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oh it's 930 on wednesday, the 19th of april. this is to the point— 19th of april. this is to the point with— 19th of april. this is to the point with andrew- 9 p?” 0 this is to the point with andrew pierce and 9 '7” c this is to the point with andrew pierce and bev turne— point with andrew pierce and bev we on ea— point with andrew pierce and bev turner on gb news,— point with andrew pierce and bev turner on gb news, who's sunak talks— turner on gb news, who's sunak talks tough— turner on gb news, who's sunak talks tough on— turner on gb news, who's sunak talks tough on eco— turner on gb news, who's sunak talks tough on eco protesters. t hey— talks tough on eco protesters. they should— talks tough on eco protesters. they should be— talks tough on eco protesters. they should be ashamed- talks tough on eco protesters. they should be ashamed of themselves. he said. but isn't this just more words with the london marathon now possibly under outrageous and under threat, outrageous and another month of more inflation, it's fallen, but food inflation, food prices are still soaring . food prices are still soaring. why are supermarkets charging us so much— why are supermarkets charging us so much sturgeon— why are supermarkets charging us so much sturgeon under pressure to quit— so much sturgeon under pressure to quit the— so much sturgeon under pressure to qutt the putt— so much sturgeon under pressure to quit the party that she led for to quit the party that she led tor years-t — to quit the party that she led for years? we'll— to quit the party that she led for years? cc for years? we'll discuss motorhomes , donations, arrests motorhomes, donations, arrests and the former first minister's soap opera future . i don't think soap opera future. i don't think sue-s— soap opera future. i don't think sue-t got— soap opera future. i don't think tho-o got otto— soap opera future. i don't think she's got one. and— soap opera future. i don't think she's got one. and the- she's got one. and the coronation— she's got one. and the coronation cross is going to use stutt- — coronation cross is going to use stutt- they— coronation cross is going to use shards. they claim _ coronation cross is going to use shards. they claim was used in ctutot-o— shards. they claim was used in christ's crucifixion— shards. they claim was used in christ's crucifixion . well, christ's crucifixion. well, tut-o— christ's crucifixion. well, that's what _ christ's crucifixion. well, that's what they tell us. we'll have — that's what they tell us. we'll have the — that's what they tell us. we'll have the latest— that's what they tell us. we'll have the latest on relics and toyotty— have the latest on relics and toyotty .— have the latest on relics and toyotty . — have the latest on relics and toyotty. wou— have the latest on relics and royalty . we'll tell- have the latest on relics and royalty . you; a royalty. we'll tell you the shocking number of protesters that are apparently coming down
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to london this weekend . you to london this weekend. you honestly will not believe the figure. let me know on all the all we're talking about this morning, gbviews@gbnews.uk k but first of all, here are your news headunes first of all, here are your news headlines arron armstrong . headlines with arron armstrong. very good morning to you. it's on. — very good morning to you. it's on. tru— very good morning to you. it's 932. i'm arron— very good morning to you. it's 932. i'm arron armstrong in the gb newsroom— 932. i'm arron armstrong in the gb newsroom inflation has tattoo,— gb newsroom inflation has tottou tut— gb newsroom inflation has fallen, but not— gb newsroom inflation has fallen, but not by as much as too— fallen, but not by as much as tot toot— fallen, but not by as much as had been expected with food costs— had been expected with food costs ot— had been expected with food costs at o— had been expected with food costs at a 45— had been expected with food costs at a 45 year high, it was otottotot— costs at a 45 year high, it was prottotot tho— costs at a 45 year high, it was predicted the cost— costs at a 45 year high, it was predicted the cost of living uoutt— predicted the cost of living uoutt drop— predicted the cost of living would drop below 10% for the tutt— would drop below 10% for the tttot ttmo— would drop below 10% for the first time since _ would drop below 10% for the first time since august. but it ouuoutty— first time since august. but it currently stands— first time since august. but it currently stands at 10.1, down trom— currently stands at 10.1, down ttom tou— currently stands at 10.1, down ttom too the— currently stands at 10.1, down from 10.4 the previous month , from 10.4 the previous month, tutt— from 10.4 the previous month, uttt oovtugo— from 10.4 the previous month, with savings on— from 10.4 the previous month, with savings on lower fuel costs tote— with savings on lower fuel costs have toot— with savings on lower fuel costs have been cancelled out by ooottuo— have been cancelled out by soaring prices— have been cancelled out by soaring prices for bread, cereal out— soaring prices for bread, cereal out tutt— soaring prices for bread, cereal out ttutt ,— soaring prices for bread, cereal and fruit , clothing and footwear and fruit, clothing and footwear putts— and fruit, clothing and footwear ottooo otto— and fruit, clothing and footwear prices also rose.— and fruit, clothing and footwear prices also rose. the chancellor toys— prices also rose. the chancellor toys to— prices also rose. the chancellor says the government must oouttuuo— says the government must continue to _ says the government must continue to drive down inflation to too— continue to drive down inflation to pressure— continue to drive down inflation to ease pressure on families and tustuesses— to ease pressure on families and tustuesses .— to ease pressure on families and tusresses . as— to ease pressure on families and businesses . as the— to ease pressure on families and businesses . as the government's businesses. as the government's plans— businesses. as the government's rtors tor— businesses. as the government's rtors tor or— businesses. as the government's plans for an asylum centre in tssex— plans for an asylum centre in tssex tutt— plans for an asylum centre in essex will be _ plans for an asylum centre in essex will be challenged in the
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high— essex will be challenged in the utter court— essex will be challenged in the high court today,— essex will be challenged in the high court today, braintree otstrtet— high court today, braintree district council— high court today, braintree district council argues the proposed— district council argues the rroroset stte— district council argues the proposed site at raf wethersfield is unsuitable teeouse— wethersfield is unsuitable teeouse ot— wethersfield is unsuitable because of its— wethersfield is unsuitable because of its isolated location ort— because of its isolated location ort toot— because of its isolated location ort toot ot— because of its isolated location and lack of capacity for local servtees. — and lack of capacity for local services. the— and lack of capacity for local services. the government says ustre— services. the government says ustre ttsuset— services. the government says using disused military bases to oeeorrrrootte— using disused military bases to accommodate migrants will reduce rettoree— accommodate migrants will reduce rettoree or— accommodate migrants will reduce reliance on hotels— accommodate migrants will reduce reliance on hotels ._ accommodate migrants will reduce reliance on hotels . the sacked reliance on hotels. the sacked toss— reliance on hotels. the sacked toss ot— reliance on hotels. the sacked toss ot tre— reliance on hotels. the sacked boss of the cbi_ reliance on hotels. the sacked boss of the cbi says his rerutottor— boss of the cbi says his reputation has been totally destroyer— reputation has been totally destroyed following misconduct ottegottors— destroyed following misconduct otteeottors .— destroyed following misconduct allegations . tony— destroyed following misconduct allegations . tony danker destroyed following misconduct allegations. tony danker was socket— allegations. tony danker was seetet test— allegations. tony danker was sacked last week over claims he sert— sacked last week over claims he sert stutt— sacked last week over claims he sent staff members— sacked last week over claims he sent staff members unsolicited rressoese . art— sent staff members unsolicited messages . and while he's messages. and while he's orotogtset— messages. and while he's apologised for— messages. and while he's apologised for conduct that may rove— apologised for conduct that may rote mote— apologised for conduct that may have made some— apologised for conduct that may have made some colleagues feel very— have made some colleagues feel very uncomfortable, mr danker sets— very uncomfortable, mr danker soys re-s— very uncomfortable, mr danker says he's wrongly— very uncomfortable, mr danker says he's wrongly been associated _ says he's wrongly been associated with associated with separate — associated with associated with separate allegations , including separate allegations, including rope,— separate allegations, including rope, urter— separate allegations, including rape, which predate his time at the rape, which predate his time at tre err.— rape, which predate his time at tre crr. re— rape, which predate his time at the cbi. he claims— rape, which predate his time at the cbi. he claims he's been mote— the cbi. he claims he's been rrote o— the cbi. he claims he's been rrote o tott— the cbi. he claims he's been made a fall guy— the cbi. he claims he's been made a fall guy for a wider ertsts— made a fall guy for a wider crisis within— made a fall guy for a wider crisis within britain's biggest tustress— crisis within britain's biggest business lobbying group . and the business lobbying group. and the turre— business lobbying group. and the prime minister— business lobbying group. and the prime minister says disruptive ottrrote— prime minister says disruptive climate protesters should be osrorret— climate protesters should be osrorret ot— climate protesters should be ashamed of themselves. rishi surot-s— ashamed of themselves. rishi sunak's comments. it comes after
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oettvtsts— sunak's comments. it comes after activists disrupted— sunak's comments. it comes after activists disrupted the world srooter— activists disrupted the world snooker championship on monday and snooker championship on monday ort tre— snooker championship on monday ort tre erort— snooker championship on monday and the grand national at the ueeterrt— and the grand national at the weekend. speaking to the sun, mr suret— weekend. speaking to the sun, mr surot sets— weekend. speaking to the sun, mr sunak says those— weekend. speaking to the sun, mr sunak says those who disrupt srorttrg— sunak says those who disrupt sporting events— sunak says those who disrupt sporting events ruin the hard wort— sporting events ruin the hard wort ot— sporting events ruin the hard work of others— sporting events ruin the hard work of others and should be osrorret— work of others and should be osrorret ot— work of others and should be ashamed of their— work of others and should be ashamed of their selfish behaviour. _ ashamed of their selfish behaviour. tv- ashamed of their selfish behaviour. tv online dab+ radio and behaviour. tv online dab+ radio art or— behaviour. tv online dab+ radio art or ture— behaviour. tv online dab+ radio art or ture tr.— behaviour. tv online dab+ radio and on tune in. this— behaviour. tv online dab+ radio and on tune in. this is gb news. now— and on tune in. this is gb news. now tt-s— and on tune in. this is gb news. now tt-s toot— and on tune in. this is gb news. now it's back to— and on tune in. this is gb news. now it's back to andrew and . now it's back to andrew and. bev so now it's back to andrew and. bev | so tre— now it's back to andrew and. bev l so the pure— now it's back to andrew and. bev - so the prime ministers- now it's back to andrew and. bev. - so the prime ministers talk to now it's back to andrew and. bev. - so the primtthe nisters talk to now it's back to andrew and. bev. - so the primtthe papaveriak to the sun and said the papaveria press protesters like stop oil. extinction rebellion is outrageous, selfish and reckless as we have approached the london marathon, which could be frankly destroyed by this shower. it comes as environmental groups, tretuttrg— comes as environmental groups, including extinction rebellion, prepare— including extinction rebellion, prepare to— including extinction rebellion, prepare to flood— including extinction rebellion, prepare to flood the capital uttr — prepare to flood the capital with 30,000.— prepare to flood the capital with 30,000. that's right, environmental— with 30,000. that's right, environmental activists during the environmental activists during tre tortor— environmental activists during the london marathon this weekend . jacob— the london marathon this weekend . rreor tees-propp— the london marathon this weekend . jacob rees—mogg, our-
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the london marathon this weekend . jacob rees—mogg, our very own , was talked to a gestapo spokesman last night on gb news. this is what was said. we are looking at what— this is what was said. we are looking at what the- 7 r: we are looking at what the climate ortsts— looking at what the climate ortsts ts — looking at what the climate ortsts ts ts— looking at what the climate crisis is, is a— looking at what the climate crisis is, is a red— looking at what the climate crisis is, is a red light for rurrortty— crisis is, is a red light for rurrortty .— crisis is, is a red light for humanity . jacob, will you be humanity. jacob, will you be joining— humanity. jacob, will you be joining us— humanity. jacob, will you be joining us or— humanity. jacob, will you be joining us on the 24th of april at r— joining us on the 24th of april otr prr. — joining us on the 24th of april otr prr. tor— joining us on the 24th of april otr prr. tor o— joining us on the 24th of april at1 pm. for a march joining us on the 24th of april at 1 pm. for a march to end new oil at 1 pm. for a march to end new or ort— at 1 pm. for a march to end new or art gas? — at 1 pm. for a march to end new oil and gas? no,— at 1 pm. for a march to end new oil and gas? no, no,- at 1 pm. for a march to end new oil and gas? \:::r at 1 pm. for a march to end new oil and gas? \r:::r f oil and gas? no, no, of course i won't, because i want my constituents to have warm homes. the climate crisis. i want them to have warm homes and have economic prosperity. we're already seeing _ economic prosperity. we're already seeing crops- f rt we're already seeing crops burning in the already seeing crops burning in tre-roeot— already seeing crops burning in tre-roeot-tt— already seeing crops burning in the -jacob-it only- already seeing crops burning in the us jacob it only already seeing crops burning in the us so acob it only already seeing crops burning in the us so far.) it only already seeing crops burning in the us so far. jacobt only already seeing crops burning in the us so far. jacob isn't/ gets us so far. jacob isn't tree.— gets us so far. jacob isn't trere. — gets us so far. jacob isn't there. -invented- gets us so far. jacob isn't there. : gets us so far. jacob isn't- there. -invented by whom? there. it's invented by whom? who is benefiting?— there. it's invented by whom? who is benefiting? by- there. it's invented by whom? who is benefiting? by me- who is benefiting? by me persorottr— who is benefiting? by me personally, yes. jacob part of a system — personally, yes. jacob part of a system trot— personally, yes. jacob part of a system that wishes to frighten peopte— system that wishes to frighten peopte trto — system that wishes to frighten people into having a lower stortort— people into having a lower standard of— people into having a lower standard of living. c: standard of living. good for you.— standard of living. good for you, roost.— standard of living. good for you, jacob. well, that was sean irish from just stop oil speaking to jacob rees—mogg last night on gb news. well the prime minister tough minister might be talking tough , protests have been , but these protests have been going a while . july last going on for a while. july last year , six going on for a while. july last peer , sto peopte— going on for a while. july last year , six people were- 97 9 july last year , six people were arrested year, six people were arrested at tre— year, six people were arrested at the british _ year, six people were arrested at the british grand prix, for rstre— at the british grand prix, for instance, after— at the british grand prix, for instance, after five activists trotted— instance, after five activists truetet tre — instance, after five activists invaded the track. all six were
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eorvtetet — invaded the track. all six were eorvtetet ot— invaded the track. all six were convicted of causing a public nuisance . guess— convicted of causing a public nuisance . guess what? they got nuisance. guess what? they got suspertet— nuisance. guess what? they got suspertet .— nuisance. guess what? they got suspended . prison— nuisance. guess what? they got suspended . prison sentences and suspended. prison sentences and oorrrrurtty— suspended. prison sentences and community-orders- suspended. prison sentences and community-orders ,- suspended. prison sentences and community orders , which community service orders, which trey—to— community service orders, which trey—toler- community service orders, which they—dolall over. they can go and do it all over opotr. — they can go and do it all over opotr. aru— they can go and do it all over again. and last— they can go and do it all over again. and last october, activists brought traffic to a standstill in central london . standstill in central london. six of them have been found guilty of wilful obstruction of the highway. and in november , it the highway. and in november, it was them again, just up for days of flipping protests on the m25. 58 people were charged. one oettvtst— 58 people were charged. one activist jailed— 58 people were charged. one activist jailed for— 58 people were charged. one activist jailed for six months, rot— activist jailed for six months, rot tore— activist jailed for six months, not long enough— activist jailed for six months, not long enough know. and then on not long enough know. and then or monday— not long enough know. and then on monday night,— not long enough know. and then on monday night, just stop. ca g on monday night, just stop. oil targeted— on monday night, just stop. oil trrpeteu rt.— on monday night, just stop. oil torpetet tt. ot— on monday night, just stop. oil targeted it. of course- on monday night, just stop. oil targeted it. of course the- on monday night, just stop. oil targeted it. of course the world snooker championship in sheffield. two people have been arrested. these were the scenes there on monday evening . there on monday evening. ridiculous yeah. so i'm still struppttrp— ridiculous yeah. so i'm still struppttrp to— ridiculous yeah. so i'm still struggling to think- ?r: f yeah. so i'm still struggling to think what 3r: f yeah. so i'm still struggling to think what snooker has struggling to think what snooker res rot— struggling to think what snooker res got to— struggling to think what snooker res got to to— struggling to think what snooker has got to do with— struggling to think what snooker has got to do with carbon emissions. global warming, and even more so, the— emissions. global warming, and even more so, the london blimmin torturou— even more so, the london blimmin marathon, where— even more so, the london blimmin marathon, where people are oetuotty— marathon, where people are actually running active transport— actually running active transport on- actually running active transport on their own feet . transport on their own feet. ottrtr — transport on their own feet. ottrtr utley— transport on their own feet.
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olivia utley joins— transport on their own feet. olivia utley joins us- transport on their own feet. olivia utley joins us now to discuss this. when you look at it like that , a collation of it like that, a collation of a collection , if you like, of collection, if you like, of events that we've put through that's even just a small part, olivia, of what we've been deaung olivia, of what we've been dealing with. rishi sunak of course, said earlier in the week, we should be ashamed if we can't do maths. well, he's now saying you should be ashamed if you in a way you protesting. and in a way when he uses it about maths, it undermines the of saying undermines the power of saying it like, like this. it about people like, like this. what know he's going to do what do we know he's going to do at the moment? does he have any plans to with it? well, he plans to deal with it? well, he does have a plan,— plans to deal with it? well, he does have a plan, but- : 7 well, he does have a plan, but quite a lot does have a plan, but quite a tot ot— does have a plan, but quite a tot ot rts— does have a plan, but quite a lot of his backbenchers feel trot—trt- lot of his backbenchers feel that—bit slow. lot of his backbenchers feeli that—bit slow and that it's a little bit slow and getttrg— that it's a little bit slow and getttrg o— that it's a little bit slow and getttrg o trt— that it's a little bit slow and getting a bit frustrated with it the getting a bit frustrated with it tre wav— getting a bit frustrated with it tre wry re— getting a bit frustrated with it the way he aims— getting a bit frustrated with it the way he aims to address this is the way he aims to address this ts-tre— the way he aims to address this ts-tre re— the way he aims to address this is-the new public- the way he aims to address this is the new public order is through the new public order tott— is through the new public order trto—tre- is through the new public order bill,_the table| bill, which he put on the table tote— bill, which he put on the table tote-year. — bill, which he put on the table tote-year. art— bill, which he put on the table late year. and what that late last year. and what that tutt— late last year. and what that out-teet— late last year. and what that uttt-teet up— late last year. and what that will beef up police powers will do is beef up police powers to-tr— will do is beef up police powers to-tr protests- will do is beef up police powers to in protests before to intervene in protests before trey—tor- to intervene in protests before. they—for example, they take place. so for example, -toettes— they take place. so for example, one -tactics that - they take place. so for example, one tactics that just one of the tactics that just stop— one of the tactics that just stop-ore- one of the tactics that just stop - are slow - one of the tactics that just- stop - are slow walking stop oil uses are slow walking protests— stop oil uses are slow walking protests, which— stop oil uses are slow walking protests, which massively hold upous-e— protests, which massively hold upous-e ruge- up traffic, cause huge disruption— up traffic, cause huge disruption in in the centre of tortor— disruption in in the centre of tortor ort— disruption in in the centre of london and at— disruption in in the centre of london and at the moment there is london and at the moment there ts-trot— london and at the moment there ts-trot pottee— london and at the moment there is-that police can- london and at the moment there is that police can do is nothing that police can do trout— is nothing that police can do trout-reu-
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is nothing that police can do about new legislation about it under new legislation trom— about it under new legislation trorr tre— about it under new legislation from the public— about it under new legislation from the public order act, pottee— from the public order act, police would— from the public order act, police would be able to ask for trose— police would be able to ask for those protesters— police would be able to ask for those protesters to _ police would be able to ask for those protesters to move from tre— those protesters to move from tre root— those protesters to move from tre root to— those protesters to move from the road to the— those protesters to move from the road to the street if they o rt— the road to the street if they o rt trey— the road to the street if they see a if they see— the road to the street if they see a if they see a protest tottrg— see a if they see a protest tottrg pteee— see a if they see a protest taking place. so it's all about ottoutrg— taking place. so it's all about allowing police— taking place. so it's all about allowing police to intervene tetore— allowing police to intervene tetore tre— allowing police to intervene before the disruption has ropperet.— before the disruption has happened. course, that happened. but of course, that totter— happened. but of course, that was talked about— happened. but of course, that was talked about late last year. it's was talked about late last year. rt-s stru— was talked about late last year. rt-s stttt gotrg— it's still going through conversations, now it's still going through- conversations,-now in conversations, stages now in troy. — conversations, stages now in troy. tre-re— conversations, stages now in may. we're nearly in may and who trous— may. we're nearly in may and who trous rou— may. we're nearly in may and who trous row torg— may. we're nearly in may and who knows how long it's— may. we're nearly in may and who knows how long it's going to be. art— knows how long it's going to be. art ot— knows how long it's going to be. and of course,— knows how long it's going to be. and of course, it's— knows how long it's going to be. and of course, it's a— and of course, it's a controversial bill because some peopte— controversial bill because some peopte teet— controversial bill because some people feel that— controversial bill because some people feel that it— controversial bill because some people feel that it stomps down on people feel that it stomps down or pro — people feel that it stomps down or pro retro— people feel that it stomps down on dab radio because i actually upp— on dab radio because i actually trtrt, stop— on dab radio because i actually think, stop these— on dab radio because i actually think, stop these people in tretr— think, stop these people in their tracks. _ think, stop these people in their tracks. i— think, stop these people in their tracks. ”rz; their tracks. i know you're worried about the longer implications, but the fact is people are there people are still there preventing going to work preventing people going to work low paid people going to work. people in hospitals, people work in hospitals, porters, going work in porters, people going to work in the their cars. people trying to get to hospital for cancer appointments . it's outrageous. appointments. it's outrageous. and is biggest outrage, and this is the biggest outrage, isn't it, olivia? the london marathon people train that marathon people train for that all year . it marathon people train for that all year. it raises millions as you know, for charity and they're planning to put 30,000 activists in london this weekend
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. so only 40,000 take part in the race. it will be unforgivable if they stop there. half a million runners we have now. iam half a million runners we have now. i am quite worried about it teuse— now. i am quite worried about it teeruse r— now. i am quite worried about it teeruse r rrr— i am quite worried about it because i am running the london trrrrtror— because i am running the london marathon .sunday. - because i am running the london marathon sunday. 4:7 ” �*" marathon on sunday. your first ore— marathon on sunday. your first one?lam-— marathon on sunday. your first one?lam- rt-s— marathon on sunday. your first one? am. it's my first london one? i am. it's my first london marathon been affect marathon and i've been affect your preparation . well, am your preparation. well, i am quite worried because quite worried about it because i've run 600 k in the last four months. i'm old. oh 400 miles. no more than that. more than that. quite a bit more than that. quite a bit more than that. yeah and i am hoping to do a very good time, but it does make me feel a bit anxious and it does seem a bit of a strange, as you say, event to protest when of course millions have been raised for charity and people are moving on to do with warming up the planet. absolutely. although i suppose don't stop, just stop oil activists would argue that it it raises awareness for their cause. and for them, that is the most important thing. and i think it's about half- most important thing. and i think it's about half a- think it's about half a million peopte— think it's about half a million people apply— think it's about half a million people apply and there are about 50, retoo— people apply and there are about 50, roooo to— people apply and there are about 50, 40,000 do actually run it.
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not— 50, 40,000 do actually run it. not eeorrye— 50, 40,000 do actually run it. not everyone finishes it, of tut— not everyone finishes it, of course, but people do marathons all course, but people do marathons rtt oe— course, but people do marathons rtt tre— course, but people do marathons all over the country. 74:73 7 g all over the country. yeah, it's i all over the country. yeah, it's rtttrt— all over the country. yeah, it's i think this would be the one maybe this is the one that the straw that breaks the camel's back because it is such disabled people, people in wheelchairs, so many people fat, thin dress up in costumes. it's quite a life affirming event as well. but as you're about to discover, we hope we hope this public but as you're about to discover, we hcbill,ie hope this public but as you're about to discover, we hcbill, though, this public but as you're about to discover, we hc bill, though, olivia blic but as you're about to discover, we hcbill, though, olivia ,lic but as you're about to discover, we hc bill, though, olivia , the order bill, though, olivia, the reason it was controversial, it is controversial. remind me who i is controversial. remind me who r urrt— is controversial. remind me who r urrt to— is controversial. remind me who r urrt to sry— is controversial. remind me who i want to say that— is controversial. remind me who i want to say that it— is controversial. remind me who i want to say that it was- f remind me who i want to say that it was priti trtet— i want to say that it was priti trtet, rsrt— i want to say that it was priti patel, wasn't it?— i want to say that it was priti patel, wasn't it? it was that first— patel, wasn't it? it was that ttrst ot— patel, wasn't it? it was that ttrst ot rtt— patel, wasn't it? it was that first of all suggested this and it first of all suggested this and t ee— first of all suggested this and it came during— first of all suggested this and it came during lockdown periods. i it came during lockdown periods. treet— it came during lockdown periods. rteet ute— it came during lockdown periods. i feel like 2021,— it came during lockdown periods. i feel like 2021, it's— it came during lockdown periods. i feel like 2021, it's been tuttttrg— i feel like 2021, it's been bubbling away. . bubbling away. it has been bubbung bubbling away. it has been bubbling away. it has been bubbling away since then. it anyone who is a proponent of the pubuc anyone who is a proponent of the public order bill argues that it will only be used . it public order bill argues that it will only be used. it is public order bill argues that it will only be used . it is the will only be used. it is the purpose of it is to stop specifically environmental protesters who use these guerrilla tactics. but of course , there is a danger that with wide ranging legislation like this , fine at the moment under
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this, fine at the moment under this, fine at the moment under this particular conservative government, it will be used to stop the guerrilla protests from from just stop oil activists. but of course, it could be used for any other protests at a later date. and, you know , we later date. and, you know, we live in a free country and we do expect the right to protest peacefully. so it is a controversial piece of legislation, which is pretty bad news for anyone worried about these events because it is going to take an awfully long time to get through parliament. it's going to get held up in the lords and if it doesn't get held up in the commons, what's it's when you find that the police are just not moving on the are not just not moving on the protesters, they're giving them sunblock, that it's sunblock, but that it's pathetic. but you see, that's why— pathetic. but you see, that's. wry—ttveret why people become lily livered pottetrg. — why people become lily livered policing. -that's- why people become lily livered policing. -that's but- why people become lily livered policing. but that's but that but people know much but you see people who know much more detail of this more about the detail of this lawyers that we've interviewed before, well, they before, human rights. well, they will police already have will say the police already have these i'm that's these powers, i'm sure that's right. they powers. right. they have these powers. tut— right. they have these powers. tut tor— right. they have these powers. tut tor sorre— right. they have these powers. but for some reason, they're not using them. some people using them. now, some people would maybe they're using them. now, some people wol using maybe they're using them. now, some people wol using them maybe they're using them. now, some people wol using them because they're using them. now, some people wol using them because they' know not using them because they know that government wants to
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that the government wants to push through the public order bill powers to bill and create more powers to control in ways control the populations in ways that we could never imagine, i think is just policing. think is just useless policing. why why aren't they why aren't they why aren't they totrg—r— why aren't they why aren't they totrg—r srrett- why aren't they why aren't they doing—a smell of. doing i don't see a smell of eorsptrrer— doing i don't see a smell of eorsptrreg. r— doing i don't see a smell of conspiracy. i just— doing i don't see a smell of conspiracy. i just think bad pottetrg— conspiracy. i just think bad- policing—policing policing, too much bad policing, too—tr— policing, too much bad policing, too—tr our- policing, too much bad policing, too—in our policing too much wokery in our policing trere— too much wokery in our policing there-argument— too much wokery in our policing there argument that. there is an argument for that. rte— there is an argument for that. rte-router— there is an argument for that. the-would argue- there is an argument for that. the -would argue that. there is an argument for that. i the -would argue that when the police would argue that when they go when they crack down on protests like they did on the sarah they sarah everard vigil, they get in trouble that. they might trouble for that. so they might say they can't. they were say that they can't. they were urestttrg— say that they can't. they were wrestling women _ say that they can't. they were wrestling women to— say that they can't. they were wrestling women to the- 977 . they were wrestling women to the ground 7 9 they were wrestling women to the ground by protesttrg— wrestling women to the ground by protesttrg rtout— wrestling women to the ground by protesting about a— wrestling women to the ground by protesting about a murder by a ot— protesting about a murder by a woman of a police service. but you— woman of a police service. but you-ttrs— woman of a police service. but you-trts ts— woman of a police service. but you-trts ts wry— woman of a police service. but you this is why but this is you see, this is why but this is why— you see, this is why but this is wry wry— you see, this is why but this is wry wry-ute- you see, this is why but this is why why-like me- you see, this is why but this is why why like me stop and why why people like me stop and uorert— why why people like me stop and uorert urrt— why why people like me stop and wonder what is— why why people like me stop and wonder what is going on in the ttgger— wonder what is going on in the ttgger pteture— wonder what is going on in the bigger picture here. is this rtout— bigger picture here. is this rtout tur— bigger picture here. is this about i'm not— bigger picture here. is this about i'm not suggest saying that there are necessarily government entities which have infiltrated these groups, although we do know that that hasn't happened in some countries around the world. in order activate this of order to activate this sort of hysteria around these events , hysteria around these events, some of these people in these organisations these organisations there, these these protest groups, they're quite kind of vulnerable individuals. they're easily manipulated. it
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only takes one person within just a to say, i was talking just a oil to say, i was talking to somebody whose wife to somebody recently whose wife has in these has got involved in these activities and he said, i don't recognise her anymore. it's like she's cult. like she's joined a cult. it's like she's joined a cult. it's like she's brainwashed, right? she's become brainwashed, right? and know, now that and now she, you know, now that she's out there day she's she's out there every day and her life to and she's devoting her life to this, be really careful this, well, be really careful what you wish for, because you're do a peaceful you're right. to do a peaceful protest go well. what protest will go well. what i find quite interesting- 99 97 what i find quite interesting about it is find quite interesting about it ts tre— find quite interesting about it ts tre-trrt— find quite interesting about it is the that extinction is the fact that extinction tetetttor— is the fact that extinction rebellion -just- is the fact that extinction rebellion just stop oil rebellion and just stop oil trere— rebellion and just stop oil trere seem— rebellion and just stop oil there seem to— rebellion and just stop oil there seem to be some tensions tetueer— there seem to be some tensions tetueer trose — there seem to be some tensions between those two _ there seem to be some tensions between those two groups because txttrettor— between those two groups because extinction rebellion, which was the extinction rebellion, which was tre ortgtrrt— extinction rebellion, which was the original group, it's more the original group, it's a more orgrrtset— the original group, it's a more orgrrtset-.— the original group, it's a more orgrrtset-. rt- the original group, it's a more organised . a bigger group organised group. a bigger group has organised group. a bigger group rrs srtt— organised group. a bigger group has said that— organised group. a bigger group has said that it— organised group. a bigger group has said that it won't disrupt tre— has said that it won't disrupt the-marathon- has said that it won't disrupt the-marathon if- has said that it won't disrupt the marathon if it can the london marathon if it can possttty— the london marathon if it can possttty retp— the london marathon if it can possttty retp tt— the london marathon if it can possibly help it because as it srt,— possibly help it because as it srtt, tt— possibly help it because as it said, it recognises that people errprtrtse— said, it recognises that people empathise with— said, it recognises that people empathise with its cause but tor-t— empathise with its cause but tor-t ute— empathise with its cause but don't like the— empathise with its cause but don't like the way it's going rtout— don't like the way it's going rtout tt— don't like the way it's going about it and— don't like the way it's going about it and they want to get peopte— about it and they want to get peopte or— about it and they want to get more people on side. so they're sort— more people on side. so they're sort ot— more people on side. so they're sort or getttrg— more people on side. so they're sort or getttrg r— more people on side. so they're sort of getting a bit softer, uttttrg— sort of getting a bit softer, uttttrg to— sort of getting a bit softer, willing to compromise, whereas the willing to compromise, whereas tre-stop— willing to compromise, whereas the-stop-activists- willing to compromise, whereas the stop activists have the just stop oil activists have teeoe— the just stop oil activists have teeorre-ot— the just stop oil activists have become of guerrilla become the sort of guerrilla trettor— become the sort of guerrilla trettor ot— become the sort of guerrilla faction of this— become the sort of guerrilla faction of this group. i love tre— faction of this group. i love the headline— faction of this group. i love the headline in the sun about
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that idiot who disrupted the snooker the other night. just posh off because he's another posh off because he's another posh a very rich family. posh son of a very rich family. too much money, no sense , too much money, no sense, doesn't have a job. go and get a job, mate. and he's a good dose of job, mate. and he's a good dose ot therew— job, mate. and he's a good dose or trerrpy-guy. — job, mate. and he's a good dose of therapy.-guy. when- and he's a good dose of therapy. guy. when i saw of therapy. that guy. when i saw rtrr—r— of therapy. that guy. when i saw rtrr—r trougrt- of therapy. that guy. when i saw him—i thought, oh,i him interviewed, i thought, oh, you— him interviewed, i thought, oh, youe-tssues- him interviewed, i thought, oh, you've issues which you've got some issues which you're— you've got some issues which you're—vourl you're channelling into your i trtrt— you're channelling into your i trtrt-r— you're channelling into your i think-i allowed- you're channelling into your i think i allowed to say needs think am i allowed to say needs a think am i allowed to say needs r goot— think am i allowed to say needs r goot tret— think am i allowed to say needs r goot ttet up— think am i allowed to say needs a good kick up the— think am i allowed to say needs a good kick up the probably not. probably— a good kick up the probably not. probably-l— a good kick up the probably not. probably-i think— a good kick up the probably not. probably-i think i— a good kick up the probably not. probably-i think i think- probably not. i think i think therapy might be more acceptable. suggestion therapy lviv acceptable. suggestion therapy tort—you- lviv we're going to keep you outr— lviv we're going to keep you uttr—ro- lviv we're going to keep you uttr—to pur- with this future. no pun trtertet— with this future. no pun intended,.,- with this future. no pun intended, , exactly. 377; ”ti; intended, no, exactly. we're going— intended, no, exactly. we're gotrg—rretrrul going to northern ireland, aren't think so. so rishi aren't we? i think so. so rishi surrt— aren't we? i think so. so rishi sunak returns— g 7 i think so. so rishi sunak returns northern sunak returns to northern retrrt— sunak returns to northern ireland today— sunak returns to northern ireland today to deliver the etostrg— ireland today to deliver the closing address— ireland today to deliver the closing address at a gala dinner rrrrttrg— closing address at a gala dinner rrrrttrg-zttr— closing address at a gala dinner marking 25th anniversary marking the 25th anniversary of the marking the 25th anniversary of. tre—tour marking the 25th anniversary of. treluttt—torr marking the 25th anniversary of. treluttt te—torr marking the 25th anniversary of. the iwill be there. -tony marking the 25th anniversary of. the iwill be there. bill-tony blair will be there. bill clinton, let's give credit where it's were key figures it's due. they were key figures in it. i'm not quite in delivering it. i'm not quite sure why the european commission president, der lion president, ursula von der lion has her nose but has to stick her nose in, but she'll there in the she'll be there in the conference, so let's speak she'll be there in the conftto nce, so let's speak she'll be there in the conftto dougie so let's speak she'll be there in the conftto dougie beattie,s speak she'll be there in the conftto dougie beattie, oureak now to dougie beattie, our northern ireland is northern ireland reporter who is in the big event again, in the city big event again, this dougie, it's been this morning. dougie, it's been a this morning. dougie, it's been rteet— this morning. dougie, it's been rueet ot— this morning. dougie, it's been a week of them— this morning. dougie, it's been a week of them . _ this morning. dougie, it's been a week of them . it- this morning. dougie, it's been a week of them . it has- 79 dougie, it's been a week of them . g 3: a week of them. it has indeed. and thank goodness this is the last of them today. yes, we've
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had the politics of the past. they've all been here. as mark longhurst said, the band got back together. we had all the big names from the good friday agreement 25 years ago, and today we are having the politicians lines of this era. we have leo varadkar , the irish we have leo varadkar, the irish taoiseach or prime minister. we have ursula von der leyen, the eu commission, and we have rishi sunak. now this is very much a carrot and stick approach and the pressure here to go back into power has really been on unionism throughout this whole conference. so yesterday, chris heaton—harris, the secretary of state, very much in his speech , state, very much in his speech, warning unionism, if they did not rejoin the institutions of the good friday agreement, that it would put the union under threat. and today rishi sunak speech is apparently to address and look at what he's saying that he is going to make northern ireland the best place to do business. and meanwhile you have unionists that have
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examined the document saying it will cost business in northern ireland. and tonight at the gala dinner, you will have those that actually put the good friday agreement in place and the three decades of killing and violence in northern ireland and on the other side of the room, you will have those. and it is rumoured that liz truss and boris johnson may indeed be here and that will be one heck of an interesting gala dinner to be at. thank you so much, dougie— gala dinner to be at. thank you so much, dougie ._ gala dinner to be at. thank you so much, dougie . well- gala dinner to be at. thank you so much, dougie . well if- 9797 r: 77r::;” thank you so much, dougie . well if he's so much, dougie. well if he's extrustet— so much, dougie. well if he's exhausted with— so much, dougie. well if he's exhausted with it, i know he's extrustet— exhausted with it, i know he's exhausted with— exhausted with it, i know he's exhausted with it.— exhausted with it, i know he's exhausted with it. oh, it's tovety— exhausted with it. oh, it's tovety to— exhausted with it. oh, it's lovely to see _ exhausted with it. oh, it's lovely to see your face, dougie . vert— lovely to see your face, dougie . vert. tt-s— lovely to see your face, dougie . yeah, it's been— lovely to see your face, dougie . yeah, it's been a— lovely to see your face, dougie . yeah, it's been a big- lovely to see your face, dougie . yeah, it's been a big story, and olivia's still with us. olivia. i predict the dup will be back in that power sharing thing quite soon, and they're going to. it's going to stick in their craw because it means the sinn will be first time sinn fein will be the first time the minister. that's a big the first minister. that's a big moment history. well, moment in irish history. well, absolutely. and moment in irish history. well, absolutely . and that is if moment in irish history. well, absolutely. and that is if dup if absolutely. and that is if dup tt tre— absolutely. and that is if dup tt tre tur— absolutely. and that is if dup if the dup do— absolutely. and that is if dup if the dup do agree- 7:79 and that is if dup if the dup do agree to get back trto— if the dup do agree to get back trto r— if the dup do agree to get back trto r power— if the dup do agree to get back into a power sharing agreement teeruse— into a power sharing agreement teeruse trrt— into a power sharing agreement
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because that that— into a power sharing agreement because that that be tough. because that that will be tough. trey-re — because that that will be tough. trey-re gotrg— because that that will be tough. trey-re gotrg to— because that that will be tough. they're going to whacked in they're going to get whacked in the they're going to get whacked in tre-toert— they're going to get whacked in the-local elections- they're going to get whacked in the local elections over the next local elections over trere— the next local elections over trere .— the next local elections over trere . r— the next local elections over there . i think— the next local elections over there . i think i— the next local elections over there . i think i mean, there is there. i think i mean, there is an there. i think i mean, there is rr rrgurrert— there. i think i mean, there is an argument that— there. i think i mean, there is an argument that the dup just sort— an argument that the dup just sort-ureter- an argument that the dup just sort whacked, whatever it sort of get whacked, whatever it toes— sort of get whacked, whatever it toesltt— sort of get whacked, whatever it toesltt toes— sort of get whacked, whatever it does,.it does get— sort of get whacked, whatever it does, it does get back into does, if it does get back into a power— does, if it does get back into a power-agreement- does, if it does get back into a power agreement with power sharing agreement with strr— power sharing agreement with strr-uttr— power sharing agreement with sinn-with-fein- power sharing agreement with sinn-with-fein as. sinn fein, with sinn fein as ttrst— sinn fein, with sinn fein as first minister,— sinn fein, with sinn fein as first minister, they see first minister, they could see gutte— first minister, they could see gutte-tretr- first minister, they could see quite-their votes- first minister, they could see quite their votes be quite a lot of their votes be syproret— quite a lot of their votes be syphoned.into- quite a lot of their votes be syphoned into the tuv syphoned off into the tuv and otter— syphoned off into the tuv and other harder— syphoned off into the tuv and other harder unionist other harder line unionist groups— other harder line unionist groups .— other harder line unionist groups . so— other harder line unionist groups. so the dup has got ttsett— groups. so the dup has got ttsett tr— groups. so the dup has got itself in quite— groups. so the dup has got itself in quite a— groups. so the dup has got itself in quite a sticky postttor— itself in quite a sticky position at— itself in quite a sticky position at the moment. it's rrrt— position at the moment. it's rrrt to— position at the moment. it's rrrt to-r— position at the moment. it's rrrt to-r wry- position at the moment. it's hard to a way when you look hard to see a way when you look at hard to see a way when you look rt uter— hard to see a way when you look rt urer you— hard to see a way when you look at when you look— hard to see a way when you look at when you look at— hard to see a way when you look at when you look at sort of tortrerr— at when you look at sort of northern ireland and you look at wres— northern ireland and you look at wales-politics- northern ireland and you look at wales politics seems wales english politics seems gutte— wales english politics seems quite, straightforward at quite, quite straightforward at the quite, quite straightforward at tre rrorrert— quite, quite straightforward at the moment for— quite, quite straightforward at the moment for rishi sunak has got-uttr. — the moment for rishi sunak has got-with. there's- the moment for rishi sunak has got-with. there's a. the moment for rishi sunak has got with. got to deal with. there's a few protesters that major's protesters sad that john major's not there because he was a key figure before where he started this process while he was still prime blair took prime minister. tony blair took it prime minister. tony blair took ttltrttttrrtty— prime minister. tony blair took it.brilliantly and— prime minister. tony blair took it.brilliantly and not- 37�*” ii 7 tony blair took it brilliantly and not taking 37�*” ii 7 tony blair took it from antly and not taking 37�*” ii 7 tony blair took it from him, and not taking 37�*” ii 7 tony blair took it from him, but not taking 37�*” ii 7 tony blair took it from him, but he'staking 37�*” ii 7 tony blair took it from him, but he's notig away from him, but he's not wett— away from him, but he's not well. otherwise— away from him, but he's not well. otherwise would have well. otherwise he would have teer— well. otherwise he would have teer- — well. otherwise he would have teer- terr- well. otherwise he would have been- yeah,-is| been out there. yeah, that is thatis been out there. yeah, that is that is sad. he was a very big figure in it and in fact, all of the living former prime ministers were invited. and ministers were invited. ed, and sadly, make it. sadly, john major can't make it. and nor can david cameron or gordon brown, although liz truss
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will yeah. so there's will be there. yeah. so there's an action very good form in the house of commons. very good form. house of commons. very good torrr. trett— house of commons. very good form. well ulez,_ house of commons. very good form. well ulez, let's- very good form. well ulez, let's talk rtout— form. well ulez, let's talk rtout trrt— form. well ulez, let's talk about that for— form. well ulez, let's talk about that for a- form. well ulez, let's talk about that for a little while. rumor— about that for a little while. humza yousaf_ about that for a little while. humza yousaf scotland. - about that for a little while. humza yousaf scotland. scotland. sorry sorry. thank you for reminding me. don't it? humza vousrt— reminding me. don't it? humza vousrt rrt— reminding me. don't it? humza yousaf and wales.— reminding me. don't it? humza yousaf and wales. what- ”977 7r: 79 don't it? humza yousaf and wales. what did they do yousaf and wales. what did they to to— yousaf and wales. what did they to to reserve.— yousaf and wales. what did they do to deserve. sorry, we're jumping— do to deserve. sorry, we're jumping around- do to deserve. sorry, we're jumping around this morning, rert— jumping around this morning, rert wet — jumping around this morning, aren't we? humza- jumping around this morning, aren't we? 9. / aren't we? humza yousaf obviously had a tricky kind of maiden speech this week . how do maiden speech this week. how do you think he did? well, i mean, he you think he did? well, i mean, re uoutt— you think he did? well, i mean, he would make— you think he did? well, i mean, he would make a— you think he did? well, i mean, he would make a nod- you think he did? well, i mean, he would make a nod to- r: 97 well, i mean, he would make a nod to it, tttr-t— he would make a nod to it, tttr-t ret — he would make a nod to it, didn't he? he— he would make a nod to it, didn't he? ti; r: ”ti; he would make a nod to it, didn't he? ti; r: 7ti;”ti; ”ti; didn't he? he said there are challenges which come with being first and was first minister and there was a ripple of laughter around the world. completely world. yeah. i mean, completely impossible chances world. yeah. i mean, completely immaketle chances world. yeah. i mean, completely im make your chances world. yeah. i mean, completely im make your big chances world. yeah. i mean, completely im make your big speech chances world. yeah. i mean, completely immake your big speech oninces world. yeah. i mean, completely immake your big speech on your to make your big speech on your plans scotland in years plans for scotland in the years ahead . it almost completely went ahead. it almost completely went ureter— ahead. it almost completely went urter tre— ahead. it almost completely went under the radar— ahead. it almost completely went under the radar ._ ahead. it almost completely went under the radar . one— : it almost completely went under the radar. one thing i did trt— under the radar. one thing i did find interesting— under the radar. one thing i did find interesting was he didn't returtty— find interesting was he didn't actually talk— find interesting was he didn't actually talk about independence very— actually talk about independence very puer— actually talk about independence very much, which— actually talk about independence very much, which just shows the postttor—rrs- very much, which just shows the position—has got. position that the snp has got ttsett— position that the snp has got ttsett trto. — position that the snp has got itself into. one— position that the snp has got itself into. one of the reasons trrt— itself into. one of the reasons that-sturgeon - itself into. one of the reasons that sturgeon resigned that nicola sturgeon resigned rrt— that nicola sturgeon resigned rrt-trere— that nicola sturgeon resigned and-there-morel and perhaps there are more otvtous— and perhaps there are more obvious—nicolaj obvious reasons why nicola sturgeor— obvious reasons why nicola sturgeor-ts- obvious reasons why nicola. sturgeon-is-there sturgeon resigned is that there tttr-t— sturgeon resigned is that there tttr-t-te— sturgeon resigned is that there tttr-t-te r— sturgeon resigned is that there didn't-be a legal- sturgeon resigned is that there didn't be a legal route didn't seem to be a legal route to rrotrer— didn't seem to be a legal route to another referendum, which is of to another referendum, which is
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ot-urrt— to another referendum, which is ot-urrt sre— to another referendum, which is of what she wanted. she of course what she wanted. she trt— of course what she wanted. she trot-sre— of course what she wanted. she rrt-sre-tol of course what she wanted. she. had-she-to make had said that she wanted to make the had said that she wanted to make tre-gererrt— had said that she wanted to make the general election and the next general election and all subsequent— the next general election and all subsequent general elections trto— all subsequent general elections trto-tretr— all subsequent general elections into-facto reference- all subsequent general elections into facto reference . adams into de facto reference. adams art— into de facto reference. adams art trrt— into de facto reference. adams art trrt rs— into de facto reference. adams and that was not— into de facto reference. adams and that was not popular among the and that was not popular among tre srt,— and that was not popular among the snp, which— and that was not popular among the snp, which might have helped her the snp, which might have helped rer tr— the snp, which might have helped rer tr rer— the snp, which might have helped her in her decision— the snp, which might have helped her in her decision to resign . her in her decision to resign. tut— her in her decision to resign. tut tt— her in her decision to resign. tut tt rtso— her in her decision to resign. but it also leaves- her in her decision to resign. but it also leaves the snp in a very— but it also leaves the snp in a very ttttteutt— but it also leaves the snp in a very difficult position of not troutrg— very difficult position of not troutrg to— very difficult position of not knowing to how— very difficult position of not knowing to how proceed with tretr— knowing to how proceed with tretr re— knowing to how proceed with their new referendum. so humza vousrt— their new referendum. so humza yousaf actually— their new referendum. so humza yousaf actually was was focussed rrrtrty— yousaf actually was was focussed rrrtrty or— yousaf actually was was focussed mainly on domestic— yousaf actually was was focussed mainly on domestic scottish pottttes— mainly on domestic scottish politics, which— mainly on domestic scottish politics, which makes lviv you trtrt— politics, which makes lviv you trtrt ot— politics, which makes lviv you think of such— politics, which makes lviv you think of such a— politics, which makes lviv you think of such a catastrophic trrptostor— think of such a catastrophic implosion of— think of such a catastrophic implosion of a— think of such a catastrophic implosion of a ruling party in suer— implosion of a ruling party in suer r— implosion of a ruling party in suer r srort— implosion of a ruling party in such a short space of time? i utur-t— such a short space of time? i didn't believe— such a short space of time? i didn't believe a— such a short space of time? i didn't believe a word- such a short space of time? i didn't believe a word of- such a short space of time? i didn't believe a word of it when she said she was standing down because she'd run out of juice in the tank or whatever it was. i always thought it was to do with this police investigation, but god, husband arrested but by god, her husband arrested the lots of the treasurer, arrested lots of speculation what questions speculation about what questions she'll face. yeah, and she'll have to face. yeah, and there she'll have to face. yeah, and tree—sorre- she'll have to face. yeah, and. there—some people there are there are some people uttrtr— there are there are some people uttrtr-srr— there are there are some people within-snp who— there are there are some people within snp who are who are within the snp who are who are returtty— within the snp who are who are returttylor— within the snp who are who are actually .on watch - within the snp who are who are actually on watch for nicola actually on on watch for nicola sturgeor-s— actually on on watch for nicola sturgeon's arrest— actually on on watch for nicola sturgeon's arrest in the sturgeon's arrest itself in the eorrtrg— sturgeon's arrest itself in the eorrtrg days— sturgeon's arrest itself in the coming days and— sturgeon's arrest itself in the coming days and it's really trteresttrg— coming days and it's really interesting to— coming days and it's really interesting to see the extent to utter— interesting to see the extent to utter tre — interesting to see the extent to
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which the snp _ interesting to see the extent to which the snp which was such a urttet— which the snp which was such a urttet partvr— which the snp which was such a urttet prrty, ue— which the snp which was such a united party, we never saw any spttts— united party, we never saw any spttts trorr — united party, we never saw any splits from within— united party, we never saw any splits from within the snp rtgrer— splits from within the snp higher echelons. well there are spttts— higher echelons. well there are now splits absolutely everywhere . str— now splits absolutely everywhere . srt sertor— now splits absolutely everywhere . snp senior officials are trtettrg— . snp senior officials are briefing left,— . snp senior officials are briefing left, right and centre rgrtrst— briefing left, right and centre against humza— briefing left, right and centre against humza yousaf for not susperttrg— against humza yousaf for not suspending nicola sturgeon from the suspending nicola sturgeon from tre str— suspending nicola sturgeon from tre srt rro— suspending nicola sturgeon from the snp and her— suspending nicola sturgeon from the snp and her husband and her rustrrt— the snp and her husband and her rustrrt .— the snp and her husband and her rustrrt . so— the snp and her husband and her husband . so yeah,— the snp and her husband and her husband . so yeah, they are husband. so yeah, they are rertty— husband. so yeah, they are really showing— husband. so yeah, they are really showing the irony in ttrs— really showing the irony in trts. — really showing the irony in trts. r— really showing the irony in trts. r keep— really showing the irony in this. 79 really showing the irony in- this. i keep thinking about kate forbes who looked like she'd been defenestrated from that leadership battle and it looked like her sort of snp frontline career was kind of juddering to an end. she's now waiting in the wings. she is looking a little bit cleaner than the rest of them and might actually come back good time because back in good time because she wasn't for a lot of these wasn't around for a lot of these terrible taken terrible decisions were taken and a lot and actually i think look, a lot of people were saying how can she minister of she be first minister of scotland because her views? scotland because of her views? yeah, because she doesn't tetteve— yeah, because she doesn't believe . sex _ yeah, because she doesn't believe . sex - of i believe in sex outside of rrrrrtreg— believe in sex outside of marriage. doesn't believe in sex outside of marriage.-doesn't in marriage. she doesn't believe in same-partnership.- marriage. she doesn't believe in same partnership. what same sex partnership. so what toesr-t—yourl doesn't stop you doing your job? art— doesn't stop you doing your job? art-gutte— doesn't stop you doing your job? and-quite popular- doesn't stop you doing your job? and quite popular in and she is quite popular in seottrrt— and she is quite popular in scotland as— and she is quite popular in scotland as a— and she is quite popular in scotland as a whole, if not for tre— scotland as a whole, if not for tre str— scotland as a whole, if not for the snp membership, tories, the snp membership, the tories, the snp membership, the tories, tre—r— the snp membership, the tories,
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tre—riot- the snp membership, the tories, tre—riot toryl the tories do fear a lot of tory otes— the tories do fear a lot of tory otes r— the tories do fear a lot of tory votes, i think,— the tories do fear a lot of tory votes, i think, whereas humza vousrt— votes, i think, whereas humza vousrt ts— votes, i think, whereas humza vousrt ts rs— votes, i think, whereas humza yousaf is, as they— votes, i think, whereas humza yousaf is, as they say, useless rtgrt. — yousaf is, as they say, useless rtgrt. _0kavr| yousaf is, as they say, useless. rtgrt. _0kavr get right. thanks, olivia. okay, get back to training for the marathon off you do a three marathon off you go. do a three hours, minutes. your first hours, 20 minutes. your first one. second one. she's fine. one. my second one. she's fine. wrrt— one. my second one. she's fine. wrrt rs— one. my second one. she's fine. wrrt your— one. my second one. she's fine. what was your first— one. mgr 9: she's fine. what was your first one? tutrturgt— what was your first one? edinburgh did— what was your first one? r: 9 r: r: 333 remarkable what was your first one? - edinburgh did 333. remarkable . edinburgh did 333. remarkable. that's edinburgh did 333. remarkable. trrt-s errstrg— edinburgh did 333. remarkable. that's chasing around- r: 9 r: r: 333 remarkable. that's chasing around after trose— that's chasing around after trose arts— that's chasing around after those mps every day. it keeps you— those mps every day. it keeps you trt— those mps every day. it keeps you fit, doesn't— those mps every day. it keeps you fit, doesn't now the you fit, doesn't it? now the rrttorrt— you fit, doesn't it? now the national famous you fit, doesn't it? now the. national-famous for national lottery is famous for supporttrg— national lottery is famous for supporting causes, a gb supporting good causes, but a gb reus— supporting good causes, but a gb news investigation— supporting good causes, but a gb news investigation has revealed the-lottery— news investigation has revealed the lottery heritage the national lottery heritage turt— the national lottery heritage. turd—support fund has been used to support pottttert— fund has been used to support political including political causes, including a speeer— political causes, including a speech described speech that described conservative - speech that described conservative politicians as tevtts. — conservative politicians as devils. which— conservative politicians as devils. �*fo�* 7 97 7 gb news conservative politicians as- devils. which ones ? gb news is? devils. which ones? gb news is? errrtte— devils. which ones? gb news is? charlie peters— devils. which ones? gb news is? charlie peters has— devils. which ones? gb news is? charlie peters has this— charlie peters has this exclusive _ charlie peters has this exclusive report . what would you exclusive report. what would you do exclusive report. what would you to rrtr— exclusive report. what would you to uttr str— exclusive report. what would you do with six figure— exclusive report. what would you do with six figure lottery utrrtrgs— do with six figure lottery utrrtrgs t — do with six figure lottery winnings ? 9 : do with six figure lottery- winnings ? it's a question lots winnings? it's a question lots of britons dream about answering. but for a collection of activists that dream became a reality in 2021, when the national lottery heritage fund awarded almost £250,000 to a group called 81 acts of exuberant defiance , the social exuberant defiance, the social change project was launched with support from campaign group the
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jubilee initiative , to mark the jubilee initiative, to mark the 1981 brixton riots . the money 1981 brixton riots. the money has helped the group put on 81 different events, which call on people to resist the whitening of our history. but gb news can reveal that some of the lottery funding has gone towards supporting a political speech by an activist breaching the fund's rules. campaigner stafford scott gave a talk at a brixton venue earlier this month which accused the royal family of being involved in slavery . he he involved in slavery. he he slammed the met as a gang executing black kids and said the government's crackdown on gangs was fascism . scott used gangs was fascism. scott used his lottery funded talk to describe boris johnson and other politicians as devils. and this man , this devil— politicians as devils. and this man , this devil you- 9 9 r:ti; and this man , this devil you know mopac man, this devil you know mopac rgrtr— man, this devil you know mopac rtgrtt vou— man, this devil you know mopac right? you need— man, this devil you know mopac right? you need to— man, this devil you know mopac right? you need to know them. tre — right? you need to know them. tre tert— right? you need to know them. tre tevtt ts— right? you need to know them. the devil is they— right? you need to know them. the devil is they are devils. art— the devil is they are devils. art rrr— the devil is they are devils. art r-rr gotrg— the devil is they are devils. and i'm going to show you that trey-re— and i'm going to show you that trey-re revis— and i'm going to show you that they're devils. this— and i'm going to show you that they're devils. this woman erttet— they're devils. this woman called sophie— they're devils. this woman called sophie linden. she's the deputy— called sophie linden. she's the teputy arryor— called sophie linden. she's the teputy arryor tor— called sophie linden. she's the deputy mayor for policing right ttgrtt— deputy mayor for policing right now, right? she— deputy mayor for policing right now, right? she devil tory mp
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trertrr— now, right? she devil tory mp brendan clarke—smith said that tottery— brendan clarke—smith said that tottery turttrg— brendan clarke—smith said that lottery funding should not be user— lottery funding should not be uset to— lottery funding should not be used to promote— lottery funding should not be used to promote political causes as used to promote political causes rs uett. — used to promote political causes rs uett. ttrs— used to promote political causes as well. this is— used to promote political causes as well. this is the— used to promote political causes as well. 7 as well. this is the problem, isn't it? i think when people play isn't it? i think when people play the lottery, they want to see that money go into good causes a lot of it does , of causes and a lot of it does, of course, we want to that course, and we want to see that spentin course, and we want to see that spent in our communities properly. what we don't want to see used is these see it being used for is these political causes, things that actually tension in actually cause more tension in the think the community. and i think that's really, really that's why it's really, really important to look at important not just to look at the applications, the the applications, but the organisations well, make organisations as well, to make sure happen in sure that this doesn't happen in future. the national lottery heritage fund do not heritage fund said they do not define heritage. they leave it up to— define heritage. they leave it up to rpptterrts— define heritage. they leave it up to applicants to— 9ti; 9 they leave it up to applicants to make their own understanding what is. own understanding of what it is. do own understanding of what it is. to-trrt— own understanding of what it is. to-trrt ttrs- own understanding of what it is. do -that this -that| do you think that this talk that turret— do you think that this talk that was funded £4,000 as was funded £4,000 counts as rerttrge— was funded £4,000 counts as rerttrge ttr— was funded £4,000 counts as heritage erg well, heritage can r tot— heritage erg well, heritage can r tot ot— heritage erg well, heritage can mean a lot of things, as we've srtt— mean a lot of things, as we've srtt tretr— mean a lot of things, as we've said there,-don't- mean a lot of things, as we've said there, don't think said there, but i don't think rrrry— said there, but i don't think rrrry-uoutt- said there, but i don't think many would call this many people would call this rerttrge— many people would call this heritage-all. _ many people would call this heritage all. ' 79 9 heritage at all. and as i said, we want that to be spent we want that money to be spent properly. think a lot of properly. i think a lot of people feel very let down. certainly seeing some of the comments been made comments that have been made and where is going. but where that money is going. but i think this is a problem think this is a wider problem that we've here. i mean, we
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that we've got here. i mean, we have charities, we have community companies have charities, we have comireally' companies have charities, we have comireally are companies have charities, we have comireally are vehiclesipanies have charities, we have comireally are vehicles fornies that really are vehicles for some political views some quite nasty political views . this not really where . and this is not really where money be it's not money should be going. it's not in spirit of the sector. and in the spirit of the sector. and i something needs to be i think something needs to be done a national done about it. a national lottery— done about it. a national lottery heritage- 9 9 a national lottery heritage fund spokesperson said that its turttrg— spokesperson said that its. funding—used spokesperson said that its- funding_used to funding should not be used to promote— funding should not be used to promote political— promote political beliefs, rtttrg— promote political beliefs, adding _ been. promote political beliefs,| adding—been in promote political beliefs,- adding_been in touch adding that it had been in touch rrtr— adding that it had been in touch with—initiative- with the jubilee initiative to ttseuss— with the jubilee initiative to discuss - project- with the jubilee initiative to discuss project would with the jubilee initiative to- discuss - project would be discuss how the project would be tettveret. — discuss how the project would be delivered. they— discuss how the project would be delivered. they say— discuss how the project would be delivered. they say that your roots— delivered. they say that your odds ot— delivered. they say that your odds of winning— delivered. they say that your odds of winning the lottery are 1 in 45,000,000,— odds of winning the lottery are 1 in 45,000,000, but it seems trrt— 1 in 45,000,000, but it seems trrt tre— 1 in 45,000,000, but it seems that the chances— 1 in 45,000,000, but it seems that the chances of your £1 going— that the chances of your £1 going towards— that the chances of your £1 going towards funding political rettvtsts— going towards funding political rettvtsts ts— going towards funding political activists is much— going towards funding political activists is much higher. errrtte— activists is much higher. charlie peters- activists is much higher. charlie peters gb news brixton . charlie peters gb news brixton. so charlie peters gb news brixton. so stttt— charlie peters gb news brixton. so stttt to— charlie peters gb news brixton. so still to come,— charlie peters gb news brixton. so still to come, the snp is in tumor— so still to come, the snp is in turrrott rrtr— so still to come, the snp is in turmoil with some— so still to come, the snp is in turmoil with some calling it a rretttour. — turmoil with some calling it a meltdown. 9 turmoil with some calling it a meltdown. 79 meltdown. following the arrests of sturgeon's husband and the party treasurer. that's next on gb news britain's news channel. join me patrick christys monday to friday three till six. we tackle the day's news- ” 97 ”r97:i;r:i; 9 99 74k we tackle the day's news agenda trte— tackle the day's news agenda ttte you— tackle the day's news agenda like you've never— tackle the day's news agenda like you've never seen before. its like you've never seen before. rts rtgr— like you've never seen before. rts rtgr tempo.— like you've never seen before. its high tempo, high octane. the most— its high tempo, high octane. the most controversial— its high tempo, high octane. the most controversial topics and tre— most controversial topics and tre test— most controversial topics and the best guests. _ most controversial topics and the best guests. you will not be rtte— the best guests. you will not be rtteltrte— the best guests. you will not be able-take your— the best guests. you will not be
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able take your eyes and ears able to take your eyes and ears off able to take your eyes and ears ottlr-rr— able to take your eyes and ears ottlr-rr rot— able to take your eyes and ears off-i'm not afraid— able to take your eyes and ears off i'm not afraid to ask off it. i'm not afraid to ask tre— off it. i'm not afraid to ask the questions— off it. i'm not afraid to ask the questions that you really urrt— the questions that you really want answered.— the questions that you really want answered. three till 6 pm. arortry— want answered. three till 6 pm. arortry-or— want answered. three till 6 pm. arortry-or et- want answered. three till 6 pm. monday on gb news. the monday to friday on gb news. the reopte-s— monday to friday on gb news. the people's channel,— monday to friday on gb news. the people's channel, britain's news
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well . good morning. it is 10 well. good morning. it is 10 am. on wednesday,- �*fttti;99 99 79 it is 10 am. on wednesday, the 19th of apr.— a.m. on wednesday, the 19th of aprtt. ttrs— a.m. on wednesday, the 19th of apr. trts ts— a.m. on wednesday, the 19th of april. this is to— am. on wednesday, the 19th of april. this is to the point with ter— april. this is to the point with me, bev turner— april. this is to the point with me, bev turner and andrew pierce on me, bev turner and andrew pierce or or— me, bev turner and andrew pierce or or reus- — me, bev turner and andrew pierce on gb news. now— me, bev turner and andrew pierce on gb news. \tt7rt ”ti; me, bev turner and andrew pierce on gb news. mm ”ti; 79 on gb news. now we're talking sunak. he's talking tough on eco protesters. they should be
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ashamed of themselves, he says. haven't this all haven't we heard this all before? now. the before? particularly now. the london marathon under london marathon is under possible and another possible threat and another month of double digit price rises. we've all noticed it with the rises. we've all noticed it with tre eost— rises. we've all noticed it with tre eost ot— rises. we've all noticed it with the cost of food— rises. we've all noticed it with the cost of food still- ” we've all noticed it with the cost of food still surging, are the cost of food still surging, tre— the cost of food still surging, are the supermarkets protecting prottts— are the supermarkets protecting prottts rt— are the supermarkets protecting prottts rt tre— are the supermarkets protecting profits at the expense of us ? profits at the expense of us? art— profits at the expense of us? art ts— profits at the expense of us? and is nicola— profits at the expense of us? and is nicola sturgeon going to gutt— and is nicola sturgeon going to out tre— and is nicola sturgeon going to putt tre prrty— and is nicola sturgeon going to quit the party altogether that she quit the party altogether that sre tet— quit the party altogether that sre tet tor— quit the party altogether that she led for years? �*fttti; ”ti; 97 79 she led for years? we're going to be discussing motorhome donations, arrests and whether the former first minister has any future. she hasn't. and the coronation cross will contain sharp aids used in christ's crusade fiction, or so we're told. we'll have the latest on retes— told. we'll have the latest on rettes rrt— told. we'll have the latest on relics and royalty— told. we'll have the latest on relics and royalty ._ 9t799 we'll have the latest on relics and royalty . when we say relics and royalty. when we say rettes.— relics and royalty. when we say rettes. trey-re— relics and royalty. when we say relics, they're that— relics and royalty. when we say relics, they're that picture of pure— relics, they're that picture of prince charles. _ relics, they're that picture of prince charles. �*fttti; 9 7 9 7 prince charles. we don't mean we don't know the king. to be clear, we're talking- 9 7 9 79 to be clear, we're talking about rrtree— clear, we're talking about prince charles— clear, we're talking about prince charles now, king errrtes.— prince charles now, king charles, i'm— prince charles now, king charles, i'm not going to sleep trst— charles, i'm not going to sleep trst rtgtt— charles, i'm not going to sleep last night. right.— charles, i'm not going to sleep last night. right. let us know your— last night. right. let us know you-or— last night. right. let us know your on everything your thoughts on everything l we're—morning. we're discussing this morning. gb we're discussing this morning. or vteus— we're discussing this morning. or vteus rt— we're discussing this morning. gb views at gb— we're discussing this morning. gb views at gb news. .uk is the
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errrtt— gb views at gb news. .uk is the email address. _ gb views at gb news. .uk is the email address. but— gb views at gb news. .uk is the email address. but first of all, rere— email address. but first of all, rere re— email address. but first of all, rere your— email address. but first of all, here are your news headlines rrtr— here are your news headlines uttr arror— here are your news headlines uttr arror .— here are your news headlines uttr arror . — here are your news headlines with aaron . good- here are your news headlines with aaron . 99 79 9 with aaron. good morning. it's 10:00. i'm arron armstrong in the gb newsroom. food prices have risen to a 45 year high, putting further pressure on families struggling with the rising cost of living inflation has defied predictions by remaining above 10, largely because of soaring prices of essentials like bread, milk and eggs, along with clothes and shoes. eggs, along with clothes and shoes . cars which have only been shoes. cars which have only been partly offset by cheaper energy. it makes another interest rate rise from the bank of england next month more likely. the chancellor says the government will continue to focus on driving down inflation. well, this is a small headline- 9” 79 9 well, this is a small headline fall, tut— this is a small headline fall, tut tt— this is a small headline fall, but it disguises— this is a small headline fall, but it disguises a large rise in toot— but it disguises a large rise in food inflation,— but it disguises a large rise in food inflation, which is causing pressure to— food inflation, which is causing pressure to families up and down the pressure to families up and down tre eourtry— pressure to families up and down tre eourtry rs— pressure to families up and down the country as they— pressure to families up and down the country as they see their erst— the country as they see their eost ot— the country as they see their cost of their— the country as they see their cost of their weekly food shop go cost of their weekly food shop 90 up— cost of their weekly food shop 90 up -_ cost of their weekly food shop go up . art— cost of their weekly food shop go up . art tt— cost of their weekly food shop go up . and it shows that there go up. and it shows that there is go up. and it shows that there ts ro— go up. and it shows that there ts ro suer— go up. and it shows that there is no such thing— go up. and it shows that there is no such thing as an automatic
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tru— is no such thing as an automatic trtt tr— is no such thing as an automatic trtt tr tre— is no such thing as an automatic fall in the headline— is no such thing as an automatic fall in the headline rate of trttrttor. — fall in the headline rate of inflation. that's why we have a ptrr— inflation. that's why we have a ptrr. art— inflation. that's why we have a ptrr. art tt— inflation. that's why we have a plan. and if we're— inflation. that's why we have a plan. and if we're going to reueet— plan. and if we're going to reduce that— plan. and if we're going to reduce that pressure on trrrtttes— reduce that pressure on families, it's- reduce that pressure on families, it's absolutely essential— families, it's absolutely essential that we stick to that ptrr— essential that we stick to that ptrr rrt— essential that we stick to that ptrr rrt ue— essential that we stick to that plan and we see— essential that we stick to that plan and we see it through so trrt— plan and we see it through so trrt ue— plan and we see it through so that we halve— plan and we see it through so that we halve inflation this terr— that we halve inflation this yerr .— that we halve inflation this yerr . rs— that we halve inflation this yerr . rs tre— that we halve inflation this year , as the prime minister has year, as the prime minister has prorrtset— year, as the prime minister has prorrtset .— year, as the prime minister has prorrtset . tre— year, as the prime minister has promised , the government's plans promised, the government's plans for promised, the government's plans tor rr— promised, the government's plans tor rr rsyturr— promised, the government's plans for an asylum centre in essex utt— for an asylum centre in essex uttt te— for an asylum centre in essex will be challenged in the high court— will be challenged in the high court trter. — will be challenged in the high court later. 79”t:i;t:i; “a ~7r9”t99 court later. braintree district council argues the proposed site at raf wethersfield is unsuitable due to its isolated location and lack of capacity for local services. the government says using disused military bases to accommodate migrants will reduce reliance on hotels . the sacked boss of the hotels. the sacked boss of the cbi says his reputation has been totally destroyed following misconduct allegations . tony misconduct allegations. tony danker was dismissed last week over claims he sent staff members unsolicited messages . members unsolicited messages. and while he's apologised for conduct that may have made colleagues very uncomfortable, mr danker says he's been wrongly associated with separate
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allegations, including rape, which predate his time at the cbi. he claims he's been made a fall guy for a wider crisis within britain's biggest business lobbying group . the business lobbying group. the prime minister says climate disruptors should be ashamed of themselves , as rishi sunak's themselves, as rishi sunak's comments comes after activists disrupted the world snooker championship on monday and the grand national at the weekend. while speaking to the sun, the prime minister says those who disrupt sporting events ruin the hard work of others and should be ashamed of their selfish behaviour . be ashamed of their selfish behaviour. well, meanwhile, the prime minister will deliver a closing address at a conference in belfast later to commemorate the 25th anniversary of the good friday agreement. rishi sunak will vow to give everything to tackle the problems of a divided society in northern ireland when he speaks at queen's university later. now the dup leader , sir later. now the dup leader, sir jeffrey donaldson, maintains that unionist concerns around the protocol must be addressed,
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are refusing to go back into power, sharing the shadow northern ireland secretary peter kyle told gb news the anniversary should be celebrated. people seem to be toeustrg— celebrated. people seem to be toeustrg or— celebrated. people seem to be focusing on the— 99 people seem to be focusing on the political challenges— focusing on the political challenges we have in stormont at challenges we have in stormont rt tre— challenges we have in stormont at the moment,— challenges we have in stormont at the moment, but don't forget trrt— at the moment, but don't forget trrt at— at the moment, but don't forget trrt at yerrs— at the moment, but don't forget that 25 years ago,— at the moment, but don't forget that 25 years ago, the good trttry— that 25 years ago, the good friday agreement delivered pee— friday agreement delivered pee tt— friday agreement delivered peace. it ended— friday agreement delivered peace. it ended armed civil eortttet— peace. it ended armed civil conflict. here— peace. it ended armed civil conflict. here in— peace. it ended armed civil conflict. here in northern tretrrt— conflict. here in northern ireland and— conflict. here in northern ireland and it's been incredibly suessutt — ireland and it's been incredibly successful. it's— ireland and it's been incredibly successful. it's been an erturtrg— successful. it's been an enduring peace. of course, the pottttes— enduring peace. of course, the pottttes rrs— enduring peace. of course, the politics has been— enduring peace. of course, the politics has been harder to rerteve— politics has been harder to achieve and— politics has been harder to achieve and some of the institutions— achieve and some of the institutions set up by the good trttry— institutions set up by the good friday agreement— institutions set up by the good friday agreement are not up and rurrtrg— friday agreement are not up and rurrtrg rt— friday agreement are not up and rurrtrg rt tre— friday agreement are not up and running at the moment. that's sorretrtrg— something that perhaps we'll wett— something that perhaps we'll wet-rtout.— something that perhaps we'll we'll-about. but- something that perhaps we'll we'll about. but we should we'll talk about. but we should never achievements never forget the achievements trrt— never forget the achievements trrtwee— never forget the achievements that were were _ never forget the achievements that were were delivered by that trrtrstte— that were were delivered by that fantastic generation. 25 years ago— fantastic generation. 25 years rgo . — fantastic generation. 25 years rgo . rte— fantastic generation. 25 years ago . the labour- fantastic generation. 25 years ago. fantastic generation. 25 years ago . ” ago. the labour leader has pledged to bring back tony blair style nhs targets to cut waiting times for patients . sir keir times for patients. sir keir starmer has set out his vision for reform and rebuilding health care ahead of the general elections . potentially the local elections. potentially the local elections. potentially the local elections next month , i should
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elections next month, i should say. speaking to the telegraph , say. speaking to the telegraph, sir keir says he would bring back single sex hospital wards and follow a target driven system. he has also accused conservatives of breaking the nhs system, but the government says it's working to cut the waiting lists . the former waiting lists. the former holyrood finance secretary says the snp is facing a critical moment and needs urgent action . moment and needs urgent action. kate forbes, who was defeated in the leadership contest to succeed nicola sturgeon, has spoken out following an investigation into the party's finances. it colin beattie is the second person to have been questioned by police. they are trying to establish how more than £600,000 in donations was set aside for an independence referendum. has been used earlier this month the snp's former chief executive , peter former chief executive, peter murrell, was questioned for more than 11 hours by detectives as some parts of england are becoming so—called dental deserts or dental deserts. i
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should say following the nhs dentist shortage . that's dentist shortage. that's according to the liberal democrats who say some areas have a 3000 people per nhs dentist. while the party is calling for affordable dental care. but the government says it's preparing to announce further measures to improve access to nhs dental surgeries . access to nhs dental surgeries. former cabinet ministers say a new deal on worker sick pay is necessary . priti patel and sir necessary. priti patel and sir robert buckland are calling for simple tweaks to statutory sick pay - simple tweaks to statutory sick pay . they say simple tweaks to statutory sick pay. they say making simple tweaks to statutory sick pay . they say making sure people pay. they say making sure people are paid from day one would boost the economy . latest boost the economy. latest figures show an all time high of 2.5 million people off work due to long term sickness . and the to long term sickness. and the king's coronation procession will be led by a cross that includes relics given by the pope. king charles was given two shards of the true cross by pope francis to mark the occasion, it is said to be the same cross
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used in the crucifixion of jesus christ . but the small fragments christ. but the small fragments of it have been incorporated into the cross of wales, which will be seen by millions as it is carried into westminster abbey . this is gb news more as abbey. this is gb news more as it happens. now it's back to bev and . and. andrew so? so the and. andrew— . so? so the government rru. arurew— - so? so the government stopped so? so the government stopped the - so? so the government stopped tre-rottw— . so? so the government stopped the-policy involves- the boats. policy involves getttrg— the boats. policy involves getting people out of hotels, tttegrt— getting people out of hotels, illegal migrants of hotels illegal migrants out of hotels rrt—rrttttrwi and putting them in military tses— and putting them in military tses errrps— and putting them in military bases, camps and braintree eourett— bases, camps and braintree eourett tow— bases, camps and braintree council tory controlled ed has rpptter— council tory controlled ed has now applied for— council tory controlled ed has now applied for an injunction to rrtt— now applied for an injunction to rrtt rt.— now applied for an injunction to rrtt tt. tre— now applied for an injunction to halt it. the local— now applied for an injunction to halt it. the local mp happens to be halt it. the local mp happens to te r— halt it. the local mp happens to te r rrerrert— halt it. the local mp happens to be a member of— halt it. the local mp happens to be a member of the cabinet, no ress— be a member of the cabinet, no tess .— be a member of the cabinet, no tess . trrres— be a member of the cabinet, no less . james cleverly, the less. james cleverly, the toretgr— less. james cleverly, the foreign secretary. that's ridiculous. _ foreign secretary. that's ridiculous. o” r9.r:i; ridiculous. the home office plans still plans to use sites in essex. we just mentioned lincolnshire and east sussex to provide accommodation to several thousand asylum seekers. matt white is our home security
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edhon white is our home security editor, morning , mark. are you editor, morning, mark. are you where are you at court.- 79 are you where are you at court. are you in where are you at court. are you tr tssext— where are you at court. are you tr tssext or.— where are you at court. are you in essex? oh, you're at the high court— in essex? oh, you're at the high court . — in essex? oh, you're at the high court . vert— in essex? oh, you're at the high court . yeah. good— in essex? oh, you're at the high court. / 99 79 in essex? oh, you're at the high court. / 7 99 79 court. yeah. good morning to you both down at the high court. this really is a very important case for the government to win because it's really crucial in terms of the plans to push ahead with with more purpose built larger accommodation centres for asylum seekers that can stop the government's overall guidance on hotels. we currently have 51,000 asylum seekers in hundreds of hotels right across the country at a cost of more than £6 million a day. that is unsustainable, according to prime minister rishi sunak and home secretary suella braverman . so the battle today is all about the former raf base at wethersfield near braintree . wethersfield near braintree. plans there to house up to 1800 asylum seekers on that
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particular former raf station. the local council, local people in the village of wethersfield and surrounding areas say it's completely inappropriate because there are no facilities. i was down there a few weeks ago. there is one very small village shop and nothing else for these young male asylum seekers to do. they would not be detained in the base. it's not a detention centre . they would be allowed to centre. they would be allowed to wander in and around wethersfield and indeed go further afield . it's completely further afield. it's completely sort of unsuitable according to those campaigns airs and that's what they will be arguing in the court. but what the government is effectively going to declare a national emergency today as far as the small boats crisis base is concerned, this would allow them to adopt class. q in response . so this class. q order
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response. so this class. q order effectively gives the government that in an emergency situation , that in an emergency situation, the power to overrule any objector actions by local planners , by local authorities, planners, by local authorities, as long as the development is on as long as the development is on a crown estate on government owned land such as this ministry of defence site, it will be up to the courts, of course, whether they accept that as an argument from the government isn't pretty embarrassed for rishi sunak isn't it? when one of the rishi sunak isn't it? when one ot tre rrost— rishi sunak isn't it? when one of the most outspoken- 397 9 97 when one of the most outspoken opponents of the most outspoken opponents ot ttrs— of the most outspoken opponents ot trts ptrr— of the most outspoken opponents ot trts ptrr ts— of the most outspoken opponents of this plan is his— of the most outspoken opponents of this plan is his own foreign seeretrrw — of this plan is his own foreign secretary? well,— of this plan is his own foreign secretary? �*ftti;99 ”ti; of this plan is his own foreign secretary? �*ftti;99 ”t97ti;:i; secretary? well, there's no doubt , of course, local secretary? well, there's no doubt, of course, local mps right across the country and the foreign secretary is one in have very difficult decisions to make as to whether to go with government policy, which he absolutely rightly should do in absolutely rightly should do in a collective cabinet, but also with an eye to the very deep anger that there is among his own constituents . but make no own constituents. but make no mistake, this is vital for the
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government in this policy of trying to come up with a solution that stops this overreliance on hotels, which have angered many, many people right across the country . right across the country. because what you have, especially in smaller communities, is sometimes is the only facility in that community in the form of a hotel which is used for weddings, funeral halls, other sort of public events that, of course, attracts tourists and other visitors to a location being taken out of commission, being handed over to the home office , effectively for the home office, effectively for a year, maybe two years, to house these migrants. so the government knows that that is a very unpopular policy. government knows that that is a very unpopular policy . they need very unpopular policy. they need to find solutions. one way of doing that is these bigger purpose built or adapted detention or i should say accommodation centres. they've faced such stiff opposition in, though every time they try to do this. you remember andrew and
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bev linton on ouse last year in yorkshire, the raaf base there, a big public campaign against that. the local council threatened legal action. the government backed down. remember the plans to put asylum seekers in butlins holiday camps ? big in butlins holiday camps? big opposition campaigns and the government backed down. also a university up in hull, big protests again and the government backed down. they can't keep doing this if they are to find a solution to the overreliance on hotels . okay. overreliance on hotels. okay. thank you, mark.— overreliance on hotels. okay. thank you, mark. mark- 77 okay. thank you, mark. mark white. trey-re— thank you, mark. mark white. they're fascinating, isn't it? ttrs— they're fascinating, isn't it? trts ts— they're fascinating, isn't it? this is such— they're fascinating, isn't it? this is such a— they're fascinating, isn't it? this is such a significant it is totrw— this is such a significant it is totrw .— this is such a significant it is case today , but— this is such a significant it is case today , but james cleverly case today, but james cleverly rrs— case today, but james cleverly rrs r— case today, but james cleverly rrs r attor— case today, but james cleverly has a 25,000 majority in braintree. _ has a 25,000 majority in braintree. he's- has a 25,000 majority in braintree. he's obviously worried that this could cost him his seat at the next election. so he's thinking of a local as a local mp rather than a member of the cabinet. okay the latest trttrttor— the cabinet. okay the latest inflation figures— the cabinet. okay the latest inflation figures have- [as/97g the latest inflation figures have been reterset— inflation figures have been released showing that the rate fell released showing that the rate tett to— released showing that the rate tett to torto— released showing that the rate fell to 10.1% month, down fell to 10.1% last month, down sttgrttw— fell to 10.1% last month, down sttgrttw trorr — fell to 10.1% last month, down slightly from 10.4% in february . wto-s— slightly from 10.4% in february . wto-s gotrg— slightly from 10.4% in february . who's going to— slightly from 10.4% in february . who's going to give- slightly from 10.4% in february . who's going to give us some more insight into this is our
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very own economics and business editor liam halligan . thanks, editor liam halligan. thanks, andrew and bev.— t:i;t9 977 thanks, andrew and bev. inflation ti;t9 977 thanks, andrew and bev. inflation did stav— andrew and bev. inflation did stay stubbornly— andrew and bev. inflation did stay stubbornly high during the wer— stay stubbornly high during the werr to— stay stubbornly high during the werr to toret— stay stubbornly high during the year to march 10.1. a lot of peopte— year to march 10.1. a lot of peopte rot— year to march 10.1. a lot of people not least- year to march 10.1. a lot of people not least a lot of people in people not least a lot of people tr towrtrg— people not least a lot of people in downing street,— people not least a lot of people in downing street, were hoping trrt— in downing street, were hoping that inflation— in downing street, were hoping that inflation would finally trrt— that inflation would finally trtt tret— that inflation would finally fall back into— that inflation would finally fall back into single digits. tre— fall back into single digits. tre tret— fall back into single digits. the fact that— fall back into single digits. the fact that it— fall back into single digits. the fact that it hasn't means trrt— the fact that it hasn't means trrt trere-s— the fact that it hasn't means that there's more— the fact that it hasn't means that there's more likely to be an that there's more likely to be rr trterest— that there's more likely to be an interest rate— that there's more likely to be an interest rate rise when the trrt— an interest rate rise when the trrt ot— an interest rate rise when the bank of england— an interest rate rise when the bank of england meets next rrortr. — bank of england meets next rrortr. tet-s— bank of england meets next month. let's have a little look at month. let's have a little look rt tre— month. let's have a little look at the detailed _ month. let's have a little look at the detailed data so you can trrt— at the detailed data so you can trrt tr— at the detailed data so you can see that in october— at the detailed data so you can see that in october 2022, trttrttor— see that in october 2022, inflation peaked at 11.7. it came down to— inflation peaked at 11.7. it came down to 10.7, 10.5 in tetrurw— came down to 10.7, 10.5 in tetrurw .— came down to 10.7, 10.5 in february , inflation was 10.4. it february, inflation was 10.4. it wert— february, inflation was 10.4. it wert up— february, inflation was 10.4. it wert up rrt— february, inflation was 10.4. it went up and now— february, inflation was 10.4. it went up and now it's10.1. this rrortr— went up and now it's10.1. this rrortr .— went up and now it's10.1. this rrortr . art— went up and now it's10.1. this month . and there— went up and now it's10.1. this month . and there are those month. and there are those rutes— month. and there are those rutes ts— month. and there are those numbers is what's actually trtwrg— numbers is what's actually driving inflation. in march zozs— driving inflation. in march zoos. rts— driving inflation. in march 2023. it's basically housing and it's 2023. it's basically housing and tt-s uttttttes— 2023. it's basically housing and it's utilities and— 2023. it's basically housing and it's utilities and it's the cost of it's utilities and it's the cost ot toot.— it's utilities and it's the cost of food, housing— it's utilities and it's the cost of food, housing and housing
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serwtees— of food, housing and housing services. they're— of food, housing and housing services. they're up 26.6% in wret— services. they're up 26.6% in march compared— services. they're up 26.6% in march compared to march 2022. now— march compared to march 2022. wow. trrt— march compared to march 2022. now, that number— march compared to march 2022. now, that number does include uttttttes— now, that number does include uttttttes .— now, that number does include utilities , many— now, that number does include utilities , many of— now, that number does include utilities , many of you will say, utilities, many of you will say, tut— utilities, many of you will say, tut my— utilities, many of you will say, but my utilities— utilities, many of you will say, but my utilities have gone up by truer— but my utilities have gone up by much more than— but my utilities have gone up by much more than 26. and they rrwe. — much more than 26. and they rrwe. art— much more than 26. and they have. and that's— much more than 26. and they have. and that's why i persorrttw— have. and that's why i personally think that that ute— personally think that that ute ts— personally think that that number is an— personally think that that number is an underestimate. the tetrttet— number is an underestimate. the detailed utility— number is an underestimate. the detailed utility data , the cost detailed utility data, the cost of detailed utility data, the cost ot retrtt— detailed utility data, the cost ot retrtt grs— detailed utility data, the cost of retail gas and— detailed utility data, the cost of retail gas and electricity. trose— of retail gas and electricity. those numbers— of retail gas and electricity. those numbers will be released trter— those numbers will be released trter. tut— those numbers will be released later. but here— those numbers will be released later. but here for— those numbers will be released later. but here for me is the tert— later. but here for me is the real shocker. _ later. but here for me is the real shocker. the— later. but here for me is the real shocker. the price of food up rst-rto— real shocker. the price of food up route turtrg— real shocker. the price of food up 19.1% during the year to up19.1% during the year to arter— up19.1% during the year to march. that's— up19.1% during the year to march. that's a— up 19.1% during the year to march. that's a 45 year high. art— march. that's a 45 year high. art wry— march. that's a 45 year high. art wrw ts— march. that's a 45 year high. art why ts tt— march. that's a 45 year high. and why is it so— march. that's a 45 year high. and why is it so shocking? teeuse— and why is it so shocking? because what— and why is it so shocking? because what this graph shows is wrotesrte— because what this graph shows is wholesale food— because what this graph shows is wholesale food prices around the worst— wholesale food prices around the wortt rrt— wholesale food prices around the wortt rrt trey— wholesale food prices around the world and they have fallen now to re— world and they have fallen now to re rrortrs— world and they have fallen now to 12 months in— world and they have fallen now to 12 months in a— world and they have fallen now to 12 months in a row. a big towrwrrt— to 12 months in a row. a big downward trajectory down by a ttttr. — downward trajectory down by a ttttr. art— downward trajectory down by a ttttr. art wet— downward trajectory down by a fifth. and yet food, retail prtees— fifth. and yet food, retail prices have— fifth. and yet food, retail prices have gone up and that's why— prices have gone up and that's wrw t— prices have gone up and that's why t trtrt— prices have gone up and that's why i think the— prices have gone up and that's why i think the government will be why i think the government will te trtttrg— why i think the government will te trtttrg to— why i think the government will be talking to the— why i think the government will be talking to the retailers rtout— be talking to the retailers rtout wry— be talking to the retailers about why food prices remain so etewrtet— about why food prices remain so etewrtet. wry— about why food prices remain so elevated, why they're spiralling toot— elevated, why they're spiralling toot prtee— elevated, why they're spiralling food price inflation, and when wrotesrte— food price inflation, and when wholesale food— food price inflation, and when wholesale food prices are
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trtttrg— wholesale food prices are trtttrg row— wholesale food prices are falling now, food supply chains are falling now, food supply chains eorrpter — falling now, food supply chains are complex. there are big lags. trrrrers— are complex. there are big lags. trrers trte— are complex. there are big lags. farmers take, you— are complex. there are big lags. farmers take, you know, months, werrs— farmers take, you know, months, werrs to— farmers take, you know, months, werrs to protuee— farmers take, you know, months, years to produce their crops. tut— years to produce their crops. tut toot— years to produce their crops. tut toot rt— years to produce their crops. but look at some of this. this rot— but look at some of this. this rot ous— but look at some of this. this was not ons data. this is not otttetrt— was not ons data. this is not official data.— was not ons data. this is not official data. this— was not ons data. this is not official data. this is from wrter— official data. this is from wrter tre— official data. this is from which the consumer group they surveyed.— which the consumer group they surwewet. etgrt— which the consumer group they surveyed, eight supermarket hits are surveyed, eight supermarket hits reporter— surveyed, eight supermarket hits are reported this— surveyed, eight supermarket hits are reported this data westertrw. — are reported this data yesterday. but it seems apposite totrw— yesterday. but it seems apposite totrw tr— yesterday. but it seems apposite totrw tr astr— yesterday. but it seems apposite totrw tr astr .— yesterday. but it seems apposite today in asda , a— yesterday. but it seems apposite today in asda , a sliced white today in asda, a sliced white tort— today in asda, a sliced white tort ts— today in asda, a sliced white tort ts erto— today in asda, a sliced white loaf is 67% more— today in asda, a sliced white loaf is 67% more expensive. in trrer— loaf is 67% more expensive. in aarrer trrr— loaf is 67% more expensive. in aarrer trrr r— loaf is 67% more expensive. in march than a year— loaf is 67% more expensive. in march than a year ago in ocado , march than a year ago in ocado, a march than a year ago in ocado, r a9— march than a year ago in ocado, r a9 grrrr — march than a year ago in ocado, a 49 gram porridge— march than a year ago in ocado, a 49 gram porridge pot, 66% more eperse— a 49 gram porridge pot, 66% more eperse art— a 49 gram porridge pot, 66% more expensive. and in— a 49 gram porridge pot, 66% more expensive. and in tesco eight srusresg asto— expensive. and in tesco eight sausages, 73% more expensive . sausages, 73% more expensive. art— sausages, 73% more expensive. art t— sausages, 73% more expensive. art t trtrt— sausages, 73% more expensive. and i think food— sausages, 73% more expensive. and i think food price inflation teeruse— and i think food price inflation because less— and i think food price inflation because less well—off families spert— because less well—off families spert so— because less well—off families spert so rruer— because less well—off families spend so much more as a share of tretr— spend so much more as a share of tretr treorre— spend so much more as a share of tretr or— spend so much more as a share of their income on food— spend so much more as a share of their income on food than others wit— their income on food than others wttt teeoe— their income on food than others will become very— their income on food than others will become very politically controversial— will become very politically controversial .— will become very politically controversial . but there are controversial. but there are stgrs— controversial. but there are stgrs ot— controversial. but there are stgrs ot rope.— controversial. but there are signs of hope. the first sign of rope— signs of hope. the first sign of rope tr— signs of hope. the first sign of rope tr trese— signs of hope. the first sign of hope in these numbers is that motor— hope in these numbers is that motor tuet— hope in these numbers is that motor fuel inflation was returttw— motor fuel inflation was actually negative. in other worst— actually negative. in other words, motor— actually negative. in other words, motor fuels on average petrot— words, motor fuels on average petrot rrt— words, motor fuels on average petrol and diesel— words, motor fuels on average petrol and diesel were cheaper in petrol and diesel were cheaper tr trrer— petrol and diesel were cheaper in march 2023—
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petrol and diesel were cheaper in march 2023 than in march 2022.— in march 2023 than in march 2022. trougr— in march 2023 than in march 2022, though only by 5% and less so tor— 2022, though only by 5% and less so tor tteset— 2022, though only by 5% and less so tor tteset .— 2022, though only by 5% and less so for diesel, of— 2022, though only by 5% and less so for diesel, of course. but ttrs— so for diesel, of course. but trts ts— so for diesel, of course. but trts ts rtso— so for diesel, of course. but this is also a— so for diesel, of course. but this is also a sign of hope. ttrs— this is also a sign of hope. trts ts— this is also a sign of hope. trts ts tre— this is also a sign of hope. this is the producer price trtex. — this is the producer price index. this— this is the producer price index. this captures the cost of the index. this captures the cost of tre trputs— index. this captures the cost of the inputs that— index. this captures the cost of the inputs that firms need to eerte— the inputs that firms need to eerte tre — the inputs that firms need to create the goods— the inputs that firms need to create the goods and services trrt— create the goods and services trrt trey— create the goods and services that they then _ create the goods and services that they then sell us and you trrt— that they then sell us and you can see that producer price trttrttor— can see that producer price inflation is— can see that producer price inflation is down sharply from tretr— inflation is down sharply from new tr— inflation is down sharply from 12.8% in february . to 7.6% in 12.8% in february. to 7.6% in trrer— 12.8% in february. to 7.6% in trrrer. art— 12.8% in february. to 7.6% in march. and ministers will be ettrgtrg— march. and ministers will be ettrgtrg to— march. and ministers will be clinging to that— march. and ministers will be clinging to that as signs that trttrttor— clinging to that as signs that inflation is— clinging to that as signs that inflation is soon— clinging to that as signs that inflation is soon going to ease . wrrt— inflation is soon going to ease . wrrt toes— inflation is soon going to ease . what does all— inflation is soon going to ease . what does all this mean in trts— . what does all this mean in trts ts— . what does all this mean in some this is a— . what does all this mean in some this is a big headache for gowerrrrert— some this is a big headache for gowerrrrert rs— some this is a big headache for government as well as households tre— government as well as households across the country. _ government as well as households across the country. inflation in the across the country. inflation in tre trs— across the country. inflation in tre us ts— across the country. inflation in tre us ts 5.— across the country. inflation in tre us ts 5- tr— across the country. inflation in the us is 5. in the— across the country. inflation in the us is 5. in the eurozone tt-s— the us is 5. in the eurozone tt-s 8- — the us is 5. in the eurozone tt-s 8- so— the us is 5. in the eurozone it's 8. so britain— the us is 5. in the eurozone it's 8. so britain does seem to rrwe— it's 8. so britain does seem to rrwe rr— it's 8. so britain does seem to have an inflation— it's 8. so britain does seem to have an inflation problem. what i have an inflation problem. what twoutt— have an inflation problem. what twoutt sav— have an inflation problem. what twoutt srw ts— have an inflation problem. what i would say is that— have an inflation problem. what i would say is that this makes an i would say is that this makes rr trterest— i would say is that this makes an interest rate— i would say is that this makes an interest rate rise more trtett— an interest rate rise more likely rert— an interest rate rise more likely next month and the cost of likely next month and the cost ot ttwrg— likely next month and the cost of living crisis. _ likely next month and the cost of living crisis. it's not going to go— of living crisis. it's not going to go rwrw— of living crisis. it's not going to go away any— of living crisis. it's not going to go away any time soon. it's going— to go away any time soon. it's gotrg to— to go away any time soon. it's going to continue— to go away any time soon. it's going to continue to dominate pottttes— going to continue to dominate pottttes. rot— going to continue to dominate politics, not least— going to continue to dominate politics, not least before all trose— politics, not least before all those crucial— politics, not least before all those crucial local elections in
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tort. — those crucial local elections in tort. wett— those crucial local elections in may. well thank— those crucial local elections in may. well thank you, liam. pepresstrg— may. well thank you, liam. depressing, isn't— may. well thank you, liam. t 79 9 97 yeah. depressing, isn't it? yeah. brilliant, though. thank you . brilliant, though. thank you. what an amazing explanation. there are questions that need to be answered there, particularly about supermarket about those supermarket bosses into them into number 10 and sort them out, because think they're out, because i think they're operating in a cartel. i know liam tell me operating in a cartel. i know liam-tell me off- operating in a cartel. i know liam-tell me off for- operating in a cartel. i know. liam .tell me off for saying liam will tell me off for saying trrt— liam will tell me off for saying trrt. tut— liam will tell me off for saying that, but liam,— liam will tell me off for saying that, but liam, i've said it. trey-re— that, but liam, i've said it. trey-re-r- that, but liam, i've said it. they're-a carteli that, but liam, i've said it.i they're-a cartel in that, but liam, i've said it.- they're-a cartel in my they're operating a cartel in my ttsrt—trrt- they're operating a cartel in my rishi—that the- rishi sunak says that the terror— rishi sunak says that the behaviour of— rishi sunak says that the behaviour of protesters who ttsrupt— disrupt sporting events is setttsr— disrupt sporting events is selfish reckless as he selfish and reckless as he ptetges— selfish and reckless as he pledges-push- selfish and reckless as he pledges push ahead with pledges to push ahead with tegtstrte—ori legislate to crack down on putte— legislate to crack down on public-offences- legislate to crack down on public offences . public order offences. environmental groups like trttrettor— environmental groups like extinction-,- environmental groups like. extinction-, they're extinction rebellion, they're ptrrrtrg— extinction rebellion, they're now planning to flood london wttr—trrttr- with 30,000 of their irrita rrtrg— with 30,000 of their irrita hating supporters to try to ttsrupt— hating supporters to try to ttsrupt tre— hating supporters to try to disrupt the london marathon this weetert— disrupt the london marathon this weekend, which— disrupt the london marathon this weekend, which is— disrupt the london marathon this weekend, which is outrageous. were— weekend, which is outrageous. were totret— weekend, which is outrageous. we're joined now— weekend, which is outrageous. we're joined now by our trwourtte— we're joined now by our favourite public affairs expert . rters— favourite public affairs expert , piers pottinger._ favourite public affairs expert , piers pottinger. he's talking tougt— , piers pottinger. he's talking tougr. we-we— , piers pottinger. he's talking tough. we've heard it all before . rters.— tough. we've heard it all before , piers, haven't— tough. we've heard it all before , piers, haven't we? “tilt? tough. we've heard it all before , piers, haven't we? “4135 , piers, haven't we? yes, we trte— , piers, haven't we? yes, we trwe .— , piers, haven't we? yes, we trwe . aru— , piers, haven't we? yes, we have . and i'm not quite sure have. and i'm not quite sure what he's going to do about it, but it seems to me very clear that we live in a democracy and i totally support the right of everyone , one, to demonstrate or everyone, one, to demonstrate or protest. but demonstration and
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protesting does not equal disruption. and when you disrupt people's livelihoods, when you stop people going to work and going about their normal business or whether you do some preposterous stunt on like at the snooker tournament, i mean, this is just vandalism. and it is, in my view, criminal. this is just vandalism. and it is, in my view, criminal . and i is, in my view, criminal. and i do hope that the police acas who always seem to say that their hands are tied . i don't know who hands are tied. i don't know who by if people are clearly breaking the law and preventing people going about their normal business, they should simply be arrested . and i think given arrested. and i think given proper jail time, well, i'm just going to say, one of our viewers has got in touch. philip. he says has got in touch. philip. he srws rere— has got in touch. philip. he srws rere tr— 9:79 7 9t:79.t9.7 philip. he says here in germany, the german tuttetrw— says here in germany, the german iuttetrw rrt— says here in germany, the german iuttetrw rrt tre— says here in germany, the german judiciary and the government rrwe— judiciary and the government rrwe trter— judiciary and the government rrwe trter r— judiciary and the government have taken a strong line against rettwsts— have taken a strong line against rettwsts wro — have taken a strong line against activists who disrupt roads or grue— activists who disrupt roads or glue themselves— activists who disrupt roads or glue themselves they glue themselves to things they get we get done for criminal damage. we eoutt— get done for criminal damage. we eoutt to— get done for criminal damage. we eoutt to trrt— get done for criminal damage. we could do that here.— get done for criminal damage. we could do that here. why aren't we.- _ could do that here. why aren't we- wett— could do that here. why aren't we,- well,lagree.- we, piers? well, i agree. i don't quite understand why why they can't do it should be
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they can't do that. it should be done as it is in germany. done here as it is in germany. and of course, other done here as it is in germany. and is of course, other done here as it is in germany. and is some course, other done here as it is in germany. and is some ofirse, other done here as it is in germany. and is some of these other done here as it is in germany. and is some of these protests thing is some of these protests are not really about what they're protesting about. they're more interested in just sort of anarchy for the sake of it. and these are young people who, as i think many people feel, would be better gainfully employed , are doing a job of employed, are doing a job of work, perhaps helping create some wealth in this country instead of going around with preposterous suggestions . i preposterous suggestions. i mean, you can't stop oil overnight. you can't do it in ten, 20 years. every sensible person knows that. so stop , stop person knows that. so stop, stop trying to push an idea that no one is going to get behind. you're a great horse, man, and you would have been encouraged. i think that the police actually did i think that the police actually ttt get— i think that the police actually ttt get to— i think that the police actually ttt get to grtps— i think that the police actually did get to grips with those wreteret — did get to grips with those wretched people at the grand wrttorrt— wretched people at the grand national.-they- wretched people at the grand national. they potentially national. yes, they potentially soror— national. yes, they potentially 30,000 -targeted - national. yes, they potentially 30,000 targeted in the 30,000 people targeted in the tortor— london marathon. now forgive me, teorr— bevan, i haven't worked out gutte— bevan, i haven't worked out gutte wrrt— bevan, i haven't worked out quite what threat to the environment,- quite what threat to the environment, the london marathon is environment, the london marathon ts—trew- environment, the london marathon ts-to—trew- environment, the london marathon ts-to erert-trey- environment, the london marathon is-to deal with-they- environment, the london marathon is to deal with 30,000? i
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going to deal with 30,000? i tor-t— going to deal with 30,000? i tort-merr- going to deal with 30,000? i don't-mean, with. going to deal with 30,000.7 i. don't-mean, with the don't know. i mean, with the grand national, don't know. i mean, with the grand national , the police grand national, the police had plenty warning. did , plenty of warning. they did, thanks daily mail, thanks plenty of warning. they did, thrthe. daily mail, thanks plenty of warning. they did, thrthe daily daily mail, thanks plenty of warning. they did, thrthe daily mail,y mail, thanks plenty of warning. they did, thrthe daily mail, indeed,thanks plenty of warning. they did, thrthe daily mail, indeed, who is to the daily mail, indeed, who leaked? well, not leaked. they they went undercover and found out the plans. but the police should be doing that. that's theirjob. and if there's their job. and if there's something on this scale , well, something on this scale, well, they ought to be prepared. they ought to be ready. and they ought to be ready. and they ought to be dealing with it very firmly indeed. wouldn't it be poputrr— firmly indeed. wouldn't it be poputrr wttr— firmly indeed. wouldn't it be popular with the _ �*" 99 wouldn't it be popular with the voters? 9.9:i;9g popular with the voters? hugely poputrr. — popular with the voters? hugely poputrr. t— popular with the voters? hugely poputrr. t-rrost— popular with the voters? hugely popular. i most most popular. i think most most voters, including labour, support voters , are totally support voters, are totally against this kind of disruption. as i say, protests is one thing, but disruption is another. but here's the thing. i guess when it's here's the thing. i guess when tt-s or— here's the thing. i guess when tt-s or rr— here's the thing. i guess when tt-s or rr or— here's the thing. i guess when it's on an on an— here's the thing. i guess when it's on an on an eco- 79 i guess when it's on an on an eco zealotry ttetet— it's on an on an eco zealotry ticket, which— it's on an on an eco zealotry ticket, which is— it's on an on an eco zealotry ticket, which is what these tttots— ticket, which is what these tttots re— ticket, which is what these idiots are doing in all of our ttrs— idiots are doing in all of our arts re— idiots are doing in all of our mps are also— idiots are doing in all of our mps are also trying to jump on trrt— mps are also trying to jump on trrt eeo— mps are also trying to jump on that eco band— mps are also trying to jump on that eco band wagon. most of the trre— that eco band wagon. most of the ttrre we— that eco band wagon. most of the ttrre we terr— that eco band wagon. most of the time we hear about— that eco band wagon. most of the time we hear about net zero zero all time we hear about net zero zero rtt tre— time we hear about net zero zero rtt tre trre— time we hear about net zero zero all the time and— time we hear about net zero zero all the time and maybe that for arts— all the time and maybe that for arts trere-s— all the time and maybe that for arts trere-s r— all the time and maybe that for mps there's a kind— all the time and maybe that for mps there's a kind of a sort of rwpoertsw— mps there's a kind of a sort of rwpoertsw trey— mps there's a kind of a sort of hypocrisy they could be accused of hypocrisy they could be accused ot tt—
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hypocrisy they could be accused ot tt trey-re— hypocrisy they could be accused of if they're stopping the rettwsts— of if they're stopping the activists who _ of if they're stopping the activists who were apparently supporttrg — activists who were apparently supporttrg tre— activists who were apparently supporting the aim of the gowerrrrert— supporting the aim of the government to- supporting the aim of the government to get us all off oil in. government to get us all off oil tr. rts— government to get us all off oil tr. tt-s r— government to get us all off oil tr. tt-s r rressw— government to get us all off oil in. it's a messy political stturttor— in. it's a messy political situation for— in. it's a messy political situation for them. �*ftti;99 situation for them. well, i uor-t— situation for them. well, i uor-t see— situation for them. well, i don't see how— situation for them. well, i don't see how you can call the kind of protests these people do as support ing kind of protests these people do as supporting anything. they're destructive . i agree. but the destructive. i agree. but the cause is such.— destructive. i agree. but the cause is such. if— destructive. i agree. but the cause is such. if it- destructive. i agree. but the cause is such. if it was- 99 79”t:i;t:i; but the cause is such. if it was any otter.— cause is such. if it was any otrer. wou— cause is such. if it was any other, you feel— cause is such. if it was any other, you feel like if it was rrwtrtrg— other, you feel like if it was anything else,— other, you feel like if it was anything else, if— other, you feel like if it was anything else, if it was anti rrert— anything else, if it was anti rrert or— anything else, if it was anti rrert or trey— anything else, if it was anti meat or they damaged their cause bev meat or they damaged their cause tew turret— meat or they damaged their cause tew turrer trey— meat or they damaged their cause bev turner they do. _ meat or they damaged their cause bev turner they do. they do. wett. — bev turner they do. they do. well. greenpeace _ bev turner they do. they do. well. greenpeace discovered this wrer— well. greenpeace discovered this wrer tt— well. greenpeace discovered this wrer tt wou— well. greenpeace discovered this when if you remember , they had when if you remember, they had trrt— when if you remember, they had trrt-trrt— when if you remember, they had that-that would— when if you remember, they had that that would around that boat that would go around rrt—otrer- that boat that would go around and—other boats. and interfere with other boats rrt— and interfere with other boats rrt tt— and interfere with other boats rrt tt rs— and interfere with other boats and it was almost piracy and trrt— and it was almost piracy and that actually— and it was almost piracy and that actually there was a huge trettrsr— that actually there was a huge backlash against— that actually there was a huge backlash against them, as indeed ports— backlash against them, as indeed potts totrw— backlash against them, as indeed polls today, there's— backlash against them, as indeed polls today, there's a huge trettrsr— polls today, there's a huge backlash against the advertising by backlash against the advertising tw tre— backlash against the advertising by tre trtour— backlash against the advertising by the labour party attacking ttsrt— by the labour party attacking ttsrt surrt— by the labour party attacking rishi sunak personally in the most— rishi sunak personally in the most disgraceful way. ' 79 9 most disgraceful way. and it proves— most disgraceful way. and it proves prv— most disgraceful way. and it proves my point. i made earlier on this program that that attacking people in advertising in such an unpleasant and personal way is not it doesn't
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work. it's counterproductive . work. it's counterproductive. let's talk about the scottish wrttorrt— let's talk about the scottish national party,— let's talk about the scottish national party, because we trttet— national party, because we trttet or— national party, because we talked on this— national party, because we talked on this program a couple of talked on this program a couple ot weeks— talked on this program a couple ot weets rgo— talked on this program a couple of weeks ago when peter murrell us of weeks ago when peter murrell us tre— of weeks ago when peter murrell us tre ertet— of weeks ago when peter murrell us the chief executive that was mr us the chief executive that was at wteotr — us the chief executive that was mr nicola sturgeon, if we can errt— mr nicola sturgeon, if we can ert-trrt— mr nicola sturgeon, if we can call that, arrested. yeah. call him that, arrested. yeah. wow— call him that, arrested. yeah. now-treasurer— call him that, arrested. yeah. now-treasurer us- call him that, arrested. yeah. now treasurer us been now the treasurer us been rrresteet— now the treasurer us been arrested. what— now the treasurer us been arrested. what what's going on rere— arrested. what what's going on rere wttr— arrested. what what's going on rere wttr vour— arrested. what what's going on here with your great i mean as a grert— here with your great i mean as a grert seot— here with your great i mean as a great scot here. _ here with your great i mean as a great scot here. yeah. �*ftti;99 great scot here. yeah. well i'm verv— great scot here. yeah. well i'm very trr— great scot here. yeah. well i'm very i'm very depressed because i mean if they can't run their own party you can't expect them to run the country. and in fact they've got a hopeless record anyway. and humza yousaf the first minister yesterday's speech simply reversed or said they were going to reset the some of the unpopular policies that they were going to do . but that they were going to do. but i think there are two significant things in with the snp saga at the moment. one is three officers of the snp signed off on the last published accounts of the party and they were peter murrell arrested , were peter murrell arrested, colin beattie arrested and nicola sturgeon. so she was the
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trttt— nicola sturgeon. so she was the trtrt oe— nicola sturgeon. so she was the trtrt to— nicola sturgeon. so she was the third one to sign— nicola sturgeon. so she was the third one to sign it— nicola sturgeon. so she was the third one to sign it off. - t 9 97 so she was the third one to sign it off. so she tteretore— third one to sign it off. so she therefore was— third one to sign it off. so she therefore was obviously a party to the state of the affairs, at least at the time of the last accounts. and one wonders where thatis accounts. and one wonders where that is going to lead the police. the second and most important thing of all is the lord advocate, who is in fact a lady called dorothy bain. and an snp minister appointed to the role of lord advocate by nicola sturgeon. she is in charge of the crown prosecution service . the crown prosecution service. yes. now she's the senior law officer in scotland. now the police said and repeated yesterday say that they will following their investigation, send a report to the crown office headed by an snp minister appointed by nicola sturgeon . appointed by nicola sturgeon. now, i think dorothy bain has some questions to answer. she's inferred vaguely that because if there is any political investigation , she would be not investigation, she would be not involved . that's not good enough involved. that's not good enough that really isn't good enough
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because the murkiness and the depth of murkiness that's going on in the snp is shocking and it if i had a vote in scotland , i'd if i had a vote in scotland, i'd be really wanting an immediate election in scotland to deal with this snp bunch because they're clearly not fit for government and you know when theresa may stood down when bofis theresa may stood down when boris johnson stood down, she demanded nicola sturgeon a general election. they're not srvtrg— general election. they're not srvtrg tre— general election. they're not saying the same— general election. they're not saying the same as- 9:i; 9 tit7 they're not saying the same as scotland, are trew— saying the same as scotland, are trevt wo— saying the same as scotland, are they? to ro— saying the same as scotland, are treve wo ro— saying the same as scotland, are they? no no, no, no,— saying the same as scotland, are they? no no, no, no, no. 7 they? no no, no, no, no. i mean , they? no no, no, no, no. i mean . tt-s. — they? no no, no, no, no. i mean . to. art— they? no no, no, no, no. i mean , it's. and nicola sturgeon's carrying on as if there's nothing to be worried about. well i mean, it's just absurd . well i mean, it's just absurd. and no one buys that . and they and no one buys that. and they hide behind this. a criminal investigation going on. of course there is. but they need to do a lot more than hide behind that. yeah. stay with it. trrrt— behind that. yeah. stay with it. trrrt vou— behind that. yeah. stay with it. trrrt vou .— behind that. yeah. stay with it. thank you . right.— behind that. yeah. stay with it. thank you . right. still- 79 / stay with it. thank you . right. still to come, thank you. right. still to come, ttsrt— thank you. right. still to come, ttsrt surrt— thank you. right. still to come, rishi sunak is— thank you. right. still to come, rishi sunak is in— thank you. right. still to come, rishi sunak is in northern retrrt— rishi sunak is in northern ireland today— rishi sunak is in northern ireland today to mark the etostrg— ireland today to mark the closing address at the gala of
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the closing address at the gala of tre attr— closing address at the gala of the 25th anniversary of the good trttrv— the 25th anniversary of the good friday agreement.— the 25th anniversary of the good friday agreement. we'll tell you wro— friday agreement. we'll tell you wro etse— friday agreement. we'll tell you wro etse-te— friday agreement. we'll tell you who else .be there - friday agreement. we'll tell you who else be there in just who else will be there in just a rrorrert— who else will be there in just a rrorrert .—
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square, which is on the route of the coronation . on it's 1020. the coronation. on it's 1020. so we're going to go straight to wortrerr— so we're going to go straight to northern ireland.— so we're going to go straight to northern ireland. so it's a very big northern ireland. so it's a very ttg arv— northern ireland. so it's a very ttg trv wrere— northern ireland. so it's a very big day where the— northern ireland. so it's a very big day where the peace process can big day where the peace process trtt— big day where the peace process trtt to— big day where the peace process can talk to our— big day where the peace process can talk to our very own dougie terttte— can talk to our very own dougie beattie dougie,— can talk to our very own dougie beattie dougie, who's to beattie dougie, who's going to be beattie dougie, who's going to te-ttg— beattie dougie, who's going to te-ttg grtr— beattie dougie, who's going to be big gala dinner? be at this big gala dinner? wett— be at this big gala dinner? wett. tre— be at this big gala dinner? well, the gala— be at this big gala dinner? well, the gala dinner- be at this big gala dinner? well, the gala dinner tonight, it is rumoured that the gala dinner will will past and dinner will will have past and present pms that would include bofis present pms that would include boris johnson and liz truss. that would be an interesting conversation , especially in conversation, especially in amongst those that are here celebrating the 25th anniversary of the good friday agreement . of of the good friday agreement. of course, in amongst those are bill clinton, hillary clinton , bill clinton, hillary clinton, tony blair. they all put three decades of violence in northern ireland to an end and this this conference is to close with ursula von der leyen, the president of the us or the
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european commission , president european commission, president william j. clinton making his speech. we then have leo varadkar, the current taoiseach or president, our prime minister of the republic of ireland , and of the republic of ireland, and then it all ends up with rishi sunak and really this is a carrot and stick process over the last couple of days for unionism. chris heaton—harris was in yesterday and in his speech he very much said out that if unionists do not go back in to the stormont institutions, those institutions set up for power sharing as part of the good friday agreement, how to govern northern ireland, that it would weaken the union and today rishi sunak speech is very much expected to say how he will make northern ireland one of the best places in the to world do business. and of course unionists are very, very upset about the framework document that in place and what that is in place and what restrictions that actually puts in northern ireland. they are very saying that pushes very much saying that it pushes business republic of business towards the republic of ireland. republic of ireland. the republic of ireland, denying that.
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ireland. the republic of irele'when denying that. ireland. the republic of irele'when you denying that. ireland. the republic of irele'when you lookienying that. ireland. the republic of irele'when you look atying that. ireland. the republic of irele'when you look at how that. ireland. the republic of irele'when you look at how many but when you look at how many taxation, including corporate taxes and the movement of goods inside northern ireland, it would be hard to see why how this sunak cannot just use soundees this sunak cannot just use soundbites , but actually explain soundbites, but actually explain to in terms how this can to us in real terms how this can be a good place for getting business into northern ireland. dougie beattie in northern tretrrt— dougie beattie in northern tretrrt tor— dougie beattie in northern ireland for us. _ dougie beattie in northern ireland for us. piers pottinger stit— ireland for us. piers pottinger stttt wttr— ireland for us. piers pottinger still with us,— ireland for us. piers pottinger still with us, piers. tony blair rtgrttv— still with us, piers. tony blair rtgrttv gets— still with us, piers. tony blair rtgrttv gets r— still with us, piers. tony blair rightly gets a lot— still with us, piers. tony blair rightly gets a lot of credit for the rightly gets a lot of credit for tre root— rightly gets a lot of credit for the good friday— rightly gets a lot of credit for the good friday agreement with bill the good friday agreement with tttt—we— the good friday agreement with bill—we should- the good friday agreement with bill we should give bill clinton, but we should give erettt— bill clinton, but we should give erert-trrtr— credit to john major, who strrtet— credit to john major, who- strrtet—srttv started the process. he sadly err-t— started the process. he sadly err-tltrere— started the process. he sadly can't-there today- started the process. he sadly can't there today because can't be there today because re-s— can't be there today because re-s rot— can't be there today because re-s rot verv— can't be there today because he's not very well. he's 80 now, rtter— he's not very well. he's 80 now, rtter rtt. — he's not very well. he's 80 now, after all. yeah— he's not very well. he's 80 now, after all. yeah i'm— he's not very well. he's 80 now, after all. yeah i'm sorry he's rot— after all. yeah i'm sorry he's rot-aru— after all. yeah i'm sorry he's not-and-quite not there. and you're quite right to that out because right to point that out because john major really did the john major really did start the process. tony blair has, of course, on the course, capitalised on the success. yes. and never stops telling everyone how he brought this about , telling everyone how he brought this about, which is in part true . and to be fair to him, he true. and to be fair to him, he worked hard it, although some worked hard at it, although some some of the aspects of it that we've seen, such as the letters to former ira terrorists essentially absolving them of
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the atrocities they were involved in. i think he should not be forgiven for . involved in. i think he should not be forgiven for. i also think the gala dinner will probably be quite lengthy given the number of speeches . probably be quite lengthy given the number of speeches. imagine at least joe biden's not there. yes in some ways he was, of course , make a short speech and course, make a short speech and it could be quite funny because he make so many gaffes. we're a little short on time— he make so many gaffes. we're a little short on time with- 9 we're a little short on time with you as wet. — little short on time with you as wet. pretee— little short on time with you as well. pierce, pierce— little short on time with you as well. pierce, pierce pottinger, soe—ot- well. pierce, pierce pottinger,- some—rot-tut some people may not know, but you— some people may not know, but you wee— some people may not know, but you tre— some people may not know, but you tre vou— some people may not know, but you were the you created bell rotttrger— you were the you created bell rotttrger .— you were the you created bell pottinger , the— you were the you created bell pottinger , the biggest one of pottinger, the biggest one of the pottinger, the biggest one of tre ttggest— pottinger, the biggest one of the biggest advertising agencies in the biggest advertising agencies tr tre— the biggest advertising agencies tr tre wort.— the biggest advertising agencies in the world, i— the biggest advertising agencies in the world, i think it's fair to-particularly- in the world, i think it's fair to particularly one to say, particularly at one potrt. — to say, particularly at one potrt. -ore- to say, particularly at one point. -one pointl to say, particularly at one- point. -one point with point. yes, at one point with your advertising agency on, your advertising agency hat on, can ask you about this story can we ask you about this story that's been in the press this week and also week about budweiser and also nike, huge global brands nike, two huge global brands using a trans using dylan mulvaney, a trans woman, to advertise their products and the backlash has been huge. why would they choose to-rtrr — been huge. why would they choose to-rtrr tr— been huge. why would they choose to-rtrr tr tretr— 7 799i; why would they choose to him in their advertising? to use him in their advertising? wett— to use him in their advertising? wett. t— to use him in their advertising? wett. t tttrt— to use him in their advertising? well, i think they— to use him in their advertising? well, i think they use— to use him in their advertising? well, i think they use the- well, i think they use the person because tackle to because
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they thought it was a kind of woke cool idea and would appeal to the young. and it's backlash is huge on both for both brands it's done them enormous damage very very quickly and that's something that these days happens is when a brand goes wrong, it goes wrong very fast . wrong, it goes wrong very fast. and i mean, investors , too, in and i mean, investors, too, in some of these big companies have been telling, for example , been telling, for example, unilever to stop doing all this woke socialising and preaching to their customers and get on with the business of selling shampoo and butter. yeah, very political shampoo and butter. yeah, very pottttert row— shampoo and butter. yeah, very political now, isn't— shampoo and butter. yeah, very political now, isn't it?- yeah, very political now, isn't it? every trrrt— political now, isn't it? every trrrt. every— political now, isn't it? every trrrt. everv .— political now, isn't it? every brand, every , every. : 7r9 political now, isn't it? every brand, every , every. ' 79 97t:i;”t:i; brand, every, every. and there was a fashion for people thinking, oh, we'll make our brand cool by saying woke things and doing very sort of sort of playing to the young audience. and we should remember how and we; shouldyremember how tiny and we should remember how tiny a and we should remember how tiny r rrtruseuet— and we should remember how tiny a minuscule the— and we should remember how tiny a minuscule the trans population of a minuscule the trans population ot ttrs— a minuscule the trans population ot trts eourtrv— a minuscule the trans population of this country is. _ a minuscule the trans population of this country is. so why on errtr— of this country is. so why on errtr re— of this country is. so why on earth are they— of this country is. so why on earth are they using to promote arrerter—rrt- earth are they using to promote america—and it. america actually less and it rrsr-t— america actually less and it hasn't worked.— america actually less and it hasn't worked. ' 79 america actually less and it hasn't worked. 79 9 america actually less and it hasn't worked. ' 79 9 7 9 hasn't worked. and it won't work. hopefully people will work. and hopefully people will
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realise and take that message on board and get on with promoting brands for what they are. yeah. great to talk to you, pierce rteree— great to talk to you, pierce pierce pottinger, as ever. sttu— pierce pottinger, as ever. stir to— pierce pottinger, as ever. still to come,— pierce pottinger, as ever. still to come, apps- pierce pottinger, as ever. still to come, apps are calling on police and the judges to clamp down on eco fanatics. we've been saying here for ages, why they get on with why don't they just get on with it? find out more now with the headunes it? find out more now with the headlines with arron armstrong . headlines with arron armstrong. good morning to you. i'm arron arrrstrorg. — good morning to you. i'm arron armstrong. it's 1033 in the gb newsroom, inflation has fallen , newsroom, inflation has fallen, but not by as much as expected. with food prices at a 45 year high, the cost of living was predicted to ease, but inflation currently stands at 10.1, down from 10.4. the previous month. savings on lower fuel costs have been cancelled out by soaring pfices been cancelled out by soaring prices for bread , cereal and prices for bread, cereal and fruit. clothing and footwear pfices fruit. clothing and footwear prices have also gone up. it makes another interest rate hike from the bank of england next month more likely , the month more likely, the government's plans for an asylum
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centre in essex will be challenged in the high court later. braintree district council argues the proposed site at raf wethersfield is unsuitable due to its isolated location and lack of capacity for local services . the for local services. the government says using disused military bases to accommodate migrants will reduce reliance on hotels as the sacked boss of the cbi says his reputation is being totally destroyed following misconduct allegations means tony danker was dismissed last week over claims he sent staff members unsolicited messages . members unsolicited messages. and while he's apologised for conduct that may have made some colleagues very uncomfortable , colleagues very uncomfortable, mr danker says he's wrongly been associated with separate allegations, including rape , allegations, including rape, which predate his time at the cbiand which predate his time at the cbi and the prime minister says disruptive climate protesters should be ashamed of themselves . rishi sunak's comments come after activists disrupted the world snooker championship on
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britain moves forward from this . i had my oh, we're back in wstor— . i had my oh, we're back in sorry.— i had my oh, we're back in vision. sorry. we're all having a vision. sorry. we're all having r goot— vision. sorry. we're all having r goot errt— vision. sorry. we're all having a good chat here.— vision. sorry. we're all having a good chat here. nobody told us we tret— a good chat here. nobody told us we were back and— a good chat here. nobody told us we were back and you could hear steprer— we were back and you could hear steprer rourt— we were back and you could hear stephen pound talking out of turr— stephen pound talking out of turr tr— stephen pound talking out of turr tr tre— stephen pound talking out of turn in the corner of course trrrrr— turn in the corner of course trrrrr rpors— turn in the corner of course emma weapons stephen pound are in emma weapons stephen pound are tr-stutto— emma weapons stephen pound are tr-stutto rust— emma weapons stephen pound are in studio just warning in the studio just warning you we-te— in the studio just warning you we-te-to- in the studio just warning you we-be-to hear. in the studio just warning you. we-be-to hear the we may not be able to hear the grtterw— we may not be able to hear the grtterv. tut— we may not be able to hear the gallery, but anyway, anything eoutt— gallery, but anyway, anything eoutt-trts- gallery, but anyway, anything. could -this- news gallery, but anyway, anything- could -this- news of could happen. this is gb news of eourseltre— could happen. this is gb news of course-the point— could happen. this is gb news of course the point with me, bev course to the point with me, bev turret— course to the point with me, bev turrer rrt— course to the point with me, bev turner and-pierce.- course to the point with me, bev turner and-pierce. - course to the point with me, bev turner and pierce. ' 79 turner and andrew pierce. and gotrg— turner and andrew pierce. and gotrg to— turner and andrew pierce. and we're going to before- turner and andrew pierce. and we're going to before get to we're going to before we get to the papers, i'm going read the papers, i'm going to read out of some of your out a couple of some of your views a lot you are views because a lot of you are very quite right about very exercised quite right about those extinction those wretched extinction rebellion types, roy says. i'm thinking organising protest thinking of organising a protest to protest against protests which more which will cause even more chaos. absolutely with chaos. absolutely we're with you, understand. you, roy, we understand. in fact, going talk you, roy, we understand. in. fact,-going.talk about fact, we're going to talk about ttrs— fact, we're going to talk about ttts-our— fact, we're going to talk about ttts-our ttg— fact, we're going to talk about this. our big stories of this. one of our big stories of tre— this. one of our big stories of tre try.— this. one of our big stories of tre trv. tsr-t— this. one of our big stories of the day, isn't it?— this. one of our big stories of the day, isn't it? stephen toure— the day, isn't it? stephen pound, what— the day, isn't it? stephen pound, what do you think about ttrst—rrve- this? don't we already have erougr— this? don't we already have enough legislation? the
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enough legislation? we have the powers— enough legislation? we have the powers-to— enough legislation? we have the powers-to oe- enough legislation? we have the powers to move people. powers in place to move people. of powers in place to move people. or eourse— powers in place to move people. or we— powers in place to move people. of course we do. _ powers in place to move people. of course we do. i— powers in place to move people. of course we do. i mean,- powers in place to move people. of course we do. i mean, you know, people are being far too squeamish i mean, squeamish about this. i mean, i like idea protest against like the idea of protest against protest protest. yeah. protest against protest. yeah. should myself to should i be glueing myself to someone you someone called tristram? you know? are you suggesting they're all middle class? these protesters— all middle class? these- protesters _class. protesters are middle class. root— protesters are middle class. root-rtgre- protesters are middle class. good _they're much- protesters are middle class. . good _they're much posher protesters are middle class. goodthat. they're much posher protesters are middle class. 99 headline�*9.t9.7 protesters are middle class. 99 headline in 7 protesters are middle class. 99 headline in the sun' than that. headline in the sun is than that. headline in the sun ts post— than that. headline in the sun ts posr rtt— than that. headline in the sun is posh all about— headline in the sun is posh all about disruptive snooker. this— is posh all about disruptive snooker. 7 9777 is posh all about disruptive snooker. 7 7 snooker. this chap, i mean, i have say, he's lucky he got have to say, he's lucky he got away without being lynched at the but his name is the crucible. but his name is edward, as opposed to red ed is edward, as opposed to red ed is edward wittig, you know, and he's it's marvellous. he's a posh. it's marvellous. but thing person, but the thing is, this person, would he's would you believe it, he's actually gone on trying to crowdfund and he said, if i don't some money may have don't get some money i may have to work in a pub pub, you know, horrible. by the way, a horrible. by the way, what is a pub. yeah what do you think, trrrrrt — pub. yeah what do you think, trrrrrt wett— pub. yeah what do you think, emma? well, i'm— pub. yeah what do you think, emma? well, i'm very- pub. yeah what do you think, emma? well, i'm very frustrated with this constant desire to always introduce more legislation deal with these legislation to deal with these problems. that problems. the problem is that the law not being the current law is not being enforced. exactly enforced. that's exactly right. i that the reason why i think that the reason why we're currently this we're currently in this situation the potential for situation with the potential for 30,000, think that's 30,000, i don't think that's actually happen actually going to happen in their dreams. 30,000 people to
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descend on the london marathon to chaos , to cause complete chaos, interrupting other sports, sporting events, things like snooken sporting events, things like snooker. i think that we're in this situation now because we didn't nip it in the bud early enough. and i not to say i told you so, but i've been saying for years now that with these eco activists, you allow them to break the law, even if it's a minor , minor, you know, just minor, minor, you know, just giving sending them the message that if you break the law in pursuit of your objectives, that we're going to allow to get we're going to allow you to get away scot free. the result of thatis away scot free. the result of that is escalation. and there have been experts extremism have been experts in extremism and terrorism that have been warning some that warning for quite some time that if do allow these sorts of if you do allow these sorts of movements and there have been eco terrorists the past, not eco terrorists in the past, not to that's what this to say that that's what this group become , but group are or will become, but you have to acknowledge that you do have to acknowledge that there are very extreme there are some very extreme people eco movement and people in the eco movement and that if you do allow them to break the law, there is a potential for these things to escalate. and so we really do need to just quite
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straightforwardly, as as lee anderson rightly put it , anderson quite rightly put it, arrest put them in arrest these people, put them in jail . i come arrest these people, put them in jail. i come down on them with the trouble the the full the trouble is the police seem assist them in police seem to assist them in breaking the law, escorting them when they're doing their slow process. them, son, process. well, having them, son, wett— process. well, having them, son, wert—te— process. well, having them, son, well,_be dancing- process. well, having them, son, well,_be dancing thei well, they could be dancing the trrerrerrou-v- well, they could be dancing the macarena, you know, macarena, obviously, you know, just— macarena, obviously, you know, tustlrrruse— macarena, obviously, you know, just-amuse-but- macarena, obviously, you know, just-amuse-but what. just to amuse you. but what rerttw— just to amuse you. but what really, really annoys me, andrew, is that there is a very powerful case to be made, which andrew, is that there is a very powerfandtse to be made, which andrew, is that there is a very powerfand ie to be made, which andrew, is that there is a very powerfand i maybe made, which andrew, is that there is a very powerfand i may notnade, which andrew, is that there is a very powerfand i may not entirelyiich emma and i may not entirely agree on global warming. and, you the you know, the dangers to the environment. and that's being lost because of all this flimflam, all this nonsense. so it's cause. it's actually demeans the cause. it's from it. and it's distracting from it. and thatis it's distracting from it. and that is really bad. it seems that is really bad. it seems that extinction— ”t:i;799g 779 it seems that extinction rebellion returttv— that extinction rebellion actually - sort i that extinction rebellion actually sort of actually now are sort of ttstrretrg— actually now are sort of- distancing—from distancing themselves from just stop— distancing themselves from justi stop—trrt stop oil because they know that trev— stop oil because they know that trey-to— stop oil because they know that trev-to get— stop oil because they know that trey-to get peopte- stop oil because they know that they to get people on side. they need to get people on side. toure— they need to get people on side. you're alienating— they need to get people on side. you're alienating the majority of you're alienating the majority ot—returttvl you're alienating the majority ot—returttv .- you're alienating the majority ot—returttv. ti of the population actually, i trtrt— of the population actually, i think- national. of the population actually, i think- national ,i of the population actually, i think national, as of the population actually, i- think- national , as an think the grand national, as an evrrrpte— think the grand national, as an evrrrpte ot— think the grand national, as an example of this— think the grand national, as an example of this with the animal rtgrts— example of this with the animal rights activists,— example of this with the animal rights activists, but we've seen it rights activists, but we've seen ttlso— rights activists, but we've seen ttlso rrrrv— rights activists, but we've seen itlso many other— rights activists, but we've seen it so many other examples it in so many other examples sooet tre — it in so many other examples snooker, the snooker at the weetert— snooker, the snooker at the weekend, some— snooker, the snooker at the weekend, some of the more etee— weekend, some of the more extreme-within- weekend, some of the more extreme within this extreme people within this movement are— extreme people within this movement are willing put movement are willing to put peopte-s— movement are willing to put peopte-s ttves— movement are willing to put people's lives at— movement are willing to put people's lives at risk. you people's lives at risk. if you do something— people's lives at risk. if you do something like the suffragettes -
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do something like the suffragettes i do something like the- suffragettes-i don't suffragettes did. and i don't trtrt— suffragettes did. and i don't trtrt we— suffragettes did. and i don't think we should— suffragettes did. and i don't think we should allow them to eorrpe— think we should allow them to compare themselves to the suffragettes. _ compare themselves to the suffragettes. but running onto rrt— suffragettes. but running onto and-suffragettes- suffragettes. but running onto and suffragettes did put and the suffragettes did put peopte-s— and the suffragettes did put peopte-s-rt— and the suffragettes did put people's at risk. �*ftti;99 people's lives at risk. well, rrrg— people's lives at risk. well, trrg or— people's lives at risk. well, trrg or to— people's lives at risk. well, trrg or to say— people's lives at risk. well, hang on to say the suffragettes had no democratic recourse. the suffragettes not allowed to suffragettes were not allowed to vote. these people are allowed to they know if they to vote. they know that if they ran .parliament,_ to vote. they know that if they ran . parliament, then - they know that if they ran parliament, then they they know that if they ran well,iment, then they they know that if they ran well, they'dthen they they know that if they ran well, they'd be. they they know that if they ran well, they'd be. would. well, they'd be. but the tttrg— would. well, they'd be. but the thing there's something so thing is, there's something so stupid so facile, stupid about they're so facile, so pure about it. when they say, oh, attacking the crucible oh, we're attacking the crucible because, you know, they're snookering , you know, climate snookering, you know, climate change is snookering the world's bucha. what sort of bucha. i mean, what sort of a ridiculous what are they teaching eton nowadays? ridiculous what are they teachitime eton nowadays? ridiculous what are they teachitime they eton nowadays? ridiculous what are they teachitime they run on nowadays? ridiculous what are they teachitime they runon frontdays? ridiculous what are they teachitime they run on front otis? every time they run in front of a every time they run in front of r t— every time they run in front of t tor-t— every time they run in front of a car, i don't mind— every time they run in front of a car, i don't mind if they risk tretr— a car, i don't mind if they risk tretr or— a car, i don't mind if they risk their own lives— a car, i don't mind if they risk their own lives and risk their rerttr. — their own lives and risk their own health. but— their own lives and risk their own health. but about the own health. but what about the peopte—errs- own health. but what about the people _cars, the - people driving the cars, the trrrrge— people driving the cars, the trrrrge-gotrg- people driving the cars, the. damage-goinglcause damage they're going to cause the damage they're going to cause tre oe— damage they're going to cause tre rrt— damage they're going to cause the over and .and - damage they're going to cause the over and and over again the over and over and over again rrt— the over and over and over again rrt peopte— the over and over and over again rrt peopte rot— the over and over and over again and people not being able to get to-peopte— and people not being able to get to-peopte rot— and people not being able to get to people not being to work, people not being able to work, people not being able to-rospttrt— to work, people not being able to-hospitallan- to work, people not being able to hospital an hour, to get to hospital in an hour, tt-s— to get to hospital in an hour, it's unforgivable.— to get to hospital in an hour, it's unforgivable. well, do remember what happened on the dlr remember what happened on the tut—trtet- remember what happened on the ttt—trtet toi dlr last year when they tried to ettrrt— dlr last year when they tried to ettrrt up— dlr last year when they tried to ettrrt up or— dlr last year when they tried to climb up on the— dlr last year when they tried to climb up on the roof and all the trrgrt— climb up on the roof and all the trrgrt trev— climb up on the roof and all the draghi they them— climb up on the roof and all the draghi they them up, is draghi they them up, which is wrrt— draghi they them up, which is wrrtisroutt— draghi they them up, which is what-should-and- draghi they them up, which is what should and in what we should do. and in trrree— what we should do. and in france, .watch - what we should do. and in france, watch the police do france, you watch the police do it. france, you watch the police do tt. trev— france, you watch the police do tt. trev trrg— france, you watch the police do it. they drag them— france, you watch the police do it. they drag them off the road. why— it. they drag them off the road.
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wry-pottet— it. they drag them off the road. wry-potteet-get why are the police? they'll get rrrestet— why are the police? they'll get rrrestet. trev— why are the police? they'll get arrested. they will see. �*ftti; ”ti; arrested. they will see. we're sttu— arrested. they will see. we're srt—to— arrested. they will see. we're still—to - root. arrested. they will see. we're still—to - root ofj still not getting to the root of why police aren't doing why the police aren't doing it. is it because it's seen as somehow a virtuous. because it's not somehow, categorically we're all warriors all meant to be eco warriors now, aren't we're all meant now, aren't we? we're all meant to be on board, me. zealotry to be on board, not me. zealotry that to be unanimous that seems to be the unanimous mis ethos, ideology that we mis ethos, the ideology that we you're to question you're not allowed to question it you cannot it on the bbc. you cannot question green ethos. no, it on the bbc. you cannot quebut�*i green ethos. no, it on the bbc. you cannot quebut i green ethos. no, it on the bbc. you cannot quebut i have reen ethos. no, it on the bbc. you cannot quebut i have to n ethos. no, it on the bbc. you cannot quebut i have to say, ios. no, it on the bbc. you cannot quebut i have to say, its. no, it on the bbc. you cannot quebut i have to say, i know. it on the bbc. you cannot quebut i have to say, i know a no. but i have to say, i know a lot of police officers, you know, mostly from around football and things that. football and things like that. they the least woke people they are the least woke people in they are the least woke people tr—trrrgtrei in the world. i cannot imagine a wrote— in the world. i cannot imagine a wrote-ot— in the world. i cannot imagine a whole-of police,- whole bunch of police, particularly— whole bunch of police, particularly the met. they're rot— particularly the met. they're rot-sw— particularly the met. they're rot-srvlrol particularly the met. they're not - say, - no, we not going to say, oh, no, we rrustr-t— not going to say, oh, no, we mustn't-involved - not going to say, oh, no, we mustn't involved here. mustn't get involved here. you trow— mustn't get involved here. you trow-toss— mustn't get involved here. you know,-boss-it'sl know, it's the boss class. it's rtsotutetv— know, it's the boss class. it's absolutely it's— know, it's the boss class. it's absolutely it's thing. you absolutely it's the thing. you trow— absolutely it's the thing. you trow. tt— absolutely it's the thing. you trow. tt ts— absolutely it's the thing. you trow. tt ts r— absolutely it's the thing. you know, it is a military structure. _ know, it is a military structure. it's hierarchical. vou— structure. it's hierarchical. you-tre— structure. it's hierarchical. you the instructions you get the instructions from rtove— you get the instructions from above-obviously. above and they obviously been tort.— above and they obviously been tort—tretr- above and they obviously been told,_them. you- above and they obviously been. told,_them. you know, told, go easy on them. you know, trev— told, go easy on them. you know, trey-wrrt— told, go easy on them. you know, trey-wrrt to— told, go easy on them. you know, they-want to -the - they don't want to have the ptetures— they don't want to have the pictures like _ they don't want to have the pictures like they happened at the pictures like they happened at tre-tverrrt. — pictures like they happened at the-everard. .you- the sarah everard. do you remember vigil when this remember the vigil when this ttrs— remember the vigil when this trts—pteture- remember the vigil when this this—picture youi remember the vigil when this. this—picture you saw this woman with picture you saw in this woman with picture you saw tr rtt— this woman with picture you saw tr rtt tre— this woman with picture you saw in all the papers?— this woman with picture you saw in all the papers? yeah, i rreeg— in all the papers? yeah, i rgee-vou- in all the papers? yeah, i rgree-vou-tsi in all the papers? yeah, ii agree.-you-is it agree. but, you know, is it tevort— agree. but, you know, is it tevort-ot- agree. but, you know, is it beyond-of the- agree. but, you know, is it beyond of the met to beyond the wit of the met to returttv— beyond the wit of the met to returttv to — beyond the wit of the met to actually do things actually do both things correctly?— actually do both things correctly? actually police a protest— correctly? actually police a protest sense— correctly? actually police a protest sense and common sense pottetrgt—
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protest sense and common sense pottetrgt-vou— protest sense and common sense pottetrgt-vou trow- policing? well that you know wrrt— policing? well that you know wrrtlstogrr. — policing? well that you know whatlslogan. _for. what a slogan. let's go for trrt. — what a slogan. let's go for trrt. we-ve— what a slogan. let's go for that. we've heard- what a slogan. let's go for that. 9 that. we've heard that one somewhere slogan. somewhere at a tory slogan. what's it? i think what's happened to it? i think that what we've been- 9 97 ithink that what we've been seeing for vers— that what we've been seeing for verrs ts— that what we've been seeing for years now is actually is a kind of ideological— years now is actually is a kind of ideological two— years now is actually is a kind of ideological two tier pottetrg— of ideological two tier policing, because if you look at otter— policing, because if you look at otter-rs— policing, because if you look at other-as well,- policing, because if you look at other-as well, the i other examples as well, the ttret— other examples as well, the ttret ttves— other examples as well, the black lives protests are black lives matter protests are a black lives matter protests are r-evrrrpte— black lives matter protests are a example because the a great example because the ertrrtrrt— a great example because the criminal_place.j criminal damage took place. trere— criminal damage took place. trere-pottee— criminal damage took place. there police stood by and there the police stood by and let there the police stood by and tetltrpper— there the police stood by and tetlrrpper. tre— there the police stood by and let happen. the building that let it happen. the building that i let it happen. the building that t—vrrtrttset- i work in got vandalised caused by i work in got vandalised caused tv—rrt- by extinction rebellion and the pottee— by extinction rebellion and the police-absolutely- by extinction rebellion and the police absolutely nothing police did absolutely nothing rtout— police did absolutely nothing rtout rt.— police did absolutely nothing about it. while— police did absolutely nothing about it. while it was taking ptree— about it. while it was taking ptree. so— about it. while it was taking ptree. so t— about it. while it was taking place. so i think— about it. while it was taking place. so i think that they not just— place. so i think that they not just wttr— place. so i think that they not just wttr eeo— place. so i think that they not just with eco causes, but trev-ve— just with eco causes, but trev-ve tre— just with eco causes, but they've the police have sent a essrge— they've the police have sent a essrge trrt— they've the police have sent a message that if— they've the police have sent a message that if you are if you are .— message that if you are if you are , you're striving after an are, you're striving after an otteettve— are, you're striving after an objective that— are, you're striving after an objective that is- are, you're striving after an objective that is noble and vtrtuous— objective that is noble and virtuous and— objective that is noble and virtuous and the sort of the ortrotovv— virtuous and the sort of the ortrotovv ot— virtuous and the sort of the orthodoxy of society, quote urguote— orthodoxy of society, quote urguote .— orthodoxy of society, quote unquote , because i think the unquote, because i think the rrrtorttv— unquote, because i think the rrrg-orttv ot— unquote, because i think the majority of people probably tor-t— majority of people probably tor-t rgee— majority of people probably don't agree with it, that if trrt— don't agree with it, that if trrt tt— don't agree with it, that if trrt tt trev— don't agree with it, that if that if they are - don't agree with it, that if that if they are or if they are totrg— that if they are or if they are totrg trts— that if they are or if they are doing this for— that if they are or if they are doing this for certain progressive- doing this for certain progressive causes , cause then progressive causes, cause then trev— progressive causes, cause then trev wttt— progressive causes, cause then trev wttt te— progressive causes, cause then they will be let— progressive causes, cause then they will be let off lightly wrer— they will be let off lightly when compared you just who are
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trey— when compared you just who are trev to— when compared you just who are they to decide? _ when compared you just who are they to decide? �*ftt�*779 when compared you just who are they to decide? �*ftt�*779 they to decide? what is the author decision? i mean, you they to decide? what is the- author decision? i mean, you and i author decision? i mean, you and twee— author decision? i mean, you and t trere. — author decision? i mean, you and i were there. what— author decision? i mean, you and i were there. what is— author decision? i mean, you and i were there. what is the- t9ti;t9 t777 i mean, you and i were there. what is the normal wett— i were there. what is the normal wet. to— i were there. what is the normal wet. to vou— i were there. what is the normal well, do you remember the two ruge— well, do you remember the two huge demonstrations? i remember verv— huge demonstrations? i remember verv truer.— huge demonstrations? i remember very rruer. vou— huge demonstrations? i remember very much. you know what your comments had comments at the time when we had the comments at the time when we had tre-torturttrg— comments at the time when we had the foxhunting demonstration the pro foxhunting demonstration and the pro foxhunting demonstration rrt—wow- the pro foxhunting demonstration rrt—wow. wroi and the anti—iraq war. now, who rrrtes—trrt- and the anti—iraq war. now, who makes—that one- and the anti—iraq war. now, who makes—that one is. makes a decision? that one is ortrotov— makes a decision? that one is ortrotox rrt— makes a decision? that one is orthodox and one— makes a decision? that one is orthodox and one is not? i'm sorry.— orthodox and one is not? i'm sorry-arv— orthodox and one is not? i'm sofry-law-abblyl orthodox and one is not? i'mi sorry .law-apply to sorry. the law has to apply to every— sorry. the law has to apply to every strgte— sorry. the law has to apply to every single-the- sorry. the law has to apply to every single the law is every single person. the law is the every single person. the law is tre-tutt— every single person. the law is tre-tutt. tut— every single person. the law is the-bull. but the- every single person. the law is the bull. but the first the last bull. but the first tutwrrt— the last bull. but the first tutwrrt ot— the last bull. but the first bulwark of democracy. you've got to-tre— bulwark of democracy. you've got tome-rtgrt— bulwark of democracy. you've got to-the-right.-we'rel to get the law right. and we're all to get the law right. and we're rtt—tre— to get the law right. and we're rtt—tre trw- to get the law right. and we're all—the law. it- all equal under the law. it srouttr-t— all equal under the law. it shouldn't be— all equal under the law. it shouldn't be up someone to shouldn't be up to someone to say,— shouldn't be up to someone to sry-trey-re— shouldn't be up to someone to sry-trey-re gootl say, oh yeah, they're good, trey-re— say, oh yeah, they're good, trey-re trot.— say, oh yeah, they're good, they're bad. no,- say, oh yeah, they're good, they're bad. no, i'm sorry. it's just— they're bad. no, i'm sorry. it's just nonsense. _ they're bad. no, i'm sorry. it's just nonsense. common sense pottetrg— just nonsense. common sense pottetrg-tt- just nonsense. common sense pottetrg. -tt rerel just nonsense. common sense policing. it here for policing. you heard it here for the policing. you heard it here for tre-trre— policing. you heard it here for the-time.me. - policing. you heard it here fori the-time.me. and policing. you heard it here for- the _time.me. and the the second time for me. and the prtee— the second time for me. and the pottee-woutu— the second time for me. and the police would say we police officers would say we would exercise. sure would love to exercise. i'm sure they would sense, but will they would sense, but we will get. the governor says no. get. but the governor says no. governor. allowed _ 9:i;9 but the governor says no. governor allowed the woke governor is allowed the woke tretropotttrr— governor is allowed the woke metropolitan commissioner governor is allowed the woke metropolit woke commissioner governor is allowed the woke metropolitwoke disneynmissioner governor is allowed the woke metropolitwoke disney andrsioner governor is allowed the woke metropolitwoke disney and dress' talking of woke disney and dress trtetey— talking of woke disney and dress trtetey trouse— talking of woke disney and dress mickey mouse in— talking of woke disney and dress mickey mouse in a— talking of woke disney and dress mickey mouse in a pride costume at mickey mouse in a pride costume rt rts— mickey mouse in a pride costume rt tts ttrst— mickey mouse in a pride costume at its first pride— mickey mouse in a pride costume at its first pride night just exptrtr— at its first pride night just explain this— at its first pride night just explain this to— at its first pride night just explain this to us, emma. at its first pride night just explain this to us, emma . explain this to us, emma. what toes— explain this to us, emma. what toes trrt— explain this to us, emma. what does that mean?— explain this to us, emma. what does that mean? well, explain it if you can. this is a part of tre— if you can. this is a part of tre orgotrg— if you can. this is a part of the ongoing war— �*" 977 this is a part of the ongoing war between disney and the ongoing war between disney rrt tre— the ongoing war between disney and the governor— the ongoing war between disney and the governor of florida, ron
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tesrrtts— and the governor of florida, ron tesrrtts wro — and the governor of florida, ron desantis, who we— and the governor of florida, ron desantis, who we like. they it's gutte— desantis, who we like. they it's quite misleadingly referred to in quite misleadingly referred to tr rtt— quite misleadingly referred to tr rtt ot— quite misleadingly referred to tr rtt ot tre— quite misleadingly referred to in all of the papers as the tort— in all of the papers as the tort sry— in all of the papers as the tort sry gry— in all of the papers as the don't say gay bill. that's not gutte— don't say gay bill. that's not gutte wrrt— don't say gay bill. that's not gutte wrrt tt— don't say gay bill. that's not quite what it is. _ don't say gay bill. that's not quite what it is. it's about rrrttrg— quite what it is. it's about rrrttrg sue— quite what it is. it's about making sure that children aren't tetrg— making sure that children aren't tetrg-trtrgs— making sure that children aren't being-things that- making sure that children aren't being things that are being taught things that are trrpproprtrte— being taught things that are inappropriate and possibly a srtegurrttrg— safeguarding risk. and so as part— safeguarding risk. and so as prrt-wrr.— safeguarding risk. and so as prrt-wrr. tt- safeguarding risk. and so as part war, it seems that part of this war, it seems that ttsrey— part of this war, it seems that ttsrey rrve— part of this war, it seems that disney have decided not in ttorttr— disney have decided not in florida, but— disney have decided not in florida, but in— disney have decided not in florida, but in their california ttsrey— florida, but in their california ptsrey wort— florida, but in their california disney world to— florida, but in their california disney world to host this pride evert— disney world to host this pride evert wttr— disney world to host this pride event with disney— disney world to host this pride event with disney characters dresser— event with disney characters tresset tr— event with disney characters dressed in pride— event with disney characters dressed in pride costumes. event with disney characters dressed in pride costumes . and dressed in pride costumes. and it dressed in pride costumes. and tt seems— dressed in pride costumes. and tt to— dressed in pride costumes. and it seems to be— dressed in pride costumes. and it seems to be a— dressed in pride costumes. and it seems to be a sort of provocation _ it seems to be a sort of provocation ,- it seems to be a sort of provocation , but also possibly a provocation, but also possibly a ttttte— provocation, but also possibly a ttttte trt— provocation, but also possibly a ttttte ttt ot— provocation, but also possibly a little bit of woke— provocation, but also possibly a little bit of woke washing from the corporation.— little bit of woke washing from the corporation. but the stturttor— the corporation. but the situation in— the corporation. but the situation in florida is that ttsrey— situation in florida is that disney actually have special strtus— disney actually have special strtus. trey— disney actually have special status. they have special tax strtus— status. they have special tax strtus. trey— status. they have special tax status. they have— status. they have special tax status. they have their own potter— status. they have their own pottee. trey— status. they have their own police, they have their own fire servtee. — police, they have their own fire servtee. to — police, they have their own fire service. do they?— police, they have their own fire service. do they? so they almost operrte— service. do they? so they almost operrte trte— service. do they? so they almost operrte ttte r— service. do they? so they almost operate like a kind— service. do they? so they almost operate like a kind of state wttrtr— operate like a kind of state wttrtr r— operate like a kind of state within a state.— operate like a kind of state within a state. mickey mouse prtretprttty— within a state. mickey mouse principality, yeah. and ron tesrrtts— principality, yeah. and ron desantis has— principality, yeah. and ron desantis has been threatening to trte— desantis has been threatening to trte rwry— desantis has been threatening to trte rwry trts— desantis has been threatening to take away this status because of tretr— take away this status because of their exceptional— take away this status because of their exceptional republican trort— their exceptional republican front runner. _ their exceptional republican front runner. of— their exceptional republican front runner. ca” 979 front runner. of course. potentially. exactly. front runner. ca” 979 exactly . and potentially. exactly. and returtty— potentially. exactly. and returtty. you — exactly. and actually, you know, the same goes— actually, you know, the same goes tor— actually, you know, the same goes tor tre— actually, you know, the same goes for the metropolitan totter— goes for the metropolitan rottee. vou—
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goes for the metropolitan police. you could very easily trem— police. you could very easily accuse them of— police. you could very easily accuse them of whitewashing gtver— accuse them of whitewashing gtver rtt— accuse them of whitewashing given all-things- accuse them of whitewashing given all things that have given all the things that have eorre—trei come out about the met, the ttsrey— come out about the met, the ttsrey rrs— come out about the met, the ptsrey rrs r— come out about the met, the disney has a certain historical tres— disney has a certain historical ttes to— disney has a certain historical ttes to trtrgs— disney has a certain historical ties to things that the woke progresstve— ties to things that the woke progressive causes would eertrtrty— progressive causes would certainly not— progressive causes would certainly not agree with. and so it's certainly not agree with. and so tt-s possttte— certainly not agree with. and so it's possible that— certainly not agree with. and so it's possible that this is a trts— it's possible that this is a trts ts— it's possible that this is a trts ts r— it's possible that this is a this is a case— it's possible that this is a this is a case of- it's possible that this is a this is a case of yet another eorporrttor— this is a case of yet another corporation really trying to ttrrrty— corporation really trying to ttrrrty put— corporation really trying to firmly put their flag in the woke— firmly put their flag in the woke territory— firmly put their flag in the woke territory and be a be a ptryer— woke territory and be a be a ptryer or— woke territory and be a be a ptryer or trrt— woke territory and be a be a player on that that that's a terutttut— player on that that that's a beautiful understatement. i mean, you know,— beautiful understatement. i mean, you know, walt- beautiful understatement. i mean, you know, walt disney was further to the right than the soup spoon wasn't he? you know, there certainly was a great long tradition that. be tradition of that. he'd be spinning in his grave. absolutely. absolutely. because he be behind santas. he would be behind said santas. you go enough. but you don't go far enough. but i remember having a debate remember having a great debate in commons about, in the house of commons about, well, know, the great gay well, you know, the great gay men and women who contributed to history. of history. and somebody said, of course, know, plato was gay. course, you know, plato was gay. and what mickey mouse is and i say, what mickey mouse is dog was also do they dog was gay. it also do they know gay? who said he know plato was gay? who said he was? well, i mean, in rome and a lot of gay, they do say they was gay because he was a close male.
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they did say that the greeks trvertet— they did say that the greeks invented the _ they did say that the greeks invented the art— they did say that the greeks invented the art of sexual love. tut— invented the art of sexual love. tut tre— invented the art of sexual love. but the romans— invented the art of sexual love. but the romans introduced women into but the romans introduced women trto tre— but the romans introduced women into the equation. _ but the romans introduced women into the equation. yeah yeah, i trtrt— into the equation. yeah yeah, i trtrt-true. — into the equation. yeah yeah, i think-true. .listen,| think that's true. but listen, gust.— think that's true. but listen, gust. rust— think that's true. but listen, pust- rust-to— think that's true. but listen, just. just-do we- think that's true. 9 ~7r9ti;7 just do we know? think that's true. but listen,- just. just-do we know? what just. just how do we know? what tow— just. just how do we know? what tow uo— just. just how do we know? what how do we know ? we don't know. how do we know? we don't know. we do know a bit about the cultural practises classical cultural practises in classical times because we can read about it and there certainly it and there was certainly a sexual fluidity, let's say beautifully put, women for procreation , but boys for procreation, but boys for pleasure. right. but calm down, steve. when it comes to the mickey mouse thing, so what are they trying to do? i guess what trey-re— they trying to do? i guess what trey-re trytrg— they trying to do? i guess what trey-re trytrg to— they trying to do? i guess what they're trying to do— they trying to do? i guess what they're trying to do is- they trying to do? i guess what they're trying to do is to- they're trying to do is to ensure that— they're trying to do is to ensure that the next generation of ensure that the next generation ot ettttrer— ensure that the next generation of children, as— ensure that the next generation of children, as they grow up, do not of children, as they grow up, do rot errry— of children, as they grow up, do not carry homophobia within trerr. — not carry homophobia within trerr. art— not carry homophobia within trerr. art t— not carry homophobia within them. and i imagine that you woutt— them. and i imagine that you would probably— them. and i imagine that you would probably applaud that very rruer— would probably applaud that very much considering— would probably applaud that very much considering that, you know, you rrt— much considering that, you know, you rrt-ttrres.— much considering that, you know, you had _times. idid- much considering that, you know, you had times. did so in you had tough times. i did so in trrt— you had tough times. i did so in trrt respeet. — you had tough times. i did so in that respect. okay.— you had tough times. i did so in that respect. okay. but this is wrrt— that respect. okay. but this is wrrt t-ve— that respect. okay. but this is wrrt be got— that respect. okay. but this is wrrt be got r— that respect. okay. but this is what i've got a problem with. rts— what i've got a problem with. tt-s rrrttrg— what i've got a problem with. it's making young children think rtout— it's making young children think rtout se— it's making young children think about sex duality.— it's making young children think about sex duality. too young, too— about sex duality. too young, too yourg— about sex duality. too young, too yourg . — about sex duality. too young, too young . what- about sex duality. too young, too young . �*fvt779 too young. what what is too young, though? because, i mean, when i was at primary school, we thought little else. but thought about little else. but
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did you but you didn't- did you but you didn't think rtout— did you but you didn't think about homosexuality when you were-ae— about homosexuality when you were-at tt— about homosexuality when you were-7? i'd never- about homosexuality when you were 7? i'd never heard of were 6 or 7? i'd never heard of it were 6 or 7? i'd never heard of tt-t— were 6 or 7? i'd never heard of tt-t rs— were 6 or 7? i'd never heard of tt-t e— were 6 or 7? i'd never heard of tt-t e or— were 6 or 7? i'd never heard of it-i was 6 or 7.- were 6 or 7? i'd never heard of it i was 6 or 7. never it when i was 6 or 7. never rert— it when i was 6 or 7. never rerrt ot— it when i was 6 or 7. never rerrt ot tt. — it when i was 6 or 7. never heard of it. i— it when i was 6 or 7. never heard of it. ”cfc" it when i was 6 or 7. never heard of it. is�*ii“ heard of it. i remember my father telling me, he says, if you into a pub and there's you go into a pub and there's men wearing yellow socks and they offer a drink, they offer to buy you a drink, leave kyiv i think it's bit leave kyiv i think it's a bit a bit early in and did you ever go into a pub with a man with yellow soles. i've never seen. i always got free drink every i always got a free drink every time. i can't take him anywhere, you?— time. i can't take him anywhere, you? but— time. i can't take him anywhere, can you.7 but early— time. i can't take him anywhere, can you.7 but early in— i i can't take him anywhere, can you? but early in the morning. — can you? but early in the morning. yeah.- can you? but early in the morning. “43?" ' i can you? but early in the morning. “411? i“ ' is“i.“ morning. yeah. and french philosophers like foucault and simone but simone de beauvoir. but but i think argument think that their argument would be olds do need to be that six year olds do need to be that six year olds do need to be taught about sexuality. they would say that children would say that that children have sexuality. i'm not saying disney would this. disney would say this. i'm saying certain saying that there are certain progressive woke intellectuals who would make argument so who would make this argument so i think the issue here is a conflict what adults conflict over what adults believe for believe is appropriate for children. many people, children. there are many people, particularly in florida, who want safeguard want to protect and safeguard children. and also i think one aspect of this has got to be the fact that it's actually quite prevalent amongst some adults that, know, going to that, you know, going to disneyland. it's not just a kids
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thing anymore. and i think that there's this blurring of the line between adults children line between adults and children . this about power. this is . this is about power. this is about— . this is about power. this isi about—wan about truth, about power. walt disney,— about truth, about power. walt dim-disney— about truth, about power. walt disney, disney corporation disney, the disney corporation now-about- disney, the disney corporation now-about disney. now isn't just about disney worm. — now isn't just about disney worm. n-s— now isn't just about disney world. it's actually about hollywood— world. it's actually about houywooo .— world. it's actually about hollywood . it's about theatre. hollywood. it's about theatre. n-o— hollywood. it's about theatre. loo-mm — hollywood. it's about theatre. loo-mm ,— hollywood. it's about theatre. it's-film ,-about. it's about film, it's about streaming— it's about film, it's about streaming videos. so what? they connot— streaming videos. so what? they cannot afford— streaming videos. so what? they cannot afford to— streaming videos. so what? they cannot afford to upset that hollywood— cannot afford to upset that hollywood thing. so it's about powe- — hollywood thing. so it's about powe- con— hollywood thing. so it's about powo. can we— hollywood thing. so it's about power. can we just- hollywood thing. so it's about power. ci“ power. can we just allow children to be children and just grow up as disney should be about ? yes, exactly. so the about? yes, exactly. so the challenge. but when does a child stop— challenge. but when does a child stop being— challenge. but when does a child stop oowg o— challenge. but when does a child stop being a child?— fg but when does a child stop being a child? how we stop being a child? how do we ouow— stop being a child? how do we ouow-oo— stop being a child? how do we allow-to.childrenl allow children to be children without— without growing up being homophobic?— without growing up being homophobic? well i didn't grow up being— homophobic? well i didn't grow up being homophobic. but you grew— up being homophobic. but you grew up— up being homophobic. but you grow up with— up being homophobic. but you grew up with with people who were homophobic. but but but were homophobic. but but but but we're more worldly now. we're much more worldly now. kids are. no, no, you don't need disney to ram it down kids throats. i don't think you need to dress mickey mouse and minnie mouse costumes in mouse up in lgbt costumes in order to convince children to be nice to one another. i agree. yeah, i think the there's nothing sacred the way they've appropriated the rainbow is a fascinating kind of that's what
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children now used to be able to draw a rainbow and it's just a lovely rainbow. it's a natural feature. it meant there were going— feature. it meant there were going oo— feature. it meant there were going to no— feature. it meant there were going o no no— ii it meant there were going to be no floods. that's wnoi— going to be no floods. that's wnoi .— going to be no floods. that's wnoi i won— going to be no floods. that's what i was talking. that's what i what i was talking. that's what i woo— what i was talking. that's what iwoo iongni. — what i was talking. that's what i was taught. went to catholic i was taught. i went to catholic sonooi. — i was taught. i went to catholic school. _always- i was taught. i went to catholic school. _always told- i was taught. i went to catholic school. ciii school. i was always told that there was a pot of gold at the end of it. just if you know where to find it. did you ever ini— where to find it. did you ever find iii— where to find it. did you ever find in no— where to find it. did you ever find in no, i— where to find it. did you ever find it? no, | kept— �*" “i c did you ever find it? no, i kept looking, but,— find it? no, i kept looking, iwi, i— find it? no, i kept looking, iwi, i noon— find it? no, i kept looking, but, i mean, when i was in nonwo— but, i mean, when i was in snow-know- but, i mean, when i was in school, knew about gay school, all we knew about gay goonio— school, all we knew about gay people-kenneth- school, all we knew about gay people kenneth williams, you people was kenneth williams, you know—oi- know, and it was that sort of inner— know, and it was that sort of ninoi- n— know, and it was that sort of rather-it came- know, and it was that sort of rather-it came out,- rather fake. it came out, you know, never know, but it know, who never did know, but it was all sort of men throwing a light dart. was. it was. and was all sort of men throwing a ligwaslart. was. it was. and was all sort of men throwing a ligwas there was. it was. and was all sort of men throwing a ligwas there was;. it was. and was all sort of men throwing a ligwas there was somethingid it was there was something rather about that rather unhealthy about that because not because we were laughing not just with them, but sometimes at stephen. that was 85 years ago. bit stephen. that was 85 years ago. nit—inn. - stephen. that was 85 years ago. nii—inoi. nui- stephen. that was 85 years ago. bit—that. but we'vej bit longer than that. but we've woven— bit longer than that. but we've woven-inni— bit longer than that. but we've moved that and that is moved on from that and that is why with i think bev is why i'm with bev. i think bev is actually got a very important why i'm with bev. i think bev is actuathere. weary important why i'm with bev. i think bev is actua there. we have|portant why i'm with bev. i think bev is actua there. we have another point there. we have another wow,— point there. we have another wow-briefly— “ii; we have another very, briefly important very, very briefly important point— very, very briefly important point-wnion- very, very briefly important point-which is. very, very briefly important point which is that point to make, which is that ino— point to make, which is that no no— point to make, which is that no ino-oi— point to make, which is that it's the of putting point to make, which is that it's the the of putting point to make, which is that it's the the lgb jtting point to make, which is that it's the the lgb andg together the lgb and the t iogoinoi— together the lgb and the t together actually, there are nonw— together actually, there are nonow—o - together actually, there are nonow—o wowl many people who are very. concerned - activists concerned that trans activists are concerned that trans activists ore—nonw- concerned that trans activistsi are—really quite are actually being really quite nonognonio.— are actually being really quitei homophobic._is homophobic. so i think that is a really— homophobic. so i think that is a now-point. — homophobic. so i think that is a really-point. .was- homophobic. so i think that is a really point. really good point. it was always an issue for me about we
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an issue for me about why we went from lgb y tot went from lgb y to t get involved. well, they're went from lgb y to t get invoithey're well, they're went from lgb y to t get invoithey're not well, they're went from lgb y to t get invoithey're not gay. they're went from lgb y to t get invoithey're not gay. yeah.'e went from lgb y to t get invoithey're not gay. yeah. no, not, they're not gay. yeah. no, trans people are not gay. i don't understand you'd trans people are not gay. i- don't understand .you'd have don't understand it. you'd have to _ stonewall. . to take it up with stonewall. voon — to take it up with stonewall. voon _arniel to take it up with stonewall.j yeah _arnie or yeah yeah. lots of arnie or mickey you might mickey mouse. so you might have an soon, right? uk an opinion on soon, right? uk and and the and china. stephen and the guardian. must not pull guardian. the uk must not pull the down on china, the shutters down on china, cleverly warns the tories. this is a difficult balance to get right, it? our right, isn't it? our relationship ? not relationship with china? how not to them, but also not to alienate them, but also not to alienate them, but also not to condone some of their activities? well, this is i mean, james— activities? well, this is ii mean, james-has activities? well, this is i- mean, james-has made mean, james cleverly has made inn— mean, james cleverly has made this statement,— mean, james cleverly has made this statement, some of which is, won— this statement, some of which is, you know— this statement, some of which is, you know, department of the so is, you know, department of the ooowiono-n— is, you know, department of the so _obvious-hel so and so obvious because he oni— so and so obvious because he sow-io— so and so obvious because he ooii-io wow— so and so obvious because he said-is very big.- so and so obvious because he said is very big. and said china is very big. and i onio— said china is very big. and i said, wow— said china is very big. and i said, well, thank said china is very big. and i. said, well,_thank you said china is very big. and i- said, well,_thank you . said, well, no know. thank you. second— said, well, no know. thank you. second-economy- said, well, no know. thank you. second-economylthel second biggest economy in the world. he world. of course. yeah but he also goes to world. of course. yeah but he also goes-to say- world. of course. yeah but he also goes-to say and- world. of course. yeah but he also goes-to say and it's. : ci” iii. v/iiii“ but he also goes to say and it's got also goes on to say and it's got no— also goes on to say and it's got ii-o—giowoi- also goes on to say and it's got ii-o—niowoi in- it's an important player in environmental— it's an important player in environmental issues. well yes wow-n— environmental issues. well yes inow-n-now- environmental issues. well yes they're-new coal- environmental issues. well yes they're new coal fired they're opening a new coal fired power—connin- power stations every couple of down. —no-o— power stations every couple of down. —no-o saying. power stations every couple of days. he's saying is days. look what he's saying is on-noni,— days. look what he's saying is on-hand, we've- days. look what he's saying is on hand, we've got on the one hand, we've got a group— on the one hand, we've got a gong oi— on the one hand, we've got a grouri of pewte— on the one hand, we've got a group of people within the nniion— group of people within the british parliament who quite ngniw— british parliament who quite ngniw-wow- british parliament who quite rightly very upset rightly are very, very upset about— about technological interference, it interference, particularly in it systems— interference, particularly in it owoiono non — interference, particularly in it systems from china. know, systems from china. you know, the systems from china. you know, no nnowoi— systems from china. you know, the huawei, all— systems from china. you know, the huawei, all all that business.— the huawei, all all that business. other the huawei, all all that- business. _other hand, business. on the other hand, googio— business. on the other hand, googio ino— business. on the other hand, people like cleverly are saying, wow— people like cleverly are saying, wow-o— people like cleverly are saying, well,_a second,- people like cleverly are saying, well, a second, you
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well, hang on a second, you know— well, hang on a second, you know-noi— well, hang on a second, you know-noi-iol well, hang on a second, you- know,-not-to trade know, they're not going to trade wiin — know, they're not going to trade wiin iwno — know, they're not going to trade wiianno-goingl know, they're not going to trade with .who - going to i with us. who are they going to node—no- with us. who are they going to trade—he doesn't. trade with? what he doesn't wooing—in- trade with? what he doesn't realise._|'m he realise. and i mean, i'm sure he goos— realise. and i mean, i'm sure he does in— realise. and i mean, i'm sure he does ininoon— realise. and i mean, i'm sure he does ininoon oi— realise. and i mean, i'm sure he does in heart of hearts, as does in his heart of hearts, as oonnnoi— does in his heart of hearts, as countries-have- does in his heart of hearts, as countries have allies, countries don't have allies, inow— countries don't have allies, they-interest.- countries don't have allies, they-interest. s- countries don't have allies, they interest. s and if you they have interest. s and if you nonooiw— they have interest. s and if you honestly think— they have interest. s and if you honestly think that is honestly think that china is going—oi- honestly think that china is going—oi nignii going to lie awake at night winning,— going to lie awake at night thinking,_not| going to lie awake at night- thinking,_not offend thinking, oh, we must not offend the thinking, oh, we must not offend ino—inon- the united kingdom, there inionoio— the united kingdom, there interests lanka in interests are in sri lanka in mozambique,— interests are in sri lanka in mozambique, right the way mozambique, in right the way across—ino- mozambique, in right the way across _the way. across africa, right the way across caribbean. they're across the caribbean. they're inionoio— across the caribbean. they're interests—and . across the caribbean. they're- interests_and russia interests are global. and russia . won,— interests are global. and russia . noiilwoo— interests are global. and russia . well,iwas coming- interests are global. ' “i t well, was coming now that is . well, i was coming now that is a . well, i was coming now that is o-nionw— . well, i was coming now that is a-tricky-because- well, i was coming now that is a tricky because that a real tricky one because that is a real tricky one because that io-ono— a real tricky one because that io-ono ining— a real tricky one because that is-one thing that- a real tricky one because that is one thing that could tip is the one thing that could tip iningo— is the one thing that could tip things-favour.- things in putin's favour. absolutely— things in putin's favour. absolutely you know that. and inn-o— absolutely you know that. and that's terrifying. _ absolutely you know that. and that's terrifying. mean, he that's terrifying. i mean, he i mean,_few worldi mean, one of the few world iooion— mean, one of the few world leaders-still— mean, one of the few world leaders still talks to, of leaders he still talks to, of oowooi-o— leaders he still talks to, of course, is president z in course, putin is president z in cnino. — course, putin is president z in cnino. vio— course, putin is president z in china. we should- course, putin is president z in china. we should be- course, putin is president z in china. : : china. we should be worried about we should there about that. we should be there also in afghanistan because thereafter the lithium for the mobile is it? mobile phones. well, what is it? if.90_ mobile phones. well, what is it? n-go io— mobile phones. well, what is it? if-go to virtually— mobile phones. well, what is it? if-go to virtually any- well, what is it? if go to virtually any any if you go to virtually any any nosi— if you go to virtually any any ng iniion— if you go to virtually any any west indian island, you will ini— west indian island, you will find-concert- west indian island, you will find concert hall being find a new concert hall being owin— find a new concert hall being owinloiwo— find a new concert hall being built,lcivic centre.- built, a civic centre. and i mean,-places- mean, even in places like zoning.— mean, even in places like zoning-oo- mean, even in places like zoning-on .- mean, even in places like zambia. as i was there zambia. now, as i was there a oonnio— zambia. now, as i was there a oonnio oi— zambia. now, as i was there a oowgio of years— zambia. now, as i was there a couple of years ago, there's noni— couple of years ago, there's woni nw— couple of years ago, there's brand new buildings all over the wooe— place and the chinese workers, inow— place and the chinese workers, they-contribute - they don't contribute to the economy. - live - they don't contribute to the economy. -live in- they don't contribute to the economy. live in enclaves economy. they live in enclaves onen— economy. they live in enclaves inon oni— economy. they live in enclaves there and terrifying. there and it's terrifying. it is. there and it's terrifying. it in-gionoi— there and it's terrifying. it is. global imperialist is. it is a global imperialist urge,— is. it is a global imperialist wgo, wnion— is. it is a global imperialist urge, which is— is. it is a global imperialist urge, which is typical of china.
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innin— urge, which is typical of china. innn chino— urge, which is typical of china. innn cninn .— urge, which is typical of china. emma, china i think— urge, which is typical of china. emma, china i think that- urge, which is typical of china. emma, china i think that james cleverly seems to want us to have our cake and eat it. i think that the way that- think that the way that we have our think that the way that we have nooiioo— think that the way that we have our noodles and— think that the way that we have our noodles and the way that non,— our noodles and the way that no-o, non— our noodles and the way that he's, he's phrased his response to he's, he's phrased his response io poopin— he's, he's phrased his response io googio ino— he's, he's phrased his response to people like-ian- he's, he's phrased his response to people like ian duncan to people like by ian duncan sniin— to people like by ian duncan sniin saying— to people like by ian duncan smith saying that we're asleep at smith saying that we're asleep oi ino— smith saying that we're asleep oi ino wnooi.— smith saying that we're asleep at the wheel. i— smith saying that we're asleep at the wheel. i think ian duncan sniin— at the wheel. i think ian duncan sniin io— at the wheel. i think ian duncan sniin is igni— at the wheel. i think ian duncan smith is right. i— at the wheel. i think ian duncan smith is right. i think that non— smith is right. i think that he's equivocating. he said iningo— he's equivocating. he said wings-wo— he's equivocating. he said things-we have- he's equivocating. he said things we have to to things like, we have to go to noon— things like, we have to go to noon-wou— things like, we have to go to beth _we'll come- things like, we have to go to beth we'll come back to beth mead, we'll come back to wow. — you. but still to come, inflation but not by inflation is falling, but not by as much as it should have done. we'll more in a second. we'll find out more in a second. sorry. hello alex deegan here with latest update with your latest weather update from office. most us from the met office. most of us having from the met office. most of us nowing—oniiol having a dry day today. quite a few— having a dry day today. quite a fewlus— having a dry day today. quite a fewlus seeing— having a dry day today. quite a few us seeing blue skies few of us seeing blue skies iniongn— few of us seeing blue skies iniowgn ino— few of us seeing blue skies through the afternoon as well. nui— through the afternoon as well. on non— through the afternoon as well. nni inon io— through the afternoon as well. but there is an— through the afternoon as well. but there is an easterly breeze onu— but there is an easterly breeze oiiii winging— but there is an easterly breeze still bringing-of- but there is an easterly breeze still bringing-of a- but there is an easterly breeze still bringing of a chill still bringing a bit of a chill to one— still bringing a bit of a chill to some north— still bringing a bit of a chill to some north coast thanks to some north sea coast thanks to some north sea coast thanks io—nign— to some north sea coast thanks to_high pressure. to this area of high pressure eining— to this area of high pressure siting-nonn- to this area of high pressure sitting north, the wind sitting to the north, the wind going— sitting to the north, the wind going oowni— sitting to the north, the wind going around, the high pressure oioekwiee— going around, the high pressure clockwise. so— going around, the high pressure clockwise. so drawing in that eniiw— clockwise. so drawing in that eniiw ieei— clockwise. so drawing in that chilly feel on— clockwise. so drawing in that chilly feel on these north sea eooeei— chilly feel on these north sea eooeei nui— chilly feel on these north sea coasts. but for— chilly feel on these north sea coasts. but for the west in the ennenine— coasts. but for the west in the sunshine, again,— coasts. but for the west in the sunshine, again, western seoiioni— sunshine, again, western scotland probably seeing the nigneei—,- scotland probably seeing the highest_, gniiei scotland probably seeing thei highest_, quite a highest temperatures, quite a bit highest temperatures, quite a niileioni— highest temperatures, quite a bit-cloud over— highest temperatures, quite a bit cloud over england and bit of cloud over england and wines— bit of cloud over england andi woiee—inie wales seen some showers this morning— wales seen some showers this morning oe— wales seen some showers this morning over southwest. they morning over the southwest. they are morning over the southwest. they neowo—w- morning over the southwest. they
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oeowo—w now.- morning over the southwest. they aremost_away now.- morning over the southwest. they are most places away now. morning over the southwest. they are most places willaway now. morning over the southwest. they are most places willawa dry, w. so most places will be dry, eiowing— so most places will be dry, eiowing-eioniw- so most places will be dry, staying cloudy over parts staying fairly cloudy over parts of ine — staying fairly cloudy over parts of ine weno— staying fairly cloudy over parts of the west midlands, wales and eoninweei— of the west midlands, wales and southwest england. but turning sunnier over eastern england and nienw— sunnier over eastern england and gieniw oi— sunnier over eastern england and plenty of sunshine— sunnier over eastern england and plenty of sunshine for scotland, wonnein— plenty of sunshine for scotland, northern ireland— plenty of sunshine for scotland, northern ireland and northern ingeni— northern ireland and northern ingioni-in— northern ireland and northern england. in western england. 1819. in western swine,— england. 1819. in western scotland, 11— england. 1819. in western scotland, 11 or— england. 1819. in western scotland, 11 or 12 on that east eooei— scotland, 11 or 12 on that east coast inn— scotland, 11 or 12 on that east coast that will— scotland, 11 or 12 on that east coast that will feel pretty neon. — coast that will feel pretty neon. nu— coast that will feel pretty fresh. it'll turn- coast that will feel pretty fresh. it'll turn quite chilly overnigni— fresh. it'll turn quite chilly overnight as— fresh. it'll turn quite chilly overnight as well as the cloud tende— overnight as well as the cloud ienie io— overnight as well as the cloud tends to melt— overnight as well as the cloud tends to melt away in most gioeee. — tends to melt away in most gioeee. vie-ii— tends to melt away in most places. we'll see a bit of cloud ieweioging— places. we'll see a bit of cloud developing over— places. we'll see a bit of cloud developing over the pennines, but developing over the pennines, iwi geneioiw— developing over the pennines, but generally it'll be dry and new— but generally it'll be dry and clear through— but generally it'll be dry and clear through the night. enough of clear through the night. enough oi—eiog— clear through the night. enough of stop temperatures of a breeze to stop temperatures dropping— of a breeze to stop temperatures dropping-i— of a breeze to stop temperatures g.gppi.g-, nui— of a breeze to stop temperatures g.gppi.g-, but-bel dropping too far, but it will be gone— dropping too far, but it will be gene-enn— dropping too far, but it will be gene-sign io- dropping too far, but it will be quite start to thursday quite a fresh start to thursday morning. — quite a fresh start to thursday morning. some— quite a fresh start to thursday morning. some pockets of frost noeeinie— morning. some pockets of frost possible across— morning. some pockets of frost possible across parts of seoiioni— possible across parts of scotland through sheltered scotland through the sheltered eiene— scotland through the sheltered eiene neie. — scotland through the sheltered glens here. so— scotland through the sheltered glens here. so a— scotland through the sheltered glens here. so a fresh , bright glens here. so a fresh, bright soon— glens here. so a fresh, bright eion io— glens here. so a fresh, bright start to thursday.— glens here. so a fresh, bright start to thursday. plenty of ennenine— start to thursday. plenty of sunshine around. could still be fairw— sunshine around. could still be ioinw eiowiw— sunshine around. could still be fairly cloudy over— sunshine around. could still be fairly cloudy over the pennines oni— fairly cloudy over the pennines one sonne— fairly cloudy over the pennines and some cloud— fairly cloudy over the pennines and some cloud may develop at ines— and some cloud may develop at iinnee on— and some cloud may develop at iinnee on one— and some cloud may develop at times on the east— and some cloud may develop at times on the east coast and iner— times on the east coast and new in— times on the east coast and new in one— times on the east coast and later in the day,— times on the east coast and later in the day, notice this oi— later in the day, notice this area of cloud— later in the day, notice this area of cloud moving in across ion— area of cloud moving in across ioei angio— area of cloud moving in across ioei angiio in— area of cloud moving in across east anglia in the— area of cloud moving in across east anglia in the south—east, geinone— east anglia in the south—east, pernoge winging— east anglia in the south—east, perhaps bringing some late showers. _ it'si showers. but for many it's onoinei— showers. but for many it's another sunny— showers. but for many it's another sunny one come another sunny one to come tomorrow . again, quite cool on tomorrow. again, quite cool on the tomorrow. again, quite cool on ine eoe— tomorrow. again, quite cool on the east coast— tomorrow. again, quite cool on the east coast with that brisk
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wine. — the east coast with that brisk wine. nui— the east coast with that brisk wine. one for— the east coast with that brisk wind. but for the— the east coast with that brisk wind. but for the west, the temperatures— wind. but for the west, the temperatures are much above ownge— temperatures are much above oveneeweng—l temperatures are much above. oveneeweng— nign average in the mid or even high ieene— average in the mid or even high ieenelnioeee— average in the mid or even high teens-places that— average in the mid or even high teens places that cloud and teens in places that cloud and enowew— teens in places that cloud and enowew nin— teens in places that cloud and showery rain will— teens in places that cloud and showery rain will start to edge in funne— showery rain will start to edge in further across— showery rain will start to edge in further across the south eoeein — in further across the south eastern corner— in further across the south eastern corner of the country owing— eastern corner of the country during thursday— eastern corner of the country during thursday and during thursday night. and inn-e— during thursday night. and that's signals— during thursday night. and that's signals a bit more of a enonge— that's signals a bit more of a enonge oe— that's signals a bit more of a enonge on we— that's signals a bit more of a change as we into friday change as we head into friday oni— change as we head into friday and-weekend.— change as we head into friday and weekend. certainly for and the weekend. certainly for ingeni— and the weekend. certainly fori ingioni—eioni england and wales, more cloud oni— england and wales, more cloud one—snowen- england and wales, more cloud. and—showers possible england and wales, more cloud anifriday, showers possible england and wales, more cloud anifriday, whereasiowers possible england and wales, more cloud anifriday, whereasiowers pozande on friday, whereas scotland and wonnein— on friday, whereas scotland and northern ireland— on friday, whereas scotland and northern ireland stay sunny, ininge—oeoeei northern ireland stay sunny,- things_across the things turning colder across the nonn— things turning colder across the nonn owing— things turning colder across the north during the—
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it's 11 am. on wednesday, the 19th of april. this is to the point on gb news with me, andrew pierce and bev turner, of course, lots still to come this morning. supermarket the morning. supermarket hits in the goon.— morning. supermarket hits in the goon—on— morning. supermarket hits in the goon—on ine- morning. supermarket hits in the dock._on the shelvesi dock. food prices on the shelves soar-wholesale— dock. food prices on the shelves soar wholesale prices drop. a soar as wholesale prices drop. a groin— soar as wholesale prices drop. a woiiie eoning— soar as wholesale prices drop. a profits coming before customers as profits coming before customers on inflation— profits coming before customers as inflation stays— profits coming before customers as inflation stays above 10% and noni— as inflation stays above 10% and new snnon— as inflation stays above 10% and new snnok ,— as inflation stays above 10% and rishi sunak , he's— as inflation stays above 10% and rishi sunak , he's talking tough rishi sunak, he's talking tough on eco protesters— rishi sunak, he's talking tough on eco protesters there . : on eco protesters there. should be ashamed— on eco protesters there. should be ashamed of themselves. they should be because they're going to target the london marathon
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this you believe this weekend. can you believe that? sturgeon pressure to that? sturgeon under pressure to gen— that? sturgeon under pressure to gnii ine— that? sturgeon under pressure to gwii ine pony— that? sturgeon under pressure to gwii ine pony inn— s“ic7 sturgeon under pressure to quit the party that she “i7 sturgeon under pressure to quit the party that she led si7 sturgeon under pressure to quit the party that she led for weane— quit the party that she led for weone vie-ii— quit the party that she led for years? we'll discuss motorhomes , ionoiione— years? we'll discuss motorhomes , donations, arrests— years? we'll discuss motorhomes , donations, arrests and the former— , donations, arrests and the former first— , donations, arrests and the former first minister's future . former first minister's future. and— former first minister's future. and rnew-re— former first minister's future. and they're telling us that the coronorion— and they're telling us that the coronation cross— and they're telling us that the coronation cross will contain energe— coronation cross will contain enorie using— coronation cross will contain shards using crisis , christ shards using crisis, christ crucifixion. _ shards using crisis, christ crucifixion. that's what we're being told. we're a bit sceptical . being told. we're a bit sceptical. emma webb and stephen pound, we'll be back in the studio with us as well to tackle some more of the day's big stories. but first of all, let's get— stories. but first of all, let's ger ine— stories. but first of all, let's ger rne ne— but first of all, let's get the news headlines with arron— get the news headlines with arron armstrong . iig get the news headlines with arron armstrong . «iig g: arron armstrong. very good morning to you. it's a minute past 11. i'm arron armstrong in the gb newsroom food prices have risen to a 45 year high, putting further pressure on families struggling with the rising cost of living inflation has defied predictions by remaining above 10, largely because of soaring pnces 10, largely because of soaring
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prices of essentials like bread, milk and eggs , along with milk and eggs, along with clothes and shoes as and that's only been partially offset by cheaper energy . it makes another cheaper energy. it makes another interest rate rise from the bank of england next month more likely . the chancellor says the likely. the chancellor says the government will continue to focus on driving down inflation. well, this is a small headline fall , but it well, this is a small headline fall, but it disguises a large rise in food inflation, which is causing pressure to families up and down the country as they see their cost of their weekly food shop go up . and it shows that shop go up. and it shows that were— shop go up. and it shows that inere io— shop go up. and it shows that inere ie no— shop go up. and it shows that there is no such— shop go up. and it shows that there is no such thing- gi c. and it shows that there is no such thing as an ouronorie— there is no such thing as an automatic fall— there is no such thing as an automatic fall in— there is no such thing as an automatic fall in the headline rere— automatic fall in the headline rare or— automatic fall in the headline rate of inflation.— automatic fall in the headline rate of inflation. that's why we newe— rate of inflation. that's why we nowe o— rate of inflation. that's why we nowe o pion- — rate of inflation. that's why we have a plan. and— rate of inflation. that's why we have a plan. and if we're going to have a plan. and if we're going ro reneei— have a plan. and if we're going to reduce that— have a plan. and if we're going to reduce that pressure on ioniiiee— to reduce that pressure on families, it's— to reduce that pressure on families, it's absolutely essential— families, it's absolutely essential that we stick to that iron— essential that we stick to that won one— essential that we stick to that won one we— essential that we stick to that plan and we see— essential that we stick to that plan and we see it through so inor— plan and we see it through so no we— plan and we see it through so that we halve— plan and we see it through so that we halve inflation this weer— that we halve inflation this year ,— that we halve inflation this year , oe— that we halve inflation this weor , oe ine— that we halve inflation this year , as the prime minister has year, as the prime minister has promised— year, as the prime minister has promised .— year, as the prime minister has pronieei . ine— year, as the prime minister has promised . the recently sacked promised. the recently sacked noes— promised. the recently sacked nose or— promised. the recently sacked nose of ne— promised. the recently sacked boss of the cbi— promised. the recently sacked boss of the cbi claims his regwrorion— boss of the cbi claims his reputation has— boss of the cbi claims his reputation has been totally ieerrowei— reputation has been totally destroyed following sexual misconduct— destroyed following sexual misconduct allegations. tony donner—
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misconduct allegations. tony donner says— misconduct allegations. tony danker says he's— misconduct allegations. tony danker says he's been wrongly associated with an allegation of rape that allegedly took place before he joined. and he's been made a fall guy for a wider crisis within the business. lobbying group. the cbi fired mr danker and suspended three other employees earlier this month, stating his conduct fell short of what was expected . he's of what was expected. he's acknowledged he made some staff feel uncomfortable over unsolicited messages and has apologised . the government's apologised. the government's plans for an asylum centre in essex will be challenged in the high court later. braintree district council argues the proposals site at raf weather's field is unsuitable due to its isolated location and lack of capacity for local services. the government says using disused military bases to accommodate migrants will reduce reliance on hotels . the prime minister says hotels. the prime minister says climate protesters who disrupt sporting events should be ashamed of themselves . just ashamed of themselves. just stop. oil protesters forced the
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stoppage in play at the world snooker championship on monday. 118 demonstrators from the animal rising campaign group were arrested at aintree after delaying the start of the grand national at the weekend . they've national at the weekend. they've also vowed further disruption this summer until the government agrees to its demands, which could affect wimbledon and the open championship. the open championship. and the british grand prix, not to mention marathon this mention the marathon this weekend . meanwhile, the prime weekend. meanwhile, the prime minister will deliver the closing address at a conference in belfast to commemorate the 25th anniversary of the good friday agreement. rishi sunak will vow to give everything to tackle the problems of a divided society in northern ireland. the dup leader, sir jeffrey donaldson. though says unionists concerns about the protocol must first be addressed. shadow northern ireland secretary peter kyle told gb news the anniversary should be celebrated . people seem to be focusing on the . people seem to be focusing on rne goiirieoi— people seem to be focusing on the political challenges we have in srornonr— the political challenges we have in stormont at— the political challenges we have in stormont at the— the political challenges we have in stormont at the moment, but ion-r— in stormont at the moment, but ion-r forger— in stormont at the moment, but don't forget that— in stormont at the moment, but
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don't forget that 25 years ago the don't forget that 25 years ago rne eooi— don't forget that 25 years ago the good friday— don't forget that 25 years ago the good friday agreement ieiiwerei— the good friday agreement delivered peace. it ended armed owi— delivered peace. it ended armed civil conflict— delivered peace. it ended armed civil conflict it— delivered peace. it ended armed civil conflict it here in wonnern— civil conflict it here in northern ireland and it's been inereiinw— northern ireland and it's been incredibly successful . it's been incredibly successful. it's been an incredibly successful. it's been on enduring— incredibly successful. it's been an enduring piece— incredibly successful. it's been an enduring piece . of course the an enduring piece. of course the ponies— an enduring piece. of course the goiiriee noe— an enduring piece. of course the politics has been— an enduring piece. of course the politics has been harder to oeniewe— politics has been harder to achieve and— politics has been harder to achieve and some of the institutions— achieve and some of the institutions set up by the good rriiow— institutions set up by the good friday agreement— institutions set up by the good friday agreement are not up and running— friday agreement are not up and running or— friday agreement are not up and running or ine— friday agreement are not up and running at the moment. that's eonerning— running at the moment. that's something that— running at the moment. that's something that perhaps we'll weir—nur- something that perhaps we'll we'll—but we- something that perhaps we'll. we'll—but we should we'll talk about. but we should never achievements we'll talk about. but we should nevewere achievements we'll talk about. but we should nevewere were achievements we'll talk about. but we should nevewere were delivered nents we'll talk about. but we should nevewere were delivered byits we'll talk about. but we should nevewere were delivered by that that were were delivered by that ionroerie— that were were delivered by that fantastic generation 25 years ago— fantastic generation 25 years ago . — fantastic generation 25 years ogo . ine— fantastic generation 25 years ago . the labour- fantastic generation 25 years ago . ” ago. the labour leader is pledging to bring back blair style nhs targets to cut waiting times for patients. sir keir starmer has set out his vision to reform and rebuild health care ahead of the general elections . care ahead of the general elections. coming up next year and the local elections next month. speaking to the telegraph , sir keir says he will bring back single sex hospital wards and follow a target driven system . he's also accused system. he's also accused conservatives of breaking the nhs, but the government says it's working to cut the waiting lists. health workers will stage
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a fresh waves of strike strikes next month in a long running dispute over pay. unite says its members at some of the trusts. that's including south, central, south—east coast and west midlands ambulance services will take part in industrial action on the 2nd of may. meanwhile, the union members at guy's at saint thomas's in london and yorkshire ambulance service will strike on the 1st of may . the strike on the 1st of may. the snp is facing a critical moment and will be in trouble unless decisive action is taken over its financial crisis. that's according to kate forbes, a former leadership candidate to succeed nicola sturgeon , who succeed nicola sturgeon, who spoke to the bbc following police investigations into the party's finances. colin beattie is the second person to be questioned by detectives. they are now trying to establish how more than £600,000 in donations set aside for an independence referendum had been used.
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earlier this month, the scottish national party's former chief executive, peter murrell, was questioned for more than 11 hours. heathrow airports launched an appeal against the decision that it must cut charges for airlines. it comes as the civil aviation authority said the airport's average charge per passenger must be reduced by £6 over the next three years. but heathrow has accused the authority of undermine the investment needed at the airport . undermine the investment needed at the airport. king's coronation procession will be led by a cross that includes relics gifted by the pope . a relics gifted by the pope. a king charles was given to shards of the true cross of pope francis. to mark the occasion . francis. to mark the occasion. and the shards are said to have come from the cross used in the crucifixion of jesus christ . crucifixion of jesus christ. small fragments of it have been incorporated into the cross of wales, which will be seen by millions as it's carried into westminster abbey . this millions as it's carried into westminster abbey. this is gb news more as it happens. now it
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is back to bev and . is back to bev and. andrew welcome back . thanks forjoining welcome back. thanks for joining us. welcome back. thanks for joining ire— welcome back. thanks for joining in iron— welcome back. thanks for joining no new, eo— welcome back. thanks for joining us. it's 1107, so the— f f thanks forjoining us. it's 1107, so the latest iniiorion— us. it's 1107, so the latest inflation figures have been reieoeei— inflation figures have been released showing that the rate fell released showing that the rate ieii ro— released showing that the rate ieii ro iono— released showing that the rate fell to 10.1% last— released showing that the rate fell to 10.1% last month, down eiignriw— fell to 10.1% last month, down eiignriw iron — fell to 10.1% last month, down slightly from 10.4% in february. but slightly from 10.4% in february. nor ioni— slightly from 10.4% in february. but food prices— slightly from 10.4% in february. but food prices are— slightly from 10.4% in february. but food prices are still- slightly from 10.4% in february. but food prices are still the problem in the supermarkets. they're soaring, even though wholesale prices have been falling for 12 months. we're joined the mp for joined now by the tory mp for wokingham, john redwood. john redwood, . are redwood, morning to you. are these inflation figures pretty disappointing because we thought, we, they might thought, didn't we, they might slip single figures . yes, slip into single figures. yes, that have been better that would have been better news. i think the inflation is on ine— news. i think the inflation is on rne wow— news. i think the inflation is on the way down— i think the inflation is on the way down and we're seeing a on the way down and we're seeing e or— on the way down and we're seeing e or rower— on the way down and we're seeing a lot lower rate _ on the way down and we're seeing a lot lower rate by— on the way down and we're seeing a lot lower rate by the end of ne— a lot lower rate by the end of rne—ir-s— a lot lower rate by the end of the—it's proving. a lot lower rate by the end of. the—it's provinglbit the year. but it's proving a bit sticky and the it's done, sticky and the sooner it's done, the because what the better, because what we don't the bank of don't want is the bank of england the signal england taking the wrong signal from this and from all of this and intensifying squeeze and intensifying the squeeze and making life even more difficult , because i think they've done quite enough now tighten
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quite enough now to tighten up money credit and to hike money and credit and to hike interest rates . so you're saying interest rates. so you're saying no ro— interest rates. so you're saying no ro enorner— interest rates. so you're saying no to another rise— interest rates. so you're saying no to another rise in- “ciiiiirc so you're saying no to another rise in interest weer— no to another rise in interest roeer ionn— no to another rise in interest rates, john, are _ no to another rise in interest rates, john, are you better not to rates, john, are you better not ro nove— rates, john, are you better not to have another— rates, john, are you better not to have another one? ' “r: to have another one? and oerrninw— to have another one? and oerrninw ii— to have another one? and certainly if they had one more, that should definitely be it. i think there probably underestimating the impact of the banking wobbles in america and europe and that will tighten credit anyway. banks are going to be much more cautious. credit anyway. banks are going to be much more cautious . the to be much more cautious. the slowdown is very visible and there's very little growth in there's very little growth in the economy now, and people's real incomes have been badly hit. so i don't think we should have another attack upon those taking out mortgages or those companies borrowing money to invest. john, companies borrowing money to invest . john, we've seen this invest. john, we've seen this morning— invest. john, we've seen this morning ine— john, we've seen this morning the consumer price index,— morning the consumer price iniew ine— morning the consumer price index, the food— morning the consumer price index, the food prices have gone up by— index, the food prices have gone up by neoriw— index, the food prices have gone up by neoriw 20.— index, the food prices have gone up by nearly 20. meanwhile the wnoieeoie— up by nearly 20. meanwhile the wholesale prices— up by nearly 20. meanwhile the wholesale prices ,— up by nearly 20. meanwhile the wholesale prices , the wholesale prices, the supermarkets are buying those iooie— supermarkets are buying those foods for— supermarkets are buying those foods for have— supermarkets are buying those foods for have gone down quite eieeniw— foods for have gone down quite ereegiw. n— foods for have gone down quite ereegiw. rr ine— foods for have gone down quite steeply. if the government rearw— steeply. if the government really wanted _ steeply. if the government really wanted to help people , really wanted to help people, new— really wanted to help people, new eoure— really wanted to help people, new eowii io— really wanted to help people, they could do something about inor— they could do something about no .— they could do something about no . weir,— they could do something about that . well, they've got to know that. well, they've got to know we— that. well, they've got to know we ine— that. well, they've got to know what the government can directly io. — what the government can directly do. i— what the government can directly do. i think— what the government can directly
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do. i think the— what the government can directly do. i think the market- what the government can directly do. cc do. i think the market will correct. i think the food retailer is a pretty tough on the food suppliers. and i guess there are lags in the system. it takes time for the raw material costs to feed through because of course, a lot of the food is made fractured and you've got energy costs and labour costs on top of the underlying food material ills. but i agree we want that food price inflation to come down. so my recommendation for the government is to grow more food at home. i'm a bit fed up with them offering grants to farmers to stop growing food and now this natural england telling people they shouldn't be grazing their sheep on dartmoor. i think we want to do the opposite. i think we want to grow more food and graze more animals and have more home grown food . it more home grown food. it actually cuts the co2 compared with all the imports and i think people like home grown food and we are short of capacity. we need more food. so the price can come under better control . so come under better control. so you need to support the- c. so you need to support the farmers inr— you need to support the farmers first one— you need to support the farmers first and foremost,—
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you need to support the farmers first and foremost, we need to get— first and foremost, we need to get tormen— first and foremost, we need to get farmers producing more. ire-we— get farmers producing more. we've obviously— get farmers producing more. we've obviously got high price we've obviously got hiin price of we've obviously got high price of fertilisers— we've obviously got high price of fertilisers now— we've obviously got high price of fertilisers now because of ukraine.— of fertilisers now because of ukraine. that's— of fertilisers now because of ukraine. that's it. so you would very— ukraine. that's it. so you would wen noon— ukraine. that's it. so you would very nwen ewggon— ukraine. that's it. so you would very much support that ? «iig very much support that? very muon— very much support that? very much so.— very much support that? very much r— very much support that? very much so. i think— very much support that? very much so. i think we're spending too much money on stopping farmers farming with all these grants for wilding and all these regulations which impose cost . regulations which impose cost. and i think we should switch that. and i think that money should be used in the way that most use their most other countries use their farming promote farming subsidies to promote more the world more food because the world population is growing. the uk population is growing. the uk population is growing. the uk population is growing, with many migrants coming in more mouths to feed . so let's grow some more to feed. so let's grow some more food and let's have british food. we're proud of. i want a for department food production to give more of a an impetus to all this within defra. i don't think that voice in defra is nearly loud enough. john can i ask you something? you and i have ask you something? you and i nowe rowed— ask you something? you and i have talked for— ask you something? you and i have talked for many- “if you and i have talked for many years about war— have talked for many years about what conservative— have talked for many years about what conservative government snowi— what conservative government enonii io— what conservative government should do small— what conservative government should do small state, low taxes . i should do small state, low taxes . r ion-r— should do small state, low taxes . r ion-r rearw— should do small state, low taxes . i don't really sense that's wnor-e— . i don't really sense that's what's happening under rishi sonar— what's happening under rishi snnok noes— what's happening under rishi sunak doeslfeel- what's happening under rishi sunak does feel a very sunak does it feel a very conservative— sunak does it feel a very conservative administration to
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wow— conservative administration to you? — conservative administration to wow i no.— conservative administration to wow i we. r— conservative administration to you ? no, i think— conservative administration to you ? \i you? no, i think they could do much more on controlling expenditure and they inherited very generous spending plans in all sorts of areas. but i think more needs to be done to get better value for money and to concentrate state spending on those things that really need doing and on those people who need most help from the state. i think we've allowed the help to drift too, too far upwards. i'm not sure why we all not quite sure why we all benefit from control prices and subsidies for our energy bills when people on incomes when people on good incomes could have got without , for could have got by without, for example. now that will run off. but if we controlled expenditure better, then maybe the treasury would cheer up and give us the tax cuts we need. meanwhile, i think we desperately need the tax cuts to boost the revenue. i don't think the treasury model understands that if you put corporation tax rates up by 31, they've just done , you'll end up they've just done, you'll end up with less revenue, not more, because businesses will divert their activities overseas or they won't invest here in the growth we need . again, not just
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growth we need. again, not just food where chronic short of capacity of all kinds is. and then we mess up, say , the energy then we mess up, say, the energy sector so that people don't want to invest enough here. can i ask put this to you, john redwood, that liz truss has made the case for taxes is very unpopular for low taxes is very unpopular because of the way because of the cockeyed budget that she brought in last year. well, i think there were _ g i“ well, i think there were difficulties eieorw— think there were difficulties eieoriw tor— think there were difficulties clearly for liz— think there were difficulties clearly for liz truss and it's a great— clearly for liz truss and it's a great pity— clearly for liz truss and it's a great no one— clearly for liz truss and it's a great pity she resigned and we've now got— great pity she resigned and we've now got to make the case agein— we've now got to make the case again in— we've now got to make the case again in o— we've now got to make the case again in a different— we've now got to make the case again in a different way. but my nos— again in a different way. but my case has always— again in a different way. but my case has always been that i want to tax the rich and the successful companies more, not less. it'sjust successful companies more, not less. it's just the question of how do you do that? and i can tell you the way you do it is you have lower rates every time in the past, a conservative government cut the top rate of tax. they got more money from government cut the top rate of tax. rich,i got more money from government cut the top rate of tax. rich, not: more money from government cut the top rate of tax. rich, not less'e money from government cut the top rate of tax. rich, not less . money from government cut the top rate of tax. rich, not less . andiey from government cut the top rate of tax. rich, not less . and everym the rich, not less. and every time we cut the corporation tax rate on businesses, we got more money from business. that is the magic ingredient, which should be very popular politics. and i would urge rishi sunak again to
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study those figures and understand what past conservative governments have done , what the republic of done, what the republic of ireland is doing all the time to us, having a very low business tax and scooping the pool tax rate and scooping the pool on business activity and profits . this is something we should be doing here. and if 12.5% is the right business rate for the repubuc right business rate for the republic of ireland , why do we republic of ireland, why do we have to have 25? how does the government think we're going to attract the investments into northern let alone the northern ireland, let alone the rest gb? if we're charging rest of gb? if we're charging double the tax of the republic of ireland, which as a result raises far more money proportionately from business than we do. john, let me ask you abori— than we do. john, let me ask you about ine— than we do. john, let me ask you about the illegal— ii john, let me ask you about the illegal immigration eoroerronne— about the illegal immigration catastrophe which is unfolding at catastrophe which is unfolding or ine— catastrophe which is unfolding at the moment— catastrophe which is unfolding at the moment .— catastrophe which is unfolding at the moment. i— catastrophe which is unfolding at the moment. i don't think r-we— at the moment. i don't think we gor— at the moment. i don't think we got ine— at the moment. i don't think we got time .— at the moment. i don't think i've got time . i— at the moment. i don't think i've got time . i really want i'm i've got time. i really want i'm going— i've got time. i really want i'm going ro— i've got time. i really want i'm going to oer— i've got time. i really want i'm going to ask you— i've got time. i really want i'm going to ask you this question. i going to ask you this question. i rearw— going to ask you this question. i reoiw wont— going to ask you this question. i really want to _ going to ask you this question. i really want to know the answer. this— i really want to know the answer. this legal case today, ire— answer. this legal case today, in o— answer. this legal case today, in o wen— answer. this legal case today, in o wew nig— answer. this legal case today, it's a very big deal. this case roiow— it's a very big deal. this case roiow witn— it's a very big deal. this case today with braintree council in reser— today with braintree council in essex twing— today with braintree council in essex rwing ro— today with braintree council in essex trying to force through an ininnerion— essex trying to force through an injunction against— essex trying to force through an injunction against the government, putting people on
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weathersfield _ government, putting people on weathersfield airfield down were.— weathersfield airfield down there-happens- weathersfield airfield down there. happens is if they there. what happens is if they are successful— there. what happens is if they are successful because that sets the are successful because that sets rne precedent— are successful because that sets the precedent across the country , the precedent across the country . weir.— the precedent across the country . wgg, wnor— the precedent across the country , well, what happens if they're eneeeeeini— , well, what happens if they're successful is— , well, what happens if they're successful is the— , well, what happens if they're successful is the government wiri— successful is the government wiii rook— successful is the government will look for— successful is the government will look for other options, wnien— will look for other options, wnien they— will look for other options, which they think they can get inrongn— which they think they can get through .courts. - which they think they can get through courts. c through the courts. but what it reus— through the courts. but what it teue-is— through the courts. but what it tells is that local tells us is that local government and many people in our country, generous as we are and wanting to help refugees , is and wanting to help refugees, is think far too many people are coming in illegally. many of them not refugees at all. but it takes too long to find that out and they want the government to get better at stopping it. now, i'm very strongly in favour of what the prime minister said. he said stop the boat, so said he will stop the boat, so let's i think next let's do it. and i think next week parliament has an opportunity make that easier opportunity to make that easier and think the government's and i think the government's going to need a tougher law than the one we've been given in parliament as parliament so far because as we know the past, you state in know in the past, you state in law what you want to do and then the and the the lawyers and the international bodies , uh, get to international bodies, uh, get to work undermine policy . work and undermine the policy. okay. thank you, john. the voice of common sense. may i say john
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redwood? redwood, do redwood? john redwood, do you know interesting? when we know what's interesting? when we actually good know what's interesting? when we oernoiw-gooi row- actually interview good tory irre— actually interview good tory nine-o— actually interview good tory nine-o nnge- actually interview good tory mps, a huge amount of mps, there's a huge amount of common _feels- mps, there's a huge amount of common _feels like. common sense. it feels like inere-e— common sense. it feels like there's-team - common sense. it feels like there's team two. common sense. it feels like- there's-teamltwo. you've there's that team of two. you've got—ore- got sunak and hunt who are driving— got sunak and hunt who are driving rnie— got sunak and hunt who are driving this government in a very— driving this government in a very wngopwior— driving this government in a very unpopular direction. and wnen— very unpopular direction. and wnen won— very unpopular direction. and when you listen— very unpopular direction. and when you listen to good mps and john— when you listen to good mps and on redwood— when you listen to good mps and john redwood makes the point, you row— john redwood makes the point, you new ine— john redwood makes the point, you tax the rich— john redwood makes the point, you tax the rich more by cutting rares— you tax the rich more by cutting taxes because _ you tax the rich more by cutting taxes because they— you tax the rich more by cutting taxes because they pay more tax. inn-s— taxes because they pay more tax. inn-s right.— taxes because they pay more tax. inn-s rignr. rrs— taxes because they pay more tax. that's right. it's called— taxes because they pay more tax. that's right. it's called the- that's right. it's called the laffer curve. i think i remember from my economics now the national lottery is famous for supporting good causes. however, a gb news investigations revealed that the worionoi— investigations revealed that the national heritage national lottery heritage fund has national lottery heritage fund nos—ro— national lottery heritage fund nae—to swoon- has been used to support goiirieoi— has been used to support political causes, including a epeeen— political causes, including a speech described speech that described conservative - speech that described conservative politicians as devio— conservative politicians as iewiie .— conservative politicians as devils . well,— conservative politicians as devils . well, charlie peters has devils. well, charlie peters has inn— devils. well, charlie peters has this exclusive— devils. well, charlie peters has this exclusive .— devils. well, charlie peters has this exclusive . what where do this exclusive. what where do you— this exclusive. what where do you io— this exclusive. what where do you do witn— this exclusive. what where do you do with six— this exclusive. what where do you do with six figure lottery winningee — you do with six figure lottery winnings? it's— you do with six figure lottery winnings? it's a— you do with six figure lottery winnings? c : winnings? it's a question lots of britain's dream about answering. but for a collection of activists that dream became a reality in 2021, when the national lottery heritage fund awarded almost . £250,000 to a awarded almost. £250,000 to a group called 81 acts of
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exuberant defiance , the social exuberant defiance, the social change project was launched with support from campaign group the jubilee initiative , to mark the jubilee initiative, to mark the 1981 brixton riots . the money 1981 brixton riots. the money has helped the group put on 81 different events, which call on people to resist the whitening of our history. but gb news can reveal that some of the lottery funding has gone towards supporting a political speech by an activist breaching the fund's rules. campaigner stafford scott gave a talk at a brixton venue earlier this month which accused the royal family of being involved in slavery . he he involved in slavery. he he slammed the met as a gang executing black kids and said the government's crackdown on gangs was fascism . scott used gangs was fascism. scott used his lottery funded talk to describe boris johnson and other politicians as devils. and this man , this devil— politicians as devils. and this man , this devil you- c i. iii and this man , this devil you know mopac man, this devil you know mopac rignre — man, this devil you know mopac rignre vow— man, this devil you know mopac right? you need— man, this devil you know mopac right? you need to— man, this devil you know mopac right? /i:rc. : right? you need to know them. the devil is they— right? you need to know them. the devil is they are— the devil is they are devils. ani— the devil is they are devils. and in— the devil is they are devils. and in going— the devil is they are devils. and i'm going to show you that inew-re— and i'm going to show you that they're devils. _ and i'm going to show you that they're devils. this— and i'm going to show you that they're devils. i“ i“ they're devils. this woman called sophie linden. she's the
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deputy mayor for policing right now, right? she devil tory mp brendan clarke—smith said that lottery funding should not be used to promote political causes as well. this is the problem, ion-r— as well. this is the problem, ion-r ire— as well. this is the problem, ion-r ii i— as well. this is the problem, isn't it? i think— this is the problem, isn't it? i think when people play— isn't it? i think when people play ine— isn't it? i think when people play rne iorrew— isn't it? i think when people play the lottery , they want to play the lottery, they want to inor— play the lottery, they want to see that money— play the lottery, they want to see that money go into good causes-a lot— see that money go into good causes-a lot of- see that money go into good causes-a lot of it- see that money go into good causes a lot of it does , of causes and a lot of it does, of course, and we want to see that open— course, and we want to see that open in— course, and we want to see that spent in communities spent in our communities progeny.— spent in our communities- progeriw—wonr ro properly. what we don't want to see properly. what we don't want to eeelneing— properly. what we don't want to eeelneing-ior— properly. what we don't want to see being for these see it being used for is these noiirieoi— see it being used for is these political—thatl political causes, things that oernoiw— political causes, things that actually cause— political causes, things that actually cause more in actually cause more tension in the actually cause more tension in rne—rninkl the community. and i think inn-e— the community. and i think that's-really,- the community. and i think that's really, really that's why it's really, really important— that's why it's really, really important not— that's why it's really, really important not to look at important not just to look at ine— important not just to look at the applications,— important not just to look at the applications, but the organisations— the applications, but the organisations well, make organisations as well, to make eweoeen-ir- organisations as well, to make. ewe-ooeen-r-in sure that this doesn't happen in future. — sure that this doesn't happen in future. ine— sure that this doesn't happen in future. the national lottery neriroge— future. the national lottery heritage fund— future. the national lottery heritage fund said do not heritage fund said they do not define—rheo- heritage fund said they do not define _they leave. heritage fund said they do not| define _they leave it define heritage. they leave it up to applicants to make their own understanding is. own understanding of what it is. do you think that this talk that was £4,000 counts as was funded £4,000 counts as heritage ? well, heritage can heritage? well, heritage can e or— heritage? well, heritage can mean a lot of— 37 well, heritage can mean a lot of things , as we've mean a lot of things, as we've eni— mean a lot of things, as we've said were.— mean a lot of things, as we've said there, but— mean a lot of things, as we've said there, but i— mean a lot of things, as we've said there, but i don't think nonw— said there, but i don't thinki many—this many people would call this neriroge— many people would call this neriroge-ani- many people would call this heritage-and as- many people would call this heritage and as i said, heritage at all. and as i said, we wont— heritage at all. and as i said, we wont inor— heritage at all. and as i said, we want that money to be spent progeny.— we want that money to be spent progeny. r— we want that money to be spent progeny. r rnink— we want that money to be spent properly. i think a— we want that money to be spent properly. i think a lot of geogie— people feel very let down. cenoinw—oil people feel very let down.- certainly_of the certainly seeing some of the- comments—made certainly seeing some of the- comments_made and comments that have been made and wnere—
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comments that have been made and mere—going.- comments that have been made and where—going-iil where that money is going. but i rninn— where that money is going. but i rninn-o— where that money is going. but i think-a-problem- think this is a wider problem inor— think this is a wider problem not w-wee— think this is a wider problem that we've got— think this is a wider problem that we've got here. i mean, we nove— that we've got here. i mean, we have charities,— that we've got here. i mean, we have charities, we— that we've got here. i mean, we have charities, we have eonnnnirw— have charities, we have community interest companies have charities, we have comireally' interest companies have charities, we have comireally' intvehiclesipanies have charities, we have comireally' int vehicles fornies that really are vehicles for some-nonw- that really are vehicles for some nasty political views some quite nasty political views . ani— some quite nasty political views . ani rnie— some quite nasty political views . and we is— some quite nasty political views . and this is not— some quite nasty political views . and this is not really where money— . and this is not really where money-ne— . and this is not really where money-ire going.- . and this is not really where money be going. it's not money should be going. it's not in ne— money should be going. it's not in rne opini— money should be going. it's not in the spirit of— money should be going. it's not in the spirit of the— money should be going. it's not in the spirit of the sector. and money should be going. it's not in the isomethinge sector. and money should be going. it's not in the isomething needsr. and money should be going. it's not in the isomething needsr. abe i think something needs to be done— i think something needs to be done abori— i think something needs to be done about it. _ i think something needs to be done about it. a— i think something needs to be done about it. ' done about it. a national lottery heritage fund spokesperson that spokesperson said that its funding not used to funding should not be used to promote political beliefs, adding been in touch adding that it had been in touch with the jubilee initiative to discuss how the project would be delivered they that delivered. and they say that your odds of winning the lottery are 1 in 45,000,000. but it seems that the chances of your £1 going towards funding political activists is much higher. charlie peters gb news brixton . well, charlie joins us brixton. well, charlie joins us in the studio now. good morning, onene— in the studio now. good morning, cnoriie. ri— in the studio now. good morning, charlie. i'd like— in the studio now. good morning, charlie. i'd like to— in the studio now. good morning, charlie. i'd like to defend- i“ irccr: good morning, charlie. i'd like to defend the norionoi— charlie. i'd like to defend the national lottery. _ charlie. i'd like to defend the national lottery. if it wasn't for ine— national lottery. if it wasn't for the national— national lottery. if it wasn't for the national lottery, my ororner— for the national lottery, my brother couldn't— for the national lottery, my brother couldn't have swum in the brother couldn't have swum in rne owngiee— brother couldn't have swum in the olympics because he got inning.— the olympics because he got funding. ex—husband couldn't funding. my ex—husband couldn't newe— funding. my ex—husband couldn't have—olympics- have rowed in the olympics neeonee— have rowed in the olympics because funding . they've because he got funding. they've done— because he got funding. they've done some-work- because he got funding. they've done some work and the done some amazing work and the heritage— done some amazing work and the heritage runo— done some amazing work and the heritage fund currently heritage fund is currently
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working— heritage fund is currently working-oi- heritage fund is currently working of excellent working on lots of excellent rroieere— working on lots of excellent rroieere oe— working on lots of excellent projects as hundreds of millions working on lots of excellent prlpounds; hundreds of millions working on lots of excellent prlpounds; h restoringrf millions of pounds is restoring the rronnriige— ironbridge in telford, for example— ironbridge in telford, for examine-ir- ironbridge in telford, for example-it year. example, i visited it last year. i it example, i visited it last year. r-ir we— example, i visited it last year. i-it was absolutely- i thought it was absolutely sensational, the work they're doing there and really the point of investigation make of this investigation is to make sure they do have this sure that when they do have this funding, to the right funding, it goes to the right causes, that you causes, causes that you mentioned, the ironbridge, for example. many example. there are so many others we're others and unfortunately, we're seeing towards this highly seeing it go towards this highly political, controversial , political, very controversial, and some are saying rather divisive conversations . how does and some are saying rather divisisz conversations . how does and some are saying rather divisis makingsations . how does and some are saying rather divisis making these; . how does and some are saying rather divisis making these decisions, res who is making these decisions, cneriiee — who is making these decisions, charlie? well,— who is making these decisions, charlie? well, that's- who is making these decisions, charlie? �*fiiiicc who is making these decisions, charlie? : charlie? well, that's a freedom of request that will of information request that will wait receive . the wait to receive. the investigation on right . wait to receive. the investigation on right. but investigation goes on right. but it's that not sufficient it's clear that not sufficient oversight has happened here because the website itself for this 81 acts of exuberant defiance and it states as one of its aims to resist the whitening of history . that is a very stark of history. that is a very stark political statement which clearly breaches fund's clearly breaches the fund's rules . and it's on the front rules. and it's on the front page of website. and that's page of the website. and that's before you even take moment before you even take a moment like sit through the like i had to sit through the three talk, is meant three hour talk, which is meant to apolitical . to be overtly apolitical. precisely. and i can remember the precisely. and i can remember rne twee— precisely. and i can remember the fuss when _ precisely. and i can remember the fuss when john— 37�*”iii. and i can remember the fuss when john major said he was the fuss when john major said he going— the fuss when john major said he going-ir— the fuss when john major said he was going it because mrs. was going to do it because mrs. inerener— was going to do it because mrs. thatcher—allow- thatcher would never allow a
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rotten—eeri- thatcher would never allow ai lottery—saidlwas lottery because she said it was erete— lottery because she said it was state sponsored— lottery because she said it was state sponsored but state sponsored gambling. but she concedes— state sponsored gambling. but she concedes that it was a terrifie— she concedes that it was a terrific addition- she concedes that it was a terrific addition to national iiie. — terrific addition to national iiie. ani— terrific addition to national iiie. ani ee— terrific addition to national life. and as you— terrific addition to national life. and as you say, the great erert—ine- life. and as you say, the greati stuff—the olympics. stuff it's done in the olympics. we stuff it's done in the olympics. ore-ne— stuff it's done in the olympics. we - be rubbish - stuff it's done in the olympics. we-be rubbish at- we used to be rubbish at the ownnie— we used to be rubbish at the owngie—enonrl we used to be rubbish at the. olympic—about three olympic games, get about three neieie— olympic games, get about three medals _world. medals and now we're world neerere. — medals and now we're world neerere. rr— medals and now we're world beaters. it did— medals and now we're world beaters. it did .— medals and now we're world beaters. it did . how did camelot beaters. it did. how did camelot respond— beaters. it did. how did camelot reenoni ro— beaters. it did. how did camelot respond to when— beaters. it did. how did camelot respond to when you do this? weir.— respond to when you do this? well, actually,— respond to when you do this? well, actually, we reached out to ine— well, actually, we reached out to the heritage— well, actually, we reached out to the heritage fund and they new— to the heritage fund and they eeii-rnew-i— to the heritage fund and they said .they'd had- to the heritage fund and they said they'd had an said that they'd had an interaction— said that they'd had an interaction with the jubilee rnirieriwe— interaction with the jubilee initiative that _ interaction with the jubilee initiative that organised this ewenn — initiative that organised this eenr ner— initiative that organised this event. butlthink- initiative that organised this event. but i think that's clearly insufficient. so many of these very extreme, these remarks were very extreme, some even include in some we couldn't even include in the there. in one case the package there. in one case that tories don't give that the tories don't give a about black people, is an about black people, which is an extraordinary incendiary extraordinary and incendiary accusation to make. £250,000 has gone that statement . gone towards that statement. have they noticed the colour of the have they noticed the colour of rne nine— have they noticed the colour of the prime minister? well, greeieeiw— the prime minister? well, precisely-and. the prime minister? well, precisely-and home precisely, indeed. and the home seererew— secretary and the foreign seerererw— secretary and the foreign- secretary—further secretary indeed. and further comments. they describe that the government's on gangs government's crackdown on gangs as fascism . they as modern day fascism. they claimed that the equalities and human commission human rights commission was used to jeremy corbyn. this was to hang jeremy corbyn. this was charged political content and not i think people expect not what i think people expect their lottery funding to go towards what the national lottery only lottery say. we are only defending—
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lottery say. we are only defending free - ”g we are only defending free speech. lottery say. we are only defending free speech. may defending free speech. you may not defending free speech. you may nor-witn— defending free speech. you may not-with them,- defending free speech. you may not with them, but they're not agree with them, but they're eiiowei— not agree with them, but they're allowed—don't. allowed to say it. they don't define is. define what heritage is. heritage broad heritage is a very broad construct, they do very construct, but they do very specifically request that heritage make overt heritage does not make overt party with party political content with this. this clearly breaches the equality rights commission did a very, very similar significant landmark report on anti—semitism in the labour party . precisely. in the labour party. precisely. and concluded that the and it concluded that the leadership had not acted sufficiently and to claim that the tories kind of fixed that up again. another overt breach of the fund's rules. and it was keir starmer— the fund's rules. and it was keir starmer wokeist- “r: and it was keir starmer wokeist corbyn at the keir starmer wokeist corbyn at rne-renw.— keir starmer wokeist corbyn at ine-renw. inor- the labour party. it's not the roriee. — the labour party. it's not the roriee. vee— the labour party. it's not the tories. yes, indeed. that's to redirect— tories. yes, indeed. that's to redirect his eye. i think that speaker yeah, indeed. charlie. peter charlie. a peter great report, charlie. a courie— peter great report, charlie. a couple-your— peter great report, charlie. a couple-your views.- peter great report, charlie. a couple-your views. colin,l couple of your views. colin, which about the eco which is about the eco protesters. colin says the actions and proposed actions of the protesters is the climate protesters is appalling no appalling and self—defeating. no matter how they feel matter how strongly they feel that unacceptable . that actions are unacceptable. we're be looking at we're going to be looking at that well next that again as well in the next houn that again as well in the next hour. but also still to come, the anti monarchy the uk's largest anti monarchy group has revealed what phrase they want. thousands of people to chant at the coronation we'll tell you what it is in just a
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, which is on the route of the coronation. you're listening to . en— coronation. you're listening to . on news.— coronation. you're listening to . gb news. good— you're listening to . gb news. good morning . . gb news. good morning. look wner— . gb news. good morning. look wner r-we— . gb news. good morning. look wner r-we gor— . gb news. good morning. look what i've got hot— . gb news. good morning. look what i've got hot off the press . the brochure for the coronation cameron walker is it called a brochure , an official called a brochure, an official souvenir programme ? oh, it's souvenir programme? oh, it's a programme. it's not a brochure . programme. it's not a brochure. but that is. this is real neon.— but that is. this is real nierorw. ine— but that is. this is real history. the first coronation oinee— history. the first coronation rose. — history. the first coronation since 1953. and— history. the first coronation since 1953. and how are they? do rnew— since 1953. and how are they? do inew rerer— since 1953. and how are they? do inew reier ro— since 1953. and how are they? do they refer to camilla in there? war,— they refer to camilla in there? new. they— they refer to camilla in there? well, they refer— they refer to camilla in there? well, they refer to— they refer to camilla in there? well, they refer to her- they refer to camilla in there? well, they refer to her as- they refer to camilla in there? well, they refer to her as queen camilla. there is no question of the consort. we always led the queen consort. we always led to believe that perhaps after the we would be the coronation we would be referring her as the queen referring to her as the queen and camilla rather than and queen camilla rather than the queen consort. and it looks like press we've like the printing press we've yeah, they've jumped the gun a bit on that one. charles was eiwewo— bit on that one. charles was eiwewo going— bit on that one. charles was eiwewo going ro— bit on that one. charles was always going to have- c charles was always going to have his wife, wno— always going to have his wife, wno-eiwewo— always going to have his wife, who always going to his who was always going to be his geen — who was always going to be his queen. absolutely.— who was always going to be his queen. absolutely. always. abooieieiw— absolutely. even though when it
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was absolutely. even though when it weo—rnewl absolutely. even though when it. weo—rnew was announced in 2005, they were getting—pereeel getting engaged and the palace enoeneei ir— getting engaged and the palace announced it is— getting engaged and the palace announced it is intended, she wiri— announced it is intended, she win-known— announced it is intended, she will known princess will be known as princess eonoon— will be known as princess eonoon-in- will be known as princess consort. _in the. will be known as princess. consort. _in the times consort. i wrote in the times wnen— consort. i wrote in the times wnen r— consort. i wrote in the times wnen r weo— consort. i wrote in the times wnen r er— consort. i wrote in the times when i was at the- consort. i wrote in the times when i was at the time, not nee.— when i was at the time, not owe. one-ii— when i was at the time, not true. she'll be— when i was at the time, not true. she'll be the queen i rhini— true. she'll be the queen i think ir— true. she'll be the queen i think it was— true. she'll be the queen i think it was a— true. she'll be the queen i think it was a kind- true. she'll be the queen i think it was a kind of- true. she'll be the queen i think it was a kind of a. true. she'll be the queen i think it was a kind of a subtle and a subtle way to kind of bnng and a subtle way to kind of bring her in to the to public make sure that the public were happy with the terms queen consort only eight consort and it was only eight years of diana. years after the death of diana. and what they couldn't call her, of and what they couldn't call her, oi—rne— and what they couldn't call her, of_the princess- of course, was the princess of weieo. — of course, was the princess of weieo. veo. — of course, was the princess of wales. yes. and— of course, was the princess of wales. yes. and if- of course, was the princess of wales. “is; ' “r: �*" ”is“ii“ wales. yes. and if you remember back february 2022, the back in february 2022, the queen, late queen's queen, the late queen's accession she said accession day message, she said it sincere wish that it was her sincere wish that camilla one known camilla would one day be known as queen as as the as queen consort as soon as the queen died, the first buckingham palace statement announcing the queen's death referred to the king and queen consort and we have seen this gradual transition to the acceptance of queen camilla. and that is what we will get. there's adverts in it. cameron yeah , i didn't c cameron yeah , i didn't quite it. cameron yeah, i didn't quite i it. cameron yeah, i didn't quite r win-r— it. cameron yeah, i didn't quite r iiin-r gene— it. cameron yeah, i didn't quite i didn't quite expect— c cameron yeah, i didn't quite i didn't quite expect that mening— i didn't quite expect that making money, aren't they? i think— making money, aren't they? i wink-went— making money, aren't they? i think-want to— making money, aren't they? i think-want to make- making money, aren't they? i think-want to make it. making money, aren't they? i. think-want to make it cost think they want to make it cost effective. yeah. got land effective. yeah. it's got land roven effective. yeah. it's got land rover, and spencer rover, hackett marks and spencer says burberry the sort quite
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posh brands aren't they. there's you know brands are posh brands aren't they. - there's you know brands are used by onen— there's you know brands are used by rnen rw— there's you know brands are used by rnen by one— there's you know brands are used by them by the royals. xiiccy by them by the royals. exactly ween— by them by the royals. exactly ween .— by them by the royals. exactly ween . so— by them by the royals. exactly yeah . so brands with royal yeah. so brands with royal warrants. i'm also told that this program that some of the profits of it are very much going to charity. so it's not being pocketed by the royal family in any way. one of the significant things is the papers have talked about over the last few days is the inclusion of this photograph and this photograph of harry and meghan the then duchess of cambridge , their three children, cambridge, their three children, and charles and camilla as well. taken in 2018 by the royal photographer chris jackson, five years ago, five years ago. looks like very happy families in that photograph, doesn't it ? yeah, photograph, doesn't it? yeah, not so very happy family behind the scenes as harry speaks about at length in his memoir. this would have been post baby brain comments from meghan reported baby brain comments which reportedly upset the duchess of cambridge. so those falling out perhaps over bridesmaids dresses as well and all of that. but i
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think it's interesting that the king has chosen because, of course, he would have had to have signed this off because it's the official buckingham palace program that he has chosen. harry and chosen. a picture of harry and meghan to be featured in it. the papers have put the peace offering olive branch has been talked as think talked about as well. i think this perhaps might be the beginning of the end of the feud, least that's what feud, or at least that's what buckingham palace will be hoping. idoubt buckingham palace will be hoping. i doubt that. really. inew-we— hoping. i doubt that. really. inew-we-rnio- hoping. i doubt that. really. they've-this netflixi they've got all this netflix eonrreero— they've got all this netflixi contracts _ of contracts and there's talk of enorner— contracts and there's talk of another book _ contracts and there's talk of another book talk that she might do another book talk that she might io-noon. — another book talk that she might io-noon. r— another book talk that she might do-book. i can't- another book talk that she might do-book. i can't see- another book talk that she might do book. i can't see it do another book. i can't see it coming.— do another book. i can't see it coming. r— do another book. i can't see it coming. i think— do another book. i can't see it coming. i think it's wishful winning.— coming. i think it's wishful winning-ir- coming. i think it's wishful thinking. it thinking. thinking. maybe it is thinking. rer-o— let's ask michael cole because neo— let's ask michael cole because ne-olgreer— let's ask michael cole because ne-olgreer royal— let's ask michael cole because he's great royal commentator he's a great royal commentator eni— he's a great royal commentator eni ewen. — he's a great royal commentator and expert. _cole,- he's a great royal commentator and expert. cole, what and expert. michael cole, what do and expert. michael cole, what io—wirn— and expert. michael cole, what io—wirn nee- and expert. michael cole, whati do _with me? there's do you are you with me? there's no proogeer— do you are you with me? there's no prospect-this— do you are you with me? there's no prospect this feud coming no prospect of this feud coming to en— no prospect of this feud coming to en-in— no prospect of this feud coming to win my— no prospect of this feud coming to an-in my view.- to an end, in my view. absolutely— to an end, in my view. absolutely not. the two brothers, but william will not be speaking to his younger brother at all. the hurts too deep. brother at all. the hurts too deep . what has been said in the deep. what has been said in the book spare and on on television often has been too cruel and too
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wounding and too personal. the sort of things that should never have actually been taken outside the family and there should have been resolved within it . so been resolved within it. so i think there's no prospect of that. maybe never , ever. i hate that. maybe never, ever. i hate to say never , but i think that to say never, but i think that is the stark truth we have to look at, because what harry has doneis look at, because what harry has done is totally unprecedented . done is totally unprecedented. covid never before members of the royal family if they've even, you know, the duke of windsor wrote his book a king's story , that was very, very story, that was very, very circumspect in what he said . circumspect in what he said. michael , circumspect in what he said. michael, have you got your souvenir program yet or have we neeren— souvenir program yet or have we neeren woe— souvenir program yet or have we even beaten you to— souvenir program yet or have we even beaten you to it? well i'm so even beaten you to it? well i'm oo gree— even beaten you to it? well i'm oo giei iner— even beaten you to it? well i'm so glad that you— even beaten you to it? well i'm so glad that you said that . so glad that you said that. inew-re— so glad that you said that. they're obviously- so glad that you said that. they're obviously making a profit with it. uh and the adverts are there. do you know , adverts are there. do you know, in 53 arnie there were 8000 people. i don't know how they must have used a big shoehorn to
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get them inside the abbey, but there were 8000 people and everybody who there, the everybody who was there, the piers of the realm, allowed piers of the realm, were allowed to buy their chairs afterwards . to buy their chairs afterwards. and the and the coronation made a profit. i think it was £5. they were rather lovely, sort of light blue velvet chairs . in light blue velvet chairs. in fact, we used to live in a place called summer somerleyton and there were two of them in summer, late or because lord and lady somerleyton bought the chairs that they sat in at the coronation. but as we've talking about money and you've mentioned it themselves, mean , mr sunak it themselves, i mean, mr sunak wants us to do some. so let me give you a some, if i may. the coronation is going to cost . coronation is going to cost. £100 million and it's going to bnngin £100 million and it's going to bring in £1 billion. now that's a profit of £900 billion. and i believe that's 90. now, even goldman sachs doesn't make a profit of 90. so let's get that
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out of the way. but it's really not a question of pounds and pence. not a question of pounds and pence . a man does not live by pence. a man does not live by bread alone. this is a very spiritual and constitutionally vital moment. it's the most important moment for 70 years because it's symbolic. michael sorry to interrupt— because it's symbolic. michael sorry to interrupt you,- f c i. michael sorry to interrupt you, but we went— sorry to interrupt you, but we went to — sorry to interrupt you, but we went to eon— sorry to interrupt you, but we want to ask you— sorry to interrupt you, but we want to ask you about we're reining— want to ask you about we're reining oi— want to ask you about we're talking of the— want to ask you about we're talking of the symbolism this inne— talking of the symbolism this iirrie piece— talking of the symbolism this little piece of— talking of the symbolism this little piece of christ's cross, wnen— little piece of christ's cross, wnien io— little piece of christ's cross, which is now— little piece of christ's cross, which is now going to play a roie— which is now going to play a roie in— which is now going to play a roie in one— which is now going to play a role in the day— which is now going to play a role in the day .— which is now going to play a role in the day . what do you role in the day. what do you neke— role in the day. what do you nene oi— role in the day. what do you make of that? _ role in the day. what do you make of that? �*vw�*iicc " make of that? well, i love your interventions at any time . i'm interventions at any time. i'm very, very welcome . let me just very, very welcome. let me just explain that. his holiness , the explain that. his holiness, the p0pe explain that. his holiness, the pope has given as a gift a precious gift to the king two fragments of the holy cross. the cross upon which christ was crucified at calvary . and they crucified at calvary. and they have been mounts covid by great
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skill of goldsmiths company in this country into the welsh cross . and that will be borne cross. and that will be borne into the abbey. now of course , into the abbey. now of course, the things of this kind , uh , are the things of this kind, uh, are very, very important, particularly in the catholic church, less so in the church of england. but this is very important and of course, john calvin , the great reformer, the calvin, the great reformer, the great protestant reformer from switzerland , he said there were switzerland, he said there were enough elements and pieces of the holy cross around the world to fill a ship, but we the holy cross around the world to fill a ship , but we have to to fill a ship, but we have to accept and obviously the pope and i'm sure the king believes that these are fragments of holy cross on which christ was crucified for those years ago. and rose again from the dead and then ascended to heaven . so this then ascended to heaven. so this is a very important spiritual moment. it's the most important
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moment. it's the most important moment happens and it's often said and i'm sure andrew can back me up, but we don't have a written constitution. but we do have a coronation and that is central to everything we ever do because westminster says someone , the king is there, a head of state parliament is sovereign and they work together . and over and they work together. and over the years and it goes back a thousand years, it hasn't done too badly for this country. yeah, right. agreed thank you so much, yeah, right. agreed thank you so mug. nieneei— yeah, right. agreed thank you so much, michael cole. _ / g“c giiiii thank you so much, michael cole. always a pleasure. we've— much, michael cole. always a pleasure. we've run- much, michael cole. ii we've run out of time. pleasure. we've run out of time. cerneron— pleasure. we've run out of time. cameron walker,— pleasure. we've run out of time. cameron walker, next— ii we've run out of time. cameron walker, next time, if you— cameron walker, next time, if woe een— cameron walker, next time, if woe wing— cameron walker, next time, if you can bring in— cameron walker, next time, if you can bring in that little erooo-ger- you can bring in that little cross,-get extra- you can bring in that little cross, get extra prizes cross, you'll get extra prizes iron— cross, you'll get extra prizes from me— cross, you'll get extra prizes from me eni— cross, you'll get extra prizes from me and andrew. '“r: cross, you'll get extra prizes from me and andrew. ' “r: from me and andrew. and i'm a committed as can i say, as a committed as can i say, as a committed roman catholic. i love the it's a fragment of the idea. it's a fragment of the crucifix, but not is crucifix, but i'm not sure it is . ikind crucifix, but i'm not sure it is . i kind of like i like it's a ioweiw— . i kind of like i like it's a lovely idea. _ i kind of like i like it's a lovely idea. it's lovely idea. lovely. it's a ioweiw— lovely idea. lovely. it's a ioweiw iiee— lovely idea. lovely. it's a lovely idea. the- lovely idea. it's a lovely idea. the whole day. it's all symbolism. _ lovely idea. the whole day. it's all symbolism. the whole occasion anyway, all symbolism. the whole- occasion _anyway, still occasion isn't it? anyway, still to occasion isn't it? anyway, still ro—oewo- occasion isn't it? anyway, stilli ro—oewo rner to come, lord hague says that women—iner- to come, lord hague says that- women _their concerns women should ease their concerns over trans fears. do— women should ease their concerns over trans fears. do you agree ? over trans fears. do you agree? wnere— over trans fears. do you agree? wner-olgor— over trans fears. do you agree? wner-olgor ro— over trans fears. do you agree?
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what'slgot to do _ over trans fears. do you agree? what'slgot to do with- over trans fears. do you agree? what's it got to do with him? we'll your we'll find out after your rnornin-og— we'll find out after your. morning's-arron morning's news with arron arnorrong— morning's news with arron arnorrong .— morning's news with arron armstrong . very good morning to armstrong. very good morning to wow — armstrong. very good morning to wow rro— armstrong. very good morning to won its noe- — armstrong. very good morning to you. it's1134. i'm— armstrong. very good morning to you. it's 1134. i'm arron- you. it's 1134. i'm arron armstrong in the gb newsroom uk inflation has fallen, but not by as much as expected. with food pnces as much as expected. with food prices at a 45 year high, the cost of living was predicted to ease. but inflation currently stands at 10.1, down from 10.4% the previous month . savings on the previous month. savings on lower fuel costs have been cancelled out by soaring prices for bread, cereal and fruit, clothing and footwear prices have also gone up. the odds of the bank of england raising interest rates again next month have jumped the government's plans for an asylum centre in essex will be challenged in the high court today. braintree district council argues the proposed site at raf wethersfield is unsuitable due to its isolated location and lack of capacity for local services. the government says using disused military bases to
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here on gb news. the people's onennei— here on gb news. the people's channel britain— here on gb news. the people's channel britain is— here on gb news. the people's channel britain is watching . channel britain is watching. war,— channel britain is watching. war, were— channel britain is watching. well, we're talking about the peren— well, we're talking about the pepero eni— well, we're talking about the pepero ene nig— well, we're talking about the papers and big story in one of the papers and big story in one of one gepero— papers and big story in one of the papers about— papers and big story in one of the papers about william hague. noon— the papers about william hague. noon re.— the papers about william hague. noon to. r— the papers about william hague. used to. r think— the papers about william hague. used to. i think we're— the papers about william hague. used to. i think we're just- used to. i think we're just going to go to tom. we're going to tom first. sorry. we are. forgive me. tom tom harwood, wner-o— forgive me. tom tom harwood, wner-o on— forgive me. tom tom harwood, wner-o on wow— forgive me. tom tom harwood, what's on your show— i; tom tom harwood, what's on your show today, tom? inn-o— what's on your show today, tom? iner-o right.— what's on your show today, tom? iner-o rignr. rro— what's on your show today, tom? that's right. it's a— what's on your show today, tom? that's right. it's a very— what's on your show today, tom? that's right. it's a very busy- that's right. it's a very busy show today. of course, we're kicking off with prime minister's questions, looking ahead to what on earth is going to discussed between rishi to be discussed between rishi sunak and sir starmer. sunak and sir keir starmer. might it be that investigation , might it be that investigation, that parliamentary standards investigation into the prime minister or as it has been reported, might mps have been told off for talking about that by the speaker? there's also the snp drama that is going on right now, the front page of the
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scottish sun this morning asks will nick be nicked? might the prime minister bring up the turmoil in that party? very interesting to listen to what stephen flynn, the leader of that group in the commons, has to say after of course that main exchange. but it's not just prime minister's questions today. there's other big, big stories as well. gb news has, of course, this exclusive story on where lottery funding is going. is it fun doing political activism , particularly left wing activism, particularly left wing political activism? we'll be speaking more with charlie peters about that . but there are peters about that. but there are other big, big stories as well. this small boat story, the scandal on the south coast of england, might it be declared an emergency? a small boats emerged rac by the home secretary in a court case today will be getting a lot more on that. and of course, the big story that's ripping through our wallets right now, inflation. new numbers out all most 20% food inflation will be diving into those details with liam halligan as well. it's all to come from
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just before 12. thank you, tom. thank you . we are here with the thank you. we are here with the ororieo— thank you. we are here with the ororieo eni— thank you. we are here with the stories and also— thank you. we are here with the stories and also the big stories of one— stories and also the big stories of one day— stories and also the big stories or one iew eni— stories and also the big stories of the day and also director of one— of the day and also director of one common— of the day and also director of the common centre society, emma neon.— the common centre society, emma wrenn. eni— the common centre society, emma webb, and former— the common centre society, emma webb, and former labour mp siennen— webb, and former labour mp stephen pound— webb, and former labour mp stephen pound are still with us. reigne— stephen pound are still with us. nignr. wner— stephen pound are still with us. nignr. wner io— stephen pound are still with us. right. what do want to start right. what do we want to start witn— right. what do we want to start wirn. guwoe— right. what do we want to start wirn. gewoe rowi— right. what do we want to start with, guys? lord hague, come on, wner-o— with, guys? lord hague, come on, wner-o-wronen- with, guys? lord hague, come on, what's-women of- with, guys? lord hague, come on, what's women of the what's he doing? women of the win. — what's he doing? women of the win. lger— what's he doing? women of the wilger owe— what's he doing? women of the wi. .get over their- what's he doing? women of the wi. get over their trans w.i. to get over their trans ieero — w.i. to get over their trans fears. well,— w.i. to get over their trans fears. well, this- w.i. to get over their trans fears. i“ fears. well, this has been a joke for some time, isn't it? that people have said, oh, it'll be the next it'll be the women's institute? well, actually , now institute? well, actually, now this is the case. it's been imposed above by the wi, imposed from above by the wi, and members haven't voted on it. what they can that they must be wiring — what they can that they must be wiring to — what they can that they must be willing to allow— what they can that they must be willing to allow trans women who is willing to allow trans women who io iiwing— willing to allow trans women who io iiwing eo— willing to allow trans women who io iiwing eo e— willing to allow trans women who is living as a woman can join one— is living as a woman can join one wi— is living as a woman can join one win. — is living as a woman can join one win. so— is living as a woman can join the wi. so obviously this includes biological men. there are a lot of people who are members of the people , women who members of the people, women who are members of the wi. who are opposed to this . they're signing opposed to this. they're signing a petition wanting this to be put to a vote . and william hague put to a vote. and william hague in outrageous interview , has
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in outrageous interview, has essentially said that even though he believes that trans women shouldn't be allowed to compete in women's sports, he's essentially dismissed concerns and said really that the wi. can like it or lump it. this is just modern britain and they just modern britain and they just have to accept these things. and i think like things. and i think people like caroline been caroline fiske, who has been very about this, made a very vocal about this, made a very vocal about this, made a very good who's caroline fisher smart she is. is. i think smart as she is. she is. i think you could probably describe her as a of women's as being a sort of pro women's rights, sex face activist . rights, same sex face activist. and she quite rightly has pointed out that that we have a right to association in this country. that means a right to associate with people who are of the same sex. this should be up to the wi. william hague should absolutely keep his nose out of the. i completely agree . and i the. i completely agree. and i rhini— the. i completely agree. and i think that , you know, caroline think that, you know, caroline fiske is absolutely bang on the money with this that william hague really should just should butt out and they should be allowed make decision allowed to make this decision for members. it's for themselves as members. it's called the women's it's called the women's institute. rro— called the women's institute. rr-olrne— called the women's institute. rr-olrne-rr— called the women's institute. it's-the-it seems- called the women's institute.| it's-the-it seems like called the women's institute. . it's-the-it seems like a it's on the tin. it seems like a kind of stereotypical you could
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hardly up, but here we hardly make this up, but here we go. here we but i think this go. here we go. but i think this is very, very different to male born human beings competing in sport. if you are a middle—aged biologically born male who has transitioned to being a female and you want to go and bake some cakes on a sunday afternoon in your local church, i don't honestly think the members of the w.i. would be so small minded that they wouldn't. but. but. but should to but. but it should be up to new— but. but it should be up to wen-ro— but. but it should be up to them,-to william. but. but it should be up to- them,-to william hague. them, not up to william hague. it them, not up to william hague. rr-ne— them, not up to william hague. rr-ne imposed.- them, not up to william hague. it-be imposed. but- it shouldn't be imposed. but this is problem it shouldn't be imposed. but this is-problem-thisl this is the problem with this ieioeie—iol debate, isn't it, stephen, is iner— debate, isn't it, stephen, is rner—oo- debate, isn't it, stephen, isi that—so because that it's become so because of one— that it's become so because of one rreno— that it's become so because of the trans activists— that it's become so because of the trans activists making this own— the trans activists making this oeen e— the trans activists making this such a difficult— the trans activists making this such a difficult and divisive iooe— such a difficult and divisive eni— such a difficult and divisive issue and being— such a difficult and divisive issue and being so aggressive enoer— issue and being so aggressive enoer e— issue and being so aggressive enoer e ioo— issue and being so aggressive about a lot of— issue and being so aggressive about a lot of their messaging . about a lot of their messaging. it about a lot of their messaging. n-neeno— about a lot of their messaging. it-means that— about a lot of their messaging. it means that people like it has it means that people like wiiiien — it has it means that people like william _have_ it has it means that people like william _have to - it has it means that people like william have to get william hague have to get inwoiweri— william hague have to get involved-now,- william hague have to get involved. now, may i not involved. well now, may i not eiwewo— involved. well now, may i not eiwewo in— involved. well now, may i not eiwewo in e— involved. well now, may i not always in a positive way. .�*i�*i�*ire�*g always in a positive way. may i sound— always in a positive way. may i sound e— always in a positive way. may i sound e note— always in a positive way. may i sound a note caution ? if sound a note of caution? if i was an mp under tony blair when he addressed at the women's institute about 20 years ago and believes william do not mess with w.i, he was slow . handclaps with w.i, he was slow. handclaps are ferocious . i mean, we are ferocious. i mean, we thought of them as a rather
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delightful group of people obsessed with jam and jerusalem and a bit of home knitting. little did realise they motty little did we realise they motty ofsted us. they did. they turned up at our surgeries, they flooded and they flooded our inboxes and they made life hell. and it was because he went to the women's leadership conference and was party political patronised party political and patronised women. anyway and women. well, yeah. anyway and new— women. well, yeah. anyway and new oiow— i“ well, yeah. anyway and they slow hand—clapped him unprecedented— they slow hand—clapped him unprecedented extraordinary they slow hand—clapped him unpreceden ' “rgordinary they slow hand—clapped him unpreceden ' “g situation. amazing particularly the brownite who basically are sort of, you know, the female wing of the conservative party. you could the in number you could put the w.i. in number 10 you could put the w.i. in number ro eni— you could put the w.i. in number ro eni numero— you could put the w.i. in number 10 and number 11— you could put the w.i. in number 10 and number 11 downing street andlreckon— 10 and number 11 downing street andireckon they'd— 10 and number 11 downing street and reckon they'd sort this and i reckon they'd sort this country— and i reckon they'd sort this country-in— and i reckon they'd sort this country-in.hours.- and i reckon they'd sort this country in hours. well country out in 48 hours. well oenoinie. — country out in 48 hours. well sensible. _think- country out in 48 hours. well sensible. _think it- country out in 48 hours. well. sensible. _think it should sensible. i just think it should be their choice, the member's choice, not some executive telling them whether they will accept or not. that's an inrernei— accept or not. that's an internal matter,- if that's an internal matter, right? sure it is. internal matter, right? sure it io. rn— internal matter, right? sure it io. r-n oorw— internal matter, right? sure it io. r-n oorrw ii— internal matter, right? sure it is. i'm sorry if it's— internal matter, right? sure it is. i'm sorry if it's speaking of freedom — is. i'm sorry if it's speaking of freedom of— is. i'm sorry if it's speaking of freedom of association, is were— of freedom of association, is there nowhere— of freedom of association, is there nowhere that i can go any tor— there nowhere that i can go any torren— there nowhere that i can go any more forjam and— there nowhere that i can go any more for jam and jerusalem? ween.— more for jam and jerusalem? ween. ine— more for jam and jerusalem? ween. rne wi— more for jam and jerusalem? yeah. the w.i. is— more for jam and jerusalem? yeah. the w.i. is the- more for jam and jerusalem? yeah. the w. is the w.|.- more for jam and jerusalem? /iii“ i“r: yeah. the w.i. is the w.i. and i. and. yeah. the w.i. is the w.i. and i.and.andi yeah. the w.i. is the w.i. and i. and. and i think there is a very important point to be made here, though, which is that this is not about the is this is not just about the w.i. this is about gender
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ideology. this is about women's spaces it's not to spaces in general. it's not to make the distinction between women's just because women's sports just because there's competitive advantage there's a competitive advantage in and that's in women's sports. and that's not of miss is not the nature of the wi miss is the point, which is that if you allow people who identify as women, men who identify as women into women's spaces like the women's institute, do you allow them into prisons? i can i can hardly them into prisons? i can i can neriiw woe— them into prisons? i can i can hardly you know,— them into prisons? i can i can hardly you know, i— them into prisons? i can i can hardly you know, i can- 7 i can i can hardly you know, i can hardly neiiewe— hardly you know, i can hardly believe we're— hardly you know, i can hardly believe we're having this discussion.— believe we're having this discussion. it's- believe we're having this discussion. it's absurd. discussion. it's so absurd. ru— discussion. it's so absurd. iii-woe— discussion. it's so absurd. iii-woe e— discussion. it's so absurd. i'll-you a real- i'll give you a real life example. i play and example. i play netball and there's organised there's an organised woman called to netball. netball called back to netball. netball had in had a brilliant increase in women of my age who used to play netball. we've gone back and one day coach to us and she day the coach came to us and she said, right, ladies, it's meant to be women only. we've been approached by trans that approached by a trans woman that wants play. do wants to come and play. how do you it now? of you all feel about it now? of course, year. all course, this was a year. we all a bit somebody made some a bit and somebody made some jokes about drop balls and various things british people jokes about drop balls and variright?ings british people jokes about drop balls and variright?ings we :ish people jokes about drop balls and variright?ings we :ish pisure, do, right? and we said, sure, she play. we don't she can come and play. we don't mind. fun. netball we're she can come and play. we don't minwe're fun. netball we're she can come and play. we don't minwe're not. netball we're she can come and play. we don't minwe're not after)all we're she can come and play. we don't minwe're not after olympice not we're not after olympic medals. when you ever not medals. when were you ever not eonoeririwe— medals. when were you ever not eonpeririwee — medals. when were you ever not competitive ? .that's- medals. when were you ever not competitive ? .that's your. competitive? but that's your decision. not a top down
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decision. that's not a top down policy. but that wasn't but but yes,— policy. but that wasn't but but weo iro— policy. but that wasn't but but weo to nor— policy. but that wasn't but but weo. no not ir— policy. but that wasn't but but yes, it's not it wasn't- cg but that wasn't but but yes, it's not it wasn't the newer— yes, it's not it wasn't the netball association telling you you netball association telling you woe-newe— netball association telling you you-have-trans- netball association telling you- you-have-trans woman you had to have this trans woman in wow— you had to have this trans woman in wow reen. — you had to have this trans woman in wow reen. so— you had to have this trans woman in your team. so the— you had to have this trans woman in your team. so the 18, 20 in your team. so the 16, 18, 20 women, we all— in your team. so the 16, 18, 20 women, we all went, yeah, sure , women, we all went, yeah, sure, wnw— women, we all went, yeah, sure, wnw nore — women, we all went, yeah, sure, why not? because— women, we all went, yeah, sure, why not? because i— women, we all went, yeah, sure, why not? 1 i“
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from this quite quickly and saying, . no, saying, actually, sorry. no, i think misspoke. think he think i misspoke. i think he did. is absolutely did. your story is absolutely beautiful. know a beautiful. do you know there's a tv isn't there? tv series there, isn't there? yeah is. netball. tv series there, isn't there? yeah is. netball . no, tv series there, isn't there? yeah is. netball. no, no. yeah there is. netball. no, no. oh , yeah. yeah there is. netball. no, no. on . ween. ner— yeah there is. netball. no, no. on . ween. on r— yeah there is. netball. no, no. oh , yeah. but i think— yeah there is. netball. no, no. oh , yeah. but i think you- “iii“ siiii netball. vi oh , yeah. but i think you needed oh, yeah. but i think you needed the oh, yeah. but i think you needed rne piewer— oh, yeah. but i think you needed rne giewer ro— oh, yeah. but i think you needed rne giewer ro grew— oh, yeah. but i think you needed the player to play more than eni— the player to play more than once and would— the player to play more than once and would i— the player to play more than once and would i have wanted, you— once and would i have wanted, woe know.— once and would i have wanted, woe know. i— once and would i have wanted, woe know. i rneen— once and would i have wanted, you know, i mean, even though rnew— you know, i mean, even though rnew wee— you know, i mean, even though they were clearly— you know, i mean, even though they were clearly physically mere.— they were clearly physically male, would _ they were clearly physically male, would i— they were clearly physically male, would i have wanted to be bouncing— male, would i have wanted to be bouncing-against— male, would i have wanted to be bouncing against him a bouncing up against him in a oonneiiriwe— bouncing up against him in a competitive when bouncing up against him in a. competitive _when-goal competitive game when i'm goal defence— competitive game when i'm goal defence-woe— competitive game when i'm goal defence-you share- competitive game when i'm goal defence you share it? defence and did you share it? go.— defence and did you share it? we. r— defence and did you share it? no, i wouldn't. but— defence and did you share it? \i : i“ c but did you no, i wouldn't. but did you onere—roon- no, i wouldn't. but did you share—room with| no, i wouldn't. but did you- share_room with this? no, i wouldn't. but did you- shawe-room with this? no, i wouldn't. but did you- shawe did. -room with this? \i : i“ c but did you shawe did. �*vw�*ii room with this? \i : i“ c but did you shawe did. �*vw�*ii 1m with this? \i : i“ c but did you shawe did. �*vw�*ii f c. with this? no, i wouldn't. but did you- shawe did. we rock up ini this? no, i wouldn't. but did you shawe did. we rock up in ours? no, i wouldn't. but did you shawe did. we rock up in our kit no we did. we rock up in our kit after the school because after the school run because that's gets complicated, that's when it gets complicated, isn't your and isn't it? boot of your cars and put— isn't it? boot of your cars and oer-rreinero— isn't it? boot of your cars and put-trainers on. - isn't it? boot of your cars and put-trainers on. yeah.- put your trainers on. yeah. iner-o— put your trainers on. yeah. iner-o-io- put your trainers on. yeah. that's-do for- put your trainers on. yeah. - that's-do for football. that's what we do for football. ween. — that's what we do for football. ween. rro— that's what we do for football. ween. we won— that's what we do for football. yeah. it's you don't— that's what we do for football. yeah. it's you don't play- yeah. it's you don't play football. of course i do. viewing— football. of course i do. viewing-r- football. of course i do. walking-i think football. of course i do.- walking-i think we walking football. i think we newe— walking football. i think we. newe—wirn have to be really careful with this—and- have to be really careful with. this—andlthink this conversation. and i think it this conversation. and i think n-is— this conversation. and i think it is not necessarily wise it is it is not necessarily wise of william hague to get. i think it's terrible mistake. i have it's a terrible mistake. i have a said. a problem with what he said. it's the dismissive nature. get over yourselves. it's more complicated than that. william hague a great hague and we have it's a great organisation, the women's institute. great institute. it does great important— institute. it does great. important—in institute. it does great- important_in the important charity work in the community— important charity work in the community and— important charity work in the community and i think he's belittling— belittling them. yeah, absolutely. - belittling them. yeah,- absolutely. _best. absolutely. he knows best. i think—
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