tv Farage GB News April 11, 2023 7:00pm-8:00pm BST
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by |5y| late | bvl late. many late.- many stories late.— many stories tonight, tate- — many stories tonight, we'll talk about— many stories tonight, we'll talk about why— many stories tonight, we'll talk about why the — many stories tonight, we'll talk about why the queen wanted her grandsons— about why the queen wanted her grandsons to— about why the queen wanted her grandsons to fight— about why the queen wanted her grandsons to fight in afghanistan. �*ft�*tzge grandsons to fight in afghanistan. �*ft�*tz; a grandsons to fight in- afghanistan. we'll talk about clean air zones in our cities. are they really working or just pushing traffic elsewhere? but we'll begin with the story that 19 suspected terrorists are currently living in, four star hotels, having crossed the engush hotels, having crossed the english channel in small dinghies and that we won't be able to deport them. and i'll be asking the question, when will we wake up or do we just head towards disaster before all of that, let's get the news with polly middlehurst .
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that, let's get the news with polly middlehurst. nigel, thank you and good evening to you. our top story on gb news tontgtt— our top story on gb news tonight, police— our top story on gb news tonight, police in northern ttettnt— tonight, police in northern ireland have— tonight, police in northern ireland have recovered four suspected— ireland have recovered four euepeetet pipe_ ireland have recovered four suspected pipe bombs from a cemetery— suspected pipe bombs from a cemetery neu— suspected pipe bombs from a cemetery near londonderry tetteutug— cemetery near londonderry tetteutue e— cemetery near londonderry following a public safety epeutteu— following a public safety epetutteu .— following a public safety operation . the psni has called operation. the psni has called the uteeevetu— operation. the psni has called the discovery in— operation. the psni has called the discovery in creggan, made tutt— the discovery in creggan, made just toute— the discovery in creggan, made just hours before— the discovery in creggan, made just hours before the visit of teetteut— just hours before the visit of president joe _ just hours before the visit of president joe biden from the tuttet— president joe biden from the united states. _ president joe biden from the united states. a— president joe biden from the united states. a further etutetet— united states. a further sinister and— united states. a further sinister and worrying development . and it follows development. and it follows vteteut— development. and it follows violent scenes— development. and it follows violent scenes in— development. and it follows violent scenes in londonderry yesterday— violent scenes in londonderry yesterday where— violent scenes in londonderry yesterday where missiles were thrown — yesterday where missiles were thrown at— yesterday where missiles were thrown at police— yesterday where missiles were thrown at police cars during an ant— thrown at police cars during an anti agreement— thrown at police cars during an anti agreement republican march . wett— anti agreement republican march . wet the— anti agreement republican march . wet the us— anti agreement republican march . well, the us president says tee-e— . well, the us president says tee-e going— . well, the us president says tee-e getug te— . well, the us president says he's going to use— . well, the us president says he's going to use his visit to northern— he's going to use his visit to northern ireland— he's going to use his visit to northern ireland to keep the peace — northern ireland to keep the peace ae— northern ireland to keep the peace ac te— northern ireland to keep the peace. as he said, that was as he tett— peace. as he said, that was as he tett tte— peace. as he said, that was as he left the united— peace. as he said, that was as he left the united states for his he left the united states for tte taut— he left the united states for his four-trip.— he left the united states for his four-trip. joe- he left the united states for his four trip. joe biden is his four day trip. joe biden is now airborne— his four day trip. joe biden is now airborne on— his four day trip. joe biden is now airborne on his way to eettaet. — now airborne on his way to belfast. he's— now airborne on his way to belfast. he's due to land , we belfast. he's due to land, we understate,— belfast. he's due to land, we understand, just— belfast. he's due to land, we understand, just after 9:00 this eventup. — understand, just after 9:00 this eventup. aut— understand, just after 9:00 this evening. and tomorrow he'll be matttup— evening. and tomorrow he'll be matttup tte— evening. and tomorrow he'll be marking the 25th— evening. and tomorrow he'll be marking the 25th anniversary of the coat— marking the 25th anniversary of the good friday— marking the 25th anniversary of the good friday agreement when
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te-tt— the good friday agreement when te-tt te— the good friday agreement when te-tt be at— the good friday agreement when he'll be at stormont meeting the man— he'll be at stormont meeting the pettttcat— he'll be at stormont meeting the main political party leaders, as wett— main political party leaders, as uett ae— main political party leaders, as well as travelling _ main political party leaders, as well as travelling to the teputttc— well as travelling to the republic of— well as travelling to the republic of ireland. we'll have tutt— republic of ireland. we'll have tutt covetaep— republic of ireland. we'll have full coverage of— republic of ireland. we'll have full coverage of that, of. course,-on-now course, here on news. now toepttat— course, here on news. now hospital bosses— course, here on news. now hospital bosses say they're uoutet— hospital bosses say they're worried about— hospital bosses say they're worried about overnight care. toutptt— worried about overnight care. toutett ae— worried about overnight care. tonight as they— worried about overnight care. tonight as they struggle to find outag— tonight as they struggle to find cover during the— tonight as they struggle to find cover during the junior doctor ettttee— cover during the junior doctor ettttee tu— cover during the junior doctor strikes in england. thousands of outst— strikes in england. thousands of british medical— strikes in england. thousands of british medical association memerts— british medical association members have— british medical association members have begun four days of mtustrtat— members have begun four days of industrial action— members have begun four days of industrial action today. downing street— industrial action today. downing street tas— industrial action today. downing street has said— industrial action today. downing street has said it's— industrial action today. downing street has said it's refusing to mott— street has said it's refusing to tott turmer— street has said it's refusing to hold further talks with the umom— hold further talks with the union unless— hold further talks with the union unless it— hold further talks with the union unless it abandons its 35% pay union unless it abandons its 35% pay se— union unless it abandons its 35% pay rise demands— union unless it abandons its 35% pay rise demands and calls off the strttes. — pay rise demands and calls off the strikes. experts warn the uattout— the strikes. experts warn the walkout could— the strikes. experts warn the walkout could be the most ttsrupttve— walkout could be the most disruptive in— walkout could be the most disruptive in the nhs history, utte— disruptive in the nhs history, uttt up— disruptive in the nhs history, uttt up to— disruptive in the nhs history, with up to 350,000 appointments and with up to 350,000 appointments amt surereres— with up to 350,000 appointments and surgeries cancelled and the international— and surgeries cancelled and the international monetary fund prettcts— international monetary fund prettctstte— international monetary fund predicts the uk— international monetary fund predicts the uk economy won't start— predicts the uk economy won't strmt tats— predicts the uk economy won't shrink this year— predicts the uk economy won't shrink this year by as much as it shrink this year by as much as t ortpmatty— shrink this year by as much as it originally thought . but it is it originally thought. but it is on it originally thought. but it is or tract— it originally thought. but it is or tract to— it originally thought. but it is on track to be _ it originally thought. but it is on track to be the worst pertormmp— on track to be the worst performing among the g7 nations. the performing among the g7 nations. the tort— performing among the g7 nations. the tort tas— performing among the g7 nations. the imf has upgraded its torecast— the imf has upgraded its forecast, saying it expects the
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uk forecast, saying it expects the up eomoy— forecast, saying it expects the uk economy now— forecast, saying it expects the uk economy now to contract by just— uk economy now to contract by tust oste— uk economy now to contract by tust opt/c tats— uk economy now to contract by just 0.3% this year. _ uk economy now to contract by just 0.3% this year. that's an tmprovememt— just 0.3% this year. that's an improvement of— just 0.3% this year. that's an improvement of just over half a percentage— improvement of just over half a percentage potat— improvement of just over half a percentage point from previous esttmates— percentage point from previous esttmates. rt— percentage point from previous estimates. it then— percentage point from previous estimates. it then projects it tutt— estimates. it then projects it will recover— estimates. it then projects it will recover by— estimates. it then projects it will recover by 1% next year . will recover by 1% next year. tatour— will recover by 1% next year. tatour mas— will recover by 1% next year. labour has launched a new advert ctatmme— labour has launched a new advert ctatmmp tre— labour has launched a new advert claiming the prime— labour has launched a new advert claiming the prime minister is persomatty— claiming the prime minister is personally responsible for the country-s— personally responsible for the country's economic woes . the country's economic woes. the matter— country's economic woes. the tuttter at — country's economic woes. the twitter ad says— country's economic woes. the twitter ad says rishi sunak tmmts— twitter ad says rishi sunak tmmts tt-s— twitter ad says rishi sunak thinks it's all— twitter ad says rishi sunak thinks it's all right to raise taxes— thinks it's all right to raise taxes tor— thinks it's all right to raise taxes for working people while his taxes for working people while ms tamtty— taxes for working people while his family benefited from a tax tooptote. — his family benefited from a tax tooptrote. tt-s— his family benefited from a tax loophole. it's the _ his family benefited from a tax loophole. it's the second person attack— loophole. it's the second person attact om— loophole. it's the second person attack om te— loophole. it's the second person attack on the prime minister in as mam— attack on the prime minister in as mam stays— attack on the prime minister in as mam tays m— attack on the prime minister in as many days in the run up to tray-s— as many days in the run up to tray-s tocat— as many days in the run up to may's local elections after tatour— may's local elections after labour accused— may's local elections after labour accused him of not semtmp— labour accused him of not sending child— labour accused him of not sending child sex abusers to prtsom — sending child sex abusers to prtsom. tott— sending child sex abusers to prison. both ads— sending child sex abusers to prison. both ads have angered tats— prison. both ads have angered mps, including— prison. both ads have angered mps, including those within the tatour— mps, including those within the tatour party— mps, including those within the tatour party .— mps, including those within the labour party . and winds of up to labour party. and winds of up to 60 labour party. and winds of up to so mttes— labour party. and winds of up to so mttes am— labour party. and winds of up to 60 miles an hour— labour party. and winds of up to 60 miles an hour are expected ovemtptt— 60 miles an hour are expected overnight tonight— 60 miles an hour are expected overnight tonight as the uk is set to— overnight tonight as the uk is set to race— overnight tonight as the uk is set to face unsettled weather tte — set to face unsettled weather over the coming _ set to face unsettled weather over the coming days. a yellow weather— over the coming days. a yellow weather warning— over the coming days. a yellow weather warning is in place now for weather warning is in place now tor rumo— weather warning is in place now tor wtmt amt— weather warning is in place now for wind and rain— weather warning is in place now for wind and rain until tomorrow
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tutt— for wind and rain until tomorrow uttt tre— for wind and rain until tomorrow outta the met— for wind and rain until tomorrow with the met office warning peopte— with the met office warning peopte may— with the met office warning people may have to deal with perststemt— people may have to deal with persistent rain— people may have to deal with persistent rain ,_ people may have to deal with persistent rain , it— people may have to deal with persistent rain , it said. persistent rain, it said. a ttast— persistent rain, it said. a ttast ot— persistent rain, it said. a blast of cold— persistent rain, it said. a blast of cold air tomorrow morning— blast of cold air tomorrow morning could— blast of cold air tomorrow morning could even see an mcreasmp— morning could even see an increasing risk— morning could even see an increasing risk of snow over mortmem— increasing risk of snow over morttrem parts— increasing risk of snow over northern parts of the uk . editor northern parts of the uk. editor sorry,— northern parts of the uk. editor sorry, trott— northern parts of the uk. editor sorry, eight flood— northern parts of the uk. editor sorry, eight flood alerts remain in sorry, eight flood alerts remain m ptace— sorry, eight flood alerts remain in place across— sorry, eight flood alerts remain in place across southern england and in place across southern england amt those— in place across southern england amt those are— in place across southern england and those are the— in place across southern england and those are the latest news teattmes— and those are the latest news teattmes .— and those are the latest news headlines . you're— and those are the latest news headlines . you're up to date on headlines. you're up to date on tv headlines. you're up to date on tv oatme— headlines. you're up to date on tv omttme ,— headlines. you're up to date on tv online , dab+_ headlines. you're up to date on tv online , dab+ radio and on the tv online, dab+ radio and on the tune— tv online, dab+ radio and on the tune m— tv online, dab+ radio and on the tune m app.— tv online, dab+ radio and on the tune m app. tms— tv online, dab+ radio and on the tune in app. this is— tv online, dab+ radio and on the tune in app. this is the reopte-s— tune in app. this is the people's channel gb news. time for people's channel gb news. time tor .— for. farage good - for. farage good evening for. farage- good evening . tor. tarate— good evening . well, don't say good evening. well, don't say i didn't warn you because when i was going out into the english channelin was going out into the english channel in may of 2020, i made two big predictions. the first was that vast numbers of people would come into this country , would come into this country, and the second was that it would be a threat to national security . motty but no one listened or
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more accurately , no one wanted more accurately, no one wanted to listen. but it seemed pretty obvious to me that large numbers of undocumented males coming, in many cases from war zones would be bad news. and of course , we be bad news. and of course, we must remember that all of this really started at a european union level when the boats started crossing the mediterranean and when the eu decided that their new asylum policy meant that anyone that set foot on eu soil would effectively be allowed to stay and that angela merkel cheered more and more people to come . more and more people to come. our problem is this the daily mail today reveal through a source that there are 19 terror suspects among those who are currently living in four star hotels. at your expense, including over a handful of them who've been under surveillance in their home countries for suspected links with isis . i suspected links with isis. i wouldn't be surprised . i really wouldn't be surprised. i really wouldn't be surprised. i really wouldn't be surprised if 19 wasn't just the tip of the
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iceberg . after all, isis iceberg. after all, isis themselves has said in 2015 that they would use ice, the mediterranean route to get their operatives into europe. the worst part of this story and wherever it's come from, somewhere probably inside the home office that's been given to the daily mail, the worst part of this story, it seems to me, is not just that bad. people have come in, but that in the opinion of the person who leaked the story in the daily mail that they won't even an be deported because because if they went back to countries in which they were suspects , they might get were suspects, they might get treated very badly . so are we were suspects, they might get treated very badly. so are we in a position where we're prepared to have people in this country with a high risk of causing terrorist outrages? but we view that as a lower priority motty than sending them back from whence they came . my question whence they came. my question for you, the audience at home tonight is when will we wake up tonight is when will we wake up to this? give me your thoughts.
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farage at gb news .uk as i say, i'm not in the least bit surprised. am i angry about it? yes, of course i am. but i'm not surprised . ed, firstly, tonight surprised. ed, firstly, tonight we go to sir mark lyall grant, former uk ambassador to the un and national security adviser. sir mark, good evening and thank you for joining sir mark, good evening and thank you forjoining us. good evening on the program . good evening. on the program. good evening. can i ask one very big basic question ? you know, you've been question? you know, you've been involved with national security, international organisations. does the average briton seeing a story like this have the right to feel very badly let down? well i'm not surprised by the story. imean, well i'm not surprised by the story. i mean, i don't think tt-s— story. i mean, i don't think tt-s teem— story. i mean, i don't think it's been formally- i mean, i don't think it's been formally confirmed, tut— it's been formally confirmed, tut given— it's been formally confirmed, but given that— it's been formally confirmed, but given that there was sometmmt— but given that there was something like 45,000 migrants comme— something like 45,000 migrants commt acoss— something like 45,000 migrants coming across the— something like 45,000 migrants coming across the channel in smatt— coming across the channel in smatt toats— coming across the channel in small boats last— coming across the channel in small boats last year, the fact treat— small boats last year, the fact that re— small boats last year, the fact that re ot— small boats last year, the fact that 19 of them— small boats last year, the fact that 19 of them might pose a
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potemttat— that 19 of them might pose a potential security threat is not at att— potential security threat is not at all surprising— potential security threat is not at all surprising to me . as at all surprising to me. as youe— at all surprising to me. as y rust— at all surprising to me. as you've just mentioned , back in you've just mentioned, back in see,— you've just mentioned, back in see, tsts— you've just mentioned, back in 2015, isis were _ you've just mentioned, back in 2015, isis were deliberately ustmt— 2015, isis were deliberately ustmt tre— 2015, isis were deliberately using the migrant crisis to send out potemttat— using the migrant crisis to send out potential operatives into europe— out potential operatives into turope to— out potential operatives into europe to cause— out potential operatives into europe to cause problems . now, europe to cause problems. now, happily,— europe to cause problems. now, tapptty, a— europe to cause problems. now, tapptty, a tot— europe to cause problems. now, tapptty, a tot tras— europe to cause problems. now, happily, a lot has changed for the happily, a lot has changed for tree postttve— happily, a lot has changed for the positive since— happily, a lot has changed for the positive since 2015 and actually— the positive since 2015 and actually since _ the positive since 2015 and actually since sort of 2017, tors,— actually since sort of 2017, tors, wee— actually since sort of 2017, 2018, we've been relatively well protectet— 2018, we've been relatively well protected from _ 2018, we've been relatively well protected from terrorist tmcttemts— protected from terrorist incidents in— protected from terrorist incidents in this country. ttercttuttt— incidents in this country. mercifully with a lot of potemttat— mercifully with a lot of potential threats having been ttuartet— potential threats having been tturartet ty— potential threats having been thwarted by the _ potential threats having been thwarted by the intelligence atemctes— thwarted by the intelligence agencies and— thwarted by the intelligence agencies and law enforcement. tut— agencies and law enforcement. but unfortunately, we're in a sttuattom— but unfortunately, we're in a situation now— but unfortunately, we're in a situation now where it is provmt— situation now where it is provmt very— situation now where it is proving very difficult to prove me— proving very difficult to prove rsrs tutctty— proving very difficult to prove isis quickly and— proving very difficult to prove isis quickly and deport those uto— isis quickly and deport those who to— isis quickly and deport those who to mot— isis quickly and deport those who do not deserve to have pottttcat— who do not deserve to have political asylum _ who do not deserve to have political asylum in this country.— political asylum in this country. and- political asylum in this country. and that's obviously sometmmt— country. and that's obviously something that— country. and that's obviously something that rishi sunak the comsemattve— something that rishi sunak the conservative government's been very— conservative government's been veryeercset— conservative government's been very exercised about and is trymt— very exercised about and is trymt to— very exercised about and is trymt to to— very exercised about and is trying to do something about it tutt— trying to do something about it uttt tre— trying to do something about it
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with the illegal— trying to do something about it with the illegal migration bill. but with the illegal migration bill. tut ot— with the illegal migration bill. but of course— with the illegal migration bill. but of course that faces a lot of but of course that faces a lot ot tetat— but of course that faces a lot ot tetat amt— but of course that faces a lot of legal and parliamentary ctattemtes— of legal and parliamentary challenges before it is enacted . tttm. — challenges before it is enacted . tttm. tttm — challenges before it is enacted . mhm. mhm challenges before it is enacted .mhm. mhm challenges before it is enacted . mhm. mhm e . mhm. mhm mhm. but isn't the real problem here, and i've seen this for myself out there on the 12 mile line isn't the real problem here that many of these young men throw their documents and their iphone phones into the sea and actually it's a devil of a job to identify who they really are . absolutely. and many really are. absolutely. and many of really are. absolutely. and many ot trem— really are. absolutely. and many of them pretend _ really are. absolutely. and many of them pretend to— ”cant at; absolutely. and many of them pretend to come from coutres— of them pretend to come from countries from _ of them pretend to come from countries from which they don't actually— countries from which they don't actuatty come— countries from which they don't actuatty .— countries from which they don't actually come . and it's actually come. and it's difficult— actually come. and it's difficult to— actually come. and it's difficult to identify that and ttmt— difficult to identify that and ttmt out— difficult to identify that and find out exactly who they are. i treat— find out exactly who they are. i mean, that has— find out exactly who they are. i mean, that has been a challenge for mean, that has been a challenge tor mam— mean, that has been a challenge tor mam years— mean, that has been a challenge for many years for— mean, that has been a challenge for many years for the for torter— for many years for the for border force— for many years for the for border force and the home office . tut— border force and the home office . tut ot— border force and the home office . but of course,— border force and the home office . but of course, all— border force and the home office . but of course, all people who m— . but of course, all people who arrive in this— . but of course, all people who arrive in this country tttetattt— arrive in this country illegally, they are fingerprinted . and the reason fingerprinted. and the reason treat— fingerprinted. and the reason that ome— fingerprinted. and the reason that ca— fingerprinted. and the reason that one can say— fingerprinted. and the reason that one can say that there are potemttatty— that one can say that there are potentially these _ that one can say that there are potentially these 19 people is tecause— potentially these 19 people is because one can— potentially these 19 people is because one can track those
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ttmters— because one can track those ttmters .— because one can track those fingers , prints— because one can track those fingers , prints against fingers, prints against different— fingers, prints against different internet , national different internet, national tatatases— different internet, national tatatases .— different internet, national databases , and therefore , you databases, and therefore, you get some— databases, and therefore, you get ttea— databases, and therefore, you get some idea of— databases, and therefore, you get some idea of who these peopte— get some idea of who these peopte mtttt— get some idea of who these people might be. it could be the tip people might be. it could be the ttp ot— people might be. it could be the ttp ot tre— people might be. it could be the tip of the iceberg,— people might be. it could be the tip of the iceberg, but i think tats— tip of the iceberg, but i think me soumts— tip of the iceberg, but i think this sounds like— tip of the iceberg, but i think this sounds like to me a sort of umetr— this sounds like to me a sort of urmetr treat— this sounds like to me a sort of number that one— this sounds like to me a sort of number that one might expect given— number that one might expect poem as— number that one might expect ttvem say,— number that one might expect given as, say, 45,000 people arrtvet— given as, say, 45,000 people arrtvet tats— given as, say, 45,000 people arrived this way— given as, say, 45,000 people arrived this way just last year. wett— arrived this way just last year. wet wet. — arrived this way just last year. well well, it's— arrived this way just last year. well well, it's 19 _ arrived this way just last year. well well, it's 19 too- arrived this way just last year. well well, it's 19 too many, as far as i'm concerned . but you far as i'm concerned. but you were far as i'm concerned. but you there.— far as i'm concerned. but you were there. you— far as i'm concerned. but you were there. you were- ff: but you were there. you were working on our were there. you were working on tetatt— were there. you were working on tetatt at— were there. you were working on our behalf at the— were there. you were working on our behalf at the united tattoms— our behalf at the united nations. and,- our behalf at the united nations. and, of course, back in peer,— nations. and, of course, back in per, te— nations. and, of course, back in peer, we treu— nations. and, of course, back in 1951, we drew up— nations. and, of course, back in 1951, we drew up a— nations. and, of course, back in 1951, we drew up a definition of uto— 1951, we drew up a definition of to shout— 1951, we drew up a definition of who should or— 1951, we drew up a definition of who should or should not qualify as a remote.— who should or should not qualify as a refugee. that— who should or should not qualify as a refugee. that seems to have extemtet— as a refugee. that seems to have extended massively— as a refugee. that seems to have extended massively to people comme— extended massively to people commt trom— extended massively to people coming from any— extended massively to people coming from any area that's attectet— coming from any area that's attectet ty— coming from any area that's affected by war, _ coming from any area that's affected by war, even those comme— affected by war, even those commt trom — affected by war, even those coming from extreme forms of poverty.— coming from extreme forms of poverty. ts— coming from extreme forms of poverty. rs rt— coming from extreme forms of poverty. is it time— coming from extreme forms of poverty. is it time to redefine uto— poverty. is it time to redefine uto mtttt— poverty. is it time to redefine who might qualify as a refugee and who might qualify as a refugee amt tet— who might qualify as a refugee amt tet rt— who might qualify as a refugee and get it back— who might qualify as a refugee and get it back to— who might qualify as a refugee and get it back to the basic prmctptes— and get it back to the basic principles that— and get it back to the basic principles that it was men and women in fear— principles that it was men and women in fear of— principles that it was men and women in fear of their lives in ear— women in fear of their lives in tear ot— women in fear of their lives in tear ot tetr—
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women in fear of their lives in fear of their liberty, because of fear of their liberty, because ot tetr— fear of their liberty, because of their thoughts, their views, tetr— of their thoughts, their views, their associate _ of their thoughts, their views, their associate nations ? their associate nations? atsotutetp— their associate nations? absolutely. i— their associate nations? absolutely. i think- their associate nations? absolutely. i think there is a need to look again at the convention and how it operates . convention and how it operates. but there's a number of issues here. i rememberi but there's a number of issues here. i remember i was i served in pakistan barn door back in the 1980s, and many people from pakistan came to the uk and claimed political asylum and i was asked, as a member of the embassy in islamabad , to say, embassy in islamabad, to say, would these people really be persecuted if they were returned to pakistan ? and in many cases, to pakistan? and in many cases, what i found was that no one had really heard of them in pakistan . and so they probably weren't at risk when they left pakistan . but then they came to the uk and they jumped up and down outside the embassy in london saying, death to zia, who was the president and the dictator at the time. and of course, that did bring them to the attention of the authorities in pakistan . of the authorities in pakistan. so that was one particular sort of problem . another problem is
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of problem. another problem is that the convention action was based on the idea that once you reached the first safe haven , reached the first safe haven, the first safe country, you should apply for asylum. then and i think the frustration of many people in this country about the particular small boats coming across the channel is they're manifestly not coming from a dangerous country. they're coming from france . but they're coming from france. but instead of applying for asylum instead of applying for asylum in france, they come to the uk. maybe because they've got relatives or they speak english and not french. a number of reasons . batus yeah, maybe it's reasons. batus yeah, maybe it's our benefit system. you know, there may be a number of different reasons, but the reality is they're leaving a country where they safe and country where they are safe and coming to the united kingdom and claiming asylum. and i think it's that aspect of the 1951 convention that people find very frustrating . i think they're frustrating. i think they're very— frustrating. i think they're very ruse— frustrating. i think they're very wise words, - frustrating. i think they're very wise words, sir- g i think they're very wise words, sir mark, and team— very wise words, sir mark, and thank you— very wise words, sir mark, and thank you tor— very wise words, sir mark, and thank you for joining very wise words, sir mark, and thank you forjoining us very wise words, sir mark, and thank you for joining us this evemmt— thank you for joining us this eyemtmt .— thank you for joining us this eyemmt . tow,— thank you for joining us this evening . now, if bad people evening. now, if bad people come, can we deport them? how on
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earth— come, can we deport them? how on earth to— come, can we deport them? how on earth to we— come, can we deport them? how on earth to we get— come, can we deport them? how on earth do we get around this prottem — earth do we get around this prottem ot— earth do we get around this problem of the— earth do we get around this problem of the echr and indeed much— problem of the echr and indeed muct ot— problem of the echr and indeed muct ot tre— problem of the echr and indeed much of the british judiciary? tutt— much of the british judiciary? wrtt taut— much of the british judiciary? will paul turner— much of the british judiciary? will paul turner is head of ctamters— will paul turner is head of chambers and— will paul turner is head of chambers and barrister at rmpertum — chambers and barrister at imperium chambers , imperium chambers, overwhelmingly public opinion is going— overwhelmingly public opinion is tome to— overwhelmingly public opinion is tome to say— overwhelmingly public opinion is tomt to say trem— overwhelmingly public opinion is going to say when it sees a teattme— going to say when it sees a headline like— going to say when it sees a headline like this in the mail, tet-s— headline like this in the mail, tet-s toot— headline like this in the mail, let's boot them _ headline like this in the mail, let's boot them out of the country— let's boot them out of the country .— let's boot them out of the country . tut— let's boot them out of the country . but it- let's boot them out of the country . but it seems paul country. but it seems paul tumer— country. but it seems paul turner were— country. but it seems paul turner were not- country. but it seems paul turner were not able to indeed . turner were not able to indeed. aut— turner were not able to indeed. ant you— turner were not able to indeed. ant you sat— turner were not able to indeed. rmt you satt at— turner were not able to indeed. and you said at the— turner were not able to indeed. and you said at the beginning a couple of things that i would agree with that firstly, that there was going to be an influx of people through small boats . of people through small boats. and secondly, nobody was going to get rid of them. but there are a number of reasons why. i mean, we know . where these mean, we know. where these people are coming from. france and prior to brexit, they could have been returned to france only if dublin only if they'd previously claimed asylum and the numbers sent back were minute. that's a failing of the toemmet — minute. that's a failing of the government. the— minute. that's a failing of the government. the well,- that's a failing of the government. the well, what is all a failing of the government but the dublin convention
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provided that that if you could establish that they didn't have to claim asylum france , they to claim asylum in france, they could under the could be returned under the immigration act and under the dubun immigration act and under the dublin convention to the country from which came . um, and from which they came. um, and that was enshrined in the three dubun that was enshrined in the three dublin conventions. but when the brexit negotiations were concluded, someone then rather dropped the ball on that one because it would be easy enough. and i know you've advocated it turning the boats and turning the boats around and sending them to france and sending them back to france and they processed they could have been processed back in france and had their claims there was the claims dealt with there was the issue of stop the boats is a it's a it's a three word slogan. it's one that i wonder if this government will hold up to with the hands face space slogan where it turned out that they weren't really doing it themselves. yeah, quite. because themselves. yeah, quite. because the fact is when i started doing immigration, which was about 25 years ago, working for the government, there were about 100,000 migrants arriving , but 100,000 migrants arriving, but they were coming via lorries. they were coming via aeroplanes and as a former ambassador was
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saying, there would be a lot of terrorists that are arriving. the point that you raise, which is how do we get rid of them? it's very it's difficult. it's impossible to remove them as per the refugee convention. but okay. well, it was very interesting _ okay. well, it was very interesting to - [its/saga well, it was very interesting to hear, sir mark saymt— interesting to hear, sir mark saymt mere— interesting to hear, sir mark saying there are— interesting to hear, sir mark saying there are two things. i ttmt— saying there are two things. i ttmt that— saying there are two things. i think that he— saying there are two things. i think that he thought- saying there are two things. i think that he thought the refugee convention should be updated. don't think there is refugee convention should be u|needd. don't think there is refugee convention should be u|need to don't think there is refugee convention should be u|need to update:hink there is refugee convention should be u|need to update the: there is refugee convention should be u|need to update the refugee; a need to update the refugee under echr under echr issue echr is at the absolute nub of this . is at the absolute nub of this. i agree. is it your professional optmtom— i agree. is it your professional optmtom treat— i agree. is it your professional opinion that it— i agree. is it your professional opinion that it would be easy rere— opinion that it would be easy here to— opinion that it would be easy here to deport— opinion that it would be easy here to deport people if we were not here to deport people if we were mot part— here to deport people if we were mot part ot— here to deport people if we were mot part ot tre— here to deport people if we were not part of the echr ? �*" pct; not part of the echr? if we were not part of the echr? if we were not part— not part of the echr? if we were not part ot— not part of the echr? if we were not part of the echr? if we were not part of the echr? if we were not part of the echr we could deport pretty much everybody that would otherwise qualify for refugee status because the two are coterminous. yes and so we could pretty much support everybody. and the problem is , everybody. and the problem is, and these people are i'll come to this point , the problem is to this point, the problem is that that 75% of the people that claim asylum were effectively
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recognised, i think in the last year before coronavirus as being refugees now. yeah which is which is which— refugees now. yeah which is which is which is— g / which is which is which is actually what we to— which is which is actually what we do because— which is which is actually what we do because we— which is which is actually what we do because we can't send them anywhere— we do because we can't send them anywhere . — we do because we can't send them anywhere . wett— we do because we can't send them anywhere . well no,— we do because we can't send them anywhere . well no, no.- we do because we can't send them anywhere. well no, no. that's because in law they're entitled to it because they're, they're a fear the basis of their fear on the basis of their either race, religion, ethnicity or sexuality. we what's left is and people that you're talking aboutis and people that you're talking about is obviously the unsavoury characters. and we've had unsavoury characters. there was a case of sheila, which was a very famous case many years ago, where the government just couldn't remove the person because of article three. so there's the house of lords discussed this matter back in 2002. i think , and they came to 2002. i think, and they came to the conclusion that removing people such as the these people who shouldn't be here would not necessarily make the united kingdom a safer place because if they're in the united kingdom, they're in the united kingdom, they can be monitored. oh, i don't buy into any of that old
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nonsense security services do. well, i don't know. maybe they do. well, i don't know. maybe they to. ttayte— well, i don't know. maybe they to. mayte trey— well, i don't know. maybe they do. maybe they don't.- well, i don't know. maybe they do. maybe they don't. i- kurtis ct?" c maybe they do. maybe they don't. i don't uamt— do. maybe they don't. i don't want trem— do. maybe they don't. i don't want them here. _ do. maybe they don't. i don't want them here. yeah, but mettmer— want them here. yeah, but mettter to— want them here. yeah, but neither do i,— want them here. yeah, but neither do i, nigel. �*" neither do i, nigel. but if you ttmt— neither do i, nigel. but if you think they're in think about it, if they're in the united kingdom and they're forced to live in a house and they're not allowed the internet , there's some modicum , then there's some modicum of control. but if they're sent back iraq and back to the back to iraq and back to the gunpowder factory , as it were, gunpowder factory, as it were, they've got no control over them at all. i'd rather take that camcem — at all. i'd rather take that ctamce tut— at all. i'd rather take that chance. but paul,- i'd rather take that chance. but paul, thank you very muct—tommt- chance. but paul, thank you very muct—tommt us- chance. but paul, thank you very much joining us here much indeed forjoining us here on et— much indeed forjoining us here on ct tees.— much indeed forjoining us here on ct news. rt— much indeed forjoining us here on gb news. it is— much indeed forjoining us here on gb news. it is a— much indeed forjoining us here on gb news. it is a deeply, teepty— on gb news. it is a deeply, deeply frustrate— on gb news. it is a deeply, deeply frustrate issue, as mteet— deeply frustrate issue, as tmteet ts— deeply frustrate issue, as indeed is the— deeply frustrate issue, as indeed is the fact that pub closures are— indeed is the fact that pub closures are up— indeed is the fact that pub closures are up 60. so far this year.— closures are up 60. so far this year. yes— closures are up 60. so far this year. yes tt-s— closures are up 60. so far this year. yes, it's energy bills and many— year. yes, it's energy bills and many otter— year. yes, it's energy bills and many other things . what can be many other things. what can be tomee— many other things. what can be tomee wett— many other things. what can be done? we'll debate that in just a momem— done? we'll debate that in just
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19 so some of your thoughts on the re suspectet— so some of your thoughts on the 19 suspected terrorists that are living— 19 suspected terrorists that are ttytmt rt— 19 suspected terrorists that are living tt up— 19 suspected terrorists that are now living it up in four star totets— now living it up in four star totets .— now living it up in four star totets . .— now living it up in four star hotels . i asked— now living it up in four star hotels . i asked the question, hotels. i asked the question, omem— hotels. i asked the question, when tutt— hotels. i asked the question, when will we _ hotels. i asked the question, when will we wake up? louise says— when will we wake up? louise says .— when will we wake up? louise says , am— when will we wake up? louise says , rm awtut— when will we wake up? louise says , an awful lot of us have says, an awful lot of us have atreaty— says, an awful lot of us have already woken— says, an awful lot of us have already woken up. i think actuatty— already woken up. i think actually, louise , out there in actually, louise, out there in the— actually, louise, out there in tte temerat— actually, louise, out there in the general public . that's true. the general public. that's true. t-m— the general public. that's true. t-m rust— the general public. that's true. r-m tust mot— the general public. that's true. r-m tust mot so— the general public. that's true. i'm just not so sure westminster ttat— i'm just not so sure westminster ttat tt-s— i'm just not so sure westminster ttat tt-s reatty— i'm just not so sure westminster that it's really quite the case. rom— that it's really quite the case. john says— that it's really quite the case. john says tte— that it's really quite the case. john says the obvious solution to— john says the obvious solution to teave— john says the obvious solution was to leave the _ john says the obvious solution was to leave the echr and follow the australian— was to leave the echr and follow the australian model to too tate. — the australian model to too tate. tow— the australian model to too late. now and— the australian model to too late. now and john have to say youe— late. now and john have to say youe mot— late. now and john have to say you're not alone— late. now and john have to say you're not alone in— late. now and john have to say you're not alone in thinking ttts— you're not alone in thinking ttts ts— you're not alone in thinking ttts ts suct— you're not alone in thinking this is such an— you're not alone in thinking this is such an awful situation . tt-s— this is such an awful situation . rt-s tome— this is such an awful situation . rt-s tome to— this is such an awful situation . it's going to be— this is such an awful situation . it's going to be very, very tough— . it's going to be very, very toutt to— . it's going to be very, very tough to roll— . it's going to be very, very tough to roll it— . it's going to be very, very tough to roll it back. and stetamo— tough to roll it back. and stefano says.— tough to roll it back. and stefano says. so the government tats— stefano says. so the government tats atam— stefano says. so the government tatts atam .— stefano says. so the government fails again . yes,— stefano says. so the government fails again . yes, that goes fails again. yes, that goes wtttout— fails again. yes, that goes without saying. now there is a soctat— without saying. now there is a soctat ctamte— without saying. now there is a social change that is going on aoumt— social change that is going on aoumt ttts— social change that is going on around this country. it's been going— around this country. it's been tome om— around this country. it's been tome om tor— around this country. it's been going on for some years . there going on for some years. there are going on for some years. there tots— going on for some years. there tots ot— going on for some years. there are lots of reasons— going on for some years. there are lots of reasons the smoking tam— are lots of reasons the smoking tam tttm-t— are lots of reasons the smoking ban didn't help— are lots of reasons the smoking ban didn't help to— are lots of reasons the smoking ban didn't help to begin with , ban didn't help to begin with, but ban didn't help to begin with, tut ttat-s— ban didn't help to begin with, tut that a— ban didn't help to begin with, but that's a long— ban didn't help to begin with, but that's a long time ago. but tot— but that's a long time ago. but we've now got rising energy prtces— we've now got rising energy
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prtces rtsmt— we've now got rising energy prices rising food costs. and i suspect— prices rising food costs. and i suspect some— prices rising food costs. and i suspect some changing consumer tattts— suspect some changing consumer tattts stmce— suspect some changing consumer habits since lockdown. yes, our puts— habits since lockdown. yes, our puts are— habits since lockdown. yes, our puts reatty— habits since lockdown. yes, our pubs are really, really in troutte— pubs are really, really in troutte .— pubs are really, really in trouble . and— pubs are really, really in trouble . and in fact, closures trouble. and in fact, closures otto— trouble. and in fact, closures toe up.— trouble. and in fact, closures tote up. so— trouble. and in fact, closures are 60% up. so far this year comparet— are 60% up. so far this year compared with— are 60% up. so far this year compared with last year. is there— compared with last year. is there anything— compared with last year. is there anything that can be done? yet— there anything that can be done? yet cree— there anything that can be done? well, greg mulholland is a tome— well, greg mulholland is a former liberal— well, greg mulholland is a former liberal democrat member of former liberal democrat member ot tarttamemt— former liberal democrat member of parliament and— former liberal democrat member of parliament and was chair of the of parliament and was chair of tte save— of parliament and was chair of tte save tte— of parliament and was chair of the save the pub— of parliament and was chair of the save the pub parliamentary troup— the save the pub parliamentary troup. tes— the save the pub parliamentary group. ue-s mo— the save the pub parliamentary group. he's now chair of the trtttst— group. he's now chair of the trtttst tut— group. he's now chair of the british pub confederation and campattm— british pub confederation and campaign director for the campattm— campaign director for the campattm tor— campaign director for the campaign for pubs. and greg toms— campaign for pubs. and greg toms me— campaign for pubs. and greg toms me mow.— campaign for pubs. and greg joins me now. greg, good evening . i joins me now. greg, good evening . . tave— joins me now. greg, good evening . . have to— joins me now. greg, good evening . . have to say,— joins me now. greg, good evening . i have to say, you— joins me now. greg, good evening . i have to say, you know, i'm tutt— . i have to say, you know, i'm uttt you.— . i have to say, you know, i'm with you. forget— . i have to say, you know, i'm with you. forget politics here uten— with you. forget politics here when t— with you. forget politics here when it comes— with you. forget politics here when it comes to— with you. forget politics here when it comes to saving the pub. i when it comes to saving the pub. . tetteve— when it comes to saving the pub. . tetteve every— when it comes to saving the pub. i believe every pub— when it comes to saving the pub. i believe every pub is a parliament— i believe every pub is a parliament and they're vital parts— parliament and they're vital parts ot— parliament and they're vital parts ot our— parliament and they're vital parts of our social life. these figures— parts of our social life. these figures are— parts of our social life. these figures are pretty— parts of our social life. these figures are pretty depressing, aerat— figures are pretty depressing, aemt ttey— figures are pretty depressing, aemt ttey e— figures are pretty depressing, aren't they ? they are , nigel, aren't they? they are, nigel, toot— aren't they? they are, nigel, toot eyemmt. — aren't they? they are, nigel, good evening. 'r: c good evening. and it's not surprising. they're very depressing, but not surprising .
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depressing, but not surprising. and indeed, the campaign for pubs, the british pub confederation and all the organisations in the pub sector, the british beer and pub association who represent the big companies, we're all saying the same thing when it comes to the same thing when it comes to the situation. now with energy bills being at a level that is making otherwise perfectly profit able businesses perfectly profitable, small enterprises that are employing people that are, you know, really vital for local economies, are not viable because of the level of particularly the energy bills. that's the biggest thing . as that's the biggest thing. as you've also said, other costs are going up. the costs of the production of beer , of food production of beer, of food pnces production of beer, of food prices and everything else. so it's a situation, unfortunately , that is actually worse than pubs suffered from from the pandemic and the lockdown. and obviously that was devastating . obviously that was devastating. but there is now a sense, i'm
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afraid , that the uk government afraid, that the uk government has decided it's going to give all the support it has and that it will now stand by and watch more and more pubs close , which more and more pubs close, which is a real blow to those local economies and a huge blow to the communities that will find themselves without that pub because it is such an iconic and important part of communities up and down the country and indeed our culture , our yes, our culture, our yes, absolutely. this is about way ttat— absolutely. this is about way more than just— cricy this is about way more than just economics . but more than just economics. but the chancellor,— more than just economics. but the chancellor, jeremy hunt, in the chancellor, jeremy hunt, in tte tuttet— the chancellor, jeremy hunt, in tte tuttet .— the chancellor, jeremy hunt, in the budget , sort— the chancellor, jeremy hunt, in the budget , sort of the chancellor, jeremy hunt, in the budget, sort of said to us ttat— the budget, sort of said to us ttat te— the budget, sort of said to us ttat te was— the budget, sort of said to us that he was giving doing the puts— that he was giving doing the puts a— that he was giving doing the puts a catty— that he was giving doing the pubs a really big favour, but tou— pubs a really big favour, but tow to— pubs a really big favour, but tow to you— pubs a really big favour, but how do you view— pubs a really big favour, but how do you view that? that statement— how do you view that? that statement he _ how do you view that? that statement he made about beer taxes— statement he made about beer taxes mot— statement he made about beer taxes mot tome— statement he made about beer taxes not going up in pubs but going— taxes not going up in pubs but going-elsewhere— taxes not going up in pubs but going elsewhere didn't really going up elsewhere didn't really tetp— going up elsewhere didn't really tetp-ttt— going up elsewhere didn't really tetp-ttt tt— going up elsewhere didn't really tetp-ttt t e— going up elsewhere didn't really help-did it .7 no,- going up elsewhere didn't really help-did it .7 no, it- going up elsewhere didn't really help did it? no, it didn't help pubs, did it? no, it didn't . .— help pubs, did it? no, it didn't . . mean— help pubs, did it? no, it didn't . i mean, there— help pubs, did it? no, it didn't . i mean, there was- help pubs, did it? no, it didn't . i mean, there was real anger actually . if you look at the actually. if you look at the response from people across hospitality. so publicans, but also restaurants , tours, also restaurants, tours, brewers, there was a real sense of anger at just how out of
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touch the chancellor and the government are on this. that was something that will do really very, very little, virtually virtually nothing significant for pubs. it's not a bad thing in itself. clearly but what pubs needis in itself. clearly but what pubs need is pubs need help to become profitable when the only thing stopping them are these utterly artificially high energy prices. and the government didn't listen. and the energy discount scheme, which was , you know, not scheme, which was, you know, not as not not as generous as we would have liked, but was nonetheless hugely important , nonetheless hugely important, vital to getting pubs through the winter has of course, now just stopped. so the estimate is that the average pub bill will go that the average pub bill will 9° up that the average pub bill will go up over £18,000. now this year , just just think about that year, just just think about that sum for, for pubs and you know, people are already having to take the decision to or to give the keys back if they rent a pub
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or if they own a pub to potentially tell the community that they just can't make it work . and that's heartbreaking work. and that's heartbreaking because you know, let's hope in a year's time things are better. let's you know , please let's hope, you know, please god, that situation in god, that the situation in ukraine improves and that you know, the world is looking a slightly brighter place. but to have these. well, i'd love to tt— have these. well, i'd love to t-t toye— have these. well, i'd love to see i'd love i'd— have these. well, i'd love to see i'd love i'd love- well, i'd love to see i'd love i'd love to see ttat— see i'd love i'd love to see ttat ctosmt— see i'd love i'd love to see that closing because of the sttuattom— that closing because of the situation now— that closing because of the situation now is— that closing because of the situation now is so , in our situation now is so, in our twe— situation now is so, in our view, so short— situation now is so, in our view, so short sighted when they just view, so short sighted when they tust meet— view, so short sighted when they tust meet some— view, so short sighted when they just need some support to get ttroutt— just need some support to get ttroutt-mext— just need some support to get through next year. c through this next year. is it possttte— through this next year. is it possible final— through this next year. is it possible final thought on this ? possible final thought on this? is it possible and perhaps the pamtemtc— is it possible and perhaps the pamtemtc amt— is it possible and perhaps the pandemic and lockdown accelerated _ pandemic and lockdown accelerated this. but there is putte— accelerated this. but there is tutte a— accelerated this. but there is tutte a big— accelerated this. but there is quite a big social change going on out— quite a big social change going on out there.— quite a big social change going on out there. a— quite a big social change going on out there. a lot— quite a big social change going on out there. a lot of young peopte— on out there. a lot of young peopte m— on out there. a lot of young people in britain now not trmtmt— people in britain now not drinking alcohol at all. and ttat— drinking alcohol at all. and ttmt ot— drinking alcohol at all. and tmt ot tome— drinking alcohol at all. and kind of going to the pub perhaps seeme— kind of going to the pub perhaps seem a— kind of going to the pub perhaps we're seeing a cultural change tee,— we're seeing a cultural change tere, too,— we're seeing a cultural change here, too, that— we're seeing a cultural change here, too, that can't be reversed . _ here, too, that can't be reversed . kurtis here, too, that can't be- reversed . well, i think it's reversed. well, i think it's hard to say. you know, is it
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because pubs are closing that people aren't going or is it because people aren't going that some pubs are closing? you know, these things all change, but the pub adapted . it's centuries pub has adapted. it's centuries old and pubs have always adapted. they are still adapting. there are great pubs that have a huge appeal to people across the age range . if people across the age range. if they offer what they what they offer people what they what they offer people what they what they want and you know, they are vitally important to local economies and they employ younger people . they're crucial younger people. they're crucial for giving people that for giving people often that first job, that first bit of experience in the in the working world. so it just would be wrong to have something that is so important to communities, to our culture closing simply because the government won't give the support they need to get them through what is a crisis , just through what is a crisis, just like the pandemic was. this is another crisis. and all we're saying is support pubs through this and allow them to then get back on their feet, succeed and keep running and contributing to the local economies . greg the local economies. greg mulholland keep campaigning for
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the sake of many of us. thank you very much indeed- as thank you very much indeed for joining us tomtttt— you very much indeed for joining us tomtttt om— you very much indeed for joining us tonight on gb— you very much indeed for joining us tonight on gb news. in a momem— us tonight on gb news. in a moment, we'll— us tonight on gb news. in a moment, we'll find out why the oueem— moment, we'll find out why the queen wanted— moment, we'll find out why the queen wanted both of her tramtsoms— queen wanted both of her tramtsoms .— queen wanted both of her grandsons , us- queen wanted both of her grandsons , us william and to grandsons, us william and to harry,— grandsons, us william and to harry, to— grandsons, us william and to harry, to out— grandsons, us william and to harry, go out and— grandsons, us william and to harry, go out and fight in afghanistan.— harry, go out and fight in afghanistan. all of that in just a momem— afghanistan. all of that in just
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did the queen really want both of did the queen really want both ot ter— did the queen really want both of her grandsons— did the queen really want both of her grandsons ,_ did the queen really want both of her grandsons , william and of her grandsons, william and harry,— of her grandsons, william and harry, to— of her grandsons, william and harry, to to— of her grandsons, william and harry, to to amt— of her grandsons, william and harry, to go and fight in the m— harry, to go and fight in the war in afghanistan ? can can this war in afghanistan? can can this story— war in afghanistan? can can this story te— war in afghanistan? can can this story te truer— war in afghanistan? can can this story be true? well, duncan tarcomte— story be true? well, duncan tarcomte ts— story be true? well, duncan larcombe is a— story be true? well, duncan larcombe is a former royal etttor— larcombe is a former royal etttor ot— larcombe is a former royal editor of the— larcombe is a former royal editor of the sun and was in and aoumt— editor of the sun and was in and aoumt ttts— editor of the sun and was in and around this story— editor of the sun and was in and around this story when it was tappemmt— around this story when it was happening those— around this story when it was happening those years back. what was happening those years back. what ter— happening those years back. what was her motivation? if it's true for was her motivation? if it's true tor wamtmt— was her motivation? if it's true for wanting both _ was her motivation? if it's true for wanting both her grandsons to to— for wanting both her grandsons to 90 .— for wanting both her grandsons to to , wett— for wanting both her grandsons to go , well, this— for wanting both her grandsons to go , well, this this was the to go, well, this this was the mat— to go, well, this this was the tttmt at— to go, well, this this was the tract at tte— to go, well, this this was the thing at the time— to go, well, this this was the thing at the time that william amt— thing at the time that william amt tarry— thing at the time that william amt tarry weat— thing at the time that william and harry went to sandhurst to start— and harry went to sandhurst to start a— and harry went to sandhurst to start a mttttary— and harry went to sandhurst to start a military career , there start a military career, there
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att— start a military career, there att tte— start a military career, there was all the stories of them terme— was all the stories of them being mollycoddled and all being mollycoddled and it all temt— being mollycoddled and it all temt-tor— being mollycoddled and it all being-for real,— being mollycoddled and it all being for real, just for being not for real, just for shoot — being not for real, just for shoot ot— being not for real, just for show. of course,- being not for real, just for show. razzr. being not for real, just for show. rt.r:::r. being not for real, just for- show. of course, now we know, thanks sir mike thanks to general sir mike jackson's this is this this is how story broken. that's how this story is broken. that's absolutely he's he's absolutely right. he's he's actually protocol actually broken royal protocol by revealing these secret conversations he had with the queen where she said, well, my grandsons took my shilling and therefore , if they if the time therefore, if they if the time comes, they should go to war and fight. so it's an astonishing insight into into our queen, really. the insight into into our queen, really . the concept of taking a really. the concept of taking a sttttmt— really. the concept of taking a sttttmt tas— really. the concept of taking a sttttmt tas a— really. the concept of taking a shilling has a big— ”©3th the concept of taking a shilling has a big historical context,— shilling has a big historical context, doesn't— shilling has a big historical context, doesn't it? take the ttat-s— context, doesn't it? take the king's shilling— context, doesn't it? take the king's shilling when he joined the king's shilling when he joined tte army— king's shilling when he joined tte army amt— king's shilling when he joined the army and all— king's shilling when he joined the army and all of that? what toes— the army and all of that? what toes tt— the army and all of that? what toes tt say— the army and all of that? what does it say about— the army and all of that? what does it say about the late oueeme— does it say about the late oueeme .— does it say about the late queen? i think- does it say about the late queen? i think it shows that she i queen? i think it shows that she . meam— queen? i think it shows that she . .— queen? i think it shows that she . , as tt— queen? i think it shows that she i mean , as if we— queen? i think it shows that she i mean , as if we didn't know i mean, as if we didn't know ttts— i mean, as if we didn't know ttts atreaty— i mean, as if we didn't know this already, but— i mean, as if we didn't know this already, but she was the reat— this already, but she was the eat-ste— this already, but she was the real-she wasn't- this already, but she was thej real-she wasn't about this already, but she was the- real-she wasn't about spin real deal. she wasn't about spin and putting forward one public face. she actually knew that if her son, her grandson , but also her son, her grandson, but also her son, her grandson, but also her sons, when it came to prince andrew, if they joined the military and they took the vow to fight for queen and country ,
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to fight for queen and country, then that's what it meant. and certainly in my experience when i was covering the sun, we, william and harry, they not only did work their behinds off to get through sandhurst, i'd say there was more pressure on them actually to perform and to do well. and they threw their heart and it. and it was and soul into it. and it was only a certain degree of circumstance . forces that meant circumstance. forces that meant that in the of course, as that in the end, of course, as we only harry went to war we know, only harry went to war and didn't he? and did two tours, didn't he? did tours. i mean, he did two tours. i mean, he actually he should have gone to iraq. he was set to go to iraq. he was all set to go to iraq. he was all set to go to iraq back in two thousand and seven. but then word got out and the plug was pulled. but that wasn't because harry wasn't a soldier worthy of his position. it was because of the threat to other soldiers . if the other soldiers. if the insurgents suddenly went on a killing spree just because harry was in town. yeah, his position reveatet— was in town. yeah, his position was revealed and— was in town. yeah, his position was revealed and all- " yeah, his position was revealed and all the rest of it. was revealed and all the rest of t. ves— was revealed and all the rest of t. ves teat.— was revealed and all the rest of t. ves teat. .— was revealed and all the rest of it. yes yeah. i mean, it does stou— it. yes yeah. i mean, it does stow you— it. yes yeah. i mean, it does show you, doesn't- it. yes yeah. i mean, it does show you, doesn't it, that the oueem— show you, doesn't it, that the queen believed _ show you, doesn't it, that the queen believed in duty in servtce— queen believed in duty in service,_right service, in doing the right tttmp— service, in doing the right tttmp-tt-
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service, in doing the right thing, it meant risk. thing, even if it meant risk. amt— thing, even if it meant risk. amt .— thing, even if it meant risk. amt r guess— thing, even if it meant risk. and i guess we— thing, even if it meant risk. and i guess we might look at those— and i guess we might look at ttoseltemt— and i guess we might look at those-being old- and i guess we might look at those being old fashioned those as being old fashioned auest — those as being old fashioned t.auest tut— those as being old fashioned values. but i— those as being old fashioned values. but i have to say, i ttmt— values. but i have to say, i think-rather- values. but i have to say, i think rather honourable think they're rather honourable and think they're rather honourable amt-tame.— think they're rather honourable and values. wonder. and decent values. i wonder. tucam— and decent values. i wonder. tucam-— and decent values. i wonder. tumcam- ttat- and decent values. i wonder. duncan , what she'd have duncan larkin, what she'd have ttouttt— duncan larkin, what she'd have ttouttt-tas— duncan larkin, what she'd have thought-was still- duncan larkin, what she'd have thought was still around thought if she was still around atout— thought if she was still around about-boasting- thought if she was still around about boasting about his about harry boasting about his tatttettett— about harry boasting about his battlefield exploits in afghanistan? well, of course , afghanistan? well, of course, ttat— afghanistan? well, of course, that admission— afghanistan? well, of course, that admission from harry in his toot— that admission from harry in his toot tot— that admission from harry in his toot got a— that admission from harry in his toot got a tot— that admission from harry in his book got a lot of— that admission from harry in his book got a lot of criticism from a tot— book got a lot of criticism from a tot ot— book got a lot of criticism from a lot of former— book got a lot of criticism from a lot of former soldiers and ot— a lot of former soldiers and some of whom— a lot of former soldiers and some of whom that served with harry.— some of whom that served with harry. — some of whom that served with harry. tt-s— some of whom that served with harry. rt-s mt— some of whom that served with harry. it's not the— some of whom that served with harry. c : some of whom that served with harry. c g harry. it's not the done thing as a member of the military to kind of chalk up your murders or your kills or your whatever you want to call it, depending on which side of the coin you're on. but for harry, 25 kills in afghanistan , so controversial afghanistan, so controversial that he said that. but i mean, it shows to me, i mean, i'm i'm a big fan of prince harry. i really am. still. i still am. i still am. i knew we'd find someone i am someone at some point. no, i am . aut— someone at some point. no, i am . tut .— someone at some point. no, i am . tut . ttmt— someone at some point. no, i am . tut . ttmt .— someone at some point. no, i am . and i think i took— someone at some point. no, i am . and i think i took that- someone at some point. no, i am . and i think i took that in- someone at some point. no, i am . and i think i took that in the way that it was meant. and that was he was doing a real job. he wasn't in the front line in afghanistan for just wasn't in the front line in afghanistan forjust window afghanistan to for just window by buy was actually
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by that i buy he was actually doing job by that but he doing a real job by that but he he went a bit too far in what he said. but could argue for said. but you could argue for tte— said. but you could argue for tte-two— said. but you could argue for tte-two years— said. but you could argue for the .two years of- r: but you could argue for the two years of the the last two years of the ouees— the last two years of the queen's life,— the last two years of the queen's life, too the last two years of the- queen's life,-too far in queen's life, he went too far in matmt— queen's life, he went too far in mattmt tte— queen's life, he went too far in making life incredibly difficult for making life incredibly difficult tor-rest— making life incredibly difficult tor-rest ot— making life incredibly difficult for rest of family. for her. the rest of her family. so for her. the rest of her family. so-ot— for her. the rest of her family. so-ot trmce- for her. the rest of her family. so-of prince harry,- for her. the rest of her family. so of prince harry, he so as a fan of prince harry, he tam-t,— so as a fan of prince harry, he tasm-t, as— so as a fan of prince harry, he hasn't, as understand hasn't, as we understand it, answered the— hasn't, as we understand it, answered the invitation come answered the invitation to come to—om— answered the invitation to come to—om may- answered the invitation to come to—om ttay ttel to the coronation on may the ott— to the coronation on may the ott-stoutt- to the coronation on may the| 6th.-should-done to the coronation on may the. 6th.-should-done so 6th. no he should have done so by 6th. no he should have done so ty-tor— 6th. no he should have done so ty-tor a— 6th. no he should have done so ty-tor a tartety— 6th. no he should have done so by-for a variety of- by now for a variety of ortamtset— by now for a variety of organised national structural securtty— organised national structural security reasons.— organised national structural security reasons. we don't know ttat— security reasons. we don't know ttat tact— security reasons. we don't know what back door— security reasons. we don't know what back door negotiations are going— what back door negotiations are tomt om— what back door negotiations are going on, whether— what back door negotiations are going on, whether it's about appearmt— going on, whether it's about appearmt om— going on, whether it's about appearing on the balcony or ttateter. — appearing on the balcony or whatever. but— appearing on the balcony or whatever. but doesn't this just stow— whatever. but doesn't this just stow ms— whatever. but doesn't this just show his level— whatever. but doesn't this just show his level disrespect ? show his level of disrespect? i ttmt— show his level of disrespect? i think.certainly_ show his level of disrespect? i thinklcertainly shows- show his level of disrespect? i think certainly shows that think it certainly shows that there is a feeling that you get with harry, that he's just winging it all at the moment. and frankly, going whichever way the takes him. and the weather takes him. and i think if he was serious about what he said, the ball being in his court and wanting his father's court and wanting to have his father back in his life, it's all a game, isn't it? it's across as that. and it's coming across as that. and it's very, very hard to defend harry against any other accusation other than that because , you know, frankly, the
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because, you know, frankly, the king it's the biggest day of the king's life. his father's life. and we still have no idea where the harry or his family will be. anywhere near no , no. i suspect anywhere near no, no. i suspect that they anywhere near no, no. i suspect ttat ttey mtttt— anywhere near no, no. i suspect that they might be— anywhere near no, no. i suspect that they might be in- anywhere near no, no. i suspect that they might be in the- ' ”til i suspect that they might be in the abbey, but that they might be in the abbey, tut ttey— that they might be in the abbey, tut ttey wom-t— that they might be in the abbey, but they won't be— that they might be in the abbey, but they won't be allowed on the tatcomy. — but they won't be allowed on the tatcomy. at— but they won't be allowed on the balcony. at least— but they won't be allowed on the balcony. at least that's what we umterstamt— balcony. at least that's what we understand. final— balcony. at least that's what we understand. final thought the understand. final thought on the ttat.— king. you know, we're a few months— king. you know, we're a few momtts m.— king. you know, we're a few months in. there- king. you know, we're a few months in. there are worries ttat— months in. there are worries ttat te-s— months in. there are worries that he's becoming a very woke tmt. — that he's becoming a very woke tmt. umet— that he's becoming a very woke king. nigel farage_ that he's becoming a very woke king. \r grit g king. nigel farage worries or. well, look, i want to- king. nigel farage worries or. well, look, i want to try- king. \r grit g well, look, i want to try and be as putttcty— well, look, i want to try and be as publicly loyal— well, look, i want to try and be as publicly loyal as i can. i've ttsatreet— as publicly loyal as i can. i've disagreed with— as publicly loyal as i can. i've disagreed with him openly in the turopeam— disagreed with him openly in the european parliament in times tome— european parliament in times tome ty. — european parliament in times tome ty. .— european parliament in times tome ty. rttmt— european parliament in times gone by. i think he's essentially- gone by. i think he's essentially a very good man. i tate— essentially a very good man. i have ttttte— essentially a very good man. i have little doubt— essentially a very good man. i have little doubt about that . have little doubt about that. tut— have little doubt about that. tut tt— have little doubt about that. tut tt toes— have little doubt about that. but it does seem that opening up a ttstory— but it does seem that opening up a ttstory, opemmt— but it does seem that opening up a history, opening up the ecorts— a history, opening up the records of— a history, opening up the records of the— a history, opening up the records of the royal family to tacttract— records of the royal family to backtrack on _ records of the royal family to backtrack on slavery. you know, wtem— backtrack on slavery. you know, when tte— backtrack on slavery. you know, when the guardian effectively tate— when the guardian effectively have bullied— when the guardian effectively have bullied them into it, when ttey— have bullied them into it, when they themselves— have bullied them into it, when they themselves have a record , i they themselves have a record, i rust— they themselves have a record, i tust ote— they themselves have a record, i just wonder whether he's trying to ptease— just wonder whether he's trying to ptease a— just wonder whether he's trying to please a crowd— just wonder whether he's trying to please a crowd that don't support— to please a crowd that don't support tte— to please a crowd that don't support the monarchy anyway. i ttmt—
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support the monarchy anyway. i tttmt ttat— support the monarchy anyway. i think that that's— support the monarchy anyway. i think that that's absolutely rtttt. — think that that's absolutely rtttt. .— think that that's absolutely right. i think— think that that's absolutely right. i think that- think that that's absolutely right. i think that when the queen died, prince charles was buned queen died, prince charles was buried as well. and he's now king charles. we're talking about very different character about a very different character here. think at the moment here. and i think at the moment the signs can you please the subtle signs can you please all the people all the time? well, of course, you can't . so well, of course, you can't. so the question really will be, how will this king charles actually manage to i mean, there are some skeletons in the cupboard if there are over slavery and the royal family and hundreds of years history, does he do years of history, does he do himself by opening himself any favours by opening up those doors ? time will tell. up those doors? time will tell. i doubt it . i up those doors? time will tell. i doubt it. i doubt it. duncan tarcomte— i doubt it. i doubt it. duncan tarcomte .— i doubt it. i doubt it. duncan larcombe , great— r:r:::r. c i doubt it. duncan larcombe , great guest to have on larcombe, great guest to have on these— larcombe, great guest to have on ttese royat— larcombe, great guest to have on these royal issues.— larcombe, great guest to have on these royal issues. thank you for these royal issues. thank you tor comma— these royal issues. thank you tor commt m— these royal issues. thank you for coming in and at a moment, in for coming in and at a moment, m a— for coming in and at a moment, m a espomse— for coming in and at a moment, m a repose to— for coming in and at a moment, in a response to many, many ematts— in a response to many, many ematts trom— in a response to many, many emails from you,— in a response to many, many emails from you, the viewers and ttstemers— emails from you, the viewers and ttstemers to — emails from you, the viewers and listeners to this— emails from you, the viewers and listeners to this program, we're going— listeners to this program, we're tomt to— listeners to this program, we're tomt to to— listeners to this program, we're tomt to to to— listeners to this program, we're going to go to down cornwall. were— going to go to down cornwall. we-re 90i"9_ going to go to down cornwall. we-re tomt to— going to go to down cornwall. we're going to find out why this comwatt— we're going to find out why this cornwall aviation— we're going to find out why this cornwall aviation centre, a terttate— cornwall aviation centre, a heritage centre— cornwall aviation centre, a heritage centre , is on the verge heritage centre, is on the verge of heritage centre, is on the verge ot temt — heritage centre, is on the verge of being closed— heritage centre, is on the verge of being closed down by the tocat— of being closed down by the local council. _ of being closed down by the local council. gosh, it was scamptom— local council. gosh, it was scamptom a— local council. gosh, it was scampton a couple of weeks ago. is scampton a couple of weeks ago. ts ttere— scampton a couple of weeks ago. ts ttere to— scampton a couple of weeks ago. is there no end— scampton a couple of weeks ago. is there no end to— scampton a couple of weeks ago. is there no end to this cultural
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now? a thousand people cross the moust— now? a thousand people cross the english channel— now? a thousand people cross the english channel on— now? a thousand people cross the english channel on boats. last weet— english channel on boats. last weet atone— english channel on boats. last week alone and— english channel on boats. last week alone and we've talked atout— week alone and we've talked atout tartes— week alone and we've talked about barges, we've talked about tome— about barges, we've talked about former-stations,— about barges, we've talked about former stations, but still former raf stations, but still ttere—usetl former raf stations, but still. there—used and there are hotels being used and it's there are hotels being used and tt-s—m— there are hotels being used and tt-s—m tortt- it's now flintshire in north ttates—a- it's now flintshire in northi wales,_a heck it's now flintshire in north- wales,_a heck of wales, where there's a heck of a at— wales, where there's a heck of a at tortt— wales, where there's a heck of a row at north thorpe hall is the tame-tte— row at north thorpe hall is the name the residents and the name of the residents and the ttttate—peoptel village, and it's 1500 people ttat—wttate- village, and it's 1500 people that—village. it'sl that live in that village. it's too— that live in that village. it's too-merr— that live in that village. it's 400-men that'll- that live in that village. it's 400 men that'll be moved 400 young men that'll be moved in. 400 young men that'll be moved m. aret— 400 young men that'll be moved m. mt tte— 400 young men that'll be moved in. and the -that- 400 young men that'll be moved in. and the -that are- in. and the points that are temt— in. and the points that arei temt—ematts in. and the points that are- being_emails i've being made and the emails i've recettet— being made and the emails i've received—news. being made and the emails i've. received—news have received and we at gb news have recettet— received and we at gb news have recettet-stmpty- received and we at gb news have received simply that received on this is simply that ttere-s— received on this is simply that ttere-s-stop- received on this is simply that there's-shop and- there's only one shop and ttere-s— there's only one shop and there's-and- there's only one shop and there's and there's no there's no gp and there's no terrttst— there's no gp and there's no dentist,-won't- there's no gp and there's no dentist, won't matter dentist, but it won't matter tecause— dentist, but it won't matter because-have- because they'll have mobile terrttstry— because they'll have mobilei dentistry _ sent dentistry units and gp's sent out— dentistry units and gp's sent out to— dentistry units and gp's sent out to where— dentistry units and gp's sent out to where they are. and if ttat— out to where they are. and if ttat toesrr-t— out to where they are. and if that doesn't make you angry, i tort-t— that doesn't make you angry, i tout-what—
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that doesn't make you angry, i don't-what will.- that doesn't make you angry, i don't what will. so let's don't know what will. so let's teat— don't know what will. so let's teat town— don't know what will. so let's head down to— don't know what will. so let's head down to cornwall. let's be totet— head down to cornwall. let's be tomet ty— head down to cornwall. let's be joined by richard— head down to cornwall. let's be joined by richard spencer, teas— joined by richard spencer, brea's, founder and director of the brea's, founder and director of tte comwatt— brea's, founder and director of the cornwall aviation heritage centre.— the cornwall aviation heritage centre. tow— the cornwall aviation heritage centre. now we've had a lot of ematts— centre. now we've had a lot of ematts a— centre. now we've had a lot of ematts a tot— centre. now we've had a lot of emails, a lot of— centre. now we've had a lot of emails, a lot of emails, richard , tate— emails, a lot of emails, richard , have come into— emails, a lot of emails, richard , have come into us— emails, a lot of emails, richard , have come into us from people saymt— , have come into us from people saymt you-e— , have come into us from people saymt you-e tot— , have come into us from people saymt you-e got a— , have come into us from people saying you've got a great collection— saying you've got a great collection of— saying you've got a great collection of aeroplanes down ttere— collection of aeroplanes down ttere m— collection of aeroplanes down there in newquay and that someotw— there in newquay and that somehow cornwall council will tate— somehow cornwall council will have given— somehow cornwall council will pave owes you— somehow cornwall council will have given you very little rrottce— have given you very little rrottce att— have given you very little notice and you're about to be ttctet— notice and you're about to be ttctet out.— notice and you're about to be kicked out. so— notice and you're about to be kicked out. so tell us what the trutt— kicked out. so tell us what the trutt ts— kicked out. so tell us what the truth is, please— kicked out. so tell us what the truth is, please and welcome . truth is, please and welcome. ttett— truth is, please and welcome. ttett ttarrt— truth is, please and welcome. well thank you _ truth is, please and welcome. well thank you very much, nigel. wett— well thank you very much, nigel. wet .— well thank you very much, nigel. wet . tt-s— well thank you very much, nigel. wet . tt-s toot— well thank you very much, nigel. well , it's good to— well thank you very much, nigel. well , it's good to have— well thank you very much, nigel. well , it's good to have an- well, it's good to have an opportunity to talk about the truth . um, it's important that truth. um, it's important that we get the story into a good context. we were told our lease was terminating back in october 2021, and so that gave us some 15 to 18 months to find a solution. now, we did work very hard to try and make a solution with cornwall council, but we weren't successful . so we've weren't successful. so we've
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been negotiating up until very recently to achieve that solution. and that fallen flat, even though we'd raised a lot of money and found a site because it's fallen flat, we've been given notice to vacate the site, which we're doing at the moment , but it's very, very hard work. and because of the way that it's fallen , it means that there's no fallen, it means that there's no for hope our museum to actually go forward in its present form . go forward in its present form. and what does that mean ? does and what does that mean? does that mean giving the— ' r: : , does that mean giving the aircraft away— that mean giving the aircraft away 7— that mean giving the aircraft away 7 toes— that mean giving the aircraft away 7 toes tt— that mean giving the aircraft away ? does it mean finding a new away? does it mean finding a new stet— away? does it mean finding a new sttet wtat— away? does it mean finding a new site? what does— away? does it mean finding a new site? what does it— away? does it mean finding a new site? what does it actually mean for site? what does it actually mean tor your— site? what does it actually mean for your museum?— site? what does it actually mean for your museum? well, it's tutte— for your museum? well, it's tutte ttat— for your museum? well, it's quite kind of— for your museum? well, it's quite kind of tragic, really, tecause— quite kind of tragic, really, because we— quite kind of tragic, really, because we had already found a stte— because we had already found a stte. — because we had already found a stte. we— because we had already found a new site. we just— because we had already found a new site. we just needed the time necessary to relocate it to it. and that wasn't available. we raised the funds necessary to relocate to it, but we didn't have the time . um, it's doubly have the time. um, it's doubly tragic because this region really , really does deserve a really, really does deserve a proper aerospace nation , a proper aerospace nation, a proper aerospace nation, a proper heritage centre. we have
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discovered over the past eight years and again and again how valuable aviation heritage centres are for inspiring young people and for education into the aviation subject. but cornwall and devon and dorset don't have any other alternative . if we were willing to provide that, we're willing to produce our collection for that purpose . but we're not getting the opportunity. well, richard, all i opportunity. well, richard, all t ca— opportunity. well, richard, all t say— opportunity. well, richard, all t say ts— opportunity. well, richard, all t say ts .— opportunity. well, richard, all i can say is i think— " car well, richard, all i can say is i think you're rtttt. — i can say is i think you're rtttt. t— i can say is i think you're right. i think- i can say is i think you're right. i think this- i can say is i think you're right. i can say is i think you're- right. i think this is important . it inspires young people. it's important for our history and heritage. i wish you luck in finding a solution . now, another finding a solution. now, another subject that many of you email us on is , of course, the whole us on is, of course, the whole question of how and where we can use our cars and what restriction laws are being put on us. and today's particular case study is south fulham west in london , which is a clean air in london, which is a clean air air neighbourhood trial . well,
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air neighbourhood trial. well, well, earlier on today we sent christina, one of our reporters down to have a look at what this actually means in that part of fulham. and what the impact is positive and negative on communities and businesses. business is in fulham say they're losing out as customers face new fines as the clean air neighbourhood scheme from hammersmith and fulham council stops motorists who are not registered in the area from taking shortcuts on side streets, forcing them to stick to the main roads. five cameras have teet— to the main roads. five cameras have been placed— to the main roads. five cameras have been placed to— " five cameras have been placed to catch trtters— have been placed to catch drivers breaking the rules who tace— drivers breaking the rules who now face fines— drivers breaking the rules who now face fines of— drivers breaking the rules who now face fines of up to £130. tut— now face fines of up to £130. but businesses— now face fines of up to £130. but businesses here along new tmts— but businesses here along new tmts toat— but businesses here along new tmts toat say— but businesses here along new kings road say that they're the temt— kings road say that they're the ones being affected . they say ones being affected. they say ttey— ones being affected. they say ttey wee-t— ones being affected. they say they weren't properly consulted tetore— they weren't properly consulted tetore tte — they weren't properly consulted before the new— they weren't properly consulted before the new measures were put in before the new measures were put tr ptace— before the new measures were put tr ptace att— before the new measures were put to ptace arrt tte— before the new measures were put in place and the threat of a tetty— in place and the threat of a tetty tte— in place and the threat of a petty tme ts— in place and the threat of a hefty fine is stopping potential customers from _ hefty fine is stopping potential customers from coming to the high— customers from coming to the tttt street— customers from coming to the high street and— customers from coming to the
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high street and their shops. tte— high street and their shops. the businesses— high street and their shops. the businesses have- high street and their shops. the businesses have conducted an independent survey themselves finding that 90% of the businesses are not for the scheme itself, as they're finding it has led to a reduction in their trade and business. and some of them who tate— business. and some of them who have teet— business. and some of them who have been here— business. and some of them who have been here for— and some of them who have been here for longer than we tate— have been here for longer than we have .— have been here for longer than we have , which— have been here for longer than we have , which years, are we have, which is ten years, are tow-at— we have, which is ten years, are tow-at ctosmt- we have, which is ten years, are now-at closing and- now looking at closing and motmt— now looking at closing and moving relocating to other moving and relocating to other areas . there's— moving and relocating to other areas . areas. there's also concern about whether the scheme even works many fear that the works as many fear that the increased traffic on the high street is making the pollution worse. i use very , very worse. i use very, very expensive fabric, so the whole thing is about keeping things clean in here and we just get these particles of black particles more of them now. i mean, they've always been there, but mean, they've always been there, tut ow— mean, they've always been there, tut tt-s— mean, they've always been there, but now it's just— mean, they've always been there, but now it's just really exacerbated. - but now it's just really exacerbated. and this week it's sctoot— exacerbated. and this week it's school holiday. _ exacerbated. and this week it's school holiday. so— exacerbated. and this week it's school holiday. so the traffic is school holiday. so the traffic ts retucet— school holiday. so the traffic is reduced. what— school holiday. so the traffic is reduced. what you're seeing now:— is reduced. what you're seeing tut— is reduced. what you're seeing now, but often— is reduced. what you're seeing now, but often it's— is reduced. what you're seeing now, but often it's clogged up rtttt— now, but often it's clogged up rtttt trom— now, but often it's clogged up right from wandsworth bridge toat— right from wandsworth bridge toat to— right from wandsworth bridge toat to tte— right from wandsworth bridge road to the traffic lights at tasos— road to the traffic lights at parsons green _ road to the traffic lights at parsons green lane. and that's tratttc— parsons green lane. and that's tratttc rust— parsons green lane. and that's traffic just sitting— parsons green lane. and that's traffic just sitting there. some restterrts— traffic just sitting there. some residents have— traffic just sitting there. some residents have welcomed the cameras as fewer— residents have welcomed the cameras as fewer cars drive
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outstte— cameras as fewer cars drive outstte ttetr— cameras as fewer cars drive outside their homes. c131 outside their homes. but earlier totay— outside their homes. but earlier totay .— outside their homes. but earlier today , most people i spoke to today, most people i spoke to were concerned about the effect it's having on particularly people who are elderly and who feel that they're really trapped. nobody feels that they can trapped. nobody feels that they rust— trapped. nobody feels that they tust pop— trapped. nobody feels that they tust pop to— ztrzzir: nobody feels that they can just pop in anymore. hammersmith— can just pop in anymore. hammersmith and- can just pop in anymore. hammersmith and fulham council started to roll out the new measures in december , but measures in december, but initially were just sending warnings to drivers . a warnings to drivers. a spokesperson from the council said that residents and businesses tell them they're pleased that they're tackling the toxic air crisis after decades of pollution and congestion . they said they also congestion. they said they also support their vision to make the area a more attractive destination for shoppers and visitors. but with businesses suffering, many are hoping the council will rethink the plans . council will rethink the plans. as christina curtis for gb news now we've been debating the ulez extension. we're going to talk atout— extension. we're going to talk atout ttts— extension. we're going to talk about this issue— extension. we're going to talk about this issue as— rzi;,t
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has obsessed. we're not because bath tas a— obsessed. we're not because bath tas a tear— obsessed. we're not because bath tas a ctearr atr— obsessed. we're not because bath has a clean air zone.— obsessed. we're not because bath has a clean air zone. birmingham has a clean air zone. birmingham tas oe— has a clean air zone. birmingham has one, bradford— has a clean air zone. birmingham has one, bradford has one. trtstot— has one, bradford has one. bristol has— has one, bradford has one. bristol has one,- has one, bradford has one. bristol has one, portsmouth has one, sheffield— bristol has one, portsmouth has one, sheffield has— bristol has one, portsmouth has one, sheffield has one, tyneside has one, sheffield has one, tyneside tas oe— one, sheffield has one, tyneside tas att— one, sheffield has one, tyneside has one. and there— one, sheffield has one, tyneside has one. and there are plans for greater— has one. and there are plans for greater manchester and all sorts of greater manchester and all sorts ot otter— greater manchester and all sorts of other cities— greater manchester and all sorts of other cities around the uk. twen— of other cities around the uk. ttere tatt— of other cities around the uk. ttere tatt ot— of other cities around the uk. even talk of 15— of other cities around the uk. even talk of 15 minute cities in cattertury— even talk of 15 minute cities in cattertury .— even talk of 15 minute cities in canterbury , oxford and elsewhere canterbury, oxford and elsewhere . tut— canterbury, oxford and elsewhere . tut tet-s— canterbury, oxford and elsewhere . but let's start— canterbury, oxford and elsewhere . but let's start with this one, outer— . but let's start with this one, outer tort— . but let's start with this one, oliver lord joins— . but let's start with this one, oliver lord joins me, uk head of the oliver lord joins me, uk head of tte ctearr— oliver lord joins me, uk head of the clean cities— oliver lord joins me, uk head of the clean cities campaign . the clean cities campaign. ch...— the clean cities campaign. aha, to— the clean cities campaign. oliver, no one— the clean cities campaign. oliver, no one wants no one wants— oliver, no one wants no one warrts ttrty— oliver, no one wants no one wants dirty cities. all right, tet-s— wants dirty cities. all right, tet-s agree— wants dirty cities. all right, let's agree on— wants dirty cities. all right, let's agree on that before we totaty— let's agree on that before we totatty wttt— let's agree on that before we totally with you _ let's agree on that before we totally with you on that. do arryttmt— totally with you on that. do arryttmt or— totally with you on that. do arryttmt or to— totally with you on that. do anything or go anywhere. but ttts— anything or go anywhere. but tttsltrutat— anything or go anywhere. but this-brutal ,_ anything or go anywhere. but this-brutal , isn't- anything or go anywhere. but this brutal , isn't it? anything or go anywhere. but this brutal, isn't it? i this is brutal, isn't it? i mean, £130— this is brutal, isn't it? i mean, £130 if- this is brutal, isn't it? i mean, £130 if you go off that mam— mean, £130 if you go off that roat— mean, £130 if you go off that main road through that part of tumam.— main road through that part of tuttam. so— main road through that part of fulham. so you— main road through that part of fulham. so you want to go and wstt— fulham. so you want to go and wstt your— fulham. so you want to go and visit your auntie?— fulham. so you want to go and visit your auntie? well, it's possttte— visit your auntie? well, it's possible after— visit your auntie? well, it's possible after the visit, if you fill something— possible after the visit, if you fill something in— possible after the visit, if you fill something in online that you— fill something in online that you mtttt— fill something in online that you mtttt tet— fill something in online that you might get the fine rescinded , tut— you might get the fine rescinded , tut you— you might get the fine rescinded , tut you are— you might get the fine rescinded , but you are damaging those tocat— , but you are damaging those local businesses— , but you are damaging those local businesses ,_ , but you are damaging those local businesses , those off local businesses, those off street— local businesses, those off street local— local businesses, those off street local businesses in quite a big— street local businesses in quite a ttt way. — street local businesses in quite a ttt way. tort-t— street local businesses in quite a big way. don't they matter ?
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a big way. don't they matter? wet.— a big way. don't they matter? wet. tte— a big way. don't they matter? well, i've seen _ a big way. don't they matter? well, i've seen this— a big way. don't they matter? well, i've seen this before a little bit. i've seen businesses carrying coffins down the street like literally and then actually the street being revived, you know, about a year later when everything beds in. but i actually, you know, looking at the piece that you just gave is i actually think things are getting quite complicated now for people. you're seeing local authorities lots of authorities bringing in lots of different . and quite different schemes. and quite frankly, they're trying frankly, because they're trying to about air to do something about the air pollution the city. right. to do something about the air pollfacti the city. right. to do something about the air pollfact that he city. right. to do something about the air pollfact that no city. right. to do something about the air pollfact that no children's the fact that no children's lungs are getting stunted. no, no, no. this is about no, no, no, no. this is about amt—car— no, no, no, no. this is about anti—car fanaticism. - no, no, no, no. this is about anti—car fanaticism. i- this is about anti—car fanaticism. i mean, you trow— anti—car fanaticism. i mean, you know, att— anti—car fanaticism. i mean, you know, and ulez— anti—car fanaticism. i mean, you know, and ulez extension is exactty— know, and ulez extension is exactty tte— know, and ulez extension is exactly the same— know, and ulez extension is exactly the same argument. tote— exactly the same argument. toue tatmt— exactly the same argument. you're taking ulez extension out to wet— you're taking ulez extension out to rurat aeas— you're taking ulez extension out to rural areas on— you're taking ulez extension out to rural areas on the outskirts of to rural areas on the outskirts ot torrtorr— to rural areas on the outskirts of london with— to rural areas on the outskirts of london with no— to rural areas on the outskirts of london with no possible air terrettt— of london with no possible air terrettt at— of london with no possible air benefit at all. _ of london with no possible air benefit at all. yttricc of london with no possible air benefit at all. write ”ti; benefit at all. well, we're talking about hammersmith at the moment. i know that . okay. all moment. i know that. okay. all right. no, moment. i know that. okay. all rtttt. n0, tarr— moment. i know that. okay. all right. no, fair enough.- okay. all right. no, fair enough. i'm tattmt— right. no, fair enough. i'm talking generally about the approact— talking generally about the approach-well- talking generally about the approach well i would approach to cars. well i would say— approach to cars. well i would say tte— approach to cars. well i would say the approach— approach to cars. well i would say the approach to cars there reets— say the approach to cars there reets to — say the approach to cars there reets to te — say the approach to cars there needs to be an— say the approach to cars there needs to be an approach to cars tecause— needs to be an approach to cars because cars have— needs to be an approach to cars because cars have ultimately startet— because cars have ultimately startet to— because cars have ultimately started to overrun our lives, espectaty— started to overrun our lives, especially-areas. started to overrun our lives, especially areas . started to overrun our lives,- especially-areas . and especially in urban areas. and
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we've been sold— especially in urban areas. and we've been sold a— especially in urban areas. and we've been sold a bit- especially in urban areas. and we've been sold a bit of a fallacy really. we've been sold a fallacy the car industry. a fallacy by the car industry. if if watch a car if you go if you watch a car advert, you go to cinema and advert, you go to the cinema and watch it. it's like, where are all other cars in the street all the other cars in the street when this car? when you're selling me this car? quite there isn't quite frankly, there isn't enough all the cars enough space for all the cars we've in our cities. well, we've got in our cities. well, there's the embankment over there. something different is there. something different is tte—oter- there. something different is the _over there. i there. something different is. the—over there. you the embankment over there. you trow— the embankment over there. you know, a— the embankment over there. you know, a catty— the embankment over there. you know, a really important route, 20 know, a really important route, zoo—mt,- know, a really important route, zo—tmtt, ze- know, a really important route,| 20_limit, 24 hours 20 mile an hour limit, 24 hours anteate— 20 mile an hour limit, 24 hours a-pnane, tsp-t— 20 mile an hour limit, 24 hours a-insane, isn't-20- 20 mile an hour limit, 24 hoursi a-insane, isn't-20 mile a day. insane, isn't it? 20 mile an a day. insane, isn't it? 20 mile au-ts— a day. insane, isn't it? 20 mile an-ts atout— a day. insane, isn't it? 20 mile an is about actually an hour is about actually reducing the risk of injury to children and adults. absolutely. you us all wrapped up in you want us all wrapped up in cotton at home? you don't cotton wool at home? you don't want out, cotton wool at home? you don't watt-out, to- cotton wool at home? you don't want-out, do you? . cotton wool at home? you don't. want-out, do you? come want us to go out, do you? come on. want us to go out, do you? come tt— want us to go out, do you? come rt you— want us to go out, do you? come rt you get— want us to go out, do you? come rt you get trt— want us to go out, do you? come on. if you get hit by a car at 20 miles an hour compared to getting at 50 an hour, getting hit at 50 miles an hour, then you know, then the chances of, you know, keeping life is much keeping your life is so much significantly. is major significantly. this is a major thoroughfare— significantly. this is a major thoroughfare road.- g t this is a major thoroughfare road. not thoroughfare road. it's not outsrte— thoroughfare road. it's not outsrte a— thoroughfare road. it's not outside a primary where outside a primary school where i mrgtt— outside a primary school where i might-argument- outside a primary school where i might argument about might buy the argument about corrrsrorrs— might buy the argument about collisions-mean,— might buy the argument about collisions mean, what collisions. i mean, what i reaty— collisions. i mean, what i catty-roto- collisions. i mean, what i really into, oliver, is, really get into, oliver, is, ret-s— really get into, oliver, is, es say— really get into, oliver, is, let's say we're - really get into, oliver, is, let's say we're using london as ator— let's say we're using london as a for case debate— let's say we're using london as a for case debate because that's your— a for case debate because that's your sort— a for case debate because that's your sort or— a for case debate because that's your sort of expertise and we're srttmg— your sort of expertise and we're srttrrrg tee.— your sort of expertise and we're sitting here. but— your sort of expertise and we're sitting here. but this applies in sitting here. but this applies to much— sitting here. but this applies to muct ot— sitting here. but this applies in much of the— sitting here. but this applies in much of the rest of the country.— in much of the rest of the country we— in much of the rest of the country. we with the congestion stowrr—
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country. we with the congestion stowrr tttz— country. we with the congestion shown ulez ulez— country. we with the congestion shown ulez ulez extension, low trattrc— shown ulez ulez extension, low traffic neighbourhoods, this creat— traffic neighbourhoods, this ctearr arr— traffic neighbourhoods, this clean air experiment that the comprex— clean air experiment that the compret att— clean air experiment that the complex and quite right as you sart— complex and quite right as you sat eater,— complex and quite right as you said earlier, that's— complex and quite right as you said earlier, that's going on. i ttmt— said earlier, that's going on. i ttrrrt wee— said earlier, that's going on. i think we're getting pretty close to tte— think we're getting pretty close to tte trutt— think we're getting pretty close to the truth of— think we're getting pretty close to the truth of where we're going— to the truth of where we're gomg wrtt— to the truth of where we're going with this— to the truth of where we're going with this mayor of london, satrg— going with this mayor of london, satrg ttat— going with this mayor of london, satrg ttat .— going with this mayor of london, sadiq khan , earlier on today in sadiq khan, earlier on today in an sadiq khan, earlier on today in art rrrtertrew— sadiq khan, earlier on today in an interview with— sadiq khan, earlier on today in an interview with the financial rrmes— an interview with the financial rrmes sart— an interview with the financial times, said road— an interview with the financial times, said road use charging is tteresttrrg— times, said road use charging is mterestmg. rt— times, said road use charging is interesting. if you— times, said road use charging is interesting. if you get rid of tte— interesting. if you get rid of the congestion— interesting. if you get rid of the congestion charge , get rid the congestion charge, get rid of the congestion charge, get rid ot tttz— the congestion charge, get rid ot tttz, get— the congestion charge, get rid of ulez, get rid— the congestion charge, get rid of ulez, get rid of road tax and charge— of ulez, get rid of road tax and ctarge peopte— of ulez, get rid of road tax and charge people depending on how marry— charge people depending on how marry mrtes— charge people depending on how marry mrtes ttey— charge people depending on how many miles they drive , how many miles they drive, how potutmg— many miles they drive, how polluting their— many miles they drive, how polluting their vehicle is , what polluting their vehicle is, what trme— polluting their vehicle is, what trme ot— polluting their vehicle is, what trme ot tte— polluting their vehicle is, what time of the day— polluting their vehicle is, what time of the day their driving. ttey-re— time of the day their driving. they're alternative, their alternatives _ they're alternative, their alternatives related to public transport — alternatives related to public transport on— alternatives related to public transport. oh, and how many peopte— transport. oh, and how many peopre are— transport. oh, and how many peopre m— transport. oh, and how many people are in the— transport. oh, and how many people are in the car that is poterrtraty— people are in the car that is potentially quite exciting. wet— potentially quite exciting. wet, rt— potentially quite exciting. wet, rt you— potentially quite exciting. well, if you want to live in a ctmese— well, if you want to live in a chinese communist state, i suppose— chinese communist state, i suppose rt-s— chinese communist state, i suppose it's very exciting, tsp-t— suppose it's very exciting, rsrr-t rt?— suppose it's very exciting, rsrr-t t? r— suppose it's very exciting, isn't it? i mean, you're i mean, rsrr-t— isn't it? i mean, you're i mean, rsrr-t ttrs— isn't it? i mean, you're i mean, isn't this where— isn't it? i mean, you're i mean, isn't this where we're going? oh,— isn't this where we're going? on come— isn't this where we're going? on — isn't this where we're going? oh, come on. be— isn't this where we're going? oh, come on. be honest about it. ttttmatety— oh, come on. be honest about it. ultimately, isn't— oh, come on. be honest about it. ultimately, isn't this where gomgt — ultimately, isn't this where we're going? that's not surprising. those comments from
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the mayor. i mean, everyone in sort policy wonk sphere sort of the policy wonk sphere are talking about do we are talking about how do we improve for people improve things for people driving because improve things for people drivintkind because improve things for people drivintkind of because improve things for people drivintkind of what because improve things for people drivintkind of what this ecause improve things for people drivintkind of what this isause that's kind of what this is about as it's how do about as well. it's about how do we actually charge people fairly for you know, for using vehicles, you know, depending how polluting your depending on how polluting your vehicle if you to go at vehicle is, if you want to go at peak you're going spend vehicle is, if you want to go at prlittle you're going spend vehicle is, if you want to go at prlittle bit you're going spend vehicle is, if you want to go at prlittle bit moree going spend vehicle is, if you want to go at prlittle bit more money. spend vehicle is, if you want to go at prlittle bit more money. butpend a little bit more money. but actually, people in actually, the poorer people in society to visit society may be going to visit their said, their auntie. like you said, once a month, they might be better a result doing better off as a result of doing a like because a scheme like that because you're balancing you're actually balancing out the vehicle excise the flat fee of vehicle excise duty actually a more duty with actually a more variable cameras. you'll tell how variable cameras. you'll tell tow-peopte— variable cameras. you'll tell how-people are- variable cameras. you'll tell how-people are .thel variable cameras. you'll tell. how-people are .the car. how many people are in the car. wrt— how many people are in the car. wrt-morator— how many people are in the car. will-monitor our— will you monitor our conversations you don't conversations as well? you don't necessary—.- conversations as well? you don't necessarily . you necessarily need cameras. you can some kit the can actually put some kit in the car like it. car itself. i don't like it. insurance companies. i don't like it. oliver it's the big state.— like it. oliver it's the big state. tut— like it. oliver it's the big state. but hey— like it. oliver it's the big state. but hey ,- c c oliver it's the big state. but hey , thank you for state. but hey, thank you for comrrrg— state. but hey, thank you for commg m— state. but hey, thank you for coming in and— state. but hey, thank you for coming in and joining us in teattty— coming in and joining us in healthy debate. _ coming in and joining us in healthy debate. now, we said yestertay— healthy debate. now, we said yestertay we-t— healthy debate. now, we said yesterday we'd try a new experrmerrt.— yesterday we'd try a new experiment. you could video in guestrorrs. — experiment. you could video in questions. here's— experiment. you could video in questions. here's our first go at rt.— questions. here's our first go at rt.|tate— questions. here's our first go at it.ihave.idea- questions. here's our first go at it. have idea what steve at it. i have no idea what steve in manchester— at it. i have no idea what steve in manchester is— at it. i have no idea what steve in manchester is going ask . in manchester is going to ask. he in manchester is going to ask. te—ttrs- in manchester is going to ask. he _thislmoment he pre—recorded this a moment ago— he pre—recorded this a moment ago .— he pre—recorded this a moment ago -grte— he pre—recorded this a moment ago -grte-go- he pre—recorded this a moment ago -grte-go .- he pre—recorded this a moment
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ago -grte-go . tr,- ago. let's give it a go. hi, trget. — ago. let's give it a go. hi, urget. rt-s— ago. let's give it a go. hi, nigel. it's steve- ago. let's give it a go. hi, nigel. c nigel. it's steve from manchester here. quick question . my missus is a massive fan of yours. big admirer of you and yours. big admirer of you and your calves , and she can't your calves, and she can't believe the size of them. she says he must be bigger than jack grealish is the manchester city superstar who cost £100 million to question us. what sort of standard of football did you play? and what would you be worth on the transfer market now? thanks nigel. well well, steve from manchester. it's an incredibly personal— t it's an incredibly personal question to ask incredibly personal question to ast atout— incredibly personal question to ask about the _ incredibly personal question to ask about the size of my calves att— ask about the size of my calves at r— ask about the size of my calves at r tate— ask about the size of my calves at r have to— ask about the size of my calves and i have to be— ask about the size of my calves and i have to be honest with you,— and i have to be honest with you, ttey— and i have to be honest with you, ttey are— and i have to be honest with you, they are not— and i have to be honest with you, they are not exactly even rs— you, they are not exactly even one is massively— you, they are not exactly even one is massively overdeveloped att— one is massively overdeveloped arrt tte— one is massively overdeveloped arrt tte otter— one is massively overdeveloped and the other because i was actuatty— and the other because i was actuarry trt— and the other because i was actually hit by— and the other because i was actually hit by a— and the other because i was actually hit by a car that was tomg— actually hit by a car that was tomg atout— actually hit by a car that was doing about 25— actually hit by a car that was doing about 25 miles an hour and suwrtet— doing about 25 miles an hour and surtrtet rt— doing about 25 miles an hour and surtrtet rt rs— doing about 25 miles an hour and survived it is much— doing about 25 miles an hour and survived it is much smaller than the survived it is much smaller than tte otter— survived it is much smaller than tte otter .— survived it is much smaller than tte otter. rt— survived it is much smaller than the other . if both— survived it is much smaller than the other . if both calves were the other. if both calves were tte— the other. if both calves were rrte my— the other. if both calves were rrte my rrgtt— the other. if both calves were like my right calves, then youe— like my right calves, then you-e gutte— like my right calves, then you're quite right. i might make had you're quite right. i might make tat r— you're quite right. i might make tat r teet— you're quite right. i might make had i been younger, a very good
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repracemerrt— had i been younger, a very good replacement for— had i been younger, a very good replacement for jack grealish. satry— replacement for jack grealish. satty ttat— replacement for jack grealish. satty ttat rs— replacement for jack grealish. sadly that is not— replacement for jack grealish. sadly that is not to be. but i'm preaset— sadly that is not to be. but i'm preaset tte— sadly that is not to be. but i'm pleased the tech— sadly that is not to be. but i'm pleased the tech worked. and to repeat— pleased the tech worked. and to repeat tte— pleased the tech worked. and to repeat the point,— pleased the tech worked. and to repeat the point, i— pleased the tech worked. and to repeat the point, i will go on tatmg— repeat the point, i will go on taking question— repeat the point, i will go on taking question from you which wrt— taking question from you which wrt pray— taking question from you which wrt ptay ora— taking question from you which will play on screen now. jacob tees—togg— will play on screen now. jacob tees—wogg toms— will play on screen now. jacob rees—mogg joins me now in the stutro— rees—mogg joins me now in the stutro .— rees—mogg joins me now in the stutro . on— rees—mogg joins me now in the studio . oh, jacob,— rees—mogg joins me now in the studio . oh, jacob, nice 19 studio. oh, jacob, nice 19 suspectet— studio. oh, jacob, nice 19 suspected terrorists living in tour— suspected terrorists living in tour star— suspected terrorists living in four star hotels. _ suspected terrorists living in four star hotels. what are we going— four star hotels. what are we gomg to— four star hotels. what are we gomg to tot — four star hotels. what are we going to do? yttricc : four star hotels. what are we going to do? write : going to do? well, should we have any of these people in four star hotels? i mean, the fact ttat— star hotels? i mean, the fact ttat ttey-re — star hotels? i mean, the fact that they're terrorists- , i mean, the fact that they're terrorists is just tte— that they're terrorists is just tte rcmg— that they're terrorists is just tte rcmg ora— that they're terrorists is just the icing on a— that they're terrorists is just the icing on a particularly disagreeable— the icing on a particularly disagreeable cake . 'r: disagreeable cake. and this has to te— disagreeable cake. and this has to be stopped . i agree. i've disagreeable cake. and this has to bgotopped . i agree. i've disagreeable cake. and this has to bgot to )ed . i agree. i've disagreeable cake. and this has to b got to get. i agree. i've disagreeable cake. and this has to b got to get controlz. i've disagreeable cake. and this has to b got to get control of've disagreeable cake. and this has to b got to get control of the just got to get control of the small boats. and i hope this latest piece of legislation will do it. but we've got to make it happen and we mustn't be told what to do by the echr. that's the key. jacob, what have you got ttrs— the key. jacob, what have you got this evening— the key. jacob, what have you got this evening for- jacob, what have you got this evening for us?
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he's also very good at showing how being used divide how race is being used to divide us, not to unite us. no. trtttarrt— us, not to unite us. no. brilliant, brilliant . jacob, brilliant, brilliant. jacob, tate— brilliant, brilliant. jacob, tatelgreat— brilliant, brilliant. jacob, have great show. know you have a great show. i know you wrrr. — have a great show. i know you wrrr. -see— have a great show. i know you will. -see what- have a great show. i know you will. see what april will. let's see what april tsowes— will. let's see what april showers are _ will. let's see what april showers are in- will. let's see what april showers are in store for us tomorrow . hello there. good tomorrow. hello there. good eterrmg. — tomorrow. hello there. good eterrmg. rm— tomorrow. hello there. good evening. i'm jonathan vautrey for here your latest weather update from the met office has turned into quite a soggy end to tuesday for many of us and low pressure is going to stay with us over the next few days . it's us over the next few days. it's been weather been bringing these weather fronts western areas of the fronts into western areas of the uk they're slowly pushing uk and they're slowly pushing their eastwards as we head their way eastwards as we head throughout this throughout the rest of this evening and overnight, bringing rain to much of eastern england and up into scotland. some heavier bursts possible, particularly dumfries particularly across dumfries and galloway gales across eastern coastal areas of scotland. and it will the rain will be falling as snow over the grampians as well. some clearer spells developing for england wales developing for england and wales later on in night, but that later on in the night, but that will temperatures to drop will allow temperatures to drop off into those mid low off down into those mid low single figures. so quite a chilly start wednesday chilly start to wednesday morning. again, showers morning. again, some showers in the potential for some the west. potential for some snow pennines and snow over the pennines and higher as we higher ground of a&e as well. we then get this second pulse of
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rain moving back into northern ireland, wales, southwest england throughout wednesday. that accompanied by that will be accompanied by further the risk further strong winds. the risk of gales severe along coastlines , 60 mile an hour gusts possible. so do take care because there could be some travel disruption large travel disruption and large waves and temperatures quite disappointing ranging between nine ten degrees celsius, but probably feeling closer to 2 or 4 degrees when you are exposed to that. wind showers continuing , particularly across the northern half of the uk throughout night, throughout wednesday night, generally easing off a bit more across , central southern generally easing off a bit more acrossof , central southern generally easing off a bit more acrossof england.ltral southern generally easing off a bit more acrossof england. but southern generally easing off a bit more acrossof england. but againern generally easing off a bit more acrossof england. but again ,'n areas of england. but again, those clear spells allow those clear spells will allow temperatures off once temperatures to drop off once again feeling quite chilly again and feeling quite chilly into thursday . daytime, the into thursday. daytime, the winds will be easing off now across southern areas of the uk , helping it to just feel that slightly bit better compared to wednesday actually quite wednesday, but actually quite blustery northern blustery still across northern ireland northern of ireland and northern areas of england remaining england. it's remaining unsettled then as we move throughout friday throughout thursday and friday with another area of low pressure possibly pushing into southern the uk . southern areas of the uk. potential though, that things
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away . away. hello. good evening. it's me, jacob hello. good evening. it's me, racot tees-togg— hello. good evening. it's me, jacob rees—mogg .- hello. good evening. it's me, jacob rees—mogg . fear- c: " g it's me, jacob rees—mogg . fear not. i'm jacob rees—mogg. fear not. i'm tact— jacob rees—mogg. fear not. i'm tact trom— jacob rees—mogg. fear not. i'm tact trom my— jacob rees—mogg. fear not. i'm back from my easter, observing on state— back from my easter, observing on state or— back from my easter, observing on state of the— back from my easter, observing on state of the nation tonight . on state of the nation tonight. rte— on state of the nation tonight. the american— on state of the nation tonight. the american president, joe trterr— the american president, joe trterr ,— the american president, joe trterr , rs— the american president, joe biden , is arriving in belfast biden, is arriving in belfast any— biden, is arriving in belfast arry mmute— biden, is arriving in belfast any minute now. we'll be trmgmg— any minute now. we'll be trmgmg you— any minute now. we'll be bringing you live coverage as it tapperrs— bringing you live coverage as it tapperrs. mt— bringing you live coverage as it happens. and i'll— bringing you live coverage as it happens. and i'll be telling you wty— happens. and i'll be telling you wty. r— happens. and i'll be telling you wty. r ttmt— happens. and i'll be telling you why. i think the— happens. and i'll be telling you why. i think the so—called spectat— why. i think the so—called special relationship is sentimental- special relationship is sentimental hyperbole. the four day sentimental hyperbole. the four tay tumor— sentimental hyperbole. the four day junior doctors— sentimental hyperbole. the four day junior doctors strike begins , trmet— day junior doctors strike begins , trmet to— day junior doctors strike begins , timed to cause— day junior doctors strike begins , timed to cause maximum pain to patent— , timed to cause maximum pain to patent .— , timed to cause maximum pain to patent . stourt— , timed to cause maximum pain to patient . should doctors strike patient. should doctors strike at art— patient. should doctors strike at app wet— patient. should doctors strike at all? well, none of them were wrrrmg— at all? well, none of them were wrrrrrrg to— at all? well, none of them were willing to speak— at all? well, none of them were willing to speak to— at all? well, none of them were willing to speak to gb news totay,— willing to speak to gb news totay, att— willing to speak to gb news today, and here's a taste of one of today, and here's a taste of one or ttem— today, and here's a taste of one or them sorry,— today, and here's a taste of one of them. sorry, it— today, and here's a taste of one of them. sorry, it was winning speect— of them. sorry, it was winning speect tt— of them. sorry, it was winning speech gb news—
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