three more political interviews with a difference this evening . with a difference this evening. first up, it's labour's luke pollard. as an mp , i wasn't pollard. as an mp, i wasn't prepared for a mass shooting like this. i don't think anyone is coming— like this. i don't think anyone is coming up— like this. i don't think anyone is coming up ,— c i don't think anyone is coming up, energy minister graham— is coming up, energy minister graham stuart— is coming up, energy minister graham stuart . _ is coming up, energy minister graham stuart . f graham stuart. but basically i did what i was told to do, which is to say it wasn't a confidence vote after it had been sent out earlier that it was. so it did lead to and contribute to a sense of chaos. coming up, conservative mp joe gideon. the challenge has been that- conservative mp joe gideon. the challenge has been that if- ii. 37�* c, 3" the challenge has been that if you put

challenge has been that if you psi psspis— challenge has been that if you psi psspis inis— challenge has been that if you put people into a— challenge has been that if you put people into a hotel without the put people into a hotel without is risk— put people into a hotel without the risk forces— put people into a hotel without the risk forces and in an area where— the risk forces and in an area where we— the risk forces and in an area where we are strapped for risk forces— where we are strapped for risk isisss is— where we are strapped for risk forces to help— where we are strapped for risk forces to help the— where we are strapped for risk forces to help the people who are forces to help the people who aiisaiy— forces to help the people who are already there _ forces to help the people who are already there and struggling ,.he.._ are already there and struggling ,iisn you-is— are already there and struggling , then you're going to have a isvsi— , then you're going to have a isvsi si— , then you're going to have a level of discontent. all that siisi— level of discontent. all that is your— level of discontent. all that after your news— level of discontent. all that after your news .- level of discontent. all that after your news . c: " g after your news. good evening. i'm tatiana sanchez in the gb newsroom. the health secretary has urged the royal college of nursing to reckon sidor planned industrial action at the end of the month. in a letter to the unions leader, this morning, steve barclay said the recent pay steve barclay said the recent pay offer is fair and reasonable and the decision to stage a 48 hour strike will put patients at risk. the ch's general secretary, pat cullen, has criticised the government for refusing to budge on its offer of a 5% pay rise. our

refusing to budge on its offer of a 5% pay rise . our members of a 5% pay rise. our members nsiiisi— of a 5% pay rise. our members neither think— of a 5% pay rise. our members neither think it— of a 5% pay rise. our members neither think it is— b�*i�*i�*? ” our members neither think it is reasonable or iii— neither think it is reasonable or iii .— neither think it is reasonable or iii. ii— neither think it is reasonable siisii. ii is— neither think it is reasonable or fair. it is a— neither think it is reasonable or fair. it is a short term approach— or fair. it is a short term approach that- or fair. it is a short term approach that plugs a gap by giving— approach that plugs a gap by giving iiism— approach that plugs a gap by giving iiism s— approach that plugs a gap by giving them a one off what iisy-vs— giving them a one off what they've described as a bonus. iisi-s— they've described as a bonus. that's certainly— they've described as a bonus. that's certainly not going to siirsss— that's certainly not going to address the— that's certainly not going to address the fundamental crisis iisi— address the fundamental crisis iisi sis-vs— address the fundamental crisis iisi goi— address the fundamental crisis that we've got within our nursing— that we've got within our nursing profession or within the nis— nursing profession or within the was .— nursing profession or within the was . isisui— nursing profession or within the nhs . labour has— nursing profession or within the nhs . labour has vowed to end nhs. labour has vowed to end wisi— nhs. labour has vowed to end wisi ii— nhs. labour has vowed to end what it describes— nhs. labour has vowed to end what it describes as a postcode isiisiy— what it describes as a postcode isiisiy iss— what it describes as a postcode isiisiy is es— what it describes as a postcode lottery for gp appointments if it lottery for gp appointments if ii ins— lottery for gp appointments if it wins the next— lottery for gp appointments if it wins the next election. the party— it wins the next election. the party says— it wins the next election. the party says up— it wins the next election. the party says up to_ it wins the next election. the party says up to three quarters of patients in some parts of england aren't able to see their doctor of choice and only half the number of appointments are held face to face. labour's promising to double the number of doctors trained every year to 15,000, and shadow health secretary wes streeting says young people need more opportunities to enter the profession. unless opportunities to enter the profession . unless the nhs has profession. unless the nhs has the profession. unless the nhs has is sign— profession. unless the nhs has is sisii ii— profession. unless the nhs has the staff it needs,— profession. unless the nhs has the staff it needs, it's- unless the nhs has the staff it needs, it's going to the staff it needs, it's going is siinggis— the staff it needs, it's going is siinggis is— the staff it needs, it's going to struggle to treat patients on iins— to struggle to treat patients on iins sni— to struggle to treat patients on time and we're— to struggle to treat patients on time and we're going to end up in inis— time and we're going to end up in this bizarre— time and we're going to end up in this bizarre situation where on nsni—

in this bizarre situation where on one hand we're turning away siisigni— on one hand we're turning away sinigni s— on one hand we're turning away sinigni a grass— on one hand we're turning away straight a grade students from signing— straight a grade students from studying medicine at university wniisi— studying medicine at university whilst recruiting _ studying medicine at university whilst recruiting people from overseas-greater- whilst recruiting people from overseas greater numbers than overseas in greater numbers than inining— overseas in greater numbers than we're training our— overseas in greater numbers than we're training our own home grown—is- we're training our own home grown—is noi- we're training our own home| grown—is not fair grown staff, which is not fair to grown staff, which is not fair is sinsi— grown staff, which is not fair to other countries around the nosin— to other countries around the wsiiilsvsn— to other countries around the world.-even more- world. but even more importantly,- world. but even more importantly, it's not fair to sign— importantly, it's not fair to bright teenagers in britain who ssuii— bright teenagers in britain who could—doctors- bright teenagers in britain whoi could—doctors and could be promising doctors and nsiiss— could be promising doctors and medics-future- could be promising doctors and medics future who are medics of the future who are ising— medics of the future who are ising isnisi— medics of the future who are being denied the opportunity signs— being denied the opportunity signs is— being denied the opportunity plans to build— being denied the opportunity plans to build new smart nsisswsys— plans to build new smart motorways are- plans to build new smart motorways are being cancelled ssisiy— motorways are being cancelled over safety concerns , cost and over safety concerns, cost and isn— over safety concerns, cost and ion nuiiis— over safety concerns, cost and low public confidence . low public confidence. us. the ssvsinnsni— low public confidence. us. the government has confirmed 14 planned projects have been scrapped. an existing stretches will be made safer. campaigners are demanding the return of hard shoulders to existing smart motorways. conservative party chairman greg hands told camilla tominey the government's putting pubuc tominey the government's putting public safety first. it's be right for us to, as i say, look at the evidence to come about it with bearing in mind all the factors that are involved. and that's why we've taken- f : and that's why we've taken the issisisn —

that's why we've taken the decision as— that's why we've taken the decision as a— that's why we've taken the decision as a result of the sinus— decision as a result of the public concern— decision as a result of the public concern to cease new snsn— public concern to cease new smart motorways— public concern to cease new smart motorways . that's what i smart motorways. that's what i inink— smart motorways. that's what i inink is— smart motorways. that's what i inink is ins— smart motorways. that's what i think is the right— smart motorways. that's what i think is the right decision. the siiiisn— think is the right decision. the british horse— think is the right decision. the british horse racing authority has condemned— british horse racing authority has condemned protesters who isisysi— has condemned protesters who isisysi ins— has condemned protesters who delayed the grand national. “8 delayed the grand national. 118 pssnis— delayed the grand national. 118 psspis wsis— delayed the grand national. 118 people were arrested _ delayed the grand national. 118 people were arrested for- people were arrested for disrupting the event yesterday , disrupting the event yesterday, slightly delaying the start of the race. activists from animal rising are calling forjump racing to be banned after three horses died at aintree . and horses died at aintree. and they've warned further protests will take place this summer. the bucha says it will be a painstaking analysis to determine min what caused the deaths . the head of determine min what caused the deaths. the head of sudan's army and paramilitary have agreed to and paramilitary have agreed to a three hour humanitarian pause in fighting. at least 56 civilians have been killed and almost 600 injured, as both forces battle for control across the capital, khartoum. global leaders have been holding crisis talks to try to bring an end to the conflict, but both sides

claim to have taken the airport presidential palace and state tv , which has since had its transmission cut. tensions have escalated as political factions negotiate over a proposed transition to civilian rule following a military coup in 2021 and more than 6000 members of the armed forces will be taking part in the king's coronation next month. thousands of veterans and nhs workers have also been invited to watch the historic event from a special grandstand in front of buckingham palace . the culture buckingham palace. the culture secretary says it's the mark of the nation's profound gratitude . tv online dab+ radio and on tune in. this is gb news. now it's tune in. this is gb news. now wsfime tune in. this is gb news. now it's time for gloria meets .

it's time for gloria meets. luke pollard , labour mp shadow armed pollard, labour mp shadow armed forces minister elected . in 2017 forces minister elected. in 2017 to parliament. we recorded the inisnisw— to parliament. we recorded the interview before _ to parliament. we recorded the interview before luke- 331 we recorded the interview before luke revealed his interview before luke revealed nis isssiving— interview before luke revealed his receiving treatment for skin cancer. we wish— his receiving treatment for skin cancer. we wish him well. we're going— cancer. we wish him well. we're going is— cancer. we wish him well. we're going is sign— cancer. we wish him well. we're going is sign in— cancer. we wish him well. we're going to start by talking about ssnsining— going to start by talking about ssnsining ws— going to start by talking about something we don't normally talk to something we don't normally talk is iii-s— something we don't normally talk is iii-s ensui— something we don't normally talk to mp's about, which is ssnsining— to mp's about, which is something that happened in your ssnsiiiusnsy— something that happened in your constituency in— something that happened in your constituency in august 2021. one of constituency in august 2021. one si ins— constituency in august 2021. one si ins uns— constituency in august 2021. one of the uk's worst— constituency in august 2021. one of the uk's worst mass shootings . isii— of the uk's worst mass shootings . isii ms— of the uk's worst mass shootings . tell me about— of the uk's worst mass shootings . tell me about jake davison. wnsi— . tell me about jake davison. wnsi ns— . tell me about jake davison. what he did. _ . tell me about jake davison. what he did. he— . tell me about jake davison. what he did. it; " what he did. he shot seven people, five of them were killed , two survived. but with quite serious injuries. hundreds of people saw the shooting took place, taking place, including many children, about a third of the eyewitnesses are children . the eyewitnesses are children. and it has just torn our community apart. there's now huge amounts of grief for the

people we lost. there's a collective trauma for the experiences that people went through, and there's a real variety of ways people are deaung variety of ways people are dealing with it. we know that communities that have suffered a major trauma like this have a consequences, not just for weeks and months afterwards, but for years and decades. and it's still very much a very much raw in my community. i only live half a mile from where it took place. and it really it hurts still. it hurts the community and there's a real sense that after all this evil that was done to our community, all this pain, all the loss, that something good's got to come from it. and that has to be about changing gun laws for the better because don't want any better because i don't want any other going through better because i don't want any otherwe going through better because i don't want any otherwe did going through better because i don't want any otherwe did in going through better because i don't want any otherwe did in plymouth. rough better because i don't want any otherwe did in plymouth. ithh what we did in plymouth. it really was terrible. but that pain has to be used for some good at end of it. so you good at the end of it. so you mentioned gun— good at the end of it. so you mentioned gun laws.- d e so you mentioned gun laws. tell me what you nsvs— mentioned gun laws. tell me what you inns in— mentioned gun laws. tell me what you have in mind— mentioned gun laws. tell me what you have in mind in— mentioned gun laws. tell me what you have in mind in terms of insi— you have in mind in terms of ms sni— you have in mind in terms of ms and any— you have in mind in terms of that and any other lessons that is— that and any other lessons that can be learned.— that and any other lessons that can be learned. so— that and any other lessons that can be learned. so no other ssnnuniiy— can be learned. so no other community does— can be learned. so no other community does suffer what your

ssnnuniiy— community does suffer what your community has.7 _ community does suffer what your community has.7 will community does suffer what your community has.7 view viiziz; community does suffer what your community has.7 �*fiitt ii community has.7 well, we were let down by our local police force. they gave a gun to someone who should not have been eligible for a gun. wasn't suitable . they for a gun. wasn't suitable. they tookit for a gun. wasn't suitable. they took it off him after he assaulted someone and then they gave it back. and so it's a catalogue of failures locally . catalogue of failures locally. but it's not just about what devon and cornwall police did . devon and cornwall police did. it needs to be about a bigger picture because our gun laws are outdated . the 1968 act that most outdated. the 1968 act that most of our legislation comes from is from an era of very long time ago . it costs £79 to apply for ago. it costs £79 to apply for a gun certificate , £49 for gun certificate, £49 for a renewal. it costs police forces hundreds and hundreds of pounds to process that application, which means all of us taxpayers are paying for the right of a very small number of people to have weapons. i don't think people should be able to keep pump—action weapons in their homes, which was the weapon used in plymouth . but i also think we in plymouth. but i also think we need to revisit the whole system. each police force does gun licencing slightly differently. police force

differently. each police force process it differently . and we process it differently. and we know that gun crime is on the rise. we know it's a persistent problem in our communities. rise. we know it's a persistent problem in our communities . and problem in our communities. and i think the way that we are going a safer a safer going to get a safer a safer environment for people and a clearer sense of direction for those people who are responsible gun users is to have a proper review of gun laws to look at what has gone wrong, not just in plymouth, but in the shootings since. has sadly been since. and there has sadly been many shootings since the incident we've had in incident that we've had in plymouth learn those lessons plymouth to learn those lessons and that has to be about including the communities that have affected by this, have been affected by this, because that focus because that pain, that focus that comes from that grief and that comes from that grief and that loss needs to be directed into a way of making our communities safer. think communities safer. and i think a review of gun laws is one way of doing that. okay. following the snssiings— doing that. okay. following the shootings, -said_ doing that. okay. following the shootings,-said this- doing that. okay. following the shootings,-said this to- iiiii g okay. following the shootings, said this to the shootings, you said this to the isisui— shootings, you said this to the labour leader— shootings, you said this to the labour leader ,_ shootings, you said this to the labour leader , keir starmer. labour leader, keir starmer. i gnisiui— labour leader, keir starmer. i was grateful you— labour leader, keir starmer. i was grateful you allowed me to siss— was grateful you allowed me to sisp insi— was grateful you allowed me to sisp issk iss— was grateful you allowed me to step back for a— was grateful you allowed me to step back for a month in the summer to not— step back for a month in the summer to not only focus on the ssnnuniiy— summer to not only focus on the ssnnuniiy i— summer to not only focus on the community i represent ant, but to community i represent ant, but is isos— community i represent ant, but is issk siisi— community i represent ant, but to look after my— community i represent ant, but to look after my own mental

nssiin.— to look after my own mental nssiin. isii— to look after my own mental health. tell me— to look after my own mental health. tell me about the impact it health. tell me about the impact ii nai— health. tell me about the impact ii iii sn— health. tell me about the impact ii iii on your— health. tell me about the impact it had on your mental health as an iii. — it had on your mental health as an iii. i— it had on your mental health as an mp. i wasn't— it had on your mental health as an mp. i wasn't for— it had on your mental health as an mp. e : an mp. i wasn't for prepared a mass shooting like this. i don't think anyone is. the day after we set up the shooting took place , we set up an emergency place, we set up an emergency response centre in the community and the first people that came through were parents with their young kids and speaking to tiny children and their parents about how their child had seen someone shot with a pump action rifle. what it meant for them, and repeating that conversation dozens dozens times as i dozens and dozens of times as i mean, that has an effect on you. and i'd like to think i was quite a resilient character. i'm always kind of duracell bunny, bouncy but when have those bouncy, but when you have those type of experiences shared time and time again, that does take its . and in the its toll. and i was in the shadow cabinet at the time when the shooting took place and our member sitting in kyiv with families just thinking , i can families just thinking, i can either do my shadow cabinet role properly for this period or i can look after my community and there's one me for this there's only one of me for this community. so i ask him if i

could step back for a month and that time was really important not to only look after myself, to make that i could still to make sure that i could still get out of bed every day and to experience yet again a, you know, the same conversation as, you know, looking after people, feeling they feel , feeling seeing how they feel, but also make sure that i can still be useful as a member of parliament. so. right, we're taking this pain and we're going to something positive with to do something positive with it. and that's really, i think, the job of an mp to represent their community. me their community. and for me that's representing that's what representing a community means. so six years you've community means. so six years you-vs issn— community means. so six years yon-vs issn sn— community means. so six years you've been an mp— community means. so six years you've been an mp the- i can so six years you've been an mp the year after you've been an mp the year after you oss— you've been an mp the year after you were elected,— you've been an mp the year after you were elected, you wrote an onisis— you were elected, you wrote an onisis .— you were elected, you wrote an onisis . inis— you were elected, you wrote an article . this was— you were elected, you wrote an article . this was in— you were elected, you wrote an article . this was in 2018 saying article. this was in 2018 saying the article. this was in 2018 saying is poisonous— article. this was in 2018 saying the poisonous environment in ioiiionsni— the poisonous environment in parliament needs to be over soiisi— parliament needs to be over called what's— parliament needs to be over called what's poisonous about the atmosphere— called what's poisonous about the atmosphere in parliament? oh, the atmosphere in parliament? on is— the atmosphere in parliament? on is ins— the atmosphere in parliament? oh, it's the most— the atmosphere in parliament? oh, it's the most unprofessional uoskpioss— oh, it's the most unprofessional uopkpiuss i-vs— oh, it's the most unprofessional workplace i've ever— oh, it's the most unprofessional workplace i've ever worked in. i workplace i've ever worked in. iiiini— workplace i've ever worked in. iiiini ins— workplace i've ever worked in. i think the chamber— workplace i've ever worked in. i think the chamber of- workplace i've ever worked in. i think the chamber of the- workplace i've ever worked in. i think the chamber of the house of commons has has over many, many decades , many years been many decades, many years been allowed to be a bear pit where people are deliberately shouted

down, where insults are thrown at people, and that is what passes for mature political debates . i think our politics debates. i think our politics broadly is broken and i think you need to fix it. doing a lots of different things. but for those people at the very top of our politics, we've got to lead by example. and i think that means taking toxic means taking on the toxic atmosphere that is our politics, not just in the way that our debates are conducted, the insults that are thrown at each other, the morality and the motivations being doubted. but also about how it's conducted . i also about how it's conducted. i still don't think westminster is a safe place to work, especially for many of the young members of staff that mps employ . and we staff that mps employ. and we know that there are predators around westminster that are sometimes is allowed to continue to or a blind eye turned . and i to or a blind eye turned. and i want to see that changed because i think westminster should embody the very best of our country . it should be a place country. it should be a place that people aspire for to get elected to, and then want to change the world from a position of strength. and i'm afraid at

the i sometimes feel the moment i sometimes feel westminster the of the westminster lets the rest of the country you said something country down. you said something quite said quite important there. you said you think quite important there. you said you -think westminster. quite important there. you said| you -think westminster is you do not think westminster is a you do not think westminster is o sois— you do not think westminster is o sois-ioi— you do not think westminster is o sois-ioi young- you do not think westminster is a safe for young members a safe space for young members of a safe space for young members oi sioii— a safe space for young members oi sioii. son— a safe space for young members of staff. can you— a safe space for young members of staff. can you elaborate on insis— of staff. can you elaborate on inois i— of staff. can you elaborate on inois i nson— of staff. can you elaborate on that? i mean, there are hundreds of that? i mean, there are hundreds oi young— that? i mean, there are hundreds oi young nsn— that? i mean, there are hundreds oi young oni— that? i mean, there are hundreds of young men and women who go to work— of young men and women who go to work ion— of young men and women who go to work ioi iii. — of young men and women who go to work ioi iii. ii-s— of young men and women who go to work for mp. it's their— of young men and women who go to work for mp. it's their dream to nois— work for mp. it's their dream to woik inio— work for mp. it's their dream to walk into parliament for the insi— walk into parliament for the is iins— walk into parliament for the first time in.— walk into parliament for the first time in. it's— walk into parliament for the first time in. it's not safe for insn. — first time in. it's not safe for insn. i— first time in. it's not safe for them. i think— first time in. it's not safe for them. i think we- first time in. it's not safe for them. i think we let- first time in. it's not safe for them. "

be put off by this. we need more good in westminster of good people in westminster of every frankly, to make every party, frankly, to make that that we need to that change that we need to achieve, because westminster should the very best of should be the very best of britain. we've seen from not only the sexual abuse scandals that been in the news , but that have been in the news, but also lobbying scandals , the also the lobbying scandals, the culture of bullying. that's far too we've got too present, that we've got a long to go now to get it to long way to go now to get it to be the place where it should be. that promise, that it should be a place where you can debate and challenge, with campaigns challenge, come with campaigns and hope and i think we've got some work to do to get there. okay, let's talk about your own spsisnss — okay, let's talk about your own spsisss oi— okay, let's talk about your own experience of being an mp . not a experience of being an mp. not a good— experience of being an mp. not a good ons— experience of being an mp. not a good during— experience of being an mp. not a good one. during the general sissiion— good one. during the general election, your— good one. during the general election, your constituency oiiiss— election, your constituency oiiiss wus— election, your constituency office was vandalised on two occasions, one— office was vandalised on two occasions, one week apart. it . occasions, one week apart. it. on— occasions, one week apart. it. on os— occasions, one week apart. it. on one occasion— occasions, one week apart. it. on one occasion graffiti was spiuysi— on one occasion graffiti was spiuysi in— on one occasion graffiti was spiuysi in so— on one occasion graffiti was sprayed in red paint on the window— sprayed in red paint on the window and— sprayed in red paint on the window and walls of your office , ossusing— window and walls of your office , ossusing you— window and walls of your office , accusing you of— window and walls of your office , accusing you of being a. what yous— , accusing you of being a. what was your reaction _ , accusing you of being a. what was your reaction to that when you— was your reaction to that when you sow— was your reaction to that when you insi— was your reaction to that when you in s — was your reaction to that when you saw that ? oh,- was your reaction to that when you saw that ? o" �*tiee

you saw that? oh, i felt for my staff , first of all, who have to staff, first of all, who have to work in that office every single day. but those type of slurs towards openly gay people like myself is sadly something that you live with when you're out . you live with when you're out. there's far too much hate in our community. and when you see that , i think i had a choice straight away when i saw that paint daubed on the office. it's like, right, are they going to make me a victim? am i going to be the person who has to explain what's i said, no , what's going on? i said, no, they're not making me a victim of think when you're of this. and i think when you're confronted hate and there's confronted with hate and there's a of hate around in politics a lot of hate around in politics at and our society at the moment and in our society as whole, i think you've got a as a whole, i think you've got a choice about whether you confront it with more hate, more angen confront it with more hate, more anger, more division, more energy. that just creates more heat, more light. heat, doesn't create more light. that's the reason why we're the person did that. i offered person who did that. i offered to have cup of tea with them. to have a cup of tea with them. let's sit down. let's talk about why think that is why they think that is appropriate, why they think that because calling gay people has been a you know , it's a trope been a you know, it's a trope that has gone back generations and generations. and it's just

hate. it's untruthful hate. and that's why we need to challenge and call it out. but the most effective way of calling out, i think, not to load more hate think, is not to load more hate onto it is to try and create some clarity and some positivity out of it . say, okay, this out of it. say, okay, this doesn't have to be the way i'm in the public eye, which means my experience is when that happens, became story. happens, became a news story. there's every single day there's people every single day facing that type of hate and abuse in the communities who don't have the same platform as i do, don't have the same protections that a member of parliament and that's why parliament does. and that's why how respond to is so how we respond to it is so important because lead important because we should lead by , and that's leading by example, and that's leading by example, and that's leading by example, and that's leading by example terms of how we by example in terms of how we deal with problems. but deal with these problems. but i don't want to see any lgbt person in our country have to suffer hate, but there's suffer that hate, but there's more around. we've got more of it around. so we've got to more determined in to be more determined in challenging and doing so to challenging it and doing so to create better country the create a better country at the end it. and valentine's end of it. and on valentine's day in 2021, you posted a picture of yourself and your boyfriend you received online

homophobic abuse. when you did so. is homophobic abuse. when you did is insi— homophobic abuse. when you did is in ins— homophobic abuse. when you did so. is that the last— it when you did so. is that the last horrible sxonpis— so. is that the last horrible soonpis oi— so. is that the last horrible example of abuse that you've issn— example of abuse that you've issn suiissi— example of abuse that you've been subject to? _ example of abuse that you've been subject to? iii i: been subject to? there's quite a lot of abuse online and people sitting in their pants at home just being able to tweet whatever they like or post anonymous comments. that's pretty nasty. but we're in a culture where that is being increasingly normalised and i'm plymouth's first ever out member of parliament. i think that is a special responsibility. i have to be authentically me and i've got a wonderful fiance now and i'm really happy with him. he's he's everything i could ever dream of. and because of that , i dream of. and because of that, i don't want to let online trolls have a go at me to take away some of that that love that i have for him. and i know that when i stand up to anti—lgbt hate in that way, you're giving hope for people who are facing it every day. people who are suffering and struggling because of hate, directed at them simply because who they are and who they fall in love with. and that's why i think the

visibility matters. visibility that's why i think the visibaboutiatters. visibility that's why i think the visib about being visibility that's why i think the visib about being an sibility that's why i think the visib about being an mpity that's why i think the visib about being an mp visible obe about being an mp visible motty about what you do with being mp. think you've being an mp. and i think you've got challenge hate, but got to challenge hate, but you've create some you've also got to create some hope bh you've also got to create some hope bit more hope in our hope and a bit more hope in our politics. i think could go a long way. final question. you're going to get married? op.— you're going to get married? sinus-is— you're going to get married? oh,-we're looking- oh, yes. we're looking at venues, setting date venues, hopefully setting a date soon. about it. soon. i'm very excited about it. and as the bloodiest man in and then as the bloodiest man in parliament, i think at the moment, i can't wait to start a family with him. oh, that's a lovely family with him. oh, that's a ioysiy nay— family with him. oh, that's a ioysiy way is — family with him. oh, that's a lovely way to end _ can i oh, that's a lovely way to end because can " oh, that's a lovely way to end because we sionsi— lovely way to end because we sionsi-o— lovely way to end because we sionsi-o vssy— lovely way to end because we started a very difficult lovely way to end because we starteand a very difficult lovely way to end because we starteand alla very difficult lovely way to end because we starteand all ofery difficult lovely way to end because we starteand all of us difficult lovely way to end because we starteand all of us atfficult lovely way to end because we starteand all of us at gbilt lovely way to end because we starteand all of us at gb news time and all of us at gb news ssni— time and all of us at gb news ssni yous— time and all of us at gb news send your community, our very ossi— send your community, our very issi uisnss— send your community, our very best wishes for— send your community, our very best wishes for the recovery and an best wishes for the recovery and on oni— best wishes for the recovery and on and ins— best wishes for the recovery and an and the grieving that undoubtedly— an and the grieving that undoubtedly will be a feature of your— undoubtedly will be a feature of your sonnuniiy— undoubtedly will be a feature of your community for some time to iuks— your community for some time to come. luke pollard— your community for some time to come. luke pollard thank you. inani— come. luke pollard thank you. inonk you— come. luke pollard thank you. inoni you yssy— come. luke pollard thank you. thank you very much . coming up, thank you very much. coming up, insigy— thank you very much. coming up, insigy iiinisisi— thank you very much. coming up, energy minister graham stuart. mr. energy minister graham stuart. iii. spsisn— energy minister graham stuart. mr. speaker, what— energy minister graham stuart. mr. speaker, what a— energy minister graham stuart. mr. speaker, what a great- energy minister graham stuart. mr. speaker, what a great debate . technically, it's probably not a confidence vote, but blah blah blah to be fair to ed miliband, he was hot to trot on it. he's been around and he was bouncing

up and down relentlessly . so up and down relentlessly. so coming up, conservative mp jo gideon, do you think there's any ageism in parliament? well, i just don't accept any- g " , well,i just don't accept any sort of gigs— just don't accept any sort of glass ceilings— just don't accept any sort of glass ceilings and barriers. but yes ,— glass ceilings and barriers. but yss , ssnuiniy— glass ceilings and barriers. but yes , certainly there is . i think yes, certainly there is. i think you— yes, certainly there is. i think you noos— yes, certainly there is. i think you novs io— yes, certainly there is. i think you have to have— yes, certainly there is. i think you have to have a huge level of issiiisnss— you have to have a huge level of issiiisnss io— you have to have a huge level of resilience to become an mp

graham stuart, minister of state for energy security and net zero. we'll talk a little bit about your policy area towards the end of this interview. but this is primarily about you and who you are so you went to private school, you go to cambridge university, but you fail degree . what happened? fail your degree. what happened? you can imagine how upset my dad

was you can imagine how upset my dad oni— you can imagine how upset my dad oni soiiy— you can imagine how upset my dad was and sadly, when— you can imagine how upset my dad was and sadly, when i was sissisi— was and sadly, when i was sissisi io— was and sadly, when i was elected to parliament, which i felt elected to parliament, which i isii nos— elected to parliament, which i felt was like _ elected to parliament, which i felt was like giving him sonsining— felt was like giving him something back, but he died of cancer in january— something back, but he died of cancer in january 2005, and i wosn-i— cancer in january 2005, and i wasn't elected— cancer in january 2005, and i wasn't elected till— cancer in january 2005, and i wasn't elected till later that yson — wasn't elected till later that yson sui— wasn't elected till later that yson sui i— wasn't elected till later that year. but i felt,— wasn't elected till later that year. but i felt, yeah, he had to year. but i felt, yeah, he had is igni— year. but i felt, yeah, he had io iigni yssy— year. but i felt, yeah, he had to fight very hard. he's from a siosgou— to fight very hard. he's from a glasgow council— to fight very hard. he's from a glasgow council house. i don't inink— glasgow council house. i don't inink ns-i— glasgow council house. i don't think he'd even— glasgow council house. i don't think he'd even had all the isosnsis— think he'd even had all the teachers he— think he'd even had all the teachers he needed to become a iosioi. — teachers he needed to become a iosioi. usi— teachers he needed to become a doctor. he'd had— teachers he needed to become a doctor. he'd had to— teachers he needed to become a doctor. he'd had to win a scholarship— doctor. he'd had to win a scholarship by- doctor. he'd had to win a scholarship by staying an extra ysoi— scholarship by staying an extra ysoi oi— scholarship by staying an extra year at school.— scholarship by staying an extra year at school. so— scholarship by staying an extra year at school. so you can inogins— year at school. so you can inugins ns— year at school. so you can imagine he struggled. but as i said— imagine he struggled. but as i said io— imagine he struggled. but as i said is nin— imagine he struggled. but as i said to him, i— imagine he struggled. but as i said to him, i said, you have your— said to him, i said, you have your upbringing,— said to him, i said, you have your upbringing, i have mine, oni— your upbringing, i have mine, and us— your upbringing, i have mine, and us poin— your upbringing, i have mine, and we both got— your upbringing, i have mine, and we both got to find our own way. — and we both got to find our own way. visio— and we both got to find our own way. visis you — and we both got to find our own way. were you gutted - and we both got to find our own way. �*fi�*iiii gieeiii: " way. were you gutted when you failed? no i was busy. i, i had after school after— failed? no i was busy. i, i had after school after ten- i:i7 \iii i, i had after school after ten years of all after school after ten years of oii nois— after school after ten years of all male scottish— after school after ten years of all male scottish boarding ssiooi— all male scottish boarding ssnooi, i— all male scottish boarding school, i went— all male scottish boarding school, i went to california . school, i went to california. 0h,— school, i went to california. on unsi— school, i went to california. on in o— school, i went to california. oh, what a joyous release that ani— oh, what a joyous release that was. and eventually my parents inggsi— was. and eventually my parents inggsi ns— was. and eventually my parents dragged me back— was. and eventually my parents dragged me back to go to univsssiiy— dragged me back to go to university. arnie i rowed. i was invoivsi— university. arnie i rowed. i was invoivsi in— university. arnie i rowed. i was involved in politics. i was snoiinon— involved in politics. i was chairman of— involved in politics. i was chairman of the conservative assosioiion— chairman of the conservative association. i— chairman of the conservative association. i started my own pupiisning— association. i started my own publishing business at the end of publishing business at the end oi ny— publishing business at the end oi ny insi— publishing business at the end of my first year. _ publishing business at the end of my first year. by my third, it of my first year. by my third, ii wus— of my first year. by my third, ii paying— of my first year. by my third, it was paying more than a job

it was paying me more than a job uouisi— it was paying me more than a job uouii. so— it was paying me more than a job uouii. so i— it was paying me more than a job would. so i decided— it was paying me more than a job would. so i decided i'd always wonisi— would. so i decided i'd always wonisi io— would. so i decided i'd always wonisi is go— would. so i decided i'd always wanted to go into— would. so i decided i'd always wanted to go into politics. sinss— wanted to go into politics. sinss i— wanted to go into politics. sinss i was— wanted to go into politics. since i was at— wanted to go into politics. since i was at school, i thought wanted to go into politics. singoi was at school, i thought wanted to go into politics. singo and; at school, i thought wanted to go into politics. singo and i'd school, i thought wanted to go into politics. singo and i'd become i thought wanted to go into politics. singo and i'd become aniought i'd go and i'd become an entrepreneur— i'd go and i'd become an entrepreneur to create jobs, sisosi— entrepreneur to create jobs, create wealth, _ entrepreneur to create jobs, create wealth, and then go into poiiiiss— create wealth, and then go into poiiiiss. so— create wealth, and then go into poiiiiss. so i— create wealth, and then go into politics. so i wasn't overly iusssi— politics. so i wasn't overly fussed about— politics. so i wasn't overly fussed about my degree. i was nusn— fussed about my degree. i was nusn nusn— fussed about my degree. i was much, much upset about the much, much more upset about the ioiiuis—iooi- much, much more upset about the failure—boat in- failure to catch the boat in ironi— failure to catch the boat in iioni oi— failure to catch the boat in iioni oi ns— failure to catch the boat in front of me in— failure to catch the boat in front of me in the in that yss— front of me in the in that yss posi— front of me in the in that year's boat race. all male boarding schools , are they are boarding schools, are they are they brutal places or is that a stereotype that doesn't i mean, most of my friends, i think, enjoyed enjoyed it. i happen not to. so enjoyed enjoyed it. i happen not is. so nosi— enjoyed enjoyed it. i happen not is. so nosi i— enjoyed enjoyed it. i happen not to. so most i shouldn't- ii: i: e i happen not to. so most i shouldn't you know you— to. so most i shouldn't you know you snouiin-i— to. so most i shouldn't you know you shouldn't colour anything or way— you shouldn't colour anything or one way or another. i didn't punisuiuiiy— one way or another. i didn't particularly enjoy it . and so particularly enjoy it. and so pui— particularly enjoy it. and so iui you— particularly enjoy it. and so but you know,— particularly enjoy it. and so but you know, apart from the iso— but you know, apart from the iisk oni— but you know, apart from the iisk oni ins— but you know, apart from the tick and the difficulty talking to tick and the difficulty talking io os— tick and the difficulty talking to women , otherwise it's left me to women, otherwise it's left me unnoinsi— to women, otherwise it's left me unnoinsi . — to women, otherwise it's left me unharmed . you— to women, otherwise it's left me unharmed. /i. g to women, otherwise it's left me unharmed. 4i. g to women, otherwise it's left me unharmed. 41g iiii unharmed. you being serious, do you reckon it does when you're in a single sex school, particularly a boarding school? do reckon it does create do you reckon it does create difficulties talking to the opposite sex? oh, i don't know . opposite sex? oh, i don't know. i opposite sex? oh, i don't know. i ion-i— opposite sex? oh, i don't know. i ion-i i— opposite sex? oh, i don't know. i ion-i i ion-i— opposite sex? oh, i don't know. i don't i don't think— opposite sex? oh, i don't know. i don't i don't think it's- i5ui;p

a i don't i don't think it's been s using— i don't i don't think it's been a lasting problem. okay okay. iigni.— a lasting problem. okay okay. iigni. ini— a lasting problem. okay okay. right. i'm really— a lasting problem. okay okay. right. i'm really keen to get to see this event through your eyes . on the 19th of october 2022, there was this controversial fracking vote that the government had declared a vote of no confidence. but during the debate , you were at the front debate, you were at the front bench. debate, you were at the front bench . you were speaking from bench. you were speaking from the despatch box and you rejected any suggestion that the impending vote was more about confidence in liz truss and her government than it was about fracking. that vote arguably played a big role in her demise . is she was she was gone within within days . what happened that within days. what happened that night? well i was ready, as you say, to sum up at the end of rather in a packed house, in rather in a packed house, in rather a fractious debate . but rather a fractious debate. but when i suddenly got- rather a fractious debate. but when i suddenly got the- �*iiit. : but when i suddenly got the message isnini— when i suddenly got the message isnini noos— when i suddenly got the message behind have you— when i suddenly got the message behind have you seen your phone go? behind have you seen your phone gos ani— behind have you seen your phone gos and in— behind have you seen your phone go? and this was— behind have you seen your phone go? and this was two minutes isiois— go? and this was two minutes isiois i— go? and this was two minutes isiois i noi— go? and this was two minutes before i had to— go? and this was two minutes before i had to begin the summary—

before i had to begin the summary summing up at the isspoisn— summary summing up at the isspoisn pox— summary summing up at the despatch box and i said no. and i despatch box and i said no. and i iooksi— despatch box and i said no. and i iooksi oi— despatch box and i said no. and i iooksi oi ii— despatch box and i said no. and i looked at it and— despatch box and i said no. and i looked at it and it— despatch box and i said no. and i looked at it and it said, you know.— i looked at it and it said, you know, number— i looked at it and it said, you know, number 10— i looked at it and it said, you know, number 10 won't confirmation- know, number 10 won't confirmation that you'll say its— confirmation that you'll say is noi— confirmation that you'll say is noi o— confirmation that you'll say it's not a confidence vote. so i iss— it's not a confidence vote. so i gig, okay,— it's not a confidence vote. so i was like, okay, good soldier, iii— was like, okay, good soldier, in soy— was like, okay, good soldier, in soy ii.— was like, okay, good soldier, i spy is so— was like, okay, good soldier, i'll say it. so i— was like, okay, good soldier, i'll say it. so i stood up i to is— i'll say it. so i stood up i to is ion— i'll say it. so i stood up i to is ioin i— i'll say it. so i stood up i to be fair, i tried— i'll say it. so i stood up i to be fair, i tried just to slip it in. i— be fair, i tried just to slip it in. i nopsi— be fair, i tried just to slip it in. i hoped people might just ossiiis— in. i hoped people might just ossiiis ii— in. i hoped people might just ascribe it to— in. i hoped people might just ascribe it to me.— in. i hoped people might just ascribe it to me. i said, mr. spsoksu— ascribe it to me. i said, mr. speaker, what— ascribe it to me. i said, mr. speaker, what a— ascribe it to me. i said, mr. speaker, what a great debate. issinisoiiy— speaker, what a great debate. technically, it's— speaker, what a great debate. technically, it's probably not a soniiisnss— technically, it's probably not a confidence vote,— technically, it's probably not a confidence vote, but blah blah, pion— confidence vote, but blah blah, inn-lis— confidence vote, but blah blah, pionlis ion— confidence vote, but blah blah, blah..be fair to— confidence vote, but blah blah, blah. be fair to miliband, blah. to be fair to ed miliband, he blah. to be fair to ed miliband, ns-noi— blah. to be fair to ed miliband, ns-noi io— blah. to be fair to ed miliband, he-hot to trot— blah. to be fair to ed miliband, he-hot to trot on- blah. to be fair to ed miliband, he hot to trot on it. he he was hot to trot on it. he ns-s— he was hot to trot on it. he ns-s issn— he was hot to trot on it. he he's been around and he was iounsing— he's been around and he was pounsing up— he's been around and he was bouncing up and— he's been around and he was bouncing up and down relentlessly. - bouncing up and down relentlessly. so eventually and psopis— relentlessly. so eventually and psopis psnini— relentlessly. so eventually and people behind me were getting a iiiiis— people behind me were getting a iiiiis spooksi— people behind me were getting a little spooked as— people behind me were getting a little spooked as well. so iosisoiiy— little spooked as well. so iosisoiiy, i— little spooked as well. so basically, i did- little spooked as well. so basically, i did what i was told to basically, i did what i was told is so,— basically, i did what i was told is so, unisn— basically, i did what i was told to do, which is— basically, i did what i was told to do, which is to— basically, i did what i was told to do, which is to say it wasn't a to do, which is to say it wasn't o soniiisnss— to do, which is to say it wasn't a confidence vote— to do, which is to say it wasn't a confidence vote after it had issn— a confidence vote after it had issn ssni— a confidence vote after it had been sent out— a confidence vote after it had been sent out earlier that it so— been sent out earlier that it so ii— been sent out earlier that it was. so it did— been sent out earlier that it was. so it did lead to and contribute— was. so it did lead to and contribute to— was. so it did lead to and contribute to a- was. so it did lead to and contribute to a sense of chaos. i contribute to a sense of chaos. i inink— contribute to a sense of chaos. i inink ,— contribute to a sense of chaos. i inink . oi— contribute to a sense of chaos. i think , at the— contribute to a sense of chaos. i think , at the time. and ed i think, at the time. and ed minions.— i think, at the time. and ed miliband, eventually i think i goos— miliband, eventually i think i guys nay— miliband, eventually i think i guys noy py— miliband, eventually i think i gave way by saying, mr. speaker, i'd gave way by saying, mr. speaker, i-i isiisi— gave way by saying, mr. speaker, i-i isiisi ins— gave way by saying, mr. speaker, i'd better the right— gave way by saying, mr. speaker, i'd better the right honourable gsniisnon— i'd better the right honourable gentleman come— i'd better the right honourable gentleman come in or he may he

may— gentleman come in or he may he may pussi— gentleman come in or he may he may iuisi o— gentleman come in or he may he may burst a blood— gentleman come in or he may he may burst a blood gasket . so ed may burst a blood gasket. so ed in oni— may burst a blood gasket. so ed came in and made— may burst a blood gasket. so ed came in and made the point as war.— came in and made the point as usii. so— came in and made the point as usii. so oni— came in and made the point as well. so and there— came in and made the point as well. so and there we are. and insn— well. so and there we are. and insn us— well. so and there we are. and insn us won— well. so and there we are. and then we won, of— well. so and there we are. and then we won, of course, the vote oisoiuisiy— then we won, of course, the vote absolutely crushingly anyway. so. absolutely crushingly anyway. so. sui— absolutely crushingly anyway. so. sui ii-s— absolutely crushingly anyway. so. but it's one— absolutely crushingly anyway. so. but it's one of those things uniss— so. but it's one of those things unisi uniss— so. but it's one of those things under under pressure, i guess. do under under pressure, i guess. is you— under under pressure, i guess. is you noos— under under pressure, i guess. so you novs o— under under pressure, i guess. do you have a stiff drink after insi— do you have a stiff drink after in nignis— do you have a stiff drink after in nignis — do you have a stiff drink after that night? yeah— do you have a stiff drink after that night? i4iiii" yeah, do you have a stiff drink after that night? 4 yeah, i did. that night? yeah. yeah, i did. ani— that night? yeah. yeah, i did. and oi— that night? yeah. yeah, i did. and of course— that night? yeah. yeah, i did. and of course the— that night? 4 yeah, i did. and of course the following day liz and of course the following day iiz iiuss— and of course the following day liz truss resigned.— and of course the following day liz truss resigned. so my isnponsy— liz truss resigned. so my temporary sojourn in the cabinet io— temporary sojourn in the cabinet came to an end— temporary sojourn in the cabinet came to an end that night i was on oussiion— came to an end that night i was on question time— came to an end that night i was on question time and i had ssosyns— on question time and i had everyone coming on number 10, uunisi— everyone coming on number 10, uunisi io— everyone coming on number 10, uunisi is on— everyone coming on number 10, number 10 on are— everyone coming on number 10, number 10 on are they saying yous— number 10 on are they saying you puiiing— number 10 on are they saying you're pulling out of question iinss— you're pulling out of question iinss io— you're pulling out of question time? to which— you're pulling out of question time? to which i— you're pulling out of question time? to which i said, well, i ion-i— time? to which i said, well, i ion-i inink— time? to which i said, well, i don't think so.— time? to which i said, well, i don't think so. and then ssosyns— don't think so. and then everyone -the. don't think so. and then everyone the day don't think so. and then- everyone -the day was everyone through the day was sung— everyone through the day was isiiing-ois— everyone through the day was telling-are-are- everyone through the day was telling are are you telling me, are you are you osiuoiiy— telling me, are you are you usiuuiiy going— telling me, are you are you actually going on until eventually— actually going on until eventually took me eventually fiona bruce took me uiin— eventually fiona bruce took me win-ionis— eventually fiona bruce took me uiin-nonislny- eventually fiona bruce took me with hands my arm and with both hands on my arm and spig— with both hands on my arm and soisi-son-i— with both hands on my arm and said,-can't believe- said, oh, we can't believe yous— said, oh, we can't believe yous-ai— said, oh, we can't believe you're-at which- you're here. at which point i was thinking,— you're here. at which point i was thinking, what am i? why am i was thinking, what am i? why am i nsss— was thinking, what am i? why am i nsss rinsi— was thinking, what am i? why am i here? what am— was thinking, what am i? why am i here? what am i— was thinking, what am i? why am i here? what am i doing here? nos— i here? what am i doing here? more ironi— i here? what am i doing here? more from graham— i here? what am i doing here? more from graham stuart- i here? what am i doing here? more from graham stuart after the break. so i think the net zero, although— the break. so i think the net zero, although it's- so i think the net zero, although it's seen as some son— zero, although it's seen as some sonlgssn— zero, although it's seen as some sort-green conceit— zero, although it's seen as some sort green conceit some, sort of green conceit by some, osiuoiiy— sort of green conceit by some, actually opportunity actually offers an opportunity for economic— actually offers an opportunity for economic renaissance for the

uk for economic renaissance for the us oni— for economic renaissance for the uk and industrial— for economic renaissance for the uk and industrial renaissance .

personal question now you separated from your wife last yean separated from your wife last year, of course . i don't need to year, of course. i don't need to know the details of what happened. obviously, it's upsetting for everybody involved . but what i did want to ask you aboutis . but what i did want to ask you about is whether parliamentary working . the fact that people working. the fact that people are away from home for most of the week. does parliamentary working contribute to families breaking down or put a strain on families? well as i mean, the divorce rate is pretty high in parliament, but so yeah, it puts it puts strains on families and depending on where you live as well, of course, if you don't

move together and you're separated, then it can put, put pressure on. so it can do. but i issn— pressure on. so it can do. but i issn nonisi— pressure on. so it can do. but i been married for,— ii iii" so it can do. but i been married for, what, 33 ysoiss— been married for, what, 33 ysuiss yus-vs— been married for, what, 33 years? we've got two lovely sougnisis— years? we've got two lovely daughters and,— years? we've got two lovely daughters and, and i still have a daughters and, and i still have u goos— daughters and, and i still have a good relationship . so, you a good relationship. so, you know.— a good relationship. so, you know. in— a good relationship. so, you know, i'm grateful as i think sns— know, i'm grateful as i think sns is— know, i'm grateful as i think sns is ion— know, i'm grateful as i think she is for what— know, i'm grateful as i think she is for what we've what we puiii— she is for what we've what we built together— she is for what we've what we built together ._ she is for what we've what we built together . albie we'll now built together. albie we'll now be built together. albie we'll now is doing— built together. albie we'll now is doing ii— built together. albie we'll now be doing it separately. me okay . so i— be doing it separately. me okay . so i ws— be doing it separately. me okay , so i was looking— be doing it separately. me okay , so i was looking at old iniswisws— , so i was looking at old interviews that- , so i was looking at old interviews that you have given issouss— interviews that you have given issuss yous— interviews that you have given because you've been in parliament— because you've been in parliament since 2005. um, so you— parliament since 2005. um, so you wss— parliament since 2005. um, so you siss— parliament since 2005. um, so you were there as— parliament since 2005. um, so you were there as that labour government one term and then you were there as that labour government lost that power. so this is an interview with the guardian ten years ago. you said you wanted public spending cuts faster and that you deplore welfare dependency . just wonder welfare dependency. just wonder ten years later, where does graham stewart still hold the same views? have you changed your mind on anything ? well, you

your mind on anything? well, you probably have changed— i i: 97 well, you probably have changed your mind on inings— probably have changed your mind on some things, but the fundamentals- on some things, but the fundamentals i believe in trying in ins— fundamentals i believe in trying in is winus— fundamentals i believe in trying in the virtue of— fundamentals i believe in trying in the virtue of work, of trying to in the virtue of work, of trying io nois— in the virtue of work, of trying to make work— in the virtue of work, of trying to make work pay.— in the virtue of work, of trying to make work pay. i'm proud of win— to make work pay. i'm proud of wnoi inis— to make work pay. i'm proud of what this government has done. you know— what this government has done. you know ,— what this government has done. you know . os— what this government has done. you know , one of— what this government has done. you know , one of the you know, you know, one of the you know, ins— you know, one of the you know, is iiopss— you know, one of the you know, the tropes against— you know, one of the you know, the tropes against labour governments— the tropes against labour governments and it's a fair one, is insi— governments and it's a fair one, is is insy— governments and it's a fair one, is that they always— governments and it's a fair one, is that they always end up with nignsi— is that they always end up with higher unemployment at the end inun— higher unemployment at the end inon-isginning— higher unemployment at the end inon-isginning .— higher unemployment at the end than beginning . there's no than the beginning. there's no iigniiy— than the beginning. there's no iigni-insi— than the beginning. there's no dignity that. getting dignity in that. and so getting psopis— dignity in that. and so getting psopis inio— dignity in that. and so getting people into work, which have dignity in that. and so getting peoplwith,» work, which have dignity in that. and so getting peoplwith, yourk, which have dignity in that. and so getting peoplwith, you know, ch have dignity in that. and so getting peoplwith, you know, the have dignity in that. and so getting peoplwith, you know, the kind ve dignity in that. and so getting peoplwith, you know, the kind of done with, you know, the kind of wssy— done with, you know, the kind of wssy-snpioynsni- done with, you know, the kind of very employment rates by very high employment rates by nosing— very high employment rates by making wow— very high employment rates by making wow pay,— very high employment rates by making work pay, raising the iiying— making work pay, raising the iiwing wags,— making work pay, raising the iiwing wogs. i— making work pay, raising the living wage, i think we've made an enormous positive difference to an enormous positive difference io psopis-s— an enormous positive difference to people's lives— an enormous positive difference to people's lives in terms of insi— to people's lives in terms of insii iigniiy— to people's lives in terms of insii iigniiy .— to people's lives in terms of their dignity , their ability to their dignity, their ability to wow— their dignity, their ability to wow oni— their dignity, their ability to work and the— their dignity, their ability to work and the income that they iiougni— work and the income that they piougni nons— work and the income that they brought home as— work and the income that they brought home as well. and that's a brought home as well. and that's o sonsswoiiws— brought home as well. and that's a conservative vision rather inan— a conservative vision rather in psopis— a conservative vision rather than people being trapped in ispsnisnsy— than people being trapped in dependency, which what dependency, which is what i oinoisi— dependency, which is what i oinoisi .— dependency, which is what i abhorred . and— dependency, which is what i abhorred . and especially with abhorred. and especially with insi— abhorred. and especially with is kind— abhorred. and especially with is kind oi— abhorred. and especially with that kind of rather unhealthy sioiionsnip— that kind of rather unhealthy relationship as— that kind of rather unhealthy relationship as i— that kind of rather unhealthy relationship as i would see it wiin— relationship as i would see it wiin ins— relationship as i would see it with the labour— relationship as i would see it with the labour party, where economic dysfunction actually soniiiiuiss— economic dysfunction actually contributes to _ economic dysfunction actually contributes to electoral success. and - contributes to electoral success. and what you've got to do success. and what you've got to so is— success. and what you've got to so is noks — success. and what you've got to do is make sure— success. and what you've got to do is make sure that that's not ins— do is make sure that that's not is sos-ss— do is make sure that that's not is i— do is make sure that that's not the case. i remember saying to a

iii— the case. i remember saying to a iii in— the case. i remember saying to a iii in uuii— the case. i remember saying to a new mp in hull and— the case. i remember saying to a new mp in hull and i was saying, war,— new mp in hull and i was saying, war, yous— new mp in hull and i was saying, well, your predecessor was , you well, your predecessor was, you know.— well, your predecessor was, you ynow so— well, your predecessor was, you know, was 30 years— well, your predecessor was, you know, was 30 years ago, was saying — know, was 30 years ago, was saying now— know, was 30 years ago, was saying how dreadful everything ani— saying how dreadful everything and so— saying how dreadful everything was. and 30 years on, they're noi— was. and 30 years on, they're noi ony— was. and 30 years on, they're not any better. _ was. and 30 years on, they're not any better. even after 30 ysois— not any better. even after 30 ysois oi— not any better. even after 30 years of labour— not any better. even after 30 years of labour government. so you— years of labour government. so you know,— years of labour government. so you know. i— years of labour government. so you know. i nops— years of labour government. so you know, i hope you know , any you know, i hope you know, any of you know, i hope you know, any oi us— you know, i hope you know, any of us, regardless— you know, i hope you know, any of us, regardless of— you know, i hope you know, any of us, regardless of our poiiiiss— of us, regardless of our politics, would make sure that the politics, would make sure that is psopis— politics, would make sure that is psopis ws— politics, would make sure that the people we represent were isiisi— the people we represent were isiisi oii— the people we represent were isiisi oii .— the people we represent were better off , had— the people we represent were better off , had more dignity, better off, had more dignity, isiisi— better off, had more dignity, isiisi spis— better off, had more dignity, better able to— better off, had more dignity, better able to make their own issisions— better able to make their own issisions in— better able to make their own decisions in lives— better able to make their own decisions in lives and could sorry— decisions in lives and could sony on— decisions in lives and could carry on thinking that all government— carry on thinking that all government was useless and insiswoni. — government was useless and irrelevant. because what irrelevant. because that's what nuppsns.—psopisl happens. you know, people can be like happens. you know, people can be iiys—insy-ys— like that when they've got soniioi— like that when they've got soniioi oi— like that when they've got control of their— like that when they've got control of their own lives. and insis— control of their own lives. and inoi-s o— control of their own lives. and inoi-s o wssy— control of their own lives. and that's a very conservative paraprg, — that's a very conservative- principle, _strongly that's a very conservative- piioyoy _siiongiy that's a very conservative- priiokay, let's-strongly that's a very conservative priiokay, let's look strongly that's a very conservative priiokay, let's look at strongly that's a very conservative priiokay, let's look at yourngly to. okay, let's look at your insi— to. okay, let's look at your iiisi . — to. okay, let's look at your iiisi. so— to. okay, let's look at your brief . so when- to. okay, let's look at your brief . i brief. so when you look at opinion polls , everyone says we opinion polls, everyone says we want to save the planet. we want action to save the planet. if you ask people what if it personally affects you? what if , if you have to have a low traffic neighbourhood so you have to pay to drive locally or that you won't be able to have a new gas boiler because there

won't be any gas boilers . the won't be any gas boilers. the enthusiasm for the net zero project wins significantly . do project wins significantly. do you think the public are being heard on those concern as well ? heard on those concern as well? i guess they are, but equally ins— i guess they are, but equally ins ssisss— i guess they are, but equally the science is— i guess they are, but equally the science is just cruel, isn't it? the science is just cruel, isn't pp ani— the science is just cruel, isn't pp ans ii— the science is just cruel, isn't it? and it gets— the science is just cruel, isn't it? and it gets the consensus gsis— it? and it gets the consensus gsis siiongsi— it? and it gets the consensus gets stronger and stronger if we ion-i— gets stronger and stronger if we ion-i psok— gets stronger and stronger if we ion-i psoy ou— gets stronger and stronger if we don't peak our emissions pretty wsii— don't peak our emissions pretty well, immediate— don't peak our emissions pretty well, immediate albie and have signiiisoni— well, immediate albie and have significant cuts— well, immediate albie and have significant cuts by— well, immediate albie and have significant cuts by 2030, then the significant cuts by 2030, then is pionsi— significant cuts by 2030, then the planet will— significant cuts by 2030, then the planet will continue to heat up is — the planet will continue to heat up is wsoyssi— the planet will continue to heat up the weakest and poorest on the up the weakest and poorest on is pionsi— up the weakest and poorest on the planet will— up the weakest and poorest on the planet will suffer the most. so the planet will suffer the most. so insis— the planet will suffer the most. so inoi-s ins— the planet will suffer the most. so that's the kind— the planet will suffer the most. so that's the kind of big pisius— so that's the kind of big picture. but— so that's the kind of big picture. but you're right, to ssns.— picture. but you're right, to gong, soy,— picture. but you're right, to gloria, say, we've also got to ping— gloria, say, we've also got to ping ii— gloria, say, we've also got to wing ii sown— gloria, say, we've also got to bring it down to— gloria, say, we've also got to bring it down to people's swsiyouy— bring it down to people's everyday lives.- bring it down to people's everyday lives. well, i think in the everyday lives. well, i think in is us— everyday lives. well, i think in is us .— everyday lives. well, i think in the uk , notwithstanding some of the uk, notwithstanding some of inoss— the uk, notwithstanding some of inoss psisonoi— the uk, notwithstanding some of those personal interventions , as those personal interventions, as you— those personal interventions, as you soy,— those personal interventions, as you say insi— those personal interventions, as you say, that could— those personal interventions, as you say, that could at times be unwelcome. but— you say, that could at times be unwelcome. but we've got a isnsnious— unwelcome. but we've got a tremendous opportunity . when we tremendous opportunity. when we isos— tremendous opportunity. when we iooy-ins— tremendous opportunity. when we iooy-ins sop— tremendous opportunity. when we took the cop presidency, took over the cop presidency, you— took over the cop presidency, you know,— took over the cop presidency, you know. ins— took over the cop presidency, you know, the un process , only you know, the un process, only sow— you know, the un process, only sos oi— you know, the un process, only sos oi gioioi— you know, the un process, only 30% of global wealth was covered by nsi— 30% of global wealth was covered by nsi sss— 30% of global wealth was covered by net zero pledges. by the time ws-i— by net zero pledges. by the time ws-i iinisissi— by net zero pledges. by the time we'd finished, it— by net zero pledges. by the time we'd finished, it was 90. so the

wows.— we'd finished, it was 90. so the woiii, you— we'd finished, it was 90. so the world, you know,— we'd finished, it was 90. so the world, you know, people who have to world, you know, people who have is wow— world, you know, people who have is wowy oioui— world, you know, people who have to worry about getting re—elected_ to worry about getting re—elected all over the world nows — re—elected all over the world have recognised— re—elected all over the world have recognised the science is psiiy— have recognised the science is pretty unarguable, but if you isos— pretty unarguable, but if you iooy oi— pretty unarguable, but if you iooy oi ins— pretty unarguable, but if you look at the uk— pretty unarguable, but if you look at the uk and you see all oiisnos— look at the uk and you see all our offshore wind,— look at the uk and you see all our offshore wind, which we've ions — our offshore wind, which we've ions o— our offshore wind, which we've done a tremendous job of oswsioping— done a tremendous job of developing under this government, i'm very proud to say— government, i'm very proud to soy ii— government, i'm very proud to soy ii ws— government, i'm very proud to say if we capture— government, i'm very proud to say if we capture all of the renewables_ say if we capture all of the renewables that— say if we capture all of the renewables that we've we renewables that we've got, we sonsn— renewables that we've got, we sonsn inoi— renewables that we've got, we convert that hydrogen , convert that into hydrogen, wnisn— convert that into hydrogen, which important part of which is an important part of ins— which is an important part of ins-ano— which is an important part of the-and.make- which is an important part of. the-and.make-of the future. and we make use of the future. and we make use of is soio— the future. and we make use of the carbon capture— the future. and we make use of the carbon capture that we have in ins— the carbon capture that we have in is wooin— the carbon capture that we have in the north sea,— the carbon capture that we have in the north sea, depleted oil oni— in the north sea, depleted oil oni gos— in the north sea, depleted oil oni gos wsiis— in the north sea, depleted oil and gas wells. we took wealth out and gas wells. we took wealth oui in— and gas wells. we took wealth oui in ins— and gas wells. we took wealth out in the form _ and gas wells. we took wealth out in the form of— and gas wells. we took wealth out in the form of oil and gas. ws— out in the form of oil and gas. ws son— out in the form of oil and gas. ws pui— out in the form of oil and gas. we can put carbon— out in the form of oil and gas. we can put carbon back in there oni— we can put carbon back in there oni provisos— we can put carbon back in there oni piowiis o— we can put carbon back in there and provide a service the and provide a service to the ssi— and provide a service to the ssiliuiops.— and provide a service to the rest.europe..i- and provide a service to the rest europe. i think going rest of europe. so i think going ioswoni— rest of europe. so i think going forward, there's— rest of europe. so i think going forward, there's a— rest of europe. so i think going forward, there's a real chance inoi— forward, there's a real chance is ws— forward, there's a real chance that we could— forward, there's a real chance that we could actually have onongsi— that we could actually have amongst competitor that we could actually have- amongst-competitor of amongst the most competitor of sissiiisiiy— amongst the most competitor of electricity prices— amongst the most competitor of electricity prices in europe in a electricity prices in europe in o ioigsiy— electricity prices in europe in a largely electrified economy . a largely electrified economy. so a largely electrified economy. is inss-s— a largely electrified economy. so there's more— a largely electrified economy. so there's more jobs and where are so there's more jobs and where insy— so there's more jobs and where insy iiysiy— so there's more jobs and where are they likely to _ so there's more jobs and where are they likely to be? the nosii—sosi— are they likely to be? the north—east, the north—west, ssoiioni— north—east, the north—west, scotland, wales,— north—east, the north—west, scotland, wales, the very areas wnisn— scotland, wales, the very areas wnisn wnsn— scotland, wales, the very areas which when you— scotland, wales, the very areas which when you talk about iswsiiing— which when you talk about iswsiiing up,— which when you talk about levelling up, which might apply to levelling up, which might apply io ins— levelling up, which might apply io ins-sunny,- levelling up, which might apply to the country, but means to the whole country, but means nosi— to the whole country, but means nosi i— to the whole country, but means nosi i inink— to the whole country, but means most i think-those— to the whole country, but means most i think those those most i think in those those iniusiiioi— most i think in those those industrial areas— most i think in those those industrial areas of the country inoi— industrial areas of the country inoi-isii— industrial areas of the country that-left behind.- industrial areas of the country that left behind. so that felt left behind. so i inink— that felt left behind. so i

ininy-nsi— that felt left behind. so i think-net zero,- that felt left behind. so i think net zero, although think the net zero, although it's think the net zero, although is s— think the net zero, although ii-s os— think the net zero, although it's seen as some sort of green sonssii— it's seen as some sort of green sonssii iy— it's seen as some sort of green sonssii iy sons— it's seen as some sort of green conceit by some, actually offers an conceit by some, actually offers on—ioi— conceit by some, actually offers an_for economic- an opportunity for economic renaissance for— an opportunity for economic renaissance for the uk, an iniusiiioi— renaissance for the uk, an industrial renaissance. and inoi-s— industrial renaissance. and inoi-s wssy— industrial renaissance. and that's very much the vision that soni— that's very much the vision that soon snopps— that's very much the vision that grant shapps and— that's very much the vision that grant shapps and my department and grant shapps and my department oni i— grant shapps and my department oni i os— grant shapps and my department and i are pursuing— grant shapps and my department and i are pursuing to deliver a iow— and i are pursuing to deliver a iow sosi— and i are pursuing to deliver a iow sosi gssn— and i are pursuing to deliver a low cost green system in which you— low cost green system in which you psopis— low cost green system in which you psopis os— low cost green system in which you people are not— low cost green system in which you people are not paying iniougn— you people are not paying through there— you people are not paying through there with jobs and piospsniy— through there with jobs and piospsniy iow— through there with jobs and prosperity for what is an ssssniioi— prosperity for what is an essential response to the science. and— essential response to the science. and finally , what do science. and finally, what do you— science. and finally, what do you soy— science. and finally, what do you soy io— science. and finally, what do you soy io ins— science. and finally, what do you say to the mum who says, is— you say to the mum who says, is goi— you say to the mum who says, is goi io— you say to the mum who says, is goi io inop— you say to the mum who says, i've got to drop my kids off at ssnoois — i've got to drop my kids off at ssnoois ii-s— i've got to drop my kids off at school? it's costing- i've got to drop my kids off at school? c i g school? it's costing me a fortune to the handyman who says , this is my lifeline. i have to drive with my van to get to work . they are probably not with you because they're paying an arm and a leg . erg well, the aim and a leg. erg well, the aim wssy— and a leg. erg well, the aim wssy nusn— and a leg. erg well, the aim wssy nusn is— and a leg. erg well, the aim very much is to— and a leg. erg well, the aim very much is to see,- m: gig erg well, the aim very much is to see, as we have is ins— very much is to see, as we have seen, is the cost— very much is to see, as we have seen, is the cost of— very much is to see, as we have seen, is the cost of green iniusiiiss— seen, is the cost of green industries and— seen, is the cost of green industries and services coming sown.— industries and services coming down. i— industries and services coming down. i sson— industries and services coming down. i mean, offshore wind just off down. i mean, offshore wind just oii ny— down. i mean, offshore wind just oii ny poisn— down. i mean, offshore wind just oii ny poisn ii— down. i mean, offshore wind just off my patch, it was £120 a

nsgowoii— off my patch, it was £120 a megawatt hour— off my patch, it was £120 a megawatt hour in 2015 auction by just megawatt hour in 2015 auction by iusi iwo— megawatt hour in 2015 auction by just two auctions— megawatt hour in 2015 auction by just two auctions later in 2019, it just two auctions later in 2019, ii os— just two auctions later in 2019, ii iii.— just two auctions later in 2019, ii iii. io— just two auctions later in 2019, it was £39, 50 rolling out renewables_ it was £39, 50 rolling out renewables is— it was £39, 50 rolling out renewables is actually lowering the renewables is actually lowering ins sosi— renewables is actually lowering ins sosi oi— renewables is actually lowering the cost of our— renewables is actually lowering the cost of our energy system. its— the cost of our energy system. its spsnsis — the cost of our energy system. it's expensive. fossil fuels wnisn— it's expensive. fossil fuels wnisn os— it's expensive. fossil fuels which are making everyone's snsigy— which are making everyone's snsigy iiiis— which are making everyone's energy bills so— which are making everyone's energy bills so high at the nonsni — energy bills so high at the nonsni so— energy bills so high at the moment. so we- energy bills so high at the moment. so we are going hell for isoinsi— moment. so we are going hell for isoinsi io— moment. so we are going hell for leather to increase— moment. so we are going hell for leather to increase and capture all leather to increase and capture oii ins— leather to increase and capture oii ins gssn— leather to increase and capture all the green energy. and if we io— all the green energy. and if we io inoi— all the green energy. and if we can do that properly and have the can do that properly and have is gno— can do that properly and have is giii oni— can do that properly and have the grid and the— can do that properly and have the grid and the charging infrastructure, _ the grid and the charging infrastructure, then the cost of snoiging— infrastructure, then the cost of snoiging yous— infrastructure, then the cost of charging your car— infrastructure, then the cost of charging your car should turn out charging your car should turn oui in— charging your car should turn oui in iong— charging your car should turn out in long term— charging your car should turn out in long term to be lower. i nops— out in long term to be lower. i nops, inon— out in long term to be lower. i hope, than that— out in long term to be lower. i hope, than that of— out in long term to be lower. i hope, than that of sticking in iiiiny— hope, than that of sticking in some filthy substance which you insn— some filthy substance which you insn iuin— some filthy substance which you then burn poisoning the air for all then burn poisoning the air for oi oi— then burn poisoning the air for oi oi us— then burn poisoning the air for oi oi io— then burn poisoning the air for all of us. so i— then burn poisoning the air for all of us. so i it's— then burn poisoning the air for all of us. so i it's not i don't inink— all of us. so i it's not i don't think there's— all of us. so i it's not i don't think there's a— all of us. so i it's not i don't think there's a contradiction insis— think there's a contradiction inss. in— think there's a contradiction there. i'm not— think there's a contradiction there. i'm not saying it's sniisiy— there. i'm not saying it's entirely cost— there. i'm not saying it's entirely cost free and there isn-i— entirely cost free and there isn-i sons— entirely cost free and there isn't some inconvenience, but i inink— isn't some inconvenience, but i ininy ins— isn't some inconvenience, but i think the vision— isn't some inconvenience, but i think the vision that we can isiiwsi— think the vision that we can isiiwsi is— think the vision that we can deliver is of— think the vision that we can deliver is of a— think the vision that we can deliver is of a greener country inoi— deliver is of a greener country is soon— deliver is of a greener country that leads the— deliver is of a greener country that leads the world, develops the that leads the world, develops ins—inossl the technology, sells those soiuiions— the technology, sells those solutions - and l the technology, sells those . solutions - and does the technology, sells those - solutions-and does so solutions elsewhere and does so in o— solutions elsewhere and does so in o woy— solutions elsewhere and does so in o woy wnisn— solutions elsewhere and does so in a way which leaves us as the nosi— in a way which leaves us as the most competitive— in a way which leaves us as the most competitive economy in iuiops. — most competitive economy in europe. _deliver- most competitive economy in europe. deliver all europe. if we can deliver all iioi— europe. if we can deliver all inoi-ws-ys— europe. if we can deliver all that,-we've done- europe. if we can deliver all that, we've done right by

that, then we've done right by the that, then we've done right by is pionsi— that, then we've done right by the planet. well,— that, then we've done right by the planet. well, we've also ions— the planet. well, we've also ions iigni— the planet. well, we've also done right-the - the planet. well, we've also done right the handyman the planet. well, we've also done riihis the handyman the planet. well, we've also done riihis vanhe handyman the planet. well, we've also done riihis van and andyman the planet. well, we've also done riihis van and ablenan the planet. well, we've also done riihis van and able ton the planet. well, we've also done riihis van and able to go driving his van and able to go oni— driving his van and able to go oni sswiss— driving his van and able to go and service, you— driving his van and able to go and service, you know, families up oni— and service, you know, families up oni iown— and service, you know, families up and down the— and service, you know, families up and down the country and look oiisn— up and down the country and look oiisi-in— up and down the country and look after-in.affordable- up and down the country and look after in affordable way. after them in an affordable way. issuin— after them in an affordable way. graham stuart— after them in an affordable way. graham stuart ,_ after them in an affordable way. graham stuart , thank you very graham stuart, thank you very nusn— graham stuart, thank you very nusn inissi— graham stuart, thank you very much indeed. _ graham stuart, thank you very much indeed . g e. much indeed. coming up, conservative mp jo gideon. you see a little toddler died after swallowing a button battery. and i promised her mother, stacy and and i promised her mother, stacy oni ii-s— and i promised her mother, stacy oni is o— and i promised her mother, stacy and it's a campaign— and i promised her mother, stacy and it's a campaign with a local nswspopsi— and it's a campaign with a local nswspopsi os— and it's a campaign with a local newspaper as well— and it's a campaign with a local newspaper as well that we would nois— newspaper as well that we would make sure that— newspaper as well that we would make sure that the— newspaper as well that we would make sure that the button ioiisiiss— make sure that the button batteries there's more safety .

jo gideon , the conservative mp jo gideon, the conservative mp for jo gideon, the conservative mp ioi sioks— jo gideon, the conservative mp ioi sioys on— jo gideon, the conservative mp for stoke on trent— jo gideon, the conservative mp for stoke on trent central, sissisi— for stoke on trent central, sissisi .— for stoke on trent central, sissisi . in— for stoke on trent central, elected . in 2019. if?" e elected. in 2019. i can't isiisws— elected. in 2019. i can't believe how old you are, actually. thank you. you're 70.

so you were elected to parliament for the first time at 67? yes do you think there's any ageism in parliament? well, i just don't accept any- g " 7 well,i just don't accept any sort of gioss— just don't accept any sort of glass ceilings— just don't accept any sort of glass ceilings and barriers . but glass ceilings and barriers. but yes,— glass ceilings and barriers. but yss, ssnoiniy— glass ceilings and barriers. but yes, certainly there is. i think you— yes, certainly there is. i think you noos— yes, certainly there is. i think you is io— yes, certainly there is. i think you have to have— yes, certainly there is. i think you have to have a huge level of ssiiisnss— you have to have a huge level of ssiiisnss io— you have to have a huge level of resilience to become an mp and, you— resilience to become an mp and, you know,— resilience to become an mp and, you know. is— resilience to become an mp and, you know, i've just— resilience to become an mp and, you know, i've just kind of kept going— you know, i've just kind of kept going oni— you know, i've just kind of kept going oni you— you know, i've just kind of kept going and, you know, i don't ossspi— going and, you know, i don't ossspi psopis— going and, you know, i don't accept people saying there are insss— accept people saying there are these barriers,— accept people saying there are these barriers, but but there oiso. you— these barriers, but but there are also, you have been married oni— are also, you have been married oni iiyoissi— are also, you have been married and divorced four— are also, you have been married and divorced four times as that musi— and divorced four times as that nusi noos— and divorced four times as that must have kept— and divorced four times as that must have kept you busy . indeed. must have kept you busy. indeed. and must have kept you busy. indeed. ani inoi-s— must have kept you busy. indeed. and that's probably— must have kept you busy. indeed. and that's probably why i went to and that's probably why i went io poiiiiss— and that's probably why i went to politics late— and that's probably why i went to politics late in— and that's probably why i went to politics late in life . you're to politics late in life. you're happy— to politics late in life. you're noppy now— to politics late in life. you're noppy s— to politics late in life. you're happy now ? very happy. i mean , happy now? very happy. i mean, it's happy now? very happy. i mean, ii-s o— happy now? very happy. i mean, it's a massive— happy now? very happy. i mean, it's a massive privilege to be an it's a massive privilege to be on is.— it's a massive privilege to be on iii. ani— it's a massive privilege to be an mp. and, you— it's a massive privilege to be an mp. and, you know, i've never wowsi— an mp. and, you know, i've never worked harder.— an mp. and, you know, i've never worked harder. i've— an mp. and, you know, i've never worked harder. i've never had noi— worked harder. i've never had noi noi— worked harder. i've never had noi noi os— worked harder. i've never had had had as much— worked harder. i've never had had had as much on my plate, but sguoiiy— had had as much on my plate, but sguoiiy .— had had as much on my plate, but sguoiiy . you— had had as much on my plate, but sguoiiy . you know,— had had as much on my plate, but equally , you know, who wouldn't equally, you know, who wouldn't woni— equally, you know, who wouldn't woni io, — equally, you know, who wouldn't woni is, you— equally, you know, who wouldn't

want to, you know,— equally, you know, who wouldn't want to, you know, get up early , 90— want to, you know, get up early . go io— want to, you know, get up early . go is isi— want to, you know, get up early . go io isi iois— want to, you know, get up early , go to bed late and have lots of , go to bed late and have lots oi nossis— , go to bed late and have lots oi nossis in— , go to bed late and have lots of hassle in a— , go to bed late and have lots of hassle in a job— , go to bed late and have lots of hassle in a job that that is nossiysiy— of hassle in a job that that is massively demanding but nossiysiy— massively demanding but massively satisfying . 4i. massively satisfying. you ssiiisnss— massively satisfying. you mentioned hassle . has hassle mentioned hassle. has hassle ever turned into abuse? yes yes. and i do think that had i gons— yes. and i do think that had i gons r..— yes. and i do think that had i gons in, io— yes. and i do think that had i gons in, is is— yes. and i do think that had i gone in, to be honest, as a youngsi— gone in, to be honest, as a youngsi ogs— gone in, to be honest, as a youngsi ogs, i— gone in, to be honest, as a younger age, i might not have issn— younger age, i might not have issn oiis— younger age, i might not have issn oiis io— younger age, i might not have been able to handle that as wsii— been able to handle that as wsii. i— been able to handle that as well. i think— been able to handle that as well. i think that my advanced yss— well. i think that my advanced yss i— well. i think that my advanced yss i know— well. i think that my advanced years, i know who— well. i think that my advanced years, i know who i am, i know wnoi— years, i know who i am, i know wnoi ny— years, i know who i am, i know wnoi ny iuss— years, i know who i am, i know what my values are— years, i know who i am, i know what my values are and whilst in — what my values are and whilst i'm happy— what my values are and whilst in noppy iow— what my values are and whilst i'm happy for people to express opinions— i'm happy for people to express opinions oni— i'm happy for people to express opinions and, you— i'm happy for people to express opinions and, you know, all siiss— opinions and, you know, all siiss oi— opinions and, you know, all sides of the— opinions and, you know, all sides of the spectrum , i'm a bit sides of the spectrum, i'm a bit old fashioned— sides of the spectrum, i'm a bit old fashioned in— sides of the spectrum, i'm a bit old fashioned in that i do isiisws— old fashioned in that i do believe that— old fashioned in that i do believe that we need to be sspssiiui— believe that we need to be respectful of _ believe that we need to be respectful of each other and we do respectful of each other and we is nssi— respectful of each other and we is nssi io — respectful of each other and we do need to use— respectful of each other and we do need to use appropriate ionguogs— do need to use appropriate ionguogs. ani— do need to use appropriate language. and so, you know, i soiiy— language. and so, you know, i soiiy ion-i— language. and so, you know, i really don't like— language. and so, you know, i really don't like the kind of ysyiooii— really don't like the kind of keyboard warriors that you get inoi— keyboard warriors that you get is issi. — keyboard warriors that you get that feel. it's— keyboard warriors that you get that feel. it's okay because of your— that feel. it's okay because of your poiiiisoi— that feel. it's okay because of your political party to be very oiusiws— your political party to be very oiusiys io. — your political party to be very abusive to. so— your political party to be very abusive to. so if— your political party to be very abusive to. �*7 siiii your political party to be very abusive to. �*7 iii iii abusive to. so if there are people in their mid 60 seconds

watching this thinking you know what i thought it would be, i've always wanted to be an mp , but i always wanted to be an mp, but i thought it might be too late for me. it's not. what advice would you— me. it's not. what advice would you is— me. it's not. what advice would you giws insns— e what advice would you give them? absolutely. go for you give them? absolutely. go ioi ii.— you give them? absolutely. go ion is so— you give them? absolutely. go ion is so i— you give them? absolutely. go for it. so i always— you give them? absolutely. go for it. so i always say i was on a for it. so i always say i was on owssy— for it. so i always say i was on owssy iong— for it. so i always say i was on a very long apprenticeship isios— a very long apprenticeship isios i— a very long apprenticeship before i became a member of iowiionsni— before i became a member of parliament, 17— before i became a member of parliament, 17 years from when i insi— parliament, 17 years from when i is wsni— parliament, 17 years from when i is wsni on— parliament, 17 years from when i first went on the— parliament, 17 years from when i first went on the candidate list to first went on the candidate list is issoning— first went on the candidate list to becoming an— first went on the candidate list to becoming an mp. and of souiss,|noi— to becoming an mp. and of course,ihad i— to becoming an mp. and of course, had i had to attempts course, i had i had to attempts in ins— course, i had i had to attempts in is un— course, i had i had to attempts in is up— course, i had i had to attempts in the run up to— course, i had i had to attempts in the run up to being elected in the run up to being elected in sioks— in the run up to being elected in stoke-trent— in the run up to being elected in stoke trent central . but in stoke on trent central. but inoi— in stoke on trent central. but inoi-in— in stoke on trent central. but that-in itself- in stoke on trent central. but that-in itself was- in stoke on trent central. but that in itself was was that journey in itself was was nugsiy— that journey in itself was was hugely important . and you know, hugely important. and you know, i hugely important. and you know, i spsni— hugely important. and you know, i spsni io— hugely important. and you know, i spsni ii ysos— hugely important. and you know, i spent 13 years in— hugely important. and you know, i spent 13 years in local government— i spent 13 years in local government .- i spent 13 years in local government . and i think once government. and i think once yous— government. and i think once you goi— government. and i think once you've got understanding of you've got an understanding of gross— you've got an understanding of gross ioois— you've got an understanding of grass roots politics, that helps snoinousiy— grass roots politics, that helps snoinousiylo— grass roots politics, that helps enormouslyla-as- enormously in a role as a constituent. _ enormously in a role as a constituent. gap is enormously in a role as a constituent. ii 37�* enormously in a role as a constituent. ii?” enormously in a role as a- constituent. mp let's talk about your constituency. so stoke on trent takes more asylum seekers than most parts of the uk . there than most parts of the uk. there are two hotels in your constituency uses interim accommodation for asylum seekers. has there been any noticeable impact on community relations as a result? i think

the challenge— relations as a result? i think the challenge that- relations as a result? i think the challenge that we- 7 i think the challenge that we had i mean, we've always said that sioks— mean, we've always said that sioys on— mean, we've always said that stoke on trent— mean, we've always said that stoke on trent is— mean, we've always said that stoke on trent is a very wsisoning— stoke on trent is a very welcoming city and has been a iispsisoi— welcoming city and has been a dispersal area.— welcoming city and has been a dispersal area. so— welcoming city and has been a dispersal area. so they have wsisonsi— dispersal area. so they have welcomed, you— dispersal area. so they have welcomed, you know, more than insi— welcomed, you know, more than insii ion— welcomed, you know, more than their fair share.— welcomed, you know, more than their fair share. to— welcomed, you know, more than their fair share. to be honest, wnsn— their fair share. to be honest, wnsn you— their fair share. to be honest, when you look— their fair share. to be honest, when you look at— their fair share. to be honest, when you look at other cities of osyiun — when you look at other cities of asylum seekers,— when you look at other cities of asylum seekers, the challenge nos— asylum seekers, the challenge nos issn— asylum seekers, the challenge has been that— asylum seekers, the challenge has been that if— asylum seekers, the challenge has been that if you put people inis— has been that if you put people inio o— has been that if you put people inio o noisi— has been that if you put people into a hotel without the resources and - into a hotel without the resources and in an area where sioppsi— resources and in an area where we're strapped for— resources and in an area where we're strapped for resources to nsip— we're strapped for resources to nsip ins— we're strapped for resources to nsip ins psopis— we're strapped for resources to help the people who are already insis— help the people who are already inss oni— help the people who are already there and struggling, then on, you— there and struggling, then on, you know,— there and struggling, then on, you know, you're— there and struggling, then on, you know, you're going to have a sys— you know, you're going to have a isysi oi— you know, you're going to have a level of discontent— you know, you're going to have a level of discontent ._ you know, you're going to have a level of discontent . but level of discontent. but iosoiiy— level of discontent. but iosoiiy. i— level of discontent. but locally, i have- level of discontent. but locally, i have to say , you locally, i have to say, you know,— locally, i have to say, you know, organisations have been noos— know, organisations have been noys issn— know, organisations have been have been supportive of the individuals— have been supportive of the individuals and— have been supportive of the individuals and i think we have to differentiate— individuals and i think we have to differentiate between the individuals— to differentiate between the individuals who, you know, have oinsi— individuals who, you know, have oniwsi oni— individuals who, you know, have arrived and we— individuals who, you know, have arrived and we have a lot of ioniiiss— arrived and we have a lot of ioniiiss in— arrived and we have a lot of families in there. _ arrived and we have a lot of families in there. so you know, wssy— families in there. so you know, wssy iiiiisuii— families in there. so you know, very difficult circumstances . very difficult circumstances. sui— very difficult circumstances. iui ins — very difficult circumstances. but the system— very difficult circumstances. but the system which we feel is nos— but the system which we feel is nos issn— but the system which we feel is has been unfair— but the system which we feel is has been unfair towards the city oni— has been unfair towards the city oni ins— has been unfair towards the city and the council,— has been unfair towards the city and the council, all three of ins— and the council, all three of is sioks— and the council, all three of the stoke mps,—

and the council, all three of the stoke mps, all objected to the stoke mps, all objected to is — the stoke mps, all objected to the move. but— the stoke mps, all objected to the move. but the- the stoke mps, all objected to the move. g the move. but the government pressed ahead with the move to make those two hotels in your consortium agency interim accommodation for asylum seekers. what's it like when you object to your own party of government but you still have something done to you which you have expressed to decide not to be done your community? be done to your community? well, i think it's important. you— well, i think it's important. you know,— well, i think it's important. you know,-and- well, i think it's important. you know, and foremost, my you know, first and foremost, my noiio— you know, first and foremost, my noiiolpuiiing— you know, first and foremost, my motto putting people before motto is putting people before poiiiiss— motto is putting people before politics-first— motto is putting people before politics. -first and - politics. and first and foremost,— politics. and first and foremost, are a politics. and first and- foremost,-are a constituency foremost, you are a constituency iii.— foremost, you are a constituency iii—noos- foremost, you are a constituency iii—nos io- foremost, you are a constituency mp._have to standj mp. therefore you have to stand up ion— mp. therefore you have to stand up ion you— mp. therefore you have to stand up ion you know.— mp. therefore you have to stand up for, you know, what the psopis— up for, you know, what the psopis in— up for, you know, what the psopis in your— up for, you know, what the people in your constituency isiisys. — people in your constituency isiisys. so — people in your constituency believe. so you— people in your constituency believe. so you know, i trust is— believe. so you know, i trust i've consistently— believe. so you know, i trust i've consistently done that , but i've consistently done that, but i've consistently done that, but i on— i've consistently done that, but i on sissisi— i've consistently done that, but i am elected as— i've consistently done that, but i am elected as a— i've consistently done that, but i am elected as a conservative mp— i am elected as a conservative iii oni— i am elected as a conservative iii oni you— i am elected as a conservative mp and you know,— i am elected as a conservative mp and you know, so i will. i win— mp and you know, so i will. i wiii i— mp and you know, so i will. i wiii i win— mp and you know, so i will. i will i will back— mp and you know, so i will. i will i will back the government on our manifesto— will i will back the government on our manifesto promises ossosionoiiy— on our manifesto promises occasionally you get legislation wnss— occasionally you get legislation wnss you— occasionally you get legislation wnss you go— occasionally you get legislation wnss you go ,— occasionally you get legislation wnss you go . i— occasionally you get legislation where you go , i wouldn't have where you go, i wouldn't have pniossi— where you go, i wouldn't have pniossi ii— where you go, i wouldn't have phrased it like— where you go, i wouldn't have phrased it like that or , you phrased it like that or, you know.— phrased it like that or, you know. is— phrased it like that or, you know, it's not— phrased it like that or, you know, it's not quite what i wouii— know, it's not quite what i wouii noos— know, it's not quite what i would have liked to have seen or you— would have liked to have seen or you ion-i— would have liked to have seen or you in gsi— would have liked to have seen or you don't get legislation where you don't get legislation where you issi— you don't get legislation where you issi ii-s— you don't get legislation where you feel it's needed. so i've sonpoignsi— you feel it's needed. so i've sonpoignsi o— you feel it's needed. so i've campaigned a lot on obesity and

the campaigned a lot on obesity and is woiionoi— campaigned a lot on obesity and the national food— campaigned a lot on obesity and the national food strategy and you won— the national food strategy and you woni ins— the national food strategy and you want the government to do on iioi— you want the government to do more on that, don't you? 4i. more on that, don't you? you iniss— more on that, don't you? you iiini ii-s— more on that, don't you? you iiini ii-s posi— more on that, don't you? you think it's part of— more on that, don't you? you think it's part of the levelling up agenda, which could be made more of exactly . yeah. but the more of exactly. yeah. but the key more of exactly. yeah. but the ysy ining— more of exactly. yeah. but the ysy ining is— more of exactly. yeah. but the key thing is that— more of exactly. yeah. but the key thing is that that- more of exactly. yeah. but the key thing is that that i- ii clase�*eeeg yeah. but the key thing is that that i frame it key thing is that that i frame ii in— key thing is that that i frame ii in o— key thing is that that i frame ii in o woy— key thing is that that i frame it in a way that— key thing is that that i frame it in a way that that isn't anti—government. it's basically snsouioging— anti—government. it's basically encouraging the— anti—government. it's basically encouraging the government to isos— encouraging the government to iooy ogoin— encouraging the government to iooy ogoin oi— encouraging the government to look again at the— encouraging the government to look again at the decision that i look again at the decision that i isiisws— look again at the decision that i believe isn't— look again at the decision that i believe isn't right . and i believe isn't right. and inoi-s— i believe isn't right. and inoi-s ins— i believe isn't right. and that's the difference, isn't it, oioui— that's the difference, isn't it, oioui now— that's the difference, isn't it, about how you— that's the difference, isn't it, about how you go about politics? i about how you go about politics? i iy— about how you go about politics? i isy io— about how you go about politics? i iy io nois— about how you go about politics? iiy io noys ny— about how you go about politics? i try to make my point in a sort of conciliatory— i try to make my point in a sort of conciliatory way— i try to make my point in a sort of conciliatory way rather than snouiing — of conciliatory way rather than shouting from _ of conciliatory way rather than shouting from the rooftops in a nsgoiiws— shouting from the rooftops in a nsgoiiws woy. — shouting from the rooftops in a nsgoiiws woy. you— shouting from the rooftops in a negative way, you aren't seeking s—oiopiion— negative way, you aren't seeking s—oiopiion os— negative way, you aren't seeking re—adoption as the _ negative way, you aren't seeking re—adoption as the conservative soniiiois. — re—adoption as the conservative candidate. it's— re—adoption as the conservative candidate. e g candidate. it's something that all mps have to do . they are all mps have to do. they are selected by local members, whichever party they stand for. why not so stoke on trent central? and i must say i oisoiuisiy— central? and i must say i absolutely love- (li 7 and i must say i absolutely love stoke on trent ssnioi. — absolutely love stoke on trent ssnioi. i— absolutely love stoke on trent central. i love— absolutely love stoke on trent central. i love being a constituency- central. i love being a constituency mp. the boundary snongss— constituency mp. the boundary snongss nnso— constituency mp. the boundary

changes mean that it will look iiiissni— changes mean that it will look different after— changes mean that it will look different after the next general sissiion— different after the next general sissiion .— different after the next general sissiion . in— different after the next general election . in an— different after the next general election . in an extra 19,000 election. in an extra 19,000 osi— election. in an extra 19,000 oi wno— election. in an extra 19,000 osis wno ,— election. in an extra 19,000 voters who , you _ election. in an extra 19,000 voters who , you know, didn't voters who, you know, didn't know— voters who, you know, didn't know ns— voters who, you know, didn't know in— voters who, you know, didn't know me. i'm not- voters who, you know, didn't know me. i'm not their their mp. ani— know me. i'm not their their mp. no so— know me. i'm not their their mp. no so insis— know me. i'm not their their mp. and so there are— know me. i'm not their their mp. and so there are a— know me. i'm not their their mp. and so there are a number of snongss.— and so there are a number of snongss. sui— and so there are a number of changes. but anybody that suggssis— changes. but anybody that suggests that— changes. but anybody that suggests that the decision was iossi— suggests that the decision was iossi on— suggests that the decision was based on being— suggests that the decision was based on being offered a safe ssoi— based on being offered a safe ssoi in— based on being offered a safe ssoi in ins— based on being offered a safe seat in the south— based on being offered a safe seat in the south or something. i seat in the south or something. i nnso— seat in the south or something. i inoi-s— seat in the south or something. i mean that's just— seat in the south or something. i mean that's just ridiculous . i mean that's just ridiculous. i-ws— i mean that's just ridiculous. i've seen that— i mean that's just ridiculous. i've seen that written - i mean that's just ridiculous. i've seen that written about you people saying actually she just wants scarper off a wants to scarper off to a safe seat. well, it's a nonsense. and i seat. well, it's a nonsense. and i nows— seat. well, it's a nonsense. and i nows io— seat. well, it's a nonsense. and i nows io soy.— well, it's a nonsense. and i have to say, anybody who's s-ssnsio- i have to say, anybody who's seen-media in- i have to say, anybody who's seen media in the i have to say, anybody who's- seen-media in the last seen my social media in the last iniss— seen my social media in the last inss-ynow— seen my social media in the last three-know that- three years will know that i spsni— three years will know that i spent-weekend - three years will know that i spent weekend and every spent every weekend and every noiiioy— spent every weekend and every noiiioy oni— spent every weekend and every holiday and at— spent every weekend and every holiday and at every recess in ins— holiday and at every recess in the constituency— holiday and at every recess in the constituency ._ holiday and at every recess in the constituency . it's my home, the constituency. it's my home, you— the constituency. it's my home, you know,— the constituency. it's my home, you know. so— the constituency. it's my home, you know. so ,— the constituency. it's my home, you know, so , you— the constituency. it's my home, you know, so , you know, that's you know, so, you know, that's iusi— you know, so, you know, that's iusi o— you know, so, you know, that's just a nonsense— you know, so, you know, that's just a nonsense . _ you know, so, you know, that's just a nonsense . i igx igx just a nonsense. the highlight for you , you might have only for you, you might have only been an mp for four years by the time of the next election. the highlight. so the highlight is nosing— highlight. so the highlight is nosing o— highlight. so the highlight is nosing o soi— i gx gx so the highlight is making a real difference to psopis-s— making a real difference to people's lives.— making a real difference to people's lives. and my campaign on iuiion— people's lives. and my campaign on button battery— people's lives. and my campaign on button battery safety with a iss-s— on button battery safety with a iss-s iss-s— on button battery safety with a lee's lee's tell— on button battery safety with a lee's lee's tell us— on button battery safety with a lee's lee's tell us about the iuiion— lee's lee's tell us about the button battery— lee's lee's tell us about the button battery campaign. e button battery campaign. it's a it's button battery campaign. it's a is o— button battery campaign. it's a is o psoiiy— button battery campaign. it's a it's a really noble— button battery campaign. it's a it's a really noble campaign. it is a really important campaign.

in fact, i stood down from a gowspnnsni— in fact, i stood down from a government role _ in fact, i stood down from a government role in order to ioiiy— government role in order to lobby government on this. and we've made great— lobby government on this. and we've made great progress. so uoppsp— we've made great progress. so uoppsp isoi— we've made great progress. so harper leaf and— we've made great progress. so harper leaf and thorpe, in my sonsiiiusnsy— harper leaf and thorpe, in my sonsiiiusnsy ,— harper leaf and thorpe, in my constituency , a— harper leaf and thorpe, in my constituency , a little toddler constituency, a little toddler iisi— constituency, a little toddler iisi oiisp— constituency, a little toddler died after swallowing a button ioiispy— died after swallowing a button ioiispy oni— died after swallowing a button ioiispy oni i— died after swallowing a button battery and i promised her noiisp— battery and i promised her mother, stacy— battery and i promised her mother, stacy and it's a sonpoign— mother, stacy and it's a campaign with the local nswspopsp— campaign with the local newspaper as- campaign with the local newspaper as well that we would nois— newspaper as well that we would make sure that— newspaper as well that we would make sure that that button ioiispiss— make sure that that button batteries there's more safety ooui— batteries there's more safety around button— batteries there's more safety around button and these are iouni— around button and these are iouni in— around button and these are found in children toys tv snossi— found in children toys tv remotes they're in all of our nos — remotes they're in all of our homes. exactly. _ remotes they're in all of our homes. iiii�*ifxeg iiii�*ifxeg remotes they're in all of our homes. iiii�*ifxeg xiiieeyp so homes. exactly. exactly so poising— homes. exactly. exactly so raising awareness- homes. iiii�*ifxeg xiiieeyp so raising awareness and also the soisiy— raising awareness and also the safety standards— raising awareness and also the safety standards for products wiin — safety standards for products wiin iuiion — safety standards for products with button batteries has been the with button batteries has been ins ysy— with button batteries has been the key campaign . 'i: the key campaign. and you have another campaign ongoing as well. banker. dave, tell me about that. yes. so i've always issn— about that. yes. so i've always issn issn— about that. yes. so i've always issn yssn io— about that. yes. so i've always been keen to see— about that. yes. so i've always been keen to see some- yes. so i've always been keen to see some form of sonnuniiy— been keen to see some form of community banking in stoke on isni— community banking in stoke on trent because— community banking in stoke on trent because there are lots of psopis,— trent because there are lots of psopis. soiiy— trent because there are lots of psopis. soiiy ,— trent because there are lots of people, sadly , who in order to people, sadly, who in order to get— people, sadly, who in order to gsi o— people, sadly, who in order to gsi o wspy— people, sadly, who in order to get a very small— people, sadly, who in order to get a very small amount of money as a micro loan, might have to go io— as a micro loan, might have to go is ioon— as a micro loan, might have to go to loan sharks.— as a micro loan, might have to go to loan sharks. there are oiso— go to loan sharks. there are oiso snoii— go to loan sharks. there are also small start— go to loan sharks. there are also small start up businesses

inoi— also small start up businesses inoi son-i— also small start up businesses inoi son-i gsi— also small start up businesses that can't get funding from conventional— that can't get funding from conventional high street banks. ani— conventional high street banks. ani ii— conventional high street banks. ani ii ws— conventional high street banks. ani ii ws noi— conventional high street banks. and if we had a— conventional high street banks. and if we had a loans and sowings— and if we had a loans and savings bank,— and if we had a loans and savings bank, which is what dave spsnsi— savings bank, which is what dave opsnsi in— savings bank, which is what dave opened in burnley_ savings bank, which is what dave opened in burnley to help these psopis.— opened in burnley to help these psopis. insp— opened in burnley to help these people, then that— opened in burnley to help these people, then that would be would nois— people, then that would be would make more difference to kind of iswsi— make more difference to kind of iswsi up— make more difference to kind of iswsi up oup— make more difference to kind of level up our community than any infrastructure— level up our community than any infrastructure project. it's oioui— infrastructure project. it's about helping _ infrastructure project. it's about helping lots and lots of psopis— about helping lots and lots of psopis wiin— about helping lots and lots of psopis wiin o— about helping lots and lots of people with a small amount, but oiso— people with a small amount, but oiso oiiowing— people with a small amount, but also allowing the— people with a small amount, but also allowing the community to nsip— also allowing the community to nsip sosn— also allowing the community to help each other— also allowing the community to help each other ._ also allowing the community to help each other . and that's the help each other. and that's the key help each other. and that's the ysy inni— help each other. and that's the ysy ining. you— help each other. and that's the key thing. you know, community paying— key thing. you know, community poying in— key thing. you know, community paying in community taking out. but paying in community taking out. iui iui— paying in community taking out. iui iui you— paying in community taking out. but but you know,— paying in community taking out. but but you know, it's that sonnssioni— but but you know, it's that connection which which i'm soiiy— connection which which i'm soiiy soiiy— connection which which i'm really, really keen on. joe siison— really, really keen on. joe gideon can't— really, really keen on. joe gideon can't believe you're you're not seeking re adoption at the next election. i also really cannot believe you're 73. i look half as good as, as you at 70. then we'll all be winning. it's really nice to meet you, joe. gideon. thank you . thanks for watching. join me again next sunday at six for gloria meets ella whelan . hello

gloria meets ella whelan. hello there. i'm craig snell. here is youp— there. i'm craig snell. here is youp ioissi— there. i'm craig snell. here is your latest forecast— e"iiil”iiil i'm craig snell. here is your latest forecast from the iisi— your latest forecast from the iisi siiiss. — your latest forecast from the met office. well, as we go inpougn— met office. well, as we go inpougn ins— met office. well, as we go through the week ahead, for most of through the week ahead, for most oi us— through the week ahead, for most oi ii— through the week ahead, for most of us, it should— through the week ahead, for most of us, it should be— through the week ahead, for most of us, it should be largely dry oni— of us, it should be largely dry oni ssiiisi— of us, it should be largely dry and settled. always the best of the and settled. always the best of ins—iowswspl and settled. always the best of the _ however, ini the temperatures. however, in the temperatures. however, in ins-nss-s- the temperatures. however, in the - here's the - the west. so here's the siiuoiion— the west. so here's the situation lthe - the west. so here's the situation lthe we've situation at the moment. we've got situation at the moment. we've goi-psssus— situation at the moment. we've got pressure beginning to got high pressure beginning to iuiii— got high pressure beginning to build _country.. build in across the country. insss— build in across the country. these -weather- build in across the country. these weather fronts, these two weather fronts, however, - still - these two weather fronts, however, - still i a l these two weather fronts,- however, - still i a focus however, will still be a focus of however, will still be a focus oi sons— however, will still be a focus of some cloud— however, will still be a focus of some cloud some outbreaks of some cloud and some outbreaks of some cloud and some outbreaks oi-ws— of some cloud and some outbreaks oi-wslinio— of some cloud and some outbreaks of-we.into monday- of some cloud and some outbreaks of-we.into monday .- of rain as we go into monday. sui— of rain as we go into monday. iui-iosk— of rain as we go into monday. iui-iosk io- of rain as we go into monday. but-back to the- of rain as we go into monday. but back to the rest of but looking back to the rest of sunioy.— but looking back to the rest of sunioy, you— but looking back to the rest of sunioy, you so— but looking back to the rest of sunday, you can see actually siiii— sunday, you can see actually siiii o— sunday, you can see actually siiii o ioi— sunday, you can see actually still a lot of— sunday, you can see actually still a lot of cloud around. issi— still a lot of cloud around. issi oi— still a lot of cloud around. issi oi ony— still a lot of cloud around. best of any late- still a lot of cloud around. best of any late brightness down iowopis— best of any late brightness down iowopis ins— best of any late brightness down towards the southeast and east angiio— towards the southeast and east angus-ioi— towards the southeast and east anglia,-far north- towards the southeast and east anglia, far north for anglia, the far north for ssoiioni— anglia, the far north for scotland. also seeing clear scotland. also seeing some clear siiss—nss- scotland. also seeing some clear siiss—nss ii- skies overnight. so here it signi— skies overnight. so here it might-locally- skies overnight. so here it might locally chilly, but might turn locally chilly, but sisswisps— might turn locally chilly, but elsewhere, temperatures not ioiiing— elsewhere, temperatures not falling _lower- elsewhere, temperatures not falling lower than 7 or 8 falling much lower than 7 or 8 isgsss— falling much lower than 7 or 8 isgpsss iui— falling much lower than 7 or 8 degrees, but it— falling much lower than 7 or 8 degrees, but it will be quite grey— degrees, but it will be quite gpsy oni— degrees, but it will be quite gpsy oni nupky— degrees, but it will be quite grey and murky in places, sspssioiiy— grey and murky in places, especially across any high gpouni— especially across any high gpouni .— especially across any high gpouni . so— especially across any high ground . so just be a bit wary of ground. so just be a bit wary of ii— ground. so just be a bit wary of ii ii— ground. so just be a bit wary of ii ii you— ground. so just be a bit wary of ii ii you ops— ground. so just be a bit wary of that if you are travelling owspnigni. — that if you are travelling overnight. so— that if you are travelling overnight. so a grey start for a lot overnight. so a grey start for a ioi oi— overnight. so a grey start for a ioi oi ins— overnight. so a grey start for a lot of the country— overnight. so a grey start for a lot of the country as we start ins— lot of the country as we start is nsw— lot of the country as we start the new working— lot of the country as we start the new working week. still the piss— the new working week. still the piss-sons— the new working week. still the risk some outbreaks of risk of some light outbreaks of poin— risk of some light outbreaks of oni— risk of some light outbreaks of rain and drizzle— risk of some light outbreaks of rain and drizzle too. but there

wiii— rain and drizzle too. but there wiii is— rain and drizzle too. but there wiii is sons— rain and drizzle too. but there will be some brighter skies iswsioping— will be some brighter skies developing places. northern developing in places. northern isioni— developing in places. northern ireland,-north- developing in places. northern ireland,-north of- ireland, the far north of ssoiioni— ireland, the far north of scotland eventually into scotland and eventually into iosi— scotland and eventually into iosi-oni— scotland and eventually into east-and the- scotland and eventually into east and the south—east. east anglia and the south—east. as—iunsniins- east anglia and the south—east. as_lunchtime .- east anglia and the south—east. as_lunchtime . sol east anglia and the south—east. as_lunchtime . so in as we approach lunchtime. so in the as we approach lunchtime. so in is sunsnin— as we approach lunchtime. so in the sunshine, feeling pleasantly wopnlins— the sunshine, feeling pleasantly warm-the time— the sunshine, feeling pleasantly warm.the time of— the sunshine, feeling pleasantly warm the time of year highs warm for the time of year highs sosning— warm for the time of year highs sosninglop— warm for the time of year highs reaching.or19_ warm for the time of year highs reaching or 19 degrees. reaching 18 or 19 degrees. but sisswnss— reaching 18 or 19 degrees. but elsewhere for— reaching 18 or 19 degrees. but elsewhere for-par- reaching 18 or 19 degrees. but elsewhere for par for elsewhere for around par for inis— elsewhere for around par for inis ins— elsewhere for around par for inis iins oi— elsewhere for around par for this time of year— elsewhere for around par for this time of year into the swsning— this time of year into the swsning. ws— this time of year into the evening, we may well see some iois— evening, we may well see some iois sunsnins— evening, we may well see some late sunshine developing across the late sunshine developing across is iiiiionis— late sunshine developing across the midlands central southern ingioni — the midlands central southern ingioni sui— the midlands central southern england. but then that quickly gsis— england. but then that quickly gsis spiossi— england. but then that quickly gsis pspiossi iy— england. but then that quickly gets replaced by further cloud ins — gets replaced by further cloud across the country as we go into the across the country as we go into is snoii— across the country as we go into the small hours— across the country as we go into the small hours of— across the country as we go into the small hours of tuesday. so ogoin— the small hours of tuesday. so ogoin ,— the small hours of tuesday. so ogoin . unisp— the small hours of tuesday. so again , under the— the small hours of tuesday. so again , under the cloud, no real again, under the cloud, no real ppoiisns— again, under the cloud, no real ppoiisns-ins— again, under the cloud, no real problems the temperatures problems with the temperatures not problems with the temperatures noi-susn— problems with the temperatures not-much lower- problems with the temperatures not much lower than not falling much lower than ooui— not falling much lower than ooui 7— not falling much lower than ooui i op— not falling much lower than around 7 or 8— not falling much lower than around 7 or 8 degrees across the sounipy— around 7 or 8 degrees across the sounipy .— around 7 or 8 degrees across the sounipy . so— around 7 or 8 degrees across the sounipy . so on— around 7 or 8 degrees across the country . so on tuesday , we will country. so on tuesday, we will insn— country. so on tuesday, we will insn siopi— country. so on tuesday, we will insn siopi io— country. so on tuesday, we will then start to see— country. so on tuesday, we will then start to see some clearer siiss— then start to see some clearer siiss os— then start to see some clearer skies move right— then start to see some clearer skies move right across the sounipy— skies move right across the sounipy os— skies move right across the sounipy os ws— skies move right across the country as we go through the course of the— country as we go through the course of the day. so it could be course of the day. so it could is o— course of the day. so it could is o iii— course of the day. so it could is o iii oi— course of the day. so it could is o iii oi o— course of the day. so it could be a bit of a grey,— course of the day. so it could be a bit of a grey, slow start in piosss— be a bit of a grey, slow start in places, but— be a bit of a grey, slow start in places, but sunshine will be on ins— in places, but sunshine will be on is woy— in places, but sunshine will be on the way across— in places, but sunshine will be on the way across most of the sounipy. — on the way across most of the sounipy. ws— on the way across most of the sounipy. ws io— on the way across most of the country. we do start to pick up a country. we do start to pick up o iii— country. we do start to pick up o iii oi— country. we do start to pick up o iii oi o— country. we do start to pick up a bit of a easterly— country. we do start to pick up a bit of a easterly breeze, however, so feeling quite chilly oiong—soosi- however, so feeling quite chilly along—coast but. along some eastern coast but iunnsp— along some eastern coast but further-certainly- further inland, certainly issiing— further inland, certainly feeling pleasantly warm in the

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good evening. i'm tatiana sanchez. in the gb newsroom, the health secretary has urged the royal college of nursing to reconsider planned industrial action at the end of the month . action at the end of the month. in a letter to the union's leader this morning, steve barclay said the recent pay offer is fair and reasonable and the decision to stage a 48 hour strike will put patients at risk. the chs general secretary, pat cullen, has criticised the government for refusing to budge on its offer of a 5% pay rise. our members nsiinsp— of a 5% pay rise. our members neither think— of a 5% pay rise. our members neither think it— of a 5% pay rise. our members neither think it is— io�*ii�*lp i our members neither think it is reasonable or neither think it is reasonable op ioip. — neither think it is reasonable op ioip. ii— neither think it is reasonable op ioip. ii is— neither think it is reasonable or fair. it is a— neither think it is reasonable or fair. it is a short term opppoosn— or fair. it is a short term approach that- or fair. it is a short term approach that plugs a gap by giwing— approach that plugs a gap by giwing snsn— approach that plugs a gap by giwing insn o— approach that plugs a gap by giving them a one off. what they nows— giving them a one off. what they have described— giving them a one off. what they have described as— giving them a one off. what they have described as a bonus. inoi-s— have described as a bonus. that's certainly— have described as a bonus. that's certainly not going to oiisss— that's certainly not going to address the— that's certainly not going to address the fundamental crisis inoi— address the fundamental crisis inoi ws— address the fundamental crisis inoi ws nows— address the fundamental crisis that we have got— address the fundamental crisis that we have got within our nupsing— that we have got within our nursing profession or within the wus— nursing profession or within the wus .— nursing profession or within the wus . ioioup— nursing profession or within the

nhs . labour has— nursing profession or within the nhs . labour has vowed to end nhs. labour has vowed to end wnoi— nhs. labour has vowed to end wnoi ii— nhs. labour has vowed to end what it describes—