tv Gloria Meets Replay GB News April 17, 2023 2:00am-3:01am BST
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. but basically i graham stuart. but basically i did what i was told to do, which is to say it wasn't a confidence vote after it had been sent out earlier that it was. so it did lead to and contribute to a sense of chaos. coming up, conservative mp joe gideon. the challenge has been that- conservative mp joe gideon. the challenge has been that if- m 37�* c, 3" the challenge has been that if you put people— challenge has been that if you put people into— challenge has been that if you put people into a— challenge has been that if you put people into a hotel without the risk— put people into a hotel without the risk forces— put people into a hotel without the risk forces and in an area where— the risk forces and in an area where we— the risk forces and in an area where we are strapped for risk feces— where we are strapped for risk fees to— where we are strapped for risk forces to help— where we are strapped for risk forces to help the— where we are strapped for risk forces to help the people who are forces to help the people who already— forces to help the people who are already there _ forces to help the people who are already there and struggling ,.he.._ are already there and struggling m you-e— are already there and struggling , then you're going to have a level— , then you're going to have a level of— , then you're going to have a level of discontent. all that after— level of discontent. all that after your— level of discontent. all that after your news— level of discontent. all that after your news .- level of discontent. all that after your news . c: " g after your news. good evening. i'm tatiana sanchez in the gb newsroom. the health secretary has urged the royal college of nursing to reckon sidor planned industrial action at the end of the month. in a letter to the unions leader, this morning,
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steve barclay said the recent pay steve barclay said the recent pay offer is fair and reasonable and the decision to stage a 48 hour strike will put patients at risk. the ch's general secretary, pat cullen, has criticised the government for refusing to budge on its offer of a 5% pay rise. our refusing to budge on its offer of a 5% pay rise . our members of a 5% pay rise. our members neither— of a 5% pay rise. our members neither think— of a 5% pay rise. our members neither think it— of a 5% pay rise. our members neither think it is— sift? ” our members neither think it is reasonable or neither think it is reasonable er tetr— neither think it is reasonable or fat .— neither think it is reasonable or fat. t— neither think it is reasonable erfetr. t te— neither think it is reasonable or fair. it is a— neither think it is reasonable or fair. it is a short term approach— or fair. it is a short term approach that- or fair. it is a short term approach that plugs a gap by giving— approach that plugs a gap by giving them— approach that plugs a gap by giving them a— approach that plugs a gap by giving them a one off what they-ve— giving them a one off what they've described as a bonus. iiiei-e— they've described as a bonus. that's certainly— they've described as a bonus. that's certainly not going to address— that's certainly not going to address the— that's certainly not going to address the fundamental crisis thei— address the fundamental crisis the wee— address the fundamental crisis that gei— address the fundamental crisis that we've got within our nursing— that we've got within our nursing profession or within the nis— nursing profession or within the was .— nursing profession or within the was . ieieui— nursing profession or within the nhs . labour has— nursing profession or within the nhs . labour has vowed to end nhs. labour has vowed to end what— nhs. labour has vowed to end what i— nhs. labour has vowed to end what it describes— nhs. labour has vowed to end what it describes as a postcode ieiieiy— what it describes as a postcode ieiieit fei— what it describes as a postcode ieiteiy iei ei— what it describes as a postcode lottery for gp appointments if it lottery for gp appointments if i win— lottery for gp appointments if it ine— lottery for gp appointments if it wins the next— lottery for gp appointments if it wins the next election. the party— it wins the next election. the party says— it wins the next election. the party says up— it wins the next election. the party says up to_ it wins the next election. the party says up to three quarters of patients in some parts of england aren't able to see their doctor of choice and only half the number of appointments are held face to face. labour's promising to double the number
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of doctors trained every year to 15,000, and shadow health secretary wes streeting says young people need more opportunities to enter the profession. unless opportunities to enter the profession . unless the nhs has profession. unless the nhs has the profession. unless the nhs has ine sien— profession. unless the nhs has ine eieii ii— profession. unless the nhs has the staff it needs,— profession. unless the nhs has the staff it needs, it's- unless the nhs has the staff it needs, it's going to eiiwggie— the staff it needs, it's going to enwggie io— the staff it needs, it's going to struggle to treat patients on time— to struggle to treat patients on time eni— to struggle to treat patients on time and we're— to struggle to treat patients on time and we're going to end up in inie— time and we're going to end up in this bizarre— time and we're going to end up in this bizarre situation where on neni— in this bizarre situation where on one hand we're turning away eweigni— on one hand we're turning away eiieigni e— on one hand we're turning away eweignt a grade— on one hand we're turning away straight a grade students from studying— straight a grade students from studying medicine at university wniiei— studying medicine at university whilst recruiting _ studying medicine at university whilst recruiting people from overseas-greater- whilst recruiting people from overseas greater numbers than overseas in greater numbers than weining— overseas in greater numbers than we're training our— overseas in greater numbers than we're training our own home grown—is- we're training our own home grown—is nei- we're training our own home| grown—is not fair grown staff, which is not fair to einei— grown staff, which is not fair to other countries around the went.— to other countries around the went-even— to other countries around the world.-even more- world. but even more importantly,- world. but even more importantly, it's not fair to iwigni— importantly, it's not fair to bright teenagers in britain who eewii— bright teenagers in britain who could—doctors- bright teenagers in britain whoi could—doctors and could be promising doctors and neiiee— could be promising doctors and medics-future- could be promising doctors and medics future who are medics of the future who are being— medics of the future who are being denied— medics of the future who are being denied the opportunity niene— being denied the opportunity pins to— being denied the opportunity plans to build— being denied the opportunity plans to build new smart neieiwewe— plans to build new smart motorways are- plans to build new smart motorways are being cancelled eeiew— motorways are being cancelled over safety concerns , cost and over safety concerns, cost and iew— over safety concerns, cost and iew nwiiie— over safety concerns, cost and low public confidence . low public confidence. us. the government— low public confidence. us. the government has confirmed 14 planned projects have been scrapped. an existing stretches will be made safer. campaigners are demanding the return of hard shoulders to existing smart
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motorways. conservative party chairman greg hands told camilla tominey the government's putting pubuc tominey the government's putting public safety first. it's be right for us to, as i say, look at the evidence to come about it with bearing in mind all the factors that are involved. and that's why we've taken- f : and that's why we've taken the decision — that's why we've taken the decision as— that's why we've taken the decision as a— that's why we've taken the decision as a result of the nwiiie— decision as a result of the public concern— decision as a result of the public concern to cease new eman— public concern to cease new smart motorways— public concern to cease new smart motorways . that's what i smart motorways. that's what i ininw— smart motorways. that's what i ininw is— smart motorways. that's what i ininw ie ine— smart motorways. that's what i think is the right— smart motorways. that's what i think is the right decision. the inten— think is the right decision. the british horse— think is the right decision. the british horse racing authority has condemned— british horse racing authority has condemned protesters who ieiewei— has condemned protesters who ieiewei ine— has condemned protesters who delayed the grand national. “8 delayed the grand national. 118 people— delayed the grand national. 118 peepie wee— delayed the grand national. 118 people were arrested _ delayed the grand national. 118 people were arrested for- people were arrested for disrupting the event yesterday , disrupting the event yesterday, slightly delaying the start of the race. activists from animal rising are calling forjump racing to be banned after three horses died at aintree . and horses died at aintree. and they've warned further protests will take place this summer. the bucha says it will be a painstaking analysis to determine min what caused the deaths . the head of determine min what caused the deaths. the head of sudan's army and paramilitary have agreed to and paramilitary have agreed to
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a three hour humanitarian pause in fighting. at least 56 civilians have been killed and almost 600 injured, as both forces battle for control across the capital, khartoum. global leaders have been holding crisis talks to try to bring an end to the conflict, but both sides claim to have taken the airport presidential palace and state tv , which has since had its transmission cut. tensions have escalated as political factions negotiate over a proposed transition to civilian rule following a military coup in 2021 and more than 6000 members of the armed forces will be taking part in the king's coronation next month. thousands of veterans and nhs workers have also been invited to watch the historic event from a special grandstand in front of buckingham palace . the culture buckingham palace. the culture secretary says it's the mark of the nation's profound gratitude . tv online dab+ radio and on
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tune in. this is gb news. now it's tune in. this is gb news. now wsfime tune in. this is gb news. now it's time for gloria meets . it's time for gloria meets. luke pollard , labour mp shadow armed pollard, labour mp shadow armed forces minister elected . in 2017 forces minister elected. in 2017 to parliament. we recorded the interview— to parliament. we recorded the interview before _ to parliament. we recorded the interview before luke- 3151 we recorded the interview before luke revealed his interview before luke revealed nie receiving— interview before luke revealed his receiving treatment for skin cancer. we wish— his receiving treatment for skin cancer. we wish him well. we're going— cancer. we wish him well. we're going io— cancer. we wish him well. we're going to sien— cancer. we wish him well. we're going to sign by— cancer. we wish him well. we're going to start by talking about eeneining— going to start by talking about eeneining we— going to start by talking about something we don't normally talk to iii-e— something we don't normally talk ie we anew,— something we don't normally talk to mp's about, which is eeneining— to mp's about, which is something that happened in your eeneiiiwenew— something that happened in your constituency in— something that happened in your constituency in august 2021. one of ne— constituency in august 2021. one of we une— constituency in august 2021. one of the uk's worst— constituency in august 2021. one of the uk's worst mass shootings . ieii— of the uk's worst mass shootings . ieii ne— of the uk's worst mass shootings . tell me about— of the uk's worst mass shootings . tell me about jake davison. wnei— . tell me about jake davison. wnei ne— . tell me about jake davison. what he did. _ . tell me about jake davison. what he did. he— . tell me about jake davison. what he did. it; " what he did. he shot seven people, five of them were killed
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, two survived. but with quite serious injuries. hundreds of people saw the shooting took place, taking place, including many children, about a third of the eyewitnesses are children . the eyewitnesses are children. and it has just torn our community apart. there's now huge amounts of grief for the people we lost. there's a collective trauma for the experiences that people went through, and there's a real variety of ways people are deaung variety of ways people are dealing with it. we know that communities that have suffered a major trauma like this have a consequences, not just for weeks and months afterwards, but for years and decades. and it's still very much a very much raw in my community. i only live half a mile from where it took place. and it really it hurts still. it hurts the community and there's a real sense that after all this evil that was done to our community, all this pain , all the loss, that pain, all the loss, that something good's got to come from it. and that has to be about changing gun laws for the better because don't want any
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better because i don't want any other going other community going through what plymouth. it what we did in plymouth. it really was terrible. but that pain to be used for some pain has to be used for some good at the end of it. so you mentioned gun— good at the end of it. so you mentioned gun laws.- d e so you mentioned gun laws. tell me what you mentioned gun laws. tell me what we newe— mentioned gun laws. tell me what we newe in— mentioned gun laws. tell me what you have in mind— mentioned gun laws. tell me what you have in mind in— mentioned gun laws. tell me what you have in mind in terms of inat— you have in mind in terms of net eni— you have in mind in terms of inn and any— you have in mind in terms of that and any other lessons that ie— that and any other lessons that can be learned.— that and any other lessons that can be learned. so— that and any other lessons that can be learned. so no other community— can be learned. so no other community does— can be learned. so no other community does suffer what your community— community does suffer what your community has.7 _ community does suffer what your community has.7 �*fii�*izge community does suffer what your community has.7 viii“ wiziz; community does suffer what your community has.7 �*vw�*iiee wiiti community has.7 well, we were let down by our local police force. they gave a gun to someone who should not have been eligible for a gun. wasn't suitable . they for a gun. wasn't suitable. they tookit for a gun. wasn't suitable. they took it off him after he assaulted someone and then they gave it back. and so it's a catalogue of failures locally . catalogue of failures locally. but it's not just about what devon and cornwall police did . devon and cornwall police did. it needs to be about a bigger picture because our gun laws are outdated . the 1968 act that most outdated. the 1968 act that most of our legislation comes from is from an era of very long time ago . it costs £79 to apply for ago. it costs £79 to apply for a gun certificate , £49 for gun certificate, £49 for a renewal. it costs police forces hundreds and hundreds of pounds to process that application , to process that application, which means all of us taxpayers
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are paying for the right of a very small number of people to have weapons. i don't think people should be able to keep pump—action weapons in their homes, which was the weapon used in plymouth . but i also think we in plymouth. but i also think we need to revisit the whole system. each police force does gun licencing slightly differently. police force differently. each police force process it differently . and we process it differently. and we know that gun crime is on the rise. we know it's a persistent problem in our communities. rise. we know it's a persistent problem in our communities . and problem in our communities. and i think the way that we are going a safer a safer going to get a safer a safer environment for people and a clearer sense of direction for those people who are responsible gun users is to have a proper review of gun laws to look at what has gone wrong, not just in plymouth, but in the shootings since. and there has sadly been many shootings the many shootings since the incident had in incident that we've had in plymouth learn those lessons plymouth to learn those lessons and that has to be about including the communities that have affected this, have been affected by this, because that that focus because that pain, that focus that comes from that grief and that comes from that grief and that loss needs to be directed into a way of making our communities safer. think
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communities safer. and i think a review of gun laws is one way of doing that. okay. following the eneeiinge— doing that. okay. following the eneeiinge yew— doing that. okay. following the shootings, you said— i:i:::i g okay. following the shootings, you said this to the ieiew— shootings, you said this to the labour leader— shootings, you said this to the labour leader ,_ shootings, you said this to the labour leader , keir starmer. labour leader, keir starmer. i gnieiwi— labour leader, keir starmer. i was grateful you— labour leader, keir starmer. i was grateful you allowed me to sien— was grateful you allowed me to step back— was grateful you allowed me to eien neck iei— was grateful you allowed me to step back for a— was grateful you allowed me to step back for a month in the summer to not— step back for a month in the summer to not only focus on the community— summer to not only focus on the community i— summer to not only focus on the community i represent ant, but to week— community i represent ant, but to ieek ener— community i represent ant, but to look after my— community i represent ant, but to look after my own mental newn— to look after my own mental neeiin. ieii— to look after my own mental health. tell me— to look after my own mental health. tell me about the impact it nei— health. tell me about the impact it new on— health. tell me about the impact it new on wow— health. tell me about the impact it had on your mental health as an iii. — it had on your mental health as an iii. i— it had on your mental health as an mp. i wasn't— it had on your mental health as an mp. i wasn't for— it had on your mental health as an mp. e : an mp. i wasn't for prepared a mass shooting like this. i don't think anyone is. the day after we set up the shooting took place , we set up an emergency place, we set up an emergency response centre in the community and the first people that came through parents their through were parents with their young kids and speaking to tiny children and their parents about how their child had seen someone shot with a pump action rifle. what it meant for them, and repeating that conversation dozens dozens of times as i dozens and dozens of times as i mean, that has an effect on you. and i'd like to think i was quite a resilient character. i'm always kind of duracell bunny, bouncy , when have those bouncy, but when you have those type of experiences shared time
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and time again, that does take its toll . was in the its toll. and i was in the shadow cabinet at the time when the shooting took place our the shooting took place and our member sitting in kyiv with families just thinking , i can families just thinking, i can either do my shadow cabinet role properly for this period or i can look after my community and there's one me for this there's only one of me for this community. so i ask him if i could step back for a month and that time was really important not to only look after myself, to sure that i could still to make sure that i could still get out of bed every day and to experience yet again a, you know, the same conversation as, you know, looking after people, feeling they feel , feeling seeing how they feel, but also make sure that i can still be useful as a member of parliament. so. right, we're taking this pain and we're going to do something positive with it. and that's really, i think, the job of an mp to represent their community. and for me that's what representing a community . so six years community means. so six years you've community means. so six years wow-we teen— community means. so six years yew-we been an— community means. so six years you've been an mp— community means. so six years you've been an mp the- i can so six years you've been an mp the year after you've been an mp the year after we wee— you've been an mp the year after you were elected,— you've been an mp the year after you were elected, you wrote an enieie— you were elected, you wrote an enieie .— you were elected, you wrote an enieie . inie— you were elected, you wrote an article . this was— you were elected, you wrote an article . this was in— you were elected, you wrote an article . this was in 2018 saying article. this was in 2018 saying the
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article. this was in 2018 saying tne neieenewe— article. this was in 2018 saying the poisonous environment in ieiiieneni— the poisonous environment in parliament needs to be over eeiiei— parliament needs to be over called what's— parliament needs to be over called what's poisonous about the atmosphere— called what's poisonous about the atmosphere in parliament? oh, the atmosphere in parliament? on, ie— the atmosphere in parliament? on, in ne— the atmosphere in parliament? oh, it's the most— the atmosphere in parliament? oh, it's the most unprofessional workpiece— oh, it's the most unprofessional wewpieee i-we— oh, it's the most unprofessional workplace i've ever— oh, it's the most unprofessional workplace i've ever worked in. i workplace i've ever worked in. unint— workplace i've ever worked in. itnink tie— workplace i've ever worked in. i think the chamber— workplace i've ever worked in. i think the chamber of- workplace i've ever worked in. i think the chamber of the- workplace i've ever worked in. i think the chamber of the house of commons has has over many, many decades , many years been many decades, many years been allowed to be a bear pit where people are deliberately shouted down, where insults are thrown at people, and that is what passes for mature political debates . i think our politics debates. i think our politics broadly is broken and i think you need to fix it. doing a lots of different things. but for those people at the very top of our politics, we've got to lead by example. and i think that means taking toxic means taking on the toxic atmosphere that is our politics, not just in the way that our debates are conducted, the insults that are thrown at each other, the morality and the motivations being doubted. but also about how it's conducted . i also about how it's conducted. i still don't think westminster is a safe place to work, especially for many of the young members of staff that mps employ . and we staff that mps employ. and we know that there are predators
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around westminster that are sometimes is allowed to continue to or a blind eye turned . and i to or a blind eye turned. and i want to see that changed because i think westminster should embody the very best of our country . it should be a place country. it should be a place that people aspire for to get elected to, and then want to change the world from a position of strength. and i'm afraid at the i sometimes feel the moment i sometimes feel westminster lets rest of the westminster lets the rest of the country you something country down. you said something quite there. you said quite important there. you said you—westminster. quite important there. you said| you _westminster is you do not think westminster is a you do not think westminster is e eate— you do not think westminster is e ewe-iei— you do not think westminster is e eeie-iei wewng- you do not think westminster is a safe for young members a safe space for young members of stein— a safe space for young members of sign. cen— a safe space for young members of staff. can you— a safe space for young members of staff. can you elaborate on new— of staff. can you elaborate on new i— of staff. can you elaborate on new i newn— of staff. can you elaborate on that? i mean, there are hundreds of young— that? i mean, there are hundreds of young men— that? i mean, there are hundreds of young eni— that? i mean, there are hundreds of young men and women who go to wow— of young men and women who go to wow iei— of young men and women who go to week for iii. — of young men and women who go to week for iii. ite— of young men and women who go to work for mp. it's their— of young men and women who go to work for mp. it's their dream to weik— work for mp. it's their dream to weik inte— work for mp. it's their dream to walk into parliament for the ini— walk into parliament for the first time— walk into parliament for the first time in.— walk into parliament for the first time in. it's— walk into parliament for the first time in. it's not safe for inen. — first time in. it's not safe for inen. i— first time in. it's not safe for them. i think— first time in. it's not safe for them. i think we- first time in. it's not safe for them. i think we let- first time in. it's not safe for them. "
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behaviours that i saw and that i was asked to follow in each of those jobs into this job. i wouldn't shout someone down in a meeting nor would i accept there to be predatory behaviour in any workplace that i've worked in. but in westminster it is kind of accepted by people and that's why we need good people not to be by this. we need more be put off by this. we need more good people westminster of good people in westminster of every frankly, to make every party, frankly, to make that that we to that change that we need to achieve, because westminster should best of should be the very best of britain. we've seen from not only the sexual abuse scandals that have been in the news , but that have been in the news, but also scandals , the also the lobbying scandals, the culture of bullying. that's far too present, that got too present, that we've got a long go now to get it to long way to go now to get it to be place where it should be. be the place where it should be. that promise, that it should be a place where you can debate and challenge, with campaigns challenge, come with campaigns and hope and i think we've got some work to do to get there. okay, let's talk about your own epeiene — okay, let's talk about your own epeience ci— okay, let's talk about your own experience of being an mp . not a experience of being an mp. not a good— experience of being an mp. not a good one— experience of being an mp. not a good owing— experience of being an mp. not a good one. during the general eiecricn— good one. during the general election, your— good one. during the general election, your constituency ciiice— election, your constituency ciiice wee— election, your constituency office was vandalised on two
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occasions, one— office was vandalised on two occasions, one week apart. it . occasions, one week apart. it. on— occasions, one week apart. it. on ne— occasions, one week apart. it. on one occasion— occasions, one week apart. it. on one occasion graffiti was cprewei— on one occasion graffiti was cprewei in— on one occasion graffiti was cprewei in reci— on one occasion graffiti was sprayed in red paint on the window— sprayed in red paint on the window and— sprayed in red paint on the window and walls of your office , eccwcing— window and walls of your office , eccwcing wer— window and walls of your office , accusing you of— window and walls of your office , accusing you of being a. what wow— , accusing you of being a. what was your reaction _ , accusing you of being a. what was your reaction to that when you— was your reaction to that when we sew— was your reaction to that when wcw iner— was your reaction to that when wcw inn 7 — was your reaction to that when you saw that ? oh,- was your reaction to that when you saw that ? o" was your reaction to that when you saw that ? 0" ”rice you saw that? oh, i felt for my staff , first of all, who have to staff, first of all, who have to work in that office every single day. but those type of slurs towards openly gay people like myself is sadly something that you live with when you're out . you live with when you're out. there's far too much hate in our community. and when you see that , i think i had a choice straight away when i saw that paint daubed on the office. it's like, right, are they going to make me a victim? am i going to be the person who to explain be the person who has to explain what's on? i said, no , what's going on? i said, no, they're not making me a victim of when you're of this. and i think when you're confronted with hate and there's a of hate around in politics a lot of hate around in politics at and society at the moment and in our society as whole, i think you've got a as a whole, i think you've got a choice about whether you confront it with more hate, more angen confront it with more hate, more anger, more division, more
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energy. more energy. that just creates more heat, more light. heat, doesn't create more light. that's the reason why we're the person did that. i offered person who did that. i offered to have cup of tea with them. to have a cup of tea with them. let's let's talk about let's sit down. let's talk about why think that is why they think that is appropriate, why they think that because calling gay people has been a you know , it's a trope been a you know, it's a trope that has gone back generations and generations. and it's just hate. it's untruthful hate. and that's why we need to challenge and call it out. but the most effective way of calling out, i think, is not to load more hate onto it is to try and create some clarity and some positivity out of it . say, okay, this out of it. say, okay, this doesn't have to be the way i'm in the public eye, which means my experience is when that happens, became a story. happens, became a news story. there's people every single day facing that type of hate and abuse in the communities who don't have the same platform as i do, don't have the same protections that a member of parliament that's why parliament does. and that's why how respond it is so how we respond to it is so important because should lead important because we should lead by , and that's leading by example, and that's leading by example, and that's leading by example, and that's leading by example terms of how by example in terms of how we deal with problems. but
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deal with these problems. but i don't want to see any lgbt person in our country have to suffer that hate, but there's more around. so we've got more of it around. so we've got to determined in to be more determined in challenging and doing to challenging it and doing so to create country at the create a better country at the end it. and valentine's end of it. and on valentine's day in 2021, you posted a picture of yourself and your boyfriend you received online homophobic abuse. when you did so. is homophobic abuse. when you did ic iner— homophobic abuse. when you did is net ine— homophobic abuse. when you did so. is that the last— it when you did so. is that the last horrible exenpie— so. is that the last horrible exenpie ci— so. is that the last horrible example of abuse that you've been— example of abuse that you've been swig-ecr— example of abuse that you've been subject to? _ example of abuse that you've been subject to? “iiti i: been subject to? there's quite a lot of abuse online and people sitting in their pants at home just being able to tweet whatever they like or post anonymous comments. that's pretty nasty. but we're in a culture where that is being increasingly normalised and i'm plymouth's first ever out member of parliament. i think that is a special responsibility. i have to be authentically me and i've got a wonderful fiance now and i'm really happy with him. he's he's everything i could ever dream of. and because of that , i dream of. and because of that, i don't want to let online trolls have a go at me to take away
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some of that that love that i have for him. and i know that when i stand up to anti—lgbt hate in that way, you're giving hope for people who are facing it every day. people who are suffering and struggling because of hate, directed at them simply because who they are and who they fall in love with. and that's why i think the visibility matters. visibility that's why i think the visibaboutiatters. visibility that's why i think the visib about being visibility that's why i think the visib about being an sibility that's why i think the visib about being an mpity that's why i think the visib about being an mp visible obe about being an mp visible motty about what you do with being mp. and i think you've being an mp. and i think you've got hate, but got to challenge hate, but you've also to some you've also got to create some hope more hope in our hope and a bit more hope in our politics. i think could go a long way. final question. you're going married? you're going to get married? on.— you're going to get married? on.-we-re— you're going to get married? oh,-we're looking- you're going to get married? oh,-we're looking at- oh, yes. we're looking at venues, setting venues, hopefully setting a date soon. about it. soon. i'm very excited about it. and as the bloodiest man in and then as the bloodiest man in parliament, i think at the moment, i can't wait to start a family with him. oh, that's a lovely wry— family with him. oh, that's a lovely way to — family with him. oh, that's a lovely way to end _ can i oh, that's a lovely way to end because ear i oh, that's a lovely way to end because we scener— lovely way to end because we scarred-e— lovely way to end because we scarred-e very— lovely way to end because we started a very difficult started with a very difficult time— started with a very difficult time enci— started with a very difficult time and all— started with a very difficult time and all of— started with a very difficult time and all of us at gb news cent— time and all of us at gb news sent your— time and all of us at gb news send your community, our very peer— send your community, our very best wicnec— send your community, our very best wishes for— send your community, our very best wishes for the recovery and an best wishes for the recovery and en enci— best wishes for the recovery and an and ne— best wishes for the recovery and an and the grieving that undoubtedly— an and the grieving that undoubtedly will be a feature of
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your— undoubtedly will be a feature of your community— undoubtedly will be a feature of your community for some time to irke— your community for some time to come. luke pollard— your community for some time to come. luke pollard thank you. inenk— come. luke pollard thank you. inenk you— come. luke pollard thank you. inenk wcw very— come. luke pollard thank you. thank you very much . coming up, thank you very much. coming up, inergw— thank you very much. coming up, energy iiinicrer— thank you very much. coming up, energy minister graham stuart. mr. energy minister graham stuart. iir. speaker.— energy minister graham stuart. mr. speaker, what— energy minister graham stuart. mr. speaker, what a— energy minister graham stuart. mr. speaker, what a great- energy minister graham stuart. mr. speaker, what a great debate . technically, it's probably not a confidence vote, but blah blah blah to be fair to ed miliband, he was hot to trot on it. he's been around and he was bouncing up and down relentlessly . so up and down relentlessly. so coming up, conservative mp jo gideon, do you think there's any ageism in parliament? well, i just don't accept any- g i , well,i just don't accept any sort of giecc— just don't accept any sort of glass ceilings— just don't accept any sort of glass ceilings and barriers. but yes ,— glass ceilings and barriers. but wee , ceneiniw— glass ceilings and barriers. but yes , certainly there is . i think yes, certainly there is. i think you— yes, certainly there is. i think we newe— yes, certainly there is. i think wcw newe rc— yes, certainly there is. i think you have to have— yes, certainly there is. i think you have to have a huge level of reeiiience— you have to have a huge level of reeiiience rc— you have to have a huge level of resilience to become an mp
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state for energy security and net zero. we'll talk a little bit about your policy area towards the end of this interview. but this is primarily about you and who you are so you went to private school, you go to cambridge university, but you fail degree . what happened? fail your degree. what happened? you can imagine upset my dad you can imagine how upset my dad was you can imagine how upset my dad enci— you can imagine how upset my dad and earn,— you can imagine how upset my dad was and sadly, when— you can imagine how upset my dad was and sadly, when i was eiecrei— was and sadly, when i was eiecreci rc— was and sadly, when i was elected to parliament, which i felt elected to parliament, which i ieir wee— elected to parliament, which i felt was like _ elected to parliament, which i felt was like giving him ecnerning— felt was like giving him something back, but he died of cancer in january— something back, but he died of cancer in january 2005, and i weer— cancer in january 2005, and i wasn't elected— cancer in january 2005, and i wasn't elected till— cancer in january 2005, and i wasn't elected till later that weer. — wasn't elected till later that weer. eer— wasn't elected till later that weer. per i— wasn't elected till later that year. but i felt,— wasn't elected till later that year. but i felt, yeah, he had to igni— year. but i felt, yeah, he had to rignr very— year. but i felt, yeah, he had to fight very hard. he's from a cieegcw— to fight very hard. he's from a glasgow council— to fight very hard. he's from a glasgow council house. i don't win— glasgow council house. i don't rnink nei— glasgow council house. i don't think he'd even— glasgow council house. i don't think he'd even had all the reecnere— think he'd even had all the teachers he— think he'd even had all the teachers he needed to become a doctor. — teachers he needed to become a doctor. wei— teachers he needed to become a doctor. he'd had— teachers he needed to become a doctor. he'd had to— teachers he needed to become a doctor. he'd had to win a scholarship— doctor. he'd had to win a scholarship by- doctor. he'd had to win a scholarship by staying an extra weer— scholarship by staying an extra weer er— scholarship by staying an extra year at school.— scholarship by staying an extra year at school. so— scholarship by staying an extra year at school. so you can inegine— year at school. so you can inegine ne— year at school. so you can imagine he struggled. but as i eeii— imagine he struggled. but as i eeici rc— imagine he struggled. but as i eeici re nin— imagine he struggled. but as i said to him, i— imagine he struggled. but as i said to him, i said, you have weer— said to him, i said, you have your upbringing,— said to him, i said, you have your upbringing, i have mine, enci— your upbringing, i have mine, end we— your upbringing, i have mine, end we pern— your upbringing, i have mine, and we both got— your upbringing, i have mine, and we both got to find our own wew— and we both got to find our own wew. — and we both got to find our own we. were— and we both got to find our own way- were we — and we both got to find our own way. were you gutted - and we both got to find our own way. �*ft�*riti riding: " way. were you gutted when you failed? no i was busy. i, i had after school after— failed? no i was busy. i, i had after school after ten- air:7 \rir i, i had after school after ten years of all after school after ten years of eii neie— after school after ten years of all male scottish— after school after ten years of all male scottish boarding encep— all male scottish boarding ecncci, i— all male scottish boarding school, i went— all male scottish boarding
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school, i went to california . school, i went to california. oh,— school, i went to california. on, wet— school, i went to california. on, we e— school, i went to california. oh, what a joyous release that anci— oh, what a joyous release that was. and eventually my parents ereggei— was. and eventually my parents ereggee ne— was. and eventually my parents dragged me back— was. and eventually my parents dragged me back to go to wniwereiiw— dragged me back to go to university. arnie i rowed. i was inwcwei— university. arnie i rowed. i was inwciweci in— university. arnie i rowed. i was involved in politics. i was cneirnen— involved in politics. i was chairman of— involved in politics. i was chairman of the conservative aeeccieiicn— chairman of the conservative association. i— chairman of the conservative association. i started my own pwpiiening— association. i started my own publishing business at the end of my— publishing business at the end of my firec— publishing business at the end of my first year. _ publishing business at the end of my first year. by my third, it we— of my first year. by my third, ii pewing— of my first year. by my third, it was paying more than a job it was paying me more than a job weeni— it was paying me more than a job we sc— it was paying me more than a job we so i— it was paying me more than a job would. so i decided— it was paying me more than a job would. so i decided i'd always wenreci— would. so i decided i'd always wenreci rc— would. so i decided i'd always wenreci re ge— would. so i decided i'd always wanted to go into— would. so i decided i'd always wanted to go into politics. since— wanted to go into politics. since i— wanted to go into politics. since i we— wanted to go into politics. since i was school, i thought since i was at school, i thought i'd since i was at school, i thought iii-ii— since i was at school, i thought i'd-i'd become- i'd go and i'd become an entrepreneur— i'd go and i'd become an entrepreneur to create jobs, ceere— entrepreneur to create jobs, create wealth, _ entrepreneur to create jobs, create wealth, and then go into pciiiice— create wealth, and then go into pciirice. sc— create wealth, and then go into pciiiice. so i— create wealth, and then go into politics. so i wasn't overly iweeei— politics. so i wasn't overly fussed about— politics. so i wasn't overly fussed about my degree. i was nwcn— fussed about my degree. i was nwcn nwcn— fussed about my degree. i was much, much upset about the much, much more upset about the nine— much, much more upset about the tenure—peer- much, much more upset about the failure—boat in- failure to catch the boat in ironi— failure to catch the boat in front ci— failure to catch the boat in front of ne— failure to catch the boat in front of me in— failure to catch the boat in front of me in the in that wee— front of me in the in that weer-e peer— front of me in the in that year's boat race. all male boarding schools , are they are boarding schools, are they are they brutal places or is that a stereotype that doesn't i mean, most of my friends, i think, enjoyed enjoyed it. i happen not to. so enjoyed enjoyed it. i happen not re. sc nest— enjoyed enjoyed it. i happen not re. so most i— enjoyed enjoyed it. i happen not to. so most i shouldn't- ri: ri: e i happen not to. so most i shouldn't you know you— to. so most i shouldn't you know wee encwiin-r— to. so most i shouldn't you know you shouldn't colour anything or wew— you shouldn't colour anything or one way or another. i didn't penicwieriw— one way or another. i didn't particularly enjoy it . and so particularly enjoy it. and so per—
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particularly enjoy it. and so put wee— particularly enjoy it. and so but you know,— particularly enjoy it. and so but you know, apart from the rick— but you know, apart from the tick enci— but you know, apart from the tick enci ine— but you know, apart from the tick and the difficulty talking to women— tick and the difficulty talking to women , otherwise it's left me to women, otherwise it's left me wnnernei— to women, otherwise it's left me wnnernei . — to women, otherwise it's left me unharmed . you— to women, otherwise it's left me unharmed. /r:ir. g irir unharmed. you being serious, do you reckon it does when you're in a single sex school, particularly a boarding school? do reckon it does create do you reckon it does create difficulties talking to the opposite sex? oh, i don't know . opposite sex? oh, i don't know. i opposite sex? oh, i don't know. i een-r— opposite sex? oh, i don't know. i een-r i— opposite sex? oh, i don't know. i een-r i een-r— opposite sex? oh, i don't know. i don't i don't think— opposite sex? oh, i don't know. i don't i don't think it's-
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within days. what happened that night? well i was ready, as you say, to sum up at the end of rather in a packed house, in rather in a packed house, in rather a fractious debate . but rather a fractious debate. but when i suddenly got- rather a fractious debate. but when i suddenly got the- ”emit : but when i suddenly got the message penni— when i suddenly got the message penini newe— when i suddenly got the message behind have you— when i suddenly got the message behind have you seen your phone go? behind have you seen your phone gee anci— behind have you seen your phone gee ani rnie— behind have you seen your phone go? and this was— behind have you seen your phone go? and this was two minutes peiee— go? and this was two minutes before i— go? and this was two minutes before i nei— go? and this was two minutes before i had to— go? and this was two minutes before i had to begin the ewnnerw— before i had to begin the summary summing up at the ieepercn— summary summing up at the eeepercn pew— summary summing up at the despatch box and i said no. and i despatch box and i said no. and i reeked— despatch box and i said no. and i icckeci er— despatch box and i said no. and i icckeci er ir— despatch box and i said no. and i looked at it and— despatch box and i said no. and i looked at it and it— despatch box and i said no. and i looked at it and it said, you knew,— i looked at it and it said, you know, number— i looked at it and it said, you know, number 10— i looked at it and it said, you know, number 10 won't confirmation- know, number 10 won't confirmation that you'll say its— confirmation that you'll say ire-e— confirmation that you'll say it's-a confidence- confirmation that you'll say it's a confidence vote. so it's not a confidence vote. so i ice,— it's not a confidence vote. so i he, okay— it's not a confidence vote. so i was like, okay, good soldier, iii— was like, okay, good soldier, in sew— was like, okay, good soldier, i-ii eew ii.— was like, okay, good soldier, in eew ii. sc— was like, okay, good soldier, i'll say it. so i— was like, okay, good soldier, i'll say it. so i stood up i to ie— i'll say it. so i stood up i to be rein— i'll say it. so i stood up i to be pg. i— i'll say it. so i stood up i to be fair, i tried— i'll say it. so i stood up i to be fair, i tried just to slip it in. i— be fair, i tried just to slip it in. i ncpei— be fair, i tried just to slip it in. i hoped people might just eecripe— in. i hoped people might just eecripe ir— in. i hoped people might just ascribe it to— in. i hoped people might just ascribe it to me.— in. i hoped people might just ascribe it to me. i said, mr. epeece,— ascribe it to me. i said, mr. speaker, what— ascribe it to me. i said, mr. speaker, what a— ascribe it to me. i said, mr. speaker, what a great debate. iecnniceiiw,— speaker, what a great debate. technically, it's— speaker, what a great debate. technically, it's probably not a confidence— technically, it's probably not a confidence vote,— technically, it's probably not a confidence vote, but blah blah, bien— confidence vote, but blah blah, wen-lie— confidence vote, but blah blah, wen-lie ieii— confidence vote, but blah blah, blah..be fair to— confidence vote, but blah blah, blah. be fair to miliband, blah. to be fair to ed miliband, he blah. to be fair to ed miliband, ne-ncr— blah. to be fair to ed miliband, ne-ncr rc— blah. to be fair to ed miliband, he-hot to trot— blah. to be fair to ed miliband, he-hot to trot on- blah. to be fair to ed miliband, he hot to trot on it. he he was hot to trot on it. he ne-e— he was hot to trot on it. he we been— he was hot to trot on it. he he's been around and he was pcwncing— he's been around and he was pcwncing ep— he's been around and he was bouncing up and— he's been around and he was bouncing up and down relentlessly. - bouncing up and down relentlessly. so eventually and pecpie— relentlessly. so eventually and pecpie penini— relentlessly. so eventually and people behind me were getting a wine— people behind me were getting a iirrie epcckei— people behind me were getting a little spooked as— people behind me were getting a little spooked as well. so peeiceiiw— little spooked as well. so peeiceiiw, i— little spooked as well. so basically, i did- little spooked as well. so basically, i did what i was told
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to ie— basically, i did what i was told to we, wnicn— basically, i did what i was told to do, which is— basically, i did what i was told to do, which is to— basically, i did what i was told to do, which is to say it wasn't a to do, which is to say it wasn't e confidence— to do, which is to say it wasn't a confidence vote— to do, which is to say it wasn't a confidence vote after it had been— a confidence vote after it had been seni— a confidence vote after it had been sent out— a confidence vote after it had been sent out earlier that it sc— been sent out earlier that it sc ir— been sent out earlier that it was. so it did— been sent out earlier that it was. so it did lead to and contribute— was. so it did lead to and contribute to— was. so it did lead to and contribute to a- was. so it did lead to and contribute to a sense of chaos. i contribute to a sense of chaos. i win— contribute to a sense of chaos. i rninw ,— contribute to a sense of chaos. i rninw , er— contribute to a sense of chaos. i think , at the— contribute to a sense of chaos. i think , at the time. and ed i think, at the time. and ed iiiiipenci— i think, at the time. and ed miliband, eventually i think i gewe— miliband, eventually i think i gewe wew— miliband, eventually i think i gewe wew by— miliband, eventually i think i gave way by saying, mr. speaker, i'd gave way by saying, mr. speaker, i-ci percei— gave way by saying, mr. speaker, it better ine— gave way by saying, mr. speaker, i'd better the right— gave way by saying, mr. speaker, i'd better the right honourable genrienen— i'd better the right honourable gentleman come— i'd better the right honourable gentleman come in or he may he may— gentleman come in or he may he new purer— gentleman come in or he may he new iwrer e— gentleman come in or he may he may burst a blood— gentleman come in or he may he may burst a blood gasket . so ed may burst a blood gasket. so ed in enci— may burst a blood gasket. so ed came in and made— may burst a blood gasket. so ed came in and made the point as weir.— came in and made the point as weii. sc— came in and made the point as weii. sc enci— came in and made the point as well. so and there— came in and made the point as well. so and there we are. and rnen— well. so and there we are. and rnen we— well. so and there we are. and rnen we wen— well. so and there we are. and then we won, of— well. so and there we are. and then we won, of course, the vote epeeiwreiw— then we won, of course, the vote absolutely crushingly anyway. so. absolutely crushingly anyway. se. rewr— absolutely crushingly anyway. se. put its— absolutely crushingly anyway. so. but it's one— absolutely crushingly anyway. so. but it's one of those things enter— so. but it's one of those things wnier enter— so. but it's one of those things under under pressure, i guess. do under under pressure, i guess. i>e wew— under under pressure, i guess. i>e wew newe— under under pressure, i guess. pe wew newe e— under under pressure, i guess. do you have a stiff drink after iner— do you have a stiff drink after rner nignw— do you have a stiff drink after rner nignw — do you have a stiff drink after that night? yeah— do you have a stiff drink after that night? t/ririi" yeah, do you have a stiff drink after that night? / yeah, i did. that night? yeah. yeah, i did. anci— that night? yeah. yeah, i did. and ei— that night? yeah. yeah, i did. and of course— that night? yeah. yeah, i did. and of course the— that night? / yeah, i did. and of course the following day liz and of course the following day iiz irres— and of course the following day liz truss resigned.— and of course the following day liz truss resigned. so my renpererw— liz truss resigned. so my temporary sojourn in the cabinet re— temporary sojourn in the cabinet came to an end— temporary sojourn in the cabinet came to an end that night i was on came to an end that night i was en cweerien— came to an end that night i was on question time— came to an end that night i was on question time and i had eeerwe— on question time and i had everyone coming on number 10, winner— everyone coming on number 10, number io— everyone coming on number 10, number io en— everyone coming on number 10, number 10 on are— everyone coming on number 10, number 10 on are they saying wewre— number 10 on are they saying wewre pwiiing— number 10 on are they saying you're pulling out of question iinee— you're pulling out of question iinee ie— you're pulling out of question time? to which— you're pulling out of question time? to which i— you're pulling out of question time? to which i said, well, i een-r— time? to which i said, well, i een-r rnink— time? to which i said, well, i don't think so.— time? to which i said, well, i don't think so. and then eeerwe— don't think so. and then everyone -the. don't think so. and then everyone the day don't think so. and then- everyone -the day was everyone through the day was reiiing— everyone through the day was reiiing-ere— everyone through the day was telling-are-are- everyone through the day was telling are are you telling me, are you are you ecrweiiw— telling me, are you are you ecrweiiw geing— telling me, are you are you actually going on until eventually— actually going on until eventually took me eventually fiona bruce took me
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witn— eventually fiona bruce took me wirn-nenie— eventually fiona bruce took me wirn-nenielnw- eventually fiona bruce took me with hands my arm and with both hands on my arm and sew,— with both hands on my arm and eeici-cen-r— with both hands on my arm and said,-can't believe- said, oh, we can't believe wewre— said, oh, we can't believe wew-re-ar— said, oh, we can't believe you're-at which- you're here. at which point i was thinking,— you're here. at which point i was thinking, what am i? why am i was thinking, what am i? why am i neree— was thinking, what am i? why am i neree wner— was thinking, what am i? why am i here? what am— was thinking, what am i? why am i here? what am i— was thinking, what am i? why am i here? what am i doing here? were— i here? what am i doing here? were fren— i here? what am i doing here? more from graham— i here? what am i doing here? more from graham stuart- i here? what am i doing here? more from graham stuart after the break. so i think the net zero, although— the break. so i think the net zero, although it's- so i think the net zero, although it's seen as some eeri— zero, although it's seen as some set ei— zero, although it's seen as some set er green— zero, although it's seen as some sort of green conceit some, sort of green conceit by some, ecrweiiw— sort of green conceit by some, actually opportunity actually offers an opportunity for-renaissance- actually offers an opportunity for renaissance for the for economic renaissance for the uk enci— for economic renaissance for the uk and industrial— for economic renaissance for the uk and industrial renaissance .
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personal question now you separated from your wife last yean separated from your wife last year, of course . i don't need to year, of course. i don't need to know the details of what happened. obviously, it's upsetting for everybody involved . but what i did want to ask you aboutis . but what i did want to ask you about is whether parliamentary working . the fact that people working. the fact that people are away from home for most of
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the week. does parliamentary working contribute to families breaking down or put a strain on families? well as i mean, the divorce rate is pretty high in parliament, but so yeah, it puts it puts strains on families and depending on where you live as well, of course, if you don't move together and you're separated, then it can put, put pressure on. so it can do. but i been— pressure on. so it can do. but i been nerriei— pressure on. so it can do. but i been married for,— ti cit" so it can do. but i been married for, what, 33 weeree— been married for, what, 33 weeree we-we— been married for, what, 33 years? we've got two lovely iewgnrere— years? we've got two lovely daughters and,— years? we've got two lovely daughters and, and i still have a daughters and, and i still have e geei— daughters and, and i still have a good relationship . so, you a good relationship. so, you knew,— a good relationship. so, you knew, in— a good relationship. so, you know, i'm grateful as i think ene— know, i'm grateful as i think ene ie— know, i'm grateful as i think ene ie rer— know, i'm grateful as i think she is for what— know, i'm grateful as i think she is for what we've what we iwiir— she is for what we've what we built together— she is for what we've what we built together ._ she is for what we've what we built together . albie we'll now built together. albie we'll now be geing— built together. albie we'll now be ieing ir— built together. albie we'll now be doing it separately. me okay , ee i— be doing it separately. me okay , ee i we— be doing it separately. me okay , so i was looking— be doing it separately. me okay , so i was looking at old interviewe— , so i was looking at old interviews that- , so i was looking at old interviews that you have given pecee— interviews that you have given pecee wee— interviews that you have given because you've been in parliament— because you've been in parliament since 2005. um, so you— parliament since 2005. um, so wew were— parliament since 2005. um, so wew epere— parliament since 2005. um, so you were there as— parliament since 2005. um, so you were there as that labour government one term and then you were there as that labour government lost that power. so
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this is an interview with the guardian ten years ago. you said you wanted public spending cuts faster and that you deplore welfare dependency . just wonder welfare dependency. just wonder ten years later, where does graham stewart still hold the same views? have you changed your mind on anything ? well, you your mind on anything? well, you probably have changed— t r: q7 well, you probably have changed your mind on probably have changed your mind en rninge— probably have changed your mind on some things, but the fundamentals- on some things, but the fundamentals i believe in trying in ne— fundamentals i believe in trying in we winne— fundamentals i believe in trying in the virtue of— fundamentals i believe in trying in the virtue of work, of trying to in the virtue of work, of trying re nece— in the virtue of work, of trying to make work— in the virtue of work, of trying to make work pay.— in the virtue of work, of trying to make work pay. i'm proud of wner— to make work pay. i'm proud of we rnie— to make work pay. i'm proud of what this government has done. you what this government has done. wew knew— what this government has done. wew knew ,— what this government has done. wew knew , ee— what this government has done. you know , one of— what this government has done. you know , one of the you know, you know, one of the you know, ine— you know, one of the you know, we rrepee— you know, one of the you know, the tropes against— you know, one of the you know, the tropes against labour governments— the tropes against labour governments and it's a fair one, is iner— governments and it's a fair one, is net rnew— governments and it's a fair one, is that they always— governments and it's a fair one, is that they always end up with nigner— is that they always end up with higher unemployment at the end rnen— higher unemployment at the end rnen-peginning— higher unemployment at the end rnen-peginning .— higher unemployment at the end than beginning . there's no than the beginning. there's no eignirw— than the beginning. there's no eignirwlrner.— than the beginning. there's no dignity.that..so- than the beginning. there's no dignity that. so getting dignity in that. and so getting peepie— dignity in that. and so getting peepie-werk,— dignity in that. and so getting people work, which have dignity in that. and so getting peoplwith, work, which have dignity in that. and so getting peoplwith, yourk, which have dignity in that. and so getting peoplwith, you know, ch have dignity in that. and so getting peoplwith, you know, the have dignity in that. and so getting peoplwith, you know, the kind ve dignity in that. and so getting peoplwith, you know, the kind of done with, you know, the kind of wew— done with, you know, the kind of wew-empiewnenr- done with, you know, the kind of very employment rates by very high employment rates by neking— very high employment rates by neking werk— very high employment rates by neking werk payr— very high employment rates by making work pay, raising the iiwing— making work pay, raising the iiwing wege— making work pay, raising the iiwing wege, i— making work pay, raising the living wage, i think we've made an enormous positive difference to an enormous positive difference re peepie-e— an enormous positive difference to people's lives— an enormous positive difference to people's lives in terms of cneir— to people's lives in terms of new eignirw— to people's lives in terms of new eignirw ,— to people's lives in terms of their dignity , their ability to their dignity, their ability to werk— their dignity, their ability to werk enci— their dignity, their ability to work and the— their dignity, their ability to work and the income that they prewgnr— work and the income that they prewgnr neme— work and the income that they brought home as— work and the income that they brought home as well. and that's
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a brought home as well. and that's e ceneeweriwe— brought home as well. and that's a conservative vision rather rnen— a conservative vision rather inen peepie— a conservative vision rather than people being trapped in eepeneencw— than people being trapped in dependency, which is what i epnerrei— dependency, which is what i epnerreci .— dependency, which is what i abhorred . and— dependency, which is what i abhorred . and especially with abhorred. and especially with iner— abhorred. and especially with rner-ei— abhorred. and especially with that-of rather- abhorred. and especially with that of rather unhealthy that kind of rather unhealthy reierienenip— that kind of rather unhealthy relationship as— that kind of rather unhealthy relationship as i— that kind of rather unhealthy relationship as i would see it witn— relationship as i would see it wirn ine— relationship as i would see it with the labour— relationship as i would see it with the labour party, where economic dysfunction actually cenrriiwree— economic dysfunction actually contributes to _ economic dysfunction actually contributes to electoral success. and - contributes to electoral success. and what you've got to do success. and what you've got to ie is— success. and what you've got to ie is neke — success. and what you've got to do is make sure— success. and what you've got to do is make sure that that's not ine— do is make sure that that's not we ceee— do is make sure that that's not we i— do is make sure that that's not the case. i remember saying to a irr— the case. i remember saying to a we in— the case. i remember saying to a we in new— the case. i remember saying to a new mp in hull and— the case. i remember saying to a new mp in hull and i was saying, wew,— new mp in hull and i was saying, weii, wew— new mp in hull and i was saying, well, your predecessor was , you well, your predecessor was, you knew,— well, your predecessor was, you knew so— well, your predecessor was, you know, was 30 years— well, your predecessor was, you know, was 30 years ago, was eewing — know, was 30 years ago, was eewing new— know, was 30 years ago, was saying how dreadful everything anci— saying how dreadful everything and so— saying how dreadful everything was. and 30 years on, they're ner— was. and 30 years on, they're ner enw— was. and 30 years on, they're not any better. _ was. and 30 years on, they're not any better. even after 30 weere— not any better. even after 30 weere ei— not any better. even after 30 years of labour— not any better. even after 30 years of labour government. so you— years of labour government. so wew knew,— years of labour government. so wew knew, i— years of labour government. so wew knew, i nepe— years of labour government. so you know, i hope you know , any you know, i hope you know, any of you know, i hope you know, any er we— you know, i hope you know, any of us, regardless— you know, i hope you know, any of us, regardless of— you know, i hope you know, any of us, regardless of our peiirice— of us, regardless of our politics, would make sure that the politics, would make sure that rne peepie— politics, would make sure that rne peepie we— politics, would make sure that the people we represent were better— the people we represent were better err— the people we represent were better err ,— the people we represent were better off , had— the people we represent were better off , had more dignity, better off, had more dignity, newer— better off, had more dignity, perrer epie— better off, had more dignity, better able to— better off, had more dignity, better able to make their own iecieiene— better able to make their own iecieiene in— better able to make their own decisions in lives— better able to make their own decisions in lives and could cerw— decisions in lives and could cerw en— decisions in lives and could carry on thinking that all government— carry on thinking that all government was useless and irreiewenr. — government was useless and irrelevant. because that's what neppene.— irrelevant. because that's what happens. be irrelevant. because that's what hap|that be irrelevant. because that's what hap|that when be irrelevant. because that's what hap|that when they've be irrelevant. because that's what hap|that when they've got be like that when they've got cenrrei— like that when they've got cenrrei ei— like that when they've got control of their— like that when they've got control of their own lives. and rner-e— control of their own lives. and rner-e e— control of their own lives. and rner-e e wew— control of their own lives. and that's a very conservative parapre, — principle, which i hold strongly to. principle, which i hold strongly re-ier-e— principle, which i hold strongly re-ier-e ieek— principle, which i hold strongly to.-let's look at- principle, which i hold strongly to. let's look at your to. okay, let's look at your prici— to. okay, let's look at your priei . — to. okay, let's look at your priei. se— to. okay, let's look at your brief . so when- to. okay, let's look at your brief . i
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brief. so when you look at opinion polls , everyone says we opinion polls, everyone says we want to save the planet. we want action to save the planet. if you ask people what if it personally affects you? what if , if you have to have a low traffic neighbourhood so you have to pay to drive locally or that you won't be able to have a new gas boiler because there won't be any gas boilers . the won't be any gas boilers. the enthusiasm for the net zero project wins significantly . do project wins significantly. do you think the public are being heard on those concern as well ? heard on those concern as well? i guess they are, but equally ine— i guess they are, but equally rne eciece— i guess they are, but equally the science is— i guess they are, but equally the science is just cruel, isn't it? the science is just cruel, isn't ire anci— the science is just cruel, isn't ire ani ir— the science is just cruel, isn't it? and it gets— the science is just cruel, isn't it? and it gets the consensus geis— it? and it gets the consensus geie errenger— it? and it gets the consensus gets stronger and stronger if we een-r— gets stronger and stronger if we een-r peek— gets stronger and stronger if we een-r peek ew— gets stronger and stronger if we don't peak our emissions pretty wew,— don't peak our emissions pretty well, immediate— don't peak our emissions pretty well, immediate albie and have eigniiicenr— well, immediate albie and have significant cuts— well, immediate albie and have significant cuts by— well, immediate albie and have significant cuts by 2030, then the significant cuts by 2030, then we piener— significant cuts by 2030, then the planet will— significant cuts by 2030, then the planet will continue to heat up the planet will continue to heat wp rne — the planet will continue to heat wp rne weekeer— the planet will continue to heat up the weakest and poorest on the up the weakest and poorest on we piener— up the weakest and poorest on the planet will— up the weakest and poorest on the planet will suffer the most. so the planet will suffer the most. se rner-e— the planet will suffer the most. se rner-e ine— the planet will suffer the most. so that's the kind— the planet will suffer the most. so that's the kind of big piciwre— so that's the kind of big picture. but— so that's the kind of big picture. but you're right, to skewe— picture. but you're right, to gong, say— picture. but you're right, to gloria, say, we've also got to wing— gloria, say, we've also got to bring ir— gloria, say, we've also got to bring it iewn— gloria, say, we've also got to bring it down to— gloria, say, we've also got to bring it down to people's ewerweew— bring it down to people's everyday lives.- bring it down to people's everyday lives. well, i think in the everyday lives. well, i think in we irk— everyday lives. well, i think in we wk ,— everyday lives. well, i think in the uk , notwithstanding some of
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the uk, notwithstanding some of rneee— the uk, notwithstanding some of ineee pereenei— the uk, notwithstanding some of those personal interventions , as those personal interventions, as wew— those personal interventions, as wew say— those personal interventions, as wew saye iner— those personal interventions, as you say, that could— those personal interventions, as you say, that could at times be unwelcome. but— you say, that could at times be unwelcome. but we've got a rreneniewe— unwelcome. but we've got a tremendous opportunity . when we tremendous opportunity. when we reek— tremendous opportunity. when we reek-ine— tremendous opportunity. when we reek-rne cep— tremendous opportunity. when we took the cop presidency, took over the cop presidency, you— took over the cop presidency, wew knew,— took over the cop presidency, wew knew, ine— took over the cop presidency, you know, the un process , only you know, the un process, only sow— you know, the un process, only gee. ei— you know, the un process, only sore er giepei— you know, the un process, only 30% of global wealth was covered by ner— 30% of global wealth was covered by ner ee— 30% of global wealth was covered by net zero pledges. by the time wew— by net zero pledges. by the time we-ci pager,— by net zero pledges. by the time we'd finished, it— by net zero pledges. by the time we'd finished, it was 90. so the were,— we'd finished, it was 90. so the werii, wew— we'd finished, it was 90. so the world, you know,— we'd finished, it was 90. so the world, you know, people who have to world, you know, people who have re werrw— world, you know, people who have re werw epewr— world, you know, people who have to worry about getting re—elected_ to worry about getting re—elected all over the world newe — re—elected all over the world have recognised— re—elected all over the world have recognised the science is prerrw— have recognised the science is pretty unarguable, but if you ieek— pretty unarguable, but if you ieek er— pretty unarguable, but if you ieek er ine— pretty unarguable, but if you look at the uk— pretty unarguable, but if you look at the uk and you see all eiienere— look at the uk and you see all our offshore wind,— look at the uk and you see all our offshore wind, which we've ciene — our offshore wind, which we've ciene e— our offshore wind, which we've done a tremendous job of eeweieping— done a tremendous job of developing under this government, i'm very proud to say— government, i'm very proud to eew-ceprwre— government, i'm very proud to eew-ceprwre eii- government, i'm very proud to say-capture all of- government, i'm very proud to say capture all of the say if we capture all of the renewables_ say if we capture all of the renewables that— say if we capture all of the renewables that we've we renewables that we've got, we ceen— renewables that we've got, we ceerr iner— renewables that we've got, we convert that hydrogen , convert that into hydrogen, wnicn— convert that into hydrogen, which important part of which is an important part of ne— which is an important part of inc-anci— which is an important part of the-and.make- which is an important part of. the-and.make-of the future. and we make use of the future. and we make use of we cepen— the future. and we make use of the carbon capture— the future. and we make use of the carbon capture that we have in ne— the carbon capture that we have in we weren— the carbon capture that we have in the north sea,— the carbon capture that we have in the north sea, depleted oil enci— in the north sea, depleted oil ene gee— in the north sea, depleted oil ene gee weiie— in the north sea, depleted oil and gas wells. we took wealth out and gas wells. we took wealth cut in— and gas wells. we took wealth cut in ne— and gas wells. we took wealth out in the form _ and gas wells. we took wealth out in the form of— and gas wells. we took wealth out in the form of oil and gas. we— out in the form of oil and gas. we ce— out in the form of oil and gas. we pwr— out in the form of oil and gas. we can put carbon— out in the form of oil and gas. we can put carbon back in there enci— we can put carbon back in there ene prewicie— we can put carbon back in there ene prewicie e— we can put carbon back in there and provide a service the and provide a service to the reei— and provide a service to the reerliwrepe.— and provide a service to the rest.europe..i- and provide a service to the rest europe. i think going rest of europe. so i think going ierwerci— rest of europe. so i think going forward, there's— rest of europe. so i think going forward, there's a— rest of europe. so i think going forward, there's a real chance iner— forward, there's a real chance rner we— forward, there's a real chance that we could— forward, there's a real chance that we could actually have enenger— that we could actually have amongst competitor that we could actually have- amongst-competitor of amongst the most competitor of eiecrricirw— amongst the most competitor of electricity prices—
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amongst the most competitor of electricity prices in europe in a electricity prices in europe in e iergeiw— electricity prices in europe in a largely electrified economy . a largely electrified economy. so a largely electrified economy. se rnere-e— a largely electrified economy. so there's more— a largely electrified economy. so there's more jobs and where are so there's more jobs and where rnew— so there's more jobs and where inew iikeiw— so there's more jobs and where are they likely to _ so there's more jobs and where are they likely to be? the new—eeen— are they likely to be? the north—east, the north—west, scerienci— north—east, the north—west, scotland, wales,— north—east, the north—west, scotland, wales, the very areas wnicn— scotland, wales, the very areas wnicn wnen— scotland, wales, the very areas which when you— scotland, wales, the very areas which when you talk about ieweiiing— which when you talk about ieweiiing wp— which when you talk about levelling up, which might apply to levelling up, which might apply re ine— levelling up, which might apply re rne-cewnrrw,- levelling up, which might apply to the country, but means to the whole country, but means nest— to the whole country, but means neer i— to the whole country, but means neer i rnink— to the whole country, but means most i think-those— to the whole country, but means most i think those those most i think in those those inciwerriei— most i think in those those industrial areas— most i think in those those industrial areas of the country iner— industrial areas of the country rner-ieir— industrial areas of the country that-left behind.- industrial areas of the country that left behind. so that felt left behind. so i rnink— that felt left behind. so i wink-ner— that felt left behind. so i think-net zero,- that felt left behind. so i think net zero, although think the net zero, although it's think the net zero, although we see— think the net zero, although its ee— think the net zero, although it's seen as some sort of green cenceir— it's seen as some sort of green cenceir by— it's seen as some sort of green cenceii by ee— it's seen as some sort of green conceit by some, actually offers an conceit by some, actually offers en—ier— conceit by some, actually offers an_for economic- an opportunity for economic renaissance for— an opportunity for economic renaissance for the uk, an inciwerriei— renaissance for the uk, an industrial renaissance. and rner-e— industrial renaissance. and rner-e wew— industrial renaissance. and that's very much the vision that cienc— that's very much the vision that crenr sneppe— that's very much the vision that grant shapps and— that's very much the vision that grant shapps and my department and grant shapps and my department end i— grant shapps and my department end i ee— grant shapps and my department and i are pursuing— grant shapps and my department and i are pursuing to deliver a rew— and i are pursuing to deliver a iew cesi— and i are pursuing to deliver a iew ceer green— and i are pursuing to deliver a low cost green system in which you— low cost green system in which wew peepie— low cost green system in which wew peepie ee— low cost green system in which you people are not— low cost green system in which you people are not paying inrewgn— you people are not paying through there— you people are not paying through there with jobs and preeperirw— through there with jobs and preeperirw rer— through there with jobs and prosperity for what is an eeeenriei— prosperity for what is an essential response to the science. and— essential response to the science. and finally , what do science. and finally, what do you— science. and finally, what do wew eew— science. and finally, what do wew eew re— science. and finally, what do wew eew re ine— science. and finally, what do you say to the mum who says, rwe— you say to the mum who says, he ger— you say to the mum who says, he get re— you say to the mum who says, we get re trep— you say to the mum who says, i've got to drop my kids off at ecneeie — i've got to drop my kids off at ecneeie ire— i've got to drop my kids off at school? it's costing- i've got to drop my kids off at school? c t g school? it's costing me a fortune to the handyman who says , this is my lifeline. i have to
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drive with my van to get to work . they are probably not with you because they're paying an arm and a leg . erg well, the aim and a leg. erg well, the aim wew— and a leg. erg well, the aim wew nwcn— and a leg. erg well, the aim wew nwcn ie— and a leg. erg well, the aim very much is to— and a leg. erg well, the aim very much is to see,- rii’r: airg erg well, the aim very much is to see, as we air: airg erg well, the aim very much is to see, as we have ie ine— very much is to see, as we have seen, is the cost— very much is to see, as we have seen, is the cost of— very much is to see, as we have seen, is the cost of green iniwerriee— seen, is the cost of green industries and— seen, is the cost of green industries and services coming iewn— industries and services coming iewn. i— industries and services coming iewn. i neen— industries and services coming down. i mean, offshore wind just off down. i mean, offshore wind just err nw— down. i mean, offshore wind just err nw percn— down. i mean, offshore wind just err nw percn ir— down. i mean, offshore wind just off my patch, it was £120 a negewerr— off my patch, it was £120 a megawatt hour— off my patch, it was £120 a megawatt hour in 2015 auction by just megawatt hour in 2015 auction by we we— megawatt hour in 2015 auction by just two auctions— megawatt hour in 2015 auction by just two auctions later in 2019, it we— just two auctions later in 2019, ii iss— just two auctions later in 2019, ii new, so— just two auctions later in 2019, it was £39, 50 rolling out renewables_ it was £39, 50 rolling out renewables is— it was £39, 50 rolling out renewables is actually lowering the renewables is actually lowering rne cesi— renewables is actually lowering rne ceer ei— renewables is actually lowering the cost of our— renewables is actually lowering the cost of our energy system. its— the cost of our energy system. we expeeive — the cost of our energy system. it's expensive. fossil fuels wnicn— it's expensive. fossil fuels wnicn ee— it's expensive. fossil fuels which are making everyone's energw— which are making everyone's energw piiie— which are making everyone's energy bills so— which are making everyone's energy bills so high at the nenenr — energy bills so high at the nenenr se— energy bills so high at the moment. so we- energy bills so high at the moment. so we are going hell for ieerner— moment. so we are going hell for ieerner re— moment. so we are going hell for leather to increase— moment. so we are going hell for leather to increase and capture all leather to increase and capture eii ine— leather to increase and capture eii rne green— leather to increase and capture all the green energy. and if we cie— all the green energy. and if we ie iner— all the green energy. and if we can do that properly and have the can do that properly and have we grie— can do that properly and have rne grii enci— can do that properly and have the grid and the— can do that properly and have the grid and the charging infrastructure, _ the grid and the charging infrastructure, then the cost of cnerging— infrastructure, then the cost of cnerging wew— infrastructure, then the cost of charging your car— infrastructure, then the cost of charging your car should turn out charging your car should turn cut in— charging your car should turn cut in ieng— charging your car should turn out in long term— charging your car should turn out in long term to be lower. i nepe— out in long term to be lower. i nepe, rnen— out in long term to be lower. i hope, than that— out in long term to be lower. i hope, than that of— out in long term to be lower. i hope, than that of sticking in iiirnw— hope, than that of sticking in some filthy substance which you rnen— some filthy substance which you rnen pwrn— some filthy substance which you then burn poisoning the air for all then burn poisoning the air for eii ei— then burn poisoning the air for eii er we— then burn poisoning the air for eii er se— then burn poisoning the air for all of us. so i— then burn poisoning the air for all of us. so i it's— then burn poisoning the air for all of us. so i it's not i don't
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rnink— all of us. so i it's not i don't think there's— all of us. so i it's not i don't think there's a— all of us. so i it's not i don't think there's a contradiction incre— think there's a contradiction were in— think there's a contradiction there. i'm not— think there's a contradiction there. i'm not saying it's enrireiw— there. i'm not saying it's entirely cost— there. i'm not saying it's entirely cost free and there ien-r— entirely cost free and there ien-r ee— entirely cost free and there isn't some inconvenience, but i rnink— isn't some inconvenience, but i rnink ine— isn't some inconvenience, but i think the vision— isn't some inconvenience, but i think the vision that we can ieiiver— think the vision that we can ieiiver ie— think the vision that we can deliver is of— think the vision that we can deliver is of a— think the vision that we can deliver is of a greener country iner— deliver is of a greener country rner ieeie— deliver is of a greener country that leads the— deliver is of a greener country that leads the world, develops the technology, _ the technology, sells those eeiwriene— the technology, sells those solutions - and l the technology, sells those . solutions - and does the technology, sells those - solutions-and does so solutions elsewhere and does so in e— solutions elsewhere and does so in e wew— solutions elsewhere and does so in e wew wnicn— solutions elsewhere and does so in a way which leaves us as the nest— in a way which leaves us as the most competitive— in a way which leaves us as the most competitive economy in iwrepe. — most competitive economy in iwrepe. -cen— most competitive economy in europe. can deliver all europe. if we can deliver all new— europe. if we can deliver all rner-we-ve— europe. if we can deliver all that,-we've done- europe. if we can deliver all that, we've done right by that, then we've done right by the that, then we've done right by we piener.— that, then we've done right by the planet. well,— that, then we've done right by the planet. well, we've also tene— the planet. well, we've also gene-ine— the planet. well, we've also done the handyman done right by the handyman driving— done right by the handyman driving-enci- done right by the handyman driving and able to go driving his van and able to go enci— driving his van and able to go ene service,— driving his van and able to go and service,-know,- driving his van and able to go and service, know, families and service, you know, families up and service, you know, families wp enci— and service, you know, families wp ene iewn— and service, you know, families up and down country and look up and down the country and look ener— up and down the country and look ene-en— up and down the country and look after-an affordable- up and down the country and look after an affordable way. after them in an affordable way. skewere— after them in an affordable way. graham stuart— after them in an affordable way. graham stuart ,_ after them in an affordable way. graham stuart , thank you very graham stuart, thank you very nwcn— graham stuart, thank you very nwcn inieei— graham stuart, thank you very much indeed. _ graham stuart, thank you very much indeed . irg a much indeed. coming up, conservative mp jo gideon. you see a little toddler died after swallowing a button battery. and i promised her mother, stacy and and i promised her mother, stacy end its— and i promised her mother, stacy end is e— and i promised her mother, stacy and it's a campaign— and i promised her mother, stacy and it's a campaign with a local newepeper— and it's a campaign with a local newepeper ee— and it's a campaign with a local newspaper as well— and it's a campaign with a local newspaper as well that we would neke— newspaper as well that we would make sure that— newspaper as well that we would make sure that the— newspaper as well that we would make sure that the button perreriee— make sure that the button batteries there's more safety .
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jo gideon , the conservative mp jo gideon, the conservative mp for jo gideon, the conservative mp ier sicke— jo gideon, the conservative mp ier sreke en— jo gideon, the conservative mp for stoke on trent— jo gideon, the conservative mp for stoke on trent central, eiecrei— for stoke on trent central, eiecreci .— for stoke on trent central, eiecreci . in— for stoke on trent central, elected . in 2019. i i e elected. in 2019. i can't peiieve— elected. in 2019. i can't believe how old you are, actually. thank you. you're 70. so you were elected to parliament for the first time at 67? yes do you think there's any ageism in parliament? well, i just don't accept any- g i 7 well,i just don't accept any sort of gieee— just don't accept any sort of glass ceilings— just don't accept any sort of glass ceilings and barriers . but glass ceilings and barriers. but yes,— glass ceilings and barriers. but yesr cerieiniw— glass ceilings and barriers. but yes, certainly there is. i think you— yes, certainly there is. i think wew neve— yes, certainly there is. i think wew neve re— yes, certainly there is. i think you have to have— yes, certainly there is. i think you have to have a huge level of reeiiience— you have to have a huge level of reeiiience re— you have to have a huge level of resilience to become an mp and, you— resilience to become an mp and, wew knew,— resilience to become an mp and, wew knew, i-ve— resilience to become an mp and, you know, i've just— resilience to become an mp and, you know, i've just kind of kept going— you know, i've just kind of kept geing enci— you know, i've just kind of kept geing ene, wew— you know, i've just kind of kept going and, you know, i don't eccepr— going and, you know, i don't eccepi peepie— going and, you know, i don't accept people saying there are rneee— accept people saying there are these barriers,— accept people saying there are these barriers, but but there eiee, wew— these barriers, but but there are also, you have been married enci— are also, you have been married ene iivercei— are also, you have been married and divorced four— are also, you have been married and divorced four times as that nwer— and divorced four times as that nwer neve— and divorced four times as that must have kept— and divorced four times as that must have kept you busy . indeed.
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must have kept you busy. indeed. and must have kept you busy. indeed. ani rner-e— must have kept you busy. indeed. and that's probably— must have kept you busy. indeed. and that's probably why i went to and that's probably why i went re peiirice— and that's probably why i went to politics late— and that's probably why i went to politics late in— and that's probably why i went to politics late in life . you're to politics late in life. you're happy— to politics late in life. you're neppw new— to politics late in life. you're neppw e— to politics late in life. you're happy now ? very happy. i mean , happy now? very happy. i mean, it's happy now? very happy. i mean, we e— happy now? very happy. i mean, it's a massive— happy now? very happy. i mean, it's a massive privilege to be an it's a massive privilege to be en iii.— it's a massive privilege to be en iii. anci— it's a massive privilege to be an mp. and, you— it's a massive privilege to be an mp. and, you know, i've never werkei— an mp. and, you know, i've never worked harder.— an mp. and, you know, i've never worked harder. i've— an mp. and, you know, i've never worked harder. i've never had nei— worked harder. i've never had new new— worked harder. i've never had new new ee— worked harder. i've never had had had as much— worked harder. i've never had had had as much on my plate, but egweiiw— had had as much on my plate, but egweiiw ,— had had as much on my plate, but egweiiw , wew— had had as much on my plate, but egweiiw , wew knew,— had had as much on my plate, but equally , you know, who wouldn't equally, you know, who wouldn't wenc— equally, you know, who wouldn't wenr re, — equally, you know, who wouldn't wenr re, wew— equally, you know, who wouldn't want to, you know,— equally, you know, who wouldn't want to, you know, get up early , 90— want to, you know, get up early , ge re— want to, you know, get up early , ge re pei— want to, you know, get up early , ge re pee iere— want to, you know, get up early , go to bed late and have lots of , go to bed late and have lots er neeeie— , go to bed late and have lots er neeeie in— , go to bed late and have lots of hassle in a— , go to bed late and have lots of hassle in a job— , go to bed late and have lots of hassle in a job that that is neeeiveiw— of hassle in a job that that is massively demanding but neeeiveiw— massively demanding but massively satisfying . tir. massively satisfying. you merrienee— massively satisfying. you mentioned hassle . has hassle mentioned hassle. has hassle ever turned into abuse? yes yes. and i do think that had i gene— yes. and i do think that had i gene r..— yes. and i do think that had i gene p. re— yes. and i do think that had i gene in, re pe— yes. and i do think that had i gone in, to be honest, as a wewnger— gone in, to be honest, as a wewnger ege— gone in, to be honest, as a wewnger ege, i— gone in, to be honest, as a younger age, i might not have been— younger age, i might not have been epie— younger age, i might not have been epie re— younger age, i might not have been able to handle that as weir.— been able to handle that as weii. i— been able to handle that as well. i think— been able to handle that as well. i think that my advanced weere— well. i think that my advanced weere i— well. i think that my advanced wee i knew— well. i think that my advanced years, i know who— well. i think that my advanced years, i know who i am, i know wner— years, i know who i am, i know we nw— years, i know who i am, i know we nw iee— years, i know who i am, i know what my values are— years, i know who i am, i know what my values are and whilst in — what my values are and whilst i'm happy— what my values are and whilst in neppw rer— what my values are and whilst i'm happy for people to express epiniene— i'm happy for people to express epiniene enci— i'm happy for people to express opinions and, you— i'm happy for people to express opinions and, you know, all sites— opinions and, you know, all sites ei— opinions and, you know, all sides of the— opinions and, you know, all sides of the spectrum , i'm a bit
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sides of the spectrum, i'm a bit old fashioned— sides of the spectrum, i'm a bit old fashioned in— sides of the spectrum, i'm a bit old fashioned in that i do peiieve— old fashioned in that i do believe that— old fashioned in that i do believe that we need to be reepecriwi— believe that we need to be respectful of _ believe that we need to be respectful of each other and we do respectful of each other and we we need— respectful of each other and we we need re — respectful of each other and we do need to use— respectful of each other and we do need to use appropriate iengwege— do need to use appropriate iengwege. anci— do need to use appropriate language. and so, you know, i reeiiw— language. and so, you know, i reeiiw een-r— language. and so, you know, i really don't like— language. and so, you know, i really don't like the kind of kewpeeri— really don't like the kind of keyboard warriors that you get iner— keyboard warriors that you get rner ieei. — keyboard warriors that you get that feel. it's— keyboard warriors that you get that feel. it's okay because of wew— that feel. it's okay because of wewr peiiricei— that feel. it's okay because of your political party to be very epweive— your political party to be very epweive re. — your political party to be very abusive to. so— your political party to be very abusive to. so if— your political party to be very abusive to. �*7 airiti your political party to be very abusive to. �*7 iriti ati abusive to. so if there are people in their mid 60 seconds watching this thinking you know what i thought it would be, i've always wanted to be an mp , but i always wanted to be an mp, but i thought it might be too late for me. it's not. what advice would you— me. it's not. what advice would wew give— me. it's not. what advice would wew give enemi— e what advice would you give them? absolutely. go for you give them? absolutely. go ier ii.— you give them? absolutely. go ier in se— you give them? absolutely. go ier in se i— you give them? absolutely. go for it. so i always— you give them? absolutely. go for it. so i always say i was on a for it. so i always say i was on everw— for it. so i always say i was on everw ieng— for it. so i always say i was on a very long apprenticeship peiee— a very long apprenticeship peiere i— a very long apprenticeship before i became a member of reriienenw— before i became a member of parliament, 17— before i became a member of parliament, 17 years from when i first— parliament, 17 years from when i first went— parliament, 17 years from when i first went en— parliament, 17 years from when i first went on the— parliament, 17 years from when i first went on the candidate list to first went on the candidate list re pecening— first went on the candidate list to becoming an— first went on the candidate list to becoming an mp. and of cewreelnei— to becoming an mp. and of course,ihad i— to becoming an mp. and of course, had i had to attempts course, i had i had to attempts in ne— course, i had i had to attempts in we rwe— course, i had i had to attempts in we wp— course, i had i had to attempts in the run up to— course, i had i had to attempts in the run up to being elected in the run up to being elected in sicke— in the run up to being elected in stoke-trent— in the run up to being elected in stoke trent central . but in stoke on trent central. but iner— in stoke on trent central. but rner-in— in stoke on trent central. but that-in itself- in stoke on trent central. but that-in itself was- in stoke on trent central. but that in itself was was that journey in itself was was nwgeiw— that journey in itself was was hugely important . and you know, hugely important. and you know, i hugely important. and you know, i spent— hugely important. and you know, i spent in— hugely important. and you know, i epenr is weere— hugely important. and you know, i spent 13 years in— hugely important. and you know, i spent 13 years in local government— i spent 13 years in local government .- i spent 13 years in local government . and i think once government. and i think once wewve— government. and i think once wewve ger— government. and i think once you've got understanding of you've got an understanding of greee— you've got an understanding of greee recre— you've got an understanding of grass roots politics, that helps
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enerneweiw— grass roots politics, that helps enerneweiwle— grass roots politics, that helps enormouslyla-as- enormously in a role as a constituent. _ enormously in a role as a constituent. pp ir enormously in a role as a constituent. it. 37�* enormously in a role as a constituent. it?” enormously in a role as a- constituent. mp let's talk about your constituency. so stoke on trent takes more asylum seekers than most parts of the uk . there than most parts of the uk. there are two hotels in your constituency uses interim accommodation for asylum seekers. has there been any noticeable impact on community relations as a result? i think the challenge— relations as a result? i think the challenge that- relations as a result? i think the challenge that we- 7 i think the challenge that we had i mean, we've always said that sicke— mean, we've always said that sreke en— mean, we've always said that stoke on trent— mean, we've always said that stoke on trent is— mean, we've always said that stoke on trent is a very weicening— stoke on trent is a very welcoming city and has been a iiepereei— welcoming city and has been a dispersal area.— welcoming city and has been a dispersal area. so— welcoming city and has been a dispersal area. so they have weiceneci— dispersal area. so they have welcomed, you— dispersal area. so they have welcomed, you know, more than cneir— welcomed, you know, more than rneir ieii— welcomed, you know, more than their fair share.— welcomed, you know, more than their fair share. to— welcomed, you know, more than their fair share. to be honest, wnen— their fair share. to be honest, wnen wew— their fair share. to be honest, when you look— their fair share. to be honest, when you look at— their fair share. to be honest, when you look at other cities of eewiwn — when you look at other cities of asylum seekers,— when you look at other cities of asylum seekers, the challenge nee— asylum seekers, the challenge nee eeen— asylum seekers, the challenge has been that— asylum seekers, the challenge has been that if— asylum seekers, the challenge has been that if you put people ince— has been that if you put people he e— has been that if you put people he e nerei— has been that if you put people into a hotel without the resources and - into a hotel without the resources and in an area where erreppei— resources and in an area where we're strapped for— resources and in an area where we're strapped for resources to new— we're strapped for resources to neip ine— we're strapped for resources to neip rne peepie— we're strapped for resources to help the people who are already incre— help the people who are already rnere enci— help the people who are already there and struggling, then on, you— there and struggling, then on, wew knew,— there and struggling, then on, you know, you're— there and struggling, then on, you know, you're going to have a ievei— you know, you're going to have a ievei ei— you know, you're going to have a level of discontent— you know, you're going to have a level of discontent ._ you know, you're going to have a level of discontent . but level of discontent. but ieceiiw— level of discontent. but ieceiiw, i— level of discontent. but locally, i have- level of discontent. but locally, i have to say , you locally, i have to say, you knew,— locally, i have to say, you know, organisations have been neve— know, organisations have been
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neve eeen— know, organisations have been have been supportive of the individuals— have been supportive of the individuals and— have been supportive of the individuals and i think we have to differentiate— individuals and i think we have to differentiate between the individuals— to differentiate between the individuals who, you know, have errivei— individuals who, you know, have errivei enci— individuals who, you know, have arrived and we— individuals who, you know, have arrived and we have a lot of ieniiiee— arrived and we have a lot of ieniiiee in— arrived and we have a lot of families in there. _ arrived and we have a lot of families in there. so you know, vew— families in there. so you know, verw eiiiicwir— families in there. so you know, very difficult circumstances . very difficult circumstances. rewr— very difficult circumstances. ewr rne — very difficult circumstances. but the system— very difficult circumstances. but the system which we feel is nee— but the system which we feel is nee eeen— but the system which we feel is has been unfair— but the system which we feel is has been unfair towards the city enci— has been unfair towards the city ene ine— has been unfair towards the city and the council,— has been unfair towards the city and the council, all three of ne— and the council, all three of we sreke— and the council, all three of the stoke mps,— and the council, all three of the stoke mps, all objected to the stoke mps, all objected to we — the stoke mps, all objected to the move. but— the stoke mps, all objected to the move. but the- the stoke mps, all objected to the move. g the move. but the government pressed ahead with the move to make those two hotels in your consortium agency interim accommodation for asylum seekers. what's it like when you object to your own party of government but you still have something done to you which you have expressed to decide not to be done your community? be done to your community? well, i think it's important. vew— well, i think it's important. wew knew,— well, i think it's important. you know, foremost, well, i think it's important.- you know,-foremost, my you know, first and foremost, my newe— you know, first and foremost, my nerrelpwrring— you know, first and foremost, my motto putting people before motto is putting people before peiiiice— motto is putting people before peiiiice. anci— motto is putting people before politics. and-and- politics. and first and foremost,— politics. and first and foremost, are a politics. and first and- foremost,-are a constituency foremost, you are a constituency iii.— foremost, you are a constituency wre-wew— foremost, you are a constituency wre-wew neve- foremost, you are a constituency wre-wew neve re- foremost, you are a constituency mp. you have to stand mp. therefore you have to stand up mp. therefore you have to stand wp ier— mp. therefore you have to stand wp rer, wew— mp. therefore you have to stand wp rer, wew knew,— mp. therefore you have to stand up for, you know, what the peepie— up for, you know, what the peepie in— up for, you know, what the peepie in wew— up for, you know, what the people in your constituency peiieve. — people in your constituency peiieve. se — people in your constituency believe. so you— people in your constituency believe. so you know, i trust i-ve— believe. so you know, i trust i've consistently— believe. so you know, i trust i've consistently done that , but i've consistently done that, but i've consistently done that, but r en— i've consistently done that, but
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r en eiecrei— i've consistently done that, but i am elected as— i've consistently done that, but i am elected as a— i've consistently done that, but i am elected as a conservative mp— i am elected as a conservative iii enci— i am elected as a conservative we end wew— i am elected as a conservative mp and you know,— i am elected as a conservative mp and you know, so i will. i viii— mp and you know, so i will. i wiii i— mp and you know, so i will. i wiii i win— mp and you know, so i will. i will i will back— mp and you know, so i will. i will i will back the government on our manifesto— will i will back the government on our manifesto promises ecceeieneiiw— on our manifesto promises occasionally you get legislation wnere— occasionally you get legislation wnere wew— occasionally you get legislation wnere wew ge— occasionally you get legislation wnere wew ge ,— occasionally you get legislation wnere wew ge , i— occasionally you get legislation where you go , i wouldn't have where you go, i wouldn't have pnreeei— where you go, i wouldn't have pnreeei ir— where you go, i wouldn't have phrased it like— where you go, i wouldn't have phrased it like that or , you phrased it like that or, you knew,— phrased it like that or, you knew, ire— phrased it like that or, you know, it's not— phrased it like that or, you know, it's not quite what i wewii— know, it's not quite what i wewici neve— know, it's not quite what i would have liked to have seen or you— would have liked to have seen or wew een-r— would have liked to have seen or wew een-r ger— would have liked to have seen or you don't get legislation where you don't get legislation where wew reei— you don't get legislation where wew ieei ire— you don't get legislation where you feel it's needed. so i've cenpeignei— you feel it's needed. so i've cenpeignee e— you feel it's needed. so i've campaigned a lot on obesity and the campaigned a lot on obesity and we werienei— campaigned a lot on obesity and the national food— campaigned a lot on obesity and the national food strategy and you the national food strategy and wew wenc— the national food strategy and wew wenr ine— the national food strategy and you want the government to do en inep— you want the government to do more on that, don't you? tir. more on that, don't you? you think— more on that, don't you? you think its— more on that, don't you? you think its peri— more on that, don't you? you think it's part of— more on that, don't you? you think it's part of the levelling up agenda, which could be made more of exactly . yeah. but the more of exactly. yeah. but the key more of exactly. yeah. but the kew ining— more of exactly. yeah. but the kew ining ie— more of exactly. yeah. but the key thing is that— more of exactly. yeah. but the key thing is that that- more of exactly. yeah. but the key thing is that that i- iirirti exec“; yeah. but the key thing is that that i frame it key thing is that that i frame ir in— key thing is that that i frame it in e— key thing is that that i frame ir in e wew— key thing is that that i frame it in a way that— key thing is that that i frame it in a way that that isn't anti—government. it's basically encewreging— anti—government. it's basically encouraging the— anti—government. it's basically encouraging the government to ieek— encouraging the government to ieek egein— encouraging the government to ieek egein er— encouraging the government to look again at the— encouraging the government to look again at the decision that i look again at the decision that i peiieve— look again at the decision that i believe isn't— look again at the decision that i believe isn't right . and i believe isn't right. and rner-e— i believe isn't right. and rner-e ine— i believe isn't right. and that's the difference, isn't it, epewr— that's the difference, isn't it, epewr new— that's the difference, isn't it, about how you— that's the difference, isn't it, about how you go about politics? i about how you go about politics? i ww— about how you go about politics? i rrw re— about how you go about politics? i rrw re neke— about how you go about politics? irrw re neke nw— about how you go about politics? i try to make my point in a sort of conciliatory— i try to make my point in a sort of conciliatory way— i try to make my point in a sort of conciliatory way rather than enewring — of conciliatory way rather than shouting from _ of conciliatory way rather than shouting from the rooftops in a negerive— shouting from the rooftops in a negeiive wayv — shouting from the rooftops in a negeiive wew, wew— shouting from the rooftops in a negative way, you aren't seeking re—ecieprien— negative way, you aren't seeking re—ecieprien ee— negative way, you aren't seeking re—adoption as the _ negative way, you aren't seeking re—adoption as the conservative ceniiiere. — re—adoption as the conservative candidate. it's— re—adoption as the conservative
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candidate. e irg candidate. it's something that all mps have to do . they are all mps have to do. they are selected by local members, whichever party they stand for. why not so stoke on trent central? and i must say i epeeiwreiw— central? and i must say i absolutely love- cri 7 and i must say i absolutely love stoke on trent cenrrei. — absolutely love stoke on trent cenrrei. i— absolutely love stoke on trent central. i love— absolutely love stoke on trent central. i love being a constituency- central. i love being a constituency mp. the boundary cnengee— constituency mp. the boundary cnengee ee— constituency mp. the boundary changes mean that it will look inferenc— changes mean that it will look different after— changes mean that it will look different after the next general eiecrien— different after the next general eiecrien .— different after the next general eiecrien . in— different after the next general election . in an— different after the next general election . in an extra 19,000 election. in an extra 19,000 veree— election. in an extra 19,000 veree wne— election. in an extra 19,000 veree wne ,— election. in an extra 19,000 voters who , you _ election. in an extra 19,000 voters who , you know, didn't voters who, you know, didn't knew— voters who, you know, didn't knew me— voters who, you know, didn't knew in— voters who, you know, didn't know me. i'm not- voters who, you know, didn't know me. i'm not their their mp. anci— know me. i'm not their their mp. ani ee— know me. i'm not their their mp. ani ee incre— know me. i'm not their their mp. and so there are— know me. i'm not their their mp. and so there are a— know me. i'm not their their mp. and so there are a number of cnengee.— and so there are a number of cnengee. rewr— and so there are a number of changes. but anybody that ewggeere— changes. but anybody that suggests that— changes. but anybody that suggests that the decision was neeei— suggests that the decision was peeei en— suggests that the decision was based on being— suggests that the decision was based on being offered a safe seer— based on being offered a safe see in— based on being offered a safe see in ne— based on being offered a safe seat in the south— based on being offered a safe seat in the south or something. i seat in the south or something. i ee— seat in the south or something. i rner-e— seat in the south or something. i mean that's just— seat in the south or something. i mean that's just ridiculous . i mean that's just ridiculous. i-ve— i mean that's just ridiculous. i've seen that— i mean that's just ridiculous. i've seen that written - i mean that's just ridiculous. i've seen that written about you people saying actually she just wants scarper off a safe wants to scarper off to a safe seat. well, a nonsense. and seat. well, it's a nonsense. and i seat. well, it's a nonsense. and i neve— seat. well, it's a nonsense. and i neve re— seat. well, it's a nonsense. and i neve re say— well, it's a nonsense. and i have to say, anybody who's eeenie-eit- i have to say, anybody who's seen-media in- i have to say, anybody who's seen media in the i have to say, anybody who's- seen-media in the last seen my social media in the last inree— seen my social media in the last twee-knew— seen my social media in the last three-know that- three years will know that i spent— three years will know that i spent-weekend - three years will know that i spent weekend and every spent every weekend and every neiiiew— spent every weekend and every neiiiew enci— spent every weekend and every holiday and at— spent every weekend and every holiday and at every recess in ne— holiday and at every recess in the constituency— holiday and at every recess in the constituency ._ holiday and at every recess in the constituency . it's my home, the constituency. it's my home, you— the constituency. it's my home, wew knew,— the constituency. it's my home, wew knew, se— the constituency. it's my home, wew knew, se ,— the constituency. it's my home, you know, so , you— the constituency. it's my home, you know, so , you know, that's you know, so, you know, that's iwer— you know, so, you know, that's iwer e— you know, so, you know, that's just a nonsense—
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you know, so, you know, that's just a nonsense . _ you know, so, you know, that's just a nonsense . i gi gi just a nonsense. the highlight for you , you might have only for you, you might have only been an mp for four years by the time of the next election. the highlight. so the highlight is neking— highlight. so the highlight is neking e— highlight. so the highlight is neking e reei— i igi igi so the highlight is making a real difference to peepie-e— making a real difference to people's lives.— making a real difference to people's lives. and my campaign on people's lives. and my campaign en pwrren— people's lives. and my campaign on button battery— people's lives. and my campaign on button battery safety with a wee-e— on button battery safety with a iee-e wee-e— on button battery safety with a lee's lee's tell— on button battery safety with a lee's lee's tell us— on button battery safety with a lee's lee's tell us about the pwrren— lee's lee's tell us about the button battery— lee's lee's tell us about the button battery campaign. e button battery campaign. it's a it's button battery campaign. it's a is e— button battery campaign. it's a is e reeiiw— button battery campaign. it's a it's a really noble— button battery campaign. it's a it's a really noble campaign. it is a really important campaign. in fact, i stood down from a gevernnenr— in fact, i stood down from a government role _ in fact, i stood down from a government role in order to iepiw— government role in order to lobby government on this. and we've made great— lobby government on this. and we've made great progress. so werper— we've made great progress. so werper reei— we've made great progress. so harper leaf and— we've made great progress. so harper leaf and thorpe, in my cenerirwencw— harper leaf and thorpe, in my cenerirwencw ,— harper leaf and thorpe, in my constituency , a— harper leaf and thorpe, in my constituency , a little toddler constituency, a little toddler diei— constituency, a little toddler iiei ener— constituency, a little toddler died after swallowing a button perrerw— died after swallowing a button perrerw enci— died after swallowing a button perrerw end i— died after swallowing a button battery and i promised her mare..— battery and i promised her mother, stacy— battery and i promised her mother, stacy and it's a cenpeign— mother, stacy and it's a campaign with the local newepeper— campaign with the local newspaper as- campaign with the local newspaper as well that we would neke— newspaper as well that we would make sure that— newspaper as well that we would make sure that that button perreriee— make sure that that button batteries there's more safety eewin— batteries there's more safety around button— batteries there's more safety around button and these are reuni— around button and these are iewnci in— around button and these are found in children toys tv reneeer— found in children toys tv remotes they're in all of our nee — remotes they're in all of our homes. exactly. _ remotes they're in all of our homes. aire�*thg aire�*thg remotes they're in all of our homes. aire�*thg xiiieeg so homes. exactly. exactly so reieing— homes. exactly. exactly so raising awareness- homes. aire�*thg xiiieeg so raising awareness and also the eeierw— raising awareness and also the safety standards— raising awareness and also the safety standards for products wirn — safety standards for products wirn pwrren — safety standards for products with button batteries has been the with button batteries has been rne kew— with button batteries has been the key campaign . 'ir:
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the key campaign. and you have another campaign ongoing as well. banker. dave, tell me about that. yes. so i've always been— about that. yes. so i've always been keen— about that. yes. so i've always been keen re— about that. yes. so i've always been keen to see— about that. yes. so i've always been keen to see some- yes. so i've always been keen to see some form of cennwnirw— been keen to see some form of community banking in stoke on new— community banking in stoke on trent because— community banking in stoke on trent because there are lots of peepie,— trent because there are lots of peepie, eeciiw— trent because there are lots of peepie, eeeiw ,— trent because there are lots of people, sadly , who in order to people, sadly, who in order to get— people, sadly, who in order to get e— people, sadly, who in order to get e vew— people, sadly, who in order to get a very small— people, sadly, who in order to get a very small amount of money as a micro loan, might have to go as a micro loan, might have to ge re— as a micro loan, might have to ge re keen— as a micro loan, might have to go to loan sharks.— as a micro loan, might have to go to loan sharks. there are eiee— go to loan sharks. there are eiee eneii— go to loan sharks. there are also small start— go to loan sharks. there are also small start up businesses iner— also small start up businesses rner cen-r— also small start up businesses rner cen-r ger— also small start up businesses that can't get funding from conventional— that can't get funding from conventional high street banks. anci— conventional high street banks. and i— conventional high street banks. and if we— conventional high street banks. and if we nei— conventional high street banks. and if we had a— conventional high street banks. and if we had a loans and eevinge— and if we had a loans and savings bank,— and if we had a loans and savings bank, which is what dave epenei— savings bank, which is what dave epenei in— savings bank, which is what dave opened in burnley_ savings bank, which is what dave opened in burnley to help these peepie,— opened in burnley to help these peepie, inen— opened in burnley to help these people, then that— opened in burnley to help these people, then that would be would neke— people, then that would be would make more difference to kind of ievei— make more difference to kind of ievei wp— make more difference to kind of ievei wp ew— make more difference to kind of level up our community than any infrastructure— level up our community than any infrastructure project. it's epewr— infrastructure project. it's about helping _ infrastructure project. it's about helping lots and lots of peepie— about helping lots and lots of peepie witn— about helping lots and lots of peepie wirn e— about helping lots and lots of people with a small amount, but eiee— people with a small amount, but eiee eiiewing— people with a small amount, but also allowing the— people with a small amount, but also allowing the community to neip— also allowing the community to neip eecn— also allowing the community to help each other— also allowing the community to help each other ._ also allowing the community to help each other . and that's the help each other. and that's the key help each other. and that's the kew wing.— help each other. and that's the kew ining. vew— help each other. and that's the key thing. you know, community paying— key thing. you know, community pewing in— key thing. you know, community paying in community taking out. but paying in community taking out. put nwc— paying in community taking out. put in wew— paying in community taking out. but but you know,— paying in community taking out. but but you know, it's that cennecien— but but you know, it's that connection which which i'm reeiiw— connection which which i'm really reeiiw— connection which which i'm really, really keen on. joe sixteen— really, really keen on. joe gideon can't— really, really keen on. joe gideon can't believe you're you're not seeking re adoption
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at the next election. i also really cannot believe you're 73. i look half as good as, as you at 70. then we'll all be winning. it's really nice to meet you, joe. gideon. thank you . thanks for watching. join me again next sunday at six for gloria meets ella whelan . hello gloria meets ella whelan. hello there. i'm craig snell. here is wew— there. i'm craig snell. here is wewr iereer— there. i'm craig snell. here is your latest forecast— airiti i'm craig snell. here is your latest forecast from the wer— your latest forecast from the met office. — your latest forecast from the met office. well, as we go inrewgn— met office. well, as we go inrewgn ine— met office. well, as we go through the week ahead, for most of through the week ahead, for most er we— through the week ahead, for most er ir— through the week ahead, for most of us, it should— through the week ahead, for most of us, it should be— through the week ahead, for most of us, it should be largely dry enci— of us, it should be largely dry ene eerwee.— of us, it should be largely dry and settled. always the best of the and settled. always the best of inc—weweverl and settled. always the best of the _ however, ini the temperatures. however, in the temperatures. however, in rne-nere-e- the temperatures. however, in the - here's the - the west. so here's the eirwerien— the west. so here's the situation lthe - the west. so here's the situation the moment. situation at the moment. we've got situation at the moment. we've get-pressure— situation at the moment. we've got pressure beginning got high pressure beginning to wit— got high pressure beginning to pwiii-rne— got high pressure beginning to build the country. build in across the country. ineee— build in across the country. these -weather- build in across the country. these weather fronts, these two weather fronts, however, - still - these two weather fronts, however, - still i a l these two weather fronts,- however, - still i a focus however, will still be a focus of however, will still be a focus er ee— however, will still be a focus of some cloud— however, will still be a focus of some cloud some outbreaks of some cloud and some outbreaks of some cloud and some outbreaks ei-ee— of some cloud and some outbreaks ei-eeige— of some cloud and some outbreaks ei-eeige-weniew- of some cloud and some outbreaks ei-eeige-weniew -- of rain as we go into monday. rewr— of rain as we go into monday. iew-peck— of rain as we go into monday. ewr-peck re- of rain as we go into monday. but-back to the- of rain as we go into monday. but back to the rest of but looking back to the rest of swniew— but looking back to the rest of sunday wew— but looking back to the rest of sunday wew ce— but looking back to the rest of sunday, you can see actually eriii— sunday, you can see actually eriii e— sunday, you can see actually eriii e ier— sunday, you can see actually still a lot of— sunday, you can see actually still a lot of cloud around. eeei— still a lot of cloud around. eeei ei— still a lot of cloud around. eeei er enw— still a lot of cloud around. best of any late- still a lot of cloud around. best of any late brightness down reverie— best of any late brightness down rewerie ine— best of any late brightness down towards the southeast and east angiie— towards the southeast and east angie-ier— towards the southeast and east anglia,-far north- towards the southeast and east anglia, far north for anglia, the far north for scerienci.— anglia, the far north for scotland. also seeing clear scotland. also seeing some clear skies— scotland. also seeing some clear skies overnight.— scotland. also seeing some clear skies overnight. so— scotland. also seeing some clear skies overnight. so here it nignr— skies overnight. so here it
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might-locally- skies overnight. so here it. might-locally-but might turn locally chilly, but eieewnere,— might turn locally chilly, but elsewhere, _ not| elsewhere, temperatures not ieiiing— elsewhere, temperatures not reiiing nwcn— elsewhere, temperatures not falling much lower than 7 or 8 degrees— falling much lower than 7 or 8 degrees pwr— falling much lower than 7 or 8 degrees, but it— falling much lower than 7 or 8 degrees, but it will be quite grey— degrees, but it will be quite grew enci— degrees, but it will be quite grew ene nwrkw— degrees, but it will be quite grey and murky in places, eepecieiiw— grey and murky in places, especially across any high grewnci— especially across any high grewnci .— especially across any high grewnci . se— especially across any high ground . so just be a bit wary of ground. so just be a bit wary of iner— ground. so just be a bit wary of net i— ground. so just be a bit wary of net i wew— ground. so just be a bit wary of that if you travelling that if you are travelling evernignr. — that if you are travelling overnight. so— that if you are travelling overnight. so a grey start for a lot overnight. so a grey start for a er ei— overnight. so a grey start for a er er ine— overnight. so a grey start for a lot of the country— overnight. so a grey start for a lot of the country as we start ine— lot of the country as we start rne new— lot of the country as we start the new working— lot of the country as we start the new working week. still the risk— the new working week. still the riekleene— the new working week. still the risklsome light— the new working week. still the risk some light outbreaks of risk of some light outbreaks of rein— risk of some light outbreaks of enci— risk of some light outbreaks of rain and drizzle— risk of some light outbreaks of rain and drizzle too. but there wiri— rain and drizzle too. but there wiii pe— rain and drizzle too. but there wiii pe ee— rain and drizzle too. but there will be some brighter skies eeveieping— will be some brighter skies. developing-northern developing in places. northern ireienci— developing in places. northern ireienci-ier— developing in places. northern ireland,-far north- developing in places. northern ireland, far north of ireland, the far north of scerieni— ireland, the far north of scotland eventually into scotland and eventually into reei— scotland and eventually into rest-enci— scotland and eventually into. east-and-south—east. east anglia and the south—east. as east anglia and the south—east. aeieppreecn— east anglia and the south—east. as approach lunchtime . so in as we approach lunchtime. so in the as we approach lunchtime. so in inc-reeiing— as we approach lunchtime. so in the feeling pleasantly the sunshine, feeling pleasantly wernlrne— the sunshine, feeling pleasantly warm-the time— the sunshine, feeling pleasantly warm.the time of— the sunshine, feeling pleasantly warm the time of year highs warm for the time of year highs reecning— warm for the time of year highs reecningler— warm for the time of year highs reaching.or19_ warm for the time of year highs reaching or 19 degrees. but reaching 18 or 19 degrees. but eieewnere— reaching 18 or 19 degrees. but elsewhere around for elsewhere for around par for rnie— elsewhere for around par for we cine— elsewhere for around par for we rine ei— elsewhere for around par for this time of year— elsewhere for around par for this time of year into the evening,— this time of year into the evening, we— this time of year into the evening, we may well see some iere— evening, we may well see some iere ewnenine— evening, we may well see some late sunshine developing across the late sunshine developing across rne iiiiienie— late sunshine developing across the midlands central southern ingieni. — the midlands central southern ingieni. nwr— the midlands central southern england. but then that quickly geis— england. but then that quickly geie repiececi— england. but then that quickly geie repiececi by— england. but then that quickly gets replaced by further cloud rne — gets replaced by further cloud across the country as we go into the across the country as we go into rne eneii— across the country as we go into the small hours— across the country as we go into the small hours of— across the country as we go into the small hours of tuesday. so egein— the small hours of tuesday. so egein ,— the small hours of tuesday. so egein , wnier— the small hours of tuesday. so again , under the— the small hours of tuesday. so again , under the cloud, no real again, under the cloud, no real prepiene— again, under the cloud, no real prepiene witn— again, under the cloud, no real problems with the— again, under the cloud, no real problems with the temperatures not problems with the temperatures net—iewer- problems with the temperatures not—lower than- not falling much lower than eewin— not falling much lower than eewni 7— not falling much lower than eewni i er— not falling much lower than around 7 or 8— not falling much lower than around 7 or 8 degrees across the cewnrrw— around 7 or 8 degrees across the cewnrrw .— around 7 or 8 degrees across the cewnrrw . se— around 7 or 8 degrees across the cewnrrw . se en— around 7 or 8 degrees across the country . so on tuesday , we will country. so on tuesday, we will
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cnen— country. so on tuesday, we will rnen ecen— country. so on tuesday, we will rnen ererr re— country. so on tuesday, we will then start to see— country. so on tuesday, we will then start to see some clearer ekiee— then start to see some clearer ekiee eve— then start to see some clearer skies move right— then start to see some clearer skies move right across the cewnrrw— skies move right across the cewnrrw ee— skies move right across the cewnrrw ee we— skies move right across the country as we go through the course of the— country as we go through the course of the day. so it could be e— course of the day. so it could be e pir— course of the day. so it could be e pir ei— course of the day. so it could be e pir er e— course of the day. so it could be a bit of a grey,— course of the day. so it could be a bit of a grey, slow start in pieces— be a bit of a grey, slow start in places, but— be a bit of a grey, slow start in places, but sunshine will be on in places, but sunshine will be en ine— in places, but sunshine will be en rne wew— in places, but sunshine will be on the way across— in places, but sunshine will be on the way across most of the cewnrrw. — on the way across most of the cewnrrw. we— on the way across most of the cewnrrw. we cie— on the way across most of the country. we do start to pick up a country. we do start to pick up e pir— country. we do start to pick up e pir ei— country. we do start to pick up e pir er e— country. we do start to pick up a bit of a easterly— country. we do start to pick up a bit of a easterly breeze, however, feeling a bit of a easterly breeze,- however,.feeling-chilly however, so feeling quite chilly eieng—iwrl along some eastern coast but iwnner— along some eastern coast but further-certainly- further inland, certainly ieeiing— further inland, certainly feeling pleasantly warm in the ewneinne— feeling pleasantly warm in the sunshine. wednesday thursday reneining— remaining very similar across the remaining very similar across rne-.— remaining very similar across rne-. en— remaining very similar across rne-. en werk- remaining very similar across the . on mark dolan the country. on mark dolan ienignr— the country. on mark dolan ienignr wigei— the country. on mark dolan tonight nigel biggar , top tonight nigel biggar, top niererien— tonight nigel biggar, top historian and— tonight nigel biggar, top historian and author of a brand peek— historian and author of a brand new book which— historian and author of a brand new book which pushes back on the demonisation_ new book which pushes back on the demonisation of the british empire— the demonisation of the british inpire . — the demonisation of the british inpire . weve— the demonisation of the british empire . we've got- the demonisation of the british empire . grir itra empire. we've got political punditry from annunziata rees—mogg, emma burnell and former tory mp neil parish . can former tory mp neil parish. can reform uk influenced the next election? i'll be asking tonight's newsmaker, ann widdecombe . plus lady colin widdecombe. plus lady colin campbell on the royals. and it might take at ten. i'll be deaung might take at ten. i'll be dealing with the overpaid stars at the bbc . dealing with the overpaid stars at the bbc. it's time dealing with the overpaid stars at the bbc . it's time they took at the bbc. it's time they took at the bbc. it's time they took a pay at the bbc. it's time they took a pay cut like the rest of us. we're live from. nine i'm andrew
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