so do you think anti monarchists republicans are underrepresented in in the media in our role coverage .7 of course we've got coverage? of course we've got the coronation coming up but the campaign group republic have been saying that they are underrepresent rented that their views aren't featured enough in the media. do you agree or are you sick of hearing from them and you go private you and should you go private if you can it? i'm talking about can afford it? i'm talking about the more more of us are the more and more of us are apparently taking up private gp appointments because we can't

get one on the nhs . do you think get one on the nhs. do you think if you're rich enough, if you can it, you should do it? can afford it, you should do it? should we encourage people to go private is that unfair? if private or is that unfair? if you've your taxes your you've paid your taxes all your life our landlords are hard life and our landlords are hard done by, do we demonise them too much? apparently half a million buy to let landlords are set to leave the market altogether in the next five years. should something be done to keep them? is there too much bureaucracy, red tape, too much tax? what do you think? and are you like me a little bit fed up of remakes? it seems that every single new film or new theatre production is actually a copy of something from the past. should we just create new stories? that's an idea . we've got all of that to idea. we've got all of that to come tonight with. my wonderful panel on dewbs& co this evening with you until seven with me, emily carver. but first, let's get the latest news headlines . get the latest news headlines. emily, thank you and good

evening. — emily, thank you and good evening. this— emily, thank you and good evening. this is- emily, thank you and good evening. this is the latest from the ea— evening. this is the latest from the gb news— evening. this is the latest from the gb news room. rishi sunak is under— the gb news room. rishi sunak is under investigation— the gb news room. rishi sunak is under investigation by parliament's ethics watchdog over a possible— parliament's ethics watchdog over a possible failure to declare— over a possible failure to declare an— over a possible failure to declare an interest . downing declare an interest. downing street— declare an interest. downing street says— declare an interest. downing street says the _ declare an interest. downing street says the inquiry is over deeme— street says the inquiry is over claims he— street says the inquiry is over claims he failed— street says the inquiry is over claims he failed to tell mps his wife— claims he failed to tell mps his we might— claims he failed to tell mps his wife might benefit from a major measure announced in last meme-e— measure announced in last month's budget. she holds shares in kem— month's budget. she holds shares in kore wee.— month's budget. she holds shares in kore mee- a— month's budget. she holds shares in koru kids. a child care agency— in koru kids. a child care agency likew— in koru kids. a child care agency likely to gain financially- agency likely to gain financially from a drive to recruit— financially from a drive to recruit more— financially from a drive to recruit more childminders. number— recruit more childminders. number ten— recruit more childminders. number ten says the prime minister— number ten says the prime minister will— number ten says the prime minister will clarify how it was declared— minister will clarify how it was declared ee— minister will clarify how it was declared as a— minister will clarify how it was declared as a ministerial interest— declared as a ministerial interest rather- declared as a ministerial interest rather than to the commone— interest rather than to the commons . meanwhile, mr sunak has commons. meanwhile, mr sunak has accepted— commons. meanwhile, mr sunak has accepted the — commons. meanwhile, mr sunak has accepted the ht— commons. meanwhile, mr sunak has accepted the uk doesn't have enough— accepted the uk doesn't have enough teachers— accepted the uk doesn't have enough teachers to deliver on his ambition— enough teachers to deliver on his ambition to— enough teachers to deliver on his ambition to improve children's— his ambition to improve children's numeracy skills. he eate— children's numeracy skills. he says eh— children's numeracy skills. he eeye an ant — children's numeracy skills. he says an anti maths mindset is eeetthg— says an anti maths mindset is eeethe the— says an anti maths mindset is costing the uk— says an anti maths mindset is costing the uk economy tens of buttons— costing the uk economy tens of httttehe et— costing the uk economy tens of billions of pounds— costing the uk economy tens of billions of pounds every year ent— billions of pounds every year the wante— billions of pounds every year and wants to— billions of pounds every year and wants to ensure the subject is and wants to ensure the subject he etuttet— and wants to ensure the subject he etuttet hy— and wants to ensure the subject is studied by all— and wants to ensure the subject is studied by all students in theteht— is studied by all students in thgteht uh— is studied by all students in thgteht up te— is studied by all students in england up to the age of 18. the uk te— england up to the age of 18. the uk he he— england up to the age of 18. the uk he et— england up to the age of 18. the uk is one of the— england up to the age of 18. the uk is one of the least numerate

eeuhtthee— uk is one of the least numerate eeuhtthee h— uk is one of the least numerate countries in the— uk is one of the least numerate countries in the developed weht. — countries in the developed world. more— countries in the developed world. more than- countries in the developed world. m3111 s?" 8 countries in the developed world. m6111 s?" 8 cc hit" world. more than 8 million adults have numeracy skills below those expected of a nine year old and around a third of our young people don't pass maths, gcse . we make jokes about maths, gcse. we make jokes about not being able to do maths. it's socially acceptable , shall we socially acceptable, shall we say, things like , oh, maths, say, things like, oh, maths, i can't do that. it's not for me. and everyone laughs but we'd never make a joke like that about not being able to read . about not being able to read. well, some breaking news this hour. nhs england has said nearly— hour. nhs england has said nearly 200,000— ” nhs england has said nearly 200,000 hospital appointments- nearly 200,000 hospital appointments and procedures had to be— appointments and procedures had to be rescheduled— appointments and procedures had to be rescheduled due to the strike— to be rescheduled due to the strike by— to be rescheduled due to the strike by junior— to be rescheduled due to the strike by junior doctors this month. — strike by junior doctors this month. it— strike by junior doctors this month. it includes people who waning— month. it includes people who were waiting for— month. it includes people who were waiting for operations and other— were waiting for operations and other treatments,— were waiting for operations and other treatments, as well as scans and follow— other treatments, as well as scans and follow up appointments. tens of thousands of appointments. tens of thousands or weerker— appointments. tens of thousands of workers stage _ appointments. tens of thousands of workers stage a— appointments. tens of thousands of workers stage a 96 hour errrke— of workers stage a 96 hour errrke re— of workers stage a 96 hour errrke in e— of workers stage a 96 hour strike in a dispute over pay kerweerr— strike in a dispute over pay between april— strike in a dispute over pay between april the 11th and 15th. it between april the iith and 15th. rr eemee— between april the 11th and 15th. rr ee— between april the iith and 15th. it comes as the— between april the 11th and 15th. it comes as the prime minister eemrrree— it comes as the prime minister eemrrree kr— it comes as the prime minister admitted it will— it comes as the prime minister admitted it will be a challenge to admitted it will be a challenge re eur— admitted it will be a challenge re err mrs— admitted it will be a challenge to cut nhs waiting times because of rurrrrer— to cut nhs waiting times because of further industrial action , of further industrial action, wrrke— of further industrial action, we arse— of further industrial action, while also adding that he remains hopeful wait times can

ukrrmereky— remains hopeful wait times can ukrrmerekk ke— remains hopeful wait times can ultimately be cut— remains hopeful wait times can ultimately be cut ._ remains hopeful wait times can ultimately be cut . hillary ultimately be cut. hillary curren— ultimately be cut. hillary clinton has— ultimately be cut. hillary clinton has urged politicians in kerrrrerrr— clinton has urged politicians in northern ireland— clinton has urged politicians in northern ireland to return to power— northern ireland to return to power sharing— northern ireland to return to power errerrne ,— northern ireland to return to power sharing , saying the power sharing, saying the windsor— power sharing, saying the windsor framework provides a park— windsor framework provides a park rerwere. — windsor framework provides a path forward. she was speaking at path forward. she was speaking er rhe— path forward. she was speaking er rrre eperrre— path forward. she was speaking at the opening of— path forward. she was speaking at the opening of a three day conference at— at the opening of a three day conference at queen's university in eekreer— conference at queen's university in eekreer re— conference at queen's university in belfast to mark— conference at queen's university in belfast to mark the 25 years of in belfast to mark the 25 years or re— in belfast to mark the 25 years or re eeee— in belfast to mark the 25 years of the good friday— in belfast to mark the 25 years of the good friday agreement. ms curren— of the good friday agreement. ms clinton praised— of the good friday agreement. ms clinton praised the— of the good friday agreement. ms clinton praised the deal as a erre— clinton praised the deal as a rrue rrrumpk— clinton praised the deal as a true triumph of— clinton praised the deal as a true triumph of diplomacy arnie, but true triumph of diplomacy arnie, bur says— true triumph of diplomacy arnie, err eeye peace— true triumph of diplomacy arnie, but says peace and prosperity are incomplete _ but says peace and prosperity are incomplete without a functioning— are incomplete without a functioning power sharing gererrrmerr— functioning power sharing government in stormont, she . you government in stormont, she. you knew,— government in stormont, she. you knew, we— government in stormont, she. you knew, we er— government in stormont, she. you knew, we er a— government in stormont, she. you know, we are at a standstill week— know, we are at a standstill eeek wire— know, we are at a standstill deal with the _ know, we are at a standstill deal with the northern ireland as eeeemtw— deal with the northern ireland as assembly no— deal with the northern ireland as assembly no longer functioning— as assembly no longer functioning . as assembly no longer- functioning . but the windsor functioning. but the windsor agreement provides a path forward, not just for convening but for positioning . northern but for positioning. northern ireland as an economic hub for global trade and investment through privileged access to the uk and all of its trading

partners . more than 5000 people partners. more than 5000 people have crossed the english channel in small boats this year , gb in small boats this year, gb news can reveal around 120 people have arrived today with three small boats intercepted by uk authorities. it's after a surge tw— uk authorities. it's after a surge in small— uk authorities. it's after a surge in small boat- e it's after a surge in small boat crossings as errmrwek— surge in small boat crossings as errrrrwek peepke— surge in small boat crossings as criminal people smuggling gangs take advantage— criminal people smuggling gangs take advantage of— criminal people smuggling gangs take advantage of better weather conditions— take advantage of better weather conditions .— take advantage of better weather conditions . the— take advantage of better weather conditions . the launch of elon conditions. the launch of elon week-e— conditions. the launch of elon musk's starship_ conditions. the launch of elon musk's starship the world's most pewerfwk— musk's starship the world's most powerful rocket,— musk's starship the world's most powerful rocket, has been postponed — powerful rocket, has been postponed w— powerful rocket, has been postponed. it was due to take off from — postponed. it was due to take off from spacex's_ postponed. it was due to take off from spacex's starbase reentry— off from spacex's starbase reerkrw tw— off from spacex's starbase facility in texas— off from spacex's starbase facility in texas earlier, but eekkee— facility in texas earlier, but was called off— facility in texas earlier, but was called off at the last minute— was called off at the last minute because of a technical issue— minute because of a technical er— minute because of a technical or e— minute because of a technical issue of a frozen— minute because of a technical issue of a frozen pressure valve . rte— issue of a frozen pressure valve . the team — issue of a frozen pressure valve . the team continue with a dress rerreereek— . the team continue with a dress rehearsal instead,— . the team continue with a dress rehearsal instead, and musk says reek-u— rehearsal instead, and musk says thew-u retry— rehearsal instead, and musk says thew-u rerw tw— rehearsal instead, and musk says thew-u rerw tr e— rehearsal instead, and musk says they'll retry in a few days . they'll retry in a few days. wee— they'll retry in a few days. were prayed— they'll retry in a few days. he'd played down the chances of success, admitting— he'd played down the chances of success, admitting earlier erwrrrwe— success, admitting earlier anything that— success, admitting earlier anything that doesn't result in the destruction— anything that doesn't result in the destruction of the launch pad— the destruction of the launch pee weeke— the destruction of the launch part were re— the destruction of the launch pad would be a— the destruction of the launch pad would be a win. the destruction of the launch pad would be a win . a british pad would be a win. a british kweerew— pad would be a win. a british russian critic— pad would be a win. a british russian critic of— pad would be a win. a british russian critic of the kremlin tree— russian critic of the kremlin has been— russian critic of the kremlin has been sentenced to 25 years in has been sentenced to 25 years we terr— has been sentenced to 25 years in ten tw— has been sentenced to 25 years in jail in russia— has been sentenced to 25 years

in jail in russia for— has been sentenced to 25 years in jail in russia for speaking eur— in jail in russia for speaking out aberr— in jail in russia for speaking out about the _ in jail in russia for speaking out about the war in ukraine. vkeermrr— out about the war in ukraine. vladimir kara—murza has been terre— vladimir kara—murza has been found ewrkw— vladimir kara—murza has been found ewrkrw er— vladimir kara—murza has been found guilty of treason after epreeerrre— found guilty of treason after spreading false— found guilty of treason after spreading false information aberr— spreading false information about we— spreading false information about the russian army . he about the russian army. he terres— about the russian army. he terree rte— about the russian army. he denies the allegations made against— denies the allegations made egerwer wre- — denies the allegations made against him. it's— denies the allegations made against him. it's one of the harshest— against him. it's one of the harshest sentences of its kind stree— harshest sentences of its kind rte— harshest sentences of its kind since the russian— harshest sentences of its kind since the russian invasion . a since the russian invasion. a rrewerr— since the russian invasion. a rrewerr eewrr— since the russian invasion. a french court has— since the russian invasion. a french court has cleared european— french court has cleared european planemaker airbus and air european planemaker airbus and ar rrewee— european planemaker airbus and ar rrewee er— european planemaker airbus and air france of involuntary manslaughter- air france of involuntary manslaughter for nearly 14 years after— manslaughter for nearly 14 years after a— manslaughter for nearly 14 years after a prere— manslaughter for nearly 14 years after a plane travelling from week— after a plane travelling from erezrk re — after a plane travelling from brazil to france _ after a plane travelling from brazil to france crashed into rte— brazil to france crashed into the atlantic— brazil to france crashed into the atlantic ocean. the trial was france's first— the atlantic ocean. the trial was france's first ever for corporate — was france's first ever for corporate manslaughter , with corporate manslaughter, with tert— corporate manslaughter, with were firme— corporate manslaughter, with both firms pleading not guilty , both firms pleading not guilty, it both firms pleading not guilty, rr terre— both firms pleading not guilty, it found several— both firms pleading not guilty, it found several acts of weekreewee— it found several acts of negligence by both companies. but wer— negligence by both companies. but that wasn't— negligence by both companies. but that wasn't enough for full krewkrw— but that wasn't enough for full kretrkrw rer— but that wasn't enough for full liability for the— but that wasn't enough for full liability for the crash . 228 liability for the crash. 228 peepke— liability for the crash. 228 peepke teet— liability for the crash. 228 people lost their lives on the tiger— people lost their lives on the flight travelling _ people lost their lives on the flight travelling from rio de renewe— flight travelling from rio de were re— flight travelling from rio de janeiro to paris— flight travelling from rio de janeiro to paris in june . 2009. janeiro to paris in june. 2009. are— janeiro to paris in june. 2009. are rte— janeiro to paris in june. 2009. are the king— janeiro to paris in june. 2009. and the king and— janeiro to paris in june. 2009. and the king and queen consort reeve— and the king and queen consort have personally— and the king and queen consort have personally picked a recipe for we— have personally picked a recipe for the coronation— have personally picked a recipe for the coronation cake to mark the event— for the coronation cake to mark the event .— for the coronation cake to mark the event . the— for the coronation cake to mark the event . the recipe includes the event. the recipe includes eprweet—

the event. the recipe includes eprweerr ,— the event. the recipe includes spinach , broad— the event. the recipe includes spinach , broad beans and spinach, broad beans and rerreeew— spinach, broad beans and rerreeew .— spinach, broad beans and tarragon . the— spinach, broad beans and tarragon . the case which will be tarragon. the case which will be sewed— tarragon. the case which will be served er— tarragon. the case which will be served at we— tarragon. the case which will be served at the big— tarragon. the case which will be served at the big lunches during the coronation— served at the big lunches during the coronation celebrations . the the coronation celebrations. the rare— the coronation celebrations. the rare eweew— the coronation celebrations. the late queen had— the coronation celebrations. the late queen had a— the coronation celebrations. the late queen had a coronation errrekew— late queen had a coronation ewekew tr— late queen had a coronation chicken in 1953— late queen had a coronation chicken in 1953 to mark her event— chicken in 1953 to mark her ewewr .— chicken in 1953 to mark her event . online._ chicken in 1953 to mark her event . online. dab+ radio and on event. online. dab+ radio and on wre— event. online. dab+ radio and on we re— event. online. dab+ radio and on tune in rere— event. online. dab+ radio and on tune in were re— event. online. dab+ radio and on tune in this is gb— event. online. dab+ radio and on tune in this is gb news. now we— tune in this is gb news. now we beek— tune in this is gb news. now we back re— tune in this is gb news. now we week w .— it's back to. emily kee— it's back to. emily wee ,— it's back to. emily yes , welcome to dewbs& it's back to. emily- yes , welcome to dewbs& co it's back to. emily— yes , welcome to dewbs& co with yes, welcome to dewbs& co with rmrw— yes, welcome to dewbs& co with me, emily carver. _ yes, welcome to dewbs& co with me, emily carver. ll me, emily carver. i'll be standing in for michel this evening. and we've got a wonderful panel today. we've got alex dean, who is a political consultant, of course, and we've alex dean, who is a political conjoe ant, of course, and we've alex dean, who is a political conjoe phillips,»urse, and we've alex dean, who is a political conjoe phillips, who, and we've alex dean, who is a political conjoe phillips, who isnd we've got joe phillips, who is a political commentator there we go. so we've got lots to talk about today. but i want to kick off with the anti—monarchists . off with the anti—monarchists. they're back again. they are saying that they are

underrepresented in the media. please do get in touch at gbviews@gbnews.uk as usual or at gbviews@gbnews.uk as usual or at gb news on twitter. you can tweet us throughout. so shall we get stuck in to our first topic right public. they are a well known campaign group. they don't like the monarchy. they've made that very clear. they're saying they're under represented, particularly the bbc's royal particularly in the bbc's royal coverage . alex, do you agree? coverage. alex, do you agree? well, you can't blame them for trying to springboard off a coronation to get a bit of attention. right. this is one of terr— attention. right. this is one of their moments. _ attention. right. this is one of their moments. but— right. this is one of their moments. but honestly, i trink— their moments. but honestly, i think thew-re— their moments. but honestly, i think they're wildly overrepresented people in our metre— overrepresented people in our media seek— overrepresented people in our media seek to— overrepresented people in our media seek to give some kind of betwee— media seek to give some kind of balance-having— media seek to give some kind of balance having alternative balance by having an alternative perspective— balance by having an alternative perepeerwe .— balance by having an alternative perspective . they— balance by having an alternative perspective . they are perspective. they are a tweaking— perspective. they are a dwindling small percentage of peepke— dwindling small percentage of peepke tw— dwindling small percentage of peepke re ew— dwindling small percentage of people in our country. every rime— people in our country. every time were— people in our country. every time there is— people in our country. every time there is an— people in our country. every time there is an occasion like rere— time there is an occasion like rite—ew- time there is an occasion like were—err rrrel this, somebody gets on the airwaves— this, somebody gets on the airwaves kw— this, somebody gets on the airwaves by dint of having these mrwerrw— airwaves by dint of having these mrwerrw viewe— airwaves by dint of having these minority views and— airwaves by dint of having these minority views and says, we stewe— minority views and says, we etewke eer— minority views and says, we should get. of - minority views and says, we should get of the monarchy, should get rid of the monarchy, arre— should get rid of the monarchy, awe wew— should get rid of the monarchy, are were a— should get rid of the monarchy, and then a million people come out and then a million people come ewrlrrre— and then a million people come ewrlrrre mei— and then a million people come out-the mail and— and then a million people come out the mail and we have this out in the mail and we have this serr— out in the mail and we have this sort er— out in the mail and we have this sort of monarchy— out in the mail and we have this sort of monarchy explosion. it's krke—tkwe- like a red, white and blue bezeeke— like a red, white and blue bazooka has— like a red, white and blue bazooka has gone off everywhere. and bazooka has gone off everywhere. awe—tetrahed- bazooka has gone off everywhere. and—delighted for- bazooka has gone off everywhere. and delighted for the

and everyone's delighted for the occasion . and— and everyone's delighted for the occasion . and they seems occasion. and they nobody seems to occasion. and they nobody seems re-rtem— occasion. and they nobody seems re-rtem re— occasion. and they nobody seems to-them to account- occasion. and they nobody seems to them to account the to hold them to account for the recr— to hold them to account for the feet-reek— to hold them to account for the feet-keeklwr— to hold them to account for the fact-looklbit silly- to hold them to account for the fact look bit silly that fact they look a bit silly that wew— fact they look a bit silly that they take.— fact they look a bit silly that they have. absolutely. they have eteekwrew— they have. absolutely. they have absolutely—with. absolutely nothing to do with metere— absolutely nothing to do with modern britain.— absolutely nothing to do with modern britain. they think they do modern britain. they think they te—etewt— modern britain. they think they te—etewt em- modern britain. they think they do shout on twitter do when they shout on twitter teeewee— do when they shout on twitter teeewee tte — do when they shout on twitter because the very— do when they shout on twitter because the very small group of peeete— because the very small group of peepte treet— because the very small group of people that agree— because the very small group of people that agree with them, ewe— people that agree with them, etwe—etreetl plus people from abroad, all retry— plus people from abroad, all rettw te— plus people from abroad, all rally te trem— plus people from abroad, all rally to them and say, yes, but eetwettw— rally to them and say, yes, but eetwettw tmttw— rally to them and say, yes, but actually, emily, i— rally to them and say, yes, but actually, emily, i don't think mew— actually, emily, i don't think they represent— actually, emily, i don't think they represent anyone all. they represent anyone at all. amt— they represent anyone at all. amt-treet— they represent anyone at all. amt-met ,— they represent anyone at all. amt-met , wew- they represent anyone at all. and that , you know, i and i think that, you know, i ten-t— and i think that, you know, i tem-t tteme— and i think that, you know, i don't blame them for trying to tme— don't blame them for trying to tme ter— don't blame them for trying to use this for attention. but temeettw— use this for attention. but temeettw r— use this for attention. but honestly, i think they're overrepresented, not alex, maybe wette— overrepresented, not alex, maybe wew-re-tewet— overrepresented, not alex, maybe wew-re-tewet-ttewi you're out of touch because they commissioned— you're out of touch because they commissioned about commissioned a poll about emttweteem— commissioned a poll about enthusiasm for— commissioned a poll about enthusiasm for the coronation mt— enthusiasm for the coronation mt epperemttw— enthusiasm for the coronation and apparently only 15% of us are enthused— and apparently only 15% of us are enthused plastic that teem-t— are enthused plastic that doesn't necessarily mean that wewre— doesn't necessarily mean that wewre e— doesn't necessarily mean that you're a republican. \r:::r 'r: you're a republican. no. and just— you're a republican. no. and twet tetere— you're a republican. no. and just before we came on air, i was just looking at their twitter account . they've got 145 twitter account. they've got 145 followers and you know, it apparently so . i mean, i might apparently so. i mean, i might have got the name muddled up, but it looks like the same organisation. and the last tweet on there was 29 teen. so i mean,

i do think i do but you know, it's really getting stuck in they need some pr support you know if you're going to get on it get on it. but i just sort of think, yes , they've got a point. think, yes, they've got a point. they're attacking the bbc. they've written to the bbc . we they've written to the bbc. we don't know what the bbc's response is. there is all alternative coverage of the coronation on channel for all media outlets will cover it . the media outlets will cover it. the bbc is in a slightly different position, i think, because it is the national broadcaster . it the national broadcaster. it will also be broadcasting to the rest of the world. and you know, in big occasions like this, as with the queen's funeral, as you know, a lot of the camera positions and things like that will be pooled. so it'll be a shared resource and it is inevitably going to go to the bbc for the majority of that. so i think, you know, they are servicing a global audience , not servicing a global audience, not just the uk. i mean, i suspect people are perhaps less enthusiastic about the coronation . but then look, as

coronation. but then look, as alex said at the queen's funeral and the astonishing, you know, people standing in a queue for hours and hours and hours and by and large , well behaved, and large, well behaved, extremely , you know, they took extremely, you know, they took it seriously. it was a moment of sombre reflection , action. and, sombre reflection, action. and, yes , there should probably be yes, there should probably be discussions about what happens to the monarchy . but you've got to the monarchy. but you've got to the monarchy. but you've got to pick your timing . it to pick your timing. it certainly wasn't right to do it at the funeral. i wonder what peeete— at the funeral. i wonder what peepte et— at the funeral. i wonder what peepte et treme— at the funeral. i wonder what people at home think,- i wonder what people at home think, because as emetmee— people at home think, because as emetmee rt— people at home think, because as sometimes it does— people at home think, because as sometimes it does seem perhaps treet— sometimes it does seem perhaps that me— sometimes it does seem perhaps that et— sometimes it does seem perhaps that some of the— sometimes it does seem perhaps that some of the coverage is a ttttte— that some of the coverage is a little sycophantic_ that some of the coverage is a little sycophantic . yes, we all little sycophantic. yes, we all reve— little sycophantic. yes, we all have t— little sycophantic. yes, we all have t 90— little sycophantic. yes, we all have t 90 et— little sycophantic. yes, we all have a go at harry and meghan emt— have a go at harry and meghan mt mmee— have a go at harry and meghan and prince andrew— have a go at harry and meghan and prince andrew as fair game for and prince andrew as fair game ter etwewe— and prince andrew as fair game for obvious reasons. but when it te— for obvious reasons. but when it comes to questioning the memeretw-e— comes to questioning the monarchy's existence, do we rearw— monarchy's existence, do we reettw te — monarchy's existence, do we really do that— monarchy's existence, do we really do that in— monarchy's existence, do we really do that in our royal coverage or should we be doing mete— coverage or should we be doing that? r— coverage or should we be doing that? i would— coverage or should we be doing that? i would turn— coverage or should we be doing that? i would turn it on its meet. — that? i would turn it on its meet. r— that? i would turn it on its head. i would— that? i would turn it on its head. i would say- that? i would turn it on its head. : f head. i would say actually to your point in one way, and i've got no reason or right to patronise these people, but i feel slightly sorry for them

because these things come because when these things come into the news for a reason, one, very sadly, the death of the queen says now not queen everyone says now is not the right no, exactly. the right time. no, exactly. when comes into the news for when it comes into the news for a reason to coronation, people say a celebration. say this is a celebration. now is right time. so it's is not the right time. so it's very it's very difficult. i mean, just their views so mean, i just find their views so auen mean, i just find their views so alien and obsessive that i find it identify with it difficult to identify with them. if you were that them. but if you were of that perspective, i can see why you would that uphill would think that it's an uphill struggle. put your struggle. but you've put your finger they should have finger on when they should have been going to town, which is you know, at business over know, look at this business over harry are they in or harry and meghan. are they in or are they out? are they are they out? why are they getting this money if they're not working? royals the not working? royals look at the attention the attention of the divides in the royal is that really royal family is that really reflective? prince andrew open goal most goal even on the most charitable, it was an open goal for and an own goal, for him and then an own goal, isn't so, you know, man isn't it? so, you know, the man couldn't punching himself isn't it? so, you know, the man co thei't punching himself isn't it? so, you know, the man co thei't so,inching himself isn't it? so, you know, the man co thei't so, youing himself isn't it? so, you know, the man co thei't so, you know,nself isn't it? so, you know, the man co thei't so, you know, youf in the face. so, you know, you would think someone else would think that someone else would think that someone else would have go as well. it would have a go as well. and it seems to perhaps that was the seems to me perhaps that was the gap 2019. that's when they gap from 2019. that's when they just didn't do anything. so you say pick their moments. actually, had actually, they've had ample

opportunity before the late queen to do queen sad and i think to do things. think they didn't do things. i think they didn't do it, know. yeah, you can find it, you know. yeah, you can find eemetetw— it, you know. yeah, you can find eemetetw te— it, you know. yeah, you can find somebody to come— it, you know. yeah, you can find somebody to come on- it, you know. yeah, you can find somebody to come on a- e yeah, you can find somebody to come on a panel, stew— somebody to come on a panel, etew e— somebody to come on a panel, etew e program— somebody to come on a panel, show a program this or show a program like this or a meme— show a program like this or a theme m— show a program like this or a were it er— show a program like this or a phone in or any— show a program like this or a phone in or any of the number of metre— phone in or any of the number of media broadcasts— phone in or any of the number of media broadcasts that will be going— media broadcasts that will be eetme-twe— media broadcasts that will be eetme-tte-we- media broadcasts that will be geme-tte-we te- media broadcasts that will be going the up to the going on in the run up to the eeretrem— going on in the run up to the coronation on.— going on in the run up to the coronation on. but what what do mew—wew- coronation on. but what what do mew—wew kmewl they actually want you know, wewe — they actually want you know, wewe neet— they actually want you know, you've-gotlsav- they actually want you know,- you've - got i say -words you've only got to say the words meettemt— you've only got to say the words president boris— you've only got to say the words president boris johnson. and i ttmk—meke- president boris johnson. and i think make anybody president boris johnson. and i- think—make anybody an think that would make anybody an ardent—teet- think that would make anybody an ertemt—keet - think that would make anybody an ardent—yeah so- ardent monarchist. yeah so met-s— ardent monarchist. yeah so ttet-s—ttmee- ardent monarchist. yeah sol that's—things that that's one of the things that happened australia, which happened in australia, which is an comparison. even an apt comparison. they even i think the republicans would say they're their they're further ahead on their agenda than we are. and one of the stumbling blocks in the referendum, they had in australia was, okay, you don't want the monarchy, you want the monarchy, what do you want the monarchy, what do you want the want to have instead? and the model that was put forward met with pretty much universal disapprobation. not disapprobation. so it's not enough to you don't enough just to say you don't want we've got, which want the system we've got, which many great many of us think is great anyway. but you don't want anyway. but if you don't want that you to propose that system, you have to propose something else. and that's when these things apart. these things fall apart. it's such a student union conversation isn't it? conversation debate, isn't it? it is. i do think some of these anti—monarchist— it is. i do think some of these anti—monarchist republicans are tia— anti—monarchist republicans are twet—etwek— anti—monarchist republicans are twet—etwekltte- just, you know, stuck in the tetetme— just, you know, stuck in the debating chamber thinking mew-re— debating chamber thinking ttew-re—terl they're all very clever for

tmmkme— they're all very clever for. thinking,-outside they're all very clever for- thinking,-outside the thinking, you know, outside the trek. — thinking, you know, outside the trek. -i.i.t,_ thinking, you know, outside the box. -think, - know, - thinking, you know, outside the box. think, know, to box. and i think, you know, to a eertem— box. and i think, you know, to a eettm-tree— box. and i think, you know, to a certain-the king- box. and i think, you know, to a certain the king has certain extent, the king has mete— certain extent, the king has metelwew— certain extent, the king has madelvery clear- certain extent, the king has made very clear that he wants made it very clear that he wants a made it very clear that he wants e-tewm— made it very clear that he wants a-down monarchy. . made it very clear that he wants a down monarchy. �*vw�*rz; made it very clear that he wants- a-down monarchy. we saw a slimmed down monarchy. we saw that happening-— a slimmed down monarchy. we saw that happening. and i think in the latter years of queen's the latter years of the queen's life, was a certain sort life, there was a certain sort of down, weeding out of slimming down, a weeding out of slimming down, a weeding out of people. you now know that of people. so you now know that you've got the royals, you've got the working royals, the non—working the the non—working royals, the hangers on. and i think the fact that coronation is down to that the coronation is down to 2000. guest it's can you imagine 8000 people crammed into westminster abbey for the queen's. it must have been remerkette— queen's. it must have been remarkable. but— qmcc" it must have been remarkable. but there was a repert— remarkable. but there was a reeert ewt— remarkable. but there was a report out this— remarkable. but there was a report out this week well, last week— report out this week well, last week trem — report out this week well, last week from civitas, know week from civitas, i don't know if week from civitas, i don't know tt-rt,— week from civitas, i don't know i-i, ctwtee— week from civitas, i don't know if-it, civitas is- week from civitas, i don't know if-it, civitas is a- if you saw it, civitas is a ttmk— if you saw it, civitas is a tmmk temk— if you saw it, civitas is a think tank westminster , think tank in westminster, meter— think tank in westminster, another think— think tank in westminster, another think tank. ' r: another think tank. and they eett— another think tank. and they said monarchy at risk of said the monarchy is at risk of abolishing itself because they're doing enough . there they're not doing enough. there aren't enough working royals , aren't enough working royals, there enough public there aren't enough public engagements . they're making engagements. they're not making themselves . but this is themselves seen. but this is what king charles wanted, isn't it? to slim down. it? he wanted to slim it down. but do you want from but then what do you want from them? i don't think them? you know, i don't think eeeete— them? you know, i don't think peepte kmew. — them? you know, i don't think people know. so— them? you know, i don't think people know. so ican- , you know, i don't think people know. tar?" , you know, i don't think people know. rt:" people know. so i can tell you, you ask rhetorically, but i think the is we all want think the answer is we all want them to be like princess anne.

know. the first that's know. that's the first that's the— know. that's the first that's the ekemete — know. that's the first that's the example everyone's the example that everyone's mind etwewe—tte- the example that everyone's mind always—the reason. always turns to. but the reason i always turns to. but the reason r-ttet— always turns to. but the reason r-ttet tme— always turns to. but the reason i that this republican i think that this republican eeemte— i think that this republican agenda struggle i think that this republican- agenda_struggle for agenda is going to struggle for agenda is going to struggle for elm— agenda is going to struggle for elte emetter— agenda is going to struggle for a.is another part- agenda is going to struggle for a is another part of british a bit is another part of british mama,— a bit is another part of british instinct,_instinct. instinct, the british instinct for instinct, the british instinct ter tetr— instinct, the british instinct ter tetr play— instinct, the british instinct for fair play and a fair chance. amt— for fair play and a fair chance. amt r— for fair play and a fair chance. amt r ttmk— for fair play and a fair chance. and i think most— for fair play and a fair chance. and i think most people will tttmk— and i think most people will think,-charles- and i think most people will think, charles an think, give king charles an eppertwmtw— think, give king charles an. opportunity-waiting opportunity. he's been waiting teeter— opportunity. he's been waiting terreree—er. l longer than any crown ever. trem. —mm | longer than any crown ever.| trem. —mm e right. let's let's give him a emete— right. let's let's give him a emtme-see— right. let's let's give him a chance-see how- right. let's let's give him a chance see how he goes. if chance to see how he goes. if you— chance to see how he goes. if wew ere— chance to see how he goes. if wew et— chance to see how he goes. if you are of republican you are of the republican mtmteet— you are of the republican mindset, perhaps a year or mindset, perhaps in a year or twe— mindset, perhaps in a year or twe-te-e— mindset, perhaps in a year or twe-te-e tet— mindset, perhaps in a year or two-he's had a- mindset, perhaps in a year or two he's had a chance to two when he's had a chance to get— two when he's had a chance to get me— two when he's had a chance to get me teet— two when he's had a chance to get his feet under— two when he's had a chance to get his feet under the desk and reeve— get his feet under the desk and have t— get his feet under the desk and have t 90— get his feet under the desk and have e ge emt— get his feet under the desk and have a go and lord knows he'll make— have a go and lord knows he'll make-ttke— have a go and lord knows he'll make-like-rest. have a go and lord knows he'll make-like-rest of| make mistakes like the rest of us, make mistakes like the rest of we-wemt— make mistakes like the rest of we-wemt thew- make mistakes like the rest of us, when they have. us, that's when they may have. if us, that's when they may have. rt-teer— us, that's when they may have. rt-teerlmmt— us, that's when they may have. if-bearlmind the- us, that's when they may have. if bear mind the need to if they bear in mind the need to tweet— if they bear in mind the need to tweet emt— if they bear in mind the need to tweet and actually— if they bear in mind the need to tweet and actually do something that tweet and actually do something met—mew— tweet and actually do something met—thew mtett- that that's when they might eetwettw— that that's when they might actually progress. that that's when they might- actually-progress. but actually see some progress. but it actually see some progress. but tt-eeme— actually see some progress. but tt-eemelte— actually see some progress. but it-goinglbe over- it ain't going to be over a coronation— it ain't going to be over a coronation -the- it ain't going to be over a coronation the eyes of it ain't going to be over a- coronation -the eyes of the coronation when the eyes of the were— coronation when the eyes of the wetter—metre- world are on the media representation. " e world are on the media- representation. i mean, it would be oddifi representation. i mean, it would be odd if i don't know, be rather odd if i don't know, gb were covering the gb news were covering the coronation and you some coronation and you had some miserable republican sat next to you saying this shouldn't even be it reminds me of be happening. it reminds me of it reminds me of that disaster spoof movie aeroplane, where they're rescue the they're trying to rescue the plane. then halfway through plane. and then halfway through mew— plane. and then halfway through ttew ewt— plane. and then halfway through ttew ewt te— plane. and then halfway through they cut to another— and then halfway through they cut to another point of wew— they cut to another point of view-there's—

view and there's this intellectual- intellectual sitting between two ttrme. — intellectual sitting between two ttrme. lette— intellectual sitting between two firms. .says, well,- intellectual sitting between two firms. says, well, they paid firms. he says, well, they paid for firms. he says, well, they paid ter metr— firms. he says, well, they paid for their tickets. _ firms. he says, well, they paid for their tickets. they knew wret— for their tickets. they knew whet-eettm- for their tickets. they knew what getting into. what they were getting into. i say,— what they were getting into. i sew—teem- what they were getting into. ii sew—teem tme say, let them crash. yeah, this gees— say, let them crash. yeah, this gees-r— say, let them crash. yeah, this gees-r mem— say, let them crash. yeah, this goes i mean, nobody has goes back. i mean, nobody has these— goes back. i mean, nobody has these were— goes back. i mean, nobody has these views and— goes back. i mean, nobody has these views and everyone's going to these views and everyone's going te te— these views and everyone's going te te waterme— these views and everyone's going to be watching the— these views and everyone's going to be watching the uk. it's one of to be watching the uk. it's one et ewr— to be watching the uk. it's one of our moments— to be watching the uk. it's one of our moments in— to be watching the uk. it's one of our moments in the sun. and you— of our moments in the sun. and wew knew— of our moments in the sun. and wew kmew wtete— of our moments in the sun. and you know what? if— of our moments in the sun. and you know what? if we didn't have the you know what? if we didn't have tree—we— you know what? if we didn't have tree—we wewtt- you know what? if we didn't have the -we would -we| the monarchy, we would wish we met—reek,— the monarchy, we would wish we met—reek, rt- had it. because look, if erttem-e— had it. because look, if britain's-to- had it. because look, if britain's-to be. had it. because look, if britain's to be the had it. because look, if- britain's-to be the eye of britain's going to be the eye of the wett— britain's going to be the eye of the world for— britain's going to be the eye of the world for this— britain's going to be the eye of the world for this occasion and you— the world for this occasion and wew knew,— the world for this occasion and wew kmew, wew— the world for this occasion and you know, you don't have to water— you know, you don't have to wetet rt,— you know, you don't have to wetet t, r— you know, you don't have to watch it, i think— you know, you don't have to watch it, i think there probably is watch it, i think there probably te—teee— watch it, i think there probably is less enthusiasm. watch it, i think there probably. is-less enthusiasm. i is you know, less enthusiasm. i ten-t— is you know, less enthusiasm. i tent-r— is you know, less enthusiasm. i tent-r ten-t— is you know, less enthusiasm. i don't-i don't know- is you know, less enthusiasm. i don't-i don't know how. don't know. i don't know how easy it is people easy it is for people to organise parties, whether easy it is for people to organisthe parties, whether easy it is for people to organisthe inclination, whether there's the inclination, whether they'll, you know, we've got an extra holiday, what see extra bank holiday, see what see what viewers think. well, what the viewers think. well, should at what should we have a look at what you're at home? what you're saying at home? what people are you're saying at home? what peepte eewme— you're saying at home? what people are saying at- g , what people are saying at home? attem— people are saying at home? ktrtem sewe— people are saying at home? adrian says, i— people are saying at home? adrian says, i would think that we adrian says, i would think that -emee— adrian says, i would think that we more supporters our we have more supporters of our king— we have more supporters of our kme-memeretw- we have more supporters of our kme-memeretw m- we have more supporters of our king monarchy in this king and the monarchy in this eewmtw— king and the monarchy in this. country—republican. country than we do republican. i tewe—ttere- country than we do republican. i love _there you i country than we do republican. ii love _there you go, love our monarchy. there you go, wemeremet— love our monarchy. there you go, monarchist-also-onel monarchist there. i also saw one treet— monarchist there. i also saw one that eett— monarchist there. i also saw one that eete ewtte— monarchist there. i also saw one that said quite well, not the twt— that said quite well, not the reverse, but simon has said greet— reverse, but simon has said greet-every- reverse, but simon has said great every news great show, but every news ewttet— great show, but every news ewttet-emt- great show, but every news outlet-and on- great show, but every news outlet and on about outlet goes on and on about the kewete. — outlet goes on and on about the kewete. leer-t— outlet goes on and on about the royals. idon't-one- outlet goes on and on about the royals. don't one jot royals. i don't care one jot etewt— royals. i don't care one jot etewt king— royals. i don't care one jot about king charles and all his rt— about king charles and all his cronies, it will— about king charles and all his cronies, it will be— about king charles and all his cronies, it will be nice to have

the— cronies, it will be nice to have the werew— cronies, it will be nice to have the monday off,— cronies, it will be nice to have the monday off, but won't be the monday off, but i won't be waterme— the monday off, but i won't be watching coronation . watching the coronation. but but for watching the coronation. but but ter the— watching the coronation. but but for the republicans, apathy won't do it . they want to be won't do it. they want to be positively on their side, and that's what they're failing to do. you know, say, well, do. you know, people say, well, perhaps for perhaps there's less support for the there was the monarchy. well, there was a lot less support for charles. the first. right. if you go back in you a lot in history, you can be a lot worse than some people disliking you think it you on twitter. well, i think it will some gone up and down, will take some gone up and down, hasn't it? i mean, you know, the eweeert— hasn't it? i mean, you know, the ewppert ter— hasn't it? i mean, you know, the ewppert ter the— e fl i mean, you know, the support for the monarchy eteetwtetw— support for the monarchy absolutely plunged diana absolutely plunged after diana eret— absolutely plunged after diana died—gradually- absolutely plunged after diana died gradually sort died and then it gradually sort of died and then it gradually sort et eet— died and then it gradually sort et eet beek— died and then it gradually sort et eet teek we— died and then it gradually sort of got back up again. i think it wttt—kmel will take some time for king ctertee— will take some time for king ctertee te. — will take some time for king charles to. yes.— will take some time for king charles to. “kit; /r:::r. will take some time for king charles to. v/rzzitfr v/rzzr. r: charles to. yes. you know, build support. i mean, the late queen passed away. so much sadness across the country, across the world. takes a, you know, a world. it takes a, you know, a big person to live up to that. almost impossible. he has to terme— almost impossible. he has to eetme-emt- almost impossible. he has to define-and be- almost impossible. he has to define and be himself. define himself and be himself. but define himself and be himself. ewtlte— define himself and be himself. ewtlte tetr— define himself and be himself. but-be fair, alex,- define himself and be himself. but be fair, alex, i mean, we but to be fair, alex, i mean, we do but to be fair, alex, i mean, we rte-ewtte— but to be fair, alex, i mean, we te-ewtte e— but to be fair, alex, i mean, we te-ewtte e tet— but to be fair, alex, i mean, we do quite a lot about him. do know quite a lot about him. i do know quite a lot about him. r mem— do know quite a lot about him. i mean, we know— do know quite a lot about him. i mean, we know we— do know quite a lot about him. i mean, we know we know- do know quite a lot about him. i mean, we know we know that he cares much about the cares very much about the environment you and was environment, you know, and was banging drum before it was banging that drum before it was fashionable to the point that people thought was slightly people thought he was slightly bonkers. they've bonkers. you know, they've chosen quiche. don't want to

chosen a quiche. i don't want to go down that route, please. but you know, the things that they do and even the coronation invitations, have you had your. i thought it was beautifulyand i thought it was beautiful and i'm i thought it was beautiful and m etttt— i thought it was beautiful and i'm still waiting.— i thought it was beautiful and i'm still waiting. the post has teem— i'm still waiting. the post has been terrible.— i'm still waiting. the post has been terrible. yeah. me too. i twee-t— been terrible. yeah. me too. i tewer-t tet— been terrible. yeah. me too. i haven't had mine— been terrible. yeah. me too. i haven't had mine yet. - been terrible. yeah. me too. i haven't had mine yet. actually no.has haven't had mine yet. actually no. has anyone at home got an invitation an you know they do, yes. i mean, that was beautiful. met— yes. i mean, that was beautiful. that we— yes. i mean, that was beautiful. that was lovely.— yes. i mean, that was beautiful. that was lovely-the- tv/rzin; i mean, that was beautiful. that was lovely. the things that was lovely. and the things treet— that was lovely. and the things met-emt— that was lovely. and the things met-mt twe- that was lovely. and the things that and the queen do, that they he and the queen do, i threw— that they he and the queen do, i tmmk, wew— that they he and the queen do, i think, you know,— that they he and the queen do, i think, you know, we do know what eett— think, you know, we do know what settle— think, you know, we do know what eertle eereem— think, you know, we do know what sort a person, person he is, sort of a person, person he is, wret— sort of a person, person he is, whet-et— sort of a person, person he is, what-oflperson- sort of a person, person he is, what of person she is. what sort of a person she is. met-e— what sort of a person she is. mete-amt— what sort of a person she is. mete-amt r— what sort of a person she is. that's and i think you can that's fair. and i think you can be the— that's fair. and i think you can be the longest— that's fair. and i think you can be the longest run— that's fair. and i think you can be the longest run up, doesn't tekt— be the longest run up, doesn't tett wew— be the longest run up, doesn't tell you about. _ be the longest run up, doesn't tell you about. \r:::r e : e tell you about. no, it doesn't. amt— tell you about. no, it doesn't. amt wee,— tell you about. no, it doesn't. amt etee, wew— tell you about. no, it doesn't. and also, you have— tell you about. no, it doesn't. and also, you have to- tell you about. \r:::r e : c and also, you have to stop doing the times— and also, you have to stop doing the things when— and also, you have to stop doing the things when you're actually in the things when you're actually m—keet.— the things when you're actually m—keem se- the things when you're actually in _yeah. so pete- the things when you're actuallyi in _yeah. so pete says, in the role. yeah. so pete says, i would be keen on watching it, the i expect the the coronation, but i expect the king ruin by putting king will ruin it by putting a wokeist plant on it. i don't think many trust him not think many people trust him not to into clown show, to turn it into a clown show, and is one criticism that and that is one criticism that has been levelled against king charles. he was prince, charles. and when he was prince, yeah, the queen stuck a yeah, the queen stuck to a position of studious neutrality . and gosh, it must have been tttttewtt— . and gosh, it must have been. difficult—like difficult sometimes because like

any difficult sometimes because like wew-wewtt— difficult sometimes because like any-would have- difficult sometimes because like any would have had any of us, she would have had were— any of us, she would have had wtewe-ete— any of us, she would have had views-she wished- any of us, she would have had views she wished she views that she wished that she eewtt — views that she wished that she eewtt-emt— views that she wished that she could - and people - views that she wished that she could and people that could express and people that ete— could express and people that etre—emt— could express and people thati etre—emt-ttet she must have and people that ete— she must have and people that etre-went— she must have and people that she _wantlshake- she must have and people that she want shake hands she didn't want to shake hands wttm— she didn't want to shake hands wttm-we— she didn't want to shake hands with.-we made— she didn't want to shake hands with. we made her and so with. and we made her and so term.— with. and we made her and so tertm ewt— with. and we made her and so forth. but charles's position was—naturally, forth. but charles's position was remember naturally, forth. but charles's position was remember na'andly, forth. but charles's position was remember na'and it's people remember it. and it's entw— people remember it. and it's emtw—r— people remember it. and it's emtw—r knew,- people remember it. and it's only-i know, but. people remember it. and it's. only-i know, but he only hindsight. i know, but he eewtt— only hindsight. i know, but he eewtt tewe— only hindsight. i know, but he could have done— only hindsight. i know, but he could have done retrospect could have done in retrospect wttt— could have done in retrospect wttt terme— could have done in retrospect wttt teme e— could have done in retrospect with being a bit— could have done in retrospect with being a bit more like her at with being a bit more like her et-ttme,— with being a bit more like her at-time,lthink- with being a bit more like her at time, think quite at the time, i think quite eeeetttw. — at the time, i think quite possibly. quite- at the time, i think quite possibly. gil. but i possibly. quite possibly. buti rte— possibly. quite possibly. buti we going— possibly. quite possibly. buti mean, it's going to— possibly. quite possibly. buti mean, it's going to be- possibly. gil. but i mean, it's going to be a transition—ii mean, it's going to be a- transition_| think transition period. and i think wret— transition period. and i think whet-seem- transition period. and i think what-seen is- transition period. and i think what seen is william transition period. and i think- what-seen is william and what we have seen is william and kete— what we have seen is william and me the— what we have seen is william and me the ew— what we have seen is william and kate, the now prince— what we have seen is william and kate, the now prince and mmeeee— kate, the now prince and princess of— kate, the now prince and princess of wales , who just get princess of wales, who just get on princess of wales, who just get em wttt— princess of wales, who just get em wttt rt— princess of wales, who just get on with it and— princess of wales, who just get on with it and do— princess of wales, who just get on with it and do the job. and, you— on with it and do the job. and, wew knew,— on with it and do the job. and, you know, whether you like them or you know, whether you like them er met, — you know, whether you like them er met, met-e— you know, whether you like them or not, that's their— you know, whether you like them or not, that's their job. mew-re— or not, that's their job. they're doing- or not, that's their job. they're doing it spot on. and i threw— they're doing it spot on. and i tmmk, wew— they're doing it spot on. and i think, you know— they're doing it spot on. and i think, you know ,_ they're doing it spot on. and i think, you know , whatever you think, you know, whatever you tttmk— think, you know, whatever you tmmk, rt— think, you know, whatever you tmmk, tt wew— think, you know, whatever you think, if you think you're gettme— think, if you think you're getting value— think, if you think you're getting value for money because mew-re— getting value for money because mew-re doing— getting value for money because they're doing what— getting value for money because they're doing what they're ewppeeet — they're doing what they're ewppeeet te — they're doing what they're supposed to do, that's fine. e supposed to do, that's fine. it eetme-— supposed to do, that's fine. it eetme- tet— supposed to do, that's fine. itl seems-a lot-viewers seems like a lot of our viewers at home just looking forward at home are just looking forward to a bank holiday weekend to having a bank holiday weekend by of things, which by the sounds of things, which is enough. you said, not is fair enough. as you said, not everyone to watch the everyone has to watch the coronation. easy coronation. that is an easy decision make if you don't decision to make if you don't fancy but i do think it's fancy it. but i do think it's quite interesting to think that these republicans are proposing essentially of

essentially for bbc coverage of royal events to be to be to be with people who don't even want it to exist. people across latin amertee— it to exist. people across latin amertee twee— it to exist. people across latin america tune in— it to exist. people across latin america tune in to— e rix people across latin america tune in to watch the eeretrer— america tune in to watch the coronation and— america tune in to watch the coronation and then get ten mtrwtee— coronation and then get ten mtrwtee et— coronation and then get ten minutes of a— coronation and then get ten minutes of a republican group like minutes of a republican group ttke rerttre— minutes of a republican group like ranting at— minutes of a republican group like ranting at you, ranting at wew. — like ranting at you, ranting at wew. ewt— like ranting at you, ranting at you. but apparently- like ranting at you, ranting at you. but apparently i- like ranting at you, ranting at you. but apparently i must say, patrick christys, who was just on, did mention to me that apparently gb news has been trying to get representative from republic. the organisation on and they have refused . so on and they have refused. so there you go. perhaps they don't want to represent represent themselves as much as they say you've got to follow them on social media. those figures, ertw— social media. those figures, ertw ere— social media. those figures, ertw et— social media. those figures, only one of them— social media. those figures, only one of them is- social media. those figures, only one of them is a- t “rim: those figures, only one of them is a bit busy. mere-s— only one of them is a bit busy. there's probably— only one of them is a bit busy. there's probably only- only one of them is a bit busy. there's probably only one- only one of them is a bit busy. there's probably only one of them. well, you know , please do them. well, you know, please do get touch home if you are get in touch at home if you are one them. if are one of them. if you are a republican and you're sick of all this sycophantic coverage fawning over the royal family, perhaps you anyway, we're fawning over the royal family, perha|to you anyway, we're fawning over the royal family, perha|to you movingyway, we're fawning over the royal family, perha|to you moving only, we're fawning over the royal family, perha|to you moving on to we're fawning over the royal family, perha|to youmoving on to aa're fawning over the royal family, perha|to youmoving on to a new going to be moving on to a new topic coming up. more and more patients going patients are going private, choosing to take private gp appointments because, well, presumably they can't get an

appointment with the nhs . should appointment with the nhs. should people go private if they can afford it .

that? how can they have safety data ? if you're listening to gb data? if you're listening to gb wewe— data? if you're listening to gb wewe teete— data? if you're listening to gb wewe kette .— data? if you're listening to gb news radio . one— 3“ if you're listening to gb news radio . one that's news radio. one that's using cowe— news radio. one that's using covre, twe— news radio. one that's using covm, i've still— news radio. one that's using covid, i've still got my lovely emet— covid, i've still got my lovely reret wttr— covid, i've still got my lovely panel with me,— covid, i've still got my lovely panel with me, alex kyiv retttteet— panel with me, alex kyiv political consulting and jim rrttttre— political consulting and jim phillips, political commentator. so phillips, political commentator. se were— phillips, political commentator. se going— phillips, political commentator. se going te— phillips, political commentator. so we're going to be— phillips, political commentator. so we're going to be turning our attention to private gps . attention to private gps. apparently more and more of us are turning to private gps simply to get an appointment on time. according to a survey of 2000 adults, 32% have gone private in the past three years. that's nearly a third and 53. more than half said they would consider using a private gp. alex if you can afford it, do

you have a moral duty considering the current waiting list in the nhs to go private? so i'm in category two. i happen not so i'm in category two. i happen ret te— so i'm in category two. i happen ret te reve— so i'm in category two. i happen not to have needed— so i'm in category two. i happen not to have needed to, but if i ttt— not to have needed to, but if i ttt r— not to have needed to, but if i ttt r wewtt— not to have needed to, but if i did i would certainly consider it. did i would certainly consider tt. art— did i would certainly consider tt. art r— did i would certainly consider it. and i remember when i remember reading somerset wrwgrem-e— remember reading somerset maugham's accounts of working in metres— maugham's accounts of working in resettete ert— maugham's accounts of working in hospitals and seeing wealthy retterte— hospitals and seeing wealthy patients coming— hospitals and seeing wealthy patients coming to hospitals for the impoverished— patients coming to hospitals for the impoverished and saying, you erewttr-t— the impoverished and saying, you erewttr-t te— the impoverished and saying, you shouldn't be here,— the impoverished and saying, you shouldn't be here, you should be going— shouldn't be here, you should be going ert— shouldn't be here, you should be going and paying— shouldn't be here, you should be going and paying for the treatment— going and paying for the treatment you're getting . when treatment you're getting. when we-tre— treatment you're getting. when we-tre we,- treatment you're getting. when we-the nhs, they- treatment you're getting. when we the nhs, they didn't we founded the nhs, they didn't ewtte— we founded the nhs, they didn't twttt—teekl build new hospitals. they took reerttete— build new hospitals. they took hospitals - private - build new hospitals. they took hospitals private into hospitals that were private into the hospitals that were private into tre—.— hospitals that were private into tre—. art - hospitals that were private into tre—. art tt- hospitals that were private intoi the_. and it seems the public sector. and it seems to the public sector. and it seems te me— the public sector. and it seems te me wat— the public sector. and it seems to me that there's— the public sector. and it seems to me that there's something you can learn from _ to me that there's something you can learn from that— to me that there's something you can learn from that process and etewt— can learn from that process and etewt tre— can learn from that process and etewt tre twtw— can learn from that process and about the duty that the more weettrw— about the duty that the more weettrw reve— about the duty that the more wealthy have to— about the duty that the more wealthy have to put their hands in wealthy have to put their hands tr tretr— wealthy have to put their hands in their pocket— wealthy have to put their hands in their pocket from time to ttme—te- in their pocket from time to ttme—te rew- in their pocket from time to ttme—te pew teri time if they can, to pay for tretr— time if they can, to pay for their treatment— time if they can, to pay for their treatment relieve their treatment and relieve the twrter— their treatment and relieve the burden-system.- their treatment and relieve the burden system. and burden on the system. and teeewee— burden on the system. and because people— burden on the system. and because people are so committed and understandably to nhs, and understandably to the nhs, i trtrk— and understandably to the nhs, i think-sometimes— and understandably to the nhs, i think sometimes confuse and understandably to the nhs, i thiniand sometimes confuse and understandably to the nhs, i thiniand som poures confuse and understandably to the nhs, i thiniand som pour scorn fuse and understandably to the nhs, i thiniand som pour scorn one that and try to pour scorn on tre— that and try to pour scorn on tre-et— that and try to pour scorn on the-of private— that and try to pour scorn on the of private health care the use of private health care systems— the use of private health care eweteme ert— the use of private health care systems and say— the use of private health care systems and say that it is bad if systems and say that it is bad tt wew— systems and say that it is bad tt wew eeeete— systems and say that it is bad if you google now. private reettr— if you google now. private reettr-er- if you google now. private health-gp in- if you google now. private health gp in the if you google now. private health-gp in the you health private gp in the uk, you wttt— health private gp in the uk, you wttt-tezer— health private gp in the uk, you will-dozen people- health private gp in the uk, you will dozen people willing will find a dozen people willing to will find a dozen people willing te-wttrtr— will find a dozen people willing te-wttrtr aa— will find a dozen people willing to within 24 hours, to see you within 24 hours, depending— to see you within 24 hours,-

depending—live, to see you within 24 hours,- depending_live, but depending on where you live, but rretettw— depending on where you live, but rretettw-e— depending on where you live, but probably-a dozen- depending on where you live, but probably a dozen different probably about a dozen different rrewttere— probably about a dozen different providers—that- probably about a dozen different providers—that .- providers willing to do that. are— providers willing to do that. art-te- providers willing to do that. art-te rt,- providers willing to do that. and do it, you're and when you do it, you're tttttre— and when you do it, you're lifting-burden- and when you do it, you're lifting burden from the lifting the burden from the ewtte— lifting the burden from the rwttte-ert- lifting the burden from the public and voluntary public sector and voluntary ereeetre— public sector and voluntary ereeetre te— public sector and voluntary choosing to more to an choosing to pay more to an alternative— choosing to pay more to an alternative resource. i think tret-e— alternative resource. i think tret-e good-— alternative resource. i think that's good. and indeed i would rretettw— that's good. and indeed i would rretettw make— that's good. and indeed i would probably make partially tax deductible.— probably make partially tax deductible. well there is that. ewt— deductible. well there is that. but met.— deductible. well there is that. but first tee. — deductible. well there is that. but first, joe, is— deductible. well there is that. but first, joe, is it— deductible. well there is that. but first, joe, is it is- deductible. well there is that. but first, joe, is it is it- deductible. well there is that. but first, joe, is it is it fair- but first, joe, is it is it fair if you've been paying taxes throughout your life for the government to encourage you to government to encourage you to go private? because arguably the nhs has been mismanaged? well there's several things to unpick in this. one is we hear all the ttme— in this. one is we hear all the ttme tret— in this. one is we hear all the time that gps— in this. one is we hear all the time that gps are— " one is we hear all the time that gps are overworked, under—resourced— time that gps are overworked, under—resourced ,_ time that gps are overworked, under—resourced , and the burden under—resourced, and the burden on under—resourced, and the burden er trem— under—resourced, and the burden er trem te— under—resourced, and the burden on them is absolutely massive. so on them is absolutely massive. se treee— on them is absolutely massive. se treee ers— on them is absolutely massive. so those gps who've decided to werk— so those gps who've decided to werk tr— so those gps who've decided to work in private— so those gps who've decided to work in private practise as you krew— work in private practise as you krew, mewte— work in private practise as you know, maybe there's a question i tert— know, maybe there's a question i ter-t r— know, maybe there's a question i ter-t r krew— know, maybe there's a question i don't i know we're— know, maybe there's a question i don't i know we're not going to tetk— don't i know we're not going to tetk etewt— don't i know we're not going to talk about the— don't i know we're not going to talk about the bma strike and all talk about the bma strike and at tret— talk about the bma strike and all that stuff,— talk about the bma strike and all that stuff, but maybe tree-e— all that stuff, but maybe trere-e e— all that stuff, but maybe there's a way— all that stuff, but maybe there's a way that you say to reerte— there's a way that you say to peopler rert— there's a way that you say to peopler right if— there's a way that you say to people, right, if you are sent to people, right, if you are sent te metteet— people, right, if you are sent to medical school, which is teeteettw— to medical school, which is

basically funded us, you have basically funded by us, you have to basically funded by us, you have te-te— basically funded by us, you have te-te-ter- basically funded by us, you have te-te-ter e- to commit to working for a eertetr— to commit to working for a certain number— to commit to working for a certain number of years within the certain number of years within tre ars— certain number of years within the nhs before— certain number of years within the nhs before you go private. so the nhs before you go private. se tret-e— the nhs before you go private. se tret-e ere— the nhs before you go private. so that's one thing. so, you krew— so that's one thing. so, you know, whilst— so that's one thing. so, you know, whilst you- so that's one thing. so, you know, whilst you can say we if we paying— know, whilst you can say we if we were paying for it, are tektre— we were paying for it, are trktrg awry— we were paying for it, are taking away three people off a warmer— taking away three people off a wetttre aret— taking away three people off a waiting list, the— taking away three people off a waiting list, the person who's seeme— waiting list, the person who's eeetre we— waiting list, the person who's seeing us isn't— waiting list, the person who's seeing us isn't seeing the reerte— seeing us isn't seeing the reerte wre— seeing us isn't seeing the people who are still on the way. so people who are still on the way. so wew-t— people who are still on the way. se wew-t sav— people who are still on the way. se wew-t say te— people who are still on the way. so you'd say to the— people who are still on the way. so you'd say to the doctor- people who are still on the way. so you'd say to the doctor as as they graduate, you can't go to australia for at least not australia. you can't go work privately done privately until you've done seven in the nhs . but seven years in the nhs. but australians go off to australia. it's a reasonable comparison. yeah, yeah. but i go off to australia. no, you can't australia. no, you, you can't reve— australia. no, you, you can't rewe tt— australia. no, you, you can't rewe tt ewew— australia. no, you, you can't have it every way. - no, you, you can't have it every way. yeah. and i trtrk— have it every way. yeah. and i trtrk tre— have it every way. yeah. and i think the nhs— have it every way. yeah. and i think the nhs is— have it every way. yeah. and i think the nhs is in such a fundamental— think the nhs is in such a fundamental mess through two weere— fundamental mess through two weere et— fundamental mess through two years of austerity— fundamental mess through two years of austerity years of mismanagement, years of targets rttrer— mismanagement, years of targets rttrer ert— mismanagement, years of targets rttrer ert wer— mismanagement, years of targets rttrer ert wer .— mismanagement, years of targets hither and yon , and it's sort of hither and yon, and it's sort of teet— hither and yon, and it's sort of test trek— hither and yon, and it's sort of lost track of— hither and yon, and it's sort of lost track of what— hither and yon, and it's sort of lost track of what it's for. and i lost track of what it's for. and r trtrk— lost track of what it's for. and i think until— lost track of what it's for. and i think until we— lost track of what it's for. and i think until we have a government- i think until we have a government or a cross party group— government or a cross party 9roup et— government or a cross party 9roup of pewte— government or a cross party group of people who are prepared to group of people who are prepared te ert— group of people who are prepared te ett tewr— group of people who are prepared to sit down and— group of people who are prepared to sit down and say, right, what is to sit down and say, right, what te tt— to sit down and say, right, what te tt tert— to sit down and say, right, what te tt tere rer— to sit down and say, right, what is it for? for where's the bit etewt— is it for? for where's the bit rtewt rrtmrrw— is it for? for where's the bit about primary care? where's the

bit about primary care? where's the ttt etewt— about primary care? where's the bit about preventative care, wrere-e— bit about preventative care, wrere-e tre— bit about preventative care, where's the bit— bit about preventative care, where's the bit about tackling eteettwe— where's the bit about tackling eteettwe kew — where's the bit about tackling obesity? you know, we've got a reeert— obesity? you know, we've got a record number— obesity? you know, we've got a record number of— obesity? you know, we've got a record number of people with ttrite— record number of people with twee twe— record number of people with type two diabetes. most of that is type two diabetes. most of that te rewerettte— type two diabetes. most of that is reversible and— type two diabetes. most of that is reversible and most of that is reversible and most of that te teeewee— is reversible and most of that is because of— is reversible and most of that is because of bad— is reversible and most of that is because of bad diets. now, et— is because of bad diets. now, et tret— is because of bad diets. now, some of that will— is because of bad diets. now, some of that will be to do with rewertw— some of that will be to do with rewertw ter— some of that will be to do with poverty for sure, _ some of that will be to do with poverty for sure, but a lot of it poverty for sure, but a lot of tt te— poverty for sure, but a lot of tt te te— poverty for sure, but a lot of tt te te te— poverty for sure, but a lot of it is to do with— poverty for sure, but a lot of it is to do with lifestyle ereter.— it is to do with lifestyle choices. so,— it is to do with lifestyle choices. so, you know, you can't reve— choices. so, you know, you can't rewe tt— choices. so, you know, you can't rewe tt ewerw— choices. so, you know, you can't have it every which— choices. so, you know, you can't have it every which way. no, you err-t— have it every which way. no, you err-t .— have it every which way. no, you err-t . art— have it every which way. no, you err-t . art tre— have it every which way. no, you can't . and the thing that can't. and the thing that i trtrk— can't. and the thing that i trtrk te— can't. and the thing that i trtrk te werw— can't. and the thing that i think is very interesting, which has think is very interesting, which rre happened— think is very interesting, which rre happened e— think is very interesting, which has happened a the last has happened a lot in the last rew— has happened a lot in the last tew-te— has happened a lot in the last tew-te tret— has happened a lot in the last few-is that the- has happened a lot in the last few is that the nhs is few years, is that the nhs is rew-ertwete — few years, is that the nhs is now private hospital now using private hospital teetttttee— now using private hospital teetttttee .— now using private hospital facilities , batus, which is facilities, batus, which is rwrrwtre— facilities, batus, which is hurrying upr— facilities, batus, which is hurrying up, you know, fairly straightforward _ hurrying up, you know, fairly straightforward things like eetereet— straightforward things like cataract operations, for treteree— cataract operations, for treteree .— cataract operations, for instance . now that seems to me instance. now that seems to me to instance. now that seems to me te te— instance. now that seems to me te te ewtte— instance. now that seems to me te te ewtte e— instance. now that seems to me to be quite a sensible partnership. " to be quite a sensible- partnership. this is something the labour party is, is, is now comfortable with too. if you've seen their recent messaging, they to that's good they seem to think that's a good way of cutting down the waiting list. they are for now, for now. but know, but you but you know, but you can believe it you've got believe it if you've got a hospital now and certainly near where live, know, there's where i live, you know, there's a hospital virtually a private hospital virtually within of the nhs within the grounds of the nhs hospital. if go privately, hospital. if you go privately,

wew-tt— hospital. if you go privately, you'll-operation . hospital. if you go privately, you'll-operation in you'll have your operation in tre— you'll have your operation in tre-reenter,— you'll have your operation in the hospital, you'll the nhs hospital, but you'll trer— the nhs hospital, but you'll then-recover- the nhs hospital, but you'll then-recover for- the nhs hospital, but you'll then recover for your then go and recover for your convalescence, _ then go and recover for your convalescence, your convalescence, your convalescence , and crucially, convalescence, and crucially, wew-tt— convalescence, and crucially, wew-tt-wewr— convalescence, and crucially, you'll your treatment you'll get your treatment ewteker. — you'll get your treatment quicker. .that- you'll get your treatment quicker. .that is- you'll get your treatment quicker. you'll get your treatment- quicker. .that is why people quicker. and that is why people are going privately. but i'm interested, ed, in the i think there are a lot of people who feel like they've done the right thing all their lives as they've worked hard. they've paid their taxes and now for a service that they have contributed or feel like they've contributed to so much to almost be encouraged not to now use it. i understand that.is to now use it. i understand that. is that fair ? i understand that. is that fair? i understand tret— that. is that fair? i understand that frustration.— that. is that fair? i understand that frustration. but— 7 i understand that frustration. but there inn, — that frustration. but there inn, et— that frustration. but there will, of course,- that frustration. but there will, of course, be people who wit— will, of course, be people who wttt teet— will, of course, be people who will feel exactly— will, of course, be people who will feel exactly the that will feel exactly the same that trew-we — will feel exactly the same that. they've _contributions they've made their contributions but they've made their contributions twt err-t— they've made their contributions but can't-whatever- they've made their contributions but can't whatever reason , but can't for whatever reason, ettert — but can't for whatever reason, ettert te — but can't for whatever reason, ettert te 90 — but can't for whatever reason, afford to go private , who need afford to go private, who need to afford to go private, who need te see— afford to go private, who need te tretr— afford to go private, who need to see their gp— afford to go private, who need to see their gp through the ewtte— to see their gp through the public system— to see their gp through the public system more quickly, and etrere— public system more quickly, and etrere tektre— public system more quickly, and others taking themselves out of wet— others taking themselves out of tret te— others taking themselves out of tret te retr— others taking themselves out of that to help that. _ others taking themselves out of that to help that. so actually it that to help that. so actually tt ewtt— that to help that. so actually tt ewte tetr— that to help that. so actually it cuts both ways. i think , in it cuts both ways. i think, in tre— it cuts both ways. i think, in tre wew— it cuts both ways. i think, in tre wew tret— it cuts both ways. i think, in the way that you've put it and met— the way that you've put it and twet ere— the way that you've put it and twet wme— the way that you've put it and just one thing, it's not a zero etme— just one thing, it's not a zero sum game about— just one thing, it's not a zero sum game about doctors choosing to sum game about doctors choosing te werk.— sum game about doctors choosing te werk. art— sum game about doctors choosing to work. and bear— sum game about doctors choosing to work. and bear in— sum game about doctors choosing to work. and bear in mind, gps are to work. and bear in mind, gps ere-emete— to work. and bear in mind, gps are-private sector,- to work. and bear in mind, gps are private sector, they're are all private sector, they're all are all private sector, they're at trew-re— are all private sector, they're all they're all— are all private sector, they're all they're all they're not

emrtewet— all they're all they're not employed by— all they're all they're not employed by. so people forget met.— employed by. so people forget met-tek— employed by. so people forget that.-talk-the| that. and they talk about the ars— that. and they talk about the wws-trew-re— that. and they talk about the nhs-they're all- that. and they talk about the nhs they're all public nhs as if they're all public teete— nhs as if they're all public teeter-rer - nhs as if they're all public sector not. they're nhs as if they're all public- sector-not. they're run sector gps are not. they're run ttke— sector gps are not. they're run like-businesses,- sector gps are not. they're run like businesses, always like little businesses, always teer— like little businesses, always been - private - like little businesses, always been private sector and been in the private sector and you— been in the private sector and wew eer— been in the private sector and wew te— been in the private sector and wew te r— been in the private sector and you can be a doctor and come to mm— you can be a doctor and come to mm eewrtrw— you can be a doctor and come to mm eewrtrw-tr- you can be a doctor and come to this country-in our- this country to work in our rrtwete— this country to work in our private health— this country to work in our private health care system. we all private health care system. we at trtrk— private health care system. we all think it's— private health care system. we all think it's just— private health care system. we all think it's just a brain trem— all think it's just a brain trem terre— all think it's just a brain drain going another way. but eetwettw— drain going another way. but actually . attract- drain going another way. but actually attract talent to actually we attract talent to werk— actually we attract talent to werk-emete - work in our private sector ewetem — work in our private sector ewetem .eeme- work in our private sector system some that not system and some of that not a mere— system and some of that not a rwee-twt— system and some of that not a rwee-twt re- system and some of that not al huge-but some .that huge amount, but some of that wit— huge amount, but some of that wit-terre— huge amount, but some of that will-doing private- huge amount, but some of that will doing private gp will be doing private gp eerwteee— will be doing private gp services. and— will be doing private gp services. and so the more we ereewreee tret— services. and so the more we encourage that facilitate encourage that and facilitate ma,— encourage that and facilitate met—e- encourage that and facilitate that, _ a little| encourage that and facilitate. that,_a little of that, we can reverse a little of tre— that, we can reverse a little of tre metr— that, we can reverse a little of the brain drain.— that, we can reverse a little of the brain drain. and that's a 900d_ the brain drain. and that's a. weee—etewtt the brain drain. and that's a- eeet—etewtt we good thing too. well, should we make private health care tax deductible in some because make private health care tax dediarejle in some because make private health care tax dediare alleviating because make private health care tax dediare alleviating pressure, use make private health care tax dedi shouldtviating pressure, use make private health care tax dedi should you ng pressure, use make private health care tax dedi should you have essure, use make private health care tax dedi should you have to ;ure, use make private health care tax dedi should you have to pay?ise why should you have to pay? because then more and more because then more, more and more because you're then benefiting twice you're then in danger twice and you're then in danger of facilitating a real two tier system. imean, of facilitating a real two tier system. i mean, look what's happening— system. i mean, look what's happening rt— system. i mean, look what's happening at the— if; i mean, look what's happening at the moment. �*vw�*rz; happening at the moment. we have a happening at the moment. we have r-tter— happening at the moment. we have r-tter swetem. — happening at the moment. we have r-tter swetem. we— happening at the moment. we have a tier system. we don't a two tier system. we don't we've got a pile of we've got we've got a pile of waiting going. you know, waiting lists going. you know, up a waiting lists going. you know, wrle mewrtetr— waiting lists going. you know, up.a mountain that-not. up as a mountain that is not going— up as a mountain that is not going te— up as a mountain that is not going to reduced. the problem going to be reduced. the problem that going to be reduced. the problem tret wret— going to be reduced. the problem tret wret ree— going to be reduced. the problem that what has happened with terttetrw— that what has happened with terttetrw .— that what has happened with dentistry , where it's almost dentistry, where it's almost tmreeettte— dentistry, where it's almost impossible in— dentistry, where it's almost impossible in some parts of the eewrtrw— impossible in some parts of the eewrtrw te— impossible in some parts of the eewrtrw te ttrt— impossible in some parts of the country to find an— impossible in some parts of the country to find an nhs dentist

ert— country to find an nhs dentist ert wetttre— country to find an nhs dentist and waiting lists— country to find an nhs dentist and waiting lists for private terttete— and waiting lists for private dentists are _ and waiting lists for private dentists are very, very long as wet.— dentists are very, very long as wet se,— dentists are very, very long as wet se, wew— dentists are very, very long as well. so, you know, you've got to well. so, you know, you've got te mereee— well. so, you know, you've got te mereee rt,— well. so, you know, you've got to manage it, you— well. so, you know, you've got to manage it, you know, because if to manage it, you know, because tt wew— to manage it, you know, because if you fundamentally believe me— if you fundamentally believe me we— if you fundamentally believe that we have— if you fundamentally believe that we have a— if you fundamentally believe that we have a national health eerwtee— that we have a national health eerwtee ewetem— that we have a national health service system as— that we have a national health service system as available to ewerwtetw— service system as available to ewerwtetw tr— service system as available to everybody in the— service system as available to everybody in the ethos of how it termed— everybody in the ethos of how it was formed and— everybody in the ethos of how it was formed and founded, but then you was formed and founded, but then wew reve— was formed and founded, but then wew rewe te— was formed and founded, but then you have to make— was formed and founded, but then you have to make some really tewer— you have to make some really tough decisions— you have to make some really tough decisions and that's where it tough decisions and that's where tt ert— tough decisions and that's where tt ett eeee— tough decisions and that's where it all goes wrong— tough decisions and that's where it all goes wrong . _ tough decisions and that's where it all goes wrong . it all goes wrong. that that eeree— it all goes wrong. that that ethos and that belief can be absolutely compatible with the kind of relief you're kind of relief that you're talking about. never suggested talking about. i never suggested it should be completely tax deductible. well, know, deductible. well, you know, these to get these things, if you want to get treatment more quickly and you want to pay it, it should be want to pay for it, it should be it shouldn't completely tax it shouldn't be completely tax deductible. point is deductible. and but my point is the way, very small the other way, even a very small incentive, the state returning 5 or 10% of that money to you would see an explosion in private sector provision, which is not to the detriment of the nhs. so fairthough, it? nhs. so fair though, isn't it? reeewee—eetti nhs. so fair though, isn't it?- because_paid your because you've already paid your tekee— because you've already paid your tekee-ewetem- because you've already paid your taxes-system that- taxes towards a system that wew-e— taxes towards a system that wewre trer— taxes towards a system that you're then not— taxes towards a system that you're then not using? yes, i krew— you're then not using? yes, i krew, ewt— you're then not using? yes, i krew, twt r— you're then not using? yes, i know, but i mean- you're then not using? yes, i know, but i mean lots of people pay— know, but i mean lots of people pay tekee— know, but i mean lots of people pay tekee ter— know, but i mean lots of people pay taxes for things that they

tert— pay taxes for things that they ter-t — pay taxes for things that they don't use. know— pay taxes for things that they don't use. r:r:::r" e don't use. know people don't have children. but then some reeete— have children. but then some reerte trtrk— have children. but then some people think private- rt r: ”cl" but then some people think private school fees erewtt—twtl should be tax deductible, but etrere— should be tax deductible, buti others—agree. others obviously don't agree. but,— others obviously don't agree. rut-knew.— others obviously don't agree. but,-know, that's- others obviously don't agree. but, .know, that's there's. but, you know, that's there's a perfectly good analogy. you know, to do it know, if you're going to do it for health care, why for private health care, why wouldn't for private, wouldn't you do it for private, private school? do tax private school? we do tax deducted. yeah, well, the charitable _ deducted. yeah, well, the charitable status- deducted. yeah, well, the charitable status ,- ::t: yeah, well, the charitable status , but not for charitable status, but not for tre— charitable status, but not for tre streets,— charitable status, but not for the schools, _the - the schools, not for the individual. _ the schools, not for the individual. o" the schools, not for the- individual. oh, i see what you mean. but mean, the only mean. yeah, but i mean, the only way that would, think way that that would, i think would palatable to a of would be palatable to a lot of people, including be people, including me, would be if hypothecated that if you then hypothecated that somehow other it's not that somehow or other it's not that hard. lots countries do. hard. lots of countries do. veer. — hard. lots of countries do. yeah. _health- hard. lots of countries do. yeah.-health care. hard. lots of countries do.- yeah.-health care. most yeah. through health care. most of yeah. through health care. most et ewt— yeah. through health care. most of our neighbours— yeah. through health care. most of our neighbours do. most of tre— of our neighbours do. most of the anglosphere_ of our neighbours do. most of the anglosphere does, know. the anglosphere does, you know. art— the anglosphere does, you know. and—inevitable - and of course the inevitable emete— and of course the inevitable comparison we— and of course the inevitable comparison we always get is, oh, and of course the inevitable comwant)n we always get is, oh, and of course the inevitable comwant us we always get is, oh, and of course the inevitable comwant us to always get is, oh, and of course the inevitable comwant us to alvlike get is, oh, and of course the inevitable comwant us to alvlike american? you want us to be like american? no, you want us to be like american? welrewe— you want us to be like american? welrewe te— you want us to be like american? welrewe te te— you want us to be like american? no,.have to be rich.- no, we have to be rich. etrerwtee— no, we have to be rich. otherwise _youj no, we have to be rich.- otherwise _you you otherwise you die. you you eewtt. — otherwise you die. you you eewtt. rew— otherwise you die. you you could. you could- otherwise you die. you you could. v/rzzr. t: l otherwise you die. you you- could. you could be like france . yes, exactly. which works perfectly well, well and perfectly well, well and perfectly . but it also perfectly fairly. but it also puts a huge onus on people. so if you're going into hospital in france to an operation, then let's say you're having an operation on your lungs. they won't touch you unless they know

that you're fit. you're healthy, you're going to follow through with the aftercare, whether it's, you know , physiotherapy or it's, you know, physiotherapy or exercise or whatever . and exercise or whatever. and they're much more rigorous about doing that. that's interesting because it takes it back to your point about diabetes so point about diabetes and so forth. because nhs was forth. because when the nhs was tewrtet— forth. because when the nhs was tewrtet, tt— forth. because when the nhs was founded, it had— forth. because when the nhs was founded, it had a— because when the nhs was founded, it had a dual mission. it founded, it had a dual mission. rt we— founded, it had a dual mission. rt te— founded, it had a dual mission. it was to heal— founded, it had a dual mission. it was to heal the— founded, it had a dual mission. it was to heal the nation and keep— it was to heal the nation and keep-retter— it was to heal the nation and keep-nation fit- it was to heal the nation and keep nation fit and healthy, keep the nation fit and healthy, keep—wett- keep the nation fit and healthy, keep—wat, ertl keep in the nation well, and met— keep in the nation well, and that-naturally,- keep in the nation well, and that naturally, the focus that latter naturally, the focus eeee— that latter naturally, the focus eeeeltrwtre— that latter naturally, the focus eeeeltrwtrelewre- that latter naturally, the focus goes trying cure people of goes on trying to cure people of eerttttere— goes on trying to cure people of conditions and— goes on trying to cure people of conditions and treat their trtwrtee. — conditions and treat their. injuries. _those conditions and treat their- injuries. _those we injuries. how many of those we tereet— injuries. how many of those we forget preventable. we forget that preventable. we tereet— forget that preventable. we forget - mission . forget that preventable. we . forget - mission that forget that preventable. we forgnhs mission that forget that preventable. we forgnhs is mission that forget that preventable. we forgnhs is supposedsion that forget that preventable. we forgnhs is supposed;iorhave. the nhs is supposed to have. wett— the nhs is supposed to have. werk-ret— the nhs is supposed to have. well,-not sure— the nhs is supposed to have. well,-not sure how- the nhs is supposed to have. well,-not sure how you. the nhs is supposed to have. i well,-not sure how you how well, i'm not sure how you how you how you make people treat themselves better. well, i mean, it's the whole conversation about public health, you about whether public health, you know, campaigns i'm not necessarily endorsing it all. necessarily endorsing it at all. i'm just simply saying there's a lot i'm just simply saying there's a tetlreerte. — i'm just simply saying there's a lot-people. but— i'm just simply saying there's a lot people. rt. i'm just simply saying there's a lot people. rt lot of people. but public health is that. it's public is exactly that. it's public health. and it comes down to everything, including the state health. and it comes down to ev ourhing, including the state health. and it comes down to ev our rivers ncluding the state health. and it comes down to ev our rivers and ding the state health. and it comes down to ev our rivers and ding seas state health. and it comes down to ev our rivers and ding seas . ate health. and it comes down to ev our rivers and ding seas . you of our rivers and our seas. you know, you're pumping raw know, if you're pumping raw sewage waterways, if you're sewage into waterways, if you're allowing chemicals and things to go the water, that's going go into the water, that's going to have an effect on a lot of

the time, comes down to sort the time, it comes down to sort of trying to make pockets of cnsps of trying to make pockets of crisps smaller or banning sugar or i crisps smaller or banning sugar ori can crisps smaller or banning sugar or i can tell you notes of cnsps or i can tell you notes of crisps are small. they are crewma— crisps are small. they are changing, certainly- they are changing, certainly are changing the-chocolate- changing, certainly are changing the chocolate bars, the recipes in chocolate bars, ttrw— the recipes in chocolate bars, ttrw rerwter— the recipes in chocolate bars, tiny popular creams over the tiny popular ice creams over the teeetee— tiny popular ice creams over the teeetee .— tiny popular ice creams over the decades , taking— tiny popular ice creams over the decades , taking sugar out of decades, taking the sugar out of rr—rrw. — decades, taking the sugar out of rr—rrw. r— decades, taking the sugar out of irn—bru. i mean,— decades, taking the sugar out of irn—bru. i mean, i— decades, taking the sugar out of irn—bru. i mean, i don't think treee— irn—bru. i mean, i don't think treee trtree— irn—bru. i mean, i don't think these things make much of a ttttereree. — these things make much of a difference. that's- these things make much of a difference. t difference. that's a perfectly good point, emily. you know, things that are stating the bleeding obvious do we still bleeding obvious why do we still have is it have an argument and why is it only that companies say, oh, only now that companies say, oh, with reduced sugar reduced with reduced sugar or reduced salt or this the price the same? yeah well, let's let's get yeah well, yes, let's let's get a of views before we move a couple of views before we move on to next topic. marjorie on to our next topic. marjorie agrees on to our next topic. marjorie eeee wttr— on to our next topic. marjorie agrees with alex. _ on to our next topic. marjorie agrees with alex. she - lift" , "ttke rt. marjorie agrees with alex. she says lift" . "ck. rt. marjorie agrees with alex. she says if a rereer— agrees with alex. she says if a person uses private health care, trew— person uses private health care, trew erewtt— person uses private health care, they should be— person uses private health care, they should be able to deduct they should be able to deduct tre rremtwm— they should be able to deduct the premium their tax. i the premium from their tax. i trtrk— the premium from their tax. i trtrk tree— the premium from their tax. i think there is— the premium from their tax. i think there is clear there is think there is a clear there is a think there is a clear there is e eteer— think there is a clear there is e eteer teete— think there is a clear there is a clear logic to— think there is a clear there is a clear logic to one, brett a clear logic to that one, brett eewe— a clear logic to that one, brett eewe. ae— a clear logic to that one, brett eewe. ae e— a clear logic to that one, brett eewe. ae e twe— a clear logic to that one, brett says. as a bus driver, i had to eter— says. as a bus driver, i had to eter er— says. as a bus driver, i had to sign an agreement that they wewtt— sign an agreement that they wewtt-tre- sign an agreement that they would the driver would pay for the driver tretrtre— would pay for the driver tretrtre-r- would pay for the driver training, i left before training, but if i left before twe— training, but if i left before two-service,- training, but if i left before two-service, i- training, but if i left before two service, i would pay two years service, i would pay reek— two years service, i would pay reek-et— two years service, i would pay back-of training- two years service, i would pay back of training loads back the cost of training loads of back the cost of training loads et-ttke— back the cost of training loads et-ttke-a- back the cost of training loads et-ttke-a eeeti of examples like that. a good ttee— of examples like that. a good tree-entw— of examples like that. a good tteelerrtw e— of examples like that. a good idea apply a similar system idea to apply a similar system to idea to apply a similar system te-e— idea to apply a similar system te-e veer.— idea to apply a similar system to-? yeah,iwould. -

to doctors? yeah, i would. ateetwtetw. — to doctors? yeah, i would. absolutely. there you go. let's get-2— absolutely. there you go. let's eet-z mere— absolutely. there you go. let's get-2 more. chris- absolutely. there you go. let's get 2 more. chris said. i'd get 1 or 2 more. chris said. i'd be happy— get 1 or 2 more. chris said. i'd be happy-90— get 1 or 2 more. chris said. i'd be happy go private, but i be happy to go private, but i wewtt— be happy to go private, but i wewe-rewe— be happy to go private, but i would-havelpay- be happy to go private, but i would have pay for the would also have to pay for the reettr— would also have to pay for the reettr-et— would also have to pay for the health-of people- would also have to pay for the health of people who have health care of people who have more poorer choices life than health care of people who have morlthat'str choices life than health care of people who have morlthat's true. ices life than health care of people who have morlthat's true. you life than health care of people who have morlthat's true. you do .ife than health care of people who have morlthat's true. you do pay han me. that's true. you do pay twee.— me. that's true. you do pay twtee. tr— me. that's true. you do pay twice. in .case,- me. that's true. you do pay twice. in .case, if- me. that's true. you do pay twice. in case, if you twice. in that case, if you eewrt— twice. in that case, if you eewrt wewr— twice. in that case, if you count your taxes as paying for it count your taxes as paying for tt trtttettw— count your taxes as paying for it initially, cyril— count your taxes as paying for it initially, cyril says if reerte— it initially, cyril says if. reerte—te people start switching to rrtwete— people start switching to emete—- people start switching to private—r ttl people start switching to. private_, it will private health care, it will ewertwettw— private health care, it will eventually become as the eventually become as bad as the rreeert— eventually become as bad as the rreeert wre— eventually become as bad as the present nhs. saying , well, present nhs. just saying, well, i present nhs. just saying, well, r-krew— present nhs. just saying, well, r-krew etewt— present nhs. just saying, well, i-know about that- present nhs. just saying, well, i know about that because i don't know about that because tree-t— i don't know about that because there'd_incentives. there'd be different incentives r_9row- there'd be different incentives r_9rbw ert- there'd be different incentivesi .—grew ert grew , so it may just grow and grow on , so it may just grow and grow er rte— , so it may just grow and grow er tte ewr— , so it may just grow and grow er tte r— , so it may just grow and grow on its own. i don't— , so it may just grow and grow on its own. i don't know . but on its own. i don't know. but reerte— on its own. i don't know. but reerte mtgrt— on its own. i don't know. but people might see— on its own. i don't know. but people might see this as a back eeer— people might see this as a back teer mte— people might see this as a back door into privatising the nhs. if door into privatising the nhs. rt wew— door into privatising the nhs. rt wew get— door into privatising the nhs. if you get pebble— door into privatising the nhs. if you get people seeing- door into privatising the nhs. if you get people seeing more quickly, get diagnoses quickly, if you get diagnoses more quickly you more quickly and you get treatment quickly, then treatment more quickly, then actually taking the actually you're taking the pressure health that actually you're taking the presstoe health that actually you're taking the pressto work health that actually you're taking the pressto work thatealth that actually you're taking the pressto work that threathat actually you're taking the pressto work that threat . 48 used to work that threat. 48 hours to save the nhs.- hours to save the nhs. there's ertw— hours to save the nhs. there's ertw ee— hours to save the nhs. there's ertw ee merw— hours to save the nhs. there's only so many times people can say— only so many times people can eew-tre— only so many times people can eew-tre tertee— only so many times people can say the tories been in say that the tories been in gewerrmert— say that the tories been in government the government 13 years. there's the ars— government 13 years. there's the wwsleertret— government 13 years. there's the nhs-central to— government 13 years. there's the nhs-central to our— government 13 years. there's the nhs central to our national nhs as central to our national ttte. — nhs as central to our national ttte. ltte— nhs as central to our national life. lit? yeah. _ nhs as central to our national life. lit? yeah. it's- nhs as central to our national life. it? yeah. e l life. is it? yeah. it's like saying there's going to be an ice age next year or the planet's going to go up in flames must move on. flames anyway. we must move on. landlords hundreds landlords apparently hundreds of thousands about thousands of them are about to or the five years going

or in the next five years going to abandon on market to abandon on the market altogether. tough on altogether. are we too tough on landlords? we do we demonise landlords? are we do we demonise them too much? stay tuned .

completely derailed the conversation. join me monday to trwretew— conversation. join me monday to trwretew et— conversation. join me monday to trwretew et 8— conversation. join me monday to trwretew et e rm.— conversation. join me monday to thursday at 8 pm. on- t" join me monday to thursday at 8 pm. on gb news. rrttetr-e— thursday at 8 pm. on gb news. britain's news— thursday at 8 pm. on gb news. britain's news .— thursday at 8 pm. on gb news. britain's news. channel thursday at 8 pm. on gb news. britain's news . channel welcome britain's news. channel welcome reek— britain's news. channel welcome teekte— britain's news. channel welcome back to dewbs&— britain's news. channel welcome back to dewbs& co— britain's news. channel welcome back to dewbs& co �*er�* ear back to dewbs& co with me, emily carver, standing in for michelle this evening. and i've got alex dean with me, political consultant, and joe phillips, political commentator , with me political commentator, with me this evening. all the way till seven now, landlords , they are seven now, landlords, they are well heading out of the business altogether. by the looks of things. over 100,000 left last year left the market. what does this mean for renters ? well, it this mean for renters? well, it certainly means that rents are going up and up. apparently, 500,000 may leave in the next five years. is this a problem ? five years. is this a problem? do you support buy to let landlords do you think they run a good business in general or do you think they're unfairly demonised ? perhaps, or perhaps

demonised? perhaps, or perhaps they bit of a kicking? they deserve a bit of a kicking? alex, i wonder what you think. do you think we demonise landlords little too much? landlords a little too much? why do flooding do you think they're flooding out the market? well, we've out of the market? well, we've tettrttetw— out of the market? well, we've definitely given _ out of the market? well, we've definitely given them- out of the market? well, we've definitely given them a- 7 well, we've definitely given them a hard ttme— definitely given them a hard ttme-metre- definitely given them a hard. time-media-recent time in the media over recent wee— time in the media over recent wee mere-e— time in the media over recent years. there's fewer, more years. there's been fewer, more rerwter— years. there's been fewer, more rerwter-tege- years. there's been fewer, more popular-bags than. popular punching bags than tertterte. — popular punching bags than landlords. .the- popular punching bags than landlords. the way that they landlords. and the way that they treet— landlords. and the way that they treet tretr— landlords. and the way that they treat their tenants. _ landlords. and the way that they treat their tenants. some treat their tenants. now, some of treat their tenants. now, some et-teeerwet.— treat their tenants. now, some of deserved. some of that is deserved. some treetmert— of that is deserved. some treatment landlord tenant treatment from landlord tenant is treatment from landlord tenant te—trere- treatment from landlord tenant te—trere erel is disgraceful. and there are eereetettw— is disgraceful. and there are especially over— is disgraceful. and there are especially over things like keertrg— especially over things like keeping deposits or withholding it keeping deposits or withholding rtre—eeere— keeping deposits or withholding it_reasons and- keeping deposits or withholding it reasons and some it for spurious reasons and some of it for spurious reasons and some et tt— it for spurious reasons and some et tt ert— it for spurious reasons and some et tt ert reerte— it for spurious reasons and some of it and people have to fight teetr— of it and people have to fight teetr ert— of it and people have to fight tooth and nail— of it and people have to fight tooth and nail for what is eteetwtetw— tooth and nail for what is absolutely their entitlement , absolutely their entitlement, ettrer— absolutely their entitlement, ettrertre— absolutely their entitlement, either the return of money or tre— either the return of money or tre wrkeer— either the return of money or tre wrkeer et— either the return of money or the upkeep of properties and so tertr. — the upkeep of properties and so tertr. -reet— the upkeep of properties and so tertr. -reet-tei forth. but we need landlords to rert— forth. but we need landlords to rert rrererttee— forth. but we need landlords to rent properties to— forth. but we need landlords to rent properties to people, eereetettw— rent properties to people, especially in— rent properties to people, especially in our current overheated _ especially in our current overheated housing market. but on overheated housing market. but er trte— overheated housing market. but er trte eterw— overheated housing market. but on this story, and— overheated housing market. but on this story, and not to take a tertrg— on this story, and not to take a tertrg ert— on this story, and not to take a boring and pragmatic, i'm not tret— boring and pragmatic, i'm not sure that the— boring and pragmatic, i'm not sure that the maths is eemrtetetw— sure that the maths is completely right because first of completely right because first et-eeme— completely right because first et-eeme et— completely right because first of-some of these- completely right because first of some of these it's not of all, some of these it's not ttke— of all, some of these it's not ttke tre— of all, some of these it's not like the properties disappear, rtgrte— like the properties disappear,l right?_landlords right? some of those landlords wttt— right? some of those landlords wttt-merertw- right? some of those landlords wttt-rrerertw te- will sell the property to someone else who then goes onto rert— someone else who then goes on to rertlewt. — someone else who then goes onto rertlewt. rte— someone else who then goes onto rentlout. it's not— someone else who then goes on to rent out. it's not going rent it out. it's not all going to rent it out. it's not all going te te— rent it out. it's not all going te te reerte— rent it out. it's not all going to be people buying it to live in to be people buying it to live tr rt.— to be people buying it to live tr tt. rete— to be people buying it to live in it. lots of— to be people buying it to live in it. lots of those properties wit— in it. lots of those properties wttt mer— in it. lots of those properties will remain buy— in it. lots of those properties will remain buy to let and some

of will remain buy to let and some et trem— will remain buy to let and some et trem-te— will remain buy to let and some of them - be the _ will remain buy to let and some of them be the landlord of them will be the landlord wttt— of them will be the landlord wttt eew— of them will be the landlord wttt eew. rm— of them will be the landlord will say, i'm retiring or i'm getttrg—geme. l will say, i'm retiring or i'm. getting-game. but getting out of the game. but rere— getting out of the game. but here-relative,- getting out of the game. but here relative, friend, here is my relative, my friend, wre-e— here is my relative, my friend, wre-e-teke- here is my relative, my friend, who's-take on- here is my relative, my friend, who's-take on the. who's going to take on the property— who's going to take on the propertwaell- - who's going to take on the property well. so it's not property as well. so it's not ewtte— property as well. so it's not ewtte-mtrt- property as well. so it's not quite,-mind the- quite, to my mind the ereeetwrtte. - quite, to my mind the apocalyptic. have no doubt apocalyptic. i have no doubt tret—trte- apocalyptic. i have no doubt- that_this number that something like this number of that something like this number et tertterte— that something like this number of landlords will— that something like this number of landlords will leave the merket— of landlords will leave the market,-doesn't- of landlords will leave the market, doesn't mean market, but it doesn't mean trew-re— market, but it doesn't mean trew-re-getrg— market, but it doesn't mean tbey're-going to- market, but it doesn't mean they're going to replaced they're not going to be replaced by they're not going to be replaced tw-tert.— they're not going to be replaced tw-tertlr— they're not going to be replaced by-land.-i mean,- they're not going to be replaced by land. i mean, there by other land. but i mean, there rewe— by other land. but i mean, there rewe reer— by other land. but i mean, there have been this— by other land. but i mean, there have been this is— by other land. but i mean, there have been this is one have been this is just one exempte— have been this is just one example et— have been this is just one example of the- have been this is just one example of the problem. “ctr; example of the problem. there rewe— example of the problem. there rewe-mew— example of the problem. there have many headlines, have been many headlines, reports the reports recently saying the number of landlords leaving, for example, they example, the capital aren't they are their droves. it are leaving in their droves. it does and we've seen rents does seem and we've seen rents in london going up by about 20. the country up the rest of the country up double figures as well. 11% is the average age. i mean , if you the average age. i mean, if you have fewer properties available , then of course, rents will go up. well and mortgages have gone up. yes. obviously and a lot of treee— up. yes. obviously and a lot of treee reerte— up. yes. obviously and a lot of these people who— l. yes. obviously and a lot of these people who are getting out are these people who are getting out reerte— these people who are getting out are people who've— these people who are getting out are people who've got properties buy are people who've got properties tww te— are people who've got properties tww te tet— are people who've got properties buy to let mortgages and they are now retiring— buy to let mortgages and they are now retiring .— buy to let mortgages and they are now retiring . they probably are now retiring. they probably tert— are now retiring. they probably ter-t reet— are now retiring. they probably don't need that— are now retiring. they probably don't need that income or they wert— don't need that income or they wert te— don't need that income or they want to liquidate— don't need that income or they want to liquidate some of their twrte— want to liquidate some of their twrte. ewt— want to liquidate some of their twrte. rwt wew— want to liquidate some of their funds. but you know, where are treee— funds. but you know, where are treee reweee— funds. but you know, where are

those houses going to go to? as atek— those houses going to go to? as atek eewe— those houses going to go to? as atek eewe. rew— those houses going to go to? as alex says, now, it— those houses going to go to? as alex says, now, it may be that trew— alex says, now, it may be that trew ge— alex says, now, it may be that trew ge reek— alex says, now, it may be that trew ge reek er— alex says, now, it may be that they go back on the rental merket— they go back on the rental merket er— they go back on the rental market or do— they go back on the rental market or do they become for eete.— market or do they become for eete. tre— market or do they become for sale. the problem is that there is sale. the problem is that there te e— sale. the problem is that there te e rwge— sale. the problem is that there is a huge shortage of long term rertete— is a huge shortage of long term rertete .— is a huge shortage of long term rentals . people— is a huge shortage of long term rentals . people are moving out rentals. people are moving out of rentals. people are moving out et rerter— rentals. people are moving out et terter .— rentals. people are moving out of london , families are moving of london, families are moving out of london, families are moving ewt et— of london, families are moving out of london— of london, families are moving out of london .— of london, families are moving out of london . it's— of london, families are moving out of london . it's unbelievably out of london. it's unbelievably ereretwe— out of london. it's unbelievably ereretwe ter— out of london. it's unbelievably expensive for young single reerte— expensive for young single reerte .— expensive for young single reerte . weer.— expensive for young single people . yeah. to rent anywhere people. yeah. to rent anywhere ert— people. yeah. to rent anywhere ert wew— people. yeah. to rent anywhere ert wew ert— people. yeah. to rent anywhere ert wew ert wr— people. yeah. to rent anywhere and you end up in— people. yeah. to rent anywhere and you end up in a flat share, wmer— and you end up in a flat share, wrter te— and you end up in a flat share, which is probably— and you end up in a flat share, which is probably fine when wewre— which is probably fine when wew-re 20,— which is probably fine when wew-re 20. ewt— which is probably fine when you're 20, but not so much fun wrer— you're 20, but not so much fun wrer wewe— you're 20, but not so much fun wrer wew-re eo— you're 20, but not so much fun when you're 30 and fine when you tert— when you're 30 and fine when you ter-t rewe— when you're 30 and fine when you don't have kids— when you're 30 and fine when you don't have kids .— when you're 30 and fine when you don't have kids . less when you're 30 and fine when you don't have kids. less fun when you're 30 and fine when you don't have kids . less fun when don't have kids. less fun when you— don't have kids. less fun when wew te— don't have kids. less fun when wew te rewe— don't have kids. less fun when wew te rewe er— don't have kids. less fun when you do have or you— don't have kids. less fun when you do have or you know, all of treee— you do have or you know, all of treee eerte— you do have or you know, all of those sorts of— you do have or you know, all of those sorts of things. so trere-e— those sorts of things. so trere-e e— those sorts of things. so there's a churn, as has always reer— there's a churn, as has always teer tre— there's a churn, as has always been the case.— there's a churn, as has always been the case. but i think it's teeme— been the case. but i think it's teem mwer— been the case. but i think it's become much more marked partly ere— become much more marked partly cowe— become much more marked partly since covm, but— become much more marked partly since covid, but also what this trer— since covid, but also what this trer tre— since covid, but also what this then the effect— since covid, but also what this then the effect that this has is ttgger— then the effect that this has is ttgger trer— then the effect that this has is bigger than the— then the effect that this has is bigger than the housing market. in bigger than the housing market. rr temtett— bigger than the housing market. in lambeth, for— bigger than the housing market. in lambeth, for instance, trew-re— in lambeth, for instance, they're closed - in lambeth, for instance, they're closed long. a school tret-e— they're closed long. a school tret-e teer— they're closed long. a school that's been there— they're closed long. a school that's been there since 1600 and eemetrtrg— that's been there since 1600 and eemetrtrg er— that's been there since 1600 and something or other— that's been there since 1600 and something or other schools emergtrg— something or other schools emerging because there aren't erewgr— emerging because there aren't enough children— emerging because there aren't enough children to warrant keettrg— enough children to warrant keeping schools. so that is ewtte— keeping schools. so that is quite extraordinary. i would never have expected schools , never have expected schools, primary schools to be closing

erg because they haven't got enough kids in our capital. yeah, because i see kids everywhere. clearly they aren't. it does happen , of course, as it does happen, of course, as areas some areas have are overpopulated because compared to where they were before, in some areas are depopulated. but the basic problem is more- 3: but the basic problem is more basic teete— the basic problem is more basic teete. tre— the basic problem is more basic basic. the real— the basic problem is more basic basic. the real problem tewtetegw— basic. the real problem tautology. the real problem is we tert— tautology. the real problem is we don't build— tautology. the real problem is we don't build enough houses. ttgtt— we don't build enough houses. ttgrt. art— we don't build enough houses. right. and that's— we don't build enough houses. right. and that's been true. met-e— right. and that's been true. tret-e trwe— right. and that's been true. that's true of— right. and that's been true. that's true of all political rewee.— that's true of all political terttee. et— that's true of all political parties, of all— that's true of all political parties, of all stripes and ewerw— parties, of all stripes and every political- parties, of all stripes and every political grouping has teer— every political grouping has teer gwtttw— every political grouping has been guilty-it— every political grouping has been guilty it at least since been guilty of it at least since the been guilty of it at least since tre ktkkt— been guilty of it at least since the rikki neave_ been guilty of it at least since the rikki neave building the the rikki neave not building the rtgrt— the rikki neave not building the rtgrt reweee. — the rikki neave not building the right houses. alex— the rikki neave not building the right houses. nix “ right houses. alex i mean, you know, there are swathes of development across the south—east and many of those are being bought off. plan and they're and they're quickly going out for rent. so, you know , you're taking you say there are swathes, but in the end, governments of every stripe have missed the target for house building pretty much building in pretty much every single but there other single year. but there are other ways providing housing. so in ways of providing housing. so in city centres where the heart's been ripped out of the retail sector, for instance, in imaginative mixed use, mixed use

, imaginative mixed use, mixed use i , imaginative mixed use, mixed use , i agree. you know, flats and apartments over shops, you would then bring back to life butchers and bakers and probably not candlestick makers, but you would actually get a community. you'd probably get mixed communities instead of, you know, there are swathes of the country. why are we repeating ourselves? but i think landlord is i mean, to go back to the issue of landlord leaving the market you know market and deciding, you know what, it's worth my what, well, it's not worth my time to buy a load of people, i'm not so because i'm not so sure because apparently people retiring . apparently people are retiring. ing but then there aren't ing yes, but then there aren't wewrger— ing yes, but then there aren't wewrger-tet— ing yes, but then there aren't younger let landlords younger buy to let landlords eemtrg. — younger buy to let landlords coming. they're— younger buy to let landlords coming. “er ”iii: stir: younger buy to let landlords coming. “rig ”iii: "r“rii "r:i coming. they're all there are going be there's always going to be some there's always going to be some there's always going some. no, hang going to be some. no, but hang on. going to be some. no, but hang rt— going to be some. no, but hang rt-teek— going to be some. no, but hang rt-teek et— going to be some. no, but hang on. if-look at what- grir “g no, but hang on. if look at what people on. if you look at what people eeer-t— on. if you look at what people ere-ertlrewe- on. if you look at what people are - and i have read . on. if you look at what people are and have read quite are saying and i have read quite are saying and i have read quite e tet— are saying and i have read quite e tet etewt— are saying and i have read quite a lot about how— are saying and i have read quite a lot about how landlords are teettrg— a lot about how landlords are feeling-moment- a lot about how landlords are feeling moment and they a lot about how landlords are fee|sick moment and they a lot about how landlords are fee|sick and moment and they a lot about how landlords are fee|sick and tiredment and they a lot about how landlords are fee|sick and tired of nt and they a lot about how landlords are fee|sick and tired of morej they a lot about how landlords are fee|sick and tired of more redey are sick and tired of more red tete. — are sick and tired of more red tete. _trere— are sick and tired of more red tape. more legislation. an tape. sure. more legislation. an eertwetrg— tape. sure. more legislation. an eertwetrglte— tape. sure. more legislation. an confusing. be confused if confusing. i'd be confused if i was a landlord— confusing. i'd be confused if i was a landlord at— confusing. i'd be confused if i was a landlord at the moment teeee— was a landlord at the moment teeee wew— was a landlord at the moment because you know, they wanted to get-tre — because you know, they wanted to get-tre rtgrt— because you know, they wanted to get-tre rtgrt te— because you know, they wanted to get the right to evict get rid of the right to evict tererte— get rid of the right to evict tenants-fault- get rid of the right to evict tenants. fault evictions. but tenants. no fault evictions. but trer— tenants. no fault evictions. but trer-trtrgtrg- tenants. no fault evictions. but then-bringing in- then they're bringing in eemetrtrg— something for antisocial terewtewr— something for antisocial behaviour to— something for antisocial behaviour to protect landlords ert— behaviour to protect landlords ert-trew-re— behaviour to protect landlords and-they're not- behaviour to protect landlords and they're not allowed to and then they're not allowed to rewe — and then they're not allowed to rewe _teet— and then they're not allowed to have-lost some- and then they're not allowed to have-lost some of- and then they're not allowed to

have lost some of the have they've lost some of the tek— have they've lost some of the tee terettt— have they've lost some of the tax benefit. some— have they've lost some of the tax benefit. some of this happened-_ tax benefit. some of this happened. confusing, isn't happened. very confusing, isn't tte — happened. very confusing, isn't tte _ttet— happened. very confusing, isn't it? _that happened. happened. very confusing, isn't. it? _that happened over it? some of that happened over coronavirus plainly coronavirus and plainly you should able reclaim your should be able to reclaim your right to your property due right to your property with due notice, certain notice, due notice under certain conditions. after all, lots conditions. but after all, lots of wanted in of people wanted to live in their own right? they'd their own homes, right? they'd gone away for the years of coronavirus to somewhere else outside for capital outside of the for capital example, and they wanted to come back what back and live in what they regarded place. the regarded as their own place. the idea they didn't have idea that they didn't have a right to with notice to their tenants, repossession seems right to with notice to their teime s, repossession seems right to with notice to their teime ridiculous.)ssession seems right to with notice to their teime ridiculous. butssion seems right to with notice to their teime ridiculous. but i ion seems right to with notice to their teime ridiculous. but i think,ams to me ridiculous. but i think, you know, the problem is that many of these people have done very out it. they've had very well out of it. they've had tax very well out of it. they've had tek rerter— very well out of it. they've had tax relief-their— trig e they've had tax relief their mortgages. tax relief on their mortgages. if tax relief on their mortgages. rt-e— tax relief on their mortgages. rt-e terg— tax relief on their mortgages. if-a long time- tax relief on their mortgages. if a long time ago, buy if it was a long time ago, buy to if it was a long time ago, buy te tet— if it was a long time ago, buy to let mortgages— if it was a long time ago, buy to let mortgages which were trrwtteree— to let mortgages which were thruppence they've thruppence ha'penny, they've had an thruppence ha'penny, they've had er ert— thruppence ha'penny, they've had an income and they've you know, trew-we— an income and they've you know, trew-we tere— an income and they've you know, they've done quite— an income and they've you know, they've done quite well out of it they've done quite well out of t ert — they've done quite well out of t ert trew-we— they've done quite well out of it and they've collateral it and they've got collateral tret— it and they've got collateral tret trew— it and they've got collateral that they can— it and they've got collateral that they can now cash in and user— that they can now cash in and wretrer— that they can now cash in and use, whether it's— that they can now cash in and use, whether it's for a deposit for use, whether it's for a deposit ter tretr— use, whether it's for a deposit for their kids,— use, whether it's for a deposit for their kids, for— use, whether it's for a deposit for their kids, for a house or teeee— for their kids, for a house or because they— for their kids, for a house or because they want change because they want to change tretr—tti their lifestyle or whatever it is. meanwhile _ their lifestyle or whatever it is. meanwhile got people is. meanwhile you've got people wre— is. meanwhile you've got people wre-tr— is. meanwhile you've got people wre-tr kew— is. meanwhile you've got people wre-tr kew rete.— is. meanwhile you've got people who in key jobs, you know, who are in key jobs, you know, nurses and police— who are in key jobs, you know, nurses and police officers, firefighters— nurses and police officers, firefighters ,_ nurses and police officers, firefighters , teachers who firefighters, teachers who eemet— firefighters, teachers who cannot afford _ firefighters, teachers who cannot afford to live near where

trew— cannot afford to live near where trew werk.— cannot afford to live near where they work, certainly in the etttee— they work, certainly in the etttee trew— they work, certainly in the cities they can't. and their erereee— cities they can't. and their erereee . tr— cities they can't. and their chances . in fact, there was chances. in fact, there was a terew— chances. in fact, there was a woman today who had been a gp in in woman today who had been a gp in tr eo— woman today who had been a gp in tr to weere— woman today who had been a gp in tr ee weere ege— woman today who had been a gp in tr ee weere ege er— woman today who had been a gp in in 30 years ago or something, ert— in 30 years ago or something, ert ere— in 30 years ago or something, ert ere eett— in 30 years ago or something, and she said what she was eerrtrg— and she said what she was earning when— and she said what she was earning when she first started werktrg. — earning when she first started werktrg. ere— earning when she first started working. she could buy a flat in rerter.— working. she could buy a flat in terter. wew— working. she could buy a flat in london. now she— working. she could buy a flat in london. now she would need 30 ttmee— london. now she would need 30 ttmee rer— london. now she would need 30 times her income— london. now she would need 30 times her income .— london. now she would need 30 times her income . so that's the times her income. so that's the 30 times her income. so that's the to ttmee— times her income. so that's the to ttmee te— times her income. so that's the 30 times to buy— times her income. so that's the 30 times to buy 30— times her income. so that's the 30 times to buy 30 oh, the same ttet. — 30 times to buy 30 oh, the same ttet. wert.— 30 times to buy 30 oh, the same flat. well, there— 30 times to buy 30 oh, the same flat. well, there you- 30 times to buy 30 oh, the same flat. well, there you go. - 30 times to buy 30 oh, the same flat. �*vw�*rill “itri grir flat. well, there you go. but i do think there is you know, and the other problem and i know i bang on about this quite a lot, but the second home owners who buy property for airbnb , they buy property for airbnb, they are taking a whole chunk of property out of the longer term, letting market. and in rural and eeeetet— letting market. and in rural and coastal communities,— “g and in rural and coastal communities, that's kttttrg— coastal communities, that's kttttrgtrem— coastal communities, that's killing them stone dead. it's mektrg— killing them stone dead. it's mektrg tt— killing them stone dead. it's making it much— killing them stone dead. it's making it much more expensive teeee— making it much more expensive teeee wew— making it much more expensive tewee wew eer— making it much more expensive because you can charge so much mere-a— because you can charge so much merela ert— because you can charge so much merela ert t— because you can charge so much more-a and b and— because you can charge so much more-a and b and b- because you can charge so much more a and b and b for short more for a and b and b for short rete— more for a and b and b for short tete ert— more for a and b and b for short tete ert tre— more for a and b and b for short lets and the short— more for a and b and b for short lets and the short let market in rerter.— lets and the short let market in rerter. ter— lets and the short let market in london, for example, in other eetttet— london, for example, in other eetttet. etrer— london, for example, in other capital, other big— london, for example, in other capital, other big cities is ttke— capital, other big cities is ttke tret— capital, other big cities is like that-well. - capital, other big cities is like that well. rig rig like that as well. very very rtgr— like that as well. very very high charges indeed. but as alex says, we just need to build some

more houses. someone has more houses. but someone has said paul has said said here, paul has said the minimum epc rating is difficult for victorian era houses landlords are instead. landlords are selling instead. yes, because now landlords are going to blocked from letting going to be blocked from letting properties meet this properties unless they meet this epc right? that's all epc rating, right? that's all we've got time for on that one. but coming up, are you fed up of the constant remakes of films and books and theatre productions ? can't we come up productions? can't we come up with some new stories? let me know what you think in just one moment . wes streeting himars moment. wes streeting himars student

at welcome back to dewbs& co with me, emily carver. we've got alex dean, political consultant with us, and joe phillips, political commentator. right. let's get straight into our last topic of the show , joe, remakes of the the show, joe, remakes of the old classics. now i've got a list here. i'll just give two of the more amusing ones or the

ones that are a bit faster. dieses bastardised versions. i would say grease goes woke . new would say grease goes woke. new tv reboot of the 70 seconds classic features a song about white supremacy and it explores gender expression and racial identity sounds very right on about as much fun as an algebra. we've got the little mermaid remake, which updates the original lyrics to include consent . so no kisses without consent. so no kisses without someone saying yes , you may kiss someone saying yes, you may kiss me, joe. do you think do you? i know you don't like the word woke and you think it's a bit over the top. the obsession with woke things and things like this . but do you think there is sometimes we do sometimes see this unnecessary updating. i think, you know, do we need i trewgrt— think, you know, do we need i trewgrt tret— think, you know, do we need i thought that greasing was the tregwet— thought that greasing was the tregwet ter— thought that greasing was the prequel for the— thought that greasing was the prequel for the fabulous john trewette— prequel for the fabulous john travolta. olivia— prequel for the fabulous john travolta. olivia it is. e travolta. olivia it is. it's the women's story. yeah so you travolta. olivia it is. it's the- women's story. yeah so you know that women's story. yeah so you know me eewrte— women's story. yeah so you know me eewrte te— women's story. yeah so you know that sounds to me— women's story. yeah so you know that sounds to me like— “ 5013er v/riit“ so you know that sounds to me like really eerettrg— that sounds to me like really eerettrg tre— that sounds to me like really scraping the barrel to come up wttr— scraping the barrel to come up wttr e— scraping the barrel to come up wttr e etew— scraping the barrel to come up wttr e eterw te— scraping the barrel to come up wttr e eterw te .— scraping the barrel to come up with a story to , you know, when with a story to, you know, when wewe— with a story to, you know, when wewwe get— with a story to, you know, when wewwe get e— with a story to, you know, when you've got a perfectly good film tret-e— you've got a perfectly good film tret-e greet.— you've got a perfectly good film that's great. you— you've got a perfectly good film

that's great. you know, there's retrtrg— that's great. you know, there's retrtrg wrerg— that's great. you know, there's nothing wrong with remakes of time.— nothing wrong with remakes of time. twt— nothing wrong with remakes of time. twt te— nothing wrong with remakes of films, but to try— nothing wrong with remakes of films, but to try and invent eemetrtrg— films, but to try and invent something in— films, but to try and invent something in order just seems something in orderjust seems wttertw— something in orderjust seems utterly ridiculous. however, i do utterly ridiculous. however, i te trtrk— utterly ridiculous. however, i do think that— utterly ridiculous. however, i do think that things like baz twrrmerr-e— do think that things like baz luhrmann's film of romeo and meet— luhrmann's film of romeo and new wtt— luhrmann's film of romeo and juliet will have— luhrmann's film of romeo and juliet will have turned on a wrete— juliet will have turned on a wrete teet— juliet will have turned on a whole load of— juliet will have turned on a whole load of kids to shakespeare because the language was shakespeare because the language tre— shakespeare because the language tre eerte.— shakespeare because the language was the same. but— shakespeare because the language was the same. but it was set in tre— was the same. but it was set in tre eert— was the same. but it was set in tre eert et— was the same. but it was set in the sort of the— was the same. but it was set in the sort of the gangster. i trtrk— the sort of the gangster. i trtrk tt— the sort of the gangster. i think it was— the sort of the gangster. i think it was la- the sort of the gangster. i think it was la or somewhere ttke— think it was la or somewhere ttke tret. — think it was la or somewhere like that. and— think it was la or somewhere like that. and it— think it was la or somewhere like that. and it was brilliant. it like that. and it was brilliant. rt ee— like that. and it was brilliant. rt e— like that. and it was brilliant. it was a fabulous— like that. and it was brilliant. it was a fabulous film. and if tret— it was a fabulous film. and if we gete— it was a fabulous film. and if that gets people— it was a fabulous film. and if that gets people into watching tttrge— that gets people into watching trtrge. wew— that gets people into watching things, you know, i've seen god krewe— things, you know, i've seen god knows—versions- things, you know, i've seen god knows—versions of. knows how many versions of wemtet— knows how many versions of wemtet wttr— knows how many versions of hamlet with maxine peake and terettet— hamlet with maxine peake and benedict cumberbatch, and i trtrk— benedict cumberbatch, and i trtrk rer— benedict cumberbatch, and i think ian mckellen is actually playing— think ian mckellen is actually ttewtrg remet.— think ian mckellen is actually playing hamlet, and he's about art.— playing hamlet, and he's about arz. twt— playing hamlet, and he's about arz. twt wew— playing hamlet, and he's about 412. but you know,— playing hamlet, and he's about 412. but you know, there's retrtrg— 412. but you know, there's retrtrg te— 412. but you know, there's nothing to stop- 412. but you know, there's nothing to stop a good piece of werk— nothing to stop a good piece of werk tetrg— nothing to stop a good piece of work being reinterred . '“r: work being reinterred. and i eetwettw— work being reinterred. and i eetwettw twe— work being reinterred. and i actually i've got— work being reinterred. and i actually i've got no objection to rebooting a franchise. i think the newest mad max is pay homage to the older ones and they do something different. actually less objection to this new grease movie because at least does something least it does something different than and different rather than try and remake one remake scene for scene the one before. the problem is the content, concept . not

content, not the concept. not for, you know, the remake i kind of understand is even though it's so recent, in my mind at least, is the harry potter remakes, which presumably be commissioned at least part commissioned at least in part because generation that made because the generation that made the turned about to be the last lot turned about to be such ungrateful such disloyal, ungrateful toerags rather have toerags that i'd rather have a different set of movies. they really have shown— r: they really have shown themselves to be. really have shown themselves to te. trew— really have shown themselves to be. they showed— really have shown themselves to be. they showed true be. they showed their true ereewte— be. they showed their true. colours—haven't colours very quickly, haven't trew—weel colours very quickly, haven't trew—wee. ei colours very quickly, haven't- trew—wee. e ter they? they have, but yes, a ten weer— they? they have, but yes, a ten weer ettererttw— they? they have, but yes, a ten year apparently series , a tv year apparently series, a tv et— year apparently series, a tv series of harry— year apparently series, a tv series of harry potter may be eemtrg— series of harry potter may be eemtrg ewr— series of harry potter may be eemtrg wew. — series of harry potter may be coming our way. it's going to be in coming our way. it's going to be tr amertee. — coming our way. it's going to be in america. it'll— coming our way. it's going to be in america. it'll take so long tret— in america. it'll take so long we trew-tt— in america. it'll take so long that they'll start— in america. it'll take so long that they'll start remaking it tetere— that they'll start remaking it tetere tte— that they'll start remaking it before it's finished. absolutely- before it's finished. ' oily well, do you before it's finished. - absolutely . well, do you know absolutely. well, do you know wret— absolutely. well, do you know what someone— absolutely. well, do you know what someone _to l absolutely. well, do you knowi what someone—to in what someone has written to in eek— what someone has written to in eek etewt— what someone has written to in ask about whether— what someone has written to in ask about whether should ask about whether there should be ask about whether there should te—tre— ask about whether there should be_the musical?- ask about whether there should be_the musical? i. be a gb news the musical? i wewtt— be a gb news the musical? i would absolutely— be a gb news the musical? i would absolutely that. i would absolutely love that. i weee— would absolutely love that. i weet te— would absolutely love that. i used to-singing. - would absolutely love that. i used to singing. i shall used to love singing. i shall play— used to love singing. i shall play-i— used to love singing. i shall play-i got- used to love singing. i shall play-i got-got. used to love singing. i shall. play-i got-got my used to love singing. i shall- pley-i got-got my got play myself. i got my got my got my grete— play myself. i got my got my got my grete etgrt— play myself. i got my got my got my grade eight singing. so i erewtt— my grade eight singing. so i erewtt r— my grade eight singing. so i should i should— my grade eight singing. so i should i should be in that. “ should i should be in that. in ttet— should i should be in that. in ttet eee.— should i should be in that. in that case, maybe— should i should be in that. in that case, maybe there- should i should be in that. in that case, maybe there should be for christmas. a gb news pantomime can i'm in pantomime and now we can i'm in between now and then. who's going to be a good up dame, going to be a good run up dame, right, bernard says the writers of don't to have any of today don't seem to have any imagination. steve of today don't seem to have any imagination . steve says it's so

imagination. steve says it's so lazy— imagination. steve says it's so lazy te— imagination. steve says it's so lazy te eter— imagination. steve says it's so lazy to stop redoing— “ng rir“ steve says it's so lazy to stop redoing films and werktrg— lazy to stop redoing films and werktrg trem— lazy to stop redoing films and working them up. matthew says yes working them up. matthew says wee .— working them up. matthew says wee . r— working them up. matthew says wee . r e— working them up. matthew says yes . i was watching grease the yes. i was watching grease the tree— yes. i was watching grease the ktee et— yes. i was watching grease the ktee et tre— yes. i was watching grease the rise of the pink— yes. i was watching grease the rise of the pink ladies, and it got rise of the pink ladies, and it get te— rise of the pink ladies, and it get te tre— rise of the pink ladies, and it got to the first— rise of the pink ladies, and it got to the first song and i ewtteret— got to the first song and i switched the _ got to the first song and i switched the darn thing off. okay— switched the darn thing off. ekew. se— switched the darn thing off. ekew. se ttet— switched the darn thing off. okay, so that was one wasn't for wettrew— okay, so that was one wasn't for matthew telling _ okay, so that was one wasn't for matthew telling probably not for are. — matthew telling probably not for atek.|mtgrt— matthew telling probably not for atek.|mtgrt gtwe— matthew telling probably not for alex. might give it a go and alex. i might give it a go and eeeltt-e— alex. i might give it a go and eeeltt-e ett— alex. i might give it a go and seelit's all right.- alex. i might give it a go and see it's all right. i thank see if it's all right. i thank you—i- see if it's all right. i thank wew—r trtrk- see if it's all right. i thank. you—i think that's you very much. i think that's ert.— you very much. i think that's ett. trerk— you very much. i think that's all. thank you— you very much. i think that's all. thank you very much. time for all. thank you very much. time tet—aret- all. thank you very much. time for—alex dean,- all. thank you very much. time for—alex dean, ofi for this evening. alex dean, of course, joe phillips with us ttet— course, joe phillips with us me ewr— course, joe phillips with us that our flew— course, joe phillips with us that our flew thank you very that our flew by. thank you very mwer— that our flew by. thank you very mwer ter— that our flew by. thank you very much for sending— that our flew by. thank you very much for sending in of your much for sending in all of your wee— much for sending in all of your views-please- much for sending in all of your views-please.keep views at home. please do keep trem— views at home. please do keep trem-r— views at home. please do keep them _i believe- views at home. please do keep them-i believe it- views at home. please do keep them i believe it is them coming. i believe it is wtget— them coming. i believe it is wtget rerege. — them coming. i believe it is nigel farage. up next in a nigel farage. up next in just a tew— nigel farage. up next in just a tew memet.— nigel farage. up next in just a few moments. but we still few moments. oh, but we still rewe— few moments. oh, but we still rewe e— few moments. oh, but we still rewe etre-e— few moments. oh, but we still have a more seconds. alex, have a few more seconds. alex, erwtrtrge—wew- have a few more seconds. alex, anything?_you likej have a few more seconds. alex,- anything?_you like to anything? what would you like to see anything? what would you like to eee—ttke- anything? what would you like to eee—ttke te- anything? what would you like to| see—like to see see remade? i would like to see anotherjames bond, and i'd like to make daniel craig do it because he'd been so miserable about it of late. it would actually be hysterical. and you, alex. joe? joe. the worst alex. joe? joe joe. the worst thing i've ever seen was a musical about friends. it was so dreadful. okay, well , we will dreadful. okay, well, we will endeavour to make a gb news the musical. i mean, thank you very

mwer— musical. i mean, thank you very mwer ter— musical. i mean, thank you very much for tuning— musical. i mean, thank you very much for tuning in.— rt: i mean, thank you very much for tuning in. that's all get— much for tuning in. that's all get ttme— much for tuning in. that's all we've got time for now. up next, wtget— we've got time for now. up next, wtget rerege— we've got time for now. up next, nigel farage this— we've got time for now. up next, nigel farage this evening, i'm atek— nigel farage this evening, i'm atek teektr— nigel farage this evening, i'm alex deakin and— nigel farage this evening, i'm alex deakin and this is your teteet— alex deakin and this is your latest weather— alex deakin and this is your latest weather update from the wet— latest weather update from the ttet etttee. — latest weather update from the met office. 37�*rir latest weather update from the met office. t: met office. probably a cloudy start for many of us tomorrow morning, but it's expected to turn sunnier. there will be a fairly brisk easterly breeze, making feel quite chilly on making it feel quite chilly on nonh making it feel quite chilly on north coasts . high pressure north sea coasts. high pressure is responsible for that , also is responsible for that, also bringing many of us dry weather for much of this week. 1 or 2 light showers here and there with some thick cloud in places this evening, but with some thick cloud in places this evening , but they're this evening, but they're tending to fade away. i think we'll see cloud increasing we'll see the cloud increasing once across east once more across the east and that will spread west as we go through the night. but still some good breaks in the cloud across parts wales, across parts of west wales, north—west england, will north—west england, that will allow turn a little chilly allow it to turn a little chilly . pocket or two of frost is . a pocket or two of frost is not the question. in not out of the question. in rural spots . most towns rural spots. most towns and cities, start tuesday at cities, though, start tuesday at 5 6. most of us will start 5 or 6. most of us will start with a lot of cloud , but i think with a lot of cloud, but i think that cloud will tend to melt away over parts of central and eastern england, clearing from

western areas too. it may linger on some of the coasts across eastern scotland the eastern scotland into the afternoon , but for it will afternoon, but for many it will turn sunny before the cloud increases again across the southeast. the afternoon southeast. during the afternoon , with that easterly breeze feeling fresh on those feeling quite fresh on those nonh feeling quite fresh on those north coasts. but in the north sea coasts. but in the sunshine further west, quite pleasant. get to pleasant. we could get close to 20 over highlands 20 celsius over the highlands once more during the evening the cloud will thicken up a little bit more over england and wales with possibility of a few with the possibility of a few showers into south—west showers coming into south—west england as we head into wednesday morning. and they'll still around perhaps through still be around perhaps through the here, perhaps of the day here, perhaps parts of south also catch south wales may also catch a shower. but for most places, again, it's dry fine. on again, it's dry and fine. on wednesday , often fairly cloudy wednesday, often fairly cloudy over the midlands and southern england. but some good spells of sunshine elsewhere. still that easterly chill easterly wind bringing a chill to eastern coasts. but further west, temperatures getting into the mid—teens. but overall it is turning cooler and that will continue as we go through this week. high pressure still dominating to the north, but increasingly we'll see weather fronts coming in from the east

later this week to bring showers and chillier feel goodbye .

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