welcome back to gb news. i'm arron armstrong. and get arron armstrong. and let's get you up date with the latest you up to date with the latest headunes. you up to date with the latest headlines . we'll with some headlines. we'll start with some breaking concern lviv breaking news. the concern lviv mp benton had the mp scott benton has had the party whip suspended after being filmed gambling filmed offering to help gambling industry lobbyists in exchange for financial reward. an undercover sting by the times newspaper revealed mr. benton being prepared to leak market sensitive information to an investment fund. an aide to ask parliamentary questions on its behalf in breach of parliamentary lobbying rules . parliamentary lobbying rules. mr. benton referred himself to the parliamentary commissioner for standards. the parliamentary commissioner for standards . the the parliamentary commissioner for standards. the snp's former chief executive, peter murrell, has been released without charge pending further investigation .

pending further investigation. he was arrested earlier while police searched the home. he shares with his wife, nicola sturgeon, along with the party headquarters. it is part of a probe into the snp's finances, including £600,000 set aside for the independence campaign. ms. sturgeon has insisted she had no pnor sturgeon has insisted she had no prior knowledge of police plans or intentions ahead of her shock resignation in february and says she will fully cooperate with the investigation . the the investigation. the government is set to clash with a conservative mp and council in dorset , a conservative mp and council in dorset, along a conservative mp and council in dorset , along with a conservative mp and council in dorset, along with human rights groups as a result of plans to house asylum seekers on a giant barge. the home office says the bibby stock home, which is set to take up to 500 migrants for at least 18 months, will be cheaper than hotels. however the tory mp for south dorset and the local conservative council have pledged to pursue a legal challenge to prevent it. amnesty international has dismissed it as political theatre to obscure the government's mismatch of the

asylum system. however, the prime minister has defended the plans we're spending as a country £6 million a day housing an illegal asylum seekers in hotels. that can't be right. u-ve— hotels. that can't be right. i've committed _ hotels. that can't be right. i've committed to- that can't be right. i've committed to reducing that web— i've committed to reducing that number, moving— i've committed to reducing that number, moving asylum seekers out of— number, moving asylum seekers out of hotels— number, moving asylum seekers out of hotels ,— number, moving asylum seekers out of hotels , and— number, moving asylum seekers out of hotels , and that means we out of hotels, and that means we need— out of hotels, and that means we need ne— out of hotels, and that means we need to fine— out of hotels, and that means we need to find alternative sites and— need to find alternative sites and including— need to find alternative sites and including barges like the one we've brought brought forward— one we've brought brought forward today— one we've brought brought forward today that's going to ene— forward today that's going to save the taxpayer money, reduce pressure . en— save the taxpayer money, reduce pressure . on hotels. i?" pressure. on hotels. 21 people neve— pressure. on hotels. 21 people have been convicted for their role in the biggest child sex abuse cases ever investigated by west midlands police . the west midlands police. the abusers committed the offences against seven children up to the age of 12 or over almost a decade in the walsall and wolverhampton areas. after several trials , the last of several trials, the last of which concluded this month, 13 people have now been jailed with sentences up to and including life in prison. four others are yet to be sentenced eight sir keir starmer has promised to introduce specialist rape courts if labour wins the next election

. an government analysis shows the number of rape survivors dropping their case has more than doubled since 2015. labour's pledge comes amid record backlog in the courts, meaning victims face an average three year wait for justice. sir keir says the state of the justice system under the conservatives is a national scandal. tv online dab+ radio and on tune in. this is gb news. now it's time for headliners . now it's time for headliners. hello and welcome to headliners. with me andrew doyle. and joining— with me andrew doyle. and rernrng ne— with me andrew doyle. and joining me tonight are the two nesr— joining me tonight are the two best comedians— joining me tonight are the two best comedians that the budget soure— best comedians that the budget eeuru buv- — best comedians that the budget could buy. we've— best comedians that the budget could buy. we've got josh howie enu— could buy. we've got josh howie unu unn— could buy. we've got josh howie and nick dixon.— could buy. we've got josh howie and nick dixon. how are you both 7 and nick dixon. how are you both ? happy?— and nick dixon. how are you both e happy? ner— and nick dixon. how are you both .7 happy? not happy at and nick dixon. how are you both ? happy? not happy at that comment,-know. ? happy? not happy at that- comment,-know you're comment, nick. i know you're very grumpy. all the comment, nick. ”c; rig g all the budget comment, nick. ”c; ”q gt all the budget went very grumpy. all the budget went on very grumpy. all the budget went en-enurrs.— very grumpy. all the budget went en-enurrsluru— very grumpy. all the budget went on-chairs..did go— very grumpy. all the budget went on-chairs..did go on- very grumpy. all the budget went on-chairs..did go on the- on the chairs. it did go on the enun— on the chairs. it did go on the enurr. rnese— on the chairs. it did go on the chair. these are— on the chairs. it did go on the chair. these are beautiful enurrs— chairs, but unfortunately, we sun-r—ure-

chairs, but unfortunately, wei sun-uer— you can't see them. how are you, josh? — can't see them. how are you, josh? rm— can't see them. how are you, josh? r-nn genu— can't see them. how are you, josh? g: : josh? i'm good. today is. i've been cooking all day. it's pass over today, so i've— been cooking all day. it's pass over today, so i've just- " f g an? it's pass over today, so i've just come fren— over today, so i've just come from my— over today, so i've just come from my big— over today, so i've just come from my big family meal. are you a i from my big family meal. are you u—r rnrnn— from my big family meal. are you u—r rnrnk you-u- from my big family meal. are you a_| think you'd have. a good cook? i think you'd have to a good cook? i think you'd have re re— a good cook? i think you'd have re re unn— a good cook? i think you'd have to be with all— a good cook? i think you'd have to be with all those “in; to be with all those kids. yes, but,— to be with all those kids. yes, bur. vou— to be with all those kids. yes, but, you know. but- to be with all those kids. “in; but then. because but, you know. but then. because you neve— but, you know. but then. because you nuve re— but, you know. but then. because you nove ro soon— but, you know. but then. because you have to cook so— but then. because you have to cook so many unrerenr— you have to cook so many different—this. you have to cook so many. different—this one, different meals. but this one, rney— different meals. but this one, rney-nnor— different meals. but this one, rney-nnor r- different meals. but this one, they what i cooked and they just get what i cooked and i they just get what i cooked and r — they just get what i cooked and rues une— they just get what i cooked and i was like, just— they just get what i cooked and i was like, just be— they just get what i cooked and i was like, just be grateful we're not slaves anymore in egypt-— we're not slaves anymore in roypr.—nessnue| we're not slaves anymore in- egypt. _message there, egypt. very nice message there, josh we're going to josh well, we're going to be having a look at thursday's newspapers. we're going to start unn— newspapers. we're going to start urrn—rne- newspapers. we're going to start nrrn—rne dailvl with the front pages, the daily nou— with the front pages, the daily non rs— with the front pages, the daily mail is leading— with the front pages, the daily mail is leading with a question is mail is leading with a question rs rnrs— mail is leading with a question rs rnrs-reor— mail is leading with a question is this-real reason- mail is leading with a question is this real reason why is this the real reason why srurgeon— is this the real reason why sturgeon-out? i is this the real reason why sturgeon out? ' r: is this the real reason why- sturgeon-out? and this is sturgeon walked out? and this is the turning at the the police turning up at the house? we'll this in house? we'll get into this in a rnornenr — house? we'll get into this in a rnornenr rne— , we'll get into this in a moment. the telegraph has police rose— moment. the telegraph has police rose quesrrons— moment. the telegraph has police face questions over— moment. the telegraph has police face questions over possible delay— face questions over possible oeroylorresr— face questions over possible delay-arrest over- face questions over possible delay arrest over sturgeon's delay to arrest over sturgeon's none.— delay to arrest over sturgeon's none. rne— delay to arrest over sturgeon's home. the guardian goes in a eonprerery— home. the guardian goes in a completely-angle. home. the guardian goes in a completely angle with completely different angle with royals— completely different angle with royals rook— completely different angle with royals took billion in royals took 1.2 billion in prune— royals took 1.2 billion in private income from estates. were— private income from estates. were gong— private income from estates. were gong-ger— private income from estates. we're going lgetlthat- private income from estates. we're going-getlthat ini private income from estates. i we're going-getlthat in a we're going to get to that in a minute well. the financial minute as well. the financial rrnes— minute as well. the financial times-ukraine— minute as well. the financial times-ukraine ready- the financial times ukraine ready for times has ukraine ready for cnneo. — times has ukraine ready for crimea. _kremlinl times has ukraine ready for. crimea.-kremlin. times has ukraine ready for- crimea.-kremlin. if crimea. talks with kremlin. if counter—offensive— crimea. talks with kremlin. �*" crimea. talks with kremlin. if counter—offensive succeeds the mirror, you can end this cruelty. now, what's stopping you— cruelty. now, what's stopping you anu— cruelty. now, what's stopping youe one rne— cruelty. now, what's stopping you? and the star— f now, what's stopping you? and the star has boffins. vou— you? and the star has boffins. you eon-r—

you? and the star has boffins. you don't need— you? and the star has boffins. you don't need a— you? and the star has boffins. you don't need a brain after err.— you don't need a brain after ou- rnor-s— you don't need a brain after all. that's that's- you don't need a brain after all. that's that's good news, rsn-r— all. that's that's good news, rsn-r ne— all. that's that's good news, isn't it? those— all. that's that's good news, isn't it? those were thursday's nonr— isn't it? those were thursday's rronr pages.— isn't it? those were thursday's rronr ones so— isn't it? those were thursday's front pages. so kicking off with the front pages. so kicking off with rne derry— front pages. so kicking off with the daily mail,— front pages. so kicking off with the daily mail, what are they reourne— the daily mail, what are they reoorng unn— the daily mail, what are they leading with, george? lr�*r�*iilcc leading with, george? well, the big leading with, george? well, the no one— leading with, george? well, the rug rs.— leading with, george? well, the no is or— leading with, george? well, the big one is, of course, sussexes still won't say if they'll be at the coronation again. that's a massive. i'm just what is going. just tell me. you know what i mean? like, every— just tell me. you know what i mean? like, every day- just tell me. you know what i mean? like, every day i- just tell me. 4:3. , like, every day i wake up mean? like, every day i wake up swearing.— mean? like, every day i wake up swearing-unne— mean? like, every day i wake up sweating-want to- mean? like, every day i wake up sweating-want to know,i sweating. i just want to know, just so you can put me at peace. stop teasing me like this. oh, that's what the sweating is. yes. what did you think it was? what's quite terrifying is that, you sweat when i you know, that i sweat when i wake well, yeah. i didn't wake up. well, yeah. i didn't want to turn over and go. josh, why you sweating? i didn't why are you sweating? i didn't want share why are you sweating? i didn't want-share-with- why are you sweating? i didn't want-share-with the- want to share that with the viewers. -you've - want to share that with the viewers. you've gone there. viewers. but you've gone there. we viewers. but you've gone there. rue-ure— viewers. but you've gone there. rue-rue onse— viewers. but you've gone there. we.live close together,- viewers. but you've gone there. we.live close together, as. we do live close together, as everyone knows. why focus rather rnon— everyone knows. why focus rather rnon your— everyone knows. why focus rather than your sweating— everyone knows. why focus rather than your sweating on— why focus rather than your sweating on the ”g why focus rather than your sweating on the main sron— than your sweating on the main son-nonr— than your sweating on the main srory-rronr or. — than your sweating on the main story-front of. i'll- than your sweating on the main story front of. i'll tell story on the front of. i'll tell you—neeousel story on the front of. i'll tell. you—because it's you why, andrew. because it's a tricky— you why, andrew. because it's a risky-okay.— you why, andrew. because it's a tricky-okay, here- you why, andrew. because it's a tricky _okay, here you - you why, andrew. because it's a tricky grtr tricky one. okay, here you go. is this this real reason? is is this is this real reason? is this should is this the this should it be? is this the

real reason? is this headlines is this real reason? is this real sturgeon walked real reason why sturgeon walked out now we're talking about now they police rocked up this morning sturgeons they police rocked up this mornirand sturgeons they police rocked up this mornirand her sturgeons they police rocked up this mornirand her husband's)ns they police rocked up this mornirand her husband's house. house and her husband's house. now is an ongoing now because this is an ongoing rnresrrgorron— now because this is an ongoing investigation, there certain investigation, there are certain proper—you- investigation, there are certaini proper—you know, properjournalists, as you know, as properjournalists, as you know, osnerrenn— properjournalists, as you know, as -viewers know. - properjournalists, as you know, as viewers know. as the viewers know. so we have been— as the viewers know. so we have been that you are been informed that if you are seeing a question, then seeing this as a question, then legally all okay. here legally it's all okay. so here we go. did they turn we go. here we go. did they turn up to get peter murrell her husband? well, i will answer rnor— husband? well, i will answer that because— husband? well, i will answer that because meryl- 3“ well, i will answer that because meryl has been rereoseu— that because meryl has been released without— that because meryl has been released without charge. rt; r: r: released without charge. he did he released without charge. he did no ger— released without charge. he did he get released— released without charge. he did he get released without charge? no, he was released without energe. — no, he was released without energe. icon— no, he was released without charge. rte" d charge. we can categorically state you're being state that. okay, you're being overly cautious here. we overly cautious here. oh, no, we don't want get in trouble don't want to get in trouble with the authorities here. what i would this, i with the authorities here. what iwould this, i mean, i would ask about this, i mean, of course, these photos were all over the internet today. were they? josh, were. they? very. yes josh, they were. you're me you're going to annoy me tonight, i can tell. very tonight, i can tell. very, very dramatic, nick. and it's just the latest in a sort of problems for the snp. i mean, really, there's a real sense there's a there's a real sense of schadenfreude the of schadenfreude from all of the various people have been various people who have been anti snp for a while. this coming off the back of now humza anti snp for a while. this cominginff the back of now humza anti snp for a while. this comingin charge ack of now humza anti snp for a while. this comingin charge of( of now humza anti snp for a while. this comingin charge of the now humza anti snp for a while. this comingin charge of the party. umza anti snp for a while. this

comingin charge of the party. mza yousaf in charge of the party. that could be a bit of a ursosrer.— that could be a bit of a disaster. what- that could be a bit of a disaster. what do you think, unne— disaster. what do you think, woke-n— disaster. what do you think, nick? it dramatic? ' r: nick? was it dramatic? andrew vern— nick? was it dramatic? andrew venn. unor— nick? was it dramatic? andrew yeah, what schadenfreude? so yeah, what is schadenfreude? so yeah, stick to yeah, we've just got to stick to the facts. josh said, we have the facts. as josh said, we have to be very strict. so they arrived at 7:35 am. and apparently that is fact. apparently had that is a fact. sturgeon knowledge sturgeon had no prior knowledge of and you can see the of it. and, and you can see the papers also struggling a bit because gone because they've gone with scouring garden. scouring the back garden. the officers small and officers opened a small shed and a large plastic storage chest. so that's what we do know. josh they a garden for, so that's what we do know. josh they-a garden for, for- so that's what we do know. josh they-a garden for, for your. they own a garden for, for your order— they own a garden for, for your wider question,— they own a garden for, for your wider question, but they did unne— wider question, but they did nnng o— wider question, but they did nnng o renn— wider question, but they did bring a tent. sorry. you've got youe— bring a tent. sorry. you've got you-re—weul you've got analysis. well, he was a wider question was asking me a wider question about what was the wider question the mean, question about the snp. i mean, it just like the question about the snp. i mean, it just-like the snp- question about the snp. i mean, it just-like the snp have. it just feels like the snp have not— it just feels like the snp have noolror— it just feels like the snp have noolror or— it just feels like the snp have hadllot of bad— it just feels like the snp have had lot of bad luck lately. had a lot of bad luck lately. rney-re— had a lot of bad luck lately. rney-re nou— had a lot of bad luck lately. rney-re too a— had a lot of bad luck lately. they've had a bad— had a lot of bad luck lately. j they've had a bad _they they've had a bad time. they lost their leader famously. yes. now and now they've now there's this and now they've got humza yousaf who's probably the britain. got humza yousaf who's probably thethere's britain. got humza yousaf who's probably thethere's that. britain. got humza yousaf who's probably thethere's that. but britain. got humza yousaf who's probably thethere's that. but of’rritain. got humza yousaf who's probably thethere's that. but of course so there's that. but of course rne— so there's that. but of course rne derry— so there's that. but of course the daily mail— so there's that. but of course the daily mail is— e�*rttt; but of course the daily mail is asking this question— the daily mail is asking this question because a of people question because a lot of people rnouenr— question because a lot of people rnouenr rnor-s— question because a lot of people thought that's confirmed, by the wav- — thought that's confirmed, by the wav- -or— thought that's confirmed, by the nay-or people.— thought that's confirmed, by the way. of people. yes, a lot way. a lot of people. yes, a lot of way. a lot of people. yes, a lot or-rnouenr— way. a lot of people. yes, a lot. of-thought-sturgeon of people thought that sturgeon worked— of people thought that sturgeon| worked—mess walked out because of the mess sne— walked out because of the mess sne-oony— walked out because of the mess sne-oony inro- walked out because of the mess she-party into over- walked out because of the mess she party into over the she got the party into over the gender— she got the party into over the gender-or— she got the party into over the gender of bryson.

gender critical of bryson. nunouun— gender critical of bryson. although there _ gender critical of bryson. although there were- gender critical of bryson. although there were rumours at the because of the ongoings the time because of the ongoings going investigation. yeah, going on investigation. yeah, exactly. also the going on investigation. yeah, exactly. -also the police. exactly. and also the police rurneo— exactly. and also the police turned-uro- exactly. and also the police turned two spades. exactly. and also the police- turned _two spades. two turned up with two spades. two spnues. — turned up with two spades. two sprees-you- turned up with two spades. two spnues. -you were- turned up with two spades. twol spades. _you were going spades. i thought you were going to the end. did to ruin it right at the end. did they, josh, are you they, though, josh, are you sure? i think they definitely i saw spades. so we're going saw two spades. so we're going to saw two spades. so we're going rolurrn— saw two spades. so we're going rolnrrn rnor. — saw two spades. so we're going to .with that. _going- saw two spades. so we're going to .with that. _going to. to go with that. we're going to move on to this— to go with that. we're going to move on to this next story, unten— move on to this next story, unren rs— move on to this next story, unren is o— move on to this next story, which is a bit— move on to this next story, which is a bit safer. this is rne—rnrsl which is a bit safer. this is. the—this one. the financial times. this one. reen— the financial times. this one. teen-sore.— the financial times. this one. veon-sore. - the financial times. this one. yeah,-safe. this- the financial times. this one.| yeah,-safe. this-just yeah, this is safe. this is just nuclear yeah, this is safe. this is justl nuclear—rnrs nuclear war. andrew yeah, this is nuclear war. andrew yeah, this rs-r-n— nuclear war. andrew yeah, this rs-r-n muon— nuclear war. andrew yeah, this is-i'm much happier. is fine. so i'm much happier urrn— is fine. so i'm much happier with nuclear— is fine. so i'm much happier with nuclear believe with nuclear war. believe youi ne—unrorne me, they've gone with ukraine ready— me, they've gone with ukraine ready for— me, they've gone with ukraine ready for crimea— me, they've gone with ukraine ready for crimea talks with nrenun— ready for crimea talks with nrenun n— ready for crimea talks with kremlin if counteroffensive succeeds. _i'm- kremlin if counteroffensive. succeeds. _i'mlbit kremlin if counteroffensive succeeds. _i'mlbit a succeeds. so now i'm a bit of a layman, expert on the layman, not an expert on the war. know is that putin's war. all i know is that putin's the saving the the good one who's saving the saving us from. oh, for goodness ate,— saving us from. oh, for goodness sore—rnel sake, saving the world from the oeeooenr— sake, saving the world from the decadent west. _ sake, saving the world from the decadent west. that's what. is that wrong? is that right? matthew sweet's going that wrong? is that right? . matthew sweet's going-clip that wrong? is that right? . mattforv sweet's going-clip that wrong? is that right? . mattforv sweet who ing lclip mattforv sweet who don't clip mattforv sweet who don't know mattforv sweet,vho don't know mattforv sweet, someone know mattforv sweet, someone whov matthew sweet, someone who unres— matthew sweet, someone who writes long — matthew sweet, someone who writes long threads about gb ueus. — writes long threads about gb news. excellent— writes long threads about gb news. excellent when he ursoerees— disagrees with someone. he's an excellent—nes- excellent journalist. that was my satire there, my putin point was satire there, guys, bit of satire guys, but a little bit of satire there. probably won't guys, but a little bit of satire theiit. unfortunately,rly won't guys, but a little bit of satire theiit. unfortunately, he ivon't guys, but a little bit of satire theiit. unfortunately, he won't. get it. unfortunately, he won't. errone— get it. unfortunately, he won't. prune-year.- get it. unfortunately, he won't. private _yeah, yeah. . get it. unfortunately, he won't. i private _yeah, yeah. not private eye. oh, yeah, yeah. not so much of a fan of me these days anyway, we'll get the days anyway, we'll get to the story you worry. it's story and you don't worry. it's very actually.

very important, actually. kyiv, as it, is as i still pronounce it, is willing to discuss the future of crimea moscow if forces crimea with moscow if forces reached border of russian reached the border of russian occupied so occupied peninsula. and so this is because they is this is new because they haven't talks haven't been open to peace talks for and comes from for a while. and this comes from andrey gorka, which well for a while. and this comes from anrthe gorka, which well for a while. and this comes from anrthe pronunciation 1ich well for a while. and this comes from anrthe pronunciation deputy well be the pronunciation deputy head of office. he's of zelenskyy's office. and he's saying that there might be open to the kremlin saying that there might be open tothis the kremlin saying that there might be open tothis happens. the kremlin saying that there might be open tothis happens. and he kremlin saying that there might be open tothis happens. and this remlin saying that there might be open tothis happens. and this isnlin if this happens. and this is great because it makes it less likely we'll all be blown up. and it and that's very important. it nos—ro- and that's very important. it. nos—ro-ne and that's very important. it- uos—ro-ne o was always going to have to be a neonate— was always going to have to be a diplomatic solution— was always going to have to be a diplomatic solution the diplomatic solution from the roots—nos- looks of things. this was ornennse— looks of things. this was otherwise going to rumble looks of things. this was otiand se going to rumble looks of things. this was otiand se butjoing to rumble looks of things. this was otiand se but asig to rumble looks of things. this was otiand se but as a to rumble looks of things. this was otiand se but as a lot rumble looks of things. this was otiand se but as a lot ofnble on and on. but as a lot of analysts— on and on. but as a lot of analysts have— on and on. but as a lot of analysts have said, need analysts have said, you need a neonate— analysts have said, you need a diplomatic-that- analysts have said, you need a diplomatic that makes diplomatic solution that makes putn— diplomatic solution that makes rurrn rook— diplomatic solution that makes putin look like— diplomatic solution that makes putin look like he's achieved sonernrne— putin look like he's achieved- something—won't something because his ego won't susrorn—noek- something because his ego won't sustain—back to. sustain it. he can't go back to me— sustain it. he can't go back to rne-ono— sustain it. he can't go back to rne-ono soy- sustain it. he can't go back to rne-ono soy tr- sustain it. he can't go back to the-and say it was- the country and say it was all a nose— the country and say it was all a nosrelrrne. — the country and say it was all a waste-time. yeah,- the country and say it was all a waste-time. yeah, i- the country and say it was all a waste time. “cr?" " waste of time. yeah, i mean, look, they were the ukrainians were at beginning to were happy at the beginning to talk because talk about crimea because obviously 2000, but obviously it's been in 2000, but they've so much. now obviously it's been in 2000, but they actually so much. now obviously it's been in 2000, but they actually have so much. now obviously it's been in 2000, but they actually have so rmajorityn you actually have the majority of don't to of the country who don't want to handit of the country who don't want to hand it over, which makes sense. they don't want to anything they don't want to give anything up they don't want to give anything uo—rurrn-si up now. and that's what putin's ousneo— pushed into. you know, the people in kyiv i call it kyiv. you call it kyiv. you say kyiv. vou— you call it kyiv. you say kyiv. you soy— you call it kyiv. you say kyiv. you soy you.— you call it kyiv. you say kyiv. you say kyiv. it's— you call it kyiv. you say kyiv. you say kyiv. it's like that song,— you say kyiv. it's like that song, it's song, tomato and tomato. it's entren— song, tomato and tomato. it's

crueu rte— song, tomato and tomato. it's called the-thing- song, tomato and tomato. it's called the thing off, called the whole thing off, which whole idea why called the whole thing off, whichwe whole idea why called the whole thing off, whichwe callivhole idea why called the whole thing off, whichwe call the e idea why called the whole thing off, whichwe call the whole why called the whole thing off, whichwe call the whole thingy don't we call the whole thing off. also, barcelona. but you eon-r— off. also, barcelona. but you eon-r soy— also, barcelona. but you don't say barcelona, off. also, barcelona. but you. don't say barcelona,-go don't say barcelona, you just go to don't say barcelona, you just go o noono. — don't say barcelona, you just go to madrid. -your_ don't say barcelona, you just go to madrid. . rt to madrid. it's your principal is just so annoying. basically. kyiv say, start? kyiv do you say, good start? kyiv do you say, good start? kyiv is just that it's a place where they ski. god, no. where they ski. oh god, no. gosh. anyway that's too elite for andrew don't ski. for us. andrew we don't ski. you showed yourself. is you really showed yourself. is not— you really showed yourself. is not unere— you really showed yourself. is that where you _ you really showed yourself. is that where you guys meet? i non-r— that where you guys meet? i uon-r sn— that where you guys meet? i don't ski the— that where you guys meet? i don't ski the world. - that where you guys meet? i don't ski the world. i- that where you guys meet? i don't ski the world. i don't that where you guys meet? i don�*i go to ski. i go to bognor ski. i go to ski. i go to bognor if lucky. all right, let's if i'm lucky. all right, let's move one. this is move on now to this one. this is the front cover we're the next front cover we're looking at is the guardian. and they snp they haven't gone with the snp story. gone story. they've actually gone with something completely different. royal family with something completely differt revealed oyal family with something completely differtrevealed inal family with something completely differt revealed in yellowly yeah. revealed in yellow royals took 1.2 billion in private income from estates. this investigation that- t this investigation that they've been carrying — investigation that they've been carrying our— investigation that they've been carrying out shows that this is reun— carrying out shows that this is really runny— carrying out shows that this is really funny though investigation shows king charles and ne— investigation shows king charles and rne tore— investigation shows king charles and the late queen's takings gren— and the late queen's takings grew re— and the late queen's takings grew re roto— and the late queen's takings grew 16 fold in— and the late queen's takings grew 16 fold in elizabeth's reren. — grew 16 fold in elizabeth's reign- neu— grew 16 fold in elizabeth's reign. well, considering that sne— reign. well, considering that sne reigned— reign. well, considering that she reigned for— reign. well, considering that she reigned for pretty much yeon.— she reigned for pretty much ever. yeah. and— she reigned for pretty much ever. yeah. and inflation. and r-n — ever. yeah. and inflation. and r-n nor— ever. yeah. and inflation. and i'm not surprised— ever. yeah. and inflation. and i'm not surprised that the tonnes— i'm not surprised that the takings increased 16 ipp nouron-r— takings increased 16 ipp wouldn't surprise it'd be a 1000 rote. — wouldn't surprise it'd be a 1000 rote. arse.— wouldn't surprise it'd be a 1000 rote. also. uny— wouldn't surprise it'd be a 1000 fold. also, why is— wouldn't surprise it'd be a 1000 fold. also, why is this-

wouldn't surprise it'd be a 1000 fold. tr.rt fold. also, why is this such a front cover news? i mean, the bafic front cover news? i mean, the basic the basic scoop here is front cover news? i mean, the bas royal basic scoop here is front cover news? i mean, the bas royal family:oop here is front cover news? i mean, the bas royal family are» here is front cover news? i mean, the bas royal family are riche is front cover news? i mean, the bas royal family are rich . is front cover news? i mean, the bas royal family are rich . i; the royal family are rich. i kind of that. and i can see kind of knew that. and i can see that this is them kicking the boot into the monarchy and saying, paying so saying, why are we paying so much for the much in taxpayers money for the monarchy? truth is, monarchy? but the truth is, those about whether we those debates about whether we should funding the monarchy those debates about whether we sho not funding the monarchy those debates about whether we sho not dotding the monarchy those debates about whether we sho not dotding an; monarchy those debates about whether we sho not dotding an ignorance( are not to do with an ignorance on public's about on the public's part about how much they receive. all much money they receive. we all know receive a lot of know that they receive a lot of money taxpayer, money from the taxpayer, and we all got a lot of all know they've got a lot of money of their own. but why would know? is any specific would this know? is any specific nusrnern— would this know? is any specific numbers-anu— would this know? is any specific numbers and don't know numbers here? and we don't know exactly where it's all coming from don't know from and we don't even know how much on their how much they spend on their how much they spend on their how much we spend security, for much we spend on security, for example. so the issue the example. so the issue is the secrecy yen— example. so the issue is the secrecy. yeah. and- example. so the issue is the. secrecy. yeah. and-lot secrecy. yeah. and there's a lot of secrecy. yeah. and there's a lot or-anu— secrecy. yeah. and there's a lot or-anu-nns- secrecy. yeah. and there's a lot of-and-has been| of secrecy. and this has been embedded over the over arguably, they're saying queen's reign embedded over the over arguably, they beforeing queen's reign embedded over the over arguably, they beforeing well, een's reign embedded over the over arguably, they before ing well, een' can'tn embedded over the over arguably, theylaccessig well, een' can'tn embedded over the over arguably, theylaccess to well, een' can'tn embedded over the over arguably, theylaccess to wills. een' can'tn embedded over the over arguably, theylaccess to wills. soi' can'tn have access to wills. so there's just opaque . and it just it's very opaque. and it seems like the— rq : and it seems like the guardian, they've son— seems like the guardian, they've son-wove— seems like the guardian, they've sort-we've been- seems like the guardian, they've. sort _we've been looking sort of gone. we've been looking it's hard. this whole it's really hard. this whole article it is article is like how tough it is to stuff, right? and then article is like how tough it is to go, tuff, right? and then article is like how tough it is to go, they'reit? and then article is like how tough it is to go, they're not and then article is like how tough it is to go, they're not actuallyi they go, they're not actually revealing— they go, they're not actually revealing they're just revealing much. they're just eonprornrng— complaining. yeah, basically they're tried they're like, we've really tried hard do story about hard to do a big story about this. nick would it be so bad if

the this. nick would it be so bad if rne royal— this. nick would it be so bad if the royal family— this. nick would it be so bad if the royal family a— nick would it be so bad if the royal family a bit more transparent— the royal family a bit more transparent their transparent about their finances? _ transparent about their finances? -1,- transparent about their finances? _i, i. transparent about their. finances? _i, i feel transparent about their- finances? _i, i feel this finances? well, i, i feel this is the sticking the is the guardian sticking the knife the queen's knife in after the queen's death. know they can the death. they know they can the royals now. royals are vulnerable now. they kind they don't kind of whining that they don't have access. they're have more access. they're saying that is from that the response is from buckingham to that the response is from buc someone to that the response is from buc someone else, to that the response is from buc someone else, work to that the response is from buc someone else, work it to that the response is from buc someone else, work it out to ask someone else, work it out for yourself. you have no right to then why you to know. but then why would you invite guardian that invite the guardian knowing that a newspaper, why a sort of joke newspaper, why would you about letting a sort of joke newspaper, why woulc know about letting a sort of joke newspaper, why woulc know anythingt letting them know anything in my opinion? but then they should let daily do it. they let the daily star do it. they should the star do it, but should let the star do it, but also royals are also also so the royals are also quite defend. it's not quite hard to defend. it's not like i'm staunchly defending prince necessarily our prince andrew or necessarily our woke harry, obviously. woke king or harry, obviously. and now william has let us and now william has even let us down hiring disgraced tyrant down by hiring disgraced tyrant jacinda ardern for some sort of climate nonsense job. well, she's out of a job. she needs some help. i know, but it's making it hard for me to defend the royal. so not the royal. so i'm not necessarily our new necessarily keen on our new royals also not keen on royals and i'm also not keen on the guardians. so i had you down royals and i'm also not keen on theasuardians. so i had you down royals and i'm also not keen on theasuaioftns. so i had you down royals and i'm also not keen on theasuaiof as. so i had you down royals and i'm also not keen on theasuaiof a monarchist.you down royals and i'm also not keen on theasuaiof a monarchist. )u down royals and i'm also not keen on theasuaiof a monarchist. well,vn as a bit of a monarchist. well, i as a bit of a monarchist. well, r sorr— as a bit of a monarchist. well, r son or— as a bit of a monarchist. well, r son or for— as a bit of a monarchist. well, i sort of for the— as a bit of a monarchist. well, i sort of for the institution, but making bad but they keep making bad decisions. i decisions. so obviously i was a fan our queen as most fan of our great queen as most people were, and i'm a fan of

the institution. i want proper the institution. i want a proper monarchy, not what's term monarchy, not what's the term i've forgotten the term meaning we a constitutional one. we have a constitutional one. what's like what's the other one that's like an monarchy. that's an absolute monarchy. that's what but then it depends what i want. but then it depends on uno— what i want. but then it depends on nno you— what i want. but then it depends on nno you-on— what i want. but then it depends on who you-on who- what i want. but then it depends on who you-on who you- but then it depends on who you on who you get. on who you get, on who you get. year.— on who you get, on who you get. yenn. r— on who you get, on who you get. yenn. r-rr— on who you get, on who you get. yenn. r-rrro— on who you get, on who you get. yenn. r-rrro ne— on who you get, on who you get. yeah, i-it to be ruled- on who you get, on who you get. yeah, i-it to be ruled by- yeah, i want it to be ruled by a sort of just absolute king who's harsh want a kind harsh but fair. you want a kind of harsh but fair. you want a kind or—wnor— harsh but fair. you want a kind or—wnor you- harsh but fair. you want a kind of_what you want? harsh but fair. you want a kind- of_what you want? you of maybe me what you want? you nonr— of maybe me what you want? you went a— of maybe me what you want? you went a despot.— of maybe me what you want? you want a despot, don't— of maybe me what you want? you want a despot, don't you?- of maybe me what you want? you want a despot, don't you? - want a despot, don't you? really? you be ruled by really? you want to be ruled by unor— really? you want to be ruled by what_ benevolent- what they call a benevolent ryronre — what they call a benevolent tyrant? yeah.— what they call a benevolent tyrant? yeah. as- what they call a benevolent tyrant? “cr?" ' g what they call a benevolent tyrant? v/rtat" g what they call a benevolent tyrant? yv/rtirty" atrg : tyrant? yeah. as long as he does the stuff i agree with. it's interesting he. yeah, it interesting you say he. yeah, it would-interesting.- would be very interesting. it would— would be very interesting. it would be— would be very interesting. it would be very.— would be very interesting. it would be very. there have would be very interesting. it woultsomeery. there have would be very interesting. it woultsome dodgy there have would be very interesting. it woultsome dodgy therrthroughout been some dodgy kings throughout history-— been some dodgy kings throughout neon—sereni- history. so, you know be careful unor— history. so, you know be careful wnor you— history. so, you know be careful wnur you wrsn— history. so, you know be careful what you wish for. _ history. so, you know be careful what you wish for. nick dixon. anyway— what you wish for. nick dixon. anyway un— what you wish for. nick dixon. anyway uh, finally, a bit of nonsense now from the daily ston— nonsense now from the daily stun—wes- nonsense now from the daily. star,_was serious. star, because that was serious. rnor— star, because that was serious. run—serous.- star, because that was serious. that-serious. yeah.| that was really serious. yeah. wnor-s— that was really serious. yeah. what's-about?- that was really serious. yeah. what's about? big what's this one about? big orerure— what's this one about? big- picture—boffins picture of a brain? yes. boffins soyrne—one- saying you don't need one nonrns. — saying you don't need one boffins. -don't- saying you don't need one boffins. r:ri:r" e : saying you don't need one- boffins. -don't need a brain boffins. you don't need a brain after they've got after all. and they've got a little raab there little dominic raab there saying, never doubted it. saying, i've never doubted it. and they to and that's unfair. they seem to have of a yeah, they've have a bit of a yeah, they've got something for all, got something in for all, nothing with story. nothing to do with the story. and that's really mean. and what trey-re— and that's really mean. and what they're dimwit they're saying is that dimwit sea you sea anemones however you pronounce a sea anemones however you pronounce a weird word pronounce it it's a weird word anemones. andrew pronounce it it's a weird word anem(have andrew pronounce it it's a weird word anem(have no andrew pronounce it it's a weird word anem(have no brain andrew pronounce it it's a weird word anem(have no brain but andrew pronounce it it's a weird word anem(have no brain but canirew which have no brain but can still learn and adapt according

to boffins who have to boffins who do have big brains. just learn brains. so they just learn anyway. sense anyway. and this makes sense to me for example, with me because for example, with humans enteric humans we have the enteric brain, sometimes called humans we have the enteric brain, gut. sometimes called humans we have the enteric brain, gut. scaietimes called humans we have the enteric brain, gut. sca sorties called humans we have the enteric brain, gut. sca sort of called in the gut. it's a sort of separate system and always separate system and i've always thought more thought that's much more we're going to learn in future. that's actually more complex than going to learn in future. that's actlcerebral more complex than going to learn in future. that's actlcerebral brain.'e complex than going to learn in future. that's actlcerebral brain. i complex than going to learn in future. that's actlcerebral brain. i think. ex than going to learn in future. that's actlcerebral brain. i think. andlan the cerebral brain. i think. and that's talk gut that's when we talk about gut instinct. there is science behind all these behind that. it's got all these nerve. it's very complicated. think talking your nerve. it's very complicated. think thank talking your nerve. it's very complicated. think thank you.ng your nerve. it's very complicated. think thank you. so your nerve. it's very complicated. think thank you. so they your nerve. it's very complicated. think thank you. so they don't gut. thank you. so they don't necessarily even so, gut. thank you. so they don't necessrwe're even so, gut. thank you. so they don't necessrwe're learning even so, gut. thank you. so they don't necessrwe're learning from so, maybe we're learning from completely parts our completely other parts of our bodies learn bodies that they can learn without that's without a brain. andrew that's that's takeaway. you know, that's the takeaway. you know, this that's the takeaway. you know, we ooesn-r— that's the takeaway. you know, we ooesn-r r— that's the takeaway. you know, this doesn't i mean,— that's the takeaway. you know, this doesn't i mean, the- you know, this doesn't i mean, the star ore-rnrs— this doesn't i mean, the star. are-this-because are spinning this like because sea anemones don't have a brain. we sea anemones don't have a brain. we eon-r— sea anemones don't have a brain. we eon-r need— sea anemones don't have a brain. we eon-r neeo o— sea anemones don't have a brain. we don't need a brain either. i rnor-s— we don't need a brain either. i mean, that's strikes me as none. — mean, that's strikes me as. bizarre. _serious bizarre. and that's the serious newseornrn-e i news that they're coming. i rnrnn— news that they're coming. i think—they're. news that they're coming. i. think—they're going think that's what they're going that-s— think that's what they're goingl mars—wen that's what they're doing. well but— - that's what they're doing. well but— nuke but it is interesting. and like you-re— but it is interesting. and like you're saying that we're talking because this is all they really you're saying that we're talking becalise this is all they really you're saying that we're talking becalis like; is all they really you're saying that we're talking becalis like as all they really you're saying that we're talking becalis like a nervousy really you're saying that we're talking becalis like a nervous system. have is like a nervous system. so instinct can be so the idea that instinct can be kind—weird- so the idea that instinct can be- kind_weird somewhat, kind of remember weird somewhat, which— kind of remember weird somewhat, which is— kind of remember weird somewhat, which is that-s— kind of remember weird somewhat, which is that's what_ kind of remember weird somewhat, which is that's what it's suggeshhg— which is that's what it's suggeshhg h- which is that's what it's suggesting is i it's suggesting is i know it's interesting.— suggesting is i know it's. interesting-don't suggesting is i know it's- interesting.-don't need interesting. maybe we don't need it. interesting. maybe we don't need h—say— interesting. maybe we don't need h—say that- interesting. maybe we don't need h—say that thel it. you know, they say that the mem— it. you know, they say that the emeehrrlee— it. you know, they say that the smarter. are, the - it. you know, they say that the smarter are, the prone smarter you are, the more prone heu— smarter you are, the more prone you he— smarter you are, the more prone you h— smarter you are, the more prone you are to depression and, you knew,— you are to depression and, you hhhh—hhe- you are to depression and, you know,_the futilityi know, dwelling on the futility of know, dwelling on the futility eh-se— know, dwelling on the futility

of-so actually- of existence. so actually i heme— of existence. so actually i. would—cname would i'd rather be a cname hhh-e— would i'd rather be a cname hhh-e why— would i'd rather be a cname hhh-e why hm— would i'd rather be a cname that's why i'm so- would i'd rather be a cname that's why i'm so happy. there we 90-— that's why i'm so happy. there we 90- oh— that's why i'm so happy. there we go. oh yew— that's why i'm so happy. there we go. did you want to that we go. did you want to say that is we go. did you want to say that he-geh— we go. did you want to say that he-geh hhe— we go. did you want to say that he-geh the her- we go. did you want to say that is-got time for in- is all we've got time for in the— is all we've got time for in this—join- is all we've got time for in hhhe—y-eh wel is all we've got time for in. this—join us after this part, but do join us after the— this part, but do join us after the-when— this part, but do join us after the _when we're- this part, but do join us afteri the _when we're-to the break when we're going to be hhhhe— the break when we're going to be talking—should- the break when we're going to be talking—should leti talking about why we should let drag— talking about why we should let ehe ahe— talking about why we should let ehg ehe hhe— talking about why we should let drag acts into the— talking about why we should let drag acts into the classroom or hot.— drag acts into the classroom or not. why— drag acts into the classroom or new. why women— drag acts into the classroom or not. why women less not. why women get paid less w...— not. why women get paid less then-het- — not. why women get paid less than-not. and- not. why women get paid less than-not. and the- not. why women get paid less than not. and the vote to than men or not. and the vote to eheheh— than men or not. and the vote to abolish ofsted_ than men or not. and the vote to abolish ofsted in— than men or not. and the vote to abolish ofsted in in— than men or not. and the vote to abolish ofsted in in schools . abolish ofsted in in schools. see— abolish ofsted in in schools. see yew— abolish ofsted in in schools. see you h— abolish ofsted in in schools. see you in just— abolish ofsted in in schools. see you in just a— abolish ofsted in in schools. see you in just a couple of minutes— see you in just a couple of minutes .—

welcome back to headliners with wherew— welcome back to headliners with me, andrew doyle.— welcome back to headliners with me, andrew doyle. we're looking through— me, andrew doyle. we're looking through thursday's— me, andrew doyle. we're looking through thursday's newspapers. i'm through thursday's newspapers. h-h iehee— through thursday's newspapers. h-h joined hy— through thursday's newspapers. i'm joined by josh howie and nick— i'm joined by josh howie and nick when.— i'm joined by josh howie and nick dixon. and— i'm joined by josh howie and nick dixon. and we're going to kick— nick dixon. and we're going to heh eh— nick dixon. and we're going to heh eh thie— nick dixon. and we're going to kick off this section the kick off this section with the hhee. — kick off this section with the hhee. yeeh — kick off this section with the times. josh and— kick off this section with the times. josh and hopefully some heed— times. josh and hopefully some heed-equality- times. josh and hopefully some oeee-eewhhy. - times. josh and hopefully some good equality . �*vyhz; good news for equality. we hheeh — good news for equality. we indeed labour— good news for equality. we indeed labour welcomes uk equality act review . now this is equality act review. now this is kim rye badenoch. she said yesterday that it was going to be referred to the hrc to make sure that what does sex actually

mean when it comes to dealing with the protection of women and people who have the gender recognition certificate. and there's a bit of ig t�* . with" wiwit”. �*" i and there's a bit of confusion there. — there's a bit of confusion there. so— there's a bit of confusion there. so now- there's a bit of confusion there. git t; there's a bit of confusion- there. so now they're going to 90, there. so now they're going to go, it's biological sex where it needs to be. so what's interesting _ needs to be. so what's interesting about- : so what's interesting about that is a lot of interesting about that is a lot eh-ehhhe— interesting about that is a lot of-online are- interesting about that is a lot of online are saying, of activists online are saying, a..— of activists online are saying, eh week,— of activists online are saying, oh, look, they're— of activists online are saying, oh, look, they're redefining the howewhy—h- equality act. but surely it ewweye— equality act. but surely it always biological always meant biological sex whi— always meant biological sex whhw—eweho- always meant biological sex until—along and. always meant biological sex- until_along and went, until they came along and went, no woman could— until they came along and went, no woman could anything, no woman could be anything, heeheehy— no woman could be anything, basically. right.— no woman could be anything, basically. right. exactly. so they-we— they're just they're just clarifying— they're just they're just- clarifying _existing . clarifying what the existing. exeehy. — clarifying what the existing. may we— clarifying what the existing. exactly. just to _ clarifying what the existing. exactly. just to push back against— exactly. just to push back against that— exactly. just to push back against that labour who put out against that labour who put out a wee— against that labour who put out a wet het— against that labour who put out a tweet last week— against that labour who put out a tweet last week on trans whhhhhy— a tweet last week on trans visibility day— a tweet last week on trans visibility day day 356 of the yew— visibility day day 356 of the year ew— visibility day day 356 of the year or we— visibility day day 356 of the year or two or— visibility day day 356 of the year or two or whatever they put out year or two or whatever they put eh e— year or two or whatever they put eh a thing— year or two or whatever they put out a thing which— year or two or whatever they put out a thing which and one of the things— out a thing which and one of the hhhee hhh— out a thing which and one of the things that they— out a thing which and one of the things that they said was that i...— things that they said was that a... wee— things that they said was that they going— things that they said was that they were going to bring in a hen— they were going to bring in a hen h— they were going to bring in a hen if they— they were going to bring in a hen if they 9..— they were going to bring in a ban if they get in a ban of full conversion practise. yeah which is conversion practise. yeah which he yew— conversion practise. yeah which he very wehyho— conversion practise. yeah which is very worrying because that wowe— is very worrying because that would affirmation would mean that affirmation wowe— would mean that affirmation wewwe he— would mean that affirmation would be banned, i.e. someone gees— would be banned, i.e. someone goes h— would be banned, i.e. someone goes in ahe— would be banned, i.e. someone oeee h and says,— would be banned, i.e. someone goes in and says, i'm a boy or hm— goes in and says, i'm a boy or m e— goes in and says, i'm a boy or m e oh,— goes in and says, i'm a boy or w-h e ohht ahe— goes in and says, i'm a boy or i'm a girl, and they go, yeah, you— i'm a girl, and they go, yeah, you he— i'm a girl, and they go, yeah, you ahe— i'm a girl, and they go, yeah, you are. and if— i'm a girl, and they go, yeah, you are. and if you if you say, wal— you are. and if you if you say, went-hw— you are. and if you if you say, well,-talk about- you are. and if you if you say, well, talk about some well, let's talk about some ether—yew- well, let's talk about somei other—you could other issues, then you could argue— other issues, then you could argue hwy—

other issues, then you could argue why i..— other issues, then you could argue ably the would argue ably the case would go. so argue ably the case would go. se-hs— argue ably the case would go. so-is labour's- argue ably the case would go. so-is labour's a- argue ably the case would go. so-is labour's a bit. so the point is labour's a bit all over it, even though they seem to be understanding that, as before, 50% of the as i've said before, 50% of the population are women. so they sort of go, well, maybe- t“ ”wit t“ so they sort of go, well, maybe we ehewwe —hhi should start focusing a bit more. mean, starmer to more. i mean, starmer said to i...— more. i mean, starmer said to the—weekl more. i mean, starmer said to. the—week hhh the sunday times this week that a...— the sunday times this week that there—remna- the sunday times this week that there—rolling back. the sunday times this week that thewomen's rolling back the sunday times this week that thewomen's rights rolling back the sunday times this week that thewomen's rights if lling back the sunday times this week that thewomen's rights if they back the sunday times this week that thewomen's rights if they were on women's rights if they were in on women's rights if they were h—eeh- on women's rights if they were h—eeh hhel in government. he said the heme- in government. he said the weeeeh—hel in government. he said thei lesson—is that lesson from scotland is that you eehh— lesson from scotland is that you eehh-hwhhe— lesson from scotland is that you can't-public with- can't take the public with you on can't take the public with you ehliewhey— can't take the public with you on journey reform if you on a journey of reform if you eehh— on a journey of reform if you eehh-hhe— on a journey of reform if you can't-the public- can't take the public on a journey— can't take the public on a journey ef— can't take the public on a journey of reform, you're journey of reform, then you're wehehwy— journey of reform, then you're wehehwy het— journey of reform, then you're probably not on— journey of reform, then you're probably not on the right iewmey— probably not on the right iewhey-hhe- probably not on the right journey. the case, nick, journey. is it the case, nick, hhh— journey. is it the case, nick, that-he— journey. is it the case, nick, that-is kind- journey. is it the case, nick, that-is kind of- journey. is it the case, nick, that is kind of seeing that starmer is kind of seeing what— that starmer is kind of seeing whh happened— that starmer is kind of seeing what happened to nicola sturgeon that starmer is kind of seeing what hap of led to nicola sturgeon that starmer is kind of seeing what hap of workediicola sturgeon that starmer is kind of seeing what hap of worked it ola sturgeon that starmer is kind of seeing what hap of worked it out sturgeon that starmer is kind of seeing what hap of worked it out thatjeon and kind of worked it out that ehwewwy— and kind of worked it out that ehwehy h— and kind of worked it out that actually at-point- and kind of worked it out that actually at point have and kind of worked it out that ac'clarifyat point have and kind of worked it out that ac'clarify what point have and kind of worked it out that ac'clarify what sex nt have and kind of worked it out that ac'clarify what sex means have and kind of worked it out that ac'clarify what sex means and to clarify what sex means and het— to clarify what sex means and hot—hem- to clarify what sex means and- not—don't-which not pretend you don't know which is not pretend you don't know which he whh— not pretend you don't know which he whh hee— not pretend you don't know which is what he's done.— not pretend you don't know which is what he's done. in previous hhewhewe— is what he's done. in previous hhewhewe. — is what he's done. in previous hhewhewe. he— is what he's done. in previous interviews. he says- is what he's done. in previous interviews. he says that this week, says week, but every week he says something think something different. you think he's on it now.7 he's rolling back on it now.7 he's he's rolling back on it now? he's starmer's he's rolling back on it now? he's to starmer's he's rolling back on it now? he's to try starmer's he's rolling back on it now? he's to try and starmer's he's rolling back on it now? he's to try and say rmer's he's rolling back on it now? he's to try and say nothing thing is to try and say nothing until he wins the election. this is big policy. and here you is his big policy. and here you look clarification look what he said. clarification is good i mean, this is a good thing. i mean, is this a statement, the most a bold statement, the most ridiculous statement? how could it will look closely it be true? we will look closely at what's brought forward. he's saying absolutely so saying absolutely nothing. so i don't sort this is don't trust him to sort this is it because the equality and

human commission human rights commission have come they've said come in and they've now said actually important actually, it's really important that this. it could that we clarify this. it could be stein do be hopefully stein will do the hehh— be hopefully stein will do the hohh hhhho— be hopefully stein will do the hohh hhhho-h- be hopefully stein will do the right thing-i just- be hopefully stein will do the right thing c13“ . right thing in it. i just don't know.— right thing in it. i just don't know, because he to know, because he's he seems to say something like 99.9% of women don't penises. you're women don't have penises. you're like, the little like, what about the last little percentage of percentage there? so none of them almost them have penises. he's almost there, though, isn't he. yeah. he's only 0.01. the thing- d . yeah. he's only 0.01. the thing is het— that 0.1% is a massive difference— that 0.1% is a massive difference because you difference because that's, you knew—yew - difference because that's, you know _you know. difference because that's, youi know _you know in know as you said, you know in hee—h-e-el free speech nation it's not a oehehe— free speech nation it's not a gotcha question _ free speech nation it's not a gotcha question either. /wiw. free speech nation it's not a gotcha question either. /witw. eh?" gotcha question either. you can whe— gotcha question either. you can answer the question honestly or you he does. now, you can't. and he does. now, a few months it you can't. and he does. now, a few months-it was- you can't. and he does. now, a few months-it was 99.- you can't. and he does. now, a few months-it was 99. l you can't. and he does. now, a. few months-it was 99. now few months ago, it was 99. now it's few months ago, it was 99. now he gene— few months ago, it was 99. now he gone up— few months ago, it was 99. now he gone up w— few months ago, it was 99. now it's gone up to 99.9. _ few months ago, it was 99. now it's gone up to 99.9. it doesn't matter if every week he progresses one more 99.9999. it doesn't matter . no. 100% of doesn't matter. no. 100% of women don't have willies. yes, that's where he needs to- t�* chi?" . .. yes, that's where he needs to get to eeyhho. — that's where he needs to get to eeyhho. ahe— that's where he needs to get to saying. and that— that's where he needs to get to saying. and that is- that's where he needs to get to saying. and that is a- that's where he needs to get to saying. and that is a massive shift to get to that point. and he's not there yet, basically, except the penis starmer. that's what we're saying. and, you— that's what we're saying. and, you knew. — that's what we're saying. and, you knew. he— that's what we're saying. and, you know, he could— that's what we're saying. and, you know, he could say, are we going to protect women's rights if he can't accurately define what means what a woman is? it means hehhhho. — what a woman is? it means nothing. but this is going to me a the problem stems from a lot of the problem stems from the itself. all the equality act itself. all sort of sunak said.

sort of wokeness, sunak said. here— sort of wokeness, sunak said. here he— sort of wokeness, sunak said. here it's allowed— sort of wokeness, sunak said. here it's allowed every kind of woke— woke nonsense to permeate public whe— life. every time you hear eerherhhho— life. every time you hear something really stupid, it seems-back- something really stupid, it seems back the something really stupid, it- seems-backlthe equality seems to go back to the equality her. — seems to go back to the equality her. rhe— seems to go back to the equality her. hhe ehhy— seems to go back to the equality act. the only good— seems to go back to the equality act. the only good thing about it act. the only good thing about h—yew- act. the only good thing about hr—yew een- act. the only good thing about h—yew wee| it is occasionally you can use it is occasionally you can use hr-hehhere— it is occasionally you can use h-hehhere hy- it is occasionally you can use it-leftists by their. it to hoist leftists by their own petard where you say, well, here— own petard where you say, well, rhh-e—hhi that's against the equality, but you heed— that's against the equality, but you need re— that's against the equality, but you need he he— that's against the equality, but you need to be able to detect peepwe. — you need to be able to detect people. absolutely- you need to be able to detect people. . jig; d people. absolutely disagree. of course you disagree. you're a big lefty. course you disagree. you're a big wehylrhe— course you disagree. you're a big lefty.-the thing- course you disagree. you're a big lefty.-the thing is.- big lefty. but the thing is. war,— big lefty. but the thing is. went—e- big lefty. but the thing is. wehht—eieri big lefty. but the thing is.- well,_a.of this. well, you've said a lot of this. i well, you've said a lot of this. hirer— well, you've said a lot of this. hirer-dent— well, you've said a lot of this. i just don't believe in i just say i don't believe in equehhy— i just say i don't believe in equewhy. rew— i just say i don't believe in equality. you think whole equality. you think the whole rhhho. — equality. you think the whole rhhho. okay.— equality. you think the whole thing. okay.-don'tl thing. okay. but you don't believe i don't believe in equality? i don't believe in equality? i don't believe equality believe in the equality act necessarily, as necessarily, because it's as like, it's of like, for example, it's sort of reduced christianity, would like, for example, it's sort of reduce to zhristianity, would like, for example, it's sort of reduce to a ristianity, would like, for example, it's sort of reduceto a sort nity, would like, for example, it's sort of reduceto a sort ofy, would like, for example, it's sort of reduceto a sort of just would like, for example, it's sort of reduceto a sort of just another.d argue, to a sort of just another religion along any like religion along with any like scientology. it doesn't. no good eeerhelhewe— scientology. it doesn't. no good seems.have_it,- seems to have come from it, ehwehhy— seems to have come from it, actually—agree. seems to have come from it,. actually._agree with actually. no, i don't agree with equehhry— actually. no, i don't agree with equewhry-hy— actually. no, i don't agree with equrwhy-hy rhe- actually. no, i don't agree with equality by the no, equality either. by the way. no, heeewee— equality either. by the way. no, heeewee he— equality either. by the way. no, heeewee he a— equality either. by the way. no, because it's a leftist collectivist. - because it's a leftist collectivist. don't collectivist. no. you don't believe that there be believe that there should be protection for protected characteristics protection for protected charactei i ;tics protection for protected characteii dos protection for protected characteii do think being woman, woman? i do think being a woman, being of whatever, being a religious of whatever, for someone for instance, if someone was fired that should fired for being gay, that should be presumably. yeah, be illegal, presumably. yeah, that illegal. but that should be illegal. but here— that should be illegal. but that's—well. that should be illegal. but. that's—well why that's the equality. well why whee— that's the equality. well why he hr— that's the equality. well why does it seem— that's the equality. well why does it seem to— that's the equality. well why does it seem to cause much does it seem to cause so much rrewhhe— does it seem to cause so much trouble—because. trouble then? well, because people what it means people don't know what it means anymore. thing. anymore. one little thing. everything defined everything else was defined being know, being being gay, you know, being jewish, being christian,

whatever problem whatever it is. but the problem was that then some activists came going was that then some activists ca totally going was that then some activists ca totally throw going was that then some activists ca totally throw women |oing to totally throw what women means right. means out of the window. right. well, they do means out of the window. right. well,-they do need- means out of the window. right. well,-they do need to- well, they they do need to three— well, they they do need to three rhe — well, they they do need to protect the spaces for women. i ther— protect the spaces for women. i the weer— protect the spaces for women. i the wehr re— protect the spaces for women. i we wrhr re ery— protect the spaces for women. i just want to say lastly this. reehhe— just want to say lastly this. reehhe hhhe — just want to say lastly this. people like joe— just want to say lastly this. people like joe omicron on hwhher— people like joe omicron on twitter saying— people like joe omicron on twitter saying they're twitter saying that they're rryhho — twitter saying that they're rryhho _e- twitter saying that they're - trying _ a vulnerable trying to victimise a vulnerable rhhherhryt— trying to victimise a vulnerable rhhhhehhhhee— trying to victimise a vulnerable min(failings, government own failings, a government that eeerhe—rhhhhl seems bizarre to me. i think we can ignore pretty much can safely ignore pretty much everything that jolyon maugham can safely ignore pretty much everything say. jolyon maugham can safely ignore pretty much everything say. anyway,’iaugham can safely ignore pretty much everything say. anyway, we'ream has got to say. anyway, we're moving telegraph. moving on now to the telegraph. what are the teachers union said about what's about drag acts? what's this about? josh. oh about? this one's for josh. oh invite into schools invite drag queens into schools , union. so this is , say teachers union. so this is the new and they've just put out a thing and one of their speakers, they've been meeting this week having their big conference and basically blamed rishi for the murder of rishi sunak for the murder of briahna grey, or at least implied it really. briahna grey, or at least implied it really . and then implied it really. and then immediately sort of was pulled aside and went, oh, no, i didn't mean that whatever, even mean that or whatever, even though course, that's what though of course, that's what this of pushes us this rhetoric sort of pushes us and exactly that. what and exactly that. that's what she at the time. she's she meant at the time. she's going he's supporting rishi sunak the sunak is supporting the far right on drag queen right attacks on drag queen story and murder of story time and the murder of buford. imean, story time and the murder of buford. i mean, an absolutely

rhehewhewe— : i mean, an absolutely ridiculous statement. that's : i mean, an absolutely riditthing. statement. that's : i mean, an absolutely riditthing is:atement. that's : i mean, an absolutely riditthing is that's nt. that's : i mean, an absolutely riditthing is that's all that's : i mean, an absolutely riditthing is that's all they've t's the thing is that's all they've got the thing is that's all they've oer he— the thing is that's all they've oer he rheee— the thing is that's all they've got is these activists, is they ther— got is these activists, is they twer-rheee— got is these activists, is they just these outlandish just make these outlandish ehehrhe— just make these outlandish- ehehrhe—eheho claims and people just go along whrh— claims and people just go along whrh-reeh— claims and people just go along with-feel good. - claims and people just go along with-feel good. so- claims and people just go along with feel good. with it to feel good. so i'm very— with it to feel good. so i'm very confused— with it to feel good. so i'm very confused about this because the union, we the national education union, we should say, which is the largest teaching union the country, teaching union in the country, they're should be they're saying we should be inviting drag queens into schools. but the reason they're saying would saying is because it would help to heteronormative to challenge the heteronormative culture what of drag queens education. what of drag queens got to do with heteronormativity? this is heteronormativity? well, this is it. trying it. what exactly are they trying to kids ? yeah, but in to teach kids? yeah, but in eeehrheh— to teach kids? yeah, but in addition, does— to teach kids? yeah, but in addition, does the- addition, does the heteronormative culture really heteronorm ative culture really eerhhhhe— heteronormative culture really dominate education? it seems to me dominate education? it seems to he he— dominate education? it seems to he he erre— dominate education? it seems to me the exact opposite. it seems to me the exact opposite. it seems re-weheehee- me the exact opposite. it seems to nonsense dominates to be woke. nonsense dominates eewehheh— education these days. i suppose if education these days. i suppose hieey— education these days. i suppose hrieey rhh— education these days. i suppose hrieey rhh eh— if we say that all heteronormative, all heteronormativity is, is that peehhe— heteronormativity is, is that people—peoplei heteronormativity is, is that. heehhe—heehhe people assume that people are errehohr— people assume that people are straight unless— people assume that people are straight unless they hear erherwhee— straight unless they hear otherwise lies, then i suppose rhh— otherwise lies, then i suppose her he— otherwise lies, then i suppose her he he— otherwise lies, then i suppose that is the case— otherwise lies, then i suppose that is the case pretty much everywhere— that is the case pretty much everywhere because most people are everywhere because most people errehehr. — everywhere because most people errehehr. h— everywhere because most people are straight. i don't— everywhere because most people are straight. chi?" . everywhere because most people are straight. chit“ . are straight. i don't see why drag queens get involved, why they're dragged in, if they're getting dragged in, if you don't mind the because. you don't mind the pun. because. because is gender because all that is, is gender nonconformity terms of dress nonconformity in terms of dress and performance. right. well yeah, no one yeah, but it's an issue no one has with dragons, but has a problem with dragons, but it's when it's applied to

it's only when it's applied to children. no one understands why rhey— children. no one understands why hey-re— children. no one understands why they-to.performing- they have to be performing for ehhhereh—hei children. but but this claim is very— children. but but this claim is very hhzerre— children. but but this claim is very bizarre in— children. but but this claim is very bizarre in the times from eerheehelrhe— very bizarre in the times from someone the unions that says someone in the unions that says her—rhe- that sunak is supporting the far rhohr— that sunak is supporting the far rhghr—eweehe. l right attacks on drag queens. shery— right attacks on drag queens. shew-hee- right attacks on drag queens. story he's saying right attacks on drag queens.- story-he's saying hate story time. and he's saying hate ahe— story time. and he's saying hate end-he— story time. and he's saying hate ehe-he rhe— story time. and he's saying hate and-is fine and- story time. and he's saying hate and-is fine and we- story time. and he's saying hate and is fine and we won't and abuse is fine and we won't erehe—hew- stand for this. so it's now far rhohr. — stand for this. so it's now far rhohr. wer— stand for this. so it's now far rhohr. her re— stand for this. so it's now far right. not to have drag queen performances.— right. not to have drag queen performances. virtually isn't rhh— performances. virtually isn't her-er— performances. virtually isn't that-of absurd?- performances. virtually isn't that of absurd? yeah. but that kind of absurd? yeah. but the that kind of absurd? yeah. but he prehherh— that kind of absurd? yeah. but the problem is— that kind of absurd? yeah. but the problem is in— that kind of absurd? yeah. but the problem is in drag queens heh-r. — isn't. the problem is sexual ized by queens ized performances by drag queens in children. and that in front of children. and that is i think we is a distinction i think we should make. absolutely but what is challenge should make. absolutely but what is-challenge specifically- should make. absolutely but what is-challenge specifically ?- is the challenge specifically? hhey-re— is the challenge specifically? hhey-re eryhho— is the challenge specifically? they're saying to they're saying they want to when— they're saying they want to wheeh-whew— they're saying they want to widen-view .- they're saying they want to widen-view . so - they're saying they want to widen view . so how they're saying they want to widen-view . so how how widen the view. so how does how whee— widen the view. so how does how he a— widen the view. so how does how he a who— widen the view. so how does how does a drag queen— widen the view. so how does how does a drag queen widen your ehhhe-e— does a drag queen widen your ehhhe-e wew— does a drag queen widen your child's view on— does a drag queen widen your child's view on the world like ? child's view on the world like? so child's view on the world like? so we— child's view on the world like? so we ehewhe— child's view on the world like? so we should also— child's view on the world like? so we should also invite nappy rerhehhere— so we should also invite nappy fetishists in— so we should also invite nappy fetishists in or— so we should also invite nappy fetishists in or something. i'm not fetishists in or something. i'm her eryhhg— fetishists in or something. i'm not saying they're the same, but the not saying they're the same, but he hehhr— not saying they're the same, but he hehhr he— not saying they're the same, but he hehhr he. yew— not saying they're the same, but the point is, you know, show ing rherh— the point is, you know, show ing rherh ehewhhg— the point is, you know, show ing them, showing children that here— them, showing children that there-different- them, showing children that there different types of there are different types of rehhhhee. — there are different types of families. _that- there are different types of families. ”wit families. sure. that there are gay families and lesbian families and single families or whatever anyway. don't they see that whatever anyway. don't they see her eh— whatever anyway. don't they see her on hw— whatever anyway. don't they see her on w rhe— whatever anyway. don't they see that on tv and. well,— at) don't they see that on tv and. well, that's wher— that on tv and. well, that's whh rh— that on tv and. well, that's what i'm saying.— that on tv and. well, that's what i'm saying. there what i'm saying. but there eryhho— what i'm saying. but there eryhho-we— what i'm saying. but there eryhho-we-rei what i'm saying. but there saying, we to be saying, oh, we need to be bringing— saying, oh, we need to be. bringing—queens saying, oh, we need to be- bringing_queens in to bringing these drag queens in to when— bringing these drag queens in to when-wew.— bringing these drag queens into widen-view. it's— bringing these drag queens into widen-view. it's a- bringing these drag queens in to widen view. it's a weird widen their view. it's a weird ewhwhh—

widen their view. it's a weird cultural obsession at the herhehr — cultural obsession at the moment. thing. moment. this drag queen thing. it moment. this drag queen thing. h-hhzerre.— moment. this drag queen thing. it-bizarre. anyway,- it really is bizarre. anyway, were-re— it really is bizarre. anyway, we're-to move- it really is bizarre. anyway,- we're-to move _this we're going to move on to this .he— we're going to move on to this .he eh— we're going to move on to this one.-is an equality- we're going to move on to this one. is an equality story. one. this is an equality story. hoehh—hehe- one. this is an equality story.- hoehh—hehe-rheh again women still paid less than . heh— again women still paid less than . nick-ido— again women still paid less than men . nick.-do you- again women still paid less than men . \w rte”. szit again women still paid less than men . \w men. nick. ah. do you have any thoughts this? this thoughts on this? well, this this comes the guardian. so this comes from the guardian. so i'll say that straight i'll just say that straight away. paid away. women are still paid less than at four out of five than men. at four out of five employers in britain and it claims that in almost of claims that in almost half of companies and public bodies, male are at least male employees are paid at least 10% more than their female counterparts. now, the question is, jobs? and is, is it for the same jobs? and that's they kind that's the bit they kind of leave in some it leave out and in some cases it may even similar jobs. may even be for similar jobs. but then we've got the question of salary negotiation. so it's kind many times kind of been shown many times that a of that this pay gap is a bit of a myth, but the guardian clings to it that it's they it and they think that it's they first it's real. they first they think it's real. they imply that are getting imply that men are just getting paid same job, paid more for the same job, which not true. and then they which is not true. and then they assume it's good thing. and assume it's a good thing. and they at the current rate of they say at the current rate of progress, it take than progress, it will take more than 20 this gap. 20 years to close this gap. what i assume that this i mean is they assume that this is something that we desperately need to doing. take need to be doing. now, my take is actually it well is that actually it may well go the other because are the other way because women are discovering like discovering as people like louise perry written about discovering as people like louicallingi written about discovering as people like louicalling herself/ritten about

discovering as people like louicalling herself atten about discovering as people like louicalling herself a so—called and calling herself a so—called reactionary feminist, that actually women don't necessarily want corporate want to compete in the corporate world. actually world. they may actually go back to to families. so to wanting to raise families. so i don't think going to go i don't think it's going to go like guardian think. well, like the guardian think. well, that's question. that's an interesting question. is because all the in all that's an interesting question. is countries all the in all that's an interesting question. is countries where the in all that's an interesting question. is countries where they'vell the countries where they've implemented— the countries where they've l implemented _try the countries where they've - implemented _try and implemented measures to try and rereeee— implemented measures to try and reereee-herhy— implemented measures to try and redress-parity-inl redress gender parity such as in seehehhewhet— redress gender parity such as in scandinavia, women tend to eheee— scandinavia, women tend to. eheeeereee—h choose more traditional roles, rhohre— right? so when people have more freedom.— right? so when people have more freedom,_more. freedom, they tend to be more eeoreohee— freedom, they tend to be more segregated gender. josh segregated by gender. josh is rhhe—rheeel segregated by gender. josh is. this—these kind this an issue because these kind of this an issue because these kind or ehhehee— this an issue because these kind of articles lead— this an issue because these kind of articles lead to— this an issue because these kind of articles lead to the kind of rhyrh— of articles lead to the kind of rhyrh rhh— of articles lead to the kind of myth that-and- of articles lead to the kind of. myth that-and-are of articles lead to the kind of- myth that-and-are paid myth that men and women are paid ehherehhy— myth that men and women are paid differently-same— differently for the same work whheh— differently for the same work which-illegal- differently for the same work. which-illegal.five which has been illegal for five eeeeeee— which has been illegal for five eeeeeee rhe— which has been illegal for five decades and doesn't but decades and doesn't happen. but wher— decades and doesn't happen. but whh rhey-re— decades and doesn't happen. but what they're talking about here is what they're talking about here he rhh— what they're talking about here is that because _ what they're talking about here is that because of— what they're talking about here is that because of the choices rhh— is that because of the choices rhh where— is that because of the choices that various people women that various people make, women are that various people make, women ere—ge— that various people make, women ere—oe reh- that various people make, women ere—go heh rhrhel are more likely to go part time ,-tke_ are more likely to go part time ,-tke-n.a.- are more likely to go part time ,-like-then you. are more likely to go part timei ,-like-then you get , things like that. then you get a gap— , things like that. then you get a gap h— , things like that. then you get a gap hh erweroe— , things like that. then you get a gap in average earnings. but here— a gap in average earnings. but hate her— a gap in average earnings. but that's not necessarily a sign of eheerhhe— that's not necessarily a sign of endemic sexism.— that's not necessarily a sign of endemic sexism. and it's what as wheh— endemic sexism. and it's what as wheh ewe— endemic sexism. and it's what as wheh ewe he— endemic sexism. and it's what as nick says, it's not— endemic sexism. and it's what as nick says, it's not at— endemic sexism. and it's what as nick says, it's not at all mentioned— nick says, it's not at all mentioned in- nick says, it's not at all mentioned in this article. and here— mentioned in this article. and here where— mentioned in this article. and that's what's so— mentioned in this article. and that's what's so frustrating wew— that's what's so frustrating wew w,— that's what's so frustrating wew it, he— that's what's so frustrating about it, is you're a newspaper, be about it, is you're a newspaper, he heheer— about it, is you're a newspaper, be honest about— about it, is you're a newspaper, be honest about this stuff. hrhhg— be honest about this stuff. hrhhe h— be honest about this stuff. bring in some— be honest about this stuff. bring in some actual facts and wwhwheh— bring in some actual facts and some variation to— bring in some actual facts and some variation to show why the rhhhoe— some variation to show why the here we— some variation to show why the things are _that- some variation to show why the things are that they things are the way that they h— things are the way that they are. i mean, it's— things are the way that they are. i mean, it's possible that in some corporations, you know, rhey— in some corporations, you know,

rhey-weheh- in some corporations, you know, they women because they don't hire women because rhere—eexherh i there is an ingrained sexism whrhhh— there is an ingrained sexism. within—company. within that particular company. i within that particular company. h ew— within that particular company. h eee— within that particular company. i can see that— within that particular company. i can see that that could be the eeee-ehewhe- i can see that that could be the case-should.dealtl case and that should be dealt whrh—wee- case and that should be dealt with—also sayingj with also. they're also saying her— with also. they're also saying that-companies,- with also. they're also saying that companies, women are that 3% of companies, women are paid— that 3% of companies, women are hehe-rheh— that 3% of companies, women are hehe-rheh rheh— that 3% of companies, women are paid _than men-so. paid more than men. yeah. so wew.— paid more than men. yeah. so war, rhw-e— paid more than men. yeah. so well, that's interesting. we've got well, that's interesting. we've oer—hw- well, that's interesting. we've got—that because| got to deal with that because women_seconds,i got to deal with that because. women _ seconds, they women in their 20 seconds, they wrwwhy— women in their 20 seconds, they wrwwhy ewh— women in their 20 seconds, they actually earn on— women in their 20 seconds, they actually earn on average more rhw— actually earn on average more hee hee— actually earn on average more rhw h— actually earn on average more than men in their— actually earn on average more than men in their 20s. yeah. so hhwe— than men in their 20s. yeah. so thee-here— than men in their 20s. yeah. so place-lots more- than men in their 20s. yeah. so place lots more women in place hires lots more women in her— place hires lots more women in rhehr hee— place hires lots more women in their 20s like— place hires lots more women in their 20s like hooters or wherever— their 20s like hooters or wherever .— their 20s like hooters or whatever . they're getting lot whatever. they're getting a lot yeah— whatever. they're getting a lot more. yeah thanks for that one, yeeh— more. yeah thanks for that one, yeeh okay.— more. yeah thanks for that one, josh okayr-going- more. yeah thanks for that one, josh okay, going stick josh okay, we're going to stick. now—here. guardians josh okay, we're going to stick. novta_here. guardians josh okay, we're going to stick novta story here. guardians josh okay, we're going to stick novta story about here. guardians josh okay, we're going to stick novta story about ofstedruardians got a story about ofsted inspections.— got a story about ofsted inspections. i- got a story about ofsted inspections. i remember ofsted hheheerhehe.— inspections. i remember ofsted inspections. nick— inspections. i remember ofsted inspections. nick as a teacher, rhey— inspections. nick as a teacher, rhey wee— inspections. nick as a teacher, rhey perry— inspections. nick as a teacher, they were pretty scary . “with?“ they were pretty scary. yeah, rhey— they were pretty scary. yeah, they w— they were pretty scary. yeah, they he. — they were pretty scary. yeah, they can be. and of course that was tragically led to the death of perry headlines. of ruth perry and the headlines. teachers for teachers union calls for abolition inspections abolition of ofsted inspections after ruth perry and after death of ruth perry and she committed suicide because she committed suicide because she so distraught about her she was so distraught about her school being downgraded to inadequate, which is the lowest rating . so it can be very rating. so it can be very brutal. and i understand that. and but in terms of what they're doing, though, is using that to try and reform it. and you know, and saying, oh, you and they're saying, oh, you know, need to it's

know, we need to we need it's leading to harm. it needs be leading to harm. it needs to be deau leading to harm. it needs to be dealt with immediately. but but but the question. but does it is the question. i've into it i i've been looking into it and i work with toby young on our weekly podcast, weekly sceptic podcast, so i know about this because weekly sceptic podcast, so i knov an about this because weekly sceptic podcast, so i knovan experttut this because weekly sceptic podcast, so i knovan expert onthis because weekly sceptic podcast, so i knov an expert on schools. use weekly sceptic podcast, so i knov an expert on schools. and he's an expert on schools. and which that? it's which podcast is that? it's called the weekly sceptics, one of growing podcasts of the fastest growing podcasts in the country. check it out, check not using this check it out. but not using this as an appetiser. no, but was as an appetiser. no, but it was just relevant. so now, so, so the that ofsted , it may the point is that ofsted, it may be but giving a kind of be okay, but giving a kind of overview of the school. but actually has no real actually it has no real correlation grades . so if correlation with grades. so if your outstanding or your school is outstanding or good , there's actual good, there's no actual correlation grades. correlation with better grades. that to iq that tends to be more tied to iq and certain factors that just suggest going to be suggest that kids going to be smart. doesn't do much, smart. so it doesn't do much, although of although it might be sort of nice it might be okay nice to have, it might be okay and want revise and they might want to revise the language make it. what the language to make it. what probably here that probably happened here is that revised to make it revised language to make it sound called sound less, you don't be called inadequate, ofsted inadequate, but actually ofsted doesn't in doesn't do that much anyway in terms grades. but terms of actual grades. but that's not helpful. - terms of actual grades. but that's not helpful. i- t g : but that's not helpful. i mean, we do that's not helpful. i mean, we he heed— that's not helpful. i mean, we do need-have— that's not helpful. i mean, we do need have some kind of do need to have some kind of rheerewe— do need to have some kind of rigorous—system. do need to have some kind ofi rigorous—system for rigorous assessment system for eeheehe— rigorous assessment system for schools._suicidal| schools. all experts in suicidal heewheh— schools. all experts in suicidal heewheh-yew— schools. all experts in suicidal ideation-you that- schools. all experts in suicidal ideation you that you ideation tell you that you ehewhrh-r— ideation tell you that you shouldn't say— ideation tell you that you shouldn't say that. one thing weed— shouldn't say that. one thing eweee rhw—

shouldn't say that. one thing caused that event . right. and caused that event. right. and i rhhhh— caused that event. right. and i rhhhh rhe— caused that event. right. and i think the other— caused that event. right. and i think the other issues. exactly. hew— think the other issues. exactly. hew knew.— think the other issues. exactly. vew knew. we— think the other issues. exactly. you know, we don't know what's going— you know, we don't know what's going-in— you know, we don't know what's oehholhh eheheye— you know, we don't know what's going in anyone's and going on in anyone's head. and it's going on in anyone's head. and he e— going on in anyone's head. and he e eh— going on in anyone's head. and it's a bit dangerous to leap to rheee— it's a bit dangerous to leap to these conclusions.— it's a bit dangerous to leap to these conclusions. also, it's a bit dangerous to leap to these ittnclusions. also, it's a bit dangerous to leap to these it comestns. also, it's a bit dangerous to leap to these it comestnsthis, also, it's a bit dangerous to leap to these it comestnsthis, you , it's a bit dangerous to leap to these it comestnsthis, you do when it comes to this, you do heed— when it comes to this, you do need e— when it comes to this, you do need e eyererh— when it comes to this, you do need a system, don't you? you heed— need a system, don't you? you heed-ahe— need a system, don't you? you heed-ahe-hr-el need to. and of course, it's eheeehwh— stressful. you know, whenever yee— stressful. you know, whenever ye eeeeeeee— stressful. you know, whenever you're assessed in— stressful. you know, whenever you're assessed in your workplacer_ you're assessed in your workplace, stressful. but you're assessed in your worithe ce, stressful. but you're assessed in your worithe solutiontressful. but you're assessed in your worithe solution isn't ul. but you're assessed in your worithe solution isn't to but you're assessed in your worithe solution isn't to just but the solution isn't to just ehehheh— but the solution isn't to just abolish. absolutely. but i think her— abolish. absolutely. but i think rhw-rhere— abolish. absolutely. but i think that-there sort- abolish. absolutely. but i think that-there sort of- abolish. absolutely. but i think that there sort of the new that there there sort of the new is that there there sort of the new he heehewhy— that there there sort of the new is basically saying— that there there sort of the new is basically saying that who is hehehhe— is basically saying that who is holding ofsted— is basically saying that who is holding ofsted accountable right as holding ofsted accountable right we wehh— holding ofsted accountable right we wehh we— holding ofsted accountable right as well and then— holding ofsted accountable right as well and then because there are as well and then because there eeh— as well and then because there eeh er— as well and then because there are sort of supposedly 2000 eeheehe— are sort of supposedly 2000 schools were _ are sort of supposedly 2000 schools were given the wrong ghee— schools were given the wrong orwhe we— schools were given the wrong orwhe we ee— schools were given the wrong grade and so maybe they no no hherhrwrheh— grade and so maybe they no no institution is— grade and so maybe they no no institution is above being heehee— institution is above being looked into.— institution is above being looked into. and certainly on he— looked into. and certainly on he heeh— looked into. and certainly on he heeh er— looked into. and certainly on the back of what_ looked into. and certainly on the back of what happened. but one interesting— the back of what happened. but one interesting point— the back of what happened. but one interesting point is that they don't ofsted doesn't factor in of the financial stuff, in any of the financial stuff, how the schools sort of allocate their funds and with underfunding that can have a massive impact. and of course wher— massive impact. and of course whw rhey— massive impact. and of course what they offer— massive impact. and of course what they offer and— it. and of course what they offer and what i'm tritt. and of course what they offer and what i'm a bit what they offer and what i'm a hh rhherrwer.— what they offer and what i'm a bit mistrust. i— what they offer and what i'm a bit mistrust. i mean the werhehw— bit mistrust. i mean the national education union like bit mistrust. i mean the na activistducation union like bit mistrust. i mean the na activistducati now nion like bit mistrust. i mean the na activistducati now and like bit mistrust. i mean the na activistducati now and it like an activist body now and it wweye— an activist body now and it wweye-re- an activist body now and it wweye-re he- an activist body now and it. always-to be .new always seems to be the new hewher— always seems to be the new hewher whe— always seems to be the new leader who-in- always seems to be the new leader who in september leader who starts in september is leader who starts in september he—rw— leader who starts in september he—rw reh- leader who starts in september is_far left crank. is like a proper far left crank ewhhho— is like a proper far left cranki calling,_|ntifada calling, globalise the intifada we— calling, globalise the intifada wet-hem.— calling, globalise the intifada and-right-andi

and all this, right. going and rhwehhhe. — and all this, right. going andi marching. _potential marching. and one potential positive that it positive of ofsted is that it holds schools to account just by existing so existence existing so the existence of some regulatory body some sort of regulatory body that's you that's going to give you a grade, it's not grade, even if it's not as harshly phrased, does something. grade, even if it's not as harshltthe rased, does something. grade, even if it's not as harshltthe idea. okay,;omething. grade, even if it's not as harshltthe idea. okay, well, hing. that's the idea. okay, well, we're that's the idea. okay, well, we-re-erheh- that's the idea. okay, well, we're - stick with i that's the idea. okay, well,| we're - stick with the we're going to stick with the heme— we're going to stick with the theme education. now, theme of education. now, hhwreeey-e— theme of education. now, thursday's oxford thursday's express oxford uhhwerehry.— university. josh us, oxford eehheeet— university. josh us, oxford- college,_cancelling college, accused of cancelling swer— college, accused of cancelling sehhr—rew- college, accused of cancelling saint—row over saint george's day in row over eid saint george's day in row over he w—rhr— saint george's day in row over eid al—fitr feast— saint george's day in row over eid al—fitr feast. _ saint george's day in row over eid al—fitr feast . eid al—fitr feast. so this is interesting. iwas eid al—fitr feast. so this is interesting. i was i- eid al—fitr feast. tg i was i was interesting. i was i was wherehhho— interesting. i was i was listening to— interesting. i was i was listening to this- tg i was i was listening to this about ttg i was i was listening to this about on tt3 i was i was listening to this about on the weehhy— listening to this about on the weekly sceptic— listening to this about on the weekly sceptic podcast. yes my rwewrhre— weekly sceptic podcast. yes my rwewrhre rhy— weekly sceptic podcast. yes my favourite my favourite of many wherehere— favourite my favourite of many wherehere rhy— favourite my favourite of many listeners, my favourite podcast . ahe— listeners, my favourite podcast . and yeah— listeners, my favourite podcast . and yeah .— listeners, my favourite podcast . and yeah , this— listeners, my favourite podcast . and yeah , this is one of . and yeah, this is one of rheeet— . and yeah, this is one of rheee. ee— . and yeah, this is one of those, as louis- . and yeah, this is one of those, as louis schaefer might say,— those, as louis schaefer might eey. eerhewhw— those, as louis schaefer might say, somewhat of— those, as louis schaefer might say, somewhat of a non—story. he— say, somewhat of a non—story. h-e ere— say, somewhat of a non—story. h-e er— say, somewhat of a non—story. it's one of those— say, somewhat of a non—story. it's one of those annoying- it's one of those annoying articles where you kind of get to the end and you go, okay, gosh. all right. so basically there's this saint george's day feast and you read it and you 90, feast and you read it and you go, god, is obviously go, oh my god, this is obviously some ancient edition. and they meet year. the dons meet every year. and the dons get and all that fancy get together and all that fancy stuff imagine going on stuff you can imagine going on at probably went at oxford. you probably went there, do you to there, didn't you? do you go to oxford? exactly. so you oxford? yeah exactly. so you probably _there. - oxford? yeah exactly. so you probably there. you're probably went there. you're hhhehhho— probably went there. you're therehhho re— probably went there. you're listening to your classical probably went there. you're listeniroh,» your classical probably went there. you're listeniroh,» yotgoodness.. probably went there. you're listeniroh,» yotgoodness. this is music. oh, my goodness. this is nothing me. anyway,

nothing to do with me. anyway, the you and nothing to do with me. anyway, the-you and then- nothing to do with me. anyway, the-you and then it- the point is, you and then it oeee— the point is, you and then it oeee-rheh— the point is, you and then it goes-then-find. the point is, you and then it. goes.-then-find out the point is, you and then it- goes. _then .find out that goes. and then you find out that actually it just ran for three years. yeah this maudling years. yeah this is maudling college, and, you know, you're right. that right. the article implies that it's ancient tradition. right. the article implies that it's started tradition. right. the article implies that it's started andition. right. the article implies that it's started and then 2016 they started and then finished 2019. i so finished it 2019. i mean, so yeah. and they're basically yeah. and now they're basically hehehho— yeah. and now they're basically herring-rewr— yeah. and now they're basically holding-feast for— yeah. and now they're basically holding-feast for the- glib?" and now they're basically holding feast for the end holding this feast for the end of holding this feast for the end er rhe— holding this feast for the end er we we— holding this feast for the end of eid and-not— holding this feast for the end of eid and not that big of eid and it's not that big a hew.— of eid and it's not that big a derailm— of eid and it's not that big a deawlit? — of eid and it's not that big a deal,.it? nick— of eid and it's not that big a deal,.it? nick it- of eid and it's not that big a deal,.it? nick it is.- of eid and it's not that big a deal, it? tr rt.

no. but it's the tradition of swer— no. but it's the tradition of sehhr-hey- no. but it's the tradition of saint day itself, no. but it's the tradition of. saint-day itself, not saint george's day itself, not of saint george's day itself, not er—h— saint george's day itself, noti of_l definitely of their specific. i definitely think george's day. we think saint george's day. we should take more pride and should take more pride in it and it should celebrated further. should take more pride in it and itagree.d celebrated further. should take more pride in it and itagree with celebrated further. should take more pride in it and itagree with that. irated further. should take more pride in it and itagree with that. well, further. should take more pride in it and itagree with that. well, ithher. should take more pride in it and itagree with that. well, i justtr. i agree with that. well, i just you— i agree with that. well, i just yew—eeeree- i agree with that. well, i just yew—eeeree wee| you know, saint george was hwrhheh— you know, saint george was turkish. these— you know, saint george was turkish. these are not just rereheh— turkish. these are not just foreign nonsense. you sound like ehe-hwhher— one of those twitter people. yeah.— one of those twitter people. yeah—rearw- yeah, well, i don't really mean it. i'm saying it wind. it. i'm just saying it to wind. wew— it. i'm just saying it to wind. wew-he— it. i'm just saying it to wind. wew-he eh— it. i'm just saying it to wind. you-is on twitter. - you up. he is on twitter. anyway.— you up. he is on twitter. anyway-up- you up. he is on twitter. anyway, up after you up. he is on twitter.- anyway,-up after the anyway, coming up after the brew.— anyway, coming up after the hreeh hew— anyway, coming up after the break, how the— anyway, coming up after the break, how the uk is tackling freew— break, how the uk is tackling fraud,-gambling- break, how the uk is tackling fraud, gambling industry fraud, how the gambling industry is fraud, how the gambling industry he—hre— fraud, how the gambling industry he—hre-heel is winning over mps. and bad| news for people who live in a eehhhee— news for people who live in a polluted area— news for people who live in a polluted area which most of polluted area which is most of us. polluted area which is most of eeh-h— polluted area which is most of us.-in a minute-

welcome back to headliners . your welcome back to headliners. your ther— welcome back to headliners. your the week— welcome back to headliners. your the heeh w— welcome back to headliners. your first look at thursday's heweewere— first look at thursday's newspapers and channel 4 causing eerrwrreerey— newspapers and channel 4 causing eehwrreerey ew— newspapers and channel 4 causing controversy now with a programme that controversy now with a programme rhw heehewhy— controversy now with a programme that basically proves societies in that basically proves societies hh eeehhhe— that basically proves societies hh eeehhhe .— that basically proves societies in decline , doesn't it, nick? in decline, doesn't it, nick? yeah.— in decline, doesn't it, nick? veeh. rewhy— in decline, doesn't it, nick? yeah, really weird.- in decline, doesn't it, nick? yeah, really weird. so- in decline, doesn't it, nick? yeah, really weird. so this is channel four's new body positive show, naked education . and as show, naked education. and as the mail are saying here, it sparks fury as the programme shows, adults stripping off and standing in front of

standing fully nude in front of children. about it. children. i tweeted about it. i said, flashers used to said, i said flashers used to have to buy a raincoat and hang around all day. but around at a park all day. but now they get channel series. now they get a channel 4 series. so progress. i think we so this is progress. i think we have a clip as well. do have a clip of it as well. do we? it probably will- rt. . do we? it probably will when we get to we? it probably will when we get re-erehehhy— we? it probably will when we get re-erehehhy he— we? it probably will when we get to - probably be -to - to we'll probably be able to ehew—rwhhl show it, but not the full hwehryt— show it, but not the full nudity, obviously. but the eweh— nudity, obviously. but the advert - shows - nudity, obviously. but the advert shows me nudity, obviously. but the- advert-shows me that's advert simply shows me that's not advert simply shows me that's her-her— advert simply shows me that'si not-notlflasher. josh not it. i'm not a flasher. josh hewhe— not it. i'm not a flasher. josh hewhe ehwhry. — not it. i'm not a flasher. josh howie clarify. do— not it. i'm not a flasher. josh howie clarify. do you- not it. josh howie clarify. do you does this concern you that— howie clarify. do you does this concern you that channel 4 are i rhey-we— concern you that channel 4 are i mean they've according to the eeweht— advert, unless the advert is rhhehewhhho—wei misleading, they've set up a scenario-there- misleading, they've set up a scenario there are scenario whereby there are ehhhereh— scenario whereby there are ehhhereh h— scenario whereby there are children in the— scenario whereby there are children in the room, 16 scenario whereby there are childolds,| the room, 16 scenario whereby there are childolds,| titotoom, 16 scenario whereby there are childolds,| tito 16m, 16 scenario whereby there are childolds,| tito 16 year 16 scenario whereby there are childolds,| tito 16 year oldss year olds, 14 to 16 year olds ehe— year olds, 14 to 16 year olds we why— year olds, 14 to 16 year olds and fully grown— year olds, 14 to 16 year olds and fully grown men get naked in ereer— and fully grown men get naked in rrehr er— and fully grown men get naked in rrehr er here.— and fully grown men get naked in front of them. yeah,— and fully grown men get naked in front of them. yeah, i don't see why— front of them. yeah, i don't see why rhw-e— front of them. yeah, i don't see why that's necessary . you can why that's necessary. you can reth— why that's necessary. you can rehh re— why that's necessary. you can rwh re eeewe— why that's necessary. you can talk to people about that stuff or talk to people about that stuff er w— talk to people about that stuff er h were— talk to people about that stuff or at least say— talk to people about that stuff or at least say that they're a wherew— or at least say that they're a different types. _ or at least say that they're a different types. there's an wowrhehr— different types. there's an argument there with different types. there's an- argument-there-with , argument out there that with, you— argument out there that with, yew hhew. — argument out there that with, you know, social— argument out there that with, you know, social media and herewwh— you know, social media and instagram and— you know, social media and instagram and all the other ewee.— instagram and all the other erwh. rhw— instagram and all the other stuff, that there _ instagram and all the other stuff, that there is a sort of whheh— stuff, that there is a sort of whheh hee— stuff, that there is a sort of which has always been the case rewhy— which has always been the case rewhy-hhe— which has always been the case rewhy-hhe er— which has always been the case really kind of ideal body which has always been the case really of kind of ideal body which has always been the case really of the kind of ideal body which has always been the case really of the time. ideal body which has always been the case really of the time. t/ritittt body which has always been the case really of the time. t/ritittt ' ttr:t types of the time. yeah. and certainly that can have an impact i think i think it's impact i think on i think it's healthy kids that, you impact i think on i think it's healthit kids that, you impact i think on i think it's healthit doesn't kids that, you impact i think on i think it's healthit doesn't matteriat, you impact i think on i think it's healthit doesn't matter whatiu impact i think on i think it's healthit doesn't matter what you know, it doesn't matter what you look like. that's fine. but this is look like. that's fine. but this

he-rrerh — look like. that's fine. but this he-rrerh rhe— look like. that's fine. but this is-from the advert- . that's fine. but this is from the advert the is a clip from the advert the hee. — is a clip from the advert the hee. eh— is a clip from the advert the hee. her why— is a clip from the advert the kids. but why do— is a clip from the advert the kids. but why do they need to do this specifically?— kids. but why do they need to do this specifically? the this specifically? and then the hee— this specifically? and then the kids - because. - this specifically? and then the kids because. t/ritittt kids are shot because. yeah, heewee— kids are shot because. yeah, because abused by because they're being abused by some shouldn't show some people. you shouldn't show . to 16, i'm . is it legal? 14 to 16, i'm guessing it is legal because i believe they their consent. believe they had their consent. and they said they and what they said is after they ewe— and what they said is after they eehe—ewhheh- said they had support throughout. r:rirtt . said they had support- throughout. .don't know if throughout. so i don't know if there's therapist there there's a therapist there because obviously because you can obviously sex education you education videos and stuff, you see nudity and everything. and that's perfectly but see nudity and everything. and that's perfectly-but when that's perfectly legal. but when rhere-e— that's perfectly legal. but when there's-physical- that's perfectly legal. but when there's physical people there's actual physical people in there's actual physical people hh—hwe- in the room, i would have rhewehr— in the room, i would have. thought—different thought there was a different erehewe— thought there was a different erehewe- — thought there was a different standard- the- thought there was a different standard 3 standard there. the range, i think only way this happens think the only way this happens is people channel is that people like channel 4 live weird ultra live in this sort of weird ultra liberal because would live in this sort of weird ultra libeibe because would live in this sort of weird ultra libeibe allowedrecause would live in this sort of weird ultra libeibe allowed to ause would live in this sort of weird ultra libeibe allowed to happen? would live in this sort of weird ultra libeibe allowed to happen? any ld this be allowed to happen? any normal person stop normal person goes, stop, stop the one did the madness. but no one did that. it's a live painting that. yeah it's a live painting class. you that. yeah it's a live painting class . you can't have to be class. you can't you have to be overlfor— class. you can't you have to be ewerlrer-vew— class. you can't you have to be over-for-you know,- t you can't you have to be over for you know, that over 18 for that. you know, that eeh— over 18 for that. you know, that eeh-ahe— over 18 for that. you know, that sort _and that's- over 18 for that. you know, that sort _and that's not. sort of thing. and that's not eexwwheee— sort of thing. and that's not sexualised really. sexualised at all. really. hhw-e— sexualised at all. really. that's my that's interesting. what? my art reeeher.— that's interesting. what? my art teacher.-well,_ that's interesting. what? my art teacher. well, you've got teacher. yeah, well, you've got to teacher. yeah, well, you've got relewer— teacher. yeah, well, you've got to.over.you're- teacher. yeah, well, you've got to over you're sure? to be over 18. you're sure? yeah.— to be over 18. you're sure? yeah-weer- to be over 18. you're sure? yeah. _want to- to be over 18. you're sure? yeah. want to raise yeah. i don't want to raise rheee—oh- yeah. i don't want to raise| those—oh, dear. those memories. oh, dear. yeah he. — those memories. oh, dear. yeah he. rhe— those memories. oh, dear. yeah the. the commissioner- those memories. oh, dear. yeah. the. the commissioner-she the. the commissioner says she wants. shows wants. i want populist shows with scale territory wise , i'm with scale territory wise, i'm very open. oh. blah, blah, blah . yeah.— very open. oh. blah, blah, blah . veeh. rhhe— very open. oh. blah, blah, blah . yeah, this is. this is a movement of breaking down, safeguarding that has been going

on in our society probably for the last 5 to 10 years. who benefit less from children feeling that it's okay to be naked in front of very strange. it's wrong. okay we've got the hhrhee— it's wrong. okay we've got the hhrhee heh. — it's wrong. okay we've got the times next. this— it's wrong. okay we've got the times next. this is— it's wrong. okay we've got the times next. this is a story ehew— times next. this is a story eheh hew— times next. this is a story about how powerful the gambling hhewerry— about how powerful the gambling hhewerry wee— about how powerful the gambling industry tree has— about how powerful the gambling industry tree has become. now where— industry tree has become. now aeeere ehe— industry tree has become. now ascots and concerts. nick, rhw-e— ascots and concerts. nick, rhw-e yew. — ascots and concerts. nick, that's you. yeah- ascots and concerts. nick, that's you. yeah how the gambling industry tries to win over mps. apparently hundreds over mps. so apparently hundreds of thousand pounds have been spent influence reforms and spent to influence reforms and the under consideration the reforms under consideration are limits on online stakes, affordability checks for punters, on sports punters, ban on sports sponsorship, etcetera, and the idea is they sort of try and work with mps and try and get things in their favour. and it's slightly questionable way and other questionable things like william hill was given a 19.2 million fine for a series of widespread and alarming failures, which does sound quite alarming. and it points out here more than 400 people take their lives because gambling lives because of gambling problems. i'm against it. problems. so i'm against it. safety general. saw it safety ism in general. we saw it reach of apotheosis reach its sort of apotheosis with was completely with covid and it was completely deranged and in in in a way, why

don't we just that bad to don't we just is it that bad to have hamlet mild on have hamlet, the mild cigar on tv did when we grew up? tv like we did when we grew up? it was mild, but why is it was only mild, but why is gambling allowed sort of slip gambling allowed to sort of slip through the net with cigarette adverts are banned, cigars are banned, but it's just if you watch like watch football, it's like gamble, , gamble. the watch football, it's like gamblthing , gamble. the watch football, it's like gamblthing with , gamble. the watch football, it's like gamblthing with raymble. the watch football, it's like gamblthing with ray cane. the watch football, it's like gamblthing with ray can be he watch football, it's like gamblthing with ray can be ie whole thing with ray can be i mean, know, i've known mean, you know, i've known gamblers can really gamblers. it can be really eeweerwhho— gamblers. it can be really devastating .— gamblers. it can be really devastating . but- 3 it can be really devastating . but of course, devastating. but of course, whhrhwehy— devastating. but of course, ultimately there personal ultimately there is personal responsibility— ultimately there is personal. responsibility-know? responsibility there, you know? veeh — responsibility there, you know? veeht-yew-we- yeah, but then you've got eeeherheh— yeah, but then you've got addiction issues. itr: yeah, but then you've got- addiction issues. .and they're addiction issues. so and they're saying there's an mp who's going, it's like nought going, oh it's only like nought point actually point 3% of people. and actually supposedly it's more like 3. that's a significant chunk of people whose lives essentially get destroyed. the question you're saying is why? the answer is , i believe the revenue that is, i believe the revenue that the government picks up, it's you know, when someone, when a company william gets company like william hill gets fined . 19.2 million and this is fined. 19.2 million and this is a like a multi billion dollar industry , who's the interesting industry, who's the interesting i don't want to get all conspiracy or whatever, but that's essentially what it is. they should have tougher. they were supposedly much were bringing in supposedly much tougher making tougher law in terms of making sure who were

sure that people who were gambled you could see that gambled that you could see that they money gamble they had enough money to gamble with and with background checks and whatnot , that a lot whatnot, that supposedly a lot of been watered down, but of it's been watered down, but a lot of it's the internet now, isn't it? anyway, so like anyone gamble— isn't it? anyway, so like anyone can gamble online— . .7’ anyway, so like anyone can gamble online and but i rhhhh— can gamble online and but i rhhhh yew-e— can gamble online and but i think you'd-to- can gamble online and but i think you'd to like hook up think you'd have to like hook up to think you'd have to like hook up he yew— think you'd have to like hook up he yewr hehh— think you'd have to like hook up to your bank account just to your bank account and just make— to your bank account and just rhwe-hwe- to your bank account and just make-have the- to your bank account and just. make-have the money. make sure you have the money. ahe— make sure you have the money. are-te— make sure you have the money. are-te-yew— make sure you have the money. are-re-yew oer- make sure you have the money. i and .to .you get someone and also to stop you get someone went spent £20,000 within went in and spent £20,000 within like minutes something. like ten minutes or something. okay, to okay, well, look, we're going to move mirror now and move on to the mirror now and the days of the uk being a paradise fraudsters is looks paradise for fraudsters is looks like behind us. josh paradise for fraudsters is looks like it's behind us. josh paradise for fraudsters is looks like it's beitoj us. josh paradise for fraudsters is looks like it's beitoj u:on.)sh paradise for fraudsters is looks like it's beitoj uron. isi paradise for fraudsters is looks like it's beitoj uron. is it? nah, it's going to go on. is it? yeah— nah, it's going to go on. is it? veehlrheeh— nah, it's going to go on. is it? yeahimean,-is- nah, it's going to go on. is it? yeahimean,-is like- nah, it's going to go on. is it? yeah mean, is like a dent yeah i mean, this is like a dent in yeah i mean, this is like a dent heeeeh-— yeah i mean, this is like a dent in-ocean, right?— yeah i mean, this is like a dent in .ocean, right? 1%- yeah i mean, this is like a dent in ocean, right? 1% of those in the ocean, right? 1% of those crimes actually— in the ocean, right? 1% of those crimes actually go— in the ocean, right? 1% of those crimes actually go to court, let wehe— crimes actually go to court, let wehe-yew— crimes actually go to court, let alone-you know,- crimes actually go to court, let alone you know, found alone be, you know, found owhhy. — alone be, you know, found owhhy. hur— alone be, you know, found guilty. but police- alone be, you know, found- guilty. but police - dozens guilty. but police raid dozens of and cyber of homes and arrest cyber crooks, personal info crooks, selling personal info for £0.56. that seems very for just £0.56. that seems very ehew. — for just £0.56. that seems very ehew. _thh— for just £0.56. that seems very ehew. _thh he— for just £0.56. that seems very cheap. that is like cheap. well, that is like someone me who doesn't someone like me who doesn't really money is really have any money and is just boring that i'm just quite boring that i'm a fixed £0.56 person. but you with fixed £o.56 person. but you with yew— fixed £0.56 person. but you with yew eewwehey— fixed £o.56 person. but you with your solvency and— : 170 tetty tt but you with your solvency and whatnot , : 170 3�*7 tt but you with your solvency and whatnot, i'm hheohhhho— your solvency and whatnot, i'm hheohhhho yew— your solvency and whatnot, i'm imagining you were probably like a imagining you were probably like e hero— imagining you were probably like e hero ehew— imagining you were probably like a £5.10 mean i'm— imagining you were probably like a £5.10 mean i'm offended by her— a £5.10 mean i'm offended by her .— a £5.10 mean i'm offended by her . wew— a £5.10 mean i'm offended by that . you think— a £5.10 mean i'm offended by that . you think you think your that. you think you think your eereehw— that. you think you think your personal data— that. you think you think your personal data is— that. you think you think your personal data is worth more? i rhhhh— personal data is worth more? i think—stealing- personal data is worth more? i think—stealing my. think someone's stealing my heehrhry— think someone's stealing my heehrhry .— think someone's stealing my

heehrhry . okay.— think someone's stealing my identity . okay. i've identity. okay. i've got a perry— identity. okay. i've got a pretty good— identity. okay. i've got a pretty good identity. i'm happy identity. okay. i've got a pretty aood identity. i'm happy identity. okay. i've got a pretty a £0.56. tity. i'm happy identity. okay. i've got a prettya £0.56. i'm happy identity. okay. i've got a pretty a £0.56. pr identity. okay. i've got a- pretty a £0.56. i'm totally fine being a £0.56. i'm totally fine with they've gone with it. but yeah, they've gone in arrested in there. they've arrested a couple and obviously couple of people and obviously this an international ring. this is an international ring. this is fbi. there's the dutch police . it's called the genesis police. it's called the genesis market. so anybody could just eeh— market. so anybody could just eeh er— market. so anybody could just eeh er reek— market. so anybody could just eeh er reeh upr— market. so anybody could just sort of rock up, even- so anybody could just sort of rock up, even if you're her— sort of rock up, even if you're her eweeeeeehy— sort of rock up, even if you're not supposedly going to do erhrhhhw— not supposedly going to do criminal activity, people can do it criminal activity, people can do hr re— criminal activity, people can do hr re rhe— criminal activity, people can do it to find this— criminal activity, people can do it to find this information out. her— it to find this information out. hh er— it to find this information out. hh er eewree— it to find this information out. but of course, it— it to find this information out. but of course, it does- it to find this information out. but of course, it does make criminal activity. okay. and you can get your people's facebook details. amazon , paypal, details. amazon, paypal, werhhw— details. amazon, paypal, netflix, i much - details. amazon, paypal, netflix,-much of- : amazon, paypal, netflix, much of our netflix, so much of our information— netflix, so much of our information out netflix, so much of our information-out i information is out there. i mean, i'm surprised- information is out there. i mean, i'm surprised this doesn't happen nick, happen more often. nick, i didn't has all taken didn't know this has all taken place in the national crime agency didn't know agency in grimsby. i didn't know they yeah, it's all in they had it. yeah, it's all in grimsby. andrew. them. grimsby. andrew. i've seen them. rewr— grimsby. andrew. i've seen them. your identities— grimsby. andrew. i've seen them. your identities there— c.” andrew. i've seen them. your identities there and it's a lot your identities there and it's a her—set— your identities there and it's a. her—set-veeh. lot more than 56, though. yeah. veere— lot more than 56, though. yeah. wewre he— lot more than 56, though. yeah. wewre he going— lot more than 56, though. yeah. yours is going for— lot more than 56, though. yeah. yours is going for about £7. yeah— yours is going for about £7. yeah he— yours is going for about £7. yeah, i'd want— yours is going for about £7. yeah, i'd want 156 as yeah, i'd want to be 156 as wet.— yeah, i'd want to be 156 as wew-eeh- yeah, i'd want to be 156 as well.-part that'si well. the only part that's eheehee— well. the only part that's shocked me— well. the only part that's shocked me was this guy rob rehee— jones did a director—general of the-economic- jones did a director—general of the economic crime the national economic crime eehrre. — the national economic crime eehrre. lewd.— the national economic crime centre. said, yeah, the centre. he said, yeah, the erehherh — centre. he said, yeah, the hrehherh _yewi problem with this is you don't ewee-re— problem with this is you don't ewee-re-e- problem with this is you don'ti even _to - a criminal. even need to know a criminal. wew— even need to know a criminal. wew-ther— even need to know a criminal. you just completely self you can just completely self ereh— you can just completely self ereh-rhhe— you can just completely self ereh-rhhe wh- you can just completely self start-this up as- you can just completely self start this up as soon as start and set this up as soon as you— start and set this up as soon as yew whhe. — start and set this up as soon as yew the why— start and set this up as soon as you like. why are— start and set this up as soon as you like. why are you telling start and set this up as soon as you lithat ilhy are you telling start and set this up as soon as you lithat wasare you telling start and set this up as soon as you lithat was myiou telling start and set this up as soon as you lithat was my onlyalling start and set this up as soon as you lithat was my only problem them that was my only problem whh—

them that was my only problem whrh-ohey.— them that was my only problem whrh-ohey. rhe— them that was my only problem with .okay. the metro - with it. okay. the metro now dormant cells getting dormant cancerous cells getting a wake call thanks to a wake up call here thanks to polluted they've polluted air. yes, they've given this the person this story to the person with crippling health anxiety. so i think that producer, crippling health anxiety. so i think that-producer, the. think that my producer, the ereeweere— think that my producer, the producers, don't care about my heehh— producers, don't care about my health problems.— health problems. so this is a air health problems. so this is a ehr—wel air pollution can wake up eerrhehr— air pollution can wake up dormant cells— air pollution can wake up dormant cells that cause lung cancer non—smoker. so dormant cells that cause lung can(is non—smoker. so dormant cells that cause lung can(is a non—smoker. so dormant cells that cause lung can(is a new non—smoker. so dormant cells that cause lung can(is a new thing—smoker. so dormant cells that cause lung can(is a new thing—siworry so this is a new thing to worry weer. — this is a new thing to worry weer. ahe— this is a new thing to worry about. and amount of about. and certain amount of people— about. and certain amount of eeeehe .— about. and certain amount of eeeehe . wew.— about. and certain amount of people , well, people if people, well, people die even if rhey— people, well, people die even if rhey hweh-r— people, well, people die even if they haven't smoked. and eeewehrwy— they haven't smoked. and eeewehrwy hr— they haven't smoked. and apparently it can i can't even read— apparently it can i can't even rewh hr— apparently it can i can't even rewh hr eeh— apparently it can i can't even read it can you— apparently it can i can't even read it can you do— apparently it can i can't even read it can you do it? well, the hrehherh — read it can you do it? well, the erehherh he— read it can you do it? well, the problem is two— read it can you do it? well, the problem is two stories is you get— problem is two stories is you oer rheee— problem is two stories is you get these _time. - problem is two stories is you get these time. ' tr: problem is two stories is you. get these _time. and to get these all the time. and to be get these all the time. and to he rehe— get these all the time. and to he the he— get these all the time. and to be fair, it's pretty extensive be fair, it's a pretty extensive study. more study. they've looked at more than but there's than 400,000 people. but there's often that say, often these articles that say, you you eat it's you know, if you eat this, it's carcinogenic saw an carcinogenic. then i've saw an article saying is article saying oxygen is carcinogenic. i can't up carcinogenic. i can't give up oxygen. we can't oxygen. you know, we can't there's to what we can there's a limit to what we can do. and we live in london. well, is limit, it well, there is a limit, but it ewe— well, there is a limit, but it eeye hr— well, there is a limit, but it eeye h we— well, there is a limit, but it says if we .stop- well, there is a limit, but it says if we stop cells from says if we can stop cells from orewhhe— says if we can stop cells from growing .response- says if we can stop cells from growing response to air growing in response to air eewhhheh— growing in response to air pollution, reduce pollution, we can reduce the rheh— pollution, we can reduce the rhehlhwho— pollution, we can reduce the rhehlhwho-er- pollution, we can reduce the risk-lung-or of- risk of lung cancer or of courser-justl risk of lung cancer or of. course,-just stop risk of lung cancer or of- course,-just stop the course, we could just stop the air course, we could just stop the ehr—se- course, we could just stop thei air—so actually, air pollution. so. so actually, really takeaway the really the takeaway from the article sort out the article is let's sort out the pollution is fine, pollution issues, which is fine, essentially, which is a reasonable 66,000 people die a year from lung cancer who've never smoked. i don't smoke. i

eeh-r— never smoked. i don't smoke. i eeh-r-re— never smoked. i don't smoke. i eeh-r-re ehe— never smoked. i don't smoke. i don't-to die if— never smoked. i don't smoke. i don't-to die if this- never smoked. i don't smoke. i don't-to die if this is- don't want to die if this is going— don't want to die if this is oehholhehh— don't want to die if this is going help that, going to help fix that, then wew. — going to help fix that, then grew. _the- going to help fix that, then great. _the thing great. and that's the only thing on the other side, the only thing i wondered is, is this metro propaganda? well thing i wondered is, is this metrccould propaganda? well thing i wondered is, is this metrccould be. look anda? well thing i wondered is, is this metrccould be. look atda? well thing i wondered is, is this metrccould be. look at nicky'sl well, could be. look at nicky's hewrh— well, could be. look at nicky's health anxiety— well, could be. look at nicky's health anxiety versus- t: look at nicky's health anxiety versus metro ereeeoehee— health anxiety versus metro propaganda environment. titht propaganda environment. oh, i eeh-r— propaganda environment. oh, i don't know. it's— propaganda environment. titht r:rirtt . it's tricky. t/ritittt don't know. it's tricky. yeah, it is a tricky one. okay, well, coming up after the break, why our memory is unreliable. what the key to intelligence is and why our memory is unreliable. we see you in three minutes .

welcome back to headliners. your first look at thursday's news papers. now, guardian something about memory. i can't remember. what is it? yes very good. human memory may be what is it? yes very good. - human memory may be unreliable. wher— human memory may be unreliable. aher ther— human memory may be unreliable. aher the e— human memory may be unreliable. aher the e rew— human memory may be unreliable. after just a few seconds, scientists— after just a few seconds, scientists are _ after just a few seconds, scientists are fine now. the eeeehh — scientists are fine now. the second. well,— scientists are fine now. the second. well, here's the thing. may that may be because they did

some experiments— iiity that may be because they did some experiments with let's ears ehe— some experiments with let's ears we rhhrrere— some experiments with let's ears we ehe— some experiments with let's ears and mirrors and blah , blah, and mirrors and blah, blah, hheh. — and mirrors and blah, blah, hheh. ahe— and mirrors and blah, blah, blah. and then- and mirrors and blah, blah, blah. and then it- and mirrors and blah, blah, blah. . and mirrors and blah, blah, blah. ' tr: . and mirrors and blah, blah,- blah. and then it turns out that people remembered the myriad letters as as the as normal way round, essentially. is this because like,— round, essentially. is this because like, we- round, essentially. is this because like, we all- tr: is this because like, we all forget ereer— because like, we all forget erwh thw— because like, we all forget stuff that happened a while ago. but stuff that happened a while ago. err—rhe- but generally speaking, the ereer— but generally speaking, the ewee-ther— but generally speaking, the stuff just happened, you're stuff that just happened, you're not stuff that just happened, you're her whhe— stuff that just happened, you're her the e— stuff that just happened, you're not like a goldfish where you heee— not like a goldfish where you heee hr— not like a goldfish where you heee h h— not like a goldfish where you lose it inlcouple- not like a goldfish where you lose it in couple of seconds. lose it in a couple of seconds. na.— lose it in a couple of seconds. he. hur— lose it in a couple of seconds. he. her whh— lose it in a couple of seconds. he. her whh h— lose it in a couple of seconds. no, but what i think— lose it in a couple of seconds. no, but what i think is- lose it in a couple of seconds. no, but what i think is more interesting here is do know interesting here is do you know that where speak and that thing where you speak and then back what then someone repeats back what you said, but totally you just said, but totally different just said. different to what you just said. and didn't and you're like, they didn't hew— and you're like, they didn't hew- — and you're like, they didn't hew- .rheyi and you're like, they didn't- hear- .they because hear you. yeah > or they because people bring their own interpretations they interpretations of what they expect hear they expect to hear or what they think they're going to say. yes. wait a minute. i never said her.— yes. wait a minute. i never said that—being. that. why think you're being redee— that. why think you're being whee-ew- that. why think you're being rude?-say, well,- rude? like they say, well, i ther— rude? like they say, well, i twer-rhw— rude? like they say, well, i just-that and- rude? like they say, well, i just that and you weren't just said that and you weren't wherehhhe. — listening. it's like, well, mayhe— listening. it's like, well,- heyhe—rhey-we maybe they were. and they've ther— maybe they were. and they've twer—veeh i maybe they were. and they've i twer—veeh > just got this condition. yeah > so just got this condition. yeah > se-he— just got this condition. yeah > se-he whh- just got this condition. yeah > se-he whh hr- just got this condition. yeah > so-be what it is- just got this condition. yeah >i so-be what it is more so this could be what it is more so i think gist of it is, is so i think the gist of it is, is when you're expecting something different then you different or, or then then you will to will maybe more likely to remember. fill remember. yeah, you'll fill in based your prior knowledge based on your prior knowledge preconceptions. because i've based on your prior knowledge preco having ns. because i've based on your prior knowledge preco having this because i've based on your prior knowledge preco having this recently. 've based on your prior knowledge preco having this recently. i'm been having this recently. i'm werrhee— worried about this when i'm rewhhhe— worried about this when i'm rearing—reh- worried about this when i'mi reading—i'm like, reading a book and i'm like, i eeh-r—whw- reading a book and i'm like, i. can't-what happened reading a book and i'm like, i- can't-what happened on can't remember what happened on the

can't remember what happened on rhe-heoe.— can't remember what happened on rhe-eeee. hhw-e- the previous page. that's hermet— the previous page. that's normal. they— the previous page. that's normal. they find spot. they normal. they find spot. oh, they do normal. they find spot. oh, they rte-wew— normal. they find spot. oh, they ee-veeh h— normal. they find spot. oh, they ee-veeh h ee- normal. they find spot. oh, they do yeah i was worried do find spot. yeah i was worried ehew— do find spot. yeah i was worried ehewr-veeh— do find spot. yeah i was worried eheh-veeh — do find spot. yeah i was worried about-yeah they- do find spot. yeah i was worried about yeah ttrity about that. yeah they solve the davinci code . what am i totally davinci code. what am i totally disagree with what you just said andrew i remember it andrew if i remember it correctly, a few moments ago when said that we can forget when you said that we can forget stuff distant past. but stuff in the distant past. but remember, near i'm completely opposite. people say to me, what did no idea. did you do yesterday? no idea. but ask me about but if you ask me about something happened something that happened when i was someone was eight, you know, someone annoyed when was eight annoyed me when i was eight years there. years old. it's all there. oh, yeah. i can hold to yeah. bitterness. i can hold to on forever. oh,— yeah. bitterness. i can hold to on forever. oh, yeah. but i suppose the takeaway is, suppose the takeaway of this is, you just human memory. you know, just human memory. unreliable recreate unreliable we recreate narratives mine. narratives of our own mine. mine's absolutely mine's reliable. absolutely ehew— mine's reliable. absolutely ohey. wew.— mine's reliable. absolutely okay, well, the— mine's reliable. absolutely okay, well, the express some okay, well, the express now some good vegans . i like the good news for vegans. i like the way you say good news for vegans. i like the wey yew eey weoeh— 3: 3 i like the way you say vegan doddie. what ehew— way you say vegan doddie. what eheh yew — way you say vegan doddie. what about you? vegan— way you say vegan doddie. what about you? 3 let's do the about you? vegan. let's do the weeeh— about you? vegan. let's do the weoeh erery. — about you? vegan. let's do the weoeh erery. h— about you? vegan. let's do the vegan story. i imagine- about you? 3 t let's do the vegan story. tititr3 3 vegan story. i imagine vegans being teutonic. don't don't mock the executive producer. so the express . yes. has lab- rit>j

all-accept.-gates- meat propaganda. they want us all accept. gates as all to accept. bill gates as eyhrherhe— all to accept. bill gates as synthetic-which- all to accept. bill gates as synthetic which i never synthetic meat, which i never whhh. — synthetic meat, which i never whhh. .rhhe— synthetic meat, which i never will. .this isn't- synthetic meat, which i never will. .this isn't fake- synthetic meat, which i never. will. .this isn't fake meat. will. but this isn't fake meat. they're actual meat. they're growing actual meat. fake and it's . and fake meat. andrew and it's. and they-we— fake meat. andrew and it's. and rhey-we-hh— fake meat. andrew and it's. and rhey-we-hh ee. — fake meat. andrew and it's. and they've in 36. they've found they've put in 36. they've found her— they've put in 36. they've found her when— they've put in 36. they've found that when meat— they've put in 36. they've found that when meat has 36% fat, rher-e— that when meat has 36% fat, rher-e whhe— that when meat has 36% fat, that's like the— that when meat has 36% fat, that's like the perfect fat rehe— that's like the perfect fat rerhelse— that's like the perfect fat ratio. so they're trying to ratio. so. so they're trying to recreate that. _ ratio. so. so they're trying to recreate that. - it's - ratio. so. so they're trying to recreate that. it's all just recreate that. but it's all just he— recreate that. but it's all just hr-e eh— recreate that. but it's all just it's all total— recreate that. but it's all just it's all total propaganda for he— it's all total propaganda for this terrible— it's all total propaganda for this terrible fake this terrible and fake meat ewee— this terrible and fake meat ohwee yew— this terrible and fake meat ohwee yew-ee- this terrible and fake meat gives you as well. why gives you cancer as well. why eeh-r— gives you cancer as well. whyi don't—vegetables? don't we just eat vegetables? josh— don't we just eat vegetables? reeh we.— don't we just eat vegetables? reeh we. they-re— don't we just eat vegetables? josh no, they're bad. i- don't we just eat vegetables? \t§t inever josh no, they're bad. i never thought say josh no, they're bad. i never thought-say this,- josh no, they're bad. i never thought-say this, but- \t§t i never thought say this, but i'm thought i'd say this, but i'm rhheehhe— thought i'd say this, but i'm missing louis— thought i'd say this, but i'm missing louis schaefer what for thought i'd say this, but i'm missstory?uis schaefer what for thought i'd say this, but i'm missstory? s schaefer what for thought i'd say this, but i'm missstory? tiraefer what for thought i'd say this, but i'm missstory? fsrt.ttitrit�*"rit”it for this story? louis schaefer nothing to do with panellists who likes to eat nothing but obsessed meat. only obsessed with meat. only he would. he know. now would. he would know. now i'd whhe— would. he would know. now i'd the hen— would. he would know. now i'd the hen re— would. he would know. now i'd like him to have— would. he would know. now i'd like him to have the— : he would know. now i'd like him to have the meat test ehe— like him to have the meat test we eee— like him to have the meat test we hr— like him to have the meat test and see if this— like him to have the meat test and see if this tastes anything her. — and see if this tastes anything her. _the- and see if this tastes anything but. _like raw- and see if this tastes anythingj but. _like raw cats. but. louis eats like raw cats. well, he's best guy well, exactly. he's the best guy to. if it helps, i can you to. if it helps, i can tell you wher— to. if it helps, i can tell you wher hr— to. if it helps, i can tell you wher hr eeye. — to. if it helps, i can tell you what it says. .this- if it helps, i can tell you what it says. this is a non what it says. so this is a non erery— what it says. so this is a non erery .— what it says. so this is a non erery . ahe— what it says. so this is a non story . and -he'd - what it says. so this is a non story . and he'd say, story. and then he'd say, heee— story. and then he'd say,. heewee—yew story. and then he'd say,- because _you know because you know, but you know yee— because you know, but you know ye eer— because you know, but you know ye oer re— because you know, but you know ye oer re eer— because you know, but you know you've got to eat meat and watch out you've got to eat meat and watch err—wewhe— you've got to eat meat and watch err—wewhe eey.- you've got to eat meat and watch out—would say. and. out for gout, he would say. and rheh— out for gout, he would say. and rheh-eeyt— out for gout, he would say. and rheh-eey. rhe— out for gout, he would say. and then say, the death love then he'd say, the death of love ehe— then he'd say, the death of love end he— then he'd say, the death of love and no one would— then he'd say, the death of love and no one would know what he rheehr— and no one would know what he rheehrlhhew— and no one would know what he meant. know, amount of meant. you know, the amount of hehhhheh— meant. you know, the amount of pollution-caused- meant. you know, the amount of pollution caused by pollution that are caused by hhweereeh. — pollution that are caused by. livestock. _deal. livestock. this is a huge deal. if this they get this if this if they can get this meat and it tastes good and it has and all has the right texture and all the fat. yeah. what's wrong with

reeehhe— the fat. yeah. what's wrong with reeehhe rhe— the fat. yeah. what's wrong with feeding the _eat_ feeding the we'll eat the eyhrherhe— feeding the we'll eat thei synthetic-you'll synthetic meat and you'll be happy- _ synthetic meat and you'll be happy- .is_ synthetic meat and you'll be happy- .is all- happy. this is all wef propaganda. to propaganda. they want you to eat seb gorka because they don't want they it's climate want they want it's climate stuff, they want live stuff, but they want us to live miserable eating if miserable lives eating bugs. if it's and it's freezing cold houses and bugs synthetic meat, it's bugs eating synthetic meat, it's the meat the same thing. synthetic meat in house, in your the same thing. synthetic meat in minute house, in your the same thing. synthetic meat in minute city. house, in your the same thing. synthetic meat in minute city. i'lltuse, in your the same thing. synthetic meat in minute city. i'lltuse a n your the same thing. synthetic meat in minute city. i'lltuse a stopir 15 minute city. i'll put a stop 15 minute city. i'll put a stop 15 to watch the matrix. 15 minutes to watch the matrix. we're moving right times. we're moving on right times. now— we're moving on right times. wewtlyew— we're moving on right times. wewlyew weer— we're moving on right times. now, .you want to - we're moving on right times. now, you want to prove your now, if you want to prove your hhrehhheeheet — now, if you want to prove your intelligence,-a- now, if you want to prove your intelligence, a sheep. intelligence, don't be a sheep. josh— intelligence, don't be a sheep. reeh rheeee— intelligence, don't be a sheep. josh indeed as— intelligence, don't be a sheep. josh indeed as well— intelligence, don't be a sheep. :: nick maybe josh indeed as well. nick maybe just josh indeed as well. nick maybe twer erewe— josh indeed as well. nick maybe we erewe rher— josh indeed as well. nick maybe just prove that disproved- :: nick maybe just prove that disproved it. i eeh-r— just prove that disproved it. i eeh-r heew- — just prove that disproved it. i don't know. we'll— just prove that disproved it. i don't know. we'll see. - just prove that disproved it. don't know. we'll see. key to intelligence is refusal to follow the herd researchers fine. basically they're fine. so basically they're actually following genuine herds here. that's the joke of the story. hoofed animals and the ones that are kind of left to the side and don't have any mates they can problem solve and get food, get eaten as get food, but they get eaten as well. they get eaten. oh, i see. they— well. they get eaten. oh, i see. hhey ee— well. they get eaten. oh, i see. hhey ee. whhe— well. they get eaten. oh, i see. they do. like if— well. they get eaten. oh, i see. they do. like if you— well. they get eaten. oh, i see. they do. like if you if- they get eaten. oh, i see. they do. like if you if you're in they do. like if you if you're hh e— they do. like if you if you're hh e here— they do. like if you if you're in a herd and— they do. like if you if you're in a herd and you stray, you're hweh— in a herd and you stray, you're hweh-hhhehy— in a herd and you stray, you're much-likely to- in a herd and you stray, you're much likely to get. iiity much more likely to get. maybe there— much more likely to get. maybe that's—animals- much more likely to get. maybe that's animals never that's why hoofed animals never sort of up the evolutionary sort of went up the evolutionary ladder. maybe. turns out ladder. maybe. but it turns out her— ladder. maybe. but it turns out her rhhe— ladder. maybe. but it turns out her we he— ladder. maybe. but it turns out that this is what's— :: maybe. but it turns out that this is what's quite arehheh— that this is what's quite arabian-and- that this is what's quite arabian and goats that this is what's quite- arabian-and goats were that this is what's quite- araivery-and goats were that this is what's quite araivery successfuli goats were the very successful one. they hhey—

the very successful one. they hhey-rhe— the very successful one. they they-this-issue . the very successful one. they. they-this-issue like they solved this food issue like whh— they solved this food issue like whrh very— they solved this food issue like whrh wery ewhehy— they solved this food issue like with very quickly but six seconds. but- with very quickly but six seconds. 3 , seconds. but guess what? gazelles took five minutes. those stupid gazelles . stupid. those stupid gazelles. stupid. and the those stupid gazelles. stupid. and he rhhhe— those stupid gazelles. stupid. and the thing is,— those stupid gazelles. stupid. and the thing is, nick,- r: 3 stupid. and the thing is, nick, this hen-r— and the thing is, nick, this isn't surprising,— and the thing is, nick, this isn't surprising, is it, that eeewe— isn't surprising, is it, that heewe whe— isn't surprising, is it, that people who who are think outside the people who who are think outside rhe hex— people who who are think outside he he rhhhh— people who who are think outside the box think a— people who who are think outside the box think a bit— people who who are think outside the box think a bit differently, rhet— the box think a bit differently, rher hhey-re— the box think a bit differently, that they're smarter? nana, i wer— that they're smarter? nana, i weeh-r—h- that they're smarter? nana, ii weeh-r—h wasn't referring to you. i was. wew— wasn't referring to you. i was. you definitely— wasn't referring to you. i was. you definitely got the food. of course. - always _ you definitely got the food. of course. .always thought- you definitely got the food. of course. - always thought ofl course. i've always thought of myself as the goat of independent it independent thought. and it turns it is. it's the turns out it is. it's the arabian goats. arabian camels and goats. technically camel technically i'm the camel because had an because the arabian camel had an 86% success for the 86% success rate. 69% for the arabian goat. 86% success rate. 69% for the arabian goat . and of course, it arabian goat. and of course, it makes people me makes sense. people like me against against the against lockdowns, against the dodgy you all took dodgy jabs that you all took against mask. andrew against the face mask. andrew just you you get just said that you you get killed get we killed off, though. we get we may, also are innovators may, but we also are innovators and you need us. yeah, but, new— and you need us. yeah, but, wheh rhere-e— and you need us. yeah, but, nick, there's a— and you need us. yeah, but, nick, there's a lot- and you need us. yeah, but, nick, there's a lot of- ittr: : yeah, but, nick, there's a lot of people whe— nick, there's a lot of people whe-hhhe— nick, there's a lot of people whe-hhhe yew. - nick, there's a lot of people who-like you. a- nick, there's a lot of people who like you. a lot of who think like you. a lot of people— who think like you. a lot of eeeewe-rhhhh- who think like you. a lot of people think you who think like you. a lot of. people-think-you and people who think like you and ther— people who think like you and her—heew- just respond. no, but look, a&e rheee—e- just respond. no, but look, a&e rheee—e here- just respond. no, but look, a&e those—a herd like| those embedded in a herd like you— those embedded in a herd like you guys— those embedded in a herd like yew owye wee— those embedded in a herd like you guys were more likely to there— you guys were more likely to ignore something the ignore something out of the winery— ordinary and just follow the hehwhewr— ordinary and just follow the behaviour those around them. behaviour of those around them. are— behaviour of those around them. are-eerewere— behaviour of those around them. and-dangerous because- behaviour of those around them. and-dangerous because it. and that's dangerous because it might the right thing. might not be the right thing. being heard being a contrarian can be heard whhe—eehhe- being a contrarian can be heard whhe—eehhe h. i like if everyone's doing it. rh— like if everyone's doing it. hee—rh- like if everyone's doing it. . i'm—i'm sometimes like if everyone's doing it. - i'm—i'm sometimes not i'm not though i'm sometimes not concerned. got an

concerned. so have you got an eehhheh— concerned. so have you got an whheh-he— concerned. so have you got an ehhhheh-he ee— concerned. so have you got an opinion-no one else- so have you got an opinion no one else has? opinion that no one else has? weeee— opinion that no one else has? weeee — opinion that no one else has? weeee whhe— opinion that no one else has? loads like what?— opinion that no one else has? loads , loads like what? literally no one else, including your twitter followers, allowed one else, including your twitter folvote?s, allowed one else, including your twitter folvote?s, okay, allowed one else, including your twitter folvote?s, okay, movetd to vote? no. okay, let's move on now. telegram prince harry in bother fault. bother this time. not his fault. nick what's harry? oh, yes. bother this time. not his fault. nick what's harry? oh, yes . sex nick what's harry? oh, yes. sex toy nick what's harry? oh, yes. sex rey rhrrh — nick what's harry? oh, yes. sex hey the wreeeee— tr rt.

star. now, is it rude to continue sitting seat that continue sitting in a seat that someone else has booked? yeah, of not. i mean, of course not. i mean, look, i er— of course not. i mean, look, i mean, of course— of course not. i mean, look, i mean, of course it— of course not. i mean, look, i mean, of course it is. bloke and hhehe— mean, of course it is. bloke and hhehe h— mean, of course it is. bloke and hhehe h whhe— mean, of course it is. bloke and bloke i like. why— mean, of course it is. bloke and bloke i like. why did you say herr— bloke i like. why did you say heh hhehe— bloke i like. why did you say matt bloke confronts woman ehhhhe— matt bloke confronts woman sitting-booked- matt bloke confronts woman sitting booked seat . sitting in a booked train seat. hh— sitting in a booked train seat. her—ehe- sitting in a booked train seat. but she shouldn't but people say she shouldn't rhewelrhhe— but people say she shouldn't move this person boris becker move so this person boris becker not move so this person boris becker her-her— move so this person boris becker her-rher .— move so this person boris becker not-that . boris— move so this person boris becker not that . boris becker you'd not not that. boris becker you'd hr— not not that. boris becker you'd h we.— not not that. boris becker you'd move it up. yeah.— not not that. boris becker you'd move it up. yeah. came up said oh move it up. yeah. came up said eh yee— move it up. yeah. came up said eh ye hh— move it up. yeah. came up said eh ye hh rhy— move it up. yeah. came up said oh you're in my seat. and she whhe— oh you're in my seat. and she the he— oh you're in my seat. and she was like no. oh— oh you're in my seat. and she was like no. oh right. and then rheh— was like no. oh right. and then rheh ehe— was like no. oh right. and then rheh ehe eer— was like no. oh right. and then then she got up. _ was like no. oh right. and then then she got up. ' was like no. oh right. and then then she got up. . tt r: then she got up. a woman said, no, you shouldn't move. you don't have move. you should don't have to move. you should move. are rules. that's move. there are rules. that's the point . move. there are rules. that's rhe-eehhr . he- move. there are rules. that's the-point . it's booked.| the whole point. it's booked. he— the whole point. it's booked. h-e-yew-we— it's also if you've booked a eew— it's also if you've booked a eeer ehe— it's also if you've booked a seat and-don't- it's also if you've booked a seat and don't move and you seat and they don't move and you sit seat and they don't move and you eh—ehee-e— seat and they don't move and you eh—ehee-e yew- sit in someone else's, you erehehhy— sit in someone else's, you erehehnyhh— sit in someone else's, you probably in someone else's probably sat in someone else's eew— probably sat in someone else's eeh-hhey— probably sat in someone else's eeh-hhey eer- probably sat in someone else's seat they get you. seat and then they get you. he— seat and then they get you. he the— seat and then they get you. he the e— seat and then they get you. it's like a domino— seat and then they get you. . . r:itrt t it's it's like a domino effect. it's very, very complicated.- . . r:itrt t it's very, very complicated. and i wheh— very, very complicated. and i wheh-rhe— very, very complicated. and i wish-the video- very, very complicated. and i wish the video because wish we had the video because the wish we had the video because ttie—gutt- the video depicts the guy comes up the video depicts the guy comes wre—eew- the video depicts the guy comes wre—eeh hoe. i up and says, this is seat 103. hhhe— up and says, this is seat 103. hhhe he— up and says, this is seat 103. hhhe he rhy— up and says, this is seat 103. this is my seat.— up and says, this is seat 103. this is my seat. and she goes, or..— this is my seat. and she goes, eh. eeh-r— this is my seat. and she goes, eh. eeh-r yew— this is my seat. and she goes, oh, can't you .sit- this is my seat. and she goes, oh, can't you sit over oh, can't you just sit over rheree— oh, can't you just sit over there?-then- oh, can't you just sit over there?-then she- oh, can't you just sit over there? then she buckles and there? but then she buckles and eeee— there? but then she buckles and wee—wew.- there? but then she buckles and eeee—wery. hhel does move. but it's very. the eweerheh— does move. but it's very. the eweerheh-vee- does move. but it's very. the question yes, you've question is now, yes, you've heehee— question is now, yes, you've heehee rher— question is now, yes, you've booked that seat, so you should be booked that seat, so you should he-re— booked that seat, so you should he-re hwe— booked that seat, so you should be-to have-but- booked that seat, so you should be-to have-but it. be allowed to have it. but it weeke— be allowed to have it. but it heehe hhhe— be allowed to have it. but it looks like-might- be allowed to have it. but it- looks like-might-next be allowed to have it. but it- lo

a friend, you could and they're wereeerweeh— a friend, you could and they're unreserved-could- a friend, you could and they're. unreserved.-could-turns unreserved. you could just turns it conundrum. it into a big moral conundrum. you just take you could it into a big moral conundrum. you do just take you could it into a big moral conundrum. you do that. ;t take you could it into a big moral conundrum. you do that. andie you could it into a big moral conundrum. you do that. and it you could it into a big moral conundrum. you do that. and it wasn'tjld just do that. and it wasn't ereer— just do that. and it wasn't clear—other. just do that. and it wasn't- clear_other seats clear if there were other seats ehe—hhh- clear if there were other seatsj ehe—her and it wasn't clear if that was her— and it wasn't clear if that was her rrhehe. — and it wasn't clear if that was her friend. so— and it wasn't clear if that was her friend. so probably she ehewhe— her friend. so probably she should have— her friend. so probably she should have given the should have just given up the eew— seat because he did book it. wew.— seat because he did book it. www ther— seat because he did book it. well, then what?— seat because he did book it. well, then what? well,- seat because he did book it. well, then what? well, look, we're going solve this. we're not going to solve this. a real situation. we'll we're not going to solve this. a real a situation. we'll we're not going to solve this. a real a look situation. we'll we're not going to solve this. a real a look at situation. we'll we're not going to solve this. a real a look at siwideot. we'll we're not going to solve this. a real a look at sitvideo online. have a look at the video online and decision on. okay. and make a decision on. okay. well, is nearly over, and make a decision on. okay. well, do is nearly over, and make a decision on. okay. well, do haveis nearly over, and make a decision on. okay. well, do have timeirly over, and make a decision on. okay. well, do have time just)ver, and make a decision on. okay. well, do have time just to r, and make a decision on. okay. well, do have time just to have but we do have time just to have another at thursday's another quick look at thursday's front pages, the mail front pages, the daily mail is leading real leading with. is this the real reason walked out? leading with. is this the real reastelegraph walked out? leading with. is this the real reastelegraph also walked out? leading with. is this the real reastelegraph also runs.ked out? leading with. is this the real reastelegraph also runs.ked lthe the telegraph also runs with the sturgeon face sturgeon story. police face questions over possible delay to arrest home. arrest over sturgeon's home. the guardian. have guardian. they have an investigation into the royal family took . family revealed royals took. £1.2 billion in private income from estates. the financial times ukraine ready for crimea talks with kremlin if counter—offensive succeeds, the mirror has you can end this cruelty. now what's stopping you and the star a silly story about how we don't need a brain. after all those were thursday's front pages. that is all we've got time for. thanks ever so much to my guests, howie and nick my guests, josh howie and nick dixon join me again tomorrow, where i'll be joined by josh and louis shaffer. remember, if

louis shaffer. and remember, if you're watching the 5 am, repeat of this show, stay tuned because the breakfast is because the breakfast show is just after the .

nicola sturgeon vows to fully cooperate with investigators after her husband faced 11 hours of questioning by police. us. good morning . it's 6:00 on good morning. it's 6:00 on thursday, the 6th of april. this is breakfast on gb news with martin daubney and ellie costello. and here's what's heeehhe— costello. and here's what's heeehhe rhe— costello. and here's what's leading the news- and here's what's leading the news this morning. wheehe— leading the news this morning. nicola sturgeon— leading the news this morning. nicola sturgeon husband, peter whheh.— nicola sturgeon husband, peter hwrrehh. hee— nicola sturgeon husband, peter murrell, has been— nicola sturgeon husband, peter murrell, has been released eehehhe— murrell, has been released pending further investigation he— pending further investigation here he— pending further investigation into the snp's— pending further investigation into the snp's finances. after a day— into the snp's finances. after a eey er— into the snp's finances. after a

day of questioning. a spokesperson for the