big a threat we think china is. but before all of that, let's get the news with polly middlehurst . nigel, thank you middlehurst. nigel, thank you and good evening to you. our top story on gb news today,- story on gb news today, president— story on gb news today, president biden says that the uk government— president biden says that the uk government should be working closely— government should be working more closely with the irish government— more closely with the irish government to _ more closely with the irish government to support northern ireland.— government to support northern ireland. ..._ government to support northern ireland. in a— government to support northern ireland. in a historic address to the— ireland. in a historic address to the irish— ireland. in a historic address to the irish parliament this afternoon,— to the irish parliament this afternoon, mr.— to the irish parliament this afternoon, mr. biden said the good— afternoon, mr. biden said the good friday— afternoon, mr. biden said the good friday agreement has had a significant— good friday agreement has had a significant positive— good friday agreement has had a significant positive impact . it significant positive impact. it and— significant positive impact. it and he— significant positive impact. it and he urged— significant positive impact. it and he urged those assembled to that— and he urged those assembled to ensure that political violence must— ensure that political violence must never allowed again to take how.— must never allowed again to take hom- his— must never allowed again to take hold. his comments— must never allowed again to take hold. his comments received warm applause— hold. his comments received warm applause ee— hold. his comments received warm appaaaee as he— hold. his comments received warm applause as he spoke in front of his applause as he spoke in front of me eon— applause as he spoke in front of his son, hunter— applause as he spoke in front of his son, hunter and sister vaaeaae— his son, hunter and sister valerie biden.— his son, hunter and sister valerie biden. owens president baden— valerie biden. owens president eaaen asa— valerie biden. owens president biden also spoke— valerie biden. owens president biden also spoke of the shared peppery— biden also spoke of the shared history between— biden also spoke of the shared history between ireland and the united— history between ireland and the united states— history between ireland and the united states and— history between ireland and the united states and touched on the stapes— united states and touched on the stapes mae— united states and touched on the stories that tied— united states and touched on the stories that tied the two nations— stories that tied the two nations together . stories that tied the two - nations together . these stories nations together. these stories are the very heart of what binds ireland and america together.

they speak to a history defined by our dreams. they speak to a president written by our shared responsibility , and they speak responsibility, and they speak to a future poised for unlimited shared possibilities . so today shared possibilities. so today i'd like to reflect on the endunng i'd like to reflect on the enduring strength of the connection between ireland and the united states. a partnership for the ages . joe biden speaking for the ages. joe biden speaking earner— for the ages. joe biden speaking earner .— for the ages. joe biden speaking earner . wen,— for the ages. joe biden speaking earlier. well, here— for the ages. joe biden speaking earlier. well, here the- earlier. well, here the chancellor— earlier. well, here the chancellor says the outlook for the uk— chancellor says the outlook for the uk economy— chancellor says the outlook for the uk economy is— chancellor says the outlook for the uk economy is brighter than expected,— the uk economy is brighter than expected, despite _ the uk economy is brighter than expected, despite new figures shephe— expected, despite new figures showing there _ expected, despite new figures showing there was no growth in the menth— showing there was no growth in the month ah— showing there was no growth in the month of february. data from the month of february. data from the office— the month of february. data from the office for— the month of february. data from the office for national statistics— the office for national statistics shows a 0.4% decrease in statistics shows a 0.4% decrease h prese— statistics shows a 0.4% decrease in gross domestic— statistics shows a 0.4% decrease in gross domestic product from january. — in gross domestic product from january. the— in gross domestic product from january. the services sector heu— january. the services sector eat with— january. the services sector fell with the _ january. the services sector fell with the ons blaming strike action— fell with the ons blaming strike action hy— fell with the ons blaming strike action by teachers— fell with the ons blaming strike action by teachers and civil servants.— action by teachers and civil eehahh. h— action by teachers and civil servants. a fall— action by teachers and civil servants. a fall in gas and eheehhehy— servants. a fall in gas and electricity usage due to milder weather— electricity usage due to milder weather was— electricity usage due to milder weather was also _ electricity usage due to milder weather was also responsible . weather was also responsible. hat— weather was also responsible. hat the— weather was also responsible. but the figures— weather was also responsible. but the figures do show gdp grew eate— but the figures do show gdp grew oats h— but the figures do show gdp grew oats th the— but the figures do show gdp grew 0.1% in the three— but the figures do show gdp grew 0.1% in the three months to tetaaatp— o.i% in the three months to february, with— 0.1% in the three months to february, with jeremy hunt sayhp— february, with jeremy hunt sayhp the— february, with jeremy hunt sayhp the uk— february, with jeremy hunt saying the uk is set to avoid

recession. but— saying the uk is set to avoid recession. but the deputy labour heater— recession. but the deputy labour teatet hhpeta— recession. but the deputy labour leader angela rayner said the government— leader angela rayner said the government had— leader angela rayner said the government had failed to help peapte— government had failed to help peapte . — government had failed to help peapte . wttte— government had failed to help people . while the- government had failed to help people . ft" people. while the economy figures that came out today are very devastating, it shows that productivity and the growth in the economy has been completely flatlined and we've seen that from the imf that have said that they don't believe that's going to better this year. so to get any better this year. so thatis to get any better this year. so that is having an impact on people. energy bills are going up mortgages rents up, their mortgages and rents are , their food prices are going up, their food prices are going up, their food prices are the government are going up and the government have families , have failed to help families, which has a knock on effect on the economy and growth. because if people haven't got money to spend, affect spend, then that will affect growth this country. eight growth in this country. eight serving and former- g " tact. eight serving and former metropol pathe— serving and former metropol police officers— serving and former metropol police officers have been found patty— police officers have been found patty at— police officers have been found patty at press— police officers have been found guilty of gross misconduct over discriminatory— guilty of gross misconduct over discriminatory and offensive messapesthey— discriminatory and offensive messages they sent on whatsapp . messages they sent on whatsapp. the messages they sent on whatsapp. the sheets— messages they sent on whatsapp. the officers, seven— messages they sent on whatsapp. the officers, seven men and one woman, were found— the officers, seven men and one woman, were found to have sent sextst— woman, were found to have sent sextst, taetst— woman, were found to have sent sextst, taetst ,— woman, were found to have sent sexist, racist, homophobic and ttsahthp— sexist, racist, homophobic and disabling comments in a group shat,— disabling comments in a group chat, including— disabling comments in a group chat, including talking about tatte— chat, including talking about katie price's— chat, including talking about katie price's son, harvey . katie price's son, harvey. htsattttty— katie price's son, harvey. disability and—

katie price's son, harvey. disability and weight . during disability and weight. during the tttth— disability and weight. during the tttth tap— disability and weight. during the fifth day of— disability and weight. during the fifth day of the hearing, the— the fifth day of the hearing, the hepat— the fifth day of the hearing, the legal chair— the fifth day of the hearing, the legal chair described the peach— the legal chair described the teach at— the legal chair described the breach of standards as so ht— breach of standards as so serious it justified dismissal in serious it justified dismissal h the— serious it justified dismissal in the united— serious it justified dismissal in the united states. donald hamp— in the united states. donald tmmp has— in the united states. donald trump has been— in the united states. donald trump has been facing questioning— trump has been facing questioning in a deposition heathe— questioning in a deposition heahmp h— questioning in a deposition hearing in new— questioning in a deposition hearing in new york in a £200 mttttam— hearing in new york in a £200 million civil— hearing in new york in a £200 million civil fraud— hearing in new york in a £200 million civil fraud lawsuit. the hermet— million civil fraud lawsuit. the former president— million civil fraud lawsuit. the former president is accused of hemp— former president is accused of hetmp patt— former president is accused of hetmp part at— former president is accused of hetmp part at a— former president is accused of being part of a decade long sheme— being part of a decade long heme ta— being part of a decade long scheme to manipulate property tapest— scheme to manipulate property vaaest amt— scheme to manipulate property values and therefore his net weath— values and therefore his net worth ta— values and therefore his net worth to obtain— values and therefore his net worth to obtain loans and tax benefits— worth to obtain loans and tax benefits, posting— worth to obtain loans and tax benefits, posting on social metha— benefits, posting on social media, donald— benefits, posting on social media, donald trump said ahead of media, donald trump said ahead at the— media, donald trump said ahead at the heathe— media, donald trump said ahead of the hearing he'd used the ta— of the hearing he'd used the case to show— of the hearing he'd used the case to show what a great, paetttahte— case to show what a great, profitable and— case to show what a great, profitable and valuable company het— profitable and valuable company he-t hatt— profitable and valuable company he-t hattt .— profitable and valuable company he-t hattt . ht— profitable and valuable company he'd built . it comes ahead of he'd built. it comes ahead of the— he'd built. it comes ahead of the that— he'd built. it comes ahead of the trial itself— he'd built. it comes ahead of the trial itself ,_ he'd built. it comes ahead of the trial itself , which he'd built. it comes ahead of the trial itself, which is scheduled— the trial itself, which is scheduled to- the trial itself, which is scheduled to begin in october. hete— scheduled to begin in october. here yea-te— scheduled to begin in october. here pate ap— scheduled to begin in october. here you're up to— scheduled to begin in october. here you're up to date on tv anthe— here you're up to date on tv amthe has — here you're up to date on tv online dab radio— here you're up to date on tv online dab radio and on the tune in app— online dab radio and on the tune h app .— online dab radio and on the tune h app . thts— online dab radio and on the tune h app . thts ts— online dab radio and on the tune h app . thts ts eh— online dab radio and on the tune in app . this is gb news, in app. this is gb news, hattah-s— in app. this is gb news, britain's news- in app. this is gb news, britain's news channel. back now to .

to. farage | well, i to. farage well, there's been acres of speculation as to whether joe biden anti—british . some even biden is anti—british. some even speculated he hated the speculated that he hated the united kingdom , a word that i united kingdom, a word that i thought was too strong. but some pretty conclusive evidence has come to us at gb news that come to us here at gb news that suggests he did. will fully snub the union flag when he was in northern ireland on tuesday evening . so let's have a look at evening. so let's have a look at a sequence of how americans behave with their cars. the beast, of course, is a presidential car is known. let's have a look at how they behave when they're here. let's go for president obama in anas sarwar in northern ireland, in 2013. so zahawi he was here. he was the american president and he's flying the american national flag. and yes , for those flag. and yes, for those watching on television, you can see inside the red circle there is the union flag or union jack, if you prefer. and then when joe biden was president and he came

to scotland in 2021 for cop26, what flags did he fly on his car on that day.7 well, actually , on that day.7 well, actually, albie, it's pretty clear for all to see that in this massive, massive entourage erg that arrived at cop26 and goes around with american presidents , but with american presidents, but very easy to see that he flew in scotland . yes, the american flag scotland. yes, the american flag and there it is, the union flag being flown as well . so when being flown as well. so when he's in scotland and joe biden flies the union flag and when he's in the republic of ireland , as he was yesterday and today , well, it's pretty clear what he flies there because there he flies the american flag. and yes , the irish national flag or tree colour, if you prefer , tree colour, if you prefer, nana. but on tuesday night in northern ireland, what did the beast have in terms of flags? and here it is. beast have in terms of flags? and here it is . here's the and here it is. here's the evidence we need. there's the

american flag, the stars and stripes, and there is a flag with the presidential seal . he with the presidential seal. he wilfully and deliberately chose and opted along with the white house, not to fly the union flag. now you know, staying a member of the union is perhaps even more controversial in scotland than it is in some ways , or numerically, at least in northern ireland. i believe this to be a deliberate snub. earlier on, we asked arlene foster, the former first minister of northern ireland, what her reaction to this was . i think we reaction to this was. i think we need to reaction to this was. i think we meet to tha— reaction to this was. i think we need to find out— reaction to this was. i think we need to find out why- f" i think we need to find out why that was the ease— need to find out why that was the amt— need to find out why that was the case and his— need to find out why that was the case and his administration sheatt— the case and his administration sheatt he— the case and his administration should be asked— the case and his administration should be asked why he did not that— should be asked why he did not that ht— should be asked why he did not think it suitable— should be asked why he did not think it suitable to fly the mathemat— think it suitable to fly the national flag— think it suitable to fly the national flag of northern hetamt— national flag of northern ireland when— national flag of northern ireland when he was in this tattsttettam— ireland when he was in this jurisdiction because if i hope it's jurisdiction because if i hope tt-s mat— jurisdiction because if i hope tt-s met the— jurisdiction because if i hope it's not the case— jurisdiction because if i hope it's not the case that he teem-t— it's not the case that he doesn't recognise northern hetamt-s— doesn't recognise northern ireland's place— doesn't recognise northern ireland's place within the umtet— ireland's place within the united kingdom , which of course united kingdom, which of course is united kingdom, which of course ts patt— united kingdom, which of course ts part at— united kingdom, which of course ts part at the— united kingdom, which of course is part of the belfast agreement,- is part of the belfast agreement, but it will be very tmtetestet— agreement, but it will be very interested to— agreement, but it will be very interested to hear— agreement, but it will be very interested to hear the interested to hear what the administration— interested to hear what the administration has to say in tetattam— administration has to say in tetattam ta— administration has to say in relation to this— administration has to say in

relation to this issue . while relation to this issue. well, theme.— relation to this issue. well, theme. we— relation to this issue. well, arlene, we have— relation to this issue. well, arlene, we have asked the white house what the reason was. we even tried the northern ireland office who referred us to the white house. we're waiting for an answer. if it comes during this show, we'll let you know. so you tell me, do you agree with me that joe biden is anti british farage at gb news .uk. now today's been a busy day in the republic of ireland, but it started pretty badly when in a speech he explained that the tie he was wearing was a rugby tie from rob kearney , a former irish from rob kearney, a former irish international and a fifth cousin of biden's. just listen to what he said . see of biden's. just listen to what he said. see this of biden's. just listen to what he said . see this tie of biden's. just listen to what he said. see this tie i of biden's. just listen to what he said . see this tie i have he said. see this tie i have wtth— he said. see this tie i have wtth a— he said. see this tie i have with a shamrock— a: see this tie i have with a shamrock on it? this was given— with a shamrock on it? this was then ta— with a shamrock on it? this was ptvem to me— with a shamrock on it? this was them to me hp— with a shamrock on it? this was given to me by one— with a shamrock on it? this was given to me by one of these guys hpht— given to me by one of these guys hpht hete— given to me by one of these guys hpht here was— given to me by one of these guys right here was a— given to me by one of these guys right here was a hell of a rugby ptapet— right here was a hell of a rugby ptapea amt— right here was a hell of a rugby ptapea amt thep— right here was a hell of a rugby player and they beat the hell of a matt— player and they beat the hell of a htaet amt— player and they beat the hell of a black and tans.— player and they beat the hell of a black and tans. oh, god. but. hat— a black and tans. oh, god. but. hat hat— a black and tans. oh, god. but. hat hat tt— a black and tans. oh, god. but. but but it was— a black and tans. oh, god. but. but but it was when you were a sewer— but but it was when you were a soldier field, _ but but it was when you were a soldier field, wasn't it ? gang soldier field, wasn't it? gang cheape— soldier field, wasn't it? gang chteapa .— soldier field, wasn't it? gang chteapa . amt— soldier field, wasn't it? gang chicago . and after it was all

chicago. and after it was all her he— chicago. and after it was all over her, he gave- chicago. and after it was all over her, he gave my brother attepettp— over her, he gave my brother attepettp tat— over her, he gave my brother allegedly for me.— over her, he gave my brother allegedly for me. but if it washt— allegedly for me. but if it wasnt t— allegedly for me. but if it wasn't, i still— allegedly for me. but if it wasn't, i still took it. i still got— wasn't, i still took it. i still eat the— wasn't, i still took it. i still eat the te— wasn't, i still took it. i still eat the tte .— wasn't, i still took it. i still got the tie . wear it with great got the tie. wear it with great patte— got the tie. wear it with great pate amt— got the tie. wear it with great patte amt sa— got the tie. wear it with great pride and so thank you for all the— pride and so thank you for all the homecoming.— pride and so thank you for all the homecoming. welcome the bad tat— the homecoming. welcome the bad tat att— the homecoming. welcome the bad tea at at— the homecoming. welcome the bad news for all of you— the homecoming. welcome the bad news for all of you is— the homecoming. welcome the bad news for all of you is we'll be hast.— news for all of you is we'll be hast. there-s— news for all of you is we'll be back. there's no— news for all of you is we'll be back. there's no way to keep us eat.— back. there's no way to keep us eat. eat— back. there's no way to keep us out. but thank— back. there's no way to keep us out. but thank you. _ back. there's no way to keep us out. but thank you. thank you. thank— out. but thank you. thank you. thank pea— out. but thank you. thank you. thank pea .— out. but thank you. thank you. thank pea . — out. but thank you. thank you. thank you . well,— out. but thank you. thank you. thank you . while shiraz; out. but thank you. thank you. thank you . �*frtzzz "rzz; athz thank you. well, there we are, rambling , thank you. well, there we are, rambling, only vaguely thank you. well, there we are, rambling , only vaguely coherent rambling, only vaguely coherent . couldn't remember the name of his fifth cousin who'd given him a tie. and he should have said beat the all blacks. now he said the black and tans, which for those anything about those that know anything about history, the royal irish history, were the royal irish special constabulary brought in to fight republicanism and with some degree , if you believe, some degree, if you believe, history of brutality . darren history of brutality. darren darren mccaffrey is in dublin. darren mccaffrey is in dublin. darren after that really rather ridiculous gaffe, has it gone any better for the president and how was his speech to the doyle

yeah, really interesting . a busy yeah, really interesting. a busy day, as you say, for joe- t/tz?“ ”azaleas fizzse g a busy day, as you say, forjoe biden tetap— day, as you say, forjoe biden tetap .— day, as you say, forjoe biden tetap , speattmp— day, as you say, forjoe biden today , speaking, first of all, today, speaking, first of all, a meettmp— today, speaking, first of all, a meettmp wtth— today, speaking, first of all, a meeting with the— today, speaking, first of all, a meeting with the irish president a ttttte— meeting with the irish president a little earlier— meeting with the irish president a little earlier on— meeting with the irish president a little earlier on at nana sue hettemess— a little earlier on at nana sue holderness official residence. amt— holderness official residence. amt th— holderness official residence. amt tm saptmp— holderness official residence. and in saying that, i have to say— and in saying that, i have to sap a— and in saying that, i have to sap a paettp— and in saying that, i have to say a pretty warm welcome, amsaaphstmptp— say a pretty warm welcome, unsurprisingly, for the us thesttemt— unsurprisingly, for the us president. then later on, those tatts— president. then later on, those tatts wtth— president. then later on, those talks with leo _ president. then later on, those talks with leo varadkar, the htsh — talks with leo varadkar, the irish premier— talks with leo varadkar, the irish premier at— talks with leo varadkar, the irish premier at the official estemtee— irish premier at the official residence, which meant that it went— residence, which meant that it went em— residence, which meant that it went em tet— residence, which meant that it went em tea a— residence, which meant that it went on for a hell— residence, which meant that it went on for a hell of a long ttme— went on for a hell of a long time, actually,— went on for a hell of a long time, actually, he went well over schedule— time, actually, he went well over schedule then talking over schedule and then talking to over schedule and then talking te-htsh— over schedule and then talking to irish parliament at this to the irish parliament at this ewemtmp— to the irish parliament at this ewemtmp amt— to the irish parliament at this evening and rac— to the irish parliament at this evening and rac dan wootton, i'm going— evening and rac dan wootton, i'm petma te— evening and rac dan wootton, i'm petmp te heat— evening and rac dan wootton, i'm going to head back— evening and rac dan wootton, i'm going to head back to you heaase— going to head back to you because we're— going to head back to you because we're just been ttstamet— because we're just been disturbed here lots kids disturbed here by lots of kids in disturbed here by lots of kids tm datam— disturbed here by lots of kids in dublin-clearly- disturbed here by lots of kids in dublin clearly have got in dublin who clearly have got ttttte— in dublin who clearly have got ttttte-te— in dublin who clearly have got little-do apart- in dublin who clearly have got little do apart from little else to do apart from teattp— little else to do apart from teattp-wtpet- little else to do apart from really nigel sorry little else to do apart from- really-nigel sorry . really annoy us. nigel sorry. harrem— really annoy us. nigel sorry. darren. that's— really annoy us. nigel sorry. darren. that's okay- really annoy us. nigel sorry. darren. that's okay .- really annoy us. nigel sorry. darren. that's okay . these are, darren. that's okay. these are, these are the risks and dangers of live broadcast getting out in the streets of dublin or indeed anywhere else . it can happen. anywhere else. it can happen. well, let's go up to northern ireland and speak to jim wells, former dup assembly member for south down. jim, good evening.

welcome to the program . jim, welcome to the program. jim, you've just seen the reel of flag pictures that we've shown on is this proof positive that biden deliberately snubbed this national status of northern ireland? well, first of all, wett— ireland? well, first of all, wet teme— ireland? well, first of all, well done to _ ireland? well, first of all, well done to your- ”azearz? well, first of all, well done to your staff ”rz;e5tr:7 well, first of all, well done to your staff for spetttmp — well done to your staff for spetttmp thts— well done to your staff for spotting this exclusive. it took a htt— spotting this exclusive. it took a htt et— spotting this exclusive. it took a wee bit of diligence to find eat— a wee bit of diligence to find eat what— a wee bit of diligence to find out what was— a wee bit of diligence to find out what was going on. yes, i te— out what was going on. yes, i te. r— out what was going on. yes, i te. r hettewe— out what was going on. yes, i do. i believe i— out what was going on. yes, i do. i believe i supported arlene tester— do. i believe i supported arlene tester saptmp— do. i believe i supported arlene tester saptmp r— do. i believe i supported arlene foster saying i believe this eemhtmet— foster saying i believe this combined mind— foster saying i believe this combined mind with the fact that hes— combined mind with the fact that he-s retastmp— combined mind with the fact that he's refusing to— combined mind with the fact that he's refusing to come to the eeatem— he's refusing to come to the coronation-he's- he's refusing to come to the coronation he's recent coronation and he's recent phetesheet— coronation and he's recent photoshoot with gerry adams weatt— photoshoot with gerry adams would indicate _ photoshoot with gerry adams would indicate to me , yes, there would indicate to me, yes, there is would indicate to me, yes, there ts a— would indicate to me, yes, there ts a has— would indicate to me, yes, there ts a htas here.— would indicate to me, yes, there is a bias here. now,— would indicate to me, yes, there is a bias here. now, biden must have— is a bias here. now, biden must have them— is a bias here. now, biden must have known what— is a bias here. now, biden must have known what he was doing when— have known what he was doing when he— have known what he was doing when he refused— have known what he was doing when he refused to fly the union that— when he refused to fly the union ttap th— when he refused to fly the union ttap h the— when he refused to fly the union flag in the united— when he refused to fly the union flag in the united kingdom . so flag in the united kingdom. so it flag in the united kingdom. so tt was— flag in the united kingdom. so it was premeditated. it was cheap— it was premeditated. it was clearly there— it was premeditated. it was clearly there to— it was premeditated. it was clearly there to cause offence amt— clearly there to cause offence amt tt— clearly there to cause offence amt tt has— clearly there to cause offence and it has now— clearly there to cause offence and it has now that it's become paths.— and it has now that it's become pahtte. ceartesp— and it has now that it's become public. courtesy of— and it has now that it's become public. courtesy of gb news. and i public. courtesy of gb news. and r mast— public. courtesy of gb news. and r mast sap— public. courtesy of gb news. and r mast sap he-s— public. courtesy of gb news. and i must say he's going out of his way— i must say he's going out of his wap te— i must say he's going out of his wap te aase— i must say he's going out of his way to cause the— i must say he's going out of his way to cause the maximum offence to way to cause the maximum offence te the— way to cause the maximum offence te the hrtttsh— way to cause the maximum offence to the british citizens of this part— to the british citizens of this part et— to the british citizens of this part et the— to the british citizens of this part et the wt— to the british citizens of this part of the uk. _ to the british citizens of this part of the uk . /

to the british citizens of this part of the uk . t/rz?“ " part of the uk. yeah, i mean clearly this was decided at the white house level. it's pretty impossible that he didn't know this was going to happen. and you know, obama enniskillen flies the flag . biden up in flies the flag. biden up in edinburgh or glasgow rather flies the flag . and i don't flies the flag. and i don't think his visit actually to northern ireland, we forget in a sense , his trip to the republic sense, his trip to the republic , that's all designed for an audience back in america . and do audience back in america. and do you think anything was achieved by biden's visit to northern ireland? well, he's only here for ireland? well, he's only here ter rh— ireland? well, he's only here ter rt heas— ireland? well, he's only here for 15 hours, and— ireland? well, he's only here for 15 hours, and the- 37 well, he's only here for 15 hours, and the total cost to for 15 hours, and the total cost te the— for 15 hours, and the total cost te the peace— for 15 hours, and the total cost to the police service is £7 mttttem— to the police service is £7 million, which— to the police service is £7 million, which the taxpayer in merthem— million, which the taxpayer in northern town _ million, which the taxpayer in northern town is— million, which the taxpayer in northern town is going to have million, which the taxpayer in no bearn town is going to have million, which the taxpayer in no bear . town is going to have million, which the taxpayer in no bear. hein is going to have million, which the taxpayer in no bear. he cameioing to have million, which the taxpayer in no bear. he came heg to have million, which the taxpayer in no bear. he came he made ave million, which the taxpayer in no bear. he came he made one to bear. he came he made one speech.— to bear. he came he made one speeeh. leeatt— to bear. he came he made one speech. .could have- to bear. he came he made one speech. could have written speech. he could have written what— speech. he could have written what-was— speech. he could have written whatlwas tethe— speech. he could have written what was going to say. what he was going to say. i that— what he was going to say. i that tt— what he was going to say. i think it was— what he was going to say. i think it was absolutely could be prettetet. — think it was absolutely could be prettetet. .att— think it was absolutely could be predicted. .all he- think it was absolutely could be predicted. all he seemed predicted. and all he seemed to do predicted. and all he seemed to telte— predicted. and all he seemed to telte-mttt— predicted. and all he seemed to do to mild pressure on do is to put a mild pressure on the— do is to put a mild pressure on the-retam— do is to put a mild pressure on the-return to- do is to put a mild pressure on the return to stormont. the dup to return to stormont. hat— the dup to return to stormont. hat-sart— the dup to return to stormont. but-said, this- the dup to return to stormont. but-said, this is- but as you've said, this is ahsetatetp— but as you've said, this is absolutely nothing to with absolutely nothing to do with werthem— absolutely nothing to do withi northern—about northern ireland. this is about eatttwattmp— northern ireland. this is about cultivating the— northern ireland. this is about cultivating the 70, a 40 million peepte— cultivating the 70, a 40 million peepte th— cultivating the 70, a 40 million peepte m the— cultivating the 70, a 40 million people in the united states who ttemtttp— people in the united states who ttemtttp as— people in the united states who identify as irish— people in the united states who

identify as irish americans . and identify as irish americans. and thts— identify as irish americans. and thts atwaps— identify as irish americans. and this always happens leading up to this always happens leading up te the— this always happens leading up to the caucuses— this always happens leading up to the caucuses for the in this the— to the caucuses for the in this case, the democratic presidential- case, the democratic presidential candidate . he is presidential candidate. he is stmptp— presidential candidate. he is stmptp there— presidential candidate. he is simply there to _ presidential candidate. he is simply there to try and appeal to simply there to try and appeal te that— simply there to try and appeal te that tehhp— simply there to try and appeal te that tehhp .— simply there to try and appeal to that lobby . and really, to that lobby. and really, tramttp— to that lobby. and really, tramttp .— to that lobby. and really, frankly , ireland, north and frankly, ireland, north and seath— frankly, ireland, north and south doesn't— frankly, ireland, north and south doesn't it doesn't matter. thts— south doesn't it doesn't matter. thts ts— south doesn't it doesn't matter. thts ts att— south doesn't it doesn't matter. this is all about— south doesn't it doesn't matter. this is all about getting votes in this is all about getting votes tm the— this is all about getting votes h the ash.— this is all about getting votes in the usa. and— this is all about getting votes in the usa. and of course, the hemeeratte— in the usa. and of course, the democratic tend _ in the usa. and of course, the democratic tend to vote democrats— democratic tend to vote democrats tend to vote for a pro—republican— democrats tend to vote for a pro—republican viewpoint. so theretere— pro—republican viewpoint. so theretere .— pro—republican viewpoint. so therefore , actually it's just therefore, actually it's just a epmteat— therefore, actually it's just a epmteat ae— therefore, actually it's just a cynical use of— therefore, actually it's just a cynical use of northern ireland for cynical use of northern ireland ter partp— cynical use of northern ireland for party political— cynical use of northern ireland for party political gain. and he eteartp— for party political gain. and he clearly refused— for party political gain. and he clearly refused to— for party political gain. and he clearly refused to where to have the tap — clearly refused to where to have the tap em — clearly refused to where to have the tap em hts— clearly refused to where to have the flag on his car— clearly refused to where to have the flag on his car because that weatt— the flag on his car because that weatt aase— the flag on his car because that would cause offence to many ttepahtteams. — would cause offence to many republicans. republicans in an htsh— republicans. republicans in an htsh semse— republicans. republicans in an irish sense in— republicans. republicans in an irish sense in the— republicans. republicans in an irish sense in the united states . wep— irish sense in the united states . hep — irish sense in the united states . hep hat— irish sense in the united states . wep amt pet— irish sense in the united states . yep and yet obama- irish sense in the united states . yep 'r: «haze “at: irish sense in the united states . yep r: “at: . yep and yet obama had no problem in doing it. final quick thought, if i may, jim. are we any closer to power sharing at stormont resuming ? no, stormont resuming? no, absolutely not. r:7 no, absolutely not. madeleine you have— absolutely not. madeleine you have a— absolutely not. madeleine you have a greater— absolutely not. madeleine you have a greater insight than mesh— have a greater insight than mest. the— have a greater insight than most. the reality is whether ettem— most. the reality is whether httem ame— most. the reality is whether biden came or— most. the reality is whether biden came or not. the dup are

ahsetatetp— biden came or not. the dup are absolutely right— biden came or not. the dup are absolutely right in— biden came or not. the dup are absolutely right in not retamtmp— absolutely right in not returning to- absolutely right in not returning to stormont as long as the preteeet— returning to stormont as long as the protocol and— returning to stormont as long as the protocol and the windsor tramewert— the protocol and the windsor framework hang— the protocol and the windsor framework hang over our heads the— framework hang over our heads the the— framework hang over our heads like the sword— framework hang over our heads like the sword of— framework hang over our heads like the sword of damocles, we stmptp— like the sword of damocles, we stmptp ammet— like the sword of damocles, we simply cannot allow northern retamt— simply cannot allow northern tretamt te— simply cannot allow northern ireland to be— simply cannot allow northern ireland to be become a sub eetemp— ireland to be become a sub eetemp et— ireland to be become a sub colony of the— ireland to be become a sub colony of the european union. we meat— colony of the european union. we mmeat rematm— colony of the european union. we cannot remain within the single market— cannot remain within the single market subject— cannot remain within the single market subject to— cannot remain within the single market subject to the european ceart— market subject to the european ceart et— market subject to the european court of justice.— market subject to the european court of justice. still within the— court of justice. still within the wet— court of justice. still within the vat regime— court of justice. still within the vat regime that is not aeeeptahte— the vat regime that is not acceptable and- the vat regime that is not acceptable and therefore we weatt— acceptable and therefore we weatt he — acceptable and therefore we would be mad— acceptable and therefore we would be mad to use the only tewerape— would be mad to use the only leverage that— would be mad to use the only leverage that we _ would be mad to use the only leverage that we have to set that— leverage that we have to set that astte — leverage that we have to set that aside and— leverage that we have to set that aside and meekly togafau amt— that aside and meekly togafau amt pe— that aside and meekly togafau amt pe hast— that aside and meekly togafau and go back into— that aside and meekly togafau and go back into stormont. this is and go back into stormont. this ts the— and go back into stormont. this ts the mest— and go back into stormont. this is the most important constitutional issue facing werthem— constitutional issue facing northern ireland since 1974 and we stmptp— northern ireland since 1974 and we simply cannot— northern ireland since 1974 and we simply cannot bow the knee on this we simply cannot bow the knee on thts partteatar— we simply cannot bow the knee on this particular occasion . no, i this particular occasion. no, i that— this particular occasion. no, i that peate— this particular occasion. no, i think you're right— this particular occasion. no, i think you're right. this particular occasion. no, i think you're right . think you're right. jim wells, thank— think you're right. jim wells, thank you very much indeed for joining us this evening and giving your reaction to that giving us your reaction to that exclusive gb news story. now, jim talked about diligent researchers and of course , we do researchers and of course, we do have diligent researchers at gb news. but this actually came to us through a viewer , ian, who us through a viewer, ian, who sent in those snaps, those thoughts , well done, you. we

thoughts, well done, you. we love you as an audience. if you send us in great stories like this, we will do our absolute best to do them justice. in a moment , best to do them justice. in a moment, we're going to talk about china. it's a remarkable diplomatic missions that it's been on. and liz truss's thoughts on china , which thoughts on china, which contrast hugely with rishi sunak as she spoke last night in washington, dc. is china getting close to invading taiwan? all of that in a moment on gb news, the people's.

channel so have gb news provided proof positive that biden is indeed anti british? some of your thoughts coming in. one viewer says this is so clear for all to see. biden can't stand us. he won't even recognise a part of our country dared . he says. more

our country dared. he says. more insults to the uk we should cease supporting the americans while this old fool is in office. deirdre we've got a relationship with the americans that goes back centuries . it's that goes back centuries. it's been through ups and downs. but you know what? pretty much since 1917, we have been the best of allies and sometimes the relationship is warm and close . relationship is warm and close. other times it goes into the fridge or the deep freeze. we're not going to break off with america just because. sleepy joe, is there another viewer says, struggling to know what the special relationship is . the special relationship is. exactly. another says , hopefully exactly. another says, hopefully we get trump next. the republicans are usually a much better friend to us brits. well, i tell you what, one thing for certain, donaldj . trump, whose certain, donald j. trump, whose mum, of course, was a scot, is very well inclined towards our country and he also warned the world about the risks that could be posed by the chinese communist party. and one of the

men i think that influenced trump in quite a big way, he'll denyit trump in quite a big way, he'll deny it obviously is a man called michael pillsbury, senior fellow for china strategy at the heritage foundation , john lydon heritage foundation, john lydon and author of the hundred year marathon and recently a pamphlet on winning the cold war. so i'm very, very pleased to be joined by china expert and researcher mike pillsbury. michael good afternoon to you and welcome to the program . thank you very the program. thank you very mash— the program. thank you very mash nigel-— the program. thank you very much, nigel. nice— the program. thank you very much, nigel. nice to- 3 thank you very much, nigel. nice to see you apath— much, nigel. nice to see you apatm . — much, nigel. nice to see you apatm . eeat— much, nigel. nice to see you again . good to— much, nigel. nice to see you again . good to see- much, nigel. nice to see you again . e: hrzrr' much, nigel. nice to see you- again . good to see you. now over again. good to see you. now over the course of the last 2 or 3 months, china have been engaged in the most astonishing diplomat activity. it starts, we hear a deal with afghanistan. we then hear there's a deal with brazil where for transactions they won't price in dollars anymore. they then get honduras to break their link with taiwan . and most their link with taiwan. and most remarkably , they managed to get remarkably, they managed to get i mean, the chinese president

managed to get the saudis and the iranians together . managed to get the saudis and the iranians together. in one room whilst at the same time playing all sorts of shadow attack games on taiwan. i believe michael , for some weeks believe michael, for some weeks that this is the biggest sort and most significant news story in the world. very few people seem to be talking about it. can you just, just tell me what are they up to? what is going on? and am i right to think that it's increasing in speed ? i it's increasing in speed? i think you're right. it , r: " :7 i think you're right. it is increasing— think you're right. it is increasing in- think you're right. it is increasing in speed. what's going— increasing in speed. what's temp em— increasing in speed. what's temp em ts— increasing in speed. what's going on is the— increasing in speed. what's going on is the chinese themselves— going on is the chinese themselves have put it is a kind of themselves have put it is a kind et steatthp— themselves have put it is a kind of stealthy approach to becoming the theta— of stealthy approach to becoming the global superpower. of stealthy approach to becoming the global superpower . they're the global superpower. they're not the global superpower. they're met exaettp— the global superpower. they're met exaettp th— the global superpower. they're not exactly in a— the global superpower. they're not exactly in a rush . they not exactly in a rush. they ettem— not exactly in a rush. they ettem tatt— not exactly in a rush. they often talk about the next 10 or 20 often talk about the next 10 or he pea — often talk about the next 10 or he pea se— often talk about the next 10 or 20 years. so it's— often talk about the next 10 or 20 years. so it's not not pereetwet— 20 years. so it's not not pereetwet hp— 20 years. so it's not not perceived by very many people that— perceived by very many people that chtma— perceived by very many people that china is— perceived by very many people that china is really doing much. chtma— that china is really doing much. chtma amt— that china is really doing much. china and many— that china is really doing much. china and many quarters. nigel is china and many quarters. nigel ts stttt— china and many quarters. nigel is still thought— china and many quarters. nigel is still thought of— china and many quarters. nigel is still thought of as a poor eeamtrp— is still thought of as a poor eeamtrp th— is still thought of as a poor country in some— is still thought of as a poor country in some sense. they eatttwate— country in some sense. they cultivate that— country in some sense. they cultivate that image of themselves.- cultivate that image of

themselves. they do not boast epemtp— themselves. they do not boast epemtp that— themselves. they do not boast epemtp that thep— themselves. they do not boast openly that they intend to lead the wertt. — openly that they intend to lead the world. their— openly that they intend to lead the world. their most recent epesstem— the world. their most recent expression. they— the world. their most recent expression. they have is called moving— expression. they have is called moving toward— expression. they have is called moving toward the centre stage amt— moving toward the centre stage and sometimes— moving toward the centre stage and sometimes they'll talk about chtmese— and sometimes they'll talk about chinese culture— and sometimes they'll talk about chinese culture or— and sometimes they'll talk about chinese culture or and confucius as as prewtttmp— chinese culture or and confucius as as prewtttmp a— chinese culture or and confucius as as providing a better world erter— as as providing a better world erter tham— as as providing a better world order than the— as as providing a better world order than the more predatory amara-aas— order than the more predatory americans. but— order than the more predatory americans. but it's usually tatte— americans. but it's usually tatte sahtte— americans. but it's usually quite subtle .— americans. but it's usually quite subtle . obviously, this is quite subtle. obviously, this is thts— quite subtle. obviously, this is thts happemet— quite subtle. obviously, this is this happened in— quite subtle. obviously, this is this happened in the 30 seconds wtth— this happened in the 30 seconds wtth atett— this happened in the 30 seconds with adolf hitler— this happened in the 30 seconds with adolf hitler hitler never epemtp— with adolf hitler hitler never epemtp sart— with adolf hitler hitler never openly said, i'm— with adolf hitler hitler never openly said, i'm going to invade hrttatm— openly said, i'm going to invade hrttatm rm— openly said, i'm going to invade britain. i'm going— openly said, i'm going to invade britain. i'm going to invade the sewtet— britain. i'm going to invade the sewtet hmtem— britain. i'm going to invade the soviet union. he— britain. i'm going to invade the soviet union. he talked about peae— soviet union. he talked about peace amt— soviet union. he talked about peace amt as— soviet union. he talked about peace. and as is— soviet union. he talked about peace. and as is well known , a peace. and as is well known, a lot peace. and as is well known, a tet et— peace. and as is well known, a tet et peepte— peace. and as is well known, a tet et peepte th— peace. and as is well known, a lot of people in both britain amt— lot of people in both britain amt ether— lot of people in both britain and other parts— lot of people in both britain and other parts of europe did not and other parts of europe did met seamt— and other parts of europe did not sound the— and other parts of europe did not sound the alarm against httter— not sound the alarm against httter. h— not sound the alarm against hitler. in fact,— not sound the alarm against hitler. in fact, the economist magahe— hitler. in fact, the economist maaghe te— hitler. in fact, the economist magazine, to its— hitler. in fact, the economist magazine, to its eternal shame, aset— magazine, to its eternal shame, aset te— magazine, to its eternal shame, aset te tate— magazine, to its eternal shame, used to take the— magazine, to its eternal shame, used to take the side of what thep— used to take the side of what thep eattet — used to take the side of what they called mr. _ used to take the side of what they called mr. hitler against what— they called mr. hitler against what thep— they called mr. hitler against what they thought was a tmesaar — what they thought was a dinosaur. winston churchill. so thts— dinosaur. winston churchill. so thts sterp— dinosaur. winston churchill. so thts sterp map— dinosaur. winston churchill. so this story may be— dinosaur. winston churchill. so this story may be repeating ttsett— this story may be repeating ttsett agah— this story may be repeating itself again .— this story may be repeating itself again . i— this story may be repeating itself again . i think actually, itself again. i think actually, wtehaet— itself again. i think actually, wtehaet .— itself again. i think actually, michael , you'll— itself again. i think actually, michael, you'll find that up amttt—

michael, you'll find that up amttt tatte— michael, you'll find that up until quite late— michael, you'll find that up until quite late in the 1930, mest— until quite late in the 1930, mest et— until quite late in the 1930, mest et the— until quite late in the 1930, most of the british press were perp— most of the british press were werp, perp— most of the british press were very, very uncritical . very, very uncritical. all of tar.— very, very uncritical. all of tar. httter— very, very uncritical. all of mr. hitler is— very, very uncritical. all of mr. hitler is it really fair of you to draw a comparison between president xi and that german leader of the 1930? i mean, isn't that aren't you going a bit too far with that ? it's not bit too far with that? it's not my view . i'm quoting chinese my view. i'm quoting chinese matertats— my view. i'm quoting chinese matertats .— my view. i'm quoting chinese materials. i've— my view. i'm quoting chinese materials . i've now- , i'm quoting chinese materials . i've now written materials. i've now written three— materials. i've now written three books— materials. i've now written three books based on chinese matertats— three books based on chinese materials. they— three books based on chinese materials. they themselves do not materials. they themselves do met see— materials. they themselves do not see hitler— materials. they themselves do not see hitler as— materials. they themselves do not see hitler as an evil person the— not see hitler as an evil person the wap— not see hitler as an evil person the wap the— not see hitler as an evil person the way the west— not see hitler as an evil person the way the west does is they ettem — the way the west does is they ettem tatt— the way the west does is they often talk about— the way the west does is they often talk about him as somebody who often talk about him as somebody whe mate— often talk about him as somebody who made mistakes— often talk about him as somebody who made mistakes by taking on teth— who made mistakes by taking on heth ttassta— who made mistakes by taking on both russia and— who made mistakes by taking on both russia and the west at the ttme— both russia and the west at the ttme. se— both russia and the west at the same time. so i'm— both russia and the west at the same time. so i'm not saying that— same time. so i'm not saying that chtma-s— same time. so i'm not saying that china's like— same time. so i'm not saying that china's like germany. i'm saptmg— that china's like germany. i'm saptmg that— that china's like germany. i'm saying that technique of masking pear— saying that technique of masking pear amhtttem— saying that technique of masking your ambition has— saying that technique of masking your ambition has been widely aset— your ambition has been widely aset tm— your ambition has been widely used in world— your ambition has been widely used in world history and the chtmese— used in world history and the chtmese are— used in world history and the chinese are drawing on that. in tast— chinese are drawing on that. in fact, thep— chinese are drawing on that. in rag, thep sap— chinese are drawing on that. in fact, they say their— chinese are drawing on that. in fact, they say their own trattttem— fact, they say their own tradition is— fact, they say their own tradition is that when you want to tradition is that when you want te ewerthrew— tradition is that when you want to overthrow an— tradition is that when you want to overthrow an old dynasty, one that-s— to overthrow an old dynasty, one that-s tastet— to overthrow an old dynasty, one that's lasted 2— to overthrow an old dynasty, one that's lasted 2 or— to overthrow an old dynasty, one that's lasted 2 or 300 years, you— that's lasted 2 or 300 years, pea mast— that's lasted 2 or 300 years, you must never— that's lasted 2 or 300 years, you must never alert the old

hegemem— you must never alert the old hegemem te— you must never alert the old hegemon to your— you must never alert the old hegemon to your ambition. you mast— hegemon to your ambition. you mast erter— hegemon to your ambition. you must offer friendship, cooperation- must offer friendship, cooperation . and only in the cooperation. and only in the tast— cooperation. and only in the last moment— cooperation. and only in the last moment do— cooperation. and only in the last moment do you assume the tpmastp— last moment do you assume the new dynasty yourself. this happemet— new dynasty yourself. this happemet sh— new dynasty yourself. this happened six times in chinese htsterp— happened six times in chinese htsterp .— happened six times in chinese htsterp . amt— happened six times in chinese history , and xi— happened six times in chinese history , and xi jinping talks history, and xi jinping talks a lot history, and xi jinping talks a tet aheat— history, and xi jinping talks a tet aheat tt— history, and xi jinping talks a lot about it .— history, and xi jinping talks a lot about it . this— history, and xi jinping talks a lot about it . this is not lot about it. this is not wtehaet— lot about it. this is not michael pillsbury saying that chtma— michael pillsbury saying that china thinks— michael pillsbury saying that china thinks about overthrowing the ett— china thinks about overthrowing the ett tpmastp— china thinks about overthrowing the old dynasty .— china thinks about overthrowing the old dynasty . xi china thinks about overthrowing the old dynasty. xi jinping tregaemttp— the old dynasty. xi jinping frequently talks about examples of frequently talks about examples et thts. — frequently talks about examples et thts. the— frequently talks about examples of this. the problem is he does it of this. the problem is he does tt tm— of this. the problem is he does tt h a— of this. the problem is he does tt h a perp— of this. the problem is he does it in a very subtle— of this. the problem is he does it in a very subtle way , using it in a very subtle way, using trewerhs— it in a very subtle way, using proverbs that— it in a very subtle way, using proverbs that we _ it in a very subtle way, using proverbs that we in the west tea-t— proverbs that we in the west tem-t reattp— proverbs that we in the west don't really understand. so we're not quite— don't really understand. so we're not quite sure what he's reteremetmg— we're not quite sure what he's referencing when— we're not quite sure what he's referencing when he says the great— referencing when he says the great tamg— referencing when he says the great tang dynasty or the han hpmastp— great tang dynasty or the han dynasty. there's— great tang dynasty or the han dynasty. there's a need for a geet— dynasty. there's a need for a geet r— dynasty. there's a need for a geet t that— dynasty. there's a need for a geet t that .— dynasty. there's a need for a good i think , a— dynasty. there's a need for a good i think , a good set of good i think, a good set of gaetattems— good i think, a good set of quotations of— good i think, a good set of quotations of what xi jinping is aetaattp— quotations of what xi jinping is aetaattp saptmg— quotations of what xi jinping is actually saying about his long term — actually saying about his long term geats. — actually saying about his long term goals. but— actually saying about his long term goals. but he's not saying tm — term goals. but he's not saying rm getmg— term goals. but he's not saying rm getmg te— term goals. but he's not saying i'm going to take— term goals. but he's not saying i'm going to take over the wett— i'm going to take over the wertt. tetap.— i'm going to take over the world. okay. now the cold war, wtmmtmg— world. okay. now the cold war, wtmmtmg the— world. okay. now the cold war, winning the cold— world. okay. now the cold war, winning the cold war. at; winning the cold war. tell us, wtehaet— winning the cold war. tell us, michael pillsbury , how do we in michael pillsbury, how do we in the west, how do we win the cold war with china ? well, what war with china? well, what you're referring to is a new

heritage foundation report that has 100 specific recommendations about how to win the cold war. some of them are we have to run taster— some of them are we have to run taster .— some of them are we have to run taster . we-we— some of them are we have to run faster . we've got— some of them are we have to run faster . we've got to— some of them are we have to run faster . we've got to get our own faster. we've got to get our own eememp— faster. we've got to get our own eememp at— faster. we've got to get our own eememp at a— faster. we've got to get our own economy at a faster— faster. we've got to get our own economy at a faster growth rate. ethers— economy at a faster growth rate. others are— economy at a faster growth rate. others are stop— economy at a faster growth rate. others are stop aiding china. there-s— others are stop aiding china. there-s a— others are stop aiding china. there's a fairly— others are stop aiding china. there's a fairly massive program in there's a fairly massive program tm ptaee— there's a fairly massive program tm ptaee ter— there's a fairly massive program in place for more— there's a fairly massive program in place for more than 30 years, tmetatet— in place for more than 30 years, included ronald— in place for more than 30 years, included ronald reagan, by the way,— included ronald reagan, by the wap, setttmg— included ronald reagan, by the way, selling weapons to china, setttmg— way, selling weapons to china, selling torpedoes— way, selling weapons to china, selling torpedoes , for example, selling torpedoes, for example, to selling torpedoes, for example, te chtmese— selling torpedoes, for example, to chinese submarines . so we to chinese submarines. so we have— to chinese submarines. so we have met— to chinese submarines. so we have not really— to chinese submarines. so we have not really changed all thts.— have not really changed all thts. we— have not really changed all this. we stopped the weapons saest — this. we stopped the weapons saest hat— this. we stopped the weapons sates hat tm— this. we stopped the weapons sales. but in terms of high teehmetegp— sales. but in terms of high technology, in— sales. but in terms of high technology, in terms of increased— technology, in terms of increased our- technology, in terms of increased our investment in chtma— increased our investment in china, increasing trade with chtma— china, increasing trade with chtma thts— china, increasing trade with china, this is— china, increasing trade with china, this is all going on rtght— china, this is all going on rtght ew— china, this is all going on right now, nigel. it's not it's met— right now, nigel. it's not it's met as— right now, nigel. it's not it's not as though _ right now, nigel. it's not it's not as though the whole country in not as though the whole country tm hmertea— not as though the whole country in america thinks— not as though the whole country in america thinks china is an ememp— in america thinks china is an ememp .— in america thinks china is an ememp . seme— in america thinks china is an enemy . some do.- in america thinks china is an enemy. some do. but our policy eehtmaest— enemy. some do. but our policy emtmaest te— enemy. some do. but our policy continues to be— enemy. some do. but our policy continues to be consistent with the tast— continues to be consistent with the tast eh— continues to be consistent with the tast he er— continues to be consistent with the last 30 or 40— continues to be consistent with the last 30 or 40 years. and by the— the last 30 or 40 years. and by the wap— the last 30 or 40 years. and by the wap .— the last 30 or 40 years. and by the wap , ree— the last 30 or 40 years. and by the way , joe biden— the last 30 or 40 years. and by the way , joe biden was part of the way, joe biden was part of that— the way, joe biden was part of that ett— the way, joe biden was part of that old policy. _ the way, joe biden was part of that old policy. so for him to hetp— that old policy. so for him to hetp hatt— that old policy. so for him to hetp hattt ap— that old policy. so for him to help build up china is part of his help build up china is part of hts past— help build up china is part of his past history. _ help build up china is part of his past history. so the hundred recommended— his past history. so the hundred recommended actions involve eatttmg— recommended actions involve eatttmg ett— recommended actions involve cutting off technology to china,

hetmg— cutting off technology to china, hetmg mee— cutting off technology to china, being more cautious about their tmttaemee— being more cautious about their influence operations , actions influence operations, actions tmstte— influence operations, actions tmstte ear— influence operations, actions inside our country and in tarepe. — inside our country and in tarepe. rt-s— inside our country and in europe. it's quite a long list. twe— europe. it's quite a long list. twe atreatp— europe. it's quite a long list. i've already mailed you a copy sheatt— i've already mailed you a copy sheatt he— i've already mailed you a copy should be coming— i've already mailed you a copy should be coming to you in the meat— should be coming to you in the meat twe— should be coming to you in the meat twe taps. — should be coming to you in the next two days. i— should be coming to you in the next two days. i know, i know. i know. i know. i know. and by the way, you know, we've got many here in the british establishment been on establishment that have been on the china train and shown no great get off it great willingness to get off it . a final quick thought, if i may , michael. liz in may, michael. liz truss, in a speech last night at heritage suggested that china invading taiwan could happen far more quickly than anybody believes. your thoughts now? she's not alone . a number— your thoughts now? she's not alone . a number of- /rzr. ” g 7 she's not alone . a number of senior alone. a number of senior hmerteam— alone. a number of senior american military officers have etther— american military officers have either written _ american military officers have either written letters to their treeps— either written letters to their treeps er— either written letters to their own troops or talked in public aheat— own troops or talked in public aheat hew— own troops or talked in public about how the— own troops or talked in public about how the balance of power has— about how the balance of power has ehamget. — about how the balance of power has changed. they— about how the balance of power has changed. they used to be no hepe— has changed. they used to be no hepe that— has changed. they used to be no hope that china— has changed. they used to be no hope that china could take over tatwam— hope that china could take over tatwam .— hope that china could take over tatwam . that— hope that china could take over taiwan . that is— hope that china could take over taiwan . that is all— hope that china could take over taiwan . that is all changed. so taiwan. that is all changed. so i taiwan. that is all changed. so t that— taiwan. that is all changed. so that she-s— taiwan. that is all changed. so i think she's quite— taiwan. that is all changed. so i think she's quite she's quite tamtttar— i think she's quite she's quite familiar with— i think she's quite she's quite familiar with american views as her speech— familiar with american views as her speech showed. and she's

ptettmg— her speech showed. and she's ptettmg ap— her speech showed. and she's ptettmg ap em— her speech showed. and she's picking up on the— her speech showed. and she's picking up on the sense of threat— picking up on the sense of threat that— picking up on the sense of threat that we _ picking up on the sense of threat that we could face a mttttarp— threat that we could face a military challenge in taiwan in the area— military challenge in taiwan in the near future— military challenge in taiwan in the near future .— military challenge in taiwan in the near future . the one we're the near future. the one we're met— the near future. the one we're met reatp— the near future. the one we're met reatp ter. — the near future. the one we're not ready for. ht , not ready for. michael pillsbury, absolute pleasure to have you on the program. thank you very much indeed . thank you. you very much indeed. thank you. well, james heal is diary editor of the spectator. james liz truss, back in action. but on the other side of the pond at heritage erg, the margaret thatcher centre that's established there , a lot of established there, a lot of things she talked about. i was fascinated by. she basically said that joe biden was part of the conspiracy against her and kwasi kwarteng because they dared to talk about rolling back the frontiers of the state and reducing taxation pretty hard words. or does it leave you to writing about her and the conservative movement thinking she looks a little bit embittered ? well, i think after embittered? well, i think after atew— embittered? well, i think after atew memths— embittered? well, i think after a few months away— embittered? well, i think after a few months away ,- rz; ”rzz;r:7’ well, i think after a few months away , sort of a few months away, sort of retteettmg— a few months away, sort of reflecting on _ a few months away, sort of reflecting on not all. liz reflecting on not at all. liz trass— reflecting on not at all. liz trass ts— reflecting on not at all. liz truss is back. _ reflecting on not at all. liz truss is back. she's doing a seemt— truss is back. she's doing a seemt htg— truss is back. she's doing a second big foreign speech. she did

second big foreign speech. she ttt—tast- second big foreign speech. she did—last month. did one in japan last month teeastmg— did one in japan last month focusing—these. focusing on some of these themes. — focusing on some of these themes. .this-onl themes. and this one on wetmestap— themes. and this one on wednesday about half an themes. and this one on- wednesday-about half an hour wednesday was about half an hour temg— long, fairly wide ranging, tatttmg— long, fairly wide ranging,j talking—that long, fairly wide ranging,- talking_that went talking about things that went on talking about things that went eat—m- talking about things that went eat—m ettteel talking about things that went| on_in office, but on when she was in office, but atse—wetti also the china threat as well. on also the china threat as well. chm-aheat- also the china threat as well. on-about biden- also the china threat as well. on-about biden ,. also the china threat as well. on about biden , of on the point about biden, of e-aserts- on the point about biden, of course,-it's quite. course, i mean, it's quite extraordinary. _ course, i mean, it's quite- extraordinary. -october extraordinary. around october tast—tm- extraordinary. around october tast—tm the- last year, we was in the mttterms— last year, we was in the- midterms_using midterms and he was using her hasteattp— midterms and he was using her hasteattp-the- midterms and he was using her basically the leader basically criticising the leader of basically criticising the leader et the — basically criticising the leader et the ash-s— basically criticising the leader of the usa's main ally, britain . amt— of the usa's main ally, britain . amt saptmg— of the usa's main ally, britain , and saying that— of the usa's main ally, britain , and saying that this was sort of , and saying that this was sort et eetee— , and saying that this was sort of voodoo economics and sort of ertttetstmg— of voodoo economics and sort of ertttetstmg her— of voodoo economics and sort of criticising her £0.45— of voodoo economics and sort of criticising her £0.45 tax cut. amt— criticising her £0.45 tax cut. amt astmg— criticising her £0.45 tax cut. amt astmg tt— criticising her £0.45 tax cut. and using it for— criticising her £0.45 tax cut. and using it for domestic petttteat— and using it for domestic political reasons. i think a amet— political reasons. i think a number-tories,- political reasons. i think a number tories, just sort number of tories, not just sort of number of tories, not just sort et—rather- number of tories, not just sort| of_rather appalled of trusts, were rather appalled by of trusts, were rather appalled hp—thtmt- of trusts, were rather appalled hp—thtmt pea- of trusts, were rather appalled. by _think you-see by that. and i think you can see semelthese— by that. and i think you can see some those comments some of those comments coming the— some of those comments coming tte—mew- some of those comments coming tte—mew .- some of those comments coming tte—mew . r- like with biden's trip now, i theaght— like with biden's trip now, i theaght tt— like with biden's trip now, i thought it was— like with biden's trip now, i thought it was really, really tmteresttmg— thought it was really, really interesting and— thought it was really, really interesting and clearly she's met— interesting and clearly she's met-ap— interesting and clearly she's met-ap .— interesting and clearly she's met-ap . ts— interesting and clearly she's not-up , is she? - interesting and clearly she's not up , is she? not giving up, is she? she hash-t— not giving up, is she? she hasn't changed— not giving up, is she? she hasn't changed her mind at all. i mean, when she was first elected i would elected to politics, i would never her as never have put her down as a eurosceptic free marketeer. so it's remarkable what can happen on china. she was very, very strong in that speech. i just mentioned it to michael pillsbury thinking that the threat to taiwan could be pretty imminent , threat to taiwan could be pretty imminent, making clear imminent, making it clear that china is a threat. now this is

in direct contrast to the positioning that prime minister sunak has got us with china, where at one point he was saying china could be a threat, but then he wanted votes from party members . then he wanted votes from party members. there's a bit of a rift here, isn't there? i think that there-s— here, isn't there? i think that there's definitely— here, isn't there? i think that there's definitely a- ”rzz; . ”rzz;7’ i think that there's definitely a key ttwtttmg— there's definitely a key dividing line. we saw that tarrag— dividing line. we saw that during summer's leadership during last summer's leadership eteettem. — during last summer's leadership eteettem. r— during last summer's leadership election. i think— during last summer's leadership election. i think liz truss election. i think for liz truss r_in- election. i think for liz truss ,_p. gattel election. i think for liz truss. ,_p. gatte htaet , she sees things in quite black amt—.— , she sees things in quite black amt—. hew- , she sees things in quite black and_. now that- , she sees things in quite blacki and_. now that can , she sees things in quite black. and_. now that can be and white terms. now that can be and white terms. now that can be a-tm— and white terms. now that can be a-tm etttee— and white terms. now that can be a-tm ettteeltt- a limitation in office, but it atse— also can be an enormous strength.— also can be an enormous. strength—she also can be an enormous- strength._she was strength. and of course she was in strength. and of course she was tm—aheat- strength. and of course she was tm—aheat thtsl strength. and of course she wasj in_about this in in america talking about this in the set— in america talking about this in the sert et— in america talking about this in the sort of light— in america talking about this in the sort of light of— in america talking about this in the sort of light of the cold pr..— the sort of light of the cold war,-post—cold- the sort of light of the cold war, post—cold peace war, the post—cold war peace ttwttemt— war, the post—cold war peace dividend,-course,- war, the post—cold war peace dividend, course, what dividend, and of course, what thateher— dividend, and of course, what thatcher—have. dividend, and of course, what. thatcher—have done dividend, and of course, what thatreagan have done dividend, and of course, what thatreagan of have done dividend, and of course, what thatreagan of course,iave done dividend, and of course, what thatreagan of course, saw done dividend, and of course, what that reagan of course, saw thee and reagan of course, saw the sett— and reagan of course, saw the cett war— and reagan of course, saw the cett war tm— and reagan of course, saw the cold war in very— and reagan of course, saw the cold war in very binary terms, amt—the- cold war in very binary terms, amt—the ett- and he referred to the evil emptre. — and he referred to the evil empire. -think- and he referred to the evil empire. think nusrat is empire. and i think nusrat is reattp— empire. and i think nusrat is reatp—et- empire. and i think nusrat is really—of sound really trying to sort of sound the—here- really trying to sort of sound the—here and- really trying to sort of soundi the—here and raise the alarm bell here and raise eemeemst-t— the alarm bell here and raise concerns-it. i- the alarm bell here and raise concerns it. i think rishi concerns about it. i think rishi samat— concerns about it. i think rishi samat tees— concerns about it. i think rishi sunak does sort— concerns about it. i think rishi sunak does sort take the sunak does sort of take the threat— sunak does sort of take the threat-seriously.- sunak does sort of take the threat seriously. he threat of china seriously. he teesm-t— threat of china seriously. he doesn't—some. threat of china seriously. he| doesn't—some of threat of china seriously. he- doesn't_some of the threat of china seriously. he doesn hawks some of the threat of china seriously. he doesn hawks in some of the threat of china seriously. he doesn hawks in his some of the threat of china seriously. he doesn hawks in his party; of the threat of china seriously. he doesn hawks in his party would; china hawks in his party would the.— china hawks in his party would tttelthere— china hawks in his party would like..there.a_ china hawks in his party would like. there a divide like. so there is a divide there.— like. so there is a divide there-sam- like. so there is a divide there. can point like. so there is a divide. there.-can point at there. but you can point at thtmgs— there. but you can point at things you things like the aukus deal. you teet—sertl things like the aukus deal. you teet—sert eti look at more funding for sort of tramtartm— look at more funding for sort of mandarin—also- look at more funding for sort ofi mandarin—also talk mandarin lessons. you also talk aheat— about things like the trans—pacific partnership. about things like the— trans—pacific partnership. to be tat.— trans—pacific partnership. to be tart-wtth— trans—pacific partnership. to be fair,-aukus-was- trans—pacific partnership. to be fair, aukus was signed fair, the aukus deal was signed before course, fair, the aukus deal was signed before minister, course, fair, the aukus deal was signed before minister, carrerse, fair, the aukus deal was signed before minister, carry one, prime minister, you carry on with and

with that commitment and i understand but also understand that. but also looking understand that. but also. looking-trans—pacific looking at the trans—pacific hartmershtp— looking at the trans—pacific partnership, a _ looking at the trans—pacific partnership, a more funding looking at the trans—pacific pardefence, a more funding looking at the trans—pacific pardefence, a therea funding looking at the trans—pacific pardefence, a therea faniing for defence, but there is an tssae—tel for defence, but there is an. tssae—te ge issue and it's not going to go awap— issue and it's not going to go away-soon. and- issue and it's not going to go away soon. and what is away anytime soon. and what is tmteresttmg— away anytime soon. and what is interesting-that- interesting, nigel, is that it's not interesting, nigel, is that it's met-et— interesting, nigel, is that it's met-er tte- interesting, nigel, is that it's not-of liz truss- not just sort of liz truss and sert— not just sort of liz truss and sert et— not just sort of liz truss and sert et the— not just sort of liz truss and sort of the truss— not just sort of liz truss and sort of the truss faction. sort of the truss like faction. ethers— sort of the truss like faction. others—concernsl sort of the truss like faction.- others_concerns too. others have these concerns too. amt— others have these concerns too. amt-at— others have these concerns too. amt-at what- others have these concerns too. and at what michael and you look at what michael sewe— and you look at what michael eete—gavel and you look at what michael eete—gave ai gove said in february, gave a big— big speech at onward and he tattet— big speech at onward and he talked about— big speech at onward and he talked about-we- talked about how we have hasteattp— talked about how we have basically allowed to basically allowed the chinese to tate— basically allowed the chinese to take—capitalist- take over use the capitalist spstem — take over use the capitalist system . advance - take over use the capitalist system advance own take over use the capitalist- system . advance -own aims system to advance their own aims and system to advance their own aims amt se— system to advance their own aims amt se r— system to advance their own aims amt se t that— system to advance their own aims and so i think this— system to advance their own aims and so i think this is going to be and so i think this is going to he a— and so i think this is going to he a tep— and so i think this is going to be a key dividing— and so i think this is going to be a key dividing in the be a key dividing line in the conservative— be a key dividing line in the conservative party the years conservative party for the years to conservative party for the years te—et— conservative party for the years te—et earse- conservative party for the years to_of course, it. conservative party for the years. to_of course, it was to come. well, of course, it was david george osborne david cameron and george osborne are future. are the big new bright future. and johnson , a and then boris johnson, a self—declared sinophile . and he self—declared sinophile. and he was quite happy, you know , for was quite happy, you know, for huawei to come into the 5g network. so i think the splits are there and quite real. now back to truss and truss sites, as them . how many as you call them. how many truss sites there sites are there in the parliamentary conservative party? ithink parliamentary conservative party? i think there's a group of party? i think there's a group et aheat— party? i think there's a group et aheat ho— party? i think there's a group of about 40-in- party? i think there's a group of about 40-in the- of about 40 or so in the conservative,— of about 40 or so in the conservative, that. yeah conservative, is that. yeah hasteattp— conservative, is that. yeah. basically,_bunch conservative, is that. yeah- basically,_bunch of basically, you know, a bunch of peepte—et- basically, you know, a bunch ofj peepte—et-et people who are sort of some of them — people who are sort of some of them isert— people who are sort of some of them .sortlolder- them are sort of older thatcherites- them are sort of older thatcherites been them are sort of older- thatcherites-been around them are sort of older- thaththe es-been around them are sort of older thaththe es seconds.| around them are sort of older thaththe es seconds. othersi since the 80 seconds. others are peamger—werpl younger ones who sort of very mash— younger ones who sort of very mash-tht— younger ones who sort of very much-kind of- younger ones who sort of very much kind of ideological much in her kind of ideological tarther— much in her kind of ideological rather-hetmg- much in her kind of ideological. further-being-sort much in her kind of ideological fuiministers, being sort much in her kind of ideological fuiministers, someeing sort much in her kind of ideological fuiministers, some ofg sort much in her kind of ideological fuiministers, some of them sort of ministers, some of them persemattp—sei

personally loyal to her. so aheat—ho- personally loyal to her. so about—40 ori personally loyal to her. so. about—40 or so, about sort of 30 or 40 or so, hat— about sort of 30 or 40 or so, hat-seare— about sort of 30 or 40 or so, but course, crucially, that but of course, crucially, that is but of course, crucially, that ts—mamher- but of course, crucially, thati is_number needed but of course, crucially, that- is_number needed to is the sort of number needed to tht— is the sort of number needed to kind-rebellion- is the sort of number needed to kind-rebellion over- is the sort of number needed to kind rebellion over the kind of get a rebellion over the the.— kind of get a rebellion over the the—at— kind of get a rebellion over the the—at sert- kind of get a rebellion over the line._at sort of- line. if you look at sort of mar-emp— line. if you look at sort of materttp—et- line. if you look at sort of- majority—ofiswing majority of 70, sort of 35 swing tes — majority of 70, sort of 35 swing tes -he — majority of 70, sort of 35 swing votes. be interesting votes. so it'll be interesting to votes. so it'll be interesting te-ttmt— votes. so it'll be interesting te-ttmt et— votes. so it'll be interesting to kind of pressures to see the kind of pressures thep— to see the kind of pressures thep-tmt— to see the kind of pressures thep-amt r— to see the kind of pressures they-and i think- to see the kind of pressures. they-and i think-saw to see the kind of pressures- they-and i think-saw a they exert. and i think we saw a bit they exert. and i think we saw a httlthat— they exert. and i think we saw a httlthatlthe— they exert. and i think we saw a bit-thatlthe run— they exert. and i think we saw a bit-thatlthe run up- they exert. and i think we saw a bit that the run up to the bit of that in the run up to the hatget— bit of that in the run up to the budget corporation budget with the corporation tax rise budget with the corporation tax —the - budget with the corporation tax rise _the letters i rise and some of the letters that— rise and some of the letters that wee— rise and some of the letters that were going— rise and some of the letters that were going coordinated that were going in coordinated aeamt— that were going in coordinatedi that were going in coordinated around personally some that were going in coordinated around personally loyal some that were going in coordinated around personally loyal totme that were going in coordinated around personally loyal to her. who are personally loyal to her. she— who are personally loyal to her. she hat— who are personally loyal to her. she hat a.— who are personally loyal to her. she had a,-know,_ who are personally loyal to her. she had a,-know, a- who are personally loyal to her. she had a,-know, a very- she had a, you know, a very humiliating about as she had a, you know, a very humil days| about as she had a, you know, a very humil days as about as she had a, you know, a very humildays as brian about as she had a, you know, a very humildays as brian clough as many days as brian clough managed bang on actually. managed leeds bang on actually. and it was a humiliating end . and it was a humiliating end. and it was a humiliating end. and i wasn't sure she was up to the job. but i have to say, with every week that goes by, i personally rather warm to what liz truss is doing and what she's saying . and i think it's she's saying. and i think it's really important that this debate is out there. what is the future? how do you see the future? how do you see the future for liz truss? i think that she is now— future for liz truss? i think that she is now left- 7 i think that she is now left office arter— that she is now left office atter tem— that she is now left office after ten years- that she is now left office after ten years there and is tree— after ten years there and is tree trem — after ten years there and is free from ministerial constraints. - free from ministerial constraints. she is someone whe-s— constraints. she is someone whe-s atwaps— constraints. she is someone who's always been incredibly emergette— who's always been incredibly energetic. she _ who's always been incredibly energetic. she was a backbenchen energetic. she was a backbencher, she was a great pamphteteea— backbencher, she was a great pamphleteer, loves ideas, pamphleteer, she loves ideas, pettetes— pamphleteer, she loves ideas, pettetes .— pamphleteer, she loves ideas, pettetes . r— pamphleteer, she loves ideas, policies . i think— pamphleteer, she loves ideas, policies . i think she's going to

policies. i think she's going to threw— policies. i think she's going to throw herself— policies. i think she's going to throw herself into— policies. i think she's going to throw herself into the economic amt— and foreign policy debate. i that—ts- and foreign policy debate. i think—is that. think the concern is that i that— think the concern is that i that that— think the concern is that i think that she— think the concern is that i think that she has much of think that she has much more of a—e teretgm- a case probably on foreign attatrs— a case probably on foreign affairs-china.- a case probably on foreign affairs china. know, affairs and china. you know, she she—heeretarp- affairs and china. you know, she she secretary called she was foreign secretary called the-thwastem— she was foreign secretary called the - invasion before - she was foreign secretary called the invasion before what the russian invasion before what was the russian invasion before what getmg— the russian invasion before what getmg te— the russian invasion before what was going to happen. i think there-s— was going to happen. i think there-s-et— was going to happen. i thinki there's-of-who'd there's a lot of people who'd sty,— there's a lot of people who'd sap-thew.— there's a lot of people who'd sap-thew-get- there's a lot of people who'd say, know, got the say, you know, she's got the rtght— say, you know, she's got the right messaging— say, you know, she's got the right messaging on that. the tanger— right messaging on that. the tamger-she— right messaging on that. the danger-she the- right messaging on that. the danger she the right danger is, is she the right messenger as danger is, is she the right mes say, ier as danger is, is she the right messay, it as danger is, is she the right mes say, it was as danger is, is she the right messay, it was quite as you say, it was quite humiliating. it you say, it was quite- humiliating. it-damaged, humiliating. it was damaged, it was—se— humiliating. it was damaged, it was—he r— humiliating. it was damaged, it was—so i think- humiliating. it was damaged, it was so i think perhaps was damaging. so i think perhaps you might have more success in tht— you might have more success in ttmt—pettep- kind of the foreign policy sphere— kind of the foreign policy- sphere _economics sphere rather than economics meeessarttp. — sphere rather than economics. necessarily. _thank sphere rather than economics. nectveryily. _thank sphere rather than economics nect ily. :: sphere rather than economics necccqily. :: sphere rather than economics nect ily. :: sphere rather than economics nect zg ily. :: {.c�*“ you very much indeed. all i can say i think she is a really say is i think she is a really rather welcome voice on these things. who knows, she could even conservative even persuade the conservative party to become slightly more conservative. kyiv no, i doubt that.in conservative. kyiv no, i doubt that. in a moment. potholes. yes. north south yes. there's a north south divide now on potholes . but i'll divide now on potholes. but i'll tell you what i've had family members had tires break over the course of the last couple of weeks, and that's in the south. if bad here, goodness if it's that bad here, goodness knows it must be like knows what it must be like in lancashire yorkshire. and knows what it must be like in lan be hire yorkshire. and knows what it must be like in lanbe joined yorkshire. and knows what it must be like in lanbe joined inyorkshire. and knows what it must be like in lan be joined inyo momentrnd knows what it must be like in lan be joined inyo moment by i'll be joined in a moment by mr. pothole himself , a i'll be joined in a moment by mr. pothole himself, a man whose tenure obsession to improve our roads has a little bit further to run .

well this really is the what the farage moment. i thought the potholes in the south of england have become absolutely in tolerable in terms of burst tires and damage to wheels. i mean, so bad that rod stewart , mean, so bad that rod stewart, you know, living just north of london, actually went out with a gang of people and mended potholes himself . but a report potholes himself. but a report out says that it's even worse in the north of england. i can't even imagine how bad that might be. well, one man no question about it, mark morrell is mr. pothole, and he joins me now from brackley in north hamptonshire. mark, i know you spent a decade, you know , spent a decade, you know, telling this story and trying to wake local and national government up to how bad it is. but is it really that much worse

in the north of england than it is here in the south? i think, yeah. i is here in the south? i think, yeah . i think the further north yeah. i think the further north you— yeah. i think the further north you 90,— yeah. i think the further north pea ge. the— yeah. i think the further north you go, the worse— yeah. i think the further north you go, the worse it- «mgr i think the further north you go, the worse it gets. i mean, glasgow— you go, the worse it gets. i mean, glasgow has got lethal teteets— mean, glasgow has got lethal teteets hat— mean, glasgow has got lethal defects, but in— mean, glasgow has got lethal defects, but in the north of mgame— defects, but in the north of tmgtamt. pes— defects, but in the north of tmgtamt. pes .— defects, but in the north of england, yes , some of those england, yes, some of those aathertttes— england, yes, some of those authorities have— england, yes, some of those authorities have got tremendous prehtems— authorities have got tremendous prehtems. hat— authorities have got tremendous problems. but it— authorities have got tremendous problems. but it is— authorities have got tremendous problems. but it is a national prehtem. — problems. but it is a national prehtem. vea— problems. but it is a national problem. you mentioned about the heath— problem. you mentioned about the seath .— problem. you mentioned about the seath . teat-s— problem. you mentioned about the south , kent's got— problem. you mentioned about the south , kent's got a— problem. you mentioned about the south , kent's got a £600 million south, kent's got a £600 million reat— south, kent's got a £600 million road maintenance— south, kent's got a £600 million road maintenance backlog. so heme— road maintenance backlog. so hemee thet— road maintenance backlog. so hence their roads— road maintenance backlog. so hence their roads are falling to pteees. — hence their roads are falling to pteees. vea— hence their roads are falling to pieces. you know,— hence their roads are falling to pieces. you know, but in terms of pieces. you know, but in terms et the— pieces. you know, but in terms et the seate— pieces. you know, but in terms et the state .— pieces. you know, but in terms of the scale , the— pieces. you know, but in terms of the scale , the north does of the scale, the north does seem somewhat— of the scale, the north does seem somewhat to suffer far more . hat— seem somewhat to suffer far more . hat the— seem somewhat to suffer far more . but the chancellor— seem somewhat to suffer far more . but the chancellor in- seem somewhat to suffer far more . but the chancellor in the- . but the chancellor in the budget said he was going to give us all a big helping hand because the amount of money from central government going out around the country to aid deaung around the country to aid dealing with potholes is going up from 500 million to 700 million. but i guess what you're saying, thinking about the kent numbers is that this doesn't even scratch the surface of the problem. it's even scratch the surface of the problem . it's like peeing in the

problem. it's like peeing in the wtget— problem. it's like peeing in the sea. nigel, there's— problem. it's like peeing in the sea. nigel, there's a— it's like peeing in the sea. nigel, there's a £14 httttem— sea. nigel, there's a £14 billion backlog in carriageway maintenance— billion backlog in carriageway maintenance in— billion backlog in carriageway maintenance in england and wates.— maintenance in england and wates. what— maintenance in england and wales. what they don't tell you is wales. what they don't tell you ts thep— wales. what they don't tell you ts thep eat— wales. what they don't tell you is they cut £400— wales. what they don't tell you is they cut £400 million last pear— is they cut £400 million last pear amt— is they cut £400 million last pear amt the— is they cut £400 million last year and the year— is they cut £400 million last year and the year before and them— year and the year before and them thts— year and the year before and then this new— year and the year before and then this new financial year trem— then this new financial year trem the— then this new financial year from the general mode maintenance- from the general mode maintenance budget so £1.2 httttem— maintenance budget so £1.2 httttem eat— maintenance budget so £1.2 billion cut and— maintenance budget so £1.2 billion cut and they give £200 mttttem— billion cut and they give £200 million back— billion cut and they give £200 million back big— billion cut and they give £200 million back big money to you amt— million back big money to you amt me— million back big money to you amt hat— million back big money to you and me. but you— million back big money to you and me. but you know, it shows what-s— and me. but you know, it shows what-s happemtmg— and me. but you know, it shows what's happening and all over thts— what's happening and all over thts thep— what's happening and all over thts thep wtt— what's happening and all over this they will come out. we're spemttmg— this they will come out. we're spemttmg th— this they will come out. we're spending £5 billion over a five pear— spending £5 billion over a five pear pertet— spending £5 billion over a five year period, well— spending £5 billion over a five year period, well over that five pear— year period, well over that five pear pertet— year period, well over that five pear pertet. the— year period, well over that five year period, the road backlog has— year period, the road backlog has get— year period, the road backlog has get wese— year period, the road backlog has got worse by— year period, the road backlog has got worse by over £4 httttem— has got worse by over £4 billion. so— has got worse by over £4 billion. so what you're doing tsa-t— billion. so what you're doing tsm-t werttmg— billion. so what you're doing isn't working. there is an answer to this. - isn't working. there is an answer to this. repairing pethetes— answer to this. repairing pethetes ts— answer to this. repairing potholes is a— answer to this. repairing potholes is a waste of money. vea— potholes is a waste of money. hea meet— potholes is a waste of money. hea meet te— potholes is a waste of money. you need to resurface our roads. t hey— you need to resurface our roads. thep are— you need to resurface our roads. thep past— you need to resurface our roads. they are past their— you need to resurface our roads. they are past their life eapeetamep— they are past their life expeetamep .- they are past their life expectancy . and is that because expectancy. and is that because if expectancy. and is that because tt pea— expectancy. and is that because tt pea stmptp— expectancy. and is that because tt pea stmptp tt— expectancy. and is that because if you simply if you mend a pethete— if you simply if you mend a pethete .— if you simply if you mend a pethete . pea— if you simply if you mend a pothole , you know, you put some pothole, you know, you put some asphatt— pothole, you know, you put some asphatt tm— pothole, you know, you put some new asphalt in, it's— pothole, you know, you put some new asphalt in, it's going to treat— new asphalt in, it's going to treat ap— new asphalt in, it's going to treat ap prettp— new asphalt in, it's going to break up pretty quickly anyway . break up pretty quickly anyway. weah. — break up pretty quickly anyway. yeah. because— break up pretty quickly anyway. yeah. because the area around, it's yeah. because the area around, tt-s met— yeah. because the area around, it's not sound.— yeah. because the area around, it's not sound. i— yeah. because the area around, it's not sound. i mean, unless pea— it's not sound. i mean, unless pea resaratee— it's not sound. i mean, unless you resurface the— it's not sound. i mean, unless you resurface the road , we get you resurface the road, we get tat— you resurface the road, we get tat weather— you resurface the road, we get

bad weather complain and i hate that— bad weather complain and i hate that teeaase— bad weather complain and i hate that because if— bad weather complain and i hate that because if the— bad weather complain and i hate that because if the top wearing tsae — that because if the top wearing surface was maintained and resarateet— surface was maintained and resurfaced, you— surface was maintained and resurfaced, you stop the water getttmg— resurfaced, you stop the water getttmg tm— resurfaced, you stop the water getttmg m. pea— resurfaced, you stop the water getting in, you stop the ice getttmg— getting in, you stop the ice getttmg tm— getting in, you stop the ice getting in. you— getting in, you stop the ice getting in. you stop the pethetes. — getting in. you stop the pethetes. r— getting in. you stop the potholes. i mean, the latest repert— potholes. i mean, the latest repert that— potholes. i mean, the latest report that-on- potholes. i mean, the latest report that on the report that came out on the atarm— report that came out on the atarm sawep— report that came out on the alarm survey that showed the 14 tttttem— alarm survey that showed the 14 billion-backlog— alarm survey that showed the 14 billion backlog says that billion plus backlog says that our roads will— billion plus backlog says that our roads will be— billion plus backlog says that our roads will be resurfaced . our roads will be resurfaced. wete— our roads will be resurfaced. wete taetp— our roads will be resurfaced. we're lucky once— our roads will be resurfaced. we're lucky once every 116 years wtt— we're lucky once every 116 years wttt emtp— we're lucky once every 116 years wttt emtp tast— we're lucky once every 116 years will only last 20— we're lucky once every 116 years will only last 20 or— we're lucky once every 116 years will only last 20 or 30 years. were— will only last 20 or 30 years. were tm— will only last 20 or 30 years. we're in service.— will only last 20 or 30 years. we're in service. so it doesn't tate— we're in service. so it doesn't take a— we're in service. so it doesn't take a tet— we're in service. so it doesn't take a tet et— we're in service. so it doesn't take a lot of working out. while the metwert— take a lot of working out. while the network is— take a lot of working out. while the network is so— take a lot of working out. while the network is so critical. i get— the network is so critical. i get tet— the network is so critical. i get tet ap— the network is so critical. i get fed up with— the network is so critical. i get fed up with the politics teeaase— get fed up with the politics because-graph. get fed up with the politics- because - graph showing because if i did a graph showing it because if i did a graph showing tt-trem— because if i did a graph showing tt-trem the— because if i did a graph showing it-from the year— because if i did a graph showing it from the year 2000 to it back from the year 2000 to .tt-s— it back from the year 2000 to mew-tt-s grewm- it back from the year 2000 to now, it's grown over now, how it's grown over successive governments . yeah successive governments. yeah wett— successive governments. yeah wett. cteartp— successive governments. yeah well, clearly, mark,— successive governments. yeah well, clearly, mark, this- successive governments. yeah well, clearly, mark, this is a problem that is getting worse and worse and worse. and as you say, the extent of the backlog of you know , road of 14 billion, you know, road budget backlog is absolutely enormous. so what do you do, mark? do you still go out yourself and try men potholes? or is your job now to be a sort or is yourjob now to be a sort of national voice for this problem? well, i tend to use seetat— problem? well, i tend to use social media— problem? well, i tend to use social media and— 7 well, i tend to use social media and i've got a mamhe— social media and i've got a mamte et— social media and i've got a number of groups support had

some success— number of groups support had some success down in kent over chrtstmas— some success down in kent over chrtstmas amt— some success down in kent over christmas and new— some success down in kent over christmas and new year in temtertem— christmas and new year in tenterden because we actually got tenterden because we actually get part— tenterden because we actually get part et— tenterden because we actually get part et the— tenterden because we actually got part of the a28 resurfaced whea— got part of the a28 resurfaced when r— got part of the a28 resurfaced when r get— got part of the a28 resurfaced when r get the— got part of the a28 resurfaced when i got the council leader tmwetwet— when i got the council leader involved because— when i got the council leader involved because it was so herremteas— involved because it was so horrendous and— involved because it was so horrendous and i set up national all horrendous and i set up national att tap— horrendous and i set up national att tap .— horrendous and i set up national att tap . twe— horrendous and i set up national all day . i've had— horrendous and i set up national all day . i've had millions of all day. i've had millions of peamts— all day. i've had millions of peamts et— all day. i've had millions of pounds of resurfacing work earrtet— pounds of resurfacing work carried out. _ pounds of resurfacing work carried out. i've— pounds of resurfacing work carried out. i've issued legal mettees— carried out. i've issued legal notices against— carried out. i've issued legal notices against councils or threatemet— notices against councils or threatened-or- notices against councils or threatened or even national threatened to or even national htghwaps— threatened to or even national htghwaps te— threatened to or even national htghwaps te get— threatened to or even national highways to get major works earrtet— highways to get major works earrtetl— highways to get major works carried-. um,— highways to get major works carried-. um, so- highways to get major works carried . um, so i'm the pain carried out. um, so i'm the pain in carried out. um, so i'm the pain h the— carried out. um, so i'm the pain in the backside— carried out. um, so i'm the pain in the backside that won't go awap. — in the backside that won't go map the— in the backside that won't go away. the government would like to away. the government would like te-taet— away. the government would like te-taet et— away. the government would like to-back of.iwas- away. the government would like to-back of.iwas part- to see the back of. i was part of to see the back of. i was part etltramspert— to see the back of. i was part of transport committee of a transport select committee tmgatrp— of a transport select committee inquiry-evidence- of a transport select committee inquiry. evidence is in inquiry. my evidence is in there.— inquiry. my evidence is in there-a- inquiry. my evidence is in. there.-a brilliant there. there was a brilliant eress—partp— cross—party report called fill in cross—party report called fill hwa—s— cross—party report called fill hwa—s gtwem- cross—party report called fill in _was given lipi in the gap. it was given lip sewtee— in the gap. it was given lip service-grant— in the gap. it was given lip service grant shapps when he service by grant shapps when he was service by grant shapps when he at— service by grant shapps when he at them— service by grant shapps when he was at then transport secretary the— was at then transport secretary the amwers— was at then transport secretary the answers are— was at then transport secretary the answers are there, but it past— the answers are there, but it past meets— the answers are there, but it just needs government to have the-te— just needs government to have the-te-te— just needs government to have the-te-te .— just needs government to have the-to-to . it's- the will to want to. it's estimated— the will to want to. it's estimated that the backlog in reat— estimated that the backlog in reat ts— estimated that the backlog in road is costing— estimated that the backlog in road is costing this country tttttems— road is costing this country billions of— road is costing this country billions of pounds each year. wett— billions of pounds each year. wett r— billions of pounds each year. wett t have— billions of pounds each year. well i have to— billions of pounds each year. well i have to say maher waareate— well i have to say maher maaroufe is— well i have to say maher maaroufe is the first time that spetem— maaroufe is the first time that we've spoken on. e we've spoken on. i do like talking to people who are a pain in the neck to the establishment because they want to get positive thank for positive change. thank you for coming on and i wish you

godspeed . i really, genuinely godspeed. i really, genuinely do.thank godspeed. i really, genuinely do. thank you forjoining us do. thank you for joining us this evening. thank you. on gb news. now, in a moment, we're going to go to paris where there have been riots once again going on today . and the french on today. and the french anti—riot police going in hard with truncheons as they do in france. it seems. well, whether it's quite a revolution, i don't know. but big things are happening and marine le pen. yes leader of the right in france. and she , according to polls, and she, according to polls, could become the next president. she says she has a solution to the cross channel migrant crisis . a lot of people don't like the le pen family. . a lot of people don't like the le pen family . they didn't like le pen family. they didn't like the old front national . but i the old front national. but i wonder whether she might just have something to offer have something positive to offer the british. all of that in just a few moments . a few moments.

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gb news. well, - gb news. well, the gb news.- well, the streets eh news. - well, the streets of eh news. — well, the streets of paris in rewett— well, the streets of paris in rewett pet— well, the streets of paris in revolt yet again— well, the streets of paris in revolt yet again today. i'm pethet— revolt yet again today. i'm that tp— revolt yet again today. i'm joined by paris— revolt yet again today. i'm joined by paris based journalist and daily telegraph columnist anne—elisabeth moutet, who we're speaking to in paris right now. welcome to the program. and some of the pictures i've been seeing today and the tactics being used

by the riot police. it looks pretty violent . it looks pretty pretty violent. it looks pretty wtetemt— pretty violent. it looks pretty wtetemt .— pretty violent. it looks pretty wtetemt . tat— pretty violent. it looks pretty violent . but what— . it looks pretty violent . but what you do not see violent. but what you do not see is violent. but what you do not see ts pea— violent. but what you do not see ts pea start— violent. but what you do not see is you start with— violent. but what you do not see is you start with a— violent. but what you do not see is you start with a march that is you start with a march that ts prettp— is you start with a march that is pretty peaceful— is you start with a march that is pretty peaceful and then tewarts— is pretty peaceful and then towards the _ is pretty peaceful and then towards the last quarter of the emttre— towards the last quarter of the emttre ttme— towards the last quarter of the entire time, you— towards the last quarter of the entire time, you get what we eat— entire time, you get what we eat qatar.— entire time, you get what we call qatar, which— entire time, you get what we call qatar, which is basically heettgams— call qatar, which is basically hooligans who— call qatar, which is basically hooligans who come to break, to harm— hooligans who come to break, to harm .— hooligans who come to break, to harm . te— hooligans who come to break, to harm . te teet— hooligans who come to break, to burn , to loot, and— hooligans who come to break, to burn , to loot, and then the burn, to loot, and then the pethe— burn, to loot, and then the pettee tht— burn, to loot, and then the police find themselves in a sttaattem— police find themselves in a situation where— police find themselves in a situation where they've been atsetatetp— situation where they've been absolutely forbidden to try and prevent— absolutely forbidden to try and prewemt peepte— absolutely forbidden to try and prevent people from joining the demonstration,— prevent people from joining the demonstration, because that weattm-t— demonstration, because that weattm-t te— demonstration, because that wouldn't be legal. demonstration, because that wouldn't be legal . and then they wouldn't be legal. and then they try wouldn't be legal. and then they trp amt— wouldn't be legal. and then they trp amt eateh— wouldn't be legal. and then they try and catch the— wouldn't be legal. and then they try and catch the ones who are ereattmg— try and catch the ones who are ereattmg thts— try and catch the ones who are creating this kind— try and catch the ones who are creating this kind of lawlessness . and i would like creating this kind of— lawlessness . and i would like to lawlessness. and i would like to att— lawlessness. and i would like to att that— lawlessness. and i would like to add that during— lawlessness. and i would like to add that during the first two memths— add that during the first two memths et— add that during the first two months of demonstrations against it, months of demonstrations against p, the— months of demonstrations against p, the pemstem— months of demonstrations against it, the pension bill— months of demonstrations against it, the pension bill for in all of it, the pension bill for in all er ramaarp— it, the pension bill for in all er january amt— it, the pension bill for in all of january and february, when you— of january and february, when pea hat— of january and february, when pea hat .— of january and february, when pea hat . ttght— of january and february, when you had . eight different days of you had. eight different days of attem— you had. eight different days of aettem amt— you had. eight different days of action and therefore eight tttteremt— action and therefore eight different marches, it was

emttretp— different marches, it was entirely peaceful because ewerpthtmg— entirely peaceful because everything was controlled by the amt— everything was controlled by the unions. and in— everything was controlled by the unions. and in march , when the unions. and in march, when the presttemt— unions. and in march, when the presttemt sart— unions. and in march, when the president said that he still weatt— president said that he still weatt met— president said that he still would not have talks with the atem— would not have talks with the union leaders,— would not have talks with the union leaders, the whole thing disintegrated— union leaders, the whole thing disintegrated .— union leaders, the whole thing disintegrated . and the castile, disintegrated. and the castile, the trench— disintegrated. and the castile, the french version of antifa, whteh— the french version of antifa, whteh ts— the french version of antifa, which is known— the french version of antifa, which is known as the black bloc .tetmet— which is known as the black bloc rioined the— which is known as the black bloc , joined the demonstration. and thep— , joined the demonstration. and thep ame— , joined the demonstration. and thep ter— , joined the demonstration. and they came for all— , joined the demonstration. and they came for all of that. so what— they came for all of that. so what peate— they came for all of that. so what you're seeing is the tail emt— what you're seeing is the tail emt amt— what you're seeing is the tail emt amt the— what you're seeing is the tail end and the side— what you're seeing is the tail end and the side of the demonstration, of course, it mates— demonstration, of course, it mates ter— demonstration, of course, it mates ter a— demonstration, of course, it makes for a better images and that-s— makes for a better images and thats what— makes for a better images and that's what you— makes for a better images and that's what you see with that exeepttem — that's what you see with that exception. without sort of getttmg— exception. without sort of getttmg the— exception. without sort of getting the context of it . yeah getting the context of it. yeah tat— getting the context of it. yeah tat tt-s— getting the context of it. yeah tat tt-s perp— getting the context of it. yeah but it's very difficult- getting the context of it. yeah but it's very difficult for- getting the context of it. yeah but it's very difficult for us on this side of the channel to imagine that a, you know, a sort of pension age increase to 64 from 62 would spark all of this. and that today , you and i noticed that today, you know, was a high end store know, there was a high end store store that was attacked. you know, one selling very big know, one selling very, very big brand is the rotonde brand names is the rotonde restaurant . you know, the canopy restaurant. you know, the canopy to that set fire the other week. i mean , tell me, am i wrong? are i mean, tell me, am i wrong? are these riots is this violence about about a lot more than just

the proposed increase in pension age?is the proposed increase in pension age? is it about the autocratic style of macron and the sort of disconnection may be that paris has with much of the rest of france ? we are with most of the france? we are with most of the marchers, but these are not the people who go looting. they are entirely different— people who go looting. they are entirely different people. - agrzr 9 they are entirely different people. you have— entirely different people. you have perfectly— entirely different people. you have perfectly peaceful people, ettem— have perfectly peaceful people, often middle— have perfectly peaceful people, often middle aged, and they go and often middle aged, and they go amt thep— often middle aged, and they go amt thep te— often middle aged, and they go and they do not— often middle aged, and they go and they do not loot and they do not and they do not loot and they do met treat— and they do not loot and they do not break things. _ and they do not loot and they do not break things. and they they tettew— not break things. and they they tettew the — not break things. and they they follow the union _ not break things. and they they follow the union slogans . and follow the union slogans. and the mem— follow the union slogans. and the unions have— follow the union slogans. and the unions have been pretty reasematte— the unions have been pretty reasonable-this- the unions have been pretty reasonable this and we reasonable on this one. and we tatt— reasonable on this one. and we can talk about— reasonable on this one. and we can talk about why the reform. i that— can talk about why the reform. i that pemstem— can talk about why the reform. i think pension reform in france is think pension reform in france ts meeessa.rp — think pension reform in france ts meeessa.rp r— think pension reform in france is necessary. i think this one is necessary. i think this one ts eemptetetp— is necessary. i think this one is completely misguided. and there— is completely misguided. and there are— is completely misguided. and there are reasons— is completely misguided. and there are reasons for that. but amt— there are reasons for that. but amt peepte— there are reasons for that. but and people feel— there are reasons for that. but and people feel that. but you're gatte— and people feel that. but you're gahe-that— and people feel that. but you're gate-that tt-s— and people feel that. but you're quite-that it's also- and people feel that. but you're quite that it's also the quite right that it's also the sert— quite right that it's also the sert et— quite right that it's also the sert et htg— quite right that it's also the sort of big headedness of tmmamaet— sort of big headedness of emmanuel macron, to be frank. tmt— emmanuel macron, to be frank. amt the— emmanuel macron, to be frank. and the feeling— emmanuel macron, to be frank. and the feeling that he's tatttmg— and the feeling that he's tatttmg te— and the feeling that he's talking to down people, that he has me— talking to down people, that he has me ttea— talking to down people, that he has no idea of— talking to down people, that he has no idea of what it's like to the— has no idea of what it's like to the em— has no idea of what it's like to the em the— has no idea of what it's like to live on the equivalent of £2,000 or live on the equivalent of £2,000 er tess— live on the equivalent of £2,000 er tess a— live on the equivalent of £2,000 or less a month— live on the equivalent of £2,000 or less a month .— live on the equivalent of £2,000 or less a month . people can't or less a month. people can't pay— or less a month. people can't pap thet— or less a month. people can't pay their bills. _ or less a month. people can't pay their bills. this comes this eermt— pay their bills. this comes this reform comes— pay their bills. this comes this

reform comes at— pay their bills. this comes this reform comes at the exact time when— reform comes at the exact time when inflation— reform comes at the exact time when inflation is— reform comes at the exact time when inflation is hitting the peerer— when inflation is hitting the peerer peepte— when inflation is hitting the peerer peepte .— when inflation is hitting the poorer people , because if you poorer people, because if you teet— poorer people, because if you teet at— poorer people, because if you teet at the— poorer people, because if you look at the inflation rate in trame— look at the inflation rate in trame tt-s— look at the inflation rate in france, it's about 7. but 7% is the.— france, it's about 7. but 7% is the. rt— france, it's about 7. but 7% is the. rt pea— france, it's about 7. but 7% is the. rt pea pat— france, it's about 7. but 7% is fine. if you put all- france, it's about 7. but 7% is fine. if you put all everything that-s— fine. if you put all everything that-s tm— fine. if you put all everything that-s h the— fine. if you put all everything that's in the index and that means cars, that means electric thts— means cars, that means electric thts that— means cars, that means electric kicks, that means— means cars, that means electric kicks, that means clothes. you temt— kicks, that means clothes. you don't necessarily— kicks, that means clothes. you don't necessarily need to buy thts— don't necessarily need to buy thts ewerp— don't necessarily need to buy thts ewerp tap.— don't necessarily need to buy this every day. you do need to buy— this every day. you do need to tap teet— this every day. you do need to tap teet ter— this every day. you do need to buy food for your— this every day. you do need to buy food for your family. this every day. you do need to buy food for your family . and buy food for your family. and you— buy food for your family. and pea te— buy food for your family. and pea te amttt— buy food for your family. and you do until now.— buy food for your family. and you do until now. you need it to heat— you do until now. you need it to heat pearsett— you do until now. you need it to heat yourself and— you do until now. you need it to heat yourself and have electricity. _ heat yourself and have electricity. and that's exactly the start— electricity. and that's exactly the stuff that's— electricity. and that's exactly the stuff that's going out. i mean, no wonder , no wonder that mean, no wonder, no wonder that warhe— mean, no wonder, no wonder that hate te— mean, no wonder, no wonder that hate te tem— mean, no wonder, no wonder that hate te tem .— mean, no wonder, no wonder that marine le pen , who— mean, no wonder, no wonder that marine le pen , who leads now, marine le pen, who leads now, you— marine le pen, who leads now, pea thew.— marine le pen, who leads now, pea thew. has— marine le pen, who leads now, you know, has led— marine le pen, who leads now, you know, has led for some years the mattemat— you know, has led for some years the national rally— you know, has led for some years the national rally and who in each— the national rally and who in each presidential election seems to each presidential election seems te-wetes— each presidential election seems te-wetes . — each presidential election seems te-wetes. we- each presidential election seems to-votes . no wonderl to get more votes. no wonder that polls say if she ran against macron. now she would win the french presidency . now, win the french presidency. now, i know there's a long way to go , but this comment from her published in the telegraph where she says, on migration, we have to have the capacity. great britain and france bilaterally to be able to go and see the countries from which these illegal immigrants originate and

to make joint flights to send the illegal immigrants back to their country of origin . now, their country of origin. now, there's a couple of things , i there's a couple of things, i think, and, elizabeth, that she's saying there. number one, she's saying there. number one, she's saying there. number one, she's saying it will be bilateral, it will have nothing to do with the european union . to do with the european union. and number two, we well, she actually is looking at the problem the same as we are and saying people who enter illegally have to be removed and are you surprised by this positioning? i'm are you surprised by this positioning ? i'm not surprised positioning? i'm not surprised at att— positioning? i'm not surprised at all because— positioning? i'm not surprised at all because she's- “q7 i'm not surprised at all because she's got tasteattp— at all because she's got basically she's got a whole sort of basically she's got a whole sort et the— basically she's got a whole sort et the ash— basically she's got a whole sort of the vista is— basically she's got a whole sort of the vista is open— basically she's got a whole sort of the vista is open for her teeaase— of the vista is open for her because nobody- of the vista is open for her because nobody else wants to tatt— because nobody else wants to tatt aheat— because nobody else wants to talk about immigration in trame— talk about immigration in trame tat— talk about immigration in france. but her candidate on the rtght— france. but her candidate on the rtght .— france. but her candidate on the rtght . the— france. but her candidate on the right, eric zemmour, who is now a smatt— right, eric zemmour, who is now a smatt tette— right, eric zemmour, who is now a small force on— right, eric zemmour, who is now a small force on on— right, eric zemmour, who is now a small force on on on the on the— a small force on on on the on the rtght— a small force on on on the on the rtght et— a small force on on on the on the right of centre.- a small force on on on the on the right of centre. but she essemttattp— the right of centre. but she essentially knows perfectly well that— essentially knows perfectly well that there— essentially knows perfectly well that there are _ essentially knows perfectly well that there are french citizens of that there are french citizens et teretgm— that there are french citizens of foreign origin— that there are french citizens of foreign origin . she has no of foreign origin. she has no prettem — of foreign origin. she has no problem with— of foreign origin. she has no problem with those people as temg— problem with those people as temg as— problem with those people as temg as thep— problem with those people as long as they behave very well, she— long as they behave very well, she saps— long as they behave very well, she says newcomers have no space teeaase— she says newcomers have no space teeaase-wetght— she says newcomers have no space

teeaase-wetght em— she says newcomers have no space because weight on french because the weight on french pathe— because the weight on french pattte-ts— because the weight on french pattte-ts tee- because the weight on french public is too heavy. public services is too heavy. amt— public services is too heavy. amt a— public services is too heavy. amt a pear— public services is too heavy. amt a pear age— public services is too heavy. and a year ago she had an entire ptatterm— and a year ago she had an entire platform .which_ and a year ago she had an entire platform .which she— and a year ago she had an entire platform which she said , if platform in which she said, if you— platform in which she said, if pea-trance- platform in which she said, if you-france and- platform in which she said, if you france and you are you come to france and you are have— you come to france and you are have a— you come to france and you are have a teretgm— you come to france and you are have a foreign passport and you temt— have a foreign passport and you tem-t tht— have a foreign passport and you tem-t ttmtltet— have a foreign passport and you don't find job within a year, don't find a job within a year, you— don't find a job within a year, pea have— don't find a job within a year, you have-back.- don't find a job within a year, you have back. your you have to go back. if your tamttp— you have to go back. if your tamttp teth— you have to go back. if your family both parents are not teach— family both parents are not french, there's— family both parents are not french, there's no reason why you— french, there's no reason why pea sheatt— french, there's no reason why you should have— french, there's no reason why you should have access to all all you should have access to all at the— you should have access to all all the benefits— you should have access to all all the benefits and the financial— all the benefits and the financial help that the government- financial help that the government gives you because that— government gives you because that creates— government gives you because that creates magnet to bring peepte— that creates magnet to bring peepte tmte— that creates magnet to bring people into the— that creates magnet to bring people into the country. so she-s— people into the country. so she-s saptmg— people into the country. so she's saying things that i think are she's saying things that i think perteettp— she's saying things that i think are perfectly understandable trem— are perfectly understandable trem the— are perfectly understandable from the british— are perfectly understandable from the british side. and thep-re— from the british side. and thep-re prettp— from the british side. and they're pretty similar in many waps— they're pretty similar in many waps .— they're pretty similar in many waps . yeah.— they're pretty similar in many waps . yeah. we.— they're pretty similar in many ways . yeah. no, they really are. ways. yeah. no, they really are. i ways. yeah. no, they really are. t mast— ways. yeah. no, they really are. t mast sap.— ways. yeah. no, they really are. t mast sap. r— ways. yeah. no, they really are. i must say, i think— ways. yeah. no, they really are. i must say, i think it's- i must say, i think it's fascinating . anne—elisabeth fascinating. anne—elisabeth moutet thank you for joining me this evening. now the problem is, folks, it'll be 2027 before marine le pen can become president and an awful lot of dinghies will across the channel between now and then . let's have between now and then. let's have a our video barrage. erg a go at our video barrage. erg depher rogers and let's start with daryl . good evening, nigel. with daryl. good evening, nigel. do with daryl. good evening, nigel. he pea— with daryl. good evening, nigel. he pea thtmt— with daryl. good evening, nigel. do you think britain— tag: good evening, nigel. do you think britain should erter—

do you think britain should offer asylum _ do you think britain should offer asylum ,_ do you think britain should offer asylum , um, to refugees offer asylum, um, to refugees whe— offer asylum, um, to refugees whe te— offer asylum, um, to refugees whe te met— offer asylum, um, to refugees who do not embrace the concepts of who do not embrace the concepts et tmttwttaat— who do not embrace the concepts of individual rights,— who do not embrace the concepts of individual rights, free speech— of individual rights, free speech amt— of individual rights, free speech and a- of individual rights, free speech and a free society ? thank speech and a free society? thank you speech and a free society? thank pea .— speech and a free society? thank pea . rt-s— speech and a free society? thank pea . rt-s a— speech and a free society? thank you . it's a difficult— speech and a free society? thank you . it's a difficult one that you. it's a difficult one that teeaase— you. it's a difficult one that because refugees by definition, if because refugees by definition, tt thep-re— because refugees by definition, tt thep-re reat— because refugees by definition, if they're real refugees , are in if they're real refugees, are in tea— if they're real refugees, are in tea et— if they're real refugees, are in fear of their— if they're real refugees, are in fear of their liberty or their the— fear of their liberty or their ttte as— fear of their liberty or their ttte as a— fear of their liberty or their life as a result— fear of their liberty or their life as a result of their rettgtem— life as a result of their religion, their orientation , religion, their orientation, whatever— religion, their orientation, whatever it— religion, their orientation, whatever it may be. that's the stat— whatever it may be. that's the strict old fashioned definition. but in the past, all the genuine refugees that have come to britain have become incredibly british and very, very successful. and so i think, daryl, there's a broader point there, whether you come here legally through normal routes or as a refugee integration is the key. otherwise, we're going to have a very unhappy society . have a very unhappy society. let's see what imran has got for me . hi i'm let's see what imran has got for me. hi i'm imran. my let's see what imran has got for me . hi i'm imran. my question me. hi i'm imran. my question for me. hi i'm imran. my question ter wtget— me. hi i'm imran. my question ter wtget ts— me. hi i'm imran. my question ter wtget ts tp— me. hi i'm imran. my question for nigel is by coming- “3?" my question for nigel is by coming out “35" my question for nigel is by coming out of treat.— for nigel is by coming out of treat we— for nigel is by coming out of brexit, we were— for nigel is by coming out of brexit, we were going to be saptmg— brexit, we were going to be sawtmg a— brexit, we were going to be sawtmg a tet— brexit, we were going to be saving a lot of— brexit, we were going to be saving a lot of money. when are we retmwesttmg— saving a lot of money. when are we reinvesting that— saving a lot of money. when are we reinvesting that into the nhs

7 we reinvesting that into the nhs ewett— we reinvesting that into the nhs ewett tt-s— we reinvesting that into the nhs ewett tt-s a— we reinvesting that into the nhs ? well it's a very— we reinvesting that into the nhs ? well it's a very good gaesttem— ? well it's a very good question, imran. "rzrrz; ? well it's a very good question, imran. "rzz; ? well it's a very good— question, imran. there was some promises made during that campaign . actually, the increase campaign. actually, the increase on spending on the national health service is way more than the 350 million that was written on the side of a bus. the problem is we seems to me the more we spend , i'm not sure more we spend, i'm not sure we're getting a commensurate increase aukus in service nhs spending about 8% of gdp a handful of years ago , now 12% of handful of years ago, now 12% of gdp. but i wonder how many of you at home or in your cars watching and listening to this think it's 50% better? i think radical reform is maybe what we need. time for one more. let's go to daniel. hello. my name is hamtet— go to daniel. hello. my name is hamtet .— go to daniel. hello. my name is hamtet . r— go to daniel. hello. my name is hamtet . r was— agrzr j hello. my name is daniel . i was wondering agrzr jzt“ hello. my name is daniel . i was wondering what you daniel. i was wondering what you do daniel. i was wondering what you te em— daniel. i was wondering what you te em a— daniel. i was wondering what you do on a saturday— daniel. i was wondering what you do on a saturday night. daniel. i was wondering what you do on a saturday night . �*tfttrzee do on a saturday night. well, what— do on a saturday night. well, what r— do on a saturday night. well, what r te— do on a saturday night. well, what r to en— do on a saturday night. well, what i do on a— do on a saturday night. well, what i do on a saturday night may be different now, daniel. to what it was when i was younger. it would be in the pub or at the golf club, and probably for an extended period of time. i've slowed down a little bit. i've

calmed down a little bit, but, you know, i might be i might i might go to the pub, but i've got to tell you, it'll be for a far shorter period of time than when i was your age. some of us, as we get older, do actually , in as we get older, do actually, in the end, become more sensible . the end, become more sensible. now, jacob rees—mogg joins me. jacob, what have we got today? what have we got? well, we're going what have we got? well, we're getmg te— what have we got? well, we're getmg te te— what have we got? well, we're going to be talking,— what have we got? well, we're going to be talking,-of- going to be talking, first of alb— going to be talking, first of all,_regulations| all, about new regulations httttmg— all, about new regulations hitting because hitting landlords because now the—stepi hitting landlords because now- the—step pea the government wants to stop you tetttmg— the government wants to stop you tetttmg eat— the government wants to stop you tetttmg eat pear— the government wants to stop you letting out your property for a tew—atrtmt. - letting out your property for a few _airbnb. and. letting out your property for a. few _airbnb. and the few days as an airbnb. and the prettem — few days as an airbnb. and the prettem ts— few days as an airbnb. and the problem is nothing with problem is nothing to do with tamtterts. — problem is nothing to do with landlords. .to_ problem is nothing to do with landlords.-to do- problem is nothing to do with landlords. to do with landlords. it's to do with not tattttmg— landlords. it's to do with not building—we'vel building enough. and we've tattet— building enough. and we've tattet te— building enough. and we've failed to do— building enough. and we've failed to do and we've got failed to do that and we've got to failed to do that and we've got te-mere.— failed to do that and we've got te-mere. se— failed to do that and we've got to-more. so _one. to build more. so that's one of the— to build more. so that's one of the thtmgs— to build more. so that's one of the things-doing. - the things we're doing. also, tm — the things we're doing. also, i'm _jp- the things we're doing. also, tm —rp ts i'm delighted that jp morgan is tetttmg— i'm delighted that jp morgan is tetttmg peepte— i'm delighted that jp morgan is telling people to— i'm delighted that jp morgan is telling people to get in the etttee— telling people to get in the office .they'll_ telling people to get in the office they'll fired. office or they'll be fired. thep-re— office or they'll be fired. they're am. they're even tougher than i am. wett— they're even tougher than i am. wett thep-re— they're even tougher than i am. well, they're very— they're even tougher than i am. well, they're very successful. i well, they're very successful. r rememert— well, they're very successful. i remember you _ well, they're very successful. i remember you leaving- well, they're very successful. i remember you leaving notes in civil offices as well. civil servants offices as well. sorry. i guess . yeah. i saw the sorry. i guess. yeah. i saw the jp sorry. i guess. yeah. i saw the hp megam— sorry. i guess. yeah. i saw the hp megam thtmg— sorry. i guess. yeah. i saw the hp megam thtmg. r— sorry. i guess. yeah. i saw the jp morgan thing. i thought that was-significant— jp morgan thing. i thought that was significant too. and was very significant too. and peat.— was very significant too. and peah wett— was very significant too. and yeah, work-home- was very significant too. and yeah, work home is only so yeah, work from home is only so geet— yeah, work from home is only so geet ter— yeah, work from home is only so geet ter a— yeah, work from home is only so good for a limited— yeah, work from home is only so good for a limited of good for a limited period of ttme— good for a limited period of ttme .— good for a limited period of ttme . teepte— good for a limited period of time . people are better as teams time. people are better as teams aeat— time. people are better as teams aremt-rtght. — time. people are better as teams aren't.-right. you- time. people are better as teams aren't. right. t/rz. : aren't. that's right. you need that— aren't. that's right. you need that atmosphere and it's that team atmosphere and it's

such a big and successful company. i a young company. i think it's a young peepte— company. i think it's a young peepte-chame- company. i think it's a young people-chance to- ataza“ jety i think it's a young people chance to learn people get a chance to learn trem— people get a chance to learn hem-tm— people get a chance to learn from-i'm done.- people get a chance to learn from i'm done. i'm back from others. i'm done. i'm back wtth— from others. i'm done. i'm back wtth pea— from others. i'm done. i'm back wtth pea em— from others. i'm done. i'm back with you on monday. let's have a teet— with you on monday. let's have a tet-weather.— with you on monday. let's have a look weather. surely it look at the weather. surely it mast— look at the weather. surely it must-better. _andl must get better. hello and welcome latest update welcome to your latest update brought you by the met brought to you by the met office. we office. i'm mark wilson as we head friday, head through friday, then another changeable come another changeable day to come with sunshine and with a mixture of sunshine and showers, persistent with a mixture of sunshine and shov across persistent with a mixture of sunshine and shov across far persistent with a mixture of sunshine and shov across far south sistent with a mixture of sunshine and shov across far south forant rain across the far south for a time, winds will that time, but winds will stay that bit lighter than of late. we look pattern. look at the pressure pattern. then the reason why then you can see the reason why low still centred low pressure is still centred across the uk. as we head through friday and through thursday into friday and this approaching this weather front approaching from that's what could from the west. that's what could bnng from the west. that's what could bring heavier, more bring some heavier, more persistent the far persistent rain across the far south, so south, at least for a time. so you pick on that rain you can pick up on that rain then devon then approaching devon and cornwall through the cornwall as we head through the course the night when sartan course of the night when sartan strengthen but strengthen here as well. but elsewhere, yes, there will be some showery outbreaks of rain across scotland and northern ireland, country ireland, but much of the country will turn drier with just isolated showers and 1 or mist isolated showers and 1 or 2 mist and and under those and fog patches. and under those clear skies will turn chilly clear skies it will turn chilly with rural with temperatures in rural spots falling fairly close to freezing. up on that freezing. so we pick up on that heavy then quite a wet heavy rain, then quite a wet start day across parts of start to the day across parts of devon cornwall and south start to the day across parts of devon and cornwall and south start to the day across parts of devon and thatvall and south start to the day across parts of devon and that rainand south start to the day across parts of devon and that rain willsouth wales. and that rain will continue its way continue to push its way eastwards southern

eastwards across many southern coastal through eastwards across many southern coatday. through eastwards across many southern coatday. elsewhere through eastwards across many southern coatday. elsewhere though,irough eastwards across many southern coatday. elsewhere though, theret the day. elsewhere though, there will be some bright or sunny spells. but once again, another day sunshine and heavy day of sunshine and heavy showers. anywhere showers. just about anywhere could a heavy shower with could see a heavy shower with the thunder and the risk of hail and thunder and with once again, with light winds once again, these quite these showers could be quite slow and all slow moving too. and under all that and it will that cloud and showers, it will be cool day for be another fairly cool day for the the year. afternoon the time of the year. afternoon highs just 12 degrees highs of just 9 to 12 degrees for of us as we head for most of us as we head through friday the evening through friday into the evening and overnight, then those showery rain will showery outbreaks of rain will start more start to turn heavier and more persistent across the south start to turn heavier and more persiste parts oss the south start to turn heavier and more persiste parts of; the south start to turn heavier and more persiste parts of england. h start to turn heavier and more persiste parts of england. so it eastern parts of england. so it could quite a wet picture for could be quite a wet picture for the evening rush hour the friday evening rush hour before then starts to before that rain then starts to spread east. elsewhere spread on to the east. elsewhere though, those showers spread on to the east. elsewhere though, away those showers spread on to the east. elsewhere though, away as hose showers spread on to the east. elsewhere though, away as wee showers will fade away as we head through evening through the evening and overnight. turning overnight. and so turning drier, clearer, 1 or mist and fog clearer, 1 or 2 mist and fog patches. and again, a patches. and again, quite a chilly come, chilly night to come, particularly in the countryside. so we start saturday morning, so if we start saturday morning, then a cloud still in then a bit more cloud still in that far southeastern corner and that far southeastern corner and that could start to that cloud could start to lead to or showers the time we to 1 or 2 showers by the time we get the afternoon. to 1 or 2 showers by the time we get elsewhere,the afternoon. to 1 or 2 showers by the time we get elsewhere, lookfternoon. to 1 or 2 showers by the time we get elsewhere, lookfternoora but elsewhere, look at this, a much on saturday, much brighter day on saturday, largely skies largely sunny, clear skies throughout light winds throughout the day. light winds as well. in that sunshine as well. and in that sunshine feeling well. feeling that bit warmer as well. it largely dry as we head

it stays largely dry as we head through sunday into the early it stays largely dry as we head throtofi sunday into the early it stays largely dry as we head throtofi sunweek. to the early it stays largely dry as we head throtofi sunweek. to th with ly it stays largely dry as we head throtofi sunweek. to th with more part of next week. and with more sunshine, should start sunshine, it should start to warm well. see you .

you with gb news. in a moment, - you with gb news. in a moment, teatttmers— . you with gb news. in a moment, teatttmers tat— . you with gb news. in a moment, headliners but-let's— headliners but first, let's trtmg— headliners but first, let's trtmg-tate- headliners but first, let's bring-date the bring you up to date with the tatest—amtl latest news headlines and tresttemt— latest news headlines and president biden says the uk gewemmemt— president biden says the uk government should be working mere-wtth— government should be working more _with the - government should be working more with the irish more closely with the irish gewemmemt— more closely with the irish government to _ more closely with the irish government to support northern retamt— government to support northern tretamt tm— government to support northern tretamt h a— government to support northern ireland in a historic address to the htsh— ireland in a historic address to the irish parliament earlier on tetap.— the irish parliament earlier on tetap. hr. — the irish parliament earlier on today, mr. biden— the irish parliament earlier on today, mr. biden said the good trttap— today, mr. biden said the good friday agreement— today, mr. biden said the good friday agreement has had a stgmttteamt— friday agreement has had a significant and— friday agreement has had a significant and positive impact and significant and positive impact amt he— significant and positive impact amt he arget— significant and positive impact and he urged those assembled to that— and he urged those assembled to ensure that political violence mast— ensure that political violence must never be— ensure that political violence must never be allowed again to tate— must never be allowed again to take hett. — must never be allowed again to take hold. his— must never be allowed again to take hold. his comments received apptaase— take hold. his comments received apptaase as— take hold. his comments received warm applause as he spoke in treat— warm applause as he spoke in tremt et— warm applause as he spoke in tremt et hts— warm applause as he spoke in front of his son,— warm applause as he spoke in front of his son, hunter and stster— front of his son, hunter and sister valerie— front of his son, hunter and sister valerie biden. owens tresttemt— sister valerie biden. owens president biden also spoke of

the sharet— president biden also spoke of the shared history between retamt— the shared history between ireland and— the shared history between ireland and the united states, amt— ireland and the united states, amt he— ireland and the united states, and he touched— ireland and the united states, and he touched on the events that— and he touched on the events that tte— and he touched on the events that tte the— and he touched on the events that tie the two _ and he touched on the events that tie the two nations tegether— that tie the two nations tegether . — that tie the two nations together . that tie the two nations- together . these stories are the together. these stories are the very heart of what binds ireland and america together. they speak to a history defined by our dreams. they speak to a president written by our shared responsible motty, and they speak to a future poised for unlimited shared possibilities. so today i'd like to reflect on the enduring strength of the connections between ireland and the united states. a partnership for the ages . now the fbi has for the ages. now the fbi has arrestet— for the ages. now the fbi has arrestet a— for the ages. now the fbi has arrested a us— 3 now the fbi has arrested a us national guardsman mamet— arrested a us national guardsman mamet as— arrested a us national guardsman mamet as tatt— arrested a us national guardsman named as jack douglas dushera in massachusetts— named as jack douglas dushera in massachusetts .— named as jack douglas dushera in massachusetts . this following massachusetts. this following the teat— massachusetts. this following the teat et— massachusetts. this following the leak of over— massachusetts. this following the leak of over 100 highly etasstttet— the leak of over 100 highly classified pentagon documents, the teat— classified pentagon documents, the teat ts— classified pentagon documents, the leak is believed to be the mest— the leak is believed to be the most serious— the leak is believed to be the most serious security breach in peas— most serious security breach in peas heme— most serious security breach in pea seme et— most serious security breach in years. some of the— most serious security breach in years. some of the documents are tettewet— years. some of the documents are tettewet te— years. some of the documents are tettewet te te— years. some of the documents are believed to be related to thatme-s— believed to be related to ukraine's military capability , ukraine's military capability, as tt— ukraine's military capability, as tt atse— ukraine's military capability, as it also included in embarrassing information about us

embarrassing information about ts attes—