users did not receive phone users did not receive today-s— phone users did not receive today's emergency test alert . at today's emergency test alert. at 3 today's emergency test alert. at a pm,— today's emergency test alert. at a pm, most— today's emergency test alert. at 3 pm, most people received a meeeeee— 3 pm, most people received a message on their— 3 pm, most people received a message on their home screen elong— message on their home screen along wm.— message on their home screen along with e— message on their home screen along with a sound and vibration for up— along with a sound and vibration for up ee— along with a sound and vibration for up to ten— along with a sound and vibration for up to ten seconds. however users on some networks, including— users on some networks, including three, did not. nee-e— including three, did not. there's also— including three, did not. there's also been reports that some have not— there's also been reports that some have not been able to make or eeue— some have not been able to make or receive calls since— some have not been able to make or receive calls since that test. — or receive calls since that eeee. deputy— or receive calls since that test. deputy prime minister ouver— test. deputy prime minister oliver dowden_ test. deputy prime minister oliver dowden says the alert ceme— oliver dowden says the alert eeute eave— oliver dowden says the alert could save people's lives in future— could save people's lives in future .— could save people's lives in future . u-e— could save people's lives in future . it's the— could save people's lives in future . it's the case that this future. it's the case that this hee— future. it's the case that this has been— future. it's the case that this has been developed with the national— has been developed with the national cyber— has been developed with the national cyber security centre, which— national cyber security centre, which ferme— national cyber security centre, which forms part— national cyber security centre, which forms part of gchq. “mi; which forms part of gchq. there um— which forms part of gchq. there will be— which forms part of gchq. there will be e— which forms part of gchq. there will be a very— which forms part of gchq. there will be a very strict— which forms part of gchq. there will be a very strict procedures in place for its authorisation and it will only be used in a situation where your viewers lives are in danger. i'm determined that there is a very high bar for the usage of this. the prime minister has hailed the teete— the prime minister has hailed the brave efforts— the prime minister has hailed the brave efforts of the uk's emet— the brave efforts of the uk's armed forces— the brave efforts of the uk's armed forces after they helped ettttet— armed forces after they helped british diplomats— armed forces after they helped british diplomats and their tumtttee— british diplomats and their families to— british diplomats and their families to escape fighting in sud...— families to escape fighting in sutuu. they— families to escape fighting in

sudan. they carried out complex, a eemptex— sudan. they carried out complex, a complex mission— sudan. they carried out complex, a complex mission in the capital khartoum,— a complex mission in the capital khartoum, alongside other utttee— khartoum, alongside other allies, hundreds of civilians tute— allies, hundreds of civilians teve ttet— allies, hundreds of civilians have died in— allies, hundreds of civilians have died in the violent eeutttet— have died in the violent conflict between the sudanese army— conflict between the sudanese army eut— conflict between the sudanese army tut u— conflict between the sudanese army and a rival— conflict between the sudanese army and a rival paramilitary group— army and a rival paramilitary group .— army and a rival paramilitary group . tetetgu— army and a rival paramilitary group . foreign secretary james group. foreign secretary james ctevettu— group. foreign secretary james cteuetty eute— group. foreign secretary james cleverly says the— group. foreign secretary james cleverly says the government is eeuttuutug— cleverly says the government is eeuttuutue te— cleverly says the government is continuing to ensure the safety of continuing to ensure the safety et ettttet— continuing to ensure the safety of british nationals who remain in of british nationals who remain tn the— of british nationals who remain tn the country— of british nationals who remain tn the country. — of british nationals who remain in the country . �*ftt�*tz; " in the country. we have taken the decision to temporarily close the embassy and to relocate our embassy staff. that gives us a the best opportunity to project our diplomatic support back into sudan . but we support back into sudan. but we remain absolutely committed to support british nationals in sudan. support british nationals in sudan . we will do so in close sudan. we will do so in close coordination action with our international partners . but the international partners. but the best thing that we can do to support british nationals and indeed everyone in sudan is pushed. the generals involved in this conflict , to bring it to an this conflict, to bring it to an end and that will remain the priority of our diplomatic focus in the region . suella braverman

in the region. suella braverman has been criticised by an algerian asylum seeker during an extinction rebellion protest outside the home office. 24 year old moon, who crossed- outside the home office. 24 year old moon, who crossed the- old moon, who crossed the tugttet— old moon, who crossed the english channel in a small boat in english channel in a small boat tu december,— english channel in a small boat in december, said— english channel in a small boat in december, said no human is ttteeet— in december, said no human is illegal. whilst— in december, said no human is illegal. whilst protesters eteutet— illegal. whilst protesters chanted refugees are welcome tee.— chanted refugees are welcome here. the— chanted refugees are welcome here. the comments come after the home— here. the comments come after the home secretary said it's etuetet— the home secretary said it's crucial that— the home secretary said it's crucial that the _ the home secretary said it's crucial that the government has the power— crucial that the government has the power to— crucial that the government has the power to deport migrants uttteut— the power to deport migrants without being— the power to deport migrants without being blocked by the turepeuu— without being blocked by the european court— without being blocked by the european court of human rights . european court of human rights. 11 european court of human rights. tr smatt— european court of human rights. 11 small boats— european court of human rights. 11 small boats carrying nearly too— 11 small boats carrying nearly too peepte— 11 small boats carrying nearly 500 people made the dangerous ereeetue— 500 people made the dangerous crossing yesterday— 500 people made the dangerous crossing yesterday . diane abbott crossing yesterday. diane abbott has crossing yesterday. diane abbott true teen— crossing yesterday. diane abbott has been suspended as a labour mp has been suspended as a labour rte pending— has been suspended as a labour rte peuttug err— has been suspended as a labour mp pending an investigation utter— mp pending an investigation utter ete— mp pending an investigation after she claimed that jewish peepte— after she claimed that jewish peepte — after she claimed that jewish peepte ret— after she claimed that jewish people are not subject to racism . ru— people are not subject to racism . ru err— people are not subject to racism . m an uttere— people are not subject to racism . in an article for— people are not subject to racism . in an article for the observer newspaper,— . in an article for the observer newspaper, the — . in an article for the observer newspaper, the former shadow ueuttt— newspaper, the former shadow health secretary— newspaper, the former shadow health secretary said jewish peepte— health secretary said jewish people experienced prejudice ute— people experienced prejudice ttte uret— people experienced prejudice like irish or— people experienced prejudice like irish or red— people experienced prejudice like irish or red headed people, but like irish or red headed people, tut ret— like irish or red headed people, tut not eat— like irish or red headed people, but not real racism. she has stree— but not real racism. she has since withdrawn— but not real racism. she has since withdrawn the remarks and upetegteet— since withdrawn the remarks and upetegteet ter— since withdrawn the remarks and apologised for any— since withdrawn the remarks and apologised for any offence euueet — apologised for any offence caused. however, the labour party— caused. however, the labour tutu tee—

caused. however, the labour party has called— caused. however, the labour party has called the comments teeutu— party has called the comments deeply offensive— party has called the comments deeply offensive and wrong . and deeply offensive and wrong. and two new— deeply offensive and wrong. and two new pictures— deeply offensive and wrong. and two new pictures of prince louis tute— two new pictures of prince louis true teen— two new pictures of prince louis have been published as he celebrates— have been published as he celebrates his— have been published as he celebrates his fifth birthday teeter— celebrates his fifth birthday tetuu .— celebrates his fifth birthday today . ue-e— celebrates his fifth birthday today . he's been photographed today. he's been photographed being— today. he's been photographed tetug puetet— today. he's been photographed being pushed in— today. he's been photographed being pushed in a wheelbarrow by his being pushed in a wheelbarrow by rte mum— being pushed in a wheelbarrow by rte .— being pushed in a wheelbarrow by his mum . louis— being pushed in a wheelbarrow by his mum . louis is— being pushed in a wheelbarrow by his mum . louis is expected to his mum. louis is expected to accompany— his mum. louis is expected to accompany rte— his mum. louis is expected to accompany his siblings in the prececctcu— accompany his siblings in the procession from _ accompany his siblings in the procession from westminster abbey— procession from westminster abbey turret— procession from westminster abbey during the king's coronation— abbey during the king's coronation next month . a it's coronation next month. a it's prctuttu— coronation next month. a it's probably tucked— coronation next month. a it's probably tucked up in bed right on tv— probably tucked up in bed right on tv ,— probably tucked up in bed right now on tv , online on dab+ radio now on tv, online on dab+ radio eut— now on tv, online on dab+ radio cut cu— now on tv, online on dab+ radio cut or turre— now on tv, online on dab+ radio cut or turre tu— now on tv, online on dab+ radio and on tune in to— now on tv, online on dab+ radio and on tune in to this is gb ueuc. — and on tune in to this is gb news. new— and on tune in to this is gb news. now let's— and on tune in to this is gb news. now let's get back to . mark my mark- my thanks mert- my thanks to mert— my thanks to ray addison, who's tect— my thanks to ray addison, who's tact tu— my thanks to ray addison, who's tact tr err— my thanks to ray addison, who's back in an hour's— my thanks to ray addison, who's back in an hour's time. my thanks to ray addison, who's back in an hour's time . f back in an hour's time. welcome to t— back in an hour's time. welcome to u very— back in an hour's time. welcome to u very busy— back in an hour's time. welcome to a very busy mark dolan tonight night. in my big opinion, following the departure of dominic raab will home secretary suella braverman be next her great crime wanting to

stop the boats. it's my view that if she goes rishi sunak will lose the next election in the big story following her horrific comments underplaying anti—semitism and racism towards other minority groups, should diane abbott be expelled from the labour party.7 i'll be speaking to the editor of the jewish chronicle and the political activist who ran against jeremy corbyn in islington . my mark meets guest islington. my mark meets guest is former tory mp under margaret thatcher. harvey proctor, a man falsely accused of murder during a disastrous police probe into claims of a vip ring in westminster. it was all fantasy. well this dreadful lie saw him lose his job, his house and his livelihood. he tells me his incredible and shocking story. shortly and he's told my team nothing is off the table. you won't want to miss harvey proctor before ten in the next hourin proctor before ten in the next hour in my take at ten, joe

biden. will this week announce trut— biden. will this week announce that re— biden. will this week announce that we were-t — biden. will this week announce that he wants. wait— 3" will this week announce that he wants. wait for it ureter— that he wants. wait for it another four— that he wants. wait for it another four years in the white house — another four years in the white ucue mav— another four years in the white ucue rrcv cct— another four years in the white house. may god help us. my full reccttcu— house. may god help us. my full reccttcu ct— house. may god help us. my full reaction at ten. _ house. may god help us. my full reaction at ten. my— house. may god help us. my full reaction at ten. my newsmaker tcutett— reaction at ten. my newsmaker tcutett te— reaction at ten. my newsmaker tonight is politics— reaction at ten. my newsmaker tonight is politics legend ann widdecombe._ tonight is politics legend ann widdecombe. i'll be asking ann whether— widdecombe. i'll be asking ann wtetter tree— widdecombe. i'll be asking ann whether the english should be more patriotic— whether the english should be more patriotic . _ whether the english should be more patriotic . ' r: whether the english should be more patriotic . “r: whether the english should be more patriotic . 'r: rzprzg more patriotic. and with every mobile phone having received an alert at 3 pm. today, or at least most mobile phones, should the government stay out of our lives .7 mark dolan tonight is the lives? mark dolan tonight is the home of the papers with tomorrow's front pages from 1030 with three top pundits who haven't been told what to say and who don't follow the script. tonight, polly toynbee albie amankona and jo—anne nadler tonight , amankona and jo—anne nadler tonight, i'll be asking the punst tonight, i'll be asking the pundits as we celebrate saint george's day. is it time for an tuettct— george's day. is it time for an english parliament?- lug; that is it time for an english parliament? should all gcmtttug— english parliament? should all gcmtttwg ute— english parliament? should all gambling ads be— english parliament? should all gambling ads be banned ? and gambling ads be banned? and wcutt— gambling ads be banned? and wcutt vcu— gambling ads be banned? and would you ever— gambling ads be banned? and would you ever tell a friend or a would you ever tell a friend or c tcvet— would you ever tell a friend or c tcvet ce— would you ever tell a friend or a loved one if— would you ever tell a friend or a loved one if they— would you ever tell a friend or a loved one if they were being created— a loved one if they were being cheated cue— a loved one if they were being cheated on? plus,— a loved one if they were being cheated on? plus, your emails, eccectcttv— cheated on? plus, your emails, eccectcttv tte — cheated on? plus, your emails, especially the spicy ones. mark

gb especially the spicy ones. mark ce newc— especially the spicy ones. mark ct wewc wt.— especially the spicy ones. mark gb news .uk. and— especially the spicy ones. mark gb news .uk. and this show has a ectteu— gb news .uk. and this show has a gctteu tute— gb news .uk. and this show has a gcttew rute. we— gb news .uk. and this show has a golden rule. we don't do boring. not golden rule. we don't do boring. wct cu— golden rule. we don't do boring. wct cu rev— golden rule. we don't do boring. not on my watch. _ golden rule. we don't do boring. not on my watch. i— golden rule. we don't do boring. not on my watch. i just won't reve— not on my watch. i just won't have rt.— not on my watch. i just won't have t. rte— not on my watch. i just won't have it. it's the— not on my watch. i just won't have it. it's the end of the weekend— have it. it's the end of the weekend .— have it. it's the end of the weekend , so— have it. it's the end of the weekend , so let's go out with weekend, so let's go out with a cure,— weekend, so let's go out with a bangr ctctt— weekend, so let's go out with a bang, shall we? _ weekend, so let's go out with a bang, shall we? 'r: weekend, so let's go out with a bang, shall we? r: weekend, so let's go out with a bang, shall we? ' r: bang, shall we? and we start with my big opinion . now, with my big opinion. now, whether or not he's really guilty of outrageous bullying . guilty of outrageous bullying. the departure of dominic raab as ructrce— the departure of dominic raab as justice secretary— the departure of dominic raab as justice secretary and deputy turre— justice secretary and deputy prime minister— justice secretary and deputy prime minister is a scalp for ttcce— prime minister is a scalp for ttcce ctvtt— prime minister is a scalp for those civil servants less than teen— those civil servants less than teen cu— those civil servants less than teen cn tne— those civil servants less than keen on the government's ccttttcct— keen on the government's political agenda, having drawn ttccct— political agenda, having drawn ttcct, rte— political agenda, having drawn blood, it's pretty— political agenda, having drawn blood, it's pretty clear who tnev— blood, it's pretty clear who tnev — blood, it's pretty clear who they are. hostile media and the ctvtt— they are. hostile media and the civil servants— they are. hostile media and the civil servants will— they are. hostile media and the civil servants will be setting tnetr— civil servants will be setting tnetr stunte— civil servants will be setting their sights on— civil servants will be setting their sights on next. the tecrtecc— their sights on next. the fearless and— their sights on next. the fearless and feisty home secretary,— fearless and feisty home secretary, suella braverman , who secretary, suella braverman, who has secretary, suella braverman, who nee ctctet— secretary, suella braverman, who has staked her— secretary, suella braverman, who has staked her reputation and tutt— has staked her reputation and butt ner— has staked her reputation and built her entire— has staked her reputation and built her entire political brand crcunt— built her entire political brand around one policy stop the boats now . sometimes— around one policy stop the boats now . sometimes her around one policy stop the boats now. sometimes her language can be e— now. sometimes her language can be e tut— now. sometimes her language can be e ttt ctuncv— now. sometimes her language can be a bit clumsy and,— now. sometimes her language can be a bit clumsy and, in my view, neettecctv— be a bit clumsy and, in my view, needlessly inflame— be a bit clumsy and, in my view, needlessly inflame oratory. but

ccttttcc— needlessly inflame oratory. but ccttttcc te— needlessly inflame oratory. but politics is all— needlessly inflame oratory. but politics is all about messaging unt— politics is all about messaging end we— politics is all about messaging and the message— politics is all about messaging and the message from braverman is and the message from braverman tc retrecntne— and the message from braverman tc retrecntng .— and the message from braverman is refreshing , clear— and the message from braverman is refreshing , clear in a world is refreshing, clear in a world of is refreshing, clear in a world ct ccttttcc— is refreshing, clear in a world of politics, those— is refreshing, clear in a world of politics, those who are nccctect— of politics, those who are happiest resting their backsides on happiest resting their backsides cn tne— happiest resting their backsides cn tne fence— happiest resting their backsides on the fence suella braverman rt— on the fence suella braverman tt cc— on the fence suella braverman tt cc ner— on the fence suella braverman sees it as her political raison t-etre— sees it as her political raison t-etre tc— sees it as her political raison d'etre to tackle— sees it as her political raison d'etre to tackle the illegal ntgrcnt— d'etre to tackle the illegal migrant crossings. and although she migrant crossings. and although cne nev— migrant crossings. and although cne new nct— migrant crossings. and although she may not speak in the measured tone,- she may not speak in the measured tone, you'd expect from a measured tone, you'd expect from e tcc— measured tone, you'd expect from e tcc tewver— measured tone, you'd expect from e tcc tewver ent— measured tone, you'd expect from a top lawyer and she is a top tewven— a top lawyer and she is a top lawyerr ene— a top lawyer and she is a top lawyer, she knows exactly what ene-c— lawyer, she knows exactly what ene-c tctne. — lawyer, she knows exactly what she's doing. she— lawyer, she knows exactly what she's doing. she knows the cutttc— she's doing. she knows the cutttc ee— she's doing. she knows the public are angry and have had encuen— public are angry and have had encuen .— public are angry and have had encugn . ant— public are angry and have had enough . and this— public are angry and have had enough . and this issue goes enough. and this issue goes tevcnt— enough. and this issue goes tevcnt ner— enough. and this issue goes beyond her own— enough. and this issue goes beyond her own position. it ccutt— beyond her own position. it ccutt seet— beyond her own position. it could seal rishi— beyond her own position. it could seal rishi sunaks fate, tcc— could seal rishi sunaks fate, tcc. ant— could seal rishi sunaks fate, tcc. ant tne— could seal rishi sunaks fate, too. and the outcome of the next etecttcn— too. and the outcome of the next etecttcn .— too. and the outcome of the next election . writing— too. and the outcome of the next election . writing in— too. and the outcome of the next election . writing in this election. writing in this weekend-c— election. writing in this weekend's telegraph , braverman weekend's telegraph, braverman ctenetc— weekend's telegraph, braverman ctenetctnet— weekend's telegraph, braverman signals that she's— weekend's telegraph, braverman signals that she's prepared to tencre— signals that she's prepared to ignore european— signals that she's prepared to ignore european judges to start teccrtettcn— ignore european judges to start deportation flights to rwanda . deportation flights to rwanda. the deportation flights to rwanda. tne ncne— deportation flights to rwanda. the home secretary said proposed ccwere rcr— the home secretary said proposed new powers for ministers to ttereeert— new powers for ministers to disregard card— new powers for ministers to disregard card temporary injunctions— disregard card temporary injunctions by the european ccurt— injunctions by the european ccurt ct— injunctions by the european court of human— injunctions by the european court of human rights were cructet— court of human rights were cructet tc— court of human rights were crucial to delivering what was, tet-e— crucial to delivering what was, ten nct— crucial to delivering what was, let's not forget,— crucial to delivering what was, let's not forget, a— crucial to delivering what was, let's not forget, a manifesto commitment— let's not forget, a manifesto commitment to— let's not forget, a manifesto commitment to tackle this crisis

. rte— commitment to tackle this crisis . tne ttteeet— commitment to tackle this crisis . the illegal migrant crossings tn ny— . the illegal migrant crossings tn nv vtew— . the illegal migrant crossings are, in my view, three things as an economic , national security an economic, national security ent— an economic, national security and humanitarian— an economic, national security and humanitarian disaster. an economic, national security and humanitarian disaster . just and humanitarian disaster. just recenttw— and humanitarian disaster. just recenttv, tt-e— and humanitarian disaster. just recently, it's been— and humanitarian disaster. just recently, it's been revealed tnet— recently, it's been revealed tnet rc— recently, it's been revealed that 19 suspected terrorists neve — that 19 suspected terrorists neve teen— that 19 suspected terrorists have been among those who have nette— have been among those who have nete tnet— have been among those who have made that perilous— have been among those who have made that perilous journey . made that perilous journey. wnere— made that perilous journey. wnere ee— made that perilous journey. where are they— made that perilous journey. where are they now and what are tnetr— where are they now and what are tnetr ctene— where are they now and what are tnetr ctene rcr— where are they now and what are their plans for this— where are they now and what are their plans for this country ? their plans for this country? rte— their plans for this country? we en— their plans for this country? it's an economic— their plans for this country? it's an economic emergency , too, it's an economic emergency, too, as it's an economic emergency, too, ee nterente— it's an economic emergency, too, ee ntgrente ee— it's an economic emergency, too, as migrants are housed in hotels tncecttne— as migrants are housed in hotels tncecttng tncee— as migrants are housed in hotels impacting those communities and ccettne— impacting those communities and ccettne tnc— impacting those communities and costing the british— impacting those communities and costing the british taxpayer a ccct— costing the british taxpayer a ccct tc— costing the british taxpayer a cool £6 million— costing the british taxpayer a cool £6 million a day. and it's a humanitarian— cool £6 million a day. and it's a humanitarian disaster, too, as tncueente— a humanitarian disaster, too, as tncueente every— a humanitarian disaster, too, as thousands every year risk their twee— thousands every year risk their ttvee tn— thousands every year risk their lives in small— thousands every year risk their lives in small boats , enriching lives in small boats, enriching the international— lives in small boats, enriching the international gangster who are the international gangster who newne— the international gangster who are making millions off the back of are making millions off the back ct wnet— are making millions off the back ct wnet te— are making millions off the back of what is effectively human tretttcttne. — of what is effectively human trafficking. those crossing come trcn— trafficking. those crossing come trcn e— trafficking. those crossing come trcn e eete— trafficking. those crossing come from a safe country. france and untr— from a safe country. france and unttt recenttw— from a safe country. france and until recently, many of their nurnert— until recently, many of their number were— until recently, many of their number were young albanian men . number were young albanian men. it's number were young albanian men. we wcrtn— number were young albanian men. it's worth remembering that attente— it's worth remembering that attente te— it's worth remembering that albania is not— it's worth remembering that albania is not a— it's worth remembering that albania is not a war torn nettncte— albania is not a war torn nettncte .— albania is not a war torn hellhole , and- albania is not a war torn hellhole , and they haven't had hellhole, and they haven't had ntttterv— hellhole, and they haven't had military conflict— hellhole, and they haven't had military conflict for a quarter of military conflict for a quarter ct e— military conflict for a quarter ct e centurv. —

military conflict for a quarter of a century. let's be honest, attente— of a century. let's be honest, attente te— of a century. let's be honest, albania is more— of a century. let's be honest, albania is more peaceful than the albania is more peaceful than tne rete— albania is more peaceful than tne rete ct— albania is more peaceful than the isle of wight— albania is more peaceful than the isle of wight . those who do the isle of wight. those who do neve— the isle of wight. those who do neve tnc— the isle of wight. those who do have the money— the isle of wight. those who do have the money to— the isle of wight. those who do have the money to pay these evil cengetere— have the money to pay these evil gengetere wnc— have the money to pay these evil gangsters who advertise their enn— gangsters who advertise their gnn eervtce— gangsters who advertise their grim service on— gangsters who advertise their grim service on tiktok and rneteeren — grim service on tiktok and instagram are— grim service on tiktok and instagram are bankrolling a crtntnet— instagram are bankrolling a criminal business model with ttcct— criminal business model with ttcct cn— criminal business model with ttcct cn rte— criminal business model with blood on its hands. they're also jumping— blood on its hands. they're also jumping tnc— blood on its hands. they're also jumping the queue ahead of many tncueente— jumping the queue ahead of many tncueente ct— jumping the queue ahead of many thousands of people who deserve and thousands of people who deserve ent nuet— thousands of people who deserve ent nuet neve— thousands of people who deserve and must have asylum in this ccuntrw— and must have asylum in this ccuntrv. rt— and must have asylum in this ccuntrv. rt wee— and must have asylum in this country. it was the three words of country. it was the three words ct eet— country. it was the three words ct get twent— country. it was the three words of get brexit done— country. it was the three words of get brexit done which decided the of get brexit done which decided tne utce— of get brexit done which decided the outcome of— of get brexit done which decided the outcome of the— of get brexit done which decided the outcome of the last election ent— the outcome of the last election ent tn— the outcome of the last election ent tn nev— the outcome of the last election ent tn new cr— the outcome of the last election and in may or october of next year,— and in may or october of next vearr tnree— and in may or october of next year, three new— and in may or october of next year, three new ones will be reecnettng— year, three new ones will be reecnettng cn— year, three new ones will be resonating on the doorsteps of nrttetn— resonating on the doorsteps of nrttetn .— resonating on the doorsteps of nrttetn . stcc— resonating on the doorsteps of britain . stop the— resonating on the doorsteps of britain . stop the boats now. britain. stop the boats now. braverman is— britain. stop the boats now. braverman is braver than most . rte— braverman is braver than most . rt-e ny— braverman is braver than most men . it's my view— braverman is braver than most men . it's my view that, as with men. it's my view that, as with wergeret— men. it's my view that, as with margaret thatcher,— men. it's my view that, as with margaret thatcher, braverman wttt— margaret thatcher, braverman wttt crcve— margaret thatcher, braverman wttt crcve vcu— margaret thatcher, braverman will prove you don't have to be cccuter— will prove you don't have to be cccuter tc— will prove you don't have to be cccuter tc wtn— will prove you don't have to be popular to win respect or to win ccwer— popular to win respect or to win ccwer .— popular to win respect or to win ccwer. rneteet— popular to win respect or to win power . instead, tell voters what power. instead, tell voters what vcue— power. instead, tell voters what vcure gctng— power. instead, tell voters what vcure gctng tc— power. instead, tell voters what vcure gctng tc tc— power. instead, tell voters what you're going to do and get on ent— you're going to do and get on end tc— you're going to do and get on end tc tt— you're going to do and get on end tc tt ee— you're going to do and get on and do it as well— you're going to do and get on and do it as well as a rump of ecttvtet— and do it as well as a rump of activist civil— and do it as well as a rump of activist civil servants in the ncne— activist civil servants in the home office _ activist civil servants in the home office who have used noticeboards— home office who have used noticeboards to— home office who have used noticeboards to contradict

gcvernnent— noticeboards to contradict government policy. there are ctentv— government policy. there are ctentv ct— government policy. there are ctentv ct ntgn— government policy. there are plenty of high profile media ttguree— plenty of high profile media figures, including a few famous eccrte— figures, including a few famous sports presenters— figures, including a few famous sports presenters who would love to sports presenters who would love tc eee— sports presenters who would love tc tnc— sports presenters who would love to see the back— sports presenters who would love to see the back of— sports presenters who would love to see the back of braverman tecuee— to see the back of braverman tecuee ene— to see the back of braverman because she is— to see the back of braverman because she is the antithesis of the because she is the antithesis of tne wcrtn— because she is the antithesis of the north london— because she is the antithesis of the north london based political and the north london based political ent nette— the north london based political and media elite— the north london based political and media elite who can afford luxury— and media elite who can afford luxury tettete— and media elite who can afford luxury beliefs like an effective ccen— luxury beliefs like an effective ccen tcrtere— luxury beliefs like an effective open borders policy . why? open borders policy. why? necuee— open borders policy. why? because they— open borders policy. why? because they are financially and in because they are financially and tn crecttcet— because they are financially and in practical terms— because they are financially and in practical terms ,_ because they are financially and in practical terms , shielded in practical terms, shielded trcn— in practical terms, shielded trcn rte— in practical terms, shielded from its consequences . as bravo from its consequences. as bravo crnen-e— from its consequences. as bravo ornene ccetttcn— from its consequences. as bravo oman's position might be unfashionable_ oman's position might be unfashionable in islington, but the unfashionable in islington, but tne neg-curv— unfashionable in islington, but tne neg-cntv ct— unfashionable in islington, but the majority of brits find the cnecttc— the majority of brits find the cnecttc ent — the majority of brits find the chaotic and sometimes tragic ttteget— chaotic and sometimes tragic illegal crossings— chaotic and sometimes tragic illegal crossings unacceptable in illegal crossings unacceptable tn e— illegal crossings unacceptable tn e ncernt— illegal crossings unacceptable in a modern, democratic and ctvttteet— in a modern, democratic and civilised country— in a modern, democratic and civilised country .— in a modern, democratic and civilised country . she may be civilised country. she may be tne— civilised country. she may be tne next— civilised country. she may be the next target— civilised country. she may be the next target following the ccttttcet— the next target following the political demise of dominic teete— political demise of dominic teen tut— political demise of dominic teen tut tt— political demise of dominic raab, but if she— political demise of dominic raab, but if she does what she eeve— raab, but if she does what she eeve ene-e— raab, but if she does what she eeve ene-e gctng— raab, but if she does what she says she's going to do, she wcn-t— says she's going to do, she wcn-t te— says she's going to do, she wcn-t te gctng— says she's going to do, she won't be going anywhere. if braverman stops the boats , there braverman stops the boats, there wttt— braverman stops the boats, there wttt te— braverman stops the boats, there wttt te nc— braverman stops the boats, there will be no stopping .

will be no stopping. her current— will be no stopping. her brilliant stuff- will be no stopping. her brilliant stuff i've dashed across our studio. that's my ttttte— across our studio. that's my ttttte ntnt — across our studio. that's my little mini london marathon wnet-e— little mini london marathon wnet-e vcur— little mini london marathon what's your view? do you agree? do what's your view? do you agree? cc vcu— what's your view? do you agree? cc vcu tteegreee— what's your view? do you agree? do you disagree? mark gb news .ut. — do you disagree? mark gb news .ut. r-tt— do you disagree? mark gb news .ut. r-tt get— do you disagree? mark gb news .ut. r-tt get tc— do you disagree? mark gb news .uk. i'll get to your— do you disagree? mark gb news .uk. i'll get to your email encrttw— .uk. i'll get to your email encrttv, tut— .uk. i'll get to your email shortly, but reacting to my big cctntcn— shortly, but reacting to my big opinion, three— shortly, but reacting to my big opinion, three of— shortly, but reacting to my big opinion, three of the top cunttte— opinion, three of the top cunttte tn— opinion, three of the top pundits in the- opinion, three of the top pundits in the country, guardian cctunntet— pundits in the country, guardian columnist and— pundits in the country, guardian columnist and best selling eutncr— columnist and best selling author polly— columnist and best selling author polly toynbee . writer and author polly toynbee. writer and ccttttcet— author polly toynbee. writer and political commentator jo—anne wetter— political commentator jo—anne wetter .— political commentator jo—anne wetter . ant— political commentator jo—anne nadler . and broadcaster and nadler. and broadcaster and ttnenctet— nadler. and broadcaster and financial analyst at the drinks are financial analyst at the drinks cn ntn. — financial analyst at the drinks are on him. albie— financial analyst at the drinks are on him. albie amankona well, tcce— are on him. albie amankona well, tcct, e— are on him. albie amankona well, look, a fascinating— are on him. albie amankona well, look, a fascinating debate. we nect— look, a fascinating debate. we need tc— look, a fascinating debate. we need tc get— look, a fascinating debate. we need to get straight to it. polly— need to get straight to it. polly toynbee,- need to get straight to it. polly toynbee, your reaction to wnet— polly toynbee, your reaction to wnet r-ve— polly toynbee, your reaction to wnet r-ve net— polly toynbee, your reaction to what i've had to— polly toynbee, your reaction to what i've had to say about suette— what i've had to say about suella braverman? well well, i tntnt— suella braverman? well well, i tntnt vcue— suella braverman? well well, i think you're quite— suella braverman? well well, i think you're quite right there. suppcetng— think you're quite right there. suppcetng ene— think you're quite right there. supposing she were— think you're quite right there. supposing she were able- think you're quite right there. supposing she were able to stop the boats, she would be immensely popular here. but she promises that can't be promises things that can't be delivered so has rishi delivered and so has rishi sunak. i cannot understand how the boats can be stopped except the boats can be stopped except the one thing you could do is the one thing you could do is

the one thing that her department, she and her department, she and her department don't do, which is to process every single person who arrives people arrives immediately. so people like albanians would be sent back in once because you can send them back. the great majority of them are legally be a legal asylum seekers who will get refugee status . so process get refugee status. so process them fast and then let them integrate into society and get jobs. integrate into society and get jobs . absurd to spend money, jobs. absurd to spend money, millions and millions putting them up in hotels when they could be working productively. they are, you know, the great majority of them will be found to be because they've come from afghanistan and iran and iraq, genuine refugee is the ones who aren't. you send back . so why is aren't. you send back. so why is her department now taking to three years to process some of these people? and that's where these people? and that's where the bottleneck is . the the bottleneck is. the bottleneck not- f the bottleneck not related to the bottleneck is. the- bottleneck not related to the nuge— bottleneck not related to the nuge ente— bottleneck not related to the nuge ectte tn— bottleneck not related to the huge spike in numbers crossing the huge spike in numbers crossing tne cnennet— huge spike in numbers crossing the channel illegally. and you nenttcnet— the channel illegally. and you mentioned absolutely that many ceccte— mentioned absolutely that many

ceccte tnet— mentioned absolutely that many people that enter— mentioned absolutely that many people that enter the country ent— people that enter the country ent neve— people that enter the country ent neve e— people that enter the country and have a claim— people that enter the country and have a claim for asylum will nccetuttv— and have a claim for asylum will nccetuttv neve— and have a claim for asylum will hopefully make a— and have a claim for asylum will hopefully make a wonderful contribution— hopefully make a wonderful contribution to— hopefully make a wonderful contribution to britain , as they contribution to britain, as they etweve— contribution to britain, as they etweve neve.— contribution to britain, as they always have. but— contribution to britain, as they always have. but this is an reeue— always have. but this is an issue about— always have. but this is an issue about last- always have. but this is an issue about last year, net ntgrettcn— issue about last year, net migration of— issue about last year, net migration of over half a million people-_ migration of over half a million ceccte. tnet-e— migration of over half a million people. that's about the city tne— people. that's about the city tne ee— people. that's about the city tne ct— people. that's about the city the size of liverpool in one veer.— the size of liverpool in one veer. sc— the size of liverpool in one veer. sc tt-e— the size of liverpool in one veer. sc tt-e e— the size of liverpool in one year. so it's a question of numbers, it's— year. so it's a question of numbers, it's a- year. so it's a question of numbers, it's a question of vctue— numbers, it's a question of vctue ent— numbers, it's a question of volume and the- numbers, it's a question of volume and the public just think the volume and the public just think tne nurnert— volume and the public just think the number-too— volume and the public just think the number too high. the number is too high. i think a the number is too high. i think encr— the number is too high. i think eict people— the number is too high. i think eict people-and- the number is too high. i think a of people and i think a lot of people do. and i think i it's a great problem. i think it's a great problem. it's huge worldwide problem. it's a huge worldwide problem. i mean, fewer in this mean, we have many fewer in this country most of the other country than most of the other countries in europe, let alone the the world who the countries in the world who are next to the war zones, are next door to the war zones, who take the great majority of refugees. but is a global refugees. but it is a global problem . it's not a british problem. it's not a british problem. it's not a british problem specific albie. and we actually have less of it than others. so let's at least keep this proportion. there are this in proportion. there are lots of problems. for instance, crime. i mean, suppose you had a home secretary who said, i will aboush home secretary who said, i will abolish crime and then everybody would but would say, yeah, go for it. but i mean, it would be absurd. it would say, yeah, go for it. but i ialso, it would be absurd. it would say, yeah, go for it. but i ialso absurd ld be absurd. it would say, yeah, go for it. but i ialso absurd ld sayabsurd. it would say, yeah, go for it. but i ialso absurd ld say stopd. it would say, yeah, go for it. but i ialso absurd ld say stop the is also absurd to say stop the boats without really having any practical method of doing it.

well, of course, her argument, the home secretary, as she writes in this weekend's telegraph, that she will more telegraph, is that she will more or less allow ministers to ignore from the european ignore rulings from the european court of human rights. and that's a critical element- that's a critical element in tne— that's a critical element in this, because— that's a critical element in this, because one of the reasons i this, because one of the reasons r neen— this, because one of the reasons r neen-eetet— this, because one of the reasons i mean, asked quite i mean, you asked polly quite reeecnettv— i mean, you asked polly quite reasonably-why- i mean, you asked polly quite reasonably why there is reasonably about why there is eucn— reasonably about why there is eucn e— reasonably about why there is eucn e tetew— reasonably about why there is such a delay, such a backlog in crcceeetng— such a delay, such a backlog in crcceeetng .— such a delay, such a backlog in processing , processing processing, processing eccttcente— processing, processing applicants and that's partly tecuee— applicants and that's partly tecuee ct— applicants and that's partly because of the— applicants and that's partly because of the intervention of wnet— because of the intervention of wnet we— because of the intervention of wnet we ntgnt— because of the intervention of what we might call lawfare or ent— what we might call lawfare or end ecttvtet— what we might call lawfare or and activist lawyers who are evctctttng— and activist lawyers who are exploiting the _ and activist lawyers who are exploiting the anomalies in various different layers of nunen— various different layers of human rights— various different layers of human rights legislation , action human rights legislation, action to human rights legislation, action tc reettv— human rights legislation, action tc reettv creee— human rights legislation, action to really press home. "er ”iii: to really press home. they're euvtetng— to really press home. they're advising migrants to say they've been trafficked discs barred their passports and mobile phones as they cross the channel that's partly it. i mean, i tcn-t— that's partly it. i mean, i don't think— that's partly it. i mean, i don't think that the lawyers are neceeeerttv— don't think that the lawyers are necessarily-them - don't think that the lawyers are necessarily them to necessarily advising them to ttecert— necessarily advising them to discard-mobile- necessarily advising them to discard mobile phones. discard the mobile phones. i turnt— discard the mobile phones. i think-traffickers- discard the mobile phones. i think-traffickers are- discard the mobile phones. i think traffickers are doing think the traffickers are doing that, that that, but they're doing that in the that there the full knowledge that there will be a confusion on arrival between those people who are genuine asylum seekers and those people and those people. i'm not

sure whether it is the great majority of the people on the boat without without . well, i boat without without. well, i think there's i think there's some confusion actually as to people's because some confusion actually as to pethis's because some confusion actually as to pethis kind because some confusion actually as to pethis kind of because some confusion actually as to pethis kind of complicationise some confusion actually as to pethis kind of complication ins of this kind of complication in the system. but the critical thing which your monologue erg didn't really address because it's the kind of underpinning to all of this. it is so critically important because this is really about what is a nation state and who is a accountable. and if a government can't control its borders, then it's not really a government . i agree. i mean, the government. i agree. i mean, the wee— government. i agree. i mean, the ttee tnet— government. i agree. i mean, the ttee tnet vcu— government. i agree. i mean, the idea that you have— government. i agree. i mean, the idea that you have open- g i agree. i mean, the idea that you have open borders is idea that you have open borders te neene— idea that you have open borders te ct— idea that you have open borders is insane of course— idea that you have open borders is insane of course not. you tncw— is insane of course not. you tncw tne— is insane of course not. you know the definition of a country is know the definition of a country te tc— know the definition of a country te tc ccttce— know the definition of a country is to police its— know the definition of a country is to police its borders , but is to police its borders, but rte— is to police its borders, but we verv— is to police its borders, but it's very difficult to do in the wew— it's very difficult to do in the same way a definition of a good gcvernent — same way a definition of a good gcnverrnent rt— same way a definition of a good government. it is— same way a definition of a good government. it is to stop crime. nut— government. it is to stop crime. nut vcu— government. it is to stop crime. nut vcu cent— government. it is to stop crime. but you can't altogether do tnet— but you can't altogether do tnet. vcu— but you can't altogether do tnet. vcu tc— but you can't altogether do that. you do the- but you can't altogether do that. you do the best you can in tne— that. you do the best you can in tne ncet— that. you do the best you can in the most civilised— that. you do the best you can in the most civilised and sensible ent— the most civilised and sensible and effective— the most civilised and sensible and effective . _ the most civilised and sensible and effective . you- the most civilised and sensible and effective . /r:::r. the most civilised and sensible and effective . /r1::r. the most civilised and sensible and effective . 41:4. and effective. you at least have to at least have to attempt to do it. and for a very for a very long time. now, the idea of national borders has been very

much pooh poohed by the left and very weird bits of the left of a labor party or someone like the labour party, the guardian by by the labour party in aukus gary lineker represent left party lineker represent the left party in . they they just rau in office. they they just rau and tony blair, they did everything they well could. they oversaw the biggest the ttggeet— they oversaw the biggest the ttggeet cnenge— they oversaw the biggest the biggest change in migration into this biggest change in migration into tnte ccuntrv— biggest change in migration into this country ever. _ biggest change in migration into this country ever. 1“ this country ever. in fairness, in fairness to the left, jo—anne nadler goes it all goes with the with the with with wars. the moment precisely iran,- the moment precisely iran, iraq . moment precisely iran, iraq. they— moment precisely iran, iraq. tnev tnen— moment precisely iran, iraq. they then then— moment precisely iran, iraq. they then then the refugees went wttn — they then then the refugees went wttn nevtng — they then then the refugees went wttn nevtng nc— they then then the refugees went with having no borders under the turcceen. — with having no borders under the turcceen. r— with having no borders under the european. i think— with having no borders under the european. i think the- with having no borders under the european. i think the levels of asylum seekers were actually much higher in the mid—noughties than they are now. and actually tnet— than they are now. and actually that-government- than they are now. and actually that-government did- that labour government did a verv— that labour government did a very-job— that labour government did a vew-ictlgetttng- that labour government did a very job getting those very good job of getting those nurneret— very good job of getting those nuntere-rt— very good job of getting those numbers-if only- very good job of getting those numbers-if only this. numbers down. if only this current government current conservative government could take a leaf out of their book. i think a lot of it does ccne—ctttcel come down to home office administration. “tit; come down to home office administration. t142;~§r.1�*rz;iz; come down to home office administration. 4:5 i0:1: a" administration. yes, there is an impact from what suella braverman call lefty braverman would call lefty lawyers the echr stopping lawyers and the echr stopping the plan from getting off the rwanda plan from getting off the rwanda plan from getting off the ground. would like to the ground. and i would like to see the ground. and i would like to eee-cten— the ground. and i would like to eee-cten get— the ground. and i would like to

see-plan get off— the ground. and i would like to see-plan get off the- see that plan get off the grcunt. — see that plan get off the ground. -would- see that plan get off the ground. -would like to ground. but i would also like to see one of the— ground. but i would also like to see one of the other amendments tnet— see one of the other amendments tnet tcrv— see one of the other amendments tnet tcrv wre— see one of the other amendments that tory mps illegal that tory mps put the illegal ntgrettcn—tt- that tory mps put the illegal migration—it was| migration bill, i think it was teet— migration bill, i think it was teet-tnev- migration bill, i think it was last-they want. migration bill, i think it was last they want to migration bill, i think it was- last-they want to they last week that they want to they went— last week that they want to they want-government- last week that they want to they want government to draft want the government to draft ctene— want the government to draft ctenelccen— want the government to draft plans-open safe- want the government to draft plans open safe and legal plans to open safe and legal cutce— plans to open safe and legal routes within— plans to open safe and legal routes within the— plans to open safe and legal routes within the six routes within the next six ncntne— routes within the next six. months,-20,000 routes within the next six- months,-20,000 people. months, capped at 20,000 people. i've - advocated _ months, capped at 20,000 people. i've -advocated that- months, capped at 20,000 people. i've advocated that the i've always advocated that the our i've always advocated that the ttteget— i've always advocated that the our illegal migration policy encutt— our illegal migration policy encutt te— our illegal migration policy should be both— our illegal migration policy should be both firm and fair. tnet— should be both firm and fair. tnet neene— should be both firm and fair. that means it— should be both firm and fair. that means it needs to be a firm deterrent.— that means it needs to be a firm teterrent. tut— that means it needs to be a firm deterrent, but then _ that means it needs to be a firm deterrent, but then need to be tetr— deterrent, but then need to be ten. eete— deterrent, but then need to be fair, safe and— deterrent, but then need to be fair, safe and legal routes wntcn— fair, safe and legal routes wntcn ee— fair, safe and legal routes which are open- fair, safe and legal routes which are open for genuine eevtun— which are open for genuine asylum seekers.— which are open for genuine asylum seekers. and unfortunately there aren't encugn— unfortunately there aren't encugn ct— unfortunately there aren't enough of those at the moment. otev. — enough of those at the moment. otev. whet-e— enough of those at the moment. otev. wnet-e vcur— enough of those at the moment. okay. what's your view?- enough of those at the moment. okay. what's your view? can suella braverman stop the boats or is it an empty promise as suggested by polly toynbee? one of my top pundits tonight? coming up next in the big story, following horrific comments following her horrific comments underplaying anti—semitism and racism towards marginalised groups. should diane abbott be expelled from the labour party? well be speaking to the editor of the jewish chronicle and the political activist who ran against corbyn islington in against corbyn in islington in 2019. see you .

think about josh howie pretty eucn— think about josh howie pretty gutct. — think about josh howie pretty gutct. vur— think about josh howie pretty quick. 41:4. ”r: l 1“ 1g think about josh howie pretty quick. 1/r1:4. ”r: l 5r1:1�* 1g think about josh howie pretty quick. 1./r1:4 ”r: l 51:11 11g c15 quick. you're listening to gb news radio . well, a big reaction news radio. well, a big reaction to my big opinion can suella braverman stop the boats ? i braverman stop the boats? i believe that if she can, it wins the tories another five years in power . however, there are forces power. however, there are forces within the media and within the political elite who would love to see the back of her. let me know your thoughts. margaret gbnews.uk. david says hi mark. process migrants immediately. sounds like a great plan, but hasn't covid played a huge part in the backlog processing migrants whilst working from home would be practically impossible . how about this from impossible. how about this from peter suella braverman could stop the boats tomorrow. the question is do the people controlling the government want to stop the boats? the royal navy could stop them in an instant if deployed. i'll get some more of your emails shortly. do keep them coming,

but it's time now for a rather challenging conversation and it's all about diane abbott. so let's get straight to it if we can. and here is the story, folks. it's quite shocking. diane abbott has been suspended as a labour mp pending an investigation into a letter she wrote about racism to the observer. the former shadow home secretary wrote that many types of white people with points of difference can experience prejudice, but they're not subject to racism all their lives . she went on in pre—civil lives. she went on in pre—civil rights america, irish people, jewish people and travellers were not required to sit at the back of the bus in apartheid south africa. these groups were allowed to vote and at the height of slavery there were no white seeming people manacled on the slave ships is now . ms the slave ships is now. ms abbott's letter prompted a backlash, including from the board of deputies of british jews , which described it as jews, which described it as disgraceful and her apology

entirely unconvincing. she later tweeted to say that she was withdrawing her remarks and apologised for any anguish caused . labour said the comments caused. labour said the comments were deeply offensive and wrong. in a moment, we'll speak to jake wallis. simons the editor of the revered jewish chronicle. but first with me in the studio is yosef david, who ran against jeremy corbyn in islington north in 2019. yosef, welcome to the studio. thank you very much for having me. your reaction to what diane abbott had to say in what i guess should stress is a i guess we should stress is a draft letter that she sent to the observer . draft letter that she sent to the observer. but draft letter that she sent to the observer . but the draft letter that she sent to the observer. but the sentiment is black and white, is there in black and white, isn't yes, the sentiments isn't it? yes, the sentiments are abhorrent . they're also are abhorrent. they're also cetenttv— are abhorrent. they're also cetenttv wrcng— are abhorrent. they're also patently wrong . - are abhorrent. they're also patently wrong . if- 5111: they're also patently wrong . �*" :i1: they're also patently wrong . �*" cut:i1: are abhorrent. they're also- patently wrong . if you were to patently wrong. if you were to book a visit to one of the many jewish schools in her constituency, she would be met with airport style security. jewish people and in fact, jewish peopleyand in fact, the jewish people and in fact, the trevetttng— jewish people and in fact, the travelling community as well eutter— travelling community as well suffer extreme _ travelling community as well suffer extreme racism at times. by suffer extreme racism at times. by ent — suffer extreme racism at times. nv ent terge— suffer extreme racism at times. nv ent terge. tn— suffer extreme racism at times. by and large, in this country,

we ttve— by and large, in this country, we ttve tn— by and large, in this country, we ttve tn e— by and large, in this country, we live in a lovely country wnere— we live in a lovely country wnere ceccte— we live in a lovely country where people tend to get on. but but where people tend to get on. but tut tt-e— where people tend to get on. but but it's undeniable— where people tend to get on. but but it's undeniable that the rewren— but it's undeniable that the jewish community and the trevetttng— jewish community and the travelling community suffer cn cer— travelling community suffer racism on par with other communities. - racism on par with other communities. 1/t1::t. : t:. racism on par with other- communities. you made quite the splash at the counts the this is in 2019 when jeremy corbyn was once again re—elected as as the labour member of parliament for islington north. but you were just islington north. but you were iuet tentnt— islington north. but you were just behind him _ islington north. but you were just behind him when- 1g11tzt1 \rt1::t1 but you were just behind him when he 1gt:t111 \rt1::t1 but you were just behind him when he made 11gt1:t11 \rt1::t1 but you were just behind him when he made his eceecn— just behind him when he made his eceecn tn— just behind him when he made his speech in which— just behind him when he made his speech in which he— just behind him when he made his speech in which he said that nee— speech in which he said that ne-e tnet— speech in which he said that he's tried to— speech in which he said that he's tried to run— speech in which he said that he's tried to run a kind of very cteen— he's tried to run a kind of very clean campaign.— he's tried to run a kind of very clean campaign. and yes, labour on clean campaign. and yes, labour cn nte— clean campaign. and yes, labour cn nte wetcn— clean campaign. and yes, labour on his watch represents sort of crctttv— on his watch represents sort of crctttv ent— on his watch represents sort of probity and discretion all probity and discretion and all the probity and discretion and all tne-ant— probity and discretion and all tne-ant vcu- probity and discretion and all the and you went a the rest of it. and you went a bit the rest of it. and you went a ct wret— the rest of it. and you went a bit viral-well,- the rest of it. and you went a bit viral well, your bit viral because, well, your tece — bit viral because, well, your tece -ett. — bit viral because, well, your face-all. yes- bit viral because, well, your face-all. yes - bit viral because, well, your face-all. yes he. bit viral because, well, your. face-all. yes he said, face said it all. yes he said, we— face said it all. yes he said, we utt— face said it all. yes he said, we did not descend into the gutter, which on reflection, he was right. they thought the campaign exclusively from the gutter. let me tell you, i gutter. but let me tell you, i raised both eyebrows at this comment diane abbott and as comment from diane abbott and as jovial as as politics can be, when we see the lighter side, there is responsible motty that comes with the role . and diane

comes with the role. and diane abbott needs to do some reflecting herself, i think. well, yosef, do you stay with reflecting herself, i think. - well, yosef, do you stay with me tecuee— well, yosef, do you stay with me tecuee tn— well, yosef, do you stay with me because i'm delighted to welcome the because i'm delighted to welcome tne etttcr— because i'm delighted to welcome tne etttcr ct— because i'm delighted to welcome the editor of the— because i'm delighted to welcome the editor of the jewish chronicle _ the editor of the jewish chronicle as— the editor of the jewish chronicle as well . so let's hope chronicle as well. so let's hope tnet— chronicle as well. so let's hope tnet tne— chronicle as well. so let's hope tnet tne une— chronicle as well. so let's hope that the line is— chronicle as well. so let's hope that the line is up— chronicle as well. so let's hope that the line is up and running. yes:— that the line is up and running. vee tnteect— that the line is up and running. yes, indeed. we— that the line is up and running. yes, indeed. we have jake wallis stncne— yes, indeed. we have jake wallis simons, editor— yes, indeed. we have jake wallis simons, editor of— yes, indeed. we have jake wallis simons, editor of said newececer— simons, editor of said newspaper. jake your reaction to tnee— newspaper. jake your reaction to the? t— newspaper. jake your reaction to the? t we— newspaper. jake your reaction to this? i was truly— newspaper. jake your reaction to this? i was truly shocked. wnet-e— this? i was truly shocked. wnet-e vcur— this? i was truly shocked. what's your view ? i 11 e what's your view? i can't say i was shocked. in fact , i think was shocked. in fact, i think that for many jewish people, it's quite shocking how we're not shocked anymore because we get to this stuff, get so used to this stuff, particularly from the hard left, which currently is influenced by identity politics. you know, diane abbott, it's sad. you know, she was the t ' e 5?t: you know, she was the first black j ' e 5?t: you know, she was the first black mp in know, she was the first black mp tn ttte— know, she was the first black mp tn the ccuntrv— know, she was the first black mp in this country. _ know, she was the first black mp in this country. she— know, she was the first black mp in this country . in this country. she herself has faced a lot of racism over the years. she's faced a lot of racism over the years . she's set herself up as years. she's set herself up as an years. she's set herself up as en entt — years. she's set herself up as an anti racist— gt:t?5 she's set herself up as an anti racist campaigner. and all an anti racist campaigner. and ett ct— an anti racist campaigner. and ett ct tnet— an anti racist campaigner. and ett ct tnet te— an anti racist campaigner. and all of that is laudable, but eettw— all of that is laudable, but sadlvv tt— all of that is laudable, but sadly, it seems— all of that is laudable, but sadly, it seems that she doesn't tncw— sadly, it seems that she doesn't tncw verv— sadly, it seems that she doesn't tncw verv nucn— sadly, it seems that she doesn't know very much about racism tecuee— know very much about racism tecuee ene-e— know very much about racism because she's under the tnttuence— because she's under the influence of— because she's under the influence of this hard left ttectcgv— influence of this hard left ideology which seeks to restrain act ideology which seeks to restrain ect tne —

ideology which seeks to restrain act the definition— ideology which seeks to restrain act the definition of racism to erect— act the definition of racism to ttect ceccte— act the definition of racism to black people and— act the definition of racism to black people and withdraw it trcn— black people and withdraw it trcn env— black people and withdraw it from any other— black people and withdraw it from any other group, including and from any other group, including ent eecectettv— from any other group, including and especially jews. you know, in and especially jews. you know, tn ner— and especially jews. you know, tn ner cwn— and especially jews. you know, in her own constituency as yosef nenttcnect— in her own constituency as yosef mentioned, there _ in her own constituency as yosef mentioned, there are two attacks on mentioned, there are two attacks cn evereeg cer— mentioned, there are two attacks on average per week on jews. were— on average per week on jews. were tn— on average per week on jews. that's in hackney— on average per week on jews. that's in hackney in her own ccnetttuencv— that's in hackney in her own constituency home office figures at constituency home office figures et tne— constituency home office figures et tne ent— constituency home office figures et tne ent ct— constituency home office figures at the end of last— constituency home office figures at the end of last year showed tnet— at the end of last year showed tnet jews— at the end of last year showed tnet tewe ee— at the end of last year showed that jews are five— at the end of last year showed that jews are five times more tttetv— that jews are five times more tttetv tc— that jews are five times more likely to suffer— that jews are five times more likely to suffer a— that jews are five times more likely to suffer a racist racist eueet— likely to suffer a racist racist eueet ev— likely to suffer a racist racist abuse. by comparison to other tettn— abuse. by comparison to other tettn grcuce— abuse. by comparison to other faith groups and— abuse. by comparison to other faith groups and indeed, the reecn— faith groups and indeed, the reccrt tnet— faith groups and indeed, the report that she— faith groups and indeed, the report that she was sort of retttng— report that she was sort of railing against— report that she was sort of railing against in her letter to the railing against in her letter to tne cteerver.— railing against in her letter to the observer, the— railing against in her letter to the observer, the national tguetttv— the observer, the national equality survey records that etcut— equality survey records that etcut coc— equality survey records that about 60% of— equality survey records that about 60% of travellers say they neve — about 60% of travellers say they have experienced— about 60% of travellers say they have experienced racism. 555i? have experienced racism. 55% of regs.— have experienced racism. 55% of jewsr sow— have experienced racism. 55% of jewsr sow ct— have experienced racism. 55% of jews, 50% of black— have experienced racism. 55% of jews, 50% of black caribbean people, and only 30% of black africans. so people, and only 30% of black africans . so that's what she africans. so that's what she ctiectet— africans. so that's what she ctiectet tc. — africans. so that's what she objected to. that's- ' i so that's what she objected to. that's objective, vou— objected to. that's objective, vcu tncw. — objected to. that's objective, you know, empirical evidence. sne— you know, empirical evidence. sne ccuttn-t— you know, empirical evidence. she couldn't take— you know, empirical evidence. she couldn't take it for her unten— she couldn't take it for her unter tne— she couldn't take it for her under the influence of this ttectcgv— under the influence of this ttectcgv .— under the influence of this ideology , which, by the way, we ideology, which, by the way, we wttn— ideology, which, by the way, we saw with whoopi _ ideology, which, by the way, we saw with whoopi goldberg, if you recett. — saw with whoopi goldberg, if you recett. e— saw with whoopi goldberg, if you recett. e rew— saw with whoopi goldberg, if you recall, a few months ago, saying the recall, a few months ago, saying tne—nct- recall, a few months ago, saying tne—nct etcut-

recall, a few months ago, sayingi the—not about race the holocaust was not about race tecuee— the holocaust was not about race teceuee-tntnge— the holocaust was not about race because things black because only things about black ceccte— because only things about black ceccte-etcut— because only things about black people-about-not. people can be about race, not etcut—tne- people can be about race, not about—the facti about jews ignoring the fact tnet— about jews ignoring the fact that-explicitly. about jews ignoring the fact that explicitly was that it actually explicitly was etcut—nut- that it actually explicitly was about—but underi that it actually explicitly was. about _ but under the about race. diana but under the tnttuence— about race. diana but under the tnttuence ct— about race. diana but under the influence of the— about race. diana but under the influence of the same ideology is influence of the same ideology te tcrcet— influence of the same ideology is forced into— influence of the same ideology is forced into a— influence of the same ideology is forced into a position where ene— is forced into a position where ene nee— is forced into a position where ene nee tc— is forced into a position where she has to deny— is forced into a position where she has to deny empirical evttence— she has to deny empirical evidence and— she has to deny empirical evidence and deny the facts, tenv— evidence and deny the facts, tenv reetttv— evidence and deny the facts, tenv reetttv .— evidence and deny the facts, deny reality , and advance this deny reality, and advance this eteurt— deny reality, and advance this eteurt rctee— deny reality, and advance this absurd idea that— deny reality, and advance this absurd idea that only black ceccte— absurd idea that only black ceccte cen— absurd idea that only black people can experience racism. so it's people can experience racism. so tt-e eteurt. — people can experience racism. so it's absurd. it's— people can experience racism. so it's absurd. it's ridiculous , it's absurd. it's ridiculous, tt-e— it's absurd. it's ridiculous, tt-e etuctt. — it's absurd. it's ridiculous, it's stupid. and- it's absurd. it's ridiculous, it's stupid. and it's very good tnet— it's stupid. and it's very good tnet tetr— it's stupid. and it's very good that keir starmer_ it's stupid. and it's very good that keir starmer has suspended ner. — that keir starmer has suspended ner. ant— that keir starmer has suspended ner. ant t— that keir starmer has suspended her. and i would— that keir starmer has suspended her. and i would join with my tettcw— her. and i would join with my tettcw ceccte— her. and i would join with my fellow people in— her. and i would join with my fellow people in the jewish ccnnunttv— fellow people in the jewish community and— fellow people in the jewish community and call for her evcutetcn— community and call for her expulsion from _ community and call for her expulsion from labour . expulsion from labour. i know tnet— expulsion from labour. i know tnet vur— expulsion from labour. i know tnet vcu-re nct— expulsion from labour. i know that you're not one for cancel culture. why would you go that far? would an apology not be sufficient ? i think well, she sufficient? i think well, she has apologised, but i think the problem with her apology is that it seems to be a reaction to the outrage rather than genuine contrition. you know , it feels contrition. you know, it feels ttte— contrition. you know, it feels ttte wnet— contrition. you know, it feels like what she— ti.t1::t11 . t1:t11 you know, it feels like what she expressed in that tetter— like what she expressed in that tetter tc— like what she expressed in that tetter tc tne— like what she expressed in that letter to the observer was the meet— letter to the observer was the meet ettcctng— letter to the observer was the mask slipping and her expressing

her mask slipping and her expressing ner true— mask slipping and her expressing her true views.— mask slipping and her expressing her true views. and the apology e ttt— her true views. and the apology e ttt ct— her true views. and the apology e ttt ct e— her true views. and the apology was a bit of a reverse ferret or a was a bit of a reverse ferret or e tect—cetet— was a bit of a reverse ferret or a back—pedal. you— was a bit of a reverse ferret or a back—pedal. you know, if we tcct— a back—pedal. you know, if we tcct et— a back—pedal. you know, if we tcct et ner— a back—pedal. you know, if we look at her at— a back—pedal. you know, if we look at her at her— a back—pedal. you know, if we look at her at her track record, ene— look at her at her track record, ene wee— look at her at her track record, she was one of— look at her at her track record, she was one of jeremy corbyn's key— she was one of jeremy corbyn's tev eucccrtere— she was one of jeremy corbyn's key supporters. she knows him wett— key supporters. she knows him wettlnenv— key supporters. she knows him wettlnenv .— key supporters. she knows him welllmany , many- key supporters. she knows him well many , many years, met well of many, many years, met nenv— well of many, many years, met nenw weee— well of many, many years, met many years, been— well of many, many years, met many years, been his friend and ene— many years, been his friend and ene te— many years, been his friend and ene te cn— many years, been his friend and ene te cn reccrt— many years, been his friend and she is on record as— many years, been his friend and she is on record as calling the anti—semitism _ she is on record as calling the anti—semitism scandal in labour anti—semitism scandal in labour e snee— anti—semitism scandal in labour a smear. she's denied the anti—semitism _ a smear. she's denied the anti—semitism problem in labour, wntcn— anti—semitism problem in labour, wntcn tn— anti—semitism problem in labour, which in itself— anti—semitism problem in labour, which in itself is— anti—semitism problem in labour, which in itself is not only eteurct— which in itself is not only absurd, but— which in itself is not only absurd, but grossly offensive to jews-— absurd, but grossly offensive to rewe. ant— absurd, but grossly offensive to rewe. ant ttte— absurd, but grossly offensive to jews. and like you— absurd, but grossly offensive to jews. and like you say , i'm not jews. and like you say, i'm not tc— jews. and like you say, i'm not tc eccrcve— jews. and like you say, i'm not one to approve of— jews. and like you say, i'm not one to approve of cancel culture . tn— one to approve of cancel culture . t-n nct— one to approve of cancel culture . i'm not suggesting she should be cencettet— . i'm not suggesting she should be cancelled from _ . i'm not suggesting she should be cancelled from every platform tnet— be cancelled from every platform tnet ene-e— be cancelled from every platform that she's ever— be cancelled from every platform that she's ever-to- be cancelled from every platform that she's ever to speak that she's ever able to speak at. that she's ever able to speak et. nut— that she's ever able to speak et. nutltetr— that she's ever able to speak at. but keir starmer wishes at. but if keir starmer wishes to at. but if keir starmer wishes tc te— at. but if keir starmer wishes tc te teten— at. but if keir starmer wishes to be taken seriously , wishes to be taken seriously, wishes tetcur— to be taken seriously, wishes tetcur tc— to be taken seriously, wishes tetcur tc te— to be taken seriously, wishes labour to be taken seriously as a party— labour to be taken seriously as e certw tnet— labour to be taken seriously as e certw tnet nee— labour to be taken seriously as a party that has moved on from its anti—semitism_ a party that has moved on from its anti—semitism scandal, he encutt— its anti—semitism scandal, he encutt neve— its anti—semitism scandal, he should have got— its anti—semitism scandal, he should have got rid of her a tcng— should have got rid of her a tcng tne— should have got rid of her a tcng ttne ege— should have got rid of her a long time ago, frankly. and now . gtven— long time ago, frankly. and now . gtven tneee— long time ago, frankly. and now , given these comments, which are , given these comments, which ere-wttn— , given these comments, which ere-wttn ner— , given these comments, which are with her formerly are in line with her formerly evcreeeet— are in line with her formerly expressed views— are in line with her formerly expressed views , it's time expressed views, it's time to get— expressed views, it's time to get nt— expressed views, it's time to get rid completely and get rid of her completely and expel— get rid of her completely and expel-the- get rid of her completely and evict-tne certwl get rid of her completely and expel the party. joseph expel her from the party. joseph newt.— expel her from the party. joseph newt. tt— expel her from the party. joseph david, it doesn't— expel her from the party. joseph david, it doesn't look like tnene— david, it doesn't look like diane abbott— david, it doesn't look like diane abbott has misspoken in

her diane abbott has misspoken in nerecctcgw. — diane abbott has misspoken in ner ecctcgw. sne— diane abbott has misspoken in her apology. t: her apology. she said the errors arose in an initial draft are being sent, but there's no excuse and i wish to apologise for the anguish caused . racism for the anguish caused. racism takes many forms and it's completely undeniable that jewish have suffered. jewish people have suffered. it's effects, have it's monstrous effects, as have irish people , travellers and irish people, travellers and many once again, i'd many others. once again, i'd like to apologise publicly for the remarks and distress the remarks and any distress caused result of them. are caused as a result of them. are you buying that apology? see, i have to be honest, no , i 11g g“ see, i have to be honest, no , i don't have to be honest, no, i don't tntnt— have to be honest, no, i don't tntnt tnet— have to be honest, no, i don't think that diane— have to be honest, no, i don't think that diane abbott is ecrrw— think that diane abbott is sorry. however— think that diane abbott is sorry. however i would say that in sorry. however i would say that tn e— sorry. however i would say that tn e tue— sorry. however i would say that tn e tue .— sorry. however i would say that in a mature , free— sorry. however i would say that in a mature , free society, in a mature, free society, treetcn— in a mature, free society, treetcn ct— in a mature, free society, freedom of speech is the cornerstone _ freedom of speech is the cornerstone of- freedom of speech is the cornerstone of our of our ecctetw— cornerstone of our of our ecctetw. ct— cornerstone of our of our society, of our- cornerstone of our of our society, of our democracy and we neve — society, of our democracy and we neve tc — society, of our democracy and we neve tc te — society, of our democracy and we have to be able— society, of our democracy and we have to be able to— society, of our democracy and we have to be able to associate it ent— have to be able to associate it end even— have to be able to associate it and even include— have to be able to associate it and even include people whose gutte— and even include people whose views, quite frankly, i find ettcrrent— views, quite frankly, i find abhorrent. so— views, quite frankly, i find abhorrent. so whilst i don't tntnt— abhorrent. so whilst i don't tntnt ene-e— abhorrent. so whilst i don't think she's contrite, i think tnet— think she's contrite, i think tnet we— think she's contrite, i think tnet we cen— think she's contrite, i think that we can add- think she's contrite, i think that we can add this to a long ttet— that we can add this to a long ttet ct— that we can add this to a long list of comments— that we can add this to a long list of comments that she's made tnet— list of comments that she's made tnet wcutt— list of comments that she's made that would fall— list of comments that she's made that would fall under the cetegcrw— that would fall under the cetegcrw ct— that would fall under the category of highly controversial and category of highly controversial end we— category of highly controversial and we probably— category of highly controversial and we probably will hear more comments from _ and we probably will hear more comments from her in the future.

it comments from her in the future. tt cen— comments from her in the future. tt te— comments from her in the future. tt te verv— comments from her in the future. it can be very tempting to watch a it can be very tempting to watch e wcte— it can be very tempting to watch a woke warrior— it can be very tempting to watch a woke warrior fall— it can be very tempting to watch a woke warrior fall on her own ewct— a woke warrior fall on her own ewct tut— a woke warrior fall on her own ewct tut everw— a woke warrior fall on her own sword, but every time we agree to sword, but every time we agree tc e— sword, but every time we agree to a cancellation— sword, but every time we agree to a cancellation and it would be e— to a cancellation and it would be a cancellation— to a cancellation and it would be a cancellation from from certtenent— be a cancellation from from parliament, from representing the parliament, from representing tne tetcur— parliament, from representing the labour party— parliament, from representing the labour party every time we egree— the labour party every time we egreele— the labour party every time we agree a cancellation , we're agree to a cancellation, we're ettcwtng— agree to a cancellation, we're allowing another— agree to a cancellation, we're allowing another ratchet notch to allowing another ratchet notch tc te— allowing another ratchet notch tc be turned— allowing another ratchet notch to be turned on.— allowing another ratchet notch to be turned on. on the chokehold,_ to be turned on. on the chokehold, on- to be turned on. on the chokehold, on freedom of speech . sc— chokehold, on freedom of speech . sc vcu— chokehold, on freedom of speech . sc wcu sav— chokehold, on freedom of speech . so you say that— chokehold, on freedom of speech . so you say that what- chokehold, on freedom of speech . so you say that what she said is abhorrent, but she gets suspended for some kind of punishment, but then reinstated as a labour mp and to be judged on the words that she's written. yes. and we have to also note tnet— yes. and we have to also note tnet ene— yes. and we have to also note tnet ene nee— yes. and we have to also note that she has one— yes. and we have to also note that she has one of the biggest certtenenterw— that she has one of the biggest parliamentary majorities in the ccuntrw— parliamentary majorities in the ccuntrw ent— parliamentary majorities in the ccuntrw ent t— parliamentary majorities in the country and i think we should put— country and i think we should cut tt— country and i think we should cut tt tect— country and i think we should cut tt tect tc— country and i think we should put it back to the— country and i think we should put it back to the people who are put it back to the people who tn— put it back to the people who tn tne— put it back to the people who are in the constituency, many of wncn — are in the constituency, many of wncn ee— are in the constituency, many of whom are jewish,— are in the constituency, many of whom are jewish, and i don't tntnt— whom are jewish, and i don't tntnt ene-tt— whom are jewish, and i don't think she'll be— whom are jewish, and i don't think she'll be getting their vcte— think she'll be getting their vcte egetn. — think she'll be getting their vote again. no.- think she'll be getting their vote again. \t1::t '11t: think she'll be getting their- vote again. no. and -jake vote again. no. and also, jake wallace simons, that the wallace simons, i know that the jewish chronicle is obviously focussed on the jewish community, but a very community, but it's a very inclusive find it inclusive paper. i find it a really interesting read and you know, the chronicle will be concerned about the irish

community who have faced huge prejudice, certainly in the 50s and 60s and 70s, as well as the 9yp5y and 60s and 70s, as well as the gypsy community. so this is this insuh gypsy community. so this is this insult , this offence is not insult, this offence is not exclusive to the jewish people . exclusive to the jewish people. that's right. i mean , she did that's right. i mean, she did tc— that's right. i mean, she did seem to take— that's right. i mean, she did seem to take aim- that's right. i mean, she did seem to take aim at jews and tween— seem to take aim at jews and travellers and— seem to take aim at jews and travellers and you— seem to take aim at jews and travellers and you know, and ccnceret— travellers and you know, and ccnceret tne— travellers and you know, and compared the prejudice that jews and travellers— compared the prejudice that jews and travellers face— compared the prejudice that jews and travellers face to the cretuttce — and travellers face to the prejudice that— and travellers face to the prejudice that ginger kids ecenence— prejudice that ginger kids experience at— prejudice that ginger kids experience at school, which is teugtette— experience at school, which is teugnette. t— experience at school, which is laughable. i mean, you know, tetttng— laughable. i mean, you know, we're talking about both both jews— we're talking about both both tewe ent— we're talking about both both jews and travellers were were tnvctvet— jews and travellers were were involved .the _ jews and travellers were were involved the holocaust, were involved in the holocaust, were tired— involved in the holocaust, were ttttetlgreet— involved in the holocaust, were killed great numbers in the killed in great numbers in the nctcceuet. — killed in great numbers in the holocaust. and— killed in great numbers in the holocaust. and ginger people killed in great numbers in the holocaurl. and ginger people killed in great numbers in the holocaurl. and git ger people killed in great numbers in the holocaurl. and git doesn't3le killed in great numbers in the holocaurl. and git doesn't even weren't. i mean, it doesn't even nect— weren't. i mean, it doesn't even need—ecee- weren't. i mean, it doesn't even need—tcce tte - weren't. i mean, it doesn't eveni need—does it? well, need to be said, does it? well, it's need to be said, does it? well, we ensure. — need to be said, does it? well, we ensure. t— need to be said, does it? well, it's absurd. i can't remember which politician you'll which politician it was. you'll have tweet. i'm sure, have seen this tweet. i'm sure, jake, politician who jake, from one politician who pointed out that, she pointed out that, quote, she said were no jewish pointed out that, quote, she said made were no jewish pointed out that, quote, she said made to vere no jewish pointed out that, quote, she said made to site no jewish pointed out that, quote, she said made to sit on) jewish pointed out that, quote, she said made to sit on the vish pointed out that, quote, she said made to sit on the back people made to sit on the back of the bus. well, the sort of vehicles were vehicles in which jews were transported to their certain death auschwitz didn't have death at auschwitz didn't have seats at all. it's very interesting,- seats at all. it's very interesting, isn't- it's very interesting, isn't it, that she tetee— interesting, isn't it, that she tetee tne— interesting, isn't it, that she takes the sole _ interesting, isn't it, that she takes the sole paradigm of

racism from _ takes the sole paradigm of racism from a— takes the sole paradigm of racism from a segregation in anertce— racism from a segregation in anertce tc— racism from a segregation in america to her,— racism from a segregation in america to her, that's the only tettntttcn— america to her, that's the only definition of— america to her, that's the only definition of racism sitting at the definition of racism sitting at tne tect— definition of racism sitting at tne tect ct— definition of racism sitting at the back of the— definition of racism sitting at the back of the bus. that's . nut— the back of the bus. that's racism . but being killed in racism. but being killed in wet— racism. but being killed in tnetr tn— racism. but being killed in their in their— racism. but being killed in their in their millions in auschwitz,— their in their millions in auschwitz, that's not racism. vcu— auschwitz, that's not racism. vcu tncw— auschwitz, that's not racism. you know, and— auschwitz, that's not racism. you know, and it— auschwitz, that's not racism. you know, and it speaks of the tnccrt— you know, and it speaks of the tnccrt ncttcn— you know, and it speaks of the import notion of— you know, and it speaks of the import notion of american ttentttw— import notion of american identity politics into mainstream british culture. and certetntw— mainstream british culture. and certetntw nett— mainstream british culture. and certainly hard left british cutture— certainly hard left british culture, which _ certainly hard left british culture, which seeks to redefine ent— culture, which seeks to redefine racism and limit— culture, which seeks to redefine racism and limit it— culture, which seeks to redefine racism and limit it towards the anertcen— racism and limit it towards the american black— racism and limit it towards the american black experience and by etenecn— american black experience and by etenecn .— american black experience and by extension , black— american black experience and by extension , black the black extension, black the black ecenence— extension, black the black experience in— extension, black the black experience in britain. but certetntw— experience in britain. but certainly not— experience in britain. but certainly not any more . the certainly not any more. the jewish— certainly not any more. the jewish experience or the trevetter— jewish experience or the traveller experience. and look, you— traveller experience. and look, wcu tncw— traveller experience. and look, wcu tncw. t— traveller experience. and look, you know, i would— traveller experience. and look, you know, i would take issue wttn— you know, i would take issue wttn wnet— you know, i would take issue with what yosef— you know, i would take issue with what yosef said about cancellation _ with what yosef said about cancellation on, you know, nevtng— cancellation on, you know, nevtng ner— cancellation on, you know, having her expelled from labour is having her expelled from labour ee—e— having her expelled from labour is_as cancelling. is not the same as cancelling ner. — is not the same as cancelling ner. vcu— is not the same as cancelling ner. vcu-e— is not the same as cancelling her. you a political party her. you know, a political party neete— her. you know, a political party needs-certain- her. you know, a political party needs certain standard needs to have a certain standard by needs to have a certain standard tw wntcn— needs to have a certain standard tw wntcn rte— needs to have a certain standard by which its mps— needs to have a certain standard by which its mps need to need to reecn— by which its mps need to need to reecn tn— by which its mps need to need to reecn tn cuter— by which its mps need to need to reach in order to— by which its mps need to need to reach in order to be— by which its mps need to need to reach in order to be worthy of cerrwtng— reach in order to be worthy of cerrwtng tne— reach in order to be worthy of carrying the party emblem on tnen— carrying the party emblem on their ballot— carrying the party emblem on their ballot paper. you know, etene— their ballot paper. you know, diane abbott,— their ballot paper. you know, diane abbott, if— their ballot paper. you know, diane abbott, if she's kicked cut— diane abbott, if she's kicked cut ct— diane abbott, if she's kicked cut ct tne— diane abbott, if she's kicked out of the party,— diane abbott, if she's kicked out of the party, which i hope ene— out of the party, which i hope ene wit— out of the party, which i hope ene wttt te— out of the party, which i hope she will be, she's— out of the party, which i hope she will be, she's still free to

etene— she will be, she's still free to etent ee— she will be, she's still free to etent ee en— she will be, she's still free to stand as an independent if she wente— stand as an independent if she wentelant— stand as an independent if she wentelantlwcu- stand as an independent if she wants and you have wants to. and as you also have eete— wants to. and as you also have entt-wcu— wants to. and as you also have entt-wcu tncw— wants to. and as you also have said,-you know, her- said, her, you know, her constituents— said, her, you know, her constituents can vote for her if tnew— constituents can vote for her if tnew wcutt — constituents can vote for her if they would like _ constituents can vote for her if they would like to. but i'm they would like to. but what i'm eewtng— they would like to. but what i'm eewtng-aetr— they would like to. but what i'm saying keir starmer saying is that if keir starmer wtenee— saying is that if keir starmer wtenee-te- saying is that if keir starmer wishes-be taken. wishes labour to be taken eertcuetw— wishes labour to be taken eertcuetwle— wishes labour to be taken seriously a party has seriously as a party that has ncvet— seriously as a party that has moved .from _ seriously as a party that has moved from anti—semitism , moved on from anti—semitism, etene— moved on from anti—semitism, ntene—certl moved on from anti—semitism, tnene—cert ct diane abbott cannot be part of tnet— diane abbott cannot be part of tnet tuture— diane abbott cannot be part of that future,-her- diane abbott cannot be part of that future, her comments that future, given her comments tctn— that future, given her comments tctn-ent— that future, given her comments tctn-ent tn— that future, given her comments both-and in the— that future, given her comments both and in the past. both now and in the past. a tcugn— both now and in the past. a tough conversation . tough conversation. ian, centtenen.— tough conversation. ian, gentlemen, thank you for your time and considered thoughts. gentlemen, thank you for your time wallace sidered thoughts. gentlemen, thank you for your timewallace simonsthoughts. gentlemen, thank you for your timewallace simons and ghts. gentlemen, thank you for your timewallace simons and yosef jake wallace simons and yosef david and well, we've been asking you on twitter whether or not diane abbott should be expelled from the labour party. i'll be giving you the results of that poll straight after the break. also coming up with the punst break. also coming up with the pundits as we celebrate saint george's day, is it time for an engush george's day, is it time for an english parliament? should all gambling ads be banned ? and gambling ads be banned? and would you your friend or would you tell your friend or loved one if they were being cheated on? all of that after this .

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. cnennet — people's channel. britain's news . channel well— people's channel. britain's news . channel well ,_ people's channel. britain's news . channel well, a continued big response to my big opinion can suella braverman stop the boats? will she will it decide the utce— will she will it decide the outcome of— will she will it decide the outcome of the- will she will it decide the outcome of the next election ? outcome of the next election? t-n — outcome of the next election? t-n tn— outcome of the next election? i'm in trouble— outcome of the next election? i'm in trouble with christina. hi, christina,— i'm in trouble with christina. hi, christina, she— i'm in trouble with christina. hi, christina, she says. hi, wew.— hi, christina, she says. hi, new. t— hi, christina, she says. hi, mark. i love— hi, christina, she says. hi, mark. i love the- hi, christina, she says. hi, mark. i love the show , but don't mark. i love the show, but don't tree— mark. i love the show, but don't ttee tne— mark. i love the show, but don't ttee tne rete— mark. i love the show, but don't diss the isle of— mark. i love the show, but don't diss the isle of wight as a crcut— diss the isle of wight as a proud islander,— diss the isle of wight as a proud islander, it's actually nucn— proud islander, it's actually much more peaceful here than attente— much more peaceful here than albania. going— much more peaceful here than albania. going back to suella, wcu-e— albania. going back to suella, wcure rtgtt— albania. going back to suella, you're right. she— albania. going back to suella, you're right. she could secure a big you're right. she could secure a ttg tuture— you're right. she could secure a ttg tuture tcn— you're right. she could secure a big future for herself if she's wttttng— big future for herself if she's wttttng tc— big future for herself if she's willing to take— big future for herself if she's willing to take the risk and the net. — willing to take the risk and the net. tne— willing to take the risk and the flak. the main— willing to take the risk and the flak. the main problem, which nctctw— flak. the main problem, which nobody-discuss,- nobody wants to discuss, is overpopulation.— overpopulation. this country is so overpopulation. this country is ec tutt— overpopulation. this country is ec tun-tnet— so full now that we're teetrcwtng — so full now that we're destroying our fields and our terme— destroying our fields and our terne wttn— destroying our fields and our farms with the— destroying our fields and our farms with the argument that we ncet— farms with the argument that we neet-ncueee— farms with the argument that we need houses, actually need more houses, we actually nect— need more houses, we actually need tewer— need more houses, we actually need fewer people. is need fewer people. france is vtrtuettw— need fewer people. france is vtrtuettw enctw— need fewer people. france is virtually empty comparison. virtually empty by comparison. so virtually empty by comparison. sc wnw— virtually empty by comparison. sc wnw nct— virtually empty by comparison. so why not accommodate people wnere— so why not accommodate people wnere tnene— so why not accommodate people where there is— so why not accommodate people where there is room? the issue is overdevelopment of in certtcuter— is overdevelopment of in particular england , and that particular england, and that ccurt— particular england, and that ccutt te— particular england, and that ccutt be e— particular england, and that could be a big— particular england, and that could be a big issue for the tcrtee— could be a big issue for the tcrtee et— could be a big issue for the tories at the— could be a big issue for the tories at the next election . tories at the next election. however, this— tories at the next election. however, this from steve, who tuet— however, this from steve, who tuet eewe— however, this from steve, who tuet eewe tnet— however, this from steve, who tuet eewe tnet t— however, this from steve, who just says that i do— however, this from steve, who just says that i do not support the just says that i do not support tne ccttctee— just says that i do not support the policies of— just says that i do not support the policies of suella braverman and the policies of suella braverman ent tne— the policies of suella braverman and the tories— the policies of suella braverman and the tories will— the policies of suella braverman and the tories will lose the next— and the tories will lose the next election.— and the tories will lose the next election. there you go. wett— next election. there you go. wen, tt-e— next election. there you go. well, it's all— next election. there you go. well, it's all about opinion.

teec— well, it's all about opinion. teen-ccntng. - well, it's all about opinion. keep coming. mark at keep them coming. mark at cnweweua— keep them coming. mark at gbnews.uk. let's get reaction tc— gbnews.uk. let's get reaction now to some of— gbnews.uk. let's get reaction now to some of the other big etcrtee— now to some of the other big etcrtee ct— now to some of the other big stories of the— now to some of the other big stories of the day— now to some of the other big stories of the day with my tenteettc— stories of the day with my fantastic pundits. two brand new etere— fantastic pundits. two brand new eterelttert— fantastic pundits. two brand new stars-mark dolan— fantastic pundits. two brand new stars mark dolan tonight, stars on mark dolan tonight, cuertten— guardian columnist and author rcttw— guardian columnist and author rcttw tcwntee— guardian columnist and author polly toynbee, whose new book, wew— polly toynbee, whose new book, wew ccct.— polly toynbee, whose new book, wew ccct. te— polly toynbee, whose new book, new book, is coming out in a ccucte— new book, is coming out in a ccucte ct— new book, is coming out in a couple of months. look forward to couple of months. look forward tc nevtng— couple of months. look forward to having-that. - couple of months. look forward to having that. we've to having a look at that. we've erec— to having a look at that. we've etec gct— to having a look at that. we've also got writer— to having a look at that. we've also got writer and commentator jo—anne— also got writer and commentator jo—anne broadcaster also got writer and commentator jo—lfinancial broadcaster also got writer and commentator jo—lfinancial analystbroadcaster and financial analyst albie anentcne— and financial analyst albie anentcne .— and financial analyst albie amankona . now we have a welsh amankona. now we have a welsh eenete— amankona. now we have a welsh senete ent— amankona. now we have a welsh senete end we— amankona. now we have a welsh senate and we have— amankona. now we have a welsh senate and we have a scottish rerttenent— senate and we have a scottish parliament and— senate and we have a scottish parliament and of— senate and we have a scottish parliament and of course the wcrtnern— parliament and of course the northern irish— parliament and of course the northern irish assembly. but as tctew— northern irish assembly. but as tctew te— northern irish assembly. but as tctew te setnt— northern irish assembly. but as today is saint george's day, eewtng— today is saint george's day, we're asking is— today is saint george's day, we're asking is it time for an tngtten— we're asking is it time for an english parliament? albie i tntnt— english parliament? albie i tntnt nw— english parliament? albie i think my question would be what wcutt— think my question would be what wcutt en— think my question would be what would an english— think my question would be what would an english parliament ectuettw— would an english parliament actually achieve— would an english parliament actually achieve ? 11 i actually achieve? i'm in favour of less government. i don't like too much bureaucracy . i just too much bureaucracy. i just don't know what an english national parliament would be for just for instilling a sense of patriotism and britons. i think there are probably better, cheaper effective ways cheaper and more effective ways of . and actually, of doing that. and actually, let's forget of let's not forget the house of commons at the commons that we have at the moment essentially an english moment is essentially an english parliament. the health

parliament. you know, the health secretary health secretary is the health secretary is the health secretary for england. the education secretary is the education secretary is the education secretary, justice, secretary most secretary for england. most of the mps are sitting in english seats. so i just don't know what the point of an english national parliament be. symbolism parliament would be. symbolism jo—anne parliament would be. symbolism jo-anne-wellv_ parliament would be. symbolism jo—anne -well, it's - jo—anne nadler well, it's ettgnttw— jo—anne nadler well, it's slightly-than- jo—anne nadler well, it's- slightly-than-because slightly more than that because tnere-e— slightly more than that because tneee-tnet— slightly more than that because there's-that have— slightly more than that because there's that have arisen from anomalies that have arisen from tevctuttcn— anomalies that have arisen from devolution.iso_ anomalies that have arisen from devolution.iso we— anomalies that have arisen from devolution. so we have a situation in in the house of commons where you have scottish mps on and as you say, mps voting on and as you say, issues which largely affect england. so there has been an attempt, i think, to try and address that in the past. but interestingly it didn't last. it only lasted for about five years in the house commons and it in the house of commons and it was like was called something like english. english evil, yes, evil engush english. english evil, yes, evil english votes for english laws. but as you say, it added a kind of not quite another layer of bureaucracy, but another layer of complication to the legislative process. so it was done away with. but i mean, in principle, i actually don't think it's a good idea. if anything, i'd like to go back in the direction try and the other direction and try and reinstate of primacy of reinstate the sort of primacy of the and move

the house of commons and move away from what i think has been away from what i think has been a rather divisive kyiv direction of travel in insofar as devolution concerns. well, yes, new labour's project of devolution seems to have backfired , doesn't it, polly? i backfired, doesn't it, polly? i don't think so at all. i mean, rte.— don't think so at all. i mean, we. wcu— don't think so at all. i mean, we. wcu tncw— don't think so at all. i mean, it's, you know, it's in the process being drawn up. process of being drawn up. gordon brown produced a very interesting about it. interesting report about it. i think we really do. i think there great sense in this there is a great sense in this country of out—of—touchness country that of out—of—touchness of westminster , where wherever of westminster, where wherever you go , what people say time and you go, what people say time and time again , some ways it's sort time again, some ways it's sort of the unrest that brought the brexit vote . what we really need brexit vote. what we really need is to devolve . people really is to devolve. people really want closer to home and want power closer to home and mayors have worked very well and that sort of entity all over england would be a very good idea . but they need power, idea. but they need power, money, money raising power, real power , not just sort of power, not just sort of responsible motty without the cash , without the influence, cash, without the influence, without. do cash, without the influence, without . do you think that keir without. do you think that keir sterner.— without. do you think that keir sterner. tt— without. do you think that keir sterner. tt ne— without. do you think that keir starmer, if he wins— do you think that keir starmer, if he wins the next etecttcn— starmer, if he wins the next election, which _ starmer, if he wins the next election, which looks likely tnet— election, which looks likely tnet nett— election, which looks likely that he'll be _ election, which looks likely that he'll be more of a federalist— that he'll be more of a federalist leader ? federalist leader? i think he wttt. — federalist leader? i think he wttt. t— federalist leader? i think he will. i mean, he's , he's will. i mean, he's, he's

committed to devolution committed himself to devolution . i mean, it is very difficult. and it's also it goes together, perhaps the house of lords perhaps with the house of lords reform, which might be reformed in a way it was , as you in a way that it was, as you know , regional representatives . know, regional representatives. i mean, the mayors might sit on it. people from around the country elected already, but not necessarily directed to the lords. that's one thought devolution _ lords. that's one thought devolution may- : that's one thought devolution may have its advantages,— devolution may have its advantages, but it has backfired in advantages, but it has backfired tn terme— advantages, but it has backfired tn terne ct— advantages, but it has backfired in terms of quelling nationalism . wcuttn-t— in terms of quelling nationalism .wcuttn-t wcu— in terms of quelling nationalism , wouldn't you say? look at the gcver— , wouldn't you say? look at the ccwer ent— , wouldn't you say? look at the ccwer ent tne— , wouldn't you say? look at the power and the strength of the sur— power and the strength of the sun .— power and the strength of the sun . t— power and the strength of the sun . t neen— power and the strength of the snp . i mean, this is the snp. i mean, this is the ccccette— snp. i mean, this is the ccccette ct— snp. i mean, this is the opposite of what labour wanted to opposite of what labour wanted tc ectteve— opposite of what labour wanted to achieve. well— opposite of what labour wanted to achieve. well the snp's power is to achieve. well the snp's power te ettgnttw— to achieve. well the snp's power te ettgnttw teee— to achieve. well the snp's power is slightly less than it was. tne— is slightly less than it was. the wetc— is slightly less than it was. the halo has— is slightly less than it was. the halo has slipped,- is slightly less than it was. the halo has slipped, i- is slightly less than it was. the halo has slipped, i think. i don't think the snp's power is the great thing to talk about just now. i think labour's going, but they've had a decade haven't they. quite a few snp seats. okay. interesting stuff. yeah. we watch with interest wnet— yeah. we watch with interest wnet-wcrtn- yeah. we watch with interest what- north of- yeah. we watch with interest what north of the yeah. we watch with interest- what- north of the border what happens north of the border nevt— what happens north of the border next—ct— what happens north of the border next—ct cecctei next year. now 52% of people tetteve— next year. now 52% of people tetteve-ett— next year. now 52% of people believe all gambling ads believe that all gambling ads encutt— believe that all gambling ads should _that's- should be banned. that's ecccrttng— should be banned. that's according-a— should be banned. that's according a recent should be banned. that's according-a recent by according to a recent survey by gentttng— according to a recent survey by gambling-lives— according to a recent survey by gambling lives and gambling gambling with lives and gambling can gambling with lives and gambling cen-ttvee.— gambling with lives and gambling cen-ttvee. nut— gambling with lives and gambling can-lives. but is— gambling with lives and gambling can lives. but is also can ruin lives. but is also nernteee—

can ruin lives. but is also harmless fun— can ruin lives. but is also harmless fun for many. so is it tne— harmless fun for many. so is it ttne tc— harmless fun for many. so is it ttne tc ten— harmless fun for many. so is it time to ban all— harmless fun for many. so is it time to ban all gambling advertisements? and would it wcrt— advertisements? and would it wcrt e— advertisements? and would it work ? joanne?— advertisements? and would it work ? joanne? no, no , it's not work? joanne? no, no, it's not tne— work? joanne? no, no, it's not ttne tc— work? joanne? no, no, it's not ttne tc ten— work? joanne? no, no, it's not time to ban them. '11t: e time to ban them. and no, it wouldn't work. as you say, the majority of people who gamble gamble safely. those people who are effective, adversely are affected extremely adversely. and it's very dangerous and it's a very dangerous addiction in. but i've not seen the research that connects advertising of gambling specifically albie to those people who have that addiction on that basis , we'd be you'd be on that basis, we'd be you'd be banning the advertising of all sorts of things that can become addictive. so it seems to me a bit of a kind of knee jerk reaction to conflate the two things and, and, and, and not particularly effective, if that's what the concern is. is this a way of framing gambling in this a way of framing gambling tn tne— this a way of framing gambling tn tne wew— this a way of framing gambling in the way that— this a way of framing gambling in the way that we framed encttng— in the way that we framed encttng tn— in the way that we framed smoking in the— in the way that we framed smoking in the 80s and 90s to neve— smoking in the 80s and 90s to nete gentttng— smoking in the 80s and 90s to make gambling a— smoking in the 80s and 90s to make gambling a bad thing to remove advertising tax it more ntgntw— remove advertising tax it more ntgntw ent— remove advertising tax it more highly and encourage people not to highly and encourage people not tc tc— highly and encourage people not tc tc tte — highly and encourage people not tc tc tte t— highly and encourage people not to do it? i think— highly and encourage people not to do it? i think that's- to do it? i think that's a strong point. instinctively,

instinctively, i'm not in favour of banning things. i think if the public don't like something, it's very easy for a government to say, here's something you don't make a law to don't like, i'll make a law to ban and it's popular ban it. and it's very popular with voters that we've seen as we've this polling. we've seen in this polling. i think things that think one of the things that they that they they were mentioning that they might take from this might actually take from this report, the report, one of the recommendations is that they want the profits of want to levy the profits of these gambling companies somehow. really sure how these gambling companies somtwould really sure how these gambling companies somtwould work. really sure how these gambling companies somtwould work. ireally sure how these gambling companies somtwould work. i don't sure how these gambling companies somtwould work. i don't know10w these gambling companies somtwould work. i don't know ifn that would work. i don't know if i'm necessarily comfortable with that either. however, very that either. however, it's very easy oh , don't like that either. however, it's very easy solutions , don't like that either. however, it's very easy solutions for don't like that either. however, it's very easy solutions for big 't like that either. however, it's very easy solutions for big problem these solutions for big problem . um, you know, gambling is a huge for of people huge problem for a lot of people and actually hits of and actually hits some of the poorest people society poorest people in our society the most. and i do think it is probably right that that the government does something to help. i just worry that help. yes. and i just worry that crcteeetcnet— help. yes. and i just worry that professional sport,— yes. and i just worry that professional sport, for example, is professional sport, for example, te-rettence— professional sport, for example, te-rettence cn— professional sport, for example, is reliance on investment is over reliance on investment trcn— is over reliance on investment trcn gentttng— is over reliance on investment from gambling companies, which i tntnt— from gambling companies, which i tntnt-e— from gambling companies, which i tntnt-e teet— from gambling companies, which i think-a deal with- think is a bit of a deal with tne— think is a bit of a deal with tne tevtt. — think is a bit of a deal with the devil. but— think is a bit of a deal with the devil. but there you go. tet-e— the devil. but there you go. tet-e tett— the devil. but there you go. let's talk about— the devil. but there you go. let's talk about matters of the neen— let's talk about matters of the heart - because _ heart now, because a man tteccveret— heart now, because a man discovered-his- discovered that his grey grandmother— discovered that his grey grandmother on his grandmother was cheating on his grenttet— grandmother was cheating on his grenttet wnc— grandmother was cheating on his granddad who knew? he wrote in to granddad who knew? he wrote in tc tne— granddad who knew? he wrote in tc tne wetc— granddad who knew? he wrote in to the metro newspaper for etvtce— to the metro newspaper for etvtce cn— to the metro newspaper for advice on whether or not he

encutt — advice on whether or not he encutt cut— advice on whether or not he should out his— advice on whether or not he should out his gran . so would should out his gran. so would you— should out his gran. so would wcu tett— should out his gran. so would wcu tett wcur— should out his gran. so would you tell your friend or loved tt— you tell your friend or loved tt wcu— you tell your friend or loved one if you knew— you tell your friend or loved one if you knew they were being cneetet — one if you knew they were being cneetet cne— one if you knew they were being cheated on? albie— one if you knew they were being cheated on? albie think cheated on? albie i think i crctettw— cheated on? albie i think i probably would. 11 probably would. i mean, i was reading the story and i was quite shocked to read that this this young man was calling his grandmother an tart. i mean, grandmother an old tart. i mean, i couldn't couldn't ever imagine calling my grandmother so calling my grandmother that. so i that was quite rude. i thought that was quite rude. but think think that you but no, i think i think that you can the situation with can handle the situation with care. and i always think honesty is the best policy. i don't know, though, because in a way you're interfering with people's lives. if you out an affair, eent— lives. if you out an affair, eent wcu.— l if you out an affair, aren't you, polly? t lf you out an affair, aren't you, polly? g aren't you, polly? i don't think you i think you should do that. i think it's people their own people to sort out their own lives maybe things fade lives and maybe things fade away, get forgotten. maybe it's, you she gets over it. and you know, she gets over it. and it would been better never it would have been better never to it. i just think that to raise it. i just think that interfering. because you think you know better about other people's marriages, very people's marriages, mostly very unwise. i people's marriages, mostly very unwise . i mean, you are sitting unwise. i mean, you are sitting on unwise. i mean, you are sitting cn e verv— unwise. i mean, you are sitting cn e verw nct— unwise. i mean, you are sitting on a very hot piece— unwise. i mean, you are sitting on a very hot piece of- on a very hot piece of information,- on a very hot piece of information, aren't you? if you fine— information, aren't you? if you tne-tnet— information, aren't you? if you tne-tnet e— information, aren't you? if you find .that a friend- information, aren't you? if you find that a friend being find out that a friend is being cneetet— find out that a friend is being cheated-family- find out that a friend is being cheated family member, cheated on or a family member, it'slresponsibility_ cheated on or a family member, it'slresponsibility .— cheated on or a family member, it's responsibility . it's it's a responsibility. it's a tween. — it's a responsibility. it's a burden. joanne.- it's a responsibility. it's a burden. 11 it's a responsibility. it's a- burden. joanne.-a horrible burden. joanne. it's a horrible dilemma to i'm glad i've

dilemma to have. i'm glad i've never but i was never had it, frankly, but i was thinking about it knowing that we might discuss this in advance and of alighted on a bit and i sort of alighted on a bit of a compromise situation , which of a compromise situation, which is i'd be inclined is that i think i'd be inclined to word with the person to have a word with the person that was having the affair and suggest that they maybe try to put right, speak to gran, put things right, speak to gran, speak because i think speak to. yeah, because i think tnet— speak to. yeah, because i think tnet-wew— speak to. yeah, because i think tnet-wew tne— speak to. yeah, because i think that-way the grand- yeah, because i think that way the grand son is that in a way the grand son is a ncne— that in a way the grand son is a ncne wrecert — that in a way the grand son is a home wrecker. yeah i think it ccurt— home wrecker. yeah i think it ccutt te. — home wrecker. yeah i think it ccutt te. r— home wrecker. yeah i think it could be. i mean,- home wrecker. yeah i think it could be. 11 could be. i mean, i'm i'm inclined to agree with polly on this one. all right. well, look , done, gran, for having , well done, gran, for having such love life. such a colourful love life. lucky you . coming up next, such a colourful love life. - lucky you . coming up next, my lucky you. coming up next, my new— lucky you. coming up next, my nert-gueet— lucky you. coming up next, my nert-gueet te— lucky you. coming up next, my mark guest is former tory mark meets guest is former tory mp mark meets guest is former tory wt uncer— mark meets guest is former tory mp under margaret thatcher. nervew— mp under margaret thatcher. nervew-e— mp under margaret thatcher. nervew-e cnen- mp under margaret thatcher. harvey a man falsely harvey proctor, a man falsely ccueet— harvey proctor, a man falsely ccueet ct— harvey proctor, a man falsely accused of murder and being part of accused of murder and being part ct en— accused of murder and being part ct en tnegtnerw— accused of murder and being part of an imaginary ring in westminster- of an imaginary ring in westminster . it's of an imaginary ring in westminster. it's a of an imaginary ring in westminster . it's a shocking westminster. it's a shocking etcrw— westminster. it's a shocking etcrw. vcu— westminster. it's a shocking story. you won't— westminster. it's a shocking story. you won't believe it. and tnet-e— story. you won't believe it. and tnet-e .—

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| text- it's time now for | text— it's time now for mark meets. ant— it's time now for mark meets. ant tcntgnt— it's time now for mark meets. ant tcntgnt .— it's time now for mark meets. and tonight , former conservative and tonight, former conservative rnernetr— and tonight, former conservative nernte ct— and tonight, former conservative member of parliament under ttergeret— member of parliament under margaret thatcher, harvey trcctct— margaret thatcher, harvey proctor, whose _ margaret thatcher, harvey proctor, whose illustrious career and reputation were teetrcwet— career and reputation were teetrcwet tw— career and reputation were destroyed by a— career and reputation were destroyed by a series of ccnttetetw— destroyed by a series of completely false allegations tnet— completely false allegations tnet ne— completely false allegations tnet ne wee— completely false allegations that he was guilty of murder and part— that he was guilty of murder and cert ct— that he was guilty of murder and cert ct e— that he was guilty of murder and part of a mythical— that he was guilty of murder and part of a mythical ring in westminster— part of a mythical ring in westminster .— part of a mythical ring in westminster . a groundless story westminster. a groundless story tetttet— westminster. a groundless story tetttet tw— westminster. a groundless story tetttet tw tne— westminster. a groundless story peddled by the fantasist carl teecn— peddled by the fantasist carl teecn .— peddled by the fantasist carl beech , who's— peddled by the fantasist carl beech , who's now serving 18 beech, who's now serving 18 weere— beech, who's now serving 18 weere tn— beech, who's now serving 18 years in prison— beech, who's now serving 18 years in prison following their tctcnet— years in prison following their botched operation midland investigation. _ botched operation midland investigation. and having been tcunt— investigation. and having been tcunt tc— investigation. and having been found to have— investigation. and having been found to have made at least 40 ntetetee— found to have made at least 40 ntetetee tn— found to have made at least 40 mistakes in their— found to have made at least 40 mistakes in their investigation . tne— mistakes in their investigation , even the police— mistakes in their investigation , even the police apologised to nervew— , even the police apologised to nervew trcctcr.— , even the police apologised to harvey proctor, and in 2019 he is harvey proctor, and in 2019 he te reecnet— harvey proctor, and in 2019 he te retcrtet tc— harvey proctor, and in 2019 he is reported to have received etncet— is reported to have received etncet tr— is reported to have received almost £1 million in compensation and legal fees almost £1 million in— compensation and legal fees from the compensation and legal fees from tne wet.— compensation and legal fees from the met. police— compensation and legal fees from the met. police as— compensation and legal fees from the met. police as well. after seven years of— the met. police as well. after seven years of hell and the loss of seven years of hell and the loss ct nte— seven years of hell and the loss ct nte neettn— seven years of hell and the loss of his health, both— seven years of hell and the loss of his health, both mental and tnwetcet.— of his health, both mental and tnwetcet. tne— of his health, both mental and physical, the loss— of his health, both mental and physical, the loss of his home, his livelihood— physical, the loss of his home, his livelihood and— physical, the loss of his home, his livelihood and his reputation.- his livelihood and his reputation. i'm delighted to say tnet— reputation. i'm delighted to say tnet ne— reputation. i'm delighted to say that he prevails— reputation. i'm delighted to say that he prevails and he lives to tett— that he prevails and he lives to tett tne— that he prevails and he lives to tell the tale.— that he prevails and he lives to tell the tale. harvey proctor, eccte— tell the tale. harvey proctor, eccte tc— tell the tale. harvey proctor, welcome to mark dolan tonight. ccct— welcome to mark dolan tonight. ccct eventng— welcome to mark dolan tonight. good evening to— welcome to mark dolan tonight. good evening to you. thank you

for inviting me on to your program and good evening to your viewers as well. lovely to have you— viewers as well. lovely to have wcu wttn— viewers as well. lovely to have wcu wttn — viewers as well. lovely to have you with us. what— viewers as well. lovely to have you with us. what-your- you with us. what are your ectcne— you with us. what are your emotions, harvey, you once emotions, harvey, as you once egetn— emotions, harvey, as you once egetn neer— emotions, harvey, as you once egetn neer tne— emotions, harvey, as you once again hear the details that again hear the details of that greet— again hear the details of that great injustice— again hear the details of that great injustice this done to you?— great injustice this done to you? wett— great injustice this done to you? wen, tt— great injustice this done to you? well, it still hurts and i cent— you? well, it still hurts and i cut tnegtne— you? well, it still hurts and i can't imagine a— you? well, it still hurts and i can't imagine a time when it wit— can't imagine a time when it wttt nct. — can't imagine a time when it will not. and— can't imagine a time when it will not. and the— can't imagine a time when it will not. and the impact was so greet. — will not. and the impact was so greet. sc— will not. and the impact was so great. so outrageous- will not. and the impact was so great. g great. so outrageous that that i don't think i will ever get over it. your don't think i will ever get over it . your health was affected as it. your health was affected as wet.— it. your health was affected as wet. tt— it. your health was affected as wet. tt — it. your health was affected as wett. tt t— it. your health was affected as well. it was. i was— c your health was affected as well. it was. i was in reasonably- well. it was. i was in reasonably good health, good tnwetcet— reasonably good health, good physical health. _ reasonably good health, good physical health. i had a number of physical health. i had a number ct nettcet— physical health. i had a number of medical issues— physical health. i had a number of medical issues as a result of tnet— of medical issues as a result of tnet . — of medical issues as a result of tnet . ot— of medical issues as a result of that . of course,— of medical issues as a result of that . of course, as- of medical issues as a result of that . ti.t1:tu t: that. of course, as you said, i lost my house. i lost my job, i lost my house. i lost my job, i lost my house. i lost my job, i lost my repute. i had death tnreete— lost my repute. i had death threats and _ lost my repute. i had death threats and i— lost my repute. i had death threats and i had- lost my repute. i had death threats and i had to- i had death threats and i had to leave the ccuntrw— threats and i had to leave the ccuntrw rcr— threats and i had to leave the country for almost a year. so it cnenget— country for almost a year. so it cnenget nw— country for almost a year. so it changed my life— country for almost a year. so it changed my life completely. and uttertw— changed my life completely. and uttertw ent— changed my life completely. and utterly and cannot— changed my life completely. and utterly and cannot be undone. ttt— utterly and cannot be undone. ttt wcu— utterly and cannot be undone. ttt wcu ttnt— utterly and cannot be undone. did you find out— utterly and cannot be undone. did you find out at that time, turtng— did you find out at that time, turtng tncee— did you find out at that time, during those seven years who

wcur— during those seven years who wcur trtente— during those seven years who your friends were— during those seven years who your friends were ? uh oh, almost your friends were? uh oh, almost tnnettetetw— your friends were? uh oh, almost tnnettetetw. — your friends were? uh oh, almost immediately. and— your friends were? uh oh, almost immediately. 11t: your friends were? uh oh, almost immediately .11t: immediately. and that is to the good that you know who your friends are and who are fair weather friends. and then , of weather friends. and then, of course, you find out people who said nothing at the time . and said nothing at the time. and then when it was all over , they then when it was all over, they came in to support and of course, a bit little and a bit late. yes. when it was safe to do late. yes. when it was safe to tc ec— late. yes. when it was safe to tc tetr— late. yes. when it was safe to do so. fair weather— yes. when it was safe to do so. fair weather friends . if do so. fair weather friends. if you— do so. fair weather friends. if wcu ccurt— do so. fair weather friends. if you could speak— do so. fair weather friends. if you could speak directly to this twtetet— you could speak directly to this twtetet ent— you could speak directly to this twisted and dishonest character, teettw— twisted and dishonest character, deeply destructive— twisted and dishonest character, deeply destructive personality. cert— deeply destructive personality. cert teecn.— deeply destructive personality. carl beech, if— deeply destructive personality. carl beech, if you— deeply destructive personality. carl beech, if you could speak to carl beech, if you could speak tc ntn— carl beech, if you could speak tc um, wnet— carl beech, if you could speak to him, what would you say to ntnt— to him, what would you say to ntnt t— to him, what would you say to ntnt t tntnt— to him, what would you say to him? i think i'd— to him, what would you say to him? i think i'd want to know why,— him? i think i'd want to know wnw. tut— him? i think i'd want to know wnw. tut reettw— him? i think i'd want to know why, but really ,_ him? i think i'd want to know why, but really , i— him? i think i'd want to know why, but really , i wouldn't wish why, but really, i wouldn't wish to why, but really, i wouldn't wish tc eteet— why, but really, i wouldn't wish tc eteet tc— why, but really, i wouldn't wish to speak to him.— why, but really, i wouldn't wish to speak to him. i— why, but really, i wouldn't wish to speak to him. i have a kind of to speak to him. i have a kind ct tcw— to speak to him. i have a kind of icy contempt— to speak to him. i have a kind of icy contempt that and i try nct— of icy contempt that and i try nct tc— of icy contempt that and i try nct tc tntnt— of icy contempt that and i try not to think of— of icy contempt that and i try not to think of him or to not tntnt— not to think of him or to not tntnt ct— not to think of him or to not think of what— not to think of him or to not think of what he— not to think of him or to not think of what he said and what he think of what he said and what ne tnet— think of what he said and what ne trtet tc— think of what he said and what he tried to do— think of what he said and what he tried to do to— think of what he said and what he tried to do to my life. and

to he tried to do to my life. and tc ctnere— he tried to do to my life. and to others who— he tried to do to my life. and to others who some of whom died turtng— to others who some of whom died turtng tne— to others who some of whom died during the course— to others who some of whom died during the course of— to others who some of whom died during the course of it, or who net— during the course of it, or who net etreetw— during the course of it, or who had already died— during the course of it, or who had already died and couldn't tect— had already died and couldn't answer back. therefore i feel a reetcnettttttw— answer back. therefore i feel a responsibility now— answer back. therefore i feel a responsibility now . i'm the last responsibility now. i'm the last eurvtvcr— responsibility now. i'm the last eurvtvcr ct— responsibility now. i'm the last survivor of his— responsibility now. i'm the last survivor of his is— responsibility now. i'm the last survivor of his is monstrous ettegettcne— survivor of his is monstrous allegations to— survivor of his is monstrous allegations to defend them as wett— allegations to defend them as wet ee— allegations to defend them as well as myself— allegations to defend them as well as myself ,_ allegations to defend them as well as myself , including former well as myself, including former ntgn— well as myself, including former ntgn trcttte— well as myself, including former high profile government minister tecn— high profile government minister tecn trttten— high profile government minister leon brittan and— high profile government minister leon brittan and former prime tttnteter— leon brittan and former prime minister edward— leon brittan and former prime minister edward heath at and tcrner— minister edward heath at and tcrrner ntn— minister edward heath at and former film marshal lord trenett— former film marshal lord bramall, whose memorial service wttt— bramall, whose memorial service wttt te— bramall, whose memorial service wttt te ccntng— bramall, whose memorial service will be coming up— bramall, whose memorial service will be coming up on thursday of this will be coming up on thursday of the week— will be coming up on thursday of the week .— will be coming up on thursday of this week . you— will be coming up on thursday of this week . you have prevailed . this week. you have prevailed. however, what— this week. you have prevailed. however, what does the future nctt— however, what does the future nctt rcr— however, what does the future nctt tcr you?— however, what does the future hold for you? because you still neve— hold for you? because you still neve e— hold for you? because you still have a contribution to make ? have a contribution to make? wett— have a contribution to make? wett t— have a contribution to make? well, i would— have a contribution to make? well, i would like to think so . well, i would like to think so. my well, i would like to think so. taw ttte— well, i would like to think so. new ttte nee— well, i would like to think so. my life has been— well, i would like to think so. my life has been about public eervtce— my life has been about public eervtce .— my life has been about public eervtce . us— my life has been about public service , us and— my life has been about public service , us and for a time service, us and for a time i ccuttn-t— service, us and for a time i ccuttn-t tc— service, us and for a time i couldn't do that— service, us and for a time i couldn't do that . i am at the couldn't do that. i am at the ncent— couldn't do that. i am at the moment back— couldn't do that. i am at the moment back doing the job that i was moment back doing the job that i tcrcet— moment back doing the job that i was forced out— moment back doing the job that i was forced out of— moment back doing the job that i was forced out of and i'm living in was forced out of and i'm living tn tne— was forced out of and i'm living tn tne ncuee— was forced out of and i'm living in the house that— was forced out of and i'm living in the house that the

metropolitan police raided with 20 metropolitan police raided with zo police— metropolitan police raided with 20 police officers— metropolitan police raided with 20 police officers in march, aort- — 20 police officers in march, aort- sc— 20 police officers in march, aort- sc tn— 20 police officers in march, 2015. so i'm back living where i ttvee— 2015. so i'm back living where i ttvet tetcre. — 2015. so i'm back living where i lived before. so— 2015. so i'm back living where i lived before. so there we are. we— lived before. so there we are. we weve— lived before. so there we are. we we've reclaimed at least that wcur— we we've reclaimed at least that your professional— we we've reclaimed at least that your professional position. tet-e— your professional position. tet-etett— your professional position. let's talk about your time in tne— let's talk about your time in the commons.— let's talk about your time in the commons. nine 1979 to 87. scnetntng— the commons. nine 1979 to 87. scnetntng ct— the commons. nine 1979 to 87. something of a— the commons. nine 1979 to 87. something of a golden era for the something of a golden era for tne tcrw— something of a golden era for tne tcrw netw— something of a golden era for the tory party. tell me about wcur— the tory party. tell me about wcur tne— the tory party. tell me about your time serving under your tcee— your time serving under your boss, margaret— your time serving under your boss, margaret thatcher. what were your impressions of her as a were your impressions of her as e rune— were your impressions of her as a prime minister?— were your impressions of her as a prime minister? well, the two teet— a prime minister? well, the two best parliaments— a prime minister? well, the two best parliaments since the seccnt— best parliaments since the second world _ best parliaments since the second world war, a parliament tnet— second world war, a parliament tnet vnen— second world war, a parliament tnet wnen we— second world war, a parliament that when we went to war, a real ent— that when we went to war, a real ent r— that when we went to war, a real ent r tn— that when we went to war, a real war, and 1 in 1979,— that when we went to war, a real war, and 1 in 1979, i— that when we went to war, a real war, and 1 in 1979, i was etectet— war, and 1 in 1979, i was elected member of parliament for teetttcn— elected member of parliament for teetttcn tn— elected member of parliament for basildon in essex— elected member of parliament for basildon in essex with a swing of basildon in essex with a swing ct cve— basildon in essex with a swing ct rt— basildon in essex with a swing of over 11, the— basildon in essex with a swing of over 11, the largest swing to tete — of over 11, the largest swing to tete e— of over 11, the largest swing to tete e eeet— of over 11, the largest swing to take a seat in— of over 11, the largest swing to take a seat in england in 1979. so take a seat in england in 1979. sc t— take a seat in england in 1979. sc t tece— take a seat in england in 1979. sc t tece e— take a seat in england in 1979. so i became a member of parliament— so i became a member of parliament at— so i became a member of parliament at the same time as ttte.— parliament at the same time as tare. tnetcner— parliament at the same time as mrs. thatcher became prime tttnteter— mrs. thatcher became prime tttnteter .— mrs. thatcher became prime tttnteter . a—

mrs. thatcher became prime minister . a great honour at that minister. a great honour at that cennct— minister. a great honour at that cennct te— minister. a great honour at that cannot be taken— minister. a great honour at that cannot be taken away from me, tettnttetw. — cannot be taken away from me, definitely. and _ cannot be taken away from me, definitely. and it— cannot be taken away from me, definitely. and it was i suppose the definitely. and it was i suppose tne ttret— definitely. and it was i suppose the first term _ definitely. and it was i suppose the first term was— definitely. and it was i suppose the first term was about winning tnet— the first term was about winning tnet we— the first term was about winning tnet tn— the first term was about winning that war in the— the first term was about winning that war in the falklands war. of that war in the falklands war. ct cuee— that war in the falklands war. ct .— that war in the falklands war. of course , which— that war in the falklands war. of course , which in which of course, which in which trttten— of course, which in which british forces— of course, which in which british forces prevail and retetrtng— british forces prevail and repairing the— british forces prevail and repairing the economy , getting repairing the economy, getting tnttettcn— repairing the economy, getting inflation down,— repairing the economy, getting inflation down, tackling unemployment, and of course by 83 unemployment, and of course by cc tntnge— unemployment, and of course by 83 things started— unemployment, and of course by 83 things started to pick up . by 83 things started to pick up. by 87 83 things started to pick up. by ct tt— 83 things started to pick up. by ct tt wee— 83 things started to pick up. by 87 it was booming. britain eent— 87 it was booming. britain eent ttt— 87 it was booming. britain wasn't it? briefly, whilst we got— wasn't it? briefly, whilst we gct wcu— wasn't it? briefly, whilst we gct wcu wttt— wasn't it? briefly, whilst we got you will definitely get you tect. — got you will definitely get you tect. tw— got you will definitely get you tect. tw tne — got you will definitely get you back. by the way,— got you will definitely get you back. by the way, harvey , your back. by the way, harvey, your ettreteet— back. by the way, harvey, your ettreteet ct— back. by the way, harvey, your appraisal of rishi _ back. by the way, harvey, your appraisal of rishi sunak , i appraisal of rishi sunak, i tntnt— appraisal of rishi sunak, i tntnt nee— appraisal of rishi sunak, i think he's been given a tttttcutt— think he's been given a difficult task- think he's been given a difficult task , which i think difficult task, which i think nee— difficult task, which i think he's acquitting_ difficult task, which i think he's acquitting himself quite wett— he's acquitting himself quite wett wttt— he's acquitting himself quite well with at— he's acquitting himself quite well with at the— he's acquitting himself quite well with at the moment . doesn't well with at the moment. doesn't neceeeerttw— well with at the moment. doesn't necessarily mean— well with at the moment. doesn't necessarily mean to— well with at the moment. doesn't necessarily mean to say that nee— necessarily mean to say that we gctng— necessarily mean to say that we gctng tc— necessarily mean to say that he's going to win the next generet— he's going to win the next general election . obviously i general election. obviously i tcce— general election. obviously i ncte ne— general election. obviously i ncte ne tcee— general election. obviously i ncte ne tcee .— general election. obviously i hope he does . but i think the hope he does. but i think the jury— hope he does. but i think the turw te— hope he does. but i think the turw te etttt— hope he does. but i think the jury is still out— hope he does. but i think the jury is still out on the results of jury is still out on the results ct tne— jury is still out on the results ct tne nevt— jury is still out on the results of the next general election. tetcur— of the next general election. tetcur neve— of the next general election. labour have a— of the next general election. labour have a great propensity for labour have a great propensity tcr tcetng— labour have a great propensity for losing elections and starmer

seems seems to be— for losing elections and starmer seems seems to be heading to my ntnt— seems seems to be heading to my ntnt tn— seems seems to be heading to my ntnt tn tnet— seems seems to be heading to my mind in that direction. seems seems to be heading to my mind in that direction . ian mind in that direction. ian nervew— mind in that direction. ian harvey proctor,— mind in that direction. ian harvey proctor, candid as etwewe— harvey proctor, candid as etwewe tc— harvey proctor, candid as always, do come back and see us ent— always, do come back and see us ent tetr— always, do come back and see us soon and fair play— always, do come back and see us soon and fair play to— always, do come back and see us soon and fair play to you. it's greet— soon and fair play to you. it's greet tc— soon and fair play to you. it's greet tc neve— soon and fair play to you. it's great to have you— soon and fair play to you. it's great to have you in the studio. text— great to have you in the studio. went ut— great to have you in the studio. went up. rce— great to have you in the studio. next up, joe biden— great to have you in the studio. next up, joe biden wants wait for next up, joe biden wants wait tcr tt— next up, joe biden wants wait tcr tt .— next up, joe biden wants wait tcr tt . rcun— next up, joe biden wants wait for it . four more— next up, joe biden wants wait for it . four more years. i'll be for it. four more years. i'll be teettng— for it. four more years. i'll be teettng wttt— for it. four more years. i'll be dealing with him— for it. four more years. i'll be dealing with him after this .

it's 10:00 it's10:00 and this is mark tcten— it's10:00 and this is mark dolan tonight— it's10:00 and this is mark dolan tonight .— it's10:00 and this is mark dolan tonight. in my take at ten:— dolan tonight. in my take at ten tce— dolan tonight. in my take at ten, joe biden— dolan tonight. in my take at ten, joe biden will this week announce he wants another four weere— announce he wants another four weere tn— announce he wants another four weere tn tne— announce he wants another four years in the white— announce he wants another four years in the white house. may cct— years in the white house. may ccct nett— years in the white house. may ccct nett — years in the white house. may ccct nett atw— years in the white house. may god help us. my full reaction in tuet— god help us. my full reaction in tuet e— god help us. my full reaction in tuet e ccutte— god help us. my full reaction in tuet e ccutte ct— god help us. my full reaction in just a couple of minutes. my newsmaker for— just a couple of minutes. my newsmaker for tonight is tcttttce— newsmaker for tonight is politics, legend and widdecombe. i'll politics, legend and widdecombe. t-tt te— politics, legend and widdecombe. t-tt te eettng— politics, legend and widdecombe. i'll be asking an— politics, legend and widdecombe. i'll be asking an whether the tngtten— i'll be asking an whether the english should— i'll be asking an whether the english should be more patriotic gtven— english should be more patriotic gtven tne— english should be more patriotic gtven tne tect— english should be more patriotic given the fact that— english should be more patriotic given the fact that it's saint tevtt-e— given the fact that it's saint tevtt-e dav-— given the fact that it's saint david's day. happy saint cecrge-e— david's day. happy saint cecrge-e eew— david's day. happy saint cecrge-e tew .- david's day. happy saint george's day , i should say. george's day, i should say. happy— george's day, i should say. nettw setnt— george's day, i should say. happy saint george's day. see, t-ve— happy saint george's day. see, t-ve gct— happy saint george's day. see, t-ve gct tne— happy saint george's day. see, i've got the name— happy saint george's day. see, i've got the name right. that's ncw— i've got the name right. that's how unpatriotic_ i've got the name right. that's how unpatriotic the english are. atec— how unpatriotic the english are. atec. tc— how unpatriotic the english are. also, do-labour_ how unpatriotic the english are. also, do labour still also, do the labour party still neve— also, do the labour party still neveltrctten— have a problem with anti—semitism and with anti—semitism? um, and with everw— anti—semitism? um, and with everw-tncne- anti—semitism? um, and with every phone having every mobile phone having recetvet— every mobile phone having received an— every mobile phone having received an alert at 3:00 today, or received an alert at 3:00 today, crlteeet— received an alert at 3:00 today, orlleast most— received an alert at 3:00 today, or least most phones, or at least most phones, should the government— or at least most phones, should the government stay out of our ttveec— the government stay out of our ttveec went— the government stay out of our lives? mark dolan— the government stay out of our lives? mark dolan tonight is the ncne— lives? mark dolan tonight is the ncne ct— lives? mark dolan tonight is the ncne ct tne— lives? mark dolan tonight is the home of the papers at exactly reco— home of the papers at exactly tcce enert— home of the papers at exactly 1030 sharp with— home of the papers at exactly 1030 sharp with full reaction trcn— 1030 sharp with full reaction trcn nw— 1030 sharp with full reaction trcn nw tcc— 1030 sharp with full reaction from my top pundits tonight who neven-t— from my top pundits tonight who neven-t teen— from my top pundits tonight who haven't been told— from my top pundits tonight who haven't been told what to say ent— haven't been told what to say ent wnc— haven't been told what to say and who don't— haven't been told what to say and who don't follow a script. so and who don't follow a script. sc ttg— and who don't follow a script. sc ttg gueet— and who don't follow a script. sc ttg gueet. ttg— and who don't follow a script. so big guest, big stories and

big so big guest, big stories and ttg cttntcne— so big guest, big stories and big opinions in— so big guest, big stories and big opinions in a— so big guest, big stories and big opinions in a lively hour to tn tuet— big opinions in a lively hour to tn tuet e— big opinions in a lively hour to come in just a moment, i'll be teettng— come in just a moment, i'll be teettng wttt— come in just a moment, i'll be dealing with bumbling joe biden. but dealing with bumbling joe biden. tut tnet.— dealing with bumbling joe biden. tut ttret. tne— dealing with bumbling joe biden. but first, the headlines with the but first, the headlines with tne etwewe— but first, the headlines with the always cognitively healthy ray the always cognitively healthy rtew atttecn— the always cognitively healthy rtew atttecn .— ray addison. mobile- ray addison. mobile phone users did not receive today's emergency test alert . at 3 pm, most people alert. at 3 pm, most people received a message on their home screen along with a sound and vibration for up to ten seconds. however users on some networks, including three, did not. there's also been reports that some people have not been able to make or receive calls since that test. deputy prime minister oliver dowden says the alert could save people's lives in the future. is the case that this has been developed with the national cyber security centre,

which forms part of gchq. there will be a very strict i11 cc ct there will be a very strict procedures in will be a very strict procedures tn ttece— will be a very strict procedures tn ttece tcr— will be a very strict procedures in place for its— will be a very strict procedures in place for its authorisation ent— in place for its authorisation ent tt— in place for its authorisation ent tt wttt— in place for its authorisation and it will only— in place for its authorisation and it will only be used in a ettuettcn— and it will only be used in a situation where— and it will only be used in a situation where your viewers ttvee— situation where your viewers ttvee — situation where your viewers ttvee tn— situation where your viewers lives are in danger. i'm determined— lives are in danger. i'm determined that there is a very ntgn— determined that there is a very ntgn ter— determined that there is a very ntgn ter tcr— determined that there is a very high bar for the— determined that there is a very high bar for the usage of this . high bar for the usage of this. rte— high bar for the usage of this. the tune— high bar for the usage of this. the prime minister— high bar for the usage of this. the prime minister has- high bar for the usage of this. the prime minister has hailed the brave efforts of the uk's armed forces after they helped british diplomats and their families to escape fighting in sudan. they carried out a complex mission in the capital, khartoum , alongside other allies khartoum, alongside other allies . hundreds of civilians have died in the violent conflict between the sudanese army and a rival paramilitary group. foreign secretary james cleverly says the government is continuing to ensure the safety of british nationals who remain in the country . we have taken in the country. we have taken the decision to temporarily close the embassy and to relocate our embassy staff that gives us a the best opportunity to protect our diplomatic

support. back into sudan. but we remain absolutely— back into sudan. but we remain absolutely committed to euttcrt— remain absolutely committed to euttcrt trttten— remain absolutely committed to support british nationals in eugen— support british nationals in suten. we— support british nationals in sudan. we will— support british nationals in sudan. we will do so in close coordination— sudan. we will do so in close coordination with— sudan. we will do so in close coordination with our international partners. but the teet— international partners. but the teet tntng— international partners. but the best thing that— international partners. but the best thing that we can do to euttcrt— best thing that we can do to support british— best thing that we can do to support british nationals and tnteet— support british nationals and indeed everyone— support british nationals and indeed everyone in sudan is tuenet— indeed everyone in sudan is tuenet tne— indeed everyone in sudan is pushed the generals involved in this conflict— pushed the generals involved in this conflict to— pushed the generals involved in this conflict to bring it to an ent.— this conflict to bring it to an ent. ant— this conflict to bring it to an end. and that— this conflict to bring it to an end. and that will remain the tncrttw— end. and that will remain the tncntw ct— end. and that will remain the tncntw ct cu— end. and that will remain the priority of our diplomatic focus in priority of our diplomatic focus tn tne— priority of our diplomatic focus tn tne regtcn— priority of our diplomatic focus in the region . _ priority of our diplomatic focus in the region . in the region. suella braverman has been criticised by an algeria , an asylum seeker, algeria, an asylum seeker, dunng algeria, an asylum seeker, during an extinction rebellion protest outside the home office. 24 year old moon, who crossed the english channel in a small boatin the english channel in a small boat in december, said no human is illegal whilst protesters chanted refugees are welcome here. the comments come after the home secretary said it's crucial that the government has the power to deport migrants without being blocked by the european court of human rights. 11 small boats carrying nearly 500 people made the dangerous crossing yesterday . diane abbott

crossing yesterday. diane abbott has been suspended as a labour mp pending an investigation after she claimed that jewish people are not subject to racism . in an article for the observer newspaper, the former shadow health secretary said jewish people experience prejudice like irish or red headed people, but not racism . she has since not racism. she has since withdrawn the remarks and apologised for any offence caused . however, the labour caused. however, the labour party has called the comments deeply offensive and wrong . and deeply offensive and wrong. and two new pictures of prince louis have been published as he celebrates his fifth birthday today. celebrates his fifth birthday today . he's been photographed today. he's been photographed being pushed in a wheelbarrow by his mother . being pushed in a wheelbarrow by his mother. louis is expected to accompany his siblings in the procession from westminster abbey during the king's coronation next month. we're on tv online on dab+ radio and on tune in to this is gb news. now back to .

back to. mark my back to. mark my thanks to ray addison, who's back in an hour's time. welcome to mark back in an hour's time. welcome tc ttert tcten— back in an hour's time. welcome to mark dolan tonight.- back in an hour's time. welcome to mark dolan tonight. my- to mark dolan tonight. my newsmaker this evening is tcttttce— newsmaker this evening is politics legend— newsmaker this evening is politics legend ann widdecombe. politics legend aim widdecombe. i'll politics legend ann widdecombe. t-tt te— politics legend ann widdecombe. t-tt te eettng— politics legend ann widdecombe. i'll be asking ann— politics legend ann widdecombe. i'll be asking ann whether the tngtten— i'll be asking ann whether the english should— i'll be asking ann whether the english should be more patriotic erten— english should be more patriotic etter ett— english should be more patriotic etter ett tt— english should be more patriotic after all, it is— english should be more patriotic after all, it is saint george's tew. — after all, it is saint george's tew. sc— after all, it is saint george's day- so happy— after all, it is saint george's day. so happy saint george's day to day. so happy saint george's day tc evecnerw— day. so happy saint george's day to everyone south— day. so happy saint george's day to everyone south of the border. atec— to everyone south of the border. atec. tc— to everyone south of the border. atec. tc tne— to everyone south of the border. also, do the labour— to everyone south of the border. also, do the labour party still neve— also, do the labour party still neve e— also, do the labour party still have a problem— also, do the labour party still have a problem with anti—semitism and with every ncttte— anti—semitism and with every ncttte tncne— anti—semitism and with every mobile phone having received an etcrt— mobile phone having received an etert et— mobile phone having received an etert et croo— mobile phone having received an alert at 3:00 pm— mobile phone having received an alert at 3:00 pm today, at least ncet— alert at 3:00 pm today, at least ncet tncnee— alert at 3:00 pm today, at least most phones, should the gcvernnent— most phones, should the government stay out of our lives 7 government stay out of our lives a we-ve— government stay out of our lives a we-ve gct— government stay out of our lives e we-ve gct tne— government stay out of our lives ? we've got the papers at evecttw— ? we've got the papers at exactly 1030 _ ? we've got the papers at exactly 1030 sharp. mark dolan tcntgnt— exactly 1030 sharp. mark dolan tcntgnt te— exactly 1030 sharp. mark dolan tcntgnt te tne— exactly 1030 sharp. mark dolan tonight is the home of the tetere— tonight is the home of the tetere wttt— tonight is the home of the papers with top pundit reaction on papers with top pundit reaction cn ec ttg— papers with top pundit reaction on so big stories,— papers with top pundit reaction on so big stories, big guests ent— on so big stories, big guests ent etwewe— on so big stories, big guests and always big— on so big stories, big guests and always big opinions. a ttvetw— and always big opinions. a ttvetw ncur— and always big opinions. a lively hour to— and always big opinions. a lively hour to come. first, my tetc— lively hour to come. first, my tete .— lively hour to come. first, my tete . at— lively hour to come. first, my tete . at ten— lively hour to come. first, my take . at ten be,— lively hour to come. first, my take . at ten be, be afraid. be take. at ten be, be afraid. be verw— take. at ten be, be afraid. be verw etrett— take. at ten be, be afraid. be verw etrett .— take. at ten be, be afraid. be very afraid . ed— take. at ten be, be afraid. be very afraid . ed president joe very afraid. ed president joe ttten—

very afraid. ed president joe ttten cr— very afraid. ed president joe biden or slo— very afraid. ed president joe biden or slo mo— very afraid. ed president joe biden or slo mo joe as i like to cut— biden or slo mo joe as i like to cett ntn— biden or slo mo joe as i like to cett um, te— biden or slo mo joe as i like to call him, is set— biden or slo mo joe as i like to call him, is set to— biden or slo mo joe as i like to call him, is set to announce ttte— call him, is set to announce the week— call him, is set to announce this week that— call him, is set to announce this week that he'd like to run for this week that he'd like to run tcr wett— this week that he'd like to run tcr wett tcr— this week that he'd like to run for wait for it— this week that he'd like to run for wait for it another four weere— for wait for it another four weere tn— for wait for it another four weere tn tne— for wait for it another four years in the white house. attncugn— years in the white house. attncugn tw— years in the white house. although by the looks of it, he ccutt— although by the looks of it, he ccutt teretw— although by the looks of it, he could barely manage the next tcur— could barely manage the next tcur eewe.— could barely manage the next tcur eewe. tne— could barely manage the next four days. the wobbly leader of the four days. the wobbly leader of tne tree— four days. the wobbly leader of the free world— four days. the wobbly leader of the free world who needs to be rentntet — the free world who needs to be reminded every— the free world who needs to be reminded every ten minutes that nee— reminded every ten minutes that we ectuettw— reminded every ten minutes that he's actually president and he's the he's actually president and he's tne ttret— he's actually president and he's the first commander in chief to neve— the first commander in chief to have more -than- the first commander in chief to have more than security have more nurses than security guerte— have more nurses than security guerteleet— have more nurses than security guerteleet tc— have more nurses than security guards..set to tell- have more nurses than security guards. set to tell american guards. is set to tell american vctee— guards. is set to tell american vctee tnet— guards. is set to tell american voters that he _ guards. is set to tell american voters that he wants to finish tne— voters that he wants to finish tne tct — voters that he wants to finish tne tct even— voters that he wants to finish the job even though it's abundantly— the job even though it's abundantly clear he can barely ttnten— abundantly clear he can barely ttnten e— abundantly clear he can barely finish a sentence— abundantly clear he can barely finish a sentence .— abundantly clear he can barely finish a sentence . does america finish a sentence. does america went— finish a sentence. does america went tcur— finish a sentence. does america went tcur rncre— finish a sentence. does america want four more years of this ? want four more years of this? vcu— want four more years of this? vcu eee— want four more years of this? vcu ttte— want four more years of this? you see this tie— want four more years of this? you see this tie i— want four more years of this? you see this tie i have- want four more years of this? you see this tie i have with the shamrock on it? this was given to me by one of these guys right here was a hell of a rugby player. and he beat the hell of a black and tans. oh, god, yes. that famous rugby team, the ttect— that famous rugby team, the ttect ent— that famous rugby team, the black and tans. _ that famous rugby team, the black and tans. now, i've never teen— black and tans. now, i've never been particularly— black and tans. now, i've never been particularly partisan when it been particularly partisan when tt cee— been particularly partisan when tt tc— been particularly partisan when it comes to american politics, tut— it comes to american politics, tut nw— it comes to american politics, but my preference tends to be for but my preference tends to be tcr tne— but my preference tends to be tcr tne etrcng— but my preference tends to be for the strong candidate rather tnen— for the strong candidate rather tnen tne— for the strong candidate rather than the stronger— for the strong candidate rather

than the stronger party, given the than the stronger party, given tne tect— than the stronger party, given the fact that— than the stronger party, given the fact that it's— than the stronger party, given the fact that it's the values ent— the fact that it's the values ent etttt— the fact that it's the values and skill set— the fact that it's the values and skill set of— the fact that it's the values and skill set of one man or tnet— and skill set of one man or woman that shapes america during tnet— woman that shapes america during tnetr tcur— woman that shapes america during tnetr tcur weere— woman that shapes america during their four years in— woman that shapes america during their four years in charge . their four years in charge. terege— their four years in charge. rerege tnet— their four years in charge. farage that said, the democrats neve— farage that said, the democrats neve trcttect— farage that said, the democrats neve trcttet. tn— farage that said, the democrats have dropped, in my estimation in have dropped, in my estimation tn recent— have dropped, in my estimation in recent years— have dropped, in my estimation in recent years with barack etene— in recent years with barack obama insulting this country by eewtng— obama insulting this country by eewtng wet— obama insulting this country by eewtng we-t te— obama insulting this country by saying we'd be at— obama insulting this country by saying we'd be at the back of tne— saying we'd be at the back of tne gueue— saying we'd be at the back of tne gueue tcr— saying we'd be at the back of the queue for a— saying we'd be at the back of the queue for a trade deal if we teret— the queue for a trade deal if we teret tc— the queue for a trade deal if we dared to leave— the queue for a trade deal if we dared to leave the— the queue for a trade deal if we dared to leave the european untcn. — dared to leave the european untcn. wnet— dared to leave the european union. what a— dared to leave the european union. what a slap in the face. ant— union. what a slap in the face. ant tt— union. what a slap in the face. ant tt wee— union. what a slap in the face. and it was the— union. what a slap in the face. and it was the democratic blue etetee— and it was the democratic blue etetee wnc— and it was the democratic blue states who were— and it was the democratic blue states who were the worst curvewcre— states who were the worst turvewcre ct— states who were the worst purveyors of covid tyranny with tccttcwne— purveyors of covid tyranny with lockdowns and _ purveyors of covid tyranny with lockdowns and mask and vaccine nentetee— lockdowns and mask and vaccine nentetee ter— lockdowns and mask and vaccine mandates far more— lockdowns and mask and vaccine mandates far more egregious and etrtct— mandates far more egregious and etrtct tnen— mandates far more egregious and etrtct tnen tn— mandates far more egregious and strict than in red— mandates far more egregious and strict than in red states like tcn— strict than in red states like ron desantis_ strict than in red states like ron desantis ,_ strict than in red states like ron desantis , florida or greg ron desantis, florida or greg attctt-e— ron desantis, florida or greg abbott's texas— ron desantis, florida or greg abbott's texas .— ron desantis, florida or greg abbott's texas . and it was abbott's texas. and it was ttten-e— abbott's texas. and it was biden's white— abbott's texas. and it was biden's white house who leaned on biden's white house who leaned cn ecctet— biden's white house who leaned on social media— biden's white house who leaned on social media giants like twttter— on social media giants like twttter tc— on social media giants like twitter to destroy free speech ent— twitter to destroy free speech ent cruen— twitter to destroy free speech and crush dissent during covid slo and crush dissent during covid etc nc— and crush dissent during covid etc nc tce— and crush dissent during covid etc nc tce te— and crush dissent during covid slo mo joe is, in— and crush dissent during covid slo mo joe is, in my view, treetttng— slo mo joe is, in my view, treetttng cve— slo mo joe is, in my view, presiding over the downfall of the presiding over the downfall of tne greeteet— presiding over the downfall of the greatest nation on earth. tne— the greatest nation on earth. tne tnttet— the greatest nation on earth. the united states , a global the united states, a global tecc— the united states, a global tecc ct— the united states, a global beacon of enterprise diversity,

tenccrecw— beacon of enterprise diversity, democracy and _ beacon of enterprise diversity, democracy and freedom under slo mo democracy and freedom under slo nc joe— democracy and freedom under slo nc tce anertcen— democracy and freedom under slo mo joe american cities are retttng— mo joe american cities are tetttng etert.— mo joe american cities are falling apart. riven with homelessness, drug abuse , homelessness, drug abuse, vtctence— homelessness, drug abuse, vtctence ent— homelessness, drug abuse, violence and social disorder for ett— violence and social disorder for ett. wnttet— violence and social disorder for all. whilst the— violence and social disorder for all. whilst the most woke treettent— all. whilst the most woke president in— all. whilst the most woke president in history backs ttvtetve— president in history backs divisive causes- president in history backs divisive causes like the black ttvee— divisive causes like the black lives matter— divisive causes like the black lives matter movement effectively _ lives matter movement effectively marxists who want to teetrcw— effectively marxists who want to teetrcw tne — effectively marxists who want to destroy the nuclear family, tetunt— destroy the nuclear family, tetunt tne — destroy the nuclear family, defund the police, and end cetttetten— defund the police, and end cetttetten .— defund the police, and end capitalism . am— defund the police, and end capitalism . am now be clear , capitalism. am now be clear, te— capitalism. am now be clear, racism is the— capitalism. am now be clear, racism is the most evil stain on nunenttw— racism is the most evil stain on nunenttw ent— racism is the most evil stain on humanity and casts an appalling enetcw— humanity and casts an appalling enetcw cve— humanity and casts an appalling shadow over america society. but tttt— shadow over america society. but tttt te— shadow over america society. but tttt te nct— shadow over america society. but tttt te nct tne— shadow over america society. but blm is not the answer. and in etc— blm is not the answer. and in etc nc— blm is not the answer. and in etc tce— blm is not the answer. and in etc tce te— blm is not the answer. and in slo mo, joe is more than happy to slo mo, joe is more than happy tc eee— slo mo, joe is more than happy to see teenagers— slo mo, joe is more than happy to see teenagers mutilated with gender— to see teenagers mutilated with gender reassignment surgery and tutertw— gender reassignment surgery and puberty blockers— gender reassignment surgery and puberty blockers in order to tertetuete— puberty blockers in order to perpetuate the _ puberty blockers in order to perpetuate the madness of gender ttectcgw— perpetuate the madness of gender ttectcgw. wntcn— perpetuate the madness of gender ideology, which says you can cnenge— ideology, which says you can cnenge wcur— ideology, which says you can change your sex— ideology, which says you can change your sex whatever your ege.— change your sex whatever your ege. regertteee— change your sex whatever your age, regardless of— change your sex whatever your age, regardless of the consequences . don't forget, this consequences. don't forget, this is consequences. don't forget, this te tne— consequences. don't forget, this is the president— consequences. don't forget, this is the president who presided tne— is the president who presided over the catastrophic surrender to over the catastrophic surrender tc tne — over the catastrophic surrender to the taliban— over the catastrophic surrender to the taliban in—

over the catastrophic surrender to the taliban in afghan de—man, teevtng— to the taliban in afghan de—man, leaving billions— to the taliban in afghan de—man, leaving billions of— to the taliban in afghan de—man, leaving billions of dollars wcrtn— leaving billions of dollars wcrtn ct— leaving billions of dollars worth of military equipment in the worth of military equipment in tne tente— worth of military equipment in tne nente ct— worth of military equipment in the hands of those lawless woman tntng— the hands of those lawless woman hating, homophobic— the hands of those lawless woman hating, homophobic gangsters. the hating, homophobic gangsters. tne tettten— hating, homophobic gangsters. the taliban themselves . the taliban themselves. arnence-e— the taliban themselves. america's clumsy withdrawal was a america's clumsy withdrawal was e ncent— america's clumsy withdrawal was e ncent ct— america's clumsy withdrawal was a moment of national shame for a greet— a moment of national shame for a greet ent— a moment of national shame for a once great and proud country. tne— once great and proud country. tne eccncrnw— once great and proud country. the economy is— once great and proud country. the economy is in the toilet to wttt— the economy is in the toilet to wttn tnet— the economy is in the toilet to with that terrifying debt cetttng — with that terrifying debt ceiling set— with that terrifying debt ceiling set to- with that terrifying debt ceiling set to go even higher, demonstrate— ceiling set to go even higher, demonstrate that for all their economic growth— demonstrate that for all their economic growth , america is so economic growth, america is so cvertw— economic growth, america is so cvertw evereget— economic growth, america is so overly averaged now, so indebted . ant— overly averaged now, so indebted . ant tt-e— overly averaged now, so indebted . ant tt-e e— overly averaged now, so indebted . and it's a business model that wcutt— . and it's a business model that wcutt teet— . and it's a business model that would keep even— . and it's a business model that would keep even the notorious ttnenctet— would keep even the notorious financial crook— would keep even the notorious financial crook bernard madoff, ewete— financial crook bernard madoff, ewete et— financial crook bernard madoff, awake at night— financial crook bernard madoff, awake at night ,_ financial crook bernard madoff, awake at night, worrying and cut— awake at night, worrying and four more years— awake at night, worrying and four more years of biden would be four more years of biden would te tet— four more years of biden would te tet tcr— four more years of biden would be bad for britain.— four more years of biden would be bad for britain. this treettent— be bad for britain. this president clearly has a chip on his shoulder— president clearly has a chip on his shoulder about this country retuetng— his shoulder about this country retuetng tc— his shoulder about this country refusing to give— his shoulder about this country refusing to give interviews to the refusing to give interviews to tne ttc— refusing to give interviews to the bbc because— refusing to give interviews to the bbc because it's british etttng— the bbc because it's british etttng wttt— the bbc because it's british siding with the— the bbc because it's british siding with the eu on brexit and the siding with the eu on brexit and tne wcrtnern— siding with the eu on brexit and the northern ireland protocol etetttng— the northern ireland protocol etetttng cn— the northern ireland protocol etetttng cn e— the northern ireland protocol stalling on a trade deal that trunn— stalling on a trade deal that trumpv tcr— stalling on a trade deal that trump, for all— stalling on a trade deal that trump, for all his sins, would neve— trump, for all his sins, would neve etgnet— trump, for all his sins, would have signed in— trump, for all his sins, would have signed in his sleep and tencuetw— have signed in his sleep and famously snubbing our great king

cnertee— famously snubbing our great king cnertee tcr— famously snubbing our great king charles for what— famously snubbing our great king charles for what is— famously snubbing our great king charles for what is the biggest constitutional— charles for what is the biggest constitutional moment for this ccuntrw— constitutional moment for this ccuntrw tn— constitutional moment for this ccuntrw tn ao— constitutional moment for this country in 70 years. the coronation— country in 70 years. the coronation so- country in 70 years. the coronation so much for the etectet— coronation so much for the special relationship ship given the special relationship ship given tne tnreet— special relationship ship given the threat of— special relationship ship given the threat of china economically . ntttterw— the threat of china economically . ntttterw ent— the threat of china economically , military and also— the threat of china economically , military and also diplomats. ntncttew— , military and also diplomats. ntncttew we— , military and also diplomats. hinckley we need a strong and eucceeetut— hinckley we need a strong and successful usa— hinckley we need a strong and successful usa .— hinckley we need a strong and successful usa . we've got the successful usa. we've got the cttcette— successful usa. we've got the cttcette ntgnt— successful usa. we've got the opposite right now under joe ttten— opposite right now under joe ttten. tt— opposite right now under joe biden. if america rises, we all nee— biden. if america rises, we all tt— biden. if america rises, we all rise. if america— biden. if america rises, we all rise. if america falls , we all rise. if america falls, we all tett— rise. if america falls, we all tett .— rise. if america falls, we all tett . tcur— rise. if america falls, we all fall . four more— rise. if america falls, we all fall . four more years of biden fall. four more years of biden wcutt— fall. four more years of biden wcutt te— fall. four more years of biden would be suicide— fall. four more years of biden would be suicide for america . would be suicide for america. etc— would be suicide for america. stc nc— would be suicide for america. stc tce— would be suicide for america. slo mo. joe has— would be suicide for america. slo mo. joe has got to go . slo mo. joe has got to go. wnet-e— slo mo. joe has got to go. wnet-e wcur— slo mo. joe has got to go. what's your view? mark gbnews.uk reecttng— what's your view? mark gbnews.uk reecttng tc— what's your view? mark gbnews.uk reecttng tc nw— what's your view? mark gbnews.uk reacting to my take— what's your view? mark gbnews.uk reacting to my take at 10:00, cuertten— reacting to my take at 10:00, guardian columnist and author rcttw— guardian columnist and author rcttw tcwntee— guardian columnist and author polly toynbee, writer and tcttttcet— polly toynbee, writer and political commentator, jo—anne wetter— political commentator, jo—anne wetter ent— political commentator, jo—anne nadler and broadcaster and ttnenctet— nadler and broadcaster and financial analyst albie amankona attte— financial analyst albie amankona attte .— financial analyst albie amankona attte . tcur— financial analyst albie amankona albie . four more— financial analyst albie amankona albie . four more years of biden. albie. four more years of biden. vee— albie. four more years of biden. vee cr— albie. four more years of biden. vee cr nc— albie. four more years of biden. vee cr nc c — albie. four more years of biden. yes or no ? well,— albie. four more years of biden. yes or no ? well, i— albie. four more years of biden. yes or no ? �*ifvtt:4 11

what would the alternate be? and i think until the republicans decide who their presidential nominee is, if they decide it's donald trump, we're sort of asking a question of which is the lesser evil. i don't think donald trump would be particularly good for britain either , either. so i think either, either. so i think i think we're going to have to wait and see who the republicans put as our presidential nominee. albie never been a albie i've never been a cheerleader for donald trump. i've fitness for i've questioned his fitness for ntgn— i've questioned his fitness for ntgn ctttce— i've questioned his fitness for ntgn ctttce. t— i've questioned his fitness for high office. i don't like his tentete— high office. i don't like his denials about— high office. i don't like his denials about the election loss of denials about the election loss ct coco.— denials about the election loss ct acto- tut— denials about the election loss of 2020. but he's— denials about the election loss of 2020. but he's an anglophile. we of 2020. but he's an anglophile. we wcutt— of 2020. but he's an anglophile. we would probably have a trade teet— we would probably have a trade teet wttt— we would probably have a trade deal with the— we would probably have a trade deal with the united states now, at deal with the united states now, et teeet— deal with the united states now, et teeet tn— deal with the united states now, at least in the— deal with the united states now, at least in the works, if he was tne— at least in the works, if he was tne treettent— at least in the works, if he was the president and— at least in the works, if he was the president and he'd be etteenng— the president and he'd be etteenng et— the president and he'd be appearing at the coronation in a cute— appearing at the coronation in a ccutte ct— appearing at the coronation in a couple of weekends time. look t-n — couple of weekends time. look t-n nct— couple of weekends time. look t-n nct e— couple of weekends time. look t-n nct e ten— couple of weekends time. look i'm not a fan of— couple of weekends time. look i'm not a fan of donald trump. i'm not a fan of donald trump. t tcn-t— i'm not a fan of donald trump. r em ttte— i'm not a fan of donald trump. i don't like donald— i'm not a fan of donald trump. i don't like donald trump.- i don't like donald trump. that's not news anyone. that's not news to anyone. i would the republicans to would like the republicans to make decision with their make a good decision with their leader. can't do leader. but albie, you can't do any points . any of those points. conservatives at making a tectetcn— conservatives at making a decision can't— conservatives at making a decision can't deny those points tnet— decision can't deny those points tnet-te— decision can't deny those points that-isianglophile. i that trump is an anglophile. unttte— that trump is an anglophile. unlike _well,- that trump is an anglophile. unlike _well, i- that trump is an anglophile.

unlike well, i think unlike joe biden. well, i think tcrte— unlike joe biden. well, i think boris johnson— unlike joe biden. well, i think boris johnson was the first teeter— boris johnson was the first leader-that- boris johnson was the first leader-that joe- boris johnson was the first- leader-that joe-spoke leader that that joe biden spoke to leader that that joe biden spoke tc etter— leader that that joe biden spoke tc etter ne— leader that that joe biden spoke to after he was— leader that that joe biden spoke to after he was elected as the treettent. — to after he was elected as the treettent. sn— to after he was elected as the president. t:t1:t11 c president. so, look, i don't think joe joe biden hates the united kingdom. what i would like are new, fresh, like to see are two new, fresh, young presidential candidates at the next general election in the united states of america. i don't particularly want to see joe all donald trump on joe biden all donald trump on the ballot paper. joe an nadler would donald trump be the lesser of two evils in the white house to joe biden? i without doubt. i mean without doubt donald trump would be preferable to joe biden because it's hard to think of who's could be of anybody who's who could be worse than joe biden the worse than joe biden for all the reasons that specified for worse than joe biden for all the reashugelyit specified for worse than joe biden for all the reashugely politically ified for worse than joe biden for all the reashugely politically corrupt' the hugely politically corrupt regime. in effect, i mean morally corrupt regime that he's that he's overseen over the last nearly four years. i think that he's been a disaster. he started off badly and he got even worse. he started off by passing about 75 executive orders as having the democrats having spent most

of their campaign complaining about how overbearing donald trump was. and then he comes in and does all these incredibly undemocratic things . but there undemocratic things. but there are two things here, aren't there? essentially, do we want biden himself or do we want to get rid of the democrat boss? and i think that if we were to get rid of biden, we're not quite sure who else would take over the democrat race. it could be worse. it could be somebody like gavin newsom from california has really seen california who has really seen that virtually that state kind of virtually fall into the sea in terms of the state of the economically and the chaos there socially and law and order having completely collapsed. but i would like to see somebody like ron desantis , see somebody like ron desantis, glenn youngkin, possibly take on whoever leads the democrats. listen polly toynbee fur is many character flaws. bill listen polly toynbee fur is many character flaws . bill clinton character flaws. bill clinton was a colossal— ii bill clinton was a colossal intellect. barack etene— was a colossal intellect. barack ctene .— was a colossal intellect. barack ctene . gutte— was a colossal intellect. barack otene . gutte e— was a colossal intellect. barack

obama , quite a uniting figure obama, quite a uniting figure for obama, quite a uniting figure tcr 2— obama, quite a uniting figure tcr z tc— obama, quite a uniting figure tcr z tc 2— obama, quite a uniting figure for 2 to 2 terms— obama, quite a uniting figure for 2 to 2 terms as president, tne— for 2 to 2 terms as president, the democrats— for 2 to 2 terms as president, the democrats could do so much tetter— the democrats could do so much tetter tnen— the democrats could do so much better than biden.— the democrats could do so much better than biden. well you cncw.— better than biden. well you tncw. tnene— better than biden. well you know, there are— better than biden. well you know, there are always better tectte— know, there are always better tectte etcut— know, there are always better people about than are leaders of terttee — people about than are leaders of tentee. vcu— people about than are leaders of parties. you look— people about than are leaders of parties. you look at— people about than are leaders of parties. 1/t1::t. parties. you look at the whole of the talent of america and look at their political class and you might say so and might say of this country, too. say that of this country, too. but i thought your analysis was outrageous, ageist, start outrageous, ageist, for a start . i mean, this man, this man has huge experience and he has done very, very well. what do you mean? the economy down the toilet, do you mean compared with our economy ? i mean, they with our economy? i mean, they are he has lifted their economy massively with an enormous investment package , which he got investment package, which he got through the house despite not having more borrowed billions , having more borrowed billions, which was brilliant. and it has hugely boosted their economy and the idea that we sitting in britain at the bottom of the g seven for growth can say they our economy is in the toilet and that's just laughable. well, i mean, really, you have you have a little bit of sense of where

we sit in the world, some humility in terms of america being a very great country, which i think it is. and i think it's being well led at the moment. hard times for all countries around the world. but, you know , i think his approach you know, i think his approach is to polly, polly . i you know, i think his approach is to polly, polly. i think he's i think he's been a strong and good president. could you seriously polly, old seriously jokes about polly, old i mean, he could be a hundred he could be a hundred for all i care as long as he knows what day of the week it is. the issue i've got is day of the week it is. the issue t-ve gct te wttt— day of the week it is. the issue i've got is with his— t:t?g c the issue i've got is with his cognition ent— i've got is with his cognition and we've seen— i've got is with his cognition and we've seen it in clip after cttc— and we've seen it in clip after cttt. tneee— and we've seen it in clip after clip, press conference after teee— clip, press conference after press conference. the guy's a ttetttttw— press conference. the guy's a ttetttttw-wcu— press conference. the guy's a liability. you seriously liability. can you seriously enctree— liability. can you seriously. endorse—health endorse him? just on health grcunte— endorse him? just on health grcunte-c - endorse him? just on health grounds-? oh,- endorse him? just on health grounds-? oh, i- endorse him? just on health grounds ? cj 11 grounds alone? oh, i see. because. because he's old. the fact that he makes slips like george w bush, for instance, who thought he was in austria when he i mean , you he was in australia. i mean, you know, could go through some know, we could go through some common mistakes that presidents have made. and i think particularly george w bush's book of gaffes is quite considerable doesn't you know , considerable doesn't you know, his worst gaffe. of course , was his worst gaffe. of course, was iraq. alas, it was ours to . but

iraq. alas, it was ours to. but iraq. alas, it was ours to. but i think the idea that you're pinning it all on on age, i think what matters is what you do. i was a huge admirer of barack obama and i was disappointed in what he failed to achieve. kyiv it seems to me that within the four years, biden has already achieved considerably more in pulling up the economy of that country and its global status after the disastrous years of donald trump. i mean, really catastrophic . and donald trump , catastrophic. and donald trump, you know, practically brought an end to american democracy by challenging elections , by challenging elections, by refusing, like some banana republic, refusing to accept defeat. the first rule of democracy is that the losers have to lose gracefully. otherwise, we're into civil war. well, i do. i do. i company tengercue— well, i do. i do. i company dangerous man.— well, i do. i do. i company dangerous man. i- �*ifvtt:4 t:t1::t i do. i company dangerous man. i part company wttt— dangerous man. i part company wttn tne— dangerous man. i part company with the donald— dangerous man. i part company with the donald on that one. but in with the donald on that one. but tn tne— with the donald on that one. but tn tne ent— with the donald on that one. but tn tne ent t— with the donald on that one. but tn tne ent t tc— with the donald on that one. but in the end i do consider that trunc— in the end i do consider that trunt wcutt— in the end i do consider that trump would be— in the end i do consider that trump would be the lesser of two evtte— trump would be the lesser of two evtte tcr— trump would be the lesser of two evtte tcr tne — trump would be the lesser of two evils for the next— trump would be the lesser of two evils for the next four years. tut— evils for the next four years. tut rcttw— evils for the next four years. but polly doesn't agree. that's the but polly doesn't agree. that's

tne negtc— but polly doesn't agree. that's tne negtc ct— but polly doesn't agree. that's the magic of this— but polly doesn't agree. that's the magic of this show. it's all etcut— the magic of this show. it's all about opinion.— the magic of this show. it's all about opinion. what's yours ? about opinion. what's yours? wett— about opinion. what's yours? mark gbnews.uk . next up, should mark gbnews.uk. next up, should the mark gbnews.uk. next up, should tne tngtten— mark gbnews.uk. next up, should tne tngtten te— mark gbnews.uk. next up, should the english be more patriotic? the engliin be more patriotic? do the english be more patriotic? tc tetcur— the english be more patriotic? do labour still— the english be more patriotic? do labour still have a problem wttt— do labour still have a problem with antisemitism_ do labour still have a problem with antisemitism and also we'll tett— with antisemitism and also we'll tett etcut— with antisemitism and also we'll tett etcut e— with antisemitism and also we'll talk about a couple of other big etcrtee— talk about a couple of other big etcrtee tn— talk about a couple of other big stories in the— talk about a couple of other big stories in the papers that may eurtrtee— stories in the papers that may eurtnee wcu. — stories in the papers that may surprise you. that's an widdecombe- surprise you. that's an widdecombe next as my newsmaker

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andrew's day or saint david's day , should the english be more day, should the english be more patriotic ? erg more aware of patriotic? erg more aware of saint george's day? i mean, you're saint george's day? i mean, wcure gutte— saint george's day? i mean, you're quite right— saint george's day? i mean, you're quite right to- cigt: jr?g?’ i mean, you're quite right to mention setnt— you're quite right to mention saint patrick's— you're quite right to mention saint patrick's day. i mean, tte— saint patrick's day. i mean, come on. it's the- saint patrick's day. i mean, come on. it's the middle of tent. — come on. it's the middle of tent. tne— come on. it's the middle of lent. the irish— come on. it's the middle of lent. the irish don't care about tnet.— lent. the irish don't care about tnet. tnew— lent. the irish don't care about tnet. tnew tut— lent. the irish don't care about that. they put on— lent. the irish don't care about that. they put on their shamrock.— that. they put on their shamrock. they have a drink. they— shamrock. they have a drink. tnew tc— shamrock. they have a drink. tnew tc tnet— shamrock. they have a drink. they do their jigs. they really enjoy— they do their jigs. they really entcw setnt— they do their jigs. they really enjoy saint patrick's day at ecncct— enjoy saint patrick's day at ecncct .— enjoy saint patrick's day at ecncct . tt— enjoy saint patrick's day at school . it was— enjoy saint patrick's day at school . it was the biggest event school. it was the biggest event of school. it was the biggest event ct tne — school. it was the biggest event ct tne ecncct— school. it was the biggest event of the school year. _ school. it was the biggest event of the school year. i was in a cetncttc— of the school year. i was in a catholic convent— of the school year. i was in a catholic convent and the nuns ueet— catholic convent and the nuns ueet tc— catholic convent and the nuns ueet tc ueet— catholic convent and the nuns used to used to— catholic convent and the nuns used to used to really celebrate it used to used to really celebrate tt ent— used to used to really celebrate tt ent nct— used to used to really celebrate it and not with— used to used to really celebrate it and not with drink, i hasten to it and not with drink, i hasten tc etrt— it and not with drink, i hasten tc ett. tut— it and not with drink, i hasten to add, but they— it and not with drink, i hasten to add, but they used to really cetetrete— to add, but they used to really celebrate saint— to add, but they used to really celebrate saint patrick's day. it celebrate saint patrick's day. tt wee— celebrate saint patrick's day. tt e— celebrate saint patrick's day. tt e ttg— celebrate saint patrick's day. it was a big thing. now everwtctw— it was a big thing. now everybody knows about saint retrtct-e— everybody knows about saint retrtct-e dav-— everybody knows about saint patrick's day. you don't have to be patrick's day. you don't have to te tnen— patrick's day. you don't have to te trten tc— patrick's day. you don't have to be irish to know— patrick's day. you don't have to be irish to know about saint retrtct-e— be irish to know about saint retrtct-el— be irish to know about saint patrick's-. um,- be irish to know about saint patrick's . um, but who patrick's day. um, but who cutette— patrick's day. um, but who cutette e— patrick's day. um, but who outside a handful of very cetncttc— outside a handful of very patriotic brits— outside a handful of very patriotic brits really . albie patriotic brits really. albie tcueee— patriotic brits really. albie focuses on saint george's day ent— focuses on saint george's day ent eewe— focuses on saint george's day ent eewe on— focuses on saint george's day ent saysv on .— focuses on saint george's day and says, oh , saint george's day and says, oh, saint george's day is and says, oh, saint george's day te ccntng. — and says, oh, saint george's day te ccntng. we— and says, oh, saint george's day is coming. we must— and says, oh, saint george's day is coming. we must do something to is coming. we must do something tc cetetrete— is coming. we must do something to celebrate. they— is coming. we must do something to celebrate. they don't. how nee— to celebrate. they don't. how nee setnt— to celebrate. they don't. how has saint george's day and tnteet—

has saint george's day and tnteet en— has saint george's day and indeed an the— has saint george's day and indeed an the flag of saint cecrge— indeed an the flag of saint cecrge tetng— indeed an the flag of saint george being stigmatised or even tencnteet— george being stigmatised or even tencnteet tw— george being stigmatised or even demonised by those with a tcttttcet— demonised by those with a political axe— demonised by those with a political axe to— demonised by those with a political axe to grind ? oh, political axe to grind? oh, wett— political axe to grind? oh, wett wee— political axe to grind? oh, wett wee. we — political axe to grind? oh, well, yes, we all remember the tencue— well, yes, we all remember the tencue tweet— well, yes, we all remember the famous tweet or— well, yes, we all remember the famous tweet or whatever it was. if famous tweet or whatever it was. tt tnere — famous tweet or whatever it was. tt tnere wee— famous tweet or whatever it was. if there were tweets— famous tweet or whatever it was. if there were tweets in those tewe — if there were tweets in those daysv tnet— if there were tweets in those days, um, that a— if there were tweets in those days, um, that a labour frontbencher_ days, um, that a labour frontbencher put round of a ttcture— frontbencher put round of a ttcture ct— frontbencher put round of a ttcture ct e— frontbencher put round of a picture of a white van and in tne— picture of a white van and in tne wtntcw— picture of a white van and in the window behind was a saint cecrge-e— the window behind was a saint cecrge-e tteg— the window behind was a saint george's flag and _ the window behind was a saint george's flag and a very, very rute— george's flag and a very, very rude comment— george's flag and a very, very rude comment suggesting, you cncw.— rude comment suggesting, you tncw. tnet— rude comment suggesting, you know, that this— rude comment suggesting, you know, that this was sort of some far know, that this was sort of some ter rtgnt— know, that this was sort of some far right because— know, that this was sort of some far right because there was a tent— far right because there was a saint george's— far right because there was a saint george's day flag in the wtntcw. — saint george's day flag in the wtntcw. sc— saint george's day flag in the window. so there's certainly teen— window. so there's certainly teen en— window. so there's certainly been an attempt to stigmatise it. been an attempt to stigmatise t. t— been an attempt to stigmatise t. t ee— been an attempt to stigmatise t. t ee wcu— been an attempt to stigmatise it. i as you know,— been an attempt to stigmatise it. i as you know, you know, trcn— it. i as you know, you know, trcn nw— it. i as you know, you know, from my previous- it. i as you know, you know, from my previous statements, i'm verw— from my previous statements, i'm verw ccncernet— from my previous statements, i'm very concerned about the state of very concerned about the state ct tne— very concerned about the state ct tne wntcn— very concerned about the state of the union at— very concerned about the state of the union at the moment. tneretcre— of the union at the moment. tneretcre t— of the union at the moment. therefore i do— of the union at the moment. therefore i do focus heavily on the therefore i do focus heavily on tne uncn— therefore i do focus heavily on the union jack— therefore i do focus heavily on the union jack on— therefore i do focus heavily on the union jack on the uk, rather tnen— the union jack on the uk, rather tnenltte— the union jack on the uk, rather than-its individual- the union jack on the uk, rather than its individual parts. than on its individual parts. tut— than on its individual parts. but nevertheless, i think we encutt— but nevertheless, i think we encutt te— but nevertheless, i think we encutt te e— but nevertheless, i think we should be a bit— but nevertheless, i think we should be a bit more enthused teettc. — should be a bit more enthused teettc. t— should be a bit more enthused tastic. i completely- should be a bit more enthused tastic. i r?gi1:r1: should be a bit more enthused tastic. ti.t::t11 ?g \tt::ttt tastic. i completely agree. now you're not one for cancel culture either , anne, but do you culture either, anne, but do you think diane abbott should be expelled labour party expelled from the labour party for comments ? acas

for her comments? acas underplaying anti—semitism and racism to other minority groups ? well, look, expelling her, euetenttng— ? well, look, expelling her, suspending her,— 7’ well, look, expelling her, suspending her, taking the whip ewew— suspending her, taking the whip ewew. wntcn— suspending her, taking the whip away, which they've done. of course, those _ away, which they've done. of course, those things are simply vtrtue— course, those things are simply virtue signalling.— course, those things are simply virtue signalling. they don't ectuettw— virtue signalling. they don't actually tackle— virtue signalling. they don't actually tackle the real problem tnet— actually tackle the real problem tnet ttere— actually tackle the real problem tnet tnere te— actually tackle the real problem that there is in— actually tackle the real problem that there is in the— actually tackle the real problem that there is in the labour party— that there is in the labour rertw ent— that there is in the labour party and it's— that there is in the labour party and it's grown over the weee— party and it's grown over the wee ant— party and it's grown over the wee. ant tt— party and it's grown over the years. and it began with a very pro—palestinian— years. and it began with a very pro—palestinian outlook which reeuttet— pro—palestinian outlook which reeuttet tn— pro—palestinian outlook which resulted in huge— pro—palestinian outlook which resulted in huge criticism of tne— resulted in huge criticism of tne tereett — resulted in huge criticism of the israeli government. now any gcvernnent— the israeli government. now any gcvernnent cen— the israeli government. now any government can be— the israeli government. now any government can be criticised. if i government can be criticised. if t eew— government can be criticised. if t eew tnet— government can be criticised. if t eew tnet t— government can be criticised. if i say that i think— government can be criticised. if i say that i think macron is a tcct— i say that i think macron is a tcct. wntcn— i say that i think macron is a fool, which i— i say that i think macron is a fool, which i do— i say that i think macron is a fool, which i do by the way, tceen-t— fool, which i do by the way, doesn't mean— fool, which i do by the way, doesn't mean that i think all tne— doesn't mean that i think all tne tencn— doesn't mean that i think all the french are— doesn't mean that i think all the french are fools. you know, t-n — the french are fools. you know, t-n nct— the french are fools. you know, i'm not attacking— the french are fools. you know, i'm not attacking the french. t-n — i'm not attacking the french. t-n ettecttng— i'm not attacking the french. i'm attacking macron. i'm ettecttng— i'm attacking macron. i'm etttt-eng— i'm attacking macron. i'm att it's always— i'm attacking macron. i'm att it's always acceptable to so it's always acceptable to crtttctee— so it's always acceptable to crtttctee e— so it's always acceptable to criticise a foreign government. tut— criticise a foreign government. tut wnet— criticise a foreign government. tut wnet te— criticise a foreign government. but what is not— criticise a foreign government. but what is not acceptable is to extent— but what is not acceptable is to extent tnet— but what is not acceptable is to extend that to— but what is not acceptable is to extend that to encompass the people-— extend that to encompass the tectte. ant— extend that to encompass the tectte. ant t— extend that to encompass the people. and i think one of the ncet— people. and i think one of the ncet tetttng— people. and i think one of the most telling things is when tectte— most telling things is when tectte etert— most telling things is when people start talking about jews as people start talking about jews ee tetter— people start talking about jews as rather than— people start talking about jews as rather than israelis, then , as rather than israelis, then, you— as rather than israelis, then, wcu cncw.— as rather than israelis, then, you know, you're— as rather than israelis, then, you know, you're into a tttterent—

you know, you're into a different territory , you're into different territory, you're into reet— different territory, you're into reet tnet-utce.— different territory, you're into real prejudice. and i think tretuttce— real prejudice. and i think tretuttce te— real prejudice. and i think prejudice is serious. i don't tntnt— prejudice is serious. i don't think diane— prejudice is serious. i don't think diane abbott should be evicted— think diane abbott should be expelled because she's etctcgteect— expelled because she's apologised. you know, she said it apologised. you know, she said tt wee— apologised. you know, she said tt e— apologised. you know, she said tt e ttret— apologised. you know, she said it was a first draft. well, yes, it was a first draft. well, yes, tt new— it was a first draft. well, yes, tt new neve— it was a first draft. well, yes, it may have been,— it was a first draft. well, yes, it may have been, but that means tncee— it may have been, but that means tncee tncugnte— it may have been, but that means those thoughts were in her head . ant.— those thoughts were in her head . ant. wcu— those thoughts were in her head . ant. wcu cncw.— those thoughts were in her head . and, you know, if— those thoughts were in her head . and, you know, if it was a wet— . and, you know, if it was a ttret etert.— . and, you know, if it was a first draft, the— . and, you know, if it was a first draft, the thoughts were in first draft, the thoughts were tn ner— first draft, the thoughts were tn ner ncet.— first draft, the thoughts were in her head. otherwise she wcuttn-t— in her head. otherwise she wouldn't drafted them. but wouldn't have drafted them. but ene-e— wouldn't have drafted them. but she's apologised. _ wouldn't have drafted them. but she's apologised. she's a significant— she's apologised. she's a significant figure in the labour party,— significant figure in the labour party, whatever— significant figure in the labour party, whatever i— significant figure in the labour party, whatever i may think of net. — party, whatever i may think of net. vcu— party, whatever i may think of her. you know,— party, whatever i may think of her. you know, she's an her. you know, she's done an ewtut— her. you know, she's done an ewtut tct— her. you know, she's done an awful lot-labour- her. you know, she's done an awful lot-labour .- her. you know, she's done an awful lot labour . i don't awful lot for labour. i don't tntnt—evtet- awful lot for labour. i don'ti think—expel her. awful lot for labour. i don't. think—expel her. i think they should expel her. i tntnt— think they should expel her. i think-reveals- think they should expel her. i think reveals labour think this just reveals labour for think this just reveals labour tcr-te— think this just reveals labour tcr-te ent— think this just reveals labour for-is and i'm- think this just reveals labour for is and i'm not sure for what it is and i'm not sure wnet— for what it is and i'm not sure wnet wcu— for what it is and i'm not sure wnet wcu wee— for what it is and i'm not sure what you were up— for what it is and i'm not sure what you were up to at 3:00 this etternccn. — what you were up to at 3:00 this afternoon. i'm— what you were up to at 3:00 this afternoon. i'm hoping- what you were up to at 3:00 this afternoon. 11g 11g c afternoon. i'm hoping. hoping it was high tea at the ritz, but this is what happened to my excellent cal. take excellent producer, cal. take a listen . cal, your reaction to listen. cal, your reaction to what just happened. horrific look, i feel violated . poor cal

look, i feel violated. poor cal vtctetet— look, i feel violated. poor cal violated. not for the first time. after all, he works on mark dolan tonight. right. and did your phone go off? and do you think this is an example of government overreach ? well, the government overreach? well, the answer to government overreach? well, the tc tnet— government overreach? well, the answer to that is— government overreach? well, the answer to that is yes,— government overreach? well, the answer to that is yes, it- g i c well, the answer to that is yes, it did go ctt. — answer to that is yes, it did go ctt. ant— answer to that is yes, it did go ctt. ant nc— answer to that is yes, it did go ctt. ant t— answer to that is yes, it did go off. and no, i don't— answer to that is yes, it did go off. and no, i don't think it's overreach. oh,— off. and no, i don't think it's overreach. oh, poor diddums you cncw.— overreach. oh, poor diddums you tncw. tt— overreach. oh, poor diddums you tncw. tt wee— overreach. oh, poor diddums you know, it was horrific. was it you— know, it was horrific. was it wcu-ccct— know, it was horrific. was it wcu-ccct ecut- know, it was horrific. was it you poor soul. oh, dear. you know, poor soul. oh, dear. scnetctw.— you know, poor soul. oh, dear. scnetctw. wcu— you know, poor soul. oh, dear. somebody, you look after somebody, you know, look after ntn— somebody, you know, look after ntn.|neen.— somebody, you know, look after him. mean, honestly, it was him. i mean, honestly, it was a non—event . the— him. i mean, honestly, it was a non—event . the thing went. non—event. the thing went. tcce.— non—event. the thing went. ttcct. ttccn— non—event. the thing went. bloop, bloop, bloop, bloop , bloop, bloop, bloop, bloop, ttcct. — bloop, bloop, bloop, bloop, ttcct. -wee- bloop, bloop, bloop, bloop, bloop. -was it.- bloop, bloop, bloop, bloop, bloop. -was it. was bloop. and that was it. that was it. and all this fuss, all- bloop.11t: c c and all this fuss, all this it. and all this fuss, all this cveege tn— it. and all this fuss, all this coverage in the— c and all this fuss, all this coverage in the press, all this tett— coverage in the press, all this tett ct— coverage in the press, all this talk of civil— coverage in the press, all this talk of civil liberties, and it went— talk of civil liberties, and it went ttte.— talk of civil liberties, and it went blip, blip,— talk of civil liberties, and it went blip, blip, blip, blip. ant— went blip, blip, blip, blip. ant tnet— went blip, blip, blip, blip. and that was— went blip, blip, blip, blip. and that was it.— went blip, blip, blip, blip. and that was it. and- went blip, blip, blip, blip. and that was it. and we're supposed to be traumatised by that. oh, spare me. spare me. tut— that. oh, spare me. spare me. tut-wcu— that. oh, spare me. spare me. tut-wcu-ant- that. oh, spare me. spare me. but you and that but don't you think. and that this kind of technology could be leveraged to control our lives , leveraged to control our lives, all technology can be leveraged to control our lives . i all technology can be leveraged to control our lives. i mean artificial intelligence- i c i mean artificial intelligence at the cncent— artificial intelligence at the cncent te— artificial intelligence at the cncent te e— artificial intelligence at the moment is a genuine worry. i wcuttn-t— moment is a genuine worry. i wcuttn-t wcrrw— moment is a genuine worry. i wouldn't worry about a few tteete— wouldn't worry about a few tteete cn— wouldn't worry about a few tteete cn en— wouldn't worry about a few bleeps on an emergency warning. i bleeps on an emergency warning. t neen— bleeps on an emergency warning. t wnet— bleeps on an emergency warning. t wnet te— bleeps on an emergency warning. i mean, what is the— bleeps on an emergency warning. i mean, what is the difference tetween— i mean, what is the difference between that _ i mean, what is the difference between that and— i mean, what is the difference between that and a siren going off between that and a siren going ctt tnet— between that and a siren going ctt tnet new— between that and a siren going off that may not—

between that and a siren going off that may not be heard everywhere? _ off that may not be heard everywhere? �*itvt�* i1: off that may not be heard everywhere? off that may not be heard- everywhere? where do you think members of the public, my viewers listeners an viewers and listeners an are a little triggered by because little triggered by this because of overreach during the of the overreach during the pandemic? bitten, shy pandemic? once bitten, twice shy ? no, pandemic? once bitten, twice shy ? n0,i pandemic? once bitten, twice shy ? no, i think the reason that tnew-re— ? no, i think the reason that they're triggered— 7’ no, i think the reason that they're triggered by it is teceuee— they're triggered by it is because they've been psyched up by a— because they've been psyched up by e tct— because they've been psyched up by e tct ct— because they've been psyched up by a lot of completely over—the—top commentary in press and over—the—top commentary in press ent nette. — over—the—top commentary in press ent nette. ant— over—the—top commentary in press and media. and now— over—the—top commentary in press and media. and now , to me, this and media. and now, to me, this was a non—event as— and media. and now, to me, this was a non—event as i say, you cncw.— was a non—event as i say, you tncw. t— was a non—event as i say, you tncw. t net— was a non—event as i say, you tncw. t net e— was a non—event as i say, you know, i had a few— was a non—event as i say, you know, i had a few bleeps and tnet— know, i had a few bleeps and tnet wee— know, i had a few bleeps and tnet rt.— know, i had a few bleeps and that was it. i— know, i had a few bleeps and that was it. i didn't even have to that was it. i didn't even have tc evtte— that was it. i didn't even have tc ewtte tt— that was it. i didn't even have to swipe it off.— that was it. i didn't even have to swipe it off. i— that was it. i didn't even have to swipe it off. i didn't even neve— to swipe it off. i didn't even neve tc— to swipe it off. i didn't even neve tc tc— to swipe it off. i didn't even have to do that.— to swipe it off. i didn't even have to do that. just went away. vcu— have to do that. just went away. vcu-wnw— have to do that. just went away. you-why should- have to do that. just went away. you-why should i- have to do that. just went away. you why should i get you know, why should i get utttgnt— you know, why should i get uptight-that?- you know, why should i get uptight that? poor cal uptight about that? poor cal trctucer— uptight about that? poor cal trctucer cet— uptight about that? poor cal producer cal got to lick his producer cal has got to lick his wcunet— producer cal has got to lick his wcunte-ne-e— wounds now. he's had a handbagging from the legendary ann widdecombe, and it's a thrill have on the show thrill to have you on the show on a sunday, as always. can't wait to see you in a week's time. it's the countdown to the coronation. can't to hear coronation. i can't wait to hear what your thoughts will be about the the biggest con the coronation. the biggest con stitutional moment in this country seven decades, country for seven decades, certainly in royal terms. and we'll you in a week. thank we'll catch you in a week. thank you so much forjoining us. and widdecombe former widdecombe there, former government minister, best selling tv selling author and tv personality and someone that's

just duffed producer and just duffed up. my producer and rightly next up , we've got rightly so. next up, we've got the papers with full punditry action. don't go anywhere .

and whatever time of day you. and whatever time of day you— you. and whatever time of day wcu cen— you. and whatever time of day wcu wetcn— you. and whatever time of day you can watch or— and whatever time of day you can watch or listen, britons wetcttng— you can watch or listen, britons watching, britons— you can watch or listen, britons watching, britons watching , watching, britons watching, . ctew. — watching, britons watching, we're . okay. �*ifvtt:4 c we're. okay. well, it's that time of the evening. it's time for tomorrow's papers .

for tomorrow's papers. yes, indeed. and we'll start with the daily telegraph . and with the daily telegraph. and here's what they are leading with. let's take a look at their front page. uk citizens abandoned amid feeble response to sudan crisis sunak gives way to sudan crisis sunak gives way to rebels over migrant spill phone alert test ends in farce and abbott stripped of whip in labour racism row the independent next diane abbott stripped of labour whip in fresh anti semitism story for the party and also an exclusive in—depth investigation. mps cut funding of apprenticeships for city high flyers . the mirror city high flyers. the mirror next ex—tory tory voter steps up fight. rod givens faces a pay rise now that sir rod stewart , rise now that sir rod stewart, who has renewed his call for nurses to get a fair pay rise in

a fresh attack on the tories, the former conservative kyiv was joined by ex commons speaker john bercow, who told pm rishi sunak to cough up and reward dedicated key staff. sir. sir sir rod said of nurses about to strike erg i'm well on their side . they come before anything side. they come before anything wrong? okay. daily mail now and this is a daily mail campaign. time to scrap the tourist tax and get britain booming again. a coalition of business leaders today calls for the return of tax free shopping for overseas tourists. in a letter to the chancellor, scores of retail hospital motty and tourism bosses warned that removing the vat refund for visitors has been an extraordinary own goal. also, bad news, ladies. the £10 billion bachelor who's now off the markets. the duke of westminster, who was a sprightly 32, announced his engagement to girlfriend olivia henson yesterday. i can't imagine what

she sees in him . and last but she sees in him. and last but not least, the daily star for hot spells . coronation heat, 26 hot spells. coronation heat, 26 degree record temperatures swelter , to be real, belter says swelter, to be real, belter says will do nicely, say the star. get your knotted hanky out, chaz . the king's coronation will spark a burst of hot spells. brits will enjoy four heat waves and 26 degree roasts. in may . and 26 degree roasts. in may. phew, what a corker is. what they say in the daily star . they say in the daily star. well, reacting to the papers, i'm delighted to have my top punst i'm delighted to have my top pundits tonight . we have polly pundits tonight. we have polly toynbee, who is a guardian columnist and best selling author. writer and political commentator. author. writer and political commentator . jo—anne nadler and commentator. jo—anne nadler and broadcast gb news star and financial analyst. albie amankona. lots of stories to get through. we will talk about the weather in a minute because we're british and we could do with something to smile about. but story is everywhere . but this story is everywhere. albie abbott stripped of whip in labour racism row. your response

to what she had to say effectively diminishing or undermining the notion that jewish people will possibly travel as the gypsy community? irish people are not subject to the same kind of racism. it seems to have backfired badly. i think it's more than backfired tettw— i think it's more than backfired tettw. tt— i think it's more than backfired tettw. tt nee— i think it's more than backfired badly. it has completely tarnished— badly. it has completely tarnished diane abbott. totally i tarnished diane abbott. totally t neen— tarnished diane abbott. totally t ene— tarnished diane abbott. totally i mean, she she— tarnished diane abbott. totally i mean, she she has sort of tutt— i mean, she she has sort of tuttt ut— i mean, she she has sort of tuttt ut ner— i mean, she she has sort of built up her career in parliament- built up her career in parliament being an anti racist ecttvtet— parliament being an anti racist ecttvtet. t— parliament being an anti racist activist. i think— parliament being an anti racist activist. i think she was the wet— activist. i think she was the first female— activist. i think she was the first female black mp when she etectet— first female black mp when she was elected back— first female black mp when she was elected back in the in the 80 was elected back in the in the co eeccnet. — was elected back in the in the 80 seconds. you— was elected back in the in the 80 seconds. you know, she's ene-e— 80 seconds. you know, she's ene-e etcne— 80 seconds. you know, she's ene-e tcne e— 80 seconds. you know, she's she's done a lot— 80 seconds. you know, she's she's done a lot of good and trailblazer. _ she's done a lot of good and trailblazer. yes.— she's done a lot of good and trailblazer. yes. i— she's done a lot of good and trailblazer. yes. i mean, i ccnttetetw— trailblazer. yes. i mean, i completely disagree with most of the completely disagree with most of tne tntnge— completely disagree with most of tne tntnge ene— completely disagree with most of the things she says as including ttte.— the things she says as including this-ultimately,— the things she says as including this. ultimately, the idea this. but ultimately, the idea tnet— this. but ultimately, the idea tnet tnet— this. but ultimately, the idea that that-people- this. but ultimately, the idea that that people don't that that jewish people don't eutter— that that jewish people don't eutter trcn — that that jewish people don't suffer from racism and discrimination is a nonsense. tne— discrimination is a nonsense. tne teee— discrimination is a nonsense. the idea that— discrimination is a nonsense. the idea that travellers and tnen— the idea that travellers and wet tectte— the idea that travellers and irish people don't suffer from tcn-t— irish people don't suffer from tcn-t eutter— irish people don't suffer from don't suffer from _ irish people don't suffer from don't suffer from discrimination as don't suffer from discrimination ee wett— don't suffer from discrimination ee wett te— don't suffer from discrimination ee wett te e— don't suffer from discrimination as well is a nonsense. i mean , as well is a nonsense. i mean, tne— as well is a nonsense. i mean, tne etgne— as well is a nonsense. i mean, tne etgne tect— as well is a nonsense. i mean, the signs back in— as well is a nonsense. i mean, the signs back in the 60 seconds tnet— the signs back in the 60 seconds tnet nw— the signs back in the 60 seconds that my grandfather was seeing wnen— that my grandfather was seeing wnen ne— that my grandfather was seeing when he moved— that my grandfather was seeing when he moved here, it was eewtng— when he moved here, it was eewtng nc— when he moved here, it was saying no blacks, no dogs, no

net — saying no blacks, no dogs, no net t— saying no blacks, no dogs, no irish. i mean,— saying no blacks, no dogs, no irish. i mean, if— saying no blacks, no dogs, no irish. i mean, if that's not racism, what— irish. i mean, if that's not racism, what is?- irish. i mean, if that's not racism, what is? so i'm very tteettctntet— racism, what is? so i'm very disappointed .the- racism, what is? so i'm very disappointed the comments disappointed in the comments tnet— disappointed in the comments tnet-nete. - disappointed in the comments that-made. but- disappointed in the comments that made. but but she that diane has made. but but she has that diane has made. but but she nee etctcgteet— that diane has made. but but she has apologised she's has apologised for it. she's etntttet— has apologised for it. she's admitted-she- has apologised for it. she's admitted she said she was admitted fault. she said she was wcng.— admitted fault. she said she was wrong. disassociated admitted fault. she said she was wrontthe disassociated admitted fault. she said she was wrontthe commentsiated admitted fault. she said she was wrontthe comments .ited admitted fault. she said she was wrontthe comments . and i think from the comments. and i think it's from the comments. and i think tt-e tntcrtent— from the comments. and i think it's important that— from the comments. and i think it's important that we understand- it's important that we understand when people apologise is understand when people apologise te wnere— understand when people apologise te wnere ttere— understand when people apologise is where there is— understand when people apologise is where there is contrition. tnere — is where there is contrition. there should— is where there is contrition. there should be- is where there is contrition. there should be redemption. '11t: there should be redemption. and wtuueccnte— there should be redemption. and widdecombe hardly— there should be redemption. and widdecombe hardly an— there should be redemption. and widdecombe hardly an ideological soul mate of yours , polly, has soul mate of yours, polly, has said that if she were to be expelled from the labour party, that would be window dressing or virtue signalling, as she called it, meaningless. your it, and meaningless. what's your view? think it's very view? i think it's very difficult indeed, because diane abbott really was a trail blazer. she and she has suffered tcr. t— blazer. she and she has suffered more for, i think,— she and she has suffered more for, i think, more hatred ent— more for, i think, more hatred ent etuee— more for, i think, more hatred and abuse than— more for, i think, more hatred and abuse than probably anybody in and abuse than probably anybody tn tne— and abuse than probably anybody in the commons— and abuse than probably anybody in the commons ever in her life. i in the commons ever in her life. t neen— in the commons ever in her life. t .— in the commons ever in her life. t .tuet— in the commons ever in her life. i mean , just unbelievable sexism i mean, just unbelievable sexism and i mean, just unbelievable sexism ent rectern— i mean, just unbelievable sexism ent .— i mean, just unbelievable sexism and racism , sexism— i mean, just unbelievable sexism and racism , sexism and racism and racism, sexism and racism ccnttnet— and racism, sexism and racism ccnttnet .— and racism, sexism and racism ccnttnet . ant— and racism, sexism and racism combined . and also the fact that combined. and also the fact that ene-e— combined. and also the fact that ene-e cn— combined. and also the fact that ene-e cn tne— combined. and also the fact that she's on the left— combined. and also the fact that she's on the left and on the vtcte— she's on the left and on the wncte. tne— she's on the left and on the whole, the right— she's on the left and on the whole, the right can be very vttrtcttc— whole, the right can be very vitriolic to _ whole, the right can be very vitriolic to people on the left. tut— vitriolic to people on the left. tut t— vitriolic to people on the left. tut t ttne— vitriolic to people on the left. tut t ttnt tt— vitriolic to people on the left. but i find it utterly extraordinary. she could have wrttten— extraordinary. she could have wrttten ttte— extraordinary. she could have written this letter for i mean, tctettw— written this letter for i mean, totally astounding because the

wncte— totally astounding because the wncte tctnt— totally astounding because the whole point of— totally astounding because the whole point of the letter was to say— whole point of the letter was to eew tewe. — whole point of the letter was to eew tewe. jewe— whole point of the letter was to say jews, jews and— whole point of the letter was to say jews, jews and the irish and tween— say jews, jews and the irish and travellers don't— say jews, jews and the irish and travellers don't suffer racism . travellers don't suffer racism. ttere— travellers don't suffer racism. tnere wee— travellers don't suffer racism. tnere nc— travellers don't suffer racism. there was no other point to it. ttere— there was no other point to it. tnere cent— there was no other point to it. there can't have— there was no other point to it. there can't have been another etett— there can't have been another draft because _ there can't have been another draft because that was what the tetter— draft because that was what the tetter wee— draft because that was what the letter was about.— draft because that was what the letter was about. she chose to wntte— letter was about. she chose to wrtte-nct— letter was about. she chose to write - not. being. write what's not like being interviewed— write what's not like being interviewed television interviewed on television and eewtng—ntetetei interviewed on television andi saying—mistake . interviewed on television and- saying_mistake . she saying something by mistake. she wrcte— saying something by mistake. she wrcte-tetter— saying something by mistake. she wrote-letter and— saying something by mistake. she wrote letter and since keir wrote this letter and since keir sterner— wrote this letter and since keir sterner wee— wrote this letter and since keir starmer was first— wrote this letter and since keir starmer was first in tent on tettng— starmer was first in tent on tettng cve— starmer was first in tent on taking over the— starmer was first in tent on taking over the leadership was to taking over the leadership was tc tw— taking over the leadership was tc tw tc— taking over the leadership was tc trw tc evtunge— taking over the leadership was to try to expunge all remnants of anti—semitism— to try to expunge all remnants of anti—semitism from labour etter— of anti—semitism from labour etter e— of anti—semitism from labour after a disastrous— of anti—semitism from labour after a disastrous era. i think tte— after a disastrous era. i think tt-e .— after a disastrous era. i think tt-e . wcu— after a disastrous era. i think we . wcu cncw.— after a disastrous era. i think it's , you know, it's quite right it's, you know, it's quite right to it's, you know, it's quite right tc neve— it's, you know, it's quite right to have suspended her. what else can to have suspended her. what else wcu— to have suspended her. what else wcu tc— to have suspended her. what else wcu etc a — to have suspended her. what else wcu etc a t— to have suspended her. what else can you do ? i mean,- to have suspended her. what else can you do ? can you do? i mean, do you think there will be implications for labour at the next election or do you think that starmer has done enough to be seen to rid labour of the ghost of anti—semitism , or does this anti—semitism, or does this bnng anti—semitism, or does this bring it all back? no i think it reminds us that certain parts of a older generation of a certain older generation of extreme leftists in the labour party just can't let go of the idea that what their feelings are about palestine and about israel. some how becomes a

tnet— israel. some how becomes a racism that covers— some how becomes a racism that covers over anybody tctt — racism that covers over anybody tctt wnc — racism that covers over anybody tctt wnc te— racism that covers over anybody dodi who is jewish.— racism that covers over anybody dodi who is jewish. and it's tnew— dodi who is jewish. and it's tnew tuet— dodi who is jewish. and it's they just can't— dodi who is jewish. and it's they just can't see where the ttvtttng— they just can't see where the dividing lines— they just can't see where the dividing lines should be. so do you— dividing lines should be. so do wcu tntnt— dividing lines should be. so do wcu tntnt tne— dividing lines should be. so do you think the hard left, do you tntnt— you think the hard left, do you tntnt tne— you think the hard left, do you think the hard— you think the hard left, do you think the hard left are institutionally as it were, ideologically— institutionally as it were, ideologically anti—semitic or. i tntnt— ideologically anti—semitic or. i tntnt tn— ideologically anti—semitic or. i think in some— ideologically anti—semitic or. i think in some ways they are , but think in some ways they are, but tnew— think in some ways they are, but tnew tnew— think in some ways they are, but tnew tnew tcn-t— think in some ways they are, but they they don't feel they are tnew— they they don't feel they are tnew tcn-t— they they don't feel they are they don't know— they they don't feel they are they don't know they are. that's wnet-e— they don't know they are. that's wnet-e ec— they don't know they are. that's what's so bizarre— they don't know they are. that's what's so bizarre about it. they tntnt— what's so bizarre about it. they tntnt tnet— what's so bizarre about it. they think that starmer_ what's so bizarre about it. they think that starmer has just used anti—semitism _ think that starmer has just used anti—semitism as— think that starmer has just used anti—semitism as a weapon to get rid anti—semitism as a weapon to get rtt ct— anti—semitism as a weapon to get rtt ct tne— anti—semitism as a weapon to get rtt ct tne tett.— anti—semitism as a weapon to get rid of the left. that— anti—semitism as a weapon to get rid of the left. that is so not true.— rid of the left. that is so not true. tt— rid of the left. that is so not true. tt wee— rid of the left. that is so not true. it was so— rid of the left. that is so not true. it was so essential that tne— true. it was so essential that the anti—semitism was dealt with and the anti—semitism was dealt with ent ectuettw— the anti—semitism was dealt with and actually the _ the anti—semitism was dealt with and actually the jewish ccnnunttw— and actually the jewish community as represented by most of community as represented by most ct tte— community as represented by most of its officials,— community as represented by most of its officials, have— community as represented by most of its officials, have accepted tnet— of its officials, have accepted tnet tetcur— of its officials, have accepted that labour is— of its officials, have accepted that labour is he's done his job wett— that labour is he's done his job wett ent— that labour is he's done his job well and that— that labour is he's done his job well and that labour is now not an anti—semitic— well and that labour is now not an anti—semitic organisation . an anti—semitic organisation. ant— an anti—semitic organisation. ant t— an anti—semitic organisation. ant t tcn-t— an anti—semitic organisation. and i don't know— an anti—semitic organisation. and i don't know what you do etcut— and i don't know what you do etcut otene— and i don't know what you do about diana because i think ene-e— about diana because i think she's ineducable well, i think it's she's ineducable well, i think tt-e tewcnt— she's ineducable well, i think it's beyond the— she's ineducable well, i think it's beyond the point at which you— it's beyond the point at which wcu ccutt— it's beyond the point at which wcu ccutt eew— it's beyond the point at which you could say if— it's beyond the point at which you could say if she went away ent— you could say if she went away ent-e— you could say if she went away and-a course, it- and went on a course, it exttetnet— and went on a course, it explained-her- and went on a course, it explained her about how to explained to her about how to tntnt— explained to her about how to think-difference- think about the difference tetween— think about the difference- between—question between the palestinian question and between the palestinian question ent fewe— between the palestinian question ent tewe tn— between the palestinian question and jews in general. i don't

tntnt— and jews in general. i don't tntnt tt— and jews in general. i don't think it would— and jews in general. i don't think it would take this is a party— think it would take this is a tertw tnet— think it would take this is a party that wants to be in government,— party that wants to be in government, that could be in gcvernnent— government, that could be in government next— government, that could be in government next year. 11 government next year. joanne, wnet— government next year. joanne, wtet te— government next year. joanne, wtet te tetr— government next year. joanne, what is keir starmer's next move ? well, what is keir starmer's next move ? well , i what is keir starmer's next move ? well, i think that if i were a nernte— ? well, i think that if i were a nernte ct— ? well, i think that if i were a member of the— 7’ well, i think that if i were a member of the labour party, i wcuttn-t— member of the labour party, i wouldn't want— member of the labour party, i wouldn't want diane abbott to be retreeenttng— wouldn't want diane abbott to be retreeenttng nw— wouldn't want diane abbott to be representing my party. t:t:t representing my party. but i do tttnt— representing my party. but i do tttnt tnet— representing my party. but i do think that that's an internal matter for the labour party . matter for the labour party. arnie i'm not particularly swayed by her apology simply because in a sense i think it's i think it's an irrelevance . i think it's an irrelevance. acas i think this is more fundamental . i think diane fundamental. i think diane abbott is wedded to a particular ideological interpretation of racism and that ideological interpretation sees everything through a prism of black and white. and therefore i find it inherently anti—semitic . i mean, inherently anti—semitic. i mean, the very fact that she could or other people who espouse this worldview and i think it's not just sort of , worldview and i think it's not just sort of, as polly puts it,

sort of older , traditional sort of older, traditional members of the hard left who are preoccupied with the with with the politics of israel. i think this is a new imported sort of identity , city driven vision of identity, city driven vision of racism. the woke left, the progressive left, critical race theory, critical race, and also so—called anti—racism, because i mean , if you hear the expression mean, if you hear the expression anti—racism, that sounds like a project. iwant anti—racism, that sounds like a project. i want to be part of. tut— project. i want to be part of. but anti—racism _ project. i want to be part of. but anti—racism is- project. i want to be part of. but anti—racism is a- i i want to be part of. but anti—racism is a very certetn— but anti—racism is a very certain kind— but anti—racism is a very certain kind of- but anti—racism is a very certain kind of ideology in tteett— certain kind of ideology in itself, isn't— certain kind of ideology in itself, isn't it? - certain kind of ideology in itself, isn't it.7 tcng“ certain kind of ideology in itself, isn't it? �*itvt�*t:4 c itself, isn't it? well, it's based on this idea that that we live in a sort of hierarchy of oppression. and if you're within that hierarchy of oppression and you happen to be white, then you're close to the top of you're very close to the top of the oppressors, makes it the oppressors, which makes it quite difficult explain quite difficult to explain anti—semitism, obviously anti—semitism, because obviously many people considerjewish many people consider jewish people to be predominantly what critical race theorists would call white. but that just shows how reductive this whole ideology is and how dangerous it is and how insidious it is. i think most people are anti rectet— think most people are anti rectet ent— think most people are anti

racist and doing anti racist movements. absolutely mostly entt— movements. absolutely mostly entt rectern— movements. absolutely mostly anti racism against jews as much as anti racism against jews as much ee tnew— anti racism against jews as much ee tnew ee— anti racism against jews as much ee tnew rectet— anti racism against jews as much as they are racist against all tnew— as they are racist against all tnew tncugn. — as they are racist against all tnew tncugn. t— as they are racist against all they though. i think it's a are tnew— they though. i think it's a are tnew ee— they though. i think it's a are tnew tetng— they though. i think it's a are they are being left wing because i they are being left wing because ttuet— they are being left wing because truet wcnte— they are being left wing because i just wonder whether this term entt— i just wonder whether this term entt — i just wonder whether this term anti racism is— i just wonder whether this term anti racism is a— i just wonder whether this term anti racism is a little bit of a enete— anti racism is a little bit of a enete ctt— anti racism is a little bit of a snake oil term. _ anti racism is a little bit of a snake oil term. \rt1::t anti racism is a little bit of a snake oil term. \t1::tt:t1::t11c anti racism is a little bit of a snake oil term. \t1::t t:t1:t11c snake oil term. no i don't think it is. i think polly is totally right on this. i founded conservatives against racism for equality. and we call ourselves the uk's first centre right organisation , anti racist organisation, anti racist organisation. i've got no problem at all with the term anti—racist. we've got to completely disavow how critical race theory that is the problem. but isn't that how isn't that ncw— but isn't that how isn't that ncw twc— but isn't that how isn't that how two things— but isn't that how isn't that how two things isn't anti racism tet— how two things isn't anti racism ttet tn— how two things isn't anti racism ttet tn wttt— how two things isn't anti racism tied in with critical— how two things isn't anti racism tied in with critical race tnecrw— tied in with critical race tnecrw . — tied in with critical race tnecrw . tte- tied in with critical race theory . it's not- tied in with critical race theory . c tied in with critical race- theory . it's not anti racism is theory. it's not anti racism is being against racism we have being against racism and we have got completely disentangle got to completely disentangle this scourge of critical this this scourge of critical race theory. but then you would say from fighting for racial equality inherently racist. i completely disagree i completely disagree with crtttcet— completely disagree with critical race _ completely disagree with critical race theory. i think gct— critical race theory. i think gct tc— critical race theory. i think we've got to disentangle it, because what very critical for those for those who define and for those that don't, i'm not

i'm i'm trying to get it back to its original meaning because for those who a lot of those who there's a lot of expressions right. so for those ttetentng— expressions right. so for those ttetentng cr— expressions right. so for those listening or watching - i g1 so for those listening or watching who don't cncw— listening or watching who don't know-critical— listening or watching who don't know - critical race - listening or watching who don't know critical race theory know what critical race theory is, know what critical race theory te—ne- know what critical race theoryi te—ne wttn is, albie you can help me with it. is, albie you can help me with t. .tncwtetge— is, albie you can help me with it.-knowledge is- is, albie you can help me with it. knowledge is greater it. your knowledge is greater tnen— it. your knowledge is greater tnen-tut— it. your knowledge is greater than-but it's- it. your knowledge is greater than-but it's the- than mine, but it's the trtncttte— than mine, but it's the trtncttte te— than mine, but it's the principle is really that based utcn— principle is really that based ucncccut-tr- principle is really that based upon-colour, you. principle is really that based upon colour, you may upon your skin colour, you may neve— upon your skin colour, you may neve certetn— upon your skin colour, you may have certain prejudice, certain rectet—ttete- racist instincts, and that's tnet-e— racist instincts, and that's- that's _critical that's the problem with critical tece—verw- that's the problem with critical race—very binary. race theory. it's very binary ent—cn- race theory. it's very binary ent—cn ettnl and very focussed on skin cctcur. — and very focussed on skin cccutr. iverw- and very focussed on skin colour. tt1:ig colour. it's very binary, it's very focussed, focussed on skin colour. it kind of hinges from this white people this idea that all white people are that all the are racists and that all the structures within the western world kind of built to, to world are kind of built to, to basically exploit the global south and brown black people south and brown and black people essentially . albie and it's essentially. albie and it's something which completely something which i completely disagree people can disagree with. jewish people can experience racism. travellers have some of the poorest life outcomes in the entire country. actually worse than the black canbbean actually worse than the black caribbean community. so i think the idea that it's only people of colour who suffer from racism and racial disparities is totally wrong and anti racist need to be more clear about what they're talking about. not

critical race theory. most certainly the _ critical race theory. most certainly the daily- ii i? i ”gt most certainly the daily mirror. tcenne— certainly the daily mirror. tcenne tct— certainly the daily mirror. joanne rod stewart give nurses a pay joanne rod stewart give nurses a tew nee— joanne rod stewart give nurses a tew ncw— joanne rod stewart give nurses a tew .— joanne rod stewart give nurses a tew . t— joanne rod stewart give nurses a pay rise now . i mean, there's pay rise now. i mean, there's nct— pay rise now. i mean, there's nct tcc— pay rise now. i mean, there's nct tcc nenw— pay rise now. i mean, there's not too many people that would go not too many people that would gc cn— not too many people that would gc cn eccrt— not too many people that would go on record saying that the nurses shouldn't— go on record saying that the nurses shouldn't get a bump, but it's nurses shouldn't get a bump, but tt-e gutte— nurses shouldn't get a bump, but we gutte eeew. — nurses shouldn't get a bump, but it's quite easy. he's— nurses shouldn't get a bump, but it's quite easy. t1: it's quite easy. he's not associating himself with the controversial no , that's the controversial no, that's the thing. but is this i mean, look, tetr— thing. but is this i mean, look, tetr ttew— thing. but is this i mean, look, tetr ttew tc— thing. but is this i mean, look, fair play to him.— thing. but is this i mean, look, fair play to him. but,- 11g but is this i mean, look, fair play to him. but, you know, i fair play to him. but, you know, t-wcnter.— fair play to him. but, you know, t-wcnter. tne— fair play to him. but, you know, i-wonder, the first- fair play to him. but, you know, i wonder, the first time i just wonder, the first time nee—e- i just wonder, the first time nee—e verw- i just wonder, the first timei nee—e verw eeew he's said this is a very easy tntng— he's said this is a very easy tntng tcr— he's said this is a very easy tntng tcr e— he's said this is a very easy thing for a celebrity do, thing for a celebrity to do, ten-t— thing for a celebrity to do, ten-t ttc — thing for a celebrity to do, isn't it? yeah.— thing for a celebrity to do, isn't it? yeah. i- thing for a celebrity to do, isn't it? t1/t1:.? 11 11 isn't it? yeah. i mean, i think to be fair to rod stewart, he's been a long time champion of this cause. he's this particular cause. he's spoken of nurses spoken in favour of nurses receiving rises past receiving pay rises in the past and so i'm not going to be so cynical as suggest that he's cynical as to suggest that he's doing sort boost his doing this to sort of boost his own credibility or boost his own image. and he doesn't really need he? he's a of need to, does he? he's a bit of a legend, correct. so i think it's, know , it just chimes it's, you know, it just chimes with the sort of the mindset of the mirror and sort of, you know, he's a he appeals to their demographics. so it's not really famous tory voter he was you

know, he was he was one the tories always put forward you know we've got rod stewart so the fact that he's supporting the fact that he's supporting the nurses and indeed all of the health service workers who are all on the same pay system , i all on the same pay system, i think it's quite important because it, you know, it really is a popular cause. i think people is a popular cause. i think tectte ee— is a popular cause. i think people are quite- i i think people are quite indignant about how people are quite indignant about ncw wus— people are quite indignant about how nhs staff,— people are quite indignant about how nhs staff, ambulance staff neve— how nhs staff, ambulance staff neve teen— how nhs staff, ambulance staff have been treated. and the idea tnet— have been treated. and the idea tnet tnet— have been treated. and the idea tnet tnetr pay— have been treated. and the idea that their pay should fall even runner— that their pay should fall even turtner tect— that their pay should fall even further back than— that their pay should fall even further back than it has in the teet— further back than it has in the pet tnet— further back than it has in the peer. tnet te— further back than it has in the past, that is just— further back than it has in the past, that is just not acceptable- past, that is just not acceptable .- past, that is just not acceptable . it's also not acceptable. it's also not eenettte— acceptable. it's also not sensible because , you know, we sensible because, you know, we ncet— sensible because, you know, we neet tc— sensible because, you know, we neet tc recrutt— sensible because, you know, we need to recruit more nurses. ncet— need to recruit more nurses. ttcet ct— need to recruit more nurses. ttcet ct ett— need to recruit more nurses. most of all, we— need to recruit more nurses. most of all, we need to hold on to most of all, we need to hold on tc tnen— most of all, we need to hold on tc tnen. we— most of all, we need to hold on to them. we are— most of all, we need to hold on to them. we are losing middle tevet— to them. we are losing middle tevet. ntgner— to them. we are losing middle level, higher level nurses in nuge— level, higher level nurses in nuge tenent— level, higher level nurses in huge demand elsewhere and we're tcetng— huge demand elsewhere and we're tcetng tnen— huge demand elsewhere and we're tcetng tnen ee— huge demand elsewhere and we're losing them as we— huge demand elsewhere and we're losing them as we never had more this losing them as we never had more the weer— losing them as we never had more the weer tnen— losing them as we never had more this year than ever— losing them as we never had more this year than ever before. ncre— this year than ever before. tacre. ant— this year than ever before. more. and we— this year than ever before. more. and we can't afford to do tnet. — more. and we can't afford to do that. however,— more. and we can't afford to do that. however, and- more. and we can't afford to do that. however, and i- more. and we can't afford to do that. ?1t: that. however, and i support the nurses myself. i've said it on this programme that that it's clear that they've fallen behind real terms , pay cut, and we're real terms, pay cut, and we're grateful for what they've done dunng grateful for what they've done during the pandemic. they've been through hell, but asking

for and going on strike that for 19% and going on strike that crosses a line for a lot of people. yes, but they've said. ttgnt. — people. yes, but they've said. rtgnt-eetet— people. yes, but they've said. right. -asked for- people. yes, but they've said. right. -asked for 19%- yes, but they've said. right. asked for 19% once right. they asked for19% once ent— right. they asked for19% once ent tne— right. they asked for 19% once and the moment— right. they asked for 19% once and the moment they went on etnce— and the moment they went on etrtte. tnew— and the moment they went on strike, they said— and the moment they went on strike, they said straight away, you— strike, they said straight away, wcu—went- strike, they said straight away, wcu—went tc- strike, they said straight away, wcu—went tc etti you know, we just want to sit tcwn— you know, we just want to sit tcwn ent — you know, we just want to sit down and negotiate. and indeed, the down and negotiate. and indeed, tne—tne— down and negotiate. and indeed, the—the strikes- the rcn did. but the strikes wett— the rcn did. but the strikes wett .— the rcn did. but the strikes wett . tne— the rcn did. but the strikes well , the nurses themselves felt well, the nurses themselves felt tnet— well, the nurses themselves felt tnet tne — well, the nurses themselves felt tnet tne teet— well, the nurses themselves felt that the deal that— well, the nurses themselves felt that the deal that the rcn etruct— that the deal that the rcn etruct wee— that the deal that the rcn struck was not— that the deal that the rcn struck was not enough . you know, struck was not enough. you know, it struck was not enough. you know, tt wee— struck was not enough. you know, tt tne— struck was not enough. you know, tt tne tt— struck was not enough. you know, it was the it was— struck was not enough. you know, it was the it was the— struck was not enough. you know, it was the it was the nurses rent— it was the it was the nurses rent ent— it was the it was the nurses rank and file— it was the it was the nurses rank and file who voted against wnet— rank and file who voted against wnet tne— rank and file who voted against what the leadership had had egreet— what the leadership had had egreet. sc— what the leadership had had agreed. so the— what the leadership had had agreed. so the idea that these are agreed. so the idea that these wtctet— agreed. so the idea that these are wicked militant leaders who are wicked militant leaders who teettng— are wicked militant leaders who are leading their— are wicked militant leaders who are leading their members eetrew— are leading their members eetrew. tt— are leading their members astray, it turns— are leading their members astray, it turns out their rnerneret— astray, it turns out their members are,- astray, it turns out their members are, you know, more teterntnet— members are, you know, more determined than— members are, you know, more determined than they are. tcenne. — determined than they are. tcenne. t— determined than they are. joanne. i think— determined than they are. joanne. i think they have been tettw— joanne. i think they have been tettw tet. — joanne. i think they have been tettw tet. t— joanne. i think they have been badly led. i think— joanne. i think they have been badly led. i think i- joanne. i think they have been badly led. i badly led. i think i think their union representation hasn't hasn't done them a great service. and i think that should have held out for more. you mean in the negotiation? _ have held out for more. you mean in the negotiation? no.- have held out for more. you mean in the negotiation? no. no,- have held out for more. you mean in the negotiation? no. no, they shouldn't have gone with such shouldn't have gone in with such a high demand in the first place. it just wasn't realistic. and seems to be the case and that seems to be the case across the other of across the other members of the workers service workers in the health service that coming out at the that are coming out at the moment. but, of course, in rod

stewart's case, well stewart's case, he can well afford the tax hikes that might be continue be necessary to continue funding. well, this is it, an inexorable and maybe should inexorable and maybe we should be gary lineker because be fair on gary lineker because he's dogs abused for he's had dogs abused for stepping into politics and having various things, having views on various things, including . including our borders policy. you know, these celebrities, i tnew— you know, these celebrities, i mean, they could— you know, these celebrities, i mean, they could just go around. they— mean, they could just go around. tnew ccutt— mean, they could just go around. tnew ccutt tnew— mean, they could just go around. they could they could hold paid for they could they could hold paid tcr by— they could they could hold paid tcr by tne— they could they could hold paid for by the bbc. _ they could they could hold paid for by the bbc. that was the issue with gary at that point. but but rod stewart and the ttte.— but but rod stewart and the ttte. t— but but rod stewart and the ttte. t neen— but but rod stewart and the like. i mean, he— but but rod stewart and the like. i mean, he could just go ercunt— like. i mean, he could just go around-let's- like. i mean, he could just go around-let's give- around saying, let's give evecnerw— around saying, let's givei everyone _ let's around saying, let's give- everyone_let's be everyone money and let's be reettw— everyone money and let's be reettw-ent— everyone money and let's be really-and he- everyone money and let's be really and he would win really nice and he would win tteuttte— really nice and he would win tteuttte tcr— really nice and he would win plaudits for that. is it helpful for plaudits for that. is it helpful tct—tcl for stars like rod stewart to enter— for stars like rod stewart to enter politics?— for stars like rod stewart to enter politics? do we enter politics? albie do we reettw— enter politics? albie do we really-that?- enter politics? albie do we really-that? no- enter politics? albie do we really that? no i don't really want that? no i don't tntnt— really want that? no i don't tntnt tte— really want that? no i don't think it's particularly helpful. ant— think it's particularly helpful. ant-theret— think it's particularly helpful. and-there's actually- think it's particularly helpful. i and _there's actually two and i think there's actually two headunes and i think there's actually two headlines the papers headlines in the in the papers today, actually illustrate today, which actually illustrate a problem. there's one prominent tory, a former tory tory, i think a former tory party saying he wants the party donor, saying he wants the government to cut vat for tourists. so essentially cut a tax. and we've got another prominent tory in the papers saying he wants the government to spend more money. well, which one is correct? right. and i think is the problem think this is the problem that we're and of these we're facing. and both of these

gentlemen, distinguished gentlemen, very distinguished individuals, two individuals, is saying two opposing they want individuals, is saying two oppconservative they want individuals, is saying two oppconservative party:hey want individuals, is saying two oppconservative party toy want individuals, is saying two oppconservative party to do.int the conservative party to do. both not possible. it's both are not possible. so it's a it's a big task for the government. and don't think government. and i don't think these interventions helpful these interventions are helpful . well, you go. look, . well, there you go. look, we've - so much - . well, there you go. look, we've - so much to - well, there you go. look, we've so much to get through we've got so much to get through etter—t— we've got so much to get through etter—t neve— we've got so much to get through after-i have-the. after the break. i have got the erect tne— after the break. i have got the express, the metro and the i etec— express, the metro and the i etec ttnt— express, the metro and the i also find out— express, the metro and the i also find out why polly tcwntee-e— also find out why polly toynbee's back page baddie is tcntntc— toynbee's back page baddie is dominic raab— toynbee's back page baddie is dominic raab and why i have a tcct— dominic raab and why i have a tcct et— dominic raab and why i have a tcct et tnte. — dominic raab and why i have a look at this. joanne nadler's neetttne— look at this. joanne nadler's headline hero— look at this. joanne nadler's headline hero is— look at this. joanne nadler's headline hero is wait for it. tcntntc— headline hero is wait for it. dominic raab.— headline hero is wait for it. dominic raab. so we're going to neve— dominic raab. so we're going to neve e— dominic raab. so we're going to have a dominic— dominic raab. so we're going to have a dominic raab face off etter— have a dominic raab face off etter ttte.— have a dominic raab face off after this, plus— have a dominic raab face off after this, plus lots more from tne— after this, plus lots more from tne tetere. — after this, plus lots more from tne tetere. ant— after this, plus lots more from the papers. and should we spend cn tne— the papers. and should we spend more on the armed— the papers. and should we spend more on the armed forces? all of tnet— more on the armed forces? all of tnet plus— more on the armed forces? all of tnet ttue e— more on the armed forces? all of tnet ttue e rew— more on the armed forces? all of that plus a few chuckles as wet.— that plus a few chuckles as wet. see— that plus a few chuckles as wet. see wcu— that plus a few chuckles as well. see you .—

in two. lots of i in two. - lots of emails | tn twc. — lots of emails coming | tn twe— lots of emails coming in | tn twc. — lots of emails coming in across a lots of emails coming in across e renge— lots of emails coming in across e renge ct— lots of emails coming in across a range of subjects— lots of emails coming in across a range of subjects . this from a range of subjects. this from ttergeret— a range of subjects. this from ttergeret tn— a range of subjects. this from margaret in relation to diane attctt— margaret in relation to diane attctt .— margaret in relation to diane attctt . sne— margaret in relation to diane abbott . she says, mark, i wish abbott. she says, mark, i wish tectte— abbott. she says, mark, i wish tectte wcutt— abbott. she says, mark, i wish people would stop using irish ent— people would stop using irish and redheads— people would stop using irish and redheads in— people would stop using irish and redheads in the same sentence as anti—semitic . hmm. sentence as anti—semitic. hmm. wtet-e— sentence as anti—semitic. hmm. wtet-e tne— sentence as anti—semitic. hmm. what's the connection? i'm irish ent— what's the connection? i'm irish ent e— what's the connection? i'm irish ent e retneet— what's the connection? i'm irish and a redhead and— what's the connection? i'm irish and a redhead and i'm really tuzztet— and a redhead and i'm really puzzled about— and a redhead and i'm really puzzled about this. margaret, tnent— puzzled about this. margaret, tnent wcu— puzzled about this. margaret, tnent wcu tcr— puzzled about this. margaret, thank you for that. and regerttng— thank you for that. and regarding the- thank you for that. and regarding the phone alert at croo— regarding the phone alert at too tctew— regarding the phone alert at 3:00 today, did— regarding the phone alert at 3:00 today, did yours go off ttte— 3:00 today, did yours go off the trcn — 3:00 today, did yours go off this from anne— 3:00 today, did yours go off this from anne who says, mark, i trevtcuetw— this from anne who says, mark, i previously lived _ this from anne who says, mark, i previously lived in— this from anne who says, mark, i previously lived in a high risk ttcct— previously lived in a high risk ttcct etee— previously lived in a high risk flood area. this— previously lived in a high risk flood area. this security risk etert— flood area. this security risk etert wcutt— flood area. this security risk alert would have— flood area. this security risk alert would have been welcome ent— alert would have been welcome ent gtven— alert would have been welcome ent gtven ne— alert would have been welcome and given me peace of mind. snow ttetee— and given me peace of mind. snow ttetee gc— and given me peace of mind. snow ttetee gc ewew— and given me peace of mind. snow flakes go away and— and given me peace of mind. snow flakes go away and melt. i'll get— flakes go away and melt. i'll get twc— flakes go away and melt. i'll get twc ncre— flakes go away and melt. i'll get two more of— flakes go away and melt. i'll get two more of your emails

etcrttw— get two more of your emails encrttw. tut— get two more of your emails shortly, but let's— get two more of your emails shortly, but let's now have a tcct— shortly, but let's now have a tcct et— shortly, but let's now have a look at more— shortly, but let's now have a look at more of— shortly, but let's now have a look at more of the papers which are look at more of the papers which nct— look at more of the papers which nct ctt— look at more of the papers which are hot off the— look at more of the papers which are hot off the press. and we etert— are hot off the press. and we etert wttt— are hot off the press. and we start with the— are hot off the press. and we start with the daily express, ent— start with the daily express, ent tnew— start with the daily express, and they lead— start with the daily express, and they lead with the following tertng— and they lead with the following tertng sas— and they lead with the following daring sas mission plucks trttetn-e— daring sas mission plucks britain's to— daring sas mission plucks britain's to safety in a trenettc— britain's to safety in a dramatic rescue mission, sas tcrcee— dramatic rescue mission, sas forces evacuated— dramatic rescue mission, sas forces evacuated british ttttcnete— forces evacuated british diplomats and their families as rtgnttng— diplomats and their families as rtgnttng reget— diplomats and their families as fighting raged around them in war fighting raged around them in tcrn— fighting raged around them in war torn sudan— fighting raged around them in war torn sudan and sir mo farah ttte— war torn sudan and sir mo farah ttte en— war torn sudan and sir mo farah bids an emotional— war torn sudan and sir mo farah bids an emotional farewell to the bids an emotional farewell to tne tcntcn— bids an emotional farewell to the london marathon in metro next. — the london marathon in metro next. otene— the london marathon in metro next. diane abbott fighting for her next. diane abbott fighting for ten tcttttcet— next. diane abbott fighting for her political life— next. diane abbott fighting for her political life and escape trcn— her political life and escape from khartoum.— her political life and escape from khartoum. sas leads uk tnteeew— from khartoum. sas leads uk embassy airlift— from khartoum. sas leads uk embassy airlift and the i abbott tceee— embassy airlift and the i abbott tceee tetcur— embassy airlift and the i abbott loses labour whip— embassy airlift and the i abbott loses labour whip over offensive race comments and— loses labour whip over offensive race comments and some mps etreee— race comments and some mps teeee enger— race comments and some mps express anger after the party net— express anger after the party net wcrtet— express anger after the party had worked hard to regain trust tcttcwtng— had worked hard to regain trust tcttcwtng tne — had worked hard to regain trust following the anti—semitism crtete— following the anti—semitism crtete .— following the anti—semitism crtete . tne— following the anti—semitism crisis . the pain— following the anti—semitism crisis. the pain is exposed egetn— crisis. the pain is exposed egetn .— crisis. the pain is exposed egetn . cne— crisis. the pain is exposed again , one mp- crisis. the pain is exposed again , one mp tells the again, one mp tells the i neweteter— again, one mp tells the i neweteter .— again, one mp tells the i newspaper , whilst dame margaret newspaper, whilst dame margaret nctge— newspaper, whilst dame margaret hodge describes— newspaper, whilst dame margaret hodge describes ed abbott's tetter— hodge describes ed abbott's

tetter ee— hodge describes ed abbott's letter as deeply— hodge describes ed abbott's letter as deeply offensive . and letter as deeply offensive. and teet— letter as deeply offensive. and teet tut— letter as deeply offensive. and teet tut nct— letter as deeply offensive. and last but not least,— letter as deeply offensive. and last but not least, the times as ette— last but not least, the times as ettte tcrcee— last but not least, the times as elite forces. night—time rescue of elite forces. night—time rescue ct trttten— elite forces. night—time rescue of british diplomats in sudan ent— of british diplomats in sudan ent ccrtwn— of british diplomats in sudan and corbyn ally— of british diplomats in sudan and corbyn ally spark a new tetcur— and corbyn ally spark a new tetcur cw— and corbyn ally spark a new labour row over— and corbyn ally spark a new labour row over racism . there labour row over racism. there wcu— labour row over racism. there wcu gc. — labour row over racism. there wcu gc. wett— labour row over racism. there you go. well, labour certainly tcnt— you go. well, labour certainly tcn-t neet— you go. well, labour certainly don't need those— you go. well, labour certainly don't need those headlines, but tetenttng— don't need those headlines, but tetenttng cn— don't need those headlines, but depending on how starmer handles it , depending on how starmer handles tt . ternete— depending on how starmer handles tt . ternete ne— depending on how starmer handles it , perhaps he can— depending on how starmer handles it, perhaps he can try to depending on how starmer handles it , perhaps he can try to get it, perhaps he can try to get a grip— it, perhaps he can try to get a grtt cn— it, perhaps he can try to get a grtt cn wnet— it, perhaps he can try to get a grip on what has— it, perhaps he can try to get a grip on what has become quite a etgntttcent— grip on what has become quite a significant headache for him in the significant headache for him in tne teet— significant headache for him in tne teet 2a— significant headache for him in the last 24 hours.— significant headache for him in the last 24 hours. now it's time for the last 24 hours. now it's time tcr e— the last 24 hours. now it's time tcr e ne— the last 24 hours. now it's time for a new feature— the last 24 hours. now it's time for a new feature on the show. i'll for a new feature on the show. t-tt te— for a new feature on the show. t-tt te eettng— for a new feature on the show. i'll be asking my— for a new feature on the show. i'll be asking my pundits for tnet— i'll be asking my pundits for their headline,— i'll be asking my pundits for their headline, heroes and back page— their headline, heroes and back tege tenneu— their headline, heroes and back tege tenneu te— their headline, heroes and back page bannau is who should be cetetretet— page bannau is who should be celebrated and— page bannau is who should be celebrated and who should get a reetterrw— celebrated and who should get a reetterrw c— celebrated and who should get a reetterrw e sc— celebrated and who should get a raspberry ? so polly, who is your raspberry? so polly, who is your wett— raspberry? so polly, who is your vet etert— raspberry? so polly, who is your we'll start with,— raspberry? so polly, who is your we'll start with, i— raspberry? so polly, who is your we'll start with, i think, the tetttee— we'll start with, i think, the baddies. first,— we'll start with, i think, the baddies. first, your baddie , baddies. first, your baddie, tteeee. — baddies. first, your baddie, please. definitely. dominic teet. — please. definitely. dominic tteet. nee— please. definitely. dominic raab. he's been- please. definitely. dominic raab. 11 11t: raab. he's been found effectively guilty by a distinguished air lawyer who understands his stuff, knows what bullying is . the idea that what bullying is. the idea that this is all just sort of snowflake, he got up by the

civil service, you know, the guy who drew up the report is a serious person chosen by the government to do this report. there is no doubt that he has been intimidating people and behaving outrageously . and behaving outrageously. and what's more, has left with such bad grace, not a word of contrition , but turning round contrition, but turning round and saying this is a conspiracy against me across three departments with three different senior civil servants. the idea that there is a plot against him is frankly insane. and i'm you know, i'm pretty disgusted by it. well, jo—anne nadler, we can jump— it. well, jo—anne nadler, we can runt eteet— it. well, jo—anne nadler, we can runt eneet tc— it. well, jo—anne nadler, we can jump ahead to your— c well, jo—anne nadler, we can jump ahead to your headline net.— jump ahead to your headline nerc. wntcn— jump ahead to your headline hero, which is— jump ahead to your headline hero, which is one dominic raab. so hero, which is one dominic raab. sc wnw— hero, which is one dominic raab. sc wnw tc— hero, which is one dominic raab. sc wnw tc wcu— hero, which is one dominic raab. so why do you disagree with rcttw— so why do you disagree with rcttw ec— so why do you disagree with polly so much? _ so why do you disagree with polly so much? i polly so much? because i think that that well, i totally disagree on the issue of the manner of his of his departure, which i think has been exemplary. he said that were there any questions to be raised about him , he would he would about him, he would he would leave . and although he was leave. and although he was actually and i'd hesitate to use the phrase found guilty , but

the phrase found guilty, but although within the terms of the remit of the investigator action, he was found to have breached those terms on only two points, including things like asking people or commenting to people that their work had not been done to a sufficiently high standard . and so i think on that standard. and so i think on that bafis standard. and so i think on that basis alone, the fact that he has gone and effective, he saved the prime minister from what would have been a no doubt a campaign of kind of a campaign to get him out from the press and from the opposition . then and from the opposition. then i think that he has put his party and his leader ahead of his own career. and that's admirable . career. and that's admirable. well, yes. i mean, polly, i'm wcu— well, yes. i mean, polly, i'm sure you admired— �*itvt�*t:4 gt:5 i mean, polly, i'm sure you admired gordon brown, but sure you admired gordon brown, tut ne— sure you admired gordon brown, tut ne wee— sure you admired gordon brown, but he was famous— sure you admired gordon brown, but he was famous for his temper. — but he was famous for his renter. ant— but he was famous for his temper. and i— but he was famous for his temper. and i think it was antrew— temper. and i think it was andrew rawnsley's book, your cctteegue— andrew rawnsley's book, your cctteegue tn— andrew rawnsley's book, your colleague in the— andrew rawnsley's book, your colleague in the guardian who eert— colleague in the guardian who eettlwee— colleague in the guardian who eettlwee gutte— colleague in the guardian who said-was quite a— colleague in the guardian who said was quite a brute . bad said he was quite a brute. bad net— said he was quite a brute. bad net tc— said he was quite a brute. bad news had to be— said he was quite a brute. bad news had to be sandwiched with bits news had to be sandwiched with ttte ct— news had to be sandwiched with ttte ct gcct— news had to be sandwiched with bits of good news.— news had to be sandwiched with bits of good news. and he broke etcut—e- bits of good news. and he broke etcut—e weet. - bits of good news. and he broke. about—a week. .he about three phones a week. no he did about three phones a week. no he ttt get— about three phones a week. no he ttt get-engrw— about three phones a week. no he ttt get-engrw ent— about three phones a week. no he did get angry and throw did get very angry and throw tntnge— did get very angry and throw tntnge-tut— did get very angry and throw things but didn't kind things about, but he didn't kind of things about, but he didn't kind ct—ctvtt- things about, but he didn't kind

of_civil servants,| of throw them at civil servants, ttt— of throw them at civil servants, ttt ne — of throw them at civil servants, nor did he attack— of throw them at civil servants, nor did he attack civil eervente. — nor did he attack civil servants. i- nor did he attack civil servants. 11 nor did he attack civil- servants. i mean, that was not what it was about. so it's okay if bully colleagues rather if you bully colleagues rather than don't think than it's okay. i don't think you your temper if you should lose your temper if you're position you're in a position of authority, you should control your temper and behave well and politely of politely at all times. so of course, think it's all course, i don't think it's all right, it was plainly not of right, but it was plainly not of the at all, and it was the same ilk at all, and it was not it was not about bullying civil servants and, you know, civil servants and, you know, civil really civil servants can't really answer they've answer back. this time. they've sort but across three sort of did. but across three different departments. i think the other thing about dominic raab left the ministry raab is he has left the ministry of justice his second time there in the worst state it's ever been in. we are now having criminal cases being booked in 2 or 3 years ahead. well how do victims get any justice, whatever, with such long, long delays? all to do with so many courts having closed down the austerity austerity years , austerity austerity years, having really hit that department very hard? that's right. he didn't stand up to it. now, in the 20 tens, the justice tetertnent— now, in the 20 tens, the justice tetennent gct— now, in the 20 tens, the justice department got effective cuts of .a%_ department got effective cuts of acre unten— department got effective cuts of 40% under the _ department got effective cuts of 40% under the then justice eecreterw— 40% under the then justice secretary, kenneth clarke. so

tnew-re— secretary, kenneth clarke. so they're clearly— secretary, kenneth clarke. so they're clearly paying the price . tut— they're clearly paying the price now . but briefly,— they're clearly paying the price now . but briefly, if you can, now. but briefly, if you can, attte— now. but briefly, if you can, attte teen— now. but briefly, if you can, albie team raab or or not? look, i albie team raab or or not? look, t tntnt— albie team raab or or not? look, i think dominic— albie team raab or or not? look, i think dominic put— albie team raab or or not? look, i think dominic put himself in a tttttcutt— i think dominic put himself in a difficult position— i think dominic put himself in a difficult position by saying tnet— difficult position by saying tnet ne— difficult position by saying that he would— difficult position by saying that he would resign if he was tcunt. — that he would resign if he was tcunt. wee— that he would resign if he was found. was that— that he would resign if he was found. was that a- that he would resign if he was found. was that a mistake to have? well, i think he might look back at that and think perhaps it was a mistake. but look, ultimately i think rishi sunak has had to behave very heavy because boris heavy handedly because boris johnson was very light touch when it came to ministers misbehaving. and boris johnson was down by an inability was brought down by an inability to handle these situations properly. and that has meant that liz truss sacked conor burns. probably was not the best decision because he was later found not to be guilty of the crime that he was alleged to have done . and with dominic raab have done. and with dominic raab perhaps as well, the prime minister again could be maybe accused behaving heavy accused of behaving heavy handedly. i think this handedly. but i think this is because as johnson did because, as boris johnson did not was not good enough at handung not was not good enough at handling these situations. and so the two prime ministers since him have had to behave in a very

well. i him have had to behave in a very well . i tend him have had to behave in a very well. i tend to agree. and i tntnt— well. i tend to agree. and i tntnt tne— well. i tend to agree. and i think the problem- i tend to agree. and i think the problem with boris, tcttw— think the problem with boris, rcttw. te— think the problem with boris, polly te tnet— think the problem with boris, polly, is that he— think the problem with boris, polly, is that he was an inveterate— polly, is that he was an inveterate character. you know, tnet— inveterate character. you know, tnet ne— inveterate character. you know, tnet ne ne— inveterate character. you know, that he he didn't— inveterate character. you know, that he he didn't have the ccureeg— that he he didn't have the cuge tc— that he he didn't have the courage to fire— that he he didn't have the courage to fire people. and tnet-e— courage to fire people. and that's effectively what sunak's tcne — that's effectively what sunak's tcne wttt— that's effectively what sunak's done with with— that's effectively what sunak's done with with raab, or at least eccettet— done with with raab, or at least eccettet tte— done with with raab, or at least accepted his resignation. an let me tett— accepted his resignation. an let me tett wcu— accepted his resignation. an let me tell you that— accepted his resignation. an let me tell you that albie back. me tell you that albie is back. page— me tell you that albie is back. rege-ttene- me tell you that albie is back. page diane abbott and page batty was diane abbott and rcttw-e— page batty was diane abbott and polly's headline— page batty was diane abbott and polly's headline hero morgan trcwtent— polly's headline hero morgan trowland and— polly's headline hero morgan trowland and marcus decker. so ttere— trowland and marcus decker. so tnere wcu— trowland and marcus decker. so tnere wcu gc. — trowland and marcus decker. so there you go. thank you to my eneztng— there you go. thank you to my amazing pundits— there you go. thank you to my amazing pundits tonight, most tntcrtenttw— amazing pundits tonight, most tntcrtenttw-wcurl importantly to you for your ccntenw.— importantly to you for your ccntenw. we— importantly to you for your company. we do it all again company. we will do it all again on company. we will do it all again cn trttew— company. we will do it all again cn trttew trcn— company. we will do it all again on friday from eight till 11. went— on friday from eight till 11. went up.— on friday from eight till 11. went up. tte— on friday from eight till 11. next up, it's headliners .