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nurses working in emergency departments, intensive care and cancer care . it follows an cancer care. it follows an earlier announcement by unison that its nhs members had overwhelmingly accepted the same offer. paediatr nurse olivia princewill told gb news she thinks the government could have offered more in junior doctors worked for incredibly long hours so the nurses in conditions that are absolutely ridiculous to them come to work and be happy with the job. okay, that's not even safe for— with the job. okay, that's not even safe for the— okay, that's not even safe for the patient. so nnat— even safe for the patient. so nnat were— even safe for the patient. so what we're trying to do here, ant— what we're trying to do here, ant .— what we're trying to do here, and i believe— what we're trying to do here, and i believe that's what ereenen— and i believe that's what eeoryne te— and i believe that's what everyone is trying to achieve, is everyone is trying to achieve, te to— everyone is trying to achieve, te to a— everyone is trying to achieve, is come to a situation where tnere— is come to a situation where tnere te— is come to a situation where tnere to a— is come to a situation where tnere to a eon— is come to a situation where there is a sort of— is come to a situation where there is a sort of agreement detneen— there is a sort of agreement detneen ae— there is a sort of agreement between us nurses, the junior doctors— between us nurses, the junior toetore ant— between us nurses, the junior doctors and also— between us nurses, the junior doctors and also the government to teet— doctors and also the government to teet ute— doctors and also the government to feel like when— doctors and also the government to feel like when you're going to feel like when you're going to—eate- to feel like when you're going to—eate . - to feel like when you're going to—eate . n- to feel like when you're going. to_safe . a mother to work, you're safe. a mother ant— to work, you're safe. a mother and a— to work, you're safe. a mother and a father have been found guilty of murdering their baby son on christmas day. stephen boden and shannon marsden inflicted repeated acts of severe violence on their ten month old baby boy , finley. he'd month old baby boy, finley. he'd only been placed back in their care for 39 days before he was

killed . and despite social killed. and despite social workers asking for a longer transition period, a child safeguarding review has now been launched. safeguarding review has now been launched . french lawmakers have launched. french lawmakers have today voted in favour of raising the pension age in the country from 60 to 64. protests have been gathering in front of city hall in paris to voice their opposition to the government's decision. there's been some trouble tonight with some vehicles on fire as well as president macron's pension reform triggered weeks of protests right across the country. the new legislation , country. the new legislation, which was given the go ahead by france's constitutional council , will be implemented from the 1st of september. however union leaders have said that if macron enacts the pension law , no union enacts the pension law, no union leader will engage further talks with him . now, the us president with him. now, the us president has been brought to tears after a chance meeting at an irish church with the priest who performed the last rites on his son beau . father frank o'grady

son beau. father frank o'grady performed the sacrament for beau biden, who died of brain cancer in 2015. the president visited knock shrine in county mayo as part of his final day of engagement. it brings mr. biden's four day trip to ireland to a close which the former taoiseach, enda kenny, called the longest presidential visit ever to the island . and just ever to the island. and just lastly, a european rocket is on its way to jupiter right now for point 1 billion its way to jupiter right now for point1 billion miles away to point 1 billion miles away to explore whether or not it can support life . it's going to take support life. it's going to take more than eight years for the six tonne spacecraft called juice to get there . it's going juice to get there. it's going to spend around three years using instruments to investigate whether the planet's three moons can support life in its oceans. it's a £14 billion mission, and if all goes well, juice should reach jupiter by july 2031. you're up to date on tv online dab+ radio, and on the tunein

app. this is gb news. britain's news . news. channel i want to talk news. channel- . i want to talk to you cnannet— . i want to talk to you about - i want to talk to you about joe dtten. trot— - i want to talk to you about joe biden. first-all,— - i want to talk to you about joe biden. first-all, joe— - i want to talk to you about joe biden. first-all, joe biden,- biden. first of all, joe biden, he biden. first of all, joe biden, ne tron-t— biden. first of all, joe biden, he didn't have— biden. first of all, joe biden, he didn't have much time for he didn't have as much time for dntatn— he didn't have as much time for drttatn ae— he didn't have as much time for drttatn ae ne— he didn't have as much time for britain as he did— he didn't have as much time for britain as he did for ireland. were— britain as he did for ireland. we've seen newsreels there in dattettne— we've seen newsreels there in dattettne .— we've seen newsreels there in our bulletins. he— we've seen newsreels there in our bulletins. he didn't fly the anon— our bulletins. he didn't fly the tact— our bulletins. he didn't fly the tact on— our bulletins. he didn't fly the union jack on the— our bulletins. he didn't fly the union jack on the beast. the us dreettent-e— union jack on the beast. the us president's cadillac. but he did— president's cadillac. but he art, ot— president's cadillac. but he did, of course— president's cadillac. but he did, of course ,_ president's cadillac. but he did, of course , fly the irish did, of course, fly the irish tag.— did, of course, fly the irish ttag. ne— did, of course, fly the irish ttag. ne nat— did, of course, fly the irish flag. he had time or two for a eettte— flag. he had time or two for a eettte or— flag. he had time or two for a selfie or two— flag. he had time or two for a selfie or two with— flag. he had time or two for a selfie or two with an alleged rnernetr— selfie or two with an alleged rnernetr ot— selfie or two with an alleged member of the— selfie or two with an alleged member of the ira, the former stnn— member of the ira, the former stnn tern— member of the ira, the former sinn fein leader— member of the ira, the former sinn fein leader gerry adams , sinn fein leader gerry adams, ant— sinn fein leader gerry adams, ant ne— sinn fein leader gerry adams, ant ne mate— sinn fein leader gerry adams, and he made a— sinn fein leader gerry adams, and he made a demand to the denoeratte— and he made a demand to the democratic unionist party, meter— democratic unionist party, ulster unionists, who are yet to agree— ulster unionists, who are yet to agree to— ulster unionists, who are yet to agree to restore— ulster unionists, who are yet to agree to restore power sharing at stornont— agree to restore power sharing at stormont to _ agree to restore power sharing at stormont to get back to the daetneee— at stormont to get back to the taetneee ot— at stormont to get back to the business of government. quite why— business of government. quite

why .— business of government. quite an , tnoatn— business of government. quite why , though they should listen why, though they should listen to dot — why, though they should listen to dot ott— why, though they should listen to dodi old joe— why, though they should listen to dodi old joe and sinn fein is totatty— to dodi old joe and sinn fein is totally beside— to dodi old joe and sinn fein is totally beside me— to dodi old joe and sinn fein is totally beside me because it's pretty— totally beside me because it's pretty neat— totally beside me because it's pretty clear for— totally beside me because it's pretty clear for ladies and tente— pretty clear for ladies and tente tnat— pretty clear for ladies and gents that sleepy joe, who's ttntet— gents that sleepy joe, who's ttntet to — gents that sleepy joe, who's linked to ireland, is about as strong— linked to ireland, is about as strong ae— linked to ireland, is about as etront as no— linked to ireland, is about as strong as my own link to tretant. — strong as my own link to ireland. and— strong as my own link to ireland. and you don't hear me, trott— ireland. and you don't hear me, wolf rhiannon— ireland. and you don't hear me, wolf rhiannon about it. every two— wolf rhiannon about it. every two eeeonet — wolf rhiannon about it. every two seconds. he's— wolf rhiannon about it. every two seconds. he's guided by a reatty— two seconds. he's guided by a really virulent— two seconds. he's guided by a really virulent anti british eenttnent— really virulent anti british sentiment, and it's led to him tarntnt— sentiment, and it's led to him tarntnt tonn— sentiment, and it's led to him turning down an— sentiment, and it's led to him turning down an invitation to his turning down an invitation to are majesty,— turning down an invitation to his majesty, the— turning down an invitation to his majesty, the king's coronation,— his majesty, the king's coronation, an event that hasn't naooenet— coronation, an event that hasn't happened etnee— coronation, an event that hasn't happened since the 1950s. it's a ntrotat— happened since the 1950s. it's a pivotal moment— happened since the 1950s. it's a pivotal moment in— happened since the 1950s. it's a pivotal moment in the rich tapestry— pivotal moment in the rich tapestry tnat— pivotal moment in the rich tapestry that is— pivotal moment in the rich tapestry that is our nation's ntstory.— tapestry that is our nation's ntstory. a— tapestry that is our nation's history. a history, of course , history. a history, of course, snanet— history. a history, of course, shaped through— history. a history, of course, shaped through the stories of knots— shaped through the stories of ttnts ant— shaped through the stories of kings and queens . we in the uk kings and queens. we in the uk tttn-t— kings and queens. we in the uk tttn-t vote— kings and queens. we in the uk didn't vote for— kings and queens. we in the uk didn't vote for the— kings and queens. we in the uk didn't vote for the waikerie and notery— didn't vote for the waikerie and notery ot— didn't vote for the waikerie and wokery of biden's— didn't vote for the waikerie and wokery of biden's democrats . we wokery of biden's democrats. we votet— wokery of biden's democrats. we votet tor— wokery of biden's democrats. we were voted for for— wokery of biden's democrats. we were voted for for brexit boris ant— were voted for for brexit boris ant tor— were voted for for brexit boris ant tor tott— were voted for for brexit boris and for bold action that tettvers— and for bold action that delivers for— and for bold action that delivers for britain as vice

dresttent— delivers for britain as vice president in— delivers for britain as vice president in 2015, joe biden sart— president in 2015, joe biden satt tnat— president in 2015, joe biden said that no— president in 2015, joe biden said that no one— president in 2015, joe biden said that no one wearing orange , said that no one wearing orange a , said that no one wearing orange , a colour associated with dtster-s— , a colour associated with ulster's unionists, would be weeornte— ulster's unionists, would be weeornte tn— ulster's unionists, would be welcome in the— ulster's unionists, would be welcome in the white house. he retereneet— welcome in the white house. he referenced beating— welcome in the white house. he referenced beating the british ant,— referenced beating the british antt, tne— referenced beating the british unit, the black— referenced beating the british unit, the black and tans from tne— unit, the black and tans from tne tnsn— unit, the black and tans from the irish independence war tnsteat— the irish independence war tnsteat ot— the irish independence war instead of new— the irish independence war instead of new zealand's all tracks— instead of new zealand's all dtaets a— instead of new zealand's all blacks, a gaffe— instead of new zealand's all blacks, a gaffe or a deliberate, orovoeattve— blacks, a gaffe or a deliberate, provocative action _ blacks, a gaffe or a deliberate, provocative action for against the provocative action for against tne drtttsn. — provocative action for against the british. now,— provocative action for against the british. now, throughout his tenttny— the british. now, throughout his tengtny career— the british. now, throughout his lengthy career and of course his tone— lengthy career and of course his tone ate— lengthy career and of course his tone ttte .— lengthy career and of course his tone ttte , tn— lengthy career and of course his tone ttte , tn ny— lengthy career and of course his long life , in my view, biden has long life, in my view, biden has ttrnty— long life, in my view, biden has ttrnty stack— long life, in my view, biden has firmly stuck two— long life, in my view, biden has firmly stuck two fingers up to the firmly stuck two fingers up to tne drtttsn — firmly stuck two fingers up to the british crown— firmly stuck two fingers up to the british crown to our nation, to oa— the british crown to our nation, to voters— the british crown to our nation, to voters .— the british crown to our nation, to our voters , and— the british crown to our nation, to our voters , and actually to our voters, and actually soatnt— to our voters, and actually soatnt to— to our voters, and actually sought to besmirch our history , sought to besmirch our history, aetaatty— sought to besmirch our history, actually making— sought to besmirch our history, actually making comparisons detveen— actually making comparisons between northern ireland and the israel—palestine— between northern ireland and the israel—palestine conflict . in my israel—palestine conflict. in my vtevv— israel—palestine conflict. in my ne— israel—palestine conflict. in my ne ts— israel—palestine conflict. in my view, he is absolutely no friend of view, he is absolutely no friend ot tne— view, he is absolutely no friend of the british— view, he is absolutely no friend of the british people to this tay. — of the british people to this tay. .— of the british people to this tay. r nave— of the british people to this day. i have the— of the british people to this day. cit" of the british people to this- day. i have the shamrock on it. this was given to me by one of

these guys right here was a hell of a rugby player and they beat the hell of a black and tans. god but but it was when you were a soldier field, wasn't it.7 gang chicago and after it was all over , he gave my brother for over, he gave my brother for allegedly for me. but if it wasn't, i still took it. i still got the tie. i wear it with great pride. and so thank you all for the homecoming. welcome the bad news for all of you is we'll be back. there's no way to keep us out. but thank you. thank you. thank you . what do thank you. thank you. what do you reckon .7 deliberate- thank you. thank you. what do you reckon .7 deliberate or- what do you reckon .7 deliberate or not.7 you reckon? deliberate or not.7 deaase— you reckon? deliberate or not.7 deaase .— you reckon? deliberate or not? because i think— you reckon? deliberate or not? because i think folks ultimately a ttttte— because i think folks ultimately a ttttte ttt— because i think folks ultimately a little bit like— because i think folks ultimately a little bit like that infamous scene in love— a little bit like that infamous scene in love actually , in which scene in love actually, in which the scene in love actually, in which tne drtne— scene in love actually, in which the prime minister— scene in love actually, in which the prime minister stands up to the prime minister stands up to tne anertean— the prime minister stands up to the american bully that comes to dovntnt— the american bully that comes to dovntnt street. — the american bully that comes to downing street. i— the american bully that comes to downing street. i hope that aetaatty— downing street. i hope that aetaatty tne — downing street. i hope that actually the unionists in drttatn— actually the unionists in britain continue to stand up for our britain continue to stand up for oeoate— britain continue to stand up for people over— britain continue to stand up for our people over katawan in fear

to a— our people over katawan in fear to a tame— our people over katawan in fear to a lame duck— our people over katawan in fear to a lame duck president that nas— to a lame duck president that has weakened— to a lame duck president that has weakened the west and emboldened— has weakened the west and emboldened the woke . as always, emboldened the woke. as always, tnoatn— emboldened the woke. as always, tnoatn .— emboldened the woke. as always, tnoagn . vant— emboldened the woke. as always, though, i want to— emboldened the woke. as always, though, i want to hear your tnoatnts. — though, i want to hear your tnoatnts. do— though, i want to hear your thoughts. do you reckon dresttent— thoughts. do you reckon president biden is anti—british 7 president biden is anti—british e tnat— president biden is anti—british e tnatt en— president biden is anti—british ? email gb views— president biden is anti—british ? email gb views at gb news .uk or ? email gb views at gb news .uk dr tweet— ? email gb views at gb news .uk dr tveet ne— ? email gb views at gb news .uk dr tveet me at— ? email gb views at gb news .uk or tweet me at gb— ? email gb views at gb news .uk or tweet me at gb news. now joe dtten— or tweet me at gb news. now joe dtten nas— or tweet me at gb news. now joe biden has been— or tweet me at gb news. now joe biden has been doing the rounds of biden has been doing the rounds ot tne— biden has been doing the rounds of the emerald— biden has been doing the rounds of the emerald isle, as we've nenttonet— of the emerald isle, as we've mentioned already this week, vnten— mentioned already this week, vnten appears— mentioned already this week, which appears to _ mentioned already this week, which appears to have been overshadowed _ which appears to have been overshadowed by gaffes as well as teats.— overshadowed by gaffes as well as teats. ne-s— overshadowed by gaffes as well as leaks. he's talked about the uk as leaks. he's talked about the tat neettnt— as leaks. he's talked about the tat neettnt to— as leaks. he's talked about the uk needing to work closer with tretant— uk needing to work closer with ireland because— uk needing to work closer with ireland because we're having atreaty— ireland because we're having already apparently . and joining already apparently. and joining me already apparently. and joining ne to— already apparently. and joining me now to discuss this vital toots— me now to discuss this vital tonte ts— me now to discuss this vital topic is robert— me now to discuss this vital topic is robert wiener, former spokesman— topic is robert wiener, former spokesman for— topic is robert wiener, former spokesman for the clinton and deorte— spokesman for the clinton and deorte w— spokesman for the clinton and oeorte vv dasn— spokesman for the clinton and george w bush administrations. toten— george w bush administrations. totert tnant— george w bush administrations. robert thank you _ george w bush administrations. robert thank you very much for yoar— robert thank you very much for yoar tne— robert thank you very much for yoar ttne .— robert thank you very much for yoar ttne . nov,— robert thank you very much for your time . now, robert, the your time. now, robert, the teens;— your time. now, robert, the teettnt tnat— your time. now, robert, the feeling that we— your time. now, robert, the feeling that we have over here is feeling that we have over here ts tnat— feeling that we have over here ts tnat dtten— feeling that we have over here is that biden doesn't really ute— is that biden doesn't really like britain— is that biden doesn't really like britain .— is that biden doesn't really like britain . what say you ? like britain. what say you? lawrence it's— like britain. what say you? lawrence it's so- like britain. what say you? lawrence it's so great to be

vttn— lawrence it's so great to be an yoa— lawrence it's so great to be an yoa aeatn— lawrence it's so great to be with you again and thank you for navtnt— with you again and thank you for navtnt — with you again and thank you for navtne dat— with you again and thank you for having me. but i— with you again and thank you for having me. but i got- with you again and thank you for having me. grit having me. but i got to tell you, that's such nonsense. yeah, he hates britain so much that before he went over to ireland, he with the british he had tea with the british prime so it's just a prime minister so it's just a lot of hooey . britain is lot of hooey. britain is our best ally, but let me just tell you something else . every you something else. every president goes to where his family roots were. obama went to africa and kenya. biden goes to ireland. trump goes to new york, and they're still taking his name off the buildings and they're yelling new york hates trump as he goes by erg and he can't get any protesters to show up can't get any protesters to show up to follow his cars . but the up to follow his cars. but the point is, every president goes to where his roots are , and he to where his roots are, and he is having the blast of a lifetime. your headlines are correct. biden joyce has one papen correct. biden joyce has one paper. biden meets his ancestral roots is another papers, headlines. but you know what the america is doing ? this is page america is doing? this is page 13 of the washington post where you finally get to biden visits belfast to mark good . friday

belfast to mark good. friday accord 25th page 13. and it has a great and analytical story and it talks about all the pros and cons and how . the peace cons and how. the peace agreement which, by the way , agreement which, by the way, they never mentioned that george mitchell, who i hosted at the national press club, was instrumental in negotiating that. but they never they never get to everything that you guys are talking about that he hates britain . of course he doesn't britain. of course he doesn't hate britain. we love britain. so, robert, then what do you say to dntontst— so, robert, then what do you say to unionist communities who see joe to unionist communities who see roe dtten— to unionist communities who see joe biden making— to unionist communities who see joe biden making a joke about the joe biden making a joke about tne dtaet— joe biden making a joke about the black and— joe biden making a joke about the black and tans, a unit, a rettnent— the black and tans, a unit, a rettnent tn— the black and tans, a unit, a regiment in the— the black and tans, a unit, a regiment in the irish war for independence— regiment in the irish war for independence instead of the all dtaets— independence instead of the all dtaets ot— independence instead of the all blacks of new— independence instead of the all blacks of new zealand? do you tntnt— blacks of new zealand? do you tntnt tnat— blacks of new zealand? do you think that was— blacks of new zealand? do you think that was a— blacks of new zealand? do you think that was a deliberate attempt— think that was a deliberate attempt to— think that was a deliberate attempt to stir— think that was a deliberate attempt to stir up resentment ? attempt to stir up resentment? vett— attempt to stir up resentment? vvett vtat— attempt to stir up resentment? vvett vtat .— attempt to stir up resentment? well, what i saw— attempt to stir up resentment? well, what i saw in— attempt to stir up resentment? well, what i saw in the- attempt to stir up resentment? well, what i saw in the clips i read was him trying to build peace to make sure that the security of the agreement from 25 years ago holds and that

there isn't terror, that there isn't war, that there isn't gunfire . that's what i saw. joe gunfire. that's what i saw. joe biden trying to do the rest of it. i bring up a war that took place 100 years ago, trying to have a lot of fun in his home of his ancestry. well, absolutely. but his ancestry. well, absolutely. dat tt— his ancestry. well, absolutely. dat tt ne— his ancestry. well, absolutely. dat tt ne ts— his ancestry. well, absolutely. but if he is so— " f well, absolutely. but if he is so obsessed with his but if he is so obsessed with nts ancestry— but if he is so obsessed with nts aneestry .— but if he is so obsessed with his ancestry , i— but if he is so obsessed with his ancestry , i would argue he his ancestry, i would argue he toesn-t— his ancestry, i would argue he toesn-t tnov— his ancestry, i would argue he doesn't know very— his ancestry, i would argue he doesn't know very much about its ntstory.— doesn't know very much about its ntstory.-vants— doesn't know very much about its history.-wants.bring- doesn't know very much about its history. wants bring up history. if he wants to bring up a reference like— history. if he wants to bring up a reference like that whilst trytnt—aeaeel a reference like that whilst trytnt—aeaee tne trying to advocate peace on the tstant— trying to advocate peace on the tstant ot— trying to advocate peace on the island of ireland— trying to advocate peace on the island of ireland ,_ trying to advocate peace on the island of ireland , let let me island of ireland, let let me tast— island of ireland, let let me tast say— island of ireland, let let me tast say yoa— island of ireland, let let me just say you guys know every nttty— just say you guys know every nttty-aart— just say you guys know every nttty-aart ot— just say you guys know every nttty-aart ot tt- just say you guys know every nitty part of it because nitty gritty part of it because you— nitty gritty part of it because yoa-tnere— nitty gritty part of it because you-there and- nitty gritty part of it because you there and you should. you live there and you should. ant— you live there and you should. ant that-s— you live there and you should. and that's wonderful. -and and that's wonderful. well, and i and appreciate that that, and that's wonderful. well, and i an know preciate that that, and that's wonderful. well, and i an know yourate that that, and that's wonderful. well, and i an know your history that, and that's wonderful. well, and i an know your history andt, and that's wonderful. well, and i an know your history and it's you know your history and it's accurate. um he's dealing with a lot of stuff he's dealing with a senate that doesn't have a full membership. he's dealing with inflation. he's dealing with all of donald trump's prosecutions. and you know, we've talked about that previously on your show. he's a cavalcade of he's got a cavalcade of prosecutions coming up . uh, he's prosecutions coming up. uh, he's deaung prosecutions coming up. uh, he's dealing with with china. he's deaung dealing with with china. he's dealing with with china. he's dealing with iran, he's dealing with a lot of stuff. and that's why it's page 13 of the

washington post. this is a vacation trip for him, essentially. and it's a really fun one for him and one that he'll remember and you guys will remember for and all of the press clips that i've seen show all of the irish people having a very good time with joe and tapping beers with him and everything. so i'm not sure that you got it right . you know, you got it right. you know, trump did 40,000 lives. biden makes a few gaffes. yeah. i mean, president— 3 yeah. i mean, president trump, though, was mean, president trump, though, pretty— mean, president trump, though, was pretty unapologetic about his was pretty unapologetic about nts tor— was pretty unapologetic about nts tor tove— was pretty unapologetic about his for love the— was pretty unapologetic about his for love the british nonareny— his for love the british monarchy and all the rest of it. i monarchy and all the rest of it. . nean— monarchy and all the rest of it. i mean, president— monarchy and all the rest of it. i mean, president biden has in the i mean, president biden has in tne past,— i mean, president biden has in tne past, yoa— i mean, president biden has in the past, you know, talked about drttatn-s— the past, you know, talked about britain's history— the past, you know, talked about britain's history in— the past, you know, talked about britain's history in quite teroeatory— britain's history in quite derogatory terms. i mean, what do derogatory terms. i mean, what to yoa— derogatory terms. i mean, what to yoa say— derogatory terms. i mean, what to yoa say to— derogatory terms. i mean, what do you say to the— derogatory terms. i mean, what do you say to the fact that aetaatty— do you say to the fact that actually under— do you say to the fact that actually under biden, a lot of commentators— actually under biden, a lot of commentators and all the rest of it commentators and all the rest of tt are— commentators and all the rest of tt saytnt— commentators and all the rest of it are saying that— commentators and all the rest of it are saying that actually the spectat— it are saying that actually the special relationship ain't so spectat— special relationship ain't so special anymore ? o" l special relationship ain't so special anymore ? o" trig special anymore? oh, it's very special. but let me say this. oh, you're going to hate me. you're never going to invite me on your show again. do you know what i have for the date of the

coronation? what's that on my calendar? my tv off and calendar? turned my tv off and i think a lot of americans are going to do that. and, oh, americans love the monarchy. they love it. they're obsessed vttn— they love it. they're obsessed vttn tne— they love it. they're obsessed with the royal— they love it. they're obsessed with the royal family some us, espeetatty— with the royal family some us, espeetatty .— with the royal family some us, espeetatty . .— with the royal family some us, especially . i don't understand especially. i don't understand how you guys pay for that and use it as a vehicle of government. trump wants an autocratic system, but you luckily , your monarchy is not luckily, your monarchy is not the power . your electoral system the power. your electoral system is your power. well, robert, torna— is your power. well, robert, totne to— is your power. well, robert, we're going to have- " well, robert, we're going to have to leave it tnere— we're going to have to leave it tnere. dat— we're going to have to leave it tnere. dat .— we're going to have to leave it there. but i tell— we're going to have to leave it there. but i tell you what, tnoatn— there. but i tell you what, tnoaen on— there. but i tell you what, though, on that- there. but i tell you what, though, on that note, i would artae— though, on that note, i would areae tnat. — though, on that note, i would argue that. give— though, on that note, i would argue that. give me king charles over president— argue that. give me king charles over president biden any day of the over president biden any day of tne ween— over president biden any day of tne veet, dat— over president biden any day of the week, but we'll leave it tnere— the week, but we'll leave it tnere on— the week, but we'll leave it there on that— the week, but we'll leave it there on that note of disagreement. but thank you there on that note of— disagreement. but thank you very naen— disagreement. but thank you very naen toten— disagreement. but thank you very much, robert wiener there. now, this much, robert wiener there. now, tnts-tsn-t— much, robert wiener there. now, this-isn't complete- much, robert wiener there. now, this isn't complete without this show isn't complete without mr. this show isn't complete without on. tons— this show isn't complete without mr. fox's thoughts— this show isn't complete without mr. fox's thoughts , of course. mr. fox's thoughts, of course. lawrence, hello— mr. fox's thoughts, of course. lawrence, hello .— mr. fox's thoughts, of course. lawrence, hello . are you there? lawrence, hello. are you there? ne-s— lawrence, hello. are you there? ne-s tnere. — lawrence, hello. are you there? he's there. he's.— lawrence, hello. are you there? he's there. he's. are you free yete— he's there. he's. are you free yet? lawrence _ he's there. he's. are you free yet? lawrence are _ he's there. he's. are you free yet? lawrence are you free? wnere— yet? lawrence are you free? wnere — yet? lawrence are you free? where are you— yet? lawrence are you free? where are you right now ? where are you right now? i'm sat in where are you right now? i'm sat tn ny— where are you right now? i'm sat tn my notat— where are you right now? i'm sat in my hotel room.— where are you right now? i'm sat in my hotel room. darren, having come back from the airport last

night , come back from the airport last night, british come back from the airport last night , british airways come back from the airport last night, british airways being a perfect metaphor for britain. actually, it's terrible. really expensive. and doesn't work well. oh, well , hopefully you're well. oh, well, hopefully you're making the most of it, lawrence , what did you make of that discussion there? what did you atttnatety— discussion there? what did you ultimately think— discussion there? what did you ultimately think about- t: f tzzt" stzirtzfi’ what did you ultimately think about biden's vtstte— ultimately think about biden's vtstte-tt— ultimately think about biden's vtstte-tt a— ultimately think about biden's visit?-it a snub- ultimately think about biden's visit?-it a snub to- ultimately think about biden's visit? it a snub to britain? visit? was it a snub to britain? i i visit? was it a snub to britain? t t tntnt— visit? was it a snub to britain? t t tntnt tt-s— visit? was it a snub to britain? i i think it's a— visit? was it a snub to britain? i i think it's a huge snub to drttatn. — i i think it's a huge snub to britain. but,— i i think it's a huge snub to britain. but, you- i i think it's a huge snub to britain. but, you know, we've had this stuff with obama, haven't we, before when he he said britain was going to go to the back of the queue on brexit and stuff like that. and there's something about democrats who hate our monarchy. and i think probably democrats probably because democrats hate the wisdom through the passing of wisdom on through the passing of wisdom on through the you know , the generations. so, you know, this illusion of a special relationship with trump, whether you or hate him, really you like him or hate him, really cared about our relationship and has strong ties to this land as well as biden. biden feels many very feels very manufactured trumps feels much, much more real. so i think it's a terrible snub. not to go to the coronation of king charles. and you know, biden will probably get lost anyway, you know, on the on the way from

the car to the to the front door. indeed. i mean, i'm toottnt— door. indeed. i mean, i'm toottnt at— door. indeed. i mean, i'm looking at biden,- : indeed. i mean, i'm looking at biden, the biden tantty-s— looking at biden, the biden family's family— looking at biden, the biden family's family tree. lawrence ant— family's family tree. lawrence ant yoave— family's family tree. lawrence ant yoave tot— family's family tree. lawrence and you've got to— family's family tree. lawrence and you've got to go back to the tsdds— and you've got to go back to the tsdds to — and you've got to go back to the tsdds to ttnt— and you've got to go back to the 1800s to find biden's irish ancestry.— 1800s to find biden's irish aneestry. t— 1800s to find biden's irish ancestry. i mean, you know , ancestry. i mean, you know, tnat-s— ancestry. i mean, you know, tnat-s tne— ancestry. i mean, you know, that's the same— ancestry. i mean, you know, that's the same as my family tree— that's the same as my family tree .— that's the same as my family tree . toa— that's the same as my family tree . voa 9°— that's the same as my family tree . you go back— that's the same as my family tree . you go back to the 1800s tree. you go back to the 1800s ant— tree. you go back to the 1800s ant tnere— tree. you go back to the 1800s and there are— tree. you go back to the 1800s and there are the— tree. you go back to the 1800s and there are the irish. but i ton-t— and there are the irish. but i ton-t yoa— and there are the irish. but i don't you know— and there are the irish. but i don't you know ,_ and there are the irish. but i don't you know , wax lyrical don't you know, wax lyrical atoat— don't you know, wax lyrical atoat tne— don't you know, wax lyrical about the fact— don't you know, wax lyrical about the fact that i've got tnts— about the fact that i've got tnts ancestry— about the fact that i've got this ancestry dating back to the tsdds.— this ancestry dating back to the tsdds. do— this ancestry dating back to the tsdds. do yoa— this ancestry dating back to the 1800s. do you don't think he he neets— 1800s. do you don't think he he neets to— 1800s. do you don't think he he neets to get— 1800s. do you don't think he he needs to get over— 1800s. do you don't think he he needs to get over it. he's he's odsesset— needs to get over it. he's he's odsesset .— needs to get over it. he's he's obsessed . he's— needs to get over it. he's he's obsessed . he's very conflicted, obsessed. he's very conflicted, tsn-t— obsessed. he's very conflicted, em to — obsessed. he's very conflicted, em to vou— obsessed. he's very conflicted, isn't it? you know,- obsessed. he's very conflicted, isn't it? /t:::t. obsessed. he's very conflicted, isn't it? you know, the whole thing feels feels very, very conflicted . and he said, i think conflicted. and he said, i think in his tweet when he sent out the family tree, he said, you know, i passed on the values from my family to my children. which those, joe? which values are those, joe? yeah, because we've observed a few of your values and they're not necessarily the ones you want to pass on to your children. no, i mean. lawrence, vnere— children. no, i mean. lawrence, vnere yoa— children. no, i mean. lawrence, vnere yoa at— children. no, i mean. lawrence, where are you at on— ti t: ”til" no, i mean. lawrence, where are you at on this areanent— where are you at on this argument that- where are you at on this argument that actually communities in in ulster, you know,— communities in in ulster, you know, tne— communities in in ulster, you know, the dup— communities in in ulster, you know, the dup ,_ communities in in ulster, you know, the dup , of course, didn't know, the dup, of course, didn't vote— know, the dup, of course, didn't vote tor— know, the dup, of course, didn't vote tor tne— know, the dup, of course, didn't

vote for the windsor framework. tne — vote for the windsor framework. tne reorrnt — vote for the windsor framework. tne reorrnt to— vote for the windsor framework. the reform to the— vote for the windsor framework. the reform to the northern tretant— the reform to the northern ireland protocol that president dtten— ireland protocol that president dtten vas— ireland protocol that president biden was saying, you know, come on, biden was saying, you know, come tnts— biden was saying, you know, come tnts ts— biden was saying, you know, come tnts ts treat.— biden was saying, you know, come on, this is great. best thing se— on, this is great. best thing since sliced— on, this is great. best thing since sliced bread . a lot of since sliced bread. a lot of antontst— since sliced bread. a lot of unionist communities are saying , tet— unionist communities are saying , get yoarsett— unionist communities are saying , get yourself back— unionist communities are saying , get yourself back to america ant— , get yourself back to america ant ntnt— , get yourself back to america ant ntnt yoar— , get yourself back to america and mind your own business. well i and mind your own business. well t tettnttety— and mind your own business. well i definitely think— and mind your own business. well i definitely think if— and mind your own business. well i definitely think if you asked joe i definitely think if you asked yoe dtten— i definitely think if you asked joe biden what— i definitely think if you asked joe biden what the windsor tranevort— joe biden what the windsor framework was, _ joe biden what the windsor framework was, he'd go, come on, t— framework was, he'd go, come on, t ton-t— framework was, he'd go, come on, man. i don't know.— framework was, he'd go, come on, man. e man. i don't know. windsor it's a framework. it's great. good man. i don't think he knows much day from tuesday. so, you know , day from tuesday. so, you know, beanng day from tuesday. so, you know, bearing in mind the windsor framework is fairly complicated and i just i just think it's very divisive to get on a plane to come to the to the nearest country possible to the to our own country, which upholds its constitutional monarchy and to snub us in this way and to essentially, you know, to rattle the cage for one island, you know , united ireland. and it's know, united ireland. and it's just it's not what you expect from a classy person, whether you agree or disagree with our politics or not. and i don't think joe biden's a classy person level whatsoever. person on any level whatsoever. all lawrence, we're going

all right, lawrence, we're going to back from that to get you back on from that very room. i'll tell very nice hotel room. i'll tell you what very nice hotel room. i'll tell yoa vnat tn— very nice hotel room. i'll tell you what i'm going-be- ig " ti.ti; i'll tell you what i'm going be asking you what i'm going to be asking gb you what i'm going to be asking on news— you what i'm going to be asking on news tor— you what i'm going to be asking on news tor a— you what i'm going to be asking gb news for a pay— you what i'm going to be asking gb news for a pay rise after seetnt— gb news for a pay rise after seetne tnat— gb news for a pay rise after seeing that. -nice- gb news for a pay rise after seeing that. nice indeed. seeing that. very nice indeed. stttt—vve-re- seeing that. very nice indeed.j still—we're going still come, right? we're going to eonnet— still come, right? we're going to reconnect with— still come, right? we're going to reconnect with as i to reconnect with lawrence, as i say,— to reconnect with lawrence, as i say-ts— to reconnect with lawrence, as i say-ts nts— to reconnect with lawrence, as i say-ts nts snow.- to reconnect with lawrence, as i say,-is his show. of- say, since it is his show. of course, you -want- say, since it is his show. of course, you want to miss course, you won't want to miss tnat— course, you won't want to miss tnat, dat— course, you won't want to miss tnat, tat next— course, you won't want to miss that, but next up,— course, you won't want to miss that, but next up, we've got torettn— that, but next up, we've got foreign potty— that, but next up, we've got foreign policy analyst nile darttner— foreign policy analyst nile gardiner-talk- foreign policy analyst nile gardiner talk about foreign policy analyst nile- gardinerltalk-about the gardiner to talk more about the dtten— gardiner to talk more about the dtten vtstt— gardiner to talk more about the biden visit and— gardiner to talk more about the biden visit and the ties to the us biden visit and the ties to the us ant— biden visit and the ties to the us ant tnose— biden visit and the ties to the us and those security leaks. vnat-s— us and those security leaks. was gone— us and those security leaks. what's going on— us and those security leaks. what's going on there .

thank you very much for staying vttn— thank you very much for staying vttn — thank you very much for staying with us. thank— thank you very much for staying with us. thank you— thank you very much for staying with us. thank you for your company.— with us. thank you for your company. tt— with us. thank you for your company. if you've missed, tnoatn— company. if you've missed, though, robert— company. if you've missed, though, robert wiener's talk tast— though, robert wiener's talk tast deton— though, robert wiener's talk just below before the break tnere— just below before the break tnere tnen— just below before the break there then you— just below before the break there then you missed a cracking ttseasston— there then you missed a cracking discussion and— there then you missed a cracking discussion and i— there then you missed a cracking discussion and i would suggest tnat— discussion and i would suggest tnat nayte— discussion and i would suggest tnat nayte .— discussion and i would suggest that maybe , just— discussion and i would suggest that maybe , just maybe, my next that maybe, just maybe, my next taest— that maybe, just maybe, my next

taest ts— that maybe, just maybe, my next eaest ts torna— that maybe, just maybe, my next eaest ts totne to— that maybe, just maybe, my next guest is going to disagree eonptetety— guest is going to disagree eonptetety .— guest is going to disagree completely . so joining me to completely. so joining me to ttseass— completely. so joining me to ttseass as— completely. so joining me to discuss us and— completely. so joining me to discuss us and ireland foreign potty— discuss us and ireland foreign oottey tn— discuss us and ireland foreign oottey tn a— discuss us and ireland foreign oottey tn a dtt— discuss us and ireland foreign policy in a bit more depth is tne— policy in a bit more depth is the fantastic— policy in a bit more depth is the fantastic nigel gardiner, ttreetor— the fantastic nigel gardiner, ttreetor ot— the fantastic nigel gardiner, director of the— the fantastic nigel gardiner, director of the margaret tnatener— director of the margaret thatcher centre for freedom at the thatcher centre for freedom at tne nerttate— thatcher centre for freedom at the heritage foundation . nigel, the heritage foundation. nigel, tnant— the heritage foundation. nigel, tnant yoa— the heritage foundation. nigel, tnant yoa very— the heritage foundation. nigel, thank you very much for your ttne— thank you very much for your ttne .— thank you very much for your ttne . vnat— thank you very much for your time . what do— thank you very much for your time . what do you reckon the time. what do you reckon the dtten— time. what do you reckon the dtten vtstt— time. what do you reckon the biden visit told— time. what do you reckon the biden visit told people in the us biden visit told people in the us atoat— biden visit told people in the us about the _ biden visit told people in the us about the uk— biden visit told people in the us about the uk and about dresttent— us about the uk and about president biden's feelings tovart— president biden's feelings tovart as— president biden's feelings toward us here in blighty ? well, toward us here in blighty? well, darren— toward us here in blighty? well, darren, thanks— toward us here in blighty? well, darren, thanks very much for navtnt— darren, thanks very much for navtnt ne— darren, thanks very much for navtne me on— darren, thanks very much for having me on the show today. ant— having me on the show today. ant t— having me on the show today. ant t ttrnt— having me on the show today. and i think that— having me on the show today. and i think that joe— having me on the show today. and i think that joe biden's message to the uk is that he doesn't care about britain . this doesn't care about britain. this is, i think, one of the most anti—british presidents in modern us history. and biden has behaved in extremely dismissive fashion towards the united kingdom . he is somebody, of kingdom. he is somebody, of course, who seems to elevate ireland and also the european union above the special relationship with the united kingdom . he's also a kingdom. he's also a spectacularly rude individual

lecturing the british prime minister over northern ireland and brexit policy, who does he think he is in the meantime? of course, he's hobnobbing with irish elites , including gerry irish elites, including gerry adams , of course. and for many adams, of course. and for many decades , as joe biden was a was decades, as joe biden was a was an enthusiastic supporter of the ira terrorist movement . and so ira terrorist movement. and so you can see where this is all coming from. and biden began his presidency by throwing a bust of winston churchill out of the oval office, just as barack obama did before him. president trump brought the bus back and biden removed it and i have to say, i do think biden is a disaster for america, is a disaster for america, is a disaster for america, is a disaster for the free world. and he is , you know, treating he is, you know, treating britain with absolute disdain , a britain with absolute disdain, a fundamental lack of lack of respect act. and of course, he's kowtowing to, you know, to the elites, including those in ireland as well. no wonder that contempt— ireland as well. no wonder that content tnat—

ireland as well. no wonder that contempt that you— : no wonder that contempt that you speak of evtteneet— contempt that you speak of evidenced by— contempt that you speak of evidenced by president biden tovarts— evidenced by president biden towards towards _ evidenced by president biden towards towards britain . do you towards towards britain. do you tntnt— towards towards britain. do you think personally— towards towards britain. do you think personally that actually the think personally that actually tne enante— think personally that actually tne enante tn— think personally that actually the change in prime minister no...— the change in prime minister to... ot— the change in prime minister from, of course,— the change in prime minister from, of course, boris johnson to us— from, of course, boris johnson to ad trass— from, of course, boris johnson to ad trass to— from, of course, boris johnson to liz truss to now— from, of course, boris johnson to liz truss to now rishi sunak nat— to liz truss to now rishi sunak , tnat aetaatty— to liz truss to now rishi sunak , that actually president biden teets— , that actually president biden teets tnat— , that actually president biden feels that he— , that actually president biden feels that he can— , that actually president biden feels that he can completely natt— feels that he can completely vatt att— feels that he can completely walk all over— feels that he can completely walk all over rishi sunak is tnat— walk all over rishi sunak is tnat tatte— walk all over rishi sunak is that fair? yeah,— walk all over rishi sunak is that fair? yeah, and that's aetaatty— that fair? yeah, and that's aetaatty a— that fair? yeah, and that's actually a very- that fair? yeah, and that's actually a very interesting nont— actually a very interesting point, darren,— actually a very interesting point, darren, because as the dtten— point, darren, because as the dtten wntte— point, darren, because as the biden white house, absolutely natet— biden white house, absolutely natet dons— biden white house, absolutely hated boris johnson and they tntensety— hated boris johnson and they intensely disliked liz truss. in intensely disliked liz truss. tn tact.— intensely disliked liz truss. in fact, biden— intensely disliked liz truss. in fact, biden directly- in fact, biden directly intervened, attacking liz truss's tax policies. and so biden was part of this sort of anti—growth coalition trying to oust liz truss because they didn't like her, her low tax, pro—economic freedom approach, which undercut , of course, the which undercut, of course, the big government americans . with big government americans. with regard to rishi sunak, i do think that joe biden, his adviser view sunak as a somewhat , adviser view sunak as a somewhat i , adviser view sunak as a somewhat , i would say, you know, softer leader. i think they they do believe they can push sunak around. hence, you have biden

lecturing sunak over the over the windsor framework over trying to force the dup into what is actually a very bad deal overall. and i think that they do in the white house view sunaks downing street as a walkover and a far easier to push around compared to boris johnson's downing street , for johnson's downing street, for example. sunak needs to stand up for britain. he needs to stand up to biden. he needs to tell joe biden, go mind his own business. it's not the role of the us president to be lecturing the us president to be lecturing the british people over their own brexit policy and northern ireland joe biden ireland policy. and joe biden has yet again been acting as an extremely arrogant, buffoonish character on the on the world stage and demonstrating his clear and absolute hatred towards britain and the british prime minister has got to be tougher. he's got to stand up to biden. i mean, as i said at the start— biden. i mean, as i said at the stan ot— biden. i mean, as i said at the stan ot tne— biden. i mean, as i said at the start of the show,— biden. i mean, as i said at the start of the show, at- : i mean, as i said at the start of the show, at the top of tne— start of the show, at the top of tne snow— start of the show, at the top of the show there,— start of the show, at the top of the show there, i— start of the show, at the top of the show there, i actually feel ttte— the show there, i actually feel ttte saytnt— the show there, i actually feel ttte saytne to— the show there, i actually feel like saying to president biden, of course, he's— like saying to president biden, of course, he's not going to

ttsten— of course, he's not going to ttsten to— of course, he's not going to listen to me.— of course, he's not going to listen to me. but, you know, i teet— listen to me. but, you know, i teet atte— listen to me. but, you know, i feel like saying— listen to me. but, you know, i feel like saying to— listen to me. but, you know, i feel like saying to him, we votet— feel like saying to him, we voted-brexit. - feel like saying to him, we voted brexit. we voted for voted for brexit. we voted for dons— voted for brexit. we voted for dons ve— voted for brexit. we voted for boris, we voted— voted for brexit. we voted for boris, we voted for bold action to-tet— boris, we voted for bold action to-tet drttatn- boris, we voted for bold action to get britain working to actually get britain working atatn. —tor- to actually get britain working atatn. —tor joel again. we didn't vote for joe dtten— again. we didn't vote for joe dtten ant— again. we didn't vote for joe biden and the— again. we didn't vote for joe biden and the whakaari and vvotery— biden and the whakaari and vvotery tnat— biden and the whakaari and wokery that he's presided over in wokery that he's presided over tn tne— wokery that he's presided over in the united— wokery that he's presided over in the united states of america. i in the united states of america. t aetaatty— in the united states of america. i actually think— in the united states of america. i actually think nigel, he's veatenet— i actually think nigel, he's weakened the— i actually think nigel, he's weakened the west . yeah. yeah. weakened the west. yeah. yeah. i do weakened the west. yeah. yeah. i to tntnt— weakened the west. yeah. yeah. i to tntnt tnat— weakened the west. yeah. yeah. i do think that joe— weakened the west. yeah. yeah. i do think that joe biden has been an atsotate— do think that joe biden has been an absolute disaster for not onty— an absolute disaster for not onty tne— an absolute disaster for not only the united— an absolute disaster for not only the united states but for the only the united states but for tne entre— only the united states but for the entire free— only the united states but for the entire free world. i the entire free world. his track rert— the entire free world. his track reert nas— the entire free world. his track record has has, as president has been, absolutely catastrophic. and one only has to look at the afghanistan withdrawal, for example, as an example of that. also, leads the most far left also, he leads the most far left us administration in american history, completely taken over by, frankly woke far left extremism . and he's trying to extremism. and he's trying to export that across across the world. and needless to say, joe biden loves the eu. he bows down to the bureaucrats in brussels. he hates brexit. he has no respect at all for the democratic will of the british people and i do think that the

biden presidency has been a monumental total failure. and a monumental total failure. and a monumental disaster for america. and biden is just an embarrassing president . embarrassing president. actually. he he is somebody who walks around the world stage and people are mocking, i think, american leadership or the lack of it right now. i mean, just tast— of it right now. i mean, just tast trtetty— of it right now. i mean, just just briefly, nigel,- of it right now. i mean, just just briefly, nigel, if- e t; i mean, just just briefly, nigel, if you voatt— just briefly, nigel, if you voatt, dat— just briefly, nigel, if you would, but robert wiener, tney-re— would, but robert wiener, they're talking— would, but robert wiener, they're talking from the former cttnton — they're talking from the former cttnton ant— they're talking from the former clinton and bush— they're talking from the former clinton and bush administrations and clinton and bush administrations ant ne— clinton and bush administrations ant ne vas— clinton and bush administrations and he was talking about how aetaatty— and he was talking about how aetaatty, yoa — and he was talking about how actually, you know , president actually, you know, president dtten-s— actually, you know, president biden's visit,— actually, you know, president biden's visit, we— actually, you know, president biden's visit, we should feel tnat— biden's visit, we should feel tnat tatte— biden's visit, we should feel that quite lucky— biden's visit, we should feel that quite lucky that he's come nee.— that quite lucky that he's come nere. dat— that quite lucky that he's come here. but equally,— that quite lucky that he's come here. but equally, you know , he here. but equally, you know, he spent— here. but equally, you know, he spent more— here. but equally, you know, he spent more time— here. but equally, you know, he spent more time in— here. but equally, you know, he spent more time in ireland. he tttn-t— spent more time in ireland. he tttn-t ty— spent more time in ireland. he tttn-t tty tne— spent more time in ireland. he didn't fly the union, jack. he he didn't fly the union, jack. he ne ttev— didn't fly the union, jack. he ne ttev tne— didn't fly the union, jack. he he flew the republic of tretant-s— he flew the republic of ireland's flag. and now he says ne-s— ireland's flag. and now he says ne-s not— ireland's flag. and now he says he's not coming— ireland's flag. and now he says he's not coming to— ireland's flag. and now he says he's not coming to the coronation. _ he's not coming to the coronation. i- he's not coming to the coronation. i mean, i don't tntnt— coronation. i mean, i don't tntnt ve— coronation. i mean, i don't tntnt we are— coronation. i mean, i don't think we are feeling quite so tasty— think we are feeling quite so tasty to— think we are feeling quite so lucky to have— think we are feeling quite so lucky to have president biden eontnt— lucky to have president biden eontnt over— lucky to have president biden coming over here. all special, tnteet. — coming over here. all special, tnteet. tn— coming over here. all special, indeed. in fact,— coming over here. all special, indeed. in fact, i— coming over here. all special, indeed. " �*vitti indeed. in fact, i think, you know, i imagine most americans

are just glad that biden's out of the country for a few days probably. and you know, i think that i listened to robert's interview earlier and you know, i fundamentally disagree with what here. what he's what he's saying here. and you know, biden has treated britain with absolute contempt . britain with absolute contempt. you're spending a few hours learning on the ground in in northern ireland four days northern ireland and four days in ireland. it all in in ireland. it says it all really and, you know, this is a president who who really i think fundamentally is ruining and damaging the us—uk special relationship. and his refusal to attend the coronation. king charles iii is yet another inqu charles iii is yet another insult here. and you know, biden, i think , is doing all he biden, i think, is doing all he possibly can to undermine the ties with with the united kingdom. he's no friend of the british people. that's for sure. nigel will leave it with those wise words there. thank you very naen — wise words there. thank you very naen attet— wise words there. thank you very much, nigel gardiner— wise words there. thank you very much, nigel gardiner ,- : thank you very much, nigel gardiner , for your much, nigel gardiner, for your ttne— much, nigel gardiner, for your ttne totay. — much, nigel gardiner, for your time today. that's gardiner from the time today. that's gardiner from tne nerttate— time today. that's gardiner from the heritage foundation . again, the heritage foundation. again, i'm the heritage foundation. again, tn tetttntet— the heritage foundation. again, i'm delighted to— the heritage foundation. again, i'm delighted to say that the fox i'm delighted to say that the toe ts— i'm delighted to say that the toe ts tast- — i'm delighted to say that the fox is back. lawrence joins me atatn—

fox is back. lawrence joins me atatn tron — fox is back. lawrence joins me once again from an exotic toeatton— once again from an exotic location. lawrence what did you nate— location. lawrence what did you make ot— location. lawrence what did you make of niall's_ location. lawrence what did you make of niall's analysis there ? make of niall's analysis there? i make of niall's analysis there? t mean— make of niall's analysis there? t t— make of niall's analysis there? i mean, i think— make of niall's analysis there? i mean, i think he's he's right ant— i mean, i think he's he's right ant tt-s— i mean, i think he's he's right and it's depressingly accurate it and it's depressingly accurate tt deaase— and it's depressingly accurate tt deaase t— and it's depressingly accurate it because i think under dresttent— it because i think under president trump, we didn't reattse— president trump, we didn't reattse tne— president trump, we didn't realise the extent to which we nat— realise the extent to which we nat a— realise the extent to which we nat a reat— realise the extent to which we had a real friend— realise the extent to which we had a real friend there. aetaatty— had a real friend there. actually well, he does make a reatty— actually well, he does make a reatty toot— actually well, he does make a really good point,— actually well, he does make a really good point, which is that dtten— really good point, which is that dtten ts— really good point, which is that dtten ts no— really good point, which is that biden is no friend— really good point, which is that biden is no friend of britain ant— biden is no friend of britain ant tt— biden is no friend of britain ant tt yoa— biden is no friend of britain and if you listen— biden is no friend of britain and if you listen to victor davts— and if you listen to victor davis hanson,— and if you listen to victor davis hanson, who i had on the snow— davis hanson, who i had on the snow tast— davis hanson, who i had on the show last week,— davis hanson, who i had on the show last week, who i think is ot— show last week, who i think is ot tne— show last week, who i think is one of the pre—eminent thinkers in one of the pre—eminent thinkers tn tnts— one of the pre—eminent thinkers tn tnts area— one of the pre—eminent thinkers in this area, he's— one of the pre—eminent thinkers in this area, he's saying anertea— in this area, he's saying anertea ts— in this area, he's saying america is undergoing a revotatton— america is undergoing a revolution . _ america is undergoing a revolution . it- america is undergoing a revolution . e : e america is undergoing a- revolution . it just doesn't know revolution. it just doesn't know it yet. and you know, with all with everything that's going on, this extremism that's this far left extremism that's going america biden is going on in america and biden is overseeing now, whether he's overseeing it now, whether he's being puppet, being whether he's a puppet, whether puppet whether he's being puppet mastered he's doing mastered or whether he's doing it i thoroughly it himself, which i thoroughly doubt. america no friend doubt. but america is no friend of britain at the moment. and you know, amazing that he's you know, it's amazing that he's also in ireland while , you know, also in ireland while, you know, we've seen today the leaks that have come out of america in regards to what's going on in ukraine. and, you know, for all

we know, this man has dragged is dragging us very quickly into world war iii. and i think he's a he's a stain on the american presidency, actually. yeah it's very strong words there, lawrence. i mean , we had robert lawrence. i mean, we had robert vvtener— lawrence. i mean, we had robert vvtener on— lawrence. i mean, we had robert vvtener on at— lawrence. i mean, we had robert wiener on at the— lawrence. i mean, we had robert wiener on at the start,- i i mean, we had robert wiener on at the start, though. ant— wiener on at the start, though. ant as— wiener on at the start, though. ant as yoa— wiener on at the start, though. and as you know,— wiener on at the start, though. and as you know, he was saying dresttent— and as you know, he was saying president biden,— and as you know, he was saying president biden, we should feel tasty— president biden, we should feel tasty tn— president biden, we should feel lucky in britain.— president biden, we should feel lucky in britain. do you feel tastye— lucky in britain. do you feel tastye t— lucky in britain. do you feel tastye t teet— lucky in britain. do you feel lucky? i feel incredibly lucky to de— lucky? i feel incredibly lucky to be british. _ lucky? i feel incredibly lucky to be british. i— lucky? i feel incredibly lucky to be british. "

nationalism, they hate flags, they hate everything. and, you know when what victor davis hanson was saying that we're entering this civil war is we're now being pitted against each other in such such a fundamental way that we have to sit there and some of us are going to defend our values and some of us are going to try and overwhelm them. i think biden is them. and i think biden is spitting and, you spitting in our face. and, you know, fortunately, his you know spitting in our face. and, you knovtthe �*tunately, his you know spitting in our face. and, you knovtthe stuff ely, his you know spitting in our face. and, you knovtthe stuff they're you know spitting in our face. and, you knovtthe stuff they're doing now spitting in our face. and, you knovtthe stuff they're doing tov , all the stuff they're doing to trump terms of these unending trump in terms of these unending litigations just to try and litigations is just to try and stop democracy taking place from the talks the from the party that talks about our democracy all the time . it's embarrassing. lawrence, i think . it's embarrassing. lawrence, i tntnt-rttnt— . it's embarrassing. lawrence, i tntnt-rttnt .— . it's embarrassing. lawrence, i think-right . and- . it's embarrassing. lawrence, i think-right . and i- . it's embarrassing. lawrence, i think-right . and i think| think you're right. and i think many— think you're right. and i think many ot— think you're right. and i think many ot oa— think you're right. and i think many of our viewers think evaetty— many of our viewers think exactly-same. - many of our viewers think exactly same. and many exactly the same. and many of tnen— exactly the same. and many of them,-lawrence,- exactly the same. and many of them, lawrence, want exactly the same. and many of thtknow lawrence, want exactly the same. and many of thtknow whetherawrence, want exactly the same. and many of tht know whether awrenc your nt to know whether or not your passion— to know whether or not your passport bought, is passport bought, rather, is going— passport bought, rather, is tent—vort- passport bought, rather, is. going—work when passport bought, rather, is- going_work when you going to actually work when you get tast— going to actually work when you get taet tnte— going to actually work when you get back into britain. i'll tell you— get back into britain. i'll tell yoa tnat— get back into britain. i'll tell you that much.— get back into britain. i'll tell you that much. but coming back up, you that much. but coming back an totnt— you that much. but coming back an totne to— you that much. but coming back up, we're going to have more fox ant— up, we're going to have more fox ant totnt— up, we're going to have more fox and we're going to— up, we're going to have more fox and we're going to have more of the and we're going to have more of tne tov— and we're going to have more of tne tov ant— and we're going to have more of the fox and the— and we're going to have more of the fox and the news hounds danet— the fox and the news hounds eanet .— the fox and the news hounds eanet . ant— the fox and the news hounds panel . and we'll— the fox and the news hounds panel . and we'll check in, as i panel. and we'll check in, as i say,— panel. and we'll check in, as i say-tavrenee— panel. and we'll check in, as i say,-lawrence-up| say, with lawrence banged up atroat— say, with lawrence banged up atroat .— say, with lawrence banged up atroat . ttt— say, with lawrence banged up abroad . i'll see— say, with lawrence banged up abroad . i'll see you .

soon i soon. welcome iseen- welcome back. iseen— welcome back. i'm still not laurence fox,— welcome back. i'm still not laurence fox, sadly , but i am laurence fox, sadly, but i am danen— laurence fox, sadly, but i am darren grimes.— laurence fox, sadly, but i am darren grimes. and i thank you very— darren grimes. and i thank you very nast— darren grimes. and i thank you very naen tor— darren grimes. and i thank you very much for your— darren grimes. and i thank you very much for your company. i vant— very much for your company. i want to— very much for your company. i want to eat— very much for your company. i want to read out— very much for your company. i want to read out some of your reaetton— want to read out some of your reaction questions— want to read out some of your reaction questions to the show so tar— reaction questions to the show so tar at— reaction questions to the show so tar at crazy— reaction questions to the show so far at crazy for— reaction questions to the show so far at crazy for glass on tvttter— so far at crazy for glass on tvttter says— so far at crazy for glass on twitter says as— so far at crazy for glass on twitter says as long as he testroys— twitter says as long as he destroys america, talking about dresttent— destroys america, talking about president biden _ destroys america, talking about president biden ,_ destroys america, talking about president biden , he doesn't care president biden, he doesn't care vnat— president biden, he doesn't care vnat otters— president biden, he doesn't care what others think— president biden, he doesn't care what others think .— president biden, he doesn't care what others think . he and his what others think. he and his administration— what others think. he and his administration has made clear tnat— administration has made clear that obviously— administration has made clear that obviously clear to us in anertea— that obviously clear to us in anertea .— that obviously clear to us in america , he's— that obviously clear to us in america , he's anti—american. america, he's anti—american. atso— america, he's anti—american. atso, not— america, he's anti—american. atso, not even— america, he's anti—american. also, not even anti—british. ne-s— also, not even anti—british. he's anti—american , anne helen he's anti—american, anne helen says.— he's anti—american, anne helen says. nes— he's anti—american, anne helen says. ne-s reatty— he's anti—american, anne helen says. he's really insulted drttatn.— says. he's really insulted britain. we— says. he's really insulted britain. we don't need his interference _ britain. we don't need his interference trying to blackmail tnen — interference trying to blackmail tnen vttn— interference trying to blackmail tnen an a— interference trying to blackmail them with a deal— interference trying to blackmail them with a deal to get powersharing - them with a deal to get powersharing going again. no teat— powersharing going again. no teat tor— powersharing going again. no teat tor tne— powersharing going again. no deal for the uk— powersharing going again. no deal for the uk though. time anertea— deal for the uk though. time america minded— deal for the uk though. time america minded its own business.

us america minded its own business. as ant— america minded its own business. as ant ttteen— america minded its own business. us and eileen says,— america minded its own business. us and eileen says, come on ttteen— us and eileen says, come on ttteen sne— us and eileen says, come on eileen, she says,— us and eileen says, come on eileen, she says, give this man a treat.— eileen, she says, give this man a treat. tet— eileen, she says, give this man a treat. tet ae— eileen, she says, give this man a break. fed up of— eileen, she says, give this man a break. fed up of hearing gb's vtvves— a break. fed up of hearing gb's on ttn— a break. fed up of hearing gb's views on mr. biden . oh, eileen's views on mr. biden. oh, eileen's got me— views on mr. biden. oh, eileen's got me tott— views on mr. biden. oh, eileen's got me told, hasn't— views on mr. biden. oh, eileen's got me told, hasn't she? well, tnant— got me told, hasn't she? well, tnant yoa— got me told, hasn't she? well, tnant yoa very— got me told, hasn't she? well, thank you very much . as i say, thank you very much. as i say, for thank you very much. as i say, tor yoar— thank you very much. as i say, for your company,— thank you very much. as i say, for your company, i'm for in taarene tov— for your company, i'm for in laurence fox tonight, who's anatte— laurence fox tonight, who's anatte to— laurence fox tonight, who's unable to successfully board a etane— unable to successfully board a etane .— unable to successfully board a etane . tnts— unable to successfully board a etane . tnts ts— unable to successfully board a plane . this is the— unable to successfully board a plane . this is the fox and news plane. this is the fox and news noants— plane. this is the fox and news noants danet— plane. this is the fox and news hounds panel. so— plane. this is the fox and news hounds panel. so first off, any notttay— hounds panel. so first off, any holiday disaster— hounds panel. so first off, any holiday disaster from my panel? nave— holiday disaster from my panel? nave yoa— holiday disaster from my panel? nave yoa ever— holiday disaster from my panel? have you ever had— holiday disaster from my panel? have you ever had a holiday ttsastere— have you ever had a holiday disaster? anna— have you ever had a holiday disaster? anna mcgovern i did tast— disaster? anna mcgovern i did tast ye..— disaster? anna mcgovern i did tast year, dat— disaster? anna mcgovern i did last year, but not— disaster? anna mcgovern i did last year, but not being stuck, it last year, but not being stuck, tt vas— last year, but not being stuck, tt ny— last year, but not being stuck, it was my friend— last year, but not being stuck, it was my friend . \tit last year, but not being stuck, it was my friend . \ttit “ it was my friend. no, no. in teete— it was my friend. no, no. in greece, almost it. i'm probably where you are. yeah probably depends. what part ? no, my depends. what part? no, my friend fell over. i'm really badly messed up. her leg . and badly messed up. her leg. and then we had to go to one of the greek hospitals, falls and it was very . it was very run down was very. it was very run down there. it made it almost made me thankful for our nhs in comparison to what we saw there. and we were stuck there for a few days. she couldn't move or

anything. we had to get like a fit to fly test all very quickly . but yeah, that was quite a big disaster at the time. happened halfway the holiday . a halfway through the holiday. a total nightmare, yeah. lewis oakley, to talk to you oakley, i want to talk to you about something perhaps a little bit serious than laurence bit more serious than laurence fox and stuck in in fox and getting stuck in in wherever he is. the labour trans story— wherever he is. the labour trans story vnere— wherever he is. the labour trans story where actually— wherever he is. the labour trans story where actually our- the labour trans story where actually our very torn — story where actually our very own tom harwood revealed evetastvety— own tom harwood revealed exclusively for— own tom harwood revealed exclusively for the channel that a seet— exclusively for the channel that a secret row is— exclusively for the channel that a secret row is explored and vttn— a secret row is explored and an tatoar— a secret row is explored and with labour over— a secret row is explored and with labour over the issue of trans— with labour over the issue of trans rttnts— with labour over the issue of trans rights, we— with labour over the issue of trans rights, we know it's a very— trans rights, we know it's a very ttvtstve— trans rights, we know it's a very divisive issue. many people atoat— very divisive issue. many people atoat tt— very divisive issue. many people care about it very— very divisive issue. many people care about it very strongly that want— care about it very strongly that vaten tnts— care about it very strongly that watch this very— care about it very strongly that watch this very show now. what do watch this very show now. what to yoa— watch this very show now. what to yoa nate— watch this very show now. what to yoa nate ot— watch this very show now. what do you make of that? because i mean, you're an activist based in mean, you're an activist based tn tne— mean, you're an activist based in the movement,— mean, you're an activist based in the movement, at least of the tent.— in the movement, at least of the tent. teat.— in the movement, at least of the tent. vean. do— in the movement, at least of the lgbt. yeah. do have— in the movement, at least of the lgbt. yeah. do have labour got tnts— lgbt. yeah. do have labour got tnts wronge— lgbt. yeah. do have labour got this wrong? should labour be at tnte— this wrong? should labour be at pride marches— this wrong? should labour be at pride marches and— this wrong? should labour be at pride marches and lgbt labour vents— pride marches and lgbt labour vents ant— pride marches and lgbt labour events and all— pride marches and lgbt labour events and all the— pride marches and lgbt labour events and all the rest of it? nett— events and all the rest of it? vvett t— events and all the rest of it? well i think— events and all the rest of it? well i think for— events and all the rest of it? well i think for me the thing tnat-s— well i think for me the thing has reatty— well i think for me the thing that's really clear on this tssae— that's really clear on this ts— that's really clear on this issue is that— that's really clear on this issue is that keir starmer needs to aetaatty— issue is that keir starmer needs to actually remember he is a

teater— to actually remember he is a teater ant— to actually remember he is a leader and lead— to actually remember he is a leader and lead reading the story. — leader and lead reading the story. tt— leader and lead reading the story. it seems— leader and lead reading the story. it seems a- leader and lead reading the story. i l story. it seems a lot like he's just waiting to see which way the wind blows and he'll create his policy from that. actually, no, he's not. this is, you know, trans is a big topic and people really care about it. you have got to have a position on it that you believe in. and it's part of being leader. he needs part of being a leader. he needs to at his morals and kind to look at his morals and kind of say, look, morally, where am i right and once he i on this? right and once he knows he can, then say, knows that, he can, then say, right, so this is my position and this what is going and this is what labour is going to about it. and to do about it. and then crucially, if are a leader, crucially, if you are a leader, you have to go out into the you then have to go out into the community on all sides of community his on all sides of that debate and look, this that debate and say, look, this is my solution to this is is my solution to it. this is why i it's the right one. why i think it's the right one. so going have to come so you're going to have to come a little bit over here and you're going to have to come a little bit over here. and this is what we're going to do. he needs to sell it, right now, needs to sell it, but right now, it the policy is it seems to be the policy is we'll wait till we're in government, see way the government, see which way the wind then we'll wind is blowing, and then we'll decide which good for decide which is not good for anyone. i mean, in my view, the

i mean, in my view, the man so many splinters on man has got so many splinters on his man has got so many splinters on nts dotton — man has got so many splinters on his bottom from _ man has got so many splinters on his bottom from sitting on the tense— his bottom from sitting on the tense vea— his bottom from sitting on the fence, you know,— his bottom from sitting on the fence, you know, he needs to be earn— fence, you know, he needs to be immense pain must— fence, you know, he needs to be immense pain must be immeasurable. anna mcgovern, tnoatn— immeasurable. anna mcgovern, tnoatn-tssae— immeasurable. anna mcgovern, though, - issue - got - though, this issue has got the anne— prime minister talking this vest.— prime minister talking this vest-an- prime minister talking this week. an interview week. he gave an interview eartter— earlier this week to conservative he conservative home in which he sat— conservative home in which he satt ne— conservative home in which he said he disagrees— conservative home in which he said he disagrees sir keir said he disagrees with sir keir starner—ot- said he disagrees with sir keir starmer of women starmer that 99.9% of women ton-t— starmer that 99.9% of women tent-dents.— starmer that 99.9% of women ton-t-eents-t- starmer that 99.9% of women. don't-penis.-i mean, don't have a penis. now i mean, tnts— don't have a penis. now i mean, tnts-as— don't have a penis. now i mean, tnts-as ve— don't have a penis. now i mean, tnts-as we say,— don't have a penis. now i mean, this-as we say, it's- this issue, as we say, it's trtvtnt— this issue, as we say, it's driving labour- this issue, as we say, it's driving labour mad. it it's yean.— driving labour mad. it it's yean. tne— driving labour mad. it it's yeah. the prime minister's sonnenttnt— yeah. the prime minister's commenting on- yeah. the prime minister's commenting on it where are you at? commenting on it where are you ate — commenting on it where are you at t— commenting on it where are you at t mean— commenting on it where are you at t t— commenting on it where are you at? i mean, i think— commenting on it where are you at? i mean, i think that- commenting on it where are you at? “ “1 at? i mean, i think that the next general election is going to be dominated by this culture war. think quite war. and i think it's quite clear what keir starmer thinks. he define is. he can't define what a woman is. adult woman, adult, human, female. that is what a woman is. and i think is staying on the and i think he is staying on the fence because waiting to fence because he's waiting to see wind blows. he see where the wind blows. he wants to say what is the most what's attract the what's going to attract the electorate, what's going to get him 10? because i him into number 10? because i actually think that when they do get into number 10, they will push agenda further . push this agenda even further. but going to say that but he's not going to say that publicly right now because he wants to but what's publicly right now because he wants to get but what's publicly right now because he wants to get him but what's publicly right now because he wants to get him into vhat's publicly right now because he wants to get him into number 10? going to get him into number 10? what's going to get him into power? so he's going to

power? so i think he's going to continue stay quite reserved continue to stay quite reserved on it's not about on this issue. it's not about his or values. he just his morals or values. he just wants to get in power. lawrence his morals or values. he just wantwe'reiet in power. lawrence his morals or values. he just wantwe're going)ower. lawrence his morals or values. he just wantwe're going to ier. lawrence his morals or values. he just wantwe're going to set lawrence his morals or values. he just wantwe're going to set lafoxence fox, we're going to set a fox among the hounds here. lawrence do you reckon sir keir— d lawrence do you reckon sir keir starmer saytnt— do you reckon sir keir starmer saytnt, toot,— do you reckon sir keir starmer saytnt, not, t— do you reckon sir keir starmer saying, look, i don't want to eotenttatty— saying, look, i don't want to eotenttatty t— saying, look, i don't want to potentially i don't want to be vttn— potentially i don't want to be seen with lgbt— potentially i don't want to be seen with lgbt labour at these nttty— seen with lgbt labour at these ntenty vtsttte— seen with lgbt labour at these highly visible pride marches and all highly visible pride marches and at tnese— highly visible pride marches and all these rallies— highly visible pride marches and all these rallies for trans eeoete— all these rallies for trans eeoete ant— all these rallies for trans people and goodness only knows vnat— people and goodness only knows vnat etse— people and goodness only knows vnat etse to— people and goodness only knows what else do you— people and goodness only knows what else do you reckon this is stever— what else do you reckon this is clever politics? _ what else do you reckon this is clever politics? acas no , i clever politics? acas no, i tntnt— clever politics? acas no, i tntnt tt-s— clever politics? acas no, i think it's dreadful politics. i agree— think it's dreadful politics. i agree nttt— think it's dreadful politics. i agree with anna— think it's dreadful politics. i agree with anna that- think it's dreadful politics. i agree with anna that i- think it's dreadful politics. i agree with anna that i think the more the more these cultural issues come to light, the more they're actually going to be election winners or losers. you do not want a leader of anything who cannot define what a woman is . and keir, you. turner will is. and keir, you. turner will you turn over anything if he if he thinks it's going to be popular with somebody? so ultimately , if you can't tell me ultimately, if you can't tell me what a woman is, i don't want you anywhere near a seat of any power whatsoever because, you know, without women, there are no and to remember no men. and we need to remember that, know, it's crucially

that, you know, it's crucially important. if also women's important. and if also women's sports and women's spaces shouldn't be the refuge of men that aren't very good at swimming , etcetera. yeah that aren't very good at swimming, etcetera. yeah . i swimming, etcetera. yeah. i mean, lewis, that- swimming, etcetera. yeah. i mean, lewis, that that- “t; i yeah. i mean, lewis, that that point tnere— mean, lewis, that that point tnere t— mean, lewis, that that point there i mean— mean, lewis, that that point there i mean ,_ mean, lewis, that that point there i mean , is— mean, lewis, that that point there i mean , is it proven that there i mean, is it proven that nes— there i mean, is it proven that ne-s not— there i mean, is it proven that ne-s not reaty— there i mean, is it proven that he's not ready for— there i mean, is it proven that he's not ready for power? sir tetr— he's not ready for power? sir keir starmer— he's not ready for power? sir keir starmer the— he's not ready for power? sir keir starmer the election is a tong— keir starmer the election is a tong nay— keir starmer the election is a tong vay oat. — keir starmer the election is a long way out. he— keir starmer the election is a long way out. ti; i“ keir starmer the election is a long way out. ti; tiit“ keir starmer the election is a long way out. ti; is“ long way out. he can come out a the way about a year and a half. are we talking about he's going to come out? that's quite, you know,— to come out? that's quite, you know, tatte— to come out? that's quite, you know, quite near.— to come out? that's quite, you know, quite near. i— i time? that's quite, you know, quite near. i think. i titj’ that's quite, you know, quite near. i think. yeah. vett— know, quite near. i think. yeah. vvett. rtgtt— know, quite near. i think. yeah. vvett. rtgnt. so— know, quite near. i think. yeah. well, right. so anyway, he's got a nes— well, right. so anyway, he's got a ne-s got— well, right. so anyway, he's got a ne-s got to— well, right. so anyway, he's got a he's got to think— well, right. so anyway, he's got a he's got to think about his asttvtsts— a he's got to think about his activists as— a he's got to think about his activists as well— a he's got to think about his activists as well as a bisexual asttvtst— activists as well as a bisexual activist that— activists as well as a bisexual activist that -tie - activist that doesn't tie ntnsett— activist that doesn't tie himself party himself to any political party for himself to any political party tor-tns— himself to any political party for-this reason- himself to any political party for this reason that for exactly this reason that i neet— for exactly this reason that i neet to— for exactly this reason that i neet to de— for exactly this reason that i need to be control of what need to be in control of what tn — need to be in control of what tn saytng— need to be in control of what tn saytng ant— need to be in control of what i'm saying and doing. ti; i'm saying and doing. he's eatttng— i'm saying and doing. he's eatttng nts— i'm saying and doing. he's putting his lgbt labour activists, you know, in harm's way . they're saying, don't way. they're saying, we don't feel comfortable going out because representing because we're representing something that we don't really know we're representing know what we're representing like so he does need like you need. so he does need to think about this and to have a think about this and actually respect to actually show some respect to the the lgbt people that are the to the lgbt people that are putting energy to putting in time and energy to kind like make a position for kind of like make a position for laboun kind of like make a position for labour. lewis do they show

labour. but lewis do they show respect, because at respect, though? because at these marches— respect, though? because at these marches they- i 3“ because at these marches they wear these marches they all wear never-rosy- these marches they all wear never-rosy t- these marches they all wear never tory t shirts. never kissed a tory t shirts. ant— never kissed a tory t shirts. ant-tot- never kissed a tory t shirts. ant-tot tt- never kissed a tory t shirts. and lot 14 million and i mean a lot 14 million eeoete— and i mean a lot 14 million eeoete tn— and i mean a lot 14 million people in 2019— and i mean a lot 14 million people in 2019 voted for the conservative _ people in 2019 voted for the conservative party. imagine some of conservative party. imagine some ot tnen— conservative party. imagine some ot tnen nave— conservative party. imagine some of them have kissed a tory. well tney— of them have kissed a tory. well tney-nave. — of them have kissed a tory. well tney-nave. tn- of them have kissed a tory. well they-have. i'm not. of them have kissed a tory. welli they-have. i'm not here they probably have. i'm not here to tease— they probably have. i'm not here to police who people should and shouldn't be kissing. can shouldn't be kissing. they can kiss not kiss whoever kiss and not kiss whoever they want, it's divisive. that's want, but it's divisive. that's the point, right?— want, but it's divisive. that's the point, right? it's- t: . that's the point, right? it's divisive. tt-s— the point, right? it's divisive. tt-s a— the point, right? it's divisive. tt-s a very— the point, right? it's divisive. it's a very divisive landscape at tne— it's a very divisive landscape at the moment.— it's a very divisive landscape at the moment. _ it's a very divisive landscape at the moment. that is i was going to say, we've inarguable. i was just going to say, keir stamen— i was just going to say, keir starmer, the— i was just going to say, keir starmer, the fact that he can't tettne — starmer, the fact that he can't tettne vnat— starmer, the fact that he can't define what woman is, i do not define what a woman is, i do not tast— define what a woman is, i do not trast ntn— define what a woman is, i do not trast ntn tn— define what a woman is, i do not trust him in power— define what a woman is, i do not trust him in power to protect onty— trust him in power to protect women's only spaces, you know, tottets— women's only spaces, you know, toilets-example,— women's only spaces, you know, toilets example, can toilets for example, men can ttenttty— toilets for example, men can identify-woman- toilets for example, men can identify woman and then use identify as a woman and then use tnose—yoa- identify as a woman and then usei tnose—yoa tnov. those spaces or women, you know, vonen-s-seorts— those spaces or women, you know, vonen-s-seons .— those spaces or women, you know, women's-sports , for- women's only sports, for evanete— women's only sports, for evanete. t— women's only sports, for example. i don't trust that he nttt— example. i don't trust that he vttt-tnat. — example. i don't trust that he will-thatlthink- example. i don't trust that he will that. think that will protect that. i think that ntn— will protect that. i think that ntn-tn— will protect that. i think that ntn-tn gover- will protect that. i think that him-in power is- will protect that. i think that him in power is going to him being in power is going to put him being in power is going to eat-venen- him being in power is going to eat-nonen tn- him being in power is going to put women in danger. put so many women in danger. and i put so many women in danger. and t ton-t— put so many women in danger. and t ton-t vant— put so many women in danger. and t ton-t vant to— put so many women in danger. and i don't want to see— put so many women in danger. and i don't want to see him anywhere tanter— i don't want to see him anywhere tanter-t- i don't want to see him anywhere near number i mean, near number 10. well i mean, tavvrenseo-t- near number 10. well i mean, lawrence,-to you. i near number 10. well i mean,l lawrence,-to you. i'd lawrence, last word to you. i'd tett— lawrence, last word to you. i'd tett yea — lawrence, last word to you. i'd tett yea tnat— lawrence, last word to you. i'd tell you that the— lawrence, last word to you. i'd tell you that the lgb need to transition away from the tbc i plus plus, plus, plus, blah, blah, blah, because we, as i've

said before on this show, which is my show, which is strange, lesbian and gay and bisexual, i think even we've had a conversation about this. these are hardware issues.- conversation about this. these are hardware issues. the- 'tit“ these are hardware issues. the and all the are hardware issues. the and all tne rest— are hardware issues. the and all tne rest are— are hardware issues. the and all the rest are software issues . the rest are software issues. ant— the rest are software issues. ant as— the rest are software issues. ant as ts— the rest are software issues. and as is proving ever, ever the tnere— and as is proving ever, ever the case there, mental— and as is proving ever, ever the case there, mental health issues astaatty— case there, mental health issues astaatty. do— case there, mental health issues astaatty. so t— case there, mental health issues actually. so i 100%_ case there, mental health issues actually. so i 100% agree. you sannot— actually. so i 100% agree. you sannot nave— actually. so i 100% agree. you cannot have a— actually. so i 100% agree. you cannot have a leader of a eottttsat— cannot have a leader of a political party— cannot have a leader of a political party who cannot tettne— political party who cannot tettne any— political party who cannot define any simple binary in the most— define any simple binary in the nest tasts— define any simple binary in the most basic of— define any simple binary in the most basic of terms. and if you san-t— most basic of terms. and if you san-t to— most basic of terms. and if you san-t to tnat— most basic of terms. and if you can't do that, leave and get rid of can't do that, leave and get rid ot yoar— can't do that, leave and get rid of your actress— can't do that, leave and get rid of your actress . _ can't do that, leave and get rid of your actress . ”tttii; can't do that, leave and get rid of your actress . titititi; “t; l. of your actress. more coming up. so don't miss more from the panel and indeed , the fox who panel and indeed, the fox who can't be trusted, of course, to travel without a designated aduu travel without a designated adult . but anyway, we'll be back adult. but anyway, we'll be back

soon she cheers very much for joining me. darren grimes in for laurence fox, who's stranded himself abroad. anna mcgovern and lewis oakley are here chewing over some stories with hot to be served. hot opinions ready to be served. now, is quite horrible now, this is quite a horrible story, for many story, actually, for very many reasons, become reasons, which will become apparent very the apparent very quickly. the convicted who received convicted rapist who received life in 1988 for his grotesque attack on shirley woodman , has attack on shirley woodman, has been given access to the lotto jackpot that he won whilst in prison in 2004. now there's an awful lot to unpack here, so i'm going to turn to anna first. i mean, anna, first of all, i mean , he won it fair and square. so some people would say , well, we some people would say, well, we cannot be getting involved in what is a private transaction. i think this is a horrendous story— i think this is a horrendous story .— i think this is a horrendous story . ant.— i think this is a horrendous story . ant. yoa— i think this is a horrendous story . and, you know, it's an story. and, you know, it's an avtat— story. and, you know, it's an awful loophole— story. and, you know, it's an awful loophole that because he on ertson— awful loophole that because he was on prison leave, i believe, tne— was on prison leave, i believe, over the weekend— was on prison leave, i believe, over the weekend where he won, he over the weekend where he won, ne got— over the weekend where he won, ne got tnts— over the weekend where he won, he got this ticket— over the weekend where he won, he got this ticket and then won .-tnat— he got this ticket and then won .-tnat money— he got this ticket and then won

.-that money was- he got this ticket and then won . that money was in . all of that money was in a tegat— . all of that money was in a tegat ttseate— . all of that money was in a legal dispute. nato tried to get all legal dispute. nato tried to get at tnts— legal dispute. nato tried to get all this money,— legal dispute. nato tried to get all this money, shirley all this money, but shirley vtootnan— all this money, but shirley woodman,-was- all this money, but shirley woodman, was campaigner and woodman, she was campaigner and she woodman, she was campaigner and sne nanaget— woodman, she was campaigner and she managed. she— woodman, she was campaigner and she managed. she got obe, i detteve— she managed. she got obe, i tetteve .— she managed. she got obe, i tetteve . tor— she managed. she got obe, i believe , for actually turning believe, for actually turning tne— believe, for actually turning tne tav— believe, for actually turning the law around.— believe, for actually turning the law around. so victims could get compensation— the law around. so victims could get compensation for , you know, get compensation for, you know, for get compensation for, you know, tor seaat— get compensation for, you know, for sexual assault— get compensation for, you know, for sexual assault and rape . and for sexual assault and rape. and i for sexual assault and rape. and t tntnt— for sexual assault and rape. and t tntnt tnat— for sexual assault and rape. and i think that this— for sexual assault and rape. and i think that this is— for sexual assault and rape. and i think that this is , you know, i think that this is, you know, tnts— i think that this is, you know, tnts ts— i think that this is, you know, tnts ts tast— i think that this is, you know, this is just an— i think that this is, you know, this is just an awful thing that tve— this is just an awful thing that tve tast— this is just an awful thing that tve tast deen— this is just an awful thing that i've just been able to access att— i've just been able to access at ot— i've just been able to access at ot-noney.- i've just been able to access all of-money. i- i've just been able to access all of money. i think that all of this money. i think that if all of this money. i think that d nes— all of this money. i think that d ne-s traty— all of this money. i think that if he's truly remorseful, what ne-s— if he's truly remorseful, what ne-s-tnat— if he's truly remorseful, what he's-that should- if he's truly remorseful, what he's that should all go to he's done, that should all go to startty— he's done, that should all go to snarttleat— he's done, that should all go to snarttleat t— he's done, that should all go to charity..but i think- he's done, that should all go to charity. but i think the charity. he but i think the tntng— charity. he but i think the thing-rapists,- charity. he but i think the thing rapists, they are thing is, rapists, they are setttsn— thing is, rapists, they are selfish—he. selfish people. and he just wants— selfish people. and he just wants-tor— selfish people. and he just wants for himself. he's wants that for himself. so he's going— wants that for himself. so he's gotnglteee— wants that for himself. so he's goinglkeep rt.— wants that for himself. so he's going keep it. well, lewis, going to keep it. well, lewis, on-eotnt— going to keep it. well, lewis, on-eotnt at- going to keep it. well, lewis,- on-point at-daughter on anna's point at the daughter of on anna's point at the daughter ot sntrtey— on anna's point at the daughter of shirley woodman, shirley vtoott-s— of shirley woodman, shirley vvoott-s an— of shirley woodman, shirley woolf's an told— of shirley woodman, shirley woolf's an told the mirror she gave— woolf's an told the mirror she gave att— woolf's an told the mirror she gave at tne— woolf's an told the mirror she gave all the money away to snartty— gave all the money away to snanty ant— gave all the money away to charity and it's— gave all the money away to charity and it's what he should be charity and it's what he should de totng— charity and it's what he should de totng vttn— charity and it's what he should be doing with his— charity and it's what he should be doing with his money. ti; ti.s“ be doing with his money. he can do be doing with his money. he can to geot— be doing with his money. he can to geet nttt— be doing with his money. he can do good with that— be doing with his money. he can do good with that money like my mum did. what are you. yeah, i agree. he should give- mum did. what are you. yeah, i agree. he should give the- ti ti yeah, i agree. he should give the money away.— agree. he should give the money away. absolutely.— agree. he should give the money away. absolutely. mean , this away. absolutely. i mean, this is away. absolutely. i mean, this tslnorrttte— away. absolutely. i mean, this islhorrible story,— away. absolutely. i mean, this is horrible story, and kind of is a horrible story, and kind of saggests— is a horrible story, and kind of saggests tnat— is a horrible story, and kind of suggests that there is no such tntng— suggests that there is no such tttngltarna— suggests that there is no such thing karma. good good. thing as karma. good good. i tntnt— thing as karma. good good. i tntnt tne— thing as karma. good good. i think the thing— thing as karma. good good. i think the thing here, though, is we think the thing here, though, is ve nave— think the thing here, though, is we nave to— think the thing here, though, is es nave to to— think the thing here, though, is we have to do we— think the thing here, though, is we have to do we do have to tntnt— we have to do we do have to tntnt atoat— we have to do we do have to think about the _

we have to do we do have to think about the principle of tttngs— think about the principle of thinge-people- things. bad people that have tone— things. bad people that have tone-tntngs.— things. bad people that have done-things. can- things. bad people that have done things. can we if in done bad things. can we if in tnts— done bad things. can we if in tnts sase— done bad things. can we if in tnts sass-say— done bad things. can we if in this case-say this- done bad things. can we if in this case say this is this case we say this is outrageous, _ this case we say this is outrageous, this he shouldn't nave— outrageous, this he shouldn't nave-money.— outrageous, this he shouldn't have money, going have this money, we're going to go-tte— have this money, we're going to go-tte vtstt— have this money, we're going to go-it? well, what- have this money, we're going to go it? well, what does go and take it? well, what does tnat— go and take it? well, what does tnat-so— go and take it? well, what does that-so-criminall go and take it? well, what doesi that-so-criminal we that mean? so every criminal we get to— that mean? so every criminal we get to go— that mean? so every criminal we get to go ant— that mean? so every criminal we get to go and seize— that mean? so every criminal we get to go and seize their assets— get to go and seize their assets t— get to go and seize their assets, i don't- get to go and seize their assets, i don't know, like where toes— assets, i don't know, like where toes-teat— assets, i don't know, like where toes-teat to— assets, i don't know, like where does lead to morally if we does this lead to morally if we stan— does this lead to morally if we stan-tnate— does this lead to morally if we start -that?lmean,- start doing that? i mean, laurence you're about to laurence fox, you're about to see—dtson i see something non ofcom sonattant— see something non ofcom compliant, aren't you, about tnts— compliant, aren't you, about tnts story— compliant, aren't you, about tnts story a — compliant, aren't you, about this story ? you— compliant, aren't you, about this story ? /tit. is“ this story? you can have the money. you reckon he should have the money or not? yeah do what you want the money or not? yeah do what yoa vant vttn— the money or not? yeah do what you want with it.— the money or not? yeah do what you want with it. sorry.- the money or not? yeah do what you want with it. sorry. it's- you want with it. sorry. it's ate— you want with it. sorry. it's ttte tn— you want with it. sorry. it's like i'm really— you want with it. sorry. it's like i'm really sorry. i think i eat— like i'm really sorry. i think i eat tne— like i'm really sorry. i think i read the story. _ like i'm really sorry. i think i read the story. it's appalling vnat— read the story. it's appalling vnat ne— read the story. it's appalling vnat ne ttt— read the story. it's appalling what he did. it's— read the story. it's appalling what he did. it's vile. his the vtsttn-s— what he did. it's vile. his the victim's mother— what he did. it's vile. his the victim's mother managed to get the victim's mother managed to get tne tav— victim's mother managed to get the law changed— victim's mother managed to get the law changed so that better tntngs— the law changed so that better tntngs naeeen.— the law changed so that better things happen. which is a real geot— things happen. which is a real goot ae— things happen. which is a real goot ot— things happen. which is a real good use of the— things happen. which is a real good use of the money. but it tast— good use of the money. but it tast goes— good use of the money. but it tast goes to— good use of the money. but it just goes to show— good use of the money. but it just goes to show that you're evastty— just goes to show that you're evastty rtgnt.— just goes to show that you're exactly right. karma doesn't east.— exactly right. karma doesn't exist. especially— exactly right. karma doesn't exist. especially you don't get money— exist. especially you don't get money tor— exist. especially you don't get money for nothing. so just give ntn— money for nothing. so just give ntn tne— money for nothing. so just give ntn tne money— money for nothing. so just give him the money and let him do vnat— him the money and let him do vnat ne— him the money and let him do what he wants— him the money and let him do what he wants with it. i don't nave— what he wants with it. i don't nave a— what he wants with it. i don't nave a yoa— what he wants with it. i don't have a you know,— what he wants with it. i don't have a you know, i don't think we snoatt— have a you know, i don't think we snoatt te— have a you know, i don't think we should be impeding other eeoete-s— we should be impeding other eeoete-s tntngs— we should be impeding other people's things he should be people's things and he should be left people's things and he should be tettlttve— people's things and he should be tettlttve oat— people's things and he should be left-live out his— people's things and he should be left live out his horrible

left to live out his horrible ttttte— left to live out his horrible ttttte tne.— left to live out his horrible little life, rich _ left to live out his horrible little life, rich as he wants. tne— little life, rich as he wants. the state— little life, rich as he wants. the state should— little life, rich as he wants. the state should get- little life, rich as he wants. the state should get involved then how we cough up. then and say how we cough up. no, it's not our job. it's not no, it's not ourjob. it's not tne— no, it's not ourjob. it's not tne tot— no, it's not ourjob. it's not tne tot ot— no, it's not ourjob. it's not the job of the— no, it's not ourjob. it's not the job of the state to do that. he the job of the state to do that. as on— the job of the state to do that. he tt— the job of the state to do that. he tt ott— the job of the state to do that. he won it off some silly lottery tntng. — he won it off some silly lottery tntng. t— he won it off some silly lottery tntng. t mean— he won it off some silly lottery thing. i mean, that's why i ton-t— thing. i mean, that's why i ton-t day— thing. i mean, that's why i don't buy lottery tickets. i tntnt— don't buy lottery tickets. i think they're _ don't buy lottery tickets. i think they're bad. it's one of tne— think they're bad. it's one of tne very— think they're bad. it's one of tne very ten— think they're bad. it's one of the very few things i actually tett— the very few things i actually tett ny— the very few things i actually tett nny ttts— the very few things i actually tell my kids. i'm— the very few things i actually tell my kids. i'm like, don't buy— tell my kids. i'm like, don't day tottery— tell my kids. i'm like, don't buy lottery tickets. it's like, tell my kids. i'm like, don't blyou ttery tickets. it's like, tell my kids. i'm like, don't blyou haven'tkets. it's like, tell my kids. i'm like, don't blyou haven't earneds like, tell my kids. i'm like, don't blyou haven't earneds li look if you haven't earned it, look at-stortes— if you haven't earned it, look at-stories of- if you haven't earned it, look at stories of lottery at all the stories of lottery winners who've— at all the stories of lottery winners who've had a horrible, norrttte— winners who've had a horrible, horrible life— winners who've had a horrible, horrible life the _ winners who've had a horrible, horrible life the minute they ven—tnat- horrible life the minute they won. _that that. horrible life the minute they- won._that that money won. and i hope that that money is won. and i hope that that money ts-dtggest— won. and i hope that that money ts-ttggest neavy— won. and i hope that that money is biggest heavy curse is the biggest heavy curse aroant— is the biggest heavy curse around-neck. - is the biggest heavy curse around-neck. .i. is the biggest heavy curse around neck. i hope is the biggest heavy curse- around-neck.-i hope that around his neck. and i hope that he around his neck. and i hope that ne takes— around his neck. and i hope that ne tates tt— around his neck. and i hope that ne tates tt to— around his neck. and i hope that he takes it to .grave - around his neck. and i hope that he takes it to grave in he takes it to his grave in surface. yeah.- he takes it to his grave in surface. “415?" i “ e he takes it to his grave in surface. “415?" i“ . sg ”cc; surface. yeah. couldn't agree more. now our next story, then surface. yeah. couldn't agree more. n of our next story, then surface. yeah. couldn't agree more. n of the next story, then surface. yeah. couldn't agree more. n of the faithfulyry, then the end of the faithful tupperware. do you know what tupperware. and do you know what ihave tupperware. and do you know what i have to confess to viewers to make really make myself sound really thick? i actually didn't know that tupperware was a name. tupperware was a brand name. i just tupperware was, you just thought tupperware was, you know, a noun. but anyway, now you've into your know, a noun. but anyway, now you've and into your know, a noun. but anyway, now you've and until into your know, a noun. but anyway, now you've and until you've,tour know, a noun. but anyway, now you've and until you've, of r home. and until you've, of course, got a kitchen drawer or a crammed full these a cupboard crammed full of these handy plastic tubs called tupperware , i think that we've tupperware, i think that we've got a picture of louis and anna's that we asked you to prepare earlier. coming up on screen now . not there they are.

screen now. not there they are. who's is that? that's mine. that's that looks quite tidy actually. mine's keep a tidy house. yeah. actually. mine's keep a tidy house. yeah . i actually. mine's keep a tidy house. yeah. i don't actually. mine's keep a tidy house. yeah . i don't know why house. yeah. i don't know why i sound so there's not. i live in student accommodation- “i i live in student accommodation and you do not vant— student accommodation and you do not want to— student accommodation and you do not want to see— student accommodation and you do not want to see student kitchens . asas— not want to see student kitchens . asas attan— not want to see student kitchens . acas aidan mcgivern- not want to see student kitchens . acas aidan mcgivern your images in on there? no, my image is images in on there? no, my image ts not— images in on there? no, my image ts not on— images in on there? no, my image ts not on tnere— images in on there? no, my image is not on there. no.— images in on there? no, my image is not on there. no. right.- is not on there. no. right. tttgnt. — is not on there. no. right. tttgnt. vea— is not on there. no. right. right. you would not want to see tnat. — right. you would not want to see tnat. are— right. you would not want to see tnat. are yea— right. you would not want to see that. are you upset— right. you would not want to see that. ' ”ti: i. right. you would not want to see that. ' i. that. are you upset about the end of tupperware? um i think that it just shows about how societies kind of progressed. i think that the i think the- think that the i think the men are think that the i think the men tne— think that the i think the men are the media— think that the i think the men are the media because they're saytng— are the media because they're saytng tnat— are the media because they're saying that actually this is tonn— saying that actually this is town to— saying that actually this is down to the _ saying that actually this is down to the fact that, you know, rtgnts— down to the fact that, you know, women's rights women, you know, ton-t— women's rights women, you know, tent—tntngs- women's rights women, you know, don't things anymore. don't need these things anymore. vean. — don't need these things anymore. vean. -.— don't need these things anymore. vean.-. tents— don't need these things anymore. yeah. -, lewis suggested. don't need these things anymore. /tis' w don't need these things anymore. /tisi tidti;.. “t: that maybe we're just getting rid of plastic outright . what do rid of plastic outright. what do you think of this ? i mean, i you think of this? i mean, i think you think of this? i mean, i tntnt tt-s— you think of this? i mean, i think it's just— you think of this? i mean, i think it's just a— you think of this? i mean, i think it's just a trend- 57 i mean, i think it's just a trend where i ttrnt— think it's just a trend where i tntnt. yoa— think it's just a trend where i think, you know,— think it's just a trend where i think, you know, you've got access to more— think, you know, you've got access to more fast food, for evanete— access to more fast food, for evanete. so— access to more fast food, for example. so people are cooking tess— example. so people are cooking tess-yoa-ve— example. so people are cooking less-you've-women- example. so people are cooking less you've women who less and you've got women who are-none so t- less and you've got women who are more. so i think are working more. so i think tnat— are working more. so i think tnat-ttnt— are working more. so i think that-kindlshows- are working more. so i think that kind shows that that this kind of shows that eeoete— that this kind of shows that eeoete aent—

that this kind of shows that people aren't actually cooking as-dat— people aren't actually cooking as-dat tn— people aren't actually cooking as-but in terms- people aren't actually cooking as but in terms of as much. but in terms of taggervare— as much. but in terms of tupperware also, as much. but in terms of. tupperware also,-to as much. but in terms of- tupperware also,-to use tupperware also, i prefer to use statt— tupperware also, i prefer to use statt tnat— tupperware also, i prefer to use stuff that isn't— tupperware also, i prefer to use stuff that isn't plastic eersonatty— stuff that isn't plastic personally, not personally, so i'm not devastated- personally, so i'm not devastated about the end of taeeervare— devastated about the end of tupperware either. but yeah , i tupperware either. but yeah, i tntnt— tupperware either. but yeah, i tntnt tnts— tupperware either. but yeah, i think this just— tupperware either. but yeah, i think this just shows about how sostety— think this just shows about how sostety ts— think this just shows about how society is progressing. yeah i ts tnat— society is progressing. yeah i mean, is that right- society is progressing. yeah g“. 7 yeah. i mean, is that right? yeah. i mean, is that right? yeah. i mean, i'm in your- 37 yeah. i mean, i'm in your camp g“.7 yeah. i mean, i'm in your camp where mean, is that right? yeah. i- mean, i'm in your camp where who tnen— mean, i'm in your camp where who knew anttt— mean, i'm in your camp where who knew anttt tnts— mean, i'm in your camp where who knew until this story— mean, i'm in your camp where who knew until this story that it tne— knew until this story that it was the brands— knew until this story that it was the brands .- knew until this story that it was the brands . we obviously was the brands. we obviously neet— was the brands. we obviously neet etastts— was the brands. we obviously need plastic. as— was the brands. we obviously need plastic. as a dad of three, i need plastic. as a dad of three, t neet— need plastic. as a dad of three, t neet etastts— need plastic. as a dad of three, i need plastic containers to teen— i need plastic containers to keep tntngs— i need plastic containers to keep things fresh in and send tnen— keep things fresh in and send tnen ott— keep things fresh in and send them off with.— keep things fresh in and send them off with. but do i need to be them off with. but do i need to de paying?— them off with. but do i need to be paying? probably the prices tnat— be paying? probably the prices tnat tnat— be paying? probably the prices that that these _ be paying? probably the prices that that these people are ottertng— that that these people are ottertng .— that that these people are offering . and,— that that these people are offering . and, you know, i do offering. and, you know, i do tntnt— offering. and, you know, i do tntnt tnere— offering. and, you know, i do think there probably is an environmental— think there probably is an environmental thing to it where if environmental thing to it where tt-gotng— environmental thing to it where tt-gotnglseent- environmental thing to it where if going spend well, if you're going to spend well, i ton-t— if you're going to spend well, i ton-t tnov— if you're going to spend well, i don't knowllike_ if you're going to spend well, i don't know like let's guess £15 don't know, like let's guess £15 on on a container,— don't know, like let's guess £15 on on a container, you probably want— on on a container, you probably want tt— on on a container, you probably want tt to— on on a container, you probably want tt to de— on on a container, you probably want it to be glass— on on a container, you probably want it to be glass and sustainable.— want it to be glass and sustainable. whereas with me, it's sustainable. whereas with me, tt-s-ts— sustainable. whereas with me, tt-s-ts vnat- sustainable. whereas with me, it's-is what the,- sustainable. whereas with me, it's is what the, the it's like this is what the, the tateoat— it's like this is what the, the takeout came— it's like this is what the, the takeout came in— it's like this is what the, the takeout came in yesterday . nana takeout came in yesterday. nana lawrence have— takeout came in yesterday. nana lawrence have it— takeout came in yesterday. nana lawrence have it with that i'm. sane—testerate sure you're absolutely desperate to—tttsnen- sure you're absolutely desperate to—tttsnen ts- to ensure your kitchen is sustainable— to ensure your kitchen is sustainable. - to ensure your kitchen is sustainable . o“ to ensure your kitchen is- sustainable . oh yeah , i always sustainable. oh yeah, i always am. i've sustainable. oh yeah, i always tve got— sustainable. oh yeah, i always tve got a— sustainable. oh yeah, i always am. i've got a lot— sustainable. oh yeah, i always am. i've got a lot of- sustainable. o“ gti;s“ i've got a lot of little am. i've got a lot of little tntngs— am. i've got a lot of little

tntngs tn— am. i've got a lot of little things i'm going- i've got a lot of little things i'm going to put stuff in ant— things i'm going to put stuff in ant sent— things i'm going to put stuff in and send them— things i'm going to put stuff in and send them off. but i think it's and send them off. but i think tt-s a— and send them off. but i think tt-s a stgn— and send them off. but i think tt-s a stgn ot— and send them off. but i think it's a sign of the— and send them off. but i think it's a sign of the times that we've become— it's a sign of the times that we've become the little generatton— we've become the little generation that moan at us for detng— generation that moan at us for gang, yoa— generation that moan at us for tetng. yoa know.— generation that moan at us for being, you know, bad with carbon oree-w— being, you know, bad with carbon oters-w meant- being, you know, bad with carbon or-we're meant to- being, you know, bad with carbon or we're meant to be or whatever. we're meant to be totng.— or whatever. we're meant to be totng. vntsn— or whatever. we're meant to be totng. vntsn ts— or whatever. we're meant to be doing, which is wrong at the ttne.— doing, which is wrong at the same time, live— doing, which is wrong at the same time, live the most ttseosatte— same time, live the most disposable there possibly same time, live the most disp(is.ble there possibly same time, live the most disp(is. ie there possibly same time, live the most disp(is. i think there possibly same time, live the most disp(is. i think they possibly same time, live the most disp(is. i think they were ibly ever is. i think they were tatttng— ever is. i think they were talking-fact. ever is. i think they were. talking-fact that ever is. i think they were- talking-fact that the talking about the fact that the santo— talking about the fact that the sarton-ot— talking about the fact that the sarton-of a— talking about the fact that the carbon-of a child- talking about the fact that the carbon of a child born carbon footprint of a child born ts— carbon footprint of a child born ts many— carbon footprint of a child born now is many-more- carbon footprint of a child born now is many more than what now is many times more than what my now is many times more than what ny-voatt— now is many times more than what ny-voatt-tone.- now is many times more than what my-would-done, for. my mother would have done, for evanete— my mother would have done, for evanete. so— my mother would have done, for evanete. so t— my mother would have done, for example. so i think it's also a sat— example. so i think it's also a sad reflection— example. so i think it's also a sad reflection on— example. so i think it's also a sad reflection on where society is sad reflection on where society ts tn— sad reflection on where society ts tn tne— sad reflection on where society ts tn tne tast— sad reflection on where society is in the fact that— sad reflection on where society is in the fact that we don't setetrate— is in the fact that we don't celebrate the _ is in the fact that we don't celebrate the family, we don't setetrate — celebrate the family, we don't celebrate somebody, know, celebrate somebody, you know, tnngtng— celebrate somebody, you know, trtngtng tne— celebrate somebody, you know, bringing the whole thing togetten— bringing the whole thing together, husband the together, the husband or the one. — together, the husband or the wife. - matter. - together, the husband or the wife. _matter. we. together, the husband or the- wife. _matter. we seem wife. it doesn't matter. we seem to-erogresset— wife. it doesn't matter. we seem to progressed quickly to have progressed so quickly tnat—no- to have progressed so quickly tnat—no one- to have progressed so quickly that—no one to. to have progressed so quickly. that—no one to look that now there's no one to look atten— that now there's no one to look atter tne— that now there's no one to look after the kids.— that now there's no one to look after the kids. therefore we ton-t— after the kids. therefore we ton-t neet— after the kids. therefore we don't need tupperware and we ton-t— don't need tupperware and we don't - leftovers. - don't need tupperware and we don't-leftovers. - don't need tupperware and we don't leftovers. “ don't need leftovers. i mean, tents.— don't need leftovers. i mean, tents. te— don't need leftovers. i mean, tents. te yea— don't need leftovers. i mean, lewis, do you worry about that? no. looking after and no. i'm looking after kids and i stttt— no. i'm looking after kids and i stttt neet— no. i'm looking after kids and i still need tupperware. it's all tts— still need tupperware. it's all tt-s. t— still need tupperware. it's all tt-s. t ton-t— still need tupperware. it's all it's. i don't really— still need tupperware. it's all it's. i don't really think that we it's. i don't really think that ve—tntsl we need to overthink this. it's tast— we need to overthink this. it's tast-drant— we need to overthink this. it's just-brand dying,- we need to overthink this. it's just brand dying, and just one brand dying, and tnere-s— just one brand dying, and tnere-s gotng— just one brand dying, and there's going be loads of there's going to be loads of alternatives— there's going to be loads of alternatives-are- there's going to be loads of alternatives are cheaper in alternatives that are cheaper in the alternatives that are cheaper in tne—tov - alternatives that are cheaper in tne—tov att- alternatives that are cheaper in. the—now all right. alternatives that are cheaper in- the_now all right. the supermarket. now all right. nov— the supermarket. now all right. tov-yoa— the supermarket. now all right. tov-yoa sayt— the supermarket. now all right. tov-yoa saye nov- the supermarket. now all right. how-you say? how dare- the supermarket. now 3“. how you say? how dare you how dare you say? how dare you say-san-t— how dare you say? how dare you say-san-t get— how dare you say? how dare you say-san-t get on- how dare you say? how dare you say-can't get on a- say that? i can't get on a plane?— say that? i can't get on a plane?itried_ say that? i can't get on a plane? tried get on the plane? i tried to get on the

trans. — plane? i tried to get on the trans. toa— plane? i tried to get on the plane. you tried— plane? i tried to get on the plane. you tried to get on the plane? — plane. you tried to get on the plane? teat.— plane. you tried to get on the plane? yeah, that's- plane. you tried to get on the plane? / plane? yeah, that's what he says. that's says . you says. that's what he says. you tried so hard to get on that plane. he was having margarita plane. he was having a margarita before show . now i find you before the show. now i find you very much for joining before the show. now i find you very much forjoining me before the show. now i find you very much for joining me tonight . now to lawrence for attempting to actually do some work today. i'm very grateful. and of course, to anna mcgovern and lewis hinckley, who did actually show . now, up next is show up. now, coming up next is the brit ant mark dolan mark, what's on the show tonight ? what's on the show tonight? darren, what a brilliant effort . really enjoyed the show this eventng. — . really enjoyed the show this eventng. vtstt— . really enjoyed the show this evening. well, i'll— really enjoyed the show this evening. well, i'll be dealing vttn— evening. well, i'll be dealing vntn roe— evening. well, i'll be dealing with joe biden. _ evening. well, i'll be dealing with joe biden. he have a with joe biden. does he have a nrotten— with joe biden. does he have a problem .britain- with joe biden. does he have a problem .britain ,- with joe biden. does he have a problem britain , one that's problem with britain, one that's soveret— problem with britain, one that's soveret tn— problem with britain, one that's soveret tn ny— problem with britain, one that's covered in my 9:00. big opinion . tan.— covered in my 9:00. big opinion . tan. dras— covered in my 9:00. big opinion . tan. dtas tn— covered in my 9:00. big opinion , ian. plus, i'm joined in the tnst— , ian. plus, i'm joined in the ttrst near— , ian. plus, i'm joined in the ttrst noar ty— , ian. plus, i'm joined in the first hour by radio and fleet street— first hour by radio and fleet street legend— first hour by radio and fleet street legend mike porky parry. tots— street legend mike porky parry. tots ot— street legend mike porky parry. tots ot dtg— street legend mike porky parry. lots of big stories— street legend mike porky parry. lots of big stories to get our teetn— lots of big stories to get our teetn tnte— lots of big stories to get our teeth into, including the junior tostors— teeth into, including the junior doctors strike.— teeth into, including the junior doctors strike. i'll— teeth into, including the junior doctors strike. i'll be asking vnetner— doctors strike. i'll be asking whether those _ doctors strike. i'll be asking whether those listening and vatsntng— whether those listening and watching the— whether those listening and watching the show support these strttes— watching the show support these strttes .— watching the show support these strttes . vvttt— watching the show support these strikes . will people die? will strikes. will people die? will neattn— strikes. will people die? will neattn te— strikes. will people die? will health be curtailed in this soantrye— health be curtailed in this country? plus,— health be curtailed in this country? plus, we got tomorrow's eaters—

country? plus, we got tomorrow's papers at— country? plus, we got tomorrow's papers at tdsd— country? plus, we got tomorrow's papers at 1030 sharp with full danet— papers at 1030 sharp with full panel reaction.— papers at 1030 sharp with full panel reaction. it's all to mart— panel reaction. it's all to come. mark dolan tonight. don't go anyvnere.— come. mark dolan tonight. don't go anyvnere. — come. mark dolan tonight. don't go anyvnere. dn— come. mark dolan tonight. don't go anywhere. 0“ gift come. mark dolan tonight. don't go anywhere. cit“ gilt: go anywhere. oh, yes, mark. nette— go anywhere. oh, yes, mark. netto tnere— go anywhere. oh, yes, mark. hello there. i'm— go anywhere. oh, yes, mark. hello there. i'm clare- go anywhere. cit“ gilt: hello there. i'm clare nasir vttn— hello there. i'm clare nasir vttn yoar— hello there. i'm clare nasir with your weather update now for the with your weather update now for tne veetent. — with your weather update now for the weekend. it's— with your weather update now for the weekend. it's turning drier ant— the weekend. it's turning drier and warmer for— the weekend. it's turning drier and warmer for most, although we will and warmer for most, although we vttt see— and warmer for most, although we vttt sene— and warmer for most, although we will see some rain— and warmer for most, although we will see some rain in— and warmer for most, although we will see some rain in the nortn—vest— will see some rain in the north—west on- will see some rain in the north—west on sunday. and for the north—west on sunday. and for tne ttne— north—west on sunday. and for the time being,— north—west on sunday. and for the time being, low pressure stttt— the time being, low pressure stttt tn— the time being, low pressure still in charge— the time being, low pressure still in charge through friday eventng— still in charge through friday eventng ant— still in charge through friday evening and overnight. this veatner— evening and overnight. this weather-here- evening and overnight. this weather here sliding down weather front here sliding down tovarts— weather front here sliding down tovarts-tov— weather front here sliding down towards low countries, but towards the low countries, but —sonneto- towards the low countries, but some _to come. towards the low countries, but. some _to come into some wet weather to come into the some wet weather to come into tne ttrst— some wet weather to come into tne ttrst nan— some wet weather to come into the first part of— some wet weather to come into the first part of saturday norntng— the first part of saturday morning-far. morning across the far south—east. - morning across the far south—east. elsewhere, can south—east. elsewhere, you can see—tn- south—east. elsewhere, you can see—tn tron | see this ridge moving in from the see this ridge moving in from tne-ant— see this ridge moving in from the _and _that- the west. and what that means, gateter— the west. and what that means, quieter conditions— the west. and what that means, quieter conditions through satartay.— quieter conditions through saturday. this— quieter conditions through saturday. this here through saturday. this rain here through satartay— saturday. this rain here through saturday morning, though, will grataatty— saturday morning, though, will grataatty gnnt— saturday morning, though, will gradually grind to a halt across more eastern counties, elsewhere tnroagn— more eastern counties, elsewhere tnroagn-earty— more eastern counties, elsewhere through early hours, clearer through the early hours, clearer stres— through the early hours, clearer sttes-oat— through the early hours, clearer skies-out-frost- skies watch out for a frost across northern- skies watch out for a frost across northern ireland and esten— across northern ireland and western scotland . more breeze western scotland. more breeze tonn— western scotland. more breeze down towards— western scotland. more breeze down towards west country , down towards the west country, teeetng — down towards the west country, keeping temperatures here sttgntty— keeping temperatures here sttgntty-ant- keeping temperatures here slightly-and a- keeping temperatures here slightly and a bright slightly higher and a bright norntng— slightly higher and a bright morning come— slightly higher and a bright morning come saturday across nast— morning come saturday across nasn ot— morning come saturday across much of scotland— morning come saturday across much of scotland away from the soatn—east— much of scotland away from the south—east northern ireland, nonnvest— south—east northern ireland,| northwest—and south—east northern ireland,- northwest_and the northwest england, wales and the vest—tne— northwest england, wales and the west—the midlands. west country. even the midlands seetng— seeing that cloud erode away, the seeing that cloud erode away, tne ratn— seeing that cloud erode away, the rain slowly— seeing that cloud erode away, the rain slowly clears through

the rain slowly clears through tne ttrst— the rain slowly clears through tne ttrst eart— the rain slowly clears through the first part of— the rain slowly clears through the first part of the day tovarts— the first part of the day towards the _ the first part of the day towards the south—east, brighter stres— towards the south—east, brighter sttes ennege — towards the south—east, brighter skies emerge. what that skies emerge. and what that means, see some sunshine. means, we'll see some sunshine. dat— means, we'll see some sunshine. dat tnat— means, we'll see some sunshine. dat tnat sa— means, we'll see some sunshine. but that sun could— means, we'll see some sunshine. but that sun could-1- means, we'll see some sunshine. but that sun could 1 2 but that sun could spark 1 or 2 sovversn— but that sun could spark 1 or 2 showers through— but that sun could spark 1 or 2 showers through afternoon , showers through the afternoon, anyvnere — showers through the afternoon,j anywhere _towards anywhere from borders towards tent— anywhere from borders towards tent .— anywhere from borders towards kent . elsewhere,— anywhere from borders towards kent . elsewhere, a fine end to kent. elsewhere, a fine end to tne— kent. elsewhere, a fine end to tne-a— kent. elsewhere, a fine end to tne-a trtgnt— kent. elsewhere, a fine end to the-a bright one,- kent. elsewhere, a fine end to the a bright one, also the day, a bright one, and also warmer temperatures , typically warmer temperatures, typically aroant— warmer temperatures, typically aroant tt— warmer temperatures, typically aroant n or— warmer temperatures, typically around 14 or 15 c.— warmer temperatures, typically around 14 or 15 c. now through satartay— around 14 or 15 c. now through saturday evening.— around 14 or 15 c. now through saturday evening. watch as this stoat— saturday evening. watch as this stoat stovty— saturday evening. watch as this cloud slowly thickens from the vest. — cloud slowly thickens from the vest. tt— cloud slowly thickens from the vest. tt nttt— cloud slowly thickens from the west. it will grind— cloud slowly thickens from the west. it will grind to a halt across north—west of the across the north—west of the soantny— across the north—west of the soantry. eernaes— across the north—west of the country, perhaps a little more stoat— country, perhaps a little more. cloud _towards cloud just moving down towards the cloud just moving down towards tne—see- cloud just moving down towards tne—see sonel the southeast. will see some stearer— the southeast. will see some clearer-here.- the southeast. will see some clearer-here. and- the southeast. will see some clearer here. and that's clearer skies here. and that's vnere— clearer skies here. and that's where-lowest— clearer skies here. and that's where lowest temperatures clearer skies here. and that's wheibe. lowest temperatures clearer skies here. and that's wheibe. certainly temperatures clearer skies here. and that's wheibe. certainly atmperatures clearer skies here. and that's wheibe. certainly a bit eratures clearer skies here. and that's wheibe. certainly a bit eraaires will be. certainly a bit of a snttty— will be. certainly a bit of a snttty stan— will be. certainly a bit of a chilly start to _ will be. certainly a bit of a chilly start to the day on santay.— chilly start to the day on santay. dat— chilly start to the day on sunday, but it'll be a damp norntng— morning across western and nonnern— morning across western and nonnern pans— morning across western and northern parts of scotland, tonnern — northern parts of scotland, northern _ islei northern parts of scotland,i northern _ isle of northern ireland, the isle of mant— northern ireland, the isle of man. eernaes— northern ireland, the isle of man, perhaps cumbria, down man, perhaps even cumbria, down tovarts— man, perhaps even cumbria, down tenants—ot- towards the western side of tansasntre— towards the western side of tansasntre .— towards the western side of lancashire . temperatures lancashire. the temperatures nere— lancashire. the temperatures nee-ae— lancashire. the temperatures here up elsewhere here will hold up elsewhere nee.— here will hold up elsewhere nere. as— here will hold up elsewhere nere. as t— here will hold up elsewhere here, as i said,— here will hold up elsewhere here, as i said, a— here will hold up elsewhere here, as i said, a bit of a cool start— here, as i said, a bit of a cool startlsantay.— here, as i said, a bit of a cool start-sunday, but- here, as i said, a bit of a cool start sunday, but the cloud start on sunday, but the cloud nttt— start on sunday, but the cloud vttt-asross— start on sunday, but the cloud will across eastern will break across eastern soantes — will break across eastern counties. .far- will break across eastern counties. far north of counties. the far north of ssottant.— counties. the far north of scotland,-some. counties. the far north of- scotland,-some sunshine scotland, seeing some sunshine tnytng— scotland, seeing some sunshine trytnglasross— scotland, seeing some sunshine drying across northern drying up across northern tretant— drying up across northern ireland-the- drying up across northern ireland the afternoon ireland through the afternoon as we ireland through the afternoon as ve-atn tast— ireland through the afternoon as we rain just become we see that rain just become sonttnet— we see that rain just become confined-more— we see that rain just become. confined-more-parts confined to more western parts of confined to more western parts ot ssottant. — confined to more western parts of scotland. .here's- confined to more western parts of scotland. here's your of scotland. and here's your oattoot— of scotland. and here's your outlook into— of scotland. and here's your outlook into next week. it's try.— outlook into next week. it's try. tt-s— outlook into next week. it's try. as ttne— outlook into next week. it's try. as ttne .— outlook into next week. it's dry. it's fine , high pressure

dry. it's fine, high pressure ant—nttt- dry. it's fine, high pressure and—with somej and fairly warm with some sansntne— and fairly warm with some sansntne .— and fairly warm with some sunshine . mark dolan tonight is sunshine. mark dolan tonight is tast— sunshine. mark dolan tonight is tast tnts— sunshine. mark dolan tonight is back this evening— sunshine. mark dolan tonight is back this evening in the company of back this evening in the company ot toarnattst— back this evening in the company of journalist mike— back this evening in the company of journalist mike parry,

boss like a stubborn case of chlamydia . i'm back. welcome to chlamydia. i'm back. welcome to mark dolan tonight. i hope you had a cracking easter. what a busy show we've got for you . is busy show we've got for you. is a summer migrant crisis heading our way amid a lack of evidence. they work. is it time to consign masks to the dustbin of history? and after a humiliating elon musk interview, are the bbc guilty of misinformation and censorship? plus, my take on the junior doctors strike. and i won't be pulling my punches a lively three hours to come. lots to get through. but first, the

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