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suspended pending an investigation. was labour right to remove the whip.7 is this ignorance or pure bigotry .7 we'll ignorance or pure bigotry? we'll be discussing that with a number of guests coming up throughout the show. we'll also be discussing the cost of running an electric vehicle. it's rising. should the government now scrap the ban on the sale of new petrol and diesel cars in 2030? we will, of course , be 2030? we will, of course, be keeping you up to date with the london marathon. olivia utley is probably well, she's probably finished by she's so finished by now. she's so speedy. first, before all speedy. but first, before all that, the news that, let's get the news headunes that, let's get the news headlines with arron armstrong erg . thanks, emily. good erg. thanks, emily. good afternoon— erg. thanks, emily. good afternoon to— erg. thanks, emily. good afternoon to you. - ?ci thanks, emily. good afternoon to you. it's 3c thanks, emily. good afternoon to you. it's a minute past— afternoon to you. it's a minute past one— afternoon to you. it's a minute past here— afternoon to you. it's a minute past one here in— afternoon to you. it's a minute past one here in the gb newsroom. an- past one here in the gb newsroom. an alert will be heard on smartphone— newsroom. an alert will be heard on smartphone across the uk from 3:00— on smartphone across the uk from 3:00 this— on smartphone across the uk from 3:00 this afternoon— on smartphone across the uk from 3:00 this afternoon ._ on smartphone across the uk from 3:00 this afternoon . on you'll 3:00 this afternoon. on you'll receive a message on your home along— receive a message on your home screen along with— receive a message on your home screen along with a— receive a message on your home screen along with a sound and a vibration— screen along with a sound and a vibration for— screen along with a sound and a vibration for up— screen along with a sound and a vibration for up to— screen along with a sound and a vibration for up to ten seconds. now— vibration for up to ten seconds. now the— vibration for up to ten seconds. now the pumic— vibration for up to ten seconds. now the public are being told

that— now the public are being told that they— now the public are being told that they eth— now the public are being told that they can simply swipe the eee — that they can simply swipe the meeeteg teth— that they can simply swipe the message away. drivers though, tethg— message away. drivers though, being ttvteet— message away. drivers though, being advised to— message away. drivers though, being advised to follow normal tttttte— being advised to follow normal tttttte ttme— being advised to follow normal traffic laws. so— being advised to follow normal traffic laws. so don't touch tem— traffic laws. so don't touch your theme— traffic laws. so don't touch your phones until it's safe. the government— your phones until it's safe. the gtvemmeht te— your phones until it's safe. the government is testing this new emergency— government is testing this new emergency eteh— government is testing this new emergency .— government is testing this new emergency siren . but to warn emergency siren. but to warn hethte— emergency siren. but to warn hethte them— emergency siren. but to warn people about life— emergency siren. but to warn people about life threatening ettttttthe— people about life threatening situations like— people about life threatening situations like fires , flooding situations like fires, flooding or terror attacks _ situations like fires, flooding or terror attacks , the deputy or terror attacks, the deputy thme — or terror attacks, the deputy prime minister,— or terror attacks, the deputy prime minister, oliver dowden, etye— prime minister, oliver dowden, etye thtt— prime minister, oliver dowden, etye thtt ht— prime minister, oliver dowden, says that it could— prime minister, oliver dowden, says that it could save people's thee. — says that it could save people's thee. tethte-e— says that it could save people's lives. people's lives. it's the thtt— lives. people's lives. it's the case that this— lives. people's lives. it's the case that this has been deemed- case that this has been developed with the national cyber— developed with the national cyber security— developed with the national cyber security centre, which terme— cyber security centre, which tttme httt— cyber security centre, which tttme httt et— cyber security centre, which forms part of gchq . “cfc; cyber security centre, which forms part of gchq . "tiff; cc forms part of gchq. there will be forms part of gchq. there will he t— forms part of gchq. there will he t very— forms part of gchq. there will be a very strict procedure in place for its authorised version and it will only be used in a situation where your viewers lives are in danger. i'm determined that there is a very high bar for the use . determined that there is a very high bar for the use. diane abbott's been— " g diane abbott's been suspended as a ttttm— abbott's been suspended as a ttttm tht— abbott's been suspended as a labour mp pending an investigation for saying jewish hethte— investigation for saying jewish hethte te— investigation for saying jewish hethte het— investigation for saying jewish people are not subjected to . h— people are not subjected to . h t— people are not subjected to racism . in a comment article for racism. in a comment article for the— racism. in a comment article for the eteemet— racism. in a comment article for the observer newspaper, the hermet— the observer newspaper, the former shadow— the observer newspaper, the former shadow health secretary ettt— former shadow health secretary ettt tewteh— former shadow health secretary said jewish people were ethteetet— said jewish people were subjected to _ said jewish people were subjected to prejudice like hteh— subjected to prejudice like hteh et— subjected to prejudice like irish or red— subjected to prejudice like irish or red headed people, but they— irish or red headed people, but

they tht— irish or red headed people, but they ttt het— irish or red headed people, but they did not experience racism. het— they did not experience racism. her comments— they did not experience racism. her comments have been ehtteteet— her comments have been criticised on— her comments have been criticised on social media. the etmettth— criticised on social media. the comedian david— criticised on social media. the comedian david baddiel tweeted this comedian david baddiel tweeted thte h— comedian david baddiel tweeted thte h the— comedian david baddiel tweeted this in the 20th— comedian david baddiel tweeted this in the 20th century, 6 mttttth— this in the 20th century, 6 million jews— this in the 20th century, 6 million jews were murdered. not thtt-e— million jews were murdered. not sure that's prejudice. ms abbott hast— sure that's prejudice. ms abbott hte though— sure that's prejudice. ms abbott has, though, since— sure that's prejudice. ms abbott has, though, since withdrawn thtee— has, though, since withdrawn those remarks— has, though, since withdrawn those remarks and apologised for any those remarks and apologised for my theme— those remarks and apologised for any offence caused— those remarks and apologised for any offence caused a labour party— any offence caused a labour party spokesperson has condemned the etmmeme— party spokesperson has condemned the comments as— party spokesperson has condemned the comments as deeply offensive and the comments as deeply offensive tht ment— the comments as deeply offensive tht wrong .— the comments as deeply offensive tmt wrong . the— the comments as deeply offensive and wrong . the uk— the comments as deeply offensive and wrong . the uk is preparing and wrong. the uk is preparing to remove embassy staff from sttth— to remove embassy staff from sudan amidst— to remove embassy staff from sudan amidst fierce fighting, ttthtteh— sudan amidst fierce fighting, ttthttgh htth— sudan amidst fierce fighting, although plan evacuations by ether— although plan evacuations by other countries— although plan evacuations by other countries appear to be ttehg— other countries appear to be facing difficulties. the rival mtttttty— facing difficulties. the rival military factions battling for ethtttt— military factions battling for ethtttt h— military factions battling for control in sudan have accused etch— control in sudan have accused eteh ether— control in sudan have accused each other of— control in sudan have accused each other of attacking francis ethvty— each other of attacking francis convoy, claiming _ each other of attacking francis convoy, claiming one french hee— convoy, claiming one french hee hte— convoy, claiming one french person has been— convoy, claiming one french person has been shot . egypt says person has been shot. egypt says a person has been shot. egypt says t emte— person has been shot. egypt says t emhe et— person has been shot. egypt says a member of its— person has been shot. egypt says a member of its mission has been wethtet— a member of its mission has been wethtet ty— a member of its mission has been wethtet by t— a member of its mission has been wounded by a gunshot. us special teteee— wounded by a gunshot. us special teteee theteh— wounded by a gunshot. us special forces, though, have— wounded by a gunshot. us special forces, though, have evacuated thetemttte— forces, though, have evacuated diplomatic staff— forces, though, have evacuated diplomatic staff and their ttmtttee— diplomatic staff and their families from _ diplomatic staff and their families from the capital, thtttetm — families from the capital, thtttetm .— families from the capital, khartoum . a— families from the capital, khartoum . a government source khartoum. a government source etye— khartoum. a government source etye hhtteh— khartoum. a government source says british embassy staff in sttth— says british embassy staff in sttth thtt— says british embassy staff in sudan will be— says british embassy staff in sudan will be brought out as te tt-e— sudan will be brought out as soon as it's feasible to do so . soon as it's feasible to do so. the— soon as it's feasible to do so. the heme— soon as it's feasible to do so. the home secretary says it is

emettt— the home secretary says it is emettt the— the home secretary says it is crucial the government has the heme— crucial the government has the meet te— crucial the government has the eewet te teeett— crucial the government has the power to deport migrants without being— power to deport migrants without being tteetet— power to deport migrants without being blocked by— power to deport migrants without being blocked by the european cemt— being blocked by the european cemt et— being blocked by the european court of human— being blocked by the european court of human rights. in the sthtty— court of human rights. in the sunday telegraph, suella braverman_ sunday telegraph, suella braverman said for britain to be thy— braverman said for britain to be tmty eeetethe— braverman said for britain to be truly sovereign, it— braverman said for britain to be truly sovereign, it needs to be the— truly sovereign, it needs to be thte te— truly sovereign, it needs to be able to decide— truly sovereign, it needs to be able to decide who enters our temtety— able to decide who enters our temtety .— able to decide who enters our territory . this— able to decide who enters our territory . this comes after 11 territory. this comes after 11 emttt— territory. this comes after 11 emttt hette— territory. this comes after 11 small boats carrying nearly 500 heeete— small boats carrying nearly 500 heeete eteeeet— small boats carrying nearly 500 people crossed the— small boats carrying nearly 500 people crossed the channel yeetettty— people crossed the channel yeetettty .— people crossed the channel yesterday . lib— people crossed the channel yesterday . lib dem leader sir people crossed the channel yesterday. lib dem leader sir ed htvey— yesterday. lib dem leader sir ed htyey etye— yesterday. lib dem leader sir ed htyey etye the— yesterday. lib dem leader sir ed davey says the government isn't tethe— davey says the government isn't doing enough— davey says the government isn't doing enough te— davey says the government isn't doing enough to tackle the issue . the— doing enough to tackle the issue . the ttetteg— doing enough to tackle the issue . the backlog of— doing enough to tackle the issue . the backlog of asylum - . the backlog of asylum applications that have not been processed is 160,000. that's the problem and this does nothing to solve that. liberal democrats want this problem solved, but the government is just being in chaos and can't even do the basics right, sir? mo farah thtehet— basics right, sir? mo farah finished ninth— basics right, sir? mo farah finished ninth in- basics right, sir? mo farah finished ninth in his- f g 7 mo farah finished ninth in his final tehteh— finished ninth in his final london marathon with a time of two london marathon with a time of the heme— london marathon with a time of the heme tht— london marathon with a time of two hours and ten— london marathon with a time of two hours and ten minutes. the te etttt— two hours and ten minutes. the race is still going— two hours and ten minutes. the race is still going ,_ two hours and ten minutes. the race is still going , though. the race is still going, though. the thtt— race is still going, though. the ttmtt teete— race is still going, though. the ttmtt teeth eet— race is still going, though. the final group set off just under an final group set off just under th hem— final group set off just under th hem tee— final group set off just under an hour ago today. final group set off just under an hour ago today . may's event, an hour ago today. may's event, set an hour ago today. may's event, eet te— an hour ago today. may's event, eet te he— an hour ago today. may's event, eet te he the— an hour ago today. may's event, set to be the largest ever, with at set to be the largest ever, with tt tetet— set to be the largest ever, with at least 45,000 _ set to be the largest ever, with at least 45,000 people taking eth— at least 45,000 people taking ettt. amt— at least 45,000 people taking httt. amt tt-e— at least 45,000 people taking part. and it's hoped around £60

mtttteh— part. and it's hoped around £60 mtttteh mtt— part. and it's hoped around £60 million will be— part. and it's hoped around £60 million will be raised for ehthty— million will be raised for ththty .— million will be raised for charity . the— million will be raised for charity . the scottish government charity. the scottish government eeeht— charity. the scottish government eeeht me— charity. the scottish government spent more than— charity. the scottish government spent more than £300,000 on ttttet— spent more than £300,000 on tiktok before _ spent more than £300,000 on tiktok before banning it because of tiktok before banning it because et eeemtty— tiktok before banning it because of security concerns. it tettemet— of security concerns. it followed a _ of security concerns. it followed a similar decision by the th— followed a similar decision by the uk te— followed a similar decision by the uk to ban— followed a similar decision by the uk to ban the app from eeyemmeht— the uk to ban the app from government devices over concerns thtt— government devices over concerns thtt eehetttve— government devices over concerns that sensitive data— government devices over concerns that sensitive data could be teeeeeet ty— that sensitive data could be accessed by the _ that sensitive data could be accessed by the chinese state. chht— accessed by the chinese state. chht hte— accessed by the chinese state. china has dismissed the claims hete— china has dismissed the claims there thth— china has dismissed the claims more than £338,000 was spent on mtttethe— more than £338,000 was spent on marketing campaigns in just over three— marketing campaigns in just over three yette— marketing campaigns in just over three yette hy— marketing campaigns in just over three years by the _ marketing campaigns in just over three years by the scottish government _ three years by the scottish government from 2020. and two etetmee— government from 2020. and two htetmee et— government from 2020. and two new pictures of prince louis htve— new pictures of prince louis htve teem— new pictures of prince louis have been published as he celebrates— have been published as he celebrates his— have been published as he celebrates his fifth birthday tetty— celebrates his fifth birthday tetty .— celebrates his fifth birthday tetty . he-e— celebrates his fifth birthday today . he's been photographed today. he's been photographed being— today. he's been photographed being etehet— today. he's been photographed being pushed around in a wheelbarrow— being pushed around in a wheelbarrow by his mum . louis is wheelbarrow by his mum. louis is expected— wheelbarrow by his mum. louis is expected te— wheelbarrow by his mum. louis is expected to accompany his eththee— expected to accompany his ettthee h— expected to accompany his siblings in the— expected to accompany his siblings in the procession from meetmhetet— siblings in the procession from westminster abbey during the the-e— westminster abbey during the king's coronation next month . king's coronation next month. amt— king's coronation next month. amt the— king's coronation next month. and the prince— king's coronation next month. and the prince of— king's coronation next month. and the prince of wales is tmeheet— and the prince of wales is amongst those— and the prince of wales is amongst those congratulating mexhtm— amongst those congratulating wrexham football club after getthe— wrexham football club after getting promoted back into the teethttt— getting promoted back into the football league _ getting promoted back into the football league after a 15 year he the— football league after a 15 year absence. the hollywood actors tyth— absence. the hollywood actors tytm teymette— absence. the hollywood actors ryan reynolds and rob mcelhenney amhe— ryan reynolds and rob mcelhenney me the— ryan reynolds and rob mcelhenney arnie, who owned— ryan reynolds and rob mcelhenney arnie, who owned the club, were

in arnie, who owned the club, were th the — arnie, who owned the club, were th the meme — arnie, who owned the club, were in the crowd. they— arnie, who owned the club, were in the crowd. they watched their tetm — in the crowd. they watched their tetm hett— in the crowd. they watched their team beat borehamwood 3—1. mme— team beat borehamwood 3—1. prince william— team beat borehamwood 3—1. prince william says as he's teethe— prince william says as he's looking forward— prince william says as he's looking forward to an exciting thtme— looking forward to an exciting thtme tet— looking forward to an exciting future for the _ looking forward to an exciting future for the club and that they— future for the club and that they te— future for the club and that they are doing— future for the club and that they are doing wales proud . more they are doing wales proud. more on they are doing wales proud. more eh tht— they are doing wales proud. more eh ttt em— they are doing wales proud. more on all our stories— they are doing wales proud. more on all our stories as— they are doing wales proud. more on all our stories as they hthheh — on all our stories as they hthhem. et— on all our stories as they happen. of course , but now on gb happen. of course, but now on gb heme— happen. of course, but now on gb heme ht— happen. of course, but now on gb heme tt te— happen. of course, but now on gb news it is back— happen. of course, but now on gb news it is back to— happen. of course, but now on gb news it is back to ._ news it is back to. emily iththt— news it is back to. emily |ththt yet— news it is back to. emily . thank you very- news it is back to. emily thank you very much, aaron. so news it is back to. emily thank you inery much, aaron. so news it is back to. emily thank you in today'si, aaron. so news it is back to. emily thank you in today's topiron. so let's get stuck in today's top story. you've been hearing in story. as you've been hearing in the news, the labour mp and one time corbynite shadow home secretary diane abbott has lost the whip pending an investigation. this comes as the labour mp published a piece in the observer she was discussing racism and prejudice in the short article, abbott suggested that jewish people do not face racism but face prejudice that redheads face shortly afterwards, the gaffe prone former shadow home secretary

released an apology on twitter. she said she wants to withdraw and disassociate herself from those comments despite diane abbott issuing an apology. a labour spokesperson today came out and said the labour party completely condemn these comments, which are deeply offensive and wrong. the chief whip has suspended the labour whip from diane abbott, pending an investigation . so joining me an investigation. so joining me now to discuss this is gb news deputy political editor tom harwood . and tom, can you bring harwood. and tom, can you bring us the latest ? what you . yes, us the latest? what you. yes, this is an extraordinary- c»; 7 yes, this is an extraordinary series of this is an extraordinary series et eehte— this is an extraordinary series of events that— this is an extraordinary series of events that all— this is an extraordinary series of events that all kicked off the— of events that all kicked off thte memhe— of events that all kicked off this morning when journalists tht— this morning when journalists tht hteet— this morning when journalists and indeed members of the public heeth— and indeed members of the public heeth te— and indeed members of the public hegtm te nethe— and indeed members of the public began to notice a— and indeed members of the public began to notice a curious letter to began to notice a curious letter te the— began to notice a curious letter to the observer— began to notice a curious letter to the observer newspaper mttteh— to the observer newspaper mttteh hy— to the observer newspaper written by the _ to the observer newspaper written by the former shadow heme— written by the former shadow home secretary— written by the former shadow home secretary diane abbott. thte— home secretary diane abbott. thte tettet— home secretary diane abbott. this letter was— home secretary diane abbott. this letter was responding to a hteee— this letter was responding to a the thtt— this letter was responding to a hteee thtt hte— this letter was responding to a piece that was written in the ehttttth— piece that was written in the guardian earlier— piece that was written in the guardian earlier this week, mhteh— guardian earlier this week, which suggested that which was tttthe— which suggested that which was tttthe them— which suggested that which was talking about the _ which suggested that which was talking about the racism faced by talking about the racism faced hy temeh— talking about the racism faced by jewish pewte— talking about the racism faced by jewish people and indeed by httet— by jewish people and indeed by httet heehte— by jewish people and indeed by black people and— by jewish people and indeed by black people and lots of other

meme— black people and lots of other etehhe et— black people and lots of other etehhe et heehte. — black people and lots of other groups of people. diane abbott teehehtet— groups of people. diane abbott teehemtet te— groups of people. diane abbott responded to this— groups of people. diane abbott responded to this article saying thtt— responded to this article saying thtt tt-e— responded to this article saying thtt he met— responded to this article saying that it's not racism that jewish heehte— that it's not racism that jewish heehte ttee— that it's not racism that jewish heehte ttee h— that it's not racism that jewish people face in the— that it's not racism that jewish people face in the same way that httet— people face in the same way that httet heehte— people face in the same way that httet heehte te— people face in the same way that black people do, and instead eemhttet— black people do, and instead compared shared the prejudice tethet— compared shared the prejudice against jewish _ compared shared the prejudice against jewish people and tethet— against jewish people and tetmet tht— against jewish people and against and roma people as well , to against and roma people as well ,te the— against and roma people as well , to the prejudice— against and roma people as well , to the prejudice that redheads or , to the prejudice that redheads et gheete— , to the prejudice that redheads et emgete mee.— , to the prejudice that redheads or gingers face. s— , to the prejudice that redheads or gingers face. s which seemed to or gingers face. s which seemed te he— or gingers face. s which seemed te he the— or gingers face. s which seemed to be the most— or gingers face. s which seemed to be the most extraordinary set of to be the most extraordinary set et tmmhtte— to be the most extraordinary set et tt.ehhtte ht— to be the most extraordinary set of remarks. it was— to be the most extraordinary set of remarks. it was the title of het— of remarks. it was the title of her tettet. — of remarks. it was the title of her letter. it— of remarks. it was the title of her letter. it was— of remarks. it was the title of her letter. it was the conclusion - her letter. it was the conclusion of her letter. it was the— conclusion of her letter. it was the eete— conclusion of her letter. it was the eete heht— conclusion of her letter. it was the sole point of— conclusion of her letter. it was the sole point of her letter. amt— the sole point of her letter. amt them— the sole point of her letter. and then an— the sole point of her letter. and then an extraordinary apology— and then an extraordinary apology by— and then an extraordinary apology by diane abbott tried to mm— apology by diane abbott tried to mttt tmty— apology by diane abbott tried to walk away from _ apology by diane abbott tried to walk away from her remarks by etyhg— walk away from her remarks by etymg thtt— walk away from her remarks by saying that this— walk away from her remarks by saying that this was a first ttttt— saying that this was a first ttttt et— saying that this was a first ttttt et t— saying that this was a first draft of a letter- saying that this was a first draft of a letter sent in error. however, this— draft of a letter sent in error. however, this was— draft of a letter sent in error. however, this was a very curious exehthee— however, this was a very curious exchange eheee— however, this was a very curious exchange shoes and let's not hett— exchange shoes and let's not hett temt— exchange shoes and let's not beat around the— exchange shoes and let's not beat around the bush. that does eemt— beat around the bush. that does eemt very— beat around the bush. that does sound very much— beat around the bush. that does sound very much like an excuse for sound very much like an excuse tet mhtt— sound very much like an excuse tet mhtt mte— sound very much like an excuse for what was published because there— for what was published because there mte— for what was published because there was nothing— for what was published because there was nothing else to the tettet. — there was nothing else to the tettet. h— there was nothing else to the tettet. tt ht— there was nothing else to the letter. if it was— there was nothing else to the letter. if it was a— there was nothing else to the letter. if it was a first draft of something.— letter. if it was a first draft of something. what was the other heht— of something. what was the other heht thtt— of something. what was the other point that diane— of something. what was the other point that diane abbott was ttyhe— point that diane abbott was thyme te— point that diane abbott was trying to make?—

point that diane abbott was trying to make? a very, very curious situation— trying to make? a very, very curious situation indeed, and thtt— curious situation indeed, and one that stretched the realms of etethttty— one that stretched the realms of etethttty tet— one that stretched the realms of credulity for groups like the tetm— credulity for groups like the hettt et— credulity for groups like the board of deputies of british heme— board of deputies of british heme whe— board of deputies of british jews who released their own etttemeht— jews who released their own statement following diane ahhett-e— statement following diane abbott's apology and excuse , abbott's apology and excuse, etyhe— abbott's apology and excuse, etymg thtt— abbott's apology and excuse, saying that they— abbott's apology and excuse, saying that they did not believe thtt— saying that they did not believe thtt thte— saying that they did not believe thtt thte mte— saying that they did not believe that this was simply a first ttttt— that this was simply a first ttttt eem— that this was simply a first draft sent in— that this was simply a first draft sent in error , that that draft sent in error, that that teeeh-t— draft sent in error, that that doesn't really— draft sent in error, that that doesn't really that didn't tettty— doesn't really that didn't really stack— doesn't really that didn't really stack up, that that teht— really stack up, that that teht t— really stack up, that that wasn't a particularly believable etttemeht— wasn't a particularly believable statement. and— wasn't a particularly believable statement. and the board of hehtttee— statement. and the board of hehhttee et— statement. and the board of deputies of british jews called on deputies of british jews called eh the — deputies of british jews called on the labour— deputies of british jews called on the labour party to suspend the temp— on the labour party to suspend the the hem — on the labour party to suspend the whip from diane abbott tettemhe— the whip from diane abbott following that— the whip from diane abbott following that call that is ettetty— following that call that is exactly what _ following that call that is exactly what happened a few heme— exactly what happened a few heme tttet— exactly what happened a few hours after this— exactly what happened a few hours after this incident we teeehet— hours after this incident we teeehet t— hours after this incident we received a communication from the tthem— received a communication from the labour leader's office etyme— the labour leader's office etymg thtt— the labour leader's office saying that the labour party's ehtet— saying that the labour party's ehtet mhth— saying that the labour party's chief whip has— saying that the labour party's chief whip has suspended the temp— chief whip has suspended the the hem — chief whip has suspended the whip from diane— chief whip has suspended the whip from diane abbott, meaning she whip from diane abbott, meaning ehe te— whip from diane abbott, meaning ehe he he— whip from diane abbott, meaning she is no longer— whip from diane abbott, meaning she is no longer a— whip from diane abbott, meaning she is no longer a labour mp. hemevee ehe— she is no longer a labour mp. however, she remains a member of the tthem— however, she remains a member of the tthem ethy— however, she remains a member of the labour party. if— however, she remains a member of the labour party. if that eemthtte— the labour party. if that semantic distinction matters at all. semantic distinction matters at th. se— semantic distinction matters at all. so currently— semantic distinction matters at all. so currently diane abbott

not all. so currently diane abbott met t— all. so currently diane abbott met t tthem— all. so currently diane abbott not a labour mp,— all. so currently diane abbott not a labour mp, still a member of not a labour mp, still a member et the— not a labour mp, still a member et the tthem— not a labour mp, still a member of the labour party— not a labour mp, still a member of the labour party and she is ttehe— of the labour party and she is ttehe th— of the labour party and she is facing an investigation by the tthem— facing an investigation by the tthem tttty— facing an investigation by the labour party into her comments . labour party into her comments. ththt— labour party into her comments. ththt yet— labour party into her comments. ththt yet very— labour party into her comments. thank you very much— labour party into her comments. thank you very much indeed. tom harwood there. our deputy political editor. i can firmly suggest to diane abbott that as a redhead myself, there is absolutely no comparison between the prejudice experienced by gingers and that that jewish people have experienced. you would have thought that was a no brainer, that anyone with a brainer, that anyone with a brain would know. anyway. joining discuss this is joining me to discuss this is former labour adviser john mcternan. john, thank you very much indeed joining me. what much indeed forjoining me. what is your take on this? do you think enough ? think an apology is enough? yeah, she's diane's issued a emttt— yeah, she's diane's issued a emttt tht— yeah, she's diane's issued a swift and sincere— yeah, she's diane's issued a swift and sincere apology. and i thht— swift and sincere apology. and i thht thtt— swift and sincere apology. and i think that that— swift and sincere apology. and i think that that is— swift and sincere apology. and i think that that is enough. she's heeh— think that that is enough. she's been suspended— think that that is enough. she's been suspended and there will be a been suspended and there will be t tthem— been suspended and there will be t tthem tttty— been suspended and there will be a labour party investigation thtt-e— a labour party investigation thtt-e hem— a labour party investigation that's now in— a labour party investigation that's now in the hands of both the mhthe— that's now in the hands of both the mhthe tht— that's now in the hands of both the whips and the— that's now in the hands of both the whips and the labour party . the whips and the labour party. het— the whips and the labour party. amt ._ the whips and the labour party. amt . thmt— the whips and the labour party. and i think we— the whips and the labour party. and i think we have— the whips and the labour party. and i think we have to- the whips and the labour party. and i think we have to accept that diane is a woman who has experienced racism through her career, quite vile, abusive racism and sexism during her

career . as she racism and sexism during her career. as she has said , ed, career. as she has said, ed, that she withdraws the letter disassociates herself from what's in the letter. so i think we have to accept that , that she we have to accept that, that she is deeply sorry she wrote that letter. john, i hear you. but what on earth is she- ’7,0““ but what on earth is she doing htttme— what on earth is she doing pitting different types of racism, different races, ethnicities_ racism, different races, ethnicities against each other? it ethnicities against each other? ht te— ethnicities against each other? ht te ethy— ethnicities against each other? it is really crass— ethnicities against each other? it is really crass and offensive emtt— it is really crass and offensive ethtt .— it is really crass and offensive ethtt . teth— it is really crass and offensive stuff . yeah. but— it is really crass and offensive stuff . yeah. but i— it is really crass and offensive stuff . yeah. but i think she stuff. yeah. but i think she teeehte— stuff. yeah. but i think she teeehte tt. — stuff. yeah. but i think she accepts it. was- stuff. yeah. but i think she accepts it. was that the letter was crass. that's why she has dissociated herself from from the comments. and i think, you know , she's she she's know, she's she she's significant historical figure in the labor party. the first black woman mp actually you know in our party the first black woman mp in the house of commons and she has herself , as mp in the house of commons and she has herself, as i said before, she's been subject to incredible abuse throughout her career. the kinds of threats, the death threats that she receives routinely are appalling . and she's and she's and she

she has she has apologised and dissociated herself from what was was in the letter. i mean, i think it's hard to say what else one can add to that. but surely her experience of racism herself would mean that she would learn from that, that other people experience racism and therefore understand that the persecution of jewish people today and historically should not be compared flippantly . almost to compared flippantly. almost to that experienced _ compared flippantly. almost to that experienced by— compared flippantly. almost to that experienced by red- f: almost to that experienced by red heads like that experienced by red heads ttte me— that experienced by red heads the .— that experienced by red heads like me. i mean,— that experienced by red heads like me. i mean, it's outrageous. - like me. i mean, it's outrageous. john, you seem ttmeet— outrageous. john, you seem ttmeet te— outrageous. john, you seem almost to be— outrageous. john, you seem almost to be dismissing this. 0h,— almost to be dismissing this. eh th— almost to be dismissing this. oh tm theteey— almost to be dismissing this. oh, an apology is okay . well, oh, an apology is okay. well, teth— oh, an apology is okay. well, teh thtt— oh, an apology is okay. well, teh thtt te— oh, an apology is okay. well, tell that to, you— oh, an apology is okay. well, tell that to, you know, jewish heehte— tell that to, you know, jewish heehte mhe — tell that to, you know, jewish heehte mhe te— tell that to, you know, jewish people who are experiencing hate . she— people who are experiencing hate crimes . she she— people who are experiencing hate crimes . she she made- people who are experiencing hate crimes . ct“ crimes. she she made an error. she accepts she made an error . she accepts she made an error. you know, this isn't the game of thrones. we don't want to see her taken through the streets and humiliated. she made she she wrote a letter which she deeply, deeply regrets . um, and i think

deeply regrets. um, and i think that for me , that that is that for me, that that is enough. that is sufficient . her enough. that is sufficient. her record, her record as a campaigner against racism. our records , a campaigner against records, a campaigner against anti—semitism , a records, anti—semitism, a records, a campaigner against discrimination , an stands for discrimination, an stands for itself. so discrimination, an stands for itself . so you don't think that itself. so you don't think that the— itself. so you don't think that thte eheme— itself. so you don't think that thte eheme t— itself. so you don't think that this shows a well— itself. so you don't think that this shows a well ,— so you don't think that this shows a well , a so you don't think that this shows a well, a fundamental tttm— this shows a well, a fundamental tttm h— this shows a well, a fundamental tttm th het— this shows a well, a fundamental flaw in her character and that he— flaw in her character and that her heettteh— flaw in her character and that her position as— flaw in her character and that her position as a— flaw in her character and that her position as a politician , an her position as a politician, an tetmet— her position as a politician, an former shadow— her position as a politician, an former shadow home secretary, to be former shadow home secretary, to he etyhe— former shadow home secretary, to he etymg thmge— former shadow home secretary, to be saying things like this, htttme— be saying things like this, pitting people against one thethee— pitting people against one another, surely— pitting people against one another, surely this is just the eet— another, surely this is just the eet the— another, surely this is just the eet the very— another, surely this is just the worst, the very worst of ttehttty— worst, the very worst of identity politics. diane abbott is identity politics. diane abbott te t— identity politics. diane abbott te t mett— identity politics. diane abbott is a great politician, a great crusader for— is a great politician, a great crusader for as— is a great politician, a great crusader for as a- is a great politician, a great crusader for as a politician . crusader for as a politician. het— crusader for as a politician. amt .— crusader for as a politician. amt . hem-t— crusader for as a politician. and i don't think— crusader for as a politician. and i don't think that- crusader for as a politician. and i don't think that this one simple slip can stand at all against her record as a great politician. so against her record as a great politician . so this is just one politician. so this is just one ehe.— politician. so this is just one ehh. she— politician. so this is just one ehh. she te— politician. so this is just one slip. she is she— politician. so this is just one slip. she is she is— e c. “ so this is just one slip. she is she is very gaffe hete— slip. she is she is very gaffe heme .— slip. she is she is very gaffe prone. i think— slip. she is she is very gaffe prone. i think keir starmer was heht— prone. i think keir starmer was heht te— prone. i think keir starmer was right to suspend— prone. i think keir starmer was right to suspend the whip on

the— right to suspend the whip on this occasion,— right to suspend the whip on this occasion, but we'll be gettme— this occasion, but we'll be eettme mee— this occasion, but we'll be getting more views. thank you very— getting more views. thank you very meth— getting more views. thank you very much indeed, john mcternan there,— very much indeed, john mcternan thete, tetmet— very much indeed, john mcternan there, former labour adviser, etye— there, former labour adviser, etye th— there, former labour adviser, etye tm theteey— there, former labour adviser, says an apology should suffice in says an apology should suffice th the— says an apology should suffice in this situation— says an apology should suffice in this situation .— says an apology should suffice in this situation . joining me in this situation. joining me te— in this situation. joining me now is commentator narinder kaur and now is commentator narinder kaur tht eeeth— now is commentator narinder kaur and research fellow— now is commentator narinder kaur and research fellow at the bow meth— and research fellow at the bow eeeth, hem-tmh— and research fellow at the bow group, benjamin lockney . group, benjamin lockney. hthhtet— group, benjamin lockney. narinder kaur,_ group, benjamin lockney. narinder kaur, you're in the etmhe— narinder kaur, you're in the etmhe mtth— narinder kaur, you're in the studio with me.— narinder kaur, you're in the studio with me. what is your ttte— studio with me. what is your ttte eh— studio with me. what is your take on this?— studio with me. what is your take on this? and look , i think take on this? and look, i think mhtt— take on this? and look, i think mhtt-ettt— take on this? and look, i think what-said was— take on this? and look, i think what said was absolutely what you said was absolutely ttttehtehe. — what you said was absolutely ridiculous. .was- what you said was absolutely ridiculous. t: 00: ridiculous. it was stupid and she's been dealt with and i think storm was dealt with. it swiftly and that's amazing. however you're not defending swiftly and that's amazing. howetthinku're not defending swiftly and that's amazing. howetthink what ot defending swiftly and that's amazing. howetthink what ot d saidiing swiftly and that's amazing. howetthink what ot d said was her. i think what she said was stupid, but it as a brown person in britain, i think what she was trying to say is she wasn't comparing what jews have gone through historically. she's going she's comparing to what black and brown people experience daily and what she's trying to say, i think, is that jews are ethnically white. so when you experience racism every single day as a black or brown person, you can't compare. i think that's what she's trying to say. but narinder kaur, it's het— to say. but narinder kaur, it's het tt-e— to say. but narinder kaur, it's met me het— but narinder kaur, it's just it's just incorrect . just it's just incorrect.

tteththy— just it's just incorrect. factually diane abbott is a hehttetth— factually diane abbott is a politician who _ factually diane abbott is a politician who represents a constituency— politician who represents a constituency that has one of the hteheet— constituency that has one of the highest proportion— constituency that has one of the highest proportion of jewish heehte— highest proportion of jewish heehte living— highest proportion of jewish people living it. it has stamford— people living it. it has stamford hill, which is where htthm— stamford hill, which is where arthur docks— stamford hill, which is where arthur docks jews live. she also teeteeehte— arthur docks jews live. she also represents black. _ arthur docks jews live. she also represents black. if you look . represents black. if you look. of represents black. if you look. ht eemee— represents black. if you look. of course she— represents black. if you look. of course she does. but she ehehtth-t— of course she does. but she shouldn't be _ of course she does. but she shouldn't be pitting them tethet— shouldn't be pitting them tetmet ee— shouldn't be pitting them against one another. but but hhhhe— against one another. but but hhhhe htttme— against one another. but but public pitting against. i think there— public pitting against. i think there he— public pitting against. i think there h t— public pitting against. i think there is a hierarchical system of racism in public. what we of racism in the public. what we do reflects in politics,— of racism in the public. what we do reflects in politics, and- do reflects in politics, and i hem-t— do reflects in politics, and i teh-t hte— do reflects in politics, and i don't like coming on shows and them— don't like coming on shows and them etttemty— don't like coming on shows and then suddenly we're all bothered thett— then suddenly we're all bothered thett — then suddenly we're all bothered about racism -then- then suddenly we're all bothered about racism then we about racism because then we emtt— about racism because then we eehtt-theht— about racism because then we could about sevilla bravo. could talk about sevilla bravo. amt— could talk about sevilla bravo. amt tmhy— could talk about sevilla bravo. and emily-wait.- could talk about sevilla bravo. and emily-wait. and. could talk about sevilla bravo. i and emily-wait. and the and emily couldn't wait. and the way she talks about racism, we could talk this all day could talk about this all day long i don't like that long and i don't like that because diane, because i think actually, diane, what was wrong. but what you said was wrong. but what you said was wrong. but what is equally as what suella said is equally as disgusting. well, we could talk thett—the— disgusting. well, we could talk about—the reason. disgusting. well, we could talki about—the reason why about the reason the reason why me-te-theht— about the reason the reason why we're-about this. - we're talking about this. i mean, benjamin, if you look at the statistics— mean, benjamin, if you look at the statistics from _ mean, benjamin, if you look at the statistics from the home ettte— the statistics from the home emte-ett- the statistics from the home office, read them out. office, i'll just read them out. hem— office, i'll just read them out. hem-ttmeet— office, i'll just read them out. now-almost a— office, i'll just read them out. now almost a quarter of now now almost a quarter of teeettet— now now almost a quarter of recorcrimes.the_ now now almost a quarter of recorcrimes the uk were hate crimes in the uk were tgttmet— hate crimes in the uk were against jewish— hate crimes in the uk were against jewish people in 2021 to 22. the— against jewish people in 2021 to 22. this despite— against jewish people in 2021 to 22. this despite the fact they mtte— 22. this despite the fact they mtte th— 22. this despite the fact they mtte he teee— 22. this despite the fact they make up less than 1% of the hehhttttem— make up less than 1% of the hehhttttem .— make up less than 1% of the population . she— make up less than 1% of the population . she has diminished

population. she has diminished mhtt— population. she has diminished mhtt jewi5h_ population. she has diminished what jewish people are experiencing- what jewish people are experiencing . what jewish people are experiencing. / what jewish people are- experiencing . yeah, absolutely. experiencing. yeah, absolutely. i don't really know why narinder kauris i don't really know why narinder kaur is defending the comments. i'm not defending her. even even diane abbott isn't defending the comments. she came comments. that's why she came out apologised them. she out and apologised to them. she said not said that i'm actually not defending it's one defending her, but but it's one thing draft a letter which thing to draft a letter which you don't agree with. it's another thing to have it published observer and published in the observer and actually think actually send it off. i think really this not a question so really this is not a question so much of what said, but of much of what she said, but of her competence actually carry her competence to actually carry out an mp. because out her tasks as an mp. because if you have had that much experience and understand experience and you understand the that comes the press scrutiny that comes with being in high office, you should know to not send in a letter that deeply letter that's that deeply insensitive a national insensitive to a national paper. i mean, it's i mean, frankly, it's embarrassing. yes that's what i was trying to get at with john mcternan the labour mcternan, the former labour adviser, political adviser, paul political judgement narinder kaur. if anything else. but i'd say i'd say that she's been storm was deau say that she's been storm was dealt with she's apologised dealt with it, she's apologised and i'm not saying let's move on from i'm saying she has from this. i'm saying she has made mistake. it's from this. i'm saying she has made mistake . it's stupid what made a mistake. it's stupid what you can't you said because you can't compare what went through compare what jews went through with red head, say.

with the red head, as you say. emily. however i with the red head, as you say. emily. howeveri don't with the red head, as you say. emily. however i don't think she meant in that way. i think she was comparing everyday experiences of overtly racism, of black and brown people to ethnically white jews. she's saying you can't compare historic racism to everyday experiences. i don't buy that heetee— experiences. i don't buy that heetee .— experiences. i don't buy that because i think— til�* i don't buy that because i think jewish people do ehehemee— because i think jewish people do ehehemee ety— because i think jewish people do experience day to— because i think jewish people do experience day to day. of course ,they— experience day to day. of course , they tty— experience day to day. of course , they tty te— experience day to day. of course , they tty te ety— experience day to day. of course , they day to day racism and discrimination.— , they day to day racism and discrimination. i— , they day to day racism and discrimination. i mean, we just met— discrimination. i mean, we just htt t— discrimination. i mean, we just htt t junior— discrimination. i mean, we just had a junior doctor leader ttemteeet— had a junior doctor leader dismissed from the bma, from the hhtteh— dismissed from the bma, from the british medical— dismissed from the bma, from the british medical association for tethe— british medical association for joking emttme— british medical association for joking online about gassing jews . hemhtmtm— joking online about gassing jews . hemitmtm te— joking online about gassing jews . benjamin, is this— joking online about gassing jews . benjamin, is this just where ttemttty— . benjamin, is this just where identity politics— . benjamin, is this just where identity politics takes us? we htve — identity politics takes us? we htve thte— identity politics takes us? we have this kind— identity politics takes us? we have this kind of— identity politics takes us? we have this kind of idea of some tht— have this kind of idea of some tht et— have this kind of idea of some kind of oppression, olympics, mhete— kind of oppression, olympics, where one, racism is worse than tmethee— where one, racism is worse than another, racism.— where one, racism is worse than another, racism. can't we just in another, racism. can't we just tm eeetety— another, racism. can't we just tm eeetety, h— another, racism. can't we just in society, in 2023, except that hey-ettte— in society, in 2023, except that hey-thee em— in society, in 2023, except that prejudice on the— in society, in 2023, except that prejudice on the basis of your etttem— prejudice on the basis of your tettetem et— prejudice on the basis of your religion or skin— prejudice on the basis of your religion or skin colour is just wrong?— religion or skin colour is just wrong? teth— religion or skin colour is just wrong? yeah well, it's like the thtmg— wrong? yeah well, it's like the thtme ttem — wrong? yeah well, it's like the thing from animal farm all are

emtt— thing from animal farm all are ethth hut— thing from animal farm all are equal, but some— thing from animal farm all are equal, but some are more equal thtm— equal, but some are more equal thtm ethete. — equal, but some are more equal than others. it's— equal, but some are more equal than others. it's this- equal, but some are more equal than others. 0 : than others. it's this idea of, you know, the oppression, tears and the hierarchy of racism that nannda and the hierarchy of racism that narinda was talking about. i think nonsense. the end think it's nonsense. at the end of the day, prejudice is prejudice and racism is racism. hierarchy and racism does exist in_ _ hierarchy and racism does exist tm— hut— hierarchy and racism does exist tm— hut-the- hierarchy and racism does existj in_ but-the case in our society. but in the case creating lord dannatt benjamin finish someone finish and then for someone who was ally and corbyn was a key corbyn ally and corbyn being , you know, obviously being, you know, obviously having scandal around having this huge scandal around anti—semitism, she represents a constituency which is largely orthodox she should have orthodox jewish. she should have them— orthodox jewish. she should have them-thtm— orthodox jewish. she should have known -than to _ orthodox jewish. she should have known -than to go - orthodox jewish. she should have known-than to go and- known better than to go and mhe— known better than to go and mtte t— known better than to go and write a letter— known better than to go and write a letter like this mentioning- write a letter like this mentioning anti—semitism . i mentioning anti—semitism. i thtmt— mentioning anti—semitism. i thtmt tt-e— mentioning anti—semitism. i think it's just— mentioning anti—semitism. i think it's just deeply incompetent . but think it's just deeply incompetent. but i'm not emhheet— incompetent. but i'm not surprised that— incompetent. but i'm not surprised that starmer's ehehemtet— surprised that starmer's suspended her. he probably, tttmtty— suspended her. he probably, tttmtty, mte— suspended her. he probably, frankly, was looking for an excuse, given— frankly, was looking for an excuse, given that she was so theee— excuse, given that she was so eteee te— excuse, given that she was so close to corbyn— excuse, given that she was so close to corbyn and was his hermet— close to corbyn and was his former shadow— close to corbyn and was his former shadow home secretary. amt— former shadow home secretary. amt they-te— former shadow home secretary. amt they-te thyme— former shadow home secretary. and they're trying to root out thtt,— and they're trying to root out thtt, yet — and they're trying to root out that, you know,— and they're trying to root out that, you know, that passed in the httty— that, you know, that passed in the httty tm— that, you know, that passed in the party in order— that, you know, that passed in the party in order to become eteetthte— the party in order to become electable again.— the party in order to become electable again. and frankly, ehe-e— electable again. and frankly, ehe-e httyet— electable again. and frankly, she's played into his she's played right into his htmte— she's played right into his htmte-tt- she's played right into his hands.-it just- she's played right into his hands. it just goes she's played right into his- hands. -it just goes to hands. i mean, it just goes to ehem— hands. i mean, it just goes to ehem thtt— hands. i mean, it just goes to show that-clearly- hands. i mean, it just goes to show that clearly in show that she's clearly in eemhetemt. — show that she's clearly in competent. “ e : show that she's clearly in- competent. imean, it does play competent. i mean, it does play into it's quite into his hand. it's quite interesting narinder interesting politically narinder kaun , interesting politically narinder kaur, , keir kaur, because, of course, keir starmer to cleanse the

starmer wanted to cleanse the party of anti—semitism after the legacy of jeremy corbyn. diane abbott was very much close to jeremy corbyn, serving as shadow home secretary under his leadership . yep. i mean no doubt leadership. yep. i mean no doubt it leadership. yep. i mean no doubt tt te— leadership. yep. i mean no doubt tt te t— leadership. yep. i mean no doubt it is a spectacular— leadership. yep. i mean no doubt it is a spectacular own— : /ti;it i mean no doubt it is a spectacular own goal : /tsit i mean no doubt it is a spectacular own goal . it it is a spectacular own goal. it is. it is a spectacular own goal. it te. amt— it is a spectacular own goal. it te. amt ehe-e— it is a spectacular own goal. it is. and she's made— it is a spectacular own goal. it is. and she's made a huge mtettte— is. and she's made a huge mistake and— is. and she's made a huge mistake and it's- is. and she's made a huge mistake and it's highly embarrassing. however i think the my— embarrassing. however i think the way starmer,— embarrassing. however i think the way starmer, the labour party— the way starmer, the labour tttty htve— the way starmer, the labour party have dealt— the way starmer, the labour party have dealt with it is a far downside,— party have dealt with it is a far downside, better than rishi emtt— far downside, better than rishi shmtt ttt— far downside, better than rishi sunak did with— far downside, better than rishi sunak did with any of his tethmee— sunak did with any of his dealings where he did this and ethere— dealings where he did this and ethete-he-e— dealings where he did this and others-he's dealt- dealings where he did this and others he's dealt with others around. he's dealt with it others around. he's dealt with tt-tm— others around. he's dealt with tt-tm hem.— others around. he's dealt with it-an hour.-has- it within an hour. she has been ehehemtet— it within an hour. she has been suspended and— it within an hour. she has been suspended and that done. so suspended and that is done. so at suspended and that is done. so tt-they-ve— suspended and that is done. so at-they've dealt- suspended and that is done. so at they've dealt with it. at least they've dealt with it. hemevee—te - at least they've dealt with it. however,_to the i however, going back to the hierarchical— however, going back to the hierarchical does hierarchical racism, it does emet— hierarchical racism, it does exist-public— hierarchical racism, it does exist public and exists in exist in public and exists in hehttee.— exist in public and exists in hehttee-met- exist in public and exists in politics. not deny that politics. let's not deny that he— politics. let's not deny that. hte—truth. t it's an uncomfortable truth. i . t— it's an uncomfortable truth. i . t mete— it's an uncomfortable truth. i mean , i spoke-before- it's an uncomfortable truth. i mean , i spoke before we came mean, i spoke to before we came on air, i spoke to a jewish friend who was just absolutely gobsmacked by the comments. benjamin couldn't believe it. it's quite incredible in the real meaning of the word. yeah, absolutely . i real meaning of the word. yeah, absolutely. i think it's- “ “g : yeah, absolutely. i think it's just tt-e— absolutely. i think it's just tt-e eme— absolutely. i think it's just tt-e et— absolutely. i think it's just it's one of those things you teet— it's one of those things you teet tt— it's one of those things you teet tt tht— it's one of those things you look at and you— it's one of those things you look at and you think, why did ehe— look at and you think, why did ehe te—

look at and you think, why did ehe he met— look at and you think, why did she do this? it— look at and you think, why did she do this? it was completely unnecessary. she's only as you ethe— unnecessary. she's only as you an, eeetet— unnecessary. she's only as you an, eeetet tm— unnecessary. she's only as you said, scored an own goal against heteett— said, scored an own goal against heteett. hut— said, scored an own goal against herself. but-to— said, scored an own goal against herself. but to come back herself. but just to come back to herself. but just to come back te-hthmtet— herself. but just to come back to-narinder-said. to what narinder kaur said about them— to what narinder kaur said about them-met— to what narinder kaur said about rishi-not dealing- to what narinder kaur said about rishi not dealing with rishi sunak not dealing with the— rishi sunak not dealing with the-the— rishi sunak not dealing with this, the number of this, i mean, the number of conservative— this, i mean, the number of conservative who've this, i mean, the number of conservative .who've the conservative mps who've had the wp— conservative mps who've had the mhtt-emet— conservative mps who've had the mhtt-evet-htet- conservative mps who've had the whip-over-past year| whip removed over the past year or whip removed over the past year et-t— whip removed over the past year et-t huge— whip removed over the past year or-a huge amount.- whip removed over the past year or a huge amount. the or so is a huge amount. the htmtetet— or so is a huge amount. the htmtetet et— or so is a huge amount. the minister of justice , dominic minister of justice, dominic ttth— minister of justice, dominic ttth mte— minister of justice, dominic raab, was forced to resign yeetettty— raab, was forced to resign yesterday over, _ raab, was forced to resign yesterday over, frankly, quite a htthette— yesterday over, frankly, quite a pathetic reason _ yesterday over, frankly, quite a pathetic reason he resigned . he pathetic reason he resigned. he temt— pathetic reason he resigned. he temt hy— pathetic reason he resigned. he temt hy thy— pathetic reason he resigned. he wasn't by any means shying away mem— wasn't by any means shying away mem ehehemttmg— wasn't by any means shying away from suspending mps. no he does. he from suspending mps. no he does. he resigned-— from suspending mps. no he does. he teetgmet. he— from suspending mps. no he does. he resigned. he wasn't— from suspending mps. no he does. he resigned. he wasn't fired,- he resigned. he wasn't fired, actually. well, he resigned. he wasn't fired, actually. well , there we go. actually. well, there we go. hte-te— actually. well, there we go. mete teme— actually. well, there we go. mete teme te— , well, there we go. we're going to have to finish there.— we're going to have to finish there. thank— we're going to have to finish there. thank you— we're going to have to finish there. thank you very much tmteeh— there. thank you very much 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the evening and during the overnight and that will overnight period and that will bnng overnight period and that will bring some snow the higher bring some snow to the higher ground even sleet to ground areas, even sleet to lower levels. so that cold air pushesin lower levels. so that cold air pushes in elsewhere . the showers pushes in elsewhere. the showers we've seen throughout will we've seen throughout today will gradually way off, gradually clear their way off, but further rain but we'll see further rain across ireland, across northern ireland, underneath clearest underneath some of the clearest spells we have there is the spells we do have there is the potential for frost, potential for a patchy frost, particularly across areas of scotland, and scotland, elsewhere, towns and cities around 4 to 6 c. some brightness first thing, but it is going to be cloudy, particularly for wales, into southwest england as this rain moves in and the cloud building into central and southern areas of throughout the day . of england throughout the day. some sunny spells developing for the half the uk, the northern half of the uk, still a scattering of still with a scattering of showers, particularly across eastern where eastern coastal areas where they could wintry , pushing could still be wintry, pushing in a brisk breeze . and in on quite a brisk breeze. and if exposed to wind if you're exposed to that wind throughout will be throughout the day, it will be feeling to freezing those feeling closer to freezing those showers inland will tend to ease off into monday evening, still persisting across some northern coastal areas. and the cloud across the southern half the across the southern half of the uk begin to push its uk will also begin to push its way off well. underneath some way off as well. underneath some of those clearer intervals that

develop, going to develop, though, it is going to be quite a cold night on monday with the risk of more of a widespread frost. so you just take care of some tender plants. but the clear spells but because of the clear spells that developing, there will that are developing, there will be of sunshine as be a good amount of sunshine as we into tuesday. it's we move into tuesday. and it's looking to be much drier thanks to ridge high pressure to this ridge of high pressure that's only going that's built in. it's only going to be transient, though, because we've further fronts we've got further weather fronts and wants to and low pressure that wants to move in for the middle part of the so there risk the week. so there is the risk that we some further spells that we see some further spells of towards wednesday of rain towards wednesday and thursday. temperatures thursday. but our temperatures should climb up should slowly begin to climb up a more as well by.

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an investigation. this comes as the labour mp published a piece in observer. she was in the observer. she was discussing racism and prejudice in short article she in the short article she suggests jews do not face suggests that jews do not face racism, but they face prejudice similar to that which redheads face shortly afterwards. the gaffe prone former shadow home secretary released an apology on twitter. she said she wants to withdraw and disassociate herself from those comments despite diane abbott issuing an apology of sorts. a labour spokesperson today came out and said the labour party completely condemns these comments which are deeply offensive and wrong. the chief whip has suspended the labour whip from diane abbott, pending an investigation. so we're going to go straight to kelvin mackenzie, former sun ednon kelvin mackenzie, former sun editor, discuss this. kelvin editor, to discuss this. kelvin an apology, that suffice ? an apology, does that suffice? um, well , i'm an apology, does that suffice? um, well, i'm not into the council culture in a massive way , but what this does prove conclusively is that anti semitism is deeply rooted within

the labour party and that no matter how hard starmer either tries or pretends to try , why he tries or pretends to try, why he can't dig it out . there will be can't dig it out. there will be ether— can't dig it out. there will be other examples— can't dig it out. there will be other examples of— can't dig it out. there will be other examples of this- ct?" e t: g e there will be other examples of this of which we them— other examples of this of which we knew met,— other examples of this of which we know not, but— other examples of this of which we know not, but which will mhteh— we know not, but which will mhteh mht— we know not, but which will which will try— we know not, but which will which will try .— we know not, but which will which will try. i'm sure there is which will try. i'm sure there he t— which will try. i'm sure there he t eeeth— which will try. i'm sure there is a group which— which will try. i'm sure there is a group which i could think of is a group which i could think et mtthtm— is a group which i could think of within the _ is a group which i could think of within the labour party who are of within the labour party who very— of within the labour party who vety ,— of within the labour party who yety , very— of within the labour party who are very , very hostile to the are very, very hostile to the temeh— are very, very hostile to the jewish population . even their jewish population. even their temeh— jewish population. even their jewish voters _ jewish population. even their jewish voters ,— jewish population. even their jewish voters , i— jewish population. even their jewish voters , i suspect, and jewish voters, i suspect, and they— jewish voters, i suspect, and they teee— jewish voters, i suspect, and they keep getting, they keep theme— they keep getting, they keep thhhtme htm— they keep getting, they keep tripping him up. now and what i temt— tripping him up. now and what i don't understand— tripping him up. now and what i don't understand is she she look , i don't understand is she she look , t temt— don't understand is she she look , t tem-t thtmt— don't understand is she she look , i don't think she's— don't understand is she she look , i don't think she's the hhehteet— , i don't think she's the brightest person around. how teee— brightest person around. how teee ehe— brightest person around. how does she announce that she's disassociated_ does she announce that she's disassociated herself from these temttet— disassociated herself from these temttet e— disassociated herself from these remarks ? after— disassociated herself from these remarks ? after all, she she was remarks? after all, she she was the teen — remarks? after all, she she was the person that— remarks? after all, she she was the person that wrote the temttet— the person that wrote the remarks and _ the person that wrote the remarks and said that and sent the tettet— remarks and said that and sent the tettet tm— remarks and said that and sent the letter in. i— remarks and said that and sent the letter in. i sent the email in. the letter in. i sent the email tm. t— the letter in. i sent the email tm. t metm— the letter in. i sent the email in. i mean, what— the letter in. i sent the email in. i mean, what an extraordinary i mean, it was in. i mean, what an— extraordinary i mean, it was the theettem— extraordinary i mean, it was the question labour— extraordinary i mean, it was the question labour party has to ttee— question labour party has to ttee te— question labour party has to ttee he te— question labour party has to face is, are they— question labour party has to face is, are they genuinely

anti—semitic— face is, are they genuinely anti—semitic or- face is, are they genuinely anti—semitic or are they, as i eheheet— anti—semitic or are they, as i eheheet ,— anti—semitic or are they, as i eheheet , tet— anti—semitic or are they, as i suspect , act genuinely semitic , suspect, act genuinely semitic, thtt— suspect, act genuinely semitic, thtt they— suspect, act genuinely semitic, thtt they etm-t— suspect, act genuinely semitic, that they can't get it out of themeehee— that they can't get it out of themselves ?_ that they can't get it out of themselves ? i— that they can't get it out of themselves ? i mean , of course we themselves? i mean, of course we etm-t— themselves? i mean, of course we etm-t me— themselves? i mean, of course we etm-t me etm-t— themselves? i mean, of course we etm-t me etm-t ttt— themselves? i mean, of course we can't we can't tar the— themselves? i mean, of course we can't we can't tar the labour party— can't we can't tar the labour tttty ett— can't we can't tar the labour httty ett the— can't we can't tar the labour party off the back of diane hhhett-e— party off the back of diane abbott's hideous comments. temettmt— abbott's hideous comments. temettmt et— abbott's hideous comments. ignorant or emily— abbott's hideous comments. ignorant or emily it- abbott's hideous comments. ignorant or emily it was- abbott's hideous comments. ignorant or emily it was only only a few years ago that they had corbyn running the joint and nobody there was there was lots of this, that and the other going on. but only when starmer 00 “g but only when starmer came over and basically kicked htm— came over and basically kicked htm ett— came over and basically kicked htm ett et— came over and basically kicked him out of the— came over and basically kicked him out of the party and i eheheet— him out of the party and i eheheet he-e— him out of the party and i suspect he's going to do the same here. this— suspect he's going to do the same here. this will not stop it . i same here. this will not stop it . t metm— same here. this will not stop it . t tt-h— same here. this will not stop it . i mean, it'll be— same here. this will not stop it . i mean, it'll be ingrained anti—jewish— . i mean, it'll be ingrained anti—jewish ishness within tthem— anti—jewish ishness within tthem. t— anti—jewish ishness within labour. i mean,— anti—jewish ishness within labour. i mean, it'll be quite extraordinary— labour. i mean, it'll be quite extraordinary if— labour. i mean, it'll be quite extraordinary if she does get heetet— extraordinary if she does get heetet ett— extraordinary if she does get booted out of— extraordinary if she does get booted out of the party all teeethet— booted out of the party all together for— booted out of the party all together for this. “ together for this. i mean, i eeeth— together for this. i mean, i could certainly see the case for this, but she clearly believes, does she not, she clearly believes from words that believes from her words that some racism's are worse than other racism is this is a horrible way of looking at the world. it's identity politics gone mad . and i can safely say

gone mad. and i can safely say as a red head, there is absolutely no comparison between any prejudice i have experienced for being a ginger and that which jews have experienced today and have experienced historically. yes, today and have experienced historically . yes, well , i mean, historically. yes, well, i mean, mhtt— historically. yes, well, i mean, mhtt te— historically. yes, well, i mean, what is astonishing— historically. yes, well, i mean, what is astonishing is- “ tiftcct yes, well, i mean, what is astonishing is that tmyhety— what is astonishing is that tmyhety hte— what is astonishing is that anybody has to _ what is astonishing is that anybody has to say that. yeah, thtt— anybody has to say that. yeah, thtt teee— anybody has to say that. yeah, thtt eeee te— anybody has to say that. yeah, that goes to show— anybody has to say that. yeah, that goes to show the stupidity of that goes to show the stupidity et httme— that goes to show the stupidity of diane abbott.— that goes to show the stupidity of diane abbott. now she's got a tem— of diane abbott. now she's got a long htetety— of diane abbott. now she's got a long htetety et— of diane abbott. now she's got a long history of stupidity and but long history of stupidity and hut tm— long history of stupidity and hut h the— long history of stupidity and but in this case,— long history of stupidity and but in this case, she's tipped heht— but in this case, she's tipped heht ever— but in this case, she's tipped heht .— but in this case, she's tipped right over. and— but in this case, she's tipped right over. and what it probably means is that— right over. and what it probably means is that she— right over. and what it probably means is that she probably teeem-t— means is that she probably doesn't actually albie spend any ttme— doesn't actually albie spend any ttme mtth— doesn't actually albie spend any ttme mtth the— doesn't actually albie spend any time with the jewish community at time with the jewish community tt th. — time with the jewish community tt th. amt— time with the jewish community tt th. amt ee— time with the jewish community at all. and so from _ time with the jewish community at all. and so from now onwards, ehe-e— at all. and so from now onwards, ehe-e tethe— at all. and so from now onwards, ehe-e teme te— at all. and so from now onwards, she's going to spend a lot more ttme— she's going to spend a lot more ttme mtth— she's going to spend a lot more time with them.— she's going to spend a lot more time with them. apologise rising for time with them. apologise rising tet mhtt— time with them. apologise rising tet mhtt ehe— time with them. apologise rising for what she says— time with them. apologise rising for what she says or or face the same issue that— for what she says or or face the same issue that corbyn faces , same issue that corbyn faces, mhteh— same issue that corbyn faces, mhteh te— same issue that corbyn faces, which is standing— same issue that corbyn faces, which is standing as an independent— which is standing as an independent in in her constituency, which i would have theheht— constituency, which i would have thehght mte— constituency, which i would have thought was probably the most htety— thought was probably the most htety thtme— thought was probably the most likely thing that— thought was probably the most likely thing that is going to hthhem. — likely thing that is going to hthhem. et— likely thing that is going to happen. of course. stamford hemm— happen. of course. stamford kelvin,iwould_ happen. of course. stamford kelvin, would like to know who kelvin, i would like to know who it kelvin, i would like to know who tt te— kelvin, i would like to know who tt te mtthtm— kelvin, i would like to know who it is within the _ kelvin, i would like to know who it is within the labour party mhe— it is within the labour party

mhe te— it is within the labour party mhe he met— it is within the labour party who is not anti—semitic. i would het— who is not anti—semitic. i would het hte— who is not anti—semitic. i would met the them— who is not anti—semitic. i would just like them all— who is not anti—semitic. i would just like them all to fill in a tem— just like them all to fill in a tetm etytme— just like them all to fill in a tetm etytmg t— just like them all to fill in a form saying i guarantee you to you,— form saying i guarantee you to yet, t— form saying i guarantee you to yet, t tm— form saying i guarantee you to yet, t tm met— form saying i guarantee you to you, i am not anti—semitic . they you, i am not anti—semitic. they temt— you, i am not anti—semitic. they tem-t htve— you, i am not anti—semitic. they tem-t htve te— you, i am not anti—semitic. they don't have to prove— you, i am not anti—semitic. they don't have to prove it. they het— don't have to prove it. they met me— don't have to prove it. they met htve te— don't have to prove it. they just have to say— don't have to prove it. they just have to say it. the theettem— just have to say it. the question the- just have to say it. the question the question for diane hhhett— question the question for diane hhhett te— question the question for diane abbott is could— question the question for diane abbott is could she, prior to the— abbott is could she, prior to thte htve— abbott is could she, prior to this, have said— abbott is could she, prior to this, have said that ? could she this, have said that? could she htve— this, have said that? could she htve ettt— this, have said that? could she have said that?— this, have said that? could she have said that? i— this, have said that? could she have said that? i don't know. cethym— have said that? i don't know. corbyn refuses— have said that? i don't know. corbyn refuses point blank to teththy— corbyn refuses point blank to actually make— corbyn refuses point blank to actually make the simplest of announcements— actually make the simplest of announcements about about his tem— announcements about about his temttte— announcements about about his view towards jews. _ announcements about about his view towards jews. he could eth— view towards jews. he could etht he— view towards jews. he could etht he tm— view towards jews. he could still be in the _ view towards jews. he could still be in the party today if he mte— still be in the party today if he was prepared— still be in the party today if he was prepared to say that . he was prepared to say that. amethy— he was prepared to say that. heththy, te— he was prepared to say that. actually, do you— he was prepared to say that. actually, do you know what the truth — actually, do you know what the truth thett— actually, do you know what the truth about the _ actually, do you know what the truth about the matter? i've heem— truth about the matter? i've been misunderstood on this. i he— been misunderstood on this. i teme teme— been misunderstood on this. i teme teme .— been misunderstood on this. i love jews . right.— been misunderstood on this. i love jews . right. well, let me love jews. right. well, let me het— love jews. right. well, let me met ety— love jews. right. well, let me met ety thtt— love jews. right. well, let me just say that kelvin doesn't httme— just say that kelvin doesn't diane abbott— just say that kelvin doesn't diane abbott just say that ? diane abbott just say that? hehm — diane abbott just say that? hehm meth— diane abbott just say that? kelvin well, corbyn's- diane abbott just say that? kelvin well, corbyn's influence , thankfully, has has reduced since significantly within the labour party. but going back to the position that diane abbott is in, she represents a constituency which is home to stamford hill. most people will know that that is an area that

has a large proportion of orthodox jewish people within it that makes it incredibly well . that makes it incredibly well. you can just see the political misjudgement there, but also particularly offensive . yes, particularly offensive. yes, right. so that is a very- i yes, right. so that is a very good tetm.— right. so that is a very good hetmt. amt— right. so that is a very good hetmt. amt te— right. so that is a very good point. and do you know that that thtt— point. and do you know that that thtt t— point. and do you know that that thtt t them— point. and do you know that that that i know many— point. and do you know that that that i know many i— point. and do you know that that that i know many i don't know all that i know many i don't know th et— that i know many i don't know th et them— that i know many i don't know th et them ,— that i know many i don't know all of them , obviously, but all of them, obviously, but i them— all of them, obviously, but i knew mtmy— all of them, obviously, but i knew mtmy et— all of them, obviously, but i know many of the jews in that in thtt— know many of the jews in that in thtt tet— know many of the jews in that in thtt .— know many of the jews in that in that area . basically, there is that area. basically, there is they— that area. basically, there is they htve— that area. basically, there is they have their— that area. basically, there is they have their own kind of semi hehee— they have their own kind of semi hehee tetee — they have their own kind of semi hehee tetee tm— they have their own kind of semi police force in which they are teehme— police force in which they are looking after— police force in which they are looking after and— police force in which they are looking after and guarding heehte— looking after and guarding heehte mhe— looking after and guarding people who are under attack . people who are under attack. etthetex— people who are under attack. orthodox jews _ people who are under attack. orthodox jews are under the most enormous pressures— orthodox jews are under the most enormous pressures in those constituencies— enormous pressures in those constituencies and there's all hmte— constituencies and there's all hmte et— constituencies and there's all kinds of people— constituencies and there's all kinds of people who would like to kinds of people who would like te mhe— kinds of people who would like to drive them— kinds of people who would like to drive them out— kinds of people who would like to drive them out of london. they-t— to drive them out of london. they-t hte— to drive them out of london. they'd like to— to drive them out of london. they'd like to drive them out of the tet.— they'd like to drive them out of the hem— they'd like to drive them out of the area. now i'm— they'd like to drive them out of the area. now i'm not going to go the area. now i'm not going to 90 hte— the area. now i'm not going to ge tmte the— the area. now i'm not going to ge tmte the tm— the area. now i'm not going to go into the i'm not going to go hte— go into the i'm not going to go tmte the— go into the i'm not going to go into the faith— go into the i'm not going to go into the faith aspect of this. hut— into the faith aspect of this. htt yet — into the faith aspect of this. htt yet eem-t— into the faith aspect of this. but you don't have to be a theme— but you don't have to be a eemtte te— but you don't have to be a genius to work— but you don't have to be a genius to work out who would

prefer— genius to work out who would htetet thtt— genius to work out who would prefer that they— genius to work out who would prefer that they weren't that they— prefer that they weren't that they-tm— prefer that they weren't that they-in. well,- prefer that they weren't that they in. well, with they weren't in. well, with hetth— they weren't in. well, with north -well, - they weren't in. well, with north-well, andi they weren't in. well, with- north -well, and we've north london. well, and we've seen statistics from seen shocking statistics from the office on just many the home office on just how many hate crimes are perpetuated or perpetrated jewish perpetrated against jewish people. much people. thank you very much indeed for your time. kelvin mackenzie there, former sun editor , a labour editor on diane abbott, a labour spokesperson said the labour spokesperson has said the labour party completely these party completely condemns these comments which deeply comments, which are deeply offensive chief offensive and wrong. the chief whip has suspended the labour offensive and wrong. the chief whip from ;uspended the labour offensive and wrong. the chief whip from diane ded the labour offensive and wrong. the chief whip from diane abbott, labour offensive and wrong. the chief whip from diane abbott, pending offensive and wrong. the chief whinvestigationt abbott, pending offensive and wrong. the chief whinvestigation strongt, pending offensive and wrong. the chief whinvestigation strong stuffiding an investigation strong stuff there. you are watching and listening to gb sunday with listening to gb news sunday with me, carver . lots more me, emily carver. lots more coming up on today's show. is the over for electric cars the hype over for electric cars 7 the hype over for electric cars ? investigation by reuters has found most popular found that the most popular electric car has gone up by 20% in the last year. i'll be asking, should the government drop their all electric 2035 policy? of that to come. but policy? all of that to come. but first, let's get the latest headunes first, let's get the latest headlines with arron armstrong . headlines with arron armstrong. hi there. it's 1:33 headlines with arron armstrong. hi there. it's1:33 a.m. arron htmettemt— hi there. it's1:33 a.m. arron htmettemt tm— hi there. it's1:33 a.m. arron armstrong in the— hi there. it's1:33 a.m. arron armstrong in the gb- it“tss it's1:33 a.m. arron armstrong in the gb news room. tem— armstrong in the gb news room. tteht etmtt— armstrong in the gb news room. rishi sunak says— armstrong in the gb news room. rishi sunak says uk armed forces

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or terror attacks _ situations like fires, flooding or terror attacks . and diane or terror attacks. and diane hhhett-e— or terror attacks. and diane abbott's been— or terror attacks. and diane abbott's been suspended as a tthett— abbott's been suspended as a tthett ht— abbott's been suspended as a labour mp pending an investigation for saying jewish heehte— investigation for saying jewish heehte te— investigation for saying jewish heehte met— investigation for saying jewish people are not subjected to . tm— people are not subjected to . h t— people are not subjected to racism . in a letter for the racism. in a letter for the theme— racism. in a letter for the observer newspaper, the former ehttem— observer newspaper, the former shadow health— observer newspaper, the former shadow health secretary said mtmy— shadow health secretary said mtmy tyhee— shadow health secretary said mtmy tyhee et— shadow health secretary said many types of white people with hetmte— many types of white people with hetmte et— many types of white people with points of difference like irish, remeh— points of difference like irish, temteh et— points of difference like irish, jewish or red—headed people are ethr-eetet— jewish or red—headed people are ethr-eetet te— jewish or red—headed people are subjected to prejudice us, but they— subjected to prejudice us, but they temt— subjected to prejudice us, but they don't experience racism. ms hhhett— they don't experience racism. ms hhhett hte— they don't experience racism. ms abbott has since— they don't experience racism. ms abbott has since withdrawn the temttet— abbott has since withdrawn the temttet tht— abbott has since withdrawn the remarks and has— abbott has since withdrawn the remarks and has apologised for any remarks and has apologised for my ettemee. — remarks and has apologised for any offence. caused a labour party— any offence. caused a labour party spokesperson has condemned the emmemte— party spokesperson has condemned the comments as— party spokesperson has condemned the comments as deeply offensive and the comments as deeply offensive tmt meme— the comments as deeply offensive tmt meme .— the comments as deeply offensive tmt wrong . the-te— the comments as deeply offensive and wrong . we're on tv online and wrong. we're on tv online hte— and wrong. we're on tv online hhh tht— and wrong. we're on tv online dab and tuneln_ and wrong. we're on tv online dab and tunein radio two. this is dab and tunein radio two. this he he— dab and tunein radio two. this he he heme— dab and tunein radio two. this is gb news says— dab and tunein radio two. this is gb news says emily will be htet— is gb news says emily will be htet tttem— is gb news says emily will be back after the— is gb news says emily will be back after the .—

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the theme — labour mp published a piece in the observer. she— labour mp published a piece in the observer. she was discussing tht— the observer. she was discussing racism and prejudice. the racism and prejudice. in the ttttete— racism and prejudice. in the article, suggested that article, abbott suggested that remeh— article, abbott suggested that remeh heehte— article, abbott suggested that jewish people not face racism jewish people do not face racism but jewish people do not face racism htt tmetett— jewish people do not face racism but instead face— jewish people do not face racism but instead face prejudice that tethette— but instead face prejudice that redheads also— but instead face prejudice that redheads also face. shortly tttemttte— redheads also face. shortly afterwards, the _ redheads also face. shortly afterwards, the gaffe prone tetmet— afterwards, the gaffe prone former shadow— afterwards, the gaffe prone former shadow home secretary teteteet— former shadow home secretary teteteet tm— former shadow home secretary released an apology on twitter. she— released an apology on twitter. she ettt— released an apology on twitter. she ettt ehe— released an apology on twitter. she said she wants to withdraw tht— she said she wants to withdraw and - associate - she said she wants to withdraw and associate herself and disavow associate herself hem— and disavow associate herself from -comments,- and disavow associate herself from comments, despite from those comments, despite httme— from those comments, despite diane abbott— from those comments, despite diane abbott issuing an apology. a diane abbott issuing an apology. h tthett— diane abbott issuing an apology. a labour spokesman spokesperson tetty— a labour spokesman spokesperson tetty ttme— a labour spokesman spokesperson tetty ett— a labour spokesman spokesperson today came out and— a labour spokesman spokesperson today came out and said the tthett— today came out and said the tthett tttty— today came out and said the labour party completely condemns theee— labour party completely condemns these comments— labour party completely condemns these comments ,— labour party completely condemns these comments , which are deeply these comments, which are deeply ettemehe— these comments, which are deeply ememte—.— these comments, which are deeply offensive_. the- these comments, which are deeply offensive_. the chief. offensive and wrong. the chief mhtt— offensive and wrong. the chief whip-suspended- offensive and wrong. the chief whip suspended the labour whip has suspended the labour whip_ whip has suspended the labour mhtt-httme— whip has suspended the labour whip diane abbott, pending whip from diane abbott, pending an whip from diane abbott, pending tm—htht- an investigation. the right teetetem— an investigation. the right teetetem .— an investigation. the right decision . joining an investigation. the right decision .joining me an investigation. the right decision . joining me to an investigation. the right decision .joining me to discuss decision. joining me to discuss the— decision. joining me to discuss thte te— decision. joining me to discuss thte he he — decision. joining me to discuss this is dr. rabbi— decision. joining me to discuss this is dr. rabbi jonathan temttm— this is dr. rabbi jonathan temttm-yet- this is dr. rabbi jonathan romain. you very much romain. thank you very much tmteet. — romain. thank you very much indeed. rabbi— romain. thank you very much indeed. rabbi your reaction ? indeed. rabbi your reaction? meth— indeed. rabbi your reaction? mett. mhtt— indeed. rabbi your reaction? well, what an— indeed. rabbi your reaction? well, what an unbelievable level of stupidity and ignorance . i of stupidity and ignorance. i mean, i don't honestly know whether— mean, i don't honestly know whether diane— mean, i don't honestly know whether diane abbott herself is heteemthy— whether diane abbott herself is personally prejudiced against reme— personally prejudiced against teme htt— personally prejudiced against jews, but she's— personally prejudiced against jews, but she's obviously got a tettt— jews, but she's obviously got a tettt hhmt— jews, but she's obviously got a total blind spot. _ jews, but she's obviously got a total blind spot. ' “t: jews, but she's obviously got a total blind spot. '“t: total blind spot. and i think you— total blind spot. and i think you and the comments you've had from viewers already , it just from viewers already, it just show how amazed we are and for three firstly you know,

three reasons. firstly you know, she's someone who has personally experience racism herself , and experience racism herself, and therefore you'd expect her to be a little bit more sensitive to others . no. secondly she was others. no. secondly she was very much at the heart of the corbyn project, and she knows what went wrong and the lack of sensitivity and the total blind spot that corbyn himself displayed and she must have, you know, the fact that she hasn't learned from it is just even more remarkable. and we can all make mistakes, but not to learn from those mistakes and, you know, corbyn had this attitude that just because he was anti—racist meant he couldn't possibly be anti—semitic . well, possibly be anti—semitic. well, he could be, and he didn't realise it. and the same thing seems to be happening with her. and thirdly, you know, where is she mp for well, she's mp for what is it, hackney north and stoke has a stoke newington, which has got a high jewish high density of jewish population . and she, you know, population. and she, you know, she must know her constituents, she must know her constituents, she know that jewish she must know that jewish history and fortunately has been characterised by centuries of

persecution and prejudice . and persecution and prejudice. and therefore her to come out with these remarks is really just beyond belief. i mean , it's just beyond belief. i mean, it's just just quite amazing that any intelligent human being , intelligent human being, particularly in someone in a position of responsibility , will position of responsibility, will come out with this. so i'm actually rather glad that she's been suspended because it just shows that the political party, labour are sort of just aware of just how well can't decide to be honest, whether it's offensive or stupid, but it's certainly an unholy mix of both . well, she unholy mix of both. well, she needs to think you'd be forgiven for finding it offensive . for finding it offensive. clearly a lot of people have for finding it offensive. - clearly a lot of people have and a clearly a lot of people have and t tet— clearly a lot of people have and t tet et— clearly a lot of people have and t tet et heehte— clearly a lot of people have and a lot of people will— clearly a lot of people have and a lot of people will if they htvem-t— a lot of people will if they haven't seen _ a lot of people will if they haven't seen this already. but mhtt— haven't seen this already. but mhtt ethtee— haven't seen this already. but what strikes me— haven't seen this already. but what strikes me is clearly from the— what strikes me is clearly from thte ttttete— what strikes me is clearly from thte ttttete ,— what strikes me is clearly from this article , diane— what strikes me is clearly from this article , diane abbott this article, diane abbott hehevee— this article, diane abbott believes that— this article, diane abbott believes that there is a htetttehy— believes that there is a hierarchy of— believes that there is a hierarchy of racism and that remeh— hierarchy of racism and that temteh tht— hierarchy of racism and that jewish and anti—semitism isn't htth— jewish and anti—semitism isn't htth em— jewish and anti—semitism isn't high em thtt— jewish and anti—semitism isn't high on that list— jewish and anti—semitism isn't high on that list .— jewish and anti—semitism isn't high on that list . well you high on that list. well you there— high on that list. well you there he— high on that list. well you there he he— high on that list. well you

there is no such- high on that list. well you there is no such thing as a htetttehy— there is no such thing as a hierarchy of— there is no such thing as a hierarchy of suffering . ' “t: hierarchy of suffering. and you them.— hierarchy of suffering. and you them. te— hierarchy of suffering. and you know, as someone who only has a small family because the killed my great grandparents and uncles and aunts in the concentration camps, you know, i don't want to say my suffering is worse than that of a black person. we're all suffering and for her not to be aware of that, i mean, even children at school do holocaust education and not to be aware of the suffering of others and not just jews, of course, but other people. and to say that black people. and to say that black people have only got a hierarchy of suffering that nobody else has experienced, again, it's just the level of ignorance that gets me and how unintelligent and unaware and unhistorical can you be? and do we want someone like that being in parliament? yes, it does. it does seem it teee— yes, it does. it does seem it “03 c : it does seem it does seem as though diane abbott teee— does seem as though diane abbott teee met— does seem as though diane abbott teee met them— does seem as though diane abbott does not know her— does seem as though diane abbott does not know her history, to say— does not know her history, to ety the— does not know her history, to ety the tetet. — does not know her history, to say the least. and that's being tht.— say the least. and that's being the teth— say the least. and that's being kind. yeah she— say the least. and that's being kind. yeah she doesn't know the htetety. — kind. yeah she doesn't know the htetety. she— kind. yeah she doesn't know the history. she doesn't- kind. yeah she doesn't know the history. : c history. she doesn't know the constituents that she's supposed to be representing. i mean, you know, whatever her political

views , i would not want her to views, i would not want her to be my mp if i was living in hackney north and stoke newington. so hopefully we the voters will will, will express an opinion. well, we'll find out , depending on if she has to run as an independent. we shall see. we'll as an independent. we shall see. the-h eee— as an independent. we shall see. the-h mhtt— as an independent. we shall see. we'll see what happens- t?" 3: we shall see. we'll see what happens with eeme— we'll see what happens with eemte ett— we'll see what happens with events. but thank you very much tmteeh— events. but thank you very much tmteet, tthht— events. but thank you very much indeed, rabbi jonathan remain there— indeed, rabbi jonathan remain there-tmmt- indeed, rabbi jonathan remain there-giving his- there talking, giving his etttem— there talking, giving his reaction abbott's reaction to diane abbott's comments . but moving off that comments. but moving off that teete— comments. but moving off that term tet— comments. but moving off that term tet eme— comments. but moving off that topic for one moment, speaking of topic for one moment, speaking et htetety— topic for one moment, speaking et htetety ,— topic for one moment, speaking of history , today— topic for one moment, speaking of history , today is saint of history, today is saint eeette-e— of history, today is saint eeeme-e hty— of history, today is saint george's day, of course . towns george's day, of course. towns tht— george's day, of course. towns tmt etttee— george's day, of course. towns and cities across— george's day, of course. towns and cities across england are eemtmt— and cities across england are coming together— and cities across england are coming together throughout the day coming together throughout the tty—eeetetem- coming together throughout the tty—eeetetem .- coming together throughout the l day—occasion . family day to mark the occasion. family fun day to mark the occasion. family ttm-httmmet— day to mark the occasion. family ttm-httmmet .- day to mark the occasion. family fun-planned . it's- fun days are planned. it's etheetet— fun days are planned. it's expected that— fun days are planned. it's expected that thousands will ttte — expected that thousands will ttte ettt— expected that thousands will the ettt tm— expected that thousands will take part in the— expected that thousands will take part in the experience with tee— take part in the experience with dancers , dragons,— take part in the experience with dancers , dragons, knights dancers, dragons, knights eememt— dancers, dragons, knights providing entertainment for ttmthee— providing entertainment for ttmtttee hy— providing entertainment for families by celebrating tmettmt-e— families by celebrating england's heritage and culture. tet-e— england's heritage and culture. tet-e mem— england's heritage and culture. let's now cross— england's heritage and culture. let's now cross over to ttttttttt— let's now cross over to trafalgar square in london, eeeth— trafalgar square in london, eeeth te— trafalgar square in london, ehett te eh— trafalgar square in london, speak to gb news national tehettet— speak to gb news national reporter paul— speak to gb news national reporter paul hawkins. paul how? teth— reporter paul hawkins. paul how? yeah. afternoon— reporter paul hawkins. paul how? yeah. afternoon emily. “tsits etits yeah. afternoon emily. there are zeeee— yeah. afternoon emily. there are zeeee heehte— yeah. afternoon emily. there are 20,000 people here last year. don't think we're going to get

thtt— don't think we're going to get thtt mtmy— don't think we're going to get that many today— don't think we're going to get that many today because of the metthet. — that many today because of the metthet. ttt— that many today because of the weather. c . ts that many today because of the weather. c weather. but nevertheless, we are still celebrating. the patron saint of cc “g the patron saint of england here in ttttttttt— patron saint of england here in trafalgar square— patron saint of england here in trafalgar square looked on by heteem— trafalgar square looked on by nelson.ithere's_ trafalgar square looked on by nelson. “gt; nelson. there's also things going on, actually, people out there performing. there on the stage performing. we choir up there earlier. we had a choir up there earlier. mete-e— we had a choir up there earlier. thete-e teet— we had a choir up there earlier. there's food stalls— we had a choir up there earlier. there's food stalls going- we had a choir up there earlier. there's food stalls going on- there's food stalls going on over here. we've got some tmtthte— over here. we've got some knights-we're- over here. we've got some knights -we're to knights training. we're going to tttt— knights training. we're going to tttt-et— knights training. we're going to talk-of those- knights training. we're going to talk of those people talk to some of those people thtt— talk to some of those people thtt-tmmt— talk to some of those people that-giving that- talk to some of those people that giving that training at that are giving that training at the memet — that are giving that training at the moment. “tsits ng the moment. there's also pearly kings as well, kings and queens here as well, including bob. good including clive and bob. good to speak to both you. including clive and bob. good to speak to both-you. first- including clive and bob. good to speak to both-you. first of- speak to both of you. first of an.— speak to both of you. first of an, hem— speak to both of you. first of an, hem te— speak to both of you. first of all, how are you— speak to both of you. first of all, how are you feeling about sttmt— all, how are you feeling about saint george's— all, how are you feeling about saint george's well we love saint george's day? well we love tt. — saint george's day? well we love tt. ittmtye— saint george's day? well we love tt. ittmtye-th- saint george's day? well we love it. .always-up here. . saint george's day? well we lovej it. .always-up here. we it. we always come up here. we come up for years and years. it's lovely to meet the it's lovely toymeet the «public it's lovely to meet the public tht— it's lovely to meet the public tmt ttet— it's lovely to meet the public the rtet ehe— it's lovely to meet the public and just give little bit of and just give a little bit of ttm— and just give a little bit of ttm htet— and just give a little bit of fun back and— and just give a little bit of fun back and bring smile or fun back and bring a smile or he — fun back and bring a smile or he teth— fun back and bring a smile or face. yeah. bob,— fun back and bring a smile or face. “tilt?“ : c face. yeah. bob, what does it mean a pearly king? what mean to be a pearly king? what is that all about? yeah, it's all about charity. we give. is that all about? “tilt?“ c ti.“riti cg we give. we all about charity. we give. we don't all about charity. we give. we tem-t thttte— all about charity. we give. we don't charge for— all about charity. we give. we don't charge for our- ti.“riti cg we give. we don't charge for our time or tmythtmt— don't charge for our time or tmythtme ttte— don't charge for our time or anything like that. '“t: don't charge for our time or anything like that. '“: anything like that. and what we do, collect throughout do, we collect money throughout the year, different occasions and the of and functions. and at the end of the we the money out the year we divide the money out and goes to charities. yeah. and it goes to charities. yeah. so it's all for a good cause. they're all for a good cause.

and what does the george's day te— and what does the george's day te yet— and what does the george's day te yet tm— and what does the george's day mean to you in terms of being tmtheh— mean to you in terms of being english, etcetera? c english, etcetera? well, it's the— english, etcetera? well, it's like pearly kings like the pearly kings and queens. it's a part of our hettttte. — queens. it's a part of our heritage. yeah. so- : it's a part of our heritage. “tilt?“ so it's people heritage. yeah. so it's people thtmt— heritage. yeah. so it's people thtmtmee— heritage. yeah. so it's people think we've died— heritage. / so it's people think we've died out. / think we've died out. yeah. so the met— think we've died out. yeah. so the more places we can come to prove that we never died out, we've got youngsters coming up. yeah because, because some yeah yeah. because, because some teeth— yeah yeah. because, because some eemte-them,— yeah yeah. because, because some heehte-tmem the- yeah yeah. because, because some people-know, the scots,- “tilt?“ gin?“ because, because some peopcelebrate know, the scots, “tilt?“ gin?“ because, because some peopcelebrate saint n, the scots, “tilt?“ gin?“ because, because some peopcelebrate saint andrew'shts, they celebrate saint andrew's day, — they celebrate saint andrew's hty, ltttttet-e— they celebrate saint andrew's day, patrick's ireland day, st patrick's day in ireland t_e"9“5h- day, st patrick's day in ireland t_e"9“5h tte- , etcetera. the english are a httte— , etcetera. the english are a htttelmete— , etcetera. the english are a little more modest about it. little bit more modest about it. do little bit more modest about it. he yet— little bit more modest about it. he yet thtmt— little bit more modest about it. do you think there's something little bit more modest about it. dothat? ink there's something little bit more modest about it. dothat? / ere's something little bit more modest about it. dothat? / jtilc.t?c.€ttilielning little bit more modest about it. dothat? / i ng little bit more modest about it. dothat? “tilt?“ i i iti“ in that? yeah, because the irish do it better. i don't know. do they? so. no, no,— do it better. i don't know. do they? so. no, no, no.- t:0 c idon't know. 0 c’“ts;g7’ so. no, no, no. but i do, they? so. no, no, no. but i do, yeth— they? so. no, no, no. but i do, yeth. te— they? so. no, no, no. but i do, yeth. he he— they? so. no, no, no. but i do, yeah. to be honest,— they? so. no, no, no. but i do, yeah. to be honest, i- c’“ts;g7’ so. no, no, no. but i do, yeah. to be honest, i don't know why— yeah. to be honest, i don't know why he— yeah. to be honest, i don't know why he he— yeah. to be honest, i don't know why he me eme— yeah. to be honest, i don't know why is no one knows. why is everyone, everyone sort of has a httte— everyone, everyone sort of has a ttttte metm— everyone, everyone sort of has a ttttte th— everyone, everyone sort of has a little moan up about, you know, ettmt— little moan up about, you know, sttmt eeette-e— little moan up about, you know, saint george's day— little moan up about, you know, saint george's day being saint george's day not being eetehtttet— saint george's day not being celebrated throughout world. saint george's day not being celewe ted throughout world. saint george's day not being celewe ted ourhughout world. saint george's day not being celewe ted our best.it world. saint george's day not being celewe ted our best. yeah, world. saint george's day not being celewe ted our best. yeah, we're. but we do our best. yeah, we're hete.— but we do our best. yeah, we're hete. hte-te— but we do our best. yeah, we're hete. me-te going— but we do our best. yeah, we're here. we're going to have a few heete— here. we're going to have a few heete tttet— here. we're going to have a few beers later and— here. we're going to have a few beers later and we'll a few beers later and we'll sing a few of beers later and we'll sing a few et-eemte— beers later and we'll sing a few of-songs later- beers later and we'll sing a few of-songs later on,- beers later and we'll sing a few of songs later on, you of the old songs later on, you them. — of the old songs later on, you them. se— of the old songs later on, you know. so everyone,- of the old songs later on, you know. �*" know. so everyone, if everyone does a little bit, then it will be a lot more celebrated, wouldn't you said wouldn't it? yeah. and you said tettthy— wouldn't it? yeah. and you said tettthylttmmy— wouldn't it? yeah. and you said actually,-funny you- actually, it's funny you say celebrated _the| actually, it's funny you say- celebrated _the world celebrated throughout the world hettee— celebrated throughout the world because obviously they're celebrating— because obviously they're - celebrating-today. celebrating it as well today. heteem— moldova, belize, ethiopia.

yeah, indeed. yeah. we're not on our own, so perhaps we should get together. yeah, we should htte—t- get together. yeah, we should have i kind of have a live link up. i kind of thought of something like eurovision. wait. eurovision. yeah can't wait. hey, we'll have some national eemte— hey, we'll have some national eemte-th— hey, we'll have some national songs-all over- hey, we'll have some national songs all over europe. songs from all over europe. heth. — songs from all over europe. heth. thtm.— songs from all over europe. yeah. listen, thanks- songs from all over europe. yeah. listen, thanks for- yeah. listen, thanks for speaking to us, guys. really appreciate so appreciate it. there's so there's. the dragon over there's. there's the dragon over there. just quick there. if you just have a quick look let's speak to look over there, let's speak to the people that are in charge of training, how slay that training, to how slay that dragon. we can speak to sir dragon. we can now speak to sir lancelot bernard, laughs dragon. we can now speak to sir ltlot. lot bernard, laughs dragon. we can now speak to sir ltlot. thanksbernard, laughs dragon. we can now speak to sir ltlot. thanks fornard, laughs dragon. we can now speak to sir ltlot. thanks for speaking.aughs dragon. we can now speak to sir ltlot. thanks for speaking to ghs a lot. thanks for speaking to us. appreciate important day us. appreciate it. important day for very important day. for you. very important day. hee. — for you. very important day. hee. mete— for you. very important day. yes. we're-today- for you. very important day. yes. we're today with, uh, yes. we're here today with, uh, with our night school. brought some along teach with our night school. brought some some along teach with our night school. brought some some squire along teach with our night school. brought some some squire ships,] teach them some squire ships, some sword some heraldry. sword fighting, some heraldry. bernard, here is. is the ettttttm— bernard, here is. is the guardian dragon. i bernard, here is. is the- guardian-dragon. i am, guardian of the dragon. i am, hee— guardian of the dragon. i am, hee. t— guardian of the dragon. i am, hee. t me— guardian of the dragon. i am, yes. i come from _ guardian of the dragon. i am, yes. i come from a long line of etttem— yes. i come from a long line of etttem teeeete— yes. i come from a long line of dragon keepers. yeah, yeah, yeth. — dragon keepers. yeah, yeah, yeth. _te- dragon keepers. yeah, yeah, yeth. _te yett- dragon keepers. yeah, yeah,- yeah. _are your pupils yeah. and how are your pupils hehtttmt— yeah. and how are your pupils behaving today?— yeah. and how are your pupils behaving today? have been behaving today? have you been ttttmtmte— behaving today? have you been training?_been- training? well, they've been my— training? well, they've been tety—heth- training? well, they've been - tety—hethlmetm very courageous. yeah. i mean, theee—teee- very courageous. yeah. i mean, these—less about. these days we're less about ettytmt— these days we're less abouti slaying _ because slaying the dragons because thete—tety- slaying the dragons because there—very manyi slaying the dragons because. there _very many of there aren't that very many of them — there aren't that very many of them tyme— there aren't that very many of them anymore. so we're more thett— them anymore. so we're more thett hteeetttmt— them anymore. so we're more about preserving ones about preserving the ones that we about preserving the ones that me htte— about preserving the ones that me htte. ttme— about preserving the ones that we have. hang on— about preserving the ones that we have. hang on a second. so yee— we have. hang on a second. so ye tehtmt— we have. hang on a second. so you're telling me— we have. hang on a second. so you're telling me saint george's up you're telling me saint george's th tet— you're telling me saint george's th tet hteeetttmt— you're telling me saint george's up for preserving the dragon? aheetttety—

up for preserving the dragon? absolutely we're. absolutely yes. yeah, we're. hte-te— absolutely yes. yeah, we're. hette—sttmtl we're retelling the saint eeette-e— we're retelling the sainti eeette-e—tt we're retelling the saint- eeette-e—tt th george's story, bringing it up to george's story, bringing it up te—het- george's story, bringing it up te—het knowl george's story, bringing it upj te—het them, to modern speed. you know, ettttmt— to modern speed. you know, ettttmt ett— to modern speed. you know, cutting out some— to modern speed. you know, cutting out some of the some of the teee— cutting out some of the some of the less liked— cutting out some of the some of the less liked parts— cutting out some of the some of the less liked parts of it and tetttmt— the less liked parts of it and tetttmt the— the less liked parts of it and letting the kids— the less liked parts of it and letting the kids reimagine and metemee— letting the kids reimagine and modernise the— letting the kids reimagine and modernise the legend of saint eeette— modernise the legend of saint george whilst— modernise the legend of saint george whilst also giving them the ttte— george whilst also giving them the true facts— george whilst also giving them the true facts of— george whilst also giving them the true facts of saint george. ar.— the true facts of saint george. ah tttt— the true facts of saint george. ah, fair enough.— the true facts of saint george. ah, fair enough. and the laughs a ah, fair enough. and the laughs t tet. — ah, fair enough. and the laughs t tet. htte— ah, fair enough. and the laughs t tet. ttte yet— ah, fair enough. and the laughs a lot. have you got any good hetee— a lot. have you got any good retee th— a lot. have you got any good retee th yett— a lot. have you got any good jokes up your sleeve. um, yes i htte. — jokes up your sleeve. um, yes i htte. tt— jokes up your sleeve. um, yes i htte. tt teee— jokes up your sleeve. um, yes i have. it goes once— jokes up your sleeve. um, yes i have. it goes once .— jokes up your sleeve. um, yes i have. it goes once . once a king, have. it goes once. once a king, ttmtye— have. it goes once. once a king, ttmtye t— have. it goes once. once a king, ttmtye t king-— have. it goes once. once a king, always a king. but— have. it goes once. once a king, always a king. but once a mttht-e— always a king. but once a night's enough- always a king. but once a night's enough . oh, very good. night's enough. oh, very good. so night's enough. oh, very good. he tttthe— night's enough. oh, very good. he tttthe t— night's enough. oh, very good. so laughs a lot.— night's enough. oh, very good. so laughs a lot. i'll leave you to so laughs a lot. i'll leave you te ht.— so laughs a lot. i'll leave you te tt. thtmt— so laughs a lot. i'll leave you to it. thank you— so laughs a lot. i'll leave you to it. thank you very much for ehethmt— to it. thank you very much for ehetttmg te— to it. thank you very much for ehetttmg te te— to it. thank you very much for speaking to us, bernard. thank you— speaking to us, bernard. thank yet my— speaking to us, bernard. thank yet tety mtth.— speaking to us, bernard. thank you very much. loving the metettehe— you very much. loving the moustache as— you very much. loving the moustache as well. thank you my— moustache as well. thank you tety mtth.— moustache as well. thank you tety mtth-yet- moustache as well. thank you very much. you go. so very much. there you go. so thtt-e— very much. there you go. so thtt-e-yet— very much. there you go. so that's-youllittle- very much. there you go. so that's you little flavour that's give you a little flavour of that's give you a little flavour et—hete- that's give you a little flavour et—hete tml of what's happening here in ttttttttt— of what's happening here in ttttttttt-tt- of what's happening here in trafalgar-at the- of what's happening here in trafalgar at the moment. trafalgar square at the moment. amt— trafalgar square at the moment. amt-ety,— trafalgar square at the moment. amt-ety, they-te— and as i say, they're celebrating- and as i say, they're- celebrating-george's day celebrating saint george's day all celebrating saint george's day ttt ee— celebrating saint george's day all over-world. _ celebrating saint george's day all over world. and frankly, all over the world. and frankly, it's all over the world. and frankly, ttte-tet— all over the world. and frankly, ttte-tet sttmt- all over the world. and frankly, it's for saint george it's not rare for saint george or it's not rare for saint george et tmy— it's not rare for saint george et tmy et— it's not rare for saint george et tmy et the— it's not rare for saint george or any of the patron saint of a eetmtty— or any of the patron saint of a eetmtty met— or any of the patron saint of a eetmtty met te— or any of the patron saint of a country not to from the country not to come from the eetmtty— country not to come from the country itself. _ country not to come from the country itself. in— country not to come from the country itself. in fact, emily, thet— country itself. in fact, emily, thtt-tet— country itself. in fact, emily, thtt-tet yet.— country itself. in fact, emily, quick -for you. .of. quick quiz for you. bit of ttme—ethyl quick quiz for you. bit of- trivia,_only home trivia, which is the only home tttem— trivia, which is the only home nation whose— trivia, which is the only home nation whose patron saint tettthy— nation whose patron saint actually comes- nation whose patron saint actually comes from the country

, httee— actually comes from the country , httee .— actually comes from the country ,hhttee . teth— actually comes from the country , wales . yeah, you're the only , wales. yeah, you're the only heteem— , wales. yeah, you're the only heteem thtt-e— , wales. yeah, you're the only person that's got— , wales. yeah, you're the only person that's got it right tetty— person that's got it right today. quite— person that's got it right today. quite right, too. saint emmem— today. quite right, too. saint amttem amt— today. quite right, too. saint andrew and saint george from the htttte— andrew and saint george from the htttte ttet— andrew and saint george from the middle east and— andrew and saint george from the middle east and saint patrick thhttemtty— middle east and saint patrick thhttemtty ttem — middle east and saint patrick apparently from what is now ctmhttt.— apparently from what is now ctmhttt. se— apparently from what is now cumbria. so yes.— apparently from what is now cumbria. so yes. and david, the ethy— cumbria. so yes. and david, the emty-ettmt— cumbria. so yes. and david, the only-saint who's- cumbria. so yes. and david, the only saint who's actually only patron saint who's actually hem— only patron saint who's actually hem-et— only patron saint who's actually from .of-home- only patron saint who's actually from of home nations, from one of the home nations, thhttemtty— from one of the home nations, apparently normally how apparently that's normally how it apparently that's normally how tt—the— apparently that's normally how tt—the etttem- it is for most of the patron ettmte— it is for most of the patron saints-world. - it is for most of the patron saints-world. so- it is for most of the patron saints world. so i don't saints in the world. so i don't them— saints in the world. so i don't them-tet— saints in the world. so i don't know-lotlpeople- saints in the world. so i don't know lot people make saints in the world. so i don't- know-lotlpeople make a know why a lot of people make a big know why a lot of people make a hte-thett— know why a lot of people make a hte-thett the— know why a lot of people make a big about the patron saint big thing about the patron saint not big thing about the patron saint met eemtmt— big thing about the patron saint not coming from _ big thing about the patron saint not coming from the country. thtt-e— not coming from the country. thtt-e htetty— not coming from the country. that's pretty-the - not coming from the country. that's pretty the norm, that's pretty much the norm, to be that's pretty much the norm, to he—hte- that's pretty much the norm, to he—hte tel be honest. yes people like to seem .intelligent- be honest. yes people like to seem intelligent pat seem very intelligent and pat themeehee— seem very intelligent and pat themselves-back- seem very intelligent and pat themselves back for themselves on the back for etytmt— themselves on the back for etytmg thtt. — themselves on the back for saying that. ttsq themselves on the back for- saying that. thank you very much indeed. reporter paul indeed. national reporter paul hawkins from a rather wet, hawkins there from a rather wet, unfortunately in trafalgar square. are still square. but hey there are still people celebrating. square. but hey there are still peopwe're celebrating. square. but hey there are still peopwe're ctonjrating. square. but hey there are still peopwe're ctonjratintfrom now we're moving on away from saint george's day and away from diane ill judged diane abbott's ill judged remarks. the spark gone from remarks. is the spark gone from owning electric car? an owning an electric car? an investigation by news agency reuters has revealed that the cost insuring tesla cost of insuring a tesla britain's most popular electric car, has skyrocketed by 20% over the past year , meaning the new the past year, meaning the new average is £662 per year. the

price of petrol is coming down. the cost of electric motty is jumping. what should the government do with all their electric cars or their electric car policies that 2035 policy as well? joining me now is stuart masson, the editorial director of the car expert, and mike parry, broadcaster and journalist here in the studio . journalist here in the studio. right, stuart , are people right, stuart, are people turning off the electric car ? turning off the electric car? good afternoon, emily. it's fair to good afternoon, emily. it's fair te ety— good afternoon, emily. it's fair te ety ee— good afternoon, emily. it's fair to say over the— good afternoon, emily. it's fair to say over the last few months, 3 to say over the last few months, ete— to say over the last few months, ete e— to say over the last few months, ete e memthe— to say over the last few months, 3 to 6 months, sales of new eteettte— 3 to 6 months, sales of new electric cars— 3 to 6 months, sales of new electric cars have- 3 to 6 months, sales of new electric cars have been ettgmtttmt— electric cars have been ettemtttme. - electric cars have been stagnating . �*" electric cars have been stagnating. �*" electric cars have been stagnating . �*" electric cars have been- stagnating . so if we look at electric cars have been— stagnating . so if we look at the stagnating. so if we look at the first three months of this year, the market share for new electric cars is exactly the same as it was 12 months ago. it's been steadily growing htettete— it's been steadily growing htettete te— it's been steadily growing previous to that, but it has now etttmttet. — previous to that, but it has now stagnated. we've— previous to that, but it has now stagnated. we've got a 2030 tetthme— stagnated. we've got a 2030 deadline for— stagnated. we've got a 2030 deadline for the— stagnated. we've got a 2030 deadline for the end of new hettet— deadline for the end of new hettet tht— deadline for the end of new petrol and diesel car sales. so mhtt— petrol and diesel car sales. so mhtt me— petrol and diesel car sales. so mhtt we meet— petrol and diesel car sales. so what we need to— petrol and diesel car sales. so what we need to be seeing is it etetthy— what we need to be seeing is it steadily increasing— what we need to be seeing is it steadily increasing and tttthmtmt— steadily increasing and flatlining is— steadily increasing and flatlining is almost going backwards— flatlining is almost going backwards at— flatlining is almost going backwards at the moment. so we do backwards at the moment. so we the teet— backwards at the moment. so we the teeth te— backwards at the moment. so we the teeth te pick_ backwards at the moment. so we do need to pick up— backwards at the moment. so we do need to pick up the pace as

mike yeah. do you understand why heehte— mike yeah. do you understand why heehte mteht— mike yeah. do you understand why heehte mteht he— it: “tilt?“ do you understand why people might be turning away on the ett— people might be turning away on the old electric— people might be turning away on the old electric vehicle? well i thtmt— the old electric vehicle? well i thtmt ttte— the old electric vehicle? well i think it's because— the old electric vehicle? well i think it's because they're ttmthy— think it's because they're finally waking- think it's because they're finally waking up to the fact thtt— finally waking up to the fact thtt the— finally waking up to the fact that the electric— finally waking up to the fact that the electric car policy, you— that the electric car policy, yet them — that the electric car policy, you know, we've- that the electric car policy, you know, we've got this mad tteh— you know, we've got this mad tteh tet— you know, we've got this mad tteh tet met— you know, we've got this mad rush for net zero. _ you know, we've got this mad rush for net zero. 0th : rush for net zero. everybody wants to polish the halo and say, get an electric car say, i'll get an electric car because that'll help save the world. . and people are world. it won't. and people are now to the madness of now waking up to the madness of electric cars. they're inefficient they go slower inefficient and they go slower inefficient and they go slower in last as in the cold and don't last as long cold weather. the long in cold weather. the batteries are mined in africa and children to go down and children have to go down mines cobalt to make mines to get the cobalt to make the batteries that you can't charge them. if i've got to figure here, look, if1 in figure here, look, if 1 in 3 cars became electric by 2030, that's the deadline date, which, by the way , even the europeans by the way, even the europeans have got a more realistic deadline, date of 2035. but we've got 2030. if one third of the of cars in this country are electric , by 2030, we will have electric, by 2030, we will have to have built 400,000 charging points across this country because we've got hardly any at

the moment. and that would cost £30 billion and that would be passed back onto the motorists . passed back onto the motorists. the electric cars don't work on any level whatsoever . they're any level whatsoever. they're even so heavy that local authorities in this country are now seriously having to engineer and test multi—storey car parks because if they were full of electric cars , which generally electric cars, which generally speaking can weigh up to twice an ordinary car, the car parks would collapse . and it's a mad would collapse. and it's a mad policy . you can't change, you policy. you can't change, you can't charge them. i've got a i've got a petrol station near me, right. and i go in there and i put petrol in the mercedes and all that, but they've got half a dozen bays for electric charging and they hardly ever work . but and they hardly ever work. but you know people so well i mean you know people so well i mean you raise, you raise a few points there. stuart infrastructure - stuart infrastructure clearly not teehtmt— infrastructure clearly not teehtme th— infrastructure clearly not keeping ”pt is- infrastructure clearly not keeping up, is it. infrastructure clearly not keeping up, is it . keeping up, is it. look out of ett— keeping up, is it. look out of ett et— keeping up, is it. look out of out of all that that ranting. the one thing i agree with mike

on the one thing i agree with mike em te— the one thing i agree with mike em te ttte— the one thing i agree with mike em he he met— the one thing i agree with mike on is it's not ranting, it's ttet.— on is it's not ranting, it's ttet. httt— on is it's not ranting, it's fact. half a— on is it's not ranting, it's fact. half a million or more. in ttet,— fact. half a million or more. in fact, millions— fact. half a million or more. in fact, millions of— fact. half a million or more. in fact, millions of new charging hetmte — fact, millions of new charging eemte. amt— fact, millions of new charging points. and that's a combination of points. and that's a combination et hthhe— points. and that's a combination of public charging— points. and that's a combination of public charging points, but thee— of public charging points, but also more home— of public charging points, but also more home charging points hettee— also more home charging points hettee tt— also more home charging points hettee tt te— also more home charging points because it is happening. the hette— because it is happening. the mettt te— because it is happening. the world is moving— because it is happening. the world is moving electric. this is world is moving electric. this te met— world is moving electric. this he met t— world is moving electric. this te met t tt— world is moving electric. this is not a uk project. this is not a is not a uk project. this is not t tttehetm— is not a uk project. this is not t tttehetm et— is not a uk project. this is not a european or an— is not a uk project. this is not a european or an eu project. the— a european or an eu project. thte te— a european or an eu project. thte te t— a european or an eu project. this is a global— a european or an eu project. this is a global direction. we them. — this is a global direction. we them. setty— this is a global direction. we know. sorry to _ this is a global direction. we know. sorry to interrupt you, but can i just ask how do we know that electric vehicles are the future of motoring? it seems that a lot of money is being put behind them. we have a lot of policy pushing us in that direction. what if come 2030, there's actually a much better way for vehicles to be driven and we put all of this money into pushing electric vehicles and then we find out actually they're not the best bet. that's absolutely correct . that will absolutely correct. that will hthhem. — absolutely correct. that will hthhem. amt — absolutely correct. that will happen. and that— ctscg ii that will happen. and that happens in etety— happen. and that happens in etety tmttetty— happen. and that happens in every industry in the world. we htte— every industry in the world. we htte t— every industry in the world. we htte t hettet— every industry in the world. we have a better step— every industry in the world. we have a better step that we move to have a better step that we move te tht— have a better step that we move te the them— have a better step that we move to and then down,— have a better step that we move to and then down, you know, in tmethet— to and then down, you know, in another decade,— to and then down, you know, in another decade, another two teettee— another decade, another two decades, there _ another decade, another two decades, there will be better etehe— decades, there will be better etehe-me-h— decades, there will be better steps-we'll move - decades, there will be better

steps we'll move towards it. steps and we'll move towards it. htte— steps and we'll move towards it. mte—hymetemi mike, just mentioned hydrogen, hyttetem— mike, just mentioned hydrogen, hytteeem-eehe— mike, just mentioned hydrogen, hydrogen cells have been hydrogen fuel cells have been the mute— hydrogen fuel cells have been the future for— hydrogen fuel cells have been the future for 50— hydrogen fuel cells have been the future for 50 years and they-te— the future for 50 years and they-te-the — the future for 50 years and they're the future. and they're still the future. and they— they're still the future. and they-ethy- they're still the future. and they really good they will have really good tmhtet— they will have really good tmhtet tm— they will have really good impact in heavy vehicles, trucks tht— impact in heavy vehicles, trucks tht-tttet. — impact in heavy vehicles, trucks and-first. and— impact in heavy vehicles, trucks and-first. and they- impact in heavy vehicles, trucks and first. and they then and buses first. and they then may— and buses first. and they then mty me— and buses first. and they then may move their— and buses first. and they then may move their way into hteeemeet— may move their way into passenger cars. but we know that the text— passenger cars. but we know that the text etee— passenger cars. but we know that the next step for— passenger cars. but we know that the next step for family car tttmehett— the next step for family car transport will— the next step for family car transport will be battery eteettte— transport will be battery electric vehicles and then down the the— electric vehicles and then down the line there— electric vehicles and then down the line there will— electric vehicles and then down the line there will be something etee.— the line there will be something etee. hhhethet— the line there will be something else. whether that's better htttety— else. whether that's better battery, electric vehicles or a eyetem — battery, electric vehicles or a eyetem ,— battery, electric vehicles or a new system , it— battery, electric vehicles or a new system , it will happen. it's new system, it will happen. it's heet— new system, it will happen. it's heem hthhemtme— new system, it will happen. it's been happening for generations across every aspect of human endeavour . yeah,- across every aspect of human endeavour . “bit?" across every aspect of human- endeavour . yeah-stuart, can endeavour. yeah, but stuart, can i you this? where is the i ask you this? where is the power come from? we've power going to come from? we've closed down about seven nuclear power stations this country power stations in this country in ten years. we in the last ten years. we haven't built hinckley c or haven't yet built hinckley c or sizewell are going to sizewell c, which are going to provide us with loads of energy for nuclear clean energy . they for nuclear clean energy. they won't be built until the mid 30, probably . where is all the power probably. where is all the power coming from in two of the last three winters? the national grid has out warnings you has put out warnings that you may have to expect blackouts because in the winter we simply

haven't got enough power in this country. we don't have secure energy. renewables can in no way replace the energy we've lost from those nuclear power stations that have closed down and all the coal fired power stations we've closed down. we simply don't have the power. stuart, it's a it's a mad scheme. stuart that's not a thtt-e— scheme. stuart that's not a thtt-e met— scheme. stuart that's not a thtt-e met t— scheme. stuart that's not a that's not a bad— i stuart that's not a that's not a bad point there, is it that's not a bad point there, is tt tethy— that's not a bad point there, is t tethylhttmt— that's not a bad point there, is it really-bring up,- that's not a bad point there, is it really bring up, do we it really to bring up, do we tettthy— it really to bring up, do we actually have— it really to bring up, do we actually have enough electricity 7 actually have enough electricity e the— actually have enough electricity e the teeth— actually have enough electricity e the teeth et— actually have enough electricity ? the people on the- actually have enough electricity ? the people on the national grid say there is there will be local issues, but the majority of charging will be taking place for cars in non—peak times and the grid is quite smart charging units are quite smart to be able to help people charge when electricity is cheapest because it is most plentiful, particularly for home charging. yes, there are issues that need to be overcome. this is the biggest transition for the automotive industry in since the automotive industry in since the automotive industry in since the automotive industry started 100 years it affects car years ago. and it affects car manufacturers. affects manufacturers. it affects customers , it affects customers, it affects governments. and it will governments. but and it will bnng governments. but and it will bring problems and pain along

the way. you might just work through run away from through it, not run away from it. sorry to interrupt, it. yeah. sorry to interrupt, but mike, just to finish , are but mike, just to finish, are you being a bit of a bit of a luddhe? you being a bit of a bit of a luddite? this is the future. our ette-hte— luddite? this is the future. our cars-like batteries.- ct:t: cts7’ this is the future. our cars could like batteries. ct:t: cts7’ this is the future. our cars could act.ike batteries. cat: cts7’ this is the future. our cars could act like 3atteries. cat: cts7’ this is the future. our cars could act like storage .. they could act like storage htttettee— they could act like storage batteries for— they could act like storage batteries for network. not batteries for the network. not at batteries for the network. not tt ttt. — batteries for the network. not tt ttt. ee— batteries for the network. not at all. go back— batteries for the network. not at all. go back and forth. not at all. go back and forth. not tt ttt. — at all. go back and forth. not tt ttt. trying— at all. go back and forth. not at all. trying to— at all. go back and forth. not at all. it “t; at all. go back and forth. not at all. “t; at all. trying to make out that we'll all up in the middle we'll all get up in the middle of night and charge our of the night and charge our cars. do that if cars. you can't do that if you're mid—journey. we know you're in mid—journey. we know that there's a very limited range batteries. we know range with batteries. we know they as efficiently they don't work as efficiently in cold and it's a mad, you in the cold and it's a mad, you know, policy, you know, polish my halo policy, you know, polish my halo policy, you know, let's save know, green energy, let's save the world. only 1% of emissions in the world that are dangerous to the climate come from the uk. and of that 1, only 7% are car emissions. well there you go. there you go. thank you very mtth— there you go. thank you very much indeed.— there you go. thank you very much indeed. mike parry, broadcaster— much indeed. mike parry, broadcaster and journalist, and sttttt— broadcaster and journalist, and sttttt hteem— broadcaster and journalist, and stuart mason, editorial director of stuart mason, editorial director et the— stuart mason, editorial director et the-eteem. — stuart mason, editorial director of the expert. thank you of the car expert. thank you my— of the car expert. thank you tety mtth— of the car expert. thank you very much indeed. let us know let very much indeed. let us know tet me— very much indeed. let us know tet me them— very much indeed. let us know let me know what— very much indeed. let us know let me know what you think at heme.— let me know what you think at home-watching- home. you're watching and hetemtmt— home. you're watching and listening-news- home. you're watching and listening-news with listening to gb news sunday with me, listening to gb news sunday with mee—hte tet- listening to gb news sunday with me,_we've got lotsi me, emily carver. we've got lots

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show. but first, let's get the news headlines— show. but first, let's get the news headlines with arron atmettemt— news headlines with arron mmemte-.- news headlines with arron atmettemt. - news headlines with arron armstrong . news headlines with arron- armstrong-. thanks, emily. armstrong erg. thanks, emily. good afternoon to you. it is 2:00. i'm erin armstrong in the gb newsroom, the prime minister has confirmed british diplomats and their families have been evacuated from sudan amid escalating violence in the country . rishi sunak says uk country. rishi sunak says uk armed forces completed a complex mission in the capital khartoum , alongside other allies. he hundreds of people have died in a violent conflict between the sudanese army and a rival paramilitary group . speaking in paramilitary group. speaking in the last few minutes, the foreign secretary, james cleverly, the government is cleverly, says the government is continuing to ensure the safety of british nationals who are still in the country . we have still in the country. we have taken the decision- still in the country. we have taken the decision to- taken the decision to temporarily- taken the decision to temporarily close the embassy tht— temporarily close the embassy tmt te— temporarily close the embassy and to relocate— temporarily close the embassy and to relocate our embassy etttt— and to relocate our embassy etttt tt— and to relocate our embassy staff if that— and to relocate our embassy staff if that gives us a the heet— staff if that gives us a the best opportunity to project our tthtemttte— best opportunity to project our diplomatic support back into steth— diplomatic support back into stttm . — diplomatic support back into stttm . htt— diplomatic support back into sudan. but we— diplomatic support back into sudan . “ diplomatic support back into- sudan . but we remain absolutely sudan. but we remain absolutely committed to support british

nationals in sudan. we will do so in close coordination with our international partners. but the best thing that we can do to support british nationals and indeed everyone in sudan is pushed the generals involved in this conflict to bring it to an end. and that will remain the priority of our diplomatic focus in the region . an alert will be in the region. an alert will be heard on smartphones across the uk in just under an hour's time . ulez see a message on your heme— . ulez see a message on your home screen along— ulez see a message on your home screen along with that eetmt— home screen along with that eetmt tht— home screen along with that sound and also— home screen along with that sound and also a vibration that may— sound and also a vibration that mty ttet— sound and also a vibration that mty ttet th— sound and also a vibration that mty ttet th te— sound and also a vibration that may last up to ten— sound and also a vibration that may last up to ten seconds. now the hthhe— may last up to ten seconds. now the hthhe te— may last up to ten seconds. now the public are being told simply emee— the public are being told simply emee tmty— the public are being told simply emee tmty the— the public are being told simply swipe away the message . however, swipe away the message. however, if swipe away the message. however, tt yee— swipe away the message. however, tt ye tm— swipe away the message. however, tt ye tm yett— swipe away the message. however, tt ye tm yett tt— swipe away the message. however, if you're in your car ,— swipe away the message. however, if you're in your car , the if you're in your car, the ttmee— if you're in your car, the the he— if you're in your car, the advice is follow normal traffic ttme. — advice is follow normal traffic ttme. se— advice is follow normal traffic laws. so don't— advice is follow normal traffic laws. so don't touch your phone. the — laws. so don't touch your phone. the government— laws. so don't touch your phone. the government testing this new etem— the government testing this new te— the government testing this new te mtm— the government testing this new siren to warn people about life thtettemtmt— siren to warn people about life threatening situations like thee— threatening situations like thee-et- threatening situations like fires,-or terror. fires, flooding or terror ttttete— fires, flooding or terror attacks. the- fires, flooding or terror attacks. the deputy prime htmtetet— attacks. the deputy prime minister, oliver dowden, says it eette— minister, oliver dowden, says it eettt te— minister, oliver dowden, says it could save people's lives . c could save people's lives. it's the— could save people's lives. it's the eeet— could save people's lives. it's the case that— could save people's lives. it's the case that this— could save people's lives. it's the case that this has been developed with the national cyber security centre , which

cyber security centre, which forms part of gchq . there will forms part of gchq. there will be a very strict— cc tilt there will be a very strict procedures in httee— be a very strict procedures in the tet— be a very strict procedures in the tet tte— be a very strict procedures in place for its authorisation and it place for its authorisation and tt mht— place for its authorisation and tt mhtt ethy— place for its authorisation and it will only be— place for its authorisation and it will only be used in a ettttttem— it will only be used in a situation where your viewers the— situation where your viewers ttte — situation where your viewers ttte tm— situation where your viewers live are in danger. i'm determined- live are in danger. i'm determined that there is a very htth— determined that there is a very htth htt— determined that there is a very high htt tet— determined that there is a very high bar for the— determined that there is a very high bar for the usage of this. httmt— high bar for the usage of this. diana abbott's— high bar for the usage of this. diana abbott's been suspended as a diana abbott's been suspended as t tthett— diana abbott's been suspended as t tthett hte— diana abbott's been suspended as a labour mp, pending an investigation— a labour mp, pending an investigation for saying jewish heehte— investigation for saying jewish heehte te— investigation for saying jewish heehte met— investigation for saying jewish people are not subjected to m— people are not subjected to racism. in a— people are not subjected to racism. “ people are not subjected to- racism. in a comment article for the observer newspaper, the former shadow health secretary said that jewish people were subjected to prejudice like irish or red headed people , but irish or red headed people, but they did not experience racism . they did not experience racism. the jewish labour mp dame margaret hodge says diane abbott's letter is deeply offensive and deeply depressing. mrs. abbott has since withdrawn the remarks . she's apologised the remarks. she's apologised for any offence caused , but the for any offence caused, but the labour party have condemned the comments as deeply offensive and wrong domes . secretary says it's wrong domes. secretary says it's crucial the government has the power to deport migrants without

being blocked by the european court of human rights, wrote in the sunday telegraph. suella braverman for to be braverman said for britain to be truly sovereign , it to be truly sovereign, it needs to be able decide who enters our able to decide who enters our territory. comes after 11 territory. this comes after 11 small boats carrying nearly 500 people crossed the english channel yesterday . lib dem channel yesterday. lib dem leader sir ed davey says the government is not doing enough to tackle the issue. the backlog of asylum applications that have not been processed is 160,000. that's the problem and this does methtmt— that's the problem and this does methtmt te— that's the problem and this does nothing to solve— that's the problem and this does nothing to solve that. liberal hemeettte— nothing to solve that. liberal democrats want— nothing to solve that. liberal democrats want this problem eettem— democrats want this problem eettet. htt— democrats want this problem solved, but the _ democrats want this problem solved, but the government is ttet— solved, but the government is het being— solved, but the government is just being chaos— solved, but the government is just being chaos and can't even do just being chaos and can't even he the— just being chaos and can't even he the htetee— just being chaos and can't even do the basics right— just being chaos and can't even do the basics right . sir? mo do the basics right. sir? mo tttth-e— do the basics right. sir? mo farah's finished— do the basics right. sir? mo farah's finished ninth in his thtt— farah's finished ninth in his final london— farah's finished ninth in his final london marathon with a ttme— final london marathon with a ttme et— final london marathon with a ttme et the— final london marathon with a time of two hours and ten mtmttee— time of two hours and ten mtmttee. — time of two hours and ten minutes. the— time of two hours and ten minutes. i c“0c.g “ time of two hours and ten minutes. i c“0c.3 “ time of two hours and ten minutes. 3 “ minutes. the race, though, is still going. competitors are braving the bad weather, the rain making their way around the caphal rain making their way around the capital. it is set to be the largest race ever, with at least 45,000 people taking part. and the hope is that around £60 million will be raised for charity . the scottish government

charity. the scottish government spent more than £300,000 on tiktok before banning it because of security concerns . is their of security concerns. is their decision followed a similar one by the uk to ban the app from government devices over concerns that sensitive data could be accessed by the chinese state, a claim that china has dismissed out more than £338,000 was spent on marketing campaigns by the scottish government in just over three years, from 2022. new pictures of prince louis have been published as he celebrates his fifth birthday today, he's been photographed being pushed around in a wheelbarrow by his mother, louis is expected to accompany his siblings in the procession from westminster abbey during the king's coronation next month . and his coronation next month. and his dad, the prince of wales , has dad, the prince of wales, has congratulated wrexham football club after getting promoted back into the football league after a 15 year absence. the hollywood actors ryan reynolds and rob mcelhenney, who owned the club, were in the crowd. they saw

their team were in the crowd. they saw theirteam beat were in the crowd. they saw their team beat borehamwood 3—1. prince william says he's looking forward to an exciting future and the side are doing wales proud . this is gb news has more proud. this is gb news has more on several of our stories coming up in just a moment's time with . emily yes, so . tmty— . yes, so breaking news . emily yes, so breaking news labour mp diane . yes, so breaking news labour mp ettte-hte— - yes, so breaking news labour mp httme-hte teet— - yes, so breaking news labour mp diane _has lost the _ . yes, so breaking news labour mp diane-has lost the whip- diane abbott has lost the whip eemmmt— diane abbott has lost the whip pending investigation. this pending an investigation. this eemeelthe— pending an investigation. this comes the labour published comes as the labour mp published a comes as the labour mp published t theee— comes as the labour mp published t the th— comes as the labour mp published thteee h the— comes as the labour mp published a piece in the observer. she was tteeteetmt— a piece in the observer. she was discussing racism _ a piece in the observer. she was discussing racism prejudice discussing racism and prejudice in discussing racism and prejudice h the— discussing racism and prejudice h the ehett— discussing racism and prejudice in the short article, abbott eteeeetet— in the short article, abbott suggested that— in the short article, abbott suggested that jewish people do not suggested that jewish people do met ttte— suggested that jewish people do not face racism. _ suggested that jewish people do not face racism. they face htertttee — not face racism. they face prejudice that— not face racism. they face prejudice that redheads face s tee. — prejudice that redheads face s tee. stttmte— prejudice that redheads face s too. strange comparison there. shettty— too. strange comparison there. shortly afterwards, the former ehttem— shortly afterwards, the former shadow home— shortly afterwards, the former shadow home secretary released an shadow home secretary released tm theteey— shadow home secretary released tm theteey em— shadow home secretary released an apology on twitter. she said ehe— an apology on twitter. she said ehe mtmte— an apology on twitter. she said ehe mtmte te— an apology on twitter. she said she wants to withdraw and disassociate _ she wants to withdraw and disassociate herself from those comments despite diane abbott teettmt— comments despite diane abbott teettmt thte— comments despite diane abbott issuing this apology . a labour issuing this apology. a labour eheteeheteem—

issuing this apology. a labour spokesperson today came out and ettt— spokesperson today came out and ettt the— spokesperson today came out and said the labour— spokesperson today came out and said the labour party completely condemns these— said the labour party completely condemns these comments, which are condemns these comments, which teehty— condemns these comments, which are deeply offensive and wrong. the— are deeply offensive and wrong. the ehtet— are deeply offensive and wrong. the chief whip— are deeply offensive and wrong. the chief whip has suspended the tthett— the chief whip has suspended the tthett-ttem — the chief whip has suspended the labour-from diane- the chief whip has suspended the labour from diane abbott, labour whip from diane abbott, eemmmt— labour whip from diane abbott, pending tm— labour whip from diane abbott, pending an investigation. joining— pending an investigation. remtme-te— pending an investigation. joining to discuss this gb joining me to discuss this gb heme— joining me to discuss this gb heme tehtty— joining me to discuss this gb news deputy political editor tom ttmeet— news deputy political editor tom ttmeet .— news deputy political editor tom ttmeet . tem— news deputy political editor tom harwood . tom, does there seem to harwood. tom, does there seem to be harwood. tom, does there seem to he t— harwood. tom, does there seem to be a consensus in_ harwood. tom, does there seem to be a consensus in the labour party— be a consensus in the labour tttty thtt— be a consensus in the labour httty thtt the— be a consensus in the labour party that the right decision hte— party that the right decision hte heem— party that the right decision has been made— party that the right decision has been made in withdrawing thtt— has been made in withdrawing thtt whip_ has been made in withdrawing thtt the e — has been made in withdrawing that whip ? yes,— has been made in withdrawing that whip ? “tilt? c“tsits; has been made in withdrawing that whip ? “tilt? c“tsits : that whip? yes, there does seem to be a consensus around this idea , julia, because ultimately idea, julia, because ultimately it was an extraordinary letter to have written to the observer newspaper published this morning and understandably a very quick furore whipped up online because this is the most peculiar sheer sort of unprovoked intervention on an issue that did not really seem to be at the forefront of many people's minds. diane abbott was responding to an article earlier in the guardian newspaper earlier in the week, which was talking about the racism experienced by black people and other groups to which she responded jewish people

she responded that jewish people andindeed she responded that jewish people and indeed and roma and other people with white skin do not experience racism. she compared the prejudice that jewish people experience acas to the prejudice that ginger people experience in the most extraordinary. let after. of course, after this kick back online. diane abbott released an apology . she released an apology. she withdrew those remarks and said that a draft letter had been sent into the observer newspaper in error. however, it seems that not many people believed this excuse. the board of deputies of british jews issued a statement following diane abbott's apology , saying that this was not a believer double excuse, that it stretched the realms of credulity, that this was a draft that was sent in by mistake. what else? what else was she trying to say? this draft ? well, trying to say? this draft? well, this letter was only about one issue, and that was that diane abbott didn't think that jewish people were experiencing racism in the united kingdom. so after the board of deputies of british

jews released their statement saying that diane abbott's apology did not cut the mustard , that the whip should be suspended and an investigation should begin . the whips office should begin. the whips office of the labour party did just that. we received a statement from the labour leadership just around two hours ago saying that diane abbott's the whip has been withdrawn from diane abbott . she withdrawn from diane abbott. she is no longer a labour mp , is no longer a labour mp, although she is still a labour party member and an investigation is pending. thank you very much indeed. tom harwood their deputy- i“ 3: tom harwood their deputy political etttet— harwood their deputy political etttet. tthmt— harwood their deputy political editor, taking us— harwood their deputy political editor, taking us through tetty-e— editor, taking us through today's events. thank you very mtth— today's events. thank you very mtth heteem— today's events. thank you very much indeed. now joining me in the etttte— much indeed. now joining me in the etttte te— much indeed. now joining me in the studio to discuss this tttthet— the studio to discuss this tttthet te— the studio to discuss this further to get— the studio to discuss this further to get their reaction is tetmet— further to get their reaction is former labour— further to get their reaction is former labour adviser and writer setttett— former labour adviser and writer scarlett mccgwire _ former labour adviser and writer scarlett mccgwire and the chair of scarlett mccgwire and the chair et-htttteh— scarlett mccgwire and the chair of british political action of the british political action cemetemee— of the british political action conference, henry boulton. htttett— conference, henry boulton. scarlett, you've— conference, henry boulton. scarlett, you've been adviser for scarlett, you've been adviser tet tthett— scarlett, you've been adviser tet tthett .— scarlett, you've been adviser for labour . what— scarlett, you've been adviser for labour . what do you make of for labour. what do you make of the— for labour. what do you make of thte tttht— for labour. what do you make of this right decision— for labour. what do you make of this right decision by keir stttmet— this right decision by keir starmer and— this right decision by keir starmer and the labour party to the— starmer and the labour party to remove the whip? _ starmer and the labour party to remove the whip? : c remove the whip? sadly, it was absolutely the right decision. i mean, is really sad. the

mean, it is really sad. the jewish labour movement, which which also agrees with the decision, said quite rightly that diane has been fighting racism all her life. she's fought it, she's fought it in the commons. i mean, you know, the commons. i mean, you know, the racism she experienced as a child when i mean, she was told that she should go and work for woolworths rather than go for cambridge. i mean, was terrible . and to do something like this was was just awful. i do have to say that her apology for once from a politician was a proper apology rather than if i caused offence. i mean, she does realise that what she's done is terrible. is there a broader htehtem.— terrible. is there a broader problem, scarlett,- is there a broader problem, scarlett, before i come to problem, scarlett, before i come te hemty— problem, scarlett, before i come te hemty. thtt— problem, scarlett, before i come to henry, that some people on the hett— to henry, that some people on the left don't— to henry, that some people on the left don't view anti—semitism as real racism the left don't view— anti—semitism as real racism , anti—semitism as real racism, um.— anti—semitism as real racism, hm. t— anti—semitism as real racism, hm. t metm— anti—semitism as real racism, hm. t t— anti—semitism as real racism, um, i mean, i think we have to remember that— um, i mean, i think we have to remember that diane abbott was ttthmt— remember that diane abbott was ttthmt met— remember that diane abbott was tttttme met ttet— remember that diane abbott was talking not just about jews, she ttthmt— talking not just about jews, she was talking about— talking not just about jews, she was talking about irish and she ttthmt— was talking about irish and she was talking about— was talking about irish and she was talking about travellers . was talking about travellers. amt— was talking about travellers. amt tt— was talking about travellers. amt tt mte— was talking about travellers. and it was and— was talking about travellers. and it was and then she threw in tethette— and it was and then she threw in tethette. amt— and it was and then she threw in redheads. and icah— and it was and then she threw in redheads. and can say, as redheads. and i can say, as i htte— redheads. and i can say, as i htte ettt— redheads. and i can say, as i have said before,— redheads. and i can say, as i have said before, that there is theetttety— have said before, that there is absolutely no _ have said before, that there is absolutely no comparison between the-ttte— absolutely no comparison between the-ttte tteet- absolutely no comparison between the-i've faced as-

the prejudice. i've faced as a emtet— the prejudice. i've faced as a ttmeet tmt— the prejudice. i've faced as a ginger and that— the prejudice. i've faced as a ginger and that which jews have ethettemeet — ginger and that which jews have experienced jews— ginger and that which jews have experienced jews and irish and ttttehete— experienced jews and irish and ttttehete. — experienced jews and irish and ttttehete. t— experienced jews and irish and travellers. i mean,- experienced jews and irish and travellers. “ c “ travellers. i mean, it was in response to an article that actually talked about all of them, right? and it's and it's quite important that was all quite important that it was all of that we don't say , oh of them that we don't say, oh god, how can you say this about jews? but it's all right saying it about and travellers. it about irish and travellers. i mean, actually said it about mean, actually she said it about all three. it is a mistake. i mean, you know , it was, i mean mean, you know, it was, i mean for her not to understand that actually there is racism against people who are not in her own constituency. this people who are not in her own constituency . this is what's constituency. this is what's eheehmt. — constituency. this is what's eheehmt. tt— constituency. this is what's shocking. it henry- i cc.ts“ti.g this is what's shocking. it henry this is a etett— shocking. it henry this is a etett ett— shocking. it henry this is a clear cut case— shocking. it henry this is a clear cut case of- shocking. it henry this is a clear cut case of race baiting. ettety— clear cut case of race baiting. sttety — clear cut case of race baiting. sttety mett.— clear cut case of race baiting. surely well, whether- clear cut case of race baiting. surely well, whether she deliberately sort of engaged in this, as in a provocative manner, i doubt it's quite provocative. it is provocative . provocative. it is provocative. i think it's stupid. i think it is i think it's stupid. i think it h meet. — i think it's stupid. i think it is inept. i think it is even if one's kind, she's ignorant of the reality and a reality that 99% of the population is aware

of. and i think, you 99% of the population is aware of . and i think, you know, do of. and i think, you know, do amm— of. and i think, you know, do amm athett— of. and i think, you know, do ann arbour has— and i think, you know, do ann arbour has had a history of mthmt— ann arbour has had a history of mttme ethy— ann arbour has had a history of making silly gaffes. ann arbour has had a history of making silly gaffes . t3“c making silly gaffes. she might htte— making silly gaffes. she might have done great work in raising the profile of her constituency and her community. i don't take that away from her. i don't think she's a— that away from her. i don't think she's a bad- i don't think she's a bad person, but ehe— think she's a bad person, but ehe hte— think she's a bad person, but ehe hte t— think she's a bad person, but she has a history— think she's a bad person, but she has a history of making ttttee. — she has a history of making etttee. htt— she has a history of making gaffes. and what- she has a history of making gaffes. “: she has a history of making gaffes. “2 “ she has a history of making- gaffes. and what we have in the house of commons across all parties are a number of members of parliament, some of them high profile in their parties, who quite simply are, to my mind , quite simply are, to my mind, too inept to actually be there . too inept to actually be there. the stupid remarks , leaks, the stupid remarks, leaks, indiscretions_ the stupid remarks, leaks, indiscretions ,— the stupid remarks, leaks, indiscretions , ones. “tsits indiscretions, ones. there's a mtete— indiscretions, ones. there's a whole range of things that actually do not indicate that we have got a population in the house of commons that are the best or the best. and there are mtmy— best or the best. and there are many reasons for— best or the best. and there are many reasons for that. - and there are many reasons for that. but this hte— many reasons for that. but this hte te— many reasons for that. but this hte te ehtmte— many reasons for that. but this has to change because otherwise, if has to change because otherwise, tt ttte— has to change because otherwise, tt tt-e httte— has to change because otherwise, if it's diane today,— has to change because otherwise, if it's diane today, it's going to if it's diane today, it's going te he— if it's diane today, it's going to be somebody— if it's diane today, it's going to be somebody else tomorrow and so to be somebody else tomorrow and ee-tmt— to be somebody else tomorrow and ee-tmt tt— to be somebody else tomorrow and ee-tmt tt eette— to be somebody else tomorrow and so-and it could be— to be somebody else tomorrow and so and it could be from so on, and it could be from tmethet— so on, and it could be from tmethet httty— so on, and it could be from another party and we do see it hem— another party and we do see it ttem th— another party and we do see it from all parties.— another party and we do see it from all parties. so you know, it from all parties. so you know, tt-etthtt— from all parties. so you know, tt-etthtt tmt— from all parties. so you know, it-stupid and it- from all parties. so you know, it stupid and it was inept. it was stupid and it was inept. it it was stupid and it was inept. tt-ttmettmt.— it was stupid and it was inept.

it-ignorant, it— it was stupid and it was inept. it-ignorant, it was- it was ignorant, it was provocative - it was ignorant, it was provocative .- it was ignorant, it was provocative . deliberately or provocative. deliberately or not: _ provocative. deliberately or met. me — provocative. deliberately or not, we don't— provocative. deliberately or not, we don't really know. but hte— not, we don't really know. but hte the— not, we don't really know. but has the labour— not, we don't really know. but has the labour party acted tthttty— has the labour party acted tthttty te— has the labour party acted rapidly to deal— has the labour party acted rapidly to deal with it? i think they— rapidly to deal with it? i think they htte— rapidly to deal with it? i think they htte tmt— rapidly to deal with it? i think they have and well done them for tethe— they have and well done them for tetmt tt. — they have and well done them for tetmt t. tt— they have and well done them for doing it. to write— they have and well done them for doing it. to write a— they have and well done them for doing it. to write a letter to a newspaper . our newspaper's newspaper. our newspaper's editor , which then gets editor, which then gets published . you are you very much published. you are you very much make a point. it's not something you do by accident is it? it's the sort of thing when someone's really riled up by something that they would i would that they would do. i would write letter to the editor if write a letter to the editor if i particularly was, you know , i particularly was, you know, offended or worked up about an issue or felt very strongly in one way or another. she clearly believes is that prejudice against jewish people should not be seen in in a similar way to that which black people experience. i mean, i think the letter was really about saying that people of colour. but i mean, she only talked- mean, she only talked about httet— mean, she only talked about httet heehte. — mean, she only talked about black people. so— mean, she only talked about black people. so one doesn't them— black people. so one doesn't them thett— black people. so one doesn't know about the _ black people. so one doesn't know about the rest that people of know about the rest that people et eeemt— know about the rest that people et eeemt te— know about the rest that people of colour are different from

mhtte— of colour are different from mhtte heete— of colour are different from white people. and i'm not sure you— white people. and i'm not sure yet tm— white people. and i'm not sure yet eth— white people. and i'm not sure you can call jewish people white heehte. — you can call jewish people white heehte. htt— you can call jewish people white people. but anyway,— you can call jewish people white people. tis“ you can call jewish people white people. is“ people. but anyway, you can all many travellers , but certainly many travellers, but certainly irish people . and she questioned irish people. and she questioned thett— irish people. and she questioned thett her-thee.— irish people. and she questioned their prejudice. i— irish people. and she questioned their prejudice. i mean- their prejudice. i mean ehttetety— their prejudice. i mean obviously if— their prejudice. i mean obviously if you look into the htetety— obviously if you look into the htetety et— obviously if you look into the htetety et tmy— obviously if you look into the history of any of— obviously if you look into the history of any of those , i mean history of any of those, i mean as history of any of those, i mean te mtmy— history of any of those, i mean as many as a proportion, tttmtty— as many as a proportion, tttmtty. te— as many as a proportion, frankly, as many roma went to the tte— frankly, as many roma went to the gas chambers— frankly, as many roma went to the gas chambers under hitler, as the gas chambers under hitler, te teme— the gas chambers under hitler, te teme ttt.— the gas chambers under hitler, as jews did, there— the gas chambers under hitler, as jews did, there is no tteettem— as jews did, there is no question that- as jews did, there is no question that all of these theettte— question that all of these heehte. th— question that all of these people, all experienced race. i ttte— people, all experienced race. i tt-e yett— people, all experienced race. i mean, it's your definition of teth— mean, it's your definition of tettt mtth— mean, it's your definition of dealt with war— mean, it's your definition of dealt with war crimes in which the temt— dealt with war crimes in which the roma community were the metme— the roma community were the victims lined— the roma community were the victims lined up— the roma community were the victims lined up against walls the— victims lined up against walls the ehet— victims lined up against walls and shot within— victims lined up against walls and shot within the last 25 yette— and shot within the last 25 yette tmt— and shot within the last 25 yette tmt ee— and shot within the last 25 years and so you know of course, the— years and so you know of course, thte te— years and so you know of course, thte he the— years and so you know of course, this is the reality— years and so you know of course, this is the reality now. i think you— this is the reality now. i think yet the— this is the reality now. i think yet .— this is the reality now. i think you raise , whether deliberately you raise, whether deliberately or not, emily, i don't know. but but there is i think and i'm going to say this, frankly, and i think we've got to address this if we want to solve divisions in our society. there is a tendency to do to towards

protecting the victims ization of coloured people . now, of of coloured people. now, of course, there is racism , people course, there is racism, people of colour, people of colour, sorry , of course there is sorry, of course there is a racism in this country. i think we as a nation have done made incredible inroads into addressing it. there's a long way still to go, so i'm not in any way suggesting that there is not racism out there . there is not racism out there. there is against all sorts of communities , but there is a tendency for some people to make political careers and to gain social status and maintain it through maintaining the division on a long lines of colour. maintaining the division on a long lines of colour . and i long lines of colour. and i think that is something that we thatis think that is something that we that is it is divisive and that's dangerous for society with you to an extent. i'm not sure. it's always— s“ i'm not sure. it's always conscious. ttte— sure. it's always conscious. he met— sure. it's always conscious. it's not always— sure. it's always conscious. it's not always conscious. setttet— it's not always conscious. scarlet just— it's not always conscious. scarlet just to _ it's not always conscious. scarlet just to finish the ttmtmt— scarlet just to finish the ttmtmt et— scarlet just to finish the timing of this- scarlet just to finish the timing of this is particularly , timing of this is particularly, wen,— timing of this is particularly, well, unfortunate . the home well, unfortunate. the home seetettty— well, unfortunate. the home seetettty tmty— well, unfortunate. the home secretary only last month

announced they were ramping up. the announced they were ramping up. the heme— announced they were ramping up. the home office— announced they were ramping up. the home office is— announced they were ramping up. the home office is ramping up eeetttty— the home office is ramping up security measures— the home office is ramping up security measures to protect remeh— security measures to protect jewish communities . security measures to protect jewish communities. is1 million jewish communities. is 1 million ttmttmt— jewish communities. is 1 million ttmttmt heeet— jewish communities. is 1 million funding boost new— jewish communities. is 1 million funding boost new dedicated hetee— funding boost new dedicated hettee ttet— funding boost new dedicated police task force— funding boost new dedicated police task force schools, eymteeetee— police task force schools, synagogues are often as well as remeh— synagogues are often as well as remeh heehte— synagogues are often as well as jewish people themselves are ettem— jewish people themselves are ettem tt— jewish people themselves are often at risk— jewish people themselves are often at risk from hate crime. the— often at risk from hate crime. the tmmt— often at risk from hate crime. the tmmt h— often at risk from hate crime. the timing is terrible- often at risk from hate crime. the timing is terrible because , the timing is terrible because, you know, labour thought they'd buned you know, labour thought they'd buried the anti—semitism and frankly, the people at the top of labour must have their head in their hands going, you know, this is what we needed, like a hole in the head and that's why they've acted so quickly . and they've acted so quickly. and they've acted so quickly. and they have said this is completely and utterly unacceptable. well there you go. thank you very much indeed. tetmet— thank you very much indeed. former labour— thank you very much indeed. former labour adviser and writer setttett— former labour adviser and writer scarlett mccgwire _ former labour adviser and writer scarlett mccgwire chair of scarlett mccgwire and chair of the htttteh— scarlett mccgwire and chair of the british political action conference _ the british political action conference ,— the british political action conference , henry boulton. thank conference, henry boulton. thank you conference, henry boulton. thank yet my— conference, henry boulton. thank yet tety mtth.— conference, henry boulton. thank yet tety mtth. se— conference, henry boulton. thank you very much. so let's now eeeth— you very much. so let's now speak-executive- you very much. so let's now speak executive editor of the speak to executive editor of the hem— speak to executive editor of the tetm-eettem- speak to executive editor of the henry-society, dr. - speak to executive editor of the henry society, dr. alan henry jackson society, dr. alan hemteze— henry jackson society, dr. alan hemteze mhe— henry jackson society, dr. alan mendoza, who is— henry jackson society, dr. alan mendoza, who is also jewish. ar...— mendoza, who is also jewish. thtm mhtt— mendoza, who is also jewish. thtm mhtt te— mendoza, who is also jewish. alan, what is your reaction ? alan, what is your reaction? wen,— alan, what is your reaction? wen, t— alan, what is your reaction? well, i think— alan, what is your reaction? well, i think the— alan, what is your reaction? well, i think the reaction is, as

well, i think the reaction is, te the— well, i think the reaction is, as the previous— well, i think the reaction is, as the previous guests have eteeeeteth— as the previous guests have etggeetet. ttte— as the previous guests have suggested, it's just a ridiculous— suggested, it's just a ridiculous statement for diane ahhett— ridiculous statement for diane ahhett te— ridiculous statement for diane abbott to have— ridiculous statement for diane abbott to have made, particularly- abbott to have made, particularly given her own htetety.— particularly given her own htetety. het— particularly given her own history, her noble history of ttghttmt— history, her noble history of fighting racism _ history, her noble history of fighting racism for her suddenly to fighting racism for her suddenly te mtte— fighting racism for her suddenly to make lcomment_ fighting racism for her suddenly to make comment of this to make a comment of this etthtttty— to make a comment of this etthtttty .— to make a comment of this stupidity , frankly, and it's stupidity, frankly, and it's ettemehe— stupidity, frankly, and it's offensive.iit's- stupidity, frankly, and it's offensive. c 3 stupidity, frankly, and it's offensive. 3 s“t2 offensive. it's wrong, and she needs to be sort of taken to task for it, which is i think, going to happen. but it is a ridiculous situation to have started in the first place. reflect a broader feeling among some people or some people on the left that anti semitism isn't a real racism . yes, isn't a real racism. yes, i think i think this is a reality. we saw this a lot under jeremy we saw this a lot underjeremy corbyn's rule and of course, diane abbott is a close ally of jeremy corbyn and essentially shares politics. basically shares his politics. basically there is a hierarchy of racism, some doesn't exist, some is minimal and some is maximal according to these people. and this would suggest that diane abbott buys into this idea that there is a hierarchy , there is there is a hierarchy, there is a sort of a sort of place for certain racism versus others, and it kind of divides the anti

racism community, doesn't it, when you start doing this, particularly when it's demonstrably not true. and the worst part of this,— demonstrably not true. and the worst part of this, i— demonstrably not true. and the worst part of this, i think- 2 and the worst part of this, i think you ttet— worst part of this, i think you rtet hetemtmt— worst part of this, i think you just listening to— worst part of this, i think you just listening to you a moment ago,— just listening to you a moment tee—ahhett- just listening to you a moment ago,_abbott has. ago, is that diane abbott has a ethettmtttt— ago, is that diane abbott has a substantial jewish population in her constituency _ substantial jewish population in her constituency . substantial jewish population in her constituency. substantial jewish population in her constituency . her constituency. she is fully aware that that that minority is being on a daily basis being attacked on a daily basis . there are stats out for that. people constituency do people in her constituency do get attacked on a regular basis. so for her to this is not a so for her to say this is not a racism issue is not simply wrong and but actually is and ignorant, but actually is a dereliction as dereliction of her duty as a constituency mp, let alone as a leading political figure in this country. yes, i was just ehetttmt— country. yes, i was just ehetttmg te— country. yes, i was just speaking to a- ti0c. yes, i was just speaking to a rabbi a little mhtte— speaking to a rabbi a little mhtte tte— speaking to a rabbi a little while ago and— speaking to a rabbi a little while ago and he was saying thtt.— while ago and he was saying thtt. wen,— while ago and he was saying that, well, he— while ago and he was saying that, well, he hopes that this is that, well, he hopes that this he etmhty— that, well, he hopes that this is simply ignorance rather than httetty— is simply ignorance rather than hteetty .— is simply ignorance rather than hteetty . mme— is simply ignorance rather than bigotry . arnie but i'll let bigotry. arnie but i'll let viewers decide what they think. but viewers decide what they think. htt hett— viewers decide what they think. but keir starmer— viewers decide what they think. but keir starmer do you think he ehettt— but keir starmer do you think he ehettt teeeht— but keir starmer do you think he should accept her— but keir starmer do you think he should accept her apology? she has should accept her apology? she hte ettt— should accept her apology? she hte ettt .— should accept her apology? she hte ettt . tmt— should accept her apology? she has said , and i— should accept her apology? she has said , and i am sorry , i take has said, and i am sorry, i take htet— has said, and i am sorry, i take htet the— has said, and i am sorry, i take back the remarks— has said, and i am sorry, i take back the remarks i— has said, and i am sorry, i take back the remarks i want to disassociate _ back the remarks i want to disassociate myself . i believe disassociate myself. i believe het— disassociate myself. i believe

het hette— disassociate myself. i believe her words are _ disassociate myself. i believe her words are are.— disassociate myself. i believe her words are are. do you think the— her words are are. do you think thte te— her words are are. do you think thte te t— her words are are. do you think thte te t tet— her words are are. do you think this is a for want— her words are are. do you think this is a for want of a better mett.— this is a for want of a better mett. t— this is a for want of a better word, a hanging— this is a for want of a better word, a hanging offence? well, i thtmt— word, a hanging offence? well, i thtmt tt— word, a hanging offence? well, i think it probably— word, a hanging offence? well, i think it probably is, because if, think it probably is, because he yet— think it probably is, because tt. yet them.— think it probably is, because if, you know, you had to have thet— if, you know, you had to have thee theet— if, you know, you had to have lived under a— if, you know, you had to have lived under a stone to have ttettet— lived under a stone to have avoided the— lived under a stone to have avoided the fight the labour tttty-e— avoided the fight the labour httty-e htt— avoided the fight the labour party's had over— avoided the fight the labour party's had over the last few yette— party's had over the last few years over anti—semitism, diane ahhett— years over anti—semitism, diane ahhett mettt — years over anti—semitism, diane abbott would have— years over anti—semitism, diane abbott would have been perfectly tmtte-mhete— abbott would have been perfectly aware _whole issue - abbott would have been perfectly aware whole issue and for aware of the whole issue and for her aware of the whole issue and for hetlhe— aware of the whole issue and for hetlhe etytmt— aware of the whole issue and for her be saying things like her to be saying things like the— her to be saying things like thte tttet— her to be saying things like this after say,— her to be saying things like this after say, two, three yee— this after say, two, three yette—et- this after say, two, three- years,_of starmer , years, if you like, of starmer, tttm.— years, if you like, of starmer, right, re—education the right, re—education on the ethr-eet— right, re—education on the ethreet-yet— right, re—education on the subject you there is a subject tells you there is a teehet— subject tells you there is a deeper problem at bay and tettthy— deeper problem at bay and actually the— deeper problem at bay and actually the labour party have not actually the labour party have met-the— actually the labour party have not-this issue - not expunged this issue which they— not expunged this issue which they htt— not expunged this issue which they htt heeet— not expunged this issue which they had hoped had gone. c they had hoped had gone. it ttet-t— they had hoped had gone. it htet-t tete— they had hoped had gone. it htet-t gone .— they had hoped had gone. it hasn't gone . clearly- they had hoped had gone. it hasn't gone . clearly diane hasn't gone. clearly diane abbott a leading figure in abbott is a leading figure in the labour party . it's not like the labour party. it's not like she's some random obscure local activist. she's been an mp for many years. she's been at the forefront of anti—racism activism . um, and i don't think activism. um, and i don't think activism. um, and i don't think a simple apology, given this has been line issue for so been a front line issue for so long, sufficient . and been a front line issue for so long, sufficient. and alan, long, is sufficient. and alan, just long, is sufficient. and alan, rtet tety— long, is sufficient. and alan, rtet tety tmty.— long, is sufficient. and alan, just very quickly, as- long, is sufficient. and alan, just very quickly, as a- 3 i and alan, just very quickly, as a jewish heteem— just very quickly, as a jewish heteem hee— just very quickly, as a jewish person, person yourself , are you person, person yourself, are you httt— person, person yourself, are you httt eemttmety— person, person yourself, are you httt genuinely hy— person, person yourself, are you hurt genuinely by this type of eemmemte— hurt genuinely by this type of comment? how— hurt genuinely by this type of comment? how do jewish people teet— comment? how do jewish people teet mhem— comment? how do jewish people teet them they— comment? how do jewish people

feel when they read something like feel when they read something ttte thtee— feel when they read something like this? well— feel when they read something like this? well i'm sorry to say thtt— like this? well i'm sorry to say that because— like this? well i'm sorry to say that because it's— like this? well i'm sorry to say that because it's become so common place. _ that because it's become so common place. cit” ti0c. common place. of course people are offended by it. it's sort of something that you look at and you go, why on earth would you say that, given the mountain of evidence? either way? but unfortunately, it tells you something. that people something. the fact that people like others face this like me and others face this sort of thing often that sort of thing so often that we've become, suppose, a bit we've become, i suppose, a bit jaded it. that's not to jaded by it. now, that's not to say going to call it say we're not going to call it out and that other people aren't going to call it and going to call it out. and i don't this is really don't think this is really a jewish situation either problem. this problem. if this is a british problem. if there people who are not there are people who are not recognising the facts the recognising the facts on the ground, that ground, which is that anti—semitism and has anti—semitism exists and has been growing over many years, and british are and that british people are being attacked on account of their religion or race or ethnicity arnie then that a ethnicity arnie then that is a problem this country a problem for this country as a whole. it is certainly not a sectional problem just for one community. you much. community. thank you very much. dr. mendoza, executive dr. alan mendoza, executive htteetet— dr. alan mendoza, executive director- henry- dr. alan mendoza, executive director henry jackson director of the henry jackson seetety. — director of the henry jacksoni society, _ reaction society, giving us his reaction thete— society, giving us his reaction thetelhttme— society, giving us his reaction there diane diane abbott's there to diane diane abbott's emmemte a— there to diane diane abbott's comments. a labour spokesperson has comments. a labour spokesperson hte ettt— comments. a labour spokesperson hte ettt the— comments. a labour spokesperson has said the labour— comments. a labour spokesperson has said the labour party eemhtetety— has said the labour party completely condemns these

comments, deeply comments, which are deeply ettemehe— comments, which are deeply offensive and— comments, which are deeply offensive and wrong. the chief mhtt— offensive and wrong. the chief whip-suspended- offensive and wrong. the chief whip suspended the labour whip has suspended the labour whip_ whip has suspended the labour mhtt-httte— whip has suspended the labour whip diane abbott pending whip from diane abbott pending an . whip from diane abbott pending tm— het— whip from diane abbott pending an investigation. you are mttehtmt— an investigation. you are watching and— an investigation. you are watching and listening to gb heme— watching and listening to gb heme stmtty— watching and listening to gb news sunday with me, emily emmte.— news sunday with me, emily carville.-lots- news sunday with me, emily carville. lots more carville. we've got lots more eemtmt— carville. we've got lots more eemme th— carville. we've got lots more eemme th em— carville. we've got lots more coming up on today's today coming up on today's show. today is, coming up on today's show. today he et— coming up on today's show. today he et eettee— coming up on today's show. today is, of course, the— coming up on today's show. today is, of course, the london htttthem— is, of course, the london marathon olympic is, of course, the london- marathon _olympic legend marathon and it's olympic legend mo marathon and it's olympic legend he—temtem— marathon and it's olympic legend mo london marathon. marathon and it's olympic legend ibbelieve london marathon. marathon and it's olympic legend ibbelieve he london marathon. marathon and it's olympic legend ibbelieve he has_ondon marathon. marathon and it's olympic legend ibbelieve he has finished.arathon. marathon and it's olympic legend ibbelieve he has finished. i'll hon. i believe he has finished. i'll be i believe he has finished. i'll he—ett- i believe he has finished. i'll be_our london. be speaking to our london tehettet— be speaking to our london reporter. hartle- be speaking to our london reporter hartle on how reporter lisa hartle on how the day— reporter lisa hartle on how the ttyleehmt. — reporter lisa hartle on how the ttyleehmt. ah— reporter lisa hartle on how the daylgoing- all of_ reporter lisa hartle on how the day going. all of that. but day is going. all of that. but thet— day is going. all of that. but first,-weather_ day is going. all of that. but first, weather jonathan first, the weather with jonathan . hette — first, the weather with jonathan . hello there. _ first, the weather with jonathan . hello there. i'm— first, the weather with jonathan . hello there. “ . hello there. i'm jonathan vautrey here with your latest weather update from the met office temperatures are going to be below the seasonal average for all of us over the next few days, all because we've got northerly winds that are starting to feed in some much colder air from the arctic spreading way across all spreading its way across all areas the uk as we head into areas of the uk as we head into the new working week, these northerly winds have been quite strong across scotland throughout we'll throughout sunday and we'll continue some gales into continue to see some gales into the during the the evening and during the overnight period and that will bnng overnight period and that will bring higher bring some snow to the higher ground areas, sleet to ground areas, even sleet to lower so that cold air lower levels. so that cold air pushes elsewhere . the showers

pushes in elsewhere. the showers we've seen throughout today will gradually their way gradually clear their way off, but see further but we'll see further rain across northern ireland. underneath some clearer underneath some of the clearer spells do have there is the spells we do have there is the potential for patchy frost, potential for a patchy frost, particularly across of particularly across areas of scotland, towns and scotland, elsewhere, towns and cities around 4 to 6 c, some brightness first thing. but it is going to be cloudy, particularly for wales, into southwest england as this rain moves the cloud building moves in and the cloud building into central and southern areas of the day. of england throughout the day. some sunny spells developing for the half of the uk some sunny spells developing for the with half of the uk some sunny spells developing for the with a half of the uk some sunny spells developing for the with a scattering�*ie uk some sunny spells developing for the with a scattering of uk still with a scattering of showers, particularly across eastern areas where they eastern coastal areas where they could still wintry , pushing could still be wintry, pushing in on quite a brisk breeze and if you are exposed to that wind throughout will be throughout the day, it will be feeling closer freezing those feeling closer to freezing those showers will tend to ease showers inland will tend to ease off into monday evening, still persisting some northern persisting across some northern coastal and the cloud coastal areas and the cloud across half of the across the southern half of the uk also begin to its uk will also begin to push its way off as well . underneath some uk will also begin to push its wathoseas well . underneath some uk will also begin to push its wathose clearer. underneath some uk will also begin to push its wathose clearer intervalstath some uk will also begin to push its wathose clearer intervals that some of those clearer intervals that develop, though, it is going to be quite a cold night on monday with more of a with the risk of more of a widespread frost. so you just take care tender plants,

take care of some tender plants, but because of the clear spells that are developing, there will be amount of sunshine as be a good amount of sunshine as we tuesday. and it's we move into tuesday. and it's looking be much drier thanks looking to be much drier thanks to ridge high pressure to this ridge of high pressure that's it's going that's built in. it's only going to because to be transient, though, because we've got further weather fronts and pressure wants to we've got further weather fronts and in pressure wants to we've got further weather fronts and in prethe e wants to we've got further weather fronts and in prethe middle/ants to we've got further weather fronts and in prethe middle part to we've got further weather fronts and in prethe middle part of move in for the middle part of the week. so there is the risk that we see some further spells of rain towards wednesday and thursday. temperatures of rain towards wednesday and thursdrslowly temperatures of rain towards wednesday and thursdr slowly te to teratures of rain towards wednesday and thursdrslowly te to climb as of rain towards wednesday and tilittle slowly te to climb as of rain towards wednesday and tilittle bitwly te to climb as of rain towards wednesday and tilittle bit more te to climbas of rain towards wednesday and tilittle bit more aseto climbas of rain towards wednesday and tilittle bit more as well:limbas of rain towards wednesday and tilittle bit more as well:lin.ias

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40,000 people running through the etteete— 40,000 people running through the streets of— 40,000 people running through the streets of london. it's a htt— the streets of london. it's a hht et— the streets of london. it's a hht et t— the streets of london. it's a hht et t met— the streets of london. it's a bit of a wet day,- the streets of london. it's a bit of a wet day, but our our tehettet— bit of a wet day, but our our tehettet thet— bit of a wet day, but our our reporter lisa hartle is live for us now on the— reporter lisa hartle is live for us now on the route. hi there, ttet.— us now on the route. hi there, thet. hem-e— us now on the route. hi there, thet. hem-e ht— us now on the route. hi there, lisa. how's it going ? hi yeah, lisa. how's it going? hi yeah, htte— lisa. how's it going? hi yeah, he t— lisa. how's it going? hi yeah, he t httte— lisa. how's it going? hi yeah, it's a little bit— lisa. how's it going? hi yeah, it's a little bit wet, but we're eteet— it's a little bit wet, but we're eteet htet— it's a little bit wet, but we're eteet rtet hy— it's a little bit wet, but we're stood just by blackfriars bridge and stood just by blackfriars bridge the thete— stood just by blackfriars bridge and there are— stood just by blackfriars bridge and there are so— stood just by blackfriars bridge and there are so many members of the hththe— and there are so many members of the hththe htet— and there are so many members of the public just cheering people on the public just cheering people em the— the public just cheering people on the runners— the public just cheering people on the runners on. so this is thett— on the runners on. so this is about the 24.5 mile point . so about the 24.5 mile point. so 26.2 mile in total. so you can tethy— 26.2 mile in total. so you can really see i'll move out the way so you can have a look. it's more interesting than seeing me. you can see the runners there. you can see the runners there. you can see some of them really struggling. now, of course, like reaching end. but as you can reaching the end. but as you can hett— reaching the end. but as you can hete-eemte— reaching the end. but as you can hear,-crowd's really- hear, the crowd's really encouraging— hear, the crowd's really encouraging them all. �*iftt�*ts hear, the crowd's really- encouraging them all. we've got heehte— encouraging them all. we've got heehte et— encouraging them all. we've got heehte et tep— encouraging them all. we've got people on top of blackfriars bridge still people on top of blackfriars bri amazing still people on top of blackfriars bri amazing atmosphere still people on top of blackfriars bri amazing atmosphere and.l people on top of blackfriars bri amazing atmosphere and these an amazing atmosphere and these people just incredible, people are just incredible, especially some in some especially some of them in some of big costumes we've seen. of the big costumes we've seen. there's rhino . i saw him at there's a rhino. i saw him at the start or her and they've just gone past the rhino costume. looks like it's falling apart. a little bit now. but yeah, nearing the- apart. a little bit now. but yeah, nearing the end.- yeah, nearing the end. and i

etete— yeah, nearing the end. and i ehete tt— yeah, nearing the end. and i ehete tt the— yeah, nearing the end. and i spoke at the beginning, before the-etttem— spoke at the beginning, before the-started, i— spoke at the beginning, before the started, i spoke the race started, i spoke to someone called - the race started, i spoke to someone called stuart mackie , someone called stuart mackie, mhe-e—he-ei who's running today, and he's ttmmhmt— who's running today, and he's ttmmhmt hm— who's running today, and he's running in memory of his mum . running in memory of his mum. so running in memory of his mum. se h— running in memory of his mum. se h thhtt— running in memory of his mum. so i think we've— running in memory of his mum. so i think we've got— running in memory of his mum. so i think we've got the- so i think we've got the interview for you now just to have a listen to what stuart had to say. okay so how are you feeling? you're going run feeling? you're going to run the london is this london marathon today. is this your first time? yeah, it's my first marathon. feel little first marathon. i feel a little mixture of and anxiety, mixture of nerves and anxiety, but yeah, i'm looking to but yeah, i'm looking forward to it keen, quite keen to it and quite keen, quite keen to get it started now. so it's been a long get it started now. so it's been t temt ttme— get it started now. so it's been a long time waiting— get it started now. so it's been a long time waiting for- t3tsc c 2 so it's been a long time waiting for it. so yett.— a long time waiting for it. so yeth. ht— a long time waiting for it. so yeah, it should— a long time waiting for it. so yeah, it should be— a long time waiting for it. so yeah, it should be good.- a long time waiting for it. so yeah, it should be good. how long have you been training for? i started training at the end i started training in at the end of i started training in at the end et—tetmt— i started training in at the end et—tetmt ett- i started training in at the end of_found out i- i started training in at the end of_found out i wasi of december, found out i was tethe— of december, found out i was hette-the— of december, found out i was tehmt-the emt- of december, found out i was doing-the end of- of december, found out i was doing the end of november, doing it at the end of november, so doing it at the end of november, ee-teet— doing it at the end of november, ee-teet tem— doing it at the end of november, so good few months of so i had a good few months of ttthmhmt— so i had a good few months of ttthmhmt tmt— so i had a good few months of training and preparation now. so yeth— training and preparation now. so yeth. htttet— training and preparation now. so yeth. tteet te— training and preparation now. so yeth. tteet te tet— training and preparation now. so yeah. eager to get it started. amt— yeah. eager to get it started. amt mhe— yeah. eager to get it started. amt mhe te— yeah. eager to get it started. and who are you— yeah. eager to get it started. and who are you money and who are you raising money tete— and who are you raising money tete htttette— and who are you raising money for? raising-the- for? raising money for the hmethttte— institute of cancer research and ttmmhmt— institute of cancer research and runninglmemory_ institute of cancer research and running memory late running in memory of my late methet— running in memory of my late methet mhe— running in memory of my late mother who-last- running in memory of my late mother who last year from mother who died last year from cancer. unfortunately last rtmttty.— cancer. unfortunately last mtmy-thtt- cancer. unfortunately last. january. _that-to cancer. unfortunately last- january.-that-to be january. so is that going to be eemmmt— january. so is that going to be spurring-that's- january. so is that going to be spurring that's my main spurring you on? that's my main methtthem— spurring you on? that's my main motivation-is— spurring you on? that's my main motivation.-is to- spurring you on? that's my main motivation. is to run in motivation. yeah. is to run in het— motivation. yeah. is to run in het memety— motivation. yeah. is to run in het memety et— motivation. yeah. is to run in her memory of course. and i've mtmttee— her memory of course. and i've mtmttetltthee— her memory of course. and i've managed raise some some good managed to raise some some good memey— managed to raise some some good memey-hmethttte— money for the institute as well. so money for the institute as well. se-ht-e— money for the institute as well.

ee-ht-e heem— money for the institute as well. so-it's been-a- money for the institute as well. so-it's been-a nicei so yeah, it's been been a nice eethte— so yeah, it's been been a nice eethte et— so yeah, it's been been a nice couple of months. _ so yeah, it's been been a nice couple of months. it's been the ethhett— couple of months. it's been the ethhett htte— couple of months. it's been the support i've received from ttmhty— support i've received from family-friends- support i've received from family friends been family and friends has been overwhelming— family and friends has been overwhelming really. so yeah, family and friends has been overiexcitedig really. so yeah, family and friends has been overiexcitedig realgetting, ah, very excited about getting, eemme.— very excited about getting,- emttt—theee getting, getting going. £7,000 het-t— getting, getting going. £7,000 htt-yette— getting, getting going. £7,000 isn't-you've raised- getting, getting going. £7,000 isn't-you've raised 11. isn't it, that you've raised 11 now. it's been a bit of now. yeah. so it's been a bit of a now. yeah. so it's been a bit of t ttte— now. yeah. so it's been a bit of t ttte ttm— now. yeah. so it's been a bit of t ttte tet— now. yeah. so it's been a bit of a late run for the— now. yeah. so it's been a bit of a late run for the last- yeah. so it's been a bit of a late run for the last few days so a late run for the last few days ee tmt— a late run for the last few days ee the h— a late run for the last few days so and i think— a late run for the last few days so and i think there should be some more coming in. so yeah, tethy— some more coming in. so yeah, tettty etehtet. — some more coming in. so yeah, really excited. and— some more coming in. so yeah, really excited. and what are you meet— really excited. and what are you meet teethmt— really excited. and what are you most looking-to? - really excited. and what are you most looking to? �*iftt�*“sc most looking forward to? what any most looking forward to? what thy-ht— most looking forward to? what any-in particular- most looking forward to? what any in particular on the any points in particular on the on round. clearly the on the way round. clearly the mth— on the way round. clearly the main landmarks— on the way round. clearly the main landmarks-sort- on the way round. clearly the. main landmarks-sorthutty main landmarks are sort of cutty ettt— main landmarks are sort of cutty ettt-heme— main landmarks are sort of cutty sark-tower bridge- main landmarks are sort of cutty sark tower bridge as well. sark and tower bridge as well. amt— sark and tower bridge as well. amt-tete— sark and tower bridge as well. and-told canary- sark and tower bridge as well. and told canary wharf the and i'm told canary wharf the tthety— and i'm told canary wharf the tthety-thtt— and i'm told canary wharf the tthety-thtt tt- and i'm told canary wharf the tricky _that at that- tricky point at that at that ettte— tricky point at that at that ettte-ttte.- tricky point at that at that- stage - race, _when stage of the race, that's when you— stage of the race, that's when yet-ht— stage of the race, that's when yet-ht meet. — stage of the race, that's when you-it most. and- stage of the race, that's when you it most. and my brother you feel it most. and my brother the— you feel it most. and my brother the my— you feel it most. and my brother the my ttt— you feel it most. and my brother and my dad will— you feel it most. and my brother and my dad will be— you feel it most. and my brother and my dad will be there around etmtty— and my dad will be there around canary-supporting- and my dad will be there around canary supporting. so that canary wharf supporting. so that ehettt— canary wharf supporting. so that eheme—ettt- canary wharf supporting. so that should extra boost. i should give me an extra boost. i thhmh— should give me an extra boost. i thhmt. se— should give me an extra boost. i think. so-wife's_ should give me an extra boost. i think. so wife's along think. so my wife's coming along as think. so my wife's coming along te-she-e— think. so my wife's coming along te-she-e eetmt— think. so my wife's coming along as-she's going to- think. so my wife's coming along as she's going to at as well. she's going to be at the— as well. she's going to be at the thet— as well. she's going to be at the ttet-h- as well. she's going to be at the first-i think- as well. she's going to be at the first i think we've the first half. so i think we've got— the first half. so i think we've tet meet— the first half. so i think we've eet meet et— the first half. so i think we've got most of the— the first half. so i think we've got most of the route covered. so got most of the route covered. se—ttet.— got most of the route covered. so_luck. thank- got most of the route covered.| so_luck. thank you so well. good luck. thank you my— so well. good luck. thank you tety-hmteet.— so well. good luck. thank you very indeed. thank you so, very much indeed. thank you so, yeah,— very much indeed. thank you so, yeth ee— very much indeed. thank you so, yeah, so obviously,— very much indeed. thank you so, yeah, so obviously, everyone ttmmhmt— yeah, so obviously, everyone ttmmhmt hete— yeah, so obviously, everyone running here today raising money for running here today raising money tet—he- for charity. £60 million is usually charity just usually raised for charity just from this from the london marathon. thought i'd marathon. and i thought i'd update as well. olivia gb update you as well. olivia gb news is political— c. 2 olivia gb news is political reporter. she-e— news is political reporter.

she's finished— news is political reporter. she's finished the- news is political reporter. she's finished the race. she did a great time. she got three hours and 27, which is obviously incredible. so hours and 27, which is obviously incredible . so yeah, so like i incredible. so yeah, so like i ethe— incredible. so yeah, so like i etht . — incredible. so yeah, so like i etht . teth— incredible. so yeah, so like i said . yeah, i— incredible. so yeah, so like i said . yeah, i know. it's an said. yeah, i know. it's an amazing time, isn't it? so it's so hard to hear here. - amazing time, isn't it? so it's so hard to hear here. it's- “3 c c c7’ so it's so hard to hear here. it's very hett— so hard to hear here. it's very loud because— so hard to hear here. it's very loud because everyone's being my— loud because everyone's being very enthusiastic— loud because everyone's being very enthusiastic and helping the ttmmete— very enthusiastic and helping the runners along on this last etteteh. — the runners along on this last etteteh. se— the runners along on this last stretch. so they'll- the runners along on this last stretch. cc 2 2 stretch. so they'll head down towards westminster and then they up on the approach they finish up on the approach to buckingham palace where they'll the mall and that they'll end on the mall and that that amazing when they that amazing feeling when they finish across the finish line finish go across the finish line . well, thank you very much. thet— . well, thank you very much. tht httte— . well, thank you very much. lisa hartle for— . well, thank you very much. lisa hartle for standing- . well, thank you very much. lisa hartle for standing out there in the rain. but keeping i here— there in the rain. but keeping i here yee— there in the rain. but keeping i hope you're cheering- c“tsits “ “ but keeping i hope you're cheering people on thtt— hope you're cheering people on that-seriously— hope you're cheering people on that seriously impressive. that is seriously impressive. ttem — that is seriously impressive. ttem _httey- that is seriously impressive. ttem _httey .- that is seriously impressive. ttem-httey. h- that is seriously impressive. from utley . i wonder from olivia utley. i wonder how chthetehhet— from olivia utley. i wonder how christopher-is— from olivia utley. i wonder how christopher is doing also christopher hope is doing also hem— christopher hope is doing also hem-heme.— christopher hope is doing also from news. wonder if he's from gb news. i wonder if he's thmhehet— from gb news. i wonder if he's finished-perhaps- from gb news. i wonder if he's finished perhaps we'll find finished yet. perhaps we'll find out finished yet. perhaps we'll find ett tttet. — finished yet. perhaps we'll find out later. but— finished yet. perhaps we'll find out later. but moving back to htt— out later. but moving back to big tethe— out later. but moving back to our big topic of— out later. but moving back to our big topic of the day, diane ahhett— our big topic of the day, diane abbott losing— our big topic of the day, diane abbott losing the— our big topic of the day, diane abbott losing the labour party mhhh. — abbott losing the labour party mhhh. chthe— abbott losing the labour party whip. chris says— abbott losing the labour party whip. chris says i— abbott losing the labour party whip. chris says i believe we mhtt— whip. chris says i believe we mhtt mem— whip. chris says i believe we will now-out— whip. chris says i believe we will now-out how- whip. chris says i believe we will now out how strong a will now find out how strong a tettet— will now find out how strong a tettet hett— will now find out how strong a leader keir starmer what leader keir starmer is. what ahhett— leader keir starmer is. what ahhett hte— leader keir starmer is. what abbott has-is- leader keir starmer is. what abbott has-is a- leader keir starmer is. what abbott has is a lot more abbott has said is a lot more ttmtehmt— abbott has said is a lot more damaging bullying damaging than the bullying thttte— damaging than the bullying thttte-httth— damaging than the bullying. charge-raab-over damaging than the bullying- charge-raab-over. charge that raab resigned over. yest— charge that raab resigned over. hee meth— charge that raab resigned over. hee me-h eee— charge that raab resigned over. yes, we'll see how— charge that raab resigned over. yes, we'll see how that investigation - yes, we'll see how that investigation into her conduct

teee— investigation into her conduct teee .— investigation into her conduct teee . ae— investigation into her conduct teee . the httte— investigation into her conduct goes . as julie says, i am goes. as julie says, i am tttetty— goes. as julie says, i am utterly shocked and appalled by httte— utterly shocked and appalled by diane abbott's— utterly shocked and appalled by diane abbott's comments . she diane abbott's comments. she ehettt— diane abbott's comments. she ehettt he— diane abbott's comments. she should be sacked— diane abbott's comments. she should be sacked if diane abbott is should be sacked if diane abbott he the— should be sacked if diane abbott he thte te— should be sacked if diane abbott is able to remain— should be sacked if diane abbott is able to remain a— should be sacked if diane abbott is able to remain a labour mp or even an independent mp , it would even an independent mp, it would set even an independent mp, it would eetlttmtetete— even an independent mp, it would set dangerous precedent for set a dangerous precedent for eeehety— set a dangerous precedent for society-william- set a dangerous precedent for society william has to say society and william has to say hhtme— society and william has to say hhtme ahhett— society and william has to say diane abbott just— society and william has to say diane abbott just made an error. did diane abbott just made an error. hht ehee— diane abbott just made an error. hht ehee mhtt— diane abbott just made an error. did she? what exactly was the httt— did she? what exactly was the httt et— did she? what exactly was the error part of this— did she? what exactly was the error part of this push the send htttet— error part of this push the send htttem hy— error part of this push the send button by mistake— error part of this push the send button by mistake and without memthe— button by mistake and without tmemhmt het— button by mistake and without knowing her views are long held and knowing her views are long held the teeth— knowing her views are long held and deeply believed. and sarah, she and deeply believed. and sarah, ehe etye— and deeply believed. and sarah, ehe etye h— and deeply believed. and sarah, she says, i think— and deeply believed. and sarah, she says, i think diane abbott hte— she says, i think diane abbott has demonstrated beautifully thtt— has demonstrated beautifully that intelligence is no longer a htetetthehte— that intelligence is no longer a prerequisite for— that intelligence is no longer a prerequisite for becoming an mp. the prerequisite for becoming an mp. the etthhte— prerequisite for becoming an mp. the calibre of— prerequisite for becoming an mp. the calibre of labour mps is so tem— the calibre of labour mps is so tem h— the calibre of labour mps is so tem h eem-t— the calibre of labour mps is so low i don't want— the calibre of labour mps is so low i don't want to— the calibre of labour mps is so low i don't want to vote for the hetee— low i don't want to vote for the tories anymore.— low i don't want to vote for the tories anymore. but then i'm temhmtet— tories anymore. but then i'm temhmtet et— tories anymore. but then i'm reminded of the— tories anymore. but then i'm reminded of the danger of tthett-e— reminded of the danger of labour's current shambles being in labour's current shambles being hm ehttte— labour's current shambles being in charge. well,— labour's current shambles being in charge. well, there you go. hehhe— in charge. well, there you go. hobbs choice— in charge. well, there you go. hobbs choice .— in charge. well, there you go. hobbs choice . keep your views hobbs choice. keep your views eemhmt— hobbs choice. keep your views eemhmt hm— hobbs choice. keep your views eemme hm tmt— hobbs choice. keep your views coming in and do— hobbs choice. keep your views coming in and do subscribe to em-htmmet- coming in and do subscribe to our-channel.-arel coming in and do subscribe to. our-channel.-are at our youtube channel. we are at gb our youtube channel. we are at he heme.— our youtube channel. we are at he heme. et— our youtube channel. we are at gb news. of course you are mttehhmt— gb news. of course you are mttehhmg tmt— gb news. of course you are watching and listening to gb heme.— watching and listening to gb heme-mtth- watching and listening to gbi news.-with-emily news. sunday with me, emily ttmet— news. sunday with me, emily emet-htet- news. sunday with me, emily carver.-back in- news. sunday with me, emily carver. back in just carver. i'll be back in just a thtt. — carver. i'll be back in just a thtt. hte— carver. i'll be back in just a tick. we will— carver. i'll be back in just a tick. we will be— carver. i'll be back in just a tick. we will be coming back to yet.— tick. we will be coming back to yet. he— tick. we will be coming back to you. £8 million— tick. we will be coming back to you. £8 million has been made ttthtthte— you. £8 million has been made ttthtthte te— you. £8 million has been made available to tackle— you. £8 million has been made available to tackle the issue of homelessness— available to tackle the issue of homelessness among armed forces

tee thtt— homelessness among armed forces veterans. that £8— homelessness among armed forces veterans. that £8 million has heem— veterans. that £8 million has heem mtete— veterans. that £8 million has been made available to tackle the heete— been made available to tackle the issue among— been made available to tackle the issue among four fs veterans. but— the issue among four fs veterans. but is this really emetem— veterans. but is this really emetghe th— veterans. but is this really enough? i'll speak with an armed tee— enough? i'll speak with an armed forces veteran— enough? i'll speak with an armed forces veteran about this in htet— forces veteran about this in het ee— forces veteran about this in het zo— forces veteran about this in just over 20 minutes. we'll also be just over 20 minutes. we'll also he teeehthmt— just over 20 minutes. we'll also be receiving the— just over 20 minutes. we'll also be receiving the national alert on be receiving the national alert em—hhemee.- be receiving the national alert on_phones. we'll. be receiving the national alert. on_phones. we'll be on our mobile phones. we'll be building— on our mobile phones. we'll be building-that— on our mobile phones. we'll be building-that .- on our mobile phones. we'll be building-that . all- on our mobile phones. we'll be building that . all of that building up to that. all of that after— building up to that. all of that after the— building up to that. all of that after the news— building up to that. all of that after the news with aaron armstrong— after the news with aaron armstrong .— after the news with aaron armstrong . hi,- after the news with aaron armstrong . hi, there it is. $9152! armstrong. hi, there it is. 232 arron— armstrong. hi, there it is. 232 arron armstrong _ armstrong. hi, there it is. 232 arron armstrong here in the gb newsroom rishi sunak says uk armed forces have completed a complex evacuation of british diplomats and their families from sudan after a significant escalation of violence there. the prime minister has confirmed that work is continuing to ensure the safety of british nationals who remain in sudan. the operation involved more than 1200 military personnel and was completed alongside the united states. france and other allies. at least 413 civilians have been killed . and as the sudanese army killed. and as the sudanese army and rival paramilitary forces

battled for control of the country. meanwhile an alert will be heard on your smartphone in about half an hour. all across the uk, people will get a message on their home screen and that sound and also a vibration which may last up to ten seconds. drivers though, are being told to follow the normal traffic laws before touching their phone to wipe the message away. it is intended to warn people about life threatening situations like fires, flooding or terror attacks . and diane or terror attacks. and diane abbott has been suspended as a labour mp pending an investigation in for saying jewish people are not subjected to racism . in a letter for the to racism. in a letter for the observer newspaper, the former shadow health secretary said many types of white people with point of difference like irish, jewish or red headed people, are subjected to prejudice , but they subjected to prejudice, but they don't experience racism . ms don't experience racism. ms abbott has since withdrawn the remarks and has apologised for any offence caused. a labour party spokesperson has condemned the that condemned the the offence that condemned the comments as deeply offensive and

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non—event. and boris eating some cane— non—event. and boris eating some eene ee— non—event. and boris eating some eene ee gggg. — non—event. and boris eating some cake so trivial. one— non—event. and boris eating some cake so trivial. one might say nee-e— cake so trivial. one might say that's whataboutery, but also i ennn— that's whataboutery, but also i ennk yen— that's whataboutery, but also i think you raise— that's whataboutery, but also i think you raise a— that's whataboutery, but also i think you raise a good point nee.— think you raise a good point enene. ane— think you raise a good point there. and he— think you raise a good point there. and he says, i think that sterner— there. and he says, i think that sterner neu— there. and he says, i think that starmer will put— there. and he says, i think that starmer will put up with the enen— starmer will put up with the enen tenn— starmer will put up with the short term hurt— starmer will put up with the short term hurt as it will help nin— short term hurt as it will help nin g..— short term hurt as it will help nin in ne— short term hurt as it will help him in his narrative of reforming— him in his narrative of reforming the labour party with enengn— reforming the labour party with enengn nne— reforming the labour party with enough time until the next election— enough time until the next election ne— enough time until the next election to brush it aside. yes, it election to brush it aside. yes, in win— election to brush it aside. yes, in will be— election to brush it aside. yes, it will be interesting to see new— it will be interesting to see new leng— it will be interesting to see how long this— it will be interesting to see how long this investigation genes,— how long this investigation takes, whether— how long this investigation takes, whether she'll be dumped as a labour— takes, whether she'll be dumped as a labour mp,— takes, whether she'll be dumped as a labour mp, what will happen 7 as a labour mp, what will happen ene— as a labour mp, what will happen wee-ne— as a labour mp, what will happen ewe-ne eee— as a labour mp, what will happen ? 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moving on. something's coming up an 3 gm.— moving on. something's coming up an e p-m- nne— moving on. something's coming up at 3 pm. the government will send—eu- at 3 pm. the government will send—all mobile. send an alert to all mobile nnene— send an alert to all mobile gnene neen— send an alert to all mobile phone users. that's in about 20 ish phone users. that's in about 20 en ninetee— phone users. that's in about 20 en ninnnee .— phone users. that's in about 20 ish minutes . this— phone users. that's in about 20 ish minutes . this is to test the ish minutes. this is to test the system — ish minutes. this is to test the system we— ish minutes. this is to test the system. it's intended to warn of life threatening— system. it's intended to warn of life threatening events such as neede— life threatening events such as needs on— life threatening events such as floods or wildfires . joining me floods or wildfires. joining me n— floods or wildfires. joining me n janee— floods or wildfires. joining me now is james bore, the director of ne— now is james bore, the director on nne nonde— now is james bore, the director of the boards group . james, of the boards group. james, enenn— of the boards group. james, enenn yen— of the boards group. james, nnenn you very— of the boards group. james, thank you very much indeed for joining— thank you very much indeed for joining ne— thank you very much indeed for joining neu— thank you very much indeed for joining me. tell me , are you joining me. tell me, are you looking— joining me. tell me, are you looking forward— joining me. tell me, are you looking forward to this alert ? looking forward to this alert? i looking forward to this alert? n women-n— looking forward to this alert? n neutnn-e ..,_ looking forward to this alert? i wouldn't say i'm— looking forward to this alert? i wouldn't say i'm looking forward to it. by all accounts, ne— forward to it. by all accounts, we going— forward to it. by all accounts, we going ne— forward to it. by all accounts, we going n be— forward to it. by all accounts, it's going to be loud. - : c by all accounts, it's going to be loud. cinzzn it's going to be loud. go on for gong..— it's going to be loud. go on for longer than i'd like. and then you'll have to dismiss it to get your phone back right. how long is it going to your phone back right. how long is in going no go— your phone back right. how long is it going to go for— your phone back right. how long is it going to go for ?_ your phone back right. how long is it going to go for ? on - your phone back right. how long is it going to go for ? on ten is it going to go for? on ten see-onso nne— is it going to go for? on ten seconds. the siren- is it going to go for? on ten seconds. the siren alert sound . seconds. the siren alert sound. that's quite a long time. are you— that's quite a long time. are you concerned— that's quite a long time. are you concerned by— that's quite a long time. are you concerned by this in any way?— you concerned by this in any new snonto— you concerned by this in any way? should we— you concerned by this in any way? should we be concerned ? a way? should we be concerned? a lot on— way? should we be concerned? a on on people— way? should we be concerned? a lot of people think— way? should we be concerned? a lot of people think this is an exempte— lot of people think this is an example on— lot of people think this is an example of government overreach . wny— example of government overreach . on snow— example of government overreach . why should they— example of government overreach . why should they be able to intense— . why should they be able to interact with— . why should they be able to interact with us— . why should they be able to interact with us through our pnones— interact with us through our gnones onen— interact with us through our phones that we've privately pnnenoseo— phones that we've privately purchased these aren't anything

n— purchased these aren't anything new. i mean, the— purchased these aren't anything new. " c a purchased these aren't anything new. " f c 805 new. i mean, the capability 80s have been in phones generally for years now. it's just activate that system in the uk , activate that system in the uk, they'd always been able to do it mean you can get text messages from the government quite freely. that's true and my main concern is more related to false alarms and the impact that can have on people such as in hawaii five years ago. oh, there we go. there's the sound. so what kind of nose— there's the sound. so what kind of false alarms— there's the sound. so what kind of false alarms are— there's the sound. so what kind of false alarms are you thinking of false alarms are you thinking on gonennouy— of false alarms are you thinking of potentially people being told that of potentially people being told one onenes— of potentially people being told that there's a _ of potentially people being told that there's a terror attack imminent— that there's a terror attack imminent and— that there's a terror attack imminent and then it doesn't nonsnne— imminent and then it doesn't transpire more— imminent and then it doesn't transpire more so— imminent and then it doesn't transpire more so . in hawaii transpire more so. in hawaii 20.8,— transpire more so. in hawaii 20.8, onene— transpire more so. in hawaii 2018, there was— transpire more so. in hawaii 2018, there was an alert that seno— 2018, there was an alert that sent on— 2018, there was an alert that was sent out saying there were incoming— was sent out saying there were incoming ballistic— was sent out saying there were incoming ballistic missiles and it incoming ballistic missiles and in soon— incoming ballistic missiles and in soon so— incoming ballistic missiles and it took 38 minutes for it to be eetee— it took 38 minutes for it to be eetee ,— it took 38 minutes for it to be detect , acted _ it took 38 minutes for it to be detect , acted and— it took 38 minutes for it to be detect , acted and responded to detect, acted and responded to as o ense— detect, acted and responded to as a false alarm.— detect, acted and responded to as a false alarm. _ detect, acted and responded to as a false alarm. 38 as a false alarm. so for 38 minutes, people thought that their lives were going to end, that the country was going to be destroyed. and that's true . btec destroyed. and that's true. btec and that is definitely an event. so the safeguards that have to

be around preventing frivolous use or malicious use of these systems need to be huge . and our systems need to be huge. and our government haven't shown great security awareness around technology. well, that's that's a very good point. i mean, firstly, a very good point. i mean, nnsny, onen— a very good point. i mean, firstly, that would - a very good point. i mean, firstly, that would be- firstly, that would be absolutely- firstly, that would be absolutely terrifying to be told snoo— absolutely terrifying to be told one you — absolutely terrifying to be told that you are under imminent onen— that you are under imminent nnneon eno— that you are under imminent threat and then— that you are under imminent threat and then to only find out gene— threat and then to only find out quite o— threat and then to only find out one o none— threat and then to only find out quite a little bit— threat and then to only find out quite a little bit later that genoty— quite a little bit later that actually you're _ quite a little bit later that actually you're all right. but tne— actually you're all right. but tne guesnon— actually you're all right. but the question of— actually you're all right. but the question of infiltration now:— the question of infiltration tnot— the question of infiltration tnot ts— the question of infiltration now, that is an— the question of infiltration now, that is an interesting one. were— now, that is an interesting one. were tote— now, that is an interesting one. were out o— now, that is an interesting one. we're told a lot— now, that is an interesting one. we're told a lot by— now, that is an interesting one. we're told a lot by the government- we're told a lot by the government .- we're told a lot by the government . and of course, we government. and of course, we know— government. and of course, we know ourselves— government. and of course, we know ourselves that russia and cntno— know ourselves that russia and china-capabilities- know ourselves that russia and china capabilities to china have capabilities to tnnnnte— china have capabilities to infiltrate our— china have capabilities to infiltrate our crucial security infrastructure _ infiltrate our crucial security infrastructure for surely , you infrastructure for surely, you know,— infrastructure for surely, you know, geogte— infrastructure for surely, you know, people and people in enme— know, people and people in cntno, geopte— know, people and people in china, people linked with the semen— china, people linked with the kremlin could— china, people linked with the kremlin could perhaps easily inform— kremlin could perhaps easily inform trait— kremlin could perhaps easily inform trait this— kremlin could perhaps easily inform trait this kind of system , gosstnn— inform trait this kind of system , gosstng ne— inform trait this kind of system , possibly be more— inform trait this kind of system , possibly be more likely is a otsgnnnneo— , possibly be more likely is a disgruntled person with access to me— disgruntled person with access to tne system— disgruntled person with access to the system or— disgruntled person with access to the system or someone with , to the system or someone with, tet-s— to the system or someone with, tet-s soy, — to the system or someone with, tet-s soy, o— to the system or someone with, tens soy, o goon— to the system or someone with, let's say, a poor sense of nnnonn — let's say, a poor sense of humour. decide- let's say, a poor sense of humour. that. it; let's say, a poor sense of humour. let's say, a poor sense of- humour. decide to activate it one day. what someone working in

in the in a government department? yeah. we don't know what safeguards are around it. i would hope that they've learned from 2018 and various other false alarms that have happened. but there's no guarantee of that. there's not much transparency around the security of this system . well, to the of this system. well, to the government's— of this system. well, to the government's credit- of this system. well, to the government's credit ,- well, to the government's credit , they have government's credit, they have pne-nonneo — government's credit, they have pne—nonneo us— government's credit, they have pre—warned us. it's been in even— pre—warned us. it's been in every newspaper, it's been on even— every newspaper, it's been on every television— every newspaper, it's been on every television channel, it's been— every television channel, it's been on— every television channel, it's been on even— every television channel, it's been on every radio station . been on every radio station. n-s— been on every radio station. its been— been on every radio station. its been of— been on every radio station. it's been, of course, all over societ— it's been, of course, all over sootot neon,— it's been, of course, all over social media, but- it's been, of course, all over social media, but presumably tnene— social media, but presumably tnene onu— social media, but presumably there will be— social media, but presumably there will be some people who eon-t— there will be some people who eon-t pav— there will be some people who don't pay attention to any of not— don't pay attention to any of not nno— don't pay attention to any of that who will— don't pay attention to any of that who will be— don't pay attention to any of that who will be alarmed by his— that who will be alarmed by tnts. nut— that who will be alarmed by tnts. not go— that who will be alarmed by this. but do you— that who will be alarmed by this. but do you think overall tnts— this. but do you think overall tnts ts— this. but do you think overall tnts is o— this. but do you think overall tnts is o gooe— this. but do you think overall this is a good capability for me— this is a good capability for the government— this is a good capability for the government to have a good teee— the government to have a good idea none— the government to have a good idea on 0n— the government to have a good idea for? or overall, do you mine— idea for? or overall, do you tntnk n-s— idea for? or overall, do you tntnk n-s o— idea for? or overall, do you think it's a net— idea for? or overall, do you think it's a net negative ? c think it's a net negative? it's very— think it's a net negative? it's very dependent— think it's a net negative? it's very dependent on- think it's a net negative? it's very dependent on how they've built it , how safe it very dependent on how they've built it, how safe it is and how they use it, having these sorts of emergency alerts, they have huge benefits in the case of

emergencies , if they're used emergencies, if they're used lightly , if they use casually, lightly, if they use casually, if they're not protected effectively, they can actually do damage as well. so it's not an easy question to answer. do damage as well. so it's not an easy question to answer . and an easy question to answer. and i will say, given the current record of our government, when they said it was happening at 3 pm, i did put my phone in another room overnight. so i didn't get woken up. if it went off at 3 am. instead. well, a little part of me is quite excited sighted about the prospect of this alarm going off and i don't know if that makes me a shadow naive or i don't know, maybe i need to get out more. buti know, maybe i need to get out more. but i think it's i'm waning— more. but i think it's i'm waiting .— more. but i think it's i'm waiting . waiting- but i think it's i'm waiting . waiting patiently. waiting. waiting patiently. neve— waiting. waiting patiently. weve got— waiting. waiting patiently. we've got, what, 71 minutes to go nu— we've got, what, 71 minutes to go nu n— we've got, what, 71 minutes to go nu it goes— we've got, what, 71 minutes to go till it goes live— we've got, what, 71 minutes to go till it goes live on my pnone. — go till it goes live on my gnone. .— go till it goes live on my phone. i wonder what sound exactn— phone. i wonder what sound exoeny n— phone. i wonder what sound exactly it will— phone. i wonder what sound exactly it will make. i wonder if n— exactly it will make. i wonder if n onu— exactly it will make. i wonder if it out go— exactly it will make. i wonder if it will go oh— exactly it will make. i wonder if it will go on for— exactly it will make. i wonder if it will go on for ten seconds, as- if it will go on for ten seconds, as you say. i wonder exoeny— seconds, as you say. i wonder exoeny onet— seconds, as you say. i wonder exactly what it— seconds, as you say. i wonder exactly what it will tell me. i guess— exactly what it will tell me. i guess it— exactly what it will tell me. i guess it onu— exactly what it will tell me. i guess it will tell— exactly what it will tell me. i guess it will tell me to not be nonmet— guess it will tell me to not be otonneo ny— guess it will tell me to not be alarmed by the _ guess it will tell me to not be alarmed by the alarm. that will go on— alarmed by the alarm. that will go on for— alarmed by the alarm. that will go on for ten— alarmed by the alarm. that will go on for ten seconds and then we onu— go on for ten seconds and then we win go— go on for ten seconds and then we will go from _ go on for ten seconds and then we will go from there. but thank you very—

we will go from there. but thank you very neon— we will go from there. but thank you very much indeed. james onene— you very much indeed. james bucha, director— you very much indeed. james bucha, director of the boars awn— bucha, director of the boars club there, taking us through wnot— club there, taking us through wnot tnts— club there, taking us through what this emergency alert that is imminent— what this emergency alert that is imminent in_ what this emergency alert that is imminent in about 15 minutes, test— is imminent in about 15 minutes, test onowt— is imminent in about 15 minutes, just about we'll— is imminent in about 15 minutes, just about we'll come on your pnone. — just about we'll come on your gnone. h..— just about we'll come on your phone. the purpose of it, the potentio— phone. the purpose of it, the potential pitfalls— phone. the purpose of it, the potential pitfalls and what sowe— potential pitfalls and what some ne— potential pitfalls and what could be coming next. now we're moving— could be coming next. now we're moving to— could be coming next. now we're moving to on— could be coming next. now we're moving to on o— could be coming next. now we're moving to on a different story, up moving to on a different story, we to— moving to on a different story, we to no— moving to on a different story, up to £8 million— moving to on a different story, up to £8 million has been made owononte— up to £8 million has been made owononte to— up to £8 million has been made available to tackle— up to £8 million has been made available to tackle the issue of homelessness— available to tackle the issue of homelessness among armed forces , veterans, charities— homelessness among armed forces , veterans, charities and other organisations— , veterans, charities and other organisations can— , veterans, charities and other organisations can bid for the eosn— organisations can bid for the eosn to— organisations can bid for the cash to provide— organisations can bid for the cash to provide accommodation one— cash to provide accommodation one one— cash to provide accommodation and other support— cash to provide accommodation and other support for people who fowgnt— and other support for people who nowgnt non— and other support for people who nowgnt non tnts— and other support for people who fought for this country but have fatten— fought for this country but have fatten on— fought for this country but have fallen on hard— fought for this country but have fallen on hard times . there are fallen on hard times. there are tnowsonos— fallen on hard times. there are thousands of— fallen on hard times. there are thousands of homeless veterans in we— thousands of homeless veterans in we un— thousands of homeless veterans in we we .— thousands of homeless veterans in the uk . with— thousands of homeless veterans in the uk . with me now is in the uk. with me now is lieutenant— in the uk. with me now is lieutenant general sir andrew onegow— lieutenant general sir andrew onegow one— lieutenant general sir andrew gregory and drew, thank you very neon— gregory and drew, thank you very nwen tnoeeo— gregory and drew, thank you very much indeed for— gregory and drew, thank you very much indeed forjoining me this much indeed for joining me this afternoon. — much indeed for joining me this afternoon. es— much indeed for joining me this afternoon. £8 million. sounds good— afternoon. £8 million. sounds good .— afternoon. £8 million. sounds gooo . ts— afternoon. £8 million. sounds good . ts n— afternoon. £8 million. sounds good . is it enough to make a good. is it enough to make a difference— good. is it enough to make a difference to— good. is it enough to make a difference to veterans lives ? difference to veterans lives? £8 difference to veterans lives? so mutton— difference to veterans lives? £8 million is— difference to veterans lives? £8 million is great- difference to veterans lives? £8 million is great news. we'd always love more. of course we'd love more. but £8 million is a great start . and i think for

great start. and i think for charities like ssafa , the armed charities like ssafa, the armed forces charity are challenge is to work with the government to work with the other charities and make sure this money is put to the best use possible. so have you been lobbying the government for this cash ? have government for this cash? have you been saying we need- g f“ have you been saying we need more money— you been saying we need more money coming— you been saying we need more money coming from central government— money coming from central government out— money coming from central government out to help? well, get tes— government out to help? well, get veterans off— government out to help? well, get veterans off the streets . get veterans off the streets. were— get veterans off the streets. we're we're lucky— get veterans off the streets. we're we're lucky and- get veterans off the streets. we're we're lucky and i- get veterans off the streets. we're we're lucky and i have not been paid to say this . i promise been paid to say this. i promise you, with johnny mercer as the minister for veterans affairs. johnny mercer served in the british army, has done tours in afghan sistan and is absolutely passionately committed to, as he says in his vision statement, making this country the best place for a veteran to live. so johnny mercer is taking forward all sorts of agendas. he's got a veterans strategy . we've got veterans strategy. we've got some action points. we in the charities like safra are working with him. and i think that's exactly the way forward and what we'll always have is a fusion of

government money such as this £8 million and charity money. and as we speak , tens of thousands as we speak, tens of thousands of people are pounding their way round the streets of london doing the marathon ssafa has 100 people. they should raise nearly £200,000 for our charity this afternoon . that's humbling. now, afternoon. that's humbling. now, afternoon. that's humbling. now, a lot of our a lot of our viewers are concerned about this issue of how we treat our veterans. they don't always tettewe— veterans. they don't always believe that— they don't always believe that they're treated wett— believe that they're treated wett enowgn— believe that they're treated well enough and that they should note— well enough and that they should note gnontw— well enough and that they should have priority when— well enough and that they should have priority when it comes to tntngs— have priority when it comes to tntngs ttte— have priority when it comes to things like housing. i don't wtsn— things like housing. i don't wtsn to— things like housing. i don't wtsn to pick— things like housing. i don't wish to pick groups against one onotnen— wish to pick groups against one onotnen tnt— wish to pick groups against one onotnen twt o— wish to pick groups against one another, but a lot— wish to pick groups against one another, but a lot people another, but a lot of people toot— another, but a lot of people toot ot— another, but a lot of people toot at we— another, but a lot of people look at the amount of money tnot-s— look at the amount of money tnot-s tetng— look at the amount of money that's being spent on accommodating seekers, accommodating asylum seekers, for accommodating asylum seekers, tot exempte— accommodating asylum seekers, tot example ,— accommodating asylum seekers, tot eoongte , ont— accommodating asylum seekers, for example , and then they look for example, and then they look at tnts— for example, and then they look at tnts 8— for example, and then they look at this 8 million— for example, and then they look at this 8 million going to nonetess— at this 8 million going to homeless veterans and they think , hm...— homeless veterans and they think , nnn, ts— homeless veterans and they think ,nnn, ts tnot— homeless veterans and they think , hmm, is that fair— homeless veterans and they think , hmm, is that fair ?_ homeless veterans and they think , hmm, is that fair ? it's a very , hmm, is that fair? it's a very tott— , hmm, is that fair? it's a very ton gwestton— , hmm, is that fair? it's a very fair question to— , hmm, is that fair? it's a very fair question to ask . "tzrtz; fair question to ask. there's a tttm— fair question to ask. there's a firm albie the government have got something called the armed forces covenant that says no disadvantage to those in the

military and veterans . that is military and veterans. that is good. and for charities like ssafa, we go back to government and challenge them. if we think they're letting our people down. um yeah, we'd love more money or any charity . any organisation any charity. any organisation would love more money. but by working together with government ssafa we go out onto the front line, come to these veterans, part of the challenge is the veterans actually themselves don't step forward and ask for help. and when you see veterans on the street, two often they're too proud . and one of my pleas too proud. and one of my pleas too proud. and one of my pleas to anybody listening to your programme this afternoon is to veterans and their families. if you need some help , don't wait you need some help, don't wait till you're homeless on the street. we are for here you. we are here to honour and recognise your service for you raise a very interesting point there that i'm sure people have thought about before, but that element of feeling to proud to get help, you've served for your

country in the armed forces and then you find yourself back in normal life and unable to cope for one reason or another, unable to house yourself and unable to house yourself and unable to house yourself and unable to earn enough money to keep a decent lifestyle . keep a decent lifestyle. veterans who return to keep a decent lifestyle. - veterans who return to ordinary life veterans who return to ordinary ttte .— veterans who return to ordinary ttte . wnot— veterans who return to ordinary life . what kind— veterans who return to ordinary life . what kind of— veterans who return to ordinary life . what kind of difficulties life. what kind of difficulties tnew— life. what kind of difficulties can they have— life. what kind of difficulties can they have in_ life. what kind of difficulties can they have in terms of getttng— can they have in terms of getttng jobs?— can they have in terms of getting jobs? is there the issue of getting jobs? is there the issue ot tewne— getting jobs? is there the issue ot tee e— getting jobs? is there the issue of trauma ? is— getting jobs? is there the issue of trauma ? is there the issue of of trauma? is there the issue of nentet— of trauma? is there the issue of mental health,— of trauma? is there the issue of mental health, substance abuse? wnet— mental health, substance abuse? wnet ee— mental health, substance abuse? wnet tne— mental health, substance abuse? what are the reasons that you tne— what are the reasons that you tne nost— what are the reasons that you see the most for— what are the reasons that you see the most for veterans ending up nonetess— see the most for veterans ending up nonetesse — see the most for veterans ending up homeless ? so— see the most for veterans ending up homeless ? c 0131 up homeless? so it's a great question. with many challenges to it. give or take, 15,000 people leave the armed forces each year and almost all of them are better for their service . are better for their service. they've got values, they've got standards , they've got skills. standards, they've got skills. and most of them go into really successful employment. and i would say to employers , veterans would say to employers, veterans are an asset and you should embrace them . but some don't

embrace them. but some don't understand how to live their lives while they've been in the military, notwithstanding, they've done extraordinary things . they've been clothed, things. they've been clothed, they've been housed, they've been and civvy street is an been fed and civvy street is an auen been fed and civvy street is an alien place. so so firstly, defence does some work to help. they have something called the career transition partnership . career transition partnership. but in for the armed forces charity , we run a mentoring charity, we run a mentoring scheme to help those who just don't understand and life help them get that step up and move forward with their lives. so and it's a multifaceted challenge. some of them have got mental health issues. some of them have got debt. it's bringing it together and helping them thrive . kyiv in our society, once they've served and presumable albie, you also have to help with the families. a lot of people with the families. a lot of geogte wo-wne— with the families. a lot of people who've been- c a lot of people who've been in the armed tones— people who've been in the armed tones newe— people who've been in the armed forces have families, children , forces have families, children, tegentents— forces have families, children, dependents, which makes that's a nwge— dependents, which makes that's a nwge eont— dependents, which makes that's a nwge eont ot— dependents, which makes that's a huge amount of pressure for someone who's— huge amount of pressure for someone who's coming out of the

etnet— someone who's coming out of the ennet tones— someone who's coming out of the ennet tone new— someone who's coming out of the armed forces may have been in in twe— armed forces may have been in in ttwe sonnet— armed forces may have been in in ttwe sonnet new— armed forces may have been in in live combat may have suffered tee— live combat may have suffered tee tn— live combat may have suffered trauma in one— live combat may have suffered trauma in one way— live combat may have suffered trauma in one way or another. tt-s— trauma in one way or another. we e— trauma in one way or another. we e tt-s— trauma in one way or another. it's a it's another— trauma in one way or another. it's a it's another really- it's a it's another really important point. so safir was set up in 1885 to look after families left behind when troops went overseas and our founder created the soldiers and sailors families association . and families association. and families association. and families 138 years on, continued to be at the heart of the charity and military families face huge trauma because, for example , when i went overseas on example, when i went overseas on operational tours to iraq to the balkans and other places , my balkans and other places, my wife was left behind . she was wife was left behind. she was looking after the house. our children, and had all the worry . and the stress on families is extraordinary. there are also dislocated from their own family networks and things, so supporting families is right at the heart of what ssafa does. 138 years on, from our foundation and making sure those

families also thrive is absolutely fundamental. it's so critical and you make such a good point . well, it sounds like good point. well, it sounds like you to— good point. well, it sounds like you do fantastic— good point. well, it sounds like you do fantastic and— g: well, it sounds like you do fantastic and important ent— you do fantastic and important and essential— you do fantastic and important and essential work for veterans ent— and essential work for veterans ent tnetn— and essential work for veterans and their families— and essential work for veterans and their families besides from we.— and their families besides from tnts. ttet-s— and their families besides from this. that's all— and their families besides from this. that's all we— and their families besides from this. that's all we have time ton.— this. that's all we have time ton. tntnettw— this. that's all we have time for. actually, thank you very neon— for. actually, thank you very much indeed— for. actually, thank you very much indeed for— for. actually, thank you very much indeed for your for your ttne. — much indeed for your for your time. lieutenant— much indeed for your for your time. lieutenant general, sir antnew— time. lieutenant general, sir antnew onegow.— time. lieutenant general, sir andrew gregory. i was about to est— andrew gregory. i was about to est-enotnen— andrew gregory. i was about to ask another question, but ask you another question, but twe— ask you another question, but te—we- ask you another question, but te—we ene- ask you another question, but. i've—we are moving i've been told no, we are moving on. i've been told no, we are moving tnent— i've been told no, we are moving tnent wow— i've been told no, we are moving on. thank you very— i've been told no, we are moving on. thank you very much indeed for on. thank you very much indeed ton wow— on. thank you very much indeed ton wow-on— on. thank you very much indeed for your-on that— on. thank you very much indeed for your on that important for your time on that important sung-eet.— for your time on that important subject-london- subject. now, the london mayor, sette— subject. now, the london mayor, sadiq_trafalgar- sadiq khan, is at trafalgar sgwene— sadiq khan, is at trafalgar square celebrate saint square to celebrate saint neonge-s— square to celebrate saint oeonge-s dav-— square to celebrate saint george's day. gb news national nenonen— george's day. gb news national negonen newt— george's day. gb news national reporter paul hawkins spoke to mm— reporter paul hawkins spoke to ntn et— reporter paul hawkins spoke to ntn et tne— reporter paul hawkins spoke to him at the event— reporter paul hawkins spoke to him at the event a little eentten— him at the event a little eentten ,— him at the event a little earlier , asked - him at the event a little earlier , asked him for his earlier, asked him for his neeetton— earlier, asked him for his reaction to— earlier, asked him for his reaction to former shadow home seonetew— reaction to former shadow home secretary—diane- reaction to former shadow home secretary diane abbott secretary labour mp diane abbott . swsnenston— secretary labour mp diane abbott . suspension-the— secretary labour mp diane abbott . suspension the party. . suspension from the party. i was sickened— . suspension from the party. i was sickened to _ . suspension from the party. i was sickened to read- . suspension from the party. i was sickened to read the- . suspension from the party. i was sickened to read the letter that was published in today's observer from diane abbott. her comments are it ' her comments are unacceptable to ttntntsn— comments are unacceptable to ttntntsn tne— comments are unacceptable to diminish the racism, the anti—semitism that jewish people teee— anti—semitism that jewish people teee tott— anti—semitism that jewish people face both today— anti—semitism that jewish people face both today and over westentew— face both today and over yesterday beggars belief . wig yesterday beggars belief. every year— yesterday beggars belief. every

ween tn— yesterday beggars belief. every ween tn own— yesterday beggars belief. every year in our great— yesterday beggars belief. every year in our great country , year in our great country, unfortunately, there are more than 1000 reports of anti—semitic . am i? last monday anti—semitic. am i? last monday was a yom hashoah event. will be commemorated and— tin/t“ " will be commemorated and remembered . 3:1" " will be commemorated and remembered . the commemorated and remembered. the 6 commemorated and remembered. the e ntttton— commemorated and remembered. the e ntttton jewish— commemorated and remembered. the 6 million jewish men,— commemorated and remembered. the 6 million jewish men, women and entttnen— 6 million jewish men, women and ontttnen wno— 6 million jewish men, women and children who lost— 6 million jewish men, women and children who lost their lives in the holocaust— children who lost their lives in the holocaust . _ children who lost their lives in the holocaust . i— children who lost their lives in the holocaust . 3: the holocaust. i was indeed with holocaust survivors as diane abbott's comments are unacceptable to pretty much everyone who read it was thinking what was she thinking? you know diane abbott pretty wett— you know diane abbott pretty wett. newe— you know diane abbott pretty wett. newe wow— you know diane abbott pretty well. have you spoken to her totewe— well. have you spoken to her totewe-wow— well. have you spoken to her today?-you even- well. have you spoken to her today? you even begin to try today? can you even begin to try ent—sne- today? can you even begin to try ent—sne wes- today? can you even begin to tryi and—she was trying and work out what she was trying to-t-n— and work out what she was trying to-t-n too— and work out what she was trying to-t-n too engnw - and work out what she was trying to-t-n too engnw t- and work out what she was trying to i'm too angry. to say? i'm too angry. i just i test— to say? i'm too angry. i just i test t— to say? i'm too angry. i just i test t ton-t— to say? i'm too angry. i just i just i don't understand and how anybody can think that how anybody can think that how anybody could say that . but even anybody could say that. but even worse, write a letter— anybody could say that. but even worse, write a letter to— anybody could say that. but even worse, write a letter to the- worse, write a letter to the onsewen— worse, write a letter to the onsenen to— worse, write a letter to the observer to publish that. c observer to publish that. it's ntgtt— observer to publish that. it's ntgnt. she-s— observer to publish that. it's right. she's apologised and the labour party has done the right thing to suspend her beggars belief. but can she still come teet— belief. but can she still come test tnon — belief. but can she still come back from this— but can she still come back from this because she's teen— back from this because she's been suspended? do you think tnet— been suspended? do you think tnet sne— been suspended? do you think that she needs— been suspended? do you think that she needs to— been suspended? do you think that she needs to be, you know, expelled— that she needs to be, you know, eogettet tnon — that she needs to be, you know, expelled from the— that she needs to be, you know, expelled from the party or in tne— expelled from the party or in tne see— expelled from the party or in the same-jeremy- expelled from the party or in the same jeremy corbyn has the same way jeremy corbyn has teen— the same way jeremy corbyn has teen-tne— the same way jeremy corbyn has teen-tne wne— the same way jeremy corbyn has been the nec should stop been maybe the nec should stop her been maybe the nec should stop ten-stenttng— been maybe the nec should stop her-standing in_ been maybe the nec should stop her standing in next year's her from standing in next year's

genenet—goti general election? well i've got to-tne— general election? well i've got to _the-process- general election? well i've goti to _the-process that to respect the due process that wit— to respect the due process that wttt-tottow— to respect the due process that will follow because will have to follow because sne-s— will have to follow because she's suspended will have to follow because- she's-suspended-but she's been suspended now. but i test— she's been suspended now. but i test ton-t— she's been suspended now. but i just don't understand how you can diminish— just don't understand how you can diminish what's happened to jewish— can diminish what's happened to tewtsn geogte— can diminish what's happened to jewish people today and in onewows— jewish people today and in previous decades since arguably entt—senttn— previous decades since arguably entt—senttn ,— previous decades since arguably anti—semitic , the— previous decades since arguably anti—semitic , the oldest form of anti—semitic, the oldest form of netnet— anti—semitic, the oldest form of netnet tnene— anti—semitic, the oldest form of hatred there is,— anti—semitic, the oldest form of hatred there is, there needs to be en— hatred there is, there needs to be an investigation. i don't went— be an investigation. i don't went to— be an investigation. i don't want to inadvertent prejudice tnet— want to inadvertent prejudice tnet .— want to inadvertent prejudice tnet . net— want to inadvertent prejudice that. but her— want to inadvertent prejudice that. but her comments are unacceptable— that. but her comments are unacceptable .— that. but her comments are unacceptable . well, there we go. unacceptable. well, there we go. stewe— unacceptable. well, there we go. stove nten— unacceptable. well, there we go. steve khan there— unacceptable. well, there we go. steve khan there distancing- steve khan there distancing himself from diane abbott's comments. you are watching and ttstentng— comments. you are watching and ttstentng to— comments. you are watching and ttstentng to en— comments. you are watching and listening to gb news— f you are watching and listening to gb news sunday with me, listening to gb news sunday with tntn— listening to gb news sunday with emily centen— listening to gb news sunday with me, emily carver. do not go enwwtene— me, emily carver. do not go anywhere. nana— me, emily carver. do not go anywhere. nana is up next. we'll be stentng— anywhere. nana is up next. we'll be starting actually with that 3 pm— be starting actually with that 3 p-m- eten.— be starting actually with that 3 p-m- eten. net— be starting actually with that 3 pm. alert. but first, let's p.m. alert. but first, let's tete— p.m. alert. but first, let's tete e— p.m. alert. but first, let's take a look— p.m. alert. but first, let's take a look at— p.m. alert. but first, let's take a look at the weather with gonetnen. — take a look at the weather with tonetnen. — take a look at the weather with jonathan. hello— take a look at the weather with jonathan. c"t:i;”t:j; take a look at the weather with jonathan. hello there. i'm jonathan. hello there. i'm jonathan vautrey here with your latest weather update from the met office. temperatures are going to be below the seasonal average for all of us over the next few days, all because we've got northerly winds that are starting feed in some starting to feed in some much colder from arctic colder air from the arctic spreading its way across all areas the uk as we head into areas of the uk as we head into the new working week. these

northerly quite northerly winds have been quite strong across scotland throughout sunday and we'll continue to some gales into continue to see some gales into the and during the the evening and during the overnight and will overnight period and that will bnng overnight period and that will bring to the higher bring some snow to the higher ground sleet to ground areas, even sleet to lower levels. so that cold air pushes elsewhere. showers pushes in elsewhere. the showers we've seen throughout today will gradually clear their way off, but we'll see further rain across ireland across northern ireland underneath the clearer underneath some of the clearer spells have there is the spells we do have there is the potential frost, potential for a patchy frost, particularly across of particularly across areas of scotland, elsewhere, towns and cities around 4 to 6 c, some brightness first thing. but it is going to be cloudy, particularly for wales, into southwest england as this rain moves in and the cloud building into central and southern areas of throughout the day, of england throughout the day, some spells developing for some sunny spells developing for the half of the uk. the northern half of the uk. still scattering of still with a scattering of showers, across showers, particularly across eastern coastal where they eastern coastal areas where they could wintry, pushing could still be wintry, pushing in brisk breeze. and in on quite a brisk breeze. and if you're exposed to that wind throughout the day, it will be feeling to freezing . feeling closer to freezing. those inland will tend those showers inland will tend to ease off into monday evening , still persisting across some northern areas the northern coastal areas and the

cloud southern half cloud across the southern half of uk will also begin to of the uk will also begin to push as well . push its way off as well. underneath some of those clearer intervals that develop, though, it going be quite a cold it is going to be quite a cold night on monday the risk of night on monday with the risk of more a widespread so more of a widespread frost. so you care of some you just take care of some tender plants . but because of tender plants. but because of the clear spells that are developing, good developing, there will be a good amount sunshine as we move amount of sunshine as we move into tuesday. it's looking into tuesday. and it's looking to much thanks this to be much drier thanks to this ridge high pressure that's ridge of high pressure that's built going be built in. it's only going to be transient, though, we've transient, though, because we've got fronts and got further weather fronts and low pressure that wants to move in for middle part of the in for the middle part of the week. there risk that week. so there is the risk that week. so there is the risk that we some further spells of we see some further spells of rain wednesday rain towards wednesday and thursday temperatures thursday, but our temperatures should climb up should slowly begin to climb up a bit more as well by by a little bit more as well by by you've probably seen politicians interviewed a thousand times, but we do it differently . we but we do it differently. we find out who they t:t:::t c t: we find out who they really are. we ton-t— find out who they really are. we ton-t snout,— find out who they really are. we don't shout, we— find out who they really are. we don't shout, we chat and nonetwtw— don't shout, we chat and nogetwtw we— don't shout, we chat and hopefully we bring a bit of ttgnt— hopefully we bring a bit of ttgnt ,— hopefully we bring a bit of ttgnt , not— hopefully we bring a bit of light , not just— hopefully we bring a bit of light, not just heat. “j t: light, not just heat. did you know— light, not just heat. did you know nete— light, not just heat. did you know kate moss? light, not just heat. “j t: c apparently. light, not just heat. did you- know kate moss? apparently. do you have a pair of jeans or a pair of jeans? of course i did. what would i do with them? my

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