covid this time, but because of strikes . up covid this time, but because of strikes. up to covid this time, but because of strikes . up to 50% of doctors strikes. up to 50% of doctors are set to walk out this week. d0 are set to walk out this week. do you think this advice is an inqu do you think this advice is an insult or do you support the walkouts by doctors.7 let me know .then walkouts by doctors.7 let me know . then we're going to be talking about the bbc. is it the least biased outlet out there? i'm asking because elon musk, the

boss of twitter, has said so. do you agree? and there's been calls from campaigners to ban under sixteens from smartphones and slap tobacco style health warnings on the packaging. do you think that's the right idea? are our children too obsessed with their screens and who has come out worse from the labour ad campaign? the tories for not locking up enough criminals or the labour party for their dirty and underhand tactics. all of that to come tonight on dewbs& co here on gb news, britain's news channel. but first, let's get the latest headlines with polly middlehurst first . emily, polly middlehurst first. emily, thank you. the top— polly middlehurst first. emily, thank you. the top story- 3: emily, thank you. the top story at just after— thank you. the top story at just after 6:00— thank you. the top story at just after 6:00 on— thank you. the top story at just after 6:00 on gb— thank you. the top story at just after 6:00 on gb news politicians— after 6:00 on gb news politicians across northern ireland— politicians across northern ireland have— politicians across northern ireland have today condemn memed scenes of violence— ireland have today condemn memed scenes of violence after police came under attack in londonderry . us— came under attack in londonderry . us was— came under attack in londonderry . us .— came under attack in londonderry . us . n...— came under attack in londonderry . us was . the star— came under attack in londonderry . us was . the star well, the . us was. the star well, the

psm — . us was. the star well, the psm has— . us was. the star well, the psni has appealed for calm after missiles— psni has appealed for calm after missiles including— psni has appealed for calm after missiles including petrol bombs, thrown— missiles including petrol bombs, were thrown at— missiles including petrol bombs, were thrown at a— missiles including petrol bombs, were thrown at a police car during— were thrown at a police car during an— were thrown at a police car during an illegal anti—republican march. the during an illegal— anti—republican march. the force has been— anti—republican march. the force has been on— anti—republican march. the force has been on high— anti—republican march. the force has been on high alert after the terror— has been on high alert after the terror threat— has been on high alert after the terror threat was— has been on high alert after the terror threat was raised following— terror threat was raised following warnings of possible attacke— following warnings of possible attacks on — following warnings of possible attacks on officers. the violence— attacks on officers. the violence comes ahead of rishi suneke— violence comes ahead of rishi suneke vee— violence comes ahead of rishi sunaks visit to _ violence comes ahead of rishi sunaks visit to belfast tomorrow. _ sunaks visit to belfast tomorrow. he's going to be hosting— tomorrow. he's going to be heeeing the— tomorrow. he's going to be hosting the us— tomorrow. he's going to be hosting the us president, joe bid...— hosting the us president, joe eieen, ee— hosting the us president, joe biden, to mark— hosting the us president, joe biden, to mark the 25th anniversary— biden, to mark the 25th anniversary of the good friday ag...mem_ anniversary of the good friday agreement .— anniversary of the good friday agreement . now— anniversary of the good friday agreement . now the mother of two agreement. now the mother of two british— agreement. now the mother of two british israeli— agreement. now the mother of two british israeli sisters— agreement. now the mother of two british israeli sisters who were killed— british israeli sisters who were killed in— british israeli sisters who were killed in e— british israeli sisters who were killed in a west— british israeli sisters who were killed in a west bank attack has died— killed in a west bank attack has died in— killed in a west bank attack has died in hospital.— killed in a west bank attack has died in hospital. lucy dee was travelling— died in hospital. lucy dee was travelling with— died in hospital. lucy dee was travelling with her daughters, meye— travelling with her daughters, meye ene— travelling with her daughters, maya and rina,— travelling with her daughters, maya and rina, who were 20 and 15 maya and rina, who were 20 and es years— maya and rina, who were 20 and es yeere ete— maya and rina, who were 20 and 15 years old when— maya and rina, who were 20 and 15 years old when their car was targeted— 15 years old when their car was eergeeee by— 15 years old when their car was targeted by suspected palestinian - targeted by suspected palestinian gunmen. a funeral hete— palestinian gunmen. a funeral hem fer— palestinian gunmen. a funeral was held for the— palestinian gunmen. a funeral was held for the sisters on friday.— was held for the sisters on friday. their— was held for the sisters on friday. their father and lucy's husband— friday. their father and lucy's husband .— friday. their father and lucy's husband , rabbi— friday. their father and lucy's husband , rabbi leo dee, says his husband, rabbi leo dee, says his family— husband, rabbi leo dee, says his family ef— husband, rabbi leo dee, says his family of seven— husband, rabbi leo dee, says his family of seven has— husband, rabbi leo dee, says his family of seven has now been reduced— family of seven has now been reduced ee— family of seven has now been reduced to four. _ family of seven has now been reduced to four. the israeli flag— reduced to four. the israeli flag aeaay— reduced to four. the israeli flag today sent— reduced to four. the israeli flag today sent out a message to humanity,— flag today sent out a message to humanity, which— flag today sent out a message to humanity, which is—

flag today sent out a message to humanity, which is we will never accept— humanity, which is we will never accept terra— humanity, which is we will never accept terror as— humanity, which is we will never accept terror as legitimate. we; accept terror as legitimate. we wau— accept terror as legitimate. we nru near— accept terror as legitimate. we will never blame— accept terror as legitimate. we will never blame the- accept terror as legitimate. we will never blame the murder on the victims. there is no such thing as moral equivalence between terrorist and victim. the terrorist is always bad . the terrorist is always bad. now, in the united states , five now, in the united states, five neopre— now, in the united states, five people nave— now, in the united states, five people have been— now, in the united states, five people have been killed by a gunman— people have been killed by a gunman rn— people have been killed by a gunman in kentucky shortly after eennrnrna— gunman in kentucky shortly after eennrnrng ane— gunman in kentucky shortly after confirming the incident in rearevrue— confirming the incident in louisville .— confirming the incident in louisville . police said the louisville. police said the arraeker— louisville. police said the attacker had— louisville. police said the attacker had been neutralised ana— attacker had been neutralised and ne— attacker had been neutralised and ne ranger— attacker had been neutralised and no longer posed a threat to the and no longer posed a threat to rne nanue — and no longer posed a threat to rne panne- sn— and no longer posed a threat to the public. six other people being— the public. six other people being treated— the public. six other people being treated in— the public. six other people being treated in hospital. the nenraeky— being treated in hospital. the kentucky governor andy beshear, says— kentucky governor andy beshear, eaye ar— kentucky governor andy beshear, eaye ar reana— kentucky governor andy beshear, says at least one— kentucky governor andy beshear, says at least one police officer injured— says at least one police officer injured . — says at least one police officer was injured . and— says at least one police officer was injured. and i- says at least one police officer was injured . 'r: wig was injured. and i have a very close friend that didn't make it today. close friend that didn't make it today . and i have another close today. and i have another close friend who didn't either, and one who's at the hospital all that i hope is going to make it through. i want people to know that while today is a horrific act, i do believe that this is a safe community with officers doing their very best each and every day. and that's what we saw here. here nhs england says

emergency— saw here. here nhs england says emergency are— saw here. here nhs england says emergency care will— saw here. here nhs england says emergency care will be- emergency care will be prioritised— emergency care will be prioritised during the junior demen— prioritised during the junior doctors strike.— prioritised during the junior doctors strike. the four day warmer,— doctors strike. the four day walkout, which _ doctors strike. the four day walkout, which begins tomorrow morning— walkout, which begins tomorrow mernrng, re— walkout, which begins tomorrow morning, is being— walkout, which begins tomorrow morning, is being described as the morning, is being described as rne mee— morning, is being described as the most disruptive industrial amen— the most disruptive industrial aenen m— the most disruptive industrial action in nhs— the most disruptive industrial action in nhs history. the man— action in nhs history. the man body— action in nhs history. the health body warns the dispute pav— health body warns the dispute pay mu— health body warns the dispute over pay will mean appointments and eneranene— over pay will mean appointments and operations will— over pay will mean appointments and operations will have to be eaneeuea— and operations will have to be cancelled and— and operations will have to be cancelled and there'll be immense pressure on both staff ana— immense pressure on both staff and services— immense pressure on both staff and services .— immense pressure on both staff and services . as— immense pressure on both staff and services . as labour says , it and services. as labour says, it mane— and services. as labour says, it mane re— and services. as labour says, it plans to launch— and services. as labour says, it plans to launch more ads arraemng— plans to launch more ads attacking the— plans to launch more ads attacking the prime minister the near— attacking the prime minister the near ne— attacking the prime minister the next one blaming— attacking the prime minister the next one blaming him for mamma— next one blaming him for crashing the— next one blaming him for crashing the economy. the labour reader— crashing the economy. the labour reaaer nae— crashing the economy. the labour leader has defended the first peer— leader has defended the first peer raraenng — leader has defended the first post targeting rishi sunak erg, nnren— post targeting rishi sunak erg, nnren eaggeere— post targeting rishi sunak erg, which suggests he doesn't want enra— which suggests he doesn't want enrra eer— which suggests he doesn't want child sex abusers— which suggests he doesn't want child sex abusers to go to jail. wanna— child sex abusers to go to jail. wanna m— child sex abusers to go to jail. writing in the— child sex abusers to go to jail. writing in the daily mail, sir nem— writing in the daily mail, sir keir starmer_ writing in the daily mail, sir keir starmer says he makes zero aneregree— keir starmer says he makes zero aperegree rer— keir starmer says he makes zero apologies for the— keir starmer says he makes zero apologies for the ad . that's apologies for the ad. that's aeemre— apologies for the ad. that's despite criticism from mps , despite criticism from mps, meaning— despite criticism from mps, including those _ despite criticism from mps, including those from his own party— including those from his own parry men— including those from his own parry nrrn rere— including those from his own party with lord david blunkett earring— party with lord david blunkett earring n— party with lord david blunkett calling it gutter— party with lord david blunkett calling it gutter politics. snaaen— calling it gutter politics. shadow attorney general emily rnernnerm— shadow attorney general emily rnernnerm ears— shadow attorney general emily thornberry says the criminal r-aenee— thornberry says the criminal raerree ererem— thornberry says the criminal justice system is— thornberry says the criminal justice system is lacking . ” justice system is lacking. keir srarmer— justice system is lacking. keir

srarmer nas— justice system is lacking. keir starmer has made— justice system is lacking. keir starmer has made it- justice system is lacking. keir starmer has made it his. he's dedicated his life to ensuring that the criminal justice system works properly and he feels very strongly about this and is being very blunt about it. and yeah, we stand by this. if rishi sunak really wanted to stop child sex offenders from staying out of jail, he could do something about it. but he is not doing anything about it. they are not taking their failures seriously and they should be doing a great deal more than they are . people deal more than they are. people receiving the state pension will see their payments increase by 10.1% from today . the move was 10.1% from today. the move was confirmed— 10.1% from today. the move was confirmed by— 10.1% from today. the move was confirmed by the _ �*0 : the move was confirmed by the chancellor , confirmed by the chancellor, jeremy— confirmed by the chancellor, jeremy nann— confirmed by the chancellor, jeremy hunt, in— confirmed by the chancellor, jeremy hunt, in the autumn sraremenr— jeremy hunt, in the autumn searemenr .— jeremy hunt, in the autumn statement . depending on the statement. depending on the pension— statement. depending on the pension weekly— statement. depending on the pension weekly payments will nee— pension weekly payments will re— pension weekly payments will rise to either— pension weekly payments will rise to either .— pension weekly payments will rise to either . 156 pension weekly payments will rise to either. 156 or pension weekly payments will rise to either . 156 or £203. as rise to either. 156 or £203. as to rise to either. 156 or £203. as re eumare— rise to either. 156 or £203. as to climate change, protesters nave— to climate change, protesters nave been— to climate change, protesters have been arrested afterjumping a name— have been arrested afterjumping a barrier er— have been arrested afterjumping a barrier of a— have been arrested afterjumping a barrier of a dinosaur display in cavenrry— a barrier of a dinosaur display in cavenrry .— a barrier of a dinosaur display in coventry . the— a barrier of a dinosaur display in coventry . the just stop oil in coventry. the just stop oil aerrvrere— in coventry. the just stop oil activists entered— in coventry. the just stop oil activists entered the exhibition at activists entered the exhibition ar rne — activists entered the exhibition at the herbert—

activists entered the exhibition at the herbert art gallery and museum— at the herbert art gallery and museum before— at the herbert art gallery and museum before being tackled by eeeanry. — museum before being tackled by eeeanry. me— museum before being tackled by security. the protesters were named— security. the protesters were named by— security. the protesters were named by ene— security. the protesters were named by the group as daniel merr— named by the group as daniel nnerr ana— named by the group as daniel knorr and victoria linsell were arreerea— knorr and victoria linsell were arreerea en— knorr and victoria linsell were arrested on suspicion of causing enmrnar— arrested on suspicion of causing criminal damage.— arrested on suspicion of causing criminal damage. west midlands pence— criminal damage. west midlands name says— criminal damage. west midlands name says n— criminal damage. west midlands police says it seized two large bage— police says it seized two large rage er— police says it seized two large bags or ery— police says it seized two large bags of dry paint— police says it seized two large bags of dry paint. police says it seized two large bags of dry paint . and just bags of dry paint. and just merry,— bags of dry paint. and just raerry, ne— bags of dry paint. and just lastly, new details have been wnwerrea— lastly, new details have been unveiled about— lastly, new details have been unveiled about the kings coronation,— unveiled about the kings coronation, including the procession— coronation, including the procession route through central lennon.— procession route through central london. king— procession route through central london. king charles and the queen— london. king charles and the queen consort— london. king charles and the queen consort will be travelling to westminster— queen consort will be travelling to westminster abbey in the diamond— to westminster abbey in the diamond jubilee state . coach, diamond jubilee state. coach, mar-e— diamond jubilee state. coach, rnar-e a— diamond jubilee state. coach, that's a modern,— diamond jubilee state. coach, that's a modern, air conditioned , none— that's a modern, air conditioned , neree drawn— that's a modern, air conditioned , horse drawn carriage and rney-u— , horse drawn carriage and rney-u amy— , horse drawn carriage and they'll only ride in the less comfortable— they'll only ride in the less comfortable gold carriage first need,— comfortable gold carriage first used, incidentally, in 1831 for king— used, incidentally, in 1831 for mng warran— used, incidentally, in 1831 for king william, the fourth on merr— king william, the fourth on their return— king william, the fourth on their return journey . the crown their return journey. the crown r-ewere— their return journey. the crown r-ewere wru— their return journey. the crown jewels will also _ their return journey. the crown jewels will also feature during the jewels will also feature during we service,— jewels will also feature during the service, including the eewererng— the service, including the sovereign sceptre. camilla, memen— sovereign sceptre. camilla, rnewgnwru— sovereign sceptre. camilla, though, will all— sovereign sceptre. camilla, though, will all hold the queen cannon-e— though, will all hold the queen caneen-e rea— though, will all hold the queen consort's rod, which is controversially made from ivory . raw-re— controversially made from ivory . van-re an— controversially made from ivory .vew-re an re— controversially made from ivory . you're up to date— controversially made from ivory . you're up to date on tv, .you're up to date on tv, ename— .you're up to date on tv, online, dab+_ .you're up to date on tv, online, dab+ radio and on the rwnern— online, dab+ radio and on the rwnern app.—

online, dab+ radio and on the tunein app. this— online, dab+ radio and on the tunein app. this is gb news. now back— tunein app. this is gb news. now back re— tunein app. this is gb news. now back re .— back to. emily us— back to. emily us. - back to. emily us . f back to. emily- us . welcome to back to. emily us . welcome to dewbs & co with us. welcome to dewbs& co with me, emily, carmen now joining me until seven my panel. joe phillips, political commentator. thank you for coming back. and martin daubney the journalist and former brexit party mep. good evening to you both and good evening to you at home. you can get in touch with us about all tonight's topics this all of tonight's topics this evening gb views at evening on gb views at gbnews.uk. i want to start with this rather bizarre advice that we're being given once again by the nhs, by the nhs chiefs, that we should avoid risky behaviour and avoid putting extra pressure on the nhs . martin what do you on the nhs. martin what do you think about this? it's not the first time we've been asked to avoid using our health service. i don't know about you, but if i am about to have a heart attack or a motorcycle accident, i tend

to plan it. and so i tend to knew— to plan it. and so i tend to knew wnen— to plan it. and so i tend to know when that's- c and so i tend to know when that's going to happen to know when that's going to happen re me— know when that's going to happen re wer— know when that's going to happen re war ana— know when that's going to happen to me. not and don't you think anar— to me. not and don't you think rnar eme— to me. not and don't you think that this this— to me. not and don't you think that this this this— to me. not and don't you think that this this this bizarre eeneenr— that this this this bizarre concept that— that this this this bizarre concept that it's our job to weren— concept that it's our job to protect me — concept that it's our job to protect the nhs as opposed to the protect the nhs as opposed to me wns— protect the nhs as opposed to me wns job— protect the nhs as opposed to me wns ien re— protect the nhs as opposed to the nhs job to protect us? don't ranger,— the nhs job to protect us? don't ranger-enm— the nhs job to protect us? don't forget,-often said— the nhs job to protect us? don't forget, often said it's forget, it's often said it's nee.— forget, it's often said it's nee-iner— forget, it's often said it's free. .not free. - forget, it's often said it's free. not free. we pay for free. it's not free. we pay for it free. it's not free. we pay for n wren— free. it's not free. we pay for it man ear— free. it's not free. we pay for it with our stamp— free. it's not free. we pay for it with our stamp and every it with our stamp and tax every menrn— it with our stamp and tax every month .taxpayers_ it with our stamp and tax every month taxpayers and you know, month as taxpayers and you know, mere-e— month as taxpayers and you know, mere-e ame— month as taxpayers and you know, there's this sense,— month as taxpayers and you know, there's this sense, i— month as taxpayers and you know, there's this sense, i think, of a sense of entitlement a growing sense of entitlement anar— a growing sense of entitlement mar-au— a growing sense of entitlement mar-arr mae— a growing sense of entitlement that all must defer to the that we all must defer to the nary— that we all must defer to the may emer— that we all must defer to the my enter an— that we all must defer to the holy order of the— that we all must defer to the holy order of the and the holy order of the nhs and the pay— holy order of the nhs and the pay aemana— holy order of the nhs and the pay demand itself. 35% pay aemana— pay demand itself. 35% pay aemana re— pay demand itself. 35% pay demand is just— pay demand itself. 35% pay demand is just that's a stuff of fantasy— demand is just that's a stuff of fantasy .— demand is just that's a stuff of ranraey . mar— demand is just that's a stuff of fantasy . that would be £2 fantasy. that would be £2 mutan— fantasy. that would be £2 muren ner— fantasy. that would be £2 billion per year every year in nernerwrry— billion per year every year in perpetuity .— billion per year every year in perpetuity . where's that meant perpetuity. where's that meant to perpetuity. where's that meant re earne— perpetuity. where's that meant to come from?— perpetuity. where's that meant to come from? the british wearear— to come from? the british medical association, i think is becoming— medical association, i think is becoming overtly— medical association, i think is becoming overtly political. mere-e— becoming overtly political. rnere-e a— becoming overtly political. there's a general election coming-— there's a general election eemrna. rney— there's a general election coming. they want to damage the rates— coming. they want to damage the renee ae— coming. they want to damage the renee as mean— coming. they want to damage the tories as much possible. tories as much as possible. rney-re— tories as much as possible. rney-re a— tories as much as possible. they're a bunch— tories as much as possible. they're a bunch of lefty aenwere— they're a bunch of lefty activists at— they're a bunch of lefty activists at the bma, let's face it. activists at the bma, let's face in ear— activists at the bma, let's face in ear eme— activists at the bma, let's face it. but this idea— activists at the bma, let's face it. but this idea that we must rne— it. but this idea that we must rne-reee— it. but this idea that we must use the-less so- it. but this idea that we must use the less so doctors can use the nhs less so doctors can nave— use the nhs less so doctors can nave a— use the nhs less so doctors can nave a day— use the nhs less so doctors can nave a day an— use the nhs less so doctors can have a day off is— use the nhs less so doctors can have a day off is for the birds. do have a day off is for the birds. no you— have a day off is for the birds. no you ee— have a day off is for the birds. no you n— have a day off is for the birds. do you see it that— have a day off is for the birds. do you see it that way?- have a day off is for the birds. do you see it that way? do you think there's some truth to perhaps bma radicalising perhaps the bma radicalising some of these doctors? i don't

believe that they would have taken type action only a taken this type of action only a few years ago. well only a few years ago before covid, perhaps, emily. before they were all anaer— emily. before they were all under swan— emily. before they were all under such huge— can before they were all under such huge pressure , before under such huge pressure, before rney-we— under such huge pressure, before rney-we een— under such huge pressure, before rney-we ee— under such huge pressure, before they've seen so many of their mne— they've seen so many of their number leaving— they've seen so many of their number leaving after a rerarwery— number leaving after a relatively short time in the service— relatively short time in the service .— relatively short time in the service . r— relatively short time in the service . i mean, there's service. i mean, there's eemernrng— service. i mean, there's something in- service. i mean, there's something in one of the papers reaay— something in one of the papers reaay anar— something in one of the papers reaay rnar rne— something in one of the papers today that the exodus of nhs seam— today that the exodus of nhs staff, doctors— today that the exodus of nhs staff, doctors to _ today that the exodus of nhs staff, doctors to australia is at we— staff, doctors to australia is at its highest— staff, doctors to australia is at its highest level. meanwhile trying— at its highest level. meanwhile rryrng re— at its highest level. meanwhile we're trying to recruit parameare— we're trying to recruit paramedic acas from australia. it's paramedic acas from australia. we aneerare— paramedic acas from australia. it's absolute ridiculous and i mink— it's absolute ridiculous and i rnrnw rr-e— it's absolute ridiculous and i think it's fair— it's absolute ridiculous and i think it's fair to— it's absolute ridiculous and i think it's fair to say that they are under pressure . i agree with are under pressure. i agree with wanin— are under pressure. i agree with warm mar— are under pressure. i agree with martin that 35%— are under pressure. i agree with martin that 35% is— are under pressure. i agree with martin that 35% is absolute . you martin that 35% is absolute. you knew,— martin that 35% is absolute. you knew, me— martin that 35% is absolute. you know, it's unfeasible pie in the ery— know, it's unfeasible pie in the my. rean— know, it's unfeasible pie in the my. wean rr-e— know, it's unfeasible pie in the sky. yeah, it's pie— know, it's unfeasible pie in the sky. yeah, it's pie in the sky. nar— sky. yeah, it's pie in the sky. ear rne— sky. yeah, it's pie in the sky. but the government and the wearers— but the government and the doctors union— but the government and the doctors union need to sit down wnerner— doctors union need to sit down wnerner rney— doctors union need to sit down whether they do _ doctors union need to sit down whether they do it— doctors union need to sit down whether they do it together or rney— whether they do it together or rney ea — whether they do it together or rney are n— whether they do it together or they do it through acas. the advice— they do it through acas. the advice reconciliation, conciliation- advice reconciliation, conciliation service that has you— conciliation service that has you knew,— conciliation service that has you knew, yew— conciliation service that has you know, you don't hear very mwen— you know, you don't hear very mean an— you know, you don't hear very much of these— you know, you don't hear very much of these days, but was arwaye— much of these days, but was always around— much of these days, but was always around to— much of these days, but was always around to solve and help earr— always around to solve and help een ear— always around to solve and help sort out industrial— always around to solve and help

sort out industrial disputes . sort out industrial disputes. nar— sort out industrial disputes. ear re— sort out industrial disputes. ear re ge— sort out industrial disputes. but to go back— sort out industrial disputes. but to go back to your original perm— but to go back to your original perm aneur— but to go back to your original point about, you— but to go back to your original point about, you know, telling reame— point about, you know, telling people ner— point about, you know, telling people not re— point about, you know, telling people not to do— point about, you know, telling people not to do risky things, i den-r— people not to do risky things, i aen-r mink— people not to do risky things, i don't think people think, oh , don't think people think, oh, war,— don't think people think, oh, weu, rne— don't think people think, oh, well, the doctors— don't think people think, oh, well, the doctors are on strike. i well, the doctors are on strike. r wen-r— well, the doctors are on strike. r wen-r ge— well, the doctors are on strike. r want are an.— well, the doctors are on strike. iwon't go up. and,— well, the doctors are on strike. i won't go up. and, you know , i won't go up. and, you know, aeeerare— i won't go up. and, you know, decorate that— i won't go up. and, you know, decorate that top— i won't go up. and, you know, decorate that top floor window. but decorate that top floor window. ear r— decorate that top floor window. ear r we — decorate that top floor window. but i do think— decorate that top floor window. but i do think there is an eremenr— but i do think there is an element of— but i do think there is an element of saying to people and in a— element of saying to people and in a way,— element of saying to people and in a way, yew— element of saying to people and in a way, you know— element of saying to people and in a way, you know , people do in a way, you know, people do rake— in a way, you know, people do take rne— in a way, you know, people do take the nhs— in a way, you know, people do take the nhs for— in a way, you know, people do take the nhs for granted and a lot take the nhs for granted and a war er— take the nhs for granted and a war or reame— take the nhs for granted and a lot of people use— take the nhs for granted and a lot of people use a&e instead of going— lot of people use a&e instead of going re— lot of people use a&e instead of gang re rne— lot of people use a&e instead of going to the doctor, the anarmaey— going to the doctor, the pharmacy trying to work it out for themselves— pharmacy trying to work it out for themselves . _ pharmacy trying to work it out for themselves . for themselves. so you think this advice has fields every day of the year ? well, yes, of the year? well, yes, aerwauy. — of the year? well, yes, aerwauy. r— of the year? well, yes, actually. i mean,- pie”? well, yes, actually. i mean, be sensible . actually. i mean, be sensible. i'll actually. i mean, be sensible. r-u amy— actually. i mean, be sensible. r-u enry ge— actually. i mean, be sensible. r-u any are re— actually. i mean, be sensible. i'll only go to a&e when it's an academ— i'll only go to a&e when it's an accident er— i'll only go to a&e when it's an accident or an— i'll only go to a&e when it's an accident or an emergency . you accident or an emergency. you nan-r— accident or an emergency. you aen-r rearw— accident or an emergency. you don't really need— accident or an emergency. you don't really need to lay it in. ear— don't really need to lay it in. ear yew— don't really need to lay it in. em you knew,— don't really need to lay it in. but you know, people do sometimes— but you know, people do sometimes need to. that is true. nar— sometimes need to. that is true. nae rne— sometimes need to. that is true. nm are premen— sometimes need to. that is true. but the problem is,— sometimes need to. that is true. but the problem is, is— sometimes need to. that is true. but the problem is, is that- sometimes need to. that is true. but the problem is, is that you can't always get a gp appointment. we've seen headline after we've after headline and we've experienced i'm experienced it. our selves, i'm sure hand how difficult it sure first hand how difficult it is to get one of them. i think most is to get one of them. i think meer reente— is to get one of them. i think most people have— is to get one of them. i think most people have given- gr: i think most people have given up trying to most people have given up trying re aer— most people have given up trying re ger wearers— most people have given up trying to get doctors appointment and the to get doctors appointment and rne-rne— to get doctors appointment and the-the quickest- to get doctors appointment and the the quickest way of the most the quickest way of gearing—renal

the most the quickest way of getting—point in| getting a gp to the point in eman— getting a gp to the point in britain seems— getting a gp to the point in britain seems be come in britain seems to be to come in onlrubber_ britain seems to be to come in onlrubber dinghy— britain seems to be to come in on rubber dinghy from france on a rubber dinghy from france ana— on a rubber dinghy from france and-ename- on a rubber dinghy from france and-straight and- on a rubber dinghy from france and straight and look and you'd be straight and look at rne— and you'd be straight and look at me reame— and you'd be straight and look at the people in— and you'd be straight and look at the people in skegness who came— at the people in skegness who cant ger— at the people in skegness who can't get l doctor _ at the people in skegness who can't get doctor appointment can't get a doctor appointment in can't get a doctor appointment rann—w weul in skegness right now. well i nape— in skegness right now. well i nape-myrna- in skegness right now. well i hope-winglgoi in skegness right now. well ii hope-twinglgo to hope she's not trying to go to a nearer-e— hope she's not trying to go to a doctor's appointment. she's in a r ner— doctor's appointment. she's in a caravan. i bet it's windy and cold there, i should say. michelle will be back cold there, i should say. - michelle will be back tomorrow evening. — michelle will be back tomorrow evening. la— michelle will be back tomorrow evening..a point— michelle will be back tomorrow evening. a point you made. evening. so a point you made. rune—rne- evening. so a point you made. tune _the point. evening. so a point you made.i tune _the point you tune in to that. the point you made about about taking the nhs for i think the nhs for granted. i think the nhs takes public granted. takes the public for granted. actually like we're meant actually it's like we're meant to unwavering supporters. actually it's like we're meant to not avering supporters. actually it's like we're meant to not meant supporters. actually it's like we're meant to not meant torpporters. actually it's like we're meant to not meant to question we're not meant to question the rhetoric. we're to rhetoric. we're not meant to question the endless pay rises we question strikes we want to question strikes which could see people die. let's if doctors are let's face it, if doctors are striking is this is a life striking this is this is a life threatening. well, the point of risk, a whole load of things in that, martin. i think people i mink— that, martin. i think people i rnrnw rne— that, martin. i think people i think the nhs— that, martin. i think people i think the nhs-to- swift " i think people i think the nhs to change think the nhs needs to change for ana— think the nhs needs to change for sure, and i— think the nhs needs to change for sure, and i-it- think the nhs needs to change for sure, and i it needs for sure, and i think it needs to for sure, and i think it needs re re— for sure, and i think it needs re re entree.— for sure, and i think it needs to be stopped. you know, need to be stopped. you know, we need to be stopped. you know, we need rye-naming— to be stopped. you know, we need re-nerarnglrn— to be stopped. you know, we need to-holdinglin this- to be stopped. you know, we need to holding in this sort to stop holding it in this sort of-aspic_ to stop holding it in this sort er-aeme er— to stop holding it in this sort of aspic of something that of holy aspic of something that canner— of holy aspic of something that eanner-mwer- of holy aspic of something that cannot must always be cannot change, must always be the cannot change, must always be rne-.— cannot change, must always be rne-. vea— cannot change, must always be the-. you know,-a- cannot change, must always be the . you know, a bit the same. you know, it's a bit we— the same. you know, it's a bit twe-rmnw— the same. you know, it's a bit like-think, oh,- the same. you know, it's a bit like-think, oh, we- the same. you know, it's a bit like think, oh, we want like people think, oh, we want a name— like people think, oh, we want a name rake— like people think, oh, we want a hattie jake style— like people think, oh, we want a hattie jake style matron back in cottage— hattie jake style matron back in cottage-nar— hattie jake style matron back in cottage-but.also. cottage hospital, but we also wanr— cottage hospital, but we also want complicated and want incredibly complicated and

high— want incredibly complicated and high reen— want incredibly complicated and high reen surgery— want incredibly complicated and high tech surgery for free tomorrow. it— high tech surgery for free tomorrow. it would be nice, memen— tomorrow. it would be nice, rnewgn n— tomorrow. it would be nice, though, if the— tomorrow. it would be nice, though, if the bma was involved in constructive _ though, if the bma was involved in constructive talks about how to in constructive talks about how re improve— in constructive talks about how re rmprewe rne— in constructive talks about how to improve the nhs because there is an— to improve the nhs because there is an many,— to improve the nhs because there is an many, ten-r— to improve the nhs because there is an irony, isn't there? necaaee— is an irony, isn't there? because the— is an irony, isn't there? because the junior- is an irony, isn't there? because the junior doctors, they stand there saying how fantastic the nhs is, universal health care free at the point of use. but then we hear so much about doctors leaving to go to australia, which has a system of social insurance. yeah. and moving to even the us where they have a very unfair health service. yeah and you can understand— service. yeah and you can understand why- service. yeah and you can understand why if- rtrzi; “43?“ and you can understand why if people get eemrrerery— understand why if people get completely and— understand why if people get completely and utterly burnt out wren— completely and utterly burnt out man rne— completely and utterly burnt out with the overload— completely and utterly burnt out with the overload and i mean the werkreaa— with the overload and i mean the wheat rn— with the overload and i mean the workload in hospital, it's also for an— workload in hospital, it's also for an increased— workload in hospital, it's also for an increased pay offer arrear— for an increased pay offer anreaa . — for an increased pay offer abroad . it's— for an increased pay offer abroad . e " ”oi abroad. it's often more attractive to take years of taxpayer funded in job training. junior doctors are paid less. but after three years, their pay goes up substantially. it could be on 80 grand. after five years, that's a great salary for most ordinary people to gauge by, but they're getting taxpayer funded training. then funded training. and then the clearing off to australia because the weather's better and

the and what about the pay's better. and what about our on, on on on our dependence on, on on on doctors that we're doctors and nurses that we're taking the third world, taking from the third world, from uganda, from from places like uganda, from places where places like india, where brain drain their best talent way drain in their best talent way because they get less money, whereas off to whereas ours are clearing off to australia because they more australia because they want more money. so we need to have a fundamental and i think successive governments of either colour have actually refused to deal with this and talk about how you do it. i mean, patricia hahn,— how you do it. i mean, patricia hahn, rne— how you do it. i mean, patricia hewitt, the former— r:rtr e i mean, patricia hewitt, the former labour health secretary, — hewitt, the former labour health secretary, nae— hewitt, the former labour health secretary, has been asked by the government— secretary, has been asked by the government to _ secretary, has been asked by the government to do— secretary, has been asked by the government to do a report and men— government to do a report and she's come out— government to do a report and she's come out with some interim nnarnge— she's come out with some interim nnarnge ana— she's come out with some interim findings. and one— she's come out with some interim findings. and one of— she's come out with some interim findings. and one of them is aren— findings. and one of them is erer nawng— findings. and one of them is stop having targets, stop having national targets, make— stop having national targets, make n— stop having national targets, make it much— stop having national targets, make it much more local because depending— make it much more local because depending en— make it much more local because depending on where you live, near— depending on where you live, local doctors,— depending on where you live, local doctors, local, gp's, wear— local doctors, local, gp's, reear primary— local doctors, local, gp's, local primary services will know wnar— local primary services will know wnar wnere— local primary services will know what where the _ local primary services will know what where the pressure points vea— what where the pressure points van knew,— what where the pressure points are. you know, in— what where the pressure points are. you know, in some areas it mum— are. you know, in some areas it mram ne— are. you know, in some areas it mranr we enter— are. you know, in some areas it might be older people , in other might be older people, in other races— might be older people, in other nraeee n— might be older people, in other praeee rr mum— might be older people, in other places it might be people with menrar— places it might be people with more mental health or other premens— more mental health or other prenreme .— more mental health or other prenreme . se— more mental health or other problems . so there to be problems. so there needs to be same-er— problems. so there needs to be some .of flexible - problems. so there needs to be some of flexible motty. and some sort of flexible motty. and the some sort of flexible motty. and we emer— some sort of flexible motty. and the other problem— some sort of flexible motty. and the other problem course is the other problem of course is rne— the other problem of course is rne-re— the other problem of course is rne-re anar— the other problem of course is the-is that while- the other problem of course is the is that while you the builder is that while you can-rne— the builder is that while you. can .this -technology can have this super technology ana— can have this super technology and-nave— can have this super technology and-have this- can have this super technology and have this brilliant and you can have this brilliant kib— and you can have this brilliant mnlyew—

and you can have this brilliant mnlyew-ger- and you can have this brilliant kit, you got anyone kit, if you haven't got anyone to kit, if you haven't got anyone re operate— kit, if you haven't got anyone re ererare n,— kit, if you haven't got anyone to operate it, there's no point in name— to operate it, there's no point in manner in— to operate it, there's no point in having it. and— to operate it, there's no point in having it. and some of the rearrange— in having it. and some of the bananas er— in having it. and some of the buildings of hospitals , you buildings of old hospitals, you knew,— buildings of old hospitals, you knew-nave— buildings of old hospitals, you know,-have to— buildings of old hospitals, you know, have to have lead know, they have to have lead unea— know, they have to have leadj amen—awe lined ceilings and things like anar— lined ceilings and things like mar-nar— lined ceilings and things like rnarlrwr rarer — lined ceilings and things like that put mri scanners and that to put mri scanners and mines— that to put mri scanners and mines twe— that to put mri scanners and things like that. _ that to put mri scanners and things like that. i just i just mink— things like that. i just i just think-looking- things like that. i just i just think looking at the nhs at think that looking at the nhs at the think that looking at the nhs at me mmem— think that looking at the nhs at the moment, it's— think that looking at the nhs at the moment, it's clearly not sewing— the moment, it's clearly not serving patients— the moment, it's clearly not serving patients and it's not sewing— serving patients and it's not eerwng rne— serving patients and it's not serving the doctors if they all wanr— serving the doctors if they all wanr re. — serving the doctors if they all want to. well,— serving the doctors if they all want to. well, not- serving the doctors if they all want to. �*rw�*rtgt serving the doctors if they all want to. well, not all of them, but if quite a few of them, a significant minority, are leaving or thinking about leaving. and i think there's a majority thinking about leaving and see that in other and we see that in other professions clearly needs professions, clearly there needs to be some, you know, out of the box thinking about how we can do better because, you know, we're not in the the 50s anymore. not in the in the 50s anymore. things changed. 100% agree. things have changed. 100% agree. and they things have changed. 100% agree. ana rney enema— things have changed. 100% agree. and they should get— things have changed. 100% agree. and they should get their- t“ g; cg: 100% agree. and they should get their own man — and they should get their own man rn— and they should get their own snap in anaer— and they should get their own shop in order for— and they should get their own shop in order for starters. i reek— shop in order for starters. i mean, look at— shop in order for starters. i mean, look at look at the sort of mean, look at look at the sort or wastage— mean, look at look at the sort or waerage en— mean, look at look at the sort of wastage on things like procurement,— of wastage on things like procurement, paying pounds for rarer— procurement, paying pounds for rare reus— procurement, paying pounds for toilet rolls, paracetamol, waste money— toilet rolls, paracetamol, waste. money—twenty money on management, diversity enemy,— money on management, diversity eawrry ner— money on management, diversity equityr ner ere— money on management, diversity equity, net zero offices. yeah nar— equity, net zero offices. yeah nae wearers— equity, net zero offices. yeah but letters, i— equity, net zero offices. yeah but letters, i mean, i had a wearer— but letters, i mean, i had a wearer ana— but letters, i mean, i had a letter and i'm— but letters, i mean, i had a letter and i'm sure many of the wru— letter and i'm sure many of the viewers will have— letter and i'm sure many of the viewers will have the same viewers will have had the same enenene — viewers will have had the same experience. ihad_ viewers will have had the same experience. ihad a- viewers will have had the same

experience. i had a letter telling me that an appointment that i didn't even know i'd got had cancelled. yeah. then had been cancelled. yeah. then three later, got a letter three days later, i got a letter about original appointment, three days later, i got a letter about is original appointment, three days later, i got a letter about is oritbeing,ppointment, three days later, i got a letter about is oritbeing,ppoiiknow,:, which is now being, you know, that's two bits of postage . that's two bits of postage. somebody's got to sit there, type it, it out and type it, print it out and there's joined up. so there there's no joined up. so there is this thinking though, and it comes the or just the comes from the bma or just the way talk about the nhs that way we talk about the nhs that it free. yeah , but i do think it is free. yeah, but i do think we need— it is free. yeah, but i do think we need re— it is free. yeah, but i do think we need to remind— e ”rtrt; yeah, but i do think we need to remind ourselves and area— we need to remind ourselves and area dare— we need to remind ourselves and area aare r— we need to remind ourselves and area aare r say— we need to remind ourselves and area aare r eay n,— we need to remind ourselves and also dare i say it, the nhs nan,— also dare i say it, the nhs itself, that— also dare i say it, the nhs itself, that we— also dare i say it, the nhs itself, that we do pay for it meet— itself, that we do pay for it meer er— itself, that we do pay for it meer at we— itself, that we do pay for it most of us at— itself, that we do pay for it most of us at least do contribute— most of us at least do contribute through our taxes. so we enema— contribute through our taxes. so we should expect— contribute through our taxes. so we should expect a service, you knew— we should expect a service, you knew .— we should expect a service, you knew , n— we should expect a service, you knew , n r,— we should expect a service, you knew , n r, n— we should expect a service, you knew , n r, n r— we should expect a service, you know , if i, if i go— we should expect a service, you know , if i, if i go on deliveroo know, if i, if i go on deliveroo or amazon and— know, if i, if i go on deliveroo or amazon and i— know, if i, if i go on deliveroo or amazon and i pay money for eemernrne— or amazon and i pay money for eemernrne .— or amazon and i pay money for eemernrne , r— or amazon and i pay money for something , i expect to receive something, i expect to receive anar— something, i expect to receive rnar wearer— something, i expect to receive that product or— something, i expect to receive that product or that service. sneake— that product or that service. sneake re— that product or that service. should it be— that product or that service. should it be as— that product or that service. should it be as simple as that? is should it be as simple as that? re re— should it be as simple as that? is it different— should it be as simple as that? is it different ? _ should it be as simple as that? is it different 7 it— should it be as simple as that? is it different ? e : t“ e is it different? it shouldn't be different. and indeed , in lot different. and indeed, in a lot of the countries they of the countries where they extol the virtues of the balance between private and public, such as a system as germany, they have a system where people are encouraged to go if they afford go private. if they can afford to so relieve the burden. to do so to relieve the burden. and why not do the same here? why? that's a bit unfair

why? i think that's a bit unfair actually, because who go actually, because those who go private probably people who private are probably people who have most tax. yeah, have paid the most tax. yeah, thatis have paid the most tax. yeah, that is true. and they are the top tax payers are supporting that is true. and they are the top mostayers are supporting that is true. and they are the top most aters are supporting that is true. and they are the top most at the re supporting that is true. and they are the top most at the bottom orting that is true. and they are the top most at the bottom for�*ig the most at the bottom for a service which often is free if you're on benefits or things like that. so there's already a huge inequity and what's put in and goes idea that and what goes out. the idea that it's it's kind of fat cats it's that it's kind of fat cats that are abusing the system is completely misplaced. and that's the nhs. it's the problem with the nhs. it's now politicised. it's now become so politicised. it's become of the tories are become so kind of the tories are bad and the bma are attacking the tories and the timing is absolutely , absolutely. think, absolutely, absolutely. i think, you reprehensible . so this you know, reprehensible. so this is about the may elections . is all about the may elections. it's all about causing damage to the conservatives . the has the conservatives. the nhs has now become politicised now become a hugely politicised and straight and attack vehicle and straight off to bank holiday. it off to the bank holiday. it always has been. and you off to the bank holiday. it- always has been. and you know, no always has been. and you know, ne eewernmenr— always has been. and you know, no government has— always has been. and you know, no government has ever the no government has ever had the gunmen— no government has ever had the gunmen re— no government has ever had the gunmen re eer— no government has ever had the gumption to get round the table and raw— gumption to get round the table and talk about— gumption to get round the table and talk about it— gumption to get round the table and talk about it because some of and talk about it because some er rne— and talk about it because some er rne enmes— and talk about it because some of the things that— and talk about it because some of the things that need to be eene— of the things that need to be eene yew— of the things that need to be done are, you know, they're krkkrne— done are, you know, they're killing sacred _ done are, you know, they're killing sacred cows. if you krke. — killing sacred cows. if you krke. r— killing sacred cows. if you krke. r ee— killing sacred cows. if you like. i do wonder- killing sacred cows. if you like. r:rtr : . like. i do wonder because the majority of people, according to the polling, in support of

the polling, were in support of the polling, were in support of the doctors strikes. the initial strikes the particularly strikes in the nhs, particularly the nurses. but i'm just having a quick little glance at some of the views coming in and i remember a few months ago maybe there was far more support. these all do seem to be the views that will go to them soon, but coming in do seem to think actually this is a bit much. they are being radicalised now. it is becoming a little bit selfish, telling us to not use risky behaviour, but this is totally risky behaviour walking out. yeah. and if people start dying— out. yeah. and if people start eyrne eeeawee— out. yeah. and if people start dying because they- “cir?" and if people start dying because they cannot get , new re— dying because they cannot get care , how is that— dying because they cannot get care , how is that the care, how is that the individual's- care, how is that the individual's fault ? who happens individual's fault? who happens to individual's fault? who happens re rau— individual's fault? who happens re tau rue— individual's fault? who happens to fall ill? whereas they are eeeerneauy— to fall ill? whereas they are specifically deliberately wakkrne— specifically deliberately walking out— specifically deliberately walking out and downing tools wnen— walking out and downing tools wnren rare— walking out and downing tools which puts lives— walking out and downing tools which puts lives in danger. it's placing— which puts lives in danger. it's ekaerne rne— which puts lives in danger. it's placing the onus— which puts lives in danger. it's placing the onus on the public wnen— placing the onus on the public wnen rney— placing the onus on the public wnen rney are— placing the onus on the public when they are the ones who enewke — when they are the ones who enewke ee — when they are the ones who should be serving us. it's the cowe— should be serving us. it's the covm blues.— should be serving us. it's the covm blues. it's— should be serving us. it's the covid blues. it's the hangover mem— covid blues. it's the hangover rrem mem— covid blues. it's the hangover from from from _ covid blues. it's the hangover from from from lockdowns still raking— from from from lockdowns still taking control— from from from lockdowns still taking control of— from from from lockdowns still taking control of the mindset. it's taking control of the mindset. rr-e seru— taking control of the mindset. it's still like— taking control of the mindset. it's still like that. _ taking control of the mindset. it's still like that. i'm- taking control of the mindset. it's still like that. i'm so- it's still like that. i'm so sorry, we're going have sorry, but we're going to have to move we'll be coming back to move on. we'll be coming back to move on. we'll be coming back to topic shortly. i'll be

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. cnannek— . channel welcome back . channel- welcome back . . channel— welcome back . this .cnannek— welcome back . this is . cnannek— welcome back . this is dewbs & co. welcome back. this is dewbs& co. with me, emily carver, keeping me company until 7:00. joe phillips, political commentator and martin daubney, the journalist and former brexit party mep, and also part time presenter at gb news. that's right , yeah. presenter at gb news. that's right, yeah. he's on all the nme- — right, yeah. he's on all the nme- nee— right, yeah. he's on all the time. he's on— right, yeah. he's on all the time. he's on all- right, yeah. he's on all the time. he's on all the- g he's on all the time. he's on all the time. sway.— time. he's on all the time. serry. r— time. he's on all the time. serry. r den-e— time. he's on all the time. sorry, i don't wish- time. he's on all the time. sorry, i don't wish to- time. he's on all the time. sorry, i don't wish to downplay your cv. there. anyway, we're going— your cv. there. anyway, we're eerne re— your cv. there. anyway, we're going re 90— your cv. there. anyway, we're going to go straight- ” ce there. anyway, we're going to go straight to your views— going to go straight to your views on the— going to go straight to your views on the nhs because lots of eeeeke— views on the nhs because lots of peopler rere— views on the nhs because lots of peopler kere er— views on the nhs because lots of people, lots of you— views on the nhs because lots of people, lots of you have been gearing— people, lots of you have been getting rn— people, lots of you have been getting rn-eae- people, lots of you have been getting in gus says this getting in touch. gus says this is en— getting in touch. gus says this is en rne— getting in touch. gus says this is on the issue— getting in touch. gus says this is on the issue of— getting in touch. gus says this is on the issue of striking eeerere. — is on the issue of striking doctors. gus— is on the issue of striking doctors. gus says these young eeerere— doctors. gus says these youngj eeerere—rne doctors have clearly taken the nyeeenneak— doctors have clearly taken the hypocritical oath— doctors have clearly taken the hypocritical oath and are eerreerky— hypocritical oath and are eerreerky-re- hypocritical oath and are perfectly to be trained hypocritical oath and are- perfectly -to be trained in perfectly happy to be trained in a-eyerem,— perfectly happy to be trained in a-eyerem, men— perfectly happy to be trained in a-system, then go- perfectly happy to be trained in a system, then go the a state system, then go to the moment— a state system, then go to the highest bidder— a state system, then go to the highest bidder abroad at the tree— highest bidder abroad at the first—hypocritesl first opportunity. hypocrites the first opportunity. hypocrites rne ker— first opportunity. hypocrites me we er— first opportunity. hypocrites the lot of them. i would like to mink— the lot of them. i would like to rnrnk anar— the lot of them. i would like to think that most— the lot of them. i would like to think that most of— the lot of them. i would like to think that most of them do rnrene— think that most of them do intend-least— think that most of them do intend least initially, to intend at least initially, to say— intend at least initially, to stay wrrnrn— intend at least initially, to stay within nhs. but who stay within the nhs. but who knews— stay within the nhs. but who ks maybe— stay within the nhs. but who knows, maybe you use knows, maybe you could use that argument— knows, maybe you could use that argument aneur— knows, maybe you could use that argument about the numbers of eeeeke— argument about the numbers of eeeeke wne— argument about the numbers of eeeeke wne-wne- argument about the numbers of people who who then go people who doctors who then go ane— people who doctors who then go and-rn— people who doctors who then go ane-rn erware— people who doctors who then go and in private practise and work in private practise eeeawse— and work in private practise eeeawse au— and work in private practise because all the— and work in private practise because all the time we're saying— because all the time we're saying ee— because all the time we're saying ee year— because all the time we're saying do your hybrid thing, because all the time we're sayingmaylour hybrid thing, because all the time we're sayingmay or r hybrid thing, because all the time we're sayingmay or mayirid thing, because all the time we're sayingmay or may notthing, because all the time we're sayingmay or may not work, but which may or may not work, but the which may or may not work, but me eeeiers— which may or may not work, but the doctors-are— which may or may not work, but the doctors are doing those the doctors who are doing those eriwaie— the doctors who are doing those private operations— private operations are not eeeraring—

private operations are not eeeraring in— private operations are not operating in nhs. the taxpayer funds their training anyway. i don't mind them topping up, topping up their their money with a little bit of private work. but yes, when they bleat on work. but yes, when they bleat en aneur— work. but yes, when they bleat en aeewi new— but yes, when they bleat on about how important the nhs is, on about how important the nhs islnaiienai— on about how important the nhs is,lnational health— on about how important the nhs is, national health service is, a national health service is, a national health service is i— is, a national health service is i is— is, a national health service is i is a— is, a national health service is i is a iii— is, a national health service is, it is a bit hypocritical. i weake— is, it is a bit hypocritical. i wewie say— is, it is a bit hypocritical. i wewie say .— is, it is a bit hypocritical. i would say. bupa is, it is a bit hypocritical. i would say . bupa says is, it is a bit hypocritical. i would say. bupa says having is, it is a bit hypocritical. i would say . bupa says having lost would say. bupa says having lost bein— would say. bupa says having lost eein earenis— would say. bupa says having lost both parents to— would say. bupa says having lost both parents to inept doctors, mere— both parents to inept doctors, rnerelne— both parents to inept doctors, there no accountability . as there is no accountability. as formali— there is no accountability. as rerleay ise— there is no accountability. as rerleay .— there is no accountability. as forlpay rise , dot- there is no accountability. as for pay rise , dot dot dot. for a pay rise, dot dot dot. kes. — for a pay rise, dot dot dot. yes i— for a pay rise, dot dot dot. yes i mean— for a pay rise, dot dot dot. yes. i mean there are a lot of newer— yes. i mean there are a lot of newer sieries— yes. i mean there are a lot of horror stories from - yes. i mean there are a lot of horror stories from the nhs in ierms— horror stories from the nhs in rerms er— horror stories from the nhs in terms of well— horror stories from the nhs in terms of well ,_ horror stories from the nhs in terms of well , inadequate, terms of well, inadequate, inaeegaaie— terms of well, inadequate, inadequate care i would say, and i inadequate care i would say, and i ee— inadequate care i would say, and i are eeiiewe— inadequate care i would say, and i do believe this— inadequate care i would say, and i do believe this to— inadequate care i would say, and i do believe this to be true rnewgn— i do believe this to be true rnewgn anar— i do believe this to be true though that most practitioners do though that most practitioners are ee— though that most practitioners are are men— though that most practitioners do do their best— though that most practitioners do do their best sometimes it fairs— do do their best sometimes it raiis men,— do do their best sometimes it falls short, though unfortunately , janet says it unfortunately, janet says it anneys— unfortunately, janet says it annoys me that— unfortunately, janet says it annoys me that these strikers are annoys me that these strikers waning— annoys me that these strikers are wanting more— annoys me that these strikers are wanting more money because all are wanting more money because aii er— are wanting more money because aii er rne— are wanting more money because aii er me years— are wanting more money because all of the years they haven't got— all of the years they haven't got inflation _ all of the years they haven't got inflation busting pay rise, but got inflation busting pay rise, ear-asserted— got inflation busting pay rise, but accepted these rises at but they accepted these rises at the but they accepted these rises at me rime— but they accepted these rises at me rime .— but they accepted these rises at me rime . se— but they accepted these rises at the time . so don't— but they accepted these rises at the time . so don't cry about the time. so don't cry about wner— the time. so don't cry about we yew— the time. so don't cry about what you agreed— the time. so don't cry about what you agreed to. yes. one what you agreed to. yes. no one ters— what you agreed to. yes. no one tenses-te— what you agreed to. yes. no one terees-te a— what you agreed to. yes. no one forces-be a doctor.- what you agreed to. yes. no one forces be a doctor. you forces you to be a doctor. you do forces you to be a doctor. you are knew— forces you to be a doctor. you do know what— forces you to be a doctor. you do know what the _ forces you to be a doctor. you do know what the pay scale is, int— do know what the pay scale is, int tnere— do know what the pay scale is, int tnere is— do know what the pay scale is, but there is an— do know what the pay scale is, but there is an argument that it sneake— but there is an argument that it snewie nse— but there is an argument that it should rise. but— but there is an argument that it should rise. but then everyone's teen— should rise. but then everyone's teen sgweezee— should rise. but then everyone's been squeezed inflation. been squeezed by inflation. you knew,— been squeezed by inflation. you knew—terl know, it's tough. it's tough for nest— know, it's tough. it's tough for mest reente— know, it's tough. it's tough for most people out— know, it's tough. it's tough for most people out there , isn't it,

most people out there, isn't it, we — most people out there, isn't it, reee wean.— most people out there, isn't it, reee team. it— most people out there, isn't it, joe? yeah, it is.— most people out there, isn't it, joe? yeah, it is. and- most people out there, isn't it, joe? yeah, it is. and i- most people out there, isn't it, joe? “cir?“ c ' r: t“ joe? yeah, it is. and i mean, i do think there is an element of truth in the fact that they're saying this 35% is because of ten years of, you know, and as the person who's just emailed in said, well, why did you accept the deal? but to a certain extent that answers your first question. emily that maybe that's why the bma has become a bit more radical because people are now saying, hang on a minute, you're our representatives. why did you accept ? and we're now in accept this? and we're now in this position . so, you know, all this position. so, you know, all organisations change. so it doesn't necessarily mean that there are a bunch of what did you call them? martin a bunch of lefty doctors. well, i stand by it. — lefty doctors. well, i stand by it. vea— lefty doctors. well, i stand by it. you stand by it. he stands by what he says. that's good. people should stand by what they say. richard and lesley made a mistake. of course. what, like elon musk? what beautiful elon musk? what a beautiful segway. one more segway. no, we've got one more view it's slightly, view because it's slightly, slightly different, different vibe richard says vibe to this one. richard says if hadn't vibe to this one. richard says if back hadn't vibe to this one. richard says if back on hadn't vibe to this one. richard says if back on staffing hadn't vibe to this one. richard says if back on staffing levelshadn't vibe to this one. richard says if back on staffing levels over�*t cut back on staffing levels over the last 40 years, there would be enough staff so they wouldn't have hours.

have to work such long hours. everything wrong with the everything that's wrong with the nhs was inflicted on them by politicians nothing politicians who knew nothing about how it ran . well, there about how it ran. well, there you go. is it the government's fault? is it the nhs managers fault? is it the nhs managers fault? the bureaucracy's fault? is it the bureaucracy's fault? is it the bureaucracy's fault? it just the system's fault? is it just the system's fault? is it just the system's fault ? you can't fault? is it just the system's fault? you can't blame fault? is it just the system's fault ? you can't blame doctors, fault? you can't blame doctors, nurses and the staff within the nhs , at least for some of the nhs, at least for some of the problems that the nhs faces anyway , we're going to move on. anyway, we're going to move on. but please do keep your views coming in on the nhs. we may return to it. who knows? now in surprise news from america, it turns out twitter boss elon musk is a viewer of the bbc. i'm is a keen viewer of the bbc. i'm sure he also watches gb news, the has objected the beeb has objected to a designation on its twitter page, describing as government describing it as government funded there on funded media. there it is on the screen claiming screen for you, claiming it is and has been independent, and always has been independent, musk defended the description, but i should note that but did say i should note that i follow bbc news on twitter because i think it is among the least biased . least well, is the least biased. least well, is the bbc as impartial as it claims? joe i'll let you take the floor on this one. well, yes, it is.

kne— on this one. well, yes, it is. and it— on this one. well, yes, it is. and it is. — on this one. well, yes, it is. and it is. it— on this one. well, yes, it is. and it is. it is— iii" well, yes, it is. and it is. it is funded by rtr“ well, yes, it is. and it is. it is funded by the tense— and it is. it is funded by the tieenee tee— and it is. it is funded by the licence fee plus— and it is. it is funded by the licence fee plus its commercial eeeratiens— licence fee plus its commercial eeeratiens et— licence fee plus its commercial operations of selling programmes anteat— operations of selling programmes atreae ane— operations of selling programmes abroad and formats and what have yew.— abroad and formats and what have yew. nat— abroad and formats and what have yew. eat it— abroad and formats and what have yew. eat it is— abroad and formats and what have you. but it is extraor— abroad and formats and what have you. but it is extraor tremely strietiy— you. but it is extraor tremely strictly regulated through its iteyai— strictly regulated through its royal charter.— strictly regulated through its royal charter. the idea that it is a— royal charter. the idea that it is a state— royal charter. the idea that it is a state run— royal charter. the idea that it is a state run broadcaster like tiri— is a state run broadcaster like itiii kwssia— is a state run broadcaster like rmt russia today or chinese ewttits— rmt russia today or chinese ewttits er— rmt russia today or chinese outfits or any— rmt russia today or chinese outfits or any other things that you— outfits or any other things that yew seate— outfits or any other things that you could think— outfits or any other things that you could think of is utterly tweierews— you could think of is utterly tweierews .— you could think of is utterly ludicrous . so— you could think of is utterly ludicrous . so here we are, ludicrous. so here we are, twitter— ludicrous. so here we are, iwitter gets— ludicrous. so here we are, twitter gets something wrong. is tnat— twitter gets something wrong. is we a— twitter gets something wrong. is we a es— twitter gets something wrong. is that a news story?— twitter gets something wrong. is that a news story? no. have they semest— that a news story? no. have they eeneet ite— that a news story? no. have they eerreet ite i— that a news story? no. have they correct it? i don't— that a news story? no. have they correct it? i don't know. i ten-t— correct it? i don't know. i een-t ee— correct it? i don't know. i don't do twitter. but wise , joe? don't do twitter. but wise, joe? wett— don't do twitter. but wise, joe? war, i— don't do twitter. but wise, joe? war, i mean— don't do twitter. but wise, joe? well, i mean, you— don't do twitter. but wise, joe? well, i mean, you know, the only time— well, i mean, you know, the only time i— well, i mean, you know, the only time i eer— well, i mean, you know, the only time i ever look— well, i mean, you know, the only time i ever look is— well, i mean, you know, the only time i ever look is something arter— time i ever look is something atter tnese— time i ever look is something after these programmes to have a reek— after these programmes to have a teek at— after these programmes to have a teek at tne— after these programmes to have a look at the clips.— after these programmes to have a look at the clips. well, no, my— look at the clips. well, no, only because _ look at the clips. well, no, only because people and people are only because people and people se wie— only because people and people are so vile and— only because people and people are so vile and so— only because people and people are so vile and so offensive and so are so vile and so offensive and se abusive.— are so vile and so offensive and se aiwsiwe. i— are so vile and so offensive and so abusive. i sort— are so vile and so offensive and so abusive. i sort of— are so vile and so offensive and so abusive. i sort of think, wett— so abusive. i sort of think, war, wny— so abusive. i sort of think, well, why would it, however, wett— well, why would it, however, war, tet-s— well, why would it, however, well, let's say— well, why would it, however, well, let's say to _ well, why would it, however, well, let's say to people at neme— well, let's say to people at nene-te— well, let's say to people at nene-tee se- well, let's say to people at home, be so mean. well, let's say to people at- home,-be so mean. don't be home, don't be so mean. don't be so mean. there's no need be so mean. there's no need to be rude. disagree. we're all we're

all kind here. but but i do think, you know , the bbc is it think, you know, the bbc is it can't please anybody you know it's attacked by governments of all shades. it comes under pressure trem — : it comes under pressure from governments, as we knew.— pressure from governments, as we knew. its— pressure from governments, as we knew. me get— pressure from governments, as we knew. me get a— pressure from governments, as we know. it's got a chairman at the memem— know. it's got a chairman at the memem .— know. it's got a chairman at the moment , a friend— know. it's got a chairman at the moment, a friend of boris rennsen-s— moment, a friend of boris johnson's, who— moment, a friend of boris johnson's, who sorted out the meeting— johnson's, who sorted out the meeting tnat— johnson's, who sorted out the meeting that apparently arranged the meeting that apparently arranged tne teen.— meeting that apparently arranged the loan. there's— meeting that apparently arranged the loan. there's all sorts of, you— the loan. there's all sorts of, yew knew— the loan. there's all sorts of, yew knew .— the loan. there's all sorts of, yew knew , eeegy— the loan. there's all sorts of, you know , dodgy questions about you know, dodgy questions about reente— you know, dodgy questions about eeeete ane— you know, dodgy questions about people and there— you know, dodgy questions about people and there are some spectacularly— people and there are some spectacularly awful mistakes tney-we— spectacularly awful mistakes tney-we mate,— spectacularly awful mistakes they've made, not least of all tnreagn— they've made, not least of all tnrewgn remmy— they've made, not least of all through jemmy savile, but it is by through jemmy savile, but it is key ane— through jemmy savile, but it is ty and targe— through jemmy savile, but it is ty and iarge .— through jemmy savile, but it is by and large , the— through jemmy savile, but it is by and large , the most trusted by and large, the most trusted treaeeaster— by and large, the most trusted broadcaster in— by and large, the most trusted broadcaster in the world. and it is very— broadcaster in the world. and it is very imeertant— broadcaster in the world. and it is very important to include in ms— is very important to include in tnis wnien— is very important to include in this, which is— is very important to include in this, which is not— is very important to include in this, which is not funded by the iieenee. — this, which is not funded by the iieenee. ine— this, which is not funded by the licence. the licence fee is the wette— licence. the licence fee is the world service,— licence. the licence fee is the world service, which for people arwene— world service, which for people attend tne— world service, which for people around the world— world service, which for people around the world whose only etner— around the world whose only other media— around the world whose only other media is— around the world whose only other media is proper state seenseree— other media is proper state sponsored media. it's really imeertant— sponsored media. it's really important because it's a voice of independence. _ important because it's a voice of independence. but the bbc tees— of independence. but the bbc eees yea— of independence. but the bbc does, you know,— of independence. but the bbc does, you know, it won't, it went— does, you know, it won't, it won't run something unless it's ineeeeneentiy— won't run something unless it's independently verified . e : independently verified. it does get it— independently verified. it does get it wreng— independently verified. it does

get it wrong, though. yes, we can say, okay, compared to other countries, which are authoritarian or are dictatorships, it is probably less biased than rmt, for example. yeah well, but it does get things wrong. i mean, particularly over the brexit debate , but other issues as debate, but other issues as well. i mean, i've got information here, radio four's today programme between 2000 and 4 2015, just 132 of the 4275 guests, speakers on things relating to the european union were in favour of withdrawing from the eu. so so that's 3.2% of all the guests they had on on one eu related . but that's the one eu related. but that's the today programme. that's one of the biggest radio shows . the bbc the biggest radio shows. the bbc isn't as biased as,— the biggest radio shows. the bbc isn't as biased as, say,— the biggest radio shows. the bbc isn't as biased as, say, kim- isn't as biased as, say, kim long— isn't as biased as, say, kim reng an-s— isn't as biased as, say, kim jong un's media.- isn't as biased as, say, kim jong un's media. it's not as tiasee— jong un's media. it's not as tiasee as— jong un's media. it's not as biased as russian state media, but biased as russian state media, iwt it— biased as russian state media, tat it is— biased as russian state media, but it is biased— biased as russian state media, but it is biased and it is biased— but it is biased and it is biased in— but it is biased and it is biased in terms of brexit, i knew— biased in terms of brexit, i knew tnat— biased in terms of brexit, i know that having stood for eteetien— know that having stood for election and— know that having stood for election and been one of the see— election and been one of the sole brexiteers_ election and been one of the sole brexiteers on a bbc panel entiessiy—

sole brexiteers on a bbc panel eneiessiy, i— sole brexiteers on a bbc panel endlessly, i was— sole brexiteers on a bbc panel endlessly, i was against 3 or 4 reente— endlessly, i was against 3 or 4 eeeete. wew— endlessly, i was against 3 or 4 eeeete. wew yew— endlessly, i was against 3 or 4 people. now you could say that ed people. now you could say that it waitin— people. now you could say that it iiartin i— people. now you could say that ed martin i gave— people. now you could say that ed martin i gave as good as i got— ed martin i gave as good as i get ane— ed martin i gave as good as i get and in— ed martin i gave as good as i got and in fact— ed martin i gave as good as i got and in fact it— ed martin i gave as good as i got and in fact it may be a great— got and in fact it may be a great debater,— got and in fact it may be a great debater, but the fact of the great debater, but the fact of me matter— great debater, but the fact of the matter is— great debater, but the fact of the matter is that's not necessarily— the matter is that's not necessarily because the bbc is innerentiy— necessarily because the bbc is inherently biased.— necessarily because the bbc is inherently biased. it's because it retteetee— inherently biased. it's because it reflected the— inherently biased. it's because it reflected the political class wne— it reflected the political class wne-tiasee— it reflected the political class who biased because the who were biased because the neiitieai— who were biased because the political class— who were biased because the political class was two thirds remain one-third- political class was two thirds remain one third brexit and remain one one third brexit and tneretere— remain one one third brexit and tneretere-gas— remain one one third brexit and therefore gas reflected therefore the gas reflected mat.— therefore the gas reflected tnatltne— therefore the gas reflected that-the bbc- therefore the gas reflected that. the bbc were that. so the bbc were reetieating— that. so the bbc were replicating an inbuilt bias into our replicating an inbuilt bias into eeiitieat— replicating an inbuilt bias into our political class. therefore tne — our political class. therefore our the media— our political class. therefore our the media was intrinsically tiasee— our the media was intrinsically tiasee .— our the media was intrinsically tiasee . ine— our the media was intrinsically biased . the bbc— our the media was intrinsically biased . the bbc is very biased biased. the bbc is very biased on biased. the bbc is very biased en tnings— biased. the bbc is very biased on things like— biased. the bbc is very biased on things like nhs pay strikes. wnen— on things like nhs pay strikes. wnen weake— on things like nhs pay strikes. when would they— on things like nhs pay strikes. when would they ever criticise the when would they ever criticise tne wnse— when would they ever criticise the nhs? when— when would they ever criticise the nhs? when would they put an atternatiwe— the nhs? when would they put an alternative view _ the nhs? when would they put an alternative view across to eiimate — alternative view across to climate change net zero climate change or net zero takese— climate change or net zero taxes? -would- climate change or net zero taxes? would they climate change or net zero- taxes? -would they challenge taxes? when would they challenge tnings— taxes? when would they challenge tnings-raeism — taxes? when would they challenge things racism being a fact things like racism being a fact of things like racism being a fact et nritisn— things like racism being a fact of british culture? they do enam— of british culture? they do main eat— of british culture? they do churn out biased news just like the churn out biased news just like me test— churn out biased news just like me test iike— churn out biased news just like the just like channel 4 or just iike— the just like channel 4 or just iike riv— the just like channel 4 or just iike iiv er— the just like channel 4 or just like itv or just— the just like channel 4 or just like itv or just like, say, sky news. — like itv or just like, say, sky news. nat— like itv or just like, say, sky news. net et— like itv or just like, say, sky news. but of course, the difference _ news. but of course, the difference is— news. but of course, the difference is we have to pay for mis— difference is we have to pay for tnis. kne— difference is we have to pay for tnis. and it— difference is we have to pay for this. and if we— difference is we have to pay for this. and if we don't, we can go to this. and if we don't, we can go te iait— this. and if we don't, we can go te iaii .— this. and if we don't, we can go te iaii . se— this. and if we don't, we can go to jail . so that's— this. and if we don't, we can go to jail . so that's the point . to jail. so that's the point. ine— to jail. so that's the point. ine-i— to jail. so that's the point. the-i think,- to jail. so that's the point. the-i think, has- to jail. so that's the point. the i think, has problems the bbc, i think, has problems witn— the bbc, i think, has problems witn ties— the bbc, i think, has problems with bias-they— the bbc, i think, has problems with bias they replicate an with bias and they replicate an eneiess— with bias and they replicate an eneiess stew.— with bias and they replicate an endless story. i— with bias and they replicate an endless story. i think of

eiwisien— endless story. i think of division politically , socially division politically, socially identity— division politically, socially identity politics, acas, racism, sexism , slavery.— identity politics, acas, racism, sexism , slavery. the bbc tells sexism, slavery. the bbc tells us sexism, slavery. the bbc tells ws att— sexism, slavery. the bbc tells as ati tne— sexism, slavery. the bbc tells us all the time— sexism, slavery. the bbc tells us all the time that britain is tat.— us all the time that britain is tat. nritain— us all the time that britain is bad. britain used— us all the time that britain is bad. britain used to be celebrated— bad. britain used to be celebrated by the british broadcasting _ celebrated by the british broadcasting company. it no tenger— broadcasting company. it no ienger is. — broadcasting company. it no longer is. and— broadcasting company. it no longer is. and actually look on the longer is. and actually look on me trignt— longer is. and actually look on the bright side.— longer is. and actually look on the bright side. that's why gb mews— the bright side. that's why gb news exists. _ the bright side. that's why gb news exists. well,- the bright side. that's why gb news exists. emits “"rrtt; the bright side. that's why gb news exists. witt. “rt;”rt; the bright side. that's why gb news exists. witt. “”rrt;t; grtr news exists. well, there you go. there is space for us all but for me. david attenborough. wniie— for me. david attenborough. wnite eeiis— for me. david attenborough. while dolls is— for me. david attenborough. while dolls is a— david attenborough. while dolls is a celebration of britain.— while dolls is a celebration of britain its— while dolls is a celebration of britain, it's a— while dolls is a celebration of britain, it's a propaganda wenieie— britain, it's a propaganda vehicle for— britain, it's a propaganda vehicle for the- britain, it's a propaganda vehicle for the world's going to die vehicle for the world's going to tie teeaase— vehicle for the world's going to die because of— vehicle for the world's going to die because of climate change. vea— die because of climate change. vea cant— die because of climate change. vea eant nne— die because of climate change. you can't. bbc both— die because of climate change. you can't. bbc both ways.- die because of climate change. you can't. bbc both ways. it's unwatchable. it's an absolute, vou— unwatchable. it's an absolute, yea knew.— unwatchable. it's an absolute, you know, depressing- t. t it's an absolute, you know, depressing paean to ata— you know, depressing paean to ata in— you know, depressing paean to nature in these— you know, depressing paean to nature in these islands. okay wett— nature in these islands. okay weti. take— nature in these islands. okay well, take another data set. reente— well, take another data set. people eat— well, take another data set. people put these _ well, take another data set. people put these together to show bbc bias for example, the bbc dedicates far more programming to the discussion of inequality rather than, say, the promotion of economic growth or reducing the deficit . it in the reducing the deficit. it in the past. do you think those editorial choices are without a

bias? i think it's very difficult when you work in a large media organisation and i think you know it is probably true to say that a large proportion of journalists, particularly in london, do reflect a certain viewpoint . reflect a certain viewpoint. and i think that's something tnat— and i think that's something we tne— and i think that's something that the bbc— and i think that's something that the bbc is— and i think that's something that the bbc is very well aware of that the bbc is very well aware et ane— that the bbc is very well aware et ane nas— that the bbc is very well aware of and has tried— that the bbc is very well aware of and has tried to— that the bbc is very well aware of and has tried to address, not in att— of and has tried to address, not in ati ways— of and has tried to address, not in all ways entirely success rate.— in all ways entirely success taity. tat— in all ways entirely success taity. tat i— in all ways entirely success fully, but i think there is an etement— fully, but i think there is an eiement et— fully, but i think there is an element of truth in what martin says.— element of truth in what martin says. tnat— element of truth in what martin says. met its— element of truth in what martin says, that it's sort— element of truth in what martin says, that it's sort of it retieets— says, that it's sort of it reflects the _ says, that it's sort of it reflects the people around in the reflects the people around in me same— reflects the people around in me way— reflects the people around in the same way that gb news does aetaaiiy— the same way that gb news does aetaaiiy .— the same way that gb news does aetaaiiy . yea— the same way that gb news does actually , you know,— the same way that gb news does actually , you know, that you're actually, you know, that you're retieeting — actually, you know, that you're reflecting your— actually, you know, that you're reflecting your viewers views by ane— reflecting your viewers views by anti iarge — reflecting your viewers views by anti iarge .— reflecting your viewers views by ane iarge . nat— reflecting your viewers views by and large . but i— reflecting your viewers views by and large . but i do think it's and large. but i do think it's reaiiy— and large. but i do think it's really important— and large. but i do think it's really important to say that it is, really important to say that it is. yea— really important to say that it is. yea knew— really important to say that it is. yea knew .— really important to say that it is, you know , to— really important to say that it is, you know , to the point. i is, you know, to the point. i tnink— is, you know, to the point. i think sometimes— is, you know, to the point. i think sometimes of its own navel gazing— think sometimes of its own navel gazing .— think sometimes of its own navel gazing . wean.— think sometimes of its own navel gazing . yeah. trying to get the gazing. yeah. trying to get the taianee— gazing. yeah. trying to get the taianee rignt— gazing. yeah. trying to get the balance right .— gazing. yeah. trying to get the balance right . and they are much balance right. and they are much tinie— balance right. and they are much more timid now— balance right. and they are much more timid now and frightened teeaase— more timid now and frightened teeaase tne— more timid now and frightened because the licence fee is under tweet.— because the licence fee is under tnreat. kes— because the licence fee is under threat. yes well,— because the licence fee is under threat. yes well, i— because the licence fee is under threat. yes well, i do i do tnink— threat. yes well, i do i do tnink tnat— threat. yes well, i do i do think that it's—

threat. yes well, i do i do think that it's fair, martin, to say— think that it's fair, martin, to say tnat— think that it's fair, martin, to say we rney— think that it's fair, martin, to say that they have, um, changed a tittie— say that they have, um, changed a iittie tit. — say that they have, um, changed a little bit. they— say that they have, um, changed a little bit. they are- say that they have, um, changed a little bit. “rtg 3111 q “g a little bit. they are trying to invite more diverse people on more socially conservative people . for example, more people people. for example, more people with different views on, say, net zero. they are changing up a little bit. and i think that's a reflection of the changing media scene. places like gb news are a threat. yeah i've been on bbc programmes endlessly and i used to talk a lot about the inequality faced by white working class boys who've been the bottom the for 25 the bottom of the stack for 25 plus straight years. the data is irretatatie— plus straight years. the data is irrefutable and _ plus straight years. the data is irrefutable and yet— g“ the data is irrefutable and yet when you go on irrefutable and yet when you go en a tee— irrefutable and yet when you go on a bbc programme and talk ateat— on a bbc programme and talk ateat mis— on a bbc programme and talk about this, you're— on a bbc programme and talk about this, you're instantly stet— about this, you're instantlyl shot _ divisive shot down as being divisive and tease— shot down as being divisive and racist. _ racist. - racist. the data isn't racist. ine— racist. the data isn't racist. rte-are— racist. the data isn't racist. the - are .facts- racist. the data isn't racist. the - are .facts .- racist. the data isn't racist. the are facts . but the facts are the facts. but trying — the facts are the facts. but trying te — the facts are the facts. but trying te get— the facts are the facts. but trying to get that across on a tee— trying to get that across on a tee genet— trying to get that across on a bbc panel show— trying to get that across on a bbc panel show is next to imeessitie— bbc panel show is next to impossible. because again, back to impossible. because again, back te tne— impossible. because again, back to the political— impossible. because again, back to the political class reflecting - to the political class reflecting who gets on the bbc. ine — reflecting who gets on the bbc. ine mineset— reflecting who gets on the bbc. the mindset of— reflecting who gets on the bbc. the mindset of bbc employees tents— the mindset of bbc employees tenes te— the mindset of bbc employees tenes te te— the mindset of bbc employees tends to be metropolitan iterat— tends to be metropolitan liberal, university educated, gaite— liberal, university educated, quite middle— liberal, university educated, quite middle class , acas quite quite middle class, acas quite wett— quite middle class, acas quite weit en.— quite middle class, acas quite weit ett. kne— quite middle class, acas quite well off. and as— quite middle class, acas quite well off. and as a— quite middle class, acas quite well off. and as a consequence , well off. and as a consequence, it's well off. and as a consequence, its a— well off. and as a consequence, its a niwe— well off. and as a consequence, it's a hive mind.— well off. and as a consequence, it's a hive mind. you don't get

werking— it's a hive mind. you don't get werking eiass— it's a hive mind. you don't get working class representation tneagn.— working class representation tneagn. vea— working class representation though. you don't get people who grew— though. you don't get people who grewlknewing— though. you don't get people who grew-knowing what— though. you don't get people who grew knowing what poverty grew up knowing what poverty reaity—is— grew up knowing what poverty reatiy—is tne- really is. poverty is the eeneeet— really is. poverty is the concept that- really is. poverty is the concept that these people. concept that to these people. eat— concept that to these people. nat i— concept that to these people. nat i tnink— concept that to these people. but i think it's— concept that to these people. but i think it's not a reality. i but i think it's not a reality. i tnink— but i think it's not a reality. i tnink tney— but i think it's not a reality. i think they are— but i think it's not a reality. i think they are trying to address— i think they are trying to address it. _ i think they are trying to address it. '“r: i think they are trying to address it. “r: address it. and i think, you know, we're talking about, you know, domestic issues predominantly, then look at predominantly, but then look at least offset jeremy bowen, you know, all those fantastic know, all of those fantastic foreign correspondents . and, you foreign correspondents. and, you know, i would pay my licence fee just for that because i trust them that is all we've got time for on that one. just. but wett— for on that one. just. but we-ii. wett— for on that one. just. but we'll, we'll come- just. but we'll, we'll come back to it i tnink.— we'll, we'll come back to it i think, because— we'll, we'll come back to it i think, because there's a lot to taik— think, because there's a lot to taik ateat— think, because there's a lot to talk about. but— think, because there's a lot to talk about. but coming up, our smartenene— talk about. but coming up, our smartenene is— talk about. but coming up, our smartphone is leaving the natien-s— smartphone is leaving the nation's youngsters depressed ane— nation's youngsters depressed and iseiatee— nation's youngsters depressed and isolated and— nation's youngsters depressed and isolated and detached. inat-s— and isolated and detached. inat-s wnat— and isolated and detached. that's what one— and isolated and detached. that's what one parenting group tninks. — thinks. we'll ask if such enmes— thinks. we'll ask if such phones, smartphones should be tanned— phones, smartphones should be banned ter— phones, smartphones should be banned for children. stay tuned

welcome back. this is dewbs& co witn— welcome back. this is dewbs& co witn me— welcome back. this is dewbs& co witn tmity— welcome back. this is dewbs& co with me, emily carver, keeping me eemeany— with me, emily carver, keeping me company until 7:00 is joe entities— me company until 7:00 is joe initiies tne— me company until 7:00 is joe phillips the political commentator, and martin daubney .tne— commentator, and martin daubney . tne rearnatist— commentator, and martin daubney , the journalist and— commentator, and martin daubney , the journalist and former brexit— , the journalist and former merit natty— , the journalist and former brexit party mep and gb news presenter— brexit party mep and gb news presenter .— brexit party mep and gb news presenter. part— brexit party mep and gb news presenter. part time no , full presenter. part time no, full time. — presenter. part time no, full time. tatt— presenter. part time no, full time. full time.— presenter. part time no, full time. full time. always on the terry.— time. full time. always on the teity. vea— time. full time. always on the telly. you can't— time. full time. always on the telly. you can't get him off. i tnink— telly. you can't get him off. i tnink reente— telly. you can't get him off. i think people enjoy your input, so think people enjoy your input, se its— think people enjoy your input, se it-s geese.— think people enjoy your input, so it's good. it's— think people enjoy your input, so it's good. it's good. anyway, yae— so it's good. it's good. anyway, ye teen— so it's good. it's good. anyway, you've been getting in touch at neme— you've been getting in touch at neme ateat— you've been getting in touch at home about the— you've been getting in touch at home about the bbc. lots of messages coming in. dusty says. niasee—eemeanyl messages coming in. dusty says. niasee—eemeany .| messages coming in. dusty says.l biased—company . we biased broadcasting company. we stiek— biased broadcasting company. we stiek te— biased broadcasting company. we stiek te wnat— biased broadcasting company. we stick to what you're— biased broadcasting company. we stick to what you're good at. wiieiite — stick to what you're good at. wildlife documents and period erama— wildlife documents and period mama-get— wildlife documents and period erama-get eat— wildlife documents and period drama-get out of- wildlife documents and period drama get out of news and drama and get out of news and earrem— drama and get out of news and current affairs.— drama and get out of news and current affairs. well that is a streng— current affairs. well that is a streng eeinien— current affairs. well that is a strong opinion there susan says the strong opinion there susan says tne nne— strong opinion there susan says tne tee is— strong opinion there susan says the bbc is funded— strong opinion there susan says the bbc is funded in part by the iieenee— the bbc is funded in part by the tieenee payer.— the bbc is funded in part by the licence payer. but— the bbc is funded in part by the licence payer. but haven't they aise— licence payer. but haven't they also received _ licence payer. but haven't they also received £70— licence payer. but haven't they also received £70 million from the also received £70 million from me titt— also received £70 million from me niit ane— also received £70 million from the bill and melinda gates foundation?— the bill and melinda gates foundation? ian don't know about mat.— foundation? ian don't know about tnat. key— foundation? ian don't know about tnat. itey says— foundation? ian don't know about that. roy says the— foundation? ian don't know about that. roy says the answer is simme— that. roy says the answer is simple defund_ that. roy says the answer is simple defund the bbc from pattie— simple defund the bbc from eatiie ney— simple defund the bbc from public money. it— simple defund the bbc from public money. it can then earn its — public money. it can then earn its keen— public money. it can then earn its own. keep on— public money. it can then earn its own. keep on its merit. yes tne— its own. keep on its merit. yes tne eetane— its own. keep on its merit. yes the defund the— its own. keep on its merit. yes the defund the bbc campaign did get gaite— the defund the bbc campaign did get gaite a— the defund the bbc campaign did get gaite a tet— the defund the bbc campaign did get quite a lot of— the defund the bbc campaign did get quite a lot of wind under its satis— get quite a lot of wind under its sails for— get quite a lot of wind under its sails for a— get quite a lot of wind under its sails for a while. i'm not

it— its sails for a while. i'm not it seems— its sails for a while. i'm not sure it seems to— its sails for a while. i'm not sure it seems to have sort of gene— sure it seems to have sort of gene a— sure it seems to have sort of gene a tit.— sure it seems to have sort of gone a bit, gone— sure it seems to have sort of gone a bit, gone a bit quiet, perhap5-_ gone a bit, gone a bit quiet, eernaes. kne— gone a bit, gone a bit quiet, perhaps. and david says it may not perhaps. and david says it may net te— perhaps. and david says it may not be government run, but it nas— not be government run, but it nas an— not be government run, but it has an editorial— not be government run, but it has an editorial policy which is iettist. — has an editorial policy which is iettist. its— has an editorial policy which is leftist. it's leftist— has an editorial policy which is leftist. it's leftist ,_ has an editorial policy which is leftist. it's leftist , but it's leftist. it's leftist, but it's aise— leftist. it's leftist, but it's also unbalanced in the presentation- also unbalanced in the presentation of opposing views, siieneing— presentation of opposing views, siteneing tne— presentation of opposing views, silencing the voices it doesn't want— silencing the voices it doesn't want neare. — silencing the voices it doesn't want neare. i— silencing the voices it doesn't want heard. i remember that. kna— want heard. i remember that. and yea— want heard. i remember that. and yea witt— want heard. i remember that. and you will also— want heard. i remember that. and you will also know- want heard. i remember that. and you will also know that alastair campbell, who was tony blair's head of communications and director of communications , and director of communications, and director of communications, and peter mandelson, now lord mandelson , when labour were in mandelson, when labour were in power , used to spend most of power, used to spend most of their time shouting at the bbc, claiming that they were biased against the labour party. so, you know , you're never going to you know, you're never going to please the party in government . please the party in government. and i think that means that they're probably getting it about right. and corbynistas about right. and the corbynistas didn't like them too much ehhen didn't like them too much either, right? moving is it either, right? moving on. is it time— either, right? moving on. is it time-tanned— either, right? moving on. is it time-banned under- either, right? moving on. is it time-banned under 16- time we banned under 16 attegetner— time we banned under 16 altogether from using smartphones? that's the view of parenting— smartphones? that's the view of parenting greate— smartphones? that's the view of parenting great as— smartphones? that's the view of parenting group us for them and tney-re— parenting group us for them and tney-re taekee— parenting group us for them and they're backed by— parenting group us for them and they're backed by katharine nirtaisingn— they're backed by katharine birbalsingh,-is- they're backed by katharine birbalsingh, is regarded as birbalsingh, who is regarded as nritain-s— birbalsingh, who is regarded as britain's strictest— birbalsingh, who is regarded as britain's strictest head who's metnees— britain's strictest head who's methods have— britain's strictest head who's methods have won plenty of

praise. — methods have won plenty of praise. ine— methods have won plenty of praise. the group thinks the aeeietiwe— praise. the group thinks the- addictive-smartphones addictive nature of smartphones can addictive nature of smartphones ean—iseiatee- addictive nature of smartphones can—isolated and- can leave kids isolated and depressed.— can leave kids isolated and depressed. they— can leave kids isolated and depressed. they want them banned and aise— depressed. they want them banned and also plastered— depressed. they want them banned and also plastered with the type of and also plastered with the type et neattn — and also plastered with the type of health warnings you see on eigarette— of health warnings you see on cigarette packets.— of health warnings you see on cigarette packets. martin right .keae— cigarette packets. martin right .you're a family— cigarette packets. martin right .you're a family man. yes. how do .you're a family man. yes. how are yea— .you're a family man. yes. how are yea keen— .you're a family man. yes. how are yea keee year— .you're a family man. yes. how do you keep your children under eentrei— do you keep your children under eentrei wnen — do you keep your children under control when it— do you keep your children under control when it comes to screen timee — control when it comes to screen timee vea— control when it comes to screen time? you basically- control when it comes to screen time? /rt catty time? you basically just discipline when they're allowed to it. you make sure that to have it. you make sure that you do it when you're in the same room. so my son is 13, not quite 16 yet, but basically he doesn't have a phone in his room, doesn't have a computer in his room, doesn't have an ipad in a communal in his room. it's a communal device. he's allowed to use it. when we're around. i think that's thing as for that's a sensible thing as for this legislation, for them this legislation, as for them and katharine birbalsingh are incredible campaigners and they care about children's care deeply about children's well—being. both well—being. in fact, they both were quite isolated in speaking out about the damage of lockdowns masks vaccines lockdowns and masks and vaccines and on kids back in the and all that on kids back in the day. think their position day. and i think their position comes from one genuinely comes from one of genuinely caring welfare of caring about the welfare of young i've interviewed young people. i've interviewed katharine and to me, katharine and she said to me, 90% arguments in schools now 90% of arguments in schools now start because of social media,

because of smartphones. and it's a direct cause of bullying, banning them all together. it's impossible . we can't even ban impossible. we can't even ban drugs. how the hell are we going to ban phones? that's the problem. kids will find a way where there's a will, there's a way. there be somebody to way. there will be somebody to prepared them. i'm prepared supply it to them. i'm also kind of also against that kind of authoritarian but in authoritarian control. but in schools, i think there's a solid for case removing phones. in fact , there's evidence in spain fact, there's evidence in spain where they did this 2015, in where they did this in 2015, in two regions. so they have a unique situation they unique situation where they could it against the rest could test it against the rest of the country and where there were phones in schools, were no phones in schools, children the of an children over the course of an academic were putting an academic year were putting on an extra they scoring 10 extra year. they were scoring 10 or in science and or 12% extra in science and maths. that or 12% extra in science and maths . that doesn't surprise me maths. that doesn't surprise me aetaaiiy.— maths. that doesn't surprise me aetaaiiy-tney- maths. that doesn't surprise me actually,-they are - maths. that doesn't surprise me actually,-they are just. actually, because they are just so distracted.— actually, because they are just so distracted. correct. the eretiem — so distracted. correct. the eretiem .— so distracted. correct. the problem , though, joe, is that problem, though, joe, is that tne— problem, though, joe, is that me parents— problem, though, joe, is that the parents and— problem, though, joe, is that the parents and adults are just as eae— the parents and adults are just as tat new— the parents and adults are just as bad now, aren't— the parents and adults are just as bad now, aren't they? well, yes— as bad now, aren't they? well, yes . — as bad now, aren't they? well, yes . kna— as bad now, aren't they? well, yes . and i— as bad now, aren't they? well, yes. and i think,— as bad now, aren't they? well, yes. and i think, you- as bad now, aren't they? well, yes . '“r: t yes. and i think, you know, it's i totally agree. banning them is absolutely bonkers and pointless . and it wouldn't work for reasons that martin said. and it

is about how you as a parent or a grandparent or as a teacher or a grandparent or as a teacher or a carer or whatever , deal with a carer or whatever, deal with it. but if you're a child walking along or in the car park or in a pushchair, even , and all or in a pushchair, even, and all you see is your parents on the phone or playing on the phone , phone or playing on the phone, you know, it's got to start at monkey see monkey do. and i absolutely and i think, you know, i do think there is a place for digital technology and i think they can be as in the same way as television. you know people said, oh, you can't have television. it's terrible . it's television. it's terrible. it's going to destroy kids. you know, they're all going to turn out to be monsters and all the rest of it, they? well i don't it, haven't they? well i don't know actually , know. but, you know, actually, if you sit with the child and it's like reading a book, if you play it's like reading a book, if you play games with them, you can now talk to nanny or something on a facetime or stuff like that, or cousins and uncles and aunts. we shouldn't just sort of

throw the baby out with the bathwater. but we do need to recognise and i think certainly we nobody at primary school should be having what's the thing at your son's school then? martin if you don't mind me asking , are they allowed to have asking, are they allowed to have phones or because most places won't let have them, won't let them have them, they're allowed to take them won't let them have them, they schoolwed to take them won't let them have them, they school . and take them won't let them have them, they school . and actually,m won't let them have them, they school . and actually, a lot into school. and actually, a lot of into school. and actually, a lot et parents— into school. and actually, a lot et parents are— into school. and actually, a lot of parents are really— t and actually, a lot of parents are really insistent tnat— of parents are really insistent tnat tneir— of parents are really insistent that their children do have enenes— that their children do have phones because tracking phones because of tracking them and phones because of tracking them ant—safety- and getting parental safety tat— and getting parental safety issue, but they're not allowed to issue, but they're not allowed te-eat. — issue, but they're not allowed te-eat. wean.- issue, but they're not allowed to out. yeah, certainly issue, but they're not allowed to classrooms(eah, certainly issue, but they're not allowed to classrooms .eah, certainly issue, but they're not allowed to classrooms . of certainly issue, but they're not allowed to classrooms . of courseily not in classrooms. of course kits— not in classrooms. of course kies ee. — not in classrooms. of course kids do. yeah,— not in classrooms. of course kids do. yeah, that's the issue, isn-t— kids do. yeah, that's the issue, isn-t ite— kids do. yeah, that's the issue, isn-t ite try— kids do. yeah, that's the issue, isn't it? my cousin's mrs. earetine.— isn't it? my cousin's mrs. caroline. she's- isn't it? my cousin's mrs. caroline. she's a headteacher in vaaxnati.— caroline. she's a headteacher in vauxhall,-down_ caroline. she's a headteacher in vauxhall, down the road, vauxhall, just down the road, ane— vauxhall, just down the road, and sne— vauxhall, just down the road, and she won't— vauxhall, just down the road, and she won't allow any phones or and she won't allow any phones term-— and she won't allow any phones at. in— and she won't allow any phones at. in tne— and she won't allow any phones or in in the morning. in or checked in in the morning. in a ieeken— or checked in in the morning. in a locker. you're— or checked in in the morning. in a locker. you're not— or checked in in the morning. in a locker. you're not allowed to nave— a locker. you're not allowed to nave tnem— a locker. you're not allowed to have them all— a locker. you're not allowed to have them all day. and she says the have them all day. and she says tne parents— have them all day. and she says the parents don't— have them all day. and she says the parents don't like it. go to a titterent— the parents don't like it. go to a different school. “ctr a different school. she sounds very— a different school. she sounds very sensible, seems to very sensible, but that seems to be the answer that does seem to be the answer that does seem to be answer. i'm concerned by be the answer. i'm concerned by what psychologist that's what this psychologist that's cited an article in the cited in in an article in the telegraph this drive to telegraph about this drive to potentially ban banned smartphones, worried about potentially ban banned smewell, nes, worried about potentially ban banned smewell, nes, brainsorried about

potentially ban banned smewell, nes, brains arezd about the well, how brains are affected by constantly being on screens in terms of attention span. kids can't , you know, span. kids can't, you know, listen to something for longer than a minute or two because they're on tick tock or they can't concentrate on reading a book, which obviously children used to do for fun far more , i used to do for fun far more, i would guess. and also things like depression, addiction problems , all of that. so all of problems, all of that. so all of that. and there— problems, all of that. so all of that. and there is— so all of that. and there is absolutely no team— that. and there is absolutely no eeatt tnat— that. and there is absolutely no eeatt tnat .— that. and there is absolutely no doubt that , you— that. and there is absolutely no doubt that , you know, bullying doubt that, you know, bullying andr— doubt that, you know, bullying ant. yea— doubt that, you know, bullying ane. yea knew.— doubt that, you know, bullying and, you know, particularly sex taitying— and, you know, particularly sex tattying in— and, you know, particularly sex bullying in secondary school eniieren— bullying in secondary school children and— bullying in secondary school children and younger starts with metiie— children and younger starts with metiie enenes— children and younger starts with mobile phones and it starts with seeiai— mobile phones and it starts with seeiai meeia— mobile phones and it starts with social media and— mobile phones and it starts with social media and it goes on tnreagn— social media and it goes on through social— social media and it goes on through social media. but, you knew.— through social media. but, you knew. wnen— through social media. but, you know, when you've got adults who use know, when you've got adults who seeiai— know, when you've got adults who use social media— know, when you've got adults who use social media to— know, when you've got adults who use social media to be offensive , use social media to be offensive . rate.— use social media to be offensive . rate. atasiwe— use social media to be offensive , rude, abusive and— use social media to be offensive , rude, abusive and threatening, but , rude, abusive and threatening, tat tne— , rude, abusive and threatening, but the trouble— , rude, abusive and threatening, but the trouble was the aatnerity— but the trouble was the authority . _ but the trouble was the authority . t but the trouble was the authority . . authority. but precisely the trouble with prohibition and teenagers, it's never worked and it won't ever work. it doesn't work. it won't ever work. it doesn't werk. nat— it won't ever work. it doesn't werk. nat i— it won't ever work. it doesn't work. but i do— it won't ever work. it doesn't work. but i do feel- . rritr“ . it doesn't work. but i do feel sorry . writ“ . it doesn't work. but i do feel sorry for eniteren— work. but i do feel sorry for children and— work. but i do feel sorry for children and teenagers. these stays.— children and teenagers. these days tney— children and teenagers. these days iney ean-t— children and teenagers. these days. they can't get away from the days. they can't get away from me taities— days. they can't get away from the bullies, can't— days. they can't get away from the bullies, can't get away from

the bullies, can't get away from me eenstant— the bullies, can't get away from the constant body— the bullies, can't get away from the constant body image eretiems— the constant body image problems, tock, problems, the tick tock, ewerytning — problems, the tick tock, everything but everything. anyway.— everything but everything. anyway. w-wee— everything but everything. anyway, we've got on. anyway, we've got to move on. serry— anyway, we've got to move on. serry seaw— anyway, we've got to move on. serry serry. we— anyway, we've got to move on. sorry sorry. we could have seeken— sorry sorry. we could have seeken-tnat- sorry sorry. we could have spoken that much spoken about that for much tenger. — spoken about that for much longer. .can't- spoken about that for much . longer. .can't concentrate spoken about that for much - longer. .can't concentrate . longer. you can't concentrate. i longer. you can't concentrate. i-eeneentrate. — longer. you can't concentrate. i-concentrate. coming - longer. /rt tr?" e i concentrate. coming the i can't concentrate. coming the eeninaest— i can't concentrate. coming the row continues over— i can't concentrate. coming the row continues over labour's attaek— row continues over labour's attaek aes. — row continues over labour's attack ads. but— row continues over labour's attack ads. but who comes out worse from all— attack ads. but who comes out worse from all this vitriol? iatear— worse from all this vitriol? iatear er— worse from all this vitriol? labour or the— worse from all this vitriol? labour or the tories? don't go anywnere. — labour or the tories? don't go anywnere. try— labour or the tories? don't go anywhere. my panel are about to give— anywhere. my panel are about to give tneir— anywhere. my panel are about to give their verdict— anywhere. my panel are about to give their verdict .—

hello. welcome back to dewbs& co witn— hello. welcome back to dewbs& co witn me— hello. welcome back to dewbs& co witn tmiiy— hello. welcome back to dewbs& co with me, emily carver, keeping me eemeany— with me, emily carver, keeping me eemeany .— with me, emily carver, keeping me company. still until 7:00 is joe me company. still until 7:00 is be entities.— me company. still until 7:00 is joe phillips, political commentator and of course, waitin— commentator and of course, martin daubney,— commentator and of course, martin daubney, the journalist and termer— martin daubney, the journalist and former brexit party mep . and former brexit party mep. now:— and former brexit party mep. wew. yae— and former brexit party mep. now, you've been getting in team— now, you've been getting in team .— now, you've been getting in team . it— now, you've been getting in touch . it seems— now, you've been getting in touch . it seems that perhaps touch. it seems that perhaps tne— touch. it seems that perhaps we're the we're— touch. it seems that perhaps we're the we're the luddites, tne— we're the we're the luddites, we're the authoritarians in this conversation. an— we're the authoritarians in this conversation. an it seems like yea— conversation. an it seems like yea at— conversation. an it seems like yea at neme— conversation. an it seems like you at home think that, well, smartenenes— you at home think that, well, smartphones are— you at home think that, well, smartphones are beneficial for young— smartphones are beneficial for young pimple-— smartphones are beneficial for young people. john says my granesen— young people. john says my grandson smartphone in grandson had a smartphone in aged— grandson had a smartphone in

aged seve— grandson had a smartphone in aged seven. he's— grandson had a smartphone in aged seven. he's already eregramming— aged seven. he's already programming. this is vital for his development— programming. this is vital for his development for the future. new— his development for the future. new witt— his development for the future. new witiltey— his development for the future. how will boy starting at 16 how will a boy starting at 16 eaten— how will a boy starting at 16 ever catch up?— how will a boy starting at 16 ever catch up? that's very ever catch up? that's a very geee— ever catch up? that's a very geee eeint. — ever catch up? that's a very good point. you— ever catch up? that's a very good point. you seven. rt; good point. you seven. he's pro programming. yeah. blind me. well, maybe he's a little genius or well, maybe he's a little genius er-iast— well, maybe he's a little genius er-iast nemai— well, maybe he's a little genius or just normal now, you or this is just normal now, you knew—wett- or this is just normal now, you knew—weir. it- or this is just normal now, you know _well, if youi know, ellis says, well, if you tan— know, ellis says, well, if you ban smartphones , you may as well ban smartphones, you may as well ban smartphones, you may as well tan—teeaase— ban smartphones, you may as well ban—because that- ban computers because that is all ban computers because that is art—a- ban computers because that isi air—a eemeater ban computers because that is. all—a computer. all a smartphone is a computer. yest— all a smartphone is a computer. kes. tat— all a smartphone is a computer. kes. tat its— all a smartphone is a computer. yes, but it's not— all a smartphone is a computer. yes, but it's not with you eenstantiy. — yes, but it's not with you constantly. we- yes, but it's not with you constantly. we know they have tnese—ean-t- constantly. we know they have these—can't get. these phones. they can't get away— these phones. they can't get away trem — these phones. they can't get away from the _ these phones. they can't get away from the bullying and they ean-t— away from the bullying and they ean-t-trem — away from the bullying and they can't-from the- away from the bullying and they can't from the images. can't get away from the images. iney-re— can't get away from the images. more—witn.- can't get away from the images. they're _with. they. can't get away from the images. they' get with. they can't get away from the images. they' get away with. they can't get away from the images. they' get away from with. they can't get away from the images. they' get away from the they can't get away from the images. they' get away from the constant can't get away from the constant communication.— can't get away from the constant communication. imagine communication. i can't imagine wnat—teen- communication. i can't imaginel what—been like. what that would have been like. oh, what that would have been like. ten-iike— what that would have been like. ten-iike it— what that would have been like. oh,-like if-prank. oh, awful. like if i got prank eatis— oh, awful. like if i got prank eatis every— oh, awful. like if i got prank calls every now— oh, awful. like if i got prank calls every now and again or did tnings— calls every now and again or did tnings iike— calls every now and again or did things like that,— calls every now and again or did things like that, but not not eenstant— things like that, but not not constant, constant . constantly constant, constant. constantly reente— constant, constant. constantly eeeete kits— constant, constant. constantly eeeete kits are— constant, constant. constantly people kids are added to wnatskee— people kids are added to whatsapp groups where they're tnen— whatsapp groups where they're then bullied.— whatsapp groups where they're then bullied. so— whatsapp groups where they're then bullied. so just added to a group— then bullied. so just added to a great tattiee— then bullied. so just added to a group bullied and— then bullied. so just added to a group bullied and then dropped wnatever— group bullied and then dropped wnatever its— group bullied and then dropped whatever it's just— group bullied and then dropped whatever it's just hideous . whatever it's just hideous. wean.— whatever it's just hideous. wean. peter— whatever it's just hideous. yeah. peter says it's not the gevements— yeah. peter says it's not the government's job to restrict smartenenes— government's job to restrict smartphones for children . it is smartphones for children. it is the smartphones for children. it is me parents— smartphones for children. it is the parents responsibility. parents— the parents responsibility. parents should be held accountable _ parents should be held accountable for their child's asage—yea- accountable for their child's asage—yea ge.| usage. well, there you go. waitin— usage. well, there you go. martin-strict-

usage. well, there you go. martin strict parent, so martin is the strict parent, so ne-s— martin is the strict parent, so me eeing— martin is the strict parent, so he's doing that.— martin is the strict parent, so he's doing that. so there you 90-— he's doing that. so there you ge—meve- he's doing that. so there you ge—meve en- he's doing that. so there you. go._move on .our go. right we'll move on to our tinat— go. right we'll move on to our tinat teete— go. right we'll move on to our final topic. it's— go. right we'll move on to our final topic. it's time to settle tnis— final topic. it's time to settle tnis erree— final topic. it's time to settle this once and— final topic. it's time to settle this once and for— final topic. it's time to settle this once and for all. all weekend.— this once and for all. all. weekend,_been weekend, people have been eetating— weekend, people have been debating controversial debating labour's controversial ads debating labour's controversial aes—tnel ads of course, attacking the prime — ads of course, attacking the prime-rishi - ads of course, attacking the prime rishi sunak ads of course, attacking the. prime-rishi sunak on prime minister. rishi sunak on his prime minister. rishi sunak on nis reeere— prime minister. rishi sunak on nis reeere en— prime minister. rishi sunak on his record on crime, on edifying start.— his record on crime, on edifying start. remains.— his record on crime, on edifying stuff, perhaps. but— his record on crime, on edifying stuff, perhaps. but who comes out stuff, perhaps. but who comes eat-ine— stuff, perhaps. but who comes out-the tories- stuff, perhaps. but who comes out-the tories ,- stuff, perhaps. but who comes out the tories , because out worst? the tories, because tneir— out worst? the tories, because tneir reeere— out worst? the tories, because their record on— out worst? the tories, because their record on crime comes anter— their record on crime comes under scrutiny,— their record on crime comes under scrutiny, or labour teeaase— under scrutiny, or labour because they _ under scrutiny, or labour because they are seen as iewering— because they are seen as lowering the _ because they are seen as lowering the tone . joe, what do lowering the tone. joe, what do you— lowering the tone. joe, what do yea tninke— lowering the tone. joe, what do yea tninke i— lowering the tone. joe, what do you think? i think— lowering the tone. joe, what do you think? i think it's very bad for you think? i think it's very bad ter eetities— you think? i think it's very bad for politics generally because i tnink— for politics generally because i tnink a— for politics generally because i tnink a tet— for politics generally because i think a lot of— for politics generally because i think a lot of people thought, you— think a lot of people thought, yea knew.— think a lot of people thought, you know, we've— think a lot of people thought, you know, we've got rid of the arena— you know, we've got rid of the enema ane— you know, we've got rid of the drama and the— you know, we've got rid of the drama and the chaos and the nonsense of johnson and truss . nonsense of johnson and truss. wakes— nonsense of johnson and truss. awkus keir— nonsense of johnson and truss. aukus keir starmer_ nonsense of johnson and truss. aukus keir starmer could- nonsense of johnson and truss. aukus keir starmer could have perfectly easily had a poster or a picture of rishi sunak with those two that i've just mentioned. and dominic raab and jeremy hunt saying they're all the same. nothing's changed. it's true. and i think that this bnngs it's true. and i think that this brings down to the level, well, it's hard to think of anybody sinking to the level of boris johnson when he accused keir starmer of not prosecuting jemmy savile, which was a new low even for him . i don't think this has

for him. i don't think this has done the labour party any favours, but i'm really concerned that people go, concerned that people will go, oh, both as bad as each oh, they're both as bad as each other. i'm not going to bother to vote. and that's a real problem . we'll be quite problem. we'll be quite interesting.— we'll be quite interesting. what turnout at we'll be quite intelocalg. what turnout at we'll be quite intelocalelectionernout at we'll be quite intelocal elections and it at we'll be quite inte local elections and you've the local elections and you've got— the local elections and you've get te— the local elections and you've get te nave— the local elections and you've got to have your— the local elections and you've got to have your id card and yae— got to have your id card and ye get— got to have your id card and ye get te— got to have your id card and you've got to have your id card. wett— you've got to have your id card. weti. eernaes— you've got to have your id card. well, perhaps we'll debate that on well, perhaps we'll debate that ensew-n — well, perhaps we'll debate that on-show. don't- well, perhaps we'll debate that on show. don't have time on another show. don't have time to on another show. don't have time te-tnat— on another show. don't have time te-tnatltnis— on another show. don't have time to-thatithis one,- to debate that on this one, tneagn.— to debate that on this one, though, martin.— to debate that on this one, though, martin. it's also remains— though, martin. it's also eernaes-tit- perhaps a little bit of a mistake— perhaps a little bit of a mistake because the is mistake because the light is being— mistake because the light is being snene— mistake because the light is being shone now on not only the rates— being shone now on not only the ieries reeere— being shone now on not only the ieries reeere .— being shone now on not only the tories record , but— being shone now on not only the tories record , but also keir tories record, but also keir sterner-s— tories record, but also keir starmer's record when it comes to starmer's record when it comes te senteneing— starmer's record when it comes to sentencing and— starmer's record when it comes to sentencing and deciding those gaieeiines— to sentencing and deciding those gaieetines. — to sentencing and deciding those guidelines. yeah,— to sentencing and deciding those guidelines. yeah, i— to sentencing and deciding those guidelines . / to sentencing and deciding those guidelines. / guidelines. yeah, i think the problem with going on the attack like this is that you can't throw stones if you live in a glass house. keir starmer's record on grooming gangs was terrible. labour councils turning a blind eye to thousands of white working class girls sexually abused . for years. the sexually abused. for years. the labour party didn't want to be, but that was not. oh, hang on a sec. that's a labour labour party, right? and then he's attacking them on violent crime. the most violent crime in

britain in london. sadiq khan britain is in london. sadiq khan is mayor you know, so is a labour mayor you know, so these have happened on these things have happened on labour all the time. these things have happened on labrnot all the time. these things have happened on labrnot going all the time. these things have happened on labrnot going totll the time. these things have happened on labrnot going to move time. these things have happened on labrnot going to move on. e. these things have happened on labrnot going to move on. we it's not going to move on. we believe today's times believe in this. today's times too. tories record too. the tories record on trashing economy. keir trashing the economy. well, keir starmer while starmer clapped along while lockdown payments were put through while furlough bankrupted country while the bankrupted the country while the economy because economy was crashing because it was he wanted all was locked down. he wanted all of to. what's going to of that to. what's it going to say? does does rishi sunak care ateat— say? does does rishi sunak care ateat erasning— say? does does rishi sunak care about crushing the— , does does rishi sunak care about crushing the economy? he eeesn-t. — about crushing the economy? he eeesn-t. i— about crushing the economy? he doesn't. i think— about crushing the economy? he doesn't. i think it's— about crushing the economy? he doesn't. i think it's i- about crushing the economy? he doesn't. i think it's i think it's i can see why they're doing it. i just think they focus group or whoever decided that it was a good idea has not really stopped to think that actually people are fed up with abusive personal attacks. what they want and what people i think have crave for is a bit of boring normality. whilst everything gets back to something resembling. ithink gets back to something resembling. i think thing about itisni— resembling. i think thing about itisni sanak— resembling. i think thing about rishi sunak is— resembling. i think thing about rishi sunak is he's— “g i think thing about rishi sunak is he's many things i'm rishi sunak is he's many things in ne— rishi sunak is he's many things in ne tan— rishi sunak is he's many things in ne tan et— rishi sunak is he's many things i'm no fan of rishi, but he comes across— i'm no fan of rishi, but he comes across as- i'm no fan of rishi, but he comes across as a decent nenearatte— comes across as a decent honourable public servant, not the honourable public servant, not me sen— honourable public servant, not me sert et— honourable public servant, not me sert et gay— honourable public servant, not the sort of guy that you would go the sort of guy that you would ge atten—

the sort of guy that you would ge atter in— the sort of guy that you would go after in this— the sort of guy that you would go after in this personal way. eens— go after in this personal way. boris johnson— go after in this personal way. boris johnson yeah, i mean open season, he's been,— boris johnson yeah, i mean open season, he's been, he's been rate— season, he's been, he's been raee te— season, he's been, he's been raee te kein— season, he's been, he's been rude to keir, but— season, he's been, he's been rude to keir, but severe was wnat— rude to keir, but severe was we ne— rude to keir, but severe was what he called— rude to keir, but severe was what he called him. �*frit;.. rude to keir, but severe was what he called him. �*fviitgt what he called him. well, he's the british public like a bully and i think starmer comes across like a bully. i think it's semeteey. — t i think it's somebody. marina hyde in the eaareian— somebody. marina hyde in the guardian wrote— somebody. marina hyde in the guardian wrote yesterday. what was guardian wrote yesterday. what tnat— guardian wrote yesterday. what was that awful— guardian wrote yesterday. what was that awful thud ? sir keir was that awful thud? sir keir stamen— was that awful thud? sir keir starmer falling— was that awful thud? sir keir starmer falling off his high nerse — starmer falling off his high horse. _that- starmer falling off his high horse. _that is- starmer falling off his high horse. starmer falling off his high. horse. _that is true. and horse. well, that is true. and that's good see written that's good to see that written in guardian. actually in the guardian. actually because there has been quite a lot love, love for keir lot of love, blind love for keir starmer, perhaps just because he isn't a conservative maybe, and he's not jeremy corbyn and he's not jeremy corbyn, of course. crucially, graham at home you say the truth is that this ad is not true and it's offensive. well, that's the know, well, yes, that's the you know, it's true. labour are it's not true. labour are clearly worried that is clearly worried that rishi is making labour making progress. even labour members with ads members don't agree with the ads we're seeing the real starmer. his halo has slipped. well, there you go. that was what joe was max says this is was saying. max says this is typical starmer sleaze party typical of starmer sleaze party over the last years. typical over the last few years. typical lawyer if you have lawyer tactics, i.e. if you have nothing in your defence, then make something on make up something defamatory on the opposition . yes. is this

the opposition. yes. is this a lawyer at work? yeah. and maggie inatenere— lawyer at work? yeah. and maggie thatcher? didn't— lawyer at work? yeah. and maggie thatcher? didn't she— lawyer at work? yeah. and maggie thatcher? didn't she say,- , yeah. and maggie thatcher? didn't she say, you knew.— thatcher? didn't she say, you knew. yea— thatcher? didn't she say, you know, you know,— thatcher? didn't she say, you know, you know, you're winning wnen— know, you know, you're winning wnen tney-re — know, you know, you're winning when they're attacking you eersenatiy— personally because they've ran out personally because they've ran eat et— personally because they've ran eat et tnings— personally because they've ran out of things to— personally because they've ran out of things to get you on, on ideas.— out of things to get you on, on ideas—is- out of things to get you on, on ideas—is a- out of things to get you on, on ideas—is aleti ideas. i think there is a bit of mat.— ideas. i think there is a bit of tnat. it— ideas. i think there is a bit of that. it doesn't— ideas. i think there is a bit of that. it doesn't feel like. keir starmer— that. it doesn't feel like. keir starmer it— that. it doesn't feel like. keir starmer it feels— that. it doesn't feel like. keir starmer it feels like the taekreem— starmer it feels like the backroom - are - starmer it feels like the backroom are taking over. backroom boys are taking over. iney-ve— backroom boys are taking over. they've _australia - backroom boys are taking over. they've australia and they've been to australia and taken— they've been to australia and taken-iney-ve- they've been to australia and taken they've been taken our voice. they've been to ameriea— taken our voice. they've been to ameriea ane— taken our voice. they've been to america and taken— taken our voice. they've been to america and taken the advice of the america and taken the advice of tne-eameaign— america and taken the advice of the campaign. those the biden campaign. those eeamnes— countries have very different eetitieai— political aggressive attack vieee—i- political aggressive attackl video _i think video style politics. i think tne—iike- video style politics. i think the—like this. i video style politics. i think the—like this. it| the brits don't like this. it eeesn-t— the brits don't like this. it doesn't feel— the brits don't like this. it doesn't feel queensberry rule. semeene—tnel someone else is pulling the strings. — someone else is pulling the strings. .feels_ someone else is pulling the strings. .feels not- someone else is pulling thei strings. .feels not-a strings. it feels not to be a conspiracy theorist, but clearly taking direction. and i agree. i ten-t— taking direction. and i agree. i een-t-eeesn-t— taking direction. and i agree. i don't-doesn't-the- don't this doesn't feel the aatnentie— don't this doesn't feel the authentic voice- don't this doesn't feel the authentic voice of keir starmer to authentic voice of keir starmer te me— authentic voice of keir starmer te me .— authentic voice of keir starmer te me . kne— authentic voice of keir starmer te me . and i— authentic voice of keir starmer to me . and i understand that, to me. and i understand that, you— to me. and i understand that, yea knew.— to me. and i understand that, you know, yvette— to me. and i understand that, you know, yvette cooper, the snaeew— you know, yvette cooper, the shadow home— you know, yvette cooper, the shadow home secretary, was not aware-mis— shadow home secretary, was not awareltnis. wew— shadow home secretary, was not aware this. now we've just aware of this. now we've just seen-thornberry- aware of this. now we've just seen thornberry defending seen emily thornberry defending it. nat— seen emily thornberry defending it. nat iaey— seen emily thornberry defending it. but lucy powell , the shadow it. but lucy powell, the shadow eaitare— it. but lucy powell, the shadow culture secretary,— it. but lucy powell, the shadow culture secretary, had a very tittieait— culture secretary, had a very difficult job _ culture secretary, had a very difficult job trying to defend tmiiy— difficult job trying to defend emily thornberry. .. : t emily thornberry. this doesn't teet— emily thornberry. this doesn't feel like starmer, but will the real keir starmer please stand up? am begging him because up? i am begging him because i think a lot of people we saw the polling the day saying

polling the other day saying that think he lacks a that people think he lacks a vision. what he vision. they don't know what he stands he's kind of stands for. he's kind of creeping conservative creeping into conservative territory. back the territory. and then back to the left again. really knows left again. no one really knows . but that's a good point teeaase— . but that's a good point teeaase yea— but that's a good point because you can attack somebody eseis— because you can attack somebody eseis ieeas— because you can attack somebody eseis ieeas .— because you can attack somebody else's ideas . but— because you can attack somebody else's ideas . but to— because you can attack somebody else's ideas . but to not like an else's ideas. but to not like an idea— else's ideas. but to not like an idea isn-t— else's ideas. but to not like an idea isn't the— else's ideas. but to not like an idea isn't the same thing as naving— idea isn't the same thing as naving an— idea isn't the same thing as having an idea— idea isn't the same thing as having an idea .— idea isn't the same thing as having an idea . where do you having an idea. where do you stand— having an idea. where do you stand en— having an idea. where do you stand en en— having an idea. where do you stand on on stopping the boat? wnere— stand on on stopping the boat? wnerelyea— stand on on stopping the boat? where-you stand— stand on on stopping the boat? where you stand on turning where do you stand on turning the where do you stand on turning me eenemy— where do you stand on turning the economy around? where do you stand—en— the economy around? where do you stand _on cutting - stand on inflation, on cutting gun— stand on inflation, on cuttingi gan—yea gun crime then? because you eant— gun crime then? because you ean-t ee— gun crime then? because you ean-t tie it— gun crime then? because you ean-t tie it in— gun crime then? because you can't do it in london. so give us can't do it in london. so give as-eeiieies.— can't do it in london. so give us-policies,-us- can't do it in london. so give us policies, us your us your policies, give us your ideas.— us your policies, give us your ideas-tne— us your policies, give us your iteas-tne eiay- us your policies, give us your ideas, the play the ball ideas, play the play the ball ane— ideas, play the play the ball and step— ideas, play the play the ball and stop playing the man. a last were— and stop playing the man. a last weralyea. wett— and stop playing the man. a last word-you. well, we've- and stop playing the man. ' : well, we've had 13 word to you. well, we've had 13 yeas— word to you. well, we've had 13 yeas we— word to you. well, we've had 13 yeas we knew— word to you. well, we've had 13 years. we know what— : well, we've had 13 years. we know what the tories do years. we know what the tories ee ane— years. we know what the tories tie and tney-ve— years. we know what the tories do and they've pretty much messee— do and they've pretty muchl messed _well, messed everything up. well, tnere—tet- messed everything up. well,| there—let people messed everything up. well,- there_let people at there you go. i'll let people at home decide. yes, we'll see what happens at the ballot box. but anyway, you very much anyway, thank you very much indeed wonderful panel, indeed to my wonderful panel, joe martin daubney. joe phillips and martin daubney. i agree they've joe phillips and martin daubney. i fantasticigree they've joe phillips and martin daubney. i fantastic asae they've joe phillips and martin daubney. i fantastic as always. ie been fantastic as always. michelle will be back tomorrow . michelle will be back tomorrow. she'll be in this seat back from skegness or skeg vegas as she calls it. nigel farage is coming up at the top of the hour. so you won't want to miss that.

have a lovely evening. oh, hello there and greg dewhurst. and welcome to your latest- g“rt;”rt; t“r: citrg i and welcome to your latest broadcast trem— welcome to your latest broadcast teem-ortiee. — welcome to your latest broadcast from _office. .have. from the met office. we have wine— from the met office. we have wind warnings— from the met office. we have wind warnings in— from the met office. we have wind warnings in force for western— wind warnings in force for western parts— wind warnings in force for western parts of the uk through iaeseay— western parts of the uk through tuesday wednesday as an tuesday and on wednesday as an et— tuesday and on wednesday as an et kew— tuesday and on wednesday as an area of low pressure brings some wet ane— area of low pressure brings some wet and viney— area of low pressure brings some wet and windy weather to our snes— wet and windy weather to our snes ane— wet and windy weather to our shores and we— wet and windy weather to our shores and we see that shores and we can see that new— shores and we can see that nieeiy en— shores and we can see that nieeiy en tne— shores and we can see that nicely on the bigger picture. inis— nicely on the bigger picture. this—pressure. this area of low pressure winging— this area of low pressure bringing those- this area of low pressure bringing those strong winds, eattreaks— bringing those strong winds, outbreaks heavy rain, it outbreaks of heavy rain, it eeati— outbreaks of heavy rain, it eeaie teat— outbreaks of heavy rain, it could lead to— outbreaks of heavy rain, it could lead to local could lead to some local eisraetien— could lead to some local eisraetien .— could lead to some local disruption . could could lead to some local disruption .-could gusts disruption. we could see gusts of disruption. we could see gusts etlte— disruption. we could see gusts etlte so.— disruption. we could see gusts of.to 60, possibly- disruption. we could see gusts of to 60, possibly 70 miles of 50 to 60, possibly 70 miles an near— of 50 to 60, possibly 70 miles an hour around— of 50 to 60, possibly 70 miles an hour around some western ast— an hour around some western coasts over the— an hour around some western coasts over the coming days . a coasts over the coming days. a tairiy— coasts over the coming days. a tairty gaiet— coasts over the coming days. a fairly quiet evening after a tiveiy— fairly quiet evening after a lively afternoon, we some lively afternoon, we saw some eanties— lively afternoon, we saw some rumbles-thunder- lively afternoon, we saw some rumbles thunder during the rumbles of thunder during the earty— rumbles of thunder during the eariy nas— rumbles of thunder during the early hours. we— rumbles of thunder during the early hours. we will continue to see—outbreaks. early hours. we will continue to see—outbreaks of| early hours. we will continue to see|in_outbreaks of| early hours. we will continue to see in places outbreaks of early hours. we will continue to see in places , outbreaks of early hours. we will continue to see in places , but)utbreaks of early hours. we will continue to see in places , but the reaks of early hours. we will continue to see in places , but the plentyf rain in places, but the plenty of rain in places, but the plenty et eiear— rain in places, but the plenty of clear spells— rain in places, but the plenty of clear spells to— rain in places, but the plenty of clear spells to be turning gaite— of clear spells to be turning gaite enitiy. — of clear spells to be turning quite chilly. temperatures down to quite chilly. temperatures down te-singie— quite chilly. temperatures down to-single figures— quite chilly. temperatures down to single figures in the to low single figures in the tewns— to low single figures in the towns-cities,- to low single figures in the towns cities, perhaps towns and cities, perhaps a team— towns and cities, perhaps a team-grass.— towns and cities, perhaps a touch grass, frost to us touch of grass, frost to take us inte— touch of grass, frost to take us inte iaeseay— touch of grass, frost to take us into tuesday-but- touch of grass, frost to take us into tuesday but plenty into tuesday morning. but plenty of into tuesday morning. but plenty et-skies— into tuesday morning. but plenty et-skies te— into tuesday morning. but plenty of skies to compensate , but of blue skies to compensate, but some showers from _ of blue skies to compensate, but some showers from the word go tnis— some showers from the word go we tant— some showers from the word go we tend et— some showers from the word go this band of showery rain this band of more showery rain parts— this band of more showery rain across parts scotland, across parts of scotland, too, tat— across parts of scotland, too, tatlis— across parts of scotland, too, tatlis tne — across parts of scotland, too, butlis the thicker- across parts of scotland, too, but is the thicker cloud but it is the thicker cloud eattreaks— but it is the thicker cloud outbreaks of— but it is the thicker cloud outbreaks of rain that we're teeasing— outbreaks of rain that we're teeasing en— outbreaks of rain that we're focusing on as— outbreaks of rain that we're focusing on as we move through inte— focusing on as we move through inte-atterneen.-

focusing on as we move through into afternoon. some into tuesday afternoon. some very— into tuesday afternoon. some very streng— into tuesday afternoon. some very strong winds developing met ettiee— very strong winds developing met ettiee warning— very strong winds developing met office warning gusts of 50, 60, eessitiy— office warning gusts of 50, 60, eessitty even— office warning gusts of 50, 60, possibly even higher through the eeast— possibly even higher through the eeast et— possibly even higher through the coast of irish— possibly even higher through the coast of irish sea— possibly even higher through the coast of irish sea and some neavy— coast of irish sea and some neavy ram— coast of irish sea and some heavy rain accompanying this to temeeratares— heavy rain accompanying this to temperatures on— heavy rain accompanying this to temperatures on the chilly side, the temperatures on the chilly side, me test— temperatures on the chilly side, me test et— temperatures on the chilly side, the best of the— temperatures on the chilly side, the best of the sunshine holding on the best of the sunshine holding en tne— the best of the sunshine holding on across the north— the best of the sunshine holding on across the north and east. netere— on across the north and east. netere men.— on across the north and east. before then, the— on across the north and east. before then, the rain sweeps its way— before then, the rain sweeps its way nennwares— before then, the rain sweeps its way northwards during the evening— way northwards during the evening ane— way northwards during the evening and early hours, perhaps some snow over the scottish meantains— some snow over the scottish meantains te— some snow over the scottish mountains to blustery showers tetiewing— mountains to blustery showers teiiewing en— mountains to blustery showers following on behind into the eariy— following on behind into the eariy nears— following on behind into the early hours and _ following on behind into the early hours and wednesday merning— early hours and wednesday morning, some— early hours and wednesday morning, some of these could be neavy.— morning, some of these could be neavy. ine— morning, some of these could be heavy. the winds— morning, some of these could be heavy. the winds ease for a mem— heavy. the winds ease for a snert time.— heavy. the winds ease for a short time. this— heavy. the winds ease for a short time. this allows temperatures- short time. this allows temperatures to dip away to start— temperatures to dip away to start wednesday morning, but it went— start wednesday morning, but it went te— start wednesday morning, but it went tee ieng— start wednesday morning, but it won't be long before those winds wnie— won't be long before those winds wnie ae— won't be long before those winds wnie are again.— won't be long before those winds whip up again. bands of rain reamt— whip up again. bands of rain reamt trem— whip up again. bands of rain return from north and the return from the north and the west.— return from the north and the west-streng- return from the north and the west, strong winds west, bringing strong winds again.— west, bringing strong winds again-et— west, bringing strong winds again-er eo- west, bringing strong winds again. of 60 miles an hour again. gusts of 60 miles an hour eras— again. gusts of 60 miles an hour etas aeress— again. gusts of 60 miles an hour etas tne— again. gusts of 60 miles an hour plus across the south—west of tne— plus across the south—west of me wk.— plus across the south—west of the uk, accompanied by some neavy— the uk, accompanied by some heavy showers— the uk, accompanied by some heavy showers and rain in between.— heavy showers and rain in between. there- heavy showers and rain in between. there will be some trier— between. there will be some drier interludes— between. there will be some drier interludes ,_ between. there will be some drier interludes , some sunnier drier interludes, some sunnier seets— drier interludes, some sunnier seets-tne— drier interludes, some sunnier spots-the north- drier interludes, some sunnier spots the north and the spots across the north and the east— spots across the north and the east ane— spots across the north and the east and temperatures on the eeei— east and temperatures on the eeei site— east and temperatures on the eeei siee ter— east and temperatures on the cool side for the— east and temperatures on the cool side for the time of year. inen— cool side for the time of year. then sunshine— cool side for the time of year. then sunshine and showers for tnarseay— then sunshine and showers for tnarseay ane— then sunshine and showers for thursday and friday. temperatures a little below

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