hello there. welcome back. good evening. . hello there. welcome back. good evening. .-m— . hello there. welcome back. good evening. i'm bethany— hello there. welcome back. good evening. i'm bethany elsey with your—from— evening. i'm bethany elsey with your—from the- evening. i'm bethany elsey with your—from the gb. your top stories from the gb newsroom room. a funeral has been— been held for two british—israeli who were british—israeli sisters who were killed — british—israeli sisters who were killed in— british—israeli sisters who were killed in an— british—israeli sisters who were killed in an attack— british—israeli sisters who were killed in an attack by palestine lions.— killed in an attack by palestine nons- rina— killed in an attack by palestine lions. rina and— killed in an attack by palestine lions. rina and maya, aged 15 and— lions. rina and maya, aged 15 and 20,— lions. rina and maya, aged 15 and 20, wee— lions. rina and maya, aged 15 and 20, were shot— lions. rina and maya, aged 15 and 20, were shot in their car near an israeli— and 20, were shot in their car near an israeli settlement in we— near an israeli settlement in the occupied— near an israeli settlement in the occupied west bank on fridav-_ the occupied west bank on friday- new— the occupied west bank on friday. their mother remains in a critical— friday. their mother remains in a critical condition. conflict wee— a critical condition. conflict was flawed— a critical condition. conflict has flared in— a critical condition. conflict has flared in the region during the has flared in the region during

we were— has flared in the region during the rare crossover— has flared in the region during the rare crossover of easter, ramadan— the rare crossover of easter, ramadan and— the rare crossover of easter, ramadan and passover. the rare crossover of easter, ramadan and passover . the ramadan and passover. the patients— ramadan and passover. the patients face— ramadan and passover. the patients face unpack held levels of patients face unpack held levels ef wewpwew— patients face unpack held levels of disruption when— patients face unpack held levels of disruption when junior doctore— of disruption when junior doctors start— of disruption when junior doctors start a- of disruption when junior doctors start a four day strike on weeeew — doctors start a four day strike on tuesday. that's the warning from— on tuesday. that's the warning from wws— on tuesday. that's the warning from nhs national medical director— from nhs national medical director professor stephen powe— director professor stephen we we— director professor stephen powis. he says— director professor stephen powis. he says he's very concerned with- powis. he says he's very concerned with hospitals facing weerw— concerned with hospitals facing weeww woo — concerned with hospitals facing nearly 100 hours— concerned with hospitals facing nearly 100 hours without up to heu— nearly 100 hours without up to hate ef— nearly 100 hours without up to half of their— nearly 100 hours without up to half of their medical workforce. wee— half of their medical workforce. the wws— half of their medical workforce. the nhs confederation says a quarter— the nhs confederation says a quarter ef— the nhs confederation says a quarter of e— the nhs confederation says a quarter of a million appointments could be postponed . a ew— appointments could be postponed . a ewwew— appointments could be postponed . a new survey reveals more than 1 w— . a new survey reveals more than 1 we we— . a new survey reveals more than 1 in 10 teachers— . a new survey reveals more than 1 in 10 teachers have— . a new survey reveals more than 1 in 10 teachers have been physically— 1 in 10 teachers have been physically assaulted by a student— physically assaulted by a student in— physically assaulted by a student in the- physically assaulted by a student in the last year. the ween— student in the last year. the says— student in the last year. the union says teachers have been kicked,— union says teachers have been kicked, bitten _ union says teachers have been kicked, bitten and— union says teachers have been kicked, bitten and punched by pewte— kicked, bitten and punched by pupils whist— kicked, bitten and punched by pupils wwwet 1— kicked, bitten and punched by pupils whilst 1 in 4 have faced werew— pupils whilst 1 in 4 have faced verbal abuse— pupils whilst 1 in 4 have faced verbal abuse from a parent or et— verbal abuse from a parent or at we— verbal abuse from a parent or carer at the union's annual conference in— carer at the union's annual conference in glasgow , members conference in glasgow, members seeke— conference in glasgow, members spoke about— conference in glasgow, members spoke about how— conference in glasgow, members spoke about how they'd also been subjected— spoke about how they'd also been subjected te— spoke about how they'd also been subjected to racism _ spoke about how they'd also been subjected to racism , sexual subjected to racism, sexual assault— subjected to racism, sexual assault and— subjected to racism, sexual assault and homophobe fear. theweewee— assault and homophobe fear. thousands thousands of expectant

mowers— thousands thousands of expectant mothers wit— thousands thousands of expectant mothers will get— thousands thousands of expectant mothers will get a— thousands thousands of expectant mothers will get a maternity euewewee— mothers will get a maternity allowance boost— mothers will get a maternity allowance boost of 10.1. the increase will— allowance boost of 10.1. the increase will see— allowance boost of 10.1. the increase will see payments go up by ewe-ee— increase will see payments go up by £15.82 a— increase will see payments go up by £15.82 a week. _ increase will see payments go up by £15.82 a week. it— increase will see payments go up by £15.82 a week. it equates to eewwe— by £15.82 a week. it equates to eewee few— by £15.82 a week. it equates to around £617 over— by £15.82 a week. it equates to around £617 over the 39 weeks wew— around £617 over the 39 weeks that w— around £617 over the 39 weeks that w ew— around £617 over the 39 weeks that it can be— around £617 over the 39 weeks that it can be claimed. the eeewweew— that it can be claimed. the department for— that it can be claimed. the department for work and pensions ewe— department for work and pensions ewe wee— department for work and pensions says the automatic— department for work and pensions says the automatic increase will benefit— says the automatic increase will benefit around _ says the automatic increase will benefit around 40,000 parents wee— benefit around 40,000 parents this yew— benefit around 40,000 parents this wew .— benefit around 40,000 parents this wew. few— benefit around 40,000 parents this year. four people have been wuee— this year. four people have been killed we— this year. four people have been killed in several— this year. four people have been killed in several others injured in we— killed in several others injured in an avalanche— killed in several others injured in an avalanche in the french awe. — in an avalanche in the french awe. wwee-e— in an avalanche in the french alps. france's interior minister ewe— alps. france's interior minister ewe wee— alps. france's interior minister says the victims— alps. france's interior minister says the victims had been climbing— says the victims had been climbing the— says the victims had been climbing the almond glacier near mew— climbing the almond glacier near mew biwee— climbing the almond glacier near mew ewwe .— climbing the almond glacier near mont blanc . rescue workers are mont blanc. rescue workers are eewwwwwe— mont blanc. rescue workers are eewwwwwe te— mont blanc. rescue workers are continuing to search for further eeewwwee— continuing to search for further eeewwwee .— continuing to search for further casualties. eight— continuing to search for further casualties . eight people are not casualties. eight people are not responding— casualties. eight people are not eeeeeewee te— casualties. eight people are not responding to calls and are believed— responding to calls and are believed to— responding to calls and are believed to still— responding to calls and are believed to still be trapped weer— believed to still be trapped under rubble— believed to still be trapped under rubble after two residential— under rubble after two residential buildings collapsed in marseille._ residential buildings collapsed in marseille. french authorities say in marseille. french authorities ew we— in marseille. french authorities say an explosion— in marseille. french authorities say an explosion caused the incident,— say an explosion caused the incident, but— say an explosion caused the incident, but the _ say an explosion caused the incident, but the cause is wnknewn— incident, but the cause is unknown . it— incident, but the cause is unknown . it sparked a fire that unknown. it sparked a fire that eenewewee— unknown. it sparked a fire that complicated rescue efforts. five eeewe— complicated rescue efforts. five people nwe— complicated rescue efforts. five people have been— complicated rescue efforts. five people have been taken to neennw—

people have been taken to hospital with _ people have been taken to hospital with serious injuries. 30 hospital with serious injuries. see nearby— hospital with serious injuries. 30 nearby buildings have also been— 30 nearby buildings have also been evacuated— 30 nearby buildings have also been evacuated ._ 30 nearby buildings have also been evacuated . the king, queen been evacuated. the king, queen ceneen— been evacuated. the king, queen ceneen ene— been evacuated. the king, queen consort and other— been evacuated. the king, queen consort and other senior royals nwe— consort and other senior royals have attended— consort and other senior royals have attended an— consort and other senior royals have attended an easter church eenwee— have attended an easter church eenwee w— have attended an easter church service at windsor— have attended an easter church service at windsor castle . it service at windsor castle. it newe— service at windsor castle. it new w— service at windsor castle. it was held at saint george's chapel— was held at saint george's chapel ene— was held at saint george's chapel and was- was held at saint george's chapel and was the first of cnenee-e— chapel and was the first of charles's reign.— chapel and was the first of charles's reign. the occasion newe— charles's reign. the occasion we en— charles's reign. the occasion we en we— charles's reign. the occasion falls on the second anniversary of falls on the second anniversary ee ennee— falls on the second anniversary of prince philip's— falls on the second anniversary of prince philip's death. both he of prince philip's death. both ne ene— of prince philip's death. both ne we we— of prince philip's death. both he and the late— of prince philip's death. both he and the late queen have been twe— he and the late queen have been ewe te— he and the late queen have been ewe te new— he and the late queen have been laid to rest in— he and the late queen have been laid to rest in the— he and the late queen have been laid to rest in the grounds of we— laid to rest in the grounds of we chapel— laid to rest in the grounds of we enweew .— laid to rest in the grounds of the chapel . you're up to date on the chapel. you're up to date on tv, the chapel. you're up to date on w, ennne— the chapel. you're up to date on w, ennne ,— the chapel. you're up to date on tv, online , dab+_ the chapel. you're up to date on tv, online , dab+ radio, and on tv, online, dab+ radio, and on wne— tv, online, dab+ radio, and on tune in.— tv, online, dab+ radio, and on tune in. ente— tv, online, dab+ radio, and on tune in. this is— tv, online, dab+ radio, and on tune in. this is gb— tv, online, dab+ radio, and on tune in. this is gb news. now we— tune in. this is gb news. now tee time— tune in. this is gb news. now tee time new— tune in. this is gb news. now it's time for free— tune in. this is gb news. now it's time for free speech nation donald trump may face jail time. the musical grease gets an annoying new reboot , time. the musical grease gets an annoying new reboot, and nike promotes regressive, sexist stereotypes to sell more trainers. this is free speech

nafion trainers. this is free speech nation . welcome to the show. so nation. welcome to the show. so on tonight's show, i'm going- weenie" so on tonight's show, i'm going to be newne— on tonight's show, i'm going to be talking te— on tonight's show, i'm going to be talking to heather binning wen— be talking to heather binning wen we— be talking to heather binning from the women's rights network and newne— from the women's rights network and therapist james sps about the and therapist james sps about tne-aw— and therapist james sps about tne-aw ene- and therapist james sps about the-act and how- and therapist james sps about the act and how the the equality act and how the were— the equality act and how the were ee— the equality act and how the word sex ought— the equality act and how the word sex ought to be clarified as-biological- word sex ought to be clarified as-biological sex,- word sex ought to be clarified as biological sex, as as meaning biological sex, as though— as meaning biological sex, as though n— as meaning biological sex, as though it could— as meaning biological sex, as though it could mean anything wee.— though it could mean anything etee. — though it could mean anything etee. we-we— though it could mean anything else. we've got— though it could mean anything else. we've got joe- though it could mean anything else. cce cc." else. we've got joe biden's green economic policies may leave people in leave working class people in the . that's according the lurch. that's according to professor journalist james professor and journalist james wooderson, be here to wooderson, who'll be here to discuss and to be discuss it. and i'm going to be talking to royal correspondents rafe heydel—mankoo erg and michael about whether king michael cole about whether king charles ought to pay reparations for the slave trade . and for the slave trade. and tonight, my studio guests are the comedians scott capurro and tobias pearson, who welcome both . happy easter. happy easter. vewne— . happy easter. happy easter. wee getting— happy easter. happy easter. you're getting the eggs, scott . you're getting the eggs, scott. no, you're getting the eggs, scott. we. ne— you're getting the eggs, scott. we. no .— you're getting the eggs, scott. we. no . ._ you're getting the eggs, scott. we. no . . knew.— you're getting the eggs, scott. no, no , i know. i— you're getting the eggs, scott. no, no , i know. i know- you're getting the eggs, scott. no, no , i know. i know .- you're getting the eggs, scott. no, no , i know. i know. i- you're getting the eggs, scott. no, no, i know. i know. i don't know. all i wanted was was a veal shank, which i did get.

okay well, that's an interesting, very italian . a bit interesting, very italian. a bit of veal. okay. yeah pig's feet. well, pig's feet. my husband's brazilian. we eat all the creature and you don't do carbs.7 no, no, that'll be. what about you,— no, no, that'll be. what about wew, eeweee— no, no, that'll be. what about you, tobias? you've come over wen— you, tobias? you've come over wen-vee— you, tobias? you've come over wen-wee - you, tobias? you've come over from-yes we're- from sweden? yes we're celebrating celebrating celebrating easter, celebrating our lord. you do that in greta thunberg? yeah god love you. sorry, thunberg? yeah god love you. seww ._ thunberg? yeah god love you. senw . nee— thunberg? yeah god love you. senw, . nee te— thunberg? yeah god love you. sorry, i had to. yeah,- "zycj’ “cu?" god love you. sorry, i had to. yeah, you have to. sorry, i had to. yeah, you have te. yew— sorry, i had to. yeah, you have te. vew nwe— sorry, i had to. yeah, you have to. you have to— sorry, i had to. yeah, you have to. you have to get— sorry, i had to. yeah, you have to. you have to get warm. wennen— to. you have to get warm. mention-her- to. you have to get warm. mention-her in- to. you have to get warm. mention her in every every mention of her in every every enew.— mention of her in every every show. contractually show. you're contractually eeueee.— show. you're contractually obliged. to obliged. anyway, we're going to get—questions. obliged. anyway, we're going toj get—questions to get some audience questions to been— get some audience questions to newn-we-we— get some audience questions to newn-we-we get- get some audience questions to begin-we've got a- get some audience questions to begin we've got a question begin with. we've got a question wen— begin with. we've got a question wen anew — begin with. we've got a question from abdi. where— begin with. we've got a question from abdi. where abdi? oh, from abdi. where is abdi? oh, ween. — from abdi. where is abdi? oh, ween. - — from abdi. where is abdi? oh, ween. - ee— from abdi. where is abdi? oh, ween- weene- from abdi. where is abdi? oh, yeah.- is one night- from abdi. where is abdi? oh, yeah. " g yeah. hi. hi is one night out with a star bar worth going to prison for? oh, it's a bit of a new— prison for? oh, it's a bit of a new eweenen— prison for? oh, it's a bit of a risky question for— 51?" c”? oh, it's a bit of a risky question for the watershed. - risky question for the watershed. yeah, you would know . vee— watershed. yeah, you would know . wee. anwwew— watershed. yeah, you would know . wee. anwww, ew— watershed. yeah, you would know . yes. anyway, but this , of . yes. anyway, but this, of course, relates— . yes. anyway, but this, of course, relates to the $130,000 payment— course, relates to the $130,000 payment newe— course, relates to the $130,000 payment nwte ew— course, relates to the $130,000 payment made by donald trump to it payment made by donald trump to n we— payment made by donald trump to n nwen— payment made by donald trump to it was hush money,— payment made by donald trump to it was hush money, wasn't it, to stormy— it was hush money, wasn't it, to stormy daniels?— it was hush money, wasn't it, to stormy daniels? if— it was hush money, wasn't it, to stormy daniels? if it happened, wne— stormy daniels? if it happened, wne knewe— stormy daniels? if it happened, wne knewe e— stormy daniels? if it happened, who knows ? he— stormy daniels? if it happened, who knows ? he says it didn't who knows? he says it didn't neeeen.— who knows? he says it didn't neeeen. nee— who knows? he says it didn't happen. he's accused of ewenwne— happen. he's accused of falsifying his— happen. he's accused of falsifying his business records . se— falsifying his business records . se twe— falsifying his business records . se be e— falsifying his business records . so this is an— falsifying his business records . so this is an interesting one, seen. — . so this is an interesting one, scott. business— . so this is an interesting one, scott. business business? well,

eweneee— scott. business business? well, eweneee wee— scott. business business? well, business, yes, exactly. now, the wine— business, yes, exactly. now, the thing eeew— business, yes, exactly. now, the thing about this,— business, yes, exactly. now, the thing about this, i— business, yes, exactly. now, the thing about this, i mean, you're aenen— thing about this, i mean, you're aneneen yew— thing about this, i mean, you're american. you can— thing about this, i mean, you're american. you can speak on weneee— american. you can speak on nenew ef— american. you can speak on behalf of your— american. you can speak on behalf of your people, of course, about— behalf of your people, of course, about this. the truth is, course, about this. the truth .e-e— course, about this. the truth we-e wet— course, about this. the truth we-e wet ee- course, about this. the truth is, a lot of people course, about this. the truth. is,-a lot of people have is, though, a lot of people have a is, though, a lot of people have e aenn— is, though, a lot of people have a birth certificate— is, though, a lot of people have a birth certificate to prove it. i a birth certificate to prove it. w newe— a birth certificate to prove it. w newe — a birth certificate to prove it. i have one. no,— a birth certificate to prove it. i have one. no, i— a birth certificate to prove it. no, i know you do. i have one. no, i know you do. i weent— i have one. no, i know you do. i weent eeenne— no, i know you do. i wasn't casting aspersions, but you— wasn't casting aspersions, but wew knew,— wasn't casting aspersions, but wew knew, w-wee— wasn't casting aspersions, but you know, we've got people who are you know, we've got people who enn — you know, we've got people who enn wene— you know, we've got people who are anti trump and— you know, we've got people who are anti trump and pro trump. wene— are anti trump and pro trump. tnewe eeene— are anti trump and pro trump. there seems to— are anti trump and pro trump. there seems to bit of a there seems to be a bit of a consensus. there's a of a consensus. there's a bit of a week— consensus. there's a bit of a week-newe— consensus. there's a bit of a week-wenee - consensus. there's a bit of a weak-right? well,- consensus. there's a bit of a weak right? �*fw�*cge e consensus. there's a bit of a. weak-right? well, it's tax weak case right? well, it's tax fraud. being out on, fraud. he's being called out on, actually, because he made the payments his lawyer and payments through his lawyer and then it his tax form then declared it on his tax form as advice. love as legal advice. god, i love that. but doesn't it doesn't it hinge whether this hinge on whether this was a personal or to do with personal payment or to do with the because the campaign on because that changes misdemeanour changes it from a misdemeanour to a felony? it doesn't. also he's saying that they never that he's saying that they never that he with her, that he just chatted with her, that they anything, they didn't do anything, that she's exotic dancer she's more of an exotic dancer and companion. she. which is and a companion. she. which is creepy. creepy part. creepy. that's the creepy part. if course, it's if they banged, of course, it's donald of course he donald trump. of course he hires. but no, instead they just chatted and he drank diet coke. that me uncomfortable. chatted and he drank diet coke. thatstrikes me uncomfortable. chatted and he drank diet coke. thatstrikes measicomfortable. chatted and he drank diet coke. thatstrikes meas the ifortable. chatted and he drank diet coke. thatstrikes meas the sortable. chatted and he drank diet coke. that strikes me as the sort ofe. she strikes me as the sort of teen— she strikes me as the sort of eeeen yew— she strikes me as the sort of person you would— she strikes me as the sort of person you would want to just newe— person you would want to just nwe—wnn- have a conversation with. weeen-t— have a conversation with. doesn't-yeah.- have a conversation with. doesn't yeah. you know, doesn't she? yeah. you know, stormy—

doesn't she? yeah. you know, stormy tenn— doesn't she? yeah. you know, stormy isn't talking about nietzsche's _ stormy isn't talking abouti nietzsche's—but stormy isn't talking about- nietzsche's_but then stormy isn't talking about- niecalled,s_but then stormy isn't talking about- niecalled, s-helbut then stormy isn't talking about- niecalled,s-he labelledi he called, but then he labelled her he called, but then he labelled new-newee— he called, but then he labelled her- horse faced- her as being horse faced weeenww— her as being horse faced recently-the - her as being horse faced. recently-the-which recently in the press, which i we— recently in the press, which i twele— recently in the press, which i take-a-faced- recently in the press, which i take a faced person take as a horse faced person nweewe. — take as a horse faced person nweewe. w— take as a horse faced person myself. i take— take as a horse faced person myself. i take very- take as a horse faced person myself. cg myself. i take very personally and a former sex care worker. namaste. but i don't understand why all why he's declaring all this angst. yeah, it angst. just say, look, yeah, it happened and i that's you know, he gets away with everything. no, even if he does that, no, but even if he does that, i went— no, but even if he does that, i aenn-we— no, but even if he does that, i don't the democrats are don't think the democrats are going— don't think the democrats are going-let— don't think the democrats are gene-wet n— don't think the democrats are gene-wet n-w- don't think the democrats are going let it i mean, like going to let it go. i mean, like awn— going to let it go. i mean, like awwn eneee,— going to let it go. i mean, like alvin bragg, the— going to let it go. i mean, like alvin bragg, the he's been alvin bragg, the da, he's been ne-e— alvin bragg, the da, he's been nee—een- alvin bragg, the da, he's been nee—few e- alvin bragg, the da, he's been he's—for a long. he's wanting this for a long wene- — he's wanting this for a long wene- .te— he's wanting this for a long wene- .te w— he's wanting this for a long time.-is i mean,- he's wanting this for a long time. is i mean, i do feel time. this is i mean, i do feel we,— time. this is i mean, i do feel we, yew— time. this is i mean, i do feel like, you know,— time. this is i mean, i do feel like, you know, i'm- time. this is i mean, i do feel like, you know, i'm no fan of wene— like, you know, i'm no fan of wwnn ew— like, you know, i'm no fan of wwnn ew .— like, you know, i'm no fan of trump, but i do— like, you know, i'm no fan of trump, but i do feel this this fee— trump, but i do feel this this eeewe awe— trump, but i do feel this this feels like weaponizing the legal system —veen- system a little bit. yeah, it eewwe— system a little bit. yeah, it eewwe we. — system a little bit. yeah, it could be. .not- system a little bit. yeah, it could be. c; system a little bit. yeah, it- could be. .not sure. i mean, could be. i'm not sure. i mean, can we can we can i say that i think it happened or not? well, not sure. let's let's play it safe. yeah. okay. on- not sure. e yeah. okay. on that safe. yeah. okay. on that neewee— safe. yeah. okay. on that because there's- yeah. okay. on that because there's some litigious because there's some litigious wee-newe— because there's some litigious ee-ntetwe. — because there's some litigious be mistake. $1“in because there's some litigious be mistake. be a big mistake. maybe trump just said right now i have a stormy relationship with stormy. maybe have those. maybe it could have been those. yeah that. yeah it could have been that. but interested in the but i'm just interested in the way—to- but i'm just interested in the way—to ee- but i'm just interested in the. way _to go, because way this is going to go, because the way this is going to go, because tne—nee— way this is going to go, because the—has helped- way this is going to go, because the—has helped his. the thing is, it has helped his ewnen— the thing is, it has helped his opinion—putting. the thing is, it has helped his. opinion—putting him opinion polls. it's putting him in the page. that's all he in the front page. that's all he wants is to talked about. wants is to be talked about.

that's wants, you know, that's all he wants, you know, and getting what and he's getting exactly what he requires it's going requires to run. well it's going be interesting because later on, i've a former adviser i've got a former adviser to hillary clinton and also a former trump. going former adviser to trump. going to talking about to be on the show talking about we— to be on the show talking about tne—tnw— to be on the show talking about tnte—tnw te- to be on the show talking about this—that is goingi this and debating that is going to.interesting._ this and debating that is going to.interesting. i— this and debating that is going to interesting. i think to be interesting. i think nwewewe— to be interesting. i think- fireworks—think to be interesting. i think- fireworks_think she fireworks might fly. i think she wenee— fireworks might fly. i think she visited trump tower. visited the trump tower. i'm just saying that's an interesting euphemistic way of putting let's get another putting it. let's get another eweenen— putting it. let's get another eweenen new— putting it. let's get another question now from - it.“ 3 e let's get another question now from stephanie. wnewe— where is stephanie? hi, sweenene.— stephanie. wouldn't it female eeene— stephanie. wouldn't it female eneee—wenee sports stars make great brand ambassadors— sports stars make great brand ambassadors yeah ambassadors for nike. yeah we do say—i— ambassadors for nike. yeah we do ew—w weee- ambassadors for nike. yeah we do ew—w weee te- say nike, not nike. i used to say— say nike, not nike. i used to say-i— say nike, not nike. i used to ew-w wink- say nike, not nike. i used to say-i think it's. say night, but i think it's awe.— say night, but i think it's nike-they've- say night, but i think it's- nike.-they've they've say night, but i think it's nike. causedzy've they've say night, but i think it's nike. caused this they've say night, but i think it's nike. caused this big y've basically caused this big ewweee— basically caused this big outrage hired basically caused this big outragmulvaney, hired basically caused this big outragmulvaney, y'all hired basically caused this big outragmulvaney, y'all know, dylan mulvaney, who y'all know, wwwen— dylan mulvaney, who y'all know, wwwen nwwenew— dylan mulvaney, who y'all know, dylan mulvaney because he's got this kind of 30 days of girlhood wine. — this kind of 30 days of girlhood wine. -weeewee- this kind of 30 days of girlhood thing. -records his- thing. he sort of records his wenetnen— thing. he sort of records his transition into— thing. he sort of records his transition into girlhood by sort of transition into girlhood by sort ee-wew— transition into girlhood by sort of-verv eew— transition into girlhood by sort of-very ditzy and- transition into girlhood by sort of very ditzy and falling of being very ditzy and falling even-wet— of being very ditzy and falling over-that kind- of being very ditzy and falling over-that kind of. over a lot and that kind of wine. — over a lot and that kind of wine-wee— over a lot and that kind of- thing. .nike-basically thing. and nike have basically ewe,— thing. and nike have basically ewe-eew— thing. and nike have basically said,-sell our- thing. and nike have basically said, sell our women's said, can you sell our women's eeene— said, can you sell our women's enene wee— said, can you sell our women's eeene wee ene— said, can you sell our women's sports bras and leggings? and we— sports bras and leggings? and we te— sports bras and leggings? and we te wnw— sports bras and leggings? and this is what he's— sports bras and leggings? and this is what he's done. sports bras and leggings? and this is what he's done . let's this is what he's done. let's newe— this is what he's done. let's newe-w— this is what he's done. let's newe-w we- this is what he's done. let's have at the video .

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who showed students pictures of a certain prophet. i shan't name . okay. we can say prophet muhammad. that's allowed. i think we just can't show the pictures . i think the thing pictures. i think the thing about this i interviewed an about this was i interviewed an academic this a couple of academic about this a couple of months happened. it months ago when it happened. it was because was an interesting one because this an history this was an art history professor an image of professor showing an image of muhammad , an old persian artwork muhammad, an old persian artwork that was actually really significant in the history of islamic art to the extent that you couldn't really run a course on islamic art without showing this and of a sudden i this image and all of a sudden i think it was just i or 2 students said that, just one students said that, just one student they were student saying that they were offended and but say one offended and upset. but say one student instagram and it's student with instagram and it's off. that's yeah. yeah. but off. that's it. yeah. yeah. but i say don't the i would say don't take the course islamic you course in islamic art if you don't look islamic don't want to look at islamic art don't to university art and don't go to university called it's ham art and don't go to university call

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echtbatley grammar ened here at of course, this is, you know, a echtbatley grammar schoolare at of course, this is, you know, a echtbatley grammar school where the batley grammar school where you-toaster— the batley grammar school where you -teacher- about| you had a teacher teaching about the you had a teacher teaching about tho-ottom— the notion of offence and tooottng— the notion of offence andi teaching-charlie teaching about the charlie hebdo ottosts—tt-s- attacks. and of course, it's totovont— attacks. and of course, it's. relevant—images relevant to show the images toott — relevant to show the images death threats— relevant to show the images death threats still in hiding, i tttnt— death threats still in hiding, i tttnt-o— death threats still in hiding, i tttnt-o year— death threats still in hiding, i think a year later. yes. so think over a year later. yes. so it-consequences- think over a year later. yes. so it consequences are it is the consequences are tootty— it is the consequences are really-50- it is the consequences are really-so and- it is the consequences are really so and you it is the consequences are- really-so and you know, really serious. so and you know, you-vo— really serious. so and you know, you've come over from sweden. swoton— you've come over from sweden. swoton-somo— you've come over from sweden. sweden some issues relating sweden has some issues relating to ttts— sweden has some issues relating to ttts. vou— sweden has some issues relating to this. you-how- sweden has some issues relating to this. you-how do- sweden has some issues relating to this. you how do we to this. you know, how do we toot— to this. you know, how do we toot-t— to this. you know, how do we toot-tt 7— to this. you know, how do we toot-tt o oo— to this. you know, how do we deal-it ? do-sayj deal with it? do we just say too— deal with it? do we just say teem-— deal with it? do we just say free-no matter- deal with it? do we just say free-no matter do free speech no matter what? do west—y- free speech no matter what? do west—w toot.- free speech no matter what? do| we_say, look, your we stand up and say, look, your wow— we stand up and say, look, your your-w— we stand up and say, look, your wow-t you-o— we stand up and say, look, your your-, you're free? - we stand up and say, look, your your , you're free? �*" your religion, you're free? if eeryoe— your religion, you're free? if everyone .that, - your religion, you're free? if everyone .that, imean, i your religion, you're free? if everyone that, mean, we everyone did that, i mean, we had 89 with had the chance. 89 with salman rushdie. everyone everyone rushdie. if everyone everyone should the books should have printed the books and and the operas and the cartoons and the operas and the cartoons and the operas and everything. we and just everything. and now we sort everyone's now. sort of everyone's afraid now. and even richard and because even richard dawkins, interview dawkins, i saw an interview recently where he sort of i don't want to about this, don't want to talk about this, which you're which is very scary. you're right. of if more right. you're sort of if more people just came out and sort of said, do it at the said, we have to do it at the same because of course we same time, because of course we all freedom. all support religious freedom. people but people should be able to. but out— people should be able to. but tut—towe- people should be able to. buti tut—trove your but you don't get to have your rettgtorr— but you don't get to have your religion .fenced- but you don't get to have your religion fenced for mockery religion ring fenced for mockery or . religion ring fenced for mockery or— trot-s- religion ring fenced for mockery or— ttot-s rot- religion ring fenced for mockery or_. that's not howl or or criticism. that's not how it or or criticism. that's not how. tt—mutommot or or criticism. that's not how- it_muhammad is it works in the with muhammad is rte-s— it works in the with muhammad is te-s-. — it works in the with muhammad is te-s-. tes— it works in the with muhammad is he's-. he's illiterate- it works in the with muhammad is he's-. he's illiterate .- he's careful. he's illiterate. so we don't really know what he thinks. but also so it's something that just just saying muhammad freaks people out. it

does. it does. it's a terrible selling point for religion. you want to make it a bit more sparkly? well, kids. it's sparkly? well, it's kids. it's a ttttte—voul little bit patronising. you coutu— little bit patronising. you. could—muhammad could slim down muhammad if you ask goodness well, ask me, for goodness sake. well, i'm saying on it. i'm just saying i heavy on it. can't we get dylan mulvaney and tstorr — can't we get dylan mulvaney and islam -something?- can't we get dylan mulvaney and islam something? wouldn't islam to do something? wouldn't trut— islam to do something? wouldn't tut—turnt- islam to do something? wouldn't that—think you're. that be great? i think you're asking problems, right? that be great? i think you're askingmuhammad s, right? that be great? ”cl “rgmuhammad see,�*“.?’ that be great? ”tit “rgmuhammad see, we've dylan muhammad see, we've otreoty— dylan muhammad see, we've otpertestty. — dylan muhammad see, we've alperfectly. �*ft�*rit : it perfectly. we've solved it. have i just think lot of have we? i just think a lot of this very patronising to this is very patronising to muslims well. course, muslims as well. of course, this idea muslim people can't idea that muslim people can't take can't take take a joke or can't take criticism, true. criticism, that's not true. it's a minority of a very, very small minority of really people within really reactionary people within that the same really reactionary people within that every the same really reactionary people within that every religion. the same really reactionary people within that every religion. the sana with every religion. there's a small catholicism , small group within catholicism, believe me, there's a lot of catholics. it's very easy to say,— catholics. it's very easy to soy-trow — catholics. it's very easy to say, - know, they - tit? it's very easy to say, know, they will say, you know, they will get angry- —tote.- say, you know, they will get angry. take. yeah angry. they can't take. yeah tusteut— angry. they can't take. yeah instead-saying,- angry. they can't take. yeah instead saying, you know, instead of saying, you know, youre— instead of saying, you know, you-re—stouttl you're an adult, you should be otte— you're an adult, you should be ottelteterrt— you're an adult, you should be able defend religion and able to defend your religion and tote— able to defend your religion and take -absolutely.- take a joke. absolutely. okay. we've one we've got time for one more question. one's carl . question. this one's from carl. where is carl? hello so tell me more. tell me more . do we need more. tell me more. do we need a woke remake of greece? oh, you know , i came across this the know, i came across this the other night because i was looking through it. it's on paramount plus, and i saw it. and no, didn't paramount plus, and i saw it. and it no, didn't paramount plus, and i saw it.

and it. no, didn't paramount plus, and i saw it. and it. no, no, didn't paramount plus, and i saw it. and it. no, no, no, didn't paramount plus, and i saw it. and it. no, no, i saw didn't paramount plus, and i saw it. and it. no, no, i saw it.in't watch it. no, no, i saw it. i thought, i'm not watching that. i watched five instead, i watched scream five instead, which was appalling. the worst film seen. but the which was appalling. the worst film is, seen. but the which was appalling. the worst film is, so seen. but the which was appalling. the worst film is, so thisten. but the which was appalling. the worst film is, so this is. but the which was appalling. the worst film is, so this is greece |e which was appalling. the worst film is, so this is greece goes thing is, so this is greece goes greece rebooted. greece is effectively rebooted. it's sort of like back story it's sort of like a back story with but they've changed it so that more multicolour well, that it's more multicolour well, i of the characters is i think one of the characters is non—binary about non—binary. see, it's all about racial think this racial identity. i think this song about white song sing a song about white supremacy sounds exciting. i just say this stuff is just have to say this stuff is so boring . like. like, like it's so boring. like. like, like it's just tedious now. group identity thing. it was radical back in the 60s and 70s when you had like the wiz, you had an all black wizard of oz that was radical and different and exciting. of stuff now exciting. this kind of stuff now is tedious because is just tedious because everyone's i know. why everyone's doing it. i know. why don't just stop preaching? don't they just stop preaching? yeah, stop it. your yeah, they have to stop it. your stow. wry— yeah, they have to stop it. your own show. why do— yeah, they have to stop it. your own show. why do always have own show. why do you always have to remoet— own show. why do you always have to remake stuff— own show. why do you always have to remake stuff that— own show. why do you always have to remake stuff that we love and soitove— to remake stuff that we love and soitove-uew- to remake stuff that we love and so . have - new show. so we have to do this new show. i so we have to do this new show. t-t-we— so we have to do this new show. t-t-we-seeu- so we have to do this new show. i-i've-seen greece. j i have. i've never seen greece. tre— i have. i've never seen greece. two-ever— i have. i've never seen greece. two-ever seer— i have. i've never seen greece. i've .ever seen -two. i i've only ever seen greece two. i've only ever seen greece two. i haven't greece. what did i haven't seen greece. what did you—trots— i haven't seen greece. what did you—that's that's- you hear that? that's that's otteuswe. — you hear that? that's that's offensive. -of- you hear that? that's that's- offensive. -of horror. offensive. shudder of horror. how you offensive. shudder of horror. tow-you e— offensive. shudder of horror. tow-you e twe- offensive. shudder of horror. how-you ? i've seen- offensive. shudder of horror. how-you ? i've seen it.| how could you? i've seen it. wett— how could you? i've seen it. wet-trow— how could you? i've seen it. well, - know, - greece. well, you know, i love greece. i turt— well, you know, i love greece. i tttut tt-s— well, you know, i love greece. i think it's great.— well, you know, i love greece. i think it's great. olivia newton—john's a bit bit too newton—john's a bit a bit too ott— newton—john's a bit a bit too out-tut.— newton—john's a bit a bit too out-tut. out— newton—john's a bit a bit too old-but. but it's- newton—john's a bit a bit too old but. but it's fine old for it, but. but it's fine otterwtse. — old for it, but. but it's fine otherwise. supposed old for it, but. but it's fine- otherwise. -supposed to otherwise. but she supposed to

be otherwise. but she supposed to toe—tu— otherwise. but she supposed to toe—tr there.- otherwise. but she supposed to be_in there. she- otherwise. but she supposed toi be_in there. she was. otherwise. but she supposed to be she in there. she was. otherwise. but she supposed to be she was. in there. she was. otherwise. but she supposed to be she was. she here. she was. otherwise. but she supposed to be she was. she was. she was. otherwise. but she supposed to be she was. she was 721e was. otherwise. but she supposed to be she was. she was 72 years;. and she was. she was 72 years ott— and she was. she was 72 years out. out.— and she was. she was 72 years out. out. out— and she was. she was 72 years out. out. out .— and she was. she was 72 years old. but. but i saw— and she was. she was 72 years old. but. but i saw the prequel . tt-s— old. but. but i saw the prequel . tt-s o— old. but. but i saw the prequel . rt-s o prequelr_ old. but. but i saw the prequel . it's a prequel, isn't it? wot.— . it's a prequel, isn't it? yeah.-series.l . it's a prequel, isn't it?- yeah. -series. and yeah. 1954, the series. and i wototeo— yeah. i954, the series. and i wotsteo tre— yeah. 1954, the series. and i watched the clips today, about seven minutes— watched the clips today, about seven minutes of— watched the clips today, about seven minutes of clips online. i ttteo— seven minutes of clips online. i twee-rust— seven minutes of clips online. i ttteo-r-ust tt-s— seven minutes of clips online. i liked -just it's from - liked it. it's just it's from tre— liked it. it's just it's from the tt-s— liked it. it's just it's from the it's from _ liked it. it's just it's from the it's from the women's the tour— the it's from the women's the tour oots— the it's from the women's the four gals perspectives . and the four gals perspectives. and the muste— four gals perspectives. and the music looked _ four gals perspectives. and the music looked fun— four gals perspectives. and the music looked fun and there was stttt— music looked fun and there was stttt-rrote— music looked fun and there was still-male football- still the male football team. a lot still the male football team. a totlouys— still the male football team. a totlouys ore— still the male football team. a totlouys tu— still the male football team. a lot-guys are in it— still the male football team. a lot guys are in it it's fine. lot of guys are in it it's fine. rte— lot of guys are in it it's fine. the non—binary— lot of guys are in it it's fine. the non—binary person is just a tomboy.— the non—binary person is just a tomboy. there's— the non—binary person is just a tomboy. there's tomboy tomboy. there's always a tomboy in tomboy. there's always a tomboy trr o— tomboy. there's always a tomboy trr o musteot— tomboy. there's always a tomboy in a musical. hello,— tomboy. there's always a tomboy in a musical. hello, west side story.— in a musical. hello, west side story-ot— in a musical. hello, west side story. -of course.- story. so, yeah, of course. i turt— story. so, yeah, of course. i trunk-ute- story. so, yeah, of course. i think-likelcouldl think it looks like it could be. arro— think it looks like it could be. and .american. _ think it looks like it could be.| and .american. -got and it's american. they've got a lot and it's american. they've got a tot-rtey-re— and it's american. they've got a lot they're throwing lot of money. they're throwing cost—toot- cash at it. that's a good example— cash at it. that's a good example-the- cash at it. that's a good. example-the-side example with the west side story. — example with the west side story-retro— example with the west side story,-redid it,- example with the west side story, redid it, spielberg story, they redid it, spielberg retro— story, they redid it, spielberg retro rt— story, they redid it, spielberg retro tt out— story, they redid it, spielberg redid it and -the. redid it and put made the otorooter— character of anybody's a trans otorooter. — character of anybody's a trans character. .that- character of anybody's a trans character. : character. and that defeats the purpose. point is that purpose. the whole point is that the the won't let the men in the jets won't let her she's a girl. her in because she's a girl. that's fundamental to that's kind of fundamental to that. spielberg was that. no, the spielberg film was garbage, this looks like it garbage, but this looks like it could a joy. and the could be a joy. and all the music's new.— could be a joy. and all the music's new. they're- f: and all the music's new. they're not resysttrro— recycling old music, but the songs—vou- recycling old music, but the. songs—you know, songs are too long. you know, you— songs are too long. you know, you step up. need you better step up. i need a man, woman, it never. man, woman, lesbian. it never. yeah, it took a while. you're right. i've actually renamed a dance called jives matter. dance called black jives matter. oh tobias, i'm going to put a

stop to this. i'm oh tobias, i'm going to put a stop to this . i'm sorry. stop to this. i'm sorry. i trwtteo— stop to this. i'm sorry. i invited him.— stop to this. i'm sorry. i invited him. okay.- i'm sorry. i invited him. okay. still to come on tree— invited him. okay. still to come on tree speech— invited him. okay. still to come on free speech nation, the touottty— on free speech nation, the equality secretary is going to otortty— equality secretary is going to stortty tre— equality secretary is going to clarify the meaning of the word sex clarify the meaning of the word tu— clarify the meaning of the word trr tre— clarify the meaning of the word sex in the 2010— clarify the meaning of the word sex in the 2010 equality act. spestttsotty— sex in the 2010 equality act. specifically to _ sex in the 2010 equality act. specifically to refer to biological _ specifically to refer to biological sex. is there any otter— biological sex. is there any other kind?— biological sex. is there any other kind? see— biological sex. is there any other kind? see you in a few moments— other kind? see you in a few

welcome back to free speech wotton— welcome back to free speech wotton wttn— welcome back to free speech nation with me— welcome back to free speech nation with me andrew doyle the tnntster— nation with me andrew doyle the tnntster tor— nation with me andrew doyle the minister for women and touottttes— minister for women and equalities, kemi badenoch is oonstoertno— equalities, kemi badenoch is considering clarifying the eouottty— considering clarifying the eouotttyoot— considering clarifying the equality act to allow organisations to bar trans women trom— organisations to bar trans women trom smote— organisations to bar trans women trom smote se— organisations to bar trans women from single sex spaces and vts— from single sex spaces and evnts .— from single sex spaces and events , including hospital wards events, including hospital wards and events, including hospital wards ono spons— events, including hospital wards ono spons. tne— events, including hospital wards and sports. the equalities wotonooo— and sports. the equalities watchdog said— and sports. the equalities watchdog said this definition wouto— watchdog said this definition wouto mote— watchdog said this definition would make it— watchdog said this definition would make it possible to evotuoe— would make it possible to exclude trans— would make it possible to exclude trans from would make it possible to- exclude trans-from same exclude trans people from same sex spaces, even they hold a sex spaces, even if they hold a gender— sex spaces, even if they hold a gender recognition certificate. mere-s— gender recognition certificate. tnere-s—tne- gender recognition certificate. . there's—the backlash. there's been quite the backlash. but there's been quite the backlash. nut-me— there's been quite the backlash. but-meldiscuss- there's been quite the backlash.

but me discuss this but joining me to discuss this now—ot- now is the co—founder of tnouonttut— now is the co—founder of thoughtful therapies , james thoughtful therapies, james tsses— thoughtful therapies, james esses-founder- thoughtful therapies, james esses founder of women's esses and founder of women's tronts— esses and founder of women's rights network. _ esses and founder of women's rights network. heather binning . neotner— rights network. heather binning . neotner on— rights network. heather binning . heather can i— rights network. heather binning . heather can i come to you first— . heather can i come to you ttrst otout— . heather can i come to you first about the _ . heather can i come to you first about the equality act zero. — first about the equality act zero. wnton — first about the equality act 2010, which has certain protested— 2010, which has certain protected characteristics. one of protected characteristics. one ottnose— protected characteristics. one of those protected characteristics is , of course, characteristics is, of course, ano— characteristics is, of course, ant .— characteristics is, of course, sex. and i would- characteristics is, of course, sex. and i would have thought tnot— sex. and i would have thought tnot eveonery— sex. and i would have thought that everyone would have assumed youre— that everyone would have assumed you-re totttno— that everyone would have assumed you're talking about— that everyone would have assumed you're talking about biological nut— you're talking about biological sex. but-activists- you're talking about biological sex. but activists are sex. but now activists are soytno— saying it's never really meant mot.— saying it's never really meant tnot. wnot— saying it's never really meant that. what do— saying it's never really meant that. what do you make of that? wett— that. what do you make of that? net tt-s— that. what do you make of that? net tt-s t-m— that. what do you make of that? well it's i'm sorry. _ that. what do you make of that? well it's i'm sorry. that's what i make of it. when act was i make of it. when the act was first brought in and it was clear to everybody that that's what sex meant and that's why there was no need for any further depher depher notion of what the meanings were . it was what the meanings were. it was assumed by everyone in society that it meant biological sex. and then since then, of course, we've had the growth of gender ideology and the idea that from some people that men can become women and therefore should be allowed the should be covered

under the protected characteristic of sex as women now , does that mean, though, now, does that mean, though, that if you accept that sort of revised definition of sex, that gender ideologues want us to accept that effectively, you can't have female only spaces by law? no, you can't . you are law? no, you can't. you are allowed at the moment the act allows you to have sex specific spaces where there is a need. it doesn't say you must have them, but it allows you to have them. if a business or a service provider has a need to provide single sex services like in care, for instance. yes removing thatis care, for instance. yes removing that is it's vital. my, my, my own mother had a young man turn out to give her intimate care one day. fortunately, i was there and was able to turn away. that was just it wasn't that was just a man. it wasn't pretending anything other pretending to be anything other than so so the idea of than a man. so so the idea of self id combined with anybody can be then it gives no meaning to sex specific spaces. so james, can i bring- stitx �*" ti. so james, can i bring you in on

tntse— james, can i bring you in on this? because— james, can i bring you in on this? because there has been for a this? because there has been for owntte— this? because there has been for owntte tnts— this? because there has been for a while this legal— this? because there has been for a while this legal fiction that wnen— a while this legal fiction that wnen oeopte— a while this legal fiction that when people have a gender resoonttton— when people have a gender recognition certificate, they - ore—tnouon are treated in the law as though tney— are treated in the law as though tney-oonostte- are treated in the law as though they-opposite sex,- are treated in the law as though they opposite sex, even they were the opposite sex, even tnouon— they were the opposite sex, eveni though—seriously though nobody was ever seriously suggesttno— though nobody was ever seriously suggesttno tnot— though nobody was ever seriously suggesting that they've actually ononoeo— suggesting that they've actually ononoeo se— suggesting that they've actually changed sex because human beings son-t— changed sex because human beings cont—so— changed sex because human beings cont—so wnot- changed sex because human beings can't—so what this- can't change sex. so what this oomottootes— can't change sex. so what this oomottootes-o- can't change sex. so what this complicates a little complicates matters a little bit— complicates matters a little ttt. toesn-t— complicates matters a little bit, doesn't it?— complicates matters a little bit, doesn't it? because where toes— does that leave those individuals?- does that leave those individuals? fiction individuals? well, legal fiction is individuals? well, legal fiction ts-oorrest— individuals? well, legal fiction is-correct word. - individuals? well, legal fiction is correct word. fltitt. is the correct word. you know, we've got the recognition we've got the gender recognition act, allows people act, which allows people to legally change their sex for the purposes of legal documents, etcetera. but the difficulty we've got is that man made laws vary from country to country depending on the government of the day. but what laws of science, laws of nature ? there science, laws of nature? there are universal sex is binary. sex is immutable. you cannot change sex. and as a result of this, we need to protect same sex spaces , same sex rights. but actually what we've seen and heather touched upon, this is a dilution , an erosion of these. and we've seen this culminating in scotland where they attempted to push through this dreadful legislation which someone on legislation in which someone on a whim decide that they're a whim can decide that they're the other but i think it's

the other sex. but i think it's crucial to understand that as part of these proposed changes, we will not be taking away safeguards from trans people. there's a protected characteristic of gender reassignment it nobody's proposing to do anything with that. so it means that if somebody is discriminated against or harassed or victimised because have victimised because they have reassigned their gender, they will protected . so the will still be protected. so the types criticism levelled at types of criticism levelled at these proposals is completely unfounded. that's a really tmportont— unfounded. that's a really important point,- .. “git: that's a really important point, though, isn't it, important point, though, isn't tt. neotnere— important point, though, isn't it, heather? because you know, t-ve— it, heather? because you know, he spoken— it, heather? because you know, me spoken to— it, heather? because you know, i've spoken to people. i've had oeonte— i've spoken to people. i've had people—mer- i've spoken to people. i've had people—me, trans. people online tell me, trans osttvtsts— people online tell me, trans osttvtsts .— people online tell me, trans activists , not— people online tell me, trans activists , not just trans activists, not just trans people soytno— activists, not just trans people soytno tnot— activists, not just trans people soytno tnot ott— activists, not just trans people saying that all they want is the nont— saying that all they want is the rtontluse— saying that all they want is the nontluse tne— saying that all they want is the right use the toilet right to use the toilet facilities— right to use the toilet facilities that they feel most stosety— facilities that they feel most closely—their- facilities that they feel most. closely—their sense facilities that they feel most. cl(who _their sense facilities that they feel most cl(who they their sense facilities that they feel most cl(who they are their sense facilities that they feel most cl(who they are and heir sense facilities that they feel most cl(who they are and heir ttheyt of who they are and that they move —so- of who they are and that they move—solmonyi have been doing so for many yeors— have been doing so for many yeors-ott— have been doing so for many years-all-kind- have been doing so for many years-all-kind of. years before all the kind of oetotes— years before all the kind of debates stirred— years before all the kind of debates stirred up. do they not nove— debates stirred up. do they not novelootnt— debates stirred up. do they not novelnotnt e— debates stirred up. do they not have lpoint ? well,- debates stirred up. do they not have point ? well, i take have a point? well, i take issue, first— have a point? well, i take issue, first of— have a point? well, i take issue, first of all, with the toeo — issue, first of all, with the toeo ono — issue, first of all, with the idea and this— issue, first of all, with the idea and this is- issue, first of all, with the idea and this is one of the fundamental— idea and this is one of the fundamental things about this . fundamental things about this. ttrs— fundamental things about this. ttts prottem— fundamental things about this. this problem is— fundamental things about this. this problem is when- fundamental things about this. this problem is when we're told that they've been doing this for years , if you're in a toilet as years, if you're in a toilet as a female in a toilet and a man comes in, no matter they're

comes in, no matter how they're dressed, you are not going to challenge that man. women don't women, go through their women, they go through their lives with their keys between their fingers, watching over their fingers, watching over their . what's walking on their fingers, watching over theiside . what's walking on their fingers, watching over theiside of . what's walking on their fingers, watching over theiside of the hat's walking on their fingers, watching over theiside of the street/alking on their fingers, watching over theiside of the street withig on their fingers, watching over theiside of the street with then the side of the street with the light on because it's inbuilt in us we are at risk , we are us that we are at risk, we are at danger. and so you're not going to you're not going to start or a fight start an argument or a fight with who ideally with somebody who is ideally a man and tell them no, unless you've got a good backing there. and it's fundamental to the problem here. and i think so many men don't understand that that's something women have that's something that women have suffered from through the ages. and having safe sex space is such a relief if you if you are feeling a tall, vulnerable it's to have somewhere to go and there are women that are far less vulnerable than i am. and i'm fighting to in hospitals, for instance , in in care homes for instance, in in care homes and in prisons and we're talking about this. and that's that's a fabulous thing this time last yeanl fabulous thing this time last year, i wouldn't have believed that we could be talking about

this and this would have moved forward. so it's not just a ouestton— : so it's not just a question safeguarding. it's question of safeguarding. it's otso— question of safeguarding. it's otso o— question of safeguarding. it's also a question— question of safeguarding. it's also a question dignity. also a question of dignity. atsotute— also a question of dignity. absolute difficult- also a question of dignity. absolute difficult because with the issue, a lot of the safeguarding issue, a lot of people don't understand. i think they-assumption- people don't understand. i think they-assumption that. they make the assumption that onyone—to- they make the assumption that anyone to preserve anyone who wants to preserve onty— anyone who wants to preserve women's only spaces somehow women's only spaces is somehow suggesttno— women's only spaces is somehow suggesttno-trons— women's only spaces is somehow suggesting trans people are suggesting that trans people are more inherently— suggesting that trans people are more inherently inclined to oreootory—nutl more inherently inclined to predatory but of predatory behaviour. but of course that's— predatory behaviour. but of course that's not what people are course that's not what people soytno— course that's not what people soytno .— course that's not what people are saying . they're saying that are saying. they're saying that are saying. they're saying that o—oeoote- are saying. they're saying that o—oeoote mtontl a minority of people might evntott— a minority of people might exploit loophole gender, exploit the loophole of gender, sett— exploit the loophole of gender, sett tn— exploit the loophole of gender, sett to tn— exploit the loophole of gender, self id in order— exploit the loophole of gender, self id in order to— exploit the loophole of gender, self id in order to access, you know— self id in order to access, you know .— self id in order to access, you know . we— self id in order to access, you know , we could— self id in order to access, you know , we could talk about, you know, we could talk about, you toot— know, we could talk about, you toot your— know, we could talk about, you lock your front— know, we could talk about, you lock your front door of your mouse— lock your front door of your mouse or— lock your front door of your house or not— lock your front door of your house or not because everybody oosstno— house or not because everybody posstno ts— house or not because everybody posstno ts tomo— house or not because everybody passing is going to try and neon— passing is going to try and treot tn— passing is going to try and break in and— passing is going to try and break in and you. : break in and you. but somebody passing might. and it's that concept . us as a woman, not concept. us as a woman, not every not not every man is bad. not every man is a rapist. i know particularly not every trans woman is going to attack me, but there are a small minority and we know also . are minority and we know also. are you talking about the gender recognition bill in scotland? and when that was stopped and lo and the next day,

and behold, the next day, the pictures are full, papers pictures are full, the papers are picture of a are full of a picture of a gentleman who was hiding as a as a woman to get into the women's estate. this is isla bryson. yes , yes, yes. double rapist, yes, yes, yes. double rapist, toutte— yes, yes, yes. double rapist, double rapist. _ yes, yes, yes. double rapist, double rapist. '“t: yes, yes, yes. double rapist, double rapist. t: “tit”tit yes, yes, yes. double rapist, double rapist. t: “ti”ri yes, yes, yes. double rapist, double rapist. ' “t: ”tit .it”ti double rapist. and here we are, all over the papers. so? so this does happen. it's not that . does happen. it's not that. it's. it's a figment of my imagination and it's not going to happen. and the public outcry last year, there was a debate in the house of lords with a lot of members of the house of lords standing that there standing up saying that there was with having was nothing wrong with having female identifying men in women's prison, the women's estate and then the public outcry when this was made evident in the front page of the newspapers was quite astounding. but have a human rights but now we have a human rights tooy—soytno- but now we have a human rights tooy—soytno i body stepping in and saying, tnts—to— body stepping in and saying, tnts—to go.- body stepping in and saying, this—to go. and. body stepping in and saying, this to go. and that this is the way to go. and that toes—tn- this is the way to go. and that toes—tn tne- does signify a shift in the putts— does signify a shift in the public debate— does signify a shift in the public debate , doesn't it? but public debate, doesn't it? but wnot-s— public debate, doesn't it? but what's happened there, james, i mean,-proposals_ what's happened there, james, i mean, proposals the mean, the proposals by the eouottty— mean, the proposals by thej equality—rights equality and human rights commission— equality and human rights commission incredibly commission are incredibly measured and— commission are incredibly measured and reasonable. trey-ve— measured and reasonable. tney-ve-sotu- measured and reasonable. they've-said let'sl they've not even said let's change they've said, change the law. they've said, let's about potentially let's talk about potentially changing here are the changing the law. here are the benefits. here the let's

benefits. here are the let's have let's have have a conversation. let's have a conversation that's subjected to the to proper scrutiny. but the backlash from i'm going to call them trans ideologues has been crazy . baroness falkner, the crazy. baroness falkner, the chairwoman of the hrc, has been called a and a bigot. i've come across trans individuals online claiming that if this legislation is changed, they won't be allowed to go to the toilet . i mean, utterly farcical toilet. i mean, utterly farcical and outright lies. but how do we oeot— and outright lies. but how do we oeot wttn— and outright lies. but how do we oeot wttn now— and outright lies. but how do we deal with how do— and outright lies. but how do we deal with how do we— rit“t: g“. . but how do we deal with how do we have a oetotee— deal with how do we have a debate? how— deal with how do we have a debate? how do— deal with how do we have a debate? how do we begin this conversation— debate? how do we begin this conversation when there are senotn— conversation when there are certain contingents and i'm not you— certain contingents and i'm not you mow.— certain contingents and i'm not you mow-tomo— certain contingents and i'm not you know, going to say you know, i'm going to say a smott— you know, i'm going to say a small minority— you know, i'm going to say a small minority of— you know, i'm going to say a small minority of trans oottvtsts — small minority of trans activists, more militant activists, the more militant stoe—tronsl activists, the more militant- side _trans people side of that, most trans people wouton-t— side of that, most trans people wouldn't-this- side of that, most trans people wouldn't this bracket wouldn't fall into this bracket r_willin9- wouldn't fall into this bracket r_willin9 to- , but who are willing to misrepresent- , but who are willing to misrepresent reality , who are misrepresent reality, who are ossrtteo—onsi misrepresent reality, who are. ascribed _ons to ascribed false quotation ons to baroness falkner— ascribed false quotation ons to baroness falkner to call her a, for baroness falkner to call her a, tor ooooness— baroness falkner to call her a, for goodness sake. _ baroness falkner to call her a, for goodness sake. how would you begin— for goodness sake. how would you teotnloet— for goodness sake. how would you even begin get around a table even begin to get around a table wttn— even begin to get around a table wttn peoote— even begin to get around a table with people like— even begin to get around a table with people like that ? with people like that? i think the unfortunate truth of the matter , andrew, is that have matter, andrew, is that we have to think about balancing rights with one another. but actually these individuals are not for conversation. they're for not equality. you know, we look at

the act, there's list equality. you know, we look at thtprotected act, there's list equality. you know, we look at thtprotected characteristics.ist equality. you know, we look at thtprotected characteristics .;t of protected characteristics. they seem to only want to put themselves and, know, themselves first and, you know, screw everyone else because they don't to care much about don't seem to care much about the defence and the, you know, the defence and the, you know, the rights that people of the same sex deserve . but equally, same sex deserve. but equally, what religion belief ? what about religion and belief? i mean, i other people have i mean, i and other people have been for daring to been cancelled for daring to speak out and say believe speak out and say we believe that binary and immutable that sex is binary and immutable and men women and men are men and women are women. have us women. they're happy to have us thrown bus as as thrown under the bus as well, as long their long as it suits their ideological purposes. and that's a very interesting point, isn't it, heather? because, you know, for it, heather? because, you know, tor—wno-oi for instance, people who hold a oeeoty— for instance, people who hold a deeply—viewrl deeply religious point of view,- some muslim women, for instance, onnot— some muslim women, for instance, sonnot—wttn- some muslim women, for instance, oonnot—wttn wttn- cannot be in a space with with peoote— cannot be in a space with with people wno— cannot be in a space with with people wno ore— cannot be in a space with with people who are biologically cannot be in a space with with pe0|undressing biologically cannot be in a space with with pe0|undressing .)iologically cannot be in a space with with pe0|undressing . and gically cannot be in a space with with pe0|undressing . and yetlly cannot be in a space with with pe0|undressing . and yet these and undressing. and yet these are activists— and undressing. and yet these are activists who _ and undressing. and yet these are activists who are so tnteresteo— are activists who are so interested in- are activists who are so interested in group identity. non-t— interested in group identity. non-t seem— interested in group identity. don't seem to— interested in group identity. don't seem to care, don't seem to ore— don't seem to care, don't seem to ono— don't seem to care, don't seem to ono nor— don't seem to care, don't seem to care, and nor people who for wnom — to care, and nor people who for wnom tnottsn— to care, and nor people who for whom english is— to care, and nor people who for whom english is not their first tonouooe. — whom english is not their first tonouooe. anu— whom english is not their first language. ”tit whom english is not their first language. t: i: language. and they're forced to think about what does cervix have or mean. am i one of the of that group? if they ask that group? if they even ask that group? if they even ask that ? yes. and the nonsense of that? yes. and the nonsense of the results of the 2021 census

that's come out showing just how one one or a couple of questions , badly framed questions as has skewed all results from it with with the end result there's a huge amount of data that is just has no value because people didn't understand the question. people didn't understand the question. yeah. and that's yeah . otsotutety— question. yeah. and that's yeah , absolutely. sorry.— question. yeah. and that's yeah , absolutely. sorry. _ question. yeah. and that's yeah , absolutely. sorry. i- c tit" yeah. and that's yeah , absolutely. sorry. �*ftt�*ti , absolutely. sorry. i was. we are talking we're talking about it now. it's got a lot more sunlight on it and that gives me great hope. and the sex matters petition . to for the defined sex petition. to for the defined sex in the equality act, which reached 100,000 signatures, means that there will be a westminster hall debate on it. and that's i look forward to that. it's a long way off changing parliament or keir starmer's view that 1% of women or no positive .01. 0.1% of women have a penis. i think he's moved on— women have a penis. i think he's moved on tnot. — women have a penis. i think he's moved on that. i— women have a penis. i think he's moved on that. i think— women have a penis. i think he's moved on that. i think it- t“ itti“ i think he's moved on that. i think it was 1. wow— moved on that. i think it was 1. wow tt-s— moved on that. i think it was 1. wow tt-s on. — moved on that. i think it was 1. now it's 0.1. so— moved on that. i think it was 1. now it's 0.1. so he's moving in tne— now it's 0.1. so he's moving in me nont— now it's 0.1. so he's moving in the right direction.— now it's 0.1. so he's moving in the right direction. there but yes— the right direction. there but yes tnot— the right direction. there but yes tnot ts— the right direction. there but yes tnot ts o— the right direction. there but yes that is a very good point tnot— yes that is a very good point tnot tt— yes that is a very good point tnot tt no— yes that is a very good point that it now because of the sex ttotters— that it now because of the sex

matters petition— that it now because of the sex matters petition ,_ that it now because of the sex matters petition , there will be matters petition, there will be tnts—te- this debate, there will be a oetote— this debate, there will be a oetote ono— this debate, there will be a debate and so— this debate, there will be a debate and so you are that's wnot— debate and so you are that's wnot-teen— debate and so you are that's what-been-forl debate and so you are that's. what-been-for all what we've been calling for all the what we've been calling for all tne-nut— what we've been calling for all tne-nut tne— what we've been calling for all the - but the tactics- what we've been calling for all the-but the tactics thati the time. but the tactics that have used been they've have been used have been they've been tactics to been been creeping tactics to shut people down, make them afraid to speak out. yes and women's rights, rights, rights . women's rights, rights, rights. nato one of the things that we do is encourage people, everybody, to be safer. we've got your back. you can speak out and beginning to happen . and it is beginning to happen. there are employee networks in the service starting in the civil service starting in all of different sectors all sorts of different sectors in the city, for instance, and it's encouraging people to so many people are not bought into this ideology, but they are afraid to speak, which is why politicians can stand up and say, nobody ever talks about it. keir starmer this week said, we don't talk about it around the dinner table or at the doorstep or the or in the pub or the or in the or in the pub or the cafe . that's because people are cafe. that's because people are scared. that's the tactics that are being used. no debate. therefore we'll shut you up . therefore we'll shut you up. we'll get you know, you'll lose your job, you'll lose we'll get you know, you'll lose yourjob, you'll lose your your job, you'll lose your family. we don't have much time, james. finally, that

james. but finally, on that room— james. but finally, on that ootnt—rotsesl james. but finally, on that- point_raises, which point that heather raises, which i a point that heather raises, which t-o very— point that heather raises, which i-a very important- i think is a very important point— i think is a very important ootnt. ts— i think is a very important ootnt. ts tne— i think is a very important point, is the intimidation, the teor—monyi fear you've had many, many ottoots— fear you've had many, many attacks because— fear you've had many, many attacks because of your stance on-toeotooy— attacks because of your stance on-toeotooy .- attacks because of your stance on ideology . what advice on gender ideology. what advice can on gender ideology. what advice son-owe— on gender ideology. what advice son-otveloeoote- on gender ideology. what advice can - give . people - iti can you give to people when it comes intimidatory comes to these intimidatory toottos— comes to these intimidatory tosttos e — comes to these intimidatory tosttos e .— comes to these intimidatory tactics ? i mean,- comes to these intimidatory tactics ? t“ . tactics? i mean, look, it's horrible. you know, a jewish horrible. you know, as a jewish man, a. man, i'm being called a. i'm being threats all being sent death threats and all the that's the rest of it. that's unfortunately norm unfortunately the norm these days. would say is you days. what i would say is you have out. i mean, these have to speak out. i mean, these issues are far too important. we're about speech, we're talking about free speech, women's rights. most women's rights. and most importantly me , child importantly for me, child safeguarding, nothing else can come before that. and so i beg people to take the hit. actually, if needs be, they'll, people to take the hit. acttknow,f needs be, they'll, people to take the hit. actt know, they'll be, they'll, people to take the hit. actt know, they'll have hey'll, people to take the hit. actt know, they'll have support . you know, they'll have support. i and others are here to support people. the people. but, you know, the stakes high to stay stakes are far too high to stay silent. sps , heather silent. well, james sps, heather binning, thank both so much silent. well, james sps, heather binjoiningiank both so much silent. well, james sps, heather binjoining me both so much silent. well, james sps, heather binjoining me today. reallynuch forjoining me today. really appreciate it . so forjoining me today. really appreciate it. so coming up on free speech nation , as labour free speech nation, as labour tries to replicate joe biden's green agenda, are they leaving the working classes behind ? the working classes behind? stay tuned .

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so joining me to discuss idiodn-o— so joining me to discuss labour's green proposals is vioidnd— labour's green proposals is visiting professor at southbank iinivonoiiy, — visiting professor at southbank university, james. james, wooonnoi— university, james. james, wooonnoi io— university, james. james, welcome to the show . so let's welcome to the show. so let's idi— welcome to the show. so let's idii diod— welcome to the show. so let's talk about this. _ welcome to the show. so let's talk about this. ed miliband, snddon— talk about this. ed miliband, snddon doi— talk about this. ed miliband, shadow net zero secretary is now ioiionind— shadow net zero secretary is now ioiionind in— shadow net zero secretary is now following in the— shadow net zero secretary is now following in the lead of the nidon— following in the lead of the biden administration. do you inini— biden administration. do you inini indi— biden administration. do you think that this— biden administration. do you think that this is something indi— think that this is something no no— think that this is something that he feels— think that this is something that he feels passionately about ninooii— that he feels passionately about ninooii on— that he feels passionately about ninooii on io— that he feels passionately about himself or is he— that he feels passionately about himself or is he just following the himself or is he just following ino nond— himself or is he just following ino inond o — himself or is he just following the trend .7 well,— himself or is he just following the trend .7 well, i- himself or is he just following the trend .7 viii“ the trend? well, i think we should never underestimate the influence the democratic party influence the democratic party in the states has on the labour party in britain and it's significant that miliband is called the net zero tsar. yes, it used to be that we had an energy department. then we had energy department. then we had energy and climate change. now it's net zero. yes. so this is all of a piece with the fact that the labour party policy on net zero is no more gas by 2030. if you look at what they've got to say, the word gas is not not there. it's fundamentally unrealistic. gas is going to be with us for a long time to come

. so you touch on something indo— . so you touch on something inono, onion— . so you touch on something there, which is— so you touch on something there, which is this idea of net zero potentially— there, which is this idea of net zero potentially being a utopian nond— zero potentially being a utopian nonid vioion— zero potentially being a utopian world vision is— zero potentially being a utopian world vision is it— zero potentially being a utopian world vision is it feasible or no? — world vision is it feasible or not? unless— world vision is it feasible or not? unless you - world vision is it feasible or not? unless you totally reorganise society and you know, apparently we don't have the time to do that either because it's also urgent. the kind of upheaval that would be necessary would would be enormous. you would would be enormous. you would have to go to completely without gas , you could never without gas, you could never fall back on coal . you would fall back on coal. you would have to solve intermittency and you couldn't really do that at the moment with nuclear power alone. yes. so they just don't seem to be adjusting to realities. and the other striking thing about what miliband has been saying is that apparently we are behind in britain , america, in europe. britain, america, in europe. this just isn't true . we are this just isn't true. we are introducing the most draconian measures for boilers for what they hope to be insulation for , they hope to be insulation for, for getting rid of petrol and diesel cars much faster than

brussels or washington . but then brussels or washington. but then do you take on board— brussels or washington. but then do you take on board the- " “dig?" but then do you take on board the view of oiindio— do you take on board the view of climate activists,— do you take on board the view of climate activists, groups such as extinction _ climate activists, groups such as extinction rebellion and inodidio— as extinction rebellion and insulate britain that unless we act ,_ insulate britain that unless we doi , dnooio— insulate britain that unless we act , unless we— insulate britain that unless we act , unless we take these act, unless we take these dndodo— act, unless we take these drastic measures to achieve net dnd— drastic measures to achieve net zero and quickly,— drastic measures to achieve net zero and quickly, we are heading oooonddiiy— zero and quickly, we are heading essentially for— zero and quickly, we are heading essentially for armageddon ? essentially for armageddon? iioii— essentially for armageddon? iioii i— essentially for armageddon? well, i think— essentially for armageddon? well, i think this says more diod— well, i think this says more about their— well, i think this says more about their lurid imagination . about their lurid imagination. and— about their lurid imagination. and roden— about their lurid imagination. and roger hallam's_ about their lurid imagination. and roger hallam's lurid- and roger hallam's lurid imagination than than the facts. now, you know, i'm not only male pale and stale, but i actually believe in climate change. i do believe in climate change. i do believe that human beings have industrialised the world enough to have made a difference to the temperature of the planet. that's one thing to believe that we've got to throw out rationality, throw out fossil fuels altogether and really hope that a program of heat pumps and home insulation can overnight speed the end of the apocalypse and that we can do all of this at no cost to our lifestyles and no cost to the exchequer. the

costs are something that, you know , miliband doesn't want to know, miliband doesn't want to talk about , despite the know, miliband doesn't want to talk about, despite the name of the bill he's emulating, which is the inflation reduction act. it's not it's going to increase inflation. that's where electric cars are going. they're more and more expensive, and their prices are not coming down. now this might be my prejudice speaking, but whenever i see climate activists on tv talking about this, i can't help but notice they very plummy voices. they have very plummy voices. they be very, very they also tend to be very, very non.— they also tend to be very, very non-ovon— they also tend to be very, very rich. even gloomier than rich. mine even gloomier than yodno— rich. mine even gloomier than yodo. inoy— rich. mine even gloomier than yours. they tend— rich. mine even gloomier than yours. they tend to have double idnnoiiod— yours. they tend to have double barrelled names— yours. they tend to have double barrelled names and you know, and— barrelled names and you know, and in— barrelled names and you know, and in noi— barrelled names and you know, and i'm not nothing wrong with doing— and i'm not nothing wrong with doing-idi— and i'm not nothing wrong with doing-idi-idoi- and i'm not nothing wrong with being but just saying, being posh, but i'm just saying, is being posh, but i'm just saying, io-ino— being posh, but i'm just saying, io-ino odoo— being posh, but i'm just saying, is-the case that- being posh, but i'm just saying, is the case that perhaps is it not the case that perhaps ino— is it not the case that perhaps no poopio— is it not the case that perhaps no people wno— is it not the case that perhaps the people who most up in the people who are most up in diod— the people who are most up in arms about this— the people who are most up in arms about this are the ones indi— arms about this are the ones ind-ioni— arms about this are the ones that-least affect?- arms about this are the ones that least affect? that it will least affect? oddi— that it will least affect? vioii. i— that it will least affect? well, i-that's- that it will least affect? i well, i-that's-you well, i think that's true. you know, the cheapest know, the point is the cheapest electric that you can get in electric car that you can get in britain today is made by citroen. it's £8,000. and it's basically almost a flintstone machine. you know, you can go 20, 40 miles with it. the next cheapest is around 22,000. now,

you know who among us double barrelled or not, has £22,000 just to save the planet and make an exhibition of themselves of their virtuous consumption . so their virtuous consumption. so we don't have that kind of money. most people white van man doesn't have that kind of money. the side of it, andrew, is the other side of it, andrew, is that if you look at the number of parts in an electric car, the threat of mass redundancies in the car industry when we've already got a car industry in deep trouble in britain , it's deep trouble in britain, it's really quite something. there are fewer parts, less maintenance, less repair, fewer jobs. maintenance, less repair, fewer jobs . so miliband can promise jobs. so miliband can promise many, many jobs , hundreds of many, many jobs, hundreds of thousands. but if we go all the way with electric cars and it's quite a big if at the moment because sales are not zooming ahead , they're still 16% of the ahead, they're still 16% of the showroom sales are electric. that's the same figure as it was last march . but just suppose last march. but just suppose they go ahead , then there's they go ahead, then there's going to be a lot of expense involved and a whole lot of people are going to be frozen out of mobility altogether . a

out of mobility altogether. a lot of the climate activists, ino— lot of the climate activists, the statistics— lot of the climate activists, the statistics that quote the statistics that they quote or the statistics that they quote on-nnoioodono— the statistics that they quote or projections they or the projections that they nnoddoo — or the projections that they produce alarmist . or the projections that they- produce-alarmist . and produce are very alarmist. and inoy— produce are very alarmist. and inoy do— produce are very alarmist. and inoy do odddooi— produce are very alarmist. and they do suggest that we are oonpioioiy— they do suggest that we are completely-out- they do suggest that we are- completely-outltime. completely running out of time. now:— completely running out of time. noni-odd— completely running out of time. now, said explicitly now, you've said explicitly yoo— you're not denying climate mongo— you're not denying climate changer-you're. you're not denying climate- change,-you're saying change, but what you're saying is change, but what you're saying io inono— change, but what you're saying is there might— change, but what you're saying is there might be— change, but what you're saying is there might be other ways to dddnooo— is there might be other ways to dddnooo ii.— is there might be other ways to address it.-you- is there might be other ways to address it. you any address it. have you got any inoddnio— address it. have you got any thoughts about— address it. have you got any thoughts about we might address it. have you got any thoughtiitabout we might address it. have you got any lhoughl�*ilibiil's we might address it. have you got any lhoughl�*ilibiil's not we might address it. have you got any lhoughl�*ilibiil's not this,night address it if it's not this, inono— address it if it's not this, inono ono— address it if it's not this, there are plenty other ways. there are plenty of other ways. dddoni— there are plenty of other ways. nuclear—important. nuclear has a very important place to occupy . everybody place to occupy. everybody sneers at carbon capture and storage and they say, oh, well, it's never really been successfully tried. well everything has not successfully tried until you've successfully tried until you've successfully tried it. that's what invention and innovation is all about. if you look at miliband's call for you look at miliband's call for you know, tripling solar power, doubung you know, tripling solar power, doubling onshore, wind quadrupling offshore wind and so on, all of these are intermittent britain, not known for tonnes of solar energy coming its way. for tonnes of solar energy coming its way . what we need is coming its way. what we need is something reliable and hydro has a role to play. marine and tidal, as labour says, may have a role to play. there's no single bullet but to completely

abjure fossil fuels just isn't realistic. unless you don't want anybody to move around britain again . and what about the again. and what about the ooooiiiiiiy— again. and what about the possibility of— gigi? " and what about the possibility of developing ioonnoiogy— possibility of developing technology that we're not we're not technology that we're not we're noi oi— technology that we're not we're not aware of at— technology that we're not we're not aware of at the moment? you technology that we're not we're not avisn'tyf at the moment? you technology that we're not we're not avisn't that the moment? you technology that we're not we're not avisn't that somethingtt? you technology that we're not we're not avisn't that something thatyu know, isn't that something that ndndniind— humankind has always achieved? oh, humankind has always achieved? on—innnossiniy- oh, no. that's impossibly optimistic know, optimistic, andrew. you know, you're utopian . i mean, you're complete utopian. i mean, when we ever come with when did we ever come up with anything wheel and i or 2 anything at the wheel and i or 2 other things, you know, no , of other things, you know, no, of course, to be optimistic course, we have to be optimistic because although innovation is something that corporations are much less interested in today, they're more interested in share pnces they're more interested in share prices and financial ization, they're not really going forward with new technologies except sporadically, but we have to hope that our ingenuity , hope that our ingenuity, especially around fusion power again, people are so cynical about this. they say, oh, it's always 30 years away. if you look at fusion power right now, more like ten or 15 or 20 years away, there's a lot to do. it's away, there's a lot to do. it's a question of resources as well. if we pour all our money into net zero rubber band technology , we're certainly not going to

have enough to spare for fusion and we don't have much time, but just finally, i just want to ask your because your opinion on this because it feels though feels very much as though the conservatives are conservatives and labour are pretty much from the pretty much singing from the same comes to same hymn sheet when it comes to net much room net zero, there isn't much room or scope there for the debates that probably be that we probably need to be having. well having. is that right? well well, right. you well, that's quite right. you know, look, well, that's quite right. you know, behind look, well, that's quite right. you know,behind washington look, well, that's quite right. you know, behind washington and ok, we're behind washington and brussels, he forgets is it brussels, what he forgets is it was boris johnson who says no more petrol or diesel cars after 2030, no more hybrids after 2035. that's much earlier than brussels or washington. so you know, we're going at it gung but we've got very little idea where we're going and what's going to replace what. and again, the inflation prospect is something that , you know, is completely that, you know, is completely underestimated . people can't underestimated. people can't afford this stuff. they can't afford this stuff. they can't afford heat pumps. they can't afford heat pumps. they can't afford electric cars. what the government is really saying is tighten your belts. don't expect to drive, don't expect to keep warm, and most recently, don't expect to have water on a free,

free basis . you know, we're free basis. you know, we're going to ration water now. that's really an achievement for british capitalism . james british capitalism. james watson, thank— british capitalism. james watson, thank you - c i137 james watson, thank you so much for ioinind— watson, thank you so much for ioinind no— watson, thank you so much for joining me tonight. really oppnooido— joining me tonight. really appreciate it— joining me tonight. really appreciate it . cc appreciate it. thank you. still to come on free speech nation king charles has come out in support of research into the royal households. historic links to royal households. historic links io oiovony— royal households. historic links do oidvony. nui— royal households. historic links to slavery. but should- : historic links to slavery. but should the royal ioniiy— to slavery. but should the royal ioniiy io— to slavery. but should the royal family be paying— to slavery. but should the royal family be paying reparations ? family be paying reparations? soo— family be paying reparations? soo yon— family be paying reparations? soo you in— family be paying reparations? soo you in d— family be paying reparations? see you in a few— family be paying reparations? see you in a few minutes.

welcome back to free speech dodon— welcome back to free speech dodon niin— welcome back to free speech nation with me,— welcome back to free speech nation with me, andrew doyle . nation with me, andrew doyle. ino— nation with me, andrew doyle. ino noydi— nation with me, andrew doyle. the royal household is to open up the royal household is to open in ido— the royal household is to open up its archives— the royal household is to open up its archives to— the royal household is to open up its archives to a three year nod-ood— up its archives to a three year project, investigate the royal ioniiy-o— project, investigate the royal family's connections to slavery , onion— family's connections to slavery , nnion ddio— family's connections to slavery , which date back— family's connections to slavery , which date back to the 17th ooninny— , which date back to the 17th oonidny. kind— , which date back to the 17th century. king charles has not idiod— century. king charles has not idiod odi—

century. king charles has not ruled out paying— century. king charles has not ruled out paying reparations , ruled out paying reparations, but ruled out paying reparations, iii noydi— ruled out paying reparations, but royal sources said the king ndidnd— but royal sources said the king ndidnd io— but royal sources said the king was waiting to see the results of do — was waiting to see the results of the research _ was waiting to see the results of the research before deciding on nio— of the research before deciding on his response.— of the research before deciding on his response. so joining me to on his response. so joining me do dioodoo— on his response. so joining me to discuss this— on his response. so joining me to discuss this is— on his response. so joining me to discuss this is former bbc noydi— to discuss this is former bbc royal correspondent michael cole and noydi— royal correspondent michael cole and royal broadcaster and nioionidn— and royal broadcaster and historian ralph rafe heydel—mankoo . thank you both heydel—mankoo. thank you both for heydel—mankoo. thank you both ion ioinind— heydel—mankoo. thank you both ion ioinind no— heydel—mankoo. thank you both for joining me tonight. heydel—mankoo. thank you both for joining me tonight . michael forjoining me tonight. michael odo— forjoining me tonight. michael coio, in— forjoining me tonight. michael coio, in going— forjoining me tonight. michael cole, i'm going to— forjoining me tonight. michael cole, i'm going to come to you find.— cole, i'm going to come to you find-io— cole, i'm going to come to you find-is d— cole, i'm going to come to you first.-is a new— cole, i'm going to come to you first. is a new study first. this is a new study ind-o— first. this is a new study that's being— first. this is a new study that's being opened up. we've dindyo—indl always known, of course, that ino—iiio- always known, of course, that ino—iiio dii- the royal family, like all aristocrats— the royal family, like all aristocrats for— the royal family, like all aristocrats for many centuries ago, — aristocrats for many centuries ado-onion— aristocrats for many centuries ago, .either have- aristocrats for many centuries ago, either have ties the ago, did either have ties to the oidvo— ago, did either have ties to the slave-certainly- slave trade or certainly odpponod— slave trade or certainly odpponod ii.- slave trade or certainly supported it. do you think that inono— supported it. do you think that inono io— supported it. do you think that there is something that the iooydi— there is something that the royal-should- there is something that the royal should be royal family should be addressing— royal family should be addressing well addressing at this time? well i as a journalist,— addressing at this time? well i as a journalist, i'm fully in idon— as a journalist, i'm fully in idon oi— as a journalist, i'm fully in favour of disclosure. ' i: favour of disclosure. and this is investigation is going to be done by the university of manchester. as we all know, iidnonooion— manchester. as we all know, manchester was— manchester. as we all know, manchester was the - sniff as we all know, manchester was the centre of and indood— manchester was the centre of and indood ino— manchester was the centre of and indood do in— manchester was the centre of and indeed the, uh, the— manchester was the centre of and indeed the, uh, the mill owners , ionodonino,— indeed the, uh, the mill owners , lancashire, who— indeed the, uh, the mill owners , lancashire, who are mainly wnido— , lancashire, who are mainly wnido dnd— , lancashire, who are mainly whigs and liberals, supported the whigs and liberals, supported ino oidvo— whigs and liberals, supported the slave owning confederate oidioo. — the slave owning confederate

oidioo. so— the slave owning confederate states. so during— the slave owning confederate states. so during the american civi— states. so during the american civii and— states. so during the american civii and in— states. so during the american civil and i'm quite sure that researchers— civil and i'm quite sure that researchers will— civil and i'm quite sure that researchers will give full onodii— researchers will give full onodii io — researchers will give full credit to the _ researchers will give full credit to the fact that the abomination— credit to the fact that the abomination of slavery was first nooodniood— abomination of slavery was first nooogniood in— abomination of slavery was first recognised in this— abomination of slavery was first recognised in this country , and recognised in this country, and we recognised in this country, and no idnnod— recognised in this country, and no idnnod ii— recognised in this country, and we banned it in— recognised in this country, and we banned it in 1807. 'i: recognised in this country, and we banned it in 1807. ' i: we banned it in 1807. and after inni— we banned it in 1807. and after inni ino— we banned it in 1807. and after that the royal navy suppressed the slave trade, intercepting 1600 slave ships , freeing 1600 slave ships, freeing 103,000 slaves, and in the process . one 1577 sailors lost process. one 1577 sailors lost their lives . so we acted on their lives. so we acted on inon. — their lives. so we acted on inon. so— their lives. so we acted on them. so when— their lives. so we acted on them. so when we- ” c so we acted on them. so when we come to the ddooiion— them. so when we come to the ddooiion oi— them. so when we come to the question of families involvement, researchers may iind— involvement, researchers may iind indi— involvement, researchers may find that there— involvement, researchers may find that there is— involvement, researchers may find that there is a connection or find that there is a connection on inoy— find that there is a connection on inoy inoy— find that there is a connection or they may find— find that there is a connection or they may find there is no oonnooiion— or they may find there is no connection at— or they may find there is no connection at all, and that is nonin— connection at all, and that is nonin knowing— connection at all, and that is worth knowing when it comes to noodndiiono— worth knowing when it comes to noodndiiono .— worth knowing when it comes to noodndiiono, i— worth knowing when it comes to reparations , i don't think there reparations, i don't think there is reparations, i don't think there io d— reparations, i don't think there io d ion— reparations, i don't think there is a case for reparations nooddoo— is a case for reparations because how- is a case for reparations because how do you how do you repay?— because how do you how do you nopdyi non— because how do you how do you nopdyi now do— because how do you how do you repay? how do you— because how do you how do you repay? how do you huffpost say, iiiondoi— repay? how do you huffpost say, iiiondoi ioi— repay? how do you huffpost say, michael, let me— repay? how do you huffpost say,

michael, let me take that . let michael, let me take that. let no— michael, let me take that. let no idio— michael, let me take that. let no do indi— michael, let me take that. let me take that to— michael, let me take that. let me take that to ralph. that that poniodidn— me take that to ralph. that that particular point. _ me take that to ralph. that that particular point. ralph michael is particular point. ralph michael io ndiind— particular point. ralph michael io ndiind ino— particular point. ralph michael is making the point there , of is making the point there, of indi— is making the point there, of course, that, you— is making the point there, of course, that, you know, part of ino— course, that, you know, part of do iniiion — course, that, you know, part of the british involvement in the transatlantic— the british involvement in the transatlantic slave trade was inindind — transatlantic slave trade was inindind ii— transatlantic slave trade was inindind ii io— transatlantic slave trade was bringing it to an— transatlantic slave trade was bringing it to an end . and then bringing it to an end. and then non— bringing it to an end. and then non-no— bringing it to an end. and then non-no non— bringing it to an end. and then non-no do— bringing it to an end. and then how we now go about how do we now go about quantifying— how do we now go about quantifying how money quantifying how much money is onod— quantifying how much money is onod dnd— quantifying how much money is onod dnd io— quantifying how much money is owed and to whom ? viii“ owed and to whom? well, that's precisely right. i mean , as precisely right. i mean, as michael has said, we've more than repaid our debt. you know , than repaid our debt. you know, we spent 40% of our annual gdp in freeing the slaves . and a in freeing the slaves. and a colossal amount, a unique act of magnanimity and generosity unparalleled in history. uh, people have to ask after thousands of years of slavery actually being morally acceptable, mean the bible doesn't condemn slavery. why was britain actually the country , britain actually the country, the first country to have this christian evangelical movement that viewed all humans as being as being evil and equal rather, but on the issue of reparations, it's to whom do you pay reparations? it's a very good question because actually it's

an uncomfortable truth. if we were having this discussion in 1807 or 1833, i absolutely would support reparations because reparations are an issue of torture law, which means you put the person who's been damaged back into the state they were before they were damaged. but we're now talking about 7 or 8 generations later and the great, great, great, great, great grandchildren of the slaves actually have a far better quality of life in the caribbean , for example, they would , for example, than they would have had their ancestors have had had their ancestors never africa . that's an never left africa. that's an uncomfortable because if uncomfortable truth because if you look gdp and perhaps in you look at gdp and perhaps in in barbados, where it's $17,000 a year in benin, were most slaves came from it's about $1,300 a year. so the people living today as abhorrent as slavery was for their ancestors, have a lifestyle that's around ten times higher life expectancy is about 15 years higher in the canbbean is about 15 years higher in the caribbean than it is on the west african states of benin. so by every quantifiable measure, their lives are actually far more comfortable. some caribbean states are middle income

countries that are comparable to portugal, which was actually the worst of all of the slave trading companies. so if are trading companies. so if you are going actually put money going to actually put money somewhere, would think somewhere, you would think perhaps to west perhaps we should go to west africa rather than the caribbean. it the caribbean. and yet it is the caricom the for the body caricom is the name for the body in caribbean calling in the caribbean that's calling for think for reparations. but i think it's a it's a very tough it's a very it's a very tough argument to make on their behalf. michael it not behalf. michael cole, is it not the though, that this is the case, though, that this is actually step actually an important step for the royal family just the royal family to make, just simply pr at a time simply in terms of pr at a time when people sort of when some people are sort of suggesting the suggesting or even doubting the existence of the monarchy, saying that we should move to a republic, doesn't suggest republic, doesn't it suggest something on of something on a sort of willingness on his part to sort of acknowledge their privilege and to do something about it? absolutely . and he is deeply absolutely. and he is deeply affected by it. he thinks it's an indelible stain on our history, which is absolutely true. and by the way, i mean , true. and by the way, i mean, there's nothing intrinsically more modern about a republic. when the republic's became hopelessly corrupt in ancient rome, they replaced them and they replaced them with with a monarchy. so let's talk about

that properly. but, you know, the interesting thing about this reparations thing, okay , 1807 we reparations thing, okay, 1807 we banned the slave trade in 1807 on my maternal side of my family , they were indentured farm labourers working backbreaking . labourers working backbreaking. labour six days a week. now, do i go back to lord lothian , who i go back to lord lothian, who owns the estate where they worked and say, lord lothian, because there is a lord lothian today, could you give me in fact, i've met him . could you fact, i've met him. could you give me all this money? because my ancestors were actually worked almost to death on your land in 1807. i mean, it's nonsense vehicle going back through history and trying to put right the wrongs of the past, all we can do is acknowledge them, which i think we should do. and move on. and if we can help in some sort of way to put that all into context , well, that's a good thing. journalistic inquiry is very, very rarely wasted, and it's usually very valuable . well, usually very valuable. well, finally, ralph, just- usually very valuable. well, finally, ralph, just on- c. well,

finally, ralph, just on that, i ido— finally, ralph, just on that, i mean, it's absolutely true that di— mean, it's absolutely true that we're all descended from a combination— we're all descended from a combination of— we're all descended from a combination of slavers and ooooio— combination of slavers and wow! wno— combination of slavers and people who were enslaved . but people who were enslaved. but you— people who were enslaved. but you don-i— people who were enslaved. but you don-i no— people who were enslaved. but you don't we can't— people who were enslaved. but you don't we can't say that for ino— you don't we can't say that for do iooydi— you don't we can't say that for the royal family,— you don't we can't say that for the royal family, it's quite oiodn— the royal family, it's quite clear where _ the royal family, it's quite clear where they have come from and— clear where they have come from and-nodd— clear where they have come from and _would-beenl and that there would have been oono—inol some complicity there in the oidvo— some complicity there in the oidvo-don-i- some complicity there in the slave - don't they i some complicity there in the slave don't they owe slave trade. so don't they owe poonio— slave trade. so don't they owe people something? no, i don't inini— people something? no, i don't inini — people something? no, i don't think so. well,— people something? no, i don't think so. viii“ �*" think so. well, firstly, we have to say that the recent news stories are regarding william the third from whom the king doesn't descend at all. we have to remember that this is a completely different dynasty to the that were at the heart completely different dynasty to thiwhat that were at the heart completely different dynasty to thiwhat we're were at the heart completely different dynasty to thiwhat we're talking the heart completely different dynasty to thiwhat we're talking the he but of what we're talking about. but the monarchy has already dealt with know, in 1840, with this, you know, in 1840, prince albert , queen victoria's prince albert, queen victoria's husband, that slavery was husband, said that slavery was atrocious , that it had desolated atrocious, that it had desolated africa and was a black stain on europe . the apology has been europe. the apology has been made. britain and the monarchy have nothing more to apologise for. and i think, you know, if the king really should think twice about apologising or opening the door to reparations because apologies and reparations will never placate or satisfy those who make the loudest noise on all of this.

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nation . nation. welcome back to free speech nation. with me, andrew doyle . nation. with me, andrew doyle. ioi-o— nation. with me, andrew doyle. ioi-o doi— nation. with me, andrew doyle. on do sono— nation. with me, andrew doyle. let's get some more— on? it" with me, andrew doyle. let's get some more questions inon— let's get some more questions inon on— let's get some more questions from our lovely— let's get some more questions from our lovely studio audience nono— from our lovely studio audience nono. iinoi— from our lovely studio audience here. first question coming from andy— here. first question coming from andy .— here. first question coming from andy . wnono-o— here. first question coming from andy . where's andy? there andy. where's andy? oh, there woo-andy— andy. where's andy? oh, there woo-andy .— andy. where's andy? oh, there was andy . jonathan. oh, was an andy. jonathan. oh, iondindn. — was an andy. jonathan. oh, jonathan. whatever you want jonathan. andy whatever you want to jonathan. andy whatever you want do no— jonathan. andy whatever you want do no ooiiod— jonathan. andy whatever you want to be called. okay,— jonathan. andy whatever you want to be called. okay, okay, fine . to be called. okay, okay, fine. andy— to be called. okay, okay, fine. andy-iydon. — to be called. okay, okay, fine. andy-iydon. so- to be called. okay, okay, fine. 'i: i::::i so should to be called. okay, okay, fine. ' i: i::::i so should the andy john lydon. so should the iooydi— andy john lydon. so should the iioydi ioniiy— andy john lydon. so should the iioydi ioniiy io— ' i: i::::i so should the royal family be investigated doing— royal family be investigated doing in— royal family be investigated using iio onn— royal family be investigated using its own links to the slave inddoi — using its own links to the slave inddoi so— using its own links to the slave trade? so this— using its own links to the slave trade? so this comes- using its own links to the slave trade? f trade? so this comes off the back of the discussion i had towards of the first towards the end of the first houn towards the end of the first hour, is about this hour, which is about this independent study which is exploring the relationship between the british monarchy and the 17th and the slave trade in the 17th and 18th centuries. tobias should they be doing that? should prince be, you know, prince charles be, you know, paying prince charles be, you know, paying money to people who paying out money to people who are descended from slaves? yeah, why not? they've got a bit of nnony — why not? they've got a bit of nnony _havel why not? they've got a bit of. nnony —nnvo doi money. i mean, they have got quite lot. yeah. he has to get quite a lot. yeah. he has to get a quite a lot. yeah. he has to get d noiiy— quite a lot. yeah. he has to get d noiiy oo— quite a lot. yeah. he has to get a new hobby, so i'm— i: yeah. he has to get a new hobby, so i'm not sure inio— a new hobby, so i'm not sure this-reparations.- this thing of reparations. i noon-doi- — this thing of reparations. i noon-doi- i- this thing of reparations. i mean, got. i mean, modern mean, we got. i mean, modern oidvony— mean, we got. i mean, modern oidyony noni— mean, we got. i mean, modern slavery right mean, why mean, we got. i mean, modern sla\d0' right mean, why mean, we got. i mean, modern sla\do something mean, why mean, we got. i mean, modern sla\do something about n, why mean, we got. i mean, modern sla\do something about n,mean, not do something about i mean,

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they death. if they beat women to death. if they beat women to death. if they don't wear a scarf in the correct now they're correct way. and now they're using technology doddie to crack down, have down, you're going to have cameras they're going cameras. and they're also going to cameras. and they're also going io—io— cameras. and they're also going io—io nonn- cameras. and they're also going to_to warn them.- to text women to warn them. ind-o.— to text women to warn them. inoi-o. noon— to text women to warn them. that's. yeah, that's right. noon. — that's. yeah, that's right. noon. -iind- that's. yeah, that's right. yeah.-kind of- yeah. so it's kind of a progressive-a- yeah. so it's kind of a progressive a way, right? progressive in a way, right? iooonoo— progressive in a way, right? iooonoo-io- progressive in a way, right?- because-to-them because they used to beat them up because they used to beat them nn—inon-doii up and now, you know, you get a ioni— up and now, you know, you get a ioxi. isayi“9n_ up and now, you know, you get a text. .saying, yeah,— up and now, you know, you get a text. saying, yeah, angry text. so saying, yeah, angry onoy-i— text. so saying, yeah, angry- onoii—oooni. emoji, please wear your scarf. noon—io— emoji, please wear your scarf. yeah—is serious.- emoji, please wear your scarf. yeah—is serious. i. yeah but, but it is serious. i mean yeah. this is a mean this is. yeah. this is a let's, be honest about it. let's, let's be honest about it. this a really backward idea this is a really backward idea that women need to be policed in this way in terms of what they wear, course. but you know, wear, of course. but you know, all feminists , ten all the western feminists, ten years you said hijabs and years ago if you said hijabs and headscarves are oppressive . no, headscarves are oppressive. no, it's their choice. it's lovely,- it's their choice. it's lovely, ido— it's their choice. it's lovely, it's cultural,— it's their choice. it's lovely, it's cultural, it's— it's their choice. it's lovely, it's cultural, it's fantastic . it's cultural, it's fantastic. and— it's cultural, it's fantastic. and non— it's cultural, it's fantastic. and now easy— it's cultural, it's fantastic. and now easy to say when beaten inonion— and now easy to say when beaten inonion oon— and now easy to say when beaten iranian women themselves throw inon — iranian women themselves throw inon oii— iranian women themselves throw them off. everyone's yeah, inoi-o— them off. everyone's yeah, inoi-o nnoi— them off. everyone's yeah, that's what we— them off. everyone's yeah, that's what we said. fantastic all that's what we said. fantastic nii oiond— that's what we said. fantastic all along with— that's what we said. fantastic all along with your sister here. niin— all along with your sister here. niin ny— all along with your sister here. with my hummus— all along with your sister here. with my hummus with you. i saw inoi— with my hummus with you. i saw no niin— with my hummus with you. i saw that with swedish— with my hummus with you. i saw that with swedish female politicians— that with swedish female politicians wearing the veil nnon— politicians wearing the veil when-visited- politicians wearing the veil when visited certain when they visited certain countries. _ countries. every swedish politician. yeah. countries. every swedish porespect yeah.- countries. every swedish po respect the th. - countries. every swedish po respect the laws- countries. icy : respect the laws and then. to respect the laws and then. noon— to respect the laws and then. noon-inon— to respect the laws and then. yeah,-them off.-do yeah, check them off. what do you— yeah, check them off. what do you nondi— yeah, check them off. what do you want?-know, - yeah, check them off. what do you want? know, backbone, you want? you know, no backbone, noinind.— you want? you know, no backbone, noinin i.— you want? you know, no backbone, noinini noon— you want? you know, no backbone, nothini mean, the— you want? you know, no backbone, nothini mean, the courage of thing. i mean, the courage of inooo— thing. i mean, the courage of inooo oon—

thing. i mean, the courage of those women who throwing those women who are throwing the veil those women who are throwing the noii-innnind— those women who are throwing the veil burning dancing in those women who are throwing the veilstreets. ning dancing in those women who are throwing the veilstreets. ing dancing in those women who are throwing the veilstreets. “cg dancing in those women who are throwing the veilstreets. “cg lancing in those women who are throwing the veilstreets. “c; it?" 924] in those women who are throwing the veilstreets. “c; it?" git; cain: the streets. they can get killed for do. but some for that. and they do. but some of_professional- of them were professional dancers,_workj of them were professional- dancers,_work out dancers, so they got work out of it, dancers, so they got work out of n, —inoi-o- dancers, so they got work out of n,_i..ns doodl dancers, so they got work out of it,.i-that's good.. dancers, so they got work out of it, i think that's good. dancers, so they got work out of it, i think if that's good. dancers, so they got work out of it, i think if you're 's good. yeah. i think if you're a oonodion— yeah. i think if you're a comedian in— yeah. i think if you're a comedian in iran and you're doing— comedian in iran and you're ooiiino oii— comedian in iran and you're getting all that— comedian in iran and you're getting all that video footage, why— getting all that video footage, nny—inoi- getting all that video footage, nny—inoi i- getting all that video footage, why—just i don't. why not, right? just i don't inini— why not, right? just i don't think-regime- why not, right? just i don't think regime there think the regime there particularly- think the regime there particularly likes comics oiinon. — particularly likes comics either. have- particularly likes comics either. : particularly likes comics- either. have-done a gig in either. have you done a gig in iran? iwould either. have you done a gig in iran? i would love to. i bet i insi— iran? i would love to. i bet i no noi— iran? i would love to. i bet i no ioi inoy— iran? i would love to. i bet i just bet they throw- ”3�*7 i would love to. i bet i just bet they throw cash at you. ini— just bet they throw cash at you. iii-inon— just bet they throw cash at you. but-knowlcouple- just bet they throw cash at you. but know couple of but also, i know a couple of inonion— but also, i know a couple of iranian comedians in iranian comedians who live in iondon—nooi london. yeah, they could use a ioooi. — london. yeah, they could use a career boost. maybe they should go career boost. maybe they should 90—i— career boost. maybe they should do—i inni- go back. scott, i think you should there your should go there and do your normal set about homosexuality. that well. that will go down really well. normal about. so i'm so normal set about. so i'm so patronisi"9n_ normal set about. so i'm so patronising, but— normal set about. so i'm so patronising, but and- \i so i'm so patronising, but and funny. but you inon— patronising, but and funny. but you know, i— patronising, but and funny. but you know, i think— patronising, but and funny. but you know, i think that they'd be a you know, i think that they'd be o dnooi— you know, i think that they'd be a great audience.— you know, i think that they'd be a great audience. i— you know, i think that they'd be a great audience. i think that all a great audience. i think that oii inio— a great audience. i think that oii inio io— a great audience. i think that all this is government. / all this is government. all yeah it's all this is government. all yeah ids ino— all this is government. all yeah it's the regime it's not the it's the regime it's not the it's the regime it's not the it's the people. of course it's not the people. of course it's not the people. of course it love to go it is. yeah. i'd love to go ioon. — it is. yeah. i'd love to go back. never— it is. yeah. i'd love to go back. never go- c yeah. i'd love to go back. \iiiiliiiil” 913 f it is. yeah. i'd love to go back. never go back. have you been there? only in my only. my dnoon — been there? only in my only. my dnoonliodo— been there? only in my only. my dream .let's-on- been there? only in my only. my dream .let's-on to - been there? only in my only. my dream let's on to another dream. let's move on to another question where question from alan. where is alan? should we be allowed alan? hello should we be allowed to sing along at the theatre? well , now scott has a background well, now scott has a background in mono— well, now scott has a background in musical theatre. _ well, now scott has a background

in musical theatre. $37 well, now scott has a background in musical theatre. 337 'i: in musical theatre. right? and obviously , and i know that when obviously, and i know that when we watch when we've been to see musicals together, you've been itching to sing along, but you know how behave in the know how to behave in the theatre. you what this theatre. i'll tell you what this is though. this is this is about, though. this is this story broke week the story broke this week about the bodyguard, performance bodyguard, this performance on friday the friday of the musical, the bodyguard theatre friday of the musical, the bo manchester. theatre friday of the musical, the bo manchester. and theatre friday of the musical, the bo manchester. and it's theatre in manchester. and it's apparently descended into a riot. well, they called it a mini riot because some theatre goers were singing over the final number. and it was that woman from the pussycat dolls who was an incredible singing voice. and of course, you've paid and then all paid to hear her. and then all these people in the stalls are singing then a riot singing along. and then a riot broke out because they wouldn't get rid audience members. get rid of the audience members. i great whitney i mean, it's that great whitney houston's love you houston's i will always love you and beautiful thank you very and a beautiful thank you very much. and classic training. and the much. and classic training. and no oon— much. and classic training. and the woman leapt_ much. and classic training. and the woman leapt out— it and classic training. and the woman leapt out of bxit and classic training. and the woman leapt out of her bx.it and classic training. and the woman leapt out of her chair in ino— the woman leapt out of her chair in no ioioony— the woman leapt out of her chair in the balcony and— the woman leapt out of her chair in the balcony and she started singing— in the balcony and she started oinoino nooiiy— in the balcony and she started singing really loud and they in the balcony and she started singiniriotilly loud and they in the balcony and she started singiniriot police d and they in the balcony and she started singiniriot police thatd they in the balcony and she started singiniriot police that came and called riot police that came and dnoiiod— called riot police that came and onoiiod non— called riot police that came and grabbed her and— called riot police that came and grabbed her and they almost dnonnod— grabbed her and they almost dnonnod-onon— grabbed her and they almost dropped over the balcony. dropped her over the balcony. sno— dropped her over the balcony. sno oinooi— dropped her over the balcony. she almost-and- dropped her over the balcony. she almost and they she almost fell. and then they nniiod—nooiiy- she almost fell. and then they pulled—really ton pulled her. it's just really two noonio—inol pulled her. it's just really two. people._the show people. but it stopped the show and people. but it stopped the show ond—didn-i- and then the show didn't ooniinno— and then the show didn't continue. of continue. but you know, a lot of inonio— continue. but you know, a lot of noonio. inoy— continue. but you know, a lot of pebble, they 90— continue. but you know, a lot of people, they go see that stuff

iooonoo— people, they go see that stuff because-want— people, they go see that stuff because want join in in because they want to join in in non—nobody- because they want to join in in n little-probably,- because they want to join in in n little bit. probably, because they want to join in in n little bit. yeah. probably, because they want to join in in n little bit. yeah. butiably, because they want to join in in n little bit. yeah. butiab new a little bit. yeah. but in new nonn— a little bit. yeah. but in new ionn—ioon- a little bit. yeah. but in new. york,_been getting york, people have been getting up york, people have been getting din—ino- up on stage during the intermission- up on stage during the- intermission-their intermission to charge their nnono. — phone. not really, because inono-o— phone. not really, because there's painted— phone. not really, because there's painted the there's painted drugs on the ooi. — there's painted drugs on the ooi. sonny— there's painted drugs on the set. sorry right.— there's painted drugs on the set. sorry right. yeah. they set. sorry right. yeah. and they inini— set. sorry right. yeah. and they inini-iooio— set. sorry right. yeah. and they think-looks real. - think the plug looks real. i nood— think the plug looks real. i noodlonondo— think the plug looks real. i need charge my. yeah. need to charge my. yeah. annonioono— need to charge my. yeah. americans are- need to charge my. yeah. americans are ridiculous. yeah, need to charge my. yeah. amethatis are ridiculous. yeah, need to charge my. yeah. amethat happened ulous. yeah, need to charge my. yeah. amethat happened in)us. yeah, need to charge my. yeah. amethat happened in manchester, but that happened in manchester, so i but that happened in manchester, so i inini— but that happened in manchester, so i think theatregoers theatre, inoy— so i think theatregoers theatre, inoy noid — so i think theatregoers theatre, inoy noid ioo.— so i think theatregoers theatre, they paid £68. they want to jump up - — they paid £68. they want to jump on . nod.— they paid £68. they want to jump on . noii. innin— they paid £68. they want to jump up . well, that's the— they paid £68. they want to jump up. well, that's the point though, like, though, isn't it? like, you know, start know, when those people start interrupting along, interrupting or singing along, it's fair . on the other it's not fair. on the other audience member this is a live performance. it's audience member this is a live performance . it's a thin line performance. it's a thin line ioinoon— performance. it's a thin line ioinoon o— performance. it's a thin line between a-and- performance. it's a thin line between a-and a- performance. it's a thin line between a.and a sing. b it's a thin line between a and a sing along. b it's a thin line betweyeah. and a sing along. b it's a thin line betweyeah. thisnd a sing along. b it's a thin line betweyeah. this is, a sing along. b it's a thin line betweyeah. this is, thisig along. b it's a thin line betweyeah. this is, this is along. yeah, yeah. this is, this is nnoi— yeah, yeah. this is, this is what-after- yeah, yeah. this is, this is. what-after.years what you get after 20 years of oonyono — what you get after 20 years of everyone -x factor. . everyone can sing x factor. inonyono-o— everyone can sing x factor. inonyono-o o— everyone can sing x factor. everyone's a star. so people iooi— everyone's a star. so people iooi inoy— everyone's a star. so people feel they can- everyone's a star. so people feel they can join and they've ioon — feel they can join and they've ioon inoy-no— feel they can join and they've been they've been doing sound of nnoio— music sing alongs for two dooodoo— music sing alongs for two decades rocky decades now and people are rocky noon— decades now and people are rocky ionnon—innin- decades now and people are rocky horror—that's it. . horror show. yeah, that's it. noon. — horror show. yeah, that's it. noon. -noy— horror show. yeah, that's it. noon. -noy ion- horror show. yeah, that's it. yeah. -pay for that,. horror show. yeah, that's it. i yeah. -pay for that, you yeah. but you pay for that, you inon— yeah. but you pay for that, you know nnoi— yeah. but you pay for that, you know what you're— yeah. but you pay for that, you know what you're going to see, nidnio — know what you're going to see, nidnio _thoughtil right? these people thought, that's right? these people thought, thatthough. they're for, though. they're like, i paid going to sing. so paid £68. i'm going to sing. so goodness, i hope this becomes a court you found court case. now, you found oniiiy— court case. now, you found guilty-interrupting- itiiti. x b now, you found guilty interrupting show. itiiti. x b now, you found guilt do interrupting show. {.nix. x b now, you found guilt do int

what's your question? why is newham and brent- . : ninb7 why is newham and brent apparently . : ni:nb7 why is newham and brent apparently full of newham and brent apparently full oi nono— newham and brent apparently full oi inono pebble?— newham and brent apparently full of trans people? okay this was an interesting— of trans people? okay this was an interesting one- of trans people? okay this was an interesting one because there oinionoiy— an interesting one because there was obviously the _ an interesting one because there was obviously the most recent census produced— was obviously the most recent census produced some results inoi— census produced some results no nono— census produced some results no o— census produced some results that were a little- census produced some results that were a little bit questionable. 'bn: that were a little bit questionable. bi: that were a little bit- questionable. and they were suggesting, in fact, this census suggested that one in every 67 muslim, is transgender. and muslim, um, is transgender. and the reason is the question itself, because the question didn't say, are you transgender 7 didn't say, are you transgender ? uh, it had this convoluted form . it said is the gender you form. it said is the gender you identify with the same as your sex registered at birth ? and of sex registered at birth? and of course, a lot of migrants who engushis course, a lot of migrants who english is their second language don't that means. english is their second language don't that means . and don't know what that means. and they ended up they so we've ended up with a census tells that census that tells us that there's disproportion there's loads disproportion trans element the muslim trans element to the muslim community. i don't think that's true. apparently community. i don't think that's true . apparently that question true. apparently that question was-stonewall- true. apparently that question was-stonewall and. true. apparently that questioni was-stonewall and of was guided by stonewall and of ii— was guided by stonewall and of i no— was guided by stonewall and of course it was those communities ionno— course it was those communities were taking advice— course it was those communities were taking advice from far left nonpo— were taking advice from far left ononno inoi— were taking advice from far left ononno inoi inoy— were taking advice from far left groups that they thought were noinind— groups that they thought were helping inon— groups that they thought were helping them. and instead what it helping them. and instead what ii—nnoio— helping them. and instead what it_whole-into. it turned the whole thing into nos-idooiody- it turned the whole thing into was ideology that was political ideology that noonio— was political ideology that noonio didn-i— was political ideology that people didn't even know what inoy-no— they're signing up for. we've nod— they're signing up for. we've nod-nnn- they're signing up for. we've had-with.nhs.| had the same with the nhs. the nhs out letters

nhs putting out letters for cervix, hackers people with a cervix, hackers or people with a vulva and people vulva or whatever, and people whose second language is english. they don't know what it means. my second language is english. okay, you struggle english. okay, but you struggle niin— english. okay, but you struggle niin inoi— english. okay, but you struggle with that kind— english. okay, but you struggle with that kind of- big okay, but you struggle with that kind of thing, right? big okay, but you struggle with ”niniixy (ind of thing, right? big okay, but you struggle with ”niniixy nd of thing, right? big okay, but you struggle with ”niniixy /nix. f thing, right? big okay, but you struggle with ”niniixy /nix. |, right? big okay, but you struggle with ”niniixy /nix. ht? english. okay, but you struggle withreally . you know, you don't not really. you know, you don't have a cervix. i know . last time have a cervix. i know. last time i have a cervix. i know. last time i oiooiod— have a cervix. i know. last time i checked. yeah— have a cervix. i know. last time i checked. yeah but- have a cervix. i know. last time i checked. yeah but do- niiiibn x i know. last time i checked. yeah but do know i checked. yeah but do you know inoy— i checked. yeah but do you know inoy-noind— i checked. yeah but do you know they-using terms- they were using terms that onnononiiy— apparently this question like oiodondon— apparently this question like oiooondon o — apparently this question like cisgender ? “43? b ' bi: apparently this question like cisgender ? / bi: cisgender? yeah. and i think people mean, people whose people i mean, people whose engush people i mean, people whose english language as a first language didn't know that language didn't know what that meant. welcome. what's your dondon— meant. welcome. what's your gender identity?— gender identity? identity, nooononi— gender identity? identity,- nooononi—ino passport. no, no. this is the nico— passport. no, no. this is the nnioo—inol price people answered the onooiion. — price people answered the question. well,- price people answered the question. �*fiinixc price people answered the question. well, this is the problem. you take advice question. well, this is the problstonewall, you take advice question. well, this is the problstonewall, who :ake advice question. well, this is the problstonewall, who has advice from stonewall, who has so ideological side they ideological on one side and they think the same think everyone thinks the same way people like say, way as most people like you say, they what stuff they don't know what this stuff means. surely just means. the census is surely just to the facts about the to record the facts about the nation. quite dangerous nation. it's quite dangerous iooonoo— nation. it's quite dangerous because-money. nation. it's quite dangerous. because-money into because it funnels money into oonoin— because it funnels money into certain communities and stuff for certain communities and stuff ion oonoin— certain communities and stuff for certain reasons, doesn't it? so for certain reasons, doesn't it? so inio— for certain reasons, doesn't it? so no nonoy— for certain reasons, doesn't it? so this money going go so this money is going to go noyio— so this money is going to go maybe supporting maybe toward supporting a inonooondon— maybe toward supporting a transgender muslim community and inon— transgender muslim community and know nin — transgender muslim community and knew him .doesn't- transgender muslim community and knew him doesn't exist, knew him that doesn't exist, dooon-i— knew him that doesn't exist, doesn't-those - knew him that doesn't exist, doesn't those those doesn't exist. so those those nonndo—dono- pounds could have gone elsewhere.— pounds could have gone. elsewhere. _ say elsewhere. so you can say may noooo— elsewhere. so you can say may noooolnnon— elsewhere. so you can say may noooolnnon nin— elsewhere. so you can say may peace upon him, her that's peace be upon him, her that's inoi-o— peace be upon him, her that's inoi-o o— peace be upon him, her that's that's a slogan— peace be upon him, her that's that's a slogan . _ peace be upon him, her that's that's a slogan . �*7

that's a slogan. if you want to get in a lot of trouble you can do that. yeah, i'm not going to be just saying be saying it. i'm just saying it's coming up on it's okay. well coming up on free speech nation, going it's okay. well coming up on frehaveaech nation, going it's okay. well coming up on frehave moreyiation, going it's okay. well coming up on frehave more audience going it's okay. well coming up on frehave more audience questions it's okay. well coming up on freh we're ore audience questions it's okay. well coming up on freh we're going dience questions it's okay. well coming up on fre h we're going dience heading is and we're going to be heading over speak with over to america to speak with bill former spokesman bill clinton's former spokesman about donald trump's indictment . back in a few minutes.

welcome back to free speech nafion welcome back to free speech nation . idi amin, genghis khan, nation. idi amin, genghis khan, adolf hitler, joseph stalin, chairman mao, pol pot. what do all of these people have in common? it's not toxic masculinity. the key trait they all share is that for all the horror they unleashed, they all believed that they were the believed that they were on the right side history. believed that they were on the right side history . and right side of history. and that's we hear a lot that's a phrase we hear a lot these activists. it's these days from activists. it's a self—justifying cliche that doesn't mean anything doesn't really mean anything beyond expression moral beyond an expression of moral certainty . but if beyond an expression of moral certainty. but if you're a good person , do you really have to

person, do you really have to keep that you're good? keep saying that you're good? isn't it more about how you behave you your behave and how you treat your fellow human beings? maybe activists have to keep claiming they're on the side of they're on the right side of history so clear to history because it's so clear to everyone else that they're not. this week, the swimming champion riley gains was physically assaulted at san francisco state university by protesters who don't like the fact that she believes that sport ought to be segregated by sex. she was there to give a speech, not have a fight. but nonetheless, she was allegedly hit by a man in a dress multiple times. she was trapped in a room for three hours security guards hours while security guards negotiated with activists. the terms of her release. there's even a clip in which they're heard suggesting she could pay them for her freedom . now, i'm them for her freedom. now, i'm no expert, but this all no legal expert, but this all sounds like it's skirting dangerously close to kidnap . but dangerously close to kidnap. but there have been no arrests. the university hasn't disciplined those were those students who were effectively to prevent effectively there to prevent free apparently this free speech. so apparently this kind of behaviour is just fine . kind of behaviour is just fine. again and activists keep again and again, activists keep proving our points for us. we

say these are authoritarians . say these are authoritarians. they respond by trying to silence their critics, often by violence and intimidation. we say that women need single sex spaces as a form of safeguarding against the violent minority of men . and then large groups of men. and then large groups of men. and then large groups of men turn up and terrorise and assault women . over the past few assault women. over the past few weeks, i've been covering the clear escalation and the violent rhetoric from activists who promote gender identity, ideology . and i keep returning ideology. and i keep returning to this because it's clearly one of the greatest threats to free speech time. but do speech of our time. but we do need ask ourselves where it's need to ask ourselves where it's all leading. it is perhaps hyperbole invoke stalin and hyperbole to invoke stalin and mao all the other tyrannies mao and all the other tyrannies of history. and i'm not for one minute suggesting anywhere minute suggesting we're anywhere close that. it's close to that. but it's important to recognise that these activists do share that fundamental authoritarian instinct . they don't want to instinct. they don't want to persuade you. they want to force you into accepting their beliefs. they don't want to have a discussion about sensitive and complicated matters . they want complicated matters. they want to shut you up. so that they can't be opposed . they're not

can't be opposed. they're not burning heretics at the stake, but i'm not so sure that they wouldn't if they had the chance. consider example of consider the example of alexander solzhenitsyn, who was a was sentenced to a writer who was sentenced to eight in forced labour eight years in forced labour camps for a letter that he wrote that was critical stalin. that was critical of stalin. now he called the gulag he wrote a book called the gulag archipelago, which was all about the regime that went the stalinist regime that went on to responsible for in on to be responsible for in excess 20 deaths. and excess of 20 million deaths. and this is what solzhenitsyn says about a daylight arrest in which someone being led by crowds, someone is being led by crowds, by through a crowd. he by guards through a crowd. he says you aren't gagged . you says you aren't gagged. you really can and you really ought to cry out that arrests are being made on the strength of false denunciations , that false denunciations, that millions are being subjected to silent reprisals. if many such outcries had been heard all over the city in the course of a day would not our fellow citizens perhaps have to bristle would not our fellow citizens periwould ve to bristle would not our fellow citizens periwould arrests to bristle would not our fellow citizens periwould arrests perhaps;tle would not our fellow citizens periwould arrests perhaps no and would arrests perhaps no longer have been so easy in other words, tyranny doesn't come about overnight , but our come about overnight, but our liberties erode gradually like ice from a glacier . and with ice from a glacier. and with that in mind, let's take a look

at this now. this is a member of parliament in ontario, canada , parliament in ontario, canada, who was calling for legislation to criminalise, among other things, offensive remarks . things, offensive remarks. aukus. firstly it enables the attorney general to create a to lgbt wiki plus community safety zone to prohibit it within 100m of the property . any homophobic of the property. any homophobic inononnoiio— of the property. any homophobic transphobic act— of the property. any homophobic transphobic act of- any homophobic transphobic act of intimidation innooi— transphobic act of intimidation innooi .— transphobic act of intimidation threat , offensive— transphobic act of intimidation threat , offensive threats, threat, offensive threats, oiionoino— threat, offensive threats, offensive remarks, protest disturbance _ offensive remarks, protest disturbance and distribution of ido— disturbance and distribution of hate, propaganda within the noonind— hate, propaganda within the noonind oi— hate, propaganda within the meaning of the- hate, propaganda within the meaning of the criminal code. it oioo— meaning of the criminal code. it also comes with- meaning of the criminal code. it also comes with it- meaning of the criminal code. it also comes with it a penalty of $25,000— also comes with it a penalty of $25,000 ii— also comes with it a penalty of $25,000 if prosecuted successful . no— $25,000 if prosecuted successful . no so— $25,000 if prosecuted successful . no so inio— $25,000 if prosecuted successful . we so this happened just this noon. — . we so this happened just this noon. ino— . we so this happened just this week. the ndp's- . we so this happened just this week. \n "j 37�* b . we so this happened just this- week. the ndp's kristyn wong—tam tabled this motion in order to create what she calls to lgbtqi+ community safety zones in response to protests that have occurred against drag shows aimed at children. now, i'm sure

that some of those protesters have crossed the line into harassment and intimidation, but of such behaviour is of course such behaviour is already illegal. of course such behaviour is already illegal . and yet i can't already illegal. and yet i can't help but notice that most of the bullying violent behaviour bullying and violent behaviour we've protesters has we've seen from protesters has been coming from who been coming from those who consider to be consider themselves to be members of the two lgbtq+ activist community. would wang tam's proposed legislation be used against the kind of people that we'll see on the screen in a moment ? i that we'll see on the screen in a moment? i somehow doubt these are the kind of protesters that wang mind . now, wang tam has in mind. now, i should be clear that this is a motion tabled backbencher motion tabled by a backbencher from a party that isn't in power, thank god, but it is very revealing about the kind of mindset i'm talking about, particularly phrase particularly that phrase offensive remarks. we have hate speech laws here in the uk which have criminalised have seen people criminalised for because they're deemed for jokes because they're deemed grossly offensive . countries grossly offensive. countries across various hate across europe have various hate speech laws, of which are speech laws, none of which are consistent clearly consistent or clearly defined, because you attempt to because once you attempt to legislate against causing offence , you're taking the first offence, you're taking the first step very path because step on a very dark path because offence, as all know, is offence, as we all know, is hopelessly subjective. that's

why yusuf, who why humza yousaf yusuf, who vehemently pushed through his hate speech in scotland , hate speech bill in scotland, was recently reported to the police for breaking the law that he himself established. one might even say that the attempt to legislate against offensive speech is in itself offensive , speech is in itself offensive, so maybe the canadian police will take action against the ndp's. kristyn wong—tam . which ndp's. kristyn wong—tam. which bnngs ndp's. kristyn wong—tam. which brings us back to the so—called right side of history. now, i'm sure many of sure that many of the politicians are to politicians who are trying to kerb free speech are doing kerb our free speech are doing so because it's best so because they think it's best for that protects for us, or that it protects marginalised . they are, marginalised groups. they are, of course, doing untold harm to the people they claim be the very people they claim to be protecting civil protecting because no civil rights won or rights have ever been won or sustained without free speech and , it's up to all of us and really, it's up to all of us to stand when these to take a stand when these gradual liberal gradual attacks on liberal values not be values occur. we may not be heading for a world of gulags, but we shouldn't be fostering the mindset that created the very mindset that created them failing make the case them or failing to make the case for free speech at a time when authority aryanism deemed authority aryanism is deemed to be fashionable and morally correct. the old adage that the road to hell is paved with good intentions, but i'm not so

worried about those doing the paving . i'm worried about those doing the paving. i'm more worried about those doing the paving . i'm more worried about paving. i'm more worried about the of are standing the rest of us who are standing by silence and watching them by in silence and watching them as .erg by in silence and watching them as . erg . i want to as they work. erg. i want to bnngin as they work. erg. i want to bring in my panel here because i think this is very interesting. the canadian party, which is calling for these safe zones for two lgbtqia+ people. yes and that will that would include protecting people from hurtful words. thing is, i've been on protests on protests and i've been on counter—protests and i've heard protests and i've been on cyeah,'—protests and i've heard protests and i've been on cyeah, wordsests and i've heard protests and i've been on cyeah, words thatind i've heard protests and i've been on cyeah, words that arei've heard protests and i've been on cyeah, words that are upsetting , yeah, words that are upsetting in those circumstances. don't in those circumstances. i don't want prison want those people put in prison or not. but am i or of course not. but am i wrong? imean, or of course not. but am i wrong? i mean, people say the nondo— wrong? i mean, people say the nondo oi— wrong? i mean, people say the words of violence,— 37 i mean, people say the words of violence, but violence is words of violence, but violence io nioionoo— words of violence, but violence is violence and- words of violence, but violence is violence and words can be nonin— is violence and words can be nonini .— is violence and words can be nonini . ini— is violence and words can be hurtful. but i- is violence and words can be hurtful . but i mean, you can't hurtful. but i mean, you can't put— hurtful. but i mean, you can't nni noonio— hurtful. but i mean, you can't nni noonio in— hurtful. but i mean, you can't put people in prison. i so put people in prison. i mean, so is put people in prison. i mean, so io ii— put people in prison. i mean, so io iilnonny— put people in prison. i mean, so io iilnonny inon— put people in prison. i mean, so is it worry then, that there is it a worry then, that there are elements— is it a worry then, that there are elements within canadian are elements within the canadian dononnnoni— are elements within the canadian oononnnoni ond— are elements within the canadian government and.is_ government and it is a backbencher,- government and it is a backbencher, but it is something inoi— backbencher, but it is something inoilinini— backbencher, but it is something inoilinini o— backbencher, but it is something that think a trudeau's that i think a lot of trudeau's party— that i think a lot of trudeau's pony—iino- that i think a lot of trudeau's pony—iino io| party would certainly like to see established- party would certainly like to see established . �*fiibnix party would certainly like to see established . �*7 see established. what happens if that spreads ? and people that idea spreads? and people just actually, but just think, well, actually, but this is populism. it's just saying, this is populism. it's just ooyinolinon- this is populism. it's just saying,.know, we. it'sjust saying, know, we will this is populism. it's just. saying,.know, we will we saying, you know, we will we win— saying, you know, we will we niii oon— saying, you know, we will we will stop hate— saying, you know, we will we will stop hate what define hate? noii—

will stop hate what define hate? noii-inoi— will stop hate what define hate?i well,-that-people well, anything that makes people feel well, anything that makes people iooi-odoin— well, anything that makes people feel-again, that's- feel bad. but again, that's oniiooiino— feel bad. but again, that's oniiooiino .— feel bad. but again, that's subjective . so- feel bad. but again, that's subjective . so just subjective. so it's just it's iooi— subjective. so it's just it's iooi doing— subjective. so it's just it's just going create it. just going to create it. what we've seen this- just going to create it. what we've seen this with with posey, parker zealand, saw parker in new zealand, we saw large of activists large groups of activists physically, mean, year old physically, i mean, 172 year old woman punched repeatedly in woman was punched repeatedly in the with a broken skull . the face with a broken skull. and that's okay and they said, but that's okay because was hateful because she was being hateful and we've decided she's a, even though she wasn't a. so really , though she wasn't a. so really, we have to be very clear about the distinction between violence and . what's the two? and words. what's the two? sonny. — and words. what's the two? sonny. inoi-o— and words. what's the two? sorry, that's two- and words. what's the two? sorry, that's two s- bibn: : what's the two? sorry, that's two s right. nnion— sorry, that's two s right. which means- sorry, that's two s right. which means two - sorry, that's two s right. which means two spirit to spirit or the fact that you don't even know to s means what? so two s lgbtqia plus is two spirit before lesbian gay the two spirit canada now. so they did put two spirit at the end in america. in canada it's now two. what is two spirit mean? what is inon— what is two spirit mean? what is inoii ido— what is two spirit mean? what is inoii no on— what is two spirit mean? what is that? it's an indigenous belief inon— that? it's an indigenous belief from indigenous— that? it's an indigenous belief from indigenous canadian people and from indigenous canadian people ond nonin— from indigenous canadian people and north american indian people who and north american indian people nno ioiiovo— and north american indian people who believe they- and north american indian people who believe they have two opinio— who believe they have two oniniio—inoni spirits within within them. inoy-no — spirits within within them. inoyino on — spirits within within them. they're on the- spirits within within them. they're on the lgbt heap now. nono— they're on the lgbt heap now. no-no iooood— they're on the lgbt heap now. we've tossed them on that. so you— we've tossed them on that. so you on— we've tossed them on that. so you nono— we've tossed them on that. so you can have you- we've tossed them on that. so you can have you can have a gay opini—

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this is two spirits, a gay lizard? this io nnono— two spirits, a gay lizard? this is where the- two spirits, a gay lizard? this is where the da— two spirits, a gay lizard? this is where the da vinci code. �*ifiiby is where the da vinci code. why noonio— is where the da vinci code. why noonio iooi— is where the da vinci code. why some people just get along and have it's. it's have fun. and it's. it's byzantine. have fun. and it's. it's byzantine-many. have fun. and it's. it's. byzantine..many how have fun. and it's. it's- byzantine..many how many do byzantine. how many how many do we byzantine. how many how many do no-ioio— byzantine. how many how many do no-ioio on— byzantine. how many how many do no-ioio on on— byzantine. how many how many do we -take on our on- byzantine. how many how many do we take on our on our we have to take on our on our dnoiiin— we have to take on our on our dustbin before— we have to take on our on our dustbin before we're done? /nix. dustbin before we're done? you are dustbin before we're done? you doing— dustbin before we're done? you ioing inon— dustbin before we're done? you are being such a- dustbin before we're done? /nix. bng 93x the gays are being such a bigot. the gays are being such a bigot. the gays are so desperate— are being such a bigot. the gays are so desperate for- are so desperate for conversation. we'll talk to spin— conversation. we'll talk to spirit snack. _ conversation. we'll talk to spirit snack. we're not crazy onongn— spirit snack. we're not crazy onongn yon— spirit snack. we're not crazy enough, you know? is that what it enough, you know? is that what i nnoono— enough, you know? is that what i no— enough, you know? is that what it means? we see— enough, you know? is that what it means? we see a feather nonging— it means? we see a feather nonging inon — it means? we see a feather hanging from someone's car. oh, is hanging from someone's car. oh, io inoi— hanging from someone's car. oh, io inoi nnoi— hanging from someone's car. oh, is that what is— hanging from someone's car. oh, is that what is that- hanging from someone's car. oh, is that what is that what it idooo— is that what is that what it idooi no. — is that what is that what it idea? no. you- is that what is that what it idea? no. you know, i think i inini— idea? no. you know, i think i inini inio— idea? no. you know, i think i think this group- idea? no. you know, i think i think this group you're mentioning- think this group you're mentioning .- think this group you're mentioning . yes, i think might mentioning. yes, i think i might noio— mentioning. yes, i think i might noio inon— mentioning. yes, i think i might noio inon. i— mentioning. yes, i think i might hate them. i think- mentioning. yes, i think i might hate them. i think i think they nood— hate them. i think i think they nood o— hate them. i think i think they need a bodyguard. you know, i inon— need a bodyguard. you know, i know niin— need a bodyguard. you know, i know with the _ need a bodyguard. you know, i know with the part of this, to no— know with the part of this, to no io— know with the part of this, to no io. ioo.— know with the part of this, to no io. ioo. ii— know with the part of this, to me is, too. it must be a youth dninon— me is, too. it must be a youth dninon ining— me is, too. it must be a youth driven thing amongst the gay oonnnniiy— driven thing amongst the gay community, perhaps. and it might be community, perhaps. and it might ioo noni— community, perhaps. and it might be urban, because— community, perhaps. and it might be urban, because i- community, perhaps. and it might be urban, because i have to say , be urban, because i have to say .noniing— be urban, because i have to say .noniing on— be urban, because i have to say , working on the- be urban, because i have to say , working on the road in this oonniny— , working on the road in this oonniny ond— , working on the road in this country and worked country and i have worked the nood— country and i have worked the noodlconodo— country and i have worked the road.canada-us,. country and i have worked the. road.canada-us, when road in canada and the us, when you road in canada and the us, when yon—noni— road in canada and the us, when yon—ionn on- road in canada and the us, when yon—ionn on you- road in canada and the us, when you york or you leave you leave new york or you leave iononio— you leave new york or you leave toronto—london,- toronto or you leave london, dinonoiiy— toronto or you leave london, dinonoiiy-o- toronto or you leave london, diversity - a lot- toronto or you leave london, diversity a lot less out diversity matters a lot less out inono—

diversity matters a lot less out inono .— diversity matters a lot less out inono . ino— diversity matters a lot less out there . the audience just wants there. the audience just wants to there. the audience just wants io iongn.— there. the audience just wants io iongn. voo— there. the audience just wants to laugh. yes so— there. the audience just wants to laugh. yes so i- there. the audience just wants to laugh. yes so i think this is do— to laugh. yes so i think this is oioo in— to laugh. yes so i think this is oioo in o— to laugh. yes so i think this is oioo in o oony— to laugh. yes so i think this is also in a very it's- to laugh. yes so i think this is also in a very it's a microcosm. ido— also in a very it's a microcosm. in o— also in a very it's a microcosm. in o inonio— also in a very it's a microcosm. it's a bubble. yeah. but i mean, innin— it's a bubble. yeah. but i mean, that's the worry, isn't it? if younger people are saying younger people are now saying that actually we want to criminalise disagree criminalise people who disagree with good with us, that doesn't look good for future . it's bad for the future. it's bad parenting. yeah , baby. but parenting. yeah, baby. but that's smells fascism , that's smells of fascism, really. agree with us or really. if you agree with us or not, or we will. so maybe it's about education. maybe we need to about education. maybe we need io goi— about education. maybe we need do goi io— about education. maybe we need io goi io yonngon— about education. maybe we need to get to younger people- :bb maybe we need to get to younger people and oon— to get to younger people and oonloxnioin— to get to younger people and sort explain words. and sort of explain no words. and nioionoo— violence are different. if someone disagrees with you, yoo— someone disagrees with you, yon-noo—onl someone disagrees with you,i yon-noo—on ii. you're okay. you'll get over it. non-no—inoi. - you're okay. you'll get over it. you're—that. and. you're not hurt by that. and you oonioiniy— you're not hurt by that. and you oonioiniy-io- you're not hurt by that. and you certainly be beating certainly shouldn't be beating someone _true certainly shouldn't be beating. someone _true . someone up. yeah, that's true. ido— someone up. yeah, that's true. it's interesting.— someone up. yeah, that's true. it's interesting-mom - someone up. yeah, that's true. it's interesting-mom madel it's interesting. my mom made a point by breaking plastic point by breaking a plastic brush my head, and i never. brush over my head, and i never. inever brush over my head, and i never. i never spoke back. yeah, okay. but i think that's but i don't think that's something should apply to something we should apply to society. saying. when society. i'm just saying. when did that? society. i'm just saying. when. did -that?-doesn't did she do that? mother doesn't run did she do that? mother doesn't ino— did she do that? mother doesn't run the world,— did she do that? mother doesn't run the world, let's put it that noy—ino- run the world, let's put it that noy—ino nono| run the world, let's put it that. way._the name of run the world, let's put it that wayamerican the name of run the world, let's put it that wayamerican woman? fame of run the world, let's put it that wayamerican woman? the american woman? swimmer noooniiyo— the american woman? swimmer recently? gaines . yeah. recently? ryder gaines. yeah. yeah. actually attacked a man in a dress, beat her up, right. if he had had jeans and a shirt. he had had jeans and a t shirt. other women, know, feminists other women, you know, feminists would but now would have stopped him. but now he's. a dress. he's. oh, he's wearing a dress. carry must though , carry on. i must say, though,

ino— carry on. i must say, though, ioo—oi— carry on. i must say, though, ioo—oi son- carry on. i must say, though,- i've_at san francisco i've done shows at san francisco sioio. — i've done shows at san francisco state. . university _ i've done shows at san francisco state. university where that state. the university where that nonnonod— state. the university where that nonnonod-in— state. the university where that happened in incredibly happened there in incredibly nono— happened there in incredibly noio .— happened there in incredibly noio . and— happened there in incredibly woke . and they've had four woke. and they've had four dooodoo— woke. and they've had four dooodoo oi— woke. and they've had four decades of protests have occurred there. - decades of protests have occurred there. yes. so these noonio— occurred there. yes. so these are people that- occurred there. yes. so these are people that are kind of, i nood— are people that are kind of, i nnoi ooy.— are people that are kind of, i must say,.some- are people that are kind of, i must say, some in san must say, in some way in san inonoiooo— must say, in some way in san francisco. everyone's very oniiiiod— francisco. everyone's very. entitled. -for entitled. they're looking for a iigni. — fight. yeah but it's different, ion-i— fight. yeah but it's different, ionn—son- isn't it? i think san francisco's that francisco's always had that quality, been some quality, but there's been some kind the past kind of escalation over the past year they think year where now they think they're people they're entitled to beat people up. that's up. yeah that's. that's new. i think angry, dressed as think they're angry, dressed as the wizard oz. yeah. punching the wizard of oz. yeah. punching noonio—ono- the wizard of oz. yeah. punching noonio—ono inoy- the wizard of oz. yeah. punching people. are they for? people. yeah. what are they for? is it people. yeah. what are they for? io ii noon— people. yeah. what are they for? io ii ion— people. yeah. what are they for? is it never for anything?- people. yeah. �*ifii�*xx biii ninb7’ is it never for anything? they iooi— is it never for anything? they iooi oion— is it never for anything? they just stop everything. “in? b just stop everything. yeah, noii— just stop everything. yeah, well, there's— just stop everything. yeah, well, there's disparity well, there's a disparity of wealth. extreme wealth. it's the most extreme than else the us. than anywhere else in the us. right? producing more right? it's also producing more wealth else in the wealth than anywhere else in the history the world of history of the world because of facebook but facebook and all that. so. but there's of people there's a lot of people who've been left behind. think been left behind. i think those people want noticed. people all want to be noticed. they some notoriety and they want some notoriety and they're cause. they're fighting a cause. they're it is. and they're not sure what it is. and then here's this woman who's telling them what they disagree with i'm with. they think, well, i'm going you know, going to take a swipe. you know, it's worrying it's really, really worrying stuff. but it's really, really worrying stuff . but anyway, got to stuff. but anyway, we've got to mono-do — stuff. but anyway, we've got to mono-do noxi- stuff. b ut anyway, we've got to move - up next. free i move on now. up next on free snooon— move on now. up next on freei snooon—odnioono speech nation, former advisers to speech nation, former advisers io ioin — speech nation, former advisers to both president— speech nation, former advisers to both president clinton and trump— to both president clinton and innnn niii— to both president clinton and innnn niii io— to both president clinton and trump will be joining us from

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welcome back to free speech noiion— welcome back to free speech noiion niin— welcome back to free speech nation with me,— welcome back to free speech nation with me, andrew doyle . nation with me, andrew doyle. oonoid— nation with me, andrew doyle. i>onoid innno— nation with me, andrew doyle. donald trump faces 34 felony onongoo— donald trump faces 34 felony onongoo oi— donald trump faces 34 felony charges of falsifying business nooonod— charges of falsifying business nooonod in— charges of falsifying business records in the- charges of falsifying business records in the first degree. the onongoo— records in the first degree. the onongoo oii— records in the first degree. the charges all relate- records in the first degree. the charges all relate to a $130,000 noon— charges all relate to a $130,000 noon nonoy— charges all relate to a $130,000 hush money payment to by lawyer nionooi— hush money payment to by lawyer michael cohen— hush money payment to by lawyer michael cohen to- hush money payment to by lawyer michael cohen to adult film star sionny— michael cohen to adult film star stormy daniels— michael cohen to adult film star stormy daniels just before the zoo— stormy daniels just before the 2016 election— stormy daniels just before the 2016 election in- stormy daniels just before the 2016 election in order to noon— 2016 election in order to nnononi non— 2016 election in order to prevent her from talking about her allegations— prevent her from talking about her allegations that she had an oiioin— her allegations that she had an oiioin niin— her allegations that she had an affair with mr. _ her allegations that she had an affair with mr. trump in two inonoond— affair with mr. trump in two thousand and- affair with mr. trump in two thousand and seven, it makes him the thousand and seven, it makes him no no— thousand and seven, it makes him the first former— thousand and seven, it makes him the first former president to iooo — the first former president to face criminal— the first former president to face criminal charges. but where dooo— face criminal charges. but where dooolioono— face criminal charges. but where does.leave the- face criminal charges. but where does leave the 2024 does it leave the 2024 presidential- does it leave the 2024. presidential-race? does it leave the 2024- presidential-race? to presidential election race? to dioonoo— presidential election race? to discuss this,— presidential election race? to discuss this, i'm- presidential election race? to discuss this, i'm joined by ionon— discuss this, i'm joined by robert weiner,_ discuss this, i'm joined by robert weiner, former spokesperson to the clinton and inon— spokesperson to the clinton and bush administrations. and soiooiion— bush administrations. and sebastian president sebastian gorka, president innno— sebastian gorka, president trump's former- sebastian gorka, president trump's former deputy assistant. inoni—

trump's former deputy assistant. inoni-ioin— trump's former deputy assistant. thank-both so- trump's former deputy assistant. thank both so much for thank you both so much for ioining— thank you both so much for joining sebastian gorka , can joining me. sebastian gorka, can i-yu_ joining me. sebastian gorka, can i-yon iinoio— joining me. sebastian gorka, can i-you first? donald. i come to you first? donald innno— i come to you first? donald trump suggested this i come to you first? donald. trump.suggested.this is trump has suggested that this is an trump has suggested that this is on—ino— trump has suggested that this is an the weaponized an example of the weaponized nonoion-iogoi— an example of the weaponized version legal system . do version of the legal system. do you— version of the legal system. do you inini— version of the legal system. do you ininilnoo— version of the legal system. do you think-has a- version of the legal system. do you think has a point ? �*ifii�*nixl you think he has a point? well, iino.— you think he has a point? well, no happy— you think he has a point? well, first, happy andrew, and you've been a bit of a straight line, but thank you. we today. been a bit of a straight line, but thank you. we today . yes, but thank you. we today. yes, absolutely. what but thank you. we today. yes, absolutely . what i call a fact absolutely. what i call a fact noiionn— absolutely. what i call a fact noiionn .— absolutely. what i call a fact noiionn . inio— inixy what i call a fact pattern , this outrageous event pattern, this outrageous event is pattern, this outrageous event io oinniy— pattern, this outrageous event is oinniy ino— pattern, this outrageous event is simply the latest brazier nnoi— is simply the latest brazier nnoi io— is simply the latest brazier nnoi io o— is simply the latest brazier what is a political person? i'm sonny.— what is a political person? i'm sorry, sebastian— what is a political person? i'm sorry, sebastian .— what is a political person? i'm sorry, sebastian . we- what is a political person? i'm sorry, sebastian . we are- what is a political person? i'm sorry, sebastian . we are having sorry, sebastian. we are having trouble with the sound here with you, so i'm going to have to go to robert instead. we'll come back to you , sebastian, soon. back to you, sebastian, soon. robert, you the same robert, can i ask you the same question? you think that mr. question? do you think that mr. donald trump has a point about this, potentially this, that this is potentially the of the legal the weaponization of the legal system ? well, the only nization, system? well, the only nization, nnnon.— system? well, the only nization, anggw, noo— system? well, the only nization, andrew, has been- system? well, the only nization, andrew, has been by- eigr well, the only nization, andrew, has been by him twice innooonod— andrew, has been by him twice innooonod .— andrew, has been by him twice impeached , three- andrew, has been by him twice impeached , three times defeated impeached, three times defeated his impeached, three times defeated nio nninonoiiy— impeached, three times defeated his university and- impeached, three times defeated his university and his foundation- his university and his foundation shut down 30 counts.

and— foundation shut down 30 counts. and by— foundation shut down 30 counts. and by ino— foundation shut down 30 counts. and by one noy— foundation shut down 30 counts. and by one noy .— foundation shut down 30 counts. and by the way , the- foundation shut down 30 counts. and by the way , the 34- foundation shut down 30 counts. and by the way, the 34 counts, andrew, the washington post and all every newspaper in the country. it's not just stormy daniels. it's also karen mcdougal. $150,000. it's also the doorman in front of his house who he tried to shut up for $30,000. there are 34 counts and they all relate to election cheating. so the only one trying to weaponize is trump and calling everybody saying he's a victim and saying it's a it's a fake charge and it's the democrats out to get him. no it's the justice system justifiably out to get him . my justifiably out to get him. my understanding is that the kind of understanding is that the kind oi noon— understanding is that the kind oi noon nonoy— understanding is that the kind of hush money that you're doooniiing— of hush money that you're describing would be classified as describing would be classified oo—nnd- as a misdemeanour. and we're ioyond— as a misdemeanour. and we're ioyond ino— as a misdemeanour. and we're beyond the statute of limitations- beyond the statute of limitations at this point. so inio— limitations at this point. so this—elevated. limitations at this point. sol this—elevated to this needs to be elevated to a ioiony. — this needs to be elevated to a ioiony. linoi— this needs to be elevated to a felony. that right? true felony. is that right? not true . noi— felony. is that right? not true . nod noo. — felony. is that right? not true . not true. because- felony. is that right? not true . not true. because when it's tied to election fixing and election rigging, tied to election fixing and election rigging , then and election rigging, then and driving your girlfriend to shut up just before the election , up just before the election, then that's a separate issue . so then that's a separate issue. so that's how it gets tied and it becomes a felony . but this is becomes a felony. but this is just the beginning. this is the

tip of the iceberg for fani willis. and you remember the grand jury forewoman said it's going to be massive kyiv 11,780 votes. find me and it's okay if you guys adjust them on tape. on tape. you guys adjust them on tape. on tape . so everybody's been saying tape. so everybody's been saying , why is she even wait so long? because that's a prima facia case. and it's tragic that that that's what he tried to do with not only georgia, but wisconsin and pennsylvania and michigan. sebastian, in on that particular noni— sebastian, in on that particular point, sebastian,— sebastian, in on that particular point, sebastian, is it the case i point, sebastian, is it the case i noon— point, sebastian, is it the case i mean, robert— point, sebastian, is it the case i mean, robert wiener is making the i mean, robert wiener is making ino oooo— i mean, robert wiener is making no nono— i mean, robert wiener is making the case here that- i mean, robert wiener is making the case here that this is oonnooiod— the case here that this is connected specifically to the oiooiion — connected specifically to the election and _ connected specifically to the election and therefore it must be considered— election and therefore it must be considered a- election and therefore it must be considered a felony rather inon— be considered a felony rather inon o— be considered a felony rather than a misdemeanour? do you ooooni— than a misdemeanour? do you ooooni inoi— than a misdemeanour? do you accept that point? well first iningo— accept that point? well first iningo gig,— accept that point? well first things first, that happy easter to things first, that happy easter io yon— things first, that happy easter to you, andrew. _ things first, that happy easter to you, andrew. n:ninb i to you, andrew. um, no, i don't know who this person is, but he needs to calm down. clearly, he hasn't taken his medication today. just put the events today. let's just put the events of this shameless, shameless eventin of this shameless, shameless event in manhattan into a broader context . there's broader context. there's oonoining— broader context. there's something called- : ii; . {.iifi b .nix. there's something called a fact pattern in o— something called a fact pattern in o conni— something called a fact pattern in o oonni oi— something called a fact pattern in a court of law. _ something called a fact pattern in a court of law. �*ifii�*nixl in a court of law. well, let's look at the fact pattern of the

last six years. there have been nonooiod— last six years. there have been repeated attempts— last six years. there have been repeated attempts to - x «niilnif�*tfn there have been repeated attempts to use x «niilnif�*b there have been repeated attempts to use the iogoi— repeated attempts to use the iogoi oyoion— repeated attempts to use the iogoi oyoion .— repeated attempts to use the legal system , the judicial legal system, the judicial oyoion— legal system, the judicial oyoion ond— legal system, the judicial system and even the intelligence oonnnniiy— system and even the intelligence community against— system and even the intelligence community against president innn— community against president innnn. iinoi— community against president trump. first we- community against president trump. first we had crossfire, nniono— trump. first we had crossfire, nniono .— trump. first we had crossfire, hurricane , first- trump. first we had crossfire, hurricane , first time ever. hurricane, first time ever. innoo — hurricane, first time ever. three intelligence services were nood— three intelligence services were used surreptitiously to target a nnooidoniioi— used surreptitiously to target a presidential campaign to no onoii— presidential campaign to no onoii. inon— presidential campaign to no avail. then we- presidential campaign to no avail. then we had the overt nnoiion— avail. then we had the overt mueller probe— avail. then we had the overt mueller probe ,_ avail. then we had the overt mueller probe , a- avail. then we had the overt mueller probe , a $30 million 20 mueller probe, a $30 million 20 noniio— mueller probe, a $30 million 20 months. former— mueller probe, a $30 million 20 months. former director of the fbi months. former director of the iii oiionniing— months. former director of the fbi attempting to prove some kind— fbi attempting to prove some kind oi— fbi attempting to prove some kind of spurious— fbi attempting to prove some kind of spurious russia collusion. _ kind of spurious russia collusion. utter, complete fail. nnon— collusion. utter, complete fail. nnon inoi— collusion. utter, complete fail. when that didn't— collusion. utter, complete fail. when that didn't work, we had innooonnoni— when that didn't work, we had impeachment running impeachment to impeachment running impeachment io ino— impeachment running impeachment to the democrats— impeachment running impeachment to the democrats were so donongod. — to the democrats were so deranged. andrew they tried to innooon— deranged. andrew they tried to innooon ny— deranged. andrew they tried to impeach my former boss after he left impeach my former boss after he ioii oiiioo. — impeach my former boss after he left office, which _ impeach my former boss after he left office, which is- impeach my former boss after he left office, which is a little bit left office, which is a little iii oioi— left office, which is a little bit sick because- left office, which is a little bit sick because impeachment is nood— bit sick because impeachment is nood io— bit sick because impeachment is nood io goi— bit sick because impeachment is used to get somebody out of non— used to get somebody out of their elected— used to get somebody out of their elected position, not oiion— their elected position, not after they've _ their elected position, not after they've left the position. inon— after they've left the position. inon no— after they've left the position. inon no nod— after they've left the position. then we had the- after they've left the position. then we had the january 6th ionogo— then we had the january 6th ionogo go— then we had the january 6th ionogo go ino— then we had the january 6th farage go the witch trial and inon— farage go the witch trial and non ino — farage go the witch trial and then the actual- farage go the witch trial and then the actual raid by armed ogonio— then the actual raid by armed ogonio oi— then the actual raid by armed ogonio oi ino— then the actual raid by armed agents of the president's nninoio— agents of the president's private home _ agents of the president's private home in mar a lago . this private home in mar a lago. this is private home in mar a lago. this io iooi— private home in mar a lago. this io iooi ino— private home in mar a lago. this is just the latest— private home in mar a lago. this is just the latest iteration . is just the latest iteration. and— is just the latest iteration. and nnon— is just the latest iteration.

and when it- is just the latest iteration. and when it comes to this individnoi— and when it comes to this individual ,_ and when it comes to this individual, let's be clear, nnin— individual, let's be clear, ninin nogg— individual, let's be clear, alvin bragg is- individual, let's be clear, alvin bragg is a political meat puppet— alvin bragg is a political meat nnnnoi oi— alvin bragg is a political meat nnnnoi oi ooongo— alvin bragg is a political meat puppet of george soros . george puppet of george soros. george sonoo— puppet of george soros. george sonoo gono— puppet of george soros. george sonoo gono ii— puppet of george soros. george soros gave $1 million to the ionndoiion— soros gave $1 million to the foundation that- soros gave $1 million to the foundation that then gave alvin bragg— foundation that then gave alvin inogg ii— foundation that then gave alvin bragg $1 million— foundation that then gave alvin bragg $1 million after he did nnoii— bragg $1 million after he did no? niion— bragg $1 million after he did what? after in- bragg $1 million after he did what? after in a- bragg $1 million after he did what? after in a new york radio onon— what? after in a new york radio show interview,— what? after in a new york radio show interview, alvin bragg ooid— show interview, alvin bragg ooid. ny— show interview, alvin bragg said, my number one goal is to put— said, my number one goal is to nni inooidoni— said, my number one goal is to put president trump behind bars. inio— put president trump behind bars. inio io— put president trump behind bars. inio io o— put president trump behind bars. this is a political— put president trump behind bars. this is a political hatchet job ond— this is a political hatchet job ond oonyono— this is a political hatchet job and everyone in- this is a political hatchet job and everyone in america knows it. and everyone in america knows ii. nny— and everyone in america knows it. why president— and everyone in america knows it. why president trump's nonnioniiy— it. why president trump's p0pularity is_ it. why president trump's popularity is bigger than it's ever been, and- popularity is bigger than it's ever been, and he's already noiood— ever been, and he's already noiood $12— ever been, and he's already raised $12 million since the indioinoni— raised $12 million since the indictment. _ raised $12 million since the indictment. 'bn: raised $12 million since the indictment . ' bi: raised $12 million since the indictment. bi: x indictment. and sebastian, i'll just clarify for viewers at home that alvin bragg is the da who is leading the charges here. can i just bring is leading the charges here. can ijust bring robert is leading the charges here. can i just bring robert wiener i just bring in robert wiener here specific point? here on that specific point? would to to would you like to respond to what sebastian has said what sebastian gorka has said there? well actually, 64% of americans support the indictments. but americans support the indictments . but the point here indictments. but the point here is indictments. but the point here io inoi— indictments. but the point here io inoi inono— indictments. but the point here is that there are- indictments. but the point here is that there are so- bi: b but the point here is that there are so many facts inoi— is that there are so many facts that sebastoi— is that there are so many facts that sebastoi and- is that there are so many facts that sebastoi and his low key, coining— that sebastoi and his low key, ooining noy— that sebastoi and his low key, calming way trying to con the anonioon— calming way trying to con the american people- calming way trying to con the american people while he's being so coin.— american people while he's being so ooin. ino— american people while he's being so calm. the mueller statement

inoi— so calm. the mueller statement no no— so calm. the mueller statement was that he could— so calm. the mueller statement was that he could not prosecute . no— was that he could not prosecute . no oonid— was that he could not prosecute . no oonid noi— was that he could not prosecute . he could not indict because ino— . he could not indict because no inoiioo— . he could not indict because the justice department memo said he the justice department memo said no oonidn-i— the justice department memo said no oonidn-i .— the justice department memo said he couldn't , but- the justice department memo said he couldn't , but he- the justice department memo said he couldn't , but he had a full he couldn't, but he had a full nnndnodo— he couldn't, but he had a full nnndnodo oi— he couldn't, but he had a full hundreds of pages of specific iinio— hundreds of pages of specific iinio io— hundreds of pages of specific links to russia— hundreds of pages of specific links to russia by trump, as non— links to russia by trump, as noii oo— links to russia by trump, as noii oo ino— links to russia by trump, as well as the obstruction. in the ini— well as the obstruction. in the iinoi oooo— well as the obstruction. in the first case, he- well as the obstruction. in the first case, he weaponized when he first case, he weaponized when no-conoy. — first case, he weaponized when no-conoy. .iii - he fired comey. the fbi dinooion— he fired comey. the fbi director, he _ he fired comey. the fbi director, he fired maguire, the fbi director, he fired maguire, the iii dinooion— director, he fired maguire, the fbi director. he— director, he fired maguire, the fbi director. he wanted to put in o— fbi director. he wanted to put in a new attorney- fbi director. he wanted to put in a new attorney general and nio— in a new attorney general and nio onn— in a new attorney general and even his own staff baulked and odd— even his own staff baulked and ooid ononyiody— even his own staff baulked and said everybody would would would quit said everybody would would would gnii ii— said everybody would would would gnii ii yon— said everybody would would would gnii ii you did— said everybody would would would quit if you did that.— said everybody would would would quit if you did that. so the oniy— quit if you did that. so the oniy ono— quit if you did that. so the only one weaponizing because he was only one weaponizing because he no-nno— only one weaponizing because he noo-nno—inol was the one who committed the crimes was himself trying to nooonino— crimes was himself trying to nooonino .— crimes was himself trying to weaponize . so- crimes was himself trying to weaponize . so he would able weaponize. so he would be able to-up_ weaponize. so he would be able io-nn nnoi— weaponize. so he would be able io-nn no no— weaponize. so he would be able to-up what he did.- weaponize. so he would be able to up what he did. it was to cover up what he did. it was inogio— to cover up what he did. it was inogio ion— to cover up what he did. it was tragic for america _ to cover up what he did. it was tragic for america ,_ to cover up what he did. it was tragic for america , and that's tragic for america, and that's why— tragic for america, and that's nny-innoo— tragic for america, and that's why-three.loser. why he's a three time loser oinoo—noy- why he's a three time loser oinoo—noy .- why he's a three time loser oinoo—noy . ini why he's a three time loser. since _way , in the since 2016, by the way, in the in ino— since 2016, by the way, in the in no 2020,— since 2016, by the way, in the in the 2020, in- since 2016, by the way, in the in the 2020, in the off year, in ino— in the 2020, in the off year, in no oii— in the 2020, in the off year, in no oii oii— in the 2020, in the off year, in the off off year,— in the 2020, in the off year, in the off off year, in- in the 2020, in the off year, in the off off year, in the kansas yon inon— the off off year, in the kansas race, you know ,_ the off off year, in the kansas race, you know , in- the off off year, in the kansas race, you know , in the wisconsin race, you know, in the wisconsin ononynnono— race, you know, in the wisconsin race, everywhere , the issue has race, everywhere, the issue has ioon— race, everywhere, the issue has ioon noi— race, everywhere, the issue has ioon noi trump— race, everywhere, the issue has ioon noi innnn .— race, everywhere, the issue has been not trump . and this is been not trump. and this is going— been not trump. and this is going io— been not trump. and this is going to continue now . going to continue now. but ionon— going to continue now. but robert wiener, _ going to continue now. but robert wiener, are you not concerned slightly that this seems to be playing into trump's handsin seems to be playing into trump's hands in many ways? you know, he he talks about the narrative of how he's being victimised by the

deep this deep state or whatever. and this looks apparently deep state or whatever. and this loo polls apparently deep state or whatever. and this loo polls going apparently deep state or whatever. and this loo polls going upiarently deep state or whatever. and this loo polls going up off ntly deep state or whatever. and this loo polls going up off the his polls are going up off the back this. does that concern back of this. does that concern you? not independents and not you? not by independents and not onong— you? not by independents and not among democrats.— nix.7 not by independents and not among democrats. he's got a iiiiio— among democrats. he's got a little sliver— among democrats. he's got a little sliver of- among democrats. he's got a little sliver of 20 _ among democrats. he's got a little sliver of 20 to 30% out ond— little sliver of 20 to 30% out ond inooo — little sliver of 20 to 30% out and those are- little sliver of 20 to 30% out and those are among republicans nnono— and those are among republicans where even a third— and those are among republicans where even a third of the republicans- where even a third of the republicans are against him. you inon— republicans are against him. you know. no— republicans are against him. you know, liz cheney— republicans are against him. you know, liz cheney didn't come out of know, liz cheney didn't come out oi nonnnoo— know, liz cheney didn't come out of nowhere and- know, liz cheney didn't come out of nowhere and raffensberger , of nowhere and raffensberger, for of nowhere and raffensberger, ion ono— of nowhere and raffensberger, ion no-o— of nowhere and raffensberger, for one. he's laughing. so he iongn.— for one. he's laughing. so he can laugh. raffensberger won in ooongio.— can laugh. raffensberger won in georgia. raffensberger the guy nno— georgia. raffensberger the guy nno goi— georgia. raffensberger the guy nno goi ino— georgia. raffensberger the guy who got the tape— georgia. raffensberger the guy who got the tape of the find me iiioo — who got the tape of the find me iiioo noooi — who got the tape of the find me 11,780 votes. he— who got the tape of the find me 11,780 votes. he won by 20 noinio— 11,780 votes. he won by 20 noinio in— 11,780 votes. he won by 20 points in georgia. so this this guy— points in georgia. so this this guy is_ points in georgia. so this this guy is ino— points in georgia. so this this guy is the worst- points in georgia. so this this guy is the worst thing that's nonnonod— guy is the worst thing that's nonnonod io— guy is the worst thing that's happened to the republican nonoy- — happened to the republican nonoy- .o— happened to the republican party. a disaster for them. party. he's a disaster for them. in— party. he's a disaster for them. in noi— party. he's a disaster for them. i'm not against— party. he's a disaster for them. i'm not against republicans. cnnoi— i'm not against republicans. chuck grassley— i'm not against republicans. chuck grassley friend . i chuck grassley is a friend. i nooiiy— chuck grassley is a friend. i really respect— chuck grassley is a friend. i really respect reagan and bush as really respect reagan and bush oo ino— really respect reagan and bush as the president.— really respect reagan and bush as the president. i worked in ino— as the president. i worked in no inon— as the president. i worked in the bush administration after the bush administration after no ciinion— the bush administration after the clinton administration. they ioni— the clinton administration. they iooi no— the clinton administration. they kept me because— the clinton administration. they kept me because my kept me because of my bipartisanship. kept me because of my bipartis republicans , sebastian. against republicans, sebastian. i'm against republicans, sebastian. i-n ogoinoi— against republicans, sebastian. i'm against this- against republicans, sebastian. i'm against this one. i used to mini— i'm against this one. i used to inini inoi— i'm against this one. i used to think that richard- i'm against this one. i used to think that richard nixon was the noni— think that richard nixon was the nono-ini— think that richard nixon was the nonoi-ini in— think that richard nixon was the worst-but in my- worst president, but in my iiioiino.— worst president, but in my lifetime, donald trump far lifetime, donald trump is far ond— lifetime, donald trump is far ond-nonoi.- lifetime, donald trump is far and-worst. i'm. lifetime, donald trump is far and worst. i'm going lifetime, donald trump is far. and-worst. i'm going to and away the worst. i'm going to nono—in- have to bring sebastian in here

iooonoo— have to bring sebastian in here because-laughing. have to bring sebastian in here because laughing there because you were laughing there - _you_ because you were laughing there . —yodiinding- because you were laughing there. . _you finding amusing . what were you finding amusing ? oh. oh all of it. it's. i think we've- ? oh. oh all of it. it's. i think we've found.- think we've found. congratulations. i think you've ionnd— congratulations. i think you've ionnd trump— congratulations. i think you've found trump derangement syndrome noiioni— found trump derangement syndrome noiioni oo— found trump derangement syndrome noiioni io— found trump derangement syndrome patient zero to mention liz cnonoy— patient zero to mention liz cnonoy .— patient zero to mention liz cnonoy . nno— patient zero to mention liz cheney , who was excoriated cheney, who was excoriated nooond— cheney, who was excoriated nooond ny— cheney, who was excoriated ooond in non— cheney, who was excoriated record by her own party and then iooi— record by her own party and then iooi in— record by her own party and then iooi in on— record by her own party and then lost in an election— record by her own party and then lost in an election .— record by her own party and then lost in an election . that's the lost in an election. that's the noon— lost in an election. that's the nonoon nno-o— lost in an election. that's the nonoon nno-o o— lost in an election. that's the person who's a great republic , person who's a great republic, nno— person who's a great republic, nno io— person who's a great republic, who is utterly— person who's a great republic, who is utterly trounced by her oido— who is utterly trounced by her oido. ioi— who is utterly trounced by her own side. let me- who is utterly trounced by her own side. let me tell you how nonniod— own side. let me tell you how worried president- own side. let me tell you how worried president trump is. this is worried president trump is. this io nin— worried president trump is. this is him yesterday— worried president trump is. this is him yesterday in miami at the no. — is him yesterday in miami at the no. no— is him yesterday in miami at the ufc. he doesn't— is him yesterday in miami at the ufc. he doesn't look very nonniod— ufc. he doesn't look very nonniod io— ufc. he doesn't look very worried to me,- ufc. he doesn't look very worried to me, does he, when it io— worried to me, does he, when it comes to alvin— worried to me, does he, when it comes to alvin bragg ? one more comes to alvin bragg? one more doiigniini— comes to alvin bragg? one more delightful thing— comes to alvin bragg? one more delightful thing about alvin inogg— delightful thing about alvin inogg. ii— delightful thing about alvin nnogg. ii yon— delightful thing about alvin bragg. if your viewers and don't inini— bragg. if your viewers and don't inini yon— bragg. if your viewers and don't think your guest— bragg. if your viewers and don't think your guest knows this is a iniiion— think your guest knows this is a british program,— think your guest knows this is a british program, so we're not ioiiing— british program, so we're not ioiiing io— british program, so we're not ioiiing do on— british program, so we're not talking to an american audience, youn— talking to an american audience, yon—nodd- talking to an american audience, your—would like. your british viewers would like to your british viewers would like io inon— your british viewers would like do know non— your british viewers would like to know how much of a stalinesque _ to know how much of a stalinesque star which trial inio— stalinesque star which trial inio io. — stalinesque star which trial this is. watch— stalinesque star which trial this is. watch the brief, very onno— this is. watch the brief, very onino nooo— this is. watch the brief, very outre press conference by alvin braggi— outre press conference by alvin inogg. ino— outre press conference by alvin bragg, the district attorney of nonnoiion— bragg, the district attorney of nonnoiion .— bragg, the district attorney of manhattan , where a left wing manhattan, where a left wing ionnnoiioi— manhattan, where a left wing journalist. this- manhattan, where a left wing journalist. this is shocking. inono-o— journalist. this is shocking. inono-o o— journalist. this is shocking. there's a random act of

ionnnoiion— there's a random act of journalism in- there's a random act of journalism in establishment ionnnoiion— journalism in establishment journalism. journalist says you ooid— journalism. journalist says you ooid yon— journalism. journalist says you ooid yon ooy— journalism. journalist says you said you say that- journalism. journalist says you said you say that these are all ioionioo— said you say that these are all felonies, but- said you say that these are all felonies, but these are misdemeanours. they're only a ioiony— misdemeanours. they're only a ioiony ii— misdemeanours. they're only a ioiony ii ino— misdemeanours. they're only a felony if the business transaction - felony if the business transaction misstatement is used to transaction misstatement is used io nido— transaction misstatement is used to hide another— transaction misstatement is used to hide another crime. why don't you noniion— to hide another crime. why don't you mention the- to hide another crime. why don't you mention the crime? depher bragg— you mention the crime? depher inogg in— you mention the crime? depher inogg in yon— you mention the crime? depher inogg in yonn zi— you mention the crime? depher bragg in your 27 pages and you inon— bragg in your 27 pages and you know nio— bragg in your 27 pages and you know his answer— bragg in your 27 pages and you know his answer is he looks in ino— know his answer is he looks in no oooo— know his answer is he looks in no ond— know his answer is he looks in the camera and says, because i don-i— the camera and says, because i don-i nono— the camera and says, because i don-i nono io— the camera and says, because i don't have to mean- the camera and says, because i don't have to mean pure stalin. inno— don't have to mean pure stalin. iono ionno— don't have to mean pure stalin. pure levante, beria, show me the ond— pure levante, beria, show me the ond i— pure levante, beria, show me the ond i win— pure levante, beria, show me the man and i will find— pure levante, beria, show me the man and i will find you the onio— man and i will find you the crime . america- man and i will find you the crime . america looks at that and crime. america looks at that and inoy— crime. america looks at that and inoy ooy.— crime. america looks at that and inoy ooy. ioi— crime. america looks at that and inoy ooy. ioi no— crime. america looks at that and they say, let me write another onooi— they say, let me write another onooi ion— they say, let me write another check for donald— they say, let me write another check for donald trump . it is a check for donald trump. it is a oiooinio— check for donald trump. it is a absolute farce— check for donald trump. it is a absolute farce .— check for donald trump. it is a absolute farce . yes. okay. we're absolute farce. yes. okay. we're going— absolute farce. yes. okay. we're going io— absolute farce. yes. okay. we're going io ung— absolute farce. yes. okay. we're going io ining in— absolute farce. yes. okay. we're going to bring in robert wiener ogoin— going to bring in robert wiener ogoin nono— going to bring in robert wiener ogoin nono on— going to bring in robert wiener again here on this point, do you not again here on this point, do you noi i— again here on this point, do you noi i noon— again here on this point, do you noi i do— again here on this point, do you not i mean, do you- again here on this point, do you not i mean, do you think it is a ioooiiio— not i mean, do you think it is a feasible scenario? _ not i mean, do you think it is a feasible scenario? by; not i mean, do you think it is a feasible scenario? “c; b feasible scenario? they broken this up into 34 different counts feasible scenario? they broken thi each nto 34 different counts feasible scenario? they broken thieach counti different counts feasible scenario? they broken thi each count potentially ounts feasible scenario? they broken thi each count potentially has:s as each count potentially has 3 or 4 years in jail. is it just the spectre of donald trump being in jail that is getting people excited ? and do you think people excited? and do you think thatis people excited? and do you think that is a likely outcome? oh, well, first of all, about- well, first of all, about iniioin— well, first of all, about iniioin. i— well, first of all, about britain. i love- well, first of all, about britain. i love being on your onon— britain. i love being on your onon. i— britain. i love being on your onon. i iono— britain. i love being on your show. i love talking to the

onion— show. i love talking to the british people _ show. i love talking to the british people and britain is the british people and britain is no niooo— british people and britain is the place where- british people and britain is the place where the parliament ooid— the place where the parliament an, don-i— the place where the parliament said, don't come— the place where the parliament said, don't come over here, i>onoid. — said, don't come over here, i>onoid. oo— said, don't come over here, donald. do not- said, don't come over here, donald. do not come. we forbid you— donald. do not come. we forbid yon io— donald. do not come. we forbid you no oono— donald. do not come. we forbid you to come. and— donald. do not come. we forbid you to come. and then the queen or you to come. and then the queen on oonoiody— you to come. and then the queen on oonoiody on— you to come. and then the queen or somebody or prime or somebody or the prime ninioion— or somebody or the prime minister-he's. or somebody or the prime. minister-he's coming minister said, no, he's coming onynoy. — minister said, no, he's coming onynoy. .yon — minister said, no, he's coming anyway. you remember that anyway. but you remember that nnon— anyway. but you remember that nnon ino— anyway. but you remember that when the parliament actually noiod— when the parliament actually. noiod—ooning. voted to block him from coming. so voted to block him from coming. so inoi-o— voted to block him from coming. so inoi-o ono— voted to block him from coming. so that's one thing.— voted to block him from coming. so that's one thing. but in ionno— so that's one thing. but in ionno oi— so that's one thing. but in terms of trump- so that's one thing. but in terms of trump and his shenanigans- terms of trump and his shenanigans ,- terms of trump and his shenanigans , he has committed so shenanigans, he has committed so nony— shenanigans, he has committed so nony inoi— shenanigans, he has committed so nony inoi ido— shenanigans, he has committed so many that it's not- shenanigans, he has committed so many that it's not just a monon— many that it's not just a noiion. oo— many that it's not just a matter, as i- many that it's not just a matter, as i said of this one ido— matter, as i said of this one iiio going— matter, as i said of this one case, it's going to blend. it's going— case, it's going to blend. it's going io— case, it's going to blend. it's going io io— case, it's going to blend. it's going io ioo o— case, it's going to blend. it's going to be a combing of charges iooonoo— going to be a combing of charges iooonoo oi— going to be a combing of charges because of the- going to be a combing of charges because of the five— because of the five investigations that are against nin— investigations that are against nin. inio— investigations that are against nin. inio guy.— investigations that are against him. this guy, his time has come to him. this guy, his time has come io noooi— him. this guy, his time has come io noooi ond— him. this guy, his time has come to roost and he's— him. this guy, his time has come to roost and he's about to pay ino— to roost and he's about to pay no ninon— to roost and he's about to pay no ninon. so— to roost and he's about to pay the piper. so your- to roost and he's about to pay the piper. so your your contention- the piper. so your your contention is- the piper. so your your contention is that there are iningo— contention is that there are more things coming down the ninoiino— more things coming down the ninoiino inoi— more things coming down the pipeline that we- more things coming down the pipeline that we don't yet know oioni. — pipeline that we don't yet know oioni. and— pipeline that we don't yet know about. and this- pipeline that we don't yet know about. and this is- pipeline that we don't yet know about. and this is all- pipeline that we don't yet know about. 'n: 92» g pipeline that we don't yet know about. ' :o : about. and this is all going to come in the trial. sebastian come out in the trial. sebastian gorka, do think is gorka, do you think that is likely , actually likely actually, we actually do know because the grand know about because the grand jurors in the atlantic jurors spoke in the atlantic case and one at a time, please. one at a time. sebastian what would you like to say to that .7 i

would you like to say to that? i find it really weird that we're here to talk about criminal charges. and he's talking about the uk— charges. and he's talking about the uk parliament— :: and he's talking about the uk parliament and the queen, and he— the uk parliament and the queen, and he can-t— the uk parliament and the queen, and he can't even— the uk parliament and the queen, and he can't even get his facts right. — and he can't even get his facts right. .— and he can't even get his facts right. l mean— and he can't even get his facts right. i mean, this— and he can't even get his facts right. i mean, this is this is the— right. i mean, this is this is the pester— right. i mean, this is this is the poster child. - right. i mean, this is this is the poster child. i don't know whe— the poster child. i don't know who the— the poster child. i don't know who this other— the poster child. i don't know who this other guest is. the pester— who this other guest is. the peeher ehhe— who this other guest is. the poster child for— who this other guest is. the poster child for the insane heheehhe. — poster child for the insane democrats. i— poster child for the insane democrats. i mean, listen, the heme— democrats. i mean, listen, the heme eeeeheh— democrats. i mean, listen, the former speaker of— democrats. i mean, listen, the former speaker of the house, who hush— former speaker of the house, who hme eueheh— former speaker of the house, who was just ousted, nancy pelosi , was just ousted, nancy pelosi, whe— was just ousted, nancy pelosi, whe her— was just ousted, nancy pelosi, whe heh hem— was just ousted, nancy pelosi, who for four years— was just ousted, nancy pelosi, who for four years refused to eeeemee— who for four years refused to eeemeeg my— who for four years refused to recognise my former boss as hemm— recognise my former boss as actual president— recognise my former boss as actual president, called him the heeheem— actual president, called him the heeheem h— actual president, called him the resident in the— actual president, called him the resident in the white house heeeuee— resident in the white house heeeuee hhe— resident in the white house because the democrats so eheeehee— because the democrats so disdained the _ because the democrats so disdained the american people, he— disdained the american people, he have— disdained the american people, they have become— disdained the american people, they have become a party of the heme— they have become a party of the white bicoastal_ they have become a party of the white bicoastal elite. this woman tweeted out just a few hem— woman tweeted out just a few have eee.— woman tweeted out just a few days ago. donald— woman tweeted out just a few days ago. donald trump isn't eheve— days ago. donald trump isn't eheve hhe— days ago. donald trump isn't above the law— days ago. donald trump isn't above the law and he will have an above the law and he will have em eeeehmhm— above the law and he will have em eeeehumm he— above the law and he will have an opportunity to prove his innocence in— an opportunity to prove his innocence in court. an opportunity to prove his innocence in court . doesn't that innocence in court. doesn't that heu— innocence in court. doesn't that en youe— innocence in court. doesn't that tell you, andrew,— innocence in court. doesn't that tell you, andrew, everything you heed— tell you, andrew, everything you need he— tell you, andrew, everything you need to know?— tell you, andrew, everything you need to know? this system eemehy— need to know? this system actually inherited the british eyehem — actually inherited the british eyehem he— actually inherited the british system is absolute non negotiable.— system is absolute non negotiable. you are innocent

mm— negotiable. you are innocent me me— negotiable. you are innocent until the government proves you guhhy. — until the government proves you gmhy. hme— until the government proves you gmhy. me me— until the government proves you guilty. and the former speaker of guilty. and the former speaker eh hhe— guilty. and the former speaker eh hhe heme— guilty. and the former speaker of the house is— guilty. and the former speaker of the house is so— guilty. and the former speaker of the house is so deranged, she says— of the house is so deranged, she sees .— of the house is so deranged, she eeye , vou— of the house is so deranged, she eeye , yeu get— of the house is so deranged, she eeye , yeu gee he— of the house is so deranged, she says , you get to prove your says, you get to prove your innocence . that's the democrat innocence. that's the democrat party— innocence. that's the democrat hehy heeey. — innocence. that's the democrat hehy heeey. leh— innocence. that's the democrat party today. let me put that to meet— party today. let me put that to robert wiener. _ party today. let me put that to robert wiener. i— party today. let me put that to robert wiener. " party today. let me put that to robert wiener. i mean, that that the prove your innocence the phrase prove your innocence from pelosi does suggest a from nancy pelosi does suggest a misunderstanding of the legal system. thing. but don't system. for one thing. but don't you fear just in terms of strategy from a democratic point of view, in terms of strategy, that donald trump's that playing into donald trump's handsin that playing into donald trump's hands in this way as it has been perceived isn't helpful perceived probably isn't helpful and maybe to lower the temperature these debates so temperature on these debates so that people aren't so upset. i mean, you've come across as a bit upset yourself about it. is that helpful ? well, actually, that helpful? well, actually, seheehheh— that helpful? well, actually, sebastian sounds— 3’ well, actually, sebastian sounds just like the heme— sebastian sounds just like the hump hewyem— sebastian sounds just like the trump lawyers and 64 of the hheh— trump lawyers and 64 of the cases that went— trump lawyers and 64 of the cases that went to court , trump cases that went to court, trump hem— cases that went to court, trump heeh eh— cases that went to court, trump heeh eh eh— cases that went to court, trump lost 64 of them.— cases that went to court, trump lost 64 of them. so— cases that went to court, trump lost 64 of them. so on election eme— lost 64 of them. so on election and h— lost 64 of them. so on election and h herme— lost 64 of them. so on election and in terms of— lost 64 of them. so on election and in terms of the— lost 64 of them. so on election and in terms of the strategy, let and in terms of the strategy, heh me— and in terms of the strategy, heh me hush— and in terms of the strategy, hee me he say— and in terms of the strategy, let me just say that when the meme— let me just say that when the meme rehehe— let me just say that when the meme heeehe .— let me just say that when the media reports , as— let me just say that when the media reports , as they did, 34

media reports, as they did, 34 eeuem— media reports, as they did, 34 eeuem hem— media reports, as they did, 34 counts lays them _ media reports, as they did, 34 counts lays them out , you can't counts lays them out, you can't have— counts lays them out, you can't have eemeheey— counts lays them out, you can't have somebody like sebastian hush— have somebody like sebastian hme mehmg— have somebody like sebastian mm mm uh— have somebody like sebastian just making up what this stuff is. just making up what this stuff he. he— just making up what this stuff he. me here— just making up what this stuff is. it's there in— just making up what this stuff is. it's there in fact, and it mu— is. it's there in fact, and it mu he— is. it's there in fact, and it will be there— is. it's there in fact, and it will be there .— is. it's there in fact, and it will be there . in fact, in the will be there. in fact, in the indictments— will be there. in fact, in the indictments in— will be there. in fact, in the indictments in georgia. it will be indictments in georgia. it will he there— indictments in georgia. it will he hhehe h— indictments in georgia. it will be there in-york- indictments in georgia. it will be there in-york .- indictments in georgia. it will be there in york . it will be there in new york. it will be there— be there in new york. it will be hhehelhhe— be there in new york. it will be there-the jean— be there in new york. it will be there the jean carroll rape there in the jean carroll rape h— there in the jean carroll rape h mu— there in the jean carroll rape case. it will be— there in the jean carroll rape case. it will be there in the new— case. it will be there in the new hem— case. it will be there in the new york corporations like his . new york corporations like his. as new york corporations like his. he .— new york corporations like his. he h eme— new york corporations like his. he h eehe, hhe— new york corporations like his. as i said, his foundation is mhehehy— as i said, his foundation is university were— as i said, his foundation is university were both shut down by me— university were both shut down he he eeuhe— university were both shut down by the courts and— university were both shut down by the courts and so when the cases come out— by the courts and so when the cases come out ,_ by the courts and so when the cases come out, what i did was i eem— cases come out, what i did was i eem he— cases come out, what i did was i eem he hheem— cases come out, what i did was i sent to biden a— cases come out, what i did was i sent to biden a copy— cases come out, what i did was i sent to biden a copy of a speech i sent to biden a copy of a speech h gave— sent to biden a copy of a speech h eeve eh— sent to biden a copy of a speech h gave eh uheee— sent to biden a copy of a speech i gave at umass democracy is in hem— i gave at umass democracy is in hem eme— i gave at umass democracy is in hem and we— i gave at umass democracy is in peril and we need— i gave at umass democracy is in peril and we need to get out and vehe. — peril and we need to get out and vehe. hme— peril and we need to get out and vehe. hme he— peril and we need to get out and vote. and he gave— peril and we need to get out and vote. and he gave two speeches mee— vote. and he gave two speeches hee-mee— vote. and he gave two speeches just-that .— vote. and he gave two speeches just-that , which— vote. and he gave two speeches just that , which were very just like that, which were very hereueehe— just like that, which were very hereueehve he — just like that, which were very persuasive to the— just like that, which were very persuasive to the american eeeehe. — persuasive to the american people- hme— persuasive to the american people. and that's what's going to people. and that's what's going he heeeem— people. and that's what's going he heeeem he— people. and that's what's going to happen is that— people. and that's what's going to happen is that as the facts come out, the— to happen is that as the facts come out, the media will report the come out, the media will report hhe heehe— come out, the media will report hhe heehe. hhey— come out, the media will report the facts. they will— come out, the media will report the facts. they will report hheee— the facts. they will report these bullets— the facts. they will report these bullets of the indictments . hme— these bullets of the indictments . hme ee— these bullets of the indictments . hme ee hhe— these bullets of the indictments . and as the january 6th committee,— . and as the january 6th committee, sebastian went hemme— committee, sebastian went hemehh eme— committee, sebastian went forward and talked to pelosi forward and i talked to pelosi eme— forward and i talked to pelosi emelhehe— forward and i talked to pelosi ehelhehh youe— forward and i talked to pelosi and itold you,-got- forward and i talked to pelosi and told you, got to be and i told you, it's got to be hem.— and i told you, it's got to be heheleeh— and i told you, it's got to be hehelgeh he— and i told you, it's got to be bold.-got to be- and i told you, it's got to be bold. got to be transparent and i told you, it's got to be band got to be transparent and i told you, it's got to be band it got to be transparent and i told you, it's got to be band it became be transparent and i told you, it's got to be band it became that ansparent and i told you, it's got to be band it became that as;parent and i told you, it's got to be band it became that as that nt . and it became that as that happened— . and it became that as that happened .— . and it became that as that happened , hhe— . and it became that as that happened , the numbers went down, happened, the numbers went down, deem,— happened, the numbers went down,

eewm, eewm. — happened, the numbers went down, down, down. then— happened, the numbers went down, down, down. then it— happened, the numbers went down, down, down. then it shut down for down, down. then it shut down her e— down, down. then it shut down her e eeuhhe— down, down. then it shut down for a couple of— down, down. then it shut down for a couple of months. and hheh-e— for a couple of months. and hheh-e when— for a couple of months. and that's when i— for a couple of months. and that's when i sent the stuff to hheee— that's when i sent the stuff to biden through— that's when i sent the stuff to biden through pelosi and through hheeh-e— biden through pelosi and through hheeh-e hheee— biden through pelosi and through biden's press people. and eueeemh— biden's press people. and suddenly two suddenly biden gave these two eheeehee. — suddenly biden gave these two eeeeehee. hhe— suddenly biden gave these two speeches. i've known biden- forever. _friend forever. he's a long time friend . hme— forever. he's a long time friend . hme he— forever. he's a long time friend . and he persuasive in . and he was very persuasive in hhe— . and he was very persuasive in hhe mhhherme— . and he was very persuasive in the midterms. and— . and he was very persuasive in the midterms. and it helped ehehmeuehy— the midterms. and it helped enormously in— the midterms. and it helped enormously in the midterms to bring— enormously in the midterms to bring euh— enormously in the midterms to bring out-facts— enormously in the midterms to bring out-facts .- enormously in the midterms to bring out facts . so as enormously in the midterms to bring out facts. so as long enormously in the midterms to brithe>ut facts . so as long enormously in the midterms to bri the democratss . so as long enormously in the midterms to bri the democrats ando as long enormously in the midterms to bri the democrats and the long enormously in the midterms to bri the democrats and the media as the democrats and the media bring— as the democrats and the media hme-hhe— as the democrats and the media bring-the facts— as the democrats and the media bring the facts against bring out the facts against trumpe— bring out the facts against hmmh he— bring out the facts against heme, he he— bring out the facts against trump, he he will lose again. hhehh— trump, he he will lose again. hhehh — trump, he he will lose again. hhghh hen.— trump, he he will lose again. right well, let's— trump, he he will lose again. right �*" right well, let's just finally before we got we haven't got much time. but sebastian, i just want to ask you that. i mean, robert wiener making a clear case nobody above case there. nobody is above the law include law and that will include someone former someone who is a former president. mean, fair president. i mean, that's fair enough, it? it president. i mean, that's fair enough, it ? it would be if enough, isn't it? it would be if he heem-h— enough, isn't it? it would be if he hadn't been— hi: c fl it would be if he hadn't been politically eeheeeuhee— he hadn't been politically persecuted for— he hadn't been politically persecuted for six years. look i h— persecuted for six years. look i mean, i actually— persecuted for six years. look i mean, i actually worked for hheeheehh— mean, i actually worked for president trump. i don't send hhm— president trump. i don't send hhm eehhee— president trump. i don't send hhm eeehee eh— president trump. i don't send him copies of my— president trump. i don't send him copies of my speeches . president trump. i don't send him copies of my speeches. this guy— him copies of my speeches. this guy eeeem-h— him copies of my speeches. this guy eeeem-h eem— him copies of my speeches. this guy doesn't even work for hheeheemh— guy doesn't even work for president biden. and he's eemehe— president biden. and he's sending him _ president biden. and he's sending him copies of what he eee,— sending him copies of what he eehe, wheh— sending him copies of what he said, what delusions of grandeur. — said, what delusions of grandeur. congratulations on hhehg— grandeur. congratulations on finding hhe— grandeur. congratulations on finding the saloon. i'll tell you— finding the saloon. i'll tell you something.— finding the saloon. i'll tell you something. they've been trying— you something. they've been hmmg he— you something. they've been trying to destroy— you something. they've been trying to destroy him since he eme— trying to destroy him since he eee—e- trying to destroy him since he. said—a democrat. said he's no longer a democrat. hhey-ve— said he's no longer a democrat. hhey-ve hhee — said he's no longer a democrat. they've tried to—

said he's no longer a democrat. they've tried to.it- said he's no longer a democrat. they've tried to it for six they've tried to do it for six yeehe — they've tried to do it for six yeme they— they've tried to do it for six years. they have— they've tried to do it for six years. they have failed, and they— years. they have failed, and hey whhh— years. they have failed, and they will fail— years. they have failed, and they will fail again. and i will enjoy— they will fail again. and i will enjoy eememe— they will fail again. and i will enjoy sending you a copy of my eheeehee. — enjoy sending you a copy of my speeches. whoever— enjoy sending you a copy of my speeches. whoever you are . once speeches. whoever you are. once he-e— speeches. whoever you are. once he-e beeh— speeches. whoever you are. once he-e heeh h— speeches. whoever you are. once he's back in the— speeches. whoever you are. once he's back in the white house, as the he's back in the white house, as hhe hhhh— he's back in the white house, as hhe hhhh. happy— he's back in the white house, as the 47th. happy easter to you ehh. — the 47th. happy easter to you ehh. teeth.— the 47th. happy easter to you all. well, thank— the 47th. happy easter to you all. well, thank you- the 47th. happy easter to you all. well, thank you both ever so much for a robust debate. i really do appreciate you joining me for this show. thank you . me for this show. thank you. well, that was a lot of fun . well, that was a lot of fun. we're going to just do stick around there. we've got a lot more coming up on free speech nation. we've got social sensations. to be sensations. we're going to be turning uncle, we turning agony, uncle, as we solve dilemmas solve your unfiltered dilemmas with wonderful scott with my wonderful panel, scott capurro pearson . capurro and tobias pearson. don't anywhere .

welcome back to free speech nation. so every week we dedicate this part of the show to the world of social media. and first up, this video . this and first up, this video. this is a fox news guest making an on

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pockets before doing a wash. bic lighter. well, a little. maybe a lighter. do you think it was probably that. but that guy just got away, though. i mean, that's that's pretty scary stuff. like god, that was, well, really scary. do you think it was staged? really glorious. i'll never complain again. there's always missing. there's always one sock missing. yeah, didn't die. you yeah, but i didn't die. you didn't . scary stuff. didn't die exactly. scary stuff. now we've only— didn't die exactly. scary stuff. now we've only got- didn't die exactly. scary stuff. now we've only got a- t: t: .. e t: ti nee“; scary stuff. now we've only got a couple of mhuhee— now we've only got a couple of mhuhee hehh— now we've only got a couple of minutes left, but— now we've only got a couple of minutes left, but we do have htme— minutes left, but we do have htme he— minutes left, but we do have htme he hath— minutes left, but we do have time to talk through your unfiltered— time to talk through your. unfiltered _you've time to talk through your- unfiltered _you've been unfiltered dilemmas. you've been very— unfiltered dilemmas. you've been very hmhhv— unfiltered dilemmas. you've been very kindly emailing those as very kindly emailing those in as you very kindly emailing those in as veu ehveve— very kindly emailing those in as veu ehveve ee— very kindly emailing those in as you always do every week. thank you always do every week. thank vet—hhe— you for that. our first dilemma is you for that. our first dilemma te-sehhv— you for that. our first dilemma te-sehhv h— you for that. our first dilemma is-sally in denby.- you for that. our first dilemma is sally in denby. dale i is from sally in denby. dale i hevem-h— is from sally in denby. dale i haven't heard— is from sally in denby. dale i haven't heard of— is from sally in denby. dale i haven't heard of denby dale, but it haven't heard of denby dale, but th-tthe— haven't heard of denby dale, but th-hthe e— haven't heard of denby dale, but it-like a magical- haven't heard of denby dale, but it like a magical place . it sounds like a magical place. so it sounds like a magical place. ee-eeve— it sounds like a magical place. so - says, - recently - so sally says, i've recently heuehh— so sally says, i've recently heuehh e— so sally says, i've recently bought a house— so sally says, i've recently bought a house and i can just eheuh— bought a house and i can just about afford— bought a house and i can just about afford the— bought a house and i can just about afford the mortgage and htthe— about afford the mortgage and the t— about afford the mortgage and the t heve— about afford the mortgage and bills. i love my— about afford the mortgage and bills. i love my boyfriend and he eheve— bills. i love my boyfriend and he stays around— bills. i love my boyfriend and he stays around nights , but he stays around most nights, but he stays around most nights, but he-hvtee— he stays around most nights, but he-hvvtee e— he stays around most nights, but he-hvvtee e ehev- he stays around most nights, but he-hvvtee e ehev .- he stays around most nights, but he twice a day , always he showers twice a day, always vemhe— he showers twice a day, always vemhe he— he showers twice a day, always vemhe he eeeh— he showers twice a day, always wants to cook and— he showers twice a day, always wants to cook and turns the meme— wants to cook and turns the heehme he.— wants to cook and turns the heehme up-lyou- wants to cook and turns the heating up. you it heating up. do you think it vette— heating up. do you think it veuhh he— heating up. do you think it would be _order- heating up. do you think it would be order if i asked would be out of order if i asked htm— would be out of order if i asked him-contribute— would be out of order if i asked him .contribute to _ would be out of order if i asked him contribute to house's

him to contribute to house's upheehe— him to contribute to house's upkeep? t— him to contribute to house's upkeep? i thought just upkeep? i thought that's just ehvteue— upkeep? i thought that's just ehvteue-thh— upkeep? i thought that's just obvious,-it? i- upkeep? i thought that's just obvious, it? i think obvious, isn't it? i think hheh-e— obvious, isn't it? i think that's-fair.- obvious, isn't it? i think. that's-fair. yeah, obvious, isn't it? i think- that's-fair. yeah, but that's perfectly fair. yeah, but if that's perfectly fair. yeah, but th—hheml if he's always cooking, then me— if he's always cooking, then me tethe— if he's always cooking, then he's doing one— if he's always cooking, then he's doing one service for her. thee-e— he's doing one service for her. thee-e going— he's doing one service for her. thee-e heme-vee- he's doing one service for her. that's going _you a - he's doing one service for her. that's going-you a lot. that's going to cost you a lot of he's a hog it of money. but he's a hog when it comes to electricity. yeah, comes to the electricity. yeah, but he's but there's another service he's also doing. so to also should be doing. so to that's services. i don't know vvheh— that's services. i don't know vvheh-hehhhe- that's services. i don't know what-talking about. i what you're talking about. teeth.— what you're talking about. teeth-hhee— what you're talking about. i well,-know-mean. what you're talking about. - well,-know-mean. is well, you know what i mean. is that a service? well, it's that a service? yeah well, it's not relationship. job. not a relationship. it's a job. it's exhaling. but it's a job of exhaling. but i think probably. he's think he's probably. he's probably lot. i mean, think he's probably. he's protsounds lot. i mean, think he's probably. he's protsounds a lot. i mean, think he's probably. he's protsounds a bit lot. i mean, think he's probably. he's protsounds a bit annoying,in, she sounds a bit annoying, actually, well no, she's actually, but. well no, she's cheap greedy. she cheap cheap and greedy. she is cheap and greedy. no, she's lovely heeeuee— and greedy. no, she's lovely heeeuee-uh- and greedy. no, she's lovely because-up her. and greedy. no, she's lovely- because-up her town. because she made up her town. so because she made up her town. so she-e— because she made up her town. so ehe-e craz-v — because she made up her town. so she's crazy. she's— because she made up her town. so she's crazy. she's crazy- so she's crazy. she's crazy cheap greedy. she found cheap and greedy. and she found a cook for her. a guy who will cook for her. scott just alienating scott is just alienating my viewers don't viewers here, isn't it? i don't know to viewers here, isn't it? i don't hmevv he vheh— viewers here, isn't it? i don't know to what say. _ viewers here, isn't it? i don't know to what say. i- . ti e e?’ i don't know to what say. i mean, viewers here, isn't it? i don't know to what say. i mean, you know to what say. i mean, so you heeh— know to what say. i mean, so you heeh eh— know to what say. i mean, so you heeh eh htm — know to what say. i mean, so you heeh eh htm ee— know to what say. i mean, so you look at him as waiter or. look at him as a waiter or. teeth.— look at him as a waiter or. teeth. veeh— look at him as a waiter or. well, yeah, that's- look at him as a waiter or. well, yeah, that's not- look at him as a waiter or. well, yeah, that's not what how a . i wish it a relationship works. i wish it did. my husband— a relationship works. i wish it did. my husband sits- i wish it did. my husband sits around all day did. my husband sits around all eev—hei day long. i have to beg him to make— day long. i have to beg him to make-the— day long. i have to beg him to make it's impossible. make a meal. it's impossible. teeth.— make a meal. it's impossible. well, relationship should be well, a relationship should be a evemeehmee— well, a relationship should be a compromise. he— well, a relationship should be a compromise. he cooks and he, you knew.— compromise. he cooks and he, you knew. hheee— compromise. he cooks and he, you know, does whatever— compromise. he cooks and he, you know, does whatever he does to her. — know, does whatever he does to her. hme — know, does whatever he does to her. hme hhem— know, does whatever he does to her. and then, you— know, does whatever he does to her. and then, you know, so vvhehh— her. and then, you know, so vvhehh-hhe- her. and then, you know, so what? the heating her. and then, you know, so- what?-the heating bill. what? she pays the heating bill. it's what? she pays the heating bill. the—mem— what? she pays the heating bill. th-e—eheeh your- it's now become about your relationship. so let's not talk about a dilemma about that. i've got a dilemma

now anonymous . thanks for now from anonymous. thanks for writing anonymous and writing in anonymous and anonymous says , i've recently anonymous says, i've recently found out that my best friend's girlfriend is cheating on him. however, she is cheating on him with my drug dealer . most of my with my drug dealer. most of my friends don't know that i have an acute cocaine addiction and i can't tell my friend without outing myself. what do i do ? outing myself. what do i do? over to scott. yeah i kind of he— over to scott. yeah i kind of heeh hhe— over to scott. yeah i kind of feel like this— over to scott. yeah i kind of feel like this one— over to scott. yeah i kind of feel like this one might be made up- — feel like this one might be made up. hhee— feel like this one might be made he. the he— feel like this one might be made up. vvheh he vee— feel like this one might be made up. what do you think?- feel like this one might be made up. what do you think? yeah a little bit. and they know he's doing coke or she because tiny waist, right? so they can tell he's on some he or she is on some sort of cocaine diet. look, you should always tell your friend friend's friend if your friend's definitely cheating, definitely partner is cheating, you . hope don't you should. i hope they don't restrict from coming restrict albanians from coming in died last in because my dealer died last week. thanks for that, scott. week. so thanks for that, scott. i'm sorry for your loss. thank you. all i'm sorry for your loss. thank veu. hhh hem— i'm sorry for your loss. thank you. all right, let's- thank you. all right, let's move on to ehehheh— you. all right, let's move on to another-before- you. all right, let's move on to another before scott another dilemma before scott eehe— another dilemma before scott gets _trouble. - another dilemma before scott gets-trouble. this. another dilemma before scott gets trouble. i gets us into trouble. this is hem— gets us into trouble. this is from alexandra in south port. let's look . alexandra let's have a look. alexandra says in a whatsapp group says friends in a whatsapp group are very excited about are getting very excited about some sort of upcoming trip or holiday. only is i've holiday. only problem is i've not been invited . do i hope it's

not been invited. do i hope it's an oversight raise the issue an oversight and raise the issue or and possibly miss or keep quiet and possibly miss out ? tobias, or keep quiet and possibly miss out? tobias, what do? out? tobias, what would you do? i would do cocaine. no, no, no. stop i would do cocaine. no, no, no. shee shee— i would do cocaine. no, no, no. stop stop advocating- no, no, no. stop stop advocating drugs. i'm kidding— stop stop advocating drugs. i'm kidding .— stop stop advocating drugs. i'm kidding . he.— stop stop advocating drugs. i'm kidding. no,-do- stop stop advocating drugs. i'mi kidding. no,-do-no, kidding. no, don't do drugs. no, hem-h— kidding. no, don't do drugs. no, hem-h ee— kidding. no, don't do drugs. no, hem-h he huge.— kidding. no, don't do drugs. no, don't do drugs. just text them eme— don't do drugs. just text them and save— don't do drugs. just text them and eev. veh— don't do drugs. just text them and say, you know, hey, you heheeh— and say, you know, hey, you heveeh eheuh— and say, you know, hey, you forgot about me.— and say, you know, hey, you forgot about me. i think hemeehv. — forgot about me. i think hemeehv. t— forgot about me. i think honesty. i honesty is honesty. i think honesty is ehveve— honesty. i think honesty is ehveve hhe— honesty. i think honesty is always the way— honesty. i think honesty is always the way forward. ?: honesty. i think honesty is always the way forward. 3: 7’ always the way forward. right? no, always the way forward. right? he-eeh-h— always the way forward. right? no,-don't want- always the way forward. right? no,-don't want you . no, no. they don't want you here— no, no. they don't want you hhehelhem-h— no, no. they don't want you thereidon't-it- \tt:it they don't want you there don't it worse. no, no. they don't want you. thereidon't-it worse. it's there. don't make it worse. it's eheehv— there. don't make it worse. it's already awkward,— there. don't make it worse. it's already awkward, right? she's vhhhe— already awkward, right? she's writing strangers already awkward, right? she'si writing _strangers . writing to us. we're strangers. th-e— writing to us. we're strangers. the heady— writing to us. we're strangers. it's already completely. well ehe— it's already completely. well ehe eheuhe— it's already completely. well she should do— it's already completely. well she should do is— it's already completely. well she should do is get on a plane eme— she should do is get on a plane and-somewhere— she should do is get on a plane. and-somewhere-and and go somewhere by herself and meeh—eehuehhv- and go somewhere by herself and meet—actually like. meet people that actually like her. — meet people that actually like heh. ehev.— meet people that actually like her. okay, well,— meet people that actually like her. okay, well, look, that's all time for. thanks her. okay, well, look, that's all joining time for. thanks her. okay, well, look, that's all joining us time for. thanks her. okay, well, look, that's all joining us fore for. thanks her. okay, well, look, that's all joining us for free. thanks her. okay, well, look, that's all joining us for free speech; for joining us for free speech nation. this was week nation. this was the week when former was former president trump was indicted and anti—free speech activists in san francisco attacked a woman speaker and a sing along at a theatre, got out of to my panel and of hand. thanks to my panel and to my guests as well. and do if you want to join us live in the studio, part of wonderful studio, be part of our wonderful audience. just audience. you can do that. just go dot sro go to w—w—w dot sro audiences.com. so stay tuned for mark dolan tonight. that's next. and headliners is on at 11:00. the late night paper preview

show where comedians take you through the next day's top news stories. thanks for watching. free . good night. free speech nation. good night. woo hello there. very good evehtme— woo hello there. very good evemhe .— woo hello there. very good evening . hm— hello there. very good evening . i'm jonathan vautrey. evening. i'm jonathan vautrey. hete— evening. i'm jonathan vautrey. here he— evening. i'm jonathan vautrey. here he your— evening. i'm jonathan vautrey. here is your latest weather eeeehe— here is your latest weather heeehe hhem — here is your latest weather update from the met office we're eeehe— update from the met office we're eeemelehehee— update from the met office we're seeinglchange to— update from the met office we're seeing change to something seeing a change to something more _we head. more unsettled as we head hhheueheuh— more unsettled as we head throughout-and- more unsettled as we head throughout and over the throughout tonight and over the mexh— throughout tonight and over the mexh hevv— throughout tonight and over the mexh hev eave— throughout tonight and over the next few days as— throughout tonight and over the next few days as high pressure ehhhe—th-e- drifts its way off. it's ehhevhe— drifts its way off. it's allowing these weather fronts to drifts its way off. it's allovtpushing e weather fronts to drifts its way off. it's allovt pushing in veather fronts to drifts its way off. it's allovtpushing in from er fronts to drifts its way off. it's allovtpushing in from the onts to start pushing in from the hhhemhte— start pushing in from the atlantic-bring- start pushing in from the atlantic bring us these atlantic and bring us these ehehhe— atlantic and bring us these eeehhe eh— atlantic and bring us these spells of rain— atlantic and bring us these spells of rain and showers. the teehehe— spells of rain and showers. the teeheve ee— spells of rain and showers. the isobars are also— spells of rain and showers. the isobars are also squeezing heeehheh— isobars are also squeezing togetherlbit_ isobars are also squeezing together bit more . so we will together a bit more. so we will eehhehhv— together a bit more. so we will eehhehhv eee— together a bit more. so we will certainly see windy night to certainly see a windy night to come, particularly around eeeeheh— come, particularly around coastal scotland come, particularly around- coastal-scotland where come, particularly around- coastvis-scotland where come, particularly around coastvis the scotland where come, particularly around coastvis the risk scotland where come, particularly around coastvis the risk of otland where come, particularly around coastvis the risk of some where come, particularly around coastvis the risk of some galesz there is the risk of some gales . hhe— there is the risk of some gales . the-mevhe— there is the risk of some gales . the-moving from - there is the risk of some gales . the moving from northern . the rain moving from northern heheme— . the rain moving from northern heheme hhe— . the rain moving from northern ireland into western scotland, where— ireland into western scotland, where-he— ireland into western scotland, where-be heavy- ireland into western scotland, where be heavy for where it could be heavy for a htme. — where it could be heavy for a time. generally— where it could be heavy for a time. generally across england ehe— time. generally across england. ehe—ehe and wales the rain will come and go and wales the rain will come and $30-be— and wales the rain will come and ee-he e— and wales the rain will come and ee-he e hhh— and wales the rain will come and go-be a bit patchier. go and we'll be a bit patchier hhheueh— go and we'll be a bit patchier hhveueh-mtehh.— go and we'll be a bit patchier through night. clearer through the night. some clearer ehehhe— through the night. some clearer spells—ireland- spells for northern ireland and vveehem— spells for northern ireland and western - later- spells for northern ireland and western-later on,- spells for northern ireland and western later on, but western scotland later on, but hheh— western scotland later on, but that temperatures to that will allow temperatures to just that will allow temperatures to tueh-e— that will allow temperatures to tueh-e hhh— that will allow temperatures to just-a bit more- that will allow temperatures to just a bit more here. just drop off a bit more here. hheevhehe— just drop off a bit more here. elsewhere underneath the cloud, it's elsewhere underneath the cloud, th-e—mthe- elsewhere underneath the cloud, it's—mild night.- it's going to be a mild night. we it's going to be a mild night. the hem-h— it's going to be a mild night. the vveh-h eee— it's going to be a mild night. we won't see much lower than 9 or we won't see much lower than 9 e to c— we won't see much lower than 9 e to c ee— we won't see much lower than 9 or 10 c means it— we won't see much lower than 9 or 10 c means it also will be a eheuev— or 10 c means it also will be a eheuev ehehh— or 10 c means it also will be a eheuev ehehh he— or 10 c means it also will be a cloudy start to easter monday. the— cloudy start to easter monday. the veh— cloudy start to easter monday. the rain lingering across the eeuhheeeh— the rain lingering across the southeast until— the rain lingering across the

southeast until the afternoon, teeth.— southeast until the afternoon, teeth-hhee— southeast until the afternoon, really,-also across- really, and also across shetland. _ really, and also across shetland. behind that, we will see some sunny— shetland. behind that, we will see some sunny spells, but quite hheeuemh— see some sunny spells, but quite frequent showers— see some sunny spells, but quite frequent showers moving in as vett— frequent showers moving in as vehh .— frequent showers moving in as vehh . hheee— frequent showers moving in as well . these could— frequent showers moving in as well . these could be heavy in well. these could be heavy in hheee— well. these could be heavy in hheeee-heh- well. these could be heavy in places-risk of- well. these could be heavy in places risk of some places with the risk of some hath— places with the risk of some heth eme— places with the risk of some hail and thunder. temperatures ehtghhhv— hail and thunder. temperatures ehtghhhv eevm— hail and thunder. temperatures slightly down compared to smhev. — slightly down compared to sunday. .still- slightly down compared to sunday. still around sunday. it's still around eveeee— sunday. it's still around average-the- sunday. it's still around average the of sunday. it's still around- average .the -of year, average for the time of year, huh—hhh- average for the time of year, but—that freshi but there will be that fresh hheee— but there will be that fresh hheeee h— but there will be that fresh breeze in place— but there will be that fresh breeze in place well . showers breeze in place as well. showers eemhhuhe— breeze in place as well. showers continuing into— breeze in place as well. showers continuing into the— breeze in place as well. showers continuing into the evening, eemteuhehv— continuing into the evening, particularly the— continuing into the evening, particularly the northern half of particularly the northern half eh hhe— particularly the northern half eh hhe hh— particularly the northern half of the uk and— particularly the northern half of the uk and over the higher theme— of the uk and over the higher theme eh— of the uk and over the higher ground of scotland. they could be ground of scotland. they could hee-e— ground of scotland. they could he-e htme— ground of scotland. they could be-a time into- ground of scotland. they could be-a time into the. be wintry for a time into the eehhv— be wintry for a time into the eehhv-eh— be wintry for a time into the early-of tuesday. - be wintry for a time into the early of tuesday. the early hours of tuesday. the ehevvee— early hours of tuesday. the showers will— early hours of tuesday. the showers will tend to die their way— showers will tend to die their hey-hhh— showers will tend to die their way-bit-they'll. way off a bit more. they'll ehthh— way off a bit more. they'll still-scattering- way off a bit more. they'll still scattering in place still be a scattering in place as still be a scattering in place he vve ehehh— still be a scattering in place as we start off— still be a scattering in place as we start off the day . as we start off the day. eemehehtv— as we start off the day. generally some clearer spells to begin— generally some clearer spells to heeh vvthh— generally some clearer spells to begin vthh huh— generally some clearer spells to begin with, but we're then vehehhe— begin with, but we're then watching this— begin with, but we're then watching this rain as it starts euehhe— watching this rain as it starts euehmelhhem — watching this rain as it starts pushing from the southwest. pushing in from the southwest. eve-hh— pushing in from the southwest. teeth-hhe— pushing in from the southwest. we'll into southwest we'll move into southwest meteme— we'll move into southwest meteme .— we'll move into southwest england , wales northern england, wales and northern heheme— england, wales and northern hehemelhhe— england, wales and northern ireland the afternoon as ireland for the afternoon as vett— ireland for the afternoon as vehh. mmhe— ireland for the afternoon as well. turning quite damp and wet here.— well. turning quite damp and wet hehe. huh— well. turning quite damp and wet hehe. huh th-e— well. turning quite damp and wet here. but it's also— well. turning quite damp and wet here. but it's also going to be eeeemeemtee— here. but it's also going to be accompanied-a— here. but it's also going to be accompanied a squeeze in accompanied by a squeeze in hheee—hheh- accompanied by a squeeze in those—that is- accompanied by a squeeze in. those _that is what those isobars. and that is what eemte— those isobars. and that is what eeuhe bring— those isobars. and that is what could bring some— those isobars. and that is what could bring some quite disruptive— could bring some quite disruptive winds to western eheee-hh— disruptive winds to western eheee-uh .- disruptive winds to western areas-uk . so- disruptive winds to western areas uk . so we do have areas of the uk. so we do have vehhevv— areas of the uk. so we do have yellow weather— areas of the uk. so we do have yellow weather warnings in force for yellow weather warnings in force her-htehh— yellow weather warnings in force her-mtehh hhe— yellow weather warnings in force for night into wednesday for tuesday night into wednesday for tuesday night into wednesday heh hheh— for tuesday night into wednesday

for that possible— for tuesday night into wednesday for that possible disrupt an ehhehvtee— for that possible disrupt an otherwise it's— for that possible disrupt an otherwise it's looked as they ehevvehv— otherwise it's looked as they ehevvehv ee— otherwise it's looked as they ehevvehv ee ve— otherwise it's looked as they showery as we move into the eeeme— showery as we move into the eeeme hath— showery as we move into the second half of— showery as we move into the second half of the week as well

well . well. - welcome teeth.- welcome to teeth.— welcome to mark vvehh. — welcome to mark dolan tonight vthh— welcome to mark dolan tonight vthh me— welcome to mark dolan tonight with me stephen— welcome to mark dolan tonight with me stephen allen standing in with me stephen allen standing h hev— with me stephen allen standing h he hath— with me stephen allen standing in for mark on— with me stephen allen standing in for mark on this easter smhev. — in for mark on this easter sumhev. hhh— in for mark on this easter sunday. “n: : in for mark on this easter sunday. ' : i in for mark on this easter sunday. ' n: : 3:3 i in for mark on this easter- sunday. and once again, we have a great show lined up for you coming up the next two coming up over the next two hours. in my big opinion, as gazza and eubank come to gazza and chris eubank come to blows , i say reality has gone blows, i say reality tv has gone too far and it's our fault for enjoying the cruelty in the big story . labour have vowed to story. labour have vowed to continue controversial ad continue their controversial ad campaign, but have they gone too far this? and 25 years far with this? and 25 years after the signing of the good friday agreement, my big guest tonight northern irish tonight is northern irish politician peer, politician and life peer, baroness kate hoey. big guests , baroness kate hoey. big guests, big stories, big opinions, a

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