away . away. as i away.- as president away.— as president biden makes a away. — as president biden makes a very cursory— as president biden makes a very cursory yrsrr— as president biden makes a very cursory yrsrr ro— as president biden makes a very cursory visit to the _ as president biden makes a very cursory visit to the united kingdom,— cursory visit to the united kingdom, we'll- cursory visit to the united kingdom, we'll ask, does the soccror— kingdom, we'll ask, does the special relationship really cxrsrc — special relationship really exist? we'll— special relationship really exist? you; a special relationship really exist? ll exist? we'll have a look at prince harry. yes, he's coming, but meghan's not to the coronation. in just a few weeks time, a partial win, a little win, a first hurdle for those against ulez extension. i'll also be talking to a campaign donor who wants to disrupt my day at the grand national this saturday. i'll attempt to find out why. but before all of that, let's get the news with polly

middlehurst . let's get the news with polly middlehurst. nigel, let's get the news with polly middlehurst . nigel, thank you middlehurst. nigel, thank you and good— middlehurst. nigel, thank you and good evening— middlehurst. nigel, thank you and good evening to- m 3: nigel, thank you and good evening to you. the top srory— and good evening to you. the top srory rorrgur— and good evening to you. the top srory rourgrsr ou— and good evening to you. the top story tonight on gb— and good evening to you. the top story tonight on gb news is the umrco— story tonight on gb news is the united states— story tonight on gb news is the united states president has rourco— united states president has toured carlingford castle in couury— toured carlingford castle in county louth_ toured carlingford castle in county louth as part of his rrrrcc— county louth as part of his rurcc ooy— county louth as part of his three day visit— county louth as part of his three day visit to the republic of three day visit to the republic or record.— three day visit to the republic of ireland. today,— three day visit to the republic of ireland. today, crowds of well—wishers_ of ireland. today, crowds of well—wishers braved the rainy ucorrrcr— well—wishers braved the rainy ucorrrcr ro— well—wishers braved the rainy weather to watch _ well—wishers braved the rainy weather to watch his motorcade . rrr. — weather to watch his motorcade arrive . mr. biden's_ weather to watch his motorcade arrive . mr. biden's grandfather arrive. mr. biden's grandfather yomcs— arrive. mr. biden's grandfather , james finnegan,— arrive. mr. biden's grandfather , james finnegan, was born in ruc— , james finnegan, was born in use courrry. — , james finnegan, was born in the county. earlier, president croon— the county. earlier, president orocu spoke— the county. earlier, president biden spoke at— the county. earlier, president biden spoke at ulster university in norrrrcru— biden spoke at ulster university in northern ireland, where he urgrugrrco— in northern ireland, where he highlighted the— in northern ireland, where he highlighted the significance of the highlighted the significance of rho cooo— highlighted the significance of the good friday— highlighted the significance of the good friday agreement, pursing— the good friday agreement, prorsrug or— the good friday agreement, praising at the— the good friday agreement, praising at the same time, the windsor— praising at the same time, the windsor framework saying it ooorcssco— windsor framework saying it addressed the— windsor framework saying it addressed the practical rcourrcs— addressed the practical realities of— addressed the practical realities of brexit. sometimes, especially when the distance of history we forget how hard earned and how astounding that peace was at the moment . it peace was at the moment. it shifted the political gravity in our world. there were no guarantees that the deal on paper would hold , no guarantees

paper would hold, no guarantees that it would be able to deliver the progress we celebrate today . it took long, hard , hard years . it took long, hard, hard years of work to get to this place. yes, it took a people willing to come together in good faith and to risk boldly for the future . to risk boldly for the future. joe biden . now, the scottish joe biden. now, the scottish government is planning to launch a legal challenge against westminster's decision to veto new gender recognition reforms. scotland's social justice secretary says the bill was passed by an overwhelming majority in holyrood, with support from all parties. shirley—anne somerville warned the british government's use of section 35 risked setting a dangerous constitutional precedent of what she said were devolved matters. well, rishi sunak has defended the move, saying he has concerns over its impact on women's safety. now the ba.2 bma, rather, has formally asked the government to enter talks facilitated by the

conciliation service acas to help end the junior doctors pay dispute . it comes after dispute. it comes after thousands of junior doctors in england walked out for the second of four days of industrial action . downing industrial action. downing street have refused to negotiate unless the british medical association abandons demands for a 35% pay rise . the former bbc a 35% pay rise. the former bbc radio one dj, tim westwood , has radio one dj, tim westwood, has been interviewed twice under caution for five alleged sex offences between 1982 and 2016. the metropolitan police saying it interviewed a 65 year old man on march 15th and april 4th. this year. there has been no arrest . but last year, arrest. but last year, a statement from the representative of tim westwood said he had strongly denied all the allegations . now, heavy rain the allegations. now, heavy rain and 70 mile an hour gusts are forecast this evening as storm noah barrels into the uk. the met office saying there's a chance of heavy outbreaks of

rain and thunderstorms , rain and thunderstorms, particularly across the south—east of england this evening for pastors are also saying short term power cuts are likely as well as possible. travel disruption in acas, the all important weather. now here's . here's. nigel we've been here's. nigel- . we've been debating rcrc-s. nigel— . we've been debating this rcrc-s. urgcr— - we've been debating this for we've been debating this for decades - we've been debating this for decades arro— we've been debating this for decades and particularly ever since— decades and particularly ever rose. — decades and particularly ever since 1956. and— decades and particularly ever since 1956. and suez , when many since 1956. and suez, when many felt since 1956. and suez, when many for-roo— since 1956. and suez, when many for-rod crouc— since 1956. and suez, when many felt-had done us- since 1956. and suez, when many felt-had done us a- since 1956. and suez, when many felt had done us a bad felt america had done us a bad rum,— felt america had done us a bad rum, ocsorrc— felt america had done us a bad turn, despite not— felt america had done us a bad turn, despite not having stood nour— turn, despite not having stood ucxr ro— turn, despite not having stood ucxr ro coch— turn, despite not having stood next to each other in two world wars. does the— next to each other in two world wars. does the special relationship- wars. does the special relationship exist ? it goes on relationship exist? it goes on uro— relationship exist? it goes on and or— relationship exist? it goes on and arro— relationship exist? it goes on and on, and it— relationship exist? it goes on and on, and it is— relationship exist? it goes on and on, and it is actually a very— and on, and it is actually a very rmoorrour— and on, and it is actually a very important and a very fundamental— very important and a very fundamental question. critics wru— fundamental question. critics our soy— fundamental question. critics our soy crsor— fundamental question. critics will say that it's— fundamental question. critics will say that it's way too one sided — will say that it's way too one sided ru— will say that it's way too one sided in america's favour, and rosy-u— sided in america's favour, and rucy-u croc— sided in america's favour, and they'll cite extradition rrcorrcs— they'll cite extradition treaties and - they'll cite extradition treaties and they might just on uror— treaties and they might just on our rove— treaties and they might just on our rovc o— treaties and they might just on that have a point— treaties and they might just on that have a point . but i would that have a point. but i would

ouroys— that have a point. but i would ouroys argue— that have a point. but i would always argue that— that have a point. but i would always argue that in terms of moro— always argue that in terms of more ,— always argue that in terms of more , r— always argue that in terms of nato , | would— always argue that in terms of nato , i would always argue that nato, i would always argue that in nato, i would always argue that ru corms— nato, i would always argue that us rcrms or— nato, i would always argue that in terms of investment and trade arro— in terms of investment and trade and currurouy— in terms of investment and trade and currurouy ,— in terms of investment and trade and culturally , i— in terms of investment and trade and culturally , i think we're and culturally, i think we're coscrr— and culturally, i think we're closer actually— and culturally, i think we're closer actually than we've ever been — closer actually than we've ever been or— closer actually than we've ever been or ony— closer actually than we've ever been at any point— closer actually than we've ever been at any point in our ursrorrcs. — been at any point in our histories. so— been at any point in our histories. so i- been at any point in our histories. so i think the soccror— histories. so i think the special relationship does exist , our— special relationship does exist , our ro— special relationship does exist , our rr rus— special relationship does exist , but it has good— special relationship does exist , but it has good times and bad rrmcs— , but it has good times and bad rrmcs arro— , but it has good times and bad times, and that— , but it has good times and bad times, and that depends very much. — times, and that depends very much. ro— times, and that depends very much. it seems— times, and that depends very much. it seems to me, on who the us much. it seems to me, on who the us orcsrocur— much. it seems to me, on who the us orcsrocur or— much. it seems to me, on who the us president of the— much. it seems to me, on who the us president of the day is now . us president of the day is now. joe us president of the day is now. yoc orocu— us president of the day is now. joe biden famously in support of marry— joe biden famously in support of many rush— joe biden famously in support of many irish nationalist causes, nor— many irish nationalist causes, nor o— many irish nationalist causes, nor o for— many irish nationalist causes, nor o for or— many irish nationalist causes, not a fan of the— many irish nationalist causes, not a fan of the colour orange sorr— not a fan of the colour orange sorr or— not a fan of the colour orange once sort of brushed away a bbc rurcrvrcucr— once sort of brushed away a bbc interviewer when— once sort of brushed away a bbc interviewer when he was asked a oucsrrou— interviewer when he was asked a oucsrrou urch— interviewer when he was asked a oucsrrou who u— interviewer when he was asked a question with a simple, very rude,— question with a simple, very mde, rm— question with a simple, very rude, i'm irish,— question with a simple, very rude, i'm irish, sort of. please go arroy— rude, i'm irish, sort of. please go away. r— rude, i'm irish, sort of. please go away. r ruruk— rude, i'm irish, sort of. please go away. i think is— rude, i'm irish, sort of. please go away. i think is what he moor-r— go away. i think is what he moors-r our— go away. i think is what he meant. but to— go away. i think is what he meant. but to be fair to joe croon— meant. but to be fair to joe orocu roooy— meant. but to be fair to joe orocu roooy ,— meant. but to be fair to joe biden today , i— meant. but to be fair to joe biden today , i thought the biden today, i thought the speech— biden today, i thought the speech crsor— biden today, i thought the speech that he— biden today, i thought the speech that he gave in belfast very— speech that he gave in belfast vcry ,— speech that he gave in belfast ycry , very— speech that he gave in belfast was very , very careful. he was was very, very careful. he was going— was very, very careful. he was doing rus— was very, very careful. he was doing his best— was very, very careful. he was doing his best not— was very, very careful. he was doing his best not to be provocative _ doing his best not to be provocative in- doing his best not to be provocative in any way . that provocative in any way. that oocsu-r— provocative in any way. that oocsu-r scoo— provocative in any way. that doesn't stop the— provocative in any way. that doesn't stop the dup and others from— doesn't stop the dup and others from soyrug— doesn't stop the dup and others from soyrug roe-s— doesn't stop the dup and others

from saying he's anti british. sorro— from saying he's anti british. some rove— from saying he's anti british. some have even— from saying he's anti british. some have even said that he horos— some have even said that he hates britain. _ some have even said that he hates britain. well, i think horo— hates britain. well, i think hate probably— hates britain. well, i think hate probably is rather too srroug— hate probably is rather too srroug o— hate probably is rather too strong a word— hate probably is rather too strong a word ._ hate probably is rather too strong a word . but what do you strong a word. but what do you flunk?— strong a word. but what do you rurukc oo— strong a word. but what do you rurukc no you— strong a word. but what do you think? do you think the special rcrorrousruo— think? do you think the special relationship exists and does it monor— relationship exists and does it morrcr 7— relationship exists and does it morrcr c lor— relationship exists and does it matter ? let me— relationship exists and does it matter ? let me know what you matter? let me know what you crunc— matter? let me know what you ruruk. rorogc— matter? let me know what you think. farage at— matter? let me know what you think. farage at gbnews.uk . think. farage at gbnews.uk. you,— think. farage at gbnews.uk. you, cor-s— think. farage at gbnews.uk. you, cor-s go— think. farage at gbnews.uk. well, let's go straight to sorrosr— well, let's go straight to belfast and— well, let's go straight to belfast and join darren rrccorrrcy— belfast and join darren mccaffrey gb news is political soror— mccaffrey gb news is political corror .— mccaffrey gb news is political editor . darren.— mccaffrey gb news is political editor . darren. i— mccaffrey gb news is political editor. darren. i felt biden was going— editor. darren. i felt biden was doing rus— editor. darren. i felt biden was doing his absolute best not to be offensive— doing his absolute best not to be offensive to— doing his absolute best not to be offensive to anybody in that socccrr— be offensive to anybody in that socccrs roooy— be offensive to anybody in that speech today and— be offensive to anybody in that speech today and i thought he proooory— speech today and i thought he probably carried— speech today and i thought he probably carried it off . / probably carried it off. yeah, i reru— probably carried it off. yeah, i send ro— probably carried it off. yeah, i song so agree— probably carried it off. yeah, i tend to agree with that . you tend to agree with that. you could portray this visits nigel as somewhat of a failure. first of all, president biden didn't spend very much time in the facts. he was here for about 18 hours and i think he spent the majority of that in beds. also we know you look at the streets of belfast today, this was not a bill clinton moment in 1995. there were thousands, but not many them on the streets of many of them on the streets of

belfast to welcome president biden today. but no real sense of enthusiasm . and then you're of enthusiasm. and then you're right in pointing out that dup jeffrey donaldson this afternoon saying that this visit had not changed the political weather here, dynamics of politics here, the dynamics of politics had changed because this. had not changed because of this. biden however however, biden visit. however however, let's flip it around. the other way. let's look at what president biden had to say. i felt he threaded a very careful line today between talking about the need for power sharing, the need for compromise, and looking back at the hard won victories of the good friday agreement. 25 years on, while at the same time a kind of recognition that he needs to listen to unionism. he did say today that he was here to listen. he met briefly with the political added to the political leaders, added to that a real effort during that speech his british speech to talk about his british heritage as much as his irish heritage as much as his irish heritage , and also carrots heritage, and also that carrots that he kind of dangled in front of ulez them to say, you know what, i'm not going to force you to get the executive back up again. he said your again. he said that was your judgement make , but if you judgement to make, but if you

do, there billions of do, there could be billions of dollars investment for dollars of investment for northern ireland and also i think a visit that downing street will be happy with. nigel and that's because again, rishi sunak with president sunak got to meet with president biden for 45 minutes this morning. the third time morning. it's the third time they've since became they've met since he became prime minister a no, nothing substantive came out of that. but street are making a but downing street are making a really try really concerted effort to try and mend some of the broken relationships with the white house over last couple of house over the last couple of years. we'll have to see how that progresses over time. but there pleas, of course, there will be pleas, of course, that up the windsor that he did bring up the windsor framework. all in all, i framework. so all in all, i think not necessarily bad think not necessarily a bad visit, right in visit, but you're right in suggesting that actually the majority what president majority of what president biden's come to ireland do biden's come to ireland to do will what over the will be what happens over the next couple of days in next couple of days down in dubun next couple of days down in dublin than up here in dublin rather than up here in belfast. yeah, dublin rather than up here in belfast . yeah, it was a very belfast. yeah, it was a very cursory— belfast. yeah, it was a very cursory yrsrr— belfast. yeah, it was a very cursory visit and _ belfast. yeah, it was a very cursory visit and he- yeah, it was a very cursory visit and he lived up to his rumo— cursory visit and he lived up to his os— cursory visit and he lived up to his name as sleepy joe, as you say,— his name as sleepy joe, as you say, by— his name as sleepy joe, as you say by spcuorug— his name as sleepy joe, as you say, by spending more time in boo— say, by spending more time in boo crou— say, by spending more time in boo rrrou rc— say, by spending more time in bed than he actually spent out on engagements.— bed than he actually spent out on engagements. but but he was rcouy— on engagements. but but he was rcouy very— on engagements. but but he was really very strongly in support of rho— really very strongly in support of the windsor— really very strongly in support

of the windsor framework somcrrrrug— of the windsor framework something that just isn't going to something that just isn't going ro work— something that just isn't going ro work wrou— something that just isn't going to work with the _ something that just isn't going to work with the dup. yeah sunak,— to work with the dup. yeah suuok, or— to work with the dup. yeah sunak, of course, thrilled, ormosr— sunak, of course, thrilled, almost fawning. i thought, sunak, of course, thrilled, almost fawning. i thought , over almost fawning. i thought, over the almost fawning. i thought, over use amcrrcou— almost fawning. i thought, over the american president tonight, but the american president tonight, our ru— the american president tonight, but in summation— the american president tonight, but in summation , darren, as far but in summation, darren, as far as ruc— but in summation, darren, as far as use uk— but in summation, darren, as far as use uk rs— but in summation, darren, as far as the uk is concerned, what did crus— as the uk is concerned, what did his rug— as the uk is concerned, what did this trip actually— as the uk is concerned, what did this trip actually achieve ? kyiv this trip actually achieve? kyiv rorgcry— this trip actually achieve? kyiv rorgcry ,— this trip actually achieve? kyiv rorgcry , rsor— this trip actually achieve? kyiv rorgcry , nor very— this trip actually achieve? kyiv largely , not very much. 415.115 largely, not very much. you're rrgrr— largely, not very much. you're right ru— largely, not very much. you're right in saying the prime minister has gone to extraordinary lengths. i mean, i don't think he needed to turn up last night to greet president biden of air force one, but all in it is interesting today in all, it is interesting today when the white house was pushed on idea by arlene foster on this idea by arlene foster rac on gb news last night that somehow hates somehow president biden hates britain , the white house were britain, the white house were pretty firm in trying to bat that saying that was that away, saying that that was simply talked about simply untrue. they talked about the they about nato. the g7. they talked about nato. they un they talked about the un security council. i do think security council. and i do think on a personal level, nigel, and we know don't this was we know i don't think this was true of , of boris we know i don't think this was true of, of boris johnson or true of, of, of boris johnson or liz truss . i think on true of, of, of boris johnson or liz truss. i think on a true of, of, of boris johnson or liz truss . i think on a personal liz truss. i think on a personal level, joe biden and rishi

sunak, a bit awkward , but sunak, it's a bit awkward, but i think they do actually get on and we know while he's not and we know that while he's not going to go to the coronation , going to go to the coronation, there is going to be a state visit for joe biden there is going to be a state visit forjoe biden at some point the end of his point before the end of his presidency. that rishi presidency. and also that rishi sunak invited to the sunak has been invited to the white house in june. it is white house in june. so it is a work progress. but all in work in progress. but all in all, as i say, i think downing street and the white house will be pleased with this visit. the big is, will anything big question is, will anything change of months change in a couple of months with dup and the restoration with the dup and the restoration of stormont? the of stormont? that will be the real test of whether this has actually managed change actually managed to change the political weather here. darren mccaffrey thank _ political weather here. darren mccaffrey thank -very - c darren mccaffrey thank very much mccaffrey thank you very much ruocco. — mccaffrey thank you very much ruocco. arro— mccaffrey thank you very much indeed. and how— mccaffrey thank you very much indeed. and how wonderfully gourrcor— indeed. and how wonderfully political will— indeed. and how wonderfully political will sides? political will both sides? absorurcry— political will both sides? absolutely delighted. but uorruug— absolutely delighted. but nothing achieved at all. let's cork— nothing achieved at all. let's cork org— nothing achieved at all. let's talk big picture,— nothing achieved at all. let's talk big picture, this really big— talk big picture, this really org orcrurc— talk big picture, this really org orcrurc .— talk big picture, this really big picture .joe biden's visit big picture. joe biden's visit guss— big picture. joe biden's visit gives us— big picture. joe biden's visit grycs r— big picture. joe biden's visit gives us, i think— big picture. joe biden's visit gives us, i think the hook to rock— gives us, i think the hook to cork ooour— gives us, i think the hook to talk about these _ gives us, i think the hook to talk about these things. i'm joined— talk about these things. i'm yoruco oy— talk about these things. i'm joined by mitchell reese, former soccror— joined by mitchell reese, former soccror envoy— joined by mitchell reese, former special envoy to _ joined by mitchell reese, former special envoy to the northern round— special envoy to the northern ireland-process- special envoy to the northern ireland process under ireland peace process under rrcsrocrrr— ireland peace process under president bush,— ireland peace process under president bush, the rank of president bush, with the rank of ambassador— president bush, with the rank of ambassador and— president bush, with the rank of ambassador and now partner in brunswick— ambassador and now partner in brunswick group— ambassador and now partner in brunswick group geopolitics bourg— brunswick group geopolitics ucrug your— brunswick group geopolitics being your game now let's talk

ocrcucc— being your game now let's talk ocrcucc ro— being your game now let's talk defence to begin— being your game now let's talk defence to begin with . you know, defence to begin with. you know, srucc— defence to begin with. you know, rsory,— defence to begin with. you know, rsory, ru— defence to begin with. you know, since 1917, in almost every rug-or— since 1917, in almost every major conflict— since 1917, in almost every major conflict we've been pretty much — major conflict we've been pretty much sroc— major conflict we've been pretty much side by— major conflict we've been pretty much side by side— major conflict we've been pretty much side by side .— major conflict we've been pretty much side by side . and the much side by side. and the withdrawal— much side by side. and the withdrawal from afghanistan by rrcsrocrrr— withdrawal from afghanistan by president biden— withdrawal from afghanistan by president biden without even rcrcrrrug — president biden without even rcrcrrrug ro — president biden without even referring to the— president biden without even referring to the brits , has made referring to the brits, has made marry— referring to the brits, has made many or— referring to the brits, has made many or us— referring to the brits, has made many of us doubt— referring to the brits, has made many of us doubt whether that mrurory— many of us doubt whether that mrrrrory uro— many of us doubt whether that military and intelligence relationship— military and intelligence relationship would go on. it ro— relationship would go on. it seems to have— relationship would go on. it seems to have recovered since uror— seems to have recovered since our momcur— seems to have recovered since our r . — seems to have recovered since that moment . will 3 " l seems to have recovered since that moment . will 3 l that moment. well, i don't think the retreat from afghanistan was the retreat from afghanistan was the administration's finest moment. and i think they would probably agree with that. but the underlying military to military relationship and the intelligence sharing is unprecedented . so it's not just unprecedented. so it's not just five eyes. it's what we do by laterally all over the world thatis laterally all over the world that is at the heart of the special relationship , which i special relationship, which i believe continues . just to pick believe continues. just to pick up on believe continues. just to pick up or crsor— believe continues. just to pick up on that point.— believe continues. just to pick up on that point. so- {rim just to pick up on that point. so you're soyrug— up on that point. so you're soyrug uror— up on that point. so you're saying that the— up on that point. so you're saying that the bilateral shoring— saying that the bilateral shorrng or— saying that the bilateral sharing of information between the sharing of information between use roo— sharing of information between use go or— sharing of information between use go or us— sharing of information between the two of us is— sharing of information between the two of us is actually far more important— the two of us is actually far more important overall than five rycsc— more important overall than five rycsc r— more important overall than five rycsc r don-r— more important overall than five

eyes? i don't want— more important overall than five eyes? i don't want to compare ruc— eyes? i don't want to compare rrrc ruo. — eyes? i don't want to compare rrrc ruo. r— eyes? i don't want to compare rrrc ruo. r just— eyes? i don't want to compare the two. i just think- eyes? i don't want to compare the two. i just think that it's a special relation ship built up over years mutual respect, mutual sharing . that again is mutual sharing. that again is unprecedent . and we have this unprecedent. and we have this with no other country in the world. and it is i think, a fact that's widely accepted in washington that we have no better ally than great britain anywhere around the world. well, if that's the case, let's talk about trade now. you know, biden was about trade now. you know, biden gouguug— about trade now. you know, biden oonguug o— about trade now. you know, biden was dangling a carrot— 3 you know, biden was dangling a carrot saying, you— was dangling a carrot saying, you know,— was dangling a carrot saying, you know, ou— was dangling a carrot saying, you know, all go— was dangling a carrot saying, you know, all go back into srormorrr,— you know, all go back into stormont, get— you know, all go back into stormont, get power sharing back on stormont, get power sharing back or ruc— stormont, get power sharing back or use ogcuoo— stormont, get power sharing back on the agenda and— stormont, get power sharing back on the agenda and billions more oouors— on the agenda and billions more donors of— on the agenda and billions more dollars of investment could come to dollars of investment could come ro norrrrcru— dollars of investment could come to northern ireland.— dollars of investment could come to northern ireland. but you know,— to northern ireland. but you know, r— to northern ireland. but you know, r was— to northern ireland. but you know, i was talking to the trump administration— know, i was talking to the trump administration about a trade door— administration about a trade ocor bourg— administration about a trade deal being struck between the two countries.— deal being struck between the two countries. they were the rccpuuucous— two countries. they were the republicans were very excited ooour— republicans were very excited ooour rc— republicans were very excited about it. thought, hey, about it. they thought, hey, uror— about it. they thought, hey, with brexit,_ about it. they thought, hey, with brexit, there was all sous.— with brexit, there was all sorrs. arro— with brexit, there was all sorts. and we— with brexit, there was all sorts. and we did get 1 or 2 concessions— sorts. and we did get 1 or 2 concessions whisky,etcetera concessions on whisky, etcetera .-rrrcrc-s— concessions on whisky, etcetera .-rrrcrc-s ro— concessions on whisky, etcetera . there's no discussion . but but there's no discussion on . but but there's no discussion ou-rrro— . but but there's no discussion ou-rrro-yoc- . but but there's no discussion on-trip-joe biden. on this trip from joe biden ouour— on this trip from joe biden ooour o— on this trip from joe biden about a trade— on this trip from joe biden about a trade deal. and in fact, coro— about a trade deal. and in fact, we're told negotiations may not scorc— we're told negotiations may not even start until— we're told negotiations may not even start until 2027. so if the rcrorrousruo— even start until 2027. so if the relationship is— even start until 2027. so if the relationship is that good, why is ro—

relationship is that good, why is rr crus— relationship is that good, why is it this american administration has backed is it this american— administration has backed off? won.— administration has backed off? you r— administration has backed off? you r crink— administration has backed off? well, i think that— administration has backed off? well, i think that it— administration has backed off? well, i think that it is- administration has backed off? well, i think that it is a- well, i think that it is a bipartisan decision that trade deals are simply not going to happen. deals are simply not going to happen . and it's not just up to happen. and it's not just up to the executive branch. congress has to play along with it. yeah. and so, again , i, i don't think and so, again, i, i don't think that i would use that as a litmus test in terms of the nature of the relationship. i did think that what the president was saying today about northern ireland and foreign direct change direct investment does change the dynamic. i think sirjeffrey may have a little premature may have been a little premature in saying that it wasn't changed because holding out the idea of thousands of good, well—paying jobs in northern ireland has to be attractive kyiv and corporate america is not going to make that investment. if stormont isn't and running. no but of isn't up and running. no but of course the problem is that brexit has cut northern ireland off the rest of the united off from the rest of the united kingdom. in many ways, and we couro— kingdom. in many ways, and we court-ruc— kingdom. in many ways, and we could-the extent- kingdom. in many ways, and we could-the extent of- 3 in many ways, and we could the extent of that. could debate the extent of that. but could debate the extent of that. our-ro— could debate the extent of that. our-co gor— could debate the extent of that. but-to get back- could debate the extent of that. but-to get back to- could debate the extent of that. but to get back to this but i want to get back to this rrooc— but i want to get back to this rrooc ocu— but i want to get back to this trade deal because you see it's an extraordinary— trade deal because you see it's an extraordinary thing. america is an extraordinary thing. america rs—rorcrgul is the biggest single foreign ruvcsror— is the biggest single foreign investor-united- is the biggest single foreign investor united kingdom, investor in the united kingdom,

and investor in the united kingdom, org-scru— investor in the united kingdom, and still remarking and we are still remarking auro— and we are still remarking arne, ruc— and we are still remarking albie, the biggest foreign ruycsror— albie, the biggest foreign investor in— albie, the biggest foreign investor in the united states of america— investor in the united states of america .— investor in the united states of america . r— investor in the united states of america . i mean,— investor in the united states of america . i mean, that is a fact america. i mean, that is a fact . so— america. i mean, that is a fact . so surety— america. i mean, that is a fact . so surcry rc— america. i mean, that is a fact . so surely it would be logical to . so surely it would be logical ro moc— . so surely it would be logical to move sector— . so surely it would be logical to move sector by— . so surely it would be logical to move sector by sector towards us burrorug— to move sector by sector towards us burrorug o— to move sector by sector towards us building a trade— to move sector by sector towards us building a trade deal. the mosr— us building a trade deal. the most obvious— us building a trade deal. the most obvious one of course, bourg— most obvious one of course, being ru— most obvious one of course, being in financial services where— being in financial services where users— being in financial services where there are and i worked in fruoucror— where there are and i worked in financial services— where there are and i worked in financial services for american coruoruocs— financial services for american commtcso tor— financial services for american companies for 20— financial services for american companies for 20 years and there are some ridiculous— companies for 20 years and there are some ridiculous little torrtcrs— are some ridiculous little barriers to— are some ridiculous little barriers to trade. why can't we tomorr— barriers to trade. why can't we move forward and— barriers to trade. why can't we move forward and somehow it ott— move forward and somehow it seems all the— move forward and somehow it seems all the way through that uror— seems all the way through that what mos— seems all the way through that what has stopped— seems all the way through that what has stopped joe biden doing this what has stopped joe biden doing mts 7— what has stopped joe biden doing mm o amt— what has stopped joe biden doing this ? and pelosi_ what has stopped joe biden doing this ? and pelosi was very this? and pelosi was very outspoken— this? and pelosi was very outspoken on— this? and pelosi was very outspoken on it, too, was this wrote— outspoken on it, too, was this whole business— outspoken on it, too, was this whole business of— outspoken on it, too, was this whole business of , you know, the whole business of, you know, the northern — whole business of, you know, the northern irish— whole business of, you know, the northern irish protocol. you're suggcsrtmg— northern irish protocol. you're suggcsrtmg ro— northern irish protocol. you're suggesting to me that if they go tact— suggesting to me that if they go tact ro— suggesting to me that if they go back to stormont,— suggesting to me that if they go back to stormont, we could move turmcrc — back to stormont, we could move even further? well,— back to stormont, we could move even further? well, i— back to stormont, we could move even further? lr�*v�*iccc even further? well, i think that's true . i think the windsor that's true. i think the windsor framework does address a lot of the concerns that the union has had in northern ireland. again building a constituency for free trade agreements is a challenge in states on a in the united states on a bipartisan basis. so it's not just the biden administration. there were voices that did not

want this. the trump want to do this. and the trump administration, was a free administration, there was a free trade that united trade agreement that the united states in view, should be states, in my view, should be joining the pacific region joining in the pacific region that shore up our position that would shore up our position vis a vis china. that would shore up our position vis a vis china . and it's vis a vis china. and it's completely logical from a strategic point of view, but yet it doesn't have the constituency yet in order to make that happen. so again, free trade in theory is a good thing. the politics in america are right now a little tricky. yeah. and ogrtcutturo— now a little tricky. yeah. and agriculture, of— now a little tricky. yeah. and agriculture, of course,- l j my, yeah. and agriculture, of course, always tctmg—rol being very, very difficult to mcgortorc — being very, very difficult to negotiate around being very, very difficult to- negotiate-around the negotiate anywhere around the trout.— negotiate anywhere around the world-course.— negotiate anywhere around the world. .course. so - negotiate anywhere around the world. course. so let's sum world. of course. so let's sum mts— world. of course. so let's sum mts up,— world. of course. so let's sum mts up, strutt— world. of course. so let's sum this up, shall we,— world. of course. so let's sum this up, shall we, mitchell? i uouto— this up, shall we, mitchell? i uoutct soy— this up, shall we, mitchell? i would say that— this up, shall we, mitchell? i would say that the special relationship— would say that the special relationship and i'm with you, i mtmt— relationship and i'm with you, i mtmt tr— relationship and i'm with you, i mtmt tr goos— relationship and i'm with you, i think it does exist— relationship and i'm with you, i think it does exist and it's root.— think it does exist and it's root. tr-s— think it does exist and it's real. it's been— think it does exist and it's real. it's been a- think it does exist and it's real. it's been a little cool tor— real. it's been a little cool for mo— real. it's been a little cool for the last— real. it's been a little cool for the last couple of years, our— for the last couple of years, our yrs-rc— for the last couple of years, but we're still— for the last couple of years, but we're still best friends. mom— but we're still best friends. yeah, absolutely. l: yeah, absolutely. good. atsotutcty— yeah, absolutely. good. absolutely. on- yeah, absolutely. l: absolutely. on that note, i'll say— absolutely. on that note, i'll soy mout— absolutely. on that note, i'll soy mom you— absolutely. on that note, i'll say thank you very much indeed for say thank you very much indeed tor totmtmg— say thank you very much indeed tor totmtmg us— say thank you very much indeed for joining us. prince harry is forjoining us. prince harry is to ottoma— forjoining us. prince harry is to attend the— forjoining us. prince harry is to attend the coronation on may the to attend the coronation on may mo om. — to attend the coronation on may mo om. cosm— to attend the coronation on may the 6th. gosh, he— to attend the coronation on may the 6th. gosh, he kept everybody wotrtmg. — the 6th. gosh, he kept everybody wotrtmg. our— the 6th. gosh, he kept everybody waiting. but meghan markle is not gotmg— waiting. but meghan markle is not gotmg ro— waiting. but meghan markle is not gotmg to to— waiting. but meghan markle is not going to be there. is this mo— not going to be there. is this mo rtgm— not going to be there. is this the right decision ? we'll

the right decision? we'll otscuss— the right decision? we'll discuss all— the right decision? we'll discuss all of- the right decision? we'll discuss all of that with tom cowor— discuss all of that with tom oowcr marry-s— discuss all of that with tom bower, harry's biographer , in bower, harry's biographer, in tusr— bower, harry's biographer, in tusr o— bower, harry's biographer, in tusr o momcm— bower, harry's biographer, in just a moment .—

well, your thoughts on whether the well, your thoughts on whether mo spectat— well, your thoughts on whether the special relationship exists. ouc— the special relationship exists. 0m tower— the special relationship exists. one viewer says— the special relationship exists. one viewer says it all depends uto— one viewer says it all depends urso mo— one viewer says it all depends who the president— one viewer says it all depends who the president is and who the trtmc— who the president is and who the prime minister— who the president is and who the prime minister is.— who the president is and who the prime minister is. thatcher and tccogom— prime minister is. thatcher and tccogom ott— prime minister is. thatcher and reagan did good.— prime minister is. thatcher and reagan did good. well, they had a reagan did good. well, they had o rcmortotty— reagan did good. well, they had a remarkably close relationship. amorou— a remarkably close relationship. amtrcu says— a remarkably close relationship. andrew says, not— a remarkably close relationship. andrew says, not under biden. trott— andrew says, not under biden. yrctt amorou— andrew says, not under biden. well andrew, i— andrew says, not under biden. well andrew, i think our relationship— well andrew, i think our relationship has been in a deep mocc— relationship has been in a deep trccc troytc— relationship has been in a deep freeze. maybe it's— relationship has been in a deep freeze. maybe it's only in the mags— freeze. maybe it's only in the rrtogc otter— freeze. maybe it's only in the fridge after today , given that fridge after today, given that the fridge after today, given that me trtmc— fridge after today, given that the prime minister and the us trcstctcm— the prime minister and the us trcstctcm oo— the prime minister and the us president do ,_ the prime minister and the us president do , as— the prime minister and the us president do , as darren said, president do, as darren said, appear— president do, as darren said, appear to— president do, as darren said, appear to get— president do, as darren said, ooocor to get or— president do, as darren said, appear to get on pretty well. troy-rc— appear to get on pretty well. tmcy-rc gotmg— appear to get on pretty well. tmcy-rc gotmg ro— appear to get on pretty well. they're going to be a state ytstr— they're going to be a state vtstr tor— they're going to be a state visit for biden— they're going to be a state visit for biden here. rishi summ— visit for biden here. rishi sumot ott— visit for biden here. rishi sunak off to— visit for biden here. rishi sunak off to the white house oocsm-r— sunak off to the white house doesn't mean— sunak off to the white house doesn't mean things are perfect, but maybe— doesn't mean things are perfect, but maybe they— doesn't mean things are perfect,

but maybe they are a little terror— but maybe they are a little better than _ but maybe they are a little better than they were a few momm— better than they were a few months ago— better than they were a few months ago .— better than they were a few months ago , dave says. not when months ago, dave says. not when the months ago, dave says. not when mo ocmocrors— months ago, dave says. not when the democrats are— months ago, dave says. not when the democrats are in power. he tsm-r— the democrats are in power. he tsm-r .— the democrats are in power. he tsm-r . toms,— the democrats are in power. he isn't . dave, it's— the democrats are in power. he isn't . dave, it's also fair to isn't. dave, it's also fair to room— isn't. dave, it's also fair to potm our— isn't. dave, it's also fair to point out that— isn't. dave, it's also fair to point out that there is, even utmtm— point out that there is, even utmtm mo— point out that there is, even within the republicans, a wing mor— within the republicans, a wing mot ts— within the republicans, a wing mot ts very— within the republicans, a wing mot ts vcry .— within the republicans, a wing that is very , very— within the republicans, a wing that is very , very isolationist. that is very, very isolationist. tctctrorct— that is very, very isolationist. tctctrorct says— that is very, very isolationist. richard says it— that is very, very isolationist. richard says it probably did you— richard says it probably did uctt .— richard says it probably did uctt . tro— richard says it probably did well . we were— richard says it probably did well . we were an eu member well. we were an eu member utsrortcotty,— well. we were an eu member historically, this— well. we were an eu member historically, this was the case. now:— historically, this was the case. you, t— historically, this was the case. you, t mtmt— historically, this was the case. now, i think ireland is rapidly tuttttttmg— now, i think ireland is rapidly fulfilling this— now, i think ireland is rapidly fulfilling this position . well, fulfilling this position. well, tumour,— fulfilling this position. well, richard, that— fulfilling this position. well, richard, that is— fulfilling this position. well, richard, that is a very interesting— richard, that is a very interesting one. it is true if you— interesting one. it is true if you 90— interesting one. it is true if you go tact— interesting one. it is true if you go tuck ro— interesting one. it is true if you go back to the early 60s mor— you go back to the early 60s mot mo— you go back to the early 60s that the american administrations did want us to tom— administrations did want us to totm mo— administrations did want us to tom mo ttc. — administrations did want us to join the eec. they absolutely otto— join the eec. they absolutely otct. amt— join the eec. they absolutely otct. amt troy— join the eec. they absolutely did. and they wanted a strong turooc. — did. and they wanted a strong turopc. wry— did. and they wanted a strong europe. why well, quite simply because— europe. why well, quite simply because they— europe. why well, quite simply because they had— europe. why well, quite simply because they had half a million or— because they had half a million men at arms in— because they had half a million men at arms in europe to try and motmotm— men at arms in europe to try and motmotm mo— men at arms in europe to try and maintain the peace— men at arms in europe to try and maintain the peace with the warsaw— maintain the peace with the warsaw pact.— maintain the peace with the warsaw pact. they thought it was arroy— warsaw pact. they thought it was away or— warsaw pact. they thought it was a way of reducing— warsaw pact. they thought it was a way of reducing their commitment. - a way of reducing their commitment. but actually being ourstctc— commitment. but actually being ourstctc mo— commitment. but actually being outside the european union, i mtmt— outside the european union, i mtmt motes— outside the european union, i think makes us— outside the european union, i think makes us an even more votuottc— think makes us an even more votuottc mo— think makes us an even more valuable and powerful bridge between— valuable and powerful bridge between tu— valuable and powerful bridge between eu states and america, cspcctotty— between eu states and america, cspcctotty ottom— between eu states and america, especially when it— between eu states and america, especially when it comes to

ctctcmcc— especially when it comes to defence and— especially when it comes to defence and many other areas roo. — defence and many other areas too. so— defence and many other areas too. so finally— defence and many other areas too. so finally the— defence and many other areas too. so finally the news is out . trtmcc— too. so finally the news is out . trtmcc marry— too. so finally the news is out . prince harry will— too. so finally the news is out . prince harry will on may the en.— . prince harry will on may the em to— . prince harry will on may the 6th, be attending— . prince harry will on may the 6th, be attending the coronation,- 6th, be attending the coronation, but his wife , coronation, but his wife, rtcgtrom— coronation, but his wife, rtcgmm mo— coronation, but his wife, meghan, the duchess of sussex , meghan, the duchess of sussex, utt— meghan, the duchess of sussex, uttt mor— meghan, the duchess of sussex, uttt not to — meghan, the duchess of sussex, will not be there.— meghan, the duchess of sussex, will not be there. now, we're roto— will not be there. now, we're rotct mo— will not be there. now, we're told the main— will not be there. now, we're told the main reason is that may the told the main reason is that may mo om— told the main reason is that may mo om ts— told the main reason is that may the 6th is little— told the main reason is that may the 6th is little archie's tourm— the 6th is little archie's fourth birthday. i'm going to be joined— fourth birthday. i'm going to be totmco rtgm— fourth birthday. i'm going to be joined right now— fourth birthday. i'm going to be joined right now by tom bower, author— joined right now by tom bower, author or— joined right now by tom bower, author of rebel— joined right now by tom bower, author of rebel prince down the ttmc. — author of rebel prince down the ttmc. amt— author of rebel prince down the ttmc. amt tom— author of rebel prince down the line. and tom, none of us are privy— line. and tom, none of us are ortyy ro— line. and tom, none of us are privy to me— line. and tom, none of us are privy to the negotiations that trove — privy to the negotiations that trove gomc— privy to the negotiations that trove gone on — privy to the negotiations that have gone on behind the scenes mo— have gone on behind the scenes out whether— have gone on behind the scenes and whether they— have gone on behind the scenes and whether they were arguing about— and whether they were arguing about outcro— and whether they were arguing about where they— and whether they were arguing about where they were going to sit about where they were going to st or— about where they were going to sit or whether— about where they were going to sit or whether they were going to to — sit or whether they were going to to or— sit or whether they were going to to or me — sit or whether they were going to be on the balcony. but i guess— to be on the balcony. but i guess m— to be on the balcony. but i guess to mo— to be on the balcony. but i guess in the end , it probably is guess in the end, it probably is the guess in the end, it probably is me rtgm— guess in the end, it probably is me rtgm mug,— guess in the end, it probably is the right thing, is— guess in the end, it probably is the right thing, is it not, that marry— the right thing, is it not, that hurry orrcmts— the right thing, is it not, that harry attends his— the right thing, is it not, that harry attends his father's coronation— harry attends his father's coronation .— harry attends his father's coronation . in lr�*v�*iccc coronation. in well, i think it's an ugly compromise. i think that we must all be grateful that we must all be grateful that kate in the end, i think, prevented meghan coming and said

she wouldn't have her there under any circumstances . and if under any circumstances. and if she did come, she had to sit at the back. but i do think that for the royal family harry's presence is constitutionally important. after all, if, god forbid , something happened to forbid, something happened to the cambridges and all of them died, we'd have king harry on the throne after charles. so he's got to be there . the he's got to be there. the question is, what his role will be when he gets to london. and i think that the arguments over the last few days have been very much to minimise his presence in the abbey , right? so that will the abbey, right? so that will of course, a lot of that will depend where they seat him, etcetera. but the other of mo — etcetera. but the other of course the other- , but the other of course the other big moment, utrcmcr— course the other big moment, umcmcr tr-s— course the other big moment, whether it's a— course the other big moment, whether it's a coronation or a morto— whether it's a coronation or a morto mottomot— whether it's a coronation or a major national event, are those or me— major national event, are those scenes on the balcony at buckingham _ scenes on the balcony at buckingham palace with the cruuots— buckingham palace with the crowds below— buckingham palace with the crowds below .— buckingham palace with the crowds below . so and we've been crowds below. so and we've been rott— crowds below. so and we've been rott m— crowds below. so and we've been rott tm tuc— crowds below. so and we've been told in the run— crowds below. so and we've been told in the run up— crowds below. so and we've been told in the run up to— crowds below. so and we've been told in the run up to this that tuc— told in the run up to this that me two— told in the run up to this that me two or— told in the run up to this that the two of them— told in the run up to this that the two of them would not be on the two of them would not be on me totcomy— the two of them would not be on the balcony because they weren't uuorttmg— the balcony because they weren't uuorttmg royots— the balcony because they weren't working royals. i— the balcony because they weren't

working royals. i wonder whether ttcgtuom— working royals. i wonder whether rtcgtrom mor— working royals. i wonder whether meghan, not being— working royals. i wonder whether meghan, not being there makes it a meghan, not being there makes it o utt— meghan, not being there makes it o rt cosy— meghan, not being there makes it o rt cosy tor— meghan, not being there makes it a bit easy for harry— meghan, not being there makes it a bit easy for harry to appear utm— a bit easy for harry to appear uuttr tuc— a bit easy for harry to appear with the rest— a bit easy for harry to appear with the rest of— a bit easy for harry to appear with the rest of his family on trot— with the rest of his family on trot totcomy— with the rest of his family on that balcony . _ with the rest of his family on that balcony . lr�*tiiiee " ”g that balcony. well, in theory, yes. but i think in practise it will be terrible if charles did that , because i will be terrible if charles did that, because i think if he let harry come on the balcony, he'd also have to have prince andrew on the balcony . and to have two on the balcony. and to have two renegade princes in front of the pubuc renegade princes in front of the public like that would be a very bad start to king charles's reign. i think the coronation in the end is all about charles. what sort of king is he going to be? will he be accepted? will he be? will he be accepted? will he be popular? will he make an impression that there's an age of king charles iii and the squabbling about these two princes is not a good way to start your reign, let alone the coronation itself. so i think the most important thing is for harry to be there. probably from charles's point of view , but to charles's point of view, but to be as invisible as possible . all

be as invisible as possible. all okay. okay. be as invisible as possible. all okay. okay . and just a final okay. okay. and just a final thought,— okay. okay. and just a final mougm, tom. — okay. okay. and just a final thought, tom. if— okay. okay. and just a final thought, tom. if i- okay. and just a final thought, tom. if i may. the mug,— thought, tom. if i may. the ttmg, umtcr— thought, tom. if i may. the king, under pressure from the cuorttom— king, under pressure from the cuorttom .— king, under pressure from the guardian , has— king, under pressure from the guardian , has agreed to open up guardian, has agreed to open up the historical— guardian, has agreed to open up the historical documents to see rumor— the historical documents to see what ttmtogcs— the historical documents to see what linkages that there may touc— what linkages that there may trouc occu— what linkages that there may have been going back centuries utm— have been going back centuries uuttr tuc— have been going back centuries with the slave— have been going back centuries with the slave trade . is he in with the slave trade. is he in tomgcr— with the slave trade. is he in tomgcr torc— with the slave trade. is he in danger here of— with the slave trade. is he in danger here of trying to please moss— danger here of trying to please tuosc m— danger here of trying to please those in society— danger here of trying to please those in society who don't support— those in society who don't support tuc— those in society who don't support the monarchy anyway and tcouc— support the monarchy anyway and tcouc tots— support the monarchy anyway and leave his natural— support the monarchy anyway and leave his natural supporters scrorcmtmg— leave his natural supporters scratching their— leave his natural supporters scratching their heads and uuomtcrtmg— scratching their heads and wondering why he's doing it? trott— wondering why he's doing it? uuctt. t— wondering why he's doing it? uuctt. t mmt— wondering why he's doing it? well, i think he— wondering why he's doing it? well, i think he had- wondering why he's doing it? well, i think he had no- wondering why he's doing it? well, i think he had no choice but to do it because he couldn't say. i will not find out what happened 300 years ago . i think happened 300 years ago. i think the consequences of what he discovers is the really important issue and reparations is an absolute no no. and i don't think that charles in any way will want to go down the path the guardian has gone , path the guardian has gone, which is to rewrite history and pretend that somehow what happened 300 years ago applies to us today. so i think

politically, he had to say , yes, politically, he had to say, yes, have a look. but practically the result will be, well, so what? we're not going to take any nofice we're not going to take any notice today . what happened all notice today. what happened all that long time ago . we're not that long time ago. we're not going to become woke and follow all the traditional dynasties in the world will stand up against them . well, tom bower, always them. well, tom bower, always a ptcosurc— them. well, tom bower, always a ptcosurc ro— them. well, tom bower, always a pleasure to have— them. well, tom bower, always a pleasure to have you— well, tom bower, always a pleasure to have you on the program.— pleasure to have you on the program. amt— pleasure to have you on the program. out t— pleasure to have you on the program. and i absolutely hope you-rc— program. and i absolutely hope you rtgm— program. and i absolutely hope you're right about— program. and i absolutely hope you're right about that last pom.— you're right about that last potm. t— you're right about that last point. i really,— you're right about that last point. i really, truly do. thank you,— point. i really, truly do. thank you tom.— point. i really, truly do. thank you, tom. m— point. i really, truly do. thank you, tom. m o— point. i really, truly do. thank you, tom. in a moment, we'll touc— you, tom. in a moment, we'll trouc o— you, tom. in a moment, we'll trouc o toot— you, tom. in a moment, we'll have a look at— you, tom. in a moment, we'll have a look at what happened in the have a look at what happened in ms tmgttsm— have a look at what happened in the english channel on easter sumtoy— the english channel on easter sumtoy mt— the english channel on easter sunday and all— the english channel on easter sunday and all of this following a sunday and all of this following o promtsc— sunday and all of this following o promtsc ro— sunday and all of this following a promise to give— sunday and all of this following a promise to give the french a tumor— a promise to give the french a tumor torso— a promise to give the french a further £480 million. all of mm— further £480 million. all of mm m— further £480 million. all of mm to o— further £480 million. all of that in a moment. stick with us, gb that in a moment. stick with us, ct tours.— that in a moment. stick with us, ct nous. toss— that in a moment. stick with us, gb news. lose the— that in a moment. stick with us, gb news. lose the people's .

channel tr- channel it was easter commot— it was easter sunday and we'd expect— it was easter sunday and we'd crpccr tr— it was easter sunday and we'd expect it because— it was easter sunday and we'd expect it because the seas were toot— expect it because the seas were toot flor— expect it because the seas were dead flat that— expect it because the seas were dead flat that there'd be a lot of dead flat that there'd be a lot or mtgrom— dead flat that there'd be a lot of migrant boats— dead flat that there'd be a lot of migrant boats crossing the tumor— of migrant boats crossing the chopper as— of migrant boats crossing the channel as it— of migrant boats crossing the channel as it turned out, there pcmops— channel as it turned out, there were perhaps fewer than we'd omtctporct. — were perhaps fewer than we'd anticipated. .the- were perhaps fewer than we'di anticipated. .the-for anticipated. and the reason for mor— anticipated. and the reason for trot us— anticipated. and the reason for that was there _ anticipated. and the reason for that was there was some really pretty— that was there was some really pretty mtct— that was there was some really pretty thick banks— that was there was some really pretty thick banks of fog in the tmgttsm— pretty thick banks of fog in the english channel.— pretty thick banks of fog in the english channel. but the french nouy— english channel. but the french nouy uuctt— english channel. but the french nouy uuctt .— english channel. but the french uouy uuctt , troy— english channel. but the french navy well , they were up to their navy well, they were up to their old navy well, they were up to their ott rrtcts — navy well, they were up to their ott rrtcts ot— navy well, they were up to their old tricks, of course, escorting ttmgtutcs— old tricks, of course, escorting dinghies across— old tricks, of course, escorting dinghies across the channel, tr— dinghies across the channel, even if there _ dinghies across the channel, even if there were only a couple of even if there were only a couple or tuumtrct— even if there were only a couple of hundred yards— even if there were only a couple of hundred yards off the beach. trots— of hundred yards off the beach. ttuts mssgc— of hundred yards off the beach. this message was— of hundred yards off the beach. this message was sent from the trench— this message was sent from the trench mouy— this message was sent from the trench mouy ro— this message was sent from the french navy to a— this message was sent from the french navy to a british ferry. ttsrcm— french navy to a british ferry. ttsrcm ro— french navy to a british ferry. listen to this— french navy to a british ferry. listen to this morning. 3 listen to this morning. sir, i am — listen to this morning. sir, i am currcmty— listen to this morning. sir, i am currently ahead of you . for am currently ahead of you. for your. am currently ahead of you. for your . four am currently ahead of you. for your. four for three nautical miles and conducting sar operation with two small craft and bf typhoon . is it possible? and bf typhoon. is it possible? possible for you to take a wide berth on your port side ? berth on your port side? unfortunately, due to the

tomc— unfortunately, due to the trotttc uuc — unfortunately, due to the traffic we cannot alter course rouuorts— traffic we cannot alter course rouuorts mo — traffic we cannot alter course towards the vessel in restricted utstttttry— towards the vessel in restricted utstttttry .— towards the vessel in restricted utstttttry , so— towards the vessel in restricted visibility , so we— towards the vessel in restricted visibility , so we will alter visibility, so we will alter course to starboard. [3th course to starboard. okay. so mout— course to starboard. okay. so thank you for your cooperation. switching channel one six over well , that story was run and well, that story was run and those pictures you saw by special investigations editor of the daily mail, sue read , the daily mail, sue read, somebody who spent as much if not more time than me on this whole cross channel issue . so, i whole cross channel issue. so, i mean, clearly , conditions- 3 so, i mean, clearly , conditions were mean, clearly, conditions were gutte— mean, clearly, conditions were gutrc tomgcrous— mean, clearly, conditions were quite dangerous in the channel amt— quite dangerous in the channel amt you— quite dangerous in the channel amt you mort— quite dangerous in the channel and you heard that from the coprotm— and you heard that from the coprotm ot— and you heard that from the captain of the— and you heard that from the captain of the p&o ferry . but captain of the p&o ferry. but tsp-r— captain of the p&o ferry. but tsm-r tr— captain of the p&o ferry. but tsm-r tr o— captain of the p&o ferry. but tsm-r tr o tott— captain of the p&o ferry. but isn't it a bit galling given trot— isn't it a bit galling given trot tuc— isn't it a bit galling given that the deal— isn't it a bit galling given that the deal that our prime tttmtsrcr— that the deal that our prime minister whose— that the deal that our prime minister whose big pledge, of ts ro— minister whose big pledge, of course, is to stop— minister whose big pledge, of course, is to stop the boats and rot— course, is to stop the boats and rot mo— course, is to stop the boats and rot mo tr— course, is to stop the boats and rot mo tt t-m— course, is to stop the boats and tell me if i'm wrong, but as i p,— tell me if i'm wrong, but as i p, too-s— tell me if i'm wrong, but as i see it, he's given— tell me if i'm wrong, but as i see it, he's given them promise of see it, he's given them promise or motocr— see it, he's given them promise or mother yor— see it, he's given them promise of another yet another . £480 of another yet another. £480 mttttom. — of another yet another. £480 mttttom. amt— of another yet another. £480 million. and yet— of another yet another. £480 million. and yet the french navy are million. and yet the french navy stu— million. and yet the french navy are still escorting— million. and yet the french navy are still escorting boats over to tuc— are still escorting boats over to me tz— are still escorting boats over to the 12 mile— are still escorting boats over to the 12 mile line. and then

ttrcrotty— to the 12 mile line. and then literally handing them over to porter— literally handing them over to border force— literally handing them over to border force and— literally handing them over to border force and clearing ortcrtmg— border force and clearing ordering are— border force and clearing ordering are are ferry the p&o terry— ordering are are ferry the p&o rcrry trtmgtmg— ordering are are ferry the p&o ferry bringing british holidaymakers to france, ordered it holidaymakers to france, ordered tr our— holidaymakers to france, ordered tr out or— holidaymakers to france, ordered tr out of ms— holidaymakers to france, ordered it out of the ferry— holidaymakers to france, ordered it out of the ferry lane . it out of the ferry lane. so to— it out of the ferry lane. so it's ordering— it out of the ferry lane. so it's ordering to— it out of the ferry lane. so it's ordering to make a dangerous manoeuvre as the captain or the officer on board the ferry intimated . and later the ferry intimated. and later on in the tape , she's saying, on in the tape, she's saying, will you go to port? and he said, no, i can't go to port. i have to go to starboard . so have to go to starboard. so almost everything i have to say that the officer on the french warship said was wrong. yeah. in terms of the instruction she was giving , which made it even more giving, which made it even more dangerous . giving, which made it even more dangerous. so giving, which made it even more dangerous . so there was giving, which made it even more dangerous. so there was a very i got to calls it almost instantly on sunday morning from out in the channel. and they said, what is happening here is highly dangerous . is happening here is highly dangerous. uh, is happening here is highly dangerous . uh, literally the dangerous. uh, literally the shipping lane , the busiest shipping lane, the busiest shipping lane, the busiest shipping lane, the busiest shipping lane in the world, ships are having to move out of the way. they're calling the

coastguard saying what is happening is this ferry has to make this manoeuvre on the orders of the french warship , orders of the french warship, which is going to meet border force to hand over 90 migrants. but it's for . £480 force to hand over 90 migrants. but it's for. £480 million on top of £200 million. we've given a little top of £200 million. we've given o ttrrtc ott— top of £200 million. we've given a little bit more— top of £200 million. we've given a little bit more than— top of £200 million. we've given a little bit more than that- a little bit more than that octuotty— a little bit more than that actually. already dodi what's it torc— actually. already dodi what's it tort trott— actually. already dodi what's it tort wen, t— actually. already dodi what's it for? well, i cannot— actually. already dodi what's it for? well, i cannot imagine how you— for? well, i cannot imagine how you com— for? well, i cannot imagine how you can negotiate— for? well, i cannot imagine how you can negotiate this without mottmg— you can negotiate this without mottmg tr— you can negotiate this without mottmg tr port— you can negotiate this without making it part of— you can negotiate this without making it part of the deal is to stop— making it part of the deal is to stop rcrrytmg— making it part of the deal is to stop rcrrytmg .— making it part of the deal is to stop ferrying , escorting them stop ferrying, escorting them ro— stop ferrying, escorting them ro t— stop ferrying, escorting them over to us. "r5.3;3g stop ferrying, escorting them over to us. "r5.3;lg over to us. i mean, surely the french must have a search and rescue service just like us. they do . they do. they have the they do. they do. they have the cgutuotcm— they do. they do. they have the cgutuotcm ot— they do. they do. they have the equivalent of the— they do. they do. they have the equivalent of the rnli_ 33g 33 they do. they have the equivalent of the rnli in trot-mo— equivalent of the rnli in france. that's- equivalent of the rnli in france. that's true. so why prom-t— france. that's true. so why aren't these migrants when they're setting off , taking on they're setting off, taking on board their equivalent and take them back ? i have seen it them back? i have seen it happen. i have seen a warship come into calais at seven in the

morning just right outside my hotel window and put migrants back onto the calais shore. so it is possible to do it . the it is possible to do it. the irony is if you if you- l 3r3r . the irony is if you if you were a prtuoro— irony is if you if you were a prtuoro toot— irony is if you if you were a private boat owner and you uuourot— private boat owner and you uuourot to — private boat owner and you uuourot to go — private boat owner and you wanted to go up from boulogne tumour— wanted to go up from boulogne tortour out— wanted to go up from boulogne tortour out go— wanted to go up from boulogne harbour and go fishing for the day harbour and go fishing for the toy or— harbour and go fishing for the toy or go— harbour and go fishing for the toy or go out— harbour and go fishing for the day or go out with the family for mo— day or go out with the family for ruo toy.— day or go out with the family for the day, you— day or go out with the family for the day, you have to pass uory— for the day, you have to pass uory rtgorous— for the day, you have to pass very rigorous tests. and if you uouou-r— very rigorous tests. and if you uouou-r-you- very rigorous tests. and if you uouou-r-you gor- very rigorous tests. and if you haven't you get fined haven't got them, you get fined uooutty. — haven't got them, you get fined uooutty. it— haven't got them, you get fined heavily. .if you're— haven't got them, you get fined heavily. if you're in a heavily. yet if you're in a ttugpy— heavily. yet if you're in a dinghyu you— heavily. yet if you're in a dinghyu you-l- heavily. yet if you're in a dinghy, you i mean , heavily. yet if you're in a- dinghy, you-i mean , this dinghy, you meant i mean, this mos— dinghy, you meant i mean, this uos toou— dinghy, you meant i mean, this uos toou pur— dinghy, you meant i mean, this has been put to— dinghy, you meant i mean, this has been put to me and put to potty— has been put to me and put to potty porou— has been put to me and put to pretty patel, the— has been put to me and put to pretty patel, the former home socrorory— pretty patel, the former home socrorory ty— pretty patel, the former home socrorory by u— pretty patel, the former home secretary by a very good former the coastguard— secretary by a very good former the coastguard harbour master oxport— the coastguard harbour master oxport tu— the coastguard harbour master ooporr tu tour— the coastguard harbour master expert in kent . _ the coastguard harbour master expert in kent . r3; expert in kent. he wrote to me i passed the letter to priti patel. he said if they had to follow their own very strict maritime rules on the migrant boats, not one migrant boat would be allowed to set off stricter rules than we have. final, final thoughts. so you tuouu— final, final thoughts. so you tuouu. mo— final, final thoughts. so you know, the prime— final, final thoughts. so you know, the prime minister's made big know, the prime minister's made ttg ptotgos— know, the prime minister's made ttg ptotgos out— know, the prime minister's made big pledges and promises. erg

suotto— big pledges and promises. erg suella braverman, the new home socrotory— suella braverman, the new home socrorory. sorry.— suella braverman, the new home secretary. sorry, this isn't going— secretary. sorry, this isn't gotug ro— secretary. sorry, this isn't gotug to stop.— secretary. sorry, this isn't going to stop. is it? 3 going to stop. is it? i'm afraid it going to stop. is it? i'm afraid tr tum-t.— going to stop. is it? i'm afraid it isn't. and what is so terribly concerning is the security we have no idea who is coming in. i am this program before, said the rogues and vagabonds. i was being incredibly polite. we are talking about potential terrorists and we are in lithuania. when the migrants coming from belarus , they found coming from belarus, they found o.5% coming from belarus, they found 0.5% were a direct hinckley unked 0.5% were a direct hinckley linked to isis. now why should it be any different with us? what it would mean 750 people pro—rata out of the 143,000. we are we are harbouring. so we're making a terrible— 5"r3; 5t3; 3 r: so we're making a terrible mistake. 3r53; 53r3; 3 r: so we're making a terrible mistake. keep up mo— making a terrible mistake. keep up ruo goot— making a terrible mistake. keep up the good work.— making a terrible mistake. keep up the good work. thank you. comtug— up the good work. thank you. comtug ou— up the good work. thank you. comtug ou ct— up the good work. thank you. coming on gb news again. now the uuuoro— coming on gb news again. now the uuuoro tuo— coming on gb news again. now the what? the farage_ coming on gb news again. now the what? the farage moment. oh, i touo— what? the farage moment. oh, i touo ruts— what? the farage moment. oh, i touo ruts .— what? the farage moment. oh, i touo ruts . ou— what? the farage moment. oh, i love this . oh, you— what? the farage moment. oh, i love this . oh, you see the bbc? love this. oh, you see the bbc? sout— love this. oh, you see the bbc? sout-o— love this. oh, you see the bbc? sout-o youug— love this. oh, you see the bbc? send a young reporter send along a young reporter cottot— send along a young reporter carrot—ro- called james clayton to tutorutouu— called james clayton to interview musk because called james clayton to— interview-musk because musk interview elon musk because musk had interview elon musk because musk uot scutt— interview elon musk because musk uot sott tutt— interview elon musk because musk had said that twitter would be tottuot— had said that twitter would be tottuot os— had said that twitter would be defined as being— had said that twitter would be defined as being government tuutot— defined as being government

funded hereafter . the reporter funded hereafter. the reporter sott— funded hereafter. the reporter sott ro— funded hereafter. the reporter said to musk,— funded hereafter. the reporter said to musk, there's too much moro— said to musk, there's too much too spoocu— said to musk, there's too much too spoocu .— said to musk, there's too much hate speech . now.— said to musk, there's too much hate speech . now. appearing on hate speech. now. appearing on tuutrror-s— hate speech. now. appearing on twitter's platform _ hate speech. now. appearing on twitter's platform . um, this is twitter's platform. um, this is rumor— twitter's platform. um, this is uuuor trou— twitter's platform. um, this is what elon musk— twitter's platform. um, this is what elon musk had to say. so toot— what elon musk had to say. so toot .— what elon musk had to say. so toot . poopto— what elon musk had to say. so look , people will— what elon musk had to say. so look , people will say- what elon musk had to say. so look , people will say all- what elon musk had to say. so look , people will say all sorts look, people will say all sorts of nonsense. i'm literally asking for a single example, and you can't name one, right? and as i've already said, i don't use that feed. but how would you know this is know that? i don't think this is getting you literally getting anywhere. you literally said you experienced more hateful and then hateful content and then couldn't a example. couldn't name a single example. right. said, that's right. and as i said, that's absurd. i haven't i haven't actually at that feed. absurd. i haven't i haven't actu how at that feed. absurd. i haven't i haven't actu how would at that feed. absurd. i haven't i haven't actu how would you hat feed. absurd. i haven't i haven't actu how would you knowed. absurd. i haven't i haven't actu how would you know if. absurd. i haven't i haven't actu how would you know if it's but how would you know if it's hateful content? because i'm saying that's what i saw few saying that's what i saw a few weeks ago. i can't give you an exact example. on. we exact example. let's move on. we have only well, i enjoyed have we only well, i enjoyed that, but this is even better. so is musk asking the bbc so this is musk asking the bbc cutout— so this is musk asking the bbc about-pottcy— so this is musk asking the bbc about-policy with- so this is musk asking the bbc about policy with regard about their policy with regard coutu— about their policy with regard covid-masks. _ about their policy with regard covid masks. really is covid and masks. this really is mogtc— covid and masks. this really is mogtc. — covid and masks. this really is mogtc. poop— covid and masks. this really is magic. does the— covid and masks. this really is magic. does the bbc- covid and masks. this really is magic. t 3 magic. does the bbc hold itself at all responsible for misinformation regarding masking and side effects of vaccinations and side effects of vaccinations and not reporting on that at

all? and what about the fact that the bbc was put under pressure by the british government to change its editorial policy? are you aware of that ? this is a this is not of that? this is a this is not an interview about the bbc. oh, you thought it wasn't . i see. you thought it wasn't. i see. now why you've done twitter spaces . i am now why you've done twitter spaces. i am not a representative of the bbc's editorial policy. i want to make that . let's talk about that clear. let's talk about something dougie beattie . something else. dougie beattie. all let's let's all right. let's let's let's talk let's talk about talk about let's talk about something else. you weren't expecting one story. expecting that one of the story. don't mess with elon musk and tour—uory- don't mess with elon musk and tour—uory tuutor| don't send along a very junior roportor— don't send along a very junior reporter because— don't send along a very junior reporter because he will otsoturoty— reporter because he will absolutely mincemeat reporter because he will absolutely-mincemeat you reporter because he will abtindeed'-mincemeat you reporter because he will abtindeed he.mincemeat you reporter because he will abtindeed he did.nincemeat you reporter because he will abtindeed he did. now,meat you reporter because he will abtindeed he did. now, as at you as indeed he did. now, as cooot— as indeed he did. now, as covered here— as indeed he did. now, as covered here before for the toutou— covered here before for the london boroughs of harrow, uttttugtou.— london boroughs of harrow, hillingdon, bromley, bexley and surroy— hillingdon, bromley, bexley and surroy couury— hillingdon, bromley, bexley and surrey county council as well . i surrey county council as well. i muo— surrey county council as well. i uouo toou— surrey county council as well. i have been attempting to take a togot— have been attempting to take a togot ocrtou— have been attempting to take a togot ocrtou. o— have been attempting to take a legal action, a judicial review ogotusr— legal action, a judicial review ogotusr sottg— legal action, a judicial review against sadiq khan's decision to oxtout— against sadiq khan's decision to oxrout mo— against sadiq khan's decision to extend the ulez— against sadiq khan's decision to extend the ulez zone right out to ruo — extend the ulez zone right out to ruo ttmtrs— extend the ulez zone right out to the limits of— extend the ulez zone right out to the limits of greater london . aut— to the limits of greater london . aut t-m— to the limits of greater london . and i'm joined— to the limits of greater london . and i'm joined today by colin smtru— . and i'm joined today by colin smtru mo— . and i'm joined today by colin smith, the leader— . and i'm joined today by colin smith, the leader of bromley couuctt.— smith, the leader of bromley

couuctt. out— smith, the leader of bromley council, and i— smith, the leader of bromley council, and i think we may have a council, and i think we may have t ttrrto— council, and i think we may have t ttrrto tott— council, and i think we may have t ttrrto ttr ot— council, and i think we may have a little bit of progress. we muo— a little bit of progress. we uouo. utgot.— a little bit of progress. we have, nigel, very, very good news indeed. _ have, nigel, very, very good news indeed. 3g news indeed. the judge who's reviewed the case has agreed that two of the points we've raised are substantive and that he wants to take a closer look at them. and he has granted us a tuttctot— at them. and he has granted us a judicial review— at them. and he has granted us a judicial review which— and he has granted us a judicial review which will go tomort— judicial review which will go tomort ro— judicial review which will go forward to be— judicial review which will go forward to be heard, hopefully in forward to be heard, hopefully m yuty. — forward to be heard, hopefully m guy so— forward to be heard, hopefully tu yuty. so goot— forward to be heard, hopefully in july. so good news . so 29th in july. so good news. so 29th of in july. so good news. so 29th or august— in july. so good news. so 29th ot august ts— in july. so good news. so 29th of august is when— in july. so good news. so 29th of august is when this change is tuo— of august is when this change is tuo to— of august is when this change is tuo to como— of august is when this change is due to come in. _ of august is when this change is due to come in. 3g l due to come in. something like 700,000 vehicles on the edges of greater london that would not be compliant . right. and greater london that would not be compliant. right. and a greater london that would not be compliant . right. and a judicial compliant. right. and a judicial review basically assesses whether the law gives khan and tfl the power to go above your head as the elected leader of bromley council. is that really the nub of what this is about? yeah, absolutely. nigel. the nub of yeah, absolutely. nigel. the nub ot tuts— yeah, absolutely. nigel. the nub ot tuts ts— yeah, absolutely. nigel. the nub ot tuts ts .— yeah, absolutely. nigel. the nub ot tuts ts . ts— yeah, absolutely. nigel. the nub of this is , is the— yeah, absolutely. nigel. the nub of this is , is the mayor- of this is, is the mayor tottouos— of this is, is the mayor believes he- of this is, is the mayor believes he has the power to tustott— believes he has the power to tustott uts— believes he has the power to install his ulez— believes he has the power to install his ulez across the outtro— install his ulez across the entire other— install his ulez across the entire other 32— install his ulez across the entire other 32 boroughs, effectively _ entire other 32 boroughs, effectively out- entire other 32 boroughs, effectively out to the m25 . we

effectively out to the m25. we tottouo— effectively out to the m25. we believe that _ effectively out to the m25. we believe that he's— effectively out to the m25. we believe that he's exceeded his pouuors— believe that he's exceeded his pouuor uutor— believe that he's exceeded his powers under the— believe that he's exceeded his powers under the 1999 act. we urso— powers under the 1999 act. we otso tottouo— powers under the 1999 act. we also believe that— powers under the 1999 act. we also believe that he hasn't cousuttot— also believe that he hasn't consulted around the perimeter in consulted around the perimeter tu torms— consulted around the perimeter tu torms ot— consulted around the perimeter in terms of the— consulted around the perimeter in terms of the scheme for mottug— in terms of the scheme for mottug goot— in terms of the scheme for making good repair, repairing , making good repair, repairing, sorry.— making good repair, repairing, sorry. roptoctug— making good repair, repairing, sorry, replacing non—compliant uoutctos— sorry, replacing non—compliant uoutctos tu— sorry, replacing non—compliant vehicles in places— sorry, replacing non—compliant vehicles in places like kent and surroy— vehicles in places like kent and surroy .— vehicles in places like kent and surroy . so— vehicles in places like kent and surroy . so yor— vehicles in places like kent and surrey . so yet today, great news surrey. so yet today, great news . tuo-ro— surrey. so yet today, great news . tuo-ro rootty— surrey. so yet today, great news . we're really encouraged now, otutousty— . we're really encouraged now, otutousty .— . we're really encouraged now, otutousty . uo— . we're really encouraged now, obviously , we need to hone our obviously, we need to hone our orgumouts— obviously, we need to hone our orgumouts to— obviously, we need to hone our arguments to ensure that we prosout— arguments to ensure that we prosout tuom— arguments to ensure that we present them as— arguments to ensure that we present them as well as possible to tuo— present them as well as possible to tho tutgo. — present them as well as possible to the judge. you're— present them as well as possible to the judge. 43. 3r3; to the judge. you're not a lawyer, colin smith, but do you actually sincerely albie and you've obviously taken legal advice on all of this, otherwise you wouldn't be doing it. do you genuinely, in your heart of hearts, believe there's a chance you this case? yes, we you can win this case? yes, we do. we obviously— you can win this case? yes, we do. we obviously hope- rt.53 3 t“ yes, we do. we obviously hope so. the judge— do. we obviously hope so. the tutgo tour.— do. we obviously hope so. the tutgo tour. os— do. we obviously hope so. the tutgo tour. as you— do. we obviously hope so. the judge law, as you say, i'm no oxport— judge law, as you say, i'm no ooport. roy— judge law, as you say, i'm no expert. my fellow— judge law, as you say, i'm no expert. my fellow leaders are no oxports. — expert. my fellow leaders are no ooports. out— expert. my fellow leaders are no ooports. out uro— expert. my fellow leaders are no experts. but we have hired casey otutco— experts. but we have hired casey otutco .— experts. but we have hired casey otutco . top— experts. but we have hired casey advice , top casey— experts. but we have hired casey advice , top casey advice. he advice, top casey advice. he otutsos— advice, top casey advice. he otutsos us— advice, top casey advice. he advises us that— advice, top casey advice. he advises us that we've got a case

out— advises us that we've got a case out tt-s— advises us that we've got a case out to o— advises us that we've got a case and it's a really— advises us that we've got a case and it's a really viable case you— and it's a really viable case with prospects.— and it's a really viable case with prospects. so we fight and we with prospects. so we fight and uuo ttgut— with prospects. so we fight and uuo tour to— with prospects. so we fight and we fight to win— with prospects. so we fight and we fight to win the mayor's otttco— we fight to win the mayor's office have _ we fight to win the mayor's office have responded to this ttrst— office have responded to this ttrst togot— office have responded to this first legal hurdle being cleared and first legal hurdle being cleared out tuoy— first legal hurdle being cleared and they they're— first legal hurdle being cleared and they they're not backing touuu— and they they're not backing touu ouo— and they they're not backing down one little— and they they're not backing down one little inch. 3: down one little inch. indeed, troy— down one little inch. indeed, they say— down one little inch. indeed, they say this is all about saving lives . indeed, they say saving lives. indeed, they say that up to 4000 people a year are dying because of traffic fumes in london . and that fumes in london. and that basically colin smith, you don't really give a about the health of people in the capital. well, it's palpable nonsense- of people in the capital. well, it's palpable nonsense ,- 3 rt.5:r well, it's palpable nonsense , isn't it's palpable nonsense, isn't it? it's palpable nonsense, isn't tto tuo-uo— it's palpable nonsense, isn't it? we've established already tutt— it? we've established already tuot tr— it? we've established already that it doesn't— it? we've established already that it doesn't cause 4000 tootts— that it doesn't cause 4000 tootus. uts— that it doesn't cause 4000 deaths. his use— that it doesn't cause 4000 deaths. his use of the figures is deaths. his use of the figures ts troutty— deaths. his use of the figures is frankly flaky— deaths. his use of the figures is frankly flaky .— deaths. his use of the figures is frankly flaky . we bromley has is frankly flaky. we bromley has an is frankly flaky. we bromley has ou ottorty— is frankly flaky. we bromley has an elderly population which is why— an elderly population which is uuuy o— an elderly population which is uuuy t or— an elderly population which is why u or ot— an elderly population which is why a lot of people die in oomtoy— why a lot of people die in bromley compared to other ptocos— bromley compared to other ptocos uo— bromley compared to other places, he hasn't taken account of places, he hasn't taken account ot tuo— places, he hasn't taken account ot tuo oct— places, he hasn't taken account of the fact that— places, he hasn't taken account of the fact that bromley has the ctoouost— of the fact that bromley has the ctoouost ot— of the fact that bromley has the cleanest air in— of the fact that bromley has the cleanest air in london apart trom— cleanest air in london apart from havering— cleanest air in london apart from havering marginally behind. he from havering marginally behind. to uosu-t— from havering marginally behind. he hasn't taken— from havering marginally behind. he hasn't taken account of the uumto— he hasn't taken account of the uumto ot— he hasn't taken account of the number of care— he hasn't taken account of the number of care homes in boroughs

. att— number of care homes in boroughs . att tu— number of care homes in boroughs . att tu ott— number of care homes in boroughs .att tu gr, uo— number of care homes in boroughs . all in all, he hasn't— number of care homes in boroughs . all in all, he hasn't even at...— . all in all, he hasn't even taken account— . all in all, he hasn't even taken account of- . all in all, he hasn't even taken account of his own advice, uuutcu— taken account of his own advice, uutcu torts— taken account of his own advice, which tells him _ taken account of his own advice, which tells him even if he tustotts— which tells him even if he installs this— which tells him even if he installs this scheme, it will moto— installs this scheme, it will make virtually— installs this scheme, it will make virtually zero difference to tuo — make virtually zero difference to tho guottty— make virtually zero difference to the quality of— make virtually zero difference to the quality of air in outer toutou— to the quality of air in outer london. which— to the quality of air in outer london. which is— to the quality of air in outer london. which is why the four torougus— london. which is why the four porougus ptus— london. which is why the four boroughs plus surrey are going to tour— boroughs plus surrey are going to tour tuts— boroughs plus surrey are going to fight this as— boroughs plus surrey are going to fight this as hard as we can. all to fight this as hard as we can. out tuo— to fight this as hard as we can. out tuo uuoy. — to fight this as hard as we can. all the way. tough- to fight this as hard as we can. all the way. 5.33 all the way. tough one for you. if khan was to win and these cameras were installed and one of the objections i'm getting isn't just that it'll cost £12, 50 for non—compliant cars or a nurse on night shift going over and back either side of midnight, £25, quite a strong feeling that it's a growth of the surveillance state, that it's all going a little bit too far and people talking very openly about direct action and we've seen direct action already against some of the early kim rye was that have been installed. you know, some putting cardboard boxes over them, others taking more extreme action. what would you say to those people who , if we get to those people who, if we get to the point where on the outskirts

of bromley borough, these cameras are installed and active from the 29th of august, what should they do? nigel what i would say as an elected democrat is i cannot condone violence to the cameras. damage to the cameras. mr. khan- t damage to the cameras. mr. khan has been uuruot— cameras. mr. khan has been warned repeatedly that a lot of poopto— warned repeatedly that a lot of poopto uro— warned repeatedly that a lot of people are frightened, a lot of poopto— people are frightened, a lot of poopto tro— people are frightened, a lot of people are upset.— people are frightened, a lot of people are upset. they're angry about— people are upset. they're angry about totug— people are upset. they're angry about being ignored. their angry tocouso— about being ignored. their angry because their— about being ignored. their angry because their jobs— about being ignored. their angry because their jobs , their care because their jobs, their care uotuuorts— because their jobs, their care uotuuorts .— because their jobs, their care networks , their— because their jobs, their care networks , their very livelihoods networks, their very livelihoods are networks, their very livelihoods ot— networks, their very livelihoods or rtst. — networks, their very livelihoods are at risk. and— networks, their very livelihoods are at risk. and unfortunately, sootug— are at risk. and unfortunately, we're seeing that— are at risk. and unfortunately, we're seeing that manifest ttsott— we're seeing that manifest ttsott ou— we're seeing that manifest itself on the— we're seeing that manifest itself on the streets. so no one uuouts— itself on the streets. so no one uuouts to— itself on the streets. so no one uuouts to soo— itself on the streets. so no one wants to see that— itself on the streets. so no one wants to see that .— itself on the streets. so no one wants to see that . and it's yet wants to see that. and it's yet ouotuor— wants to see that. and it's yet another reason _ wants to see that. and it's yet another reason why we would urge the another reason why we would urge tuo mayor— another reason why we would urge tuo ttoyor ouou— another reason why we would urge the mayor even at— another reason why we would urge the mayor even at this late stogo— the mayor even at this late stogo. to— the mayor even at this late stogo. to rust— the mayor even at this late stage, to just take a look at tuo— stage, to just take a look at tuo tocts— stage, to just take a look at the facts that— stage, to just take a look at the facts that this is a money rotstug— the facts that this is a money rotstug cm— the facts that this is a money raising scam in— the facts that this is a money raising scam in preparation for the introducing— raising scam in preparation for the introducing a— raising scam in preparation for the introducing a road price ctorgtug— the introducing a road price charging. absolutely and he uoots— charging. absolutely and he uoots to— charging. absolutely and he needs to stop.— charging. absolutely and he needs to stop. absolutely i ouoot— needs to stop. absolutely i talked about— needs to stop. absolutely i talked about that- needs to stop. absolutely i talked about that last- needs to stop. absolutely i talked about that last night. that's what they all really want to do. colin smith, thank you very much indeed. and well done.

on getting over this first hurdle. now saturday, hurdle. now on saturday, i'm going aintree for the going to be at aintree for the grand national. i wait. grand national. i can't wait. joining a moment is joining me in a moment is somebody who is an animal rising spokesman who wants to ruin my day. we'll have a debate .

it's been going since the late 1830. and 40 horses, a cavalry charge, head towards the first fence and they run when it's nearly four and a half miles. i'm guessing after all the rain this week, the going will be pretty heavy. it'll be pretty gruelling for all involved . but gruelling for all involved. but it is a massive annual global spectacle. it is the grand national. it'll be watched by 500 million people around the world. i haven't been for years . i'm going this saturday. i'm very , very excited about it, i very, very excited about it, i must say. but a story broke in

the mail on sunday a couple of weeks ago that there were attempts to disrupt it. people who are, i think, modern day puritans. that's all i can imagine they are because they simply don't like the fact that tens of thousands of us are going to have a very, very good day watch these amazing day and watch these amazing horses these horses are horses, these horses who are looked after in a way that i doubt any other animals on earth are. well, i'm joined by nathan mcgovern, the animal rising spokesperson . i've not heard of spokesperson. i've not heard of animal rising. is this a new outfit? so, yeah, on monday we rotouuctot— outfit? so, yeah, on monday we relaunched. now,— .7’ so, yeah, on monday we relaunched. now, previously i spoto— relaunched. now, previously i spoto to— relaunched. now, previously i spoto to you— relaunched. now, previously i spoto to you os— relaunched. now, previously i spoke to you as a— relaunched. now, previously i spoke to you as a spokesperson for spoke to you as a spokesperson tor autmot— spoke to you as a spokesperson for animal rebellion . and this for animal rebellion. and this ttoutoy— for animal rebellion. and this ttoutoy tutt— for animal rebellion. and this monday that was— for animal rebellion. and this monday that was veganism rising. tutt— monday that was veganism rising. monogamou— monday that was veganism rising. that-veganism.-spoke- that was veganism. we spoke about it was. so about before. yes, it was. so you it would be clear you think it would be clear about this? you think we shouldn't eat meat or fish or dnnk shouldn't eat meat or fish or drink milk and nor should we go to the grand national. well, what i think we really- t: \r well, what i think we really need to do, what i think we really need to to. ooot.— what i think we really need to to. utgot. ts— what i think we really need to do, nigel, is to— what i think we really need to do, nigel, is to be— what i think we really need to do, nigel, is to be looking at ways— do, nigel, is to be looking at ways ot— do, nigel, is to be looking at uuoys or toutug— do, nigel, is to be looking at ways of loving animals that tour— ways of loving animals that tout-mom.- ways of loving animals that don't them. actually don't harm them. i'm actually rootty—you- don't harm them. i'm actually rootty—you soyl

really pleased that you say tuoso— really pleased that you say these horses— really pleased that you say these horses are amazing because tuoy— these horses are amazing because tuoy rootty— these horses are amazing because tuoy rootty — these horses are amazing because they really are. but— these horses are amazing because they really are. but the fact of they really are. but the fact of tuo-tutt— they really are. but the fact of the -that horse - they really are. but the fact of the that horse dies the matter is that horse dies ouory—roctugl the matter is that horse dies ouory—roctug tui every other day in racing in tuts— every other day in racing in tuts couutry. — every other day in racing in this country. -you- every other day in racing in this country. you know, this country. and, you know, i tutut— this country. and, you know, i tutut mots— this country. and, you know, i think that's an— this country. and, you know, i think that's an acceptable. ottom— think that's an acceptable. uumor .— think that's an acceptable. uumor . tr— think that's an acceptable. nathan , if it— think that's an acceptable. nathan , if it wasn't- think that's an acceptable. nathan , if it wasn't for- think that's an acceptable. nathan , if it wasn't for horse nathan, if it wasn't for horse racing , these horses wouldn't racing, these horses wouldn't exist . they wouldn't actually be exist. they wouldn't actually be there . they are bred to race. there. they are bred to race. and they come, as you know, from bloodlines, and they love it . bloodlines, and they love it. they absolutely love it . they they absolutely love it. they are fed the best. they've got the best vets, the best training. they have amazing lives. they love what they do. and yes , you're right, not so and yes, you're right, not so much in flat racing, but in jump racing. 1 or 2 do get put down andifs racing. 1 or 2 do get put down and it's unpleasant and it's horrible and it's sad. but without racing, they wouldn't even be alive. so nigel, what i think you raise there is a really important point and i think it's actually quite sad that, you know, a lot of people can't imagine these animals existing apart from our use for them. you know, for horse roctug.— them. you know, for horse racing, whether— you know, for horse racing, whether we look at our toot— racing, whether we look at our toot tutustry— racing, whether we look at our food industry, a— racing, whether we look at our food industry, a lot of people cout— food industry, a lot of people can't imagine,— food industry, a lot of people can't imagine, know, pigs or can't imagine, you know, pigs or cows-stoop.— can't imagine, you know, pigs or couuslsuoop. you— can't imagine, you know, pigs or cows sheep, you know, in cows or sheep, you know, in

uuruot— cows or sheep, you know, in. uuruot—our natural habitats apart from our usoltuom— natural habitats apart from our usoltuom tor— natural habitats apart from our use .them for food - natural habitats apart from our use them for food and what use for them for food and what we use for them for food and what uuo uoot— use for them for food and what we need really— use for them for food and what we need really need to do is ro—ououoott— we need really need to do is re—evaluate. -why- we need really need to do is. re—evaluate.-why-is. re—evaluate. kate why that is. uou— re—evaluate. kate why that is. you ouou.— re—evaluate. kate why that is. you know,-never- re—evaluate. kate why that is. you know, never seen a wild you know, i've never seen a wild uorso— you know, i've never seen a wild torso-moos— you know, i've never seen a wild horse.-there'slfew- you know, i've never seen a wild horse. there's few down horse. i know there's a few down dartmoor— horse. i know there's a few down dartmoor-uuo— horse. i know there's a few down dartmoor-way and- horse. i know there's a few down dartmoor way and it will dartmoor exmoor way and it will be dartmoor exmoor way and it will to toutosttc— dartmoor exmoor way and it will be fantastic if— dartmoor exmoor way and it will be fantastic if.had- dartmoor exmoor way and it will be fantastic if had wild be fantastic if we had wild uosos— be fantastic if we had wild horses .that's- be fantastic if we had wild horses that's we can enjoy. horses and that's we can enjoy. tutt— horses and that's we can enjoy. mot—out- horses and that's we can enjoy. mot—out uuo- horses and that's we can enjoy. that—and we don't that may be true and we don't uuuo— that may be true and we don't uouolsoo— that may be true and we don't have i see them _ that may be true and we don't have .see them die - that may be true and we don't have see them die on race have to see them die on race tracts.— have to see them die on race trucks. uou— have to see them die on race tracks. you know,— have to see them die on race tracks. you know, you haven't toou— tracks. you know, you haven't toou ot— tracks. you know, you haven't toou or tuo— tracks. you know, you haven't been at the national for a few yus— been at the national for a few yours-t— been at the national for a few years,-i assume- been at the national for a few years, i assume watched years, but i assume you watched it years, but i assume you watched tt-voum— years, but i assume you watched tt-vouu. tuo- years, but i assume you watched it -yeah, i've seen - years, but i assume you watched it-yeah, i've seen it. it in 2019. yeah, i've seen it. and i've seen it. you know, you tuo— and i've seen it. you know, you tuo uorso— and i've seen it. you know, you saw the horse go— and i've seen it. you know, you saw the horse go over- ' 3 . you know, you saw the horse go over the first uurtto— saw the horse go over the first uurtto uut— saw the horse go over the first hurdle and you— saw the horse go over the first hurdle and you saw how it fell uut— hurdle and you saw how it fell uut proto— hurdle and you saw how it fell and broke its— hurdle and you saw how it fell and broke its neck. you saw it uurttutug— and broke its neck. you saw it urttutug tu— and broke its neck. you saw it writhing in pain— and broke its neck. you saw it writhing in pain on the floor. aut— writhing in pain on the floor. andlknow— writhing in pain on the floor. andiknowican_ writhing in pain on the floor. and know can see in your and i know i can see in your oyos— and i know i can see in your oyos-uou— and i know i can see in your eyes-now that- and i know i can see in your. eyes-now that-hated eyes right now that you hated sootug— eyes right now that you hated sootug-tou-t- eyes right now that you hated seeing-don't like- eyes right now that you hated seeing don't like it, seeing that we don't like it, put— seeing that we don't like it, put uuo— seeing that we don't like it, put uuo ouou— seeing that we don't like it, but we know there the risks of the but we know there the risks of tuo sport— but we know there the risks of tho sport uut — but we know there the risks of the sport and equally, of course,.the- the sport and equally, of course, the jockeys the sport and equally, of course,.the jockeys well, course, for the jockeys as well, muuy— course, for the jockeys as well, muuy ot— course, for the jockeys as well, muuy or uuuom — course, for the jockeys as well, many of whom get— course, for the jockeys as well, many of whom get very, very sortousty— many of whom get very, very seriously—here's. many of whom get very, very. seriously—here's the seriously hurt. but here's the point. mcgovern, you and seriously hurt. but here's the phave mcgovern, you and seriously hurt. but here's the phave different'icgovern, you and seriously hurt. but here's the phave different view em, you and seriously hurt. but here's the phave different view on , you and seriously hurt. but here's the phave different view on this. and i have different view on this. all right. i want to go for a good day. your mob want to come along disrupt the day. you along and disrupt the day. you don't you don't even don't you know, you don't even want to a bacon sandwich want me to have a bacon sandwich when arrive at the track. you when i arrive at the track. you are a modern day cromwellian puritan. you

puritan. what gives you the right? you right right? what gives you the right to the way you think? the to impose the way you think? the world should be on me? what moral authority do you have to do this? well, nigel, there's ptouty— do this? well, nigel, there's ptouty-uuuys- do this? well, nigel, there's- ptouty-uuuys-your plenty of fun ways to spend your suturtuy— plenty of fun ways to spend your saturday_ horses. . plenty of fun ways to spend your saturday—horses. i saturday not watching horses. not-totte- saturday not watching horses. not-toctto-tl not for you to decide what i want to for a picnic. go for want to go for a picnic. go for a walk. you might— want to go for a picnic. go for a walk. you might see- want to go for a picnic. go for a walk. you might see a- 93» rt.3 rt. go for a walk. you might see a few uutmuts— a walk. you might see a few uutmuts tu— a walk. you might see a few animals in nature, and they uuouttu-t— animals in nature, and they uuouttu-t to— animals in nature, and they wouldn't be ridden to death on the wouldn't be ridden to death on tuo truck. — wouldn't be ridden to death on the track. well,— wouldn't be ridden to death on the track. well, this- wouldn't be ridden to death on the track. voice: t the track. well, this is like, you know, cromwell said, sit at home bible. you are home and read the bible. you are making a moral judgement that you know than all the you know better than all the rest it, and want to rest of it, and you want to impose upon us through impose that upon us through anarchistic action. that is the truth it. well, what i think truth of it. well, what i think is truth of it. well, what i think ts tmportuut— truth of it. well, what i think is important,-is- truth of it. well, what i thinkj is important,-is that is important, the point is that the is important, the point is that tuo-ot— is important, the point is that tuo-or uoro- is important, the point is that the-of york, you. the university of york, you ouou.— the university of york, you ouou-ous— the university of york, you know, was study carried out know, this was study carried out a know, this was study carried out u-yus— know, this was study carried out u-yus tuck.- know, this was study carried out a years back. they've a couple of years back. they've uctuutty— a couple of years back. they've actually recognised that of actually recognised that 80% of uutor—uo- under 40 seconds have no tutorost— under 40 seconds have no interest-to- under 40 seconds have no interest-to the. under 40 seconds have no. interest-to the races interest in going to the races for-reasons. and- interest in going to the races for reasons. and the for ethical reasons. and the uust— for ethical reasons. and the uust mutortty— for ethical reasons. and the vast majority people that vast majority of the people that do vast majority of the people that to go — vast majority of the people that to go to — vast majority of the people that to go to tuo — vast majority of the people that do go to the races— vast majority of the people that do go to the races go for the goot— do go to the races go for the goot tuy— do go to the races go for the goot tuy out.— do go to the races go for the good day out. you know, before i was vegan, before,— good day out. you know, before i was vegan, before, you know, my oyos— was vegan, before, you know, my oyos-ot— was vegan, before, you know, my oyos-ot-to- was vegan, before, you know, my oyos-ot-to u- was vegan, before, you know, my oyos-ot-to u tot| eyes were kind of open to a lot of eyes were kind of open to a lot ot-t— eyes were kind of open to a lot out uyour— eyes were kind of open to a lot out uout to— eyes were kind of open to a lot of-i went to the- eyes were kind of open to a lot of i went to the races of this. i went to the races mysott. — of this. i went to the races mysott. t— of this. i went to the races myself. i went— of this. i went to the races myself. i went up in perth. what uyour— myself. i went up in perth. what your-uut— myself. i went up in perth. what uuout-uut u— myself. i went up in perth. what went-had a great- myself. i went up in perth. what went had a great wrong went wrong? i had a great wrong uuttu— went wrong? i had a great wrong uou—uteru— went wrong? i had a great wrong with _well, what- went wrong? i had a great wrong with _well, what i-

with your life. well, what i looked at, i these beautiful looked at, i saw these beautiful animals track and then i animals on the track and then i went away and looked at the stats. the statistics of what a uorso— stats. the statistics of what a uorso ttos— stats. the statistics of what a horse dies every— the statistics of what a horse dies every other day in ructug— horse dies every other day in racing-thinking,- horse dies every other day in racing thinking, you know, racing and thinking, you know, we racing and thinking, you know, uuo—yout- racing and thinking, you know, uuo—uortt tu- racing and thinking, you know, we world in which racing and thinking, you know,- we _world in which we we can have a world in which we upproctuto— we can have a world in which we upproctuto-touo— we can have a world in which we appreciate love these appreciate and we love these uutmuts— appreciate and we love these animals without— appreciate and we love these animals without exploiting to—u— animals without exploiting de—man racing. they'll all be shut. we both— de—man racing. they'll all be shut. we both-it's- de—man racing. they'll all be shut. we both-it's more| shut. we both know it's more compttcutot— shut. we both know it's more complicated-that,- we both know it's more complicated that, nigel. complicated than that, nigel. they— complicated than that, nigel. tuoy uuouttu-t— complicated than that, nigel. they wouldn't even. 3r3;g they wouldn't even. they uouttu-t— they wouldn't even. they wouldn't alive. can wouldn't even be alive. i can test know, what we test that. you know, what we coutt — test that. you know, what we coutt ts— test that. you know, what we could see is we— you know, what we could see is we could see. we court— could see is we could see. we coutt soo— could see is we could see. we could see wild— could see is we could see. we could see wild horses retiring. we could see wild horses retiring. uuo-soo— could see wild horses retiring. uuo-soo tuts— could see wild horses retiring. we see this beautiful we could see this beautiful uutmuts— we could see this beautiful animals _wherel animals in habitats where tuoy-ro— animals in habitats where tuoy-ro uot. — animals in habitats where they're not. il�*lruj�*g they're not. may have a few wild horses the upland parts of horses on the upland parts of our and most of our country. albie and most of the rest of the country to have in, you know, in leafy surrey, to untrained wild horses. to have untrained wild horses. you're but you're talking nonsense. but look, know what? this is gb look, you know what? this is gb news. we're here to debate all sides of argument. you news. we're here to debate all sides up argument. you news. we're here to debate all sides up myirgument. you news. we're here to debate all sides up my saturday, you news. we're here to debate all sides up my saturday, i'm)u news. we're here to debate all sides up my saturday, i'm going mess up my saturday, i'm going to be after you all i can tell you. all right, nathan, thank you. all right, nathan, thank you coming. and there you for coming. and there we are. do. we allow are. that's what we do. we allow people on are. that's what we do. we allow poopto ou tuts— are. that's what we do. we allow people on this-channel- are. that's what we do. we allow people on this-channel is- people on this this channel is gouutuoty— people on this this channel is genuinely about— people on this this channel is genuinely about free, open totuto— genuinely about free, open totuto .— genuinely about free, open debate , hopefully conducted with debate, hopefully conducted with pusstou. — debate, hopefully conducted with pusstou. tut— debate, hopefully conducted with passion, but equally , you know, passion, but equally, you know, coutuctot—

passion, but equally, you know, conducted with— passion, but equally, you know, conducted with a— passion, but equally, you know, conducted with a degree of ctutttty— conducted with a degree of civility, which _ conducted with a degree of civility, which i— conducted with a degree of civility, which i think is very, uory— civility, which i think is very, very important. _ civility, which i think is very, very important. \rr3rrr civility, which i think is very, very important. \rr3rrt very important. now, your barrage, the farage is this idea that you send me in videos and we play the video and i answer it. the producers choose the questions. i'm not told what they are , so let's give it they are, so let's give it a whirl and let's see what stuart has got for me today. hello, nigel. my has got for me today. hello, utgot. rty uumo— has got for me today. hello, nigel. my name is- 93» 3 hello, nigel. my name is stuart 93». 3 hello, nigel. my name is stuart and rgr3». 3 hello, nigel. my name is stuart and i'm trom— nigel. my name is stuart and i'm from nottingham _ nigel. my name is stuart and i'm from nottingham . _ nigel. my name is stuart and i'm from nottingham . 3 from nottingham. i just wanted to ouo— from nottingham. i just wanted to one question to you. how would you solve all the strikes if you were prime minister ? i if you were prime minister? i couldn't hear that. sorry. how would i solve— couldn't hear that. sorry. how would i solve .— couldn't hear that. sorry. how would i solve . what- 3 . sorry. how would i solve . what oh, all the would i solve. what oh, all the strttos— would i solve. what oh, all the strttos .— would i solve. what oh, all the strttos . att— would i solve. what oh, all the strikes . all right.— would i solve. what oh, all the strikes . all right. well, i tell strikes. all right. well, i tell you— strikes. all right. well, i tell you uuuo— strikes. all right. well, i tell you what, stuart, this is a tttttcutt— you what, stuart, this is a difficult one.— you what, stuart, this is a difficult one. but what you cuuuot— difficult one. but what you cuuuot gtuo— difficult one. but what you cannot give in— difficult one. but what you cannot give in to you cannot go— cannot give in to you cannot gtuo tu— cannot give in to you cannot gtuo tu to— cannot give in to you cannot give in to left— cannot give in to you cannot give in to left wing intimidation and bullying of course, living— intimidation and bullying of course, living in inflationary ttmos— course, living in inflationary ttmos. poopto— course, living in inflationary times, people want reasonable pav— times, people want reasonable puy — times, people want reasonable pay increases. but the idea that you— pay increases. but the idea that you como— pay increases. but the idea that you utoug— pay increases. but the idea that you come along and say, we've uut— you come along and say, we've uut uotutug— you come along and say, we've had nothing really— you come along and say, we've had nothing really for the last ten had nothing really for the last tou yus— had nothing really for the last tou yus uuo— had nothing really for the last ten years, we now need 35, as

tuo— ten years, we now need 35, as tuo tuutor— ten years, we now need 35, as the junior doctors— ten years, we now need 35, as the junior doctors are saying, is the junior doctors are saying, ts stmpty— the junior doctors are saying, is simply ludicrous. they may uot— is simply ludicrous. they may uot to— is simply ludicrous. they may uot to potty— is simply ludicrous. they may not be highly paid, but boy , not be highly paid, but boy, tuoy-ro— not be highly paid, but boy, tuoy-ro totug— not be highly paid, but boy, they're doing an apprenticeship . uutor— they're doing an apprenticeship . uttor uuutcu— they're doing an apprenticeship , after which they— they're doing an apprenticeship , after which they will get very utguty— , after which they will get very utguty putt. — , after which they will get very utguty putt. uut— , after which they will get very highly paid. and indeed, many of tuom — highly paid. and indeed, many of tuom uo— highly paid. and indeed, many of tuom ot— highly paid. and indeed, many of them now, of course, are going off them now, of course, are going ott to— them now, of course, are going off to australia _ them now, of course, are going off to australia where they get putt— off to australia where they get putt toutto— off to australia where they get paid double what— off to australia where they get paid double what a doctor gets putt— paid double what a doctor gets putt tu— paid double what a doctor gets putt tu tuts— paid double what a doctor gets paid in this country. let's go to amu— paid in this country. let's go to auuu uut— paid in this country. let's go to anna and see— paid in this country. let's go to anna and see what her barrage de to anna and see what her barrage to turugo— to anna and see what her barrage to turugo ts— to anna and see what her barrage to turugo ts . — to anna and see what her barrage de farage is . hello,— to anna and see what her barrage de farage is . \r rgr3;. mg de farage is. hello, nigel. my name is anna and i've always been interested in why the media don't seem to represent the majority of people anymore . majority of people anymore. people anymore are. anna it's easy. it's people anymore are. anna it's ousy. tt-s tuo— people anymore are. anna it's easy. it's the london- 53g 3»3rr3; 53r3; anna it's easy. it's the london bubble. uos— easy. it's the london bubble. uos tuoy-ro— easy. it's the london bubble. yes they're all— easy. it's the london bubble. yes they're all here within a coupto— yes they're all here within a coupto ot— yes they're all here within a couple of square— yes they're all here within a couple of square miles of where we are , and they— couple of square miles of where we are , and they all go to the we are, and they all go to the same universities— we are, and they all go to the same universities and they all mtx— same universities and they all mtx tu— same universities and they all mtx tu tuo— same universities and they all mix in the same— same universities and they all mix in the same social groups. uouo— mix in the same social groups. uouo ot— mix in the same social groups. uouo ot tuom— mix in the same social groups. none of them seem to have any uotttos— none of them seem to have any uotttos uuy— none of them seem to have any hobbies, any interest at all outstto— hobbies, any interest at all outstto ot— hobbies, any interest at all outside of politics and current uttutrs— outside of politics and current uttutrs .— outside of politics and current uttutrs . uos— outside of politics and current affairs . yes, it's,— outside of politics and current affairs . yes, it's, you know, affairs. yes, it's, you know, tuo— affairs. yes, it's, you know, tuo uoot— affairs. yes, it's, you know, tuo ooot tu— affairs. yes, it's, you know, the week in westminster, the uootouts— the week in westminster, the uuootouts tu— the week in westminster, the weekends in oxfordshire or uuutouor— weekends in oxfordshire or uuuutouor tr— weekends in oxfordshire or whatever it is,— weekends in oxfordshire or whatever it is, they marry each otuor— whatever it is, they marry each other sisters.— whatever it is, they marry each other sisters. it— whatever it is, they marry each

other sisters. it is— whatever it is, they marry each other sisters. it is remarkable . trott— other sisters. it is remarkable . war, tr— other sisters. it is remarkable . war, tt ts— other sisters. it is remarkable . well, it is remarkable how turougu— . well, it is remarkable how through media— . well, it is remarkable how through media politics and tutoot— through media politics and tutoot tuo— through media politics and indeed the civil service , the indeed the civil service, the putttc— indeed the civil service, the public sector,— indeed the civil service, the public sector, remarkable how ctoso— public sector, remarkable how ctoso tuoso— public sector, remarkable how close these people are . and they close these people are. and they rtmorco— close these people are. and they reinforce their— close these people are. and they reinforce their own— close these people are. and they reinforce their own opinions on tutugs— reinforce their own opinions on tutugs tuo— reinforce their own opinions on things like wind— reinforce their own opinions on things like wind farms and net uut— things like wind farms and net uut tuo— things like wind farms and net zero and the benefits of open tortor— zero and the benefits of open border migration— zero and the benefits of open border migration and so much ouso.— border migration and so much otso. tuoy— border migration and so much otso. tuoy uro— border migration and so much else. they are a— border migration and so much else. they are a very, very narrow little _ else. they are a very, very narrow little clique. but yet tuoy— narrow little clique. but yet tuoy uuuo— narrow little clique. but yet they have huge— narrow little clique. but yet they have huge influence turouguout— they have huge influence throughout the media, huge tuttuouco— throughout the media, huge influence throughout what people our— influence throughout what people uour .— influence throughout what people uour . you— influence throughout what people uour . you ouou.— influence throughout what people hear , you know, and it's one of hear, you know, and it's one of tuo— hear, you know, and it's one of tuo ousous— hear, you know, and it's one of the reasons we're— hear, you know, and it's one of the reasons we're here at gb uous— the reasons we're here at gb uous ts— the reasons we're here at gb uous ts to— the reasons we're here at gb news is to make— the reasons we're here at gb news is to make sure we can have a news is to make sure we can have u propor— news is to make sure we can have a proper counter—argument. but as a proper counter—argument. but us t— a proper counter—argument. but us t sutu— a proper counter—argument. but us t sutt. uuttu— a proper counter—argument. but as i said, with nathan, who uuuuts— as i said, with nathan, who uuuts to— as i said, with nathan, who wants to ruin— as i said, with nathan, who wants to ruin my day at the cuuut— wants to ruin my day at the grand national,— wants to ruin my day at the grand national, we'll have pusstouuto— passionate debate. we'll talk utout— passionate debate. we'll talk about everything . nothing is off about everything. nothing is off the about everything. nothing is off tuo tuto— about everything. nothing is off the table, but— about everything. nothing is off the table, but we'll attempt to do the table, but we'll attempt to toluttu— the table, but we'll attempt to do .with civility. _ the table, but we'll attempt to do with civility. well, one do it with civility. well, one uuuo— do it with civility. well, one uuuo ts— do it with civility. well, one man who is known for his ctutttty— man who is known for his ctuttttylot— man who is known for his civility of course , jacob civility is, of course, jacob uoos— civility is, of course, jacob tcoos rtogg— civility is, of course, jacob tcoos rtogg .— civility is, of course, jacob rees mogg . jacob, fascinating rees mogg. jacob, fascinating conversation— rees mogg. jacob, fascinating conversation i— rees mogg. jacob, fascinating conversation i had there with suo— conversation i had there with suo tcout— conversation i had there with suo tcout .— conversation i had there with sue read . there's a french naval

sue read. there's a french naval ossot— sue read. there's a french naval ossot totttug— sue read. there's a french naval vessel telling a— sue read. there's a french naval vessel telling a p&o ferry , get vessel telling a p&o ferry, get out ot— vessel telling a p&o ferry, get out ot tuo— vessel telling a p&o ferry, get out ot tuo uuuy. — vessel telling a p&o ferry, get out of the way. half £1 billion gtutug— out of the way. half £1 billion we're giving them. and they're stttt— we're giving them. and they're still escorted— we're giving them. and they're still escorted them over the cuuuot.— still escorted them over the channel. you're— still escorted them over the channel. you're covering this toutgut. — channel. you're covering this tonight. you're— channel. you're covering this tonight. /r3»- 3rg channel. you're covering this tonight. 3/r3»- 3rg tonight. you're stealing my monologue. this is what i'm going to talking about. i going to be talking about. i can't believe that we're giving them half £1 billion and they are boats from french are taking boats from french waters and escorting into waters and escorting them into uk waters. thought whole uk waters. i thought the whole point them was point of giving them money was that stop them that they would stop them coming. just think this is coming. and i just think this is outrageous. and to your correspondent, is correspondent, what this is about blob, it? about the blob, isn't it? thinking is all fine. thinking that this is all fine. let's lots of money let's give them lots of money and not demand the quid and let's not demand the quid pro quo. that's going to be pro quo. so that's going to be opening up. my program is really going to the boats. well, going to stop the boats. well, it's putting the rg3» 3rg well, it's putting the legislation in the it's putting the legislation in tuo—aut- it's putting the legislation in the _and then. the right place. and then ultimately it's challenging the european human european convention on human rights that that has been the stumbling block for years. and unless we're willing to disagree with them or disapply parts of it , it's with them or disapply parts of it, it's going with them or disapply parts of it , it's going to be with them or disapply parts of it, it's going to be really hard to stop the small boats coming . to stop the small boats coming. i sense it's the next gigantic pottttcut— i sense it's the next gigantic political battle— i sense it's the next gigantic political battle in british pottttcs— political battle in british politics-play- political battle in british politics play out political battle in british- politics-play out over politics that will play out over

the politics that will play out over tuo-tou— politics that will play out over the .few years. _ politics that will play out over the few years. well, the next few years. well, i tumu— the next few years. well, i think there _ the next few years. well, i. think there _that's the next few years. well, i- think there -that's one. think there are two. that's one. out— think there are two. that's one. out tuo— think there are two. that's one. and the other one is making everyone's life miserable by turning lights out. turning our lights out. something you can talk something you think you can talk about often? no, i agree. often. nut,— about often? no, i agree. often. war, uuo-ro— about often? no, i agree. often. well, we're done— about often? no, i agree. often. well, we're done for— , no, i agree. often. well, we're done for time, but we well, we're done for time, but uuo-must— well, we're done for time, but uuo-must-out- well, we're done for time, but we-must-out how. well, we're done for time, but we must out how is we now must find out how is storm — we now must find out how is storm _affecting- we now must find out how is storm affecting us? it's storm noah affecting us? it's even—normal. storm noah affecting us? it's. even—normal april even worse than a normal april souuorsu— even worse than a normal april showers . hello— even worse than a normal april showers . .3r33r3; c133rg showers. hello there. i'm greg dewhurst welcome to your dewhurst and welcome to your latest broadcast from the met office going to office it is gradually going to turn over course of turn calmer over the course of the next few days into the weekend. still some strong weekend. but still some strong winds and heavy rain there over the 24 hours as storm noah the next 24 hours as storm noah slowly eases moves slowly, slowly eases and moves away , another system moves away, another system moves across southern areas on friday, but into the weekend, we but then into the weekend, we should see a ridge of high pressure starting to build, allowing it to get warmer and less windy too. there it less windy, too. so out there it is a windy evening to come. outbreaks of showery rain heavy at times, some snow over the high ground across northern england and scotland. two showers overnight. showers easing overnight. some clearer spells developing staying blustery, though, staying quite blustery, though, allowing temperatures hold up allowing temperatures to hold up above still on the above freezing, but still on the chilly side, 2 or 3 degrees to

start thursday morning and a mixed start. cloudy across the northern half of the uk. showery outbreaks of rain, some sunshine in the south. but as we move through the day, it'll be a case of april showers. sunny spells and some the showers will and some of the showers will be heavy some hail and heavy at times. some hail and thunder blustery , but thunder staying blustery, but the winds not as strong compared to recent days, but a cold feeling day. only highs of around 12 or 13 across the south—east single figures across the north into thursday evening. showers continue, though they tend to lose their intensity and will continue to see some clear spells. cloud thickening, though dunng spells. cloud thickening, though during the early hours across the far southwest as that next weather system approaches under the clear skies, it will turn quite chilly once again to start friday morning. temperatures low, single figures, perhaps a touch of grass, frost for 1 low, single figures, perhaps a touch of grass, frost for1 or low, single figures, perhaps a touch of grass, frost for 1 or 2 as we go through the day on friday. we'll see. southern parts of the uk turning increasingly cloudy. we'll see some showery outbreaks of rain pushing east brighter further north, scotland , northern north, scotland, northern ireland, northern england seeing

north, scotland, northern irrmixture orthern england seeing north, scotland, northern irr mixture ort sunny ngland seeing north, scotland, northern irr mixture ort sunny ngland and ng a mixture of sunny spells and showers. showers not quite as heavy as recent days and temperatures are little higher temperatures are a little higher . but the good news is into the weekend, become weekend, it should become largely temperatures largely dry and the temperatures starting perhaps as starting to rise, perhaps as high 17 come .

you with gb news. in a moment, uoutttuors— you with gb news. in a moment, headliners first,— you with gb news. in a moment, headliners first, let's— 3/r3»- cit \ in a moment, headliners first, let's bring you— headliners first, let's bring you tuo— headliners first, let's bring you the latest— headliners first, let's bring you the latest news headlines . you the latest news headlines. aut— you the latest news headlines. out ou— you the latest news headlines. out ou uts— you the latest news headlines. and on his trip— you the latest news headlines. and on his trip to— you the latest news headlines. and on his trip to county louth as and on his trip to county louth us put— and on his trip to county louth us put ot— and on his trip to county louth us put ot uts— and on his trip to county louth as part of his visit— and on his trip to county louth as part of his visit to the tcoputttc— as part of his visit to the republic of— as part of his visit to the republic of ireland, the us trosttout— republic of ireland, the us president joe— republic of ireland, the us president joe biden has said toutgut— president joe biden has said toutgut tr— president joe biden has said tonight it feels— president joe biden has said tonight it feels like home. mr. ottou-s— tonight it feels like home. mr. ottou-s grout— tonight it feels like home. mr. biden's great grandfather, james rtuuoguu— biden's great grandfather, james rtuuoguu. us— biden's great grandfather, james finnegan, was born in county toutu— finnegan, was born in county toutu uut— finnegan, was born in county louth and earlier— finnegan, was born in county louth and earlier crowds of well—wishers_ louth and earlier crowds of well—wishers braved the rainy uuoutuor— well—wishers braved the rainy weather under— well—wishers braved the rainy weather under umbrellas to watch his weather under umbrellas to watch uts motorcuto— weather under umbrellas to watch his motorcade sweep in. he tourot— his motorcade sweep in. he toured carlingford castle ourttor— toured carlingford castle earlier before _ toured carlingford castle earlier before moving on to

ouututt— earlier before moving on to ouututt .— earlier before moving onto dundalk . and— earlier before moving on to dundalk . and earlier than