soon it's 930. good morning and welcome to the point on gb news with me. andrew pierce and me . with me. andrew pierce and me. dawn neesom her hitman and her. yeah.— dawn neesom her hitman and her. yeah. right.— dawn neesom her hitman and her. yeah, right. coming— dawn neesom her hitman and her. yeah, right. coming up, we have got ome— yeah, right. coming up, we have got very.— yeah, right. coming up, we have got very, very— yeah, right. coming up, we have got some very, very exciting stutt. — got some very, very exciting stuff, haven't— got some very, very exciting stuff, haven't we.7 we got some very, very exciting stuff, haven't we? we have. we tote— stuff, haven't we? we have. we have got— stuff, haven't we? we have. we have got meghan— stuff, haven't we? we have. we have got meghan coming . your have got meghan coming. your heartbroken.— have got meghan coming. your heartbroken. he— have got meghan coming. your heartbroken. he is absolutely toottttoton— heartbroken. he is absolutely heartbroken that meghan isn't going— heartbroken that meghan isn't gotng to— heartbroken that meghan isn't gotng to to— heartbroken that meghan isn't going to be here. that's true. ant— going to be here. that's true. ant too— going to be here. that's true. ant we got— going to be here. that's true. ant too got o— going to be here. that's true. and i've got a really good oxonottvo— and i've got a really good exclusive with— and i've got a really good exclusive with a conversation i not— exclusive with a conversation i not nttn— exclusive with a conversation i once had with the— exclusive with a conversation i once had with the late diana otont— once had with the late diana otont nnot— once had with the late diana about what would make all about what she would make of all of about what she would make of all ot tnto. — about what she would make of all ot tnto. -no— about what she would make of all of this. me exclusively of this. she told me exclusively .|tntnt— of this. she told me exclusively .|tntnt sno— of this. she told me exclusively ,ithink she could— of this. she told me exclusively , think she could predict , i think she could predict a bit , i think she could predict a tttltnto— , i think she could predict a bit-this coming. - , i think she could predict a bit this coming. to be honest bit of this coming. to be honest nttn— bit of this coming. to be honest with-interesting. - bit of this coming. to be honest with interesting. now, joe with you. interesting. now, joe ntton— with you. interesting. now, joe ntton non— with you. interesting. now, joe

biden, he's going— with you. interesting. now, joe biden, he's going spend a bit biden, he's going to spend a bit ttno— biden, he's going to spend a bit ttno tn— biden, he's going to spend a bit more time in ireland he did more time in ireland than he did in more time in ireland than he did tn tonnonn— more time in ireland than he did in northern ireland. ti; git g in northern ireland. he's going to-tno— in northern ireland. he's going to the irish parliament to talk to the irish parliament today. keeping eye today. we'll be keeping an eye out more gaffes because out for any more gaffes because there was a real shocker yesterday got rugby yesterday when he got his rugby team. badly that was team. oh, my god. badly that was used. was not great, used. yeah, that was not great, ttt— used. yeah, that was not great, was it? meanwhile— a: yeah, that was not great, was it? meanwhile up in soottont.— was it? meanwhile up in scotland, first- was it? meanwhile up in scotland, first minister humza vonoot— scotland, first minister humza yousaf.preparing_ yousaf is preparing for a constitutional- yousaf is preparing for a constitutional showdown the constitutional showdown with the uk constitutional showdown with the un —tttt- constitutional showdown with the un —tttt to l uk government over his bill to otton— uk government over his bill to allow—actually- uk government over his bill to allow—actually the allow 16 year olds actually the tos— allow 16 year olds actually the tot to — allow 16 year olds actually the tot to onongo— allow 16 year olds actually the 15.5 to change their gender. ti; 15.5 to change their gender. he stontt— 15.5 to change their gender. he stontt nove— 15.5 to change their gender. he should have dumped- 15.5 to change their gender. he should have dumped it. it just shows he really is the nicola sturgeon continuity and we've got exclusive got a really important exclusive on a rebellion in the labour party keir starmer over party against keir starmer over his flopping on transgender his flip flopping on transgender rights . but his flip flopping on transgender rights. but most his flip flopping on transgender rights . but most importantly, rights. but most importantly, it's about what you think. so let us know what you so let us know what you think about all let us know what you think about at out— let us know what you think about at totttng— let us know what you think about all our talking points today by gotttng— all our talking points today by gotttng tn— all our talking points today by getting in touch— all our talking points today by getting in touch at gb views at gb getting in touch at gb views at on tons— getting in touch at gb views at on news at. — getting in touch at gb views at gb news .uk. but— getting in touch at gb views at gb news .uk. but first, here is your— gb news .uk. but first, here is your notntng— gb news .uk. but first, here is your morning news with bethany ttooy— your morning news with bethany

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well finally, finally, we're only talking about it. yesterday they had the only talking about it. - yesterday they had the front page _ yesterday they had the front gogo ot— yesterday they had the front page ot tno — yesterday they had the front page of the daily mirror saying cnooo— page of the daily mirror saying cnooo ot— page of the daily mirror saying cnooo ot tno— page of the daily mirror saying chaos at the coronation because of chaos at the coronation because ot nonn— chaos at the coronation because ot tony ont— chaos at the coronation because of harry and meghan. now we know that of harry and meghan. now we know tnot tno— of harry and meghan. now we know tnot tno-ot— of harry and meghan. now we know that the-of sussex— of harry and meghan. now we know that the-of sussex is- of harry and meghan. now we know that the of sussex is going that the duke of sussex is going to—gnooo- that the duke of sussex is going to_guess what? i to be there. but guess what? gust— to be there. but guess what? not a— to be there. but guess what? just a month— to be there. but guess what? just a month after— to be there. but guess what? just a month after-were. just a month after you were immensely officially people immensely officially let people know. doesn't know. but, you know, doesn't matter, she's going matter, does it? she's not going to there, duchess of to be there, the duchess of sussex. so there will be talk of a reconciliation.— sussex. so there will be talk of a reconciliation. .of- sisstziyx so there will be talk of a reconciliation. of course, a reconciliation. but of course, tnot— a reconciliation. but of course, tnot tttn-t— a reconciliation. but of course, that didn't happen the that didn't happen after the onto— that didn't happen after thei duke _funeral. duke of edinburgh's funeral. tnto—no.- duke of edinburgh's funeral. this—no, this. duke of edinburgh's funeral.| this—no, this will this the queen's no, this will be this the queen's no, this will to tno— this the queen's no, this will to to first— this the queen's no, this will be the first time— this the queen's no, this will be the first time they've ootnotty— be the first time they've actually - seen - be the first time they've- actually - seen . public actually been seen in public togotnon— actually been seen in public together. i harry, _ actually been seen in public together.iharry,-his. together. harry, with his brother and father. they haven't been how are been seen since. how are they going be very interesting going to be a very interesting day. right. meghan, day. right. well, meghan, as we've will not we've just discussed, will not be it is in defence be there, but it is in defence of meghan. her son archie's fourth birthday. so she's staying with the children. oh, nice . and of course, this will nice. and of course, this will be nice. and of course, this will to tno— nice. and of course, this will to to first— nice. and of course, this will be the first time— .; ec: and of course, this will be the first time harry has been nttn— be the first time harry has been nttn no— be the first time harry has been seen with his family since the nontonott— seen with his family since the bombshell memoir spare was pntttonot. — bombshell memoir spare was published. the— bombshell memoir spare was published. the biggest selling toot— published. the biggest selling toot ton— published. the biggest selling toot to o— published. the biggest selling book for a very,—

published. the biggest selling book for a very, very long time . ont— book for a very, very long time . ont tnot— book for a very, very long time , and that the— book for a very, very long time , and that the netflix interview as , and that the netflix interview no not — , and that the netflix interview no not sto— , and that the netflix interview as well. six parts— , and that the netflix interview as well. six parts of- , and that the netflix interview as well. git g as well. six parts of going. they owe me an apology, he hasn't got one, though, has he ? hasn't got one, though, has he? right. joining us this morning to discuss all of this is rob broadcaster and historian michael cole. good morning, michael. thank you for joining us. what an amazing story. good morning. good morning- us. what an amazing story. good morning. good morning ,- at; a?" g good morning. good morning, andrew. yes,— morning. good morning, andrew. too. to— morning. good morning, andrew. too. to catn— morning. good morning, andrew. too. to ootn on— morning. good morning, andrew. yes, to calm or not— morning. good morning, andrew. yes, to calm or not to calm, tnot— yes, to calm or not to calm, tnot no— yes, to calm or not to calm, that was the _ yes, to calm or not to calm, that was the question that potptooot— that was the question that perplexed the _ that was the question that perplexed the prince of montecito _ perplexed the prince of montecito .— perplexed the prince of montecito . troublesome as it montecito. troublesome as it ant— montecito. troublesome as it ant no— montecito. troublesome as it was. and now what? we've got is a was. and now what? we've got is o tott— was. and now what? we've got is a split decision.— was. and now what? we've got is a split decision. and i must say,— a split decision. and i must soy. tn— a split decision. and i must soy, tn ott— a split decision. and i must say, in all humility , that it say, in all humility, that it oxootty— say, in all humility, that it was exactly what i predicted on tnto— was exactly what i predicted on tnto ton— was exactly what i predicted on tnto very gtognn— was exactly what i predicted on this very program and on this very— this very program and on this very ononnot. — this very program and on this very channel. more than once, he is very channel. more than once, he to oontng— very channel. more than once, he to oontng ont— very channel. more than once, he is coming and she— very channel. more than once, he is coming and she is— very channel. more than once, he is coming and she is not. and as you— is coming and she is not. and as you too.— is coming and she is not. and as you soy, nonn— is coming and she is not. and as you soy, donn .— is coming and she is not. and as you say, dawn , she— is coming and she is not. and as you say, dawn , she has the you say, dawn, she has the pontoo— you say, dawn, she has the perfect cover— you say, dawn, she has the perfect cover of— you say, dawn, she has the perfect cover of prince archie's tonttn — perfect cover of prince archie's fourth birthday— perfect cover of prince archie's fourth birthday party. and i'm sno— fourth birthday party. and i'm sure she wants— fourth birthday party. and i'm sure she wants to give him a ttttto— sure she wants to give him a little california— sure she wants to give him a little california birthday party nttn— little california birthday party nttn ott— little california birthday party nttn ott tno— little california birthday party with all the trimmings, jelly beans— with all the trimmings, jelly beans ont— with all the trimmings, jelly beans and marshmallow and all the beans and marshmallow and all to root— beans and marshmallow and all to not ot— beans and marshmallow and all to not ot tt— beans and marshmallow and all the rest of it .— beans and marshmallow and all the rest of it . it— beans and marshmallow and all the rest of it . it would be the rest of it. it would be ten.— the rest of it. it would be very, very— the rest of it. it would be

very, very strange if prince nonn— very, very strange if prince tony ott— very, very strange if prince tony ttt not— very, very strange if prince harry did not come. the coronation— harry did not come. the coronation is— harry did not come. the coronation is the most important nont— coronation is the most important nont tn— coronation is the most important nont tn ony— coronation is the most important moment in any reign. it's very tnoonont— moment in any reign. it's very tngonont to— moment in any reign. it's very important to our— moment in any reign. it's very important to our constitution , important to our constitution, nottonot— important to our constitution, national monarchy, which is our ton— national monarchy, which is our ton toot— national monarchy, which is our very best defence— national monarchy, which is our very best defence against extennttsnn— very best defence against extremism and dictatorship in tnts— extremism and dictatorship in tnts country.— extremism and dictatorship in this country. and— extremism and dictatorship in this country. and he will be tene— this country. and he will be ten ont— this country. and he will be tee and ne— this country. and he will be here and he will— this country. and he will be here and he will also be here for here and he will also be here to onotnet— here and he will also be here for another reason. a rather more temporal— for another reason. a rather more temporal rather than sntntnot— more temporal rather than spiritual reason. but three days otter— spiritual reason. but three days otter tne— spiritual reason. but three days after the coronation , he's the after the coronation, he's the ston— after the coronation, he's the star witness _ after the coronation, he's the star witness in— after the coronation, he's the star witness in a— after the coronation, he's the star witness in a joint action ogotnst— star witness in a joint action ogotnst annot— star witness in a joint action against mirror group newspapers ottegtng— against mirror group newspapers ottegtng pnone— against mirror group newspapers alleging phone hacking and other tttegot— alleging phone hacking and other illegal invasions— alleging phone hacking and other illegal invasions of privacy. so he illegal invasions of privacy. so ne nttt— illegal invasions of privacy. so ne nttt te— illegal invasions of privacy. so he will be here. _ illegal invasions of privacy. so he will be here. he's an active ttttgont— he will be here. he's an active ttttgont .— he will be here. he's an active ttttgont . ont— he will be here. he's an active litigant , and so— he will be here. he's an active litigant, and so he has to be in town— litigant, and so he has to be in town .— litigant, and so he has to be in town . nut— litigant, and so he has to be in town . nut t— litigant, and so he has to be in town . but i think— litigant, and so he has to be in town . but i think we've got to town. but i think we've got to gtve— town. but i think we've got to gtxe tutt— town. but i think we've got to give full marks— town. but i think we've got to give full marks to— town. but i think we've got to give full marks to our new king stones— give full marks to our new king cnottes ...,_ give full marks to our new king charles iii, because he's played it charles iii, because he's played tt rotten— charles iii, because he's played it rather cleverly— charles iii, because he's played it rather cleverly in all the gtextons— it rather cleverly in all the previous coronations. and can you— previous coronations. and can you tnogtnee— previous coronations. and can you imagine? imagine 40 monarchs nove— you imagine? imagine 40 monarchs note teen—

you imagine? imagine 40 monarchs have been crowned— you imagine? imagine 40 monarchs have been crowned in westminster abbey— have been crowned in westminster abbey .— have been crowned in westminster abbey . atng— have been crowned in westminster abbey . king charles is by far abbey. king charles is by far tne— abbey. king charles is by far tne ottest— abbey. king charles is by far the oldest of— abbey. king charles is by far the oldest of them at 74, and nes— the oldest of them at 74, and he's tweaked— the oldest of them at 74, and he's tweaked the— the oldest of them at 74, and he's tweaked the coronation sentoe— he's tweaked the coronation sentoe os— he's tweaked the coronation service as previously all royal nnnoes— service as previously all royal princes there— service as previously all royal princes there present had to tneet— princes there present had to tneet ont— princes there present had to kneel and swear— princes there present had to kneel and swear an oath of teotty— kneel and swear an oath of teotty ot— kneel and swear an oath of fealty of loyalty. but king stones— fealty of loyalty. but king charles has— fealty of loyalty. but king charles has stopped that. and he set— charles has stopped that. and he sott only— charles has stopped that. and he sott only tnts— charles has stopped that. and he said only this time— charles has stopped that. and he said only this time it will be ntnoe— said only this time it will be prince william— said only this time it will be prince william ,_ said only this time it will be prince william , the heir prince william, the heir .pp..gm,_ prince william, the heir apparent, the- prince william, the heir apparent, the prince of wales. only— apparent, the prince of wales. enty ne— apparent, the prince of wales. only ne nttt— apparent, the prince of wales. only he will kneel. that means tnot— only he will kneel. that means tnot otnet— only he will kneel. that means that other princes,— only he will kneel. that means that other princes, including ntnoe — that other princes, including prince andrew,— that other princes, including prince andrew, who has his own onxote— prince andrew, who has his own gnxote stout— prince andrew, who has his own private cloud over— prince andrew, who has his own private cloud over his head, out— private cloud over his head, nttt not— private cloud over his head, will not have— private cloud over his head, will not have to— private cloud over his head, will not have to do so, and nor nttt— will not have to do so, and nor nttt ntnoe— will not have to do so, and nor will prince harry.— will not have to do so, and nor will prince harry. so that's natty— will prince harry. so that's really gutte— will prince harry. so that's really quite cleverly finessed tnot— really quite cleverly finessed tnot one— really quite cleverly finessed that one. michael the they seem to nont— that one. michael the they seem to wont tt— that one. michael the they seem to want it both— that one. michael the they seem to want it both though there tnett— to want it both though there tnett — to want it both though there their own both _ to want it both though there their own both ways don't they negnon — their own both ways don't they negnon ont— their own both ways don't they meghan and harry because they're ontttnen— meghan and harry because they're ontttten one— meghan and harry because they're ontttten o— meghan and harry because they're children are a prince and gnness — children are a prince and princess. she- children are a prince and princess. et children are a prince and princess. she and that was clearly a very important issue to them and yet their mother of

the prince and princess is staying away from the first coronation in this country since 1953. what's she going to tell those kids a bit later on when they see that they're not in the official coronation photographs with their cousins ? i think it's with their cousins? i think it's a very with their cousins? i think it's oxen nonto— with their cousins? i think it's a very major thing.— with their cousins? i think it's a very major thing. and- ” f “57 i think it's a very major thing. and you ” f 57 i think it's a very major thing. and you put your— a very major thing. and you put your finger— a very major thing. and you put your finger right— a very major thing. and you put your finger right on it. this is far your finger right on it. this is tot none— your finger right on it. this is far more important than any stngte— far more important than any stngte person— far more important than any single person. you know , this is single person. you know, this is a moment, a very— single person. you know, this is a moment, a very rare moment. tnere— a moment, a very rare moment. tnere nove— a moment, a very rare moment. there have been— a moment, a very rare moment. there have been more total solar eottnses— there have been more total solar eottnses tn— there have been more total solar eottgses tn tne— there have been more total solar eclipses in the last— there have been more total solar eclipses in the last 200 years tnon— eclipses in the last 200 years tnon tnere— eclipses in the last 200 years than there have— eclipses in the last 200 years than there have been coronations . tnere— than there have been coronations . tnere nove— than there have been coronations . there have been— than there have been coronations . there have been seven, seven of . there have been seven, seven ot tnose. — . there have been seven, seven ot tnose. so— . there have been seven, seven of those. so it's— . there have been seven, seven of those. so it's very important tney— of those. so it's very important they snontt— of those. so it's very important they should be— of those. so it's very important they should be here. it's part of they should be here. it's part ot or— they should be here. it's part of our history. _ they should be here. it's part of our history. it's— they should be here. it's part of our history. it's part of tnen — of our history. it's part of tnen .— of our history. it's part of tnen . tney— of our history. it's part of them . they are- of our history. it's part of them . they are for goodness them. they are for goodness sate.— them. they are for goodness sate. tne— them. they are for goodness sake, the prince— them. they are for goodness sake, the prince and princess of our realm. and— sake, the prince and princess of our realm. and that's important to everybodv-_ our realm. and that's important to everybody. and— our realm. and that's important to everybody. and the 14 overseas realms of which king cnortes — overseas realms of which king cnortes tne— overseas realms of which king charles. the third— overseas realms of which king charles. the third is king. obviouslvr_ charles. the third is king. obviously, she— charles. the third is king. obviously, she would have i nonto— obviously, she would have i nontt nove— obviously, she would have i would have thought that she

ntgnt— would have thought that she ntgnt nove— would have thought that she might have the— would have thought that she might have the lure of the ttnettgnt— might have the lure of the ttnettgnt .— might have the lure of the limelight, might have been too noon— limelight, might have been too nnon ont— limelight, might have been too much and have— limelight, might have been too much and have drawn her here. not— much and have drawn her here. not tn— much and have drawn her here. not t-n sure— much and have drawn her here. but i'm sure there— much and have drawn her here. but i'm sure there were considerations , too, of what considerations, too, of what sort— considerations, too, of what sort ot— considerations, too, of what sort of reception- considerations, too, of what sort of reception she would get. tne— sort of reception she would get. rte-geome— sort of reception she would get. rte-neoote ore- sort of reception she would get. the people are endlessly the british people are endlessly potte— the british people are endlessly oottte .— the british people are endlessly gottte . tney-re— the british people are endlessly polite . they're certainly even polite. they're certainly even gotte— polite. they're certainly even more polite when they're in entren— more polite when they're in onnron. ant— more polite when they're in church. and don't think that church. and i don't think that tnere— church. and i don't think that tnere nonto— church. and i don't think that there would have— church. and i don't think that there would have been much tootng— there would have been much tootng-tnon- there would have been much booing, know something? booing, but you know something? um booing, but you know something? gm sttenoe— booing, but you know something? gm sttenoe ts— booing, but you know something? um silence is a— booing, but you know something? um silence is a very much more nonertnt— um silence is a very much more gonertnt wav— um silence is a very much more gonertnt way ot— um silence is a very much more powerful way of expressing ttsoggroxot— powerful way of expressing disapproval and maybe she sonttn-t— disapproval and maybe she couldn't have— disapproval and maybe she couldn't have coped with it . as couldn't have coped with it. as you— couldn't have coped with it. as you soy.— couldn't have coped with it. as you soy, tney— couldn't have coped with it. as you say, they want— couldn't have coped with it. as you say, they want to have it tott— you say, they want to have it totn noos— you say, they want to have it both ways, but— you say, they want to have it both ways, but i'm glad that trtnoe— both ways, but i'm glad that trtnoe torn— both ways, but i'm glad that prince harry is— both ways, but i'm glad that prince harry is coming. i don't anv— prince harry is coming. i don't ayn tnere— prince harry is coming. i don't kyiv there will— prince harry is coming. i don't kyiv there will be— kyiv there will be a reconciliation session. there snorte— reconciliation session. there snontt te— reconciliation session. there should be between two brothers teoonse— should be between two brothers teoonse non-re— should be between two brothers because you're going to talk about— because you're going to talk about princess— because you're going to talk about princess diana. and she nonto— about princess diana. and she nontt te— about princess diana. and she would be absolutely she would be so sot— would be absolutely she would be so sot to— would be absolutely she would be so sot to see— would be absolutely she would be so sad to see her— would be absolutely she would be so sad to see her sons who she tnongnt— so sad to see her sons who she thought would— so sad to see her sons who she thought would always be there for thought would always be there tor ersn— thought would always be there for each other— thought would always be there for each other at— thought would always be there for each other at loggerheads ttne— for each other at loggerheads ttte tnts — for each other at loggerheads like this. what— for each other at loggerheads like this. what they should have tone— like this. what they should have tone ts.— like this. what they should have tone ts non— like this. what they should have done is, you know,— like this. what they should have done is, you know, met at a pub nottnon— done is, you know, met at a pub halfway between _

done is, you know, met at a pub halfway between sandringham and tonton— halfway between sandringham and tonton .— halfway between sandringham and tonton . snott— halfway between sandringham and london , shall we— halfway between sandringham and london , shall we say, the eagle london, shall we say, the eagle in london, shall we say, the eagle tn contrttge— london, shall we say, the eagle tn contrttge .— london, shall we say, the eagle in cambridge , and sorted out in cambridge, and sorted out tnetr— in cambridge, and sorted out their difficulties— in cambridge, and sorted out their difficulties to see any family— their difficulties to see any family bowing— their difficulties to see any family bowing in public . having family bowing in public. having a family bowing in public. having a street— family bowing in public. having a street ntgnt— family bowing in public. having a street fight is— family bowing in public. having a street fight is disgusting. ant— a street fight is disgusting. ant tnere— a street fight is disgusting. and there are— a street fight is disgusting. and there are very few sights in the and there are very few sights in tne nnote— and there are very few sights in the whole world _ and there are very few sights in the whole world worse than seetng— the whole world worse than seetng tno — the whole world worse than seeing two brothers at war. atsotntetn — seeing two brothers at war. absolutely. michael,- seeing two brothers at war. absolutely. michael, can i just ask i mean, this is obviously one of the most important things that will ever happen to the royals. you say they are as rare as hen's teeth. 70 years since the last one. but if meghan can't over for this one and can't come over for this one and i understand children's i understand the children's birthday party, i'll do as andrew said, feel sorry for birthday party, i'll do as andchildren said, feel sorry for birthday party, i'll do as andchildren in d, feel sorry for birthday party, i'll do as andchildren in thistel sorry for birthday party, i'll do as andchildren in this because for the children in this because they're not going to be in those pictures with their cousins. but do think will ever see do you think we will ever see meghan a public role in meghan in a royal public role in this again, or this this country again, or is this the last ever see of her the last we'll ever see of her in this story? oh i think it's a very good point. i think they are very good point. i think they nnot— very good point. i think they nnot tnen— very good point. i think they are what they are— wig g: ithink they are what they are intent on totng— are what they are intent on totng ts— are what they are intent on doing is setting— are what they are intent on doing is setting up an alternate sonn— doing is setting up an alternate torn—.— doing is setting up an alternate sonn—. nett- doing is setting up an alternate court_. we'll see. court in california. we'll see non— court in california. we'll see non nett— court in california. we'll see how well that— court in california. we'll see how well that goes, because tnere— how well that goes, because tnere ts— how well that goes, because tnere ts vern— how well that goes, because there is very clear signs that tnen-re— there is very clear signs that tnenre tostng— there is very clear signs that they're losing their popularity

ont— they're losing their popularity and geogte— they're losing their popularity and geogte ore— they're losing their popularity and people are getting bored nttn— and people are getting bored nttn tten— and people are getting bored with them. the— and people are getting bored with them. the thing about arnenoons— with them. the thing about americans is— with them. the thing about americans is they always want the americans is they always want tne next— americans is they always want the next-thing.- americans is they always want the next thing. this is the the next best thing. this is the none— the next best thing. this is the tone ot— the next best thing. this is the home of nostalgia. if you want to te— home of nostalgia. if you want to be revered— home of nostalgia. if you want to be revered for— home of nostalgia. if you want to be revered for being old and estotttstert— to be revered for being old and established, this— to be revered for being old and established, this the place established, this is the place to-toot— established, this is the place to-toot ot— established, this is the place to-look at.the- established, this is the place to look at the old to be. look at all the old hollywood— to be. look at all the old hollywood stars who come over ten— hollywood stars who come over nee-tn— hollywood stars who come over nere-tn nonto- hollywood stars who come over here-in panto and- hollywood stars who come over here in panto and so here and star in panto and so anertoo— here and star in panto and so on. america always wants the next— on. america always wants the next -whether- on. america always wants the next whether they're next thing. so whether they're tnetr— next thing. so whether they're their popularity— next thing. so whether they're their popularity will last the next— their popularity will last the next ten— their popularity will last the next few months or more years. ont— next few months or more years. not ot— next few months or more years. not ot onrse— next few months or more years. but of course, she— next few months or more years. but of course, she has her eyes set— but of course, she has her eyes set on— but of course, she has her eyes set on gernogs— but of course, she has her eyes set on gernogs o— but of course, she has her eyes set on perhaps a political career . maybe- set on perhaps a political career . maybe that's the next career. maybe that's the next big— career. maybe that's the next ttg tntng— career. maybe that's the next ttg tntng .— career. maybe that's the next ttg tntng . tt-s— career. maybe that's the next big thing . it's difficult big thing. it's difficult because— big thing. it's difficult because when you have spent the tost— because when you have spent the tost tno — because when you have spent the tost two years— because when you have spent the last two years knocking seven tens— last two years knocking seven tetts ont— last two years knocking seven tetts ont ot— last two years knocking seven bells out of the— last two years knocking seven bells out of the royal family ont— bells out of the royal family and ott— bells out of the royal family and at tne— bells out of the royal family and all the other personages in it, and all the other personages in g, non— and all the other personages in g, ton to— and all the other personages in g, ton to non— and all the other personages in it, how do you come and face tnene— it, how do you come and face them? because— it, how do you come and face them? because prince harry has otso— them? because prince harry has otso sort— them? because prince harry has also said some— them? because prince harry has also said some very cruel and nntotr— also said some very cruel and nntotr ont— also said some very cruel and unfair and unkind— also said some very cruel and unfair and unkind things about oneen— unfair and unkind things about queen camilla— unfair and unkind things about queen camilla queen camilla is going— queen camilla queen camilla is gotng to— queen camilla queen camilla is gotng to te— queen camilla queen camilla is going to be crowned alongside her going to be crowned alongside ner tenant.— going to be crowned alongside her husband. now, how how on eortn— her husband. now, how how on eortn ts— her husband. now, how how on eortn ts tnot— her husband. now, how how on earth is that going to go down? non— earth is that going to go down? how to— earth is that going to go down? how to non— earth is that going to go down? how do you actually reconcile tnot— how do you actually reconcile tnot tt— how do you actually reconcile that it would _ how do you actually reconcile that it would actually need a

atsstnger— that it would actually need a atsstnger or— that it would actually need a kissinger or it— that it would actually need a kissinger or it need a talleyrand,- kissinger or it need a talleyrand, it would need a str— talleyrand, it would need a str ot— talleyrand, it would need a master of diplomacy to smooth tnts— master of diplomacy to smooth tnts one— master of diplomacy to smooth tnts — master of diplomacy to smooth this one over. i— master of diplomacy to smooth this one over. i am— master of diplomacy to smooth this one over. i am available if tnen— this one over. i am available if tnen neet— this one over. i am available if they neet ne— this one over. i am available if they need me to— this one over. i am available if they need me to do it . but this one over. i am available if they need me to do it. but nice try .— they need me to do it. but nice try . ont— they need me to do it. but nice try . nnt tt— they need me to do it. but nice try . nnt tt nttt— they need me to do it. but nice try . but it will need it will try. but it will need it will neet— try. but it will need it will need somebody of our sort of stonttng— need somebody of our sort of stonttng to— need somebody of our sort of standing to actually calm these tronttet— standing to actually calm these troubled waters. _ standing to actually calm these troubled waters. and my gootness— troubled waters. and my goodness, they have been tronttet— goodness, they have been troubled. they— goodness, they have been troubled. they certainly have. mennon— troubled. they certainly have. michael, thanks— troubled. they certainly have. michael, thanks so— troubled. they certainly have. michael, thanks so much.- troubled. they certainly have. michael, thanks so much. that's michael, thanks so much. that's michael cole, the royal broadcast and historian. it is an extraordinary story. and the but at least the meghan and harry show will not distract from the main challenge, which is the coronation of the king, because it is and the queen charles and and charles and camilla and michael's make the michael's right to make the point he was pretty rude about queen camilla miller. he was very the very rude, actually. yeah. the nonet— very rude, actually. yeah. the wicked witch. i wicked witch. yeah. yeah, i know. i mean, hello. and you couldn't look— know. i mean, hello. and you couldn't look every- .. and you couldn't look every family falls out:— couldn't look every family falls out. non— couldn't look every family falls out, you understand that? and tnts— out, you understand that? and tntsltnst— out, you understand that? and tntsltnst o— out, you understand that? and this-just a family.- out, you understand that? and this just a family. but i this is just a family. but i nonto— this is just a family. but i would move— this is just a family. but i would move heaven and earth. not to-ont— would move heaven and earth. not to-ont-nn— would move heaven and earth. not to-ont-nn stster- would move heaven and earth. not to-out-my sister. but- to fall out with my sister. but tnen— to fall out with my sister. but tnen-sne-s— to fall out with my sister. but then - she's not - to fall out with my sister. but then she's not gonna to fall out with my sister. but then a she's not gonna to fall out with my sister. but then a bookrhe's not gonna to fall out with my sister. but then a book aboutot gonna to fall out with my sister. but then a book about everything write a book about everything i say write a book about everything i son-to.— write a book about everything i son-no. — write a book about everything i son-no. ant- write a book about everything i say-no. and maybe. write a book about everything i. say-no. and maybe have say to her. no. and maybe have a tape recorder in your. i mean,

remember the queen swept the room the room swept room before, had the room swept before with before the last meeting with prince harry. queen infamously say,— prince harry. queen infamously son tnont— prince harry. queen infamously sayr tnont sot.— prince harry. queen infamously say, thank god, thank- 37” tii; queen infamously say, thank god, thank god 37” ti.ti; queen infamously say, thank god, thank god meghan tsn-t—gosn- isn't coming. yeah. oh, gosh, tt-s—otl it's horrible. right? and of course-to— it's horrible. right? and of course, do move on, though. course, we do move on, though. tne— course, we do move on, though. the-government- course, we do move on, though. the government under the scottish government under new-humza-willl new leader humza yousaf, will snottenge— challenge the uk government's use challenge the uk government's ot— challenge the uk government's use of section— challenge the uk government's use of section 35— challenge the uk government's use of section 35 the use of section 35 of the soottont— use of section 35 of the scotland act. - use of section 35 of the scotland act. use of section 35 of the. scotland act. .this is use of section 35 of the- scotland act. .this is about scotland act. now this is about the secretary of state for scotland, alister jack, using it scotland, alisterjack, using it to stop that gender recognition reform bill, which effectively allows children young as 15.5 allows children as young as 15.5 to the process of changing to start the process of changing their consulting their gender without consulting even doctors. i i'm struggling with this story as well this morning. it's one of those days, ntgnt. — morning. it's one of those days, ntgnt. tet-s— morning. it's one of those days, ntgnt. tet-s get— morning. it's one of those days, right. let's get the— g it's one of those days, right. let's get the latest from tormen— right. let's get the latest from tonne snn— right. let's get the latest from former snp member stuart crontort— former snp member stuart crontort .— former snp member stuart crawford . good— former snp member stuart crawford . good morning, stuart. crawford. good morning, stuart. tnont— crawford. good morning, stuart. tnont non— crawford. good morning, stuart. tnont non tor— crawford. good morning, stuart. thank you for joining crawford. good morning, stuart. thank you forjoining us crawford. good morning, stuart. thank you for joining us this norntng. — thank you for joining us this morning. .what- thank you for joining us this morning. what exactly is morning. so what exactly is noggentnge— morning. so what exactly is happening? cttn— morning. so what exactly is happening? can you just explain nnot— happening? can you just explain nnot ts— happening? can you just explain what is happening with this seotton— what is happening with this section 35?— what is happening with this section 35? what section 35 ootnottn— section 35? what section 35 actually even— section 35? what section 35 actually even is— section 35? what section 35 actually even is and what it means for scotland ? i: means for scotland? good norntng. — means for scotland? good morning. well let me start by saying that such are the political developments in scotland over the past few weeks

and months. it's very difficult to teen— and months. it's very difficult to keep nn— and months. it's very difficult to keep up because- eiti�*t: it's very difficult to keep up because every day trtngs— to keep up because every day trtngs o— to keep up because every day tntngs a new— to keep up because every day brings a new problem for the snp and brings a new problem for the snp ont tne— brings a new problem for the snp and the scottish— brings a new problem for the snp and the scottish government. tnt— and the scottish government. nnt tostottn— and the scottish government. but basically the— and the scottish government. but basically the section- and the scottish government. i i“ 3; and the scottish government. i i 3; but basically the section 35 is contained in the scotland act 1998, which set up the parameters of the scottish parliament and is the clause that allows westminster to intervene, if any legislation passed by the scottish parliament that appears to contradict current uk legislation . and nobody objected legislation. and nobody objected to it when the scotland act was was passed in 1998 and it's now been invoked by alister jack to prevent the measures introduced and passed by the scottish parliament, which you've just spoken about being implemented by preventing them getting royal assent. and the reason for that is that the scottish parliament has passed in the bill a legislation which he and westminster argued contradicts and contrary means. the equality

act , which and contrary means. the equality act, which applies to and contrary means. the equality act , which applies to the whole act, which applies to the whole of the uk . and that's basically of the uk. and that's basically what the battle is all about . what the battle is all about. and this is humza yousaf isn't it? and this is humza yousaf isn't to stron— and this is humza yousaf isn't it? stuart following the agenda of it? stuart following the agenda ot nrs— it? stuart following the agenda of his predecessor— it? stuart following the agenda of his predecessor as continuity oontttote— of his predecessor as continuity oontttote to— of his predecessor as continuity candidate to nicola sturgeon and it candidate to nicola sturgeon and tt os— candidate to nicola sturgeon and tt tn— candidate to nicola sturgeon and tt tn ny— candidate to nicola sturgeon and it was in my view— candidate to nicola sturgeon and it was in my view a— candidate to nicola sturgeon and it was in my view a major factor in it was in my view a major factor tn ner— it was in my view a major factor tn ner tott— it was in my view a major factor in her fall from _ it was in my view a major factor in her fall from power. bupa yes . tt-s— in her fall from power. bupa yes , it's interesting— in her fall from power. bupa yes , it's interesting that the snp mav— , it's interesting that the snp non nett— , it's interesting that the snp may nett tntng— , it's interesting that the snp may well bring itself down not by tts— may well bring itself down not by its independence agenda which otntonstn— by its independence agenda which otntonsty tt— by its independence agenda which obviously it has— by its independence agenda which obviously it has pursued with ntgonr— obviously it has pursued with some vigour over— obviously it has pursued with some vigour over the years, but by a— some vigour over the years, but to o tentnenot— some vigour over the years, but by a peripheral issue which is the by a peripheral issue which is tne tttt— by a peripheral issue which is the bill humza— by a peripheral issue which is the bill humza yousaf is the tnteet— the bill humza yousaf is the indeed been— the bill humza yousaf is the indeed been called the continuity— indeed been called the continuity candidate and appears to none— continuity candidate and appears to none ott— continuity candidate and appears to have all the— continuity candidate and appears to have all the hallmarks of someone who's— to have all the hallmarks of someone who's not playing to his ogento— someone who's not playing to his ogento . — someone who's not playing to his own agenda . it's— someone who's not playing to his own agenda . l someone who's not playing to his own agenda . e �*" own agenda. it's almost as if someone else is still pulling the strings . yeah, but the the strings. yeah, but the agenda , the bill is deeply agenda, the bill is deeply unpopular with the scottish population. the scottish electorate as a whole and quite why he's continuing down this path almost beggars belief. i

think it's more to do with confrontation with westminster than it is to do with anything else. is it also a way of distracting from the huge financial problems the snp have got? the police investigate an peter— got? the police investigate an peter murrell_ got? the police investigate an peter murrell who _ git7 the police investigate an peter murrell who was gitt7 the police investigate an peter murrell who was the chief exentne — peter murrell who was the chief executive arrested _ peter murrell who was the chief executive arrested and interviewed- executive arrested and interviewed by the police. we stttt— interviewed by the police. we stttt ton-t— interviewed by the police. we still don't know— interviewed by the police. we still don't know where the £600,000— still don't know where the £600,000 was— still don't know where the £600,000 was spent. why he gave the £600,000 was spent. why he gave tne eret— £600,000 was spent. why he gave the secret loan— £600,000 was spent. why he gave the secret loan to— £600,000 was spent. why he gave the secret loan to the— £600,000 was spent. why he gave the secret loan to the snp . the secret loan to the snp. nernots— the secret loan to the snp. rennots nes— the secret loan to the snp. perhaps he's trying to distract tron— perhaps he's trying to distract tron tnot. — perhaps he's trying to distract from that. well— perhaps he's trying to distract from that. well yes, i mean all of from that. well yes, i mean all ot tne— from that. well yes, i mean all of the above. _ from that. well yes, i mean all of the above. the— from that. well yes, i mean all of the above. 53m 37�* from that. well yes, i mean all of the above. 53x 37�* t“ from that. well yes, i mean all of the above. 53\t 37�* t“ of the above. the snp is in some turmoil . i of the above. the snp is in some turmoil. i think of the above. the snp is in some turmoil . i think one could put turmoil. i think one could put it euphemistically over all those issues and in many ways, if you look through history, when a state is in turmoil, the leader of that state will invent a foreign war to bring the country together again . you country together again. you could see this move by humza yousaf as being in that sort of context . it suffice to say, context. it suffice to say, though, at this point, although we think it's highly unlikely that the challenge to the

section 35 order, which eventually will end up in the supreme court , will succeed, we supreme court, will succeed, we don't know for sure , sir, but don't know for sure, sir, but it's a process that's going to take well, certainly the rest of this year and possibly a big chunk of next before it's resolved. i chunk of next before it's resolved . i just find it resolved. i just find it astonishing- : i just find it astonishing that of all the totttes— astonishing that of all the totttes ne— astonishing that of all the battles he chooses to fight, he nooses— battles he chooses to fight, he chooses this— battles he chooses to fight, he chooses this one— battles he chooses to fight, he chooses this one when there are so nont— chooses this one when there are so many as we all— chooses this one when there are so many as we all know, there are so many problems. and swag,— are so many problems. and stnon. ne— are so many problems. and stuart, he did— are so many problems. and stuart, he did manage to send ntnsett— stuart, he did manage to send himself from _ stuart, he did manage to send himself from the— stuart, he did manage to send himself from the vote on this tegtstotton— himself from the vote on this legislation because there are snggesttons— legislation because there are suggestions he— legislation because there are suggestions he did not want to ottent— suggestions he did not want to ottent nrs— suggestions he did not want to offend his followers in his own nnsttn — offend his followers in his own muslim faith— offend his followers in his own muslim faith . _ offend his followers in his own muslim faith . t/ti;5 :: one muslim faith. yes, indeed. one of muslim faith. yes, indeed. one ot tne— muslim faith. yes, indeed. one ot tne greots— muslim faith. yes, indeed. one of the greats of— muslim faith. t/ti;5 :: one of the greats of contradict of tne— of the greats of contradict of tne stn— of the greats of contradict of the snp leadership race was that note— the snp leadership race was that tote tortes— the snp leadership race was that kate forbes was— the snp leadership race was that kate forbes was taken to task for kate forbes was taken to task tor ner— kate forbes was taken to task for her religious— kate forbes was taken to task for her religious beliefs and ten— for her religious beliefs and ten tottt— for her religious beliefs and her faith and— for her religious beliefs and her faith and the fact that she sort— her faith and the fact that she sott sne— her faith and the fact that she said she would— her faith and the fact that she said she would not have voted for said she would not have voted tor tne— said she would not have voted tor tne tttt— said she would not have voted for the bill had— said she would not have voted for the bill had she been in parliament— for the bill had she been in parliament and— for the bill had she been in parliament and yet it's quite oteor— parliament and yet it's quite oteor tnot— parliament and yet it's quite clear that humza yousaf used an nttn— clear that humza yousaf used an

nttn o— clear that humza yousaf used an excuse with a meeting with one of excuse with a meeting with one ot tne— excuse with a meeting with one of the consulates— excuse with a meeting with one of the consulates in glasgow to get ont— of the consulates in glasgow to get out ot— of the consulates in glasgow to get out ot tne— of the consulates in glasgow to get out of the vote. so that he nonto— get out of the vote. so that he nontt not— get out of the vote. so that he would not upset— get out of the vote. so that he would not upset his his tontontor— would not upset his his particular faith . so there's particular faith. so there's tots— particular faith. so there's tots ot— particular faith. so there's lots of contradictions and lots of lots of contradictions and lots ot nnntng— lots of contradictions and lots of humbug and— lots of contradictions and lots of humbug and hypocrisy going on up of humbug and hypocrisy going on no rug,— of humbug and hypocrisy going on no nere. tnt— of humbug and hypocrisy going on no nere. tnt tt— of humbug and hypocrisy going on up here, but it changes from day to ton— up here, but it changes from day to ton nno— up here, but it changes from day to day. who knows— up here, but it changes from day to day. who knows what tomorrow will to day. who knows what tomorrow nttt trtnge — to day. who knows what tomorrow will bring? well,— to day. who knows what tomorrow will bring? biotic: ”ti: will bring? well, stuart, you're presumably you'll be able to tell us that stuart crawford, a leading figure in the snp, thanks so for joining leading figure in the snp, thanks so forjoining us. thanks so much forjoining us. quite astonishing isn't quite astonishing story, isn't it? quite astonishing story, isn't rte—none- quite astonishing story, isn't rte—none onl quite astonishing story, isn'ti it?_move on to quite astonishing story, isn't- it?_move on to more it? right now we move on to more totttes.— it? right now we move on to more totttes. ntgnt— it? right now we move on to more politics. right despite a neottny— politics. right despite a healthy lead— politics. right despite a healthy lead in the polls , healthy lead in the polls, tenstons— healthy lead in the polls, tensions within labour party tensions within the labour party are tensions within the labour party rtstng— tensions within the labour party nstng oner— tensions within the labour party are rising over keir starmer's ste— are rising over keir starmer's stance on these— are rising over keir starmer's stance on these trans stance on these very trans . tt-s— stance on these very trans issues . l “rig stance on these very trans issues . l issues. it's extraordinary. so gb news has got a great scoop that the lgbt wing of labour is considering withdrawing from pride marches this because pride marches this year because they the party brand has they say the party brand has become toxic this issue . our become toxic on this issue. our deputy political editor- titti our deputy political editor tom nornoot— deputy political editor tom harwood joins— deputy political editor tom harwood joins us here for the totest— harwood joins us here for the totestltnts— harwood joins us here for the latest-this-good- latest on this one. good norntng.— latest on this one. good morning, tom.- latest on this one. good morning, tom. good morning . morning, tom. good morning. vern— very, very controversial son-est.— very, very controversial subject, - hot - very, very controversial subject, hot topic. so very, very controversial- subject,-hot topic. so what subject, very hot topic. so what is subject, very hot topic. so what ts ootnottn— subject, very hot topic. so what is actually happening now with this is actually happening now with tnts stone— is actually happening now with this story? well,— is actually happening now with this story? well, i've been steottng— this story? well, i've been speaking figures speaking to senior figures nttntn— speaking to senior figures within lgbt— speaking to senior figures within lgbt labour, the group ,

within lgbt labour, the group, the within lgbt labour, the group, tne otttotot— within lgbt labour, the group, the official wing— within lgbt labour, the group, the official wing of the of the totonr— the official wing of the of the totonr-tnot— the official wing of the of the labour that represents labour party that represents tott— labour party that represents tett-. — labour party that represents lgbt-. they've- labour party that represents lgbt-. they've gotl labour party that represents- lgbt-. they've got around lgbt issues. they've got around two dozen parliamentary supporters and have been at the forefront of many labour party campaigns in recent decades . campaigns in recent decades. extraordinarily, this group is now considering not marching under labour party banners at pride events across the country this year . pride events across the country this year. and the reason they're thinking that the that it would be wrong to march under the labour party brand is that that brand has become so toxified within the lgbt community in recent months . the community in recent months. the reason why is there's been a number of u—turns from the leadership of the labour party, particular around gender recognition act reform . only recognition act reform. only a few months ago, sir keir starmer was saying that the gender recognition act needs to be modernised in a similar way to the one that nicola sturgeon was trying to do in scotland . keir trying to do in scotland. keir starmer has now sort of u—turned on that, saying that in a leaked

policy document that i've obtained , no longer is the obtained, no longer is the labour party committed to reforming that act or modernising it, but instead the nebulous phrase build a consensus. the issue for labour here is exactly that. he's sitting on the fence, he's upset the lgbt activists because he's walked away from that original clear commitment. but again , the clear commitment. but again, the more gender critical people are not happy with the labour party and haven't been for some time because of all of the statements that labour made. so keir that labour has made. so keir starmer real risk here of starmer has a real risk here of standing in the middle the standing in the middle of the road and getting hit by traffic on both sides. the problem in soottont.— on both sides. the problem in scotland,-hasn't- on both sides. the problem in scotland,-hasn't he,- scotland, tom, hasn't he, tese— scotland, tom, hasn't he, because the _ scotland, tom, hasn't he, because the labour party in soottont— because the labour party in scotland, operates scotland, which operates independently scotland, which operates independeihe leaves in england party, that he leaves in england and party, that he leaves in england ont notes— party, that he leaves in england ont notes tn— party, that he leaves in england and wales in england, supported ttooto— and wales in england, supported nicola sturgeon— and wales in england, supported nicola sturgeon changes to gene— nicola sturgeon changes to genter so— nicola sturgeon changes to gender so that— nicola sturgeon changes to gender so that 15 year olds. so nes— gender so that 15 year olds. so ne-s gotng— gender so that 15 year olds. so ne-s gotng to— gender so that 15 year olds. so ne-s gotng to te— gender so that 15 year olds. so he's going to be completely at otts — he's going to be completely at otts ton— he's going to be completely at odds. now with— he's going to be completely at odds. now with the labour party in odds. now with the labour party tn soottont.— odds. now with the labour party in scotland, the— odds. now with the labour party in scotland, the tory party are going— in scotland, the tory party are gotng to— in scotland, the tory party are gotng to to— in scotland, the tory party are gotng to to ten— in scotland, the tory party are

going to do very well out of tnts— going to do very well out of this because— going to do very well out of this because they're the one party— this because they're the one tony tnot— this because they're the one party that thinks this whole tott— party that thinks this whole tett oe— party that thinks this whole lgbt move is— party that thinks this whole lgbt move is madness , which i lgbt move is madness, which i tntnt— lgbt move is madness, which i tntnt tt— lgbt move is madness, which i tntnt tt ts. — lgbt move is madness, which i think it is. -that's- think it is. well, that's assuming the labour party remains the issue. remains consistent on the issue. of course the labour of course. of course the labour party that . that final party did back that. that final vote in the scottish parliament towards the end of last year. so did the lib dems. there were some members of those parties who voted against it, but obviously it passed with with huge h obviously it passed with with huge it came huge numbers. but when it came to the section 35 order that alastair jack laid down to block this from becoming law, the labour party said they wouldn't oppose that section 35 order, so they backed the reform, but also they're not opposing the stopping of the reform . again, stopping of the reform. again, they're trying to be all things to all people and the risk there again is that that upsets both groups as we've started to see now with this this this move to not quite disaffiliation, but certainly not wanting to march under that labour party banner because this always reminds us that he has difficulties keir starmer identifying what he's a woman. well, this is the thing. i woman. well, this is the thing. t neon— woman. well, this is the thing. t tnts— woman. well, this is the thing. t ttts ts.—

woman. well, this is the thing. i mean, this is, you know, as tom was just it's like, tom was just saying, it's like, if if he doesn't. he's if he does, if he doesn't. he's trying to please everybody all the alienating the time and just alienating everybody. yeah, that's not what teotersntt— everybody. yeah, that's not what teotersntt ts— everybody. yeah, that's not what leadership is about. _ ”g : yeah, that's not what leadership is about. \titt . leadership is about. no, it's not— leadership is about. no, it's otont totng— leadership is about. no, it's about being a leader, isn't it? but great, story. you but a great, great story. you well done. now, joe giti;rit. giti;rit. you well done. now, joe biden is oonttnntng— well done. now, joe biden is continuing his— well done. now, joe biden is continuing his tour of the tetnttto— continuing his tour of the tetnttto ot— continuing his tour of the republic of ireland. i think some have actually republic of ireland. i think- some-have actually turned republic of ireland. i think- sonto-have actually turned republic of ireland. i think sonto him. we actually turned republic of ireland. i think sonto him. unlikeially turned republic of ireland. i think sonto him. unlike inly turned out to see him. unlike in tonnern— northern ireland. he's addressing— northern ireland. he's- addressing-parliament addressing the irish parliament tetore— addressing the irish parliament before_taoiseach,i before meeting the taoiseach, teo— before meeting the taoiseach, leo varadkar. _ before meeting the taoiseach, leo varadkar. it— before meeting the taoiseach, leo varadkar. it comes after the nntte—toroet- leo varadkar. it comes after the white—forced to- leo varadkar. it comes after the white forced to deny white house was forced to deny the white house was forced to deny tne-nos— white house was forced to deny the was anti—british the president was anti—british tottontng— the president was anti—british following meeting, following his brief meeting, a ten— following his brief meeting, a very—thel very brief meeting with the trrne— very brief meeting with the nrtne—so- very brief meeting with the prime _so we'rel very brief meeting with the- prime _so we're going prime minister. so we're going to talk now to darren mccaffrey , political editor, , who is our political editor, who over there in ireland who is over there in ireland with the president. darren, morning to you— with the president. darren, morning to you .- with the president. darren, morning to you . are- t:ti;“. darren, morning to you . are there crowds morning to you. are there crowds ttoottng— morning to you. are there crowds ttoottng to— morning to you. are there crowds ttoottng to see— morning to you. are there crowds flocking to see him _ morning to you. are there crowds flocking to see him ? t/tiutit“ flocking to see him? yeah, tnere-s— flocking to see him? yeah, there's certainly much more of a turnout here, unsurprisingly, given the fact the weather is nicer than it has been certainly in belfast over the last 24 hours or so . in belfast over the last 24 hours or so. kind of in belfast over the last 24 hours or so . kind of the hard hours or so. kind of the hard political lifting , if you like. political lifting, if you like. andrew was yesterday with that speech at the university of ulster. the president tried to

walk that fine line between trying to encourage stormont and the restoration of devolution in belfast , while at the same the restoration of devolution in belfast, while at the same time not trying to annoy unionists too much, not being seen to interfere too much. this, though, however, is the main leg of his visit. as you say , he is of his visit. as you say, he is meeting the irish president very shortly at his residence , rac shortly at his residence, rac lutheran, in the phoenix park here in dublin. he's then going to be the fourth us president to address both houses of the irish parliament. going to have a meeting with the taoiseach, leo varadkar, the irish premier, and then tonight at then a big dinner tonight at dubun then a big dinner tonight at dublin castle. and it's fair to say last night after he left belfast and he travelled to his home in county louth, ancestral home in county louth, it was a much more relaxed joe biden , joe biden, who seemed biden, joe biden, who seemed much more at home, if you like, with his baseball cap on, greeting crowds , taking selfies greeting crowds, taking selfies as, as i say, the politics of northern ireland sometimes can be quite hard. this is a much more relaxing bit of his visit. we know that president biden regards himself very strongly as

an irish american. he wears a shamrock very heavily on his sleeve . kyiv and it's fair to sleeve. kyiv and it's fair to say i think he's hoping that the images from here will go down pretty well with the 30, 40 million americans who also brand themselves as irish americans , themselves as irish americans, particularly if he's going to stand at the next general election in the us. darren, can we ask election in the us. darren, can we ost non.— election in the us. darren, can we ost you one— election in the us. darren, can we ask you, are you— election in the us. darren, can we ask you, are you on- it“ i“ darren, can we ask you, are you on gaff notone— we ask you, are you on gaff watch? because— we ask you, are you on gaff watch? because there really was a watch? because there really was o snooker— watch? because there really was a shocker yesterday in that pub nnen— a shocker yesterday in that pub nnen ne— a shocker yesterday in that pub when he talked— a shocker yesterday in that pub when he talked about a fifth nno— when he talked about a fifth cousin who he— when he talked about a fifth cousin who he said was in the teon— cousin who he said was in the teon nttnt— cousin who he said was in the team which flattened the black and team which flattened the black ont tons— team which flattened the black ont tons rugby— team which flattened the black and tans rugby team . whoops, he and tans rugby team. whoops, he neont— and tans rugby team. whoops, he neont tne— and tans rugby team. whoops, he neont tne att— and tans rugby team. whoops, he meant the all blacks. of course, and tans rugby team. whoops, he merblackt all blacks. of course, and tans rugby team. whoops, he merblack and blacks. of course, and tans rugby team. whoops, he merblack and tans(s. of course, and tans rugby team. whoops, he merblack and tans were course, and tans rugby team. whoops, he merblack and tans were the rse, the black and tans were the tngttsn— the black and tans were the english irish— the black and tans were the english irish soldiers put in tne— english irish soldiers put in tne tonot— english irish soldiers put in the royal irish— english irish soldiers put in the royal irish constabulary, tngttsn— the royal irish constabulary, english constabulary just disbanded— english constabulary just disbanded after over two years tese— disbanded after over two years ts ot— disbanded after over two years because of the— disbanded after over two years because of the violence against the because of the violence against tne cottons— because of the violence against the catholic community. yeah i tn tne— the catholic community. yeah i mean in the country for 24 hours ont— mean in the country for 24 hours ont ott— mean in the country for 24 hours ont ttt note— mean in the country for 24 hours and did make a— mean in the country for 24 hours and did make a pretty major gotte— and did make a pretty major gotte. os— and did make a pretty major gotte. os yon— and did make a pretty major gaffe, as you say, maybe talking otont— gaffe, as you say, maybe talking otont tne— gaffe, as you say, maybe talking about the new— gaffe, as you say, maybe talking about the new zealand rugby team tnonn— about the new zealand rugby team tnonn os— about the new zealand rugby team tnonn os tne— about the new zealand rugby team known as the all— about the new zealand rugby team known as the all blacks ended up totttng— known as the all blacks ended up totttng otont— known as the all blacks ended up totttng otont o— known as the all blacks ended up talking about a very controversial section of the

trtttsn— controversial section of the british - during - british military during the war of british military during the war ot—nere- british military during the wari of_here.|reland of independence here in ireland . rte— of independence here in ireland . tte ttoot— of independence here in ireland . the black and— of independence here in ireland . the black and tans,- of independence here in ireland . the black and tans, as you say, biden infamous for say, joe biden is infamous for making these gaffes. yes we are essentially on a gaffe watch . essentially on a gaffe watch. good. you know, he's 80 years old. he makes these mistakes sometimes . they're not great, sometimes. they're not great, are they? let's be honest about all of that. but also be in no doubt that there's a genuine sense of affection for him here in ireland. and i suspect we will see a lot of people on the streets welcoming the us president over the next 48 hours or so. all right, darren, that's darren mccaffrey. we'll with darren mccaffrey. we'll be with tonen— darren mccaffrey. we'll be with torren ogotn— darren mccaffrey. we'll be with darren again later— darren mccaffrey. we'll be with darren again later in— ';�*trit”ti;t“ r�*ii�*ilf.�*:t3�*n”li3gt we'll be with darren again later in the progen— darren again later in the tnognon. ton— darren again later in the program. now still to come, the store— program. now still to come, the stone retns— program. now still to come, the spare returns. harry's confirmed it's spare returns. harry's confirmed tt-s-ooronotton- spare returns. harry's confirmed it's-coronation, but- it's for the coronation, but soon.— it's for the coronation, but- sottn—oontng . sadly, meghan won't be coming. ntt— sadly, meghan won't be coming. nttt non— sadly, meghan won't be coming. not you rntss— sadly, meghan won't be coming. will you miss her?— sadly, meghan won't be coming. will you miss her? i won't . this will you miss her? i won't. this is will you miss her? i won't. this site— will you miss her? i won't. this tsltne notnt— will you miss her? i won't. this is.the point on— will you miss her? i won't. this is.the point on gb- will you miss her? i won't. this is the point on gb news, is to the point on gb news, trttotn-s— is to the point on gb news, britain's news—

channel. where i channel. where it's| i channel. . where it's 10 i channel.- where it's 10 am. | ctonnet.— where it's 10 am. good morning ont— where it's 10 am. good morning ont netorne— where it's 10 am. good morning and welcome to— where it's 10 am. good morning and welcome to the point on gb tens— and welcome to the point on gb tens nttn— and welcome to the point on gb tens nttn ne— and welcome to the point on gb news with me andrew pierce and tonn— news with me andrew pierce and town teeso — news with me andrew pierce and dawn neesom. \titt. ti“;”7 dawn neesom. thank you. not her? no dawn neesom. right. okay. thank you. that's even worse. harry is coming. meghan isn't. you're heartbroken. i know. devastated. the latest. will they, won't they? windsor saga is over. we have plenty of a riot. royal celebration . what's riot. royal celebration. what's that say on the build up to the royal coronation ? and joe biden, royal coronation? and joe biden, the royal coronation? and joe biden, tne tresttent— royal coronation? and joe biden, the president of— royal coronation? and joe biden, the president of the— 3 i7 and joe biden, the president of the united stotes— the president of the united stotes. nes— the president of the united states, he's going to address tne— states, he's going to address tne rtst— states, he's going to address the irish parliament this will cause even more— the irish parliament this will cause even more tension with the nntontst— cause even more tension with the unionist community. but we're going—

unionist community. but we're gotng to— unionist community. but we're gotng to te— unionist community. but we're going to be looking out for some gottes— going to be looking out for some more gaffes because there really was more gaffes because there really o snooker— more gaffes because there really was a shocker when got his was a shocker when he got his rugby_ was a shocker when he got his rugby teons— was a shocker when he got his rugby teams confused yesterday. to rugby teams confused yesterday. to te— rugby teams confused yesterday. to te totn— rugby teams confused yesterday. to te ton. to— rugby teams confused yesterday. to be fair, he was— rugby teams confused yesterday. to be fair, he was in— rugby teams confused yesterday. to be fair, he was in a— rugby teams confused yesterday. to be fair, he was in a pub,- rugby teams confused yesterday. to be fair, he was in a pub, but he doesn't so drink, he doesn't even drink. so drink, right. meanwhile, scotland's he doesn't even drink. so drink, right minister,|ile, scotland's he doesn't even drink. so drink, right minister, humzattland's he doesn't even drink. so drink, right minister, humza yousuf, is first minister, humza yousuf, is preparing constitutional preparing for a constitutional showdown uk government preparing for a constitutional showhis/n uk government preparing for a constitutional showhis bill uk government preparing for a constitutional showhis bill to uk government preparing for a constitutional showhis bill to allowk government preparing for a constitutional showhis bill to allow 16|overnment preparing for a constitutional show his bill to allow 16 year�*iment over his bill to allow 16 year olds actually 15.5 year olds to change their gender. mad, isn't it? and change their gender. mad, isn't to ant n-nee— change their gender. mad, isn't it? and we've got— change their gender. mad, isn't it? and we've got an— ig ”g: mad, isn't it? and we've got an exclusive reton— it? and we've got an exclusive reton on— it? and we've got an exclusive neton on o— it? and we've got an exclusive neton on o ttg— it? and we've got an exclusive report on a big rebellion ogotnst— report on a big rebellion against keir— report on a big rebellion against keir starmer. it's totonr— against keir starmer. it's labour activists over flip labour activists over his flip ttotttng— labour activists over his flip flopping transgender rights . flopping on transgender rights. and flopping on transgender rights. ant tt-s— flopping on transgender rights. ant tt-s tne— flopping on transgender rights. and it's the lgbt— flopping on transgender rights. and it's the lgbt activist who are and it's the lgbt activist who nern— and it's the lgbt activist who are very cross with him . but are very cross with him. but tnts— are very cross with him. but tnts ts— are very cross with him. but tnts ts not— are very cross with him. but this is not about— are very cross with him. but this is not about what we think. it's this is not about what we think. to otont— this is not about what we think. it's about what— this is not about what we think. it's about what you _ this is not about what we think. it's about what you think. - this is not about what we think. it's about what you think. so let us know what your thoughts are on all our talking points. email us at gb views at gbnews.uk. but first, here's your morning news with bethany elsey . thank you. good morning . elsey. thank you. good morning. it's 10:01. i'm elsey. thank you. good morning. it's10:01. i'm bethany elsey. thank you. good morning. it's 10:01. i'm bethany elsey it's10:01. i'm bethany elsey nttn— it's10:01. i'm bethany elsey nttn nonr— it's10:01. i'm bethany elsey nttn your top— it's10:01. i'm bethany elsey with your top stories from the

gb newsroom.— with your top stories from the gb newsroom. the uk economy ttottenet— gb newsroom. the uk economy ttottenet tn— gb newsroom. the uk economy flattened in february, showing no grontt— flattened in february, showing no growth. today's figures from the no growth. today's figures from tne otttoe — no growth. today's figures from the office for— no growth. today's figures from the office for national statistics— the office for national statistics reveal a 0.4% decrease in— statistics reveal a 0.4% decrease in gross domestic trotuot— decrease in gross domestic tnotuot tron— decrease in gross domestic product from january. the sense— product from january. the service sector— product from january. the service sector fell with the etteots— service sector fell with the etteots ot— service sector fell with the effects of strikes from teachers ont— effects of strikes from teachers ont ont— effects of strikes from teachers and civil servants— effects of strikes from teachers and civil servants to blame . the and civil servants to blame. the ons— and civil servants to blame. the one soys— and civil servants to blame. the one soys o— and civil servants to blame. the ons says a fall— and civil servants to blame. the ons says a fall in— and civil servants to blame. the ons says a fall in gas and eteotrto— ons says a fall in gas and electric usage— ons says a fall in gas and electric usage due to milder neotner— electric usage due to milder neotner nos— electric usage due to milder weather was also responsible . l. weather was also responsible. l. tut— weather was also responsible. l. tut tne— weather was also responsible. l. but the figures— weather was also responsible. l. but the figures do— weather was also responsible. l. but the figures do show gdp grew onto— but the figures do show gdp grew onto tn— but the figures do show gdp grew onto tn tne— but the figures do show gdp grew 0.1% in the three— but the figures do show gdp grew 0.1% in the three months to tetruory. — 0.1% in the three months to netnuony. tne— 0.1% in the three months to february. the chancellor, jeremy hunt.— february. the chancellor, jeremy nunt. soys— february. the chancellor, jeremy nunt. soys tnts— february. the chancellor, jeremy hunt, says this outlook was trtgnter— hunt, says this outlook was brighter than— hunt, says this outlook was brighter than expected and that the brighter than expected and that tne nt— brighter than expected and that tne nt ts— brighter than expected and that tne nt ts set— brighter than expected and that the uk is set to— brighter than expected and that the uk is set to avoid a recession. us- the uk is set to avoid a recession. us president joe ttten— recession. us president joe ttten ntt— recession. us president joe biden will address the irish parliament— biden will address the irish parliament today and meet with tootseoon— parliament today and meet with taoiseach leo— parliament today and meet with taoiseach leo varadkar as his ntstt— taoiseach leo varadkar as his ntstt to— taoiseach leo varadkar as his ntstt to tne— taoiseach leo varadkar as his visit to the island of ireland ontnues— visit to the island of ireland ontnues .— visit to the island of ireland continues . yesterday, thousands continues. yesterday, thousands gotneret— continues. yesterday, thousands gotneret to— continues. yesterday, thousands gathered to greet— continues. yesterday, thousands gathered to greet him on a tour of gathered to greet him on a tour ot nrs— gathered to greet him on a tour of his ancestors— gathered to greet him on a tour of his ancestors home county. in a of his ancestors home county. in o steeon— of his ancestors home county. in o steeon ot— of his ancestors home county. in o steeon ot o— of his ancestors home county. in o steeon ot o tut— of his ancestors home county. in a speech at a pub in county toutt— a speech at a pub in county toutn. ne— a speech at a pub in county louth, he said— a speech at a pub in county louth, he said visiting the area teets— louth, he said visiting the area teets ttte— louth, he said visiting the area feels like coming— louth, he said visiting the area feels like coming home. the tresttent— feels like coming home. the president will— feels like coming home. the

president will spend three days in president will spend three days tn tne— president will spend three days in the republic— president will spend three days in the republic of ireland after nontng— in the republic of ireland after nontng spent— in the republic of ireland after nontng stent o— in the republic of ireland after having spent a short time in tonnern— having spent a short time in northern ireland to mark the tstn— northern ireland to mark the 25th anniversary— northern ireland to mark the 25th anniversary of the good trttoy— 25th anniversary of the good friday agreement . . t3 25th anniversary of the good friday agreement . . 3 friday agreement. it i said last ttne— friday agreement. it i said last ttne t— friday agreement. it i said last time i was here is in a sense i know why my ancestors and many of your relatives left during the famine and but you know , the famine and but you know, when you're here, you wonder why anyone would ever want to leave. i mean, it. so it's good to be back. 74 i mean, it. so it's good to be back . 74 year i mean, it. so it's good to be back. 74 year old man has been extrotttet— back. 74 year old man has been extradited from _ i 74 year old man has been extradited from pakistan and snorget— extradited from pakistan and ononget nttn— extradited from pakistan and charged with the murder of a tenote— charged with the murder of a female police— charged with the murder of a female police officer over 17 yeors— female police officer over 17 yeors ogo— female police officer over 17 yeors ogo. ss— female police officer over 17 years ago. 38 year old pc sharon testy— years ago. 38 year old pc sharon testy tonton — years ago. 38 year old pc sharon becky nowicki was— years ago. 38 year old pc sharon becky nowicki was shot in 2005 nntte— becky nowicki was shot in 2005 while responding— becky nowicki was shot in 2005 while responding to a robbery in trottort— while responding to a robbery in bradford. piran— while responding to a robbery in bradford. piran ditta khan is tue— bradford. piran ditta khan is tue to— bradford. piran ditta khan is tue to otteor— bradford. piran ditta khan is due to appear at westminster nogtstrotes— due to appear at westminster magistrates court later. police ntt— magistrates court later. police nttt spent— magistrates court later. police will spend less— magistrates court later. police will spend less time dealing nttn— will spend less time dealing nttn sootot— will spend less time dealing with social media spats and more ttne— with social media spats and more ttne nestonttng— with social media spats and more time responding to— with social media spats and more time responding to crime on the streets— time responding to crime on the streets ont— time responding to crime on the streets ont o— time responding to crime on the streets and a new— time responding to crime on the

streets and a new home office ttons— streets and a new home office plans officers— streets and a new home office plans officers will— streets and a new home office plans officers will only have to neont— plans officers will only have to record social— plans officers will only have to record social media cases if tney— record social media cases if tney ross— record social media cases if they cross the _ record social media cases if they cross the criminal threshold _ they cross the criminal threshold .— they cross the criminal threshold . the move is part of a threshold. the move is part of a ot— threshold. the move is part of a series of measures— threshold. the move is part of a series of measures to cut what tne— series of measures to cut what tne government— series of measures to cut what the government has called unnecessary red tape . the unnecessary red tape. the tottonot— unnecessary red tape. the national police- unnecessary red tape. the national police chiefs council soys— national police chiefs council says more than— national police chiefs council says more than 440,000 officer tours— says more than 440,000 officer hours are spent— says more than 440,000 officer hours are spent on— says more than 440,000 officer hours are spent on unnecessary otntn— hours are spent on unnecessary otntn tosts— hours are spent on unnecessary admin tasks. policing minister cnrts— admin tasks. policing minister cnrts nttn— admin tasks. policing minister chris philp told— admin tasks. policing minister chris philp told us it's the ntgnt— chris philp told us it's the ntgnt stet— chris philp told us it's the right step forward. the public extent— right step forward. the public exteot tne— right step forward. the public expect the police to be catching ortntnots— expect the police to be catching criminals and— expect the police to be catching criminals and keeping them safe and criminals and keeping them safe ont tnot-s— criminals and keeping them safe and that's what— criminals and keeping them safe and that's what these changes are and that's what these changes testgnet— and that's what these changes are designed to— and that's what these changes are designed to help do. \: are designed to help do. nobody nonto— are designed to help do. nobody nonts tne— are designed to help do. nobody wants the police to be wasting time on unnecessary paperwork. of course you've got keep of course you've got to keep proper records, obviously, but it's too far and we're it's got a bit too far and we're tipping balance back . and tipping the balance back. and i think saving nearly half 1,000,000 hours a year of police time step time is a really important step forward boat crossings forward. small boat crossings have caused a sharp increase in diptheria cases in the uk and europe. that's according to the turoteon— europe. that's according to the european society— europe. that's according to the european society of— .. that's according to the european society of clinical ntonottotogy— european society of clinical microbiology and infectious ttseose— microbiology and infectious disease. scientists say outbreaks— disease. scientists say outbreaks in- disease. scientists say outbreaks in the past year have

teen— outbreaks in the past year have teen nostty— outbreaks in the past year have been mostly linked to incoming ntgronts— been mostly linked to incoming ntgronts .— been mostly linked to incoming ntgronts . tne— been mostly linked to incoming migrants . the bma has formally migrants. the bma has formally osteo— migrants. the bma has formally ostet tne— migrants. the bma has formally asked the government to enter totts— asked the government to enter totts to— asked the government to enter totts to nett— asked the government to enter talks to help end— asked the government to enter talks to help end the junior doctors— talks to help end the junior tootons toy— talks to help end the junior doctors pay dispute. it comes as tnousonts— doctors pay dispute. it comes as tnousonts ot— doctors pay dispute. it comes as thousands of junior— doctors pay dispute. it comes as thousands of junior doctors in tngtont— thousands of junior doctors in tngtont nott— thousands of junior doctors in england walk out for a third of tour— england walk out for a third of tour toys— england walk out for a third of tour toys ot— england walk out for a third of four days of industrial action. tnts— four days of industrial action. tnts neet. — four days of industrial action. this week. downing street have retuset— this week. downing street have retuset to— this week. downing street have refused to negotiate unless the tna— refused to negotiate unless the bma abandons— refused to negotiate unless the bma abandons demands of a 35% pay bma abandons demands of a 35% toy rtse— bma abandons demands of a 35% toy tonott— bma abandons demands of a 35% pay rise. donald trump is suing his pay rise. donald trump is suing nts tore— pay rise. donald trump is suing his former lawyer,— pay rise. donald trump is suing his former lawyer, michael conen— his former lawyer, michael conen tor— his former lawyer, michael cohen, for £400 million. the tone— cohen, for £400 million. the teen ns— cohen, for £400 million. the former us president is seeking tonoges— former us president is seeking tonoges otter— former us president is seeking damages after cohen testified teone— damages after cohen testified tetore tne— damages after cohen testified before the manhattan grand jury that indicted— before the manhattan grand jury that indicted him.— before the manhattan grand jury that indicted him. trump has ooouset— that indicted him. trump has accused cohen— that indicted him. trump has accused cohen of failing to noour— accused cohen of failing to honour attorney— accused cohen of failing to honour attorney client confidentiality. and for tnottttng— confidentiality. and for profiting by— confidentiality. and for profiting by spreading falsehoods— profiting by spreading falsehoods about him in books ont— falsehoods about him in books ont totoosts— falsehoods about him in books ont totoosts .— falsehoods about him in books and podcasts . cohen's lawyer and podcasts. cohen's lawyer oottet— and podcasts. cohen's lawyer oottet tne— and podcasts. cohen's lawyer called the lawsuit frivolous , called the lawsuit frivolous, conventng— called the lawsuit frivolous, converting homes into short term totttoy.— converting homes into short term totttoy. tets— converting homes into short term holiday. lets will— converting homes into short term holiday. lets will require ttonntng— holiday. lets will require planning permission under new government— planning permission under new government plans. it's part of a oroottonn— government plans. it's part of a oroottonn on— government plans. it's part of a crackdown on residents being tustet— crackdown on residents being tusnet out—

crackdown on residents being tusnet out ot— crackdown on residents being pushed out of their towns . the pushed out of their towns. the rentot— pushed out of their towns. the rentot stte— pushed out of their towns. the rental site airbnb_ pushed out of their towns. the rental site airbnb has welcomed the rental site airbnb has welcomed tne oe— rental site airbnb has welcomed tne tut— rental site airbnb has welcomed the move but warned they must be the move but warned they must be tne ntgnt— the move but warned they must be the right balance— the move but warned they must be the right balance between tnoteottng— the right balance between protecting housing and suppovfi'hj— protecting housing and supporting families who let tner— supporting families who let tnetr stone— supporting families who let their space to— supporting families who let their space to make a living. trttotn— their space to make a living. trttotn s— their space to make a living. britain s largest— their space to make a living. britain s largest and busiest stotton— britain s largest and busiest stotton .— britain s largest and busiest station , london— britain s largest and busiest station , london waterloo, has station, london waterloo, has teen— station, london waterloo, has teen tnongnt— station, london waterloo, has been brought to— station, london waterloo, has been brought to a standstill onto— been brought to a standstill onto o— been brought to a standstill onto o onto— been brought to a standstill amid a major signalling problem. soutn— amid a major signalling problem. south western— amid a major signalling problem. south western railway is warning rnrnueots to— south western railway is warning commuters to avoid the station nttn— commuters to avoid the station with widespread _ commuters to avoid the station with widespread disruption and a stgntttoont— with widespread disruption and a significant reduced service. tngtneers— significant reduced service. tngtneers ore— significant reduced service. engineers are working to restore the engineers are working to restore tne tssue— engineers are working to restore tne .— engineers are working to restore tne . tut— engineers are working to restore the issue , but disruption is the issue, but disruption is exteotet— the issue, but disruption is exteotet to— the issue, but disruption is expected to last for most of the day— expected to last for most of the toy .— expected to last for most of the toy . ant— expected to last for most of the toy . ant tne — expected to last for most of the day . and the royal mint is set day. and the royal mint is set to reetose— day. and the royal mint is set to reetose o— day. and the royal mint is set to release a new— day. and the royal mint is set to release a new range of commemorative coins featuring a sronnet— commemorative coins featuring a sronnet tonrott— commemorative coins featuring a crowned portrait of— commemorative coins featuring a crowned portrait of the king. for crowned portrait of the king. tor tne— crowned portrait of the king. tor tne nery— crowned portrait of the king. for the very first— crowned portrait of the king. for the very first time, the sottestton— for the very first time, the collection depicts king charles iii, collection depicts king charles tn. neortng— collection depicts king charles iii, wearing the— collection depicts king charles iii, wearing the tudor crown, nntsn— iii, wearing the tudor crown, nntsn ne— iii, wearing the tudor crown, which he personally chose for the which he personally chose for tne tonrott— which he personally chose for tne tonrott o— which he personally chose for the portrait a £0.50 and a £5 sotn— the portrait a £0.50 and a £5 ntt— the portrait a £0.50 and a £5 nttt te— the portrait a £0.50 and a £5 coin will be released later this nontn— coin will be released later this nontn oneot— coin will be released later this month ahead of— coin will be released later this month ahead of the coronation in may— month ahead of the coronation in noy .— month ahead of the coronation in noy . tnts— month ahead of the coronation in noy . tnts ts— month ahead of the coronation in noy . tnts ts st— month ahead of the coronation in may . this is gb news. we'll may. this is gb news. we'll tntng— may. this is gb news. we'll tntng you— may. this is gb news. we'll bring you more— may. this is gb news. we'll bring you more news as it tottens— bring you more news as it tottens. non— bring you more news as it happens. now it's back to andrew

and happens. now it's back to andrew ont tonn— happens. now it's back to andrew ont tonn .— and dawn. where will it is and dawn.- where will it is the ont tonn. — where will it is the big story ont— where will it is the big story and everyone's_ where will it is the big story and everyone's talking about it ont— and everyone's talking about it ont tney— and everyone's talking about it ont tney ore— and everyone's talking about it and they are flooding in the enotts— and they are flooding in the emails, tweets— and they are flooding in the emails, tweets and texts. [titty emails, tweets and texts. jenny soys— emails, tweets and texts. jenny soys. ant— emails, tweets and texts. jenny soys. ant t— emails, tweets and texts. jenny says. and i really— emails, tweets and texts. jenny says. and i really think this is quite a significant message, jenny, she says, wish the jenny, she says, i wish the father coming either. father wasn't coming either. there's no reconciliation on the horizon. coming to get horizon. he's coming to get content failing content for his failing brand. this a state occasion, not this is a state occasion, not family albie therapy. well, absolutely. i agree. i'm pleased for absolutely. i agree. i'm pleased tor ttng— absolutely. i agree. i'm pleased for king charles— absolutely. i agree. i'm pleased for king charles that— .tigt i agree. i'm pleased for king charles that harry is going— for king charles that harry is gotng to— for king charles that harry is gotng to te— for king charles that harry is going to be there because i tntnt— going to be there because i tntnt tt— going to be there because i tntnt tt ts— going to be there because i think it is important. and i tntnt— think it is important. and i think charles— think it is important. and i think charles has offered more tnon— think charles has offered more tnon enougn— think charles has offered more than enough olive branches to be torn.— than enough olive branches to be torn. t— than enough olive branches to be torn. t neon— than enough olive branches to be fair. i mean, even— than enough olive branches to be fair. i mean, even in— than enough olive branches to be fair. i mean, even in his first seen.— fair. i mean, even in his first steesn ne— fair. i mean, even in his first speech, he sort— fair. i mean, even in his first speech, he sort of- fair. i mean, even in his first speech, he sort of like, you tnon— speech, he sort of like, you know. tony— speech, he sort of like, you know, harry and- speech, he sort of like, you know, harry and meghan love tnen— know, harry and meghan love tnen. tney-re— know, harry and meghan love them. they're making their own way— them. they're making their own noylanertso.— them. they're making their own way america, etcetera. but way in america, etcetera. but tnere-s— way in america, etcetera. but tnere-s-ot- way in america, etcetera. but there's-of love- way in america, etcetera. but there's-of love in. way in america, etcetera. but there's of love in the there's not a lot of love in the —tron i there's not a lot of love in the room _from the room at the moment from the viewers-that— room at the moment from the viewers..that i— room at the moment from the viewers. that i mean. helen viewers. is that i mean. helen soot—teen.- viewers. is that i mean. helen. soot-teen-you good morning, helen. thank you for good morning, helen. thank you ton getttng— good morning, helen. thank you ton getttng tn— good morning, helen. thank you for getting in touch. helen says tony— for getting in touch. helen says nonny onntntng— for getting in touch. helen says harry arriving in— for getting in touch. helen says harry arriving in uk is

harry arriving in the uk is a goot— harry arriving in the uk is a goot tntng.— harry arriving in the uk is a good thing..will- harry arriving in the uk is a good thing. will him good thing. it will give him ttne— good thing. it will give him ttne-out- good thing. it will give him time -out his- good thing. it will give him time out his and m's time to clear out his and m's tersonot— time to clear out his and m's personal stuff— time to clear out his and m's personal stuff and the windsor otote— personal stuff and the windsor otote .— personal stuff and the windsor otote . neten— personal stuff and the windsor abode , helen cutting and john abode, helen cutting and john soys— abode, helen cutting and john soys tet-s— abode, helen cutting and john says, let's have— abode, helen cutting and john says, let's have harry and negnon-s— says, let's have harry and meghan's titles- says, let's have harry and meghan's titles taken away. �*7 meghan's titles taken away. if our meghan's titles taken away. if royotty— meghan's titles taken away. if our royalty wants— meghan's titles taken away. if our royalty wants to - meghan's titles taken away. if our royalty wants to continue. so the sooner they dump this poisonous pair, the better. charles needs to get real and put his whinging son into place. oh yeah. not a lot. as i said, tttstort— oh yeah. not a lot. as i said, richard, this— oh yeah. not a lot. as i said, richard, this is— oh yeah. not a lot. as i said, richard, this is an— oh yeah. not a lot. as i said, richard, this is an interesting onet— richard, this is an interesting tttstort— richard, this is an interesting one, richard. i've— richard, this is an interesting one, richard. i've been thinking tnts—ty— one, richard. i've been thinking tnts—ty tne- one, richard. i've been thinking tnts—ty tne wayrl this as well, but by the way, goot— this as well, but by the way, good-to— this as well, but by the way, goot-to you. - this as well, but by the way, goot-to you. t- this as well, but by the way, good to you. it will this as well, but by the way,- good -to you. it will be good morning to you. it will be tnteresttng— good morning to you. it will be tnteresttng to— good morning to you. it will be interesting to see— good morning to you. it will be interesting to see if netflix nttn— interesting to see if netflix come with him.— interesting to see if netflix come with him. maybe they need ore—ne- more money. yeah look, we tontttes— more money. yeah look, we tonnes-.- more money. yeah look, we families-, okay?- more money. yeah look, we families , okay? we more money. yeah look, we- families-, okay? we know families fall out, okay? we know ttot— families fall out, okay? we know tnot. ant— families fall out, okay? we know tnot. ant tt-s— families fall out, okay? we know that. and it's always difficult nnetner—or- that. and it's always difficulti whether—or not. whether you're a royal or not. tut— whether you're a royal or not. tut tt— whether you're a royal or not. tut tt you— whether you're a royal or not. but if you were— whether you're a royal or not. but if you were william or the ttng— but if you were william or the ttng or— but if you were william or the ttng on ony— but if you were william or the ttng on ony ot— but if you were william or the king or any of the— but if you were william or the king or any of the royal family, you-t— king or any of the royal family, you-t te— king or any of the royal family, you'd be terrified— king or any of the royal family, you'd be terrified to say onytntng— you'd be terrified to say anything more than good morning to ste-s— anything more than good morning to sne-s tottng— anything more than good morning to she's taping them. o” t“ i to she's taping them. or in case tnere-s— to she's taping them. or in case there's camera crew, i know there's a camera crew, i know you'd another book out of. you'd get another book out of. just morning. how are you? just good morning. how are you? neon.— just good morning. how are you? neotlsusrest— just good morning. how are you? yeah,lsuspect prince— just good morning. how are you? yeah,lsuspect prince harry- yeah, i suspect prince harry will in britain about as will be in britain for about as long as biden was in northern ireland, which was 16 hours. most of that was in bed. and as i made the point when he's not

in bed, he's asleep on the job anyway. biden we are not going to harry well, he'll to see much of harry well, he'll be getting the eco warrior, obviously be getting the private jet out. yeah, well, jet in and out. yeah, well, we're talking— jet in and out. yeah, well, we're talking about- t“ it“: yeah, well, we're talking about this. �*vint�*ti; ”ti; we're talking about this. we're going— we're talking about this. we're gotng to— we're talking about this. we're gotng to totttng— we're talking about this. we're going to talking about all this we're talking about this. we're goin is:o talking about all this we're talking about this. we're goin is:o ta royal about all this we're talking about this. we're goin is:o ta royal commentator, now is our royal commentator, charles rea, who dawn and i have known for many years. known for many, many years. morning, morning. morning, charles. good morning. both. morning, young man. both. good morning, young man. is this the is this-best- is this the is this the best oornntrntse— is this the is this the best compromise, think is this the is this the best. compromise,-think ? is this the is this the best- compromise,-think ? this compromise, do you think? this is compromise, do you think? this ts o— compromise, do you think? this to o son— compromise, do you think? this is a 50% result— compromise, do you think? this is a 50% result for— compromise, do you think? this is a 50% result for britain and the monarchy, that she's not coming ? i mean, he'll be here. coming? i mean, he'll be here. and as you've already discussed , especially with michael cole, it was right for him to be here. he is the king's son and he should be here. but this this excuse that they've come up with , which is supposed to be a major factor that she's staying behind because this is archie's birthday . well, we've known it's birthday. well, we've known it's been archie's birthday for four years on the may the 6th. it's not suddenly cropped up. they're not suddenly cropped up. they're not suddenly cropped up. they're not suddenly just remembered that it's birthday. um that it's his birthday. um i firmly believe that she is not coming because she will not be

welcome in this country and certainly won't be welcomed within the royal family, you know, and people who start talking about reconciliation and, you know, chats and there's never going to be a reconciliation . you cannot slag reconciliation. you cannot slag off the royal family and britain as a racist, organised both racist organisations and then expect everybody just to sort of say, oh, well yeah, you probably may have a point and everything else, it's okay, no best thing for is to away. but the for her is to stay away. but the one i'd like to say about one thing i'd like to say about the kids is it's a great shame that she cannot have brought the children what fantastic children over. what a fantastic birthday present it would have been for little archie. have been for little archie. have beenin been for little archie. have been in the city to watch his grandfather father being crowned king. he will never, ever see that again. charles, we were talking about that. we were saying, how talking about that. we were soytng. non ts— talking about that. we were saying, how is they?- “g we were saying, how is they? how is they non— saying, how is they? how is they non ore— saying, how is they? how is they non tney— saying, how is they? how is they how are they going— saying, how is they? how is they how are they going to explain to tner— how are they going to explain to their children— how are they going to explain to their children why— how are they going to explain to their children why they're not in their children why they're not tn tnese — their children why they're not in these historic— their children why they're not in these historic photographs of the in these historic photographs of tne ttrst— in these historic photographs of the first coronation in this sountry—nneni country since 1953, when their cousins are all— country since 1953, when their cousins are all the photo and

cousins are all in the photo and tney— cousins are all in the photo and tney ore— cousins are all in the photo and they are prince— cousins are all in the photo and they are prince and— cousins are all in the photo and they are prince and princess and tney— they are prince and princess and tney-ont— they are prince and princess and they-and princess. l they are prince and princess. they— they are prince and princess. ttey- ant— they are prince and princess. ttey- ant tney- they are prince and princess. 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didn't we i asking their parents one day, excuse didn't we go to excuse me, why didn't we go to we— excuse me, why didn't we go to ewe-greet— excuse me, why didn't we go to this-great event,- excuse me, why didn't we go to this great event, this this this this great event, this historic— this this this great event, this historic event— this this this great event, this historic event that they could have — historic event that they could have had— historic event that they could have had bragging rights for at school— have had bragging rights for at school and— have had bragging rights for at school and everything else, and rightw— school and everything else, and rightly ee— school and everything else, and rightly so .— school and everything else, and rightly so . w— school and everything else, and rightly so . i mean,— school and everything else, and rightly so . i mean, it's just, rightly so. i mean, it's just, you— rightly so. i mean, it's just, you knew,— rightly so. i mean, it's just, you knew, rm— rightly so. i mean, it's just, you know, i'm just glad she's wee— you know, i'm just glad she's not coming,— you know, i'm just glad she's not coming, unfortunately, the peewewe— not coming, unfortunately, the petulant prince— not coming, unfortunately, the petulant prince is he's going to be here. — petulant prince is he's going to be here. .— petulant prince is he's going to be bere. . sav— petulant prince is he's going to be here. i say that, unfortunately. but of course, be here. i say that,— unfortunately. but of course, he ebewbb— unfortunately. but of course, he ebewbb be— unfortunately. but of course, he should be here.— unfortunately. but of course, he should be here. yeah. charles do you— should be here. yeah. charles do you-i— should be here. yeah. charles do web-b webb— should be here. yeah. charles do you-i mean, there- should be here. yeah. charles do you i mean, there you you think i mean, there is you knew,— you think i mean, there is you know, are-doing- you think i mean, there is you know, are-doing it- you think i mean, there is you know, are doing it out of know, are they doing it out of respect— know, are they doing it out of respect 7 — know, are they doing it out of reebeeb e abe— know, are they doing it out of respect .7 are-doing- know, are they doing it out of respect .7 ' ”c: 2::: g c know, are they doing it out of. respect .7 are-doing it out respect? are they doing it out of a way to even get more pubuchy of a way to even get more publicity by not coming? are

publicity by not coming? or are they meghan not they doing or is meghan not coming she is frightened they doing or is meghan not co being she is frightened they doing or is meghan not co being booed? she is frightened they doing or is meghan not co being booed? ihe is frightened they doing or is meghan not co being booed? i personallyaned of being booed? i personally don't would don't think the british would boo coronation . i'm boo anyone. a coronation. i'm not so sure. do i think they mbebw— not so sure. do i think they mbgbwlb-m— not so sure. do i think they might,.|'m not- not so sure. do i think they might,.|'m not so- ”c: do i think they might, i'm not so sure. might, so i'm not so sure. bob-b— might, so i'm not so sure. bob-b web— might, so i'm not so sure. don't you know,— might, so i'm not so sure. don't you know, with- might, so i'm not so sure. don't you know, with the things that have been said by her in particular, know , about the particular, you know, about the british public, this racist pubuc british public, this racist public and everything else? i'm not so sure that there will not be the odd boo. i agree with what andrew said earlier on. i think it was you, john, that people won't boo in church because that's that's a matter completely of disrespect. but let's not forget the streets outside side are going to be jam packed with hundreds of thousands of people , you know, thousands of people, you know, who will want a glimpse of not only just the king and the queen, but the one glimpse of the royals and yeah, the odd boo may have happened if meghan may well have happened if meghan were to be in that sort of procession, which i don't think there were going to be in any case. but no, i think the case. but no, i think it's the right thing her to stay away right thing for her to stay away . be quite happy if she . i'd be quite happy if she neven . i'd be quite happy if she never, came on these shows, never, ever came on these shows, ever that's what

ever again. charles that's what i ever again. charles that's what b-b— ever again. charles that's what b-b beb- — ever again. charles that's what b-b beb- be— ever again. charles that's what i-to ask. do-think. ever again. charles that's whati i-to ask. do .think we i wanted to ask. do you think we wbbb— i wanted to ask. do you think we wbbb-eee— i wanted to ask. do you think we will-see meghan— i wanted to ask. do you think we will-see meghan on- i wanted to ask. do you think we will see meghan on these will ever see meghan on these bee— will ever see meghan on these be again?— will ever see meghan on these shores again? i— will ever see meghan on these shores again? i can't see. i ebb-b— shores again? i can't see. i ebb-b bbbbb— shores again? i can't see. i can't think of— shores again? i can't see. i can't think of anything that she and harry will be involved in in the future. royal wise . that the future. royal wise. that would require her attendance. you know that. she's got everything she wants . she's got everything she wants. she's got a royal title. you know, she's got children now who've got royal royal titles. oh, correct . i'm not saying anything's wrong with it. all correct. but she's using it, you know, to further her own nest, to feather her own nest, using royal connections , which she hates so connections, which she hates so much, but she uses them to end a lot of money. you're right . much, but she uses them to end a lot of money. you're right. he bebbe— lot of money. you're right. he bebbe b— lot of money. you're right. he bebbe b be— lot of money. you're right. he bebbe b be be— lot of money. you're right. he tells it as it is.— i�*ib�*b; you're right. he tells it as it is. charles, webbe— tells it as it is. charles, thanks for— tells it as it is. charles, thanks for joining us. tells it as it is. charles, thanks forjoining us. that's the— thanks forjoining us. that's the royal— thanks forjoining us. that's the royal commentator charles bee. — the royal commentator charles bee. .— the royal commentator charles bee. . knew. — the royal commentator charles rea. i know. very— the royal commentator charles rea. 32 rea. i know. very good. very honest as well. but i think, you know, going on what what you're telling us this morning, there's a of strong feeling and a lot of very strong feeling and not positive. we haven't not much positive. we haven't had not much positive. we haven't bee-beveb-b— not much positive. we haven't had-haven't had- not much positive. we haven't had-haven't had any. had who we haven't had any web— had who we haven't had any tweets .texts _ had who we haven't had any tweets texts from people tweets or texts from people eewbg — tweets or texts from people. saying -disappointed saying i'm really disappointed ebe-e—be- saying i'm really disappointed she's—be there. . she's not going to be there. bowe— she's not going to be there. were-beb- she's not going to be there. you're-tell us,- she's not going to be there.| you're-tell us, are you're out there. tell us, are you— you're out there. tell us, are you disappointed— you're out there. tell us, are you disappointed ? rac views, you disappointed? rac gb views, i'm you disappointed? rac gb views,

b-m —wew— you disappointed? rac gb views, b-m —wew . - you disappointed? rac gb views, b-m—wew. bee-e- you disappointed? rac gb views, i'm _way. let's telll i'm not. by the way. let's tell bbem — i'm not. by the way. let's tell them how gbviews@gbnews.uk so get in touch. let us know. do you want meghan over here? are you want meghan over here? are you pleased she's not coming? are you sad that the children aren't going to be there for their grandad's? i'm sad for the wee. — their grandad's? i'm sad for the wee. b-m— their grandad's? i'm sad for the wee. b-m ebb— their grandad's? i'm sad for the kids. i'm sad for— their grandad's? i'm sad for the kids. i'm sad for the— 2 322 57 i'm sad for the kids. i'm sad for the kids as web. — kids. i'm sad for the kids as web. ebb— kids. i'm sad for the kids as well. bit of— kids. i'm sad for the kids as well. bit of history,- kids. i'm sad for the kids as well. c " 5&3 well. bit of history, soppy, right? okay. we do move on. the scottish government under new leader humza yousaf will challenge uk government's challenge the uk government's use sex 35 of the scotland use of sex 35 of the scotland act. effective albie. what he's doing act. effective albie. what he's bebbe ebe— act. effective albie. what he's bebbg bbe ew— act. effective albie. what he's doing the new first— wt �*"�*"bi;wt.c what he's doing the new first minister. we-e— doing the new first minister. we-e beebbwg— doing the new first minister. he's keeping going with nicola swweeew-e— he's keeping going with nicola sturgeon's completely barmy plan to sturgeon's completely barmy plan b-ebbbbwew— sturgeon's completely barmy plan to-children as— sturgeon's completely barmy plan to children as young as to allow children as young as be— to allow children as young as bblebewge— to allow children as young as 15.5-change their- to allow children as young as 15.5 change their gender 15.5 to change their gender wbwbeww— 15.5 to change their gender without even— 15.5 to change their gender without even consulting a doctor . awe— without even consulting a doctor . awe w— without even consulting a doctor .awb w ewebeeb— without even consulting a doctor . and i suspect even there bewewbe. — . and i suspect even there parents. well,— . and i suspect even there parents. well, absolutely . parents. well, absolutely. webb— parents. well, absolutely. beeb. w— parents. well, absolutely. yeah. i mean,— parents. well, absolutely. yeah. i mean, it's- parents. well, absolutely. “411?" " c parents. well, absolutely. yeah. i mean, it's scary and, you know, i think it's like it's like a month and then you can just suddenly decide if you're over the age of 18, that you are the opposite gender and that gives access to this safe gives you access to this safe spaces , doesn't it? right. okay. spaces, doesn't it? right. okay. well, all latest well, let's get all the latest on one from professor of on this one from professor of politics at the university of strathclyde, sir john curtice,

who us now from glasgow . who joins us now from glasgow. good morning, sir. john, thank you very much for joining us. good morning, sir. john, thank you very much forjoining us. so what do you make of, you you very much forjoining us. so what do you make of , you know, what do you make of, you know, this being challenged? i mean, surely there are more worthy fights that the snp could be carrying out at the moment? to be honest, i don't think wtws”w w2 7 to be honest, i don't think you ebewbb— be honest, i don't think you ebewbb be— be honest, i don't think you should be surprised that the ebebbewge— should be surprised that the challenge has— should be surprised that the challenge has come . �*vw�*bi; challenge has come. we have to remember here that the ground of the challenge have nothing to do with the intrinsic merits of proposals and it's certainly the case that, you know, if the snp or the scottish government were trying to choose an issue on which they might think it to their advantage to challenge the uk government in this way , this uk government in this way, this is not one they would choose because we know that public opinion is not terribly keen on. the changes to the scottish bewbemewb— the changes to the scottish parliament passed and even emewgeb— parliament passed and even emengeb swe— parliament passed and even amongst snp supporters the issue is amongst snp supporters the issue be bweww— amongst snp supporters the issue is pretty controversial. however, there is a very wmbewebb— however, there is a very important legal issue here. the ewee— important legal issue here. the web— important legal issue here. the issue that will— important legal issue here. the issue that will go— important legal issue here. the issue that will go before the cow— issue that will go before the eewb be—

issue that will go before the eewb be beb— issue that will go before the court is not whether or not 16 or b— court is not whether or not 16 or b year— court is not whether or not 16 or 17 year olds— court is not whether or not 16 or 17 year olds should be ebbeweb— or 17 year olds should be allowed to— or 17 year olds should be allowed to change their gender or any— allowed to change their gender or any of— allowed to change their gender or any of be— allowed to change their gender or any of the other aspects of be— or any of the other aspects of be bbbb. — or any of the other aspects of be bbbb. bbe— or any of the other aspects of the bill. the issue _ or any of the other aspects of the bill. the issue that will go before— the bill. the issue that will go before ebe— the bill. the issue that will go before the court— the bill. the issue that will go before the court is— the bill. the issue that will go before the court is whether or web— before the court is whether or new be — before the court is whether or not the secretary— before the court is whether or not the secretary of state has weeeewebbe— not the secretary of state has reasonable grounds. that's the web— reasonable grounds. that's the web ewwebeb— reasonable grounds. that's the first crucial criteria in to bebbewe— first crucial criteria in to believe that _ first crucial criteria in to believe that the legislation wbbb— believe that the legislation wbbb beve— believe that the legislation will have an— believe that the legislation will have an adverse effect. bbeb-e— will have an adverse effect. were ebe— will have an adverse effect. that's the other— will have an adverse effect. that's the other crucial ewwewe— that's the other crucial criteria on _ that's the other crucial criteria on the operation of uk wbbe— criteria on the operation of uk wide legislation,— criteria on the operation of uk wide legislation, viz the uk bqwebbee— wide legislation, viz the uk equalities act,— wide legislation, viz the uk equalities act, because nobody is equalities act, because nobody we arguing— equalities act, because nobody is arguing about— equalities act, because nobody is arguing about whether or not the is arguing about whether or not be seewbeb— is arguing about whether or not the scottish parliament did or did the scottish parliament did or be new— the scottish parliament did or be new beve— the scottish parliament did or did not have the— the scottish parliament did or did not have the right to pass beebebebew— did not have the right to pass legislation about— did not have the right to pass legislation about transgender weeeewbbbw— legislation about transgender weeegwbbew .— legislation about transgender recognition . the— legislation about transgender recognition . the argument is recognition. the argument is about— recognition. the argument is ebeww ebe— recognition. the argument is about the interaction between the scottish. _ about the interaction between the scottish. the— about the interaction between the scottish. the scottish parliament— the scottish. the scottish parliament is— the scottish. the scottish parliament is done and existing uk parliament is done and existing uw bew— parliament is done and existing uw bew .— parliament is done and existing uw bew . awe— parliament is done and existing uk law . and the— parliament is done and existing uk law . and the honest truth is uk law. and the honest truth is wbew— uk law. and the honest truth is we we— uk law. and the honest truth is we we be— uk law. and the honest truth is that this is irrespective of web— that this is irrespective of their political— that this is irrespective of their political stance , as any their political stance, as any web— their political stance, as any scottish first— their political stance, as any scottish first minister when fece— scottish first minister when beee b,— scottish first minister when face it, with— scottish first minister when face it, with the— scottish first minister when face it, with the use of a power

for face it, with the use of a power few ebe— face it, with the use of a power few the web— face it, with the use of a power for the first time— face it, with the use of a power for the first time by the uk eewewwmewb— for the first time by the uk eewewwmeww .— for the first time by the uk government , where perhaps there government, where perhaps there is government, where perhaps there be bobbe— government, where perhaps there is some doubt about whether or not is some doubt about whether or new bbeee— is some doubt about whether or not those criteria _ is some doubt about whether or not those criteria are being eebbebbeb— not those criteria are being satisfied is— not those criteria are being satisfied is almost bound to bake— satisfied is almost bound to bake bbe— satisfied is almost bound to take the issue— satisfied is almost bound to take the issue to court. because in take the issue to court. because be be— take the issue to court. because be be ebb— take the issue to court. because in the end you're— take the issue to court. because in the end you're talking about bebebbbwe— in the end you're talking about bebebbbwe bbe— in the end you're talking about defending the rights, responsibilities and authority of responsibilities and authority bbwbe— responsibilities and authority of the institution of which you are of the institution of which you be— of the institution of which you bw ebewee— of the institution of which you are in charge. so— of the institution of which you are in charge. so i— of the institution of which you are in charge. so i don't think you— are in charge. so i don't think you ebewbb— are in charge. so i don't think you ebewbb be— are in charge. so i don't think you should be surprised that we— you should be surprised that be beee— you should be surprised that this issue is— you should be surprised that this issue is going to be taken to this issue is going to be taken be eewb— this issue is going to be taken be eewb . — this issue is going to be taken be eewb . b— this issue is going to be taken be eewb. b eeb— this issue is going to be taken to court. i get that,- this issue is going to be taken to court. gig " this issue is going to be taken to court. gig to court. i get that, sirjohn. and that's, of course, the technical reason. and i understand that. but politically , humza yousaf, he's coming into power , replacing nicola sturgeon power, replacing nicola sturgeon with snp's poll ratings on with the snp's poll ratings on the slide . there's all the the slide. there's all the controversy over the financial investigation and the arrest of nicola sturgeon's husband, the former executive, and this former chief executive, and this politically, i think, will be a very, very unpopular move to prolong the agony over this gender recognition bill. it's not popular with snp voters, labour voters , and opposed by labour voters, and opposed by the tory party north of the border. no, no, you're absolutely— 2 no, no, you're absolutely right. no, it's bebbbbeebw— absolutely right. no, it's politically it's- absolutely right. no, it's politically it's not the fight bbeb— politically it's not the fight bbeb web— politically it's not the fight that you would _ politically it's not the fight that you would choose. of course he that you would choose. of course be beee— that you would choose. of course be beee beve—

that you would choose. of course he does have pressures on the ewe— he does have pressures on the ebbew ewe,— he does have pressures on the other side, not— he does have pressures on the other side, not least of the pressures on the- other side, not least of the pressures on the other side. is bbeb— pressures on the other side. is bbeb bbe— pressures on the other side. is that the greens,— pressures on the other side. is that the greens, who are the ewe— that the greens, who are the snp's coalition— that the greens, who are the snp's coalition partners, have beee— snp's coalition partners, have beee-ebeew- snp's coalition partners, have made-clear that- snp's coalition partners, have made clear that they made it pretty clear that they felt made it pretty clear that they bebb bbeb— made it pretty clear that they bebb bbeb e— made it pretty clear that they felt that a challenge needed to be beee— felt that a challenge needed to be made be— felt that a challenge needed to be made to the— felt that a challenge needed to be made to the uk government's beebbbeww— be made to the uk government's beebbbew ewe— be made to the uk government's beebbbew and be— be made to the uk government's position and he may well have beeb— position and he may well have beeb bbe— position and he may well have beeb bbe bwe— position and he may well have lost his two green— position and he may well have lost his two green ministers. if the lost his two green ministers. if bbe bf— lost his two green ministers. if bbe b we— lost his two green ministers. if the if the challenge had not been— the if the challenge had not been pursued.— the if the challenge had not been pursued. so there are pressures on the other side and we ebewbe— pressures on the other side and we should also— pressures on the other side and we should also remember here it's we should also remember here bb-e web— we should also remember here be web web— we should also remember here it's not just this— we should also remember here it's not just this legislation is it's not just this legislation be web— it's not just this legislation be web web— it's not just this legislation is not just legislation that was beeeee— is not just legislation that was beeeeelbbe— is not just legislation that was passed .the snp. - is not just legislation that was passed the snp. was backed passed by the snp. it was backed by we— passed by the snp. it was backed by bbe bebew— passed by the snp. it was backed by the labour party, it was beekee— by the labour party, it was backed by— by the labour party, it was backed by the _ by the labour party, it was backed by the liberal democrat s and backed by the liberal democrat s ewe eyew— backed by the liberal democrat s and even some conservative msps backed by the liberal democrat s and eiini some conservative msps backed by the liberal democrat s and eiin favour. conservative msps backed by the liberal democrat s and eiin favour. so servative msps backed by the liberal democrat s and eiin favour. so thisative msps backed by the liberal democrat s and eiin favour. so this isn't msps voted in favour. so this isn't bweb— voted in favour. so this isn't iweb ebwbby— voted in favour. so this isn't iweb ebwbby ew— voted in favour. so this isn't just simply an snp issue , it is just simply an snp issue, it is a just simply an snp issue, it is e bweeeew— just simply an snp issue, it is a broader issue— just simply an snp issue, it is a broader issue than that. but us a broader issue than that. but us ween— a broader issue than that. but us mean politically this is not the us mean politically this is not bbe webb— us mean politically this is not bbe bbebb yew— us mean politically this is not the fight you would choose and we— the fight you would choose and bbbe be— the fight you would choose and bbbe be web— the fight you would choose and this is not the— the fight you would choose and this is not the time which you webbe— this is not the time which you would choose— this is not the time which you would choose it,— this is not the time which you would choose it, but in a sense all would choose it, but in a sense ebb eb— would choose it, but in a sense ebb eb bbeb— would choose it, but in a sense ebb eb bbeb be— would choose it, but in a sense all of that is outside of mr. beweeb-e— all of that is outside of mr. yousaf's control,- all of that is outside of mr. yousaf's control, as indeed it ebwbeeeby— yousaf's control, as indeed it obviously-true— yousaf's control, as indeed it obviously-true of- yousaf's control, as indeed it obviously true of much of the obviously is true of much of the ebeby— obviously is true of much of the ebeby ebewb— obviously is true of much of the story about finance _ obviously is true of much of the story about finance aces. but in the story about finance aces. but in bbe-bewm— story about finance aces. but in bbe-bewm bb— story about finance aces. but in bbe-bewm bb be— story about finance aces. but in the term it is clearly in the longer term it is clearly in bbe— the longer term it is clearly in bbe-eb— the longer term it is clearly in the-of-scottish. the interest of the scottish government _ the interest of the scottish government scottish government and the scottish bewbbemewb— government and the scottish parliament to _ government and the scottish parliament to test how the ewe— parliament to test how the eewbe mbebb— parliament to test how the courts might apply this

bewbbewbew— courts might apply this particular piece of legislation ewe— particular piece of legislation ewe weee— particular piece of legislation and mean and— particular piece of legislation and mean and bear in mind here, andrew— and mean and bear in mind here, awewew bbeb— and mean and bear in mind here, andrew, that you— and mean and bear in mind here, andrew, that you know, the uk eewewwmewb— andrew, that you know, the uk eewewwmewb .— andrew, that you know, the uk government , you— andrew, that you know, the uk government , you know, has has to government, you know, has has to eb— government, you know, has has to wb wbbb— government, you know, has has to wb wbbb e— government, you know, has has to come up with a case.— government, you know, has has to come up with a case. and if you beeb— come up with a case. and if you beeb eb— come up with a case. and if you beeb eb bbe— come up with a case. and if you look at the case— come up with a case. and if you look at the case that the uk eewewwmewb— look at the case that the uk government has— look at the case that the uk government has made, it's ebweeey— government has made, it's already acknowledged that the exbebbwe— already acknowledged that the exbebbwe 200.— already acknowledged that the existing 2004 gender recognition act existing 2004 gender recognition aeb beee— existing 2004 gender recognition web beee be— existing 2004 gender recognition act does to some— existing 2004 gender recognition act does to some degree cut bbe— act does to some degree cut across the operation of the bewebbby— across the operation of the bewebbby bew— across the operation of the equality act, and that already beebbe— equality act, and that already beebbe eeweew— equality act, and that already people gender recognition under the people gender recognition under bbe exbebbwe— people gender recognition under the existing legislation may bbewebewe— the existing legislation may therefore, as— the existing legislation may therefore, as a— the existing legislation may therefore, as a result, have access to wound- therefore, as a result, have access to wound spaces. may bbewebewe— access to wound spaces. may bbewebewe, ee— access to wound spaces. may bbewebewe, ee e— access to wound spaces. may therefore, as a result, be eewwbee— therefore, as a result, be counted as— therefore, as a result, be counted as women for the bwwbeeee— counted as women for the bwwbeeee eb— counted as women for the purposes of equal pay legislation. - purposes of equal pay legislation. the question is wbebbew— legislation. the question is wbebbew ew— legislation. the question is whether or not— legislation. the question is whether or not the fact that the seebbbeb— whether or not the fact that the scottish legislation might weewbb— scottish legislation might weeebb bb— scottish legislation might result in more— scottish legislation might result in more people getting a eewbbbbeebe— result in more people getting a certificate materially affects the operation _ certificate materially affects the operation of— certificate materially affects the operation of the act. the ebbew— the operation of the act. the ebbew bbbe— the operation of the act. the ebbew bbbwe b— the operation of the act. the other thing i think we should beee— other thing i think we should beew bb— other thing i think we should bear in mind— other thing i think we should bear in mind in— other thing i think we should bear in mind in this, of course, bbe— bear in mind in this, of course, bbe ebbew— bear in mind in this, of course, the other development that's occurred since _ the other development that's occurred since this veto is that bbe— occurred since this veto is that the-government— occurred since this veto is that the-government is- occurred since this veto is that the government is now toying the uk government is now toying wbbb—beb- with changing the equality act bbeebb— with changing the equality act bbeebb ee— with changing the equality act itself so that— with changing the equality act itself so that actually it will bbe— itself so that actually it will the definition— itself so that actually it will the definition in— itself so that actually it will the definition in terms of bwebeebbew— the definition in terms of protection of—

the definition in terms of protection of will be on the beebe— protection of will be on the beebe eb— protection of will be on the basis of biological sex, not on bbe— basis of biological sex, not on bbe beebe— basis of biological sex, not on bbe beebe eb— basis of biological sex, not on the basis of gender. now i think it the basis of gender. now i think bb mbebb— the basis of gender. now i think bb wbebb webb— the basis of gender. now i think it might well be— the basis of gender. now i think it might well be true to that if bwbeee— it might well be true to that if bwbeee bbe— it might well be true to that if indeed the equality act would be ebeweee— indeed the equality act would be ebeweee bb— indeed the equality act would be changed in that— indeed the equality act would be changed in that way. a lot of bbe— changed in that way. a lot of the objections— changed in that way. a lot of the objections that the uk government _ the objections that the uk government has to the current seebbbeb— government has to the current scottish legislature would fall bee— scottish legislature would fall because equality act would because the equality act would no because the equality act would we better— because the equality act would we beweew be— because the equality act would no longer be in— because the equality act would no longer be in the operation of the no longer be in the operation of bbe—we— no longer be in the operation of bbe—we beweew- no longer be in the operation of the—no longer be- the act, would no longer be ebbeebee— the act, would no longer be affected granting of affected by the granting of gender— affected by the granting of gender recognition certificates. so gender recognition certificates. se b— gender recognition certificates. se b ewebeeb— gender recognition certificates. so i suspect this— gender recognition certificates. so i suspect this is an issue bbeb-e— so i suspect this is an issue bbeb-e going— so i suspect this is an issue bbeb-e going be— so i suspect this is an issue that's going to go on for quite wbbbe— that's going to go on for quite wbbbe .— that's going to go on for quite some while . beyond that, i think some while. beyond that, i think the some while. beyond that, i think bbe eewbee— some while. beyond that, i think bbe eewbee be— some while. beyond that, i think the advice to humza yousaf would be be— the advice to humza yousaf would be be bewbwe— the advice to humza yousaf would be be, bewbwe beb— the advice to humza yousaf would be is, having put in— the advice to humza yousaf would be is, having put in the legal ebebbewee— be is, having put in the legal challenge, move— be is, having put in the legal challenge, move on. you eewbebwby— challenge, move on. you certainly don't- challenge, move on. you certainly don't want make it certainly don't want to make it eemebbbwe— certainly don't want to make it something-you're- certainly don't want to make it something you're going something that you're going to be—bebbbbeebby, i something that you're going to bellet-politically, i something that you're going to be let the politically, something that you're going to be let the lawyers litically, something that you're going to be let the lawyers digally, something that you're going to be let the lawyers dig away at but let the lawyers dig away at it but let the lawyers dig away at bb bee— but let the lawyers dig away at it because there— but let the lawyers dig away at it because there probably is webbe— it because there probably is eebbe e— it because there probably is ewbbe e beb— it because there probably is quite a lot of— it because there probably is quite a lot of material for the bewyewe— quite a lot of material for the bewyewelebe— quite a lot of material for the lawyers-dig out. - quite a lot of material for the lawyers dig out. “415?" lawyers to dig out. yeah, eebbebbby— lawyers to dig out. yeah, certainly-yeah well,i lawyers to dig out. yeah,- certainlyiyeah well, that's certainly is. yeah well, that's sir certainly is. yeah well, that's sw john— certainly is. yeah well, that's sir john curtice,— t / well, that's sir john curtice, professor of bebbbbee— sir john curtice, professor of bebbbbeelbbe— sir john curtice, professor of politics the university politics at the university of ebwebbebyee— politics at the university of strathclyde .— politics at the university of strathclyde . thank very much strathclyde. thank you very much for strathclyde. thank you very much bee-bbbe— strathclyde. thank you very much for-this morning.- forjoining us this morning. i bbbwb— forjoining us this morning. i bbbwb-ebb— forjoining us this morning. i think-all-sir- forjoining us this morning. i think all sirjohn forjoining us this morning. i. think-all-sirjohn is think i get all what sirjohn is eeybwe. — think i get all what sirjohn is eeybwe. bb— think i get all what sirjohn is eeybwe. we be— think i get all what sirjohn is eeybwe. we be bb— think i get all what sirjohn is saying. it is it is— think i get all what sirjohn is saying. e e “55w” think i get all what sirjohn is saying. e e cy saying. it is it is insanity for a new scottish leader to be taking on this this this madness on gender id it's not what the

country is talking about. the country is talking about. the country don't want it happening. and a fringe issue. but it and it's a fringe issue. but it did have nicola— ' 2 e 3c; but it did have nicola sturgeon on ebeee— did have nicola sturgeon on ebeee bbeb— did have nicola sturgeon on speed dial. that— did have nicola sturgeon on speed dial. that was what he beeebee— speed dial. that was what he boasted _the. boasted of. so pulling the ebwbwee— boasted of. so pulling the ebwbwee . — boasted of. so pulling the ebwbwee . joe— boasted of. so pulling the strings . 2 i boasted of. so pulling the- strings . joe biden's continuing strings. joe biden's continuing his tour of the republic of ireland he's in dublin. his tour of the republic of irela going he's in dublin. his tour of the republic of irela going to he's in dublin. his tour of the republic of irela going to meet in dublin. his tour of the republic of irela going to meet the ublin. his tour of the republic of irela going to meet the president he's going to meet the president of ireland he's going to of ireland and he's going to talk the irish parliament. talk to the irish parliament. wow it after the white wow it comes after the white wewee— wow it comes after the white house-forced— wow it comes after the white house .forced to - it comes after the white house forced to deny the house was forced to deny the bweebeewb— house was forced to deny the president was— house was forced to deny the president was anti—british bebbewbwe— president was anti—british following brief meeting with following his brief meeting with the following his brief meeting with bbe wbbbe— following his brief meeting with the prime minister. now let's get the prime minister. now let's eeb bbe— the prime minister. now let's get the latest— the prime minister. now let's get the latest from our bebbbbeeb— get the latest from our political editor, darren wecebbwey— political editor, darren mccaffrey, who is in dublin for us mccaffrey, who is in dublin for we webb— mccaffrey, who is in dublin for we been new— mccaffrey, who is in dublin for us right now. good morning eeebw— us right now. good morning again, darren.— us right now. good morning again, darren. so what's nebbenbne— again, darren. so what's happening 7— again, darren. so what's happening ? yeah very good happening? yeah very good newne— happening? yeah very good morning, dawn. ' 2 happening? yeah very good morning, dawn. 'iw2 'iw2 happening? yeah very good morning, dawn. “2 “2 morning, dawn. and andrew, the president is due to meet another president, joe biden meeting. michael sorry, michael d higgins, who's the irish president in the next couple of minutes, not very far from here at his official residence in the phoenix park, harrison lutheran. there's going to an official there's going to be an official signing of the boxes. you signing of the boxes. as you say, the prop political element of his visits to ireland begins . he is going to meet the

president this morning and then he's going to address both houses of the irish parliament in dublin this afternoon. only the fourth president to do so. and then he's going to have a big slap up meal kind of state dinner, if you like, at dublin castle later on tonight. and that's kind of the big political moment here in ireland . of moment here in ireland. of course, he was in northern ireland yesterday as you say, trying to walk that tightrope carefully between trying to emphasise his kind of british heritage and his british roots, trying to tell unionists that he was listening to them while at the same time pleading with them to restore stormont. but to try and restore stormont. but the moment that or the the moment that joe biden or the bit he's most keen on, the bit that he's most keen on, the bit that he's most keen on, the bit most looking bit he's been most looking forward happened night forward to, happened last night when was in in dundalk , just when he was in in dundalk, just north of dublin here meeting kind of his cousins. if you like, his fifth cousins, his ancestral home. crowds did come out to greet him. the weather wasn't great, but he looked pretty relaxed, pretty chilled, touring the pubs in his baseball

cap did make a gaffe, though, pretty bad one when referring to the new zealand rugby team. instead of calling them the all blacks, he talked about the blacks, he talked about the black and tans . not great given black and tans. not great given irish history , and they're irish history, and they're pretty controversial part in the war of independence here that has made some of the front pages in ireland this morning. not great, i would say, forjoe biden and then tomorrow, though, he also goes to the west coast to another part of his ancestral home where he's actually going to speech in front of to make a speech in front of ordinary irish people. and i suspect he's going to get a pretty welcome. despite pretty warm welcome. despite that people that gaffe, most people here a bit like the weather actually quite and welcoming for the quite warm and welcoming for the us presidents. and darren, we've got you on gaffe watch, please. which might mean you'll be very bwey— which might mean you'll be very bwey beeey— which might mean you'll be very bwey beeey ene— which might mean you'll be very busy today and tomorrow indeed . busy today and tomorrow indeed. been. — busy today and tomorrow indeed. been. b— busy today and tomorrow indeed. been. bbbbnb— busy today and tomorrow indeed. yeah. i think really— busy today and tomorrow indeed. yeah. i think really unfortunate and i think the northern ireland leg actually andrew went pretty well for him in the sense that unionists welcomed this idea that he wasn't going to be too muscular his politics about

muscular in his politics about trying force dup back trying to force the dup back into government again . he kind into government again. he kind of all the boxes, praised of ticked all the boxes, praised rishi didn't mention rishi sunak back, didn't mention sinn fein to a degree in the sense that he didn't want to overemphasise that talked about his heritage. that his british heritage. so that all gone quite well. all seemed to gone quite well. and , yeah, last night, you and then, yeah, last night, you know, the biden slip of the tongue. this, tongue. he's infamous for this, isn't cause a bit isn't he manages to cause a bit of an upset. i'm sure he's hoping that's not going to overshadow next couple of overshadow the next couple of days. as say , he's here days. but as you say, he's here until lunchtime with until saturday lunchtime with joe biden. anything could happen. absolutely. joe biden. anything could happen. absolutely . that's happen. absolutely. that's darren mccaffrey, our political editor , who will be with the editor, who will be with the president of the united states for the next 48 hours. it's going to be very ”8 it's going to be very interesting. wee— going to be very interesting. we-e ebenebne— going to be very interesting. he's spending a— going to be very interesting. he's spending a lot of time were— he's spending a lot of time bnewe-bbbe— he's spending a lot of time there like literally a cup there and like literally a cup of there and like literally a cup eb-bn— there and like literally a cup of-in northern- there and like literally a cup of in northern ireland. of coffee in northern ireland. webb— of coffee in northern ireland. wbbb—ceme- of coffee in northern ireland. right._come, uki right. but still to come, uk economic flatlined economic growth flatlined in bebwweny. — economic growth flatlined in bebwweny. lid— economic growth flatlined in february. did chancellor february. so did chancellor jeremy— february. so did chancellor jeremy wwnb-e— february. so did chancellor jeremy hunt's recent budget help or jeremy hunt's recent budget help ew-ebbewbe— jeremy hunt's recent budget help ew-ebbewbe be— jeremy hunt's recent budget help or-efforts to level- jeremy hunt's recent budget help or efforts to level up or hinder efforts to level up our economy?— or hinder efforts to level up our economy? we'll be finding out our economy? we'll be finding ewb bn—

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is good morning. welcome back. it be beze— good morning. welcome back. it be new ene— good morning. welcome back. it is 1027 and you're— good morning. welcome back. it is 1027 and you're with to the bebnb— is 1027 and you're with to the bebnb en— is1027 and you're with to the bebnb en eb— is 1027 and you're with to the point on gb news— is 1027 and you're with to the point on gb news with andrew bbewee— point on gb news with andrew bbewee .— point on gb news with andrew pierce . that's— point on gb news with andrew pierce . that's him and me. dawn pierce. that's him and me. dawn weee— pierce. that's him and me. dawn weee . — pierce. that's him and me. dawn weee . ane— pierce. that's him and me. dawn neesom . and we're— pierce. that's him and me. dawn neesom . ' 2 ”bi: git g pierce. that's him and me. dawn neesom . ' giw w: pierce. that's him and me. dawn neesom . ' gitw w: neesom. and we're going to talk about the economy now because it's not going so well. it certainly didn't go very well in february. manufacturing down. it's not looking good. it's all not looking very good. so chancellor's budget so was the chancellor's budget helpful? it's so was the chancellor's budget helpful ? it's the chancellor's helpful? it's the chancellor's bweeeb— helpful? it's the chancellor's bweeeb eyew— 7 it's the chancellor's budget ever helpful? hm. let's nne— budget ever helpful? hm. let's bbne ewb— budget ever helpful? hm. let's find out from _ budget ever helpful? hm. let's find out from our— budget ever helpful? hm. let's find out from our economics and bwebneee— find out from our economics and bwebneee eebbew— find out from our economics and business editor liam halligan, wne— business editor liam halligan, wne nee— business editor liam halligan, wne nee e— business editor liam halligan, wne nee e very— business editor liam halligan, who has a very special report ben— who has a very special report been bbe— who has a very special report from the west— who has a very special report from the west midlands , from the west midlands, bebbebn-e— from the west midlands, britain's manufacturing neeebbene— britain's manufacturing heartland builders are busy , heartland builders are busy, bwey— heartland builders are busy, bwey bn— heartland builders are busy, busy in birmingham, the uk's eeene— busy in birmingham, the uk's second biggest— busy in birmingham, the uk's second biggest city, but is the government's— second biggest city, but is the government's flagship levelling up government's flagship levelling wb bebbey— government's flagship levelling wb bebbey ,— government's flagship levelling up policy , spreading wealth from up policy, spreading wealth from the south—east— up policy, spreading wealth from the south—east to _ up policy, spreading wealth from the south—east to the midlands ene— the south—east to the midlands ene neebn. — the south—east to the midlands and north. now— the south—east to the midlands and north. now a— the south—east to the midlands and north. \wbiwww ”c132 eye the south—east to the midlands and north. \wbijbbw' ”c132 eye i and north. now a reality. this is victoria square in central birmingham , one of several birmingham, one of several pubuc birmingham, one of several public spaces in the city that's been getting a much needed facelift. but to what extent does levelling up extend beyond city centres to towns across britain's regions ? material

britain's regions? material pnces britain's regions? material bebeee newe— i ”big 7 material prices have increased significantly in walsall, ten nbbee— significantly in walsall, ten nbbee been — significantly in walsall, ten miles from central birmingham cenbeeb— miles from central birmingham cenbeeb ene— miles from central birmingham control and automation manufactures- control and automation manufactures internal control eyebene— manufactures internal control systems which— manufactures internal control systems which operate complex neenbneey— systems which operate complex machinery with— systems which operate complex machinery with 230 workers, is expenebne— machinery with 230 workers, is expanding fast. _ machinery with 230 workers, is expanding fast. o machinery with 230 workers, is expanding fast. c o expanding fast. but ceo tony hague says the recent rise in corporation tax and still sky high energy bills will hurt companies across the midlands. i think levelling up is complete and i think levelling up is complete ene wbbee— i think levelling up is complete ene wbbee tebe— i think levelling up is complete and utter joke and has been and utterjoke and has been a bebbbbeeb— and utterjoke and has been a political slogan— and utterjoke and has been a political slogan for some time. i political slogan for some time. b een-b— political slogan for some time. b een-b eee— political slogan for some time. b een-b eny— political slogan for some time. i don't see any any evidence wnebeeewee— i don't see any any evidence whatsoever of— i don't see any any evidence whatsoever of any genuine eebbwbby— whatsoever of any genuine activity around _ whatsoever of any genuine activity around levelling up in his activity around levelling up in we bweeeb. — activity around levelling up in his budget. three- activity around levelling up in his budget. i”wi;wi; g his budget. three weeks ago, jeremy hunt announced low tax investment zones in including parts of birmingham. but the leader of the city's labour run council says levelling up isn't happening in the office of budget responsibility are forecast ing a downgrading of the uk growth over the coming 12 months. as a result of the conservative budget. so i think it was very, very disappointing

. we're also faced with the cost of living crisis that's right across the city. and again, the obr are saying that living standards are going to have their hardest hit since the 19505. their hardest hit since the 1950s. so i don't think the budget offered very much. birmingham has a labour council, but the west midlands, as a whole has a tory mayor andy street says the new investment zones will encourage growth, making levelling up a reality. we're standing in what you would beebebby— we're standing in what you would beebebby eey— we're standing in what you would beebebby eey be— we're standing in what you would probably say is britain's best weeb— probably say is britain's best weeb ene— probably say is britain's best west and biggest, most successful— west and biggest, most successful enterprise zone here in successful enterprise zone here bn bbe— successful enterprise zone here bn bne ebby— successful enterprise zone here in the city centre— successful enterprise zone here in the city centre that has bebbnbbeby— in the city centre that has definitely bolstered growth. we-we— definitely bolstered growth. we've seen behind- definitely bolstered growth. we've seen behind you, hsbc coming in, goldman sachs coming in there. they probably wouldn't have done to this location if it hadnt have done to this location if it hadn't been for that status . so hadn't been for that status. so we've learnt from that. we've proposed to government those new measures. they've agreed that will definitely bolster growth. so what do brummies say so what do ordinary brummies say is levelling up just a slogan ? i is levelling up just a slogan? i think it's always going to be london and always has been really. and london and always has been really . and i can't really see really. and i can't really see bbeb— really. and i can't really see we nebbenbne.— really. and i can't really see that happening. _ really. and i can't really see that happening. i- ”catty and i can't really see

that happening. i think that's always going to be the case. it's where the money is. yeah, it's great thing, but— e yeah, it's great thing, but there are some areas that— it's great thing, but there are some areas that are not really weebbne— some areas that are not really weebbne en— some areas that are not really working on probably a gimmick, not working on probably a gimmick, nebe—e— working on probably a gimmick, nebe—e bwb- working on probably a gimmick, not—are, but that's. not most things are, but that's as not most things are, but that's ee nwen— not most things are, but that's ee nwen ee b— not most things are, but that's as much as i know— not most things are, but that's as much as i know about it. as bbe— as much as i know about it. as bbe eenemy— as much as i know about it. as the economy struggles to recover and manufacturers fight on the success or otherwise of levelling up could decide the next general election. yet even in birmingham city centre, this flagship policy is at best a work in progress. liam halligan gb news in birmingham . gb news in birmingham. interesting report. thank you very interesting report. thank you weey mweb— interesting report. thank you weey mwen. bew— interesting report. thank you very much. now, right.- g ”wi;:wwitw” thank you very much. now, right. still to webb— very much. now, right. still to come, we'll be— very much. now, right. still to come, we'll be talking royals eeem— come, we'll be talking royals eeebn ene— come, we'll be talking royals again ene ebb— come, we'll be talking royals again and all the other stories nem— again and all the other stories beem beeey-e— again and all the other stories from today's papers with johanna wbbbbeme— from today's papers with johanna williams-anna— from today's papers with johanna williams anna mcgovern . and williams and anna mcgovern. and bbeb-e— williams and anna mcgovern. and bbeb-e ebbee— williams and anna mcgovern. and that's after your— williams and anna mcgovern. and that's after your morning news wbbb—bebneny- that's after your morning news with bethany elsey . with the lovely bethany elsey. do with the lovely bethany elsey. be bewn. — with the lovely bethany elsey. do dawn. thank— with the lovely bethany elsey. do dawn. “fies”: wi;”wi; do dawn. thank you. here's the latest headlines from the gb newsroom at 1031, the chancellor says the outlook for the uk economy is brighter than

expected, despite it new figures showing there was no growth in february. data from the office for national statistics shows a 0.4% decrease in gross domestic product from january. the service sector fell too, with the ons blaming strike action by teachers and civil servants. a fall in gas and electric usage due to milder weather was also to blame. but the figures do show gdp grew 0.1% in the three months to february. jeremy hunt says the uk is set to avoid a recession . us president joe recession. us president joe biden will address the irish parliament today and meet with taoiseach leo varadkar as his visit continues . the president visit continues. the president will spend three days in the repubuc will spend three days in the republic of ireland after having spent a short time in northern ireland to mark the 25th anniversary of the good friday agreement . but yesterday, agreement. but yesterday, thousands gathered to greet him on a tour of his ancestors home county, which joe biden said felt like coming home. donald

trump is suing his former lawyer, michael cohen, for £400 million. the former us president is seeking damages after cohen testified before the manhattan grand jury that indicted him . grand jury that indicted him. trump has accused cohen of failing to honour attorney client confidentiality and of profiting by spreading falsehoods about him in books and podcasts. cohen's lawyer called the lawsuit frivolous and in some breaking news, the body of a woman has been found washed up on a beach after a search and rescue operation off brighton palace pier , coastguard palace pier, coastguard helicopters and rnli lifeboats were involved in the rescue effort, which was launched on wednesday afternoon after a report of a person in the sea . report of a person in the sea. the heavy winds of storm noah had made search efforts challenging sussex. police say an investigation is underway . an investigation is underway. you're up to date on tv online dab+ radio and on tune in. this is gb news as .

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next it's 1037. you're with to the point on gb news with andrew pierce and dawn neesom. right? oh, pierce and dawn neesom. right? on bwebbnenem— pierce and dawn neesom. right? oh, buckingham palace- 37�*wi;”wt.wi; 5iw2 b \ right? oh, buckingham palace has eembemee— oh, buckingham palace has confirmed that— oh, buckingham palace has confirmed that prince harry will be ebbenebne— confirmed that prince harry will be attending the— confirmed that prince harry will be attending the king's coronation— be attending the king's coronation next month, but his wbbe— coronation next month, but his wbbe weenew— coronation next month, but his wife meghan, will not farage ebenb. — wife meghan, will not farage ebenb. beeb— wife meghan, will not farage right. rob broadcaster and nbebeeben— right. rob broadcaster and historian ralph haydel manku tebne— historian ralph haydel manku tebne we— historian ralph haydel manku tebne we bbbe— historian ralph haydel manku joins us this morning to give us his joins us this morning to give us be bebe— joins us this morning to give us be bebe en— joins us this morning to give us his take on the— joins us this morning to give us his take on the whole thing . his take on the whole thing. beebbw— his take on the whole thing. nebbw bbbe— his take on the whole thing. ralph, this story is fascinating , ben-b— ralph, this story is fascinating , ben-b bbe— ralph, this story is fascinating , ben-b b? b— ralph, this story is fascinating , isn't it? i really— ralph, this story is fascinating , isn't it? i really hate myself for , isn't it? i really hate myself bee bebbbne— , isn't it? i really hate myself for talking endlessly about new— for talking endlessly about weeey eneb— for talking endlessly about harry and meghan, but let's face it, harry and meghan, but let's face i, bbe— harry and meghan, but let's face i, be en— harry and meghan, but let's face i, be en bbe— harry and meghan, but let's face it, it's on the front— harry and meghan, but let's face it, it's on the front of every newebebee— it, it's on the front of every newspaper around the world, eenewb— newspaper around the world, eenewb bbe— newspaper around the world, around the world. around the weebeb— around the world. around the weebb. webb— around the world. around the world. right. what do you make of world. right. what do you make eb-eembne— world. right. what do you make eb-eembne eneb— world. right. what do you make of coming and meghan not of harry coming and meghan not us of harry coming and meghan not use — of harry coming and meghan not use web.— of harry coming and meghan not us .7 well, look,— of harry coming and meghan not us .7 well, look, it— of harry coming and meghan not us ? well, look, it was- of harry coming and meghan not us? well, look, it was important to the king that it harry should come . and, you know, we know come. and, you know, we know that he wants to have both his sons there for what is essentially the most important day in his life. and also, i imagine because never in history

has an adult son, adult son not attended the coronation of his father, but for the rest of the country. and, you know, and the nafion country. and, you know, and the nation and indeed the commonwealth, this whole episode has just extremely has been just extremely frustrating have this. frustrating thing to have this. will won't they moment. will they or won't they moment. but i'm glad now that we finally got some sort of settlement on this issue . but of course, this whole issue. but of course, harry, previously stated that he wouldn't attend the coronation if he if he didn't get an apology from the palace for what they to apologise. they really need to apologise. we know. so whether there we don't know. so whether there was apology behind the was an apology behind the scenes, don't know. i think scenes, we don't know. i think it's unlikely. but it's rather unlikely. um, but you know , they've had a really you know, they've had a really bad year . the you know, they've had a really bad year. the duke and duchess of sussex, think 2023 could be of sussex, i think 2023 could be said to be their own annus horribilis. know, we've had horribilis. you know, we've had the backlash their book the backlash to their book spare, which sold very well, but was critically not a success. people making fun of it from everything from south park to chris rock to every us talk show host . their poll ratings took host. their poll ratings took a huge pummelling after the book came out in america then.

they're now less popular than prince andrew, if you can imagine that. prince andrew, if you can imagine that . and i think imagine that. and i think people, even their friends, are realising that they're becoming increasingly irrelevant but haven't to say . haven't got much more to say. and i think they realise that it's proximity to the it's their proximity to the royal makes royal family that really makes them are at the end of them who they are at the end of them who they are at the end of the day. and so by going the the day. and so by going to the coronation, harry sort of coronation, harry is sort of maintaining illusion that maintaining this illusion that he's relevant. i think he's still relevant. and i think maybe he also realises if he doesn't somehow extend an olive branch in some capacity, then his future will be very bleak. if he doesn't have some contact and connection with the palace and connection with the palace and the family. draghi we've had some interesting— 5“w2 lye draghi we've had some interesting messages from eneb— some interesting messages from viewers and listeners saying mwen— viewers and listeners saying men-.— viewers and listeners saying mwen-. bney-eel viewers and listeners saying- much-. they're pleased much the same. they're pleased bbeb— much the same. they're pleased bbeb weenen-e— much the same. they're pleased that meghan's going , they're that meghan's not going, they're bbeeeeb—bwb- pleased harry's going, but bney-ee— pleased harry's going, but| they're—didn't pleased harry's going, but- they're_didn't harry they're saying, why didn't harry bring— they're saying, why didn't harry bebne-bewe— they're saying, why didn't harry bring-four years- they're saying, why didn't harry bring four years old? bring archie four years old? we-e— bring archie four years old? we-e ebb— bring archie four years old? he's old enough and he could bnen— he's old enough and he could bnenlbn— he's old enough and he could bnenlbn bbe— he's old enough and he could then in the photograph. the then be in the photograph. the nbebeebe—eb- then be in the photograph. the historic—of the- then be in the photograph. the historic of the first historic photograph of the first eeenebenb— historic photograph of the first coronation _1953.- historic photograph of the first coronation 1953. he's coronation since 1953. he's a eeyeb— coronation since 1953. he's a eeyeb bebnee— coronation since 1953. he's a royal prince because when he eeewe— royal prince because when he oeewe wb— royal prince because when he oeewe we, be— royal prince because when he grows up, he gets a little bit ebee.— grows up, he gets a little bit ebbee. we-e— grows up, he gets a little bit older. he's going— grows up, he gets a little bit older. he's going to be wenbeebne— older. he's going to be wondering why he's not in that bnebeoeebn. — wondering why he's not in that bnebeoeebn. ane— wondering why he's not in that photograph. and his royal cousins-that's- photograph. and his royal

cousins that's right. and cousins are. that's right. and if-remember_ cousins are. that's right. and if remember back to 1953, if you remember back to 1953, beebwb— if you remember back to 1953, one derful photographs of the young— one derful photographs of the yewno eb— one derful photographs of the yewno eb bbe— one derful photographs of the young of the young prince cneebee— young of the young prince cneebee ee— young of the young prince charles, as he— young of the young prince charles, as he then was, and bbbe— charles, as he then was, and bbbe beweby— charles, as he then was, and this lovely to— charles, as he then was, and this lovely to have that idea of the this lovely to have that idea of me newb— this lovely to have that idea of the next generation. /witw ”wi; the next generation. you're webbe— the next generation. you're ewbbe nebe.— the next generation. you're quite right. of we quite right. and of course, we know archie didn't get an know that archie didn't get an invitation specifically, but there were the palace was waiting see whether waiting to see whether harry would then would attend and then accommodation would been accommodation would have been possible. course , it's possible. but of course, it's very the date very convenient that the date falls his fourth birthday falls upon his fourth birthday because it provides the perfect excuse for meghan not to attend. to say that she's looking after her children and the birthday in california, i sort of rather wonder what her excuse would have been for not attending had this been taking place in june. you know, but what a fourth birthday that would be for that young to look back on in young boy to look back on in years to come. the most historic day— years to come. the most historic eey bn— years to come. the most historic eey bn bbe— years to come. the most historic day in the history— years to come. the most historic day in the history of— «wwi;5”5 t the most historic day in the history of the «5575 t the most historic day in the history of the royal bembby— day in the history of the royal family boasting— day in the history of the royal family boasting power at school. wbeb—en— family boasting power at school. wbeb—en yewe- family boasting power at school. what—on your fourth. what did you do on your fourth birthday? oh, my granddad was crowned of 14 crowned king. yeah, king of 14 realms. better jelly and realms. better than jelly and ice realms. better than jelly and bee-been. - realms. better than jelly and bee-been. b- realms. better than jelly and ice-yeah. imean,i realms. better than jelly andi ice _yeah. i mean, it realms. better than jelly and. ice _yeah. i mean, it is ice cream. yeah. i mean, it is an extraordinary— ice cream. / i mean, it is an extraordinary miss by harry eneb— an extraordinary miss by harry

enb weenew— an extraordinary miss by harry ene weenew b— an extraordinary miss by harry and meghan. i think it's it's and meghan. i think it's an it's and meghan. i think it's an it's an extraordinary— and meghan. i think it's an it's an extraordinary mix, a miss. beb— an extraordinary mix, a miss. bwb bbe— an extraordinary mix, a miss. bwb bb-e ebee— an extraordinary mix, a miss. but it's also something- an extraordinary mix, a miss. but it's also something else. it's as if meghan is trying to equate a child's birthday equate a child's fourth birthday with the coronation, as if these are events of equal status. you know, course, what could be know, of course, what could be a better birthday present for a grandchild and to see their granddad crowned king, someone that haven't actually got that they haven't actually got to or see at all. so i to know or see at all. so i think you're quite right on that level. and also, i mean , most level. and also, i mean, most kids don't remember their fourth birthday. remember my birthday. i don't remember my fourth so i'm sure the fourth birthday. so i'm sure the other parties are going to have in montisi be soon in montisi nato will be soon forgotten. rafe in montisi nato will be soon forgotten . rafe now harry is forgotten. rafe now harry is eembne— forgotten. rafe now harry is eembne ee— forgotten. rafe now harry is coming over here. - g t“ rafe now harry is coming over here. what gt“ rafe now harry is coming over here. what role will he coming over here. what role will be eebwebby— coming over here. what role will be eebwebby be— coming over here. what role will he actually be playing on the day— he actually be playing on the eey b— he actually be playing on the eey b webb— he actually be playing on the day .7 well i'll— he actually be playing on the day ? well i'll not much at all. day? well i'll not much at all. see:— day? well i'll not much at all. see. be-e— day? well i'll not much at all. see. new neb— day? well i'll not much at all. see, he's not a— day? well i'll not much at all. see, he's not a working- day? well i'll not much at all. see, he's not a working member of the royal family, so we expect things to somehow follow along the lines of the platinum jubilee where if you remember, they didn't form part of the official procession in during the church service and they were seated off to one side still with members of the family, with

beatrice and eugenie and all of that, but definitely not part of the core team. you know, the core element of the royal family and we know that there won't be a balcony appearance for prince harry either. um of course, we have to remember prince william will be front and centre for all of this and thinking about archie, prince george will be a page and there'll be so many of archie's cousins who will be taking place taking part in some capacity or other . but we taking place taking part in some capacity or other. but we don't know whether prince harry will be doing anything much after the actual service itself . his be doing anything much after the actual service itself. his his biographer , omid scobie, has biographer, omid scobie, has said that it will just be making a brief visit, implying it will be just for the service . also, be just for the service. also, we don't really expect , i think, we don't really expect, i think, that he's going to be wearing uniform on this occasion. there was an exemption made for him previously, but i think on this time we can expect him to be wearing mourning suit as we can expect, most likely also for prince andrew, who seems to have been vetoed from wearing his robes knight of the garter. robes of a knight of the garter. just that , ralph,

just finally on that, ralph, isn't the fact is , isn't the fact the fact is, harry meghan, they'll be in harry and meghan, they'll be in the cheap seats, won't they? they'll be in the cheap seats wbbb— they'll be in the cheap seats wbbb bebnee— they'll be in the cheap seats with prince andrew and other mbnee— with prince andrew and other eeyebe. — with prince andrew and other minor royals. the— with prince andrew and other minor royals. the duke and bweneee— minor royals. the duke and duchess gloucester have minor royals. the duke and d mores gloucester have minor royals. the duke and d more prominentbster have minor royals. the duke and d more prominent position have minor royals. the duke and d more prominent position than a more prominent position than meeb— a more prominent position than most-wouldn't- a more prominent position than most wouldn't know him if most people wouldn't know him if bney— most people wouldn't know him if bney webbed— most people wouldn't know him if they walked-this— most people wouldn't know him if they walked this studio right they walked in this studio right now. _absolutely. - they walked in this studio right now. absolutely. ' “2 now. yes, but absolutely. and the now. yes, but absolutely. and ebe-bwebeee- now. yes, but absolutely. and the-duchess of- now. yes, but absolutely. and the duchess of kent as the duke and duchess of kent as well. not duchess but well. but not the duchess but they're royals . you they're working royals. you know, they've dedicated their lives and they've shown a great deal loyalty to the crown deal more loyalty to the crown and their lives have been one of faultless dedication to the concept of duty and responsibility and serving the nation. so i think it's only right that they should be seen there and maybe it will serve as a lesson , you know, a wake up a lesson, you know, a wake up call to harry if he wants to enjoy all the plum perks of royal life, he has to do some graft. right? royal life, he has to do some graft . right? okay. we have to graft. right? okay. we have to move on. thank— graft. right? okay. we have to move on. thank you- wg”51 right? okay. we have to move on. thank you very much. we een-b— move on. thank you very much. we een-b newe— move on. thank you very much. we don't have royals— move on. thank you very much. we don't have royals walking into the don't have royals walking into me ebwbbe— don't have royals walking into the studio. thank— don't have royals walking into the studio. thank ralph the studio. thank you, ralph wenbw— the studio. thank you, ralph wenbw eeyeb— the studio. thank you, ralph manku, royal commentator and nbebeeben— manku, royal commentator and historian. but— manku, royal commentator and historian. but we— manku, royal commentator and historian. but we do have our newebebee— historian. but we do have our newspaper reviewers walking bneewen— newspaper reviewers walking bneewen bne— newspaper reviewers walking through the newspaper. t through the newspaper. royalty.

been,— through the newspaper. royalty. been, exeebby— through the newspaper. royalty. yeah, exactly. exactly. _ through the newspaper. 7 yeah, exactly. exactly. that yeah, exactly. exactly. and that is yeah, exactly. exactly. and that be bebbbbeeb— yeah, exactly. exactly. and that is political commentator anna weeeween— is political commentator anna mcgovern—and- is political commentator anna- mcgovern_and academic mcgovern and author and academic teenne— mcgovern and author and academic joanna williams. _ mcgovern and author and academic joanna williams. welcome to you bem— joanna williams. welcome to you bebb—tebnbne- both. thank you for joining us bebey— both. thank you for joining us bwey-obey— both. thank you for joining us today.-okay well,- both. thank you for joining us today. okay well, the today. right. okay well, the new— today. right. okay well, the beenb beoee— today. right. okay well, the front pages, obviously are. we-we— front pages, obviously are. we-we ebb— front pages, obviously are. we've all got— front pages, obviously are. we've all got that story , we've all got that story, newen-b— we've all got that story, haven't we, _ we've all got that story, haven't we, of- we've all got that story, haven't we, of the royals. so wbeb— haven't we, of the royals. so we ee— haven't we, of the royals. so we we— haven't we, of the royals. so what are we kicking off with? wne-e— what are we kicking off with? we going— what are we kicking off with? who's going first on this one? ane— who's going first on this one? and ee— who's going first on this one? and yew— who's going first on this one? and are you going first? b/wi;5 and are you going first? yes, i we— and are you going first? yes, i am. we haven't— and are you going first? yes, i am. we haven't got- and are you going first? b/wi;5 we haven't got a royal am. we haven't got a royal ebeey— am. we haven't got a royal ebeey, bbewob— am. we haven't got a royal story, though. no.- we haven't got a royal story, though. no. finding one. webb— story, though. no. finding one. webb. b— story, though. no. finding one. well, i actually— story, though. no. finding one. well, i actually have— story, though. no. finding one. well, i actually have a- story, though. no. finding one. well, i actually have a face mask story, but i'm happy. i am very happy to talk about- i am very happy to talk about the eeyebe— very happy to talk about the eeyebe ee— very happy to talk about the royals as well. _ very happy to talk about the royals as well. cite/q go on. royals as well. okay. go on. bebb— royals as well. okay. go on. bebb ebewb— royals as well. okay. go on. talk about face— royals as well. go on. talk about face masks. royals as well. cite/q go on. talk about face masks. let's webb— talk about face masks. let's bebb ebewb— talk about face masks. let's talk about face— talk about face masks. let's talk about face masks. so talk about face masks. t so the talk about face masks. so the story i have here today,- t so the story i have here today, so bnee-e— story i have here today, so there's they're _ story i have here today, so there's they're saying no ewbeneeb— there's they're saying no evidence, face- there's they're saying no evidence, face masks protected the vulnerable _ evidence, face masks protected the vulnerable people from the cowb— the vulnerable people from the com 19.— the vulnerable people from the com 19. se— the vulnerable people from the com 19. be b— the vulnerable people from the covid 19. so i think the vulnerable people from the covid19. so i think during this been. — covid19. so i think during this been. wbeb— covid19. so i think during this term. who's saying- covid19. so i think during this term. t“wg e“5e7 so term. who's saying that? so that's term. who's saying that? so bbeb-e eembne— term. who's saying that? so that's coming from - term. who's saying that? so that's coming from the- term. t“wg e“5e7 so that's coming from the telegraph bebey. — that's coming from the telegraph beeey. nbenb. se— that's coming from the telegraph today. 7 g so this that's coming from the telegraph today. 3wgt“ so this has that's coming from the telegraph today. 3wg1 so this has been today. right. so this has been ebeewbebbne. — today. right. so this has been circulating. so— today. right. so this has been circulating. so i— today. 3wg1 so this has been circulating. so i think it's the uk.— circulating. so i think it's the ww wb— circulating. so i think it's the uk, uk health— circulating. so i think it's the uk, uk health security agency. been. — uk, uk health security agency. been. bee— uk, uk health security agency. yeah. yes yes. oh,— uk, uk health security agency. yeah. yes yes. oh, just- uk, uk health security agency. b/wi;5 t“ b/wi;5 b/wi;5 oh, just to be yeah. yes yes. oh, just to be bee — yeah. yes yes. oh, just to be bee been.— yeah. yes yes. oh, just to be clear. yeah. sorry so i think with this story , i think many with this story, i think many people were very angry at the

beginning of the kind of lockdown and everything and because as more evidence came out with with covid 19 and the trans mission and i think many people were very upset because the government, they pretty much coerced people into wearing face masks. it was a social responsibility- masks. it was a social responsibility. - it was a social responsibility. it was a social responsibility . �*7 masks. it was a social- responsibility . motty if you responsibility. motty if you didn't, you had to public transport. yeah, you had to. it was it was it was the law. and if you didn't, you'd— was it was it was the law. and if you didn't, you'd be- if you didn't, you'd be breaking the if you didn't, you'd be breaking bne bew— if you didn't, you'd be breaking bne bew. ane— if you didn't, you'd be breaking the law. and they— if you didn't, you'd be breaking the law. and they were saying bbeb,— the law. and they were saying bbeb, yew— the law. and they were saying that, you know,— the law. and they were saying that, you know, you'd be giving yew-b— that, you know, you'd be giving yew-b be— that, you know, you'd be giving yew-e be bwbbbne— that, you know, you'd be giving you'd be putting other people at risk you'd be putting other people at ebeb eb— you'd be putting other people at ebeb eb cowb— you'd be putting other people at risk of covm 19— you'd be putting other people at risk of covid 19 and everything. so risk of covid 19 and everything. se b— risk of covid 19 and everything. se b bnbnb— risk of covid 19 and everything. so i think-people- so i think now people are beebbne—yewl so i think now people are- feeling_you know , feeling very kind of, you know, beebbne— feeling very kind of, you know, beebbne bebbn— feeling very kind of, you know, lacking faith in— feeling very kind of, you know, lacking faith in the government because, you know, all this ewbbenee— because, you know, all this evidence - since - because, you know, all this evidence since come out with evidence has since come out with bne— evidence has since come out with bne-bbbee— evidence has since come out with bne-bbbee bne— evidence has since come out with the files, the parties the lockdown files, the parties wbbb— the lockdown files, the parties with .government,- the lockdown files, the parties with government, you know, with the government, you know, newne— with the government, you know, newbne-eneeeet- with the government, you know, having cheese, birthday having wine and cheese, birthday eebe— having wine and cheese, birthday eebe-ebb— having wine and cheese, birthday eebe-ebb eb— having wine and cheese, birthday cake-all of that. _ having wine and cheese, birthday cake all of that. and cake and all of that. and i bnbnb— cake and all of that. and i bnbnb meny— cake and all of that. and i think many people are very upset bee— think many people are very upset be bney— think many people are very upset because they were _ think many people are very upset because they were put under what i because they were put under what b—beeeenben— i would say, a draconian beebbewn— i would say, a draconian lockdown-,- i would say, a draconian lockdown-, then they lockdown measures, and then they just lockdown measures, and then they tweb-eeweenmenb- lockdown measures, and then they just-government as- lockdown measures, and then they just government as a just see the government as a bbnb— just see the government as a bbnblbbbe— just see the government as a kind-like-rule- just see the government as a kind-like-rule for- just see the government as a kind like rule for them, kind of like one rule for them, ewbe— kind of like one rule for them, ewbe bee— kind of like one rule for them, one rule for us— kind of like one rule for them, one rule for us mentality , one rule for us mentality, bee— one rule for us mentality, because the _ one rule for us mentality, because the government were eembbebeby— because the government were completely ignoring the rules

bbeb— completely ignoring the rules bbeb bney— completely ignoring the rules bbeb bney eeb— completely ignoring the rules that they set and the public ebb— that they set and the public were all forced— that they set and the public were all forced to follow them. ewb— were all forced to follow them. swbb beenne— were all forced to follow them. suit joanna to— were all forced to follow them. suit joanna to defend the government. _ suit joanna to defend the government. ' “2 suit joanna to defend the government. ' government. and i'm not necessarily defending them because i did wear a mask because i did wear a mask because that was law and because that was the law and i was always sceptical. but they were telling us that they were following science. well, following the science. well, they what's they were, but i think what's ewb— they were, but i think what's come out particularly in come out since, particularly in eebebben— come out since, particularly in eebebben be— come out since, particularly in relation to matt— come out since, particularly in relation to matt hancock's wnebebbb— relation to matt hancock's whatsapp exchange him has whatsapp exchange us him has enewn— whatsapp exchange us him has shown-was a very- whatsapp exchange us him has shown was a very fluid shown that this was a very fluid , beb-e— shown that this was a very fluid , beb-e eey,— shown that this was a very fluid , let's say, concept,— shown that this was a very fluid , let's say, concept, which enybeey— , let's say, concept, which enybeey wbbb— , let's say, concept, which anybody with any understanding of anybody with any understanding eb eebenee— anybody with any understanding of science kind— anybody with any understanding of science kind of— anybody with any understanding of science kind of knew that bbeb— of science kind of knew that bbeb wee— of science kind of knew that that was the _ of science kind of knew that that was the case. �*vw�*wi; 2 that was the case. we tend to put— that was the case. we tend to put the way science was talked about during the pandemic was if it came with a capital letter and a word , the in front of it, and a word, the in front of it, the science, the science, one, whereas they never shared the science. no, exactly . whereas they never shared the science. no, exactly. you whereas they never shared the science. no, exactly . you speak science. no, exactly. you speak to any scientist and they will tell you that the issues are always contestable . you set out always contestable. you set out to prove always contestable. you set out be beewe enb — always contestable. you set out to prove and disprove- t you set out to prove and disprove hypotheses . bew— to prove and disprove hypotheses . you knew.— to prove and disprove hypotheses . you know, there— to prove and disprove hypotheses . you know, there is— to prove and disprove hypotheses . you know, there is never one science that's always correct for all time. and i actually think particularly in relation to face masks right since the very beginning of the pandemic ,

very beginning of the pandemic, there was a lot of dispute about it. it was it was contested. beb-e— it. it was it was contested. beb-e eey, — it. it was it was contested. beb-e eey, ee— it. it was it was contested. let's say, as to _ t it was it was contested. let's say, as to how effective bney— let's say, as to how effective bney wewbb— let's say, as to how effective they would be. _ let's say, as to how effective they would be. this is a very eeeb— they would be. this is a very good ewebbby— they would be. this is a very good quality report. 2 good quality report. i would say bbeb-e— good quality report. i would say that's being discussed in the telegraph this morning. it's from the uk health security agency . and their investigation agency. and their investigation isn't into just the kind of paper masks that people were buying to throw away on a daily bafis buying to throw away on a daily basis or the kind of horrible, grubby bits of cloth that people were making for themselves. yeah this study is actually referring to high quality masks such as the n95, the real proper kind of builders. they were the gold standard. they did, and it's enebbeb— standard. they did, and it's enebbeb be— standard. they did, and it's enabled to find— standard. they did, and it's enabled to find a- 22 they did, and it's enabled to find a single piece of scientific— enabled to find a single piece of scientific research which had weebbe— of scientific research which had weebbe eebe— of scientific research which had usable data to— of scientific research which had usable data to back up this. now:— usable data to back up this. new. wbeb— usable data to back up this. now, what annoys— usable data to back up this. now, what annoys me- usable data to back up this. now, what annoys me is- usable data to back up this. now, what annoys me is that masks were promoted all along as well. it's consequence free, you know, even if they don't have any benefit, well, what's the harm ? and if you're a moral harm? and if you're a moral person, you should . and i think person, you should. and i think that was a really bad , bad

that was a really bad, bad starting point for the argument because i think masks did have bad negative consequences . child bad negative consequences. child development for children. oh 100. people who rely on lip reading and communication problems. but i think also just particularly for elderly people , people who live alone, you know, seeing somebody smile on your daily walk or your interactions in shop actually makes such a difference to your mental health. and we were denied that. and also for the ewbbebbe— denied that. and also for the autistic community. - w2bi;“ bi;w2 and also for the autistic community. yeah, forget bbeb.— autistic community. yeah, forget bbeb. b— autistic community. yeah, forget bbeb. b meew— autistic community. yeah, forget bbeb. b b— autistic community. yeah, forget that. i mean, i, i've— autistic community. yeah, forget that. i mean, i, i've got a meme— that. i mean, i, i've got a bebenb wne— that. i mean, i, i've got a friend who her- that. i mean, i, i've got a friend who her lad is 16 years eeweeeby— friend who her lad is 16 years severely autistic,— friend who her lad is 16 years severely autistic, couldn't wear a severely autistic, couldn't wear e beee— severely autistic, couldn't wear e beee meek.— severely autistic, couldn't wear a face mask. she— severely autistic, couldn't wear a face mask. she just couldn't eebe— a face mask. she just couldn't eebe wbbb— a face mask. she just couldn't eebe wbbb bb— a face mask. she just couldn't cope with it. but— a face mask. she just couldn't cope with it. but it's a big ebeeeebno— cope with it. but it's a big strapping. yeah. and you can't bebb— strapping. yeah. and you can't bebb by— strapping. yeah. and you can't tell by looking— strapping. yeah. and you can't tell by looking at— strapping. yeah. and you can't tell by looking at him. and she eebwebby— tell by looking at him. and she was actually screamed out on the bwbe— was actually screamed out on the bwbe-nee— was actually screamed out on the bwbe-neelyeee- was actually screamed out on the tube - her-year old - was actually screamed out on the tube her year old lad tube because her 16 year old lad wee-weeebne— tube because her 16 year old lad wee-weeebne e— tube because her 16 year old lad was-wearing a face- tube because her 16 year old lad was wearing a face mask. was not wearing a face mask. ye..— was not wearing a face mask. bee. b— was not wearing a face mask. bee. b m— was not wearing a face mask. bee. b wbbb— was not wearing a face mask. yes, i can still remember- was not wearing a face mask. yes, i can still remember people pointing me saying because pointing to me saying because perhaps slipped perhaps my mask had slipped a bit i think get stuck up. bit and i think get stuck up. yeah, i'm wearing this. martin bit and i think get stuck up. yeiti, i'm wearing this. martin bit and i think get stuck up. yeit slipped aaring this. martin bit and i think get stuck up. yeit slipped like g this. martin bit and i think get stuck up. yeit slipped like mind. martin bit and i think get stuck up. yeit slipped like mind yourttin bit and i think get stuck up. yeit slipped like mind your own if it slipped like mind your own business, just like if you if you feel that strongly about it and you're scared , just and you're that scared, just lock down home.

lock yourself down at home. like, don't in public. like, don't go out in public. bben— like, don't go out in public. bben bbey— like, don't go out in public. then they should— like, don't go out in public. then they should an- like, don't go out in public. then they should an a- like, don't go out in public. then they should an a form, a big part of the public inquiry into covid, which is starting, i think any time soon and will last at least five years and possibly. yes, last at least five years and possibly . yes, yes. last at least five years and possibly. yes, yes. and last at least five years and possibly . yes, yes. and to be possibly. yes, yes. and to be fair, i think that's actually quite important. i think the government do need to be held to account. i think the public deserve it. yes, exactly. and i tell us where the evidence came on. the science? i'd on. what is the science? i'd love to know what the science is, the science seems to is, because the science seems to be changing depending what be changing depending on what your opinion is. the science was the your opinion is. the science was bne-bney— your opinion is. the science was the _they terrorised- the fact that they terrorised bbbe— the fact that they terrorised. bbbe—mew this deliberately, as we know been— this deliberately, as we know from .whatsapp - this deliberately, as we know from whatsapp message. �*fw“5 from the whatsapp message. what ebewb—eb— from the whatsapp message. what ebewb—eb-b-wel about the hundreds of masks i've got car at home? i know we got in my car at home? i know we never knew how long this wretched thing was to last wretched thing was going to last for. more importantly, what ebewb— for. more importantly, what about-hundreds- more importantly, what about hundreds of masks, about the hundreds of masks, wbbbbene— about the hundreds of masks, millions probably millions of masks, probably bbbbbene— billions floating around in? abeebwbeby. — billions floating around in? absolutely. i absolutely. absolutely but i bbbnb— absolutely. absolutely but i wbbb-bbe— absolutely. absolutely but i think-the most- absolutely. absolutely but i think the most damaging think one of the most damaging aspects whole aspects of the whole mask wearing for the way wearing thing for me was the way they imposed upon they were imposed upon schoolchildren what came out schoolchildren and what came out in the matt hancock whatsapp messages in the matt hancock whatsapp messawpolitical decision purely political decision because want england because they didn't want england to out of kilter

to be out of kilter with scotland. was follow my scotland. it was follow my beebee, — scotland. it was follow my leader, wasn't— scotland. it was follow my leader, wasn't it?- scotland. it was follow my leader, wasn't it? it- t 2 it was follow my leader, wasn't it? it was the menbebbby— leader, wasn't it? it was the menbebbby eb— leader, wasn't it? it was the mentality of the— leader, wasn't it? it was the mentality of the sheep, you mew— mentality of the sheep, you knew bney— mentality of the sheep, you know, they were _ mentality of the sheep, you know, they were worried to, know, they were worried down to, webb— know, they were worried down to, webblmeebe. — know, they were worried down to, well, i masks. are _ know, they were worried down to, well, masks. are we. well wearing masks. are we. well wbeebe— wearing masks. are we. well nicola sturgeon— wearing masks. are we. well nicola sturgeon just a step nicola sturgeon was just a step eneeb. — nicola sturgeon was just a step eneeb. b— nicola sturgeon was just a step eneeb. b we— nicola sturgeon was just a step ahead. i was going- nicola sturgeon was just a step ahead. wgitw t“wg ahead. i was going to say so actually during the so 2020, i was actually finishing my a—level batus i was a—level batus and then i was actually the first. so coming actually in the first. so coming into september i was then into september for i was then working school and doing working at the school and doing my same time. and my degree at the same time. and it was even asking year seven to keep face mask on like keep their face mask on like they to that. keep their face mask on like tinever to that. keep their face mask on like tinever did to that. keep their face mask on like tinever did because to that. keep their face mask on like tinever did because 110 that. keep their face mask on like tinever did because i didn'that. i never did because i didn't feel strongly about it. i didn't think that, you know, little children forced to children should be forced to wear covering all day. wear a face covering all day. but, you know, for especially for it's just like for children, it's just like this of, you know, this this piece of, you know, this face covering on you all day. and i think just disrupts and i think it just disrupts your day know, sort of just your day, you know, sort of just going school. you just should going to school. you just should be able to go to school, be able to interact with your peers without constantly without this fear constantly held teachers held over your head. teachers eeemnwwbeeeb— held over your head. teachers communicate-kids.- communicate with the kids. how did communicate with the kids. how bbeb-webb— communicate with the kids. how bbeb-webb b— communicate with the kids. how did _well, i think- communicate with the kids. how did _well, i think very. did they? well, i think very badly, very badly. this is why we're big fall in we're seeing a big fall in educational attainment across the in the most the country. but in the most depnved

the country. but in the most deprived areas, the biggest worst of all, because only worst of all, because not only were teachers enforcing mask wearing wearing masks wearing and wearing masks themselves they often themselves, they would often stand of the class stand at the front of the class and not even approach children because social distancing . because the social distancing. exactly. move to on still exactly. let's move to on still bebne— exactly. let's move to on still bebne ebbe— exactly. let's move to on still being ebbe be— exactly. let's move to on still being able to breathe easily wbbnewb— being able to breathe easily wbbnewb bbeby— being able to breathe easily without dirty cloth across your beee. — without dirty cloth across your beee. beenne— without dirty cloth across your face. joanna, this— without dirty cloth across your face. joanna, this is your ebeey— face. joanna, this is your ebeey. bbbe— face. joanna, this is your story. this is— face. joanna, this is your story. this is from the evening sbenbeeb.— story. this is from the eveningj sbenbeeeb—me standard. but this believe me, bbbe— standard. but this believe me, bbbeleembne— standard. but this believe me, this-coming to— standard. but this believe me, this-coming to a— standard. but this believe me, this coming to a city or town this is coming to a city or town near-soon. yeah,- this is coming to a city or town near-soon. yeah, it- this is coming to a city or town near soon. yeah, it is. near you soon. yeah, it is. sadiq— near you soon. yeah, it is. been bben— near you soon. yeah, it is. sadiq khan will- near you soon. yeah, it is. sadiq khan will high sadiq khan will face a high eewn— sadiq khan will face a high court challenge— sadiq khan will face a high court challenge this summer over his court challenge this summer over be be— court challenge this summer over nbe bbeb be— court challenge this summer over his bid to expand— court challenge this summer over his bid to expand the ulez. so bbbe— his bid to expand the ulez. so bbbe be— his bid to expand the ulez. so bbbe be bbe— his bid to expand the ulez. so this is the london— his bid to expand the ulez. so this is the london low- his bid to expand the ulez. so this is the london low emission zone. happening here? zone. so what's happening here? been— zone. so what's happening here? been — zone. so what's happening here? been se— zone. so what's happening here? yeah so. so exactly.— zone. so what's happening here? yeah so. so exactly-you- so what's happening here? yeah so. clykin�*thg yeah so. so exactly. as you say, there's be a legal there's going to be a legal challenge expansion and challenge to the expansion and people saying there wasn't people saying that there wasn't sufficient consultation that that particular impact that has a particular impact upon people in the upon people who live in the buffer around the edges and buffer zone around the edges and they're going to appeal various local authority people within london are going to appeal against this. and i have to say, good, i'm very, very glad. this is several london g2 will will wg5w2 this is several london boroughs, ben-b— is several london boroughs, ben-b bbb— is several london boroughs, ben-b bbb — is several london boroughs, isn't it? london- is several london boroughs, isn't it? london boroughs. that's right. i think i think bneee-e— that's right. i think i think there's about— that's right. i think i think there's about eight- ” wgt1 i think i think there's about eight boroughs we-ee wb— there's about eight boroughs now. we're up to eight and a lot

of now. we're up to eight and a lot eb bnem— now. we're up to eight and a lot eb bnem ee— now. we're up to eight and a lot of them are poorer— now. we're up to eight and a lot of them are poorer boroughs like beebbne— of them are poorer boroughs likei barking—newham, barking and dagenham, newham, wneee— barking and dagenham, newham, wneee-beebbe— where a lot of people drive bbeb— where a lot of people drive their-white - where a lot of people drive their white vans. where a lot of people drive- their-white vans. .and their their white vans. yes. and it's their their white vans. yes. and bb-e-eeeb— their their white vans. yes. and it's-cost them- their their white vans. yes. and it's-cost them £12,- their their white vans. yes. and it's cost them £12, 50 it's going to cost them £12, 50 an it's going to cost them £12, 50 en newe— it's going to cost them £12, 50 en new be— it's going to cost them £12, 50 an hour to drive— it's going to cost them £12, 50 an hour to drive in— it's going to cost them £12, 50 an hour to drive in any part. ane— an hour to drive in any part. ame en— an hour to drive in any part. ame en beb— an hour to drive in any part. ame en beb eb— an hour to drive in any part. and on top of the congestion chargee— and on top of the congestion chargee ne— and on top of the congestion charge, no, absolutely. t“ charge, no, absolutely. i mean, it charge, no, absolutely. i mean, bb eeeme— charge, no, absolutely. i mean, bb be— charge, no, absolutely. i mean, it seems to me— charge, no, absolutely. i mean, it seems to me that that sadiq khan's on an anti—car khan's been on an anti—car crusade essentially exactly khan's been on an anti—car crlyouz essentially exactly khan's been on an anti—car crlyou say,entially exactly khan's been on an anti—car crlyou say, ortially exactly khan's been on an anti—car crlyou say, or much exactly khan's been on an anti—car crlyou say, or much like actly khan's been on an anti—car crlyou say, or much like the( as you say, or much like the local authority leaders in different parts of the country. i'm from canterbury and canterbury the most canterbury has the most ludicrous 15 minute city plan. whatever you want to call it, in sections. we're being divided into sections. but but canterbury, for viewers who are unfamiliar , it's very, very it's unfamiliar, it's very, very it's not really a city at all. i mean, it's got the label of city, but it's a town essentially with a very small population. and the bonkers thing about particularly canterbury, i'm it's canterbury, but i'm sure it's the same in other places, it will actually , think, to will actually, i think, lead to more emissions because for me to drop daughter off at school, drop my daughter off at school, for i will to for example, i will have to drive out, out all the way around the ring road and back in through other end. mean, through the other end. i mean, it makes sense, but this has

it makes no sense, but this has been pushed through because it's like crusade. but it like an anti car crusade. but it really ignores the reality of people's lives. he says it's going— people's lives. he says it's going be— people's lives. he says it's going be eeye— people's lives. he says it's going to save 4000- t he says it's going to save 4000 lives again, wneee— going to save 4000 lives again, wneee be— going to save 4000 lives again, wneee be bne— going to save 4000 lives again, where is the scientific evidence? - where is the scientific evidence? �*vw�* ”wi; where is the scientific evidence? �*fw“bi;”wi; where is the scientific- evidence? where is the science again, everyone? where is the science ? and i think i just echo science? and i think i just echo everything that she said. and i'm actually from canterbury as well. my family's all from there. so i know canterbury very well. and i think this is just, again, the government just trying to control our lives again . this is the man and well, again. this is the man and well, oh , sorry. the mayor. yes. and oh, sorry. the mayor. yes. and well, again , and this is just well, again, and this is just being pushed through again . and being pushed through again. and i not see the point of this. i do not see the point of this. i do not see the point of this. i think it's again, this like climate agenda. again, just like i think that this will just do more harm than good. okay. we have to move on. _ more harm than good. okay. we have to move on. i'm telling you, this the tories best you, this is the tories best chance kicked labour out chance to get kicked labour out because is unpopular. yes because it is so unpopular. yes thank you. anna mcgovern and jonah— thank you. anna mcgovern and jonah williams. _ thank you. anna mcgovern and jonah williams. she'll be back bebee— jonah williams. she'll be back bnee-bebb.— jonah williams. she'll be back later-right.-to- jonah williams. she'll be back later right. to come in later on right. more to come in bne— later on right. more to come in me newb— later on right. more to come in the next hour.— later on right. more to come in the next hour.-be- later on right. more to come in the next hour. be bringing the next hour. we'll be bringing you the next hour. we'll be bringing yew-en— the next hour. we'll be bringing you-on scotland's- you the latest on scotland's gentee— you the latest on scotland's eenebe-bbb— you the latest on scotland's gender-bill-thel gender reform bill and the coronation. _ gender reform bill and the coronation. -is- gender reform bill and the

coronation. is news, coronation. this is gb news, bebbebn-e— coronation. this is gb news, britain's news— coronation. this is gb news, britain's news channel. hello wneee— britain's news channel. hello bbeee .— britain's news channel. hello there . welcome— britain's news channel. hello there . welcome to your thursday there. welcome to your thursday weather update from the met office. i'm clare nasir. weather update from the met office. i'm clare nasir . still office. i'm clare nasir. still showery out there. some sunshine coming through. we've lost the sting in the wind, which is good news. still fresh, low news. but still fresh, low pressure sinking down towards the low countries. you can see this area of cloud and rain waiting in the wings that will bnng waiting in the wings that will bring weather across to bring some wet weather across to more friday. more southern parts on friday. before , though, low before that, though, low pressure firmly charge and pressure firmly in charge and that means more showers . some that means more showers. some dry across central parts dry weather across central parts of england wales, but of england and wales, but further north, always a swathe of clouds, showery bursts of rain, which could turn heavy later. then we'll see more cloud just encroaching across the southwest. before that, some just encroaching across the sou�*weather before that, some just encroaching across the sou�*weather to before that, some just encroaching across the sou�*weather to endire that, some just encroaching across the sou�*weather to end the hat, some just encroaching across the sou�*weather to end the day some just encroaching across the sou�*weather to end the day as�*ne dry weather to end the day as temperatures climb to around 10 to 14 c. so slightly higher than yesterday . now a through yesterday. now a through thursday evening and overnight, that shower rain continues across the north as well as the east. you can see some clearer skies where we could see a touch of frost before thickening cloud bnngs of frost before thickening cloud brings some outbreaks of rain towards country through

towards the west country through the of the morning. the early hours of the morning. it going a cold night it is going to be a cold night away from the southwest where it will but showers will will be wet, but showers will continue far north of continue across the far north of scotland. and here see scotland. and here we'll see temperatures four temperatures holding around four degrees up degrees celsius, picking up again head into tomorrow again as we head into tomorrow morning. once sun gets to morning. once the sun gets to work first thing. then on friday morning, this rain skirts central parts central southern parts of england wales lingering england and wales lingering towards the east. showers develop inland . they will develop inland. they will develop inland. they will develop readily tomorrow. the likes of be heavy with the risk of thunder and you can see some intense particularly intense bursts, particularly across the eastern side of the country. weather to country. brighter weather to end the this time the the day. this time across the western side of scotland well the day. this time across the we northerne of scotland well the day. this time across the we northern ireland.land well the day. this time across the we northern ireland. and well as northern ireland. and temperatures here 12 13 c. temperatures here 12 or 13 c. here's your outlook through saturday. some showery bursts yet again towards the east. dry skies elsewhere after a bit of a frosty start. but at least, though, you'll see some sunshine and light wind. though, you'll see some sunshine and light wind . temperatures, and a light wind. temperatures, though, through the next few days it is days are slowly rising. it is going to feel warmer. there will be some sunshine in the mix, but always more cloud and little always more cloud and a little rain towards north as

by late. it's 11 i by— late. it's 11 am. this ibv— late. it's 11 am. this is by late. it's 11 am. this is to bne— late. it's 11 am. this is to me bebnb— late. it's 11 am. this is to the point on— late. it's 11 am. this is to the point on gb- it's 11 am. this is to the point on gb news with me anbeew— the point on gb news with me andrew pierce— the point on gb news with me andrew pierce and dawn neesom. beyb— andrew pierce and dawn neesom. beyb ow— andrew pierce and dawn neesom. beyb ow nee— andrew pierce and dawn neesom. beyb on be ee— andrew pierce and dawn neesom. yayi oh, her as he— andrew pierce and dawn neesom. yayi oh, her as he calls me, ebenb. — yayi oh, her as he calls me, ebenb. meny— yayi oh, her as he calls me, ebenb. new be— yayi oh, her as he calls me, right. wtbiwti“ t“wg yayi oh, her as he calls me, right. wt.witwti“ t“wg gt“ right. harry is coming. megan isn't the latest. will they? won't they? windsor saga is oven won't they? windsor saga is over. we'll have plenty of right royal debate and gossip. got some good stories on this one. coronation build up . we're with coronation build up. we're with joe bbeen— coronation build up. we're with joe bbeen bn— coronation build up. we're with joe biden in ireland.— 2 t. we're with joe biden in ireland. he's going to joe biden in ireland. he's going be ebbeeee— joe biden in ireland. he's going to address the— joe biden in ireland. he's going to address the irish parliament. ane— to address the irish parliament. ame weee— to address the irish parliament. and we're also— to address the irish parliament. and we're also on— to address the irish parliament. and we're also on gaffe watch be by— and we're also on gaffe watch bee by my— and we're also on gaffe watch because, by my word, did he make a because, by my word, did he make e eneebee— because, by my word, did he make e eneebee eb— because, by my word, did he make a shocker of one— because, by my word, did he make a shocker of one about the rugby been,— a shocker of one about the rugby beem, wbben— a shocker of one about the rugby team, which he— a shocker of one about the rugby team, which he got— a shocker of one about the rugby team, which he got horribly , team, which he got horribly, neeebbby— team, which he got horribly, horribly wrong? t“ team, which he got horribly, horribly wrong? i mean, he wen-b— horribly wrong? i mean, he wasn't a publicity total, so hasn't even got that excuse that we had. right meanwhile, scotland's first minister, humza yousaf, preparing yousaf, is preparing for a constitutional showdown with the uk government over his bill to allow year olds, 15.5 allow 16 year olds, 15.5 actually to change their gender. it's mad and we've got an eewebbwe— it's mad and we've got an exclusive report- it's mad and we've got an exclusive report on a rebellion

eeebneb— exclusive report on a rebellion eoebneb beb— exclusive report on a rebellion against keir starmer by labour eebbwbebe— against keir starmer by labour activists over— against keir starmer by labour activists over his— against keir starmer by labour activists over his flip flowing-— activists over his flip flopping. he does a lot of that ,_e...ege.de.- , this time on transgender menbe— , this time on transgender ebenbe .— , this time on transgender ebonbe . bwb— , this time on transgender rights. but this , this time on transgender rights . but this is , this time on transgender rights. but this is all about wbeb— rights. but this is all about we yew— rights. but this is all about what you think,— rights. but this is all about what you think, not what he bnbnbe— what you think, not what he bnbnbe neb— what you think, not what he thinks, not what— what you think, not what he thinks, not what i think. beewee— thinks, not what i think. because we're— thinks, not what i think. because we're not- thinks, not what i think. because we're not that important. we're just reading stuff. so let us know your thoughts on all these talking points today. us at gb points today. email us at gb views gb views .uk. but views at gb views .uk. but first, is your morning news first, here is your morning news roundup bethany elsey . roundup with bethany elsey. good morning. it's 11:01. roundup with bethany elsey. good morning. it's11:01. i'm bebneny— good morning. it's11:01. i'm bebneny bbeey— good morning. it's11:01. i'm bethany elsey with your top ebeebee— bethany elsey with your top stories from _ bethany elsey with your top stories from the— bethany elsey with your top stories from the gb newsroom. bne— stories from the gb newsroom. the chancellor— stories from the gb newsroom. the chancellor says the outlook for the chancellor says the outlook bee bne— the chancellor says the outlook bee bne wb— the chancellor says the outlook for the uk economy is brighter bben— for the uk economy is brighter than expected. _ for the uk economy is brighter than expected. that's despite bbeweee— than expected. that's despite new figures showing there was no eeewbn — new figures showing there was no eeewbn bn— new figures showing there was no growth in february.— new figures showing there was no growth in february. data from the growth in february. data from me ebbbee— growth in february. data from the office for— growth in february. data from the office for national statistics— the office for national statistics shows a 0.4% decrease in statistics shows a 0.4% decrease bn eeeee— statistics shows a 0.4% decrease in gross domestic— statistics shows a 0.4% decrease in gross domestic product from tenweey. — in gross domestic product from tenweey. bne— in gross domestic product from january. the service sector fell wbbb— january. the service sector fell wbbb bne— january. the service sector fell wbbb bne ons— january. the service sector fell with the ons blaming strike

eebben— with the ons blaming strike eebben by— with the ons blaming strike action by teachers and civil eewenbe— action by teachers and civil eewenbe. a— action by teachers and civil servants. a fall— action by teachers and civil servants. a fall in gas and ebeebebe— servants. a fall in gas and electric usage— servants. a fall in gas and electric usage due to milder weebnee— electric usage due to milder weebnee wee— electric usage due to milder weather was also responsible . weather was also responsible. bwb— weather was also responsible. bwb bne— weather was also responsible. but the figures— weather was also responsible. but the figures do show gdp grew ebbe— but the figures do show gdp grew ebbe bn— but the figures do show gdp grew ebbe bn bne— but the figures do show gdp grew 0.1% in the three— but the figures do show gdp grew 0.1% in the three months to bebeweey— 0.1% in the three months to bebeweey .— 0.1% in the three months to february . jeremy hunt says the february. jeremy hunt says the uk february. jeremy hunt says the bb be— february. jeremy hunt says the uk be eeb— february. jeremy hunt says the uk be eeb be— february. jeremy hunt says the uk is set to avoid— february. jeremy hunt says the uk is set to avoid a recession . uk is set to avoid a recession. bne— uk is set to avoid a recession. bne us— uk is set to avoid a recession. the us president— uk is set to avoid a recession. the us president joe biden will ebbeeee— the us president joe biden will ebbeeee bne— the us president joe biden will address the irish— the us president joe biden will address the irish parliament bebey— address the irish parliament bebey eneb— address the irish parliament today and meet— address the irish parliament today and meet with taoiseach leo today and meet with taoiseach bee veeebbee— today and meet with taoiseach leo varadkar as— today and meet with taoiseach leo varadkar as his visit eenbbnwee — leo varadkar as his visit continues. and we're showing you live continues. and we're showing you be bbebweee— continues. and we're showing you be bbebweee new— continues. and we're showing you live pictures now from the beebwbbbe— live pictures now from the nebwbbbe eb— live pictures now from the republic of ireland . the republic of ireland. the president— republic of ireland. the president is— republic of ireland. the president is due to meet with beebenb-e— president is due to meet with ireland's president, michael d wbeebne — ireland's president, michael d wbeebne ane— ireland's president, michael d wbeebne ame eb— ireland's president, michael d higgins. and of course, we'll bebne— higgins. and of course, we'll bring yew— higgins. and of course, we'll bring you those— higgins. and of course, we'll bring you those live pictures as enb— bring you those live pictures as end wnen— bring you those live pictures as end wnen we— bring you those live pictures as and when we get— bring you those live pictures as and when we get them. president bbben— and when we get them. president bbben wbbb— and when we get them. president biden will spend— and when we get them. president biden will spend three days in the biden will spend three days in me bebwbbbe— biden will spend three days in the republic of— biden will spend three days in the republic of ireland after newne— the republic of ireland after newbne eeenb— the republic of ireland after newbne ebenb e— the republic of ireland after having spent a short time in weebneen— having spent a short time in northern ireland to mark the bebn— northern ireland to mark the 25th anniversary— northern ireland to mark the 25th anniversary of the good bebbey— 25th anniversary of the good friday agreement . but yesterday, friday agreement. but yesterday, bnewew— friday agreement. but yesterday, though, thousands— friday agreement. but yesterday, though, thousands greeted to meeb— though, thousands greeted to meeb nbm — though, thousands greeted to meeb nm em— though, thousands greeted to meet him on a— though, thousands greeted to meet him on a tour of his eneeebeeb— meet him on a tour of his ancestral homeland and in a ebeeew— ancestral homeland and in a ebeeew bee— ancestral homeland and in a speech, joe biden said it felt bbbe— speech, joe biden said it felt bbbe eembne— speech, joe biden said it felt like coming home. i said last bbme— like coming home. i said last bbme b— like coming home. i said last

bbme b we— like coming home. i said last time i was here,— like coming home. i said last time i was here, in a sense, i mew— time i was here, in a sense, i knew wny— time i was here, in a sense, i knew wny my— time i was here, in a sense, i know why my ancestors and many of know why my ancestors and many eb yewe— know why my ancestors and many of your relatives— know why my ancestors and many of your relatives left— know why my ancestors and many of your relatives left during bne— of your relatives left during bne bembne— of your relatives left during the famine . _ of your relatives left during the famine. “2 of your relatives left during the famine . “2 the famine. and but, you know, when you're here, you wonder why anyone would ever want to leave . i mean it. so so it's good to be— . i mean it. so so it's good to be back . 74 year old- i mean it. so e g2 t 74 year old man has be back. 74 year old man has been— be back. 74 year old man has been extradite— be back. 74 year old man has been extradite ,— t 74 year old man has been extradite , looted from been extradite, looted from bebbeben— been extradite, looted from pakistan and _ been extradite, looted from pakistan and charged with the mweee— pakistan and charged with the mweeeb eb— pakistan and charged with the mweeeb eb e— pakistan and charged with the murder of a female police ebbbeee— murder of a female police officer for— murder of a female police officer for over— murder of a female police officer for over 17 years ago. 38 officer for over 17 years ago. be yeee— officer for over 17 years ago. be yeee ebb— officer for over 17 years ago. 38 year old pc— officer for over 17 years ago. 38 year old pc sharon beshenivsky- 38 year old pc sharon beshenivsky was shot in 2005 wbbbe— beshenivsky was shot in 2005 while responding— beshenivsky was shot in 2005 while responding to a robbery in beebbeeeb— while responding to a robbery in bradford. piran— while responding to a robbery in bradford. piran ditta khan is bwe— bradford. piran ditta khan is we be— bradford. piran ditta khan is we be ebbeee— bradford. piran ditta khan is due to appear at westminster weebebeebee— due to appear at westminster magistrates court later. police wbbb— magistrates court later. police wbbb eeeneb— magistrates court later. police will spend less— magistrates court later. police will spend less time dealing wbbb— will spend less time dealing wbbb eeebeb— will spend less time dealing with social media spats and more bbme— with social media spats and more bbme eeebenebne— with social media spats and more time responding to— with social media spats and more time responding to crime on the ebeeebe— time responding to crime on the ebeeebe wneee— time responding to crime on the streets under new— time responding to crime on the streets under new home office bbene— streets under new home office plans, officers— streets under new home office plans, officers will only have to plans, officers will only have be eeenb— plans, officers will only have to record social— plans, officers will only have to record social media cases as if to record social media cases as bb bney— to record social media cases as bb bney eeee— to record social media cases as if they cross the— to record social media cases as if they cross the criminal threshold. _ if they cross the criminal threshold. the- if they cross the criminal threshold. the move is part of a eb— threshold. the move is part of a series of measures— threshold. the move is part of a series of measures to cut what bne— series of measures to cut what we oeweenmenb— series of measures to cut what

the government has described as wnneeeeeeey eeb— the government has described as unnecessary red tape. the webbeneb— unnecessary red tape. the national police- unnecessary red tape. the national police chiefs council eeye— national police chiefs council says more than— national police chiefs council says more than 440,000 officer bewee— says more than 440,000 officer hours are spent— says more than 440,000 officer hours are spent on— says more than 440,000 officer hours are spent on admin tasks , hours are spent on admin tasks, bembne— hours are spent on admin tasks, policing minister— hours are spent on admin tasks, policing minister chris philp bebb— policing minister chris philp bebb we— policing minister chris philp bebb we bbe— policing minister chris philp told us it's the— policing minister chris philp told us it's the right step beeweeeb— told us it's the right step forward. the— told us it's the right step forward. the public expect the bebne— forward. the public expect the bebbee be— forward. the public expect the bebbee be be— forward. the public expect the police to be catching criminals enb— police to be catching criminals ene beebbne— police to be catching criminals and keeping them safe and that's wbeb— and keeping them safe and that's wneb bbeee— and keeping them safe and that's what these changes are designed to what these changes are designed be-be— what these changes are designed be-be . — what these changes are designed be-be . webewy— what these changes are designed to-do . nobody-thel to help do. nobody wants the police be wasting time on police to be wasting time on unnecessary of course unnecessary paperwork. of course you've got to unnecessary paperwork. of course ye eeb be beeb— unnecessary paperwork. of course you've got to keep proper- you've got to keep proper records. 0 it you've got to keep proper records. obviously, but got records. obviously, but it's got a too far and we're tipping a bit too far and we're tipping the balance and i think the balance back. and i think saving half 1,000,000 saving nearly half 1,000,000 hours a year of police time is a really important step forward. the of a woman has been the body of a woman has been bewnb—en— the body of a woman has been bewnb—en bne- the body of a woman has been found on the beach found washed up on the beach ebbee— found washed up on the beach ebbee e— found washed up on the beach after a search— found washed up on the beach after a search operation off eebebben— after a search operation off brighton palace— after a search operation off brighton palace pier. coastguard nebbeebbeee— brighton palace pier. coastguard helicopters and— brighton palace pier. coastguard helicopters and rnli lifeboats were involved _ helicopters and rnli lifeboats were involved in— helicopters and rnli lifeboats were involved in the rescue ebbew— were involved in the rescue effort, which _ were involved in the rescue effort, which was launched yeebeeeey— effort, which was launched yesterday afternoon after a eebeeb— yesterday afternoon after a eebeeb eb— yesterday afternoon after a eebeeb eb e— yesterday afternoon after a report of a person in the sea. bne— report of a person in the sea. bne beew— report of a person in the sea. the heavy winds— report of a person in the sea. the heavy winds have storm. noah had the heavy winds have storm. noah nee meee— the heavy winds have storm. noah had made search— the heavy winds have storm. noah had made search efforts enebbenebne— had made search efforts challenging and sussex police say challenging and sussex police eey en— challenging and sussex police say an investigation is underway . a eeweenmenb—

say an investigation is underway . a government minister is eebbbne— . a government minister is eebbbne en— . a government minister is calling on junior doctors to ewebenb— calling on junior doctors to suspend what— calling on junior doctors to suspend what he calls extreme damaging— suspend what he calls extreme damaging strike— suspend what he calls extreme damaging strike action while bebbe— damaging strike action while bebbe bebe— damaging strike action while talks take place. thousands of mebbee— talks take place. thousands of mebbee wbbb— talks take place. thousands of medics with the— talks take place. thousands of medics with the bma in england are medics with the bma in england webbbne— medics with the bma in england are walking out— medics with the bma in england are walking out for the third of bewe— are walking out for the third of bewe eeye— are walking out for the third of bewe eeye eb— are walking out for the third of four days of industrial action bbbe— four days of industrial action bbbe weeb. — four days of industrial action this week. the— four days of industrial action this week. the conciliation eeewbee— this week. the conciliation service acas_ this week. the conciliation service acas has said it's ready to service acas has said it's ready be bebb— service acas has said it's ready be nebb beekee— service acas has said it's ready to help broker talks to resolve the to help broker talks to resolve bne bey— to help broker talks to resolve bne bey ebeewbe— to help broker talks to resolve the pay dispute. policing wbbnbebee— the pay dispute. policing minister chris— the pay dispute. policing minister chris philp says the eeweenmenb— minister chris philp says the government is— minister chris philp says the government is prepared to neoebbebe— government is prepared to negotiate late,— government is prepared to negotiate late, but pay demands mweb— negotiate late, but pay demands mweb be— negotiate late, but pay demands must be reasonable. downing ebeeeb— must be reasonable. downing ebeeeb neb— must be reasonable. downing street had previously refused to bebb— street had previously refused to bebb wneee— street had previously refused to talk unless the— street had previously refused to talk unless the request of a 35% pay talk unless the request of a 35% bey ebee— talk unless the request of a 35% bey wee— talk unless the request of a 35% pay rise was dropped . but donald pay rise was dropped. but donald bewmb— pay rise was dropped. but donald bewmb be— pay rise was dropped. but donald bewmb be ewbne— pay rise was dropped. but donald trump is suing his— pay rise was dropped. but donald trump is suing his former bewyew— trump is suing his former lawyer, michael cohen for £400 mbbbben. — lawyer, michael cohen for £400 mbbbben. bne— lawyer, michael cohen for £400 million. the former us president is million. the former us president be eeebbne— million. the former us president is seeking damages after cohen beebbbbeb— is seeking damages after cohen testified before— is seeking damages after cohen testified before the manhattan eeeneb— testified before the manhattan eeeme bwey— testified before the manhattan oeene bwey bbeb— testified before the manhattan grand jury that indicted him. bewmb— grand jury that indicted him. bewmb nee— grand jury that indicted him. trump has accused cohen of being— trump has accused cohen of bebbbne be— trump has accused cohen of failing to honour— trump has accused cohen of failing to honour a attorney ebbenb— failing to honour a attorney client confidentiality and of beebbbbne— client confidentiality and of beebbbbno by— client confidentiality and of profiting by spreading falsehoods— profiting by spreading falsehoods about him. cohen's bewyee— falsehoods about him. cohen's bewyee eebbeb — falsehoods about him. cohen's lawyer called the— falsehoods about him. cohen's lawyer called the lawsuit bebwebewe— lawyer called the lawsuit bebwebewe .— lawyer called the lawsuit frivolous . london's waterloo has frivolous. london's waterloo has been— frivolous. london's waterloo has

been beewenb— frivolous. london's waterloo has been brought to— frivolous. london's waterloo has been brought to a— frivolous. london's waterloo has been brought to a standstill embe— been brought to a standstill embb e— been brought to a standstill embb e met-ee— been brought to a standstill amid a major signalling problem . sewbn— amid a major signalling problem . south western— amid a major signalling problem . south western railway is weenbne— . south western railway is warning commuters to avoid the ebebben— warning commuters to avoid the ebebben wbbb— warning commuters to avoid the station with widespread ebeewbbben— station with widespread disruption and a significantly eebweeb— disruption and a significantly reduced service— disruption and a significantly reduced service .— disruption and a significantly reduced service . engineers are reduced service. engineers are weebbne— reduced service. engineers are weebbne be— reduced service. engineers are weebbne be be— reduced service. engineers are working to fix the problem, but it's working to fix the problem, but be eebeebeb — working to fix the problem, but it's expected to— working to fix the problem, but it's expected to last for most of it's expected to last for most eb bne — it's expected to last for most eb bne bey— it's expected to last for most eb bne eey .— it's expected to last for most of the day . and— it's expected to last for most of the day . and the royal mint of the day. and the royal mint is of the day. and the royal mint be eeb— of the day. and the royal mint be eeb be— of the day. and the royal mint is set to release— of the day. and the royal mint is set to release a— of the day. and the royal mint is set to release a new range of commemorative— is set to release a new range of commemorative coins featuring a eewneb— commemorative coins featuring a eewneb beebeebb— commemorative coins featuring a crowned portrait of— commemorative coins featuring a crowned portrait of the king for the crowned portrait of the king for me weey— crowned portrait of the king for me weey bbeb— crowned portrait of the king for the very first time. the collection _ the very first time. the collection depicts king charles iii, collection depicts king charles bwb weeebne— collection depicts king charles iii, wearing the— collection depicts king charles iii, wearing the tudor crown, wnben— iii, wearing the tudor crown, wnben ne— iii, wearing the tudor crown, which he personally chose for the which he personally chose for me beebeebb. — which he personally chose for me beebeebb. a— which he personally chose for the portrait. a £0.50 and a £5 ebn— the portrait. a £0.50 and a £5 wbbb— the portrait. a £0.50 and a £5 wbbb be— the portrait. a £0.50 and a £5 coin will be released later this memb— coin will be released later this menbn ebeeeb— coin will be released later this month ahead of— coin will be released later this month ahead of the coronation in bwey. — month ahead of the coronation in bwey. bbbe— month ahead of the coronation in bwey. bbbe be— month ahead of the coronation in bwey. me be eb— month ahead of the coronation in may. this is gb news. we'll bebne— may. this is gb news. we'll bring yew— may. this is gb news. we'll bring you more— may. this is gb news. we'll bring you more news as it nebbene.— bring you more news as it nebbene. wew— bring you more news as it happens. now it's back to andrew and happens. now it's back to andrew ene bewn— happens. now it's back to andrew ene bewn .— and dawn. |well,- and dawn. well, everyone's talking about harry and meghan. it's surprising every front page page worldwide. it's a huge story.

i've had calls from all around the world about it and the lots . so richard says , interesting, . so richard says, interesting, richard. it'll be interesting to see if netflix come with harry. maybe they need more money. netflix will need harry and meghan to still be seen in a royal context because otherwise they're irrelevant. i'm still a little they're irrelevant. i'm still a bbbbbe bbb— they're irrelevant. i'm still a little bit cynical. _ they're irrelevant. i'm still a little bit cynical. i- ”wi; i'm still a little bit cynical. i know weenen— little bit cynical. i know meghan isn't- little bit cynical. i know meghan isn't coming because it's weebbe-e— meghan isn't coming because it's weebbe-e bewebn— meghan isn't coming because it's archie's fourth birthday, right 7 archie's fourth birthday, right b bb— archie's fourth birthday, right b bb eeeb— archie's fourth birthday, right b bb eeeb eb— archie's fourth birthday, right ? it sort of snuck up on them. no ? it sort of snuck up on them. we ee— ? it sort of snuck up on them. no one realises— ? it sort of snuck up on them. no one realises his fourth bbebnbey— no one realises his fourth birthday has— no one realises his fourth birthday has only been happening for birthday has only been happening bee bbbe— birthday has only been happening bee bbbe bewe— birthday has only been happening for like four years— birthday has only been happening for like four years now. but i'm ebbonbby— for like four years now. but i'm ebbonbby eynbeeb— for like four years now. but i'm slightly cynical that netflix eneb— slightly cynical that netflix ene ebbee— slightly cynical that netflix and other american tv companies mbenb— and other american tv companies mbenb be— and other american tv companies might be offering— and other american tv companies might be offering meghan quite a bit might be offering meghan quite a bbb eb— might be offering meghan quite a bbb eb meney— might be offering meghan quite a bbb eb meney be— might be offering meghan quite a bit of money to commentate from cebbbeenbe.— bit of money to commentate from cebbbeenbe. b— bit of money to commentate from california. i maybe— bit of money to commentate from california. i maybe i'm just eynbeeb— california. i maybe i'm just eynbeeb bwb— california. i maybe i'm just cynical, but they are. “wigw ”wi; cynical, but they are. they're increasingly referred to as celebrities . well, absolutely. celebrities. well, absolutely. could be on a celebrity panel. yeah yeah. john. oh, john, yewee— yeah yeah. john. oh, john, ye neb— yeah yeah. john. oh, john, ye neb e— yeah yeah. john. oh, john, you're not a fan,- / yeah. john. oh, john, you're not a fan, are you? good meenbne. — you're not a fan, are you? good meenbne. ben— you're not a fan, are you? good morning. fan of— you're not a fan, are you? good morning. fan of us.— you're not a fan, are you? good morning. fan of us. obviously neb— morning. fan of us. obviously neb eb— morning. fan of us. obviously neb eb bewy— morning. fan of us. obviously not of harry and— morning. fan of us. obviously not of harry and meghan. john, you— not of harry and meghan. john, yew eey— not of harry and meghan. john, yew eey beb-e— not of harry and meghan. john, you say let's have— not of harry and meghan. john, you say let's have harry and weenen-e— you say let's have harry and meghan's title— you say let's have harry and meghan's title taken away. if

our meghan's title taken away. if eeyebby— meghan's title taken away. if our royalty wants to continue, bne— our royalty wants to continue, bne-bney— our royalty wants to continue, bne-bney bwmb- our royalty wants to continue, the they dump this the sooner they dump this bebeenewe— the sooner they dump this poisonous-the- the sooner they dump this poisonous the better . poisonous pair, the better. cneebee— poisonous pair, the better. charles needs— poisonous pair, the better. charles needs to get real and put— charles needs to get real and bwb-wnbnebne— charles needs to get real and put whinging son into place put his whinging son into place and put his whinging son into place ene ceebnne— put his whinging son into place and corinne says,— put his whinging son into place and corinne says, we'll just bbbe— and corinne says, we'll just bbbe be— and corinne says, we'll just bbbe be eey,— and corinne says, we'll just like to say, i've— and corinne says, we'll just like to say, i've thoroughly webeneb. — like to say, i've thoroughly watched. oh,— like to say, i've thoroughly watched. ci“ like to say, i've thoroughly watched. o t“ t“ wtwi; watched. oh, this is nice. enjoyed dawn and andrew enjoyed watching dawn and andrew on with on to the point good debate with interesting and current topics. yeah, well, how nice . and yeah, well, how nice. and it's been nice working dawn been very nice working with dawn . thank very much. corinne . thank you very much. corinne as well. is that your mum's by— as well. is that your mum's by-weyb- as well. is that your mum's by-weyb - as well. is that your mum's name, by way? as well. is that your mum's- name, by-way? she's not with name, by the way? she's not with us, mum was betty. and us, sadly. my mum was betty. and let me tell you about my mum. great monarchist. she was slept outside buckingham palace the night she night before the coronation. she was pregnant with my was already pregnant with my eldest we conceived. no, eldest sister. we conceived. no, no, no, no. with my dad. no, no, no, no. with my dad. they'd married a year and they'd been married a year and they just. they were there all night and they caught just to catch of the catch a glimpse of the coronation carriage and the beautiful . she said princess beautiful. she said princess elizabeth and it stayed with her. the event for all her life, which is why it's in crazy that harry is not bringing his son. this is why i think it's so bmeeebenb— this is why i think it's so bmbeebenb. b— this is why i think it's so important. i mean, 70 years, you mew—

important. i mean, 70 years, you knew ,— important. i mean, 70 years, you bnew , weebbe— important. i mean, 70 years, you know , archie is— important. i mean, 70 years, you know , archie is old— important. i mean, 70 years, you know , archie is old enough. he's know, archie is old enough. he's bewe.— know, archie is old enough. he's bewe. we— know, archie is old enough. he's bewe. we eewbb— know, archie is old enough. he's four. he could take— know, archie is old enough. he's four. he could take part in this in four. he could take part in this bn bne— four. he could take part in this bn bne enebe— four. he could take part in this in the photo. it's— four. he could take part in this in the photo. it's so absolutely it's in the photo. it's so absolutely bb-e ee— in the photo. it's so absolutely it's so important— in the photo. it's so absolutely it's so important ,— in the photo. it's so absolutely it's so important, isn't. let's bebb— it's so important, isn't. let's bebb be— it's so important, isn't. let's bebb be ewe— it's so important, isn't. let's talk to our royal— it's so important, isn't. let's talk to our royal reporter , talk to our royal reporter, cameron walker. cameron finally, they put us out of our misery. you're outside westminster abbey where it's all going to happen. of course . yeah, it absolutely of course. yeah, it absolutely is, andrew. and of course, it nee— is, andrew. and of course, it nee been— is, andrew. and of course, it nee been e— is, andrew. and of course, it has been a pretty— ' “2 and of course, it has been a pretty turbulent bbme,— has been a pretty turbulent bbme, been-b— has been a pretty turbulent time, hasn't it,— has been a pretty turbulent time, hasn't it, between the sussexes and— time, hasn't it, between the sussexes and the rest of the beyeb— sussexes and the rest of the neyeb bembby. — sussexes and the rest of the royal family. and in the abbey bembne— royal family. and in the abbey benbnb me— royal family. and in the abbey benbnb me be— royal family. and in the abbey behind me is going be the behind me is going to be the bbeb— behind me is going to be the bbeeb bbme— behind me is going to be the first time we— behind me is going to be the first time we think that prince bewy— first time we think that prince harry—extended. harry has seen his extended bembby— harry has seen his extended bembby eme— harry has seen his extended family since a— harry has seen his extended family since a the netflix , weey— family since a the netflix series , very controversial series, very controversial webbbbx— series, very controversial netflix series— series, very controversial netflix series and b, his bombshell— netflix series and b, his bombshell memoir, spare for now, the bombshell memoir, spare for now, me bbmbne— bombshell memoir, spare for now, me bbmbne eb— bombshell memoir, spare for now, me bbmbne eb e— bombshell memoir, spare for now, the timing of a statement yeebeeeey— the timing of a statement yeebeeeey ee— the timing of a statement yesterday or the two statements beebby— yesterday or the two statements was pretty significant because we neb— was pretty significant because we had buckingham palace and the s_ we had buckingham palace and the sussex spokesperson release beebby— sussex spokesperson release beebby mweb— sussex spokesperson release pretty much identical statements eeneweb— pretty much identical statements eenewb 3— pretty much identical statements eenewb b pm— pretty much identical statements around 3 pm, which suggests to me-nee— around 3 p.m, which suggests to me-nee been— around 3 p.m, which suggests to me-has been some- around 3 pm, which suggests to me has been some level of me there has been some level of eeebeeebben— me there has been some level of cooperation there— me there has been some level of cooperation there between the bwe— cooperation there between the bwe e.emeb — cooperation there between the bwe e.emeb bwb— cooperation there between the two camps. but this is , of two camps. but this is, of course, after— two camps. but this is, of course, after months of what the new— course, after months of what the mebb b— course, after months of what the mebb b bnbnw— course, after months of what the mail, i think, describes as

beenebb— mail, i think, describes as beenebb ,— mail, i think, describes as transit , frantic— mail, i think, describes as transit , frantic ping pong transit, frantic ping pong negotiations— transit, frantic ping pong negotiations behind the scenes as negotiations behind the scenes ee be— negotiations behind the scenes as to whether— negotiations behind the scenes as to whether or— negotiations behind the scenes as to whether or not harry or weenen— as to whether or not harry or neonen wbbb— as to whether or not harry or meghan will attend the coronation. _ meghan will attend the coronation. now of course, we mew— coronation. now of course, we mew-bebnee— coronation. now of course, we know-prince harry- coronation. now of course, we know prince harry only know it's prince harry only ebbenbbne— know it's prince harry only attending coronation. some attending the coronation. some are attending the coronation. some eeeme— attending the coronation. some are seeing this— attending the coronation. some are seeing this meghan are seeing this as meghan enwbbbne— are seeing this as meghan snubbing the— are seeing this as meghan snubbing the events, considering the snubbing the events, considering we beeb— snubbing the events, considering we beeb bbeb— snubbing the events, considering the fact that-king— snubbing the events, considering the fact that king walked the fact that the king walked her the fact that the king walked nee-bne— the fact that the king walked her-the aisle- the fact that the king walked her the aisle during her her down the aisle during her webbbne— her down the aisle during her wedding-prince— her down the aisle during her wedding prince harry. then, wedding to prince harry. then, of course, there's— wedding to prince harry. then, of course, there's been reported bemenbe— of course, there's been reported bemenbe neb— of course, there's been reported demands not being met. harry wenbbne— demands not being met. harry wenbbne eeme— demands not being met. harry wanting some sort of apology beem— wanting some sort of apology beem bne— wanting some sort of apology from the royal— wanting some sort of apology from the royal family and the beee— from the royal family and the beee-beem — from the royal family and the fear from meghan that fear perhaps from meghan that she fear perhaps from meghan that ene wbbb— fear perhaps from meghan that she will receive— fear perhaps from meghan that she will receive pretty much an wnwebeembne— she will receive pretty much an unwelcoming response from the eewee— unwelcoming response from the eewee neee— unwelcoming response from the eewee beee bn— unwelcoming response from the crowds here in central london on the crowds here in central london on me eey.— crowds here in central london on me eey. bwb— crowds here in central london on me eey. bwb b— crowds here in central london on the day. but i think— crowds here in central london on the day. but i think perhaps wneb-e— the day. but i think perhaps we me— the day. but i think perhaps what's more likely is meghan wenbbne— what's more likely is meghan wenbbne be— what's more likely is meghan wanting to spend time with her. her wanting to spend time with her. we ebeeeb— wanting to spend time with her. her oldest child,— wanting to spend time with her. her oldest child, prince archie, on her oldest child, prince archie, enibewebn— her oldest child, prince archie, on fourth birthday, which is on his fourth birthday, which is of course , on the— on his fourth birthday, which is of course , on the day of the of course, on the day of the coroner mission.— of course, on the day of the coroner mission. harry has eebweneb— coroner mission. harry has eebweneb be— coroner mission. harry has returned to the— coroner mission. harry has returned to the uk a lot more ebben— returned to the uk a lot more ebben bben— returned to the uk a lot more often than meghan has. she's my— often than meghan has. she's only returned— often than meghan has. she's only returned three times since neeebb— only returned three times since weexbb bewy— only returned three times since been weeey ee— only returned three times since megxit harry as i— only returned three times since megxit harry as i said, been a lot megxit harry as i said, been a beb me— megxit harry as i said, been a lot more often,— megxit harry as i said, been a lot more often, but we're not eebeebbne— lot more often, but we're not eebeebbno bbm— lot more often, but we're not expecting him to— lot more often, but we're not expecting him to have an ebbbebeb— expecting him to have an official-in— expecting him to have an- official-in-coronation official role in the coronation bembne— official role in the coronation benbnb me— official role in the coronation behind me. he's— official role in the coronation behind me. he's only going to be bbeee— behind me. he's only going to be bbeee-e— behind me. he's only going to be there-a member— behind me. he's only going to be there-a member of— behind me. he's only going to be there a member of the there as a member of the exbenbeb— there as a member of the extended royal family. we think

bebb— extended royal family. we think new be— extended royal family. we think new be eeb— extended royal family. we think he'll be sat in— extended royal family. we think he'll be sat in rows behind the beenb— he'll be sat in rows behind the beenb eew— he'll be sat in rows behind the beenb ee— he'll be sat in rows behind the front row, as it— he'll be sat in rows behind the front row, as it were, and he's eeebebnby— front row, as it were, and he's certainly won't— front row, as it were, and he's certainly won't be,- front row, as it were, and he's certainly won't be, as we understand— certainly won't be, as we understand it,- certainly won't be, as we understand it, to be paying nemeee— understand it, to be paying nemeee be— understand it, to be paying homage to the— understand it, to be paying homage to the sovereign as would be beebbbben— homage to the sovereign as would be tradition of— homage to the sovereign as would be tradition of royal— homage to the sovereign as would be tradition of royal princes in beenewe— be tradition of royal princes in previous coronations . we're previous coronations. we're eebeebbne— previous coronations. we're expecting that— previous coronations. we're expecting that only to be prince wbbbbem — expecting that only to be prince william _speaking- expecting that only to be prince william speaking prince william. and speaking of prince wbbbbem — william. and speaking of prince wbbbbem ,— william. and speaking of prince wbbbbem , eb— william. and speaking of prince william , of course, will there william, of course, will there be reconciliation _ william, of course, will there be reconciliation between him eneb— be reconciliation between him ene bewye— be reconciliation between him ene weeeyb b— be reconciliation between him and harry? i think very unlikely is and harry? i think very unlikely be bne— and harry? i think very unlikely is the answer— and harry? i think very unlikely is the answer to— and harry? i think very unlikely is the answer to that. yes, bney-bb— is the answer to that. yes, bney-bb be— is the answer to that. yes, bney-bb be bn— is the answer to that. yes, they'll be in the same room. but it's they'll be in the same room. but bb-e-e— they'll be in the same room. but bb-e-e bbeebbne— they'll be in the same room. but it's-a fleeting visit- they'll be in the same room. but it's a fleeting visit from it's only a fleeting visit from bebnee —be - it's only a fleeting visit from prince _ be flying l prince harry. he'll be flying ebeebenb— prince harry. he'll be flying straight california, prince harry. he'll be flying strc'understand california, prince harry. he'll be flying strc'understand it,alifornia, prince harry. he'll be flying strc'understand it, to iornia, time we understand it, to spend time wbbb— we understand it, to spend time wbbb nbe— we understand it, to spend time with his family.— we understand it, to spend time with his family. but the fact bbeb— with his family. but the fact bbeb bne — with his family. but the fact that the statements have been eebeeeeb— that the statements have been eebeeeeb by— that the statements have been released by both— that the statements have been released by both camps of a eweee— released by both camps of a sweee eeeb— released by both camps of a sussex soap opera continues, beeen-b— sussex soap opera continues, beeen-b bbb— sussex soap opera continues, doesn't it? dawn— sussex soap opera continues, doesn't it? dawn and andrew, it bweb— doesn't it? dawn and andrew, it tweb-be— doesn't it? dawn and andrew, it tweb-be-bweb— doesn't it? dawn and andrew, it tweb-be-bweb ,- doesn't it? dawn and andrew, it just-to .fuel , to - doesn't it? dawn and andrew, it just-to-fuel , to the. just adds to the fuel, to the bee— just adds to the fuel, to the he, bne— just adds to the fuel, to the fire, the speculation, the headlines. _ fire, the speculation, the headlines. think from headlines. but i think from bwebbnonem— headlines. but i think from buckingham palace's perspective e-hopin9_ buckingham palace's perspective e-hoping by— buckingham palace's perspective t-nebbne by-bb- , they are hoping by doing it bbeee— , they are hoping by doing it three-before- , they are hoping by doing it three-before the- , they are hoping by doing it three before the big three weeks before the big eenbe— three weeks before the big events, one of— three weeks before the big events, one of most events, one of the most bmbeebenb— events, one of the most important days the king's important days of the king's bbbe. — important days of the king's bbbe. bney-ee— important days of the king's life. they're hoping by the time of life. they're hoping by the time eb bne— life. they're hoping by the time of the coronation,— life. they're hoping by the time of the coronation, the spotlight wbbb— of the coronation, the spotlight will .focussed _ of the coronation, the spotlight will focussed back on the will be focussed back on the king— will be focussed back on the bbme eneb— will be focussed back on the king and queen— will be focussed back on the king and queen consort david cameron. yeah,— king and queen consort david cameron. yeah, we- king and queen consort david cameron. “55 t“ ”551,w king and queen consort david cameron. / cameron. yeah, we really hope thatis cameron. yeah, we really hope that is the case. cameron look,

while i completely understand why william and king charles would be terrified to talk to, to talk to harry when he does come over here, does, does harry have any allies in the royal family? i think it's quite close to his cousin, zara. is he ? to his cousin, zara. is he? he's quite close to his cousin , he's quite close to his cousin, tente— he's quite close to his cousin, beebebee, ee— he's quite close to his cousin, beatrice, as we _ he's quite close to his cousin, beatrice, as we understand it. sne— beatrice, as we understand it. sne nee— beatrice, as we understand it. sne nee meee— beatrice, as we understand it. she has made the— beatrice, as we understand it. she has made the journey to cebbbeenbe— she has made the journey to california a— she has made the journey to california a few— she has made the journey to california a few times. they newe— california a few times. they bewe been— california a few times. they have been paparazzi photographs of have been paparazzi photographs eb bebnee— have been paparazzi photographs eb bebnee bewy— have been paparazzi photographs of prince harry and meghan, bebneeee— of prince harry and meghan, princess beatrice and her bwebeneb— princess beatrice and her husband, jack— princess beatrice and her husband, jack brooksbank , in los husband, jack brooksbank, in los aneebee— husband, jack brooksbank, in los aneebee b— husband, jack brooksbank, in los angeles. i think— husband, jack brooksbank, in los angeles. i think that was around a angeles. i think that was around e yeee— angeles. i think that was around e yeee eee— angeles. i think that was around e yeee eee .— angeles. i think that was around e yeee eee . ane— angeles. i think that was around a year ago . and also, they share a year ago. and also, they share eemy— a year ago. and also, they share eeeey, wnen— a year ago. and also, they share eeeey, wnen b— a year ago. and also, they share eeeey, wnen w eey— a year ago. and also, they share sorry, when i say beatrice, i bwoenbe— sorry, when i say beatrice, i mean eugenie apologies. and they eeeenbbebby— mean eugenie apologies. and they essentially share— mean eugenie apologies. and they essentially share frogmore eebebbe— essentially share frogmore cottagee ee— essentially share frogmore cottage, or at— essentially share frogmore cottage, or at least they did wnen— cottage, or at least they did wnen bewy— cottage, or at least they did when harry and— cottage, or at least they did when harry and meghan were away in when harry and meghan were away bn cebbbeenbe.— when harry and meghan were away in california. but— when harry and meghan were away in california. but now princess bweenbe— in california. but now princess bwoenbe eneb— in california. but now princess eugenie and her— in california. but now princess eugenie and her husband jack newe— eugenie and her husband jack bewe meweb— eugenie and her husband jack have moved to— eugenie and her husband jack have moved to portugal. the beebeebbee— have moved to portugal. the properties laying empty , isn't properties laying empty, isn't it? properties laying empty, isn't bbb ane— properties laying empty, isn't it? and prince— properties laying empty, isn't it? and prince harry, we think , it? and prince harry, we think, is it? and prince harry, we think, be eeme— it? and prince harry, we think, be going be— it? and prince harry, we think, be going be be— it? and prince harry, we think, is going to be the— it? and prince harry, we think, is going to be the last time nee— is going to be the last time ne-e ebeybno— is going to be the last time he's staying in— is going to be the last time he's staying in frogmore cottage bebeee— he's staying in frogmore cottage bebeee-eb— he's staying in frogmore cottage bebeee-eb bne — he's staying in frogmore cottage before at the coronation,

before he's at the coronation, bebeee— before he's at the coronation, before - effectively - before he's at the coronation, before effectively kicked before he's effectively kicked out before he's effectively kicked ewb bee— before he's effectively kicked out because the— before he's effectively kicked out because the lease is running ewb.— out because the lease is running ewb. se— out because the lease is running ewb. selbeee— out because the lease is running out. so.does have— out because the lease is running out. so does have some allies out. so he does have some allies , out. so he does have some allies i , out. so he does have some allies , b bnbnw— out. so he does have some allies , b bnbnw eneb— out. so he does have some allies , i think, and the— out. so he does have some allies , i think, and the king still bewee— , i think, and the king still bewee nbe— , i think, and the king still loves his son.— , i think, and the king still loves his son. obviously, we've been— loves his son. obviously, we've been-bbeb— loves his son. obviously, we've been that spokespeople been told that by spokespeople all been told that by spokespeople ebb-beeb— been told that by spokespeople ebb-beeb bew— been told that by spokespeople all-last few years. - been told that by spokespeople all last few years. but all over the last few years. but in all over the last few years. but bn-eb— all over the last few years. but bn-eb bebne— all over the last few years. but bn-eb bebne e— all over the last few years. but in of being a working in terms of being a working memeeb— in terms of being a working eneeneeb eb— in terms of being a working member of the— in terms of being a working member of the royal family, that is member of the royal family, that be ebeeeby— member of the royal family, that be ebeeeby — member of the royal family, that is clearly over. and— member of the royal family, that is clearly over. and i think the eebebben— is clearly over. and i think the relation between— is clearly over. and i think the relation between and relation between harry and wbbbbem— relation between harry and wbbbbem be— relation between harry and william is going to take a lot to william is going to take a lot be eebeb— william is going to take a lot to repair that— william is going to take a lot to repair that one. just you mew,— to repair that one. just you knew bwe— to repair that one. just you know, i've had— to repair that one. just you know, i've had another thought ebewb— know, i've had another thought ebewb wny— know, i've had another thought about why meghan will find it bbbbbewbb— about why meghan will find it bbbbbewbb eb— about why meghan will find it difficult at this— about why meghan will find it difficult at this coronation , an difficult at this coronation, an ene— difficult at this coronation, an ene wewbb— difficult at this coronation, an she would have— difficult at this coronation, an she would have to curtsy to bebe— she would have to curtsy to bebe, be — she would have to curtsy to kate, to kate,— she would have to curtsy to kate, to kate, who is a much more senior member of the royal bembby— more senior member of the royal bembby — more senior member of the royal bembby ane— more senior member of the royal family and she'd— more senior member of the royal family and she'd also- more senior member of the royal family “2 2 family and she'd also have to curtsy to the prince of wales. she is now the princess of wales. she'd have to curse him. i think it would stick in her craw because we know she hasn't liked playing second fiddle. she knew spare. knew she was marrying the spare. and didn't know what that and if she didn't know what that meant, fault for meant, that's harry's fault for not it. i look, get not explaining it. i look, i get that not explaining it. i look, i get bneb|eeebby.— not explaining it. i look, i get bneb|eeebby. b— not explaining it. i look, i get thatireally. i really- not explaining it. i look, i get thatireally. i really hate- that i really. i really hate bne— that i really. i really hate bne-bebe— that i really. i really hate the.-yoko ono- that i really. i really hate the. yoko ono thing where the. the yoko ono thing where it's the. the yoko ono thing where bb-e ebweye— the. the yoko ono thing where it's always the— the. the yoko ono thing where it's always the women's fault. i mean, because— it's always the women's fault. i mean, because it's— it's always the women's fault. i mean, because it's harry's bewn.— mean, because it's harry's bewbb-weeey-e- mean, because it's harry's fault. harry's fault. he's fault. it is harry's fault. he's bne—we—

fault. it is harry's fault. he's the—he served- fault. it is harry's fault. he'si the—he served you the royal man. he served you mew— the royal man. he served you mew-eewee— the royal man. he served you know, served armed know, he served in the armed beee— know, he served in the armed forces aslgrown_ know, he served in the armed forces as grown man. he should forces as a grown man. he should be ebbe— forces as a grown man. he should be ebbe be— forces as a grown man. he should be able to make— forces as a grown man. he should be able to make up— forces as a grown man. he should be able to make up his own mind and be able to make up his own mind ene 90— be able to make up his own mind end 90 nbe— be able to make up his own mind end 90 nbe-we.— be able to make up his own mind and go his-way. so- be able to make up his own mind and go his-way. so i- be able to make up his own mind and go his way. so i do. but and go his own way. so i do. but you— and go his own way. so i do. but yew-wneb— and go his own way. so i do. but yew-wnebb b— and go his own way. so i do. but you-what? i just.- and go his own way. so i do. but you-what? i just. i- and go his own way. so i do. but you what? i just. i just you know what? i just. i just wenb. —bnem- you know what? i just. i just want. _them to. you know what? i just. i just| want._them to be want. i just want them to be bebenbe— want. i just want them to be friends again.— want. i just want them to be friends again. they're not going to friends again. they're not going be between.— friends again. they're not going be between b— friends again. they're not going to happen. i know.— friends again. they're not going to happen. i know. i know. i. i bweby— to happen. i know. i know. i. i was lucky enough— to happen. i know. i know. i. i was lucky enough to back in the day—diana,- day interview princess diana, ebenb. — day interview princess diana, right. .children_ day interview princess diana, right. children of courage right. a children of courage eweeb — right. a children of courage award. ironically and the boysj were _was lovely were little and she was lovely wbbb— were little and she was lovely wbbb bne— were little and she was lovely with the children _ were little and she was lovely with the children that were bbeee. — with the children that were bbeee. b— with the children that were bbeee. b we— with the children that were there. i was sort- with the children that were there. i was sort of like eeweeeby— there. i was sort of like severely disabled children. and she severely disabled children. and ene wee— severely disabled children. and she was so lovely— severely disabled children. and she was so lovely about her boys . anbeew— she was so lovely about her boys . anbeew ane— she was so lovely about her boys . andrew and you— she was so lovely about her boys . andrew and you know what she eebeb— . andrew and you know what she eebe be— . andrew and you know what she eebe be me— . andrew and you know what she eebe be me eneb— . andrew and you know what she said to me and every time i get a said to me and every time i get e ebeey— said to me and every time i get e ebeey bbbe— said to me and every time i get a story like this— said to me and every time i get a story like this about the fact bneb— a story like this about the fact bbeb bney-ee— a story like this about the fact that they're not— a story like this about the fact that they're not talking, i just bnbnb— that they're not talking, i just bnbnb wneb— that they're not talking, i just think what she— that they're not talking, i just think what she said back in the day,— think what she said back in the eey, ene— think what she said back in the eey, ene beee— think what she said back in the day, she goes,-the- think what she said back in the day, she goes, the way day, she goes, i love the way wbbbbem — day, she goes, i love the way william looks— day, she goes, i love the way william looks after harry. he eeebby— william looks after harry. he eeebby be— william looks after harry. he eeebby be bweb— william looks after harry. he really is just the— william looks after harry. he really is just the best big beebnee— really is just the best big beebnee e— really is just the best big brother a little boy could have . ane— brother a little boy could have . ame yew— brother a little boy could have . and you know— brother a little boy could have . and you know what? oh, god, why— . and you know what? oh, god, wny em— . and you know what? oh, god, wny em b— . and you know what? oh, god, wny em w eeybnob— . and you know what? oh, god, why am i crying? and i just bnbnb— why am i crying? and i just mm b— why am i crying? and i just mm b bweb— why am i crying? and i just think i just go— why am i crying? and i just think i just go back to what she eebe. — think i just go back to what she eebe. bben— think i just go back to what she said. then when— think i just go back to what she said. then when the boys were bbbbbe— said. then when the boys were bbbbbe ene — said. then when the boys were little and the _ said. then when the boys were little and the situation now wneee— little and the situation now where they're _ little and the situation now where they're not even talking to where they're not even talking be ee— where they're not even talking to one another.— where they're not even talking to one another. and i just think

it's incredibly— to one another. and i just think it's incredibly sad.— to one another. and i just think it's incredibly sad. i'm sorry. bew— it's incredibly sad. i'm sorry. you knew— it's incredibly sad. i'm sorry. you know what,— it's incredibly sad. i'm sorry. you know what, dawn?- it's incredibly sad. i'm sorry. you know what, dawn? i'm sure if princess diana was still alive, she'd knocked heads she'd have knocked their heads together. hope so, together. well, you hope so, wewbbn-b— together. well, you hope so, wewbbn-b-b— together. well, you hope so, wouldn't-i know- together. well, you hope so, wouldn't-i know nowl together. well, you hope so,| wouldn't-i know now a together. well, you hope so,- wouldn't-i know now a 74 wouldn't you? i know now a 74 year old man is going to appear in today charged with the in court today charged with the murder beshenivsky, murder of pc sharon beshenivsky, who in bradford all who was killed in bradford all the back in 2005. yeah, the way back in 2005. yeah, perrin ditta extradited perrin ditta khan was extradited from and taken into from pakistan and taken into custody west yorkshire police custody at west yorkshire police station. reporter station. our national reporter paul hawkins is he's outside westminster. he's outside the magistrates courts right now. paul yeah, morning . yes, an hour paul yeah, morning. yes, an hour ago , a paul yeah, morning. yes, an hour eee , e bee— paul yeah, morning. yes, an hour eee , e bee ,— paul yeah, morning. yes, an hour ago , a person , ditta_ “55 t“ t“wg yes, an hour ago , a person , ditta khan, ago, a person, ditta khan, ebbeeeeb— ago, a person, ditta khan, ebbeeeee bee— ago, a person, ditta khan, appeared for a— ago, a person, ditta khan, appeared for a very brief neeebne. — appeared for a very brief neeebno. bb— appeared for a very brief hearing. it was only 15 minutes. bne— hearing. it was only 15 minutes. we ebeeeee— hearing. it was only 15 minutes. the charges were— hearing. it was only 15 minutes. the charges were read to him. six the charges were read to him. be eewneb— the charges were read to him. six counts, four— the charges were read to him. six counts, four of— the charges were read to him. six counts, four of them bbeeeeme— six counts, four of them firearms offences . six counts, four of them firearms offences. he's six counts, four of them firearms offences . he's also one firearms offences. he's also one for firearms offences. he's also one bee eebbeey— firearms offences. he's also one bee eebbeey eneb— firearms offences. he's also one for robbery and we— firearms offences. he's also one for robbery and we heard just weey— for robbery and we heard just weey bneb— for robbery and we heard just very brief details— for robbery and we heard just very brief details of those four bbeeeem — very brief details of those four firearm offences— very brief details of those four firearm offences in relation to weapons, including a mac ten bebbeen— weapons, including a mac ten pattern submachine gun and a mne— pattern submachine gun and a nine millimetre— pattern submachine gun and a nine millimetre pistol. but most eb— nine millimetre pistol. but most serious of all,— nine millimetre pistol. but most serious of all, he— nine millimetre pistol. but most serious of all, he is accused of

bne— serious of all, he is accused of me mweee— serious of all, he is accused of the murder of— serious of all, he is accused of the murder of pc— serious of all, he is accused of the murder of pc beshenivsky, wne— the murder of pc beshenivsky, wne wee— the murder of pc beshenivsky, who was gunned— the murder of pc beshenivsky, who was gunned down while ebbenbbne— who was gunned down while ebbenbbne e— who was gunned down while attending a robbery at a travel eeenbe— attending a robbery at a travel eeenbe bn— attending a robbery at a travel agents in bradford in 2005. the 38 agents in bradford in 2005. the be yeee— agents in bradford in 2005. the be yeee ebb— agents in bradford in 2005. the 38 year old mother of three and bwe— 38 year old mother of three and two stepchildren— 38 year old mother of three and two stepchildren had only been eewbne— two stepchildren had only been eeewbne eb— two stepchildren had only been serving at west— two stepchildren had only been serving at west yorkshire police for serving at west yorkshire police bee mne— serving at west yorkshire police for nine months.— serving at west yorkshire police for nine months. her colleague , for nine months. her colleague, pc for nine months. her colleague, bc beee— for nine months. her colleague, pc teresa millburn, was eeebeweby— pc teresa millburn, was seriously injured in the same bnebbenb— seriously injured in the same bnebbenb .— seriously injured in the same incident . six— seriously injured in the same incident . six men have already incident. six men have already been— incident. six men have already been convicted— incident. six men have already been convicted of— incident. six men have already been convicted of robbery. three of been convicted of robbery. three eb bbeee— been convicted of robbery. three eb bbeee ebe— been convicted of robbery. three of those six men— been convicted of robbery. three of those six men also were eenwbebeb— of those six men also were convicted for— of those six men also were convicted for murder and firearm ebbeneee— convicted for murder and firearm ebbeneee eneb— convicted for murder and firearm offences and two— convicted for murder and firearm offences and two for manslaughter. now khan was ebeeeb— manslaughter. now khan was ebeeeeb bn— manslaughter. now khan was charged in 2006.— manslaughter. now khan was charged in 2006. it wasn't until tenweey— charged in 2006. it wasn't until tenweey bozo— charged in 2006. it wasn't until january 2020 that— charged in 2006. it wasn't until january 2020 that police in bebbeben— january 2020 that police in pakistan arrested him. and then bbeee— pakistan arrested him. and then bbeee yeeee— pakistan arrested him. and then three years later— pakistan arrested him. and then three years later ,— pakistan arrested him. and then three years later , he's been three years later, he's been exbeebbbeb— three years later, he's been extradited back— three years later, he's been extradited back to britain , extradited back to britain, wneee— extradited back to britain, wneee bbbe— extradited back to britain, where this morning, as i said, bbeee— where this morning, as i said, bbeee wee— where this morning, as i said, bbeee e— where this morning, as i said, bbeee e weey— where this morning, as i said, there was a very brief hearing. bne— there was a very brief hearing. me ebeeeee— there was a very brief hearing. the charges were— there was a very brief hearing. the charges were read to him. we ebeeeb— the charges were read to him. we ebeeeb enby— the charges were read to him. we ebeeeb enby be— the charges were read to him. we stood only to give— the charges were read to him. we stood only to give his name and his stood only to give his name and be bebe— stood only to give his name and be eebe eb— stood only to give his name and his date of birth.— stood only to give his name and his date of birth. and now enebnee— his date of birth. and now another-has- his date of birth. and now another has been another hearing has been eenebwbeb— another hearing has been scheduled for— another hearing has been scheduled for the central cebmbneb— scheduled for the central criminal court, also known as bne—

criminal court, also known as me ebb— criminal court, also known as the old bailey. _ criminal court, also known as the old bailey. on monday . the old bailey. on monday. abbnewen— the old bailey. on monday. although—did. the old bailey. on monday. although did say the old bailey. on monday.- although_did say that although the crown did say that the although the crown did say that bne-bne— although the crown did say that the .the crown _ although the crown did say that the the crown prosecution the cps, the crown prosecution eeewbee— the cps, the crown prosecution eewee-eey— the cps, the crown prosecution service - say that _ the cps, the crown prosecution service say that they service did say that they do wenb— service did say that they do wenb bb— service did say that they do want it moved— service did say that they do want it moved to leeds crown ceweb. — want it moved to leeds crown ceweb. .eb— want it moved to leeds crown court. .at-moment- want it moved to leeds crown court. at moment it's court. but at the moment it's eenebwbeb— court. but at the moment it's scheduled .the_ court. but at the moment it's scheduled the central scheduled for the central cebmbneb— scheduled for the central criminal court, also as criminal court, also known as bne— criminal court, also known as me ebb— criminal court, also known as the old bailey. _ criminal court, also known as the old bailey. on monday . all the old bailey. on monday. all ebebb— the old bailey. on monday. all right bbeb-e— the old bailey. on monday. all right, that's fascinating story. bwb— right, that's fascinating story. bwb b— right, that's fascinating story. bwb b m— right, that's fascinating story. but i can still— right, that's fascinating story. but i can still remember- right, that's fascinating story. but i can still remember the killing of that. so shocking. it beeen-b— killing of that. so shocking. it beeen-b beeb— killing of that. so shocking. it doesn't feel like _ killing of that. so shocking. it doesn't feel like it's- cc t“wg so shocking. it doesn't feel like it's that long eee. — doesn't feel like it's that long eee. bwb— doesn't feel like it's that long we bwb ene— doesn't feel like it's that long ago. but and it's— doesn't feel like it's that long ago. 5“w2 c doesn't feel like it's that long ago. c ago. but and it's always more shocking, i'm afraid, when it's a woman murdered like that in uniform. it is. and it shouldn't nebe— uniform. it is. and it shouldn't mebe e— uniform. it is. and it shouldn't make a difference— c. t“ it is. and it shouldn't make a difference because every life make a difference because every bbbe bn— make a difference because every life in uniform— make a difference because every life in uniform is— make a difference because every life in uniform is you know, is a life in uniform is you know, is e beee.— life in uniform is you know, is e beee. bwb— life in uniform is you know, is e beee. bwb b— life in uniform is you know, is a loss. but i mean, it does make a loss. but i mean, it does make e bbbbeeenee— a loss. but i mean, it does make a difference. and— a loss. but i mean, it does make a difference. and it— a loss. but i mean, it does make a difference. and it was a neeebbb— a difference. and it was a horrific story. _ a difference. and it was a horrific story. so hopefully some justice _ horrific story. so hopefully some justice will finally be bene— some justice will finally be eeme .— some justice will finally be eeme . abb— some justice will finally be done . all right.— some justice will finally be done . all right. we're moving to done. all right. we're moving to eeebbenb— done. all right. we're moving to eeebbenb new— done. all right. we're moving to scotland now. the— done. all right. we're moving to scotland now. the scottish oeweenmenb— scotland now. the scottish. government—leader government under new leader wwmze— government under new leader wwmze bewee,— government under new leader humza yousaf, challenged the uk eeeeenbe— humza yousaf, challenged the uk government's use— humza yousaf, challenged the uk government's use of section 35 of government's use of section 35 eb bne— government's use of section 35 of the scotland _ government's use of section 35 of the scotland act . of the scotland act. the government— of the scotland act. the government have used it to stop this gender recognition bill from becoming law in scotland because say it impact because they say it will impact in england and wales. and of course this bill will allow children young as 15.5 to children as young as 15.5 to change their gender without even

consulting without consulting a doctor, without even their parents or even telling their parents or their parents. right. get their parents. right. let's get their parents. right. let's get me bebeeb— their parents. right. let's get the latest on— their parents. right. let's get the latest on this— ” ”wi; right. let's get the latest on this from historian— the latest on this from historian and- the latest on this from historian and columnist at the cewebew— historian and columnist at the courier,_goodi courier, andrew liddle. good mommie— courier, andrew liddle. good morning, for morning, andrew. thank you for joining— morning, andrew. thank you for joining-good— morning, andrew. thank you for joining-good morning.- joining us. good morning. pleasure be here. good pleasure to be here. good morning, andrew.- good morning, andrew. what do you nebe— morning, andrew. what do you mebe eb— morning, andrew. what do you mebe eb bbbe— morning, andrew. what do you make of this move ? well, it's make of this move? well, it's eeebby— make of this move? well, it's pretty extraordinary. t. pretty extraordinary. humza beweeb— pretty extraordinary. humza bewee.— pretty extraordinary. humza beweeb . yew — pretty extraordinary. humza yousaf , you know, has only been yousaf, you know, has only been first minister for a couple of weeks. he doesn't have his troubles to seek already, and yet he seems determined to seek them. nevertheless i think it's a big mistake , this decision for a big mistake, this decision for two reasons, really . firstly, two reasons, really. firstly, i think two reasons, really. firstly, i bnbnb bneb— two reasons, really. firstly, i think that as— two reasons, really. firstly, i think that as the— ”551,w firstly,i think that as the former first wbnbebew— think that as the former first minister, alex— think that as the former first minister, alex salmond said, it's minister, alex salmond said, bb-e eeebby— minister, alex salmond said, bb-e eeebby e— minister, alex salmond said, it's really a lose— minister, alex salmond said, it's really a lose lose for the bbeb— it's really a lose lose for the first minister— it's really a lose lose for the first minister and the scottish eewemmenb— first minister and the scottish government, regardless of the ewbeeme— government, regardless of the ewbeeme . b— government, regardless of the outcome . i think,- government, regardless of the outcome . government, regardless of the outcome. �*7 outcome. i think, you know, if they lose the case in the court , then humza is humiliated and his authority is immediately undermined. and his authority is immediately undermined . and but also, even undermined. and but also, even if undermined. and but also, even bb bney— undermined. and but also, even bb bney wbn— undermined. and but also, even bb bney wbn bne— undermined. and but also, even if they win the case— c. 2 “bi;w2 and but also, even if they win the case there, then in if they win the case there, then bn bne — if they win the case there, then in the position— if they win the case there, then in the position of— if they win the case there, then in the position of forcing bneewen— in the position of forcing through this— in the position of forcing through this very contentious

eneb— through this very contentious ene wnbebwbee— through this very contentious and unpopular legislation on the beebbe— and unpopular legislation on the beebbe eb— and unpopular legislation on the people of scotland . so it's an people of scotland. so it's an beewe— people of scotland. so it's an beem — people of scotland. so it's an issue from that— people of scotland. so it's an issue from that point of view, bwb— issue from that point of view, bwb eeenebe— issue from that point of view, but perhaps even— issue from that point of view, but perhaps even more fundamentally, it's a huge issue for fundamentally, it's a huge issue bee bne— fundamentally, it's a huge issue bee bne swe— fundamentally, it's a huge issue bee bne swb ,— fundamentally, it's a huge issue for the snp , which was deeply, for the snp, which was deeply, eeebby— for the snp, which was deeply, eeebby mweee— for the snp, which was deeply, deeply divided over this legislation— deeply divided over this legislation in- deeply divided over this legislation in towards the end of legislation in towards the end eb beeb— legislation in towards the end eb beeb yeee— legislation in towards the end eb beeb yeee. — legislation in towards the end of last year. the— legislation in towards the end of last year . of last year. the former first minister, nicola sturgeon was given a real headache by people in her own party, with concerns about some of the issues you've just mentioned there. she suffered the biggest, an unprecedented backbench rebellion. she suffered the resignation of a senior minister. again, unprecedented . minister. again, unprecedented. and so this is a hugely contentious issue within the snp and of course humza yousaf, the new first minister has really struggled to unite the party behind him in the last two weeks since he since he was elected leader. and this is only going to make it much worse. it underlines the suspicion, beeen-b— underlines the suspicion, beeen-b bw— underlines the suspicion, doesn't it, to— underlines the suspicion, doesn't it, to andrew, that he neb— doesn't it, to andrew, that he neb ne-e— doesn't it, to andrew, that he neb ne-e neb— doesn't it, to andrew, that he not he's not just— doesn't it, to andrew, that he not he's not just a continuity eenbbbebet— not he's not just a continuity candidate, but— not he's not just a continuity candidate, but he's nicola sbweeeen— candidate, but he's nicola sbweeeen be— candidate, but he's nicola sturgeon is still pulling all

bne— sturgeon is still pulling all me ebebnee— sturgeon is still pulling all the strings because didn't he say— the strings because didn't he eey-bne— the strings because didn't he say the leadership say during the leadership eenbeeb— say during the leadership contest he'll— say during the leadership contest he'll have her on speed bbeb— contest he'll have her on speed bbeb bn— contest he'll have her on speed bbeb bn bbbe— contest he'll have her on speed dial in this policy— contest he'll have her on speed dial in this policy was huge. really,— dial in this policy was huge. really,-closely- really, really closely associated - really, really closely associated with her. and the eeebeeb— associated with her. and the easiest thing— associated with her. and the easiest thing to— associated with her. and the easiest thing to do would have been— easiest thing to do would have been be— easiest thing to do would have been be ewbebby— easiest thing to do would have been to quietly buried it. bbeb-e— been to quietly buried it. that's absolutely right, andrew. i that's absolutely right, andrew. b bbbnb— that's absolutely right, andrew. b bbbnb me— that's absolutely right, andrew. i think me personally,— that's absolutely right, andrew. i think me personally, i- that's absolutely right, andrew. i think me personally, i thought that humza actually when he said dunng that humza actually when he said during the leadership election he was going to do this, i didn't think he would. i think, as you say, i assumed he would quietly drop it because it's so contentious. but that's clearly not the case. you do see not the case. and you do see nicola influence not the case. and you do see nicolayou influence not the case. and you do see nicolayou see ifluence not the case. and you do see nicolayou see thetnce there. you also see the influence strongly, though, influence very strongly, though, of the scottish green party, which of course a which of course has a cooperation agreement with the snp in the scottish parliament and they are also very , very pro and they are also very, very pro this legislation and humza is very, very keen to keep that cooperation agreement in place , cooperation agreement in place, possibly at the detriment to some some of the views in his own party. it seems , you know, own party. it seems, you know, this this whole mess has managed to alienate sort of like obviously, you know, 50% of the population. i us women as we're

ebbbb— population. i us women as we're ebbbb ebbeweb— population. i us women as we're still allowed to— population. i us women as we're still allowed to call— i us women as we're still allowed to call ourselves. bwb— still allowed to call ourselves. bwb bbe— still allowed to call ourselves. bwb bb-e ebee— still allowed to call ourselves. but it's also upsetting the bembb— but it's also upsetting the lgbtq+ community because there is lgbtq+ community because there be ee— lgbtq+ community because there be ee mweb— lgbtq+ community because there is so much confusion and what's going— is so much confusion and what's eeme en— is so much confusion and what's going en new— is so much confusion and what's going en bne— is so much confusion and what's going on now. the bottom line in bbbe— going on now. the bottom line in bbbe be— going on now. the bottom line in bbbe be bbe— going on now. the bottom line in bbbe be be neb— going on now. the bottom line in this is it's not necessarily the beeneeenbee— this is it's not necessarily the transgender problem itself. it is transgender problem itself. it be eebwebby— transgender problem itself. it is actually the _ transgender problem itself. it is actually the legal aspect of westminster— is actually the legal aspect of westminster dictating what eeebbenb— westminster dictating what scotland does,— westminster dictating what scotland does, isn't it? that is bne— scotland does, isn't it? that is me bebbem — scotland does, isn't it? that is the bottom line— scotland does, isn't it? that is the bottom line with this one. bbeb-e— the bottom line with this one. we ebenb. — the bottom line with this one. that's right. i— the bottom line with this one. that's right. t. that's right. i think humza yousaf, as i said, has had a lot of difficulties in his first couple of weeks as first minister. i know a lot of them have been covered excellently on your programmes and this is potentially a way of distracting from those issues and trying to regain the initiative . i don't regain the initiative. i don't think that will work. i think it's there are much better methods he could have used. but i think clearly there is politics at play here and setting up a clash with the uk government over over this issue. you know , is textbook snp you know, is textbook snp behaviour. really it's the wrong beewe— behaviour. really it's the wrong be— behaviour. really it's the wrong be 90— behaviour. really it's the wrong

issue to go down— behaviour. really it's the wrong issue to go down all— ” really it's the wrong issue to go down all guns bbezbne— issue to go down all guns bbezbne ,— issue to go down all guns blazing , isn't— issue to go down all guns blazing , isn't it? completely blazing, isn't it? completely bne— blazing, isn't it? completely we went— blazing, isn't it? completely the wrong issue— blazing, isn't it? completely the wrong issue ? it's hugely the wrong issue? it's hugely wnbebwbee— the wrong issue? it's hugely wnbebwbee bn— the wrong issue? it's hugely unpopular in scotland , it's unpopular in scotland, it's nwoeby— unpopular in scotland, it's hugely unpopular in the whole eewnbey— hugely unpopular in the whole eewnbey. bbbe— hugely unpopular in the whole country. this idea. that's right . ane— country. this idea. that's right . ann b— country. this idea. that's right . and i think— country. this idea. that's right . and i think that— country. this idea. that's right . and i think that will- country. this idea. that's right . and i think that will get only worse when we have a lengthy what will presumably be a lengthy legal battle over this where the taxpayers in scotland andindeed where the taxpayers in scotland and indeed the uk are going to have to foot the bill for this case. um, and yes , and it's case. um, and yes, and it's deeply unpopular and i think that will make it even more unpopular. andrew andrew little. anbeew— unpopular. andrew andrew little. anbeew nae,— unpopular. andrew andrew little. andrew little, historian- c. t“ ' “2 andrew little. andrew little, historian and eebwmnbeb— andrew little, historian and columnist on— andrew little, historian and columnist on the courier. thanks so columnist on the courier. thanks ee mweb— columnist on the courier. thanks ee mweb bee— columnist on the courier. thanks so much for joining— columnist on the courier. thanks so much forjoining us. now, we mew— so much forjoining us. now, we knew going— so much forjoining us. now, we know we're going to see the beeebbenb— know we're going to see the beeebeenb eb— know we're going to see the president of the— know we're going to see the president of the united states ewbbe— president of the united states quite-ireland.- president of the united states quite ireland. he's quite shortly in ireland. he's tebneb— quite shortly in ireland. he's tebneb ebwe— quite shortly in ireland. he's joined due to— quite shortly in ireland. he's joined due to join the irish beeebbenb— joined due to join the irish beeebbenb ,— joined due to join the irish president, but— joined due to join the irish president , but not to be president, but not to be eenbweeb— president, but not to be confused with- president, but not to be confused with the taoiseach beebeeeen. — confused with the taoiseach taoiseach. no,— confused with the taoiseach taoiseach. \w dig taoiseach. no, absolutely. i spent all morning practising that. i think that is the that. yeah i think that is the irish president's official residence that's in. michael wboobne— residence that's in. michael wbeebne be— residence that's in. michael higgins is-president- 2t t“ michael higgins is president of higgins is the president of beebenb— higgins is the president of ireland _that- higgins is the president of. ireland _that lovely ireland and that's that lovely beeb— ireland and that's that lovely beeb bn— ireland and that's that lovely park in dublin.— ireland and that's that lovely park in dublin. what's it eebebb— park in dublin. what's it called?-it's. park in dublin. what's it called?-it's ii park in dublin. what's it- called?-it's i forgot called? gorgeous. it's i forgot wneb— called? gorgeous. it's i forgot wneb-beeb— called? gorgeous. it's i forgot what-parklcalled.- called? gorgeous. it's i forgot what park called. so what the park is called. so bebb— what the park is called. so he'll-there. _ what the park is called. so he'll there. there'll be

he'll be there. there'll be bb-bb— he'll be there. there'll be bb-bb be— he'll be there. there'll be it'll be choreographed. think it'll be choreographed. i think nee— it'll be choreographed. i think me going— it'll be choreographed. i think me going be— it'll be choreographed. i think he's going to have lunch with bbm— he's going to have lunch with nbm enb— he's going to have lunch with him and then— he's going to have lunch with him and then he's going to go on to him and then he's going to go on be-beben— him and then he's going to go on to-irish parliament.- him and then he's going to go on to irish parliament. i think to the irish parliament. i think bebb— to the irish parliament. i think new be— to the irish parliament. i think new be enby— to the irish parliament. i think he'll be only the— to the irish parliament. i think he'll be only the fifth beeebeenb— he'll be only the fifth president of- he'll be only the fifth president of the united states to president of the united states. be—beebbemenb. to address the irish parliament. do to address the irish parliament. be-bnbnb— to address the irish parliament. do-think he'll— to address the irish parliament. do think he'll know which do you think he'll know which beebbemenb— do you think he'll know which parliament he's— do you think he'll know which parliament he's addressing? oh, anew,— parliament he's addressing? oh, kneel—be- parliament he's addressing? oh, andrew,_be me.- andrew, you have to be me. wewenby.— andrew, you have to be me. wewenby. we— andrew, you have to be me. naughty. he mean, that naughty. he does. i mean, that eebbe— naughty. he does. i mean, that eebbe yeebeeeey— naughty. he does. i mean, that gaffe yesterday in— naughty. he does. i mean, that gaffe yesterday in the pub in weebneen— gaffe yesterday in the pub in northern ireland when he eebeeeeb— northern ireland when he referred cousin, fifth referred to his cousin, fifth wne — referred to his cousin, fifth cousin, who taken part in very cousin, who taken part in a very bee— cousin, who taken part in a very beenewe eweby— cousin, who taken part in a very famous rugby where he'd famous rugby match where he'd beeben— famous rugby match where he'd beeben bne— famous rugby match where he'd beaten the beaten— famous rugby match where he'd beaten the beaten black and beaten the beaten the black and bene— beaten the beaten the black and bene .— beaten the beaten the black and bene . bb— beaten the beaten the black and bene . bb wee— beaten the beaten the black and tans. it was the— beaten the beaten the black and tans . it was the all blacks. the tans. it was the all blacks. the week— tans. it was the all blacks. the bbeeb-weee— tans. it was the all blacks. the black-were .veryl black and tans were the very controversial— black and tans were the very controversial english lot, were bneeebeeebeb— controversial english lot, were incorporated into _ controversial english lot, were incorporated into ireland in the wee— incorporated into ireland in the wee eb— incorporated into ireland in the war of independence . and they war of independence. and they were accused of— war of independence. and they were accused of all sorts of ebeeebbbee— were accused of all sorts of atrocities against. well, there were so there— atrocities against. well, there were so there were so awful that a were so there were so awful that e beb— were so there were so awful that e beb eb— were so there were so awful that e beb eb bne— were so there were so awful that a lot of the people— were so there were so awful that a lot of the people in ireland were convinced— a lot of the people in ireland were convinced that basically all were convinced that basically ebb bne— were convinced that basically all the brits— were convinced that basically all the brits had— were convinced that basically all the brits had done was just embbbeb— all the brits had done was just embbbeb bne— all the brits had done was just emptied the prisons, put them in the emptied the prisons, put them in me bbeeb— emptied the prisons, put them in me bbeeb enb— emptied the prisons, put them in the black and tan— emptied the prisons, put them in the black and tan uniform and got the black and tan uniform and eeb bnem— the black and tan uniform and eeb bnem ewb— the black and tan uniform and got them out there to quell the eebebbben. — got them out there to quell the rebellion. and— got them out there to quell the rebellion. and so— got them out there to quell the rebellion. and so he'd already new— rebellion. and so he'd already new be— rebellion. and so he'd already new be eemy— rebellion. and so he'd already had to deny reports, not least beem— had to deny reports, not least beem ewe— had to deny reports, not least beem weey— had to deny reports, not least from our very own arlene foster bneb— from our very own arlene foster bbeb ne— from our very own arlene foster bbeb be bebee— from our very own arlene foster

that he hates the— from our very own arlene foster that he hates the uk . and this that he hates the uk. and this wewbb— that he hates the uk. and this wewbeb bewe— that he hates the uk. and this would have really— that he hates the uk. and this would have really alienated the wbebee— would have really alienated the wbebee ,— would have really alienated the wbebee , bbe— would have really alienated the ulster , the unionist community ulster, the unionist community by bringing— ulster, the unionist community by bringing up— ulster, the unionist community by bringing up the black and bene— by bringing up the black and bene beem — by bringing up the black and bene beem e— by bringing up the black and tans from a hundred years ago. it tans from a hundred years ago. we we— tans from a hundred years ago. we bb— tans from a hundred years ago. we be we— tans from a hundred years ago. it was it was either, _ tans from a hundred years ago. it was it was either, as- tans from a hundred years ago. it was it was either, as you - it was it was either, as you say, just a sort of like a bit of a mental blank there. are we seeing anything happening? not quite, no. or it was a freudian slip and one hope it wasn't a freudian slip. and we've got bee— freudian slip. and we've got darren mccaffrey— freudian slip. and we've goti darren mccaffrey-in darren mccaffrey out there in beebeneb— darren mccaffrey out there in ireland,.course,_ darren mccaffrey out there in ireland, course, and we ireland, of course, and we put bbm— ireland, of course, and we put bbmleebbe— ireland, of course, and we put him-gaffe watch. - ireland, of course, and we put him gaffe watch. as he's him on gaffe watch. and as he's wbbb— him on gaffe watch. and as he's wbbb bbm— him on gaffe watch. and as he's with him until— him on gaffe watch. and as he's with him until saturday lunchtime,— with him until saturday lunchtime, i— with him until saturday lunchtime, i suspect he's going to lunchtime, i suspect he's going be-weey— lunchtime, i suspect he's going be-weey bwey. - lunchtime, i suspect he's going to-very busy. the. lunchtime, i suspect he's going. to-very busy. the whole to be very, very busy. the whole bbme— to be very, very busy. the whole thing like the fact that he thing is like the fact that he spent like a cup of coffee time talking prime minister, talking to the prime minister, talking to the prime minister, talking rishi sunak in in talking to rishi sunak in in northern and spending northern ireland and is spending like in southern like four days in southern ireland. device he got ireland. the device when he got on got on the plane to on when he got on the plane to come over here, he said he wanted to unify and sort out the problem get stormont back problem and get stormont back together. together together. working together and the opposite happened. the exact opposite has happened. it's very, very it's proving a very, very divisive i think. well divisive visit. i think. well i'll we'll bring you the latest when he actually obe when he turns up, when he comes in.

john

but we're going straight back to beebenb— but we're going straight back to ireland because— but we're going straight back to ireland because the president of the ireland because the president of bbe wnbee— ireland because the president of the united states,— ireland because the president of the united states, joe biden, bee— the united states, joe biden, bee eewee— the united states, joe biden, has arrived in— the united states, joe biden, has arrived in phoenix park at the has arrived in phoenix park at bbe ebbbebeb— has arrived in phoenix park at the official residence of the bbeb— the official residence of the irish president,— the official residence of the irish president, who is michael boome— irish president, who is michael higgins- bbeee— irish president, who is michael higgins. there the official higgins. there is the official eeeebenbe— higgins. there is the official residence. . looks- higgins. there is the official residence. looks rather nice, residence. it looks rather nice, beeen-b— residence. it looks rather nice, doesn't—sunshine. residence. it looks rather nice,| doesn't—sunshine in doesn't it? lovely sunshine in dublin. absolutely. dublin. yeah, absolutely. at a blink, might that's blink, you might think that's the blink, you might think that's bbe-bewee— blink, you might think that's the - house and - blink, you might think that's the house and so the the white house and so the beeebbenb— the white house and so the beeebeenb be— the white house and so the president is there somewhere. bbeee-e— president is there somewhere. there's-armed— president is there somewhere. there's armed guard, as you'd there's an armed guard, as you'd eebee.— there's an armed guard, as you'd eebeeb. we— there's an armed guard, as you'd expect we wbeb— there's an armed guard, as you'd expect. no what i— there's an armed guard, as you'd expect. no what i would call eebbeey— expect. no what i would call eeebneey bebb. — expect. no what i would call ordinary folk. get near these eenbe — ordinary folk. get near these eenbe n..— ordinary folk. get near these eenbe be. b— ordinary folk. get near these events. no, i was- ordinary folk. get near these events. \wbiii wgitw “wg ordinary folk. get near these events. wwitw wgitw “wg ordinary folk. get near these events. \wbiii wgitw “wg events. no, i was going to say, it looks very, very formal. you've got guards standing there, very military welcome, isn't it? and the sun is ebbnbne— isn't it? and the sun is shining. that's- c 7 and the sun is shining. that's quite a plus in beebenb— shining. that's quite a plus in ireland because,— shining. that's quite a plus in ireland because, of course, it enebe— ireland because, of course, it eeme-bebne- ireland because, of course, it rains-ireland. i- ireland because, of course, it rains ireland. i would rains a lot in ireland. i would bmew— rains a lot in ireland. i would bmew bbeb— rains a lot in ireland. i would know that because i've got a lot of know that because i've got a lot eb bebeb. — know that because i've got a lot eb bebeb. bwb— know that because i've got a lot of irish. but at— know that because i've got a lot of irish. but at least.- know that because i've got a lot of irish. 1 of irish. but at least. at least. have you been to that park where this is? i have been to park where this is? i have been be bbeenbx— park where this is? i have been to phoenix park,— park where this is? i have been to phoenix park, which- park where this is? i have been to phoenix park, which is- 57 i have been to phoenix park, which is why i ebewbb— to phoenix park, which is why i ebewb-b— to phoenix park, which is why i should-i should— to phoenix park, which is why i should i should have known should not i should have known bmmebbebeby— should not i should have known immediately where it was, bee— immediately where it was, beeeweeee- b- immediately where it was, because as i get is because as far as i get is bembbe— because as far as i get is bembbe t..— because as far as i get is temple bar, where there's some eeebby— temple bar, where there's some eeebby-ewbe. — temple bar, where there's some really-pubs. love- temple bar, where there's some

really pubs. i t“ really lovely pubs. love dublin. obey.— really lovely pubs. love dublin. okay, what are expecting? okay, so what are we expecting? we've with us we've got tom harwood with us here. news political here. gb news deputy political edhon he editor. tom, what. what is he expected when he's there? expected to do when he's there? what he expected to say? how what is he expected to say? how long is he going to be there? yeah, it's a significant moment. bbbe— yeah, it's a significant moment. bbbe-bwe— yeah, it's a significant moment. this two presidents these this the two presidents of these two this the two presidents of these bwe—eb- this the two presidents of these two _of course, i two countries, one, of course, eebbee— two countries, one, of course, nbbee-bben— two countries, one, of course, rather-than the - two countries, one, of course, rather than the other, rather larger than the other, bebb— rather larger than the other, bebblbeeme— rather larger than the other, both .terms of _ rather larger than the other, both terms of and rather larger than the other,- bothlterms of-and in both in terms of stature and in beene— both in terms of stature and in beeme eb— both in terms of stature and in beeme eb ebe— both in terms of stature and in terms of size of— both in terms of stature and in terms of size of countries. nbebeeb—el terms of size of countries. michael—a very michael d higgins is a very bbmbnwbbwe— michael d higgins is a very diminutive _whol michael d higgins is a very. diminutive _who has diminutive little man who has eeeenbby—eel recently been re—elected as beeebbenb— recently been re—elected as president—but. president of ireland. but this is president of ireland. but this be e— president of ireland. but this be e big— president of ireland. but this is a big-occasion- president of ireland. but this is a big occasion for is a big state occasion for beebenb. — is a big state occasion for ireland. they— is a big state occasion for ireland. they absolutely love bbbe— ireland. they absolutely love bbbe ebwbb— ireland. they absolutely love this stuff. when— ireland. they absolutely love this stuff. when american this stuff. when an american beeebbenb— this stuff. when an american president can president comes over and you can see president comes over and you can eee—bbe- president comes over and you can eee—bbe emewnbl see the regalia and the amount of see the regalia and the amount eb ebben— see the regalia and the amount eb ebbeeb bbeb— see the regalia and the amount of effort that has— see the regalia and the amount of effort that has really of effort that has been really been— of effort that has been really been-bbbe— of effort that has been really been this occasion and been put into this occasion and it been put into this occasion and bb be— been put into this occasion and bb be going— been put into this occasion and bb be going be— been put into this occasion and bb be going be be— been put into this occasion and it is going to be a— been put into this occasion and it is going to be a big moment. web— it is going to be a big moment. web ebeey— it is going to be a big moment. web eweey us— it is going to be a big moment. not every us president has webbed— not every us president has wbebbeb bbe— not every us president has visited the republic ireland, visited the republic of ireland, but visited the republic of ireland, bwbleeweee— visited the republic of ireland, but-course joe— visited the republic of ireland, but course joe biden, as he's but of course joe biden, as he's been— but of course joe biden, as he's been eeybne— but of course joe biden, as he's been eeybno bn— but of course joe biden, as he's been saying in the— but of course joe biden, as he's been saying in the last 24 hours or so, has been— been saying in the last 24 hours or so, has been really quite been— or so, has been really quite been be— or so, has been really quite keen to emphasise his irish beebbeee— keen to emphasise his irish heritage and— keen to emphasise his irish heritage and emphasise how much beebenb— heritage and emphasise how much beebenb ee— heritage and emphasise how much beebenb ee e— heritage and emphasise how much ireland as a place— heritage and emphasise how much ireland as a place means to him. of ireland as a place means to him. 0b eewee— ireland as a place means to him. 0b eb— ireland as a place means to him. of course, of course.— ireland as a place means to him. of course, of course. along the course of this— of course, of course. along the course of this trip— of course, of course. along the course of this trip he will be wbebbbne— course of this trip he will be wbebbbne bbe— course of this trip he will be visiting his ancestral home bbeeee— visiting his ancestral home places within— visiting his ancestral home places within ireland, bringing his places within ireland, bringing bbe bembby— places within ireland, bringing his family along— places within ireland, bringing

his family along as well, which ben-b— his family along as well, which ben-b ebweye— his family along as well, which isn't always usual— his family along as well, which isn't always usual for an ameebeen— isn't always usual for an american president. it just it ebeee— american president. it just it be ewooeew— american president. it just it does suggest, tom, he's using bbbe— does suggest, tom, he's using bbbe ee— does suggest, tom, he's using bbbe ee e— does suggest, tom, he's using bbbe ee e weey— does suggest, tom, he's using this as a very nice— does suggest, tom, he's using this as a very nice holiday or a weeebbew— this as a very nice holiday or a weeebbew be — this as a very nice holiday or a vacation, to use— this as a very nice holiday or a vacation, to use american beebenee. — vacation, to use american parlance. he's- vacation, to use american parlance. wi; g t“ vacation, to use american- parlance. he's brought his son, his sister and his sister. parlance. he's brought his son, his sister and his sister . and his sister and his sister. and he's going romp through, as you say, all his heritage, his ancestral homes. he's going to be in county mayo. he's going to be in county mayo. he's going to be meeting fifth and sixth cousins. heard all the cousins. and we heard all the excitement from some of those yesterday. absolutely. and you mbebb—wben- yesterday. absolutely. and you- mbebb—wben-bewmb might remember when donald trump came across to the _ might remember when donald trump came across to the united bbnebem— came across to the united bbnoeem be— came across to the united kingdom, he spent few days up kingdom, he spent a few days up on kingdom, he spent a few days up en bbe— kingdom, he spent a few days up en bbe eebb— kingdom, he spent a few days up on his golf course— kingdom, he spent a few days up on his golf course in scotland. he on his golf course in scotland. be eeb— on his golf course in scotland. be eeblbeb— on his golf course in scotland. be eeblbeb eb— on his golf course in scotland. he got lot of criticism for he got a lot of criticism for bbeb— he got a lot of criticism for bbeb ee— he got a lot of criticism for that as taking— he got a lot of criticism for that as taking the holiday. it's bnbeeeebbne. — that as taking the holiday. it's interesting. we're— that as taking the holiday. it's interesting. we're not hearing ewbe— interesting. we're not hearing ewbe-eeme— interesting. we're not hearing quite-same level- interesting. we're not hearing quite same level of quite the same level of eebbbebem — quite the same level of criticism .joe - quite the same level of criticism joe biden criticism for joe biden for bebne—el criticism for joe biden for- bebne—e jennie doing a similar thing, a jaunt, a doing a similar thing, a jaunt, e-tewnb— doing a similar thing, a jaunt, a-jaunt around- doing a similar thing, a jaunt, a jaunt around the a family jaunt around the bebwbbbe— a family jaunt around the republic ireland. today , republic of ireland. but today, ebebb— republic of ireland. but today, ebebb new— republic of ireland. but today, ebobb new-be— republic of ireland. but today, right now,-is the- republic of ireland. but today, right now, is the state right now, this is the statei occasion. _formal occasion. this is the formal bite— occasion. this is the formal bbwleeweee— occasion. this is the formal bbwleeweee .— occasion. this is the formal bit,.course . so- occasion. this is the formal bit, course . so not only is bit, of course. so not only is he bit, of course. so not only is be meebbne— bit, of course. so not only is he meeting with— bit, of course. so not only is he meeting with the president, but he meeting with the president, bwb ebee— he meeting with the president, but also that— he meeting with the president, but also that address of the of the but also that address of the of bbe bbeb— but also that address of the of the irish parliament as well as pan— the irish parliament as well as beeb eb— the irish parliament as well as beeb eb bbbe— the irish parliament as well as part of this visit. _ the irish parliament as well as part of this visit. so the two ebemenbe— part of this visit. so the two ebemenbe eb— part of this visit. so the two elements of the— part of this visit. so the two elements of the irish state bbeee.— elements of the irish state bbeee. webb—

elements of the irish state there. well, how cross will they be wbbb— there. well, how cross will they be wbbb bn— there. well, how cross will they be with in the _ there. well, how cross will they be with in the white house? ' be with in the white house? a lot be with in the white house? a beb eb— be with in the white house? a beb eb bbe— be with in the white house? a lot of the irish— be with in the white house? a lot of the irish papers,- be with in the white house? a lot of the irish papers, they've gone on the front page. the terrible gaffe about the black and tans. well, it really was a terrible gaffe. it was a beeebbbe— terrible gaffe. it was a terrible gaffe.- g it was a terrible gaffe. and, of course, bbeee-e— terrible gaffe. and, of course, bbeee-e e— terrible gaffe. and, of course, bbeee-e e beb— terrible gaffe. and, of course, there's a lot of— terrible gaffe. and, of course, there's a lot of history there wbbb— there's a lot of history there wbbb bbe— there's a lot of history there with the black— there's a lot of history there with the black and tans. there's a with the black and tans. there's e beb— with the black and tans. there's e beb eb— with the black and tans. there's e beb eb nbbee— with the black and tans. there's a lot of quite, quite sort of eewebwbben— a lot of quite, quite sort of revolution around the revolution songs around the bbeeb— revolution songs around the bbeeb eneb— revolution songs around the black and tans. _ revolution songs around the black and tans. it's such a ebenbbbeenb— black and tans. it's such a significant sort— black and tans. it's such a significant sort of cultural memem— significant sort of cultural. significant sort of cultural- moment,_we really moment, something that we really wewbb— moment, something that we really wewbeb bbbe— moment, something that we really wewbeb bbbe-eb— moment, something that we really would like-of put- moment, something that we really would like of put behind would like to sort of put behind us would like to sort of put behind ween bbeee— would like to sort of put behind us on these islands . and us on these islands. and beebbewbeeby— us on these islands. and particularly be given what the beeebbenb— particularly be given what the president was— particularly be given what the president was saying about the bbwbbenbe— president was saying about the bbwbbenbe eb— president was saying about the dividends of peace in northern beebeneb— dividends of peace in northern beebeneb eeeb— dividends of peace in northern ireland, sort of— dividends of peace in northern ireland, sort of putting behind the ireland, sort of putting behind bbe eenbbbeb— ireland, sort of putting behind the conflict of— ireland, sort of putting behind the conflict of the last eenbwey— the conflict of the last century, bring that up even subliminally_ century, bring that up even subliminally ,— century, bring that up even subliminally , even accidentally subliminally, even accidentally , is subliminally, even accidentally , be e— subliminally, even accidentally , be e eeebby,— subliminally, even accidentally , is a really, really damaging ibing— , is a really, really damaging thing because— , is a really, really damaging thing because some will say he did thing because some will say he bbeb bb— thing because some will say he did it deliberately. wi; 2 2 t“ c did it deliberately. he didn't. he did it deliberately. he didn't. be bweb— did it deliberately. he didn't. he just made a gaffe. it was best it was a freudian- 2 g it was best it was a freudian sin, but it best it was a freudian sin, but bb wee— best it was a freudian sin, but bb e— best it was a freudian sin, but it was a terrible— best it was a freudian sin, but it was a terrible what is it ebewb— it was a terrible what is it ebewb us— it was a terrible what is it about us presidents and gaffes of about us presidents and gaffes eb bbe— about us presidents and gaffes eb bbe beeb— about us presidents and gaffes of the last four— about us presidents and gaffes of the last four us president xb. — of the last four us president b. be— of the last four us president xi. it's three— of the last four us president xi. it's three of— of the last four us president xi. it's three of them- of the last four us president xi. c of the last four us president- xi. it's three of them have been very well known for inventing

words, misapplying words , or words, misapplying words, or just saying the wrong thing . just saying the wrong thing. it's not like that ever it's not like that ever happens it's not like that ever happens wbbb— it's not like that ever happens wbbb eny— it's not like that ever happens wbbb eny eb— it's not like that ever happens with any of our— it's not like that ever happens with any of our prime ministers. webb — with any of our prime ministers. webb webb— with any of our prime ministers. web. web — with any of our prime ministers. well. well but— with any of our prime ministers. well. well but this— with any of our prime ministers. well. well w2bi;1 well. well but this president is to pass master , isn't he? well, to pass master, isn't he? well, he is 80, isn't he? yeah. - c “bi;7 well, he is 80, isn't he? yeah. i beeb.— he is 80, isn't he? yeah. i mean, look, he's- he is 80, isn't he? yeah. i mean, look, he's going to run again. he's going to be around for another 4 or 5 years. sorry. he can't surely. right. because we bewe— he can't surely. right. because we bewe be— he can't surely. right. because we have to move— he can't surely. right. because we have to move on— wi; t t“ c ”wily right. because we have to move on before he eebe— we have to move on before he eebe eeeneb— we have to move on before he gets carried away.— we have to move on before he gets carried away. he always beee.— gets carried away. he always beee. en— gets carried away. he always does. on this— gets carried away. he always does. on this one. we're eenbbnwbne— does. on this one. we're continuing coverage of joe continuing our coverage of joe ebben—bbeb-e- continuing our coverage of joe biden—that's afteri biden in ireland. that's after yewe— biden in ireland. that's after- yewe—bebbeny your morning news with bethany bbeey— your morning news with bethany bbeey .— your morning news with bethany bbeey . bbenb— your morning news with bethany elsey . thank you. wi;”wi; ” elsey. thank you. here's your bebeee— elsey. thank you. here's your latest headlines from the gb newsroom at 1132, us president joe biden is about to meet ireland's president, michael d higgins , at his official higgins, at his official residence in dublin. an armed guard has been set up around the building to welcome the us president. the pair will take part in a tree planting ceremony in phoenix park and also a ringing of the peace bell . of ringing of the peace bell. of course, when that meeting

happens, we'll bring it to you here on gb news. president biden will also address the irish parliament later and meet with taoiseach varadkar . it's the taoiseach leo varadkar. it's the second of a three day visit to the republic of ireland yesterday. thousands gathered to greet him on a tour of his ancestral homeland. joe biden said it felt like coming home. the chancellor says the outlook for the uk economy is brighter than expected, despite new figures showing there was no growth in february. data from the office for national statistics shows a 0.4% decrease in gross domestic product from january. the service sector fell, with the ons blaming strike action by teachers and civil servants. a fall in gas and electric usage due to milder weather was also responsible. but the figures do show gdp grew 0.1% in the three months to february . 0.1% in the three months to february. donald trump is suing his former lawyer , michael his former lawyer, michael cohen, for £400 million. the former us president is seeking damages after cohen testified

before the manhattan grand jury that indicted him . trump has that indicted him. trump has accused cohen of failing to honour attorney client confidentiality and of profiting by spreading falsehoods about him. cohen his lawyer, called the lawsuit frivolous . the body the lawsuit frivolous. the body of a woman has been found washed up on a beach after a search operation off brighton palace pier . operation off brighton palace pier. coastguard helicopters and rnli lifeboats were involved in the rescue effort, which was launched yesterday afternoon. the heavy winds of storm noah had made search efforts challenging sussex. police say an investigation is underway . an investigation is underway. you're up to date on tv online dab+ radio and on tune in this is . gb news dab+ radio and on tune in this is. gb news animal rising. are set to protest at the grand- set to protest at the grand webbeneb— set to protest at the grand national this— set to protest at the grand national this weekend. we'll bebb— national this weekend. we'll bebbyew— national this weekend. we'll bebb yew wny— national this weekend. we'll bebb yew wby bn— national this weekend. we'll tell you why in just a minute

good morning . welcome back. it's good morning. welcome back. it's 1137 good morning. welcome back. it's bbb eneb— good morning. welcome back. it's bbb ene yewee— good morning. welcome back. it's 1137 and you're with— good morning. welcome back. it's 1137 and you're with to the bemb— 1137 and you're with to the bebnb en— 1137 and you're with to the bebnb en eb— 1137 and you're with to the point on gb news. �*vibwi; 5”wi; wgitw t“wg point on gb news. we are going to point on gb news. we are going be go— point on gb news. we are going to go back to ireland as and when the president when it happens where he is. but we're going to look at the papers now with political commentator. where to me? here i where are you next to me? here i am . i'm going to give you a name am. i'm going to give you a name and i'm a governor, an academic. joanna i was joanna williams sorry, i was going you somebody. going to call you somebody. that'd nice. thank you. am i that'd be nice. thank you. am i in that'd be nice. thank you. am i bn bn— that'd be nice. thank you. am i in in ireland?— that'd be nice. thank you. am i in in ireland? obviously- 2 t“ wtwi; thank you. am i in in ireland? obviously we're beewebne—by- focusing on that part by the we.— focusing on that part by the wey.|bbbe— focusing on that part by the way.ithis.this- focusing on that part by the way.ithis.this isn't- focusing on that part by the way. t“ c way. this is this isn't it's dawn neesom. you can call me whatever you want, big boy. i don't mind at all. where are we going— don't mind at all. where are we going wbbb— don't mind at all. where are we going wbbb bbe— don't mind at all. where are we going with the first story? rigbi— going with the first story? bbebb—eebnel going with the first story?| bebb—eeme be going with the first story?- rigin—going to g0 going with the first story?- right_going to go to right okay. we're going to go to if right okay. we're going to go to bb enybbbne— right okay. we're going to go to if anything happens , obviously if anything happens, obviously we're straight— if anything happens, obviously we're straight straight back to bwbbbn. — we're straight straight back to bwbbbn. bwb— we're straight straight back to dublin. but at— we're straight straight back to dublin. but at the moment we're going— dublin. but at the moment we're going be— dublin. but at the moment we're going be-wbbb— dublin. but at the moment we're going to with anna, going to stick with you. anna, beew— going to stick with you. anna, beew-bbeb— going to stick with you. anna, first,-first story. - going to stick with you. anna, first, first story. this first, your first story. this is anbmeb— first, your first story. this is animal expecting well animal rising. expecting well boo— animal rising. expecting well over 300 people— animal rising. expecting well over 300 people to protest at bbe— over 300 people to protest at bbe eeenb— over 300 people to protest at the grand national this eebbeey.— the grand national this saturday. one of the biggest beeee— saturday. one of the biggest horse race meetings in the eewnbey— horse race meetings in the country, 50,000- horse race meetings in the country, 50,000 people i know. bbeb-e— country, 50,000 people i know. bbeb-e going— country, 50,000 people i know. bbeb-e going be—

country, 50,000 people i know. that's going to be— country, 50,000 people i know. that's going to be huge- country, 50,000 people i know. that's going to be huge turnout for that. my that's going to be huge turnout for that . my £2 bet each way on for that. my £2 bet each way on wbebewee— for that. my £2 bet each way on whatever horse _ for that. my £2 bet each way on whatever horse i— for that. my £2 bet each way on whatever horse i pick.- my £2 bet each way on whatever horse i pick. so i een-b— whatever horse i pick. so i een-b wenb— whatever horse i pick. so i don't want the _ whatever horse i pick. so i don't want the race to be bbeewbbeb — don't want the race to be ebeewbbee by— don't want the race to be disrupted by these these disrupted by these people, these benebbee. — disrupted by these people, these fanatics. .yeah,_ disrupted by these people, these fanatics. .yeah, in- disrupted by these people, these fanatics. ywi;5 t“ t“ fanatics. so, yeah, in front of 50,000 world refreshed scouts . 50,000 world refreshed scouts. yes. good luck. you know, i've only rising only heard about animal rising recently. heard of them recently. i hadn't heard of them in recently. i hadn't heard of them bn bbe— recently. i hadn't heard of them bn bbe beeb— recently. i hadn't heard of them in the last few— recently. i hadn't heard of them in the last few days. - ”wi;wt.wi;t1 i hadn't heard of them in the last few days. “z! in the last few days. i think anbmeb— in the last few days. i think animal rebellion . oh, okay. in the last few days. i think- animal rebellion . oh, okay. so animal rebellion. oh, okay. so this is a rebrand. _ animal rebellion. oh, okay. so this is a rebrand. i— animal rebellion. oh, okay. so this is a rebrand. i see.- animal rebellion. oh, okay. so this is a rebrand. i see. but eeem.— this is a rebrand. i see. but again, i'd be confused with extinction. oh, also intensely beebbebeb— extinction. oh, also intensely irritated the _ extinction. oh, also intensely irritated the names. - wi;,xc “wt wiwt“ oh, also intensely irritated the names. “wi;,w wi;,xc “wt. witwt“ oh, also intensely irritated the names. “wi;,w irritated the names. they just never run out. all these groups now for everything . but i just now for everything. but i just think it's just, again, like a massive woke virtue signal from them because at the end of the day, what they're trying to do is make a point. they're trying to disrupt, you know, a big event that thousands of people are going to attend for something not going something that's not going to achieve but massive achieve anything but massive chaos. get sometimes people chaos. i get sometimes people say national it's called chaos. i get sometimes people say brookynal it's called chaos. i get sometimes people say brook isil it's called chaos. i get sometimes people say brook is very called chaos. i get sometimes people say brook is very high, d chaos. i get sometimes people say brook is very high, but bucha brook is very high, but these any horse these people say any horse riding is cruel. absolutely . and riding is cruel. absolutely. and bbeb-e— riding is cruel. absolutely. and bbeb-e wbeb— riding is cruel. absolutely. and that's what they— riding is cruel. absolutely. and that's what they say— ” 2 t“wg wt absolutely. and that's what they say they do. and— that's what they say they do. and bn— that's what they say they do. and be bbe— that's what they say they do. and in the process— that's what they say they do. and in the process ,- that's what they say they do. and in the process, they're going to disrupt a day out that

thousands of people are going to enjoy. you it's enjoy. and, you know, it's a national institution, isn't it? the grand national. we all like to flutter and enjoy it. to have a flutter and enjoy it. but is, these horses but the fact is, if these horses were in any way were being in any way mistreated, would be obvious mistreated, it would be obvious to the viewing public we would be able to see the horses . these be able to see the horses. these are absolute valuable commodities as well as being living beings and they are looked after to within an inch of their lives. you know, they are so valuable . so the idea are so valuable. so the idea that they would be mistreated and i mean just beggars belief. they are actually the best loved eneb— they are actually the best loved ene eeeeb— they are actually the best loved ene eeeeeb bee— they are actually the best loved and cared for animals. i mean, i bbbnb— and cared for animals. i mean, i bbbnb my— and cared for animals. i mean, i bbbnb my eebe— and cared for animals. i mean, i think my cats apart— and cared for animals. i mean, i think my cats apart from your eebe— think my cats apart from your eebe bm— think my cats apart from your eebe b-m neb— think my cats apart from your cats, i'm not going down that eeeb.— cats, i'm not going down that eeeb. se— cats, i'm not going down that road. so tempting, but i'm not going— road. so tempting, but i'm not going bbeee.— road. so tempting, but i'm not going bbeee. b— road. so tempting, but i'm not going there. i think we it weenb— going there. i think we it wasn't nigel— going there. i think we it wasn't nigel farage a very own wbeeb— wasn't nigel farage a very own nigel beeeee— wasn't nigel farage a very own nigel beeeee be— wasn't nigel farage a very own nigel farage he was doing eemebeby— nigel farage he was doing somebody with some animal ebebbe— somebody with some animal rights. should— somebody with some animal rights. should have quick rights. should we have a quick beeb—eeebby- look? i'm actually really pleased that say these pleased that you say these horses because they horses are amazing because they really . but fact of the really are. but the fact of the matter that horse dies every matter is that horse dies every other day in racing in this country. you know, country. me and, you know, i think that's an acceptable . think that's an acceptable.

nathan if it wasn't for horse racing, these horses wouldn't exist. they wouldn't actually be bbeee— exist. they wouldn't actually be bbeee . — exist. they wouldn't actually be bbeee . bbey— exist. they wouldn't actually be there . they are— exist. they wouldn't actually be there . they are bred- exist. they wouldn't actually be there . they are bred to- wi;,x they wouldn't actually be there. they are bred to race. and they come, as you know, from bloodlines and they love it . bloodlines and they love it. they absolutely love it . they they absolutely love it. they are fed the best. they've got the best vets, the best training they have amazing lives. they love what they do. and yes, you're right. but not so much in flat you're right. but not so much in bbeb eeebe— you're right. but not so much in bbeb eeebne .— you're right. but not so much in flat racing , but— you're right. but not so much in flat racing , but in— ”wi; ” wgt1 but not so much in flat racing , but in jump racing. flat racing, but in jump racing. wbeb— flat racing, but in jump racing. wbeb eee— flat racing, but in jump racing. wbeb be— flat racing, but in jump racing. what are to do?— flat racing, but in jump racing. what are to do? get— flat racing, but in jump racing. what are to do? get put- flat racing, but in jump racing. what are to do? get put down and it's unpleasant and it's horrible and it's sad . but horrible and it's sad. but without racing, they wouldn't even be alive . to you . he's not. even be alive. to you. he's not. be— even be alive. to you. he's not. he was a mcguffin . you're he was a mcguffin. you're a macguffin. i am a macguffin . macguffin. i am a macguffin. maybe some, like, long distant bn— maybe some, like, long distant bn weey— maybe some, like, long distant cousin in very far— maybe some, like, long distant cousin in very far distant. i bebe. — cousin in very far distant. i bebe. b— cousin in very far distant. i nebe. w wen-b— cousin in very far distant. i hope. i don't know- cousin in very far distant. i hope. 2 t“ c ”wi; cousin in very far distant. i hope. 2 t“ c hope. i don't know where this they pepper these debates with figures every other day. a horse dies. where's the evidence? i have to say, i'm not 2 2 t7 i have to say, i'm not convinced by bbeb. — have to say, i'm not convinced by bbeb. b— have to say, i'm not convinced by that. i mean,— have to say, i'm not convinced by that. i mean, i— have to say, i'm not convinced by that. i mean, i for me to eweebben— by that. i mean, i for me to eweebben bbe— by that. i mean, i for me to question his statistics six but i question his statistics six but b bewen-b—

question his statistics six but i haven't seen— question his statistics six but i haven't seen any proof of that eneb— i haven't seen any proof of that end b— i haven't seen any proof of that end b bee— i haven't seen any proof of that and i 180 horses— i haven't seen any proof of that and i 180 horses dying in horse eeebe— and i 180 horses dying in horse eeeme ebeey— and i 180 horses dying in horse racing every year. _ and i 180 horses dying in horse racing every year. t“ c racing every year. wouldn't we know about that? i think we would. i think this would be a mweb— would. i think this would be a mweb bigger— would. i think this would be a much bigger news— 2 i think this would be a much bigger news story if that bbe— much bigger news story if that was the case. _ much bigger news story if that was the case. i— much bigger news story if that was the case. i just hope that if they are going to do this, i mean, they are saying that it's going to be a peaceful protest despite fact they're taking despite the fact they're taking bolt get into the bolt cutters to get into the actual aintree arena. but it's dangerous. mean, these dangerous. i mean, these are highly trained animals. they're very skittish . and have very skittish. and if you have any anxiety with people protesting , not only will horses protesting, not only will horses potentially get hurt, which is what they're protesting against, but also people might . but what but also people might. but what are the police going— but also people might. but what are the police going to- wgt1 but what are the police going to do? are bbey— are the police going to do? are bbey going— are the police going to do? are bbey going be— are the police going to do? are bbey going be be— are the police going to do? are they going to be all woke like bbey— they going to be all woke like bbey ee— they going to be all woke like bbey wbbb— they going to be all woke like they are with these ridiculous bebbnebben— they are with these ridiculous extinction protesters? they are with these ridiculous extinc probably. protesters? they are with these ridiculous extincprobably. and protesters? they are with these ridiculous extincprobably. and protesttheir yeah, probably. and soothe their beweeeb— yeah, probably. and soothe their beweeeb-tebn— yeah, probably. and soothe their fevered-join in- yeah, probably. and soothe their fevered-join in and- yeah, probably. and soothe their fevered join in and check fevered brows, join in and check bbey-ee— fevered brows, join in and check bbey-ee ebey— fevered brows, join in and check bbey-ee ebey ee— fevered brows, join in and check they're okay or are— fevered brows, join in and check they're okay or are they going to they're okay or are they going be ebewe — they're okay or are they going to shove _out _ they're okay or are they going to shove _out the - they're okay or are they going to shove out the way? to shove them out the way? webb. — to shove them out the way? webb. yew — to shove them out the way? well, you know,— to shove them out the way? well, you know, as- to shove them out the way? well, you know, as you're glueing yourself beaches, glueing yourself to beaches, brook, not a good idea, brook, which is not a good idea, don't the way, would don't do that. by the way, would you tea? would you you like a cup of tea? would you like a blanket know, because the police have been alarmingly weak like a blanket know, because the po|someive been alarmingly weak like a blanket know, because the po|some of been alarmingly weak like a blanket know, because the po|some of these alarmingly weak like a blanket know, because the po|some of these protests. .y weak on some of these protests. well, i just want everybody to have a

good and come out of it good day and come out of it safely. are you having a flutter? i will have flutter, flutter? i will have a flutter, but can't remember which but i can't remember which horse i'm flutter. normally i'm having a flutter. i normally and terrible being such and this is terrible being such and this is terrible being such a i always a bet on a girl. i always have a bet on the horses that are wearing claret and blue because west ham's my football but ham's my football team, but they're they're doing ham's my football team, but they'rewell they're doing ham's my football team, but they'rewell at they're doing ham's my football team, but they'rewell at the hey're doing ham's my football team, but they'rewell at the moment.ng really well at the moment. i know they're doing badly. yeah. thank much. well, you thank you very much. well, you ever flatterlflutter? _ thank you very much. well, you ever flatterlflutter? - thank you very much. well, you ever flatterlflutter? what- thank you very much. well, you ever flatter flutter? what is ever flatter a flutter? what is bbeb.— ever flatter a flutter? what is ebewlbebb— ever flatter a flutter? what is that, bet? that's totally that, a bet? oh, that's totally how much i know. i don't think so. don't have plans on it currently. why not? yeah currently. yes. why not? yeah just. just do a couple of bewnbe. — just. just do a couple of bewnee. bee— just do a couple of pounds. yes exactly. /witw. pounds. yes exactly. you never knew.— pounds. yes exactly. you never know. guess sometimes know. i guess sometimes unimportant, though, on this story, gambling raises so much money for the economy . and if as money for the economy. and if as an animal rising— money for the economy. and if as an animal rising want— money for the economy. and if as an animal rising want to- t and if as an animal rising want to do they wenb— an animal rising want to do they wenb be— an animal rising want to do they wenb be ben— an animal rising want to do they want to ban horse— an animal rising want to do they want to ban horse racing . you want to ban horse racing. you bmew— want to ban horse racing. you bmew wbeb— want to ban horse racing. you know what happens when you ban ebwbbb— know what happens when you ban ebwbbb bb— know what happens when you ban ebwbbb bb beee— know what happens when you ban stuff? it goes underground. beeb. — stuff? it goes underground. beeb. ane— stuff? it goes underground. yeah. and how— stuff? it goes underground. yeah. and how would those enbmebe— yeah. and how would those enbmebe be— yeah. and how would those animals be treated then? “wi;,w animals be treated then? they wbbb— animals be treated then? they wbbb ebee— animals be treated then? they wbbb ebee be— animals be treated then? they will also be banning equestrianism, which we're very good at in the olympics. show jumping every form of sport involving horses. they would ban

all of it. yeah. and you know wbebb— all of it. yeah. and you know wbebb ane— all of it. yeah. and you know what? and the _ c yeah. and you know what? and the important thing is, what? and the important thing be beeebne— what? and the important thing be beeebne bn— what? and the important thing is, bearing in mind what's bebbenbno— is, bearing in mind what's happening in— is, bearing in mind what's bebbenbne bn e— is, bearing in mind what's happening in a couple of weeks bbme— happening in a couple of weeks bbme wbbb— happening in a couple of weeks time with the— happening in a couple of weeks time with the kings coronation beee— time with the kings coronation bee bwbbbne— time with the kings coronation horses pulling that four tonne eebeb— horses pulling that four tonne eebe—webb- horses pulling that four tonne. gold _would .that gold coast, they would ban that be — gold coast, they would ban that be -bbey— gold coast, they would ban that too. _they would- gold coast, they would ban that too. they would ban the too. yeah. so they would ban the bwe. — too. yeah. so they would ban the bwe. ane— too. yeah. so they would ban the bwe. bwb-bbey— too. yeah. so they would ban the two. and .they these- two. and are they these intensely people are intensely irritating people are going now disrupt the going to now try and disrupt the coronation ? well, let's hope coronation? well, let's hope neb.— coronation? well, let's hope neb. b— coronation? well, let's hope neb. b meew— coronation? well, let's hope neb. b b— coronation? well, let's hope not. i mean, i think- t witw“7 well, let's hope not. i mean, i think nigel beeeee— not. i mean, i think nigel beeeee wee— not. i mean, i think nigel farage was absolutely right on the farage was absolutely right on bbe-yew— farage was absolutely right on the-you showed- farage was absolutely right on the you showed there, the clip that you showed there, bbeb—ebmbbyl that these horses just simply wewbbn-b— that these horses just simply wouldn't they've been wouldn't exist. they've been beeb. — wouldn't exist. they've been beeb—be- wouldn't exist. they've been bred._be killed| wouldn't exist. they've been- bred._be killed after bred. they would be killed after you bred. they would be killed after yew—bbbe.- you know, that's the thing. i bbeb-e— you know, that's the thing. i mean, that's-sad- you know, that's the thing. i mean, that's sad reality. mean, that's the sad reality. beeb. — mean, that's the sad reality. beeb. bemne— mean, that's the sad reality. yeah. joanna, let's— mean, that's the sad reality. yeah. joanna, let's come- mean, that's the sad reality. yeah. joanna, let's come back to you. right. what story would you like to should we i mean, just in case just in case joe biden is appear on our is going to appear on our screens very soon, should do screens very soon, should we do your story the guardian, your story from the guardian, which president biden telling which is president biden telling a peace and economic security go together in ireland? yes and he's put his money g t“ 27 “55 and he's put his money where his mewbb— he's put his money where his mewbb be. — he's put his money where his mouth is. you— he's put his money where his mouth is. you could say he's bbeeeeb— mouth is. you could say he's bbeeoee be— mouth is. you could say he's pledged £6 billion worth of bweeeeeb— pledged £6 billion worth of investors if— pledged £6 billion worth of investors if the— pledged £6 billion worth of investors if the storm power ebeebne— investors if the storm power ebeebne be— investors if the storm power sharing is restored . and sharing is restored. and eebwebby— sharing is restored. and actually, this- sharing is restored. and actually, this really annoys me. i actually, this really annoys me. bbweb— actually, this really annoys me. we bbbnb— actually, this really annoys me. i just think who— actually, this really annoys me. i just think who does he think he i just think who does he think be beb— i just think who does he think be beb ane—

i just think who does he think be beb ame b— i just think who does he think he is? and i know— i just think who does he think he is? and i know the obvious answer is the— he is? and i know the obvious answer is the president of the wnbee— answer is the president of the united states. _ answer is the president of the united states. i'm with you on bbbe.— united states. i'm with you on be. bwb— united states. i'm with you on be. bwb bwb— united states. i'm with you on this. but but he's— united states. i'm with you on this. but but he's interfering in this. but but he's interfering bn ewe— this. but but he's interfering in our national— this. but but he's interfering in our national sovereignty. i bbbe— in our national sovereignty. i bbbe be— in our national sovereignty. i bbbe be e— in our national sovereignty. i mean, this is a clear attack wbem— mean, this is a clear attack wben bbe— mean, this is a clear attack upon the sovereignty of great bebbebw— upon the sovereignty of great bebbebn. bb— upon the sovereignty of great bebbebn. bb be— upon the sovereignty of great britain. it is not— upon the sovereignty of great britain. it is not up to president— britain. it is not up to president biden swanning president biden to come swanning in president biden to come swanning bn eneb— president biden to come swanning bn ene bbme— president biden to come swanning bn ene bbnb eb— president biden to come swanning in and kind of dictate terms as to in and kind of dictate terms as be wbeb— in and kind of dictate terms as be wbeb be— in and kind of dictate terms as to what he thinks— in and kind of dictate terms as to what he thinks tony blair, of wbem — to what he thinks tony blair, of wbem bm— to what he thinks tony blair, of wbem b-m neb— to what he thinks tony blair, of whom i'm not a— to what he thinks tony blair, of whom i'm not a great fan of, but on whom i'm not a great fan of, but en weebbeen— whom i'm not a great fan of, but on northern ireland, he did eeeeb— on northern ireland, he did eeeeb ebwbb— on northern ireland, he did great stuff with— on northern ireland, he did great stuff with the northern beebenb— great stuff with the northern ireland agreement. wi; 2 t“ ireland agreement. he said in an interview the other day to joe biden, lecture cajole biden, do not lecture and cajole the unionist community on this because it will back fire up. don't them what to do. no. don't tell them what to do. no. and he's he's talking i t“ c w2witw no. and he's he's talking about beee-e— and he's he's talking about beeee bwb— and he's he's talking about peace. but the— and he's he's talking about peace. but the irony is he's be-e— peace. but the irony is he's he's interfering— peace. but the irony is he's he's interfering in such a way wbbeb— he's interfering in such a way wbbeb mbebb— he's interfering in such a way which might have precisely the ebeeebe— which might have precisely the opposite effect.— which might have precisely the opposite effect. it seems to me bbeb— opposite effect. it seems to me bbeb bbben— opposite effect. it seems to me bbeb bbben be— opposite effect. it seems to me that biden is, if— opposite effect. it seems to me that biden is, if not anti bebbbew— that biden is, if not anti british, then— that biden is, if not anti british, then definitely anti—brexit_ british, then definitely anti—brexit and his loathing of beenb.— anti—brexit and his loathing of beenb. bb— anti—brexit and his loathing of beenb. bb new— anti—brexit and his loathing of brexit, it now is— anti—brexit and his loathing of brexit, it now is having an bnbbwenee— brexit, it now is having an influence upon— brexit, it now is having an influence upon the way he eebebee— influence upon the way he eebebee be— influence upon the way he relates to britain as a whole. ane— relates to britain as a whole. ame b— relates to britain as a whole. ame b bweb— relates to britain as a whole. and i just think— relates to britain as a whole. and i just think he needs to en— and i just think he needs to bb— and i just think he needs to bb bn— and i just think he needs to bb bn be— and i just think he needs to rein it in to hark— and i just think he needs to rein it in to hark back to the beenewe— rein it in to hark back to the beewbewe ebeey— rein it in to hark back to the previous story and not interfere . i previous story and not interfere . b meew— previous story and not interfere . b be-e— previous story and not interfere . i mean, he's seeing britain as

bbme— . i mean, he's seeing britain as bbnb eb— . i mean, he's seeing britain as some kind of well,— . i mean, he's seeing britain as some kind of well, third world eewnbey— some kind of well, third world eewnbey. be— some kind of well, third world eewnbey. be we— some kind of well, third world country, to use a— some kind of well, third world country, to use a derogatory beem— country, to use a derogatory beem bbeb— country, to use a derogatory term that he— country, to use a derogatory term that he can- country, to use a derogatory term that he can come across and bbme— term that he can come across and bbnb eb— term that he can come across and bbnb eb beeb— term that he can come across and bbnb eb beeb bb— term that he can come across and kind of lord it over— term that he can come across and kind of lord it over and start bbebebbne— kind of lord it over and start dictating what— kind of lord it over and start dictating what we should do. wi; dictating what we should do. he nebee— dictating what we should do. he mebee ne— dictating what we should do. he makes no secret— dictating what we should do. he makes no secret of— dictating what we should do. he makes no secret of the- dictating what we should do. he makes no secret of the fact- dictating what we should do. he makes no secret of the fact he wants a united ireland. yes, absolutely. northern ireland is part of the united kingdom. exactly. and but but that's not bbben-e— exactly. and but but that's not biden's decision— exactly. and but but that's not biden's decision to— >e

be-e— supposed to be with where is he? bee-bbeee. — supposed to be with where is he? bee-bbeee. b— supposed to be with where is he? he's-there. i mean,- supposed to be with where is he? he's there. he's not there. i mean, we've seen lovely pictures of a sun drenched park, but it's not actually at the actually happening at the moment, but it's also moment, is it? but but it's also a moment, is it? but but it's also e enwb. — moment, is it? but but it's also e enwb. b— moment, is it? but but it's also eenwb. b meew— moment, is it? but but it's also a snub. i mean, the— moment, is it? but but it's also a snub. i mean, the fact- 7 but but it's also a snub. i mean, the fact that me— a snub. i mean, the fact that bee-bbbe— a snub. i mean, the fact that he's-this fleeting- a snub. i mean, the fact that he's this fleeting visit to he's made this fleeting visit to weebbeen— he's made this fleeting visit to bebbem-eneb- he's made this fleeting visit to northern and then goes northern ireland and then goes and northern ireland and then goes ene—eeeb— northern ireland and then goes ene—eeeb eb- northern ireland and then goes and—rest of his- northern ireland and then goes and rest of his time and spends the rest of his time in and spends the rest of his time bn beebenb— and spends the rest of his time in ireland and— and spends the rest of his time in ireland and he's— and spends the rest of his time in ireland and he's coming in ireland and he's not coming be— in ireland and he's not coming be bbe— in ireland and he's not coming over to the coronation. he's not coming— over to the coronation. he's not eenbe-be— over to the coronation. he's not coming-to-island- over to the coronation. he's not coming-to-island of. coming over to the island of meeb— coming over to the island of great britain. _ coming over to the island of great britain. such. you'd great britain. as such. you'd bmew.— great britain. as such. you'd know, england,— great britain. as such. you'd know, england, scotland and webee. — know, england, scotland and wales. .there's- know, england, scotland and wales. and there's another big event with the 25th event to do with the 25th anniversary northern ireland anniversary of northern ireland peace in a few weeks peace agreement in a few weeks time. and he's not coming to that either. no suggestion is because who's because hillary clinton, who's husband huge figure in the husband was a huge figure in the northern peace deal, is northern ireland peace deal, is going stage he going to be centre stage and he can't going to be centre stage and he cant be going to be centre stage and he can't be upstaged by can't bear to be upstaged by her. should absorb fame her. he should absorb her fame because she's more popular. probably in america than he is. no no, absolutely no . like no no, absolutely no. like i say, i really think- no no, absolutely no. like i say, i really think he's- say, i really think he's overstepped- say, i really think he's overstepped the mark on this b— overstepped the mark on this occasion. i think— overstepped the mark on this occasion. c overstepped the mark on this occasion. i think it's i think it's unfortunate for the people of northern ireland and the island of ireland that this has been such a divisive visit when it's meant to be doing the opposite. yeah yeah, it really

is. and you know, you've got stories coming out, visiting all these cousins, you knows every single fifth cousin by name who doesn't. but this is one of my favourite quotes about his family with his bertie family with his auntie bertie told father wasn't told him your father wasn't a bad man , just an english man. bad man, just an english man. yes. so when we're concentrating on stories that rather than on stories like that rather than the northern ireland peace protocol and actually getting stormont back up and running and i think popped over i don't think he's popped over to father's english to see his father's english heritage has he? no, no. i mean, the implication is that a lot of this is for how it plays out with an american audience and is it 30 to 40 million irish catholics vote in catholics who vote in a presidential election? but but again, the again, i really resent the idea that that of great that that citizens of great britain northern ireland britain and northern ireland become pawns become the political pawns of biden's campaign. he's biden's election campaign. he's going to run again to be- going to run again to be weebbenb— going to run again to be president. what do you think ebewb— president. what do you think ebewb bbebb— president. what do you think about that? _ president. what do you think about that? oh,— president. what do you think about that? c“ [2 president. what do you think about that? c“ cw2 t: t“ c about that? oh, god, i couldn't think of anything worse. and i think of anything worse. and i think really think many people are really coming opinion because coming to that opinion because it's he's even there. it's like he's not even there. he doesn't he is half he doesn't know where he is half the . and the thing is and the time. and the thing is and the time. and the thing is and bbe ibing— the time. and the thing is and bbe thing be— the time. and the thing is and the thing is, you— c and the thing is and the thing is, you know, if he's 18 the thing is, you know, if he's be-be-e— the thing is, you know, if he's be-be-e neb— the thing is, you know, if he's be-be-e neb e— the thing is, you know, if he's 18 he's not a young 80, is

18 and he's not a young 80, is beb— 18 and he's not a young 80, is beb we— 18 and he's not a young 80, is beb we be-e— 18 and he's not a young 80, is he? no he's an— 18 and he's not a young 80, is he? no he's an old. yes. yeah b-m — he? no he's an old. yes. yeah in ne— he? no he's an old. yes. yeah in ne ben— he? no he's an old. yes. yeah in ne ben eb— he? no he's an old. yes. yeah i'm no fan of trump's, but trump at i'm no fan of trump's, but trump eb 77— i'm no fan of trump's, but trump eb 77 eeeme— i'm no fan of trump's, but trump at 77 seems .years_ i'm no fan of trump's, but trump at 77 seems years younger at 77 seems 15 years younger bben. — at 77 seems 15 years younger bben. n..— at 77 seems 15 years younger than. no, absolutely.- at 77 seems 15 years younger than. \wwitw dig c than. no, absolutely. but it also makes me that this is also makes me think that this is why democrats are very keen why the democrats are very keen to have trump standing as the republican candidate . because i republican candidate. because i think the optics of biden v trump, two old men essentially would play a lot better than if it was someone like ron desantis, who so younger. desantis, who so much younger. i mean, really show mean, that would really show biden up for the doddie old man. it's quite it's quite astonishing, isn't it? i mean, bebbbbee— astonishing, isn't it? i mean, bebbbbee be— astonishing, isn't it? i mean, bebbbbee be e— astonishing, isn't it? i mean, politics is a basket case in meny— politics is a basket case in many countries— politics is a basket case in many countries around the world at many countries around the world eb-memenb.— many countries around the world eb-memenb. b— many countries around the world at moment. i mean, our very at the moment. i mean, our very ewn—bb-e— at the moment. i mean, our very ewn—bb-e we,- own included. but it's like, wbeb-e— own included. but it's like, what's population of america what's the population of america 7 what's the population of america b _wnw— what's the population of america b —bnw weee- what's the population of america b —bnw be- what's the population of america i ? _and we're to down ? 330 million. and we're to down these men. yeah. and these two men. yeah. and we could to down them again . could be to down them again. what a depressing thought, isn't it what a depressing thought, isn't bblwweb— what a depressing thought, isn't nliuet bbbe— what a depressing thought, isn't it.just like really— what a depressing thought, isn't it.just like really cheer- what a depressing thought, isn't it c t 25 it? just like really cheer us up. what? what else is there? yeah, got fun story. yeah, we've got a fun story. what else? we'll try. so we're going— what else? we'll try. so we're going be— what else? we'll try. so we're going be eewee.— what else? we'll try. so we're going to cover, i— what else? we'll try. so we're going to cover, i think, the npr wbbb— going to cover, i think, the npr wbbb ee— going to cover, i think, the npr wbbb ee bbe— going to cover, i think, the npr with so the national public bebbe— with so the national public beebe .— with so the national public beebe . se— with so the national public radio . so they've they've radio. so they've they've beyeebbeb — radio. so they've they've boycotted twitter essentially bee— boycotted twitter essentially because they've _ boycotted twitter essentially because they've been labelled as

by bbe— because they've been labelled as by bbe bbebbeem— because they've been labelled as by the platform as— because they've been labelled as by the platform as state affiliated— by the platform as state affiliated media. so now all 53 of affiliated media. so now all 53 eb bbeb— affiliated media. so now all 53 of their accounts,— affiliated media. so now all 53 of their accounts, they've just ebebbeb— of their accounts, they've just ebebbee beebbne— of their accounts, they've just stopped posting entirely. but bbey— stopped posting entirely. but bbey ebe— stopped posting entirely. but bbey be eeb— stopped posting entirely. but they do get they do get funding beem— they do get they do get funding beem bbe— they do get they do get funding from the federal— they do get they do get funding from the federal government, bbeweb— from the federal government, even though it— from the federal government, even though it is— from the federal government, even though it is minimal. so eebwebby— even though it is minimal. so eebwebby bbe — even though it is minimal. so actually the state— even though it is minimal. so actually the state affiliated mebbe— actually the state affiliated media label— actually the state affiliated media label does actually apply to media label does actually apply be bbem— media label does actually apply to them because— media label does actually apply to them because they do get that bebeeeb— to them because they do get that federal funding— to them because they do get that federal funding erg. but then bbey— federal funding erg. but then bbey bben— federal funding erg. but then they then came— federal funding erg. but then they then came back and said, oh, they then came back and said, eb. yew— they then came back and said, ew yew bmew.— they then came back and said, oh, you know, we— they then came back and said, oh, you know, we don't we don't bbbnb— oh, you know, we don't we don't bbbnb bbeb— oh, you know, we don't we don't think that this— oh, you know, we don't we don't think that this represents us. ane— think that this represents us. and bben— think that this represents us. and then elon— think that this represents us. and then elon musk actually eeeeeebeb— and then elon musk actually corrected it,— and then elon musk actually corrected it, but— and then elon musk actually corrected it, but they're still beyeebbbne— corrected it, but they're still beyeebbbno bb— corrected it, but they're still boycotting it. so— corrected it, but they're still boycotting it. so i think for bbem— boycotting it. so i think for men. bbe— boycotting it. so i think for them, it's just— boycotting it. so i think for them, it's just it's just an excuse to call— them, it's just it's just an excuse to call out twitter bee— excuse to call out twitter because they _ excuse to call out twitter because they don't agree with bben— because they don't agree with bben-bn— because they don't agree with elon _in itself. - because they don't agree with elon in itself. but then elon musk in itself. but then wbeb— elon musk in itself. but then what interesting, i what was really interesting, i bbbnb—ben-b- what was really interesting, ii think—don't know what was really interesting, i- think—don't know if, think, was when i don't know if, you— think, was when i don't know if, yew bmew— think, was when i don't know if, yew bmew .— think, was when i don't know if, you know , those— think, was when i don't know if, you know , those of— think, was when i don't know if, you know , those of at home you know, those of you at home mom— you know, those of you at home mbebb-eeen— you know, those of you at home might-seen elon- you know, those of you at home might seen elon musk doing might have seen elon musk doing the might have seen elon musk doing bbe bnbeewbew— might have seen elon musk doing the interview with— might have seen elon musk doing the interview with bbc. the interview with the bbc. bbeb-e— the interview with the bbc. bbeb-e-ebeey. - the interview with the bbc. that's story. “55 the interview with the bbc.- that's-story. yes , yes, that's a great story. yes, yes, yee. ow— that's a great story. yes, yes, yee. ob. ebeee— that's a great story. yes, yes, yee. ob. beee .— that's a great story. yes, yes, yes. oh, dear. is— that's a great story. yes, yes, yes. oh, dear. is all- that's a great story. “55 ywi;5 ywi;5 oh, dear. is all i can say. yes. oh, dear. is all i can say. bbe— yes. oh, dear. is all i can say. bbe bbe— yes. oh, dear. is all i can say. bbe bbc wee— ywi;5 oh, dear. is all i can say. the bbc were completely stumped . se— the bbc were completely stumped . se bbeb— the bbc were completely stumped . se bbeb wee— the bbc were completely stumped . so that was embarrassing. this is . so that was embarrassing. this be bweb— . so that was embarrassing. this be tweb be— . so that was embarrassing. this be tweb be bbb— . so that was embarrassing. this is just to fill people in the background. _ is just to fill people in the background. t“ ” background. this is their the bbc journalist got an exclusive sit down chat with elon musk. incredibly rare thing to do. he

had few hours to prepare had a good few hours to prepare to it so turned up to do this interview. right. and you would prepare i mean, would prepare i mean, we would prepare. you'd a few prepare. you'd make a few notes possibly. think i think possibly. i think the i think the possibly. i think the i think bbe meeb— i think the i think the most significant part it the most significant part of it wbem— the most significant part of it was when-bbc- the most significant part of it was when bbc journalist was when the bbc journalist eebeb— was when the bbc journalist said, .twitter_ was when the bbc journalist said,-twitter has- was when the bbc journalist said, twitter has a lot of said, oh, twitter has a lot of bebebwb— said, oh, twitter has a lot of hateful content— said, oh, twitter has a lot of hateful content and that elon bweb—b- hateful content and that elon bweb—b eebebi musk challenged him. i said, ebey— musk challenged him. i said, ebew—bbe- musk challenged him. i said,- okay,_the content? okay, well, what is the content? ane— okay, well, what is the content? ame-bbbe. — okay, well, what is the content? and-like, well,- and then he's like, well, i een-b— and then he's like, well, i eeeb-eny- and then he's like, well, i can't any examples. he and then he's like, well, i- can't-any examples. he was can't name any examples. he was bbbeeebby— can't name any examples. he was literally-stumbling- literally just stumbling over bbmeebb— literally just stumbling over himself- musk- literally just stumbling over himself musk was literally just stumbling over- himself-musk was like, himself and elon musk was like, webb— himself and elon musk was like, webb eene— himself and elon musk was like, webb — himself and elon musk was like, well, come on. example, just well, come on. one example, just ebwe— well, come on. one example, just ewe-ane— well, come on. one example, just ewe-ame bbey— well, come on. one example, just give-and they were- well, come on. one example, just give and they were like, give me one. and they were like, i give me one. and they were like, b een-b— give me one. and they were like, b een-b ane— give me one. and they were like, b een-b ame bb— give me one. and they were like, i can't. and it just— give me one. and they were like, i can't. and it just looked very embeeeeeebne— i can't. and it just looked very embarrassing-the. i can't. and it just looked very. embarrassing.-the bbc embarrassing. you know, the bbc put embarrassing. you know, the bbc bwb-weebewe— embarrassing. you know, the bbc put-various takes— embarrassing. you know, the bbc put various takes from the put out various takes from the bnbeewbew— put out various takes from the interview,-they_ put out various takes from the interview, they omitted that interview, but they omitted that bit. interview, but they omitted that bbb. — interview, but they omitted that bbb. beeb.— interview, but they omitted that bbb. beewleen— interview, but they omitted that bit. yeah,lcan imagine- interview, but they omitted that bit. “55 t“ t t“ t“5w2 bit. yeah, i can imagine why. and it was humiliating, honestly. i mean, but lots of unforgivable. put honestly. i mean, but lots of unforgivable . put it on twitter. unforgivable. put it on twitter. beeb — unforgivable. put it on twitter. yeah good. he— unforgivable. put it on twitter. yeah good. he could- c. “biw”wg put it on twitter. yeah c2 he could have. i mean yeah good. he could have. i mean , yeah good. he could have. i mean wee be— yeah good. he could have. i mean , joanna, he could— yeah good. he could have. i mean , joanna, he could have— , joanna, he could have bbbeeebby— , joanna, he could have bbbeeebby. b— , joanna, he could have literally. i mean, the bbc eebeebee— literally. i mean, the bbc reporter literally picked on any subject— reporter literally picked on any ewbteeb beem — reporter literally picked on any subject from sort— reporter literally picked on any subject from sort of like, you bmew.— subject from sort of like, you know, women's— subject from sort of like, you know, women's rights . it's know, women's rights. it's racism.-thing.. know, women's rights. it'si racism.-thing. and know, women's rights. it's- racism.-thing. and he racism. anything thing. and he wewbeb— racism. anything thing. and he wewbeb bewe— racism. anything thing. and he would have had— racism. anything thing. and he would have had a— racism. anything thing. and he would have had a point about bwbbbee— would have had a point about bwbbbee bebne— would have had a point about twitter being a— would have had a point about twitter being a bit of a cesspit eeeeebenebby— twitter being a bit of a cesspit occasionally with— twitter being a bit of a cesspit occasionally with hate speech. he occasionally with hate speech. be eewbb— occasionally with hate speech. he could have— occasionally with hate speech. he could have referred that bbc eebeebee—

he could have referred that bbc reporter-amount- he could have referred that bbc reporter amount of racist reporter to the amount of racist be — reporter to the amount of racist be bbme— reporter to the amount of racist abuse. diane abbott,- reporter to the amount of racist abuse. diane abbott, the labour mp, gets on twitter hourly mp, gets on twitter on an hourly bafis mp, gets on twitter on an hourly basis probably than any basis more probably than any other in britain. other politician in britain. i think it really exposed the bbc and this this interview. james clayton and the thing- james clayton and the thing that eebeeeb— clayton and the thing that eebeeeb bb— clayton and the thing that exposed it for— clayton and the thing that exposed it for me was that if you— exposed it for me was that if yew ee— exposed it for me was that if yew web.— exposed it for me was that if you are woke, if— exposed it for me was that if you are woke, if you think that you— you are woke, if you think that yew bewe— you are woke, if you think that yew bewe ebb— you are woke, if you think that you have all the— you are woke, if you think that you have all the right opinions, bben— you have all the right opinions, bben bbe— you have all the right opinions, then the assumption is you don't eebwebby— then the assumption is you don't eebwebby neeeb— then the assumption is you don't actually need to— then the assumption is you don't actually need to do— then the assumption is you don't actually need to do your research,-don't- actually need to do your research, don't need actually need to do your research,-don't need put research, you don't need to put the research, you don't need to put bbe-eebwebby- research, you don't need to put the actually reading up the hours in actually reading up and the hours in actually reading up ene bbbnbbne— the hours in actually reading up and thinking carefully about wbeb— and thinking carefully about wbeb yew— and thinking carefully about what you want— and thinking carefully about what you want to ask and the bebbe— what you want to ask and the bebnbe yew— what you want to ask and the points you want— what you want to ask and the points you want to make. just bee— points you want to make. just because-right,- points you want to make. just because right, you're because you're right, you're automatically— because you're right, you're- automatically—think automatically right. and i think bbeb-e— automatically right. and i think that's-assumption- automatically right. and i think that's assumption that these that's the assumption that these beebbe— that's the assumption that these beewe-bme— that's the assumption that these people - into these - people carry into these interviews— people carry into these interviews .— people carry into these interviews . and he was really interviews. and he was really bebeb— interviews. and he was really bebeb by— interviews. and he was really bebeb by bbe— interviews. and he was really hoist by his own— interviews. and he was really hoist by his own petard on this ie— hoist by his own petard on this ie bey— hoist by his own petard on this occasion. .a joy to- hoist by his own petard on this occasion. a joy to see it occasion. it's a joy to see it bee— occasion. it's a joy to see it was toe curlingly- occasion. it's a joy to see it was toe curlingly embarrassing . was toe curlingly embarrassing. it was toe curlingly embarrassing. bb eeebby.— was toe curlingly embarrassing. wb eeebby. eeebby— was toe curlingly embarrassing. it really, really well— was toe curlingly embarrassing. it really, really well if— was toe curlingly embarrassing. it really, really well if i- was toe curlingly embarrassing. it really, really well if i was, it really, really well if i was, i just i just would know. i was just too painful to even watch. i sort of quite enjoyed it bee— i sort of quite enjoyed it be b— i sort of quite enjoyed it because i thought you fool. beeb.— because i thought you fool. beeb. yew— because i thought you fool. yeah, you fool. _ because i thought you fool. yeah, you fool. you've- because i thought you fool. yeah, you fool. you've got one of the most famous , the richest of the most famous, the richest man, most powerful man in the world. and here you haven't done

your basic and so rare to get sit chat. and you know, sit down, chat. and you know, the journalists— c 2 wt.“5 and you know, the journalists concerned i. the journalists concerned i- mean, you know we've we've done bbbe— mean, you know we've we've done bbbe ebb— mean, you know we've we've done bbbe ebb ewe— mean, you know we've we've done this all our lives— mean, you know we've we've done this all our lives and— mean, you know we've we've done this all our lives and that's a bent— this all our lives and that's a bent bbme— this all our lives and that's a long time between us about 300 yee— long time between us about 300 yewe-yew— long time between us about 300 years.-you-actually. long time between us about 300 years. you actually he years. but you would actually he eebeb— years. but you would actually he eebe-ebebb— years. but you would actually he said,-didn't have- years. but you would actually he said, didn't have much, said, well, i didn't have much, mweb— said, well, i didn't have much, mweb-be— said, well, i didn't have much, much-to prepare.- said, well, i didn't have much, much to prepare. no he had much time to prepare. no he had like much time to prepare. no he had bbbe bewe— much time to prepare. no he had like four hours.— much time to prepare. no he had like four hours. yeah. yeah ceme— like four hours. yeah. yeah come on. you— like four hours. yeah. yeah witwt“ you would have had come on. you would have had eeeeeeeeeml-b- come on. you would have had access-a-team of- come on. you would have had. access-a-team of people access to a whole team of people to access to a whole team of people be bebb. — access to a whole team of people be bebb. bee.— access to a whole team of people be bebb. bee. be— access to a whole team of people to help. yes. he works with the bbc. — to help. yes. he works with the bbc. nooe— to help. yes. he works with the bbc. $767 000 wi;t“ to help. yes. he works with the bbc. 2:7 000 wi;t“ “bi;”wi; bbc. 22,000 employees. there would so many licence would have been so many licence fees been thrown fees that could have been thrown at any of them had just at that if any of them had just thought to ask the right question. but like i say, bbeee-e— question. but like i say,- bbeee-e—bbeb question. but like i say,- there's_that if there's this presumption that if yewee— there's this presumption that if yewe-ebebb— there's this presumption that if you're-right and- you're morally right and bebbbbeebby— you're morally right and- politically—don't politically correct, you don't eebwebby— politically correct, you don't actually evidence. you actually need evidence. you ben-b— actually need evidence. you bebb-be— actually need evidence. you don't-to back- actually need evidence. you don't to back your don't need to back up your eeowmenb. — don't need to back up your eeowmenb. b— don't need to back up your argument. 2 �*7 don't need to back up your argument. �*7 t“ argument. i wonder if he's been rebuked. well, i hope so. i've still got a job. i think he's beebebby— still got a job. i think he's beebebby be-e— still got a job. i think he's probably he's taken- cc wgitw i think he's probably he's taken some credit for probably he's taken some credit bee bb— probably he's taken some credit bee bb en— probably he's taken some credit for it on social— probably he's taken some credit for it on social media, i think. bwb— for it on social media, i think. bwbleen— for it on social media, i think. butican imagine— for it on social media, i think. but can imagine he's been but i can imagine he's been wnbee— but i can imagine he's been wnbee-bee— but i can imagine he's been under-for that.- but i can imagine he's been under for that. just under fire for that. i just bbewebb— under fire for that. i just thought whole under fire for that. i just- thought-whole-was just thought the whole thing was just bneeebbbby— thought the whole thing was just incredibly embarrassing for him. beeb.— incredibly embarrassing for him. beewlbbbnb— incredibly embarrassing for him. yeah, think they're just yeah, i think they're just beybne— yeah, i think they're just. beybno—ewen trying to make it look even ebbebbby— trying to make it look even ebbobbby .— trying to make it look even ebbobbby . en— trying to make it look even slightly , an achievement that we slightly, an achievement that we got slightly, an achievement that we eeb bbbe — slightly, an achievement that we eeb bbbe ee— slightly, an achievement that we eeb bbbe eb— slightly, an achievement that we got like one of the— slightly, an achievement that we got like one of the most beweebwb— got like one of the most powerful men.- got like one of the most- powerful men.-don't powerful men. but no, i don't bbbnb— powerful men. but no, i don't bbbnb ee— powerful men. but no, i don't bbbnb ee. — powerful men. but no, i don't think so. right.— powerful men. but no, i don't think so. right. so- powerful men. but no, i don't think so . 3wg1 t“wg

think so. right. so talking i mean, talking of powerful men, tom tom harwood is still with us actually gazing at your screen. there is we're seeing pictures from dublin at the moment. there is we're seeing pictures from dublin at the moment . we from dublin at the moment. we are waiting for president are still waiting for president biden to arrive in phoenix park. and i think you can tell us a bew— and i think you can tell us a bew beebe— and i think you can tell us a bew beebe eb— and i think you can tell us a few facts of that. fit“ ;e< few facts of that. phoenix park. i actually visited phoenix park just a few months ago. it is, in fact, one of the largest parks in europe. a beautiful, in europe. it's a beautiful, big, big park. and in the middle of it, there is an obelisk, the large schist obelisk in europe dedicated duke of dedicated to the duke of wellington. and it was constructed after the duke of wellington won the battle of waterloo in, what was it, 18, 12, 15. there we go. i 12, 18, 15. there we go. i remember it well,- �*zz�* 3 ”in t“wi;”wi; w2witw i remember it well, don't 12, 18, 15. there we go. i- remember it well, don't you? been— remember it well, don't you? beeb .— remember it well, don't you? beeb . beeb.— remember it well, don't you? yeah . yeah. there's- remember it well, don't you? yeah . yeah. there's a- remember it well, don't you? “55 t“ “55 t“ “wi;”wi; remember it well, don't you? yeah . yeah. there's a zoo in the yeah. yeah. there's a zoo in the park. there's all sorts of. and it does sort of dominate when you get up to any tall building in dublin, you can look out on this park and it is vast and of course, is the home of the irish president as well, is pretty magnet decent. it is. it's like its very own white palace you to

give me the gaelic pronunciation of that official residence. i will have you can't because i een-b — will have you can't because i een-b b— will have you can't because i een-b bwbbb— will have you can't because i can't. i will not— will have you can't because i can't. i will not even- will have you can't because i can't. cc t“ can't. i will not even attempt for fear of it's still not there . and we've come to the end of ebew— . and we've come to the end of ebew bee— . and we've come to the end of our show for this— and we've come to the end of our show for this week. coming up our show for this week. coming wb newb— our show for this week. coming wb meeb be— our show for this week. coming wb meeb be eb— our show for this week. coming up next is gb news live with weeb— up next is gb news live with mark longhurst_ up next is gb news live with mark longhurst and here eenbbnweb— mark longhurst and here continued coverage joe biden continued coverage of joe biden in continued coverage of joe biden bn beebenb. — continued coverage of joe biden in ireland. thank— continued coverage of joe biden in ireland. thank you for webebbne— in ireland. thank you for watching. here's andrew pierce. in ireland. thank you for wattdawn here's andrew pierce. in ireland. thank you for wattdawn neesom ndrew pierce. in ireland. thank you for wattdawn neesom andiv pierce. in ireland. thank you for wattdawn neesom and we'llce. in ireland. thank you for wattdawn neesom and we'll see i'm dawn neesom and we'll see yew— i'm dawn neesom and we'll see yew eeebn— i'm dawn neesom and we'll see yew again eeen— i'm dawn neesom and we'll see you again soon. thank you. hello bbeee— you again soon. thank you. hello bbeee . — you again soon. thank you. hello there . welcome— you again soon. thank you. hello there . welcome to— you again soon. thank you. hello there . t ” you again soon. thank you. hello there . ” there. welcome to your thursday weather update from the met office. i'm claire nasir. weather update from the met office. i'm claire nasir . still office. i'm claire nasir. still showery out there. some sunshine coming through. we've lost the sting in the wind, which is good news but fresh, low news, but still fresh, low pressure sinking down towards the low countries. you can see this area of cloud and rain waiting in wings. that will waiting in the wings. that will bnng waiting in the wings. that will bring wet weather across to bring some wet weather across to more southern parts on friday. before that, though, low pressure in charge pressure firmly in charge and that means showers . some that means more showers. some dry across central parts dry weather across central parts of england and wales, but further north, always a swathe of clouds, showery bursts of rain, which could turn heavy later. then we'll see more cloud just encroaching across the southwest. before that, some

southwest. but before that, some dner southwest. but before that, some drier weather to end the day as temperatures climb around 10 temperatures climb to around 10 to 14 c. so slightly higher than yesterday . now, a through yesterday. now, a through thursday evening and overnight, that shower rain continues across the north as well as the east. you can see some clearer skies where we could see a touch of frost before thickening cloud bnngs of frost before thickening cloud brings some outbreaks rain brings some outbreaks of rain towards country through brings some outbreaks of rain tow early country through brings some outbreaks of rain tow early hours country through brings some outbreaks of rain tow early hours (the try through brings some outbreaks of rain tow early hours (the morning. h the early hours of the morning. it to be a cold night it is going to be a cold night away the south—west where away from the south—west where it will be wet, but showers will continue across far north of continue across the far north of scotland here see scotland and here we'll see temperatures four temperatures holding around four degrees again degrees celsius. pick up again as we into tomorrow as we head into tomorrow morning. once the sun gets to work first thing. on friday work first thing. then on friday morning this rain skirts central southern england and southern parts of england and wales towards the wales lingering towards the east. showers develop inland . east. showers develop inland. they will develop readily tomorrow. the likes of heavy tomorrow. the likes of be heavy with of thunder . you with the risk of thunder. you can some intense bursts can see some intense bursts particularly eastern particularly across the eastern side country. brighter side of the country. brighter weather to the day, this weather to end the day, this time western of time across the western side of scotland as as northern scotland as well as northern ireland. temperatures here ireland. and temperatures here 12 13 c. here's your outlook 12 or 13 c. here's your outlook through saturday. some showery

bursts yet again towards the east, dry skies elsewhere after a bit of a frosty start. but at least, though, you'll see some sunshine and a light wind. temperatures, though, through the next days are slowly the next few days are slowly rising . it is the next few days are slowly rising. it is going to feel warmer. there will be some sunshine mix, but always sunshine in the mix, but always more cloud and a little rain towards the as well as towards the north as well as the west .

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and welcome to gb news. live with me, mark longhurst.- ' “2 t cit \w live with me, mark longhurst. let's bebe— with me, mark longhurst. let's bebe yew— with me, mark longhurst. let's bebe yew bwe— with me, mark longhurst. let's take you live to— with me, mark longhurst. let's take you live to dublin because the take you live to dublin because bbe beeebbenb— take you live to dublin because the president has— take you live to dublin because the president has arrived in his mebeeeebe— the president has arrived in his mebeeeebe .— the president has arrived in his motorcade . joe— the president has arrived in his motorcade . joe biden on his way motorcade. joe biden on his way to motorcade. joe biden on his way be meeb— motorcade. joe biden on his way be meeb wbbb— motorcade. joe biden on his way to meet with the— motorcade. joe biden on his way to meet with the irish beeebeenw— to meet with the irish president, michael d higgins. bbeee— president, michael d higgins. bbeee bbe— president, michael d higgins. these the scenes at phoenix park in these the scenes at phoenix park bn bbe— these the scenes at phoenix park bn bbe ebby— these the scenes at phoenix park bn bbe ebby. — these the scenes at phoenix park bn bbe ebby. bbe— these the scenes at phoenix park in the city. w2bi;1 in the city. the president running about half an hour late. so as we can see there, everyone else is catching up to try and make up the clock. and we have got the beast arriving. the president marshal cadillac, the bomb proof, bullet proof and gas proof limousine with the various other outriding vehicles. guard of honour there waiting for the us president and we are being told that there will be a private meeting with the irish president michael d higgins. but there will also ring the peace bell and also clearly discuss the situation in north of the

border as indeed they will on us and irish relations because there's a meeting to the taoiseach, leo varadkar , and taoiseach, leo varadkar, and then a meeting or at least an address of the joint session of the irish parliament to discuss irish us cooperation on told peace, prosperity and security . peace, prosperity and security. nine members of the us congress and one senator with the presidential party and also interestingly , we're being told interestingly, we're being told that in that audience at the parliament building will be gerry adams, the former president of sinn fein, and indeed michelle o'neill, sinn fein's leader in stormont, because of course that was the political focus yesterday of events in northern ireland. but the focus now in the republic. but clearly this effort to try and improve relations will be part of the political narrative today , say and we are being told

today, say and we are being told that certainly in terms