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ssiiiany— headlines with the wonderful ssiiiany iissy— headlines with the wonderful ssiiiany iissy .— headlines with the wonderful bethany elsey . martin, thank bethany elsey. martin, thank you. — bethany elsey. martin, thank you. gossi— bethany elsey. martin, thank you. good afternoon.- bethany elsey. martin, thank you. ; " bethany elsey. martin, thank you. ;: you. good afternoon. i'm bethany elsey with your top stories from the gb newsroom at 12:00, former deputy prime minister dominic raab has blamed activists within the civil service for his downfall, saying they're holding the government back. he resigned yesterday after an investigation upheld some of the bullying allegations made against him. mr raab claims a minority of those within whitehall are effectively trying to block government. he told gb news that he's very confident he didn't behave in a bullying way to these allegations that were dismissed out of hand . and i think people out of hand. and i think people are out of hand. and i think people washing— out of hand. and i think people waisiiing .— out of hand. and i think people are watching . this— “g“i: and i think people are watching . this would be are watching. this would be surprised— are watching. this would be surprised that— are watching. this would be surprised that in scrutinising sivii— surprised that in scrutinising civil service— surprised that in scrutinising civil service ,_ surprised that in scrutinising civil service , it's— surprised that in scrutinising civil service , it's in making civil service, it's in making iiiai— civil service, it's in making sure that millions of pounds of iaxpaysis— sure that millions of pounds of iaxpaysis money— sure that millions of pounds of taxpayers money is not squandered— taxpayers money is not squandered .- taxpayers money is not squandered . being able to pull squandered. being able to pull very— squandered. being able to pull very senior— squandered. being able to pull very senior civil— squandered. being able to pull very senior civil servants, not irrier— very senior civil servants, not junior members— very senior civil servants, not junior members of staff, up and say,— junior members of staff, up and say. reek.— junior members of staff, up and say. reek. i— junior members of staff, up and say, look, i don't— junior members of staff, up and say, look, i don't have the

basis— say, look, i don't have the basic information to decide iris— basic information to decide iris riser— basic information to decide iris riser i— basic information to decide this, then i think it puts a handbrake,— this, then i think it puts a handbrake, a— this, then i think it puts a handbrake, a paralysing effect on ministers— handbrake, a paralysing effect on ministers delivering for the eriiisir— on ministers delivering for the eririsis reorie— on ministers delivering for the british people . _ on ministers delivering for the british people . �*jgijrz;;; : british people. well, shadow health minister andrew gwynne has condemned mr raabs behaviour since his resignation as appalling , saying those who've appalling, saying those who've blown the whistle have a right to do so . why the prime to do 50. why the prime iiirrisier— to do 50. why the prime minister, who— r::::r why the prime minister, who will have known sierr— minister, who will have known riser iirese— minister, who will have known about these allegations they weeni— about these allegations they weren't a secret— about these allegations they weren't a secret . he sought to weren't a secret. he sought to appeiri— weren't a secret. he sought to eppeirr rim— weren't a secret. he sought to eppeirr rim re— weren't a secret. he sought to appoint him to the second most senior position— appoint him to the second most senior position in— appoint him to the second most senior position in government as depriy— senior position in government as deprry prime— senior position in government as deputy prime minister. but also why— deputy prime minister. but also wiry ire— deputy prime minister. but also wiry ire iiirr-r— deputy prime minister. but also why he didn't sack dominic raab on why he didn't sack dominic raab or receiving— why he didn't sack dominic raab on receiving this— why he didn't sack dominic raab on receiving this report , why he on receiving this report, why he eiiewei— on receiving this report, why he allowed dominic— on receiving this report, why he allowed dominic raab to leave on his allowed dominic raab to leave on iris errw— allowed dominic raab to leave on iris rerms— allowed dominic raab to leave on his own terms and— allowed dominic raab to leave on his own terms and worst of all, rewiring— his own terms and worst of all, doubling down— his own terms and worst of all, doubling down on— his own terms and worst of all, doubling down on the whistleblowers, on the victims . whistleblowers, on the victims. i whistleblowers, on the victims. i ririrri— whistleblowers, on the victims. i ririrri rirer— whistleblowers, on the victims. | think that that— whistleblowers, on the victims. i think that that letter that reminis— i think that that letter that dominic raab— i think that that letter that dominic raab produced in his resiererierr— dominic raab produced in his resignation was— dominic raab produced in his resignation was quite frankly appalling— resignation was quite frankly appalling erre— resignation was quite frankly appalling and showed no humility and appalling and showed no humility are re— appalling and showed no humility and no contrition_ appalling and showed no humility and no contrition . _ appalling and showed no humility and no contrition . " and no contrition. in other news, a serving member of the british armed forces has been charged with offences under the

official secrets act. 36 year old thomas newson was charged on friday following an investigation by the metropolitan police's counter terrorism command. he's been remanded in custody and is due to appear at westminster magistrates court later. the health secretary, steve barclay , says he's going to court to stop the royal college of nursing strikes at the end of the month. industrial action is planned from the 30th of april to the 2nd of may. pat cullen the union's general secretary has accused the government of being desperate to silence nurses rather than address the pay nurses rather than address the pay issue . she added nursing pay issue. she added nursing staff want to be in a negotiating room, not a courtroom . the cbi has suspended courtroom. the cbi has suspended all policy and membership activity motty after allegations of rape and sexual assault prompted some of its biggest names to quit. dozens of members, including john lewis, natwest, jaguar , land rover and natwest, jaguar, land rover and bt are among those to pull out of the trade body. the cbi says

it shares the shock and revulsion over the allegations . revulsion over the allegations. the family of stephen lawrence are holding a memorial service in trafalgar square to mark the 30th anniversary of his murder . 30th anniversary of his murder. the 18 year old was killed in a racist attack while waiting for a bus . the mayor of london, a bus. the mayor of london, sadiq khan , and the labour sadiq khan, and the labour leader, sir keir starmer , are leader, sir keir starmer, are attending the service. mr khan said it was a time to celebrate the work of the lawrence family . we're here today to celebrate and remember stephen lawrence's life. his legacy. but also the extraordinary— life. his legacy. but also the extraordinary work— ; ”it; his legacy. but also the extraordinary work that's taken piece— extraordinary work that's taken piece by— extraordinary work that's taken piece by iris— extraordinary work that's taken place by his family. extraordinary work that's taken place by his family . j ”cc; " place by his family. doreen iwre iy— place by his family. doreen lawrence by their team to address the issues of equality , address the issues of equality, diversity and inclusion . foreign diversity and inclusion. foreign nationals , including from the nationals, including from the uk, us , france and china, are to uk, us, france and china, are to be evacuated from sudan as fierce fighting in the country enters its second week, the sudanese army says it has agreed

to help evacuate plans. the world health the world health organisation says 413 world health organisation says eis people— world health organisation says 413 people have— world health organisation says 413 people have been killed and iirewserris— 413 people have been killed and thousands more— 413 people have been killed and thousands more injured in the eewrrry— thousands more injured in the eewrrrry sire— thousands more injured in the country since the— thousands more injured in the country since the violence ireeerr. — country since the violence began. government forces there are began. government forces there irriiirrg— began. government forces there are battling with— began. government forces there are battling with a paramilitary group— are battling with a paramilitary prewp ever— are battling with a paramilitary group over control of the eepiiei— group over control of the capital khartoum . the united capital khartoum. the united sieres— capital khartoum. the united states supreme— capital khartoum. the united states supreme court has preserved— states supreme court has preserved access to a widely used— preserved access to a widely used abortion— preserved access to a widely used abortion pill, but warns of a used abortion pill, but warns of e irre— used abortion pill, but warns of e ierrp ripiri— used abortion pill, but warns of a long fight ahead as legal eireiierrpes— a long fight ahead as legal challenges continue. the ruling errer— challenges continue. the ruling are e— challenges continue. the ruling comes after a us— challenges continue. the ruling comes after a us district judge eppeirrrs— comes after a us district judge eppeirrrs py— comes after a us district judge appoints by donald trump issued an appoints by donald trump issued err irriwreiierr— appoints by donald trump issued an injunction to— appoints by donald trump issued an injunction to limit the availability— an injunction to limit the availability of— an injunction to limit the availability of the pill. mifepristone president biden's administration— mifepristone president biden's administration is seeking to referri— administration is seeking to defend ire— administration is seeking to defend the pill— administration is seeking to defend the pill amid mounting eieriierr— defend the pill amid mounting abortion bans— defend the pill amid mounting abortion bans and restrictions wirieir— abortion bans and restrictions wirieir wee— abortion bans and restrictions which were enacted by republicans- which were enacted by republicans who overturn turned in reis- — republicans who overturn turned in 1973. decision— republicans who overturn turned in 1973. decision to— republicans who overturn turned in 1973. decision to legalise eieriierr— in 1973. decision to legalise eieriierr .— in 1973. decision to legalise abortion . you're— in 1973. decision to legalise abortion . you're up to date on abortion. you're up to date on gb abortion. you're up to date on err news.— abortion. you're up to date on gb news. we'll— abortion. you're up to date on gb news. we'll bring you more as i— gb news. we'll bring you more news as it happens. now it's peei— news as it happens. now it's ireei re— news as it happens. now it's

pack is .— back to. martin iiirri- back to. martin i thank you i back to. martin thank you very much for that. now this now onto the huge story this week. hours after he resigned, former deputy prime minister dominic raab sat down with our very own olivia utley to give his thoughts on the report that ousted him. i'm very confident that i didn't behave in a bullying way. most of these eiiepeiierrs— bullying way. most of these allegations were— g most of these allegations were dismissed out of allegations were dismissed out or irri— allegations were dismissed out or irerri .— allegations were dismissed out or irerri . ireirrp— allegations were dismissed out of hand . being able to pull very of hand. being able to pull very eiwii— of hand. being able to pull very senior civil servants, not iwrier— senior civil servants, not junior members of staff, up and say,— junior members of staff, up and say. irri— junior members of staff, up and say. ieei. i— junior members of staff, up and say, look, i don't— junior members of staff, up and say, look, i don't have the basis— say, look, i don't have the basic information to decide iris.— basic information to decide iiris. iirei— basic information to decide this. that was— basic information to decide this. that was one of the things on this. that was one of the things or which— this. that was one of the things or wirieir i— this. that was one of the things on which i was— this. that was one of the things on which i was found to have been— on which i was found to have peep iwiiyirrp— on which i was found to have been bullying because i defended someone or because i said in reierierr— someone or because i said in reieiierr re— someone or because i said in relation to human rights reform or re— relation to human rights reform or re-mere— relation to human rights reform or to-more foreign- relation to human rights reform or to more foreign national or to get more foreign national errerriers— or to get more foreign national offenders removed from this eewriry— offenders removed from this country strengthen free country to strengthen free speeeir. — country to strengthen free speeeir. i— country to strengthen free speech. i said— country to strengthen free speech. i said i- country to strengthen free speech. i said i thought the ieperrrrerrr— speech. i said i thought the department were being obstructive. _ department were being obstructive. if these kind of wires— obstructive. if these kind of wires-re- obstructive. if these kind of things to bullying, then things amount to bullying, then i things amount to bullying, then i iirirri— things amount to bullying, then i iirirri ii— things amount to bullying, then iiirirri ii puis— things amount to bullying, then i think it puts a— things amount to bullying, then i think it puts a handbrake, a pereiysirrp— i think it puts a handbrake, a

paralysing effect— i think it puts a handbrake, a paralysing effect on ministers ieiiwerirrp— paralysing effect on ministers delivering for— paralysing effect on ministers delivering for the british peepie— delivering for the british peepie. — delivering for the british people . well,- delivering for the british people . �*jgijrz;;; ”(dig delivering for the british people . people. well, this story sent a bombshell through westminster. joining me to discuss this now is gb news political reporter catherine forster. catherine dominic coming out swinging there . he said that the there. he said that the complaints , the four years old, complaints, the four years old, they're coordinated, they're cabal conspired against him, warped and fabricated accounts . warped and fabricated accounts. he's clear the inquiry was flawed and he was stitched up . flawed and he was stitched up. does he have a point? well, certainly lots of people are very, very unhappy about what's happened , not just dominic raab. happened, not just dominic raab. a lot of conservative mps have spiri— a lot of conservative mps have said irri— a lot of conservative mps have said iirei iirey— a lot of conservative mps have said that they feel— a lot of conservative mps have said that they feel that there's an said that they feel that there's err eeriwisi— said that they feel that there's an activist civil— said that they feel that there's an activist civil servants as irerrirrie— an activist civil servants as dominic raab— an activist civil servants as dominic raab said, that our working— dominic raab said, that our weriirrp re— dominic raab said, that our working to undermine the pewerrrrrerrr— working to undermine the government, what the government are government, what the government rryirre— government, what the government rryirrp re— government, what the government rryirrp re re— government, what the government are trying to do and— government, what the government are trying to do and that effectively _ are trying to do and that effectively he - are trying to do and that effectively he was taken out because— effectively he was taken out because they _ effectively he was taken out because they didn't like his agenda.— because they didn't like his agenda wow— because they didn't like his agenda. now worth saying that eressirerreir— agenda. now worth saying that crossbench peer— agenda. now worth saying that crossbench peer this morning , crossbench peer this morning, irri— crossbench peer this morning, ieri simerr— crossbench peer this morning, lord simon mcdonald, he was prewiewsiy— lord simon mcdonald, he was prewiewsiy irre— lord simon mcdonald, he was previously the permanent seereiery— previously the permanent seereiery irr— previously the permanent secretary in the foreign office

arri— secretary in the foreign office are worked— secretary in the foreign office and worked with— secretary in the foreign office and worked with dominic raab. he has and worked with dominic raab. he ires eerie— and worked with dominic raab. he ires eur— and worked with dominic raab. he has come out and— and worked with dominic raab. he has come out and said that is eiseiwreiy— has come out and said that is eiseiwieiy .— has come out and said that is absolutely , categorically absolutely, categorically nonsense . he- absolutely, categorically nonsense . he said he saw the way nonsense. he said he saw the way repair— nonsense. he said he saw the way ieeeir es— nonsense. he said he saw the way ieeeir wiri— nonsense. he said he saw the way raab was with staff— nonsense. he said he saw the way raab was with staff and that he spoke— raab was with staff and that he spoke re— raab was with staff and that he spoke re irirrr — raab was with staff and that he spoke to him on— raab was with staff and that he spoke to him on several occasions was- spoke to him on several occasions was to try to get him to occasions was to try to get him re ireirewe— occasions was to try to get him to behave differently and that irerrrirrie— to behave differently and that dominic raab— to behave differently and that dominic raab was hurting his career. he said,— dominic raab was hurting his career. he said, by the way , he career. he said, by the way, he esi— career. he said, by the way, he wesrr-r perine— career. he said, by the way, he wasn't getting the— career. he said, by the way, he wasn't getting the best out of peepie— wasn't getting the best out of peepie py— wasn't getting the best out of peepie iry ireirre— wasn't getting the best out of people by being abrasive with were.— people by being abrasive with rirerr. irri— people by being abrasive with them, but that— people by being abrasive with them, but that dominic raab iiirr-r— them, but that dominic raab didn't listen— them, but that dominic raab didn't listen and he said the issue— didn't listen and he said the is— didn't listen and he said the is per— didn't listen and he said the issue is not that— didn't listen and he said the issue is not that civil servants iirei— issue is not that civil servants iirei ire— issue is not that civil servants that the issue _ issue is not that civil servants that the issue was— issue is not that civil servants that the issue was the ministers ireirewiewr. — that the issue was the ministers ireirewiewr. se— that the issue was the ministers behaviour. so dominic raab very wpsei— behaviour. so dominic raab very wpsei .— behaviour. so dominic raab very wpsei . a— behaviour. so dominic raab very upset . a number— behaviour. so dominic raab very upset . a number of conservative upset. a number of conservative iris— upset. a number of conservative iris very— upset. a number of conservative iiirs wery wpsei— upset. a number of conservative iiirs wery wpsei .— upset. a number of conservative iiirs wery wpsei . e— upset. a number of conservative mps very upset, a huge row going on mps very upset, a huge row going or erre— mps very upset, a huge row going or end eise— mps very upset, a huge row going on and also many— mps very upset, a huge row going on and also many people in the eiwii— on and also many people in the eiwii service— on and also many people in the civil service also— on and also many people in the civil service also very upset ieeewse— civil service also very upset ireeewse iirey— civil service also very upset because they now feel they are here— because they now feel they are ireri wow.— because they now feel they are hard work. their— because they now feel they are hard work. their impartiality ires— hard work. their impartiality ires peer— hard work. their impartiality has been called— hard work. their impartiality has been called into question erre— has been called into question erri eise— has been called into question erri eise ire— has been called into question and also the way— has been called into question and also the way it was handled yesreriey— and also the way it was handled yesrereey irr— and also the way it was handled yesterday in that— and also the way it was handled yesterday in that dominic raab put yesterday in that dominic raab per eer— yesterday in that dominic raab per ewi iris— yesterday in that dominic raab put out this really very cross resierreiierr— put out this really very cross resignation letter, follows it up by—

resignation letter, follows it up by a— resignation letter, follows it up iry e reeiiy— resignation letter, follows it up by a really excoriating piece in ire— up by a really excoriating piece in rire ireiiy— up by a really excoriating piece in the daily telegraph and then eewe— in the daily telegraph and then eewe ire— in the daily telegraph and then gave the various— in the daily telegraph and then gave the various interviews seyirre— gave the various interviews seyirre pew— gave the various interviews seyirre irew ire— gave the various interviews saying how he had been wrong . ed saying how he had been wrong. ed andrew— saying how he had been wrong. ed arrirew ewyrrrre— saying how he had been wrong. ed arrirew ewyrrrre .— saying how he had been wrong. ed andrew gwynne , the shadow health andrew gwynne, the shadow health seereiery— andrew gwynne, the shadow health secretary, talked— andrew gwynne, the shadow health secretary, talked to _ andrew gwynne, the shadow health secretary, talked to gb news a iiiiie— secretary, talked to gb news a iiirie iii— secretary, talked to gb news a little bit earlier.— secretary, talked to gb news a little bit earlier. he had a reiirer— little bit earlier. he had a rather different take, as you'd expeei. — rather different take, as you'd expeer. iei-s— rather different take, as you'd expect. let's have a little ieei— expect. let's have a little look, shall— expect. let's have a little look, shall we? �*" ”gui; expect. let's have a little- look, shall we? if you feel that you have been treated badly , if you have been treated badly, if you have been treated badly, if you feel that your people further up the feeding chain, whether that's your line manager or whether it's the minister of the crown , has belittled you, the crown, has belittled you, has bullied you, you have the right to call that out. and that's what these people have done. and i'm not going to iewiie— done. and i'm not going to iewiie-err— done. and i'm not going to double-on people- : and i'm not going to double on people who done. and i'm not going to- double -on people who feel double down on people who feel iirei— double down on people who feel iirei-irewe— double down on people who feel that-have been— double down on people who feel that have been treated that they have been treated ireiiy— that they have been treated badly-rightly- that they have been treated badly rightly blown that they have been treated- badly-rightly blown the badly and have rightly blown the wirisiie. — badly and have rightly blown the whistle. there— badly and have rightly blown the whistle. there have— badly and have rightly blown the whistle. "griz; whistle. there have been allegations of bullying permeating the corridors of power about dominic raab not just in his most recent department, but in previous departments . firstly, it does departments. firstly, it does beg the question why the prime minister, who will have known about these allegations and they

weren't a secret , sought to weren't a secret, sought to appoint him to the second most senior position in government as deputy prime minister but also why he didn't sack dominic raab on received this report, why he allowed dominic raab to leave on his own terms and worst of all, doubung his own terms and worst of all, doubling down on the whistleblowers, on the victims . whistleblowers, on the victims. i think that that letter that dominic raab produced in his resignation was quite frankly appalling and showed no humility and no contrition and no reflection on what others perceived to be bad behaviour on his part . well, perceived to be bad behaviour on his part. well, he's perceived to be bad behaviour on his part . well, he's not perceived to be bad behaviour on his part. well, he's not his worris— his part. well, he's not his words there,— his part. well, he's not his words there, but— " well, he's not his words there, but somebody else wire— words there, but somebody else wire speie— words there, but somebody else wire speie re— words there, but somebody else who spoke to gb— words there, but somebody else who spoke to gb news was jacob ieees—iieee— who spoke to gb news was jacob ieees—iiepe .— who spoke to gb news was jacob ieees—iiepp . erre— who spoke to gb news was jacob rees—mogg , and he said it was rees—mogg, and he said it was wrerre— rees—mogg, and he said it was wrerre er— rees—mogg, and he said it was wrerrp ei reei— rees—mogg, and he said it was wrong of rob to— rees—mogg, and he said it was wrong of rob to resign and perireps— wrong of rob to resign and perhaps rishi _ wrong of rob to resign and perhaps rishi sunak shouldn't irewe— perhaps rishi sunak shouldn't have accepted— perhaps rishi sunak shouldn't have accepted his resignation. wirei— have accepted his resignation. wirei ee— have accepted his resignation. we re yew— have accepted his resignation. what do you make of that ? �*jgijrz;;; what do you make of that? well, i what do you make of that? well, i-reeiiy— what do you make of that? well, i-reeiiy iisii — what do you make of that? well, i-really rishi sunak- i think really rishi sunak didn't have any choice, nor did dominic raab, because ultimately dominic raab, because ultimately dominic raab, because ultimately dominic raab had said very clearly if allegations against him were upheld that he would

resign . allegations against him resign. allegations against him were upheld, and therefore he had to go. i think, a relief for rishi sunak that he chose to resign rather than being sacked . they were huge allies . dominic . they were huge allies. dominic raab was helped massively rishi sunak its leadership campaign , sunak its leadership campaign, even though it was clear that liz truss was going to get the leadership. dominic raab carried on regardless, even going as far as that if the as saying that if the conservatives put liz truss with her economic policies in, it would be like a suicide note and obviously we know what happens after the mini—budget. so he had after the mini—budget. so he had a huge debt of gratitude to dominic raab. obviously now questions asked, why did he put him in in the first place? but important to say sure, dominic raab was known as a very tough taskmaster , but of course the taskmaster, but of course the report found he didn't shout at anybody. he didn't swear at anybody. he didn't swear at anybody. you know , the report is anybody. you know, the report is very nuanced . there's many, many very nuanced. there's many, many shades of grey . and what is

shades of grey. and what is bullying to one person is just being a being a hard working boss to another. i'd like to pick up on that because there is very much a feeling out there that we now somehow seem to live in this kind of cotton wool culture. and why are civil sewerris— culture. and why are civil servants kind _ culture. and why are civil servants kind of- {m ”c; and why are civil servants kind of cowering at ireirewiewr— servants kind of cowering at behaviour that, _ servants kind of cowering at behaviour that, for example, wewie— behaviour that, for example, wewie ire— behaviour that, for example, would be absolutely commonplace in would be absolutely commonplace irr-ereirrery— would be absolutely commonplace in ordinary workplaces? how in many ordinary workplaces? how are in many ordinary workplaces? how rirese— in many ordinary workplaces? how rirese peepie— in many ordinary workplaces? how are these people, for example , are these people, for example, swrwiwe — are these people, for example, survive-minutes- are these people, for example, survive minutes on survive five minutes on a iwiieirre— survive five minutes on a building site— survive five minutes on a building site or in a barracks? weii— building site or in a barracks? weii irres— building site or in a barracks? well, times have— building site or in a barracks? well, times have changed, irewerr-i— well, times have changed, haven't-and- well, times have changed, haven't-and go. well, times have changed,i haven't-and go back haven't they? and go back westminster, you know , gordon westminster, you know, gordon brown. it's not like the conservatives have a monopoly on this. gordon brown used to throw things mobile phones, etcetera, pushed a printer on the floor. apparently albie but you know, things have evolved and standard have changed. now, some people will say that we've gone too far the other way, but certainly i think not being shouted at and not having something thrown at you is a sort of minimum that you is a sort of minimum that you would expect now. okay, catherine, thank— you would expect now. okay, catherine, thank-for- : f okay, catherine, thank for that. catherine, thank you for that. are—ew— catherine, thank you for that. and-our other- catherine, thank you for that. and our other big and now on to our other big siery— and now on to our other big sieryliire— and now on to our other big sierylrire eey.— and now on to our other big story the day. the head of

story of the day. the head of ire— story of the day. the head of rire ieeyei— story of the day. the head of the royal college nursing has the royal college of nursing has irrerreisiree— the royal college of nursing has brandished barclay, the brandished steve barclay, the weeiiir— brandished steve barclay, the health secretary— brandished steve barclay, the health secretary as cruel he health secretary as cruel as he is sei— health secretary as cruel as he is seilpwrswe— health secretary as cruel as he is set-pursue legal- health secretary as cruel as he is set pursue legal action to is set to pursue legal action to siep— is set to pursue legal action to siep rrrses— is set to pursue legal action to stop nurses striking , saying stop nurses striking, saying ire-s— stop nurses striking, saying ire-s ireeiirre— stop nurses striking, saying he's treating the strikers like erirrirreis. — he's treating the strikers like criminals. catherine, back to you— criminals. catherine, back to yew err— criminals. catherine, back to yew err iris— criminals. catherine, back to you on this one.— criminals. catherine, back to you on this one. again, fighting reii. — you on this one. again, fighting reii. eer— you on this one. again, fighting reii. err yew— you on this one. again, fighting talk. but you said— you on this one. again, fighting talk. but you said to me earlier iris— talk. but you said to me earlier iiris is— talk. but you said to me earlier iiris is eirewi— talk. but you said to me earlier this is about a— talk. but you said to me earlier this is about a technicality of rrre— this is about a technicality of the deadline.— this is about a technicality of the deadline. is— this is about a technicality of the deadline. is that right? on the deadline. is that right? on rire siriie— the deadline. is that right? on the strike itself?— the deadline. is that right? on the strike itself? it is really ire— the strike itself? it is really iire-iresses— the strike itself? it is really the-bosses have- the strike itself? it is really the bosses have said that the nhs bosses have said that riris— the nhs bosses have said that iiris srriie— the nhs bosses have said that this strike is— the nhs bosses have said that this strike is illegal because rrre— this strike is illegal because rire ieerrs— this strike is illegal because the chs mandate that runs out wiiirirr— the chs mandate that runs out wiiirirr iris— the chs mandate that runs out within this 48— the chs mandate that runs out within this 48 hour strike that iirey-re— within this 48 hour strike that iirey-re pierrrrirre— within this 48 hour strike that they're planning next week . ' r: they're planning next week. and so they're planning next week. and se iiey-we— they're planning next week. and so they've asked— they're planning next week. and so they've asked the— they're planning next week. and so they've asked the health secretary steve barclay, to go and get a high court injunction to stop this strike. now, we'll wait to see what happens, but of course, there's huge concern about this strike because for the first time, nurses who previously agreed to provide cover for critical care critic care are saying that they will withdraw cover. there too. so huge, huge concerns about patient safety . and it will be patient safety. and it will be interesting to see if the strike

goes ahead. public support has really been with the nurses so far , whether that might start to far, whether that might start to change. and also, of course, the rcn bosses had recommended that their members accept the government's offer , and now the government's offer, and now the members thought differently by 54% on a very low turnout . but 54% on a very low turnout. but it's difficult now for pat cullen to go back, having previously said this is a deal worth taking. now saying, you know, we're being treated appallingly , what do we know? appallingly, what do we know? any details of what the prepared to any details of what the prepared re eeeepie— any details of what the prepared to accept? because— any details of what the prepared to accept? because i mean, this is-eemerres- to accept? because i mean, this is-demands like- to accept? because i mean, this is demands like 35% is ludicrous demands like 35% for is ludicrous demands like 35% fer—were- is ludicrous demands like 35% fer—were rerl for junior doctors, 17.5% for nurses . where— for junior doctors, 17.5% for nurses . where do you think nurses. where do you think iirey-re— nurses. where do you think iirey-re eeipp— nurses. where do you think they're going to— nurses. where do you think they're going to budge? and irreiiy— they're going to budge? and rirreiiy. iirre— they're going to budge? and finally, kind of— they're going to budge? and finally, kind of relinquish and give— finally, kind of relinquish and give irr— finally, kind of relinquish and give in because— finally, kind of relinquish and give in because those deals ewrsirip— give in because those deals ewrsrrip ery— give in because those deals outstrip any reasonable demand irerr— outstrip any reasonable demand rrerr ery— outstrip any reasonable demand from any normal— outstrip any reasonable demand from any normal worker , don't from any normal worker, don't iireye— from any normal worker, don't iireye — from any normal worker, don't rireye wen.— from any normal worker, don't they? well, who's— from any normal worker, don't they? well, who's to - from any normal worker, don't they? , ' r: they? well, who's to say? and honestly, i think they're in quite now quite a weak position now because, course , unison, because, of course, unison, another health union had voted to accept this deal . there's another health union had voted to accept this deal. there's a couple of other unions still to decide, but there will be a meeting on may the 2nd of the nhs staff council. and at that

all the unions will get together and they will vote on whether to accept this deal overall. so it might be that even though the rcn is holding out that in fact it's overridden in a week or so. so let's see. okay, catherine, iirerris— so let's see. okay, catherine, rirerris. i— so let's see. okay, catherine, thanks. i think— so let's see. okay, catherine, thanks. i think i— okay, catherine, thanks. i think i think the pwiriie— thanks. i think i think the pwpiie wiii— thanks. i think i think the public will be— thanks. i think i think the public will be praying for a resolution.— public will be praying for a resolution. i— public will be praying for a resolution. i think you're eirseiwreiy— resolution. i think you're absolutely right. if people sierr— absolutely right. if people sieri pessirre— absolutely right. if people start passing away because iirey-re— start passing away because they're-critical- start passing away because they're critical care, they're denying critical care, i iirirri— they're denying critical care, i iirirri-eeirre— they're denying critical care, i iirirri-eeirre-e- they're denying critical care, i. think-going-a game think that's going to be a game eirerreer—wel changer. and i really hope we can-some sort- changer. and i really hope we can-some sort of- changer. and i really hope we can some sort of deal can reach some sort of deal soon. catherine,— can reach some sort of deal soon. catherine, thanks for ieirrirre— soon. catherine, thanks fori joining—around soon. catherine, thanks for- joining_around for joining us. and stick around for the joining us. and stick around for ire-eke.— joining us. and stick around for ire-eiey. se- joining us. and stick around fori the-okay. so .we've the next hour. okay. so as we've resi— the next hour. okay. so as we've psi-peering.— the next hour. okay. so as we've just hearing, dominic raab just been hearing, dominic raab resierree— just been hearing, dominic raab resiprreeleepwiy— just been hearing, dominic raab resigned deputy prime resigned as deputy prime iiirrisier— resigned as deputy prime minister after— resigned as deputy prime minister after bullying minister after a bullying irrewiry— minister after a bullyingi inquiry—pee minister after a bullying- inquiry_had acted inquiry found that he had acted inquiry found that he had acted irrlirrieeer— inquiry found that he had acted in i integer dating _ inquiry found that he had acted in integer dating fashion in an integer dating fashion wiri— in an integer dating fashion with unreasonably and persistently- with unreasonably and persistently aggressive conduct . irri— persistently aggressive conduct . err reei— persistently aggressive conduct . but rob didn't— persistently aggressive conduct . but rob didn't go quietly. he seys— . but rob didn't go quietly. he seys iris— . but rob didn't go quietly. he says his departure sets a eerrperews— says his departure sets a dangerous precedent because it seis— dangerous precedent because it seis e— dangerous precedent because it seis e iew— dangerous precedent because it sets a low threshold for peiiyirrp— sets a low threshold for bullying, which will encourage spwriews— bullying, which will encourage spurious complain counts. well, ieirr— spurious complain counts. well, ieirr rrre— spurious complain counts. well, ieirr me ew— spurious complain counts. well, ieirr ire is— spurious complain counts. well, join me now is social policy erreiysr— join me now is social policy analyst raqeeb_ join me now is social policy analyst raqeeb ashon and the fewer— analyst raqeeb ashon and the former editor— analyst raqeeb ashon and the former editor of— analyst raqeeb ashon and the former editor of labourlist , former editor of labourlist, reier— former editor of labourlist, peter edwards, _ former editor of labourlist, peter edwards, a chap i've often iree— peter edwards, a chap i've often iree ieeiee— peter edwards, a chap i've often had locked horns— peter edwards, a chap i've often had locked horns with a superb eeirerer.— had locked horns with a superb debater. welcome— had locked horns with a superb debater. welcome to you both.

let debater. welcome to you both. iei es— debater. welcome to you both. iei es sierr— debater. welcome to you both. let us start with— debater. welcome to you both. let us start with you, dr. ieeeiriie— let us start with you, dr. ieepiriie ir— let us start with you, dr. raghib, if we— let us start with you, dr. raghib, if we can. what do you reeke— raghib, if we can. what do you meie er— raghib, if we can. what do you meie ei iris— raghib, if we can. what do you make of this idea— raghib, if we can. what do you make of this idea that the wreieeiee— make of this idea that the unelected civil— make of this idea that the unelected civil service is now rrre— unelected civil service is now rire ieii— unelected civil service is now rire reii wagging— unelected civil service is now the tail wagging the dog and iirey— the tail wagging the dog and iirey err— the tail wagging the dog and iirey eer— the tail wagging the dog and they can get rid— the tail wagging the dog and they can get rid of any minister iirey— they can get rid of any minister iirey eeri— they can get rid of any minister they don't like,— they can get rid of any minister they don't like, particularly iirese— they don't like, particularly iirese wiri— they don't like, particularly those with a _ they don't like, particularly those with a brexit bent? �*jgijrz;;; those with a brexit bent? well, i'd those with a brexit bent? well, i-e sey— those with a brexit bent? well, re sey. merrie.— those with a brexit bent? well, i'd say, martin, that— those with a brexit bent? well, i'd say, martin, that there's definitely scope for civil servants to provide advice and guidance. i servants to provide advice and guidance . i think the issue here guidance. i think the issue here is ie— guidance. i think the issue here is re wirer— guidance. i think the issue here is to what extent— guidance. i think the issue here is to what extent are— g. :f i think the issue here is to what extent are they inaya meerrirre— is to what extent are they inaya rreerrirrp wirerr— is to what extent are they inaya meaning when it— is to what extent are they inaya meaning when it comes to matters of meaning when it comes to matters ei eewerrrrrerrr— meaning when it comes to matters of government agenda , especially of government agenda, especially referrers— of government agenda, especially reforms based— of government agenda, especially reforms based on— of government agenda, especially reforms based on their own peiiiieei— reforms based on their own political beliefs— reforms based on their own political beliefs , ultimately political beliefs, ultimately eiwii— political beliefs, ultimately civil servants— political beliefs, ultimately civil servants based on the eiwii— civil servants based on the eiwii service— civil servants based on the civil service code are expected to civil service code are expected re ire— civil service code are expected to be impartial— civil service code are expected to be impartial ,_ civil service code are expected to be impartial, which ultimately— to be impartial, which ultimately means they should sewe— ultimately means they should serve eii— ultimately means they should serve all governments equally arnie— serve all governments equally arrrie re— serve all governments equally arnie to their— serve all governments equally arnie to their best of their eiriiiiy— arnie to their best of their ability, irrespective of their own political— ability, irrespective of their own political persuasions . and i own political persuasions. and i ririrri— own political persuasions. and i iirirri iirei-s— own political persuasions. and i think that's the _ own political persuasions. and i think that's the key point to ie— think that's the key point to rire eeireie— think that's the key point to the debate here. {3&3qu the debate here. okay, peter, i'd like to bring you in here as a voice from the labour side of the camp. do you rob the camp. do you think, rob really go? he deserved to

really had to go? he deserved to be booted out like this. yes. and would have be booted out like this. yes.- and .would have - sacked and he would have been sacked iree— and he would have been sacked pee—erre- and he would have been sacked had—and rishi. had he not resigned and rishi serei— had he not resigned and rishi super-erre— had he not resigned and rishi sunak and sources close sunak office and sources close to sunak office and sources close re irirrr — sunak office and sources close re irirrr see— sunak office and sources close to him seem to— sunak office and sources close to him seem to have made that eieer— to him seem to have made that eieer .— to him seem to have made that eieer. ie— to him seem to have made that clear. i'd like— to him seem to have made that clear. i'd like to— to him seem to have made that clear. i'd like to pick up on eiirer— clear. i'd like to pick up on one other point— clear. i'd like to pick up on one other point as well, which is irrexii. — one other point as well, which is irrexii. i— one other point as well, which is brexit. i don't— one other point as well, which is brexit. i don't think brexit ires— is brexit. i don't think brexit ires erryiirirre— is brexit. i don't think brexit has anything to— is brexit. i don't think brexit has anything to do with this. of course, dominic raab was a irresi— course, dominic raab was a brexit—secretaryl course, dominic raab was a. brexit—secretary and brexit tory brexit secretary and he brexit tory brexit secretary and ire weiee— brexit tory brexit secretary and he voted . leaving _ brexit tory brexit secretary and he voted leaving the eu he voted for leaving the eu just iiie— he voted for leaving the eu just iiie-swrei— he voted for leaving the eu just like-sunak-but- he voted for leaving the eu just like sunak but civil like rishi sunak did. but civil sewerris— like rishi sunak did. but civil servants-there— like rishi sunak did. but civil servants-there to- like rishi sunak did. but civil servants there to deliver servants are there to deliver pewerrrrrrerri— servants are there to deliver government policy and the reason that government policy and the reason iirei irerrirrie— government policy and the reason that dominic raab— government policy and the reason that dominic raab had to resign eerere— that dominic raab had to resign irerere ire— that dominic raab had to resign before he would— that dominic raab had to resign before he would have been sacked is per— before he would have been sacked is rrei ie— before he would have been sacked is rrei re ee— before he would have been sacked is not to do with— before he would have been sacked is not to do with brexit. it's eeeewse— is not to do with brexit. it's ireeewse ire— is not to do with brexit. it's because he humiliated officials and because he humiliated officials erre ire— because he humiliated officials erre ire wsee— because he humiliated officials and he used very— because he humiliated officials and he used very tough language ireeewse— and he used very tough language because permanent secretaries eerrpieirree— because permanent secretaries eerrpieirreeie— because permanent secretaries complained to him about his ireirewiewr— complained to him about his behaviour. and— complained to him about his behaviour. and according to one eeeewrr wirerr— behaviour. and according to one account, when he— behaviour. and according to one account, when he felt people rewire— account, when he felt people were talking too— account, when he felt people were talking too much, he put account, when he felt people weihanding too much, he put account, when he felt people weihand towards�*nuch, he put account, when he felt people weihand towards their he put account, when he felt people weihand towards their faces jt account, when he felt people weihand towards their faces ,: his hand towards their faces, wirieir— his hand towards their faces, wirieir is— his hand towards their faces, which is not— his hand towards their faces, which is not appropriate in an eriiee— which is not appropriate in an eriieelii-s— which is not appropriate in an office-it's-picking. which is not appropriate in an office-it's-picking up office. it's worth picking up though. dominic of course, denies those allegations denies all of those allegations . denies everything. but . he denies everything. but let's look somebody who's let's look to somebody who's seen as a as a leading luminary on the labour side of the camp. peter gordon brown, in his own memoir , came out, used to throw

memoir, came out, used to throw newspapers, pens, mobile phones, coca—cola cans are aides. he would abruptly leave meetings halfway through. people speaking. he was always shouting at people . so is it not a case at people. so is it not a case of there's one rule for you and one for tories ? no, i one rule for the tories? no, i don't think so. so first- , no, i don't think so. so first of all, eereerr—rrei- don't think so. so first of all,| gordon—not always gordon brown was not always sirewiirre— gordon brown was not always sirewrirre er— gordon brown was not always shouting at people. ,: shouting at people. secondly, i weii— shouting at people. secondly, i weii. i— shouting at people. secondly, i well, i worked for a labour mp in the ed miliband era and got to know some people work to know some people that work for brown. iwon't to know some people that work for brown. i won't use for gordon brown. i won't use their for gordon brown. i won't use weir-irri— for gordon brown. i won't use their- but there- for gordon brown. i won't use their- but there was. their names, but there was enormous personal loyalty the enormous personal loyalty to the peepie—rer- enormous personal loyalty to the people _for gordon. people that worked for gordon irrewrr — people that worked for gordon erewrr—rrerri people that worked for gordon. erewrr—rrerr ei people that worked for gordon- erewrr—rrerr ei e brown because he was a man of a lwes— brown because he was a man of a wisierrlwes e— brown because he was a man of a vision..was a man— brown because he was a man of a vision..was a man of- vision. he was a man of rrereriewsiy— vision. he was a man of notoriously hair shirted tastes. he notoriously hair shirted tastes. we—rire— notoriously hair shirted tastes. he _the trappings. notoriously hair shirted tastes. he the trappings and he didn't like the trappings and the he didn't like the trappings and ire-ei— he didn't like the trappings and the-of politics. - he didn't like the trappings and the-of politics. he- he didn't like the trappings and the of politics. it; “e�*j: the wealth of politics. he had a eieiei— the wealth of politics. he had a global vision for saving the banking crisis and the financial crisis 2008. and of course, crisis in 2008. and of course, ire— crisis in 2008. and of course, iire-wirerr— crisis in 2008. and of course, the-when you're- crisis in 2008. and of course, the-when you're a- ji.” " $2008 and of course, the when you're a labour the thing when you're a labour errerei— the thing when you're a labour errerei es i— the thing when you're a labour anorak as i am— the thing when you're a labour anorak as i am and you read all the biographies,— anorak as i am and you read all the biographies, is— anorak as i am and you read all the biographies, is he was also irrewrr— the biographies, is he was also irrewrr rer— the biographies, is he was also known for-the— the biographies, is he was also known for the personal known for all the personal ieweires — known for all the personal touches, the _ known for all the personal touches, the handwritten notes, the touches, the handwritten notes, ire—sierri the personal members of staff going— the personal members of staff peeing—irres- going through tough times like bereavement—hel bereavement or illness. so he e iirre— bereavement or illness. so he e iirre er— bereavement or illness. so he was a kind of multifaceted individual. _ was a kind of multifaceted individual. and- was a kind of multifaceted individual. r: was a kind of multifaceted individual. ' r: ripitr. was a kind of multifaceted individual. r: i individual. and of course he he had a temper like we all do at time. but, you know, you have to

pin,— time. but, you know, you have to pin, wiry— time. but, you know, you have to pin, wiry is— time. but, you know, you have to think, why is there— e but, you know, you have to think, why is there such loyalty to think, why is there such loyalty re irirrr — think, why is there such loyalty re irirrr emerg— think, why is there such loyalty to him among the— think, why is there such loyalty to him among the people that weriee— to him among the people that weriee irresi— to him among the people that worked most closely him? worked most closely with him? dr. worked most closely with him? ire-previe— worked most closely with him? dr.-maybe that's- worked most closely with him? dr.-maybe that's the. worked most closely with him? i dr. -maybe that's the way dr. hassan, maybe that's the way you tyrant so long as you can be a tyrant so long as you can be a tyrant so long as you send people nice letters. well, listen , i think everyone well, listen, i think everyone ires— well, listen, i think everyone has different— well, listen, i think everyone has different perspectives on wire— has different perspectives on we pwiiyirrp— has different perspectives on what bullying constitutes much of what bullying constitutes much ei wirer— what bullying constitutes much ei wirei i-we— what bullying constitutes much of what i've read— what bullying constitutes much of what i've read to be honest, in my— of what i've read to be honest, in my hometown— of what i've read to be honest, in my hometown of luton, people wiii— in my hometown of luton, people wiii sey— in my hometown of luton, people wiii sey. rirer-s— in my hometown of luton, people will say, that's just— in my hometown of luton, people will say, that's just the bread erre— will say, that's just the bread erre purer— will say, that's just the bread and butter every— will say, that's just the bread and butter every day happenings of and butter every day happenings ei ire— and butter every day happenings of the workplace _ and butter every day happenings of the workplace ._ and butter every day happenings of the workplace . but if truth of the workplace. but if truth be of the workplace. but if truth ire reie. — of the workplace. but if truth ire reie. i— of the workplace. but if truth be told, i think— of the workplace. but if truth be told, i think that when we're ieeiirre— be told, i think that when we're ieeiirre ei— be told, i think that when we're ieeiirrp er rire— be told, i think that when we're looking at the issue of the eiwii— looking at the issue of the civil service,— looking at the issue of the civil service, i— looking at the issue of the civil service, i think the key rrere— civil service, i think the key irere is— civil service, i think the key here is impartiality. and i ririrri— here is impartiality. and i iirirri irer— here is impartiality. and i think that there will be many conservative— think that there will be many conservative mps will be quite eiseppeirrree— conservative mps will be quite disappointed with this outcome and disappointed with this outcome erre rirey— disappointed with this outcome erre iirey wiii— disappointed with this outcome and they will believe that there may— and they will believe that there rrey weii— and they will believe that there rrey weii ire — and they will believe that there may well be too— and they will believe that there may well be too many civil sewerris— may well be too many civil servants who _ may well be too many civil servants who are - may well be too many civil servants who are ultimately more irrieresiee— servants who are ultimately more irrieresiee irr— servants who are ultimately more interested in blocking government- interested in blocking government reform. as i said, irere-s— government reform. as i said, iirere-s e— government reform. as i said, there's a capacity— government reform. as i said, there's a capacity for civil sewerris— there's a capacity for civil serwerrrs re — there's a capacity for civil servants to provide advice and ewieerree— servants to provide advice and pwieerree .— servants to provide advice and pwieerree . eer— servants to provide advice and guidance . but i— servants to provide advice and guidance. but i think servants to provide advice and guidance . but i think that when guidance. but i think that when if guidance. but i think that when i rirere-s— guidance. but i think that when if there's politically motivated interventions,— if there's politically motivated interventions, if— if there's politically motivated interventions, if that is taking piece.— interventions, if that is taking pieee. rirerr— interventions, if that is taking pieee. rirerr i— interventions, if that is taking place, then i do— interventions, if that is taking place, then i do think that's a

very— place, then i do think that's a very seies— place, then i do think that's a very serious issue. �*jgvjg; very serious issue. what's the evidence for that, please? what's the evidence for politically motivated interventions by civil servants? well, i'll you be well, i'll give you i'll be they've examples of twitter they've even examples of twitter accounts affiliated with the civil service being abused, making very clear, politically motivated statements . i think motivated statements. i think you'd agree if that— motivated statements. i think you'd agree if that was- you'd agree if that was happening— you'd agree if that was happening under a labour eeverrrrrerri— happening under a labour peverrrrrrerri ,_ happening under a labour government , you would be government, you would be eereemrrirre— government, you would be condemning that. so equally you sirewie— condemning that. so equally you sirewie ire— condemning that. so equally you should be condemning that kind of should be condemning that kind ei—eese- should be condemning that kind er—eese es- of behaviour in this case as weii— of behaviour in this case as weii. weii— of behaviour in this case as well. well as— of behaviour in this case as well. well as far- of behaviour in this case as well. well as far as i'm aware, rirere-s— well. well as far as i'm aware, iirere-s rrer— well. well as far as i'm aware, there's not been— well. well as far as i'm aware, there's not been a— well. well as far as i'm aware, there's not been a suggestion iirey-re—irr- there's not been a suggestion iirey-re—irr iire- there's not been a suggestion. they're—in the course there's not been a suggestion thitheir in the course there's not been a suggestion thitheir duties. in the course there's not been a suggestion thitheir duties. jci . ;:he course there's not been a suggestion thitheir duties. jci . ; viii; se of their duties. civil service always independent and we're still 48 still ploughing through the 48 should independent , it should should be independent, it should be and i think be independent and i think there's definitely the government and there's government and there's government has the right to say if they believe that when it comes to those matters of neutrality and impartiality , neutrality and impartiality, motty if they believe that they're not being upheld the way they're not being upheld the way they should be. okay, peter , they should be. okay, peter, eeverrrrrerri— they should be. okay, peter, government have— : okay, peter, government have right to do government have the right to do irer— government have the right to do iireiliei— government have the right to do that-let-respond- government have the right to do that. let- respond to - government have the right to doi that-let- respond to that. that. let peter respond to that. there's no suggestion in anything we've seen so far that bias over brexit or government policy played a part in this.

the primary driver of dominic ieeeir— the primary driver of dominic ieeeir iriewirre— the primary driver of dominic raab blowing up— the primary driver of dominic raab blowing up his career was his raab blowing up his career was iris ew— raab blowing up his career was his own behaviour— raab blowing up his career was his own behaviour and of course we eii— his own behaviour and of course we eii ireve— his own behaviour and of course we all have frustrations in the weripieee— we all have frustrations in the workplace and _ we all have frustrations in the workplace and we're all entitled to workplace and we're all entitled re give— workplace and we're all entitled to give feedback— workplace and we're all entitled to give feedback to colleagues, periiewieriy— to give feedback to colleagues, periiewieriy-ii- to give feedback to colleagues, particularly-if we- to give feedback to colleagues, particularly if we feel particularly if they if we feel iireir— particularly if they if we feel iireir veri— particularly if they if we feel their work is— particularly if they if we feel their work is not— particularly if they if we feel their work is not good enough. arre— their work is not good enough. are irere-s— their work is not good enough. are iirere-s e— their work is not good enough. and there's a difference between seyirre— and there's a difference between seyirre weiiie— and there's a difference between saying waffle and— and there's a difference between saying waffle and using inappropriate language peierriieiiy— inappropriate language potentially triggering someone, irevirre— potentially triggering someone, irevirrp ireeirir— potentially triggering someone, having health problems and siess— having health problems and stress leave— having health problems and stress leave or— having health problems and stress leave or sticking your irere— stress leave or sticking your irerre irr— stress leave or sticking your hand in their— stress leave or sticking your hand in their face. stress leave or sticking your hand in theirface. (jr/{pg hand in their face. okay. okay iiireriy— hand in their face. okay. okay utterly woeful,— hand in their face. okay. okay utterly woeful, utterly- hand in theirface. (jr/{pg utterly woeful, utterly useless . ceme— utterly woeful, utterly useless . come on. you— utterly woeful, utterly useless . come on. you know, if you're i iirirri— . come on. you know, if you're i iirirri irere-s— . come on. you know, if you're i think there's too— . come on. you know, if you're i think there's too many shrinking vieieis— think there's too many shrinking vieieis irere. — think there's too many shrinking violets here. and— think there's too many shrinking violets here. and i— think there's too many shrinking violets here. and i think that peepie— violets here. and i think that peepie peei— violets here. and i think that peepie rreee ie— violets here. and i think that people need to develop a thicker skir— people need to develop a thicker siirr. arre— people need to develop a thicker siirr. are i— people need to develop a thicker skin. and i make— people need to develop a thicker skin. and i make this point. i irrev— skin. and i make this point. i irrew irer— skin. and i make this point. i know that you're— skin. and i make this point. i know that you're affiliated with ieirewr. — know that you're affiliated with labour. _think. labour. listen, i don't think ieirewr— labour. listen, i don't think labour should— labour. listen, i don't think labour should be in the business of labour should be in the business ei severing— labour should be in the business ei eeverirre rer— labour should be in the business of covering for civil— labour should be in the business of covering for civil servants wire— of covering for civil servants wire-ire — of covering for civil servants who-be making. who may well be making peiirieeiiy— politically motivated interventions, politically motivated intei ifentions, politically motivated inteiif labour starts introducing me, if labour starts introducing reierws— me, if labour starts introducing reierws-rirey— me, if labour starts introducing reforms they might not reforms that they might not iiiet— reforms that they might not iiie. rire — reforms that they might not like, the civil— reforms that they might not like, the civil servants , then like, the civil servants, then iirei-s— like, the civil servants, then reer-s peiee— like, the civil servants, then reer-s peiep re— like, the civil servants, then that's going to be an issue as weii. — that's going to be an issue as weii. veer.— that's going to be an issue as well. yeah. okay.- that's going to be an issue as well. yeah. okay. so,- that's going to be an issue as well. j/ritgjt�* jcij

like young people, snowflakes, as shrinking violence. as you said, shrinking violence. actually dominic raab was quite clear. was more senior clear. this was more senior civil servants who've been around for a long time in fact, around for a long time in fact, around the blair days. is around since the blair days. is there something in the idea that there something in the idea that the people running the civil service were of those guys service were a lot of those guys were in by tony blair, so were put in by tony blair, so put it you both. are they put it to you both. are they still doing labour's batting you? no, i'll that on if you? no, i'll take that on if rirer-s— you? no, i'll take that on if that's-because- pi;7 no, i'll take that on if that's because rikki pi;7 no, i'll take that on if that's has because rikki pi;7 no, i'll take that on if that's has talkedise rikki pit0 no, i'll take that on if that's has talkedise rikki pit;7 no, i'll take that on if that's has talkedise rikki neave has talked so much. so. so no, because the— neave has talked so much. so. so no, because the vast,— neave has talked so much. so. so no, because the vast, vast majority of civil service roles are appointed by are not appointed by politicians. they're appointed by civil servants. i think there might be 1 or 2 exceptions in the private office. secondly, brexit is government policy . brexit is government policy. arnie and this is why i don't think it's about bias over brexit and it's not about bias between political parties. even kyiv starmer keeps giving speeches , is saying the brexit speeches, is saying the brexit question is settled. so whether you're talking about previous ministers, the current administration , which is led by administration, which is led by administration, which is led by a brexiteer prime minister or potentially a labour administration , were it to win administration, were it to win the brexit question has been

settled and we have left the eu. and i think we've got to just confront that reality and not talk over people. as we've heard this morning when they disagree with us, which is there was some work perceived as poor quality and dominic raab didn't have the personal skill set to provide feedback in the right way. so to bnng feedback in the right way. so to bring raquib in there— feedback in the right way. so to bring raquib in there now,- .. . g so to bring raquib in there now, are we ireeeiee— bring raquib in there now, are we heading towards a position, werew— we heading towards a position, though,-inability. we heading towards a position, though, inability to though, where the inability to eriiieise — though, where the inability to criticise poor— though, where the inability to criticise poor performance will ieee — criticise poor performance will ieee re — criticise poor performance will lead to government? just just ireeewiee— lead to government? just just becoming stodge? well i think rirer-s— becoming stodge? well i think was we— becoming stodge? well i think that's the risk— becoming stodge? well i think that's the risk as— becoming stodge? well i think that's the risk as i said, if you— that's the risk as i said, if yer sei— that's the risk as i said, if yer sei rrre— that's the risk as i said, if you set the threshold for irwiiyiep— you set the threshold for irwiiyiep ei— you set the threshold for bullying at such a low level reei— bullying at such a low level we reei— bullying at such a low level that that the _ bullying at such a low level that that the potential to pereiyse — that that the potential to paralyse government activity . paralyse government activity. by paralyse government activity. iy we— paralyse government activity. ey we wey. — paralyse government activity. ey we wey. i— paralyse government activity. by the way, i don't— paralyse government activity. by the way, i don't think- paralyse government activity. by the way, i don't think i've talked that much and luckily for me, i've got a thick skin or i might accuse you of bullying, but the point that but i'd make the point that ultimately the government and that former deputy that includes the former deputy prime minister, he believes prime minister, if he believes that he described it as that i think he described it as a small minority if a very small minority motty if he believes they are he believes that they are possibly with forms of possibly not happy with forms of government reform and they're being , then being obstructionist, then he's

entitled point . entitled to make that point. okay, we do actually have a full irewe— okay, we do actually have a full frame now. the— okay, we do actually have a full frame now. the definition of irwiiyiee— frame now. the definition of irwiiyiep irew— frame now. the definition of bullying from the report itself wieiri— bullying from the report itself wieiri ire— bullying from the report itself might be worth— bullying from the report itself might be worth pulling up here. it might be worth pulling up here. ii is— might be worth pulling up here. ii is we— might be worth pulling up here. it is the legitimate , reasonable it is the legitimate, reasonable eee— it is the legitimate, reasonable and constructive— it is the legitimate, reasonable and constructive criticism of a worker's performance will not ewewei— worker's performance will not ewewer ie— worker's performance will not amount to bullying. it defines irwiiyiee— amount to bullying. it defines irwiiyiep es— amount to bullying. it defines bullying as intimidating or ieswiiiee— bullying as intimidating or insulting behaviour that makes an individual— insulting behaviour that makes an individual feel uncomfortable . irieirreeeet— an individual feel uncomfortable , frightened, less— an individual feel uncomfortable , frightened, less respected , or , frightened, less respected, or put— , frightened, less respected, or per eewe. — , frightened, less respected, or per eewe. se— , frightened, less respected, or put down. so put— , frightened, less respected, or put down. so put it, put it ewieiiy— put down. so put it, put it ewieiiy peei— put down. so put it, put it quickly back to- put down. so put it, put it quickly back to you, then raqeeb by quickly back to you, then raqeeb iry reei— quickly back to you, then raqeeb by that definition,— quickly back to you, then raqeeb by that definition, it doesn't reei— by that definition, it doesn't seem that dominic robb may be pesi— seem that dominic robb may be pesi ree— seem that dominic robb may be past the threshold— seem that dominic robb may be past the threshold . �*jgerit;; past the threshold. well, i i— past the threshold. well, i mean, i think that would also be the point that there are some people have different sensitivity threshold as well. so, so i think perhaps what we need to have a discussion here, there needs to a tightening there needs to be a tightening of code and of the civil service code and more generally, there needs to be definition of that be a tighter definition of that when it comes to bullying, because is because i think that is incredibly subjective and it depends a depends on how sensitive a person is. okay. peter, final were— person is. okay. peter, final were re— person is. okay. peter, final were re yew— person is. okay. peter, final were re yew . — .. okay. peter, final word to you . word to you. independent investigation by a barrister. the barrister is not woke with

no how he voted in no idea how he voted in the referendum with idea on his referendum with no idea on his party persuasion . he's party political persuasion. he's a competent experience a skilled, competent experience lawyer and he's delivered his verdict . just because people verdict. just because people don't it, shouldn't don't like it, they shouldn't try to change the rules. okay. okay. peter edwards, dr. raqib hassan joining us hassan, thank you for joining us today. a debate. so today. a feisty debate. so ye-re— today. a feisty debate. so. you're—listening today. a feisty debate. so- you're_listening to you're watching and listening to gb you're watching and listening to err wews— you're watching and listening to gb news saturday with me. martin irewireey— gb news saturday with me. martin irewirrwp— gb news saturday with me. martin irewirrwp ee— gb news saturday with me. martin daubrup on today's— gb news saturday with me. martin daubrup on today's show. this come up on today's show. this weeieee— come up on today's show. this. weekend-anniversaries weekend marks the anniversaries of weekend marks the anniversaries ei ree— weekend marks the anniversaries ei rire iririir— weekend marks the anniversaries of the birth and— weekend marks the anniversaries of the birth and the death of wiiiiew— of the birth and the death of william shakespeare. we'll be ieeiiee— william shakespeare. we'll be looking-relevant- william shakespeare. we'll be looking relevant the bard looking at how relevant the bard reweies—weie- looking at how relevant the bard remains nato allies remains today. then nato allies ireve— remains today. then nato allies ireve eereee— remains today. then nato allies have agreed that— remains today. then nato allies have agreed that ukraine will eveeiweiiy— have agreed that ukraine will eventually become a member eeeerei— eventually become a member general secretary jens stoltenberg - general secretary jens stoltenberg told reporters that rire — stoltenberg told reporters that we we— stoltenberg told reporters that once the war in— stoltenberg told reporters that once the war in ukraine ends , once the war in ukraine ends, kyiv— once the war in ukraine ends, iyiv wwsi— once the war in ukraine ends, kyiv must have— once the war in ukraine ends, kyiv must have the protection eee— kyiv must have the protection and deterrence— kyiv must have the protection and deterrence to— kyiv must have the protection and deterrence to prevent new eiieeis— and deterrence to prevent new attacks. - next, _ and deterrence to prevent new attacks. -next, are - and deterrence to prevent new attacks. next, are we attacks. now next, are we speeiiee— attacks. now next, are we speeiiep ie— attacks. now next, are we speaking to former sun royal correspondent— speaking to former sun royal correspondent charles rea? and we-ii— correspondent charles rea? and we'll-discussing— correspondent charles rea? and we'll discussing mega we'll be discussing mega iieriie-s— we'll be discussing mega markle's letter the king, markle's letter to the king, wirere— markle's letter to the king, wirere sire— markle's letter to the king, where she raised concerns about weeeriyiee— where she raised concerns about underlying racism _ where she raised concerns about underlying racism the royal underlying racism and the royal rewiiy.— underlying racism and the royal rewiiy. eese— underlying racism and the royal family. once again . but first, family. once again. but first, ier-s— family. once again. but first, ier-s-e— family. once again. but first, iei-s-e ieei— family. once again. but first, let's-a look at- family. once again. but first, let's a look at today's let's take a look at today's weeiirer— let's take a look at today's weather with _ let's take a look at today's weather with jonathan. hello iirere. — weather with jonathan. hello there. -jonathan- weather with jonathan. hello there. weather with jonathan. hello - there. -jonathan vautrey here there. i'm jonathan vautrey here with weather update with your latest weather update from office some of us from the met office some of us

have managed to some have managed to see some sunshine but others sunshine today, but for others it sunshine today, but for others h been sunshine today, but for others it been largely cloudy and it has been largely cloudy and this setup is all due to this mixed setup is all due to low pressure that is set across the uk. these various the uk. and these various occluded fronts that are bringing rain to bringing bands of rain to different of the country . different parts of the country. this first one across northern ireland into southern scotland and northern england will continue to bring outbreaks continue to bring some outbreaks of throughout this evening of rain throughout this evening and into areas of and push its way into areas of northeast scotland as well. further outbreaks of rain throughout the night will push in southwest and move in from the southwest and move across wales and the across england and wales and the cloud. if you didn't have cloud. even if you didn't have it tend it throughout the day, will tend to during the night as to build during the night as well. blanket cloud well. so that blanket of cloud will hold temperatures up and most stay frost most of us should stay frost free, but we might dip down into low single figures in some sheltered rural spots. so a pretty cloudy start to sunday morning . the potential for some morning. the potential for some slightly heavier bursts of rain to push in across southeast england. there's some slight uncertainty in regards to its exact track. so do keep up to date with forecast. you date with the forecast. if you are the london marathon. are running the london marathon. showers filling up elsewhere and we'll see further rain pushing across northeast scotland and

that could turn over the that could turn wintry over the higher as we some higher ground as we see some colder in and feeling colder air dig in and feeling rather bitter in the strong winds developing as well. winds developing here as well. this cold air is going to push its way southwards across the rest the as head rest of the uk as we head throughout sunday evening and into . the rain continuing into monday. the rain continuing to way off the to clear its way off the southeast well . some slightly southeast as well. some slightly clearer spells developing here and there, but generally a lot of cloud around again, first thing on monday morning . some thing on monday morning. some outbreaks of rain persisting throughout the day. and again, those showers now probably turning to sleet even at some lower levels across northern scotland. the briskest winds on monday will be across the eastern coastal area where we see tight squeeze in the see this tight squeeze in the isobars. but into tuesday, there are signs that a ridge of high pressure start to build in pressure will start to build in and things down and help settle things down a touch. for all of us in that touch. but for all of us in that northerly flow of air, temperatures are going to be dropping considerably dropping down quite considerably by .

listening to gb news radio. i seei— listening to gb news radio. . good afternoon. - listening to gb news radio. good afternoon. welcome back. listening to gb news radio. good afternoorbringingie back. listening to gb news radio. good afternoorbringing you ack. i'm bethany elsey bringing you up from newsroom up to date from the gb newsroom at past 12. former deputy at half past 12. former deputy prime dominic raab has prime minister dominic raab has blamed activists within the civil service for his downfall, saying they're holding the government back. he resigned yesterday after an investigation upheld some of the bullying allegations made against him. mr raab claims a minority of those within whitehall are effectively trying to block government. he told gb news that he's very concerned that he didn't behave in a bullying way to these allegations were dismissed out of hand and i think people are watching. this of hand and i think people are watching . this would be watching. this would be surprised— watching. this would be surprised that- watching. this would be surprised that in- i g this would be surprised that in scrutinising eivii— surprised that in scrutinising civil servants— surprised that in scrutinising civil servants ,_ surprised that in scrutinising civil servants , in making sure civil servants, in making sure reei— civil servants, in making sure that millions— civil servants, in making sure that millions of— civil servants, in making sure that millions of pounds of ievpeyers— that millions of pounds of taxpayers money is not squandered— taxpayers money is not squandered and being able to pwii— squandered and being able to pwii very— squandered and being able to pull very senior— squandered and being able to pull very senior civil servants, eer— pull very senior civil servants, eei iweier— pull very senior civil servants,

not junior members of staff, up eee— not junior members of staff, up eee sey— not junior members of staff, up eee sey. ieeit— not junior members of staff, up eee sey. ieei. i— not junior members of staff, up and say, look, i don't have the iresie— and say, look, i don't have the basic information— and say, look, i don't have the basic information to decide reis— basic information to decide iiris iiree— basic information to decide iiris riree i— basic information to decide this, then i think it puts a handbrake,— this, then i think it puts a handbrake, a— this, then i think it puts a handbrake, a paralysing effect on ministers— handbrake, a paralysing effect on ministers delivering for the irriiisir— on ministers delivering for the irririsir peepie— on ministers delivering for the british people ,_ on ministers delivering for the british people , foreign british people, foreign nationals,— british people, foreign nationals, including from the up.— nationals, including from the uk, us.— nationals, including from the uk, us, france— nationals, including from the uk, us, france and china, are to be uk, us, france and china, are to ire eveeweiee— uk, us, france and china, are to be evacuated from _ uk, us, france and china, are to be evacuated from sudan as fierce— be evacuated from sudan as fierce fighting— be evacuated from sudan as fierce fighting in the country ewes— fierce fighting in the country eeies irs— fierce fighting in the country enters its second week, the sweeeese— enters its second week, the sudanese army— enters its second week, the sudanese army says it has agreed to sudanese army says it has agreed re ireip— sudanese army says it has agreed to help evacuation— sudanese army says it has agreed to help evacuation plans . to help evacuation plans. the werie— to help evacuation plans. the world health— to help evacuation plans. the world health organisation says more than 400 people have been killed and thousands more injured in the country since the violence began when government forces there are battling with a paramilitary group over control of the capital khartoum . the of the capital khartoum. the health secretary steve barclay, says he's planning to launch legal action against the royal college of nursing over planned strikes at the end of the month. industrial action is planned from the 30th of april to the 2nd of may. pat cullen, the union's general secretary, has accused the government of being desperate to silence nurses

rather than address the pay issue . and some breaking news. issue. and some breaking news. the australian entertainer barry humphries has died at the age of 89 during a seven decade career, he was best known for his alter egos , including dame edna egos, including dame edna everage and sir les patterson. local media in australia say he died in hospital surrounded by his family . you're up to date on his family. you're up to date on gb news now it's back to . gb news now it's back to. martin thank you, bethany. welcome gb news now it's back to. martin thank newsiethany. welcome gb news now it's back to. martin thank news there iy. welcome gb news now it's back to. martin thank news there about come gb news now it's back to. martin thank news there about barry back. sad news there about barry humphries.— back. sad news there about barry humphries. rest— back. sad news there about barry humphries. rest you're humphries. rest in peace. you're weieiriee—ie- humphries. rest in peace. you're wereiriee—ie ee- humphries. rest in peace. you're watching to gb news watching or listening to gb news seiwreey— watching or listening to gb news seiwreey wire— watching or listening to gb news saturday with me,— watching or listening to gb news saturday with me, martin daubney on saturday with me, martin daubney ee—eee— saturday with me, martin daubney ee—eee ee- saturday with me, martin daubney ee—eee ee yewrl on your tv, online and on your eieiiei— on your tv, online and on your eipiiei reeie— on your tv, online and on your eipiiei reeie .— on your tv, online and on your digital radio . well, now is the digital radio. well, now is the were— digital radio. well, now is the wierer ei— digital radio. well, now is the winter of our— digital radio. well, now is the winter of our discontent. all rrre— winter of our discontent. all we werie-s— winter of our discontent. all the world's a— winter of our discontent. all the world's a stage, and we are all the world's a stage, and we are eii wereiy— the world's a stage, and we are all merely players. _ the world's a stage, and we are all merely players. a rose by

any— all merely players. a rose by eey eiirer— all merely players. a rose by any other name— all merely players. a rose by any other name would smell as sweei— any other name would smell as sweei ves— any other name would smell as sweei yes we— any other name would smell as sweet. yes we all— any other name would smell as sweet. yes we all remember some iiees— sweet. yes we all remember some iiees irew — sweet. yes we all remember some lines from shakespeare . but is lilies from shakespeare. but is the lines from shakespeare. but is we irewi— lines from shakespeare. but is the bowl still— lines from shakespeare. but is the bowl still relevant in 2023? weii— the bowl still relevant in 2023? weii reis— the bowl still relevant in 2023? well, this weekend marks the anniversaries— well, this weekend marks the anniversaries of— well, this weekend marks the anniversaries of his birth and eeeiir. — anniversaries of his birth and eeeiir. irere— anniversaries of his birth and death. more than 400 years ago. so death. more than 400 years ago. se is— death. more than 400 years ago. se is we— death. more than 400 years ago. se is we ereei— death. more than 400 years ago. so is the great man— death. more than 400 years ago. so is the great man still reieveei— so is the great man still relevant or— so is the great man still relevant or is— so is the great man still relevant or is he a relic now? wesiwiesier— relevant or is he a relic now? westminster reporter jack carson reperis— westminster reporter jack carson reperis irew — westminster reporter jack carson reports from stratford upon avon . eere— reports from stratford upon avon . eere ie— reports from stratford upon avon . born in 1564,— reports from stratford upon avon . born in 1564, william- . born in 1564, william shakespeare was part of the definition of british heritage . definition of british heritage. this weekend marks whatdwould this weekend marks what would ireve— this weekend marks what would ireve ireee— this weekend marks what would have been the— this weekend marks what would have been the birthday of the wire— have been the birthday of the man who changed the english ieepweee— man who changed the english ieepwepe eee— man who changed the english language and theatre forever irere.— language and theatre forever here, nicknamed bard by his here, nicknamed the bard by his irieees— here, nicknamed the bard by his friends because— here, nicknamed the bard by his friends because of— here, nicknamed the bard by his friends because of his like for wriiiee— friends because of his like for wririep peews— friends because of his like for writing poems, shakespeare wrote 38 writing poems, shakespeare wrote ss pieys— writing poems, shakespeare wrote ss pieys. iwe — writing poems, shakespeare wrote 38 plays, two narrative poems eee— 38 plays, two narrative poems eee ise— 38 plays, two narrative poems and 154 sonnets. _ 38 plays, two narrative poems and 154 sonnets. ; and 154 sonnets. but all of it started in stratford upon avon , started in stratford upon avon, now more than 400 years on, shakespeare , beer's work has shakespeare, beer's work has what appears to be an everlasting legacy. director of knowledge and engagement at the shakespeare birthplace trust, professor charlotte scott says the playwright appealed to human value. shakespeare is interested in value. shakespeare is interested ie we— value. shakespeare is interested ie we very— value. shakespeare is interested

in two very central— shakespeare is interested in two very central markers of heme— in two very central markers of irwwee veiwe— in two very central markers of irwwee veiwe .— in two very central markers of human value . one is power and human value. one is power and the human value. one is power and we eiirer— human value. one is power and we eiirer is— human value. one is power and the other is choice— human value. one is power and the other is choice and power. eee— the other is choice and power. eee eireiee— the other is choice and power. and choice is— the other is choice and power. and choice is central to the way his characters— and choice is central to the way his characters navigate their weries. — his characters navigate their weries. eee— his characters navigate their worlds. and those are deeply de weiversei— worlds. and those are deeply de universal and— worlds. and those are deeply de universal and resonant themes for universal and resonant themes ier everyireey. — universal and resonant themes for everybody. also has, as for everybody. he also has, as we know,— for everybody. he also has, as we know, because— for everybody. he also has, as we know, because of the way in view— we know, because of the way in wirieir iris— we know, because of the way in which his words— we know, because of the way in which his words have fallen into the which his words have fallen into rire ieeiisir— which his words have fallen into the english language, an extraordinary— the english language, an extraordinary ability to touch on extraordinary ability to touch err-eweieei- extraordinary ability to touch err-eweieei .- extraordinary ability to touch on-emotion , on- extraordinary ability to touch on emotion , on thought, on human emotion, on thought, eee— on human emotion, on thought, eee ee— on human emotion, on thought, eee ee ree— on human emotion, on thought, and on the processes of both iiie— and on the processes of both iiie eee— and on the processes of both life and death— and on the processes of both life and death in— and on the processes of both life and death in ways that are peweriwiiy— life and death in ways that are powerfully evocative and eiieerive— powerfully evocative and effective. _ powerfully evocative and effective . to- powerfully evocative and effective. powerfully evocative and effective . effective. to be or not to be, thatis effective. to be or not to be, that is the question. and while sireiespeere— that is the question. and while shakespeare himself- : and while shakespeare himself might be eeeiieee— shakespeare himself might be eeeiieee ie— shakespeare himself might be confined to history , his work confined to history, his work siiii— confined to history, his work sriii iives— confined to history, his work still lives on— confined to history, his work still lives on in— confined to history, his work still lives on in the language we speei— still lives on in the language we speak today. _ still lives on in the language we speak today. what's done is eewe— we speak today. what's done is eeee ewei— we speak today. what's done is eeee crwei ie— we speak today. what's done is done cruel to be— we speak today. what's done is done cruel to be kind too and wise— done cruel to be kind too and wweir ei— done cruel to be kind too and wweir ei e— done cruel to be kind too and much of a good— done cruel to be kind too and much of a good thing are all pirreses— much of a good thing are all pirreses we— much of a good thing are all phrases we still— much of a good thing are all phrases we still use. but even iireweir— phrases we still use. but even rireweir ew— phrases we still use. but even though our english is full of though our engliin is full of the though our english is full of we eere-s— though our english is full of the bard's creative ones, should seeiespeere— the bard's creative ones, should shakespeare still— the bard's creative ones, should shakespeare still be taught in seireeise — shakespeare still be taught in schools? journalist- shakespeare still be taught in schools? gj"r: schools? journalist and author rebecca reid says the curriculum should diversified . and part should be diversified. and part of should be diversified. and part ei-erewweei— should be diversified. and part of-argument for— should be diversified. and part of-argument for teaching. of the argument for teaching iess— of the argument for teaching less shakespeare is that less shakespeare is always that we weer— less shakespeare is always that we want. diversify— less shakespeare is always that we want diversify the canon we want to diversify the canon

of we want to diversify the canon er-rirer— we want to diversify the canon ei-iirei peepie- we want to diversify the canon of-that people are. of literature that people are taught— of literature that people are rewpei eee— of literature that people are taught, and there are of taught, and there are plenty of irriiiieert— taught, and there are plenty of brilliant, brilliant— taught, and there are plenty of brilliant, brilliant writers who are brilliant, brilliant writers who eei— brilliant, brilliant writers who eei mare,— brilliant, brilliant writers who are not male, not— brilliant, brilliant writers who are not male, not white and not sireieirit— are not male, not white and not sireieiri. eii— are not male, not white and not straight, all of— are not male, not white and not straight, all of those things. eee— straight, all of those things. eee ii-s— straight, all of those things. and it's really— straight, all of those things. and it's really important that eeie— and it's really important that eirie re— and it's really important that we're able to read literature reei— we're able to read literature we es— we're able to read literature that was written _ we're able to read literature that was written by people who are different— that was written by people who are different from _ that was written by people who are different from us. but it's eise— are different from us. but it's eise reeiiy— are different from us. but it's also really helpful to read iiiereiwre— also really helpful to read literature—by literature that's written by peepie— literature that's written by. peepie—eiweys people like us. so i've always periiewieriy— people like us. so i've always particularly enjoyed the irreeies.— particularly enjoyed the brontes. connect particularly enjoyed the- brontes. _connect with brontes. i really connect with we— brontes. i really connect with ire-eeiee— brontes. i really connect with rire-ireiee e- brontes. i really connect with the being a female the idea of being a female wriier— the idea of being a female wriierle— the idea of being a female writer-a female- the idea of being a female writer a female writer and it writer as a female writer and it resi— writer as a female writer and it iwsi ieeis— writer as a female writer and it just feels wrong— writer as a female writer and it just feels wrong that that in a seeieiy— just feels wrong that that in a seeiery wirere — just feels wrong that that in a society where we— just feels wrong that that in a society where we have a very, yew— society where we have a very, yew ieewt — society where we have a very, you know, obviously 5050 gender spiii— you know, obviously 5050 gender spiii eee— you know, obviously 5050 gender spiii eee iiee— you know, obviously 5050 gender split and then also— you know, obviously 5050 gender split and then also we have a multi—religious_ split and then also we have a multi—religious ,_ split and then also we have a multi—religious , multiethnic multi—religious, multiethnic seeieiy— multi—religious, multiethnic seeieiy. ii— multi—religious, multiethnic society. it seems wrong that the eweiewwwi — society. it seems wrong that the curriculum doesn't— society. it seems wrong that the curriculum doesn't reflect that at curriculum doesn't reflect that e eii— curriculum doesn't reflect that e eii ee— curriculum doesn't reflect that e eii ee ree— curriculum doesn't reflect that at all on the streets of stratford _ at all on the streets of stratford ,_ at all on the streets of stratford , what the locals and stratford, what the locals and iewrisis— stratford, what the locals and tourists think— stratford, what the locals and tourists think back in australia,— tourists think back in australia, in- tourists think back in australia, in sydney, i'm srweyiep— australia, in sydney, i'm studying shakespeare. .. studying shakespeare. i'm in my last studying shakespeare. i'm in my iesi yeer— studying shakespeare. i'm in my iesi yeer er— studying shakespeare. i'm in my last year of school at the moment, just the way he changed the and english the language and english language and the way we communicate is really, really special and for education surrounding that, i think that's important to continue in the future. there's something quite

poetic about it . i certainly poetic about it. i certainly learnt about him in school and i'd learnt to appreciate him . i'd learnt to appreciate him. he taught loads of slang back in the he taught loads of slang back in we eey— he taught loads of slang back in we eey eee— he taught loads of slang back in we eey eee i— he taught loads of slang back in the day and i love— he taught loads of slang back in the day and i love that. like eei— the day and i love that. like now we've got so— the day and i love that. like now we've got so many of our weres— now we've got so many of our weres irew — now we've got so many of our words from him.— now we've got so many of our words from him. so i think, yeeirt— words from him. so i think, yeeir. i— words from him. so i think, yeee. i iiriei— words from him. so i think, yeah, i think we- words from him. so i think, yeah, i think we should learn eirewi— yeah, i think we should learn eirewi reei— yeah, i think we should learn about that-see- yeah, i think we should learn about that see how language about that and see how language has about that and see how language ires—irew - about that and see how language ires—irew ree- has progressed out from the siwii— has progressed out from the skull-hamlet- has progressed out from thei skull-hamletlthe skull grasping hamlet to the rwiiriess— skull grasping hamlet to the ruthless macbeth , the ruthless lady macbeth, the iwprier— ruthless lady macbeth, the imprint shakespeare on our imprint of shakespeare on our ireriieee— imprint of shakespeare on our heritage shows— imprint of shakespeare on our heritage shows no sign of reeiee. — heritage shows no sign of reeiep. aii— heritage shows no sign of fading. all the- heritage shows no sign of fading. : heritage shows no sign of- fading. all the world's a stage. and he continues to stand. and there he continues to stand. jack carson gb news stratford super erg. well, i had a bit of a super erg. well, i had a bit of e sireiy— super erg. well, i had a bit of a shaky relationship— ?; well, i had a bit of a shaky relationship with 3; well, i had a bit of a shaky relationship with with sireiy— a shaky relationship with with sireiy wyseir— a shaky relationship with with sireiy wyseii .— a shaky relationship with with sireiy wyseii . i— a shaky relationship with with shaky myself . i had to do 12th shaky myself. i had to do 12th wieiri— shaky myself. i had to do 12th wieiri ier— shaky myself. i had to do 12th wiper ier wy— shaky myself. i had to do 12th night for my o—level and on a seireei— night for my o—level and on a seireei wip— night for my o—level and on a seireei irip. e— night for my o—level and on a school trip, a sixth— night for my o—level and on a school trip, a sixth form trip to school trip, a sixth form trip re ieeeee— school trip, a sixth form trip to london to— school trip, a sixth form trip to london to watch a performance. i must confess i eweiee— performance. i must confess i eweiee err— performance. i must confess i bunked off and— performance. i must confess i bunked off and went the pub bunked off and went to the pub eeywey. — bunked off and went to the pub eeywey. -eei— bunked off and went to the pub eeywey. -eei ee— bunked off and went to the pub eeywey-eei eelie- bunked off and went to the pub anyway. get an in my anyway. i did get an a in my exam, solworked- anyway. i did get an a in my exam, so worked out in the exam, so it worked out in the ewe.— exam, so it worked out in the end-lyou've_ exam, so it worked out in the end. you've getting in end. so you've been getting in reuse—repe- end. so you've been getting in touch—topic of- end. so you've been getting in touch _topic of the. touch on our big topic of the eey. — touch on our big topic of the eey. -ei— touch on our big topic of the day. _of emails,- touch on our big topic of the day. _of emails, of- touch on our big topic of the day. of emails, of course. day. loads of emails, of course. irewieie— day. loads of emails, of course. dominic raab's_ day. loads of emails, of course. dominic raab's resignation. heres— dominic raab's resignation. were-s-ieeei- dominic raab's resignation. here's-janet. i. dominic raab's resignation.- here's-janet. i believe here's one from janet. i believe irewieie— here's one from janet. i believe eewiee-eeiee- dominic raab was doing a very eiiiiewii— dominic raab was doing a very eiiiiewii ieir— dominic raab was doing a very difficult job with— dominic raab was doing a very difficult job with civil difficult job with senior civil serveeis— difficult job with senior civil servants who _ difficult job with senior civil

servants who like to be servants who don't like to be ewesiieeee. — servants who don't like to be questioned. -sorry- servants who don't like to be questioned. sorry to see questioned. i'm sorry to see reei— questioned. i'm sorry to see iireilires— questioned. i'm sorry to see that has resigned, thinks that he has resigned, thinks eivii— that he has resigned, thinks civil service— that he has resigned, thinks civil service-a— that he has resigned, thinks civil service a grinding old civil service is a grinding old weeiriee— civil service is a grinding old machine needing a shake—up. a lot machine needing a shake—up. a ier-peepie— machine needing a shake—up. a ierlpeepie eeiee— machine needing a shake—up. a lot people agree with that, lot of people agree with that, peer.— lot of people agree with that, reeer. a— lot of people agree with that, reeer. a ier— lot of people agree with that, janet. a lot of— lot of people agree with that, janet. a lot of people believe reei— janet. a lot of people believe iirei-sysiew- janet. a lot of people believe that system that's that it's the system that's weipirree— that it's the system that's weighted ministers, weighted against ministers, periiewieriy— weighted against ministers, particularly know peter particularly. i know that peter ieweres— particularly. i know that peter edwards denied— particularly. i know that peter edwards denied this earlier, but irere— edwards denied this earlier, but iirere is— edwards denied this earlier, but iirere is e— edwards denied this earlier, but there is a feeling— edwards denied this earlier, but there is a feeling that it's iiee— there is a feeling that it's wee-ris- there is a feeling that it's kind it's against kind of woke. it's against iiees— kind of woke. it's against reieps iiie— kind of woke. it's against things like brexit deportation on things like brexit deportation ee irereer— things like brexit deportation on border control, becoming sewer— on border control, becoming seiier eee— on border control, becoming softer and making the job harder for softer and making the job harder ier wieisiers— softer and making the job harder for ministers with— softer and making the job harder for ministers with that kind of a for ministers with that kind of e wieeseit— for ministers with that kind of ewieesei. ii— for ministers with that kind of a mindset, it is— for ministers with that kind of a mindset, it is becoming peiirieisee— a mindset, it is becoming politicised a— a mindset, it is becoming politicised a lot of people are seyiee— politicised a lot of people are seyiee eeie— politicised a lot of people are saying onto margaret who says, i we— saying onto margaret who says, i veie ie— saying onto margaret who says, i veie re weie— saying onto margaret who says, i vote to make dominic raab, prime iiieisier— vote to make dominic raab, prime iiieisier .— vote to make dominic raab, prime iiieisier . wow,— vote to make dominic raab, prime minister . wow, we— vote to make dominic raab, prime minister . wow, we need a good minister. wow, we need a good sireee— minister. wow, we need a good sweep ieeeer— minister. wow, we need a good strong leader who— minister. wow, we need a good strong leader who takes no nonsense from _ strong leader who takes no nonsense from the civil service wire— nonsense from the civil service wire ee— nonsense from the civil service wire ree— nonsense from the civil service wire iee iie— nonsense from the civil service who are too big for— nonsense from the civil service who are too big for their boots. so who are too big for their boots. se eeeiirer— who are too big for their boots. so another point— who are too big for their boots. so another point there, iierpereit— so another point there, margaret, agreeing that the tail is eew— margaret, agreeing that the tail is weppiep— margaret, agreeing that the tail is now wagging the dog , the blob is now wagging the dog, the blob is now wagging the dog, the blob is ie— is now wagging the dog, the blob is ie eeerrei— is now wagging the dog, the blob is in control and— is now wagging the dog, the blob is in control and preventing wieisrers— is in control and preventing ministers getting their job eewe— ministers getting their job done, particularly about areas of done, particularly about areas ei eeiieeei— done, particularly about areas of national sovereignty and eeieeee.— of national sovereignty and defence. this— of national sovereignty and defence. this all came to a weed.— defence. this all came to a ireee. ei— defence. this all came to a head, of course,— defence. this all came to a head, of course, about gibraltar,— head, of course, about gibraltar, about the spanish erwy— gibraltar, about the spanish erwy eeiee— gibraltar, about the spanish army being allowed onto british soil army being allowed onto british seii .— army being allowed onto british soil . alastair— army being allowed onto british soil . alastair says— army being allowed onto british soil . alastair says sacked the

soil. alastair says sacked the eivii— soil. alastair says sacked the civil servants— soil. alastair says sacked the civil servants were just a bunch of civil servants were just a bunch ei reweieiee— civil servants were just a bunch of remaining lefties and reiesieie— of remaining lefties and reinstate dominic raab. the eivii— reinstate dominic raab. the civil servants— reinstate dominic raab. the civil servants are all eppeieiees- civil servants are all appointees of blair and brown eee— appointees of blair and brown eee sirewie— appointees of blair and brown and should have— appointees of blair and brown and should have been sacked veers— and should have been sacked yeers eee— and should have been sacked yeers eee .— and should have been sacked years ago . alyssa, i wish you'd years ago. alyssa, i wish you'd be years ago. alyssa, i wish you'd ire were— years ago. alyssa, i wish you'd be more clear— years ago. alyssa, i wish you'd be more clear with— years ago. alyssa, i wish you'd be more clear with your thoughts and be more clear with your thoughts eee speei— be more clear with your thoughts eee speei yew— be more clear with your thoughts and speak your mind. abba's say eivii— and speak your mind. abba's say civil servants— and speak your mind. abba's say civil servants are— and speak your mind. abba's say civil servants are in— and speak your mind. abba's say civil servants are in charge of rrre— civil servants are in charge of the government.— civil servants are in charge of the government. one by one they get the government. one by one they eei iie— the government. one by one they eei rie ei— the government. one by one they pei rie ei ree— the government. one by one they get rid of the ministers that weer— get rid of the ministers that weer ie— get rid of the ministers that weer re ee— get rid of the ministers that want to do the— get rid of the ministers that want to do the right thing. they got want to do the right thing. they eei iie— want to do the right thing. they eei rie ei— want to do the right thing. they got rid of priti_ want to do the right thing. they got rid of priti patel and now it's got rid of priti patel and now ir-s-weii— got rid of priti patel and now ii-s-weii e— got rid of priti patel and now it's-well, a lot- got rid of priti patel and now it's-well, a lot of- got rid of priti patel and now it's well, a lot of people it's rob. well, a lot of people wewie— it's rob. well, a lot of people wewie eeiee— it's rob. well, a lot of people would agree with— it's rob. well, a lot of people would agree with one. abbas would agree with that one. abbas eeei— would agree with that one. abbas weer-se— would agree with that one. abbas great-so-those- would agree with that one. abbas great so those views would agree with that one. abbas great in so those views would agree with that one. abbas great in and» those views would agree with that one. abbas great in and please hose views would agree with that one. abbas great in and please 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here on gb news the people's cireeeei.— here on gb news the people's channel. britain— here on gb news the people's channel. britain is watching . channel. britain is watching. eee— channel. britain is watching. eee weiewe— channel. britain is watching. and welcome back. - channel. britain is watching. and welcome back. you're watching and listening to gb news saturday with me, martin daubney on your tv online and your digital radio . next story, your digital radio. next story, all nato allies have agreed that ukraine will eventually become a member. those are the words of general secretary jens stoltze erg speaking yesterday morning ahead of a meeting of the ukraine defence contact group. he also told reporters that once the war in ukraine ends , kyiv the war in ukraine ends, kyiv must have the deterrence to prevent new attacks . well, join prevent new attacks. well, join me now to discuss this is former senior military intelligence offer philip ingham ingram obe

philip , very concerning because philip, very concerning because it doesn't matter where you stand on who's right and who's wrong since the days of gorbachev, people have been saying expanding nato is a bit of a red rag to russia. well the russians said is red rag, but you know, nato doesn't go out to expand. nato doesn't advertise and expand. nato doesn't advertise eee sey— expand. nato doesn't advertise eee sey. eey.— expand. nato doesn't advertise and say, hey, come— : nato doesn't advertise and say, hey, come and join us. we and say, hey, come and join us. we weer— and say, hey, come and join us. we weei ie— and say, hey, come and join us. we weei re eei— and say, hey, come and join us. we want to get bigger- and say, hey, come and join us. we want to get bigger and- and say, hey, come and join us. we want to get bigger and try and push russia into a smaller a smaller area. people have to apply— smaller area. people have to apply to_ smaller area. people have to eppiy re ieie— smaller area. people have to apply to join nato.- gjiitgj people have to apply to join nato. and there's apply to join nato. and there's e very— apply to join nato. and there's every eisiieei— apply to join nato. and there's a very distinct process that's going— a very distinct process that's going eweree— a very distinct process that's going rerewpir . — a very distinct process that's going through . 'r: a very distinct process that's going through . ' r: going through. and the important word in jens stoltenberg's comment was eventually, eventually arnie. and that's only eventually arnie. and that's eeiy ewer— eventually arnie. and that's only after the _ it and that's only after the fighting in eweiee— only after the fighting in ukraine has— only after the fighting in ukraine has stopped . ukraine has stopped. okay. but it's ukraine has stopped. okay. but its reir— ukraine has stopped. okay. but we we re— ukraine has stopped. okay. but it's fair to say , though, that it's fair to say, though, that since those early days , the since those early days, the guarantee of not one inch eastward was given to placate gorbachev. and it's been a consistent thread of not doing that to kind of try and keep a form of peace. okay. putin broke that trust. is that what this is

about? this is an exceptional time and therefore it demands exceptional circumstances and response . well, you know, response. well, you know, starting to individual countries . and i think the proof of the pudding is in what's happening in finland and sweden wanted to remain staunchly neutral because of the relationship that they had with russia and the history that they had with russia. but they have clearly that they had with russia. but they have-clearly decided| they have now clearly decided reei— they have now clearly decided we is— they have now clearly decided that it's much— they have now clearly decided that it's much better that they eeie— that it's much better that they ieie—eiiieeee- that it's much better that they join—alliance so. join a defensive alliance so reei— join a defensive alliance so we iirey— join a defensive alliance so that they can— join a defensive alliance so that they can work together to prereei— that they can work together to protect against— that they can work together to protect against a— that they can work together to protect against a bully boy who eeese-i— protect against a bully boy who eeese-i eere— protect against a bully boy who doesn't care about— protect against a bully boy who doesn't care about the international- doesn't care about the international rules based seeieiy— international rules based seeieiy er— international rules based society or international boundaries— society or international boundaries or anything else . and boundaries or anything else. and if boundaries or anything else. and i rirey-ve— boundaries or anything else. and ii reey-ve weee— boundaries or anything else. and if they've made that sovereign eeeisiee— if they've made that sovereign decision that— if they've made that sovereign decision that that's in their eesr— decision that that's in their best interests,— decision that that's in their best interests, then nato will peepie— best interests, then nato will once people prove that they can weer— once people prove that they can weer rire — once people prove that they can meet the standards , and those meet the standards, and those are meet the standards, and those peiirieei— meet the standards, and those are political standards as well as are political standards as well es wiiiiery— are political standards as well as military standards will then eiiew— as military standards will then eiiew reew— as military standards will then allow them in.— as military standards will then allow them in. but philip , do allow them in. but philip, do you— allow them in. but philip, do yew iiriei— allow them in. but philip, do you think that— allow them in. but philip, do you think that this will allow eerie— you think that this will allow eerie eee— you think that this will allow putin and domestically at least to putin and domestically at least re sey— putin and domestically at least re sey. i— putin and domestically at least re sey. i reie— putin and domestically at least to say, i told you— putin and domestically at least to say, i told you so, the west are warmongers_ to say, i told you so, the west are warmongers ,_ to say, i told you so, the west are warmongers , they're going to are warmongers, they're going to be are warmongers, they're going to ire eewpiee— are warmongers, they're going to ire eewpiep ee— are warmongers, they're going to be camping on our— are warmongers, they're going to be camping on our border? �*jgvj ;; be camping on our border? will it be camping on our border? will ii eeieeiiy— be camping on our border? will it actually help— be camping on our border? will it actually help putin domestically? well i think

finland joining has helped putin domestically and he's using that. i think it's scaring him, you— that. i think it's scaring him, yew ieewt— that. i think it's scaring him, you know, because- i think it's scaring him, you know, because his strategic eiw— you know, because his strategic eiw ei— you know, because his strategic aim of invading— you know, because his strategic aim of invading ukraine was to siep— aim of invading ukraine was to siep wire— aim of invading ukraine was to stop nato expansion, to try and seei— stop nato expansion, to try and seed e— stop nato expansion, to try and seed e eieer— stop nato expansion, to try and send a clear message to the west to send a clear message to the west re eei— send a clear message to the west re eei expeee— send a clear message to the west to not expand any— send a clear message to the west to not expand any further. ' r: to not expand any further. and ees— to not expand any further. and he's stimulated— to not expand any further. and he's stimulated exactly the opposite. ukraine coming in. i ririei— opposite. ukraine coming in. i iiriei ree— opposite. ukraine coming in. i think the timing— opposite. ukraine coming in. i think the timing of— ukraine coming in. i think the timing of this peiirieeiiyt— think the timing of this politically, just before we're going— politically, just before we're going re — politically, just before we're going re per— politically, just before we're going to get any ukrainian spriee— going to get any ukrainian spring offensive going in and everyreiee— spring offensive going in and everything else— spring offensive going in and everything else is critical and it everything else is critical and ii viii— everything else is critical and ii wiii per— everything else is critical and it will put additional pressure on it will put additional pressure ee vieeiwir— it will put additional pressure on vladimir putin. he's under ieereesiee— on vladimir putin. he's under increasing pressure at home. reis— increasing pressure at home. iiris wiii— increasing pressure at home. this will add— increasing pressure at home. this will add to— increasing pressure at home. this will add to that, he's eeiee— this will add to that, he's under massive— this will add to that, he's under massive pressure internationally. and this will eee— internationally. and this will eee ie— internationally. and this will eee re reei— internationally. and this will add to that even further. and i eee-i— add to that even further. and i eee-i iiriei— add to that even further. and i don't think he— add to that even further. and i don't think he knows where to is— don't think he knows where to is i— don't think he knows where to move. is it all— don't think he knows where to move. is it all people being siiperiy— move. is it all people being slightly scaremongering when iirey-re— slightly scaremongering when iirey-re say/ingr— slightly scaremongering when they're saying, you know, this is eerweiiy— they're saying, you know, this is actually moving as nearer to eeeireeieiiee— is actually moving as nearer to confrontation ? _ is actually moving as nearer to confrontation ? ”cc confrontation? the red alert as heightened could this even be putting us a step nearer towards all out war with russia ? i think all out war with russia? i think you could all out war with russia? i think yew eerie erewe— all out war with russia? i think you could argue that— 3 g7 i think you could argue that anything reei— you could argue that anything we we— you could argue that anything we we ee— you could argue that anything that we do is— you could argue that anything that we do is putting a step nearer. we are— that we do is putting a step nearer. we are supplying huge eweeis— nearer. we are supplying huge eweeis ei— nearer. we are supplying huge

amounts of arms— nearer. we are supplying huge amounts of arms and ammunition into amounts of arms and ammunition ieie rrre— amounts of arms and ammunition into the ukrainians— amounts of arms and ammunition into the ukrainians. amounts of arms and ammunition into the ukrainians . we're into the ukrainians. we're eeipiee— into the ukrainians. we're ireipiep ree— into the ukrainians. we're helping the ukrainians change reew— helping the ukrainians change irew priweriiy— helping the ukrainians change from primarily being equipped wire— from primarily being equipped wiiir eii— from primarily being equipped with old soviet— from primarily being equipped with old soviet style equipment to with old soviet style equipment re eew— with old soviet style equipment re eeiee— with old soviet style equipment to now being equipped with more weeere— to now being equipped with more modern western— to now being equipped with more modern western equipment. and iirey-re— modern western equipment. and iirey-re eeiee— modern western equipment. and they're doing that— modern western equipment. and they're doing that whilst iirey-ret— they're doing that whilst reey-re. yew — they're doing that whilst they're, you know, fighting a erer-er— they're, you know, fighting a major conflict _ they're, you know, fighting a major conflict ._ they're, you know, fighting a major conflict . that is that is major conflict. that is that is a major conflict. that is that is e-pieee. — major conflict. that is that is a-piece. that's- major conflict. that is that is a-piece. that's in- major conflict. that is that is a piece. that's in itself a huge piece. that's in itself wiii— a huge piece. that's in itself wiiileeeweir— a huge piece. that's in itself will-enough to- a huge piece. that's in itself will enough to move us one will be enough to move us one srep— will be enough to move us one srep ieriirer— will be enough to move us one step further. but— will be enough to move us one step further. but at the end of the step further. but at the end of we eey.— step further. but at the end of we eey. ii-s— step further. but at the end of the day, it's that— step further. but at the end of the day, it's that balancing eeeisiee.— the day, it's that balancing decision. and— the day, it's that balancing decision. and it's interesting reei— decision. and it's interesting iirei eii— decision. and it's interesting that all nato— decision. and it's interesting that all nato members have eereee— that all nato members have epreeeliiris— that all nato members have epreeeliiris .— that all nato members have agreed lthis ..we - that all nato members have. agreed lthis ..we - do agreed to this. if we don't do reis— agreed to this. if we don't do we ,— agreed to this. if we don't do we . iiee— agreed to this. if we don't do this , then the— agreed to this. if we don't do this , then the balance that the this, then the balance that the peiirieiee— this, then the balance that the politician have— this, then the balance that the politician have made is that eerie— politician have made is that eerie is— politician have made is that putin is likely— politician have made is that putin is likely to continue on his eppressive— putin is likely to continue on his aggressive stance and try eee— his aggressive stance and try eee ieie— his aggressive stance and try and take over— his aggressive stance and try and take over more territory and eesieiriiise— and take over more territory and destabilise more— and take over more territory and destabilise more parts of the weed.— destabilise more parts of the werie. eee— destabilise more parts of the world. and that's unacceptable. but world. and that's unacceptable. ewi pun..— world. and that's unacceptable. ewi pnpnp, ie— world. and that's unacceptable. but philip, in terms of the srrerepy— but philip, in terms of the sireiepy ei— but philip, in terms of the strategy of this, the optics of reis— strategy of this, the optics of iiris reis— strategy of this, the optics of iiris we is— strategy of this, the optics of this, this is this— strategy of this, the optics of this, this is this could ostensibly— this, this is this could ostensibly now this, this is this could- ostensibly- now america this, this is this could— ostensibly-now america the ostensibly allow now america the wages— ostensibly allow now america the irieeesr were— ostensibly allow now america the biggest nato superpower, to eiieeriveiy— biggest nato superpower, to effectively park— biggest nato superpower, to effectively park its tanks on we— effectively park its tanks on the ukrainian— effectively park its tanks on the ukrainian russian border. sereiy— the ukrainian russian border. sereiy wee-s— the ukrainian russian border. surely that's got— the ukrainian russian border. surely that's got to _ the ukrainian russian border. surely that's got to make us feel a bit concerned and well , feel a bit concerned and well, not really. you know, this is

eeiy— not really. you know, this is eeiy ewer— not really. you know, this is only after the _ ”ritg;;g you know, this is only after the conflict is iieisiree— only after the conflict is finished and— only after the conflict is finished and actually, you know, it finished and actually, you know, i wewie— finished and actually, you know, it would allow— finished and actually, you know, it would allow ukraine to have the it would allow ukraine to have we seewriiy— it would allow ukraine to have the security guarantees and wherewithal— the security guarantees and wherewithal to _ the security guarantees and wherewithal to be able to reirwiie— wherewithal to be able to rebuild from _ wherewithal to be able to rebuild from the absolute destruction _ rebuild from the absolute destruction that the russians ireve — destruction that the russians ireve per— destruction that the russians have put certainly in the in the eesi— have put certainly in the in the eesi eee— have put certainly in the in the eesi eee ier— have put certainly in the in the east and for the— have put certainly in the in the east and for the international eewwweiiy— east and for the international eewwweiiy ie— east and for the international community to have the confidence that community to have the confidence we we— community to have the confidence we we eeweiry— community to have the confidence that the country is— community to have the confidence that the country is secure eeeiee— that the country is secure eeewpe reei— that the country is secure enough that if— that the country is secure enough that if they invested in the enough that if they invested in ire-eweiee- enough that if they invested in the-ukraine and- the rebuild of ukraine and eiiewee— the rebuild of ukraine and allowed ukraine to rebuild irseir— allowed ukraine to rebuild itself quickly,— allowed ukraine to rebuild itself quickly, that's not going to itself quickly, that's not going re ire— itself quickly, that's not going to be destroyed— itself quickly, that's not going to be destroyed again by the iewssiees— to be destroyed again by the russians coming across the irereer. — russians coming across the irereer. -ireve- russians coming across the border. have make russians coming across the- border.-have.make sure border. so we have to make sure reei— border. so we have to make sure that-investment— border. so we have to make sure that investment we're that the investment we're perriee— that the investment we're putting militarily at the putting in militarily at the weweer— moment, the investment that will sewe-reprie— moment, the investment that will come rebuild ukraine moment, the investment that will come is rebuild ukraine moment, the investment that will come is properly ukraine moment, the investment that will come is properly protected. quickly is properly protected. eee— quickly is properly protected. and-important- quickly is properly protected. and important that the and that's important that the international— and that's important that the international does and that's important that the . international—does so international community does so . eei— international community does so . eeilierws— international community does so . but-terms of— international community does so . but-terms of the- international community does so . but-terms of the optics- international community does so . but in terms of the optics of this, i mean, how, for example, would america it china would america like it if china did deal with mexico and they did a deal with mexico and they and they deployed forces on the border there because , i mean, border there because, i mean, that's that's what putin that's what that's what putin will see this as, won't he? he will see this as, won't he? he will see this as, won't he? he will see this as american expansionism parking on the border. and, you know, surely we i know you've been very diplomatic here, philip, but surely feels like it's surely that feels like it's moving us into a more precarious

position terms future position in terms of future world peace . oh, he'll it world peace. oh, he'll spin it iiie— world peace. oh, he'll spin it iiie wee.— world peace. oh, he'll spin it like mad. but— world peace. oh, he'll spin it like mad. but i— world peace. oh, he'll spin it like mad. but i think- : i oh, he'll spin it like mad. but i think there's were— like mad. but i think there's iirere ee— like mad. but i think there's there are other— like mad. but i think there's there are other things that are pereerieiiy— there are other things that are potentially riskier for us as we— potentially riskier for us as the conflict— potentially riskier for us as the conflict unfolds further . the conflict unfolds further. rew— the conflict unfolds further. vew know,— the conflict unfolds further. you know, for— the conflict unfolds further. you know, for example, if putin 90esr_ you know, for example, if putin eees wire— you know, for example, if putin goes, who holds— you know, for example, if putin goes, who holds russia together? and goes, who holds russia together? aee we— goes, who holds russia together? were we ireve— goes, who holds russia together? aee we ireve ie— goes, who holds russia together? and we have to remember , russia and we have to remember, russia is eei— and we have to remember, russia is eei e— and we have to remember, russia is not a homogenous state. it is a is not a homogenous state. it is eieeereiiee— is not a homogenous state. it is a federation of— is not a homogenous state. it is a federation of different sieieieis— a federation of different statelets. and not all of those are necessarily— statelets. and not all of those are necessarily supporting what eerie— are necessarily supporting what eerie is— are necessarily supporting what eerie is eeiee.— are necessarily supporting what putin is doing. and not all of iirese— putin is doing. and not all of iirese ee— putin is doing. and not all of those are taking— putin is doing. and not all of those are taking equal shares in wirer— those are taking equal shares in wirei is— those are taking equal shares in what is happening. and the iieppie— what is happening. and the kingpin that's— what is happening. and the kingpin that's holding everyreiep— kingpin that's holding everything together at the weweei— everything together at the moment vladimir everything together at the moment-vladimir acting moment is vladimir putin acting as moment is vladimir putin acting es e eweree— moment is vladimir putin acting as a dictator. once— moment is vladimir putin acting as a dictator. once he goes in iris— as a dictator. once he goes in iris ieeer— as a dictator. once he goes in his inner circle— as a dictator. once he goes in his inner circle will start eewiee— his inner circle will start iieeiiep ier— his inner circle will start fighting for their own power. as reei— fighting for their own power. as we eeppees— fighting for their own power. as we ireppees. ii— fighting for their own power. as that happens, it could we could weii— that happens, it could we could weii see— that happens, it could we could well see that— that happens, it could we could well see that the— that happens, it could we could well see that the elements of we— well see that the elements of we iewssiee — well see that the elements of the russian federation starting to the russian federation starting re iieiri— the russian federation starting re iieirr ier— the russian federation starting to fight for their— the russian federation starting to fight for their own pace and iiee— to fight for their own pace and riree ewer— to fight for their own pace and then other nations that are irieeiee— then other nations that are binding them,— then other nations that are binding them, example, china binding them, for example, china going— binding them, for example, china going-like— binding them, for example, china going like destabilised going we don't like destabilised sweii— going we don't like destabilised sweii sieies— going we don't like destabilised small states on— going we don't like destabilised small states on our borders. wirer— small states on our borders. weer—re- small states on our borders. weer—re eel small states on our borders.- what_to do about what are we going to do about it? what are we going to do about ire—versi— what are we going to do about it? _worst case- it? that's the worst case scenario . okay.- it? that's the worst case scenario . ;; it? that's the worst case - scenario . okay. phillip ingram it? that's the worst case- scenario . okay. phillip ingram , scenario. okay. phillip ingram, thank you for your expert analysis this afternoon. thanks

for joining us on gb news. thank forjoining us on gb news. thank you. next story, as you. okay. to our next story, as you. okay. to our next story, as you in the news you just heard in the news there, humphries you just heard in the news therpassed humphries you just heard in the news therpassed today phries you just heard in the news therpassed today , hries you just heard in the news therpassed today , aged 89, has passed away today, aged 89, after being hospitalised for complications after hip surgery . he was king charles's all time favourite comedian as dame edna. he infiltrated the royal box that famous time, leaving the then prince charles and camilla in hysterics and legendary comedian jim davidson told gb news that he thinks barry was the greatest and wittiest comedian of all time . and now to comedian of all time. and now to tell us more about this , former tell us more about this, former sun correspondent, the legend charles rea joins us. charles, sad news . it's always a pleasure sad news. it's always a pleasure to talk to you , but it's fair to to talk to you, but it's fair to say that prince charles was was tickled pink by the gladioli wielding barry humphries. tell us more about that famous moment on the balcony. absolutely. absolutely martin. i mean, he shared absolutely martin. i mean, he sireree rrre— absolutely martin. i mean, he shared the accolade- ' ;ri;;g iigj”; t“ i mean, he shared the accolade with spike iiiiiieee— shared the accolade with spike milliganr ei— shared the accolade with spike milligan, of course, who was eeeiirer— milligan, of course, who was eeeiirer eee— milligan, of course, who was another one of— milligan, of course, who was another one of prince charles. eee— another one of prince charles. eee irieee— another one of prince charles. and prince charles's favourite eeweieese— and prince charles's favourite eeeeieese .— and prince charles's favourite comedians . and— and prince charles's favourite comedians . and barry humphries comedians. and barry humphries was comedians. and barry humphries eeeiirer— comedians. and barry humphries was another one— comedians. and barry humphries was another one who fitted who

iiiiee— was another one who fitted who iiiiee reei— was another one who fitted who fitted that bill. _ was another one who fitted who fitted that bill. ' r: ”ii: fitted that bill. and you're absolutely right, by mentioning the royal variety performance where he appeared to stumble into the royal box by mistake, which left both charles and camilla and other members of the royal box in hysterics as it was clearly, obviously planned to bnng clearly, obviously planned to bring a large bit of brightness to the royal variety performance . but yeah, he met the future iiee— . but yeah, he met the future iiee ee— . but yeah, he met the future iiee ee e— . but yeah, he met the future king on a number— but yeah, he met the future king on a number of occasions eee— king on a number of occasions eee reey— king on a number of occasions and they always— king on a number of occasions and they always had a very , very and they always had a very, very eeei— and they always had a very, very good relationship— and they always had a very, very good relationship and i won't be surprised— good relationship and i won't be surprised ii— good relationship and i won't be surprised if sometime later ieeey— surprised if sometime later ieeey er— surprised if sometime later today or tomorrow we see some reew— today or tomorrow we see some ierw ei— today or tomorrow we see some ierw ei wirere— today or tomorrow we see some form of tribute coming out from eweiieeirew — form of tribute coming out from buckingham palace on behalf of the buckingham palace on behalf of we king— buckingham palace on behalf of we wee eee— buckingham palace on behalf of the king and queen. / the king and queen. yeah, cerieieiy— the king and queen. yeah, eerieieiy. i— the king and queen. yeah, certainly. i think there'll be there'll be many, many people flocking to youtube now, googung flocking to youtube now, googling that precise moment and searching for it out there because it was a fantastic because it was a fan tastic amazing moment. and barry humphries will be sadly, sadly missed. huge fan myself . onto missed. huge fan myself. onto another story now. charles and that's once again albie nations

of ongoing systemic bias and racism . um from meghan markle racism. um from meghan markle against the royal family. what's it about this time? charles right. this is an excellent and an right. this is an excellent and ee eweziee— right. this is an excellent and an amazing story— right. this is an excellent and an amazing story by- 39 this is an excellent and an amazing story by the daily ieieprepir— an amazing story by the daily ieieprepe wire— an amazing story by the daily telegraph who have uncovered a eewpie— telegraph who have uncovered a eewpie ei— telegraph who have uncovered a couple of letters— telegraph who have uncovered a couple of letters that were seer. — couple of letters that were seer. weii— couple of letters that were sent. well, the— couple of letters that were sent. well, the king, the then irieee — sent. well, the king, the then irieee er— sent. well, the king, the then prince of wales,— sent. well, the king, the then prince of wales, sent to meghan ewer— prince of wales, sent to meghan eiier rrre— prince of wales, sent to meghan after the oprah— prince of wales, sent to meghan after the oprah winfrey controversy _ after the oprah winfrey controversy controlled controversial - controversy controlled controversial interview , and to controversial interview, and to which— controversial interview, and to wirieir sire— controversial interview, and to which she replied, now, if you remember the _ which she replied, now, if you remember the centre point of reei— remember the centre point of we ei— remember the centre point of we ei reei— remember the centre point of that of that interview was the reei— that of that interview was the ieei reei— that of that interview was the fact that she— that of that interview was the fact that she said— that of that interview was the fact that she said that a senior member— fact that she said that a senior wewirer ei— fact that she said that a senior member of the— fact that she said that a senior member of the royal family had speewieiee— member of the royal family had speculated about— member of the royal family had speculated about the colour of the speculated about the colour of we wreree — speculated about the colour of the unborn, of— speculated about the colour of the unborn, of her— speculated about the colour of the unborn, of her unborn son's siie. — the unborn, of her unborn son's siie. eee— the unborn, of her unborn son's skin. and everybody went into weiieewe— skin. and everybody went into meltdown and— skin. and everybody went into meltdown and everything else . meltdown and everything else. um.— meltdown and everything else. um, irer— meltdown and everything else. um, but charles— meltdown and everything else. um, but charles was so upset reei— um, but charles was so upset iirei wire— um, but charles was so upset that with the— um, but charles was so upset that with the allegations that sire — that with the allegations that sire weee— that with the allegations that sire weee ie— that with the allegations that she made in this— that with the allegations that she made in this that he took it wpee— she made in this that he took it wpee iriwseie— she made in this that he took it upon himself, the— she made in this that he took it upon himself, the only member of the upon himself, the only member of we ieeyei— upon himself, the only member of we ieeyei reeiiy— upon himself, the only member of the royal family to— upon himself, the only member of the royal family to do so. and i swspeei— the royal family to do so. and i swspeer erer-s— the royal family to do so. and i suspect that's because , as the suspect that's because, as the wee— suspect that's because, as the wee seie— suspect that's because, as the then senior royal— suspect that's because, as the then senior royal just under the crew— then senior royal just under the wee ire— then senior royal just under the queen, he felt— then senior royal just under the queen, he felt it— then senior royal just under the queen, he felt it right to he weies—

queen, he felt it right to he weies e— queen, he felt it right to he makes a response to meghan and he makes a response to meghan and ire expressed— makes a response to meghan and he expressed his— makes a response to meghan and he expressed his sadness in that ieiier— he expressed his sadness in that ieiier ier— he expressed his sadness in that ieiier ier ei— he expressed his sadness in that letter for of the _ he expressed his sadness in that letter for of the chasm that had emerged— letter for of the chasm that had emerged between— letter for of the chasm that had emerged between the two sides and emerged between the two sides eee eew— emerged between the two sides eee ree— emerged between the two sides and now the interesting part in all and now the interesting part in eii reis— and now the interesting part in eii iiris es— and now the interesting part in all this as well— and now the interesting part in all this as well is— and now the interesting part in all this as well is that that in we— all this as well is that that in we eveireeee— all this as well is that that in the exchange of— all this as well is that that in the exchange of letters, it is weeersieee— the exchange of letters, it is understood that— the exchange of letters, it is understood that both the king eee— understood that both the king eee rrre— understood that both the king and the duchess— understood that both the king and the duchess ignored , alleged and the duchess ignored, alleged that and the duchess ignored, alleged we we— and the duchess ignored, alleged that the individual's remark, wire— that the individual's remark, wire es— that the individual's remark, who was named— that the individual's remark, who was named in the letter , by who was named in the letter, by the who was named in the letter, by we weyt— who was named in the letter, by we wey. we— who was named in the letter, by the way, we still— who was named in the letter, by the way, we still don't know who it the way, we still don't know who i is. — the way, we still don't know who i is. irre— the way, we still don't know who it is. the remark— the way, we still don't know who it is. the remark was not made ewi— it is. the remark was not made ewi ei— it is. the remark was not made out of malice.— it is. the remark was not made out of malice. now, if meghan ireiievee— out of malice. now, if meghan ireiievee ii— out of malice. now, if meghan believed it wasn't— out of malice. now, if meghan believed it wasn't made out of weiieet— believed it wasn't made out of weiiee. iiee— believed it wasn't made out of malice, then why— believed it wasn't made out of malice, then why on air did she go ee— malice, then why on air did she go ee ee— malice, then why on air did she go on an international interview to go on an international interview re sweeesr— go on an international interview re swppesi ei— go on an international interview to suggest of racism or as she reersi— to suggest of racism or as she reersi re.— to suggest of racism or as she reersi re. es— to suggest of racism or as she refers to, as unconscious bias? ewi— refers to, as unconscious bias? err is— refers to, as unconscious bias? err is — refers to, as unconscious bias? but it's racism by— refers to, as unconscious bias? but it's racism by any other ie we— but it's racism by any other name in the royal family and swirseeweeriy— name in the royal family and subsequently in— name in the royal family and subsequently in the country iiseii— subsequently in the country iiseii .— subsequently in the country iiseii . i— subsequently in the country itself . i just— subsequently in the country itself . i just think harry and itself. i just think harry and iieeiree— itself. i just think harry and iiepeee eew— itself. i just think harry and meghan now seem to be hell bent on meghan now seem to be hell bent ee eeiee— meghan now seem to be hell bent ee eeiee sewe— meghan now seem to be hell bent on being some sort— meghan now seem to be hell bent on being some sort of permanent ewere— on being some sort of permanent iixiwre ie— on being some sort of permanent iixiwre ie rryiee— on being some sort of permanent fixture in trying to— on being some sort of permanent fixture in trying to take the press— fixture in trying to take the piess ewey— fixture in trying to take the gloss away from this coronation

reei— gloss away from this coronation we is— gloss away from this coronation we is eeiee— gloss away from this coronation we is going ie— gloss away from this coronation that is going to happen on, on, on that is going to happen on, on, ee irev— that is going to happen on, on, ee iiey ree— that is going to happen on, on, on may the 6th.— that is going to happen on, on, on may the 6th. harry is going to on may the 6th. harry is going re ire— on may the 6th. harry is going re ire iirere. — on may the 6th. harry is going to be there. she's— on may the 6th. harry is going to be there. she's not going to be to be there. she's not going to ire iirere. — to be there. she's not going to ire iirere. eee— to be there. she's not going to be there. and that's been given as be there. and that's been given es eeeiirer— be there. and that's been given as another reason,— be there. and that's been given as another reason, um, that sees— as another reason, um, that sees eei— as another reason, um, that she's not coming- as another reason, um, that she's not coming because of this row over unconscious bias and eer— row over unconscious bias and eei resi— row over unconscious bias and not just because— row over unconscious bias and not just because on the day it's eeweie-s— not just because on the day it's archie's fourth— not just because on the day it's archie's fourth birthday. yeah. rew— archie's fourth birthday. yeah. vew veere— archie's fourth birthday. yeah. you you're absolutely right were— you you're absolutely right there charles— you you're absolutely right there charles the point out that it there charles the point out that i es— there charles the point out that i weee— there charles the point out that it was made without malice and ise-i— it was made without malice and ise-i ii— it was made without malice and ise-i ii ieir— it was made without malice and ise-i i we re— it was made without malice and isn't it fair to say— it was made without malice and isn't it fair to say that every pereei. — isn't it fair to say that every pereer. we.— isn't it fair to say that every parent. no, no— isn't it fair to say that every parent. no, no kind- isn't it fair to say that every parent. \jiftj parent. no, no kind of hypothesises about the tone of somebody's skin or the colour of their hair, the colour of their eyes? this is an absolutely normal thing that every parent on does . and it was on the planet does. and it was done the in instance of done in the in the instance of the child archie. she the royal child archie. she herself said it was done without malice, said why the hell did this become such a global talking about talking point about institutional racism in the royal and she raised that royal family and she raised that peiei— royal family and she raised that peiei .— royal family and she raised that peiei . sire— royal family and she raised that peiei . sire es— royal family and she raised that point . she was using— 3 ;g and she raised that point. she was using malice to eise— point. she was using malice to reei— point. she was using malice to raise that point.— point. she was using malice to raise that point. she was trying to raise that point. she was trying re eewse— raise that point. she was trying to cause problems— raise that point. she was trying to cause problems for the royal rewiiy.— to cause problems for the royal rewiiy. wew— to cause problems for the royal family. now, this— to cause problems for the royal family. now, this is a woman who not family. now, this is a woman who eei resi— family. now, this is a woman who eei iwsi reis— family. now, this is a woman who not just this one,— family. now, this is a woman who not just this one, she shoots reew— not just this one, she shoots irew ree— not just this one, she shoots irew rire iip— not just this one, she shoots from the lip all— not just this one, she shoots

from the lip all the time wiiirewr— from the lip all the time without thinking what she's seyiee. — without thinking what she's seyiep. eee— without thinking what she's seyiep. were i— without thinking what she's saying. and if you remember in the saying. and if you remember in we see— saying. and if you remember in the same interview, she claimed reei— the same interview, she claimed we see— the same interview, she claimed iirei sire eei— the same interview, she claimed that she got married three days irerere— that she got married three days irerere-iire— that she got married three days before-the royal- that she got married three days before the royal wedding before hand. the royal wedding and before hand. the royal wedding eee wirieir— before hand. the royal wedding and which wasn't— before hand. the royal wedding and which wasn't it was just the reireersee— and which wasn't it was just the rehearsed all,— and which wasn't it was just the rehearsed all, you— and which wasn't it was just the rehearsed all, you know, all iirese— rehearsed all, you know, all iirese seri— rehearsed all, you know, all these sort of— rehearsed all, you know, all these sort of things come out of her these sort of things come out of irer wewir— these sort of things come out of her mouth that— these sort of things come out of her mouth that she— these sort of things come out of her mouth that she just doesn't iiriei— her mouth that she just doesn't iiriei eirewi— her mouth that she just doesn't think about it.— her mouth that she just doesn't think about it. the— her mouth that she just doesn't think about it. the other thing eie— think about it. the other thing was, oh, archie— think about it. the other thing was, oh, archie and lilibet are going— was, oh, archie and lilibet are eeiee ie— was, oh, archie and lilibet are going re ire— was, oh, archie and lilibet are going to be deprived of being a piece— going to be deprived of being a piece eee— going to be deprived of being a prince and princess. well, iirei-s— prince and princess. well, that's absolute- prince and princess. well, that's absolute rubbish. they are no a prince— that's absolute rubbish. they are no a prince and princess. eee— are no a prince and princess. eee rirer-s— are no a prince and princess. and that's not— are no a prince and princess. and that's not just something erer-s— and that's not just something rirer-s ireee— and that's not just something that's been done. that's in the seri— that's been done. that's in the see ei— that's been done. that's in the see ei yew— that's been done. that's in the sort of you like— that's been done. that's in the sort of you like the royal preieeei— sort of you like the royal protocol rule _ sort of you like the royal protocol rule book that grandchildren of the monarch get rirese— grandchildren of the monarch get iirese riiies. — grandchildren of the monarch get those titles. they've got the riiies. — those titles. they've got the riiies. i— those titles. they've got the titles. i don't— those titles. they've got the titles. i don't understand what reis— titles. i don't understand what we eewpie— titles. i don't understand what this couple want— titles. i don't understand what this couple want anymore. i reeiiy— this couple want anymore. i reeiiy i— this couple want anymore. i really i really— this couple want anymore. i really i really i'm a loss to understand— really i really i'm a loss to understand what it is that they weer— understand what it is that they weer . — understand what it is that they weer . ewey— understand what it is that they want . okay. charles,- understand what it is that they want . want. okay. charles, we must remember, of course, that that meghan isn't here to defend herself . and let's not do herself. and let's not do a dominic raab. we can't bully her too much. she only crying too much. she only go crying about it just like the civil service. doubt. charles, it's service. no doubt. charles, it's always pleasure and never always a pleasure and never a chore. and of course, he denies

those bullying allegations, too . do you think . but in a word, do you think she'll the she'll be missed at the coronation uh, in a word , no. i coronation uh, in a word, no. i eee-i— coronation uh, in a word, no. i eee-i iiriei— coronation uh, in a word, no. i don't think she'll— coronation uh, in a word, no. i don't think she'll be- uh, in a word, no. i don't think she'll be missed at eii— don't think she'll be missed at eii. wei— don't think she'll be missed at eii. wei ey— don't think she'll be missed at eii. wer iry eei— don't think she'll be missed at all. not by not the only person wire— all. not by not the only person wee preireiriy— all. not by not the only person who probably miss her is harry. eiey. — who probably miss her is harry. eiey. eee— who probably miss her is harry. eiey. eee ire-s— who probably miss her is harry. okay. and he's going to be were.— okay. and he's going to be iirere. — okay. and he's going to be there. never— okay. and he's going to be there. never mind. - okay. and he's going to be there. jr r: j/ri:; okay. and he's going to be there. j “r: j/rit; ri.gj“ ; there. never mind. you can't have it all ways. charles rea, thank you very for joining thank you very much for joining us always us today. it's always a pleasure. chore. okay. pleasure. never a chore. okay. you're listening to pleasure. never a chore. okay. you news listening to pleasure. never a chore. okay. you news satellite listening to pleasure. never a chore. okay. you news satellite withtening to pleasure. never a chore. okay. you news satellite with myself,) gb news satellite with myself, martin daubney loads more coming up this afternoon. up on the show this afternoon. we'll be looking back at the 30th of the stephen 30th anniversary of the stephen lawrence murder. european judges losing their to block losing their powers to block migrant flights whether migrant flights and whether premier badges are premier league sports badges are racist. of that after these racist. all of that after these messages. you're probably seeing politicians interviewed a thousand times. but we do it eiiiereeriy. — thousand times. but we do it differently. we— thousand times. but we do it differently. we find- : c but we do it differently. we find out who reey— differently. we find out who iirey reeiiy— differently. we find out who they really are. _ differently. we find out who they really are. �*jgeri; r:ritr“ ; differently. we find out who they really are. �*jgeri; r:rir“ ; they really are. we don't shout, we chat, and hopefully we bring a bit of light and not just heat. did you know kate moss? apparently . do you have a heat. did you know kate moss? apparently. do you have a pair ofjeans apparently. do you have a pair of jeans or a pair of jews? of course i did. what would- course i did. what would i do wire— course i did. what would i do wiiir iirewe — course i did. what would i do with them? my— course i did. what would i do with them? iig : gjii; ; with them? my friends are like, oh my god, what's she doing now?

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wonderful bethany elsey. martin, rireei— wonderful bethany elsey. martin, rireei yew— wonderful bethany elsey. martin, rireei yew . — wonderful bethany elsey. martin, thank you . good— wonderful bethany elsey. martin, thank you . ;: t“ thank you. good afternoon. here's your latest headlines from the gb newsroom at 1:00, former deputy prime minister dominic raab has blamed activists within the civil service for his downfall, saying they're holding the government back. he resigned they're holding the government back . he resigned yesterday back. he resigned yesterday after an investigation upheld some of the bullying allegations made against him . mr raab claims made against him. mr raab claims a minority of those within whitehall are effectively trying to block government . he told gb to block government. he told gb news that he's very confident he didn't behave in a bullying way . least of these allegations were dismissed— least of these allegations were dismissed out of hand. and i were dismissed out of hand. and i iiriei— were dismissed out of hand. and new peepie— were dismissed out of hand. and i think people watching this wewir— i think people watching this wewie ee— i think people watching this would be surprised that in scrutinising— would be surprised that in scrutinising civil servants in weiiee— scrutinising civil servants in weiiee swe— scrutinising civil servants in making sure that millions of pewees— making sure that millions of pewees ei— making sure that millions of pounds of taxpayers money is not seweeeereet— pounds of taxpayers money is not squandered, being— pounds of taxpayers money is not squandered, being able to pull very— squandered, being able to pull very seie— squandered, being able to pull very senior civil— squandered, being able to pull very senior civil servants, not iweier— very senior civil servants, not junior members— very senior civil servants, not junior members of staff up and say,— junior members of staff up and sew poop,— junior members of staff up and sew ieei. i— junior members of staff up and say, look, i don't— junior members of staff up and say, look, i don't have the eesie—

say, look, i don't have the basic information on to decide reis— basic information onto decide this ,_ basic information on to decide iiris . iiee— basic information on to decide iiris . riree i— basic information on to decide this , then i think— basic information on to decide this , then i think it puts a this, then i think it puts a ireeeirreie— this, then i think it puts a handbrake apparel sizing effect on handbrake apparel sizing effect ee wieisiers— handbrake apparel sizing effect on ministers delivering for the eriiisir— on ministers delivering for the eririsir peepie— on ministers delivering for the british people . _ on ministers delivering for the british people . �*jgerit;; : british people. well, shadow health minister andrew gwynne has condemned mr raab's behaviour and described some of the language in his resignation letter as appalling, saying those who've blown the whistle have a right to do so. why the prime minister, who will have known about these allegations, they weren't a secret sort to appoint him to the second most senior position in government as deputy prime minister. but also why he didn't sack— j r; 37” ii t“ but also why he didn't sack dominic raab on why he didn't sack dominic raab ee reeeiviee— why he didn't sack dominic raab on receiving this— why he didn't sack dominic raab on receiving this report , why he on receiving this report, why he eiiewee— on receiving this report, why he allowed dominic— on receiving this report, why he allowed dominic raab to leave on his allowed dominic raab to leave on iris ewe— allowed dominic raab to leave on iris reews— allowed dominic raab to leave on his own terms and— allowed dominic raab to leave on his own terms and worst of all, eeweiiee— his own terms and worst of all, doubling down— his own terms and worst of all, doubling down on— his own terms and worst of all, doubling down on the whistleblowers, on the victims . whistleblowers, on the victims. i whistleblowers, on the victims. i ririei— whistleblowers, on the victims. i iiriei reei— whistleblowers, on the victims. i think that that— whistleblowers, on the victims. i think that that letter that eewieie— i think that that letter that dominic raab— i think that that letter that dominic raab produced in his resieeeriee— dominic raab produced in his resignation was— dominic raab produced in his resignation was quite frankly eppeiiiep— resignation was quite frankly eppeiiiep eee— resignation was quite frankly appalling and showed no humility and appalling and showed no humility eee ee— appalling and showed no humility and no contrition_ appalling and showed no humility and no contrition . _ appalling and showed no humility and no contrition . ' “g and no contrition. a serving member of the british armed forces has been charged with

offences under the official secrets act. 36 year old thomas newson was charged on friday following an investigation by the metropolitan police's counter—terror tourism command. he's been remanded in custody and is due to appear at westminster magistrates court later . the health secretary , later. the health secretary, steve barclay, says he's planning to launch legal action against the royal college of nursing over planned strikes at the end of the month. industrial action is planned from the 30th of april to the 2nd of may. pat cullen, the union's general secretary, has accused the government of being desperate to silence nurses rather than address the pay issue. she added that nursing staff want to be in a negotiating room, not a court room . the cbi has suspended all room. the cbi has suspended all policy and membership activity after allegations of rape and sexual assault prompted some of its biggest names to quit. dozens of members, including john lewis, natwest, jaguar , john lewis, natwest, jaguar, land rover and bt, are among

those to pull out of the trade body. those to pull out of the trade body . the cbi says it shares the body. the cbi says it shares the shock and revulsion over the allegations as the family of stephen lawrence are holding a memorial service in trafalgar square to mark the 30th anniversary of his murder. the 18 year old was killed in a racist attack while he was waiting for a bus. the mayor of london, sadiq khan, and the labour leader, sir keir starmer, are attending . mr khan said it are attending. mr khan said it was a time to celebrate the work of the lawrence family . we're of the lawrence family. we're here today to celebrate- , we're here today to celebrate and remember stephen lawrence . his remember stephen lawrence. his life— remember stephen lawrence. his iiie. iris— remember stephen lawrence. his iiie. eis iepeey— remember stephen lawrence. his life, his legacy. but also the extraordinary— life, his legacy. but also the extraordinary work that's taken piece— extraordinary work that's taken pieee ey— extraordinary work that's taken pieee iry iris— extraordinary work that's taken place by his family , doreen place by his family, doreen ievweee ey— place by his family, doreen lawrence, by their team to eeeress— lawrence, by their team to address the _ lawrence, by their team to address the issues of equality , address the issues of equality, eiversiiy— address the issues of equality, eiversiry eee— address the issues of equality, diversity and inclusion for iereee— diversity and inclusion for foreign nationals , including foreign nationals, including irew— foreign nationals, including irew rrre— foreign nationals, including irew rire ew— foreign nationals, including from the uk, us , france and from the uk, us, france and eeiee— from the uk, us, france and ciriee ee— from the uk, us, france and ciriee re— from the uk, us, france and china are to be— from the uk, us, france and china are to be evacuated from eeiee— china are to be evacuated from sweee es— china are to be evacuated from sudan as fierce— china are to be evacuated from sudan as fierce fighting in the eeweiry— sudan as fierce fighting in the

country enters— sudan as fierce fighting in the country enters its— sudan as fierce fighting in the country enters its second week. iie— country enters its second week. we sweeeese— country enters its second week. the sudanese army— country enters its second week. the sudanese army says- country enters its second week. the sudanese army says it- country enters its second week. the sudanese army says it has agreed to help evacuate plans. the world health organisation says more than 400 people have been killed and thousands more injured in sudan since the violence began. government forces there are battling with a paramilitary group over control of the capital, khartoum . the of the capital, khartoum. the united states supreme court has preserved access to a widely used abortion pill, but warns of a long fight ahead as legal challenges continue. the ruling comes after a us district judge appointed by donald trump issued an injunction to limit the availability of the pill, a mirror method . president biden's mirror method. president biden's administration is seeking to defend the pill amid mounting abortion bans and restrictions which were enacted by republicans who overturn turned in 1973. decision to legalise abortion . tributes have poured abortion. tributes have poured in for the australian

entertainer barry humphries , who entertainer barry humphries, who has died at the age of 89 during a seven decade career, he was best known for his alter egos, including dame edna everage and sir les patterson. actor jason donovan described him as an entertaining genius. comedian dara o'briain called him one of the absolute funniest people even the absolute funniest people ever, and the australian prime minister anthony albanese paid tribute to him as the brightest star in a galaxy of personas . he star in a galaxy of personas. he died in hospital, surrounded by his family . you're up to date on his family. you're up to date on gb news now it's back to . gb news now it's back to. martin and thank you very much for that, . and thank you very much for iree-eee— - and thank you very much for iree-eee eew— . and thank you very much for that,-and now on- . and thank you very much for that,-and now on to- - and thank you very much for that,-and now on to the. that, beth. and now on to the big— that, beth. and now on to the big-week- that, beth. and now on to the eie-weei-iirel big story this week after the iriwe— big story this week after the prime minister— big story this week after the prime minister received the eweiees— prime minister received the iieeiees ei— prime minister received the findings of the— prime minister received the findings of the report into eewieie— findings of the report into dominic conduct findings of the report into- dominic-conduct following dominic robb's conduct following eewpieieis— dominic robb's conduct following complaints about— dominic robb's conduct following complaints about bullying his complaints about bullying in his eeiee— complaints about bullying in his eiiiee es— complaints about bullying in his eiiiee es rrre— complaints about bullying in his office as the former deputy

iriwe— office as the former deputy prime minister— office as the former deputy prime minister and justice seereiery— prime minister and justice secretary resigned after two of the-complaints- secretary resigned after two of the complaints were upheld the eight complaints were upheld in the eight complaints were upheld ie iris— the eight complaints were upheld in his resignation— the eight complaints were upheld in his resignation letter. the rerwer— in his resignation letter. the ierreer eepwry— in his resignation letter. the former deputy expressed his former deputy pm expressed his eee— former deputy pm expressed his eweree—eee- former deputy pm expressed his eweree—eee iris| anger, disappointment and his reei— anger, disappointment and his concern that his— anger, disappointment and his concern that his resignation eewie— concern that his resignation eerie sei— concern that his resignation eewie sei e— concern that his resignation could set a dangerous precedent for could set a dangerous precedent ier ierwe— could set a dangerous precedent for future government ministers. arew— for future government ministers. a iew irewrs— for future government ministers. a few hours after— for future government ministers. a few hours after he resigned, the a few hours after he resigned, ree eepwiy— a few hours after he resigned, ree eepwry pn— a few hours after he resigned, the deputy pm sat down with our very— the deputy pm sat down with our very ewe— the deputy pm sat down with our very own political— the deputy pm sat down with our very own political reporter , very own political reporter, eiivie— very own political reporter, olivia utley.— very own political reporter, olivia utley. she asked him wireiirer— olivia utley. she asked him wireiirer ire— olivia utley. she asked him whether he thought the allegations— whether he thought the allegations made against him pereiy— allegations made against him were purely political and this is wirer— were purely political and this is wirei ire— were purely political and this is what he had— were purely political and this is what he had to say in response. -way- is what he had to say in response. is what he had to say in- response. -way my behaviour response. the way my behaviour was character is interesting . was character is interesting. adam casey. very experienced barrister who conducted this investigation , found i'd never investigation, found i'd never lost my temper, never over four and a half years, shouted or saw at anyone. but that some people found my direct style of probing, of interrogating , of probing, of interrogating, of scrutiny, unsettling or discomforting or even offensive . and i think there is a certain tyranny of subjective hurt feelings here, which if you actually apply that across the board, means that senior

ministers are at risk as they try and drive forward the change that the british public expect. try and protect taxpayers money, try and deliver for the british people. can actually hold things back.i people. can actually hold things back. i think if you look at that across the board and particularly if you compare it to other walks of life, stressful jobs, high powered businesses, but other walks of life generally, think life more generally, i think people pretty people would be pretty surprised. course , surprised. the risk, of course, is that it leads government ministers politics lessons to look and feel to the public even more detached from reality . and more detached from reality. and if you want to see that full- if you want to see that full ieierview— if you want to see that full interview is— if you want to see that full interview is 30— if you want to see that full interview is 30 minutes with eiivie— interview is 30 minutes with eiivie ewey— interview is 30 minutes with olivia utley. superb. it's on our-channel- olivia utley. superb. it's on our-channel at- olivia utley. superb. it's on our channel at gb olivia utley. superb. it's on- our-channel at gb news. our youtube channel at gb news. go our youtube channel at gb news. we eee— our youtube channel at gb news. we eee eireei— our youtube channel at gb news. go and check it— our youtube channel at gb news. go and check it out— our youtube channel at gb news. go and check it out .— our youtube channel at gb news. go and check it out . well, go and check it out. well, ieieiee— go and check it out. well, ieieiep we— go and check it out. well, ieieiep we re— go and check it out. well, joining me to discuss this ieriirer— joining me to discuss this iwweerlwe— joining me to discuss this further gb news political further is gb news political repewer— further is gb news political reporter catherine forster. ceiireriee— reporter catherine forster. catherine robb is resolute. he's seyiee— catherine robb is resolute. he's seyiee reis— catherine robb is resolute. he's seyiee reis es— catherine robb is resolute. he's saying this was a— catherine robb is resolute. he's saying this was a stitch up. it was a coordinated cabal of civil serveeis— was a coordinated cabal of civil serveeis wire— was a coordinated cabal of civil servants with warped and fabricated _ servants with warped and fabricated accounts. he's not going— fabricated accounts. he's not going eewe— fabricated accounts. he's not going down without a fight. jrir going down without a fight. no, not going down without a fight. no, eee ei— going down without a fight. no, eee er eii. — going down without a fight. no, not at all. and— going down without a fight. no, not at all. and he— going down without a fight. no, not at all. and he has- going down without a fight. no, not at all. and he has history on this because when boris johnson removed him as foreign

secretary after the fall of afghan khan in 2021 to the taliban , when he was, of course, taliban, when he was, of course, on holiday in crete. and so the sea was closed, he pushed back very strongly against that and retained the title of deputy prime minister and was moved to justice secretary. so it's very clear that although he did resign, he clearly feels that he shouldn't have had to. and although the prime minister didn't ask him directly to resign , and it was also made resign, and it was also made clear to him that given it was found that he had breached the ministerial code of conduct, that was what was expected. but he's very angry because he feels no one ever said to him until this point out that his behaviour could be construed as bullying. also, the timeline of this, these complaints were put in over a very short period of time. some of them dated back years, four years. and that he's saying, you know, in a normal environment, you'd have to put that complaint in within three months would be null and

months or it would be null and void. so he obviously feels he's been wronged and he's saying that there are civil servants who basically albie wanted him out because they didn't like some of the things that he was trying to do, whether it be with brexit or with the justice system. and quite a number of fairly prominent tory mps would agree . so jacob agree with him. so jacob rees-m099— agree with him. so jacob rees—mogg-told- ggiini; “ so jacob rees—mogg told gb agree with him. so jacob- rees—mogg-told gb news, you rees—mogg also told gb news, you can rees—mogg also told gb news, you reei— rees—mogg also told gb news, you iirei ee— rees—mogg also told gb news, you can see that on our— rees—mogg also told gb news, you can see that on our youtube eireeeei— can see that on our youtube eireeeei es— can see that on our youtube channel as well,— can see that on our youtube channel as well, that it was wreee— channel as well, that it was wreee ier— channel as well, that it was wrong for rob— channel as well, that it was wrong for rob to— channel as well, that it was wrong for rob to resign and irere-s— wrong for rob to resign and iirere-s-eew— wrong for rob to resign and there's now persistent there's this now persistent iireery—ee- there's this now persistent- rireery—ee-iirei theory that won't go away that theory that won't go away that the - bureaucrats - theory that won't go away that the bureaucrats in the the unelected bureaucrats in the ewe— the unelected bureaucrats in the eivii service— the unelected bureaucrats in the civil service seem— the unelected bureaucrats in the civil service seem to have the pewer— civil service seem to have the pewerrewevel— civil service seem to have the power remove ministers they power to remove ministers they eee-r— power to remove ministers they eee-i pp...— power to remove ministers they don't like. priti_ power to remove ministers they don't like. priti patel went, of wire— don't like. priti patel went, of course, with partygate boris and iiee— course, with partygate boris and ieeir .— course, with partygate boris and ieeir . ir— course, with partygate boris and now rob . it does— course, with partygate boris and now rob . it does make you think now rob. it does make you think reei— now rob. it does make you think we reis— now rob. it does make you think we we is— now rob. it does make you think that this is starting— now rob. it does make you think that this is starting to feel iiie— that this is starting to feel iiie e— that this is starting to feel like a political— that this is starting to feel like a political a politically weiiveiee— like a political a politically motivated attack , getting rid of motivated attack, getting rid of peepie— motivated attack, getting rid of peepie wire— motivated attack, getting rid of people who don't— motivated attack, getting rid of people who don't agree with iiriees— people who don't agree with eeiees iiie— people who don't agree with things like brexit or immigration. �*jgerit;; ; immigration. well, it's certainly caused a huge debate on this, hasn't it, on the impartiality of the civil servants or certainly within some within it? but servants or certainly within some within it ? but today, lord

some within it? but today, lord simon mcdonald, who was the permanent secretary in the foreign office while dominic raab was there, said that the problem is not the civil servants , that that's nonsense, servants, that that's nonsense, that the problem was with the minister's behaviour , saying minister's behaviour, saying that he'd spoken to him on several occasions, saying that he wasn't helping himself to get the most out of his team, but that he hadn't listened. so really divided opinions on this, but really , rishi sunak had no but really, rishi sunak had no choice but to make sure that dominic raab went because because he wants to put distance between himself and boris johnson when he came into power , he talked about integrity , , he talked about integrity, accountability and, you know, given the trouble that the conservative party and boris johnson got themselves into when they tried to defend owen paterson , who was found to have paterson, who was found to have broken the standards code then with partygate and then with chris pincher, you can see why. rishi sunak, although it will have pained him massively to get

rid of him, felt that he did have to go and of course the labour party are making hay out of this. so what have they been seyiee— of this. so what have they been seyiee e — of this. so what have they been seyiee e iew— of this. so what have they been saying ? erg .they- of this. so what have they been saying ? erg .they will.- of this. so what have they been. saying ? erg .they will. keir saying? erg yes, they will. keir starmer yesterday this starmer say yesterday that this is that rishi is is proof that rishi sunak is weak, that he hadn't had the guts to sack him . of course, if guts to sack him. of course, if rishi sunak if he had still been in office, they'd have been criticising that as well. but andrew gwynne , the shadow health andrew gwynne, the shadow health secretary, was speaking to gb news earlier. let's have a look at he had to say. if you at what he had to say. if you feel that you have been treated badly, you feel that your badly, if you feel that your people further up the feeding chain, whether that's your line manager or whether it's a minister of the crown who has belittled you, has bullied you, you have the right to call that out. and that's what these peepie— out. and that's what these peepie ireve— ; and that's what these people have done. and i'm not going— people have done. and i'm not eeiee ie— people have done. and i'm not going to double— people have done. and i'm not going to double down on people wire— going to double down on people wire-reei— going to double down on people wire-erer reey— going to double down on people who that they been who feel that they have been eeeiee— who feel that they have been treated badly— who feel that they have been treated badly and rightly treated badly and have rightly iriewe— treated badly and have rightly eiewe ree— treated badly and have rightly blown the whistle. there have ireee— blown the whistle. there have been allegations— blown the whistle. there have been allegations of bullying perweeiiee— been allegations of bullying permeating the corridors of pewer— permeating the corridors of pewer eeewi— permeating the corridors of power about dominic raab, not

resi— power about dominic raab, not iwsi ie— power about dominic raab, not iwsi ie iris— power about dominic raab, not just in his most— power about dominic raab, not just in his most recent department,- just in his most recent department, but in previous eeperiweeis.— department, but in previous departments. firstly it does beg the departments. firstly it does beg ree ewesiiee— departments. firstly it does beg the question why— departments. firstly it does beg the question why the prime iiieisiert— the question why the prime minister, who— the question why the prime minister, who will have known eirewi— minister, who will have known eirewi iirese— minister, who will have known about these allegations, they wee-eei— about these allegations, they weren't a secret,— about these allegations, they weren't a secret, sought to eppeiei— weren't a secret, sought to eppeier eiw— weren't a secret, sought to appoint him to— weren't a secret, sought to appoint him to the second most senior position— appoint him to the second most senior position in— appoint him to the second most senior position in government as eepwiy— senior position in government as eepwry iriwe— senior position in government as deputy prime minister but also why— deputy prime minister but also wiry ire— deputy prime minister but also why ire eiiew-i— deputy prime minister but also why he didn't sack dominic raab on why he didn't sack dominic raab ee reeeiviee— why he didn't sack dominic raab on receiving this— why he didn't sack dominic raab on receiving this report, why he eiiewee— on receiving this report, why he allowed dominic— on receiving this report, why he allowed dominic raab to leave on his allowed dominic raab to leave on iris ewe— allowed dominic raab to leave on iris reews— allowed dominic raab to leave on his own terms and— allowed dominic raab to leave on his own terms and worst of all, eeweiiee— his own terms and worst of all, doubling down— his own terms and worst of all, doubling down on— his own terms and worst of all, doubling down on the whistleblowers, on the victims . whistleblowers, on the victims. i whistleblowers, on the victims. i ririei— whistleblowers, on the victims. i iiriei reei— whistleblowers, on the victims. i think that that— whistleblowers, on the victims. i think that that letter that eewieie— i think that that letter that dominic raab— i think that that letter that dominic raab produced in his resieeeriee— dominic raab produced in his resignation was— dominic raab produced in his resignation was quite frankly eppeiiiep— resignation was quite frankly eppeiiiep eee— resignation was quite frankly appalling and showed no humility and appalling and showed no humility eee ee— appalling and showed no humility and no contrition_ appalling and showed no humility and no contrition and no reflection— and no contrition and no reflection on— and no contrition and no reflection on on what others perceive— reflection on on what others pereeive re— reflection on on what others perceive to be— reflection on on what others perceive to be bad behaviour on his perceive to be bad behaviour on iris peri— perceive to be bad behaviour on iris pew .— perceive to be bad behaviour on his pew . se— perceive to be bad behaviour on his part . so labour— perceive to be bad behaviour on his part . so labour , as you his part. so labour, as you wewir— his part. so labour, as you would expect,— his part. so labour, as you would expect, obviously really going— would expect, obviously really going ie— would expect, obviously really peiep re eewe— would expect, obviously really going to town on— would expect, obviously really going to town on this , but going to town on this, but eieeriy— going to town on this, but eieeriy e— going to town on this, but clearly a lot— going to town on this, but clearly a lot of- going to town on this, but clearly a lot of people will ireve— clearly a lot of people will ireve resi— clearly a lot of people will have just heard— clearly a lot of people will have just heard deputy prime iiieisier— have just heard deputy prime minister bullying resigned and

will minister bullying resigned and vii run,— minister bullying resigned and will think, okay,— minister bullying resigned and will think, okay, now let's move on will think, okay, now let's move ee ireeewse yer— will think, okay, now let's move on because yet again the conservative— on because yet again the conservative party is engaged in, conservative party is engaged p. yew— conservative party is engaged p. yew ieewt— conservative party is engaged in, you know, fighting amongst iirewseives. — in, you know, fighting amongst themselves. what— in, you know, fighting amongst themselves. : themselves. what should happen, what shouldn't have happened, who is to blame, why , while not who is to blame, why, while not deaung who is to blame, why, while not dealing with the issues that the british people are concerned about, cost living, small british people are concerned about,etceteraliving, small british people are concerned about,etcetera ,ving, small british people are concerned about, etcetera , etcetera, ll british people are concerned about,etcetera , etcetera, and boats, etcetera, etcetera, and rishi sunak at number 10 really want the conversation to move on, but not at the moment about gordon brown, of course, wasn't averse to throwing a few things or talking tough and bullying civil servants in his tenureship . anyway, let's move on to eeeiirer— . anyway, let's move on to eeeiirer eie— . anyway, let's move on to another big story- anyway, let's move on to another big story of the day now. catherine,— another big story of the day now. catherine, the head of the ieeyei— now. catherine, the head of the ieeyei-ei— now. catherine, the head of the royal-of nursing- royal college of nursing has irreeeisiree— royal college of nursing has brandished barclay, the brandished steve barclay, the weeiiir— brandished steve barclay, the weeiiir-es— brandished steve barclay, the health-as cruel- brandished steve barclay, the health as cruel as he health secretary, as cruel as he is sei— health secretary, as cruel as he is sei re— health secretary, as cruel as he is set to pursue— health secretary, as cruel as he is set to pursue legal action to siep— is set to pursue legal action to siep-siriiiep- stop nurses striking, saying ire-s— stop nurses striking, saying ires-ree- stop nurses striking, saying he's the strikers like he's treating the strikers like eriwieeis— he's treating the strikers like eriwieeis .— he's treating the strikers like criminals . so— he's treating the strikers like criminals . so stuart mccaffrey criminals. so stuart mccaffrey in criminals. so stuart mccaffrey ie reis— criminals. so stuart mccaffrey ie we eee— criminals. so stuart mccaffrey in this one, talk— criminals. so stuart mccaffrey in this one, talk us through reis— in this one, talk us through this because— in this one, talk us through this because on— in this one, talk us through this because on the one hand, ire-s— this because on the one hand, ire-s eer— this because on the one hand, ire-s eei e— this because on the one hand, we per e peieit— this because on the one hand, he's got a point, but this is eirewr— he's got a point, but this is eirewi e— he's got a point, but this is about a technicality. motty on the about a technicality. motty on we ewi— about a technicality. motty on we ewi eii— about a technicality. motty on the cut off point— about a technicality. motty on the cut off point of allowing is reei— the cut off point of allowing is we yes— the cut off point of allowing is we yes i— the cut off point of allowing is we yes i is— the cut off point of allowing is that yes, it is. _ the cut off point of allowing is that yes, it is. so— the cut off point of allowing is that yes, it is . that yes, it is. so the nurses are planning a 48 hour walkout

beginning next weekend. and the nhs provide others have got in touch with the government to say that it's illegal because the mandate that they had the nurses six month mandate runs out the midnight before the strike is due to end . so now the health due to end. so now the health secretary is going to court to seek a high court injunction to stop the strikes . so the bad stop the strikes. so the bad blood between the government and the nursing unions has reached an all time high now. but there are, of course, very , very real are, of course, very, very real concerns about the impact, the strike is going to have, because for the first time, the rcn is saying they are not going to provide cover for a&e, for intensive care, for cancer care, things that are critical to people's lives. so so huge, huge concern . and both sides really concern. and both sides really doubung concern. and both sides really doubling down and no end in sight at the moment. sadly okay, catherine force, thanks for okay, catherine force, thanks ier ieieiee— okay, catherine force, thanks ier ieieiep es— okay, catherine force, thanks for joining us today on gb news. forjoining us today on gb news. ewey— forjoining us today on gb news. eiey. ie— forjoining us today on gb news. eiey. ie ew— forjoining us today on gb news. okay. to our next— forjoining us today on gb news. okay. to our next story now.

ieeey— okay. to our next story now. ieeey weris— okay. to our next story now. today marks the _ okay. to our next story now. today marks the 30th anniversary of today marks the 30th anniversary ei ree— today marks the 30th anniversary ei rire reeisi— today marks the 30th anniversary of the racist murder— today marks the 30th anniversary of the racist murder of stephen lawrence, .was _ of the racist murder of stephen lawrence, was stabbed to lawrence, who was stabbed to eeeiir — lawrence, who was stabbed to eeeiir wiriie — lawrence, who was stabbed to death while _for- lawrence, who was stabbed to death while _for a - lawrence, who was stabbed to death while for a bus in death while waiting for a bus in iirirew — death while waiting for a bus in eltham _london. i eltham in south—east london. reis— eltham in south—east london. iiris wereiee— eltham in south—east london. this morning. his— eltham in south—east london. this morning. his family held a weweriei— this morning. his family held a memorial service— this morning. his family held a memorial service in saint martin in memorial service in saint martin ie we— memorial service in saint martin ie we rieies— memorial service in saint martin in the fields church in irereieer— in the fields church in trafalgar square in london. well ier-s— trafalgar square in london. well ier-s eew— trafalgar square in london. well let's now cross— trafalgar square in london. well let's now cross over to ireieieer— let's now cross over to trafalgar square and speak to gb wews— trafalgar square and speak to gb news national— trafalgar square and speak to gb news national reporter paul wewiies. — news national reporter paul wewiies. set— news national reporter paul hawkins. so, paul, tell us a bit eeewi— hawkins. so, paul, tell us a bit eirewi ree— hawkins. so, paul, tell us a bit about the service— hawkins. so, paul, tell us a bit about the service and the ieeiiee— about the service and the feeling-ground- about the service and the feeling ground there . feeling on the ground there. veeir. — feeling on the ground there. veeir. ee— feeling on the ground there. veeir. se ree— feeling on the ground there. yeah. so the service finished eeeiee— yeah. so the service finished around about— yeah. so the service finished around about 12— yeah. so the service finished around about 12 £0.30 packed peepie— around about 12 £0.30 packed peepie irew— around about 12 £0.30 packed people from all— around about 12 £0.30 packed people from all across society eeeeeeiee— people from all across society connected to _ people from all across society connected to stephen lawrence. seepeee— connected to stephen lawrence. stephen lawrence's— connected to stephen lawrence. stephen lawrence's family,- connected to stephen lawrence. stephen lawrence's family, the stephen lawrence's family, the stephen lawrence's family, the stephen lawrence foundation and all connected through that ongoing campaign for justice all connected through that ongoing campaign forjustice and social justice, really. and to remember the life of stephen lawrence as well, and who he was r lawrence as well, and who he was , you know, an aspiring architect when he was murdered by a gang of racist thugs in 1993. but let's get a sense of

what the service itself was like. we can speak to caribbean artist trini boy who was in the memorial service today. artist trini boy who was in the memorial service today . trini, memorial service today. trini, boy, thanks for speaking to us. first of all, just tell us a little bit about the service. what was what was it like? thank you. thank you for having iie— thank you. thank you for having me. the service— thank you. thank you for having me. “g thank you. thank you for having. me. the service-amazing. you me. the service was amazing. you know, it highlighted know, i think it highlighted various emotions, severity various emotions, the severity of the situation and also how we should be looking at the future for moving forward. what can we iwpieweei— for moving forward. what can we implementhhat_ for moving forward. what can we implementhhat-do- for moving forward. what can we implementhhat-do to. implement, what can we do to iwpreve— implement, what can we do to iwpreve reei— implement, what can we do to improve that relationship with the improve that relationship with we peiiee. — improve that relationship with the police, the— improve that relationship with the police, the confidence in we— the police, the confidence in we sysiewt— the police, the confidence in the system, but— the police, the confidence in the system, but also to educate peepie— the system, but also to educate peepie .— the system, but also to educate peepie . yew— the system, but also to educate peepie . yew ieewt— the system, but also to educate people , you know, and empower people, you know, and empower the individuals— people, you know, and empower the individuals who were there to the individuals who were there re sey. — the individuals who were there re sey. weii— the individuals who were there re sey. weii. yew— the individuals who were there to say, well, you are here so you— to say, well, you are here so yew ee— to say, well, you are here so yew ireip— to say, well, you are here so you can help for— to say, well, you are here so you can help for this to bring eireeee— you can help for this to bring eeeepe. eee— you can help for this to bring change. and i'll— you can help for this to bring change. and i'll come on to we. — change. and i'll come on to we. wee— change. and i'll come on to that. who was— change. and i'll come on to that. “g “ change. and i'll come on to that. “g t“ that. who was speaking in the service? was there any music? what was the atmosphere like? so yeah, had there was various yeah, we had there was various choirs performing . it was choirs performing. it was sonically amazing,- ri.“ritr “g it was sonically amazing, beautiful ri.“ri.r “g it was sonically amazing, beautiful . sonically amazing, beautiful. iirere— sonically amazing, beautiful. iirere es— sonically amazing, beautiful. there was mps— sonically amazing, beautiful. there was mps there present the meyer— there was mps there present the iieyer ei— there was mps there present the mayor of london— there was mps there present the mayor of london was there. you ieewt— mayor of london was there. you ieewt ire— mayor of london was there. you ieewt ire seie— mayor of london was there. you know, he said a— mayor of london was there. you know, he said a fantastic speech wirieir— know, he said a fantastic speech wirieir i— know, he said a fantastic speech which i would— know, he said a fantastic speech which i would say,—

know, he said a fantastic speech which i would say, you know, is— which i would say, you know, is i— which i would say, you know, is i ireve— which i would say, you know, is i ireve e— which i would say, you know, it's i have a different respect for it's i have a different respect ier eiw.— it's i have a different respect ier iriw. rew— it's i have a different respect for him. you know, for him even eeiee— for him. you know, for him even eeiee irere— for him. you know, for him even eeiee irere-ie- for him. you know, for him even being here-to take- for him. you know, for him even being here to take time being here to show to take time out being here to show to take time err-seeeewiet— being here to show to take time out-schedule, to- being here to show to take time out schedule, to show , out of his schedule, to show, you— out of his schedule, to show, you-means a lot.- out of his schedule, to show, you means a lot. you out of his schedule, to show,- you-means a lot. you know. you know, means a lot. you know. eei— you know, means a lot. you know. we sir— you know, means a lot. you know. we sir weir— you know, means a lot. you know. and sir keir starmer— you know, means a lot. you know. and sir keir starmer was- you know, means a lot. you know. and sir keir starmer was there as labour leader. yeah as well. the labour leader. yeah i thought prime minister was i thought the prime minister was attending . but you're attending. but you're saying rishi there? no rishi sunak wasn't there? no and wasn't there unless he and he wasn't there unless he ires— and he wasn't there unless he ires e— and he wasn't there unless he ires e iwie— and he wasn't there unless he ires e we r— and he wasn't there unless he has a twin. i mean, the person wire—wire- has a twin. i mean, the person wire—wire wesi who represented him who was iirere— who represented him who was iirere es— who represented him who was iirere .— who represented him who was iirere . ii— who represented him who was there was , it wasn't him. so there was, it wasn't him. so eepeiwiiy— there was, it wasn't him. so hopefully everything is okay. i irepe— hopefully everything is okay. i irepe ire-s— hopefully everything is okay. i eepe ee-s eii— hopefully everything is okay. i hope he's all right, you know, eee— hope he's all right, you know, were i— hope he's all right, you know, were i irepe— hope he's all right, you know, were i eepe ire— hope he's all right, you know, and i hope he does send a esseee— and i hope he does send a essepe ie— and i hope he does send a message to the— and i hope he does send a message to the family, you know, to message to the family, you know, re reeiiy— message to the family, you know, re reeiiy eee— message to the family, you know, to really and you're— message to the family, you know, to really and you're 34 years old— to really and you're 34 years eie. se— to really and you're 34 years eie. se yew— to really and you're 34 years old, so you were— to really and you're 34 years old, so you were very young when siepiree— old, so you were very young when srepiree iiee— old, so you were very young when srepeee eiee . — old, so you were very young when stephen died . yeah.— old, so you were very young when stephen died . / old, so you were very young when stephen died . j/ritgj“ �*jgvj“g; : stephen died. yeah. what does he mean to you? i'm i think stephen died. j/ritgj“ �*jgvj“g; : pit;7 i'm i think that mean to you? i'm i think that iirer— mean to you? i'm i think that that situation— mean to you? i'm i think that that situation is— mean to you? i'm i think that that situation is a— mean to you? i'm i think that that situation is a is- that situation is a is a reflection,— that situation is a is a reflection, you know, 30 years on reflection, you know, 30 years ee ei— reflection, you know, 30 years ee ei iire— reflection, you know, 30 years on of the society— reflection, you know, 30 years on of the society we're living in. on of the society we're living ie. eee— on of the society we're living ie. eee ii-s— on of the society we're living in. and it's still— on of the society we're living in. and it's still a— on of the society we're living in. and it's still a reality , in. and it's still a reality, you— in. and it's still a reality, yew ieewt— in. and it's still a reality, you know, moving from the cerieeeee— you know, moving from the caribbean to— you know, moving from the caribbean to the uk, that was er— caribbean to the uk, that was ei iire— caribbean to the uk, that was one of the first— caribbean to the uk, that was one of the first situations i've ever been exposed to where . yew — ever been exposed to where racism , you know, it meant a lot

racism, you know, it meant a lot at racism, you know, it meant a lot er iire— racism, you know, it meant a lot er rire ewe.— racism, you know, it meant a lot er rire iiwe. ii— racism, you know, it meant a lot at the time. it was— racism, you know, it meant a lot at the time. it was very scary, i at the time. it was very scary, i wewir— at the time. it was very scary, i wewie sey. — at the time. it was very scary, i would say. but— at the time. it was very scary, i would say. but it's something iirer— i would say. but it's something we is— i would say. but it's something we is siiii— i would say. but it's something that is still present within our seeieiy— that is still present within our seeieiy. i— that is still present within our society. i mean,— that is still present within our society. i mean, we are more aware and alert,— society. i mean, we are more aware and alert, but has things eireeeeee— aware and alert, but has things eireepeee we— aware and alert, but has things eireepeee we r— aware and alert, but has things changed? no i think it needs to iwpreve— changed? no i think it needs to iwpreve e— changed? no i think it needs to iwpreve e ier— changed? no i think it needs to improve a lot more. ;; improve a lot more. still, were-s— improve a lot more. still, there's been— improve a lot more. still, there's been change, but there needs to be more. you're saying? yes, 100% and especially when it comes policing. i think. i comes to policing. i think. i think institutionally, you know , in-institution_ think institutionally, you know , in institution here within , in the institution here within the , in the institution here within ire-wiriie— , in the institution here within the within education, the police, within education, wiriie.— the police, within education, wiriie-.- the police, within education, within,-, various. within, you know, various iesiers— within, you know, various factors- society- within, you know, various factors society , we within, you know, various- factors-society , we have factors within society, we have an understanding _ factors within society, we have an understanding that , okay, we an understanding that, okay, we eeei— an understanding that, okay, we eeee ie— an understanding that, okay, we eeee re ire— an understanding that, okay, we need to be diverse— an understanding that, okay, we need to be diverse , we need to need to be diverse, we need to risi— need to be diverse, we need to iiei iire— need to be diverse, we need to tick the boxes. _ need to be diverse, we need to tick the boxes. but— need to be diverse, we need to tick the boxes. but really, are we eivee— tick the boxes. but really, are we eivee .— tick the boxes. but really, are we pivee . yew— tick the boxes. but really, are we given , you know, the we given, you know, the individuals— we given, you know, the individuals that that fear treatment?— individuals that that fear treatment? you know, and that's wirer— treatment? you know, and that's wirei were— treatment? you know, and that's what we're asking _ treatment? you know, and that's what we're asking for. you know, it's what we're asking for. you know, is resi— what we're asking for. you know, is iwsi iirer— what we're asking for. you know, it's just that that— what we're asking for. you know, it's just that that equal opportunity— it's just that that equal opportunity, you know, really eppreeieie— opportunity, you know, really eppreeiere yew— opportunity, you know, really appreciate you speaking to us. iieei— appreciate you speaking to us. week-se— appreciate you speaking to us. thank-so much.— appreciate you speaking to us. thank-so much. thank- appreciate you speaking to us. thank-so much. thank youi thank you so much. thank you very so, trini, boy, very much. so, trini, boy, there, caribbean one of there, caribbean artist, one of many were the many people who were at the memorial today. many people who were at the memorial today . they memorial service today. they there were actors. there were politicians, as you've just been heanng politicians, as you've just been hearing , as you know , hearing, as you know, representatives from all parts of society , motty and today

of society, motty and today wasn't just about remembering steven, aspiring artist, into his athletics, his music erg, but it was also about looking at the next 30 years ahead and how policing can improve, how the justice system can improve. now inequality in society can improve as well for young people, particularly from marginalised backgrounds. oh, thank you. paul hawkins- thank you. paul hawkins here. were— thank you. paul hawkins here. were re— thank you. paul hawkins here. were re iirer— thank you. paul hawkins here. here to that from _ thank you. paul hawkins here. here to that from trafalgar eeweie.— here to that from trafalgar eeweie. ewey— here to that from trafalgar square. okay following the werere— square. okay following the murder,lpublic- square. okay following the murder, public inquiry took murder, a public inquiry took piece— murder, a public inquiry took pieee ie— murder, a public inquiry took place in 1998,— murder, a public inquiry took place in 1998, led by sir wiiiiew— place in 1998, led by sir william macpherson. it's aim was to william macpherson. it's aim was re ievesiieeie— william macpherson. it's aim was to investigate the— william macpherson. it's aim was to investigate the original metropolitan— to investigate the original metropolitan police investigation into the death of siepiree— investigation into the death of srepeee iire— investigation into the death of stephen the macpherson report ieeee— stephen the macpherson report ieeee iirer— stephen the macpherson report found that the— stephen the macpherson report found that the police investigation was incompetent eee— investigation was incompetent eee iirer— investigation was incompetent and that-force— investigation was incompetent and that force itself was and that the force itself was institutionally _ and that the force itself was institutionally racist. and 20 veers— institutionally racist. and 20 yeers ewer— institutionally racist. and 20 years after the _ institutionally racist. and 20 years after the macpherson repewt— years after the macpherson report, baroness casey , who is report, baroness casey, who is ieeiiee— report, baroness casey, who is ieeiiep eeeie— report, baroness casey, who is looking again into the metropolitan police investigation into the murder of sereir— investigation into the murder of sarah everard— investigation into the murder of sarah everard ,— investigation into the murder of sarah everard , recently sarah everard, recently concluded _ sarah everard, recently concluded that the force is siiii— concluded that the force is still institutionally racist . still institutionally racist. weii— still institutionally racist. weii ieie — still institutionally racist. well, join me— still institutionally racist. well, join me now is leroy logan ope.— well, join me now is leroy logan eee e— well, join me now is leroy logan eee e reriree— well, join me now is leroy logan obe, a retired superintendent at the obe, a retired superintendent at we iiei. — obe, a retired superintendent at

we iiei. eee— obe, a retired superintendent at the met. and also— obe, a retired superintendent at the met. and also gave evidence at the met. and also gave evidence er iire— the met. and also gave evidence at the macpherson _ the met. and also gave evidence at the macpherson inquiry very warm. welcome— at the macpherson inquiry very warm. welcome to you, leroy. i'm a warm. welcome to you, leroy. i'm e ireee— warm. welcome to you, leroy. i'm eeepe eewiee— warm. welcome to you, leroy. i'm a huge admirer of— warm. welcome to you, leroy. i'm a huge admirer of the work yeve— a huge admirer of the work yeve eewe— a huge admirer of the work you've done over the years. on reis— you've done over the years. on iiris eey— you've done over the years. on iiris eey .— you've done over the years. on iiris eey . ee— you've done over the years. on this day , 30 years— you've done over the years. on this day , 30 years on, how does this day, 30 years on, how does it this day, 30 years on, how does i were— this day, 30 years on, how does ii weie yee— this day, 30 years on, how does it make you feel— this day, 30 years on, how does it make you feel to— this day, 30 years on, how does it make you feel to see that we reeiiy— it make you feel to see that we reeiiy irevee-i— it make you feel to see that we really haven't moved forward? iire— really haven't moved forward? iire cesey— really haven't moved forward? the casey report— really haven't moved forward? the casey report concluded eveeiiy— the casey report concluded eveeiiy iire— the casey report concluded exactly the same things as the erieieei— exactly the same things as the original macpherson report, wirieir— original macpherson report, wirieir i— original macpherson report, which i believe— original macpherson report, which i believe you contributed re. — which i believe you contributed ie. wee.— which i believe you contributed ie. we r— which i believe you contributed to. well, i feel— which i believe you contributed to. well, i feel very- to. well, i feel very disappointed and very angry that we're still talking about these issues 30 years after the death of stephen lawrence. in fact, it was the same month and year we set up the black police association to improve the culture of the of the police service in the met and improve relations with the community. obe and we had to give evidence at the macpherson inquiry into the death of stephen lawrence at 25 years ago and, and we thought we'd really see the culture change that was going to be permanent. we saw the recommendations that came out in

the report in 99 and the independent oversight of the recommendations primarily by the stephen lawrence steering group, chaired by jack straw and the parents of stephen lawrence and neville and doreen lawrence , neville and doreen lawrence, seemed to have that really significant impact because i was part of that group in the early stages as the national black police association chair. and we got more accountability , more got more accountability, more transparency. chief constables were being held to account by the home secretary, given the independent oversight and of course given real importance to equality, diversity, inclusion . equality, diversity, inclusion. unfortunately, things have unravelled over the last 13 years. since 2010, the independent oversight has gone and chief constables are right right in their own homework and the results speak for themselves. okay, laura leroy, both stephen's parents have spoken this week. his father,

weviiie. — spoken this week. his father, neville, said— spoken this week. his father, neville, said he— spoken this week. his father, neville, said he will- “ his father, neville, said he will never iereive— neville, said he will never ierpive iire— neville, said he will never forgive the metropolitan police. siepiree-s— forgive the metropolitan police. stephen's mother, baroness eereee— stephen's mother, baroness doreen lawrence, said it's not a ei— doreen lawrence, said it's not a ei e— doreen lawrence, said it's not a ei e iew— doreen lawrence, said it's not a case of a few bad— doreen lawrence, said it's not a case of a few bad apples within the case of a few bad apples within iire iiei. — case of a few bad apples within iire iiei. ii-s— case of a few bad apples within the met. it's rotten— case of a few bad apples within the met. it's rotten to the ee— the met. it's rotten to the ee yee— the met. it's rotten to the core. do you still believe that yeerseii— core. do you still believe that yeerseii e — core. do you still believe that yourself ? well,— core. do you still believe that yourself ? well, i- core. do you still believe that yourself ? �*jgerit;; c core. do you still believe that yourself ? �*jgerit;; ; yourself? well, i believe it was rotten to the core. i used to think that there's nothing wrong with the met. that can't be resolved by what's good in it. with the right ethical leadership, the independent oversight from the government and a culture change that allows the good cops to call out the bad cops. not withstanding the systemic failures of institutional racism, but unfortunately, how toxic the culture has become, especially what's been highlighted by the casey report only a few weeks ago , is showing that it's ago, is showing that it's a really hostile place to work in and, of course, members of the pubuc and, of course, members of the public see that hostility when it comes to stop and search and the excessive use of violence in in police contact with the black

community, especially if they're suffering from mental health issues . so we're seeing the met issues. so we're seeing the met police has a look and feel of a pre macpherson era , which pre macpherson era, which saddens me to say, but say it because of the way in which people believe they're overpoliced and under—protected and things are not improving in the way they expected from 25 years ago when the report was published and 30 years ago when stephen was murdered by race thugs. okay, leroy , you've been thugs. okay, leroy, you've been described as one of the black officers who helped to change the mat for a positive force for good. yet you decided to leave the good. yet you decided to leave iire ierwe — good. yet you decided to leave iire ierwe wiry— good. yet you decided to leave the force. why did— 3: yet you decided to leave the force. why did you leave the iereee— the force. why did you leave the fewer eee— the force. why did you leave the force? and would _ the force. why did you leave the force? and would it— the force. why did you leave the force? and would it not be ireiier— force? and would it not be eerier ier— force? and would it not be better for you— force? and would it not be better for you to stay and reerwr— better for you to stay and reerwi iire— better for you to stay and reform the force from within in. weii— reform the force from within in. weii i— reform the force from within in. weii i eie— reform the force from within in. weii i did ze— reform the force from within in. well, i did 20 odd— reform the force from within in. well, i did 20 odd years of reierwiee— well, i did 20 odd years of reforming the— well, i did 20 odd years of reforming the force from within. i reforming the force from within. i eie— reforming the force from within. i did wy— reforming the force from within. i did my ee— reforming the force from within. i did my ee veers— reforming the force from within. i did my 30 years in— reforming the force from within. i did my 30 years in the- reforming the force from within. 30 t“ i did my 30 years in the met, and i wanted to do something that i believe i could continue doing under my own steam. um and

i think it's good to understand when you finish something and you continue on, but public service for me doesn't just switch off like a tap. i'm still involved in, um, public work , involved in, um, public work, mainly through the charity sector , so i'm still an active sector, so i'm still an active advocate for change. and i find that my influence is, especially since a my autobiography, closing ranks and the film made about me by steve mcqueen has given me a platform in my own right to challenge the organisation. and i want to work with people and collaborate and i'm still doing that. and and assisting people to feel they can challenge the police service and they can then feel a sense of justice because even today, neville lawrence is saying he doesn't fully believe he's had justice because there's three outstanding young suspects. um,

for the murder of his son. and he wants to know that the met police are doing the right thing to get them. and also, all the other sort of underlying issues that we're investigating the family while they were pursuing justice. so, you know, these are sort of things that are still going on. a lot of people are still going through these issues. and we cannot allow it to and we need to continue. and we need accountability and transparency in the met and other police services so that people believe that the police service is there by consent, which is the cornerstone of police legitimacy , policing by consent and having the confidence of the public. leroy, if the case of report is eesieeiiy— leroy, if the case of report is basically concluded, the exact the basically concluded, the exact we see— basically concluded, the exact the same thing— basically concluded, the exact the same thing as the original reperit— the same thing as the original reperi. wirer— the same thing as the original report, what do— the same thing as the original report, what do we need to do to fix report, what do we need to do to ix reis— report, what do we need to do to is we se— report, what do we need to do to fix this so we're— report, what do we need to do to fix this so we're not— report, what do we need to do to fix this so we're not here in 30 veers— fix this so we're not here in 30 yeers iiwe— fix this so we're not here in 30 years time having— fix this so we're not here in 30 years time having the same eeveseieer— years time having the same conversation do conversation once again. what do we—iiere— conversation once again. what do we—iieie weii- conversation once again. what do we_met? well, as. we do to fix the met? well, as i seie— we do to fix the met? well, as i seie. iw— we do to fix the met? well, as i said, i'm really— we do to fix the met? well, as i said, i'm really angry that siiii— said, i'm really angry that we're still talking about this. we we're still talking about this. we eeei— we're still talking about this. we need-ethical— we're still talking about this. we need an ethical leadership. as already said , we need

as i've already said, we need the commissioner, another chief constable, recognise and fully accept that the institutional racism is there because it's only when you acknowledge something you'll do something about it. because i was in the room the macpherson report room when the macpherson report was published in february 99th. i was in the room when sir paul condon, who was the commissioner at the time , accepted the at the time, accepted the institutional racism and he saw it as an aspiration to do good, to do better , and to prove to do better, and to prove people wrong, to say, listen , people wrong, to say, listen, the police can get through this barrier and can be a service and not an occupying force. and as i said, we saw culture change that first ten years with the independent independent oversight by the stephen lawrence steering group . so lawrence steering group. so i just want to see that repeat it. we need mark rowley to acknowledge institutional racism, but because he hasn't got the political pressure from the home secretary suella braverman and she basically allowing him to say, well, i don't accept it. i know the

chief constable of carried on. we're at a stalemate and we're not going to see the improvements. and because it actually helps officers who have got the wrong reason for joining the met police by saying, well, i'm not institutionally racist . i'm not institutionally racist. i'm not institutionally racist. i can do what i used to do, i'm unaccountable and i've be defensive. and it's just a toxic snowballing effect. and that's what we're seeing . so i want to what we're seeing. so i want to see all that stop . and i want to see all that stop. and i want to see all that stop. and i want to see the home office doing what they're supposed to do. okay. leroy logan , thank-very. they're supposed to do. okay.- leroy logan , thank-very much leroy logan, thank you very much for-impassioned— for that impassioned speech reeey—ee- for that impassioned speech ieeey—ee iirisi today for joining us on this momentous you very today for joining us on this momeiand; you very today for joining us on this momeiand the you very today for joining us on this momeiand the metropolitan you very much. and the metropolitan reiiee— much. and the metropolitan reiiee ireve— much. and the metropolitan police have released a statement irew— police have released a statement from commissioner— police have released a statement from commissioner sir mark rowley,— from commissioner sir mark rowley, which— from commissioner sir mark rowley, which says, 30 years on irew — rowley, which says, 30 years on irew srepiree— rowley, which says, 30 years on from stephen lawrence's murder, this from stephen lawrence's murder, iiris weweei— from stephen lawrence's murder, this moment-us- from stephen lawrence's murder, this moment-us to- this moment prompts us to reiieei— this moment prompts us to reflect honestly— this moment prompts us to reflect honestly on how policing has reflect honestly on how policing ees respeeeee— reflect honestly on how policing has responded .the - reflect honestly on how policing has responded the necessary has responded to the necessary eeiis— has responded to the necessary eeiisleireeee— has responded to the necessary calls-change-have- calls for change that have peeereeree— calls for change that have punctuated the past three eeeeees. — punctuated the past three decades. while we have made prepress— decades. while we have made prepress ii— decades. while we have made progress, it isn't— decades. while we have made progress, it isn't enough . we've progress, it isn't enough. we've let progress, it isn't enough. we've ier irieei— progress, it isn't enough. we've let black communities down, and i let black communities down, and i eee— let black communities down, and i eee iire— let black communities down, and i eee iire eeei— let black communities down, and i and the good majority of eiiieers— i and the good majority of officers are _ i and the good majority of officers are resolved to finally wewe— officers are resolved to finally

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course. well of- court of human rights, of course. well of course, this resi— course. well of course, this comes just after- course. well of course, this comes just after a year since iire— comes just after a year since the government's— comes just after a year since the government's £140 million ieweeee— the government's £140 million rwanda deportation scheme was eeeeeeeee eee— rwanda deportation scheme was announced, and in— rwanda deportation scheme was announced, and in that time, precise— announced, and in that time, preeise eeiy— announced, and in that time, precise only zero— announced, and in that time, precise only zero people have seeeessieiiy— precise only zero people have successfully been deported from the successfully been deported from iire eeeerry— successfully been deported from iire eeeerry .— successfully been deported from the country . well,— successfully been deported from the country . well, joining me the country. well, joining me is— the country. well, joining me now is international human rieiris— now is international human ripers iewyer— now is international human rights lawyer david. hey, hello iirere.— rights lawyer david. hey, hello iirere. eewei— rights lawyer david. hey, hello there, david. so— rights lawyer david. hey, hello there, david. so talk us through reis— there, david. so talk us through this breakthrough. a lot of peepie— this breakthrough. a lot of peepie eer— this breakthrough. a lot of people out there with, again, some common— people out there with, again, some common sense prevailing at iesi— some common sense prevailing at iesr . — some common sense prevailing at iesr . wee.— some common sense prevailing at iesr . weii. iie— some common sense prevailing at last . well, it's the— some common sense prevailing at last . well, it's the never- last. well, it's the never ending. good afternoon, martin. it's a never ending think story of it's a never ending think story ei iire— it's a never ending think story ei iire iery— it's a never ending think story of the tory party's attempts to wie— of the tory party's attempts to wie veies— of the tory party's attempts to win votes effectively by appealing— win votes effectively by appealing to- win votes effectively by appealing to their voter base eee— appealing to their voter base eee reis— appealing to their voter base eee we is— appealing to their voter base and this is another example i see where we've— and this is another example i see where we've got. 39“ see where we've got. rishi sunak has been accused of essentially giving in to the party and putting party before country . putting party before country. and i think the situation here, i mean, we've discussed, you know, before with gb news, the human rights issues of the actual policy. but here now what we're seeing is basically a government saying that in certain circumstances it will be fine for ministers to ignore

courts. so effectively abusing the rule of law. and i think that's a very , very slippery that's a very, very slippery slope to go down. and i think that's one that is worrying many, many people . only recently many, many people. only recently we saw the former lord chief justice, and that's the lord chief justice, someone who is in charge of courts england, charge of the courts of england, not courts , not the strasbourg courts, again, saying is again, saying that this is a very, very dangerous thing to do. it sets a very bad example . do. it sets a very bad example. and i think this is one of the things that we need to really be concerned about so that by concerned about. so that by saying they're very concerned that strasbourg erg, the european union , the echr has the european union, the echr has the power to overturn british law. but into the detail of this law, is ir— but into the detail of this law, is i eeieeiiy— but into the detail of this law, is it actually going to have any were— is it actually going to have any teeth? because— is it actually going to have any teeth? because there is still a eiese— teeth? because there is still a is ie— teeth? because there is still a clause in this— teeth? because there is still a clause in this law,— teeth? because there is still a clause in this law, isn't there, iirer— clause in this law, isn't there, we ii— clause in this law, isn't there, that if people's— clause in this law, isn't there, that if people's lives are in iwwieeei— that if people's lives are in imminent danger, then they will not imminent danger, then they will eei ee— imminent danger, then they will eei ire eeie— imminent danger, then they will not be able to— imminent danger, then they will not be able to be— imminent danger, then they will not be able to be deported. and sereiy— not be able to be deported. and sereiy iirer— not be able to be deported. and surely that means— not be able to be deported. and surely that means a lot of peepie— surely that means a lot of peepie resi— surely that means a lot of people just say, well, my life is ie— people just say, well, my life is in imminent— people just say, well, my life is in imminent danger. does this law is in imminent danger. does this iew-eey— is in imminent danger. does this iew-eey fewes— is in imminent danger. does this iew-eey ieees er- is in imminent danger. does this law-any fangs or is- is in imminent danger. does this law any fangs or is it yet law have any fangs or is it yet more _from the - law have any fangs or is it yet more from the tories law have any fangs or is it yet. more _from the tories ?

more posturing from the tories? weii— more posturing from the tories? weii i— more posturing from the tories? weii i ririei— more posturing from the tories? well, i think undoubtedly you're going— well, i think undoubtedly you're eeiee ie— well, i think undoubtedly you're going re see— well, i think undoubtedly you're going to see more— well, i think undoubtedly you're going to see more and more court eeie—eps— going to see more and more court ireii—eps ee— going to see more and more court hold—ups on this,— going to see more and more court hold—ups on this, quite rightly. reev— hold—ups on this, quite rightly. veev resi— hold—ups on this, quite rightly. you've just said— hold—ups on this, quite rightly. you've just said that— hold—ups on this, quite rightly. you've just said that that- hold—ups on this, quite rightly. you've just said that that law will include effectively a very similar phrase to what you need to use in the first place to install an order 39 order. so you , you know, you need to show you, you know, you need to show effectively very similar language to that and to get that order from strasbourg in the first so you know, you're first place. so you know, you're going to have very two different situations. that situations. and i imagine that even pass, which i'm even if it does pass, which i'm sure will eventually sure it probably will eventually after gets the house after it gets through the house of it is still going to of lords, it is still going to get stuck in courts. but the point is the danger, i point here is the danger, i think, of a government, any government enabling ministers to set aside the rule of law . if set aside the rule of law. if the minister decides because where does that end? and i think that's the really concerning start. and when you've got former lord chief justices standing up and saying this is not what we should be doing effectively and this is a this is a very slippery slope . you is a very slippery slope. you know, something i know, that's something that i think us need to look at, think all of us need to look at, because it's not just an issue

of of the of the human rights of the people coming country people coming into the country illegally. could that illegally. it's where could that possibly if want leave possibly go if we want to leave the european court of human rights, then let's leave it. let's one foot in and let's not have one foot in and one foot out and ignore its orders when we choose to because what happens process what happens if that process then trickles down to our own courts here in england and the wider uk? i think it's a very dangerous slope to ignore the rule of law . i mean, what's rule of law. i mean, what's happening— rule of law. i mean, what's happening-tbis- rule of law. i mean, what's happening-this is- rule of law. i mean, what's happening-this is a. i mean, what's happening this is a bit rule of law. i mean, what's. happening-this is a bit of happening here, this is a bit of ieeei— happening here, this is a bit of ieeei-ise-i- happening here, this is a bit of ieeei-ise-i ir- happening here, this is a bit of ieeei-ise-i ii .- happening here, this is a bit of legal-isn't it , to. legal chicanery, isn't it, to wy— legal chicanery, isn't it, to iry eee— legal chicanery, isn't it, to try and circumnavigate the echr. but try and circumnavigate the echr. eerlyee— try and circumnavigate the echr. eerlyee iiriei— try and circumnavigate the echr. but-you think that— try and circumnavigate the echr. but you think that the but do you think that the eriiisir— but do you think that the british judicial system will go wirireer— british judicial system will go wiiireei e— british judicial system will go without a fight— british judicial system will go without a fight on this? we've ie iire— without a fight on this? we've seen in the .huge - without a fight on this? we've seen in the huge defences seen in the past huge defences eeeiesi— seen in the past huge defences against brexit,— seen in the past huge defences against brexit, for— seen in the past huge defences against brexit, for example . how against brexit, for example. how do against brexit, for example. how we yee— against brexit, for example. how we yee iiriei— against brexit, for example. how do you think the— against brexit, for example. how do you think the legal institution— do you think the legal institution will take this? iirey-ve— institution will take this? they've still— institution will take this? they've still got some in they've still got some fight in iirew. — they've still got some fight in iirew. eevie— they've still got some fight in them. david you're always going to them. david you're always going ie-yee-re— them. david you're always going ie-yee-re eiweys— them. david you're always going to you're always going to to see you're always going to see—es- to see you're always going toi seethis,_as soon to see you're always going toi seethis, if_as soon to see you're always going to seethis, if this as soon to see you're always going to seethis, if this law as soon to see you're always going to seethis, if this law getsis soon as this, if this law gets pesseet— as this, if this law gets passed,-will- passed, you will see organisations, ngos, certain types_ organisations, ngos, certain . iypes—iewyers types of human rights lawyers eee—iewyers- and immigration lawyers eeeiieepiep— and immigration lawyers- challenging—going and immigration lawyers- challenging_going to challenging it. you are going to see it's obviously what see that it's obviously what interpretation that and the interpretation of that and the judgements our our english judgements that our our english judges going to judges make and it's going to get delayed. and i've said it

before, don't see any if before, i don't see any if certainly not very many people going back to rwanda or wherever it may be these new it may be under these new policies. and i think the reality is, know, the reality is, you know, the conservative know that conservative party know that they you know, this they are looking you know, this is is about winning is this is about winning votes. this appeasing people. this is about appeasing people. probably local probably ahead of the local elections . and think elections. and i think realistically, knowing that we've a general election we've got a general election coming going coming is this going to get through? gets through, through? and if it gets through, is really going to get is it not really going to get stuck like rwanda stuck up in courts like rwanda as a year since rwanda as it's over a year since rwanda now and no one's gone there. so i it is a lot of political i think it is a lot of political gesturing. but if we pass it, it's slippery and we it's a slippery slope and we need very careful about need to be very careful about that david. human that. okay, david. hey, human rieiris— that. okay, david. hey, human ripers iewyer— that. okay, david. hey, human rights lawyer,-you- rights lawyer, thank you for ieieiee— rights lawyer, thank you for ieieiee-iive- rights lawyer, thank you for joining live from joining us today live from cereweii. — joining us today live from cornwall. have- joining us today live from cornwall. have a great day . on cornwall. have a great day. on to cornwall. have a great day. on re eer— cornwall. have a great day. on re eewi— cornwall. have a great day. on to our next story— cornwall. have a great day. on to our next story now. and as you— to our next story now. and as yee eeeie— to our next story now. and as yee eeere ie— to our next story now. and as you heard in the— to our next story now. and as you heard in the news there, sereiy.— you heard in the news there, sadly, australian _ you heard in the news there, sadly, australian entertainer eerry— sadly, australian entertainer- eerry—reeeweee barry humphries, who is renowned for—everage] for playing dame edna everage, has for playing dame edna everage, ires—ie- has died in hospital in australia— has died in hospital in australia aged 89. as dame edna, he australia aged 89. as dame edna, ire ieiiirreree— australia aged 89. as dame edna, he infiltrated the— australia aged 89. as dame edna, he infiltrated the royal box , he infiltrated the royal box, ieeviee— he infiltrated the royal box, ieeviep iire— he infiltrated the royal box, leaving the then prince charles eee— leaving the then prince charles eee cewiiie— leaving the then prince charles and camilla in— leaving the then prince charles and camilla in absolute eysreries.— and camilla in absolute hysterics. joining me now is reyei— hysterics. joining me now is reyei eee— hysterics. joining me now is royal and showbiz journalist

serei— royal and showbiz journalist sarah louise— royal and showbiz journalist sarah louise robertson , who's sarah louise robertson, who's eeieeiiy— sarah louise robertson, who's eeieeiiy wei— sarah louise robertson, who's actually met the— sarah louise robertson, who's actually met the legend. so so, so, actually met the legend. so so, serei— actually met the legend. so so, so, sarah louise,— actually met the legend. so so, so, sarah louise, tell us about iire— so, sarah louise, tell us about iire weweer— so, sarah louise, tell us about the moment you _ so, sarah louise, tell us about the moment you met the legend . the moment you met the legend. hi the moment you met the legend. wi iirere— the moment you met the legend. wi iirere . — the moment you met the legend. wi iirere . se— the moment you met the legend. hi there . so nice— the moment you met the legend. hi there . so nice to— the moment you met the legend. hi there . t“ viii; hi there. so nice to see you. martin it's a sad day to day for me. yes. martin it's a sad day to day for me. yes . barry burst into me. yes. barry burst into a eewiee— me. yes. barry burst into a pereee perry.— yes. barry burst into a garden party, wasn't at it? wewsier— garden party, wasn't at it? wewsier .— garden party, wasn't at it? hamster , and— garden party, wasn't at it? hamster , and described herself hamster, and described herself as a walking aphid. as you can see from his outfit that he was wearing there. he was dressed in green and pink , was wearing a green and pink, was wearing a pink blazer. and he was full of eewpiiweeis. — pink blazer. and he was full of compliments. kiss— pink blazer. and he was full of compliments. kiss my- and he was full of compliments. “gj“r: gj“r: compliments. kiss my hand and was just every bit as adorable as as you would hope and expect. i mean, he's one of my comedic irerees— i mean, he's one of my comedic irerees .— i mean, he's one of my comedic irerees . se— i mean, he's one of my comedic heroes . so getting— i mean, he's one of my comedic heroes . so getting to spend that heroes. so getting to spend that eveeiee— heroes. so getting to spend that eveeiee wire— heroes. so getting to spend that evening with him— heroes. so getting to spend that evening with him was an unforgettable— evening with him was an unforgettable memory. and he ieiiee— unforgettable memory. and he ieiiee e— unforgettable memory. and he ieiiee e ier— unforgettable memory. and he talked a lot about where he got his talked a lot about where he got iris eeerey— talked a lot about where he got his eeerey irew— talked a lot about where he got his energy from at— talked a lot about where he got his energy from at the time. he seie— his energy from at the time. he seie ir— his energy from at the time. he seie ii es— his energy from at the time. he said it was growing up in aesrreiie— said it was growing up in australia and— said it was growing up in australia and that his parents eeie-i— australia and that his parents ireee-i ieee— australia and that his parents hadn't done a— australia and that his parents hadn't done a lot— australia and that his parents hadn't done a lot of things right— hadn't done a lot of things .rgrp, irer— hadn't done a lot of things right, but they— hadn't done a lot of things right, but they must have done seweiiriee— right, but they must have done something right— right, but they must have done something right and he something right there. and he very— something right there. and he very wry— something right there. and he very wry eee— something right there. and he was very wry and very droll as, as was very wry and very droll as, es yee— was very wry and very droll as, as you can imagine . and he was as you can imagine. and he was resi— as you can imagine. and he was iesi e— as you can imagine. and he was just a wonderful— as you can imagine. and he was just a wonderful ,— as you can imagine. and he was just a wonderful , wonderful just a wonderful, wonderful persee— just a wonderful, wonderful persee ie—

just a wonderful, wonderful persee re ire— just a wonderful, wonderful person to be to— just a wonderful, wonderful person to be to be in his eewpeey— person to be to be in his eewpeey. eee- person to be to be in his company. and as i said before, a wee— company. and as i said before, a iree wewerie— company. and as i said before, a true comedic genius and a trailblazer_ true comedic genius and a trailblazer who— true comedic genius and a trailblazer who can forget dame ieee— trailblazer who can forget dame ieee ivereee— trailblazer who can forget dame edna everage. those quips that he edna everage. those quips that ire eeeie— edna everage. those quips that ire weeie sey— edna everage. those quips that he would say, especially about the he would say, especially about iire reyeis— he would say, especially about we reyeis ire— he would say, especially about the royals, he made one to me as weii— the royals, he made one to me as weii. ir— the royals, he made one to me as weii. ii es— the royals, he made one to me as weii. ii resi— the royals, he made one to me as well. it was just before we iesi. — well. it was just before we iesi. we— well. it was just before we lost. we lost— well. it was just before we lost. we lost our queen and he iireeiee— lost. we lost our queen and he iireeiee iire— lost. we lost our queen and he thanked the queen for a beautiful— thanked the queen for a beautiful present, which was an old beautiful present, which was an eie see— beautiful present, which was an old crown that— beautiful present, which was an old crown that dame edna never eee— old crown that dame edna never were i— old crown that dame edna never wears. and it was— old crown that dame edna never wears. and it was those sort of ieies— wears. and it was those sort of ieies iirer— wears. and it was those sort of ieies iirei ire— wears. and it was those sort of jokes that he would just tell eee— jokes that he would just tell eee ire— jokes that he would just tell eee ire resi— jokes that he would just tell and he just said— jokes that he would just tell and he just said in his special way— and he just said in his special wey iirer— and he just said in his special way that would— and he just said in his special way that would just have you wire— way that would just have you wiiir reers— way that would just have you with tears running down your iese— with tears running down your iese ei— with tears running down your face of laughter— with tears running down your face of laughter . with tears running down your face of laughter. and he will be a face of laughter. and he will be e reei— face of laughter. and he will be e reei. reei— face of laughter. and he will be a real, real, real— face of laughter. and he will be a real, real, real miss. '“r: a real, real, real miss. and serei— a real, real, real miss. and seree ieeise— a real, real, real miss. and sarah louise, not in your favourite, but one of now king charles's favourite , of course, charles's favourite, of course, by royal approval . i suspect a by royal approval. i suspect a lot of people will be going to youtube now, searching out that infamous clip on the balcony . infamous clip on the balcony. oh, yes, absolutely . and asked oh, yes, absolutely. and asked him as oh, yes, absolutely. and asked iriw es weii— oh, yes, absolutely. and asked him as well, martin,- cj“ pit9 and asked him as well, martin, when i was speeiiee— him as well, martin, when i was speeiiep ie— him as well, martin, when i was speeiiep re rpm,— him as well, martin, when i was speaking to him, whether he iireeeiri— speaking to him, whether he ieeepiri iris— speaking to him, whether he thought his his— speaking to him, whether he thought his his native australia eeeie— thought his his native australia weeie 90— thought his his native australia would go republic and he said eee— would go republic and he said eee reis— would go republic and he said eee we is— would go republic and he said and this is just—

would go republic and he said and this is just to— would go republic and he said and this is just to quote him, he and this is just to quote him, ire seie— and this is just to quote him, he said, look,— and this is just to quote him, he said, look, i— and this is just to quote him, he said, look, i think the peeiis— he said, look, i think the peiriis ee— he said, look, i think the public are pro—monarchy it's eeiy— public are pro—monarchy it's eeiy e— public are pro—monarchy it's eeiy e iew— public are pro—monarchy it's only a few lunatic politicians. eee— only a few lunatic politicians. eee iire— only a few lunatic politicians. eee iire resi— only a few lunatic politicians. and the fact is,— only a few lunatic politicians. and the fact is, if— only a few lunatic politicians. and the fact is, if it did eesewe— and the fact is, if it did eesewe e— and the fact is, if it did become a republic , i'd hate to become a republic, i'd hate to week— become a republic, i'd hate to iiriei wire— become a republic, i'd hate to think who would— become a republic, i'd hate to think who would become the presieeei. — think who would become the president. and— think who would become the president. and that was barry wewpirries— president. and that was barry wewperies er— president. and that was barry humphries or maybe dame edna ivereee-s— humphries or maybe dame edna everage's words— humphries or maybe dame edna everage's words on— humphries or maybe dame edna everage's words on on his seeeiryt— everage's words on on his country, australia, his homeland,- country, australia, his homeland, on whether, you know, reey— homeland, on whether, you know, iirey ever— homeland, on whether, you know, they ever would _ homeland, on whether, you know, they ever would want to go isepeiriis— they ever would want to go isepeiriis .— they ever would want to go republic . and— they ever would want to go republic . and i'd like to think republic. and i'd like to think ire-s— republic. and i'd like to think ire-s ire-s— republic. and i'd like to think ire-s ire-s eeei— republic. and i'd like to think he's he's right he was just he resi— he's he's right he was just he was just absolutely brilliant. eee— was just absolutely brilliant. eee wirer— was just absolutely brilliant. eee wirei i— was just absolutely brilliant. and what i loved as well was how eewe— and what i loved as well was how eewe re— and what i loved as well was how eewe re eerie— and what i loved as well was how down to earth he— and what i loved as well was how down to earth he was . i mean, he down to earth he was. i mean, he ieee— down to earth he was. i mean, he ieew ire— down to earth he was. i mean, he ieew ire es— down to earth he was. i mean, he knew he was the— down to earth he was. i mean, he knew he was the big— down to earth he was. i mean, he knew he was the big star at at iirer— knew he was the big star at at we eewiee— knew he was the big star at at that garden party.— knew he was the big star at at that garden party. but he he resi— that garden party. but he he iese reeiiy— that garden party. but he he just really played himself down in just really played himself down ie eee— just really played himself down ie eee es— just really played himself down ie eee very— just really played himself down in and was very humble, very eeweie— in and was very humble, very ireweie eee— in and was very humble, very humble and very— in and was very humble, very humble and very interested in, you— humble and very interested in, yee er— humble and very interested in, you or pretending— humble and very interested in, you or pretending to be, you ieee.— you or pretending to be, you ieewt very— you or pretending to be, you know, very politely. and the way he know, very politely. and the way ire eie— know, very politely. and the way ire eie ii. — know, very politely. and the way ire eie ii. eei— know, very politely. and the way he did it. but he— know, very politely. and the way he did it. but he just felt like he did it. but he just felt like ire ire— he did it. but he just felt like ire ire es— he did it. but he just felt like he he was one— he did it. but he just felt like he he was one of— he did it. but he just felt like he he was one of you that you seeie— he he was one of you that you seeie ieii— he he was one of you that you could talk to _ he he was one of you that you could talk to him _ he he was one of you that you could talk to him about, about eeveiee.— could talk to him about, about eeyreiep. eee— could talk to him about, about anything. and he— could talk to him about, about anything. and he even joked, he seys— anything. and he even joked, he seys-ieee— anything. and he even joked, he seys-ieew-eey- anything. and he even joked, he says-know-any of. says, don't know who any of ieese— says, don't know who any of iirese peepie— says, don't know who any of these people are— says, don't know who any of these people are at these iiierery—

these people are at these literary events. - these people are at these literary events. you know, i'd ire.— literary events. you know, i'd be wes— literary events. you know, i'd be wes-iirer- literary events. you know, i'd be. was-that he. literary events. you know, i'd. be. was-that he used be. was the words that he used to be. was the words that he used ie-ie— be. was the words that he used ie-ie-iiie- be. was the words that he used to-to-like all- be. was the words that he used to-to-like all the. to me as to who like all the ewer— to me as to who like all the eiirer peesrs— to me as to who like all the other guests were. but he did ieee— other guests were. but he did ieew wire— other guests were. but he did know who they— other guests were. but he did know who they were. he was just eirvieesiy— know who they were. he was just obviously adlibbing and poking fun obviously adlibbing and poking iee ei— obviously adlibbing and poking fun at himself.— obviously adlibbing and poking fun at himself. and as i say, resi— fun at himself. and as i say, iesi ee— fun at himself. and as i say, just an absolute— fun at himself. and as i say, just an absolute great, great seweieee — just an absolute great, great comedian. okay.- just an absolute great, great comedian. (jr/{ear just an absolute great, great comedian. t“ comedian. okay. sarah louise robertson , thank you for sharing robertson, thank you for sharing that. and i suspect they're going to need a lot more gladioli to with gladioli to cope with the funeral coming ahead. thank you very much for insights. very much for your insights. that moment. and that was a wonderful moment. and it's from beyond it's making us laugh from beyond the grave there by calling australian lunatics. the grave there by calling austrayou're lunatics. the grave there by calling austrayou're watching.unatics. okay. you're watching and listening news saturday listening to gb news saturday with martin daubney. lots with me, martin daubney. lots more today's show. more to come on today's show. next, premier league club next, all premier league club badges racist. the two manchester football clubs have come under fire after research found that their club badges had links slave trade. so links to the slave trade. so should get their badges should they get their badges changed or is the woke mob going too after that? ellen musk's too far after that? ellen musk's spacex starship , the world's spacex starship, the world's biggest rocket, blew up on thursday shortly after its launch. thursday shortly after its launch . but is it all bad news launch. but is it all bad news that it blew up? i'll be speaking to space experts. andy lounge to get all the latest on

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we saw as the days went on this week. it was an article by a irisieriee— week. it was an article by a historian in— week. it was an article by a historian in the— it was an article by a historian in the guardian. the see— historian in the guardian. the see irree— historian in the guardian. the sun then blew— historian in the guardian. the sun then blew it— historian in the guardian. the sun then blew it up and put it on sun then blew it up and put it ee weir— sun then blew it up and put it ee iireir ee— sun then blew it up and put it on their on their— sun then blew it up and put it on their on their front page. to be on their on their front page. to ee-eei— on their on their front page. to ee-eei-peepie- on their on their front page. to be not people agree be fair, not many people agree wire—ei-eil with the sentiment of the of the irisieriee. — with the sentiment of the of the historian-people- with the sentiment of the of the historian. people flew historian. most people flew eeeiesi— historian. most people flew eeeiesi ii.— historian. most people flew against it. and— historian. most people flew against it. and i think you have to-manchester_ against it. and i think you have to-manchester city- against it. and i think you have to manchester city and to give manchester city and iieesiresier— to give manchester city and manchester some credit manchester united some credit irere— here because this nonsense is. eever—eeeiiee never really going to be quelled eies— never really going to be quelled eeiess-eei— never really going to be quelled unless-not talking- never really going to be quelled unless not talking about unless and i'm not talking about ei— unless and i'm not talking about issues of what— unless and i'm not talking about issues of what we're talk about irere.— issues of what we're talk about irere-ieiiiee— issues of what we're talk about here. talking about general here. i'm talking about general seri— here. i'm talking about general sew er— here. i'm talking about general sew ei eeie— here. i'm talking about general sort of woke issues. they're not going— going to be quelled unless our big—big- big organisations are big institutions— big organisations are big institutions like manchester cry,— institutions like manchesteri wiry—eeiee city, like manchester united, sreee— city, like manchester united, sweii—sewe- city, like manchester united,- stand_some backbone. stand up and show some backbone. they— stand up and show some backbone. iirey—iiris- they didn't even dignify this wire— they didn't even dignify this withlresponse,_ they didn't even dignify this with response, possibly with a response, possibly iresese— with a response, possibly. because—point with a response, possibly- because_point of because from united's point of view— because from united's point of view, especially,— because from united's point of view, especially, it would be commercially— view, especially, it would be commercially-to l view, especially, it would be commercially to go commercially foolhardy to go eeewe— commercially foolhardy to go ereeee-yeer- commercially foolhardy to go - around _your-when around changing your badge when yeee—reel your badge is already one of the wesi—ie— your badge is already one of the most—in-wholel your badge is already one of the mithe_in-whole| your badge is already one of the mithe world. in whole your badge is already one of the mithe world. (jr/{ear whole your badge is already one of the mithe world. (jr/{ear iole your badge is already one of the mithe world. : of the world. okay, so. so stand up to racism then. they welcome of the world. okay, so. so stand u|debate.sm then. they welcome of the world. okay, so. so stand u|debate. a] then. they welcome of the world. okay, so. so stand u|debate. a debate they welcome of the world. okay, so. so stand u|debate. a debate they vtracism. a debate. a debate about racism. no, have debate about no, let's have a debate about race. no problem with it. that's okay. i'm cool that. that's okay. i'm cool with that. iirei-s— that's okay. i'm cool with that. iirere—e- that's okay. i'm cool with that. that's—a debate. that's that's having a debate eireei— that's that's having a debate eireei-i— that's that's having a debate about-i mean,- that's that's having a debate about i mean, this about it. but i mean, this the esieei— about it. but i mean, this the esreei eeei— about it. but i mean, this the actual boat itself,— about it. but i mean, this the actual boat itself, which on actual boat itself, which is on iire— actual boat itself, which is on the-manchester- actual boat itself, which is on the manchester and the seal of manchester and has ireee— the seal of manchester and has ieee-ier— the seal of manchester and has been _for some— the seal of manchester and has been _for some-i- been there for some time, i weeeleiee-i— been there for some time, i mean, didn't correspond mean, it didn't even correspond wire—ei— mean, it didn't even correspond wire—er sieveryl with the timeline of slavery eeywey. — with the timeline of slavery eeywey. -i— with the timeline of slavery anyway.-i mean,- with the timeline of slavery anyway. i mean, man, anyway. it was i mean, man, iieiiee-s—

anyway. it was i mean, man, united's-united's- anyway. it was i mean, man, united's-united's i united's in man united's case, i ririei— think slavery was abolished seweiiriee— think slavery was abolished something like— think slavery was abolished something like 70 years, odd think slavery was abolished sometbefore ke 70 years, odd think slavery was abolished sometbefore or 70 years, odd think slavery was abolished sometbefore or something odd think slavery was abolished sometbefore or something likeid years before or something like iirer— years before or something like iirer. i— years before or something like iirer. i iiriei— years before or something like that. i think unless i've got iire— that. i think unless i've got iire yees— that. i think unless i've got the years,-years- that. i think unless i've got the years, years wrong. but the years, the years wrong. but you— the years, the years wrong. but yee-we— the years, the years wrong. but you-we see this- you know, we see this all eeewe— you know, we see this all around, all— you know, we see this all around, all around, around around, all around, all around iire—ii— around, all around, all around iire—ii ie- around, all around, all around. the—it in football. the game. we see it in football. we-ve—siesel we've seen it certainly since iire—eeei- we've seen it certainly since. iire—eee-r-wiry the pandemic. i don't know why iirer— the pandemic. i don't know why erer-iiee— the pandemic. i don't know why iirei-iiee ie— the pandemic. i don't know why that-line in the- the pandemic. i don't know why that line in the sand. that was the line in the sand. eer— that was the line in the sand. eer-we— that was the line in the sand. eei-we see— that was the line in the sand. but-we see the- that was the line in the sand. but we see the taking of but when we see the taking of the but when we see the taking of iire ieee. — but when we see the taking of iire ieee. ier— but when we see the taking of the knee, for example, at eiiiereer— different stadiums, supporters eee-i— different stadiums, supportersi eee-r—peiiriss don't don't want those politics in don't don't want those politics ie weir— don't don't want those politics ie weir-reis— don't don't want those politics in their-this time- don't don't want those politics in their this time would don't don't want those politics in oriir this time would don't don't want those politics in or this this time would don't don't want those politics in or this energy time would don't don't want those politics in or this energy would vould don't don't want those politics in or this energy would be ld don't don't want those politics in or this energy would be far be or this energy would be far ireiier— be or this energy would be far better leveraging— be or this energy would be far better leveraging pressure better leveraging the pressure on better leveraging the pressure ee-ei— better leveraging the pressure ee-ei-wire- on the likes of uefa, who hand out on the likes of uefa, who hand eei—iiees— on the likes of uefa, who hand eei—iiees ie- on the likes of uefa, who hand out fines to national out minuscule fines to national essesieieis— out minuscule fines to national associations when— out minuscule fines to national associations when their when weir— associations when their when iireir iees— associations when their when their fans have— associations when their when their fans have been found peiiiy— their fans have been found peiiry ei— their fans have been found guilty of racist— their fans have been found guilty of racist chanting. the wesi— guilty of racist chanting. the wesi esei— guilty of racist chanting. the most recent example the most recent example is the iieesiresier— most recent example is the manchester fullback rico manchester city fullback rico isise —pieyee- manchester city fullback rico rico played against rico lewis, who played against eeviiie— rico lewis, who played against sevilla back— rico lewis, who played against sevilla back in— rico lewis, who played against sevilla back in november. i iire— sevilla back in november. i mean, the fine— sevilla back in november. i mean, the fine handed out by iirer— mean, the fine handed out by irere eee— mean, the fine handed out by uefa and uefa— mean, the fine handed out by uefa and uefa is— mean, the fine handed out by uefa and uefa is meant to be a reverse— uefa and uefa is meant to be a forward thinking— uefa and uefa is meant to be a forward thinking progressive organisation. _ forward thinking progressive organisation. ,5,000 at a sespeeeee— organisation. ,5,000 at a suspended and- organisation. ,5,000 at a suspended and then sevilla were ieie— suspended and then sevilla were reie iirer— suspended and then sevilla were told that there— suspended and then sevilla were told that there was— suspended and then sevilla were told that there was a suspended peeisirweer— told that there was a suspended peeisirweei es— told that there was a suspended punishment as well of having ieee— punishment as well of having ieee seeis— punishment as well of having 1000 seats declared out of ireeees— 1000 seats declared out of ireeees eee— 1000 seats declared out of bounds and there are loads of iiees— bounds and there are loads of eeiees going— bounds and there are loads of eeiees going ee— bounds and there are loads of things going on in football to sew— things going on in football to serilsrewp— things going on in football to sort-stamp out— things going on in football to sort stamp out racism. iig sort of stamp out racism. my iesei— sort of stamp out racism. my iesei sierr— sort of stamp out racism. my local club, millwall, for example, had long been tarnished with of being

with the badge of being a racist, they've done amazing with the badge of being a racist, andthey've done amazing with the badge of being a racist, and lots�*ve done amazing with the badge of being a racist, and lots of done amazing with the badge of being a racist, and lots of stuff, amazing with the badge of being a racist, and lots of stuff, lots zing things and lots of stuff, lots of initiatives lots of of initiatives across lots of leagues, of clubs in the leagues, lots of clubs in the league, lots of clubs are acting positively this regard. but positively in this regard. but all were not new to this- ; jjiil;«i t“ 3: but all were not new to this mill, ireve— all were not new to this mill, ireve ireee— all were not new to this mill, have been doing— all were not new to this mill, have been doing this for years eee— have been doing this for years eee-eee— have been doing this for years eee-eee i— have been doing this for years and-and i mean- have been doing this for years and and i mean to label and years. and i mean to label weir— and years. and i mean to label their supporters— and years. and i mean to label their supporters racist as it their supporters as racist as it siiii— their supporters as racist as it sip-eee- their supporters as racist as it sriii-eei. i- their supporters as racist as it still-obe. i think. still happens. obe. i think it's a i still happens. obe. i think it's e—i reeiiyl a thing of the past, i really see.— a thing of the past, i really eelweee— a thing of the past, i really do. mean, between 2011 and do. i mean, between 2011 and eeie.— do. i mean, between 2011 and eeie. rive.— do. i mean, between 2011 and 2016,five, i— do. i mean, between 2011 and 2016, five, i think— do. i mean, between 2011 and 2016, five, i think five of weir— 2016, five, i think five of reeir pieyer— 2016, five, i think five of their player the years out their player of the years out of six-eii— their player of the years out of six-all black— their player of the years out of six all black players, you six were all black players, you ieee.— six were all black players, you ieee-reeiiy- six were all black players, you know,-really think. know, so i don't really think is— know, so i don't really think ii-s—wieer- it's indicative of a wider preiriew — it's indicative of a wider problem racist problem problem or a racist problem at eee—eeri- problem or a racist problem ati one—park rangers one club, queens park rangers were oncelmean,_ one club, queens park rangers were once mean, done were once i mean, they've done sewe—sieel some fantastic work. my club wiiir — some fantastic work. my club wiiir -preiesrs- with diversity projects particularly- with diversity projects particularly in west london and you particularly in west london and yee-wesi— particularly in west london and yee-wesi ei— particularly in west london and you-most of the- particularly in west london and you most of the coaches you know most of the coaches reey— you know most of the coaches iirey-reeiise— you know most of the coaches they-realise .the - they they realise that the seeseirs— they they realise that the coaches should should be representative _ coaches should should be representative of what's the representative of what's on the iieie. — representative of what's on the eeie-i— representative of what's on the field.-i think— representative of what's on the field.-i think that- representative of what's on the field. i think that football field. and i think that football is-iirese— field. and i think that football is-those areas- field. and i think that football is those areas where is one of those areas where -piisir. - is one of those areas where racism-pitch. it's. is one of those areas where racism pitch. it's the racism on the pitch. it's the ieseesesi— racism on the pitch. it's the instances are _ racism on the pitch. it's the instances are few and far ireiweee— instances are few and far between because that's one piese. — between because that's one piese-wirere- between because that's one place. where equality, place. martin where equality, it preveiis— place. martin where equality, it preveiis .— place. martin where equality, it prevails . because— place. martin where equality, it prevails . because if you're a prevails. because if you're a iriesi— prevails. because if you're a iriesi pieyer— prevails. because if you're a black player, if— prevails. because if you're a black player, if you're from any iresiereeeet— black player, if you're from any background, you're scoring 30 eeeis— background, you're scoring 30 eees-veere- background, you're scoring 30. eeeis-vee-re-ie background, you're scoring 30. goalstwo,-you're-to background, you're scoring 30 goalstwo, £200,000 re to background, you're scoring 30 goalstwo, £200,000 a to background, you're scoring 30 goalstwo, £200,000 a year. to earn two, £200,000 a year. you-e— earn two, £200,000 a year. vow-be- earn two, £200,000 a year.- you're-be-like you're going to be treated like a god.— you're going to be treated like aged.-going— you're going to be treated like aged.-going to- you're going to be treated like a god. going to be a god. you're going to be worshipped.— a god. you're going to be worshipped. that's not worshipped. and that's not a recent—

worshipped. and that's not a recent-black- worshipped. and that's not a recent black players have worshipped. and that's not a recenworshipped:k players have worshipped. and that's not a recenworshipped inplayers have worshipped. and that's not a recenworshipped in thisers have worshipped. and that's not a recen worshipped in this country been worshipped in this country since—eee,- been worshipped in this country since—80s, had- been worshipped in this countryi since—80s, had some since the 70s and 80s, had some nann— since the 70s and 80s, had some nerd-neu- — since the 70s and 80s, had some nerd-neu- .yen- hard times as well. but you mink— hard times as well. but you mink-viv- hard times as well. but you think viv anderson think back to viv anderson playing— think back to viv anderson - playing—eeese, playing for nottingham forest, the playing for nottingham forest, ene—se— playing for nottingham forest, nne—se pene- playing for nottingham forest,. the—so paul mcgrath the forest fans. so paul mcgrath playing—united] playing for manchester united, les playing for manchester united, eee—enn- ne-e- playing for manchester united,| les—qpr. he's still playing for manchester united, lmean, qpr. he's still playing for manchester united, lmean, he's qpr. he's still playing for manchester united, lmean, he's known r. he's still playing for manchester united, lmean, he's known ashe's still playing for manchester united, lmean, he's known ashe'sles.l i mean, he's known as sir les. ne—neen- i mean, he's known as sir les.| ne—neen given he hasn't officially been given a he hasn't officially been given n—ne- he hasn't officially been given n—ne wee- he hasn't officially been given n—ne ene| he hasn't officially been given. a_he was one of a knighthood, but he was one of the a knighthood, but he was one of nne ne— a knighthood, but he was one of nne en— a knighthood, but he was one of the one of the— a knighthood, but he was one of the one of the one— a knighthood, but he was one of the one of the one of the football— the one of the one of the football people, prominent neennnu— football people, prominent. football _ rejected. football people, prominent- football_rejected. he football people who rejected. he enn— said it's not a good idea taking the said it's not a good idea taking ene-neeenee— said it's not a good idea taking the-becauseldoes- said it's not a good idea taking the because does nothing the knee because it does nothing for the knee because it does nothing fen-en— the knee because it does nothing fen-en enem- the knee because it does nothing for-of racism. lyle- for the cause of racism. lyle enemas,— for the cause of racism. lyle tnenne, ene— for the cause of racism. lyle thomas, lyle sorry. the thomas, lyle taylor. sorry. the nettingnnn— thomas, lyle taylor. sorry. the nonnncnyenet— thomas, lyle taylor. sorry. the nottiicrystal palace, very zaha crystal palace, a very eminent— zaha crystal palace, a veryi eminent—their eminent player, one of their greenest— eminent player, one of their greatest players. eminent player, one of their. greatest-players. -has greatest ever players. now has enn— greatest ever players. now has eeie enn— greatest ever players. now has said that.does_ greatest ever players. now has said that does nothing to said that it does nothing to funne— said that it does nothing to further-cause.- said that it does nothing to further cause. it's lost its further the cause. it's lost its. nneeenee —ann message. it can be divisive. and john— message. it can be divisive. and john-w9“— message. it can be divisive. and john _well said- message. it can be divisive. and john _well said that. john barnes as well said that it's john barnes as well said that eee-une— john barnes as well said that it's-like like- john barnes as well said that it's like like taking john barnes as well said that it's knee like like taking john barnes as well said that it's knee are like like taking john barnes as well said that it's knee are not like taking john barnes as well said that it's knee are not are taking john barnes as well said that it's knee are not are noting john barnes as well said that it's knee are not are not going the knee are not are not going to enenge— the knee are not are not going to change intrinsically. somebody— to change intrinsically. somebody who thinks to change intrinsically.- somebody .who thinks that to change intrinsically.— somebody .who thinks that way somebody who who thinks that way who somebody who who thinks that way nne-nne— somebody who who thinks that way nne-nee n— somebody who who thinks that way who-has a racial— somebody who who thinks that way who has a racial bias or who is who has a racial bias or an who is who has a racial bias or —n- who is who has a racial bias or —n enenl an unconscious bias in their mind.— an unconscious bias in their nine—,- an unconscious bias in their| m..d._, ennnke an unconscious bias in their. mind._, thanks for mind. aidan magee, thanks for youn— mind. aidan magee, thanks for vour-todav- — mind. aidan magee, thanks for your today. ' your time today. appreciate it. have cheers. okay. have a great day. cheers. okay. on next story and as on to our next story now. and as you earlier week, you saw earlier this week, the world's blew up world's largest rocket blew up on friday. elon musk's spacex starship made it partially through its first full test, but only four minutes into its launch. it blew up. in the future, this rocket could change astrophysics astronomy as

astrophysics and astronomy as well as take people to the moon and mars. is it all bad news and mars. but is it all bad news that that it triumphantly exploded .7 well, joining me now exploded? well, joining me now is space expert andy land. andy, i want to put it to you. it's obviously a disaster that it blew up. but are billionaires like elon musk and jeff bezos are actually pioneers or are they trying to push the envelope or is it just all about massive envelopes of cash ? good envelopes of cash? good afternoon . you know, they are afternoon. you know, they are pushing the envelope, especially elon musk, with this rocket. i mean , this was a test flight of mean, this was a test flight of an mean, this was a test flight of en unnee— mean, this was a test flight of an untried piece— mean, this was a test flight of an untried piece of engineering equipmen— an untried piece of engineering equipmenn. ann— an untried piece of engineering equipment. and usually when you do equipment. and usually when you no teen— equipment. and usually when you no test mens— equipment. and usually when you do test flights of— equipment. and usually when you do test flights of anything or a teen— do test flights of anything or a teen enven— do test flights of anything or a test drives of— do test flights of anything or a test drives of something, things are test drives of something, things gene— test drives of something, things geing ie— test drives of something, things geing ie ge— test drives of something, things are going to go wrong. and they expeeiing— are going to go wrong. and they were expecting things to go wrong — were expecting things to go rwnog wnoi— were expecting things to go wrong. what they needed was hard core-non — wrong. what they needed was hard eore-rrorn o— wrong. what they needed was hard core-from a test— wrong. what they needed was hard core from a test flight. core data from a test flight. ingre— core data from a test flight. inoi-e iner— core data from a test flight. that's just just— core data from a test flight. that's just just to really push it that's just just to really push i one— that's just just to really push ii and eee— that's just just to really push it and see what— that's just just to really push it and see what would happen. it oieo— it and see what would happen. it also interestingly— it and see what would happen. it also interestingly ,— it and see what would happen. it also interestingly , it seems to also interestingly, it seems to newe— also interestingly, it seems to nowe rnieeei— also interestingly, it seems to have missed a— also interestingly, it seems to have missed a lot of people . have missed a lot of people. were— have missed a lot of people. were ie— have missed a lot of people. were in ine— have missed a lot of people. here is the safety procedures noi— here is the safety procedures non io— here is the safety procedures non io ie— here is the safety procedures had to be tested— here is the safety procedures had to be tested as well. what wooin— had to be tested as well. what wonio noggen— had to be tested as well. what would happen if— had to be tested as well. what would happen if we've had would happen if and we've had the

would happen if and we've had ineloni— would happen if and we've had ineloni we— would happen if and we've had theland we saw— would happen if and we've had the and we saw what would the if and we saw what would happen— the if and we saw what would nogpen oni— the if and we saw what would nogpen one ine— the if and we saw what would happen and the test procedure oni— happen and the test procedure and-procedures- happen and the test procedure and procedures worked and the safety procedures worked wew— and the safety procedures worked vew-ingre— and the safety procedures worked very that's something very well. and that's something ingre— very well. and that's something were gone— very well. and that's something that's quite important for all ineee— that's quite important for all these things. _ that's quite important for all these things. mi; these things. but they are pushing the envelope. i mean, he's reusable he's developed a reusable rocker.— he's developed a reusable rocker-going- he's developed a reusable rocket. going to rocket. this is going to be rniw— rocket. this is going to be wiry-,— rocket. this is going to be fully-, reducing. rocket. this is going to be. fully-, reducing the fully reusable, reducing the coer— fully reusable, reducing the eoei or— fully reusable, reducing the cost of putting— fully reusable, reducing the cost of putting heavy payloads inro— cost of putting heavy payloads inio row— cost of putting heavy payloads into low earth— cost of putting heavy payloads into low earth orbit could carry up io— into low earth orbit could carry up io roo— into low earth orbit could carry up to 100 astronauts or scientific— up to 100 astronauts or scientific scientists to the moon or even— scientific scientists to the moon or even refuel it and send it moon or even refuel it and send ii io— moon or even refuel it and send ii io irere— moon or even refuel it and send it to mars where— moon or even refuel it and send it to mars where it— moon or even refuel it and send it to mars where it would come nook— it to mars where it would come been one— it to mars where it would come been one be— it to mars where it would come back and be reusable. this is eorneining— back and be reusable. this is something we— back and be reusable. this is something we haven't had before, and something we haven't had before, one ire— something we haven't had before, one in going— something we haven't had before, one in going io— something we haven't had before, and it's going to open the solar eweiern — and it's going to open the solar eweiern io— and it's going to open the solar system to human— and it's going to open the solar system to human exploration. but of ine — system to human exploration. but of course, the second stage of win— of course, the second stage of we eon— of course, the second stage of this can actually— of course, the second stage of this can actually be adapted to carry— this can actually be adapted to carry-or— this can actually be adapted to carry-or ii— this can actually be adapted to carry-or ii eon— this can actually be adapted to carry-or it can be- this can actually be adapted to carry or it can be adapted carry cargo or it can be adapted to carry cargo or it can be adapted io carry— carry cargo or it can be adapted to carry satellites— carry cargo or it can be adapted to carry satellites .— carry cargo or it can be adapted to carry satellites . so it is to carry satellites. so it is a reei— to carry satellites. so it is a real groundbreaker thing. and onw— real groundbreaker thing. and only eorneioiw— real groundbreaker thing. and only somebody like elon musk, wno— only somebody like elon musk, wno noe— only somebody like elon musk, wno nee wew— only somebody like elon musk, who has very large amounts of ones!— who has very large amounts of my corin— who has very large amounts of money, could actually push the enweioge— money, could actually push the enweioge iire— money, could actually push the envelope like this— money, could actually push the envelope like this to do it. and nearing— envelope like this to do it. and bearing in— envelope like this to do it. and bearing in-he's- envelope like this to do it. and bearing in he's over taken bearing in mind he's over taken nosin— bearing in mind he's over taken nasa developments when nasa in their developments when they— nasa in their developments when new noi— nasa in their developments when new new ineir— nasa in their developments when they had their rocket being ieweiooei— they had their rocket being developed over— they had their rocket being developed over 30 years for ineir— developed over 30 years for ineir going— developed over 30 years for their going back to the moon , their going back to the moon, wnien— their going back to the moon, which-reusable,- their going back to the moon, which reusable, it's which is not reusable, it's

eopenioiie— expendable. he's simply owerioken— expendable. he's simplyi overtaken-gone expendable. he's simply- overtaken-gone further overtaken them and gone further inan— overtaken them and gone further inon—ininw- overtaken them and gone further inon—ininw youl than ever before. so think you need— than ever before. so think you need-people— than ever before. so think you need people who've got need these people who've got irnoginoiion— need these people who've got imagination and— need these people who've got imagination and ideas to push forward— imagination and ideas to push forward one— imagination and ideas to push forward and get— imagination and ideas to push forward and get up and do it and try forward and get up and do it and in eornerning. — forward and get up and do it and try something. / c forward and get up and do it and try something. “43?" c try something. yeah. it's worth pointing out , though, andy, that pointing out, though, andy, that people like elon musk aren't just doing this for altruistic reasons or they're reasons or because they're stargazers. a huge stargazers. there's a huge amount money in this . for amount of money in this. for example, contract that musk example, the contract that musk got from nasa to develop a craft that could take people was worth $2.9 billion. and indeed, one multi—millionaire offered jeff bezos. multi—millionaire offered jeff bezos . 2.8 £28 million. sorry, bezos. 2.8 £28 million. sorry, just to go on one of his rockets into space. so there's a lot of money in the final frontier, isn't there ? there is. and there isn't there? there is. and there isn't there? there is. and there is going— isn't there? there is. and there is going io— isn't there? there is. and there is going ro ie— isn't there? there is. and there is going to be more— c sigiflzfi’ there is. and there is going to be more and more for— is going to be more and more economics for it— is going to be more and more economics for it in the future as economics for it in the future on weii. — economics for it in the future on weii. ire— economics for it in the future as well. it's very— economics for it in the future as well. it's very similar to development— as well. it's very similar to development of— as well. it's very similar to development of commercial oiriine— development of commercial airline flight,— development of commercial airline flight, which was very egeneiwe— airline flight, which was very epensive in— airline flight, which was very expensive in the— airline flight, which was very expensive in the early days and men— expensive in the early days and inen onw— expensive in the early days and then only multi—millionaires sowin— then only multi—millionaires sown-riv- then only multi—millionaires could _fly .them i then only multi—millionairesi could _fly .them in could afford to fly on them in ine— could afford to fly on them in we reso- — could afford to fly on them in the 1930. _the - could afford to fly on them in the 1930. the 1960s, the the 1930. but by the 1960s, the prise— the 1930. but by the 1960s, the prise noi— the 1930. but by the 1960s, the price had fallen— the 1930. but by the 1960s, the price had fallen down because of the price had fallen down because of ine—noi— price had fallen down because of the—had changed. i price had fallen down because of the had changed. and the technology. had changed. and inn-s— the technology. had changed. and inoi-s wnoi— the technology. had changed. and that's what-seeing- the technology. had changed. and that's what seeing at the that's what we're seeing at the rnorneni— that's what we're seeing at the moment—flight.- that's what we're seeing at the

moment flight. also moment with space flight. also on renn— moment with space flight. also on earth-need— moment with space flight. also on earth.-need to- moment with space flight. also on earth. need to find new on earth. we need to find new noieriois— on earth. we need to find new noieriois .— on earth. we need to find new noieriois. i— on earth. we need to find new materials. i mean, we're running out materials. i mean, we're running onilrnoieriois— materials. i mean, we're running out-materials on— materials. i mean, we're running out materials on the earth, out of materials on the earth, wnien— out of materials on the earth, wnien is— out of materials on the earth, which is easily— out of materials on the earth, which is easily accessible, rare eonn—norieri earth metals is getting harder oni— earth metals is getting harderi one—weir, and harder to find them. well, inese— and harder to find them. well, these-available— and harder to find them. well, these available on moon and harder to find them. well, theson available on moon and harder to find them. well, theson asteroidsrle on moon and harder to find them. well, theson asteroids andn moon and harder to find them. well, theson asteroids and possibly on and on asteroids and possibly pevonri— and on asteroids and possibly pevoni. ani— and on asteroids and possibly beyond. and therefore, the newer— beyond. and therefore, the natural resources available to inis— natural resources available to we pionei— natural resources available to this planet without damaging this planet without damaging inis pionei— this planet without damaging this planet any— this planet without damaging this planet any further are ovoiiopie— this planet any further are available there— this planet any further are available there in the solar svsiern — available there in the solar svsrern inor— available there in the solar system that is— available there in the solar system that is now going to be eornrnereioiiv— system that is now going to be commercially viable to mine inose— commercially viable to mine those materials— commercially viable to mine those materials and bring noieriois— those materials and bring materials back to the earth . so materials back to the earth. so inis— materials back to the earth. so we is— materials back to the earth. so this is actually— materials back to the earth. so this is actually the next step. if this is actually the next step. if vow— this is actually the next step. if vow pkg,— this is actually the next step. if you like, for— this is actually the next step. if you like, for the evolution of if you like, for the evolution or our— if you like, for the evolution of our planet— if you like, for the evolution of our planet and our species to keep— of our planet and our species to keep going— of our planet and our species to keep going on— of our planet and our species to keep going on this— of our planet and our species to keep going on this world and the oi— keep going on this world and the economics of it— keep going on this world and the economics of it are— keep going on this world and the economics of it are working weii— economics of it are working weii. eni— economics of it are working well. but you're _ economics of it are working well. but you're absolutely igni— well. but you're absolutely rigni. irs— well. but you're absolutely right. it's not— well. but you're absolutely right. it's not just altruistic, oiinongn— right. it's not just altruistic, oirnongn ne— right. it's not just altruistic, although he-got- right. it's not just altruistic, although he got a personal although he has got a personal inieresi— although he has got a personal inieresi in— although he has got a personal interest in doing— although he has got a personal interest in doing there interest in doing this, there nos— interest in doing this, there nos io— interest in doing this, there nos io pe— interest in doing this, there has to be able— interest in doing this, there has to be able to make money for it . has to be able to make money for i . ani— has to be able to make money for it . and government— has to be able to make money for it . and government agencies such it. and government agencies such as nasa,— it. and government agencies such as wasa, wnien— it. and government agencies such as nasa, which work for the goevernrnni— as nasa, which work for the government, certainly our ospeeis— government, certainly our ospeers, inev— government, certainly our aspects, they cannot afford to do aspects, they cannot afford to no onrnvore — aspects, they cannot afford to do anymore. they— aspects, they cannot afford to do anymore. they need to get the eosis— do anymore. they need to get the eosis iown. — do anymore. they need to get the costs down. and— do anymore. they need to get the costs down. and that's where rinsi— costs down. and that's where rinsv cones— costs down. and that's where musk comes in.— costs down. and that's where musk comes in. okay, andy , thank musk comes in. okay, andy, thank you musk comes in. okay, andy, thank vow for— musk comes in. okay, andy, thank vow ror vow— musk comes in. okay, andy, thank vow ror vowr rime— musk comes in. okay, andy, thank you for your time today. c you for your time today. it's andy—

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swi— arrested by police investigating snp finances.— arrested by police investigating snp finances. he— arrested by police investigating snp finances. he was later reieosei— snp finances. he was later released without charge . the released without charge. the party's— released without charge. the poriv-s rorrner— released without charge. the party's former chief executive , party's former chief executive, ierer— party's former chief executive, peter murrell,_ party's former chief executive, peter murrell, who was also wieoio— peter murrell, who was also nicola sturgeon _ peter murrell, who was also nicola sturgeon anne's husband, was nicola sturgeon anne's husband, oiso— nicola sturgeon anne's husband, was also arrested— nicola sturgeon anne's husband, was also arrested and questioned before— was also arrested and questioned before being— was also arrested and questioned before being released. police are investigating the use of £600,000— are investigating the use of ieooooo in— are investigating the use of £600,000 in donated medicines rneoni— £600,000 in donated medicines rneoni for— £600,000 in donated medicines rneoni ior ine— £600,000 in donated medicines meant for the independence refereniwn— meant for the independence referendum as— meant for the independence referendum as you've been peg...— referendum as you've been hearing, former— referendum as you've been hearing, former deputy prime iiinisier— hearing, former deputy prime minister dominic raab has blamed oeiivisis— minister dominic raab has blamed activists within— minister dominic raab has blamed activists within the _ minister dominic raab has blamed activists within the civil service — activists within the civil service for— activists within the civil service for his- activists within the civil service for his downfall , saying service for his downfall, saying inev-re— service for his downfall, saying inev-re noiiing— service for his downfall, saying they're holding the government poor.— they're holding the government peew. ne— they're holding the government back. he resigned— they're holding the government back. he resigned yesterday oner— back. he resigned yesterday oiier on— back. he resigned yesterday after an investigation upheld or— after an investigation upheld or ine— after an investigation upheld some of the bullying allegations none— some of the bullying allegations made ogoinsi— some of the bullying allegations made against him. mr raab claims a made against him. mr raab claims o rninoriiv— made against him. mr raab claims o rninoriiv or— made against him. mr raab claims a minority of those— made against him. mr raab claims a minority of those within wniienoii— a minority of those within whitehall are— a minority of those within whitehall are effectively trying to whitehall are effectively trying io wooi— whitehall are effectively trying to block government. he told gb news— to block government. he told gb wews inor— to block government. he told gb wews inoi nes— to block government. he told gb news that he's very confident he sign-i— news that he's very confident he iiin-i penove— news that he's very confident he didn't behave in— news that he's very confident he didn't behave in a— news that he's very confident he didn't behave in a bullying way . iir— didn't behave in a bullying way . iir irese— didn't behave in a bullying way . mr these allegations- didn't behave in a bullying way . mr these allegations were dismissed out of hand and i think people are watching . this think people are watching. this would be surprised that in scrutinising civil servants and in making sure that millions of

pounds of taxpayers money is not squandered and being able to pull very senior civil servants, not junior members of staff, up and say, look, i don't have the bafic and say, look, i don't have the basic information to decide this, then i think it puts a handbrake, a paralysing effect on ministers delivering for the british people. well, shadow health minister andrew gwynne has condemned mr raab's behaviour since his resignation mission as appalling, saying those who've blown the whistle have a right to do so. while the prime have a right to do 50. while the prime minister,— have a right to do 50. while the prime minister, who— have a right to do 50. while the prime minister, who will- ” g r::::r while the prime minister, who will have known— prime minister, who will have known oiowi— prime minister, who will have known about these allegations, inev— known about these allegations, inev ween-i— known about these allegations, inev weren-i o— known about these allegations, they weren't a secret, sought to oppoini— they weren't a secret, sought to oppoinr nirn — they weren't a secret, sought to oppoinr nirn io— they weren't a secret, sought to appoint him to the— they weren't a secret, sought to appoint him to the second most senior position— appoint him to the second most senior position in— appoint him to the second most senior position in government as pepwiv— senior position in government as pepwrv irirne— senior position in government as deputy prime minister. but also why deputy prime minister. but also wnv ne— deputy prime minister. but also wnv we winni— deputy prime minister. but also why he didn't sack dominic raab on receiving this report , why he on receiving this report, why he allowed dominic raab to leave on his own terms and worst of all, doubung his own terms and worst of all, doubling down on the whistleblowers, on the victims . whistleblowers, on the victims. i think that that letter that dominic raab produced in his resignation was quite frankly

appalling and showed no humility and no contrition . the health and no contrition. the health seereiorv— and no contrition. the health secretary, steve— e�*i: rtrzzrx” iii" the health secretary, steve barclay, says ne-s— secretary, steve barclay, says ne-s pionning— secretary, steve barclay, says he's planning to— secretary, steve barclay, says he's planning to launch legal oeiion— he's planning to launch legal action against— he's planning to launch legal action against the royal college of action against the royal college or wwrsing— action against the royal college of nursing over— action against the royal college of nursing over planned strikes at of nursing over planned strikes or ine— of nursing over planned strikes or we eni— of nursing over planned strikes or we end or— of nursing over planned strikes at the end of the— of nursing over planned strikes at the end of the month. industrial— at the end of the month. industrial action is planned iron— industrial action is planned rrorn ine— industrial action is planned from the 30th— industrial action is planned from the 30th of april to the zni— from the 30th of april to the 2nd or— from the 30th of april to the 2nd or irev— from the 30th of april to the 2nd of may. pat— from the 30th of april to the 2nd of may. pat cullen, the union's general— 2nd of may. pat cullen, the union's general secretary, has oeewsei— union's general secretary, has oeewsei ine— union's general secretary, has accused the government of being iesperoie— accused the government of being iesperoie io— accused the government of being desperate to silence nurses winer— desperate to silence nurses roiner inan— desperate to silence nurses rather than address the pay isswe— rather than address the pay . sne— rather than address the pay issue . she added that nursing issue. she added that nursing sien— issue. she added that nursing sioir wani— issue. she added that nursing staff want to _ issue. she added that nursing staff want to be _ issue. she added that nursing staff want to be in the negotiating _ staff want to be in the negotiating room, not a court ine— negotiating room, not a court room. the cbi— negotiating room, not a court room. the cbi has suspended all poiiev— room. the cbi has suspended all poiiev oni— room. the cbi has suspended all policy and membership activity oner— policy and membership activity after allegations— policy and membership activity after allegations of rape and sevowi— after allegations of rape and sexual assault— after allegations of rape and sexual assault prompted some of its sexual assault prompted some of is piggesi— sexual assault prompted some of its biggest names— sexual assault prompted some of its biggest names to quit dozens of nernersp— its biggest names to quit dozens of members, including john lewis , woiwesi,— of members, including john lewis , natwest, jaguar,— of members, including john lewis , natwest, jaguar, land rover oni— , natwest, jaguar, land rover one or,— , natwest, jaguar, land rover one or, ore— , natwest, jaguar, land rover and bt, are among those to pull out and bt, are among those to pull owi or— and bt, are among those to pull owi or ine— and bt, are among those to pull out of the trade— and bt, are among those to pull out of the trade body, the cbi sovs— out of the trade body, the cbi sovs ii— out of the trade body, the cbi says it shares— out of the trade body, the cbi says it shares the— out of the trade body, the cbi says it shares the shock and evnisio— says it shares the shock and revulsion over— says it shares the shock and revulsion over the allegations as revulsion over the allegations es ine— revulsion over the allegations osine ioniiv— revulsion over the allegations as the family of— revulsion over the allegations as the family of stephen lawrence are— as the family of stephen lawrence are holding a memorial service— lawrence are holding a memorial service in— lawrence are holding a memorial service in trafalgar— lawrence are holding a memorial service in trafalgar square to

nerv— service in trafalgar square to new ine— service in trafalgar square to mark the 30th— service in trafalgar square to mark the 30th anniversary of his rnweri— mark the 30th anniversary of his rnweri .— mark the 30th anniversary of his rnweri . ine— mark the 30th anniversary of his murder . the 18— mark the 30th anniversary of his murder. the 18 year old was vireo— murder. the 18 year old was viiiei in— murder. the 18 year old was viiiei in o— murder. the 18 year old was killed in a racist— murder. the 18 year old was killed in a racist attack while woiiing— killed in a racist attack while woiiing for— killed in a racist attack while woiring for o— killed in a racist attack while waiting for a bus— killed in a racist attack while waiting for a bus . the mayor of waiting for a bus. the mayor of ionion— waiting for a bus. the mayor of ionion, swig— waiting for a bus. the mayor of london, sadiq khan , and the london, sadiq khan, and the iopowr— london, sadiq khan, and the labour leader,— london, sadiq khan, and the labour leader, sir keir starmer , are attending.— labour leader, sir keir starmer , are attending. mr khan said it o inne— , are attending. mr khan said it o iirne io— , are attending. mr khan said it was a time to celebrate the work of was a time to celebrate the work or ine— was a time to celebrate the work of the lawrence— was a time to celebrate the work of the lawrence family . �*fvi�*rzi; ”it; of the lawrence family. we're here— of the lawrence family. we're here renov— of the lawrence family. we're here ioinv io— of the lawrence family. we're here today to celebrate and remember stephen lawrence's life , his legacy , but also the extra , his legacy, but also the extra ordinary work that's taken place by his family. doreen lawrence by his family. doreen lawrence by their team to address the issues of equality , diversity issues of equality, diversity and inclusion in the united states supreme court has preserved access to a widely used abortion pill, but is warning of a long fight ahead as legal challenges continue . the legal challenges continue. the ruling comes after a us d d the ruling comes after a us district judge— ruling comes after a us district iwige oppoinrei— ruling comes after a us district judge appointed by donald trump isswei— judge appointed by donald trump isswei on— judge appointed by donald trump issued an injunction to limit ine— issued an injunction to limit the availability— issued an injunction to limit the availability of the pill . the availability of the pill. mifepristone.— the availability of the pill. mifepristone. president biden's administration— mifepristone. president biden's administration is— mifepristone. president biden's administration is seeking to defend— administration is seeking to defend ine— administration is seeking to defend the pill— administration is seeking to defend the pill amid mounting

oporiion— defend the pill amid mounting abortion bans— defend the pill amid mounting abortion bans and restrictive rows— abortion bans and restrictive iows wnien— abortion bans and restrictive laws which were— abortion bans and restrictive laws which were enacted by ieepwpiieons— laws which were enacted by republicans who overturned a reis— republicans who overturned a 1973 decision— republicans who overturned a 1973 decision to— republicans who overturned a 1973 decision to legalise oporiion— 1973 decision to legalise oporiion .— 1973 decision to legalise abortion . erg- 1973 decision to legalise abortion . erg and tributes have abortion. erg and tributes have poweri— abortion. erg and tributes have powrei in— abortion. erg and tributes have powrei in for— abortion. erg and tributes have poured in for the— abortion. erg and tributes have poured in for the australian enierioiner— poured in for the australian entertainer barry humphries, who has entertainer barry humphries, who nos iiee— entertainer barry humphries, who nos died or— entertainer barry humphries, who has died at the— entertainer barry humphries, who has died at the age of 89 . has died at the age of 89. owing— has died at the age of 89. pwring o— has died at the age of 89. during a seven— has died at the age of 89. during a seven decade career, he pesi— during a seven decade career, he iesi known— during a seven decade career, he was best known for— during a seven decade career, he was best known for his alter egos— was best known for his alter egos ,— was best known for his alter egos , including— was best known for his alter egos , including dame edna egos, including dame edna iveroge— egos, including dame edna iveroge oni— egos, including dame edna everage and sir— egos, including dame edna everage and sir les patterson. aeror— everage and sir les patterson. aeror ioson— everage and sir les patterson. actorjason donovan described nin— actorjason donovan described nirn os— actorjason donovan described nirn as on— actorjason donovan described him as an entertaining genius oni— him as an entertaining genius and ine— him as an entertaining genius and the australian prime iiinisien— and the australian prime minister, anthony albanese, paid iripwie— minister, anthony albanese, paid iripwie io— minister, anthony albanese, paid tribute to him _ minister, anthony albanese, paid tribute to him as— minister, anthony albanese, paid tribute to him as the brightest sier— tribute to him as the brightest sin in— tribute to him as the brightest sin in o— tribute to him as the brightest star in a galaxy— tribute to him as the brightest star in a galaxy of personas . he star in a galaxy of personas. he iiee— star in a galaxy of personas. he died in— star in a galaxy of personas. he died in hospital— star in a galaxy of personas. he died in hospital surrounded by his died in hospital surrounded by nis renniiv— died in hospital surrounded by nis ioniiv .— died in hospital surrounded by his family . you're up to date on his family. you're up to date on gb his family. you're up to date on on news— his family. you're up to date on on news wow— his family. you're up to date on gb news now it's— his family. you're up to date on gb news now it's back to . gb news now it's back to. martin iinnni— gb news now it's back to. martin linnnv vow— gb news now it's back to. martin l innni vow verv— gb news now it's back to. martin . thank you very much,- thank you very much, bethany. as you've the as you've just been hearing the news the prime

news there, after the prime minister received the findings of dominic of the report into dominic robb's conduct following complaints about alleged bullying in his office, the former deputy prime minister and justice resigned justice secretary resigned yesterday morning in his resignation letter, dominic robb expressed his anger and disappointment and his concern that his resignation could set a dangerous precedent for future government ministers . a few government ministers. a few hours after he resigned , the hours after he resigned, the former deputy pm and justice secretary sat down with gb news political reporter olivia utley , where she asked him whether the allegations against him could have been coordinated . and could have been coordinated. and this is he said in response this is what he said in response . there's certainly some coordination. _ there's certainly some coordination. one of the eornpioinis— coordination. one of the complaints was struck out peeowse— complaints was struck out because written it because they'd written it rogeiner— because they'd written it rogerner .— because they'd written it together . and- because they'd written it together . and look, it this together. and look, put it this way— together. and look, put it this way ,— together. and look, put it this wov , inese— together. and look, put it this way , these claims, some of them way, these claims, some of them iowr oni— way, these claims, some of them iowr one o— way, these claims, some of them were four and a half years old. anoiner— were four and a half years old. anoiner one— were four and a half years old. another one was— were four and a half years old. another one was two and a half veers— another one was two and a half veers oii. — another one was two and a half veers oii. ine— another one was two and a half years old. the vast— another one was two and a half years old. the vast majority eigni— years old. the vast majority were eight months old. they were all submitted— were eight months old. they were all submitted on— were eight months old. they were all submitted on the same day , all submitted on the same day, wnien— all submitted on the same day, wnien is— all submitted on the same day, wnien is e— all submitted on the same day, which is a 15th— all submitted on the same day, which is a 15th of— all submitted on the same day, which is a 15th of november. i ininv— which is a 15th of november. i ininv e— which is a 15th of november. i ininv e rew— which is a 15th of november. i think a few came— which is a 15th of november. i think a few came in just a wine— think a few came in just a iiiiie iii— think a few came in just a little bit later. _ think a few came in just a little bit later. that can't be

coincidental— little bit later. that can't be coincidental ,— little bit later. that can't be coincidental, but i only know wnei— coincidental, but i only know we r— coincidental, but i only know we i know— coincidental, but i only know we i know .— coincidental, but i only know what i know . and i also know what i know. and i also know iner— what i know. and i also know we r— what i know. and i also know we r es— what i know. and i also know that i was warned— what i know. and i also know that i was warned by a very senior member— that i was warned by a very senior member of the government , senior member of the government a , senior member of the government , e eivii— senior member of the government , a senior civil servant, that were— , a senior civil servant, that were ee— , a senior civil servant, that there are increasingly activist eivii— there are increasingly activist civil servants— there are increasingly activist civil servants mobilised by the row— civil servants mobilised by the row wion— civil servants mobilised by the fda union who— civil servants mobilised by the fda union who are looking to iergei— fda union who are looking to target ministers— fda union who are looking to target ministers . will target ministers. well, this srorv— target ministers. well, this srorv is— target ministers. well, this story is going to run and run. and join me now to discuss this is gb news political reporter catherine forster. so catherine robbis catherine forster. so catherine robb is absolutely resolute. they're saying that the complaints are old, they're coordinated and they're warped and even fabricated. he's not going down with that fight, is he? he's certainly not. and i think it's very clear- "c7 f and i think it's very clear that eiinowgn— think it's very clear that although technically he resigned , eieeriv— although technically he resigned , eieeriv ne— although technically he resigned , clearly he feels— although technically he resigned , clearly he feels that his hand ioreei— , clearly he feels that his hand was forced and _ , clearly he feels that his hand was forced and the day that the repos— was forced and the day that the repori sene— was forced and the day that the report came out,— was forced and the day that the report came out, he got it before— report came out, he got it before ine— report came out, he got it before the prime minister did. he before the prime minister did. we epperenriv— before the prime minister did. he apparently spent the day eigesring— he apparently spent the day eigesring p,— he apparently spent the day digesting it, didn't feel that were— digesting it, didn't feel that were es— digesting it, didn't feel that there was anything in it sufficient— there was anything in it sufficient for- there was anything in it sufficient for him to have to go eni— sufficient for him to have to go eni iner— sufficient for him to have to go and that allies— sufficient for him to have to go and that allies were briefing to the and that allies were briefing to we pepers— and that allies were briefing to we pepers iner— and that allies were briefing to the papers that night. you know, he the papers that night. you know, ne es— the papers that night. you know, ne going— the papers that night. you know, ne going ro— the papers that night. you know, he was going to fight for his poiiiieei—

he was going to fight for his political career.— he was going to fight for his political career. he wasn't going— political career. he wasn't going io— political career. he wasn't going ro go. — political career. he wasn't going to go. but then yesterday mom...— going to go. but then yesterday morning, ne— going to go. but then yesterday morning, he had— going to go. but then yesterday morning, he had a 25 minute conversation _ morning, he had a 25 minute conversation with rishi sunak in wnion— conversation with rishi sunak in wnion ioisni— conversation with rishi sunak in which rishi sunak— conversation with rishi sunak in which rishi sunak didn't ask him to which rishi sunak didn't ask him io go,— which rishi sunak didn't ask him io go, owi— which rishi sunak didn't ask him io go, pwi ii— which rishi sunak didn't ask him to go, but it was— which rishi sunak didn't ask him to go, but it was clear what was evpeeiei— to go, but it was clear what was evpeeiei .— to go, but it was clear what was evpeeiei . so— to go, but it was clear what was expected . so he— to go, but it was clear what was expected . so he is— to go, but it was clear what was expected . so he is very angry expected. so he is very angry eni— expected. so he is very angry eni iesning— expected. so he is very angry and lashing out— expected. so he is very angry and lashing out at the civil service— and lashing out at the civil service ,— and lashing out at the civil service , saying— and lashing out at the civil service , saying that basically service, saying that basically sevs— service, saying that basically sevs eeriein— service, saying that basically says certain civil— service, saying that basically says certain civil servants have an says certain civil servants have en egenie. — says certain civil servants have en egenee. ine— says certain civil servants have an agenda. the anti—brexit or wieieven— an agenda. the anti—brexit or whatever, and— an agenda. the anti—brexit or whatever, and so— an agenda. the anti—brexit or whatever, and so set out to get nin— whatever, and so set out to get nirn in— whatever, and so set out to get nirn in e— whatever, and so set out to get him in a coordinated way. he gives— him in a coordinated way. he gives ine— him in a coordinated way. he gives the fact— him in a coordinated way. he gives the fact that these eornpieinis— gives the fact that these complaints were put in in rapid succession . do you think as succession. do you think as evidence— succession. do you think as evidence or— succession. do you think as evidence of that— succession. do you think as evidence of that , do you think, evidence of that, do you think, ceinerine, — evidence of that, do you think, catherine, that _ evidence of that, do you think, catherine, that there's anything in-noiione — catherine, that there's anything in-notion? because- catherine, that there's anything in notion? f " in that notion? because when you look role call of those look at the role call of those who've fallen , priti who've who've fallen, priti patel, johnson on patel, boris johnson on partygate and now rob. they certainly do seem to share similar views along the lines of brexit and immigration . is this brexit and immigration. is this a political takedown of rob erg? well, lots of people will think iner— well, lots of people will think we ii— well, lots of people will think me i is— well, lots of people will think that it is, but— well, lots of people will think that it is, but similarly , he that it is, but similarly, he iois— that it is, but similarly, he iois or— that it is, but similarly, he lots of other— that it is, but similarly, he lots of other people will think iner— lots of other people will think we inis— lots of other people will think we we is— lots of other people will think that this is just— lots of other people will think that this is just a— lots of other people will think that this is just a huge distraction— that this is just a huge distraction .— that this is just a huge distraction . ocean and the

distraction. ocean and the proiiern — distraction. ocean and the problem really— distraction. ocean and the problem really for rishi sunak , problem really for rishi sunak, wno— problem really for rishi sunak, wno vowin— problem really for rishi sunak, who would desperately liked who would have desperately liked to who would have desperately liked io-porninie— who would have desperately liked to-dominic raab— who would have desperately liked to dominic raab because to keep dominic raab because ne-s— to keep dominic raab because ies—eiiv- to keep dominic raab because ne-s—eiiv eni- to keep dominic raab because he's—ally and very| he's been a key ally and very instrumental— he's been a key ally and very instrumental in— he's been a key ally and very instrumental in rishi sunak peeorning— instrumental in rishi sunak becoming prime minister. the fundamental— becoming prime minister. the fundamental problem is that were— fundamental problem is that were nes— fundamental problem is that there has been— fundamental problem is that there has been such a succession of seenieis— there has been such a succession of scandals about— there has been such a succession of scandals about standards over the of scandals about standards over we resi— of scandals about standards over we iesi veer— of scandals about standards over we iesi veer or— of scandals about standards over the last year or so,— of scandals about standards over the last year or so, beginning wiri— the last year or so, beginning wiin ine— the last year or so, beginning with the conservative party's eiiernpi— with the conservative party's eiiernpi io— with the conservative party's attempt to keep— with the conservative party's attempt to keep owen paterson ener— attempt to keep owen paterson eiier ne— attempt to keep owen paterson eiier ne es— attempt to keep owen paterson after he was suspended for ireeeiing— after he was suspended for breaching, you— after he was suspended for breaching, you know , lobbying breaching, you know, lobbying rwies— breaching, you know, lobbying rwies .— breaching, you know, lobbying rwies . inen— breaching, you know, lobbying rules . then all— breaching, you know, lobbying rules . then all the partygate rules. then all the partygate seeniei— rules. then all the partygate scandal and— rules. then all the partygate scandal and then culminating in cnris— scandal and then culminating in chris pincher,— scandal and then culminating in chris pincher, that— scandal and then culminating in chris pincher, that this has been— chris pincher, that this has been swei— chris pincher, that this has been swen e— chris pincher, that this has been such a terrible look and genereiei— been such a terrible look and generated such— been such a terrible look and generated such awful headlines iner— generated such awful headlines me new — generated such awful headlines that rishi sunak— generated such awful headlines that rishi sunak came in saying , inn— that rishi sunak came in saying , i-rn noi— that rishi sunak came in saying ,pm nor iire— that rishi sunak came in saying , i'm not like them, i'm going to , i'm not like them, i'm going io pe— , i'm not like them, i'm going to be different.— , i'm not like them, i'm going to be different. you can trust me— to be different. you can trust me io— to be different. you can trust me io veep— to be different. you can trust me to keep everything above ioeri— me to keep everything above ioeri eni— me to keep everything above board and do— me to keep everything above board and do things properly. wner— board and do things properly. wner eiewe— board and do things properly. what about this— board and do things properly. what about this notion- board and do things properly. what about this notion that the threshold of bullying is now so low it's effectively looking at somebody the wrong way or point . being at the table in the wrong way is a civil service just becoming a bunch of softies

? well, clearly what constitutes bullying is a very grey area . bullying is a very grey area. now in the ministerial code, it reins— now in the ministerial code, it reins epowi— now in the ministerial code, it talks about bullying as being a offensive,— talks about bullying as being a offensive, intimidating behaviour— offensive, intimidating behaviour involving an abuse of poe— behaviour involving an abuse of poe wow,— behaviour involving an abuse of power. now, there— behaviour involving an abuse of power. now, there were these two iner— power. now, there were these two cases that were _ power. now, there were these two cases that were upheld , but what cases that were upheld, but what new— cases that were upheld, but what rnenv peopie— cases that were upheld, but what many people would think of as pwiiving— many people would think of as bullying shouts— many people would think of as bullying shouts ,— many people would think of as bullying shouts , wrong swearing, bullying shouts, wrong swearing, eieeiere. — bullying shouts, wrong swearing, etcetera. there— bullying shouts, wrong swearing, etcetera. there was none of iner— etcetera. there was none of new ine— etcetera. there was none of that. the story— etcetera. there was none of that. the story that was thrown out that. the story that was thrown owi epowi— that. the story that was thrown out about him _ that. the story that was thrown out about him having hurled a iorneio— out about him having hurled a iorneio pieces— out about him having hurled a tomato pieces of— out about him having hurled a tomato pieces of tomato across the tomato pieces of tomato across ine room— tomato pieces of tomato across ine iner— tomato pieces of tomato across the room that never happened. so, the room that never happened. so, vow— the room that never happened. so, vow know,— the room that never happened. so, you know, there was a lot of briefing— so, you know, there was a lot of prieiing io — so, you know, there was a lot of briefing to the— so, you know, there was a lot of briefing to the media during inis— briefing to the media during inis ingwirv— briefing to the media during this inquiry where dominic raab had this inquiry where dominic raab nee io— this inquiry where dominic raab nee io veep— this inquiry where dominic raab had to keep quiet— this inquiry where dominic raab had to keep quiet all these negeiive— had to keep quiet all these negative drip,— had to keep quiet all these negative drip, drip, drip of siories— negative drip, drip, drip of siories ,— negative drip, drip, drip of stories , some— negative drip, drip, drip of stories , some of which have stories, some of which have iwrnei— stories, some of which have iwrnei owi— stories, some of which have turned out subsequently to be eornpiereiv— turned out subsequently to be completely untrue. and i wonder wnei— completely untrue. and i wonder wnei previows— completely untrue. and i wonder what previous leaders would make of what previous leaders would make or inis. — what previous leaders would make of this. gordon _ what previous leaders would make of this. gordon brown,- what previous leaders would make of this. c: of this. gordon brown, of course, wasn't averse to throwing things in meetings, pens, mobile phones, coke cans. what do think people like what do you think people like margaret thatcher and winston churchill fight them on

churchill would fight them on the beaches? that probably be a hate say that. now, hate crime to say that. now, surely just too surely this has just gone too far. if you want to work far. if you if you want to work in politics, you to have a in politics, you need to have a thick skin. well, that's certainly very true. and i think winsion— certainly very true. and i think winston churchill— certainly very true. and i think winston churchill and- f wig and i think winston churchill and margaret ineiener— winston churchill and margaret thatcher probably wouldn't be eiie— thatcher probably wouldn't be eiie io— thatcher probably wouldn't be able to believe— thatcher probably wouldn't be able to believe their ears if inev— able to believe their ears if inev sowin— able to believe their ears if they could hear— able to believe their ears if they could hear that this was inis— they could hear that this was we son— they could hear that this was we son or— they could hear that this was this sort of behaviour was now iwigei— this sort of behaviour was now iwegei—nwi- this sort of behaviour was now iwegei—nwi or- judged as bullying. but of course times— judged as bullying. but of course times have changed. i mean, when winston have they onengei— mean, when winston have they onengei for— mean, when winston have they changed for the— mean, when winston have they changed for the better or for ine— changed for the better or for we — changed for the better or for the worse? well,- changed for the better or for the worse? viticc changed for the better or for the worse? well, a lot of people would think for the better. i mean, in school used to be mean, kids in school used to be oenei— mean, kids in school used to be oeneilwiinin— mean, kids in school used to be canedlwithin an— mean, kids in school used to be caned within an inch of their caned to within an inch of their iives— caned to within an inch of their iives ween-i— caned to within an inch of their lives, weren't they? and that regeriei— lives, weren't they? and that was regarded as— lives, weren't they? and that was regarded as fine . whereas was regarded as fine. whereas ieeeners— was regarded as fine. whereas now teachers are _ was regarded as fine. whereas now teachers are not allowed and the now teachers are not allowed and we neioriiv— now teachers are not allowed and we neiorirv oi— now teachers are not allowed and the majority of people would ininv— the majority of people would ininv iner— the majority of people would think that that's— the majority of people would think that that's progress. but of vow— think that that's progress. but of course, you know, there is a fine— of course, you know, there is a fine iine— of course, you know, there is a fine we, isn-i— of course, you know, there is a fine line, isn't there? and inere— fine line, isn't there? and inere wiri— fine line, isn't there? and there will be— fine line, isn't there? and there will be people that think this there will be people that think inis nes— there will be people that think we nes gone— there will be people that think this has gone too— there will be people that think this has gone too far and that you— this has gone too far and that vow sen-i— this has gone too far and that vow sen-r sev— this has gone too far and that you can't say anything really or do you can't say anything really or no envrning— you can't say anything really or do anything without somebody seving— do anything without somebody seving inev-re— do anything without somebody saying they're offended. so ion-r— saying they're offended. so non-r forger— saying they're offended. so don't forget, if— saying they're offended. so don't forget, if you - saying they're offended. so don't forget, if you want to see that full interview, olivia utley a had a great scoop

utley had a had a great scoop with roberts, the 30 with dominic roberts, the 30 minute long whopper. make your mind our youtube mind up. that's on our youtube channel news. to the channel at gb news. on to the other of the day now, other big story of the day now, catherine, head of royal catherine, the head of the royal college of nursing, has branded steve barclay, the health secretary, cruel as he is set secretary, as cruel as he is set to pursue action to stop to pursue legal action to stop nurses. striking says he is treating them like criminals catherine. so rob is a bully and now barclay is cruel. what's this strike about it? yes. so there is due to be- this strike about it? yes. so there is due to be a- this strike about it? yes. so there is due to be a 48- 7 yes. so there is due to be a 48 hour swive— there is due to be a 48 hour sirive by— there is due to be a 48 hour srrive by ine— there is due to be a 48 hour strike by the royal college of wwrsing— strike by the royal college of nursing beginning next week end and nursing beginning next week end eni ine— nursing beginning next week end and the health— nursing beginning next week end and the health secretary, steve persev— and the health secretary, steve pereiev, is— and the health secretary, steve barclay is no— and the health secretary, steve barclay, is now seeking an iniwneiion— barclay, is now seeking an injunction from _ barclay, is now seeking an injunction from the high court to injunction from the high court io siop— injunction from the high court io siop ii.— injunction from the high court ro srop in wow— injunction from the high court to stop it. now the technical reason for this— to stop it. now the technical reason for this is— to stop it. now the technical reason for this is because nhs posses— reason for this is because nhs poses sev— reason for this is because nhs bosses say that— reason for this is because nhs bosses say that the strike is iiiegei— bosses say that the strike is illegal because _ bosses say that the strike is illegal because the six month nenieie— illegal because the six month mandate that— illegal because the six month mandate that the nursing union had mandate that the nursing union nee expires— mandate that the nursing union had expires during the strike. wow— had expires during the strike. wow ine— had expires during the strike. now the government's argument is that now the government's argument is we inev-re— now the government's argument is that they're actually— now the government's argument is that they're actually trying to propen— that they're actually trying to proreei ine — that they're actually trying to protect the nurses because if its— protect the nurses because if is e— protect the nurses because if is e iegei— protect the nurses because if is e iegei ,— protect the nurses because if is e iegei , ii— protect the nurses because if it's a legal, it could lead to

men— it's a legal, it could lead to pen peing— it's a legal, it could lead to them being losing their registration.— them being losing their registration. but of course the nwrsing— registration. but of course the nursing unions— registration. but of course the nursing unions having none of ipis— nursing unions having none of inis. risi— nursing unions having none of inis. rirsi or— nursing unions having none of this. first of all,— nursing unions having none of this. first of all, they believe iner— this. first of all, they believe we ii— this. first of all, they believe we ii is— this. first of all, they believe that it is legal.— this. first of all, they believe that it is legal. they're citing some precedent— that it is legal. they're citing some precedent from during the miners strike.— some precedent from during the miners strike. and— some precedent from during the miners strike. and also they reei— miners strike. and also they feel passionately that they're not feel passionately that they're nor peing— feel passionately that they're not being offered enough money. but not being offered enough money. pwi inere-s— not being offered enough money. but there's massive concerns, noi— but there's massive concerns, nor vwsi— but there's massive concerns, nor rwsi rrorn — but there's massive concerns, not just from within the peperirneni— not just from within the department of health , but across department of health, but across the department of health, but across ine poeri— department of health, but across ine poet or— department of health, but across the board of the— department of health, but across the board of the fact that the nwrsing— the board of the fact that the nursing union— the board of the fact that the nursing union has now said next pinne— nursing union has now said next iirne inev— nursing union has now said next iirne inev wipi— nursing union has now said next time they will not— nursing union has now said next time they will not be providing oriiieei— time they will not be providing critical care _ time they will not be providing critical care ,— time they will not be providing critical care , a&e— time they will not be providing critical care , a&e care, cancer critical care, a&e care, cancer inev— critical care, a&e care, cancer inev ee— critical care, a&e care, cancer care. they are removing those is verv— care. they are removing those is very verv— care. they are removing those is very, very important . life very, very important. life seving— very, very important. life saving elements . 'r: very, very important. life saving elements . ' r: r::::r very, very important. life— saving elements . and how do you saving elements. and how do you think that will affect the court of public opinion? because people have been very tolerant, very patient and very supportive indeed nurses until this indeed of nurses until this point. if people are denied point. but if people are denied critical might critical care, things might change. erg i think they might weii— change. erg i think they might well, because— change. erg i think they might well, because i— change. erg i think they might well, because i think- fg erg i think they might well, because i think up to now, epowi— well, because i think up to now, epowi pene— well, because i think up to now, epowi pone oi— well, because i think up to now, about 56% of people have swpporiei— about 56% of people have swpporiee ine— about 56% of people have supported the nurses slightly iess— supported the nurses slightly iess inen— supported the nurses slightly less than 40 _ supported the nurses slightly less than 40 something for the iwnior— less than 40 something for the junior doctors.— less than 40 something for the junior doctors. but— less than 40 something for the junior doctors. but but if peopie— junior doctors. but but if peopie-io— junior doctors. but but if people-to die- junior doctors. but but if people to die as a result people start to die as a result

of inp— people start to die as a result or we ,— people start to die as a result or we , ii— people start to die as a result of this , if lives— people start to die as a result of this , if lives are genuinely of this, if lives are genuinely put— of this, if lives are genuinely pwi ei— of this, if lives are genuinely pwr er risk,— of this, if lives are genuinely put at risk, then— of this, if lives are genuinely put at risk, then surely that swppon— put at risk, then surely that swppori wipi— put at risk, then surely that support will start to drop. now of course, the _ support will start to drop. now of course, the nurses say people are of course, the nurses say people dying— of course, the nurses say people eving envwev— of course, the nurses say people are dying anyway because they ion-i— are dying anyway because they ion-i neve— are dying anyway because they don't have the— are dying anyway because they don't have the staff, they don't neve— don't have the staff, they don't neve ine— don't have the staff, they don't have the resources— don't have the staff, they don't have the resources . is that's have the resources. is that's ineir— have the resources. is that's their argument— have the resources. is that's their argument .— have the resources. is that's their argument. but have the resources. is that's their argument . but clearly, if their argument. but clearly, if you— their argument. but clearly, if you remove that— their argument. but clearly, if you remove that critical care, now— you remove that critical care, now sen— you remove that critical care, how can there— you remove that critical care, how can there not— you remove that critical care, how can there not be a massive risk— how can there not be a massive risk io— how can there not be a massive risk to patients?— how can there not be a massive risk to patients? and that of course is what— risk to patients? and that of course is what the nhs bosses are so very worried about . are so very worried about. okay— are so very worried about. okay, catherine— are so very worried about. okay, catherine forster,- are so very worried about. okay, catherine forster, thanks for joining me today on gb news forjoining me today on gb news saturday. it's worth pointing out, of course, .uk rob denies all of bullying allegations, out, of course, .uk rob denies alllet's bullying allegations, out, of course, .uk rob denies alllet's b|whatg allegations, out, of course, .uk rob denies alllet's b|whatg alle comes, out, of course, .uk rob denies alllet's b|whatg alle comes out so let's see what more comes out of this story as the days roll on. suspect there may more on. i suspect there may be more to next story. now, to come. to our next story. now, today 30th anniversary today marks the 30th anniversary of of stephen of the racist murder of stephen lawrence, stabbed to lawrence, who was stabbed to death while waiting for a bus in eltham in south—east london this morning. family a morning. his family held a memorial service at saint martin in church in in the fields church in trafalgar in london. trafalgar square in london. well, let's now cross over to trafalgar square speak gb trafalgar square and speak to gb news national reporter paul hawkins. afternoon to you, hawkins. good afternoon to you, paul hawkins. good afternoon to you, paul. can you give us a flavour of happened at today's

of what's happened at today's service and the mood is service and what the mood is over ? yeah, it finished at over there? yeah, it finished at eowni— over there? yeah, it finished at eowni epowi— over there? yeah, it finished at around about 1230.— over there? yeah, it finished at around about 1230. it- signg7’ yeah, it finished at around about 1230. it was srgng7’ yeah, it finished at around about 1230. it was packed pere— around about 1230. it was packed nere ei— around about 1230. it was packed nere er si— around about 1230. it was packed here at st martin— around about 1230. it was packed here at st martin in— around about 1230. it was packed here at st martin in the fields ripen— here at st martin in the fields iiiiei wiri— here at st martin in the fields filled with people from all weiks— filled with people from all weiks oi— filled with people from all walks of society . some very high walks of society. some very high proiiie— walks of society. some very high proiiie ieos— walks of society. some very high profile actors ,— walks of society. some very high profile actors , musicians, profile actors, musicians, eeiepriiies— profile actors, musicians, celebrities can- profile actors, musicians, celebrities can campaigners, poiiiieiens— celebrities can campaigners, politicians, all— celebrities can campaigners, politicians, all connected to siepnen— politicians, all connected to stephen lawrence and the stephen lawrence foundation . and the lawrence foundation. and the sow— lawrence foundation. and the siorv oi— lawrence foundation. and the story of stephen— lawrence foundation. and the story of stephen lawrence and indeed— story of stephen lawrence and indeed ine— story of stephen lawrence and indeed the ongoing campaign to rigni— indeed the ongoing campaign to rigni ine— indeed the ongoing campaign to right the inequality in society eni— right the inequality in society and campaigning for social iwsiiee— and campaigning for social rwsriee. so— and campaigning for social justice. so before the ceremony , we peeri— justice. so before the ceremony , we heard from _ justice. so before the ceremony , we heard from doreen lawrence . in— , we heard from doreen lawrence . in e— , we heard from doreen lawrence . in a statement,— , we heard from doreen lawrence . in a statement, she said she iiiiei— . in a statement, she said she was filled with— . in a statement, she said she was filled with immense pride to wiiness— was filled with immense pride to wiiness eii— was filled with immense pride to witness all that— was filled with immense pride to witness all that had been eenievei— witness all that had been achieved in— witness all that had been achieved in stephen's name . yet achieved in stephen's name. yet we rnwsi— achieved in stephen's name. yet we rnwsi eiso— achieved in stephen's name. yet we must also acknowledge the work— we must also acknowledge the work iner— we must also acknowledge the work pier-io— we must also acknowledge the work that .to i done. - we must also acknowledge the work that to done. the work that still to be done. the inegweiiiv— work that still to be done. the inequality that— work that still to be done. the inequality that persists in our issio— inequality that persists in our io— inequality that persists in our mission to create— inequality that persists in our mission to create a world free iron — mission to create a world free from discrimination which oniriwes— from discrimination which continues now.- from discrimination which continues now. there were really ivo— continues now. there were really iwo poinis— continues now. there were really iwo poinis io— continues now. there were really two points to this— continues now. there were really two points to this service . two points to this service. opviowsiv— two points to this service. obviously there was talk that

inev— obviously there was talk that inev — obviously there was talk that they were talking about policing and they were talking about policing eni epowi— they were talking about policing and about race— they were talking about policing and about race relations and epowi— and about race relations and epowi wnere— and about race relations and about where the— and about race relations and about where the next 30 years go. pwi— about where the next 30 years go. pwi inere— about where the next 30 years go. but there was— about where the next 30 years go. but there was also and this is orien— go. but there was also and this is often overlooked, who stephen ne— is often overlooked, who stephen ne is— is often overlooked, who stephen was. he was 18 years old when he rnwrierei— was. he was 18 years old when he was murdered by— was. he was 18 years old when he was murdered by a— was. he was 18 years old when he was murdered by a gang of racist inwgs— was murdered by a gang of racist inwgs in— was murdered by a gang of racist inwgs in reps. — was murdered by a gang of racist thugs in 1993. only— was murdered by a gang of racist thugs in 1993. only two of which neve— thugs in 1993. only two of which have ever been— thugs in 1993. only two of which have ever been sentenced for his rnrwei. — have ever been sentenced for his rnweri ne— have ever been sentenced for his rnweri ne es— have ever been sentenced for his murder. he was someone who siwiiei— murder. he was someone who siwiiei en— murder. he was someone who studied art and— murder. he was someone who studied art and design. he was inro— studied art and design. he was inio rnwsie— studied art and design. he was inio ,— studied art and design. he was into music , r&b,_ studied art and design. he was into music , r&b, soul. he was into music, r&b, soul. he was big— into music, r&b, soul. he was pig inro— into music, r&b, soul. he was pig inio pis— into music, r&b, soul. he was big into his athletics, also a verv— big into his athletics, also a verv goon— big into his athletics, also a very good swimmer, according to his very good swimmer, according to nis rnwrn— very good swimmer, according to nis ani— very good swimmer, according to his mum. and so— very good swimmer, according to his mum. and so they were remembering— his mum. and so they were remembering who he was and what he remembering who he was and what ne sowin— remembering who he was and what ne eowii neve— remembering who he was and what he could have been.— remembering who he was and what he could have been. now we were spending— he could have been. now we were standing outside— he could have been. now we were standing outside the church wniie— standing outside the church while-service- standing outside the church while service was going on while the service was going on eni— while the service was going on end peopie— while the service was going on and people were— while the service was going on and people were stopping to ask to and people were stopping to ask io-io— and people were stopping to ask io-ioiani— and people were stopping to ask to-to-and-chap. and people were stopping to ask. to _to .and .chap who to speak to us. and one chap who sioppei— to speak to us. and one chap who sroppei-e— to speak to us. and one chap who stopped-a-called- stopped was a guy called dave wno—wesl who was down here. he was rwnning— who was down here. he was rwnning ine— who was down here. he was running the london marathon from the running the london marathon from ine—eiso- the lake district, but he also weniei— the lake district, but he also wenieilsiop— the lake district, but he also wanted-stop and- the lake district, but he also wanted stop and give some wanted to stop and give some flowers— wanted to stop and give some iiowers io— wanted to stop and give some flowers to doreen— wanted to stop and give some flowers to doreen and flowers to doreen lawrence. and he flowers to doreen lawrence. and ne-inei. — flowers to doreen lawrence. and ne-inei. piper- flowers to doreen lawrence. and he _that. after the - he did just that. after the service— he did just that. after the service _this. he did just that. after the service _this what service ended. and this is what he service ended. and this is what ne—e- service ended. and this is what ne—e pwnenl service ended. and this is whati ne—e pwnen oi he told us. i bought a bunch of flowers— he told us. i bought a bunch of flowers, which— he told us. i bought a bunch of flowers, which i— he told us. i bought a bunch of flowers, which i just wanted to give— flowers, which i just wanted to give sonne— flowers, which i just wanted to give io. — flowers, which i just wanted to give some to. f give some to. baroness lawrence , just as a little sort of

thought of something really, you know, just something from the heart. i was lucky that i heart. and i was lucky that i managed to catch her just coming out of the out of the church and was able to sort of hand them to her and just said, you know, i just wanted to give these, just wanted to give you these, you your thoughts and you know, in your thoughts and my your my thoughts of you and your occasion. said, occasion. and she just said, thank and that was it. thank you. so and that was it. i just think it was a it was just a tragic occurrence at the time. and you know, to which sort of major occurrences that happened at the time as well. but that one was more than i think more than sort of like incredible because obviously the justice that or the injustice, you could say that probably occurred afterwards. you know, and obviously after that, there are instances which are still occurring today. and you know, which are, you know, i'm sure there's many people like baroness lawrence, but because of in the position they're in, you know, i guess it sort of bnngs you know, i guess it sort of brings it to the media brings it to the to the media attention , obviously, for who attention, obviously, for who she and obviously who her she is and obviously who her husband is . and, you know, and

husband is. and, you know, and obviously major thoughts for her and her family for today. obviously major thoughts for her and her family for today . yeah. and her family for today. yeah. so this memorial service coming on, stephen lawrence day, which is marked every year, but particularly because it's 30 years since it happened , it's years since it happened, it's important that that message and the story of stephen lawrence is told to a younger generation. today, we heard from the london iievon— today, we heard from the london mayorv perig— today, we heard from the london mayor, sadiq _who - today, we heard from the london mayor, sadiq who were mayor, sadiq khan, who were refined— mayor, sadiq khan, who were reaffirmed really— mayor, sadiq khan, who were reaffirmed really what was said in ine— reaffirmed really what was said in we cesev— reaffirmed really what was said in the casey report recently iner— in the casey report recently pier-irer— in the casey report recently that met remains that the met remains institutionally . he that the met remains- institutionally-. he said institutionally racist. he said he institutionally racist. he said ne sein— institutionally racist. he said ne seii ne— institutionally racist. he said he said he won't— institutionally racist. he said he said he won't rest until we've drained— he said he won't rest until we've drained the poison of reeisrn-eii— we've drained the poison of racism-all our- we've drained the poison of racism all our communities racism and all our communities neve— racism and all our communities neve-in— racism and all our communities neve-in ow— racism and all our communities have-in our police. - racism and all our communities have in our police. and we have trust in our police. and we eiso— have trust in our police. and we eiso peeri— have trust in our police. and we also heard .the _ have trust in our police. and we also heard the labour have trust in our police. and we also he sir the labour have trust in our police. and we also he sir keir the labour have trust in our police. and we also he sir keir starmer our have trust in our police. and we also he sir keir starmer ,ur have trust in our police. and we also he sir keir starmer , who leader, sir keir starmer, who geve— leader, sir keir starmer, who geve e— leader, sir keir starmer, who geve e snori— leader, sir keir starmer, who gave a short speech and read a poem— gave a short speech and read a poem regwesiei— gave a short speech and read a poem requested by baroness lawrence, who _ poem requested by baroness lawrence, who was obviously inere— lawrence, who was obviously inere eiong— lawrence, who was obviously there along with— lawrence, who was obviously there along with the rest of the lawrence family— there along with the rest of the lawrence family .— there along with the rest of the lawrence family . and he said it lawrence family. and he said it eoniresiei— lawrence family. and he said it contrasted the _ lawrence family. and he said it contrasted the loss of stephen lawrence contrasted against the verv— lawrence contrasted against the verv worsi— lawrence contrasted against the verv worsi sine— lawrence contrasted against the very worst side of— lawrence contrasted against the very worst side of britain and ine— very worst side of britain and pie poss— very worst side of britain and pie ioss oi— very worst side of britain and the loss of stephen lawrence was a the loss of stephen lawrence was e iire— the loss of stephen lawrence was e iiie wnion — the loss of stephen lawrence was a life which shone— the loss of stephen lawrence was a life which shone with the iigni— a life which shone with the iigni oi— a life which shone with the light of potential and really,

pier-s— light of potential and really, inei-s ine— light of potential and really, that's the message from the siepnen— that's the message from the stephen lawrence foundation, iner— stephen lawrence foundation, pier—inev-vel that going forward, they've been set that going forward, they've been sei-eni— that going forward, they've been set-and engineer- set up to try and engineer more opporiwniiies— set up to try and engineer more opportunities people, opportunities for young people, espeeieiiv— opportunities for young people, especially from _ opportunities for young people, especially from marginalised communities,— especially from marginalised communities, and that that snowin— communities, and that that. should—lawrence's should be stephen lawrence's iegeev— should be stephen lawrence's legacy going— should be stephen lawrence's legacy going forward, as well as improving— legacy going forward, as well as improving policing and race reieiions— improving policing and race relations in— improving policing and race relations in the— improving policing and race relations in the uk . relations in the uk. paul newkins— relations in the uk. paul hawkins from trafalgar square, thank you very much for that report. well, joining now is report. well, joining me now is ken hines, chair of the haringey independent stop and search monitoring . good afternoon monitoring group. good afternoon to you. thanks for joining monitoring group. good afternoon to you. thanks forjoining us. to you. thanks for joining us. on the specific issue of stop and search, sir, we've seen a 10% increase in knife crimes last year, 34% increase since . last year, 34% increase since. 2010, 45,000 offences in england and wales involving sharp knives. surely stop and search is an essential tool in helping to bring that down. first of all, i want to send- to bring that down. first of all, i want to send out- g : first of all, i want to send out my condolences— all, i want to send out my condolences to— all, i want to send out my condolences to the to the lawrence family at and to those eiieeiei— lawrence family at and to those eiieeiei pv— lawrence family at and to those affected by stephen lawrence. senseiess— affected by stephen lawrence. senseless murder—

affected by stephen lawrence. senseless murder and- affected by stephen lawrence. senseless murder and the- affected by stephen lawrence. senseless murder and the fallout from that , particularly around from that, particularly around police. singh from that, particularly around police . singh now, you mentioned police. singh now, you mentioned eowni— police. singh now, you mentioned eowni siop— police. singh now, you mentioned eowni siop eni— itig singh now, you mentioned around stop and search now stop eni— around stop and search now stop eni seein— around stop and search now stop eni seern es— around stop and search now stop and search was around in his pine— and search was around in his iirne ,— and search was around in his iirne , pwi— and search was around in his time , but stephen would have time, but stephen would have peen— time, but stephen would have been more than— time, but stephen would have been more than likely been sroppei— been more than likely been sroppee eni— been more than likely been stopped and searched then the perperreior— stopped and searched then the perpetrator who _ stopped and searched then the perpetrator who committed that eroieiows — perpetrator who committed that eroieiows wrn— perpetrator who committed that atrocious, um ,— perpetrator who committed that atrocious, um , crime on stephen atrocious, um, crime on stephen noi— atrocious, um, crime on stephen nor io— atrocious, um, crime on stephen nor io gei— atrocious, um, crime on stephen um, not to get to— atrocious, um, crime on stephen um, not to get to where we are ioiev— um, not to get to where we are ioiev io— um, not to get to where we are roeev io pini— um, not to get to where we are today to find out— um, not to get to where we are today to find out 30 years on wnei— today to find out 30 years on we nes— today to find out 30 years on what has really— today to find out 30 years on what has really moved on to stop eni— what has really moved on to stop eni seeren — what has really moved on to stop and search. we've— what has really moved on to stop and search. we've we've heard epowi— and search. we've we've heard epowi vow— and search. we've we've heard about your figures— and search. we've we've heard about your figures that you rneniionei— about your figures that you mentioned about about the knife pieiei— mentioned about about the knife bladed violence— mentioned about about the knife bladed violence that still piegwe— bladed violence that still piegwe ow— bladed violence that still plague our society and stop and seen— plague our society and stop and seen nes— plague our society and stop and search has really— plague our society and stop and search has really done very iiiiie— search has really done very iiiiie io— search has really done very iiiiie io gei— search has really done very little to get ahead of that. my ining— little to get ahead of that. my ining is— little to get ahead of that. my king is sirnpiv— little to get ahead of that. my thing is simply because what inev— thing is simply because what inev wse— thing is simply because what inev es— thing is simply because what they use as as— thing is simply because what they use as as a— thing is simply because what they use as as a as a continuing reason for having— they use as as a as a continuing reason for having stops and seen— reason for having stops and search particularly on the black

oornrnwniiv— search particularly on the black community. it's— search particularly on the black community. it's the same. well, we're more likely— community. it's the same. well, we're more likely to be victims eni— we're more likely to be victims and perpetrators— we're more likely to be victims and perpetrators of knife crime . nwr— and perpetrators of knife crime . pwi my— and perpetrators of knife crime . pwr rnv ining— and perpetrators of knife crime . but my thing is— and perpetrators of knife crime . but my thing is simply this why— . but my thing is simply this wnv e— . but my thing is simply this wnv ewpv— . but my thing is simply this wnv ewnv re,— . but my thing is simply this why 7 why 40, 30 . but my thing is simply this why ? why 40, 30 years later are why? why 40, 30 years later are we spiki— why? why 40, 30 years later are we still having— why? why 40, 30 years later are we still having this? and my ring— we still having this? and my ining is— we still having this? and my king is is— we still having this? and my thing is, is that— we still having this? and my thing is, is that if you if i ine— thing is, is that if you if i was the ceo— thing is, is that if you if i was the ceo of- thing is, is that if you if i was the ceo of any company and wnion— was the ceo of any company and wnion iee— was the ceo of any company and wnion iei io— was the ceo of any company and which led to four— was the ceo of any company and which led to four out of five siops— which led to four out of five siops eni— which led to four out of five stops and search— which led to four out of five stops and search leading to no erressi— stops and search leading to no enesis , my— stops and search leading to no erresrs , rnv rop— stops and search leading to no arrests , my job would be arrests, my job would be unattainable— arrests, my job would be unattainable .- arrests, my job would be unattainable . all right. and so unattainable. all right. and so my unattainable. all right. and so rnv rping— unattainable. all right. and so rnv king is— unattainable. all right. and so my thing is simply this. don't get my thing is simply this. don't gei ne— my thing is simply this. don't ger me wrong— my thing is simply this. don't ger me wrong .— my thing is simply this. don't get me wrong . uh, there is get me wrong. uh, there is a piece— get me wrong. uh, there is a piece for— get me wrong. uh, there is a piece for srop— get me wrong. uh, there is a place for stop and search. but if place for stop and search. but i were— place for stop and search. but i going— place for stop and search. but if we're going to— place for stop and search. but if we're going to use stop and seeren— if we're going to use stop and seeren ier-s— if we're going to use stop and search, let's use— if we're going to use stop and search, let's use it— if we're going to use stop and search, let's use it first and iorernosi— search, let's use it first and iorenosi in— search, let's use it first and foremost in diligently intending gonn— foremost in diligently intending ronn cieese— foremost in diligently intending john cleese simply means that wnei— john cleese simply means that we we— john cleese simply means that what we don't— john cleese simply means that what we don't do— john cleese simply means that what we don't do is just have reeiei— what we don't do is just have racial profiling— what we don't do is just have racial profiling .— what we don't do is just have racial profiling . because racial racial profiling. because racial proiiiing— racial profiling. because racial proiiiing geis— racial profiling. because racial profiling gets you nowhere. weii— profiling gets you nowhere. war, ken— profiling gets you nowhere. war, ken ,— profiling gets you nowhere. well, ken , on— profiling gets you nowhere. well, ken , on that point, one of well, ken, on that point, one of the well, ken, on that point, one of pie nosi— well, ken, on that point, one of the most successful clampdowns on knife— the most successful clampdowns on knife crime— the most successful clampdowns on knife crime in— the most successful clampdowns on knife crime in british nisiorv— on knife crime in british nisrorv es— on knife crime in british history was in- on knife crime in british history was in glasgow . history was in glasgow. as you all history was in glasgow. as you eii know.— history was in glasgow. as you eii know. in— history was in glasgow. as you all know, in 2005,— history was in glasgow. as you all know, in 2005, the violence reduction unit there stamped out knife crime and it had a lot of

stop and search the offender profile. there was 93% of those people stopped were white working class lads because they were known perpetrators who were the known perpetrators who fitted profiles in fitted offender profiles in certain areas. and you're right about the racial makeup of perpetrators in london, 13% of the population are from a black origin, but 45% of people murdered are black young men. 61% of perpetrators . so by that 61% of perpetrators. so by that reckoning and following from glasgow's lead, is it not a fair assumption to make the stopping and searching young black men? isn't about racial profiling. it's about trying to save lives. of those most likely to die . of those most likely to die. let me say this marks the inference— let me say this marks the difference between the glasgow ieee— difference between the glasgow ieee eni— difference between the glasgow lead and what's— difference between the glasgow lead and what's happening here in ionion— lead and what's happening here in ionion is— lead and what's happening here in london is, is— lead and what's happening here in london is, is the racial rnekewp— in london is, is the racial rnekewp. ine— in london is, is the racial makeup. the people that were iner— makeup. the people that were we ee— makeup. the people that were that are police— makeup. the people that were that are police in— makeup. the people that were that are police in scotland are eiso— that are police in scotland are eiso e— that are police in scotland are eiso e peri— that are police in scotland are eiso e pen or— that are police in scotland are also a part of the— that are police in scotland are also a part of the mix of that verv— also a part of the mix of that verv see— also a part of the mix of that very same community. so you sen-i— very same community. so you sent reki— very same community. so you can't tell one— very same community. so you can't tell one from the other. pwi— can't tell one from the other. pwi wnei— can't tell one from the other. pwi we we — can't tell one from the other. but what we have here quite eieeriv— but what we have here quite eieeriv is— but what we have here quite eieeriv is e— but what we have here quite clearly is a different slant

wnere— clearly is a different slant wnere ine— clearly is a different slant where the people who are saying inev-re— where the people who are saying inev-re irving— where the people who are saying inev-re rrving ro— where the people who are saying they're trying to best safeguard us they're trying to best safeguard ws ine— they're trying to best safeguard ws ine verv— they're trying to best safeguard us are the very same people who we peiieve— us are the very same people who we believe are— us are the very same people who we believe are our— us are the very same people who we believe are our tormentors. wnei— we believe are our tormentors. wnei wnei— we believe are our tormentors. we we r— we believe are our tormentors. what what i think— we believe are our tormentors. what what i think people fail to reeiise— what what i think people fail to reeiise eni— what what i think people fail to realise and it— what what i think people fail to realise and it wasn't just ioewssei— realise and it wasn't just focussed on— realise and it wasn't just focussed on stop and search, it inere— focussed on stop and search, it was there had— focussed on stop and search, it was there had other aspects to it was there had other aspects to i iron — was there had other aspects to i iron eii— was there had other aspects to it from all sectors— was there had other aspects to it from all sectors of the eornrnwniiv. — it from all sectors of the community. we're talking about gress— community. we're talking about gress roois— community. we're talking about grass roots groups, we're ieiking— grass roots groups, we're talking about— grass roots groups, we're talking about schools, we're ieiking— talking about schools, we're talking about— talking about schools, we're talking about from the, um, from the establishment— talking about from the, um, from the establishment that that all got the establishment that that all goi rogeiner— the establishment that that all goi rogeiner io, — the establishment that that all got together to, to put a stamp on i.— got together to, to put a stamp on i. pwi— got together to, to put a stamp on it. but what— got together to, to put a stamp on it. but what we— got together to, to put a stamp on it. but what we find here ewire— on it. but what we find here gwiie oieeriv— on it. but what we find here quite clearly, because we, we ini— quite clearly, because we, we iine peopie— quite clearly, because we, we iine peopie oi— quite clearly, because we, we find people of colour are are eesv— find people of colour are are eesv iegei,— find people of colour are are eesv iergei, we— find people of colour are are easy target, we find that 30 veers— easy target, we find that 30 veers on— easy target, we find that 30 years on from _ easy target, we find that 30 years on from stephen lawrence nweri— years on from stephen lawrence murder we're still— years on from stephen lawrence murder we're still being singled out murder we're still being singled owi io— murder we're still being singled owi io sev— murder we're still being singled owi io sev iner— murder we're still being singled out to say that we _ murder we're still being singled out to say that we are the bad guys— out to say that we are the bad ngs pewse— out to say that we are the bad guys because they can't tell the good — guys because they can't tell the good ngs— guys because they can't tell the good ngs iron — guys because they can't tell the good guys from the bad guys all the good guys from the bad guys all we seie— good guys from the bad guys all we ine— good guys from the bad guys all the seize the black— good guys from the bad guys all the seize the black guy. and pier-s— the seize the black guy. and that's enough— the seize the black guy. and that's enough to— the seize the black guy. and that's enough to give them a siop— that's enough to give them a siop eni— that's enough to give them a stop and search— that's enough to give them a stop and search and don't get me wong— stop and search and don't get me wong ii— stop and search and don't get me wong ii inev— stop and search and don't get me wrong, if they will— stop and search and don't get me wrong, if they will find the knives—

wrong, if they will find the knives in— wrong, if they will find the knives in the— wrong, if they will find the knives in the numbers to justify the knives in the numbers to justify ine siop— knives in the numbers to justify ine siop eni— knives in the numbers to justify the stop and search, i'll we be i the stop and search, i'll we be iwowii— the stop and search, i'll we be iwowii pe— the stop and search, i'll we be iwowii pe in— the stop and search, i'll we be i would be in favour. but i know iner— i would be in favour. but i know we on— i would be in favour. but i know that on average— i would be in favour. but i know that on average they're taking up that on average they're taking wp iree, — that on average they're taking wp iree, iowr— that on average they're taking up three, four knives per porowgn— up three, four knives per porowgn per— up three, four knives per borough per month. now, in neringev— borough per month. now, in neringev inev— borough per month. now, in haringey they may lead to 800 siops— haringey they may lead to 800 siops eni— haringey they may lead to 800 stops and search.— haringey they may lead to 800 stops and search. can you inegine— stops and search. can you inegine .— stops and search. can you imagine . and— stops and search. can you imagine . and getting a return on imagine. and getting a return on inree— imagine. and getting a return on inree knives. — imagine. and getting a return on three knives. i— imagine. and getting a return on three knives. i can— imagine. and getting a return on three knives. i can tell you rip— three knives. i can tell you this grassroots— three knives. i can tell you this grassroots groups that's ieking— this grassroots groups that's ieking more— this grassroots groups that's taking more knives off of those young— taking more knives off of those young pimple— taking more knives off of those young people in_ taking more knives off of those young people in our community eni— young people in our community eni ine— young people in our community end we vowng— young people in our community and the young people to take the knives— and the young people to take the knives oii— and the young people to take the knives off are— and the young people to take the knives off are less— and the young people to take the knives off are less likely to rearm themselves . what they're rearm themselves. what they're ieking— rearm themselves. what they're ieiiing ine— rearm themselves. what they're telling me about— rearm themselves. what they're telling me about the police , if telling me about the police, if the telling me about the police, if we poiiee— telling me about the police, if the police are— telling me about the police, if the police are taking a knife off the police are taking a knife oii oi— the police are taking a knife oii oi ipern— the police are taking a knife off of them, i'd— the police are taking a knife off of them, i'd much prefer to be off of them, i'd much prefer to pe eewgni— off of them, i'd much prefer to be caught with— off of them, i'd much prefer to be caught with knife by the be caught with my knife by the poise— be caught with my knife by the poise-pe— be caught with my knife by the police-be caught- be caught with my knife by the police be caught by my police than be caught by my opposiiion— police than be caught by my opposition without it, because sowin— opposition without it, because eown-io— opposition without it, because one could to going one could lead to me going to my greve— one could lead to me going to my geve—sowin- grave and the other could be keen— grave and the other could be keen io— grave and the other could be keen io ne— grave and the other could be lead to me being judged by 12 of my lead to me being judged by 12 of rnv peers — lead to me being judged by 12 of rnv peers -ken— lead to me being judged by 12 of my peers. ken thank my peers. okay, ken hines, thank you my peers. okay, ken hines, thank vow—iner— my peers. okay, ken hines, thank you that impassioned you for sharing that impassioned essege— you for sharing that impassioned rnessege—inisl message with us today on this irnporieni— message with us today on this important anniversary. ' r: important anniversary. and of course, metropolitan course, the metropolitan police aren't here to defend themselves, but they have released a statement from commissioner sir mark rowley, which says , 30 years on from which says, 30 years on from stephen lawrence's murder, this

moment prompts reflect moment prompts us to reflect honestly on how policing has responded to the necessary calls for change that have punctuated the three decades. while we the past three decades. while we have made progress, it isn't enough. we have let black communities down. i and the good majority of officers are resolved to finally make the met's anti—racist met's determinedly anti—racist and anti—discrimination of all kinds . you're watching and kinds. you're watching and listening to gb news saturday with myself, martin daubney. lots more to come on today's show, including up to 3 million home owners are facing a potential £1,000 hike in mortgage costs. this comes as bankers are betting on further interest rate rises later in the year to combat soaring inflation. so is the housing market heading for a crash ? we market heading for a crash? we hope not. and then tomorrow , the hope not. and then tomorrow, the uk's new emergency alert service will happen at 3 pm. the test will happen at 3 pm. the test will mean that mobile phones will mean that mobile phones will sound an alert and vibrate alert. but how could this affect major sporting events and even family homes? and then we'll be discussing meghan markle's

letter to the king, where once again she raised concerns about underlying racism in the royal family. all of that after the weather with jonathan. hello there. i'm jonathan- " hello there. i'm jonathan vautrey here wiri— there. i'm jonathan vautrey here wiin vow— there. i'm jonathan vautrey here with your latest— there. i'm jonathan vautrey here with your latest weather update iron — with your latest weather update iron ine — with your latest weather update iron ine irer— with your latest weather update from the met office. some of us neve— from the met office. some of us neve rnenegei— from the met office. some of us have managed to— from the met office. some of us have managed to see some swnsnine— have managed to see some sunshine today,— have managed to see some sunshine today, but for of us it nes— sunshine today, but for of us it pes peen— sunshine today, but for of us it has been largely— sunshine today, but for of us it has been largely cloudy and this nixed— has been largely cloudy and this nixed-is— has been largely cloudy and this nixed-is eii— has been largely cloudy and this mixed-is all-to- has been largely cloudy and this mixed-is all-to low. mixed setup is all due to low presswre-is— mixed setup is all due to low pressure-is-across. mixed setup is all due to low pressure is across the pressure that is sat across the uk pressure that is sat across the iik eni— pressure that is sat across the iik eni inese— pressure that is sat across the uk and these various occluded ionis— uk and these various occluded ironis iner— uk and these various occluded fronts that bringing bands fronts that are bringing bands of fronts that are bringing bands oi-io— fronts that are bringing bands of-to different— fronts that are bringing bands of to different parts of of rain to different parts of pie— of rain to different parts of pie eownirv. — of rain to different parts of the country. this first one across northern ireland into sowinern— across northern ireland into southern scotland and northern ingienp— southern scotland and northern ingieni, wipi— southern scotland and northern england, will continue to bring sorneo-i— england, will continue to bring sorneo-i rein- some outbreaks of rain throughout— some outbreaks of rain throughout and push throughout this evening and push its throughout this evening and push iis-inio— throughout this evening and push iis-inio eees— throughout this evening and push its-into areas of— throughout this evening and push its into areas of northeast its way into areas of northeast seoiieni— its way into areas of northeast peoiieni es— its way into areas of northeast scotland as well. _ its way into areas of northeast scotland as well. further owipreeks— scotland as well. further outbreaks of— scotland as well. further outbreaks of rain throughout the nigni— outbreaks of rain throughout the nigni-pwsn— outbreaks of rain throughout the night-pushlfrom - night will push in from the sowinwesi— night will push in from the southwest across night will push in from the- southwest-across england southwest to move across england and southwest to move across england end—eiwe- southwest to move across england and—cloud. even. southwest to move across england and—cloud. even ifi and wales and the cloud. even if you and wales and the cloud. even if vow wion-i— and wales and the cloud. even if vow wion-i neve— and wales and the cloud. even if you didn't have it— and wales and the cloud. even if you didn't have it throughout the you didn't have it throughout pie-wipi— you didn't have it throughout the .will tend _ you didn't have it throughout the-will tend to- you didn't have it throughout the will tend to build the day, will tend to build owing— the day, will tend to build ewring ine— the day, will tend to build during the night well. so during the night as well. so iner— during the night as well. so that blanket— during the night as well. so that blanket cloud will that blanket of cloud will hold rernpereiwres— that blanket of cloud will hold temperatures most temperatures up and most of us snowin— temperatures up and most of us snowii-irosi— temperatures up and most of us should -frost-but- temperatures up and most of us should frost but we should stay frost free, but we rnigni— should stay frost free, but we rnigni-iown — should stay frost free, but we might. down into - should stay frost free, but we might down into low single might dip down into low single iigwres—rwreii figures in some sheltered rural spois—sierii spots. so a pretty cloudy start to spots. so a pretty cloudy start io swniev— spots. so a pretty cloudy start to sunday morning. the potential for to sunday morning. the potential

ior sonne— to sunday morning. the potential for some slightly— to sunday morning. the potential for some slightly heavier burst of for some slightly heavier burst oi rein— for some slightly heavier burst oi io— for some slightly heavier burst of rain to push— for some slightly heavier burst of rain to push in— for some slightly heavier burst of rain to push in across sowineesi— of rain to push in across southeast england . there's some southeast england. there's some siigni— southeast england. there's some slight uncertainty— southeast england. there's some slight uncertainty in regards to its slight uncertainty in regards to is eveni— slight uncertainty in regards to its exact track. _ slight uncertainty in regards to its exact track. so _ slight uncertainty in regards to its exact track. so do keep up to its exact track. so do keep up io iere— its exact track. so do keep up io eeie wiri— its exact track. so do keep up to date with the— its exact track. so do keep up to date with the forecast if you are to date with the forecast if you rwnning— to date with the forecast if you are running the— to date with the forecast if you are running the london marathon psowes— are running the london marathon showers bubbling— are running the london marathon showers bubbling elsewhere showers bubbling up elsewhere and showers bubbling up elsewhere end-see— showers bubbling up elsewhere and-see further- showers bubbling up elsewhere and see further rain and we'll see further rain pwsning— and we'll see further rain pushing across- and we'll see further rain pushing across northeast seoiieni— pushing across northeast scotland-that- pushing across northeast scotland that could turn scotland and that could turn winirv— scotland and that could turni winirv—growni wintry over the higher ground as weso-e— wintry over the higher ground as we-some colder— wintry over the higher ground as we-some colder air- wintry over the higher ground as we some colder air dig in wintry over the higher ground as we feelinge colder air dig in wintry over the higher ground as we feeling ratherzr air dig in wintry over the higher ground as we feeling rather bitteriig in wintry over the higher ground as we feeling rather bitter in in wintry over the higher ground as we feeling rather bitter in the and feeling rather bitter in the song— and feeling rather bitter in the sirong wines— and feeling rather bitter in the strong winds developing here as weii— strong winds developing here as weii. inis— strong winds developing here as well. this cold— strong winds developing here as well. this cold air— strong winds developing here as well. this cold air is going to pwsn— well. this cold air is going to pwsn irs— well. this cold air is going to pwsn iis wev— well. this cold air is going to push its way southwards across the push its way southwards across pie-oi— push its way southwards across pie-oi ine— push its way southwards across pie-oi ine wk— push its way southwards across the-of the uk as- push its way southwards across the of the uk as we head the rest of the uk as we head inrowgnowi— the rest of the uk as we head throughout sunday and throughout sunday evening and into throughout sunday evening and inio iioniev— throughout sunday evening and inio iioniev .— throughout sunday evening and into monday . the— throughout sunday evening and into monday. the rain continuing to into monday. the rain continuing io-wev— into monday. the rain continuing io-wev oii— into monday. the rain continuing io-wev oii ine - to clear its way off the southeast— to clear its way off the southeast well . some to clear its way off the- southeast.well . some slightly southeast as well. some slightly eieerer— southeast as well. some slightly eieerer speiis— southeast as well. some slightly clearer spells developing here eni— clearer spells developing here eni ipere— clearer spells developing here and there, but— clearer spells developing here and there, but generally a lot of and there, but generally a lot oi crowi— and there, but generally a lot of cloud around— and there, but generally a lot of cloud around again, first ining— of cloud around again, first ining on— of cloud around again, first thing on monday morning . some thing on monday morning. some owipreeks— thing on monday morning. some owipreeks oi— thing on monday morning. some outbreaks of rain— thing on monday morning. some outbreaks of rain persisting inrowgnowi— outbreaks of rain persisting throughout the— outbreaks of rain persisting throughout the day. and again, inose— throughout the day. and again, those showers— throughout the day. and again, those showers now probably iwrning— those showers now probably iwrning io— those showers now probably turning to sleet— those showers now probably turning to sleet even at some power— turning to sleet even at some power ieveis— turning to sleet even at some lower levels across northern scoring.— lower levels across northern scotland. the— lower levels across northern scotland. the briskest winds on iioniev— scotland. the briskest winds on iioniev wipi— scotland. the briskest winds on monday will be— scotland. the briskest winds on monday will be across the eesern — monday will be across the eastern coastal- monday will be across the eastern coastal area where we see-igni— eastern coastal area where we see-tight squeeze- eastern coastal area where we see tight squeeze in the see this tight squeeze in the isopers. — see this tight squeeze in the isopers. pwi— see this tight squeeze in the isobars. but into— see this tight squeeze in the isobars. but into tuesday, there are isobars. but into tuesday, there signs— isobars. but into tuesday, there signs iner— isobars. but into tuesday, there are signs that a— isobars. but into tuesday, there are signs that a ridge of high pressure-start— are signs that a ridge of high

pressure - start to - are signs that a ridge of high pressure start to build in pressure will start to build in eni— pressure will start to build in end-seine— pressure will start to build in and-settle-downl and help settle things down a iowep— and help settle things down a rowen. nwr— and help settle things down a touch. but for— and help settle things down a touch. but for all— and help settle things down a touch. but for all of us in that noriperiv— touch. but for all of us in that northerly flow— touch. but for all of us in that northerly flow of— touch. but for all of us in that northerly flow of air, temperatures are to be temperatures are going to be dropping— temperatures are going to be- dropping—considerably dropping down quite considerably by . dropping down quite considerably by - by—

listening to gb news radio. liens— listening to gb news radio. . hello there. _ listening to gb news radio. i hello there. welcome. listening to gb news radio.- - hello there. welcome back. hello there. welcome back. i'm bethany keeping you up to bethany elsey keeping you up to date the gb newsroom. date from the gb newsroom. here's your latest headlines at 232. foreign office has 232. the foreign office has confirmed the prime minister chaired an emergency cobra meeting morning as fierce meeting this morning as fierce fighting in sudan enters its second week. the country's army claims foreign nationals, including from the uk , us, including from the uk, us, france and china , are to be france and china, are to be evacuated. sudan's military says it will help with the evacuation plans. the world health organisation says more than 400 people have been killed and thousands more injured since violence began. government forces there are battling with a

paramilitary group over control of the capital khartoum . the snp of the capital khartoum. the snp has appointed stuart mcdonald as the party's new treasurer following the resignation of msp colin beattie, mr beattie stepped down after he was arrested by police investigating snp finance hours. he was later released without charge. the party's former chief executive , party's former chief executive, kyiv peter murrell, who was also nicola sturgeon's husband, was also arrested and questioned before being released. police are investing dating the use of £600,000 in donations is meant for the independence referendum . a serving member of the british armed forces has appeared in court charged with offences under the official secrets act . 36 year old thomas secrets act. 36 year old thomas newsome is accused of sharing highly sensitive military information . he's alleged to information. he's alleged to have shared a ten page document through social media to two senior officers who had clearance and one civilian who didn't prosecute . others claim

didn't prosecute. others claim if the information was leaked, it would have caused a real and immediate threat to british people outside of the uk . he's people outside of the uk. he's due back in court again on friday, and the family of stephen lawrence have held a memorial service in trafalgar square to mark the 30th anniversary of his murder. the 18 year old was killed in a racist attack while waiting for a bus in south—east london. it's alleged the original investigation was hindered by racism and police corruption , racism and police corruption, meaning it took almost 20 years for two of his killers to face justice. the mayor of london, sadiq khan, said it was a day to celebrate the efforts of the lawrence family to address the issues of equality , diversity issues of equality, diversity and inclusion in europe . to date and inclusion in europe. to date on tv, online dab radio and on. tune in now let's get back to .

tune in now let's get back to. martin and thank you, bethany, for keeping us up to date. all throughout gb news- throughout gb news saturday. weieone— throughout gb news saturday. welcome back.— throughout gb news saturday. welcome back. you're watching or iisiening— welcome back. you're watching or listening—saturday. listening to gb news saturday wiri— listening to gb news saturday viii-menin— listening to gb news saturday with martin daubney on your with me, martin daubney on your tv, with me, martin daubney on your iw—iigiieil tv, online and on your digital regio— tv, online and on your digital reiio. weii— tv, online and on your digital radio. well, the— tv, online and on your digital radio. well, the telegraph are reporiing— radio. well, the telegraph are reporiing iner— radio. well, the telegraph are reporting that nearly 3 million homeowners could face an extra propo— homeowners could face an extra piooo in— homeowners could face an extra £1,000 in mortgage costs. this worrving— £1,000 in mortgage costs. this worrying increase— £1,000 in mortgage costs. this worrying increase has been eiiripwiei— worrying increase has been attributed to— worrying increase has been attributed to bank analysts peiiing— attributed to bank analysts peiiing iner— attributed to bank analysts betting that we are in for more. we betting that we are in for more. we ee— betting that we are in for more. we in— betting that we are in for more. we in ior— betting that we are in for more. we are in for more— betting that we are in for more. we are in for more interest rate pikes— we are in for more interest rate pikes ierer— we are in for more interest rate hikes later on— we are in for more interest rate hikes later on this— we are in for more interest rate hikes later on this year in a pin— hikes later on this year in a pin io— hikes later on this year in a bid to counter— hikes later on this year in a bid to counter inflation. but snowin— bid to counter inflation. but should homeowners be worried? weii— should homeowners be worried? war, roining— should homeowners be worried? war, roining ne— should homeowners be worried? well, joining me now is property experi— well, joining me now is property evperr iwpre— well, joining me now is property expert julie ford.— well, joining me now is property expert julie ford. julie more grinn— expert julie ford. julie more grin reeeing— expert julie ford. julie more grim reading for homeowners, but pieese— grim reading for homeowners, but pieese peii— grim reading for homeowners, but pieese ieii ne— grim reading for homeowners, but please tell me there's some siiver— please tell me there's some silver lining— please tell me there's some silver lining in— please tell me there's some silver lining in this message . silver lining in this message. veg.— silver lining in this message. veg. ni— silver lining in this message. veg. ni . — silver lining in this message. yeah, hi . thank— silver lining in this message. yeah, hi . rigg “g."rt yeah, hi. thank you very much for having me on. again it is just the scaremongering headline i feel now. this is my personal and professional opinion. at the end of the day, the economists can only work on historic trends , as none of us have got a crystal ball . and sometimes i do

crystal ball. and sometimes i do like to refer to them as a mystics . but realistically, mystics. but realistically, we're not going to see the housing crash that we've had in in history's time simply because back then you could also get your mortgage on a much higher loan to your salary. so back then you could get a mortgage on 4 or 5 times your salary, whereas there's no lender that's going to do that. now so but also historically, the base rate was much, much higher at those times as well. in the early 90 seconds and late 80 seconds, we were looking at a base rate of over 14. there's no chance of us seeing that again . so that seeing that again. so that offset against the rate of inflation really won't see a housing crash come the only people that are going to really see an impact here at the moment are those that are looking to remortgage , because obviously remortgage, because obviously they're going to picking up they're going to be picking up they're going to be picking up the rates those are the new rates and those who are on rate mortgages on variable rate mortgages because obviously, it says on because obviously, as it says on the it's variable depending the tin, it's variable depending on whether the rates up or on whether the rates go up or down. now well, first of all, thank you for that. you've been

a nice, thank you for that. you've been e oooi— thank you for that. you've been a nice, cool flannel— thank you for that. you've been a nice, cool flannel on- you've been a nice, cool flannel on the head were.— a nice, cool flannel on the head inere. wo— a nice, cool flannel on the head there. no doubt— a nice, cool flannel on the head there. no doubt a— a nice, cool flannel on the head there. no doubt a few people are seving,— there. no doubt a few people are sayingr on— there. no doubt a few people are sayingv on my— there. no doubt a few people are sayingv on rnv son,— there. no doubt a few people are saying, oh my god, it's constant pei— saying, oh my god, it's constant pen news— saying, oh my god, it's constant pen ior— saying, oh my god, it's constant bad news for mortgage owners and pager,— bad news for mortgage owners and inieep-peeewse,- bad news for mortgage owners and indeed,-because, of- indeed, renters, because, of eowrseeoss-i- indeed, renters, because, of course,-costs get- indeed, renters, because, of course, costs get passed course, these costs get passed on. we can't speculate on. but look, we can't speculate epowi— on. but look, we can't speculate about interest— on. but look, we can't speculate about interest-but- on. but look, we can't speculate about interest but surely about interest rates, but surely inieresi— about interest rates, but surely interest rates— about interest rates, but surely interest rates need to start going— interest rates need to start going eown— interest rates need to start going down io— interest rates need to start going down to counter soaring iniieiion. — going down to counter soaring inflation. .there_ going down to counter soaring inflation..there is- going down to counter soaring inflation. there is hope inflation. so there is hope eneei.— inflation. so there is hope eneei. i— inflation. so there is hope ahead. i for— inflation. so there is hope ahead. i for hope home owners . ahead. i for hope home owners. keep.— ahead. i for hope home owners. yeah, absolutely.— ahead. i for hope home owners. yeah, absolutely. but— ahead. i for hope home owners. yeah, absolutely. but we- ahead. i for hope home owners. yeah, absolutely. but we need to be realistic because we have the current inflation rate at just over 10. it needs to be a bit more balanced before we're going to see the base rate come down to see the base rate come down to equal. that out. i do think when the base rate is revised on the 11th of may, we will see an increase and i think that increase and i think that increase may go up to 4.7 or even 5. but really quickly, we need to see inflation come down to at least 7% before before we then start seeing the base rate coming back down. but we've also got that anomaly of covid. i'm sure most of us have forgotten about covid now, but we did see in that time the base rate come

down to literally nought down to literally the nought point% so we saw 0.5% at that time and it does really need to come back up to start balancing and equalising thing. okay julie. but i'm always- and equalising thing. okay julie. but i'm always a- g 9 okay julie. but i'm always a big peiiever— julie. but i'm always a big peiiever my— julie. but i'm always a big believer my dad's been telling me ior— believer my dad's been telling me ior vees— believer my dad's been telling me for years, years before i powgni— me for years, years before i even bought now get into bricks and even bought now get into bricks eni rnoerri— even bought now get into bricks and mortar. it's— even bought now get into bricks and mortar. it's the safest bet. is and mortar. it's the safest bet. is-ine— and mortar. it's the safest bet. is-ine eese— and mortar. it's the safest bet. is-the case? and- and mortar. it's the safest bet. is the case? and again, is it still the case? and again, seni— is it still the case? and again, send some good— is it still the case? and again, send some good news to our send some good news out to our gb send some good news out to our ep—owi— send some good news out to our ep—owi inere- gb news viewers out there. prieks— gb news viewers out there. prieks eni— gb news viewers out there. bricks and mortar still the best invesineni— bricks and mortar still the best invesirneni ,— bricks and mortar still the best investment , still— bricks and mortar still the best investment , still the safest investment, still the safest neven— investment, still the safest neven ior— investment, still the safest haven for your— investment, still the safest haven for your money. is that eoneei— haven for your money. is that eoneei e — haven for your money. is that correct ? now,— haven for your money. is that correct ? now, i'm- haven for your money. is that correct ? pigrw' haven for your money. is that correct? pigrirr' �*" “r?“if correct? now, i'm no financial adviser, so i'm not giving financial advice here. but yeah, absolutely. property is always a good investment because you are going to hold that for a long penod going to hold that for a long period of time and holding an asset like that, you're going to have the peaks and troughs, but ultimately you're going to be making money on it. but like everything, everyone's circumstances are personal and they need to independent they need to get independent financial bricks and financial advice. but bricks and mortar, absolutely. everybody needs a home, whether you're renting out as a landlord and renting it out as a landlord and providing private providing it in the private rented living rented sector or you're living in yourself . bricks and

in it yourself. bricks and mortar, believe, is certainly mortar, i believe, is certainly still investment. well, still a good investment. well, judy ford, thank very much judy ford, thank you very much for a calming influence. for being a calming influence. you've certainly at you've certainly put my mind at .geiiing— you've certainly put my mind at ease. .gettinglbit- you've certainly put my mind at ease. getting bit fed up. ease. i'm getting a bit fed up. all ease. i'm getting a bit fed up. ari-noon— ease. i'm getting a bit fed up. all-doom .gloom - ease. i'm getting a bit fed up. all doom gloom message all this doom and gloom message .so— all this doom and gloom message --50-y0uv_ all this doom and gloom message .so-vow judy- all this doom and gloom message .so-vow judyv ior- . and so thank you, judy, for neiping— . and so thank you, judy, for neiping ws— . and so thank you, judy, for helping us feel— . and so thank you, judy, for helping us feel positive on enoiner— helping us feel positive on enoiner-iev- helping us feel positive on another- day fori another bad news day for rnorigeges— another bad news day for mortgages. much. mortgages. thank you very much. pkev. —geiiing- okay. you've been getting in rowen—iopie- okay. you've been getting in touch _topic of. okay. you've been getting in touch topic of the touch on our big topic of the day- —inei-s- day. of course, that's on porninie— day. of course, that's on dominic-and- day. of course, that's on dominic and over to day. of course, that's on- dominic-and over to dave dominic raab and over to dave wno— dominic raab and over to dave wno sevs— dominic raab and over to dave now who says dominic raab is a eieeiei— now who says dominic raab is a senior elected mp _ now who says dominic raab is a senior elected mp civil servants working— senior elected mp civil servants working ior— senior elected mp civil servants working for the— senior elected mp civil servants working for the elected representing- working for the elected representing . this is the very representing. this is the very worrving— representing. this is the very worrying situation where our eivii— worrying situation where our eivii servenis— worrying situation where our civil servants are controlling ine— civil servants are controlling ine neiion— civil servants are controlling the nation and— civil servants are controlling the nation and destroying house of the nation and destroying house oi cornrnons— the nation and destroying house of commons members at their wiii. — of commons members at their wiii. a— of commons members at their wiii. a ior— of commons members at their wiii. a or oi— of commons members at their will. a lot of people agree with inep— will. a lot of people agree with par, peve— will. a lot of people agree with par, peve. a— will. a lot of people agree with that, dave. a feeling that the prop— that, dave. a feeling that the piop is— that, dave. a feeling that the blob is taking— that, dave. a feeling that the blob is taking over the tail is wegging— blob is taking over the tail is now wagging the dog. janet says the now wagging the dog. janet says we ioiiowing — now wagging the dog. janet says the following it— now wagging the dog. janet says the following it is— now wagging the dog. janet says the following it is not unreasonable for a very high up rninisier— unreasonable for a very high up rninisier io— unreasonable for a very high up minister to expect— unreasonable for a very high up minister to expect his work prieis— minister to expect his work briefs - speeches- minister to expect his work briefs speeches to be up to briefs and speeches to be up to screen,— briefs and speeches to be up to scratch, particularly the irnporienee— scratch, particularly the importance the scratch, particularly the i importance .the - he scratch, particularly the - importance .the - he has importance of the roles he has new— importance of the roles he has new in— importance of the roles he has had in cabinet.— importance of the roles he has had in cabinet. great point, vener— had in cabinet. great point, renei. poni— had in cabinet. great point, janet. don't forget this all eerneel— janet. don't forget this all came-a head- janet. don't forget this all came a head because the civil came to a head because the civil serveni— came to a head because the civil servant—spanish. servant was allowing spanish iroops— servant was allowing spanish iroops onio— servant was allowing spanish troops onto the— servant was allowing spanish troops onto the island of eipreiier— troops onto the island of eipreiier ,—

troops onto the island of gibraltar , something we couldn't gibraltar, something we couldn't ieke— gibraltar, something we couldn't ieke in— gibraltar, something we couldn't ieke in ine— gibraltar, something we couldn't take in the-days- gibraltar, something we couldn't take in the-days of- take in the final days of previe— take in the final days of brexit. seamus as the following the brexit. seamus as the following we rope— brexit. seamus as the following we roie oi— brexit. seamus as the following the role of the— brexit. seamus as the following the role of the civil service is to the role of the civil service is io ioiiow— the role of the civil service is to follow out— the role of the civil service is to follow out the— the role of the civil service is to follow out the will of the iiinisier. — to follow out the will of the iiinisier. ii— to follow out the will of the minister. it is— to follow out the will of the minister. it is as— to follow out the will of the minister. it is as simple as inep— minister. it is as simple as inei. ine— minister. it is as simple as that. the left— minister. it is as simple as that. the left wing ramona civil service— that. the left wing ramona civil service is— that. the left wing ramona civil service is rrving— that. the left wing ramona civil service is trying to— that. the left wing ramona civil service is trying to stop the necessary reforms needed in this oownirv— necessary reforms needed in this eownirv. speek— necessary reforms needed in this country. speak your mind , seamus country. speak your mind, seamus and country. speak your mind, seamus eni iergwin— country. speak your mind, seamus and tarquin adds— country. speak your mind, seamus and tarquin adds this the civil service— and tarquin adds this the civil serviee ee— and tarquin adds this the civil serviee e— and tarquin adds this the civil service are a vital— and tarquin adds this the civil service are a vital tool for the iwneiioning— service are a vital tool for the functioning of— service are a vital tool for the functioning of the— service are a vital tool for the functioning of the government eni— functioning of the government end we— functioning of the government end we ieke— functioning of the government and we take all— functioning of the government and we take all of their hard work— and we take all of their hard work ior— and we take all of their hard work for granted. they deserve respect— work for granted. they deserve respeei, noi— work for granted. they deserve respeei, noi io— work for granted. they deserve respect, not to be— work for granted. they deserve respect, not to be bullied. iergwin— respect, not to be bullied. iergwin a— respect, not to be bullied. tarquin a nice— respect, not to be bullied. tarquin a nice bit of balance to eni— tarquin a nice bit of balance to end oii— tarquin a nice bit of balance to end off those— tarquin a nice bit of balance to end off those views. there and keep— end off those views. there and keep vow— end off those views. there and keep your views— end off those views. there and keep your views coming in and pieese— keep your views coming in and pieese ion-i— keep your views coming in and please don't forget, do subscribe— please don't forget, do subscribe to- please don't forget, do subscribe to youtube subscribe to our youtube opennei— subscribe to our youtube channel.-gb- subscribe to our youtube. channel.-gb news. subscribe to our youtube- channel.-gb news. okay channel. we're at gb news. okay vow-re— channel. we're at gb news. okay vowe weieping— channel. we're at gb news. okay you're watching and listening to gb you're watching and listening to on news— you're watching and listening to gb news saturday with me, martin pewpnev— gb news saturday with me, martin daubney tomorrow— gb news saturday with me, martin daubney tomorrow ,— gb news saturday with me, martin daubney tomorrow , the uk's new daubney tomorrow, the uk's new ernergenev— daubney tomorrow, the uk's new ernergenev epen— daubney tomorrow, the uk's new emergency alert service will peppen— emergency alert service will peppen ei— emergency alert service will peppen er s— emergency alert service will happen at 3 pm. the test will iner— happen at 3 pm. the test will mean that mobile— happen at 3 pm. the test will mean that mobile phones will sowni— mean that mobile phones will sowni en— mean that mobile phones will sound an alert— mean that mobile phones will sound an alert and vibrate. but now— sound an alert and vibrate. but now sowin— sound an alert and vibrate. but how could this— sound an alert and vibrate. but how could this affect major sporiing— how could this affect major sporting events— how could this affect major sporting events and even family nornese— sporting events and even family nornese ani— sporting events and even family homes? and then— sporting events and even family homes? and then we'll be iisewssing— homes? and then we'll be discussing meghan markle's pepper— discussing meghan markle's ieiierio— discussing meghan markle's letter to the— discussing meghan markle's letter to the king, where she egein— letter to the king, where she once again raised concerns about

wnieriving— once again raised concerns about wneeriving reeisrn— once again raised concerns about underlying racism in the royal rerniiv— underlying racism in the royal ierniiv weii— underlying racism in the royal family well, what do you think? all family well, what do you think? aii oi— family well, what do you think? aii oi iner— family well, what do you think? all of that after— family well, what do you think? all of that after these messages

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at the long arm of the state is tapping into screens . tapping into their screens. should they be concerned or is this just something to brush away? just to be clear and away? well just to be clear and let's speak about the facts, because there does seem to be a pretty decisive split in the uk between people who think this is okay and people who believe this is an orwellian overreach by the government. just is an orwellian overreach by the government . just put is an orwellian overreach by the government. just put some government. just to put some peopie-s— government. just to put some peopie-s nines— government. just to put some people's minds-rest.- 3 just to put some people's minds rest. they people's minds at rest. they ion-i— people's minds at rest. they ion-i neve— people's minds at rest. they don't have your— people's minds at rest. they don't have your phone number. they— don't have your phone number. inev ion-i— don't have your phone number. inev don't-any- don't have your phone number. they don't-any of- don't have your phone number. they don't any of your they don't have any of your personei— they don't have any of your personal information you personal information about you or personal information about you o.-pr.o.e,_ personal information about you or-pnone, vowr— personal information about you or phone, your phone . if or your phone, your phone. if is— or your phone, your phone. if it's connected— or your phone, your phone. if it's connected to— or your phone, your phone. if it's connected to a mobile phone signer,— it's connected to a mobile phone signei, e— it's connected to a mobile phone signei, e-pnone— it's connected to a mobile phone signal, a phone tower, the signal, a cell phone tower, the power— signal, a cell phone tower, the power wnion— signal, a cell phone tower, the tower which provide the antenna iner— tower which provide the antenna pier-ine— tower which provide the antenna pier-ine-io- that provides the signal to pnones— that provides the signal to pnoneslii-s— that provides the signal to phones it's connected to one phones if it's connected to one of phones if it's connected to one oi inose— phones if it's connected to one oi inose ei— phones if it's connected to one oi inose er s— phones if it's connected to one of those at 3-on- phones if it's connected to one of those at 3 on sunday, of those at 3 pm. on sunday, you— of those at 3 pm. on sunday, vow wipi— of those at 3 pm. on sunday, vow wiii gei— of those at 3 pm. on sunday, you will get this— of those at 3 pm. on sunday, you will get this test alert. ani— you will get this test alert. one in— you will get this test alert. one in ine— you will get this test alert. and in the future, should they enoose— and in the future, should they enoose io — and in the future, should they choose to use— and in the future, should they choose to use this for any kind of choose to use this for any kind oi ernergenev— choose to use this for any kind of emergency rac— choose to use this for any kind of emergency rac and it's iergeiei— of emergency rac and it's iergerei ei— of emergency rac and it's targeted at certain regional areas. are connected to areas. if you are connected to oi— areas. if you are connected to oi inose— areas. if you are connected to one of those cell— areas. if you are connected to one of those cell phone towers in iner— one of those cell phone towers in that affected— one of those cell phone towers in that affected area, you will get in that affected area, you will gei en— in that affected area, you will gei en epen— in that affected area, you will get an alert to— in that affected area, you will get an alert to your device. and the get an alert to your device. and we pesi— get an alert to your device. and we iesi ren— get an alert to your device. and the last ten seconds and you can ieieie— the last ten seconds and you can ieieiel. — the last ten seconds and you can ieieiel. pen-i— the last ten seconds and you can deletel. don't they- the last ten seconds and you can delete . jgr c the last ten seconds and you can delete . jig" c delete it. don't they think the timing of this will is a little bit boneheaded and it's taking

part london marathon part during the london marathon so able to answer so they won't be able to answer it. is about kick it. football is about to kick off. won't. and it's saint off. they won't. and it's saint george's day. the patron saint of england being interrupted so rudely bleep at 3 pm. the rudely by a bleep at 3 pm. the timing is a bit off, isn't it? no, i have to say, the sport and pie— no, i have to say, the sport and pie rnereinon— no, i have to say, the sport and the marathon questions have been ieveiiei— the marathon questions have been ieveiiei ei— the marathon questions have been ieveiiei ei ne— the marathon questions have been levelled at me about 25 times in the levelled at me about 25 times in we pesi— levelled at me about 25 times in we iesi week— levelled at me about 25 times in the last week when _ levelled at me about 25 times in the last week when i've been speeking— the last week when i've been speaking about— the last week when i've been speaking about this. but nobody eise.— speaking about this. but nobody eise-nes— speaking about this. but nobody else.-has talked- else. martin has talked to me epowi— else. martin has talked to me about-george's- else. martin has talked to me about george's but about saint george's day, but i respeei—peopie- respect that certain people rnigni— respect that certain people rnigni ieei— respect that certain people might feel that it's a tricky one:— might feel that it's a tricky rignie— might feel that it's a tricky one, right? when are you going to one, right? when are you going io io— one, right? when are you going io no wise— one, right? when are you going io to pipe ai— one, right? when are you going to do this? at a— one, right? when are you going to do this? at a time that is eeeepiepie, — to do this? at a time that is eeeepiepie, i— to do this? at a time that is acceptable, i should say? i'll peii— acceptable, i should say? i'll perk-iner— acceptable, i should say? i'll tell that accidentally in tell you that accidentally in ironie— tell you that accidentally in rioriie ,— tell you that accidentally in florida , where— tell you that accidentally in florida , where they off the florida, where they set off the ernergenev— florida, where they set off the emergency system the other emergency alert system the other morning— emergency alert system the other rnorning ei— emergency alert system the other rnorning ei inp— emergency alert system the other morning at 4:15 am. so we're all morning at 4:15 am. so we're eii going— morning at 4:15 am. so we're eii goinglpe— morning at 4:15 am. so we're all going be quite glad we're all going to be quite glad we're not all going to be quite glad we're nor geriing— all going to be quite glad we're nor geiiing en— all going to be quite glad we're not getting an unexpected rude ewekening—e- not getting an unexpected rude awakening a false awakening from bed for a false eeirrn— awakening from bed for a false eiern-is— awakening from bed for a false alarm.-is being- awakening from bed for a false alarm. is being tested . you alarm. this is being tested. you ii— alarm. this is being tested. you ii vow— alarm. this is being tested. you can if you really— alarm. this is being tested. you can if you really want to iisepie— can if you really want to disable it— can if you really want to disable it on— can if you really want to disable it on your device . if disable it on your device. if vowve— disable it on your device. if vowve goi— disable it on your device. if vowve goi en— disable it on your device. if you've got an android phone or an you've got an android phone or en kppie—een- you've got an android phone or en appie—een gol you've got an android phone ori an apple—can go into an apple phone, you can go into the an apple phone, you can go into ine-eni— an apple phone, you can go into ine-eni vow— an apple phone, you can go into the-and you can- an apple phone, you can go into the-and you can go- an apple phone, you can go into the and you can go to the settings and you can go to vowr— the settings and you can go to your notifications— the settings and you can go to your notifications and under inere— your notifications and under inere vow-ii— your notifications and under there you'll have emergency eieris— there you'll have emergency eieris-vow— there you'll have emergency alerts-you can- there you'll have emergency alerts you can remove those

alerts and you can remove those eni— alerts and you can remove those eni siienee— alerts and you can remove those and silence them.— alerts and you can remove those and silence them. and that means this and silence them. and that means ins-noi— and silence them. and that means inis-noi go— and silence them. and that means inis-noi go oii— and silence them. and that means this-not go off on— and silence them. and that means this not go off on your this will not go off on your devise— this will not go off on your device-have- this will not go off on your- device-have-some device. there have been some concerns thrown out. for example , women who have a second mobile phone to keep from their partner if they're suffering from domestic violence. that could go off be a give away on those off and be a give away on those kind of phones. i saw a report yesterday about owners of pet shops. distressed that shops. again distressed that this going in this might start going off in pet unnecessary pet shops and cause unnecessary distress to pets . acas has this distress to pets. acas has this really been thought through and actually is it even necessary? i mean, we don't get typhoons and hurricanes . we don't get flash hurricanes. we don't get flash floods. we don't get fires in britain. why do we even need this thing in the first place? may i tell you that there were fires last summer in london that encroached certain areas and then damaged houses. if those people involved _ then damaged houses. if those people involved in— then damaged houses. if those people involved in those- 33: if those people involved in those fires in ine— people involved in those fires in the summer— people involved in those fires in the summer had had a notification— in the summer had had a notification telling them that inev— notification telling them that inev neeiei — notification telling them that they needed to— notification telling them that they needed to evacuate may well neve— they needed to evacuate may well neve neipei.— they needed to evacuate may well have helped. it's— they needed to evacuate may well have helped. it's a— they needed to evacuate may well have helped. it's a tricky one, rignie— have helped. it's a tricky one, rignie inn— have helped. it's a tricky one, rignre i-rn noi— have helped. it's a tricky one, right? i'm not going to sit here eni— right? i'm not going to sit here end-goi— right? i'm not going to sit here and-got-reasons. and say i've got 100 reasons as to and say i've got 100 reasons as io-inis— and say i've got 100 reasons as io-inis-seve- and say i've got 100 reasons as to-this-save lives- and say i've got 100 reasons as to-this-save lives in. to why this will save lives in ine— to why this will save lives in we pk.— to why this will save lives in we pk. nwr— to why this will save lives in the uk. but the—

to why this will save lives in the uk. but the service, which nes— the uk. but the service, which nes peen— the uk. but the service, which has been used— the uk. but the service, which has been used in— the uk. but the service, which has been used in other countries the uk. but the service, which hasaroundised in other countries the uk. but the service, which hasaround isedecade, er countries the uk. but the service, which hasaroundisedecade, has)untries the uk. but the service, which hasaroundisedecade, has saved s for around a decade, has saved iives— for around a decade, has saved iives .— for around a decade, has saved iives . ris— for around a decade, has saved lives . it's definitely saved lives. it's definitely saved iives— lives. it's definitely saved lives-forest— lives. it's definitely saved lives forest fires in other lives in forest fires in other ownnes— lives in forest fires in other countries .floods- lives in forest fires in other countries floods across countries and floods across iwrope. — countries and floods across iwrope. ani— countries and floods across europe. and there are documents , cases where people's lives neve— , cases where people's lives neve peen— , cases where people's lives have been saved— , cases where people's lives have been saved as a result, wnen— have been saved as a result, wnen ii— have been saved as a result, wnen ii cones— have been saved as a result, when it comes to— have been saved as a result, when it comes to those who iornesiie— when it comes to those who domestic abuse— when it comes to those who domestic abuse cases, those who rnigni— domestic abuse cases, those who rnigni neve— domestic abuse cases, those who might have sensory— domestic abuse cases, those who might have sensory issues, they rnigni— might have sensory issues, they rnigni neve— might have sensory issues, they might have autism or might not like might have autism or might not iike iowi— might have autism or might not like loud noises.— might have autism or might not like loud noises. i— might have autism or might not like loud noises. i do respect eni— like loud noises. i do respect eni io— like loud noises. i do respect and do understand that those peopie— and do understand that those peopie rnigni— and do understand that those people might have a tricky time pere— people might have a tricky time nae, pwi— people might have a tricky time here, but that— people might have a tricky time here, but that is— people might have a tricky time here, but that is not a reason to here, but that is not a reason io noi— here, but that is not a reason io noi neve— here, but that is not a reason io noi neve e— here, but that is not a reason to not have a system that pretty nwen— to not have a system that pretty rnwen oi— to not have a system that pretty rnwen oi everv— to not have a system that pretty much of every other country now nes— much of every other country now nes .— much of every other country now nes . ani— much of every other country now nes . one i— much of every other country now nes . one i is— much of every other country now has . and it is a— much of every other country now has . and it is a way— much of every other country now has . and it is a way of alerting has. and it is a way of alerting to has. and it is a way of alerting io ws— has. and it is a way of alerting io ws siwii— has. and it is a way of alerting to us stuff if— has. and it is a way of alerting to us stuff if bad— has. and it is a way of alerting to us stuff if bad things peppen. — to us stuff if bad things peppen. pwi— to us stuff if bad things happen. but like you, martin, the happen. but like you, martin, ine one— happen. but like you, martin, ine ining— happen. but like you, martin, the one thing that's important for the one thing that's important ior ine— the one thing that's important ior i— the one thing that's important ior i veni— the one thing that's important for me, i want this to be used for me, i want this to be used ior wnei— for me, i want this to be used ior we is— for me, i want this to be used for what it's currently stated. i for what it's currently stated. i ion-i— for what it's currently stated. i ion-i weni— for what it's currently stated. i don't want becoming i don't want it becoming a governrneni— i don't want it becoming a government then government overreach and then swggesring— government overreach and then suggesting things suggesting all sorts of things eni— suggesting all sorts of things eni sensing— suggesting all sorts of things and sending government messages to . and sending government messages io—. ii- to everybody's devices. it snowin— to everybody's devices. it snowii-pe- to everybody's devices. it should be used for a should only be used for a genwine— should only be used for a genuine emergency. cc genuine emergency. well, will eeie— genuine emergency. well, will eeie .— genuine emergency. well, will gaia , thank you for joining genuine emergency. well, will gaia , thank you forjoining us gaia, thank you for joining us on important issue. i think on this important issue. i think actually a lot of kind of actually a lot of the kind of scepticism towards this is because overreach because of government overreach dunng during the pandemic, during lockdowns , people were terrified

lockdowns, people were terrified of details being used of their details being used by the nefarious reasons. the state for nefarious reasons. will, thank you for joining the state for nefarious reasons. will, thank you forjoining us will, thank you for joining us today. will, thank you for joining us today . okay. our next today. okay. on to our next story . it's been revealed that story. it's been revealed that the sussex , meghan the duchess of sussex, meghan markle, to king charles markle, wrote to king charles back in march 2021, where she expressed concerns, of course, about racist unconscious bias in the royal family. shortly after that infamous oprah interview, meghan replied to a letter from the king after she alleged that a senior member of the royal family had speculated about her unborn baby's skin colour. these letters have emerged following the fallout of meghan's no show at the king's coronation in may. and now to tell us more about this is royal commentator caroline aston. hello to you, caroline. so another day , caroline. so another day, another story about meghan markle bleating on about racism . oh, absolutely . but, you know, . oh, absolutely. but, you know, i . oh, absolutely. but, you know, i new— . oh, absolutely. but, you know, i new e— . oh, absolutely. but, you know, i new e iiiiie— . oh, absolutely. but, you know, i had a little bet— . oh, absolutely. but, you know, i had a little bet with- cj" cigcyr but, you know, i had a little bet with myself iner— i had a little bet with myself inei ive— i had a little bet with myself that i've actually— i had a little bet with myself that i've actually won today, iner— that i've actually won today, we rowni— that i've actually won today, that round about— that i've actually won today, that round about now, fortnight or so io— that round about now, fortnight or so io go— that round about now, fortnight or so io go io— that round about now, fortnight or so to go to the— that round about now, fortnight or so to go to the big day, sorneining— or so to go to the big day, something would emanate forth

iron— something would emanate forth iron cernp— something would emanate forth from camp montecito and of ii— from camp montecito and of course, i'd been— from camp montecito and of course, i'd been absolutely rigni— course, i'd been absolutely rigni . — course, i'd been absolutely rigni. inevi— course, i'd been absolutely right . “ng r: : course, i'd been absolutely right . r: : : course, i'd been absolutely- right . they'd already ramped up right. they'd already ramped up the tension a little bit by not replying rather rudely by the rsvp coronation invite cut—off date of april third. and now we get this is a letter exchange back in 2021. of course , back in 2021. of course, trumpeted to us by that omnipresent mouthpiece of the sussexes mr omid scobie. and you know, at the root of all of this, of this difficulty in having conversation, discourse, even putting a few planks in a rickety bridge of reconciliation , is the loss of that vital thing. trust the simple fact is that royals are not willing to sit down and talk to the sussexes for fear of, well, it being used for their publicity machine. and that's at the root of a lot of this. but yes, they're back on the front pages again. watch this space for more

. it's worth pointing out that a lot . it's worth pointing out that a ior oi— . it's worth pointing out that a ior oi peopie— it's worth pointing out that a lot of people speculate about the lot of people speculate about we oiow— lot of people speculate about the colour of— lot of people speculate about the colour of their children's gr...— the colour of their children's an, ineir— the colour of their children's skin, their hair,— the colour of their children's skin, their hair, their eyes. inis— skin, their hair, their eyes. we is— skin, their hair, their eyes. this is quite— skin, their hair, their eyes. this is quite normal. it's also worri— this is quite normal. it's also worin poiniing— this is quite normal. it's also worth pointing out caroline , worth pointing out caroline, iner— worth pointing out caroline, we in— worth pointing out caroline, we in ine— worth pointing out caroline, that in the telegraph article iiseii— that in the telegraph article iiseii ,— that in the telegraph article iiseii , ii— that in the telegraph article itself , if meghan admits that itself, if meghan admits that inese— itself, if meghan admits that these comments— itself, if meghan admits that these comments were made without neiiee— these comments were made without rneiiee ,— these comments were made without rneiiee , so— these comments were made without rneiiee , so wnv— these comments were made without rneiiee , so wnv is— these comments were made without malice , so why is this coming to malice, so why is this coming to a malice, so why is this coming to e peei— malice, so why is this coming to e peep eii— malice, so why is this coming to a head all this— malice, so why is this coming to a head all this time later ? a head all this time later? weii— a head all this time later? veii. egein— a head all this time later? war. egein. i— a head all this time later? well, again, i would- a head all this time later? well, again, i would suggest that it's the p—word publicity , that it's the p—word publicity, isn't it? it's oxygen. it's aether to the sussex publicity machine, because the sad irony of all of this is the only thing that makes this couple really marketable is their connection with the institution . an they've with the institution. an they've done all they to can tarnish and damage . that's their problem. damage. that's their problem. but they've got to make sure they're relevant. well really to rack up more cash, more offers, more contracts. we've had the docu series, we've had spare, which perhaps didn't go down quite as well as they had hoped for. so here is the next piece of publicity seeking riding on

the back of a day that really should be all about the oldest monarch we've ever crowned who's waited a long, long time for the top job. but still. well, the headuneis top job. but still. well, the headline is go a little bit more to the sussexes today. okay, caroline. well of— : okay, caroline. well of course, meghan isn-i— caroline. well of course, meghan isn-i pere— caroline. well of course, meghan isn-i nere io— caroline. well of course, meghan isn't here to defend— caroline. well of course, meghan isn't here to defend herself, so ier-s— isn't here to defend herself, so ier-s vwsi— isn't here to defend herself, so let's just analyse— isn't here to defend herself, so let's just analyse this for a rnorneni — let's just analyse this for a rnorneni po— let's just analyse this for a moment. do you think there is any— moment. do you think there is env — moment. do you think there is env in— moment. do you think there is any racism in the— moment. do you think there is any racism in the royal family? i any racism in the royal family? i rneen— any racism in the royal family? i i— any racism in the royal family? i mean, i remember when she got rnerriei— i mean, i remember when she got rnerriei iner— i mean, i remember when she got married that day— i mean, i remember when she got married that day the whole married that day and the whole neiion— married that day and the whole wion—eiong- married that day and the whole nation along. they nation cheered her along. they enpreeei— nation cheered her along. they embraced meghan markle to the poson — embraced meghan markle to the poson line— embraced meghan markle to the bosom the monarchy, to bosom of the monarchy, to priiein-s— bosom of the monarchy, to britain's bosom— bosom of the monarchy, to britain's bosom . they didn't britain's bosom. they didn't io— britain's bosom. they didn't io pe— britain's bosom. they didn't seem to be racism then , but seem to be any racism then, but is-sorne— seem to be any racism then, but is-sorne no— seem to be any racism then, but is-sorne noe - seem to be any racism then, but is-some now ? well,- seem to be any racism then, but is some now ? �*fviigcc seem to be any racism then, but. is-some now ? well, i would is there some now? well, i would just say this. i think most- just say this. i think most peopie— just say this. i think most people rejoiced— i think most people rejoiced that prince nerrv— people rejoiced that prince nerrv nei— people rejoiced that prince harry had found love and he had iowni— harry had found love and he had iowni ii— harry had found love and he had iowni i win— harry had found love and he had found it with a— harry had found love and he had found it with a lady who in many wevs— found it with a lady who in many ways epitomised_ found it with a lady who in many ways epitomised the huge changes in ow— ways epitomised the huge changes in eownirv— ways epitomised the huge changes in our country since— ways epitomised the huge changes in our country since her majesty oween— in our country since her majesty queen elizabeth— in our country since her majesty queen elizabeth ii— in our country since her majesty queen elizabeth ii came to the prone— queen elizabeth ii came to the prone peek— queen elizabeth ii came to the throne back in— queen elizabeth ii came to the throne back in 1953. multiethnic rnwiii—ieiin— throne back in 1953. multiethnic multi—faith, multi arnie in everv— multi—faith, multi arnie in everv wev. — multi—faith, multi arnie in everv wev. kni— multi—faith, multi arnie in every way. and here was a woman wnon— every way. and here was a woman wno-i newe— every way. and here was a woman

wno-i rneie ner— every way. and here was a woman who'd made her name as an eerress okay— who'd made her name as an actress. okay, not- who'd made her name as an actress. okay, not a leading noiivwooi— actress. okay, not a leading hollywood star,— actress. okay, not a leading hollywood star, but she had iowgni— hollywood star, but she had iowgni ior— hollywood star, but she had fought for and— hollywood star, but she had fought for and won a part and eewiee— fought for and won a part and eerriei ii— fought for and won a part and carried it through. she seemed to carried it through. she seemed io rneke— carried it through. she seemed io neke nerrv— carried it through. she seemed to make harry very happy . and to make harry very happy. and inen— to make harry very happy. and then suddenly— to make harry very happy. and then suddenly the milk turned verv— then suddenly the milk turned very sour, didn't— then suddenly the milk turned very sour, didn't it ? and ever very sour, didn't it? and ever since— very sour, didn't it? and ever inep— very sour, didn't it? and ever since then, we've— very sour, didn't it? and ever since then, we've had this wnieriving— since then, we've had this underlying thread that deep down in ine— underlying thread that deep down in we kovei— underlying thread that deep down in the royal family, there is inis— in the royal family, there is we reeisi— in the royal family, there is this racist thread , even though, this racist thread, even though, of this racist thread, even though, oi in— this racist thread, even though, of course, in the— this racist thread, even though, of course, in the interviews ioiiowing— of course, in the interviews following the _ of course, in the interviews following the publication of spere— following the publication of spere peir— following the publication of spare heir prince harry said the kovei— spare heir prince harry said the royal rerniiv— spare heir prince harry said the royal family isn't— spare heir prince harry said the royal family isn't racist , spare heir prince harry said the royal family isn't racist, and rip— royal family isn't racist, and rip eiier— royal family isn't racist, and this after having— royal family isn't racist, and this after having accepted , if this after having accepted, if you— this after having accepted, if you remember,— this after having accepted, if you remember, the kerry kennedy averi— you remember, the kerry kennedy aweri ior— you remember, the kerry kennedy award for exposing— you remember, the kerry kennedy award for exposing racial ism in the award for exposing racial ism in we kovei— award for exposing racial ism in the royal family. _ award for exposing racial ism in the royal family. so well, it's iike— the royal family. so well, it's iike e— the royal family. so well, it's iike e ioi— the royal family. so well, it's iike e ior oi— the royal family. so well, it's like a lot of sussex things, the wriiing — like a lot of sussex things, the wriiing isn-i— like a lot of sussex things, the writing isn't always joined up. pwi— writing isn't always joined up. pwi ine— writing isn't always joined up. pwi ine poini— writing isn't always joined up. but the point of— writing isn't always joined up. but the point of the dagger is verv— but the point of the dagger is verv snerp— but the point of the dagger is verv snerp . — but the point of the dagger is verv snerp . so— but the point of the dagger is very sharp . cogngr very sharp. so caroline, meghan's going to be a no show. do you think that's it? is it curtains for meghan in britain. now, very briefly, you now, just very briefly, if you could, of course, could, please, of course, probably. idon't could, please, of course, probably. i don't think she venis— probably. i don't think she wenis io— probably. i don't think she wants to come— i don't think she wants to come back here and eiier— wants to come back here and eiier eii— wants to come back here and after all, they've— wants to come back here and after all, they've got their wisp— after all, they've got their

wisn inis— after all, they've got their wish this time.— after all, they've got their wish this time. one of them's peii— wish this time. one of them's neii in— wish this time. one of them's half in there— wish this time. one of them's half in there ,— wish this time. one of them's half in there , the— wish this time. one of them's half in there , the other's half half in there, the other's half owi— half in there, the other's half owi in— half in there, the other's half out in america— half in there, the other's half out in america .— half in there, the other's half out in america . i— half in there, the other's half out in america . i rest my case. out in america. i rest my case. veep— out in america. i rest my case. veep weii— out in america. i rest my case. veep weii wise— out in america. i rest my case. yeah well, wise words there. i vwsi— yeah well, wise words there. i rwsi reeiiv— yeah well, wise words there. i rwsi reeiiv pope— yeah well, wise words there. i just really hope we— yeah well, wise words there. i just really hope we can- yeah well, wise words there. i just really hope we can get away from all of this and just get back to actually enjoying this momentous brush aside the momentous day. brush aside the celebrity tittle tattle actually focus on the coronation, which should be a once lifetime should be a once in a lifetime event for people . so, event for many people. so, caroline, you for joining caroline, thank you for joining us today for your amazing insight. thank you very much . insight. thank you very much. okay. i hope you enjoyed the show it's epic show today. it's been an epic action show. you're action packed show. you're watching gb watching and listening to gb news saturday with me, martin dalby. it me today. dalby. that's it from me today. today, anywhere because today, don't go anywhere because nana but first, nana is up next. but first, let's look at the weather let's take a look at the weather with jonathan . hello there. i'm with jonathan. hello there. i'm ronerpen— with jonathan. hello there. i'm jonathan vautrey— with jonathan. hello there. i'm jonathan vautrey here- " hello there. i'm jonathan vautrey here with your ieiesi— jonathan vautrey here with your latest weather— jonathan vautrey here with your latest weather update from the pier— latest weather update from the we piiiee. — latest weather update from the met office. some— latest weather update from the met office. some of us have rnenegei— met office. some of us have rnenegeilsee— met office. some of us have managed see some sunshine managed to see some sunshine peev— managed to see some sunshine today pwi— managed to see some sunshine today pwi ior— managed to see some sunshine today, but for others it has peen— today, but for others it has been _cloudy. - today, but for others it has been cloudy. and this been largely cloudy. and this nixed—owe- been largely cloudy. and this mixed—due to- been largely cloudy. and thisi mixed—due to low mixed setup is all due to low presswre-is— mixed setup is all due to low pressure-is set- mixed setup is all due to low pressure is set across the pressure that is set across the uk pressure that is set across the iik eni— pressure that is set across the iik eni inese— pressure that is set across the uk and these occluded uk and these various occluded ionis— uk and these various occluded irons-ere— uk and these various occluded fronts are bringing bands fronts that are bringing bands of-different_ fronts that are bringing bands of different parts of of rain to different parts of pie— of rain to different parts of pie eownirv. — of rain to different parts of the country. this first one across northern ireland into sowinern— across northern ireland into southern scotland and northern

ingienri— southern scotland and northern ingienri wiii— southern scotland and northern england, will continue to bring some outbreaks— england, will continue to bring some outbreaks of rain throughout— some outbreaks of rain throughout evening some outbreaks of rain throughout-evening push throughout this evening and push its throughout this evening and push iis-erees— throughout this evening and push iis-erees oi— throughout this evening and push its areas of northeast its way into areas of northeast seoiieni— its way into areas of northeast peoiieni es— its way into areas of northeast scotland as well— its way into areas of northeast scotland as well .— its way into areas of northeast scotland as well . further scotland as well. further owipreeks— scotland as well. further outbreaks-rain- scotland as well. further outbreaks rain throughout outbreaks of rain throughout the nigni— outbreaks of rain throughout the nigni-pwsn— outbreaks of rain throughout the nigni-pwsn in— outbreaks of rain throughout the night push in from the night will push in from the sowinwesi— night will push in from the southwest and— night will push in from the southwest and move across ingieni— southwest and move across england-wales.- southwest and move across england .wales. cloud england and wales. and the cloud , ii— england and wales. and the cloud ,gve. ii-iiin-i— england and wales. and the cloud , even if-didn't have- england and wales. and the cloud , even if didn't have it , even if you didn't have it inrowgnowi— , even if you didn't have it throughout-day,- , even if you didn't have it throughout day, will tend to throughout the day, will tend to pwiii—nigni— throughout the day, will tend to build_night.well.| build during the night as well. so build during the night as well. so-pienkei— build during the night as well. so-blanket of— build during the night as well. so blanket of cloud will so that blanket of cloud will poin— so that blanket of cloud will noii—wp- so that blanket of cloud will noii—wp enil so that blanket of cloud will. hold—up and most so that blanket of cloud will- hold_up and most of hold temperatures up and most of us hold temperatures up and most of ws—pwi- us should stay frost free, but we us should stay frost free, but eon-i- us should stay frost free, but we - down into - us should stay frost free, but we down into low we might dip down into low singie— we might dip down into low single figures— we might dip down into low single figures in some sheltered we might dip down into low singlispots.as in some sheltered we might dip down into low singlispots. so n some sheltered we might dip down into low singlispots. so a some sheltered we might dip down into low singlispots. so a prettysheltered we might dip down into low singlispots. so a pretty cloudyid rural spots. so a pretty cloudy sien— rural spots. so a pretty cloudy sieri io— rural spots. so a pretty cloudy start to sunday— rural spots. so a pretty cloudy start to sunday morning. the poieniiei— start to sunday morning. the potential-some- start to sunday morning. the potential some slightly potential for some slightly neevier— potential for some slightly heavier bursts— potential for some slightly heavier bursts of to push heavier bursts of rain to push in-southeast- heavier bursts of rain to push in southeast england. in across southeast england. inere-s— in across southeast england. there's some— in across southeast england. there's some slight uncertainty in regeris— there's some slight uncertainty in regeris io— there's some slight uncertainty in regards to its— there's some slight uncertainty in regards to its exact track. so in regards to its exact track. so no — in regards to its exact track. so do keep— in regards to its exact track. so do keep wp— in regards to its exact track. so do keep up to- in regards to its exact track. so do keep up to date with the pieces.— so do keep up to date with the ioreeesi. ii— so do keep up to date with the forecast. if you— so do keep up to date with the forecast. if you are— so do keep up to date with the forecast. if you are running the ionion— forecast. if you are running the london marathon,— forecast. if you are running the london marathon, showers pwppiing— london marathon, showers bubbling elsewhere and we'll bubbling up elsewhere and we'll see bubbling up elsewhere and we'll iwriner— bubbling up elsewhere and we'll see further rain— bubbling up elsewhere and we'll see further rain pushing in across northeast see further rain pushing in. across northeast-and across northeast scotland and iner— across northeast scotland and inei—winirv- across northeast scotland and that—wintry over. across northeast scotland and that wintry over the that could turn wintry over the nigner— that could turn wintry over the pigner growni— that could turn wintry over the higher ground as— that could turn wintry over the higher ground as we see some eoiier— higher ground as we see some copier-eni- higher ground as we see some colder and feeling higher ground as we see some colder bitter and feeling higher ground as we see some colder bitter in and feeling higher ground as we see some colder bitter in the d feeling higher ground as we see some colder bitter in the strong ng rather bitter in the strong winds— rather bitter in the strong winds developing here as well. inis— winds developing here as well. inis-eir— winds developing here as well. inis-eir is— winds developing here as well. this-air is going- winds developing here as well. this air is going to push this cold air is going to push its this cold air is going to push iis wev— this cold air is going to push its way southwards across the resi— its way southwards across the resi oi— its way southwards across the resi oi ine — its way southwards across the rest of the uk— its way southwards across the rest of the uk as— its way southwards across the rest of the uk as we head inrowgnowi— rest of the uk as we head throughout sunday evening and into throughout sunday evening and inio iioniev— throughout sunday evening and into monday-rain-

throughout sunday evening and into monday. rain continuing into monday. the rain continuing to into monday. the rain continuing io-iis— into monday. the rain continuing io-iis wev— into monday. the rain continuing io-iis wev oii— into monday. the rain continuing to-its way off the - to clear its way off the south—east _ to clear its way off the south—east as- to clear its way off the south—east as well . some south—east as well. some siigniiv— south—east as well. some slightly-spells- slightly clearer spells ieveioping— slightly clearer spells developing here and there, but genereiiv— developing here and there, but genereiiv e— developing here and there, but genereiiv e ioi— developing here and there, but generally a lot of— developing here and there, but generally a lot of cloud around egein— generally a lot of cloud around .ggpn, iirsi— generally a lot of cloud around again, first thing— generally a lot of cloud around again, first thing on monday morning— again, first thing on monday morning .— again, first thing on monday morning . some— again, first thing on monday morning . some outbreaks of rain morning. some outbreaks of rain persisi— morning. some outbreaks of rain persist throughout— morning. some outbreaks of rain persist throughout the day. and egein— persist throughout the day. and .ggrn, inose— persist throughout the day. and again, those showers now propepiv— again, those showers now probably turning to sleet even at probably turning to sleet even ei sonne— probably turning to sleet even at some lower— probably turning to sleet even at some lower levels across noripern— at some lower levels across northern scotland. the briskest wines— northern scotland. the briskest winds on— northern scotland. the briskest winds on monday— northern scotland. the briskest winds on monday will be across the winds on monday will be across ine eesern— winds on monday will be across the eastern coastal— winds on monday will be across the eastern coastal where the eastern coastal area where we-inis— the eastern coastal area where we-inis igni— the eastern coastal area where we this tight squeeze in the we see this tight squeeze in the isopers. — we see this tight squeeze in the isopers. pwi— we see this tight squeeze in the isobars. but in— we see this tight squeeze in the isobars. but in to— we see this tight squeeze in the isobars. but in to tuesday, inere— isobars. but in to tuesday, inere ee— isobars. but in to tuesday, there are signs— isobars. but in to tuesday, there are signs that a ridge of nign— there are signs that a ridge of nign presswe— there are signs that a ridge of high pressure will start to pwiii— high pressure will start to build—settle. high pressure will start to- build_settle things build in and help settle things down— build in and help settle things eown—eii- build in and help settle things eown—eii oil build in and help settle things| down—all of us down a touch. but for all of us in iner— down a touch. but for all of us in that northerly— down a touch. but for all of us in that northerly flow of air, temperatures— in that northerly flow of air,i temperatures—be temperatures are going to be dropping— temperatures are going to be- dropping—considerably dropping down quite considerably by by— dropping down quite considerably by by vowve— dropping down quite considerably by by you've probably seen poiiiieiens— by by you've probably seen politicians interviewed a inowseni— politicians interviewed a thousand times, but we do it iiiiereniiv— thousand times, but we do it iiiiereniiv. — thousand times, but we do it differently . we— thousand times, but we do it differently . �*fviig �*" r: differently. we find out who they really are. we don't shout, we chat and hopefully we bring a bit of light , we chat and hopefully we bring a bit of light, not just heat. did you know kate moss? kppereniiv— did you know kate moss? apparently 00- did you know kate moss? apparently . do you- did you know kate moss? ' do you have a pair apparently. do you have a pair of apparently. do you have a pair oi ieens— apparently. do you have a pair oi ieens or— apparently. do you have a pair oi reens or e— apparently. do you have a pair of jeans or a pair— apparently. do you have a pair of jeans or a pair of— ' do you have a pair of jeans or a pair of joe's? veep.— of jeans or a pair of joe's? veep. oi— of jeans or a pair of joe's? yeah, of course— of jeans or a pair of joe's? yeah, of course i— of jeans or a pair of joe's? yeah, of course i did.- of jeans or a pair of joe's? yeah, of course i did. what would i do with them? my friends

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