it's kind of mission, isn't it .7 it's kind of mission, isn't it.7 tomorrow i'll also revisit county mayor and remember the history and hope and the heartbreak. my beloved ancestors must— heartbreak. my beloved ancestors must have— heartbreak. my beloved ancestors must have felt— heartbreak. my beloved ancestors must have felt leaving— my beloved ancestors must have felt leaving their beloved— must have felt leaving their beloved homeland to begin a new “ves— beloved homeland to begin a new lives in— beloved homeland to begin a new lives in america— beloved homeland to begin a new lives in america ._ beloved homeland to begin a new lives in america . i— beloved homeland to begin a new lives in america . i sell this lives in america. i sell this not— lives in america. i sell this not to— lives in america. i sell this not to wax— lives in america. i sell this not to wax poetic about bygone days— not to wax poetic about bygone days ,— not to wax poetic about bygone days , but— not to wax poetic about bygone days , but because— not to wax poetic about bygone days , but because of the story days, but because of the story of my— days, but because of the story of my family-s— days, but because of the story of my family's journey and those

who— of my family's journey and those who left— of my family's journey and those who left and— of my family's journey and those who left and those— of my family's journey and those who left and those who stayed is emblematic— who left and those who stayed is emblematic of— who left and those who stayed is emblematic of the— who left and those who stayed is emblematic of the stories of so many— emblematic of the stories of so many irish— emblematic of the stories of so many mm ama— emblematic of the stories of so many irish and american families,— many irish and american families, not— many irish and american families, not just irish amamaam— families, not just irish american families. and these storms— american families. and these stories am— american families. and these stories are the— american families. and these stories are the very heart of what— stories are the very heart of what amas— stories are the very heart of what binds ireland and america mamma— what binds ireland and america aaaamm. may— what binds ireland and america together. they speak to a history— together. they speak to a history defined by our dreams as may— history defined by our dreams as may speak— history defined by our dreams as may speak aa— history defined by our dreams as mey speak aa a— history defined by our dreams as they speak to a present written by em— they speak to a present written by emaaea— they speak to a present written by our shared responsibility. ama— by our shared responsibility. me they— by our shared responsibility. and they speak— by our shared responsibility. and they speak to a future pemea— and they speak to a future pemea fea— and they speak to a future poised for unlimited shared possibilities— poised for unlimited shared possibilities ._ poised for unlimited shared possibilities . so today, poised for unlimited shared possibilities. so today, i'd take— possibilities. so today, i'd like ee— possibilities. so today, i'd like to reflect— possibilities. so today, i'd like to reflect on the enduring ememam— like to reflect on the enduring ememam ef— like to reflect on the enduring strength of the— like to reflect on the enduring strength of the connections between— strength of the connections between ireland and the united states.— between ireland and the united states. a— between ireland and the united states. a partnership for the ages— states. a partnership for the ages beame— states. a partnership for the ages begins m— states. a partnership for the ages begins in our shared emery— ages begins in our shared history dating— ages begins in our shared history dating back to the very founding— history dating back to the very founding ef— history dating back to the very founding of the— history dating back to the very founding of the united states. me— founding of the united states. the mem— founding of the united states. the irish hearts— founding of the united states. the irish hearts that helped kmaae— the irish hearts that helped made me— the irish hearts that helped kindle the torch of liberty in my eeammy— kindle the torch of liberty in my eeammy ama— kindle the torch of liberty in my country and fire its revolutionary- my country and fire its revolutionary spirit , the irish revolutionary spirit, the irish mead— revolutionary spirit, the irish mead mam — revolutionary spirit, the irish blood from across this island mae— blood from across this island was was— blood from across this island that was willing— blood from across this island that was willing given for my eewmwy-s— that was willing given for my country's independence as the wash— country's independence as the wash mamas— country's independence as the irish hands that— country's independence as the irish hands that laid the foundations— irish hands that laid the foundations of a new kind of fame. — foundations of a new kind of fame. eer— foundations of a new kind of future. for one,— foundations of a new kind of future. for one, from the bottom up ama— future. for one, from the bottom up and me— future. for one, from the bottom up and the middle— future. for one, from the bottom up and the middle out, one built

on up and the middle out, one built em meeaem— up and the middle out, one built on freedom and,— up and the middle out, one built on freedom and, you know, the great— on freedom and, you know, the areas waes— on freedom and, you know, the areas ef— on freedom and, you know, the great waves of immigration that mamm— great waves of immigration that mewam ew— great waves of immigration that brought our ancestors to the united— brought our ancestors to the united states— brought our ancestors to the united states and succeeding aeeaaes— united states and succeeding decades carried— united states and succeeding decades carried millions more msmmem— decades carried millions more irishmen across— decades carried millions more irishmen across the sea. most of mem— irishmen across the sea. most of them amwea— irishmen across the sea. most of them arrived a— irishmen across the sea. most of them arrived a little more than wim— them arrived a little more than with hope— them arrived a little more than with hope m— them arrived a little more than with hope in their— them arrived a little more than with hope in their hearts and strengthened— with hope in their hearts and strengthened their dreams and mammal— strengthened their dreams and beautiful memories of an mam,— beautiful memories of an emerald, green, green isle, a meme— emerald, green, green isle, a home they— emerald, green, green isle, a home they would never fully weave— home they would never fully leave behind— home they would never fully leave behind ._ home they would never fully leave behind . i've never met an leave behind. i've never met an msmmam— leave behind. i've never met an msmmam m— leave behind. i've never met an irishman in america who doesn't amm— irishman in america who doesn't same we— irishman in america who doesn't same we . — irishman in america who doesn't think he . hello— irishman in america who doesn't think he . hello there. - irishman in america who doesn't think he . sm; irishman in america who doesn't think he . saint; think he. hello there. i am michelle dewberry. you've just been watching, listening to joe biden addressing the irish parliament. worry not. we will have all the best bits, all the highlights of his speech bringing that live to you. i also in the next hour, want to talk to you about your house, your car and your food. don't go anywhere. but in the meantime, let's bring ourselves up to speed, shall we, with the goings on with polly middlehurst. and everybody showed up . thanks very everybody showed up. thanks very

much . we can bring you the much. we can bring you the latest news now. and of course, joe biden is currently in the united states in president of the united states, is in the repubuc the united states, is in the republic of ireland, of course, today. and he has been meeting with the irish taoiseach, leo varadkar, and watching a display of gaelic games with young people who have been showing him a demonstration of hurling and just now we have seen a standing ovation inside the irish parliament where there is a joint session and president biden is currently delivering a speech earlier on president biden as he received that warm applause , acknowledged his son, applause, acknowledged his son, hunter and sister valerie biden . owens, who are also there . and . owens, who are also there. and he said how good it was to be back in ireland . well, in other back in ireland. well, in other news today, the chancellor says the outlook for the uk economy is brighter than expected, despite new figures showing there was no growth in the

economy in the month february economy in the month of february . data the office for . data for the office for national statistics shows a 0.4% decrease in gross domestic product from january . the product from january. the services sector fell with the ons blaming strike action by teachers and civil servants. a falling gas and electricity usage due to milder weather was also said to be responsible. but the figures do show gdp grew 0.1% in the three months to february, with jeremy hunt saying the uk set to avoid recession . deputy leader angela recession. deputy leader angela rayner , though, said the rayner, though, said the government had failed to help people. economy people. well, the economy figures that came out today are very devastating. it shows that meawewwey— very devastating. it shows that productivity and _ very devastating. it shows that productivity and the— 1:3 : g it shows that productivity and the growth mig : mg it shows that productivity and the growth in the economy— productivity and the growth in the economy has— productivity and the growth in the economy has been completely flawmea— the economy has been completely flatlined -we've _ the economy has been completely flatlined we've seen that flatlined and we've seen that mem— flatlined and we've seen that from me— flatlined and we've seen that from me we— flatlined and we've seen that from the imf that have said that they—maes- from the imf that have said that whey—mars goingl they don't believe that's going to they don't believe that's going sea—ems- they don't believe that's going me—mms yea. i they don't believe that's going to_this year. so| to get any better this year. so mam— to get any better this year. so that-having— to get any better this year. so that-having an— to get any better this year. so that having an impact on that is having an impact on meme.— that is having an impact on people energy— that is having an impact on people. energy bills are going up, people. energy bills are going am mew— people. energy bills are going up, their mortgages are rents people. energy bills are going up, going �*nortgages are rents people. energy bills are going up, going up,tgages are rents people. energy bills are going up, going up, theirs are rents people. energy bills are going up, going up, their food rents people. energy bills are going up, going up, their food prices are going up, their food prices are going up, their food prices ae-aa— are going up, their food prices ae-aa eme- are going up, their food prices are and the government are going up and the government mave— are going up and the government wave-me— are going up and the government wave-me mem— are going up and the government have to help families, have failed to help families, which— have failed to help families, which-knock- have failed to help families, which-knock on- have failed to help families, which knock on effect on which has a knock on effect on me— which has a knock on effect on the economy— which has a knock on effect on the economy growth. because the economy and growth. because if the economy and growth. because me people— the economy and growth. because me people maven-m— the economy and growth. because if people haven't got money to

seeme— if people haven't got money to spend-mam— if people haven't got money to spend,-that-affect. spend, then that will affect amewm — spend, then that will affect growth -country- spend, then that will affect growth country . spend, then that will affect. growth -country . eight growth in this country. eight sewmg— growth in this country. eight sewmg ama— growth in this country. eight serving and former met police officers have been found guilty officers have been found guilty of gross misconduct over discriminatory and offensive messages they sent on whatsapp . messages they sent on whatsapp. the officers, seven men and one woman, were found to have sent sexist, racist, homophobic and disabled comments in a group chat, including talking about katie price's son, harvey's disability and weight. during the fifth day of the hearing, the fifth day of the hearing, the legal chair described the breach of standards as so serious it justified dismissal . serious it justified dismissal. our national reporter paul hawkins has the latest. all seven men and one all seven men and one woman found gammy— seven men and one woman found guilty em— seven men and one woman found gammy em semama— seven men and one woman found guilty of sending those messages , fema— guilty of sending those messages mama gammy— guilty of sending those messages mama gammy em— guilty of sending those messages , found guilty of gross misconduct- , found guilty of gross misconduct .- , found guilty of gross misconduct. but we're waiting to mea— misconduct. but we're waiting to wear wmemem— misconduct. but we're waiting to hear whether they— misconduct. but we're waiting to hear whether they are to be dismissed— hear whether they are to be dismissed by— hear whether they are to be dismissed by the metropolitan pause,— dismissed by the metropolitan pause, wme, — dismissed by the metropolitan pause, who, am— dismissed by the metropolitan police, who, of course, are game— police, who, of course, are going meage— police, who, of course, are going through this huge process of reassessing_ going through this huge process of reassessing officers for somewa— of reassessing officers for semawem mem— of reassessing officers for conduct not just about their emmmaway— conduct not just about their criminality, but— conduct not just about their criminality, but also about mew— criminality, but also about their wrongdoing. all parts of ms— their wrongdoing. all parts of ms precess— their wrongdoing. all parts of this process to _ their wrongdoing. all parts of this process to try and re—establish- this process to try and re—establish londoners confidence— re—establish londoners confidence and trust in the

metropolitan _ confidence and trust in the metropolitan police . well, metropolitan police. well, ssse— metropolitan police. well, sussex police _ metropolitan police. well, sussex police say the body of a woman has been— sussex police say the body of a woman has been found washed up on woman has been found washed up em eme— woman has been found washed up am the beam— woman has been found washed up on the beach after— woman has been found washed up on the beach after a— woman has been found washed up on the beach after a search epemawem— on the beach after a search epemammem em— on the beach after a search operation on off— on the beach after a search operation on off brighton palace pier operation on off brighton palace mem- — operation on off brighton palace pier. coastguard— operation on off brighton palace pier. gi: f operation on off brighton palace pier . gi: f m: pier. coastguard helicopters and the rnli were involved in the rescue effort , which was rescue effort, which was launched yesterday afternoon after reports of a person being swept into sea. the heavy swept into the sea. the heavy winds of storm noah had made search efforts challenging. our national reporter theo chikomba says police are still trying to identify the body . sussex police identify the body. sussex police say an investor— identify the body. sussex police say an investor taken- : : sussex police say an investor taken into the circumstances— say an investor taken into the circumstances is— say an investor taken into the circumstances is ongoing and farmer— circumstances is ongoing and further updates— circumstances is ongoing and further updates will be provided in further updates will be provided m awe— further updates will be provided in due course.— further updates will be provided in due course. so— further updates will be provided in due course. so far there's seem— in due course. so far there's been me— in due course. so far there's been no formal— in due course. so far there's been no formal identification, but been no formal identification, me me— been no formal identification, but the police— been no formal identification, but the police say investigations are continuing but the police say— investigations are continuing to establish— investigations are continuing to establish that— investigations are continuing to establish that ._ investigations are continuing to establish that . donald trump is establish that. donald trump is currently— establish that. donald trump is currently facing— establish that. donald trump is currently facing questioning in a deposition— currently facing questioning in a deposition in— currently facing questioning in a deposition in new york in a mo— a deposition in new york in a £200 million— a deposition in new york in a £200 million civil fraud mawswm. — £200 million civil fraud lawsuit. the- £200 million civil fraud lawsuit. £200 million civil fraud- lawsuit. the former president is accused of being part of a decade long scheme to manipulate property values and his net worth to obtain loans and tax

benefits. posting on social media, donald trump said he would use the case to show what a great and profitable company he'd built. that comes ahead of the trial itself, which is scheduled to begin in october. and demonstrations have continued today in france on the 12th day of nationwide strikes. hundreds of railway workers gathered at paris's galilean station to protest against president emmanuel macron's plans to increase the pension age by two years to 64. opinion polls show a wide majority of voters still oppose the reforms . and tomorrow, the constitutional council will decide whether or not the law can be applied in france . those can be applied in france. those are your latest news headlines. i'm back in an hour. now back to . michelle thanks . michelle. l thanks for . michelle- . thanks for that, . michelle— . thanks for that, polly. . michelle thanks for that, polly. well, i'm dewberry— thanks for that, polly. well, i'm dewberry-i'm. i'm michelle dewberry and i'm keeping— i'm michelle dewberry and i'm weeping—mam- keeping you company right

meage— keeping you company right through-7:00- keeping you company right through 7:00 tonight through till 7:00 tonight alongside— through till 7:00 tonight alongside me. i've got not one, awe— alongside me. i've got not one, am we— alongside me. i've got not one, am we uw— alongside me. i've got not one, but two uk irish— alongside me. i've got not one, but two uk irish dual citizens , but two uk irish dual citizens, wmem— but two uk irish dual citizens, wmem ms— but two uk irish dual citizens, which as very— but two uk irish dual citizens, which is very fortunate considering— which is very fortunate considering where joe biden is ama— considering where joe biden is and where— considering where joe biden is and where he's— considering where joe biden is and where he's currently be speaking- — and where he's currently be speaking. dawn'sjust and where he's currently be speaking. dawn's just said, michelle,— speaking. dawn's just said, michelle, can— speaking. dawn's just said, michelle, can you stop showing us michelle, can you stop showing as every— michelle, can you stop showing as every single— michelle, can you stop showing us every single move that biden makese— us every single move that biden makese ves— us every single move that biden makese ves m— us every single move that biden makes? yes i can,— us every single move that biden makes? yes i can, actually, aeaase— makes? yes i can, actually, because instead- makes? yes i can, actually, because instead i'll show you me— because instead i'll show you the moves— because instead i'll show you the moves that— because instead i'll show you the moves that these two make. namel— the moves that these two make. oamea weyaam— the moves that these two make. daniel moylan, a— the moves that these two make. daniel moylan, a conservative peer— daniel moylan, a conservative peer m— daniel moylan, a conservative peer is me— daniel moylan, a conservative peer in the house— daniel moylan, a conservative peer in the house of lords, and kevin— peer in the house of lords, and kevin cram— peer in the house of lords, and kevin craig, ceo— peer in the house of lords, and kevin craig, ceo of— kevin craig, ceo of communications. neither of kevin craig, ceo of— communications. neither of them, aesmme— communications. neither of them, despise—me— communications. neither of them, despite _to their- despite me alluding to their eaa— despite me alluding to their dual citizenship. they're mey-me— dual citizenship. they're they're passports. neither they're irish passports. neither of they're irish passports. neither aem-mave— they're irish passports. neither of-have turned - they're irish passports. neither of have turned up with of them have turned up with aemeemaam— of them have turned up with leprechaun outfits anything. leprechaun outfits or anything. i'm leprechaun outfits or anything. m-m —maeea| leprechaun outfits or anything. m-m—maeea -i i'm very disappointed indeed. wear— i'm very disappointed indeed. your thoughts— i'm very disappointed indeed. your thoughts tonight? i want to saw— your thoughts tonight? i want to saw me— your thoughts tonight? i want to saw so yea— your thoughts tonight? i want to talk to you about— your thoughts tonight? i want to talk to you about housing, speememeauy— talk to you about housing, specifically stamp duty as well. is specifically stamp duty as well. ms w— specifically stamp duty as well. ms mm ame— specifically stamp duty as well. ms me time ae— specifically stamp duty as well. is it time to get— specifically stamp duty as well. is it time to get rid of it? and if yae— is it time to get rid of it? and if ye aem— is it time to get rid of it? and me ye get a— is it time to get rid of it? and if you've got a big— is it time to get rid of it? and if you've got a big house, look at if you've got a big house, look a yea.— if you've got a big house, look a yea. oe— if you've got a big house, look as yea. as yea— if you've got a big house, look at you. do you think you should be incentivised_ at you. do you think you should be incentivised that be incentivised to downsize that seala— be incentivised to downsize that seam-anything,— be incentivised to downsize that could anything, couldn't it? could be anything, couldn't it? it could be anything, couldn't it? w-aewma— could be anything, couldn't it? mm-aewma ma- could be anything, couldn't it? it-getting rid of- could be anything, couldn't it? it getting rid of your it could be getting rid of your same— it could be getting rid of your same easy— it could be getting rid of your same way em— it could be getting rid of your stamp duty on your next aaehase— stamp duty on your next- pamehase—payma purchase. it could be paying you,— purchase. it could be paying yealaem-m— purchase. it could be paying yealaem-m-me- purchase. it could be paying you, don't to downsize . you, i don't know, to downsize. wowe— you, i don't know, to downsize. weaaa-ae— you, i don't know, to downsize. weaaa-ae me— you, i don't know, to downsize. would be the share of the would that be the share of the leasing— would that be the share of the housing market— would that be the share of the housing market needs to help people— housing market needs to help people-meme— housing market needs to help

people-meme-me- housing market needs to help people not? to talk to people or not? i want to talk to you— people or not? i want to talk to yea as— people or not? i want to talk to yea as wea— people or not? i want to talk to you as well about— people or not? i want to talk to you as well about cars. the ameaaea— you as well about cars. the dreaded ulez,_ you as well about cars. the dreaded ulez, clean air zones, whatever— dreaded ulez, clean air zones, whatever-called- dreaded ulez, clean air zones, whatever called in your whatever they're called in your meek— whatever they're called in your meek em— whatever they're called in your neck of -woods, _ whatever they're called in your. neck of -woods, -those neck of the woods, because those amnes— neck of the woods, because those things-absolutely— neck of the woods, because those things absolutely everywhere neck of the woods, because those things beisolutely everywhere neck of the woods, because those things beis(court(everywhere neck of the woods, because those things beis(court review nhere neck of the woods, because those things beis(court review ofare . there'll be a court review of sadiq— . there'll be a court review of same kmam-s— . there'll be a court review of sadiq khan's plans here in lemma.— sadiq khan's plans here in london. that'll_ sadiq khan's plans here in london. that'll be interesting to london. that'll be interesting as see— london. that'll be interesting as weak— london. that'll be interesting to see what happens with that. is to see what happens with that. mslwme— to see what happens with that. mslwmer-ase— to see what happens with that. is.time.just kick- to see what happens with that. is time just kick all of is it time we just kick all of mose— is it time we just kick all of those schemes— is it time we just kick all of those schemes out, pack it in wim— those schemes out, pack it in wake-war— those schemes out, pack it in wkm-wam em— those schemes out, pack it in with war on motorists and with your war on motorists and ease.— with your war on motorists and ease. lewe— with your war on motorists and ease. love a— with your war on motorists and food. love a bit— with your war on motorists and food. love a bit of— with your war on motorists and food. love a bit of food. is it me— food. love a bit of food. is it time mae— food. love a bit of food. is it time that the— food. love a bit of food. is it time that the uk— food. love a bit of food. is it time that the uk becomes independent— time that the uk becomes independent with growing our own teete— independent with growing our own team what— independent with growing our own team wmae ae— independent with growing our own food? what do you— independent with growing our own food? what do you make to that? is food? what do you make to that? ms k— food? what do you make to that? ms k eem— food? what do you make to that? is it even possible— food? what do you make to that? is it even possible gb views mat— is it even possible gb views that gbnews.uk_ is it even possible gb views that gbnews.uk is how you get steere— that gbnews.uk is how you get ekaeme we— that gbnews.uk is how you get ekaeme we 0.— that gbnews.uk is how you get older? me or you— that gbnews.uk is how you get older? me or you can tweet me if mat-s— older? me or you can tweet me if mat-s year— older? me or you can tweet me if mat-s yeam thing— older? me or you can tweet me if that's your thing at— older? me or you can tweet me if that's your thing at gb news news— that's your thing at gb news news as— that's your thing at gb news news as we speak. you've just me— news as we speak. you've just seen the opening— news as we speak. you've just seen the opening of that joe attem— seen the opening of that joe biden addressing the irish parliament.— biden addressing the irish parliament. this is the third day— parliament. this is the third day at— parliament. this is the third day at a— parliament. this is the third day of a visit— parliament. this is the third day of a visit to— parliament. this is the third day of a visit to the island of mmekama— day of a visit to the island of mmekama .— day of a visit to the island of ireland . that— day of a visit to the island of ireland . that is,— day of a visit to the island of ireland . that is, you can see ireland. that is, you can see mm— ireland. that is, you can see mm were. — ireland. that is, you can see him there. if— ireland. that is, you can see him there. if you're watching. as— him there. if you're watching. as me— him there. if you're watching. it's the first— him there. if you're watching. it's the first time— him there. if you're watching. it's the first time an address was— it's the first time an address was teem— it's the first time an address has been made— it's the first time an address has been made by an american mestaem— has been made by an american president since— has been made by an american president since 1995, which was , em— president since 1995, which was , of course, clinton— president since 1995, which was , of course, clinton and was , of , of course, clinton and was, of me me— , of course, clinton and was, of course, pre the signing of the ease— course, pre the signing of the ease maay— course, pre the signing of the good friday agreement . what good friday agreement. what a weak— good friday agreement. what a treat mem— good friday agreement. what a treat fem me— good friday agreement. what a treat for me, because i always

say— treat for me, because i always say em— treat for me, because i always say am my— treat for me, because i always say am my skew,— treat for me, because i always say on my show, anyone in mmekama— say on my show, anyone in mmekama ,— say on my show, anyone in ireland , what's— say on my show, anyone in ireland , what's your thoughts on ireland, what's your thoughts on all ireland, what's your thoughts on at at— ireland, what's your thoughts on at et mise— ireland, what's your thoughts on all of this? so— ireland, what's your thoughts on all of this? so what a treat to make— all of this? so what a treat to make yea— all of this? so what a treat to have you both.— all of this? so what a treat to have you both. kevin, i'll start my.— have you both. kevin, i'll start with ya — have you both. kevin, i'll start with ya wear— have you both. kevin, i'll start with you. your thoughts on it an. — with you. your thoughts on it an. weak.— with you. your thoughts on it all. well, it's— with you. your thoughts on it all. well, it's just- with you. your thoughts on it all. lattice giimie with you. your thoughts on it all. lattice e giimie all. well, it's just great to see a president and see a us president and i personally think represents the best united states. best of the united states. coming to briefly the coming over to briefly the united kingdom. and he's enjoying himself now, you know, getting touch with his roots getting in touch with his roots all across the republic of ireland. and i think he's a he's a good character , he's decent, a good character, he's decent, he's honest. and it's great to see him over here. it's been called see him over here. it's been eakkea me— i ”aii; it's been called the homecoming king. and wmem— called the homecoming king. and wmem me— called the homecoming king. and when he started— called the homecoming king. and when he started his speech a memem— when he started his speech a memem age,— when he started his speech a moment ago, he— when he started his speech a moment ago, he basically started by sayma— moment ago, he basically started by sayme ms— moment ago, he basically started by saying it's good— moment ago, he basically started by saying it's good to be home. ama— by saying it's good to be home. ame mem— by saying it's good to be home. me then be— by saying it's good to be home. and then he did— by saying it's good to be home. and then he did go into quite a lot and then he did go into quite a tea at— and then he did go into quite a tea at wamke — and then he did go into quite a lot of waffle about family and teenage. — lot of waffle about family and bemaee. ama— lot of waffle about family and heritage. and he— lot of waffle about family and heritage. and he corrected that game— heritage. and he corrected that game abeae— heritage. and he corrected that gaffe about his— heritage. and he corrected that gaffe about his rugby knowledge made— gaffe about his rugby knowledge made earlier— gaffe about his rugby knowledge made earlier on. _ gaffe about his rugby knowledge made earlier on. daniel, your meaams— made earlier on. daniel, your meaems em— made earlier on. daniel, your thoughts on it— made earlier on. daniel, your thoughts on it all? labile thoughts on it all? well, i think— thoughts on it all? well, i think tbs— thoughts on it all? well, i think it's marvellous for ireland that the united states president has come to visit them andifs president has come to visit them and it's nice for him to have a nice holiday. i think we have to remember that the main purpose

of all of this, of course, is for him to whip up votes back in the united states ahead the the united states ahead of the midterm then his midterm elections. and then his own potential bid for the presidency. he's talking about carrying on well into his 80s doddie when he give him time enoughin doddie when he give him time enough in office to learn the difference between the all blacks and the black and tans. and on. but what worries me and so on. but what worries me about the whole thing has been the way in which he's played into a narrative. and the british government has gone along this that somehow along with this that somehow visiting ireland and visiting northern ireland, if you visit northern ireland, if you visit northern ireland, if you visit northern ireland, it's like visiting part of ireland . well, visiting part of ireland. well, northern ireland isn't part of ireland. northern ireland is part of the united kingdom. it says that in good friday says that in the good friday agreement, if you're serious about sticking up good about sticking up for the good friday joe biden friday agreement, as joe biden says he is and wanting to defend it , it's not just the it, it's not just the institutions like the assembly that you want to see. it's the fact that it says explicitly that northern ireland remains part of the united kingdom for as long as the people in northern ireland want that, and

until they vote otherwise. and so far there is no sign that there is a majority of people in northern ireland who want be northern ireland who want to be part so part of the republic. so inviting all these northern irish politicians down to be president in the to be present in the irish parliament is another example of that. and i don't think we should have gone along with that. so so readily. well, jeffrey donaldson didn't, did going in did he did he end up going in the end? i think it was. i think it was— the end? i think it was. i think it sata— the end? i think it was. i think it was said that— the end? i think it was. i think it was said that he— ti“t:7 i think it was. i think it was said that he didn't attend. — it was said that he didn't attend. t— it was said that he didn't attend. i mean, i think daniel's reading— attend. i mean, i think daniel's meaatma et— attend. i mean, i think daniel's meaatma at ta— attend. i mean, i think daniel's reading of it is,— attend. i mean, i think daniel's reading of it is, in— attend. i mean, i think daniel's reading of it is, in my view, amate— reading of it is, in my view, amatm m— reading of it is, in my view, unfair in terms— reading of it is, in my view, unfair in terms of biden's. he's very— unfair in terms of biden's. he's very steamy— unfair in terms of biden's. he's very clearly understands that wembem— very clearly understands that wembem-bam- very clearly understands that northern-part of. very clearly understands that northern part of the northern ireland is part of the baked— northern ireland is part of the united kingdom.— northern ireland is part of the united kingdom. daniel you amteatate— united kingdom. daniel you articulate clearly the good articulate very clearly the good tvtaay— articulate very clearly the good friday agreement— articulate very clearly the good friday agreement shall friday agreement that shall bam— friday agreement that shall remain part of— friday agreement that shall remain part of the uk until if or remain part of the uk until if at wbem— remain part of the uk until if am when a— remain part of the uk until if or when a majority of people vete— or when a majority of people vote otherwise.— or when a majority of people vote otherwise. and i think meme-s— vote otherwise. and i think there's been— vote otherwise. and i think there's been a— vote otherwise. and i think there's been a lot of stuff said abeat— there's been a lot of stuff said abeat btaem— there's been a lot of stuff said about biden and— there's been a lot of stuff said about biden and his attitude and i about biden and his attitude and t tbtmk— about biden and his attitude and t tbtmk be— about biden and his attitude and i think he made— about biden and his attitude and i think he made some statesmanlike remarks yesterday . bvem— statesmanlike remarks yesterday . bvem avteme— statesmanlike remarks yesterday . even arlene foster said eawtev— . even arlene foster said earlier today— . even arlene foster said earlier today that he was batameea— earlier today that he was balanced in— earlier today that he was balanced in those remarks and the mast— balanced in those remarks and the fact that— balanced in those remarks and the fact that joe _ balanced in those remarks and the fact that joe biden made a

sub— the fact that joe biden made a sub wbeve— the fact that joe biden made a saw were me— the fact that joe biden made a slip where he instead of saying all slip where he instead of saying att btaeks— slip where he instead of saying all blacks, he _ slip where he instead of saying all blacks, he said black and tams— all blacks, he said black and tams meme-s— all blacks, he said black and tans, there's nobody around this tabte— tans, there's nobody around this tabte wbe— tans, there's nobody around this table who hasn't— tans, there's nobody around this table who hasn't got their words wane— table who hasn't got their words wrong, an official— table who hasn't got their words wrong, an official function. i weake— wrong, an official function. i weaka eaess — wrong, an official function. i would guess. t/tiutit“ wrong, an official function. i would guess. / wrong, an official function. i would guess. t/tiutit“ : would guess. yeah. but he does seem to be quite gaffe prone, though, doesn't he? and i think one of the challenges is there's a question mark, if i may be so bold over his edge and at what point your edge becomes is a restriction or a barrier to you continuing in politics, if at all. so i think when you are kind of making such and such kind of making such and such kind of making such and such kind of gaffes , whether it's kind of gaffes, whether it's falling down stairs, getting things wrong or whatever it is, it does make people then put that spotlight on you a little bit more. yeah. is that or bit more. yeah. is that fair or not? well, yeah, you're you're mam— not? well, yeah, you're you're mam te— not? well, yeah, you're you're mama to say— not? well, yeah, you're you're right to say that— “tit7 well, yeah, you're you're right to say that there is a sbetktabt— right to say that there is a sbetktabt em— right to say that there is a spotlight on him. but, you know, joe statem— spotlight on him. but, you know, joe esteem-me— spotlight on him. but, you know, joe biden-the only- spotlight on him. but, you know, joe biden the only democrat joe biden was the only democrat eamataate— joe biden was the only democrat candidate-could- joe biden was the only democrat candidate -could be - candidate that one could be fatty— candidate that one could be tatvty sae— candidate that one could be fairly sure-beat- candidate that one could be fairly sure beat trump. fairly sure would beat trump. ama— fairly sure would beat trump. amalbtayea— fairly sure would beat trump. ame-ptayea a— fairly sure would beat trump. and played a very important and he played a very important me,— and he played a very important mete, m— and he played a very important mete, be my— and he played a very important role, in my humble opinion, in doing— role, in my humble opinion, in tame..— role, in my humble opinion, in doing. ame,— role, in my humble opinion, in doing. ame, yea— role, in my humble opinion, in doing . and, you that's doing so. and, you know, that's the tssae— doing so. and, you know, that's the issue again,— doing so. and, you know, that's the issue again, because god , the issue again, because god, tbts— the issue again, because god, tbts ts— the issue again, because god, tbts ts going— the issue again, because god, tbts ts going te— the issue again, because god, this is going to divide opinion so mast.— this is going to divide opinion so maeb. bat— this is going to divide opinion so much. but there are many beebte— so much. but there are many estate was— so much. but there are many beebte wbe tast— so much. but there are many people who just at all costs

aem-t— people who just at all costs aem-t vam— people who just at all costs don't want to _ people who just at all costs don't want to see donald trump bask— don't want to see donald trump back-president— don't want to see donald trump back-president of— don't want to see donald trump back president of the united back as president of the united states.— back as president of the united states-sam- back as president of the united states.-such time- states. and until such time meme-s— states. and until such time there's—that. states. and until such time. there's—that looks there's a candidate that looks ttke— there's a candidate that looks ttke-beat— there's a candidate that looks like-beat him- there's a candidate that looks like beat him more like they can beat him more than btaem— biden, then he'll get reselected. - biden, then he'll get. reselected.-would biden, then he'll get- reselected.-would that reselected. why would that divide opinion? i think divide opinion? because i think anyone that that is anyone would agree that that is the situation that anyone so many do anything to many people would do anything to get donald trump. i don't get rid of donald trump. i don't think that's controversial. i think that's controversial. i think fact that that is the think the fact that that is the case would divide opinion. i think that very wrong. think that that's very wrong. actually, thoughts on this, actually, your thoughts on this, but what you think about this but what do you think about this whole well? lots of whole age thing as well? lots of talk whether or it's talk about whether or not it's time know, 80 or off time now, you know, 80 or off you go kind of thing? well, i've never rated joe— you go kind of thing? well, i've never rated joe biden- you go kind of thing? well, i've never rated joe biden my,- git “t: g“t7 well, i've never rated joe biden my, my best— never rated joe biden my, my first encounter— never rated joe biden my, my first encounter with joe biden on first encounter with joe biden am the— first encounter with joe biden am the tetty. — first encounter with joe biden on the telly. i've— first encounter with joe biden on the telly. i've never met him of on the telly. i've never met him at was— on the telly. i've never met him of course. was was— on the telly. i've never met him of course. was was when he bkaetamsea— of course. was was when he plagiarised part— of course. was was when he plagiarised part one of neil ktmmeek— plagiarised part one of neil kinnock best— plagiarised part one of neil kinnock best speeches is this is going— kinnock best speeches is this is going bask— kinnock best speeches is this is going bask 25— kinnock best speeches is this is going back 25 years brilliant sbeeeb. — going back 25 years brilliant speeem wett— going back 25 years brilliant speech. neil kinnock had made ama— speech. neil kinnock had made and mate— speech. neil kinnock had made and made brilliantly and biden wama— and made brilliantly and biden wama amy— and made brilliantly and biden nana only copied— and made brilliantly and biden nana only copied it without atbtbattme— nana only copied it without attributing it,— nana only copied it without attributing it, but but actually screwed— attributing it, but but actually sevewea b— attributing it, but but actually sevewea tt ab— attributing it, but but actually screwed it up and made it sound batma— screwed it up and made it sound bevtme ama— screwed it up and made it sound boring and dull—

screwed it up and made it sound boring and dull as— screwed it up and made it sound boring and dull as well, which was even more— boring and dull as well, which was even more unforgivable. and mem— was even more unforgivable. and tbem be— was even more unforgivable. and then he vanished— was even more unforgivable. and then he vanished from my consciousness.— then he vanished from my consciousness. i thought, that's mat-s— consciousness. i thought, that's was enough— consciousness. i thought, that's that's enough to— consciousness. i thought, that's that's enough to kill anybody's meaatattem— that's enough to kill anybody's reputation,_thing| reputation, isn't it? next thing i reputation, isn't it? next thing t knew,— reputation, isn't it? next thing t knew-ab— reputation, isn't it? next thing t knew-ab .- reputation, isn't it? next thing i know,-up . he's- reputation, isn't it? next thing i know, up . he's vice i know, he pops up. he's vice mestaemt— i know, he pops up. he's vice president-united- i know, he pops up. he's vice president united states president of the united states before.— president of the united states before-yea— president of the united states before.-you know- president of the united states before. you know where before. i know you know where you— before. i know you know where yea — before. i know you know where yea we-s— before. i know you know where you are. he's running for the emesteemey— you are. he's running for the presidency and— you are. he's running for the presidency and he wins it. so as far presidency and he wins it. so as tam as— presidency and he wins it. so as far as-concerned,_ presidency and he wins it. so as far as concerned, he's a man far as i'm concerned, he's a man we— far as i'm concerned, he's a man wbe seamed— far as i'm concerned, he's a man who started badly— far as i'm concerned, he's a man who started badly has risen who started badly and has risen wttbeat— who started badly and has risen without trace.— who started badly and has risen without trace. i— who started badly and has risen without trace. i haven't really seen-redeeming- without trace. i haven't really seen redeeming features in seen any redeeming features in mm— seen any redeeming features in btm .— seen any redeeming features in btm . vea— seen any redeeming features in btm . vea kmew— seen any redeeming features in him . you know, what we've seen him. you know, what we've seen of him. you know, what we've seen em ms— him. you know, what we've seen em bts temetem— him. you know, what we've seen of his foreign policy has been very— of his foreign policy has been very eeewy— of his foreign policy has been very poorly executed . the very poorly executed. the withdrawal— very poorly executed. the withdrawal from afghanistan for week— withdrawal from afghanistan for wbteb be-s— withdrawal from afghanistan for which he's now— withdrawal from afghanistan for which he's now trying to blame bemate— which he's now trying to blame bemate-.— which he's now trying to blame donald-. there- which he's now trying to blame donald-. there are- donald trump. there are eaesttems— donald trump. there are questions about his probity as wet,— questions about his probity as wetb ev— questions about his probity as wetb em at— questions about his probity as well, or at least— questions about his probity as well, or at least his family's emebtty— well, or at least his family's emebtey. ame— well, or at least his family's probity. and so— well, or at least his family's probity. and so on, which aren't betwe— probity. and so on, which aren't being properly_ probity. and so on, which aren't being properly aired. but i eem-t— being properly aired. but i eem-t see— being properly aired. but i don't see that— being properly aired. but i don't see that he's actually aebtevee— don't see that he's actually achieved anything much. achieved anything very much. and now achieved anything very much. and mew-ems— achieved anything very much. and mew-ems bage- now you have this huge protectionist— now you have this huge protectionist ,- now you have this huge protectionist , so—called protectionist, so—called tmtattem— protectionist, so—called inflation reduction act, which is inflation reduction act, which ts a— inflation reduction act, which ts a masstve— inflation reduction act, which is a massive promotion of net bat— is a massive promotion of net bat tt-s— is a massive promotion of net zero, but it's also— is a massive promotion of net zero, but it's also designed to eat— zero, but it's also designed to eat em— zero, but it's also designed to cut off world _ zero, but it's also designed to cut off world trade and make it bate— cut off world trade and make it bate tem— cut off world trade and make it hard for even— cut off world trade and make it hard for even the— cut off world trade and make it hard for even the european umem — hard for even the european umem wts— hard for even the european union. his friends in the bavebeam— union. his friends in the european union and in ireland. web,— european union and in ireland. wetb eme— european union and in ireland. well, the trade— european union and in ireland. well, the trade with the united states— well, the trade with the united states ,— well, the trade with the united states , t— well, the trade with the united states , i suppose—

well, the trade with the united states , i suppose the states, i suppose the alternative- states, i suppose the alternative view to that eetmtem— alternative view to that opinion, daniel, is that joe bteem-s— opinion, daniel, is that joe bttem-s bat— opinion, daniel, is that joe biden's had a— opinion, daniel, is that joe biden's had a very distinguished career in politics. _ biden's had a very distinguished career in politics. “tit: career in politics. yes, he was away— career in politics. yes, he was a very good vice president. he's currently leading the states in making huge investments into their infrastructure, their job creation programs, and his integrity . i creation programs, and his integrity. i mean, creation programs, and his integrity . i mean, there's integrity. i mean, there's plenty of light being shed on on these issues about him and i think his his son, hunter. but compared to the character of donald trump, well, this the donald trump, well, this is the point. like the point. joe biden is like the angel gabriel, what you liked, what you basically like about about joe biden is not that he has had a distinguished career and you basically like him. you said it yourself, he's not bematt— said it yourself, he's not donald trump. \tit e said it yourself, he's not donald trump. \ttit e donald trump. no, i like he's a he's a good man. he's amazing man. really good guy. all that can be said. no,— man. really good guy. all that can be said. no, no,— man. really good guy. all that can be said. no, no, no,- t 3: gig all that can be said. no, no, no, no. tet— can be said. no, no, no, no. tet seme— can be said. no, no, no, no. tet tet— can be said. no, no, no, no. for some for some.- can be said. no, no, no, no. for some for some. well,- can be said. no, no, no, no. for some for some. well, i think he's a good president, you know. do you? yeah, i do think he's a good president. i think he's a unifying figure. i think america is not a unifying figure. is a he's not a unifying figure. i think america is a very divided . and which divided country. and which eeamtvy— divided country. and which eeamtty tset— divided country. and which country isn't,-canl divided country. and which. country isn't,-can you country isn't, though? can you mame—tbat-s- country isn't, though? can you. name _that's actually name any country that's actually very— name any country that's actually very-anteate— name any country that's actually

very-united?-are. name any country that's actuallyj very-united?-are we very happily united? we are we are very happily united? we are we ate-awest— very happily united? we are we are divided than the united are less divided than the united states in this country . do you states in this country. do you agree with that— states in this country. do you agree with that ? _ states in this country. do you agree with that ? erm, i'm not agree with that? erm, i'm not sure i'm not sure i like your optimism. i would like it to be right. i'm not quite sure that it is though. your thoughts at home? i've been a bit harsh, maybe being a bit negative. what do you think about his points yesterday when was talking yesterday when he was talking about getting about stormont and getting basically that up and running again? was diplomatic again? he was very diplomatic and saying, you know, ultimately it's up to you to of it's up to you guys to kind of figure out. but he wasn't figure it out. but he wasn't subtle his kind desire to subtle in his kind of desire to see that up and running again. your thoughts? i think your thoughts? well i, i think he as diplomatic in what he he was as diplomatic in what he said. no objection to what he sat— said. no objection to what he sat yestemeay— said. no objection to what he said yesterday ._ t: no objection to what he said yesterday . but what he said yesterday. but what he ettm-t— said yesterday. but what he tttm-t say— said yesterday. but what he didn't say was— said yesterday. but what he didn't say was to inquire why is it didn't say was to inquire why is tt tbat— didn't say was to inquire why is it that stormont— didn't say was to inquire why is it that stormont isn't up and running— it that stormont isn't up and vammtme e— it that stormont isn't up and running ewby— it that stormont isn't up and running ? why is— it that stormont isn't up and running ? why is it that this running? why is it that this wtmesev— running? why is it that this windsor framework is not aeeeetabte— windsor framework is not acceptable to— windsor framework is not acceptable to a large part of tbe— acceptable to a large part of the community?— acceptable to a large part of the community? why is it right that— the community? why is it right tbat batt— the community? why is it right tbat bat et— the community? why is it right that part of the— the community? why is it right that part of the united kingdom sbeate— that part of the united kingdom sbeatt be— that part of the united kingdom should be living— that part of the united kingdom should be living under the laws of should be living under the laws et a— should be living under the laws et a tevetem— should be living under the laws of a foreign state— should be living under the laws of a foreign state in which the eeebte— of a foreign state in which the eeeete mave— of a foreign state in which the eeeete have me— of a foreign state in which the

people have no say in in making these— people have no say in in making tbese tawse— people have no say in in making those laws? how— people have no say in in making those laws? how acceptable would that those laws? how acceptable would tbat be— those laws? how acceptable would tbat be tt— those laws? how acceptable would tbat be tt we— those laws? how acceptable would that be if we were— those laws? how acceptable would that be if we were to— those laws? how acceptable would that be if we were to suggest testtmee— that be if we were to suggest testtmee tbat— that be if we were to suggest testing? that would be how betawave— testing? that would be how delaware might be run. he used to delaware might be run. he used te represent— delaware might be run. he used to represent delaware in the embed— to represent delaware in the united states— to represent delaware in the united states senate. how about we were suggesting that delaware sbeate— we were suggesting that delaware sbeatelvam— we were suggesting that delaware sbeattlvam by— we were suggesting that delaware should-run by-laws- we were suggesting that delaware should run by laws of the should be run by the laws of the taveeeam— should be run by the laws of the european union— should be run by the laws of the european union ,_ should be run by the laws of the european union , but nobody in european union, but nobody in betawave— european union, but nobody in delaware-have- european union, but nobody in delaware-have a- european union, but nobody in delaware have a vote delaware should have a vote abeat— delaware should have a vote abeat-tbese— delaware should have a vote about-those laws- delaware should have a vote about those laws were . about what those laws were. tbat, — about what those laws were. tbat, et— about what those laws were. that, of course,— about what those laws were. that, of course, would not be aeeeetabte— that, of course, would not be acceptable for— that, of course, would not be acceptable for a— that, of course, would not be acceptable for a moment, and mebety— acceptable for a moment, and mebety-evbeet- acceptable for a moment, and nobody-expect it- acceptable for a moment, and nobody expect it to nobody would expect it to be aeeeetabte. — nobody would expect it to be acceptable. -is- nobody would expect it to be acceptable.-is it- acceptable. so why is it acceptable _ acceptable. so why is it acceptable ,_ acceptable. so why is it acceptable , bill, in the acceptable, bill, to him in the umtee— acceptable, bill, to him in the united kingdom _ acceptable, bill, to him in the united kingdom ? why doesn't he united kingdom? why doesn't he aeevess— united kingdom? why doesn't he address—issues- united kingdom? why doesn't he address—issues and. address the difficult issues and try-understand— address the difficult issues and try understand what people on try to understand what people on the ground— try to understand what people on the emeamt ae— try to understand what people on the ground are saying? can i ask you the ground are saying? can i ask yea a— the ground are saying? can i ask yea a eaesttem— the ground are saying? can i ask you a question then? your party is the conservative and unionist party? yes. why then, if this the framework is so bad, did a majority of conservative and unionist mps vote it through because they want to believe it's the solution because they were told it was a solution and they want to believe it's a solution. it's already clear it met— solution. it's already clear it met a— solution. it's already clear it isn't a solution— solution. it's already clear it isn't a solution and- “tit“ it's already clear it isn't a solution and it hasn't weakest— isn't a solution and it hasn't weaket .— isn't a solution and it hasn't weaket . t— isn't a solution and it hasn't worked . i voted— isn't a solution and it hasn't worked . i voted against it and worked. i voted against it and vebet— worked. i voted against it and vebet teats— worked. i voted against it and

rebel lords as— worked. i voted against it and rebel lords as it— worked. i voted against it and rebel lords as it happens. yeah, but rebel lords as it happens. yeah, bat bat— rebel lords as it happens. yeah, bat bat t— rebel lords as it happens. yeah, but but i think— rebel lords as it happens. yeah, but but i think the majority of tbem — but but i think the majority of tbem ,— but but i think the majority of tbem ,tbey— but but i think the majority of tbem ,tbey tast— but but i think the majority of them , they just want it to be them, they just want it to be tvae. — them, they just want it to be tvae. amt— them, they just want it to be true. and when— them, they just want it to be true. and when the government teta— true. and when the government tete tbem— true. and when the government tete tbem tt— true. and when the government told them it was— true. and when the government told them it was true , they told them it was true, they wanted— told them it was true, they wamtet te — told them it was true, they wanted to believe it and they tast— wanted to believe it and they tast vetet— wanted to believe it and they just voted for— wanted to believe it and they just voted for it.— wanted to believe it and they just voted for it. but of course tbey-tt— just voted for it. but of course tbey-tt ttmt— just voted for it. but of course they'll find-it's— just voted for it. but of course they'll find it's not the they'll find out it's not the answer. and _ they'll find out it's not the answer. and the subject hasn't eeme— answer. and the subject hasn't eeme away— answer. and the subject hasn't eeme away at— answer. and the subject hasn't gone away at and— answer. and the subject hasn't gone away at and i think it was a bat— gone away at and i think it was a bat stay— gone away at and i think it was a bat eay tem— gone away at and i think it was a bad day for the— gone away at and i think it was a bad day for the conservatives tvtv— a bad day for the conservatives tvtv batty.— a bad day for the conservatives tvtv party they— a bad day for the conservatives lviv party. they should have been— lviv party. they should have been -honest- lviv party. they should have been honest about it. e been more honest about it. it was interesting— been more honest about it. it was interesting-well,- been more honest about it. it was interesting well, wasn't was interesting as well, wasn't it? the subject of the it? because the subject of the ukraine came in the ukraine war came up in the speech biden is giving, as speech that biden is giving, as you can see on your screen when he's saying thought he's saying putin thought the world the other way, world would look the other way, it confident that he'd break it was confident that he'd break nato european union, the nato in the european union, the unity of western nations would fracture and the moment fracture and fall at the moment of testing. but he says he was wrong. today, way more united and more determined than ever to defend values that make us strong. what do you think to that? what of my view is rare has been in touch saying that actually he thinks the uk parliament could learn a thing or two from the irish parliament. look, he says or she

says, actually, look at the way that they are conducting themselves . there's no shouting, themselves. there's no shouting, no booing. it's just polite listening. but i think if biden was in the uk parliament, i'm sure people would be politely listening and paying attention . listening and paying attention. i don't think any of the mps would be booing and all the rest of it to you when visiting dignitaries and big, big world leaders come to address the houses commons and lords, my houses of commons and lords, my and daniel will have been in those. i and daniel will have been in those . i remember my mum went to those. i remember my mum went to one those. i remember my mum went to aetaatty— those. i remember my mum went to aetaatty as— those. i remember my mum went to aetaatty as a— those. i remember my mum went to one actually as a guest— i remember my mum went to one actually as a guest of an mp,— one actually as a guest of an tats saw— one actually as a guest of an tats tbe— one actually as a guest of an mp, saw the pope— one actually as a guest of an mp, saw the pope speak. i think to mp, saw the pope speak. i think te be— mp, saw the pope speak. i think te be tam— mp, saw the pope speak. i think to be fair, our— mp, saw the pope speak. i think to be fair, our parliamentarians are to be fair, our parliamentarians atways— to be fair, our parliamentarians atways very— to be fair, our parliamentarians are always very respectful. bamtet— are always very respectful. bamtet t— are always very respectful. daniel i mean,— are always very respectful. daniel i mean, been daniel i mean, you've been tbese.— daniel i mean, you've been tbeve. team— daniel i mean, you've been there. yeah, course i mean, there. yeah, of course i mean, if there. yeah, of course i mean, tt amybeey— there. yeah, of course i mean, tt amybety was— there. yeah, of course i mean, if anybody was really, really cross-didn't— if anybody was really, really cross didn't want to see the cross and didn't want to see the pope— cross and didn't want to see the eebe ev— cross and didn't want to see the eeee em beav— cross and didn't want to see the eeee em beam tbe— cross and didn't want to see the pope or hear the pope, they weake— pope or hear the pope, they weate tave— pope or hear the pope, they would have not— pope or hear the pope, they would have not turned these would have not turned up. these tbmas— would have not turned up. these ttmas asaatty— would have not turned up. these things usually take place in westminster hall rather than in a chamber. yeah it's a big sort of big room, big hall. people sit on the floor of the hall on chairs , on the floor while the chairs, on the floor while the speaker is up, chairs, on the floor while the speaker is up , the steps the speaker is up, the steps at the top and so on. it looks very top and so on. it all looks very

grand. one of my viewers says, t-ve— grand. one of my viewers says, t-ve tast— grand. one of my viewers says, t-ve tast beem— qty one of my viewers says, i've just been listening gfiifl: one of my viewers says, i've just been listening to g”it“t: one of my viewers says, i've just been listening to talk abeat— i've just been listening to talk abeat tramp.— i've just been listening to talk about trump. the— i've just been listening to talk about trump. the fact is simple. tbe— about trump. the fact is simple. tee-tbe— about trump. the fact is simple. tbe-tbe best- about trump. the fact is simple. the the best president the reason is the best president ever says one views is ever says one of my views is very— ever says one of my views is very stmbte. — ever says one of my views is very stmete. tt-s— ever says one of my views is very simple. it's because he's met— very simple. it's because he's notlpolitician._ very simple. it's because he's not politician. john, is that not a politician. john, is that year—t- not a politician. john, is thatj year—t sbatt your thoughts? right. i shall teave— your thoughts? right. i shall teave-tev— your thoughts? right. i shall leave -for the - your thoughts? right. i shall leave for the moment. take leave biden for the moment. take a task— leave biden for the moment. take a eatek break.— leave biden for the moment. take a quick break. when— leave biden for the moment. take a quick break. when i back a quick break. when i come back to a quick break. when i come back te-t— a quick break. when i come back te-t-te— a quick break. when i come back te-t-te tatk— a quick break. when i come back to-i-to talk about- to you, i want to talk about matters— to you, i want to talk about matters closer— to you, i want to talk about matters closer to- to you, i want to talk about matters closer to home. our beastme— matters closer to home. our housing market.— matters closer to home. our housing market. stamp housing market. firstly, stamp taty— housing market. firstly, stamp eaty. ts— housing market. firstly, stamp eaty. ts tt— housing market. firstly, stamp duty. is it time— housing market. firstly, stamp duty. is it time to— housing market. firstly, stamp duty. is it time to get rid of it? duty. is it time to get rid of tte amt— duty. is it time to get rid of it? and what— duty. is it time to get rid of it? and what about you? lucky for it? and what about you? lucky tea wbe — it? and what about you? lucky tea wbe a— it? and what about you? lucky for who own a big— it? and what about you? lucky for who own a big property sbeatt— for who own a big property sbeatt we— for who own a big property sbeate we pay— for who own a big property should we pay you to downsize ? should we pay you to downsize? weake— should we pay you to downsize? weate tbat— should we pay you to downsize? weate tbat aet— should we pay you to downsize? would that get you moving to ewe— would that get you moving to etve tbe— would that get you moving to give the youngsters a bit of a tame— give the youngsters a bit of a meme ab— give the youngsters a bit of a name at eate— give the youngsters a bit of a hand up onto the— give the youngsters a bit of a hand up onto the property ladder or hand up onto the property ladder em mete— hand up onto the property ladder em mete see— hand up onto the property ladder em mete see yea— hand up onto the property ladder or not? see you ._

at. home hello at. home- . hello there. at. heme- . hello there. i'm at. meme— - hello there. i'm michelle bewbemy— . hello there. i'm michelle dewberry keeping— dewberry keeping you company mett— dewberry keeping you company meat—tabo- dewberry keeping you company right 7:00 tonight. right through till 7:00 tonight. bamtet— right through till 7:00 tonight. bamtet-a— right through till 7:00 tonight. daniel a conservative daniel moylan, a conservative beet— daniel moylan, a conservative beet m— daniel moylan, a conservative beet tm tbe— daniel moylan, a conservative peer in the house— daniel moylan, a conservative peer in the house of lords, keeps—as- peer in the house of lords,| keeps—as does peer in the house of lords,- keeps_as does kevin keeps me company, as does kevin geige— keeps me company, as does kevin crate-sto— keeps me company, as does kevin crate-ebb et— keeps me company, as does kevin craig, ceo of palomar craig, the ceo of palomar communications. moylan

craig, the ceo of palomar- communications.-moylan . communications. rebel moylan. you communications. rebel moylan. vea ewe— communications. rebel moylan. veaweetast— communications. rebel moylan. you were just calling him in the break. — you were just calling him in the break. _impressed. break. you're quite impressed wttb— break. you're quite impressed with—moment.- break. you're quite impressed with—moment. . break. you're quite impressed. with—moment. well, with him at the moment. well, t-ve— with him at the moment. well, t-ve-kmew.— with him at the moment. well, i've - know, i stuck - with him at the moment. well, i've - know, i stuck to - with him at the moment. well, i've-know,.stuck to his. i've you know, he stuck to his principles voted against principles and voted against the windsor which he windsor agreement, which he doesn't believe in, house doesn't believe in, in the house of lords. puts the hours of lords. he puts the hours in. and though don't like his and even though i don't like his politics, think takes politics, i think he he takes the institution seriously the institution very seriously and money where his and he put his money where his mouth is. that's what you want. i mouth is. that's what you want. t meve— mouth is. that's what you want. t want— mouth is. that's what you want. i never want respectful- i never want respectful disagreement. that's what this eeamtvy— disagreement. that's what this eeamtvy-meve— disagreement. that's what this country more that's country needs more of. that's what— country needs more of. that's wbat t— country needs more of. that's wbat t say. — country needs more of. that's what i say-talk- country needs more of. that's what i say. talk housing, what i say. let's talk housing, smatt— what i say. let's talk housing, sbatt-tt— what i say. let's talk housing, shall-it back- shall we? bring it back to matters— shall we? bring it back to matters here— shall we? bring it back to matters here the uk . now we matters here in the uk. now we all matters here in the uk. now we att-eem-t— matters here in the uk. now we att-tem-t we— matters here in the uk. now we all don't we, kirstie all know don't we, kirstie kttseee— all know don't we, kirstie kttseee-ts- all know don't we, kirstie kttseee-ts al all know don't we, kirstie allsopp-is a bitj all know don't we, kirstie. allsopp-is a bit of all know don't we, kirstie- allsopp-is a bit of a allsopp well, she is a bit of a property— allsopp well, she is a bit of a property gurus— allsopp well, she is a bit of a property guru, isn't she? she's been— property guru, isn't she? she's been-ab— property guru, isn't she? she's beem-ab wttb- property guru, isn't she? she's been up with some been coming up with some saeeesttems— been coming up with some suggestions—wei been coming up with some. suggestions—we can been coming up with some- suggestions_we can do suggestions as to what we can do to suggestions as to what we can do te tmteet— suggestions as to what we can do te tmteet a— suggestions as to what we can do te tmteet a btt— suggestions as to what we can do to inject a bit energy, if to inject a bit of energy, if you— to inject a bit of energy, if yea weake— to inject a bit of energy, if you would like,- to inject a bit of energy, if you would like, into the housing market.— you would like, into the housing market. tets— you would like, into the housing market. lots of— you would like, into the housing market. lots of problems and i eem-t— market. lots of problems and i beat tbtmk— market. lots of problems and i don't think it's— market. lots of problems and i don't think it's going to be one easy— don't think it's going to be one easy setattem. — don't think it's going to be one easy solution. what about easy solution. but what about tbtse— easy solution. but what about tbtse-yea— easy solution. but what about tbtse-yea-et- easy solution. but what about this? you of those lucky this? are you one of those lucky tetk— this? are you one of those lucky tetk tbat— this? are you one of those lucky folk that earn— this? are you one of those lucky folk that earn a— this? are you one of those lucky folk that earn a bigger property?_ folk that earn a bigger prbperty? i_ folk that earn a bigger property? i know. you property? i don't know. you meet— property? i don't know. you mtebt-yeav- property? i don't know. you might-your youri property? i don't know. you. might-your your kids might have had your your kids tbese.— might have had your your kids tbese—tave- might have had your your kids. there._have-the there. they might have flown the nest— there. they might have flown the nest-yea— there. they might have flown the nest-you think,- there. they might have flown the nest you think, well, nest now. and you think, well, why— nest now. and you think, well, why sbeatt— nest now. and you think, well, why sbeatt t— nest now. and you think, well, why should i move? what about if you why should i move? what about if yea ewe— why should i move? what about if you were incentivised? don't why should i move? what about if you wtperhapsttivised? don't why should i move? what about if you wt perhaps you ed? don't why should i move? what about if you wt perhaps you could don't why should i move? what about if you wt perhaps you could gett know. perhaps you could get a payment.— know. perhaps you could get a payment. perhaps you could even get-et— payment. perhaps you could even get-em stame- payment. perhaps you could even get-em stamp eatyl payment. perhaps you could even

get of stamp duty. so get a removal of stamp duty. so i get a removal of stamp duty. so t eem-t— get a removal of stamp duty. so t eem-t-tt— get a removal of stamp duty. so i don't-if you're- i don't know if you're downsized. - i don't know if you're downsized. wouldn't i don't know if you're downsized.-wouldn't to downsized. you wouldn't have to pay downsized. you wouldn't have to pay-temabs— downsized. you wouldn't have toi bay-temabs—eet pay any. perhaps, would that get you pay any. perhaps, would that get yea-weake— pay any. perhaps, would that get you-would that- pay any. perhaps, would that get you would that make you you moving? would that make you sit you moving? would that make you stt tbese— you moving? would that make you stt tbeve ame— you moving? would that make you sit there and think,— you moving? would that make you sit there and think, yes, i smatt— sit there and think, yes, i shall move— sit there and think, yes, i shall move then free up the better— shall move then free up the bigger properties for somebody etse—meees- bigger properties for somebody else—needs them.i else that maybe needs them. bamtet— else that maybe needs them. daniel_idea?l daniel is that a good idea? is tbat— daniel is that a good idea? is tbat-te— daniel is that a good idea? is tbat-teltbe- daniel is that a good idea? is that to the housing that going to fix the housing woes-country?- that going to fix the housing woes-country? - that going to fix the housing woes country? lattice that going to fix the housing- woes-country? well, it's woes of this country? well, it's btttttamt— woes of this country? well, it's brilliant idea, but the way to do is to cut stamp duty back do it is to cut stamp duty back to where it was before george osborne put it up. so that it's a very modest levy. it was a very modest levy on a transaction option in a house, and it was the same percentage on the value of the house, however big it was . and he however big it was. and he whacked it up so that on the bigger houses you can be paying as much as nearly on on a on as much as 12, nearly on on a on as much as 12, nearly on on a on a big house. now, who is going to do that unless you're actually dead? unless you actually dead? unless you actually have choice about actually have no choice about moving. they're taking you out in a coffin. and who going to in a coffin. and who is going to volunteer to pay 12% on the value of the house to george osborne or his successors as a result of doing that. so, of course, people don't sell the big houses. don't downsize big houses. they don't downsize . people can't up, develop

. people can't move up, develop heirs who might turn big houses into a number of flats , don't into a number of flats, don't get hold of them . and so it is get hold of them. and so it is having real damage on the market. but the way to fix it is to cut it back to where it was before, not to have some another government steer or fiddling with the tax system, making it more complicated to encourage some people to sell but penalise these others. all this nonsense , simplifying the taxes, getting back to where we were before, that's what needs to be done with stamp duty . do you agree, with stamp duty. do you agree, kevtme— with stamp duty. do you agree, kevtme t— with stamp duty. do you agree, kevtme t eem-t— with stamp duty. do you agree, kevin? i don't totally- 6.th do you agree, kevin? i don't totally agree, amt— kevin? i don't totally agree, amt t-tt— kevin? i don't totally agree, and i'll tell— kevin? i don't totally agree, and i'll tell you— kevin? i don't totally agree, and i'll tell you why. stamp amy— and i'll tell you why. stamp duty t— and i'll tell you why. stamp duty t mem— and i'll tell you why. stamp duty. i mean, if the end effect of any reform is that the government receives more receipts than it currently does, then that that that will be great. so this isn't too much . great. so this isn't too much. if i could just finish because my view is different to yours. dan i think the more money we raise for public services and make this country great again, the better. stamp duty is roughly £14 billion a year. when

i last looked and the challenge with kirsty allsop's proposals is that 52% of all property transactions relate to properties worth less than £250,000. so the actual number of people living in these big houses , i'm not sure it will. it houses, i'm not sure it will. it will do the job. i think the bigger challenge is that governments of all political colours have successively failed to build on the scale that we need as a nation. and that's that's more interesting. if some if that could be cracked, then that will be very popular in terms of electoral results come back. danieli terms of electoral results come back. daniel i just want to say tbat— back. daniel i just want to say tbat t— back. daniel i just want to say tbat t meat— back. daniel i just want to say that i cannot see— i daniel i just want to say that i cannot see why it is that eeebte— that i cannot see why it is that eeeete ttke— that i cannot see why it is that people like kevin— that i cannot see why it is that people like kevin think that etvtme— people like kevin think that giving me— people like kevin think that giving more money to the most tmetttetemt— giving more money to the most inefficient organisation, that seemttme— inefficient organisation, that spending money that exists, wbteb— spending money that exists, wbteb ts— spending money that exists, which is the— spending money that exists, which is the government is a 90°d_ which is the government is a get way— which is the government is a get way et— which is the government is a good way of dealing with our mattemat— good way of dealing with our national wealth. the people who spend money efficiently and well on things they need are ordinary

people, you and me, with the money in our pockets, you give it to the government. you know how much of it is going to be, you know, huge amounts of it are going to be wasted. why would you want to be giving more money to the government? don't need to the government? don't we need to the government? don't we need to back how much the to cut back how much the government is spending? they're already spending nearly 50% of national income. that's unsustainable. if it carries on at that rate, we're going to be like france, where, you know, people fighting in the people are out fighting in the streets because the government is oppressive , let alone like is so oppressive, let alone like the soviet union, which is where we're headed on kevin's track. well, and that's where keir starmer is taking no, no socialist economy. some of what yave — socialist economy. some of what yave tast— socialist economy. some of what yave tast sate— socialist economy. some of what you've just said that— i i some of what you've just said that we're beattme— you've just said that we're heading towards the soviet ttmtem — heading towards the soviet ttmtem -eatte- union. i think is quite tttevatty— union. i think is quite literally incredible . and what literally incredible. and what i saytme— literally incredible. and what i saytme ts— literally incredible. and what i was saying is that i'm all in tava— was saying is that i'm all in tava et— was saying is that i'm all in favour of people— was saying is that i'm all in favour of people having as much of favour of people having as much et tbem— favour of people having as much et tbetv ewm— favour of people having as much of their own money— favour of people having as much of their own money as possible. t-m — of their own money as possible. t-m am— of their own money as possible. i'm an entrepreneur, okay? no maxtmtstme— i'm an entrepreneur, okay? no mavtmtstme tt— i'm an entrepreneur, okay? no maximising it because people ttke— maximising it because people ttke te— maximising it because people ttke te seeme— maximising it because people like to spend their own money. they— like to spend their own money. tbey eem-t— like to spend their own money. they don't want— like to spend their own money. they don't want the government taktme — they don't want the government taking decisions— they don't want the government taking decisions for them. wewevea tt— taking decisions for them. however, if you around this

however, if you look around this eeamtty— however, if you look around this eeamtty .— however, if you look around this eeamtty . tbese-s— however, if you look around this country , there's a— however, if you look around this country , there's a lot of things country, there's a lot of things bvekem— country, there's a lot of things broken schools,— country, there's a lot of things broken schools, hospitals, country, there's a lot of things brokenservices hospitals, country, there's a lot of things broken services ,�*iospitals, country, there's a lot of things broken services , thetitals, country, there's a lot of things broken services , the public public services, the public meam-t — public services, the public meam-t we— public services, the public realm. we are— public services, the public realm. we are in a mess. i would eemtemt— realm. we are in a mess. i would eemteme .— realm. we are in a mess. i would eemteme . ame— realm. we are in a mess. i would contend , and the— realm. we are in a mess. i would contend , and the government and contend, and the government and year— contend, and the government and year meb— contend, and the government and year meb. tve— contend, and the government and your mob, i've been— contend, and the government and your mob, i've been in charge for your mob, i've been in charge tea ts— your mob, i've been in charge tea b yeas— your mob, i've been in charge tea ts yeas t— your mob, i've been in charge for 13 years. i know you've vetet— for 13 years. i know you've voted against— for 13 years. i know you've voted against them recently, but you voted against them recently, but yea ae— voted against them recently, but you are responsible collectively for you are responsible collectively tea tbe— you are responsible collectively tea the state— you are responsible collectively for the state of— you are responsible collectively for the state of our nation. so wbat— for the state of our nation. so wbat weake— for the state of our nation. so what would labour do with stamp taty— what would labour do with stamp taty tbem— what would labour do with stamp duty then? well,— what would labour do with stamp duty then? well, put up stamp taty— duty then? well, put up stamp eaty. were— duty then? well, put up stamp duty. we're talking about the tast— duty. we're talking about the test tbat— duty. we're talking about the test tbat a— duty. we're talking about the fact that a property presenter bas— fact that a property presenter bas tteatee— fact that a property presenter has floated a— fact that a property presenter has floated a as— fact that a property presenter has floated a as put a kite up tate— has floated a as put a kite up tmte tbe— has floated a as put a kite up tmte the sky— has floated a as put a kite up into the sky with— has floated a as put a kite up into the sky with an idea that see— into the sky with an idea that sbe tbtmks— into the sky with an idea that she thinks what— into the sky with an idea that she thinks what labour are eemmttttme— she thinks what labour are committing to— she thinks what labour are committing to do is actually eatttme— committing to do is actually putting investment into the beam— putting investment into the health service— putting investment into the health service schools. the peace— health service schools. the peace .— health service schools. the eettee . tbe— health service schools. the police , the specific proposals police, the specific proposals or police, the specific proposals ev tbese— police, the specific proposals or those plans— police, the specific proposals or those plans haven't come tevwavt— or those plans haven't come tevwave yet— or those plans haven't come forward yet because there are stttt— forward yet because there are stttt tbe— forward yet because there are still the manifestos, still antea— still the manifestos, still under development. but what what keir under development. but what what ketv steamer— under development. but what what keir starmer does— under development. but what what keir starmer does know is that eevemmemts— keir starmer does know is that governments are— keir starmer does know is that governments are labour and tory bavem-t— governments are labour and tory bavem-t batt— governments are labour and tory haven't built enough homes and i tbtmk— haven't built enough homes and i tbtmk yea-tt— haven't built enough homes and i think you'll see— haven't built enough homes and i think you'll see that change. so think you'll see that change. so tast— think you'll see that change. so tast te— think you'll see that change. se tast te give— think you'll see that change. so just to give some- think you'll see that change. so just to give some context here, so stamp duty, that's what we call it here in england. and if you are in scotland and it's

the land and buildings transaction tax, if you're in wales, it is the light. so i was looking at the average size of a property in the uk , it's about property in the uk, it's about 282 90,000 depending on who you believe . so i was a little bit believe. so i was a little bit bored this afternoon, so i did some calculations. if i was going to buy a £300,000 house. so there or thereabouts an average house in the uk. i did some stamp duty calculations , so some stamp duty calculations, so in england i would pay . so i'm in england i would pay. so i'm just doing a basic calculation . just doing a basic calculation. so i'm not a first time buyer. i'm not buying it as a second home and i'm buying it purely as a residential. so if i was in england, i paid £2,500. if i was in scotland, i'd pay £4,600. and if i was in wales , i'd pay if i was in wales, i'd pay £4,500. so if my maths are correct, and i grant you, i did leave school a little while ago, that's about 57% more for under labourin that's about 57% more for under labour in wales. yeah. that's about 57% more for under labour in wales . yeah. okay. labour in wales. yeah. okay. well labour in wales. yeah. okay. wett tm— labour in wales. yeah. okay. wett t-m met— labour in wales. yeah. okay. well i'm not going- labour in wales. yeah. okay. well i'm not going to- “ yeah. okay. well i'm not going to pretend to tave— well i'm not going to pretend to have a— well i'm not going to pretend to have a detailed— well i'm not going to pretend to have a detailed answer to you if i have a detailed answer to you if twas—

have a detailed answer to you if twas webm— have a detailed answer to you if i was welsh, £500,000 house, i veatty— i was welsh, £500,000 house, i veatty was— i was welsh, £500,000 house, i really was bored— i was welsh, £500,000 house, i really was bored doing all these mathematical— really was bored doing all these mathematical stuff. tiit“ really was bored doing all these mathematical stuff. ti.i“ mathematical stuff. i can see where— mathematical stuff. i can see where tats— mathematical stuff. i can see where tbts ts— mathematical stuff. i can see where this is going. this mathematical stuff. i“ git “ti this is not where this is going. this is not going to where this is going. this is not going te eme— where this is going. this is not going to end well. _ where this is going. this is not going to end well. if- where this is going. this is not going to end well. if i- git “ti this is not going to end well. �*7 going to end well. if i was going— going to end well. if i was going te— going to end well. if i was going to buy a £500,000 house in england, i'd pay £12,500. capital gains. scotland 23,350. wales . is 18,000, 18,000, an wales. is 18,000, 18,000, an uplift from england in wales 36, i think again, if my maths can i just make a point. you have to find just make a point. you have to flat tbat— just make a point. you have to flat tbat em— just make a point. you have to find that on top— just make a point. you have to find that on top of— just make a point. you have to find that on top of your- find that on top of your teeestt— find that on top of your deposit. yes.- find that on top of your deposit. yes. and people are stmaeettme— deposit. yes. and people are stmaeettme te— deposit. yes. and people are struggling to make the deposit to struggling to make the deposit te save— struggling to make the deposit te tbe— struggling to make the deposit to save the deposit and then tbey— to save the deposit and then tbey aet— to save the deposit and then tbey eet am— to save the deposit and then they get an extra— to save the deposit and then they get an extra 18,000 or whatever— they get an extra 18,000 or whatever the _ they get an extra 18,000 or whatever the figure is whacked on whatever the figure is whacked em topa— whatever the figure is whacked em tee. wbteb— whatever the figure is whacked on top, which you— whatever the figure is whacked on top, which you can't borrow . on top, which you can't borrow. vea— on top, which you can't borrow. vea eem-t— on top, which you can't borrow. you can't-that— on top, which you can't borrow. you can't that mortgage when you can't put that mortgage when you you can't put that mortgage when yea wbem— you can't put that mortgage when yea wbem yave— you can't put that mortgage when you when you've got something bestttve— you when you've got something bestttve te— you when you've got something eestttve te say— you when you've got something positive to say about the last 13 positive to say about the last b yeas— positive to say about the last ts yeats tm— positive to say about the last 13 years in your— positive to say about the last 13 years in your record of house battttme— 13 years in your record of house building,-know,_ 13 years in your record of house building, know, come at me , building, you know, come at me, judge— building, you know, come at me, wage-ame— building, you know, come at me, judge-and wbat- building, you know, come at me, judge and what keir judge labour and what keir statmet— judge labour and what keir starmer brings— judge labour and what keir starmer brings forward for the meat— starmer brings forward for the meat-te— starmer brings forward for the meat-te teat- starmer brings forward for the next-to deal-the| next election to deal with the beastme — next election to deal with the beastme-tast- next election to deal with the housing -just don't. next election to deal with the. housing -just don't get housing crisis. i just don't get it though, because i think if because for me, i think the housing market this country housing market in this country is it's

is broken, i think it's fundamentally wrong that if you work cannot afford a work hard, you cannot afford a decent place live. and the decent place to live. and the emphasis the word decent emphasis on the word decent because can buy, you because everyone can buy, you know, box in some know, as a shoe box in some places, you these places, you see these days they've one bedroom flat they've got a one bedroom flat and what you've really got actually kitchen a bed actually is a kitchen with a bed in i saw a picture the other in it. i saw a picture the other day marketed as a one bedroom day be marketed as a one bedroom flat and think, are you having a laugh? can i say, michel, it's a teatty— laugh? can i say, michel, it's a teatty eestttve— 37 can i say, michel, it's a really positive proposal that kett— really positive proposal that kett-ts— really positive proposal that kett-ts eetme- really positive proposal that. keir-is going-bring keir starmer is going to bring tetwatt—mektl forward as part of the next eteettem— forward as part of the next election debate, which to election debate, which is to evemaat— election debate, which is to overhaul the— election debate, which is to overhaul the planning system, beaase— overhaul the planning system, because .fact_ overhaul the planning system, because .fact is,- overhaul the planning system, because-fact is, a- overhaul the planning system, because fact is, a lot of because the fact is, a lot of eeebte— because the fact is, a lot of eeeete yea— because the fact is, a lot of people you - raise - because the fact is, a lot of people you raise your eyes. people you can raise your eyes. teta— people you can raise your eyes. teat—seeme- people you can raise your eyes. lord—second. a- people you can raise your eyes. lord—second. a lot| lord moylan, one second. a lot of lord moylan, one second. a lot et—abeat- lord moylan, one second. a lot of_about housing,| of people talk about housing, but of people talk about housing, bat-btams- of people talk about housing, but-plans come- of people talk about housing,- but-plans come forward but when the plans come forward and but when the plans come forward amt-teete— but when the plans come forward amt-tbete ts— but when the plans come forward and-there is it's— but when the plans come forward and-there is it's not- but when the plans come forward and there is it's not the and then there is it's not the meat— and then there is it's not the meat-tet— and then there is it's not the right for housing. we're right place for housing. we're not right place for housing. we're met aeatmst— right place for housing. we're not against.in_ right place for housing. we're not against in principle, not against it in principle, tast— not against it in principle, tast-bete. — not against it in principle, just here. we've got not against it in principle,- just-here. .we've got to just not here. and we've got to get— just not here. and we've got to getlgrip_ just not here. and we've got to eetlettb et— just not here. and we've got to eetlette et tbat— just not here. and we've got to getlgrip of that as- just not here. and we've got to get grip of that as a country, get a grip of that as a country, beaase— get a grip of that as a country, beaase yea— get a grip of that as a country, because you are— get a grip of that as a country, because you are right, michel, it's because you are right, michel, tt-s—tamtttes- it's not normal families and the meat—tbey- next generation of kids, they eem-t— next generation of kids, they eam-t ttve— next generation of kids, they can't live near— next generation of kids, they can't live near their parents. tt-s— can't live near their parents. as weme — can't live near their parents. it's wrong. well— can't live near their parents. it's wrong. well ,- can't live near their parents. it's wrong. lattice titit it's wrong. well, what do you think to those sums by the way, iused think to those sums by the way, i used online stamp duty calculators to calculate them. so hoping they're right. but so i'm hoping they're right. but i so i'm hoping they're right. but t tbtmk— so i'm hoping they're right. but i think actually— so i'm hoping they're right. but i think actually ,_ so i'm hoping they're right. but i think actually , i— so i'm hoping they're right. but i think actually , i think it's

i think actually, i think it's a ttsetaee— i think actually, i think it's a disgrace really— i think actually, i think it's a disgrace really .— i think actually, i think it's a disgrace really . i— i think actually, i think it's a disgrace really . i would abolish disgrace really. i would abolish stame— disgrace really. i would abolish stamp taty— disgrace really. i would abolish stamp eaty. att— disgrace really. i would abolish stamp duty. all together. why sbeatt— stamp duty. all together. why sbeatt yea— stamp duty. all together. why should you have— stamp duty. all together. why should you have to pay an additional— should you have to pay an additional tax— should you have to pay an additional tax on an asset? should you have to pay an additional tax on an asset ? why? additional tax on an asset? why? amt— additional tax on an asset? why? amtlsay— additional tax on an asset? why? andlsay asset— additional tax on an asset? why? andisay asset and— additional tax on an asset? why? andisay asset and i— additional tax on an asset? why? and say asset and i use that and i say asset and i use that wett— and i say asset and i use that wete teesety— and i say asset and i use that word loosely, by— and i say asset and i use that word loosely, by the way, beaase— word loosely, by the way, because what _ word loosely, by the way, because what i- word loosely, by the way, because what i really mean is yeav— because what i really mean is yeat meme.— because what i really mean is your home. give— because what i really mean is your home. give me your tbeaebts. — your home. give me your thoughts. he's- your home. give me your thoughts. he's desperate to come in, thoughts. he's desperate to come im-gbing— thoughts. he's desperate to come tm-eetme-me- in, but i'm going to say no beaase— in, but i'm going to say no because not— in, but i'm going to say no because not just- in, but i'm going to say no because not just housing. i want to because not just housing. i want te—abeat— because not just housing. i want te—abeat t— because not just housing. i want to_about i want- because not just housing. i want to_about i want to. to talk to you about i want to tatk— to talk to you about i want to tatk abeat— to talk to you about i want to talk about your— to talk to you about i want to talk about your car as well. tt-s— talk about your car as well. be met— talk about your car as well. be met t— talk about your car as well. it's not i mean,— talk about your car as well. it's not i mean, if i sit still tene— it's not i mean, if i sit still teme emeaem— it's not i mean, if i sit still teme emeaem t— it's not i mean, if i sit still long enough, i imagine that eeebte— long enough, i imagine that eeeete-be— long enough, i imagine that people be desperate to people will be desperate to try ame— people will be desperate to try amt-me— people will be desperate to try amt-me-mete.- people will be desperate to try and-me-more. i- people will be desperate to try and me more. i don't and tax me even more. i don't kmew— and tax me even more. i don't kmew wbat— and tax me even more. i don't know what you'd— and tax me even more. i don't know what you'd get away with taxtme. — know what you'd get away with taxtme. t— know what you'd get away with taktme. t eem-t— know what you'd get away with taxing. i don't know dress taxing. i don't know my dress a ttttte— taxing. i don't know my dress a ttttte btt— taxing. i don't know my dress a ttttte btt-wy— taxing. i don't know my dress a little bit-my shoes- little bit more. my shoes a ttttte— little bit more. my shoes a little-more.— little bit more. my shoes a little more. everything little bit more. everything tbese— little bit more. everything these-seems- little bit more. everything these seems to be getting these days seems to be getting takea— these days seems to be getting taxet. weat— these days seems to be getting taxed. your car— these days seems to be getting taxed. your car what i want taxed. your car is what i want to taxed. your car is what i want te tetk— taxed. your car is what i want te tatk te— taxed. your car is what i want te tatk te yea— taxed. your car is what i want to talk to you about next. there is to talk to you about next. there tsleme— to talk to you about next. there tslemelwbat— to talk to you about next. there is.end.whatlthink- to talk to you about next. there is end what think is is no end to what i think is tast— is no end to what i think is just basically— is no end to what i think is just basically revenue generation.- just basically revenue - generation-anyone just basically revenue- generation.-anyone dares generation. now, if anyone dares has generation. now, if anyone dares bas set— generation. now, if anyone dares bas set tbe— generation. now, if anyone dares has set the backside in a car for has set the backside in a car tea-steam— has set the backside in a car for-clean air.- has set the backside in a car for-clean air. i- has set the backside in a car for clean air. i want to for ulez clean air. i want to tetk— for ulez clean air. i want to tatk te— for ulez clean air. i want to talk to-about- for ulez clean air. i want to talk to about those schemes talk to you about those schemes in talk to you about those schemes tm .—

hi there. i'm michelle dewberry amt— hi there. i'm michelle dewberry amt tm— hi there. i'm michelle dewberry amt t-m keeetme— hi there. i'm michelle dewberry and i'm keeping you company mett— and i'm keeping you company ttebt tbteaeb— and i'm keeping you company right through till 7:00 tonight atemestte— right through till 7:00 tonight atemestee me— right through till 7:00 tonight alongside me. daniel moylan is the tety— alongside me. daniel moylan is the tety beet— alongside me. daniel moylan is the tety eeet tm— alongside me. daniel moylan is the tory peer in the house of teats— the tory peer in the house of tetts ame— the tory peer in the house of lords and kevin— the tory peer in the house of lords and kevin craig is the ceo of communications— lords and kevin craig is the ceo of communications. lords and kevin craig is the ceo of communications . as ian says, of communications. as ian says, why— of communications. as ian says, wby sbeatt— of communications. as ian says, why should elderly people be based— why should elderly people be based te— why should elderly people be forced to downsize when they've wetket — forced to downsize when they've wetket bate— forced to downsize when they've worked hard to— forced to downsize when they've worked hard to buy their house, my— worked hard to buy their house, emty te— worked hard to buy their house, emty te be— worked hard to buy their house, only to be crammed into a tiny ttttte— only to be crammed into a tiny ttttte sette— only to be crammed into a tiny little cell? no— only to be crammed into a tiny little cell? no one— only to be crammed into a tiny little cell? no one would force tbem — little cell? no one would force tbem tm— little cell? no one would force tbem m. t— little cell? no one would force them in, i think— little cell? no one would force them in, i think incentive kyiv weake— them in, i think incentive kyiv weattltbe— them in, i think incentive kyiv would-the word— them in, i think incentive kyiv would the word rather than would be the word rather than tease— would be the word rather than tetee se— would be the word rather than tetee se tt— would be the word rather than force. so if someone wants to yea mtebt— force. so if someone wants to move, you might get a couple of beb— move, you might get a couple of beb-baek— move, you might get a couple of bob-back pocket- move, you might get a couple of bob-back pocket to- move, you might get a couple of bob back pocket to help bob in your back pocket to help you— bob in your back pocket to help yea te— bob in your back pocket to help yea ee se— bob in your back pocket to help yea ee se.-says.— bob in your back pocket to help you do so, says. but older you do so, rob says. but older eeeete— you do so, rob says. but older eeeete-te— you do so, rob says. but older people-to.more- you do so, rob says. but older people to more attached people tend to be more attached to people tend to be more attached te—beme.— people tend to be more attached te—beme. maybe- people tend to be more attached to home. maybe their to the family home. maybe their seses— to the family home. maybe their seeases-bavtme— to the family home. maybe their spouses having lived there spouses died having lived there .-ebttttem— spouses died having lived there ,-children-grown- spouses died having lived there , children grown up , , their children have grown up, eteeteta— , their children have grown up, eteeteta we— , their children have grown up, etcetera, he says.— , their children have grown up, etcetera, he says. please can we stew— etcetera, he says. please can we sbew a— etcetera, he says. please can we sbew a ttttte— etcetera, he says. please can we show a little bit— etcetera, he says. please can we show a little bit of— etcetera, he says. please can we show a little bit of compassion wbttst— show a little bit of compassion wbttst we— show a little bit of compassion whilst we wait?— show a little bit of compassion whilst we wait? and this is your wease— whilst we wait? and this is your vemets-tet— whilst we wait? and this is your words,-for the- whilst we wait? and this is your words, for the passing words, not mine, for the passing of words, not mine, for the passing et—wbe— words, not mine, for the passing et—wbe beteee- words, not mine, for the passing of_who helped to. of the people who helped to batte— of the people who helped to bake tbts— of the people who helped to build this country. richard yae— build this country. richard ye a— build this country. richard you're a man after my own heart. vea— you're a man after my own heart. vea say.— you're a man after my own heart. vea say. wevet— you're a man after my own heart. you say, never mind— you're a man after my own heart. you say, never mind all this. wbat— you say, never mind all this. wbat abeat— you say, never mind all this. what about inheritance tax? why cam-t— what about inheritance tax? why eam-t we— what about inheritance tax? why eam-t we seab— what about inheritance tax? why can't we scrap it— what about inheritance tax? why can't we scrap it all? oh, i eemetetety— can't we scrap it all? oh, i completely agree. and i'll tell

you— completely agree. and i'll tell yea wbat— completely agree. and i'll tell yea wbat etse— completely agree. and i'll tell you what else i— completely agree. and i'll tell you what else i would scrap as wet.— you what else i would scrap as web. keeetme— you what else i would scrap as well. keeping with your theme, it well. keeping with your theme, tt weake— well. keeping with your theme, tt weate be— well. keeping with your theme, it would be -these - it would be all of these ridiculous— it would be all of these- ridiculous-generation ridiculous revenue generation schemes. -prefer- ridiculous revenue generation schemes. prefer to call schemes. i would prefer to call tbem— schemes. i would prefer to call tbem wbem— schemes. i would prefer to call them when-to- schemes. i would prefer to call them when-to car- them when it comes to car ettvets. — them when it comes to car drivers. there's— them when it comes to car drivers. there's loads of them, tsm-t— drivers. there's loads of them, bat-bew— drivers. there's loads of them, tsm-t-wew. zo- drivers. there's loads of them, isn't- now, 20 mile- isn't there? now, 20 mile an beat— isn't there? now, 20 mile an hour zones, resident only zones, tew— hour zones, resident only zones, tew tatte— hour zones, resident only zones, low traffic neighbourhoods and one low traffic neighbourhoods and tbat— low traffic neighbourhoods and tbat gees— low traffic neighbourhoods and one that goes by— low traffic neighbourhoods and one that goes by different names aetaatty— one that goes by different names aetaatty. bat— one that goes by different names actually, but ulez,_ one that goes by different names actually, but ulez, you might be tamtttat— actually, but ulez, you might be familiar with— actually, but ulez, you might be familiar with clean _ actually, but ulez, you might be familiar with clean air zones, wbatevet— familiar with clean air zones, wbatevet tt-s— familiar with clean air zones, whatever it's called in your neighbourhood,— whatever it's called in your neighbourhood, you might be tbem— neighbourhood, you might be aware then that— neighbourhood, you might be aware then that sadiq khan, he's been— aware then that sadiq khan, he's been eveametme— aware then that sadiq khan, he's been expanding the zone in temeem— been expanding the zone in temtem ame— been expanding the zone in london and now today a high ceatt— london and now today a high ceatt bas— london and now today a high court has ruled— london and now today a high court has ruled that five eeametts— court has ruled that five councils who— court has ruled that five councils who launched a legal battte— councils who launched a legal battle against— councils who launched a legal battle against said expansion of bttz— battle against said expansion of bttz am— battle against said expansion of bttz mave— battle against said expansion of ulez can have their day in seat. — ulez can have their day in seat. tbey-te— ulez can have their day in court. they're basically saying teete— court. they're basically saying tbete was— court. they're basically saying tbete a— court. they're basically saying there was a failure to follow eteeet— there was a failure to follow proper procedures when it comes to proper procedures when it comes te expanding— proper procedures when it comes to expanding and— proper procedures when it comes to expanding and the inclusion of to expanding and the inclusion et vateas— to expanding and the inclusion of various different people in the of various different people in tbe mew— of various different people in the new scrappage scheme. i eaess— the new scrappage scheme. i eaess tt— the new scrappage scheme. i eaess tt yea— the new scrappage scheme. i guess if you like— the new scrappage scheme. i guess if you like , there's a guess if you like, there's a tbat— guess if you like, there's a sense that it's— guess if you like, there's a sense that it's been done to eeeete— sense that it's been done to eeeete as— sense that it's been done to people as opposed to perhaps for eeebte— people as opposed to perhaps for eeeete mamy— people as opposed to perhaps for people many viewers, daniel will teek— people many viewers, daniel will teek at— people many viewers, daniel will teek at tbts— people many viewers, daniel will look at this legal— people many viewers, daniel will look at this legal challenge, mambe— look at this legal challenge, number one. definitely hope it succeeds. and— number one. definitely hope it succeeds. and number two,

eemabs— succeeds. and number two, eemaes be— succeeds. and number two, perhaps be hoping that this is a stem— perhaps be hoping that this is a stem et— perhaps be hoping that this is a stem et tbtmes— perhaps be hoping that this is a sign of things to— perhaps be hoping that this is a sign of things to come and that tbese— sign of things to come and that these schemes— sign of things to come and that these schemes might be done away we — these schemes might be done away wttb-yea— these schemes might be done away with.-you think? - these schemes might be done away with. you think? lattice with. what do you think? well, |, with. what do you think? well, i, i understand— with. what do you think? well, i, i understand why— with. what do you think? well, i, i understand why people hope that. i would say from experience and watching these things over the years, it isn't very often that one public body is successful in bringing charges against another public body. and i happen to know also from experience that the lawyers at tfl who advise both tfl and the mayor are generally very good, so they'll probably have got a lot of these things right. but there's an arguable case and we're going to let the courts decide when they hear the arguments, whether the processes were followed. but even then it wouldn't stop the wouldn't necessarily stop the ulez . it would allow him to go ulez. it would allow him to go back start process, it back and start the process, it would and start him. would delay it and start him. he'd to back and start he'd have to go back and start it and get it right the it again and get it right the second time. so the judicial review isn't a way to just blocking something. it's a way of all comes of making sure it all comes right. fact up and right. but the fact is, up and down country, you go to any down the country, you go to any town in this country now, any

city in this country, and you ask the local authority, do they have target for reducing the have a target for reducing the number of vehicles on the road over next 5 to 10 years? and over the next 5 to 10 years? and they'll yes. and most of they'll say yes. and most of them will we're going to try them will say we're going to try and number of vehicle and reduce the number of vehicle movements about, not movements they talk about, not the cars, say, the number of cars, they say, but vehicle but the number of vehicle movements between 20 and 30. movements by between 20 and 30. what's wrong with that? and they're saying because it's not their it's their their business, it's their business provide roads for business to provide roads for people can afford cars to people who can afford cars to make use of them because they've worked for those cars. and very often need them. it's their job to roads, provide to provide roads, provide highways and maintain them, not not to have a plan to stop people using their cars when they so often need them. and that's what's wrong with that. kevin and it's just bullying because nobody dodi has been asked about this . and if you go asked about this. and if you go to the government and you say, well, what's this policy? everyone's got it. so it must be a government policy somewhere, they it's to do they say, no, it's nothing to do with then you pick up with us. and then you pick up the driver and vehicle standards agencies, vision for 2030 that

came out last week, which of course is a government body and it says exactly that, you know, by by a certain date by 2030 will have reduced all these cars . nobody's been consulted. no nobody's been asked. nobody's been honest with people about this . and that's why you're this. and that's why you're getting a kickback . i'll just getting a kickback. i'll just say one other thing and then and then i want to be very quick. i've always thought the british motorist is actually a very, very will accept almost anything they put up with almost anything until a certain point . and at until a certain point. and at that point they turn and they get really angry. and at that point, the politicians get swept away. and i think we've pushed it now to the point where people are really angry. kevin i mean, the reason i asked you that question, daniel, was because it's not that councils have political persuasions across the country hate cars , right? i love country hate cars, right? i love cars.i country hate cars, right? i love cars. i love driving , i ti.mit”~im ”ti“7 ilove cars. i love driving , right? but cars. i love driving, right? but et— cars. i love driving, right? but some of our bigger cities are etaseew— some of our bigger cities are glasgow, london. they were built for glasgow, london. they were built tet bses— glasgow, london. they were built for horses and— glasgow, london. they were built for horses and pedestrians, mett— for horses and pedestrians, ttebt .— for horses and pedestrians, ttebt . tt— for horses and pedestrians, ttebt . tt we— for horses and pedestrians, right . if we all— for horses and pedestrians, right . if we all want if

right. if we all want if evetybeey— right. if we all want if everybody who could afford a car had everybody who could afford a car bat ee— everybody who could afford a car bat tbe— everybody who could afford a car had one, the whole,— everybody who could afford a car had one, the whole, we would ete— had one, the whole, we would ete yea— had one, the whole, we would enter, you know,— had one, the whole, we would enter, you know, just break down tettttety— enter, you know, just break down tettttety tm— enter, you know, just break down territory in terms— enter, you know, just break down territory in terms of traffic tams— territory in terms of traffic tams ame— territory in terms of traffic jams and stuff.— territory in terms of traffic jams and stuff. what is absolutely— jams and stuff. what is absolutely the case is that a lot absolutely the case is that a tet et— absolutely the case is that a tet et eeeete— absolutely the case is that a lot of people who are already sattettme— lot of people who are already suffering under— lot of people who are already suffering under the cost of name— suffering under the cost of ttvtme ate— suffering under the cost of living are very,— suffering under the cost of living are very, very strongly aeatmst— living are very, very strongly aeatmst tbe— living are very, very strongly against the plans in different teeattems— against the plans in different locations, including the mayor of locations, including the mayor et temtem— locations, including the mayor et temtem .— locations, including the mayor et temtem . te— locations, including the mayor of london , to make it more of london, to make it more ebemstve— of london, to make it more eeemstve te — of london, to make it more expensive to drive higher eettattme— expensive to drive higher polluting vehicles. it is very contentious— polluting vehicles. it is very contentious .— polluting vehicles. it is very contentious . absolutely. there contentious. absolutely. there are contentious. absolutely. there . ame— contentious. absolutely. there . ame t— contentious. absolutely. there are . and i really— contentious. absolutely. there are . and i really do get that. are. and i really do get that. eat— are. and i really do get that. bat tbete— are. and i really do get that. but there are— are. and i really do get that. but there are also many people teseetatety— but there are also many people desperately worried in london abeat— desperately worried in london abeat att— desperately worried in london about air quality— desperately worried in london about air quality pollution who, like about air quality pollution who, ttke tbe— about air quality pollution who, ttke tbe tew— about air quality pollution who, like the low traffic neighbourhood , adds, i would neighbourhood, adds, i would ttke— neighbourhood, adds, i would ttke t— neighbourhood, adds, i would ttke t hope— neighbourhood, adds, i would like i hope that— neighbourhood, adds, i would like i hope that the scheme can be tetetmee— like i hope that the scheme can be tetetmet .— like i hope that the scheme can be reformed , that— like i hope that the scheme can be reformed , that the scrappage be reformed, that the scrappage attewamee— be reformed, that the scrappage allowance ices— be reformed, that the scrappage allowance ices can— be reformed, that the scrappage allowance ices can be increased to allowance ices can be increased te make— allowance ices can be increased te make tt— allowance ices can be increased te make tt me— allowance ices can be increased to make it more palatable to tetks— to make it more palatable to tetks. bat— to make it more palatable to folks. but what— to make it more palatable to folks. but what the mayor, who t-ve — folks. but what the mayor, who t-ve wetket— folks. but what the mayor, who i've worked with— folks. but what the mayor, who i've worked with on stuff in bettttes— i've worked with on stuff in politics before,— i've worked with on stuff in politics before, has said in eseese te— politics before, has said in response to this announcement tbat— response to this announcement tbat be-s— response to this announcement that he's motivated by air eaattty— that he's motivated by air eaattty tm— that he's motivated by air quality in london, not a war aeatmst— quality in london, not a war aeatmst tbe— quality in london, not a war against the motorist. nobody betteves— against the motorist. nobody believes that. _ against the motorist. nobody believes that. \i

against the motorist. nobody believes that. \t2 titit against the motorist. nobody believes that. \ i titit us believes that. nobody. i do. us sette— believes that. nobody. i do. us satte kbam— believes that. nobody. i do. us satte kbam tt— believes that. nobody. i do. us satte kbam tt t— believes that. nobody. i do. us sadiq khan if i can— believes that. nobody. i do. us sadiq khan if i can just- believes that. \ i titit us sadiq khan if i can just finish, eetttme— sadiq khan if i can just finish, we're getting the— sadiq khan if i can just finish, we're getting the barrage. sadiq kbam— we're getting the barrage. sadiq khan passionately believes in bettev— khan passionately believes in bettet att— khan passionately believes in better air quality in london . better air quality in london. amt— better air quality in london. ame wbete— better air quality in london. ame wbete t— better air quality in london. and where i do— better air quality in london. and where i do agree with you is tbat— and where i do agree with you is tbat tt— and where i do agree with you is tbat tt tt-s— and where i do agree with you is tbat tt tt-s se— and where i do agree with you is that if it's so unpopular, he'll tese— that if it's so unpopular, he'll tese tbe— that if it's so unpopular, he'll lose the elections. let me ask you— lose the elections. let me ask you this, then. well, i think one of the challenges, to be fair, though, is that so many people can't be bothered to go out and i think out and vote. and i think actually, this whole car thing might make people turn out and vote a bit more. and vote a little bit more. and you've it from kevin. you've just heard it from kevin. but vote out if you but vote, vote khan out if you want— but vote, vote khan out if you want te— but vote, vote khan out if you want te aet— but vote, vote khan out if you want to get rid— but vote, vote khan out if you want to get rid of— but vote, vote khan out if you want to get rid of the ulez. bat— want to get rid of the ulez. bat tet— want to get rid of the ulez. bat tet me— want to get rid of the ulez. but let me ask— want to get rid of the ulez. but let me ask you- want to get rid of the ulez. but let me ask you this,- want to get rid of the ulez. but let me ask you this, though, right? if he's so passionate and so right? if he's so passionate and se mebte— right? if he's so passionate and se mebte tm— right? if he's so passionate and so noble in his— ” ti“7 if he's so passionate and so noble in his endeavours to steam— so noble in his endeavours to steam ae— so noble in his endeavours to steam at tbe— so noble in his endeavours to clean up the air,— so noble in his endeavours to clean up the air, why does he teat— clean up the air, why does he teat-batty— clean up the air, why does he deal-badly with— clean up the air, why does he deal badly with criticism? deal so badly with criticism? sttttss— deal so badly with criticism? sttttsslbts— deal so badly with criticism? critics his scheme? so like critics of his scheme? so like you— critics of his scheme? so like yea—tbat- critics of his scheme? so like- yea—tbat teebte-s you might remember that people's assembty—was- assembly or whatever it was sattet— assembly or whatever it was called-other— assembly or whatever it was called-other day- assembly or whatever it was called other day he assembly or whatever it was- called-other day-he was called the other day when he was bastsatty— called the other day when he was basically describing the easements— basically describing the opponents far opponents of this scheme as far mebt— opponents of this scheme as far right paraphrasing right nutjobs, i'm paraphrasing a-btt.— right nutjobs, i'm paraphrasing a-btt. bat— right nutjobs, i'm paraphrasing a-bit, but that— right nutjobs, i'm paraphrasing a bit, but that was the a little bit, but that was the east— a little bit, but that was the etst et— a little bit, but that was the etst et tt— a little bit, but that was the gist of it.-would- a little bit, but that was the gist of it. would need gist of it. why would you need to gist of it. why would you need te—wbe- gist of it. why would you need te—wbe eem-t- to insult people who don't aeteee— to insult people who don't aeteee-sam-t- to insult people who don't agree? can't you, if to insult people who don't agree?-can't you, if so agree? why can't you, if you so easstemate— agree? why can't you, if you so passionate and— agree? why can't you, if you so passionate and you're so right mtmeet— passionate and you're so right mtmeet-yea-te— passionate and you're so right minded-you're so,- passionate and you're so right minded you're so, you know,

minded and you're so, you know, bate— minded and you're so, you know, bate-tmtemttem- minded and you're so, you know, pure-intention, why- minded and you're so, you know, pure intention, why not pure in your intention, why not mave— pure in your intention, why not meve-bat— pure in your intention, why not have but respectful have decent but respectful tebatee— have decent but respectful eebatee wby— have decent but respectful debate? why try to smear and aemttmme— debate? why try to smear and undermine and— debate? why try to smear and undermine and silence your sttttsse— undermine and silence your sttttsse — undermine and silence your critics? well— undermine and silence your critics? well ,— undermine and silence your critics? lattice ”ti; ”ti�*7ti”” “ti critics? well, you're referring to a meeting , critics? well, you're referring to a meeting, i think critics? well, you're referring to a meeting , i think famously to a meeting, i think famously a lady walked out and she didn't like the answer that he got. he was with martin lewis, the money saving expert, talking about ulez. experience, ulez. but in my experience, i mean, sadiq khan, you know, i disagreed with him on on a policy. it was about a garden bndge policy. it was about a garden bridge crossing the thames, which daniel build which daniel wanted to build with boris i and with his friend boris and i and i and local councillors were against sadiq against it. and sadiq and i disagreed, but i found that he was civil about it. but i don't think there's room for any sort of anyone. and of smearing of anyone. and i think that's what makes us as a country better than others. do you drive an electric car? i do, yeah. i'm lucky. i'm lucky enough.i yeah. i'm lucky. i'm lucky enough. ithought yeah. i'm lucky. i'm lucky enough. i thought you'd given it up. enough. i thought you'd given it up- — enough. i thought you'd given it as we.— enough. i thought you'd given it at. we. me— enough. i thought you'd given it at. we. t— enough. i thought you'd given it up. no, no. i mean,— enough. i thought you'd given it up. no, no. i mean, i'm- enough. i thought you'd given it up. no, no. i mean, i'm on- enough. i thought you'd given it up. no, no. i mean, i'm on the bike today, know, looking bike today, you know, looking good well, you've got good as ever. well, you've got you've a pushbike. you've come here on a pushbike. no. yeah. no. yeah. in your btke. — no. yeah. no. yeah. in your btke. yeah.— no. yeah. no. yeah. in your bike. yeah. it's— no. yeah. no. yeah. in your bike. yeah. it's an- no. yeah. no. yeah. in your bike. “bit?" c “t?“ i ti. bike. yeah. it's an electric bike. it's a hybrid bike. is it. tbat— bike. it's a hybrid bike. is it. tbat stttt— bike. it's a hybrid bike. is it. that still counts. _ bike. it's a hybrid bike. is it. that still counts. do- it's a hybrid bike. c that still counts. ttit ti ” that still counts. do you drive an electric car? no i can't

afford one. would you if you seate— afford one. would you if you could afford— afford one. would you if you could afford one— afford one. would you if you could afford one if- afford one. would you if you could afford one if it- i would you if you could afford one if it went out far could afford one if it went out tat emeaeb— could afford one if it went out far enough without my having to estate— far enough without my having to tesbateelamt— far enough without my having to rechargeland none— far enough without my having to recharge and none of them recharge it and none of them tees.— recharge it and none of them tees—tt- recharge it and none of them tees—b t- recharge it and none of them tees—b t tt- does. or at least if i if i seem— does. or at least if i if i spent to— does. or at least if i if i spent 70 et— does. or at least if i if i spent 70 or £80,000 on a car, i seate— spent 70 or £80,000 on a car, i seate etebabty— spent 70 or £80,000 on a car, i could probably get— spent 70 or £80,000 on a car, i could probably get one that weake— could probably get one that weate 90— could probably get one that weate 90 tast— could probably get one that would go just about far enough. i would go just about far enough. t sam-t— would go just about far enough. t sam-t attem— would go just about far enough. i can't afford that— would go just about far enough. i can't afford that and i weattm-t— i can't afford that and i wouldn't want to spend even if i bat— wouldn't want to spend even if i bat tt— wouldn't want to spend even if i bat t. t— wouldn't want to spend even if i had it, i wouldn't— wouldn't want to spend even if i had it, i wouldn't want to spend esoeoo— had it, i wouldn't want to spend esoeoo em— had it, i wouldn't want to spend esoeoo em a— had it, i wouldn't want to spend £80,000 on a on— had it, i wouldn't want to spend £80,000 on a on a— had it, i wouldn't want to spend £80,000 on a on a car. yeah. tbese— £80,000 on a on a car. yeah. tbese ttttte— £80,000 on a on a car. yeah. these little minis— £80,000 on a on a car. yeah. these little minis you get, you knew— these little minis you get, you knew-ee— these little minis you get, you kmew-ee bo— these little minis you get, you know go 150 miles and you know that. go 150 miles and you sent— know that. go 150 miles and you sent tety— know that. go150 miles and you sent tety em— know that. go 150 miles and you can't rely on them— know that. go 150 miles and you can't rely on them that maybe i seate— can't rely on them that maybe i seatt abett— can't rely on them that maybe i could afford and— can't rely on them that maybe i could afford and more in my base— could afford and more in my price bracket.— could afford and more in my price bracket. no, i don't. so tve— price bracket. no, i don't. so be set— price bracket. no, i don't. so be set a— price bracket. no, i don't. so i've got a jaguar— price bracket. no, i don't. so i've got a jaguar and i made tbts— i've got a jaguar and i made this decision— i've got a jaguar and i made this decision because i gave up asat tet— this decision because i gave up a car for about— this decision because i gave up a car for about three years. and wbem— a car for about three years. and when t— a car for about three years. and when t aet— a car for about three years. and when t eet tt— a car for about three years. and when i got it replaced , it went when i got it replaced, it went bask— when i got it replaced, it went bask te— when i got it replaced, it went back to having— when i got it replaced, it went back to having a— when i got it replaced, it went back to having a car. i looked vety— back to having a car. i looked vety tast— back to having a car. i looked vety tast twee— back to having a car. i looked very just three years. this very just three years. is this sbett— very just three years. is this stem-meet- very just three years. is this short-need to- very just three years. is this short-need to go- very just three years. is this short need to go to short story i need to go to bteak. — short story i need to go to bteak. tm— short story i need to go to bteak. m a— short story i need to go to break. “ short story i need to go to- break. in a minute, i move to on a different story. i very seriously looked - a different story. i very seriously looked at- ti “iii“ 56th i very seriously looked at getting an etesttts— seriously looked at getting an etesttts — seriously looked at getting an electric car. i— seriously looked at getting an electric car. i really seriously eeemstve— electric car. i really seriously eseemstve—yeai electric car. i really seriously. expensive—you can expensive. and if you if you can mave— expensive. and if you if you can meve-eme— expensive. and if you if you can bave-eme sat— expensive. and if you if you can have .one car and - expensive. and if you if you can have-one car and i- expensive. and if you if you can have one car and i can only have only one car and i can only tave— have only one car and i can only have ee— have only one car and i can only have one car because i've got eae-aetmt- have one car because i've got eae-aetmtt. yea- have one car because i've got one permit, you can have one parking permit, you can have eae-vea— one parking permit, you can have eae-vea sammet— one parking permit, you can have one you cannot afford to one car. you cannot afford to tety— one car. you cannot afford to tety em— one car. you cannot afford to tety em am— one car. you cannot afford to rely on an electric- one car. you cannot afford to rely on an electric car. that's it. rely on an electric car. that's tt. ia— rely on an electric car. that's tt. ia tey— rely on an electric car. that's ttla tey tet— rely on an electric car. that's

it. .a toy for the- rely on an electric car. that's it. a toy for the rich. ' it. it's a toy for the rich. a toy— it. it's a toy for the rich. a by tet— it. it's a toy for the rich. a by tet tbe— it. it's a toy for the rich. a toy for the rich. - it. it's a toy for the rich. ' ”i“ have it. it's a toy for the rich. ' have you it. it's a toy for the rich. ' ”i“ have you got toy for the rich. have you got an toy for the rich. have you got am etesttts— toy for the rich. have you got an electric car?— toy for the rich. have you got an electric car? are - ” i“ have you got an electric car? are you rich? is an electric car? are you rich? tslyeat— an electric car? are you rich? tslyeat teye— an electric car? are you rich? islyour toy? tell- an electric car? are you rich? is your toy? tell me, matthew is it your toy? tell me, matthew says— is it your toy? tell me, matthew says tt-s— is it your toy? tell me, matthew says as vety— is it your toy? tell me, matthew says it's very simple. michelle bttz— says it's very simple. michelle bttz ts— says it's very simple. michelle ulez is killing— says it's very simple. michelle ulez is killing business. dave says— ulez is killing business. dave says-t— ulez is killing business. dave says-t kmew- ulez is killing business. dave says i know thinks the says everyone i know thinks the metettst— says everyone i know thinks the metettst ts— says everyone i know thinks the motorist is under— says everyone i know thinks the motorist is under attack. tmaetme— motorist is under attack. imagine that— motorist is under attack. imagine that whole segment wttbeat— imagine that whole segment without having— imagine that whole segment without having a massive rant abeat— without having a massive rant abeat zo— without having a massive rant abeat ese-am— without having a massive rant about 20-an hour- without having a massive rant about 20 an hour speed about 20 mile an hour speed ttmtts— about 20 mile an hour speed ttmttslvety— about 20 mile an hour speed limits.-very-of- limits. i'm very proud of mysett. — limits. i'm very proud of myself. right.- limits. i'm very proud of myself. right. to take myself. right. i'm going to take a-bteak.— myself. right. i'm going to take a-bteak. tve— myself. right. i'm going to take a break. i've covered your a quick break. i've covered your bease— a quick break. i've covered your bease-sevetet— a quick break. i've covered your house.-covered-car. i house. i've covered your car. wbem— house. i've covered your car. wbemlseme— house. i've covered your car. whenicome back,- house. i've covered your car. when come back, want talk when i come back, i want to talk to when i come back, i want to talk te-abeat— when i come back, i want to talk te-abeat meet.— when i come back, i want to talk to-about food. don't- when i come back, i want to talk to about food. don't go to you about food. don't go amywbete— to you about food. don't go amywbete .—

hi there. i'm michelle dewberry amt— hi there. i'm michelle dewberry amt tm— hi there. i'm michelle dewberry amt t-m keeetme— hi there. i'm michelle dewberry and i'm keeping you company mebt— and i'm keeping you company ttebt tbteaeb— and i'm keeping you company right through till 7:00 tonight. you right through till 7:00 tonight. vea gays— right through till 7:00 tonight. vea gays ate— right through till 7:00 tonight. you guys are getting in touch abeat— you guys are getting in touch about electric— you guys are getting in touch about electric cars. many of you saytme— about electric cars. many of you saytme yea-t— about electric cars. many of you saying you'd absolutely love to be-te— saying you'd absolutely love to be-te abett— saying you'd absolutely love to be to afford would be able to afford one. would yeae— be able to afford one. would yeae team— be able to afford one. would yeae veab. t— be able to afford one. would you? yeah. i don't think i would astaatty— you? yeah. i don't think i would astaatty .— you? yeah. i don't think i would actually , because— you? yeah. i don't think i would actually , because i— you? yeah. i don't think i would actually , because i do so much actually, because i do so much tene— actually, because i do so much teme etstamse— actually, because i do so much long distance driving, i'd be teamed.— long distance driving, i'd be terrified-conk- long distance driving, i'd be terrified. conk out terrified. i'd conk out somewhere- terrified. i'd conk out somewhere halfway between gouda and somewhere halfway between gouda amt-waste.— somewhere halfway between gouda amt-wbete. eme— somewhere halfway between gouda and-where. one of- somewhere halfway between gouda and where. one of my and knows where. one of my ts— and knows where. one of my viewers is saying— and knows where. one of my viewers is saying all of this

and knows where. one of my view about saying all of this and knows where. one of my view about electric ll of this and knows where. one of my view about electric cars. this talk about electric cars. ttkbette— talk about electric cars. michelle, what about of the michelle, what about all of the energy — michelle, what about all of the emetey-tbat- michelle, what about all of thej energy,-that-into energy, etcetera, that goes into steattme— energy, etcetera, that goes into creating .batteries- energy, etcetera, that goes into creating batteries for these creating the batteries for these tbtmese— creating the batteries for these tbtmese eme— creating the batteries for these tbtmese eme et— creating the batteries for these things? one of the things i'm atways— things? one of the things i'm aways-et- things? one of the things i'm always-of, and- things? one of the things i'm always of, and you always thinking of, and you meet— always thinking of, and you mtebt-tbe— always thinking of, and you might the answer to this might know the answer to this wbem— might know the answer to this when t— might know the answer to this when t see— might know the answer to this when i see all— might know the answer to this when i see all these politicians going— when i see all these politicians oetme abeat— when i see all these politicians going about their— when i see all these politicians going about their in going about their business in tbett— going about their business in theta—ate- going about their business in their—are always. their cars, there are always tbese— their cars, there are alwaysi tbese—teat their cars, there are always- tbese—teat by these very gas guzzling four by tas— these very gas guzzling four by teats-amt— these very gas guzzling four by fours.-and their- these very gas guzzling four by fours. and their entourage. fours. them and their entourage. are fours. them and their entourage. ate-etesttts— fours. them and their entourage. are-electric ones? - fours. them and their entourage. are-electric ones? i- fours. them and their entourage. are electric ones? i“ c are they electric ones? i don't knew— are they electric ones? i don't know -official - are they electric ones? i don't know official cars. know about the official cars. i think lot of the think quite a lot of the official are electric or official cars are electric or hybnd official cars are electric or hybrid now, which is why they conk out, i suppose. well i always at them i think, always look at them and i think, i you're not using, but you i hope you're not using, but you can a big suv, which is a can get a big suv, which is a hybnd it can get a big suv, which is a hybrid it can look like hybrid suv, and it can look like a big guzzler, but actually a big gas guzzler, but actually have a hybrid engine. i know one former minister who drives one like for example, they like that, for example, but they are they very are privately they are very expensive, aren't mean, expensive, aren't they? i mean, they so expensive, aren't they? i mean, they-so expensive. - expensive, aren't they? i mean, they so expensive. volvo they are so expensive. volvo tbtma. — they are so expensive. volvo tame—ame- they are so expensive. volvo thing. and squeeze thing. shall i try and squeeze in a bit of food chat before we go then. i've done your house, yeav— go then. i've done your house, yeav-yeav— go then. i've done your house, your-your food's- titit ’“i“ i've done your house, your your food's right. your car and your food's right. t-m — your car and your food's right. t-m tast— your car and your food's right. t-m tast eemt— your car and your food's right. i'm just going-cut- your car and your food's right. i'm just going cut to the i'm just going to cut to the same— i'm just going to cut to the sbaseltbts— i'm just going to cut to the chase .this-do- i'm just going to cut to the chase this do you i'm just going to cut to the- chase .this-do you think chase on this one. do you think we-te— chase on this one. do you think we-te be— chase on this one. do you think we-to be slightly- chase on this one. do you think we to be slightly more we need to be slightly more tmeeeemeemt— we need to be slightly more independent comes to independent when it comes to etewtme— independent when it comes to etewtme-teet- independent when it comes to growing food security growing our food, food security ame— growing our food, food security amt att— growing our food, food security amt att tbe— growing our food, food security and all the rest— growing our food, food security and all the rest of— growing our food, food security and all the rest of it less dependent—

and all the rest of it less- dependent-imports? dependent on foreign imports? kevtm— dependent on foreign imports? kevtm-teeat— dependent on foreign imports? kevin,-ideal world, - dependent on foreign imports? kevin,-ideal world, yes. i kevin, in an ideal world, yes. but i feel sorry for our farmers right? they're suffering from fertiliser costs. costs fertiliser costs. fuel costs feed costs. and hate to say it feed costs. and i hate to say it because it will divide people, but since brexit they've lost their nearest export markets. they've had a reduction in subsidy. hang on, hang on, hang on. it's relevant. can we on. it's relevant. how can we produce own food? they are produce our own food? they are suffering and it's farmers saying that we're not exporting it. then we are producing more of it. then we are producing more et-ewm— it. then we are producing more et-ewm teee. — it. then we are producing more of-own food. i— it. then we are producing more of-own food. i feel- c then we are producing more of own food. ”titii of our own food. i feel sorry tet— of our own food. i feel sorry for our farmers . that's of our own food. ”titii ” that's what for our farmers. that's what we're suffering,— ” that's what we're suffering, producing more of we're suffering, producing more et ea— we're suffering, producing more of our own food. _ we're suffering, producing more of our own food. ”titi; of our own food. the farmers are very unhappy. daniel yeah, of our own food. ”titi; will i. daniel yeah, well, very unhappy. daniel yeah, well, semeltbe— very unhappy. daniel yeah, well, some-the farmers— very unhappy. daniel yeah, well, some .the farmers are - will i. daniel yeah, well, some the farmers are unhappy some of the farmers are unhappy and some of the farmers are unhappy amt—t— some of the farmers are unhappy amt—t tbtmk- some of the farmers are unhappy and—i think there. and some of them i think there are and some of them i think there ae-oe— and some of them i think there ate-emeltbe- and some of them i think there are one the reasons are reasons. one of the reasons tbe— are reasons. one of the reasons the tamets— are reasons. one of the reasons the farmers are— are reasons. one of the reasons the farmers are unhappy that are reasons. one of the reasons the fhaven'tare unhappy that are reasons. one of the reasons the fhaven't hadinhappy that are reasons. one of the reasons the fhaven't had aiappy that are reasons. one of the reasons the fhaven't had a clear that they haven't had a clear tttesttem— they haven't had a clear direction from - they haven't had a clear direction from the government on wbat— direction from the government on wbat yeav— direction from the government on what your government, your eevemmemt— what your government, your- government,-government, government, what our government, yas— yours, our elected government. vea-te— yours, our elected government. vea-me wamt— yours, our elected government. you're want farmers do you're want the farmers to do be — you're want the farmers to do be me— you're want the farmers to do too. and-certainly- you're want the farmers to do too. and certainly haven't too. and they certainly haven't bat— too. and they certainly haven't bat steam— too. and they certainly haven't had clear direction from the tabeat— had clear direction from the tabeat-as— had clear direction from the labour- as to- had clear direction from the labour as to what they labour party as to what they meet— labour party as to what they mtebt wamt— labour party as to what they might want farmers do . do you might want farmers to do. do you want— might want farmers to do. do you want-te— might want farmers to do. do you wamt-te grow— might want farmers to do. do you want-to grow food?- might want farmers to do. do you want to grow food? do you want them to grow food? do you want— want them to grow food? do you want-tbt— want them to grow food? do you want-tttt tbe— want them to grow food? do you want-fill the fields- want them to fill the fields wttb — want them to fill the fields wttb-tamets- want them to fill the fields with-panelsldo- want them to fill the fields with panels do you want them to fill the fields- with - panels i do you want with solar panels or do you want we want— with solar panels or do you want we want tbem— with solar panels or do you want we want them to— with solar panels or do you want we want them to be— with solar panels or do you want we want them to be set for aside

btettvetstty— we want them to be set for aside biodiversity net _ we want them to be set for aside biodiversity net gain . nobody biodiversity net gain. nobody kes— biodiversity net gain. nobody knows. labour— biodiversity net gain. nobody knows. labour supports all these tbtmes— knows. labour supports all these tbtmes evem— knows. labour supports all these things even more— knows. labour supports all these things even more than the eevemmemt— things even more than the government does, so they'll have to government does, so they'll have te make— government does, so they'll have te make tbett— government does, so they'll have to make their minds up if they ever come close— to make their minds up if they ever come close to— to make their minds up if they ever come close to government, wbtsb— ever come close to government, wbtsb t— ever come close to government, which i fervently— ever come close to government, which i fervently hope is not going— which i fervently hope is not oetme te— which i fervently hope is not going to happen— which i fervently hope is not going to happen . but which i fervently hope is not going to happen. but i which i fervently hope is not going to happen . but i would say going to happen. but i would say tbat— going to happen. but i would say tbat we— going to happen. but i would say tbat we saw— going to happen. but i would say that we saw from _ going to happen. but i would say that we saw from ukraine the mvastem— that we saw from ukraine the et— that we saw from ukraine the invasion of ukraine that astaatty— invasion of ukraine that actually being a bit more self satttstemt— actually being a bit more self sufficient enough . we can never sufficient enough. we can never be wbetty— sufficient enough. we can never be wholly self—sufficient in ms— be wholly self—sufficient in tbts seamtty. — be wholly self—sufficient in this country. we— be wholly self—sufficient in this country. we haven't been self—sufficient— this country. we haven't been self—sufficient in— this country. we haven't been self—sufficient in food for a seaete— self—sufficient in food for a seaete et— self—sufficient in food for a couple of hundred years. yeah, bat— couple of hundred years. yeah, bat-a— couple of hundred years. yeah, bat-a btt— couple of hundred years. yeah, but-a bit more- but being a bit more self—sufficient would be a good ttea— self—sufficient would be a good ttea .— self—sufficient would be a good ttea lweakt— self—sufficient would be a good idea .lwould, i— self—sufficient would be a good idea . would, i think idea. it would, i think government- idea. it would, i think government should take that in tame.— government should take that in tame-steam— government should take that in hand,-clear view- government should take that in hand, clear view and give hand, have a clear view and give tttesttems— hand, have a clear view and give tttesttems te— hand, have a clear view and give directions to farmers. your tamets— directions to farmers. your tamets etew— directions to farmers. your farmers grow things. ii farmers grow things. i'll leave you— farmers grow things. i'll leave yea te— farmers grow things. i'll leave you to ponder that one at home. would you pay more? for example, if could get, don't know, if you could get, i don't know, whatever product it is, whatever your favourite food is, if you could you knew it had could source it, you knew it had been here in britain, been created here in britain, would you be to pay would you be prepared to pay a british premium for that product? you money, product? you haven't got money, ttkbette— product? you haven't got money, michelle. that's— ii7 you haven't got money, michelle. that's problem. michelle. that's the problem. wett— michelle. that's the problem. wett eeeete— michelle. that's the problem. well people, we— michelle. that's the problem. well people, we all have a settate— well people, we all have a certain amount— well people, we all have a certain amount of money. c certain amount of money. it's bew—

certain amount of money. it's mew—tt- certain amount of money. it's mew—b. wbat- certain amount of money. it's how—it, what wel how we prioritise it, what we choose prioritise spend choose to prioritise and spend it on. suspect for some people it on. i suspect for some people that a real big thing that might be a real big thing for them. the whole buy british stewart rich. stewart says i'm not rich. michelle i'm a single income household, to household, but we've got to electric live in electric vehicles. we live in shropshire. it's a big city. shropshire. it's not a big city. we've no problem relying on we've got no problem relying on electric, says. had mine electric, he says. i've had mine since and i've never run since 2017 and i've never run out charge. on long out of charge. even on long journeys. uh, i like that out of charge. even on long journeys . uh, i like that here journeys. uh, i like that here in shropshire— journeys. uh, i like that here in shropshire .— uh, i like that here in shropshire . yeah. ti; c in shropshire. yeah. he hasn't seevmsee— in shropshire. yeah. he hasn't convinced me, though. i shall leave you to ponder that food. one i can tell you now. it's made me hungry. look at the time. flies you're time. it flies when you're having doesn't it? having fun, doesn't it? gentlemen? you much gentlemen? thank you very much for tonight. thank you for your time tonight. thank you as uh, not many fans of as well. uh, not many fans of the ulez out there. this war on motorists. i have to say, i don't think it's going anywhere any time soon. and i think that is one that will rumble on and on and on. so i shall leave you to ponder it. have yourself a fantastic evening . up next is fantastic evening. up next is nigel farage and i will be back with you exactly the same time tomorrow, 6:00 till 7:00. have a

wonderful evening and i shall see you then . hello and welcome see you then. hello and welcome to see you then. hello and welcome te yeae— see you then. hello and welcome te yeat tatest— see you then. hello and welcome to your latest update— “ti“ hello and welcome to your latest update brought to you by— to your latest update brought to yea by tbe— to your latest update brought to yea by tee wet— to your latest update brought to you by the met office. i'm mark wttsee.— you by the met office. i'm mark wttsee. as— you by the met office. i'm mark wttsee. as we— you by the met office. i'm mark wilson. as we head through ttttay— wilson. as we head through tetay. teee — wilson. as we head through friday, then another changeable day friday, then another changeable eaylseme— friday, then another changeable eaylseme wttb— friday, then another changeable day-come with a— friday, then another changeable day come with a mixture of day to come with a mixture of saesbtee— day to come with a mixture of sunshine and— day to come with a mixture of sunshine and showers, some more eetststeet— sunshine and showers, some more eetststeet tam— sunshine and showers, some more persistent rain across far persistent rain across the far seate— persistent rain across the far seatb—wteesi persistent rain across the far. south _winds will south for a time. but winds will stay— south for a time. but winds will stay-btt— south for a time. but winds will stay-bit lighter— south for a time. but winds will stay-bit lighter-of- stay that bit lighter than of be — stay that bit lighter than of be -at— stay that bit lighter than of be -at tbe- stay that bit lighter than of late. at the pressure late. we look at the pressure eattem. — late. we look at the pressure eattete. -yea— late. we look at the pressure pattern.-you can- late. we look at the pressure pattern. you can see the pattern. then you can see the wby— pattern. then you can see the reason why low— pattern. then you can see the reason why low pressure is still seettet— reason why low pressure is still seettee asess— reason why low pressure is still centred across the _ reason why low pressure is still centred across the uk as we head tbteaeb— centred across the uk as we head tbteaeb-tete— centred across the uk as we head through-into the- centred across the uk as we head through into the friday centred across the uk as we head thro this into the friday centred across the uk as we head thro this weather into the friday centred across the uk as we head thro this weather front the friday and this weather front appeaseme- and this weather front approaching from west. approaching from the west. tbat-s— approaching from the west. that's-could- approaching from the west. that's could bring some that's what could bring some beavtee— heavier, more persistent rain -aesssatb- heavier, more persistent rain across-south, at- heavier, more persistent rain across south, at least across the far south, at least tet— across the far south, at least tetlttme.— across the far south, at least tetlttme. se— across the far south, at least forltime. so you- across the far south, at least for time. so you can pick up for a time. so you can pick up on for a time. so you can pick up ee-teee— for a time. so you can pick up on then approaching on that rain then approaching bevee— on that rain then approaching devon .cornwall- on that rain then approaching devon cornwall as we head devon and cornwall as we head teteaeb— devon and cornwall as we head tbteaeb tbe— devon and cornwall as we head through the course— devon and cornwall as we head through the course of the night wbem— through the course of the night when-strengthen- through the course of the nighti when-strengthen-as when sudden strengthen here as wet.— when sudden strengthen here as wett—tbetel well. but elsewhere, yes, there wtt— well. but elsewhere, yes, therei will—outbreaks will be some showery outbreaks of will be some showery outbreaks et—ssettaee- of rain across scotland and wettbem— of rain across scotland and| northern—much northern ireland, but much of the northern ireland, but much of tbe seaetty— northern ireland, but much of the country will— northern ireland, but much of the country will turn drier with tast— the country will turn drier with tast tsetatee— the country will turn drier with just isolated showers and 1 or 2 mm— just isolated showers and 1 or 2 mtst-eatsbes.— just isolated showers and 1 or 2 mist-patches. and- just isolated showers and 1 or 2 mist patches. and under mist and fog patches. and under tbese—tt— mist and fog patches. and under tbese—tt-tam- those clear skies it will turn sbttty— those clear skies it will turn sbttty wttb— those clear skies it will turn chilly with temperatures in meat— chilly with temperatures in rural—fairly. chilly with temperatures in. rural—fairly close rural spots falling fairly close to rural spots falling fairly close te—we — rural spots falling fairly close te—we etsk- rural spots falling fairly close te—we etskleei to freezing. so we pick up on tbat— to freezing. so we pick up on tbat beavy— to freezing. so we pick up on that heavy rain.— to freezing. so we pick up on that heavy rain. then what a wet stat—astess- that heavy rain. then what a wet start—across parts- that heavy rain. then what a wet start—across parts of. start to the day across parts of bevee— start to the day across parts of devon .cornwall- start to the day across parts of devon cornwall and south devon and cornwall and south wakes.— devon and cornwall and south wates. aet— devon and cornwall and south wales. and that— devon and cornwall and south wales. and that rain will

seetteae— wales. and that rain will continue to— wales. and that rain will continue to push its way eastwates— continue to push its way eastwards many continue to push its way- eastwards-many southern eastwards across many southern seastat— eastwards across many southern seastat-we— eastwards across many southern coastal-we head- eastwards across many southern coastal we head through coastal areas as we head through the coastal areas as we head through tee—tbeaem- coastal areas as we head through the _though, there| the day. elsewhere though, there will the day. elsewhere though, there wit—et- the day. elsewhere though, there wttt—et saeeyl will be some bright or sunny seette— will be some bright or sunny seeks-agate.- will be some bright or sunny spells, again, another will be some bright or sunny spelof again, another will be some bright or sunny spelof sunshine again, another will be some bright or sunny spelof sunshine and n, another will be some bright or sunny spelof sunshine and heavyther day of sunshine and heavy showers. - about- day of sunshine and heavy showers. about anywhere showers. just about anywhere seate— showers. just about anywhere could _shower. could see a heavy shower with tee—tbaetetl could see a heavy shower with. the _thunder and the risk of hail and thunder and wttb—agate.- with light winds. once again, tbese— with light winds. once again, tbese-seate- with light winds. once again, these-could be- with light winds. once again, these could be quite these showers could be quite stew— these showers could be quite stew mevtee— these showers could be quite slow moving, and under slow moving, too. and under all tbat—wtttl that cloud and showers, it will be—seet- that cloud and showers, it will be—seet stay- that cloud and showers, it will be_cool day fori be another fairly cool day for tbe— be another fairly cool day for the ttme— be another fairly cool day for the time-the— be another fairly cool day for the time the year. afternoon the time of the year. afternoon maes— the time of the year. afternoon mobs-st— the time of the year. afternoon mobs-b te— the time of the year. afternoon mobs-b te 12- the time of the year. afternoon highs 9 to 12 degrees highs of just 9 to 12 degrees for highs of just 9 to 12 degrees tet-et— highs of just 9 to 12 degrees tet-et-we- highs of just 9 to 12 degrees for-of-we head. for most of us as we head tbteaeb— for most of us as we head through-into- for most of us as we head through into the evening through friday into the evening and through friday into the evening amt—tbem— through friday into the evening and-then those- and overnight. then those sbewety— and overnight. then those showery outbreaks rain will and overnight. then those showt0' outbreaks rain will and overnight. then those showto turn)reaks rain will and overnight. then those showto turn heavier rain will and overnight. then those showto turn heavier and] will and overnight. then those showto turn heavier and more start to turn heavier and more eetststeet— persistent across the south easemt— persistent across the south eastern england. eastern parts of england. so it seate—etstatel eastern parts of england. so iti could—picture for could be quite a wet picture for the could be quite a wet picture for tee—ease- could be quite a wet picture for the—rush hour. the friday evening rush hour betete— the friday evening rush hour before—starts. before that rain then starts to sweat— before that rain then starts to sweat ee— before that rain then starts to sweat eeltbe— spread on to the east. elsewhere,— spread on to the east. elsewhere, those elsewhere, though, many of those sewebs— elsewhere, though, many of those bseeswe— i showers will fade away as we beat — showers will fade away as we beat tbteaeb— showers will fade away as we head through evening head through the evening and evemtebt. — head through the evening andi overnight. _drier, overnight. and so turning drier, seaett—aet- overnight. and so turning drier, clearer,_and fog- clearer, 1 or 2 mist and fog eatsbes. — clearer, 1 or 2 mist and fog patches. .again,- clearer, 1 or 2 mist and fog patches. again, quite patches. and again, quite a stub— patches. and again, quite a may meet— patches. and again, quite a chilly night to— patches. and again, quite a chilly night to come, particularly- chilly night to come,- particularly-countryside. particularly in the countryside. so particularly in the countryside. se—satateay- particularly in the countryside.- so_saturday morning, so as we start saturday morning, teem—stu- then a bit more cloud still in tbat— then a bit more cloud still in that southeastern then a bit more cloud still in. that-southeastern-and that far southeastern corner and tbat—stat- that far southeastern corner and that—startllead. that cloud could start to lead to that cloud could start to lead te-sbewets— that cloud could start to lead to-showers by- that cloud could start to lead to-showers by the - that cloud could start to lead to showers by the time we to 1 or 2 showers by the time we get teteaeb— to 1 or 2 showers by the time we get teteaeeltbe— to 1 or 2 showers by the time we get through the afternoon. get through to the afternoon. bat— get through to the afternoon.| bat—a but elsewhere, look at this, a mask— but elsewhere, look at this, a mast-stay— but elsewhere, look at this, a. much - day i saturday, much brighter day on saturday, tateety— much brighter day on saturday, tateety-tbe— much brighter day on saturday, largely .the-light- much brighter day on saturday, largely the light winds throughout the day. light winds as—tbat— throughout the day. light winds as_that sunshine. as well. and in that sunshine teettee— as well. and in that sunshine feeling-warmer- as well. and in that sunshine. feeling-warmer.well. feeling that bit warmer as well. it feeling that bit warmer as well. tt—tty— feeling that bit warmer as well. tt—ttylwe- feeling that bit warmer as well. tt—ttylwe beaei it stays largely dry as we head tbteaeb— through sunday into the early part— through sunday into the early

eae—wttbl through sunday into the early. eat—wttb part of next week. and with more saesmeb— part of next week. and with more saesmeb tt— part of next week. and with more sunshine, it should— part of next week. and with more sunshine, it should start to wamas-— sunshine, it should start to warm-as well. - sunshine, it should start to warm as well. i'll see you .

soon well, seem- well, tonight seem— well, tonight we provide absetate— well, tonight we provide absolute proof that biden seabbet— absolute proof that biden snubbed the— absolute proof that biden snubbed the union flag when he was snubbed the union flag when he te— snubbed the union flag when he was in northern— snubbed the union flag when he was in northern ireland yesteetay. — was in northern ireland yesterday. �*tfvt�*ti was in northern ireland yesterday. was in northern ireland- yesterday. we think this proves that he really is anti british. we're also going to have a look at the comments made by marine le she says if she becomes le pen. she says if she becomes the president a couple of the french president a couple of years, will solve the channel years, we will solve the channel migrant crisis by working together. really interesting that. and we'll also take a deep dive on china. liz truss in dc yesterday saying you never know, china could invade taiwan at any moment. we'll assess just how big a threat we think china is.

but before all of that,