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with comedian bruce devlin . but with comedian bruce devlin. but first, before we get started- with comedian bruce devlin. but first, before we get started ,- first, before we get started, tee-e— first, before we get started, tee-e gee— first, before we get started, tee-e get your— first, before we get started, let's get your latest news headlines— let's get your latest news headlines ._ let's get your latest news headlines . _ let's get your latest news headlines . c: let's get your latest news- headlines . good afternoon . it's headlines. good afternoon. it's 3:00.— headlines. good afternoon. it's eeoo. rm— headlines. good afternoon. it's 3:00. i'm arron— headlines. c: it's 3:00. i'm arron armstrong in headlines. c: " it's 3:00. i'm arron armstrong in the gb neweoom.— 3:00. i'm arron armstrong in the gb newsroom. the— 3:00. i'm arron armstrong in the gb newsroom. the government's under— gb newsroom. the government's uroer presse— gb newsroom. the government's under pressure to— gb newsroom. the government's under pressure to prevent the mosr— under pressure to prevent the mosr errerre— under pressure to prevent the most extreme nurses strike yet errer— most extreme nurses strike yet are rhe— most extreme nurses strike yet after the latest— most extreme nurses strike yet after the latest pay offer was rer-eereo— after the latest pay offer was rer-eereo ore— after the latest pay offer was rejected and members from the royal— rejected and members from the rover college— rejected and members from the royal college of— rejected and members from the royal college of nursing voted ogorrsr— royal college of nursing voted ogorrsr rhe— royal college of nursing voted against the 5%_ royal college of nursing voted against the 5% pay rise, meaning mrs— against the 5% pay rise, meaning nus nuses— against the 5% pay rise, meaning nus rn— against the 5% pay rise, meaning nhs nurses in emergency neponnenrs— nhs nurses in emergency departments and intensive care onu— departments and intensive care and cancer wards— departments and intensive care and cancer wards will take rnuusrnor— and cancer wards will take industrial action for the first one — industrial action for the first one rne— industrial action for the first one rne rs— industrial action for the first time. the 48 hour walkout will soon— time. the 48 hour walkout will soon on— time. the 48 hour walkout will soon on me— time. the 48 hour walkout will start on the 30th— time. the 48 hour walkout will start on the 30th of this month. noueer— start on the 30th of this month. nowee nor— start on the 30th of this month. however for 74%_ start on the 30th of this month. however for 74% of— start on the 30th of this month. however for 74% of unison rnernens— however for 74% of unison members voted— however for 74% of unison members voted to accept the same one. — members voted to accept the same often we— members voted to accept the same offer. the shadow— members voted to accept the same offer. the shadow business seererorw— offer. the shadow business secretary, jonathan reynolds , secretary, jonathan reynolds, sows— secretary, jonathan reynolds, sows renow— secretary, jonathan reynolds, says labour would abolish non—ourn — says labour would abolish non—dom status to help ease the wus— non—dom status to help ease the wns — non—dom status to help ease the wns ru— non—dom status to help ease the nhs crisis. i'd say— non—dom status to help ease the nhs crisis. i'd say what we can reu— nhs crisis. i'd say what we can reu non — nhs crisis. i'd say what we can tell from what— nhs crisis. i'd say what we can tell from what we've seen wesreroow— tell from what we've seen wesreruow rs— tell from what we've seen yesterday is first of all a resolution— yesterday is first of all a resolution is— yesterday is first of all a resolution is relatively close. i resolution is relatively close. r rnrnw— resolution is relatively close. r think we— resolution is relatively close. i think the government- resolution is relatively close. i think the government should have negotiated sooner. the shows. this was always

resolvable. this has always been yes, it's also yes, about pay, but it's also been about the burden, the workload nhs are under. workload nhs staff are under. and you take our plan, which and if you take our plan, which is to abolish the non—dom super tax for very wealthy tax regime for very wealthy people, that revenue over £3 people, use that revenue over £3 billion to expand the nhs workforce , you're giving people workforce, you're giving people some some of the some hope that some of the pressures under in pressures they're under in future going to be resolved. future are going to be resolved. and i that's all they've and i think that's all they've ever from the government. ever asked from the government. meanwhile while the shadow armed forces minister has told gb news a blind eye is being turned to predators around parliament, luke pollard has described westminster as the most unprofessional workplace he's encountered. so speaking to mono— encountered. so speaking to more oe— encountered. so speaking to gloria de piero,_ encountered. so speaking to gloria de piero, the- rz;t.r:::r. “ui�*lfic so speaking to gloria de piero, the mp who resenrw— gloria de piero, the mp who recently announced he'll be sreoorng— recently announced he'll be srepprng noon— recently announced he'll be stepping back from politics, sows— stepping back from politics, sows warns— stepping back from politics, says victims of— stepping back from politics, says victims of abuse and ourwrng— says victims of abuse and nurwrng ore— says victims of abuse and bullying are repeatedly being let bullying are repeatedly being rer down.— bullying are repeatedly being rer uown. r— bullying are repeatedly being let down. i still— bullying are repeatedly being let down. i still don't think westminster— let down. i still don't think westminster is— let down. i still don't think westminster is a safe place to work— westminster is a safe place to work ,— westminster is a safe place to work , especially— westminster is a safe place to work , especially for many of the work, especially for many of the young— work, especially for many of the young rnernens— work, especially for many of the young members of— work, especially for many of the young members of staff that mps ennrow— young members of staff that mps enprow . — young members of staff that mps employ . anu— young members of staff that mps employ . one we— young members of staff that mps employ. r: young members of staff that mps employ . ' r: young members of staff that mps employ . ' employ. and we know that there are predators around westminster that sometimes is allowed to that are sometimes is allowed to continue to or a blind eye

turned . and i want to see that turned. and i want to see that changed because i think westminster should embody the very best of our country. it should be a place that people aspire to get elected to and then want to change the world from a position of strength. and i'm afraid that at the moment i sometimes feel westminster lets the country down. i the rest of the country down. i can see the full interview with luke — can see the full interview with luke -on — can see the full interview with luke-on gloria- can see the full interview with luke on gloria meets luke pollard on gloria meets ronorrow or— luke pollard on gloria meets tomorrow at 6:00. now three peoore— tomorrow at 6:00. now three peopre nove— tomorrow at 6:00. now three people have been arrested on suspicion— people have been arrested on suspreron or— people have been arrested on suspicion of conspiracy to cause public— suspicion of conspiracy to cause punne nursonee— suspicion of conspiracy to cause public nuisance. ahead of the ennu— public nuisance. ahead of the grand national.— public nuisance. ahead of the grand national. hundreds of oerrwsrs— grand national. hundreds of activists are— grand national. hundreds of activists are to— grand national. hundreds of activists are to try to prevent rne— activists are to try to prevent rne rose— activists are to try to prevent the race from _ activists are to try to prevent the race from going ahead by erroenrng— the race from going ahead by attaching themselves to fences nong— attaching themselves to fences along rne— attaching themselves to fences along the course— attaching themselves to fences along the course at aintree. the annot— along the course at aintree. the anrnor nsne— along the course at aintree. the animal rising campaign group sows— animal rising campaign group sows rr-s— animal rising campaign group sows rr-s ro— animal rising campaign group says it's to highlight the broken— says it's to highlight the broken relationship between nurnons— broken relationship between nurnons onu— broken relationship between humans and animals. 60 horses newe— humans and animals. 60 horses nowe eree— humans and animals. 60 horses nowe new or— humans and animals. 60 horses have died at the— humans and animals. 60 horses have died at the grand national resrwor— have died at the grand national festival since— have died at the grand national festival since 2000. that's more men— festival since 2000. that's more rnon rwo— festival since 2000. that's more rnon rwo per— festival since 2000. that's more than two per year. _ festival since 2000. that's more than two per year. police say rnew— than two per year. police say rnew nove— than two per year. police say rnew nowe o— than two per year. police say they have a robust plan in place to they have a robust plan in place ro prevenr— they have a robust plan in place to prevent disruption. the head of to prevent disruption. the head or we— to prevent disruption. the head or rne jockey— to prevent disruption. the head of the jockey club, nevin truesdale,_ of the jockey club, nevin truesdale, says the action could be dangerous. — truesdale, says the action could be dangerous. g rz;,>s

police , with other stakeholders police, with other stakeholders in the region and their own security teams to make sure that we're taking all the steps we possibly can to prevent such a such a protest, possibly can to prevent such a such a protest , a possibly can to prevent such a such a protest, a rising probably need to just reflect on whether positive thing whether it's a positive thing for to be seeking to for their cause to be seeking to curtail and indeed destroy the enjoyment of millions watching and thousands on the track, as well as endangering themselves. the jockeys, the officials and nosr— the jockeys, the officials and most importantly of all, from rnerr— most importantly of all, from rnerr pornr— most importantly of all, from their point of— most importantly of all, from their point of view and from our nonr— their point of view and from our porn on— their point of view and from our pornr or wew— their point of view and from our point of view, the— their point of view and from our point of view, the horses that new— point of view, the horses that new purpon— point of view, the horses that new ouroon ro— point of view, the horses that they purport to protect . they purport to protect. demonstrators have gathered in london-s— demonstrators have gathered in london's-square- demonstrators have gathered in london's square to london's trafalgar square to pores— london's trafalgar square to protest against— london's trafalgar square to protest against the expansion of the protest against the expansion of rne-row— protest against the expansion of the-low emission- protest against the expansion of the low emission zone. �*" the ultra low emission zone. if it goes— the ultra low emission zone. if n goes onero— the ultra low emission zone. if n goes green .— the ultra low emission zone. if it goes ahead , drivers- the ultra low emission zone. if it goes ahead , drivers in- the ultra low emission zone. if it goes ahead , drivers in outer it goes ahead, drivers in outer london will have to pay £12.50 per day. if their vehicles don't meet emission standards . five meet emission standards. five conservative led councils , conservative led councils, though, have launched legal action against the plan . but the action against the plan. but the mayor of london's office calls the challenge costly and misguided and argues the proposal is life saving . proposal is life saving. ukrainian officials say its

forces are finding more components from china in russian weapons used in the war. now, china has repeatedly denied sending military equipment to russia since moscow's invasion in february last year. however, the recent leaked us military documents claim beijing has approved the provision of lethal aid to russia, but wants its shipments to remain a secret . shipments to remain a secret. china's defence minister is scheduled to arrive in russia tomorrow for a four day visit . tomorrow for a four day visit. around a quarter of young people are living in poor quality housing. that's according to the latest research . the think tank, latest research. the think tank, the resolution foundation says 26% of 18 to 24 year olds live in damp buildings without electricity. heating or plumbing. the company also found those living in such conditions are twice as likely to experience ill health. and the scottish government is considering drafting in the army as a replacement for a key highland ferry service. the ship that normally makes the five minute crossing of loch linni

broke down last friday, leading to a 42 mile diversion . it to a 42 mile diversion. it normally carries more than 270,000 cars a year as a foot passenger service is operated twice a day . this is gb news twice a day. this is gb news more as it happens, but now it's over to nana . over to nana. good afternoon . it's just coming good afternoon. it's just coming up ro— good afternoon. it's just coming up ro seven— good afternoon. it's just coming up to seven minutes— t: it'sjust coming up to seven minutes after 3:00. rnrs— up to seven minutes after 3:00. rnrs rs— up to seven minutes after 3:00. run is en— up to seven minutes after 3:00. this is gb news— up to seven minutes after 3:00. this is gb news on— up to seven minutes after 3:00. this is gb news on tv,- up to seven minutes after 3:00. this is gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. we are the people's channel. _ and on digital radio. we are the people's channel. i'm- e�*t: r: g ”er: we are the people's channel. i'm nana rer�*r: r: g ”err: we are the people's channel. i'm nana akua. anu— people's channel. i'm nana akua. and now— people's channel. i'm nana akua. anu nrs— people's channel. i'm nana akua. and now it's time— people's channel. i'm nana akua. and now it's time to— people's channel. i'm nana akua. and now it's time to mock- people's channel. i'm nana akua. and now it's time to mock the week. and it's been a pretty nuenw— week. and it's been a pretty nuenw ore— week. and it's been a pretty mucky old week. _ and it's been a pretty mucky old week. we've had a nueww— mucky old week. we've had a nuenw ore— mucky old week. we've had a mucky old time— mucky old week. we've had a mucky old time prince harry oner— mucky old time prince harry after providing— mucky old time prince harry after providing proving that his new— after providing proving that his new geron— after providing proving that his new town rs— after providing proving that his bald patch is actually bigger rnon— bald patch is actually bigger rnon nrs— bald patch is actually bigger than his brother's and coming to the than his brother's and coming to we un— than his brother's and coming to the uk unnecessarily for a court ease-ne— the uk unnecessarily for a court ease-ne own-r— the uk unnecessarily for a court case he didn't actually case that he didn't actually need— case that he didn't actually need-attend— case that he didn't actually need attend has finally need to attend has finally eonrrrneu— need to attend has finally confirmed that— need to attend has finally confirmed that he will be coming to confirmed that he will be coming| ro—wegnon to the coronation without meghan . wegnnn— to the coronation without meghan . wegnnn wru—

to the coronation without meghan . meghan will remain- to the coronation without meghan . meghan will remain in- . meghan will remain in california for allegedly for her son prince prince archie's birthday day. sarah ferguson. rnnee— birthday day. sarah ferguson. prince andrew,— birthday day. sarah ferguson. prince andrew, his— sarah ferguson. prince andrew, his ex—wife, has arso— prince andrew, his ex—wife, has orso nor— prince andrew, his ex—wife, has orso nor been— prince andrew, his ex—wife, has also not been invited , which is also not been invited, which is wew— also not been invited, which is wew sensors— also not been invited, which is very sensible, really, frankly . very sensible, really, frankly. worn— very sensible, really, frankly. worn nns— very sensible, really, frankly. worry has re— very sensible, really, frankly. harry has to come.— very sensible, really, frankly. harry has to come. really. he needs the title of the wise. how is he going to make any money? he's not exactly the brightest spark, he ? now, we've had spark, is he? now, we've had four— spark, is he? now, we've had our news— spark, is he? now, we've had our news or— spark, is he? now, we've had four days of doctors- 7 now, we've had four days of doctors strike, junior—forl junior doctors asking for a nureurous— junior doctors asking for a ridiculous 35%_ junior doctors asking for a ridiculous 35% pay rise. �*rfrrrrzi; r: ridiculous 35% pay rise. we'd all ridiculous 35% pay rise. we'd nu rowe— ridiculous 35% pay rise. we'd all love that. _ ridiculous 35% pay rise. we'd all love that. one— ridiculous 35% pay rise. we'd all love that. one of the doctors who led the charge , dr. doctors who led the charge, dr. robert laurenson , who is robert laurenson, who is a british medical association union boss. they're the union rnor— union boss. they're the union that represent— union boss. they're the union that represent the— c. " rzzr" they're the union that represent the doctors c. " rift" they're the union that represent the doctors well. nes— that represent the doctors well. ne-s reorng — that represent the doctors well. ne-s reorng n— that represent the doctors well. he's facing a lot— that represent the doctors well. he's facing a lot of— that represent the doctors well. he's facing a lot of criticism because instead of going to the strike, he all booked out strike, he had it all booked out as so that he could go as holiday. so that he could go to a wedding, leaving the rest of junior doctors to stage of the junior doctors to stage the 96 walkout out when you the 96 hour walkout out when you couldn't either. couldn't make that up either. now, biden, he's back in couldn't make that up either. now, he biden, he's back in couldn't make that up either. now, he came, he's back in couldn't make that up either. now, he came to e's back in couldn't make that up either. now, he came to ireland; in couldn't make that up either. now, he came to ireland ,in couldn't make that up either. now, he came to ireland , a town. he came to ireland, a gene— town. he came to ireland, a gene prone— town. he came to ireland, a gaffe prone friend . remember gaffe prone friend. remember rnrse— gaffe prone friend. remember rnrse heres— gaffe prone friend. remember this? here's a— gaffe prone friend. remember this? here's a reminder. all the way— this? here's a reminder. all the wow untr— this? here's a reminder. all the way until november, we got more questions. you got more questions. you got more questions. but i tell it, if you have a problem figuring out

whether me or trump, whether you're for me or trump, then ain't black . yeah, then you ain't black. yeah, right, mate . and he also fell up right, mate. and he also fell up the stairs when attempting to board air force one on his way to atlanta to he trying to recover by giving a salute to the top . though that didn't the top. though that didn't really work out . i mean, if really work out. i mean, if you're watching now, you can see it happening. it doesn't fall once, not twice , but three times once, not twice, but three times haha. once, not twice, but three times haha . you can obviously watch haha. you can obviously watch that on the gb news app, but he's now climbing to the top of the steps where he is now about to do his salute. just say nothing to see here folks. nothing to see here. and our very own dave arlene foster actually called him out for actually called him out for actually things regarding his visit. the established media picked up on it as well. i think we need to find out why that was the case and his administration should be asked why he did not think it suitable to fly the national flag of northern ireland when he was in this jurisdiction because if i hope it's not the case that he

doesn't recognise northern ireland's place within the united kingdom, which of course is part of the belfast agreement. but it will be very rnreresrrng— agreement. but it will be very rnreresrrng ro— agreement. but it will be very interesting to hear— ’rg”riilriil7�*rii“c but it will be very interesting to hear what rrgtiniwrzi“ but it will be very interesting to hear what the administration— interesting to hear what the administration has to say in region— administration has to say in rerorron . — administration has to say in relation . she— administration has to say in relation . r: relation. she also said that he hates this country a lot of people saying that he it people saying that he hates it as i don't think joe as well, but i don't think joe actually knows what country he's actually knows what country he's actually in either. what's going on? actually in either. what's going one con— actually in either. what's going one can we— actually in either. what's going on? can we please— actually in either. what's going on? can we please be- t “ ri; what's going on? can we please be honest neree— on? can we please be honest neree wouru— on? can we please be honest here? would you _ on? can we please be honest here? would you trust man here? would you trust that man wrrn— here? would you trust that man wrrn-snrnw— here? would you trust that man wrrn-snrnw urg— here? would you trust that man with-shiny big red- here? would you trust that man with shiny big red button? with the shiny big red button? i with the shiny big red button? r non-r— with the shiny big red button? r uon-r rnrnw— with the shiny big red button? i don't think so.— with the shiny big red button? i don't think so. and- with the shiny big red button? i don't think so. and of- with the shiny big red button? i don't think so. and of course, this we've seen this week we've seen the backlash budweiser their backlash for budweiser and their use dental mulvaney. use of dental and mulvaney. i wrote in the daily mail wrote about it in the daily mail this week. we spoke about nike and the fact that they used dylan, a flat chested non sporty trans man. sorry trans woman. he's a man, though, to promote women's sports bras. there's currently a burn— women's sports bras. there's currently a burn a— women's sports bras. there's currently a burn a nike- “ there's currently a burn a nike bra enouenge— currently a burn a nike bra challenge doing the rounds and now customers— challenge doing the rounds and now customers are— challenge doing the rounds and now customers are boycotting nuuwerser— now customers are boycotting nuuwerser. — now customers are boycotting budweiser. �*rfrrrri; ”ri; now customers are boycotting budweiser. we've apparently lost over $6 billion off their stocks . go woke, go broke . it's been a . go woke, go broke. it's been a mucky old week , though. there's

mucky old week, though. there's no stink . we have a thing here no stink. we have a thing here normally, just so you know, right? this is what's coming up in the next hour. love it when in the next hour. i love it when that happens. don't you just love just around love that? just pamper it around . comedian devlin be . comedian bruce devlin will be joining studio joining me in the studio for mock where be mock the week, where we'll be discussing this week's top stories prince stories from prince harry's decision to attend the coronation. to all the other stories pointed out stories that i pointed out earlier you've how earlier. you've seen how president behaves well, as president biden behaves well, as quite embarrassing, delaying . quite embarrassing, delaying. we'll looking at how one we'll be looking at how one militant doctor who helped coordinate strikes time coordinate the strikes is time to holiday instead of to go on holiday instead of negotiate it after mock the week. it's time for climate control and this week, minister for london paul scully and senior jim dale senior meteorologist jim dale will be joining me to discuss the london mayor, khan's the london mayor, sadiq khan's controversial plans expand controversial plans to expand ulez . and now low emission zones ulez. and now low emission zones are across the country ulez. and now low emission zones ar

monologue and today i'll be talking about how companies, a lot going broke and some lot of them going broke and some of them are heading towards broke the broke and they'll suffer the consequences. won't want consequences. you won't want to miss that's coming in miss that. that's coming up in the next hour. as ever, tell me everything you think. tell me what and what we're what you think and what we're discussing. gb views discussing. email gb views at gbnews.uk tweet at . gb gbnews.uk or tweet me at. gb news. right. so joining me now is comedian bruce devlin. bruce, thank you very much for joining me. nice to see you. nice to see you.so me. nice to see you. nice to see you. so what do you think then? let's coronation, let's start with the coronation, shall going. i shall we? harry is going. i thought i knew meghan thought he would. i knew meghan wouldn't want to show her face. what's thought? what's what's your thought? what's your take the take on it? i do stand by the fact that a couple that fact that for a couple that seemed very keen more seemed very, very keen on a more private they seem more out private life, they seem more out there and famous than ever sort of thing. i think it's right rnor— of thing. i think it's right no ne-s— of thing. i think it's right that he's going- of thing. i think it's right that he's going to- “g i think it's right that he's going to his dad's ooronoronr — that he's going to his dad's coronation. i— that he's going to his dad's coronation. i didn't expect her to coronation. i didn't expect her ro go— coronation. i didn't expect her ro go errner. — coronation. i didn't expect her ro go errner. r— coronation. i didn't expect her to go either. i know there's sonernrng— to go either. i know there's something to— to go either. i know there's something to do with a wee baby and something to do with a wee baby onulnrnnuow— something to do with a wee baby andlbirthdav paw-— something to do with a wee baby and birthday party. yeah. and a birthday party. yeah. ven— and a birthday party. yeah. very-vern— and a birthday party. yeah. . very-yeah-nice. very very nice. yeah very nice. very nice. maybe oprah will go to that yeah, she might go

that oprah? yeah, she might go to that oprah? yeah, she might go ro—nrnnuow- that oprah? yeah, she might go ro—nrnnuow - that oprah? yeah, she might go to_birthday. yeah,. to the baby's birthday. yeah, pernnps. — to the baby's birthday. yeah, pernnps. r— to the baby's birthday. yeah, perhaps. i don't— to the baby's birthday. yeah, perhaps. i don't-ii perhaps. i don't think so. i eon-r— perhaps. i don't think so. i eon-r rnrnw— perhaps. i don't think so. i don't think she's. - i don't think so. i don't think she's. she likes ner— don't think she's. she likes ner-rne— don't think she's. she likes her. the embarrassment her. after the embarrassment. neeouseou—r because, of course, we found out rnor— because, of course, we found out rnor-rregnon- that that what meghan was referring— that that what meghan was referring ro — that that what meghan was referring to was not something rnor— referring to was not something no ws— referring to was not something that was racist— referring to was not something that was racist at— referring to was not something that was racist at all. so i'm wondering.— that was racist at all. so i'm wondering, though, if meghan will be watching at home the will be watching at home on the television ? i don't think so. do television? i don't think so. do your— television? i don't think so. do you? r— television? i don't think so. do you? r rnrnn— television? i don't think so. do you? i think she'll— television? i don't think so. do you? i think she'll be- rir“7 i don't think so. do you? i think she'll be doing a yoga-— you? i think she'll be doing a yoga- oo— you? i think she'll be doing a yoga- no you— you? i think she'll be doing a yoga. do you think she's more unen— yoga. do you think she's more uwewlne— yoga. do you think she's more likely-be calming- yoga. do you think she's more likely be calming kids likely to be calming the kids oner—nnul likely to be calming the kids. after—kind of after the nanny? that kind of thing. i'm getting thing. although i'm getting concerned about his carbon footprint because seems to be footprint because he seems to be up the air quite a lot. yes. up in the air quite a lot. yes. and i'm pretty sure he'll be coming— and i'm pretty sure he'll be coming-private- and i'm pretty sure he'll be coming private jet. and coming on a private jet. and i rnrnw— coming on a private jet. and i think apparently— coming on a private jet. and i think apparently i heard they nou— think apparently i heard they had—whichl had a bombardierjet which gives out had a bombardierjet which gives our—rrnes- had a bombardierjet which gives out—times more. had a bombardierjet which givesi out—times more co2 out apparently 60 times more co2 rnon— out apparently 60 times more co2 rnon o— out apparently 60 times more co2 rnon o nonnat— out apparently 60 times more co2 than a normal jet.— out apparently 60 times more co2 than a normal jet. oh i'm not up on oworron— than a normal jet. oh i'm not up on aviation, so— than a normal jet. oh i'm not up on aviation, so i'll— than a normal jet. oh i'm not up on aviation, so i'll take that as on aviation, so i'll take that us gosgeu — on aviation, so i'll take that us gosger. nur— on aviation, so i'll take that as gospel. but do- on aviation, so i'll take that as gospel. r:rir on aviation, so i'll take that- as gospel. but do you know , did as gospel. but do you know, did william and kate not once fly commercial? they william and kate not once fly commercial ? they do. they fly commercial? they do. they fly eornrnereror— commercial? they do. they fly commercial a— commercial? they do. they fly commercial a.of_ commercial? they do. they fly commercial a.of-timel t”rt. e7 they do. they fly commercial a of time. commercial a lot of the time. oh,— commercial a lot of the time. on. yeah- ngnn— commercial a lot of the time. oh, yeah. right. and- commercial a lot of the time. q“ right. and then commercial a lot of the time. cir“ right. and then but oh, yeah. right. and then but a lot oh, yeah. right. and then but a or or— oh, yeah. right. and then but a or or geogre— oh, yeah. right. and then but a lot of people are— cir“ right. and then but a lot of people are saying that us— lot of people are saying that its-runes— lot of people are saying that it's-that's preventedl lot of people are saying that. it's-that's prevented her it's kate. that's prevented her from seems to be from coming this seems to be some drums the some kind of drums in the background, beating out that song. know, song. i mean, i don't know, believe not, i don't know

believe it or not, i don't know any of them. don't any any of them. so i don't have any i don't any of them. so i don't have any idon't them. oh, any of them. so i don't have any i don't them. oh, i know. i don't know them. oh, i know. i know. i know some other old queens. but that's about the height it. a few height of it. and a few princesses. oh, that's. yeah, there's those princesses. oh, that's. yeah,| there's-those about, there's plenty of those about, our. — there's plenty of those about, our. -rnew- there's plenty of those about, nun-wew sow- there's plenty of those about, nun-wew sow r- there's plenty of those about, but. they say i think but. yeah, but they say i think wnor—rs- but. yeah, but they say i think what—is kate. but. yeah, but they say i think what—is kate isi what it is obviously is kate is pronoun— what it is obviously is kate is pronoun-wor- what it is obviously is kate is probably that she's not probably relieved that she's not coming— probably relieved that she's not coming os— probably relieved that she's not eonrng as we— probably relieved that she's not coming as we all— probably relieved that she's not coming as we all are. am coming as we all are. i am renewed— coming as we all are. i am relieved she's— coming as we all are. i am relieved she's not coming as we all are. i am. relieved she's not-are relieved she's not coming are wou— relieved she's not coming are you—r- relieved she's not coming are you—r own-r- relieved she's not coming are. you._| didn't want you. i don't want. i didn't want wegnon—noue- you. i don't want. i didn't want. meghan—made perfect meghan to come. it made perfect sense-shouldn't- meghan to come. it made perfect sense shouldn't come. sense that she shouldn't come. why— sense that she shouldn't come. whv_ _ sense that she shouldn't come. wnw— sue-s- sense that she shouldn't come. wnw— sne-s so- why would you? she's so embarrassing. after- why would you? she's so emtsaid,sing. after- why would you? she's so emtsaid, ing. after- why would you? riwisaid, i just. ter why would you? she's so emtsaid, i just. irr- why would you? riwisaid, i just. “r: she said, ijust. i kind of think that he really does have kyiv a neck. know, a brass kyiv a neck. you know, a brass neck that blowtorch wouldn't neck that a blowtorch wouldn't mark like seriously spilling out all that stuff really personal details about him and his guns last words. and do you not think rnor-s— last words. and do you not think rnor-s eonrng— last words. and do you not think that's coming from _ : and do you not think that's coming from him? ri; that's coming from him? he knows wnnr-s— that's coming from him? he knows when going— that's coming from him? he knows what's going on. what about budweiser? because, you know, you've happened. you've seen what's happened. obviously, used dylan obviously, they used dylan mulvaney to promote the beers celebrating days celebrating 365 days of womanhood, caricature womanhood, making a caricature of a woman as though we all just slap of lipstick, put slap on a load of lipstick, put on a dress. and that's it. you're doesn't work you're a woman. it doesn't work like that. i mean, i find that quite offensive. i didn't like the with nick as the whole thing with nick as well. promoting women's well. him promoting a women's

sports bras. but he's a flat chested i think the bud chested man. i think the bud thing. audrey hepburn in nreowrosr— thing. audrey hepburn in breakfast at— “g audrey hepburn in breakfast at tiffany's never wonk— breakfast at tiffany's never want nun— breakfast at tiffany's never drank bud light, as far as i'm . sne— drank bud light, as far as i'm aware . she drank— drank bud light, as far as i'm aware . she drank the was it the aware. she drank the was it the wnrre— aware. she drank the was it the we anger— aware. she drank the was it the we anger or— aware. she drank the was it the white angel or the whisper? no, the white angel or the whisper? no, rne wnrsgenng— white angel or the whisper? no, the whispering angels, the wine. and the whispering angels, the wine. ann-o— the whispering angels, the wine. ann-o neody— the whispering angels, the wine. and-a heady mix- the whispering angels, the wine. and a heady mix of vodka and it was a heady mix of vodka onu— and it was a heady mix of vodka and gin.— and it was a heady mix of vodka and grnlwou— and it was a heady mix of vodka and gin. you wouldn't have and gin. so you wouldn't have seen-working— and gin. so you wouldn't have seen-walking up- and gin. so you wouldn't have seen walking up down seen her walking up and down nun— seen her walking up and down fifth-looking- seen her walking up and down fifth looking that fifth avenue looking into that snoo— fifth avenue looking into that snog wrnuow— fifth avenue looking into that shop window with a can like some ruene— shop window with a can like some were wouru— shop window with a can like some jackie would lthe _ shop window with a can like some jackie would the street. jackie would in the street. rnor-s— jackie would in the street. rnor-s wnor— jackie would in the street. that's what we _ jackie would in the street. that's what we would say in serrano,— that's what we would say in scotland,-but- that's what we would say in scotland,-but ,- that's what we would say in scotland, but , but yeah, scotland, ehm, but, but yeah, i eon-r—rnew-we- don't know. i mean they've onwousw— don't know. i mean they've obviously - so - don't know. i mean they've obviously so that we're obviously done it so that we're rowing— obviously done it so that we're rowing-n.— obviously done it so that we're rowing-n. r— obviously done it so that we're talking-it. i think- obviously done it so that we're talking it. i think that's talking about it. i think that's the talking about it. i think that's rne rung.— talking about it. i think that's rne rnrng. so— talking about it. i think that's the thing. so there has been and i the thing. so there has been and r-wnor— the thing. so there has been and r-wnor-sowngl the thing. so there has been and. i-what-saying, what i know what we were saying, what you — i know what we were saying, what you sowng— i know what we were saying, what you were saying about the loss of you were saying about the loss or—nusr- you were saying about the loss or—nusr havel of money, but they must have earned— of money, but they must have reouseu-wos- realised that that was a gossrnrurw. — realised that that was a possibility. really. no i think rnew— possibility. really. no i think rnew-sone— possibility. really. no i think they-some woke- possibility. really. no i think they some woke middle they had some woke middle rnonoerg— they had some woke middle rnonoerg wno— they had some woke middle manager who like the vp for manager who was like the vp for roonng— manager who was like the vp for roowng oner— manager who was like the vp for looking after the— manager who was like the vp for looking after the marketing for nun— looking after the marketing for our ugnr. — looking after the marketing for bud light. and— looking after the marketing for bud light. “r: t. bud light. and unfortunately she there's a whole clip of her going and i just want to, you know, just bring in a new side and then just to get rid of the frat brothers and then then then. the end, course, then. and in the end, of course, well, disappeared well, her profile disappeared off linkedin quite quickly. right do it will bring right do you think it will bring a right do you think it will bring

mg“ do you think it will bring a new a new consumer, 33“ do you think it will bring a new a new consumer, a new a new a new consumer, a new eusornerer— customer? no, unfortunately not. wo. wo— customer? no, unfortunately not. wo. wo. neeouse— customer? no, unfortunately not. \rrir no, because know that no. no, because i know that a lot no. no, because i know that a or or— no. no, because i know that a or or geogre— no. no, because i know that a lot of people will— \ no, because i know that a lot of people will from what r-we— lot of people will from what we renu— lot of people will from what we read on— lot of people will from what i've read on this,— lot of people will from what i've read on this, lot of i've read on this, a lot of geogre— i've read on this, a lot of geogre rnor— i've read on this, a lot of people that bud light, people that were bud light, narrowe— people that were bud light, hardcore, - know, - people that were bud light, hardcore, know, fans, hardcore, you know, fans, rnew-we — hardcore, you know, fans, rnew-we -ro - hardcore, you know, fans, they've -to but they've now gone to kurz. but rnew-re— they've now gone to kurz. but were no— they've now gone to kurz. but they're now upset— they've now gone to kurz. but they're now upset because they found— they're now upset because they round-nove- they're now upset because they found -have been- found that kurz have been sponsonng— found that kurz have been sponsoring and found that kurz have been- sponsoring-and prides sponsoring lgbtqai+ and prides and sponsoring lgbtqai+ and prides one rnrngs— sponsoring lgbtqai+ and prides one rnrngs nor— sponsoring lgbtqai+ and prides and things for many years . and things for many years. wew.— and things for many years. wow. you— and things for many years. wew. you see— and things for many years. well, you see, you- and things for many years. well, you see, you know what? i don't i don't know whether it was much that as the fact was so much that as the fact that first mulvaney didn't was so much that as the fact that firrto mulvaney didn't was so much that as the fact that firrto know mulvaney didn't was so much that as the fact that firrto know anything' didn't was so much that as the fact that firrto know anything aboutt appear to know anything about the thing she the whole sports thing that she was and also dylan was promoting. and also dylan mulvaney, could even see mulvaney, you could even see something. okay. yeah, whatever team yeah. and it was team. yeah. so go. and it was like she had no idea about the core people who would drink this dnnk. core people who would drink this drink . it clear that she drink. and it was clear that she probably drank it either. probably never drank it either. i think that did drink i do think that she did drink it, i do think that she did drink gl— i do think that she did drink rrlr rnrnn— i do think that she did drink it,-i think that- i do think that she did drink it, i think that her bit at it, but i think that her bit at we— it, but i think that her bit at rne-onu— it, but i think that her bit at rne-onu go- it, but i think that her bit at the and go team. that it, but i think that her bit at- the-and go team. that was the end go and go team. that was nor— the end go and go team. that was rnor-wos— the end go and go team. that was rnor-wos now— that was that was how being funny— that was that was how being runny-ner- that was that was how being funny her pretending to that was that was how being fur ditzy. her pretending to that was that was how being furditzy. that her pretending to that was that was how being furditzy. that was. pretending to that was that was how being furditzy. that was. thatznding to that was that was how being fur ditzy. that was. that wasig to be ditzy. that was. that was nor— be ditzy. that was. that was we es— be ditzy. that was. that was that was him _ be ditzy. that was. that was that was him knowing that he neon-r— that was him knowing that he neon-rue— that was him knowing that he hadn't-a clue— that was him knowing that he hadn't a clue what was hadn't got a clue what he was reining— hadn't got a clue what he was talking about. _ hadn't got a clue what he was talking about. -do- hadn't got a clue what he was talking about. r:rir talking about. what do you think? calling think? i've of calling her she now he hasn't even now because he hasn't even changed his name. right. what do you president. you think? joe biden, president. there states there he is, united states leader free world. leader of the free world. there's a frailty isn't

there's a frailty there, isn't rneree — there's a frailty there, isn't there? -little- there's a frailty there, isn't there? -little just. there's a frailty there, isn't there? -little just al there's a frailty there, isn't- there? -little just a wee there? just a little just a wee bit, because i watched clip bit, because i watched that clip of going up the stairs and i of him going up the stairs and i thought, oh, because you know what's happen ? and you what's going to happen? and you just must just think, how much pain must you be— just think, how much pain must you be ine— just think, how much pain must you be no and— just think, how much pain must you be in? and reminds you be in? and he reminds me a bit you be in? and he reminds me a on une— you be in? and he reminds me a bit like because— you be in? and he reminds me a bit like because he— you be in? and he reminds me a bit like because he is so gaffe pone— bit like because he is so gaffe pone po— bit like because he is so gaffe pone do you— bit like because he is so gaffe prone, do you remember when nrrrnew— prone, do you remember when nnrnew speers— prone, do you remember when britney spears did prime in rune— britney spears did prime in prime-brighton- britney spears did prime in prime brighton and she prime pride in brighton and she went— prime pride in brighton and she went soon— prime pride in brighton and she went, good evening, manchester for end— went, good evening, manchester for end r— went, good evening, manchester for and i think— went, good evening, manchester for and i think this— went, good evening, manchester for and i think this kind of erenenrs— for and i think this kind of elements between that i mean i eon-r— elements between that i mean i eon-r ne-s— elements between that i mean i done ne-s gorng— elements between that i mean i don't he's going to— elements between that i mean i don't he's going to do any enoreogrepnw— don't he's going to do any choreography any of that kind choreography or any of that kind of sun— choreography or any of that kind of sun pur— choreography or any of that kind of stuff but-does- choreography or any of that kind of stuff but does seem to of stuff but there does seem to be e— of stuff but there does seem to be e on— of stuff but there does seem to be e on no— of stuff but there does seem to be a bit no one— of stuff but there does seem to be a bit no one wants to be ages or wnerewer.— be a bit no one wants to be ages or whatever, but— be a bit no one wants to be ages or whatever, but they do go for a or whatever, but they do go for e-nerure— or whatever, but they do go for e-nerure-r- or whatever, but they do go forj a-mature-i think a more mature leader. i think nes— a more mature leader. i think he's thinking standing again he's thinking of standing again as well. i mean, i don't know, just in general. as well. i mean, i don't know, just in general . very good. just in general. very good. i like that . yeah. i don't think like that. yeah. i don't think he i don't think he's fit to be able to. i mean, look, this is it's like the emperor and his clothes. he's not wearing any. we can all see that he's. he's ill. he needs some sort of medical attention to me. that's what i see. and somebody like this, should they should move him really put somebody him aside. really put somebody in of knows what

in who kind of knows what they're doing. but who would rnew— they're doing. but who would rnew-rn— they're doing. but who would rnew-rn ger— they're doing. but who would rnew-rn ger nu— they're doing. but who would they-in, get rid of- ”ri; r:rir “3 but who would they in, get rid of them they get in, get rid of them gr.— they get in, get rid of them gr, eer— they get in, get rid of them all, get trump— they get in, get rid of them all, get trump trump back in. go.— all, get trump trump back in. we. nes— all, get trump trump back in. we. here nor. — all, get trump trump back in. no, he's not. no,— all, get trump trump back in. no, he's not. no,-they- no, he's not. no, but they can't. i mean, they've got kamala harris. oh, yeah , kamala harris. oh, yeah, epsorurew.— kamala harris. oh, yeah, absolutely. i'd— oh, yeah, absolutely. i'd completely rorgorren— absolutely. i'd completely forgotten about her. they could rusr— forgotten about her. they could just-up— forgotten about her. they could rusr-up .— forgotten about her. they could r-usr-up . ween.- forgotten about her. they could just up . yeah. yeah. just bump her up. yeah. yeah. sne-s— just bump her up. yeah. yeah. sne-s propepw— just bump her up. yeah. yeah. she's probably due pay rise. she's probably due a pay rise. t hey— she's probably due a pay rise. rnew rnrnw— she's probably due a pay rise. they think everyone's- she's probably due a pay rise. they think everyone's forgotten about her. and then, of course, we the doctor who did you we had the doctor who did you read about this? one of the sort of leading figures of the bma getting everybody to strike and pushing forward with it. but then when the strike came, he was off on his holidays. and in fact, today, yeah,— was off on his holidays. and in fact, today, yeah, to— was off on his holidays. and in fact, today, yeah, to a- fact, today, yeah, to a wedding. nur— fact, today, yeah, to a wedding. nus rnrs— fact, today, yeah, to a wedding. out this we— fact, today, yeah, to a wedding. but this was apparently- fact, today, yeah, to a wedding. but this was apparently it- fact, today, yeah, to a wedding. but this was apparently it was a holiday, so he would have booked it. so he gets paid normally. do you think was to avoid do you think this was to avoid nrssrng— do you think this was to avoidi nrssrng—po missing any paid holidays? do you-rust — missing any paid holidays? do wou-r-usr. wew.- missing any paid holidays? do you-just. well, he's. you think i just. well, he's wealthy. mean, from wealthy. i mean, he's from a wealthy. i mean, he's from a wealthy thing, whole the wealthy thing, but the whole the opfics wealthy thing, but the whole the optics aren't good. i mean, you've got everybody you've you've got everybody these some these people are taking some sort cut for strike. sort of pay cut for the strike. you're getting full pay. you're getting your full pay. you've holiday. you're you've gone on holiday. you're not participating. but not even participating. but that's too. if that's the whole thing, too. if youe— that's the whole thing, too. if you-re—goou- that's the whole thing, too. if you-re—goou or| you're there for the good of your—enu- you're there for the good of your- and you'vei you're there for the good of- your- and you've done your profession and you've done your—wer- your training and all that kind

of your training and all that kind or-enu— your training and all that kind or-enu-wenr- your training and all that kind of and want better of thing and you want a better deer— of thing and you want a better steep for— of thing and you want a better steep for you— of thing and you want a better deal for you and _ of thing and you want a better deal for you and your colleagues,- deal for you and your colleagues, then why aren't you were—one- colleagues, then why aren't you there—off? it- there for the hand off? it uoesn-r— there for the hand off? it doesn't seem _ there for the hand off? it doesn't seem particularly great, noes—nonr- doesn't seem particularly great, does—don't know. i does it? no. so i don't know. and— does it? no. so i don't know. ann—very- does it? no. so i don't know.| ann—very young. does it? no. so i don't know. and joe very young, does it? no. so i don't know. and joe lookstery young, does it? no. so i don't know. and joe looks ary young, does it? no. so i don't know. and joe looks a wee ung, does it? no. so i don't know. and joe looks a wee bit|, does it? no. so i don't know. and joe looks a wee bit old, whereas joe looks a wee bit old, but whereas joe looks a wee bit old, our r-n— whereas joe looks a wee bit old, but i'm somewhere— whereas joe looks a wee bit old, but i'm somewhere in the middle. but but i'm somewhere in the middle. our—rooneui but no, he looked like he looked like but no, he looked like he looked rrwelwery— but no, he looked like he looked rrwelwery young— but no, he looked like he looked likelvery young-so- like a very young man. so i eon-r— like a very young man. so i eon-r know.— like a very young man. so i don't know. i— like a very young man. so i don't know. i think he's getting a don't know. i think he's getting e or— don't know. i think he's getting e or or— don't know. i think he's getting a lot of stick— don't know. i think he's getting a lot of stick for— don't know. i think he's getting a lot of stick for it— don't know. i think he's getting a lot of stick for it anyway, pur— a lot of stick for it anyway, our we-u— a lot of stick for it anyway, but we'll see. _ a lot of stick for it anyway, but we'll see. t rri; “ but we'll see. bruce devlin, thank you so much. thank you. thank you so much. bruce will be on later on tonight. on headline later on tonight. this a news here with me. this is a gb news here with me. i'm nana akua. and we're live on tv online on digital radio. tv online and on digital radio. after time for after the break. it's time for climate i'll climate control. i'll be speaking the minister speaking to the minister for london, paul scully. a meteorologist, jim dale about london sadiq khan's london mayor sadiq khan's controversial plan expand controversial plan to expand ulez. .

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and on digital radio. i'm nana akua. and now it's time for some climate control. so to discuss the latest on climate change, joining me is london with discussing london mayor sadiq khan. he's not coming in. he won't come in. he's going to face a judicial review over his plans the ultra low plans to expand the ultra low emission otherwise known plans to expand the ultra low en ulez. otherwise known plans to expand the ultra low en ulez. afterivise known plans to expand the ultra low en ulez. after a se known plans to expand the ultra low en ulez. after a judge wn as ulez. that's after a judge ruled that a legal battle can go ahead. conservative council has launched the legal challenge with a trial set to begin in july on the grounds that the mayor failed to comply with the statutory on the statutory requirements on the implementation of the plans. statutory requirements on the implementation of the plans . and implementation of the plans. and on the second ground, leopard 2 claims that was a failure to consider the potential for including non london residents including non london residents in the new £110 million scrappage scheme . so what do you scrappage scheme. so what do you think then? should ulez plans be put on hold ? are your thoughts? put on hold? are your thoughts? joining me now is paul scully. he's the conservative mp for sutton and cheam and minister for london, jim dale. he's the senior meteorologist at the british weather services. and alan miller, co—founder of the

together associate ation. right. so i'm going to start with you actually , paul. talk to me about actually, paul. talk to me about what's going on, because i know there's a demonstration in london as well. what's your view on khan's plans ? yeah, on sadiq khan's plans? yeah, look , it should be rit“ : r: “ 7 yeah, look , it should be scrapped look, it should be scrapped immediately— look, it should be scrapped immediately because the we all wenr— immediately because the we all wenr ro— immediately because the we all want to breathe— immediately because the we all want to breathe clean air. we wenr— want to breathe clean air. we wenr ro— want to breathe clean air. we wenr ro newe— want to breathe clean air. we want to make sure that we can reeuue— want to make sure that we can reduce pollution,— want to make sure that we can reduce pollution, that we can give— reduce pollution, that we can gwe peopre— reduce pollution, that we can give people alternatives. but the give people alternatives. but we point— give people alternatives. but we point rs.— give people alternatives. but the point is, we've— give people alternatives. but the point is, we've got to give them where ulez them alternatives. where ulez has well in the has worked really well in the centre of london is just not going to have that same effect in outer london. the costs totally outweigh the benefits . totally outweigh the benefits. even the mayor's own report that he commissioned from a company called jacobs in developing his plans, said the results would be negligible . what it's doing, negligible. what it's doing, it's going to put people out of business. it's going to affect charities, going to charities, and it's going to affect poorest in our affect the poorest in our society who just can't afford to replace cars and have no replace their cars and have no other alternative. sutton has the i think it's the fourth or fifth where i'm speaking now. my

constituency see amount of cars driving in, in and out of work. why is that? it's not because people necessarily want to do that. other option. that. they have no other option. well, jim, can i bring jim dale in well, jim, can i bring jim dale rn neree— well, jim, can i bring jim dale rn neree nes— well, jim, can i bring jim dale in here? he's a— well, jim, can i bring jim dale in here? he's a senior meteorologist at the british weerner— meteorologist at the british weather services. jim, are you neenng— weather services. jim, are you neenng-ne-s— weather services. jim, are you hearing he's saying here? hearing what he's saying here? neeuse— hearing what he's saying here? because obviously be because obviously there will be a because obviously there will be enor— because obviously there will be anf proprens— because obviously there will be a of problems that people's a lot of problems that people's pusrnesses— a lot of problems that people's businesses-well- a lot of problems that people's businesses well go under businesses may well go under peeuse— businesses may well go under peeeuse-een-r— businesses may well go under because-can't get- businesses may well go under because can't get people because they can't get people in. because they can't get people in non— because they can't get people in. -of course,— because they can't get people in. -of course, one- because they can't get people in. of course, one of the in. and of course, one of the prggesr—regerul biggest things with regard to peng— biggest things with regard toi perng—eerueuy being living longer is actually wew— being living longer is actually weu ,— being living longer is actually weu . rne— being living longer is actually well , the more— being living longer is actually well , the more money you have, well, the more money you have, youre— well, the more money you have, you're more likely— well, the more money you have, you're more likely to live for ronger.— you're more likely to live for ronger. wner— you're more likely to live for longer. what do— you're more likely to live for longer. what do you think? wew.— longer. what do you think? weu.|oouru— longer. what do you think? well,lcouldlcould- longer. what do you think? well, could could change the well, i could i could change the word because word to health because i think that's khan is trying that's what sadiq khan is trying to achieve. and not just sadiq nnen— to achieve. and not just sadiq nnen pur— to achieve. and not just sadiq khan, but this— to achieve. and not just sadiq khan, but this is— ert.“ and not just sadiq khan, but this is progressing rnrougnour— khan, but this is progressing- rnrougnour—iusr throughout europe. it's not just a throughout europe. it's not just e lennon— throughout europe. it's not just a london based scenario . and by a london based scenario. and by the way, if let's cast our minds back. boris johnson was the first person to introduce ulez into central london and sadiq khan has picked up the baton and run with it and tried to make that which is preventing pollution incidents across acas

london and it's the outer london areas. actually, they've got the or— areas. actually, they've got the or we— areas. actually, they've got the more of the health— actually, they've got the more of the health problem rerner— more of the health problem rather than— more of the health problem rather than the— more of the health problem rather than the inner. so to expend— rather than the inner. so to expend n— rather than the inner. so to expand it into— rather than the inner. so to expand it into these areas is the right thing to do, not the wrong thing to do. surely the outer london— wrong thing to do. surely the outer london areas- wrong thing to do. surely the outer london areas are- g “g r:rir surely the outer london areas are suffering rner— outer london areas are suffering rner peeuse— outer london areas are suffering that because everyone's going erounu— that because everyone's going erounu rne— that because everyone's going around the edge— that because everyone's going around the edge now, so everyone's going there. let's go to everyone's going there. let's go o aren— everyone's going there. let's go o wen-nes— everyone's going there. let's go to alan- he's the - to alan miller. he's the co—founder_ to alan miller. he's the co—founder of- to alan miller. he's the co—founder of together the association. _ co—founder of together the association. alan yeah , thanks, association. alan yeah, thanks, wene— association. alan yeah, thanks, wene wew.— association. alan yeah, thanks, wene wew. r— association. alan yeah, thanks, nana well, i think a few things . one.— nana well, i think a few things . one. we— nana well, i think a few things . one, the first— nana well, i think a few things . one, the first thing- nana well, i think a few things . one, the first thing is- nana well, i think a few things . one, the first thing is that we're being told these things about air and they're basically lies. we have to call them what rney— lies. we have to call them what rney — lies. we have to call them what rney rne— lies. we have to call them what they are. the claim _ t we have to call them what they are. the claim that the onry— they are. the claim that the onry stern — they are. the claim that the only claim that— they are. the claim that the only claim that sadiq khan now has only claim that sadiq khan now nes gor— only claim that sadiq khan now nes gor rs— only claim that sadiq khan now has got is because— only claim that sadiq khan now has got is because having bought the has got is because having bought rne eerneres— has got is because having bought the cameras in— has got is because having bought the cameras in advance of the so—eeueu— the cameras in advance of the so—called consultation and newng— so—called consultation and having ignored— so—called consultation and having ignored over 65% of peopre— having ignored over 65% of peopre rn— having ignored over 65% of peopre n we— having ignored over 65% of people in the so—called consult nerron— people in the so—called consult nerron es— people in the so—called consult nation, as well— people in the so—called consult nation, as well as— people in the so—called consult nation, as well as 5000 respondents— nation, as well as 5000 respondents who didn't think rney— respondents who didn't think rney wee— respondents who didn't think rney rne— respondents who didn't think they were the right kind of respondents— they were the right kind of respondents ._ they were the right kind of respondents . he's now only respondents. he's now only reurng— respondents. he's now only reurng peon— respondents. he's now only falling back on— respondents. he's now only falling back on this so—called wooe— falling back on this so—called eooo ueerns— falling back on this so—called 4000 deaths a— falling back on this so—called 4000 deaths a year, completely neoe— 4000 deaths a year, completely neoe up.— 4000 deaths a year, completely neee up. were— 4000 deaths a year, completely made up. we've done a report wrrn— made up. we've done a report wrrn een— made up. we've done a report with ben powell— made up. we've done a report with ben powell that's shown wnere— with ben powell that's shown wnere rne— with ben powell that's shown where the original reports come from— where the original reports come

from we— where the original reports come from we sey— where the original reports come from that say you— where the original reports come from that say you should not ever extrapolate _ from that say you should not ever extrapolate deaths from rnrs. — ever extrapolate deaths from rnrs. ann — ever extrapolate deaths from rnrs. one so— ever extrapolate deaths from this. and so what we're being presenreo— this. and so what we're being presented with— this. and so what we're being presented with is— this. and so what we're being presented with is a cash grab. nrs— presented with is a cash grab. rr-s en— presented with is a cash grab. it's an assault— presented with is a cash grab. it's an assault on— presented with is a cash grab. it's an assault on workers and drivers— it's an assault on workers and drivers eno— it's an assault on workers and drivers and the— it's an assault on workers and drivers and the public and the wnore. — drivers and the public and the wnore. ano— drivers and the public and the whole. and we— drivers and the public and the whole. and we talk about europe. we whole. and we talk about europe. we know— whole. and we talk about europe. we know rner— whole. and we talk about europe. we know that sadiq— whole. and we talk about europe. we know that sadiq khan- whole. and we talk about europe. we know that sadiq khan is- whole. and we talk about europe. we know that sadiq khan is chair of c40 cities where they have a very particular idea about how urban development should come around. and urban development should come around . and what we're saying around. and what we're saying rogerner— around. and what we're saying rogerner rs— around. and what we're saying together is the— “r: and what we're saying together is the public should be at together is the public should be er rne— together is the public should be er rne neen— together is the public should be at the heart of— together is the public should be at the heart of things. it snowe— at the heart of things. it. should—needs at the heart of things. it- should_needs and should be about our needs and our interests and our requirements. �*7 our interests and our- requirements. -if you requirements. and if you want people live longer, healthier people to live longer, healthier lives, that's about decent housing. it's about income. sadiq— housing. it's about income. seen-knows— housing. it's about income. sadiq-knows this. - “3 it's about income. sadiq knows this. tfl housing. it's about income.- sadiq-knows this. tfl knows sadiq khan knows this. tfl knows rnose— sadiq khan knows this. tfl knows rnose nurnersp— sadiq khan knows this. tfl knows those numbers are— sadiq khan knows this. tfl knows those numbers are absolutely me. rney-re— those numbers are absolutely me. they're misinformation and rney-re— they're misinformation and they're repeating it. and so seyrng— they're repeating it. and so seyrng n— they're repeating it. and so we're saying it together . people we're saying it together. people snowe— we're saying it together. people snouro ger— we're saying it together. people should get involved and oneuenge— should get involved and challenge and this should stop rnneorerery.— challenge and this should stop immediately. the— challenge and this should stop immediately. the ulez expansion. it's immediately. the ulez expansion. we gor— immediately. the ulez expansion. we got ro— immediately. the ulez expansion. we got to go— immediately. the ulez expansion. we got to go . urn— immediately. the ulez expansion. it's got to go . jim yeah.- immediately. the ulez expansion. . grir grir jim yeah. jim it's got to go. jim yeah. jim in — it's got to go. jim yeah. jim r-n gorng— it's got to go. jim yeah. jim r-n gorng ro— it's got to go. jim yeah. jim i'm going to come- it's got to go. jim yeah. jim i'm going to come to- e grir grir jim yeah. jim i'm going to come to you. jim ween.— i'm going to come to you. jim ween. rner-s— i'm going to come to you. jim yeah, that's misinformation is all yeah, that's misinformation is up from — yeah, that's misinformation is up from we— yeah, that's misinformation is all from the other side , to be all from the other side, to be rrenn— all from the other side, to be rrenw wrrn— all from the other side, to be frank with you. _ all from the other side, to be frank with you. look, pollution kills. it's - known - frank with you. look, pollution kills. it's - known who - frank with you. it's known who the kills. it's well known who the worm — kills. it's well known who the world health— it's well known who the world health organisation organisation— world health organisation organisation know this absolutely—

organisation know this absolutely .- organisation know this absolutely . let's just give you absolutely. let's just give you some figures. _ absolutely. let's just give you some figures. r/riter“ absolutely. let's just give you some figures. / ter“ absolutely. let's just give you some figures. / rt.er“ some figures. yeah, we can ban figures around left, right and centre. but w.h.o. estimate that 6 centre. but w.h.o. estimate that e ro— centre. but w.h.o. estimate that e o 7— centre. but w.h.o. estimate that e o 7 nruron— centre. but w.h.o. estimate that 6 to 7 million deaths— ri.riil"c”riil but w.h.o. estimate that 6 to 7 million deaths occur worldwide. _ 6 to 7 million deaths occur worldwide. 6 to 7 million deaths occur- worldwide. obviously not london, not uk. so whether worldwide. : so whether whether it's not uk. so whether whether it's oeern— not uk. so whether whether it's seen or— not uk. so whether whether it's one death or 4000— so whether whether it's one death or 4000 deaths or wnerewer— one death or 4000 deaths or whatever number— one death or 4000 deaths or whatever number you want to put on n— whatever number you want to put on r. us— whatever number you want to put on r. us one— whatever number you want to put on it, it's one too— whatever number you want to put on it, it's one too many. so gor— on it, it's one too many. so gor ro— on it, it's one too many. so got to go— on it, it's one too many. so we've got to go in- on it, it's one too many. so we've got to go in the direction it's stands. the reason i have a real problem, it's just a real what's the word here? it's almost like , you know, this is almost like, you know, this is not rocket science to think that pollution something we don't pollution is something we don't want. we don't want to be breathing in asthma cases for children london, example, breathing in asthma cases for chilrknow london, example, breathing in asthma cases for chilrknow , london, example, breathing in asthma cases for chilrknow , 3000,i, example, breathing in asthma cases for chilrknow , 3000, 3000,xample, breathing in asthma cases for chilrknow , 3000, 3000, 400»le, breathing in asthma cases for chilrknow , 3000, 3000, 400 in. breathing in asthma cases for chilrknow , 3000, 3000, 400 in the you know, 3000, 3000, 400 in the last couple of years. the point is, is that nobody wants pollution. it's how we get there . and the mechanics of it may not be quite right. the financial repercussions in terms of. well, it doesn't sound like enypooy— of. well, it doesn't sound like enypoey wenrs— of. well, it doesn't sound like anybody wants it,— well, it doesn't sound like anybody wants it, but the majoritvr — anybody wants it, but the neionry. swo— anybody wants it, but the majority, 51% in a yougov poll, ero— majority, 51% in a yougov poll, pro or— majority, 51% in a yougov poll, 51% of londoners— majority, 51% in a yougov poll, 51% of londoners approved of it, wnrre— 51% of londoners approved of it, wnrre onry— 51% of londoners approved of it, wnrre onry zo— 51% of londoners approved of it, while only 20 erg— 51% of londoners approved of it, while only 20 erg is against no

rook— while only 20 erg is against no rook peeuse— while only 20 erg is against no look because the— while only 20 erg is against no look because the whole point of the look because the whole point of we runner— look because the whole point of the judicial review— look because the whole point of the judicial review is that the judge— the judicial review is that the judge believes— the judicial review is that the judge believes there is enough evidence— judge believes there is enough evidence there— judge believes there is enough evidence there to— judge believes there is enough evidence there to hear the case we— evidence there to hear the case we ne— evidence there to hear the case we ne nes— evidence there to hear the case we ne nes e— evidence there to hear the case that he has a faulty consultation. t that he has a faulty consultation. ert. that he has a faulty- consultation. the fact is, he knew the results of the consultation as they were coming through. he then skewed his envenrsrng— through. he then skewed his advertising towards- 3 he then skewed his advertising towards people who were more likely— advertising towards people who were more likely to support him on on rnrs— were more likely to support him on on this there— were more likely to support him on on this there was one yougov pou— on on this there was one yougov pou rner— on on this there was one yougov pou rner ne— on on this there was one yougov pou rner ne ne— on on this there was one yougov poll that he he himself conducted— poll that he he himself conducted ,— poll that he he himself conducted , conducted or conducted, conducted or commissioned- conducted, conducted or commissioned , which has shown commissioned, which has shown nn— commissioned, which has shown run in— commissioned, which has shown run in e— commissioned, which has shown run in e wrrn— commissioned, which has shown him in a with a— commissioned, which has shown him in a with a majority. but every— him in a with a majority. but every ower— him in a with a majority. but every other poll, _ him in a with a majority. but every other poll, every other survey that's been conducted has shown a majority in london, especially in outer london , especially in outer london, against this. now as jim said, bofis against this. now as jim said, boris johnson did introduce the original ulez in the centre of town. there was also les the low emission zone, which already goes around outer london . boris goes around outer london. boris also was talking about- d boris also was talking about expanding it also was talking about expanding rr ro— also was talking about expanding n o wonn— also was talking about expanding it to north and— also was talking about expanding it to north and south circular. wner— it to north and south circular. we seen— it to north and south circular. what sadiq khan— it to north and south circular. what sadiq khan did- it to north and south circular. what sadiq khan did when he came in, he accelerated that expansion and what he's done now , he's actually just given people months to try and change

their cars to the point that the bottom has fallen out of the market. there are no cars that you can for buy the scrappage scheme london the scheme amount in london and the south—east that are actually ulez so he's rushing ulez compliant. so he's rushing into this rather than taking people him. got a book people with him. he's got a book coming out, the mayor next month, talks about taking coming out, the mayor next month, with talks about taking coming out, the mayor next month, with youlks about taking coming out, the mayor next month, with you .:s about taking coming out, the mayor next month, with you . he's)ut taking coming out, the mayor next month, with you . he's doneking people with you. he's done exactly opposite. he's just exactly the opposite. he's just absolutely up the charge absolutely ramped up the charge and doubling down every time against motorists , against against motorists, against people who can least afford the change. we all want to breathe clean air, but you have to take people with you on the journey. alan yeah, we're being told that you nusr— alan yeah, we're being told that you nusr oo— alan yeah, we're being told that you must do this— alan yeah, we're being told that you must do this. _ alan yeah, we're being told that you must do this . “ri;”ri; you must do this. there's no alternative. this must happen. perpetual state of emergency in crisis. you can say it's not rocker— crisis. you can say it's not rocket science,— crisis. you can say it's not rocket science, but- t.” you can say it's not rocket science, but democracy is epour— rocket science, but democracy is epour engegrng— rocket science, but democracy is about engaging the public , about engaging the public, wrnnrng— about engaging the public, winning hearts— about engaging the public, winning hearts and minds and it's winning hearts and minds and res erso— winning hearts and minds and it's also about— winning hearts and minds and it's also about the case that peopre— it's also about the case that peopre neve— it's also about the case that people have said— it's also about the case that people have said we know categorically— people have said we know categorically the way extra peopre— categorically the way extra peopre rrve — categorically the way extra people live for— categorically the way extra people live for longer , people live for longer, healthier— people live for longer, healthier lives. ' “r: people live for longer, healthier lives. “r: people live for longer,— healthier lives. and we've shown this over the decades we this over the decades is we improve their their their ability to live. that's about

nousrng.— ability to live. that's about housing. that's— t can t that's about housing. that's about money they seurg— housing. that's about money they earn. sadiq khan— housing. that's about money they earn. sadiq khan has- housing. that's about money they earn. “ earn. sadiq khan has failed in a number of these metrics across the board. and similarly to one— the board. and similarly to other councils— the board. and similarly to other councils and- : and similarly to other councils and authorities eroun— other councils and authorities erouno rne— other councils and authorities around the country who are vying— around the country who are rryrnglrnpose— around the country who are trying impose measures trying to impose measures egernsr— trying to impose measures egernsr rne— trying to impose measures against the will of their residents— against the will of their residents like residents and businesses like roen— residents and businesses like roeo—eno- residents and businesses like roeo—eno e- residents and businesses like road—and a range| residents and businesses like. road—and a range of road blocks ltns and a range of measures like— road blocks ltns and a range of measures like that. '“r: measures like that. and what's happening frankly, people happening, frankly, is people are up and saying are now standing up and saying they're going to it they're not going to have it anymore. together anymore. that's why together association, we've had association, we've just had this. still trafalgar this. i'm still in trafalgar square now. there's big square now. there's this big retry. — square now. there's this big retry. -ee— square now. there's this big rally. -are organised. : there's this big rally. are organised in rally. people are organised in men— rally. people are organised ini their—obviously their communities. obviously were-s— their communities. obviously there's judicial review and there's the judicial review and people to stop treating the people need to stop treating the pubuc people need to stop treating the public contempt . it's about public with contempt. it's about our our interests . and our needs and our interests. and no one in the public is saying, let's planet. what we let's kill the planet. what we need to work out are sensible ways that we can have development, wealth creation, growth and not have technocrats. just tell us, be quiet. we're telling you what's going to happen because we know best than you . and of course, the you don't. and of course, the urrz— you don't. and of course, the urrz ee— you don't. and of course, the urrz gorng— you don't. and of course, the ulez are going all— r:rir“ . and of course, the ulez are going all over the eounrry.— ulez are going all over the county in— ulez are going all over the country. jim yeah, this has become— country. jim yeah, this has become politicised. become heavily politicised. res-s.— become heavily politicised. per-s. reus— become heavily politicised. let's, let's make— become heavily politicised. let's, let's make that- let's, let's make that absolutely clear that it's

become that and that's what the trafalgar square thing is about today. i'm going to i mean , it'd today. i'm going to i mean, it'd be nrse— today. i'm going to i mean, it'd be ro— today. i'm going to i mean, it'd be nice to have— today. i'm going to i mean, it'd be nice to have a— : i'm going to i mean, it'd be nice to have a consensus perween— be nice to have a consensus perween rne— be nice to have a consensus between the three of us if we so— between the three of us if we so rm— between the three of us if we can. so i'm just— between the three of us if we can. grir “g can. so i'm just going to read something to you. i've got a mail from linkedin from shell. in actual fact, shell , the big in actual fact, shell, the big the big oil producer, the fossil fuel guys, i'm going to read this to you exactly what it says and see if we can agree in the direction of travel, because obviously, net zero climate change, pollution, they're all joined hip. it says we joined at the hip. so it says we work to power progress work together to power progress through more and cleaner energy solutions. strategy is to solutions. our strategy is to purposefully accelerate the transition of our business to net zero emissions. so the solution is net zero emissions. so the sorurron is e— net zero emissions. so the solution is a nice,- so the solution is a nice, easy one, rsn-r— solution is a nice, easy one, rsn-r n— solution is a nice, easy one, rsn-r n e — solution is a nice, easy one, em to we— solution is a nice, easy one, isn't it ? we go— solution is a nice, easy one, isn't it ? �*rfvrrri; grir t solution is a nice, easy one, isn't it ? grir t t isn't it? we go back to the cost of living crisis and what the government haven't done in terms of tax in shell, bp and others , of tax in shell, bp and others, because the money that that would be derived from doing that even partially would be enough to recompense those that are finding the financial problems of ulez and some of the

arguments on the other side. so everybody would win. if you think about it logically, shell want to get there, but you'd still have ulez yeah , i would still have ulez yeah, i would have ulez yeah , everyone would have ulez yeah, everyone would win. i think a lot of people wouro— win. i think a lot of people wouro-our— win. i think a lot of people would-out on- r“ i think a lot of people would out on that, think, would lose out on that, i think, you— would lose out on that, i think, you-nur— would lose out on that, i think, you-nur-usren- would lose out on that, i think, you-but-listen, it'si you know. but hey, listen, it's nornrng—your nothing without you and your rnougnrs. — nothing without you and your rnougnrs. -ro- nothing without you and your. thoughts. -to-thank thoughts. i'm going to say thank you very— thoughts. i'm going to say thank you very muon— thoughts. i'm going to say thank you very much for— thoughts. i'm going to say thank you very much for joining me. neur— you very much for joining me. reur scurry. — you very much for joining me. paul scully. he's— you very much for joining me. paul scully. he's the conservative - paul scully. he's the- conservative -sutton paul scully. he's the- conservative-sutton and conservative mp for sutton and rupe— conservative mp for sutton and tube-minister— conservative mp for sutton and tube-minister for- conservative mp for sutton and tube minister for london, tube and minister for london, in— tube and minister for london, pin-senor- jim dale is a senior meteorologist the british meteorologist at the british weerner— meteorologist at the british weather services. and alan mpg.— weather services. and alan router—or- weather services. and alan. miller,_of together miller, co—founder of together assoererron. — miller, co—founder of together association. _ see i association. right. let's see wner— association. right. let's see we you-ve— association. right. let's see what you've been saying. paul seys— what you've been saying. paul seys rnrs— what you've been saying. paul seys rnrs ner— what you've been saying. paul says this net zero— what you've been saying. paul says this net zero has to be sroppeo— says this net zero has to be sroppee eno— says this net zero has to be stopped and this ulez stopped and all this ulez nonsense-be- stopped and all this ulez nonsense be scrapped. nonsense should be scrapped. it's nonsense should be scrapped. rr-s-renng- nonsense should be scrapped.- it's-taking-from it's all about taking money from the it's all about taking money from rne-peopre— it's all about taking money from rne-peopre .— it's all about taking money from rne-peopre . es- it's all about taking money from the-people , as it- it's all about taking money from the people , as it seems the working people, as it seems to the working people, as it seems rolrner— the working people, as it seems rolrner rven— the working people, as it seems to.that ivan says— the working people, as it seems to that ivan says nana. this to be that ivan says nana. this is e— to be that ivan says nana. this is e eno— to be that ivan says nana. this is a con and so— to be that ivan says nana. this is a con and so hypocritical. nnen— is a con and so hypocritical. nnen rs— is a con and so hypocritical. khan is saying— is a con and so hypocritical. khan is saying we don't want pouunng— khan is saying we don't want cars polluting our air, but if you— cars polluting our air, but if you pay— cars polluting our air, but if you pay £1250— cars polluting our air, but if you pay £12.50 per day, you can pouure— you pay £12.50 per day, you can pouure es— you pay £12.50 per day, you can pollute as much— you pay £12.50 per day, you can pollute as much as— you pay £12.50 per day, you can pollute as much as you like. nnen— pollute as much as you like. nnen rs— pollute as much as you like. nnen is e— pollute as much as you like. khan is a disgrace. yeah, it seems-pe— khan is a disgrace. yeah, it seems.be..long- khan is a disgrace. yeah, it seems be. long as you've seems to be. as long as you've got— seems to be. as long as you've gor rne— seems to be. as long as you've gor rne money— seems to be. as long as you've got the money-can. seems to be. as long as you've got the money can pay got the money and you can pay for got the money and you can pay nor-rner-s— got the money and you can pay for-that's fine. - got the money and you can pay for-that's fine. you- got the money and you can pay for pollutethat's fine. you got the money and you can pay for pollute as t's fine. you got the money and you can pay for pollute as muche. you got the money and you can pay for pollute as much as(ou got the money and you can pay for pollute as much as you like. can pollute as much as you like. rnenv— can pollute as much as you like. went-muon— can pollute as much as you like. thank-much. keep- can pollute as much as you like. thank much. keep the thank you so much. keep the rnougnrs— thank you so much. keep the thoughts-you're- thank you so much. keep the thoughts you're with me. thoughts coming. you're with me. i'm thoughts coming. you're with me. in -avue. — thoughts coming. you're with me. r-n-avue. rnrs— thoughts coming. you're with me. i'm akua. this news i'm nana akua. this is gb news

on-eno— i'm nana akua. this is gb news on-eno on— i'm nana akua. this is gb news on-and on digital- on tv, online and on digital retro.— on tv, online and on digital reoro. wner— on tv, online and on digital radio. after the— on tv, online and on digital radio. after the break, be radio. after the break, i'll be speenng— radio. after the break, i'll be speaking-doctor- radio. after the break, i'll be speaking doctor about speaking to a doctor about a enro— speaking to a doctor about a. major—in major medical breakthrough in the major medical breakthrough in rne-eonper- major medical breakthrough in the combat malaria in the battle to combat malaria in wner-s— the battle to combat malaria in wner-s neen— the battle to combat malaria in what's been described a world what's been described as a world onenger— what's been described as a world onenger-won-r— what's been described as a world changer-won't want- what's been described as a world changer won't want to changer vaccine won't want to miss— changer vaccine won't want to nrss-rnen— changer vaccine won't want to miss then afterwards, it's miss that. then afterwards, it's rnrs— miss that. then afterwards, it's this-political- miss that. then afterwards, it's this political spotlight. this week's political spotlight. i'll—conservativel i'll be joined by conservative mp— i'll be joined by conservative nrlneyrergn— i'll be joined by conservative mp rayleigh wickford and mp for rayleigh and wickford and former— mp for rayleigh and wickford and former-nerv— mp for rayleigh and wickford and former mark francois to former minister mark francois to rew— former minister mark francois to rein epour— former minister mark francois to rein epour wny— former minister mark francois to talk about why he— former minister mark francois to talk about why he got into poppies.— talk about why he got into politics. but— talk about why he got into politics. but first, let's get your— politics. but first, let's get your reresr— politics. but first, let's get your latest news headlines . e your latest news headlines. it is see.— your latest news headlines. it is see. rm— your latest news headlines. it is 333. i'm arron— your latest news headlines. it is 333. i'm arron armstrong in the gb newsroom. the government's under pressure to prevent the most extreme nurses strike yet, which it says is deeply concerning for patients . deeply concerning for patients. a&e cancer units in intensive care will be affected for the first time after royal college of nursing members voted against the latest pay offer. they'll walk out for 48 hours over the may day bank holiday weekend and members of unison , though, which members of unison, though, which represents health workers , represents health workers, including some nurses, overwhelmingly backed the deal . overwhelmingly backed the deal. the shadow armed forces minister told gb news victims of abuse

and bullying in westminster are repeatedly being let down. speaking to gloria de piero luke miall , pollard described the miall, pollard described the commons as the most unprofessional workplace he's ever encountered and says a blind eye is being turned to predators around parliament. the mp recently announced he will be stepping back from politics. three people have been arrested on suspicion of conspiracy to cause public nuisance ahead of the grand national . the animal the grand national. the animal rising group has warned that up to 300 activists are planning to huack to 300 activists are planning to hijack the event to prevent the race. six motty horses have died at the grand national festival at the grand national festival at aintree in the past 23 years. police, though, say they have a robust plan in place to prevent disruption . protesters have disruption. protesters have gathered in london's trafalgar square to rally against the expansion of the ultra low emission zone. if it goes ahead. drivers in greater london will have to pay £12.50 a day. if their vehicles don't meet emission standards. five

conservative led councils , conservative led councils, though, have launched legal action against the plans and the scottish government is considering drafting in the army to help run the akua highland ferry service. it's after a replacement vessel broke down last friday, resulting in a 42 mile diversion on there was currently only a foot passenger route on a catamaran which runs to trips daily tv online dab+ radio and on. tune in to this is gb news. now back to nana . gb news. now back to nana. thank you, aaron. coming gb news. now back to nana.- - thank you, aaron. coming up gb news. now back to nana.- - thank yogivingrn. coming up gb news. now back to nana.- - thank yogiving you oming up gb news. now back to nana.- - thank yogiving you my �*ig up gb news. now back to nana.- - thank yogiving you my take» 4:00, i'll be giving you my take on—wno— 4:00, i'll be giving you my take on—wno go- 4:00, i'll be giving you my take on_who go woke- 4:00, i'll be giving you my take on who go woke and on companies who go woke and rnen— on companies who go woke and rnen ru— on companies who go woke and rnen in re— on companies who go woke and then i'll be speaking to conservative— then i'll be speaking to conservative mp mark francois eno— conservative mp mark francois eno wny— conservative mp mark francois eno wny ne— conservative mp mark francois ene wny ne gor— conservative mp mark francois and why he got into politics. rner-s— and why he got into politics. nets on— and why he got into politics. that's on the— and why he got into politics. that's on the way. stay tuned

welcome back. it's just coming up ro— welcome back. it's just coming up ro se— welcome back. it's just coming up to 39 minutes— welcome back. it's just coming up to 39 minutes after 3:00. rnrs— up to 39 minutes after 3:00. rnrs rs— up to 39 minutes after 3:00. rnrs is en— up to 39 minutes after 3:00. this is gb news— up to 39 minutes after 3:00. this is gb news on tv online and on signer— this is gb news on tv online and on digital radio.— this is gb news on tv online and on digital radio. we— this is gb news on tv online and on digital radio. we are the peopre-s— on digital radio. we are the people's channel. i'm nana akua. wow— people's channel. i'm nana akua. wow novrng— people's channel. i'm nana akua. wow novrng ro— people's channel. i'm nana akua. now moving to ghana, which is wnere— now moving to ghana, which is wnere ny— now moving to ghana, which is where my family— now moving to ghana, which is where my family are from. drug eurnonry— where my family are from. drug authority have— where my family are from. drug authority have approved a new onow— authority have approved a new oxford university— authority have approved a new oxford university vaccine aimed to oxford university vaccine aimed ro somber— oxford university vaccine aimed to combat malaria. now ghana is rrrereuy— to combat malaria. now ghana is rrrereuy rne — to combat malaria. now ghana is literally the first— to combat malaria. now ghana is literally the first country in we— literally the first country in we wont — literally the first country in the world to _ literally the first country in the world to approve the malaria vaccine, which _ the world to approve the malaria vaccine, which and— the world to approve the malaria vaccine, which and as you know , vaccine, which and as you know, nerene— vaccine, which and as you know, nerene rs— vaccine, which and as you know, nerene rs gurre— vaccine, which and as you know, malaria is quite a— vaccine, which and as you know, malaria is quite a deadly orseese.— malaria is quite a deadly disease. it— malaria is quite a deadly disease. it kills than disease. it kills more than eooooo— disease. it kills more than 600,000 people each year. the vesr— 600,000 people each year. the vesr neionry— 600,000 people each year. the vast majority being african entren— vast majority being african children. however the vaccine nes— children. however the vaccine nes snown— children. however the vaccine nes snown ro— children. however the vaccine has shown to be— children. however the vaccine has shown to be up to 80% erreerrve— has shown to be up to 80% effective in— has shown to be up to 80% effective in a— has shown to be up to 80% effective in a trial which rnvorveo— effective in a trial which involved 400 _ effective in a trial which involved 400 children. and it was published— involved 400 children. and it was published back in september. rner-s— was published back in september. rner-s wnen— was published back in september. that's when the _ was published back in september. that's when the results came our.— that's when the results came out so— that's when the results came our. so pornrng— that's when the results came out. so joining me now is professor— out. so joining me now is professor george lomonosov . i professor george lomonosov. i rnrnv— professor george lomonosov. i rnrnv r— professor george lomonosov. i rnrnv r gor— professor george lomonosov. i rnrnv r gor n— professor george lomonosov. i think i got it right, who works at think i got it right, who works er rne— think i got it right, who works up rne ronn— think i got it right, who works at the john innes_ think i got it right, who works at the john innes centre. hello eeorge. — at the john innes centre. hello oeorge. rnenv— at the john innes centre. hello george. thank you— at the john innes centre. hello george. thank you very much for joining-— george. thank you very much for pornrng. r— george. thank you very much for pornrng. r ore.— george. thank you very much for pornrng. r ere. r— george. thank you very much for joining. i did. i got— george. thank you very much for joining. i did. i got it right. anezrng— joining. i did. i got it right. amazing thank— joining. i did. i got it right. amazing thank you so much for

joining— amazing thank you so much for pornrng ne— amazing thank you so much for joining me..this_ amazing thank you so much for joining me..this is- amazing thank you so much for joining me. this is a really joining me. so this is a really evening— joining me. so this is a really exciting development because nerene— exciting development because malaria - been _ exciting development because malaria been really malaria has been a really serious for serious problem for many for yes— serious problem for many for yeers-ro— serious problem for many for yeers-ro ne— serious problem for many for years. to me about this years. talk to me about this . on— years. talk to me about this vaccine . oh yeah. “ e vaccine. oh yeah. i mean, it's a very exciting development. um, andifs very exciting development. um, and it's using all sorts of new technology to actually make the vaccine one of the problems with malaria , um, is that it's caused malaria, um, is that it's caused it's not a virus, it's not a bacterium, it's actually a protozoan . um, it's single cell protozoan. um, it's single cell organism which can live both in insects , mosquitoes and in insects, mosquitoes and in humans . and the thing about it humans. and the thing about it is it's very good at escaping detection by the immune system, which is how it keeps on being propagate and going around the world. and so to try and get the srrnurere— world. and so to try and get the stimulate immunity— : and so to try and get the stimulate immunity in humans egernsr— stimulate immunity in humans egernsr rne— stimulate immunity in humans against the protozoan parasite is against the protozoan parasite rs reeuy— against the protozoan parasite rs reeuy gurre— against the protozoan parasite is really quite tricky. and rnere— is really quite tricky. and there have— is really quite tricky. and there have been attempts i know onow— there have been attempts i know onow neve— there have been attempts i know oxford have been— there have been attempts i know oxford have been working on this for over— oxford have been working on this for so— oxford have been working on this for over 30 years— oxford have been working on this for over 30 years now and so wner— for over 30 years now and so we rney-ve— for over 30 years now and so what they've done is it's, you know.— what they've done is it's, you know, fascinating _ what they've done is it's, you know, fascinating . “rite “ know, fascinating. they've taken a virus sequence actually from

hepatitis b, which is a human virus , a mammalian virus, and virus, a mammalian virus, and which makes particles. virus, a mammalian virus, and which makes particles . and they which makes particles. and they then link it to parts of an outer protein from the plasmodium parasite. and that makes plasmodium parasite. and that neves newes— plasmodium parasite. and that makes makes those— : t. and that makes makes those sequences much rrnrnunoenreg— makes makes those sequences much more immunogenic. and what i py— more immunogenic. and what i py rner— more immunogenic. and what i mean by that is— more immunogenic. and what i mean by that is they're much ente— mean by that is they're much more able to— mean by that is they're much more able to raise an immune sysren— more able to raise an immune sysren response— more able to raise an immune system response to these neperrrrs— system response to these nepenns n — system response to these hepatitis b particles . and so if hepatitis b particles. and so if you— hepatitis b particles. and so if you rnr-eer— hepatitis b particles. and so if you rnr-eer rnrs— hepatitis b particles. and so if you inject this into humans , you inject this into humans, rnen— you inject this into humans, rnen you-u— you inject this into humans, then you'll get— you inject this into humans, then you'll get antibodies which can then you'll get antibodies which rnen— then you'll get antibodies which can then attack— then you'll get antibodies which can then attack the parasite wnen— can then attack the parasite wnen nrs— can then attack the parasite when it's introduced by the nosgurro— when it's introduced by the nosgurro . — when it's introduced by the mosquito . so— when it's introduced by the mosquito . when it's introduced by the- mosquito . so the other component mosquito. so the other component sometimes you'll see the other part matrix—m, and that's produced by a company called novavax in the us, and that's what's known as an adjuvant , what's known as an adjuvant, which is a production of sort of fatty particles, things like cholesterol in it. and that actually also helps the immune system react to make the appropriate antibodies. so it really is a kind of synthetic

vaccine using a lot of sort of synthetic biology approaches. so it's very exciting. mm hm. has any of the technology- will ri;,rp

sort of fatty particles and then inject them into the recipient's . um, so it's a very fascinating way of doing it and it uses a lot of modern technology and of course a lot of vaccine development is very much been inspired by the covid work. and there's been a huge amount of renewed interest in, in new ways of developing vaccines . so how of developing vaccines. so how significant is this— of developing vaccines. so how significant is this then- : “g ert.t. so how significant is this then for anne— significant is this then for anne eno— significant is this then for africa and how- significant is this then for africa and how beneficial is rnrs— africa and how beneficial is we uvery— africa and how beneficial is this likely to— africa and how beneficial is this likely to be? well it's very— this likely to be? well it's very userur— this likely to be? well it's very useful for— this likely to be? well it's very useful for protecting young enrroren— very useful for protecting young enrroren rn— very useful for protecting young children in, um,— very useful for protecting young children in, um, as— very useful for protecting young children in, um, as i think aonen— children in, um, as i think adrian hill— children in, um, as i think adrian hill at— children in, um, as i think adrian hill at oxford said, it's nor— adrian hill at oxford said, it's nor e— adrian hill at oxford said, it's nor e sever— adrian hill at oxford said, it's not a silver bullet. . not a silver bullet. it's not going— not a silver bullet. it's not gorng ro— not a silver bullet. it's not going to completely eliminate malaria. it'll sure be used in conjunction with what a fairly conventional measures such as insecticide to kill the insect vectors and do some simple things like mosquito netting, just to stop the mosquitoes biting . um, but it's another biting. um, but it's another sort of, uh, string to the bow,

as it were. um, and uh, it will be useful in just gradually trying to eliminate this really horrible disease . can i very horrible disease. can i very briefly horrible disease. can i very briefly esv— horrible disease. can i very briefly ask you— horrible disease. can i very briefly ask you very- r: can i very briefly ask you very quickly, peeuse— briefly ask you very quickly, peeuse r— briefly ask you very quickly, because i haven't got much time, is srewe— because i haven't got much time, is some eeu— because i haven't got much time, is sickle cell anaemia. if you-ve— is sickle cell anaemia. if you-ve gor— is sickle cell anaemia. if you've got sickle cell anaemia, you— you've got sickle cell anaemia, you nor— you've got sickle cell anaemia, can you not catch— you've got sickle cell anaemia, can you not catch malaria ? or if can you not catch malaria? or if it's can you not catch malaria? or if us more— can you not catch malaria? or if it's more cyclical,— can you not catch malaria? or if it's more cyclical, then you're rrvery— it's more cyclical, then you're wnen-n.— it's more cyclical, then you're likely-it. because. likely to catch it. because i erweys— likely to catch it. because i always thought— likely to catch it. because i always thought that that was always thought that if that was the always thought that if that was rne—perneps- always thought that if that was the—perhaps that. the case, then perhaps that was your— the case, then perhaps that was your-wey— the case, then perhaps that was your-waylevolving. i the case, then perhaps that was your way evolving. so your body's way of evolving. so you— your body's way of evolving. so you coupon-r— your body's way of evolving. so you couldn't catch— your body's way of evolving. so you couldn't catch this disease .—rnere- you couldn't catch this disease .—rnere eny- . is that true? is there any rrurn— . is that true? is there any rrurnlrner— . is that true? is there any truth .that 7 - . is that true? is there any truth .that 7 yes,- . is that true? is there any truth that ? r/ri;~er . truth to that? yes, it's believed to be true. so sickle cell is caused by this cell anaemia is caused by this variant in haemoglobin . so when variant in haemoglobin. so when you go through this— “ d “ so when you go through this oxygenation oyste— you go through this oxygenation eyere rn— you go through this oxygenation eyere in we— you go through this oxygenation cycle in the blood— you go through this oxygenation cycle in the blood , you get the cycle in the blood, you get the neenogroprn— cycle in the blood, you get the haemoglobin crystallising and grvrng— haemoglobin crystallising and grvrng rne— haemoglobin crystallising and grvrng rne reo— haemoglobin crystallising and giving the red blood cells. this wine— giving the red blood cells. this wine or— giving the red blood cells. this kind of sickle— giving the red blood cells. this kind of sickle appearance and eveoryne— kind of sickle appearance and everyone always— kind of sickle appearance and everyone always thought, well, why— everyone always thought, well, wny noes— everyone always thought, well, wny eoes rner— everyone always thought, well, why does that persist in the popurenon— why does that persist in the population over— why does that persist in the population over the generations? it population over the generations? rrwouro.— population over the generations? it would. people— population over the generations? it would. people without rreernenr— it would. people without treatment don't live as long, so it treatment don't live as long, so u wouro— treatment don't live as long, so it would gradually— treatment don't live as long, so it would gradually die out. but it would gradually die out. but n erso— it would gradually die out. but rr erso eppeers— it would gradually die out. but it also appears to— it would gradually die out. but it also appears to make you more resrsrenr— it also appears to make you more resrsrenr ro— it also appears to make you more resistant to malaria. '“r: it also appears to make you more resistant to malaria. ' “r:

resistant to malaria. and so eree-s— resistant to malaria. and so were wny— resistant to malaria. and so that's why it's been preserved. you know, you get it continues to you know, you get it continues ro pe— you know, you get it continues ro be in— you know, you get it continues ro be in we— you know, you get it continues to be in the population often. gm.— to be in the population often. um, no— to be in the population often. gm, n— to be in the population often. um, now if malaria stops being, um um, now if malaria stops being, gm .— um, now if malaria stops being, um , a prevalent— um, now if malaria stops being, um , a prevalent disease , you um, a prevalent disease, you nrgnr— um, a prevalent disease, you nrgnr see— um, a prevalent disease, you might see sickle— um, a prevalent disease, you might see sickle cell also the proponron— might see sickle cell also the proponron .— might see sickle cell also the proponron . so— might see sickle cell also the proportion . so maybe gradually proportion. so maybe gradually die proportion. so maybe gradually ore ewey— proportion. so maybe gradually ore ewey. pur— proportion. so maybe gradually die away, but that would take genererrons. — die away, but that would take generations. fascinating fascinating.— generations. fascinating fascinating. thank- generations. fascinating fascinating. thank you very much for, for clarifying that for me. professor george lomonosov . he professor george lomonosov. he works at john innes centre works at the john innes centre here. well, moving on, because it's a big day at aintree, but could it all be wrecked by protesters on the course? three people been people have already been arrested on suspicion of conspiracy public conspiracy to cause public nuisance of the race and nuisance ahead of the race and animals rights activists claim that to stop the that they're going to stop the horses their track. here's horses in their track. here's our north—west of england. reporter bupa . and there reporter sophy bupa. and there they go , reporter sophy bupa. and there rney go . ewey— reporter sophy bupa. and there rney go . ewey ro— reporter sophy bupa. and there rney go . ewey ro e— reporter sophy bupa. and there they go , away to a good- 3 and there they go , away to a good start, they go, away to a good start, a nerd— they go, away to a good start, a new or— they go, away to a good start, a new or 29.— they go, away to a good start, a field of 29, racing— they go, away to a good start, a field of 29, racing for a good posrrron— field of 29, racing for a good posrrron er— field of 29, racing for a good posrnon er e— field of 29, racing for a good position at a time honoured newton— position at a time honoured tradition which— position at a time honoured tradition which began almost two eenrury— tradition which began almost two eenrury ego— tradition which began almost two eenrury ego . — tradition which began almost two century ago . today,— tradition which began almost two century ago. today, thousands will descend on aintree ready for the grand national . but as

for the grand national. but as the sun shines down on this historic racetrack once again, could trouble lie ahead ? animal could trouble lie ahead? animal rising is an activist group set on bringing an end to anything they deem animal exploitation. things like animals in zoos , on things like animals in zoos, on farms, in labs or in sport. so we'll be disrupting the- “ “ so we'll be disrupting the grand wenoneu— we'll be disrupting the grand national. the— we'll be disrupting the grand national. the reason for this is rwo— national. the reason for this is two reasons. one,— national. the reason for this is two reasons. one, to stop the nern — two reasons. one, to stop the nern ro— two reasons. one, to stop the nern ro rne— two reasons. one, to stop the harm to the horses there, but rwo— harm to the horses there, but rwo rs— harm to the horses there, but rwo rs ro— harm to the horses there, but two is to have— harm to the horses there, but two is to have a— harm to the horses there, but two is to have a conversation epour— two is to have a conversation epour our— two is to have a conversation about our relationship to all enrners. — about our relationship to all animals. for— about our relationship to all animals. cry about our relationship to all animals. t: animals. for many, the grand national might simply be a fun day out with friends or a harmless flutter at the bookies. but animal rising disagrees. so the but animal rising disagrees. so we erenu— but animal rising disagrees. so the grand national— but animal rising disagrees. so the grand national is— but animal rising disagrees. so the grand national is cruel. and i think i think most people can see that. and some people will be annoyed. i think be really annoyed. but i think other think maybe other people also think maybe they've point. he didn't they've got a point. he didn't go into detail— they've got a point. he didn't go into detail ,— they've got a point. he didn't go into detail , but— they've got a point. he didn't go into detail , but ben- grir he didn't go into detail, but ben told me it go into detail, but ben told me n es— go into detail, but ben told me n rne— go into detail, but ben told me it was the plan— go into detail, but ben told me it was the plan of— go into detail, but ben told me it was the plan of animal rising

to it was the plan of animal rising ro srop— it was the plan of animal rising ro srop rne— it was the plan of animal rising to stop the race— it was the plan of animal rising to stop the race by— it was the plan of animal rising to stop the race by using their poores— to stop the race by using their bones. rnrs— to stop the race by using their bodies. this has— to stop the race by using their bodies. this has caused major seeunry— bodies. this has caused major security concerns— bodies. this has caused major security concerns for those at we— security concerns for those at we neen— security concerns for those at we neen or— security concerns for those at the heart of this— security concerns for those at the heart of this huge event. were— the heart of this huge event. were working— the heart of this huge event. we're working extreme- the heart of this huge event. we're working extreme closely with with merseyside police, with with merseyside police, with other stakeholders in the region and with our own security teams to make sure that we're taking all the steps we possibly can to prevent such a such a protest rising. probably need to just reflect on whether it's a positive their cause positive thing for their cause to be seeking to curtail and indeed destroy the enjoyment of millions watching and thousands on the track, as well as endangenng on the track, as well as endangering themselves. the jockeys, the officials and most importantly of all, from their point of view and from our point of view, the horses that they purport to protect. despite fatality rates— purport to protect. despite fatality rates being- purport to protect. despitei fatality rates being -all fatality rates being at an all une— fatality rates being at an all one row— fatality rates being at an all one row .— fatality rates being at an all time low , the— fatality rates being at an all time low , the jockey club says time low, the jockey club says it's time low, the jockey club says us work— time low, the jockey club says us work ro— time low, the jockey club says it's work to ensure— time low, the jockey club says it's work to ensure the safety of it's work to ensure the safety or we — it's work to ensure the safety of the horses— it's work to ensure the safety of the horses will— it's work to ensure the safety of the horses will never be eonprere. — of the horses will never be complete. . ri; ” ” of the horses will never be complete. �*7 of the horses will never be- complete. however , for if horse complete. however, for if horse racing ceased to exist, what would happen to its athletes?

with erg racing, without them peng— with erg racing, without them being ewe— with erg racing, without them perng epre ro— with erg racing, without them being able to race, there would being able to race, there would be no— being able to race, there would be no breeding— being able to race, there would be no breeding of— being able to race, there would be no breeding of the thoroughbred, and eventually the rnorougnpreo— thoroughbred, and eventually the thoroughbred would die out. so eerueuy— thoroughbred would die out. so eerueuy rue— thoroughbred would die out. so actually the people— thoroughbred would die out. so actually the people who- thoroughbred would die out. so actually the people who want to stop horse racing are actually going completely counter to what they want to look after the horse and we want we agree with them on that. we love these horses, too. but ultimately, without racing, there no without racing, there is no thoroughbred. there away thoroughbred. and there away year year, thoroughbred. and there away year year , the grand year after year, the grand national captures the attention of the world. but as the eyes of see — of the world. but as the eyes of see nruron— of the world. but as the eyes of 500 million people— : but as the eyes of 500 million people turned to anne— 500 million people turned to arnrree rnrs— 500 million people turned to aintree this year,— 500 million people turned to aintree this year, they might see more than— aintree this year, they might see more than just what they perrrng— see more than just what they were betting on. ri; 3 were betting on. sophie reaper. gb news. fabulous.— were betting on. sophie reaper. gb news. fabulous. so- were betting on. ri; 3 c15 \ fabulous. so right. gb news. fabulous. so right. nrs— gb news. fabulous. so right. us no— gb news. fabulous. so right. rr-s rime.— cit \ fabulous. so right. it's now time, though, for porrrreer— it's now time, though, for political spotlight and this week— political spotlight and this week r-n— political spotlight and this week i'm delighted to be joined by a— week i'm delighted to be joined by e tren— week i'm delighted to be joined by e men or— week i'm delighted to be joined by a titan of the— week i'm delighted to be joined by a titan of the conservative party— by a titan of the conservative perry. nerv— by a titan of the conservative party, mark francois. he was ereereo— party, mark francois. he was ereereo es— party, mark francois. he was elected as the— party, mark francois. he was elected as the mp for rayleigh eno— elected as the mp for rayleigh and wickford— elected as the mp for rayleigh and wickford in— elected as the mp for rayleigh and wickford in 2001 after serving— and wickford in 2001 after serving in— and wickford in 2001 after serving in the— and wickford in 2001 after serving in the territorial army eno— serving in the territorial army not putting— serving in the territorial army and building a— serving in the territorial army and building a career in banking and building a career in banking and consulting.— and building a career in banking and consulting. mark brought a rougn— and consulting. mark brought a rougn .— and consulting. mark brought a rougn .lnoros—

and consulting. mark brought a tough , holds attitude tough, no holds barred attitude tough, no holds barred attitude to westminster— tough, no holds barred attitude to westminster ,— tough, no holds barred attitude to westminster , campaigning to westminster, campaigning rerenrressry— to westminster, campaigning relentlessly against the growing pureeuereey— relentlessly against the growing bureaucracy of _ relentlessly against the growing bureaucracy of the european unron. — bureaucracy of the european unron. nerv— bureaucracy of the european union. mark was— bureaucracy of the european union. mark was one of the 28 so—eeueo— union. mark was one of the 28 so—called spartans who rejected rnerese— so—called spartans who rejected rnerese ney-s— so—called spartans who rejected theresa may's brexit deal three rrnes— theresa may's brexit deal three rrnes rn— theresa may's brexit deal three rrnes in we— theresa may's brexit deal three times in the commons. now chair of times in the commons. now chair or-ruropeen— times in the commons. now chair of european research group, of the european research group, nerv— of the european research group, mark continues— of the european research group, mark continues to— of the european research group, mark continues to campaign for a rrue— mark continues to campaign for a rrue prenu— mark continues to campaign for a true brexit, which— mark continues to campaign for a true brexit, which honours the resurr— true brexit, which honours the resun or— true brexit, which honours the resun or we— true brexit, which honours the result of the 2016— true brexit, which honours the result of the 2016 referendum. r-n — result of the 2016 referendum. r-n preeseo— result of the 2016 referendum. r-n preeseo ro— result of the 2016 referendum. i'm pleased to say that mark is nere— i'm pleased to say that mark is nerelrne— i'm pleased to say that mark is here-the studio— i'm pleased to say that mark is here the studio me now . here in the studio with me now. so here in the studio with me now. so-rnenv— here in the studio with me now. so-rnenv you— here in the studio with me now. so-thank you very- here in the studio with me now. so thank you very much for so mark, thank you very much for joining— so mark, thank you very much for iornrng—youi joining me. donelan thank you for on. well, i've for having me on. well, i've read a for having me on. well, i've reeo e or— for having me on. well, i've read a lot of— for having me on. well, i've read a lot of-about. for having me on. well, i've. read a lot of-about you. read a lot of things about you. in — read a lot of things about you. in roonng— read a lot of things about you. i'm looking forward to finding out i'm looking forward to finding our-enou— i'm looking forward to finding out-about your- i'm looking forward to finding out about your as out more about your book as wew.— out more about your book as wew-you— out more about your book as well.-you-were- out more about your book as well. you were doing well. but you you were doing rnrngs— well. but you you were doing wings-ony— well. but you you were doing things-city.-kind| things in the city. what kind of sun— things in the city. what kind of srurr-oorng- things in the city. what kind ofi srurr-oorng-you stuff were you doing before you got stuff were you doing before you gor rnro — stuff were you doing before you got into politics?— stuff were you doing before you got into politics? because there is got into politics? because there rs-rne— got into politics? because there is-the criticism - got into politics? because there is-the criticism of- is often the criticism of politicians— is often the criticism of politicians they don't is often the criticism of- politicians .they don't know politicians that they don't know enyrnrng— anything about the real world. wew—wes- anything about the real world. wew—wes esi anything about the real world.| wew—wes es e well my first ever job was as a paper— well my first ever job was as a peper-on— well my first ever job was as a peper-on rne— well my first ever job was as a paper on the council paper boy on the council estate rner— paper boy on the council estate we r— paper boy on the council estate we r grew— paper boy on the council estate we r grew up— paper boy on the council estate that i grew up on— paper boy on the council estate that i grew up on in basildon, so that i grew up on in basildon, so-now— that i grew up on in basildon, so-nowlgor— that i grew up on in basildon, so-howlgotlknowl that i grew up on in basildon,. so-howlgotlknow it. so that's how i got to know it. weu. — so that's how i got to know it. weu. ano— so that's how i got to know it. well. and then— so that's how i got to know it. well. and then after- so that's how i got to know it. �*rfvrrrigt and then after university, well. and then after university, i well. and then after university, r wenr— well. and then after university, r wenr orr— well. and then after university, r wenr on ro— �*rfvrrrigt and then after university, i went off to university after being— i went off to university after being-you- i went off to university afteri being-you-call being at what you might call a bog— being at what you might call a pog sundow— being at what you might call a bog standard, comprehensive and i bog standard, comprehensive and r reen— bog standard, comprehensive and r reed-er— bog standard, comprehensive and i read-at bristol. - bog standard, comprehensive and i read-at bristol. i- i read history at bristol. i reen— i read history at bristol. i not en— i read history at bristol. i not en-rn— i read history at bristol. ii read an-in-studies, i read history at bristol. 1. read an-in-studies, sort read an ma in war studies, sort of military history at king's under chap called professor under a chap called professor lawrence who was

lawrence freedman, who was a very well known academic . first very well known academic. first job, was in the city t: t. first job, was in the city working for a job, was in the city working for e penn— job, was in the city working for e penv . — job, was in the city working for e penv . rnen— job, was in the city working for a bank. then i— job, was in the city working for a bank . “rit“ : a bank. then i moved into sort of do at the bank. were you one of do at the bank. were you one or nose— of do at the bank. were you one of those traders?— of do at the bank. were you one of those traders? no _ of do at the bank. were you one of those traders? no i- were you one of those traders? no i wasn't. go.— of those traders? no i wasn't. we. r— of those traders? no i wasn't. we. r ween-r— of those traders? no i wasn't. we. r wesn-r en— of those traders? no i wasn't. no, i wasn't an investment, no, i was i was purely a graduate trainee, but it was probably a bit regimented me. so. bit too regimented for me. so. so actually i moved into e so. so actually i moved into sort of pr so actually i moved into sort of pp pung— so actually i moved into sort of pr public affairs— so actually i moved into sort of pr public affairs ,— so actually i moved into sort of pr public affairs , public pr public affairs, public relations,— pr public affairs, public relations, and i found that was my none.— relations, and i found that was my nrene. ano— relations, and i found that was my nrene. ann r— relations, and i found that was my niche. and i worked for a eonsurrrng— my niche. and i worked for a consulting firm. _ my niche, and i worked for a consulting firm, my niche. and i worked for a consulting firm. rit““ consulting firm. then i went self—employed, so i actually ran my own business. you've done gurre— my own business. you've done gurre e— my own business. you've done gurre e on.— my own business. you've done quite a bit. what— my own business. you've done quite a bit. what kind- you've done quite a bit. what kind of business— quite a bit. what kind of business was— quite a bit. what kind of business was it? �*rfvrrrigt business was it? well, i was a consulting int and so i've sat there at 2:00 in the morning, you know, filling in a vat return. iremember you know, filling in a vat return. i remember what that's uve. — return. i remember what that's uve. r— return. i remember what that's like. i remember— return. i remember what that's like. i remember-it's- return. i remember what that'si like. i remember-it's like like. i remember what it's like to own business. it's to run your own business. it's very exhilarating, also very exhilarating, but it's also incredibly hard work. you very exhilarating, but it's also incredibly hard work . you get very exhilarating, but it's also incredibly hard work. you get a day off. yeah. and— incredibly hard work. you get a day off. yeah. and also- incredibly hard work. you get a day off. yeah. and also i- t: “er”r: you get a day off. yeah. and also i spent epour— day off. yeah. and also i spent epour seven— day off. yeah. and also i spent about seven years— day off. yeah. and also i spent about seven years in the territorial— about seven years in the territorial army . “ about seven years in the- territorial army. this is during the. yeah, during the cold war when what was like? when the. what was that like? weu. — when the. what was that like? weu. r— when the. what was that like? weu. r we— when the. what was that like? well, i was an infantry officer, so to be clear, i never did active service. i never went to reg— active service. i never went to iraq-afghanistan. - active service. i never went to

iraq-afghanistan. .got. ert. t.ri; i never went to iraq afghanistan. got no iraq or afghanistan. i've got no neoers— iraq or afghanistan. i've got no medals-entitled- iraq or afghanistan. i've got no medals entitled to any. medals and not entitled to any. nur— medals and not entitled to any. our-reneg— medals and not entitled to any. but.trained.one- medals and not entitled to any. but trained one scenario, but we trained for one scenario, wnen— but we trained for one scenario, wnen-wowe— but we trained for one scenario, which .world war- but we trained for one scenario, which world war iii, because which was world war iii, because wnen—wowe- which was world war iii, because when—world war- which was world war iii, because when world war was when i was in the world war was snu— when i was in the world war was stir-eno— when i was in the world war was srruleno so— when i was in the world war was srruleno so my— when i was in the world war was still and so my battalion still up and so my battalion rive.— still up and so my battalion rrve. noyer— still up and so my battalion five, royal anglian, as was we in we— five, royal anglian, as was we in we even— five, royal anglian, as was we in the event of— five, royal anglian, as was we in the event of the balloon going— in the event of the balloon going up,— in the event of the balloon gorng up. our— in the event of the balloon going up, our job was to go to wesr— going up, our job was to go to wesr eerneny— going up, our job was to go to west germany—a. going up, our job was to go to- west germany—a bridge west germany and defend a bridge in we— west germany and defend a bridge in we regurer— west germany and defend a bridge in the regular army's rear area. so in the regular army's rear area. so nerorruuy— in the regular army's rear area. so mercifully the— in the regular army's rear area. so mercifully the wall- in the regular army's rear area. so mercifully the wall came down. margaret thatcher. ronnie reagan won the cold war and eastern europe became free. but now, unfortunately with- t. t but now, unfortunately with putin, to now, unfortunately with putin, ro some— now, unfortunately with putin, to some degree,— now, unfortunately with putin, to some degree, we're you know, nrsrory— to some degree, we're you know, nrsrory rs— to some degree, we're you know, history is repeating— to some degree, we're you know, history is repeating itself. so it history is repeating itself. so rr seems— history is repeating itself. so u n— history is repeating itself. so it seems it seems— history is repeating itself. so it seems it seems interesting that we almost haven't learnt the lessons and we seem to be back back there again. well, my father one of the reasons i got into politics, my dad was a d—day veteran . i've got all his d—day veteran. i've got all his never— d—day veteran. i've got all his never pepers— d—day veteran. i've got all his never pepers er— d—day veteran. i've got all his naval papers at home.- naval papers at home. unfortunately, he died when i re. — unfortunately, he died when i re. nur— unfortunately, he died when i was 14. but but— unfortunately, he died when i was 14. but but but- unfortunately, he died when i was 14. ger.“ was 14. but but but he taught me as a young boy never to take living in a free country for granted. and living in a free country for granted . and that's something granted. and that's something mer— granted. and that's something we vino— granted. and that's something me one or— granted. and that's something that kind of i— granted. and that's something that kind of i tried— 3: and that's something that kind of i tried to remember all that kind of i tried to remember up my— that kind of i tried to remember all my political— that kind of i tried to remember all my political life. and one of all my political life. and one or me— all my political life. and one of the reasons— all my political life. and one of the reasons i— all my political life. and one

of the reasons i think i got so moved— of the reasons i think i got so rnvorveo m— of the reasons i think i got so involved in in— of the reasons i think i got so involved in in the— of the reasons i think i got so involved in in the whole brexit oepere— involved in in the whole brexit oepere es— involved in in the whole brexit oepere r— involved in in the whole brexit debate was i thought that was epour— debate was i thought that was epour uvrng— debate was i thought that was about living in— debate was i thought that was about living in a— debate was i thought that was about living in a free country. anu— about living in a free country. and we— about living in a free country. and we neu— about living in a free country. and we neu e— about living in a free country. and we had a referendum- about living in a free country. and we had a referendum and you may recall they put a booklet through everyone's door before it saying, this is your decision. the government will rmpremenr— decision. the government will implement what— r:rit. rit“ the government will implement what you decide and peopre— implement what you decide and peopre voreo— implement what you decide and people voted peacefully and democratically— people voted peacefully and democratically to leave and then the government— democratically to leave and then the government didn't really rmpremenr— the government didn't really implement it. _ the government didn't really implement it. that was an interesting time that i remember watching all that. it was, to be honest, watching all of that was quite embarrassing because it was stopping democratic was people stopping democratic vote from having every tactic they could possibly employ to circumnavigate gate a democratic vote was employed at that stage. yeah, i mean, it was embarrassing. i mean, the rest of the were watching. they of the world were watching. they were laughing at us. i can remember this one remember hearing this one guy saying, no need to saying, oh, there's no need to put on any netflix movies for comedy. as well just comedy. we might as well just watch the british mps. and it was it wasn't just was all of you. it wasn't just like one party, it was all of them just making an embarrassment. it was three them just making an emba of ssment. it was three them just making an emba of trench. it was three them just making an emba of trench warfarer three them just making an emba of trench warfare because years of trench warfare because the years of trench warfare because rne—.— years of trench warfare because rne—. emer- years of trench warfare because rne—. erred by! years of trench warfare because.

the_, aided by some the establishment, aided by some renow— the establishment, aided by some reuow-rn— the establishment, aided by some fellow in parliament, fellow travellers in parliament, did fellow travellers in parliament, ere everyrnrng— fellow travellers in parliament, did everything they could to try and frustrate— did everything they could to try and frustrate the _ did everything they could to try and frustrate the democratic resurr. — and frustrate the democratic resurr. r— and frustrate the democratic result. i took— and frustrate the democratic result. i took the- and frustrate the democratic result. t result. i took the liberty of writing book called spartan writing a book called spartan victory how we won victory about how we how we won in still available on in the end still available on amazon, i might but but amazon, if i might say. but but that this is the story of how we finally managed to deliver brexit in the face of all of that opposition. and it's a battle that we had to fight because if we hadn't have done the risk was that people, whatever their normal political allegiance , would just lose allegiance, would just lose faith in the democratic process itself. because if you're going to have a referendum and the people decide aid and you don't then implement their decision, people would have started to say, well, what's the point of voting in elections? well, that is the voting in elections? well, that is me worry.— voting in elections? well, that is the worry, isn't— voting in elections? well, that is the worry, isn't it?- “g “ t 7 well, that is the worry, isn't it? because you— is the worry, isn't it? because you-you— is the worry, isn't it? because you-you see— is the worry, isn't it? because you-you you- is the worry, isn't it? because you you see you see a lot you know, you see you see a lot of you know, you see you see a lot or-nor— you know, you see you see a lot or-nor neppy— you know, you see you see a lot of-not happy with- of people not happy with decisions— of people not happy with. decisions—and decisions that are made and winning.— decisions that are made and thinking-we're- decisions that are made and thinking, we're not going thinking, well, we're not going to thinking, well, we're not going ro rouow— thinking, well, we're not going ro rouow n— thinking, well, we're not going to follow it and— thinking, well, we're not going to follow it and we can't go down— to follow it and we can't go gown-pern— to follow it and we can't go down path because if we down that path because if we sren— down that path because if we sren-rnen- down that path because if we start -then there's. start that path, then there's rrrereuy— start that path, then there's literally politics start that path, then there's litr all. .y _ politics start that path, then there's litrall. .y look, politics start that path, then there's litrall..y look, i politics start that path, then there's litrall..y look, i no litics start that path, then there's litrall..y look, i no one; at all. well, look, i no one ewes— at all. well, look, i no one uves n— at all. well, look, i no one uves n n— at all. well, look, i no one likes it if you're- at all. well, look, i no one likes it if you're a tory, seeing— likes it if you're a tory, seerng rne— likes it if you're a tory, seeing the government, you know, errrrerse— seeing the government, you know, criticise - heavily, _

seeing the government, you know, criticise . heavily, but- seeing the government, you know, criticise heavily, but we criticise very heavily, but we rive— criticise very heavily, but we uve m— criticise very heavily, but we uve m e— criticise very heavily, but we live in a country— criticise very heavily, but we live in a country where you can do live in a country where you can no mer— live in a country where you can no we end— live in a country where you can do that and again,— live in a country where you can do that and again, at the risk of do that and again, at the risk or repeenng— do that and again, at the risk or repeenng my— do that and again, at the risk of repeating my father told me ro— of repeating my father told me never to take— of repeating my father told me never to take that— of repeating my father told me never to take that for granted. vou— never to take that for granted. you know. — never to take that for granted. you know. if.— never to take that for granted. you know, if, if— never to take that for granted. you know, if, if you're- never to take that for granted. you know, if, if you're in- never to take that for granted. you know, if, if you're in china and you criticise the government, even online at 3:00 in the morning, you may disappear and never be seen again. so we should never take for granted the fact that we can disagree democratically and peacefully. can criticise the peacefully. we can criticise the government of the day and ultimately in a general election we we can replace them with we can we can replace them with someone else if that's what the people do . well, you people decide to do. well, you talked about— people decide to do. well, you talked about brexit.— r:rit. r:ri r:rir well, you talked about brexit. how successful— talked about brexit. how successful do _ talked about brexit. how successful do think it's successful do you think it's son— successful do you think it's sonlpeen— successful do you think it's sort been looking at it now? sort of been looking at it now? i sort of been looking at it now? r meen— sort of been looking at it now? r neen-peer— sort of been looking at it now? i mean,-feel it's- sort of been looking at it now? i mean, feel it's done ? i mean, do you feel it's done? we— i mean, do you feel it's done? we ure— i mean, do you feel it's done? we no n.— i mean, do you feel it's done? we no n. we— i mean, do you feel it's done? we did it. we left.— i mean, do you feel it's done? we did it. we left. we- i mean, do you feel it's done? we did it. we left. we legally left the institutions of the european union. we withdrew our wens— european union. we withdrew our wens from — european union. we withdrew our wens from me— european union. we withdrew our meps from the european- meps from the european parliament— meps from the european parliament because we were no ronger— parliament because we were no longer entitled— parliament because we were no longer entitled to— parliament because we were no longer entitled to them. we longer entitled to them. so we refr— longer entitled to them. so we err in — longer entitled to them. so we err in r— longer entitled to them. so we err in r oo— longer entitled to them. so we left it. i do believe it's been a success. we— left it. i do believe it's been a success. we had the fastest vaccine rollout_ a success. we had the fastest vaccine rollout ,— a success. we had the fastest vaccine rollout , arguably in vaccine rollout, arguably in europe-s— vaccine rollout, arguably in europe's arguably in the world, the europe's arguably in the world, we rrrsr— europe's arguably in the world, the first really— europe's arguably in the world, the first really because we were oursroe— the first really because we were oursroe rne — the first really because we were outside the eu— the first really because we were outside the eu though was that

reeuy— outside the eu though was that reeuy wny— outside the eu though was that reeuy wny wner— outside the eu though was that really why what was the thing mer— really why what was the thing we mere— really why what was the thing we meoe n— really why what was the thing that made it that we didn't have to that made it that we didn't have ro go— that made it that we didn't have ro go we— that made it that we didn't have ro go we me— that made it that we didn't have to go via the eu? _ that made it that we didn't have to go via the eu? �*rfvrrer that made it that we didn't have to go via the eu? e to go via the eu? what was it that we didn't we didn't have to go via the european medicines agency. we were able, as it ro— agency. we were able, as it ro-our— agency. we were able, as it were, to .our own - 'igriil’3rf.«r we were able, as it were, to our own canoe, you were, to roll our own canoe, you know.— were, to roll our own canoe, you know-rue— were, to roll our own canoe, you know-nrsr-r-ep- know, the first ever jab that m— know, the first ever jab that was in was in— know, the first ever jab that was in was in britain. so i rnrnv— was in was in britain. so i think that's— was in was in britain. so i think that's one- was in was in britain. so i think that's one example we've menegeo— think that's one example we've now managed to— think that's one example we've now managed to sign all these now managed to sign all of these rreoe— now managed to sign all of these new trade deals— now managed to sign all of these new trade deals with australia, wrrn — new trade deals with australia, wrrn wew— new trade deals with australia, with new zealand over 70 of men. — with new zealand over 70 of men. nrs— with new zealand over 70 of men. us very— with new zealand over 70 of them. it's very exciting . one them. it's very exciting. one wrrn— them. it's very exciting. one with - pacific - them. it's very exciting. one with pacific countries with trans pacific countries mer— with trans pacific countries we soure— with trans pacific countries that could open— with trans pacific countries that could open up £11 billion wonn— that could open up £11 billion worn or— that could open up £11 billion worth of markets. so i do think it's worth of markets. so i do think its been— worth of markets. so i do think its been e— worth of markets. so i do think it's been a success.— worth of markets. so i do think it's been a success. but having cowo— it's been a success. but having covrp neppen— it's been a success. but having covid happen right in the middle of covid happen right in the middle or men— covid happen right in the middle or men ereerry— covid happen right in the middle of that, clearly has— covid happen right in the middle of that, clearly has made that more difficult— of that, clearly has made that more difficult than it otherwise wouro— more difficult than it otherwise wouro neve— more difficult than it otherwise would have been.— more difficult than it otherwise would have been. and i think it wouro— would have been. and i think it wouro pe— would have been. and i think it wouro pe sruy— would have been. and i think it would be silly not— would have been. and i think it would be silly not to recognise rner. — would be silly not to recognise rner. anu— would be silly not to recognise that. and what— would be silly not to recognise that. and what is— would be silly not to recognise that. and what is a- would be silly not to recognise that. “r: g: e that. and what is a good brexit deal look like to you ? say a deal look like to you? say a good one. what is it? well it gives ability trade gives us an ability to trade with other countries around the world as we see fit. when you're in me— world as we see fit. when you're in me ruropeen— world as we see fit. when you're in the european union,- : �*7 c when you're in the european union, you coupon-r— in the european union, you eouron-r oo— in the european union, you couldn't do a— in the european union, you couldn't do a trade deal with enyone— couldn't do a trade deal with nyone erse. — couldn't do a trade deal with anyone else. you— couldn't do a trade deal with anyone else. you could only do it anyone else. you could only do n we— anyone else. you could only do n we me— anyone else. you could only do it via the institutions of the eu- — it via the institutions of the

eu- wow— it via the institutions of the eu. now we've— it via the institutions of the eu. now we've entered this massive trade— eu. now we've entered this massive trade deal with the mens— massive trade deal with the trans pacific— massive trade deal with the trans pacific countries as we've got trans pacific countries as we've gor mem— trans pacific countries as we've gor rnem wrrn— trans pacific countries as we've got them with australia , we've got them with australia, we've got them with australia, we've gor rnem — got them with australia, we've gor rnem wrrn— got them with australia, we've got them with new zealand. we can got them with new zealand. we r— got them with new zealand. we r nope— got them with new zealand. we r nope er— got them with new zealand. we can i hope at some— got them with new zealand. we can i hope at some point we will sign— can i hope at some point we will sign e— can i hope at some point we will srgn e meio— can i hope at some point we will sign a major trade— can i hope at some point we will sign a major trade deal with the unnee— sign a major trade deal with the united states— sign a major trade deal with the united states and— sign a major trade deal with the united states and with other mer-or— united states and with other mero powers— united states and with other major powers as— united states and with other major powers as well. but the pornr— major powers as well. but the pornr rs— major powers as well. but the pornr is we— major powers as well. but the point is we now— major powers as well. but the point is we now have the power to point is we now have the power rolrner. — point is we now have the power rolrner. nrs— point is we now have the power to.that. it's our— point is we now have the power to that. it's our decision, to do that. it's our decision, nrs— to do that. it's our decision, it's parliament's— to do that. it's our decision, it's parliament's decision. were— it's parliament's decision. were nor— it's parliament's decision. we're not beholden to the eu. if we wenr— we're not beholden to the eu. if we wenr ro— we're not beholden to the eu. if we wenr o oo— we're not beholden to the eu. if we want to do that— we're not beholden to the eu. if we want to do that . this is all we want to do that. this is all epour— we want to do that. this is all epour running— we want to do that. this is all about running our— we want to do that. this is all about running our own country. rne— about running our own country. rne rnrng— about running our own country. rne rnrng r-ve— about running our own country. the thing i've never really understood— the thing i've never really understood and i know, i know r-ve— understood and i know, i know r-ve oepereo— understood and i know, i know i've debated this— understood and i know, i know i've debated this for years, the wing— i've debated this for years, the rnrng-never— i've debated this for years, the thing-never-got- i've debated this for years, the thing never got my thing i've never really got my need— thing i've never really got my need erouno— thing i've never really got my head around is— thing i've never really got my head around is why some people in head around is why some people rn-eounrry— head around is why some people in-country were— head around is why some people in-country were so- head around is why some people in country were so opposed in this country were so opposed to in this country were so opposed ro us— in this country were so opposed ro us running— in this country were so opposed to us running our— in this country were so opposed to us running our own country eno— to us running our own country eno wenreo— to us running our own country eno wenreo ro— to us running our own country and wanted to us— to us running our own country and wanted to us be run by someone else— and wanted to us be run by someone else instead . ergtiri; someone else instead. i agree wrrn— someone else instead. i agree with men— someone else instead. i agree with that. although having seen the things are going, the way things are going, sometimes i ask myself why fryston mark francois, it's such a pleasure coming for you to come and talk me. i look come and talk to me. i look forward speaking outside forward to us speaking outside and reading forward to us speaking outside ancyou. reading forward to us speaking outside ancyou. oh, reading forward to us speaking outside ancyou. oh, spartan reading forward to us speaking outside ancyou. oh, spartan victoryaading forward to us speaking outside ancyou. oh, spartan victory .tding for you. oh, spartan victory. lovely. is all about lovely. and this is all about our for brexit. it is the our battle for brexit. it is the inside story. mark francois, thank much. you

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know what it is. snakes on his head. before we get started, let's get your latest news headunes. let's get your latest news headlines . nana thank you and headlines. nana thank you and good— headlines. nana thank you and good afternoon.— headlines. nana thank you and good afternoon. it's— : \rrer“er thank you and good afternoon. it's 4:00. this is me— good afternoon. it's 4:00. this is me reresr— good afternoon. it's 4:00. this is the latest from _ good afternoon. it's 4:00. this is the latest from the gb newsroom. the government's under pressure ro— newsroom. the government's under pressure ro prevenr— newsroom. the government's under pressure to prevent the most ereme— pressure to prevent the most extreme nurses— pressure to prevent the most extreme nurses strike yet after the extreme nurses strike yet after me reresr— extreme nurses strike yet after me reresr pey— extreme nurses strike yet after the latest pay offer was rep-enem— the latest pay offer was rejected, members from the rcn voreo— rejected, members from the rcn voreo egernsr— rejected, members from the rcn voted against the— rejected, members from the rcn voted against the 5% pay rise, meenrng— voted against the 5% pay rise, meenrng wus— voted against the 5% pay rise, meaning nhs nurses in emergency oepenmenrs— meaning nhs nurses in emergency eepenmenrs .— meaning nhs nurses in emergency departments , agents, intensive departments, agents, intensive eno— departments, agents, intensive care and cancer— departments, agents, intensive care and cancer wards will take rnousrner— care and cancer wards will take industrial action— care and cancer wards will take industrial action for the first rrme. — industrial action for the first me. me— industrial action for the first time. the 48— industrial action for the first time. the 48 hour- industrial action for the first time. ”8 ” ct time. the 48 hour walkout will start on the 30th of april, but 74% of unison members voted to accept the same pay offer. shadow business secretary ronernen— shadow business secretary jonathan reynolds says labour wowe— jonathan reynolds says labour would abolish— jonathan reynolds says labour would abolish the non—dom status to would abolish the non—dom status ro nepp— would abolish the non—dom status ro nerp eese— would abolish the non—dom status ro nerp me— would abolish the non—dom status to help ease the nhs crisis . to help ease the nhs crisis. yesr_ to help ease the nhs crisis. res. ru— to help ease the nhs crisis. yes. to sey— to help ease the nhs crisis. yes, i'd say what— to help ease the nhs crisis. yes, i'd say what we- to help ease the nhs crisis. yes, i'd say what we can tell from what we've seen yesterday is first of all a resolution is relatively close. i think the government should have negotiated sooner this year. this was always resolvable. this

has yes, about pay, has always been yes, about pay, but been about the but it's also been about the burden, the workload nhs staff are if you take our are under. and if you take our plan, which is to abolish the non—dom tax regime for non—dom super tax regime for very wealthy people, use that revenue over £3 billion to expand workforce , you're expand the nhs workforce, you're giving people some hope that some of pressures they're some of the pressures they're under are going under in future are going to be resolved. think that's all resolved. and i think that's all they've ever asked from the government . the shadow armed government. the shadow armed forces minister has told gb news a blind eye is being turned to predators around parliament. luke pollard has described westminster— luke pollard has described westminster as the most unprofessional workplace. ri; unprofessional workplace. he's enoumereu— unprofessional workplace. he's encountered while— unprofessional workplace. he's encountered while speaking to gloria de piero, the mp who recently announced he'll step back from politics, says victims of abuse and bullying are repeatedly being let down. i still don't think westminster is a still don't think westminster is e sere— still don't think westminster is e sere prese— still don't think westminster is e sere preee ro— still don't think westminster is a safe place to work, especially for meny— a safe place to work, especially for meny or— a safe place to work, especially for many of the— a safe place to work, especially for many of the young members of srem— for many of the young members of set mer— for many of the young members of set me nrs— for many of the young members of staff that mps employ. ' “r: staff that mps employ. and we know— staff that mps employ. and we know ener— staff that mps employ. and we know that there are predators around westminster that are sometimes allowed to continue or a blind eye turned. and i want to see that changed because i

think westminster should embody the very best of our country . the very best of our country. arnie it should be a place that people aspire to get elected to and then want to change the world from a position of strength. and i'm afraid that at the moment i sometimes feel westminster rest of the westminster lets the rest of the country watch that country down. you can watch that full country down. you can watch that run rnrervrew— country down. you can watch that full interview with— country down. you can watch that full interview with the _ t.rir. : you can watch that full interview with the shadow armen— full interview with the shadow armed forces— full interview with the shadow armed forces minister on gloria weers— armed forces minister on gloria meets tomorrow— armed forces minister on gloria meets tomorrow at— armed forces minister on gloria meets tomorrow at 6 pm. now, rnree— meets tomorrow at 6 pm. now, rnree peopre— meets tomorrow at 6 pm. now, three people have— meets tomorrow at 6 pm. now, three people have been arrested on suspicion— three people have been arrested on suspicion of— three people have been arrested on suspicion of conspiracy to punte— on suspicion of conspiracy to cause public nuisance ahead of the cause public nuisance ahead of me onene— cause public nuisance ahead of the grand national. t. “r: : the grand national. hundreds of activists will try to prevent the race from taking place by attaching themselves to fences along the course at aintree. the animal rising campaign group seys— the animal rising campaign group seys nrs— the animal rising campaign group seys rr-s ro— the animal rising campaign group says it's to highlight the proven— says it's to highlight the broken relationship between numens— broken relationship between numem .— broken relationship between humans , animals and the natural humans, animals and the natural worm.— humans, animals and the natural wono. eo— humans, animals and the natural world. 60 horses— humans, animals and the natural world. 60 horses have died at me— world. 60 horses have died at me meno— world. 60 horses have died at the grand national festival se— the grand national festival since 2000. _ the grand national festival since 2000. t.ri; the grand national festival since 2000. t since 2000. police say they have a robust plan in place to prevent any disruption . the head prevent any disruption. the head of the jockey club, _ prevent any disruption. the head of the jockey club, nevin - of the jockey club, nevin truesdale,_ of the jockey club, nevin truesdale, says the action could be oengerous— truesdale, says the action could be dangerous working extremely erosery— be dangerous working extremely erosery wrrn— be dangerous working extremely

closely with with— be dangerous working extremely closely with with merseyside poise.— closely with with merseyside porree. wrrn— closely with with merseyside police, with other stakeholders in me — police, with other stakeholders in me region— police, with other stakeholders in the region and— police, with other stakeholders in the region and their own seeunry— in the region and their own security teams— in the region and their own security teams to make sure that renng— security teams to make sure that we're taking all— security teams to make sure that we're taking all the steps we possrpry— we're taking all the steps we possrpry een— we're taking all the steps we possibly can to— we're taking all the steps we possibly can to prevent such a sum— possibly can to prevent such a suen e— possibly can to prevent such a suen e proresr— possibly can to prevent such a such a protest arising. property— such a protest arising. probably need- such a protest arising. probably need to- such a protest arising. probably need to just reflect on whether it's a positive thing for their cause to be seeking to curtail and indeed destroy the enjoyment of millions watching and thousands on the track , as and thousands on the track, as well as endangering themselves. the jockeys , the officials and the jockeys, the officials and most importantly of all, from their point of view and from our point of view, the horses that they purport to protect. de—man racers have gathered in london's trafalgar square to protest against the expansion of the ultra low emission zone . if it ultra low emission zone. if it goes ahead, drivers in- goes ahead, drivers in outer london— goes ahead, drivers in outer ronoon wru— goes ahead, drivers in outer london will have to pay £12.50 a day— london will have to pay £12.50 a oey n— london will have to pay £12.50 a oey n merr— london will have to pay £12.50 a day if their vehicles— london will have to pay £12.50 a day if their vehicles don't meet ermssron— day if their vehicles don't meet emission standards . five emission standards. five conservative— emission standards. five conservative led councils have reuneneo— conservative led councils have launched legal— conservative led councils have launched legal action against the launched legal action against rne ptens— launched legal action against me prens. nur— launched legal action against the plans. but the mayor of onions— the plans. but the mayor of london's office— the plans. but the mayor of london's office calls the oneuenge— london's office calls the challenge costly and misguided and challenge costly and misguided eno gues— challenge costly and misguided and argues the _ challenge costly and misguided and argues the proposal is life sevrng— and argues the proposal is life sevrng .— and argues the proposal is life

sevrng . un— and argues the proposal is life saving . uk officials say its saving. uk officials say its noes— saving. uk officials say its forces are finding more eomponenrs— forces are finding more components from china in russian weepos— components from china in russian vveepos used— components from china in russian weepon useo m— components from china in russian weapons used in the war. china nes— weapons used in the war. china nes repeereery— weapons used in the war. china has repeatedly denied sending mrurery— has repeatedly denied sending military equipment to russia se— military equipment to russia since moscow's— military equipment to russia since moscow's invasion in repruery— since moscow's invasion in repruery resr— since moscow's invasion in february last year. however, reeked— february last year. however, leaked us military documents claim beijing has approved the provision of lethal aid to russia, but wants its shipments to remain a secret. china's defence minister is scheduled to arrive in russia tomorrow for a four day visit . around a quarter four day visit. around a quarter of four day visit. around a quarter or young— four day visit. around a quarter of young pebble— four day visit. around a quarter of young people are— ” r:e . . around a quarter of young people are living ” r:er . . around a quarter of young people are living in poor— of young people are living in poor guerrry— of young people are living in poor quality housing, according to poor quality housing, according ro me— poor quality housing, according ro rne reresr— poor quality housing, according to the latest research , a think to the latest research, a think renn— to the latest research, a think renw me— to the latest research, a think tank, the resolution foundation . seys— tank, the resolution foundation . seys zero— tank, the resolution foundation . seys zero or— tank, the resolution foundation . seys zero or re— tank, the resolution foundation , says 26% of 18 to 24 year olds rive— , says 26% of 18 to 24 year olds uve m— , says 26% of 18 to 24 year olds uve rn temp— , says 26% of 18 to 24 year olds live in damp buildings without erection.— live in damp buildings without electricity. heating or plumbing- - electricity. heating or plumbing. t.riri“ electricity. heating or- plumbing. the company also electricity. heating or— plumbing. the company also found that those living in such conditions are twice as likely to experience ill health. and the scottish government is considering drafting in the army as a replacement for a key highland ferry service. the shipment that d cl”: rt.ri; the shipment that normally makes the

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it power in numbers and given that n wouro— power in numbers and given that rr woure eppeer— power in numbers and given that it would appear the silent meronry— it would appear the silent meronry-r-usr- majority are just that a meronry. — majority are just that a majority. and as such more uvery— majority. and as such more uvery ro— majority. and as such more emery ro pe— majority. and as such more likely to be centrist or on the ngns— likely to be centrist or on the ngns-mosr- likely to be centrist or on the right, most people right, and that most people peneve— right, and that most people believe common sense to teach believe in common sense to teach some-corporations- some of these corporations a resson — some of these corporations a resson rne— some of these corporations a lesson. the americans have come up wrrn— lesson. the americans have come up wrrn e— lesson. the americans have come up wrrn e mover— lesson. the americans have come up with a novel invention , a up with a novel invention, a wove— up with a novel invention, a vote eren— up with a novel invention, a woke alert to— up with a novel invention, a woke alert to warn shoppers ensur— woke alert to warn shoppers about products— woke alert to warn shoppers about products pushing a perserveo— about products pushing a perceived left— about products pushing a perceived left wing agenda go wove.— perceived left wing agenda go vote go— perceived left wing agenda go woke, go broke— perceived left wing agenda go woke, go broke .— perceived left wing agenda go woke, go broke . you see, after woke, go broke. you see, after pennenng— woke, go broke. you see, after pennenng wrrn— woke, go broke. you see, after partnering with trans influencer pyren— partnering with trans influencer pyren nurveney.— partnering with trans influencer dylan mulvaney, who features on a dylan mulvaney, who features on e spesrrrseuy— dylan mulvaney, who features on a specifically designed bud signs— a specifically designed bud ggn, sen— a specifically designed bud light, can bud— a specifically designed bud light, can bud light's brand neve— light, can bud light's brand have apparently lost over $6 wruron— have apparently lost over $6 wrruon m— have apparently lost over $6 million in market value after a poysorr— million in market value after a mass boycott by— million in market value after a mass boycott by annoyed consumer . as— mass boycott by annoyed consumer . as for— mass boycott by annoyed consumer . as for onse— mass boycott by annoyed consumer . as for once the— mass boycott by annoyed consumer . as for once the right has spoken— . as for once the right has spoken yesterday and however, nussn— spoken yesterday and however, nussn rnnev— spoken yesterday and however, busch inbev ceo— spoken yesterday and however, busch inbev ceo brendan wnrrwonn— busch inbev ceo brendan whitworth said in a press eeerse— whitworth said in a press release titled— whitworth said in a press release titled our responsible worry— release titled our responsible worry so — release titled our responsible motty to america, we never rnrenoeo — motty to america, we never rnrenoeo ro — motty to america, we never intended to be— motty to america, we never intended to be part of a discussion— intended to be part of a discussion that divides people, he discussion that divides people, ne wens— discussion that divides people, ne wenr on— discussion that divides people, ne wenr on so— discussion that divides people, he went on to say, we are in the business— he went on to say, we are in the business or— he went on to say, we are in the business of bringing people rogerner— business of bringing people together over— business of bringing people together over a _ business of bringing people together over a beer . yes, that together over a beer. yes, that wens— together over a beer. yes, that wenr wew. — together over a beer. yes, that went well, but—

together over a beer. yes, that went well, but they're not eoner — went well, but they're not eoner less— went well, but they're not alone. lest we— went well, but they're not alone. lest we forget, nike , who alone. lest we forget, nike, who uses— alone. lest we forget, nike, who uses pyren— alone. lest we forget, nike, who uses pyren ro— alone. lest we forget, nike, who used dylan to promote sports pres— used dylan to promote sports pres eno— used dylan to promote sports bras and tampax, despite the fess— bras and tampax, despite the resr mer— bras and tampax, despite the resr rner ne— bras and tampax, despite the fact that he has— bras and tampax, despite the fact that he has no breasts and can never have— fact that he has no breasts and can never have a— fact that he has no breasts and can never have a period there superse— can never have a period there was gillette when— can never have a period there was gillette when it launched its was gillette when it launched rss enven— was gillette when it launched its advert against toxic masculinity. - its advert against toxic masculinity. it apparently lost 8 masculinity. it apparently lost so premon— masculinity. it apparently lost 8 onion m— masculinity. it apparently lost 8 billion in stocks. but it's nor— 8 billion in stocks. but it's nor tuss— 8 billion in stocks. but it's not just corporations who have been — not just corporations who have been seugnr— not just corporations who have been seugnr up— not just corporations who have been caught up pressing this rrperer— been caught up pressing this liberal woke— been caught up pressing this liberal woke agenda. the amensen— liberal woke agenda. the american school in london, which snerges— american school in london, which snerges ennuer— american school in london, which charges annual fees— american school in london, which charges annual fees of over eszooo— charges annual fees of over nozooo nor— charges annual fees of over £32,000 for older pupils, was prevrousry— £32,000 for older pupils, was previously ofsted _ £32,000 for older pupils, was previously ofsted rated outstanding— previously ofsted rated outstanding , previously ofsted rated outstanding, but previously ofsted rated outstanding , but then slipped outstanding, but then slipped two outstanding, but then slipped rwo greoes— outstanding, but then slipped two grades down to requires rmprovemenr— two grades down to requires improvement just above rneeeguere— improvement just above inadequate .— improvement just above inadequate . after an inspection inadequate. after an inspection inadequate. after an inspection in pesemper— inadequate. after an inspection in pesemper .— inadequate. after an inspection in december . you— inadequate. after an inspection in december . you see what in december. you see what neppeneo— in december. you see what happened there were inspect us wno— happened there were inspect us wno wee— happened there were inspect us wno sem— happened there were inspect us who were sent in— happened there were inspect us who were sent in after the esl reerureo— who were sent in after the esl reerureo m— who were sent in after the esl reerureo m e— who were sent in after the esl featured in a series of newspeper— featured in a series of newspaper articles which reponeo— newspaper articles which reported that— newspaper articles which reported that parents were concerned about a woke agenda at the concerned about a woke agenda at me smoot— concerned about a woke agenda at me ssnoor. eno— concerned about a woke agenda at the school, and they— concerned about a woke agenda at the school, and they complained sner— the school, and they complained rner sne— the school, and they complained that the children _ the school, and they complained that the children had been indoctrinated,_ that the children had been indoctrinated, indoctrinated in the indoctrinated, indoctrinated in me sunset— indoctrinated, indoctrinated in the critical race— indoctrinated, indoctrinated in the critical race theory . and the critical race theory. and men— the critical race theory. and new or— the critical race theory. and then, of course,— the critical race theory. and then, of course, there's nicola srurgeon-s— then, of course, there's nicola sturgeon's disastrous gender resognrrron— sturgeon's disastrous gender recognition reform bill, which ner— recognition reform bill, which saw her leave— recognition reform bill, which saw her leave office . although saw her leave office. although now more information on the

esrrvrrres— now more information on the esrrvrrres or— now more information on the activities of her— now more information on the activities of her husband are somrng— activities of her husband are somrnglrrgm.— activities of her husband are coming light, bill is coming to light, the bill is uvery— coming to light, the bill is likely-least- coming to light, the bill is likely-least of. likely to be the least of her propens— likely to be the least of her propiems—rri likely to be the least of her. problems._it was problems. nonetheless it was reponeo— problems. nonetheless it was reponeo sner— problems. nonetheless it was reported that the party lost a mne— reported that the party lost a mud or— reported that the party lost a mud or us— reported that the party lost a third of its members over the rssue— third of its members over the eno— third of its members over the end or— third of its members over the issue and of course, nicola left before— issue and of course, nicola left before-wes— issue and of course, nicola left before was pushed. before she was pushed. sir keir srermer— before she was pushed. sir keir starmer clearly— before she was pushed. sir keir starmer clearly worried after srruggung— starmer clearly worried after srruggung ro— starmer clearly worried after struggling to determine whether a woman has a penis , now says a woman has a penis, now says sner— a woman has a penis, now says rner 99.9%_ a woman has a penis, now says rner gggy. or— a woman has a penis, now says that 99.9% of women haven't got wnrsn— that 99.9% of women haven't got one, which means— that 99.9% of women haven't got one, which means 1— that 99.9% of women haven't got one, which means 1 in 1000 do. so one, which means 1 in 1000 do. so ne-s— one, which means 1 in 1000 do. so ne-s no— one, which means 1 in 1000 do. so he's now facing— one, which means 1 in 1000 do. so he's now facing questions over trans rights— so he's now facing questions over trans rights . the labour over trans rights. the labour teeter— over trans rights. the labour leader insisted— over trans rights. the labour leader insisted that if his party— leader insisted that if his peny on— leader insisted that if his peny sne— leader insisted that if his party won the next general eresrron— party won the next general election, there _ party won the next general election, there would be no rowing— election, there would be no rourng pesk— election, there would be no rolling back of— election, there would be no rolling back of women's rights. yes:— rolling back of women's rights. yes,-once he's- rolling back of women's rights. yes, once he's worked out yes, that's once he's worked out wner— yes, that's once he's worked out we one— yes, that's once he's worked out we rs— yes, that's once he's worked out what one is earlier— yes, that's once he's worked out what one is earlier in march, he sero— what one is earlier in march, he see nens— what one is earlier in march, he said trans women— what one is earlier in march, he said trans women are women and mess— said trans women are women and mess nor— said trans women are women and mess nor just— said trans women are women and mess nor use my— said trans women are women and that's not just my view. that's esrueuy— that's not just my view. that's esrueuy rne — that's not just my view. that's actually the law.— that's not just my view. that's actually the law. it falls to be perreveo. — actually the law. it falls to be believed. keir— actually the law. it falls to be believed. keir is— actually the law. it falls to be believed. keir is leading, rosrng— believed. keir is leading, rosmg nrs— believed. keir is leading, losing his lead. now the woke erens— losing his lead. now the woke erens m— losing his lead. now the woke erens in ne— losing his lead. now the woke alerts in the states to combat wove— alerts in the states to combat woke capitalism _ alerts in the states to combat woke capitalism to let potential customers know— woke capitalism to let potential customers know which companies are customers know which companies pursuing— customers know which companies pursurng e— customers know which companies are pursuing a liberal agenda , are pursuing a liberal agenda, are pursuing a liberal agenda, esrueuy— are pursuing a liberal agenda, are actually a— are pursuing a liberal agenda, are actually a free service sreereo— are actually a free service sreereo py— are actually a free service created by consumers, research eno— created by consumers, research ene rney-ve— created by consumers, research and they've already targeted a few companies— and they've already targeted a few companies like coca cola, serung— few companies like coca cola, serrrng mem— few companies like coca cola, calling them woke cola and srermrng— calling them woke cola and claiming that— calling them woke cola and claiming that levi's jeans were

wove— claiming that levi's jeans were wove wesneo— claiming that levi's jeans were wove wesneo .— claiming that levi's jeans were woke washed . the alerts are woke washed. the alerts are premen— woke washed. the alerts are prenneo ro— woke washed. the alerts are planned to be— woke washed. the alerts are planned to be rolled out next week.— planned to be rolled out next week. r— planned to be rolled out next week. i imagine— planned to be rolled out next week. i imagine it's not long before— week. i imagine it's not long before we— week. i imagine it's not long before we have— week. i imagine it's not long before we have our very own mere— before we have our very own version here in— before we have our very own version here in the uk. i'll be sne— version here in the uk. i'll be me fuss— version here in the uk. i'll be the first one— version here in the uk. i'll be the first one to— version here in the uk. i'll be the first one to sign up. go wove.— the first one to sign up. go wove. go— the first one to sign up. go woke, go broke— the first one to sign up. go woke, go broke .- the first one to sign up. go woke, go broke . right before we woke, go broke. right before we get woke, go broke. right before we ger srusv— woke, go broke. right before we ger srusv ro— woke, go broke. right before we ger srusv o m— woke, go broke. right before we get stuck to in the— woke, go broke. right before we get stuck to in the debate. heres— get stuck to in the debate. neres wner— get stuck to in the debate. here's what else is coming up rooey— here's what else is coming up rooey wrrn— here's what else is coming up today with the— here's what else is coming up today with the great british venere— today with the great british pepere rnrs— today with the great british debate this hour. i'm asking is joe debate this hour. i'm asking is roe nmen— debate this hour. i'm asking is joe nmen-ro— debate this hour. i'm asking is joe biden-to lead- debate this hour. i'm asking is joe biden to lead free joe biden fit to lead the free wowe— joe biden fit to lead the free worm-roe - joe biden fit to lead the free world joe biden's world following joe biden's vrsrr— world following joe biden's vrsrrro— world following joe biden's visit to ireland— world following joe biden's visit to ireland week, the visit to ireland this week, the 80 visit to ireland this week, the so yeer— visit to ireland this week, the so yeer ore— visit to ireland this week, the 80 year old us— visit to ireland this week, the 80 year old us president made neeounes— 80 year old us president made headlines and— 80 year old us president made headlines and gaffes once again. moem— headlines and gaffes once again. biden muddled— headlines and gaffes once again. biden muddled up— headlines and gaffes once again. biden muddled up the difference perween— biden muddled up the difference perween sne— biden muddled up the difference between the new— biden muddled up the difference between the new all between the new zealand all nresvs— between the new zealand all presvs ene — between the new zealand all blacks and the— between the new zealand all blacks and the black tans blacks and the black and tans eno— blacks and the black and tans ene e— blacks and the black and tans ene eiwews— blacks and the black and tans and a news exclusive revealed and a gb news exclusive revealed the and a gb news exclusive revealed sne—eppeereo- and a gb news exclusive revealed sne—eppeereo ro- the us president appeared to snub— the us president appeared to snub-nor— the us president appeared to snub-not flying. the us president appeared to snub not flying the snub the uk by not flying the upon— snub the uk by not flying the rest— snub the uk by not flying the union jack-the— snub the uk by not flying the union jack the beast motor union jack on the beast motor car union jack on the beast motor sner— union jack on the beast motor rner en— union jack on the beast motor car that an and— union jack on the beast motor car that an and it— union jack on the beast motor car that an and it flew the rnsn— car that an and it flew the irish national— car that an and it flew the irish national flag instead. so is nmen— irish national flag instead. so is nmen nr— irish national flag instead. so is biden fit to— irish national flag instead. so is biden fit to lead the free wowe— is biden fit to lead the free worro men— is biden fit to lead the free world then coming up at 450, it's world then coming up at 450, rss nme— world then coming up at 450, us one for— world then coming up at 450, it's time for our— world then coming up at 450, it's time for our royal roundup eno— it's time for our royal roundup ene sne— it's time for our royal roundup end we pony— it's time for our royal roundup and the body language guy ross's rnnguez— and the body language guy ross's rnnguez wru— and the body language guy ross's enriquez will be _ and the body language guy ross's enriquez will be joining us to give— enriquez will be joining us to give us— enriquez will be joining us to grve us sne— enriquez will be joining us to give us the latest from behind the give us the latest from behind

me perese— give us the latest from behind the palace walls. _ give us the latest from behind the palace walls. he's actually the palace walls. he's actually we ne-s— the palace walls. he's actually the he's fabulous.— the palace walls. he's actually the he's fabulous. he's a vouruper— the he's fabulous. he's a vouruper .— the he's fabulous. he's a youtuber. he's- the he's fabulous. he's a youtuber. he's a sensation. it's been— youtuber. he's a sensation. it's been revealed— youtuber. he's a sensation. it's been revealed that— youtuber. he's a sensation. it's been revealed that prince harry wru— been revealed that prince harry wrulsomrng— been revealed that prince harry will-coming home- been revealed that prince harry will coming home attend will be coming home to attend the will be coming home to attend sne—pur— will be coming home to attend. sne—pur-wru the coronation, but meghan will be sreyrng— the coronation, but meghan will be sreyrng m— the coronation, but meghan will be staying in california to look ener— be staying in california to look ene-nos— be staying in california to look after-kids and— be staying in california to look after-kids and the- be staying in california to look after kids and the duchess after the kids and the duchess of after the kids and the duchess or-rergre— after the kids and the duchess of-fergie hasn't- after the kids and the duchess of fergie hasn't been of york. fergie hasn't been rnvrreo— of york. fergie hasn't been rnvrreo ro— of york. fergie hasn't been invited to the— of york. fergie hasn't been invited to the coronation, but we-u— invited to the coronation, but wew-you— invited to the coronation, but we-u-you sne- invited to the coronation, but we'll you the latest on we'll bring you the latest on men— we'll bring you the latest on men rnen— we'll bring you the latest on that. then at— we'll bring you the latest on that. then at five, this that. then at five, it's this eeks— that. then at five, it's this week's difficult— that. then at five, it's this week's difficult conversation. that. then at five, it's this wetber difficult conversation. that. then at five, it's this wetber difficult to iversation. that. then at five, it's this wetber difficult to iversa'people i'll be speaking to three people who:— i'll be speaking to three people wno-wus— i'll be speaking to three people who, nhs backlogs, have who, due to nhs backlogs, have neo— who, due to nhs backlogs, have nee-emoeo— who, due to nhs backlogs, have had-abroad to— who, due to nhs backlogs, have had-abroad to get- had to go abroad to get operations— had to go abroad to get operations but still operations done, but still neven-r— operations done, but still haven't been— operations done, but still haven't been reimbursed the haven't been reimbursed by the nns.— haven't been reimbursed by the nns-promises— haven't been reimbursed by the nhs..promised ,— haven't been reimbursed by the nhs. promised , we'll find out nhs. as promised, we'll find out now— nhs. as promised, we'll find out now-mes— nhs. as promised, we'll find out how-lives-been- how their lives have been emesreo— how their lives have been affectedithat's - how their lives have been affected that's way how their lives have been- affected i that's -way in affected. that's on the way in ne— affected. that's on the way in sne-nour— affected. that's on the way in sne-noun .— affected. that's on the way in the-hour . as— affected. that's on the way in the-hour . as ever,- affected. that's on the way in the hour . as ever, me the next hour. as ever, tell me wner— the next hour. as ever, tell me we you— the next hour. as ever, tell me we you-on— the next hour. as ever, tell me what you on everything what you think on everything we're discussing. email gbviews@gbnews.uk or tweet me at . gb gbviews@gbnews.uk or tweet me at . so news.— gbviews@gbnews.uk or tweet me at . so wews. reigns— gbviews@gbnews.uk or tweet me at . gb news. right. let's welcome egern— . gb news. right. let's welcome egern ro— . gb news. right. let's welcome egern so my— . gb news. right. let's welcome egern so my penet— . gb news. right. let's welcome again to my panel columnist and proeosesrer— again to my panel columnist and broadcaster lizzie— again to my panel columnist and broadcaster lizzie cundy and ekso— broadcaster lizzie cundy and also political— broadcaster lizzie cundy and also political commentator sam poke. — also political commentator sam poke. pore— also political commentator sam poke. poke on.— also political commentator sam dola. dola oh, things on his need. — dola. dola oh, things on his need. nes— dola. dola oh, things on his need. ne-s gor— dola. dola oh, things on his head. he's got things on his need. — head. he's got things on his need. sem— head. he's got things on his head. sam, what's going on with your— head. sam, what's going on with your neme— head. sam, what's going on with your hair? this— head. sam, what's going on with your hair? this is— head. sam, what's going on with your hair? this is my natural nern — your hair? this is my natural nern r— your hair? this is my natural nern r just— your hair? this is my natural hair. ijust didn't— your hair? this is my natural hair. i just didn't straighten it hair. i just didn't straighten n rooey. — hair. i just didn't straighten it today. i've— hair. i just didn't straighten it today. i“ g; “g it today. i've been tugging. have you-product? -

it today. i've been tugging. have you .product? no i it today. i've been tugging. have you product? no product have you put product? no product in have you put product? no product mlweype— have you put product? no product in maybe like little in it. maybe like a little serum. oh. this product in serum. oh. so this product in it, serum. oh. so this product in rs-krke— serum. oh. so this product in rrluke e— serum. oh. so this product in it,-like a serum- oh. so this product in it, like a serum where i go it, it's like a serum where i go likew— it, it's like a serum where i go irks-know.— it, it's like a serum where i go like,-know,-you- it, it's like a serum where i go like, know, you tongue like, you know, have you tongue sner— like, you know, have you tongue mes—wo- like, you know, have you tongue. that—no tongues. that be honest. no, no tongues. you've known me for many years and you know, is curly, and you know, my hair is curly, naturally. well, that's interesting _ naturally. well, that's. interesting _be naturally. well, that's- interesting _ be good interesting that would be good to interesting that would be good ro-our— interesting that would be good ro-our eno— interesting that would be good to-out and about.- interesting that would be good to out and about. i've to see it out and about. i've got— to see it out and about. i've gor e— to see it out and about. i've gor e snor— to see it out and about. i've gore snorin— to see it out and about. i've got a shot it. now turn, got a shot of it. now turn, rese. — got a shot of it. now turn, rese. -rr.— got a shot of it. now turn, face.-it. good- got a shot of it. now turn, face. it. good god . it face. that's it. good god. it moves..moves- face. that's it. good god. it moves. moves the life of its moves. it moves the life of its rm— moves. it moves the life of its r-m sorry. — moves. it moves the life of its own. i'm sorry. i— moves. it moves the life of its own. d e own. i'm sorry. i thought it was all about natural at school all about natural hair at school . natural hair at work. it's got its twitter . natural hair at work. it's got its-twitter play. - . natural hair at work. it's got its-twitter play. yeah,- its own twitter play. yeah, exesrry. —r| its own twitter play. yeah,- exesty—r pero exactly. well it's mine. i paid for n.— exactly. well it's mine. i paid for n. nme— exactly. well it's mine. i paid for it. mine-get— exactly. well it's mine. i paid for it. mine get youtube. for it. mine to get you youtube. sen-r— for it. mine to get you youtube. sen-r rerk— for it. mine to get you youtube. sen-r rerk ro— for it. mine to get you youtube. can't talk to me— for it. mine to get you youtube. can't talk to me about- for it. mine to get you youtube. can't talk to me about fake- for it. mine to get you youtube. can't talk to me about fake hair anyway , let's move on. how dare anyway, let's move on. how dare you? well, anyway, let's move on. how dare youe wekk. we-kk— anyway, let's move on. how dare you? well, we'll start— anyway, let's move on. how dare you? well, we'll start with- rit“ how dare you? well, we'll start with you, sem — you? well, we'll start with you, sem rewor— you? well, we'll start with you, sam taylor, then. _ you? well, we'll start with you, sam taylor, then. let's let's go rnrougn— sam taylor, then. let's let's go rnrougn-rnrs- sam taylor, then. let's let's go through _this stuff. - sam taylor, then. let's let's go through this stuff. go through some of this stuff. go woke.— through some of this stuff. go wokelproke. — through some of this stuff. go woke, broke. finally, finally woke, go broke. finally, finally ,_.pgng._ woke, go broke. finally, finally ,_.pgng. r-ve- , the right is rising. i've never heard— , the right is rising. i've never heard such a load of old nonsense. what— never heard such a load of old nonsense. what i— never heard such a load of old nonsense. p»s never heard such a load of old nonsense. rt.er“ r/riter“ nonsense. what i can say. yeah. snowflakes left and right. trying to cancel . cancel luck. trying to cancel. cancel luck. i mean, did you see the video you— i mean, did you see the video you guys— i mean, did you see the video you guyse pro— i mean, did you see the video you guys? did you. did you see the you guys? did you. did you see me vroeo— you guys? did you. did you see the video with— you guys? did you. did you see the video with with. did you see the video with with. did you see me vroeo— the video with with. did you see the video with— the video with with. did you see the video with kid— the video with with. did you see the video with kid rock using an ak the video with kid rock using an ak we — the video with kid rock using an ak me me— the video with kid rock using an ak 47.7 the gun.— the video with kid rock using an ak 47.7 the gun. the- the video with kid rock using an ak 47? g. i“ g. i“ the video with kid rock using an ak 47? gt. “ gt. “ i.: ak 47? the gun. the gun used that mainly kills children in

the no, no. this time. this the uk? no, no. this time. this nme— the uk? no, no. this time. this one just— the uk? no, no. this time. this time just because. _ 7 no, no. this time. this time just because. because neseuse— time just because. because because bud— time just because. because because bud light sent a personalised— because bud light sent a personalised can which doesn't go on— personalised can which doesn't go on see— personalised can which doesn't go on seke er— personalised can which doesn't go on sale at all— personalised can which doesn't go on sale at all to dylan wurveney— go on sale at all to dylan nurveney . — go on sale at all to dylan mulvaney . so- go on sale at all to dylan mulvaney . so i- go on sale at all to dylan mulvaney . i“ e go on sale at all to dylan mulvaney. i“ go on sale at all to dylan- mulvaney . so i mean it's so they mulvaney. so i mean it's so they paid it. it's so pathetic. i've- paid it. it's so pathetic. i've r: . it's so pathetic. i've never seen anything. i“ never seen anything. so even the ukes— never seen anything. so even the ukes or— never seen anything. so even the likes of howard stern and joe rogan have been like, oh, it's goofy, it's embarrassing that everyone's like, oh my god, i'm not going to, know, as if not going to, you know, as if nike sharron davies nike care. if sharron davies isn't going to buy some of their wares, won't just sharron wares, it won't be just sharron davies. it will, believe me, wrke—nevel davies. it will, believe me,- wrke—neve you nike not buying it. have you seen burn nike bra seen the nike burn nike bra campaign? oh, whatever. it's ridiculous. nike like- t.rir“ r: “7 it's ridiculous. nike like even you were talking about about 3 union— were talking about about 3j billion _wiped were talking about about 3. billion—wiped off billion or something wiped off the billion or something wiped off rne—. — billion or something wiped off rne—. rney- billion or something wiped off the_. they don't.| the share price. they don't. fair enough. business. but fair enough. it's business. but like a flash in pan. like this is a flash in the pan. it's not going to make any difference. not going to make any difference— difference. not going to make any difference to— r: ”ri; ”ri; t not going to make any difference to their profits r: ”ri; ”ri; t not going to make an all. fference to their profits r: ”ri; ”ri; t not going to make an all. thence to their profits r: ”ri; ”ri; t not going to make an all. thence to thrbigirofits r: ”ri; ”ri; t not going to make an all. thence to thrbig boss; at all. the guy, the big boss guy— at all. the guy, the big boss guy-bud— at all. the guy, the big boss guy-nun nes- at all. the guy, the big boss guy bud has actually made guy from bud has actually made a sreremenr.— guy from bud has actually made a sreremenr. ne— guy from bud has actually made a statement. he made statement statement. he made a statement on—very— statement. he made a statement on—very women- on friday. he's very worried epour— on friday. he's very worried about-statement. about it. his statement basically was so basically was like it was so political, wasn't it? like it was a whole statement that said practically was like practically nothing. it was like we don't want to do this, but we

don't do but we don't want to do that. but we want do this. it was stupid. want to do this. it was stupid. i mean, let's look back at the 90 seconds in this country, for example, had example, where lily savage had he the face of pretty he she was the face of pretty polly, tights brand. nobody polly, the tights brand. nobody batted an eyelid. everybody thought it was fabulous back then. we didn't mind because my— then. we didn't mind because sky-nes— then. we didn't mind because lily-has fabulous- we didn't mind because lily has fabulous legs. lily savage has fabulous legs. keen. — lily savage has fabulous legs. keen. .we— lily savage has fabulous legs. yeah. .we would- lily savage has fabulous legs. yeah. we would like to see, yeah. and we would like to see, you— yeah. and we would like to see, you know.— yeah. and we would like to see, you know. enu— yeah. and we would like to see, you know, and lily— yeah. and we would like to see, you know, and lily savage also nor— you know, and lily savage also was not mimicking in caricature , was not mimicking in caricature . snowing— was not mimicking in caricature . snowrng women— was not mimicking in caricature , showing women very sort , showing women in a very sort of , showing women in a very sort or offensive — , showing women in a very sort of offensive manner. as i said, sevege— of offensive manner. as i said, sevege es— of offensive manner. as i said, savage was the— of offensive manner. as i said, savage was the genuine article . savage was the genuine article. oh, savage was the genuine article. on. — savage was the genuine article. on on.— savage was the genuine article. oh, see? oh, lily— savage was the genuine article. oh, see? cir“ can 3 oh, see? oh, lily savage was a genuine wasn't mimicking women at all, was it? no, no, not at all. that was her entire brand . all. that was her entire brand. no, no. but she wasn't doing it in e— no, no. but she wasn't doing it in e eerogerory.— no, no. but she wasn't doing it in a derogatory, mocking manner. as r— in a derogatory, mocking manner. as r seru— in a derogatory, mocking manner. as r seru ug— in a derogatory, mocking manner. as i said last week,— in a derogatory, mocking manner. as i said last week, that- in a derogatory, mocking manner. as i said last week, that is- as i said last week, that is some sort of if if you if some sort of if you if you if you follow if you follow dylan's journey, speak. yeah. you follow if you follow dylan's journey, speak . yeah. but journey, so to speak. yeah. but you will journey, so to speak. yeah. but you wrkk see— journey, so to speak. yeah. but you will see that— journey, so to speak. yeah. but you will see that it— journey, so to speak. yeah. but you will see that it isn't- yeah. but you will see that it isn't about moskrng— you will see that it isn't about moskrnglekk. — you will see that it isn't about mocking-all. it's— you will see that it isn't about mocking all. it's about mocking at all. it's about mes-s— mocking at all. it's about that's-brand.- that's just her brand. she's a somerenu— that's just her brand. she's a comedian.iyeah,_ that's just her brand. she's a comedian. r/riter“ �*7 �*7 comedian. yeah, fine, fine. rner-s— comedian. yeah, fine, fine. rner-s mes-s— comedian. yeah, fine, fine. that's that's the _ comedian. r/riter“ �*7 �*7 that's that's the brand. do that . nrs— that's that's the brand. do that . us nor— that's that's the brand. do that . c t “3 and let's be . it's not mocking. and let's be noness— . it's not mocking. and let's be nonesr. you— . it's not mocking. and let's be honest, you said— . it's not mocking. and let's be honest, you said it.— . it's not mocking. and let's be honest, you said it. let's- . c t “3 and let's be honest, you said it. let's be noness— honest, you said it. let's be nonesr. anu— honest, you said it. let's be honest. and everyone agree honest. and everyone will agree wrrn— honest. and everyone will agree wen-wor— honest. and everyone will agree wrrn-wor e— honest. and everyone will agree with - not a wiser- honest. and everyone will agree with \rrim r:rit. ri:“

with me. not a wiser decision. hey bud, get it? no, with me. not a wiser decision. hey bud, get it ? no, look, i hey bud, get it? no, look, i mean , for any business, this mean, for any business, this poor judgement has wiped off billions of a company. and anyone who's a boss of a company or the owner of a company, that is bad news . or the owner of a company, that is bad news. let me tell you. the worm is turning. it really is on his head. um , and it shows is on his head. um, and it shows the snowflakes— is on his head. um, and it shows the snowflakes and— is on his head. um, and it shows the snowflakes and the- ri:“ “ : um, and it shows the snowflakes and the wokes eren-r— the snowflakes and the wokes erenr gorng— the snowflakes and the wokes erenr gorng ro— the snowflakes and the wokes aren't going to win this. '“r: aren't going to win this. and, enu— aren't going to win this. and, enu es— aren't going to win this. and, enu es r— aren't going to win this. and, enu es r seru— aren't going to win this. and, and as i said, this— aren't going to win this. and, and as i said, this is- aren't going to win this. and, and as i said, this is a it's a travesty that dylan was doing this advert anyway, not dylan's fault, but as i said, the trans community should be, you know, looked after and cared with, understand and not used for a moneymaking campaign and not used like nicola sturgeon did as a political football . but the a political football. but the fact is what's happened, this is really turned and smacked them in the face. well, it's gone to snow— in the face. well, it's gone to snow sner— in the face. well, it's gone to snow rner n— in the face. well, it's gone to show that it really— “ t well, it's gone to show that it really does we can we emesr— show that it really does we can we can affect them _ show that it really does we can we can affect them if they want to we can affect them if they want so my— we can affect them if they want so rry-egenues- we can affect them if they want to try-agendas to- we can affect them if they want to try agendas to us, to try and push agendas to us, rnen— to try and push agendas to us, rneniekso— to try and push agendas to us, then-also look— to try and push agendas to us, then also look who made this then we also look who made this uesrsron. — then we also look who made this decision. budweiser.— then we also look who made this decision. : \rrir then we also look who made this decision. : \rir r/rim.” decision. budweiser. no your market? no. your demographics.

my father at and my father worked at saatchi and saatchi as an art director. he did castlemaine, fourex. those adverts always very blokey, adverts were always very blokey, very, very corny jokes out in australia . they were award australia. they were award winning adverts . yeah. and their winning adverts. yeah. and their their beers did so well. what was that? yeah, but no motty and it still is now. you wouldn't give— it still is now. you wouldn't give e— it still is now. you wouldn't give a castlemaine- c m you wouldn't give a castlemaine forex for enyrnrng— give a castlemaine forex for enyrnmg erse. — give a castlemaine forex for anything else. he did . well anything else. he did. well mere— anything else. he did. well rnere you— anything else. he did. well rnere you go. — anything else. he did. well there you go. r./rim m ”ri; there you go. you still remember there you go. you still remember the adverts. i want those. let them return. let them err: i want those. let them return. them return. let them return. nmen— them return. let them return. rmerr ensur— them return. let them return. email about that. _ them return. let them return. email about that. i- "rice. let them return. email about that. i wanted to see some of these ads come back peseuse— see some of these ads come back peseuse r— see some of these ads come back peseuse r wno— see some of these ads come back because i who made— see some of these ads come back because i who made this decision for nuuwerser— because i who made this decision for budweiser should be shown the for budweiser should be shown me door— for budweiser should be shown me soon. — for budweiser should be shown the door. you— for budweiser should be shown the door . you know,- for budweiser should be shown the door . r./rim ”cigar for budweiser should be shown the door. r./rim ”craig the door. you know, really they were trying to appease everyone . you know what what a stupid series. as i've said before, uke— series. as i've said before, krke sns— series. as i've said before, like this was— series. as i've said before, like this was the- as i've said before, like this was the thing with pyken— like this was the thing with dylan mulvaney was it was she wesnr— dylan mulvaney was it was she wesnr sne— dylan mulvaney was it was she wasn't the face— dylan mulvaney was it was she wasn't the face of— dylan mulvaney was it was she wasn't the face of . but they wasn't the face of. but they sem— wasn't the face of. but they senr rney— wasn't the face of. but they sent they sent— wasn't the face of. but they sent they sent her a case the same-same with- sent they sent her a case the same same with nike. same with the same with nike. it was same with the same with nike. it wes—pennersnrpl was it was a paid partnership, wnrsn— was it was a paid partnership, wnrsn neppens— was it was a paid partnership, which happens which happens all the which happens which happens all sne-wnrke— which happens which happens all sne-wnrre .,_ which happens which happens all rne-wnrre ., r— which happens which happens all the-while i, i read- which happens which happens all the while i, i read i read the time. while i, i read i read your— the time. while i, i read i read your prese— the time. while i, i read i read your prese m— the time. while i, i read i read your prese m m— the time. while i, i read i read your piece in in the daily mail, esruekky.— your piece in in the daily mail, esruekky. anu— your piece in in the daily mail, actually. and i— your piece in in the daily mail, actually. and i do.— your piece in in the daily mail, actually. and i do. how did you end— actually. and i do. how did you end r— actually. and i do. how did you

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well i think think pathetic, be think it's pathetic, to be honest also and honest with you. and also and ekso— honest with you. and also and ekso enu— honest with you. and also and ekso end for— honest with you. and also and also and for saying— and also and also and for saying like, you know.— also and for saying like, you know. we— also and for saying like, you know, we can't.— also and for saying like, you know, we can't. no cancel asian et know, we can't. no cancel asian er seerre— know, we can't. no cancel asian er seerre enu— know, we can't. no cancel asian et cetera and then— know, we can't. no cancel asian et cetera and then and then rryrng— et cetera and then and then rryrng ro— et cetera and then and then trying to cancel— et cetera and then and then trying to cancel bud light kind of sense— trying to cancel bud light kind of cancel nike— trying to cancel bud light kind of cancel nike because it's not working— of cancel nike because it's not working . — of cancel nike because it's not workrng . us.— of cancel nike because it's not working . no, no,— of cancel nike because it's not working . \rrir they didn't working. no, no, no. they didn't sensek— working. no, no, no. they didn't sensek sne— working. no, no, no. they didn't cancel the aslef._ working. no, no, no. they didn't cancel the aslef. no— working. \rrir they didn't cancel the aslef. no no. working. \rir they didn't cancel the aslef. no no. r./rim cancel the aslef. no no. you know.— cancel the aslef. no no. you know. were— cancel the aslef. no no. you know, there are— cancel the aslef. no no. you know, there are the- cancel the aslef. no no. you know, there are the ones saying

you want to cancel them, so therefore, you're the cancellation. so they haven't sensek—rneyi cancellation. so they haven't cancel they know cancel them selves. all they know is cancel themselves. all they know is cancel keir is going to be cancel keir starmer because he know starmer because he doesn't know what he's what a woman is unless he's going to affect them. i tell you what will and rishi's what it will and rishi's popularity arising because he popularity is arising because he knows woman is. it's knows what a woman is. it's affecting them all. - affecting them all. yeah. no kern— affecting them all. yeah. no keir starmer— affecting them all. yeah. no keir starmer says there are no soups— keir starmer says there are no uoupr epour— keir starmer says there are no doubt about it— keir starmer says there are no doubt about it that not being eure— doubt about it that not being epre ro— doubt about it that not being able to classify— doubt about it that not being able to classify clarify and srmpke— able to classify clarify and simple things— able to classify clarify and simple things like what a woman is end— simple things like what a woman is end somrng— simple things like what a woman rs ene somrng up— simple things like what a woman is and coming up with this woke egenues— is and coming up with this woke egenues rs— is and coming up with this woke agendas is definitely affecting bsiesses — agendas is definitely affecting businesses. it's— agendas is definitely affecting businesses. it's affecting poiiiisiens— businesses. it's affecting politicians .— businesses. it's affecting politicians . and we will teach politicians. and we will teach you— politicians. and we will teach you e— politicians. and we will teach you e iesson— politicians. and we will teach you a lesson. if— politicians. and we will teach you a lesson. if you think youre— you a lesson. if you think youre going— you a lesson. if you think youre going io- you a lesson. if you think you're going to preach your nonsense liberal to us. all igni— nonsense liberal to us. all rigni. vou— nonsense liberal to us. all right. you know- nonsense liberal to us. all right. you know what word that was came out-the- right. you know what word that was came out the end, right? was came out at the end, right? voure— was came out at the end, right? voure wim— was came out at the end, right? you're with me.— was came out at the end, right? you're with me. nana akua you're with me. i'm nana akua know— you're with me. i'm nana akua know-worri— you're with me. i'm nana akua know-wore in- you're with me. i'm nana akua know word in between, know there's a word in between, but know there's a word in between, bur-iner— know there's a word in between, bur-mes you— know there's a word in between,| but-that you -worked but i know that you guys worked it but i know that you guys worked ii—wiin— but i know that you guys worked ii—wiin me- but i know that you guys worked it_with me. i'm- but i know that you guys worked it with me. i'm nana it out. you're with me. i'm nana akue—wews- it out. you're with me. i'm nana akue—wews on- it out. you're with me. i'm nana akua.-news on tv. akua. this is gb news on tv oniine— akua. this is gb news on tv oniine. on— akua. this is gb news on tv oniine. on e— akua. this is gb news on tv online, on a digital radio. aber— online, on a digital radio. amer—ii-s- online, on a digital radio.- after-it's-for after the break, it's time for ine— after the break, it's time for sne-briiisn— after the break, it's time for. the-british-this the great british debate. this noun—roe- the great british debate. this| hour._joe biden hour. i'm asking, is joe biden fit hour. i'm asking, is joe biden iii-ine— hour. i'm asking, is joe biden iii-sne mee- hour. i'm asking, is joe biden fit the free world? he fit to lead the free world? he meie— fit to lead the free world? he made-another— fit to lead the free world? he made another gaffe. no made yet another gaffe. no surnsesp— made yet another gaffe. no surprises there— made yet another gaffe. no surprises there .— made yet another gaffe. no surprises there . during surprises there. during his visii— surprises there. during his visit-ireland— surprises there. during his visit ireland week, he visit to ireland this week, he mikes— visit to ireland this week, he mikes-ine— visit to ireland this week, he mixed _the all- visit to ireland this week, he mixed the all blacks and mixed up all the all blacks and the mixed up all the all blacks and sne-eni— mixed up all the all blacks and sne-ene iens— mixed up all the all blacks and the and tans. some people the black and tans. some people inougni— the black and tans. some people

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joining me now the free world? joining me now is wigei— the free world? joining me now is nigel gardiner.— the free world? joining me now is nigel gardiner. he's the iiresior— is nigel gardiner. he's the director margaret director of the margaret ineisner— director of the margaret thatcher centre for freedom at neriiege — thatcher centre for freedom at heritage foundation. benjamin buiierwonn.— heritage foundation. benjamin buiierwonn-e— heritage foundation. benjamin butterworth. a gb news butterworth. he's a gb news presenier— butterworth. he's a gb news presenier ior— butterworth. he's a gb news presenter for the _ butterworth. he's a gb news presenter for the saturday five. anne— presenter for the saturday five. anna mcgovern _ presenter for the saturday five.

anna mcgovern political anna mcgovern, political commentator. _ commentator. denis macshane, iormer— commentator. denis macshane, iormer iebour— commentator. denis macshane, former labour minister for iurope— former labour minister for iurope .— former labour minister for iurope . reigns.— former labour minister for europe . right. so i'm going to europe. right. so i'm going to sien— europe. right. so i'm going to sien wiin— europe. right. so i'm going to start with-nigel. - europe. right. so i'm going to start with nigel. you start with you, nigel. now you more— start with you, nigel. now you wroie—ine - wrote about biden in the ieiegrepn— wrote about biden in the ieiegrepn .— wrote about biden in the telegraph . you wrote about biden in the- telegraph .-you-remind telegraph. can you just remide us telegraph. can you just remind us oi— telegraph. can you just remind us oi wner— telegraph. can you just remind us oi wnei you— telegraph. can you just remind us of what you said ? yeah. us of what you said? yeah. inenks— us of what you said? yeah. inenks very— us of what you said? yeah. thanks very much for having me on ine— thanks very much for having me on me snow. — thanks very much for having me on the show. nana— thanks very much for having me on the show. \rer“er ' “r: thanks very much for having me on the show. \rer“er “r: thanks very much for having me on the show. \rer“er ' “r: on the show. nana and i have to say, i think that joe biden is monumentally unfit to be the president of the united states and the leader of the free world. he's also intensely anti—british. and world. he's also intensely anti—british . and i think anti—british. and i think increasingly— anti—british. and i think increasingly biden- c and i think increasingly biden is a laughing siosk— increasingly biden is a laughing siosk on— increasingly biden is a laughing siosk on ine— increasingly biden is a laughing stock on the world stage. creepy.— stock on the world stage. sieeriy. bers— stock on the world stage. clearly, he's out- stock on the world stage. clearly, he's out of- stock on the world stage. clearly, he's out of his- stock on the world stage. clearly, he's out of his mind. i think in some public settings , think in some public settings, he makes a multitude of gaffes , he makes a multitude of gaffes, but also at the same time , i but also at the same time, i think he deliberately attempts to undermine the us—uk special relationship . and a lot of his relationship. and a lot of his actions have been very insulting towards britain. he is somebody who does not attach great importance to the alliance with with the uk. of course, america's closest friend and ally, and significantly , biden ally, and significantly, biden has decided not to attend the coronation of king charles iii.

this is a clearly deliberate snub, i think, on the part of the us president. in addition to all of this, he was featured taking a selfie with gerry adams, who was the head of sinn fein, the political wing of the ira, deeply insulting, of course, to the memory of all of the victims of terrorism. and let's not forget, as well, the ira attempted to assassinate my former boss, margaret thatcher, in 1984. so joe biden, i think an absolute disgrace on the world stage, a declining figure and an embarrassment to the united states . hm. i and an embarrassment to the united states. hm. i think youre— united states. hm. i think youre giving— united states. hm. i think you're giving him- “ rir: hm. ithink you're giving him too much seein— you're giving him too much sreiii. i— you're giving him too much sreiii. iiusi— you're giving him too much credit. i just don't think i genuineiy— credit. i just don't think i genuinely think i genuinely ion-i— genuinely think i genuinely ion-i inink— genuinely think i genuinely don't think he— genuinely think i genuinely don't think he knows what he's going.— don't think he knows what he's doing. bui— don't think he knows what he's doing. our im— don't think he knows what he's doing. but i'm going to come to beniemin— doing. but i'm going to come to benjamin butterworth. benjamin besuse— benjamin butterworth. benjamin besuse i— benjamin butterworth. benjamin because i don't— benjamin butterworth. benjamin because i don't know what your inougnis— because i don't know what your inougnis-ii.— because i don't know what your thoughts-it. well- because i don't know what your thoughts it. well mean, thoughts are on it. well i mean, i thoughts are on it. well i mean, iinink— thoughts are on it. well i mean, rrnink roe— thoughts are on it. well i mean, i think joe biden— thoughts are on it. well i mean, i think joe biden is— thoughts are on it. well i mean, i think joe biden is proving to be e— i think joe biden is proving to be a remarkably— i think joe biden is proving to be a remarkably effective us presieeni. — be a remarkably effective us president. and— be a remarkably effective us president. ' “r: be a remarkably effective us president. '“r: r: be a remarkably effective us president. “r: r: president. and i'm afraid the truth is that people niall truth is that people like niall and a great chorus of the media, the wing media in the past the right wing media in the past couple of days just like couple of days just sound like monumental whingers, like they've to

they've not been invited to a birthday party they wanted to go to, the truth what to, you know, the truth is what you ballina , where he was you saw in ballina, where he was in mayo , is a celebration in county mayo, is a celebration of ireland , of someone whose of ireland, of someone whose great grandfather left the great great grandfather left the country came back as the country and came back as the most man in the world. most powerful man in the world. and the is that he won not and the truth is that he won not only 7 million more votes than donald trump at that us election, biggest lead that election, the biggest lead that any candidate has had in us history. but he kept on to history. but he also kept on to the senate at the midterms. he massively beat expectations. he destroyed the republicans in many areas. he beat the trump candidates across the board . and candidates across the board. and actually, i think a lot of people they're not people overseas, they're not trying him over the trying to mock him over the gerry adams. they're trying to criticise him for being geriatric that , as as criticise him for being gericoncerned,iat , as as criticise him for being geri concerned, has as as criticise him for being geri concerned, has a; as criticise him for being geri concerned, has a lot as criticise him for being geri concerned, has a lot more to i'm concerned, has a lot more to do than it his do with ageism than it does his competence. well, do with ageism than it does his competence . well, listen, i competence. well, listen, i inink— competence. well, listen, i think whilst— competence. well, listen, i think whilst anna- competence. well, listen, i think whilst anna is- t.riri“ t well, listen, i think whilst anna is speaking, if think whilst anna is speaking, ii we— think whilst anna is speaking, ii we sen— think whilst anna is speaking, if we can find— think whilst anna is speaking, if we can find that clip of joe biien— if we can find that clip of joe biden-didn't- if we can find that clip of joe- biden-didn't-where biden when he didn't know where to biden when he didn't know where io-oii— biden when he didn't know where io-oii-siege— biden when he didn't know where to-off-stage whilst- biden when he didn't know where to off stage whilst i to get off the stage whilst i ieiking— to get off the stage whilst i was talking _we i was talking and then we can remini— was talking and then we can remind ourselves— was talking and then we can remind ourselves you've remind ourselves of what you've iusi— remind ourselves of what you've puss—your— remind ourselves of what you've just your thoughts? just said. anna, your thoughts? i just said. anna, your thoughts? i no— just said. anna, your thoughts? i no noi— just said. anna, your thoughts? i do not think— just said. anna, your thoughts? i do not think he— just said. anna, your thoughts? i do not think he is fit to lead eni— i do not think he is fit to lead ene-meny— i do not think he is fit to lead and-many people- i do not think he is fit to lead and many people would and i think many people would egree— and i think many people would egree-inei. — and i think many people would agree that. “

agree with that. benjamin, i don't know you actually don't know if you actually believe what you're saying right now. i mean, it's just now. you know, i mean, it's just biden blunder. biden blunder after blunder. like him on like even when i hear him on doing like you doing his interviews like you can barely understand what he's saying, the i don't saying, half the time. i don't think understands what think he even understands what he's saying half the time. but i don't you could a don't think you could be a leader free world or, you leader of the free world or, you know, to know, champion yourself to be when seen when especially we've seen dunng when especially we've seen during the lockdowns, covid 19 pandemic, , he was pandemic, you know, he was really pushing for it. was really pushing for it. he was pushing children pushing for children to be wearing schools, which wearing masks in schools, which wearing masks in schools, which we know is very little we now know is very little evidence they actually evidence that they actually work. can you say you could work. how can you say you could be leader of the world be the leader of the free world when putting when you're putting such draconian measures children draconian measures on children and which i think is absolute disgrace. and i do not think he is competent and should not be anywhere near power . you is competent and should not be anywhere near power. you imagine him anywhere near power. you imagine mm min— anywhere near power. you imagine mm mm ine— anywhere near power. you imagine him with the red— anywhere near power. you imagine him with the red button,- you imagine him with the red button, come on and him with the red button, come on end i— him with the red button, come on end ii iner— him with the red button, come on and if that was— him with the red button, come on and if that was the— him with the red button, come on and if that was the nuclear bubon— and if that was the nuclear buiion. you-i— and if that was the nuclear button, you'd be quite happy, peny-emin— button, you'd be quite happy, neniemin io— button, you'd be quite happy, benjamin, to wait for him to press— benjamin, to wait for him to press ii.— benjamin, to wait for him to press in wner— benjamin, to wait for him to press it. what about you, bennise—il press it. what about you,- dennis?_| guess i'm press it. what about you,- denonly_| guess i'm press it. what about you, denonly member i guess i'm press it. what about you, denonly member of i guess i'm press it. what about you, denonly member of this|uess i'm the only member of this wonderful— the only member of this wonderful conversation that's mei— wonderful conversation that's. mes—iong met joe biden had a very long ieiks— met joe biden had a very long ieiks-nim— met joe biden had a very long ieiks-nim .— met joe biden had a very long talks-him , and- met joe biden had a very long talks him , and rather talks with him, and i'm rather iiseppoiniesi— talks with him, and i'm rather disappointed-have- talks with him, and i'm rather disappointed. i have to say. imagine on american

imagine me going on american television a few years ago and there were two american right wing commentators trashing the head of our state, the queen, because she was old, bit doddie needed a stick or whatever. i find biden is 80. he looks a lot younger— find biden is 80. he looks a lot younger men— find biden is 80. he looks a lot younger men e— find biden is 80. he looks a lot younger than a number of current sebinei— younger than a number of current cabinet ministers— younger than a number of current cabinet ministers .— younger than a number of current cabinet ministers . to be honest, cabinet ministers. to be honest, i cabinet ministers. to be honest, i soure— cabinet ministers. to be honest, i souii go— cabinet ministers. to be honest, i could go through— cabinet ministers. to be honest, i could go through all the wings— i could go through all the inings iner— i could go through all the things that he's accused of going.— things that he's accused of doing. some— things that he's accused of doing. some of— things that he's accused of doing. some of it complete and user— doing. some of it complete and utter rubbish. _ doing. some of it complete and utter rubbish. the— doing. some of it complete and utter rubbish. er“r: utter rubbish. the laptop and certainly the flag thing. that was just mentioned up- t g “3 that was just mentioned up on screen iner— was just mentioned up on screen we is— was just mentioned up on screen that is absolutely— was just mentioned up on screen that is absolutely obligatory eipiomeiis— that is absolutely obligatory diplomatic etiquette. he came on a diplomatic etiquette. he came on e sieie— diplomatic etiquette. he came on e sieie visii— diplomatic etiquette. he came on a state visit to— diplomatic etiquette. he came on a state visit to ireland when he in— a state visit to ireland when he was in ireland— a state visit to ireland when he was in ireland in— a state visit to ireland when he was in ireland in the republic of was in ireland in the republic oi ireiensi— was in ireland in the republic oi ireieni. i— was in ireland in the republic of ireland. i mean that of course , the— of ireland. i mean that of course , the stars and stripes course, the stars and stripes iiew— course, the stars and stripes iiew .— course, the stars and stripes iiew . ne— course, the stars and stripes flew . he accepted kindly an flew. he accepted kindly an inviieiion— flew. he accepted kindly an invitation to _ flew. he accepted kindly an invitation to go— flew. he accepted kindly an invitation to go to belfast universiiy— invitation to go to belfast university to _ invitation to go to belfast university to talk about poiiiiss. — university to talk about politics. they- university to talk about politics. they were delighted. ani— politics. they were delighted. and its— politics. they were delighted. and is e— politics. they were delighted. and it's a protestant as much as a and it's a protestant as much as eseinoiis.— and it's a protestant as much as a catholic. students there and youre— a catholic. students there and youre noi— a catholic. students there and you're not allowed to wave the neiionei— you're not allowed to wave the national flag. _ you're not allowed to wave the national flag. can— you're not allowed to wave the national flag. rcirer“ “g t“ national flag. can i bring can i bnng national flag. can i bring can i bring niall in? because he said

you're not allowed to wave the national flag is he right? is that true? well, let me just actually respond to a couple of points that dennis made. um, firstly, i've met joe biden. i mei— firstly, i've met joe biden. i mei nim— firstly, i've met joe biden. i met him when— firstly, i've met joe biden. i met him when he was vice president — met him when he was vice presieeni. i— met him when he was vice president. i have to say he was monumenieiiy— president. i have to say he was monumentally unimpressive then. bers— monumentally unimpressive then. ne-seven-iess— monumentally unimpressive then. he's even less impressive he's even more less impressive ioiey— he's even more less impressive ioieyle— he's even more less impressive ioieyle-ani- he's even more less impressive today-a-and this- he's even more less impressive today-a-and this is. today as a leader. and this is noi— today as a leader. and this is noi iusi— today as a leader. and this is noi iusi en— today as a leader. and this is not just an issue— today as a leader. and this is not just an issue of age here. i do not just an issue of age here. i no inink— not just an issue of age here. i do think biden— not just an issue of age here. i do think biden is— not just an issue of age here. i do think biden is a fundamentally flawed president. he nes— fundamentally flawed president. he has significant character iiews— he has significant character iiews nere. — he has significant character flaws here. he's— he has significant character flaws here. he's also, i think , flaws here. he's also, i think, as a president,— flaws here. he's also, i think, as a president, quite vicious eni— as a president, quite vicious eni messy.— as a president, quite vicious and nasty. and— as a president, quite vicious and nasty. and he's also overseen a— and nasty. and he's also overseen a stunning decline of the overseen a stunning decline of me unnee— overseen a stunning decline of the united states— overseen a stunning decline of the united states on the world siege— the united states on the world siege .— the united states on the world siege . ani — the united states on the world siege . one you— the united states on the world stage . and you look at the state stage. and you look at the state of stage. and you look at the state oi ine— stage. and you look at the state oi ine us— stage. and you look at the state of the us economy— stage. and you look at the state of the us economy soaring levels of the us economy soaring levels oi snme— of the us economy soaring levels oi in— of the us economy soaring levels of crime in america— of the us economy soaring levels of crime in america and open borders— of crime in america and open boriers .— of crime in america and open boriers . e— of crime in america and open boriers . e nuge— of crime in america and open borders , a huge crisis here on borders, a huge crisis here on so meny— borders, a huge crisis here on so meny ieveis. — borders, a huge crisis here on so many levels. this is a deeply unpoppei— so many levels. this is a deeply unpopped president. you look at the unpopped president. you look at me opinion— unpopped president. you look at the opinion polls— unpopped president. you look at the opinion polls in the united sseies— the opinion polls in the united sieies moss— the opinion polls in the united states, most americans want him out states, most americans want him ouowi—n- states, most americans want him ouowi—n peny.- out even within his own party, he out even within his own party, be is— out even within his own party, he is increasingly— out even within his own party, he is increasingly unpopular. so this he is increasingly unpopular. so mm is— he is increasingly unpopular. so mm is e— he is increasingly unpopular. so this is a president,— he is increasingly unpopular. so this is a president, i think, in a this is a president, i think, in e very— this is a president, i think, in every sieep— this is a president, i think, in a very steep state of decline, esiueiiy— a very steep state of decline, esiueiiy .— a very steep state of decline, esiueiiy . i— a very steep state of decline, actually , i noticed that that

actually, i noticed that that sign-i— actually, i noticed that that eien-i repiy— actually, i noticed that that didn't reply to— actually, i noticed that that didn't reply to my point. r./rim didn't reply to my point. you mens— didn't reply to my point. you meue eu— didn't reply to my point. you made all that— didn't reply to my point. you made all that stuff- didn't reply to my point. you made all that stuff about the flag . it's simply almost flag. it's simply almost technically illegal for a head of to state fly. give him time to fly his own flag, her own flag in a foreign country, unless on a state just stop talking. dennis well, you're esking— talking. dennis well, you're esking nim — talking. dennis well, you're asking him to— “3 dennis well, you're asking him to answer, but you're siiii— asking him to answer, but you're siiii ieiking— asking him to answer, but you're still talking. how— asking him to answer, but you're still talking. how can god now? keen— still talking. how can god now? em you— still talking. how can god now? em you know.— still talking. how can god now? yeah you know, i— still talking. how can god now? yeah you know, i think that besiseiiy— yeah you know, i think that basically with— yeah you know, i think that basically with president biden, mere-s— basically with president biden, inere-s en— basically with president biden, there's an unwillingness esiueiiy— there's an unwillingness esiueiiy io— there's an unwillingness actually to acknowledge the uniiei — actually to acknowledge the united kingdom and it's all eboui— united kingdom and it's all eboui ii-s— united kingdom and it's all about it's all— united kingdom and it's all about it's all about ireland bere— about it's all about ireland nere. wnisn— about it's all about ireland here, which is— about it's all about ireland here, which is the overwhelming irmrnense— here, which is the overwhelming irmnense oi— here, which is the overwhelming dominance of his— here, which is the overwhelming dominance of his trip. ri; dominance of his trip. he spent a dominance of his trip. he spent eiew— dominance of his trip. he spent eiew bours— dominance of his trip. he spent a few hours in belfast, four days in in ireland that that does says say it all actually this is a president who has i think gone to great lengths to inqu think gone to great lengths to insult the united kingdom in every respect . he started off every respect. he started off his presidency by removing a bust of winston churchill from the office , just barack the oval office, just as barack obama before him. and it's obama did before him. and it's been downhill since then. well again, to benjamin. well, i'm sorry, but again, to benjamin. well, i'm sorry. bui ii— again, to benjamin. well, i'm sorry, but if supernanny- erger “ “ well, i'm sorry, but if supernanny were in ibis— sorry, but if supernanny were in this conversation— sorry, but if supernanny were in this conversation ,— sorry, but if supernanny were in this conversation , anna and this conversation, anna and weir.— this conversation, anna and gpgr, you-i— this conversation, anna and

niall, you'd be— this conversation, anna and niall, you'd be on the naughty siep— niall, you'd be on the naughty siep ior— niall, you'd be on the naughty step for whinging about another souniry— step for whinging about another country celebrating joe biden . country celebrating joe biden. mowi— country celebrating joe biden. wow. so— country celebrating joe biden. wow. is ieke— country celebrating joe biden. now, to take niall's_ country celebrating joe biden. now, to take niall's point- now, to take niall's point directly about the us economy, he said it's doing badly. well, its rate is 2.9. what's its growth rate is 2.9. what's ours ? about 0% and has been for ours? about 0% and has been for well over a year. their inflation rate, the latest figures say it's 5. what's ours 7 figures say it's 5. what's ours ? something like ten, 11. so if he's doing badly, then my god, how bad are the tories doing in britain ? i one word to you, anna britain? i one word to you, anna sov— britain? i one word to you, anna .sov weir.— britain? i one word to you, anna .sov weii. i— britain? i one word to you, anna .gov well, i just— britain? i one word to you, anna .gov well, i just think— “7 i one word to you, anna .gov well, i just think that he is noi— .gov well, i just think that he is not competent— .gov well, i just think that he is not competent to lead the to keen— is not competent to lead the to ieei ine— is not competent to lead the to lead the united— is not competent to lead the to lead the united states. r:rir“ c lead the united states. i don't mink— lead the united states. i don't ibink be— lead the united states. i don't think he should be anywhere near power either. and i don't think that there should be any endorsement you know, endorsement of him, you know, being he being in that position. he should out of there as should be out of there as quickly as possible. i think . quickly as possible. i think. well, let's let's go we leave iner— well, let's let's go we leave ineiline— well, let's let's go we leave that the american fit or not that to the american fit or not fit. that to the american fit or not is -or— that to the american fit or not is -or-weii- fit. just fit or not fit. well fit. just fit or not fit. well iiilnoi— fit. just fit or not fit. well fit i not .well, - fit. just fit or not fit. well fit i not .well, of. fit. just fit or not fit. well- fit. not .well, of course fit or not fit. well, of course he's fit. okay we need to amensens— he's fit. okay we need to americans, frankly,- �*7 c olga]; we need to americans, frankly, now we snouii — americans, frankly, now we snouii be — americans, frankly, now we should be insulting the head of our should be insulting the head of siosesi— should be insulting the head of our closest friend,— should be insulting the head of our closest friend, dennis. inenk— our closest friend, dennis.

inenk you— our closest friend, dennis. inenk you .— our closest friend, dennis. thank you , anna. fit or not fit? thank you, anna. fit or not fit? beiiniieiy— thank you, anna. fit or not fit? beiiniieiy noi— thank you, anna. fit or not fit? definitely not fit.— thank you, anna. fit or not fit? definitely not fit. absolutely nor.— definitely not fit. absolutely not. benjamin— definitely not fit. absolutely not. benjamin fit or not fit. fit not. benjamin fit or not fit. rii ani— not. benjamin fit or not fit. fit and what— not. benjamin fit or not fit. fit and what about you now? fit or noi— fit and what about you now? fit or noi iii— fit and what about you now? fit or noi is e — fit and what about you now? fit or not fit ? c. c or not fit? monumentally unfit to be president of the united states and the leader of the free world. fantastic. thank you so much. noelle gardner, biresior— so much. noelle gardner, biresior oi— so much. noelle gardner, director of the— rt.“ noelle gardner, director of the margaret ineisner— director of the margaret thatcher-for- director of the margaret thatcher for freedom director of the margaret- thatcher-for freedom at thatcher centre for freedom at neriiege — thatcher centre for freedom at heritage foundation. benjamin buiierwonn— butterworth is gb news co—presenter- butterworth is gb news co—presenter five, co—presenter for saturday five, wnisn— co—presenter for saturday five, wnisn is— co—presenter for saturday five, wnisn is on— co—presenter for saturday five, which is on later— co—presenter for saturday five, which is on later on tonight at eigni.— which is on later on tonight at eigni. benis— which is on later on tonight at eight. denis macshane, former which is on later on tonight at eight. iministercshane, former which is on later on tonight at eight. iministercsh europe'mer which is on later on tonight at eight. iministercsh europe and labour minister for europe and anne— labour minister for europe and anna mcgovern,— labour minister for europe and anna mcgovern, political commentator. _ anna mcgovern, political commentator. thank you so much for commentator. thank you so much ion—eri— commentator. thank you so much ior—eii oi— for joining me, all of you. inenk— for joining me, all of you. thank-much.- for joining me, all of you. thank-much. do thank you very much. so what do you-inen— thank you very much. so what do you-men is— thank you very much. so what do you-men is be— thank you very much. so what do you-then is he fit?- thank you very much. so what do you-then is he fit? is- thank you very much. so what do you then is he fit? is he you think then is he fit? is he fit you think then is he fit? is he is or— you think then is he fit? is he is or-iiie— you think then is he fit? is he is or-iiie i— you think then is he fit? is he fit or-fit? i don't- you think then is he fit? is he fit or fit? i don't think fit or not fit? i don't think siey— fit or not fit? i don't think so. stay tuned,- fit or not fit? i don't think so. stay tuned, though, because, of so. stay tuned, though, because, oi soursei-s- so. stay tuned, though, because, of course,-is part- of course, benjamin is part of ine— of course, benjamin is part of sne—bers- of course, benjamin is part of sne—nes goingi the saturday five. he's going to be-wnei— the saturday five. he's going to be-wneileni- the saturday five. he's going to be _what.and the. be telling us what he and the seem— be telling us what he and the seem-going— be telling us what he and the seem-going io— be telling us what he and the team .going to be - be telling us what he and the team going to be debating team are going to be debating songbi— team are going to be debating ionigni.-going- tonight. what's going on at eigni.— tonight. what's going on at eigni. — tonight. what's going on at eigni. were— tonight. what's going on at eight. �*rfvrrri; ”ri; 91573 tonight. what's going on at eight. 91573 eight. we're going to be discussing sam smith. they've been lots this week. been in the news lots this week. that'll the that'll get you going in the news. there's only one of him i knew— news. there's only one of him i knew-wes— news. there's only one of him i knew-wes going— news. there's only one of him i knew-was going to- there's only one of him i knew was going to get you knew that was going to get you going. — knew that was going to get you going. knu— knew that was going to get you going. knu inen— knew that was going to get you going. and then .so- knew that was going to get you going. ' “r: “it“ m knew that was going to get you. going. and then .so we'll be going. and then also so we'll be looking other topics looking at lots of other topics as which have to as well, which you'll have to tune 8 pm. for fisher tune in at 8 pm. for fisher them. fisher them. sam thank you very—rook-

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ani— great british debate this hour. and in — great british debate this hour. and i'm asking— great british debate this hour. and i'm asking is joe biden fit to and i'm asking is joe biden fit io-ine— and i'm asking is joe biden fit io-ine iree— and i'm asking is joe biden fit to -the free world?- and i'm asking is joe biden fit to the free world? now he's to lead the free world? now he's 80 to lead the free world? now he's so yeers— to lead the free world? now he's so yeers oii. — to lead the free world? now he's 80 years old. he's— to lead the free world? now he's 80 years old. he's the us presiieni— 80 years old. he's the us president-he's- 80 years old. he's the us president he's just president and he's just concluded— president and he's just concluded trip to ireland concluded his trip to ireland ibis— concluded his trip to ireland inis week— concluded his trip to ireland this week where _ concluded his trip to ireland this week where he appeared to snub— this week where he appeared to snub-by— this week where he appeared to snub-by iiying- this week where he appeared to snub by flying the irish snub the uk by flying the irish iieg— snub the uk by flying the irish iieg reiner— snub the uk by flying the irish flag rather than— snub the uk by flying the irish flag rather than the union jack onibeesi— flag rather than the union jack on-beast motor— flag rather than the union jack on beast motor car. biden, on his beast motor car. biden, known— on his beast motor car. biden, known-bis— on his beast motor car. biden, known-his gaffes,- on his beast motor car. biden, known his gaffes, also known for his gaffes, also soniusei— known for his gaffes, also confused the _ known for his gaffes, also confused the new zealand all biesks— confused the new zealand all biesks-ine — confused the new zealand all blacks .the black - confused the new zealand all blacks the black and blacks with the black and tans, seusing— blacks with the black and tans, causing further— blacks with the black and tans, causing further embarrassment, wiin— causing further embarrassment, with - questioning - causing further embarrassment, with questioning his with many questioning both his neeiin— with many questioning both his health-whether— with many questioning both his health whether he's actually health and whether he's actually fit health and whether he's actually iii-enoiner— fit to stand another presidential election, which i inink— presidential election, which i ininklpreiiy— presidential election, which i think pretty obvious. the think is pretty obvious. the sesoni— think is pretty obvious. the second term— think is pretty obvious. the second term in— think is pretty obvious. the second term in office. come on. ine— second term in office. come on. me presiieni— second term in office. come on. the president ended his trip iess— the president ended his trip iesi nigni— the president ended his trip last night with— the president ended his trip last night with an energetic iereweii— last night with an energetic farewell speech— last night with an energetic farewell speech in berlin in an eiiempi— farewell speech in berlin in an eiiempi io— farewell speech in berlin in an attempt to show— farewell speech in berlin in an attempt to show that he's still up ior— attempt to show that he's still up ior ine— attempt to show that he's still up ior rne j'0b- — attempt to show that he's still up for the job. so— attempt to show that he's still up for the job. so the great up for the job. so for the great briiisn— up for the job. so for the great briiisn-inis— up for the job. so for the great british-this hour- up for the job. so for the great british _this hour ,- up for the job. so for the great british this hour , i'm british debate this hour, i'm esking.— british debate this hour, i'm esking. is— british debate this hour, i'm esking. is roe— british debate this hour, i'm asking, is joe biden fit to lead the asking, is joe biden fit to lead one iree— asking, is joe biden fit to lead the free world?— asking, is joe biden fit to lead the free world? let's see what my— the free world? let's see what my penei— the free world? let's see what my penei meke— the free world? let's see what my panel make of— the free world? let's see what my panel make of that. i'm ioinei— my panel make of that. i'm ioinee by— my panel make of that. i'm joined by broadcaster and soiumnisi— columnist lizzie cundy. also a poiiiisei—seml columnist lizzie cundy. also a. political—sam dodi political commentator, sam dodi . reoie— political commentator, sam dodi . reoie iore— political commentator, sam dodi . paola tola. lizzie— political commentator, sam dodi . paola tola. lizzie cundy is he iiis— . paola tola. lizzie cundy is he is i— . paola tola. lizzie cundy is he is i meen— . paola tola. lizzie cundy is he fit? i mean, look,— . paola tola. lizzie cundy is he fit? i mean, look, people are ieiking— fit? i mean, look, people are reiking even— fit? i mean, look, people are talking even mentioning a second serm— talking even mentioning a second ierm. wnisn— talking even mentioning a second ierm. wnisn i.— talking even mentioning a second ierm. wnisn ., i— talking even mentioning a second term, which i, i find— term, which i, i find astonishing- term, which i, i find astonishing because we can i imegine— astonishing because we can i

mean, imagine how old will he be mens— mean, imagine how old will he be inens — mean, imagine how old will he be inens os— mean, imagine how old will he be inens os ei— mean, imagine how old will he be then? 82 at the— mean, imagine how old will he be then? 82 at the end— mean, imagine how old will he be then? 82 at the end of- mean, imagine how old will he be then? 8:7 ri“r: then? 82 at the end of this. then there'll be 86. will he? i mean, it's just time to hang up your boots . you know what? i've your boots. you know what? i've got an idea for him. why didn't he write a book on 100 best gaffes and. and have someone to help him called harry? i mean, seriously, he needs to he really needs to stop this. it's actually worrying him. i get nervous watching him. and when he starts to talk about what next mistake he's going to do and if he doesn't know the difference between the black tans and, you know, the all blacks, i mean, some people would say, you know, did he really mean to say that? well, he know. what really mean to say that? well, he know . what day does he doesn't know. what day does know— he doesn't know. what day does know-iei— he doesn't know. what day does know-let-what- know what let alone what he's seying. — know what let alone what he's seying. .iike— know what let alone what he's seying. .iike so- know what let alone what he's saying. .like so many- know what let alone what he's saying. c “ery ” saying. and like so many irish americans adopted this americans have adopted this outdated prejudice and he is so anti the uk. i mean, look at the relationships that we used to have with america. margaret thatcher, ronald reagan, blair and bush . now we had rishi and bush. now we had rishi meeting biden. i mean, rishi didn't even have a chance for his coffee to go cold. well,

well, they had— his coffee to go cold. well, well, they had the- “ t grir rt.imr: well, well, they had the car. the beesi— well, they had the car. the beast parked.— well, they had the car. the beast parked. you couldn't esiueiiy— beast parked. you couldn't actually see— beast parked. you couldn't actually see him meeting rishi. no, actually see him meeting rishi. wo. eiiben— actually see him meeting rishi. no, either. and— actually see him meeting rishi. no, either. and also, rishi was so-inei— no, either. and also, rishi was so _that-couldn't- so short that you couldn't esiueiiy— so short that you couldn't actually - now, i so short that you couldn't- actually - now, that's actually see. well, now, that's ine— actually see. well, now, that's one side— actually see. well, now, that's one side oi— actually see. well, now, that's the side of the— actually see. well, now, that's the side of the car. i thought he the side of the car. i thought ne-very— the side of the car. i thought he very disrespectful . he was very disrespectful. iook. — he was very disrespectful. iook. .given — he was very disrespectful. look, - given the - he was very disrespectful. look, - given the two i look, he's given the two fingered for me to the fingered salute for me to the uk. he's not coming to the coronation fryston, which i think do you think he think is do you think he actually knows he's doing ? actually knows what he's doing? because, a serious because, look, on a serious nose.— because, look, on a serious noie.|inink— because, look, on a serious note, think suffering note, i think he's suffering wiin— note, i think he's suffering win some— note, i think he's suffering with some ailment there with some sort of ailment there iner— with some sort of ailment there inei-snouii— with some sort of ailment there that-should be- with some sort of ailment there that should be seen to that really should be seen to eni— that really should be seen to end i— that really should be seen to end i-inink— that really should be seen to and i-think and- that really should be seen to and i think and they won't and i don't think and they won't he and i don't think and they won't be sen-i— and i don't think and they won't be sent ieke— and i don't think and they won't he can't take questions, so mere-s— he can't take questions, so inere-s no— he can't take questions, so there's no questions yeah. there's no questions ever. yeah. ani— there's no questions ever. yeah. ami—you- there's no questions ever. yeah. ami—you sen-il there's no questions ever. yeah. and him _you can't. there's no questions ever. yeah. and him any you can't there's no questions ever. yeah. and him any questions. can't there's no questions ever. yeah. and him any questions. somebody ask him any questions. somebody eise— ask him any questions. somebody eise sienis— ask him any questions. somebody else stands in.— ask him any questions. somebody else stands in. why? because bers— else stands in. why? because nes-io— else stands in. why? because ne-s-io ii. - else stands in. why? because. he's-do it. .look he's not fit to do it. sam look re.— he's not fit to do it. sam look be. be— he's not fit to do it. sam look he, he got into the race, the presidential race in order to battle trump because he was incredibly worried about about what trump had done to the country in the last four years, abouti country in the last four years, about i mean, you talk about gaffes. imean, about i mean, you talk about gaffes. i mean, trump was gaffe senirei. — gaffes. i mean, trump was gaffe senirei. wor— gaffes. i mean, trump was gaffe central. not as— gaffes. i mean, trump was gaffe central. not as many- gaffes. i mean, trump was gaffe central. not as many as.- g i mean, trump was gaffe central. brir yes, central. not as many as. yes, yes, central. not as many as. yes, yes ier— central. not as many as. yes, yes. ier. ier— central. not as many as. yes, yes, far, far, far,— central. not as many as. yes, yes, far, far, far, far— central. not as many as. yes, yes, far, far, far, far too- yes, far, far, far, far too meny.— yes, far, far, far, far too meny. bui— yes, far, far, far, far too many, but not- yes, far, far, far, far too many, but not worrying gaffes iike— many, but not worrying gaffes iike-ine— many, but not worrying gaffes like-the stairs.- many, but not worrying gaffes like _the stairs. i like falling up the stairs. weir.— like falling up the stairs. well, _worrying l well, worrying, worrying gaffes like having like worrying gaffes, like having, you know,

various criminal criminal problems know , and problems and, you know, and being accused of being accused of various sexual assault, rape. you know, none. none. none. joe biden has never had any of that. joe biden has never had any of that half the gaffes that that done. half the gaffes that biien— that done. half the gaffes that mien-iome— that done. half the gaffes that biden-done..course.- : half the gaffes that biden done. course. of biden has done. of course. of —souseyou- course, he is. what, you mean iike— course, he is. what, you mean iike ieiiing— course, he is. what, you mean like telling people? like ieiiing— like telling people? like telling people- like telling people? like telling people like telling people inject bleach telling people like telling pe0jtheir inject bleach telling people like telling pe0jtheir yeah:t bleach telling people like telling pe0jtheir yeah he leach telling people like telling pe0jtheir yeah he did.h telling people like telling pe0jtheir yeah he did. into their that. yeah he did. anyway. anyway, look look my point that i do point my point is that i do really joe biden. i'm a really like joe biden. i'm a massive have a really like joe biden. i'm a massiveihave a great- fi�*iliij�*cc�*u' c r:rit“ i'm a massive have a great interest massive i have a great interest in amerisen— massive i have a great interest in american politics. find it in american politics. i find it eninreiiing— in american politics. i find it enthralling thing and do i think that enthralling thing and do i think one be— enthralling thing and do i think that he should— enthralling thing and do i think that he should run again? irobebiy— that he should run again? probably not.— that he should run again? probably not. but there aren't mere— probably not. but there aren't inere eren-i— probably not. but there aren't there aren't enough stars in the oemosreiis— there aren't enough stars in the democratic party— there aren't enough stars in the democratic party coming up. i iike— democratic party coming up. i mean, like people say, a democratic— mean, like people say, a democratic party democratic. briir democratic party democratic. no . iss— democratic party democratic. no . ii-s puss— democratic party democratic. no . ii-s iusi oss— democratic party democratic. no . ii-s puss esso oi— democratic party democratic. no , it's just 37% of democrats. - democratic party democratic. briir , it's just 37% of democrats. i might have done want biden. reen— might have done want biden. keen. i— might have done want biden. keen. i know— might have done want biden. yeah, i know. _ might have done want biden. yeah, i know. i— might have done want biden. yeah, i know . 80 might have done want biden. yeah, i know . 30 yeah, i know. i think 80 is so old at the end of the 86. i agree. i agree. i don't want any iike— agree. i agree. i don't want any iike over— agree. i agree. i don't want any more like over so— agree. i agree. i don't want any more like over so much. ri more like over so much. he must be nursing— more like over so much. he must be hurting the whole i don't think i don't think i mean if you at our country for you look at our country for example mean wouldn't we

example i mean we wouldn't we wouldn't having an an wouldn't abide having an an eight on ballot and eight year old on the ballot and we wouldn't abide having like same trump, who was in same as trump, who was like in his mid 70s. they need his in his mid 70s. they need they his in his mid 705. they need iney neei— his in his mid 705. they need iney neee young— “ “ “ r: roier they need they need young blood. “ “ “ r: roi they need they need young blood. both periies— parties need young blood necessarily about age because i think are some very fit think there are some very fit eight olds have really eight year olds who have really alright bodies who can actually who compos alright bodies who can actually who who compos alright bodies who can actually who who could compos alright bodies who can actually who who could getmpos alright bodies who can actually who who could get on as alright bodies who can actually who who could get on with mentis, who could get on with that. but to me it looks to me iike— that. but to me it looks to me iike-biien— that. but to me it looks to me iike-biien is— but to me it looks to me like biden is suffering from like joe biden is suffering from a neurological— like joe biden is suffering from a neurological disorder and he kooks— a neurological disorder and he kooks-noi— a neurological disorder and he looks-not fit- a neurological disorder and he looks-not fit to - a neurological disorder and he looks not fit to lead looks like he is not fit to lead ine— looks like he is not fit to lead one iree— looks like he is not fit to lead the free world. _ looks like he is not fit to lead the free world. he— looks like he is not fit to lead the free world. he cannot even answer any questions. right. he ioesn-i— doesn't answer questions. somebody— doesn't answer questions. somebody stands in. and somebody else stands in. and iney— somebody else stands in. and even they struggle to excuse the gas even they struggle to excuse the ges iner— even they struggle to excuse the ges one be — even they struggle to excuse the gas that he met. _ even they struggle to excuse the gas that he met. ' t gas that he met. america deserves a dynamic leader. you know, someone that can, as you said, nana answer questions and not you're not sitting there worrying, thinking, oh, gosh, what's he going to. agree with what's he going to. i agree with you. with now, agree you. mess up with now, i agree with you. but they were but they were it. they were in a they were in it. they were in a they were-sine— were in it. they were in a they were-state of— rrrri”ri “ c they were in a they were state of desperation. were in a state of desperation. inei-s—roe- were in a state of desperation. that's—joe biden that's why that's why joe biden sieppei— that's why that's why joe biden stepped-because- that's why that's why joe biden stepped because they stepped forward, because they souiin-i— stepped forward, because they couldn't bear— stepped forward, because they couldn't bear another four years of couldn't bear another four years oi—ne- couldn't bear another four years oi—ne nel of trump. so therefore, he he sieppei— stepped forward. he won the eiesiion. — stepped forward. he won the eiesiion. -i- stepped forward. he won the election.-i think- stepped forward. he won the election. i think i'm election. and do i think i'm eireii— election. and do i think i'm afraid-trump- election. and do i think i'm afraid trump never afraid to say trump never

sienei— afraid to say trump never- sienei—irump started any wars? no. trump probably. happening in probably. what's happening in ukraine probably wouldn't be happening with trump the helm happening with trump at the helm because because he's in because he's because he's in putin's pocket. that would be why— putin's pocket. that would be why withdrawal— putin's pocket. that would be why withdrawal of— “ t that would be why withdrawal of afghanistan was why withdrawal of afghanistan l was-was-was-was. why withdrawal of afghanistan was was trump'sivas was. why withdrawal of afghanistan was was trump's was was. why withdrawal of afghanistan was was trump's was trump's trump was trump's was trump's iiee— trump was trump's was trump's iiee io— trump was trump's was trump's iiee io ine— trump was trump's was trump's idea to the letter— trump was trump's was trump's idea to the letter followed it to idea to the letter followed it is ine— idea to the letter followed it to the letter. _ idea to the letter followed it to the letter. there's nothing even wrong with— to the letter. there's nothing even wrong with withdrawing from inere. — even wrong with withdrawing from inere. lwes— even wrong with withdrawing from inere. lwes-is- even wrong with withdrawing from there. .was - it was - there. it was the way it was done. way that done. and there's no way that trump the one that was trump that was the one that was the joe biden the one thing that joe biden that joe biden that was on that joe biden did that was on doddie. you can do a job. you can be given a but was it can be given a job. but was it was trump's idea to do it was it was trump's idea to do it that in that that way it was that in that in that way it was absolutely all he did was absolutely it was all he did was follow from trump's mouth. he follow it from trump's mouth. he said that he did not he would not it that. not have done it like that. trump lies than has. trump lies more than he has. i've enough of biden. i'm i've had enough of biden. i'm sorry.— i've had enough of biden. i'm sorw.—biien| i've had enough of biden. i'm- sorry._biden time sorry. biden by name. biden time in oiiise— sorry. biden by name. biden time in oiiise. by— sorry. biden by name. biden time in office. by nature,— sorry. biden by name. biden time in office. by nature, it's time to in office. by nature, it's time is go. — in office. by nature, it's time is go. rm— in office. by nature, it's time to go. i'm seriously worried for his to go. i'm seriously worried for nis merin— to go. i'm seriously worried for his health. i'm— to go. i'm seriously worried for his health. i'm not— to go. i'm seriously worried for his health. i'm not being i'm noi— his health. i'm not being i'm noi egeisi.— his health. i'm not being i'm not ageist. anyone knows that iner— not ageist. anyone knows that one bers— not ageist. anyone knows that one ne-s noi. — not ageist. anyone knows that that he's not. well, you know , that he's not. well, you know, amerise— that he's not. well, you know, america deserves— that he's not. well, you know, america deserves someone dynamic and america deserves someone dynamic eni ei— america deserves someone dynamic eni ei ieesi— america deserves someone dynamic eni ei ieesi sen— america deserves someone dynamic and at least can answer guesiions— and at least can answer guesiions .— and at least can answer questions . this man, i'm sorry questions. this man, i'm sorry to questions. this man, i'm sorry io sey— questions. this man, i'm sorry io sey .— questions. this man, i'm sorry io sey . nes.— questions. this man, i'm sorry to say , has. what— questions. this man, i'm sorry to say , has. what about to say, has. what about

probiemss— to say, has. what about problems? he- to say, has. what about problems? he rambles misquote misguoies— problems? he rambles misquote misquotes can't— problems? he rambles misquote misquotes can't even walk up. wner— misquotes can't even walk up. wnei eboui— misquotes can't even walk up. what about kamala harris then? oh, what about kamala harris then? on. my— what about kamala harris then? on. my sou.— what about kamala harris then? oh, my god, kamala.— what about kamala harris then? oh, my god, kamala. she's- what about kamala harris then? oh, my god, kamala. she's she's. she's not great either. i mean, she's. they won't put her up anywhere because she just simply is embarrassing. she spends all her time laughing a little bit like me, but i just to have some common sense. but it has to be it common sense. but it has to be is nes— common sense. but it has to be is nes io— common sense. but it has to be is nes is be— common sense. but it has to be is nes is be e— common sense. but it has to be it has to be a democrat,- it has to be a democrat, besuse i— it has to be a democrat, because, i mean, even if you kook— because, i mean, even if you iooklyou— because, i mean, even if you iooklyou-on- because, i mean, even if youi look-you-on-other because, i mean, even if you. look-you-on-other if look at you look on the other if you— look at you look on the other if you-on— look at you look on the other if you-on the— look at you look on the other if you-on the other- look at you look on the other if you on the other side, you look on the other side, we — you look on the other side, we got— you look on the other side, you've got someone like ron mantis,— you've got someone like ron desantis, example, desantis, for example, who i know— desantis, for example, who i know people — desantis, for example, who i know people about, but then know people talk about, but then he-he— know people talk about, but then he-he banned— know people talk about, but then he he banned abortion know people talk about, but then he six he banned abortion know people talk about, but then he six weeks)anned abortion know people talk about, but then he six weeks this ad abortion know people talk about, but then he six weeks this week)rtion know people talk about, but then he six weeks this week in on after six weeks this week in a very— after six weeks this week in a very in— after six weeks this week in a very in e— after six weeks this week in a very re a very— after six weeks this week in a very in a very quiet way in herde— very in a very quiet way in florida, exception very in a very quiet way in. florida,-exception of florida, with the exception of vire— florida, with the exception of vim—repe- florida, with the exception of vim—rape er- with exception of rape or meet,— with exception of rape or. incest,_where incest, where where, where a has re— incest, where where, where a woman has to prove that she's been— woman has to prove that she's beer—re- woman has to prove that she's beer—re ger- woman has to prove that she's beer—re eer anl been raped in order to get an reorien— been raped in order to get an abortion-america- been raped in order to get an abortion. america of abortion. that is america of today— abortion. that is america of today-vire— abortion. that is america of today-with the- abortion. that is america of today with the with the today with with the with the were — today with with the with the were re — today with with the with the with the republicans. a with the republicans. wait a eeeere — with the republicans. wait a second. _that- with the republicans. wait a second. _that gotl with the republicans. wait a. second. _that got to second. what has that got to do with whether he's with joe biden and whether he's fit this country? well, fit to run this country? well, because because fit to run this country? well,i because because - desantis fit to run this country? well,- because because .desantis is because because ron desantis is perhaps— because because ron desantis is perhaps rhe— because because ron desantis is perhaps the person— because because ron desantis is perhaps the person who would go eppeer— perhaps the person who would go pepper-eur— perhaps the person who would go against-but-think- perhaps the person who would go against-but-think bidenl against it. but you think biden should was should keep going the way he was in that was so in ireland? that was so embarrassing. tans, embarrassing. black and tans, what know? black and what do you know? what black and tans yes. everybody makes tans mean? yes. everybody makes mrerevee—menyl

mistakes, right? oh, how many has hundreds. it's has he made? one. hundreds. it's like a grandpa mistake, though. he's 80, of course this is going to he's 80, of course this is going re—re-e— he's 80, of course this is going to_he's leading- he's 80, of course this is going| to_he's leading the to happen, but he's leading the free— to happen, but he's leading the free verve. — to happen, but he's leading the free world. yes,— to happen, but he's leading the free world. yes, i— to happen, but he's leading the free world. “in; free world. yes, i know. i know. and don't necessarily think and i don't necessarily think he should like i think should do i think like i think he would want. i think he is, you— he would want. i think he is, you knew,— he would want. i think he is, you know, lead— he would want. i think he is, you know, lead my- : i think he is, you know, lead my mom's knitting creep— you know, lead my mom's knitting eeeer ree— you know, lead my mom's knitting class. he's-homeless- class. he's he's homeless and rm — class. he's he's homeless and rm _weu- class. he's he's homeless andi r-m—veu-rr-e i'm sorry he's not well and it's emperreeerrp— i'm sorry he's not well and it's embarrassing papillae embarrassing. exactly. well, let's your thoughts let's see what your thoughts are, show are, because this show is nothing and your nothing without you and your views. let's welcome our great british voice, opportunity british voice, your opportunity to us to be on the show and tell us what about the topics what you think about the topics we're let's go we're discussing. let's go to lee there in lee harris. he's there in bristol lee shobe biden, bristol. all lee shobe biden, sleepy joe, which is what trump called him. trump was spot on with that. do you think ? with that. what do you think? i'm still laughing at sam, who eperr— i'm still laughing at sam, who spent ure— i'm still laughing at sam, who spent like ten— i'm still laughing at sam, who spent like ten minutes arguing and spent like ten minutes arguing ere—vire- spent like ten minutes arguing ere—vim yeul spent like ten minutes arguing. and _with you that and then agreeing with you that emer— and then agreeing with you that biden eeme— and then agreeing with you that biden could run— and then agreeing with you that biden could run again. i was rive.— biden could run again. i was like eeese-r— biden could run again. i was like, doesn't know— biden could run again. i was like, doesn't know that one, but that was good . i was genuinely that was good. i was genuinely ereeree. — that was good. i was genuinely shocked. nana— that was good. i was genuinely shocked. nana when i heard that he had him say that he was going to run again in 2024. in my view, he wasn't mentally fit to run in 2020. you know , this is run in 2020. you know, this is this is only my opinion, but a

couple of years before my granddad passed away, he was very similar to joe biden . i very similar to joe biden. i went through this, you know, very closely with my mum. um, you know, he quite often lose his train of thought and forget just things. it wasn't just little things. it wasn't overly just little things. it wasn't. every—mm, just little things. it wasn't- everry—rrrm, per overly embarrassing for him, but you overly embarrassing for him, but yep—rear— overly embarrassing for him, but yep—rear ree- you could notice that he'd sort of you could notice that he'd sort er-e— you could notice that he'd sort er-e ume— you could notice that he'd sort of-a little _thatl of forgotten a little thing that he of forgotten a little thing that removes;— of forgotten a little thing that pe-perrpleey- of forgotten a little thing that re-perrpleey. - of forgotten a little thing that he going say . r:i; of forgotten a little thing that. he-goinglsay. he would he was going to say. he would occasionally confused he was going to say. he would occa.ionally confused he was going to say. he would occa briefly confused he was going to say. he would occa brief moment confused he was going to say. he would occa brief moment while used he was going to say. he would occa brief moment while talking for a brief moment while talking and then veer off to a completely different subject midway sentence midway through a sentence without finishing his original point . and i've seen all of point. and i've seen all of these things in joe biden. like sam, i also have a really close interest in american politics. i watched all of the town hall debates that he did and anyone watching those town hall debates would have seen that they were beyond cringeworthy at points. he was all over the place . he he was all over the place. he couldn't conclude 90% of the points he was trying to make. and it was very sad to watch. and it was very sad to watch. and i did genuinely sorry and i did genuinely feel sorry for him. but honestly, agree for him. but honestly, i agree with well . i couldn't with lizzie as well. i couldn't care about his age. i'm care less about his age. i'm simply basing my opinion on competency and mental ability.

all we have to do is look at, like you said earlier, nana, all we have to do is look at his disastrous withdrawal from afghanistan a recent example afghanistan as a recent example of just being incompetent. there's , absolutely there's absolutely, absolutely no doubt that he's incompetent . no doubt that he's incompetent. he have good days and he appears to have good days and bad it's clear to bad days. but it's very clear to me personally that is nowhere me personally that he is nowhere near being mentally fit to be leader of the free world. and, you know, my take from all of this and actually this is a sam, a point that sorry, a point that sam made. sorry, is that joe biden doesn't look or act fit to be president. i think act fit to be president. i think a lot of people agree with that. the fact he's running in 2024 or plans to run in 2024. we're running out of time shows the disastrous. you're running out of time shows the disastrous . you're on a roll. disastrous. you're on a roll. rearr— disastrous. you're on a roll. prank you.— disastrous. you're on a roll. thank you. sorry.- r: you're on a roll. thank you. sorry. we agree with you— thank you. sorry. we agree with you we — thank you. sorry. we agree with you we ner— thank you. sorry. we agree with you 100. not taking any notes . you 100. not taking any notes. nane— you 100. not taking any notes. p... for— you 100. not taking any notes. nana for president.— you 100. not taking any notes. ya“? r::7“. well, you 100. not taking any notes. ya“? 2:7“. well, do nana for president. well, do a better job than— nana for president. well, do a better job than him _ nana for president. well, do a better job than him .- ya“? 2:7“. well, do a better job than him . listen, betterjob than him. listen, rearr— betterjob than him. listen, prank you— betterjob than him. listen, prank you very— betterjob than him. listen, thank you very . ' .r:;.«p thank you very. absolutely. rearr— thank you very. absolutely. prank you— thank you very. absolutely. prank you ee— thank you very. absolutely. thank you so much- thank you very. absolutely. thank you so much ,- thank you very. ' .r:;.«p thank you so much , lee. he's a thank you so much, lee. he's a peer— thank you so much, lee. he's a great errrrer— thank you so much, lee. he's a great british voice. _ thank you so much, lee. he's a great british voice. so, sarah, rep-r— great british voice. so, sarah, rep-r ree— great british voice. so, sarah, rep-r pee ree— great british voice. so, sarah, isn't he? he's there in bristol. reese— isn't he? he's there in bristol. rreee ere— isn't he? he's there in bristol. those are his— isn't he? he's there in bristol. those are his thoughts. what are yours— those are his thoughts. what are

yepre reeeye— those are his thoughts. what are yours today? i've— those are his thoughts. what are yours today? i've been asking ere— yours today? i've been asking and e— yours today? i've been asking and e-yeu— yours today? i've been asking and a-you have- yours today? i've been asking and a you have been and a lot of you have been peremp— and a lot of you have been getting-touch.- and a lot of you have been getting touch. fit? joe getting in touch. is he fit? joe emer— getting in touch. is he fit? joe ereerlreee— getting in touch. is he fit? joe biden-lead the— getting in touch. is he fit? joe biden lead the free world? biden to lead the free world? and— biden to lead the free world? and arden— biden to lead the free world? and aiden says— biden to lead the free world? and aiden says biden and aiden says joe biden is a disgrace,— and aiden says joe biden is a degree, pur— and aiden says joe biden is a disgrace, but we— and aiden says joe biden is a disgrace, but we do not want him his republicanism _ disgrace, but we do not want him his republicanism in northern disgrace, but we do not want him his rep or.icanism in northern disgrace, but we do not want him his rep or.icarrepublicanism.| ireland or his republicanism. andrew— ireland or his republicanism.| andrew—biden ireland or his republicanism.- andrew_biden is andrew says sleepy joe biden is definitely— andrew says sleepy joe biden is definitely-friend— andrew says sleepy joe biden is definitely friend the uk . definitely no friend of the uk. no definitely no friend of the uk. ne-er— definitely no friend of the uk. ne-er rhe— definitely no friend of the uk. no-on the car- definitely no friend of the uk. no on the car and black no uk flag on the car and black ere— no uk flag on the car and black and rep. — no uk flag on the car and black and rep. mix— no uk flag on the car and black and rep. mix up— no uk flag on the car and black and tan. mix up our inexcusable pree— and tan. mix up our inexcusable plus or— and tan. mix up our inexcusable plus or re— and tan. mix up our inexcusable plus on the special— plus on the special relationship. what benefits has rear— relationship. what benefits has that pepper— relationship. what benefits has that brought to _ relationship. what benefits has that brought to the uk? peter eeye— that brought to the uk? peter eeye emer— that brought to the uk? peter eeye preer re— that brought to the uk? peter says biden is the— that brought to the uk? peter says biden is the most useless preereerr— says biden is the most useless preereerr .— says biden is the most useless president i have— says biden is the most useless president i have seen. he is not fit president i have seen. he is not pp re— president i have seen. he is not pp re shep— president i have seen. he is not pp re epep rp— president i have seen. he is not fit to shop in the— president i have seen. he is not fit to shop in the local supermarket- fit to shop in the local supermarket his own , let supermarket on his own, let prere— supermarket on his own, let alone _world. - supermarket on his own, let alone world. also i've alone the free world. also i've got— alone the free world. also i've per re — alone the free world. also i've per re pru— alone the free world. also i've per re ppu pp— alone the free world. also i've got to pull ”p on_ alone the free world. also i've got to pull up on twitter right _we— got to pull up on twitter right rev-rm-rel got to pull up on twitter right. revv-mr-r-e yee now. currently i'm asking is joe emer— now. currently i'm asking is joe biden fir— now. currently i'm asking is joe biden pp re— now. currently i'm asking is joe biden fit to be— now. currently i'm asking is joe biden fit to be the— now. currently i'm asking is joe biden fit to be the leader of re— biden fit to be the leader of re free — biden fit to be the leader of the free world?— biden fit to be the leader of the free world? just 7.5% of you say— the free world? just 7.5% of you say yee,— the free world? just 7.5% of you say yee, vprer— the free world? just 7.5% of you say yes, which means 7.5% of the people— say yes, which means 7.5% of the peepre rpepprr— say yes, which means 7.5% of the people thought that he might be you.— people thought that he might be you. are — people thought that he might be yep. pre- rm— people thought that he might be you. bird. i'm one— people thought that he might be you. bird. i'm one of- people thought that he might be you. bird. r�* y you. bird. i'm one of those 7.5. you managed— you. bird. i'm one of those 7.5. you managed re,— you. bird. i'm one of those 7.5. you managed to, i— you. bird. i'm one of those 7.5. you managed to, i think- you. bird. r�* ly you managed to, i think sam did all you managed to, i think sam did an rhe— you managed to, i think sam did an rrre veree— you managed to, i think sam did all the votes right— you managed to, i think sam did all the votes right .— you managed to, i think sam did all the votes right . that's all the votes right. that's incredible. _ all the votes right. that's incredible. somebody actually reinve— incredible. somebody actually revere re— incredible. somebody actually revere he re— incredible. somebody actually thinks he is .— incredible. somebody actually thinks he is . well, thank you thinks he is. well, thank you for rear. — thinks he is. well, thank you for that. whilst— thinks he is. well, thank you for that. whilst a staggering 92.5— for that. whilst a staggering 92.5 or— for that. whilst a staggering 92.5 or you— for that. whilst a staggering 92.5 of you said— for that. whilst a staggering 92.5 of you said no, he absolutely— 92.5 of you said no, he absolutely is- 92.5 of you said no, he absolutely is not. there's no way— absolutely is not. there's no way-perpe— absolutely is not. there's no way-genre pe- absolutely is not. there's no way-genre pp . - absolutely is not. there's no way gonna go . right. way i'm gonna go. joe. right. veere— way i'm gonna go. joe. right. yep-re vire— way i'm gonna go. joe. right. you're with me.— way i'm gonna go. joe. right. you're with me. i'm— way i'm gonna go. right. you're with me. i'm nana akua. rere— you're with me. i'm nana akua. nee-neve— you're with me. i'm nana akua. rere-nevelrv- you're with me. i'm nana akua. this news tv online and

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duchess of york, sarah ferguson, vhhh— duchess of york, sarah ferguson, vhhh eree— duchess of york, sarah ferguson, vhhh eree-eur— duchess of york, sarah ferguson, will also .out .the - will also miss out on the occasion because hasn't will also miss out on the- occasion because-hasn't been occasion because she hasn't been hhvhree.— occasion because she hasn't been p.....d,_k.,.g- invited. meanwhile, the king hhrheeh— invited. meanwhile, the king himself attended the sovereign's parade,— himself attended the sovereign's pereee, hhe— himself attended the sovereign's parade, his first— himself attended the sovereign's parade, his first visit to the evehr— parade, his first visit to the event — parade, his first visit to the event since became the event since he became the monarch— event since he became the monarch-man- event since he became the monarch man who monarch and the man who errerhpree— monarch and the man who attempted to _ monarch and the man who attempted to egg in attempted to egg the king in verv— attempted to egg the king in york her— attempted to egg the king in york last year— attempted to egg the king in york last year was sentenced to 12 york last year was sentenced to he rhehrhe— york last year was sentenced to 12 months community service for his 12 months community service for hhe eerhehe— 12 months community service for his actions will— 12 months community service for his actions will be— 12 months community service for his actions will be better to eehve— his actions will be better to eehve hhre— his actions will be better to delve into all— his actions will be better to delve into all of— his actions will be better to delve into all of that than the hyph— delve into all of that than the rye-peere— delve into all of that than the royal jesus. enrique rosas royal rogue jesus. enrique rosas , ee re— royal rogue jesus. enrique rosas , ee he eee— royal rogue jesus. enrique rosas , as nice to see you— royal rogue jesus. enrique rosas , as nice to see you . well, so , as nice to see you. well, so hee— , as nice to see you. well, so he wher— , as nice to see you. well, so he vheh ee— , as nice to see you. well, so has what do you— , as nice to see you. well, so has what do you think? the news. hhee— has what do you think? the news. he he— has what do you think? the news. he he eee— has what do you think? the news. he he yep.— has what do you think? the news. nice to see you. so— has what do you think? the news. nice to see you. so what do you hhhhh— nice to see you. so what do you hhhhh er— nice to see you. so what do you hhhhh er hhe— nice to see you. so what do you think of the news?— nice to see you. so what do you think of the news? meghan herhhee— think of the news? meghan markle? she's— think of the news? meghan markle? she's not attending king cherhee— markle? she's not attending king cherhee hhe— markle? she's not attending king charles the third's_ markle? she's not attending king charles the third's coronation. heeee— charles the third's coronation. heeee hh— charles the third's coronation. does it surprise— charles the third's coronation. does it surprise you at all? veh— does it surprise you at all? hep, hh— does it surprise you at all? well, it quite— does it surprise you at all? well, it quite surprised me heeeuee— well, it quite surprised me heeeuee hh— well, it quite surprised me because it is— well, it quite surprised me because it is the source of the eehhheh — because it is the source of the coronation. the— because it is the source of the coronation. the royal family, the monarchy. it's still the source of whatever- 2 it's still the source of whatever attention can ehehheh— source of whatever attention can hepheh bring— source of whatever attention can hepheh hrhhp he— source of whatever attention can meghan bring to the table. and here. — meghan bring to the table. and here. here— meghan bring to the table. and that's. that's basically her economy. that's- that's. that's basically her economy. that's. that's basically her- economy. that's why that's her business. so it means a lot that eeehhp— business. so it means a lot that we're seeing that— business. so it means a lot that we're seeing that she— so it means a lot that we're seeing that she really did not we're seeing that she really did heh hhhe— we're seeing that she really did heh hhhe he— we're seeing that she really did not like to be— we're seeing that she really did not like to be seated on the ehehh— not like to be seated on the ehvhh — not like to be seated on the sixth row. we—

not like to be seated on the sixth row. �*vvh�*h: "r: sixth row. we know where these negotiations that harry and meghan were trying to do with buckingham palace, among them, having some kind of meeting for an apology that was never going to happen. and once they began to happen. and once they began to once they knew the seating arrangements that meghan was going to be seated, well , not going to be seated, well, not not even in the second row, i think she she was just not into it. it was not good for her brand. no not for her. you know, her strong woman narrative. and this just forfeiting the coronation means that she is even more afraid of being ridiculed in this way than she's afraid of her bosses at netflix and spotify because, you know , and spotify because, you know, that this these guys must be fuming this this corporations , fuming this this corporations, this enterprises must be fuming because that's that's the cloud that meghan brings. thanks to the royal family. her links to the royal family. her links to the royal family. so she if she's for fighting that if she's

not appearing publicly in the coronation, i think that really baffled me then it must be because she is absolutely arnie worried of being not only booed, but but also having those cameras from all these channels , just filming her and having all that footage on her on six row for the rest of eternity . row for the rest of eternity. well, she will she be booed? vveuhhh-h— well, she will she be booed? wouldn't she?— well, she will she be booed? wouldn't she? and the public, hhey— wouldn't she? and the public, hhey vee— wouldn't she? and the public, they were divided into two heehere— they were divided into two factors. the— they were divided into two factors. the ones that claim hheh— factors. the ones that claim that buckingham palace blocked ehehheh—whe- that buckingham palace blocked. meghan _who claimed meghan and the ones who claimed that meghan and the ones who claimed hheh—he— meghan and the ones who claimed hheh—he pe. - meghan and the ones who claimed hheh—he pe. hevl that she decided not to go. now, i that she decided not to go. now, h-reh— that she decided not to go. now, h-rehlreyeh- i know you ran a royal poll. heu— i know you ran a royal poll. hehh rhe— i know you ran a royal poll. hehh he e— i know you ran a royal poll. tell me a bit— i know you ran a royal poll. tell me a bit about that . yes tell me a bit about that. yes he— tell me a bit about that. yes he vhehher— tell me a bit about that. yes it's whether you _ tell me a bit about that. yes it's whether you like meghan or note— it's whether you like meghan or heh, vhehher— it's whether you like meghan or not, whether you're a royalist or not, whether you're a royalist er yep— not, whether you're a royalist or you are a markle's fan, it hee— or you are a markle's fan, it hee he— or you are a markle's fan, it has to factions— or you are a markle's fan, it has to factions effectively, hheee— has to factions effectively, hheee vhe — has to factions effectively, those who think that buckingham reheee— those who think that buckingham palace blocked— those who think that buckingham palace blocked meghan for going and hheee— palace blocked meghan for going and those who— palace blocked meghan for going and those who claimed that ehehheh— and those who claimed that meghan decided not to go. ' “2 meghan decided not to go. and it's meghan decided not to go. and he e— meghan decided not to go. and he e ph— meghan decided not to go. and he e hhh er— meghan decided not to go. and it's a bit of both.— meghan decided not to go. and it's a bit of both. it's— meghan decided not to go. and

it's a bit of both. it's like a buckingham palace decided not to conceal , not to sit to any conceal, not to sit to any negotiations. they did not negotiate anything. so meghan in fact decided that she was for fighting that. so it's not like meghan did a bold or courageous move. it'sjust meghan did a bold or courageous move. it's just like she was a it was so afraid of being ridiculed that that's why she is not going. and but the part of people that are royalists, that are fans of the monarchy that want to think it was buckingham palace who blocked meghan from going . there's this going. there's this misconception because from a strategic standpoint and human behaviour for buckingham palace has nothing to gain from blocking. meghan in the first place because in in one hand it's like giving her too much importance, okay? like we are going to block you because you are so powerful that you will effectively steal the spotlight. that doesn't make sense. and at

the same time, that will give meghan more power. how are you? she's a big arm. she was blocked for . i'm she's a big arm. she was blocked for. i'm going to the coronation, so i don't think that anybody at buckingham palace thought that could have been a good idea . i was been a good idea. i was surprised that tom harwood came forward and claimed that allegedly catherine was instrumental in blocking meghan markle i. i respect tom bower's work. of course , but i politely work. of course, but i politely disagree with his with his insights because that that would not make any sense. that would be giving meghan more power. and i don't think anybody in the royal family wants that. well she'd use it. what about- t well she'd use it. what about king cherheee— she'd use it. what about king cherheeelyeu— she'd use it. what about king charles? you think he's charles? do you think he's eehhhe— charles? do you think he's settling-role?- charles? do you think he's settling-role? it settling into his role? does it heee— settling into his role? does it heee-hhe— settling into his role? does it does-like he's- settling into his role? does it does like he's doing does he look like he's doing a peer— does he look like he's doing a peep job?— does he look like he's doing a peep job? h— does he look like he's doing a good job? i think— does he look like he's doing a good job? i think he's he's eehe— good job? i think he's he's eehhp ehehh— good job? i think he's he's eehhp preeh. — good job? i think he's he's doing great. ' 2 good job? i think he's he's doing great. “2 2 good job? i think he's he's doing great. ' “2 2 doing great. and besides the fact that all these headlines i

was talking about on some headunes was talking about on some headlines this morning on on twitter that are trying to make it seem like he's us he has this special his focus on that connection and harry and no his focus on that on the coronation as as an event something that is not personal something that is not personal something that is not about family but something thatis not about family but something that is something that is beyond every single one of us is the british monarchy. and it's it will be certainly the most important event in decades . so important event in decades. so there is no place there are moments for family. there are moments for family. there are moments for family. there are moments for his relationship with harry. but so many outlets now claim that he he is like he is focussed on harry, too. it's because that it's just a public relations trying to make it an make it a family affair. when it is not. well listen, this is very— is not. well listen, this is very rphhhhp— is not. well listen, this is very running out- well listen, this is very running out of time, but he— very running out of time, but he ehveye— very running out of time, but it's always good— very running out of time, but it's always good to talk to you maybe— it's always good to talk to you maybe-coronation- it's always good to talk to you maybe coronation because maybe on the coronation because i'll maybe on the coronation because h-hh-he— maybe on the coronation because i'll-to buckingham- i'll be going to buckingham hheee.— i'll be going to buckingham hheee-yep- i'll be going to buckingham palace. you could be on palace. maybe you could be on the palace. maybe you could be on hhe ehev— palace. maybe you could be on the show-that— palace. maybe you could be on the show-that-i'd- palace. maybe you could be on the show that i'd love the show on that day. i'd love to

the show on that day. i'd love he-yeu— the show on that day. i'd love he-yeu eh— the show on that day. i'd love to-you on. that'd- the show on that day. i'd love to you on. that'd be great to get you on. that'd be great if to get you on. that'd be great hr yep— to get you on. that'd be great hr yep eeh— to get you on. that'd be great hr yep h— to get you on. that'd be great if you can. if you're around. heh,— if you can. if you're around. we. r— if you can. if you're around. we. r vhhh— if you can. if you're around. well, i will be— if you can. if you're around. well, i will be |_ if you can. if you're around. well, i will be i will be doing a well, i will be i will be doing e hhve— well, i will be i will be doing e hhve eh— well, i will be i will be doing e hhve eh rhy— well, i will be i will be doing a live on my channel. �*" a live on my channel. but if we hh— a live on my channel. but if we can fit some time, i will be glad. yeah, can fit some time, i will be glad . yeah, wonderful. thank you glad. yeah, wonderful. thank you so glad. yeah, wonderful. thank you ee much.— glad. yeah, wonderful. thank you ee hueh. hevehy— glad. yeah, wonderful. thank you so much. lovely to— 3.32 yeah, wonderful. thank you so much. lovely to talk to you. peere— so much. lovely to talk to you. yeee hhrhppe— so much. lovely to talk to you. jesus, enrique rosas. he is the eye— jesus, enrique rosas. he is the reyeh repre— jesus, enrique rosas. he is the royal rogue. this— jesus, enrique rosas. he is the royal rogue. this is gb news. here— royal rogue. this is gb news. here he— royal rogue. this is gb news. here he ee— royal rogue. this is gb news. more to come in— royal rogue. this is gb news. more to come in the next hour . more to come in the next hour. vveheehuh. — more to come in the next hour. wonderful. i'm— more to come in the next hour. wonderful. i'm so— more to come in the next hour. wonderful. i'm so excited for hhe— wonderful. i'm so excited for the coronation.— wonderful. i'm so excited for the coronation. this is gb news. h-rh — the coronation. this is gb news. h-rh nehe— the coronation. this is gb news. h-rh hehe akua.— the coronation. this is gb news. i'm nana akua. we're live on tv, ehhhe— i'm nana akua. we're live on tv, ehhhhe ehe— i'm nana akua. we're live on tv, ehhhhe ehe eh— i'm nana akua. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio for the online and on digital radio for hhe hevh— online and on digital radio for the next hour.— online and on digital radio for the next hour. me— online and on digital radio for the next hour. me and my panel vhhh— the next hour. me and my panel vhhh he— the next hour. me and my panel vhhh he hehhhe— the next hour. me and my panel will be taking on— the next hour. me and my panel will be taking on some of the big will be taking on some of the he hephee— will be taking on some of the big topics hitting— will be taking on some of the big topics hitting the headlines rhehh— big topics hitting the headlines heh—up.- big topics hitting the headlines rhphh—up. rhy- right now. coming up. my ehhheh— right now. coming up. my difficult conversation today is vhhh — difficult conversation today is vhhh hhree — difficult conversation today is with three uk— difficult conversation today is with three uk residents who , with three uk residents who, ether— with three uk residents who, erher eehhhe— with three uk residents who, after getting fed up of the nhs vehhhhe— after getting fed up of the nhs vehhhhp hhehe— after getting fed up of the nhs waiting lists and— after getting fed up of the nhs waiting lists and the high cost of waiting lists and the high cost er prhvehe— waiting lists and the high cost of private healthcare, they went ahead— of private healthcare, they went abroad _operations- of private healthcare, they went abroad operations . abroad for their operations. vhe-hh— abroad for their operations. vve-hh-ehh— abroad for their operations. we'll-all-theirl we'll talk all about their experiences— we'll talk all about their experiences whether they'd experiences and whether they'd i recommend—then recommend medical tourism. then for recommend medical tourism. then rerhhe— recommend medical tourism. then her hhe ehehh— recommend medical tourism. then for the great british— recommend medical tourism. then for the great british debate hhhe— for the great british debate hhhe heee— for the great british debate this hour, i'll— for the great british debate this hour, i'll be asking are hhe— this hour, i'll be asking are the-members- this hour, i'll be asking are the members being greedy?

the rcn members being greedy? the the rcn members being greedy? hhe ee— the rcn members being greedy? the nurses from _ the rcn members being greedy? the nurses from the college have vehee— the nurses from the college have veheh ehehheh— the nurses from the college have vehee eehhheh e— the nurses from the college have voted against a 5%_ the nurses from the college have voted against a 5% pay rise ehereh— voted against a 5% pay rise ehereh hy— voted against a 5% pay rise offered by the _ voted against a 5% pay rise offered by the government heehhhhp— offered by the government heehhhhe he— offered by the government deciding to continue with ehrhhee— deciding to continue with strikes instead. are they are hhey— strikes instead. are they are hhey heh— strikes instead. are they are they just simply being greedy vhhh— they just simply being greedy vhhh hhehr— they just simply being greedy with their demands from the peverhrhehh— with their demands from the government first, let's government? but first, let's get yeer— government? but first, let's get your—headlines- government? but first, let's get your_ headlines .- your latest news headlines. here. — your latest news headlines. nana. thank— your latest news headlines. nana. thank you. - your latest news headlines. nana. it's 5:01. i'm nana. thank you. it's 5:01. i'm hehhehe— nana. thank you. it's 5:01. i'm tatiana sanchez— nana. thank you. it's 5:01. i'm tatiana sanchez . _ nana. thank you. it's 5:01. i'm tatiana sanchez . in- nana. thank you. it's 5:01. i'm tatiana sanchez . in the- nana. it's 5:01. i'm tatiana sanchez . “ c'fy tatiana sanchez. in the gb newsroom, the government's under pressure to prevent the most extreme nurses strike. yet after the latest pay offer was rejected, members from the rcn voted against the 5% pay rise, meaning nhs nurses in emergency departments , intensive care and departments, intensive care and cancer wards will take industrial action for the first time. the 48 hour walkout will start on the 30th of april, but 74% of unison members voted to accept the same offer . the accept the same offer. the shadow business secretary , john shadow business secretary, john reynolds, says labour would aboush reynolds, says labour would abolish the non—dom status to help ease the nhs crisis. i'd say what we can tell from what

we've seen yesterday is first of all a resolution is relatively close. ithink all a resolution is relatively close. i think the government ehehhe— close. i think the government eheuhh heve— f i think the government should have negotiated sooner. hhe— should have negotiated sooner. hhe eevveh — should have negotiated sooner. the shows. this— should have negotiated sooner. the shows. this was always resolvable.— the shows. this was always resolvable. this— the shows. this was always resolvable. this has always been us resolvable. this has always been hrs—huh— resolvable. this has always been hrs—huh hh-e— resolvable. this has always been us_but it's also- resolvable. this has always been us but it's also been us about pay, but it's also been ehehh— us about pay, but it's also been about-burden,— us about pay, but it's also been about-burden, the- us about pay, but it's also been about burden, the workload about the burden, the workload hhe— about the burden, the workload hhe-hheee— about the burden, the workload nhs-under. and- about the burden, the workload nhs-under. and if- about the burden, the workload nhs under. and if you nhs staff are under. and if you hhhe— nhs staff are under. and if you hehe eur— nhs staff are under. and if you hehe pheh— nhs staff are under. and if you take our plan, which is to ehehheh— take our plan, which is to abolish the— take our plan, which is to abolish the non—dom super tax regime— abolish the non—dom super tax reehrhe rer— abolish the non—dom super tax rephrhe her very— abolish the non—dom super tax regime for very wealthy people, use regime for very wealthy people, hheh— regime for very wealthy people, use that revenue— regime for very wealthy people, use that revenue over £3 billion to use that revenue over £3 billion he expehh— use that revenue over £3 billion he evpehh hhe— use that revenue over £3 billion to expand the nhs— use that revenue over £3 billion to expand the nhs workforce, yee— to expand the nhs workforce, ye phvhhe— to expand the nhs workforce, you're giving people some hope hheh— you're giving people some hope hheh-hhe— you're giving people some hope that-the pressures- that some of the pressures hhey-re— that some of the pressures they're _future - that some of the pressures they're future are they're under in future are going— they're under in future are eehhe—ehei going to be resolved, and i hhhhh— going to be resolved, and i hhhhh-ehh— going to be resolved, and ii think-all-ever think that's all they've ever eeheh— think that's all they've ever eeheh heh — think that's all they've ever asked from government . asked from the government. the eheeev— asked from the government. the eheeev erhee— asked from the government. the shadow armed forces— asked from the government. the shadow armed forces minister has told gb news a blind eye is being turned to predators around parliament. luke pollard has described westminster as the most unprofessional workplace he's encountered. speaking to gloria de piero, the mp who recently announced he'll step back from politics, says victims of abuse and bullying are repeatedly being let down. i still don't think westminster is a still don't think westminster is e eere— still don't think westminster is e eere pheee— still don't think westminster is e eere pheee he— still don't think westminster is a safe place to work, especially for a safe place to work, especially her many— a safe place to work, especially her many er— a safe place to work, especially for many of the— a safe place to work, especially for many of the young members of ehehh— for many of the young members of eheh. hhe— for many of the young members of eheh. hhe hhhe— for many of the young members of staff. the mps employ and we knew—

staff. the mps employ and we knew hheh— staff. the mps employ and we know that there _ staff. the mps employ and we know that there are predators eruehh— know that there are predators around westminster that are eerhehhrhee— around westminster that are sometimes allowed to continue or a sometimes allowed to continue or e hhhe— sometimes allowed to continue or e hhhe eye— sometimes allowed to continue or a blind eye turned— sometimes allowed to continue or a blind eye turned and i want to see a blind eye turned and i want to hheh— a blind eye turned and i want to see that changed— a blind eye turned and i want to see that changed because i think vveehrhhheher— see that changed because i think westminster should embody the very— westminster should embody the very heeh— westminster should embody the very heeh er— westminster should embody the very best of our— westminster should embody the very best of our country. it ehehhe— very best of our country. it eheuhh he— very best of our country. it should be a— very best of our country. it should be a place that people eephre— should be a place that people eephre he— should be a place that people eephre he eeh— should be a place that people aspire to get elected to and her— aspire to get elected to and her vhhh— aspire to get elected to and then want to _ aspire to get elected to and then want to change the world heh — then want to change the world heh e— then want to change the world from a position— then want to change the world from a position of— then want to change the world from a position of strength. and i'm from a position of strength. and h-rh ehehh— from a position of strength. and i'm afraid that— from a position of strength. and i'm afraid that-the- from a position of strength. and i'm afraid that the moment i i'm afraid that at the moment i eerhehhrhee— i'm afraid that at the moment i sometimes feel— i'm afraid that at the moment i sometimes feel westminster lets the sometimes feel westminster lets hhe—eehhhry- sometimes feel westminster lets the—country down. - the rest of the country down. reu— the rest of the country down. veu eeh— the rest of the country down. you can watch— the rest of the country down. you can watch that full hhhervhev— you can watch that full interview with the shadow armed rereee— interview with the shadow armed forces minister— interview with the shadow armed forces minister luke pollard on ehehhe— forces minister luke pollard on eherhe heehe— forces minister luke pollard on gloria meets tomorrow at 6 pm. hhee— gloria meets tomorrow at 6 pm. hhree peephe— gloria meets tomorrow at 6 pm. three people have— gloria meets tomorrow at 6 pm. three people have been- gloria meets tomorrow at 6 pm. three people have been arrested on suspicion of conspiracy to cause public nuisance ahead of the grand national . hundreds of the grand national. hundreds of activists will try to prevent the race from taking place by attaching to fences attaching themselves to fences along the course at aintree , the along the course at aintree, the animal rising campaign group says it's to highlight the broken relationship between humans, animals and the natural world. 60 horses have died at the grand national festival since 2000, and police say they have a robust plan in place to

prevent disruption . prevent disruption. demonstrators have gathered in london's trafalgar square to protest best against the expansion of the ultra low emission zone. if it goes ahead, drivers in outer london will have to pay £12.50 a day if their vehicles don't meet emission standards. five conservative led councils have launched legal action against the plans. but the mayor of london's office calls the challenge costly and misguided and argues the proposal is life saving . ukrainian officials say saving. ukrainian officials say its forces are finding more components from russia, from china, in russian weapons used in the war. china has repeatedly denied sending military equipment to russia since moscow's invasion in february last year. however, leaked us military documents claim beijing has approved the provision of lethal aid to russia, but wants its shipments to remain a secret. china as defence minister, is scheduled to arrive in russia tomorrow for a four day visit . around a quarter of

day visit. around a quarter of young people are living in poor quality housing, according to the latest research think tank. the resolution foundation says 26% of 18 to 24 year olds live in damp buildings without electricity, heating or plumbing . the company also found that those living in such conditions are twice as likely to experience ill health. the scottish government is considering drafting in the army as a replacement for a key highland ferry service. the ship that normally makes the five minute crossing of loch linnhe broke down last friday, leading to a 42 mile diversion on it normally carries more than 270,000 cars a year. a foot passenger service is operating twice a day . this is gb news. twice a day. this is gb news. we'll bring you more news as it happens. now it's back to nana akua.

thank you, tatiana . it's just thank you, tatiana. it's just coming up thank you, tatiana. it's just eehhhp up he— thank you, tatiana. it's just coming up to six— it's just coming up to six minutes after shoo- — coming up to six minutes after shoo- hhhe— coming up to six minutes after shoo- hhhe he— coming up to six minutes after 5:00. this is gb— coming up to six minutes after 5:00. this is gb news on tv, ehhhe— 5:00. this is gb news on tv, ehhhhe ehe— 5:00. this is gb news on tv, online and on— 5:00. this is gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nehe— online and on digital radio. i'm here ehee.— online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua. and— online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua. and for the next heeh— nana akua. and for the next here he— nana akua. and for the next here he ehe— nana akua. and for the next hour, me and my panel will be hehhhe— hour, me and my panel will be hehhhe eh— hour, me and my panel will be taking on some— hour, me and my panel will be taking on some of— hour, me and my panel will be taking on some of the big topics hhhhhhe— taking on some of the big topics hhhhhhe hhe— taking on some of the big topics hitting the headlines right now. hhhe— hitting the headlines right now. hhhe ehev— hitting the headlines right now. hhhe ehev he— hitting the headlines right now. this show is all— hitting the headlines right now. this show is all about opinion. hh-e— this show is all about opinion. hh-e-hh-e— this show is all about opinion. it's-it's theirs.- this show is all about opinion. it's-it's theirs-of. it's mine, it's theirs. and of eehhee—heel course, it's yours. we'll be eehehhe— course, it's yours. we'll be debating, discussing at times we will debating, discussing at times we vhhh hheeeree— debating, discussing at times we will disagree. but— debating, discussing at times we will disagree. but no one will be will disagree. but no one will hee—se— will disagree. but no one will hee—se hehhhhp- will disagree. but no one will be_so joining mei be cancelled. so joining me hehey— be cancelled. so joining me heeey he— be cancelled. so joining me today is broadcast from columnist— today is broadcast from columnist lizzie cundy and also hreeheeeh— columnist lizzie cundy and also broadcast with— columnist lizzie cundy and also broadcast with political commentator sam dowler . still to commentator sam dowler. still to hh rhy— commentator sam dowler. still to come in my difficult conversation, three uk residents vhe— conversation, three uk residents vhe ere— conversation, three uk residents vhe eehhhe— conversation, three uk residents who are getting fed up of nhs vehhhhe— who are getting fed up of nhs vehhhhp hhehe— who are getting fed up of nhs waiting lists and— who are getting fed up of nhs waiting lists and have and the hhph— waiting lists and have and the high eeeh— waiting lists and have and the hhph eeeh er— waiting lists and have and the high cost of private healthcare . hhey— high cost of private healthcare . hhey vehh— high cost of private healthcare . they went abroad their . they went abroad for their eperehhehe— . they went abroad for their eperehhehe .— . they went abroad for their operations . are— . they went abroad for their operations . are we talking about operations. are we talking about her— operations. are we talking about their experiences— operations. are we talking about their experiences whether their experiences and whether hhey-e— their experiences and whether- hhey-e—heurheh they'd recommend medical tourism hheh— they'd recommend medical tourism her her— they'd recommend medical tourism her her hhe— they'd recommend medical tourism then for the great— they'd recommend medical tourism then for the great british eehhhe— then for the great british debate-hour,- then for the great british debate hour, i'm asking are debate this hour, i'm asking are the debate this hour, i'm asking are hhe-eehhee— debate this hour, i'm asking are the-college of— debate this hour, i'm asking are the college of nurses, are the royal college of nurses, are hhey—hureee- the royal college of nurses, are they_ nurses from they being greedy? nurses from they being greedy? nurses from hhe-veheh— they being greedy? nurses from the-voted against- they being greedy? nurses from the voted against the 5% pay the rcn voted against the 5% pay rise the rcn voted against the 5% pay ehereh— the rcn voted against the 5% pay ehereh hy— the rcn voted against the 5% pay rise offered by the— the rcn voted against the 5% pay rise offered by the government . rise offered by the government. they— rise offered by the government. hhey eeehhee— rise offered by the government. they decided to— rise offered by the government. they decided to continue with the they decided to continue with hhe ehrhhee— they decided to continue with the strikes instead. but it heehe-hhe- the strikes instead. but it

means the nhs nurses in means that the nhs nurses in emergency— means that the nhs nurses in emergency departments intensive ehh— emergency departments intensive care and cancer wards will take hheuehrheh— care and cancer wards will take industrial action— care and cancer wards will take industrial action for the first hhhe. — industrial action for the first hhhe. vhhh— industrial action for the first time. with the— industrial action for the first time. with the 48 hour walkout ehehhe— time. with the 48 hour walkout eherhhhe eh— time. with the 48 hour walkout eherhhhp eh hhe— time. with the 48 hour walkout starting on the 30th of april. ahe— starting on the 30th of april. ahe hheh— starting on the 30th of april. and that comes— starting on the 30th of april. and that comes after members of uhheeh— and that comes after members of uhheeh-uhheh— and that comes after members of unison-union which- unison another union which repreeehhe— unison another union which represents some— unison another union which represents some nurses and ehehhehee— represents some nurses and ambulance crews, voted to accept the government's— ambulance crews, voted to accept the government's pay deal. so hhh— the government's pay deal. so h-rh eehhhe— the government's pay deal. so h-rh eehhhp ere— the government's pay deal. so i'm asking, are the rcn members eehhe— i'm asking, are the rcn members hehhp preeeye— i'm asking, are the rcn members being greedy? that's on the way in being greedy? that's on the way hh hhe— being greedy? that's on the way hh hhe heeh— being greedy? that's on the way in the next hour.— being greedy? that's on the way in the next hour. as ever, tell he— in the next hour. as ever, tell he vhhh— in the next hour. as ever, tell he vheh yep— in the next hour. as ever, tell me what you think on everything we're discussing.— me what you think on everything we're discussing. email gbviews@gbnews.uk or tweet me at . gb gbviews@gbnews.uk or tweet me at . eh neve— gbviews@gbnews.uk or tweet me at . eh heve. eh— gbviews@gbnews.uk or tweet me at . gb news. oh nice— gbviews@gbnews.uk or tweet me at . gb news. oh nice cup of tea hhee— . gb news. oh nice cup of tea hhere. hhehh— . gb news. oh nice cup of tea there. right. it's— . gb news. oh nice cup of tea there. right. it's now time for ehhheh— there. right. it's now time for difficult conversation because hhe — difficult conversation because hhe hhe— difficult conversation because once the nhs was the envy of the vehh— once the nhs was the envy of the verhh ehh— once the nhs was the envy of the verhh and many— once the nhs was the envy of the world and many would say that our world and many would say that hhe— world and many would say that hhs he— world and many would say that hhs he he— world and many would say that our nhs is no longer fit for pprpeee— our nhs is no longer fit for pprpeee .— our nhs is no longer fit for purpose . waiting lists are at an purpose. waiting lists are at an all purpose. waiting lists are at an ehh hhhe— purpose. waiting lists are at an ehh hhhe hhph— purpose. waiting lists are at an all time high, with more than 7 hhhhheh— all time high, with more than 7 hhhhheh peephe— all time high, with more than 7 million people in— all time high, with more than 7 million people in england vehhhhe— million people in england vehhhhp he— million people in england waiting to start routine heephheh— waiting to start routine hospital treatment at the end of rehruery. — hospital treatment at the end of rehruery. ahe— hospital treatment at the end of february. and the— hospital treatment at the end of february. and the long wait lead to february. and the long wait lead he eeepehr— february. and the long wait lead he eeepehr ee— february. and the long wait lead to despair as people suffer in

pehh— to despair as people suffer in pehh vhhh— to despair as people suffer in pain with health— to despair as people suffer in pain with health problems. but for pain with health problems. but her prhvehe— pain with health problems. but for private care— pain with health problems. but for private care out of reach her— for private care out of reach her many— for private care out of reach her many hue— for private care out of reach for many due to— for private care out of reach for many due to the hefty price tag ,— for many due to the hefty price hee , ur— for many due to the hefty price tag , uk residents— for many due to the hefty price tag, uk residents are increasingly- tag, uk residents are increasingly heading abroad to eeuhhrhee— increasingly heading abroad to countries like— increasingly heading abroad to countries like lithuania to have her— countries like lithuania to have their ailments— countries like lithuania to have their ailments treated . however, their ailments treated. however, heephhe— their ailments treated. however, heephhe hhe — their ailments treated. however, despite the nhs— their ailments treated. however, despite the nhs offering full reimbursements for those these eehh— reimbursements for those these eerh er— reimbursements for those these sort of operations— reimbursements for those these sort of operations where people do sort of operations where people he hhhe— sort of operations where people he hhhe ,— sort of operations where people he hhhe , ee— sort of operations where people do this , some people still do this, some people still heveh-h— do this, some people still haven't been— do this, some people still haven't been paid yet. so for my hhhhehhh— haven't been paid yet. so for my difficult conversation , i'm difficult conversation, i'm going— difficult conversation, i'm pehhp he— difficult conversation, i'm pehhp he epeeh— difficult conversation, i'm going to speak to people going to speak to three people vhe— going to speak to three people vhe-heh— going to speak to three people who-had things- going to speak to three people who had things done and who have had things done and hhve— who have had things done and have heh— who have had things done and have not been— who have had things done and have not been paid . let's have have not been paid. let's have a eheh— have not been paid. let's have a eheh. yehheh— have not been paid. let's have a eheh. yehheh hy— have not been paid. let's have a chat. joined by stephen vvhhhherhe— chat. joined by stephen williams, dom thomas and marina seek.— williams, dom thomas and marina eheeh. hhehh— williams, dom thomas and marina eheeh. hhehh yep— williams, dom thomas and marina stock. thank you much for stock. thank you so much for hehhhhh— stock. thank you so much for joining rhe— stock. thank you so much for joining hhey.— stock. thank you so much for joining me. okay. so i'm going to joining me. okay. so i'm going he ehehh— joining me. okay. so i'm going he eherh vhhh— joining me. okay. so i'm going to start with stephen. stephen, hhehh— to start with stephen. stephen, hhehh yep— to start with stephen. stephen, hhehh yep very— to start with stephen. stephen, thank you very much. stephen, hhh— thank you very much. stephen, hehhlhe— thank you very much. stephen, talk-me about— thank you very much. stephen, talk me about about what talk to me about about what heppeheh— talk to me about about what heppeheh he— talk to me about about what heppeheh he yep— talk to me about about what happened to you . i mean, happened to you. i mean, ehvheuehy— happened to you. i mean, obviously, don't go into too heeh— obviously, don't go into too much detail.— obviously, don't go into too much detail. don't graphic much detail. don't don't graphic hehehh—hheh- much detail. don't don't graphic detail,_ just tell. detail, stephen, but just tell us detail, stephen, but just tell he vheh— detail, stephen, but just tell us what what— detail, stephen, but just tell us what what what happened to yeer— us what what what happened to yehe vheh— us what what what happened to yehe vvheh vee— us what what what happened to you? what were you promised? and vheh—hhe— you? what were you promised? and vheh—hhe ehhe- you? what were you promised? and what—the end? what. you? what were you promised? and wha it the end? what you? what were you promised? and wha it like the end? what you? what were you promised? and wha it like going the end? what you? what were you promised? and wha it like going abroadid? what you? what were you promised? and wha it like going abroad ? what you? what were you promised? and wha it like going abroad ? t was it like going abroad? um, vehh— was it like going abroad? um, vehh. hh— was it like going abroad? um, vehh. hh vee— was it like going abroad? um, well, it was very— was it like going abroad? um, well, it was very i— was it like going abroad? um, well, it was very i was- was it like going abroad? um, well, it was very i was very nervous at the beginning to travel out . it was , um, travel out. it was, um, eerhehhhee—

it was, um, sometimes difficult for me to hhhe— sometimes difficult for me to make hhe— sometimes difficult for me to make the decision. f make the decision. but once i was there and i was in the clinic, what i could see it was second and none treatment. i was treated . what can i say? iwas treated . what can i say? ba.2 treated. what can i say? ba.2 heeheehhy— treated. what can i say? ba.2 basically like— treated. what can i say? ba.2 basically like a— treated. what can i say? ba.2 basically like a god. that's the ehhy— basically like a god. that's the ehhy vey— basically like a god. that's the ehhy vey h— basically like a god. that's the ehhy vey h eeh— basically like a god. that's the only way i can explain it. basically like a god. that's the only way i can explain it . only way i can explain it. wow. hheh-e— only way i can explain it. wow. hheh-e heeh.— only way i can explain it. wow. hhhe-e heeh. se— only way i can explain it. wow. that's good. so where did you 90, that's good. so where did you go, stephen? where did you go? and can you say what it was that you got treated for? because there might be others listening, being for a full left being treated for a full left hip replacement clinica in hip replacement at clinica in lithuania, kaunas, lithuania . lithuania, kaunas, lithuania. and it was the clinic was eheehhhehy— and it was the clinic was absolutely spot . plus the people absolutely spot. plus the people here— absolutely spot. plus the people here ,— absolutely spot. plus the people here , hhe— absolutely spot. plus the people there , the whole— absolutely spot. plus the people there , the whole staff of there, the whole staff of chhhhee— there, the whole staff of clinica were _ there, the whole staff of clinica were absolutely outstanding— clinica were absolutely outstanding from the beginning to outstanding from the beginning he ehh— outstanding from the beginning he ehh .— outstanding from the beginning he ehh . h— outstanding from the beginning he ehh . h epehh— outstanding from the beginning to end . i spent three nights to end. i spent three nights hhee— to end. i spent three nights a... pm— to end. i spent three nights a... pm ,— to end. i spent three nights hhere, hrh , rhy— to end. i spent three nights there, um , my treatment there, um, my treatment i erhphhehhy— there, um, my treatment i originally went- there, um, my treatment i originally went in at 730 in the herhhhh — originally went in at 730 in the herhhhh uh— originally went in at 730 in the herhhhp. uh h— originally went in at 730 in the morning. um i had the operation at morning. um i had the operation eh eee.— morning. um i had the operation eh eeo- h— morning. um i had the operation eh eeo- hve— morning. um i had the operation at 930. i was back— morning. um i had the operation at 930. i was back in my bed at rheo— at 930. i was back in my bed at hhoo ehh— at 930. i was back in my bed at hhoo ehh hhe— at 930. i was back in my bed at 11:00 and the treatment from here— 11:00 and the treatment from here eh— 11:00 and the treatment from here eh hy— 11:00 and the treatment from there on by the— 11:00 and the treatment from there on by the whole staff, the ehvhhhery— there on by the whole staff, the auxiliary staff,— there on by the whole staff, the auxiliary staff, the— there on by the whole staff, the auxiliary staff, the nurses , um,

auxiliary staff, the nurses, um, the auxiliary staff, the nurses, um, hhe ehreehh— auxiliary staff, the nurses, um, the surgeon himself was eheehhhehy— the surgeon himself was absolutely outstanding . and the absolutely outstanding. and the anaesthetist, _ absolutely outstanding. and the anaesthetist, they were all hrhhhhehh. — anaesthetist, they were all brilliant. i— anaesthetist, they were all brilliant. i would recommend ehyhehy— brilliant. i would recommend ehyhehy he— brilliant. i would recommend ehyhehy he he— brilliant. i would recommend ehyhehy he he he— brilliant. i would recommend anybody to go to lithuania . anybody to go to lithuania. ehehheh— anybody to go to lithuania. another operation. but, but, but you look too young for a hip, hip replacement. really? the whole thing. and afterwards, were you able to how long did it take you to get recovered after that? um, well, i'm used to hehhh— that? um, well, i'm used to hehhh e— that? um, well, i'm used to hehhp e heh— that? um, well, i'm used to doing a lot of— .“3.7 um, well, i'm used to doing a lot of exercise and i heeh— doing a lot of exercise and i heeh he— doing a lot of exercise and i used to doing— doing a lot of exercise and i used to doing a— doing a lot of exercise and i used to doing a lot of long hhehehee— used to doing a lot of long distance walking and i was back on distance walking and i was back eh hhe— distance walking and i was back on the mountain— distance walking and i was back on the mountain within six eeeh — on the mountain within six eeeh he— on the mountain within six eeeh he — on the mountain within six weeks. no wow. - on the mountain within six weeks. no \vh::h on the mountain within six weeks. no \hh::h on the mountain within six weeks. no \h:h weeks. no wow. no. so. so how much did it cost you then? because you're you were promised that you'd be reimbursed. how much did it cost you? it cost for the operation and the implant. it came to 5500 pound. vvee— implant. it came to 5500 pound. vvev h— implant. it came to 5500 pound. vvev h hhhhhhh— implant. it came to 5500 pound. wow i inquired. i— it came to 5500 pound. wow i inquired. i inquired over yep.— wow i inquired. i inquired over yeh. hev— wow i inquired. i inquired over yep. hev heeh— wow i inquired. i inquired over you. how much would it cost over yeer— you. how much would it cost over yehe hhhhehhh— you. how much would it cost over you? although they_ you. how much would it cost over you? although they tell you hhere-e— you? although they tell you hhere-e e— you? although they tell you there's a standard rate of hheee. — there's a standard rate of hheee. hhh— there's a standard rate of 12,500. but once they add everyhhhhh— 12,500. but once they add everyhhhhp eh— 12,500. but once they add everything on it, it probably heee— everything on it, it probably heee hp— everything on it, it probably heee up he— everything on it, it probably goes up to about 16,500 pounds. uh —

goes up to about 16,500 pounds. uh er— goes up to about 16,500 pounds. uh er eehhee— goes up to about 16,500 pounds. um of course, we— goes up to about 16,500 pounds. um of course, we had to pay our own expense fees,— um of course, we had to pay our own expense fees, which then , heeh— own expense fees, which then came , took the— own expense fees, which then came , took the with the flights, came, took the with the flights, the came, took the with the flights, hhe heheh— came, took the with the flights, hhe heheh rer— came, took the with the flights, the hotel for my— came, took the with the flights, the hotel for my wife and myself and the hotel for my wife and myself ehh e— the hotel for my wife and myself ehh e heh— the hotel for my wife and myself ehh e heh hey— the hotel for my wife and myself and a ten day rehabilitation eehhe— and a ten day rehabilitation centre afterwards where they heeh— centre afterwards where they heeh hhher— centre afterwards where they look after you _ centre afterwards where they look after you perfectly . we look after you perfectly. we hheh— look after you perfectly. we hheh hh— look after you perfectly. we then it came— look after you perfectly. we then it came to— look after you perfectly. we then it came to just under hheee— then it came to just under hheee ee— then it came to just under £7,000 so it— then it came to just under £7,000 so it was well under all in £7,000 so it was well under all hh ehh— £7,000 so it was well under all hh ehh vehh— £7,000 so it was well under all in all would pay— £7,000 so it was well under all in all would pay over year. so all in all would pay over year. so ehh hh— in all would pay over year. so ehh h h— in all would pay over year. so ehh h h yee— in all would pay over year. so all in if you add— in all would pay over year. so all in if you add all- in all would pay over year. so all in if you add all that in everything seven and a half grand. wow that's great. yeah. unden grand. wow that's great. yeah. under, under £70,000. ours came to. that's incredible. don don thomas, talk to me about what happened to you and where you went. well, nana . yeah, similar went. well, nana. yeah, similar to went. well, nana. yeah, similar he seve.— went. well, nana. yeah, similar he eheve. h— went. well, nana. yeah, similar he eheve. h heh— went. well, nana. yeah, similar to steve. i had a— went. well, nana. yeah, similar to steve. i had a left— went. well, nana. yeah, similar to steve. i had a left ,- went. well, nana. yeah, similar to steve. i had a left , a- �*svh�*h:;.. \h3“3 yeah, similar to steve. i had a left , a full to steve. i had a left, a full hip— to steve. i had a left, a full hip replacement.- to steve. i had a left, a full hip replacement. lh�*ly .. to steve. i had a left, a full- hip replacement. my left, um , my hip replacement. my left, um, my hip replacement. my left, um, my hip was degrading very quickly indeed. it went within about six hehhhe— indeed. it went within about six hehhhe ehh— indeed. it went within about six months and because— 22 it went within about six months and because i had polio in months and because i had polio hh rhy— months and because i had polio hh rhy rhhhh— months and because i had polio hh rhy heh heh— months and because i had polio in my right leg when i was youth vhhh— in my right leg when i was youth vhhh rhy— in my right leg when i was youth vhhh rhy heh— in my right leg when i was youth vhhh rhy heh heh— in my right leg when i was youth with my left leg had sort of hehe— with my left leg had sort of hehe e— with my left leg had sort of done a lifetime's work. so here— done a lifetime's work. so here why— done a lifetime's work. so here why hh— done a lifetime's work. so that's why it was- done a lifetime's work. so that's why it was going very quickly. and i was concerned that, um , if my left hip went,

that, um, if my left hip went, then effectively i would be totally immobile . i couldn't totally immobile. i couldn't i vehhhh-h— totally immobile. i couldn't i vehhhh-h he— totally immobile. i couldn't i wouldn't be able— totally immobile. i couldn't i wouldn't be able to- i couldn't i wouldn't be able to walk at all, you— wouldn't be able to walk at all, yeh hhee— wouldn't be able to walk at all, yep hhev, pher— wouldn't be able to walk at all, you know, prior to— wouldn't be able to walk at all, you know, prior to the operation , i you know, prior to the operation , h we— you know, prior to the operation , h vehhhhh— you know, prior to the operation , i was walking on— you know, prior to the operation , i was walking on a walking ehheh. — , i was walking on a walking stick. .know. - , i was walking on a walking stick. .know. .so. , i was walking on a walking stick. .know. .so ,l , i was walking on a walkingi stick. .know. .so , so stick. you know. and so, so where did you go? and are you able where did you go? and are you ehhe he— where did you go? and are you ehhe he eheh— where did you go? and are you able to cast aside— where did you go? and are you able to cast aside the- 2 2 3:7 and are you able to cast aside the walking eheh— able to cast aside the walking ehheh hevv— able to cast aside the walking ehheh . — able to cast aside the walking stick now . v.35... or able to cast aside the walking stick now . h/h:;3“ or walk in stick now. yeah. or walk in eheehhhe— stick now. yeah. or walk in absolute normally- stick now. h/h:;3“ or walk in absolute normally now i'm not hhh— absolute normally now i'm not heh heh— absolute normally now i'm not heh heh ehhhe— absolute normally now i'm not i'm not quite like— absolute normally now i'm not i'm not quite like steve because , ume— i'm not quite like steve because , hhey— i'm not quite like steve because , hhey eey— i'm not quite like steve because , um, they say that— i'm not quite like steve because , um, they say that if you eehhhh-h— , um, they say that if you couldn't run— , um, they say that if you couldn't run a— , um, they say that if you couldn't run a marathon before, you— couldn't run a marathon before, yeh vehh— couldn't run a marathon before, yep veh-h he— couldn't run a marathon before, you won't be able— couldn't run a marathon before, you won't be able to run one ehherverhe. — you won't be able to run one afterwards. but— you won't be able to run one afterwards. but you. \h:h afterwards. but you. no, it's all afterwards. but you. no, it's ehh verhhhh— afterwards. but you. no, it's all working very well indeed. and i went to there as well . and i went to there as well. you went to the same . and how you went to the same. and how much— you went to the same. and how much hhh— you went to the same. and how much did it cost you about £7,000, including sort of travel. and my wife , my wife's travel. and my wife, my wife's accommodation— travel. and my wife, my wife's accommodation as— and my wife, my wife's accommodation as well . ' 2 accommodation as well. and that, you accommodation as well. and that, yeh knew.— accommodation as well. and that, you know, that includes the basically two weeks all together, three nights in the clinic. and then a transfer to a hhve— clinic. and then a transfer to a hhve eheh— clinic. and then a transfer to a five star health— clinic. and then a transfer to a five star health spa,— five star health spa, effectively - five star health spa, effectively for rehabilitation

for effectively for rehabilitation rerheh— effectively for rehabilitation her heh heye— effectively for rehabilitation for ten days afterwards . for ten days afterwards. okay. h-ve— for ten days afterwards. okay. h-ve heh— for ten days afterwards. okay. h-ve heh he— for ten days afterwards. okay. h-ve heh he sey— for ten days afterwards. okay. i've got to say that— for ten days afterwards. okay. i've got to say that the clinic were excellent in the service that they gave because they , um, that they gave because they, um, when you when you make the booking, they, they allocate you a representative at, you know, a service representative and they do all the or you book your own flight , but everything else do all the or you book your own flight, but everything else is arranged and booked by them. so there's somebody to meet you so there's somebody to meet you at there's somebody to meet you at hhe ehrperh— there's somebody to meet you at hhe ehrperh. eh— there's somebody to meet you at the airport. oh interesting, hhhereehhhh.— the airport. oh interesting, interesting. take the, you know, to interesting. take the, you know, he hhe— interesting. take the, you know, he hhe ehhhe— interesting. take the, you know, to the clinic and— interesting. take the, you know, to the clinic and then they ehhheh— to the clinic and then they ehhheh hhe— to the clinic and then they arrange the transfer from the ehhhe— arrange the transfer from the ehhhhe he— arrange the transfer from the clinic to the— arrange the transfer from the clinic to the house span and heeh— clinic to the house span and heeh he— clinic to the house span and heeh he hhe— clinic to the house span and back to the airport at the end of back to the airport at the end er hh— back to the airport at the end er hh ehh— back to the airport at the end er hh at, yep— back to the airport at the end of it all, you know. �*fvh�*h:;.. of it all, you know. well, eehehh— of it all, you know. well, sounds good. i of it all, you know. �*fvh�*h:;.. 3 i mean , couple sounds good. i mean, couple hheehhehe. — sounds good. i mean, couple hheehhehe. hr— sounds good. i mean, couple questions. if you've- sounds good. i mean, couple questions. if you've got- questions. if you've got a questions. if you've got a question , if you email it within question, if you email it within an within an hour, you've, you've always got an answer. and it's better than if there's no, no hesitation— and it's better than if there's no, no hesitation in really how ehehh— no, no hesitation in really how ehehh hhe— no, no hesitation in really how small the question can be reehhy— small the question can be reehhy, yep— small the question can be really, you know that's interesting _ really, you know that's interesting because you do that here. — interesting because you do that here. hehehy— interesting because you do that here. nobody gets— interesting because you do that here. \ 3 here. nobody gets back to you. you'd be by the time they

you'd be dead by the time they do. what about what do. marina, what about you? what happened where did you happened to you? where did you go? similar to don and go? very similar to don and steve. in fact, i actually corresponded with steve's wife on line and heard about peklenica from her and the thought of actually applying for s2 funding was quite an important part of my applying . important part of my applying. and the clinic actually provided a lot of the documentation that well , any a lot of the documentation that well, any that i needed, i jumped through all the hoops for the s2 funding and, and it was rejected. so i didn't actually get my— rejected. so i didn't actually heh rhy heehhh— 22 so i didn't actually get my health board rejected it. they— get my health board rejected it. hhey eehh— get my health board rejected it. they said their— get my health board rejected it. they said their interpretation of they said their interpretation er hhe — they said their interpretation er hhe rhhee— they said their interpretation of the rules was— they said their interpretation of the rules was that no, it vehhhh-h— of the rules was that no, it vehhhh-h epphy— of the rules was that no, it wouldn't apply. 53 . wouldn't apply. by that time i was in so much pain i'd booked it anyway. i was going, i'd been waiting nine months and i still hadnt waiting nine months and i still hadn't had my first appointment with the surgeon . wow. and

with the surgeon. wow. and i castit with the surgeon. wow. and i cast it as urgent for both . so cast it as urgent for both. so the funding. so, so you- . .. so the funding. so, so you were all prehheeh— the funding. so, so you were all prehheeh hheh— the funding. so, so you were all promised that you— the funding. so, so you were all promised that you would get your hehey— promised that you would get your hehey heeh— promised that you would get your money back then— promised that you would get your money back then ?_ promised that you would get your money back then ? apart from you, money back then? apart from you, hehe— money back then? apart from you, heh heh— money back then? apart from you, heh heh e— money back then? apart from you, maria from a lot— money back then? apart from you, maria from a lot of— money back then? apart from you, maria from a lot of forms, an hhh— maria from a lot of forms, an hhh yep— maria from a lot of forms, an and you applying— maria from a lot of forms, an and you applying for s2 funding and and you applying for s2 funding ehh hhey-re— and you applying for s2 funding and they're supposed to give you and they're supposed to give you e eerhhrheehe— and they're supposed to give you a certificate and— and they're supposed to give you a certificate and that will then go a certificate and that will then he he— a certificate and that will then he he hhe— a certificate and that will then go to the clinic— a certificate and that will then go to the clinic and basically vou— go to the clinic and basically yep heh— go to the clinic and basically yep heh hhe— go to the clinic and basically you get the cost— go to the clinic and basically you get the cost as steve said, hhe— you get the cost as steve said, hhe hrhphehh— you get the cost as steve said, the implant and— you get the cost as steve said, the implant and the operation, everyhhhhh— the implant and the operation, everyhhhhp ehee— the implant and the operation, everything else is you can't evpeeh— everything else is you can't evpeeh hhe— everything else is you can't expect the nhs— everything else is you can't expect the nhs to pay for your ehhee— expect the nhs to pay for your ehrrere er— expect the nhs to pay for your airfare or your— expect the nhs to pay for your airfare or your insurance . yeah, airfare or your insurance. yeah, vehh— airfare or your insurance. yeah, vehh he— airfare or your insurance. yeah, vehh hheh-e— airfare or your insurance. yeah, well no, that's and— airfare or your insurance. yeah, well no, that's and but you hhee— well no, that's and but you knew, ee— well no, that's and but you know, so fair— well no, that's and but you know, so fair enough. but that's the difference between whether you can afford to do that privately or not. yeah. well listen , thank you very much listen, thank you very much marina. to go private in the uk here— marina. to go private in the uk here hh— marina. to go private in the uk here hh whee— marina. to go private in the uk here in wales. well,— my?” to go private in the uk here in wales. well, we're we're rhhhhhh— here in wales. well, we're we're rhhhhhh ehh— here in wales. well, we're we're rhhhhhp ehh er— here in wales. well, we're we're running out of time because heh— running out of time because heh he— running out of time because we've got to get— running out of time because we've got to get over to the hrehh — we've got to get over to the grand national.— we've got to get over to the grand national. apparently, hhere-e— grand national. apparently, there's been— grand national. apparently, there's been a— grand national. apparently, there's been a major incident. ehehhe— there's been a major incident. marina-thank- there's been a major incident. marina thank very marina stock, thank you very much — marina stock, thank you very much. williamson. stephen much. don williamson. stephen vvhhhherhe—erl williams, the department of heehhh—eehhl williams, the department of. health—sent us health and social care sent us hhhe—he- this statement. the nhs is verhhhh— this statement. the nhs is verhhhh-ehh- this statement. the nhs is working cut waiting working hard to cut waiting hehe— working hard to cut waiting lists—continuing working hard to cut waiting.

lists—continuing to lists and we are continuing to hehe— lists and we are continuing to| make—elective make progress on our elective reeevery— make progress on our elective reeevery pheh — make progress on our elective recovery plan. despite winter pressures—and. pressures on the nhs and hhhhehrheh— pressures on the nhs and industrial action, the longest vehhe— industrial action, the longest vehhe rer— industrial action, the longest waits for treatment have fallen for waits for treatment have fallen her hhe — waits for treatment have fallen her hhe hhhrh— waits for treatment have fallen for the third month in a row and hhee— for the third month in a row and here vee— for the third month in a row and there werelrecord_ for the third month in a row and there were record 2.1 million there were a record 2.1 million hhehheehhe— there were a record 2.1 million diagnostic-carried- there were a record 2.1 million diagnostic carried out in diagnostic tests carried out in peppery,— diagnostic tests carried out in y.....,, hhehhe— diagnostic tests carried out in january, thanks to our 100 eehhhhhhy— january, thanks to our 100 community diagnostic centres , community diagnostic centres, vhheh— community diagnostic centres, vhheh hhve— community diagnostic centres, which have delivered over 3.4 hhhhheh— which have delivered over 3.4 million tests,— which have delivered over 3.4 million tests, checks and scans, ehehh— million tests, checks and scans, hhhehh ehh— million tests, checks and scans, urgent and emergency care eeevery— urgent and emergency care reeevery preh— urgent and emergency care recovery plan will deliver one of recovery plan will deliver one er hhe— recovery plan will deliver one of the fastest— recovery plan will deliver one of the fastest and— recovery plan will deliver one of the fastest and longest ehehehheh— of the fastest and longest sustained improvements in emergency— sustained improvements in emergency waiting times. well, ehey— emergency waiting times. well, ehey vhhh— emergency waiting times. well, ehey vhhh rhe— emergency waiting times. well, stay with me, because the grand hehheheh— stay with me, because the grand hehheheh hee— stay with me, because the grand national has been— stay with me, because the grand national has been delayed after ehhheh— national has been delayed after animal-protesters- national has been delayed after animal protesters broke animal rights protesters broke ehhe— animal rights protesters broke ehhe hhe— animal rights protesters broke ehhe hhe-ehh- animal rights protesters broke onto the and appear to be onto the course and appear to be ehehh— onto the course and appear to be hhhehhh—he— onto the course and appear to be hhhehhh—he hhe- onto the course and appear to be glueing to the jumps glueing themselves to the jumps in glueing themselves to the jumps hhleherh— glueing themselves to the jumps in .effortlprevent- glueing themselves to the jumps in effort prevent the race in an effort to prevent the race heh— in an effort to prevent the race from-placer— in an effort to prevent the race from place, activists from taking place, activists heh— from taking place, activists heh hhe— from taking place, activists from the animal rights and environmental— from the animal rights and environmental and animal rights preppe— environmental and animal rights groups attempting to groups were seen attempting to ehhh— groups were seen attempting to ehhhh-reheee— groups were seen attempting to climb-fences and- groups were seen attempting to climb fences and breaking climb over fences and breaking ehhe— climb over fences and breaking ehhe-ehehh- climb over fences and breaking onto-ahead of- climb over fences and breaking onto _ahead of the i onto the grass ahead of the -vheh- onto the grass ahead of the. race. _what-panel race. let's see what my panel hehe— race. let's see what my panel hhhe er— race. let's see what my panel hhhe er hheh. — race. let's see what my panel make of that. joining me , i'm make of that. joining me, i'm heeh— make of that. joining me, i'm heeh ehehh— make of that. joining me, i'm heh heh he— make of that. joining me, i'm just about to call— make of that. joining me, i'm just about to call you elizabeth emu..— just about to call you elizabeth chhhy, hhh— just about to call you elizabeth chhhy, huh yep— just about to call you elizabeth cundy, but you can call me vhehever— cundy, but you can call me whatever you— cundy, but you can call me whatever you like. elizabeth but hhhe,— whatever you like. elizabeth but lizzie, - elizabeth - whatever you like. elizabeth but lizzie,-elizabeth. - whatever you like. elizabeth but lizzie, elizabeth . ' “2 lizzie, i am elizabeth. and when i'm lizzie, i am elizabeth. and when m h— lizzie, i am elizabeth. and when i'm in trouble, mother i'm in trouble, my mother always calls elizabeth, calls me elizabeth. elizabeth, lizzie calls me elizabeth. elizabeth, hhzzhelvvheh— calls me elizabeth. elizabeth, lizzieiwhat-think?. lizzie, what do you think? hhey-re —hhe i lizzie, what do you think?- they're _the pitch. they're jumping on the pitch. ehhheh— they're jumping on the pitch. animal rebellion—

animal rebellion and animal. vvhehever.— animal rebellion and animal.| whatever. _sick animal rebellion and animal.- whatever. _sick to whatever. whatever. i'm sick to heehh— whatever. whatever. i'm sick to heehh er— whatever. whatever. i'm sick to death of them. it's disgusting. we've got to be tougher on them. you this cannot keep going you know, this cannot keep going on. we know. i'm sorry. they can't hold everyone to ransom . can't hold everyone to ransom. hold events like the grand national. but they would hold events like the grand national . but they would argue national. but they would argue hheh— national. but they would argue hheh hhe— national. but they would argue that the treatment— national. but they would argue that the treatment of- \h3. but they would argue that the treatment of the ehhhehe— that the treatment of the ehhhehe he— that the treatment of the animals is not- that the treatment of the animals is not acceptable. hheh-e— animals is not acceptable. that's where— animals is not acceptable. that's where exactly they're going— that's where exactly they're heheh-hhhe. — that's where exactly they're going-this. _do i that's where exactly they'rei going-this. _do you going with this. what do you hhhhhe— going with this. what do you think? that's— going with this. what do you think? that's what that animal. hveehhy— think? that's what that animal. heeehhy. hhh— think? that's what that animal. exactly. and you. _ think? that's what that animal. exactly. and you. wh:“ . exactly. and you. i won't. i vehh— exactly. and you. i won't. i won't stick. my, my, my. won't go and stick. my, my, my. i know you are to be. i know you are i know you are to be. i know you heeh-— i know you are to be. i know you ere-eh-hever.- i know you are to be. i know you are-an-lover. and. are to be an animal lover. and we are to be an animal lover. and ve-hhhe— are to be an animal lover. and we-this before- are to be an animal lover. and we-this before as. we discussed this before as vehh— we discussed this before as vehh-yeh— we discussed this before as well.-you know,- we discussed this before as well. you know, and you well. and you know, and you hhhhh— well. and you know, and you hhhhh hhe— well. and you know, and you think the . horse - well. and you know, and you think the horse deaths think the 60 horse deaths since it's think the 60 horse deaths since hh-e—eppehhhhh- think the 60 horse deaths sincei it's—appalling and it's since 2000 is appalling and you— it's since 2000 is appalling and yep-hhree— it's since 2000 is appalling and yep-hhree-hheh. - it's since 2000 is appalling and you-agree-that. so- it's since 2000 is appalling and you agree that. so these you do agree with that. so these all you do agree with that. so these ehh-peephe— you do agree with that. so these ehh-peephe ere— you do agree with that. so these all people are doing is all these people are doing is hryhhh— all these people are doing is hryhholrhehe— all these people are doing is trying make stand and to trying to make a stand and to say— trying to make a stand and to eey hheh— trying to make a stand and to eey hheh hhe— trying to make a stand and to say that the grand national is eeheehhy— say that the grand national is actually dangerous for the heee— actually dangerous for the horses. _needl actually dangerous for thei horses. _need to actually dangerous for the - horses. _need to have horses. and we do need to have as horses. and we do need to have ee e eehhhry— horses. and we do need to have as a countrylbetter- as a country a better relationship- as a country a better relationship animals as a country a better- relationship-animals and as a country a better— relationship-animals and in relationship with animals and in in relationship with animals and in hh erher— relationship with animals and in hh erher he— relationship with animals and in in order to like,— relationship with animals and in in order to like, you know , be in order to like, you know, be eh— in order to like, you know, be more at one with— in order to like, you know, be more at one with the environment to more at one with the environment he hehp— more at one with the environment he hehp eheh— more at one with the environment to help each other. _ more at one with the environment to help each other. r:ry more at one with the environment to help each other. “1.73 532 more at one with the environment to help each other. «£73 532 to help each other. very sad for the to help each other. very sad for hhe rer— to help each other. very sad for the for we've got some the for the we've got some pictures actually at the grand national and we've got there, as you there's some you can see, that there's some they be police in they must be police there in dayglo and then there's

dayglo yellow and then there's some people climbing on sort of fences things and just fences and things and just around the perimeter fences of the course, you can the actual race course, you can see that they are now there's some people just sitting still because obviously been because obviously they've been glued it looks like they've glued and it looks like they've glued and it looks like they've glued the sort of glued themselves to the sort of perimeter . that of perimeter type. is that sort of like they do this then like a rather they do this then glue m25 and glue themselves to the m25 and hold everybody's day is all hold up everybody's day is all i can say. this, this, this is hhhe— can say. this, this, this is hhhe he— can say. this, this, this is this is this— can say. this, this, this is this is this the— f i“ this, this, this is this is this the sports event? hhere-e— this is this the sports event? hhere-e-he — this is this the sports event? there's-to protest- this is this the sports event? there's-to protest and. this is this the sports event? . there's-to protest and i'm there's a way to protest and i'm for all everyone having their say any matter. and i you say on any matter. and i as you know, animal lover. know, i'm a huge animal lover. you isn't the way to you are. this isn't the way to do they're getting do it. so they're not getting hurt. they're not getting hurt. ehhervhee— hurt. they're not getting hurt. otherwise-what- ”. they're not getting hurt. otherwise what they otherwise this is what they hhhhh—hh-e- otherwise this is what they think._it's very. think. obviously, it's very sad. hhyvey— think. obviously, it's very sad. anyway-er— think. obviously, it's very sad. anyway-of - horsesl think. obviously, it's very sad. i anyway-of-horses in anyway, deaths of any horses in this what bucha this race. what bucha entertainment horses for entertainment. looked entertainment horses for entertandlent. looked entertainment horses for entertandlent. won't ooked entertainment horses for entertandlent. won't be :ed entertainment horses for entertandlent. won't be alive. after. and they won't be alive. but they they. but but a lot but they say they. but but a lot of but they say they. but but a lot er peephe— but they say they. but but a lot er peephe he— but they say they. but but a lot er peephe he eey— but they say they. but but a lot of people do say that they hehheve— of people do say that they believe-horses. of people do say that they- believe - horses wouldn't believe that the horses wouldn't do believe that the horses wouldn't he-hr— believe that the horses wouldn't he-h hhey— believe that the horses wouldn't do - if they weren't - do the race if they weren't ehheyhho — do the race if they weren't ehheyhho hh— do the race if they weren't ehheyhho h. h— do the race if they weren't enjoying it. i mean, i don't hhev— enjoying it. i mean, i don't know whether— enjoying it. i mean, i don't know whether that's. but roughly enjoying it. i mean, i don't knr ? 3“. no, that's. but roughly enjoying it. i mean, i don't knr 3 3“. no, theys. but roughly enjoying it. i mean, i don't knr 3 3“. no, they mightroughly enjoying it. i mean, i don't knr 3 3“. no, they might not,lly . right. no, they might not, hheeeh— . right. no, they might not, hhehhh. hee— . right. no, they might not, hhehph. he yep— . 33“. no, they might not, though. do you sound like seeehy—pee.— though. do you sound like scooby—doo, your though. do you sound like scoclike doo, your though. do you sound like scoclike that. your though. do you sound like scoclike that. you your though. do you sound like scoclike that. you-like your hair like that. you look like hhh— hair like that. you look like he he— hair like that. you look like him as well. _ hair like that. you look like him as well. �*ifhh:i.. 2 him as well. well, looked after these these horses. yes, of

course. course. they course. yes, of course. they are. very well. of course they hhh— are. very well. of course they heh heh— are. very well. of course they are. but that isn't— 3”h:i hi”3v of course they are. but that isn't that isn't hhe—hhhl are. but that isn't that isn't- the _and believe the point, frankham. and believe me, the point, frankham. and believe hhe—hhher- the point, frankham. and believe me, after and me, they are so looked after and it is very sad there are any deaths. but this isn't the way to do it. and if this was any ehher— to do it. and if this was any ehher eperhhho— 2o . and if this was any other sporting thing, like if we hhhe— other sporting thing, like if we hhhe hr— other sporting thing, like if we were like if we— other sporting thing, like if we were like if we were like if it hhhe— were like if we were like if it hhhe ve— were like if we were like if it was this was hurdles and, you knew.— was this was hurdles and, you knew. ehh— was this was hurdles and, you knew. ehh e— was this was hurdles and, you know, and a human being died every.— know, and a human being died every—every- know, and a human being died every—every everyl know, and a human being died every, every every odd every, you know, every every odd yeer—ever- year because they fell over a hhrhhe— year because they fell over a hhrhhe ehh— year because they fell over a hurdle and _to - year because they fell over a hurdle and to the face. hurdle and stick it to the face. i hurdle and stick it to the face. h vehhhh-h— hurdle and stick it to the face. hvehhhh-h he— hurdle and stick it to the face. iwouldn't do it.— hurdle and stick it to the face. i wouldn't do it. i— hurdle and stick it to the face. i wouldn't do it. i wouldn't do it i wouldn't do it. i wouldn't do hhlhherh. — iwouldn't do it. i wouldn't do hhlhherh. hhe— i wouldn't do it. i wouldn't do it them. . 23 i wouldn't do it. i wouldn't do it othem. . 23 i wouldn't do it. i wouldn't do it ..5 2 i wouldn't do it. i wouldn't do all of us. what are your thoughts are on the grand national and those protesters glueing themselves to things again? and again? i mean, i'm sick and tired of people glueing themselves. though a tired of people glueing the of .elves. though a tired of people glueing theof animals though a tired of people glueing theof animals don't though a lot of animals don't particularly me. but what particularly like me. but what do think? i mean, do you do you think? i mean, do you think the right way think that that's the right way to get in touch at gb to protest? get in touch at gb views tweet me gb views or why not tweet me at gb news or email gbviews@gbnews.uk. now up, it's news or email gbviews@gbnews.uk. novgreat up, it's news or email gbviews@gbnews.uk. novgreat british up, it's news or email gbviews@gbnews.uk. novgreat british debate), it's the great british debate this houn the great british debate this hour. i'm asking, are the hour. and i'm asking, are the royal college of are royal college of nurses, are their greedy now? their members being greedy now? they the they rcn have rejected the government pay offer of 5% in england will now go on england and will now go on strike over the 1st may bank holiday. this is a 48 hour

walkout which will mean that many emergency departments, cancer and intensive care wards, will huge staff numbers will suffer huge staff numbers problems. are the rcn being problems. so are the rcn being greedy .

just on 23 minutes after 5:00, this is gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua. and it's now time for our great british debate this hour. and i'm asking, are the rcn nurses, are they being greedy now, yesterday , the members now, yesterday, the members rejected the government's pay offer and after they were loads offer and after they were loads of walkouts, course the vote of walkouts, of course the vote was to close 54, turning down the 5% pay rise for 2023 and 2024 and a one off cash payment , which would be at least £1,655, which would top up the past year's salary. now the union has urged ministers to

come forward with a historic pay award to break the deadlock. but health secretary steve barclay says it's hugely disappointing , says it's hugely disappointing, noting that nurses have rejected what the government put on the table . now members of unison, table. now members of unison, which includes some nurses and ambulance crews , have accepted ambulance crews, have accepted the pay offer. but the members of rcn will go on strike of the rcn will go on strike again the bank holiday. so again over the bank holiday. so what do you think? so intensive care what do you think? so intensive veh-h he— what do you think? so intensive care won't be staffed? - 2o i“ 7 so intensive care won't be staffed? i'm eehhhe— care won't be staffed? i'm eehhee ere— care won't be staffed? i'm asking are the— care won't be staffed? i'm asking are the rcn nurse members just being plain greedy? joining me now to discuss this reality tv star, commentator, narinder kaun tv star, commentator, narinder kaur, psychiatrist, tv star, commentator, narinder kaur, psychiatrist , psychiatric kaur, psychiatrist, psychiatric nurse julia taylor, and gb news presenter emily carver. right. so i'm going to start with you, juua so i'm going to start with you, julia , because you're here. julia, because you're here. you're a nurse. i mean, i'm looking at it. 5% is pretty good. are they being greedy ? i good. are they being greedy? i don't think so. not at all. if we were being— 2 i“ . i“

of before i came on here, and a lot er hherh— before i came on here, and a lot er hherh vee— before i came on here, and a lot of them were saying, we're eeheehhy— of them were saying, we're eehehhhy hryhho— of them were saying, we're actually trying to save the nhs --whv_ actually trying to save the nhs .-vhy vehe— actually trying to save the nhs .-vhy eehhh- . that's why we're going on ehhhe— . that's why we're going on strike,_things. . that's why we're going on. strike,_things don't strike, because if things don't ehehhe— strike, because if things don't change vvee— strike, because if things don't change, we're going to lose the hhe.— change, we're going to lose the we hhh— change, we're going to lose the we hhh eehhh— change, we're going to lose the nhs. and being a— change, we're going to lose the nhs. and being a nurse now is not attractive _ nhs. and being a nurse now is not attractive like— nhs. and being a nurse now is not attractive like it was when i not attractive like it was when r ehehheh— not attractive like it was when r ehehheh rhy— not attractive like it was when i started my nurses training heeehee— i started my nurses training heeehee hhe— i started my nurses training because the pay— i started my nurses training because the pay is not good ehehhh— because the pay is not good ehehph ehh— because the pay is not good enough and nobody's coming in. vehh— enough and nobody's coming in. vvehh hehehy. — enough and nobody's coming in. well nobody. you— enough and nobody's coming in. well nobody. you know what i heeh— well nobody. you know what i mean? there's— well nobody. you know what i mean? there's not many nurses eeheehhy— mean? there's not many nurses eeheehhy .— mean? there's not many nurses actually . somebody stopped their actually. somebody stopped their nurses training— actually. somebody stopped their nurses training after a year and a nurses training after a year and e heh— nurses training after a year and e heh he— nurses training after a year and e heh he hh— nurses training after a year and a half to it because they reehheeh— a half to it because they realised they_ a half to it because they realised they could make more hehey— realised they could make more hehey ee— realised they could make more money as a healthcare assistant hehe— money as a healthcare assistant hehhh heur— money as a healthcare assistant doing four nights— money as a healthcare assistant doing four nights a week, it was heeh— doing four nights a week, it was heeh he— doing four nights a week, it was easier just to leave. instead of easierjust to leave. instead of hevhhh— easierjust to leave. instead of hevhhh ehh— easierjust to leave. instead of having all that— easierjust to leave. instead of having all that stress and all hhe— having all that stress and all hhe preeeure— having all that stress and all the pressure. yeah, backdated humpehh— the pressure. yeah, backdated humpehh 5.— the pressure. yeah, backdated lumpsum 5. great. it would be eheehhhehy— lumpsum 5. great. it would be absolutely brilliant and i'd heve— absolutely brilliant and i'd heve hhee— absolutely brilliant and i'd love that, but— absolutely brilliant and i'd love that, but i've voted no. hhh— love that, but i've voted no. hhh hhh— love that, but i've voted no. and i'll tell— love that, but i've voted no. and i'll tell you— love that, but i've voted no. and i'll tell you why i've voted no, because it's— and i'll tell you why i've voted no, because it's not going to ehhreee— no, because it's not going to ehhreee hhe— no, because it's not going to address the problems that we've heh.— address the problems that we've heh. vve— address the problems that we've heh. vve heeh— address the problems that we've got. we need more— address the problems that we've got. we need more nurses and the eehhhhhehe— got. we need more nurses and the conditions need— got. we need more nurses and the conditions need to— got. we need more nurses and the conditions need to change. we heeh— conditions need to change. we need more doctors. we need more hehe— need more doctors. we need more hehe. ve— need more doctors. we need more hehe. ve heeh— need more doctors. we need more beds, we need more— need more doctors. we need more beds, we need more social care heeehee— beds, we need more social care heeehee hheh-e— beds, we need more social care because that's why— beds, we need more social care because that's why there's

hheee— because that's why there's hheee peephe— because that's why there's 10,000 people blocking beds rhhhh— 10,000 people blocking beds rhohh hevv— 10,000 people blocking beds right now. that's— 10,000 people blocking beds right now. that's what we need ehh— right now. that's what we need ehh hheh-e— right now. that's what we need ehh hheh-e vhy— right now. that's what we need and that's why we've got the prehherh. — and that's why we've got the prehherh. se— and that's why we've got the problem. so no,— and that's why we've got the problem. so no, on all those eehhhe— problem. so no, on all those prehhhe .— problem. so no, on all those prehhhe . ve— problem. so no, on all those grounds , we aren't being. well, grounds, we aren't being. well, h-rh — grounds, we aren't being. well, h-rh eeyhhh— grounds, we aren't being. well, h-rh eeyhho ve— grounds, we aren't being. well, h-rh eeyhho we r— grounds, we aren't being. well, i'm saying we i am in unison, huh.— i'm saying we i am in unison, heh. heh.— i'm saying we i am in unison, heh. heh. h— i'm saying we i am in unison, but. well, i was,— i'm saying we i am in unison, but. well, i was, um. but i hhree— but. well, i was, um. but i agree vhhh— but. well, i was, um. but i agree with the— but. well, i was, um. but i agree with the rcn wholeheartedly . they've done agree with the rcn _ wholeheartedly . they've done the wholeheartedly. they've done the rhhhh— wholeheartedly. they've done the rhohh hhhe— wholeheartedly. they've done the rhohh hhhe. — wholeheartedly. they've done the rhohh hhhhp . hhh— wholeheartedly. they've done the right thing . all the— wholeheartedly. they've done the right thing . “35 right thing. all the things you've listed are quite there's quite a long list. that's not going to happen. just and especially if the money goes up a lot further. emily carver i think a lot of what julia said is absolutely fair enough. it seems to me that people working vhhhhh— seems to me that people working vhhhhh hhe— seems to me that people working within the nns— seems to me that people working within the nhs are— seems to me that people working within the nhs are unhappy with her— within the nhs are unhappy with hhehr verhhhh— within the nhs are unhappy with their working conditions and hhey-re— their working conditions and they're unhappy with their pay. hhh— they're unhappy with their pay. hhh h— they're unhappy with their pay. hhh h hhhhh— they're unhappy with their pay. and i think but— they're unhappy with their pay. and i think but i— they're unhappy with their pay. and i think but i think what the ehhhe— and i think but i think what the strike action— and i think but i think what the strike action shows is how heeperehe— strike action shows is how desperate we _ strike action shows is how desperate we are for change when it desperate we are for change when hh eehhee— desperate we are for change when hh he— desperate we are for change when it comes to nhs. _ desperate we are for change when it comes to nhs. it— desperate we are for change when it comes to nhs. . . it comes to nhs. it isn't eehhhe— it comes to nhs. it isn't serving patients at the moment in of outcomes to many in terms of outcomes to many people are dying because our health service isn't functioning as should be and it's also as it should be and it's also not serving the staff who, by the sounds it, at their the sounds of it, are at their wits end in terms of the conditions , not just the pay. conditions, not just the pay. however , i do think it is very

however, i do think it is very hheeppehhhhho— however, i do think it is very disappointing that the rcn has heheh— disappointing that the rcn has hhrheh hevh— disappointing that the rcn has turned down this— disappointing that the rcn has turned down this offer. we are in turned down this offer. we are hh e— turned down this offer. we are in a particularly— turned down this offer. we are in a particularly difficult ehhhehheh— in a particularly difficult situation in— in a particularly difficult situation in the economy. huge ehehhe— situation in the economy. huge erhehhe er— situation in the economy. huge amounts of debt. _ situation in the economy. huge amounts of debt. it is the case hheh— amounts of debt. it is the case hheh heerhy— amounts of debt. it is the case that nearly across— amounts of debt. it is the case that nearly across the board hheh— that nearly across the board hheh peephe— that nearly across the board that people are— that nearly across the board that people are not receiving heeh.— that people are not receiving heeh. heeh— that people are not receiving real, real term— that people are not receiving real, real term pay increases is to real, real term pay increases is he reh— real, real term pay increases is he vhhh— real, real term pay increases is to run with inflation. a lot of peephe— to run with inflation. a lot of peephe ere— to run with inflation. a lot of people are feeling the squeeze. hhh— people are feeling the squeeze. hhh h— people are feeling the squeeze. hhh h hhhhh— people are feeling the squeeze. and i think what— people are feeling the squeeze. and i think what rishi sunak heehe— and i think what rishi sunak heehe he— and i think what rishi sunak heehe he he— and i think what rishi sunak needs to do and— and i think what rishi sunak needs to do and i think what the ehee— needs to do and i think what the unions also should— needs to do and i think what the unions also should be doing is hevhhh— unions also should be doing is having constructive talks about hev— having constructive talks about hev he— having constructive talks about hev he hehe— having constructive talks about how to make the— having constructive talks about how to make the nhs better. and hheh— how to make the nhs better. and hheh hey— how to make the nhs better. and hheh hey heeh— how to make the nhs better. and that may mean looking to hhherehh— that may mean looking to different systems, looking to more marketized versions of but , more marketized versions of but . huh.— more marketized versions of but . heh. heh— more marketized versions of but . heh. heh vheh— more marketized versions of but , but, but what about the nurses hhehhhe — , but, but what about the nurses hhehphe hhe— , but, but what about the nurses though? the 5?— , but, but what about the nurses though? the 5? i— , but, but what about the nurses though? liy7’ i“ 3”h:i though? the 5? i mean, are they being think being greedy? i don't think hhey-re— being greedy? i don't think hhey-re eehhh— “3 h3”h:ih:ih2y7’ i don't think they're being greedy necessarily .—hehhh- , but perhaps they're being unrealistic— , but perhaps they're being unrealistic and— , but perhaps they're being unrealistic and they're not eehhh— unrealistic and they're not hehhh ee— unrealistic and they're not being as unrealistic as the hhher— being as unrealistic as the. hhhher—ehre junior doctors, that's for sure. hhh— junior doctors, that's for sure. huh hhee— junior doctors, that's for sure. huh here he— junior doctors, that's for sure. but there is a— junior doctors, that's for sure. but there is a reason why one of the but there is a reason why one of hhe hhhehe— but there is a reason why one of the unions that— but there is a reason why one of the unions that unison did eeeeph— the unions that unison did eeeeph hhhe— the unions that unison did accept this deal because , as accept this deal because, as i hheh— accept this deal because, as i assume that they're thinking, we heeh— assume that they're thinking, we heeh he— assume that they're thinking, we heeh he he— assume that they're thinking, we need to be looking after our pehhenhe— need to be looking after our pehhehhe ve — need to be looking after our patients, we need to work within the patients, we need to work within hhe hhs. — patients, we need to work within hhe hhs. vve— patients, we need to work within the nhs. we don't— patients, we need to work within the nhs. we don't want people to die the nhs. we don't want people to hhe heeehee— the nhs. we don't want people to die because we're— the nhs. we don't want people to die because we're taking this

ehhhe— die because we're taking this ehhe-ehh— die because we're taking this strike - and we - die because we're taking this strike and we know people strike action and we know people are strike action and we know people ere-se— strike action and we know people ere-se h— strike action and we know people ere-se h hhhhh— strike action and we know people are-so i think if- strike action and we know people are-so i think if i- strike action and we know people are-so i think if i were. are dying. so i think if i were are dying. so i think if i were a nurse, would obviously want a nurse, i would obviously want to more. i wouldn't want to be paid more. i wouldn't want to be paid more. i wouldn't want to ridiculous hours to be working ridiculous hours non—stop, wouldn't non—stop, but i also wouldn't want to be harming patients. and i is what's happening i think that is what's happening right now. talk of right now. and the talk of coordinating— ”3“. and the talk of coordinating narinder kaur herhhher— coordinating narinder kaur narinder coming from coordinating narinder kaur- narinder-coming from the narinder kaur is coming from the ovehrhhh — narinder kaur is coming from the government. emily,— narinder kaur is coming from the government. . government. emily, this isn't coming from nurses and doctors striking . it's coming directly striking. it's coming directly from the government . the from the government. the government could- 3 the government could have sorted hhhe— government could have sorted hhhe ehh— government could have sorted hhhe ehh e— government could have sorted this out a-time- government could have sorted this out a time last this out a long time ago, last summer when— this out a long time ago, last summer when knew this would summer when they knew this would happen. — summer when they knew this would heppeh _ah— summer when they knew this would happen. .are proposing- happen. they are proposing purposely coming to any kind purposely not coming to any kind of realistic offer for nurses because they want the nhs to fail. do not spin me this hehehhve— fail. do not spin me this hehehhve — . do not spin me this narrative. fail. do not spin me this- narrative. somehow that this government of the hero and nurses are villains. that is untrue nurses are villains. that is ehhheh ehh— nurses are villains. that is ehhheh ehh e— nurses are villains. that is untrue and a big- . that is untrue and a big monumental slap in untrue and a big monumental slap hh hhehr— untrue and a big monumental slap hh hhehr heee— untrue and a big monumental slap in their face for— untrue and a big monumental slap in their face for everything hhey— in their face for everything hhey hhh— in their face for everything they did during covid. �*ifhh: they did during covid. we know vheh— they did during covid. we know vheh hhehh — they did during covid. we know what rishi sunak's trying to do here. he's trying to do a thatcher. he wants the whole nhs gone and he wants to privatise it. hence why he's given such a crappy— it. hence why he's given such a crappy pay— it. hence why he's given such a crappy pay-and— . hence why he's given such a crappy pay and steve crappy pay rise. and steve herehey— crappy pay rise. and steve barclay actually, quite frankly, is barclay actually, quite frankly, he e— barclay actually, quite frankly,

he e heeeeeh— barclay actually, quite frankly, he e heeeeeh .— barclay actually, quite frankly, is a useless , a— barclay actually, quite frankly, is a useless , a walking talking is a useless, a walking talking a is a useless, a walking talking e hhhe.— is a useless, a walking talking a minute. hold— is a useless, a walking talking a minute. hold on— is a useless, a walking talking a minute. hold on a minute. hold on a minute. hold on a minute. hold eh e hhhe.— a minute. hold on a minute. hold on a minute. okay,— a minute. hold on a minute. hold on a minute. okay, so i epehephee— on a minute. okay, so i apologise for- on a minute. okay, so i apologise for anybody who's ehehheh— apologise for anybody who's ehehheh hy— apologise for anybody who's offended by some of that hehohepe— offended by some of that language-but- offended by some of that language but look, the offended by some of that langlisge but look, the offended by some of that langlis a but look, the offended by some of that langlis a mess. but look, the offended by some of that langlis a mess. it's: look, the offended by some of that langlis a mess. it's not k, the offended by some of that langlis a mess. it's not really nhs is a mess. it's not really verhhhh— nhs is a mess. it's not really verhhhp very— nhs is a mess. it's not really verhhhp very-eh- nhs is a mess. it's not really working very at all. and working very well at all. and a lot working very well at all. and a heh er— working very well at all. and a heh er hhe— working very well at all. and a lot of the things— working very well at all. and a lot of the things that are going on lot of the things that are going eh-hh— lot of the things that are going eh-hh hheehh - lot of the things that are going on-it itself. like- on are within it itself. like ehh— on are within it itself. like all-diversity- on are within it itself. like all diversity and inclusion, all the diversity and inclusion, hehehy— all the diversity and inclusion,- hehehy—vhhh nobody told them to come up with all nobody told them to come up with ehh-rehee.— nobody told them to come up with ehh-rehee. hhe— nobody told them to come up with all-roles. the layers- all those roles. the layers and heyere— all those roles. the layers and layers-managers,- layers of managers, which i'm heh— layers of managers, which i'm heh pereehehhy— layers of managers, which i'm not personally happy to pay for hehe— not personally happy to pay for here hehe— not personally happy to pay for here hehh eh— not personally happy to pay for nana hang on. wait. let me hhhhh—hel finish. sorry i listened to you herhhher— finish. sorry i listened to you narinder listened to you. narinder kaur i listened to you. it's narinder kaur i listened to you. hhe-hev.— narinder kaur i listened to you. hhe-hev. heeh.- narinder kaur i listened to you. it's-now. yeah. so- narinder kaur i listened to you. it's now. yeah. so the it's my turn now. yeah. so the heyere— it's my turn now. yeah. so the heyere-heyere— it's my turn now. yeah. so the layers layers managers. layers and layers of managers. hhher— layers and layers of managers. ana-a..— layers and layers of managers. after-are awarded- after all, they are awarded hehey— after all, they are awarded money government after all, they are awarded- money-government through money by the government through an independent pay body that it's an independent pay body that hhe-hheee— an independent pay body that it's-those trusts- it's down to those trusts to epehh — it's down to those trusts to spend accordingly. they're it's down to those trusts to spend money.iingly. they're it's down to those trusts to spend money. they're hey're it's down to those trusts to spend money. they're wasting wasting money. they're wasting our—that! our money. and i reckon that hhey— our money. and i reckon that hhey-prehehhy- our money. and i reckon that they probably the our money. and i reckon that. they-probably-the pay they could probably get the pay rise they could probably get the pay rhee-hhehr— they could probably get the pay rise _their-out- they could probably get the pay rise _their-outlalll rise out of their own out of all hheh— rise out of their own out of all hheh veeeh— rise out of their own out of all that waste-they're- rise out of their own out of all that waste. they're having that waste. plus they're having hheh— that waste. plus they're having hheh-peheheh- that waste. plus they're having that-pension, a- that waste. plus they're having that pension, a huge that amazing pension, a huge peheheh—hhel pension, literally double the ehehh— pension, literally double the amount-most- pension, literally double the amount most people in amount that most people in the prhvehe— amount that most people in the prhvehe-vhhh— amount that most people in the private _will-julia. private sector will have. julia i private sector will have. julia h—veh- private sector will have. juliai h—veh heve private sector will have. julia. h—veh heve e i mean, am i wrong? you have a rehhhehe— i mean, am i wrong? you have a rehhhehe-veeh - i mean, am i wrong? you have a fabulous-yeah you. i mean, am i wrong? you have a fabulous yeah /:. 3”h:i fabulous pension. yeah you are eehehhh— fabulous pension. yeah you are eehhehhylhhe— fabulous pension. yeah you are actually the that the actually in the way that the changed lot. if i was to changed it a lot. if i was to retire now, i'll give you a good example. and i'm 50 old. example. and i'm 50 years old. i would get a lump sum of £13,000. £280 a month. that's an nhs

pension for you. now the used to be everybody was jealous. they've got double what they used to get paid every day. it was absolutely brilliant. but they've changed that and i think that changed that with the gender for change just after that, they changed the pension . that, they changed the pension. it's not worth the paper it's written now it's rubbish. written on now. it's rubbish. honestly, on. but we can't honestly, go on. but we can't eery— honestly, go on. but we can't eerry eh— honestly, go on. but we can't eerry eh hhhe— honestly, go on. but we can't carry on like this.— honestly, go on. but we can't carry on like this. julia- 3o o“ but we can't carry on like this. julia i mean hhhe— carry on like this. julia i mean hhhe phvhhh— carry on like this. julia i mean like giving more— carry on like this. julia i mean like giving more money. it's not going— like giving more money. it's not hehhh he— like giving more money. it's not hehe helhh.— like giving more money. it's not hehe helhh. he— like giving more money. it's not going to.it, is it?— like giving more money. it's not going to it, is it? just going to fix it, is it? just more-more- going to fix it, is it? just. more-more-do going to fix it, is it.7 just- more-more-do you more and more money, do you think—realty.- think that that's really. i agree — think that that's really. i agree. there's- think that that's really. i agree. there's a lot changes agree. there's a lot of changes need— agree. there's a lot of changes need ee— agree. there's a lot of changes need tolmade_ agree. there's a lot of changes need to.made in- agree. there's a lot of changes need to made in within the need to be made in within the management— need to be made in within the management structure nhs management structure of the nhs . there-s— management structure of the nhs . there-s eee— management structure of the nhs . there's too-managers. management structure of the nhsi . there's too-managers too, . there's too many managers too, you know, not enough nurses, not enough doctors, but more than anything, the policies need to come from the government to and be frank, it's the nhs started failing, i would say in the last 30 years. i'm not just blaming the conservatives for this. it's not just them. it's emily. sorry i think emily. emily. i think. i think there are so many problems within the nhs, but i think it

was built that the idea came at a time when people weren't living as long erg when people had very different diseases, died of different diseases. we didn't have such an ageing population as we do now. and i think the problem is, is that the government and people in general, the public in general and nhs workers perhaps as well, haven't been honest about the need to actually think again and think, do we have a system that is fit for purpose? because if you leek— is fit for purpose? because if you leek ee— is fit for purpose? because if you look to australia- �*" c , because if you look to australia where doctore— you look to australia where doctors and _ you look to australia where doctors and nurses are going to eem— doctors and nurses are going to from me— doctors and nurses are going to from the ue— doctors and nurses are going to from the uk because they want to week— from the uk because they want to work-different— from the uk because they want to work different system, if work in a different system, if you— work in a different system, if yee-ee— work in a different system, if yee-at eheee,- work in a different system, if you at those, they have you look at those, they have better— you look at those, they have better outcomes. fewer people are dying on necessarily within those and i think we those systems and i think we shouldn't be afraid of thinking actually can we make the nhs actually how can we make the nhs better? how can we make sure that— better? how can we make sure that people— better? how can we make sure that people gee— better? how can we make sure that people get good- ”7’ how can we make sure that people get good care because— that people get good care because we _ that people get good care because we are all paying into it? because we are all paying into rre nurses— because we are all paying into it? nurses-doctors- because we are all paying into it? nurses doctors alike. it? nurses and doctors alike. arre— it? nurses and doctors alike. are er— it? nurses and doctors alike. and of course— it? nurses and doctors alike. and of course the people who use it. and of course the people who use is _j-usr— and of course the people who use n—r-usr sav- and of course the people who use n—r-usr sey r- and of course the people who use n—r-usr sey r ue- it. but i would just say i do rnrrn— it. but i would just say i do rnrn rue— it. but i would just say i do think the threat— it. but i would just say i do think the threat coordinated think the threat of coordinated surre— think the threat of coordinated strike - doctors, - think the threat of coordinated strike doctors, nurses is strike action doctors, nurses is really— strike action doctors, nurses is really rs— strike action doctors, nurses is really is eue— strike action doctors, nurses is really is and i'm— strike action doctors, nurses is really is and i'm sorry to say, nur— really is and i'm sorry to say, bur r— really is and i'm sorry to say,

bur r ue— really is and i'm sorry to say, but i do think— really is and i'm sorry to say, but i do think that is unforgivable . c f: unforgivable. it's wicked. i think it's wicked, really. frankly narinder kaur that's the government's fault. that's not the government's fault. that's not rne nurses— government's fault. that's not the nurses fault— government's fault. that's not the nurses fault . _ government's fault. that's not the nurses fault . no,- government's fault. that's not the nurses fault . no, no,- government's fault. that's not the nurses fault . no, no, that's the nurses fault. no, no, that's striking. the government aren't striking. the government aren't striking. no striking. they're striking. no the government, they. they're left choice the government, they. they're left-choice - strike.| left with no choice but strike. rnrs— left with no choice but strike. rnrslrne— left with no choice but strike. this .the first— left with no choice but strike. this the first government left with no choice but strike. this have; first government left with no choice but strike. this have made government left with no choice but strike. this have made nursesnent left with no choice but strike. this have made nurses strike for that have made nurses strike for the that have made nurses strike for rne nrsr— that have made nurses strike for rne nrsr une— that have made nurses strike for the first time in— that have made nurses strike for the first time in history beseuse— the first time in history because you- the first time in history because you can't make anyone do anything- — because you can't make anyone do anything- anu— because you can't make anyone do anything. and actually- because you can't make anyone do anything. and actually .- because you can't make anyone do anything. ' r: f �*fu�*rzgc anything. and actually. well, yes, can because they know yes, you can because they know you own bills you can't pay their own bills and their own children. so and feed their own children. so their priority is actually lie- their priority is actually lie at their priority is actually lie er none— their priority is actually lie at home because they're not being— at home because they're not being-ensuen.- at home because they're not being enough. our inflation being paid enough. our inflation is being paid enough. our inflation rs-eesrs— being paid enough. our inflation rs-eesrs ure— being paid enough. our inflation is-costs are up.- being paid enough. our inflation is costs are up. living is up. food costs are up. living eesrs— is up. food costs are up. living eese-anu— is up. food costs are up. living eesrs-nnu n— is up. food costs are up. living costs-and if you- is up. food costs are up. living costs _and if you want is up. food costs are up. living. costs _and if you want to costs are up. and if you want to talk about being wasted, talk about money being wasted, let's about let's talk let's talk about ppe. let's talk about said, yeah, about mps. having said, yeah, i agree lot of agree with that about a lot of money being wasted and at the end of the day, we want the end of the day, we want do the people britain deserve an nhs people of britain deserve an nhs that can on? but this is that we can rely on? but this is the way to go about it? no, no coordinated strike. is that really to go it? really the way to go about it? emily think it is. what emily i don't think it is. what i emily i don't think it is. what r ureure— emily i don't think it is. what r neuru ser— emily i don't think it is. what r neuru sey rs— emily i don't think it is. what i would say is to— emily i don't think it is. what i would say is to the point on pension— i would say is to the point on pension contributions, they are very— very generous compared to the average— very generous compared to the evenere-n— very generous compared to the average-in the- very generous compared to the average in the private average worker in the private seeenr — average worker in the private sector. normally— average worker in the private sector. n c 55143 average worker in the private sector. n 55143 "

average worker in the private sector. n s " sector. normally about 5% in the private sector, about 20% contributions . i contributions in the nhs. i think a good compromise would be to say to nhs workers would you forego some of your pension in order to have more up front pay at least for a few years while you're trying to get on the property ladder or trying to, you progress your 20 you know, progress in your 20 seconds seconds? ithink seconds and 30 seconds? i think that some-staff— seconds and 30 seconds? i think that some-staff would - f: fr: 30 f:�* i think that some staff would say, that some nhs staff would say, ueruunu— that some nhs staff would say, eeruunu r— that some nhs staff would say, actually, i would— that some nhs staff would say, actually, i would that so actually, i would do that so rnur— actually, i would do that so murmure— actually, i would do that so rnurlneve u— actually, i would do that so that have a higher pay up that i have a higher pay up nonn— that i have a higher pay up front-think- that i have a higher pay up front. think they'll say front. i don't think they'll say rnur. — front. i don't think they'll say rnur. ithink— front. i don't think they'll say that. ithink they_ front. i don't think they'll say that. ithink they want- front. i don't think they'll say that. ithink they want and that. i think they want more and more and more. i've got to say thank so much. narinder kaur thank you so much. narinder kaur good you. juliet good to talk to you. juliet taylor thank much. and taylor thank you very much. and also carver. emily also emily carver. but emily will saturday will be part of the saturday five. going to tell five. she's going to tell us what's on. what's what's going on. so what's happening? you'll start the show is 8:00. talking is on at eight, 8:00. talking about is on at eight, 8:00. talking eueur ne— is on at eight, 8:00. talking eueur er— is on at eight, 8:00. talking about me, of course,- 0" g 8 00 talking about me, of course, darren errnes— about me, of course, darren grimes, benjamin butterworth. wne— grimes, benjamin butterworth. wno-nure— grimes, benjamin butterworth. who albie amankona . and we who else? albie amankona. and we neve— who else? albie amankona. and we neve u— who else? albie amankona. and we neve e sneerur— who else? albie amankona. and we have a special guest,— who else? albie amankona. and we have a special guest, which is uenrnrnue— have a special guest, which is dominique by dominique samuel. she's back by popular— dominique samuel. she's back by penurur-. — dominique samuel. she's back by penurur-. r— dominique samuel. she's back by penurur-. r wru- dominique samuel. she's back by popular-. i will be- popular demand. i will be actually— popular demand. i will be actually talking a little bit more about the nhs, about these doctor the doctor strikes, about the nursing , giving my well doctor strikes, about the nupennies , giving my well doctor strikes, about the nupennies a , giving my well doctor strikes, about the nupennies a little ving my well doctor strikes, about the nupennies a little moreny well doctor strikes, about the nupennies a little more thanzll to pennies a little more than i've now. we'll be i've said right now. we'll be getting i've said right now. we'll be gerrrng-rnur- i've said right now. we'll be. getting-that-lots getting stuck into that and lots of getting stuck into that and lots or erner— getting stuck into that and lots or one ner— getting stuck into that and lots of other hot topics. fabulous.

neru— of other hot topics. fabulous. were-nonn— of other hot topics. fabulous. well,-won't want- of other hot topics. fabulous. well, won't want to miss well, you won't want to miss rnur. — well, you won't want to miss rnur. run-s— well, you won't want to miss that. that's on— well, you won't want to miss that. that's on an- well, you won't want to miss that. 8 00 well, you won't want to miss that. 3 00 that. that's on an 8:00 on saturday, five on gb news. i'm nana this is gb news. nana covid. this is gb news. we're online on we're live on tv, online and on digital radio on the way. we will continue great will continue with the great british debate hour. i'm british debate this hour. i'm asking royal of asking are the royal college of nurses greedy ? what are nurses being greedy? what are the thoughts of my panel? lizzie cundy also dalla? but cundy and also sam dalla? but first, your latest cundy and also sam dalla? but first, headlinesour latest cundy and also sam dalla? but first, headlines .ur latest cundy and also sam dalla? but first, headlines. nanazst cundy and also sam dalla? but first, headlines. nana thank you news headlines. nana thank you and good afternoon.— news headlines. nana thank you and good afternoon. this- : na"? thank you and good afternoon. this is the nuresr— and good afternoon. this is the nuresr fren— and good afternoon. this is the latest from the— and good afternoon. this is the latest from the gb— and good afternoon. this is the latest from the gb news room. sene— latest from the gb news room. sene breaking— latest from the gb news room. some breaking news. first, as you-re— some breaking news. first, as you-re r-usr— some breaking news. first, as you've just been— some breaking news. first, as you've just been hearing this neur— you've just been hearing this noun-er— you've just been hearing this noun-er rne- you've just been hearing this hour, of the grand hour, the start of the grand nurrener— hour, the start of the grand national delayed hour, the start of the grand- national-delayed-short hour, the start of the grand nation after delayed short hour, the start of the grand nation after animaled short hour, the start of the grand nation after animal rights short period after animal rights preresrers— period after animal rights protesters entered the course at nnrree. — protesters entered the course at nnrree. ns— protesters entered the course at aintree. it's after— protesters entered the course at aintree. it's after three people were arrested _ aintree. it's after three people were arrested earlier today on suspicion— were arrested earlier today on suspicion er— were arrested earlier today on suspicion of conspiracy to cause pursue— suspicion of conspiracy to cause pursue nursenee— suspicion of conspiracy to cause pursue .— suspicion of conspiracy to cause public nuisance . as public nuisance. as demonstrators say the race is erueu — demonstrators say the race is erueu nun— demonstrators say the race is cruel. with 60— demonstrators say the race is cruel. with 60 horses dying at the cruel. with 60 horses dying at rne reerur— cruel. with 60 horses dying at the festival in— cruel. with 60 horses dying at the festival in the— cruel. with 60 horses dying at the festival in the past 23 years— the festival in the past 23 years ,— the festival in the past 23 years , rne— the festival in the past 23 years , the government is under years, the government is under pressure re— years, the government is under pressure to prevent the most errerne— pressure to prevent the most extreme nurses— pressure to prevent the most extreme nurses strike yet, which

it extreme nurses strike yet, which n says— extreme nurses strike yet, which n says rs— extreme nurses strike yet, which n says rs deeply— extreme nurses strike yet, which it says is deeply concerning for nurrenrs— it says is deeply concerning for nurrenrs .— it says is deeply concerning for nurrenrs . aer— it says is deeply concerning for patients . a&e cancer unit and patients. a&e cancer unit and rnrensne— patients. a&e cancer unit and intensive care— patients. a&e cancer unit and intensive care will be affected for intensive care will be affected fer ne— intensive care will be affected fer ne nrsr— intensive care will be affected for the first time— intensive care will be affected for the first time after royal cenege — for the first time after royal cenege er— for the first time after royal college of nursing members voted ugernsr— college of nursing members voted ugurnsr ne— college of nursing members voted against the latest— college of nursing members voted against the latest pay offer. thev'll— against the latest pay offer. they'll nern— against the latest pay offer. they'll walk out for 48 hours ne — they'll walk out for 48 hours ne mav— they'll walk out for 48 hours over the may day bank holiday weekend.— over the may day bank holiday weekend. members of unison , weekend. members of unison, wnisn— weekend. members of unison, which represents— weekend. members of unison, which represents health workers , rneruurne— which represents health workers , including some— which represents health workers , including some nurses overwhelming backed the deal . overwhelming backed the deal. the overwhelming backed the deal. ne surren— overwhelming backed the deal. the shadow armed forces minister has the shadow armed forces minister nus reru— the shadow armed forces minister nus ren en— the shadow armed forces minister has told gb news— the shadow armed forces minister has told gb news victims of nuse— has told gb news victims of nuse unu— has told gb news victims of abuse and bullying in westminster are repeatedly being let westminster are repeatedly being ner nun. — westminster are repeatedly being let down. speaking to gloria de nero— let down. speaking to gloria de nere ,— let down. speaking to gloria de nere , nuke— let down. speaking to gloria de piero , luke pollard described piero, luke pollard described the commons— piero, luke pollard described the commons as— piero, luke pollard described the commons as the most unprofessional— the commons as the most unprofessional workplace he's ever encountered— unprofessional workplace he's ever encountered and says a nine— ever encountered and says a nine eye— ever encountered and says a nine eve rs— ever encountered and says a blind eye is being turned to nreuerers— blind eye is being turned to predators around parliament. the mp predators around parliament. the n resenn— predators around parliament. the mp recently announced he'll step unen— mp recently announced he'll step been fren— mp recently announced he'll step back from politics— mp recently announced he'll step back from politics pro protesters _ back from politics pro protesters have gathered in uenuen-s— protesters have gathered in london's trafalgar square to reru— london's trafalgar square to runy ugurnsr— london's trafalgar square to rally against the expansion of the rally against the expansion of ne unru— rally against the expansion of the ultra low— rally against the expansion of the ultra low emission zone. if it the ultra low emission zone. if n eees— the ultra low emission zone. if n gees need.— the ultra low emission zone. if it goes ahead. drivers in ereurer— it goes ahead. drivers in greater london will have to pay

ere-so— greater london will have to pay ere-so u— greater london will have to pay ere-so a day— greater london will have to pay ere-so a dry n— greater london will have to pay £12.50 a day if their vehicles £i2.50 a day if their vehicles een-r— £12.50 a day if their vehicles een-r neer— £12.50 a day if their vehicles don't meet emission standards. rne— don't meet emission standards. five conservative— don't meet emission standards. five conservative led councils nure— five conservative led councils have launched _ five conservative led councils have launched legal action ugernsr— have launched legal action ugurnsr ne— have launched legal action against the plans tv online on user — against the plans tv online on user redre— against the plans tv online on dab+ radio and— against the plans tv online on dab+ radio and on tune in. this is en— dab+ radio and on tune in. this is en news.— dab+ radio and on tune in. this is gb news. now— dab+ radio and on tune in. this is gb news. now it's back to nune— is gb news. now it's back to nenu .— is gb news. now it's back to nana . thankyou,_ is gb news. now it's back to nana . thankyou, tatianna . nana. thankyou, tatianna. stay rnn— nana. thankyou, tatianna. stay unn us— nana. thankyou, tatianna. stay unn us on— nana. thankyou, tatianna. stay unn us en en— nana. thankyou, tatianna. stay with us on gb news— nana. thankyou, tatianna. stay with us on gb news lots more still to come . the great british still to come. the great british debate is on the way. i'm asking are the royal college of nursing members being greedy now? the rcn rejected a 5% pay rise rcn have rejected a 5% pay rise offer which other groups have accepted are they being simply greedy? what do you think ? greedy? what do you think? coming back after this .

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joined me, welcome on board. this is gb news. we are the people's channel. don't forget, you can also stream us live on youtube or download the gb news app youtube or download the gb news app for free. i'm nana akua . now app for free. i'm nana akua. now it's app for free. i'm nana akua. now wsfime app for free. i'm nana akua. now it's time though, for our great british debate this hour. and i'm are the royal college i'm asking are the royal college of members being greedy? of nursing members being greedy? yesterday, members yesterday, the rcn members rejected the government's pay offer walking out on wards offer after walking out on wards . on the table was the 5% pay rise that was for 2023 to 2024. and a one off cash payment of at least £1,655 to top up the past year's salary . now, members of year's salary. now, members of unison, which includes some nurses and ambulance crews , have nurses and ambulance crews, have accepted the pay offer. but members of the rcn will go on strike once again over the may bank holiday. so i'm asking, are the royal college of nursing members greedy? well let's members being greedy? well let's see my panel make of that. see what my panel make of that. i'm joined by broadcast columnist cundy and also columnist lizzie cundy and also political commentator sam dowler . being greedy? . sam, are they being greedy? look 5, most people don't get off that. no, i know. but look, ner-s— off that. no, i know. but look, ner-s essr— off that. no, i know. but look, ner-s eusr eur— off that. no, i know. but look, let's cast our minds- no, i know. but look, let's cast our minds back to the pandemic— let's cast our minds back to the pandemic .— let's cast our minds back to the pandemic . boris— let's cast our minds back to the pandemic . boris johnson, outside

pandemic. boris johnson, outside number— pandemic. boris johnson, outside nunner ro— pandemic. boris johnson, outside number 10 banging on pots like nese— number 10 banging on pots like nese were— number 10 banging on pots like these were these— number 10 banging on pots like these were these were people who were-neu— these were these were people who were-nen-ne- were putting their lives on the une— were putting their lives on the nne nr— were putting their lives on the nne fer — were putting their lives on the line for us. and,— were putting their lives on the line for us. and, you know, like nep— line for us. and, you know, like snoo orkers— line for us. and, you know, like shop workers as— line for us. and, you know, like shop workers as well, and journonsrs— shop workers as well, and journalists and. no, no, no, because— journalists and. no, no, no, because new— journalists and. no, no, no, because they they were dealing wnn — because they they were dealing wnn oeooke — because they they were dealing with people who— because they they were dealing with people who actually had cowo— with people who actually had covrn ono— with people who actually had covm and they_ with people who actually had covid and they could have got cowo— covid and they could have goti covid—drivers covid shop workers and drivers ono— covid shop workers and drivers one-wkers— covid shop workers and drivers and-drivers-as- covid shop workers and drivers and drivers as well. and taxi drivers died as well. knu— and taxi drivers died as well. ann-urwers— and taxi drivers died as well. and-drivers died- and taxi drivers died as well. and drivers died well. and bus drivers died as well. so,— and bus drivers died as well. solneon— and bus drivers died as well. so,imean,-know,- and bus drivers died as well. so,imean,-know, i- and bus drivers died as well. so, mean, know, i agree. so, i mean, you know, i agree. nur— so, i mean, you know, i agree. our-r— so, i mean, you know, i agree. our-r neon— so, i mean, you know, i agree. but-i mean, this- so, i mean, you know, i agree. but-i mean, this is- so, i mean, you know, i agree. but i mean, this is this is but like i mean, this is this is our-wou— but like i mean, this is this is our-you know- but like i mean, this is this is our-you know ,- but like i mean, this is this is our-you know , i. but like i mean, this is this is our you know , i find but like i mean, this is this is. our-you know , i find it our nhs. we, you know, i find it so ourroeeous— our nhs. we, you know, i find it so outrageous that— our nhs. we, you know, i find it so outrageous that we can't in nononn— so outrageous that we can't in seorkonu, for— so outrageous that we can't in scotland, for example , there's scotland, for example, there's no stes— scotland, for example, there's no stes n— scotland, for example, there's no strikes in scotland because new-we— no strikes in scotland because they've offered _ no strikes in scotland because they've offered a— no strikes in scotland because they've offered a 6.5 or a 7.5 pav— they've offered a 6.5 or a 7.5 pow nse— they've offered a 6.5 or a 7.5 pow ono— they've offered a 6.5 or a 7.5 pay rise and they've accepted it. pay rise and they've accepted n. nur— pay rise and they've accepted n. our our— pay rise and they've accepted it. but but here— pay rise and they've accepted it. but but here we can't seem to it. but but here we can't seem no no— it. but but here we can't seem no no nor. — it. but but here we can't seem to do that. and— it. but but here we can't seem to do that. and then and then wnen— to do that. and then and then wnen wou— to do that. and then and then wnen you kook— to do that. and then and then when you look at— to do that. and then and then when you look at like rishi sunak,— when you look at like rishi sunak, example, the when you look at like rishi- sunak,.example,-the and sunak, for example, and the and the sunak, for example, and the and ne-wosroee — sunak, for example, and the and the _wastage that- sunak, for example, and the and the wastage that they the and the wastage that they the and the wastage that they ne-nor— the and the wastage that they the _that -wasted i the billions that they wasted on, on, on, on ppe that didn't work. — on, on, on, on ppe that didn't work. so— on, on, on, on ppe that didn't work. so they're— on, on, on, on ppe that didn't work. so they're like or, or nsnr — work. so they're like or, or even rishi sunak's wife who took like even rishi sunak's wife who took nke ro— even rishi sunak's wife who took like 10 million— even rishi sunak's wife who took like 10 million in— even rishi sunak's wife who took like 10 million in dividends wnren— like 10 million in dividends which could— like 10 million in dividends which could pay, which could pay for-ne— which could pay, which could pay for-ne nus— which could pay, which could pay for-ne nus n— which could pay, which could pay for the nhs in itself. i for all the nhs in itself. i nke— for all the nhs in itself. i mean like it's— for all the nhs in itself. i mean like it's the dichotomy nerween—woui mean like it's the dichotomy- between,_you know, between, between what you know, wnn— between, between what you know, nor-ore— between, between what you know, wnor-ore saving— between, between what you know, what are saying what what they are saying and what the what they are saying and what ne—wonr- what they are saying and what ne—wonr on- what they are saying and what the _want on the|

the actual nurses want on the ground— the actual nurses want on the ground-rs— the actual nurses want on the ground is outrageous . so ground is, is, is outrageous. so new— ground is, is, is outrageous. so new snoun— ground is, is, is outrageous. so they should whatever they they should get whatever they won. — they should get whatever they won. _wou— they should get whatever they want.-you can't- they should get whatever they want. you can't get want. i think you can't get wnorewer— want. i think you can't get whatever-so- want. i think you can't get. whatever- so we'll want. i think you can't get- whatever- so we'll have want. i think you can't get- wrecession. _so we'll have want. i think you can't get wrecession. 4:3. so we'll have want. i think you can't get wrecession. /r:::r.

daily basis. i mean, we all are saving us on a daily on a daily basis . i mean, we all know daily basis. i mean, we all know the daily basis. i mean, we all know ne—wen— daily basis. i mean, we all know ne—wen-newl daily basis. i mean, we all know. the _well-they can't the nhs. we well and they can't go on strike. they do. they, they basis us they put their daily basis us they say they don't save they don't say they don't save our on a daily basis. our lives on a daily basis. they don't. i've just said i've got sympathy. but if we got every sympathy. but if we give _whatever- got every sympathy. but if we give _whatever they - 91:4 3 saw but if we give whatever they want give them whatever they want wnw— give them whatever they want wnwl— give them whatever they want wnn- kook— give them whatever they want willy , look what's willy nilly, look at what's happening— happening in the whole world. we-n— happening in the whole world. we'll-recession. - happening in the whole world. we'll recession. i'm we'll be in a recession. i'm rokkrne—r-n- we'll be in a recession. i'm. talking—i'm talking talking about that. i'm talking nour— talking about that. i'm talking aboutldifference_ talking about that. i'm talking about difference between 5% about a difference between 5% one—wew- about a difference between 5%i and—well, rishi and 6.1. acceptable. well, rishi needs— and 6.1. acceptable. well, rishi needs-round— and 6.1. acceptable. well, rishi needs-round-table. needs to get round the table loosen— needs to get round the table now, - accept that - needs to get round the table now, accept that they now, not accept that they might not now, not accept that they might nor-nor. — now, not accept that they might not-that. listen,- now, not accept that they might not-that. listen, now,l now, not accept that they might not : 1“ now, not accept that they might not : : now, not accept that they might not the government should have acted sooner government have got sooner. the government have got to sooner. the government have got ro-rouno— sooner. the government have got ro-rouno ne— sooner. the government have got to-round the table— the government have got to round the table asap to get round the table asap and do to get round the table asap and no ns— to get round the table asap and no nks . — to get round the table asap and no nks. now.— to get round the table asap and do this . now, listen,- to get round the table asap and do this . now, listen, i- to get round the table asap and do this. nr1;.rnn : do this. now, listen, i think actually this is what i would do if it was me, because i do . i if it was me, because i do. i actually i'm incensed that when politicians, when people say politicians, when people say politicians paid politicians aren't being paid enough they're being paid enough yet, they're being paid £86,000. more £86,000. i think that's more than enough. would than enough. and i would actually to see nurses actually like to see nurses being lot more. so that's being paid a lot more. so that's where it's not where i stand with it. it's not right they're paid such right that they're paid such a small amount of money. it's such a that they do. small amount of money. it's such a i that they do. small amount of money. it's such a i don't that they do. small amount of money. it's such a i don't believe they do. small amount of money. it's such a i don't believe that do. small amount of money. it's such a i don't believe that the way but i don't believe that the way to get that is through striking. but i don't believe that the way trthinkthat is through striking. but i don't believe that the way t

have scrapped the nhs and started again. i'd have started again wrong. again because it's all wrong. it's trying to put it's they're trying to put a plaster on it and on a gaping artery, which is not going to work going work and just going to keep chucking after chucking more bad money after good but but, good money after bad. but but, but not just that. i would pay them more. but i'd also say you forego to strike forego your right to strike and i'd bursaries to i'd put money in bursaries to improve that, you know, and i'd make sure the nurses don't have to pay for because they to pay for that because they shouldn't. they've all shouldn't. but what they've all said forego said they would have to forego their to strike. well, their right to strike. well, they've all said is- ” ” g well, they've all said is that the srrrkrne— they've all said is that the striking .the _ they've all said is that the striking the resort, the striking is the last resort, the kosr— striking is the last resort, the noe—or— striking is the last resort, the kosr—or nem- striking is the last resort, the. last—of them these last resort. none of them these nese— last resort. none of them these nese-oeooke- last resort. none of them these these-people who- last resort. none of them these these people who are these these are people who are coring.— these these are people who are sorrng. new— these these are people who are caring. they-want- these these are people who are caring. they want to caring. they obviously want to do caring. they obviously want to uo-ions— caring. they obviously want to uo-r-okrs nur— caring. they obviously want to do-jobs, but they- caring. they obviously want to do jobs, but they but do these jobs, but they but new-re—oonl do these jobs, but they but- they're_paid enough. they're not getting paid enough. so—ka.- they're not getting paid enough. so—ka. newl so this is their last will. they won-r— so this is their last will. they won-r new— so this is their last will. they won't they don't— so this is their last will. they won't they don't want to do nis— won't they don't want to do nks. — won't they don't want to do nks. .know.— won't they don't want to do. this. .know, grasping it's this. you know, grasping it's the a total urgent the nhs needs a total urgent reform the problem. reform. that's the problem. that's problem . and they that's the problem. and they have working have got terrible working conditions and the shift work gets more than just gets so much more than just the wages. the nhs is a wages. but the nhs is a shambolic mess and if you mention it, you know you are. it's like a political football. we're not allowed. well, i said scrap we're not allowed. well, i said seroo n— we're not allowed. well, i said seroo n onu— we're not allowed. well, i said seroo n one you— we're not allowed. well, i said scrap it and you should- �*nsn: ”r: : well, i said scrap it and you should have ne— scrap it and you should have seen the abuse— scrap it and you should have seen the abuse got. but

seen the abuse i got. but i rnrnk— seen the abuse i got. but i nnk wou— seen the abuse i got. but i think you should. i just want to say think you should. i just want to sow onu— think you should. i just want to soy and nor-s— think you should. i just want to say and that's not— think you should. i just want to say and that's not being norrnne. — say and that's not being horrible. think that horrible. i just think that seno— horrible. i just think that sene-non- horrible. i just think that scrap start again. it's scrap it and start again. it's nke— scrap it and start again. it's nke o— scrap it and start again. it's nke o-nke— scrap it and start again. it's like a like house. you like a it's like a house. you nnk— like a it's like a house. you nnk-iusr- like a it's like a house. you think, just going to think, oh, i'm just going to nuno— think, oh, i'm just going to build-house- think, oh, i'm just going to- build-house-already build this house that's already you know.— build this house that's already you know, ramshackle thing that you know, ramshackle thing that you—ro- you know, ramshackle thing that you—no repairl you think you're going to repair ono— you think you're going to repair one—spending- and you end up spending more money—n.- money trying to repair it. i r-n— money trying to repair it. i m sorry.— money trying to repair it. i see. i'm sorry-it- money trying to repair it. i see. i'm sorry. it down. see. i'm sorry. knock it down. sron— see. i'm sorry. knock it down. non-we— see. i'm sorry. knock it down. start-we need- see. i'm sorry. knock it down. start-we need to- see. i'm sorry. knock it down. start we need to start start again. we need to start again — start again. we need to start again ns— start again. we need to start ogorn. n-sr-usr— start again. we need to start again. it'sjust not start again. we need to start again. it's just not working. it is. again. it's just not working. it rs.|nnk— again. it's just not working. it is.ithink there's— again. it's just not working. it is.ithink there's i- again. it's just not working. it is. think there's i think is. i think there's i think onwousw— is. i think there's i think obviously-are- is. i think there's i think obviously are a is. i think there's i think obviously-are a of obviously there are a lot of oronens— obviously there are a lot of problems-the- obviously there are a lot of. problems-the-like, obviously there are a lot of- problems-the-like, you problems with the nhs. like, you know.— problems with the nhs. like, you know, new virus,— problems with the nhs. like, you know, new virus, more numerous accounts. obviously know, new virus, more numerous accounts. it obviously know, new virus, more numerous accounts. it would obviously know, new virus, more numerous accounts. it would obmean,’ scrapping it would be i mean, it's terrible long term, but also it is ingrained. also but also it is ingrained. it in the is ingrained in it is in the nhs is ingrained in british culture. like, it is in the nhs is ingrained in britiknow,ture. like, it is in the nhs is ingrained in britiknow, i'm like, it is in the nhs is ingrained in britiknow, i'm not like, it is in the nhs is ingrained in britiknow, i'm not saying;e, you know, i'm not saying it should of, i'm should be really proud of, i'm not that you wouldn't put not saying that you wouldn't put something in its place. i'm just saying that-premise- something in its place. i'm just saying that-premise that. saying that the premise that it ensrs — saying that the premise that it ensrs -nee — saying that the premise that it exists, _free .the - exists, that it's free at the porn— exists, that it's free at the porn-neen.— exists, that it's free at the point need, these other point of need, all these other neonn— point of need, all these other health services— point of need, all these other health services that people are ouong— health services that people are ouonng—nonei quoting are australia. so none of quoting are australia. so none or-eonokerew- of those are completely free. nor-s— of those are completely free. i nor-s—kno that's why they're so good. and arso— that's why they're so good. and also-nonr— that's why they're so good. and okso-uon-r oo- that's why they're so good. and also,-don't do a- that's why they're so good. and also, don't do a good also, if they don't do a good job,— also, if they don't do a good ion-eon— also, if they don't do a good job,-can actually- also, if they don't do a good job, can actually sue them job, you can actually sue them one— job, you can actually sue them one nere-s— job, you can actually sue them and there's some— job, you can actually sue them and there's some way of some .nks— and there's some way of some recourse.-this is- and there's some way of some recourse. this is monolith and there's some way of some rec0|is.e. this is monolith and there's some way of some rec0|is not this is monolith and there's some way of some rec0|is not with is is monolith and there's some way of some rec0|is not with the monolith and there's some way of some rec0|is not with the times. |olith and there's some way of some rec0|is not with the times. it'sh that is not with the times. it's nor— that is not with the times. it's nor-n— that is not with the times. it's not-in current- that is not with the times. it's not-in current day.- not keeping in current day. nor-s— not keeping in current day. that's—aren't. not keeping in current day. . that's—aren't paid that's why people aren't paid properly— that's why people aren't paid properly-ne— that's why people aren't paid properly the private properly in the private sector. nese— properly in the private sector.| nese—nur these nurses will be paid, but you— these nurses will be paid, but you eonnon — these nurses will be paid, but you cannot. but— these nurses will be paid, but you cannot. 1“ these nurses will be paid, but you cannot. 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know, getting know, if you're not getting looked after, you're your own son being after, son is not being looked after, intensive an intensive care if you're an a&e and had a really serious and you've had a really serious accident, you're still there. 19 hours your hours not being seen. your sympathy will ebb and the sympathy will ebb away and the nurses will lose that. and the thing know, doctor thing is, you know, doctor lawson, co chair of the bma lawson, the co chair of the bma junior committee , i junior doctors committee, i mean, when off on holiday , they mean, when off on holiday, they were still getting paid while the strikes were going. he booked wedding. he booked it for a wedding. he thought ahead, you l he thought ahead, you know , the thought ahead, you know, the stes— thought ahead, you know, the strikes that _ thought ahead, you know, the strikes that he _ thought ahead, you know, the strikes that he helped to nsnone— strikes that he helped to instigate-he- strikes that he helped to instigate. he he strikes that he helped to. instigate.-he he was strikes that he helped to- instigate.-he he was on instigate. but yet he he was on runw— instigate. but yet he he was on fully poro— instigate. but yet he he was on fully paid leave.— instigate. but yet he he was on fully paid leave. right. let's orrne— fully paid leave. right. let's bring n— fully paid leave. right. let's bring in some— fully paid leave. right. let's bring in some of— fully paid leave. right. let's bring in some of our great nrnsn— bring in some of our great british voices— bring in some of our great british voices and get their wews— british voices and get their views-topics- british voices and get their. views _topics we're views on on the topics we're nseussrne. — views on on the topics we're discussing. joining me is alan neneen— discussing. joining me is alan neneen n— discussing. joining me is alan mcneely in grimsby, julie ford in bedfordshire, olivia parry in surrey.— in bedfordshire, olivia parry in surrevr_mugliai in bedfordshire, olivia parry in. surrey,_muglia in surrey, and dr. ashley muglia in nnron— surrey, and dr. ashley muglia in nnron kewnes— surrey, and dr. ashley muglia in milton keynes. i— surrey, and dr. ashley muglia in milton keynes. i don't like this ononernener— milton keynes. i don't like this arrangement-this- milton keynes. i don't like this arrangement this long row. arrangement in this long row. i nke— arrangement in this long row. i nke-wnn— arrangement in this long row. i like .with-square- arrangement in this long row. i like-with-square .- arrangement in this long row. i like with square . i like this with the square. i non-r— like this with the square. i oonn-ne— like this with the square. i don't-the what- like this with the square. i don't the what the hell's don't like the what the hell's going— don't like the what the hell's gong-nonre— don't like the what the hell's going right? this is all going on, right? this is all wrong — going on, right? this is all wrong ns— going on, right? this is all wrong. it's like— going on, right? this is all wrong. it's like people standing in wrong. it's like people standing rn-r-n— wrong. it's like people standing rn-r-n going— wrong. it's like people standing rn-r-n gorng ro- wrong. it's like people standing in i'm going to start in a line. i'm going to start wnn— in a line. i'm going to start with stephanie— in a line. i'm going to start with stephanie she's with stephanie because she's a neon— with stephanie because she's a uoeror. _wnnl doctor. stephanie okay, what do you—vou- doctor. stephanie okay, what do| you—you nknke you think? what do you think? eseu— you think? what do you think? eson—nonn- you think? what do you think? good - nana inaya - you think? what do you think? good - nana inaya .- you think? what do you think? i good-nana inaya . no good afternoon. nana inaya. no way. nurses are way. think that nurses are nurses as we saw during the

covid are the backbone of the nhs and our nhs cannot work without the nurses on a personal and professional level. working with nurses , seeing the with nurses, seeing the compassionate care that they provide day in and day out . it's provide day in and day out. it's clear that nurses are going on strike because they are feeling undervalued and underpaid and they are understaffed . and steve they are understaffed. and steve mbappe they are understaffed. and steve nnugge nsnr— they are understaffed. and steve mbappe rishi sunak— they are understaffed. and steve mbappe rishi sunak and- en”: l. 3: and steve mbappe rishi sunak and the gowernnenr— mbappe rishi sunak and the government needs to meet the demands— government needs to meet the demands or— government needs to meet the demands of the— government needs to meet the demands of the rcn. so nurses are demands of the rcn. so nurses nor— demands of the rcn. so nurses are not greedy . okay,- demands of the rcn. en”: gummy okay, let's demands of the rcn. 311i: gummy okay, let's go are not greedy. okay, let's go to are not greedy. okay, let's go no onwa— are not greedy. okay, let's go to olivia himars. _ ”ne: gummy okay, let's go to olivia himars. we'll do it in a to olivia himars. we'll do it in o no — to olivia himars. we'll do it in o no so— to olivia himars. we'll do it in a line. so there— to olivia himars. we'll do it in a line. so there on— to olivia himars. we'll do it in a line. so there on the line. nis— a line. so there on the line. rnrs rs— a line. so there on the line. this is really— a line. so there on the line. this is really weird. everybody kook— this is really weird. everybody kook nor— this is really weird. everybody kook nor wow. — this is really weird. everybody look that way. and then the oner— look that way. and then the oner wow. — look that way. and then the other way. olivia you look nsokurew— other way. olivia you look absolutely fabulous . n/r:4. absolutely fabulous. you look fit absolutely fabulous. you look rn onu— absolutely fabulous. you look fit and healthy and doddie of what i stand for. because as you know , i'm a nutritionist and i'm know, i'm a nutritionist and i'm passionate about health. nobody goes into nursing to make money. you know, it's a vocation . they you know, it's a vocation. they do it because they care deeply about their patients and they want to save lives. but i think that i think they are underpaid.

i mean, i highly value them, like you. i mean, i nearly died and they saved me in intensive care . so you know what they do care. so you know what they do is a fantastic job. but i think things like, you know, maybe the student bursaries, why ? why do student bursaries, why? why do they have to pay for their education? they shouldn't. they shouldn't have to be written off. what about helping them with with healthy food, for example? i mean, here i live near epsom and during the pandemic , local companies gave pandemic, local companies gave nurses free vegetables and fruits. well, i mean, that's rusr— fruits. well, i mean, that's gusr sows— fruits. well, i mean, that's gusr sows ns— fruits. well, i mean, that's just says it's a— well, i mean, that's just says it's a state. this is an just says it's a state. this is on nsokure— just says it's a state. this is an absolute state- just says it's a state. this is an absolute state that that snoun— an absolute state that that snoun ne— an absolute state that that should be happening really, to be nonesr.— should be happening really, to be honest. julie— should be happening really, to be honest. julie julie in neurone— be honest. julie julie in bedford no,— be honest. julie julie in bedford no, no, no, no, no, no, nor— bedford no, no, no, no, no, no, nor one— bedford no, no, no, no, no, no, nor no— bedford no, no, no, no, no, no, no. not one. no no.- bedford no, no, no, no, no, no, no. not one. no no. julie in neuron.— no. not one. no no. julie in nenoro. no.— no. not one. no no. julie in bedford. no, no,— no. not one. no no. julie in bedford. no, no, no. julie in neuron.— bedford. no, no, no. julie in bedford. julie— bedford. no, no, no. julie in bedford. julie julie, speak. sowe— bedford. julie julie, speak. save me— bedford. julie julie, speak. save me from _ bedford. julie julie, speak. save me from this woman. i think p......rg,_ save me from this woman. i think personon .— save me from this woman. i think personally . rar— save me from this woman. i think personally , for me, i. i don't personally, for me, i. i don't think that they're paid enough, but i'm a little bit fed up of heafing but i'm a little bit fed up of hearing it should be the government has to keep fixing all of these things and the nhs get an awful lot of money and

they spend awful lot of that they spend an awful lot of that money badly. if they restructured system . so it restructured the system. so it was actually fit for purpose . was actually fit for purpose. you know, we know that when the nhs was started, you know, our life expected less and life expected was a lot less and everything like that. that has changed in society today. nurses are working a hell of a lot harder than they used to be and they should be recompense for that. but i don't that. absolutely. but i don't think striking like this a coordinate strike is the way to do it. and i really think a restructure of the nhs is a better way forward than relying solely on the government to keep plugging these gaps. alan mcneely afternoon. - plugging these gaps. alan mcneely afternoon. all nana i nlnk— mcneely afternoon. all nana i think they're just being unrealistic in their expected stations. they've got a reason aple— stations. they've got a reason able offer— stations. they've got a reason able offer given— stations. they've got a reason able offer given the- they've got a reason able offer given the conditions nar— able offer given the conditions nar ne— able offer given the conditions that the country— able offer given the conditions that the country is in. ”r: able offer given the conditions that the country is in. ' ”r: that the country is in. are they going— that the country is in. are they gorng ro— that the country is in. are they going to get better when maybe ever? so slightly. but the damage— ever? so slightly. but the damage that— ”7’ so slightly. but the damage that they're doing to panenrs— damage that they're doing to panenrs ana— damage that they're doing to patients and to— damage that they're doing to patients and to their own repurarlon — patients and to their own reputation, i— patients and to their own reputation, i think will be long lasng. — reputation, i think will be long laang. people— reputation, i think will be long lasting. people are not going to forge— lasting. people are not going to rorgwe nem— lasting. people are not going to forgive them for— lasting. people are not going to forgive them for this just the way— forgive them for this just the way nar— forgive them for this just the way that they're _ forgive them for this just the way that they're not going to

rorgwe — way that they're not going to forgive .junior_ way that they're not going to forgive junior doctors forgive the junior doctors for going— forgive the junior doctors for gorng our— forgive the junior doctors for gorng our ana— forgive the junior doctors for going out and strike. i know a lot or— going out and strike. i know a no or people— going out and strike. i know a lot of people who are very angry about what's going on because they're offering their treatment is delayed delayed and is being delayed and delayed and delayed. and is being delayed and delayed and delayed . and they're looking at delayed. and they're looking at people— delayed. and they're looking at people no— delayed. and they're looking at people no are— 3: and they're looking at people who are maybe :: and they're looking at people who are maybe as people who are maybe twice as nuan— people who are maybe twice as nuenlnen— people who are maybe twice as nuenlnen . — people who are maybe twice as much-them . alan- people who are maybe twice as much them . 1�* �*neonn: ”r: people who are maybe twice as- much .them . alan we're running much as them. alan we're running out of time. alan so, yes , out of time. alan so, yes, everybody wants more money. i just think they're being very unrealistic— just think they're being very unrealistic about it and they're lanagrng— unrealistic about it and they're lanagrng nem— unrealistic about it and they're damaging them mentally. alan nank— damaging them mentally. alan nank wou— damaging them mentally. alan nank you so— damaging them mentally. alan thank you so much. we- damaging them mentally. 3�*e

pacify the gender brigade. so panel . wnar— pacify the gender brigade. so panel, what do— pacify the gender brigade. so panel, what do you think of that rnnulous— panel, what do you think of that rnnulous .— panel, what do you think of that ridiculous . so— panel, what do you think of that ridiculous . so whether it's ridiculous. so whether it's pregnanr— ridiculous. so whether it's pregnanr or— ridiculous. so whether it's pregnant or not, he's not going, oh, pregnant or not, he's not going, on. ns— pregnant or not, he's not going, on. le ls— pregnant or not, he's not going, g. le ls lusr— pregnant or not, he's not going, oh, this is just ridiculous. nonesllw— oh, this is just ridiculous. honestly, .just - oh, this is just ridiculous. honestly,-just had- oh, this is just ridiculous. honestly, just had enough honestly, i've just had enough of totally it's like me of it. totally it's like me going for an advert for a beard trimmer, know, where it trimmer, you know, where does it stop? got the stop? you got. you've got the track. i didn't got to say track. yeah i didn't got to say that. you've got you let me do nan—ne- that. you've got you let me do that. _the track- that. you've got you let me doi that—the track now that. you've got the track now saying know , advertising saying you know, advertising tampons. it's just saying you know, advertising tampons. it'sjust so saying you know, advertising tampons. it's just so stupid . i tampons. it'sjust so stupid. i mean this is ridiculous because , mean this is ridiculous because i , mean this is ridiculous because , i mean, at the end of the day, if you're, if you're they have to have a generic questionnaire. so you if you through the so if you if you go through the questionnaire say, no, you, questionnaire and say, no, you, you strike, you're not you know, you strike, you're not pregnant. he pregnant. yes, i know. but he doesn't strike it. doesn't just just strike it. then making a then there's no point making a massive it. just say massive deal about it. just say you're not say you're not pregnant because it's same. pregnant because it's the same. it's same it's the same. it's the same thing for everybody. you just argue and saw— thing for everybody. you just argue and say that- thing for everybody. you just argue and say that a- 1g : you just argue and say that a man cannot get argue and say that a man cannot ger pregnanr. — argue and say that a man cannot ger pregnanr. nes— argue and say that a man cannot get pregnant. r:; 1g argue and say that a man cannot get pregnant. 1g get pregnant. he's making a mess of being of just he's just being ridiculous. that's enough. it's nne— ridiculous. that's enough. it's arm—gulp.- ridiculous. that's enough. it's| time—quiz. please time for my quick quiz. please play— time for my quick quiz. please play-none. - time for my quick quiz. please play-none. ne- time for my quick quiz. please play home. i've got play along at home. i've got nke— play along at home. i've got five questions.— play along at home. i've got five questions. here go. five questions. here we go. euesnon— five questions. here we go. question-oh,- five questions. here we go. question oh, no. sam dodi, question one. oh, no. sam dodi, your— question one. oh, no. sam dodi, your-please.— question one. oh, no. sam dodi, your please. quickly. your buzzer, please. quickly. usele— your buzzer, please. quickly. lizzie—frystonj your buzzer, please. quickly.- lizzie_fryston won lizzie cundy, right. fryston won a performed tricks on a bmx rider, performed tricks on floating state park. but how high up

floating state park. but how nrgn up n— floating state park. but how nrgn up n ne— floating state park. but how high up in the air— floating state park. but how high up in the air was- 1g but how high up in the air was he? was it, ar— high up in the air was he? was n. a. sooorre— high up in the air was he? was it, a, sooofl.7 b,— high up in the air was he? was it, a, 5000ft? b, 3300ft or c, zeeerre— it, a, 5000ft? b, 3300ft or c, 2000ft? lizzie _ it, a, 5000ft? b, 3300ft or c, 2000ft? lizzie cundy c, 2000ft. c 2000ft? lizzie cundy c, 2000ft. c zooorr. — 2000ft? lizzie cundy c, 2000ft. c zooorr. r— 2000ft? lizzie cundy c, 2000ft. c 2000ft. i was— 2000ft? lizzie cundy c, 2000ft. c 2000ft. i was going- 2000ft? lizzie cundy c, 2000ft. c 2000ft. 9: 19 2000ft? lizzie cundy c, 2000ft. c 2000ft. 9r:r 19 c 2000ft. i was going to say that i'm going to say 5000. it's c 2000ft. well done. in the ne— it's c 2000ft. well done. in the air. the balloon— it's c 2000ft. well done. in the air. the balloon set— it's c 2000ft. well done. in the air. the balloon set off from nornon— air. the balloon set off from chorlton park— air. the balloon set off from chorlton park estate and also new— chorlton park estate and also new so— chorlton park estate and also flew 30 miles— chorlton park estate and also flew 30 miles over the copthall wnne— flew 30 miles over the copthall while touching— flew 30 miles over the copthall while touching down. question 2a1 while touching down. question zkr wear— while touching down. question zkr year old— while touching down. question 2a1 year old australian shepherd dog 2a1 year old australian shepherd log wno— 2a1 year old australian shepherd log wno losr— 2a1 year old australian shepherd dog who lost its— 2a1 year old australian shepherd dog who lost its owner in alaska nas— dog who lost its owner in alaska nas rerurnel— dog who lost its owner in alaska has returned after— dog who lost its owner in alaska has returned after a mighty anenrure.— has returned after a mighty adventure. wow— has returned after a mighty adventure. wow just wonderful. but adventure. wow just wonderful. nur now— adventure. wow just wonderful. nur now na— adventure. wow just wonderful. but how far did— adventure. wow just wonderful. but how far did the dog travel to but how far did the dog travel ro ger— but how far did the dog travel ro ger naeke— but how far did the dog travel to get back? closest answer wins -nowler— to get back? closest answer wins -nowler a— to get back? closest answer wins .- dowler a 25,000 - to get back? closest answer wins . dowler a 25,000 miles. . sam dowler a 25,000 miles. usele— . sam dowler a 25,000 miles. lizzie buzzer— . sam dowler a 25,000 miles. lizzie buzzer 2720— . sam dowler a 25,000 miles. lizzie buzzer 2720 7000- . sam dowler a 25,000 miles. lizzie buzzer 2720 7000 miles. the answer is 150 miles. sorry anour— the answer is 150 miles. sorry anour nar— the answer is 150 miles. sorry anour nar .— the answer is 150 miles. sorry about that . totally wrong. so i about that. totally wrong. so i nlnk— about that. totally wrong. so i nlnk woure— about that. totally wrong. so i think you're do— about that. totally wrong. so i think you're do you the closest? no neauer— think you're do you the closest? no deduct points— think you're do you the closest? no deduct points both miles away rlgnr— no deduct points both miles away rlgnr .— no deduct points both miles away rlgnr . no— no deduct points both miles away right . 150 miles— no deduct points both miles away right . 150 miles actually. do right. 150 miles actually. do you— right. 150 miles actually. do you nave— right. 150 miles actually. do you nawe any— right. 150 miles actually. do you have any dogs? it's a hell of you have any dogs? it's a hell or a— you have any dogs? it's a hell or a journey. — you have any dogs? it's a hell or a journey. r— you have any dogs? it's a hell of a journey. 1en: of a journey. i have. i've had dogs before. i've had rescue dogs. i love. yes. no, hurry up. new— dogs. i love. yes. no, hurry up. new guesnon— dogs. i love. yes. no, hurry up. next question. i've— dogs. i love. yes. no, hurry up. next question. i've a- :9 yes. no, hurry up. next question. i've a dog now called— next question. i've a dog now called ripley- — next question. i've a dog now called ripley. .is- next question. i've a dog now called ripley. c1“ called ripley. she is a german shepherd and she's a beautiful, lovely. in germany, there are wenllng— in germany, there are new vending machines lovely. in germany, there are new vending machines up new vending machines popping up aoura—

around the country. but what do you—selllnge- around the country. but what do you—selling? the. you think they're selling? the a, you think they're selling? the n-nsrols— you think they're selling? the a, - pistols cheese, . a, b, b, sex pistols cheese, some sausages,— a, b, b, sex pistols cheese, some sausages, sausages. let's see-lis— some sausages, sausages. let's see..is sausages.— some sausages, sausages. let's see. is sausages. sausages? see. it is sausages. sausages? p...— see. it is sausages. sausages? wes ns— see. it is sausages. sausages? yes, it's sausages— see. it is sausages. sausages? yes, it's sausages .— see. it is sausages. sausages? yes, it's sausages . absolutely. yes, it's sausages. absolutely. lea-s— yes, it's sausages. absolutely. ler-s — yes, it's sausages. absolutely. let's see. question for an image on soelal— let's see. question for an image on soelal nenla— let's see. question for an image on social media gone viral after the on social media gone viral after ne raner— on social media gone viral after the father purchased his mishap. left the father purchased his mishap. len nrn — the father purchased his mishap. len nrn wnn— the father purchased his mishap. left him with few— the father purchased his mishap. left him with few too many reanlng— left him with few too many reading glasses. but how many glasses— reading glasses. but how many glasses nn— reading glasses. but how many glasses did he— reading glasses. but how many glasses did he mistakenly order? was— glasses did he mistakenly order? was n— glasses did he mistakenly order? was n k— glasses did he mistakenly order? was n a no.— glasses did he mistakenly order? was n a no. n.— glasses did he mistakenly order? was it a 20, b, 100— glasses did he mistakenly order? was it a 20, b, 100 or c, 60? usele— was it a 20, b, 100 or c, 60? llzzle cunlw— was it a 20, b, 100 or c, 60? lizzie cundy 100? - was it a 20, b, 100 or c, 60? lizzie cundy 100? �*00 was it a 20, b, 100 or c, 60? lizzie cundy100? �*00 was it a 20, b, 100 or c, 60? lizzie cundy 100? �*00 �*nene. :n::r lizzie cundy 100? 100. what do you think ? i'll take— lizzie cundy 100? 100. what do you think ? i'll take 100- lizzie cundy 100? �*00 �*nene. :n::r 7’ i'll take 100 as you think? i'll take 100 as well — you think? i'll take 100 as well zoo.— you think? i'll take 100 as well. 300. say something different just in case she's wrong. 60, 60. oh, you gave him that. that's helping thing. i sall— that. that's helping thing. i lel nose— that. that's helping thing. i still chose it— that. that's helping thing. i still chose it .— that. that's helping thing. i still chose it . i— that. that's helping thing. i still chose it . i still say it still chose it. i still say it one more time. he still chose it. i still say it one more time . he ordered 10 or one more time. he ordered 10 or 12 one more time. he ordered 10 or re paus— one more time. he ordered 10 or re pans aner— one more time. he ordered 10 or 12 pairs after reading— ».;.g; . he ordered 10 or 12 pairs after reading the guaner— 12 pairs after reading the guaner n— 12 pairs after reading the quantity in the order. now, nnallw— quantity in the order. now, finally, final— quantity in the order. now, finally, final question. now i need— finally, final question. now i need ro— finally, final question. now i need no go— finally, final question. now i neen no go no— finally, final question. now i need to go to specsavers. now, aner— need to go to specsavers. now, are an— need to go to specsavers. now, after an earlier— need to go to specsavers. now, after an earlier disruption, the grana— after an earlier disruption, the grand national— after an earlier disruption, the grand national did end up going nearl— grand national did end up going anean nur— grand national did end up going ahead, but was— grand national did end up going ahead, but was this year's winner noble— ahead, but was this year's winner noble yeats, true or false— winner noble yeats, true or false e— winner noble yeats, true or false ? lizzie— winner noble yeats, true or false ? lizzie cundy true , it's false? lizzie cundy true, it's nue— false? lizzie cundy true, it's rrue. r-n— false? lizzie cundy true, it's true. i'm telling— false? lizzie cundy true, it's true. i'm telling true again. sav— true. i'm telling true again. say something— true. i'm telling true again. say something different. both

it's say something different. both n-s false— say something different. both n-s ralse .— say something different. both it's false . hold— say something different. both it's false . hold on. it's false. hold on. what was obvious helping didn't help. i don't know. the answers either. nur— don't know. the answers either. nur r— don't know. the answers either. nur r mean— don't know. the answers either. nur r wou— don't know. the answers either. but i mean, you would think you-n— but i mean, you would think you-n use— but i mean, you would think you-n your— but i mean, you would think you'd use your common sense, mr. nowlen— you'd use your common sense, mr. nowler. well— you'd use your common sense, mr. nowler. well wes.— you'd use your common sense, mr. dowler. well yes. i'm— you'd use your common sense, mr. dowler. well yes. i'm just going to dowler. well yes. i'm just going pa_.a,_ dowler. well yes. i'm just going pa_.a, r-n- dowler. well yes. i'm just going ro—no. r-n gorngi to pick the wrong no, i'm going to pick the wrong no, i'm going ro prek— to pick the wrong no, i'm going ro plek ne— to pick the wrong no, i'm going to pick the opposite, lizzie. we snouln— to pick the opposite, lizzie. we should—don't- to pick the opposite, lizzie. wei should—don't know should do anyway. i don't know wnar— should do anyway. i don't know wnar-ls— should do anyway. i don't know wnar-ls nur— should do anyway. i don't know what-is, but i- should do anyway. i don't know what is, but i think what the score is, but i think you—rm- what the score is, but i think- wou—r-n gunen. r you may have won. i'm gutted. i wln— you may have won. i'm gutted. i wln every— you may have won. i'm gutted. i win every week. it— you may have won. i'm gutted. i win every week. it was- you may have won. i'm gutted. 1“ 9p it was the crash win every week. it was the crash kaaner. — win every week. it was the crash kaaner. rnrs— win every week. it was the crash rambler. this year's— 1“ 9p it was the crash rambler. this year's favourite 1“ 9p it was the crash ramblyeatsis year's favourite 1“ 9p it was the crash ramblyeats came"s favourite 1“ 9p it was the crash ramblyeats came fourth.irite 1“ 9p it was the crash ramblyeats came fourth. wow. noble yeats came fourth. wow. wow— noble yeats came fourth. wow. wow wean.— noble yeats came fourth. wow. wow yeah. there— noble yeats came fourth. wow. wow yeah. there go. that was wow yeah. there you go. that was run. — wow yeah. there you go. that was run. ileasr— wow yeah. there you go. that was run. least-got— wow yeah. there you go. that was fun. .least-got.in- fun. at least they got off in the they were allowed to the end. they were allowed to race. at least they were. at leasr— race. at least they were. at leasr new— race. at least they were. at least they were _ : at least they were. at least they were alive at the end of least they were alive at the end orlwell— least they were alive at the end orlwell-wou. - least they were alive at the end of.well,-you. let's. of it. well, thank you. let's nope— of it. well, thank you. let's hope - protesters- of it. well, thank you. let's hope protesters were as hope the protesters were as well. they will be alive well. well, they will be alive on today's show. i've been asklng— on today's show. i've been asklng. ls— on today's show. i've been askrng. rs roe— on today's show. i've been asking, is joe biden- 1“ : i've been asking, is joe biden to asking, is joe biden fit to be ne— asking, is joe biden fit to bei ne—worlae the leader of the free world? keeoralng— the leader of the free world? keeorllng ro— the leader of the free world? according to twitter poll, according to our twitter poll, on.— according to our twitter poll, on. ns— according to our twitter poll, on. n-s gone— according to our twitter poll, on. n gone up— according to our twitter poll, oh, it's gone up good. 8% of you say— oh, it's gone up good. 8% of you saew—wen— oh, it's gone up good. 8% of you saew—wen know- oh, it's gone up good. 8% of you say even know which say yes. i don't even know which crazy—or- crazy eight people you are or nowewer.—wou- crazy eight people you are or however,_you sayj crazy eight people you are or. however,_y0u say no, however, but 92% of you say no, n — however, but 92% of you say no, n nere. — however, but 92% of you say no, i'm here. thank— however, but 92% of you say no, i'm here. thank you— however, but 92% of you say no, i'm here. thank you so much to my i'm here. thank you so much to nw—anl- my panel, broadcaster and commentator— my panel, broadcaster and- commentator_ also commentator sam dowler, also nroaneasr— commentator sam dowler, alsoi broadcast—lizzie broadcast from columnist lizzie cunn— broadcast from columnist lizzie cuan—rolaw. i broadcast from columnist lizziei cuan—rolaw. ana cundy for joining me today. and as-nank— cundy for joining me today. and as-nank-wou- cundy for joining me today. and as-thank-you at- as ever, thank you to you at your— as ever, thank you to you at your ar— as ever, thank you to you at your a your— as ever, thank you to you at your at your for— as ever, thank you to you at your at your for your company. nnar-s— your at your for your company. was gorng— your at your for your company. was gorng on— your at your for your company. what's going on tomorrow with the what's going on tomorrow with ne faer— what's going on tomorrow with ne raer ls— what's going on tomorrow with the fact is, christine hamilton

ana— the fact is, christine hamilton and nanny— the fact is, christine hamilton and danny kelly— the fact is, christine hamilton and danny kelly at at a nrnnanr— and danny kelly at at a brilliant time- and danny kelly at at a brilliant time of 3:00. do not ss— brilliant time of 3:00. do not n— brilliant time of 3:00. do not n enjoy— brilliant time of 3:00. do not miss it enjoy your— brilliant time of 3:00. do not miss it enjoy your evening . miss it enjoy your evening. nank— miss it enjoy your evening. nank you. — miss it enjoy your evening. thank you. hello _ miss it enjoy your evening. thank you. hello i'm- miss it enjoy your evening. thank you. hello i'm craig snell. here is your latest noreeasr— snell. here is your latest forecast from _ snell. here is your latest forecast from the - here is your latest forecast from the met office as we go— forecast from the met office as we go nrougn— forecast from the met office as we go through the— forecast from the met office as we go through the next few days. for we go through the next few days. no many— we go through the next few days. no many or— we go through the next few days. no many or us— we go through the next few days. for many of us, it's— we go through the next few days. for many of us, it's going to be rally— for many of us, it's going to be rale cloudy— for many of us, it's going to be fairly cloudy tomorrow, but the ergnrer— fairly cloudy tomorrow, but the brighter skies— fairly cloudy tomorrow, but the brighter skies are— fairly cloudy tomorrow, but the brighter skies are set to return as wellnro— brighter skies are set to return as we.into early- brighter skies are set to return as we into early week. as we go into early next week. so as we go into early next week. so-snuanon- as we go into early next week. so - situation at - as we go into early next week. so - situation at the i so here's the situation at the rnornenr— so here's the situation at the nonenn-nrgn- so here's the situation at the- moment.-high pressure moment. we've got high pressure rrylng—ne- trying to move in across the uk, nur— trying to move in across the uk, nur-weaner- trying to move in across the uk, but-weather fronts. but these two weather fronts wlll— but these two weather fronts wlll-aeross- but these two weather fronts will-across many. but these two weather fronts- will-across many western will move in across many western areaslwelnrougn— will move in across many western areas we through the next areas as we go through the next 24 areas as we go through the next zn-ernglng— areas as we go through the next zn-ernglng n— areas as we go through the next 24 bringing in another areas as we go through the next 24 of bringing in another areas as we go through the next 24 of cloudjing in another areas as we go through the next 24 of cloud and in another areas as we go through the next 24 of cloud and rain.other areas as we go through the next 24 of cloud and rain. you r areas as we go through the next 24 of cloud and rain. you can spell of cloud and rain. you can n— spell of cloud and rain. you can n on— spell of cloud and rain. you can non ne— spell of cloud and rain. you can see it on the graphics here already— see it on the graphics here already moving— see it on the graphics here already moving into northern relanl— already moving into northern relanl ana— already moving into northern ireland and eventually into neorlana— ireland and eventually into scotland as— ireland and eventually into scotland as evening goes scotland as the evening goes on. for scotland as the evening goes on. nor-easrern— scotland as the evening goes on. for-eastern parts,- for many eastern parts, aelually— for many eastern parts, actually, it's— for many eastern parts, actually, it's going to remain rally— actually, it's going to remain rale ny— actually, it's going to remain fairly dry-some- actually, it's going to remain fairly dry some clear skies fairly dry with some clear skies . nayne— fairly dry with some clear skies . nayne ne— fairly dry with some clear skies , maybe the odd— fairly dry with some clear skies , maybe the odd and fog , maybe the odd mist and fog paren— , maybe the odd mist and fog paren-also— , maybe the odd mist and fog patch,-also here- , maybe the odd mist and fog patch, also here we could patch, but also here we could lusr— patch, but also here we could lusr see— patch, but also here we could just see ltouch_ patch, but also here we could just seeltouch of- patch, but also here we could just see touch of frost. but just see a touch of frost. but rurner— just see a touch of frost. but rurner wesr— just see a touch of frost. but further west where we see the cloud — further west where we see the cloud ana— further west where we see the cloud anal-n— further west where we see the cloud and it should be cloud and rain, it should be a rally— cloud and rain, it should be a rally nnn— cloud and rain, it should be a fairly mild night— cloud and rain, it should be a fairly mild night compared to resenn — fairly mild night compared to resenn so— fairly mild night compared to recent. so tomorrow for a lot of us n— recent. so tomorrow for a lot of us n srans— recent. so tomorrow for a lot of us it starts off— recent. so tomorrow for a lot of us it starts off fairly grey. coulo— us it starts off fairly grey. could you— us it starts off fairly grey. could you see— us it starts off fairly grey. could you see some brightness ne— could you see some brightness across the east?— could you see some brightness across the east? but generally a lot across the east? but generally a lo or— across the east? but generally a lo or sloug— across the east? but generally a lot of cloud around— across the east? but generally a lot of cloud around some ournreaks— lot of cloud around some

outbreaks of— lot of cloud around some outbreaks of rain too. quite ngnr— outbreaks of rain too. quite ngnr ana— outbreaks of rain too. quite light and patchy though mainly nuisance value— light and patchy though mainly nuisance value on at anything else.— nuisance value on at anything else. nur— nuisance value on at anything else. but then _ nuisance value on at anything else. but then going into the anernoon— else. but then going into the afternoon, brighter skies for nonnern— afternoon, brighter skies for. northern _scotland afternoon, brighter skies for- northern _scotland . northern ireland and scotland. rnrs— northern ireland and scotland. rnrs-ngger- northern ireland and scotland. le-ngger a- northern ireland and scotland. this _trigger a few. this may well trigger a few showes— this may well trigger a few showers but— this may well trigger a few showers but also feeling quite here he— showers but also feeling quite warm here in the— showers but also feeling quite warm here in the sunshine could see-reoehhe— warm here in the sunshine could see-reoehhg w— warm here in the sunshine could see reaching 17 degrees see highs reaching 17 degrees but see highs reaching 17 degrees hue shu— see highs reaching 17 degrees but still quite— see highs reaching 17 degrees but still quite disappointing where— but still quite disappointing where shoe— but still quite disappointing where that lingers across where that cloud lingers across hows— where that cloud lingers across poets of— where that cloud lingers across hows of-oho- where that cloud lingers across parts of and wales into parts of england and wales into the evening.— parts of england and wales into the ewehhg. a— parts of england and wales into the evening. a lot— parts of england and wales into the evening. a lot of the showers— the evening. a lot of the showers generally fading away . showers generally fading away. so showers generally fading away. so os— showers generally fading away. so as we— showers generally fading away. so as we go— showers generally fading away. so as we go into— showers generally fading away. so as we go into the small hours of so as we go into the small hours or monday,— so as we go into the small hours of monday, actually— so as we go into the small hours of monday, actually quite a lot of monday, actually quite a lot or he— of monday, actually quite a lot or he wh— of monday, actually quite a lot of the uk generally dry, some shear— of the uk generally dry, some ereor shes— of the uk generally dry, some clear skies, especially across seorroho— clear skies, especially across scotland - also - clear skies, especially across scotland also across some scotland and also across some eoserhr— scotland and also across some eoserhr horos— scotland and also across some eastern parts of— scotland and also across some eastern parts of england too . eastern parts of england too. here— eastern parts of england too. here eehhh— eastern parts of england too. here again, could just see here again, we could just see a roweh— here again, we could just see a roweh or— here again, we could just see a touch of frost,— here again, we could just see a touch of frost, but— here again, we could just see a touch of frost, but where the shore — touch of frost, but where the shore horos— touch of frost, but where the cloud hangs on,— touch of frost, but where the cloud hangs on, it should be forw— cloud hangs on, it should be rorrw hhe— cloud hangs on, it should be fairly mild for— cloud hangs on, it should be fairly mild for most. as we sherr— fairly mild for most. as we show hohoow— fairly mild for most. as we start monday morning. so going hro— start monday morning. so going hro monday— start monday morning. so going hro hohoow ,— start monday morning. so going into monday , again, a fairly into monday, again, a fairly cloudy— into monday, again, a fairly cloudy sherr— into monday, again, a fairly cloudy start across the west. hur— cloudy start across the west. her he— cloudy start across the west. but the clearer— cloudy start across the west. but the clearer skies across the eosr— but the clearer skies across the eosr wru— but the clearer skies across the east will slowly— but the clearer skies across the east will slowly spread their way— east will slowly spread their wow o— east will slowly spread their wow o hhre— east will slowly spread their way a little bit— east will slowly spread their way a little bit further westwards— way a little bit further westwards as the day goes on. so gooe— westwards as the day goes on. so some good sunshine developing across-midlands,— some good sunshine developing across midlands, central, across the midlands, central, sowrherh— southern england, northern seorroho— southern england, northern scotland and— southern england, northern scotland and maybe also northern heheh,— scotland and maybe also northern reroho, roo— scotland and maybe also northern ireland, too. and— scotland and maybe also northern ireland, too. and in— scotland and maybe also northern ireland, too. and in the swhsheh— ireland, too. and in the sunshine, especially come

rwesoow— sunshine, especially come rwesoow ,— sunshine, especially come rwesoow , we— sunshine, especially come tuesday , we could see highs tuesday, we could see highs ehehhe— tuesday, we could see highs reoehhe—h- tuesday, we could see highs reaching _ in the i tuesday, we could see highs reaching—in the .

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