more. mary asks, joining the cp cptpp and the aukus deal euggeete— cp cptpp and the aukus deal euggeete tnot— cp cptpp and the aukus deal suggests that the— cp cptpp and the aukus deal suggests that the tories are trybng— suggests that the tories are trybng to— suggests that the tories are trybng to mote— suggests that the tories are trying to make brexit work. are you— trying to make brexit work. are you gettbng— trying to make brexit work. are you gettbng o— trying to make brexit work. are you getting a little bit more obtbmbetbee— you getting a little bit more optimistic? mary you know, it's a optimistic? mary you know, it's o goot— optimistic? mary you know, it's o goot tnbng— optimistic? mary you know, it's a good thing. you— optimistic? mary you know, it's a good thing. you know, if we ebgn— a good thing. you know, if we ebgn ub— a good thing. you know, if we ebgn up to— a good thing. you know, if we ebgn up to o— a good thing. you know, if we sign up to a trade— a good thing. you know, if we sign up to a trade deals that mote— sign up to a trade deals that mote tt— sign up to a trade deals that make it more— sign up to a trade deals that make it more difficult for us to retobn— make it more difficult for us to retobn tne— make it more difficult for us to rejoin the european union, tnot-e— rejoin the european union, tnot-e o— rejoin the european union, tnot-e o goot— rejoin the european union, that's a good thing. fascinating now— that's a good thing. fascinating now tne— that's a good thing. fascinating how the financial— that's a good thing. fascinating how the financial times and the neon— how the financial times and the metbo oe— how the financial times and the media are playing— how the financial times and the media are playing down any botentbot— media are playing down any potential benefits from signing

up wbtn— potential benefits from signing up wbtn pretty— potential benefits from signing up with pretty much the fastest growbng — up with pretty much the fastest growbng trote— up with pretty much the fastest growing trade bloc in the world. but growing trade bloc in the world. but-wnot— growing trade bloc in the world. but-wnot we— growing trade bloc in the world. but-what we have- growing trade bloc in the world. but what we have to fight but that's what we have to fight out.— but that's what we have to fight out-conservatives- but that's what we have to fight out. conservatives ever so out. the conservatives ever so etowty— out. the conservatives ever so etowty oe— out. the conservatives ever so slowly are getting— out. the conservatives ever so slowly are getting into the rbgnt—eo- slowly are getting into the right so slowly, slowly are getting into the- right_so slowly, but right place ever so slowly, but on mony— right place ever so slowly, but on mony otner— right place ever so slowly, but on many other things , on many other things, particularly- on many other things, particularly the cross—channel boote— particularly the cross—channel boote .— particularly the cross—channel boote . tney-re — particularly the cross—channel boats , they're failing pretty boats, they're failing pretty mbeerobty— boats, they're failing pretty mbeerobty .— boats, they're failing pretty miserably . but— boats, they're failing pretty miserably . but that's my view. miserably. but that's my view. bnt— miserably. but that's my view. ant b— miserably. but that's my view. ant b towe— miserably. but that's my view. and i love saying— miserably. but that's my view. and i love saying these things. betore— and i love saying these things. betore b— and i love saying these things. before i introduced jacob bteee—tbogg— before i introduced jacob rees—mogg because it really ubeete— rees—mogg because it really ubeete-yoeob— rees—mogg because it really upsets jacob nothing upsets upsets him. jacob nothing upsets me. upsets him. jacob nothing upsets wou— upsets him. jacob nothing upsets you muet— upsets him. jacob nothing upsets me. you must know— upsets him. jacob nothing upsets me. you must know that now. i know.— me. you must know that now. i know-ore— me. you must know that now. i know-ore you— me. you must know that now. i know. are you going on this know. what are you going on this ewenbng— know. what are you going on this ewenbng. roeob— know. what are you going on this evening, jacob we're going to etort— evening, jacob we're going to etort-mommy- evening, jacob we're going to start-nanny state. start with the nanny state beuee— start with the nanny state. because we're being told we muetn-t— because we're being told we muetn-t uee— because we're being told we mustn't use power showers and tnot— mustn't use power showers and tnot-enoutt— mustn't use power showers and that-should be- mustn't use power showers and that should be more that there should be more eyntoxee— that there should be more syntaxes now,— that there should be more syntaxes now, i'm a great one for syntaxes now, i'm a great one tor — syntaxes now, i'm a great one tor b— syntaxes now, i'm a great one for nannies. i think- syntaxes now, i'm a great one for nannies. i think nannies are the backbone of britain, but we don't want to be told what to do by the government. and we're going to be talking about the road system as well. and why is there continued against there this continued war against there this continued war against the all ties in the motorist. it all ties in with nanny state with with the nanny state approach. yeah. robert approach. yeah. so robert rennet— approach. yeah. so robert jenrick got— t yeah. so robert jenrick got banned for driving, tobng— jenrick got banned for driving, tobng ee— jenrick got banned for driving, tobng be ont— jenrick got banned for driving, doing 68 and 40— jenrick got banned for driving, doing 68 and 40 and a big doing 68 and 40 and got a big ttme.— doing 68 and 40 and got a big ttme-know— doing 68 and 40 and got a big fine.-know what- doing 68 and 40 and got a big fine. know what i've driven fine. you know what i've driven for fine. you know what i've driven tor-yeore— fine. you know what i've driven tor-yeoreltne— fine. you know what i've driven for years the motorway for 40 years on the motorway wbtnout— for 40 years on the motorway withoutlsingle_ for 40 years on the motorway without single speeding without a single speeding tbetet—

without a single speeding tbetet-b- without a single speeding ticket.-i could. without a single speeding ticket. i could lose without a single speeding- ticket.-i could lose my ticket. but now i could lose my tbeenee— ticket. but now i could lose my tbeenee bn— ticket. but now i could lose my licence in ten— ticket. but now i could lose my licence in ten minutes smart licence in ten minutes on smart motorwoye— motorways. well that's the brobtem. — motorways. well that's the. problem. _these motorways. well that's the- problem. _these 40 problem. and they set these 40 mile hour limits for mile an hour limits for roadworks where they're not doing anything and it on doing anything and it goes on and on. himars over there on the embontment. — and on. himars over there on the embankment. it's— and on. himars over there on the embankment. it's a— and on. himars over there on the embankment. it's a 20— e“r: “bib“ himars over there on the embankment. it's a 20 mile an nour— embankment. it's a 20 mile an tour-ze— embankment. it's a 20 mile an hour-24 hours— embankment. it's a 20 mile an hour-24 hourslday,- hour limit, 24 hours a day, wnben—we- hour limit, 24 hours a day,| which _we could hour limit, 24 hours a day,- which _we could go hour limit, 24 hours a day,- which_we could go on which is bonkers. we could go on borer-er we— which is bonkers. we could go on forever. we-but_ which is bonkers. we could go on forever. we-but we - which is bonkers. we could go on forever. we but we can't forever. we could, but we can't beuee— forever. we could, but we can't beeouee—wnot because we've got to see what tne— because we've got to see what tne-bmbortont— because we've got to see what. the-important-holds the all important weather holds in the all important weather holds bnue- — the all important weather holds bnue- bebo— the all important weather holds in us. hello there. in store for us. hello there. b-m — in store for us. hello there. b-m oreg— in store for us. hello there. i'm greg dewhurst- in store for us. hello there. i'm greg dewhurst and- in store for us. hello there. i'm greg dewhurst and welcome to your latest broadcast from the met office. there is quite lot met office. there is quite a lot of the the of cloud across the uk at the moment. outbreaks of rain followed by heavy showers, but it turn drier from it should turn drier from friday and easter weekend. low and into the easter weekend. low pressure at pressure in charge at the moment, that cloudier, moment, bringing that cloudier, wetter but will see wetter weather, but we will see through friday and through into good friday and into pressure into the weekend. high pressure starting to move settles starting to move in, settles things down for the vast majority of weekend. so this majority of the weekend. so this evening, a lot of cloud across the uk. outbreaks of rain pushing slowly eastward. some heavier bursts possible turning dner heavier bursts possible turning drier into the early hours from the west. but the risk of some heavy showers, particularly over northern during the northern ireland during the early hours, temperatures holding up above freezing holding up well above freezing

due to the cloud and outbreaks of rain. but it means quite a grey start to thursday morning. we glimmers of we will see some glimmers of sunshine north and the sunshine in the north and the west. but this will be also accompanied by some heavy showers. move through showers. and as we move through the showers will the day, the showers will develop, particularly across england wales. some them england and wales. some of them could thundery at could be heavy and thundery at times. to just times. rain continuing to just hold on to the northern isles. but best of the sunnier weather across scotland northern across scotland and northern ireland. reaching ireland. temperatures reaching the the uk into the mid—teens across the uk into the mid—teens across the uk into the evening time on thursday. we see an increased risk of those showers turning to longer spells of rain across eastern parts of england. but overnight we'll see clearing skies for the rest of the uk under those clear skies, temperatures will start to drop away and we'll see a frost returning, particularly across parts of northern ireland into scotland. temperatures here falling to freezing. if not below, but just holding up in the south—east where we hold on to that cloud and rain. so it'll be a bit of a cloudy start across the far south—east to begin morning. and then begin friday morning. and then generally majority generally for the vast majority of day, blue skies for much

of the day, blue skies for much of the day, blue skies for much of the day, blue skies for much of the uk though, across eastern counties of england, thicker cloud , patchy light rain and cloud, patchy light rain and drizzle is possible at times. temperatures again

hello. good evening. it's me, jacob - hello. good evening. it's me, roeob bteee-tbogg— . hello. good evening. it's me, jacob rees—mogg on— . hello. good evening. it's me, jacob rees—mogg on the- hello. good evening. it's me, jacob rees—mogg on the bill of tore— jacob rees—mogg on the bill of tore tonbgbt— jacob rees—mogg on the bill of fare tonight, state— jacob rees—mogg on the bill of fare tonight, state of the notbon. — fare tonight, state of the nation. for— fare tonight, state of the nation. for starters, it's the nonny— nation. for starters, it's the nonny etote.— nation. for starters, it's the nanny state, the- nation. for starters, it's the nanny state, the perennial brobtem — nanny state, the perennial problem posed— nanny state, the perennial problem posed by the pestilent proponente— problem posed by the pestilent proponente ot— problem posed by the pestilent proponents of new labour. trot.— proponents of new labour. tbret. tney— proponents of new labour. first, they took— proponents of new labour. first, they took your- first, they took your cigarettes. now they're after your— cigarettes. now they're after your tote.— cigarettes. now they're after your core. obe— cigarettes. now they're after your cake, ale and- rt. 3 now they're after your cake, ale and power showers for your cake, ale and power showers tor mobne— your cake, ale and power showers tor wbtt— your cake, ale and power showers for mains will be— your cake, ale and power showers for mains will be tucking in to the relentless— for mains will be tucking in to the relentless war— for mains will be tucking in to the relentless war motorists. the relentless war on motorists. wben— the relentless war on motorists. wben enott— the relentless war on motorists. when shall we _ the relentless war on motorists. when shall we start investing in the infrastructure— when shall we start investing in the infrastructure that actually motteree— the infrastructure that actually motteree eur— the infrastructure that actually matters? our motorways and o—roote— matters? our motorways and a—roads_wasting| matters? our motorways and. a—roads_wasting it a—roads rather than wasting it on tne— a—roads rather than wasting it on the bloated— a—roads rather than wasting it on the bloated and flailing beoet— on the bloated and flailing beoet tnot— on the bloated and flailing beast that is— on the bloated and flailing beast that is hs2. and for the ruttbng— beast that is hs2. and for the buttbng. not— beast that is hs2. and for the buttbng. not eo— beast that is hs2. and for the pudding, not so much a souffle of pudding, not so much a souffle ot tetbgbt— pudding, not so much a souffle of delight, but— pudding, not so much a souffle of delight, but the day of the