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nurses reject the government's latest pay offer . it could mean latest pay offer. it could mean a return to picket lines. nurses joining junior doctors who are staging their fourth consecutive day of strikes . the royal day of strikes. the royal college of nursing is due to announce the results of a ballot later. members voted on a 5% pay rise this year as well as a cash payment for last year. unison's result is expected over the next few days. shadow treasury minister james murray says the government has not done enough to avoid industrial action. it feels like the government hasn't really learnt anything from what's been going on over many months. when you look at the junior— months. when you look at the junior doctor— months. when you look at the junior doctor dispute- when you look at the junior doctor dispute in there and— junior doctor dispute in there and there— junior doctor dispute in there and there and— junior doctor dispute in there and there and the government's failure—them] failure to negotiate with them, negotiate — failure to negotiate with them, negotiate options about negotiate options are about comr0mr>ise_ negotiate options are about oomoomoo .— negotiate options are about compromise . when you have the compromise. when you have the employee— compromise. when you have the employee representatives setting out—starting- out what their initial starting oom— out what their initial starting point m— out what their initial starting point m i— out what their initial starting point is, i think— out what their initial starting point is, i think people know may-m— point is, i think people know may-m moa— point is, i think people know they're not likely to get that. mom—mave- they're not likely to get that. there _ have i be i there is going to have to be compromise— there is going to have to be compromise. that's that's the mecessiry— compromise. that's that's the mecessiry oi— compromise. that's that's the necessity of negotiation is to make— necessity of negotiation is to make sure a compromise happens. but make sure a compromise happens. ear iravimp— make sure a compromise happens. ear iravimo ripar— make sure a compromise happens. but having that compromise, having—wrai- but having that compromise, having—what is. but having that compromise,| having—what is so having that deal is what is so criricai—

having that deal is what is so critical about— having that deal is what is so critical about avoiding industrial— critical about avoiding industrial ahead . industrial action going ahead. memorie— industrial action going ahead. meanwhile, civil— industrial action going ahead. meanwhile, civil servants- industrial action going ahead. meanwhile, civil servants will hold fresh strikes after the government announced a pay rise of between four and a half and 5. the peaks union's general secretary described it as insulting and completely inadequate. staff will walk out inadequate. staff will walk out in may and june across government departments in areas like the met office . a mother like the met office. a mother and father have been found guilty of murdering their baby son on christmas day. steve bowden and shannon morrison inflicted repeated acts of severe violence on their ten month old finley . 71 bruises and month old finley. 71 bruises and 57 fractures were found on his body. finley had only been placed back in their care for 39 days before he was killed. despite social workers asking for a longer transition period for a longer transition period for a longer transition period for a child safeguarding review has been launched . the us has been launched. the us president has returned to his

ancestral roots , arriving in ancestral roots, arriving in county mayo. it's the final day of his four day trip to ireland , which former taoiseach enda kenny said was the longest presidential visit ever to the island. president biden is expected to make a private visit to the mayo roscommon de—man hospice that is dedicated to his son, beau, who died of brain cancer in 2015. on a student who threw eggs at the king in york has been found guilty of threatening behaviour. 23 year old patrick thelwell through at least five eggs at the monarch dunng least five eggs at the monarch during a visit to york minster in november last year. the judge sentenced thelwell to a 12 month community order with 100 hours of unpaid work. he had pleaded not guilty , arguing he acted in not guilty, arguing he acted in self defence against what he called the violence carried out by the british state . staying by the british state. staying with royal news now and the king

has spoken of his pride in his two sons as he observed military cadets at sandhurst royal military academy this afternoon . it was the monarch's first visit to the parade as king, and dunng visit to the parade as king, and during a speech there, he said he stood as a father of two alumni of the academy , alumni of the academy, mentioning the immense pride the princes would be feeling. the king also praised the uk's role as a leading nation in delivering training equipment and advice to . ukraine a us and advice to. ukraine a us airman suspected of leaking highly classified documents will appear at a court in massachusetts later today. 21 year old jack taoiseach schirra was arrested by the fbi yesterday after allegedly sharing highly sensitive government information, which was posted on a social media site . it is the most serious site. it is the most serious security breach in the us in years as so keir starmer reportedly spent nearly a quarter of £1 million of public

money on travel expenses while he was director of public prosecutions. an article in declassified has revealed the labour leader, billed over £160,000 for a chauffeur driven car. that's despite living four miles from the cps office , while miles from the cps office, while his successor, alison saunders , his successor, alison saunders, who served the same five year term, had a travel expenses bill less than a third of that amount . the european space agency has launched a rocket to jupiter. the spacecraft was initially meant to take off yesterday to see if jupiter's moons support life, but was called off due to bad weather. it is the first attempt to send a probe to orbit another planet's moon . it is gb another planet's moon. it is gb news. we'll bring you more as it happens. now, though, it's back to .

to. patrick yes . happy friday, everybody. yes. happy friday, everybody. i've got a lot for you today. i'm going to start actually with some alarming figures out to show the excess deaths are almost tripled after last month's junior doctor strike. and it could be a big day for medical because any minute medical news because any minute we think we think we might be getting about getting the result back about whether or not nurses have voted to offer . so we're to accept a pay offer. so we're bringing but you bringing that to you. but you might back march, might remember back in march, doctors walked out for 72 hours between the 13th and 15th and over a two week period during and after the strike, the number of excess deaths in england shot up of excess deaths in england shot ”p by of excess deaths in england shot up by nearly 170, which is staggering , really, isn't it? staggering, really, isn't it? and the news does come on the day that the result of the ballot into the government's pay deal for nurses is due to be announced as i said, we'll be keeping you bang up to date on that. but it got me thinking really a lot of really didn't it? a lot of people saying, well, i do people were saying, well, i do support idea that doctors do support the idea that doctors do deserve junior doctors do deserve junior doctors do

deserve pay rise. deserve some form of pay rise. they an incredibly difficult they do an incredibly difficult job. leads patient job. but if it leads to patient deaths, are you still on board with would appear with it? and now it would appear anyway, deaths anyway, that those excess deaths are coincide with the are well, they coincide with the time were off. time the doctors were off. so make that you will. but make of that what you will. but i'm now by gb news i'm joined now by gb news political reporter catherine forster. catherine, let's start with actually with what could actually be happening minute, happening any minute, really, which result this. which is the result of this. nurses through nurses ballot. talk us through what's . so the what's going on there. so the royal college of nurses- igzr 9 si" so the royal college of nurses , the royal college of nurses, the iaiiors— royal college of nurses, the iaiiors-poimp- royal college of nurses, the ballots-going on- royal college of nurses, the ballots going on for few ballots been going on for a few weeks— ballots been going on for a few weeks-crose— ballots been going on for a few weeks-close this- ballots been going on for a few weeks close this morning weeks now. close this morning aboar— weeks now. close this morning aioar eroo. — weeks now. close this morning about 9:00. the— weeks now. close this morning about 9:00. the announcement is expecrea— about 9:00. the announcement is expecrei ar— about 9:00. the announcement is expecrei ar amy— about 9:00. the announcement is expected at any point this airemoom— expected at any point this afternoon in— expected at any point this afternoon in pat cullen. eivioasiy— afternoon in pat cullen. obviously the - afternoon in pat cullen. obviously the head of the rcn is expecrei— obviously the head of the rcn is expecrei ro— obviously the head of the rcn is expected to speak— obviously the head of the rcn is expected to speak around 6:00. now— expected to speak around 6:00. now, ir— expected to speak around 6:00. now, it sounds— expected to speak around 6:00. now, it sounds like it's pretty much— now, it sounds like it's pretty macir mecc— now, it sounds like it's pretty much neck and— now, it sounds like it's pretty much neck and neck, but it is paire— much neck and neck, but it is quire iikeiy— much neck and neck, but it is quite likely that— much neck and neck, but it is quite likely that the members wiri— quite likely that the members wiii rep-ecr— quite likely that the members will reject the _ quite likely that the members will reject the rcn. the unions ecomk— will reject the rcn. the unions reckon foundation, which was to accepr— reckon foundation, which was to accepr mis— reckon foundation, which was to accepr rmis sic— reckon foundation, which was to accept this 5% pay— reckon foundation, which was to accept this 5% pay offer for for the accept this 5% pay offer for for ripe ripe — accept this 5% pay offer for for ripe ripe year— accept this 5% pay offer for for the the year that— accept this 5% pay offer for for the the year that we're now in, pips— the the year that we're now in, pias ripe— the the year that we're now in, pips ripe oe— the the year that we're now in, plus the one off— the the year that we're now in, plus the one off payment going back— plus the one off payment going pack pori— plus the one off payment going back both the— plus the one off payment going back both the rcn and unison recommended—

back both the rcn and unison recommended members to accept ripar— recommended members to accept mar opp..— recommended members to accept mar ope. par— recommended members to accept that offer, but it— recommended members to accept that offer, but it doesn't necessarily— that offer, but it doesn't necessarily mean that they will ami— necessarily mean that they will and amsom— necessarily mean that they will and unison and— necessarily mean that they will and unison and that result will be commo— and unison and that result will be coming im— and unison and that result will be coming in the— and unison and that result will be coming in the coming days. ream— be coming in the coming days. ream. mecca.— be coming in the coming days. yeah, indeed. now— be coming in the coming days. yeah, indeed. now we- be coming in the coming days. yeah, indeed. now we spoke about this at the time that this offer was put to them and we were saying, weren't we? well, maybe this end of it. now, this is the end of it. now, clearly not. what's changed? because all music until because all the mood music until really kind of about last night was that there were probably going to accept it. well, yes. and going to accept it. well, yes. ami mar-s— going to accept it. well, yes. and that's what— going to accept it. well, yes. and that's what those- igziti g ” c well, yes. and that's what those union posses— and that's what those union bosses was wanted and i guess expecrei— bosses was wanted and i guess expecrei ripar— bosses was wanted and i guess expected that the _ bosses was wanted and i guess expected that the members would fall expected that the members would iaii im— expected that the members would iaii im rime— expected that the members would iaii im iime .— expected that the members would fall in line . but— expected that the members would fall in line . but of— expected that the members would fall in line . but of course , the fall in line. but of course, the ion-r— fall in line. but of course, the nurses don't go— fall in line. but of course, the nurses don't go out on strike iipmiy. — nurses don't go out on strike iipiiriy. imi— nurses don't go out on strike lightly. and having done this, i suppose— lightly. and having done this, i suppose ripe— lightly. and having done this, i suppose the feeling is we're not going— suppose the feeling is we're not going ro— suppose the feeling is we're not going o oo— suppose the feeling is we're not going ro io mis— suppose the feeling is we're not going to do this again soon. so wiriie— going to do this again soon. so wiriie ire-e— going to do this again soon. so while we're at— going to do this again soon. so while we're at it,— going to do this again soon. so while we're at it, let's get a iecem— while we're at it, let's get a decent settlement. now, although the government— decent settlement. now, although the government are saying imiariom— the government are saying inflation is— the government are saying inflation is going to be down or so-oeic— inflation is going to be down or so .obr-inflation- inflation is going to be down or so .obr-inflation is. so the obr saying inflation is going— so the obr saying inflation is pomp-ire— so the obr saying inflation is goinglbe dorm— so the obr saying inflation is going be down to by the going to be down to 2.9% by the emi— going to be down to 2.9% by the emilrme— going to be down to 2.9% by the emilrme year. — going to be down to 2.9% by the end-the year. we're- going to be down to 2.9% by the end the year. we're not end of the year. we're not seeing— end of the year. we're not seeing amy— end of the year. we're not seeing any evidence of it happening— seeing any evidence of it happening yet. it's still above 10. happening yet. it's still above iolpeopie— happening yet. it's still above iolpeopie are— happening yet. it's still above 10. people are still feeling 10. so people are still feeling rieir— 10. so people are still feeling rieir wages— 10. so people are still feeling their wages being massively

squeezed.— their wages being massively squeezed. and,— their wages being massively squeezed. and, you know, a iorecasr— squeezed. and, you know, a iorecasr .— squeezed. and, you know, a forecast , that's— squeezed. and, you know, a forecast , that's all very well. forecast, that's all very well. our— forecast, that's all very well. our ami— forecast, that's all very well. our amii you— forecast, that's all very well. but until you can— forecast, that's all very well. but until you can actually see it but until you can actually see ii happening,— but until you can actually see it happeningr vou— but until you can actually see it happening, you know, trusting that inflation— it happening, you know, trusting that inflation is— it happening, you know, trusting that inflation is going to going to that inflation is going to going ro drop— that inflation is going to going ro irop rice— that inflation is going to going ro irop iike a— that inflation is going to going to drop like a stone is quite a rough— to drop like a stone is quite a roaoir ask.— to drop like a stone is quite a tough ask. absolutely 39°c“ tough ask. absolutely well, rook.— tough ask. absolutely well, rock. i— tough ask. absolutely well, look, i wanted— tough ask. absolutely well, look, i wanted to— tough ask. absolutely well, look, i wanted to lead in on that because that as i've said, we'll be dropping probably albie at during this show. at some point during this show. and you will be no doubt morioorimo— and you will be no doubt hotfooting it— and you will be no doubt hotfooting it into the hotfooting it back into the sraiio— hotfooting it back into the studio - point - hotfooting it back into the studio - point to l hotfooting it back into the studio-point to us studio at some point to tell us all studio at some point to tell us aii aboar— studio at some point to tell us all about that. _ studio at some point to tell us all about that. but the other big— all about that. but the other pig medicai— all about that. but the other big medical story today big medical story for me today is—rme- is this and it's about the prior— is this and it's about the junior doctors.- is this and it's about the junior doctors. are junior doctors. and we are commo— junior doctors. and we are coming ro— junior doctors. and we are coming to .end - junior doctors. and we are coming to end of the latest coming to the end of the latest roami— coming to the end of the latest round-doctors- coming to the end of the latest round doctors strike round of junior doctors strike acriom—aiso- round of junior doctors strike. action._also stage action. but they did also stage imiasrriai— action. but they did also stage industrial action— action. but they did also stage industrial action between march action. but they did also stage ind|13thil action between march action. but they did also stage ind|13thil ac'15th between march action. but they did also stage ind|13thil ac'15th forneen march action. but they did also stage ind|13thil ac'15th for 72en march action. but they did also stage ind|13thil ac'15th for 72 hours. :h the 13th and 15th for 72 hours. now— the 13th and 15th for 72 hours. wow ar— the 13th and 15th for 72 hours. wow ar ripe— the 13th and 15th for 72 hours. now at the time,— the 13th and 15th for 72 hours. now at the time, were now at the time, there were werw — now at the time, there were very-sarong— now at the time, there were very, strong views this, now at the time, there were ve|there strong views this, now at the time, there were ve|there always] views this, now at the time, there were ve|there always is iews this, now at the time, there were ve|there always is with this, now at the time, there were ve|there always is with anything as there always is with anything medicai— as there always is with anything meiicai ami— as there always is with anything medical and strike related. a lot medical and strike related. a or or— medical and strike related. a or or peopie— medical and strike related. a lot of people deeply sympathetic to lot of people deeply sympathetic ro-iaea— lot of people deeply sympathetic ro-iaea ripar— lot of people deeply sympathetic to idea that they're not to the idea that they're not pairi— to the idea that they're not paid emowpm— to the idea that they're not paid enough. maybe doctors paid enough. maybe these doctors and paid enough. maybe these doctors ami-rmew— paid enough. maybe these doctors ami-rmew-ao— paid enough. maybe these doctors and-they-do with- and that they could do with percei— and that they could do with better conditions . and better working conditions. and i wmiersrama— better working conditions. and i understand—the- understand all of that. the massive caveat— understand all of that. the massive caveat to is if massive caveat to that is if mew— massive caveat to that is if mew 90— massive caveat to that is if mew coo-swipe,- massive caveat to that is if they go strike, then people massive caveat to that is if thejand strike, then people massive caveat to that is if thejand people le, then people massive caveat to that is if thejand people will|en people massive caveat to that is if thejand people will say, ieople massive caveat to that is if thejand people will say, well, die and people will say, well, mew—rise- they won't die because the creamy— they won't die because the qualitylcare_ they won't die because the quality care will still be quality of care will still be mere. — quality of care will still be mere—col quality of care will still be. mere—co piwg there. they'll manage to plug there. they'll manage to plug the—thel the gaps in their service. the iaresr— the gaps in their service. the latest figures— the gaps in their service. the latest figures show that there

risooo— latest figures show that there were 175,000 cancelled appointments and the excess creams— appointments and the excess deaths recorded— appointments and the excess deaths recorded in england alone rirree— deaths recorded in england alone were three times— deaths recorded in england alone were three times higher compared wiri— were three times higher compared wirir ripe— were three times higher compared wirir ripe awo— were three times higher compared with the two weeks— were three times higher compared with the two weeks prior to that srrike, — with the two weeks prior to that srrike, wiricir— with the two weeks prior to that strike, which is— with the two weeks prior to that strike, which is staggering. i mean, there's— strike, which is staggering. i mean, there's more detail on iris— mean, there's more detail on rmis as— mean, there's more detail on rmis as weii. — mean, there's more detail on this as well. is— mean, there's more detail on this as well. is it— mean, there's more detail on this as well. is it reasonable to this as well. is it reasonable ro swppesr— this as well. is it reasonable to suggest that— this as well. is it reasonable to suggest that by virtue of the prior— to suggest that by virtue of the iwmior iocrors— to suggest that by virtue of the junior doctors going on strike, peopie— junior doctors going on strike, peopie iii— junior doctors going on strike, people did die? _ junior doctors going on strike, people did die? 39°c“ mt; people did die? well, those are assumptions that the government will clearly be making and saying, look at what this is happening as a result of the call off these damaging strikes . but of course , it's very . but of course, it's very difficult to prove, isn't it? i mean, certainly it seems likely the figures of the excess deaths on march 11th to 24th. so while those strikes were going on and after them, three times higher excess deaths than the two weeks before or so, certainly conclusions will be drawn . but conclusions will be drawn. but matthew taylor, who's nhs confirmed confederation chief executive , is saying, you know, executive, is saying, you know, we can't be certain, but clearly

there would look like there was a link . i think it's worth a link. i think it's worth saying, though, that the doctors argument would be that people are dying all the time anyway because they're not able to deliver the standard of care that they should be. and this is part of the reason. okay. it's largely about pay, but part of the reason that they're striking that they feel that they're not able to do their job properly in the first place. and since the pandemic , there's been quite pandemic, there's been quite a high rate of excess deaths over and above what is normal, i guess , because of all the guess, because of all the pressures, the backlog , et pressures, the backlog, et cetera. and people not seeking care. yeah, no, indeed. and they are care. yeah, no, indeed. and they sawing— care. yeah, no, indeed. and they sawimp ripar— care. yeah, no, indeed. and they are saying that this— {e111 yeah, no, indeed. and they are saying that this is still a backroo— are saying that this is still a packiop ama— are saying that this is still a backlog and an— are saying that this is still a backlog and an excess death rate ripar— backlog and an excess death rate mar w-wee— backlog and an excess death rate that we've seen _ backlog and an excess death rate that we've seen throughout 2022, iampimp— that we've seen throughout 2022, pamgimp om— that we've seen throughout 2022, banging on a— that we've seen throughout 2022, pamgimp om a pir— that we've seen throughout 2022, banging on a bit there about the coronavirus crisis— banging on a bit there about the coronavirus crisis and the knock on eiiecrs— coronavirus crisis and the knock on eiiecrs oi— coronavirus crisis and the knock on effects of all— coronavirus crisis and the knock on effects of all of— coronavirus crisis and the knock on effects of all of this. i cam-r— on effects of all of this. i cam-r-iwr— on effects of all of this. i can't but wonder whether on effects of all of this. i- can't-but wonder whether or on effects of all of this. i can when but wonder whether or on effects of all of this. i can when figuresinder whether or on effects of all of this. i can when figures like ' whether or on effects of all of this. i can when figures like thiszther or on effects of all of this. i can when figures like this are r or not when figures like this are pwmpea— not when figures like this are pwmpei oar,— not when figures like this are pumped out, people are going to scarr— pumped out, people are going to scam-pir— pumped out, people are going to start-bitlsympathy. start losing a bit of sympathy for-swipes. — start losing a bit of sympathy for-strikes. .pay. for doctor strikes. 35% pay offer— for doctor strikes. 35% pay offer-they're - for doctor strikes. 35% pay offer they're really offer is what they're really airer. —mor- offer is what they're really after. _ not they| offer is what they're really. after. _not they get after. whether or not they get mar,— after. whether or not they get mar—mor- that, i mean, they're not acrimo—

that, i mean, they're not gearing-are- that, i mean, they're noti getting-are-so getting that, are they? so it ioesm-r—im- getting that, are they? so it. doesn't—in sight. doesn't show an end in sight. vow— doesn't show an end in sight. vow-kimo— doesn't show an end in sight. vow-rime oi— doesn't show an end in sight. you kind of couple that you then kind of couple that a bit— you then kind of couple that a pp, i— you then kind of couple that a pp, i mim— you then kind of couple that a bit, i think with— you then kind of couple that a bit, i think with the idea that rmeir— bit, i think with the idea that weir-oi— bit, i think with the idea that their-of their— bit, i think with the idea that their of their union their one of their union leaders mas— their one of their union leaders mas-moiiiaw— their one of their union leaders has-holiday at- their one of their union leaders has-holiday at the- their one of their union leaders has holiday at the time has been on holiday at the time of rise— has been on holiday at the time of ripe swipe— has been on holiday at the time of the strike and— has been on holiday at the time of the strike and his own family mew— of the strike and his own family rmew-wmier— of the strike and his own family threw-under the— of the strike and his own family threw under the bus. his threw him under the bus. his dad— threw him under the bus. his dad,-summarise. threw him under the bus. his dad, summarise as threw him under the bus. his- dad,-summarise as what dad, his uncle summarise as what a roi— dad, his uncle summarise as what a or or— dad, his uncle summarise as what a or or peopie— dad, his uncle summarise as what a lot of people will— dad, his uncle summarise as what a lot of people will be going amorph— a lot of people will be going rmrowpm sear— a lot of people will be going through bear in— a lot of people will be going through bear in mind, at the iasr— through bear in mind, at the iasr swipe,— through bear in mind, at the last strike, around 165,000 pariems— last strike, around 165,000 patients were _ last strike, around 165,000 patients were missed. his own ancie— patients were missed. his own uncle came out. _ patients were missed. his own uncle came out. doctor robert iaece iw— uncle came out. doctor robert lawrence, by the _ uncle came out. doctor robert lawrence, by the way, came out ami— lawrence, by the way, came out and said,— lawrence, by the way, came out and said, i-we— lawrence, by the way, came out and said, i've got— lawrence, by the way, came out and said, i've got a— lawrence, by the way, came out and said, i've got a hernia. i need— and said, i've got a hernia. i need ro— and said, i've got a hernia. i need o per— and said, i've got a hernia. i need o per ir— and said, i've got a hernia. i need to get it treated. i can't get— need to get it treated. i can't oer ir— need to get it treated. i can't get it treated. _ need to get it treated. i can't get it treated. we're all raxpawer— get it treated. we're all raxpawer .— get it treated. we're all raxpawer . as- get it treated. we're all taxpayer. as his dad said, he diam-r— taxpayer. as his dad said, he didn't realise.— taxpayer. as his dad said, he didn't realise. i— taxpayer. as his dad said, he didn't realise. i love this poore— didn't realise. i love this quop.,-w.y,- didn't realise. i love this quote, way, that didn't realise. i love this quote,-way, that son quote, by the way, that his son was— quote, by the way, that his son poore— quote, by the way, that his son pwore, rei— quote, by the way, that his son was, quote, red in— quote, by the way, that his son was, quote, red in the bed, which— was, quote, red in the bed, which i— was, quote, red in the bed, which i thought- was, quote, red in the bed, which i thought was fantastic. i. mean, he's opened the newspaper. he mean, he's opened the newspaper. we—ar— mean, he's opened the newspaper. we—ar a— mean, he's opened the newspaper. we—ar a wearing.- he says he was at a wedding. i-we— he says he was at a wedding. roe-peer— he says he was at a wedding. i-we-ieem ro— he says he was at a wedding. i've _been to a - he says he was at a wedding. i've-been to a five- he says he was at a wedding. i've been to a five day i've never been to a five day wearing— i've never been to a five day wedding .— i've never been to a five day wedding . i— i've never been to a five day wedding . i don't— i've never been to a five day wedding . i don't know any sign wedding. i don't know any sign of wedding. i don't know any sign oi-ir-s— wedding. i don't know any sign oi-ir-s a— wedding. i don't know any sign of-it's a broad,-it?l of him. it's a broad, isn't it? well, now apologised , well, he's now apologised, hasn't he? clearly he's the hasn't he? but clearly he's the co—chair of the bma junior doctors committee. it's a terrible look because, of course, presumably he's on holiday. he'll be getting houday holiday. he'll be getting holiday pay. he's not feeling

the effects in his pocket , is the effects in his pocket, is he? so that has created some very, very bad headlines. but i mean, i was outside saint thomas's hospital day before yesterday in the storm, and i was talking to some of the junior doctors, and they feel quite desperate. one of them was telling me that she routinely works 60 to 70 hours a week , works 60 to 70 hours a week, that most a lot of her friends have gone abroad because they can get more money. and i think the fact is, sure , the critical fact is, sure, doctors can make a very good living. and once you get past a certain point, you know, you can be on a six figure salary. you're very , very generous you're very, very generous pension schemes. but in the very early years, they're doing huge hours, antisocial hours . they've hours, antisocial hours. they've taken on this monumental student debt and they're earning what you what you'd get in in starbucks to begin with . okay. starbucks to begin with. okay. look, catherine, thank you very much. — look, catherine, thank you very much. catherine— look, catherine, thank you very much. catherine forster as gb wews— much. catherine forster as gb news political— much. catherine forster as gb news political reporter, loads of emaiis— news political reporter, loads of emaiis-im- news political reporter, loads of emails in that. news political reporter, loads. of emails-inithat. so of emails coming in on that. so mow-gor— of emails coming in on that. so mow-poi ripe— of emails coming in on that. so now-got the detail- now you've got the detail about the now you've got the detail about rise-we— now you've got the detail about rme-we-ie-

the idea that we might be breaking— the idea that we might be- breaking—anyway, breaking on this show anyway, ripar— breaking on this show anyway, mar—pome- breaking on this show anyway, mar—going ro- breaking on this show anyway, that going to strike that nurses are going to strike again—pav- that nurses are going to strike again—paw offer- that nurses are going to strike again—paw offer -i that nurses are going to strike again pay offer . we again or reject a pay offer. we are again or reject a pay offer. we aiso, oi— again or reject a pay offer. we are also, of course, discussing wirerirer— are also, of course, discussing wirerirer or— are also, of course, discussing wirerirer or-im— are also, of course, discussing whether or in light of these whether or not in light of these weari— whether or not in light of these excess death figures that have come-rise— excess death figures that have come-the last- excess death figures that have come the last doctors come out from the last doctors swipe— come out from the last doctors srriwe ap— come out from the last doctors strike up massively tripled, acrwaiiw— strike up massively tripled, acrwaiiw .— strike up massively tripled, actually . whether or not you now actually. whether or not you now mim— actually. whether or not you now rmimk ripar— actually. whether or not you now think that doctors,— actually. whether or not you now think that doctors, junior aocrors— think that doctors, junior doctors should be banned from srriwimp— doctors should be banned from striking because _ doctors should be banned from striking because if it is, if it is rearing— striking because if it is, if it is reading ro— striking because if it is, if it is leading to people actually dying,— is leading to people actually dyingr is— is leading to people actually dyingr is ripar— is leading to people actually dying, is that a— is leading to people actually dying, is that a bridge too far? wiri— dying, is that a bridge too far? wirir especi— dying, is that a bridge too far? with respect, it's— dying, is that a bridge too far? with respect, it's not really ripe— with respect, it's not really ripe sme— with respect, it's not really ripe as— with respect, it's not really the same as it— with respect, it's not really the same as it as if teachers go on the same as it as if teachers go or swim.— the same as it as if teachers go or srrike. i— the same as it as if teachers go on strike. i know— the same as it as if teachers go on strike. i know that's very oi— on strike. i know that's very serious. or train— on strike. i know that's very serious. or train drivers go on swim.— serious. or train drivers go on srrike. iirere— serious. or train drivers go on strike. there is— serious. or train drivers go on strike. there is a— serious. or train drivers go on strike. there is a key distinction- strike. there is a key. distinction-here distinction for me here where iocrors— distinction for me here where iocrors go — distinction for me here where iocrors go om— distinction for me here where doctors go on strike and then peopie— doctors go on strike and then peopie iie. — doctors go on strike and then people die. that— doctors go on strike and then people die. that is a very serious consequence. would the oowemmem—rwl serious consequence. would thel government—try to government have a duty to try to scop— government have a duty to try to srop—iric-s- government have a duty to try to stop—eric's already. stop the strikes? eric's already been— stop the strikes? eric's already been-oi— stop the strikes? eric's already been _of-have. been on loads of you have acrwaiiw— been on loads of you have acrwaiiw om— been on loads of you have actually, on this. no you cannot iam— actually, on this. no you cannot par-ow— actually, on this. no you cannot par-ow amomew - actually, on this. no you cannot. ban-by anyone. .would ban strikes by anyone. how would ononey— ban strikes by anyone. how would anyone-pey— ban strikes by anyone. how would anyone-pay increase- anyone get a pay increase nnnonn— anyone get a pay increase without striking? from anyone get a pay increase with(andtriking.7 from anyone get a pay increase with(and that's.7 from anyone get a pay increase with(and that's kind from anyone get a pay increase with(and that's kind of from anyone get a pay increase with(and that's kind of then eric. and that's kind of the argument— eric. and that's kind of the argument against it, isn't it.7 so argument against it, isn't it.7 so-ne— argument against it, isn't it.7 so-ne go. — argument against it, isn't it.7 so-ne go. rm- argument against it, isn't it.7 so we go. i'm going to be so there we go. i'm going to be returning—noel returning to this, but keep that question— returning to this, but keep that question-nun- returning to this, but keep that question-but now- returning to this, but keep that question but now right returning to this, but keep that questoday, but now right returning to this, but keep that questoday, it but now right returning to this, but keep that questoday, it is but now right returning to this, but keep that questoday, it is a but now right returning to this, but keep that questoday, it is a landmarkight returning to this, but keep that questoday, it is a landmark day here today, it is a landmark day because— here today, it is a landmark day because government's because it's the government's nome— because it's the government's name-one— because it's the government's battle the migrant battle to solve the migrant onen— battle to solve the migrant n— battle to solve the migrant n n— battle to solve the migrant crisis. it is the— battle to solve the migrant crisis. it is the first anniversary- crisis. it is the first anniversary the uk's

crisis. it is the first— anniversary .the uk's famous anniversary of the uk's famous nnonoo— anniversary of the uk's famous nnonoo neon— anniversary of the uk's famous rwanda deal, which was supposed to rwanda deal, which was supposed no see— rwanda deal, which was supposed to see thousands— rwanda deal, which was supposed to see thousands of— rwanda deal, which was supposed to see thousands of migrants seno— to see thousands of migrants eenn no— to see thousands of migrants sent to one— to see thousands of migrants sent to the country . and of sent to the country. and of course, since _ sent to the country. and of course, since then, albie absolutely— course, since then, albie absolutely no - course, since then, albie absolutely no asylum seekers nove— absolutely no asylum seekers nove been— absolutely no asylum seekers nove been one— absolutely no asylum seekers have been put on— absolutely no asylum seekers have been put on a plane to anne.— have been put on a plane to annea- nun— have been put on a plane to africa. but last— have been put on a plane to africa. but last june, a late intervention— africa. but last june, a late intervention by— africa. but last june, a late intervention by the european conn— intervention by the european coon nor— intervention by the european court for human— intervention by the european court for human rights blocked a mono— court for human rights blocked a mono carrying— court for human rights blocked a mono carrying o— court for human rights blocked a flight carrying a handful of migrants— flight carrying a handful of migrants taking off. and migrants from taking off. and toen— migrants from taking off. and teen-.— migrants from taking off. and toen-, sneuo- migrants from taking off. and last , suella braverman was last month, suella braverman was in rwanda,— last month, suella braverman was in rwanda, where— last month, suella braverman was in rwanda, where she inspected oeeonnooonon— in rwanda, where she inspected accommodation that was supposed to accommodation that was supposed no—nonee— accommodation that was supposed no—nonee asylum- to be used to house asylum eeeenk— to be used to house asylum seekers . she— to be used to house asylum seekers . she was so impressed by seekers. she was so impressed by it seekers. she was so impressed by n-ene— seekers. she was so impressed by n-ene joked— seekers. she was so impressed by it-she joked-she- it that she joked that she wanted— it that she joked that she wanted-name- it that she joked that she wanted name of the interior wanted the name of the interior designer,— wanted the name of the interior designer, which— wanted the name of the interior designer, which probably not designer, which is probably not green— designer, which is probably not green enun- — designer, which is probably not green enun- n— designer, which is probably not great stuff. if you're trying to say— great stuff. if you're trying to say - deterrent, - great stuff. if you're trying to say deterrent, but say this is a deterrent, but onere— say this is a deterrent, but mere-nun- say this is a deterrent, but there-but for- say this is a deterrent, but there but for all the there we go. but for all the onen— there we go. but for all the nongn-non — there we go. but for all the- tough .from .government, tough talk from the government, for on— tough talk from the government, for on on— tough talk from the government, for all of this— tough talk from the government, for all of this tough talk and were-no— for all of this tough talk and were-no geo- for all of this tough talk and we're to get planes we're going to get planes off one— we're going to get planes off one-eno— we're going to get planes off the-and people- we're going to get planes off- the-and people-rwanda, the ground and people to rwanda, the ground and people to rwanda, one-une— the ground and people to rwanda, one-une-oeon-e- the plan, just like the plan's meann— the plan, just like the plan's meant-none— the plan, just like the plan's meant take people meant to take the people to rwanda,— meant to take the people to rondo-non— meant to take the people toi rwanda,-not-got meant to take the people to- rwanda,-not-got off rwanda, has not actually got off the rwanda, has not actually got off one ground.— rwanda, has not actually got off one gnome-o— rwanda, has not actually got off the ground. a closer look the ground. here's a closer look at the ground. here's a closer look on-nne— the ground. here's a closer look at-the details.- the ground. here's a closer look at the details. okay. at some of the details. okay. ano— at some of the details. okay. and—important. at some of the details. okay. and important for and i think it's important for a bit and i think it's important for a onleonnexn— and i think it's important for a bit context because bit of context this because- ne-re—ononn we're going to be talking about this we're going to be talking about one o— we're going to be talking about one o ton— we're going to be talking about this a lot today. _ we're going to be talking about this a lot today. it— we're going to be talking about this a lot today. it is indeed exactn— this a lot today. it is indeed enemy-yen— this a lot today. it is indeed exactly year since exactly one year since boris johnson— exactly one year since boris johnson told— exactly one year since boris johnson told the— exactly one year since boris johnson told the house of commone— johnson told the house of. commons-secured johnson told the house of- commons-secured a deal commons that he'd secured a deal onen— commons that he'd secured a deal neon—oeyenn - with rwanda to send asylum eeeenn— with rwanda to send asylum seekers—as- with rwanda to send asylumi seekers—as part seekers to the country as part

of seekers to the country as part- on—govennnenn of the agreement, the government nonto— of the agreement, the government none-eno— of the agreement, the government would-£120 million- of the agreement, the government would £120 million to would send £120 million to rwanda— would send £120 million to rwanda eno— would send £120 million to rwanda and as— would send £120 million to rwanda and as i said, as yet, no , no migrants— rwanda and as i said, as yet, no , no migrants have— rwanda and as i said, as yet, no , no migrants have been flown oun— , no migrants have been flown on no— , no migrants have been flown on no annea— , no migrants have been flown out to africa to _ , no migrants have been flown out to africa to underline the one — out to africa to underline the one on— out to africa to underline the one on one — out to africa to underline the scale of the crisis— out to africa to underline the scale of the crisis . a total of scale of the crisis. a total of noose— scale of the crisis. a total of noose people— scale of the crisis. a total of 45,755 people crossed the cnonneo— 45,755 people crossed the cnonneo on— 45,755 people crossed the channel on small boats last year . ano— channel on small boats last year . one one— channel on small boats last year . and the government is preparing— . and the government is preponng nor— . and the government is preparing for maybe double that this preparing for maybe double that one year. — preparing for maybe double that one year. ano— preparing for maybe double that this year. and we— preparing for maybe double that this year. and we have not seen any— this year. and we have not seen any none— this year. and we have not seen any signs on— this year. and we have not seen any signs on n— this year. and we have not seen any signs of it stopping . so any signs of it stopping. so i wanted— any signs of it stopping. so i wanted no— any signs of it stopping. so i wanted to know— any signs of it stopping. so i wanted to know from you if you onene— wanted to know from you if you ennk onen— wanted to know from you if you think that rwanda _ wanted to know from you if you think that rwanda will ever work . it think that rwanda will ever work . n nearly— think that rwanda will ever work . it clearly hasn't— think that rwanda will ever work . it clearly hasn't been a deterrent— . it clearly hasn't been a deterrent yet. - . it clearly hasn't been a deterrent yet. and it clearly noon-n— deterrent yet. and it clearly noon-n eon— deterrent yet. and it clearly hasn't got off— deterrent yet. and it clearly hasn't got off the ground. i am joined— hasn't got off the ground. i am joined no— hasn't got off the ground. i am joined ny— hasn't got off the ground. i am joined now by albert made.com onene— joined now by albert made.com oneno, nno— joined now by albert made.com oneno, nno n— joined now by albert made.com bucha, who is a— joined now by albert made.com bucha, who is a political onene— bucha, who is a political analyst and— bucha, who is a political analyst and is- bucha, who is a political analyst and is in the rwandan capital— analyst and is in the rwandan capital on— analyst and is in the rwandan capital of kigali.— analyst and is in the rwandan capital of kigali. great to chat to capital of kigali. great to chat no you— capital of kigali. great to chat to you .— capital of kigali. great to chat no you . onene— capital of kigali. great to chat to you . thank you very, very to you. thank you very, very neon— to you. thank you very, very neon nor— to you. thank you very, very much for joining— to you. thank you very, very much forjoining us. can i ask, now— much forjoining us. can i ask, now no— much forjoining us. can i ask, now no one— much forjoining us. can i ask, how do the rwanda people feel aboun— how do the rwanda people feel about one— how do the rwanda people feel about the fact— how do the rwanda people feel about the fact that we actually noven-n— about the fact that we actually noven-n seno— about the fact that we actually haven't sent anyone to rwanda yet haven't sent anyone to rwanda yen .— haven't sent anyone to rwanda yen . wen,— haven't sent anyone to rwanda yen . wen, .— haven't sent anyone to rwanda yet . well, i would— haven't sent anyone to rwanda yet . well, i would say that it's

yet. well, i would say that it's non— yet. well, i would say that it's not one— yet. well, i would say that it's not that much— yet. well, i would say that it's not that much that that we noven-n— not that much that that we haven't welcomed any migrants yet,— haven't welcomed any migrants yen nun— haven't welcomed any migrants yen one no— haven't welcomed any migrants yen, one no one— haven't welcomed any migrants yet, but it's the whole circus onen— yet, but it's the whole circus one is— yet, but it's the whole circus that is happening in media about this that is happening in media about one note— that is happening in media about this whole issue,— that is happening in media about this whole issue, because, i , rwanda— this whole issue, because, i mean , rwanda has been called so mean, rwanda has been called so many— mean, rwanda has been called so many onen— mean, rwanda has been called so many names just because of what we deny— many names just because of what we neony see— many names just because of what we clearly oe— many names just because of what we clearly see as an— many names just because of what we clearly see as an internal powwow— we clearly see as an internal political problem— we clearly see as an internal political problem in the uk . political problem in the uk. enn— political problem in the uk. one one— political problem in the uk. this said rwandan- political problem in the uk. this said rwandan .- political problem in the uk. this said rwandan . the- political problem in the uk. this said rwandan . the mindset this said rwandan. the mindset is different for us. we understand that one wanted to be part of a problem . that is that part of a problem. that is that is a global problem problem not just for the uk , it's a western just for the uk, it's a western problem. migration has become a such a huge problem and instead of just being a bystander, rwanda has offered to be to to be be to be a part of the solution if possible. but you know, it's not that rwanda is begging to have this thing. we want to be part of the solution.

just a just a one detail for myself , i was just a just a one detail for myself, i was already a just a just a one detail for myself , i was already a refugee myself, i was already a refugee when i was a child before the independence of rwanda . i only independence of rwanda. i only became became rwandan again 29 years ago. so we most of us, we have an experience as we've just. just one. just. okay. all nonn— just. just one. just. okay. all none .— just. just one. just. okay. all none . wen,— just. just one. just. okay. all right . well, look,— just. just one. just. okay. all right . well, look, i- just one. just. okay. all right . well, look, i think the right. well, look, i think the sound— right. well, look, i think the sound owonw— right. well, look, i think the sound quality is— right. well, look, i think the sound quality is a bit. but can i sound quality is a bit. but can unen— sound quality is a bit. but can ijen wen— sound quality is a bit. but can ijen very quickly— sound quality is a bit. but can i just very quickly try one more winn— i just very quickly try one more win you?— i just very quickly try one more win you? .— i just very quickly try one more wnn you? w wen— i just very quickly try one more with you.7 i just want to i just very quickly try one more with you? i just want to know, one— with you? i just want to know, are are the people of rwanda the laughing— are are the people of rwanda the wowgnng o— are are the people of rwanda the wowgnng e on— are are the people of rwanda the laughing a bit at— are are the people of rwanda the laughing a bit at the united kingdom?— laughing a bit at the united kingdom? because as we can't get our kingdom? because as we can't get eon— kingdom? because as we can't get eon noeennen— kingdom? because as we can't get our act together and— kingdom? because as we can't get our act together and send anyone to wow— our act together and send anyone no you owe— our act together and send anyone no you owe wno— our act together and send anyone to you guys who are— our act together and send anyone to you guys who are ready and wining— to you guys who are ready and willing oo— to you guys who are ready and willing to help,— to you guys who are ready and willing to help, i— to you guys who are ready and willing to help, i don't think we laugh— willing to help, i don't think we laugh about— willing to help, i don't think we laugh about it because neeowee— we laugh about it because because in— we laugh about it because because if the— we laugh about it because because if the crisis if the humanitarian— because if the crisis if the humanitarian crisis and for us, we believe— humanitarian crisis and for us, we believe that— humanitarian crisis and for us, we believe that that that it's noo— we believe that that that it's not renew— we believe that that that it's not really o— we believe that that that it's not really a very— we believe that that that it's not really a very healthy, a neonnw— not really a very healthy, a healthy political game to play winn— healthy political game to play wnn people— healthy political game to play with people lives. m; with people lives. so we are wen— with people lives. so we are wen sno— with people lives. so we are very sad about this whole thing that the way the way it turns

out in the uk, we are very sorry actually, that it turns akua. all right. and again , that was all right. and again, that was just to be part of the solution . all right. but look, thank d all right. but look, thank you . all right. but look, thank you wen,— . all right. but look, thank you very, very— . all right. but look, thank you wen, wen neon.— all right. but look, thank you very, very much. sorry, it was enon— very, very much. sorry, it was enon eno— very, very much. sorry, it was short and sweet,— very, very much. sorry, it was short and sweet, but great to onen— short and sweet, but great to one winn— short and sweet, but great to one win now— short and sweet, but great to chat with you and care. chat with you and take care. okav- — chat with you and take care. - okay. _ ratzenberger okay. that's albert ratzenberger onene— there, who is a political ononen— there, who is a political ononen-nn- there, who is a political analyst. in rwanda for there, who is a political- analyst.-in rwanda for us. analyst. he is in rwanda for us. so analyst. he is in rwanda for us. so wnon— analyst. he is in rwanda for us. so we i— analyst. he is in rwanda for us. so what i managed to glean from new— so what i managed to glean from that, essentially— so what i managed to glean from that, essentially i— so what i managed to glean from that, essentially i know the audio— that, essentially i know the audio wasn't— that, essentially i know the audio wasn't particularly great, but audio wasn't particularly great, own—no- audio wasn't particularly great, own—no gleanl audio wasn't particularly great,- but_to glean from audio wasn't particularly great,- buthas_to glean from audio wasn't particularly great, but was that to glean from audio wasn't particularly great, but was that really to glean from audio wasn't particularly great, but was that really rwanda n from audio wasn't particularly great, but was that really rwanda isrom that was that really rwanda is neon— that was that really rwanda is ready one— that was that really rwanda is ready and waiting. they are onene— ready and waiting. they are were-were— there. they were willing nonnenoonoe— there. they were willingi participants-of there. they were willing - participants-of what participants to be part of what is participants to be part of what n-nenwgee— participants to be part of what is-refugee and- participants to be part of what is refugee and asylum is a global refugee and asylum problem— is a global refugee and asylum woolen-wen— is a global refugee and asylum problem .weu .— is a global refugee and asylum problem .well , we - is a global refugee and asylum problem well , we can't get problem and well, we can't get our problem and well, we can't get eon— problem and well, we can't get our act together— problem and well, we can't get our act together and actually let our act together and actually wen onen — our act together and actually wen onen ne — our act together and actually let them be a— our act together and actually let them be a part of it so that we go— let them be a part of it so that we go no— let them be a part of it so that we go noo— let them be a part of it so that we go now bad news for manchester— we go now bad news for manchester united fans as fergie noon-o— manchester united fans as fergie noon-n been— manchester united fans as fergie hasn't been invited— manchester united fans as fergie hasn't been invited the hasn't been invited to the coronation— hasn't been invited to the coronation okay all right. coronation now. okay all right. not coronation now. okay all right. won-newne— coronation now. okay all right. won-fennelon— not that fergie. i am, of course, talking about sarah ferguson.— course, talking about sarah ferguson-_no- course, talking about sarah ferguson. to take course, talking about sarah. ferguson.-to take a ferguson. i'm going to take a noon— ferguson. i'm going to take a look on— ferguson. i'm going to take a look on none— ferguson. i'm going to take a look at some of— ferguson. i'm going to take a look at some of her most controversial— look at some of her most controversial moments, including a controversial moments, including o onene— controversial moments, including n more noe— controversial moments, including a bizarre toe sucking scandal. ano— a bizarre toe sucking scandal. woo .— a bizarre toe sucking scandal. also i eno— a bizarre toe sucking scandal. also i also also— a bizarre toe sucking scandal. also i also also find out what noooeneo— also i also also find out what noooeneo no— also i also also find out what happened to the— also i also also find out what happened to the man accused of wooing— happened to the man accused of owning eggs— happened to the man accused of owning eggs on— happened to the man accused of lobbing eggs at our dear king. i'm lobbing eggs at our dear king. n-n powwow— lobbing eggs at our dear king. i'm patrick christys on gb news nnnnn-e— i'm patrick christys on gb news

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channel welcome i channel- welcome back. unanno- welcome back. now unanno— welcome back. now let's get to a son— welcome back. now let's get to a son onen— welcome back. now let's get to a enon one on— welcome back. now let's get to a story that gb news— welcome back. now let's get to a story that gb news broke neenenon— story that gb news broke neenenon .— story that gb news broke neenenon . noe- story that gb news broke yesterday . joe biden has been yesterday. joe biden has been accused— yesterday. joe biden has been accused of— yesterday. joe biden has been accused of snubbing britain on his accused of snubbing britain on no enn— accused of snubbing britain on no one no— accused of snubbing britain on his trip to northern ireland and the his trip to northern ireland and one renowne— his trip to northern ireland and the republic. he— his trip to northern ireland and the republic. he didn't fly the union— the republic. he didn't fly the union nog— the republic. he didn't fly the union flee on— the republic. he didn't fly the union flag on his car when he in— union flag on his car when he was in belfast,— union flag on his car when he was in belfast, but the irish nog— was in belfast, but the irish flee noe— was in belfast, but the irish flag has been— was in belfast, but the irish flag has been on display since he flag has been on display since ne needed— flag has been on display since he headed south.— flag has been on display since he headed south. gb news nigel farage— he headed south. gb news nigel nonee nones— he headed south. gb news nigel nonge takes no— he headed south. gb news nigel farage takes up the story. let's newe— farage takes up the story. let's nowe o— farage takes up the story. let's nowe o nook— farage takes up the story. let's have a look at— farage takes up the story. let's have a look at how they behave wnen— have a look at how they behave wnen thev're — have a look at how they behave when they're here. gin when they're here. let's go for president obama in enniskillen , president obama in enniskillen, northern ireland, in 2013. zahawi was here. he was the american president and he's flying the american national flag. and yes, for those watching on television, you can see inside the red circle there is the union flag or union jack, if you prefer. and then when joe biden was president and he came

to scotland in 2021 for cop26, what flags did he fly on his car on that day? but very easy to see that he flew in scotland . see that he flew in scotland. yes, the american flag and there it is, the union flag being flown as well tuesday night in northern ireland. what did the beast have in terms of flags ? beast have in terms of flags? and here it is. here's the evidence we need . and there's evidence we need. and there's the american flag , the stars and the american flag, the stars and stripes. and there is a flag with a presidential seal. he wilfully and deliberately chose and opted along with the white house not to fly the union flag. now, you know , staying a member now, you know, staying a member of the union is perhaps even more controversial in scotland than it is in some ways or numerically , at least in numerically, at least in northern ireland. i believe this to be a deliberate snub. well, there we go. that's nigel forage.— there we go. that's nigel farage. they're- quint; gt» that's nigel farage. they're pointing "»s»tt; gt» that's nigel farage. they're pointing that own— farage. they're pointing that own ano— farage. they're pointing that out. and that— farage. they're pointing that out. and that story has gone far one— out. and that story has gone far and wine. — out. and that story has gone far and wine. we,— out. and that story has gone far and wide. we, of— out. and that story has gone far and wide. we, of course, did onen— and wide. we, of course, did

soon-on— and wide. we, of course, did soon-on en- and wide. we, of course, did start-on gb news. and wide. we, of course, did start on gb news to start it here on gb news to onenes— start it here on gb news to discuss this— start it here on gb news to discuss this further, i'm joined by discuss this further, i'm joined on one— discuss this further, i'm joined by the conservative party sir by the conservative party mp sir john—thankl john redwood. sirjohn, thank you— john redwood. sirjohn, thank now-neon.— john redwood. sirjohn, thank now-neon. to— john redwood. sirjohn, thank you much. to great john redwood. sirjohn, thank- you-much. to great-you you very much. to great have you on-len-e— you very much. to great have you on-len-e wen— you very much. to great have you on-let's just start- on the show. let's just start winn— on the show. let's just start won-onene- on the show. let's just start with _that's okay. i on the show. let's just start with that's okay. do with that, if that's okay. do you— with that, if that's okay. do- you _ deliberate you think that was a deliberate enun— you think that was a deliberate snub-one— you think that was a deliberate snub-and should- you think that was a deliberate snub and should we be snub by biden and should we be wen,— snub by biden and should we be wen-offended— snub by biden and should we be very,-offended by- snub by biden and should we be very, offended by it ? very, very offended by it? wen.— very, very offended by it? won. in— very, very offended by it? well, it was _ very, very offended by it? well, it was clearly- very, very offended by it? well, it was clearly misjudged because a big part of his audience was the unionist community in northern ireland. they were unwilling to rejoin storm because of the way he had backed the eu over the settlement concerning northern ireland. and they were already saying to the media that they felt that joe biden was on the side of the republic of ireland and the eu and was not independent or neutral when it came to unionism and the united kingdom. so to choose not to nouow— kingdom. so to choose not to follow one— kingdom. so to choose not to follow the normal— g: so to choose not to follow the normal procedure of flying— follow the normal procedure of flying une— follow the normal procedure of flying one none— follow the normal procedure of flying the flags of the two wes— flying the flags of the two countries concerned in the visit wu— countries concerned in the visit wru rernorree— countries concerned in the visit will reinforce that— countries concerned in the visit will reinforce that feeling ononeer— will reinforce that feeling amongst the— will reinforce that feeling amongst the unionist community. vow-we— amongst the unionist community. vow-we reen— amongst the unionist community. you've been tweeting,_ amongst the unionist community. you've been tweeting, sir- amongst the unionist community. you've been tweeting, sirjohn. i'm just going to read one of them out now. president biden withdrew too abruptly from

afghanistan without even telling the uk backed eu policy, which undermined the good friday agreement , presided over agreement, presided over damaging intelligence leaks, lost influence with saudi , which lost influence with saudi, which has put the oil price up . do you has put the oil price up. do you think he's thoroughly incompetent as well as hating the united kingdom ? well, i the united kingdom? well, i think those are for- " ut»: g:�* well, i think those are for unfortunate exonnree— think those are for unfortunate examples where— think those are for unfortunate examples where the united states noun— examples where the united states noun noe— examples where the united states noun nee gone— examples where the united states policy has gone awry and we deeperoren— policy has gone awry and we desperately want the united sroree— desperately want the united snoree ro — desperately want the united states to succeed and do well. t hey— states to succeed and do well. rnen ore— states to succeed and do well. rnen ow— states to succeed and do well. they are our main— states to succeed and do well. they are our main ally, the worm-e— they are our main ally, the world's strongest military powe— world's strongest military powe eno— world's strongest military power, and we- world's strongest military power, and we normally agree wron— power, and we normally agree wrrn o— power, and we normally agree wrrn o n.— power, and we normally agree wrrn o no or— power, and we normally agree with a lot of what they're doing wron— with a lot of what they're doing won one— with a lot of what they're doing with the promotion of democracy and freedom — with the promotion of democracy and freedom worldwide. but i think— and freedom worldwide. but i own onero— and freedom worldwide. but i think there have— and freedom worldwide. but i think there have been some very dangerous wobbles in the last couple of years with president biden. i think the hasty couple of years with president biden . i think the hasty retreat biden. i think the hasty retreat from— biden. i think the hasty retreat from afghanistan— »:»t" i think the hasty retreat from afghanistan proved to be wen— from afghanistan proved to be wen oonogrng— from afghanistan proved to be very damaging and costly , very damaging and costly, ouowrne— very damaging and costly, allowing the— very damaging and costly, allowing the taliban back in win— allowing the taliban back in won on— allowing the taliban back in with all the— allowing the taliban back in with all the awful consequences oner— with all the awful consequences that followed _ with all the awful consequences that followed and _ with all the awful consequences that followed and exposed ours one— that followed and exposed ours one one— that followed and exposed ours and other allied— that followed and exposed ours and other allied troops to great onnewnee— and other allied troops to great difficulties in— and other allied troops to great difficulties in scrambling home.

and wewe— difficulties in scrambling home. and nw— difficulties in scrambling home. and we've now seen— difficulties in scrambling home. and we've now seen that- difficulties in scrambling home. and we've now seen that in the case of the very difficult settlement between the eu, the uk , northern ireland and the uk, northern ireland and the repubuc uk, northern ireland and the republic , the us was not republic, the us was not prepared to intervene in a balanced way and we've ended up with an agreement at which unionists find completely unacceptable. do you think that there's something slightly ironic about the fact that a lot of people in this country didn't like former president trump? in fact, i seem to remember a t cut: t:»7 in fact, i seem to remember a blimp of fact, i seem to remember a blimp or nin— fact, i seem to remember a blimp or nrn wearing— fact, i seem to remember a blimp of him wearing a— fact, i seem to remember a blimp of him wearing a nappy being nonrea— of him wearing a nappy being hoisted above— of him wearing a nappy being hoisted above our capital city wnier— hoisted above our capital city wnier ne— hoisted above our capital city whilst he was— hoisted above our capital city whilst he was in— hoisted above our capital city whilst he was in the country . hoisted above our capital city whilst he was in the country. he eno— whilst he was in the country. he and ner— whilst he was in the country. he one we rnoee— whilst he was in the country. he and yet those same people were eneenne— and yet those same people were oneenng for— and yet those same people were cheering for joe— and yet those same people were cheering for joe biden, who and yet those same people were cheering forjoe biden, who beat cheering for joe biden, who beat trump— cheering for joe biden, who beat none or— cheering for joe biden, who beat none or one— cheering for joe biden, who beat trump at the last— cheering for joe biden, who beat trump at the last election. and oerwouw— trump at the last election. and oerwoun, roe— trump at the last election. and actually, joe biden's terrible for nrrrorn— actually, joe biden's terrible for britain . _ actually, joe biden's terrible for britain . vorttt t for britain. well, i think it's certainly right that joe biden's policies in some respects have been damaging to us. and the western alliance is now, i respect the normal conventions . respect the normal conventions. the united states will choose wno— the united states will choose wno re— the united states will choose wno is going— the united states will choose wno is going ro— the united states will choose who is going to be its president.— who is going to be its

president. and it's our job to wow— president. and it's our job to work winn— president. and it's our job to work with whoever they choose. ani— work with whoever they choose. and in — work with whoever they choose. nni in non— work with whoever they choose. and in nor on— work with whoever they choose. and i'm not on the— work with whoever they choose. and i'm not on the side- work with whoever they choose. and i'm not on the side of- work with whoever they choose. and i'm not on the side of the republicans or the democrats. i'm the of the united i'm on the side of the united kingdom and i try to assess the impact of policy , whether it be impact of policy, whether it be democrat republican , upon our democrat or republican, upon our interests . and at the moment, we interests. and at the moment, we have a democrat president and he has in the ways i've just identified , made life identified, made life considerably more difficult for the united kingdom as a leading ally and a friend of democracy. i just wonder whether the oroiien — i just wonder whether the problem runs— i just wonder whether the problem runs a bit deeper. . problem runs a bit deeper. sir john— problem runs a bit deeper. sir john i— problem runs a bit deeper. sir john i mean— problem runs a bit deeper. sir john i mean, look,— problem runs a bit deeper. sir john i mean, look, i've- problem runs a bit deeper. sir john i mean, look, i've gone on record before and i don't mind going on record saying this again, which is i find it very difficult to believe that joe biden complete tight biden has his complete tight grip of control over america. i find that very, very hard to believe that there aren't a cabal of people behind the scenes who are frankly having to run the country a lot of the time. his behalf. if that time. on his behalf. and if that is case, it just makes me is the case, it just makes me wonder these wonder who is making these decisions is it decisions and actually, is it worse than just worse for britain than just having might having joe biden? he might be have about ireland and have his views about ireland and northern ireland if there are actually the actually people behind the scenes for whatever

scenes there who, for whatever reason, they reason, have decided that they really us. john, really don't like us. but, john, thank very much . great to thank you very much. great to chat you as to chat to you as always, to respect who the americans choose as and accept respect who the americans choose as he and accept respect who the americans choose as he makes and accept respect who the americans choose as he makes the and accept respect who the americans choose as he makes the decisions. that he makes the decisions. and if he is delegated those decisions,— and if he is delegated those decisions, they— and if he is delegated those decisions, they are still made in nie— decisions, they are still made in no none— decisions, they are still made in no . — decisions, they are still made in his name. fair- decisions, they are still made in his name . , g decisions, they are still made in his name . . g , in his name. fair enough. fair enough. look, sirjohn, in his name. fair enough. fair enough. look, sir john, thank you very much, sir. john redwood, conservative party mp. right. i've got some breaking news for you, too . serving news for you, too. serving metropolitan police officers have been dismissed over discriminatory messages they sent colleagues in a whatsapp sent to colleagues in a whatsapp group, including about group, including some about katie price's disabled son. so that's the breaking news for you now that to serve metropolitan police officers have been dismissed over discriminatory messages sent to colleagues messages they sent to colleagues in a whatsapp group, including some about price's some about katie price's disabled son, so that we go now loads more to come between now and 4:00. king charles has been out about today, but find out and about today, but find out and about today, but find out which high figure out which high profile figure has invited to next has not been invited to next month's coronation . and keir month's coronation. and keir starmer has been criticised for what he got up to when he was the head of the crown

prosecution service. but first, it's the latest headlines with rory . thank it's the latest headlines with rory. thank you, it's the latest headlines with rory . thank you, patrick. the rory. thank you, patrick. the latest from the gb newsroom nurses could join junior doctors striking over pay if they have rejected the government's latest offer. the royal college of nursing is due to announce the results of a ballot later. union members voted on a 5% pay rise this year as well as a cash payment for last year. unison's result is expected over the next few days . a student who threw few days. a student who threw eggs at the king in york has been found guilty of threatening behaviour. 23 year old patrick thelwell through at least five eggs at the monarch during a visit to york minster in november last year. visit to york minster in november last year . the judge november last year. the judge sentenced thelwell to a 12 month community order with 100 hours of unpaid work. he has pleaded not guilty , arguing he acted in

not guilty, arguing he acted in defence against what he called the violence carried out by the british state at a mother and father have been found guilty of the murder of their baby son on christmas day. stephen boden and shannon marsden inflicted repeated acts of severe violence on their ten month old boy, finley . 71 bruises and 57 finley. 71 bruises and 57 fractures were found on his body. finley had only been placed back in their care for 39 days before he was killed. that's despite social workers asking for a longer transition penod. asking for a longer transition period . the us president has period. the us president has returned to his ancestral roots , arriving in county mayo. it's the final day of his four day trip to ireland, which former taoiseach enda kenny said was the longest presidential visit ever to the island. president biden is expected to make a private visit to the mayo roscommon hospice that is dedicated to his son, beau, who

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mark steyn. okay. welcome back. after a dramatic week for the royal family, king charles was on safer ground today. he's been at the royal military academy at sandhurst officer sandhurst to review officer cadets. and comes a couple of cadets. and it comes a couple of days since it was confirmed that prince harry will attend his father's but meghan father's coronation. but meghan won't joining him .at father's coronation. but meghan won't joining him . at least won't be joining him. at least meghan could have been there on may the 6th. it's emerged that prince andrew's former wife , prince andrew's former wife, sarah ferguson, hasn't even been invited. that's according to reports . that's what i want to reports. that's what i want to talk about now, as well as that numpty you just done for numpty you just got done for egging king. but there we egging the king. but there we go. news royal go. with me now is gb news royal reporter walker. reporter cameron walker. cameron, thank you very much. shall with sarah shall we start with sarah ferguson? she's ferguson? so reportedly she's not invited. that's a not even been invited. that's a shock, isn't it? yes. so according to a l yr 4.3.3 so according to a number t t c7 “4115 so according to a number of sources, as reports in the powere— sources, as reports in the. papers-channels , sources, as reports in the- papers-channels , sarah papers and other channels, sarah rergweon— papers and other channels, sarah rergweon noe— papers and other channels, sarah ferguson has not— papers and other channels, sarah ferguson has not been invited to the coronation— ferguson has not been invited to the coronation itself , even the coronation itself, even inowgn— the coronation itself, even though there _ the coronation itself, even though there is- the coronation itself, even though there is at least one snore— though there is at least one spare seer,— though there is at least one spare seat, because meghan , who spare seat, because meghan, who was spare seat, because meghan, who inner,— spare seat, because meghan, who inwirei, ie— spare seat, because meghan, who was invited, is not— spare seat, because meghan, who was invited, is not going to be going.— was invited, is not going to be going. nowewer— was invited, is not going to be going. however, from my understanding from according to the understanding from according to one papers— understanding from according to one nooere inn— understanding from according to the papers this morning, sarah rergweon— the papers this morning, sarah rergweon noe— the papers this morning, sarah ferguson has been invited to the

nriwore— ferguson has been invited to the nriwore ire— ferguson has been invited to the private its events,— ferguson has been invited to the private its events, family eenr— private its events, family eenr or— private its events, family events at buckingham palace, post—coronation— events at buckingham palace, post—coronation ,— events at buckingham palace, post—coronation , which is kind post—coronation, which is kind of post—coronation, which is kind or surprising— post—coronation, which is kind of surprising because sarah reneweon— of surprising because sarah rergweon or— of surprising because sarah ferguson at the— of surprising because sarah ferguson at the moment is on onio— ferguson at the moment is on one wini— ferguson at the moment is on one wine or— ferguson at the moment is on this kind of publicity drive for the this kind of publicity drive for we ne— this kind of publicity drive for the new novel— this kind of publicity drive for the new novel she has written oni— the new novel she has written and in— the new novel she has written and in even— the new novel she has written and in every media appearance or inierwiew— and in every media appearance or inrerwiew in— and in every media appearance or inrerwiew in big— and in every media appearance or interview, in big contrast to worn— interview, in big contrast to worn oni— interview, in big contrast to harry and meghan over their merin— harry and meghan over their media appearances over the last few nonrne— media appearances over the last few months, she— media appearances over the last few months, she has sung the pionee— few months, she has sung the noises-wing— few months, she has sung the praises-king and- few months, she has sung the praises king and queen praises of the king and queen conson— praises of the king and queen coneon on— praises of the king and queen coneon on o— praises of the king and queen consort on a-of- consort on a number of. occasions,-known consort on a number of- occasions,-known them occasions, she has known them wen— occasions, she has known them wen weir— occasions, she has known them wen weii sine— occasions, she has known them very well since she— occasions, she has known them very well since she was a child. ioeoin— very well since she was a child. really—royal- very well since she was a child. really—royal circles. really she was in royal circles before— really she was in royal circles before-married— really she was in royal circles before married the duke of before she married the duke of work. — before she married the duke of work. inen— before she married the duke of york. they clearly— before she married the duke of york. they clearly they're now iiworeei. — york. they clearly they're now divorced. _there'sl divorced. but i think there's a inference— divorced. but i think there's a difference between public difference here between public life difference here between public rife-rergweon- difference here between public life ferguson and the life of sarah ferguson and the nriwore— life of sarah ferguson and the nriwore-oi— life of sarah ferguson and the private-of sarah- life of sarah ferguson and the private of sarah ferguson . private life of sarah ferguson. weir.— private life of sarah ferguson. weir. ire— private life of sarah ferguson. well, it's interesting— private life of sarah ferguson. well, it's interesting that- private life of sarah ferguson. well, it's interesting that you should raise that. we've got a little of fact file little bit of a fact file actually on some of sarah ferguson's moments so ferguson's standout moments so we have a quick look we can have a quick look at fergie's your life, fergie's life this is your life, as were. so it's fairto fergie's life this is your life, as were. so it's fair to say as it were. so it's fair to say she's a colourful character. she married prince in 1986, she's a colourful character. she mra'ied prince in 1986, she's a colourful character. she mra weddinge in 1986, she's a colourful character. she mra wedding that in 1986, she's a colourful character. she mra wedding that was in 1986, she's a colourful character. she mra wedding that was watched by in a wedding that was watched by an people an estimated 500 million people around world. and they around the world. and they separated that long after , separated not that long after, did and later that did they? 1992 and later that year , she was photographed year, she was photographed having sucked by

having her toes sucked by american businessman john bryan in that you get in images that you cannot get out of your retina . in 2010, she out of your retina. in 2010, she was caught up in a scandal after offering an undercover reporter access to andrew in return for half £1 million. and then in 2012, turkey issued an international arrest warrant after fergie filmed a tv documentary in the country a few years earlier. so it's a it's a chequered past. it's a chequered past . do you think that king past. do you think that king charles has let that go or clearly not. no invite? well, it's interesting— clearly not. no invite? well, it's interesting because- t \ut» »t7 well, it's interesting because when irinee— it's interesting because when irinee iniiin— it's interesting because when prince philip was alive, fergie reooneon— prince philip was alive, fergie was reportedly banned both was reportedly banned from both sonirinenon— was reportedly banned from both sandringham and— was reportedly banned from both sandringham and balmoral because he sandringham and balmoral because ne iii— sandringham and balmoral because ne iii-renn— sandringham and balmoral because he did-really want— sandringham and balmoral because he did really want to be in he did not really want to be in ine— he did not really want to be in one sorre— he did not really want to be in one eoneoe-— he did not really want to be in the same-as him.- he did not really want to be in the same as him. as for the same room as him. as for king— the same room as him. as for nine monies,— the same room as him. as for king charles, clearly a different— king charles, clearly a different generation. i think the different generation. i think rne wing— different generation. i think one king in— different generation. i think the king in the— different generation. i think the king in the last month or so ro— the king in the last month or so ro ie— the king in the last month or so seems to be in— the king in the last month or so seems to be in a— the king in the last month or so seems to be in a pretty forgiving— seems to be in a pretty forgiving mood for various nerneir— forgiving mood for various members family. so members of his family. so i inni— members of his family. so i wink-oe- members of his family. so i oninw-oe o- members of his family. so i think as a family, think privately, as a family, onen— think privately, as a family, onen oe— think privately, as a family, inen wen— think privately, as a family, they are very much united. but eieorn— they are very much united. but eieorn onere — they are very much united. but clearly there is— they are very much united. but clearly there is a— they are very much united. but clearly there is a public front one— clearly there is a public front one nonorenn— clearly there is a public front the monarchy needs to put on, one— the monarchy needs to put on, on eeoeeioin— the monarchy needs to put on, and especially for— the monarchy needs to put on, and especially for the coronation— and especially for the coronation ,- and especially for the coronation , one of the most coronation, one of the most innononr— coronation, one of the most inoononr one— coronation, one of the most important days of the king's iiie. — important days of the king's we so— important days of the king's iiie. so-ir- important days of the king's life. so _it was- important days of the king's life. so it was thought life. so perhaps it was thought it life. so perhaps it was thought ir-ie— life. so perhaps it was thought ir-ie unwise— life. so perhaps it was thought it-be unwise for- life. so perhaps it was thoughti

it-be unwise for-to it would be unwise for fergie to be it would be unwise for fergie to ie on— it would be unwise for fergie to ie on-inwire— it would be unwise for fergie to be on-invite list. - it would be unwise for fergie to be on invite list. “4115 be on the invite list. yes. weir.— be on the invite list. yes. weir. onero— be on the invite list. yes. well, there we— be on the invite list. yes. well, there we go. we'll bring you that as we get it. you more on that as we get it. there story there has been another story there town, hasn't there? and there in town, hasn't there? and that well, rather that is that, well, a rather colourful character. again it's full colourful characters full of colourful characters this to call full of colourful characters this the to call full of colourful characters this the numpty to call full of colourful characters this the numpty . to call full of colourful characters this the numpty . this to call full of colourful characters this the numpty . this guy all full of colourful characters this the numpty . this guy threw him the numpty. this guy threw eggs at king and he has now been found in court. yeah, found guilty in court. yeah, i mean, i was there— found guilty in court. yeah, i mean, i was there ,- r: g two " cut». 2 yeah, i mean, i was there , patrick. mean, i was there, patrick. i one— mean, i was there, patrick. i one eggs— mean, i was there, patrick. i saw the eggs being chucked at the saw the eggs being chucked at one wing. — saw the eggs being chucked at one wing. soon— saw the eggs being chucked at the king. stop the press. remind— the king. stop the press. remind-what- the king. stop the press. remind-what that- the king. stop the press. remind .what that was the king. stop the press. remind what that was like. remind me what that was like. so where you? what was going where were you? what was going on? so at on? so it was in york at iiiekiegore— on? so it was in york at micklegate bar,- ut»7 so it was in york at micklegate bar, is on? so it was in york at- micklegate bar,-is this micklegate bar, which is this oneienr— micklegate bar, which is this ancient mediaeval tower, the old city ancient mediaeval tower, the old ein-ono— ancient mediaeval tower, the old ein-ono one— ancient mediaeval tower, the old city-and the king- ancient mediaeval tower, the old city and the king and city walls and the king and oween— city walls and the king and queen consort— city walls and the king and queen consort got out of their car queen consort got out of their one— queen consort got out of their one onen— queen consort got out of their car and they were— queen consort got out of their car and they were going to meet the dignitaries— car and they were going to meet the dignitaries-had- the dignitaries who had assembled.— the dignitaries who had assembled. was assembled. and then there was a pioneer— assembled. and then there was a nionneo—ior- assembled. and then there was a planned—for them- assembled. and then there was a planned for them to planned walkabout for them to green— planned walkabout for them to greer one— planned walkabout for them to greet the crowds,— planned walkabout for them to greet the crowds, as they do a numeri— greet the crowds, as they do a number-occasions- greet the crowds, as they do a number occasions wins. so number of occasions wins. so wnen— number of occasions wins. so wnen one— number of occasions wins. so wnen one wing— number of occasions wins. so when the king got the when the king got to the dignitaries,— when the king got to the. dignitaries,-started dignitaries, the eggs started being— dignitaries, the eggs started being-or— dignitaries, the eggs started being-or-niel dignitaries, the eggs started. being-at-his close being hurled at him. his close proreerion— being hurled at him. his close protection officer— being hurled at him. his close protection officer very quickly put protection officer very quickly owr nineeii— protection officer very quickly put himself between the king and the put himself between the king and one egos— put himself between the king and one eoge one— put himself between the king and the eggs and ushered the king own. — the eggs and ushered the king own. so— the eggs and ushered the king own. so ori— the eggs and ushered the king away. so all five— the eggs and ushered the king away. so all five of the eggs nieeeo. — away. so all five of the eggs nieeeo. inen— away. so all five of the eggs missed. they were plainclothes noiiee—neoroi police officers. the court heard roen— police officers. the court heard rooon in— police officers. the court heard noon in one— police officers. the court heard today in the crowds who grabbed this today in the crowds who grabbed one on— today in the crowds who grabbed one guy wno— today in the crowds who grabbed one guy wno ie— today in the crowds who grabbed this guy who is called patrick

ineiweii— this guy who is called patrick ineiweii .— this guy who is called patrick thelwell . he's— this guy who is called patrick thelwell . he's 23 years old. thelwell. he's 23 years old. irrinerion— thelwell. he's 23 years old. extinction rebellion, and was one— extinction rebellion, and was one ne— extinction rebellion, and was one ne wo— extinction rebellion, and was and he was hurling like he was neiiing— and he was hurling like he was yelling or— and he was hurling like he was yelling or one— and he was hurling like he was yelling at the same time. he eoio— yelling at the same time. he eoio onio— yelling at the same time. he said this country— yelling at the same time. he said this country was built on one— said this country was built on one iiooo— said this country was built on one wood or— said this country was built on the blood of slaves. i heard him say— the blood of slaves. i heard him on one— the blood of slaves. i heard him on on ininoe— the blood of slaves. i heard him say and things like that . and say and things like that. and onen—noiiee- say and things like that. and. then—police arrested then clearly the police arrested nin— then clearly the police arrested rim or— then clearly the police arrested rim or one— then clearly the police arrested him at the scene— then clearly the police arrested him at the scene .— then clearly the police arrested him at the scene . he pleaded not him at the scene. he pleaded not owin— him at the scene. he pleaded not onion in— him at the scene. he pleaded not onion in onion— him at the scene. he pleaded not guilty in january -_ him at the scene. he pleaded not guilty in january . you can see guilty in january. you can see one— guilty in january. you can see one pionee— guilty in january. you can see the pictures there of this ineioenr. — the pictures there of this incident. he— the pictures there of this incident. he pleaded not guilty. the incident. he pleaded not guilty. ine inor— incident. he pleaded not guilty. ine orioi wo— incident. he pleaded not guilty. the trial was today . and he the trial was today. and he reoreeeniei— the trial was today. and he represented himself in his defence— represented himself in his defence and— represented himself in his defence and he said it was well , nie— defence and he said it was well , nie nie— defence and he said it was well , no no nie— defence and he said it was well , his his his lawyer— defence and he said it was well , his his his lawyer said ioeieoin— , his his his lawyer said basically it— , his his his lawyer said basically it was lawful violence ieeowee— basically it was lawful violence ieeowee ne— basically it was lawful violence because he basically violence corneri— because he basically violence eorrieo owr— because he basically violence carried out against the violence corneri— carried out against the violence eorrieo owr— carried out against the violence eorrieo our in— carried out against the violence carried out by the— carried out against the violence carried out by the british enre,— carried out by the british erore, oe— carried out by the british state, as he— carried out by the british state, as he sees it in terms of one— state, as he sees it in terms of the historical— state, as he sees it in terms of the historical slave— state, as he sees it in terms of the historical slave trade . and the historical slave trade. and nee— the historical slave trade. and ne-e iner— the historical slave trade. and he's just basically being quite ioni— he's just basically being quite rmt establishments. but he did eneow— rmt establishments. but he did eoeow owreioe— rmt establishments. but he did speak outside of— rmt establishments. but he did speak outside of court in the iono— speak outside of court in the we now— speak outside of court in the we now or— speak outside of court in the last hour or so.— speak outside of court in the last hour or so. i— speak outside of court in the last hour or so. i believe we've got— last hour or so. i believe we've goo o— last hour or so. i believe we've goo o eiin. — last hour or so. i believe we've goo o eiio. neon— last hour or so. i believe we've got a clip. yeah, we— last hour or so. i believe we've got a clip. yeah, we do like eeoreo— got a clip. yeah, we do like scared people. _ got a clip. yeah, we do like scared people. tut" scared people. then maybe, hopefully they inspired them to actually have a think about what's really scary in this

society, which is that we're sleepwalking into fascist sleepwalking into a fascist state. don't do state. and if we don't do something about they're something about it, they're going locking us up in going to start locking us up in camps and killing us. that's kind of point . camps and killing us. that's kind of-point . so- camps and killing us. that's kind of-point . so like,. kind of the point. so like, i oroioin— kind of the point. so like, i can probably leave it there. inor— can probably leave it there. just-me— can probably leave it there. woo-me inr- can probably leave it there. i just-me for questioning just forgive me for questioning whether or not that man is entirely locked into reality. so if you looked at the optics of the court case today, first of all, when he arrived in court , all, when he arrived in court, he had a number of his friends , he had a number of his friends, his supporters with him. they were holding signs up- his supporters with him. they were holding signs up ,- t“ t they were holding signs up, placards. he were holding signs up, placards. we wo— were holding signs up, placards. we wen— were holding signs up, placards. he was very happy to speak to the he was very happy to speak to one neoio— he was very happy to speak to the media outside the court to soon— the media outside the court to soon wirn— the media outside the court to start with where— the media outside the court to start with where he was airing his start with where he was airing nie conse— start with where he was airing his cause. clearly,— start with where he was airing his cause. clearly, there was a lot his cause. clearly, there was a no or— his cause. clearly, there was a lot of cameras— his cause. clearly, there was a lot of cameras there because it one — lot of cameras there because it one fini— lot of cameras there because it was the first time— lot of cameras there because it was the first time eggs had been new— was the first time eggs had been nerd—nook— was the first time eggs had been neio—ioek in- held at the king back in november— held at the king back in november and held at the king back in- novemberiand-following his november. and then following his his november. and then following his no one— november. and then following his no one conn— november. and then following his his the court case,— november. and then following his his the court case, he obviously owreioe— his the court case, he obviously was outside of— his the court case, he obviously was outside of the— his the court case, he obviously was outside of the court . he his the court case, he obviously was outside of the court. he was eenreneeo— was outside of the court. he was eenreneeo ro — was outside of the court. he was sentenced to a— was outside of the court. he was sentenced to a 12— was outside of the court. he was sentenced to a 12 month eonnwnin— sentenced to a 12 month community order, 100 hours of wine— community order, 100 hours of wnooio work— community order, 100 hours of wnooio worn ,— community order, 100 hours of unpaid work , ordered to pay £600 unpaid work, ordered to pay £600 of corn— unpaid work, ordered to pay £600 of corn eoere— unpaid work, ordered to pay £600 of court costs and— unpaid work, ordered to pay £600 of court costs and £114 enrenorge— of court costs and £114 surcharge at- of court costs and £114 surcharge at the rate of £5 a week.— surcharge at the rate of £5 a week. our— surcharge at the rate of £5 a week. our ne— surcharge at the rate of £5 a week. but he continued to his rowing— week. but he continued to his cause talking about climate monge— cause talking about climate change, alleging fascism and,

you— change, alleging fascism and, now know,— change, alleging fascism and, now know, saying— change, alleging fascism and, you know, saying lots of these wings,— you know, saying lots of these ininge, wnien— you know, saying lots of these things, which clearly he was using— things, which clearly he was using or,— things, which clearly he was using in i— things, which clearly he was using it, i think— things, which clearly he was using it, i think perhaps as a bit using it, i think perhaps as a bio oi— using it, i think perhaps as a iii of o— using it, i think perhaps as a bit of a publicity— using it, i think perhaps as a bit of a publicity stunt to get his bit of a publicity stunt to get no noinr— bit of a publicity stunt to get his point across.— bit of a publicity stunt to get his point across. but i have no— his point across. but i have oieo iowno— his point across. but i have also found out— his point across. but i have also found out from from researching— also found out from from researching him on various eoeioi— researching him on various eoeioi neoio— researching him on various social media platforms that he is oerwoin— social media platforms that he is oerwoin ne— social media platforms that he is actually he appears to be crowdfunding_ is actually he appears to be crowdfunding to— is actually he appears to be crowdfunding to pay his court eoeor — crowdfunding to pay his court eoeor so— crowdfunding to pay his court costs. so how's— crowdfunding to pay his court costs. so how's he doing? he's so nee— costs. so how's he doing? he's so he's raised— costs. so how's he doing? he's so he's raised £502— costs. so how's he doing? he's so he's raised £502 so far , i so he's raised £502 so far, i nove— so he's raised £502 so far, i nowe ro— so he's raised £502 so far, i nowe ro noinr— so he's raised £502 so far, i have to point out- so he's raised £502 so far, i have to point out that he did eer— have to point out that he did oer wn— have to point out that he did oer no rnie— have to point out that he did set up this fundraiser page and ask set up this fundraiser page and oer peopie— set up this fundraiser page and oer peopie ro— set up this fundraiser page and ask people to support his costs oneoo— ask people to support his costs oneoo oi— ask people to support his costs oneoo oi nie— ask people to support his costs ahead of his sentencing today. so ahead of his sentencing today. so ne— ahead of his sentencing today. so ne wo— ahead of his sentencing today. so he was expecting potentially a so he was expecting potentially o nome— so he was expecting potentially o eoooo iine. — so he was expecting potentially a £5,000 fine. that did not happen-— a £5,000 fine. that did not happen- ne— a £5,000 fine. that did not happen. he was— a £5,000 fine. that did not happen. he was only having to pay— happen. he was only having to on corn— happen. he was only having to on eown coon-r— happen. he was only having to pay court costs. but i think the noinr— pay court costs. but i think the noinr eriii— pay court costs. but i think the point still stands— pay court costs. but i think the point still stands is that he is ioeieoin— point still stands is that he is basically asking— point still stands is that he is basically asking for public oonorione— basically asking for public donations .— basically asking for public donations . yeah, the pr, the donations. yeah, the pr, the prese— donations. yeah, the pr, the press association are also reoonino— press association are also reporting that— press association are also reporting that he has stopped his reporting that he has stopped nie erwoiee— reporting that he has stopped his studies at— reporting that he has stopped his studies at the university of work. — his studies at the university of work. we— his studies at the university of work. we ie— his studies at the university of work. we is o— his studies at the university of york. he is a student at the wniwerein. — york. he is a student at the university. i've— york. he is a student at the university. i've lost to the academic community and indeed the wider world because, of course, it won't just be the

court costs that the public are now paying for will now paying for him. it will presumably different presumably be various different benefits as he benefits going forward as he finds to finds himself unable to get a job. cameron, thank you very much. cameron walker are much. cameron walker there are royal okay. if you royal reporter now. okay. if you were worried that you might need seven recycling bins outside your house, and believe you me, it was giving me sleepless nights, i might have some good news for you. i'm patrick christys gb news

channel welcome back. now a report claims labour leader sir keir starmer billed taxpayers for almost a quarter of £1 million in travel costs while he was the director of public prosecutions. according to reports, starmer claimed almost three times as much as his successor , sir much as his successor, sir alison saunders, including getting out of this first class flights and a chauffeur driven car charging you, the taxpayer , car charging you, the taxpayer, a whopping £161,273 for the car and driver , even though he lived

and driver, even though he lived and driver, even though he lived a few miles from the office. yep. joining me now is gb news senior political commentator nigel nelson. nigel, thank you very much. hey, look, this is a terrible look for sir keir starmer here. it looks like he's taking the public for a ride . taking the public for a ride. well , it's certainly well, it's certainly embarrassing for him coming well, it's certainly— embarrassing for him coming so noni— embarrassing for him coming so noro on— embarrassing for him coming so noro on we— embarrassing for him coming so hard on the heels— embarrassing for him coming so hard on the heels of that controversial— hard on the heels of that controversial attack on rishi swnok— controversial attack on rishi swnow ine— controversial attack on rishi sunak erg over— controversial attack on rishi sunak erg over not jailing child oiwee— sunak erg over not jailing child oiwee ie. — sunak erg over not jailing child oiwee is. i— sunak erg over not jailing child abuse is. i don't— sunak erg over not jailing child abuse is. i don't think it's exocrin— abuse is. i don't think it's eooern ine— abuse is. i don't think it's exactly the biggest scandal on eonn— exactly the biggest scandal on earth because— exactly the biggest scandal on earth because obviously, all rnie— earth because obviously, all one noppeneo— earth because obviously, all this happened quite some time ago this happened quite sometime ogo wnen— this happened quite some time ogo wnen ne— this happened quite sometime ago when he was— this happened quite some time ago when he was doing a eonoieren— ago when he was doing a completely different job. and the completely different job. and we eno— completely different job. and the reason given at the time was as the reason given at the time was on ioni— the reason given at the time was on non .— the reason given at the time was on non . ne— the reason given at the time was as dpp . he couldn't really as dpp. he couldn't really rrowei— as dpp. he couldn't really rrowei on— as dpp. he couldn't really travel on the— as dpp. he couldn't really travel on the tube carrying confidential— travel on the tube carrying confidential papers or making eeneiriwe— confidential papers or making sensitive phone— confidential papers or making sensitive phone calls . but sensitive phone calls. but nowing— sensitive phone calls. but nowino eoio— sensitive phone calls. but having said that, that when he finer— having said that, that when he was first exposed _ having said that, that when he was first exposed by the telegraph— was first exposed by the telegraph for— was first exposed by the telegraph for using the chauffeur— telegraph for using the chauffeur driven car back in zero,— chauffeur driven car back in zero, ne— chauffeur driven car back in zero, ne wen— chauffeur driven car back in 2010, he very quickly gave it up- — 2010, he very quickly gave it no. so— 2010, he very quickly gave it up. so obviously— 2010, he very quickly gave it up. so obviously he realised it woe-ni— up. so obviously he realised it woe-nr ine— up. so obviously he realised it wasn't the best— up. so obviously he realised it wasn't the best use of taxpayers

onen — wasn't the best use of taxpayers onen wen,— wasn't the best use of taxpayers money. well, hang— wasn't the best use of taxpayers money. well, hang on a minute. inor— money. well, hang on a minute. inor inor— money. well, hang on a minute. that that implies— money. well, hang on a minute. that that implies to me that he onn— that that implies to me that he only-up— that that implies to me that he onn-wn-ne- that that implies to me that he onn-wn-ne wool only gave it up when he was found— only gave it up when he was round-so— only gave it up when he was found _so he- only gave it up when he was found _so he would i only gave it up when he was. found _so he would have only gave it up when he was- found _so he would have been found out. so he would have been perfectly happy to have rinsed found out. so he would have been peritaxpayerrpy to have rinsed found out. so he would have been peritaxpayerrpy til have rinsed found out. so he would have been peritaxpayerrpy til mean, nsed found out. so he would have been peritaxpayerrpy til mean, thisi the taxpayer dry. i mean, this can't who seriously is can't be a man who seriously is in the common man or in touch with the common man or woman or cares about a cost of living well, mean, at living crisis. well, i mean, at least up. you're least he gave it up. you're absolutely right.- least he gave it up. you're absolutely right. he- g t t. you're absolutely right. he only gave it absolutely right. he only gave i no— absolutely right. he only gave ir win-we— absolutely right. he only gave ir wn-weioor- absolutely right. he only gave ir wn-weigor ro- absolutely right. he only gave it up we got to know it up after we all got to know oiowr— it up after we all got to know oiowr ir— it up after we all got to know oiowr ir .— it up after we all got to know about it . obviously the about it. and obviously that the car about it. and obviously that the wirn— about it. and obviously that the car came with a— about it. and obviously that the car came with a job. i'm not defending— car came with a job. i'm not defending this— car came with a job. i'm not defending this because i think rnor— defending this because i think no ir— defending this because i think rnor ir io— defending this because i think no i io on— defending this because i think that it is an outrageous use of ownin— that it is an outrageous use of oniiie nonen— that it is an outrageous use of public money to— that it is an outrageous use of public money to be spending quire— public money to be spending owire oo— public money to be spending quite so much— public money to be spending quite so much on a chauffeur oriwen— quite so much on a chauffeur oriwen eon— quite so much on a chauffeur driven car. and— quite so much on a chauffeur driven car. and of— quite so much on a chauffeur driven car. and of course , the driven car. and of course, the one— driven car. and of course, the other problem— driven car. and of course, the other problem that keir starmer has other problem that keir starmer noo gor— other problem that keir starmer noo goo io— other problem that keir starmer noo goo io in— other problem that keir starmer noo goo io in nor— other problem that keir starmer has got is by not withdrawing the has got is by not withdrawing one orroek— has got is by not withdrawing the attack on— has got is by not withdrawing the attack on rishi sunak , he's the attack on rishi sunak, he's rorner— the attack on rishi sunak, he's one oon— the attack on rishi sunak, he's one oon or— the attack on rishi sunak, he's rather sort of relinquished the mono— rather sort of relinquished the noroi high— rather sort of relinquished the moral high ground anyway . so moral high ground anyway. so weir— moral high ground anyway. so keir starmer— moral high ground anyway. so keir starmer can't even claim onio— keir starmer can't even claim onio ori— keir starmer can't even claim this all happened before he was an this all happened before he was on irr- — this all happened before he was on irr- ne— this all happened before he was an mp. he knows— this all happened before he was an mp. he knows that hard. on the an mp. he knows that hard. on one neeio— an mp. he knows that hard. on one neeio or— an mp. he knows that hard. on the heels of using— an mp. he knows that hard. on the heels of using child abuse iigwreo— the heels of using child abuse rignreo wnen— the heels of using child abuse figures when rishi sunak wasn't on irr— figures when rishi sunak wasn't on we . — figures when rishi sunak wasn't even an mp . yeah,— figures when rishi sunak wasn't even an mp . “cir?" :: figures when rishi sunak wasn't even an mp . / 3: ' i: even an mp. yeah, indeed. and i just wonder whether or not the

british public would find it bizarre, especially your traditional labour voters, because this is the kind of behaviour that people might expect from tory peers. but actually when you add it all up is keir starmer just a part of this squishy metropolitan elite thatis this squishy metropolitan elite that is perfectly comfortable flying business class on the taxpayers dime ? well, i'm not taxpayers dime? well, i'm not sure that that, that it's the car i think is more more a question rather than flying business class . so can i question rather than flying business class. so can i can i just interrupt just quickly, nigel, sorry about this, but i've got to be honest with you. for flying class is for me, flying business class is the complete extreme on the absolute complete extreme on this. never flown this. i have never flown business i've business class in my life. i've always tickets and always looked at tickets and thought, goodness me, why would anyone pay for that? and then it turns keir starmer turns out that keir starmer case, was taxpayer paying case, it was the taxpayer paying for for most normal for it. i think for most normal people the business people out there, the business class probably worse class stuff is probably worse than getting a car . okay. all than getting a car. okay. all right. we than getting a car. okay. all right.-we obviously- than getting a car. okay. all. right. _we obviously differ right. well, we obviously differ on rnor— right. well, we obviously differ on no one— right. well, we obviously differ on that one. patrick but we're going— on that one. patrick but we're going noon— on that one. patrick but we're going noon ro— on that one. patrick but we're going back to 2008. and i just oninw— going back to 2008. and i just onink one— going back to 2008. and i just think the times— going back to 2008. and i just think the times were different. i think the times were different. i neon— think the times were different. i iro— think the times were different. i mean, it's quite— think the times were different. i mean, it's quite clear that rnor—

i mean, it's quite clear that no we— i mean, it's quite clear that that the crown— i mean, it's quite clear that that the crown prosecution service— that the crown prosecution sewiee rio— that the crown prosecution service did start looking at oneir— service did start looking at oneir ooo— service did start looking at their costs. the— service did start looking at their costs. the mere fact that weir— their costs. the mere fact that weir srorner— their costs. the mere fact that keir starmer successor , alison keir starmer successor, alison sownoero— keir starmer successor, alison sownoero ,— keir starmer successor, alison sownoero , woo— keir starmer successor, alison saunders , was able to actually saunders, was able to actually onene— saunders, was able to actually oneno rwo— saunders, was able to actually spend two thirds— saunders, was able to actually spend two thirds less than he did spend two thirds less than he oio .— spend two thirds less than he on . so— spend two thirds less than he on . so ir— spend two thirds less than he did . so it was— spend two thirds less than he did . so it was a— spend two thirds less than he did . so it was a different did. so it was a different eiinore— did. so it was a different eiinore .— did. so it was a different climate . but— did. so it was a different climate . but certainly nowadays climate. but certainly nowadays you climate. but certainly nowadays non wowion-r— climate. but certainly nowadays you wouldn't actually expect rnor— you wouldn't actually expect no ro — you wouldn't actually expect no ro happen— you wouldn't actually expect that to happen . g that to happen. okay. all right. so do you think keir starmer will what apologise for this? maybe. i mean, will he be urging his own mps to try to do what they can in the wake of the cost of living crisis to keep mps costs down? they can just point at him now, can't they? came and go. that chauffeur go. did you enjoy that chauffeur dnven go. did you enjoy that chauffeur driven just miles down driven car just a few miles down the a quarter of £1 the road? was it a quarter of £1 million? keir, that million? was it, sir keir, that you the taxpayer ? it's you cost the taxpayer? it's bizarre, think, to bizarre, really, i think, to have there who's so keen have a man there who's so keen to the moral high ground, to take the moral high ground, who as willing as he is who is as willing as he is apparently anyway to take the taxpayer money like that when he was a decent wage. he didn't was on a decent wage. he didn't need to, did he? well, he was he woo-£200,000— need to, did he? well, he was he was-£200,000lyear- need to, did he? well, he was he was-£200,000lyear as- need to, did he? well, he was he was-£200,000lyear as as. : i: »: t7 well, he was he was £200,000 year as as dpp was on £200,000 a year as as dpp one— was on £200,000 a year as as dpp one eenoinn— was on £200,000 a year as as dpp and certainly that— was on £200,000 a year as as dpp and certainly that was a decent

woge— and certainly that was a decent woge .— and certainly that was a decent woge . i— and certainly that was a decent woge . i oninw— and certainly that was a decent wage . i think the— and certainly that was a decent wage . i think the point and certainly that was a decent wage. i think the point i'm mowing— wage. i think the point i'm mowing io— wage. i think the point i'm making is that— wage. i think the point i'm making is that clearly the car one— making is that clearly the car one one— making is that clearly the car and the flights— making is that clearly the car and the flights went with the job,— and the flights went with the ion inr— and the flights went with the ion, in — and the flights went with the ion, our in— and the flights went with the job, but no, i'm not i'm not oeienoing— job, but no, i'm not i'm not defending that— job, but no, i'm not i'm not defending that .— job, but no, i'm not i'm not defending that . when it comes defending that. when it comes down— defending that. when it comes down ro— defending that. when it comes down ro wnor— defending that. when it comes down to what mps spend or gowernnenr— down to what mps spend or government waste , i think government waste, i think onere-o— government waste, i think rnere-o o— government waste, i think there's a slightly different oirierenr— there's a slightly different different situation that the iorieo— different situation that the tories have _ different situation that the tories have certainly been wooing— tories have certainly been wooring on— tories have certainly been wasting an awful lot of money on. wasting an awful lot of money inrenoin— wasting an awful lot of money on. entertain ment and their own wine— on. entertain ment and their own wine or— on. entertain ment and their own wine of iowion— on. entertain ment and their own kind of lavish travel. so it's roi— kind of lavish travel. so it's ioir enowgn— kind of lavish travel. so it's fair enough to— kind of lavish travel. so it's fair enough to point that out. our— fair enough to point that out. on now— fair enough to point that out. on non know,— fair enough to point that out. but you know, it— fair enough to point that out. but you know, it is a different oning— but you know, it is a different oning .— but you know, it is a different rning . inio— but you know, it is a different thing . this was— but you know, it is a different thing . this was a— but you know, it is a different thing . this was a different job thing. this was a different job wnen— thing. this was a different job wnen ne— thing. this was a different job when he wasn't— thing. this was a different job when he wasn't an mp, wasn't the leooer— when he wasn't an mp, wasn't the leooer oi— when he wasn't an mp, wasn't the leooer of one— when he wasn't an mp, wasn't the leader of the opposition. he's enririeo— leader of the opposition. he's enririeo ro— leader of the opposition. he's entitled to criticise the government - entitled to criticise the government now. he is the leader of government now. he is the leader oi one— government now. he is the leader of the opposition— government now. he is the leader of the opposition . _ government now. he is the leader of the opposition . writtt g: of the opposition. well, good swir— of the opposition. well, good stuff nigel. thank you very much. nigel nelson there is gb news is senior political commentator. it is fascinating stuff i get what nigel stuff because i get what nigel is idea is saying there about the idea that, it was that, well, it was it was a different time and the car and the flights with job. the flights came with the job. but have to that car but did it have to be that car and it to be those and did it have to be those flights? did it have be that flights? did it have to be that expensive? maybe i'm maybe expensive? look, maybe i'm maybe i'm touch here. maybe i'm out of touch here. maybe everyone's watching and everyone's watching this now and thinking of course.

everyone's watching this now and thiineeded of course. everyone's watching this now and thiineeded to of course. everyone's watching this now and thiineeded to take course. everyone's watching this now and thiineeded to take him ;e. everyone's watching this now and thiineeded to take him a. he needed a car to take him a few miles to and that the few miles to work and that the quarter million he's quarter of £1 million that he's billed, the taxpayer is absolutely of course, he absolutely fine. of course, he had business around had to fly business class around the course, they all the world. of course, they all had happen . i've be had to happen. i've got to be honest though, i don't honest with you, though, i don't agree but there we go. agree with it. but there we go. now, plans for a new recycling strategy have been strategy in england have been delayed local delayed until after the local elections. the government's aim this way, this is, by the way, more interesting sounds, aim interesting than it sounds, aim to seven bins for every to provide seven bins for every household, consistency household, ensuring consistency across in what the across the country in what the council collect recycling . council collect for recycling. currently, six out of ten councils collect their recycling waste in one container, so would seven bins just cause too much of an issue? i am not lying to you. we were apparently on the cusp of having seven bins per household. what do you even put in all of the individual to shed some more light on this, i am now joined by former home office minister baker. norman, minister norman baker. norman, thank very much. what the thank you very much. what the heckis thank you very much. what the heck is going on with this bin stuff? seven bins to recycle . stuff? seven bins to recycle. what a variety of different

things. presumably. presumably the bins are made out of plastic. what's going on? well patrick, let me just say, as a as a as an introduction, in fact, that was one of only two ministers to refuse to have a ministerial car and a driver to pick up your last story. yes, but on on the bins, i- t. . yes, but on on the bins, i mean, this is but on on the bins, i mean, this io o— but on on the bins, i mean, this is a ludicrous— but on on the bins, i mean, this is a ludicrous idea. t is a ludicrous idea. i mean, it is a ludicrous idea. i mean, it is apri— is a ludicrous idea. i mean, it is april the 1st. there's not enough room for seven bins outside people's houses . i live outside people's houses. i live in lewes, where i was- »:ut i live in lewes, where i was council ieooer— in lewes, where i was council ieooer nonn— in lewes, where i was council leader many moons ago. �*vw�*it; gt» leader many moons ago. we've got a leader many moons ago. we've got o oi— leader many moons ago. we've got a series of victorian terraced houses in narrow streets. how can you possibly have seven bins? you'd shut the whole road before the bins and this is not a sensible policy. of course you won— a sensible policy. of course you won ro— a sensible policy. of course you want to recycle _ a sensible policy. of course you want to recycle more,- of course you want to recycle more, but onere-o— want to recycle more, but rnere-o no— want to recycle more, but there's no indication that you onnor— there's no indication that you cannot recycle— there's no indication that you cannot recycle more as a consequence of- cannot recycle more as a consequence of having one bin one— consequence of having one bin one nowing— consequence of having one bin one nowing o— consequence of having one bin and having a separated one is rowen— and having a separated one is roien own— and having a separated one is roien own . — and having a separated one is taken away . you— and having a separated one is taken away . /ut» t: t taken away. you could even invent a bin. could you? not taken away. v/it» t: t " could you? not if invent a bin. could you? not if you— invent a bin. could you? not if now wonreo— invent a bin. could you? not if non wonreo ro— invent a bin. could you? not if non wonreo ro . — invent a bin. could you? not if you wanted to . with- " could you? not if you wanted to . you i: " you wanted to. with drawers in it. you could put different things in different bits of the bin, but there's no way you're going to seven bits, seven

going to have seven bits, seven lorries each council as lorries from each council as well go round and collect well to go round and collect these a further these bins and there's a further point, is this, point, patrick, which is this, these are local these are, these are local matters. matter matters. this is a matter for the council and the the local council and the government has got no business trying a nationwide trying to impose a nationwide solution on waste collection like , but also what it will like this, but also what it will inevitably lead to is less collection because people, especially i don't want to sound like i'm being ageist here or anything, but i'm just saying people who've put their bins out a certain for their entire a certain way for their entire life find more life might find it more difficult to adjust to this new, ridiculous seven bin system. and when people empty the bins and and when people empty the bins one onen— and when people empty the bins one new oee— and when people empty the bins and they see the— and when people empty the bins and they see the wrong thing in the and they see the wrong thing in egg-wen,— and they see the wrong thing in egg-wen, rnen— and they see the wrong thing in the well, they tend the bin, well, they don't tend to the bin, well, they don't tend ro ennn— the bin, well, they don't tend ro enon onen— the bin, well, they don't tend to empty them. they don't take onen — to empty them. they don't take onen -rnen— to empty them. they don't take them _then they're - to empty them. they don't take them then they're going them away. so then they're going to them away. so then they're going ro—rnen-rel to find people and then they're going— to find people and then they're going ro— to find people and then they're going ro nor— to find people and then they're going to not clear— to find people and then they're going to not clear the rubbish up going to not clear the rubbish wn—rnen-ii- going to not clear the rubbish up_they'll blocki up anyway and they'll block the mag,— up anyway and they'll block the noo-oon,— road, as you've said, and wen-ii— road, as you've said, and onen-ii-ro- road, as you've said, and they'll-to incur- road, as you've said, and they'll to incur the they'll have to incur the additional— they'll have to incur the additional making they'll have to incur the- additional-making these additional cost of making these inno— additional cost of making these nno—owr- additional cost of making thesei bins—out there bins and putting them out there and bins and putting them out there one—on- and doing collections on oiiierenr— and doing collections on different-.- and doing collections on different-. i- and doing collections on different . i mean, to be different days. i mean, to be noneor— different days. i mean, to be noneor wirn— different days. i mean, to be honest with you, _ different days. i mean, to be honest with you, norman, it's nor— honest with you, norman, it's not difficult— honest with you, norman, it's not difficult to _ honest with you, norman, it's not difficult to see why so many ioeoi— not difficult to see why so many ioeoi-ore— not difficult to see why so many local - are - not. local councils are tens, if not nwnoreoo— local councils are tens, if not nwnoreoo oi— local councils are tens, if not hundreds of-of- local councils are tens, if not hundreds of of pounds hundreds of millions of pounds in-ir— hundreds of millions of pounds in-ir e — hundreds of millions of pounds in-ir e wo— hundreds of millions of pounds in-it ? n0,imean,. hundreds of millions of pounds in-it ? n0,imean, iti in debt. is it? no, i mean, it should have cost local councils

a if they're obliged should have cost local councils a all if they're obliged should have cost local councils a all if thbins obliged should have cost local councils a all if thbins and ged should have cost local councils a all if thbins and alli should have cost local councils a all if thbins and all these buy all these bins and all these extra lorries to collect waste. and it doesn't make any sense . and it doesn't make any sense. and it doesn't make any sense. and i've said and you've said indeed the objections which indeed all the objections which apply thing that apply and the thing that surprises really, patrick, is surprises me really, patrick, is how earth a how on earth could such a nonsensical , ludicrous policy nonsensical, ludicrous policy get past square one? and the board ? is it not because they're board? is it not because they're ioioroe — board? is it not because they're ioioroe oni— board? is it not because they're idiots? obe is,— board? is it not because they're idiots? obe is, is— board? is it not because they're idiots? obe is, is it?- board? is it not because they're idiots? obe is, is it? is- board? is it not because they're idiots? obe is, is it? is it- :7 is it not because they're idiots? ofit c7 t idiots? obe is, is it? is it not because is it not because they are idiots? and that a lot of people in local government are not fit to run a bath ? well, i not fit to run a bath? well, i mean, this is not— not fit to run a bath? well, i mean, this is not a- �*7 t t“ 7 well, i mean, this is not a local gowernnenr— mean, this is not a local government idea. i think the ioeoi— government idea. i think the local government association, the local government association, one ioeoi— local government association, the local councils— local government association, the local councils are rather oeenrieoi— the local councils are rather sceptical-this- the local councils are rather sceptical-this. - the local councils are rather sceptical this . t“ the local councils are rather. sceptical-this . this has sceptical about this. this has come somewhere probably come from somewhere probably in the environment, the department of environment, and that's probably where the ideas come from because the government's talking about a nationwide , which makes nationwide solution, which makes it same every council it the same for every council across country, which is across the country, which is inappropriate because you don't lead local matters. so i'm lead to local matters. so i'm afraid sort of a afraid there's some sort of a couple civil servants in a in couple of civil servants in a in a smokeless room somewhere come up this idea. yeah, is up with this idea. yeah, it is just up with this idea. yeah, it is inor—ionnero- up with this idea. yeah, it is- just—bonkersinorman, just absolutely bonkers, norman, ion-r— just absolutely bonkers, norman, ion-rlnwr— just absolutely bonkers, norman, isn't-but hopefully— just absolutely bonkers, norman, isn't but hopefully there's isn't it? but hopefully there's

going— isn't it? but hopefully there's going-enowgn— isn't it? but hopefully there's going enough pushback going to be enough pushback on this to actually pause it and oron— this to actually pause it and oon-now— this to actually pause it and oron-now know- this to actually pause it and stop-you know ,- this to actually pause it and stop you know , but stop it. and, you know, but monie— stop it. and, you know, but nowe-now- stop it. and, you know, but maybe you unearthed stop it. and, you know, but- maybe-you unearthed the maybe maybe you unearthed the real maybe maybe you unearthed the reoi ooiwrion— maybe maybe you unearthed the real solution to— maybe maybe you unearthed the real solution to this in one of now— real solution to this in one of now iiror— real solution to this in one of your first answers. actually wnien— your first answers. actually wnien woo— your first answers. actually which was that,— your first answers. actually which was that, well, they'd be mooning— which was that, well, they'd be blocking—people. blocking the roads so people wowion-r— blocking the roads so people wouldn't—drive.- blocking the roads so people- wouldn't_drive. maybe wouldn't be able to drive. maybe monie— wouldn't be able to drive. maybe nonie-rinroii— maybe with my tinfoil hat on, onio— maybe with my tinfoil hat on, onio-nowe- maybe with my tinfoil hat on, this-have been- maybe with my tinfoil hat on, this have been part maybe with my tinfoil hat on,- this-have been part of this would all have been part of ooeo—r— this would all have been part of ooeo—r ger- this would all have been part of some _to get-all. some big agenda to get us all out some big agenda to get us all our of— some big agenda to get us all our oi-eoro— some big agenda to get us all out of-cars and- some big agenda to get us all out of cars and get us onto out of our cars and get us onto i—oeoorer— out of our cars and get us onto e—scooter tours— out of our cars and get us onto e—scootertours something e—scooter tours or something iiwe— e—scooter tours or something iiwe-wornon- e—scooter tours or something - like-norman,-you like that. but norman, thank you wen— like that. but norman, thank you wen-on— like that. but norman, thank you wen-on in— like that. but norman, thank you wen-on in one— like that. but norman, thank you very oh, by the way, very much. oh, by the way, won— very much. oh, by the way,- wornon—wen norman, just quickly, just very quickn— norman, just quickly, just very gniewiw-i-we— norman, just quickly, just very gniekiw-i-we gor- norman, just quickly, just very quickly, i've got you quickly, while i've got you onene— quickly, while i've got you were onio— quickly, while i've got you there, this keir— quickly, while i've got you there, this keir starmer stuff, rignr— there, this keir starmer stuff,| rignr—rne right about him expensing the owner— right about him expensing the rooooner nor— right about him expensing the taxpayer for quarter of £1 niiiion— million for expenses when he was neon— million for expenses when he was neon-one— million for expenses when he was head .the public— million for expenses when he was head the public prosecutions million for expenses when he was heaiflyinge public prosecutions million for expenses when he was heaiflying business3rosecutions million for expenses when he was heaiflying business3rosecandis and flying business class and gerring— and flying business class and| gerring—eor getting a chauffeur driven car one—own,- getting a chauffeur driven car and-stuff, you- getting a chauffeur driven car and stuff, you you and all of this stuff, you you you— and all of this stuff, you you now oon-r— and all of this stuff, you you won oon-r oee— and all of this stuff, you you you don't see any justification for nor,— you don't see any justification for mg, no— you don't see any justification for that, do you?— you don't see any justification for that, do you? no i don't. nno— for that, do you? no i don't. nno oo— for that, do you? no i don't. nno oo i— for that, do you? no i don't. nno oo i ooio— for that, do you? no i don't. and as i said at— for that, do you? no i don't. and as i said at the- for that, do you? no i don't. and as i said at the beginning, patrick, i'm one of the two only ministers. chris mullin ella whelan ministerial whelan to refuse a ministerial car became a minister car when i became a minister because of it in because at the point of it in london, you go by bus and by tube, it's very easy. so i've got sympathy with people got no sympathy with people who run bills for public run up bills for the public purse i would just purse in this way. i would just say, to fair, say, however, to be fair, that rishi sunak spent half £1 million in two weeks on private

jets , so i'm afraid it becomes jets, so i'm afraid it becomes an endemic problem . well, it an endemic problem. well, it does. it does look absolutely . does. it does look absolutely. won— does. it does look absolutely. norman, thank— does. it does look absolutely. norman, thank you— : it does look absolutely. norman, thank you very much. worrnon— norman, thank you very much. norman baker,— norman, thank you very much. norman baker, there, is norman baker, there, who is a former— norman baker, there, who is a former none— norman baker, there, who is a former home office minister , former home office minister, reoering— former home office minister, reacting—that- former home office minister, reacting that good reacting to the fact that good news, and gentlemen, reacting to the fact that good nevt now and gentlemen, reacting to the fact that good nevt now very and gentlemen, reacting to the fact that good nevt now very unlikely:lemen, reacting to the fact that good nevt now very unlikely to nen, reacting to the fact that good nevt now very unlikely to have to are now very unlikely to have to put are now very unlikely to have to our now— are now very unlikely to have to put your rubbish— are now very unlikely to have to put your rubbish in— are now very unlikely to have to put your rubbish in seven oiiierenr— put your rubbish in seven different bins— put your rubbish in seven different bins for glass, for meiot— different bins for glass, for metal, for— different bins for glass, for metal, for cardboard, for food, for household— metal, for cardboard, for food, for household waste, and then oioo— for household waste, and then oioo for— for household waste, and then oioo for one— for household waste, and then also for the green— for household waste, and then also for the green stuff as weir.— also for the green stuff as weii. i— also for the green stuff as well. i mean,— also for the green stuff as well. i mean, i've missed a eonnie— well. i mean, i've missed a couple. goodness only knows wnor-o— couple. goodness only knows wnor-o in— couple. goodness only knows wnor-o in one— couple. goodness only knows what's in the other one's wooin— what's in the other one's oiooiio-rin- what's in the other one's. plastic.-tin anyway. plastic. probably tin anyway. reign.— plastic. probably tin anyway.| reign—goo right. there we go. i've got iowio— right. there we go. i've got loads coming way in the loads coming your way in the next this show. get your next hour of this show. get your emails next hour of this show. get your enoiio coming— next hour of this show. get your emails coming in— next hour of this show. get your emails coming in as— next hour of this show. get your emails coming in as well.- , get your emails coming in as well. gb viewo— emails coming in as well. gb views gbnews.uk. views at gbnews.uk. the bin owin— views at gbnews.uk. the bin own—on- views at gbnews.uk. the bini own—on stuff has popped right off our ioeoi—oronneol local council have stopped eoiieering— collecting our brown garden woore— collecting our brown garden woore inno— collecting our brown garden waste bins-to- collecting our brown garden waste bins to staffing waste bins due to staffing eoooein— waste bins due to staffing capacity covid. waste bins due to staffing capacity-covid. say. capacity post covid. they say. ah capacity post covid. they say. oon-peopie— capacity post covid. they say. ah-people still- capacity post covid. they say. ah people still not being ah yes, people still not being get ah yes, people still not being ger noon— ah yes, people still not being ger noon ro— ah yes, people still not being get back to work.— ah yes, people still not being get back to work. do you know inor— get back to work. do you know that—professions- get back to work. do you know that professions with that one of the professions with the that one of the professions with one nigneor— that one of the professions with the highest level— that one of the professions with the highest level of people owirering— the highest level of people suffering covid the highest level of people. suffering-covid so the highest level of people- suffering-covid so who suffering from long covid so who are suffering from long covid so who oriii— suffering from long covid so who oriii on— suffering from long covid so who are still off work?— suffering from long covid so who are still off work? 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iron— story, which is it's a year on from rwanda.— story, which is it's a year on from rwanda. public support remains high,— from rwanda. public support remains high, actually one remains high, but actually one of remains high, but actually one oi-nroiieno— remains high, but actually one of-problems-the. of the problems is that the ownin— of the problems is that the owiiie—rninki of the problems is that the. public—think it public don't actually think it wiri— public don't actually think it win—rowe- public don't actually think it will—take off,- public don't actually think it will—take off, forl will really ever take off, for wonr— will really ever take off, for wonrlo— will really ever take off, for want. a better— will really ever take off, for. want-a better- how want of a better phrase. how nowe— want of a better phrase. how nowe-ioor— want of a better phrase. how have-lost hope- want of a better phrase. how have lost hope with the have you lost hope with the iowonoo— have you lost hope with the rwanda scheme? clearly have you lost hope with the rwa the scheme? clearly have you lost hope with the rwa the idea me? clearly have you lost hope with the rwa the idea of? clearly have you lost hope with the rwa the idea of it, clearly have you lost hope with the rwa the idea of it, not clearly just the idea of it, not a oererrenr— just the idea of it, not a deterrent yet, - just the idea of it, not a deterrent yet, is it? it is oiooiwren— deterrent yet, is it? it is absolutely not- deterrent yet, is it? it is absolutely not a deterrent ieeowoe— absolutely not a deterrent because people are still coming in-oroweo.— because people are still coming in-oroweo.-e- because people are still coming in-droves.-4 to- in their droves. nearly 4 to eooe— in their droves. nearly 4 to eooo-ono- in their droves. nearly 4 to- 6000-and anticipated 6000 last year and anticipated one— 6000 last year and anticipated and anticipated— 6000 last year and anticipated and anticipated around 90,000 set and anticipated around 90,000 oer ro— and anticipated around 90,000 oer ro-rnio— and anticipated around 90,000 set to _this year. - and anticipated around 90,000 set to this year. so just set to come this year. so just me— set to come this year. so just one ioeo— set to come this year. so just one ioeo oi— set to come this year. so just the idea of being— set to come this year. so just the idea of being sent to rwanda has the idea of being sent to rwanda noo nor— the idea of being sent to rwanda noo nor been— the idea of being sent to rwanda has not been enough . do you has not been enough. do you rninw— has not been enough. do you onink rnor— has not been enough. do you think that it— has not been enough. do you think that it will— has not been enough. do you think that it will ever actually worke— think that it will ever actually won one— think that it will ever actually work? and _one- think that it will ever actually work? and one well work? and another one as well rnor—wirn- work? and another one as well rnor—wirn in- work? and another one as wellj that—with in just that we're going in with in just a that we're going in with in just o-ninwreo— that we're going in with in just a-minutes time— that we're going in with in just a-minutes time is- that we're going in with in just a minutes time is excess a few minutes time is excess oeorno— a few minutes time is excess deaths-tripled,- a few minutes time is excess deaths tripled, tripled deaths now a tripled, tripled owing— deaths now a tripled, tripled owning one— deaths now a tripled, tripled during the last— deaths now a tripled, tripled during the last junior doctors orrike. — during the last junior doctors orrike. so— during the last junior doctors strike. so what's— during the last junior doctors strike. so what's going to noooen— strike. so what's going to noooen onio— strike. so what's going to happen this time ? do you think happen this time? do you think we-ion— happen this time? do you think we-non innior- happen this time? do you think we ban junior doctors we should ban junior doctors from— we should ban junior doctors from striking— we should ban junior doctors from striking if— we should ban junior doctors from striking if it means that peopie— from striking if it means that peopie-nonn- from striking if it means that people don't die? gb people frankly don't die? gb viewo— people frankly don't die? gb viewo one— people frankly don't die? gb views and gb— people frankly don't die? gb views and gb news .uk get those ieo— views and gb news .uk get those coming— views and gb news .uk get those views coming in.— views and gb news .uk get those views coming in. ladies and genrienen— views coming in. ladies and genrienen ir— views coming in. ladies and gentlemen, it will be great to neon— gentlemen, it will be great to neor iron — gentlemen, it will be great to hear from you.— gentlemen, it will be great to hear from you. i— gentlemen, it will be great to hear from you. i will be back in inor— hear from you. i will be back in two o— hear from you. i will be back in two o rick— hear from you. i will be back in just a tick patrick— hear from you. i will be back in just a tick patrick christys nere— just a tick patrick christys nere on— just a tick patrick christys nere on on— just a tick patrick christys here on gb news, britain's news

channel well, a i channel. well, a very i channel- well, a very good |cnonnei— well, a very good afternoon , well, a very good afternoon, ewenioon. — well, a very good afternoon, ewenioon. iro— well, a very good afternoon, everybody. it's patrick christys nere— everybody. it's patrick christys nere on— everybody. it's patrick christys nere on on— everybody. it's patrick christys here on gb news— everybody. it's patrick christys here on gb news and i've got a big now— here on gb news and i've got a irig now coming— here on gb news and i've got a big hour coming your way. here's wnor-o— big hour coming your way. here's wnor-o on— big hour coming your way. here's wnor-o on one— big hour coming your way. here's what's on the menu. so it's exocrin— what's on the menu. so it's exoern o— what's on the menu. so it's eooern o neon— what's on the menu. so it's exactly a year on- what's on the menu. so it's exactly a year on since the iowonoo— exactly a year on since the iowonoo-woo- exactly a year on since the rwanda was announced. rwanda plan was announced. wonorn-o— rwanda plan was announced. nobody's deported yet . do nobody's been deported yet. do you nobody's been deported yet. do now-ioirn— nobody's been deported yet. do now-roirn rnor- nobody's been deported yet. do you-faith that it- you still have faith that it wiri— you still have faith that it will actually,— you still have faith that it will actually, for want of a newer— will actually, for want of a better-take - will actually, for want of a better-take off? i better phrase, take off? in one— better phrase, take off? in ower-wen- better phrase, take off? in other very serious. this other news, very serious. this one— other news, very serious. this one iigwreo— other news, very serious. this the figures are— other news, very serious. this the figures are out and the iigwreo— the figures are out and the figures—deathsl the figures are out and the- figures_deaths were figures are. excess deaths were up figures are. excess deaths were no neorn— figures are. excess deaths were no neorn rripie— figures are. excess deaths were up nearly triple at— figures are. excess deaths were up nearly triple at the last innior— up nearly triple at the last junior doctors— up nearly triple at the last junior doctors strike, so what one— junior doctors strike, so what are the figures— junior doctors strike, so what are the figures going to be like onio— are the figures going to be like onio rinee— are the figures going to be like this time? should— are the figures going to be like this time? should we ban doctors from— this time? should we ban doctors from owning— this time? should we ban doctors from striking? because means, from striking? because it means, frown—nie- from striking? because it means, ironkiw—oie ir- from striking? because it means, frankly,_die if they. frankly, that people die if they do frankly, that people die if they no .— frankly, that people die if they no . in— frankly, that people die if they no . in orner— frankly, that people die if they do . in other news— frankly, that people die if they do . in other news as well, yes, do. in other news as well, yes, we— do. in other news as well, yes, we going— do. in other news as well, yes, we going ro— do. in other news as well, yes, we are going to be— do. in other news as well, yes, we are going to be talking about this we are going to be talking about onio oron.— we are going to be talking about inio oron. inio— we are going to be talking about this story. this is— we are going to be talking about this story. this is a— we are going to be talking about this story. this is a guy who wenr— this story. this is a guy who wenr owr— this story. this is a guy who wenr our on— this story. this is a guy who went out on day— this story. this is a guy who went out on day release, bought a went out on day release, bought o iorren— went out on day release, bought o iorren-won- went out on day release, bought a lottery-won the- a lottery ticket and won the iorren. — a lottery ticket and won the iorren-nio— a lottery ticket and won the lottery. his victim's lottery. and his victim's tonin— lottery. and his victim's family, who's- lottery. and his victim's family, who's rapist, family, who's a rapist, the wierin-o— family, who's a rapist, the- victim's—campaigning victim's family were campaigning to victim's family were campaigning ro none— victim's family were campaigning ro none-nor— victim's family were campaigning to make not receive the to make him not receive the winningo— to make him not receive the winningo or— to make him not receive the winnings or donate to winnings or donate it to enorin.— winnings or donate it to charity-think. winnings or donate it to charity. think that winnings or donate it to- charity.-think that he charity. do you think that he onowio— charity. do you think that he should-allowed- charity. do you think that he should allowed to keep his should be allowed to keep his iorren— should be allowed to keep his lottery winnings— should be allowed to keep his lottery winnings ? and finally as

lottery winnings? and finally as wewe— lottery winnings? and finally as weiie reo— lottery winnings? and finally as weiie ueo we— lottery winnings? and finally as well? yes we are _ lottery winnings? and finally as well? yes we are apparently at non— well? yes we are apparently at riok or— well? yes we are apparently at riok of o— well? yes we are apparently at risk of a pandemic. get this, one— risk of a pandemic. get this, one ioreor— risk of a pandemic. get this, the latest insult— risk of a pandemic. get this, the latest insult of the cost of iiwing— the latest insult of the cost of iiwing orioio— the latest insult of the cost of living crisis is— the latest insult of the cost of living crisis is that diodorus is living crisis is that diodorus io no— living crisis is that diodorus io roo— living crisis is that diodorus is now too expensive and people are is now too expensive and people working— is now too expensive and people are walking around— is now too expensive and people are walking around stinking. noeo— are walking around stinking. noeo onio— are walking around stinking. does this affect— are walking around stinking. does this affect you or anyone you— does this affect you or anyone now know— does this affect you or anyone now know e— does this affect you or anyone you know ? patrick christys here you know? patrick christys here on . en— you know? patrick christys here on . on wewo— you know? patrick christys here on . gb news get— you know? patrick christys here on . gb news get your emails on. gb news get your emails coming— on. gb news get your emails conning in— on. gb news get your emails coming in, people gb views out onwewowk— coming in, people gb views out enwewowk onn— coming in, people gb views out gbnews.uk any faith in the kwonoo— gbnews.uk any faith in the rwanda scheme? any faith at all? and rwanda scheme? any faith at all? ann onowio— rwanda scheme? any faith at all? ann onowio we— rwanda scheme? any faith at all? and should we ban— rwanda scheme? any faith at all? and should we ban doctors from orrikinge— and should we ban doctors from orrikinge ioke— and should we ban doctors from striking? take your— and should we ban doctors from striking? take your pick. ironkiw— striking? take your pick. frankly,-all- striking? take your pick. frankly, all gold today. frankly, it's all gold today. wow,— frankly, it's all gold today. - now,_headlines now, though, it's your headlines . rorriek— now, though, it's your headlines . patrick thanks— now, though, it's your headlines . patrick thanks very much inoeeo. — . patrick thanks very much indeed. and— . patrick thanks very much indeed. i: g: . patrick thanks very much indeed. s»: g: indeed. and good afternoon to you. our top story on gb news today, the nhs could face more pressure if nurses reject the government's latest pay offer. that could mean a return to picket lines with nurses joining junior doctors who are staging their fourth consecutive day of strikes . the royal college of strikes. the royal college of nursing is due to announce the

results of a ballot later . a results of a ballot later. a members voted on a 5% pay rise this year as well as a cash payment for last year. unison's result is expected over the next few days . will the shadow few days. will the shadow treasury minister james murray says the government hasn't done enough to avoid industrial action. well enough to avoid industrial action . well it feels like the action. well it feels like the eowernnenr— action. well it feels like the government hasn't- ec iii" well it feels like the government hasn't really learnt onnrning— government hasn't really learnt onnrning iron — government hasn't really learnt anything from what's been going on over many months. when you kook— on over many months. when you iook or— on over many months. when you iook or-iwnior— on over many months. when you look at junior doctor pay look at the junior doctor pay oionwre— look at the junior doctor pay dispute-there— look at the junior doctor pay dispute there and there dispute in there and there and the dispute in there and there and rne—ioiiwe- the government's failure to negoriore — negotiate with them, you know, negorioriono— negotiations are about ornrorniooe- negotiations are about compromise is when have the compromise is when you have the engine— compromise is when you have the employee representatives setting out employee representatives setting owr—inirioi— employee representatives setting out—initial starting- out what their initial starting noinr— out what their initial starting noinr io. — out what their initial starting point is.ithink_ out what their initial starting point is. think people know point is. i think people know onenire— point is. i think people know inen-re nor— point is. i think people know they're not-to- point is. i think people know they're not to that. they're not likely to get that. inere— they're not likely to get that. inere-ro— they're not likely to get that. there _to have - they're not likely to get that. there _to have to - they're not likely to get that. there to have to be there is going to have to be eornrorniooe— there is going to have to be compromise. that's that's the compromise. so that's that's the neeeooin— compromise. so that's that's the necessity negotiation is to necessity of negotiation is to noke— necessity of negotiation is to make sure a compromise happens. but make sure a compromise happens. on nowing— make sure a compromise happens. but having compromise, but having that compromise, nowing— but having that compromise, nowing-io- but having that compromise, having-is what- but having that compromise, having is what is so having that deal is what is so oririeoi— having that deal is what is so critical about— having that deal is what is so critical about avoiding industrial— critical about avoiding industrial action ahead . industrial action going ahead. iieonwiiie— industrial action going ahead. meanwhile, civil— industrial action going ahead. meanwhile, civil servants- industrial action going ahead. meanwhile, civil servants will hold fresh strikes after the government announced a pay rise of between four and a half and 5. the pcs union's general secretary describing it as

insulting and completely inadequate. staff will walk out inadequate. staff will walk out in may and june across government departments and in areas such as the met office , a areas such as the met office, a mother and a father have been found guilty of murdering their baby son on christmas day. stephen boden and shannon marsden inflicted repeated acts of severe violence on their ten month old baby finley . 71 month old baby finley. 71 bruises and 57 fractures were found on his body . finley had found on his body. finley had only been placed back in their care for 39 days before he was killed. and despite social. social workers asking for a longer transition period, a child safeguarding review has now been launched . to serving now been launched. to serving met police. officers have been dismissed over discriminatory messages they sent to colleagues in a whatsapp group, including some about katie price's disabled son, harvey . a gross disabled son, harvey. a gross misconduct hearing also found that another six former officers would have been dismissed without notice if they'd still been serving. speaking on behalf

of the force, commander john saville apologised to mr. and mrs. price, saying that he was repulsed and ashamed that now a student who threw eggs at his majesty the king, has been found guilty of threatening behaviour. 23 year old patrick thelwell through at least five eggs at the monarch during a visit to york minster in november last yeah he york minster in november last year. he pleaded not guilty , year. he pleaded not guilty, arguing he acted in self—defence against what he called the violence carried out by the british state . the judge british state. the judge sentenced thelwell to a 12 month community order with 100 hours of unpaid work to do . meanwhile, of unpaid work to do. meanwhile, the king has been speaking of the king has been speaking of the pride he has in his two sons as he observed military cadets at sandhurst royal military academy this afternoon . it was academy this afternoon. it was the monarch's first visit to the parade as king. during a speech, he said he stood as a father of two alumni of the academy , two alumni of the academy, mentioning the immense pride the princes would be feeling. the king also praised the uk's role

as a leading nation in delivering training equipment and advice to ukraine. now the us president has returned to his ancestor irish roots, arriving in county mayo. it's the final day of his four day trip to ireland, which former taoiseach enda kenny said was the longest presidential visit ever to the island . president biden is island. president biden is expected to make a private visit to the mayo roscommon hospice thatis to the mayo roscommon hospice that is dedicated to his son, beau, who died of brain cancer in 2015 and a us airman suspected of leaking highly classified documents will appear at a court in massachusetts in the united states later to 31 year old jack taschereau was arrested by the fbi yesterday after allegedly sharing highly sensitive government information, which was later posted on a social media site. it's the most serious security breach in the us in years . a breach in the us in years. a european rocket is on its way to

jupiter , 4.1 billion miles away. jupiter, 4.1 billion miles away. why? to explore whether it supports life. it's going to take more than eight years for the six tonne spacecraft gift called juice to get there. it will then spend around three years using instruments to investigate whether the planet's three moons can support life in its oceans. in a £14 billion mission. if all goes well, juice should reach jupiter. by july 2031. and back here on earth, racegoer djs have braved downpours today to attend aintree's laid is day. the second day of the randox grand national festival saw punters don their finest clothes. despite the introduction of a more relaxed dress code. but umbrellas were the accessory of the day as the rain started, as the day as the rain started, as the gates were opened at the merseyside racecourse and continued throughout the day . continued throughout the day. but it failed to dampen the spirits year with gb news. i'm

back in half an hour. see you then. okay. onen— i okay. welcome then. okay. welcome back, everybody. some - okay. welcome back, everybody. some big— - okay. welcome back, everybody. some big-newo— . okay. welcome back, everybody. some big-news straight- some big breaking news straight off—going- some big breaking news straight off—going rol off the bat here. i'm going to now— off the bat here. i'm going to inrow-owon— off the bat here. i'm going to throw-away to- off the bat here. i'm going to throw away to our throw straight away to our poiirieoi— throw straight away to our political reporter, catherine roree— political reporter, catherine force-what's- political reporter, catherine. force _what's going political reporter, catherine force what's going political reporter, catherine force “rtinusfhat's going political reporter, catherine force going political reporter, catherine force isitg political reporter, catherine force ?c\» political reporter, catherine- force so no news from the rcn, but on? so no news from the rcn, but we're expecting that next hour. but just broken that unison . but just broken that unison. health workers union, they have voted to accept the pay offer, 74% voting to accept and only 26 voting to rig reject. so that was you know, we didn't know which way that was going to go. but good news on obviously in terms of people working for unison are willing to accept the offer and the rcn , well, let's offer and the rcn, well, let's see which way it goes. okay. we should know shortly. and just can you remind— should know shortly. and just can you remind people- can you remind people exactly wnor— can you remind people exactly wnor rnor— can you remind people exactly what that offer— can you remind people exactly what that offer was, please? i rower-r— what that offer was, please? i nowenit gor— what that offer was, please? i haven't got. details. - what that offer was, please? i haven't got-details. i'm. haven't got the details. i'm afraid broken a cash

afraid it's just broken a cash payment. ibelieve afraid it's just broken a cash payment. i believe it was. so onene— payment. i believe it was. so were-go.— payment. i believe it was. so were-gown- payment. i believe it was. so there-go. .5% plus- payment. i believe it was. so there-go. .5% plus of. payment. i believe it was. so. there-go. .5% plus of cash there we go. so 5% plus of cash oonnenr— there we go. so 5% plus of cash payment understanding of payment is my understanding of wnor— payment is my understanding of wno-oner— payment is my understanding of wnor-oiier io. - payment is my understanding of what-offer is. and- payment is my understanding of what offer is. and so what this pay offer is. and so one— what this pay offer is. and so one-union— what this pay offer is. and so the-union have- what this pay offer is. and so the union have voted to the unison union have voted to oeeenr— the unison union have voted to accept overwhelmingly. accept it. yeah, overwhelmingly. kno— accept it. yeah, overwhelmingly. nno-expen— accept it. yeah, overwhelmingly. and-expect saying- accept it. yeah, overwhelmingly. and expect saying that the and we're expect saying that the konoi—wwroing- and we're expect saying that the royal_ nursing will. royal college of nursing will nook— royal college of nursing will come back within about an hour winin— come back within about an hour wirnin one— come back within about an hour within the next— come back within about an hour within the next hour or so. veo. — within the next hour or so. veo. |neon— within the next hour or so. veo. |neon we— within the next hour or so. yes. imean, we didn't- within the next hour or so. yes. mean, we didn't actually yes. i mean, we didn't actually expect unison to come so expect unison to come back so quickly, have so let's quickly, but they have so let's see it'll be more good news see if it'll be more good news for government for and for the government for and patients. well, there we go. we'll keep you updated, catherine. _ we'll keep you updated, catherine. very catherine. thank you very, very noon. — catherine. thank you very, very much. _forster- catherine. thank you very, very much. forster there, catherine. thank you very, very mu< political forster there, catherine. thank you very, very mu

in rwanda— last month, suella braverman was in rwanda, where— last month, suella braverman was in rwanda, where she inspected aaaannaaanan— in rwanda, where she inspected accommodation that was supposed to accommodation that was supposed na na— accommodation that was supposed to an anna— accommodation that was supposed to be used-asylum- to be used to house asylum seekers-was- to be used to house asylum seekers.-was so- to be used to house asylum seekers. was so impressed by seekers. she was so impressed by it seekers. she was so impressed by n-j-anaa— seekers. she was so impressed by n-j-anaa-sna- it that she joked that she wanna— it that she joked that she wanted-name- it that she joked that she wanted name of the interior wanted the name of the interior designer,— wanted the name of the interior designer, which— wanted the name of the interior designer, which if— wanted the name of the interior designer, which if you're anannnna— designer, which if you're attempting try use sending attempting to try to use sending people— attempting to try to use sendingi people—deterrent, people to rwanda as a deterrent, it's people to rwanda as a deterrent, n-s probably— people to rwanda as a deterrent, n-s probably nan— people to rwanda as a deterrent, it's probably not the best idea. saaua— it's probably not the best idea. suella-there— it's probably not the best idea. suella .there we - it's probably not the best idea. suella there we but for suella but there we go. but for all suella but there we go. but for alt-nan— suella but there we go. but for au-naan ,— suella but there we go. but for au-naan , ana— suella but there we go. but for all talk , the tough all the talk, the tough talk from— all the talk, the tough talk from nna — all the talk, the tough talk from the government, the plan, jann— from the government, the plan, just una— from the government, the plan, jana nna ana— from the government, the plan, just like the planes, have not taken— just like the planes, have not taken an— just like the planes, have not taken off the— just like the planes, have not taken off the ground . let's get taken off the ground. let's get a canal— taken off the ground. let's get a closer look,— taken off the ground. let's get a closer look, shall we, the a closer look, shall we, at the deans— a closer look, shall we, at the detain-okay.- a closer look, shall we, at the details-okay. so - a closer look, shall we, at the details-okay. so it. a closer look, shall we, at the details okay. so it is details on this. okay. so it is indeed— details on this. okay. so it isi indeed—since indeed exactly one year since nons— indeed exactly one year since boris johnson— indeed exactly one year since boris johnson told the house of common— boris johnson told the house of commons that— boris johnson told the house of commons that secured a deal commons that he'd secured a deal nann— commons that he'd secured a deal onion-no— commons that he'd secured a deal nnn-no-aoyaan- with rwanda to send asylum ooonn— with rwanda to send asylum seekers—ao- with rwanda to send asylumi seekers—as part seekers to the country as part of seekers to the country as part on no— seekers to the country as part of the agreement,— seekers to the country as part of the agreement, the government nonm— of the agreement, the government would sona— of the agreement, the government would send £120— of the agreement, the government would send £120 million to the rwandan— would send £120 million to the rwandan authorities . and as rwandan authorities. and as i anon— rwandan authorities. and as i just sad,— rwandan authorities. and as i no oaa no— rwandan authorities. and as i just said, no migrants have been nonn— just said, no migrants have been flown onn— just said, no migrants have been flown out no— just said, no migrants have been flown out to rwanda. so anaonnno— flown out to rwanda. so underline the- flown out to rwanda. so underline the scale of the onn— underline the scale of the a— underline the scale of the crisis. a total— underline the scale of the crisis. a total of 45,755 people aooooa — crisis. a total of 45,755 people aooooa nno — crisis. a total of 45,755 people crossed the channel on small boats— crossed the channel on small boats tann— crossed the channel on small boats last year— crossed the channel on small boats last year .— crossed the channel on small boats last year . and to give you boats last year. and to give you a nono— boats last year. and to give you a man on— boats last year. and to give you a little bit more— boats last year. and to give you a little bit more context, 3793 people— a little bit more context, 3793 people annea— a little bit more context, 3793 people arrived in— a little bit more context, 3793 people arrived in the uk on small— people arrived in the uk on small boats—

people arrived in the uk on small boats during the first annee— small boats during the first three months— small boats during the first three months of— small boats during the first three months of 2023 alone. nnoee— three months of 2023 alone. nnoee ae— three months of 2023 alone. those are the— three months of 2023 alone. those are the people that we know— those are the people that we know about— those are the people that we know about so— those are the people that we know about so clearly not a deterrent— know about so clearly not a deterrent yet. _ know about so clearly not a deterrent yet. just the idea of eenalna— deterrent yet. just the idea of eenalna people— deterrent yet. just the idea of sending people to rwanda , just sending people to rwanda, just the sending people to rwanda, just nne anoaana— sending people to rwanda, just the thought that— sending people to rwanda, just the thought that it might be you has the thought that it might be you nae ln— the thought that it might be you nae ln no— the thought that it might be you nae ln no way— the thought that it might be you has in no way deterred people . has in no way deterred people. pael— has in no way deterred people. plea apolo— has in no way deterred people. just about where _ has in no way deterred people. just about where we are now. joining— just about where we are now. joining ne— just about where we are now. joining nellne— just about where we are now. joining me the studio is joining me in the studio is none— joining me in the studio is former victorian liberal mp. n-e— former victorian liberal mp. lee—ana- former victorian liberal mp. n-e—ana nn- former victorian liberal mp.. it's—and tim, thank it's tim smith and tim, thank you— it's tim smith and tim, thank you very— it's tim smith and tim, thank you very neon— it's tim smith and tim, thank you very much for— it's tim smith and tim, thank you very much for joining me. you very much forjoining me. i wanted— you very much forjoining me. i wanted to— you very much forjoining me. i wanted to gel— you very much forjoining me. i wanted to get you— you very much forjoining me. i wanted to get you in because we went— wanted to get you in because we went-rwanda— wanted to get you in because we went-rwandalthe- wanted to get you in because we went rwanda the top of the went to rwanda at the top of the lasa— went to rwanda at the top of the last nonn— went to rwanda at the top of the last noun eo— went to rwanda at the top of the last hour, so we— went to rwanda at the top of the last hour, so we spoke to someone there. - last hour, so we spoke to someone there. what they had to say—ane- say was basically, look, we are ready—ao- say was basically, look, we are ready—lo ourl say was basically, look, we arei ready—do our bit. ready and waiting to do our bit. nnanl— ready and waiting to do our bit. nnanl-non— ready and waiting to do our bit. thank-for the— ready and waiting to do our bit. thank for the money. and thank you for the money. and it's thank you for the money. and no a— thank you for the money. and no a-al— thank you for the money. and no a-an youn— thank you for the money. and it's a-at your end- thank you for the money. and it's a at your end are it's a mess at your end are elopplna— it's a mess at your end are storming-vou- it's a mess at your end are stopping you guys stopping it. but you guys over in stopping it. but you guys over ln aaenalla— stopping it. but you guys over in australia, cracked in australia, you cracked it. play. — in australia, you cracked it. play. .ao— in australia, you cracked it. okay. no you- in australia, you cracked it. okay. do you think that the okay. how do you think that the paplle— okay. how do you think that the paplle nlll— okay. how do you think that the paplle nlll pe— okay. how do you think that the public will be reacting now in ann— public will be reacting now in me country— public will be reacting now in me eoannn ,— public will be reacting now in this country , seeing that this country, seeing that anene-e— this country, seeing that anene-e no— this country, seeing that there's no deterrent , no this country, seeing that there's no deterrent, no one's talen— there's no deterrent, no one's taken on— there's no deterrent, no one's taken off, nothing has happened . non— taken off, nothing has happened . from an— taken off, nothing has happened . from an australian perspective,- . from an australian- perspective,-find that perspective, do you find that pepp— perspective, do you find that well? well— perspective, do you find that weird? well it's— perspective, do you find that weird? well it's weird that for foreign— weird? well it's weird that for foreign pages— weird? well it's weird that for foreign judges can stop a leapllnale— foreign judges can stop a legitimate policy of the british government— legitimate policy of the british government from _ legitimate policy of the british government from going ahead. i , pungen— government from going ahead. i , judges ln— government from going ahead. i mean , judges in strasbourg mean, judges in strasbourg enoala— mean, judges in strasbourg enoala not— mean, judges in strasbourg should not be— mean, judges in strasbourg should not be stopping the

lemon— should not be stopping the british government sending llleaal— british government sending illegal migrants to rwanda peeaaee— illegal migrants to rwanda because deterrence works . ' z because deterrence works. and we know— because deterrence works. and we know anal— because deterrence works. and we know that from — because deterrence works. and we know that from the australian example , when labour got into example, when labour got into power in australia in two thousand and seven, they rolled back all of the conservatives offshore processing over the next six years, six years, 51,000 legal migrants turned up in 2013 when tony abbott, the conservative, got elected, he bought an operation sovereign borders, which was turning back boats when safe to do so and processing people offshore in papua new guinea and nauru . papua new guinea and nauru. within six months, the boats eaoppea— within six months, the boats stopped entirely— within six months, the boats stopped entirely and when labour was stopped entirely and when labour elected— stopped entirely and when labour was elected last— stopped entirely and when labour was elected last year they did not enanae— was elected last year they did not change that— was elected last year they did not change that policy at all. pne— not change that policy at all. the australian _ not change that policy at all. the australian labour party eappon— the australian labour party support offshore processing for llleaal— support offshore processing for illegal migrants— support offshore processing for illegal migrants .— support offshore processing for illegal migrants. do you know nnal— illegal migrants. do you know nnan anal— illegal migrants. do you know what that that— illegal migrants. do you know what that that is— illegal migrants. do you know what that that is really fascinating— what that that is really fascinating because there's two elements— fascinating because there's two elements to— fascinating because there's two elements to that. _ fascinating because there's two elements to that. there's manna— elements to that. there's turning back— elements to that. there's turning back the boats and anene-e— turning back the boats and there's processing. there's offshore processing. and i there's offshore processing. and l-eala— there's offshore processing. and l-eala ana— there's offshore processing. and l-eala and l- there's offshore processing. and l-eala ana l-bvl i have long said and i stand by he— i have long said and i stand by ale-ne— i have long said and i stand by ale-ne-elan- this, that if we did start manna— this, that if we did start turning boats- this, that if we did start turning boats there this, that if we did start- turning boats-there would turning boats back, there would be - kerfuffle. - turning boats back, there would be - kerfuffle. but - be an initial kerfuffle. but lne— be an initial kerfuffle. but once the boats— be an initial kerfuffle. but once the boats stopped coming ana— once the boats stopped coming aanwa-e— once the boats stopped coming and-was added,-

and once that was added, if labour— and once that was added, if. labour—general labour do win the next general eleenon — labour do win the next general eleenon l— labour do win the next general election, i tell— labour do win the next general election, i tell you— labour do win the next general election, i tell you what, they would—anal- election, i tell you what, they would—that policy| election, i tell you what, they wou the that policy election, i tell you what, they wou the evidence that policy election, i tell you what, they wou the evidence forat policy election, i tell you what, they wou the evidence forat poisy and the evidence for that is nnal-e— and the evidence for that is what's happened australia. what's happened in australia. non-ve— what's happened in australia. . tonne—people you've got to smash the people smugglers— you've got to smash the people smugglers business model, but you've got to smash the people smug importantly ss model, but you've got to smash the people smug importantly you've el, but you've got to smash the people smug importantly you've got)ut you've got to smash the people smug importantly you've got to more importantly you've got to sena— more importantly you've got to eena—lnal- more importantly you've got to send—that it's- send a message that it's actually— send a message that it's actually a— send a message that it's actually a privilege, not a non— actually a privilege, not a non lo— actually a privilege, not a right to live— actually a privilege, not a right to live and work in the unnee— right to live and work in the unnea-ae- right to live and work in the united - as the - right to live and work in the united as the same right to live and work in the. united-as the same in united kingdom as the same in auenalla. — united kingdom as the same in australia. it's— united kingdom as the same in australia. it's a— united kingdom as the same in australia. c lg australia. it's a sovereign country. and as john howard famously once said, we decide as in the government who comes to this country and the matter in which they come not the people smugglers, not people just getting boat thinking getting on a boat thinking that they up uninvited they can turn up here uninvited . and no coming to britain is a pnvlleae— . and no coming to britain is a privilege-you— . and no coming to britain is a pnvlleae-you-ln- and no coming to britain is a privilege you in the privilege and you get in the queue— privilege and you get in the queue-n— privilege and you get in the queue-n lne- privilege and you get in the queue it the right way. queue and do it the right way. vou— queue and do it the right way. you non-a— queue and do it the right way. you loan-on- queue and do it the right way. you lone-on a- queue and do it the right way. you don't-on a boat. i you don't just get on a boat. and that's what the british people—anato- and that's what the british i people _that's what people expect and that's what the-government- people expect and that's what the government needs to the british government needs to lo. — the british government needs to lo. _nonl— the british government needs to. do. _rishi-wants do. because if rishi sunak wants to next election, he's to win the next election, he's got those boats back. got to turn those boats back. he's stop boats he's got to stop the boats immediately. 45,000 people turning uninvited, illegally turning up uninvited, illegally every and every year is unacceptable and unacceptable in this country . unacceptable in this country. and if they don't get this right , if they don't get the rwanda deal up and running, then i'm afraid the tories are going to

really struggle at the next election. it was also a question of election. it was also a question on puplle— election. it was also a question of public beliefs.— election. it was also a question of public beliefs. the- f" it was also a question of public beliefs. the latest polllna— of public beliefs. the latest polling appears— of public beliefs. the latest polling appears to suggest that aouna— polling appears to suggest that aouna just— polling appears to suggest that around just about— polling appears to suggest that around just about most people, pupa— around just about most people, just about— around just about most people, just about most— around just about most people, just about most people around 5050,— just about most people around 5050, n— just about most people around 5050, n l-n— just about most people around 5050, if i'm being— just about most people around 5050, if i'm being honest, euppon— 5050, if i'm being honest, euppon ane— 5050, if i'm being honest, support the rwanda scheme. but yen— support the rwanda scheme. but yen feu— support the rwanda scheme. but very new people— support the rwanda scheme. but very few people think it will actually— very few people think it will actually work. _ very few people think it will actually work. it— very few people think it will actually work. it will actually tale — actually work. it will actually tale on— actually work. it will actually tale on .— actually work. it will actually take off . how— actually work. it will actually take off . how important was it take off. how important was it in take off. how important was it n auenalla— take off. how important was it in australia to— take off. how important was it in australia to get the public on sleep— in australia to get the public on side? did— in australia to get the public on side? did the— in australia to get the public on side? did the public ever neally— on side? did the public ever neally eel— on side? did the public ever really get fully— on side? did the public ever really get fully behind it ? the really get fully behind it? the puplle— really get fully behind it? the puplle ane— really get fully behind it? the public are completely on side ana— public are completely on side and n— public are completely on side and n fae— public are completely on side and in fact tony— public are completely on side and in fact tony abbott won an eleonon— and in fact tony abbott won an eleenon ln— and in fact tony abbott won an election in 2013— and in fact tony abbott won an election in 2013 because of it ana— election in 2013 because of it and lapoun— election in 2013 because of it and labour essentially neutralised_ and labour essentially neutralised this as an election leeue— neutralised this as an election ln— neutralised this as an election issue in 2016— neutralised this as an election issue in 2016 by— neutralised this as an election issue in 2016 by agreeing with n. — issue in 2016 by agreeing with n. yeo— issue in 2016 by agreeing with n. yes. so— issue in 2016 by agreeing with it. yes. so yes,— issue in 2016 by agreeing with it. “lit: so yes, yes. clearly it. yes. so yes, yes. clearly lne— it. yes. so yes, yes. clearly ane puplle— it. yes. so yes, yes. clearly ane puplle ,— it. yes. so yes, yes. clearly the public , the— it. “lit: so yes, yes. clearly the public , the public are well, the public, the public are well, because— the public, the public are well, because people— the public, the public are well, because people were 1200 people anonnea— because people were 1200 people donned a— because people were 1200 people drowned at sea— because people were 1200 people drowned at sea over— because people were 1200 people drowned at sea over those years. wnen— drowned at sea over those years. when lapoun— drowned at sea over those years. when labour wound _ drowned at sea over those years. when labour wound back- drowned at sea over those years. when labour wound back the former conservatives policies. so no one wants to see people drowning at sea? no, we know that. i think 25 people have drowned in the channel last year . that's we don't want to see those sorts of tragedies. we need a strong deterrent to stop people from making that dangerous journey. the only dangerous journey. and the only way that is to say to the

way to do that is to say to the people smugglers and just to say to illegal migrants. if to would be illegal migrants. if you england, you're not you get to england, you're not going to live here. you're going to rwanda you're going back to rwanda or you're going back to rwanda or you're going back to came from. well, to where you came from. well, there you go, ladies— to where you came from. well, there you go, ladies and- there you go, ladies and eenllenen— there you go, ladies and gentlemen, you've heard it anaem— gentlemen, you've heard it straight from _ gentlemen, you've heard it straight from mouth a straight from the mouth of a enap— straight from the mouth of a enap-nae— straight from the mouth of a chap - has lived - straight from the mouth of a chap has lived it, been chap who has lived it, has been anene— chap who has lived it, has been there-australian— chap who has lived it, has been there australian politics, chap who has lived it, has been therlit australian politics, chap who has lived it, has been therlit allustralian politics, chap who has lived it, has been therlit all unfold,1 politics, chap who has lived it, has been therlit all unfold, saw.itics, chap who has lived it, has been therlit all unfold, saw.itischeme saw it all unfold, saw a scheme a unle— saw it all unfold, saw a scheme a llnlelllle— saw it all unfold, saw a scheme a little i like the _ saw it all unfold, saw a scheme a little like the rwanda a little bit like the rwanda plan— a little bit like the rwanda plan government has plan that our government has been— been trying to impose, barely ana— been trying to impose, barely and saw— been trying to impose, barely and saw what— been trying to impose, barely and saw what the output of that ana— and saw what the output of that was. and crucially— and saw what the output of that was. and crucially as well saw lnal— was. and crucially as well saw that-all— was. and crucially as well saw that-all-political- that for all the political oppoelnon— that for all the political. opposition—and that for all the political- opposition_and for opposition at the time and for all me— opposition at the time and for all lne-of— opposition at the time and for all the -of faux- opposition at the time and for all the of faux outrage at opposition at the time and for all time, of faux outrage at opposition at the time and for all time, once faux outrage at opposition at the time and for all time, once itiux outrage at opposition at the time and for all time, once it works, �*age at opposition at the time and for all time, once it works, noe at the time, once it works, no oppoelnon— the time, once it works, no oppoelnon party- the time, once it works, no opposition party would then row pael— opposition party would then row paelllnal— opposition party would then row back-that-reverse- opposition party would then row back that reverse that back on that and reverse that polley— back on that and reverse that polley .— back on that and reverse that polley . n— back on that and reverse that polley . n pue— back on that and reverse that policy . it just wouldn't happen. policy. it just wouldn't happen. so policy. it just wouldn't happen. so-uneneven— policy. it just wouldn't happen. so whenever rishi sunak so now, whenever rishi sunak lnanl— so now, whenever rishi sunak wank-yen,— so now, whenever rishi sunak ynanl-yen, yen- so now, whenever rishi sunak. thank-very, very-tim. thank you very, very much, tim. nn — thank you very, very much, tim. nn _tonnnen- tim smith there, former ylolonan— tim smith there, former victorian-mp. i tim smith there, former victorian mp. look, victorian liberal mp. look, a nenlnaen— victorian liberal mp. look, a nenlnaen on— victorian liberal mp. look, a reminder of that— victorian liberal mp. look, a reminder of that breaking news lnal— reminder of that breaking news lnal l— reminder of that breaking news lnal l pnouana— reminder of that breaking news that i brought you just a few moments— that i brought you just a few moments ago.— that i brought you just a few moments ago. members of unison nave— moments ago. members of unison have overwhelmingly have voted overwhelmingly to accept—aneu- accept a pay offer aimed at neeolvlne— accept a pay offer aimed at resolving-long- accept a pay offer aimed at resolving long running resolving the long running nurses dispute. the union announced that 74% of those who voted — announced that 74% of those who voted paolea— announced that 74% of those who voted backed the— announced that 74% of those who voted backed the deal of a 5% pay— voted backed the deal of a 5% pay nee— voted backed the deal of a 5% pay ann— voted backed the deal of a 5% pay rise this year— voted backed the deal of a 5% pay rise this year and a cash payment—

pay rise this year and a cash payment on— pay rise this year and a cash payment for last— pay rise this year and a cash payment for last year. there were some rumblings that they nlenl— were some rumblings that they nlenl nola— were some rumblings that they might hold out— were some rumblings that they might hold out and look for a page— might hold out and look for a bigger lump— might hold out and look for a bigger lump sum in a cash payment.— bigger lump sum in a cash paynenl. noa— bigger lump sum in a cash payment. not so much about the actual— payment. not so much about the actual pay— payment. not so much about the actual pay onen— payment. not so much about the actual pay offer in— payment. not so much about the actual pay offer in terms of the pay— actual pay offer in terms of the pay nee— actual pay offer in terms of the pay pul— actual pay offer in terms of the pay rise, but there— actual pay offer in terms of the pay rise, but there we go. they nave— pay rise, but there we go. they have accepted _ pay rise, but there we go. they have accepted overwhelmingly lee unison. _members- have accepted overwhelmingly lee unison. members 5% pay unison. now those members 5% pay rise unison. now those members 5% pay lnle— unison. now those members 5% pay lnle yea— unison. now those members 5% pay rise this year and— unison. now those members 5% pay rise this year and a— unison. now those members 5% pay rise this year and a cash payment— rise this year and a cash payment on— rise this year and a cash payment for last year. i am joined— payment for last year. i am joined no— payment for last year. i am joined py— payment for last year. i am joined now by olivia princewill uno— joined now by olivia princewill nno le— joined now by olivia princewill nno le an— joined now by olivia princewill who is an paediatric nurse . who is an nhs paediatric nurse. loon— who is an nhs paediatric nurse. lool, onwa— who is an nhs paediatric nurse. look, olivia, thank— who is an nhs paediatric nurse. look, olivia, thank you very nuan— look, olivia, thank you very nuen fon— look, olivia, thank you very much for joining— look, olivia, thank you very much forjoining me and i don't know— much forjoining me and i don't know exactly— much forjoining me and i don't know exactly about your enuanon— know exactly about your situation so— know exactly about your situation so did you did you nave— situation so did you did you nave a— situation so did you did you nave a vole— situation so did you did you have a vote in— situation so did you did you have a vote in this ? what have a vote in this? what nappenea— have a vote in this? what nappenea-e - have a vote in this? whati happened-? yeah. have a vote in this? what- happened-? yeah. so thank happened for you? yeah. so thank you for having me. i voted with the you for having me. i voted with ane locu— you for having me. i voted with ane non, unn— you for having me. i voted with the rcn, um, personally- lg ivoted with the rcn, um, personally , i the rcn, um, personally, i plan-l— the rcn, um, personally, i alan-l vole— the rcn, um, personally, i didn't vote to— the rcn, um, personally, i didn't vote to join , um, and didn't vote to join, um, and accept— didn't vote to join, um, and accept lne— didn't vote to join, um, and accept the deal— didn't vote to join, um, and accept the deal as i don't think it's accept the deal as i don't think we pulle— accept the deal as i don't think we aune nan— accept the deal as i don't think it's quite fair to— accept the deal as i don't think it's quite fair to be— accept the deal as i don't think it's quite fair to be honest. nul— it's quite fair to be honest. nue l— it's quite fair to be honest. nul l lo— it's quite fair to be honest. but i do understand- it's quite fair to be honest. but i do understand that other people in unison who voted to accept that . okay. right. so accept that. okay. right. so youne— accept that. okay. right. so you're, we're still— ff okay. right. so you're, we're still awaiting the neeulle— you're, we're still awaiting the neeulle ol— you're, we're still awaiting the results of the— you're, we're still awaiting the results of the rcn potentially in results of the rcn potentially ln lne— results of the rcn potentially ln lne next— results of the rcn potentially in the next hour— results of the rcn potentially in the next hour or so . so we'll in the next hour or so. so we'll lune— in the next hour or so. so we'll lnlne lnal— in the next hour or so. so we'll pnlnp lnal lo— in the next hour or so. so we'll bring that to you— in the next hour or so. so we'll bring that to you as and when we get bring that to you as and when we eel p.— bring that to you as and when we eel p. so— bring that to you as and when we eel ll. so you— bring that to you as and when we get it. so you voted— bring that to you as and when we get it. so you voted to not accept— get it. so you voted to not aeeepl anal— get it. so you voted to not accept that deal. so was it just

accept that deal. so was it just a straightforward— accept that deal. so was it just a straightforward word for you as a straightforward word for you ae-alan-l— a straightforward word for you as-didn't think- a straightforward word for you as didn't think was as you didn't think it was financially— as you didn't think it was financially good enough? can i ask:— financially good enough? can i ael-uoula— financially good enough? can i ask,-would you- financially good enough? can i ask, would you have ask, what would you have accepted— ask, what would you have aoeeplea e— ask, what would you have aoeeplea e l— ask, what would you have accepted ? i mean, personally, accepted? i mean, personally, i as soon as i saw— accepted? i mean, personally, i as soon as i saw the deal, i luel— as soon as i saw the deal, i luel anouanl— as soon as i saw the deal, i just thought that- as soon as i saw the deal, i just thought that it's not good enouan. — just thought that it's not good enough- now— just thought that it's not good enough. how can— just thought that it's not good enough. in?" 7 lg: just thought that it's not good enough. 7 lg: enough. how can you? i get that they want to give us a one off payment and also the 5. um, you know , increase. but that's not know, increase. but that's not enough. if you compare that to the cost of living crisis, that's literally not it. and this is a conversation that, funny enough, with some of funny enough, i had with some of my colleagues and i really think the government better. the government could do better. i think is really all i don't think 5% is really all they could offer. think they they could offer. i think they could more. so they could offer. i think they could more . so you could do a bit more. so you think that they— could do a bit more. so you think that they should- could do a bit more. so you- think that they should-done think that they should have done a—nlln— think that they should have done a—nlln loll- think that they should have done a_with both the i a little bit more with both the peneenlaae— a little bit more with both the peneenlage pay— a little bit more with both the percentage pay rise and the one off percentage pay rise and the one on payment— percentage pay rise and the one on payment e— percentage pay rise and the one off payment ? yeah, i don't think off payment? yeah, i don't think lnal— off payment? yeah, i don't think lnal a— off payment? yeah, i don't think lnal a one— off payment? yeah, i don't think that a one off— off payment? yeah, i don't think that a one off payment of 1655 plue— that a one off payment of 1655 plue ane— that a one off payment of 1655 plue lne eooe— that a one off payment of 1655 plus the 3000 slightly above lnan— plus the 3000 slightly above lnal, lney— plus the 3000 slightly above that, they want— plus the 3000 slightly above that, they want to give us for me— that, they want to give us for lne lax— that, they want to give us for lne lax yean— that, they want to give us for the tax year 2022— that, they want to give us for the tax year 2022 to 2023 and for the tax year 2022 to 2023 and lon lne — the tax year 2022 to 2023 and for the agenda— the tax year 2022 to 2023 and for the agenda for— the tax year 2022 to 2023 and for the agenda for change is

enouen— for the agenda for change is enouan . — for the agenda for change is enough . ll— for the agenda for change is enough . if you— for the agenda for change is enough . �*" for the agenda for change is enough. �*" t: for the agenda for change is enough . �*" t: enough. if you then include the 5, that's literally nothing. if you sum it up and consider the whole economic crisis that the whole economic crisis that the whole country is going through, there should be more that they should be able do. they've should be able to do. they've literally nurses striking literally had nurses striking for months now, actually . yeah for months now, actually. yeah can i ask what would so we know lnal— can i ask what would so we know now that unison— can i ask what would so we know now that unison have come back ana— now that unison have come back and accepted— now that unison have come back and accepted this— now that unison have come back and accepted this deal. it ouea— and accepted this deal. it sounds like— and accepted this deal. it sounds like it's- and accepted this deal. it sounds like it's pretty close. we— sounds like it's pretty close. we a— sounds like it's pretty close. we a eloee— sounds like it's pretty close. it's a close run— sounds like it's pretty close. it's a close run thing with the locu— it's a close run thing with the locu. non— it's a close run thing with the rcn. from what— it's a close run thing with the rcn. from what we can gather so far. rcn. from what we can gather so fan. so— rcn. from what we can gather so fan. so let-e— rcn. from what we can gather so far. so let's completely far. so let's just completely hypothetically— far. so let's just completely hypothetically here, let's just say hypothetically here, let's just eay ll-e— hypothetically here, let's just eay ll-e llna— hypothetically here, let's just say it's kind of— hypothetically here, let's just say it's kind of the brexit neeull— say it's kind of the brexit neeull ol— say it's kind of the brexit result of 52,— say it's kind of the brexit result of 52, 48, right? in your laoun— result of 52, 48, right? in your laoun ana— result of 52, 48, right? in your favour and your— result of 52, 48, right? in your favour and your union therefore volee— favour and your union therefore volee aaalnel— favour and your union therefore votes against these these, these deale— votes against these these, these aeale lnal— votes against these these, these deals that would _ votes against these these, these deals that would put you at actually— deals that would put you at aelually ln— deals that would put you at actually in quite a small nlnonlly— actually in quite a small minority rmt— actually in quite a small minority rmt group of nurses is as minority rmt group of nurses is ae a unole— minority rmt group of nurses is as a whole nationwide who naven-l— as a whole nationwide who haven't voted— as a whole nationwide who haven't voted to- as a whole nationwide who haven't voted to accept a deal if haven't voted to accept a deal ll anal— haven't voted to accept a deal ll lnal le— haven't voted to accept a deal ll lnal le lne— haven't voted to accept a deal if that is the case,— haven't voted to accept a deal if that is the case, do you lnlnl— if that is the case, do you think morally— if that is the case, do you think morally it's still okay for think morally it's still okay lon you— think morally it's still okay to you lo— think morally it's still okay for you to withdraw your labour? i'm for you to withdraw your labour? l-n loollne— for you to withdraw your labour? l-n loollna al— for you to withdraw your labour? i'm looking at access deaths llaunee— i'm looking at access deaths nlpunee non— i'm looking at access deaths figures from the— i'm looking at access deaths figures from the last junior loelone— figures from the last junior doctors strikes— figures from the last junior doctors strikes and not the nurses strike— doctors strikes and not the

nurses strike last junior aoelone— nurses strike last junior doctors strike- nurses strike last junior doctors strike and the excess leane— doctors strike and the excess deaths tripled _ doctors strike and the excess deaths tripled during that time. i deaths tripled during that time. l luel— deaths tripled during that time. l luel uonena— deaths tripled during that time. i just wonder how— deaths tripled during that time. i just wonder how you feel about lnal— i just wonder how you feel about lnal . — i just wonder how you feel about lnal . l— i just wonder how you feel about that. i personally— i just wonder how you feel about that . i personally think- i just wonder how you feel about that . i just wonder how you feel about that. i personally think, you know, although we are going to be a small minority, it's still our choice right? we are the ones that decided to strike for this because we do really believe in the government, in them able to give us them being able to give us a fair pay, especially for what people have been through during the covid pandemic. what people are still going through on the ward. i mean, i've seen the situation ward is really situation on the ward is really terrible. is they can terrible. if 5% is all they can do in a situation of economic crisis , cost of living being, crisis, cost of living being, you know, sky rocketed, then that's quite poor and it's fine even if what is more minority, that's okay. but the point is there are still people out there that i'm very sure are still not happy with that. mm okay. and can can i just ask you a and can can i just ask you a little bit can can i just ask you a little loll aloul— can can i just ask you a little bit about how— can can i just ask you a little bit about how you— can can i just ask you a little bit about how you do feel about lnoee— bit about how you do feel about lnoee eee— bit about how you do feel about those excess death— bit about how you do feel about those excess death figures? neauee— those excess death figures? because - people - those excess death figures? because people do have because i think people do have a lot ol— because i think people do have a lol on eynpalny— because i think people do have a lot of sympathy for— because i think people do have a lot of sympathy for especially nurses, especially nurses neally— nurses, especially nurses really. actually, i think in all

of lneee— really. actually, i think in all of these these _ really. actually, i think in all of these these strike actions. nul— of these these strike actions. nul unen— of these these strike actions. nul wnen you— of these these strike actions. but when you do— of these these strike actions. but when you do look at the excess death— but when you do look at the excess death figures and you've got excess death figures and you've aol lne— excess death figures and you've aol lne lunlon— excess death figures and you've got the junior doctors on strike aealn— got the junior doctors on strike aaaln no— got the junior doctors on strike again ana— got the junior doctors on strike again now and there was eonelnlne— again now and there was something like 165,000 appointments that had to be cancelled— appointments that had to be cancelled the— appointments that had to be cancelled the last time they uenelenlle.— cancelled the last time they were i strike. - seen i were on strike. we've seen eaeeee-up- were on strike. we've seen eee-up lyl were on strike. we've seen. excess-up by three excess deaths go up by three llnee— excess deaths go up by three llnee unal— excess deaths go up by three times what they— excess deaths go up by three times what they would normally be. l— times what they would normally be. l mean— times what they would normally be. i mean, they've— times what they would normally be. i mean, they've got a union leaaen— be. i mean, they've got a union leaaen nno-e— be. i mean, they've got a union leader who's been— be. i mean, they've got a union leader who's been on holiday as well— leader who's been on holiday as well-lneee— leader who's been on holiday as well-these strikes.- leader who's been on holiday as well these strikes. so well during these strikes. so nee— well during these strikes. so ne-elue— well during these strikes. so he's, we understand been he's, as we understand it, been on lull— he's, as we understand it, been on full pay— he's, as we understand it, been on full pay whilst— he's, as we understand it, been on full pay whilst ordinary lunlon— on full pay whilst ordinary junior doctors— on full pay whilst ordinary junior doctors hospital junior doctors and hospital elall—oull junior doctors and hospital- staff_out without staff will have gone out without pay staff will have gone out without pay on— staff will have gone out without pay on elnlle— staff will have gone out without pay on strike action. they're do you— pay on strike action. they're do you feel— pay on strike action. they're do you feel llle— pay on strike action. they're do you feel like you're being led loun— you feel like you're being led aoun lne— you feel like you're being led down the garden— you feel like you're being led down the garden path a bit here by lulle— down the garden path a bit here by quite militant— down the garden path a bit here by quite militant union leaders 7 by quite militant union leaders e l— by quite militant union leaders e l neally— by quite militant union leaders e l neally lo— by quite militant union leaders ? i really do think— by quite militant union leaders ? i really do think it's- by quite militant union leaders ? i really do think it's bad in any case because someone is going to be losing from this situation. and unfortunately , situation. and unfortunately, you know, considering the duties that nurses and doctors have, i don't believe it's our choice to actually allow people to die. right but the point is, you can't expect important members of the society that play a functional role go to work and

literally dodi work for such long hours . i literally dodi work for such long hours. i mean, junior doctors worked for incredibly long hours. so the nurses in conditions that are absolutely ridiculous to them come to work and be happy with their job. okay, that's not even safe for the patient. so what we're trying to do here and i believe that's what everyone is trying to achieve, is come to a situation where a sort situation where there is a sort of between us nurses, of agreement between us nurses, the junior doctors and also the government to feel like when you're going to work, you're safe . don't that. if safe. i don't believe that. if you junior doctor now you ask any junior doctor now or any that works, for any nurse that works, for example, in icu or any other setting, if they're happy with their know, the case their pay and you know, the case load that they have, they're going to tell you they're happy. of they're but at of course they're not. but at the we do understand the same time, we do understand that, you know, ethically, some the same time, we do understand that, y(mightiv, ethically, some the same time, we do understand that, y(mightview1ically, some the same time, we do understand that, y(might view hasly, some the same time, we do understand that, y(might view hasly, sbeen people might view has not been good allowing good because we're allowing a lot of people to, you know, die , 90 lot of people to, you know, die , go through situations that are really not ideal for them. but at time , we have lives. at the same time, we have lives. okay we're trying to be fair here for everyone . so here for everyone. so i ultimately think it's up to the

government. would you would you can ican government. would you would you can i can i could i just ask one can i can i could ijust ask one very, very quick one, just just to wrap this with this . you to wrap this off with this. you get a decent percentage- you get a decent percentage of your wage— get a decent percentage of your wage wnlen— get a decent percentage of your wage which goes— get a decent percentage of your wage which goes to your pension. no wage which goes to your pension. wo ana— wage which goes to your pension. no one would— wage which goes to your pension. no and would you— wage which goes to your pension. no and would you be willing to would— no and would you be willing to would you— no and would you be willing to would you le— no and would you be willing to would you be willing to forego ol— would you be willing to forego ol lnal— would you be willing to forego some of that for— would you be willing to forego some of that for more upfront pay?— some of that for more upfront paye neauee— some of that for more upfront pay? because that is the trade off pay? because that is the trade oll l— pay? because that is the trade on l lllnl— pay? because that is the trade off i think, for— pay? because that is the trade off i think, for most people, len-l— off i think, for most people, put ne— off i think, for most people, isn't it? you _ off i think, for most people, isn't it? you may- off i think, for most people, isn't it? you may be a paid more up nonl— isn't it? you may be a paid more up nnonl wno— isn't it? you may be a paid more up front who don't— isn't it? you may be a paid more up front who don't get anything like up front who don't get anything llle lne— up front who don't get anything like the amount— up front who don't get anything like the amount of pension that you would— like the amount of pension that you would eel— like the amount of pension that you would get or— like the amount of pension that you would get or certainly the tuna— you would get or certainly the junior doctors— you would get or certainly the junior doctors would get. people nlenl— junior doctors would get. people nlenl-wanl— junior doctors would get. people nlenl-wanl lo- junior doctors would get. people might want to have it might think you want to have it all — might think you want to have it all l— might think you want to have it all l oon-l— might think you want to have it all. i don't think— might think you want to have it all. i don't think we- might think you want to have it all. to e might think you want to have it all. cl?" e "l: all. i don't think we want to have it all. i don't understand why we have to trade like it's like either now or and like we either take now or and give some later or we take give up some later or we take some later and give up some. now. i don't think in other countries, nurses in or like why can junior doctor is so can i say junior doctor is so difficult? actually not if difficult? it's actually not if you and you look at america and australia and other states should we have an american health then this is the health system then this is the thing. then why don't we lnplenenl— lg then why don't we implement american implement an american health eyelen — implement an american health eyelen ln— implement an american health eyelen lll le— implement an american health system lit is still— implement an american health system it is still down to

system if it is still down to we— system if it is still down to the government— system if it is still down to the government to decide if they lellewe— the government to decide if they lellewe lnan— the government to decide if they believe that, oh,— the government to decide if they believe that, oh, you know, we're not going— believe that, oh, you know, we're not going to put any money lonwanae— we're not going to put any money lonwanae you-e— we're not going to put any money forwards, you're not— we're not going to put any money forwards, you're not going to get— forwards, you're not going to gel anylnlna— forwards, you're not going to get anything else, then it's llne. — get anything else, then it's llne. lnen— get anything else, then it's fine. then it— get anything else, then it's fine. then it would- get anything else, then it's fine. " e : st fine. then it would be such a waste of work to people that founded to taxpayers who founded the nhs to taxpayers who strongly believe in having a free healthcare system. right? it would be such a waste of opportunity. motty. if it opportunity. motty. but if it has result to this condition has to result to this condition and the of it, it is and by the look of it, it is going us that way, then you going to us that way, then you know. absolutely. all right, look, appreciate your look, i really appreciate your time and must i've learnt time and i must say i've learnt a from this conversation. a lot from this conversation. so thank you very, very much. as onwa— so thank you very, very much. as ellwla _wene. - so thank you very, very much. as olivia _there,-is. so thank you very, very much. as oli nhs-there,-is. so thank you very, very much. as oli nhs paediatriciere, is so thank you very, very much. as oli nhs paediatric nurse, is so thank you very, very much. as olinhs paediatric nurse, is do an nhs paediatric nurse, what do you-wale— an nhs paediatric nurse, what do you-lnaw-eolnal an nhs paediatric nurse, what doj you _that?-going to you make of that? we're going to go-gb_ you make of that? we're going to go-gb wewe— you make of that? we're going to go gb news national go now to gb news national neponen— go now to gb news national. neponen—wno-e reporter theo chikomba, who's oulelae— reporter theo chikomba, who's outside department health outside the department of health and—bigl and social care. theo yeah, big _wey- and social care. theo yeah, big news. _they have. and social care. theo yeah, big. news. _they have voted news. so unison they have voted to news. so unison they have voted lo pael— news. so unison they have voted lo back we— news. so unison they have voted lo pael lne pay— news. so unison they have voted to back the pay offer. we're ellll— to back the pay offer. we're still awaiting _ to back the pay offer. we're still awaiting for the royal college— still awaiting for the royal college ol— still awaiting for the royal college of nursing. what's the laleew— college of nursing. what's the latest? where _ college of nursing. what's the latest? where you up? us yes. nonnape— latest? where you up? us yes. perhaps there's— latest? where you up? us yes. perhaps there's good— latest? where you up? us yes. perhaps there's good news- latest? where you up? us yes. perhaps there's good news for those inside the department here. unison members . almost here. unison members. almost three quarters of them accepted this pay deal. 74. so over.

288,000 members of staff who are unison members who work in the nhs. we are still waiting for rcn results, which we're expecting some point today, but for now we do have these results which have come in. so this includes ambulance crews, some nurses and other health care staff who are unison members in terms of the deal. they have accepted . it's a deal that accepted. it's a deal that includes a permanent 5% pay rise for 2023 and 2024, as well as up . to £1,065 and also an extra one lump sum that they'll also be getting . so of course this be getting. so of course this will be good news for those who particularly need to go into the hospitals in the next couple of weeks and months. indeed they will still have some of these staff who are part of this union. but of course, we're still await for the results of the rcn union, which we're expecting at point. this expecting at some point. this afternoon. it's also worth mentioning what sarah gorton , mentioning what sarah gorton, who is the representative from

unison , she said, clearly health unison, she said, clearly health workers would have wanted more, but this was the best that could be achieved through the negotiation. we know a lot of health workers, as we heard in your previous guest, speaking about some of challenges about some of the challenges they're the they're experiencing at the moment . and of course, inflation moment. and of course, inflation is one of them . absolutely. is one of them. absolutely. lnanl— is one of them. absolutely. lnanl you— is one of them. absolutely. lnanl you weny— absolutely. thank you very much, teacher compo— thank you very much, teacher oonlo lnene. — thank you very much, teacher combo there. our— thank you very much, teacher combo there. our national neponen— combo there. our national reporter outside the department of reporter outside the department ol weanl— reporter outside the department of lean ana— reporter outside the department of health and social care. that lneallna— of health and social care. that breaking news— of health and social care. that breaking news that one the breaking news that one of the nurses-unison- breaking news that one of the nurses unison has voted nurses union's unison has voted to nurses union's unison has voted lo tale— nurses union's unison has voted lo tale ane— nurses union's unison has voted lo lale lne pay— nurses union's unison has voted to take the pay off— nurses union's unison has voted to take the pay off a 5% plus a olf— to take the pay off a 5% plus a one off payment.— to take the pay off a 5% plus a one off payment. we await to lean— one off payment. we await to lean wnal— one off payment. we await to hear what the _ one off payment. we await to hear what the royal college of wunelne— hear what the royal college of wunelnp aoee.— hear what the royal college of nursing does. we're supposed to go nursing does. we're supposed to eo-lnoee— nursing does. we're supposed to go-those results— nursing does. we're supposed to go those results for you in go get those results for you in we— go get those results for you in lne-noun— go get those results for you in ale-noun on— go get those results for you in the-hour or.so- go get those results for you in the hour or so there we the next hour or so. so there we 90-— the next hour or so. so there we go. nann— the next hour or so. so there we go. lelenl. moving— the next hour or so. so there we go. right. moving should go. right. moving on. should a nnn-ape— go. right. moving on. should a nnn-ape le- go. right. moving on. should a man rape be allowed man jailed for rape be allowed to man jailed for rape be allowed lo keep— man jailed for rape be allowed lo keep me— man jailed for rape be allowed to keep the millions of pounds he to keep the millions of pounds ne on— to keep the millions of pounds he won on the— to keep the millions of pounds he won on the lottery? i'm going to he won on the lottery? i'm going lo neal— he won on the lottery? i'm going lo neal lnal— he won on the lottery? i'm going to read that again.— he won on the lottery? i'm going to read that again. should a man lallea— to read that again. should a man lallea lon— to read that again. should a man lallel non nape— to read that again. should a man jailed for rape be— to read that again. should a man jailed for rape be allowed to keep— jailed for rape be allowed to keep ane— jailed for rape be allowed to keep the millions of pounds he on we— keep the millions of pounds he won on the lottery— keep the millions of pounds he won on the lottery ? i'm patrick won on the lottery? i'm patrick cnnlelye— won on the lottery? i'm patrick cnnlelye on— won on the lottery? i'm patrick ennlelye on on— won on the lottery? i'm patrick christys on gb news. this is nnllaln-e— christys on gb news. this is

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channel welcome i channel- welcome back. |cnannel- welcome back. now |cnannel— welcome back. now here's a aueellon— welcome back. now here's a aueellon lon— welcome back. now here's a question for you. _ welcome back. now here's a question for you. should a man lallea— question for you. should a man lallea lon— question for you. should a man lallel non nape— question for you. should a man jailed for rape be— question for you. should a man jailed for rape be allowed to keep— jailed for rape be allowed to keep ane— jailed for rape be allowed to keep the millions of pounds he on we— keep the millions of pounds he won on the lottery— keep the millions of pounds he won on the lottery after a 15 yea— won on the lottery after a 15 yean legal— won on the lottery after a 15 year legal battle? laura thaw is alle— year legal battle? laura thaw is alle lo— year legal battle? laura thaw is now able to get— year legal battle? laura thaw is now able to get his hands on a £7 now able to get his hands on a ll nllllon— now able to get his hands on a £7 million. he— now able to get his hands on a £7 million. he won— now able to get his hands on a £7 million. he won back in 2004 wnen— £7 million. he won back in 2004 wnen ne— £7 million. he won back in 2004 wnen ne louanl— £7 million. he won back in 2004 when he bought a— £7 million. he won back in 2004 when he bought a ticket while on day when he bought a ticket while on lay neleaee— when he bought a ticket while on day release from _ when he bought a ticket while on day release from prison horse epenl— day release from prison horse epenl eo— day release from prison horse epenl eo yeane— day release from prison horse spent 30 years in— day release from prison horse spent 30 years in jail for one nape.— spent 30 years in jail for one nape. lnnee— spent 30 years in jail for one rape, three attempted rapes, and two rape, three attempted rapes, and lwo lnaeoenl— rape, three attempted rapes, and two indecent assaults . the two indecent assaults. the aauenlen— two indecent assaults. the aauanlen ol— two indecent assaults. the daughter of one of his victims nae— daughter of one of his victims nae unlea— daughter of one of his victims nae urged nln— daughter of one of his victims has urged him to— daughter of one of his victims has urged him to give his cash to has urged him to give his cash lo anally— has urged him to give his cash lo enanlly .— has urged him to give his cash lo enanlly . luel— has urged him to give his cash to charity , just as— has urged him to give his cash to charity , just as her late to charity, just as her late nolnen— to charity, just as her late mother did— to charity, just as her late mother did with the damages that he mother did with the damages that ne wae— mother did with the damages that ne lonel— mother did with the damages that he was forced to— mother did with the damages that he was forced to pay her. so no doubt— he was forced to pay her. so no doubt you— he was forced to pay her. so no doubt you will— he was forced to pay her. so no doubt you will all— he was forced to pay her. so no doubt you will all have strong lewe— doubt you will all have strong views on this. _ doubt you will all have strong views on this. gb— doubt you will all have strong views on this. gb views at gb wewe. — views on this. gb views at gb wewe. .uk.— views on this. gb views at gb news. .uk. this— views on this. gb views at gb news. .uk. this is— views on this. gb views at gb news. .uk. this is a guy who eenwea— news. .uk. this is a guy who eenwea eo— news. .uk. this is a guy who served 30 years— news. .uk. this is a guy who served 30 years for rape and a wanlely— served 30 years for rape and a wanlely ol— served 30 years for rape and a variety of other— served 30 years for rape and a variety of other different eeaually— variety of other different sexually based crimes as well. on sexually based crimes as well. en-neleaee— sexually based crimes as well. on release bought a lottery on day release bought a lottery llolel— on day release bought a lottery ticket,-millions_ on day release bought a lottery ticket, millions and now is ticket, won millions and now is appanenlly— ticket, won millions and now is apparently allowed that apparently allowed to keep that oey — apparently allowed to keep that money-ne-le- apparently allowed to keep that. money. _me-is women's money. joining me now is women's nonle— money. joining me now is women's none-lany— money. joining me now is women's rights patsy stevenson. rights activist patsy stevenson. paley.— rights activist patsy stevenson. naley. weal—

rights activist patsy stevenson. patsy, great-chat— rights activist patsy stevenson. patsy, great chat to you. patsy, great to chat to you. snoula— patsy, great to chat to you. should i keep _ patsy, great to chat to you. should keep the . money should he keep the. money i mean, no , i think it's mean, no, i think it's appalling,- mean, no, i think it's appalling, isn't it? mean, no, i think it's appalling, isn't it ? mean, no, i think it's- appalling, isn't it? can you bellowe— appalling, isn't it? can you believe someone like he's done these crimes and then he's won seven, 7 million? i think, to be noneel.— seven, 7 million? i think, to be noneel. lnene— seven, 7 million? i think, to be honest, there needs— seven, 7 million? i think, to be honest, there needs to- g“ l�* ll l::»7 i think, to be honest, there needs to be g“ l�* ll 7 i think, to be honest, there needs to be rules aouna— honest, there needs to be rules aounl wno— honest, there needs to be rules around who can— honest, there needs to be rules around who can get a lottery llelel— around who can get a lottery llolel ln— around who can get a lottery ticket in the— around who can get a lottery ticket in the first— around who can get a lottery ticket in the first place. and i lnlnl— ticket in the first place. and i lnlnl ll— ticket in the first place. and i lnlnl ll you— ticket in the first place. and i think if you win— ticket in the first place. and i think if you win that amount of oey— think if you win that amount of noey you— think if you win that amount of noey you luel— think if you win that amount of money, you just shouldn't be alle— money, you just shouldn't be able lo— money, you just shouldn't be able to have— money, you just shouldn't be able to have it.— money, you just shouldn't be able to have it. if you're in pnleon— able to have it. if you're in pnleon lon— able to have it. if you're in prison for those— able to have it. if you're in prison for those type of offence— prison for those type of offences . _ prison for those type of offences . the- prison for those type of offences . lg e offences. the thing is, it's obvious us that it is completely disgusting that this guy is now going to get £7 million or however much it is. and anyone can see that. but the problem is really quickly, what do we do about it? i mean, you've just said there well, anyone said there that, well, anyone who to a lottery who goes to buy a lottery ticket, they have to check the sex register. do they? sex offenders register. do they? it tricky one that it is a tricky one in that regard, isn't it? it is , yeah. regard, isn't it? it is, yeah. i mean, i think it's just one of woe— i mean, i think it's just one of lnoee lnlnee— i mean, i think it's just one of those things that— i mean, i think it's just one of those things that i mean, he appealed.— those things that i mean, he appealed, didn't— those things that i mean, he appealed, didn't so he he appealed, didn't he? so he he appealed— appealed, didn't he? so he he appealed-nave— appealed, didn't he? so he he appealed have money. appealed to have that money. i oon-l— appealed to have that money. i oon-l know— appealed to have that money. i oon-l lnow wny— appealed to have that money. i don't know why he won that. i

non-l— don't know why he won that. i uon-l know— don't know why he won that. i don't know who _ don't know why he won that. i don't know who gave- don't know why he won that. i don't know who gave that. - don't know why he won that. e d you don't know who gave that. you know , that you know, you- e d you know , that you know, you can you know, that you know, you can you nave— know, that you know, you can you nave lnal— know, that you know, you can you can have that seven— know, that you know, you can you can have that seven and i don't know— can have that seven and i don't know wno— can have that seven and i don't know wno eave— can have that seven and i don't know who gave that order. i lnlnl— know who gave that order. i think that's— know who gave that order. i think that's ridiculous. llg» know who gave that order. i think that's ridiculous. ll::» think that's ridiculous. do you lnlnl— think that's ridiculous. do you lnlnl anon— think that's ridiculous. do you think then that— think that's ridiculous. do you think then that realistically we should live in a world where anyone who's gone to prison for, you know , horrific sexual crimes you know, horrific sexual crimes should what really be banned from ever receiving any kind of financial windfall? i mean, where would that stop if they were the son of a of a multi—millionaire, for example , multi—millionaire, for example, you know, should they be banned from getting their inheritance? yes, i think what it is, because a lot of the like lotto winning the lottery comes from like tax payers, doesn't it? or comes from payers, doesn't it? or comes non people— payers, doesn't it? or comes from people that. - : e 7 or comes from people that. rollin payers, doesn't it? or comes from people that. well, yeah. so from people that. well, yeah. so n— from people that. well, yeah. so ll lepenle— from people that. well, yeah. so it depends, you— from people that. rollin so it depends, you know, where it so it depends, you know, where n oee— so it depends, you know, where it comes from. _ so it depends, you know, where it comes from. there's a lot of context— it comes from. there's a lot of context around— it comes from. there's a lot of context around it,— it comes from. there's a lot of context around it, but i think i would— context around it, but i think i would le— context around it, but i think i would be l— context around it, but i think i would be i just— context around it, but i think i would be i just i— context around it, but i think i would be i just i can't imagine wnal— would be i just i can't imagine wnal lne— would be i just i can't imagine what the victims— would be i just i can't imagine what the victims families are going— what the victims families are going annual.— what the victims families are going annouan. — what the victims families are going through. "g what the victims families are going through. i think that's appalling to see. it's a random occurrence as well. you know,

this occurrence as well. you know, we lnle— occurrence as well. you know, this this isn't— occurrence as well. you know, this this isn't an— you know, this this isn't an everyday lnlna— this this isn't an everyday lnlne lnal— this this isn't an everyday thing that happens. ”lgfleq this this isn't an everyday thing that happens. ”lgfleeyp »:l:g» thing that happens. i really do lnlnl— thing that happens. i really do think there should be some regulation in place where if you have committed a severe sex offence , you shouldn't be offence, you shouldn't be allowed to win £7 million. that i imagine that there— allowed to win £7 million. that i imagine that there could- : g“ t? l�* ll cl“ that i imagine that there could be a way— i imagine that there could be a way on— i imagine that there could be a way on poeelply— i imagine that there could be a way or possibly should be a way of actually— way or possibly should be a way of actually saying— way or possibly should be a way of actually saying if you are in pnleon— of actually saying if you are in pnleon lon— of actually saying if you are in pnleon lon a— of actually saying if you are in prison for a, you— of actually saying if you are in prison for a, you know, a catalogue— prison for a, you know, a catalogue of— prison for a, you know, a catalogue of different offences, say,— catalogue of different offences, eay. eay— catalogue of different offences, eay. eay nnunena— catalogue of different offences, say, say murder, paedophilia, ....,_ say, say murder, paedophilia, nape. ol— say, say murder, paedophilia, rape, some of that kind of packet— rape, some of that kind of lnaelel ol— rape, some of that kind of bracket of offences, then then you— bracket of offences, then then you enoula— bracket of offences, then then you enoull le— bracket of offences, then then you should be banned from , from you should be banned from, from winning— you should be banned from, from winning lne— you should be banned from, from winning the lottery— you should be banned from, from winning the lottery . you should be banned from, from winning the lottery. e you should be banned from, from winning the lottery. g you should be banned from, from winning the lottery. e winning the lottery. it is a neally— winning the lottery. it is a neally tough— winning the lottery. it is a really tough one. it's a mixed bag on this. i'm just going to put a couple of emails to you if that's all right. look gary's been on. gary says if he won it legally much annoys me, legally as much as it annoys me, then got to keep it. then he's got to keep it. but then he's got to keep it. but then here's another here, then here's another one here, and i just want to make sure i get it is from get this one right. it is from john says got to give john who says he's got to give this to charity. so it's two men who've got in touch on this. but john got give this john says he's got to give this to charity. i know to money charity. i know that the were the victim's family were

desperate for him to it to desperate for him to give it to charity . this guy presumably has charity. this guy presumably has a very questionable or no moral compass whatsoever, given the nature of his offences . i mean, nature of his offences. i mean, do you have any hope all that do you have any hope at all that he the right thing and he might do the right thing and give a rape? give this money to a rape? survivors charity? i mean, he's probably to be probably not going to, but to be honest, charity really honest, does the charity really want from him? ithink want money from him? i think that's you know,— want money from him? i think that's you know, it— want money from him? i think that's you know, it does- g“ 7 ithink that's you know, it does feel a bit that's you know, it does feel a ll alepuellna— that's you know, it does feel a bit disgusting cheating. but wnal— bit disgusting cheating. but whatlwould_ bit disgusting cheating. but what would that person that what i would that person that llle— what i would that person that llle. on.— what i would that person that was like, oh, he— what i would that person that was like, oh, he legally won it. yean.— was like, oh, he legally won it. yean lul— was like, oh, he legally won it. yean lul ne— was like, oh, he legally won it. yeah, but he broke— was like, oh, he legally won it. yeah, but he broke the law. so wnaw— yeah, but he broke the law. so wnaw we-ne— yeah, but he broke the law. so what? we're supposed to uphold yeah, but he broke the law. so whélaw,e're supposed to uphold yeah, but he broke the law. so whélaw,e're he)posed to uphold yeah, but he broke the law. so whélaw,e're he caned to uphold yeah, but he broke the law. so whélaw,e're he can jusli uphold yeah, but he broke the law. so whélaw,e're he can just breakld the law, but he can just break we— the law, but he can just break we law— the law, but he can just break the law where— the law, but he can just break the law where likes it, the law where he likes it, loeen-l— the law where he likes it, doesn't make _ the law where he likes it, doesn't make any sense. patsy, look.— doesn't make any sense. patsy, loan-you— doesn't make any sense. patsy, loan-you weny— doesn't make any sense. patsy, look, you very much. look, thank you very much. great you. patsy great to chat to you. patsy sleweneon — great to chat to you. patsy stevenson there, a great to chat to you. patsy- stevenson there,-a women's stevenson there, who's a women's nonle— stevenson there, who's a women's none—a— stevenson there, who's a women's nlenle—a weny- rights activist. it's a very enanae—lli rights activist. it's a very- ewanae—ll lunpea strange topic that and it jumped out—nonnlne- strange topic that and it jumped out morning because out to me this morning because it out to me this morning because ll-lnlnllne. — out to me this morning because it-thinking. .really- it got me thinking. it really llna— it got me thinking. it really kind confronted kind of confronted me. i was llle— kind of confronted me. i was llle-le— kind of confronted me. i was llle-le a- kind of confronted me. i was llle-le a guy- kind of confronted me. i wasi like,-is a guy who's like, well, this is a guy who's lone— like, well, this is a guy who's done unspeakable harms to people.— done unspeakable harms to people. eenwel— done unspeakable harms to people, served a whopping great done unspeakable harms to peo prison rved a whopping great done unspeakable harms to peo prison sentence lopping great done unspeakable harms to peo prison sentence and ng great done unspeakable harms to peo prison sentence and clearlyt big prison sentence and clearly is big prison sentence and clearly le-nepulelwe.— big prison sentence and clearly is-repulsive, very- is pretty repulsive, very nepulelwe— is pretty repulsive, very repulsive as— is pretty repulsive, very repulsive as a- is pretty repulsive, very repulsive as a man. but then nee— repulsive as a man. but then ne-e walled— repulsive as a man. but then he's walked into— repulsive as a man. but then he's walked into a corner shop ana— he's walked into a corner shop and louanl— he's walked into a corner shop and louenl a— he's walked into a corner shop and bought a lottery ticket and nee— and bought a lottery ticket and ne-e on— and bought a lottery ticket and ne-e el— and bought a lottery ticket and he's won £7 million. do you pollee— he's won £7 million. do you pollee wale— he's won £7 million. do you police that? i— he's won £7 million. do you police that? i don't know. get youn— police that? i don't know. get youn-conne—

police that? i don't know. get your-coming in.- your views coming in. vaiews@gbnews.uk do you think that vaiews@gbnews.uk do you think lnal-enoula— vaiews@gbnews.uk do you think that-should be- vaiews@gbnews.uk do you think that should be allowed that that guy should be allowed to that that guy should be allowed lo—lne— that that guy should be allowed lo—lne moneye- that that guy should be allowed to_the money? he| to actually keep the money? he nae— to actually keep the money? he nae been— to actually keep the money? he has been allowed?— to actually keep the money? he has been allowed? he has been allowed.— has been allowed? he has been allowed. so— has been allowed? he has been allowed. so it— has been allowed? he has been allowed. so it just— has been allowed? he has been allowed. so it just feels awful, anouan—n- allowed. so it just feels awful, though,_|t feels- though, doesn't it? it feels aleolulely— though, doesn't it? it feels absolutely-i've- though, doesn't it? it feels absolutely i've still got absolutely awful. i've still got loade— loads coming your way between now-spoo— loads coming your way between now-5:00,-hear- loads coming your way betweeni now-5:00,-hear from now and 5:00, we will hear from a-ye..— now and 5:00, we will hear from a-yee lnal-e— now and 5:00, we will hear from a-yes, that's right.- now and 5:00, we will hear from a yes, that's right. the a man. yes, that's right. the naneen-l— a man. yes, that's right. the man been convicted of man who's been convicted of lnnowlne—lnei man who's been convicted of. throwing—the king. throwing five eggs at the king. is throwing five eggs at the king. le ne— throwing five eggs at the king. is he repentant?_ throwing five eggs at the king. is he repentant? not a bit of it. is he repentant? not a bit of n. we— is he repentant? not a bit of it. the absolute— is he repentant? not a bit of it. the absolute state of that. ana— it. the absolute state of that. one yel— it. the absolute state of that. and keir starmer— it. the absolute state of that. and keir starmer is being onllleleea— and keir starmer is being criticised for— and keir starmer is being criticised for why he got up to wnen— criticised for why he got up to wnen-neal— criticised for why he got up to when-head of- criticised for why he got up to when-head of the- criticised for why he got up to when head of the crown when he was head of the crown nnoeeoullon— when he was head of the crown prosecution _yes, - when he was head of the crown prosecution yes, you prosecution service. yes, you won-l— prosecution service. yes, you won-nnll-ee— prosecution service. yes, you won't-miss that. - prosecution service. yes, you won't miss that. but won't want to miss that. but llnel— won't want to miss that. but llnel ll-e— won't want to miss that. but first it's your— won't want to miss that. but first it's your headlines. we're lolly—.— first it's your headlines. we're lolly—. - first it's your headlines. we're polly_. patrick,| polly middlehurst. patrick, lnanl— polly middlehurst. patrick, thank you. — polly middlehurst. patrick, thank you. well, let's bring you some breaking news that we've heard about in the last half houn heard about in the last half hour. you will have heard it if you're listening to patrick's show, members voted show, unison members have voted to offer aimed to accept a pay offer aimed at resolving nhs dispute. the resolving the nhs dispute. the union says almost three quarters of its members back the deal, offering a pay rise this year offering a 5% pay rise this year and a cash payment for last yeah and a cash payment for last year. the royal college of nursing is due to announce results of its ballot later ,

results of its ballot later, after the government says unison's decision shows that the fair and reasonable proposal can bnng fair and reasonable proposal can bring an end to this dispute. the mother and a father have been found guilty of the murder of their baby son on christmas day. stephen boden and shannon marsden in flicted repeated acts of severe violence on their ten month old baby boy, finley , 71 month old baby boy, finley, 71 bruises and 57 fractures were found on his body. finley had only been placed back in their care for 39 days before he was killed , despite social workers killed, despite social workers asking for a longer transition penod asking for a longer transition period and two serving met police officers have been dismissed over discriminatory messages they sent to colleagues in a whatsapp group, including some about katie price's disabled son, harvey . a gross disabled son, harvey. a gross misconduct hearing also found that another six former officers would have been dismissed without notice if they'd still been serving and speaking on behalf of the force commander john saville apologised to the price family, saying he was repulsed and ashamed . the us

repulsed and ashamed. the us president has returned to his irish ancestral roots, arriving in county mayo . it's the final in county mayo. it's the final day of his four day trip to ireland, which the former taoiseach, enda kenny said was the longest presidential visit ever to ireland . president biden ever to ireland. president biden is expected to make a private visit to the mayo roscommon hospice that is dedicated to his son, beau, who died of brain cancer in 2015. on tv , online, cancer in 2015. on tv, online, dab+ radio and on the tune in app. this is gb news, britain's news . news. channel ah well, 23 news. channel- . ah well, 23 year old channel— - ah well, 23 year old student ah well, 23 year old student patrick . ah well, 23 year old student patrick thelwell— - ah well, 23 year old student patrick thelwell-foundl patrick thelwell has been found gully— patrick thelwell has been found gully ol— patrick thelwell has been found guilty of threatening behaviour anen—lo— guilty of threatening behaviour anen—lo egg- guilty of threatening behaviour after—to egg the. guilty of threatening behaviour after to egg the king after attempting to egg the king last november— after attempting to egg the king last november .— after attempting to egg the king last november. the judge eenleneea— last november. the judge sentenced thelwell to a 12 month eonnunlly— sentenced thelwell to a 12 month community order— sentenced thelwell to a 12 month community order with 100 hours

of unpala— community order with 100 hours on unpala pala— community order with 100 hours of unpaid paid work. he also onaenea— of unpaid paid work. he also onaenea ane— of unpaid paid work. he also ordered the defendant, of unpaid paid work. he also ordered the defendant , who of unpaid paid work. he also ordered the defendant, who said lnal— ordered the defendant, who said lnal ne— ordered the defendant, who said lnal ne nae— ordered the defendant, who said that he had now— ordered the defendant, who said that he had now given up his elualee— that he had now given up his elualee lo— that he had now given up his elualee lo pay— that he had now given up his studies to pay £600 court costs ana— studies to pay £600 court costs and neo— studies to pay £600 court costs and £140 surcharge at a rate of £5 pen— and £140 surcharge at a rate of no pen weel. — and £140 surcharge at a rate of no pen week. on— and £140 surcharge at a rate of £5 per week. gb news is yonlenlne— £5 per week. gb news is yorkshire and— £5 per week. gb news is yorkshire and humber reporter anna— yorkshire and humber reporter anna lolley— yorkshire and humber reporter anna riley was— yorkshire and humber reporter anna riley was in court for this case. patrick— anna riley was in court for this case. patrick thelwell- anna riley was in court for this case. »t

perfectly justified because of the historic wrongs. i'm just going— the historic wrongs. i'm just going lo— the historic wrongs. i'm just going lo neeap— the historic wrongs. i'm just going to recap exactly what he was sentenced _ going to recap exactly what he was sentenced to. _ going to recap exactly what he was sentenced to. that was lanol— was sentenced to. that was patrick thelwell— was sentenced to. that was patrick thelwell to a 12 month eonnunlly— patrick thelwell to a 12 month community order— patrick thelwell to a 12 month community order with 100 hours of unpala— community order with 100 hours on unpala wow.— community order with 100 hours of unpaid work. he— community order with 100 hours of unpaid work. he also ordered the defendants— of unpaid work. he also ordered the defendants who said that he had the defendants who said that he naa no— the defendants who said that he naa elven— the defendants who said that he had now given up— the defendants who said that he had now given up his studies to pay had now given up his studies to pay eooe— had now given up his studies to pay leoo eoun— had now given up his studies to pay £600 court costs and £114 eunenanae— pay £600 court costs and £114 eunenanae al— pay £600 court costs and £114 eunenanae al a— pay £600 court costs and £114 surcharge at a rate of £5 a week . anyway.— surcharge at a rate of £5 a week . anyway. anene— surcharge at a rate of £5 a week . anyway, there we— surcharge at a rate of £5 a week . anyway, there we go . so you . anyway, there we go. so you could— . anyway, there we go. so you could eay— . anyway, there we go. so you could say that— . anyway, there we go. so you could say that it's— . anyway, there we go. so you could say that it's been an lnleneellne— could say that it's been an interesting week for king cnanlee— interesting week for king charles, but— interesting week for king charles, but he was on safer enouna— charles, but he was on safer ground loaay. — charles, but he was on safer ground today. he's been at the loyal— ground today. he's been at the loyal llllllany— ground today. he's been at the royal military academy at sananunel— royal military academy at sandhurst to— royal military academy at sandhurst to review officer eaaele— sandhurst to review officer oaaele .— sandhurst to review officer oaaele . n— sandhurst to review officer cadets . it comes a couple of cadets. it comes a couple of laye— cadets. it comes a couple of aaye ee— cadets. it comes a couple of aaye n— cadets. it comes a couple of days since it was— cadets. it comes a couple of days since it was confirmed that nnlnee — days since it was confirmed that nnlnee nanny— days since it was confirmed that prince harry will— days since it was confirmed that prince harry will attend his fallen-e— prince harry will attend his father's coronation. meghan father's coronation. but meghan won-l— father's coronation. but meghan won-l le— father's coronation. but meghan won-l pe joining— father's coronation. but meghan won't be joining him . at least won't be joining him. at least weenan— won't be joining him. at least meghan coulo— won't be joining him. at least meghan could have been there on may— meghan could have been there on way we— meghan could have been there on way we ell.— meghan could have been there on way lne ell. lul— meghan could have been there on may the 6th, but it's emerged n-e— may the 6th, but it's emerged now. it's emerged that prince ananew-e— now. it's emerged that prince andrew's former— now. it's emerged that prince andrew's former wife, sarah leneueon— andrew's former wife, sarah ferguson, wasn't even invited . ferguson, wasn't even invited. snall— ferguson, wasn't even invited. snall we— ferguson, wasn't even invited. shall we take— ferguson, wasn't even invited. shall we take a— ferguson, wasn't even invited. shall we take a little look paell— shall we take a little look paele l— shall we take a little look back? i think— shall we take a little look back? i think we should. i think it'd back? i think we should. i think no le— back? i think we should. i think no le nude— back? i think we should. i think it'd be rude to— back? i think we should. i think it'd be rude to not— back? i think we should. i think it'd be rude to not at fergie's llle— it'd be rude to not at fergie's llle. negle— it'd be rude to not at fergie's life. fergie, this— it'd be rude to not at fergie's life. fergie, this is your life. ana— life. fergie, this is your life. one ll-e— life. fergie, this is your life. one ll-e eae— life. fergie, this is your life. and it's sad to— life. fergie, this is your life. and it's sad to say that she's been— and it's sad to say that she's been-ol— and it's sad to say that she's been .oflcolourful- been a bit of a colourful olanaelen— been a bit of a colourful- character. _ prince

character. she married prince ananew— character. she married prince ananew ln— character. she married prince andrew in 1986— character. she married prince andrew in 1986 in a wedding that was andrew in 1986 in a wedding that walenea— andrew in 1986 in a wedding that walenea ly— andrew in 1986 in a wedding that was watched by an— andrew in 1986 in a wedding that was watched by an estimated 50 nllllon— was watched by an estimated 50 nllllon people— was watched by an estimated 50 million people around the world. but million people around the world. out eally— million people around the world. nul eaaly. lney— million people around the world. but sadly, they separated in lem— but sadly, they separated in lean ana— but sadly, they separated in 1992 and later— but sadly, they separated in 1992 and later that year , she 1992 and later that year, she was photographed having her toes euelel— was photographed having her toes euelel ly— was photographed having her toes sucked by american businessman john— sucked by american businessman yonn nnyan— sucked by american businessman yonn nnyan ln— sucked by american businessman john bryan in images that are, let-e— john bryan in images that are, lea-e le— john bryan in images that are, let's be honest— john bryan in images that are, let's be honest with you, very nana — let's be honest with you, very nana lo — let's be honest with you, very hard to forget.— let's be honest with you, very hard to forget. in— let's be honest with you, very hard to forget. in 2010, she was eauenl— hard to forget. in 2010, she was eaupnl up— hard to forget. in 2010, she was eaupnl up ln— hard to forget. in 2010, she was eaupnl up ln a— hard to forget. in 2010, she was caught up in a scandal after ollenlna— caught up in a scandal after ollenlna an— caught up in a scandal after offering an undercover reporter access-in return- offering an undercover reporter access in return for access to andrew in return for nan— access to andrew in return for nall ll— access to andrew in return for half £1 million.— access to andrew in return for half £1 million. and then in zen.— half £1 million. and then in zen. lunley— half £1 million. and then in 2012, turkey issued i've nonponen— 2012, turkey issued i've forgotten about this one, an international— forgotten about this one, an international arrest warrant anen— international arrest warrant anen negle— international arrest warrant after fergie filmed a tv documentary- after fergie filmed a tv documentary in the country a few yeane— documentary in the country a few yeane eanllen— documentary in the country a few years earlier. so— documentary in the country a few years earlier. so there we go. wnal— years earlier. so there we go. wnal ao— years earlier. so there we go. wnal do you— years earlier. so there we go. what do you make of that? ladies and gentlemen?— what do you make of that? ladies and gentlemen? meghan isn't the only— and gentlemen? meghan isn't the only one— and gentlemen? meghan isn't the only nleelna— and gentlemen? meghan isn't the only one missing out on the oononanon — only one missing out on the coronation. .least- only one missing out on the coronation. least that was coronation. at least that was by enolee. — coronation. at least that was by enolee. _nenale- coronation. at least that was by choice. _fergie will. choice. apparently, fergie will be anenalna— choice. apparently, fergie will be attending a— choice. apparently, fergie will be attending a do on in be attending a do later on in we— be attending a do later on in we ewenlnp— be attending a do later on in the evening,-is- be attending a do later on in the evening,-is a- be attending a do later on in the evening, is a private the evening, which is a private occasion. _getting- occasion. so she's getting a more _experience,i more intimate experience, isn't enee— more intimate experience, isn't enee-lnene— more intimate experience, isn't she?-there.are.- more intimate experience, isn't she? there are. right. she? but there we are. right. play. — she? but there we are. right. play. _to- she? but there we are. right. okay-lo ael- she? but there we are. right. okay. _to ask you. she? but there we are. right.- okay.-to ask you now, okay. i'm going to ask you now, lallee— okay. i'm going to ask you now, ladies—personal. okay. i'm going to ask you now, ladies-do-personal. okay. i'm going to ask you now, ladies do you personal okay. i'm going to ask you now, ladies do you smell?)nal okay. i'm going to ask you now, ladies do you smell? no, i'm question. do you smell? no, i'm not lelne— question. do you smell? no, i'm nol being nude.— question. do you smell? no, i'm not being rude. there are fears lnal— not being rude. there are fears lnal lole— not being rude. there are fears lnal lole ol— not being rude. there are fears that lots of brits— not being rude. there are fears

that lots of brits have stopped uelne— that lots of brits have stopped using deodorant— that lots of brits have stopped using deodorant and i'm going to tell using deodorant and i'm going to lell you— using deodorant and i'm going to lell you wny. — using deodorant and i'm going to lell you wny. ln— using deodorant and i'm going to tell you why. i'm patrick cnnlelye— tell you why. i'm patrick ennlelye on— tell you why. i'm patrick christys on gb- tell you why. i'm patrick christys on gb news britain's

channel yes. i channel- yes. welcome |cnannel- yes. welcome back, |cnannel— yes. welcome back, everybody. loon— yes. welcome back, everybody. lool. w-wee— yes. welcome back, everybody. look, we've covered quite a lot in look, we've covered quite a lot ln alle— look, we've covered quite a lot ln lnle enow— look, we've covered quite a lot in this show so— look, we've covered quite a lot in this show so far.— look, we've covered quite a lot in this show so far. it's one yean— in this show so far. it's one yean on— in this show so far. it's one yean on non — in this show so far. it's one year on from the- in this show so far. it's one year on from the rwanda plan being— year on from the rwanda plan being announced. no planes taking— being announced. no planes lallne onl— being announced. no planes lallnp on yet. — being announced. no planes taking off yet. no people aeponea— taking off yet. no people aeponea lo— taking off yet. no people deported to rwanda as of yet. i epole— deported to rwanda as of yet. i epole lo— deported to rwanda as of yet. i epole lo a— deported to rwanda as of yet. i epole lo a elap— deported to rwanda as of yet. i spoke to a chap who's in rwanda . nee— spoke to a chap who's in rwanda . we a— spoke to a chap who's in rwanda . he's a political— spoke to a chap who's in rwanda . he's a political analyst in yleall. — . he's a political analyst in yleall. _thatl kigali. he was saying that rwanda.— kigali. he was saying that rwanda, they're rwanda, as far as they're concerned, has- rwanda, as far as they're concerned, has ready and concerned, has been ready and walllna— concerned, has been ready and walllnallale— concerned, has been ready and waiting take these people, waiting to take these people, oenalnly— waiting to take these people, certainly ready— waiting to take these people, certainly ready and waiting to tale—wnen- take the money which we have elven— take the money which we have elven-lage- take the money which we have given-large chunk. take the money which we have given large chunk and given them in a large chunk and are-annoyed-ourl are just quite annoyed that our internat— are just quite annoyed that our own internal politics appears to be stopping— own internal politics appears to be stopping us— own internal politics appears to be stopping us from actually sending— be stopping us from actually sending anyone— be stopping us from actually sending anyone rwanda . i also sending anyone to rwanda. i also spoke— sending anyone to rwanda. i also spoke to— sending anyone to rwanda. i also spoke to a— sending anyone to rwanda. i also spoke to a former— sending anyone to rwanda. i also spoke to a former australian mp australia,— spoke to a former australian mp aueereue, we — spoke to a former australian mp australia, we all— spoke to a former australian mp australia, we all sorted australia, we all know sorted out— australia, we all know sorted out their— australia, we all know sorted out their illegal— out their illegal migrant problem,— out their illegal migrant problem, they? and he out their illegal migrant- problem,-they? and he was problem, didn't they? and he was basically— problem, didn't they? and he was beefieeuy saying,— problem, didn't they? and he was basically saying, look , if you basically saying, look, if you implement— basically saying, look, if you implement a— basically saying, look, if you implement a policy and policy implement a policy and a policy that— implement a policy and a policy that involves— implement a policy and a policy that involves smashing the people—

that involves smashing the people model, people smugglers business model, i.e. people smugglers business model, eeeueuy— people smugglers business model, i.e. actually towing _ people smugglers business model, i.e. actually towing boats back pp...— i.e. actually towing boats back pp... ence— i.e. actually towing boats back pp... p— i.e. actually towing boats back then, once it works, whichever party— then, once it works, whichever peppy comes— then, once it works, whichever peppy p..— then, once it works, whichever party comes in next won't p.— party comes in next won't reverse it. and— party comes in next won't reverse it. and i can't help but evened— reverse it. and i can't help but wonder whether— reverse it. and i can't help but wonder whether or— reverse it. and i can't help but wonder whether or not rishi speak— wonder whether or not rishi sunak should— wonder whether or not rishi sunak should start doing that. new. — sunak should start doing that. new. clearly— sunak should start doing that. now. clearly just— sunak should start doing that. now. clearly just the thought of people— now. clearly just the thought of people-sene— now. clearly just the thought of people sent rwanda is people being sent to rwanda is not l deterrent. _ people being sent to rwanda is not deterrent. why because not a deterrent. why because we're scheduled— not a deterrent. why because we're scheduled to have yet another— we're scheduled to have yet another-peer- we're scheduled to have yet another-year in- we're scheduled to have yet another year in the another record year in the champ,— another record year in the channel, aren't- another record year in the channel, aren't that's channel, aren't we? that's spewing— channel, aren't we? that's showing-signs- channel, aren't we? that's showing signs of stopping at showing no signs of stopping at all. showing no signs of stopping at app-p...— showing no signs of stopping at all.-the notion- showing no signs of stopping at all. the notion that you all. so just the notion that you might— all. so just the notion that you mpgpp_w.ppng- all. so just the notion that you. might_waking.in might find yourself waking up in rwanda—nee- rwanda one day is not a deterrent— rwanda one day is not a deterrent people. if deterrent for people. if he stepped— deterrent for people. if he started _the - deterrent for people. if he started the boats back deterrent for people. if he- stanifi-the boats back deterrent for people. if he stanif i'm the boats back deterrent for people. if he stanif i'm just the boats back deterrent for people. if he stanif i'm just being oats back and if i'm just being hypothetical here, and if the pope— hypothetical here, and if the boats-coming - hypothetical here, and if the boats-coming ,- hypothetical here, and if the boats-coming , ii hypothetical here, and if the. boats-coming , i bet boats then stop coming, i bet you— boats then stop coming, i bet you |— boats then stop coming, i bet you i bet— boats then stop coming, i bet you p bet you— boats then stop coming, i bet you i bet you £50— boats then stop coming, i bet you i bet you £50 that labour popp— you i bet you £50 that labour wewe ww— you i bet you £50 that labour would not then— you i bet you £50 that labour would not then reverse that policy— would not then reverse that policylthev_ would not then reverse that policy .they won - would not then reverse that policy they won the next policy if they won the next general— policy if they won the next general election. but and general election. but by far and away— general election. but by far and away-biggest— general election. but by far and away biggest interaction away the biggest interaction wwe— away the biggest interaction i've-my— away the biggest interaction i've-my epox- away the biggest interaction i've my inbox far i've had in my inbox so far wew— i've had in my inbox so far today .views. - i've had in my inbox so far today views. gbnews.uk was today. gb views. gbnews.uk was about— today. gb views. gbnews.uk was about we— today. gb views. gbnews.uk was about this kind— today. gb views. gbnews.uk was about this kind of— today. gb views. gbnews.uk was about this kind of morbidly fascinating— about this kind of morbidly fascinating story we were netting— fascinating story we were talking about— fascinating story we were talking about earlier on a rapist— talking about earlier on a rapist whe— talking about earlier on a rapist who served 30 years in prison— rapist who served 30 years in prison ter— rapist who served 30 years in prison for rape— rapist who served 30 years in prison for rape and a variety of ether— prison for rape and a variety of other eee— prison for rape and a variety of other sex offences— prison for rape and a variety of other sex offences went out on day— other sex offences went out on day eeeeet— other sex offences went out on day release, bought a lottery ticket— day release, bought a lottery ticket wen— day release, bought a lottery ticket, won £7— day release, bought a lottery ticket, won £7 million and has teen— ticket, won £7 million and has now been told— ticket, won £7 million and has

now been told that he can keep that— now been told that he can keep tnot money— now been told that he can keep that money. and— now been told that he can keep that money. and i— now been told that he can keep that money. and i was asking you wnetnet— that money. and i was asking you wnetnet ot— that money. and i was asking you whether or not— that money. and i was asking you whether or not you— that money. and i was asking you whether or not you think that tnot-e— whether or not you think that tnot-e okay— whether or not you think that tnot-e otow .— whether or not you think that that's okay . andrew says, no, that's okay. andrew says, no, i ton-t— that's okay. andrew says, no, i ton-t tntnt— that's okay. andrew says, no, i don't think he _ that's okay. andrew says, no, i don't think he should get it. not— don't think he should get it. nut-tne— don't think he should get it. but-the point,- don't think he should get it. but the point, who's but more to the point, who's teen— but more to the point, who's been nowing— but more to the point, who's been holding on— but more to the point, who's been holding on to this money ont— been holding on to this money ant-interest- been holding on to this money and-interest over. and has it got interest over the teet— and has it got interest over the toot—wow- and has it got interest over thei toot—wow wnot, last few years? i tell you what, tnte— last few years? i tell you what, tntelo— last few years? i tell you what, this-a cracking— last few years? i tell you what, this a cracking point. this this is a cracking point. this oetwottw— this is a cracking point. this oetwottw-toe— this is a cracking point. this actually joe says, this is a cracking point. this- actually .joe-says, why actually from joe who says, why woewoe- tne - actually from joe who says, why was-was the rapist. was this? why was the rapist ottowet— allowed out on day release? and tnot— allowed out on day release? and mot-te— allowed out on day release? and tnot-telgoot- allowed out on day release? and that-islgood point,- that actually is a good point, ten-t— that actually is a good point, tent-woe— that actually is a good point, isn't-was this- that actually is a good point, isn't was this guy even isn't it? why was this guy even twen— isn't it? why was this guy even given me— isn't it? why was this guy even given the opportunity, motty to go given the opportunity, motty to 9°_a_ given the opportunity, motty to eo—o tottew- given the opportunity, motty to go a lottery ticket go out and buy a lottery ticket ont— go out and buy a lottery ticket and-presumably- go out and buy a lottery ticket. and-presumably-can and then presumably now he can spent—me— and then presumably now he can spent—me towe- spend the rest of his days twing— spend the rest of his days living-absolute- spend the rest of his days living absolute luxury? living in absolute luxury? i tntnt— living in absolute luxury? i tntnt tt— living in absolute luxury? i think it sticks— living in absolute luxury? i think it sticks in the craw, toeen-t— think it sticks in the craw, doesn't-of— think it sticks in the craw, doesn't of anyone is doesn't it? of anyone who is a sermon— doesn't it? of anyone who is a survivor, anyone _ doesn't it? of anyone who is a survivor, anyone who's been a victim — survivor, anyone who's been a victim .anything_ survivor, anyone who's been a victim anything this. survivor, anyone who's been a victim are nything this. survivor, anyone who's been a victim are in:hing this. survivor, anyone who's been a victim are in prison this. survivor, anyone who's been a victim are in prison forthis. people are in prison for tweeting— people are in prison for- breaking—keith. people are in prison for- breaking_keith. we breaking the law, says keith. we won— breaking the law, says keith. we wten-otewet— breaking the law, says keith. we wish-obeyed the - breaking the law, says keith. we wish obeyed the law. wish they obeyed the law. he tegottw— wish they obeyed the law. he legally-ticket,- wish they obeyed the law. he legally ticket, though, wish they obeyed the law. he lega by ticket, though, wish they obeyed the law. he lega by legal ticket, though, wish they obeyed the law. he lega by legal processet, though, wish they obeyed the law. he lega by legal process he though, wish they obeyed the law. he lega by legal process he won. |h, wish they obeyed the law. he lega by legal process he won. it and by legal process he won. it toes— and by legal process he won. it toes-nut— and by legal process he won. it toes-nut tne— and by legal process he won. it does but the money his does great. but the money is his to spent— does great. but the money is his to epentlne— does great. but the money is his to spend he pleases . and to spend as he pleases. and tnot-e— to spend as he pleases. and that's-other— to spend as he pleases. and that's-other side- to spend as he pleases. and that's other side of that's the other side of it, kenn— that's the other side of it, kenn-ite— that's the other side of it, keith,-it?-your. that's the other side of it,- keith,-it?-your views keith, isn't it? get your views continuing— keith, isn't it? get your views continuing-come- keith, isn't it? get your views continuing come in. but back continuing to come in. but back to—teoowee- to politics now, because a nepon— to politics now, because a report claims— to politics now, because a report claims labour leader to politics now, because a rep keirlaims labour leader to politics now, because a rep keir starmer labour leader to politics now, because a rep keir starmer billed ur leader sir keir starmer billed toxpowen— sir keir starmer billed taxpayers almost a quarter taxpayers for almost a quarter of taxpayers for almost a quarter ot p.— taxpayers for almost a quarter of £1 million— taxpayers for almost a quarter of £1 million in— taxpayers for almost a quarter of £1 million in travel costs wnttet— of £1 million in travel costs wnttet ne— of £1 million in travel costs whilst he was— of £1 million in travel costs whilst he was director of public ttoeeowttone— whilst he was director of public prosecutions .— whilst he was director of public prosecutions . now, according to prosecutions. now, according to nepone— prosecutions. now, according to tepotte ston— prosecutions. now, according to reports, star mcclain, almost

twee— reports, star mcclain, almost tntee ttmee— reports, star mcclain, almost three times as— reports, star mcclain, almost three times as much as his successor , alison saunders, successor, alison saunders, tnotwttne— successor, alison saunders, including first— successor, alison saunders, including first class flights ont— including first class flights and o— including first class flights and a chauffeur driven car charging— and a chauffeur driven car enotptnp yout— and a chauffeur driven car charging you, the taxpayer, a wnopptnp— charging you, the taxpayer, a wnopptng met,— charging you, the taxpayer, a whopping £161, 273 for the car ont— whopping £161, 273 for the car and enven— whopping £161, 273 for the car and driver. that's— whopping £161, 273 for the car and driver. that's alone. so tnot-e— and driver. that's alone. so tnot-e teet— and driver. that's alone. so tnot-e twet o— and driver. that's alone. so that's just a car— and driver. that's alone. so that's just a car and driver. twen— that's just a car and driver. twen tnowpn— that's just a car and driver. even though he— that's just a car and driver. even though he lived just a few mttee— even though he lived just a few mttee owew— even though he lived just a few miles away from _ even though he lived just a few miles away from the office. joining— miles away from the office. joining me— miles away from the office. joining me now— miles away from the office. joining me now is media campaign moment— joining me now is media campaign monoetp ot— joining me now is media campaign monoetp at me— joining me now is media campaign manager at the taxpayers atttonee — manager at the taxpayers alliance is— manager at the taxpayers alliance is conor holohan. conon— alliance is conor holohan. conor, thank— alliance is conor holohan. conor, thank you very much. i've got to— conor, thank you very much. i've got to te— conor, thank you very much. i've got to be honest— conor, thank you very much. i've got to be honest with you, i tntnt— got to be honest with you, i tntnt tnte— got to be honest with you, i think this absolute think this is an absolute ontoge— think this is an absolute outrage and— think this is an absolute outrage and potentially exposes sir outrage and potentially exposes sit-sterner— outrage and potentially exposes sir-starmer as— outrage and potentially exposes sir starmer as being sir keir starmer as being eomewnot— sir keir starmer as being somewhat-a- sir keir starmer as being somewhat a champagne somewhat of a champagne eootottet— somewhat of a champagne socialist-can- somewhat of a champagne socialist. can the possible socialist. what can the possible twettttottton— socialist. what can the possible justification be _ socialist. what can the possible justification be for— socialist. what can the possible justification be for quarter of £1 justification be for quarter of tt-tetne— justification be for quarter of £1-being spent- justification be for quarter of £1 being spent on a £1 million being spent on a moment— £1 million being spent on a chauffeur driven car an chauffeur driven car to an otttoe— chauffeur driven car to an office that— chauffeur driven car to an office that-live- chauffeur driven car to an office that live a chauffeur driven car to an- office that-live a-miles office that you live a few miles owew— office that you live a few miles away-business— office that you live a few miles away business class flights away and business class flights ? away and business class flights twen— away and business class flights pint, tnont— away and business class flights ? well, thank you— away and business class flights ? well, thank you for having me on. ? well, thank you for having me patriot.— ? well, thank you for having me on. patrick. yeah,— ? well, thank you for having me on. patrick. yeah, i— ? well, thank you for having me on. patrick. yeah, i think a lot of on. patrick. yeah, i think a lot ot we— on. patrick. yeah, i think a lot of us were surprised by these nwmemt .— of us were surprised by these numbers. i think— of us were surprised by these numbers. i think particularly on the numbers. i think particularly on me toot— numbers. i think particularly on me toot tnot— numbers. i think particularly on the fact that sir— numbers. i think particularly on the fact that sir keir starmer woe-me— the fact that sir keir starmer was the taxpayer for was charging the taxpayer for his was charging the taxpayer for nip-commute— was charging the taxpayer for his-commutelthe- was charging the taxpayer for his commute the office. his own commute to the office. i ton-t— his own commute to the office. i ton-t know— his own commute to the office. i don't know about— his own commute to the office. i don't know about patrick, don't know about you, patrick, tut—own- don't know about you, patrick,| but—own commute don't know about you, patrick,- but_own commute to but i pay for my own commute to the but i pay for my own commute to tne- — but i pay for my own commute to tne- ant— but i pay for my own commute to tne- ant-most-

the office. and i think most people in public sector people in the public sector should expected to do so as should be expected to do so as well. so yeah, i think this snowe— well. so yeah, i think this shows- shown . well. so yeah, i think this- shows-shown across shows and we've shown across the putte— shows and we've shown across the pwttte eeonto— shows and we've shown across the pwttte eeonto tt-e— shows and we've shown across the public sector, it's not— shows and we've shown across the public sector, it's not just witn— public sector, it's not just with-starmer,- public sector, it's not just with starmer, we've with sir keir starmer, we've seen-went - with sir keir starmer, we've seen rishi sunak, for seen it with rishi sunak, for mtone— seen it with rishi sunak, for instance,-the- seen it with rishi sunak, for instance, the taxpayer instance, billing the taxpayer for instance, billing the taxpayer tot nett— instance, billing the taxpayer tot nott et— instance, billing the taxpayer for half £1 million for a couple of for half £1 million for a couple ot pnwote— for half £1 million for a couple ot pnwote tet— for half £1 million for a couple of private jet flights over the course of just— of private jet flights over the course of just a— of private jet flights over the course of just a week. so it's not— course of just a week. so it's not-totown— course of just a week. so it's not-labour, it's- course of just a week. so it's not labour, it's across the not just labour, it's across the pwttto— public sector. there's a addiction— public sector. there's a addiction luxury . public sector. there's a addiction luxury. 't: addiction to luxury. and unfortunately, it's the rest of us to for us that are having to pay for it. do you think that there is tint— it. do you think that there is some kind of— c do you think that there is some kind of mental compulsion , some kind of mental compulsion, p...— some kind of mental compulsion, p... witn— some kind of mental compulsion, p... wttn peopte— some kind of mental compulsion, ian, with people in— some kind of mental compulsion, ian, with people in public eeotto— ian, with people in public eto tote— ian, with people in public sector jobs in— ian, with people in public sector jobs in general, that if tnew— sector jobs in general, that if tnew one— sector jobs in general, that if tnew tott— sector jobs in general, that if they are told that you can bill they are told that you can bill tne taxpayer— they are told that you can bill the taxpayer for— they are told that you can bill the taxpayer for something, they just the taxpayer for something, they test to — the taxpayer for something, they test to it— the taxpayer for something, they twet to it to — the taxpayer for something, they just do it to excess— the taxpayer for something, they just do it to excess because its— just do it to excess because its tite— just do it to excess because its ttte o— just do it to excess because it's like a faceless i'm not going— it's like a faceless i'm not gotng to— it's like a faceless i'm not gotng to say— it's like a faceless i'm not going to say crime because it's not— going to say crime because it's not o— going to say crime because it's not o nme— going to say crime because it's not a crime, although it otpwottw— not a crime, although it arguably should be at this rate. but arguably should be at this rate. not its— arguably should be at this rate. not its tite— arguably should be at this rate. but it's like a— arguably should be at this rate. but it's like a faceless thing. they— but it's like a faceless thing. tnew-ootwottw- but it's like a faceless thing. they actually see the they don't actually see the peon— person they're taking their money— person they're taking their money-ton-t- person they're taking their. money-don't realise person they're taking their morgrand don't realise person they're taking their morgrand total don't realise person they're taking their morgrand total ofon't realise person they're taking their morgrand total of damageise the grand total of damage ttnonotottw— the grand total of damage financially-are- the grand total of damage financially. are doing to financially. they are doing to tne— financially. they are doing to two eowntw— financially. they are doing to tie eowntw tw— financially. they are doing to this country by like keir stormen — this country by like keir starmer. .i-tol this country by like keir- starmer.-i-to have starmer. oh, i need to have a moment— starmer. oh, i need to have a chauffeur driven— starmer. oh, i need to have a chauffeur driven car because twe— chauffeur driven car because he got— chauffeur driven car because he got wew— chauffeur driven car because i've got very important documents— i've got very important documents with me. buy your own

car, documents with me. buy your own toot— documents with me. buy your own toot tne— documents with me. buy your own car, lock the doors,— documents with me. buy your own car, lock the doors, drive woweett— car, lock the doors, drive woweett to— car, lock the doors, drive yourself to work like a normal peon— yourself to work like a normal peon .— yourself to work like a normal peeon . wett— yourself to work like a normal person . well, i— yourself to work like a normal person . well, i think you know, person. well, i think you know, wnen— person. well, i think you know, wnen wow— person. well, i think you know, wnen you ont— person. well, i think you know, wnen you end .— person. well, i think you know, when you and i go— person. well, i think you know, when you and i go on holiday or we we're travelling— when you and i go on holiday or we we're travelling somewhere , we we're travelling somewhere, we we're travelling somewhere, we mtent— we we're travelling somewhere, we mtgnt toot— we we're travelling somewhere, we might look for— we we're travelling somewhere, we might look for a good value optom— we might look for a good value optton ,— we might look for a good value option , something which is good option, something which is good for option, something which is good tot tne— option, something which is good tot tne-t— option, something which is good for the-i think- option, something which is good for the-i think too- for the wallet. i think too often— for the wallet. i think too otten tn— for the wallet. i think too often in the— for the wallet. i think too often in the public sector teoowee— often in the public sector because there _ often in the public sector because there is that disconnect,- disconnect, people aren't tntnttnp— disconnect, people aren't- thinking—represents thinking about what represents wette— thinking about what represents wotwelwnot— thinking about what represents value what represents the value or what represents the toweet— value or what represents the toweet-tne - value or what represents the lowest the taxpayer. lowest cost to the taxpayer. them— lowest cost to the taxpayer. mew-eee— lowest cost to the taxpayer. mew-see eo- lowest cost to the taxpayer. they,-see so often- lowest cost to the taxpayer. they,-see so often ,- lowest cost to the taxpayer. i they,-see so often , we they, as we see so often, we revealed in january the revealed back in january the department for international trade has spent £600,000 on flights over the course of a couple of months. there were luxury tttpnte. — couple of months. there were luxury flights. .weren't. luxury flights. they weren't the tnew— luxury flights. they weren't the mew-tne — luxury flights. they weren't the they-the _optionsl luxury flights. they weren't thei they-the _options , they weren't the value options, t hey— they weren't the value options, tnew—eneopeet- they weren't the cheapest opttone. — they weren't the cheapest opttone. _too- they weren't the cheapest options. _too in options. so yeah, too often in tne— options. so yeah, too often in tne-sector— options. so yeah, too often in tne-eeotot ,— options. so yeah, too often in the-sector , the - options. so yeah, too often in the sector , the luxury is the public sector, the luxury is no epenee te— the public sector, the luxury is no expense is spared and we're the no expense is spared and we're tne ones— no expense is spared and we're the ones picking— no expense is spared and we're the ones picking up the tab. so went.— the ones picking up the tab. so went. .— the ones picking up the tab. so peon t test— the ones picking up the tab. so yeah, i just think— the ones picking up the tab. so yeah, i just think it's- yeah, i just think it's absolutely staggering and i don't see what the possible justification can be, especially business class flights. look, i don't know about you, connor. maybe fortunate maybe you have been fortunate enough on enough in your life to hop on and go business class. is it? what they say to people who and go business class. is it? wha' left they say to people who and go business class. is it? wha' left on y say to people who and go business class. is it? wha' left on a say to people who and go business class. is it? wha'left on a plane people who and go business class. is it? wha' left on a plane or ople who turn left on a plane or something? i think the fact that i'm even sure of that, it

i'm not even sure of that, it probably sums where my probably sums up where my personal been out personal finances have been out for but there for many years. but there we go . for that's the . and for me, that's the ridiculous thing does he ridiculous thing of it. does he have in a business class have to go in a business class trip, you know, and then i was looking what of he looking at what kind of job he was doing to warrant was actually doing to warrant that basic that expenditure. his basic salary a and salary was 200 grand a year. and then you're racking quarter then you're racking up quarter of £1 million in expenses as well. sorry , but i mean, i well. i'm sorry, but i mean, i would have expected at least, you know, certain notorious tax offenders to have been jailed for that. and for longer for that. and i think, you know, like you said at the at the top of the piece, you know, i think one of the most important things about this to is sir keir to note is that sir keir starmer's billed the starmer's predecessor billed the taxpayer only of taxpayer for only a third of what taxpayer. so what he billed the taxpayer. so it's that no expense was it's clear that no expense was spared. know, spared. and i think, you know, should get into should keir starmer get into number 10 downing street after the election, let's see the next election, let's see if he'll his where his he'll put his money where his mouth put an end to these mouth is and put an end to these these sorts excesses. these sorts of excesses. all right, you very right, connor, thank you very much holohan there, who much. conor holohan there, who is media manager at is the media campaign manager at the taxpayers alliance, reacting to starmer expenditure. to keir starmer expenditure. thank you very much . very quick

thank you very much. very quick off the draw here from colin, who's emailed in to say patrick, of would of course, keir starmer would turn plane , wouldn't turn left on the plane, wouldn't he? there we go. now as the he? but there we go. now as the price deodorant soars and price of deodorant soars and many of us are hit by the cost of living, is britain of living, crisis is britain going through a pandemic ? that's going through a pandemic? that's right. many best sellers are accosting this is deodorant are costing £5 for a can. and some shoppers have vowed to go without. but do we even need to wear deodorant ? there are wear deodorant? there are massive concerns. i'm telling you . i'm massive concerns. i'm telling you. i'm telling you massive concerns. i'm telling you . i'm telling you massive you. i'm telling you massive concerns that people are going to around just stinking the to walk around just stinking the gaff. with me now is dating gaff. out with me now is dating coach because nadia coach nadia essex because nadia , i wanted know, do some , i wanted to know, do some women like a little bit of a whiff ? no no. we like nadia. whiff? no no. we like nadia. i'll see you next time . yeah. i'll see you next time. yeah. no, no, sorry . so you don't no, no, sorry. so you don't think you don't know ? we like. think you don't know? we like. you know, there— think you don't know? we like. you know, there is— act" c , we like. you know, there is nothing nicer tnon— you know, there is nothing nicer mm o— you know, there is nothing nicer mm o mee— you know, there is nothing nicer than a nice smelling man or .— than a nice smelling man or . know.— than a nice smelling man or woman. i know. when i was. i've got— woman. i know. when i was. i've got twee— woman. i know. when i was. i've got tntee wett— woman. i know. when i was. i've got three year old, _ woman. i know. when i was. i've got three year old, and when i

pregnant,— got three year old, and when i pregnant, .— got three year old, and when i was pregnant, i was on the tube otwtowetw— was pregnant, i was on the tube otwtowetw tutt— was pregnant, i was on the tube obviously full of— was pregnant, i was on the tube obviously full of the hormones and. — obviously full of the hormones and. ant— obviously full of the hormones and. ant t— obviously full of the hormones ont. ant t guy— obviously full of the hormones and. t: g : obviously full of the hormones and. g and. and a guy walked past me wearing the most sublime aftershave , and i absolutely aftershave, and i absolutely hand on my heart would have married him in an instant if he'd asked me because i was captivated by how good he smelled. and actually a smell in dating can take your number to up a whole number. so if you're if you're averaging— up a whole number. so if you're if you're averaging like- c. so if you're if you're averaging like an etgnt— if you're averaging like an etpnt witn— if you're averaging like an etpnt mm o— if you're averaging like an eight with a good smell , if you're averaging like an eight with a good smell, you can go eight with a good smell, you can 90 up— eight with a good smell, you can go up to— eight with a good smell, you can go up to o— eight with a good smell, you can go up to o ntne— eight with a good smell, you can go up to a nine. that's how tmpottont— go up to a nine. that's how important smell— go up to a nine. that's how important smell is . o" go up to a nine. that's how important smell is. o" 3 i important smell is. oh, gosh. i tnot— important smell is. oh, gosh. i met to— important smell is. o" 3 i mean, that is staggering. so of all mean, that is staggering. so of at ot— mean, that is staggering. so of at ot tne— mean, that is staggering. so of all of the impacts— mean, that is staggering. so of all of the impacts of the cost of all of the impacts of the cost ot living— all of the impacts of the cost of living crisis— all of the impacts of the cost of living crisis now, you think peopte— of living crisis now, you think people shouldn't— of living crisis now, you think people shouldn't compromise when it comes— people shouldn't compromise when it comes-deodorant— people shouldn't compromise when it comes deodorant ? \t:::t o" people shouldn't compromise when it comes deodorant? ktzt on it comes to deodorant? no. oh my post. — it comes to deodorant? no. oh my post. .— it comes to deodorant? no. oh my post. ttwet— it comes to deodorant? no. oh my post. t twet tne— it comes to deodorant? no. oh my gosh. i just the there— it comes to deodorant? no. oh my gosh. i just the there i- it comes to deodorant? kt; o" g i just the there i get gosh. i just the there i get tite— gosh. i just the there i get ttte .— gosh. i just the there i get ttte t teet— gosh. i just the there i get like i read the— g i just the there i get like i read the piece and i was tite— like i read the piece and i was ttte, otow— like i read the piece and i was ttte, otow vou— like i read the piece and i was like, okay, you know, i get like the like, okay, you know, i get like tne ewn— like, okay, you know, i get like the skin microbes— like, okay, you know, i get like the skin microbes and all that eon— the skin microbes and all that not ot— the skin microbes and all that not ot stutt— the skin microbes and all that sort of stuff. and— the skin microbes and all that sort of stuff. and we are pwtttnp— sort of stuff. and we are putting loads- sort of stuff. and we are putting loads of like, potions ont— putting loads of like, potions and mines— putting loads of like, potions and things on— putting loads of like, potions and things on our skin that ptotottw— and things on our skin that probably isn't— and things on our skin that probably isn't the best for the environment,— probably isn't the best for the environment, isn't best for our ewn— environment, isn't best for our ettn tut— environment, isn't best for our skin, but ultimate—

environment, isn't best for our skin, but ultimate albie they're like skin, but ultimate albie they're ttte o— skin, but ultimate albie they're ttte o no— skin, but ultimate albie they're ttte o tto te— skin, but ultimate albie they're like a bio is a— skin, but ultimate albie they're like a bio is a deal breaker. tt-e— like a bio is a deal breaker. to one— like a bio is a deal breaker. tt-e ot— like a bio is a deal breaker. it's one of the— like a bio is a deal breaker. it's one of the number- like a bio is a deal breaker. it's one of the number one deal breakers in dating because it's just complete , highly just complete, highly unpleasant, especially when it goes up your nose and it starts burning your nose hairs. that is a deal breaker. so yeah, if you if you want to be successful in dating good teeth and deodorant , well, well, there you go. but can i just say, though,- git but can i just say, though, do you not— can i just say, though, do you not tntnt— can i just say, though, do you not think that— can i just say, though, do you not think that this may be otteote— not think that this may be affects more— not think that this may be affects more of— not think that this may be affects more of those people who tetwottw— affects more of those people who actually-already— affects more of those people who actually - already in - affects more of those people who actually already in a long actually are already in a long term— actually are already in a long term relationship, who may stop twine— term relationship, who may stop twtnt ,— term relationship, who may stop twtno , maybe— term relationship, who may stop twtno , maybe ,— term relationship, who may stop trying, maybe , but but like term relationship, who may stop trying , maybe , but but like the trying, maybe, but but like the study— trying, maybe, but but like the study ,— trying, maybe, but but like the study , tne— trying, maybe, but but like the etwtw , tne owwe— trying, maybe, but but like the study , the guys that are doing study, the guys that are doing tne— study, the guys that are doing two to— study, the guys that are doing two to wett— study, the guys that are doing this as well have— study, the guys that are doing this as well have all said that tnew— this as well have all said that tnew not— this as well have all said that tnew not to— this as well have all said that they had to give— this as well have all said that they had to give their body time to get— they had to give their body time to get teet— they had to give their body time to get met to— they had to give their body time to get used to it. _ they had to give their body time to get used to it. so after the initial like pongyi period, then they stopped sort of smelling as much and why would you want to be around someone for a length of time who is just stinking to high heaven ? i'm just i mean, high heaven? i'm just i mean, i've i've had lots of businesses in my time. i've been managers

for in my time. i've been managers tot tote— in my time. i've been managers tot tote ant,— in my time. i've been managers for lots and, you— in my time. i've been managers for lots and, you know,- " c i've been managers for lots and, you know, body otow— for lots and, you know, body otow noe— for lots and, you know, body odour has been— for lots and, you know, body odour has been a- for lots and, you know, body odour has been a huge thing that you odour has been a huge thing that won oon— odour has been a huge thing that you get— odour has been a huge thing that you can get called— odour has been a huge thing that you can get called for. in and you,— you can get called for. in and wow, wow— you can get called for. in and you, you mow,— you can get called for. in and you, you know, you have meetings witn— you, you know, you have meetings wttn wt— you, you know, you have meetings with hr departments because it's that unpleasant— with hr departments because it's that unpleasant and distracting wnen—to- that unpleasant and distracting wnen—tolwowl when you're trying to do your wont. — when you're trying to do your wont. .wetm— when you're trying to do your wont. mean. to - when you're trying to do your work. .yeah, to go- when you're trying to do your work. gilt?" gt g " work. so yeah, to go through that period, think if that pongyi period, i think if you to save a couple of you want to save a couple of quid you maybe cut down quid, you know, maybe cut down on starbucks , not the on the starbucks, not the deodorant. yeah . look, i'm deodorant. yeah. look, i'm inclined to agree you. inclined to agree with you. really i think is just really i do think it is just unbelievable , unpleasant for unbelievable, unpleasant for people. and hate as summer people. and i hate it as summer is fast approaching, i cannot help but already . already help but already. already practically right at the back of my throat. get the whiff of that person who gets on you at the tube or train. and you know, tube or the train. and you know, when hanging to on when you're all hanging to on the the arm the overhead things and the arm goes just, oh, no , goes up and you just, oh, no, no, please, no. for the love of god height like , that's god hit height like, that's where i hover around people's arms and boob height . and so arms and boob height. and so i literally get the— arms and boob height. and so i literally get the full— m: g and so i literally get the full brunt of peopte-e— literally get the full brunt of peopte-e tite— literally get the full brunt of people's like really , really people's like really, really teen— people's like really, really been to— people's like really, really been to the— people's like really, really been to the gym or been at work all been to the gym or been at work at tow.— been to the gym or been at work at day- atmptt. — been to the gym or been at work all day. armpit. it's— been to the gym or been at work all day. armpit. c mtg all day. armpit. it's very, wow.— all day. armpit. it's very,

very. wew— all day. armpit. it's very, very, very unpleasant. i carry perfume in my bag and i do often have to do like a slight side spritz. okay, just just very tasty,— spritz. okay, just just very lastly, nadia,— spritz. okay, just just very lastly, nadia, i— okay, just just very lastly, nadia, i mean, in nadia teeex— lastly, nadia, i mean, in nadia teeex te— lastly, nadia, i mean, in nadia essex is britain.— lastly, nadia, i mean, in nadia essex is britain. do people who stint— essex is britain. do people who ettnt get— essex is britain. do people who stink get banned— essex is britain. do people who stink get banned from public ttonepott— stink get banned from public ttonepott ot— stink get banned from public transport or leaving the house? no, transport or leaving the house? we. not— transport or leaving the house? we. tut inst— transport or leaving the house? we. put just gwe— transport or leaving the house? no, but just give them- transport or leaving the house? no, butjust give them give- transport or leaving the house? no, but just give them give them deodorant. i'll happily spend . deodorant. i'll happily spend. yeah. 11999 and get down to tesco's and get you a you know a shower. okay. men's deodorant and you know have it on me. i'm happy to provide it. there you go. wooin— happy to provide it. there you go. nadia, thank you very much. nadia essex there, who is, of course, a dating coach reacting to that bombshell report, bombshell fewer people bombshell that now fewer people are buying deodorant, apparently. could up apparently. and we could end up becoming absolute , becoming a nation of absolute, complete stinkers complete and utter stinkers because deodorant is getting so expensive. people are saying that going up around £5 that it's going up to around £5 a can for the cheapest deodorant. michelle has been in touch, though, with a very good point who's just said patrick, there's a place called the pound shop and yeah michelle i think that maybe blows that whole thing the water. got

thing out of the water. i've got to be honest with you. throughout the cost of living crisis, think if i was crisis, i think if i was choosing between heating and eating, , eating, which is the shocker, isn't i think i'd be isn't it, i think i'd be inclined to eat if i was choosing eating and choosing between eating and being , smelly that being so obnoxious, smelly that people don't want to look at me or talk to me or come anywhere near everyone's talking near me and everyone's talking about back. think about me behind my back. i think i'd not eat, i'd be inclined to not eat, which is maybe be maybe my solution losing of solution to losing a bit of weight. those you who've been weight. those of you who've been getting your getting in touch with your thoughts and thoughts gbviews@gbnews.uk and the story that we're touching on earlier is proving to be a massive, massive topic in the inbox, which is about this guy who was released from prison. he was been in prison for 30 years. he done for rape and a he was done for rape and a variety of different other sexual offences was sexual based offences was allowed out day release, allowed out on day release, which controversial which is proving controversial in itself. bought a lottery ticket, won £7 million and is now been to keep the now been allowed to keep the money. question by the way, money. the question by the way, for those of you getting in touch, you're going, why doesn't he do the decent thing give he do the decent thing and give it lucky we're it to charity? well, lucky we're deaung it to charity? well, lucky we're dealing he's dealing with it. okay. so he's not going the right not really going to do the right thing, he? and they're saying thing, is he? and they're saying that basically, patrick, he

should been allowed should never have been allowed out is the out on day release. that is the crux matter. but like crux of this matter. but like gary, says that actually crux of this matter. but like gary, patrick, ys that actually crux of this matter. but like gary, patrick, he :hat actually crux of this matter. but like gary, patrick, he :hat buyially crux of this matter. but like gary, patrick, he :hat buy it.y crux of this matter. but like gary, patrick, he :hat buy it. he look, patrick, he did buy it. he did buy the ticket. it was legal. he was legally out on day release. his. release. and the money is his. so go. got to go so there we go. i've got to go into couple of the other into a couple of the other stories now that have come in about rwanda, because that's stories now that have come in aboutsorry�*ida, because that's stories now that have come in aboutsorry�*ida, i'miuse that's stories now that have come in aboutsorry�*ida, i'm goingiat's stories now that have come in aboutsorry�*ida, i'm going to s stories now that have come in aboutsorry�*ida, i'm going to be what sorry that i'm going to be going top of the next going in at the top of the next hour it is one year on hour with. it is one year on since announced that we were since we announced that we were doing rwanda doing a deal with rwanda last yean doing a deal with rwanda last year, 46,000 year, around 46,000 people crossed illegally. year, around 46,000 people crossis illegally. year, around 46,000 people crossis obviously illegally. year, around 46,000 people crossis obviously despite ally. year, around 46,000 people crossis obviously despite usy. that is obviously despite us saying that we're going to deport no people deport you to rwanda. no people have to rwanda and have been deported to rwanda and there that there is no sign of that happening. any time soon. so the latest that latest polling data shows that around 50% of are in around 50% of people are in favour of it. so they're not morally opposed to the rwanda plan. morally plan. they're not morally opposed people, but opposed to deporting people, but they don't think it's going they just don't think it's going to happen. clearly , given to happen. and clearly, given that we've already had nearly 40,000 people already this year across channel, it would across the channel, it would appean across the channel, it would appear, that they appear, wouldn't it, that they don't think anything's going to happen them either. i was happen to them either. i was asking you whether not you asking you whether or not you think see a plane think you'll ever see a plane take the ground. paul

take off the ground. and paul has patrick, has been on paul, says patrick, we not see a flight take we will not see a flight take off as we are in the off as long as we are in the echr . we've to get out and echr. we've got to get out and get it now. and sharon get out of it now. and sharon says, are an says, patrick, we are an absolute joke these people absolute joke. these people smugglers and the people coming across the are all across the channel are all laughing us. it's funny you laughing at us. it's funny you should get should say that because i get the impression the the strong impression that the people in rwanda are people in power in rwanda are actually us the actually laughing at us at the moment given them moment because we've given them £120 million to do well , £120 million to do well, renovate a couple of hotels essentially, and build a couple of new and as yet we have of new sites. and as yet we have not them a single not actually sent them a single asylum seeker or refugee . your asylum seeker or refugee. your views coming in throughout the course of this show? i've got an action packed coming your action packed hour coming your way. be having action packed hour coming your way debate be having action packed hour coming your waydebate as be having action packed hour coming your waydebate as well, be having action packed hour coming your waydebate as well, be ijustig action packed hour coming your waydebate as well, be ijust on big debate as well, not just on rwanda, also when it comes rwanda, but also when it comes to our nhs. as i just want to tease we do have some tease ahead, we do have some breaking news you on that breaking news for you on that and strike action. and it involves strike action. i will best best will tell you the best as best i can i come back. patrick can when i come back. patrick christys on gb news, christys here on gb news, britain's news .

channel welcome along, everybody. it's patrick christys here on gb news. it'sjust patrick christys here on gb news. it's just about to go 5 pm, which means i'm with you p.m, which means i'm with you for the next hour. i've got a huge amount coming your way, so strap yourselves in. and we of course, start with breaking news. that's right. it has just been announced that the royal college their college of nursing union, their members have voted to reject the college of nursing union, their meroffer have voted to reject the college of nursing union, their mer offer so ve voted to reject the college of nursing union, their meroffer so they ted to reject the college of nursing union, their meroffer so they willto reject the college of nursing union, their meroffer so they will be eject the pay offer so they will be striking from april, the 30th for 48 hours from, um, 8 am. what do you make of that? that's the big one. unison the other union there, of course, did vote to actually accept it. so the royal college of nursing, they to actually accept it. so the royalsaid ege of nursing, they to actually accept it. so the royalsaid noe of nursing, they to actually accept it. so the royalsaid no inf nursing, they to actually accept it. so the royalsaid no in othering, they to actually accept it. so the royalsaid no in other news,iey have said no in other news, rwanda, it's exactly one year on, isn't it, since we announced the rwanda plan. and as yet, nobody has been sent to rwanda , nobody has been sent to rwanda, and that has cost us £120 million. the public apparently still just about support the scheme, but actually don't think it will happen. where are you on that? want in other that? i want to know. in other news. eggman. that's right

news. yes, eggman. that's right . lovely chap here who . this lovely chap here who i imagine parents very imagine his parents are very proud him and decided to lob proud of him and decided to lob five our king. and he five eggs at our king. and he was found guilty of a public order court today. order offence after court today. he jail, so he did avoid jail, though. so there go . and finally well there we go. and finally as well , bins. yes. how do you feel about this recycled thing? bit of a nightmare at the best of times. how do you about times. how do you feel about the idea you might be about to idea that you might be about to have seven recycling bins, seven? i not joking . and i seven? i am not joking. and i do. yes, i do think they are all going to be made of plastic. all that coming way. and much that coming our way. and much more . here yeah , more more right. here yeah, more coming in now on that big breaking news that the rcn union, they have said that their members have voted to reject the pay members have voted to reject the pay offer. so nurses will strike. there on the 30th of april for 48 hours. i'll bring you more detail on that as and when i get it. now though, as your headlines with polly .

your headlines with polly. patrick thank you and good evening— patrick thank you and good ewentng to— patrick thank you and good evening to you. _ t thank you and good evening to you. the top story on gb evening to you. the top story on on wewe— evening to you. the top story on on news today,— evening to you. the top story on gb news today, as— evening to you. the top story on gb news today, as you've been netting,— gb news today, as you've been hearing, nurses— gb news today, as you've been hearing, nurses will stage onotnet— hearing, nurses will stage another round— hearing, nurses will stage another round of strikes from 8 pm.— another round of strikes from 8 pm. on— another round of strikes from 8 pm. on apti— another round of strikes from 8 pm. on april 30th— another round of strikes from 8 pm. on april 30th for 48 hours, tcw— p.m. on april 30th for 48 hours, tcw nemes— pm. on april 30th for 48 hours, rcn nurses rejected the government's- rcn nurses rejected the government's offer aimed at teeotwng— government's offer aimed at resolving the— government's offer aimed at resolving the nhs pay dispute. the resolving the nhs pay dispute. tne etntee— resolving the nhs pay dispute. the strikes come— resolving the nhs pay dispute. the strikes come after 54% of royal— the strikes come after 54% of royal cottege— the strikes come after 54% of royal college of— the strikes come after 54% of royal college of nursing members voted— royal college of nursing members voted to— royal college of nursing members voted to net-ect— royal college of nursing members voted to reject an— royal college of nursing members voted to reject an offer of 5% pay— voted to reject an offer of 5% pow nee— voted to reject an offer of 5% pow tne— voted to reject an offer of 5% pay rise. this year- voted to reject an offer of 5% pay rise. this year and a cash payment— pay rise. this year and a cash payment tot— pay rise. this year and a cash payment for last— pay rise. this year and a cash payment for last year. the royal cottege — payment for last year. the royal cottege ot— payment for last year. the royal college of nursing— payment for last year. the royal college of nursing said the new etnte— college of nursing said the new etnte wit— college of nursing said the new strike will also— college of nursing said the new strike will also involve nursing etott— strike will also involve nursing etott wotttng— strike will also involve nursing staff working in— strike will also involve nursing staff working in emergency tepottmente.— staff working in emergency departments. intensive care unite,— departments. intensive care wntte, concen— departments. intensive care units, cancer care and other services— units, cancer care and other eewteee tnot— units, cancer care and other services that were previously exempt— services that were previously exempt .— services that were previously exempt . nut— services that were previously exempt . but paediatric nurse exempt. but paediatric nurse outta— exempt. but paediatric nurse olivia princewill— exempt. but paediatric nurse olivia princewill told us she tntnte— olivia princewill told us she tntnte tne— olivia princewill told us she thinks the government could have given— thinks the government could have given o— thinks the government could have gwen o tettet— thinks the government could have given a better offer— thinks the government could have given a better offer when junior doctors— given a better offer when junior doctors worked— given a better offer when junior doctors worked for— given a better offer when junior doctors worked for incredibly tong— doctors worked for incredibly tong nowe— doctors worked for incredibly tong nowe . — doctors worked for incredibly long hours. so— doctors worked for incredibly long hours . " long hours. so the nurses in conditions that are absolutely ridiculous to them come to work and be happy with the job. okay, that's not even safe for the patient. so what we're trying to do here, and i believe that's

what everyone is trying to achieve, is come to situation achieve, is come to a situation where a sort of where there is a sort of agreement between the us nurses, the doctors and also the the junior doctors and also the government to feel like when you're going to work, you're safe . meanwhile, civil servants safe. meanwhile, civil servants wit— safe. meanwhile, civil servants wttt noto— safe. meanwhile, civil servants will hold fresh _ meanwhile, civil servants will hold fresh strikes after tne— will hold fresh strikes after the government announced a pay rise the government announced a pay ot— the government announced a pay rise of between— the government announced a pay rise of between four and a half ont— rise of between four and a half and s.— rise of between four and a half and 5- tne— rise of between four and a half and 5. the unions— rise of between four and a half and 5. the unions general secretory— and 5. the unions general secretary describe it as meeting— secretary describe it as insulting and- secretary describe it as insulting and completely tnotegwote— insulting and completely inadequate .— insulting and completely inadequate . staff are due to inadequate. staff are due to wett— inadequate. staff are due to wott ott— inadequate. staff are due to wott out tn— inadequate. staff are due to walk out in may— inadequate. staff are due to walk out in may and june across government— walk out in may and june across government departments and in tite— government departments and in areas like the— government departments and in areas like the met— government departments and in areas like the met office . a areas like the met office. a motnet— areas like the met office. a motnet ont— areas like the met office. a mother and father have been townt— mother and father have been townt gwtttw— mother and father have been found guilty of— mother and father have been found guilty of murdering their betw— found guilty of murdering their totw eon— found guilty of murdering their totw on— found guilty of murdering their baby son on christmas day . baby son on christmas day. stepnen— baby son on christmas day. stephen boden_ baby son on christmas day. stephen boden and shannon monten— stephen boden and shannon marsden inflicted repeated acts of severe violence— marsden inflicted repeated acts of severe violence on their ten montn— of severe violence on their ten montn ott— of severe violence on their ten month old son.— of severe violence on their ten month old son. finlay. 71 women— month old son. finlay. 71 bruises and— month old son. finlay. 71 bruises and 57- month old son. finlay. 71 bruises and 57 fractures were townt— bruises and 57 fractures were townt on— bruises and 57 fractures were townt on me— bruises and 57 fractures were found on his body. finlay had onw— found on his body. finlay had ontw teen— found on his body. finlay had only been placed— found on his body. finlay had only been placed back in their tot— only been placed back in their tot pe— only been placed back in their care for 39 days— only been placed back in their care for 39 days before he was titted,— care for 39 days before he was killed, despite _ care for 39 days before he was killed, despite social workers toting— killed, despite social workers oettng tot— killed, despite social workers oettng tot o— killed, despite social workers asking for a longer transition period—

asking for a longer transition penot ,— asking for a longer transition penot , o— asking for a longer transition period , a child— asking for a longer transition period , a child safeguarding period, a child safeguarding noe— period, a child safeguarding review has now— period, a child safeguarding review has now been launched. detective— review has now been launched. detective inspector paul bullock pott— detective inspector paul bullock eott tne— detective inspector paul bullock said the injuries— detective inspector paul bullock said the injuries inflicted on ttntow— said the injuries inflicted on ttntow ewe— said the injuries inflicted on finlay were amongst the worst nee— finlay were amongst the worst he's seen . your— finlay were amongst the worst he's seen . egg/.p finlay were amongst the worst he's seen . vz/tft.” he's seen. your parent, you have no greater responsibility than to a child who is in your care. but boden and marsden could not even bring themselves to take poor finlay to hospital when it was totally clear that he was critically ill . they'd never critically ill. they'd never given a reasonable explanation as to why they did not do this. but it appears abundantly clear that their primary concern was their own freedom and not the life of finlay . two serving met life of finlay. two serving met pottee— life of finlay. two serving met police officers— life of finlay. two serving met police officers have— t �*tt; two serving met police officers have been dismissed— police officers have been dismissed over- police officers have been dismissed over discriminatory meegeetnew— dismissed over discriminatory messages they sent to colleagues in messages they sent to colleagues tn o— messages they sent to colleagues tn o wnoteapp— messages they sent to colleagues in a whatsapp group, including otowt— in a whatsapp group, including some about katie— in a whatsapp group, including some about katie price's ttetttet— some about katie price's disabled son,— some about katie price's disabled son, harvey. a gross mteeontwot— disabled son, harvey. a gross misconduct hearing also found onotnet— misconduct hearing also found onotnet etx— misconduct hearing also found another six former officers wowtt— another six former officers wowtt nowe— another six former officers would have been dismissed wttnowt— would have been dismissed without notice _ would have been dismissed without notice if they'd still teen— without notice if they'd still been sewing— without notice if they'd still been eentng .— without notice if they'd still been serving . speaking on behalf been serving. speaking on behalf of been serving. speaking on behalf ot tne— been serving. speaking on behalf ot tne tone— been serving. speaking on behalf of the force command , john of the force command, john smite— of the force command, john saville apologised to the price tomttw— saville apologised to the price tomttw eowtng— saville apologised to the price family, saying he— saville apologised to the price

family, saying he was repulsed ont— family, saying he was repulsed and ashamed.— family, saying he was repulsed and ashamed. now a student who tntew— and ashamed. now a student who tntew eggs— and ashamed. now a student who tntew egge ot— and ashamed. now a student who tntew egge ot tne— and ashamed. now a student who threw eggs at the king has been townt— threw eggs at the king has been townt gwtttw— threw eggs at the king has been townt gwtttw ot— threw eggs at the king has been found guilty of threatening tenowow— found guilty of threatening tenowow .— found guilty of threatening behaviour. the 23 year old totnot— behaviour. the 23 year old patrick thelwell threw at least twe— patrick thelwell threw at least five eggs— patrick thelwell threw at least five egge ot— patrick thelwell threw at least five eggs at the— patrick thelwell threw at least five eggs at the monarch during a five eggs at the monarch during twett— five eggs at the monarch during exist to— five eggs at the monarch during a visit to york— five eggs at the monarch during a visit to york minster in november— a visit to york minster in november last- a visit to york minster in november last year. he pleaded not gwtttw— november last year. he pleaded not guilty, arguing he acted in self—defence _ not guilty, arguing he acted in self—defence against the wotenoe— self—defence against the violence carried out by the written— violence carried out by the british state— violence carried out by the british state .— violence carried out by the british state . but the judge british state. but the judge eentenoet— british state. but the judge sentenced thelwell to a 12 month eommwnttw— sentenced thelwell to a 12 month community order— sentenced thelwell to a 12 month community order with 100 hours of community order with 100 hours ot wnpott— community order with 100 hours ot wnpott wont— community order with 100 hours of unpaid work to— community order with 100 hours of unpaid work to do . meanwhile, of unpaid work to do. meanwhile, the of unpaid work to do. meanwhile, tne ting— of unpaid work to do. meanwhile, tne ttng noe— of unpaid work to do. meanwhile, the king has been— of unpaid work to do. meanwhile, the king has been speaking of the king has been speaking of tne pnte— the king has been speaking of tne pnte ne— the king has been speaking of the pride he has— the king has been speaking of the pride he has felt about his two— the pride he has felt about his two eom— the pride he has felt about his two sons as he— the pride he has felt about his two sons as he observed military ottete— two sons as he observed military ottete ot— two sons as he observed military ottete ot tne— two sons as he observed military cadets at the sandhurst royal wttttow— cadets at the sandhurst royal military academy this afternoon . it military academy this afternoon . t we— military academy this afternoon . tt tne — military academy this afternoon . it was the monarch's first wett— . it was the monarch's first wet to— . it was the monarch's first wet to tne— . it was the monarch's first visit to the parade as king, and owing— visit to the parade as king, and twtng o— visit to the parade as king, and during a speech,— visit to the parade as king, and during a speech, he said he etoot— during a speech, he said he etoot oe— during a speech, he said he etoot oe o— during a speech, he said he stood as a father of two alumni of stood as a father of two alumni ot tne— stood as a father of two alumni of the academy— stood as a father of two alumni of the academy ,— stood as a father of two alumni of the academy , mentioning the of the academy, mentioning the pnte— of the academy, mentioning the immense pride the princes would be teettng. — immense pride the princes would be teettng. tne— immense pride the princes would be feeling. the king also ptoteet— be feeling. the king also ptoteet tne— be feeling. the king also praised the uk's role as a teottng— praised the uk's role as a leading nation— praised the uk's role as a leading nation in delivering ttotntng— leading nation in delivering ttotntng ,— leading nation in delivering training , equipment and advice training, equipment and advice

to untime— training, equipment and advice to ukraine on— training, equipment and advice to ukraine on the— training, equipment and advice to ukraine on the us. president joe ntten— to ukraine on the us. president joe biden noe— to ukraine on the us. president joe biden has returned to his onoeettot— joe biden has returned to his ancestral irish— joe biden has returned to his ancestral irish roots , arriving ancestral irish roots, arriving in ancestral irish roots, arriving tn county— ancestral irish roots, arriving tn cowntw wow.— ancestral irish roots, arriving in county mayo. it's the final day— in county mayo. it's the final tow ot— in county mayo. it's the final tow ot me— in county mayo. it's the final day of his four— in county mayo. it's the final day of his four day trip to ttetont— day of his four day trip to ireland, which— day of his four day trip to ireland, which the former tooteeoen— ireland, which the former taoiseach, enda kenny said was the taoiseach, enda kenny said was tne tongeet— taoiseach, enda kenny said was the longest presidential visit etteo— the longest presidential visit ever to ireland— the longest presidential visit ever to ireland .— the longest presidential visit ever to ireland . and president ever to ireland. and president ntten— ever to ireland. and president otten te— ever to ireland. and president biden is expected to make a private— biden is expected to make a pnwote wett— biden is expected to make a private visit to _ biden is expected to make a private visit to the mayo ross common— private visit to the mayo ross common hospice— private visit to the mayo ross common hospice that is dedicated to me— common hospice that is dedicated to me eon— common hospice that is dedicated to his son beau,— common hospice that is dedicated to his son beau, who died of wetn— to his son beau, who died of brain cancer— to his son beau, who died of brain cancer in— to his son beau, who died of brain cancer in 2015. now a twopeon— brain cancer in 2015. now a european rocket— brain cancer in 2015. now a european rocket is on its way to twpttet— european rocket is on its way to twpttet tot— european rocket is on its way to twpttet tot potnt— european rocket is on its way to jupiter for point 1— european rocket is on its way to jupiter for point 1 billion mttee— jupiter for point 1 billion mttee owew— jupiter for point 1 billion miles away to- jupiter for point 1 billion miles away to explore whether or not it— miles away to explore whether or not tt ewppotte— miles away to explore whether or not it supports life.— miles away to explore whether or not it supports life. it's going to tote— not it supports life. it's going to tote mote— not it supports life. it's going to take more than eight years for to take more than eight years tot tne— to take more than eight years tot tne etx— to take more than eight years for the six tonne— to take more than eight years for the six tonne spacecraft otttet— for the six tonne spacecraft called juice _ for the six tonne spacecraft called juice to _ for the six tonne spacecraft called juice to get there. it'll tnen— called juice to get there. it'll tnen epent— called juice to get there. it'll then spend around three years wetng— then spend around three years using instruments to investigate wnetnet— using instruments to investigate wnetnet tne— using instruments to investigate whether the planet's three moons can whether the planet's three moons ewppott— whether the planet's three moons ewppott tite— whether the planet's three moons can support life in— whether the planet's three moons can support life in its oceans. in can support life in its oceans. tn o— can support life in its oceans. tn o tw— can support life in its oceans. in a £14 billion— can support life in its oceans. in a £14 billion mission. if all goee— in a £14 billion mission. if all goee wett— in a £14 billion mission. if all goes well, juice— in a £14 billion mission. if all goes well, juice should reach twpttet— goes well, juice should reach twpttet .— goes well, juice should reach twpttet . ny— goes well, juice should reach jupiter - by july— goes well, juice should reach jupiter . by july 2031. ulez

goes well, juice should reach jupiter. by july 2031. ulez gb wewe— jupiter. by july 2031. ulez gb news, britain's— jupiter. by july 2031. ulez gb news, britain's news channel. wow— news, britain's news channel. wow toot— news, britain's news channel. wow toot to— news, britain's news channel. wow toot to .— now back to. patrick hots— now back to. patrick | tote to— now back to. patrick . lots to get- now back to. patrick lots to get through, but we now back to. patrick lots to gtbigirough, but we now back to. patrick lots to gtbig newsi, but we now back to. patrick lots to gtbig news that we start with the big news that i brought you a few moments ago from video wall. nurses will from our video wall. nurses will stage another round of strikes after royal after members of the royal college rejected the college of nursing rejected the government's offer . 54% of government's pay offer. 54% of the rcn's members voted to reject an offer of a 5% pay rise this year and a cash payment for last year. so it wasn't actually that far off. the old brexit result was it? but there we go. it comes after nurses who are members of another union unison voted to accept a pay offer aimed at resolving the nhs dispute . i'm joined now by gb dispute. i'm joined now by gb news political reporter catherine forster. catherine. this puts the ch's this actually puts the ch's chief in a very sticky situation because she recommended that they take this offer . yes, some

they take this offer. yes, some splits they take this offer. yes, some epttte emetgtng— yes, some splits emerging between the ttttetent— splits emerging between the different unions— splits emerging between the different unions and indeed wttntn— different unions and indeed wttntn tne— different unions and indeed within the unions now because pat within the unions now because tot cuten— within the unions now because pat cullen, head— within the unions now because pat cullen, head of the rcn, is one— pat cullen, head of the rcn, is toe to— pat cullen, head of the rcn, is toe to epeot— pat cullen, head of the rcn, is due to speak at— pat cullen, head of the rcn, is due to speak at 6:00 tonight. now:— due to speak at 6:00 tonight. now, previously,— due to speak at 6:00 tonight. now, previously, she recommended that now, previously, she recommended tnot memette— now, previously, she recommended that members accepted this deal and that members accepted this deal tnt ot— that members accepted this deal and ot owee— that members accepted this deal and of course, they've rejected it. and of course, they've rejected it 5.%_ and of course, they've rejected it sew nowe— and of course, they've rejected it. 54% have rejected it on a twnowt— it. 54% have rejected it on a twnowt ot— it. 54% have rejected it on a turnout of 61.— it. 54% have rejected it on a turnout of 61. and now she's wntten— turnout of 61. and now she's written to— turnout of 61. and now she's written to steve— turnout of 61. and now she's written to steve barclay , the written to steve barclay, the weottn— written to steve barclay, the health secretary, and is saying tnot— health secretary, and is saying tnot tne— health secretary, and is saying that this offer— health secretary, and is saying that this offer is— health secretary, and is saying that this offer is simply not enowgn. — that this offer is simply not enowgn. tne— that this offer is simply not enough. the crisis in our health ont— enough. the crisis in our health and otte— enough. the crisis in our health and care services— enough. the crisis in our health and care services cannot be ottteeeet— and care services cannot be addressed without significant ottom— addressed without significant action, etcetera,_ addressed without significant action, etcetera, etcetera , action, etcetera, etcetera, unti— action, etcetera, etcetera, until there _ action, etcetera, etcetera, until there is— action, etcetera, etcetera, until there is a- action, etcetera, etcetera, until there is a significantly improved— until there is a significantly improved paid— until there is a significantly improved paid offer, we're toned— improved paid offer, we're forced back— improved paid offer, we're forced back to— improved paid offer, we're forced back to the picket line. not— forced back to the picket line. not ot— forced back to the picket line. but of course,— forced back to the picket line. but of course, only a few short weeke— but of course, only a few short weete ego— but of course, only a few short weete ogo ene— but of course, only a few short weeks ago she had recommended tnot— weeks ago she had recommended tnot tnew— weeks ago she had recommended tnot tnew oeeept— weeks ago she had recommended that they accept the offer and tneee — that they accept the offer and now these new— that they accept the offer and now these new strikes, 48 hours of now these new strikes, 48 hours ot etntee— now these new strikes, 48 hours of strikes from _ now these new strikes, 48 hours of strikes from 8— now these new strikes, 48 hours of strikes from 8 pm. on april tne— of strikes from 8 pm. on april tne pom.— of strikes from 8 pm. on april the 30th. and— of strikes from 8 pm. on april the 30th. and this— of strikes from 8 pm. on april the 30th. and this time and i tntnt— the 30th. and this time and i tntnt tne— the 30th. and this time and i think this is— the 30th. and this time and i think this is really worrying . think this is really worrying. mete— think this is really worrying. tnete ewe— think this is really worrying. there were exemptions in place ptewowetw— there were exemptions in place ptewowetw tot— there were exemptions in place previously for cancer care, emergency—

previously for cancer care, emergency care. it's etcetera. tnoee — emergency care. it's etcetera. tnoee wit— emergency care. it's etcetera. those will not— emergency care. it's etcetera. those will not apply now. so wit— those will not apply now. so nurses will be _ those will not apply now. so nurses will be walking out in tnoee— nurses will be walking out in those areas. _ nurses will be walking out in those areas. i— nurses will be walking out in those areas. i just- nurses will be walking out in those areas. i just wonder, though, i just wonder, though, look, i don't know if this is even possible to answer at this stage, but so 54% of a 61% turnout voted against this beanng turnout voted against this bearing in mind another nursing union, unison voted to accept this pay offer. so they are in a minority , a massive minority of minority, a massive minority of people here who voted to reject this pay offer , this strike, this pay offer, this strike, then , i mean, i would imagine then, i mean, i would imagine catherine , i don't know. i would catherine, i don't know. i would imagine that what, 46% of people out of that just wouldn't turn up to it because they voted to accept the pay offer. no. well, we'll have to. i'm sure- ft ktttt well, we'll have to. i'm sure the meme— we'll have to. i'm sure the meme wit— we'll have to. i'm sure the maths will be— we'll have to. i'm sure the maths will be broken down, but oettotntw— maths will be broken down, but oettotntw tn— maths will be broken down, but certainly in the— maths will be broken down, but certainly in the case unison, certainly in the case of unison, tne— certainly in the case of unison, me te— certainly in the case of unison, tnte telwew— certainly in the case of unison, this is very different this is a very different eootton— this is a very different reaction,-it?- this is a very different reaction, it? because reaction, isn't it? because wwe— reaction, isn't it? because unison 74% voted to accept, i tntnt— unison 74% voted to accept, i tntnt wottn— unison 74% voted to accept, i think worth saying that unison . think worth saying that unison. they— think worth saying that unison. they tepteeent— think worth saying that unison. they represent nurses, but they oteo— they represent nurses, but they oteo tepteeent— they represent nurses, but they also represent other nhs workers and ambulance— also represent other nhs workers and ambulance workers too. but

the government— and ambulance workers too. but the government are saying the teeteton— the government are saying the teeteton tw— the government are saying the decision by unison , the largest decision by unison, the largest wws— decision by unison, the largest wns omon— decision by unison, the largest nhs union, demonstrates that it is nhs union, demonstrates that it te o— nhs union, demonstrates that it te o tott— nhs union, demonstrates that it te o tott ont— nhs union, demonstrates that it is a fair and reasonable ptopoeot— is a fair and reasonable proposal that- is a fair and reasonable proposal that can bring this ttepwte— proposal that can bring this ttepwte to— proposal that can bring this dispute to an— proposal that can bring this dispute to an end . so the fact dispute to an end. so the fact tnot— dispute to an end. so the fact tnot uwtsow — dispute to an end. so the fact that unison has— dispute to an end. so the fact that unison has accepted it sort of that unison has accepted it sort ot ettengtnene— that unison has accepted it sort of strengthens the— that unison has accepted it sort of strengthens the government's none.— of strengthens the government's nont. nut— of strengthens the government's nont. nut wetn— of strengthens the government's hand. but yeah, difficult now for hand. but yeah, difficult now tot tne— hand. but yeah, difficult now tot tne tcw— hand. but yeah, difficult now tot tne tcw ,— hand. but yeah, difficult now for the rcn , it— hand. but yeah, difficult now for the rcn , it is difficult for for the rcn, it is difficult for tne— for the rcn, it is difficult for tne tcw — for the rcn, it is difficult for the rcn completely, but look, tntnt— the rcn completely, but look, tnont wow— the rcn completely, but look, tnont you wew— the rcn completely, but look, thank you very much for breaking that thank you very much for breaking tnot town. — thank you very much for breaking that down. great— thank you very much for breaking that down. [wife that down. great stuff. catherine forster there. our political reporter to political reporter now on to some alarming out today some alarming figures out today that excess almost that show excess deaths almost tripled month's tripled after last month's junior doctors strike. so this is interesting, we're is interesting, isn't it? we're talking nurses talking about another nurses strike. the strike. we're still in the middle junior. doctors middle of a junior. doctors strike have just strike the figures have just dropped, want better dropped, for want of a better phrase when comes to the phrase, when it comes to the amount who sadly died, phrase, when it comes to the amoun deaths who sadly died, phrase, when it comes to the amoun deaths duringio sadly died, phrase, when it comes to the amoun deaths during wring.y died, phrase, when it comes to the amoun deaths during wring theird, excess deaths during wring their last strike. so they walked out for 72 hours between the 13th and 15th of march. junior doctors and over a two week penod doctors and over a two week period during and after the strike, the number of excess deaths in england shot up by nearly 170. so there you go . the

nearly 170. so there you go. the news comes on the day that the result of the ballot on the government's pay for nurses has just been announced. i'm joined now by kelvin mackenzie. he's a former of the sun. kelvin former editor of the sun. kelvin look, i find this remarkable, really. do you think that we should ban junior doctors from striking and be able say to striking and be able to say to them, can do because them, we can do it because it's killing people ? well, they killing people? well, they always knew that it would kill people. they did accept that teoowee ot— people. they did accept that because, of course,- they did accept that because, of course, they're the peopte— because, of course, they're the peopte tnot— because, of course, they're the people that aren't— because, of course, they're the people that aren't going to die. ant— people that aren't going to die. and therefore,— people that aren't going to die. and therefore, i— people that aren't going to die. and therefore, i think that we etop— and therefore, i think that we etop pottoe— and therefore, i think that we stop police officers is because tow— stop police officers is because tow ont— stop police officers is because law and order— stop police officers is because law and order is— stop police officers is because law and order is important. �*ftt�*tt; law and order is important. we etop— law and order is important. we etop tne— law and order is important. we etop the army— law and order is important. we stop the army from _ law and order is important. we stop the army from soldiers from striking because obviously the defence of the realm is important. surely we must be otte— important. surely we must be otte to— important. surely we must be otte to ety— important. surely we must be able to say that— surely we must be able to say that doctors can't etttte — able to say that doctors can't strike because _ able to say that doctors can't strike because people's health is strike because people's health te tmpottont— strike because people's health te tmpottont .— strike because people's health is important . and actually we is important. and actually we nowe— is important. and actually we nowe tne— is important. and actually we now have the numbers which say tnot— now have the numbers which say tnot between— now have the numbers which say that between the— now have the numbers which say that between the dates of march the that between the dates of march tne ntn— that between the dates of march tne tttn ont— that between the dates of march the 11th and march— that between the dates of march the 11th and march the 24th, the week— the 11th and march the 24th, the week ot— the 11th and march the 24th, the week ot ont— the 11th and march the 24th, the week of and the— the 11th and march the 24th, the week of and the week after the ante, — week of and the week after the ante, tne — week of and the week after the strike, the number— week of and the week after the strike, the number of people tnot—

strike, the number of people tnot ttet— strike, the number of people that died over— strike, the number of people that died over a— strike, the number of people that died over a five year tweneg— that died over a five year average during- that died over a five year average during that period was 11% average during that period was two ntgnen— average during that period was 11% higher. now— average during that period was 11% higher. now look, you can get etote— 11% higher. now look, you can get etote to— 11% higher. now look, you can get stats to prove— 11% higher. now look, you can get stats to prove anything, but wow-we— get stats to prove anything, but wow-we got— get stats to prove anything, but wow-we got to— get stats to prove anything, but you've got to believe that there are you've got to believe that there tt— you've got to believe that there tt to — you've got to believe that there tt to t— you've got to believe that there are if 40 if 47,000 _ you've got to believe that there are if 40 if 47,000 doctors go on ente— are if 40 if 47,000 doctors go on strike, there— are if 40 if 47,000 doctors go on strike, there is— are if 40 if 47,000 doctors go on strike, there is a significant- on strike, there is a significant risk that people won-t— significant risk that people won't bother— significant risk that people won't bother with the health eentoe. — won't bother with the health eentoe. 0t— won't bother with the health service. or if— won't bother with the health service. or if you— won't bother with the health service. or if you did get to tne— service. or if you did get to tne neottn— service. or if you did get to the health service, you wouldn't be eowet— the health service, you wouldn't be eowet .— the health service, you wouldn't be eowet . so— the health service, you wouldn't be saved . so i,— the health service, you wouldn't be saved . so i, i— the health service, you wouldn't be saved . so i, i honestly , i be saved. so i, i honestly, i ton-t— be saved. so i, i honestly, i don't believe— be saved. so i, i honestly, i don't believe that the junior toetote— don't believe that the junior toetote oon— don't believe that the junior doctors can turn— don't believe that the junior doctors can turn round and say, ootwottw— doctors can turn round and say, actually nobody— doctors can turn round and say, actually nobody has died because of actually nobody has died because ot ow— actually nobody has died because of our actions.— actually nobody has died because of our actions. they— actually nobody has died because of our actions. they knew it . of our actions. they knew it. they— of our actions. they knew it. tnew oe— of our actions. they knew it. they are taking— of our actions. they knew it. they are taking our pain and our team— they are taking our pain and our team to— they are taking our pain and our team to te— they are taking our pain and our death to as leverage against the pay death to as leverage against the pew nee— death to as leverage against the pew . — death to as leverage against the pew . wett— death to as leverage against the pay rise. �*ftt�*ttgt " death to as leverage against the pay rise. �*fttttgt " pay rise. well, kelvin, what would you say the on shocking beyond shocking. well, just on that look, what would you say to the people who will be watching this now say, what this now who say, well, what else expect them to do? else do you expect them to do? it's only that they can else do you expect them to do? it's theiry that they can else do you expect them to do? it's their voice that they can else do you expect them to do? it's their voice heard.iey can else do you expect them to do? it's their voice heard. and an else do you expect them to do? it's their voice heard. and if make their voice heard. and if they to see a good pay rise they want to see a good pay rise and they've got a strike. okay, can do you know, that- and they've got a strike. okay, can do you know, that is- gt okay, can do you know, that is a gt: okay, can do you know, that is a very good— can do you know, that is a very goot potnt. — can do you know, that is a very good point. first— can do you know, that is a very good point. first all, you good point. first of all, you enowttn-t— good point. first of all, you shouldn't-into- good point. first of all, you shouldn't into the medical

shouldn't go into the medical ptoteeeton.— shouldn't go into the medical. profession._call profession. remember, they call tnemeetwee— profession. remember, they call themselves-into— profession. remember, they call themselves into the medical should not go into the medical ptoteeeton— should not go into the medical ptoteeeton on— should not go into the medical profession on the— should not go into the medical profession on the basis we profession on the basis that we are profession on the basis that we one-to— profession on the basis that we one-tolon— profession on the basis that we are _to .on strike- profession on the basis that we are to on strike and b, are going to go on strike and b, we mow— are going to go on strike and b, we know-are-to. are going to go on strike and b,i we know-are-to die, we know people are going to die, but-pav— we know people are going to die, tut-pow nee— we know people are going to die, tut-pow te— we know people are going to die, but-pay rise is more- but our pay rise is more tmpottont.— but our pay rise is more important. okay actually important. okay i actually tettewe— important. okay i actually believe-doctors- important. okay i actually believe doctors should be believe the doctors should be pott— believe the doctors should be pow—ont- believe the doctors should be pott—ont t- believe the doctors should be. paid—and i believe paid more money and i believe tnot— paid more money and i believe met one— paid more money and i believe tnot ot— paid more money and i believe that one of the— paid more money and i believe that one of the things that's notttng— that one of the things that's holding them— that one of the things that's holding them back is that mew-te— holding them back is that they're unionised and b, that me— they're unionised and b, that me te— they're unionised and b, that me te o— they're unionised and b, that this is a monopoly we should be tttngtng— this is a monopoly we should be tnngtng tn— this is a monopoly we should be bringing in hospitals. this is a monopoly we should be bringing in hospitals . we should bringing in hospitals. we should be distracted. _ bringing in hospitals. we should be distracted. we— bringing in hospitals. we should be distracted. we should be deconstructing_ be distracted. we should be deconstructing the national neottn— deconstructing the national health service,— deconstructing the national health service, which clearly toee— health service, which clearly toee not— health service, which clearly does not work.— health service, which clearly does not work. and look, there wttt— does not work. and look, there wttt te— does not work. and look, there will be there— does not work. and look, there will be there there to make you teet— will be there there to make you teet tettet— will be there there to make you feel better in— will be there there to make you feel better in this— will be there there to make you feel better in this particular mew-we— feel better in this particular case, they've discovered industrial _ case, they've discovered industrial disputes make you teet— industrial disputes make you teet oee— industrial disputes make you feel worse and— industrial disputes make you feel worse and they don't care . feel worse and they don't care. so feel worse and they don't care. so t— feel worse and they don't care. so t to— feel worse and they don't care. so i do understand that they're enttttet— so i do understand that they're enttttet to— so i do understand that they're entitled to more— so i do understand that they're entitled to more money. the way to get— entitled to more money. the way to get mone— entitled to more money. the way to get more money— entitled to more money. the way to get more money is to have eompetttton— to get more money is to have competition come— to get more money is to have competition come into the system so competition come into the system eo tnot— competition come into the system eo tnot tt— competition come into the system eo tnot tt te— competition come into the system so that it is not— competition come into the system so that it is not just— competition come into the system so that it is not just the tax payer— so that it is not just the tax payer tnot— so that it is not just the tax payer that appears to be funding a payer that appears to be funding o ewetem— payer that appears to be funding o ewetem wnton— payer that appears to be funding a system which cannot cope with the a system which cannot cope with tne temonte— a system which cannot cope with the demands of— a system which cannot cope with the demands of today's health. totow-e— the demands of today's health. totow-e ott— the demands of today's health. today's old people and the demente— today's old people and the demands of— today's old people and the demands of a— today's old people and the demands of a trade union which

has demands of a trade union which nee ewttentw— demands of a trade union which has suddenly got— demands of a trade union which has suddenly got massively mttttont— has suddenly got massively militant and— has suddenly got massively militant and they don't seem to otowt— militant and they don't seem to care about their— militant and they don't seem to care about their essential their eeeenttot— care about their essential their essential people. _ care about their essential their essential people. the customer , essential people. the customer, the essential people. the customer, tne potent.— essential people. the customer, tne pottent. wny— essential people. the customer, the patient. why is that ? the patient. why is that? tenn— the patient. why is that? town teet— the patient. why is that? kevin, just quickly,- the patient. why is that? kevin, just quickly, because i'm going to talk to an actual junior doctor in a second, but i just want to get your views on the breaking news that happened just ago, which is just a few moments ago, which is that 54% of 61% of people who bothered to turn out for the royal college of nursing's vote have that they are are have decided that they are are going to go on strike now and reject the government's pay offer. so that's about the nurses. the dispute is over. the dispute is over with unison going— the dispute is over with unison gotng toot— the dispute is over with unison gotng poet ont— the dispute is over with unison going back and with such a large peneentoge— going back and with such a large percentage voting _ going back and with such a large percentage voting yes, then they noneettw— percentage voting yes, then they noneettw tne — percentage voting yes, then they honestly the government should and honestly the government should ont wttt.— honestly the government should and wit ant— honestly the government should and will. and i— honestly the government should and will. and i do— honestly the government should and will. and i do congratulate tnem — and will. and i do congratulate tnem otowt— and will. and i do congratulate them about this. _ and will. and i do congratulate them about this. sit tight and you— them about this. sit tight and wow wttt— them about this. sit tight and you will watch— them about this. sit tight and you will watch this. now begin to tweet— you will watch this. now begin to break down. _ you will watch this. now begin to break down. there'll be some ttnt— to break down. there'll be some ttnt ot— to break down. there'll be some ttnt ot emott— to break down. there'll be some kind of small thing which makes it kind of small thing which makes tt toot— kind of small thing which makes tt toot ttte— kind of small thing which makes tt toot ttte o— kind of small thing which makes it took like a fresh— kind of small thing which makes it look like a fresh deal. but in it look like a fresh deal. but tn tne— it look like a fresh deal. but tn tne ent— it look like a fresh deal. but in the end of— it look like a fresh deal. but in the end of the— it look like a fresh deal. but in the end of the day, the ttepwte— in the end of the day, the ttepwte te— in the end of the day, the dispute is at— in the end of the day, the dispute is at an end. okay. wett— dispute is at an end. okay. well, kelvin,— dispute is at an end. okay. well, kelvin, thank you very much. as ever. kelvin mackenzie,

the former of the sun, the former editor of the sun, reacting those two stories. reacting to those two stories. they related. they are both health related. joining bucha joining me now is bucha mukherjee, who is a junior doctor and also as well , mukherjee, who is a junior doctor and also as well, a former miss england winner. there go . fantastic stuff. there you go. fantastic stuff. thank you very much for joining me. do make of the me. what what do you make of the junior strikes? because junior doctors strikes? because i know we've been slightly overtaken with the overtaken by events with the nursing let's just nursing strike, but let's just keep junior doctors keep it. junior doctors related . i woke this . and when i woke up this morning figures morning and saw the figures about deaths from the about excess deaths from the previous actually previous strike, he actually made angry . have you made me quite angry. have you been striking so i voted to strike and as it happened the last lot of strike days, i was on what we call zero days. i had just finished night— on what we call zero days. i had just finished night shifts- on what we call zero days. i had just finished night shifts .- tit" {at : i had just finished night shifts . so just finished night shifts. so you— just finished night shifts. so you get— just finished night shifts. so you get o— just finished night shifts. so you get a couple of days off as a you get a couple of days off as o neewtt— you get a couple of days off as o neewtt. so— you get a couple of days off as a result. so the— you get a couple of days off as a result. so the decision at tnot— a result. so the decision at tnot ttme— a result. so the decision at that time was— a result. so the decision at that time was not very hard for me not— that time was not very hard for me not to— that time was not very hard for me not to turn— that time was not very hard for me not to turn up— that time was not very hard for me not to turn up to work teoowee— me not to turn up to work teoowee t— me not to turn up to work because i was— me not to turn up to work because i was already off. yeah > ant.— because i was already off. yeah > ant. ont— because i was already off. yeah > ant. and t— because i was already off. yeah > and, and i was— because i was already off. yeah > and, and i was hoping- because i was already off. yeah > and, and i was hoping that that would be a one off. that we would strike and— that would be a one off. that we would strike and that— : that we would strike and that would be enowgn— would strike and that would be enowgn .— would strike and that would be enowgn . nut—

would strike and that would be enough . but clearly it wasn't. enough. but clearly it wasn't. ant— enough. but clearly it wasn't. ant now— enough. but clearly it wasn't. and now we're— enough. but clearly it wasn't. and now we're at— enough. but clearly it wasn't. and now we're at the point where not— and now we're at the point where not to— and now we're at the point where we've had to strike— and now we're at the point where we've had to strike again and, ont— we've had to strike again and, and t— we've had to strike again and, and i personally— we've had to strike again and, and i personally couldn't twetttw— and i personally couldn't justify striking for four days peneonot— justify striking for four days personal reasons, mainly ttntnetot— personal reasons, mainly financial reasons , financial financial reasons, financial oonetnotnte— financial reasons, financial constraints. i— financial reasons, financial constraints. i can't afford at me— constraints. i can't afford at he potnt— constraints. i can't afford at me potnt tn— constraints. i can't afford at this point in time to take four towe— this point in time to take four towe ott— this point in time to take four towe ott wont.— this point in time to take four days off work. and that was the mom— days off work. and that was the main reason for— days off work. and that was the main reason for me not striking main reason for the not striking on main reason for me not striking on me— main reason for me not striking on this occasion. _ main reason for me not striking on this occasion. okay. so i mean , you've been really honest mean, you've been really honest about that. it was a more of a money thing than a moral thing. i say. so, yes, i would say. so, yes, definitely. _ i would say. so, yes, definitely. can- i would say. so, yes, definitely. can i- : so, yes, definitely. can i ask, do i would say. so, yes,- definitely. can i ask, do junior tootone— definitely. can i ask, do junior doctors take— definitely. can i ask, do junior doctors take the— definitely. can i ask, do junior doctors take the hippocratic ottn — doctors take the hippocratic ottn on— doctors take the hippocratic ottn on te— doctors take the hippocratic oath or is this— doctors take the hippocratic oath or is this a— doctors take the hippocratic oath or is this a bygone thing ? oath or is this a bygone thing? wttt— oath or is this a bygone thing? wttt te— oath or is this a bygone thing? wttt to t?— oath or is this a bygone thing? what is it? we— oath or is this a bygone thing? t?’ we actually oath or is this a bygone thing? �*fttfttt t?’ we actually don't what is it? we actually don't tote— what is it? we actually don't tote onw— what is it? we actually don't tote onw eton— what is it? we actually don't take any such oath,- t?’ we actually don't take any such oath, but of course, a bit— take any such oath, but of course, a bit of- take any such oath, but of course, a bit of a myth. t?’ course, a bit of a myth. is it? yest— course, a bit of a myth. is it? wee t— course, a bit of a myth. is it? wee t wowtt— course, a bit of a myth. is it? yes, i would say— course, a bit of a myth. is it? yes, i would say so.— course, a bit of a myth. t?’ yes, i would say so. but nevertheless, - yes, i would say so. but nevertheless, we do have , you nevertheless, we do have, you know:— nevertheless, we do have, you know: twe— nevertheless, we do have, you know, five pillars— nevertheless, we do have, you know, five pillars that we stand by. know, five pillars that we stand tw. one— know, five pillars that we stand bv- one ot— know, five pillars that we stand by- one ot tne— know, five pillars that we stand by. one of the biggest one is nonmaleficence_ by. one of the biggest one is nonmaleficence .— by. one of the biggest one is nonmaleficence . we don't want to nonmaleficence. we don't want to nonm . we— nonmaleficence. we don't want to cause harm . we want to do no cause harm. we want to do no nonm— cause harm. we want to do no

nonm tewont— cause harm. we want to do no harm beyond anything else of totng— harm beyond anything else of totng gooe— harm beyond anything else of totng goot on— harm beyond anything else of doing good or anything else we wont. — doing good or anything else we want now— doing good or anything else we want. how does— doing good or anything else we want. how does that how is that oompotttte— want. how does that how is that compatible with— want. how does that how is that compatible with strike action wnen— compatible with strike action wnen we— compatible with strike action when we know— compatible with strike action when we know that that will have a when we know that that will have t ttg— when we know that that will have t ttg tmpoet— when we know that that will have ottg tmpoet on— when we know that that will have a big impact on patient health? i a big impact on patient health? twent— a big impact on patient health? twtnt to— a big impact on patient health? t wont to teet— a big impact on patient health? i want to just humanise- a big impact on patient health? i want to just humanise doctors here that we are as much humans as much as the other person doing their job. as much as the other person doing theirjob. and as much as the other person doing their job. and we've seen mwtttpte— doing their job. and we've seen multiple different— gtt g and we've seen multiple different industries ont— multiple different industries ont peopte— multiple different industries and people striking in the last few and people striking in the last tew montne— and people striking in the last tew montne .— and people striking in the last few months . us— and people striking in the last few months . us strange strike few months. us strange strike tnotn— few months. us strange strike train strikes,— few months. us strange strike train strikes, nursing strikes, etoeteno— train strikes, nursing strikes, etoeteno . — train strikes, nursing strikes, etcetera . you— train strikes, nursing strikes, etcetera . v/tt. gt t etcetera. you guys save lives, though. that's why it's a bit different. but it's a job and we have to pay our bills also. and with with mean i'm— have to pay our bills also. and with with mean i'm sure- with with mean i'm sure you're tt-e— with with mean i'm sure you're tt-e tw— with with mean i'm sure you're aware it's £14 per— with with mean i'm sure you're aware it's £14 per hour. it's not— aware it's £14 per hour. it's not enowgn— aware it's £14 per hour. it's not enowgn . — aware it's £14 per hour. it's not enough . it's- aware it's £14 per hour. it's not enough . t not enough. it's not true because i heard that that was just the bottom around 11% of junior doctors who don't do anything like overtime or or work weekends . so anything like overtime or or work weekends. so this anything like overtime or or work weekends . so this £14 anything like overtime or or work weekends. so this £14 an hour thing that doesn't also include the pension payments and stuff, does it? yes i do agree

with that. however , it's the with that. however, it's the concept— with that. however, it's the concept .— with that. however, it's the concept , really. _ with that. however, it's the concept , really. i- however, it's the concept , really. i mean, however, it's the concept, really. i mean, junior tootone— concept, really. i mean, junior doctors covers— concept, really. i mean, junior doctors covers a— concept, really. i mean, junior doctors covers a large number of peopte— doctors covers a large number of peopte wno— doctors covers a large number of peopte wno ne— doctors covers a large number of people who are basically not consultants— people who are basically not consultants .— people who are basically not consultants . nevertheless, i consultants. nevertheless, i tntnt— consultants. nevertheless, i tntnt mt— consultants. nevertheless, i think my colleagues have they've to— think my colleagues have they've to me— think my colleagues have they've come to this point— think my colleagues have they've come to this point and of tt-e— come to this point and of course, it's been a burden on our conscience— course, it's been a burden on our conscience also knowing that it our conscience also knowing that tt wttt— our conscience also knowing that tt wttt tmpoot— our conscience also knowing that it will impact patient care. but i it will impact patient care. but t oon— it will impact patient care. but t eet— it will impact patient care. but t eow tnot— it will impact patient care. but i can say that from my experience _ i can say that from my experience in- i can say that from my experience in the days that i've teen— experience in the days that i've been wonttng— experience in the days that i've been working on— experience in the days that i've been working on this week, i've teen— been working on this week, i've been wonttng— been working on this week, i've been working during the strike towe— been working during the strike towe ont— been working during the strike days and we've— been working during the strike days and we've had actually more oonewttonte— days and we've had actually more consultants on— days and we've had actually more consultants on board and senior toetone— consultants on board and senior toetone .— consultants on board and senior doctors , they're— consultants on board and senior doctors , they're actually more doctors, they're actually more expentenoet— doctors, they're actually more experienced and _ doctors, they're actually more experienced and actually cover the experienced and actually cover tne gnownt— experienced and actually cover tne gnownt to— experienced and actually cover the ground to cover for the etntte— the ground to cover for the etntte towe— the ground to cover for the strike days. and- the ground to cover for the strike days. and this has been for strike days. and this has been ton my— strike days. and this has been for my workplace. _ strike days. and this has been for my workplace. i can't speak tnot— for my workplace. i can't speak tnot ton— for my workplace. i can't speak that for other— for my workplace. i can't speak that for other places , but i that for other places, but i know— that for other places, but i know wat— that for other places, but i know that the _ that for other places, but i know that the rotor coordinators, they prepared in twonoet— coordinators, they prepared in owonoet ton— coordinators, they prepared in advance for that. gtt advance for that. i get that. ant— advance for that. i get that. ant t— advance for that. i get that. and i really hope that's the case.i and i really hope that's the case. i really hope that's the case. i really hope that's the case. it's slightly difficult for me to accept that in a sense because we've just seen the

figures drop from the last time that there was a strike and the excess deaths tripled. so i can't quite see how that line of, well, we're doing our best to make sure that there's no real holes in the schedule is working. if more people are dying, really be dying, should you really be asking junior doctors or dying, should you really be askipeople junior doctors or dying, should you really be askipeople whotnior doctors or dying, should you really be askipeople who arer doctors or dying, should you really be askipeople who are basicallyor the people who are basically forcing strike and longer forcing us to strike and longer days, longer days, longer days without without hearing what we're trying to ask for? the whole point was to- we're trying to ask for? the whole point was to not- g 7 the whole point was to not strike ont— whole point was to not strike ont not— whole point was to not strike and not strike,— whole point was to not strike and not strike, come back and etttte— and not strike, come back and etttte ogotn— and not strike, come back and etttte ogotn .— and not strike, come back and strike again . we— and not strike, come back and strike again . we wanted the strike again. we wanted the ttnet— strike again. we wanted the ttnet etntte— strike again. we wanted the first strike to _ strike again. we wanted the first strike to be— strike again. we wanted the first strike to be working and in first strike to be working and tn toot.— first strike to be working and tn toot. tne— first strike to be working and in fact, the negotiations have teen— in fact, the negotiations have teen noppentng— in fact, the negotiations have been happening far before that. and been happening far before that. ant tt-e— been happening far before that. and it's because— been happening far before that. and it's because of being tgnotet— and it's because of being ignored and— and it's because of being ignored and not being heard that we've been forced— ignored and not being heard that we've been forced to. v/tt;ttt:�* ignored and not being heard that we've been forced to. v/tt;.t~�* :�* we've been forced to. yeah, when i we've been forced to. yeah, when t toot. — we've been forced to. yeah, when i look, it's the average salary. the average salary in the uk is £30,000 a year. now my understanding is that junior doctors can start on between anything between around 29 and 34 and then within around 5 or 6 years you could be on around 58,000. and then really you're

away . a lot of people will will away. a lot of people will will go to universities to have student debt will start in at a job that is on a lot less than that. and after 5 or 6 years not being in a position the same as medical professionals with as good a financial earning capacity in the long run, or as good a pension , why should you good a pension, why should you guys get the right? well, the very reason because- gt gtt , g7 well, the very reason because our our job is very reason because our our job te eometntng— very reason because our our job is something that— very reason because our our job is something that is non—negotiable. i mean, it is. is something that is— non—negotiable. i mean, it is. so non—negotiable. i mean, it is. so we— non—negotiable. i mean, it is. so we neet— non—negotiable. i mean, it is. so we need doctors.— non—negotiable. i mean, it is. so we need doctors. absolutely. it's holding people to ransom a bit. is it? well, it isn't . but bit. is it? well, it isn't. but at tne— bit. is it? well, it isn't. but at tne eme— bit. is it? well, it isn't. but at the same time- bit. is it? well, it isn't. but at the same time ,- t 7 well, it isn't. but at the same time , if you respect at the same time, if you respect ont— at the same time, if you respect ont oppneetote— at the same time, if you respect and appreciate the— at the same time, if you respect and appreciate the role of that, tumor— and appreciate the role of that, ttnton tootote— and appreciate the role of that, junior doctors play in saving twee— junior doctors play in saving twee ont— junior doctors play in saving lives and saving— junior doctors play in saving lives and saving the nhs , lives and saving the nhs, essentially,— lives and saving the nhs, essentially, then you'd oppneetote— essentially, then you'd appreciate that. and when we're not oettng— appreciate that. and when we're not oettng ton— appreciate that. and when we're not asking for something that's ttnottonot— not asking for something that's irrational and— not asking for something that's irrational and actually it's tott— irrational and actually it's tott onw— irrational and actually it's fair only because, yes, we're in

twenty— fair only because, yes, we're in tntwenettw muon— fair only because, yes, we're in university much longer than a lot university much longer than a tot ot— university much longer than a tot ot otnet— university much longer than a lot of other courses. we're tnene— lot of other courses. we're tnene tot— lot of other courses. we're there for six— lot of other courses. we're there for six years. we have otnet— there for six years. we have otnet teee— there for six years. we have other fees that _ there for six years. we have other fees that we have to put for other fees that we have to put tot tn— other fees that we have to put for in example,— other fees that we have to put for in example, my i'm a gp ttotnee— for in example, my i'm a gp ttotnee. twe— for in example, my i'm a gp trainee. i've had— for in example, my i'm a gp trainee. i've had to pay like tsoo— trainee. i've had to pay like over £500 this— trainee. i've had to pay like over £500 this year just to be part— over £500 this year just to be pott ot— over £500 this year just to be pott ot tne— over £500 this year just to be pent ot tne on. — over £500 this year just to be part of the gp. you know, the tott— part of the gp. you know, the royal cottege— part of the gp. you know, the royal college of— part of the gp. you know, the royal college of gps. so you know.— royal college of gps. so you know. tnene— royal college of gps. so you know, there are— royal college of gps. so you know, there are the costs all ott— know, there are the costs all ott up— know, there are the costs all ott up ont— know, there are the costs all add up and then— know, there are the costs all add up and then you're adding up, you— add up and then you're adding .p, you know.— add up and then you're adding up, you know, being a member of the up, you know, being a member of tne oww— up, you know, being a member of the bma, various— up, you know, being a member of the bma, various other costs and:— the bma, various other costs ont. ont— the bma, various other costs ont. ont we— the bma, various other costs and, and we get— the bma, various other costs and, and we get taxed a lot as wet.— and, and we get taxed a lot as wet. so— and, and we get taxed a lot as wet. so tt-e— and, and we get taxed a lot as well. so it's not— and, and we get taxed a lot as well. so it's not just a case of eomtng— well. so it's not just a case of we're earning and— well. so it's not just a case of we're earning and it's just going— we're earning and it's just gotng-ow- we're earning and it's just going our pockets. we're earning and it's just- going-our pockets. all going all into our pockets. all ttgnt. — going all into our pockets. all ntgntltowetw. — going all into our pockets. all right. .lovely. so- going all into our pockets. all right. .lovely. so i- going all into our pockets. all right. lovely. right. so lovely. so i must say, i've really enjoyed that. so thank very much thank thank you very much and thank you for coming to the studio as well. appreciated. that is, well. much appreciated. that is, of course, the wonderful bucha mukherjee there, who is a junior doctor former miss doctor and also a former miss england winner. your england winner. get your views coming course, gb views coming in, of course, gb views at gbnews.uk. i'm being now at gbnews.uk. i'm being told now that bit of breaking that we have a bit of breaking news. last few news. do we in the last few minutes the government has reacted that there reacted to the news that there will nurses strikes. will be more nurses strikes. a government spokesperson said it is hugely disappointing that the royal of nursing royal college of nursing membership rejected the pay membership has rejected the pay deal their deal recommended by their

leadership group following constructive , all constructive discussions, all parties agreed this was a fair and generous offer which is demonstrated unison , demonstrated by unison, representing share representing the largest share of workforce, choosing of the nhs workforce, choosing to accept it. the fact that the royal college of nursing has announced an escalation of strike derogation announced an escalation of strike a derogation announced an escalation of strike a vote derogation announced an escalation of strike a vote from ierogation announced an escalation of strike a vote from the gation based on a vote from the minority of the nursing workforce , will be hugely workforce, will be hugely concerning for patients . was concerning for patients. was difficult for me to even get that and i've that out, wasn't it? and i've got more breaking got some more breaking news for you some more you now. i've got some more breaking you. emmanuel breaking news for you. emmanuel macron won his battle to macron has won his battle to increase the pension 62 increase the pension age from 62 to go. cue mass to 64. there we go. cue mass outrage in paris. by sounds outrage in paris. by the sounds of things, francis constitutional council has ruled in of the government's in favour of the government's reforms. protesting reforms. people are protesting in paris right but i'm in paris right now, but i'm pleased to say that there's not been a repeat of the violence just yet of last weeks. just yet of the last few weeks. i going there shortly to i will be going there shortly to paris so that we go right. okay we've all seen the rise in paris previously, but it's not just the french who seem to be fed up with the system. i want to know what's gone wrong. why are so many people fed up, left, right and i'm patrick christys

many people fed up, left, right antgb i'm patrick christys many people fed up, left, right antgb news. 'm patrick christys

channel welcome back, everybody . patrick welcome back, everybody. patrick christys here on gb news. now we've all seen the riots in paris, but it's not just the french who seem to be fed up with the system. just what has gone okay. that's what gone wrong. okay. that's what i'm know. really i'm desperate to know. i really want understand now. want to understand this now. it's though. it's a landmark day, though. we're move from that we're going to move on from that quickly landmark quickly because it's a landmark day in the government's battle to migrant crisis. to solve the migrant crisis. it's the first anniversary of the rwanda deal, the uk's famous rwanda deal, which supposed to see which was supposed to see thousands migrants sent to thousands of migrants sent to the country. and of course, since then, absolutely asylum since then, absolutely no asylum seekers have been put on a plane to rwanda. last june, a late intervention by the european court for human rights blocked a flight carrying just a handful of migrants from taking off . of migrants from taking off. last month, suella braverman was in rwanda , where she inspected in rwanda, where she inspected accommodation that was supposed to used to house the asylum to be used to house the asylum seekers. actually said seekers. but she actually said that so much she that she loved it so much she wanted the name for the interior

designer, which i designer, which is both, i think, of suella taste think, a comment of suella taste and quite a self—defeating and also quite a self—defeating move you to say it's a move if you want to say it's a deterrent for people. there deterrent for people. but there we all of the tough we go. but for all of the tough talk government, talk from the government, the plan, plans meant plan, just like the plans meant to the people to rwanda, to take the people to rwanda, has has not off the ground . has has not got off the ground. let's just take a closer look at some of these details. it is some of these details. and it is indeed exactly one year since bods indeed exactly one year since boris stood up in the boris johnson stood up in the commons and said, well, we've got rwanda. and got this deal with rwanda. and as the agreement, the as part of the agreement, the government said that would government said that it would send £120 million to the rwandan authorities . so that's not authorities. so that's not cheap. taxpayers money and all that. and not just said zero migrants have been flown out to rwanda to underline the scale of the crisis. a total of 45,755 people crossed the channel on small boats last year. and to give some more context, 3793 people arrived in the uk on small boats during the first three months of 2023. it's worth while noting that the government's own preparations for the amount of arrivals in small boats this year tops the

85,000 mark. so nearly double what we had last year. new polling done by more in common to the group, more in common has found that almost double the number of voters support the rwanda deportation policy than oppose it . so rwanda deportation policy than oppose it. so it's rwanda deportation policy than oppose it . so it's got rwanda deportation policy than oppose it. so it's got support. the policy at the idea of putting people on a plane and flying that plane to rwanda and dropping them there is popular. that's fine. people aren't that majority, but a majority do not believe that it will actually resolve the channel migrant crisis. so the problem is people aren't morally opposed to planes taking off. they just don't think it's the right thing to solve. the migrant and solve. the migrant crisis. and therefore some would argue pretty self defeating, joining me unpick these findings me now to unpick these findings is a senior associate at more in common. it's conleth burns conleth . thank you very, very conleth. thank you very, very much. right talk me through if this okay. exactly where the this is okay. exactly where the pubuc this is okay. exactly where the public at when it comes to public are at when it comes to the rwanda deal. hit me . the rwanda deal. hit me. patrick. thanks very much for having me. so we've been ttoottng— having me. so we've been tnoettng tne— having me. so we've been tracking the public- g so we've been

tracking the public opinion on the tracking the public opinion on tne emot— tracking the public opinion on the small boats— tracking the public opinion on the small boats crisis and on ononnet— the small boats crisis and on channel crossings— the small boats crisis and on channel crossings more generally ne— channel crossings more generally tetote— channel crossings more generally since before boris— channel crossings more generally since before boris johnson made this announcement— since before boris johnson made this announcement a year ago totow. — this announcement a year ago totow. ant— this announcement a year ago today. and there's- this announcement a year ago today. ' ”vii; ”cc; this announcement a year ago today. ' gt today. and there's three things, basically. and you picked up on them in your intro there . the them in your intro there. the first thing is that fixing- t , the first thing is that fixing this onete— first thing is that fixing this crisis, stopping— first thing is that fixing this crisis, stopping the boats is tmpottont— crisis, stopping the boats is tmpontont to— crisis, stopping the boats is important to the public. it's a top— important to the public. it's a top twe— important to the public. it's a top ttwe teete— important to the public. it's a top five issue at— important to the public. it's a top five issue at the more neeem— top five issue at the more neeem pott— top five issue at the more recent poll this- top five issue at the more recent poll this week and 20% of the recent poll this week and 20% of tne putte— recent poll this week and 20% of tne ptttte eet— recent poll this week and 20% of the public say it's— recent poll this week and 20% of the public say it's a— recent poll this week and 20% of the public say it's a top issue tootng— the public say it's a top issue tootng tne— the public say it's a top issue facing the country. so generally epeottng— facing the country. so generally epeottng .— facing the country. so generally epeottng . tne— facing the country. so generally speaking , the public want to speaking, the public want to etop— speaking, the public want to etop tne— speaking, the public want to stop the boats. _ speaking, the public want to stop the boats. and as you said tyou— stop the boats. and as you said tyou know.— stop the boats. and as you said , you know, support is less than not. — , you know, support is less than not. mete— , you know, support is less than half. there is— , you know, support is less than half. there is more— , you know, support is less than half. there is more people who etppott— half. there is more people who etppont tnon— half. there is more people who support than oppose the rwanda pottow— support than oppose the rwanda pottew tn— support than oppose the rwanda pottew tn tne— support than oppose the rwanda policy in the abstract. but that etppott— policy in the abstract. but that etppont te— policy in the abstract. but that etppont te teee— policy in the abstract. but that support is less than half. and it support is less than half. and tt noe— support is less than half. and tt nee teen— support is less than half. and it has been consistently the mtt—tonttee— it has been consistently the mid—forties for— it has been consistently the mid—forties for the last year. ant— mid—forties for the last year. ant tnen— mid—forties for the last year. ant tnen oe— mid—forties for the last year. and then as you— mid—forties for the last year. and then as you as you rightly ttotgnt— and then as you as you rightly tnotgnt up— and then as you as you rightly brought up there,— and then as you as you rightly brought up there, most people ton-t— brought up there, most people ton-t tntnt— brought up there, most people don't think it's— brought up there, most people don't think it's going to work. mete-e— don't think it's going to work. tnene-e teen— don't think it's going to work. there's been a— don't think it's going to work. there's been a majority consistently— there's been a majority consistently over the past year wno— consistently over the past year wno eet— consistently over the past year wno eow tnot— consistently over the past year who say that this— consistently over the past year who say that this rwanda policy ten-t— who say that this rwanda policy ten-t tettottw— who say that this rwanda policy isn't actually going to do what it isn't actually going to do what tt ewe— isn't actually going to do what tt eowe on— isn't actually going to do what tt eowe on tne— isn't actually going to do what it says on the tin.— isn't actually going to do what it says on the tin. it's not going— it says on the tin. it's not gotng to— it says on the tin. it's not gotng to etop— it says on the tin. it's not going to stop the boats crossing the

going to stop the boats crossing tne cnonnet. — going to stop the boats crossing the channel. and— going to stop the boats crossing the channel. and that's the big onottenge— the channel. and that's the big challenge that— the channel. and that's the big challenge that faces the government _ challenge that faces the government effectively . we we've government effectively. we we've tone — government effectively. we we've tone potttng— government effectively. we we've done polling and— government effectively. we we've done polling and focus groups on this done polling and focus groups on he tot— done polling and focus groups on he tot tne— done polling and focus groups on this for the last— done polling and focus groups on this for the last year and lots at this for the last year and lots ot tnot. — this for the last year and lots ot tnot. ant— this for the last year and lots at that. and there are two tntnge— at that. and there are two tntnge tnt— at that. and there are two things that the - at that. and there are two things that the public want tene— things that the public want nene. tnt— things that the public want here. and it's— things that the public want here. and it's not that they're monottw— here. and it's not that they're morally opposed— here. and it's not that they're morally opposed to the rwanda pottew— morally opposed to the rwanda pottew. te— morally opposed to the rwanda pottew. xe you— morally opposed to the rwanda policy. as you said, 46% think it's policy. as you said, 46% think tt-e o— policy. as you said, 46% think tt-e o goot— policy. as you said, 46% think it's a good idea— policy. as you said, 46% think it's a good idea .— policy. as you said, 46% think it's a good idea . it's worth it's a good idea. it's worth tntng— it's a good idea. it's worth trying because— it's a good idea. it's worth trying because they think for mont— trying because they think for many ot— trying because they think for many ot tnem— trying because they think for many of them anyway, that it mtgnt— many of them anyway, that it mtgnt te— many of them anyway, that it mtgnt be e— many of them anyway, that it might be a deterrent for some peopte— might be a deterrent for some peopte .— might be a deterrent for some peopte . tut— might be a deterrent for some peopte . not met— might be a deterrent for some people . but they haven't. they people. but they haven't. they tnt— people. but they haven't. they tnot tt— people. but they haven't. they see that it hasn't— people. but they haven't. they see that it hasn't worked over tne— see that it hasn't worked over tne poet— see that it hasn't worked over tne poet wetn— see that it hasn't worked over the past year. and so they're not— the past year. and so they're not completely— the past year. and so they're not completely wedded the not completely wedded to the ttwonto— rwanda policy. they don't want tnt— rwanda policy. they don't want tnot teet— rwanda policy. they don't want tnot ttet to— rwanda policy. they don't want that just do the— rwanda policy. they don't want that just do the rwanda policy for that just do the rwanda policy tot tne— that just do the rwanda policy tot tne ente— that just do the rwanda policy for the sake of— that just do the rwanda policy for the sake of they it for the sake of it. they want it to te— for the sake of it. they want it to be to— for the sake of it. they want it to be to reduce— for the sake of it. they want it to be to reduce the number of otoeetng— to be to reduce the number of crossing channel— to be to reduce the number of crossing channel crossings here. tnt— crossing channel crossings here. ant tut— crossing channel crossings here. ant tut tnew— crossing channel crossings here. and but they want— crossing channel crossings here. and but they want fundamental oontnot— and but they want fundamental oontnot ot— and but they want fundamental control of our— and but they want fundamental control of our borders . they control of our borders. they went— control of our borders. they went te— control of our borders. they went te to — control of our borders. they want us to be— control of our borders. they want us to be able to decide who tnto— want us to be able to decide who comes into the— want us to be able to decide who comes into the country, how many tn ont— comes into the country, how many come in and when— comes into the country, how many come in and when they come in. net— come in and when they come in. tut tnew— come in and when they come in. tut tnew oteo— come in and when they come in. but they also want— come in and when they come in. but they also want britain to do its but they also want britain to do tte ttt— but they also want britain to do tte ttt to— but they also want britain to do its bit to stand— but they also want britain to do its bit to stand .for- but they also want britain to do its bit to stand for and its bit to stand up for and wetome— its bit to stand up for and welcome those- its bit to stand up for and welcome those who are in need. tnt— welcome those who are in need. ant-tnoee— welcome those who are in need. antltnoee tte— welcome those who are in need. and-those are the— welcome those who are in need. and those are the two kind of and so those are the two kind of oonttot— and so those are the two kind of control-exactly. _ and so those are the two kind of control exactly, taint.“ and so those are the two kind of control exactly. v/tt;ttt:�* �*fovtt;tt control and exactly. yeah. well, toot.— control and exactly. yeah. well, look, just don't don't look, they just don't they don't want be in swear word

want us to be in swear word here. right. and i think that's pretty think pretty straightforward. i think most feel that way. but most people feel that way. but if logged on to twitter if you just logged on to twitter or media, you be or social media, you would be forgiven thinking we forgiven for thinking that we were open borders were a nation of open borders loons. but the reality is, when you polling this, you do polling like this, realistically, people are broadly with us. stopping broadly happy with us. stopping the want to stop the the boats want to stop the boats. are morally boats. they are morally comfortable with sending people to rwanda , but they are morally to rwanda, but they are morally okay with that. is that is that fair for me to say? they are they are morally okay with us deporting people to rwanda, essentially. so deporting people to rwanda, essentially . so in the abstract, essentially. so in the abstract, mew-te— essentially. so in the abstract, tnew-te not— essentially. so in the abstract, they're not morally— so in the abstract, they're not morally against teponttng— they're not morally against deporting people to rwanda. the onottenge— deporting people to rwanda. the onottenge te— deporting people to rwanda. the challenge is about— deporting people to rwanda. the challenge is about who is tepontet— challenge is about who is tepontet to— challenge is about who is deported to rwanda . and that's deported to rwanda. and that's wttt— deported to rwanda. and that's wnot we— deported to rwanda. and that's what we found— deported to rwanda. and that's what we found in— deported to rwanda. and that's what we found in our polling mte— what we found in our polling tnte weet. — what we found in our polling this week. so— what we found in our polling this week. so the this week. so as the government's policy is at the mtntte.— government's policy is at the mtntte. tte— government's policy is at the minute, it's a— government's policy is at the minute, it's a blanket ban. antone— minute, it's a blanket ban. anyone-crosses- minute, it's a blanket ban.- anyone-crosses-channel anyone who crosses the channel is anyone who crosses the channel te—to— anyone who crosses the channel te—to ototm - anyone who crosses the channel is_to claim asylum.| is not entitled to claim asylum. hete— is not entitled to claim asylum. tee-wt— is not entitled to claim asylum. tee-wt ont— is not entitled to claim asylum. here-uk and will- is not entitled to claim asylum. here uk and will be here in the uk and will be tepontet— here in the uk and will be deported either— here in the uk and will be deported either to rwanda or or toot— deported either to rwanda or or toot to— deported either to rwanda or or toot to men— deported either to rwanda or or back to their own— deported either to rwanda or or back to their own country. and wttt— back to their own country. and wnot we — back to their own country. and what we found— back to their own country. and what we found from the public is met— what we found from the public is met tottottw— what we found from the public is that actually there _ what we found from the public is that actually there are some gnotpe— that actually there are some gnotpe ot— that actually there are some groups of people they think groups of people who they think enottt—getl should be getting should get a fair should be getting should get a tot-tn— should be getting should get a

totn-tn-ux- should be getting should get a tott-tn-ux .- should be getting should get a fair-in-uk . and. should be getting should get a fair-in-uk . and so| fair hearing in the uk. and so entttnen— fair hearing in the uk. and so ontttten tn— fair hearing in the uk. and so children in particular, they tntnt— children in particular, they tntnt tnot— children in particular, they think that they shouldn't be ttetotnet— think that they shouldn't be disbarred from _ think that they shouldn't be disbarred from from making an oewttm— disbarred from from making an oewttm ototm— disbarred from from making an asylum claim in— disbarred from from making an asylum claim in the uk or having tnetn— asylum claim in the uk or having tnett epee— asylum claim in the uk or having their case heard. _ asylum claim in the uk or having their case heard. women who are tteetng— their case heard. women who are fleeing persecution— their case heard. women who are fleeing persecution and victims of fleeing persecution and victims ot-etowew— fleeing persecution and victims ot-etowenw ont- fleeing persecution and victims of-slavery and a- fleeing persecution and victims of slavery and a series of modern slavery and a series of modern slavery and a series ot otnen— of modern slavery and a series ot otnen gnotpe— of modern slavery and a series of other groups and about half of other groups and about half ot tne— of other groups and about half ot tne ptttto— of other groups and about half of the public think that they enottt— of the public think that they should _from - of the public think that they should _from so should be exempt from that. so the should be exempt from that. so tne-oteo— should be exempt from that. so the-also think- should be exempt from that. so the also think that the but they also think that economic shouldn't the but they also think that- economic-shouldn't be economic migrants shouldn't be ottowet— economic migrants shouldn't be allowed-claim _ economic migrants shouldn't be allowed claim asylum in the allowed to claim asylum in the uk allowed to claim asylum in the ttx-tnew— allowed to claim asylum in the uk-they should- uk and so they should be enttttet— uk and so they should be entitled rwanda . uk and so they should be- entitled-rwanda . and so entitled to go to rwanda. and so you entitled to go to rwanda. and so wot-nee— entitled to go to rwanda. and so wot-nee tnt— entitled to go to rwanda. and so you here that there's you can see here that there's a ttnt— you can see here that there's a ttnt ot— you can see here that there's a ttnt ot-to— you can see here that there's a kind of-to the- you can see here that there's a kind of to the public kind of nuance to the public etppott— kind of nuance to the public etppontltnte. — kind of nuance to the public support this. and they're not support on this. and they're not oppoeet— support on this. and they're not oppoeet to— support on this. and they're not opposed to rwanda morally the opposed to rwanda morally in the abetted.— opposed to rwanda morally in the otetnoetltt— opposed to rwanda morally in the abstract,-it does— opposed to rwanda morally in the abstract, it does who abstract, but it does matter who wno— abstract, but it does matter who who we're talking— abstract, but it does matter who who we're talking about here. vent.— who we're talking about here. vent. toot.— who we're talking about here. yeah, look, exactly— who we're talking about here. yeah, look, exactly .- who we're talking about here. yeah, look, exactly . and- who we're talking about here. yeah, look, exactly . and i think yeah, look, exactly. and i think this is really reassuring stuff, actually, that i'm glad that you've to talk about it. you've come on to talk about it. because, look, think long because, look, i think as long as children dragged as children aren't dragged kicking and screaming onto a plane, separated their plane, separated from their parents africa, parents and sent to africa, which think anyone which i don't think anyone in their would wants, their right minds would wants, really, and if they do want that, they're probably not particularly okay. particularly nice person. okay. as happening as long as that's not happening and having border and we aren't having border control sending economic control and sending economic migrants on their way as a deterrent, then people seem all

right with that. i think so. thank you very much. conleth burns, who is the senior associate at in common, who associate at more in common, who did fantastic polling, did some fantastic polling, really stuff really insightful stuff actually, this scheme. actually, on this rwanda scheme. and to highlight and again, i want to highlight that do that that because i do think that if people just see what happens in social media or various social media or see various different virtue signalling celebrities be celebrities, you would be forgiven that you forgiven for thinking that you were a minority of people out were in a minority of people out there who maybe just wanted some pretty basic things tighter pretty basic things like tighter border and a serious border control and a serious deterrent. taking off to deterrent. planes taking off to rwanda. when the next time rwanda. and when the next time someone says to you, oh my gosh, you're horrible person, you're you're a horrible person, you're a for wanting a horrible person for wanting planes you can planes to go to rwanda, you can say, i'm not. i say, well, actually i'm not. i am most people. there's loads more to come between now and 6:00 i'm going to ask, is labour the only party capable hear me out on this of reforming the nhs? but first it is your latest headunes nhs? but first it is your latest headlines with polly middleton hirst . headlines with polly middleton hirst. patrick, headlines with polly middleton hirst . patrick, thank you. the hirst. patrick, thank you. the top— hirst. patrick, thank you. the top etottee— hirst. patrick, thank you. the top stories this— patrick, thank you. the top stories this hour. nurses wttt— top stories this hour. nurses wttt etoge— top stories this hour. nurses will stage another round of etnttee— will stage another round of strikes after— will stage another round of

strikes after rejecting a pay otten— strikes after rejecting a pay ottet ttom — strikes after rejecting a pay offer from the _ strikes after rejecting a pay offer from the government . royal offer from the government. royal cottege— offer from the government. royal cottege ot— offer from the government. royal college of nursing. members wotet— college of nursing. members voted against— college of nursing. members voted against a— college of nursing. members voted against a 5% pay rise. mte— voted against a 5% pay rise. tnte wetn— voted against a 5% pay rise. tnte ween oe— voted against a 5% pay rise. this year, as well as a cash payment— this year, as well as a cash payment tot— this year, as well as a cash payment for last— this year, as well as a cash payment for last year. the industrial— payment for last year. the industrial action running from the industrial action running from tne ewentng— industrial action running from the evening of— industrial action running from the evening of april 30th for 48 nowe— the evening of april 30th for 48 nowe wttt— the evening of april 30th for 48 hours, will involve— the evening of april 30th for 48 hours, will involve nurses in emengenow— hours, will involve nurses in emergency departments, intensive ont— emergency departments, intensive care and cancer care— emergency departments, intensive care and cancer care for the ttnet— care and cancer care for the ttnet ttne— care and cancer care for the first time, and— care and cancer care for the first time, and it— care and cancer care for the first time, and it follows an eottten— first time, and it follows an earlier announcement by unison that earlier announcement by unison tnot tte— earlier announcement by unison tnot tte wts— earlier announcement by unison that its nhs members had overwhelmingly voted to accept the overwhelmingly voted to accept tne eme— overwhelmingly voted to accept the same offer— overwhelmingly voted to accept the same offer .— overwhelmingly voted to accept the same offer. in— overwhelmingly voted to accept the same offer . in other news the same offer. in other news totow— the same offer. in other news totow to— the same offer. in other news today to serving— the same offer. in other news today to serving met police otttoete— today to serving met police officers have— today to serving met police officers have been dismissed over discriminatory messages tnew— over discriminatory messages tnew eent— over discriminatory messages tnew eent to— over discriminatory messages they sent to colleagues in a wnotexpp— they sent to colleagues in a whatsapp group, including some otott— whatsapp group, including some otott totte— whatsapp group, including some about katie price's disabled ttnet.— about katie price's disabled nonet- tt— about katie price's disabled son, harvey. a gross misconduct neottng— son, harvey. a gross misconduct neottng oteo— son, harvey. a gross misconduct hearing also found— son, harvey. a gross misconduct hearing also found that another six hearing also found that another etx tome— hearing also found that another six former officers— hearing also found that another six former officers would have teen— six former officers would have been dismissed— six former officers would have been dismissed without notice if tnew-t— been dismissed without notice if tnew-t etttt— been dismissed without notice if they'd still been— been dismissed without notice if they'd still been serving . they'd still been serving. speottng— they'd still been serving. speottng on— they'd still been serving. speaking on behalf of the force commander john— speaking on behalf of the force commander john saville opotogteet— commander john saville apologised to- commander john saville apologised to the price family, eowtng— apologised to the price family, eowtng ne— apologised to the price family, eowtng ne we— apologised to the price family, saying he was repulsed and tenemet— saying he was repulsed and tenemet .— saying he was repulsed and ashamed . and— saying he was repulsed and ashamed . and a mother and father ashamed. and a mother and father nowe— ashamed. and a mother and father nowe teen— ashamed. and a mother and father have been found— ashamed. and a mother and father have been found guilty of the

mtnent— have been found guilty of the mtnent ot— have been found guilty of the murder of their— have been found guilty of the murder of their baby son on cnttetmoe— murder of their baby son on christmas day— murder of their baby son on christmas day .— murder of their baby son on christmas day . stephen boden and christmas day. stephen boden and snonnon— christmas day. stephen boden and shannon marsden— christmas day. stephen boden and shannon marsden inflicted tepeotet— shannon marsden inflicted repeated acts— shannon marsden inflicted repeated acts of severe violence on o ten— repeated acts of severe violence on o ten montn— repeated acts of severe violence on a ten month old— repeated acts of severe violence on a ten month old baby boy oottet— on a ten month old baby boy called finlay,— on a ten month old baby boy called finlay, 71— on a ten month old baby boy called finlay, 71 bruises and 57 ttoottnee— called finlay, 71 bruises and 57 fractures were— called finlay, 71 bruises and 57 fractures were found on his totw. — fractures were found on his body- ttntow— fractures were found on his body. finlay had only been ptooet— body. finlay had only been ptoeet toot— body. finlay had only been placed back in— body. finlay had only been placed back in their care for 39 towe— placed back in their care for 39 tote tetote— placed back in their care for 39 days before he— placed back in their care for 39 days before he was killed , days before he was killed, teeptte— days before he was killed, despite social— days before he was killed, despite social workers asking for despite social workers asking tot o— despite social workers asking tot o tonget— despite social workers asking for a longer transition period . for a longer transition period. tnt— for a longer transition period. ant tne— for a longer transition period. ant tne us— for a longer transition period. and the us president has tetwnet— and the us president has returned to— and the us president has returned to his irish ancestral roote— returned to his irish ancestral noote .— returned to his irish ancestral noote . otntwtng— returned to his irish ancestral roots , arriving in— returned to his irish ancestral roots , arriving in county mayo. roots, arriving in county mayo. tte— roots, arriving in county mayo. tt-e tne— roots, arriving in county mayo. tt-e tne ttnet— roots, arriving in county mayo. it's the final day— roots, arriving in county mayo. it's the final day of his four day— it's the final day of his four to tntp— it's the final day of his four to tntp to— it's the final day of his four day trip to ireland , which the day trip to ireland, which the tome— day trip to ireland, which the former taoiseach, enda kenny eptt— former taoiseach, enda kenny eott we— former taoiseach, enda kenny eott tne— former taoiseach, enda kenny said was the longest presidential visit ever to the tetont— presidential visit ever to the tetont .— presidential visit ever to the island . president biden is island. president biden is expeotet— island. president biden is expeetet to— island. president biden is expected to make a private visit to tne— expected to make a private visit to tne weto— expected to make a private visit to the mayo roscommon hospice tnt— to the mayo roscommon hospice tnot we— to the mayo roscommon hospice that was dedicated— to the mayo roscommon hospice that was dedicated to his son, netw— that was dedicated to his son, teen wno— that was dedicated to his son, beau, who died— that was dedicated to his son, beau, who died of brain cancer in beau, who died of brain cancer tn zoo.— beau, who died of brain cancer tn zets. tw— beau, who died of brain cancer in 2015. tv online— beau, who died of brain cancer in 2015. tv online dab+ radio ont— in 2015. tv online dab+ radio ont on— in 2015. tv online dab+ radio ont on ttne— in 2015. tv online dab+ radio and on tune in.— in 2015. tv online dab+ radio and on tune in. this is gb news, tnttotn-e— and on tune in. this is gb news, ttttotn-e nee— and on tune in. this is gb news,

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possible because people are fed up wttn tne— possible because people are fed up with the present system? it's wottn— up with the present system? it's worth reminding— up with the present system? it's worth reminding everybody of some breaking— worth reminding everybody of some breaking news that dropped just some breaking news that dropped ttet o— some breaking news that dropped ttet o tew— some breaking news that dropped just a few moments ago, which is tnt— just a few moments ago, which is that emmanuel— just a few moments ago, which is that emmanuel macron has successfully— that emmanuel macron has successfully legally successfully managed legally to none— successfully managed legally to tne— successfully managed legally to raise the pension— successfully managed legally to raise the pension age in france trom— raise the pension age in france ttom oz— raise the pension age in france ttom oz to— raise the pension age in france ttom oz to et— raise the pension age in france from 62 to 64 nationwide ettttee— from 62 to 64 nationwide ettttee. tt— from 62 to 64 nationwide strikes. it got— from 62 to 64 nationwide strikes. it got a- from 62 to 64 nationwide strikes. it got a bit fruity weetentow. — strikes. it got a bit fruity weetentow. t— strikes. it got a bit fruity yesterday. i imagine it might ttot— yesterday. i imagine it might ttot ttgnt— yesterday. i imagine it might kick right off— yesterday. i imagine it might kick right off again this ewentng— kick right off again this ewentng tn— kick right off again this evening in paris. are evening in paris. we are monttottng— evening in paris. we are monitoring situation there monitoring the situation there etoeetw— monitoring the situation there closely-whether- monitoring the situation there closely whether the closely. but whether it's the ttenon — closely. but whether it's the french sticking _ closely. but whether it's the french sticking it to or french sticking it to macron or tonn— french sticking it to macron or totm te— french sticking it to macron or tonm te etepptng— french sticking it to macron or farm is stepping up in the netherlands— farm is stepping up in the netherlands or— farm is stepping up in the netherlands or the millions of disillusioned— netherlands or the millions of disillusioned voters in britain, ewenwwnete— disillusioned voters in britain, ewenwwnene wot — disillusioned voters in britain, everywhere you look , people everywhere you look, people tntnt— everywhere you look, people tntnt tnt— everywhere you look, people think that the _ everywhere you look, people think that the present system is totttng— think that the present system is totttng tnem— think that the present system is totttng tnem .— think that the present system is failing them . but— think that the present system is failing them . but why and what failing them. but why and what oottt— failing them. but why and what eottt possibly— failing them. but why and what could possibly replace it with me now is benjamin loughnane, wno— me now is benjamin loughnane, wno te— me now is benjamin loughnane, wno te o— me now is benjamin loughnane, who is a research— me now is benjamin loughnane, who is a research fellow at the tow— who is a research fellow at the tow troop.— who is a research fellow at the bow group. benjamin thank you went— bow group. benjamin thank you went mten.— bow group. benjamin thank you went mten. wow— bow group. benjamin thank you very much. now the issue in nome— very much. now the issue in ttonoe te— very much. now the issue in tn te not— very much. now the issue in france is not really just about tne— france is not really just about tne peneton— france is not really just about the pension reforms, is it? it's otott— the pension reforms, is it? it's otott tne— the pension reforms, is it? it's about the general— the pension reforms, is it? it's about the general agenda. i tntnt— about the general agenda. i tntnt ot— about the general agenda. i think of world— about the general agenda. i think of world leaders and i toot.— think of world leaders and i took: ton— think of world leaders and i look, for example, as joe biden tetng— look, for example, as joe biden tetng o— look, for example, as joe biden tetng o goot— look, for example, as joe biden being a good example of this, ntgnt— being a good example of this, ntgnt now— being a good example of this, ntgnt vot— being a good example of this, right now. you know, doing wnotewet— right now. you know, doing whatever the _ right now. you know, doing whatever the heck he's doing, entttttng— whatever the heck he's doing, shuffling around— whatever the heck he's doing, shuffling around the republic of tnetont. — shuffling around the republic of ireland. there's— shuffling around the republic of ireland. there's massive pnotteme— ireland. there's massive problems in— ireland. there's massive problems in his own i

problems in his own country. i know— problems in his own country. i know-mete— problems in his own country. i know .there-state- problems in his own country. i know there state visits know that there are state visits onotnt— know that there are state visits oonto— poet- know that there are state visits. around,_a push back around, but is there a push back to wnot— around, but is there a push back to wnot te— around, but is there a push back to wnot te o— around, but is there a push back to what is a perceived globalist ogento— to what is a perceived globalist ogento e — to what is a perceived globalist agenda ? yeah,— to what is a perceived globalist agenda ? yeah, i— to what is a perceived globalist agenda ? yeah, i do- to what is a perceived globalist agenda ? / gtt agenda? yeah, i do think so. but in the case of macron, it's not just about the pension. it's the fact that these reforms, which were controversial were quite controversial anyway, you you're turning around you know, you're turning around people been planning people who've been planning for their many years their retirement for many years and then gone and gone to and then he's gone and gone to these and sorry, these people and said, sorry, cancel your you're going cancel your plans. you're going to a few more years to have to work a few more years because say so. but the way he went it was extrajudicial. went about it was extrajudicial. he go through he didn't go through the parliament. _ he didn't go through the. parliament. _do he didn't go through the- parliament. _do it. parliament. he didn't do it. democrats there wasn't democrats hinckley there wasn't a or a vote. he a proper debate or a vote. he invoked what called article invoked what is called article 49.3 of the french constitution , which effectively is designed to prevent a deadlock in parliament. so if you have something like filibustering where the opposition are deliberately preventing a bill from through by tabling so from going through by tabling so many amendments that they'd neven many amendments that they'd never, dealt with and never, ever get dealt with and it would take forever to work with. have this as with. so you have this as basically last resort in the basically a last resort in the constitution to get a bill through . he went straight to it. through. he went straight to it. he didn't even try to have a debate or a discussion or a vote

or listen to what people's concerns were. he acted. many would say of these protests would say many of these protests would say many of these protests would say many of these protests would say like a dictator or a king, and he didn't have a revolution and chop the head off their that someone could their king so that someone could come republic and come along in the republic and act like one. yeah, indeed . is act like one. yeah, indeed. is this something that you- tttt t v/ttitt“ :: is this something that you see now wottonot— this something that you see now national governments not acting neoeeeonttw— national governments not acting necessarily-the _ national governments not acting necessarily the national necessarily in the national tnteteet.— necessarily in the national interest, prioritising global e— interest, prioritising global 7 so— interest, prioritising global issues ? so net— interest, prioritising global issues ? so net zero climate issues? so net zero climate monge— issues? so net zero climate change, prioritising being all ooew— change, prioritising being all eoew eoew— change, prioritising being all eoew eoew wttt— change, prioritising being all cosy, cosy with various supranational bodies as opposed to maybe— supranational bodies as opposed to maybe tnetn— supranational bodies as opposed to maybe their own workers when it to maybe their own workers when tt ome— to maybe their own workers when tt to— to maybe their own workers when it comes to things— to maybe their own workers when it comes to things as well, tte.— it comes to things as well, to woo— it comes to things as well, like, you know,— it comes to things as well, like, you know, tax hikes to pay tewtee— like, you know, tax hikes to pay tewtee on— like, you know, tax hikes to pay tewtee on o— like, you know, tax hikes to pay levies on a variety— like, you know, tax hikes to pay levies on a variety of different tntnge— levies on a variety of different tntnge tnot— levies on a variety of different things that affect— levies on a variety of different things that affect people nottonottw— things that affect people nationally and international oommtnttw— nationally and international community as— nationally and international community as opposed to their otttzene— community as opposed to their own citizens who _ community as opposed to their own citizens who get to vote on men. — own citizens who get to vote on men. te— own citizens who get to vote on men. tetnte— own citizens who get to vote on them. is this what— own citizens who get to vote on them. is this what people are getttng— them. is this what people are getttng op— them. is this what people are getttng op tn— them. is this what people are getting up in arms about now? tne— getting up in arms about now? tne tteo— getting up in arms about now? the idea that— getting up in arms about now? the idea that they are being led by on— the idea that they are being led by on ettte— the idea that they are being led by an elite cabal— the idea that they are being led by an elite cabal of people who openote— by an elite cabal of people who opetote ot— by an elite cabal of people who openote ot o— by an elite cabal of people who operate at a global level, not at operate at a global level, not ot o— operate at a global level, not at a national— operate at a global level, not at a national level. yeah so they— at a national level. yeah so they go— at a national level. yeah so they go ott— at a national level. yeah so they go ott to— at a national level. yeah so they go off to their- they go off to their international summits every yean international summits every year, whether it's places like cop or the g8 or the davos or

whatever it is. and they're given their marching orders. they agree on all of these things that they're going to do internationally in tandem with one it becomes very one another. but it becomes very difficult then go back one another. but it becomes very difyour: then go back one another. but it becomes very difyour country then go back one another. but it becomes very difyour country and hen go back one another. but it becomes very difyour country and try go back one another. but it becomes very difyour country and try and 3ack one another. but it becomes very difyour country and try and get to your country and try and get those laws through and you find that country that the people of your country aren't and you aren't actually too keen and you do live in a democracy and do still live in a democracy and they fight against it and they can fight against it and you can't move towards this sort of global movement of almost global movement towards policies when towards certain policies when you have troublesome nations with people like the english or the french who really do push back against these things and say, hang on minute, we don't say, hang on a minute, we don't really adopt a global really want to adopt a global idea. would quite like to idea. we would quite like to govern ourselves because we didn't fight so many wars and fight so many tyrants throughout history and constantly assert our right liberty to be told our right to liberty to be told what we're going to by some what we're going to do. by some small cabal of international elites who decide our policies for us. benjamin, thank you very mten. — for us. benjamin, thank you very mten. te-e— for us. benjamin, thank you very much. he's always— at benjamin, thank you very much. he's always strong stuff. i'd much. he's always strong stuff. t-t-to— much. he's always strong stuff. t-t-to-tt.— much. he's always strong stuff. i'd-to-it. benjamin. i'd love to see it. benjamin tootnew— i'd love to see it. benjamin lockney, who's— i'd love to see it. benjamin lockney, who's a- i'd love to see it. benjamin lockney, who's a research fellow at lockney, who's a research fellow ot-tow— lockney, who's a research fellow ot-tow troop.— lockney, who's a research fellow at bow group. right. at the bow group. right. okay. so at the bow group. right. okay. so wttt— at the bow group. right. okay. so wttn ttntot— at the bow group. right. okay. so with junior doctors about to ent—

so with junior doctors about to ent-tow— so with junior doctors about to end .four. stint- so with junior doctors about to end .four. stint on- so with junior doctors about to end four stint on the end their four day stint on the ptotet— end their four day stint on the ptetet ttnee— end their four day stint on the picket lines, nurses poised to tote— picket lines, nurses poised to tote tnett— picket lines, nurses poised to take their place. _ picket lines, nurses poised to take their place. that was the tneottng— take their place. that was the breaking news— take their place. that was the breaking news again, just bit breaking news again, just a bit eontten— breaking news again, just a bit eontten-tne— breaking news again, just a bit earlier-the royal- earlier on that the royal cottege— earlier on that the royal college nursing, 54% of a 61% college of nursing, 54% of a 61% turnout.— college of nursing, 54% of a 61% ttnnott. eo— college of nursing, 54% of a 61% turnout, so small— college of nursing, 54% of a 61% turnout, so small minority teottw— turnout, so small minority really nowe— turnout, so small minority really have said that they are going— really have said that they are gotng to— really have said that they are gotng to net-eet— really have said that they are going to reject the pay offer, wnen— going to reject the pay offer, wnton woe— going to reject the pay offer, which was 5%_ going to reject the pay offer, which was 5% pay offer plus a ott— which was 5% pay offer plus a ott temp— which was 5% pay offer plus a one off lump sum— which was 5% pay offer plus a one off lump sum cash payment . one off lump sum cash payment. they— one off lump sum cash payment. they neteetet— one off lump sum cash payment. they rejected that. _ one off lump sum cash payment. they rejected that. so they're going— they rejected that. so they're gotng to— they rejected that. so they're gotng to te— they rejected that. so they're going to be back— they rejected that. so they're going to be back out on strike on tne— going to be back out on strike on tne tetn— going to be back out on strike on the 30th of— going to be back out on strike on the 30th of april. this is on tne— on the 30th of april. this is on tne eme— on the 30th of april. this is on the same-that— on the 30th of april. this is on the same .that the- on the 30th of april. this is on the same that the unison the same day that the unison nurses union— the same day that the unison nurses union said— the same day that the unison nurses union said they were nurses union said that they were going— nurses union said that they were gotngloooept— nurses union said that they were gotngloeeept tne— nurses union said that they were going accept the pay offer. i going to accept the pay offer. i was wondering— going to accept the pay offer. i was wondering who can actually fix was wondering who can actually ttx ot— was wondering who can actually ttx wts— was wondering who can actually fix our nhs because it needs tetotm— fix our nhs because it needs tetotm tte— fix our nhs because it needs reform. it's not— fix our nhs because it needs reform. it's not world leading onmowoe— reform. it's not world leading anmovre . tte— reform. it's not world leading anymore . it's absolutely not. anymore. it's absolutely not. wewe— anymore. it's absolutely not. we-we got— anymore. it's absolutely not. wewe got eptt— anymore. it's absolutely not. we've got epic record levels of wotttng— we've got epic record levels of wotttng ttmee. — we've got epic record levels of waiting times. clearly, the peopte— waiting times. clearly, the peopte wno — waiting times. clearly, the people who are in it don't feel tte— people who are in it don't feel ttte tnew-te — people who are in it don't feel like they're paid— people who are in it don't feel like they're paid enough or wottet— like they're paid enough or valued enough,— like they're paid enough or valued enough, but the valued enough, but can the tottee—tt- valued enough, but can thei tories—it because tories actually do it because tte—cowe- tories actually do it because tte—cow? toi it's labour's sacred cow? to tneee— it's labour's sacred cow? to answer these important questions is answer these important questions te-ttowtew— answer these important questions te-ttowtew .— answer these important questions te-ttowtewwno-e- answer these important questions is-rowley , who's a- is charlie rowley, who's a tome— is charlie rowley, who's a former special— is charlie rowley, who's a former special adviser to tttonoet— former special adviser to tttonoet-.- former special adviser to michael . charlie, will it michael gove. charlie, will it nowe— michael gove. charlie, will it have-labour- michael gove. charlie, will it- have-labour-privatises have to be labour who privatises the have to be labour who privatises tne wts— have to be labour who privatises tne wtslwo— have to be labour who privatises the nhs \tif:t nobody needs have to be labour who privatises the nhs vtt:t nobody needs to the nhs? n0. nobody needs to pntwottee— the nhs? n0. nobody needs to pntwottee tne— the nhs? n0. nobody needs to privatise the nhs— the nhs? n0. nobody needs to privatise the nhs ,— the nhs? vtt:t nobody needs to privatise the nhs , but it does privatise the nhs, but it does

neet— privatise the nhs, but it does neet .— privatise the nhs, but it does neet . wot-te— privatise the nhs, but it does need . you're absolutely right. need. you're absolutely right. tne— need. you're absolutely right. tne tt.eotm — need. you're absolutely right. the reform. it— need. you're absolutely right. the reform. it needs better teetnotogw— the reform. it needs better teennotogw. tt— the reform. it needs better technology. it needs to bust the ontog— technology. it needs to bust the backlog, which _ technology. it needs to bust the backlog, which is— technology. it needs to bust the backlog, which is one of rishi snot— backlog, which is one of rishi sonot twe— backlog, which is one of rishi sunak five priorities, a backlog tnot— sunak five priorities, a backlog tnot woe— sunak five priorities, a backlog that was growing— sunak five priorities, a backlog that was growing before covid, it's that was growing before covid, tt-e tott— that was growing before covid, tt-e tott to— that was growing before covid, tt-e tott to eow— that was growing before covid, it's fair to say. but it's been exacerbated— it's fair to say. but it's been exacerbated covid. but what exacerbated by covid. but what you to— exacerbated by covid. but what you to tn— exacerbated by covid. but what you to tn onten— exacerbated by covid. but what you do in order to— exacerbated by covid. but what you do in order to beat that toottog— you do in order to beat that toottog te— you do in order to beat that backlog is make— you do in order to beat that backlog is make sure that you've gotlhappvt_ backlog is make sure that you've gotlhappyt healthy— backlog is make sure that you've got happy, healthy staff that got a happy, healthy staff that are got a happy, healthy staff that ore—not— got a happy, healthy staff that ore—tnot ore- are in the wards that are teottng— are in the wards that are dealing with— are in the wards that are dealing with those operations, mtnot— dealing with those operations, mtnotlmoton— dealing with those operations, minor major, that need to minor or major, that need to tote— minor or major, that need to tote ptooe. — minor or major, that need to take place. do— minor or major, that need to take place. do that under a nottoottw— take place. do that under a radically different system like the radically different system like tne-not— radically different system like tne-tnot o— radically different system like the-that a lot— radically different system like the-that a lot of- radically different system like the that a lot of these the one that a lot of these eton— the one that a lot of these etott now— the one that a lot of these staff now - are - the one that a lot of these staff now are happy to take staff now who are happy to take a staff now who are happy to take o-ttntet— staff now who are happy to take a-funded student- staff now who are happy to take a funded student loan a taxpayer funded student loan to-now— a taxpayer funded student loan to-now to— a taxpayer funded student loan to-how to _juniorl to train how to become junior toetote— to train how to become junior toetote oe— to train how to become junior doctors as-then- to train how to become junior doctors as then go and work doctors as they then go and work in doctors as they then go and work tn-ttte— doctors as they then go and work in - like australia - doctors as they then go and work in like australia and in places like australia and conoto— in places like australia and conoto-o— in places like australia and canada a system that rabid canada under a system that rabid tetttee— canada under a system that rabid tetttee wottt— canada under a system that rabid lefties would never— canada under a system that rabid lefties would never let us tmptement— lefties would never let us implement over here. well it's tott— implement over here. well it's tott to— implement over here. well it's tott to say— implement over here. well it's fair to say that— implement over here. well it's fair to say that the nhs needs eotnm— fair to say that the nhs needs reform because— fair to say that the nhs needs reform because in— fair to say that the nhs needs reform because in an ageing popttotton— reform because in an ageing popttotton tn— reform because in an ageing popttotton tn o— reform because in an ageing population, in a growing popttotton— population, in a growing population, it's inevitable that new-te— population, it's inevitable that tnew-ne teet— population, it's inevitable that they're just going to be more peopte— they're just going to be more peopte tnot— they're just going to be more people that need to use the nhs and people that need to use the nhs ont oe— people that need to use the nhs ont gotng— people that need to use the nhs and are going-rely— people that need to use the nhs and are going rely on so people that need to use the nhs an order going rely on so people that need to use the nhs an order toing rely on so people that need to use the nhs anorder to get rely on so people that need to use the nhs anorder to get peopletn so people that need to use the nhs anorder to get people in so people that need to use the nhs anorder to get people in and) in order to get people in and out— in order to get people in and ottlgttottw— in order to get people in and out-quickly as— in order to get people in and out quickly as possible to out as quickly as possible to get— out as quickly as possible to get tne— out as quickly as possible to get the medical— out as quickly as possible to get the medical care and ottentton— get the medical care and attention that— get the medical care and attention that they need, do attention that they need, you do neet — attention that they need, you doj neet need _ nurses. attention that they need, you do neet 7�*tifiit”tiil nurses. attention that they need, you do neet “tttttt; v/ttt. nurses. attention that they need, you do neet v/ttt irses. attention that they need, you do neet v/ttt you need more. you need more

trained out that trained people to carry out that particular work. but you also need technology. you also need better technology. you also need better technology. you also need to workforce that need to see a workforce that isn't going strike. the isn't going on strike. and the government, conservative government, this conservative government, you rightly government, as you rightly indicated, we've indicated, and is what we've heard today, has been able to negotiate union negotiate with unison one union and with the royal college of nursing. nurses nursing. but it's the nurses that voted sticking that have voted sticking plaster politics. we're to be here politics. we're going to be here ogotn—onen-t- again in a year or so, aren't wee— again in a year or so, aren't wee-meee- again in a year or so, aren't. wee-tneee-one again in a year or so, aren't- we?-these-are not we? because these people are not going— we? because these people are not gotng to— we? because these people are not gotng to te— we? because these people are not going to be happy— we? because these people are not going to be happy with the exact notte— going to be happy with the exact mtne-onet— going to be happy with the exact nature-offer that- going to be happy with the exact nature offer that they've nature of the offer that they've got. — nature of the offer that they've got. _teet— nature of the offer that they've got. feel overworked nature of the offer that they've got. underpaid feel overworked nature of the offer that they've got. underpaid feel under)rked nature of the offer that they've got. underpaid feel under valued. and underpaid and under valued. and and underpaid and under valued. ant t— and underpaid and under valued. ant t to— and underpaid and under valued. ant t to note— and underpaid and under valued. and i do have a— and underpaid and under valued. and i do have a limited amount of and i do have a limited amount ot—mtet- and i do have a limited amount ot—mtet tel of sympathy for that must be eott. — of sympathy for that must be eott. .tnete— of sympathy for that must be said.-there is— of sympathy for that must be said. there is some said. but there is some nonetheless, - said. but there is some nonetheless, and i just wonder wnetnet— nonetheless, and i just wonder wnetnen on— nonetheless, and i just wonder whether or not— nonetheless, and i just wonder whether or not it's going to tote—nonw- whether or not it's going to tote—nont tol whether or not it's going to. take—party to stand take the labour party to stand up take the labour party to stand tp-tete-e— take the labour party to stand- up-here's-wholesale up and go, here's some wholesale eottm— up and go, here's some wholesale eottm to— up and go, here's some wholesale eottm to tne— up and go, here's some wholesale reform to the nhs,— up and go, here's some wholesale reform to the nhs, because if tne— reform to the nhs, because if tne tottee— reform to the nhs, because if the tories did— reform to the nhs, because if the tories did it,— reform to the nhs, because if the tories did it, they'd all tntnt— the tories did it, they'd all think-you're- the tories did it, they'd all think you're well think that you're evil. well i tntnt— think that you're evil. well i tntnt tte— think that you're evil. well i think it's been— think that you're evil. well i think it's been a— think that you're evil. well i think it's been a problem between— think it's been a problem between the— think it's been a problem between the nhs and the peponment— between the nhs and the department of— between the nhs and the department of health over a number— department of health over a ntmtet ot— department of health over a number of years. let's not totget— number of years. let's not forget that the chief executive, the former chief executive of the former chief executive of the nhs, sir simon stevens, was a adviser to tony a former labour adviser to tony blair. so it's not a political vou— blair. so it's not a political you know.— blair. so it's not a political you know. tte— blair. so it's not a political you know, it's not- . so it's not a political you know, it's not a political toottott. — you know, it's not a political toottott. t— you know, it's not a political football. i mean,- you know, it's not a political football. i mean, i- you know, it's not a political football. :�* : :�* t football. i mean, i wouldn't want to weaponise the nhs. ed

want to weaponise the nhs. as ed miliband 2015, but it is miliband said in 2015, but it is about a tough about having a tough conversation to conversation with the public to say we be using our say we need to be using our pharmacy more, a lot more, as they do europe . you know, they do in europe. you know, going to see your gp or presenting yourself at a&e should be a last port of call, not resort. we need to not a first resort. we need to note — not a first resort. we need to note tntnt— not a first resort. we need to have think there's— �*7 we need to have think there's total have think there's a total mentot— have think there's a total mental block— have think there's a total mental block from people who won— mental block from people who won tn— mental block from people who won tn tne— mental block from people who work in the nhs— mental block from people who work in the nhs on any etggeetton— work in the nhs on any suggestion conservative has . suggestion a conservative has. wett— suggestion a conservative has. wett. t— suggestion a conservative has. wett. t tttnt— suggestion a conservative has. well, i think there— suggestion a conservative has. well, i think there is- suggestion a conservative has. well, i think there is for- suggestion a conservative has. well, i think there is for some strange reason, there does seem to be. i think , an idea that the to be. i think, an idea that the wts— to be. i think, an idea that the we te— to be. i think, an idea that the we te tn— to be. i think, an idea that the nhs is in better— i think, an idea that the nhs is in better hands with the tototn— nhs is in better hands with the totow nonw— nhs is in better hands with the labour party, but— nhs is in better hands with the labour party, but you can only nowe— labour party, but you can only nowe o— labour party, but you can only nowe o notw— labour party, but you can only have a fully functioning and ttntet— have a fully functioning and ttntet wts— have a fully functioning and funded nhs if— have a fully functioning and funded nhs if you have a strong eonomw— funded nhs if you have a strong eonomw ont— funded nhs if you have a strong economy and we— funded nhs if you have a strong economy and we know what happens with economy and we know what happens wttn tne— economy and we know what happens with the economy— economy and we know what happens with the economy if— economy and we know what happens with the economy if it's in tototn-e— with the economy if it's in labour's hands— with the economy if it's in labour's hands because i've met— labour's hands because i've tttet to— labour's hands because i've tried to thank— labour's hands because i've tried to thank you very much, oppneetote— tried to thank you very much, oppneetote wot— tried to thank you very much, appreciate you coming into the etotto. — appreciate you coming into the studio. really— appreciate you coming into the studio. really good- appreciate you coming into the studio. 7 g: studio. really good stuff that charlie rowley he's charlie rowley there, he's a former special to former special adviser to michael if you were michael gove. now if you were worried that you might need seven outside seven recycling bins outside your house, some very your house, i have some very good you . people have good news for you. people have some very good news for you. i'm

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channel plans now for a new recycling strategy. i promise you this story is more interesting than it sounds in england have been delayed until after the local elections. the government wants to provide seven bins for every household. now they've delayed it , mainly household. now they've delayed it, mainly because i think we can all agree that it's a bit nuts and a bit much. but here we go. public health professor dr. michael star joins me go. public health professor dr. michael starjoins me now. thank you very much. to great have you on the show. so do you think that we should be doing more in this country to have things like seven recycling bins outside of our house? i don't think the pubuc our house? i don't think the public will go for it. it's a very bad idea . public will go for it. it's a very bad idea. and public will go for it. it's a very bad idea . and the reason very bad idea. and the reason behind this is that it's in practise local and there will never be compliance , full never be compliance, full compliance from the general

pubuc compliance from the general public for this. and it's inefficient— public for this. and it's inefficient and- public for this. and it's inefficient and it's- tt and it's inefficient and it's compared public for this. and it's- inefficient and it's compared to mtxet— inefficient and it's compared to mtxet weoet— inefficient and it's compared to mixed waste. kyiv_ inefficient and it's compared to mixed waste. kyiv collection ttom — mixed waste. kyiv collection ttom teet— mixed waste. kyiv collection tnom ttet one— mixed waste. kyiv collection from just one bin. t t from just one bin. it it's a woete— from just one bin. it it's a woete ot— from just one bin. it it's a waste of money and it exaggerates its environmental problems . as for many reasons. problems. as for many reasons. why does it make environmental ptotteme— why does it make environmental problems worse— why does it make environmental problems worse ? _ why does it make environmental problems worse ? �*fovtt;tt t problems worse? well, because because when you organise on site collection from seven bins, you need a lot of kilometres is a from a from heavy trucks to collect the garbage compared to a scheme when you only collect mixed waste it. and this is only a mixed waste it. and this is only o emott— mixed waste it. and this is only a small small— mixed waste it. and this is only a small small problem- ,xttn: c and this is only a small small problem compared to tnte— a small small problem compared to ttnte woete— a small small problem compared to this waste incident rotation

eneme— to this waste incident rotation scheme which _ to this waste incident rotation scheme which is— to this waste incident rotation scheme which is environmentally etpettot— scheme which is environmentally etpenton teeote— scheme which is environmentally superior because if— scheme which is environmentally superior because if you rely on tnte— superior because if you rely on this scandinavian— superior because if you rely on this scandinavian and scandinavian incineration etnotegw— scandinavian incineration strategy taoiseach you would put woete — strategy taoiseach you would put woete ttteottw— strategy taoiseach you would put waste directly into— strategy taoiseach you would put waste directly into oven and ptottee— waste directly into oven and produce electricity and heat . produce electricity and heat. tnt— produce electricity and heat. ant tntn— produce electricity and heat. ant ttte te— produce electricity and heat. and this is much— produce electricity and heat. and this is much more- produce electricity and heat. and this is much more efficient compared to collecting waste from several bins to produce. for example , energy, which needs for example, energy, which needs energy— for example, energy, which needs energy to— for example, energy, which needs energy to pnotte— for example, energy, which needs energy to produce these energy tnptte— energy to produce these energy tnptte ttom — energy to produce these energy inputs from waste— energy to produce these energy inputs from waste . different inputs from waste. different woete— inputs from waste. different waste streams— inputs from waste. different waste streams .— inputs from waste. different waste streams . okay, michael , waste streams. okay, michael, tnont— waste streams. okay, michael, tnont wot— waste streams. okay, michael, tnont you went— waste streams. okay, michael, thank you very much. ti. thank you very much. mikko star thee.— thank you very much. mikko star there, who's public health professor, dr. mikko bengio. so thank you very much. great to have you on the show. sorry something's just tickle me there. right. there. but there we go. right. okay. i'm just going to delve okay. so i'm just going to delve into the inbox now. gb views. gb

news. .uk okay. yeah, loads of people getting in touch about the recycling there . what? the recycling there. what? absolute rubbish. can't have absolute rubbish. i can't have seven bins household. i seven bins per household. i can't drive my car around. that's. that's charles. maybe this part a plan. this is part of a bigger plan. charles to actually stop us all from everywhere from driving everywhere and blocking the roads with it. you don't think it's madness because the bins are going to be made out of plastic anyway? probably. the bins are going to be made out tthenistic anyway? probably. the bins are going to be made out tthenistic a also y? probably. the bins are going to be made out tthenistic a also going 3ably. the bins are going to be made out tthenistic a also going t0ily. the bins are going to be made out tthenistic a also going to end and then we're also going to end up different up having to see different delivery collection services up having to see different de|every collection services up having to see different de|every singlellection services up having to see different de|every singlellecti continue as on every single day, continue trips the tip. and know trips to the tip. and you know what's really to happen. what's really going to happen. you're going to end up with a load of people either load of people who either deliberately more deliberately or more likely accidentally with accidentally can't keep up with what what bin and where. what goes in what bin and where. and they put the wrong stuff and so they put the wrong stuff in then you get in the bin. and then you get fined, don't you? or they don't take rubbish out. so you take your rubbish out. so you have own way the have to make your own way to the tip. just say as well what tip. can i just say as well what does like? does your kitchen look like? because mine i've got bin, because mine i've got a bin, i've got a recycling bit. don't really use it to be honest, but i've got a and a recycling i've got a bin and a recycling bin. i then had to have a bin. if i then had to have a separate for green stuff, i separate bin for green stuff, i then had to have a separate bin

for ten, for glass, for metal , for ten, for glass, for metal, for ten, for glass, for metal, for whatever kitchen, just for whatever your kitchen, just because comes a dump doesn't say it very small series, almost like dump of stuff. but like a bonsai dump of stuff. but there we go. i just don't see how on earth that's going to work. of reaction as well, work. lots of reaction as well, of to the new of course, to the new information that's come through about of about the royal college of nurses. are going on nurses. they are going on strike. college strike. royal college of nursing. say, nursing. i should say, them going strike april the going on strike from april the 30th. covid mackenzie was on earlier. of you actually earlier. a lot of you actually are him and are in agreement with him and just realistically just saying that realistically they now in all just saying that realistically thtthis now in all just saying that realistically thtthis . now in all just saying that realistically thtthis . how now in all just saying that realistically thtthis . how on now in all just saying that realistically thtthis . how on cani in all just saying that realistically thtthis . how on can they ll of this. how on earth can they justify when such a small justify it when such a small percentage of the entire nursing community voted to community has actually voted to go on strike? with me now in the studio michelle dewberry, studio is michelle dewberry, who's coming up next with dewbs & and i understand you're & co and i understand you're going to have a fantastic show going to have a fan tastic show lined up. oh, do you? why? who's been lined up. oh, do you? why? who's teen wntepentng— lined up. oh, do you? why? who's been whispering in— lined up. oh, do you? why? who's been whispering in-ear? - been whispering in your ear? wett— been whispering in your ear? wett. .teott — been whispering in your ear? well,-heard he's- been whispering in your ear? well,-heard he's on- been whispering in your ear? well,-heard he's on me.l been whispering in your ear? . well,-heard he's on me. the well, i've heard he's on me. the show . yeah, me yours. yeah. but show. yeah, me yours. yeah. but you've got guests. oh, sorry. i tnotgnt— you've got guests. oh, sorry. i tnotgnt wow— gt g oh, sorry. i thought your excitement. i tnotgnt— thought your excitement. i tnotgnt won— thought your excitement. i thought your excitement. i thought your excitement was that you thought your excitement was that wot—tnt- thought your excitement was that wot—ttet me.- thought your excitement was that wot—ttet tttl you meant. it was just me. but tte— you meant. it was just me. but tt-e not.— you meant. it was just me. but tt-e not. te— you meant. it was just me. but tt-e not. te tte— you meant. it was just me. but it's not, is it? you're talking otott— it's not, is it? you're talking otott mt— it's not, is it? you're talking otott my new— it's not, is it? you're talking about my new panellists. am about my new panellists. i am ttetoe. — about my new panellists. i am fierce. _exciting.- fierce. yeah, very exciting. i'm

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way now with dewbs& co. please get-on. nette— way now with dewbs& co. please get-air. hello there. - get me off air. hello there. welcome to your weather update. i'm claire nasir. for the rest of friday. it's showery outside and feeling rather cool. temperatures are yet again depressed . low pressure never depressed. low pressure never too far away . this one towards too far away. this one towards the south is sliding down towards the low countries, but still producing some outbreaks of rain and other showery bursts. just moving very slowly across the country. winds across much of england and wales up towards scotland and northern ireland, away from the far south, a fairly light now through evening and through this evening and overnight, this rain becomes confined eastern areas . confined to more eastern areas. some heavy towards the some heavy pulses towards the far south—east, clearer skies further , allowing for further west, allowing for a frost, particularly across scotland and northern ireland. a bit breeze across wales bit more breeze across wales and the keeping the west country, keeping temperatures slightly higher and it be a damp start to the it will be a damp start to the day. first thing on saturday morning across the south morning across the far south this slides away very this rain slides away very quickly. elsewhere, it's a bright morning. it's a crisp one, chilly outside , but at one, chilly outside, but at least, though, you'll see some sunshine now through the day , sunshine now through the day, improving across eastern counties . the cloud will break counties. the cloud will break up and that will spark 1 or 2

showers as the sun gets to work through afternoon. they through the afternoon. they could heavy east could turn heavy across east anglia weather, further anglia brighter weather, further west, drier conditions , blue sky west, drier conditions, blue sky before the cloud thickens from the west. later, the far west. later, temperatures typically temperatures then typically around 15 or 16 celsius, certainly a few degrees higher than few days. now than the last few days. now through saturday evening and overnight, cloud fades away towards the east. cloud thickens further west and see some outbreaks of rain just clipping northern ireland and western scotland. perhaps the isle of man. here will man. temperatures here will be slightly higher into sunday morning, a bit of a chilly morning, but a bit of a chilly start to the day. further east. but you should see some brighter weather coming legacy weather coming through. a legacy of and going of cloud coming and going through on sunday. so through the day on sunday. so not as bright for most. and again , we'll see some damp again, we'll see some damp conditions , particularly across conditions, particularly across the western highlands through the western highlands through the afternoon later on, though, the afternoon later on, though, the sun will come through across the sun will come through across the far north of scotland, far south—east england. and the far north of scotland, far south-your england. and the far north of scotland, far south-your outlookand. and the far north of scotland, far south-your outlook through the here's your outlook through the next you next few days. i'll see you later. bye .

coming up tonight , the royal coming up tonight, the royal college of nursing have confirmed that its members have rejected their 5% pay offer, of course, including . additionally course, including. additionally as well, a bonus. course, including. additionally as well, a bonus . what do you as well, a bonus. what do you make to that? it basically means strikes will happen again . or is strikes will happen again. or is that the right decision? are they simply holding out for their worth or are they being greedy? your thoughts on that and in this country? 5 million of us apparently have diabetes, 90, thereabouts, of which is type two, which many blame on

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