gb news. good morning welcome to the point on gb news with me andrew pierce and bev turner this morning. it is thursday, of course, a conservative mp who offered to leak confidential policy documents and lobby ministers on behalf of gambling investors has had the party whip suspended . scott benson is the suspended. scott benson is the mp for blackpool . he was filmed mp for blackpool. he was filmed by the times offering to help gambling industry lobbyists in exchange for financial reward . exchange for financial reward. we'll explain why this is important. we certainly we'll explain why this is important . we certainly will. important. we certainly will. and— important. we certainly will. and the— important. we certainly will. and the prime— we certainly will. and the prime minister is defending— and the prime minister is defending move to house defending the move to house those— defending the move to house those-on— defending the move to house those-on that- defending the move to house those on that barge off those migrants on that barge off the-coast.— those migrants on that barge off the coast. remember we the dorset coast. remember we spoke—mp- spoke to local tory mp yesterday. — yesterday. hadn't even been consulted— yesterday. hadn't even been consulted-the- yesterday. hadn't even been consulted the plan . consulted about the plan. also hundreds— consulted about the plan. also hundreds of— consulted about the plan. also hundreds of police— consulted about the plan. also hundreds of police officers are expected to be removed from the met police as commissioner sir mark rowley admits in a letter

that there are officers who just shouldn't in the force. do shouldn't be in the force. do you think the met is truly able to investigate and reform itself ? aslef to investigate and reform itself .7 aslef and their building in ? aslef and their building in dover— ? aslef and their building in dover temporary— 7’ aslef and their building in dover temporary marquees to check— dover temporary marquees to check passports— dover temporary marquees to check passports ._ dover temporary marquees to check passports . they're check passports. they're expecting— check passports. they're expecting even more travel chaos coming— expecting even more travel chaos coming up.— expecting even more travel chaos coming up. kw...— expecting even more travel chaos coming up. kwasi. it's easter after— coming up. kwasi. it's easter after an. — coming up. kwasi. it's easter after all. that's— coming up. kwasi. it's easter after all. ” g coming up. kwasi. it's easter after all. g after all. that's right. so. so we will be talking about that as we will be talking about that as we look forward to the bank houday we look forward to the bank holiday weekend and what it might mean for your travel. we're going to have simon calder to as well. he's to talking us as well. he's always brilliant. your always brilliant. email us your thoughts, gbviews@gbnews.uk uk. but of all, here your but first of all, here is your news jones . good news with rhiannon jones. good morning. it's 931. your top stories— morning. it's 931. your top stories from _ morning. it's 931. your top stories from the- morning. it's 931. your top stories from the gb- g it's 931. your top stories from the gb newsroom counter—terrorism _ stories from the gb newsroom counter—terrorism officers along wm.— counter—terrorism officers along with those— counter—terrorism officers along with those who— counter—terrorism officers along with those who tackle serious organised— with those who tackle serious organised crime,— with those who tackle serious organised crime, have been drafted— organised crime, have been drafted dd— organised crime, have been drafted in to— organised crime, have been drafted in to help clean up the med— drafted in to help clean up the med ponde— drafted in to help clean up the met police workforce . ice met police workforce. ice commissioner— met police workforce. ice commissioner sir mark rowley

dedeves— commissioner sir mark rowley believes there— commissioner sir mark rowley believes there are hundreds of corrupt— believes there are hundreds of corrupt officers— believes there are hundreds of corrupt officers who shouldn't be dd— corrupt officers who shouldn't be in the — corrupt officers who shouldn't be be the job — corrupt officers who shouldn't be in the job and— corrupt officers who shouldn't be in the job and he wants to weed— be in the job and he wants to weed bem— be in the job and he wants to weed them out— be in the job and he wants to weed them out of— be in the job and he wants to weed them out of more than a thousand— weed them out of more than a thousand records.— weed them out of more than a thousand records. nearly 700 wid— thousand records. nearly 700 cases will be _ thousand records. nearly 700 cases will be reassigned west, ebb— cases will be reassigned west, wbb deeded— cases will be reassigned west, with almost 200— cases will be reassigned west, with almost 200 referred to breed— with almost 200 referred to breed deb— with almost 200 referred to formal risk management or deeded— formal risk management or vebbee be— formal risk management or veddeg be de— formal risk management or vetting in an update to the home secretary,— vetting in an update to the home secretary, suella_ vetting in an update to the home secretary, suella braverman. the figures— secretary, suella braverman. the figures dee— secretary, suella braverman. the figures also reveal— secretary, suella braverman. the figures also reveal 161 met ebbeere— figures also reveal 161 met officers have— figures also reveal 161 met officers have criminal convictions- officers have criminal convictions .- officers have criminal convictions . former scottish convictions. former scottish dred— convictions. former scottish first minister— convictions. former scottish first minister nicola sturgeon bee— first minister nicola sturgeon bee bddded— first minister nicola sturgeon has pulled out— first minister nicola sturgeon has pulled out of a climate ebeeee— has pulled out of a climate change event— has pulled out of a climate change event this evening after her change event this evening after ber bdebdnd— change event this evening after her husband was— change event this evening after her husband was released from custody— her husband was released from custody without— her husband was released from custody without charge . the home custody without charge. the home of be. — custody without charge. the home of be. sturgeon— custody without charge. the home of ms. sturgeon and the former sbb— of ms. sturgeon and the former sbb ebdef— of ms. sturgeon and the former snp chief executive remains cordoned— snp chief executive remains cordoned off— snp chief executive remains cordoned off pending further investigation— cordoned off pending further investigation ._ cordoned off pending further investigation . an peter murrell investigation. an peter murrell deeded— investigation. an peter murrell was arrested as— investigation. an peter murrell was arrested as part of a probe bee— was arrested as part of a probe be we— was arrested as part of a probe into snp finances,— was arrested as part of a probe into snp finances, including demoed— into snp finances, including £600,000 set— into snp finances, including £600,000 set aside for scotland's— £600,000 set aside for scotland's independence eempdgee— scotland's independence campaign. mr. mcginn insists she had campaign. mr. mcginn insists she bed ne— campaign. mr. mcginn insists she bed be bder— campaign. mr. mcginn insists she had no prior knowledge of police plans— had no prior knowledge of police bddee er— had no prior knowledge of police plans or intentions— had no prior knowledge of police plans or intentions ahead of her resignation— plans or intentions ahead of her resignation b— plans or intentions ahead of her resignation in february . sir

resignation in february. sir beb— resignation in february. sir keir starmer_ resignation in february. sir keir starmer has promised to introduce— keir starmer has promised to introduce specialist rape courts if introduce specialist rape courts b bdbedr— introduce specialist rape courts if labour wins— introduce specialist rape courts if labour wins the— introduce specialist rape courts if labour wins the next election . it if labour wins the next election . b eemee— if labour wins the next election . it comes amid— if labour wins the next election . it comes amid a— if labour wins the next election . it comes amid a record backlog in . it comes amid a record backlog b be— . it comes amid a record backlog b be eedb— . it comes amid a record backlog in the courts, which— . it comes amid a record backlog in the courts, which sees debbee— in the courts, which sees victims face— in the courts, which sees victims face an - in the courts, which sees victims face an average three year— victims face an average three year web— victims face an average three year web fee— victims face an average three year wait for justice. this eevemmeee— year wait for justice. this government analysis shows the edmrbe— government analysis shows the be er— government analysis shows the edmerb er rebe— government analysis shows the number of rape survivors dreeeme— number of rape survivors dropping their cases has more mee— dropping their cases has more than doubled— dropping their cases has more than doubled since 2015. sir beb— than doubled since 2015. sir beb edd— than doubled since 2015. sir keir will repeat— than doubled since 2015. sir keir will repeat his promise to babe— keir will repeat his promise to halve levels— keir will repeat his promise to halve levels of— keir will repeat his promise to halve levels of violence against women and girls— halve levels of violence against women and girls later when he meere— women and girls later when he meere ebb— women and girls later when he meets with charities supporting deeme— meets with charities supporting deems b— meets with charities supporting victims in scunthorpe in north lincolnshire_ victims in scunthorpe in north lincolnshire for— victims in scunthorpe in north lincolnshire for and the us ereddeer— lincolnshire for and the us president has— lincolnshire for and the us president has accepted an invite bem— president has accepted an invite bem ree— president has accepted an invite bem rbe king— president has accepted an invite from the king for— president has accepted an invite from the king for a state visit to from the king for a state visit be me— from the king for a state visit be me be— from the king for a state visit be me be .— from the king for a state visit to the uk . the— from the king for a state visit to the uk . the white house says to the uk. the white house says joe to the uk. the white house says ree erdee— to the uk. the white house says ree erdee bed— to the uk. the white house says joe biden had a— to the uk. the white house says joe biden had a very friendly eber— joe biden had a very friendly eber ebb— joe biden had a very friendly chat with king— joe biden had a very friendly chat with king charles over the bee — chat with king charles over the bee ree— chat with king charles over the phone. the president's due to deb— phone. the president's due to visit northern— phone. the president's due to visit northern ireland and the beedbbe— visit northern ireland and the beedbbe merr— visit northern ireland and the republic next week but won't erreed— republic next week but won't erreed ree— republic next week but won't attend the coronation in may. bed— attend the coronation in may. be-u be— attend the coronation in may. he'll be represented instead by his he'll be represented instead by me rebe— he'll be represented instead by me wbe, db— he'll be represented instead by his wife, jill torfaen on dab+ redre— his wife, jill torfaen on dab+ redre ded— his wife, jill torfaen on dab+ radio and on— his wife, jill torfaen on dab+ radio and on tune— his wife, jill torfaen on dab+ radio and on tune in. this is gb news. — radio and on tune in. this is gb news. bew— radio and on tune in. this is gb news. new b-e— radio and on tune in. this is gb news. now it's back to andrew

ded— news. now it's back to andrew and .— and.bev ivewl and.bev very good morning. we'll be talking about travel all over the want to what the weekend. i want to know what you're planning this weekend as it's long easter it's the lovely long easter break. good luck if you're going in break. good luck if you're going be e— break. good luck if you're going in a car because— good luck if you're going in a car because you'll be stuck in a car because you'll be stuck b e— in a car because you'll be stuck b e babb— in a car because you'll be stuck in a traffic jam— in a car because you'll be stuck in a traffic jam for— in a car because you'll be stuck in a traffic jam for hours. rem.— in a traffic jam for hours. verb. deed— in a traffic jam for hours. yeah, good luck- in a traffic jam for hours. yeah, good luck if- in a traffic jam for hours. yeah, good luck if you're going on the train i was this on the train like i was this morning. extortionately expensive. absolutely. packs nothing views at nothing is working. gb views at gbnews.uk email to us gbnews.uk is the email to let us know stories now . first of know your stories now. first of all, mp scott all, conservative mp scott benton. had party whip benton. he's had the party whip suspended being filmed suspended after being filmed offering help gambling offering to help gambling industry in exchange industry lobbyists in exchange for financial reward. it an for financial reward. it was an undercover sting the times, undercover sting by the times, which he ready which revealed he was ready to leak market sensitive information an investment information to an investment fund and asked parliamentary questions that breaks every single lobbying rule . so with us single lobbying rule. so with us this morning is political commentator pierce pottinger . commentator pierce pottinger. good morning, pierce . andrew and good morning, pierce. andrew and i were discussing this this morning . why would this be an mp

morning. why would this be an mp that not a lot of people have heard of.7 scott benson, fairly new mp . it's got quite a small new mp. it's got quite a small majority in blackpool . i'm going majority in blackpool. i'm going to check it. why would it be such big deal to the public to such a big deal to the public to make a front page splash? well, i think if indeed he said all the things he said, it's claimed, he said some aspects of what he said were really very serious indeed. and one embedd— serious indeed. and one particular is— serious indeed. and one particular is he- and one particular is he offered to reede— particular is he offered to release a 40,— particular is he offered to release a 40, 48 hours ahead, at rmebedm— release a 40, 48 hours ahead, at ,— release a 40, 48 hours ahead, at , ree— release a 40, 48 hours ahead, at minimum , the gambling commission minimum, the gambling commission reeerr— minimum, the gambling commission reeerr re— minimum, the gambling commission reeerr re eeeede— minimum, the gambling commission report to people who— minimum, the gambling commission report to people who were posing as report to people who were posing ee rereedere— report to people who were posing as investors in— report to people who were posing as investors in the— report to people who were posing as investors in the gambling reddedrr— as investors in the gambling reddedrr . — as investors in the gambling industry. now,— as investors in the gambling industry. now, as- as investors in the gambling industry. bibed as investors in the gambling industry. bribd industry. now, as the major gambling companies are all listed, quoted , public companies listed, quoted, public companies , their share price would have been enormously affected by what is said in the gambling commission because people have been waiting for this report for a very long time and to volunteer to do something like this breaks so many rules given he was also the chairman of the

parliamentary select committee on gaming. it's i'm afraid his career is over. i— on gaming. it's i'm afraid his career is over. i mean,- cr?” r; it's i'm afraid his career is over. i mean, he cir?“ r; it's i'm afraid his career is over. i mean, he seems bedd— career is over. i mean, he seems bedd beed— career is over. i mean, he seems bedd beed ee— career is over. i mean, he seems bedd beed ee bre— career is over. i mean, he seems hell bent on his self— hell bent on his self destruction. - hell bent on his self destruction. if you pardon the bee. — destruction. if you pardon the bee. seer— destruction. if you pardon the pun. sorry about— destruction. if you pardon the pun. sorry about that. but i dee— pun. sorry about that. but i mean, the fact— pun. sorry about that. but i mean, the fact is he's got a med-emr,— mean, the fact is he's got a med-emr, r— mean, the fact is he's got a majority, i think— mean, the fact is he's got a majority, i think of 3000 in bdeebeeed— majority, i think of 3000 in blackpool south . it will blackpool south. it will deerddebdr— blackpool south. it will inevitably mean a by—election, redee— inevitably mean a by—election, rrbdeb de— inevitably mean a by—election, rrbdeb de eed— inevitably mean a by—election, which is not what— inevitably mean a by—election, which is not what rishi sunak redd— which is not what rishi sunak rreddd bre— which is not what rishi sunak would like at— which is not what rishi sunak would like at this time. now of dee— would like at this time. now of course, the labour— would like at this time. now of course, the labour party are rerr— course, the labour party are rerr eeder— course, the labour party are rerr eddeb de— course, the labour party are very quick to jump on this, but deed— very quick to jump on this, but dee-d dereed— very quick to jump on this, but don't forget the _ very quick to jump on this, but don't forget the labour party rere— don't forget the labour party rdre meedr— don't forget the labour party mps mostly paid and sponsored by the mps mostly paid and sponsored by dbe drede— mps mostly paid and sponsored by the trade unions— mps mostly paid and sponsored by the trade unions ._ mps mostly paid and sponsored by the trade unions. so mps mostly paid and sponsored by the trade unions . so they're at the trade unions. so they're at dbeb— the trade unions. so they're at dbeb beek— the trade unions. so they're at their beck and— the trade unions. so they're at their beck and call. they're bedd— their beck and call. they're paid servants— their beck and call. they're paid servants of— their beck and call. they're paid servants of a of a breeder— paid servants of a of a particular group which i eereeeeddr— particular group which i personally think is wrong . so personally think is wrong. so it's personally think is wrong. so be rerr— personally think is wrong. so be rerr bard— personally think is wrong. so it's very hard for— personally think is wrong. so it's very hard for them to erdddedee— it's very hard for them to criticise mps— it's very hard for them to criticise mps taking on extra debe— criticise mps taking on extra r-ebe der— criticise mps taking on extra jobs der mere— criticise mps taking on extra jobs for more money. but when red-re— jobs for more money. but when red-re remedy— jobs for more money. but when you're actually volunteering to breed— you're actually volunteering to breed redee— you're actually volunteering to break rules in— you're actually volunteering to break rules in such a really deedeeeeed— break rules in such a really unpleasant way,— break rules in such a really unpleasant way, it's his career, in unpleasant way, it's his career, be my— unpleasant way, it's his career, be my rderr— unpleasant way, it's his career, be my de— unpleasant way, it's his career, be my de de— unpleasant way, it's his career, in my view is, is over. bribed in my view is, is over. now you brdde— in my view is, is over. now you brdde b— in my view is, is over. now you invite in your public affairs

days some of the leading city companies. yes. and many gaming eememeee — companies. yes. and many gaming companies. exactly— companies. yes. and many gaming companies. exactly ._ companies. yes. and many gaming companies. exactly . and- i yes. and many gaming companies. xecwcq i companies. exactly. and insider trading is it's effectively you can go to prison for it. you can. but i mean , you- 'c.f�* grir dirir“ c you can. but i mean , you know, can. but i mean, you know, deed-e— can. but i mean, you know, deed-e rer— can. but i mean, you know, that's why obviously we all eeremmeed— that's why obviously we all government reports that are eeeedddre— government reports that are sensitive to _ government reports that are sensitive to industry and share erdeee— sensitive to industry and share erdeee re— sensitive to industry and share erdeee rerr— sensitive to industry and share prices are very strictly guarded . ded— prices are very strictly guarded . ded ed— prices are very strictly guarded . and of course,— prices are very strictly guarded . and of course, these days, dbdeee— . and of course, these days, dedeee deed— . and of course, these days, things tend to— . and of course, these days, things tend to leak more than eemd— things tend to leak more than eemd .— things tend to leak more than eerred . bed— things tend to leak more than normal. but to— things tend to leak more than normal. but to leak a report of dere— normal. but to leak a report of this magnitude— normal. but to leak a report of this magnitude ,_ normal. but to leak a report of this magnitude , 48 hours in this magnitude, 48 hours in edree— this magnitude, 48 hours in edrree de— this magnitude, 48 hours in advance is really extra erddeerr. — advance is really extra ordinary. and however naive . and ordinary. and however naive. and i ordinary. and however naive. and r debr— ordinary. and however naive. and r dbdeb eee— ordinary. and however naive. and rdbdeb ed— ordinary. and however naive. and i think one of the— ordinary. and however naive. and i think one of the problems is dbe— i think one of the problems is dbe eddbre— i think one of the problems is the calibre of— i think one of the problems is the calibre of mps these days is red— the calibre of mps these days is rerr derr— the calibre of mps these days is rerr derr eed— the calibre of mps these days is rerr derr and r— the calibre of mps these days is very low and i think they need to very low and i think they need de eed— very low and i think they need de eed dbe— very low and i think they need to set the bar— very low and i think they need to set the bar a— very low and i think they need to set the bar a lot higher beeee— to set the bar a lot higher because this— to set the bar a lot higher because this chap was was a primary— because this chap was was a erdmerr eebeed— because this chap was was a primary school teacher briefly . primary school teacher briefly. he primary school teacher briefly. be eed— primary school teacher briefly. be eed deed— primary school teacher briefly. he not that there's anything rrreee— he not that there's anything rrreee rrddb— he not that there's anything wrong with that, but that's all he wrong with that, but that's all be dd.— wrong with that, but that's all be ddd. emer— wrong with that, but that's all he did. other than be a professional— he did. other than be a professional politician as a eedeeddder— professional politician as a councillor and— professional politician as a councillor and then mp and, and so councillor and then mp and, and ee eddee— councillor and then mp and, and ee eddee eer— councillor and then mp and, and so often now we're— councillor and then mp and, and so often now we're getting this bedded— so often now we're getting this political class— so often now we're getting this political class of,— so often now we're getting this

political class of, of government people rather than beede— government people rather than beeder-bere— government people rather than people who've done something and beeembe— people who've done something and beeembe dubbe— people who've done something and becoming public servants . �*vbd cc becoming public servants. will edredr— becoming public servants. will edredr be— becoming public servants. will edredr be me— becoming public servants. will naivety be his defence and is there any defence in that? surely he would know that this was going to be against the rules. he can't defend himself beeee— rules. he can't defend himself because there— rules. he can't defend himself because there have— he can't defend himself because there have been so many edbee— because there have been so many edbee. rrre— because there have been so many stings. mps should— because there have been so many stings. mps should be on on dbeb— stings. mps should be on on dbeb ederd— stings. mps should be on on dbeb ederd .— stings. mps should be on on their guard . and— stings. mps should be on on their guard . and now major their guard. and now major eemeeedee— their guard. and now major companies have given up because eerrrer— companies have given up because eerrrer deer-re— companies have given up because anyway they've changed the rules ebee— anyway they've changed the rules bree— anyway they've changed the rules since owen paterson in so major eemeeedee— since owen paterson in so major eemeeedee deed— since owen paterson in so major companies don't take on mps in the companies don't take on mps in dbe rer— companies don't take on mps in dbe rrer deer— companies don't take on mps in the way they used— companies don't take on mps in the way they used to because bere-e— the way they used to because dbere-e e— the way they used to because dbere-e e be— the way they used to because there's a bit of— the way they used to because there's a bit of a— the way they used to because there's a bit of a bad smell for dbe— there's a bit of a bad smell for dbe bed— there's a bit of a bad smell for dbe bed ed— there's a bit of a bad smell for the kind of people— there's a bit of a bad smell for the kind of people coming to mps . red— the kind of people coming to mps . red reed— the kind of people coming to mps . red rreed de— the kind of people coming to mps . you want to be— the kind of people coming to mps . you want to be immediately edeededede— . you want to be immediately suspicious of. _ . you want to be immediately suspicious of. “riiri c suspicious of. there's a bit of a bad smell about having an mp on books of a these on the books of a company these days. yes, shareholders don't dbe— days. yes, shareholders don't bre-meed— days. yes, shareholders don't like-most most- : yes, shareholders don't like most most companies like it and most most companies go like it and most most companies 90 ed— like it and most most companies 90 ed ed— like it and most most companies 90 ed ed dbeb— like it and most most companies go out of their way— like it and most most companies go out of their way to be deemed— go out of their way to be politically neutral, or least politically neutral, or at least eeeeer— politically neutral, or at least eeeeerlbe. — politically neutral, or at least eeeeerlbe. ded— politically neutral, or at least appear be. and in my appear to be. and in my eeerdeeee— appear to be. and in my experience in- appear to be. and in my experience in certainly in the beed— experience in certainly in the reed ,— experience in certainly in the reed , rrbee— experience in certainly in the past, when companies have paid rrre— past, when companies have paid rrre ee— past, when companies have paid mps as consultants, they've drrere— mps as consultants, they've

drrere beee— mps as consultants, they've always been very disappointed at rrbed— always been very disappointed at rrbed dber-re— always been very disappointed at rrbed deer-re eed— always been very disappointed at what they've got in return for bree— what they've got in return for deree eme— what they've got in return for deree ed— what they've got in return for large sums of money. “g large sums of money. talking of mpsr_ large sums of money. talking of mps, nicola sturgeon and scottish first minister, until a week ago pulled out of a major speech tonight on climate change when she stood down or announced she was standing down. we talked on this program, piers. yeah as a very proud scot, you are this is all to do with the financial investigation into the snp. it now seems that's exactly why she was. i mean did was. yes. i mean i did i remember saying it on this program was very program that i was very suspicious of the reason she gave for standing down. and now it would gave for standing down. and now dd rredd eeeeer— gave for standing down. and now it would appear obvious- g : “g : and now it would appear obvious what is going— it would appear obvious what is eemd — it would appear obvious what is eemd oe— it would appear obvious what is going on. of course now they're debe— going on. of course now they're drrbe de— going on. of course now they're drrbe de dere— going on. of course now they're trying to turn the— going on. of course now they're trying to turn the emphasis on the trying to turn the emphasis on dbe policer— trying to turn the emphasis on the police, which— trying to turn the emphasis on the police, which is absurd rm..— the police, which is absurd because what— the police, which is absurd because what they actually want to because what they actually want de be — because what they actually want de be debe — because what they actually want de be debe de— because what they actually want to be doing is looking at the eeddd— to be doing is looking at the actual crimes— to be doing is looking at the actual crimes that may have been eemmddded— actual crimes that may have been eemmddded .— actual crimes that may have been committed . the— actual crimes that may have been committed . the rumour in committed. the rumour in seeddeed— committed. the rumour in scotland this— committed. the rumour in scotland this morning is that bere— scotland this morning is that dbere re— scotland this morning is that there are other— scotland this morning is that there are other arrests soon to redder— there are other arrests soon to dedderr eed— there are other arrests soon to dedderr eed r— there are other arrests soon to follow and i must— there are other arrests soon to follow and i must admit the beddee— follow and i must admit the police certainly— follow and i must admit the police certainly put on a show. bdde-d— police certainly put on a show. bdde-d ber— police certainly put on a show. didn't they tent— police certainly put on a show. didn't they tent it— police certainly put on a show. didn't they tent it looks like a de— didn't they tent it looks like a scene to a barbecue . g scene to a barbecue. i thought deed— scene to a barbecue. i thought dbed r— scene to a barbecue. i thought that i was saying it looks like

a scene from line of duty. that's right. is there a body buned that's right. is there a body buried under the patio? i mean, they certainly their point they certainly made their point . and course, sturgeon and . and of course, sturgeon and bed— . and of course, sturgeon and merd ddrbe— . and of course, sturgeon and merd brbe .— and of course, sturgeon and moral living . uddingston, the moral living. uddingston, the beme— moral living. uddingston, the beme ed— moral living. uddingston, the beme ed dbe— moral living. uddingston, the home of the tunnock's caramel eeder— home of the tunnock's caramel rreder rrr— home of the tunnock's caramel wafer. my favourite scottish eeedeeddee — wafer. my favourite scottish eeedeeddee .— wafer. my favourite scottish confection . but— wafer. my favourite scottish confection . but i mean the it confection. but i mean the it was extraordinary . and to see was extraordinary. and to see dbem — was extraordinary. and to see dbem deeded— was extraordinary. and to see them looking in— was extraordinary. and to see them looking in dustbins and, eed— them looking in dustbins and, and examining— them looking in dustbins and, and examining the barbecue, i , b,— and examining the barbecue, i , b, b— and examining the barbecue, i mean , if, if anyone was hiding mean, if, if anyone was hiding eerdebd— mean, if, if anyone was hiding anythingr red— mean, if, if anyone was hiding anything, you think they'd have deee— anything, you think they'd have deee dd— anything, you think they'd have deee dd e— anything, you think they'd have deee dd e deee— anything, you think they'd have done it a long time ago and not erebebdr— done it a long time ago and not erebebdr ee— done it a long time ago and not probably on their— done it a long time ago and not probably on their own premises eed— probably on their own premises eed dd-e— probably on their own premises eed dd-e dd— probably on their own premises and it's all to— probably on their own premises and it's all to do— probably on their own premises and it's all to do with £600,000 bed— and it's all to do with £600,000 dbed rrbere— and it's all to do with £600,000 dbed rrbere dd— and it's all to do with £600,000 that where it got— and it's all to do with £600,000 that where it got spent. all deed-e— that where it got spent. all dbed-e right-— that where it got spent. all that's right. peter- that where it got spent. all that's right. peter murrell pete murray, the chief executive of the snp, her husband for ten years, a loan to loans to years, made a loan to loans to loans which he didn't declare. so that's all part of the investigation. i mean, where's the investigation. i mean, where's dbe meeer— investigation. i mean, where's dbe meeer gone?— g i mean, where's the money gone? there's they've beee— the money gone? there's they've beee deeded— the money gone? there's they've been looking at— the money gone? there's they've been looking at purchases of care-br- been looking at purchases of cars.-by various. been looking at purchases of. cars.-by various snp cars. i've heard by various snp beede— cars. i've heard by various snp beedre-r— cars. i've heard by various snp eeeede-r me— cars. i've heard by various snp people i mean and yusuf people but i mean and yusuf deed— people but i mean and yusuf dee-d dereed— people but i mean and yusuf don't forget the— people but i mean and yusuf don't forget the leader is the eeeddedddr— don't forget the leader is the continuity candidate , as he continuity candidate, as he edded— continuity candidate, as he called himself.— continuity candidate, as he called himself. and he was the

emr— called himself. and he was the eedr eee— called himself. and he was the eedr ed— called himself. and he was the only one of the— called himself. and he was the only one of the three leadership eeedddedee— only one of the three leadership candidates who— only one of the three leadership candidates who came out and backed— candidates who came out and backed peter— candidates who came out and backed peter murrell before he reedeeed— backed peter murrell before he reedeeed .— backed peter murrell before he reedeeed . rd— backed peter murrell before he resigned . it looks bad for him resigned. it looks bad for him eed— resigned. it looks bad for him eed dd— resigned. it looks bad for him eed dd deee— resigned. it looks bad for him and it does look— resigned. it looks bad for him and it does look as though he's deberdded— and it does look as though he's deberdded e— and it does look as though he's inherited a total— and it does look as though he's inherited a total mess and i dbeb— inherited a total mess and i dbeb dbe— inherited a total mess and i think this could— inherited a total mess and i think this could be the turning eeded— think this could be the turning eeded der— think this could be the turning eeded eer dbe— think this could be the turning point for the snp— think this could be the turning point for the snp in scotland . i point for the snp in scotland. i dbeb— point for the snp in scotland. i dbeb dbe— point for the snp in scotland. i think the scottish— point for the snp in scotland. i think the scottish people will rebe— think the scottish people will rrde de— think the scottish people will now wake up to— think the scottish people will now wake up to what an awful ebrre— now wake up to what an awful ebrrre deer— now wake up to what an awful shower they are _ now wake up to what an awful shower they are and how appallingly— shower they are and how appallingly they've run the eededrr— appallingly they've run the country while— appallingly they've run the country while they've been in power— country while they've been in eerrer ded— country while they've been in power. and this,— country while they've been in power. and this, i— country while they've been in power. and this, i think, is the be — power. and this, i think, is the be r— power. and this, i think, is the be rdbdeb— power. and this, i think, is the time. i think they're going to erdmbde— time. i think they're going to crumble now. _ time. i think they're going to crumble now. brirc g: crumble now. not good for the tories, though, is it? it's not because they because labour, there's labour got one mp in the last general election and i think this could lead to labour are going to capture a lot of seats there and anas sarwar has won friends. he's the labour reeder— won friends. he's the labour deeder ,— won friends. he's the labour deeder, be-e— won friends. he's the labour leader , he's, he's— : he's the labour leader , he's, he's been very leader, he's, he's been very dere— leader, he's, he's been very dere be-e— leader, he's, he's been very clever, he's met— leader, he's, he's been very clever, he's met a lot of bdedeeee— clever, he's met a lot of business men,- clever, he's met a lot of business men, had private conversations— business men, had private conversations with them. he's demonstrated— conversations with them. he's demonstrated that he's pro—business, unlike sturgeon eed— pro—business, unlike sturgeon eed dbe— pro—business, unlike sturgeon eed dbe ebr— pro—business, unlike sturgeon and the snp who— pro—business, unlike sturgeon and the snp who are anti bdedeeee— and the snp who are anti

business especially their own bebeeeeee — business especially their own bebeeeeee r— business especially their own businesses. i mean, it's extraordinary- businesses. i mean, it's extraordinary .- businesses. i mean, it's extraordinary . no, businesses. i mean, it's extraordinary. no, i think rebedr— extraordinary. no, i think labour will— extraordinary. no, i think labour will make some real ereded— labour will make some real ereded eed— labour will make some real ground and keir— labour will make some real ground and keir starmer is right to ground and keir starmer is right de beee— ground and keir starmer is right de keep going— ground and keir starmer is right to keep going up— ground and keir starmer is right to keep going up there and embedded— to keep going up there and supporting them because the conservatives, _ supporting them because the conservatives, i'm afraid , will conservatives, i'm afraid, will be e— conservatives, i'm afraid, will be e beer— conservatives, i'm afraid, will be a poor third— conservatives, i'm afraid, will be a poor third again if that if beder— be a poor third again if that if peter murrell— be a poor third again if that if peter murrell is— be a poor third again if that if peter murrell is found guilty of having— peter murrell is found guilty of berdee deed— peter murrell is found guilty of having used funds, inappropriate for having used funds, inappropriate der dbe— having used funds, inappropriate derdbe eddy. — having used funds, inappropriate for the party. and— having used funds, inappropriate for the party. “r: c having used funds, inappropriate for the party. ' “r: c for the party. and it turns out that nicola sturgeon knew all about it , that nicola sturgeon knew all about it, what will that mean for her? well well, i mean, it's a good question . then you would a good question. then you would bere— a good question. then you would bere de— a good question. then you would bere de dbeb— a good question. then you would have to think that— a good question. then you would have to think that she— g: 2“ then you would have to think that she knew eemedbdee— have to think that she knew something about it because she dbe— something about it because she was the leader— something about it because she was the leader of— something about it because she was the leader of the party. okay?— was the leader of the party. okay? ded— was the leader of the party. okay? not the _ was the leader of the party. okay? not the chief executive , okay? not the chief executive, but okay? not the chief executive, bdd ebe— okay? not the chief executive, bdd ebe rrbe— okay? not the chief executive, but she was married to the chief eedddre— but she was married to the chief eedddre eed— but she was married to the chief executive and they— but she was married to the chief executive and they did live deeedber— executive and they did live deeedber .— executive and they did live together . and— executive and they did live together . and it executive and they did live together. and it is very hard for together. and it is very hard eer meed— together. and it is very hard for most people— together. and it is very hard for most people to believe that ebe— for most people to believe that ebe ddde-d— for most people to believe that she didn't know— for most people to believe that she didn't know what was going on. she didn't know what was going se— she didn't know what was going se deed— she didn't know what was going on. so that could— she didn't know what was going on. so that could be criminal ebereee— on. so that could be criminal ebereee der— on. so that could be criminal charges for her. _ on. so that could be criminal charges for her. i: i charges for her. she could face criminal charges. i don't know about that. but i mean, eerddedr— about that. but i mean, certainly her— but i mean, certainly her legacy now, i dbeb— certainly her legacy now, i dbeb de— certainly her legacy now, i think is tainted— certainly her legacy now, i think is tainted , is totally think is tainted, is totally ebeddered— think is tainted, is totally shattered, disastrous , isn't it? shattered, disastrous, isn't it? ded— shattered, disastrous, isn't it? and r— shattered, disastrous, isn't it? and r dbeb— shattered, disastrous, isn't it? and i think that— shattered, disastrous, isn't it? and i think that the true

eeedred— and i think that the true colours of— and i think that the true colours of the- and i think that the true colours of the snp, which is a merry— colours of the snp, which is a merry .— colours of the snp, which is a merry . deber— colours of the snp, which is a murky . rather infighting narsa murky. rather infighting narsa arty party— murky. rather infighting narsa erdr eerdr de— murky. rather infighting narsa erdr eerdr de dbe— murky. rather infighting narsa arty party in the last few rreeeb— arty party in the last few rreeeb bee— arty party in the last few weeks, has come to the forefront . bed— weeks, has come to the forefront . bdd reee— weeks, has come to the forefront . bed reee ber— weeks, has come to the forefront . but yeah, her legacy is eedeeeee— . but yeah, her legacy is poisonous now. yes, absolutely, mere— poisonous now. yes, absolutely, piers pottinger,— poisonous now. yes, absolutely, piers pottinger, great public beedre— piers pottinger, great public affairs expert— piers pottinger, great public affairs expert ,_ piers pottinger, great public affairs expert , thanks for affairs expert, thanks for dededee— affairs expert, thanks for dededee — affairs expert, thanks for joining us. '“r: affairs expert, thanks for joining us. “r: : i joining us. and proud scot, of course. yes, absolutely. now, easter holiday plans could be under threat for thousands of families the port of dover families using the port of dover this weekend. again, of this weekend. not again, of course. comes amid plans to course. it comes amid plans to slash number of coaches on slash the number of coaches on good friday. ferry bosses are demeeddee— good friday. ferry bosses are demanding-coach- c: , ririe ferry bosses are demanding coach companies demanding that coach companies emeed— demanding that coach companies amend—eed— demanding that coach companies amend-and limit- demanding that coach companies amend and limit trip amend bookings and limit trip edmereb— amend bookings and limit trip numbers from _ amend bookings and limit trip numbers from the kent port amid eede— numbers from the kent port amid deee-dbe— numbers from the kent port amid deere-dbe edde— numbers from the kent port amid fears -the site will- numbers from the kent port amid fears the site will be fears that the site will be peeked—obi fears that the site will be- packed_our national packed with people. our national reeerder— packed with people. our national reeerder deee— packed with people. our national reporter theo chikomba joins us ddre— reporter theo chikomba joins us ddre bem — reporter theo chikomba joins us now live from dover. theo, membd — now live from dover. theo, morning. the queues haven't started yet, but i guess they will be there quite . soon yes, will be there quite. soon yes, good morning. well, it's- cc ric “ yes, good morning. well, it's the bred— good morning. well, it's the bed deve— good morning. well, it's the first day, particularly today, rrbee— first day, particularly today, rrbee many— first day, particularly today, when many people will be making dbeb— when many people will be making dbedr drered— when many people will be making their travel plans— when many people will be making their travel plans out of the uk eed— their travel plans out of the uk eed reed— their travel plans out of the uk and around the— their travel plans out of the uk and around the uk as well. here at and around the uk as well. here ed dbe— and around the uk as well. here

ed dbe rem— and around the uk as well. here ed dbe rerd ed— and around the uk as well. here at the port of dover. cars are dead— at the port of dover. cars are dead bere— at the port of dover. cars are already here queuing up to get bedde— already here queuing up to get deedde dbe— already here queuing up to get inside the port— already here queuing up to get inside the port and they've been bere— inside the port and they've been bere ebe— inside the port and they've been here since the— inside the port and they've been here since the early hours of dbe— here since the early hours of dbde membe— here since the early hours of this morning last weekend. lots of this morning last weekend. lots ed beede— this morning last weekend. lots ed eeede were— this morning last weekend. lots of people were stuck in traffic debe— of people were stuck in traffic drrdee de— of people were stuck in traffic drrdee de eed— of people were stuck in traffic drrdee de eed b.— of people were stuck in traffic trying to get in. there was some deededded— trying to get in. there was some logistical problems when it de— logistical problems when it comes to processing and they deeded— comes to processing and they were queuing all— comes to processing and they were queuing all the way up to the were queuing all the way up to dbe dee— were queuing all the way up to dbe deb ed— were queuing all the way up to dbe deb ed dbe— were queuing all the way up to the top of the bridge, which you can the top of the bridge, which you deed— the top of the bridge, which you can see just on— the top of the bridge, which you can see just on my— the top of the bridge, which you can see just on my left ebedder— can see just on my left shoulder. but- can see just on my left shoulder. but today, things are bedder— shoulder. but today, things are bedder der— shoulder. but today, things are better for the— shoulder. but today, things are better for the moment. tomorrow eeddd— better for the moment. tomorrow eeddd be— better for the moment. tomorrow could be busier.— better for the moment. tomorrow could be busier. yesterday i ebere— could be busier. yesterday i ebere de— could be busier. yesterday i ebere de e— could be busier. yesterday i spoke to a representative from bedded— spoke to a representative from dedrrerb deedd— spoke to a representative from network rail and— spoke to a representative from network rail and he was speaking ebedd— network rail and he was speaking ebedd eeme— network rail and he was speaking ebedd ed— network rail and he was speaking about some of the— network rail and he was speaking about some of the engineering rrerbe— about some of the engineering rrerbe errer— about some of the engineering works away from _ about some of the engineering works away from the port and in reed— works away from the port and in reed dbe— works away from the port and in around the country. _ works away from the port and in around the country. and this is red— around the country. and this is rrbed be— around the country. and this is rrbed be bed— around the country. and this is what he had to— around the country. and this is what he had to say. around the country. and this is what he had to say . “riiri what he had to say. there's never a good time for closing the railway to improve it at easter. it's one of the quieter times of the year, so it's the best chance to do this work. but i do apologise to everybody deemed— but i do apologise to everybody deeedee de— but i do apologise to everybody planning to travel— but i do apologise to everybody planning to travel this weekend for planning to travel this weekend eer eed— planning to travel this weekend for and those— planning to travel this weekend for and those people who are deemed— for and those people who are planning travelling , please planning on travelling, please ebeer— planning on travelling, please ebeer-bede- planning on travelling, please check train operating check with your train operating eemeeer— check with your train operating company before _ check with your train operating company before travelling to see if company before travelling to see dd redr— company before travelling to see dd redr dedmer— company before travelling to see dd redr dedmer de— company before travelling to see if your journey is going to be dderdeded. — if your journey is going to be disrupted. well,—

if your journey is going to be disrupted. well, travel expert sdmee— disrupted. well, travel expert simon calder— disrupted. well, travel expert simon calder joins us now . c: simon calder joins us now. good membe— simon calder joins us now. good memdeg. ebee.— simon calder joins us now. good morning, simon. oh,— simon calder joins us now. good morning, simon. oh, it's always nice to see you. you are the absolute expert on these issues. and i feel a sense of calm. but i know that if i was travelling somewhere tomorrow, that calm would very quickly disappear. how bad is it going to be for people, okay well, look, people, al? okay well, look, should we start on the railways ? because actually a lot of beede— ? because actually a lot of eeede re— 7’ because actually a lot of people are saying it is ridiculous— people are saying it is ridiculous that we have these redd— ridiculous that we have these rail engineering— ridiculous that we have these rail engineering works at ereeddr— rail engineering works at ereeddr dbe — rail engineering works at exactly the time when people are rreeddee — exactly the time when people are rreeddee de — exactly the time when people are wanting to travel— exactly the time when people are wanting to travel because, of course, since covid, the embedded— course, since covid, the commuting business has collapsed , eerddederdr— commuting business has collapsed , particularly actually on deedde— , particularly actually on mondays and— , particularly actually on mondays and fridays. but we are going— mondays and fridays. but we are going de— mondays and fridays. but we are going de eee— mondays and fridays. but we are going to see wide— mondays and fridays. but we are going to see wide scale engineering— going to see wide scale engineering ,- going to see wide scale engineering, closed going to see wide scale engineering , closed downs. the engineering, closed downs. the meed— engineering, closed downs. the most significant— engineering, closed downs. the most significant one, i think, eddeeddee— most significant one, i think, eddeeddee dbe— most significant one, i think, affecting the highest number of beede— affecting the highest number of eeede de— affecting the highest number of eeede de deed— affecting the highest number of people is that the west coast meb— people is that the west coast dbe— people is that the west coast main line, which— people is that the west coast main line, which serves glasgow, rddebdreb— main line, which serves glasgow, edinburgh press— main line, which serves glasgow, edinburgh press ,_ main line, which serves glasgow, edinburgh press , liverpool, edinburgh press, liverpool, manchester, _ edinburgh press, liverpool, manchester, north wales, bdrmdeebem— manchester, north wales, birmingham and the west midlands and birmingham and the west midlands eed dbe— birmingham and the west midlands and the stretch,— birmingham and the west midlands and the stretch, the— birmingham and the west midlands and the stretch, the last 50

mddee— and the stretch, the last 50 miles between _ and the stretch, the last 50 miles between milton keynes and beedee— miles between milton keynes and euston station,— miles between milton keynes and euston station, which we can see deer-re— euston station, which we can see deer-re edeeed— euston station, which we can see they're closed completely . on they're closed completely. on all they're closed completely. on dd dbe— they're closed completely. on dd dbe rer— they're closed completely. on all the way through from good rrdder— all the way through from good redder meedee— all the way through from good friday through to— all the way through from good friday through to easter monday . derr— friday through to easter monday . derr bere— friday through to easter monday . now there are— friday through to easter monday . now there are wonderful bus redeeemeed— . now there are wonderful bus replacement services in place. bedee— replacement services in place. dredee rrbr— replacement services in place. trains will be— replacement services in place. trains will be starting and ended— trains will be starting and ending either— trains will be starting and ending either in keynes or in rugby— ending either in keynes or in rugby drem — ending either in keynes or in rugby from where you can catch a bus rugby from where you can catch a be de— rugby from where you can catch a bus to kettering— rugby from where you can catch a bus to kettering and get a train bem— bus to kettering and get a train drem bere.— bus to kettering and get a train from there. and— bus to kettering and get a train from there. and further north on the from there. and further north on dbe breed— from there. and further north on the west coast,— from there. and further north on the west coast, main line , the west coast, main line, bere-e— the west coast, main line, dbere-e beee— the west coast, main line, there's huge amounts of work going— there's huge amounts of work going ee— there's huge amounts of work going on between carlisle and edeeeerr— going on between carlisle and deeeerr eed— going on between carlisle and glasgow and edinburgh and so deed-e— glasgow and edinburgh and so made going— glasgow and edinburgh and so made going de— glasgow and edinburgh and so that's going to be causing erebdeme— that's going to be causing problems actually all the way bedee— problems actually all the way dbredeb dddd— problems actually all the way through till june— problems actually all the way through till june . other big through till june. other big erer-eede— through till june. other big projects include the part of beedee,— projects include the part of london, victoria— projects include the part of london, victoria station which eerree— london, victoria station which serves brighton— london, victoria station which serves brighton and gatwick airport-— serves brighton and gatwick airport. that's— serves brighton and gatwick airport. that's going to be deeed— airport. that's going to be closed completely. there are eerdded— closed completely. there are parallel trains— closed completely. there are parallel trains from london bedee— parallel trains from london brddee eed— parallel trains from london bridge and we're also seeing derb— bridge and we're also seeing rrerb, der— bridge and we're also seeing work, for example , between work, for example, between ddebrddee — work, for example, between tunbridge wells and hastings in beed— tunbridge wells and hastings in beed eed— tunbridge wells and hastings in kent and sussex,— tunbridge wells and hastings in kent and sussex, wherever you're debe— kent and sussex, wherever you're eeme. de— kent and sussex, wherever you're going- de de— kent and sussex, wherever you're going. as we heard— kent and sussex, wherever you're

going. as we heard from thomas, red-re— going. as we heard from thomas, red-re reddr— going. as we heard from thomas, red-re reddr eed— going. as we heard from thomas, you've really got to— going. as we heard from thomas, you've really got to check in edree— you've really got to check in edrree dd— you've really got to check in advance if you're _ you've really got to check in advance if you're to make a rail drde— advance if you're to make a rail drde. rede— advance if you're to make a rail drde. dbde dbde— advance if you're to make a rail trip. this this easter. and of , dd— trip. this this easter. and of course , if you're— trip. this this easter. and of course , if you're trying to get course, if you're trying to get to course, if you're trying to get de rreeee — course, if you're trying to get to france, well,— course, if you're trying to get to france, well, today on the dredee— to france, well, today on the dredee ,— to france, well, today on the dredee , dd-e— to france, well, today on the trains , it's madness. eurostar trains, it's madness. eurostar bee— trains, it's madness. eurostar has cancelled— trains, it's madness. eurostar has cancelled two trains already bedrreee— has cancelled two trains already between london— has cancelled two trains already between london and paris because of between london and paris because ed dbe— between london and paris because ed dbe rreeeb— between london and paris because of the french national strike bere— of the french national strike dbere .— of the french national strike dbere . ded— of the french national strike there . and they— of the french national strike there . and they say if you get there. and they say if you get to there. and they say if you get de redde— there. and they say if you get de rerde ,— there. and they say if you get to paris , god,— there. and they say if you get to paris , god, you— there. and they say if you get to paris , god, you know, your to paris, god, you know, your erebdeme— to paris, god, you know, your erebdeme re— to paris, god, you know, your problems are really just beginning— problems are really just beginning because of the all the edrbe— beginning because of the all the edrbe eeddee— beginning because of the all the strike action affecting dreeeeerd— strike action affecting transport throughout france. srdrod— transport throughout france. error were— transport throughout france. simon we've had— transport throughout france. simon we've had this- transport throughout france. dicib “rir: simon we've had this sort of tradition, haven't we, in this country that rail works are carried out during holiday weekends or when the kids are off school ? i can't help but off school? i can't help but think that maybe we need to rethink that system because what happens at the moment now is people able to from people are able to work from home easily , much more home quite easily, much more easily post pandemic. home quite easily, much more easily post pandemic . but what easily post pandemic. but what they do is and see they can't do is travel and see their family from home. and i can't but that the can't help but think that the passenger must be more can't help but think that the passinger must be more can't help but think that the passin holiday must be more can't help but think that the passin holiday times.t be more can't help but think that the passin holiday times than more can't help but think that the passin holiday times than it'se now in holiday times than it's ever been. and yet we're still being penalised with this old fashioned . absolutely

fashioned system. absolutely right. the numbers have eemdededr— , 3x the numbers have completely bounced back at rreebeede— completely bounced back at weekends, which gives you a due. — weekends, which gives you a due. dbde— weekends, which gives you a clue. this isn't— weekends, which gives you a clue. this isn't people going to rrerb. — clue. this isn't people going to rrerb. rd-e— clue. this isn't people going to work. it's people— clue. this isn't people going to work. it's people going out and ebeer— work. it's people going out and ebedd, eeedee— work. it's people going out and about, seeing friends, seeing demddr— about, seeing friends, seeing demddr going— about, seeing friends, seeing family going off— about, seeing friends, seeing family going off on trips within the family going off on trips within dbe de— family going off on trips within dbe db eed— family going off on trips within the uk and certainly only it's ready— the uk and certainly only it's reddr edd— the uk and certainly only it's really odd that— the uk and certainly only it's really odd that given that the railwavr— really odd that given that the railway, which— really odd that given that the railway, which is— really odd that given that the railway, which is of course , as railway, which is of course, as we bere— railway, which is of course, as we have talked— railway, which is of course, as we have talked about many times in we have talked about many times de deeeerede— we have talked about many times in desperate states— we have talked about many times in desperate states in terms of deeded— in desperate states in terms of deedee eee— in desperate states in terms of losing one fifth— in desperate states in terms of losing one fifth of— in desperate states in terms of losing one fifth of its eeeeeeeer— losing one fifth of its passenger numbers , they've passenger numbers, they've deeeerededr— passenger numbers, they've desperately to _ passenger numbers, they've desperately to get people back . desperately to get people back. ded— desperately to get people back. and ee— desperately to get people back. and ee reed— desperately to get people back. and so what do— desperately to get people back. and so what do they do? well, deer— and so what do they do? well, deer deee— and so what do they do? well, they close everything down over reeder— they close everything down over beeder ee— they close everything down over easter so that— they close everything down over easter so that exactly the beede— easter so that exactly the eeede deer— easter so that exactly the people they need to attract beede— people they need to attract beedre-ere— people they need to attract people are thinking , okay, people who are thinking, okay, red,— people who are thinking, okay, wett, r-dd— people who are thinking, okay, well, i'll switch _ people who are thinking, okay, well, i'll switch from road to red— well, i'll switch from road to red deed— well, i'll switch from road to rail just look— well, i'll switch from road to rail just look at— well, i'll switch from road to rail just look at it and just dbeb,— rail just look at it and just think, well,— rail just look at it and just think, well, i'm— rail just look at it and just think, well, i'm not going to bedder— think, well, i'm not going to bother with— think, well, i'm not going to bother with that. it looks an ebeeddde— bother with that. it looks an absolute mess.— bother with that. it looks an absolute mess. so, yes, it's eemedbdee— absolute mess. so, yes, it's something which actually has beee— something which actually has beee ddbed— something which actually has been talked about since the deedde— been talked about since the deedbe ed— been talked about since the depths of the— been talked about since the depths of the covid pandemic rrbee— depths of the covid pandemic rrbee dbe— depths of the covid pandemic when the railway— depths of the covid pandemic when the railway industry was ebrdededr— when the railway industry was ebrdededr ee— when the railway industry was obviously an utter, utter ebembdee— obviously an utter, utter shambles in— obviously an utter, utter shambles in terms of money

mebded— shambles in terms of money makingr deeme— shambles in terms of money making, losing well, £1 million an making, losing well, £1 million are bedr— making, losing well, £1 million are bedr der— making, losing well, £1 million are bedr der e— making, losing well, £1 million an hour for a lot— making, losing well, £1 million an hour for a lot of that time. ded— an hour for a lot of that time. and bere— an hour for a lot of that time. and there will— an hour for a lot of that time. and there will be— an hour for a lot of that time. and there will be questions eebed— and there will be questions eebed. ded— and there will be questions asked. and certainly by the time we eed— asked. and certainly by the time we eed reed— asked. and certainly by the time we get around to— asked. and certainly by the time we get around to christmas, i dbeb— we get around to christmas, i dbeb e— we get around to christmas, i dbeb e ded— we get around to christmas, i think a lot of— we get around to christmas, i think a lot of people will be eerded— think a lot of people will be sayingr beee— think a lot of people will be sayingr beee ee— think a lot of people will be saying, hang on, is this the eeeedbde— saying, hang on, is this the sensible way— saying, hang on, is this the sensible way to _ saying, hang on, is this the sensible way to do this? ' “r: sensible way to do this? and ebee.— sensible way to do this? and simon, they're— sensible way to do this? and simon, they're saying to coach, coach companies, stay away from doveh coach companies, stay away from dover. how can they can't compel coach companies, coach companies to stay away? the coach companies have got bookings. are they to up? aren't they going to turn up? aren't they? well, i'm going to be i was down in dover yesterday. in fact , i was down in dover yesterday. in fact, i met thomas was down in dover yesterday. in fact , i met thomas there, fact, i met thomas there, which e greed— fact, i met thomas there, which was a great treat. _ fact, i met thomas there, which was a great treat. we were both up ee— was a great treat. we were both up ee dbe— was a great treat. we were both up on the white— was a great treat. we were both up on the white cliffs and you eeddddr— up on the white cliffs and you can actually see— up on the white cliffs and you can actually see them there bebded— can actually see them there behind that— can actually see them there behind that line— can actually see them there behind that line of trucks eemdee— behind that line of trucks coming down— behind that line of trucks coming down the jubilee way into the coming down the jubilee way into dbe eerd— coming down the jubilee way into dbe eerd eed— coming down the jubilee way into the port and effectively , you've the port and effectively, you've got the port and effectively, you've eed ee— the port and effectively, you've got an extraordinarily constrained- got an extraordinarily constrained site between the dbde— constrained site between the edddde eed— constrained site between the cliffs and the _ constrained site between the cliffs and the channel, very ddddde— cliffs and the channel, very ddddde reem— cliffs and the channel, very little room to— cliffs and the channel, very little room to move. and we saw the little room to move. and we saw dbe reedde— little room to move. and we saw dbe reeddde ed— little room to move. and we saw the results of that— little room to move. and we saw the results of that last weekend rrddb — the results of that last weekend rrddb dd— the results of that last weekend rrddb dd dbe — the results of that last weekend with all the coaches that got eber.— with all the coaches that got eddeb. derr— with all the coaches that got eddeb. derr r— with all the coaches that got stuck. now, i talked to the boss of stuck. now, i talked to the boss ed dbe— stuck. now, i talked to the boss ed dbe eerd. — stuck. now, i talked to the boss ed dbe eerd. be— stuck. now, i talked to the boss of the port. he says, we've got edeedddeeeddr— of the port. he says, we've got significantly fewer— of the port. he says, we've got

significantly fewer coaches going— significantly fewer coaches going meedee— significantly fewer coaches going through tomorrow. is going to going through tomorrow. is going de be— going through tomorrow. is going de be dbe— going through tomorrow. is going de be dbe red— going through tomorrow. is going to be the real crunch day . to be the real crunch day. deer-re— to be the real crunch day. deer-re eed— to be the real crunch day. they've got extra facilities . they've got extra facilities. deer-re — they've got extra facilities. they're putting— they've got extra facilities. they're putting up a marquee to act they're putting up a marquee to eed ee— they're putting up a marquee to eed ee e— they're putting up a marquee to eed ee e eerd— they're putting up a marquee to act as a sort of— they're putting up a marquee to act as a sort of second coach. bedd— act as a sort of second coach. bdd add— act as a sort of second coach. bdd add ee— act as a sort of second coach. hall all on top— act as a sort of second coach. hall all on top of— act as a sort of second coach. hall all on top of that, they going— hall all on top of that, they going de— hall all on top of that, they are going to be— hall all on top of that, they are going to be getting more ededd— are going to be getting more ededd de— are going to be getting more ededd de eed— are going to be getting more staff in and as— are going to be getting more staff in and as you say, eereeddee— staff in and as you say, spreading the- staff in and as you say, spreading the number of coaches bedee— spreading the number of coaches dbredeb dbe— spreading the number of coaches through the weekend effectively , eeeede — through the weekend effectively , eeeede rrbe — through the weekend effectively , eeeede rree re— through the weekend effectively , people who are booked to drered— , people who are booked to drered rrddd— , people who are booked to travel will be _ , people who are booked to travel will be able to do so. deer-re— travel will be able to do so. deer-re deed— travel will be able to do so. they're just saying you can erebebdr— they're just saying you can probably have— they're just saying you can probably have a smoother journey probably have a smootherjourney if probably have a smootherjourney dd red— probably have a smootherjourney dd red-be— probably have a smootherjourney if you-be flexible— probably have a smootherjourney if you be flexible about if you can be flexible about demeed— if you can be flexible about demeed. r— if you can be flexible about demand. i shall— if you can be flexible about demand. i shall find out tomorrow because i have the der— tomorrow because i have the der ed— tomorrow because i have the immense joy of being booked on the immense joy of being booked on dbe broo— immense joy of being booked on dbe boo bee— immense joy of being booked on the 9:00 bus from _ immense joy of being booked on the 9:00 bus from victoria coach sdeddee— the 9:00 bus from victoria coach sdeddee de— the 9:00 bus from victoria coach station in london— the 9:00 bus from victoria coach station in london to brussels . i station in london to brussels. i deed— station in london to brussels. i dee-d beer— station in london to brussels. i don't know how— station in london to brussels. i don't know how much of good rrdder— don't know how much of good rrdder r— don't know how much of good redder r rrddd— don't know how much of good friday i will spend in dover, bed— friday i will spend in dover, bdd r— friday i will spend in dover, bdd r beee— friday i will spend in dover, bdd r beee dd— friday i will spend in dover, but i hope it is— friday i will spend in dover, but i hope it is just an hour or ded— but i hope it is just an hour or ded rrber— but i hope it is just an hour or so. and what about- but i hope it is just an hour or so. , “c97 so. and what about flights? simon i'm off to walk the catalonian coast next week . will catalonian coast next week. will i get there? okay. are the flights going to be good ? first flights going to be good? first of all, your choice of destination- of all, your choice of destination is impeccable. the ceddee— destination is impeccable. the catalan coast,— destination is impeccable. the catalan coast, particularly just eeddb— catalan coast, particularly just eeddb ed— catalan coast, particularly just eeddb ed dbe—

catalan coast, particularly just south of the french, french berder— south of the french, french berder, de— south of the french, french berder, de e— south of the french, french border, is a joy— south of the french, french border, is a joy .- south of the french, french border, is a joy . unfortunately, border, is a joy. unfortunately, bere-e— border, is a joy. unfortunately, dbere-e e— border, is a joy. unfortunately, there's a clue— border, is a joy. unfortunately, there's a clue there. you have to there's a clue there. you have de ddr— there's a clue there. you have de ddr re— there's a clue there. you have to fly over france _ there's a clue there. you have to fly over france to get there. rreeeb — to fly over france to get there. rreeeb dr— to fly over france to get there. french air traffic— to fly over france to get there. french air traffic controllers bere— french air traffic controllers have basically— french air traffic controllers have basically been on strike for have basically been on strike der ebedd— have basically been on strike for about three _ have basically been on strike for about three weeks. british dbrrere — for about three weeks. british airwaysr eberrer,— for about three weeks. british airways, easyjet, ryanair eeeeedded— airways, easyjet, ryanair cancelled flights today because deer— cancelled flights today because deer reddr— cancelled flights today because deer reddr eeee— cancelled flights today because they really gone for a big rrdbedd— they really gone for a big walkout today— they really gone for a big walkout today . and walkout today. and unfortunately, because so many dddebde— unfortunately, because so many dddebde drem — unfortunately, because so many flights from the _ unfortunately, because so many flights from the uk go over rreeee— flights from the uk go over rreeee de— flights from the uk go over france to get— flights from the uk go over france to get to _ flights from the uk go over france to get to portugal , france to get to portugal, sede— france to get to portugal, sede bdr— france to get to portugal, spain, italy, switzerland and so on, spain, italy, switzerland and so dd-e— spain, italy, switzerland and so be de— spain, italy, switzerland and so on, it's an absolute mess. and brdddeb— on, it's an absolute mess. and british airways— on, it's an absolute mess. and british airways cancelled 20 dddebde— british airways cancelled 20 dddeede deder. — british airways cancelled 20 flights today. easyjet have eeeeedded— flights today. easyjet have cancelled a _ flights today. easyjet have cancelled a few more. and that's deed-e— cancelled a few more. and that's made meeddr— cancelled a few more. and that's that's mostly into— cancelled a few more. and that's that's mostly into france, but dee— that's mostly into france, but edee dedeed— that's mostly into france, but edee dedeed ,— that's mostly into france, but also indeed , british airways has also indeed, british airways has eeeeedded— also indeed, british airways has eeeeedded e— also indeed, british airways has cancelled a round— also indeed, british airways has cancelled a round trip from beedbrerr— cancelled a round trip from heathrow to— cancelled a round trip from heathrow to basel ilona because deed— heathrow to basel ilona because deed deee— heathrow to basel ilona because deed eeee re— heathrow to basel ilona because that goes over french airspace. ded— that goes over french airspace. eed dbe— that goes over french airspace. eed dbe deer— that goes over french airspace. and the they are— that goes over french airspace. and the they are on strike bere.— and the they are on strike dbere. ee— and the they are on strike there. so sorry— and the they are on strike there. so sorry .- and the they are on strike there. so sorry . and if you are there. so sorry. and if you are going— there. so sorry. and if you are going de— there. so sorry. and if you are going to france,— there. so sorry. and if you are going to france, of course, once red— going to france, of course, once red dedee— going to france, of course, once red dedeb dere— going to france, of course, once you touch down, your problems are you touch down, your problems edr— you touch down, your problems eedr deed— you touch down, your problems are only just beginning. �*vbdricc are only just beginning. well, deed-e— are only just beginning. well, dbed-e e— are only just beginning. well, that's a cheerful— are only just beginning. well, that's a cheerful note from simon calder from the independent. for joining independent. thanks for joining us, still us, pierce potter, you're still with you with us. pierce, are you planning a nice easter getaway

with lovely wife, karen? i with your lovely wife, karen? i was i heard simon there. was until i heard simon there. no,— was until i heard simon there. bed-rm— was until i heard simon there. bed-rm dedee- was until i heard simon there. der-r-m eedee de- no, i mean, i'm going to semereed— no, i mean, i'm going to somerset-the- no, i mean, i'm going to somerset the weekend , but somerset for the weekend, but eerd— somerset for the weekend, but eerd reed— somerset for the weekend, but eerd rreeb rm— somerset for the weekend, but next week i'm going to sicily , next week i'm going to sicily, rrbee— next week i'm going to sicily, rrbdeb rm— next week i'm going to sicily, rrbdeb r-m rerr— next week i'm going to sicily, which i'm very fond of. but of course , we then— which i'm very fond of. but of course , we then fly over france course, we then fly over france , ee r— course, we then fly over france , ee r deed— course, we then fly over france , ee r deed beee— course, we then fly over france , ee r deed keep my— course, we then fly over france , so i just keep my fingers crossed. those- , so i just keep my fingers crossed. i“ , so i just keep my fingers- crossed. those strikes in france are crippling. well the french love strikes all about the pension, of course, because they want to raise the pension from 62 64. god help us. i mean, 62 to 64. god help us. i mean, i'm going to work till at least 67. absolutely i know. i'm going to work till at least 67. absolutely iknow. that's next year , isn't it? when it's next year, isn't it? when it's bev next year, isn't it? when it's ber demer— next year, isn't it? when it's bev turner, it'll— next year, isn't it? when it's bev turner, it'll be- next year, isn't it? when it's bev turner, it'll be 80.- "cjkcqcze" c c7’ when it's bev turner, it'll be 80. the “ri;,b

course, on gb news. well, it's part— course, on gb news. well, it's eerd ed— course, on gb news. well, it's part of the government's strategy to end the controversial of controversial practise of housing hotel housing asylum seekers in hotel accommodation, housing asylum seekers in hotel accommocosting the currently costing us, the taxpayer, up to £7 million a day. let's talk to our gb news eedddded— day. let's talk to our gb news political reporter,— ririe let's talk to our gb news political reporter, olivia “flexe— political reporter, olivia redder-dedee- political reporter, olivia utley, joins us from the utley, who joins us from the beme— utley, who joins us from the home office— utley, who joins us from the home office morning. c: home office this morning. good membe— home office this morning. good morning,-there's- home office this morning. good morning,-there's only. morning, olivia. there's only going on this going to be 500 people on this flotel , as they're calling it. flotel, as they're calling it. isn't it just a little bit of kind of headline grabbing clickbait that isn't going to make any difference whatsoever ? make any difference whatsoever? well, it does feel a little bit like a drop in the ocean, but suella braverman is absolutely determined to end this practise of housing migrants in hotels, which, as you say, is costing the taxpayer up to 7 million a day, as well as it only being 500 migrants. there are a couple of 500 migrants. there are a couple ed eber— 500 migrants. there are a couple of other problems— 500 migrants. there are a couple of other problems too,— i300 3 there are a couple of other problems too, one of rrbee— of other problems too, one of rrbdeb de— of other problems too, one of rrbdeb de dbe— of other problems too, one of which is the council in dorset eed— which is the council in dorset eed-dbe— which is the council in dorset and the conservative mp and actually the conservative mp deberd— and actually the conservative mp bdeberd-rerr— and actually the conservative mp bdeberd-rerr, rerr- richard drax are very, very concerned about the idea of barbe— concerned about the idea of berdee e— concerned about the idea of having a barge— concerned about the idea of having a barge full of migrants in having a barge full of migrants de dbeb— having a barge full of migrants in their town. _ having a barge full of migrants in their town. they're worried ebedd— in their town. they're worried ebedd dbe — in their town. they're worried about the effect— in their town. they're worried about the effect it will have on the about the effect it will have on dbe deed— about the effect it will have on the local community. c the local community. it's a beeder— the local community. it's a popular seaside— the local community. it's a popular seaside resort and so the promised to the government has promised to pay the government has promised to pay council up to £3,500 per

pay the council up to £3,500 per day, per migrant in order to sort of sweeten the pill as it were. well, if the government's plan is to cut costs, the headune plan is to cut costs, the headline figures are that it costs about £150 per day to put up a migrant in hotel. all this will cost £50 a day. add another £3,500 on to it and it's not looking like such a value for money solution . now the money solution. now the government is in talks. you say it's only 500 and you're quite right . but the government is in right. but the government is in talks to do another one of sort of 2000 migrants in a different location ocean, but with a lot of problems besetting this one, there's a bit an issue there, there's a bit of an issue there, isn't there? olivia, thank you. red-d— isn't there? olivia, thank you. you'd have thought bev, wouldn't you, local mp, richard you, that the local mp, richard drax, been home drax, would have been the home secretary talked to secretary would have talked to him plan ? yes. first secretary would have talked to hin knew plan ? yes. first secretary would have talked to hinknew about plan ? yes. first secretary would have talked to hin knew about it.an ? yes. first secretary would have talked to hin knew about it when’es. first secretary would have talked to hin knew about it when he first secretary would have talked to hinknew about it when he read it he knew about it when he read it in media. we talked to him in the media. we talked to him yesterday. it's outrageous. and they even about they didn't even know about the £3,000 was going or £3,000 where it was going or a migrant. such a mess. we migrant. it's such a mess. we want stop the boats policy to want to stop the boats policy to work. and prime work. home secretary and prime minister. god's sake, minister. but for god's sake, take country with you on it.

take the country with you on it. totally still to come, totally right. still to come, rr-erede— totally right. still to come, we're-to give- totally right. still to come,l we're-to give-more we're going to give you more dededee— we're going to give you more dededee ee— we're going to give you more updates on this. _ we're going to give you more updates on this. tory mp who eddered— updates on this. tory mp who eddered de— updates on this. tory mp who offered to leak— updates on this. tory mp who offered to leak confidential bedder— offered to leak confidential. policy—gambling policy documents to gambling deddedrr— policy documents to gamblingi deddedrr—dede industry investors and lots lots -de— industry investors and lots lots -de de— industry investors and lots lots more. -is to the- industry investors and lots lots more. is to the point on gb more. this is to the point on gb dere— more. this is to the point on gb news, britain's— more. this is to the point on gb news, britain's news channel. bedde— news, britain's news channel. beddedbere. — news, britain's news channel. hello there. i'm— news, britain's news channel. hello there. ciirirg d hello there. i'm greg dewhurst. welcome to your latest broadcast hello there. i'm greg dewhurst. welcrthe to your latest broadcast hello there. i'm greg dewhurst. welcrthe met our latest broadcast hello there. i'm greg dewhurst. welcrthe met office.est broadcast hello there. i'm greg dewhurst. welcrthe met office. we 3roadcast hello there. i'm greg dewhurst. welcrthe met office. we see dcast hello there. i'm greg dewhurst. welcrthe met office. we see some from the met office. we see some heavy showers across the uk through the ahead. there through the day ahead. there will some sunny spells over will be some sunny spells over the next temperatures the next few days. temperatures on so low pressure in on the rise, so low pressure in charge at the charge of our weather at the moment. this starts to slip moment. but this starts to slip away into good friday in the easter weekend and it allows high to build and high pressure to build and settle things generally, settle things down. generally, however, fronts will try however, weather fronts will try and move in, particularly as we get so heavy showers get to monday. so heavy showers already the word go this already from the word go this morning northern parts of morning across northern parts of england, across into northern ireland, , generally ireland, elsewhere, generally dry with some sunny spells dry start with some sunny spells . move through the . but as we move through the day, in risk some day, increase in risk of some heavy thundery showers across parts the midlands, parts of wales, the midlands, central, england, central, southern england, elsewhere see elsewhere will generally see sunny spells, rain holding on though across shetland and orkney as we move into the

afternoon . in any sunny spells afternoon. in any sunny spells we should see highs of around 15 or 16 celsius. so feeling a little warmer than it did on wednesday into the evening time. wednesday into the evening time. we could see those showers merge into some longer spells of rain, particularly down east and parts of england, elsewhere , we'll of england, but elsewhere, we'll see clearing skies and that will allow temperatures to drop away as we head overnight. temperatures parts of northern ireland, scotland falling close to if not below freezing, leading patchy frost here, leading to a patchy frost here, just up across the far just holding up across the far southeast where we have thicker cloud and some patchy rain. so means chilly start to friday means a chilly start to friday morning , but plenty of blue morning, but plenty of blue skies exception being skies with the exception being just east coast of england and also far north—east of scotland. here. we could see some low cloud lingering day cloud lingering through the day , for the , perhaps thick enough for the odd spot of rain or odd spot of light rain or drizzle. so feeling quite cool here. but elsewhere in the sunshine the afternoon , a sunshine into the afternoon, a warm feeling. day 16 or 17 celsius in that sunshine making it feel pretty pleasant for the time of year. this warm, dry weather holds on through

saturday and into sunday. plenty of sunshine, but it does turn cooler and more unsettled as we head into easter monday. those temperatures just dropping a little to around average for the time of there's help for households. are you over state pension age? if your weekly income is below £182.60, or £278.70 if you live with a partner, you could be eligible for pension credit, even if you own your home or have savings. it's worth, on average, £3,500 a year and you could get help with heating bills and more, plus up to £900 in cost of living payments.

good morning and welcome to the point on gb news with me andrew pierce and bev turner. still to come this morning— pierce and bev turner. still to come this morning ,- 37�* riiriri ri“r: c. still to come this morning , front page of come this morning, front page of deder-e— come this morning, front page of deder-e ddmee— come this morning, front page of deder-e ddmee e— come this morning, front page of today's times, a conservative mp breddee—

today's times, a conservative mp breddee redee— today's times, a conservative mp breaking rules on— today's times, a conservative mp breaking rules on lobbying to bede— breaking rules on lobbying to bede edd— breaking rules on lobbying to eede edd dbe— breaking rules on lobbying to help out the gambling industry . help out the gambling industry. be-e— help out the gambling industry. be de— help out the gambling industry. be b be— help out the gambling industry. he's in big trouble. the mp for bdeebeeed— he's in big trouble. the mp for blackpool was— he's in big trouble. the mp for blackpool was filmed but one of our blackpool was filmed but one of rerr— blackpool was filmed but one of rerr eb— blackpool was filmed but one of our very own gb news presenter dedeed— our very own gb news presenter dedeed deed— our very own gb news presenter dodged deed rerr— our very own gb news presenter dodged that very same sting. rrddd— dodged that very same sting. rrddd dedd— dodged that very same sting. rrddd dedd red— dodged that very same sting. witt tell you all— dodged that very same sting. will tell you all about it and dedd— will tell you all about it and ddb de— will tell you all about it and ddb de dbe— will tell you all about it and talk to the person in question. dedeed.— talk to the person in question. indeed, somebody has a bit of common sense— indeed, somebody has a bit of common sense and the prime rddededer— common sense and the prime rddededer de— common sense and the prime minister is defending that plan to minister is defending that plan de-mdereede— minister is defending that plan to migrants barge off to house migrants in a barge off the to house migrants in a barge off dbe-eeeed.— to house migrants in a barge off the-coast, even- to house migrants in a barge off the coast, even though the dorset coast, even though it's the dorset coast, even though dd-e beee— the dorset coast, even though it's been opposed— the dorset coast, even though it's been opposed by the local derr— it's been opposed by the local derr rrre — it's been opposed by the local derr rrre be— it's been opposed by the local derr rrre be red— it's been opposed by the local tory mp. jrir : tory mp. do you think it should be be housed there? be they should be housed there? also, hundreds police also, hundreds of police edddeere— officers are expected to be remered— officers are expected to be removed from _ officers are expected to be removed from the met police as commissioner— removed from the met police as commissioner mark rowley commissioner sir mark rowley edmdde— commissioner sir mark rowley edmdde de— commissioner sir mark rowley edmdde de e— commissioner sir mark rowley admits in a letter— commissioner sir mark rowley admits in a letter that there eerre-b— admits in a letter that there ererre-b deed- admits in a letter that there are who just shouldn't are officers who just shouldn't be de— are officers who just shouldn't be de dbe— are officers who just shouldn't be in the force. _ are officers who just shouldn't be in the force. do you think dbe— be in the force. do you think dbe dred— be in the force. do you think dbe rded de— be in the force. do you think the met is able— be in the force. do you think the met is able to investigate eed— the met is able to investigate eed rederre — the met is able to investigate and reform itself? and in dover ethev're— and reform itself? and in dover , they're building— and reform itself? and in dover , they're building temporary marquees because they're ereeeddee— marquees because they're expecting even- marquees because they're expecting even more travel chaos this expecting even more travel chaos dbderreebeed. — expecting even more travel chaos this weekend. of— expecting even more travel chaos this weekend. cj�*" ririrc. this weekend. of course they are. it's easter. we'll be talking about the great easter travel getaway . plus, we've got travel getaway. plus, we've got carole malone going to be in the studio and also joanna williams,

two of our favourites. but first of all, two of our favourites. but first ed dd bere— two of our favourites. but first of all, here are— two of our favourites. but first of all, here are your- of all, here are your news beedddeee— of all, here are your news headlines with- of all, here are your news headlines with rihanna . headlines with rihanna. thank you.— headlines with rihanna. thank red. bede— headlines with rihanna. thank your eedb. deed— headlines with rihanna. thank you, beth. good morning. it's 10:01. your top stories from the gb newsroom counter—terrorism officers , along with those who officers, along with those who tackle serious organised crime, have been drafted in to help clean up the met police workforce. commissioner sir mark rowley believes there are hundreds of corrupt officers who shouldn't be in the job and he wants to weed them out of more than 1000 cases, nearly 700 will be reassessed , with almost 200 be reassessed, with almost 200 referred to formal risk management or vetting . figures management or vetting. figures also reveal 161 serving met officers have criminal convictions . former scottish convictions. former scottish first minister nicola sturgeon has pulled out of a climate change event this evening after her husband was released from custody without charge. the home of ms. sturgeon and the former

snp chief executive remains cordoned off pending further investigation. peter murrell was arrested as part of a probe into snp finances including £600,000 set aside for scotland's independence campaign. ms. sturgeon insists she had no pnor sturgeon insists she had no prior knowledge of police plans or intentions ahead of her resignation in february . sir resignation in february. sir keir starmer has promised to introduce specialist rape courts if labour wins the next election . it comes amid a record backlog erg in the courts, which sees victims face an average three year wait for justice. government analysis shows the number of rape survivors dropping their cases has more than doubled since 2015. sir keir has described the state of the justice system under the conservatives as a national scandal . new research has found scandal. new research has found more than 45,000 burglaries reported last year were unattended by police in england. data obtained by the lib dems

shows more than 120 break ins a day took place without an officer visiting the scene. 75% officer visiting the scene. 75% of cases were found to be closed without identifying a suspect . without identifying a suspect. the parties referred to it as a postcode lottery and is calling for officers to be legally required to visit victims . required to visit victims. drivers face major travel disruption over the easter weekend, with up to 17 million cars predicted to hit the road. research by the rac shows 2.7 million carjourneys are million car journeys are expected on both good friday and easter sunday. rail engineering work , including the closure of work, including the closure of london, euston station all weekend, will make the roads even busier. travel expert simon calder told us it's the wrong time to be carrying out rail works. it's time to be carrying out rail works . it's really odd that works. it's really odd that dree— works. it's really odd that given deed— works. it's really odd that given that the— it's really odd that given that the railway , which is given that the railway, which is of course, as we— given that the railway, which is of course, as we have talked ebedd— of course, as we have talked ebedd many— of course, as we have talked about many times in desperate ededee— about many times in desperate ededee de— about many times in desperate states in terms— about many times in desperate states in terms of— about many times in desperate states in terms of losing one dbde— states in terms of losing one ddddb ed— states in terms of losing one ddddb ed dde— states in terms of losing one fifth of its passenger numbers ,

fifth of its passenger numbers, deer-re— fifth of its passenger numbers, they've desperately get people beed.— they've desperately get people beed. ded— they've desperately get people beed. eed ee— they've desperately get people back. and so what do they do? bedd— back. and so what do they do? rredd deer— back. and so what do they do? well they close— back. and so what do they do? well they close everything down reeder— well they close everything down over easter so— well they close everything down over easter so that— well they close everything down over easter so that exactly the beede— over easter so that exactly the people deer— over easter so that exactly the people deer eeed— over easter so that exactly the people they need to attract beede— people they need to attract people rrbe— people they need to attract people who are— people they need to attract people who are thinking, okay, redd— people who are thinking, okay, rredd. r-dd— people who are thinking, okay, well, i'll switch _ people who are thinking, okay, well, i'll switch from road to red— well, i'll switch from road to redd .— well, i'll switch from road to red . reed— well, i'll switch from road to rail . just look— well, i'll switch from road to rail . just look at— well, i'll switch from road to rail . just look at it and just rail. just look at it and just dbeb.— rail. just look at it and just dbeb. redd— rail. just look at it and just think, well, i'm— rail. just look at it and just think, well, i'm not going to bedder— think, well, i'm not going to bother with— think, well, i'm not going to bother with that. it looks an ebeeddde— bother with that. it looks an absolute mess— bother with that. it looks an absolute mess . - bother with that. it looks an absolute mess . g absolute mess. the government's approved . a £48 million fund to approved. a £48 million fund to make england's most dangerous roads safer. the money will go towards improving signage and road markings, as well as reducing congestion and emissions. allocated zones of which roads will receive the funding are based on data by the road safety foundation on the number of people killed and traffic levels. parliament under secretary of state for roads and local transport richard holden told us they're trying to tackle the 27 worst roads around the country. this the 27 worst roads around the country . this money is going to country. this money is going to reddr— country. this money is going to reddr eede— country. this money is going to really help save— country. this money is going to really help save lives- ririrc. this money is going to really help save lives as well . really help save lives as well. rre— really help save lives as well. be eeddmede— really help save lives as well. we estimate around 750 fatal or serious injuries— we estimate around 750 fatal or serious injuries will be erereeded— serious injuries will be prevented over the next 20 years by dbde— prevented over the next 20 years by this investment— prevented over the next 20 years

by this investment alongside drdrer— by this investment alongside driver behaviour. actually, some of driver behaviour. actually, some ed beee— driver behaviour. actually, some of these junctions— driver behaviour. actually, some of these junctions and these reed— of these junctions and these road surfaces— of these junctions and these road surfaces are some of the mid— road surfaces are some of the mder deedee— road surfaces are some of the major issues we see when we're dedee— major issues we see when we're drrdee de— major issues we see when we're rrrbe de deedde— major issues we see when we're trying to tackle issues around reed— trying to tackle issues around reed eededr— trying to tackle issues around reed eededr de— trying to tackle issues around road safety in the country . road safety in the country. rdddddeee— road safety in the country. millions of— road safety in the country. millions of mobile phones across the millions of mobile phones across dbe db— millions of mobile phones across dbe db rrddd— millions of mobile phones across the uk will sound— millions of mobile phones across the uk will sound an alarm this meede— the uk will sound an alarm this meedb de— the uk will sound an alarm this meedb de e— the uk will sound an alarm this month in a new— the uk will sound an alarm this month in a new test to warn the edbdde— month in a new test to warn the edbdde ed— month in a new test to warn the public of danger— month in a new test to warn the public of danger ._ month in a new test to warn the public of danger. _ month in a new test to warn the public of danger. the alert eredem — public of danger. the alert system is intended for use in life threatening situations, including flooding and wildfires. the message will come through at 3 p.m. on the 23rd of april and will also vibrate for up to ten seconds. the test scheduled for saint george's day clashes with major events including the london marathon and premier league matches . and premier league matches. hundreds of patients with breast and prostate cancer could benefit from a new drug. the nhs approved tablet olaparib prevents cancerous cells from repairing their dna, causing them to die . men with advanced

them to die. men with advanced prostate cancer and women with early breast cancer at high risk of the disease returning will be able to access it through nhs england. the institute of cancer research has called the decision life changing, saying research has called the decision life changing , saying the life changing, saying the medicine gives patients a chance to live longer and healthier lives . and the us president has lives. and the us president has accepted an invite from the king for a state visit to the uk. the white house says joe biden had a very friendly chat with the king over the phone. the president's due to visit northern ireland and the republic next week, but won't attend the coronation in may. be represented may. he'll be represented instead by his wife, jill . this instead by his wife, jill. this is gb news. we'll bring you more as it happens. now, though, it's back to andrew and. bev before. i'm just very intrigued by dbde— before. i'm just very intrigued by dbde edere— before. i'm just very intrigued by this store in— before. i'm just very intrigued by this store in the— ”iii: i'm just very intrigued by this store in the front of dbe— by this store in the front of dbe r— by this store in the front of dbe r bed. — by this store in the front of the r bed. no—

by this store in the front of the i bed. no new smart mederrere— the i bed. no new smart motorways because of the fact deed— motorways because of the fact deed deer-re— motorways because of the fact that they're dangerous. they're damaging— that they're dangerous. they're demeedee de— that they're dangerous. they're demeedee db de— that they're dangerous. they're damaging up to nine people died on damaging up to nine people died ee emerd— damaging up to nine people died on smart motorway. these were the on smart motorway. these were dbe brddddeed— on smart motorway. these were the brilliant idea— on smart motorway. these were the brilliant idea of the government— the brilliant idea of the government who thought, let's get government who thought, let's eed rdd— government who thought, let's eed rdd ed— government who thought, let's eed rdd ed dbe— government who thought, let's get rid of the hard shoulder so dreddde— get rid of the hard shoulder so dreddde eee— get rid of the hard shoulder so traffic can smooth— get rid of the hard shoulder so traffic can smooth , move more traffic can smooth, move more ederrdr— traffic can smooth, move more slowly mere— traffic can smooth, move more slowly, move more— traffic can smooth, move more slowly, move more quickly . and slowly, move more quickly. and rreed— slowly, move more quickly. and reed—reede- slowly, move more quickly. and what—people who i slowly, move more quickly. and. what—people who were what happened? people who were brebe— what happened? people who were brebe derm— what happened? people who were brebe derre ee— what happened? people who were broke down no longer in a hard ebeddder— broke down no longer in a hard shoulder were— broke down no longer in a hard shoulder were struck by the car. so shoulder were struck by the car. so ddeddr— shoulder were struck by the car. be finally rm— shoulder were struck by the car. so finally, i'm so— shoulder were struck by the car. so finally, i'm so pleased- shoulder were struck by the car. so finally, i'm so pleased .- shoulder were struck by the car. so finally, i'm so pleased. it is a bit of good news. yeah, it's good news. maybe we'll discuss when carol discuss this when we have carol maloney williams in maloney and joanna williams in the this morning. the studio with us this morning. we're talking the we're also talking about the metropolitan _ we're also talking about the metropolitan police. so 200 bedee— metropolitan police. so 200 police officers— metropolitan police. so 200 police officers with past accusations— police officers with past accusations or accusations of sex crimes or demeedde— accusations of sex crimes or domestic-need- accusations of sex crimes or. domestic-need.urgent domestic abuse need an urgent rder— domestic abuse need an urgent deb—eere- risk assessment, says the commissioner.— risk assessment, says the commissioner. still commissioner. why are they still beddee—bded- commissioner. why are they still beddee—bded ed- police officers? you kind of bere— police officers? you kind of bere de— police officers? you kind of have to read— police officers? you kind of have to read that twice to dbeb.— have to read that twice to bed — have to read that twice to bed re— have to read that twice to think. is that— have to read that twice to think. cc.ri7 they're all think. is that true? they're all did— think. is that true? they're all edddd beddee— think. is that true? they're all still police officers— think. cc.ri7 they're all still police officers and deer-re— still police officers and- they're—reviewed they're going to be reviewed eree-dber-re- they're going to be reviewed even -they've all- they're going to be reviewed even they've all these even though they've all these misdemeanours_ misdemeanours on their on their derrdbde— misdemeanours on their on their derrdbdeldbe— misdemeanours on their on their terrible the already under terrible so the already under dbe— terrible so the already under ddre deree— terrible so the already under fire force continues its blitz to fire force continues its blitz de—eddddre.- fire force continues its blitz de—eddddre. - fire force continues its blitz- to_culture. hundreds to change its culture. hundreds more and staff are more officers and staff are having allegations having old allegations re—examined. our paul re—examined. our reporter paul beedee.— re—examined. our reporter paul berrbdee be-e— re—examined. our reporter paul hawkins, he's at— ”c; ri;,b

hawkins, he's at scotland yard eed dedd— hawkins, he's at scotland yard and can tell us— hawkins, he's at scotland yard and can tell us more. paul yeah . morningr— and can tell us more. paul yeah . morning, andrew.— and can tell us more. paul yeah . morning, andrew. morning, bev. so this follows on from the casey report follows on from the david carrick issue. also. wayne cousins, etcetera. the casey report saying that the met police was institutionally racist, homophobic , racist, homophobic, misogynistic. and then you remember back in january, mark rowley , the boss of the met rowley, the boss of the met police, then launching this investigation, over a thousand people investigated and previously investigated for domestic violence and sexual abuse. they are being reinvest. and he now says that 4 in 5 of more than 1000 cases now need to be reassessed or re—investigated. and in fact, 90 officers have been moved from fighting serious and organised crime to the met's professional standards team. so this is part of an update from mark rowley writing to the mayor of london, sadiq khan, writing to the home secretary suella braverman. let's just go through some of these statistics he's these statistics that he's updated in his letter then. so

1131 individuals have been rhiannon estimated 246 will face no formal action because correct action was taken at the time. 689 will undergo a new assessment to pursue new or missing lines of inquiry three, including possibly talking again to victims and witnesses . 196 to victims and witnesses. 196 face formal risk management measures and potentially a review to determine if they should remain in the force. now, he also mentioned in his letter that 161 met officers have criminal convictions. of these 76 for serious traffic offences such as drink driving, 49 are for dishonesty or violence . for dishonesty or violence. eight committed the offences while they were serving in the met. three have convictions for sexual offences now mark rowley also said that the force is going through all 50,000 of its staff. it's been through 10,000 of them already, checking them against the police national database . and of those 10,038 database. and of those 10,038 potential cases of misconduct ,

potential cases of misconduct, 55 cases of off duty association with a criminal. he's saying in the next six months, up to 100 officers may have to leave the organisation. it could be hundreds over the next 2 to 3 years. and he's considering banning anyone with convictions other than the most minor from the force. of course, all of this designed to re—instill trust public trust in the metropolitan police it of course police in this country they police in this country they police by consent. they need that trust . and in fact, a bbc that trust. and in fact, a bbc yougov survey out today says that almost half of women totally distrusted the met. so all of this designed to re—instill public confidence, pubuc re—instill public confidence, public trust in the metropolitan police. but listening to the chairman of london's police and crime committee, susan hall, this morning, she was commenting on sir mark's findings. she said that things going to get that things are going to get much worse before they get better. paul bevan i are shaking her head in disbelief to hear that police officers with that three police officers with convictions for sexual offences are still serving police officers. how come ? yeah, well

officers. how come? yeah, well that's, that's part of this review. you know , mark rowley review. you know, mark rowley has said that not only are they going to weed these people out of the force and it is going to take a long time. you're going to keep hearing these stories trickling through in the news about officers that have been that that are being forced that are that are being forced out of the met, but they're also tightening vetting tightening up the vetting procedure. so these kind of people don't up serving in people don't end up serving in the again, it's all it's the met again, it's all it's going to be. it's going to get a lot more difficult for the met before it gets better. and this is all part of reinvigorating the trust. mark has the trust. and mark rowley has been about it, saying been very open about it, saying that, i've had to that, look, i've had to move police fighting terrorism police from fighting terrorism and into and serious organised crime into this professional this director of professional standards to try and clean up the met because there's no point in trying to fight crime if the pubuc in trying to fight crime if the public think, don't public don't think, don't have trust in us, don't have confidence in us to do it in the first place. so clean up the met first place. so clean up the met first and then they can fight organised better. and organised crime better. and don't met police don't forget, the met police relies public well to

relies on the public as well to supply them with information in to help them keep the public safe place. okay. safe in the first place. okay. thank you, paul. _ safe in the first place. okay.l thank you, paul. - hawkins safe in the first place. okay.- thank you, paul. -hawkins do thank you, paul. paul hawkins do you thank you, paul. paul hawkins do red-rreed— thank you, paul. paul hawkins do red-reed rm— thank you, paul. paul hawkins do you-what i'm also- thank you, paul. paul hawkins do you what i'm also thinking? you know what i'm also thinking? be-e— you know what i'm also thinking? bee-mede— you know what i'm also thinking? be-e-mde e— you know what i'm also thinking? he's make a fortune out he's going to make a fortune out of he's going to make a fortune out ed dbde. — he's going to make a fortune out ed be me— he's going to make a fortune out of this. the employment lawyers, bedee— of this. the employment lawyers, beeedeeeerr-— of this. the employment lawyers, because-now, if— of this. the employment lawyers, because - now, if you - because right now, if you are eee-beddee- because right now, if you are one police officers one of these police officers and you— one of these police officers and rerrbe—- one of these police officers and redrree— dedd- you said, well, it was dealt rrbe— you said, well, it was dealt rrddbldbe— you said, well, it was dealt with .the time,- you said, well, it was dealt with the time, i've kept my with at the time, i've kept my job,— with at the time, i've kept my job eerr— with at the time, i've kept my jobr red-re— with at the time, i've kept my job, now you're going to get the eeeb. — job, now you're going to get the eeeb. deed— job, now you're going to get the sack. that doesn't— job, now you're going to get the sack. that doesn't fill us with eeedddeeee— sack. that doesn't fill us with confidence -and - sack. that doesn't fill us with i confidence -and they're confidence either. and they're taking they've 100 taking they've removed 100 police in the war against frontline in the war against terror. yes really important to deal to deal with this. oh, deal with to deal with this. oh, it is a flipping shambles, isn't it? it's a shambles. wonder it? it's a shambles. no wonder women trust women in particular don't trust the to learn that the police force to learn that three have got three police officers have got convicted for sexual offences and they're still wearing the uniform. 1131 still in there rrbe— uniform. 1131 still in there ebb-eeme— uniform. 1131 still in there with-some sort- with with some sort of conviction _ with with some sort of conviction .- with with some sort of conviction . but it why conviction. but it also why rreeed— conviction. but it also why rreeed dd— conviction. but it also why rreeed dd rrbr— conviction. but it also why wasn't it why weren't these dedd— wasn't it why weren't these deedd rrbe— wasn't it why weren't these dealt with properly at the time eered— dealt with properly at the time eerrer d— dealt with properly at the time eerrer e de— dealt with properly at the time anyway ? no doubt that will not anyway? no doubt that will not be dbe— anyway? no doubt that will not be dbe deed— anyway? no doubt that will not be the last we _ anyway? no doubt that will not be the last we hear about that. so be the last we hear about that. be merdee— be the last we hear about that. be merdee ee— be the last we hear about that. so moving on, conservative mp seedd— so moving on, conservative mp seedd beedee.— so moving on, conservative mp scott benton, you— so moving on, conservative mp scott benton, you not have scott benton, you may not have bedd— scott benton, you may not have beard-bed— scott benton, you may not have beard-bed bede- scott benton, you may not have heard but he's been heard of him, but he's been deereddbdr— heard of him, but he's been incredibly naughty he's the incredibly naughty. he's had the party— incredibly naughty. he's had the beer-edeeeeded- incredibly naughty. he's had the beer-edeeeeded .- incredibly naughty. he's had the party suspended . that means incredibly naughty. he's had the paican't suspended . that means incredibly naughty. he's had the paican't actuallynded . that means incredibly naughty. he's had the paican't actually representtt means incredibly naughty. he's had the paican't actually represent the eans he can't actually represent the party— he can't actually represent the eerdr eemerer — he can't actually represent the party anymore. he's not he's not

deed— party anymore. he's not he's not deed ede— party anymore. he's not he's not deed bde deb— party anymore. he's not he's not lost his job yet. _ party anymore. he's not he's not lost his job yet. ri; cc lost his job yet. he's still an mp. he still gets his pay of £84,000, but he's operate £84,000, but he's has to operate as effectively an independent as effectively as an independent . that's right. so he filmed . that's right. so he was filmed edderdee— . that's right. so he was filmed edderdee de— . that's right. so he was filmed offering to -the _ that's right. so he was filmed offering to the gambling offering to help the gambling deddedrr— offering to help the gambling industry exchange for industry in exchange for ddeeeedd— industry in exchange for financial-it. industry in exchange fori financial-it was industry in exchange for- financial-it was an financial reward. it was an undercover by times. undercover sting by the times. it revealed benton, who's the mp for black pearl south, was ready to leak market sensitive information an investment information to an investment fund involved gambling fund involved in the gambling industry parliamentary industry and asked parliamentary questions on their questions on behalf on their behalf in breach of parliamentary effectively parliamentary rules, effectively asking questions. asking cash for questions. earlier spoke to tory mp earlier we spoke to tory mp deberd— earlier we spoke to tory mp richard holden,— earlier we spoke to tory mp richard holden, who had this to eer.— richard holden, who had this to say-ithink— richard holden, who had this to eer-ldbdeb dd-e— richard holden, who had this to say. think it's quite right say. i think it's quite right deed— say. i think it's quite right deed dd-e— say. i think it's quite right that it's been— say. i think it's quite right that it's been referred to the parliamentary— that it's been referred to the parliamentary commissioner for sdeederde. — parliamentary commissioner for standards. the— parliamentary commissioner for standards. c standards. the government toughened rules not that toughened the rules not that long to say that people long ago to say that people couldn't lobbying for couldn't do paid lobbying for companies and furthermore , he's companies and furthermore, he's also the chief whip , suspended also the chief whip, suspended the whip from mr. benton yesterday and one of the things we've been putting pressure on over the last few years is for a proper review of the 2005 gambling act, which was passed by the last labour government, because one of things which because one of the things which wasn't really

wasn't looked at or really understood was understood at the time was issues online gambling. issues around online gambling. this one is very serious and this one is, is very serious and that's why the that's why the party has moved very swiftly to suspend the whip and also it's been referred to the parliamentary commissioner for standards. i think that's exactly what was the right thing to do . so with us this morning to do. so with us this morning is to do. so with us this morning de beed— to do. so with us this morning de beed ed— to do. so with us this morning is head of digital— r:rir so with us this morning is head of digital news at gb dere— is head of digital news at gb derre bee— is head of digital news at gb news, dan falvey. good morning, bee.— news, dan falvey. good morning, bee. derr— news, dan falvey. good morning, bee. derr. eddy.— news, dan falvey. good morning, dan. now, oddly, this story has dee— dan. now, oddly, this story has edee eeded— dan. now, oddly, this story has edee eeded de— dan. now, oddly, this story has also ended up at— dan. now, oddly, this story has also ended up at our door. why? it also ended up at our door. why? rd eerddedr— also ended up at our door. why? it certainly has.— also ended up at our door. why? it certainly has. so— also ended up at our door. why? it certainly has. so when- also ended up at our door. why? it certainly has. so when the- it certainly has. so when the times did this investigation, scott benton wasn't the only conservative mp they approached. they also approached gb news own philip davies and he looked into this and thought the whole thing seemed a bit fishy. so he teamed up with gb news investigates reporter charlie peters and they actually went to try and sting the sting. they went undercover themselves, clever as they went to this event and basically said , look, we're not going to do anything improper here. we're not interested. but i think what was interesting about this is what really came out of it was

that when phil davies asked the undercover of times, reporters have you been speaking to other mps said, we've spoken to mps and said, we've spoken to several i think several other mps. so i think this is a story to watch this space. where it goes. space. let's see where it goes. if scott benton, the only one here, or given that what we uncovered in that undercover filming, there more filming, could there be more stories in days stories that come in the days ahead ? fascinating. do you think ahead? fascinating. do you think deer— ahead? fascinating. do you think deer edr— ahead? fascinating. do you think deer eedr dedd— ahead? fascinating. do you think deer eedr ddb de— ahead? fascinating. do you think they only talk to tory— :7 fascinating. do you think they only talk to tory mps as part— they only talk to tory mps as eerd ed— they only talk to tory mps as eerd ed dbe— they only talk to tory mps as part of the sting?— they only talk to tory mps as part of the sting? well, government— part of the sting? well, government party, it's interesting— government party, it's interesting because it was tory rrre— interesting because it was tory rrre-deee— interesting because it was tory rrre-deee deed— interesting because it was tory mps-done just a- interesting because it was tory mps done just a few weeks mps got done just a few weeks ago— mps got done just a few weeks eee-ded— mps got done just a few weeks eeelded br— mps got done just a few weeks ago led by donkeys, led by ago as led by donkeys, led by bedere. — ago as led by donkeys, led by beebere. d— ago as led by donkeys, led by donkeys. a left— ago as led by donkeys, led by donkeys. a left wing- donkeys. a left wing organisation very much organisation went to very much targeting i targeting conservative mps and i think there will be, you know, plenty viewers asking why plenty of our viewers asking why is conservative mps who keep is it conservative mps who keep getting position, getting put in this position, they governing party. they are the governing party. but you know, we've got a labour party looks like it could party that looks like it could be the next government and they could you know, could also be, you know, susceptible in dying susceptible to this in the dying months, embers the last months, embers of the last labour three former months, embers of the last labour cabinet three former months, embers of the last labour cabinet ministers; former months, embers of the last labour cabinet ministers wereier labour cabinet ministers were stung the way. stung in exactly the same way. patricia hewitt, jack straw and deed— patricia hewitt, jack straw and deed beee.— patricia hewitt, jack straw and geoff hoon, former defence eeerederr. — geoff hoon, former defence secretary. none— geoff hoon, former defence secretary. none of them got the

eeereeee— secretary. none of them got the eeereeee deer— secretary. none of them got the peerages they thought they would be eedddded— peerages they thought they would be entitled to— peerages they thought they would be entitled to because they were eebdeed— be entitled to because they were eebdeed-eed— be entitled to because they were cabinet- and they - cabinet ministers and they all dedd— cabinet ministers and they all dedd-rddm — cabinet ministers and they all fell-film saying- cabinet ministers and they all fell-film saying i- cabinet ministers and they all fell film saying i can fell for it. film saying i can but— fell for it. film saying i can put-questions- fell for it. film saying i can. eed-edeeddeee-eer put the questions in if you pay me a-amount of- put the questions in if you pay me a amount of money and me a certain amount of money and eereeee— me a certain amount of money and eereeee dbde— me a certain amount of money and perhaps this-what's— me a certain amount of money and perhaps this what's going on perhaps this is what's going on bere.— perhaps this is what's going on here-thinking- perhaps this is what's going on here. thinking we're here. tory mps thinking we're eemdee— here. tory mps thinking we're eemdee-eed— here. tory mps thinking we're coming-end of- here. tory mps thinking we're coming end of the road. coming to the end of the road. deer-re— coming to the end of the road. eberre-de— coming to the end of the road. they've-in power- coming to the end of the road. they've in power for a long they've been in power for a long ddme— they've been in power for a long be dbde— they've been in power for a long time. this place— they've been in power for a long time. this place is— they've been in power for a long time. this place is going to deee— time. this place is going to deee e— time. this place is going to lose a-anyway.-it| time. this place is going to. lose a .anyway. -it for lose a seat anyway. why it for dbe— lose a seat anyway. why it for dbe dbed— lose a seat anyway. why it for the first time— lose a seat anyway. why it for the first time in— lose a seat anyway. why it for the first time in 2019. so he's deee— the first time in 2019. so he's ereee ee— the first time in 2019. so he's ereee ee redd— the first time in 2019. so he's green as well as— the first time in 2019. so he's green as well as stupid? �*vdrd�*ricc green as well as stupid? well, i dbeb— green as well as stupid? well, i dbeb-dedee— green as well as stupid? well, i think thing that, you know think one thing that, you know labour should careful labour party should be careful of is they've out saying, of is they've been out saying, you this is absolutely you know, this is absolutely disgraceful, etcetera. but their own could be this they own mps could be doing this they don't about. and that don't know about. and that is not to question integrity of not to question the integrity of the party leadership, but not to question the integrity of this party leadership, but not to question the integrity of this the party leadership, but not to question the integrity of this the question.eadership, but not to question the integrity of this the question what'ship, but not to question the integrity of this the question what somebut not to question the integrity of this the question what some of: it is the question what some of their own backbenchers may be doing. so you've got be a bit doing. so you've got to be a bit careful when start, careful when they start, you know, mud in one know, slinging the mud in one direction because they find direction because they may find mud face well. are mud on their face as well. are we going to see this film- i“c.r: rib“ . i are we going to see this film with red— we going to see this film with dedd-eeme— we going to see this film with phil-some point?- we going to see this film with phil some point? we see phil davis at some point? we see bere— phil davis at some point? we see dbere de— phil davis at some point? we see dbere de e— phil davis at some point? we see there is a package— phil davis at some point? we see there is a package that is erddebde— there is a package that is available-our- there is a package that is available our youtube and on available on our youtube and on our available on our youtube and on rrebedde— available on our youtube and on rrebeddelr-m— available on our youtube and on our website, i'm we'll our website, and i'm sure we'll be playing it through the day. beed.— be playing it through the day. bdebd. ded— be playing it through the day. bdgbd. eed ddm— be playing it through the day. right. and i'm sure— be playing it through the day. right. and i'm sure phil- be playing it through the day. right. and i'm sure phil will be talking it when he's on talking about it when he's on air esther time air with esther at this time tomorrow his mrs. on gb

tomorrow with his mrs. on gb news. ithink going tomorrow with his mrs. on gb news. i think going to news. i think he's going to eeed— news. i think he's going to erred-dee— news. i think he's going to speak-too. us— news. i think he's going to speak .too. us we- b i think he's going to speak too. us we him speak to too. us we got him as red.— speak to too. us we got him as red. bede— speak to too. us we got him as red. bee-de— speak to too. us we got him as well. he's-to give- speak to too. us we got him as well. he's to give us a well. he's going to give us a eeed— well. he's going to give us a sneak preview.— well. he's going to give us a sneak preview. so well done. reed— sneak preview. so well done. reed-eed— sneak preview. so well done. reed-eedirddde- sneak preview. so well done. l just-not.mps-led just shows not all mps are led by just shows not all mps are led br-eeee— just shows not all mps are led br-eeee eed— just shows not all mps are led by nose and greed. by their nose and greed. dbeedddedr— by their nose and greed. absolutely because that's what by their nose and greed. abs about. because that's what by their nose and greed. abs about. yeah,ise that's what by their nose and greed. absabout. yeah, absolutely. at it's about. yeah, absolutely. ded— it's about. yeah, absolutely. bed-deem— it's about. yeah, absolutely. not-them know- it's about. yeah, absolutely. not-them know quite. it's about. yeah, absolutely. j not-them know quite a it's about. yeah, absolutely. not them know quite a lot not all of them know quite a lot of get the of them. you do get the impression are just impression that they are just filling suitcases cash filling suitcases with cash at the moment, aren't you? before they the horizon. they run out into the horizon. exactly to exactly anyway. right. still to come, house in exactly anyway. right. still to con uk house in exactly anyway. right. still to conuk has house in exactly anyway. right. still to conuk has increasedruse in exactly anyway. right. still to conuk has increased yet in exactly anyway. right. still to conuk has increased yet again. n the uk has increased yet again. that's right. we'll tell you by what amount. this

channel it's 1021. dbemed— - it's 1021. you're channel it's 1021. you're with the point on - it's 1021. you're with the| point on _andrew point on gb news with andrew rderee— point on gb news with andrew rderee eed— point on gb news with andrew pierce and bev— point on gb news with andrew pierce and bev turner. so erereee— pierce and bev turner. so erereee-erdeeel pierce and bev turner. so. average-prices have average uk house prices have risen for the third month in a row on an annual basis . house row on an annual basis. house pnces row on an annual basis. house prices were 1.6% higher than a year ago, slowing from 2.1% in february. but what does this all actually mean for you and your finances? joining us is our very own economics and business editor liam halligan, as well as the independent north london estate owner jeremy estate agency owner jeremy leafe. good morning to you both.

to you both. liam, we keep waiting for this house market crash that everyone's talking about. it's not coming. i suppose. about. it's not coming. i suppose . well, that is good suppose. well, that is good news. well it depends if you're a house owner, of course it's good news if you're somebody trying to get on the housing ladder or your kids trying to buy house. it's difficult. buy a house. it's so difficult. beee— buy a house. it's so difficult. dbeee dere— buy a house. it's so difficult. dbeee dere. d— buy a house. it's so difficult. these days. a lot— buy a house. it's so difficult. these days. a lot of- it's so difficult. these days. a lot of people are eeddddr— these days. a lot of people are actually waiting— these days. a lot of people are actually waiting house these days. a lot of people are actua crash. ting house these days. a lot of people are actuacrash. itig house these days. a lot of people are actuacrash. it is house these days. a lot of people are actuacrash. it is the house these days. a lot of people are actuacrash. it is the third se price crash. it is the third rdee— price crash. it is the third de— price crash. it is the third de e— price crash. it is the third rise in a row— price crash. it is the third rise in a row .— price crash. it is the third rise in a row. house prices are de— rise in a row. house prices are re bigber%_ rise in a row. house prices are now 1.6 higher% higher than they de redee— now 1.6 higher% higher than they were in march 2022. the average bedee— were in march 2022. the average bedee de— were in march 2022. the average house is £287,880,— were in march 2022. the average house is £287,880, compared . to house is £287,880, compared. to embed— house is £287,880, compared. to ezebeeo de— house is £287,880, compared. to £285,660 in february . and i £285,660 in february. and i dbeb— £285,660 in february. and i think what's— £285,660 in february. and i think what's going on here is deed— think what's going on here is deed dbe— think what's going on here is that the housing— think what's going on here is that the housing market is being beed— that the housing market is being beed beereed— that the housing market is being beed beereed by— that the housing market is being kept buoyant by the fundamental dederedeedr— kept buoyant by the fundamental dederedeedr ed— kept buoyant by the fundamental undersupply of houses in this eededrr— undersupply of houses in this eededrr .— undersupply of houses in this country , which— undersupply of houses in this country , which i've talked to country, which i've talked to eed— country, which i've talked to eed rrrdddee — country, which i've talked to and written about a lot over the reere— and written about a lot over the reere bed— and written about a lot over the reere bdd dee— and written about a lot over the years, but also what's happening . deedde— years, but also what's happening , even though the— years, but also what's happening , even though the bank of dedeed— , even though the bank of dedeed de— , even though the bank of england is raising interest redee— england is raising interest redee eed— england is raising interest rates and there may be another increase -they're - increase to come, they're edrreeddr— increase to come, they're currently at _ increase to come, they're currently at 4.25. of course, we've - rises in - currently at 4.25. of course, we've-rises in a- currently at 4.25. of course, we've rises in a row . we've had 11 rises in a row. derdeeee— we've had 11 rises in a row. mortgage rates— we've had 11 rises in a row. mortgage rates are actually eemdee— mortgage rates are actually eemdee eerre.— mortgage rates are actually coming down. yeah, during the

mded—bedeed— coming down. yeah, during the mini—budget, all— coming down. yeah, during the mini—budget, all the aftermath, the mini—budget, all the aftermath, dbe marked— mini—budget, all the aftermath, the market turmoil, mortgage dee— the market turmoil, mortgage dee dee— the market turmoil, mortgage rates, the average mortgage rate on rates, the average mortgage rate ee e be— rates, the average mortgage rate ee e drre reer— rates, the average mortgage rate on a two year fix— rates, the average mortgage rate on a two year fix was up above ede— on a two year fix was up above ede bedee— on a two year fix was up above 6% because the— on a two year fix was up above 6% because the money markets bere— 6% because the money markets bere edmed— 6% because the money markets have calmed down— 6% because the money markets have calmed down because there's a have calmed down because there's e be— have calmed down because there's e bdd mere— have calmed down because there's a bit more political— have calmed down because there's a bit more political stability, bedee— a bit more political stability, because international investors reed— because international investors aren't questioning the uk's eedreeer— aren't questioning the uk's eedreeer eeme— aren't questioning the uk's solvency going forward . an solvency going forward. an erereee— solvency going forward. an erereee dre— solvency going forward. an average two year fix is down beder— average two year fix is down bederr 5%_ average two year fix is down below 5% from _ average two year fix is down below 5% from above 6. that's beeeeeed— below 5% from above 6. that's beeeeeed de— below 5% from above 6. that's happened in recent months. it's edde— happened in recent months. it's eddde eerd— happened in recent months. it's dedde eerd de— happened in recent months. it's quite hard to get— happened in recent months. it's quite hard to get your head reed— quite hard to get your head reed ded— quite hard to get your head around. and because people think that around. and because people think deed dbe— around. and because people think deed dbe beed— around. and because people think that the bank of— around. and because people think that the bank of england will edee— that the bank of england will edee rdedee— that the bank of england will stop raising interest rates soon eed— stop raising interest rates soon eed-redee— stop raising interest rates soon eed-redee mer- stop raising interest rates soon and rates may even come and interest rates may even come dere— and interest rates may even come derre. rre— and interest rates may even come derre. rre bed— and interest rates may even come derre. rre bed ee— and interest rates may even come down, we had an mpc member last edged— down, we had an mpc member last edged ddbdee— down, we had an mpc member last night talking about— down, we had an mpc member last night talking about that. one of the economists— night talking about that. one of the economists from the bank of dedeed— the economists from the bank of dedeed eerdee— the economists from the bank of england saying that she thinks dedereed— england saying that she thinks interest rates— england saying that she thinks interest rates may start interest rates may come start eemdee— interest rates may come start coming-quicker- interest rates may come start coming quicker than we coming down quicker than we dbeb.— coming down quicker than we dbeb—eed- coming down quicker than we think._end of- coming down quicker than we think._end of the| think. so the long end of the eerre.— think. so the long end of the eerre. dd— think. so the long end of the eerre. dd red— think. so the long end of the curve, if you like— think. so the long end of the curve, if you like to use eeeemded— curve, if you like to use economist jargon, where the merdeeee— economist jargon, where the mortgage suppliers buy the money to mortgage suppliers buy the money de-deed— mortgage suppliers buy the money de-deed de— mortgage suppliers buy the money de-deed de dbe— mortgage suppliers buy the money to lend us the money, the to then lend us the money, the meeere— to then lend us the money, the meeer-elbdd— to then lend us the money, the money's bit cheaper here. and money's a bit cheaper here. and deed— money's a bit cheaper here. and deed deber— money's a bit cheaper here. and that lower mortgage costs eemeered— that lower mortgage costs eemeered de— that lower mortgage costs compared to where people thought it compared to where people thought dd redd— compared to where people thought dd rreddd be— compared to where people thought dd rreddd be e— compared to where people thought it would be a few— compared to where people thought it would be a few months ago, deed-e— it would be a few months ago, deed-e keeping— it would be a few months ago, that's keeping house prices bdereed. — that's keeping house prices buoyant. .bring- that's keeping house prices

buoyant. .bring leaf buoyant. let's bring jeremy leaf into conversation. jeremy, you've more you've been an estate agent more than very than 30 years. you're very thriving business, particularly in london. i keep reading in north london. i keep reading house prices are down and house prices are going down and then official figures then we get the official figures saying they're saying they're not. they're going up. what's going on here? we right ? we get this all the time right? red— we get this all the time right? red-dbe— we get this all the time right? you the journalists often you see, the journalists often pick— you see, the journalists often edeblee— you see, the journalists often pick-on-negative- you see, the journalists often pick on negative side of pick up on the negative side of the pick up on the negative side of dbe-rredd— pick up on the negative side of the-well where's- pick up on the negative side of the well where's we're at the story. well where's we're at the story. well where's we're at dbe-eed— the story. well where's we're at dbe-eed .— the story. well where's we're at the-end . we're- the story. well where's we're at the-end . we're on- the story. well where's we're at the end . we're on the high the sharp end. we're on the high breed.— the sharp end. we're on the high sdreed. rde-re— the sharp end. we're on the high street. we're seeing buyers and eeddere— street. we're seeing buyers and sellers-decisions- street. we're seeing buyers and sellers decisions based sellers making decisions based on sellers making decisions based ee-ddedree— sellers making decisions based on-figures that— sellers making decisions based on figures that liam is on the figures that liam is ddbdee— on the figures that liam is talking about.— on the figures that liam is talking about. actually the talking about. and actually the meed— talking about. and actually the beed—meee- talking about. and actually the mood—much more. mood out there is much more eeedddeed— mood out there is much more confident than— mood out there is much more confident than it— mood out there is much more confident than it was maybe bree— confident than it was maybe bee—r- confident than it was maybe three—i mean,i confident than it was maybe. three—i mean, after three months ago. i mean, after the mini—budget,— three months ago. i mean, after the mini—budget, felt like the mini—budget, it felt like- someone—phones someone had pulled the phones out.— someone had pulled the phones out. it— someone had pulled the phones out. it was— someone had pulled the phones out. it just— someone had pulled the phones out. it was just awful really. and— out. it was just awful really. and-the— out. it was just awful really. and the mortgage , it's and will the mortgage, it's coming— and will the mortgage, it's coming down— and will the mortgage, it's coming down if— and will the mortgage, it's coming down if they're about to start,— coming down if they're about to start, that-s— coming down if they're about to start, that's going— coming down if they're about to start, that's going to have an idon't_ start, that's going to have an even. idon't think- start, that's going to have an even. don't think people even. i don't think people really— even. i don't think people really took— even. i don't think people really look at— even. i don't think people really look at it a to even. i don't think people realbasis.; at it a to even. i don't think people realbasis. they a to even. i don't think people realbasis. they look to even. i don't think people realbasis. they look on a day basis. they look at it on a long..— day basis. they look at it on a longer-basis. — day basis. they look at it on a longer-basis. .all- longer term basis. it's all about—howl longer term basis. it's all about—how feel about confidence. how you feel about— about confidence. how you feel about-there's- about confidence. how you feel about there's always about it. and there's always people— about it. and there's always people all people who want to move and all that— people who want to move and all that-activity— people who want to move and all that-activity .— people who want to move and all that-activity . a— people who want to move and all that-activity . a year- people who want to move and all that activity . a year or that crazy activity. a year or so ago— that crazy activity. a year or so ago when — that crazy activity. a year or so ago when people actually cowdwt— so ago when people actually couldn't-there- so ago when people actually couldn't there were 5 6 couldn't buy, there were 5 or 6 or couldn't buy, there were 5 or 6 w people— couldn't buy, there were 5 or 6 or more people _for| couldn't buy, there were 5 or 6. or more people _for the or more people competing for the same—whose- or more people competing for the same _those people i same properties. those people wat— same properties. those people that need— same properties. those people that need-move— same properties. those people that need move hasn't gone that need to move hasn't gone away— that need to move hasn't gone away .— that need to move hasn't gone away mew-re — that need to move hasn't gone away , they're coming away, so they're slowly coming back— away, so they're slowly coming back-there— away, so they're slowly coming back-were .— away, so they're slowly coming back there . tempted by,

back out there. tempted by, as nam— back out there. tempted by, as mam-tower- back out there. tempted by, as liam-lower rates. . back out there. tempted by, as. liam-lower rates. are liam says, the lower rates. are you— liam says, the lower rates. are you goofing— liam says, the lower rates. are you getting first— liam says, the lower rates. are you getting first buyers or you getting first time buyers or can afford can they still not afford starting to come out.7 actually the we starting to come out? actually tho-we wont— starting to come out? actually the .we want to _ starting to come out? actually the .we want to see - g f (as? actually the we want to see people the key we want to see people noo— the key we want to see people woo-tong— the key we want to see people woo-tong oo- the key we want to see people not-long as they. the key we want to see people not long as they are. not renting as long as they are. ano— not renting as long as they are. and being— not renting as long as they are. and being tempted come and and being tempted to come and buy,— and being tempted to come and bow-would— and being tempted to come and buy,-would release- buy, which would release properties— buy, which would release| properties—and buy, which would release- properties_and keep properties for renting and keep remo— properties for renting and keep roots in— properties for renting and keep rents in check.— properties for renting and keep rents in check. i— properties for renting and keep rents in check. i was chatting to tho— rents in check. i was chatting to the mortgage— rents in check. i was chatting to the mortgage broker yesterday oowouw. — to the mortgage broker yesterday actually. funnily_ to the mortgage broker yesterday actually. l. a g to the mortgage broker yesterday actually. “w g actually. funnily enough, as you know, we've talked about my mortgage for renewal , so mortgage is up for renewal, so i've what my i've been looking at what my opfions i've been looking at what my options very difficult options are. it's very difficult position at the moment because i literally position at the moment because i literalthe mortgage adviser was yeah, the mortgage adviser was chatty he's chatty yesterday. he said he's heanng chatty yesterday. he said he's hearing that people still hearing that people are still more meeting their mortgage repayments . they're still repayments. they're still looking to get either remortgage or buy a new house. what they are doing is not spending as much elsewhere in their much money elsewhere in their life because they say the mortgage that mortgage is the one thing that they to default on they can't afford to default on so won't have eat out, they so they won't have eat out, they won't go on holidays, they won't buy that's the effect buy a new car. that's the effect of this, isn't as well, buy a new car. that's the effect of the :his, isn't as well, buy a new car. that's the effect of the economy. yeah,'ell, buy a new car. that's the effect of the economy. yeah, for a lot on the economy. yeah, for a lot of—mowgogo- on the economy. yeah, for a lot of—mowgogo or- on the economy. yeah, for a lotj of_mortgage or rent of households, mortgage or rent is obviously— of households, mortgage or rent is obviously the _ of households, mortgage or rent is obviously the biggest chunk of wow— is obviously the biggest chunk of your income— is obviously the biggest chunk of your income for many young people,— of your income for many young people, wo— of your income for many young people, it's half— of your income for many young people, it's half their income woo—

people, it's half their income woo goos— people, it's half their income juso goes hou— people, it's half their income just goes half their post—tax . song,— just goes half their post—tax income . bang, even more. it's income. bang, even more. it's just— income. bang, even more. it's juso gono— income. bang, even more. it's juso gone .— income. bang, even more. it's we gone . aeo— income. bang, even more. it's just gone . and of— income. bang, even more. it's just gone . and of course that's just gone. and of course that's going— just gone. and of course that's going so— just gone. and of course that's going no onese— just gone. and of course that's going to affect their ability . going to affect their ability. nonw— going to affect their ability. mottv as— going to affect their ability. motty as consumers more generally— motty as consumers more generally see,— motty as consumers more generally see, you know, here on gb generally see, you know, here on on news— generally see, you know, here on gb news yesterday— generally see, you know, here on gb news yesterday i was saying neeonse— gb news yesterday i was saying because there's— gb news yesterday i was saying because there's there's at the because there's a there's at the onene— because there's a there's at the moment there's— because there's a there's at the moment there's an— because there's a there's at the moment there's an emerging over supply— moment there's an emerging over supply on— moment there's an emerging over supply on oes— moment there's an emerging over supply of cars globally . supply of cars globally. lookoown — supply of cars globally. lockdown happened. the supply onen— lockdown happened. the supply onoin issues— lockdown happened. the supply chain issues happened. they're being— chain issues happened. they're now being solved.— chain issues happened. they're now being solved. there's like a surge— now being solved. there's like a surge-production— now being solved. there's like a surge production in cars and surge of production in cars and ineie-s— surge of production in cars and ineie-s noi— surge of production in cars and there's not enough demand to neei— there's not enough demand to neei ine— there's not enough demand to meet the number— there's not enough demand to meet the number of cars that are being— meet the number of cars that are being-.— meet the number of cars that are ieing-. so— meet the number of cars that are ieing-. so su— meet the number of cars that are being-. so car prices. being produced. so car prices are being produced. so car prices ore-siening- being produced. so car prices are-startinglcomel are actually starting to come down— are actually starting to come down now, new— are actually starting to come down now, new car prices. so if you— down now, new car prices. so if you-io— down now, new car prices. so if you-iono— down now, new car prices. so if you-to-a-hold- down now, new car prices. so ifi you -to-a-hold your you want to buy a car, hold your noses— you want to buy a car, hold your horses, because— you want to buy a car, hold your horses, because think there's you want to buy a car, hold your horsesto»ecause think there's you want to buy a car, hold your horsesto»ecease think there's you want to buy a car, hold your horsesto»ecea lot think there's you want to buy a car, hold your horsesto»ecea lot ofink there's you want to buy a car, hold your horsesto»ecea lot of priceiere's going to be a lot of price competition— going to be a lot of price competition .— going to be a lot of price competition . if- going to be a lot of price competition . if you want to buy competition. if you want to buy a_say- competition. if you want to buy o—sow oiwiousiw| a house, i would say obviously goi— a house, i would say obviously goi jeremy— a house, i would say obviously we've got jeremy in in the room. i we've got jeremy in in the room. iioie— we've got jeremy in in the room. iioke ny— we've got jeremy in in the room. iioke nw-nw— we've got jeremy in in the room. i take my my hands. but i take my life in my hands. but i take my life in my hands. but i wouiu— i take my life in my hands. but i wouisi sow— i take my life in my hands. but i would say don't— i take my life in my hands. but i would say don't around i would say don't hang around wuiiing— i would say don't hang around wuiiinglo— i would say don't hang around waiting-a house— i would say don't hang around waiting a house price crash waiting for a house price crash iesouse— waiting for a house price crash iesouse i— waiting for a house price crash iesouse i iusi— waiting for a house price crash because i just don't think it's going— because i just don't think it's going-happen— because i just don't think it's going-happen -_ because i just don't think it's going happen . and a of going to happen. and a lot of young— going to happen. and a lot of young pimple— going to happen. and a lot of young people will berate me for sowing— young people will berate me for sowing inoi. — young people will berate me for sowing inui. -iusi- young people will berate me for saying that. just think saying that. but i just think onus-s— saying that. but i just think. inoi-s—ieoiiiw that's the fundamental reality nesuuse— that's the fundamental reality because there's— that's the fundamental reality because there's such a snusiuni— because there's such a structural undersupply of homes in one— structural undersupply of homes in one souniw— structural undersupply of homes in this country .— structural undersupply of homes in this country . so— structural undersupply of homes in this country. so either rent or buv- — in this country. so either rent or buy- nui— in this country. so either rent or buy. but that's- in this country. so either rent or buy. it in this country. so either rent or buy. ” or buy. but that's music to your ears estate agent. out

ears as an estate agent. go out and buy the key to it. actually, liam said and buy the key to it. - actually,-liam said and actually, what liam said and wnoi—on- actually, what liam said and what—on beforei what you touched on before snee— what you touched on before there, andrew,— what you touched on before there, andrew, is first time buyers. — buyers. the first time buyers are-lifeblood— buyers. the first time buyers are - lifeblood of - buyers. the first time buyers are lifeblood of the market. are the lifeblood of the market. we are the lifeblood of the market. vie—buy- are the lifeblood of the market. vie—buy oi- are the lifeblood of the market. vie—buy oi inel we want them to buy at the noon— we want them to buy at the ioiion oi— we want them to buy at the bottom or lower— we want them to buy at the bottom or lower levels and trade up, bottom or lower levels and trade .p, noi— bottom or lower levels and trade .p, noi ine — bottom or lower levels and trade up, not the investors at the iowei— up, not the investors at the lower level. _ up, not the investors at the lower level. that's so much lower level. and that's so much noise-i— lower level. and that's so much noieoi-i ine— lower level. and that's so much more for the market. more healthy for the market. i i9— more healthy for the market. i is when— more healthy for the market. i was 19 whenlbought-firstl was 19 when i bought my first house. it cost £7,000. you wouldn't get a garage for that. now it's a night out for you onese— now it's a night out for you inese iows— now it's a night out for you these days. you— now it's a night out for you these days. you say the nicest wing.— these days. you say the nicest ining. iuesoow— these days. you say the nicest thing. tuesday if— these days. you say the nicest thing. tuesday if you're paying, snesk— thing. tuesday if you're paying, snesk ofi— thing. tuesday if you're paying, check off your— thing. tuesday if you're paying, check off your peg. but. but onese— check off your peg. but. but these days, what average age is a first time buyer? well, they're over usually- �*" g ”7’ well, they're over usually over 30, uiessi— they're over usually over 30, uniess-goi- they're over usually over 30, unless- got the - they're over usually over 30, unless got the help with unless they've got the help with nonn— unless they've got the help with ions-nun— unless they've got the help with bank-mum and— unless they've got the help with bank mum and dad. otherwise bank of mum and dad. otherwise inew-ie— bank of mum and dad. otherwise inew-ie-is— bank of mum and dad. otherwise inew-ie-is nonn— bank of mum and dad. otherwise they're-is bank of- bank of mum and dad. otherwise they're is bank of mum they're stuck. is bank of mum oni— they're stuck. is bank of mum one iod— they're stuck. is bank of mum and dad really— they're stuck. is bank of mum and dad really important here? ansoiuisiw— and dad really important here? absolutely. massive.- and dad really important here? ' gigs massive. paramount. absolutely. massive. paramount. one—wiinoui- absolutely. massive. paramount. one—without it. - one of the best without it. nosi— one of the best without it. noss-oi— one of the best without it. most-of course,- one of the best without it. most-of course, is. one of the best without it. . most-of course, is that most people, of course, is that there's no stamp duty if you're a well up to a first time buyer. well up to a certain some duty , certain limits some stamp duty, some time buyers can some first time buyers can afford, lot. but afford, can afford a lot. but stamp course , is stamp duty, of course, is a iosion— stamp duty, of course, is a factor. .when - stamp duty, of course, is a factor. when does it kick factor. but when does it kick in — factor. but when does it kick in? _level? it's- factor. but when does it kick in? 7 it's more factor. but when does it kick- in? _level? it's more about in? what level? it's more about ioising— in? what level? it's more about raising-deposits— in? what level? it's more about raising-deposits .— in? 7 it's more about raising deposits . actually, raising the deposits. actually, inoi-s— raising the deposits. actually, inoi-s-neoi- raising the deposits. actually, that's - hear all - raising the deposits. actually, that's hear all the that's what we hear all the sine. — that's what we hear all the time. .raising- that's what we hear all the time. raising deposits. and

time. it's raising deposits. and unionunoieiw— time. it's raising deposits. and unfortunately had this time. it's raising deposits. and unfort01ately had this time. it's raising deposits. and unforto buy.y had this time. it's raising deposits. and unforto buy scheme,�*|ad this time. it's raising deposits. and unforto buy scheme, which s time. it's raising deposits. and unforto buy scheme, which was help to buy scheme, which was mono—i— help to buy scheme, which was noieo—i seii- help to buy scheme, which was more _to sell for- help to buy scheme, which was more to sell for the more about help to sell for the iuiiies— more about help to sell for the iuiiieslii— more about help to sell for the buildersiif they— more about help to sell for the builders if they replace builders. if they could replace it builders. if they could replace ii-soneining— builders. if they could replace it something which more it with something which was more neioing— it with something which was more helping ine— it with something which was more helping the buyers,— it with something which was more helping the buyers, the first sine— helping the buyers, the first iine buyers— helping the buyers, the first time buyers and really aimed at inoi— time buyers and really aimed at inoi-inew— time buyers and really aimed at inoi-inew oe- time buyers and really aimed at that-they are so- that because they are so ooionouni— that because they are so paramount market that because they are so- paramount-market and paramount for the market and inoi— paramount for the market and inoi-inen— paramount for the market and that-them off- paramount for the market and that them off renting that we get them off renting wnisn— that we get them off renting . which—properties which would release properties for which would release properties ioi sensing— which would release properties for renting which— which would release properties for renting which would keep the ieoosii— for renting which would keep the oeoosii sowing— for renting which would keep the deposit saving and they're nosing— deposit saving and they're makinglvew_ deposit saving and they're making very difficult for making it very difficult for oeooie— making it very difficult for oeooielieni— making it very difficult for people rent homes. people to rent homes. liam ionuionis— people to rent homes. liam landlords because have landlords because landlords have been and yet most been demonised and yet most landlords own one property. yeah, there are obviously yeah, i mean there are obviously insiiiuiions. — yeah, i mean there are obviously institutions. peter— yeah, i mean there are obviously institutions. “f" institutions. peter rackman are they? there are, there- institutions. “f" m; c"iiil«i7’ there are, there are they? there are, there are oiwiousiw— obviously institutional landlords— obviously institutional landlords-,- obviously institutional landlords , who really obviously institutional- landlords-, who really screw landlords who, who really screw insi— landlords who, who really screw their tenants— landlords who, who really screw their tenants to _ landlords who, who really screw their tenants to the floor. but as their tenants to the floor. but os vou— their tenants to the floor. but os you sow— their tenants to the floor. but os you soylioi— their tenants to the floor. but as you say,llot of- their tenants to the floor. but as you say, lot of a lot of their tenants to the floor. but as you are. lot of a lot of their tenants to the floor. but as you are rented )f a lot of their tenants to the floor. but as you are rented out lot of their tenants to the floor. but as you are rented out by of homes are rented out by accidental— homes are rented out by accidental landlords, couples wno— accidental landlords, couples wno nove— accidental landlords, couples who have done— accidental landlords, couples who have done okay. they've kept a who have done okay. they've kept o nouse— who have done okay. they've kept a house, moved— who have done okay. they've kept a house, moved out— who have done okay. they've kept a house, moved out of the house, but a house, moved out of the house, iui keno— a house, moved out of the house, iui keno ii— a house, moved out of the house, iui keno ii io— a house, moved out of the house, but kept it to rent.— a house, moved out of the house, but kept it to rent. they own one-pioneny- but kept it to rent. they own one-niooeny is- but kept it to rent. they own one property is and i but kept it to rent. they own- one-property is and i do one most to property is and i do ininn— one most to property is and i do inink ine— one most to property is and i do think the government's making it very— think the government's making it very iiiiisuii— think the government's making it very difficult for— think the government's making it very difficult for landlords. oven— very difficult for landlords. iven gooe— very difficult for landlords. even good landlords are getting nenoiisei— even good landlords are getting penalised because there are some nosiy— penalised because there are some nasty landlords— penalised because there are some nasty landlords out— penalised because there are some nasty landlords out there and ienonis— nasty landlords out there and tenants-getting- nasty landlords out there and tenants getting really tenants are getting really oggiessiwe— tenants are getting really aggressive trying to aggressive about trying to sue ioniionis— aggressive about trying to sue landlords who's— aggressive about trying to sue landlords who's certainly the landlords who's certainly in the in-ionion—

landlords who's certainly in the in-london market. - landlords who's certainly in the in london market. i just in the london market. i just woniesi— in the london market. i just woniesi io— in the london market. i just wanted to touch— in the london market. i just wanted to touch on bank of mum oni— wanted to touch on bank of mum one nosi— wanted to touch on bank of mum one doe-nook— wanted to touch on bank of mum and dad book truths wanted to touch on bank of mum. and dad-book-truths , and dad in my book home truths, i and dad in my book home truths, i—gooi— and dad in my book home truths, i—gooi oiug- and dad in my book home truths, i—gooi niug. iionl i unearthed a good plug. liam i uneonnei— i unearthed a good plug. liam i unearthed-take— i unearthed a good plug. liam i unearthed take your chances unearthed got take your chances wnen— unearthed got take your chances wnen you— unearthed got take your chances wnen you-onen— unearthed got take your chances when you-them. i- unearthed got take your chances when you them. i unearthed when you get them. i unearthed figures— when you get them. i unearthed some figures that— when you get them. i unearthed some figures that the bank of oni— some figures that the bank of one iod— some figures that the bank of mum and dad and these were from zone— mum and dad and these were from zeis. ine— mum and dad and these were from zeis. ine nonn— mum and dad and these were from 2018. the bank of— mum and dad and these were from 2018. the bank of mum and dad invowesi— 2018. the bank of mum and dad was involved in— 2018. the bank of mum and dad was involved in over half of insi— was involved in over half of iiisi sine— was involved in over half of first time buyer— was involved in over half of first time buyer house purchases . ani— first time buyer house purchases . and in— first time buyer house purchases . and in london,— first time buyer house purchases . and in london, the south—east it's . and in london, the south—east ii-s swo— . and in london, the south—east it's two thirds.— . and in london, the south—east it's two thirds. and— . and in london, the south—east it's two thirds. and that iousnes— it's two thirds. and that touches on— it's two thirds. and that touches on something really inoononi.— touches on something really important. when you bought your first important. when you bought your iiisi nouse— important. when you bought your first house, andrew, you were a insi— first house, andrew, you were a first generation _ first house, andrew, you were a first generation home owner. i o insi— first generation home owner. i was a first generation homeowner. - was a first generation homeowner. it's absolutely massive piece _ homeowner. it's absolutely massive piece of social mobility inoi— massive piece of social mobility inoi oeooie— massive piece of social mobility that people like— massive piece of social mobility that people like you and i from the backgrounds— that people like you and i from the backgrounds we're from, iuougni— the backgrounds we're from, iuougni un— the backgrounds we're from, iuougni up in— the backgrounds we're from, brought up in a— the backgrounds we're from, brought up in a council house souii— brought up in a council house souii buy— brought up in a council house souio nuy ou— brought up in a council house could buy our own the could buy our own homes. the nousing— could buy our own homes. the housing market— could buy our own homes. the housing market back then was a source of social— housing market back then was a source of social mobility and progress. — source of social mobility and progress. ine— source of social mobility and progress. the housing market now is a progress. the housing market now is o noon— progress. the housing market now is o ioin oi— progress. the housing market now is a form of social— progress. the housing market now is a form of social divisiveness oni— is a form of social divisiveness and rancour because so many neonie— and rancour because so many people sonnoi— and rancour because so many people cannot get on the housing ioiien— people cannot get on the housing ioiien so— people cannot get on the housing ladder, so they're— people cannot get on the housing ladder, so they're going to spend— ladder, so they're going to spend insi— ladder, so they're going to spend their whole lives paying seni— spend their whole lives paying sens-iney-ie— spend their whole lives paying rent they're going have rent and they're going to have to rent and they're going to have go_.g.g,_ rent and they're going to have io-ieniline- to be paying rent, or the sioie-s— to be paying rent, or the sioie-s going— to be paying rent, or the state's going to have to be paying—

state's going to have to be paving-thev'rel paying rent when they're pensioes— paying rent when they're pensioners. an paying rent when they're- pensioners.-an absolute pensioners. this is an absolute iisosien— pensioners. this is an absolute disaster.-fact_ pensioners. this is an absolute disaster.-fact that- pensioners. this is an absolute disaster. fact that home disaster. the fact that home ownersnip— disaster. the fact that home ownersnip is— disaster. the fact that home ownership is falling. so sharply in-souniry— ownership is falling. so sharply in-souniry oni— ownership is falling. so sharply in country and whichever in this country and whichever poiiiisoi— in this country and whichever poiiiisoi pony— in this country and whichever political party solves this will win— political party solves this will win o— political party solves this will win o generoi— political party solves this will win a general election and will deserve— win a general election and will deserve so.— win a general election and will deserve so. i— win a general election and will deserve to. i but— win a general election and will deserve to. i but i— win a general election and will deserve to. i but i almost one— deserve to. i but i almost wonder whether the youngsters ion-i— wonder whether the youngsters ion-isore — wonder whether the youngsters ion-i i— wonder whether the youngsters don't care. i know— wonder whether the youngsters don't care. i know that seems like a radical thing to do, but as mother of a teenage as the mother of a of a teenage boy, is whole generation as the mother of a of a teenage bothose is whole generation as the mother of a of a teenage bothose youngsterse generation as the mother of a of a teenage bothose youngsters . generation as the mother of a of a teenage bothose youngsters . they ration as the mother of a of a teenage bothose youngsters . they justn of those youngsters. they just presume they're going to rent forever . they don't want forever. they almost don't want the responsibility , like the responsibility, like a european more of a kind european mindset, more of a kind of rental. yeah, we do hear that because,-a lot- of rental. yeah, we do hear that because,-a lot of- because, of course, a lot of peopie— because, of course, a lot of peopie-iurope- because, of course, a lot of people europe are living people from europe are living one—pui- people from europe are living one—pus ore- people from europe are livingj and—but are our and working here, but are our miniser— and working here, but are our mindset-what— and working here, but are our mindset-what we- and working here, but are our mindset what we are hearing mindset and what we are hearing is inor— mindset and what we are hearing is no peopie— mindset and what we are hearing is that people -are - mindset and what we are hearing is that people are renting is that people who are renting wouii— is that people who are renting would rather— is that people who are renting would rather pay— is that people who are renting would rather pay their mortgage inon—nongogel than the landlords mortgage. veon. — than the landlords mortgage. veon. -wnoi- than the landlords mortgage. yeah. _what they- than the landlords mortgage. yeah. what they want yeah. so that's what they want to yeah. so that's what they want io io. — yeah. so that's what they want io do. so— yeah. so that's what they want io do. so iney— yeah. so that's what they want to do. so they want to do it and inor— to do. so they want to do it and one is— to do. so they want to do it and one is-woy— to do. so they want to do it and one is-woy io— to do. so they want to do it and that is-way to do- to do. so they want to do it and that is-way to dolis- to do. so they want to do it and that is way to do is to that is the way to do it is to neip— that is the way to do it is to neip ine— that is the way to do it is to help the first— that is the way to do it is to help the first time buyers get the help the first time buyers get one-ori— help the first time buyers get the-off renting,- help the first time buyers get the off renting, release help the first time buyers get the properties, renting, release help the first time buyers get the properties, renting. release help the first time buyers get the properties, renting. that's; the properties, renting. that's not-solution.- the properties, renting. that's not solution. solution not the only solution. solution goi— not the only solution. solution we've got massive housing we've got a massive housing srisis— we've got a massive housing srisis in— we've got a massive housing srisis in one— we've got a massive housing crisis in this country , but that crisis in this country, but that wouii—veon.- crisis in this country, but that would _yeah. yeahi would be a start. yeah. yeah i oreeg— would be a start. yeah. yeah i oreeg — would be a start. yeah. yeah i ogr.ee ars— would be a start. yeah. yeah i ogree are you— would be a start. yeah. yeah i agree. ' "it; g would be a start. yeah. yeah i agree. ' g agree. are you seeing much either you this, this either of you about this, this idea? particularly either of you about this, this idea? pinticularly either of you about this, this idea? pin america big happening in america where big

banks are buying up whole swathes of houses. absolutely. because a rental because there will be a rental culture 2030, then you'll be happy. there are more and more insiiiuie— happy. there are more and more institute national— there are more and more institute national landlords and were— institute national landlords and were runner— institute national landlords and they're further and further away from — they're further and further away from one — they're further and further away from the actual— they're further and further away from the actual tenants. that's why— from the actual tenants. that's wny—geiiing- from the actual tenants. that's wny—geiiing nore| from the actual tenants. that's. why—getting more and why tenants are getting more and oggressive— why tenants are getting more and more aggressive about about in ineir— more aggressive about about in their relationship— more aggressive about about in their relationship with their ioniioris— their relationship with their landlords because their landlords— landlords because their landlords are- landlords because their landlords are some kind of oiisnore—.- landlords are some kind of offshore_. it's. offshore corporation. it's noppening— offshore corporation. it's happening here the uk, not happening here in the uk, not puss— happening here in the uk, not iusi in— happening here in the uk, not just in london,— happening here in the uk, not just in london, in— happening here in the uk, not just in london, in manchester oni— just in london, in manchester one ine— just in london, in manchester and the northeast too. it's ieiiniieiy— and the northeast too. it's definitely happening in dublin wnere— definitely happening in dublin wnere i— definitely happening in dublin wnere i nove— definitely happening in dublin where i have lots family. the where i have lots of family. the nousing— where i have lots of family. the housing market— where i have lots of family. the housing market in— where i have lots of family. the housing market in dublin is even iignier— housing market in dublin is even signer-is— housing market in dublin is even tighter-is here.- housing market in dublin is even tighter-is here. the- tighter than it is here. the iosv— tighter than it is here. the iosv oi— tighter than it is here. the lack of accommodation for young peopie— lack of accommodation for young peopie is— lack of accommodation for young peopie is even— lack of accommodation for young people is even worse than it is nee— people is even worse than it is nere. ani— people is even worse than it is nere. one o— people is even worse than it is here. and a lot— people is even worse than it is here. and a lot of— people is even worse than it is here. and a lot of institutions puying— here. and a lot of institutions buying up— here. and a lot of institutions are buying up those that property— are buying up those that property because financial norveis— property because financial markets are— property because financial markets are so— property because financial markets are so unstable. if they put markets are so unstable. if they pui ineir— markets are so unstable. if they pui ineii money— markets are so unstable. if they put their money into long term ionis— put their money into long term ponis ine— put their money into long term bonds, the return— put their money into long term bonds, the return is less than ine— bonds, the return is less than one rose— bonds, the return is less than one roie oi— bonds, the return is less than the rate of inflation. so they won— the rate of inflation. so they woni io— the rate of inflation. so they woni io pui— the rate of inflation. so they want to put money in bricks iesouse— want to put money in bricks iesouse iney— want to put money in bricks because they know people have to live somewhere. _ because they know people have to live somewhere. / because they know people have to live somewhere. “415i?" t live somewhere. yeah. remember margaret jeremy those live somewhere. yeah. remember marg the jeremy those live somewhere. yeah. remember marg the weren'temy those live somewhere. yeah. remember margthe weren't they? )se were the days, weren't they? well, good for the well, it was good for the noises,— well, it was good for the- market,_responsible market, but actually responsible ogenis— market, but actually responsible ogenis ion-i— market, but actually responsible agents don't like— market, but actually responsible agents don't like to see boom oni—

agents don't like to see boom one puss. — agents don't like to see boom and bust-like— agents don't like to see boom and bust.-like to- agents don't like to see boom and bust. like to see people and bust. we like to see people soning— and bust. we like to see peoplei soning—norvei coming in and out of the market new— coming in and out of the market freely-transactions- freely and transactions happening- _ freely and transactions happening. that's much better. ani— happening. that's much better. and osiuoiiy— happening. that's much better. and actually we're approaching inor— that type of market now with supply— that type of market now with suppiy oni— that type of market now with supply and demand much more ioionsesi— supply and demand much more balanced-nice- supply and demand much more balanced. nice estate. balanced. he's a nice estate. ironi— balanced. he's a nice estate. irons-poin— balanced. he's a nice estate. thank-both so— balanced. he's a nice estate. thank-both so much- balanced. he's a nice estate. thank-both so much .- balanced. he's a nice estate. thank both so much . nice. thank you both so much. nice. right. still to come, the uk is set to launch a phone based national alert network. we're going to finding out about going to be finding out about that. makes my boil that. it makes my blood boil after morning's with after your morning's news with rhiannon . good morning. rhiannon jones. good morning. it's rhiannon jones. good morning. is ises.— rhiannon jones. good morning. is ioez. vow— rhiannon jones. good morning. it's 1032. your top— ? mfr" good morning. it's 1032. your top stories 3 mfr" good morning. it's 1032. your top stories from ine— it's 1032. your top stories from one so— it's 1032. your top stories from the gb newsroom— the gb newsroom counter—terrorism officers the gb newsroom— counter—terrorism officers along wiin— counter—terrorism officers along wiin inose— counter—terrorism officers along with those who— counter—terrorism officers along with those who tackle serious orgonisei— with those who tackle serious organised crime,— with those who tackle serious organised crime, have been ironed— organised crime, have been iroiiei in— organised crime, have been drafted in to— organised crime, have been drafted in to help clean up the ne— drafted in to help clean up the iiei poiise— drafted in to help clean up the met police workforce. commissioner sir mark rowley ieiieves— commissioner sir mark rowley believes there— commissioner sir mark rowley believes there are hundreds of sorrupi— believes there are hundreds of corrupt officers— believes there are hundreds of corrupt officers who shouldn't be in— corrupt officers who shouldn't be in one — corrupt officers who shouldn't be in one ioi — corrupt officers who shouldn't be in the job and— corrupt officers who shouldn't be in the job and he wants to weed— be in the job and he wants to weed onen— be in the job and he wants to weed them out. _ be in the job and he wants to weed them out. out of more than iooo— weed them out. out of more than iooo soses— weed them out. out of more than 1000 cases, nearly— weed them out. out of more than 1000 cases, nearly 700 will be reassessed out,— 1000 cases, nearly 700 will be reassessed out, with almost 200 referred— reassessed out, with almost 200 reierresi io— reassessed out, with almost 200 referred to formal— reassessed out, with almost 200 referred to formal risk management or vetting . former

management or vetting. former ssoiiisn— management or vetting. former scottish first— management or vetting. former scottish first minister nicola siurgeon— scottish first minister nicola siuigeon nos— scottish first minister nicola sturgeon has pulled out of a siinoie— sturgeon has pulled out of a climate change— sturgeon has pulled out of a climate change event this evening— climate change event this evening after— climate change event this evening after her husband was reieosei— evening after her husband was released from _ evening after her husband was released from custody without snorge. — released from custody without snorge. ine— released from custody without charge. the home of ms. sturgeon and charge. the home of ms. sturgeon one ine— charge. the home of ms. sturgeon and the former— charge. the home of ms. sturgeon and the former snp— charge. the home of ms. sturgeon and the former snp chief eesuivei— and the former snp chief executive remains cordoned off pending— executive remains cordoned off penoing runner— executive remains cordoned off pending further investigation . pending further investigation. reser— pending further investigation. peter murrell— pending further investigation. peter murrell was arrested as part— peter murrell was arrested as pon oi— peter murrell was arrested as pon oi o— peter murrell was arrested as pon oi o prope— peter murrell was arrested as part of a probe into snp inonses— part of a probe into snp finances, including £600,000 set osiie— finances, including £600,000 set osisie for— finances, including £600,000 set aside for scotland's— finances, including £600,000 set aside for scotland's inaya oepenoense— aside for scotland's inaya dependence campaign . in breaking dependence campaign. in breaking o ze— dependence campaign. in breaking o ze yeor— dependence campaign. in breaking news, a 23 year old— dependence campaign. in breaking news, a 23 year old man has pieoiei— news, a 23 year old man has pieooei noi— news, a 23 year old man has pleaded not guilty at liverpool crown— pleaded not guilty at liverpool srown soun— pleaded not guilty at liverpool crown court to _ pleaded not guilty at liverpool crown court to the murder of peouiision— crown court to the murder of beautician elle— crown court to the murder of beautician elle edwards in iierseysisie— beautician elle edwards in merseyside. connor chapman is oiso— merseyside. connor chapman is oiso snorgei— merseyside. connor chapman is also charged with— merseyside. connor chapman is also charged with possessing a suinosnine— also charged with possessing a submachine gun— also charged with possessing a submachine gun with intent to enionger— submachine gun with intent to enoonger iiie— submachine gun with intent to endanger life .— submachine gun with intent to endanger life . 26 year old miss endanger life. 26 year old miss iiworis— endanger life. 26 year old miss iiworis os— endanger life. 26 year old miss edwards was shot— endanger life. 26 year old miss edwards was shot dead in the iigninouse— edwards was shot dead in the lighthouse pub— edwards was shot dead in the lighthouse pub in wirral just before— lighthouse pub in wirral just before midnight on christmas eve . g.— before midnight on christmas eve . sir pg.— before midnight on christmas eve . sir keir starmer_ before midnight on christmas eve . sir keir starmer has promised to . sir keir starmer has promised io iniroiuse— . sir keir starmer has promised to introduce specialist rape souns— to introduce specialist rape souns ii— to introduce specialist rape courts if labour— to introduce specialist rape courts if labour wins the next

session— courts if labour wins the next eiesiion .— courts if labour wins the next eiesiion . ii— courts if labour wins the next election . it comes amid a record election. it comes amid a record iosviog— election. it comes amid a record iosviog in— election. it comes amid a record posviog in ine— election. it comes amid a record backlog in the courts, which sees victims— backlog in the courts, which sees victims face an average inree— sees victims face an average inree yeor— sees victims face an average iniee yeor woii— sees victims face an average three year wait for justice. government— three year wait for justice. government analysis shows the nurnep— government analysis shows the nurnep oi— government analysis shows the nurnei oi rope— government analysis shows the number of rape survivors dropping— number of rape survivors dropping their cases has more inon— dropping their cases has more than doubled— dropping their cases has more than doubled since 2015, and the us than doubled since 2015, and the us presisieni— than doubled since 2015, and the us president has— than doubled since 2015, and the us president has accepted an inviie— us president has accepted an inviie iron — us president has accepted an invite from the— us president has accepted an invite from the king for a state visii— invite from the king for a state visii io— invite from the king for a state visii io ine— invite from the king for a state visit to the uk.— invite from the king for a state visit to the uk. the white house soys— visit to the uk. the white house soys roe— visit to the uk. the white house soys ioe niien— visit to the uk. the white house says joe biden had— visit to the uk. the white house says joe biden had a very irieniiy— says joe biden had a very friendly chat— says joe biden had a very friendly chat with king charles ine— friendly chat with king charles over the phone.— friendly chat with king charles over the phone. the president is iue— over the phone. the president is due io— over the phone. the president is due io visii— over the phone. the president is due to visit northern ireland oni— due to visit northern ireland one ine— due to visit northern ireland and the republic next week but won-i— and the republic next week but won-i onene— and the republic next week but won't attend the— and the republic next week but won't attend the coronation in iioy. — won't attend the coronation in may. _represented- may. he'll be represented insieosi— may. he'll be represented insieosi py— may. he'll be represented instead by his— may. he'll be represented instead by his wife, jill . tv instead by his wife, jill. tv eniine— instead by his wife, jill. tv online dab+— instead by his wife, jill. tv online dab+ radio and on tune in. inis— online dab+ radio and on tune in. we is— online dab+ radio and on tune in. we is en— online dab+ radio and on tune in. this is gb news. as. online dab+ radio and on tune in. this is gb news. as . direct in. this is gb news. as. direct iuiiion— in. this is gb news. as. direct bullion sponsors— in. this is gb news. as. direct bullion sponsors the finance epon— bullion sponsors the finance repon on— bullion sponsors the finance repon on se— bullion sponsors the finance report on gb news for gold and siiver— report on gb news for gold and silver investment— report on gb news for gold and silver investment .— report on gb news for gold and silver investment . izirizi; silver investment. here's a quick—

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welcome back. you are watching to the point on gb news with andrew pierce and bev turner. he's nattering again. it's carole malone. she comes in, she ininvs— carole malone. she comes in, she thinks-programme. - carole malone. she comes in, she thinks-programme. she. cy? she comes in, she thinks on. programme. she cy? she comes in, she thinks on. we're ogramme. she cy? she comes in, she thinks on. we're going me. she cy? she comes in, she thinks on. we're going mecome to comes on. we're going to come to soroie— comes on. we're going to come to soroie-ioonno— comes on. we're going to come to carole .joanna .just- carole and joanna in just a rnorneni — carole and joanna in just a moment. but— carole and joanna in just a moment. but first- carole and joanna in just a moment. �*" moment. but first of all, emergency . i feel need to emergency. i feel like i need to set siren this studio set off a siren in this studio sometimes, get sometimes, to be honest, to get everyone's attention. sirens are going every going to go off on every smartphone the country. the smartphone in the country. the government part smartphone in the country. the goairnment part smartphone in the country. the goairnmifor part smartphone in the country. the goairnmifor its part smartphone in the country. the goairnmifor its new part smartphone in the country. the goairnmifor its new emergency)art of a test for its new emergency alerts system. and it's going to be alerts system. and it's going to ie ione— alerts system. and it's going to ie ione-e— alerts system. and it's going to ie ionele p.m.— alerts system. and it's going to be done-3 p.m. on- sap and it's going to be done 3 p.m. on sunday, the be done on 3 p.m. on sunday, the zero— be done on 3 p.m. on sunday, the zero-aprii. — be done on 3 p.m. on sunday, the 23rd-april. _george's- 23rd of april. saint george's eoy. — 23rd of april. saint george's eoy. linoi— 23rd of april. saint george's day. that significant? day. is that significant? i wondere— day. is that significant? i- wonder?_vibrations wonder? the sound of vibrations

is—iosier- wonder? the sound of vibrations is—iosier oi- wonder? the sound of vibrations is_taster of this. is going to be a taster of this controversial— is going to be a taster of this controversial system that controversial new system that none— rigni- controversial new system that none_. right it's. none of us want. right it's controversial. discuss controversial. well, to discuss this more detail, we're this in more detail, we're joined by alex woodman the joined by alex woodman from the national chiefs council. national fire chiefs council. good , alex. are you good morning, alex. are you going to defend this system? if so , go for it because i'm going so, go for it because i'm going to be quite a tough audience . to be quite a tough audience. good morning. yes, i certainly inis— good morning. yes, i certainly we is— good morning. yes, i certainly we is o— good morning. yes, i certainly am. this is a new— good morning. yes, i certainly am. this is a new system , as you am. this is a new system, as you iusi— am. this is a new system, as you iusi soisi— am. this is a new system, as you iusi soisi. ine— am. this is a new system, as you just said. the test— am. this is a new system, as you just said. the test will go live on ine— just said. the test will go live on one zero— just said. the test will go live on the 23rd at— just said. the test will go live on the 23rd at 3— just said. the test will go live on the 23rd at 3 p.m. and this is oioui— on the 23rd at 3 p.m. and this is oioui us— on the 23rd at 3 p.m. and this is about us having the ability to is about us having the ability io worn— is about us having the ability io oni— is about us having the ability to warn and inform the public of any to warn and inform the public of ony insiienis— to warn and inform the public of any incidents related to things iive— any incidents related to things ire-oni— any incidents related to things like and wildfires . so for like flood and wildfires. so for us, like flood and wildfires. so for inis— like flood and wildfires. so for one is— like flood and wildfires. so for one is o— like flood and wildfires. so for us, this is a positive addition to us, this is a positive addition io ine— us, this is a positive addition io ins-snoo— us, this is a positive addition to the _that are - us, this is a positive addition to the that are available to the tools that are available to the tools that are available to-emergencies- to the tools that are available to-emergencies .- to the tools that are available to emergencies . i've lived to us in emergencies. i've lived in one— to us in emergencies. i've lived in one souniry— to us in emergencies. i've lived in this country all— to us in emergencies. i've lived in this country all my life, and i in this country all my life, and i son— in this country all my life, and i can honestly— in this country all my life, and i can honestly say— in this country all my life, and i can honestly say that i've never been the— i can honestly say that i've never been the victim of a wild iire. — never been the victim of a wild iire. anu— never been the victim of a wild iire. one i— never been the victim of a wild fire. and i don't— never been the victim of a wild fire. and i don't think- never been the victim of a wild fire. and i don't think i- never been the victim of a wild fire. 'i: iii?" g fire. and i don't think i know anybody that has been a victim of a wildfire. and there is a of a wildfire. and if there is a fire not saying fire and i'm not saying they don't happen, beings don't happen, but human beings have smell have these senses called smell and also heat alert awareness. so i don't need the phone to beep to tell me to run. if

there's a fire in my area. so i think as we saw last sign; �*" "it; " size so i think as we saw last summer, inere— think as we saw last summer, inere os— think as we saw last summer, there was some— think as we saw last summer, there was some significant wi—fi all there was some significant wi—fi oii ov— there was some significant wi—fi oii ine— there was some significant wi—fi all over the country. we had oioui— all over the country. we had oioui eo— all over the country. we had oioui so in— all over the country. we had about 50 in 1— all over the country. we had about 50 in 1 day. we had up to see— about 50 in 1 day. we had up to 800 firefighters— about 50 in 1 day. we had up to 800 firefighters deployed iigniing— 800 firefighters deployed fighting them. so i think last summer was a _ fighting them. so i think last summer was a good example of wnere— summer was a good example of wnere inis— summer was a good example of where this system— summer was a good example of where this system would have been— where this system would have been useiui— where this system would have been useful to _ where this system would have been useful to us. and as you soie— been useful to us. and as you soie-oi— been useful to us. and as you said,-of course,- said, yes, of course, people nove— said, yes, of course, people novesenses-- said, yes, of course, people have senses their have their senses and their awareness. this— have their senses and their awareness. this an additional awareness. this is an additional neosurelneip— awareness. this is an additional neosurelneip us— awareness. this is an additional measure help us. you take measure to help us. if you take inings— measure to help us. if you take inings iive— measure to help us. if you take things like flooding incidents, the things like flooding incidents, ine-ior— things like flooding incidents, ine-ior us— things like flooding incidents, the-for us to- things like flooding incidents, the for us to share the ability for us to share information— the ability for us to share information in— the ability for us to share information in that local area at information in that local area oi speed— information in that local area at speed would— information in that local area at speed would be a really sriiisoi— at speed would be a really critical asset— at speed would be a really critical asset to _ at speed would be a really critical asset to us. so i think we nove— critical asset to us. so i think we have seen examples of where the we have seen examples of where ine sysien— we have seen examples of where the system would— we have seen examples of where the system would be useful to -nony- the system would be useful to -nrony peopiel the system would be useful to. us. _many people died us. alex how many people died because beep us. alex how many people died bettheir beep us. alex how many people died bettheir phone beep us. alex how many people died bettheir phone ? so beep us. alex how many people died bettheir phone ? so last beep us. alex how many people died bettheir phone ? so last year,i on their phone? so last year, ionunoieiy— on their phone? so last year, fortunately nobody- iii“ ” 7 so last year, fortunately nobody died in the uk fortunately nobody died in the up os— fortunately nobody died in the up os o— fortunately nobody died in the uk as a result— fortunately nobody died in the uk as a result of— fortunately nobody died in the uk as a result of those wildfires.— uk as a result of those wildfires. and- uk as a result of those wildfires. and i think i put inoi— wildfires. and i think i put inoi iown— wildfires. and i think i put that down to— wildfires. and i think i put that down to the efforts of the iireiigniers — that down to the efforts of the firefighters, the _ that down to the efforts of the firefighters, the crews and the sornrnoni— firefighters, the crews and the command-that- firefighters, the crews and the| command _that-out firefighters, the crews and the. command _that-out to command teams that went out to suppon—in- command teams that went out to suppon—in inoii support the communities in that iine. —oiso- support the communities in that time._also support time. and that was also support iron— time. and that was also support iron ou— time. and that was also support from our communities. is from our communities. this is oioui—iooi- about an additional tool available— about an additional tool available to— about an additional tool available to us. jizzi" . available to us. don't have a mobile phone . so there are

mobile phone. so there are a numeri— mobile phone. so there are a nurnei oi— mobile phone. so there are a number of individuals- so there are a number of individuals that we know— number of individuals that we know wno— number of individuals that we know who don't— number of individuals that we know who don't have mobile pnones— know who don't have mobile pnones. pui— know who don't have mobile phones, but this— know who don't have mobile phones, but this is about an oiiiiionoi— phones, but this is about an additional measure. so most peopie. — additional measure. so most peopie. wnoi— additional measure. so most people. �*ifvii’flpg g additional measure. so most people. additional measure. so most- people. what about somebody how do get helped ? so this is do they get helped? so this is an additional— do they get helped? so this is an additional measure. - i:i:::i gig :7 so this is an additional measure. so what we won-i— an additional measure. so what we wont is— an additional measure. so what we won't be doing is just using this as a tool alone. so if there's operational reasons we can deploy crews, still, this will take away from our will not take away from our operational capabilities as this is measure that will is an enhanced measure that will capture the majority of people . capture the majority of people. and we some successful and we have had some successful pilot tests we've seen pilot tests where we've seen this work, where does come this work, where does it come from, idea? is it you guys from, this idea? is it you guys or from, this idea? is it you guys oilii— from, this idea? is it you guys oilii soe— from, this idea? is it you guys orlit some brain— :7 is it you guys or it some brain brainchild or is it some brain brainchild of or is it some brain brainchild oi soneioiy— or is it some brain brainchild of somebody in— or is it some brain brainchild of somebody in government ? \i:::i of somebody in government? no, it's of somebody in government? no, its iiis— of somebody in government? no, its iiis nos— of somebody in government? no, it's this has been— of somebody in government? no, it's this has been designed in consultation with emergency services and other partners. this is led by government. we've seen this work in other countries across the world. the united states, canada, japan have similar systems. this is a measure to get information out in a targeted way to the community. if there is a risk to life. alex this idea that we snouii — life. alex this idea that we snouii oii— life. alex this idea that we should all be _ c ”it; alex this idea that we should all be walking around worried—

should all be walking around worried about— should all be walking around worried about dropping dead iesouse— worried about dropping dead iesouse oi— worried about dropping dead because of a— worried about dropping dead because of a fire or an alert, is— because of a fire or an alert, is o— because of a fire or an alert, it's a problem.— because of a fire or an alert, it's a problem. it— because of a fire or an alert, it's a problem. it is causing peopie— it's a problem. it is causing peopie sressi — it's a problem. it is causing people stress. did oppression, nenioi— people stress. did oppression, mental health,— people stress. did oppression, mental health, attitudes , issues mental health, attitudes, issues iesouse— mental health, attitudes, issues iesouse oi— mental health, attitudes, issues because of this— mental health, attitudes, issues because of this attitude that we oiwoys— because of this attitude that we oiwoys nove— because of this attitude that we oiwoys nove io — because of this attitude that we always have to be— because of this attitude that we always have to be risk averse. roi— always have to be risk averse. ior yeors— always have to be risk averse. ioi yeois weve— always have to be risk averse. for years we've had amazing men and for years we've had amazing men one iive— for years we've had amazing men and women like you— for years we've had amazing men and women like you that keep us soie— and women like you that keep us soie oni— and women like you that keep us soie one so— and women like you that keep us safe and come to— and women like you that keep us safe and come to our aid when we need— safe and come to our aid when we need wen.— safe and come to our aid when we need inen. vie— safe and come to our aid when we need them. we do— safe and come to our aid when we need them. we do not need the governneni— need them. we do not need the government hacking into our pnone— government hacking into our phone because— government hacking into our phone because whether you like it phone because whether you like ii or— phone because whether you like ii or noe— phone because whether you like ii or noi. inis— phone because whether you like it or not, this is— phone because whether you like it or not, this is going to noppen— it or not, this is going to noppen on— it or not, this is going to happen on your phone, isn't it? iiniess— happen on your phone, isn't it? nniess you— happen on your phone, isn't it? unless you take— happen on your phone, isn't it? unless you take measures to turn it unless you take measures to turn ii oin— unless you take measures to turn it off-government— unless you take measures to turn it off. government has it off. the government has oireosiy— it off. the government has oireoiy-our- it off. the government has already our phone it off. the government has- already-our phone to already accessed our phone to none—we- already accessed our phone to make—we need. already accessed our phone to. make—we need some make this happen. we need some pusniosv. — make this happen. we need some pusniosv. i— make this happen. we need some pushback. i don't— make this happen. we need some pushback. i don't think the puiiis— pushback. i don't think the pupiis woni— pushback. i don't think the public want this . alex public want this. alex so we've very— public want this. alex so we've seen very positive responses in the pilot phase. he's up to 88% of people responded positively . of people responded positively. 85% wanted this on their phones . i think the term of saying this is hacking on technology. this is about having phones across that have 4g 5g system . across that have 4g 5g system. this sits in a standard mobile phone device. this is not utilising something that is secondary within the phone. this

is just a capability that it has is just a capability that it has is my ask of individuals would be that they would leave this system on. you can turn it off if you want to. and this is about us getting messages out to the community motty as quickly and effectively as we can. if there is a risk to life, the media do that and the media have done beginning of done that since the beginning of time , not quite time in this country, not quite the time, in the beginning of time, but in recent the media are recent years, the media are brilliant at that. we have systems brilliant at that. we havei systems—have brilliant at that. we have- systems_have great systems in place. we have great sosioi— systems in place. we have great sosioi neiio— systems in place. we have great social media. now— systems in place. we have great social media. now somebody will tell-something— social media. now somebody will tell something twitter social media. now somebody will tell moreiething twitter social media. now somebody will tell more quickly twitter social media. now somebody will tell more quickly thaniitter social media. now somebody will tell more quickly than the' much more quickly than the governneni— much more quickly than the government-our- much more quickly than the government our beloved government or our beloved fire servise—sio- government or our beloved fire servise—sio .- government or our beloved fire servise—sio . viel government or our beloved fire. service—do . we just service can possibly do. we just ion-i— service can possibly do. we just ion-i-iiis— service can possibly do. we just ion-i-ii-s going- don't need it. it's going to sosi— don't need it. it's going to- cost money. it's going to cause proiiens— cost money. it's going to cause pioiiens . — cost money. it's going to cause propiens. so— cost money. it's going to cause problems. so we— cost money. it's going to cause problems . f fiit. problems. so we respect the fact that the media is, as we know, an excellent tool for getting information out . this is not any information out. this is not any different, though. this is something coming something that will be coming direct or direct direct from government or direct from emergency services. there are protocols place about how are protocols in place about how we this. my hope is, we would use this. my hope is, is that this will a trusted is that this will be a trusted source information source of rapid information action utilise as action that we can utilise as decision making commanders in the event of an emergency situation , action that shows a situation, action that shows a risk to life . and as i've said,

risk to life. and as i've said, predominantly this be predominantly this will be around be around flooding. this will be about wildfires as the technology allows us to either cover a large area or really honein cover a large area or really hone in to a local ward level. and this is about adding additional messaging in crisis . additional messaging in crisis. all right. that's alex woodman iron— all right. that's alex woodman iron ine— all right. that's alex woodman from the national— all right. that's alex woodman from the national fire chiefs counse— from the national fire chiefs council. let's— from the national fire chiefs council. let's ask— from the national fire chiefs council. let's ask our viewers. inonvs— council. let's ask our viewers. thanks-coming— council. let's ask our viewers.. thanks-coming-got thanks for coming on. bev's got a thanks for coming on. bev's got o peer— thanks for coming on. bev's got o per one— thanks for coming on. bev's got o per one o— thanks for coming on. bev's got a beer and a bonnet about that. vou— a beer and a bonnet about that. vou-ieii— a beer and a bonnet about that. vou-ieii .— a beer and a bonnet about that. you-tell . joanna— a beer and a bonnet about that. you tell . joanna williams, you can tell. joanna williams, ouinor— you can tell. joanna williams, ouinor oni— you can tell. joanna williams, author and academic, is with us, soroie— author and academic, is with us, carole-broadcaster.- author and academic, is with us, carole broadcaster. she author and academic, is with us, caroone broadcaster. she author and academic, is with us, caroone who broadcaster. she author and academic, is with us, caroone who brclattering she was one who was clattering in, as was one who was clattering in, os—oi- was one who was clattering in,i os—oi as usual, making a lot of noise. vou— as usual, making a lot of noise. you—muons.- as usual, making a lot of noise.- you—moone-io you were talking malone. what do you—ideoe- you were talking malone. what do you—ideoe weiil you think about this idea? well perus— you think about this idea? well some noi— you think about this idea? well me noi so— you think about this idea? well batus not so on— you think about this idea? well batus not so on that she was a bit batus not so on that she was a iii iive— batus not so on that she was a iii i-ve ioreiy— batus not so on that she was a bit i've barely begun . wi: batus not so on that she was a bit i've barely begun . ' i: bit i've barely begun. and also ioni— bit i've barely begun. and also iooi oi— bit i've barely begun. and also iooi oi ine— bit i've barely begun. and also look at the class action. sorry carol. go on. you're right. it reoiiy— carol. go on. you're right. it reoiiy nosvs— carol. go on. you're right. it really hacks me— carol. go on. you're right. it really hacks me off- carol. go on. you're right. it really hacks me off .- cizi you're right. it really hacks me off . they can really hacks me off. they can nosi— really hacks me off. they can nosv inso— really hacks me off. they can hack into our— really hacks me off. they can hack into our phone . i mean, you hack into our phone. i mean, you know.— hack into our phone. i mean, you know. in— hack into our phone. i mean, you know. iin noi— hack into our phone. i mean, you know, i'm not very— hack into our phone. i mean, you know, i'm not very good on apps oni— know, i'm not very good on apps one nessoesg— know, i'm not very good on apps and messages anyway. i would propoiiy— and messages anyway. i would propopiy noi— and messages anyway. i would probably not as— and messages anyway. i would probably not as bad me probably not as bad as me iesouse— probably not as bad as me iesouse-ii- probably not as bad as me because-it on- probably not as bad as me. because-it on silent. probably not as bad as me becauyou it on silent. probably not as bad as me becauyou won't it on silent. probably not as bad as me becauyou won't havei silent. probably not as bad as me becauyou won't have itiilent. probably not as bad as me becauyou won't have it doesn't well, you won't have it doesn't noiier. — well, you won't have it doesn't noiier. iris— well, you won't have it doesn't matter. it's going— well, you won't have it doesn't matter. it's going-off. matter. it's going to go off whether not, whether you like it or not, doesn't yeah. it is. doesn't it. yeah. i mean it is. its— doesn't it. yeah. i mean it is. iiis o— doesn't it. yeah. i mean it is. it's a complete— : g . yeah. i mean it is. it's a complete imposition and wnoi— it's a complete imposition and wnoi-is— it's a complete imposition and wnoi-is oni- it's a complete imposition and what-is and you- it's a complete imposition and what is and you quite what it means is and you quite iigniiy— what it means is and you quite runny-oue— what it means is and you quite rightly-out,.meansl rightly pointed out, it means we— rightly pointed out, it means iney—even- rightly pointed out, it meansi they—even more they can spy on us even more inon— they can spy on us even more non-io— they can spy on us even more than-do, which-isj than they do, which i think is

guiie— than they do, which i think is guns-ani— than they do, which i think is quite-and and- than they do, which i think is quite and and he didn't quite scary. and and he didn't convince me.-you- quite scary. and and he didn't convince me. you went convince me. there you went 40 iines—nel times around the block and he wosni— times around the block and he wosn-i-ii— times around the block and he wosn-i-ii .— times around the block and he wosn-i-ii --i- times around the block and he wasn't-it .-i don't. wasn't doing it. no, i don't woni— wasn't doing it. no, i don't want leither. _ wasn't doing it. no, i don'tj want leither. - say wasn't doing it. no, i don't. wantleither. _say we want it either. and you say we sonon—si— want it either. and you say we can—and we'll- want it either. and you say wei can—and we'll hear can smell a fire and we'll hear it can smell a fire and we'll hear ii-oni— can smell a fire and we'll hear ii-oni wee- can smell a fire and we'll hear it-and we're not- it on twitter and we're not iiiois. — it on twitter and we're not idiots. _the- it on twitter and we're not idiots. _the thing.| idiots. here's the thing. newsflash. we're not idiots. are you idiot? do you need you an idiot? do you need this suppone— support? i'm absolutely not an idios— support? i'm absolutely not an idiot—yours- support? i'm absolutely not an idiot._you're an. idiot. i don't think you're an idios— idiot. i don't think you're an idiot-neon- idiot. i don't think you're an idiot. mean, clearly idiot. and i mean, clearly i ogree— idiot. and i mean, clearly i ogiee wiin— idiot. and i mean, clearly i agree with what- idiot. and i mean, clearly i agree with what you're saying, idiot. and i mean, clearly i agre

even—inoie - do you think the government have even—inoie i- do you think the government have even _that? i don'tj even thought about that? i don't sorsliin— even thought about that? i don't sorsliin-sure.— even thought about that? i don't carell'm-sure. idon't- even thought about that? i don't care i'm sure. don't know care. i'm not sure. i don't know . but i think this is something important. well, . but i think this is something important . well, then the important. well, then the nusioni— important. well, then the husband the— well, then the husband the partner knows he's got husband the partner knows he's goo—neu- husband the partner knows he's goi—nsiii go- husband the partner knows he's goi—nsiii go .- husband the partner knows he's. got—he'll go , listen, got the phone. he'll go, listen, alarm, you've got a phone under your he's there. your bed, but he's not there. no. is home. oh ithink no. if he is at home. oh i think yours— no. if he is at home. oh i think you're_relationship.| you're an abusive relationship. in you're an abusive relationship. in—oil in an abusive relationship at none.— in an abusive relationship at none. inen— in an abusive relationship at home. then here's it. and so surreniiy— home. then here's it. and so surreniiy ine — home. then here's it. and so currently the safety valve. veon. — currently the safety valve. veon. inis— currently the safety valve. yeah. this is— currently the safety valve. yeah. this is about safety. yeah. this is all about safety. inis— yeah. this is all about safety. we ioves— yeah. this is all about safety. this takes away— yeah. this is all about safety. this takes away the battle of waterlooville _ this takes away the battle of. waterlooville _ at waterlooville. yes. yes. so at the moment, this is scheduled for a test. i think it's 11:00 for a test. i think it's11:00 sunday, the 23rd of april. and it's that test in particular which could put people at risk if people don't know about it and have one of these secret phones and don't turn it off. you know , it could be hidden in you know, it could be hidden in their bedside drawer, for example, can it under example, you can hide it under the mattress to an the mattress is going to emit an alarm. could then alarm. and that could then expose unless you put it expose them unless you put it under . yes, i think under the mattress. yes, i think who how going to be who knows how it's going to be the i've mine off the alarm. i've turned mine off _seveir- the alarm. i've turned mine off _seveir oni- . if you're very clever and you-ve— . if you're very clever and youive—onil . if you're very clever and. you've—and the you've got the time and the commitment— you've got the time and the commitment will to do commitment and the will to do it, commitment and the will to do pp—io— commitment and the will to do g,_po your- commitment and the will to doi pp,_po your pnone it, you can go on to your phone, you— it, you can go on to your phone, you-inrougn— it, you can go on to your phone, you-inrougn your- it, you can go on to your phone, you through your settings it, you can go on to your phone, you there through your settings it, you can go on to your phone, you there is hrough your settings it, you can go on to your phone, you there is an ugh your settings it, you can go on to your phone, you there is an emergencyittings it, you can go on to your phone, you there is an emergency alert; and there is an emergency alert ining— and there is an emergency alert ining on— and there is an emergency alert ining on inere— and there is an emergency alert thing on there, which is which

wiii—yourl will have appeared on your phone wiinoui— will have appeared on your phone without—throughl will have appeared on your phone witisettings. through will have appeared on your phone witisettings. ' i: through will have appeared on your phone witisettings. ' i: cwmugh my settings. and i've done baffling. i wouldn't say baffling. i wouldn't dare to say no. no but just no. you've got no idea. butjust pug.— no. you've got no idea. but just just, know, i spoke my just, you know, i spoke to my kids about this this is what kids about this and this is what matters. the matters. it's about the interaction and interaction with the state and the individual and the psychology doing psychology and what it's doing to kids were saying, to us. and my kids were saying, yeah, but mummy, there be yeah, but mummy, there might be something that's going to kill us know. i said, us and we need to know. i said, kids, going kids, there's nothing going to kill but might be kill you. no, but there might be something kill something that's going to kill us to know what us and we need to know what we're the mindset we're doing. to the mindset of teenagers thinking they're in mortal it was mortal danger even if it was going to you you were going to kill you and you were alerted to it doesn't alerted to it, it doesn't mean you saved quite. you can be saved from it quite. you know, you're going to die. vou— you know, you're going to die. you know— you know, you're going to die. you know you're— you know, you're going to die. you know you're going to die. ves—worningl yes. it gives you a warning. yeah. open yeah. actually, i could open a bottle might rather bottle of wine. you might rather not know. no, i don't not want to know. no, i don't want not want to know. no, i don't woni-vouive- not want to know. no, i don't want-you've seen i not want to know. no, i don'ti want-you've seen the want to know. you've seen the wnere— want to know. you've seen the movies where they know the sois— movies where they know the| comet's—right. comet's coming. that's right. is— comet's coming. that's right. is goi— comet's coming. that's right. is goi-iwo— comet's coming. that's right. it's got, two weeks it's got, like, two weeks to prepore— prepare, and it's not a good ining.— prepare, and it's not a good ining-isni. - prepare, and it's not a good thing.-isn't. no,- prepare, and it's not a good thing. isn't. \i:::i . thing. no, it isn't. no, it's isnesiiy— thing. no, it isn't. no, it's honestly, think it's deeply honestly, i think it's deeply sinister. of sinister. now talking of prepared, nicola prepared, do you think nicola sturgeon off the sturgeon was tipped off the former the former first minister that the police former first minister that the poliquestion when she made that the question when she made that resignoiion— the question when she made that resignation-seven- resignation speech, seven weeks ogo.— resignation speech, seven weeks oog—wos- ago, my first thought was inereis— ago, my first thought was there's_here.| there's a rabbit off here. vinoiis— there's a rabbit off here. what's behind what's she hiding? what's behind now what's she hiding? what's behind e— what's she hiding? what's behind e vie— what's she hiding? what's behind now ? we probably— what's she hiding? what's behind now ? we probably know. well, i now? we probably know. well, i soii— now? we probably know. well, i soii oi—

now? we probably know. well, i soii oi-iine— now? we probably know. well, i soii oi-iine .— now? we probably know. well, i said at-time , this- now? we probably know. well, i said at time , this all said at the time, this is all oioui— said at the time, this is all about-police- said at the time, this is all about police investigation . about the police investigation. me about the police investigation. iie—ine- about the police investigation. iie—ine weev- about the police investigation.- me _the week before me too. because the week before operoiion— me too. because the week before operation branch _ me too. because the week before operation branch form, which is the operation branch form, which is is one— operation branch form, which is he in— operation branch form, which is the one in interviewing everyone inoi— the one in interviewing everyone we sioriei— the one in interviewing everyone that started to— the one in interviewing everyone that started to interview people inoi— that started to interview people no group— that started to interview people no group oi— that started to interview people that group of coppers. so don't ieii— that group of coppers. so don't ieii ne— that group of coppers. so don't ieii ne sne— that group of coppers. so don't tell me she didn't— that group of coppers. so don't tell me she didn't know that iesouse— tell me she didn't know that iesouse ii-s— tell me she didn't know that because it's looking very much to because it's looking very much io ne— because it's looking very much io ne-ine— because it's looking very much to me-the police- because it's looking very much to me the police are to me like the police are working— to me like the police are working with— to me like the police are working with the snp because it's working with the snp because is iooving— working with the snp because it's looking like— working with the snp because it's looking like they waited to onesi— it's looking like they waited to arrest-murrell- it's looking like they waited to arrest murrell until after arrest peter murrell until after the arrest peter murrell until after he eiesiion— arrest peter murrell until after the election happened, until inere— the election happened, until there - little _ there was a little bit of sioiiiiiy— there was a little bit of stability. but- there was a little bit of stability. but you know what? vou— stability. but you know what? you-wnoi— stability. but you know what? you-what really- stability. but you know what? you what really me you know what really gets me oioui— you know what really gets me oioui-ani- you know what really gets me. oioui-ani-so. about sturgeon? and she was so, so ssoining— about sturgeon? and she was so, so ssoining oi— about sturgeon? and she was so, so scathing of boris— about sturgeon? and she was so, so scathing of boris during ronygoie.— so scathing of boris during ronygoie. ves— so scathing of boris during partygate. yes, she was the noroi— partygate. yes, she was the noroi nign— partygate. yes, she was the moral high ground mark. she was soying— moral high ground mark. she was soying. wnoi— moral high ground mark. she was soying. wnoi o— moral high ground mark. she was saying, what a stinking, very gooi— saying, what a stinking, very gooi ess— saying, what a stinking, very gooi .— saying, what a stinking, very good mess . what a stinking, good mess. what a stinking, roiien— good mess. what a stinking, roiien ess— good mess. what a stinking, rotten mess this— good mess. what a stinking, rotten mess this is. because inis— rotten mess this is. because we isnii— rotten mess this is. because this isn't just— rotten mess this is. because this isn't just about morale in ine— this isn't just about morale in is six— this isn't just about morale in is six oni— this isn't just about morale in the six and the— this isn't just about morale in the six and the 600 grand that going— the six and the 600 grand that going io— the six and the 600 grand that going io ie— the six and the 600 grand that was going to be used for and the ioon— was going to be used for and the ioon oni— was going to be used for and the ioon oni nis— was going to be used for and the loan and his own— was going to be used for and the loan and his own personal loan to loan and his own personal loan io ine— loan and his own personal loan io ine snn— loan and his own personal loan to the snp and— loan and his own personal loan to the snp and sturgeon was osvei— to the snp and sturgeon was osveiline— to the snp and sturgeon was asked .the weeks- to the snp and sturgeon was asked the weeks before she asked in the weeks before she resigned— asked in the weeks before she resignei or— asked in the weeks before she resigned or she— asked in the weeks before she resigned or she was asked by peopie— resigned or she was asked by people-scotland,- people in scotland, didn't i ion-i— people in scotland, didn't i ionii—ine- people in scotland, didn't i. don't—the media don't think it made the media nee—ioon- don't think it made the media here—loan that. don't think it made the medial here—loan that 107 here whether that loan that 107 groni— here whether that loan that 107 groni-ioven— here whether that loan that 107 grand .taken from - here whether that loan that 107 grand taken from their joint grand was taken from their joint ioni— grand was taken from their joint ionv ossouni— grand was taken from their joint bank account and— grand was taken from their joint bank account and she always reiusei— bank account and she always reiusei io— bank account and she always refused to say— bank account and she always refused to say so.— bank account and she always refused to say so. she knew that

a refused to say so. she knew that oionne— refused to say so. she knew that oionne oi— refused to say so. she knew that a tonne of trouble— refused to say so. she knew that a tonne of trouble was coming oni— a tonne of trouble was coming oni sne— a tonne of trouble was coming oni sne knew— a tonne of trouble was coming and she knew it— a tonne of trouble was coming and she knew it would make her posiiion— and she knew it would make her posiiion os— and she knew it would make her position as first— and she knew it would make her position as first minister sonpieieiy— position as first minister completely i just completely untenable. and i just ininv— completely untenable. and i just ininv-inis— completely untenable. and i just think-this shows— completely untenable. and i just think-this shows to- completely untenable. and i just think this shows to just think this this shows to just say— think this this shows to just soy sne— think this this shows to just soy sne nos— think this this shows to just say she has always denied that sne— say she has always denied thati sne—nui she knows, always denied. but i supposi— she knows, always denied. but i suspssi-ios— she knows, always denied. but i suspect-has-police- she knows, always denied. but i suspect has police might she knows, always denied. but i sus|her has police might she knows, always denied. but i sus|her because police might she knows, always denied. but i sus|her because she police might she knows, always denied. but i sus|her because she was:e might she knows, always denied. but i sus|her because she was the ight ask her because she was the leader snp. the police leader of the snp. the police have a leader of the snp. the police nove o iuiy— leader of the snp. the police nove o iuiy io— leader of the snp. the police have a duty to ask— leader of the snp. the police have a duty to ask her.- : 53m 37�* the police have a duty to ask her. but what i have a duty to ask her. but what i—ieiisious- i thought was delicious yesierioy— i thought was delicious yesterday, they were searching her yesterday, they were searching ner-i— yesterday, they were searching ner-i inougni- yesterday, they were searching her i thought, good, her bins and i thought, good, iesouse— her bins and i thought, good, because actually— her bins and i thought, good, because actually law should because actually the law should apply— because actually the law should apply to_ because actually the law should oppiy io you— because actually the law should apply to you as_ because actually the law should apply to you as well. wi: apply to you as well. and that ioni— apply to you as well. and that ieni on— apply to you as well. and that tent on the front garden, i thought , tent on the front garden, i thought, god, this of thought, god, this is line of duty. absolute albie. i mean, the whole thing— duty. absolute albie. i mean, the whole thing stinks,- imean, the whole thing stinks, doesn't it the whole thing stinks, doesn't ii ioes. — the whole thing stinks, doesn't it does. _ stinks - the whole thing stinks, doesn't it does—stinks .- the whole thing stinks, doesn't it does. stinks . and it does. absolutely stinks. and iin — it does. absolutely stinks. and i-n prepoiei— it does. absolutely stinks. and i-n prepoiei io— it does. absolutely stinks. and i'm prepared to accept that . i'm prepared to accept that. siurgeon— i'm prepared to accept that. sturgeon perhaps didn't know the presise— sturgeon perhaps didn't know the presise ine— sturgeon perhaps didn't know the precise time and— sturgeon perhaps didn't know the precise time and date which precise time and date at which inoi— precise time and date at which we inosv— precise time and date at which that knock was— precise time and date at which that knock was going to occur on the that knock was going to occur on he ioor— that knock was going to occur on he ioor .— that knock was going to occur on he ioor. nui— that knock was going to occur on the door . but clearly, this that knock was going to occur on the door. but clearly, this has been— the door. but clearly, this has been-running- the door. but clearly, this has been-running .- the door. but clearly, this has been running . we've been in the running. we've known— been in the running. we've known-ou— been in the running. we've known. all known. they known. we've all known. they orrivei— known. we've all known. they orrivei oi— known. we've all known. they arrived at 730 _ known. we've all known. they arrived at 730 joanna and she arrived at 730 to joanna and she oui— arrived at 730 to joanna and she oui ine— arrived at 730 to joanna and she was out the house— arrived at 730 to joanna and she was out the house in a car at ssoe— was out the house in a car at spoolneon— was out the house in a car at 8:00.imean, i'm— was out the house in a car at 8:00. mean, i'm so didn't give 8:00. i mean, i'm so didn't give ner— 8:00. i mean, i'm so didn't give ner nusn— 8:00. i mean, i'm so didn't give ner nusn ine— 8:00. i mean, i'm so didn't give her much time to— 8:00. i mean, i'm so didn't give her much time to ahead . her much time to get ahead. nogse— her much time to get ahead. nogseiiui— her much time to get ahead. bags?.but but— her much time to get ahead. bags? but but the whole thing bags? no but but the whole thing sinis— bags? no but but the whole thing siinvs. ani— bags? no but but the whole thing stinks. and what's— bags? no but but the whole thing stinks. and what's more, it's ine— stinks. and what's more, it's ine sneii— stinks. and what's more, it's the smell that— stinks. and what's more, it's the smell that lingers and i inini— the smell that lingers and i ininv ii— the smell that lingers and i think it lingers— the smell that lingers and i think it lingers now over humza vousoi— think it lingers now over humza vousoilsouse— think it lingers now over humza yousaflcause he's— think it lingers now over humza yousaf cause he's her

yousaf it cause he's her successor. absolutely but the eiesiion— successor. absolutely but the election was— successor. absolutely but the election was rushed through . you election was rushed through. you know.— election was rushed through. you know. ii— election was rushed through. you know. ii os— election was rushed through. you know, it was six— election was rushed through. you know, it was six weeks start to iinisn— know, it was six weeks start to iinisnlne— know, it was six weeks start to finish he presented as the finish. he was presented as the soniinuiiy— finish. he was presented as the continuity candidate. and i ininv— continuity candidate. and i think-forbes- continuity candidate. and i think forbes and her think kate forbes and her supponeis— think kate forbes and her supponeis. i— think kate forbes and her supporters, i mean, she only iosi— supporters, i mean, she only lost narrowly. _ supporters, i mean, she only lost narrowly. let's remember, 48,— lost narrowly. let's remember, is. es— lost narrowly. let's remember, is. is io— lost narrowly. let's remember, is. is io 52. — lost narrowly. let's remember, 48, 48 to 52. ' oily fitfiiily 48, 48 to 52. absolutely. barely half the party voted for him. and you wondered why at the time this was happening. but the thing he's a lost cause now thing is, he's a lost cause now because he can't actually now he can about westminster can bang on about westminster withholding a withholding the right of a second he's got second referendum. but he's got nowhere to go now with independence, is independence, this party is completely now as a completely discredited now as a whole. it was always something you talk about the smell. i always thought it is really unneoiiny— always thought it is really unhealthy that this first iiinisier— unhealthy that this first minister who's been fryston for eigni— minister who's been fryston for eigni yeors— minister who's been fryston for eigni yeois ner— minister who's been fryston for eight years, her husband was she— eight years, her husband was chief executive— eight years, her husband was chief executive of the party inoi— chief executive of the party that-scotland - chief executive of the party that-scotland .- chief executive of the party that scotland . yes, he'd that run scotland. yes, he'd been— that run scotland. yes, he'd been sniei— that run scotland. yes, he'd been chief since— that run scotland. yes, he'd been chief since 1988. no, oisoiuieiy— been chief since 1988. no, oisoiuieiy .— been chief since 1988. no, absolutely . he— been chief since 1988. no, absolutely . he knows where all absolutely. he knows where all the absolutely. he knows where all he ioiies— absolutely. he knows where all the bodies are— absolutely. he knows where all the bodies are buried completely . i— the bodies are buried completely . i neon.— the bodies are buried completely . i inis— the bodies are buried completely . i mean, this would- the bodies are buried completely . i mean, this would be- the bodies are buried completely . i mean, this would be the type of expect in of thing you might expect in some republic. of thing you might expect in som know, republic. of thing you might expect in som know, this republic. of thing you might expect in som know, this is republic. of thing you might expect in somknow, this is not republic. of thing you might expect in somknow, this is not azpublic. of thing you might expect in somknow, this is not a serious you know, this is not a serious political party for a nation. this is not how you would expect things to be done . of all of

things to be done. of all of this things to be done. of all of his reoiiy— things to be done. of all of this really gets— things to be done. of all of this really gets to- things to be done. of all of this really gets to me- g; : of all of this really gets to me , this really gets to me, osiuoiiy.— this really gets to me, actually, because, you know, wnen— actually, because, you know, wnen-moie— actually, because, you know, when-made that- actually, because, you know, when made that speech, it when she made that speech, it _wosyou— when she made that speech, it wos-you-iivel was all about, you know, i've got— was all about, you know, i've goi—in— was all about, you know, i've goi—in-ionvl was all about, you know, i've goi—in-ionv -| got nothing left in the tank. iin — got nothing left in the tank. iin iirei— got nothing left in the tank. i'm tired and— got nothing left in the tank. i'm tired and i— got nothing left in the tank. i'm tired and i want to see my ioniiy— i'm tired and i want to see my ioniiy. iiis— i'm tired and i want to see my family. it's all— i'm tired and i want to see my family. it's all hypocritical. iiis— family. it's all hypocritical. iiis iusi— family. it's all hypocritical. it's just nonsense. appears yeon— it's just nonsense. appears yeon-wos— it's just nonsense. appears yeah, was coming . and she yeah, this was coming. and she knew— yeah, this was coming. and she knew ine— yeah, this was coming. and she knew the ball— yeah, this was coming. and she knew the ball was— yeah, this was coming. and she knew the ball was rolling ioworis— knew the ball was rolling towards-and- knew the ball was rolling towards and we allowed her towards her and we allowed her on ssoiioni— on scotland allowed her a iigniiiei— on scotland allowed her a dignified exit— on scotland allowed her a dignified exit in parliament wnere— dignified exit in parliament wnere sne— dignified exit in parliament where she was— dignified exit in parliament where she was allowed to have a iew— where she was allowed to have a iew-soy— where she was allowed to have a iew-soy inis— where she was allowed to have a few-say this has- where she was allowed to have a few say this has been few tears and say this has been the few tears and say this has been ine greoiesi— few tears and say this has been the greatest honour life. the greatest honour of my life. ani— the greatest honour of my life. one on— the greatest honour of my life. one oii ine— the greatest honour of my life. and all the time— the greatest honour of my life. and all the time that was noppening— and all the time that was happening, thinking you happening, i'm thinking you wouii— happening, i'm thinking you would resigning, you would not be resigning, you wouii— would not be resigning, you wouii-ie— would not be resigning, you would be leaving unless would not be resigning, you woulcwas be leaving unless would not be resigning, you woulcwas somethingi unless would not be resigning, you woulcwas something in�*iless would not be resigning, you woulcwas something in the. there was something in the. but inse-s— there was something in the. but there's another— there was something in the. but there's another hypocrisy as well. which really well. i think, which really comes certainly not anybody comes from certainly not anybody in here in gb news, in the room here or in gb news, but branches the media but other branches of the media where the snp more where sturgeon and the snp more broadly, it seems, have had a bit of a free pass getting bit of a free pass in getting away with some of these things. i mean , if this boris, i mean, if this had been boris, for example , and this had been for example, and this had been something going on in westminster the westminster with the conservative , you know, i conservative party, you know, i think lot more would be being think a lot more would be being made people would be made of this. people would be horrified. it would be scandal, it wall to wall talk of it would be wall to wall talk of

corrupt an actual you corrupt. an in actual fact, you know, there's a few front pages today have said universal. today have said not universal. it's not every front page and it's not on every front page and there's this slight sense of them. you know, they're kind of one of us. they're on side so they can have a nod and wink they can have a nod and a wink and much criticism and just not that much criticism . white nationalism and espesioiiy— white nationalism and especially scottish nationalism. the especially scottish nationalism. ine peopie— especially scottish nationalism. ine peopie wno— especially scottish nationalism. the people who are in that organisation,— the people who are in that organisation, they will always more— organisation, they will always make excuses— organisation, they will always make excuses for— organisation, they will always make excuses for this. they will iini— make excuses for this. they will iinilreoson— make excuses for this. they will find l reason .to _ make excuses for this. they will find reason to believe it, make excuses for this. they will finthinkeason to believe it, make excuses for this. they will finthink it'sn to believe it, make excuses for this. they will finthink it's the to believe it, make excuses for this. they will finthink it's the rest believe it, make excuses for this. they will finthink it's the rest be use it, to think it's the rest of us noving— to think it's the rest of us having-them,- to think it's the rest of us having them, you to think it's the rest of us- having-them, you know? having a go at them, you know? i neon-noi— having a go at them, you know? i neon-noi o— having a go at them, you know? i mean,-had a look— having a go at them, you know? i mean, had a look twitter mean, i've had a look on twitter oireoiy— mean, i've had a look on twitter oireoiy-ore— mean, i've had a look on twitter already-are nats- already and there are nats siisving— already and there are nats sticking-them- already and there are nats sticking them and saying, sticking up for them and saying, you-ins— sticking up for them and saying, you-inisloii— sticking up for them and saying, you-thislall-witchl you know, this is all like witch nunis— you know, this is all like witch nunis-ine— you know, this is all like witch hunts-the-it's- hunts and all the rest. it'si hunts and all the rest. it's- nonsense,_| don't nonsense, you know, and i don't ininv— nonsense, you know, and i don't ininv iiiii— nonsense, you know, and i don't think it'll take— nonsense, you know, and i don't think it'll take popularity think it'll take the popularity iown— think it'll take the popularity iown wiin— think it'll take the popularity down with the _ think it'll take the popularity down with the diehards. i think we— down with the diehards. i think iney-oiwoys— down with the diehards. i think iney-oiwoys ie— down with the diehards. i think they always be there, they will always be there, but noyie— they will always be there, but maybe _waverers they will always be there, but. maybe _waverers . maybe it'll sway the waverers. son— maybe it'll sway the waverers. son you— maybe it'll sway the waverers. son you onu— maybe it'll sway the waverers. son you one in— maybe it'll sway the waverers. can you and i'm trying- maybe it'll sway the waverers. can you and i'm trying to- maybe it'll sway the waverers. can you and i'm trying to think of precedent britain of a precedent in britain for a political leader or a prime minister, effectively the longest premiers in longest serving premiers in europe, having home raided europe, having their home raided by the police and having a forensic tent slapped in the front no can you think front garden? no can you think of any precedent? well, the only person i can think of at the moment donald trump. moment is donald trump. actually, there's parallels, oeni—

aren't there? exactly i mean, nons— boris was accused of having a bit of and a glass of bit of cake and a glass of prosecco he got £50 prosecco and he got a £50 penalty. yeah is on penalty. fine. yeah this is on a siigniiy— penalty. fine. yeah this is on a slightly different— fine. yeah this is on a slightly different scale. “413?“ slightly different scale. yeah, rigni. noving— slightly different scale. yeah, right. moving on,— slightly different scale. “413?“ g moving on, let's slightly different scale. “413?“ " 3 moving on, let's talk right. moving on, let's talk oioui— right. moving on, let's talk about sunak— ” g moving on, let's talk about sunak defending plans about sunak defending the plans to house the migrants on these iiooi— to house the migrants on these ion-soroi— to house the migrants on these float-carol.-goingl float tells carol. is this going to float tells carol. is this going io-soiuiion— float tells carol. is this going to-solution to- float tells carol. is this going to-solution to the- to be the solution to the propiene— to be the solution to the problem? he's- to be the solution to the problem? he's saying it's right oni— problem? he's saying it's right oni ioir— problem? he's saying it's right oni ioir oni— problem? he's saying it's right and fair and i— problem? he's saying it's right and fair and i do— problem? he's saying it's right and fair and i do think it's iigni— and fair and i do think it's iigni oni— and fair and i do think it's right and fair.— and fair and i do think it's right and fair. - and fair and i do think it's right and fair. /i:::i. right and fair. you know, i mean, they're going to be in a nice seaside resort. we've all seen pictures of inside the seen the pictures of inside the barge. very nice. it's 220 barge. it's very nice. it's 220 rooms. there's a gym, there's a pool table. they're going to get free, board, free, free free, free board, free, free health care. they're going to be looked after. they're going to get and out of get money to go in and out of town. local council gets town. the local council gets £3,000. council £3,000. luke miall council gets that. know, we that. and but, you know, we can't situation can't have a situation that's costing day to costing £6 million a day to house illegal migrants. let's not we're not just not forget, we're not just talking about we're talking about can't about illegal migrants. we can't be paying £6 million a day each migrant it's going to cost migrant here. it's going to cost £50 look them . £50 a day to look after them. this you know, this is good enough. you know, it have luxury. it it doesn't have to be luxury. it has to be it has to meet all the requirements of humanitarian and utilitarian. and this does meet all of our obligations. and it's

good. all of our obligations. and it's good . i mean, i get why people good. i mean, i get why people in dorset are upset because there no consultation. well there was no consultation. well we talked local mp yesterday, we talked to local mp yesterday, richard he knew richard draghi first he knew about it. it was when read it about it. it was when he read it in-poper. — about it. it was when he read it in-poper. iini— about it. it was when he read it in-paper. i'm looking- about it. it was when he read it in-paper. i'm looking for. in the paper. i'm looking for the pictures we here's the pictures. here we go. here's the pictures. here we go. here's the boat. bupa the here's the boat. it's bupa gym the male got gym en suite. the male have got this it here. this pictures of it here. i mean, you know, it's not it's perfectly it's perfectly what's wrong with it? you're fleeing war and persecution. it's a pretty nice place- war and persecution. it's a pretty nice place to- fii: f it's a pretty nice place to be. your fwi: f it's a pretty nice place to be. your en suiie— pretty nice place to be. your en suiie — pretty nice place to be. your en suite rooms. and— pretty nice place to be. your en suite rooms. " suite rooms. and also in holland, they use this in holland, they use this in holland house migrants all holland to house migrants all over the eu. and in fact, they going— over the eu. and in fact, they going io— over the eu. and in fact, they were going to use— over the eu. and in fact, they were going to use one- and in fact, they were going to use one of the raf noses— were going to use one of the raf poses in— were going to use one of the raf bases in yorkshire— were going to use one of the raf bases in yorkshire-i- were going to use one of the raf bases in yorkshire i think bases in yorkshire and i think iney-ve—on- bases in yorkshire and i think they've—on that.| they've pulled back on that. inoi— they've pulled back on that.| inoi—nousei that that would have housed zoos.— that that would have housed zoos. iui— that that would have housed 2000, but it's— that that would have housed 2000, but it's only people. 2000, but it's only 500 people. joe_- i— 2000, but it's only 500 people. ioe—. ieon- 2000, but it's only 500 people. joe_. i mean, the- 2000, but it's only 500 people. i joe_. i mean, the fact joe absolutely. i mean, the fact is inere — joe absolutely. i mean, the fact is inere is— joe absolutely. i mean, the fact is inere is iusi— joe absolutely. i mean, the fact is there is just simply- ' dilg i mean, the fact is there is just simply no easy soiuiion— is there is just simply no easy soiuiion io— is there is just simply no easy solution to this— is there is just simply no easy solution to this unless we osiuoiiy— solution to this unless we actually manage somehow to stop nigronis— actually manage somehow to stop migrants arriving— actually manage somehow to stop migrants arriving to get the piones— migrants arriving to get the piones up— migrants arriving to get the piones up io— migrants arriving to get the planes up to rwanda . well, planes up to rwanda. well, uiessi— planes up to rwanda. well, unless something like that noppens— unless something like that noppens .— unless something like that happens , which would be happens, which would be a ieierreni— happens, which would be a deterrent, i— happens, which would be a deterrent, i mean, i suspect peopie— deterrent, i mean, i suspect peopie wii— deterrent, i mean, i suspect people will still— deterrent, i mean, i suspect people will still try to come even—sysien- people will still try to come even-system is. people will still try to come| even-system is in even when that system is in piose— even when that system is in piose-nove— even when that system is in place.-have to- even when that system is in place. have to put people place. you have to put people somewhere, hotels , very

somewhere, hotels, very epensive— somewhere, hotels, very expensive. and the danger is iney— expensive. and the danger is he iney— expensive. and the danger is he he osi— expensive. and the danger is they they act as— expensive. and the danger is they they act as a pull factor. osiuoiiy— they they act as a pull factor. actually attracting people in if inoi— actually attracting people in if we inoi— actually attracting people in if that that the _ actually attracting people in if that that the word goes round, you— that that the word goes round, you gei— that that the word goes round, you gei pui— that that the word goes round, you gei pui up— that that the word goes round, you get put ”p in_ that that the word goes round, you get put up in might add to the-deterrent- you get put up in might add to the-deterrent . - you get put up in might add to the deterrent . “413?“ the sense of deterrent. yeah exosiiy. — the sense of deterrent. yeah exactly. you're— the sense of deterrent. yeah exactly. you're not- the sense of deterrent. yeah exactly. you're not going to be in a nice hotel. you're going to be barge. and actually be in a barge. and i actually inini— be in a barge. and i actually think-deterrent- think having a deterrent in piose— place like that is a humanitarian thing to do. place like that is a— humanitarian thing to do. what's not humanitarian thing to do. what's noi—ieiiing- not humanitarian is letting peopie— not humanitarian is letting- peopie—srossing people risk their lives crossing the people risk their lives crossing ins—ine — people risk their lives crossing the—the most- people risk their lives crossing. the—the most perilous people risk their lives crossing the route the most perilous people risk their lives crossing the route that the most perilous people risk their lives crossing the route that you most perilous people risk their lives crossing the route that you canst perilous people risk their lives crossing the route that you can take. ilous sea route that you can take. oioy. — sea route that you can take. oioy. ioiies— sea route that you can take. oioy. ioiies .— sea route that you can take. okay, ladies , we've run out of okay, ladies, we've run out of ine— okay, ladies, we've run out of iine rignie — okay, ladies, we've run out of time, right? we'll- okay, ladies, we've run out of time, right? �*ifviiizi; ll f " time, right? we'll be back in just a little while. won't you? but still to come, king charles is for the maundy is in york for the maundy service. he's been met with an interesting give interesting crowd. we'll give you the in just you the details in just a moment. gb news, moment. this is gb news, britain's channel. there britain's news channel. hi there . it's aidan mcgivern from the ne— . it's aidan mcgivern from the iiei eiiise— . it's aidan mcgivern from the iiei eiiise .— it's aidan mcgivern from the met office . wednesday's rain is met office. wednesday's rain is seeing— met office. wednesday's rain is sieoring no— met office. wednesday's rain is clearing now, but— met office. wednesday's rain is clearing now, but heavy showers ioiiow— clearing now, but heavy showers ioiiow ioi— clearing now, but heavy showers follow for many— clearing now, but heavy showers follow for many of— clearing now, but heavy showers follow for many of us in between . iigni— follow for many of us in between , some bright spells and senoiniy— , some bright spells and certainly feeling warmer sonporei— certainly feeling warmer compared with yesterday . the compared with yesterday. the weoiner— compared with yesterday. the weather fronts _ compared with yesterday. the weather fronts that pushed the in— weather fronts that pushed the in during— weather fronts that pushed the rain in during wednesday are now sieoring— rain in during wednesday are now sieoring .— rain in during wednesday are now sieoring . iui— rain in during wednesday are now clearing , but they're slowing clearing, but they're slowing down.— clearing, but they're slowing gown-so— clearing, but they're slowing down. - so some - clearing, but they're slowing down. so some persistent down. and so some persistent roin— down. and so some persistent iingering— down. and so some persistent rain lingering for— down. and so some persistent rain lingering for the far north—east— rain lingering for the far north—east of- rain lingering for the far north—east of aberdeenshire into oriney— north—east of aberdeenshire into eriney oni— north—east of aberdeenshire into orkney and shetland through the

rest orkney and shetland through the resi-ine— orkney and shetland through the rest-the morning— orkney and shetland through the rest-the morning .— orkney and shetland through the rest the morning . and for the rest of the morning. and for the ini— rest of the morning. and for the iiei-ine— rest of the morning. and for the first-the afternoon,- rest of the morning. and for the first the afternoon, as first part of the afternoon, as weii— first part of the afternoon, as well, shetland— first part of the afternoon, as well, shetland keeps the rain inrougnoui— throughout the day. elsewhere, a irignier— throughout the day. elsewhere, a iiigniei sky.— throughout the day. elsewhere, a brighter sky, still— throughout the day. elsewhere, a brighter sky, still a lot of sioui— brighter sky, still a lot of sioui oni— brighter sky, still a lot of cloud and some showers. the iiveiiesi— cloud and some showers. the liveliest downpours likely across central— liveliest downpours likely across central and southern as weii— across central and southern as weii os— across central and southern as well as eastern— across central and southern as well as eastern parts of england wnere— well as eastern parts of england wnere souii— well as eastern parts of england where could be— well as eastern parts of england where could be some thunderstorms in places, even ioii— thunderstorms in places, even noii-owoy— thunderstorms in places, even some hail, away from the some hail, but away from the showers, sunshine and temperatures up to 15 or 16 seisius— temperatures up to 15 or 16 seisius in— temperatures up to 15 or 16 celsius in the— temperatures up to 15 or 16 celsius in the south. but ieeiing— celsius in the south. but feeling colder- celsius in the south. but feeling colder where we've got inoi— feeling colder where we've got that persistent— feeling colder where we've got that persistent rain towards the nonn—eosi— that persistent rain towards the north—east_that. north—east of scotland that soninuesi— north—east of scotland that continues into— north—east of scotland that continues into the evening , but continues into the evening, but it continues into the evening, but ii eveniuoiiy— continues into the evening, but it eventually fizzles out overnigni— it eventually fizzles out overnight across shetland . a lot overnight across shetland. a lot of overnight across shetland. a lot oi sioui— overnight across shetland. a lot of cloud remains— overnight across shetland. a lot of cloud remains in the north seav_ of cloud remains in the north seo. iui— of cloud remains in the north sea, but elsewhere, showers die owoy— sea, but elsewhere, showers die owoy oni— sea, but elsewhere, showers die owoy oni ine— sea, but elsewhere, showers die away and the clouds disappear as away and the clouds disappear as o issuin— away and the clouds disappear as o resuii. a— away and the clouds disappear as a result. a frosty— away and the clouds disappear as a result. a frosty night to come in ruroi— a result. a frosty night to come in ruroi spois— a result. a frosty night to come in rural spots and— a result. a frosty night to come in rural spots and even in towns oni— in rural spots and even in towns oni siiies— in rural spots and even in towns oni siiies .— in rural spots and even in towns and cities , temperatures dipping and cities, temperatures dipping to and cities, temperatures dipping io 2— and cities, temperatures dipping io 2 io— and cities, temperatures dipping io 2 io e— and cities, temperatures dipping to 2 to 4 celsius.— and cities, temperatures dipping to 2 to 4 celsius. so a chilly sioris— to 2 to 4 celsius. so a chilly sions io— to 2 to 4 celsius. so a chilly starts to good— to 2 to 4 celsius. so a chilly starts to good friday, but osiuoiiy— starts to good friday, but actually for— starts to good friday, but actually for most, it's a sunny sion— actually for most, it's a sunny sion oni— actually for most, it's a sunny sion oni iong— actually for most, it's a sunny start and long spells of sunsnine— start and long spells of sunshine continue through the morning— sunshine continue through the morning oni— sunshine continue through the morning and into the afternoon for morning and into the afternoon ior ine— morning and into the afternoon ior ine vosi— morning and into the afternoon for the vast majority. one exsepiion— for the vast majority. one exception in— for the vast majority. one exception in some of these north sso— exception in some of these north seo soosioi— exception in some of these north sea coastal counties where we're going— sea coastal counties where we're going io—

sea coastal counties where we're going io see— sea coastal counties where we're going io iow— sea coastal counties where we're going to see low cloud reappear inrougn— going to see low cloud reappear inrougn ine— going to see low cloud reappear inrougn ine ioy— going to see low cloud reappear through the day. some mistiness oouni— through the day. some mistiness oouni ine— through the day. some mistiness around the beaches and some irizzie— around the beaches and some drizzle that's— around the beaches and some drizzle that's going to make it ieei— drizzle that's going to make it ieei soiien— drizzle that's going to make it feel colder, 10— drizzle that's going to make it feel colder, 10 to— drizzle that's going to make it feel colder, 10 to 12 celsius on ine— feel colder, 10 to 12 celsius on ins-sso— feel colder, 10 to 12 celsius on the-sea coast.- feel colder, 10 to 12 celsius on the-sea coast. but- feel colder, 10 to 12 celsius on the sea coast. but we've the north sea coast. but we've got the north sea coast. but we've goi-sunsnine— the north sea coast. but we've got sunshine elsewhere at 12 got the sunshine elsewhere at 12 to got the sunshine elsewhere at 12 io ie— got the sunshine elsewhere at 12 io ie iegrees. — got the sunshine elsewhere at 12 to 16 degrees. so— got the sunshine elsewhere at 12 to 16 degrees. so a— got the sunshine elsewhere at 12 to 16 degrees. so a pleasant oiiernoon— to 16 degrees. so a pleasant afternoon to _ to 16 degrees. so a pleasant afternoon to come for the vast noioriiy— afternoon to come for the vast noioiiiy oni— afternoon to come for the vast majority and that— afternoon to come for the vast majority and that continues into the majority and that continues into ine evening— majority and that continues into ine evening os— majority and that continues into the evening as well as much of the evening as well as much of he weekeni. — the evening as well as much of the weekend. so— the evening as well as much of the weekend. so saturday and sunioy— the weekend. so saturday and eunioy ore— the weekend. so saturday and sunday are looking like a repeat perorrnonsei— sunday are looking like a repeat performance with— sunday are looking like a repeat performance with plenty of warm, sunny— performance with plenty of warm, sunny speiis— performance with plenty of warm, sunny spells across— performance with plenty of warm, sunny spells across the uk . sunny spells across the uk. siii— sunny spells across the uk. siiii soe— sunny spells across the uk. still some of— sunny spells across the uk. still some of that low cloud oiiesiing— still some of that low cloud affecting north _ still some of that low cloud affecting north sea coast by nongov— affecting north sea coast by iionioy. o— affecting north sea coast by monday, a spell— affecting north sea coast by monday, a spell of rain followed by sowns— monday, a spell of rain followed by sowns .— monday, a spell of rain followed by sown . ny—

by good morning. you are watching to the point on gb news with me bev pierce. bev turner and andrew pierce. and about mps for and we're talking about mps for nire. — and we're talking about mps for nire. .iory— and we're talking about mps for nireliory iii— and we're talking about mps for hire.-tory mp who- and we're talking about mps for hire. tory mp who offered to hire. the tory mp who offered to work— hire. the tory mp who offered to work-ine— hire. the tory mp who offered to work the gambling industry work for the gambling industry for work for the gambling industry ior money—io- work for the gambling industry for money._to be. for money. we're going to be ioiiing— for money. we're going to be ioiiing oiso— for money. we're going to be talking also to— for money. we're going to be talking also to the tory mp who ioigei— talking also to the tory mp who ioigei ine— talking also to the tory mp who dodged the sting.— talking also to the tory mp who dodged the sting. he's one of very— dodged the sting. he's one of

our very own. stay tuned our very own. so stay tuned for inon— our very own. so stay tuned for inoi-inis— our very own. so stay tuned for that.-this morning,- our very own. so stay tuned for that. this morning, local that. also this morning, local opposiiion— that. also this morning, local opposiiion is— that. also this morning, local opposition is building to rishi sunoi— opposition is building to rishi sunak migrant— opposition is building to rishi sunak migrant barge plan. the niiiy— sunak migrant barge plan. the bibby stockholm _ sunak migrant barge plan. the bibby stockholm will- sunak migrant barge plan. the bibby stockholm will dock off the dorset coast providing accommodate for 500 people. it doesn't look too bad, does it? would you be happy for migrants to offshore, near you, to be housed offshore, near you, where they've got to go somewhere? and can you believe inise— somewhere? and can you believe inise some— somewhere? and can you believe this? some met— somewhere? and can you believe this? some met police— ”c7 and can you believe this? some met police officers nov— this? some met police officers no goi— this? some met police officers who've got convictions even for seuoi— who've got convictions even for sexual-are still- sexual offences, are still serving— sexual offences, are still serving officers. the met chief is no— serving officers. the met chief is now looking— serving officers. the met chief is now looking into it and he's noving— is now looking into it and he's noving io— is now looking into it and he's having to move— is now looking into it and he's having to move 100 police oiiisers— having to move 100 police officers involved in the war ogoinsi— officers involved in the war against terror— officers involved in the war against terror to- officers involved in the war against terror to do just that . against terror to do just that. anu— against terror to do just that. and wiii— against terror to do just that. and wiii ii— against terror to do just that. and will it be— against terror to do just that. and will it be the— against terror to do just that. and will it be the easter- and will it be the easter houday and will it be the easter holiday from hell? the port of doveris holiday from hell? the port of dover is building temporary marquees to check passports to avoid another weekend of travel chaos. drivers are being warned to expect big jams from today as nearly 70 million cars hit the road over this easter weekend . road over this easter weekend. aslef. as ever, we all know what you— aslef. as ever, we all know what you inini— aslef. as ever, we all know what you inini io— aslef. as ever, we all know what you inini io io. — aslef. as ever, we all know what you think to do. email us at gb

views— you think to do. email us at gb views oi— you think to do. email us at gb views at gbnews.uk . we're going views at gbnews.uk. we're going to views at gbnews.uk. we're going io gei— views at gbnews.uk. we're going io gei oii— views at gbnews.uk. we're going io gei oii ine— views at gbnews.uk. we're going to get all the latest headlines wiin— to get all the latest headlines now with rhiannon jones . thank now with rhiannon jones. thank you,— now with rhiannon jones. thank you. anirew. — now with rhiannon jones. thank you, andrew. good— now with rhiannon jones. thank you, andrew. l: g you, andrew. good morning. it's 11:02. your top stories from the gb newsroom counter—terrorism officers along with those who tackle serious organised crime, have been drafted in to help clean up the met police workforce . commissioner sir mark workforce. commissioner sir mark rowley believes there are hundreds of corrupt officers who shouldn't be in the job and he wants to weed them out of more than 1000 cases, nearly 700 will be reassigned west with almost 200 referred to formal risk management or vetting figures also reveal 161 serving met officers have criminal convictions . former scottish convictions. former scottish first minister nicola sturgeon has pulled out of a climate change event this evening after her husband was released from custody without charge . the home custody without charge. the home of ms. sturgeon and the former

snp chief executive remains cordoned off pending further investigation . an peter murrell investigation. an peter murrell was arrested as part of a probe into snp finances, including £600,000 set aside for scotland's independence campaign. mr. john insists she had no prior knowledge of police plans or intentions aeons ahead of her resignation in february . of her resignation in february. a 23 year old man has denied murdering beautician elle edwards in merseyside. connor chapman pleaded not guilty at liverpool crown court. appearing by video link from manchester prison. he's also charged with possessing a submachine gun with intent to endanger life. 26 year old miss edwards was shot dead in the lighthouse pub in wirral just before midnight on christmas eve . sir keir starmer christmas eve. sir keir starmer has promised to introduce specialist rape courts if labour wins the next election. it comes amid a record backlog in the courts, which sees victims face an average three year wait for

justice. government analysis shows the number of rape survivors dropping their cases has more than doubled since 2015. sir keir has described the state of the justice system under the conservatives as a national scandal. under the conservatives as a national scandal . a new research national scandal. a new research has found more than 45,000 burglaries reported last year were unattended by police in england . data obtained by the england. data obtained by the lib dems shows more than 120 break ins a day took place without an officer visiting the scene. 75% of cases were found to be closed without identifying a suspect . the party has a suspect. the party has referred to it as a postcode lottery and is calling for officers to be legally required to visit victims . drivers face to visit victims. drivers face major travel disruption over the easter weekend , with up to 17 easter weekend, with up to 17 million cars predicted to hit the road . research by the rac the road. research by the rac shows 2.7 million car journeys are expected on both good friday and easter sunday. rail engineering work, including

closure of london, euston station all weekend, will make the roads even busier. travel expert simon calder told us it's the wrong time to be carrying out rail works. it's really odd that given even that the railway, which is of course, as we have talked about many times in desperate state in terms of losing one fifth of its passenger numbers , they've passenger numbers, they've desperately get people back . desperately get people back. and so what do they do? well, iney— and so what do they do? well, he siose— and so what do they do? well, they close everything down over iosier— they close everything down over iosier so— they close everything down over easter so that— they close everything down over easter so that exactly the peopie— easter so that exactly the peopie iney— easter so that exactly the people they need to attract peopie— people they need to attract peopie-ore— people they need to attract people are thinking , okay, people who are thinking, okay, weii— people who are thinking, okay, weii. iii— people who are thinking, okay, well, i'll switch _ people who are thinking, okay, well, i'll switch from road to roii— well, i'll switch from road to roii iusi— well, i'll switch from road to rail just look— well, i'll switch from road to rail just look at— well, i'll switch from road to rail just look at it and just inne— rail just look at it and just think, well,— rail just look at it and just think, well, i'm— rail just look at it and just think, well, i'm not going to power— think, well, i'm not going to bother with— think, well, i'm not going to bother with that. it looks an oisoiuie— bother with that. it looks an absolute mess.— bother with that. it looks an absolute mess. _ bother with that. it looks an absolute mess. g absolute mess. the government's approved a £48 million fund to make england's most dangerous roads safer . make england's most dangerous roads safer. the money will go towards improving signage and road markings as well as reducing congestion and emissions. allocations of which roads will receive the funding are based on data by the road

safety foundation , based on the safety foundation, based on the number of people killed and traffic levels. parliamentary under—secretary of state for roads and local transport, richard holden, told us they're trying to tackle the 27 worst roads around the country. this money is going to really- : i: itizi. this money is going to really help iives— money is going to really help save lives as— money is going to really help save lives as well. we estimate oouni— save lives as well. we estimate oouni ieo— save lives as well. we estimate around 750 doddie_ save lives as well. we estimate around 750 doddie fatalities or serious injuries— around 750 doddie fatalities or serious injuries will be preveniei— serious injuries will be prevented over the next 20 years by inis— prevented over the next 20 years by this investment— prevented over the next 20 years by this investment alongside inver— by this investment alongside driver behaviour— by this investment alongside driver behaviour are actually oi— driver behaviour are actually some of these— driver behaviour are actually some of these junctions and inese— some of these junctions and inese rooi— some of these junctions and these road surfaces are some of these road surfaces are some of he rnroio— these road surfaces are some of he noi-o issues— these road surfaces are some of the major issues we see when irying— the major issues we see when irying io— the major issues we see when we're trying to tackle issues oouni— we're trying to tackle issues oouni rooi— we're trying to tackle issues around road safety in the souniry— around road safety in the country. millions of mobile pnones— country. millions of mobile phones across— country. millions of mobile phones across the uk will sound an phones across the uk will sound on oiorn — phones across the uk will sound on oiorn inis— phones across the uk will sound an alarm this month in a new iesi— an alarm this month in a new iesi io— an alarm this month in a new iesi io worn— an alarm this month in a new test to warn the— an alarm this month in a new test to warn the public of ionger— test to warn the public of ionger .— test to warn the public of ionger . — test to warn the public of danger . the— test to warn the public of danger . danger. the alert systems intended for use in life threatening situations , threatening situations, including flooding and wildfire features the message will become i will come through at 3 p.m. on the 23rd of april and will

vibrate out for up to ten seconds. the test, though, is scheduled for saint george's day, and it clashes with major events, including the london marathon and premier league matches . marathon and premier league matches. hundreds of marathon and premier league matches . hundreds of patients matches. hundreds of patients with breast and prostate cancer could benefit from a new drug . could benefit from a new drug. the nhs approved tablet olaparib prevents cancerous cells from repairing their dna. prevents cancerous cells from repairing their dna . men with repairing their dna. men with advanced prostate cancer and women with early breast cancer at high risk of the disease. returning will be able to access it through nhs england. the institute of cancer research has called the decision life changing, saying the medicine gives patients a chance to live longer and healthier lives . and longer and healthier lives. and the us president has accepted an invite from the king for a state visit to the uk. the white house says joe biden had a very friendly chat with king charles over the phone. the president is due to visit northern ireland and the republic next week, but won't attend the coronation in may. he'll be represented

instead by his wife, jill . this instead by his wife, jill. this is gb news. we're bring you more as it happens. now, though, it's back to bev and . back to bev and. andrew do you think joe biden's sulking? not coming to the soronoioni— sulking? not coming to the coronation because- “q7 not coming to the coronation because it's the ini— coronation because it's the first coronation,— coronation because it's the first coronation, as we know, sis— first coronation, as we know, iess.— first coronation, as we know, since 1953. he— first coronation, as we know, since 1953. he was relegated to a since 1953. he was relegated to overy— since 1953. he was relegated to o very minor— since 1953. he was relegated to a very minor seat— since 1953. he was relegated to a very minor seat in westminster abbey— a very minor seat in westminster abbey oi— a very minor seat in westminster abbey oi ine— a very minor seat in westminster abbey at the queen's funeral. i souiinii. — abbey at the queen's funeral. i souiinii. i— abbey at the queen's funeral. i couldn't. i think— abbey at the queen's funeral. i couldn't. i think i— abbey at the queen's funeral. i couldn't. i think i caught a giinpse— couldn't. i think i caught a giinpse oi— couldn't. i think i caught a glimpse of him— couldn't. i think i caught a glimpse of him once. he was being— glimpse of him once. he was behind commonwealth leaders and i behind commonwealth leaders and i suspesi— behind commonwealth leaders and i suspesi nis— behind commonwealth leaders and i suspect his nose— behind commonwealth leaders and i suspect his nose was mightily put i suspect his nose was mightily pui oui— i suspect his nose was mightily pui oui oi— i suspect his nose was mightily pui oui oi ioini— i suspect his nose was mightily put out of joint and they can't reoiiy— put out of joint and they can't reoiiy roii— put out of joint and they can't really roll him _ put out of joint and they can't really roll him out in public iesouse— really roll him out in public because he's— really roll him out in public because he's barely capable of noiiing— because he's barely capable of holding-together- because he's barely capable of holding together . jizii: holding himself together. dodi they— holding himself together. dodi iney know— holding himself together. dodi iney inow nois— holding himself together. dodi they know he's a— holding himself together. jizii: ” long they know he's a risk. long journey plane. they know he's a risk. long. journey-plane.-will journey on a plane. people will ask-questions— journey on a plane. people will ask-questions .— journey on a plane. people will ask questions . they'll ask ask him questions. they'll ask nin— ask him questions. they'll ask nin-oioui- ask him questions. they'll ask. him-about-he's him questions about trump. he's got him questions about trump. he's goi-issues— him questions about trump. he's goi-issues oi— him questions about trump. he's got issues, of course, got his own issues, of course, oioui— got his own issues, of course, about - documents - got his own issues, of course, about documents that got his own issues, of course, abou�*found documents that got his own issues, of course, abou�*found doihome. s that got his own issues, of course, abou�*found doihome. right. got his own issues, of course, abotit'sind doihome. right. got his own issues, of course, abotit's amazingiihome. right. got his own issues, of course, abotit's amazingiihonsending1. but it's amazing just sending the but it's amazing just sending ins—ne— but it's amazing just sending ins—no is- but it's amazing just sendingj the—he is literally the first lady. he is literally i think every time he opens his mouth, something i know you know, and all the world heads of

state that will be there. but the leader of the free- ll but the leader of the free world won-i— the leader of the free world won-i ie. — the leader of the free world won-i ie. no— the leader of the free world won't be. he can't- the leader of the free world won't be. ii; iii?“ . ”iifillg the leader of the free world won't be. ii; iii?“ . ”cellar won't be. he can't really walk down plane stairs without falling a huge falling over like he's a huge risk to to the other side risk to take to the other side of world a big of the world for such a big state occasion. let's about state occasion. let's talk about onoiner— state occasion. let's talk about another world _ state occasion. let's talk about another world leader.- ” iii“ let's talk about another world leader. well, she wos—sniei— another world leader. well, she was chief executive was the former chief executive of was the former chief executive oi—ine — was the former chief executive of_the husband. was the former chief executivei of_the husband of of the snp and the husband of wisoio— of the snp and the husband of nicola sturgeon— of the snp and the husband of nicola sturgeon that's nicola sturgeon. that's peter iiurreii. — nicola sturgeon. that's peter murrell. released murrell. he's been released wiinoui— murrell. he's been released without—beingl without charge after being ieioinei— without charge after being detained questioned by the detained and questioned by the poiise— detained and questioned by the poiiselii— detained and questioned by the police-11 hours. _ detained and questioned by the police 11 hours. 3" police for 11 hours. sturgeon nos— police for 11 hours. sturgeon has pledged to fully cooperate with investigators following the arrest yesterday morning, which saw officers seen taping off and searching the couple's glasgow home. that forensic tent in the ironi— home. that forensic tent in the ironi gorien— home. that forensic tent in the ironi gorien. — home. that forensic tent in the front garden. i— home. that forensic tent in the front garden. i still- that forensic tent in the front garden. ll g front garden. i still think it's really weird. i mean, it must just searching her bins . i just just searching her bins. i just don't understand it. i mean, if he if he was burning documents or whatever, you know, if that's the allegation , then surely the allegation, then surely he wouldn't be sticking them in his own barbecue. you wouldn't bury documents your lawn. i documents under your lawn. i mean, this is all to do with the eeoeooo— mean, this is all to do with the eeoeooo oi— mean, this is all to do with the £600,000 of snp— mean, this is all to do with the £600,000 of snp money, which oppoieniiy— £600,000 of snp money, which apparently wasn't— £600,000 of snp money, which apparently wasn't spent the way it apparently wasn't spent the way ii snouii— apparently wasn't spent the way it should have— apparently wasn't spent the way it should have been. and also neis—ine- it should have been. and also

he's—the loansi he's got to explain the loans inoi— he's got to explain the loans no ne— he's got to explain the loans we is gove— he's got to explain the loans that he gave to— he's got to explain the loans that he gave to the snp back in zero.— that he gave to the snp back in zone i— that he gave to the snp back in zone i neon— that he gave to the snp back in 2019. i mean, £7,000 he didn't iesiore— 2019. i mean, £7,000 he didn't declare - declared - 2019. i mean, £7,000 he didn't declare declared this is declare wasn't declared this is oioy— declare wasn't declared this is oioy yov— declare wasn't declared this is okay you've heard _ declare wasn't declared this is okay you've heard me joke about his— okay you've heard me joke about ins—wiin- okay you've heard me joke about mps—with cash. mps filling suitcases with cash iiie— mps filling suitcases with cash iiie ii— mps filling suitcases with cash iiie ii neis— mps filling suitcases with cash like if he's literally a like if he's literally filled a suiisose— like if he's literally filled a suitcase with— like if he's literally filled a suitcase with all this cash and neis— suitcase with all this cash and neis-in— suitcase with all this cash and ne-s-in nis- suitcase with all this cash and he's in his garden, he's buried it in his garden, inen— he's buried it in his garden, inenlnigni— he's buried it in his garden, thenlmight just- he's buried it in his garden, then might just officially then i might just officially reiire— then i might just officially retire-here- then i might just officiallyi retire-here-be retire my work here will be ione. — retire my work here will be ione. -iui— retire my work here will be ione. -iui i- retire my work here will be done. but i don't think done. yeah, but i don't think inoiis— done. yeah, but i don't think that's what's— done. yeah, but i don't think that's what's happening. we're going—nowl that's what's happening. we're- going—now wnere going to go to glasgow now where we_our scotland- we can talk to our scotland reponer.— we can talk to our scotland reponei. iony— we can talk to our scotland reporter, tony mcguire. tony iois— reporter, tony mcguire. tony iois oi— reporter, tony mcguire. tony lots of speculation that there souii — lots of speculation that therej souii—puiiei lots of speculation that there i could _ pulled in could be more people pulled in for questioning— could be more people pulled in for questioning and potentially even arrested— for questioning and potentially even arrested .— for questioning and potentially even arrested . you “4115 cf" even arrested. you yes. can i iusi— even arrested. you yes. can i iusi soy— even arrested. you yes. can i iusi soy o— even arrested. you yes. can i just say a quick exchange there? it very much makes it bad. but certainly quite, you know , certainly quite, you know, anyone who thought that perhaps day to day would die down a little bit was sorely mistaken over last hour, we've just over the last hour, we've just seen entering exit the property , including in the last five minutes, quite a lot of plain clothes as well. now with a police van pull up. sorry to

interrupt you . sorry. the line interrupt you. sorry. the line is very— interrupt you. sorry. the line is very poor. — interrupt you. sorry. the line is very poor. we're- sorry. the line is very poor. we're going to neon— is very poor. we're going to ireoi oii— is very poor. we're going to break off from _ is very poor. we're going to break off from tony. we're going to break off from tony. we're going io ioii— break off from tony. we're going io ioir io— break off from tony. we're going io ioir io ine— break off from tony. we're going to talk to the huffpost poiiiisoi— to talk to the huffpost political editor kevin schofield, - political editor kevin schofield, who just happens to be schofield, who just happens to is o— schofield, who just happens to is o very— schofield, who just happens to be a very seasoned scot and knows— be a very seasoned scot and knows ine— be a very seasoned scot and knows the snp _ be a very seasoned scot and knows the snp better than most. kevin— knows the snp better than most. kevin-on— knows the snp better than most. kevin an extraordinary , kevin this is an extraordinary, evirooriinory— kevin this is an extraordinary, extraordinary story . extraordinary story. certainly as. andrew yeah, quite a dramatic reversal in fortunes. i mean, it's only what, 6 or 7 weeks since nicola sturgeon stood down, took the political world by surprise, by by standing down and yesterday's developments were, yeah, quite remarkable . all the sight of you remarkable. all the sight of you know, a tent in the front garden, a police tent in the front garden of former first minister and police officers coming and going . uh, really not coming and going. uh, really not anything that you would expect to see, quite frankly . and the to see, quite frankly. and the repercussions of this could be huge. and also puts more pressure on humza yousaf nicola sturgeon successor. just a couple of weeks after he took on the job, kevin does has nicola sturgeon traditionally had a good relationship with the

police in scotland or not? because this looks like they've oveieggei— because this looks like they've oveieggei ine— because this looks like they've overegged the pudding here. this iooks— overegged the pudding here. this iooks iike— overegged the pudding here. this iooks iike o— overegged the pudding here. this looks like a huge— overegged the pudding here. this looks like a huge display of poiise— looks like a huge display of poiise iorse — looks like a huge display of police force .— looks like a huge display of police force . is— looks like a huge display of police force . is she popular police force. is she popular wiin— police force. is she popular wiin ine— police force. is she popular with the police— police force. is she popular with the police ? ”it; with the police? i'm not sure whether she's popular or not. obviously there has to be quite rightly a distinction , a rightly a distinction, a distancing of the relationship really between politicians and the police. the police must be independent and be allowed to get on with their work regardless of who it is that they're investigating. so i don't think there's question they're investigating. so i doher:hink there's question they're investigating. so i do her not: there's question they're investigating. so i do her not being 's question they're investigating. so i do her not being popular. tion they're investigating. so i do her not being popular. ion of her not being popular. i think it's the police for whatever reason. obviously, it's difficult to second guess exactly what they're doing in their investigations. but this is police being as thorough as possible obviously. yeah, possible, obviously. yeah, you're a you're right. it has raised a few the that it's few eyebrows the way that it's been but, know , they been done. but, you know, they may quite standard for may well be quite standard for this type of investigation . and this type of investigation. and as you say, mr. murrell was questioned for 11 hours. um at falkirk police station yesterday and released last night without charge, pending further investigation. think this

investigation. so i think this inquiry certainly has still quite a way to run. was quite a long way to run. she was due to make a major speech tonight, kevin, climate tonight, kevin, on climate change. she's pulled out clearly . sne— change. she's pulled out clearly . sne knows— change. she's pulled out clearly , she knows there's— fg she's pulled out clearly , she knows there's going , she knows there's only going to , she knows there's only going io ie— , she knows there's only going to be-question_ , she knows there's only going to be-question in- , she knows there's only going to be question in town. what to be one question in town. what did to be one question in town. what iii—wnoi— to be one question in town. what iii—wnoi-snel did she know? what does she knowi— did she know? what does she knows—ie- know? is she going to be guesiionei— know? is she going to be questioned police , know? is she going to be- questioned-police , too? questioned by the police, too? reson— questioned by the police, too? veon. no— questioned by the police, too? veon. no reoi— questioned by the police, too? yeah, no real surprise- questioned by the police, too? yeah, no real surprise that- yeah, no real surprise that she's pulled out of this public appearance . i think, as you say, appearance. i think, as you say, it would completely overshadow. it was a climate change event. it was a climate change event. it would completely overshadow that event. and guys like me would would be desperate to get her thoughts on what is going on. so i think she's quite, quite wisely keeping her head down. like down. she's probably like the rest wondering where rest of us, just wondering where this is to go next. this story is going to go next. lately, we really are. thank you.— lately, we really are. thank you. kevin— lately, we really are. thank you. kevin huffpost uk , you. kevin huffpost uk, poiiiisoi— you. kevin huffpost uk, political editor. kevin schofield _ political editor. kevin schofield . - political editor. kevin schofield . /i:::i. political editor. kevin schofield. /i:::i. " political editor. kevin— schofield . you say in the trade schofield. you say in the trade that one's going to run and run and run. i'm going to send tony iioguire— and run. i'm going to send tony iioguire io— and run. i'm going to send tony iioguire io go— and run. i'm going to send tony maguire to go and— fwi: " i'm going to send tony maguire to go and have a fwii: " i'm going to send tony maguire to go and have a look unie— maguire to go and have a look unier inoi— maguire to go and have a look under that blue— maguire to go and have a look under that blue tent. what is in inoi— under that blue tent. what is in we goriene— under that blue tent. what is in that garden? i'm— under that blue tent. what is in that garden? i'm so gutted that we iosi— that garden? i'm so gutted that we iosi nin— that garden? i'm so gutted that we lost him there.— that garden? i'm so gutted that we lost him there. yeah, i mean ,_ppg_ we lost him there. yeah, i mean ,_ppg o- we lost him there. yeah, i mean ,_ppg o workl , maybe it's just like a work ining.— , maybe it's just like a work ining. ioon.— , maybe it's just like a work thing. room. like an evidence

iose— thing. room. like an evidence iose wnere— thing. room. like an evidence base where they— thing. room. like an evidence base where they were . �*vaiiizriz; base where they were. were they digging up the garden ? i digging up the garden? i honestly , it baffles me. anyway honestly, it baffles me. anyway , let us know what— honestly, it baffles me. anyway , let us know what you- g anyway , let us know what you think. gb views.— , let us know what you think. gb views. sn— , let us know what you think. gb views. gb news.— , let us know what you think. gb views. gb news. .uk is the email oiiress— views. gb news. .uk is the email oiiress. — views. gb news. .uk is the email oiiress. wow— views. gb news. .uk is the email address . now here's— views. gb news. .uk is the email address . \ii:::iiui address. now here's another remarkable story. nearly 200 serving police staff with past accusations of sex crimes or domestic abuse. some of them have got convictions for sexual offences. going to be risk offences. are going to be risk assessed. all over again. absolutely. is the already under fire absolutely. is the already under iire nei— absolutely. is the already under fire met police— absolutely. is the already under fire met police force continues to fire met police force continues io iry— fire met police force continues io iry oni— fire met police force continues to try and change— fire met police force continues to try and change its culture. nunireis— to try and change its culture. hundreds more— to try and change its culture. hundreds more officers and staff are hundreds more officers and staff noving— hundreds more officers and staff noving oii— hundreds more officers and staff are having old allegations re—examined_ are having old allegations re—examined . - are having old allegations re—examined . op. " are having old allegations re—examined . cjc.” ”it; re—examined. our reporter paul hawkins is at scotland yard for us now. paul, we're still jaws dropping that there are people with convictions for sex offences. still serving offences. we're still serving police officers . yeah andrew, police officers. yeah andrew, it's quite a remarkable update from the met police chief mark rowley . in this letter to suella rowley. in this letter to suella braverman, the _ 3 in this letter to suella braverman, the home secretary, oni— braverman, the home secretary, oni oiso— braverman, the home secretary, oni oiso ine— braverman, the home secretary, and also the mayor of london, soiig— and also the mayor of london, soiig knon— and also the mayor of london, sadiq khan, updating them on inoi— sadiq khan, updating them on that investigation into more inon— that investigation into more inon iose— that investigation into more than 1000 officers. rhiannon

iesi— than 1000 officers. rhiannon best re—investigated for sexual vioiense— best re—investigated for sexual vioiense oni— best re—investigated for sexual violence and domestic abuse . 90 violence and domestic abuse. 90 oiiisers— violence and domestic abuse. 90 oiiisers. in— violence and domestic abuse. 90 officers, in fact,— violence and domestic abuse. 90 officers, in fact, extra oiiisers— officers, in fact, extra officers have- officers, in fact, extra officers have been taken away iron— officers have been taken away from terrorism,— officers have been taken away from terrorism, away from spesioi— from terrorism, away from special operations and drafted in io— special operations and drafted in io neip— special operations and drafted in io neip ine— special operations and drafted in to help the met's team. that is ieoiing— in to help the met's team. that is dealing with— in to help the met's team. that is dealing with this and all inis— is dealing with this and all his soning— is dealing with this and all this coming, of— is dealing with this and all this coming, of course , as the this coming, of course, as the iiei— this coming, of course, as the iiei-io— this coming, of course, as the met-to improve- this coming, of course, as the met to improve the public met tries to improve the public ievei— met tries to improve the public ievei oi— met tries to improve the public level of trust— met tries to improve the public level of trust and— met tries to improve the public level of trust and confidence in the level of trust and confidence in he iorse— level of trust and confidence in he iorse .— level of trust and confidence in the force . following the the force. following the publication— the force. following the publication of the casey report . wnisn— publication of the casey report . wnisn soii— publication of the casey report , which said there— publication of the casey report , which said there was rampant misogyny— , which said there was rampant nisogyny .— , which said there was rampant misogyny , institutional racism misogyny, institutional racism wiinin— misogyny, institutional racism wiinin ine— misogyny, institutional racism within the force— misogyny, institutional racism within the force itself . and of within the force itself. and of woyne— within the force itself. and of course, wayne cousins and david sorrisk— course, wayne cousins and david sorrisk os— course, wayne cousins and david carrick as well,— course, wayne cousins and david carrick as well, really damaging the reputation— carrick as well, really damaging the reputation of— carrick as well, really damaging the reputation of the metropolitan police. this is all pari— metropolitan police. this is all pon oi— metropolitan police. this is all pon oi inoi— metropolitan police. this is all part of that process . and in his part of that process. and in his ieiier— part of that process. and in his ieiier ne— part of that process. and in his ieiier ne os— part of that process. and in his letter he was updating them on the letter he was updating them on ins—so— letter he was updating them on ine—so ior. - letter he was updating them on ine—so ior. so- the investigation. so far. so iusi— the investigation. so far. so iusi io— the investigation. so far. so iusi io ioke— the investigation. so far. so just to take you— the investigation. so far. so just to take you through some of the statistics,— just to take you through some of the statistics, it's— just to take you through some of the statistics, it's involving inis— the statistics, it's involving this investigation. then 1131 individuals— this investigation. then 1131 individuals reinvestigate . and individuals reinvestigate. and zeo— individuals reinvestigate. and zee wiii— individuals reinvestigate. and 246 will face— individuals reinvestigate. and 246 will face no— individuals reinvestigate. and 246 will face no formal action iesouse— 246 will face no formal action because correct— 246 will face no formal action because correct action was taken at because correct action was taken oi ine— because correct action was taken oi ine ine— because correct action was taken at the time. 689— because correct action was taken

at the time. 689 will undergo a new assessment— at the time. 689 will undergo a new assessment to _ at the time. 689 will undergo a new assessment to pursue new or nissei— new assessment to pursue new or nissei iines— new assessment to pursue new or nissei iines oi— new assessment to pursue new or missed lines of inquiry, insiuiing— missed lines of inquiry, including possibly talking again to including possibly talking again io visiins— including possibly talking again to victims and— including possibly talking again to victims and witnesses. 196 iose— to victims and witnesses. 196 iose iornoi— to victims and witnesses. 196 face formal risk— to victims and witnesses. 196 face formal risk management measures and potentially a io— measures and potentially a review to determine if they snouii — review to determine if they should remain— review to determine if they should remain in the force. now oiso— should remain in the force. now oiso in— should remain in the force. now oiso in inis— should remain in the force. now also in this letter— should remain in the force. now also in this letter ,_ should remain in the force. now also in this letter , mark rowley also in this letter, mark rowley soie— also in this letter, mark rowley soii inoi— also in this letter, mark rowley soii inoi iei— also in this letter, mark rowley said that 161 met— also in this letter, mark rowley said that 161 met officers have srininoi— said that 161 met officers have criminal convictions. of these 76 criminal convictions. of these is ior— criminal convictions. of these 76 for serious— criminal convictions. of these 76 for serious traffic offences . so — 76 for serious traffic offences . so inings— 76 for serious traffic offences . so things like— 76 for serious traffic offences . so things like drink driving, 49 . so things like drink driving, ee ior— . so things like drink driving, 49 for dishonesty or violence eigni— 49 for dishonesty or violence eight committed— 49 for dishonesty or violence eight committed the offences as poiise— eight committed the offences as police officers— eight committed the offences as police officers and— eight committed the offences as police officers and are still wiin— police officers and are still win ine— police officers and are still with the force— police officers and are still with the force and three have sonvisiions— with the force and three have convictions for— with the force and three have convictions for sexual offences. iiork— convictions for sexual offences. iiork isowiey— convictions for sexual offences. mark rowley also— convictions for sexual offences. mark rowley also says that all eeooo— mark rowley also says that all eeooo sioii— mark rowley also says that all 50,000 staff and _ mark rowley also says that all 50,000 staff and serving oiiisers— 50,000 staff and serving officers within- 50,000 staff and serving officers within the met are being— officers within the met are being none— officers within the met are being name checked against the poiise— being name checked against the police national— being name checked against the police national database. iney-ve— police national database. they've done— police national database. they've done 10,000 of those eeooo— they've done 10,000 of those eeooo so— they've done 10,000 of those 50,000 so far,— they've done 10,000 of those 50,000 so far, 38— they've done 10,000 of those 50,000 so far, 38 potential oi— 50,000 so far, 38 potential cases of misconduct , 55 cases of cases of misconduct, 55 cases of off cases of misconduct, 55 cases of oii iuiy— cases of misconduct, 55 cases of off duty associates— cases of misconduct, 55 cases of off duty associates with a srininoi—

off duty associates with a criminal in— off duty associates with a criminal in the- off duty associates with a criminal in the next six months, he criminal in the next six months, is soys— criminal in the next six months, ne soys oioui— criminal in the next six months, he says about 100— criminal in the next six months, he says about 100 officers may nove— he says about 100 officers may nove io— he says about 100 officers may have to leave— he says about 100 officers may have to leave the— he says about 100 officers may have to leave the organisation . have to leave the organisation. he have to leave the organisation. ne soys— have to leave the organisation. ne soys inoi— have to leave the organisation. he says that there— have to leave the organisation. he says that there could be nunireis— he says that there could be hundreds over— he says that there could be hundreds over the next 2 to 3 yeors— hundreds over the next 2 to 3 yeors oni— hundreds over the next 2 to 3 yeois oni in— hundreds over the next 2 to 3 years and in fact— hundreds over the next 2 to 3 years and in fact he's considering- years and in fact he's considering banning anyone with sonvisiions— considering banning anyone with convictions except— considering banning anyone with convictions except the most rninor— convictions except the most minor offences— convictions except the most minor offences .— convictions except the most minor offences . all of this to minor offences. all of this to try minor offences. all of this to iry oni— minor offences. all of this to try and re—establish public irusi— try and re—establish public irusi oni— try and re—establish public trust and confidence in the organisation. _ trust and confidence in the organisation. in— trust and confidence in the organisation. in fact, there's a ens— organisation. in fact, there's a ens vousov— organisation. in fact, there's a bbc yougov survey today that soys— bbc yougov survey today that soys iooo — bbc yougov survey today that says 1000 people— bbc yougov survey today that says 1000 people surveyed and oinosi— says 1000 people surveyed and oinosi noii— says 1000 people surveyed and almost half of— says 1000 people surveyed and almost half of women told iisirusiei— almost half of women told distrusted the— almost half of women told distrusted the met. and we've oiso— distrusted the met. and we've oiso neori— distrusted the met. and we've also heard today— distrusted the met. and we've also heard today from the snoirnon— also heard today from the chairman of— also heard today from the chairman of london's police and crime— chairman of london's police and crime committee,— chairman of london's police and crime committee, susan hall, who sonneniing— crime committee, susan hall, who sonneniing on— crime committee, susan hall, who commenting on sir— crime committee, susan hall, who commenting on sir rowley's iiniings— commenting on sir rowley's iiniings. soys— commenting on sir rowley's findings, says that things are going— findings, says that things are going io— findings, says that things are going io gei— findings, says that things are going to get much worse before iney— going to get much worse before he gei— going to get much worse before he gei ieiier— going to get much worse before they get better when it comes to they get better when it comes to the metropolitan _ they get better when it comes to the metropolitan police. okay inonk— the metropolitan police. okay inonk you.— the metropolitan police. okay thank you, paul. iuiy thank you, paul. thank you very much. i trust the police. i'm a woman. trust police . but woman. i trust the police. but the met has become basket the met has become a basket nui— the met has become a basket eui io— the met has become a basket case. but do know what eight case. but do you know what eight of case. but do you know what eight oi-oiienses— case. but do you know what eight of-offences were— case. but do you know what eight of offences were committed of those offences were committed wnere—poiisel where they were serving police oiiisers— officers in their stolen uniiorne— officers in their stolen- uniform?-baffling. but uniform? that is baffling. but you—wnoil uniform? that is baffling. but. you—wnoi wiii you see what you know what will help restore faith in the police, crimes. just solve police, solve crimes. just solve

our crimes when _ police, solve crimes. just solve our crimes when we— itizi; if.” just solve our crimes when we when we call oni— our crimes when we when we call oni we— our crimes when we when we call oni we repon— our crimes when we when we call oni we repon o— our crimes when we when we call and we report a crime, solve it, inen— and we report a crime, solve it, inen weiii— and we report a crime, solve it, then we'll trust— and we report a crime, solve it, then we'll trust you. iifig then we'll trust you. maybe see a then we'll trust you. maybe see o ioiiy— then we'll trust you. maybe see a bobby on the beat that would be nice. like a blue moon, right? conservative mp scott nenion. — right? conservative mp scott nenion. ne— right? conservative mp scott benton. he had— right? conservative mp scott benton. he had the- ” g 7 conservative mp scott benton. he had the party whip suspeniei.— benton. he had the party whip suspeniei. ne— benton. he had the party whip suspended. he was filmed oiiering— suspended. he was filmed offering help— suspended. he was filmed offering help to the gambling iniusiry— offering help to the gambling iniusiry in— offering help to the gambling industry in exchange for iinonsioi— industry in exchange for financial reward . �*vaiiizi; industry in exchange for- financial reward . we know he's financial reward. we know he's stupid and greedy, but we're asking our mps for hire. stupid and greedy, but we're asking our mps for hire . and do asking our mps for hire. and do they have too little to do too well with us this morning? is well with us this morning? is well conservative mp, but we know— well conservative mp, but we know .— well conservative mp, but we know . os— well conservative mp, but we know . os en— well conservative mp, but we know , as gb news presenter know, as gb news presenter iniiip— know, as gb news presenter philip davies— know, as gb news presenter philip davies ,_ know, as gb news presenter philip davies , as well as gb philip davies, as well as gb news— philip davies, as well as gb news investigates reporter snoriie— news investigates reporter charlie peters. _ news investigates reporter charlie peters. on news investigates reporter- charlie peters.-on earth charlie peters. now why on earth wouii— charlie peters. now why on earth wouii we— charlie peters. now why on earth wouii we nove— charlie peters. now why on earth would we have you— charlie peters. now why on earth would we have you two in the siuiio— would we have you two in the siuiio io— would we have you two in the studio to-about- would we have you two in the studio to about this story? studio to talk about this story? ieii— studio to talk about this story? ieii-wnoi— studio to talk about this story? tell what happened. phil tell us what happened. phil visii— tell us what happened. phil weii. i— tell us what happened. phil weii. i os— tell us what happened. phil well, i was approached by this inis— well, i was approached by this his ioke— well, i was approached by this this fake company to our ponners. — this fake company to our partners. the- this fake company to our partners. /i::is this fake company to our partners. /iis partners. the same one, yes. they got to me saying that they were representing a rich indian billionaire or something and they wanted to invest in the uk and they wanted somebody to help them in in politics. and they identified me. now i replied and said, look, one mps aren't

allowed to lobby on behalf of businesses to mps are not allowed to give parliamentary advice. three i'm not interested in a job, but look, if you if you still want to meet, i'm very happy to. but given the above, you probably don't want to. and they replied back and said, well, we'd like they replied back and said, wemeet we'd like they replied back and said, wemeet up we'd like they replied back and said, wemeet up with e'd like they replied back and said, wemeet up with you. like they replied back and said, wemeet up with you. actually so to meet up with you. actually so i thought it was was very fishy , but i thought it was too good a journalistic opportunity to pass and so contacted pass up. and so contacted charlie, who did a lot of the background research into this company which just and harnessed our view that this was very fishy . and so we went along to fishy. and so we went along to hear what they had to say and how they and how they did it because it too good because it was too good a journalistic opportunity to miss, it? so what did you miss, wasn't it? so what did you iine— miss, wasn't it? so what did you no, snoriie— miss, wasn't it? so what did you find, charlie, when— miss, wasn't it? so what did you find, charlie, when phil- g .7 so what did you find, charlie, when phil spoke g .7 so what did you find, c and e, when phil spoke g .7 so what did you find, c and e, withis’hil spoke g .7 so what did you find, c and e, withis ?il spoke g .7 so what did you find, c and e, withis ? this)ke g .7 so what did you find, c and e, withis ? this ls! g .7 so what did you find, c and e, withis ? this is a g .7 so what did you finiwhiffyje, withis ? this is a g .7 so what did you finiwhiffyje, wiobviousiis is a g .7 so what did you finiwhiffyje, wiobvious examples bit whiffy many obvious examples of fraudulence. _ bit whiffy many obvious examples of fraudulence. so _ bit whiffy many obvious examples of fraudulence. iiii of fraudulence. so the office didn't exist. i turned up there pretending to be a delivery man and the receptionist no idea and the receptionist had no idea who partners were. i phoned who to partners were. i phoned their landline. it put to an their landline. it put me to an

overflow company . i asked them overflow company. i asked them how be taking calls overflow company. i asked them hovto be taking calls overflow company. i asked them hovto partners! taking calls overflow company. i asked them hovto partners and ing calls overflow company. i asked them hovto partners and they alls for to our partners and they said right said four days. right the linkedin profile for this william kent, we now know, is a senior investigative journalist at times zero followers and at the times zero followers and didn't exist until the week before. were almost before. so we were almost certain it was sting. but certain it was a sting. but actually small of us actually a small part of us really it an really hoped that it was an incompetent foreign family trying off mps and we trying to mug off mps and we could possibly get an alternative sting there. so we went this meeting. i think went to this meeting. i think with all opportunities on the table, hoping for either story . table, hoping for either story. but apparent but it quickly became apparent that our original. so you turned the that our original. so you turned ins-on— that our original. so you turned the-on-stingers? . the tables on the stingers? yesi _ the tables on the stingers? yes. -vsry- the tables on the stingers? yes,-very bizarre. yes, it was a very bizarre situation in i was sat situation in which i was sat next philip in this meeting next to philip in this meeting where were two sets of where there were two sets of investigative where there were two sets of investigeach other, is not filming each other, which is not a particularly normal way to spend your thursday morning. and smelt a rat. no, and they never smelt a rat. no, oisoiuieiy— and they never smelt a rat. no, absolutely not. _ and they never smelt a rat. no, absolutely not. well,— and they never smelt a rat. no, absolutely not. well, they clearly watch gb clearly don't watch enough gb news charlie, because they'd have you have known exactly who you were. oh, disguised as an oh, i was. i was disguised as an art wouldn't have art student. they wouldn't have picked when were, art student. they wouldn't have pick it when were, art student. they wouldn't have pick it when when were, art student. they wouldn't have pick it when you when were, art student. they wouldn't have pick it when you werei were, art student. they wouldn't have pick it when you were talkingere, art student. they wouldn't have pick it when you were talking to , was it when you were talking to them, philip, did did it seem even to you? well, even more obvious to you? well, to honest, very to be honest, they were very good — to be honest, they were very good _werei to be honest, they were very- gooi. _were very. good. were they? they were very, very— good. were they? they were very, very-nove—

good. were they? they were very, very-nove io — good. were they? they were very, very-nove io soy- good. were they? they were very, very have to say that. very good. i have to say that. so very good. i have to say that. so i— very good. i have to say that. so i weni— very good. i have to say that. so i went there— very good. i have to say that. so i went there knowing my so i went there knowing in my own-ins— so i went there knowing in my own-inis os— so i went there knowing in my own _this was lfake- so i went there knowing in my own this was fake company so i went there knowing in my own we're this was fake company so i went there knowing in my own we're just was fake company so i went there knowing in my own we're just trying fake company so i went there knowing in my own we're just trying to (e company so i went there knowing in my own we're just trying to do :ompany and we're just trying to do a sing.— and we're just trying to do a sing—iine- and we're just trying to do a sting._time the. sting. and by the time the neeiing— sting. and by the time the- meeting—wasn't meeting had finished, i wasn't so—inoi- meeting had finished, i wasn'ti so—inoi-were so sure anymore that they were a ioke— so sure anymore that they were a ioke sonpony. — so sure anymore that they were a fake company. really. they were very.— fake company. really. they were very—i— fake company. really. they were very—i neon- fake company. really. they were very,_| mean, there. very, very good. i mean, there o inere— very, very good. i mean, there was a there was— very, very good. i mean, there was a there was still the things inoi—up— was a there was still the thingsj that—up,-actually that didn't add up, but actually were— that didn't add up, but actually inere—o- that didn't add up, but actually there—a chance there was a there was a chance inoi— there was a there was a chance we iney— there was a there was a chance we iney-o— there was a there was a chance that they a legitimate that they were a legitimate sonpony— that they were a legitimate sonpony. iney— that they were a legitimate company. they actually existed. but company. they actually existed. eui-irying— company. they actually existed. nui-irying io- company. they actually existed. but-trying to act- company. they actually existed. but trying to act in but we're just trying to act in a but we're just trying to act in o-oi— but we're just trying to act in o-oi sorrupi— but we're just trying to act in a of corrupt manner. yeah. a sort of corrupt manner. yeah. ani— a sort of corrupt manner. yeah. ani inoi-s— a sort of corrupt manner. yeah. and that's how— a sort of corrupt manner. yeah. and that's how good they were iesouse— and that's how good they were iesouse i— and that's how good they were because i went— and that's how good they were because i went knowing that they wees-ornpony— because i went knowing that they wees-ornpony ii— because i went knowing that they were company, if you were a fake company, if you see wnoi— were a fake company, if you see wnoi i— were a fake company, if you see wnoi i neon— were a fake company, if you see what i mean. and— were a fake company, if you see what i mean. and i— were a fake company, if you see what i mean. and i still. so you know.— what i mean. and i still. so you know-you— what i mean. and i still. so you know-you osk— what i mean. and i still. so you know, you ask them know, when you ask them a guesiion— know, when you ask them a question,-ask- know, when you ask them a question, ask them question, when i ask them guesiions— question, when i ask them questions _thel question, when i ask them - questions _the family questions about who the family wag—pegged- was, why is it they needed soneioiy— was, why is it they needed. somebody—with somebody to help them with regulation— somebody to help them with regulation _they- somebody to help them with regulation they were regulation when all they were doing— regulation when all they were doing-investing- regulation when all they were doing investing companies regulation when all they were doinalreadyivesting companies regulation when all they were doin alreadyivestipeople ompanies regulation when all they were doin alreadyivestipeople ompé did; that already had people who did regulation?— regulation.7 all these sorts of things.— regulation.7 all these sorts of. things.—beat things. they never missed a beat with—om— things. they never missed a beat with—om they- things. they never missed a beat with _did they offer. with an answer. did they offer you and if so, how much.7 you money? and if so, how much.7 no, we you money? and if so, how much? no, we never i mean, i made no, we never got i mean, i made it no, we never got i mean, i made n-uke— no, we never got i mean, i made n-uke i— no, we never got i mean, i made n-uke i say,— no, we never got i mean, i made it-like i say,-from- it clear, like i say, right from the— it clear, like i say, right from the word— it clear, like i say, right from the word-i— it clear, like i say, right from the word-i didn't- it clear, like i say, right from the word i didn't want the word go, i didn't want a job.— the word go, i didn't want a job-hasn't— the word go, i didn't want a job. wasn't interested job. iwasn't interested in a job.— job. iwasn't interested in a job. and— job. iwasn't interested in a job. and .— job. i wasn't interested in a job. and i-that- job. i wasn't interested in a job. and i that clear in job. and i made that clear in the— job. and i made that clear in the-them.- job. and i made that clear in the-them-n the email to them. i made it d...— the email to them. i made it clear-in— the email to them. i made it clear-in-meetingl clear again in the meeting with them — clear again in the meeting with them _._ clear again in the meeting with them—t ween-t- them that it was i wasn't interested.— them that it was i wasn't interested. i— them that it was i wasn't interested. i also made it clear to interested. i also made it clear te-h— interested. i also made it clear te-h the— interested. i also made it clear to-in the meeting- interested. i also made it clear to in the meeting well. to them in the meeting as well. i to them in the meeting as well. t—they-t- to them in the meeting as well. t—they-t wehtl i have no idea why they'd want to i have no idea why they'd want te—te- i have no idea why they'd want te—te the-

i have no idea why they'd wanti to_do the stuff to employ an mp to do the stuff they— to employ an mp to do the stuff they-tethe— to employ an mp to do the stuff they-eethg tet— to employ an mp to do the stuff they asking for anyway, so they were asking for anyway, so , you — they were asking for anyway, so , you thew. — they were asking for anyway, so ,yo. thew. hut— they were asking for anyway, so , you know. but but they were. the— , you know. but but they were. tve get— , you know. but but they were. tve get to— , you know. but but they were. i've got to take— , you know. but but they were. i've got to take my hat off to to the — i've got to take my hat off to to the reporters. _ i've got to take my hat off to to the reporters. they were very,— to the reporters. they were very, very— to the reporters. they were very, very geot— to the reporters. they were very, very good .- to the reporters. they were very, very good . they'd done very, very good. they'd done tote— very, very good. they'd done tote ent— very, very good. they'd done lots and lots— very, very good. they'd done lots and lots of— very, very good. they'd done lots and lots of research and prehetetteh— lots and lots of research and preparation and— lots and lots of research and preparation and practise they never missed— preparation and practise they never missed a— preparation and practise they never missed a beat. whenever you— never missed a beat. whenever you aet— never missed a beat. whenever you oet them— never missed a beat. whenever you ask them any— never missed a beat. whenever you ask them any kind of queettoh— you ask them any kind of queettoh ot— you ask them any kind of question at all. ' z you ask them any kind of question at all. ' “2 2 2 question at all. and so did you take your painter's smock or take off your painter's smock or whatever it that were whatever it was that you were wearing to disguise yourself as an say, ta da, an art student and say, ta da, it's us? no i hung around it's really us? no i hung around for waited for their for a bit and waited for their conversation left for a bit and waited for their con\which )n left for a bit and waited for their con\which that left for a bit and waited for their con\which that kind left for a bit and waited for their con\which that kind of left for a bit and waited for their con\which that kind of confirmed and which that kind of confirmed to of our original to me more of our original suspicion. but i'd say, you thou,— suspicion. but i'd say, youi thou—very know, while they were very eohvhehg— know, while they were very convincing—inl know, while they were very. convincing—in the convincing performance in the ad,— convincing performance in the hot, they— convincing performance in the act, they put— convincing performance in the act, they put oh— convincing performance in the act, they put on, they did a teotty— act, they put on, they did a really excellent— act, they put on, they did a really excellent job. they even tootet — really excellent job. they even tootet _e— really excellent job. they even tootet-o tew- really excellent job. they even fooled a few minutes. fooled me for a few minutes. yeah— fooled me for a few minutes. yeah-woe- fooled me for a few minutes. l yeah-uoe-oht yeah the setup was sloppy and i thht— yeah the setup was sloppy and i think-reflects- think who this reflects exttehety— think who this reflects extremely poorly on is scott hehtoh— extremely poorly on is scott hehtoh .— extremely poorly on is scott benton , because he this benton, because he fell for this ethe— benton, because he fell for this ethg, whteh— benton, because he fell for this sting, which we— benton, because he fell for this sting, which we expose as being tote— sting, which we expose as being tote-tee— sting, which we expose as being fake-few moments,- fake within a few moments, though— fake within a few moments, though,_philip. fake within a few moments,i though,_philip was though, from what philip was euyhg. — though, from what philip was euyhg. .— though, from what philip was euyhg. t thou,— though, from what philip was saying. i know, but the setup woe-you— saying. i know, but the setup was-you smelt— saying. i know, but the setup was-you smelt a- saying. i know, but the setup was you smelt a rat. was so you smelt a rat. but he's a was so you smelt a rat. but he's overy— was so you smelt a rat. but he's a very inexperienced mp in the sense he only 2019. sense he only got in in 2019. he's going to lose his seat, i would majority would say, with a majority of 3000. let's 3000. i think he thought, let's

get a bit of cash in the bank before seat. well, before he loses his seat. well, look, i'm not to before he loses his seat. well, look,-i'm not to here. look, i mean, i'm not to here stet— look, i mean, i'm not to here ettet the— look, i mean, i'm not to here stick the boot— look, i mean, i'm not to here stick the boot into- look, i mean, i'm not to here stick the boot into scott hehtoh— stick the boot into scott benton, and _ stick the boot into scott benton, and you know, didn't benton, and you know, i didn't hete— here you are. yeah, you oehohty— certainly are. but look, i ooh-t.— certainly are. but look, i ooh-t. .— certainly are. but look, i don't. i didn't- certainly are. but look, i don't. i didn't the full don't. i didn't hear the full conversation _ i | don't. i didn't hear the full- conversation_| have conversation or anything. i have no conversation or anything. i have ho—he— no idea. he said he said afterwards— no idea. he said he said. afterwards - reflected no idea. he said he said- afterwards-reflected on afterwards that he reflected on it afterwards that he reflected on t ont— afterwards that he reflected on t and hunt— afterwards that he reflected on it and didn't he— afterwards that he reflected on it and didn't he didn't sign up, huh-t— it and didn't he didn't sign up, hunt—the| didn't pursue it, and all the teet— didn't pursue it, and all the test-toot— didn't pursue it, and all the rest-look i've- didn't pursue it, and all the rest look i've always rest of it. look i've always toe— rest of it. look i've always toe thotyh— rest of it. look i've always i've known scott- rest of it. look i've always i've known scott . i've always i've known scott. i've always thought— i've known scott. i've always thought he— i've known scott. i've always thought he was— i've known scott. i've always thought he was a— i've known scott. i've always thought he was a decent guy. i cant— thought he was a decent guy. i cant tett— thought he was a decent guy. i cant tett you— thought he was a decent guy. i can't tell you what his motivation— can't tell you what his motivation was. you'd have to sheet—thet- - motivation was. you'd have to. sheet—thet- .tut speak to him about that. but but oohhg—hoht- speak to him about that. but butj coming—point, they coming back to bev's point, they were—they- coming back to bev's point, they were—they l were they were very they were very— were they were very they were very .— were they were very they were yety , very— were they were very they were very , very-they- were they were very they were i very , vew-thev-vewo very, very good. they were very, very— very, very good. they were very, very good— very, very good. they were very, very good . — very, very good. they were very, yety goou. hut— very, very good. they were very, very good . but mps- very, very good. they were very, very good . ht. 2 very, very good. they were very, very good . 2 very good. but mps should not be in position appearing to in a position to be appearing to rent out to a covid rent themselves out to a covid clearly are clear clearly not. there are clear tutee— clearly not. there are clear tutee-h- clearly not. there are clear rules-in place- clearly not. there are clear rules-in place for| rules which are in place for good— rules which are in place for good-thet- rules which are in place for good-that mps- rules which are in place for good _that mps not good reason that mps should not be good reason that mps should not he tohhyhg— good reason that mps should not he tohhyhg oh— good reason that mps should not be lobbying on behalf of anybody that paye— be lobbying on behalf of anybody that pays them.— be lobbying on behalf of anybody that pays them. they should not be that pays them. they should not he hung— that pays them. they should not be giving parliamentary advice. those— be giving parliamentary advice. thoee tutee— be giving parliamentary advice. those rules are— be giving parliamentary advice. those rules are perfectly clear. they-te— those rules are perfectly clear. they-re there— those rules are perfectly clear. they're there . a _ those rules are perfectly clear. they're there a reason they're there for a good reason ont— they're there for a good reason and there-e— they're there for a good reason and there's-excuse- they're there for a good reason and there's excuse really for and there's no excuse really for any— and there's no excuse really for any ht— and there's no excuse really for any up to— and there's no excuse really for any the to hunt— and there's no excuse really for any mp to want to— and there's no excuse really for any mp to want to try and flout those.— any mp to want to try and flout those. they. — any mp to want to try and flout those. okay. where- any mp to want to try and flout those. okay. �*ftt�*“»2;”»2; 22 any mp to want to try and flout those. okay. �*ftt�*“»2;”»2; 2:2» any mp to want to try and flout those. okay. �*ftt�*“t2;”t2; 22» any mp to want to try and flout those. okay. 2:2» those. okay. where do we see the film? where do we see film? film? where do we see the film? oh, it's on our oh, it's online. it's on our uehette— oh, it's online. it's on our website-two- oh, it's online. it's on our website. two minutes. oh, it's online. it's on our- website.-two minutes. very website. good. two minutes. very good. — website. good. two minutes. very good. -._ website. good. two minutes. very good. -o-oh- website. good. two minutes. very good. -o-oh eh- website. good. two minutes. very good. _a-on gb newsl good. have a look on gb news website. well too. website. well done. you too.

thohte. — website. well done. you too. thanks. .right.-toj thanks. both right. still to come, york. we'll come, the king is in york. we'll tell you why in two

gb news. it's 1126 gb news.- . it's 1126 europe oh howe- — - it's 1126 europe with the gb news. it's 1126 europe with the to the point - it's 1126 europe with the to the point .andrew - . it's 1126 europe with the to the point-andrew pierce- the point with andrew pierce and bev the point with andrew pierce and hey-ont— the point with andrew pierce and hey-one eh— the point with andrew pierce and bev-and gb news- the point with andrew pierce and bev and gb news is now bev turner and gb news is now for bev turner and gb news is now to the— bev turner and gb news is now to the thet— bev turner and gb news is now for the first time— bev turner and gb news is now for the first time in— bev turner and gb news is now for the first time in the church of for the first time in the church ot thgtoht-e— for the first time in the church of england's-over- of england's history, over a quartet— of england's history, over a quarter churches are not quarter of churches are not hotthg— quarter of churches are not holding sunday— quarter of churches are not holding sunday services . his holding sunday services. his attendances— holding sunday services. his attendances have plunged by over zoo— attendances have plunged by over zoo eche— attendances have plunged by over zoo pte— attendances have plunged by over 20% since pre covid levels , not 20% since pre covid levels, not due— 20% since pre covid levels, not due to— 20% since pre covid levels, not due to due— 20% since pre covid levels, not due to due to— 20% since pre covid levels, not due to due to not— 20% since pre covid levels, not due to due to not due to falling demand,— due to due to not due to falling tehoht, hut— due to due to not due to falling demand, but rather falling supply-— demand, but rather falling euhhty. so— demand, but rather falling supply. so what is going on with the-ot— supply. so what is going on with the-ot-oht- supply. so what is going on with the-ot-oht uhy| the church of england and why cant— can't they provide enough eehteee— can't they provide enough services already services for their already twhtthg— services for their already dwindling congregation? let's ask-nichols,- dwindling congregation? let's ask- nichols, director. dwindling congregation? let'sl ask- nichols, director of ask graham nichols, director of affinity gospel churches , who affinity gospel churches, who joins us now. good morning, graham. so what's going on? is it that less people, fewer people wants to go to church or that the churches just aren't available for them to attend ? i available for them to attend? i think it's complicated . i think think it's complicated. i think it's think it's complicated. i think he hoe— think it's complicated. i think he the— think it's complicated. i think it's more the latter that it he— it's more the latter that it to hot— it's more the latter that it he not eo— it's more the latter that it it's not so much that there's a oohhtete— it's not so much that there's a eohhtete toot— it's not so much that there's a complete lack of— it's not so much that there's a complete lack of demand , but i

complete lack of demand, but i thht— complete lack of demand, but i thht tte— complete lack of demand, but i thht he the— complete lack of demand, but i think it's the structures of the church— think it's the structures of the church ot— think it's the structures of the church of england mean that there— church of england mean that there ue— church of england mean that there are many— church of england mean that there are many vicars who are ehohhhg— there are many vicars who are ehohhhg mayhe— there are many vicars who are spanning maybe 4 or 5 or in some zo— spanning maybe 4 or 5 or in some cases 20 churches. _ spanning maybe 4 or 5 or in some cases 20 churches. um which is a the— cases 20 churches. um which is a the ot— cases 20 churches. um which is a the ot hugger— cases 20 churches. um which is a kind of bigger picture of the teethe— kind of bigger picture of the teethe ot— kind of bigger picture of the decline of attendance in village ehutehee— decline of attendance in village ehuhhee ont— decline of attendance in village churches and the— decline of attendance in village churches and the ageing hohututtoh— churches and the ageing population and so on. so there's eohhttootet— population and so on. so there's complicated factors going back and complicated factors going back .nd....ty,_ complicated factors going back and-really,-it's- complicated factors going back and really, it's more and forth really, but it's more and forth really, but it's more on ot— and forth really, but it's more an issue of, um— and forth really, but it's more an issue of, um ,_ and forth really, but it's more an issue of, um , a lack of an issue of, um, a lack of resources . and- an issue of, um, a lack of resources . and there may be resources. and there may be covth— resources. and there may be covm factors _ resources. and there may be covid factors there , structural covid factors there, structural tootote— covid factors there, structural tootote th— covid factors there, structural factors in the— covid factors there, structural factors in the church of england . i factors in the church of england . t thht— factors in the church of england . t thht the— factors in the church of england . i think the church of england is . i think the church of england to o— . i think the church of england to o th— . i think the church of england is a bit demoralised at the moment— is a bit demoralised at the moment with— is a bit demoralised at the moment with with debates moment with with the debates going—50- going on and so forth. so there-e— going on and so forth. so there's lots— going on and so forth. so there's lots of— going on and so forth. so there's lots of factors there. the — there's lots of factors there. the set,— there's lots of factors there. the set,-last- there's lots of factors there. the set, last census, graham the set, the last census, graham i the set, the last census, graham tthhh— the set, the last census, graham i think, showed— the set, the last census, graham i think, showed for— the set, the last census, graham i think, showed for first i think, showed for the first the—hott- i think, showed for the first time—half of. i think, showed for the first- time_half of people time fewer than half of people ttehttty—hou- time fewer than half of people identify—now as. identify themselves now as chhettoh— identify themselves now as christian in— identify themselves now as christian in this— identify themselves now as christian in this country, which i christian in this country, which t-teehty— christian in this country, which i deeply depressing . yeah i found deeply depressing. yeah i found deeply depressing. yeah t meoh— i found deeply depressing. yeah t t— i found deeply depressing. yeah i mean, i think— i found deeply depressing. yeah i mean, i think in— i found deeply depressing. yeah i mean, i think in reality, the what— i mean, i think in reality, the what you— i mean, i think in reality, the what you might— i mean, i think in reality, the what you might call evangelical chhettohe— what you might call evangelical christians who— what you might call evangelical christians who who would not just— christians who who would not tuet tot— christians who who would not just ttet the— christians who who would not just tick the box— christians who who would not just tick the box for christianity, but would say they hetteye— christianity, but would say they tetteye the — christianity, but would say they believe the bible _ christianity, but would say they believe the bible and they hetteye— believe the bible and they believe the _ believe the bible and they believe the gospel and exclusive outmo— believe the gospel and exclusive otothe ot— believe the gospel and exclusive claims of christ— believe the gospel and exclusive claims of christ and so on. hohotty— claims of christ and so on. probably you're— claims of christ and so on. probably you're talking five, 6% of probably you're talking five, 6%

ot-hohutottoh— probably you're talking five, 6% of population who are what of the population who are what you htght— of the population who are what you htght outt— of the population who are what you might call committed . i you might call committed. i that-e— you might call committed. i mean, that's a— you might call committed. i mean, that's a pretty low bar. i thht— mean, that's a pretty low bar. i thht tt-e— mean, that's a pretty low bar. i thht to o— mean, that's a pretty low bar. i think it's a ten— mean, that's a pretty low bar. i think it's a ten church once a month. — think it's a ten church once a month. t— think it's a ten church once a month. i-recent- think it's a ten church once a month. i recent survey month. i think a recent survey helm-uh,— month. i think a recent survey was wasiorium, so- month. i think a recent survey was was or um, so yeah, was was 5 or 6. um, so yeah, oohhtttet— was was 5 or 6. um, so yeah, committed is— was was 5 or 6. um, so yeah, committed is pretty small. so we are committed is pretty small. so we o hhohty,— committed is pretty small. so we are a minority, but— committed is pretty small. so we are a minority, but actually there— are a minority, but actually there ue— are a minority, but actually there are churches where, where they-re,— there are churches where, where they-re, they-re — there are churches where, where they're, they're vibrant and they-te— they're, they're vibrant and they're growing young and they-te— they're growing young and they-re pretty— they're growing young and they're pretty well resourced as wet.— they're pretty well resourced as yet. so— they're pretty well resourced as well. so there— they're pretty well resourced as well. so there is,— they're pretty well resourced as well. so there is, there is eheouhghg— well. so there is, there is eheouhghg .— well. so there is, there is encouraging, but there's a hohteutu— encouraging, but there's a particular anglican factor going whate— particular anglican factor going on. what's going— particular anglican factor going on. what's going on- particular anglican factor going on. what's going on with your gospel churches? graham have you got of bums on pews, if you got lots of bums on pews, if you pardon pun ? yeah. broadly pardon the pun? yeah. broadly speaking , in our kinds of speaking, in our kinds of churches are either sort of maintained the same levels or growing, not growing massively. we'd love them to be growing faster , but broadly speaking, faster, but broadly speaking, the kind of evangelical independent churches , um, where independent churches, um, where they're orthodox teaching but contemporary style , they tend to contemporary style, they tend to be growing and have lots of young people . our own church has young people. our own church has pretty much people who are in membership from every decade as in every decade of life , um,

in every decade of life, um, from being born. so so yeah, good range, lots of encouragement , lots of good encouragement, lots of good stuff going on. lots of good social work, lots of good preaching work happening. so it's really a discourage it's not really a discourage thing picture we just like more and there's the rest of the population that we're trying to reach well. same time. reach as well. at the same time. graham out of graham what do people get out of the , such as a faithless the church, such as a faithless person ? just just sell it to me. person? just just sell it to me. ahyhoty— person? just just sell it to me. ahyhouy ettthg— person? just just sell it to me. anybody sitting at— , just just sell it to me. anybody sitting at home and thhthty— anybody sitting at home and thhthg, eh— anybody sitting at home and thinking, oh, i— anybody sitting at home and thinking, oh, i don't feel i heed— thinking, oh, i don't feel i heed the— thinking, oh, i don't feel i need this in— thinking, oh, i don't feel i need this in my- thinking, oh, i don't feel i need this in my life, what do you— need this in my life, what do you get— need this in my life, what do you get hoh — need this in my life, what do you get from the— need this in my life, what do you get from the church? that's that-e— you get from the church? that's that-e o— you get from the church? that's that's a fantastic— you get from the church? that's that's a fantastic question because in way, um , you get, because in a way, um, you get, you know, you get eternal life, but, and you get dignity and purpose and all those sort of things. but it's not really a consumer sell, is it? it's more of a, um, if you think it's true , uh, you know, the story of easter that's coming up of jesus dying in the place of sinners and offering you eternal life. if think it's true, then you if you think it's true, then you want learn more about it. and want to learn more about it. and you with other you want to be with other christians worship god and christians and worship god and those you those sort of things. if you just want to entertained just want to be entertained or some social club, there are there are probably, as

there are probably, you know, as good could go good things that you could go to. social club and to. it's a good social club and it's good network and it's it's a good network and it's good but you know, don't good fun. but you know, don't come that. come to us come to us for that. come to us because eternal life because you want eternal life and help you with and then we can help you with that because i'm not that entertaining. you can entertaining. you know, you can probably find someone better at preaching, not better or preaching, not better or preaching lost preaching, not better or pretthere. lost preaching, not better or pretthere. this lost preaching, not better or pretthere. this is lost preaching, not better or pretthere. this is the lost preaching, not better or pretthere. this is the trouble. me there. this is the trouble. ethy— me there. this is the trouble. etoy—wtth- me there. this is the trouble. etoy—wtth the l okay i'm on board with the eoetot— okay i'm on board with the eoetot-t-h— okay i'm on board with the social-i'm on- okay i'm on board with the social i'm on board with social side. i'm on board with the— social side. i'm on board with the community. _ social side. i'm on board with the community. i'm on board with hethhg— helping other people. i'm on tout.— helping other people. i'm on tout. th— helping other people. i'm on board. i'm-sort- helping other people. i'm on board. i'm sort on board board. i'm even sort of on board utth— board. i'm even sort of on board with-meditate— board. i'm even sort of on board with meditate aspect, with with the meditate aspect, with the-oeheot— with the meditate aspect, with the-oeheot .— with the meditate aspect, with the-oeheot. t- with the meditate aspect, with the aspect . i think the prayer aspect. i think there-e— the prayer aspect. i think there's something quite beautiful— there's something quite beautiful and spiritual about that— beautiful and spiritual about that particular— beautiful and spiritual about that particular activity and a group— that particular activity and a group ot— that particular activity and a group of people. but i don't teotty— group of people. but i don't teotty th— group of people. but i don't really i'm hedging my bets. if th— really i'm hedging my bets. if t-h-etehot- really i'm hedging my bets. if i'm _eternal life,- i'm going for eternal life, that-e— i'm going for eternal life, thot-e-gohg- i'm going for eternal life, that's-going over that's not going to get me over the threshold.— that's not going to get me over the threshold. at— that's not going to get me over the threshold. at 8:00 on a suhtoy— the threshold. at 8:00 on a sunday morning, it? the threshold. at 8:00 on a sunday morning, it ? 2 the threshold. at 8:00 on a- sunday morning,.it ? would me. sunday morning, is it? would me. but sunday morning, is it? would me. hut—then— sunday morning, is it? would me. hut—then tt— sunday morning, is it? would me. but—then it would- but if it's true, then it would do,— but if it's true, then it would to—hut- but if it's true, then it would to—hutlheohi but if it's true, then it would. do,_butimean, the do, wouldn't it? but i mean, the youe—honest- do, wouldn't it? but i mean, the you're honest about you're being very honest about it. you're being very honest about t. .yeoh— you're being very honest about t. .yeoh the— you're being very honest about it. .yeah, the truth- you're being very honest about it. yeah, the truth is, is it. and yeah, the truth is, is whats— it. and yeah, the truth is, is whats hoe— it. and yeah, the truth is, is what's more important, whether it's what's more important, whether to true— what's more important, whether he tue ot— what's more important, whether it's true or not. _ what's more important, whether it's true or not. i— what's more important, whether it's true or not. i mean, if he— it's true or not. i mean, if to h— it's true or not. i mean, if to h tte— it's true or not. i mean, if it's if it's not— it's true or not. i mean, if it's if it's not true, we're just— it's if it's not true, we're tuet o— it's if it's not true, we're tuet o-ot- it's if it's not true, we're just a-of really,l it's if it's not true, we're- just a-of really, aren't just a bunch of really, aren't wee— just a bunch of really, aren't wee eh— just a bunch of really, aren't wee eh you— just a bunch of really, aren't we? oh you said— just a bunch of really, aren't we? oh you said it, not me. graham.— we? oh you said it, not me. graham. speak— we? oh you said it, not me. graham. speak for- we? oh you said it, not me. graham. speak for yourself. because tonight more. it's because tonight is more. it's houhty— because tonight is more. it's| houhty—the maundy thursday, so it's the teet— maundy thursday, so it's the test supper,— maundy thursday, so it's the last supper, the— maundy thursday, so it's the last supper, the washing of the

teet— last supper, the washing of the teet-the — last supper, the washing of the feet-the catholic- last supper, the washing of the feet the catholic church. feet and the catholic church. that— feet and the catholic church. what-he— feet and the catholic church. what-be doing- feet and the catholic church. . what-be doing-your what will you be doing in your goehet— what will you be doing in your goehet-tohtght,- what will you be doing in your gospel tonight, graham in gospel church tonight, graham in our gospel church tonight, graham in hohteutu— gospel church tonight, graham in our particular church, we're not we ooh-t— our particular church, we're not we ooh-tleo— our particular church, we're not we don't-so much- our particular church, we're not we don't so much for maundy we don't do so much for maundy thutetoy— we don't do so much for maundy thuteuoy toy,— we don't do so much for maundy thursday day,-did- we don't do so much for maundy thursday day, did do thursday day, but we did do a oouhte— thursday day, but we did do a eouhtelweete— thursday day, but we did do a couple weeks ago, which was couple of weeks ago, which was hove—meet- couple of weeks ago, which was have _ meal like - couple of weeks ago, which was have _meal like the. have a passover meal like the tottttohot— have a passover meal like the traditional jewish— have a passover meal like the traditional jewish passover demonstrate _ traditional jewish passover demonstrate ,_ traditional jewish passover demonstrate , which was really demonstrate, which was really hteteethg— demonstrate, which was really interesting everyone in the interesting for everyone in the eohgteguttoh— interesting for everyone in the congregation, which is what jesus— congregation, which is what jesus-hove- congregation, which is what jesus have done on the jesus would have done on the toot—then- jesus would have done on the last—then goodl last supper. and then good friday, we services, easter friday, we have services, easter sunday. um, yeah, that's more sunday. um, so yeah, that's more the ooh— sunday. um, so yeah, that's more the eoh ot— sunday. um, so yeah, that's more the sort of calendar— “22th um, so yeah, that's more the sort of calendar stuff we hove— the sort of calendar stuff we have over the _ the sort of calendar stuff we have over the weekend. all hght. — have over the weekend. all right. _easterl have over the weekend. all- right. _easter eggs? right. what about easter eggs? what easter eggs? graham what about easter eggs? graham we easter egg what about easter eggs? graham we-easter egg hunt- what about easter eggs? graham we _easter egg hunt with| we have an easter egg hunt with our we have an easter egg hunt with out—got— we have an easter egg hunt with out—got some- our family. i've got some children and grandchildren and stuff, that on. stuff, so we're doing that on. you've it. you've won her you've got it. you've won herj over how you've won her over wtth — over how you've won her over wtth the — over now you've won her over with the easter— over now you've won her over with the easter eggs. i want the ohoootote— with the easter eggs. i want the chocolate now. the eternal life. she's easy to please. uh, graham.— she's easy to please. uh, ethane-you- she's easy to please. uh, graham,-you so. she's easy to please. uh, graham, you so much . graham, thank you so much. graham, thank you so much. graham nicholson, director of affinity churches and a affinity gospel churches and a man bit of a laugh man who likes a bit of a laugh at the whole thing. you know that. that's brilliant. religion at the whole thing. you know thatgot at's brilliant. religion at the whole thing. you know thatgot at's biableit. religion at the whole thing. you know thatgot at's biableit. laughyn at the whole thing. you know thatgot at's biableit. laugh at has got to be able to laugh at itself. oh, it's got to be. wett— itself. oh, it's got to be. well, when he's sitting there saying come here saying what did you come here for? eternal life? for? you come for eternal life? well, just the way,

well, i'll just say, by the way, no well, i'll just say, by the way,| ho—thgtoht well, i'll just say, by the way,- ho—thgtoht th no surprise church of england in ouste— no surprise church of england in ohete—tuethy- crisis because justin welby, atehhtehoh— crisis because justin welby, archbishop of— crisis because justin welby, archbishop of canterbury, is useless. _exactly. useless. it's not exactly a great he's great salesman, is he? he's not really, manage to keep really, you know, manage to keep people on board. absolutely right. okay. well still to come, the duke and duchess of sussex still haven't said whether they're going to go to the coronation . oh, they're dragging coronation. oh, they're dragging this they? do you this out, aren't they? do you want here? we're fine . find want them here? we're fine. find out news with rihanna out after the news with rihanna jones. thank out after the news with rihanna jones . thank you, bev. good jones. thank you, bev. good hothhg— jones. thank you, bev. good hothhg .— jones. thank you, bev. good hothhg . tte— jones. thank you, bev. good morning . it's1133.- thank you, bev. good morning . it's1133. your thank you, bev. good morning . it's 1133. your top morning. it's 1133. your top stores— morning. it's1133. your top stories from _ morning. it's1133. your top stories from the- morning. it's1133. your top stories from the gb newsroom counter—terrorism _ stories from the gb newsroom counter—terrorism officers , counter—terrorism officers, otohg— counter—terrorism officers, otohg wtth— counter—terrorism officers, along with those who tackle serious organised crime, have teen— serious organised crime, have been trotted— serious organised crime, have been drafted in— serious organised crime, have been drafted in to help clean up the met— been drafted in to help clean up the met police— been drafted in to help clean up the met police workforce. commissioner— the met police workforce. commissioner sir mark rowley tetteyee— commissioner sir mark rowley believes there— commissioner sir mark rowley believes there are hundreds of corrupt— believes there are hundreds of corrupt officers— believes there are hundreds of corrupt officers who shouldn't be corrupt officers who shouldn't he h— corrupt officers who shouldn't he th the — corrupt officers who shouldn't he th the job — corrupt officers who shouldn't be in the job and— corrupt officers who shouldn't be in the job and he wants to weed— be in the job and he wants to weed them— be in the job and he wants to weed them out— be in the job and he wants to weed them out of— be in the job and he wants to weed them out of more than .

the king. the king's arrived in york for his first maundy service, but we're going to talk papers first because carole malone yes , she's still not told malone yes, she's still not told us if she's going to the coronation. the duchess of sussex. yes. as the sussexes . i sussex. yes. as the sussexes. i mean, we're close— 53.2y2yt2;,h< yes. as the sussexes. i mean, we're close now. 3.2y2yt2;,h< yes. as the sussexes. i mean, we're close now. we're tees— mean, we're close now. we're teee thon— mean, we're close now. we're teee thoh o— mean, we're close now. we're less than a month— mean, we're close now. we're less than a month away. it's tute— less than a month away. it's tute. tt— less than a month away. it's tute. t to.— less than a month away. it's rude. it is. but— less than a month away. it's rude. it is. but this is so tyhteot— rude. it is. but this is so tyhteut ot— rude. it is. but this is so typical of them , isn't it? typical of them, isn't it? they-te— typical of them, isn't it? they-re eo— typical of them, isn't it? they're so entitled. they're so self—absorbed.— they're so entitled. they're so

self—absorbed. they're not teottehg— self—absorbed. they're not realising the— self—absorbed. they're not realising the 2000 guests are going— realising the 2000 guests are gohg to— realising the 2000 guests are gohg to the— realising the 2000 guests are going to this wedding arrangements have to be wedding ootoh— arrangements have to be wedding ootoh .— arrangements have to be wedding coronation . that— arrangements have to be wedding coronation . that arrangements coronation. that arrangements hove— coronation. that arrangements havelbe_ coronation. that arrangements havelbe made— coronation. that arrangements have-be made .— coronation. that arrangements have be made . and that just i have to be made. and that just i ooh-t— have to be made. and that just i ooh-t thou— have to be made. and that just i ooh-t know why. — have to be made. and that just i don't know why. is— have to be made. and that just i don't know why. is it because they-te— don't know why. is it because they-re ttyhg— don't know why. is it because they're trying to _ don't know why. is it because they're trying to work out what is they're trying to work out what to h— they're trying to work out what to th ht— they're trying to work out what to th t to— they're trying to work out what is in it for them?— they're trying to work out what is in it for them? is there a documentary— is in it for them? is there a documentary or— is in it for them? is there a documentary or something or is it documentary or something or is tt-he— documentary or something or is tt-he ooh-t— documentary or something or is it-he can't face- documentary or something or is it-he can't face the - it because he can't face the tohtty— it because he can't face the tenth otter— it because he can't face the family after the _ it because he can't face the family after the book? oh, does he hoe— family after the book? oh, does he he he— family after the book? oh, does he he he hot— family after the book? oh, does he has he not been told where he-e— he has he not been told where he gothg— he has he not been told where he gohg to— he has he not been told where he's going to sit?— he has he not been told where he's going to sit? _ he has he not been told where he's going to sit? 2 he's going to sit? because johnna— he's going to sit? because joanna well, we know we know the queen's funeral. were queen's funeral. they were behind the duke and duchess of gloucester walked in gloucester who if they walked in this room now, nobody would recognise me. no, recognise them except me. no, absolutely recognise them except me. no, absoluwhat's behind- d “ no, absoluwhat's behind this? i “ no, absoluwhat's behind this? i mean knows what's behind this? i mean , knows what's behind this? i mean i , knows what's behind this? i mean . t agree— knows what's behind this? i mean , i agree completely. is just , i agree completely. it is just nutte— , i agree completely. it is just nute. aho— , i agree completely. it is just rude. and quite— , i agree completely. it is just rude. and quite frankly, if it was a member— rude. and quite frankly, if it was a member of family, you was a member of my family, you youth—nth- was a member of my family, you would—with it- was a member of my family, you would _with it .- was a member of my family, you would _with it . you. would not put up with it. you youth— would not put up with it. you youth-neth- would not put up with it. you would well, that's it, would just say, well, that's it, we would just say, well, that's it, hue-ott— would just say, well, that's it, hue-oh thte— would just say, well, that's it, we _off this line,- we ain't cut off this line, ehoutth-t— we ain't cut off this line, shouldn't they? "3; we ain't cut off this line, shouldn't they? "cat 2 we ain't cut off this line,- shouldn't they? they should say, you're not. absolutely. - shouldn't they? they should say, you're not. absolutely. the- you're not. absolutely. the other— other thing that i don't understand,— other thing that i don't- understand,-how he's understand, though, is how he's hote— understand, though, is how he's mote—teet- understand, though, is how he's made—deal about- understand, though, is how he's made deal about the made such a big deal about the thhohohee— made such a big deal about the importance security importance of security for eeounty— importance of security for security-and - importance of security for security and having importance of security for- security-and having the security for him and having the nth— security for him and having the right protection— security for him and having the right protection in— security for him and having the right protection in place . you right protection in place. you thht— right protection in place. you thht-neotty- right protection in place. you think-really was- think if that really was a phony— think if that really was a hnonty .— think if that really was a priority , you'd- think if that really was a priority , you'd want people to priority, you'd want people to thon— priority, you'd want people to know your— priority, you'd want people to know your plans— priority, you'd want people to know your plans so that the

know your plans so that all the ononemenegt— know your plans so that all the arrangements could be made. but that-hoonoeh— arrangements could be made. but that-hoguoeh .— arrangements could be made. but that hogwash , because we that was hogwash, because we saw him that was hogwash, because we saw htn—the— that was hogwash, because we saw htn—the htgh- that was hogwash, because we saw him—the high court. him turning up at the high court for him turning up at the high court to three— him turning up at the high court for three days. _ him turning up at the high court for three days. was— him turning up at the high court for three days. c for three days. was it last week or the week before? and it makes me or the week before? and it makes ne-they-ne— or the week before? and it makes me _they're - attention i me think they're just attention seekers. you know, this is about teehtng— keeping them in the headlines. but:— keeping them in the headlines. hut. you— keeping them in the headlines. hut. you know.— keeping them in the headlines. but, you know, the— keeping them in the headlines. but, you know, the-is,- but, you know, the thing is, you know, about father. but, you know, the thing is, you knotknow, about father. but, you know, the thing is, you knotknow, if about father. but, you know, the thing is, you knotknow, if he about father. but, you know, the thing is, you knotknow, if he loves father. but, you know, the thing is, you knotknow, if he loves hisfather. but, you know, the thing is, you knotknow, if he loves his father you know, if he loves his father at all, this is the biggest day of life, probably from of his life, probably apart from his day. which one? who his wedding day. which one? who knows? but so, you know, he knows? but so, you know, he knows this is a big deal for charles and he knows that charles and he knows that charles want him to charles would want him to be there and just there. and why that? just playing games ? i mean, you know, playing games? i mean, you know, in always meghan in my head, it's always meghan who is behind everything. yeah, but we blame her. but-the| but we blame her. but he's the noyot. — royal. well, he should. he should. he man. he should. he should, man. he should. he should, man. he should be the grown up, should also be the grown up, too. remember, they're not too. but remember, they're not going stand on too. but remember, they're not goiibalcony. stand on too. but remember, they're not goiibalcony. so stand on too. but remember, they're not goiibalcony. so they're stand on too. but remember, they're not goiibalcony. so they're notid on the balcony. so they're not working course. but working royals, of course. but that be a blow to that it's going to be a blow to them going be sat them if they're going to be sat at the back biden at the back like biden was at the queen's william's son is going— the queen's william's son is gotho—thel going to be a page in the procession. _ going to be a page in the procession. vow .t procession. yes. which is fantastic. would think fantastic. but you would think i think i think he's just got this. i think he's just got this. i think said all this stuff in think he said all this stuff in the book. he's not prepared to face don't you face them down. but don't you think instruct them think netflix will instruct them to go because they want their

bucks, they want their bang for their bucks? i mean, possibly. who knows? knows? don't who knows? who knows? we don't know. the bottom line. know. is the bottom line. so it's speculation . and quite it's all speculation. and quite frankly, you know, it gets a bit bonng frankly, you know, it gets a bit boring after while. think, boring after a while. you think, come on, just just you're come on, just just either you're coming coming . coming or you're not coming. don't inflict debate on the don't inflict this debate on the rest of us want them there. i couldn't care less. no, i couldn't care less. no, i couldn't care less either. sorry. sounds a bit mean, perhaps, but the british public don't want this. they've got to at don't want this. they've got to ot-hoht. — don't want this. they've got to ot-hoht. _eter- don't want this. they've got to at-point, -after sparei at that point, after after spare the-the — at that point, after after spare the-the public- the i think the public are toothy— the i think the public are toothy-nutte- the i think the public are really quite worried really i'd be quite worried for the—nee the royal family if they were there— the royal family if they were there .— the royal family if they were there , knowing— the royal family if they were there , knowing that harry has there, knowing that harry has heome— there, knowing that harry has heome o— there, knowing that harry has become a journalist, to all htemte— become a journalist, to all intents and— become a journalist, to all intents and purposes, he's heome— intents and purposes, he's heome the— intents and purposes, he's become the thing that he says he teehteee. — become the thing that he says he despises. - notes - become the thing that he says he despises. _notes is- become the thing that he says he despises. _notes is hel despises. yes. what notes is he taking ? will he be taping despises. 422? “g 7’ will he be taping people taking? will he be taping people tttmhge — taking? will he be taping people tttmhge |meon— taking? will he be taping people filming? imean .— “2? will he be taping people filming? “ t/tift“ and also, filming? i mean. yeah. and also, i filming? i mean. yeah. and also, tthht— filming? i mean. yeah. and also, tthhtihoye— filming? i mean. yeah. and also, i think-have ithink- filming? i mean. yeah. and also, ithink-havelthink about- i think we have to think about whet-e— i think we have to think about whats-he— i think we have to think about uhot-e-he oh- i think we have to think about. what's-be on-pages, i think we have to think about. whéfront-be on-pages, i think we have to think about whéfront pages be on pages, i think we have to think about whéfront pages ofe on pages, i think we have to think about whéfront pages of the pages, the front pages of the newspaper,— the front pages of the newspaper, the following day, because— newspaper, the following day, because as-say, - newspaper, the following day, because as say, the because as you say, it's the meee— because as you say, it's the most-moment. because as you say, it's the- most-momenthing most important moment in king chertee-e— charles's life. he, not unreasonably , will expect that unreasonably, will expect that it's unreasonably, will expect that ie-e going— unreasonably, will expect that we going ee— unreasonably, will expect that me going to be— unreasonably, will expect that it's going to be him who gets me— it's going to be him who gets the headlines— it's going to be him who gets the headlines and the press coverage and— the headlines and the press coverage and photographs. coverage and the photographs. nee— coverage and the photographs. nee-ie— coverage and the photographs. nee-e if— coverage and the photographs. nee-e if he— coverage and the photographs. the-is if he if- coverage and the photographs. the is if he if harry and the danger is if he if harry and meghan— the danger is if he if harry and negnan cane— the danger is if he if harry and

meghan come over, the meghan come over, become the eenea— meghan come over, become the centre-attention— meghan come over, become the centre-attention ,_ meghan come over, become the centre attention , they will centre of attention, they will be centre of attention, they will nae-anes— centre of attention, they will beioneslthe- centre of attention, they will be ones the front page. be the ones on the front page. underestimate_ be the ones on the front page. urthezstimate_ be the ones on the front page. urthe coronation— be the ones on the front page. urthe coronation .— be the ones on the front page. urthe coronation . it— be the ones on the front page. urthe coronation . it will- be the ones on the front page. of the coronation. it will be a worldwide event . the coronation worldwide event. the coronation of most famous king on the of the most famous king on the planet and know i haven't had a coronation since 1953. heads of state caning— coronation since 1953. heads of state coming from _ coronation since 1953. heads of state coming from all- f in" at»; w) heads of state coming from all over the wane,— state coming from all over the wane, anan— state coming from all over the world, apart from _ state coming from all over the world, apart from joe biden, obviously,— world, apart from joe biden,. obviously,_friends obviously, but and he's friends nann— obviously, but and he's friends nnn ane— obviously, but and he's friends with the sussexes, funny enough. i with the sussexes, funny enough. a-aney— with the sussexes, funny enough. a-aney-nnan- with the sussexes, funny enough. i _they - know now - i mean, they must know now nneanen— i mean, they must know now whether they're _ i mean, they must know now whether they're coming . they whether they're coming. they can-a— whether they're coming. they can't—they! whether they're coming. they. ean-a—aney nuse can't be just deciding they must knew— can't be just deciding they must knew-ann— can't be just deciding they must know-this hang,- can't be just deciding they must know-this hang, i- can't be just deciding they must know this hang, i think know now. and this hang, i think the know now. and this hang, i think ane palace— know now. and this hang, i think the palace should— know now. and this hang, i think the palace should just say aeaaauy— the palace should just say aeaaauy .— the palace should just say actually , you've left it too actually, you've left it too late. — actually, you've left it too late. g...— actually, you've left it too late. the rsvp— actually, you've left it too late. the rsvp date has gone. so neu— late. the rsvp date has gone. so ne-u aeeanne— late. the rsvp date has gone. so we'll assume you're— late. the rsvp date has gone. so we'll assume you're not coming. do we'll assume you're not coming. ea yea— we'll assume you're not coming. no you nenennenn— we'll assume you're not coming. do you remember in the netflix aaeanenaane — do you remember in the netflix documentary? it's— do you remember in the netflix documentary? e ntnzn“ g documentary? it's coming back to me event that me now. there was an event that they that all they were going to that they all went meghan was on went to, and then meghan was on the front page of the paper and meghan and harry's interpretation of event interpretation of that event was, we took the headlines. was, oh, we took the headlines. and kate wasn't here. do you remember? i and remember? yes, i do. and i wonder whether that's how they'll don't want they'll play this. we don't want to because don't to be there because we don't want overshadow in their want to overshadow in their egotistical . do know egotistical. do you know what i mean? if think about how mean? if you think about how they viewed that they viewed it on that documentary, they viewed it on that docurof ntary, they viewed it on that docurof itary, they viewed it on that docurof it is, they viewed it on that docurof it is the media would truth of it is the media would have camera on their faces

have every camera on their faces . yeah. so they might be right. so would be right. but so they would be right. but here's other so they would be right. but here's-other thing. - so they would be right. but here's-other thing. will. here's the other thing. will aney— here's the other thing. will eney ne— here's the other thing. will they be booed?— here's the other thing. will they be booed? i think they will be, they be booed? i think they will ne, because— they be booed? i think they will be, because suspect carole be, because i suspect carole nau— be, because i suspect carole nnu ang— be, because i suspect carole win only be— be, because i suspect carole will only be in— be, because i suspect carole will only be in the crowd. i'll be will only be in the crowd. i'll ne-anene— will only be in the crowd. i'll be _there cheering- be i'll be there cheering yeah, i'll-organising.— i'll be organising. i will be eneenng.— i'll be organising. i will be cheering. anzi�* " enzwn cheering. definitely. i mean, i think be booed, you think they will be booed, you know, forget know, let's not forget the heroism slade the british heroism of slade to the british pubuc heroism of slade to the british public racist. harry has public as racist. harry has always of always said that one of the major reasons this major reasons he left this country was he thought major reasons he left this counpeople he thought major reasons he left this counpeople raciste thought major reasons he left this counpeople racist to rought that people were racist to meghan. you when that people were racist to megwhen you when that people were racist to megwhen being you when that people were racist to megwhen being called nhen that people were racist to megwhen being called a|en you when you're being called a racist, good. you know, racist, it's not good. you know, i got racist, it's not good. you know, . gee anae— racist, it's not good. you know, n gen nnaa seen— racist, it's not good. you know, i got into such trouble- e q you know, i got into such trouble for saying— i got into such trouble for saying interview i'm sorry saying in an interview i'm sorry wnen— saying in an interview i'm sorry. wnen—oneness when people look at the duchess of when people look at the duchess eee—aa— when people look at the duchess af—aa nae— when people look at the duchess af—aa nee eee- of sussex they do not see a woman-colour- of sussex they do not see a woman-colour ,- of sussex they do not see a woman-colour , a- of sussex they do not see a woman colour , a black woman. woman of colour, a black woman. t hey— woman of colour, a black woman. nney gase— woman of colour, a black woman. nney gnea eee— woman of colour, a black woman. nney gnea a— woman of colour, a black woman. they just see a woman who's anne— they just see a woman who's nnne, nne— they just see a woman who's white, who happens have white, who happens to have a black— white, who happens to have a black-sne- white, who happens to have a. black-she-about black mother. she talks about it. forgot i read it. i mean, i forgot what i read yesterday. something like she's only and her only a quarter. yeah and her kids something. kids are 7/8 or something. whatever. matter. whatever. i don't matter. but the who talks about whatever. i don't matter. but the colour who talks about whatever. i don't matter. but the colour her. rho talks about whatever. i don't matter. but the colour her. yeah. yeah)ut whatever. i don't matter. but the colour her. yeah. yeah ,1t her colour is her. yeah. yeah, right. is this a little- her colour is her. yeah. yeah, right. is this a little bit- f / yeah, right. is this a little bit of common sense— right. is this a little bit of common sense from michael gove? yes we— common sense from michael gove? yes we were— common sense from michael gove? yes we were talking— common sense from michael gove? yes we were talking about we agg— yes we were talking about we tan anam— yes we were talking about we talk about this— yes we were talking about we talk about this a— yes we were talking about we talk about this a lot on the anew— talk about this a lot on the snow ana— talk about this a lot on the show and something talk about this a lot on the show and-something we show and it's something that we bean—angel both feel quite strongly about. tne—aeennatagyl both feel quite strongly about.- the _technology and the march of tech technology and apps— the march of tech technology and anne-aigmeanen- the march of tech technology and apps-digitisation of- the march of tech technology and apps digitisation of the apps and the digitisation of the

fatne— apps and the digitisation of the future-ae— apps and the digitisation of the future - us having - apps and the digitisation of the future us having enough future without us having enough aieeaeeiane— future without us having enough discussions _we- discussions about whether we enema— discussions about whether we should—michael. discussions about whether we- should_michael gove should be doing it. michael gove has should be doing it. michael gove nae—nake- has said, joanna, don't make enven— has said, joanna, don't make anven nee— has said, joanna, don't make drivers use parking apps. i egg— drivers use parking apps. i annk nee— drivers use parking apps. i think he's absolutely right on ann- — think he's absolutely right on this. absolutely— think he's absolutely right on this. ' gig ” g " this. absolutely right. i mean, and talking about it in and he's talking about it in relation to elderly people, people who might not have phones . think i don't . i actually don't think i don't class myself elderly class myself quite as elderly yet. yet share those yet. and yet share those frustrations when you might have a few pound coins in your pocket . you only want to nip into a shop first things. you shop for a first few things. you know, quite happy to coins know, quite happy to feed coins into to there into a metre, but to stand there and to up an app on and have to pull up an app on your and your registration your phone and your registration number, in number, stand there keying in all bank card details. it all your bank card details. it is such a palaver. you don't always want to have to do that. and yet often you're left with no other option at all. it's so frustrating and they wonder about the damage being done to the street by online. and the high street by online. and yet these parking well,- g and yet these parking well, there a nau— yet these parking well, there a pan .— yet these parking well, there was a poll i think puts people off was a poll i think puts people an gaun— was a poll i think puts people off your paper— was a poll i think puts people off your paper did poll today off your paper did a poll today saying— off your paper did a poll today saying-ana— off your paper did a poll today saying-eat af- off your paper did a poll today saying _out of ten - saying that four out of ten pewte— saying that four out of ten people-90- saying that four out of ten people-go intol saying that four out of ten people-go into if people wouldn't go into town if ann— people wouldn't go into town if ante-ease. — people wouldn't go into town if ante-ease. .- people wouldn't go into town if this-case. i was- people wouldn't go into town if this-case. i was in. this was the case. i was in naung— this was the case. i was in eaung andi this was the case. i was in ealing and i was ealing yesterday and i was trying car and the trying to park my car and the app trying to park my car and the app wasn't working. took app wasn't working. now, it took

me to get my head me all me time to get my head around the blooming app in the first wasn't first place, but it wasn't working. to do working. kept asking me to do something. doing it it something. i was doing it and it wouldn't in end, wouldn't work. so in the end, i had leave my car illegally had to leave my car illegally parked. you parked. terrible stress. you could a ticket. yeah, could have got a ticket. yeah, well, of weeks ago in well, a couple of weeks ago in chiswick, the lovely belinda de lucy, station, lucy, who works on this station, well, and i were having well, her and i were having a coffee somewhere. set coffee somewhere. she set the apple because apple for me because i can't. and don't you ever. never. you be and utterly lost and. be totally and utterly lost and. and she set it up for me, and i got out. yeah. and they got a ticket out. yeah. and they said hadn't had to said i hadn't paid and i had to go palaver, sending go through the palaver, sending all the screenshots, everything into still into the thing. and i still haven't whether, whether into the thing. and i still havigoing whether, whether into the thing. and i still havigoing to whether, whether into the thing. and i still havigoing to have ther, whether into the thing. and i still havigoing to have tozr, whether into the thing. and i still havigoing to have to pay. and' i'm going to have to pay. and they that lot of i'm going to have to pay. and| they-thatllot of people they know that a lot of people anne— think i can't be bothered. yes absolutely. — think i can't be bothered. yes absolutely. imean,- think i can't be bothered. yes absolutely. " g absolutely. i mean, one thing that bothers if that really bothers me, if michael express michael gove wants to express concern the elderly, concern for the elderly, it's the isolation that these the social isolation that these things engender as because things engender as well, because it's just another thing where we're with the we're interacting with the screen interacting screen rather than interacting with person. you go to with the person. so you go to a number of local shops near me now and there isn't even now and there just isn't even the to pay with the the option to pay with the cashier. but whatever you're buying, you know, you have to use one of these self—service checkouts and just think for

checkouts and you just think for some people that might be really the conversation they might the only conversation they might have. trying have. they're trying to kill cash. they're trying kill cash. they're trying to kill eaen. — cash. they're trying to kill. eaen. _people cash. they're trying to kill- cash. _people there cash. so, you know, people there are lots shops who don't are lots of shops now who don't take outrageous and i've take cash. outrageous and i've stopped them , you stopped saying to them, you know, do you take cash? because it chance to say it gives them a chance to say no. say that's all no. now i just say that's all i've we out for tea i've got. we went out for tea tag— i've got. we went out for tea aaea nigna— i've got. we went out for tea last night because- gin we went out for tea last night because it was my untena— last night because it was my littlest birthday,— last night because it was my littlest birthday, had two, littlest birthday, so i had two, annee— littlest birthday, so i had two, three pensioners— littlest birthday, so i had two, three pensioners and six kids at the three pensioners and six kids at ane-in— three pensioners and six kids at ane-in ane— three pensioners and six kids at ane-in ane nan.— three pensioners and six kids at the-in the pub. is- three pensioners and six kids at the in the pub. is there the table in the pub. is there a waitresse— the table in the pub. is there a waitress? na,— the table in the pub. is there a waitress? no, there isn't. you nave— waitress? no, there isn't. you nave-ane— waitress? no, there isn't. you nave-ane ann- waitress? no, there isn't. you nave-ane app on. waitress? no, there isn't. you have the app or go have to have the app or go. somewhere—other have to have the app or go- somewhere_other half somewhere else. so my other half and somewhere else. so my other half nw-na-e trying- somewhere else. so my other half and-we're trying to- somewhere else. so my other half and we're trying to do and i start, we're trying to do ane— and i start, we're trying to do ane-ne-ne— and i start, we're trying to do ane-ne-ne going,- and i start, we're trying to do the we're going, do the app, we're going, do you want— the app, we're going, do youi want—yea want chips with that? do you want. — want chips with that? do you want. _thought,- want chips with that? do you want. thought, i'm want. and i thought, i'm actually— want. and i thought, i'm. actually _waitress actually being the waitress nene. — actually being the waitress- neea—naeg here. anyway, we couldn't manage it here. anyway, we couldn't manage g_i.- here. anyway, we couldn't manage g_.. ane- it for that many people. in the end:— it for that many people. in the eng-gaa— it for that many people. in the enae-get a- it for that many people. in the end,-got a piece- it for that many people. in the- end,-got a piece-paper end, my mom got a piece of paper out end, my mom got a piece of paper eat-nannie— end, my mom got a piece of paper out handbag, handed me out of a handbag, handed me a pen.— out of a handbag, handed me a gen-_n— out of a handbag, handed me a gen—n aann. - out of a handbag, handed me a pen._it down. and. pen. trent, write it down. and we pen. trent, write it down. and nne—ana- pen. trent, write it down. andi we_and within we went old school and within five— five minutes i'd done everybody-e- five minutes i'd done everybody's order. i went up to the everybody's order. i went up to ane-ana— everybody's order. i went up to ane-analeaia,— everybody's order. i went up to the-and isaid, i'm - everybody's order. i went up to the and said, i'm not the bar and i said, i'm not aging— the bar and i said, i'm not ganglan— the bar and i said, i'm not doinglon-silly- doing it on you silly app. reigne— doing it on you silly app. right?-order- doing it on you silly app.i right?-order.like right? can we order it like anne—annl right? can we order it like. anne—ann nay this? and that's the only way were-enn— this? and that's the only way ne-ne-eaan n.- this? and that's the only way we're stop it. because we're going to stop it. because if we're going to stop it. because in peopie— we're going to stop it. because in people nan-a— we're going to stop it. because if people won't spend money in aneee— if people won't spend money in aneee places— if people won't spend money in these places, they— if people won't spend money in these places, they have these places, they will have to. if we go into an app only restaurant at restaurant or cafe, we're out at the door. but the trouble is, agencie— the door. but the trouble is, councils want— the door. but the trouble is, councils want this- : but the trouble is, councils want this parking thing

to councils want this parking thingi aa—aney to be cashless because then they nan-a— to be cashless because then they eena-nave— to be cashless because then they eena-nave ae— to be cashless because then they don't-have as many- don't have to have as many panning— don't have to have as many parking attendants. they don't don't have to have as many parki to attendants. they don't don't have to have as many parki to attencasts. they don't don't have to have as many parki to attencasts. thepeople. have to apply as many people. it's have to apply as many people. n-e—ia-el it's easier for them and it's ane— it's easier for them and it's ane earne— it's easier for them and it's ane in— it's easier for them and it's the same in shops. don't the same in shops. they don't want—ga— the same in shops. they don't want—go aa- the same in shops. they don't want—go to the- the same in shops. they don'ti want—go to the bank want to have to go to the bank at want to have to go to the bank aa—ane— want to have to go to the bank aa—ane nay.- want to have to go to the bank aa—ane nay. sa- want to have to go to the bank at the day. so they at the end of the day. so they say,— at the end of the day. so they nan-take— at the end of the day. so they nan-aane-naal at the end of the day. so they| say,-take-but it say, we don't take cash, but it nia— say, we don't take cash, but it nit anne— say, we don't take cash, but it will drive _online.- will drive people online. yeah, in — will drive people online. yeah, in _out- will drive people online. yeah, i'm _out whetheri i'm going to find out whether it is illegal— i'm going to find out whether it n illegal-aa- i'm going to find out whether it is illegal-to refuse- is illegal for them to refuse gaun— is illegal for them to refuse. year—n your cash because i'm sure it can-a— your cash because i'm sure it cant be— your cash because i'm sure it cant be. i— your cash because i'm sure it can't be. it can't— your cash because i'm sure it can't be. it can't be illegal. so can't be. it can't be illegal. so we— can't be. it can't be illegal. so we inna— can't be. it can't be illegal. so we just insist. but i think the there the point you make, bev, there about how you feel like you're the in that the waitress in that circumstance, so true. circumstance, this is so true. when the shop now, when i go to the shop now, i feel as if i'm doing the checkout. we are? yes. you're you're not getting paid for it. no. cheap. exactly. no. more cheap. exactly. and this time. you no. more cheap. exactly. and this time . you go to no. more cheap. exactly. and this time. you go to w this is our time. you go to w snin— this is our time. you go to w snwn ana— this is our time. you go to w smith and they— this is our time. you go to w smith and they point- ” e you go to w smith and they point you to the sen—eeme.— smith and they point you to the self—service. and— smith and they point you to the self—service. and i— smith and they point you to the self—service. and i say, why are you— self—service. and i say, why are you awning— self—service. and i say, why are you putting yourself out of a job?— you putting yourself out of a jon—90- you putting yourself out of a ione—go aa- you putting yourself out of a ione—go w the| job? i'm going to go to the nu. — job? i'm going to go to the nil-g..- job? i'm going to go to the. ww-in-wn till. can i pay in cash? no, nan— till. can i pay in cash? no, new nua— till. can i pay in cash? no, but. but more— till. can i pay in cash? no, but. but more and more of our time is up doing other time is used up doing other people's you know, there's people's jobs. you know, there's a part me wouldn't mind quite a part of me wouldn't mind quite so if it meant that we got so much if it meant that we got a discount the things we're a discount on the things we're buying cafes and buying food in cafes and restaurants or supermarkets was cheaper the fact cheaper to acknowledge the fact that we doing even that we are doing this even quicker or more convenient because these things are sold

under the idea that it's convenient. it's never more eanwenena— convenient. it's never more convenient, it's— f" n; it's never more convenient, it's never quicker. wnenewen— convenient, it's never quicker. wnenewen-ane- convenient, it's never quicker. whenever the self whenever we do the self eneewaww— whenever we do the self checkout, there's always a couple— checkout, there's always a. couple—90 couple of people have to go anewna— couple of people have to go around-_youl couple of people have to go- around._you stand around. yeah, because you stand anene— around. yeah, because you stand there - unexpected. - around. yeah, because you stand there unexpected. item there and it's unexpected. item in there and it's unexpected. item nne—— there and it's unexpected. item ina— wan-we- in bagging area or you've bought awine-— in bagging area or you've bought a-wine—nawel a bottle of wine and they have it a bottle of wine and they have i ieeen-i— a bottle of wine and they have it doesn't-and - a bottle of wine and they have it doesn't-and also. a bottle of wine and they have. it doesn't-and also when it doesn't work. and also when people you're going a people if you're going into a getting train and people are getting a train and people are using their with ticket using their phone with a ticket and it takes forever, can't and it takes forever, why can't you in? i you just put the ticket in? i had last week. standing had that last week. i'm standing wiin—iningi with my ticket against the thing and—in— with my ticket against the thing ani—i-n ieei- with my ticket against the thing and i'm just shouting and i'm going, i'm just shouting nanni— and i'm going, i'm just shouting wanna-wann- round. it doesn't work. it ieeen-i— round. it doesn't work. it ween-i-- round. it doesn't work. it doesn't-. and- round. it doesn't work. it doesn't . and someone doesn't work. and someone eweniwaiiw— doesn't work. and someone eventually probably down to you, cani— eventually probably down to you, egg, wne— eventually probably down to you, carol, who wasn't— eventually probably down to you, carol, who wasn't . _ eventually probably down to you, carol, who wasn't . \nn:::n nzzn" carol, who wasn't. no. come on, you— carol, who wasn't. no. come on, you make me look . oh, let's just you make me look. oh, let's just see you make me look. oh, let's just new— you make me look. oh, let's just new wea— you make me look. oh, let's just new you ga— you make me look. oh, let's just see how you go this— oh, let'sjust see how you go this week. right. okav- — see how you go this week. right. okay. snowin— see how you go this week. right. okay. should we— see how you go this week. right. okay. should we talk- see how you go this week. right. okay. : okay. should we talk about the scotland situation? north of the border? spoken you border? we've not spoken to you about this yet this morning with scott. scott benton. sorry. no. would you want to do scott benton? no. let's talk about semiann— benton? no. let's talk about seeiiani. — benton? no. let's talk about scotland. let's— benton? no. let's talk about scotland. let's talk- , no. let's talk about scotland. let's talk about scotland. let's talk about scotland. we've that. we scotland. we've done that. we have that. okay got scotland. we've done that. we haveviewersiat. okay got scotland. we've done that. we haveviewers at. okay got scotland. we've done that. we haveviewers at thisay got scotland. we've done that. we haveviewers at this time. whot new viewers at this time. who would you'd would have thought you'd see a forensic— would have thought you'd see a forensic tent— would have thought you'd see a forensic tent in— would have thought you'd see a forensic tent in the— would have thought you'd see a forensic tent in the front garden— forensic tent in the front garden ei— forensic tent in the front garden of who until a few weeks ago garden of who until a few weeks age wa— garden of who until a few weeks age ine— garden of who until a few weeks ago was the longest serving wine— ago was the longest serving prime minister,— ago was the longest serving prime minister, first minister ago was the longest serving prieurope? :er, first minister ago was the longest serving prieurope? / st minister ago was the longest serving prieurope? / \nn:::n iinister ago was the longest serving prieurope? “43?" \nn:::n gister

ago was the longest serving prieurope? / \nn:::n e e sr in europe? yeah. no, it it's absolutely shocking. and front page of every paper. well page of every paper. yes. well it is. it's on the front page of lots of them, but not all of them . and you're right, it them. and you're right, it absolutely should be. i mean, this is a shocking thing. and they're saying tents being they're saying the tents being erected keep erected so that they can keep the eyes of the press off, things that documents that are being brought out of the sturgeon's house searching her bins . yeah. yeah. but but bins. yeah. yeah. but but sturgeon and borrell i mean the very fact that they are married that they've been in this long term and they had term relationship and they had the scottish national party stitched up essentially between the two of them. they had complete control over what was happening in that political party that should not be allowed to happen. i think i think sne-ii— to happen. i think i think sne-ii ie— i think i think she'll be questioned by the neiiee— she'll be questioned by the neiiee-nane- police, too. oh, i hope so. ainaiwieiw— police, too. oh, i hope so. aieaiwieiw — police, too. oh, i hope so. absolutely i— police, too. oh, i hope so. absolutely " police, too. oh, i hope so.- absolutely i mean, i think the police have absolute duty to police have an absolute duty to question, way, question, although by the way, it's it's working it's looking like it's working because it's looking like it's working becaunow whether the election asked now whether the election of the leader of the first of the new leader of the first minister put off to allow minister was put off to allow that to happen. so if that's the we have to find that out first, because in that case, any

questioning is questioning by the police is irrelevant. police in irrelevant. if the police are in their the police their pockets, if the police are doing is doing their bidding, the snp is bidding. there's no point. bidding. if there's no point. but i mean, to me, this is just the irony that the most delicious irony that this is the woman who any mp, any westminster mp or politician or minister who put a foot wrong sturgeon was on their necks like a rat up a drain. moral paragon. yeah and she's now up to , you yeah and she's now up to, you know, she might not have known about the missing money, about the 600 grand. but the bottom line is that party stinks . line is that party stinks. everything it does stinks. and everyone in it is the same thing. and i just think it's incredible. she was going on about you know, the about boris being, you know, the lowest the low for maybe lowest of the low for maybe having a piece birthday having a piece of birthday cake, which glass which you know, had and a glass of look what her of prosecco and look what her party to. was in party is up to. if i was in scotland i'd be demanding party is up to. if i was in sc(election i'd be demanding party is up to. if i was in sc(election . i 'd be demanding party is up to. if i was in sc(election . i think demanding party is up to. if i was in sc(election . i think that'siding party is up to. if i was in sc(election . i think that's what an election. i think that's what the an election. i think that's what we seamen— an election. i think that's what the scottish people— n?" f nzzn" i think that's what the scottish people need because anew-we— they've had this continuity eaniiiaie— they've had this continuity candidate in— they've had this continuity candidate in humza yousaf iaieiei— candidate in humza yousaf foisted-them,- candidate in humza yousaf foisted them, voted in by foisted upon them, voted in by a inw— foisted upon them, voted in by a in nwnnei— foisted upon them, voted in by a in nwnnei ai— foisted upon them, voted in by a tiny number of people in a very wen— tiny number of people in a very wen snap— tiny number of people in a very rush snap election,— tiny number of people in a very rush snap election, you know, wiin— rush snap election, you know, wiin na— rush snap election, you know, win no neai— rush snap election, you know, with no real credibility as far as in— with no real credibility as far as i'm concerned, off the back of ai— as i'm concerned, off the back of aii ai— as i'm concerned, off the back

of all of this— as i'm concerned, off the back of all of this dispute with with eiwgean. — of all of this dispute with with eiwgean. ana,— of all of this dispute with with sturgeon. and, you know , i think sturgeon. and, you know, i think the sturgeon. and, you know, i think we seaman— sturgeon. and, you know, i think the scottish people deserve ieiier. — the scottish people deserve better. and,— the scottish people deserve better. and, you- the scottish people deserve better. ' n: xiii: better. and, you know, i pointed this out in the mirror when sturgeon every time. so when theresa may came in, she demanded a general election . demanded a general election. absolutely. when boris johnson came in to liz truss, she demanded , general, every time demanded, general, every time doesn't apply scotland . and doesn't apply in scotland. and this new guy, know , doesn't apply in scotland. and. this-new guy,-know , he's this the new guy, you know, he's not this the new guy, you know, he's noi-going— this the new guy, you know, he's noi-going ia— this the new guy, you know, he's noi-going tali- not he's not going to do it because— not he's not going to do it because he's— not he's not going to do it because he's he's lucky to be in were— because he's he's lucky to be in inene in— because he's he's lucky to be in inene in ine— because he's he's lucky to be in there in the first— because he's he's lucky to be in there in the first place. he eenanei— there in the first place. he eenanei-iinw- there in the first place. he scraped tiny, tiny, the scraped in by a tiny, tiny, the iinieei— scraped in by a tiny, tiny, the tiniest minorities— scraped in by a tiny, tiny, the tiniest minorities because the seaman— tiniest minorities because the scottish _ people i tiniest minorities because the scottish people in scottish public, the people in genenaiiw— scottish public, the people in genenaiiw nai— scottish public, the people in generally not the party, the awnin— generally not the party, the public,-wanted. - generally not the party, the public, wanted. kate forbes public, they wanted. kate forbes neeawee— public, they wanted. kate forbes neeawee sne-e— public, they wanted. kate forbes because she's she's kind of sne-e— because she's she's kind of ene-e nai— because she's she's kind of she's not like— because she's she's kind of she's not like lunatic snp, like new— she's not like lunatic snp, like new — she's not like lunatic snp, like new ani— she's not like lunatic snp, like they are. and you— she's not like lunatic snp, like they are. and you know, they wii— they are. and you know, they wiii forgive— they are. and you know, they will forgive the— they are. and you know, they will forgive the snp. they're the will forgive the snp. they're ine nann— will forgive the snp. they're the hard core— will forgive the snp. they're the hard core nationalists ieeawee— the hard core nationalists because-just- the hard core nationalistsi because-just-an because they just want an independent— because they just want an independent scotland , which independent scotland, which inani— independent scotland, which inane-ie— independent scotland, which inane-is a— independent scotland, whichi thank-is a-miles thank god, is a million miles away.— thank god, is a million miles away. .wnaw— thank god, is a million miles away.-know, it's- thank god, is a million miles away. know, it's not so far away. you know, it's not so far away— away. you know, it's not so far away ien-i— away. you know, it's not so far away now, isn't it— away. you know, it's not so far away now, isn't it ? viii“ away now, isn't it? well, that wii— away now, isn't it? well, that will he have to answer questions, think about will he have to answer quesmuch think about will he have to answer quesmuch he think about will he have to answer quesmuch he knew1ink about will he have to answer quesmuch he knew about)out will he have to answer quesmuch he knew about the new how much he knew about the new leader, the new humza yousaf? yes, was her yes, because he was her eaniiiaie— yes, because he was her- candidate._choice as candidate. he was her choice as joe candidate. he was her choice as iae sawe— candidate. he was her choice as iae saws ne— candidate. he was her choice as iae saws ne wa— candidate. he was her choice as joe says, he was the continuity. wee— joe says, he was the continuity. we-e—eaiinei- joe says, he was the continuity. he's—cabinet since,| he's been in the cabinet since,

i he's been in the cabinet since, i ininw— he's been in the cabinet since, iininw-ne-e- he's been in the cabinet since, ithink,-he's a- he's been in the cabinet since, i think,-he's a key. i think, 2010. so he's a key niawen— i think, 2010. so he's a key niawen .— i think, 2010. so he's a key player . wee.— i think, 2010. so he's a key player . yes. and- i think, 2010. so he's a key player . yes. and he's a big player. yes. and he's a big enaiaw— player. yes. and he's a big shadow over— player. yes. and he's a big shadow over his- player. yes. and he's a big shadow over his leader. and remember, he— shadow over his leader. and remember, he was the one the party,— remember, he was the one the nanw ine— remember, he was the one the nanw ine swi— remember, he was the one the party, the snp wanted to put in were.— party, the snp wanted to put in inene. — party, the snp wanted to put in inene. ana— party, the snp wanted to put in there. and like— party, the snp wanted to put in there. and like almost- party, the snp wanted to put in there. ' e " there. and like almost shoved in there. and like almost shoved in there. so yeah , i mean he there. so yeah, i mean he he must as much as sturgeon must know as much as sturgeon you one would imagine and all of them should be. but you know to see morrell dragged off yesterday arrested i mean was cheering and she and she left the house 28 minutes after the police. yes no it's disgusting. sne— police. yes no it's disgusting. sne neei— police. yes no it's disgusting. she must have— nan; yes no it's disgusting. she must have known. absolutely it she must have known. absolutely w ieaiiw— she must have known. absolutely w ieaiiw sinis- — she must have known. absolutely it really stinks. and— she must have known. absolutely it really stinks. and i— she must have known. absolutely it really stinks. and i think- it really stinks. and i think you're absolutely right, humza yousaf he must be up to his neck in this as well. but of in all of this as well. but of course, we're all talking about this. you know course, we're all talking about this. is you know course, we're all talking about this. is absolute you know course, we're all talking about this. is absolute scandal)w course, we're all talking about this.it's absolute scandal)w course, we're all talking about this.it's importantte scandal)w course, we're all talking about this.it's important thatandal)w course, we're all talking about this.it's important thatand talk and it's important that we talk about but there's another about it. but there's another layer what's in layer of what's going on in scotland. think also is scotland. i think that also is scandalous. the nhs scandalous. you know, the nhs waiting list times are worse than in england. the of than in england. the number of people drug related people dying from drug related deaths scotland is at record deaths in scotland is at record in the whole of europe. i mean, these things are absolutely scandalous. the schools , the scandalous. the schools, the education system has gone

downhill . you know, there is downhill. you know, there is nothing in scotland . it doesn't nothing in scotland. it doesn't seem to me that that's actually working properly, as you'd expect it. that's what makes it all expect it. that's what makes it aii-ewnneing- expect it. that's what makes it aii-ewnneing .- expect it. that's what makes it all-surprising . wheni all the more surprising. when the all the more surprising. when ine—inai- all the more surprising. when the _that the - all the more surprising. when| the—that the snp the last election that the snp got the last election that the snp gei waiei— the last election that the snp got voted back— the last election that the snp got voted back in, knowing the annaiiing— got voted back in, knowing the appalling record,— got voted back in, knowing the appalling record, i mean, it's seeiiani— appalling record, i mean, it's seaiiani ie— appalling record, i mean, it's scotland is nearly bust you know inen— scotland is nearly bust you know inein inen— scotland is nearly bust you know their their gdp— scotland is nearly bust you know their their gdp was— scotland is nearly bust you know their their gdp was a brilliant communicator. _ their their gdp was a brilliant communicator. well she was she neei— communicator. well she was she need ia— communicator. well she was she need ia iaiw— communicator. well she was she used to talk her— communicator. well she was she used to talk her way out of winge— used to talk her way out of ininge.|weei— used to talk her way out of things.iused to- used to talk her way out of things. used to wonder she things. i used to wonder how she got things. i used to wonder how she gei—exactn- things. i used to wonder how she. gei—exaceiw new got out. well i know exactly how she was obvious she got out. it was very obvious what would she would what she would do. she would always just point the finger at westminster. her westminster. that was her key card. we're not london. we're not westminster. they were devolved to work. it was a stupid argument- 3: it was a stupid argument because scotland was stupid argument because scotland iewaiweai— stupid argument because scotland was devolved, but— stupid argument because scotland was devolved, but they for neaiin— was devolved, but they for neaiin ani— was devolved, but they for health and education, they fell for health and education, they fell ianlieeawee— health and education, they fell forlbecause she— health and education, they fell for because she winning. for it because she kept winning. wen.— for it because she kept winning. wen-awa— for it because she kept winning. weii. _nwe new— for it because she kept winning. well,-but how-people. well, yeah, but how do people voting for it? i voting for them fall for it? i don't get it. and they will get in again— don't get it. and they will get in again wiin— don't get it. and they will get in again with a— don't get it. and they will get in again with a majority. i mean i in again with a majority. i mean i-wnaw— in again with a majority. i mean i-wnew they— in again with a majority. i mean i-wnew they-do- in again with a majority. i mean i-know they-do you. i don't know they will. do you ininw— i don't know they will. do you wink—i- i don't know they will. do you ininw—i ia- - think they will? yes, i do. i ia— think they will? yes, i do. i ia-i— think they will? yes, i do. i do-ii ia- — think they will? yes, i do. i do.-i do. but- think they will? yes, i do. i do. i do. g�*nzrnz; ll think they will? yes, i do. i. do.-i do. but there'll be do. but i do. but there'll be more mps in scotland more labour mps in scotland in the election that's more labour mps in scotland in the to election that's more labour mps in scotland in the to make ection that's more labour mps in scotland in the to make ition that's more labour mps in scotland in the to make it much that's more labour mps in scotland in the to make it much more:'s going to make it much more difficult for the to hold difficult for the tories to hold on. deliver on. and this could deliver victory for sir keir starmer. can you your easter can i ask you about your easter plans? it's bank

plans? it's thursday. it's bank naiiiaw—wnaii holiday friday tomorrow. what are holiday friday tomorrow. what ae- cani- holiday friday tomorrow. what are-, carol,.thel are you doing, carol, at the weekende— are you doing, carol, at the weekend?_|'ml are you doing, carol, at the- weekend?_|'m going to are you doing, carol, at the- we withd?_|'m going to are you doing, carol, at the- we withd?.and - i'm going to are you doing, carol, at the- we withd?.and he's i'm going to are you doing, carol, at the- we withd?.and he's comingig to are you doing, carol, at the- we withd?.and he's coming up.) be with him and he's coming up. he's coming to our house with a couple of friends and couple of other friends and bnng couple of other friends and bring your own booze, because i know get through. know how much you get through. yeah, that. know how much you get through. yeaithere'll that. know how much you get through. yeaithere'll lots that. know how much you get through. yeaithere'll lots of that. and there'll be lots of chocolate and lots of. well, i won't the chocolate, chocolate and lots of. well, i woni'm the chocolate, chocolate and lots of. well, i woni'm bringingthe chocolate, chocolate and lots of. well, i woni'm bringing you:hocolate, chocolate and lots of. well, i woni'm bringing you an:olate, chocolate and lots of. well, i woni'm bringing you an easter but i'm bringing you an easter egg. malone. how about you, joe? wen.— egg. malone. how about you, joe? wen-ea— egg. malone. how about you, joe? wen-ea cani— egg. malone. how about you, joe? well,-to carol just— well, i said to carol just before came that i've before we came on air that i've got cross buns at home got eight hot cross buns at home that .is got eight hot cross buns at home that . is that come on, that are. is that it? come on, you better. oh, wait. oh you can do better. oh, wait. oh wait for all you. eight wait of them for all you. eight of inen— wait of them for all you. eight of them win— wait of them for all you. eight of them with my name on. were of them with my name on. we were talking you talking about the best way, you know. salted caramel know. do you want salted caramel in you savoury in them? do you want a savoury chew joe. joe doesn't like chew or joe. joe doesn't like inan— chew or joe. joe doesn't like wan-wanin- chew or joe. joe doesn't like. that. _wants-but that. she just wants plain. but i-apple_ that. she just wants plain. but i-annie eaiiei— that. she just wants plain. but i apple salted caramel. i want apple salted caramel. we.— i want apple salted caramel. we. need.— i want apple salted caramel. no. good. what— i want apple salted caramel. no. good. what are- i want apple salted caramel. no. good. what are you- i want apple salted caramel. no. good. what are you doing? hot cross bun. i'm going to be enaeing— hot cross bun. i'm going to be enaeing ine— hot cross bun. i'm going to be chasing the kids— hot cross bun. i'm going to be chasing the kids around the garden.— chasing the kids around the garden. quite— chasing the kids around the garden. quite a— chasing the kids around the garden. quite a bit. my mum's got garden. quite a bit. my mum's gei an— garden. quite a bit. my mum's gei an egg— garden. quite a bit. my mum's gei an egg nuni— garden. quite a bit. my mum's got an egg hunt planned. they've been— got an egg hunt planned. they've been ining— got an egg hunt planned. they've been ining ia— got an egg hunt planned. they've been ining ia ia- — got an egg hunt planned. they've been trying to do. the have been trying to do. the kids have been—ine- been trying to do. the kids have been—ine egg- been mithering for the egg nann— been mithering for the egg hunts. there's— been mithering for the egg hunts. there's little hunts. there's like six little gin—ien- hunts. there's like six little. gini—ian-egg girl cousins. my in for the egg nuni— girl cousins. my in for the egg. hunt—wednesday. hunt since midweek wednesday. can hunt since midweek wednesday. can-ia— hunt since midweek wednesday. can-ea ii— hunt since midweek wednesday. can .do it today?— hunt since midweek wednesday. can do it today? nana can can we do it today? nana can we do can we do it today? nana can we ia-wana— can we do it today? nana can we ia-wana ani— can we do it today? nana can we do-nana and she's- can we do it today? nana can we do nana and she's made do it today? nana and she's made inen— do it today? nana and she's made wen—ine— do it today? nana and she's made them _the weekend. i do it today? nana and she's made thenthen the weekend. do it today? nana and she's made thenthen said, he weekend. do it today? nana and she's made thenthen said, i'mveekend. do it today? nana and she's made thenthen said, i'm walking and then as i said, i'm walking the and then as i said, i'm walking ine—eaaei— and then as i said, i'm walking ine—eaaei-nwl the catalonian coast with my

gorgeous— gorgeous other half. next, simon caiaei— gorgeous other half. next, simon calder said, fabulous, calder said, it's a fabulous, fabulous world. so fabulous part of the world. so that's not here to the that's it. i'm not here to the end of our show for week end of our show for the week next bev's with me. next week. bev's not with me. next here with dawn next week i'm here with dawn neesom. coming next. neesom. i'm coming up next. it is live with is gb news gb news live with mark longhurst. have a great weekend. — mark longhurst. have a great weekend. there. aidan weekend. hi there. it's aidan mcgivern office mcgivern from the met office wednesday's rain is clearing now but heavy showers follow for many of us in between some bright spells and certainly feeling warmer compared with yesterday . the weather fronts yesterday. the weather fronts that pushed the rain in during wednesday are now clearing , but wednesday are now clearing, but they're down. so they're slowing down. and so some persistent rain lingering for far north—east of for the far north—east of aberdeenshire orkney and aberdeenshire into orkney and shetland through the rest of the morning . and the first part morning. and for the first part of as well, of the afternoon, as well, shetland rain shetland keeps the rain throughout day. elsewhere, throughout the day. elsewhere, a brighter sky, still a lot of cloud and some showers. the liveliest downpours likely across central and southern as well as eastern parts of england where could be some thunderstorms in places, even some hail. but away from the showers, sunshine and temperatures up to 15 or 16 celsius in the south with feeling colder where we've got

that persistent rain towards the north—east that north—east of scotland that continues into evening , but continues into the evening, but it eventually fizzles out overnight across shetland , a lot overnight across shetland, a lot of cloud remains in the north sea , but elsewhere, showers die sea, but elsewhere, showers die away and the clouds disappear as away and the clouds disappear as a result. a frosty night to come in rural spots and even in towns and cities , temperatures dipping and cities, temperatures dipping to 2 to 4 celsius. so a chilly start to good friday, but actually for most, it's a sunny start and long spells of sunshine continue through the morning and into the afternoon for the vast majority . one for the vast majority. one exception, some of these north sea coastal counties where we're going to see low cloud reappear through the day. some mistiness around the beaches and some drizzle. that's going to make it feel colder, 10 to 12 celsius on the north sea coast. but we've got sunshine elsewhere for got the sunshine elsewhere for 12 to 16 degrees. so a pleasant afternoon to come for the vast majority . and that continues majority. and that continues into the evening as well as much of the weekend, saturday and sunday are looking like a repeat

performance with plenty of warm, sunny spells across the uk. still some of that low cloud affecting north sea coast . by affecting north sea coast. by monday, a spell of rain followed by showers, by . there's help for households. are you over state pension age? if your weekly income is below £182.60, or £278.70 if you live with a partner, you could be eligible for pension credit, even if you own your home or have savings. it's worth, on average, £3,500 a year and you could get help with heating bills and more, plus up to £900 in cost of living payments.

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iwnnen— without charge. but it's pending further investigations.