. the health barclay unlawful. the health barclay says he's been left with no choice but to proceed with legal action following attempts by his officials to resolve the situation . it comes as the union situation. it comes as the union prepares to take industri action from the 30th of april to the 2nd of may. the rcn leader pat cullen described the government's anti—trade union legislation as draconian . well, legislation as draconian. well, the confederation of british industry says it has dismissed a number of people after a series of sexual misconduct and rape allegations means dozens of the body's members, including bmw, vodafone phone and john lewis, have left with the organisation suspending all its policy and membership activities . earlier, membership activities. earlier, the chancellor, jeremy hunt, said there's no point engaging with the cbi any more and that the government wants to work with the trade body that sticks up for business. now as you've been hearing, sir keir starmer says the comments made by the labour mp diane abbott were anti—semitic . labour mp diane abbott were anti—semitic. in an article for the observer , the former shadow

the observer, the former shadow health secretary said a jewish, irish and traveller people experience prejudice but not racism. she's since withdrawn the remarks and apologised used. labour has previously come under fire for anti—semitic remarks made by former party leader jeremy corbyn. sir keir said he was absolutely right to act as swiftly as he did what she wrote yesterday. i swiftly as he did what she wrote yesterday . i utterly condemn and yesterday. i utterly condemn and i said— yesterday. i utterly condemn and i said we— yesterday. i utterly condemn and i said we would— yesterday. i utterly condemn and i said we would tear— : i utterly condemn and i said we would tear out anti—semitism by its roots. i meant— anti—semitism by its roots. i meant it.— anti—semitism by its roots. i meant it. and— anti—semitism by its roots. i meant it. and that's why we acted— meant it. and that's why we aaaea sa— meant it. and that's why we acted so swiftly— meant it. and that's why we acted so swiftly yesterday . i acted so swiftly yesterday. i thank— acted so swiftly yesterday. i thank ars— acted so swiftly yesterday. i thank aa-s a— acted so swiftly yesterday. i think it's a mark of how far the labour— think it's a mark of how far the labour party— think it's a mark of how far the labour party has— think it's a mark of how far the labour party has changed and that— labour party has changed and that we— labour party has changed and that we acted _ labour party has changed and that we acted so— labour party has changed and that we acted so swiftly and that— that we acted so swiftly and that we— that we acted so swiftly and that we take— that we acted so swiftly and that we take it— that we acted so swiftly and that we take it so seriously. baa— that we take it so seriously. baa ._ that we take it so seriously. but i condemn— that we take it so seriously. but i condemn what she said. sir but i condemn what she said. sir kar— but i condemn what she said. sir keir starmer— but i condemn what she said. sir keir starmer now- but i condemn what she said. sir keir starmer now the- but i condemn what she said. sir keir starmer now the africa minister andrew mitchell, says the government is exploring every conceivable option to evacuate british nationals from sudanin evacuate british nationals from sudan in northeast africa . sudan in northeast africa. germany has already evacuated more than 300 people today. we believe british citizens were among them . an emergency cobra

among them. an emergency cobra meeting has been held today with the foreign office advising those still in the country to stay indoors and await further instruction . asians amid a instruction. asians amid a violent conflict between the sudanese army and a powerful paramilitary group. there are between 2 and 4000 uk citizens still in the country here. the court of appeal has heard the accusation that judges showed excessive deference towards the home office's view that promises made by the rwandan government would protect migrants from potential ill treatment . six potential ill treatment. six asylum seekers in the uk are challenging the high court's dismissal of a series of legal bids against the illegal migration bill by the home secretary, suella braverman says she needs the crucial power to stop european judges from intervening in the deportation of people who arrive in the uk via unauthorised routes . and via unauthorised routes. and lastly , the queen consort has lastly, the queen consort has paid tribute to the former strictly come dancing judge len

goodman , who has died at the age goodman, who has died at the age of 78. buckingham palace says camilla, who's danced with len goodman, was saddened to hear of his death. dame arlene phillips said her heart was truly broken . darcey bussell called him a true gentleman. fellow judge craig revel. horwood said len would live with him forever, and bruno tonioli called him the one and only ballroom legend. he was and only ballroom legend. he was a judge on the show from 2004 to 2016 when his agent said he died peacefully and will be sorely missed by all who knew him . missed by all who knew him. that's all from me. i'm back in an hour now. back to . an hour now. back to. nigel well, yesterday was saint - well, yesterday was saint george-s nay.— . well, yesterday was saint george's day. and— . well, yesterday was saint george's day. and as- well, yesterday was saint george's day. and as were george's day. and as you were all george's day. and as you were alt-ready— george's day. and as you were au-aeaay aa— george's day. and as you were all-ready to get- george's day. and as you were all ready to get your all getting ready to get your messaeg— message alert from the government— message alert from the government at 3 pm. or have to say— government at 3 pm. or have to say .— government at 3 pm. or have to say . mam-a— government at 3 pm. or have to say a meme gea— government at 3 pm. or have to

say i didn't get it.— government at 3 pm. or have to say i didn't get it. i— government at 3 pm. or have to say i didn't get it. i disabled me— say i didn't get it. i disabled the meme— say i didn't get it. i disabled the phone but— say i didn't get it. i disabled the phone but as— say i didn't get it. i disabled the phone but as we waited for ma— the phone but as we waited for mat a— the phone but as we waited for mat a awe— the phone but as we waited for that a new race— the phone but as we waited for that a new race row erupted. but ems— that a new race row erupted. but this same— that a new race row erupted. but this same as— that a new race row erupted. but this time it was— that a new race row erupted. but this time it was caused by diane amass. — this time it was caused by diane amass. m— this time it was caused by diane amass. m was— this time it was caused by diane abbott. it was a— this time it was caused by diane abbott. it was a letter that she mae— abbott. it was a letter that she had primed— abbott. it was a letter that she had ammea m— abbott. it was a letter that she had printed in the— abbott. it was a letter that she had printed in the observer and basaeauy— had printed in the observer and basically what— had printed in the observer and basically what she— had printed in the observer and basically what she was saying is mae— basically what she was saying is maa jewi5h_ basically what she was saying is that jewish people— basically what she was saying is that jewish people travel hours ama— that jewish people travel hours and others— that jewish people travel hours and others may— that jewish people travel hours and others may experience area-ease,— and others may experience prejudice, baa— and others may experience prejudice, but they don't suffer mam— prejudice, but they don't suffer from eamgm— prejudice, but they don't suffer from outright racism . and it's from outright racism. and it's sea— from outright racism. and it's sea as— from outright racism. and it's sea as am— from outright racism. and it's led to an absolute storm of command— led to an absolute storm of condemn nation.- led to an absolute storm of condemn nation. now i think for sir condemn nation. now i think for sm kem— condemn nation. now i think for sir keir starmer— condemn nation. now i think for sir keir starmer this must be take— sir keir starmer this must be like christmas— sir keir starmer this must be like christmas has come early. mesmer— like christmas has come early. another chance— like christmas has come early. another chance to _ like christmas has come early. another chance to prove that he ream— another chance to prove that he aeauy as— another chance to prove that he really is cleaning— another chance to prove that he really is cleaning up the labour pam — really is cleaning up the labour pam mes— really is cleaning up the labour eamy. me-s gea— really is cleaning up the labour party. he's got rid— really is cleaning up the labour party. he's got rid of jeremy comm— party. he's got rid of jeremy comm ama— party. he's got rid of jeremy corbyn and now— party. he's got rid of jeremy corbyn and now here was jeremy comm-s— corbyn and now here was jeremy corbyn's shadow— corbyn and now here was jeremy corbyn's shadow home secretary giving— corbyn's shadow home secretary giving seame— corbyn's shadow home secretary giving starmer a— corbyn's shadow home secretary giving starmer a complete open gea- — giving starmer a complete open gea- mes— giving starmer a complete open goal. he's acted— giving starmer a complete open goal. he's acted quickly. he's made— goal. he's acted quickly. he's made as— goal. he's acted quickly. he's made it clear— goal. he's acted quickly. he's made it clear he— goal. he's acted quickly. he's made it clear he thinks her comments were— made it clear he thinks her comments were anti—semitic and she is— comments were anti—semitic and see is suspended.— comments were anti—semitic and she is suspended. i— comments were anti—semitic and she is suspended. i very much daem— she is suspended. i very much aeam mysem— she is suspended. i very much doubt myself that she'll be auewea— doubt myself that she'll be allowed as— doubt myself that she'll be allowed to stand for the labour party— allowed to stand for the labour easy as— allowed to stand for the labour easy as me— allowed to stand for the labour party at the next— allowed to stand for the labour party at the next election . i

party at the next election. i amm— party at the next election. i mmk ems— party at the next election. i think this is— party at the next election. i think this is the— party at the next election. i think this is the end of diane abbott-s— think this is the end of diane abbott's career— think this is the end of diane abbott's career ._ think this is the end of diane abbott's career . so tell me what abbott's career. so tell me what you— abbott's career. so tell me what you mmk. — abbott's career. so tell me what you think. farage@gbnews.uk but the tast— you think. farage@gbnews.uk but the last sentence— you think. farage@gbnews.uk but the last sentence of the letter is sometime— the last sentence of the letter is something that— the last sentence of the letter is something that no media aaateas— is something that no media outlets have— is something that no media outlets have picked up on at all ama— outlets have picked up on at all and tam-a— outlets have picked up on at all and don't wish— outlets have picked up on at all and don't wish to— outlets have picked up on at all and don't wish to discuss this or and don't wish to discuss this a debate. — and don't wish to discuss this or debate. you— and don't wish to discuss this or debate. you see, they find it tast— or debate. you see, they find it test tea— or debate. you see, they find it test tea amat— or debate. you see, they find it just too awful because at the end:— just too awful because at the end, what— just too awful because at the end, what she— just too awful because at the end, what she wrote is there were no white— end, what she wrote is there were no white seeming people mamaetea— were no white seeming people mamaetea am— were no white seeming people manacled on slave ships. you see in diame— manacled on slave ships. you see in diane abbott's— manacled on slave ships. you see in diane abbott's world, slavery is in diane abbott's world, slavery ts tast— in diane abbott's world, slavery is just something— in diane abbott's world, slavery is just something that white teame— is just something that white peepte ata— is just something that white peepte at aa— is just something that white people did to black people and we ae— people did to black people and we are to feel— people did to black people and we are to feel guilty for the rest— we are to feel guilty for the rest at— we are to feel guilty for the rest of time— we are to feel guilty for the rest of time about what happened.— rest of time about what happened. yet the story , i happened. yet the story, i tetteve— happened. yet the story, i tetteve, ts— happened. yet the story, i believe, is far— happened. yet the story, i believe, is far more complex, far more— believe, is far more complex, far more complicated, and yet no one ever wants to _ far more complicated, and yet no one ever wants to talk about it. mett— one ever wants to talk about it. wet, tea-s— one ever wants to talk about it. well, let's talk— one ever wants to talk about it. well, let's talk about it now. tantam— well, let's talk about it now. tamem em— well, let's talk about it now. tonight an em— well, let's talk about it now. tonight on gb news. and i'm joined— tonight on gb news. and i'm temea m— tonight on gb news. and i'm joined by author— tonight on gb news. and i'm joined by author and professor of joined by author and professor at histam— joined by author and professor of history at— joined by author and professor of history at exeter university, jeremy— of history at exeter university, jeremy mask,— of history at exeter university,

jeremy black, mp obe. jeremy, mam— jeremy black, mp obe. jeremy, thank you— jeremy black, mp obe. jeremy, thank you very— jeremy black, mp obe. jeremy, thank you very much indeed for joining— thank you very much indeed for joining me— thank you very much indeed for joining me tonight on the show. new— joining me tonight on the show. new tea-s— joining me tonight on the show. new tea-s my— joining me tonight on the show. now let's try and— joining me tonight on the show. now let's try and get some paper— now let's try and get some paper facts— now let's try and get some proper facts out— now let's try and get some proper facts out there, shall wee— proper facts out there, shall we.7 wouldn't— proper facts out there, shall we.7 wouldn't that proper facts out there, shall we? wouldn't that make a nice change— we? wouldn't that make a nice change m— we? wouldn't that make a nice change in ms— we? wouldn't that make a nice change in this slavery debate? wmae— change in this slavery debate? wmae teame— change in this slavery debate? white people, white europeans sum-est— white people, white europeans were subject to— white people, white europeans were subject to slavery too, is mat— were subject to slavery too, is that mem— were subject to slavery too, is that meme — were subject to slavery too, is that right 7 it— were subject to slavery too, is that right 7 it it's- were subject to slavery too, is that right ? c c cains that right? it it's absolutely correct, including actually british people. there were moroccan slave raiders on the coast of devon , for example, in coast of devon, for example, in the 1620s. oh yes. and i also i , mese— the 1620s. oh yes. and i also i mean , these these— ti�*q o" «stilt? and i also i mean , these these barbary mean, these these barbary mates— mean, these these barbary states was— mean, these these barbary pirates who took something like one pirates who took something like a us— pirates who took something like one a 1.25 million— pirates who took something like one a 1.25 million slaves. they teak— one a 1.25 million slaves. they took .— one a 1.25 million slaves. they took . ama— one a 1.25 million slaves. they took . me yes— one a 1.25 million slaves. they took . and yes, they actually took. and yes, they actually tamaea— took. and yes, they actually tamaea ama— took. and yes, they actually landed and raided in ireland and in devon— landed and raided in ireland and in devon ama— landed and raided in ireland and in devon and other— landed and raided in ireland and in devon and other places like mat.— in devon and other places like ma. ma— in devon and other places like that. and certainly in italy and countries— that. and certainly in italy and countries like— that. and certainly in italy and countries like that. you know atom— countries like that. you know about us— countries like that. you know about 1.25 million white people takea— about 1.25 million white people were taken into— about 1.25 million white people were taken into slavery. the emer— were taken into slavery. the other mime,— were taken into slavery. the other thing, jeremy , that other thing, jeremy, that i mamm— other thing, jeremy, that i meaamwas— other thing, jeremy, that i thought was remarkable, you mem— thought was remarkable, you know, was this— thought was remarkable, you know, was this book white cargo , wmaem — know, was this book white cargo , written a— know, was this book white cargo , written a few— know, was this book white cargo , written a few years ago exptamme— , written a few years ago explaining that about 300,000

emtsm— explaining that about 300,000 emism teame— explaining that about 300,000 british people in— explaining that about 300,000 british people in the 17th and tem— british people in the 17th and mm eemam— british people in the 17th and 18th century were tricked into going— 18th century were tricked into going as— 18th century were tricked into going to america and being tsaes — going to america and being staves nev,— going to america and being slaves. now, this. if this is ame— slaves. now, this. if this is true, mis— slaves. now, this. if this is true, this would- slaves. now, this. if this is true, this would change much of the true, this would change much of me mamatvae— true, this would change much of the narrative ._ true, this would change much of the narrative . what's that story the narrative. what's that story 7 the narrative. what's that story e wen.— the narrative. what's that story e vveu, teame— the narrative. what's that story ? well, people went- the narrative. what's that story ? well, people went as- ? well, people went as indentured labour and some of them who were convicts, of course, were actually free. if you want to use the term manacled. so the idea , which manacled. so the idea, which diane abbott mentioned, that it was only black people that were manacled, no, that's not true . i manacled, no, that's not true. i think it's fair to say that coercive labour for most people in the world was the norm in the 15, 16th, 17th century. whether you're a slave , whether you're you're a slave, whether you're indentured labour, whether you're convict labour, whether you're convict labour, whether you're a serf . so lots of people you're a serf. so lots of people of lots of different colours were slaves of some type or other. and you could also argue that into the modern age people, for example, you could say the entire modern population of nonh entire modern population of north korea are slaves. there was certainly slavery in the

soviet gulags . there was slavery soviet gulags. there was slavery in the german concentrate camps. so the idea that it is only slavery has only been suffered by black people is, is wrong. and, you know , the other point and, you know, the other point that needs to be faced is all societies, all cultures, all civilisations , all cultures are civilisations, all cultures are quite capable of inflicting harm on others. the real problem with diane abbott's approach is her idea that guilt is hereditary. now that's not a principle in british law and as far as i'm aware, it's not a principle in any other legal code. certainly in any legal code. in a democracy . so if you do democracy. so if you do something and you go to prison, it doesn't mean that your grandson or grand daughter is in some way , you know, a parasite . some way, you know, a parasite. and i do think , you know, if and i do think, you know, if i was diane abbott, i would confront more the problems of the world today. i mean, look , the world today. i mean, look, for example, you've already had on your news bulletin the situation in sudan . but, you

situation in sudan. but, you know, she's an mp for a london seat, we all know. and at the same thing would be true in exeter where i live, though in a much smaller scale within five miles we live, there miles of where we live, there are there will people are slaves. there will be people that sexually that have been sexually trafficked this country, trafficked into this country, some of them white, some of them black, for either labour or for sexual purposes . and actually, i sexual purposes. and actually, i would rather diane abbott and other mps were addressing. indeed, theresa may tried to address this in the modern slavery act. and again, the united nations reckons there's more than 20 million people who are slaves in the world at this moment , most are slaves in the world at this moment, most of them are slaves in the world at this moment , most of them countries moment, most of them countries like mauritania, niger, sudan can again, possibly diane abbott should be devoting her attention to those people rather than sounding off about the 17th and 18th century about which, alas, she knows very little . why do she knows very little. why do you think it is— she knows very little. why do you think it is that— she knows very little. why do you think it is that in- wig c why do you think it is that in britain ama— you think it is that in britain and america— you think it is that in britain and america in— you think it is that in britain and america in particular, we're being— and america in particular, we're being teta— and america in particular, we're being told that— and america in particular, we're being told that somehow we have to atone— being told that somehow we have to atone tav— being told that somehow we have to atone for what— being told that somehow we have to atone for what happened etes— to atone for what happened centuries ago— to atone for what happened centuries ago and the debate is

many— centuries ago and the debate is wholly confined— centuries ago and the debate is wholly confined to— centuries ago and the debate is wholly confined to black people tram— wholly confined to black people tram ataca— wholly confined to black people from africa going— wholly confined to black people from africa going over to the amevteas — from africa going over to the americas. why— from africa going over to the americas. why are we not attavet— americas. why are we not allowed, jeremy, to have this debate— allowed, jeremy, to have this debate mat— allowed, jeremy, to have this debate that you— allowed, jeremy, to have this debate that you and i have been mavma— debate that you and i have been tavma tav— debate that you and i have been having tat tte— debate that you and i have been having for the last— debate that you and i have been having for the last few minutes? i having for the last few minutes? . tam-t— having for the last few minutes? . tam-t mew. — having for the last few minutes? . tam-t mew. ._ having for the last few minutes? i don't know. i don't- having for the last few minutes? i don't know. ctzt" c i don't know. i don't know. i think there are a number of people who hate our country and i think can i make this clear? this is nothing to do with people of any particular ethnicity. there are white people you know, who people as well as you know, who dislike the history of our country. and i'm afraid to say they just looking for mud to throw. and i don't think it's very attractive. there are problems britain. are problems in britain. there are things our history we things about our history we should embarrassed about. but should be embarrassed about. but that doesn't that we have that doesn't mean that we have to go around with sackcloth and ashes at the present day. no more other countries should more than other countries should do for the past, which is well beyond what those of the present day are responsible for. so for all of us, we should feel contrite if we do something wrong ourselves. if my grandfather or great grandfather did something wrong, that's not

i'm afraid , a something that i'm afraid, a something that i feel that i have to confess to or feel, you know, sick about . or feel, you know, sick about. no, quite right. jeremy black, tmamt— no, quite right. jeremy black, tmamt vea— no, quite right. jeremy black, team you very— no, quite right. jeremy black, thank you very much indeed for joining— thank you very much indeed for joining us— thank you very much indeed for joining as am— thank you very much indeed for joining us on this— thank you very much indeed for joining us on this debate. of tt— joining us on this debate. of course, if we _ joining us on this debate. of course, if we kept on going down tats— course, if we kept on going down tms ate— course, if we kept on going down this route, we'd— course, if we kept on going down this route, we'd want the vttmgs— this route, we'd want the vttmgs tte— this route, we'd want the vikings, the countries, norway, denmark,— denmark, they'd have to apatagtse— denmark, they'd have to aaatagtse ,— denmark, they'd have to apologise , guys and send us apologise, guys and send us reparattems— apologise, guys and send us reparations-of— apologise, guys and send us. reparations-of-would reparations as of course, would the-amt— reparations as of course, would the-amt sa— reparations as of course, would the-amt so am- reparations as of course, would the-and so on and- reparations as of course, would the and so on and so the italians and so on and so tatte— the italians and so on and so tatt- ta— the italians and so on and so tatt- ta ._ the italians and so on and so forth. no i think— the italians and so on and so forth. no i think on the historical— forth. no i think on the historical facts, diana abbott mas— historical facts, diana abbott mas proved— historical facts, diana abbott has proved absolutely conclusively- has proved absolutely conclusively that her history is ateat— conclusively that her history is ateat as— conclusively that her history is ateat as gast— conclusively that her history is about as good as— conclusively that her history is about as good as her mathematics . eat— about as good as her mathematics . but politically,— about as good as her mathematics . but politically, what does it all . but politically, what does it at mean— . but politically, what does it all mean now?— . but politically, what does it all mean now? harry burns joins tamer meat— all mean now? harry burns joins me, former head of— all mean now? harry burns joins me, former head of labour eteettams— me, former head of labour elections at— me, former head of labour elections at the- me, former head of labour elections at the 2017 general eteettam— elections at the 2017 general eteettem .— elections at the 2017 general election . when— elections at the 2017 general election . when was this like election. when was this like a cmtstmas— election. when was this like a christmas day— election. when was this like a christmas day present for sir teta— christmas day present for sir keir starmer?— christmas day present for sir keir starmer? a— christmas day present for sir keir starmer? a chance to prove mat— keir starmer? a chance to prove that tte— keir starmer? a chance to prove that me patty— keir starmer? a chance to prove that the party absolutely has target— that the party absolutely has target ttsett— that the party absolutely has purged itself of— that the party absolutely has purged itself of anti—semitic tsm — purged itself of anti—semitic tsm amt— purged itself of anti—semitic ism and perhaps can i put it to you— ism and perhaps can i put it to vea mat— ism and perhaps can i put it to vaa tmat tte— ism and perhaps can i put it to you that the labour party had become— you that the labour party had become obsessed— you that the labour party had become obsessed with the palestinian— become obsessed with the palestinian cause ? �*fvt�*tzgc cast" c palestinian cause? well, i don't think anybody ever wants to hear those sorts of views spoken out

loud. i mean, i left the labour party in 2017 because of jeremy corbyn and the anti semitism. i've since rejoined because of luciana berger has rejoined and the equality and human rights commission have given it a clean bill of health. so i don't think anybody ever wants to hear those those words said out loud. but obviously it is a point for keir starmer to prove that the labour party has changed. as he said, they exchanged. and i think you only have to look at the facts to see that it's not the party of 2017 anymore and there is a pro—palestinian obsession with these people, isn't there? i mean, ken livingstone c , i mean, ken livingstone has got it. mean, ken livingstone has got tt. jeremy— mean, ken livingstone has got it. jeremy corbyn's got it to a eevtam— it. jeremy corbyn's got it to a certain-cherie- it. jeremy corbyn's got it to a certain cherie blair had it. jeremy corbyn's got it to a cewhen cherie blair had it. jeremy corbyn's got it to a cewhen she cherie blair had it. jeremy corbyn's got it to a cewhen she saidierie blair had it. jeremy corbyn's got it to a cewhen she said she blair had it. jeremy corbyn's got it to a cewhen she said she could had it when she said she could svmpatmse— it when she said she could sympathise and- it when she said she could sympathise and understand palestinian— sympathise and understand palestinian suicide. but what is tats— palestinian suicide. but what is tats-ateat— palestinian suicide. but what is tats-ateate — palestinian suicide. but what is this-about ? i— palestinian suicide. but what is this-about ? i don't- palestinian suicide. but what is this about? cc?" c this all about? i don't think i would equate cherie blair to a to ken livingstone. no, but her comment was very interesting. you know, when you you know, when she said, you mew,— you know, when she said, you mew, sme— you know, when she said, you know, she wouldn't approve, know, she she wouldn't approve, but. understood _ know, she she wouldn't approve, but. understood the - know, she she wouldn't approve, but understood the motives know, she she wouldn't approve, bu palestinian stood the motives know, she she wouldn't approve, bu palestinian terrorists. motives know, she she wouldn't approve, bupalestinian terrorists. but,ies of palestinian terrorists. but, but,— of palestinian terrorists. but, tat, tat,— of palestinian terrorists. but, tat, tat-t— of palestinian terrorists. but, but, but,-i-that'sl but, but, but i think that's a vett— but, but, but i think that's a vevtt avvav— but, but, but i think that's a world away from _ but, but, but i think that's a world away from ken livingstone and world away from ken livingstone amt tem— world away from ken livingstone and ken livingstone. i accept

and ken livingstone. if i accept mat,— and ken livingstone. if i accept mat—tat,- and ken livingstone. if i accept that,-that, fine,- that, if i accept that, fine, t-tt— that, if i accept that, fine, t-tt-ttat— that, if i accept that, fine, i'll-that for-forl that, if i accept that, fine,- i'll-that for-for the i'll accept that for the for the amamemts— i'll accept that for the for the arguments-know- i'll accept that for the for the arguments. know , here. sure. arguments. you know, here. sure. but arguments. you know, here. sure. eat amat— arguments. you know, here. sure. eat what ts— arguments. you know, here. sure. but what is this— arguments. you know, here. sure. but what is this obsession that tsvaet— but what is this obsession that tsvaet ts— but what is this obsession that tsvaet ts a— but what is this obsession that israel is a bad— but what is this obsession that israel is a bad evil country? vett— israel is a bad evil country? vvett. mete— israel is a bad evil country? well, there is— israel is a bad evil country? well, there is a— israel is a bad evil country? well, there is a there- israel is a bad evil country? well, there is a there is- well, there is a there is a because that leaches doesn't it, into language that seem to be anti—semitic . so there is a anti—semitic. so there is a there is a part of the hard left of the labour party, but also the country and around the world that believe the greatest threat to humanity is the us and the capitalists. and they tend to then fall down into the sort of, you know, jewish conspiracy line of thinking, which then leads to sort of anti anti—semitic views. so yes, you certainly exist here. diane abbott, after this tettev— here. diane abbott, after this tettev vas— viii diane abbott, after this letter was published “viii diane abbott, after this letter was published that tespetatetv— letter was published that desperately scrabbled around . desperately scrabbled around. amt— desperately scrabbled around. amt te— desperately scrabbled around. amt ta sav— desperately scrabbled around. and to say that— desperately scrabbled around. and to say that the wrong draft mat— and to say that the wrong draft tat teem— and to say that the wrong draft tat teem ._ and to say that the wrong draft had been i mean,— and to say that the wrong draft had been i mean, it wasn't believable— had been i mean, it wasn't believable at— had been i mean, it wasn't believable at all that the wrong matt— believable at all that the wrong tvatt mat— believable at all that the wrong draft had been— believable at all that the wrong draft had been sent. do you tmmt— draft had been sent. do you tmmt met— draft had been sent. do you think her political career is now effectively— think her political career is now effectively over ? �*vvv�*vicc now effectively over? well, i met— now effectively over? well, i ttmt tt-s— now effectively over? well, i think it's going to be very difficult for her to come back.

i mean, i personally wouldn't want to see her standing as a as a as a labour candidate. i mean, you know, it's to say that you know, it's not to say that she done great things in she hasn't done great things in her was her career. she was a trailblazer being elected in trailblazer for being elected in 1987. those views just 1987. however, those views just simply compatible simply aren't compatible with keir labour today, keir starmer labour of today, which a party that proud which is a party that i am proud to be member of again. so the to be a member of again. so the anti—semitism, that's— to be a member of again. so the anti—semitism, that's it- to be a member of again. so the anti—semitism, that's it .- avg? “ so the anti—semitism, that's it . it's anti—semitism, that's it. it's over. have the— anti—semitism, that's it. it's over. have the hard left been eamptetetv— over. have the hard left been completely purged labour ? completely purged from labour? watt.— completely purged from labour? vvett. tt-s— completely purged from labour? vvett. as net— completely purged from labour? well, it's not necessarily- completely purged from labour? well, it's not necessarily over until disputes panel until the disputes panel have looked and ruled one way looked at this and ruled one way or another. however, like i said, i think it's quite difficult her to there's not difficult for her to there's not really back her really a road back for her whether the hard left has certainly been marginalised in the labour party and lots of them have chosen to leave or have been expelled. the work is never i you can't be never done. i think you can't be complacent with these with these issues. great issues. you know, the great staff labour party head staff of the labour party head office have to carry doing office have to carry on doing the of getting rid of the good work of getting rid of people aren't people whose views aren't compatible labour compatible with today's labour party shown party and as starmer shown leadership this, absolutely . leadership on this, absolutely. yeah. you know, yeah. i have to say, i you know, attesttvetv— yeah. i have to say, i you know, objectively, absolutely. did objectively, absolutely. he did stav— objectively, absolutely. he did sweat—- objectively, absolutely. he did show_on this- objectively, absolutely. he did show—on this and. show leadership on this and tarm— show leadership on this and harryv vea— show leadership on this and harry, you know,— show leadership on this and harry, you know, the criticism

of harry, you know, the criticism et-teem— harry, you know, the criticism et-teem ttat- harry, you know, the criticism of- been that it's - of him has been that it's ttttteatt— of him has been that it's difficult to— of him has been that it's difficult to know he really difficult to know what he really tetteves— difficult to know what he really tetteves m,— difficult to know what he really believes in, that— difficult to know what he really believes in, that he tends to step— believes in, that he tends to step amt— believes in, that he tends to chop and change his mind. they went— chop and change his mind. they went em— chop and change his mind. they went on a— chop and change his mind. they went on a big— chop and change his mind. they went on a big offensive with the atvevttsma— went on a big offensive with the advertising campaign, did advertising campaign, which did tate— advertising campaign, which did take tte— advertising campaign, which did take the-ttev- advertising campaign, which did take the they dominated take the agenda. they dominated the take the agenda. they dominated tme-.— take the agenda. they dominated tme-. amt,— take the agenda. they dominated tme-. amt, vea— take the agenda. they dominated the . and, you know, i've the agenda. and, you know, i've tame— the agenda. and, you know, i've tame times— the agenda. and, you know, i've done things-that- the agenda. and, you know, i've done things that in the done things like that in the past— done things like that in the past amt— done things like that in the past amt tt— done things like that in the past and it can— done things like that in the past and it can very, very past and it can be very, very etteettve— past and it can be very, very effective-the- past and it can be very, very effective. the blowback effective. and yet the blowback was:— effective. and yet the blowback was-— effective. and yet the blowback was- when— effective. and yet the blowback was- when te— effective. and yet the blowback was, -, when he - at - effective. and yet the blowback was, , when he at the was, well, when he was at the ces— was, well, when he was at the cm aetaattv— was, well, when he was at the cm aetaattv ,— was, well, when he was at the cps actually , he— was, well, when he was at the cps actually , he showed himself cps actually, he showed himself to cps actually, he showed himself telavettv— cps actually, he showed himself talmettv-am— cps actually, he showed himself to.pretty-on crime - cps actually, he showed himself to pretty on crime and to be pretty soft on crime and tte— to be pretty soft on crime and the deportation— to be pretty soft on crime and the deportation of jamaican vaatsts— the deportation of jamaican rapists-these- the deportation of jamaican. rapists -these things. rapists and all of these things. do rapists and all of these things. as we— rapists and all of these things. as we to— rapists and all of these things. as we to we— rapists and all of these things. do we do we you— rapists and all of these things. do we do we you know, you're eteavtv— do we do we you know, you're clearly happy— do we do we you know, you're clearly happy to_ do we do we you know, you're clearly happy to be back in the tateav— clearly happy to be back in the tataav patty,— clearly happy to be back in the labour party, but— clearly happy to be back in the labour party, but do we really mew— labour party, but do we really knew what— labour party, but do we really knew what tt— labour party, but do we really know what it stands for? so i tam-t— know what it stands for? so i tam-t tmmt— know what it stands for? so i don't think he— know what it stands for? so i don't think he showed himself to be don't think he showed himself to te sett— don't think he showed himself to be soft-crime— don't think he showed himself to be soft-crime when- don't think he showed himself to be soft crime when he was be soft on crime when he was wet. — be soft on crime when he was wet. lttmt— be soft on crime when he was dpp..think it's— be soft on crime when he was dpp. ithink it's a- be soft on crime when he was dpp.-think it's a it's- be soft on crime when he was dpp.-think it's a it's a- dpp. i think it's a it's a complex job and think he complex job and i think he would, know, he's proud of would, you know, he's proud of his record and, you know, i think that's the reason why everybody an everybody thought he would be an excellent leader of the people with saville at him. and with jemmy saville at him. and they'll throw all these “ and they'll throw all these things emttesstv—al endlessly. but that's just a mat-s— endlessly. but that's just a that'slslur. _ endlessly. but that's just a that's slur. : that's a slur. that's not based that's a slur. that's not based that's based in fact that's not based in fact or reason back. well, you reason that goes back. well, you say that, reason that goes back. well, you sav ttat, tat— reason that goes back. well, you sav tmat, tat ._ reason that goes back. well, you say that, but i mean— reason that goes back. well, you say that, but i mean but- reason that goes back. well, you say that, but i mean but i- “ g i well, you say that, but i mean but i mean, you— say that, but i mean but i mean, vea mew,— say that, but i mean but i mean, vaa mew, mete— say that, but i mean but i mean, you know, there could have been

aae agamst— you know, there could have been a case against saville, couldn't theret— a case against saville, couldn't tmevee eat— a case against saville, couldn't there? but-goes- a case against saville, couldn't. there? but-goes-you there? but that goes back to you smatt— there? but that goes back to you smeatt-teem. — there? but that goes back to you should-been. but- there? but that goes back to you should been. g should have been. but that goes back to your about back to your point about generating the of content generating the type of content that cut through. that generates cut through. right. something right. so saying something outlandish is outlandish or risque is the is the that get heard by the way that you get heard by people. so is why people. and so this is why politicians have stripes are politicians have all stripes are starting this new way starting to embrace this new way of communicating, which is why, you know, the advertising campaign was particularly effective because it's local effective because it's a local election lots of election campaign. lots of people attention, people aren't paying attention, but to gain cut but they managed to gain cut through, shows has through, which shows that he has got the strategy that got exactly the strategy that you be minister > you need to be prime minister > do think he's going to win? do you think he's going to win? dam-t— do you think he's going to win? dem-t you? — do you think he's going to win? aam-t you? we— do you think he's going to win? don't you? it's a— do you think he's going to win? don't you? c viv“vg do you think he's going to win? don't you? c viv“; don't you? it's a long way to go, suggest so. go, but the polls suggest so. well, see a lot of hard well, we'll see a lot of hard work. we'll see. harry burns, tmamt— work. we'll see. harry burns, tmamt vea— work. we'll see. harry burns, tmamt vaa very— we'll see. harry burns, thank you very much indeed for joining— thank you very much indeed for joining me— thank you very much indeed for joining amt— thank you very much indeed for joining me. and yeah, you know, it's joining me. and yeah, you know, tt-s-a— joining me. and yeah, you know, tt-s-a gast— joining me. and yeah, you know, tt-s-a goat-a- joining me. and yeah, you know, it's-a good-a good- it's been a good day, a good seame— it's been a good day, a good eaapteltavs— it's been a good day, a good couple-days for- it's been a good day, a good couple days for keir starmer. couple of days for keir starmer. i couple of days for keir starmer. . tam-t— couple of days for keir starmer. . teat-mane— couple of days for keir starmer. i don't diane abbott, i don't think diane abbott, i mean, she was— i don't think diane abbott, i mean, she was a— i don't think diane abbott, i mean, she was a trailblazer in years— mean, she was a trailblazer in wears—teat- mean, she was a trailblazer in years-don't think. mean, she was a trailblazer in years don't think in years gone by. i don't think in eem— years gone by. i don't think in eemt ttmes— years gone by. i don't think in recent times she's— years gone by. i don't think in recent times she's much of recent times she's been much of an recent times she's been much of am—te— recent times she's been much of am—te tte- an electoral asset to the conservative _ an electoral asset to the conservative party. now the gavemmemt— conservative party. now the government court. they'll government are in court. they'll be government are in court. they'll teleaavt— government are in court. they'll teleeavt tet— government are in court. they'll belcourt for four— government are in court. they'll be court for four days this be in court for four days this week— be in court for four days this week-tt-s— be in court for four days this week-it's over- be in court for four days this week it's over rwanda week and it's over the rwanda mam.— week and it's over the rwanda mam—mew- week and it's over the rwanda mam—mew tel week and it's over the rwanda. mam—mew ta wtm plan. how likely are they to win amt— plan. how likely are they to win amt-tees— plan. how likely are they to win amt-tees tt— plan. how likely are they to win and-does it all— plan. how likely are they to win and does it all mean after and what does it all mean after

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international safe haven right now , you're listening to gb news now, you're listening to gb news tatte— now, you're listening to gb news tatte .— now, you're listening to gb news tatte . — now, you're listening to gb news tatte . wett— now, you're listening to gb news tatte . wett .— now, you're listening to gb news radio . well , we— now, you're listening to gb news radio . �*vvv�*vici now, you're listening to gb news radio . radio. well, we always knew whatever the government did, there would be endless legal challenges , as some of them as a challenges, as some of them as a result of the echr and others , result of the echr and others, of course, because the human rights act, of course, is in british law. now, the government are british law. now, the government at— british law. now, the government are of course, trying— british law. now, the government are of course, trying in— c now, the government are of course, trying in many, many— are of course, trying in many, many ways. — are of course, trying in many, many ways. m— are of course, trying in many, many ways. it a— are of course, trying in many, many ways. in a moment i'll come to a— many ways. in a moment i'll come to a repeat— many ways. in a moment i'll come to a repeat em— many ways. in a moment i'll come to a report on rwanda. but for now:— to a report on rwanda. but for now, some-your— to a report on rwanda. but for now, some your thoughts on now, some of your thoughts on time— now, some of your thoughts on atame-eemtma- now, some of your thoughts on diane-coming in.- now, some of your thoughts on diane coming in. sean diane abbott coming in. sean savs— diane abbott coming in. sean savs vea— diane abbott coming in. sean says once you have been kicked out says once you have been kicked eatla— says once you have been kicked out-a political— says once you have been kicked out a political party, your out of a political party, your mama— out of a political party, your petttteat-ts- out of a political party, your political-is over. - out of a political party, your political is over. well, political career is over. well, mat— political career is over. well, not necessarily,— political career is over. well, not necessarily, no, because you eamltet— not necessarily, no, because you eamltet tast— not necessarily, no, because you eamltet taet m,— not necessarily, no, because you can let back in, elliott can be let back in, elliott savs.— can be let back in, elliott says. probably— can be let back in, elliott says. probably whether she can sawtve— says. probably whether she can savvtve as— says. probably whether she can savvtve as a— says. probably whether she can survive as a labour mp would be awtate— survive as a labour mp would be a wtate emet— survive as a labour mp would be a whole other question. if she, jeremy— a whole other question. if she, jeremy catwa— a whole other question. if she, jeremy corbyn and other labour evttes— jeremy corbyn and other labour exiles formed— jeremy corbyn and other labour exiles formed their own party, they— exiles formed their own party, they seate— exiles formed their own party, they could become a major thorn in they could become a major thorn m tataav-s— they could become a major thorn in labour's side.— they could become a major thorn in labour's side. well, what they— in labour's side. well, what they seate— in labour's side. well, what they could do— in labour's side. well, what they could do ,_ in labour's side. well, what they could do , yes, is get a they could do, yes, is get a vote— they could do, yes, is get a vote that— they could do, yes, is get a vote that might— they could do, yes, is get a vote that might damage labour in

at— vote that might damage labour in at tte— vote that might damage labour in some of the inner— vote that might damage labour in some of the inner cities. but tat— some of the inner cities. but tat ._ some of the inner cities. but tat . sasaeet— some of the inner cities. but but i suspect the— some of the inner cities. but but i suspect the kind of seats in but i suspect the kind of seats it watch— but i suspect the kind of seats m wttet ttev— but i suspect the kind of seats in which they would get a good mamet— in which they would get a good mamet et— in which they would get a good number of votes— in which they would get a good number of votes are the kind of seats— number of votes are the kind of seats m— number of votes are the kind of seats in which— number of votes are the kind of seats in which labour's lead is atsatatetv— seats in which labour's lead is absolutely ginormous and many,— absolutely ginormous and finallyv eav— absolutely ginormous and finally, gav says she shouldn't be attewet— finally, gav says she shouldn't be allowed in— finally, gav says she shouldn't be allowed in politics again . be allowed in politics again. eat— be allowed in politics again. eat tats— be allowed in politics again. but this sort— be allowed in politics again. but this sort of— be allowed in politics again. but this sort of thing is rife in but this sort of thing is rife m tte— but this sort of thing is rife in the labour— but this sort of thing is rife in the labour party. well if you tetteve— in the labour party. well if you tetteve sm— in the labour party. well if you believe sir keir— in the labour party. well if you believe sir keir starmer that is what— believe sir keir starmer that is what we— believe sir keir starmer that is what we ts— believe sir keir starmer that is what he is trying— believe sir keir starmer that is what he is trying to stamp out. so what he is trying to stamp out. so twamta— what he is trying to stamp out. so twamta ,— what he is trying to stamp out. so rwanda , let's— what he is trying to stamp out. so rwanda , let's remind so rwanda, let's remind ourselves the- so rwanda, let's remind ourselves the home secretary weat— ourselves the home secretary went to— ourselves the home secretary went to rwanda _ ourselves the home secretary went to rwanda last month, but is went to rwanda last month, but ts aw— went to rwanda last month, but ts taemg— went to rwanda last month, but is now facing legal challenges . is now facing legal challenges. wave— is now facing legal challenges. wave a— is now facing legal challenges. wave a test. — is now facing legal challenges. have a look. have— is now facing legal challenges. have a look. have a listen to tats— have a look. have a listen to mm package— have a look. have a listen to this package on— have a look. have a listen to this package on rwanda and the seat— this package on rwanda and the court case from _ this package on rwanda and the court case from gb— this package on rwanda and the court case from gb news own mark wette— court case from gb news own mark wmte, tte— court case from gb news own mark wmte, the meme— court case from gb news own mark white, the home secretary's high matte— white, the home secretary's high matte vtstt— white, the home secretary's high profile visit to— white, the home secretary's high profile visit to rwanda just tast— profile visit to rwanda just tast mamm— profile visit to rwanda just last month was— profile visit to rwanda just last month was proof, if any were needed— last month was proof, if any were needed ,_ last month was proof, if any were needed , of— last month was proof, if any were needed , of just how vital were needed, of just how vital the were needed, of just how vital tte tw— were needed, of just how vital the uk government views the deal wttt— the uk government views the deal wttm tte— the uk government views the deal with the african— the uk government views the deal with the african nation in its ettevts— with the african nation in its ettevts te— with the african nation in its efforts to halt— with the african nation in its efforts to halt the small boats casts— efforts to halt the small boats evtsts . — efforts to halt the small boats evtsts. tt-s— efforts to halt the small boats crisis . it's over— efforts to halt the small boats crisis . it's over two- efforts to halt the small boats crisis . c : crisis. it's over two days suella braverman was shown housing developments , education

housing developments, education and training facilities and other support services is which the rwandan government says stand ready to host asylum seekers in the months ahead . but seekers in the months ahead. but of course all this stands or falls on arguments . british falls on arguments. british courts have still to reach a final decision on last december, the high court ruled the home office plans to send asylum seekers to the east african country where lawful this week it's the turn of the court of appeal to listen to the concern once again from asylum seekers and human rights groups who claim the policy is cruel and inhumane . when i sat down with inhumane. when i sat down with the home secretary in the rwandan capital kigali, she told me she was convinced her counterparts there would offer asylum seekers the chance of a good life and would respect their human rights. our partners here are ready to do. they're

ready to satiat— here are ready to do. they're ready to support out- “viii viii ”6&th viviv they're ready to support out the “viii mii ”6&th viviv they're ready to support out the uk “viii ii ”65th viviv they're ready to support out the uk in our ready to support out the uk in wett— ready to support out the uk in watt te— ready to support out the uk in our work to stop— ready to support out the uk in our work to stop the boats to amt— our work to stop the boats to amt ta— our work to stop the boats to amt it sat— our work to stop the boats to and fix our challenge of illegal mttvattem — and fix our challenge of illegal migration. we've— and fix our challenge of illegal migration. we've seen working wttm— migration. we've seen working wttm eat— migration. we've seen working with our friends— migration. we've seen working with our friends in rwanda , the with our friends in rwanda, the petite— with our friends in rwanda, the peepte wat— with our friends in rwanda, the people who come— with our friends in rwanda, the people who come here will be tesetttet— people who come here will be vesetttet ta — people who come here will be resettled to live _ people who come here will be resettled to live safe and secure life.— resettled to live safe and secure life. that's the humane, taae— secure life. that's the humane, humane approach— secure life. that's the humane, humane approach and that's the eampasstamate— humane approach and that's the compassionate approach. it's now mam— compassionate approach. it's now team a— compassionate approach. it's now team a vea— compassionate approach. it's now more than a year since former ttme— more than a year since former prime minister— more than a year since former prime minister boris johnson aset— prime minister boris johnson aset a— prime minister boris johnson aset a mat— prime minister boris johnson used a visit to— prime minister boris johnson used a visit to kent to announce the twamta— used a visit to kent to announce the rwanda policy. vi vim i“viv: the rwanda policy. he claimed the rwanda policy. he claimed the threat that asylum seekers would end up in africa rather than the uk would hold the key to breaking the model of the people smugglers who sent more than 4000 5000 migrants across the channel last year. but efforts to send the first planeload of asylum seekers to rwanda were halted by last minute intervention by a judge in the european court of human rights . the illegal

in the european court of human rights. the illegal migration bill currently working its way through parliament, will give british judges more authority to disregard hard rulings made in strasbourg . but of course, all strasbourg. but of course, all that depends on the outcome of this week's court of appeal decision . and even if those decision. and even if those judges find in favour of the uk government tonight, it's more than likely this whole issue could end up in the supreme court with a final ruling. still many months away. mark white gb news well, it was a year ago , news well, it was a year ago, exactly a year ago, that boris johnson was there at lydd airport, making all these promises. the plan was promises. the rwanda plan was amteasmet— promises. the rwanda plan was unleashed rishi_ the rwanda plan was unleashed rishi sunak now says tee-s— unleashed rishi sunak now says me-s going— unleashed rishi sunak now says me-s going te— unleashed rishi sunak now says me-s going to step— unleashed rishi sunak now says he's going to stop the boats. watt— he's going to stop the boats. watt wette— he's going to stop the boats. mark white, what your report teete— mark white, what your report there ts— mark white, what your report there is suggesting is endless tetat— there is suggesting is endless legal actions.— there is suggesting is endless legal actions. yeah, i mean , it legal actions. yeah, i mean, it teattv— legal actions. yeah, i mean, it really epitomises_ legal actions. yeah, i mean, it really epitomises everything mat— really epitomises everything ttattte— really epitomises everything that the government is up atamst— that the government is up agamst m— that the government is up against in this— that the government is up against in this small boat at— against in this small boat crisis. at every- against in this small boat crisis. p ”g ii against in this small boat- crisis. at every move where they try to come up with a solution

or a part solution and they're met with countless legal challenges. we've seen it, of course, over the rwanda plan. we've seen it with plans to have more purpose built, larger scale accommodation centres for those who are in this country to get away from the overreliance on hotels . at every turn, there are hotels. at every turn, there are those as part of this huge industry who are willing to go to the courts to try to challenge an industry . it is, challenge an industry. it is, some would say it's a i: “viiticiv it is, some would say it's a very evmeat— some would say it's a very cynical word. _ some would say it's a very cynical word. it- some would say it's a very cynical word. c : cynical word. it is an industry. i'm telling you, nigel, having followed this story for many years, right from the point that where those that want to come to the out the criminal the uk seek out the criminal gangs, those criminal gangs all of the way up their school these people in how best to avoid the authorities , what to do when authorities, what to do when they get to the northwest coast of france . it's with a view to of france. it's with a view to coming over to the uk, throwing away the passports and the mobile phones that you and i have witnessed out in these boats, in the channels. and then

it's into the hands of the refugee charities, the human rights groups and the lawyers who are there to take on their part of this industrial process , which is offering, as of course, they would, being lawyers and being human rights groups, all of the help and assist once they come to these people to ensure that they're bid to stay here in the uk as an asylum seeker is ultimately accepted. and all of this , many accepted. and all of this, many of them are. and all of this in te— of them are. and all of this in the tast— of them are. and all of this in the last couple— of them are. and all of this in the last couple of— ii and all of this in the last couple of days we've teamet— the last couple of days we've learned that— the last couple of days we've learned that a— the last couple of days we've learned that a 17— the last couple of days we've learned that a 17 year old was aetaattv— learned that a 17 year old was aetaattv az— learned that a 17 year old was actually 42. and— learned that a 17 year old was actually 42. and we also learn that— actually 42. and we also learn that even— actually 42. and we also learn that tt— actually 42. and we also learn that even if the _ actually 42. and we also learn that even if the government wins this that even if the government wins tms amt— that even if the government wins tms amt wms— that even if the government wins this and wins at— that even if the government wins this and wins at the supreme team— this and wins at the supreme mom, wmem— this and wins at the supreme court, which they may well for all court, which they may well for at ._ court, which they may well for at . mew— court, which they may well for all i know that— court, which they may well for all i know that individual teame— all i know that individual people appealing will also get tetat— people appealing will also get tetat att— people appealing will also get tegat att. ._ people appealing will also get legal aid. i mean, it seems to be me— legal aid. i mean, it seems to be me eat— legal aid. i mean, it seems to be me eat to— legal aid. i mean, it seems to be no end to this.— legal aid. i mean, it seems to be no end to this. also a saggesttam— be no end to this. also a suggestion, mark, that the young mttams— suggestion, mark, that the young mttams mat— suggestion, mark, that the young indians that are— suggestion, mark, that the young indians that are coming are coming— indians that are coming are coming because— indians that are coming are coming because they want to apply— coming because they want to apply-asylum— coming because they want to apply asylum, on apply for asylum, get on amvetsttv— apply for asylum, get on university courses and pay half the amam—

university courses and pay half the amount if— university courses and pay half the amount if they're here that they— the amount if they're here that they waatt— the amount if they're here that they waatt as— the amount if they're here that they would as foreign nationals. i they would as foreign nationals. . meam— they would as foreign nationals. . tt— they would as foreign nationals. i mean, it seems— they would as foreign nationals. i mean, it seems whatever the government— i mean, it seems whatever the government tries— i mean, it seems whatever the government tries to do without doing— government tries to do without doing something— government tries to do without doing something thing that apsets— doing something thing that apsets tte— doing something thing that upsets the international eemmamtw— upsets the international community, namely just sending petite— community, namely just sending peepte tast— community, namely just sending peepte task to— community, namely just sending people back to france, we're not going— people back to france, we're not going to— people back to france, we're not going to sawe— people back to france, we're not going to solve this,— people back to france, we're not going to solve this, are we? mat.— going to solve this, are we? veat. ._ going to solve this, are we? veat. . mem— going to solve this, are we? yeah, i mean, they- going to solve this, are we? yeah, i mean, they are- going to solve this, are we? yeah, i mean, they are tied in knots, nigel, by the process at every turn. and you know, you ask yourself, does it require then from the government get a commitment and a backbone , if commitment and a backbone, if you like to say no more, we have to take a very decisive, decisive decision, which may mean that more often we are ignonng mean that more often we are ignoring rules coming from strasbourg, but they're very reluctant to do that because they're rightly proud of the fact that we, you know , that we fact that we, you know, that we wrote the rules 75 years ago. but actually on the echr- but actually on the echr thing, you but actually on the echr thing, vea mew,— but actually on the echr thing, vaa mew, amt— but actually on the echr thing, you know, and we've pushed hard on tats— you know, and we've pushed hard am tms program — you know, and we've pushed hard on this program and others on tats— on this program and others on tms steamer— on this program and others on this channel and— on this program and others on this channel and tory, some tory rats— this channel and tory, some tory tars met— this channel and tory, some tory tars met marv— this channel and tory, some tory mps, not many agree, but aetaattv— mps, not many agree, but actually the— mps, not many agree, but actually the government seems happy— actually the government seems maggv wttt— actually the government seems maggv wttm tte— actually the government seems happy with the echr . as you say, happy with the echr. as you say,

they— happy with the echr. as you say, they wee— happy with the echr. as you say, they were actually— happy with the echr. as you say, they were actually using echr teat— they were actually using echr tctt rates— they were actually using echr echr rules against braintree ttstrtet— echr rules against braintree district councils— echr rules against braintree district councils over weatherfield. i mean , we're weatherfield. i mean, we're eaagtt— weatherfield. i mean, we're eaagtt m— weatherfield. i mean, we're eaagmt m a— weatherfield. i mean, we're caught in a complete impasse mere. — caught in a complete impasse mere. wear.— caught in a complete impasse here. yeah, and— caught in a complete impasse here. yeah, and i— caught in a complete impasse here. / m“v: here. yeah, and i think from the government's point of view, what they are anxious to show at the moment is at least momentum that they are trying to do things, trying to come up with what they see as at least partial solutions to stopping the small boats. and that's why we're seeing, you know, the move towards these more larger scale accommodation centres. the rwanda policy arnie more agreements and deals with france on that side of the channel, the better cooperation with law enforcement. they want to show that they're doing something. they want to portray labour law as not having much of a plan except for this mantra that they keep repeating, which is we need to give more money to the national crime agency to have better law enforcement . but to better law enforcement. but to better law enforcement. but to be fair to the government, better law enforcement. but to be fair to the government , they be fair to the government, they have given more money to the

national crime agency. it's cooperating much more it cooperating much more than it ever did. hundreds of millions more france and nothing more to france and nothing changes for 97 cross on saturday in what was a relatively small window. so in the whether the steamer-s— window. so in the whether the channel's been— : so in the whether the channel's been rough for week arter— channel's been rough for week atter weev— channel's been rough for week after week after— channel's been rough for week after week after week do you agree — after week after week do you agree wttm— after week after week do you agree wttm me— after week after week do you agree with me mark that come game— agree with me mark that come game raw— agree with me mark that come game raw tag— agree with me mark that come june july big high pressure system— june july big high pressure svstem stts— june july big high pressure system sits over the channel for a starte— system sits over the channel for a couple lweeks?_ system sits over the channel for a couple weeks? we're going a couple of weeks? we're going to te— a couple of weeks? we're going to be overwhelmed, aren't we? tte— to be overwhelmed, aren't we? the government— to be overwhelmed, aren't we? the government has been merettttv— the government has been incredibly lucky that the weather— incredibly lucky that the weather has— incredibly lucky that the weather has been so atrocious in the creamer— weather has been so atrocious in the channel over— weather has been so atrocious in the channel over the last few mamas.— the channel over the last few months. — the channel over the last few months. sa— the channel over the last few months. so we're- the channel over the last few months. i months. so we're actually probably a bit less than we were at same period last year. at the same period last year. 5500 people have still crossed the channel despite those weather conditions . you're weather conditions. you're right, the second we get to that flat calm period where we've got great conditions, very , very great conditions, very, very light winds in the channel, they'll be coming across and we'll be hitting 800 to 1000 most days easily. and then exactly as you say , what we exactly as you say, what we witnessed in the height of summer last year with manston

being absolutely overwhelmed , it being absolutely overwhelmed, it was gridlock there. they couldn't get the emergency hotel accommodation in quickly enough to funnel people out into . so to funnel people out into. so they were stuck in manston for weeks at a time. mark white, tmamt— weeks at a time. mark white, tmamt vaa. — weeks at a time. mark white, thank you. we're— c mark white, thank you. we're going to need a great— thank you. we're going to need a great tag— thank you. we're going to need a new great big barge. maybe two great— new great big barge. maybe two great tag— new great big barge. maybe two great ttg targes— new great big barge. maybe two great big barges or an zaf camp or meat— great big barges or an zaf camp or ateat ttve— great big barges or an zaf camp or about five hotels every stage— or about five hotels every stmgte taw— or about five hotels every stmgte tav. rt— or about five hotels every single day. if this problem tasm-t— single day. if this problem hasn't come— single day. if this problem hasn't come to— single day. if this problem hasn't come to your neighbourhood , i promise you neighbourhood, i promise you it's neighbourhood, i promise you is eammg— neighbourhood, i promise you tt-s eammg verv— neighbourhood, i promise you it's coming very soon. in a mem— it's coming very soon. in a mmem tte— it's coming very soon. in a moment, the war in sudan . do you moment, the war in sudan. do you mew— moment, the war in sudan. do you know whats— moment, the war in sudan. do you know what's really— moment, the war in sudan. do you know what's really going on? and do know what's really going on? and to vea— know what's really going on? and to vea mew— know what's really going on? and do you know what's— know what's really going on? and do you know what's happening? wrat— do you know what's happening? wtat ts— do you know what's happening? wtat ts tte— do you know what's happening? what is the plight of the ertttsm— what is the plight of the british people? there richard temp— british people? there richard temp-me- british people? there richard temp-me m- british people? there richard kemp me in just a

this. join us here on gb news, the people's . channel now, a the people's. channel now, a couple of years ago, the fall of kabul couple of years ago, the fall of kabul, we understood that the taliban, who we'd fought for 20 years, had taken back the city and the country. it was easy to

understand, but i'll have a bet that many of you watching, listening to this have been heanng listening to this have been hearing about this outbreak of war in sudan over the last couple of days. trapped british nationals , many other nationals, many other nationalities there to . and i nationalities there to. and i wonder whether you've got an earthly clue as to who is fighting whom . i suspect in most fighting whom. i suspect in most cases not. don't be embarrassed about it, which is why we've got colonel richard kemp on telegraph columnist and former british commander in afghanistan , a man who knows about this subject . now, obviously, subject. now, obviously, richard, a historically sudan british colony, lord kitchener of khartoum, all of those things. but what is actually happening? please who's who's on what side ? and i think kitchener what side? and i think kitchener would find it hard to recognise what's going on now. but essentially the— essentially the government of satan— essentially the government of satam ,— essentially the government of satam , tte— essentially the government of sudan , the temporary government sudan, the temporary government of sudan, the temporary government et satan— sudan, the temporary government at satam ts— sudan, the temporary government of sudan, is headed by general tera— of sudan, is headed by general teram wte— of sudan, is headed by general teram wte ts— of sudan, is headed by general doran, who is also— of sudan, is headed by general doran, who is also the chief of start— doran, who is also the chief of statt et— doran, who is also the chief of statt et tte— doran, who is also the chief of staff of the armed— doran, who is also the chief of staff of the armed forces and his

staff of the armed forces and tts ttmt— staff of the armed forces and tts ttmt et— staff of the armed forces and his kind of henchman was a guy eattet— his kind of henchman was a guy called hemetti_ his kind of henchman was a guy called hemetti . _ his kind of henchman was a guy called hemetti . ' “v: his kind of henchman was a guy called hemetti . “v: called hemetti. and hemetti also commanded a kind of militia force, part of part of the government as well, called the rapid support forces. government as well, called the rapid support forces . and rapid support forces. and hemetti has turned on doran, and he's used his significant rapid support forces to attempt to bnng support forces to attempt to bring down doran and to take over the government himself. and that's that fighting has now been going on for about a week between those two rival factions within sudan. and it's worth noting , by the way, that noting, by the way, that supporters of both of these two generals is the wagner group , generals is the wagner group, the russian wagner group, which has been so active in ukraine, which is backing probably backing a bit more the rebels than they were backing the chief of staff, the government forces. but they've got their murky handsin but they've got their murky hands in there as well . okay. so hands in there as well. okay. so it's a split , but effectively- it's a split, but effectively wtttm— it's a split, but effectively wttttm tte— it's a split, but effectively within the military and within the government— within the military and within the government in sudan , the the government in sudan, the tast— the government in sudan, the tast ttgare— the government in sudan, the tast ttgare r— the government in sudan, the last figure i saw— the government in sudan, the last figure i saw was about 400 teette— last figure i saw was about 400 teette ttttet— last figure i saw was about 400 people killed. so— last figure i saw was about 400 people killed. so far. would that—

people killed. so far. would ttat seamt— people killed. so far. would that sound right to you ? / that sound right to you? yeah, i ttmt— that sound right to you? yeah, i ttmt tretattv— that sound right to you? yeah, i think probably more than that's probably the figure we're getting. but i would guess it'll be quite a bit more than that and probably a huge number more wounded as well. yeah. and the remartatte— wounded as well. yeah. and the remarkable thing— “viviv: yeah. and the remarkable thing looking at “v:viv: yeah. and the remarkable thing looking at all of remarkable thing looking at all et ttts— remarkable thing looking at all et ttts ts— remarkable thing looking at all of this is that— remarkable thing looking at all of this is that other nationalities, the french, the data— nationalities, the french, the data tte — nationalities, the french, the dutch, the italians , the dutch, the italians, the stamsm — dutch, the italians, the spanish, they've managed to ergamse— spanish, they've managed to ergamtse atr— spanish, they've managed to organise air transport. yeah, get— organise air transport. yeah, get ea— organise air transport. yeah, we've got our diplomats and met— we've got our diplomats and their families— we've got our diplomats and their families out. but those etter— their families out. but those other european— their families out. but those other european countries have mamaget— other european countries have mamaget te— other european countries have mamaget te tw— other european countries have managed to fly up many hundreds of managed to fly up many hundreds et ttetr— managed to fly up many hundreds et ttetr ewm— managed to fly up many hundreds of their own nationals stuck there— of their own nationals stuck ttere .— of their own nationals stuck ttere . te— of their own nationals stuck ttere . re mv— of their own nationals stuck there . to my knowledge, up until there. to my knowledge, up until vestertav— there. to my knowledge, up until vestertav ,— there. to my knowledge, up until vestertav , mew— there. to my knowledge, up until yesterday , they, the british yesterday, they, the british government _ yesterday, they, the british government hadn't even community tetatet— government hadn't even community tetatet wttt— government hadn't even community debated with them— government hadn't even community debated with them how many brits do debated with them how many brits te vea— debated with them how many brits te vea ttmt— debated with them how many brits do you think are— debated with them how many brits do you think are trapped there ? do you think are trapped there? wett— do you think are trapped there? wet. tte— do you think are trapped there? well, the figures— do you think are trapped there? well, the figures vary— do you think are trapped there? well, the figures vary .- do you think are trapped there? well, the figures vary. between about 2004 thousand british, which is a fraction of the about 16 to 18,000 americans that are thought to be trapped there and have been told by their president that no chance of them being got out. but i don't think we should be overcritical of the government here, because i've no doubt whatsoever that they're

making the efforts they can making the best efforts they can to attempt some kind of rescue operation for these citizens that are remaining. it's very, very difficult as it, of course, difficult for other countries who have had maybe a bit more success early on because, you know, the people are scattered across khartoum . they're across khartoum. they're scattered across other parts of the country . internet the country. internet communications are out for most of the time. it's hard to put to keep tabs on where people are and who they are. so it's a hugely complicated operation. it could be attempted, but of course, the government will have to make a judgement as to how dangerous it's going to be. both for the hostages and also for the troops . as the large number the troops. as the large number of troops that would be involved. now we have got sas forces there who of course forces out there who of course were involved in helping to get out british diplomats and out the british diplomats and their out. what out the british diplomats and their out . what is the their families out. what is the eemtmamg— their families out. what is the continuing role— their families out. what is the continuing role of— their families out. what is the continuing role of the- i c what is the continuing role of the sas in satam— continuing role of the sas in tatam amt— continuing role of the sas in sudan? and don't they don't they tat— sudan? and don't they don't they find themselves— sudan? and don't they don't they find themselves in— sudan? and don't they don't they find themselves in a very ttttteatt— find themselves in a very difficult, dangerous position ? difficult, dangerous position? wett— difficult, dangerous position?

wet. tt-s— difficult, dangerous position? well, it's what— difficult, dangerous position? well, it's what the— difficult, dangerous position? well, it's what the sas- difficult, dangerous position? well, it's what the sas has fought to overcome difficulties and to face danger. and they do it very, very competently in my experience. yes of course, it's a tough mission for them, what they'll be doing. of course, now now is two things, i think. one is to be reconnoitring to establish how best to carry out a rescue, to try and identify where as many people are as they can. and at the same time to be poised if british citizens are taken hostage, for example, by one faction or the other , one faction or the other, possibility to be poised to carry out a surgical operation to rescue them. but that's basically they're the eyes and ears on the ground of the british armed forces that might then launch a bigger scale operation. richard kemp, thank you for coming on, discussing sudan with us. i've no doubt wett— sudan with us. i've no doubt we-tt tatt— sudan with us. i've no doubt we'll talk again— sudan with us. i've no doubt we'll talk again over- : i've no doubt we'll talk again over the course of we'll talk again over the course et tte— we'll talk again over the course et the meat— we'll talk again over the course of the next few— we'll talk again over the course of the next few days. many thanks— of the next few days. many thanks indeed.— of the next few days. many thanks indeed. and of course, many— thanks indeed. and of course, mamv et— thanks indeed. and of course, many et as— thanks indeed. and of course, many of us remember the sas raid on many of us remember the sas raid em tte— many of us remember the sas raid em tte ramam— many of us remember the sas raid on the iranian embassy in temtem— on the iranian embassy in temtem. rt— on the iranian embassy in london. it was— on the iranian embassy in london. it was quite extraordinary. now what the tarage—

extraordinary. now what the tarage-reattv- extraordinary. now what the farage - really over farage moment really came over the farage moment really came over tte—tmg- farage moment really came over tte—tmg tas- the weekend, the king has attemtet— the weekend, the king has appointed two— the weekend, the king has appointed two new members of the erter— appointed two new members of the erter et— appointed two new members of the erter et tte— appointed two new members of the order of the garter. _ appointed two new members of the order of the garter. it is well tetmt— order of the garter. it is well tettmt tte— order of the garter. it is well behind the victoria cross , i behind the victoria cross, i sattese— behind the victoria cross, i sattese trettv— behind the victoria cross, i suppose pretty much the biggest awart— suppose pretty much the biggest awart ttat— suppose pretty much the biggest award that the— suppose pretty much the biggest award that the king can give out and award that the king can give out amt ms— award that the king can give out and his choices— award that the king can give out and his choices ?_ award that the king can give out and his choices ? well, one is and his choices? well, one is tert— and his choices? well, one is tert tatter— and his choices? well, one is tert rattem .— and his choices? well, one is lord patton . now, of course, lord patton. now, of course, temg— lord patton. now, of course, temg ttme— lord patton. now, of course, long time conservative member of tartamemt— long time conservative member of parliament, governor , last parliament, governor, last eevemeret— parliament, governor, last governor of hong kong, and then an tu— governor of hong kong, and then an eu commissioner. well, i sattese— an eu commissioner. well, i sattese te-s— an eu commissioner. well, i suppose he's had a long career in suppose he's had a long career is tatte— suppose he's had a long career is tattte tte— suppose he's had a long career in public life. the— suppose he's had a long career in public life. the other baroness, ashton, cathy ashton, temg— baroness, ashton, cathy ashton, temg ttme— baroness, ashton, cathy ashton, long time operative within the eamtatgm— long time operative within the eamtatgm ter— long time operative within the campaign for nuclear disarmament, who married well, marrtet— disarmament, who married well, marrtet a— disarmament, who married well, marrtet a wet— disarmament, who married well, married a well known pollster . married a well known pollster. amt— married a well known pollster. amt tmteet— married a well known pollster. and indeed, at— married a well known pollster. and indeed, at one point labour temer— and indeed, at one point labour temer wte— and indeed, at one point labour temer wte ,— and indeed, at one point labour donor who , for— and indeed, at one point labour donor who , for reasons that donor who, for reasons that tetattv— donor who, for reasons that totally baffled _ donor who, for reasons that totally baffled me at the time, ttmstet— totally baffled me at the time, ttmtstet at— totally baffled me at the time, finished up as— totally baffled me at the time, finished up as a— totally baffled me at the time, finished up as a european commissioner.— finished up as a european commissioner. she had, as i said on commissioner. she had, as i said em ter— commissioner. she had, as i said em he first— commissioner. she had, as i said on her first day,— commissioner. she had, as i said on her first day, risen without trae — on her first day, risen without trae tat— on her first day, risen without trace. but for— on her first day, risen without trace. but for the _ on her first day, risen without trace. but for the king's first twe— trace. but for the king's first two appointments, both to be termer— two appointments, both to be former european— two appointments, both to be

former european commissioner as wet.— former european commissioner as wet. we— former european commissioner as wet. we tavem-t— former european commissioner as well. we haven't had more than a eeatte— well. we haven't had more than a eeatte et— well. we haven't had more than a couple of dozen— well. we haven't had more than a couple of dozen over— well. we haven't had more than a couple of dozen over the last twe— couple of dozen over the last twe teeates. — couple of dozen over the last two decades. seems remarkable . two decades. seems remarkable. amt— two decades. seems remarkable. amt att— two decades. seems remarkable. amt att et— two decades. seems remarkable. and all of that— two decades. seems remarkable. and all of that as— two decades. seems remarkable. and all of that as we learn that tettewmg— and all of that as we learn that following raab's_ and all of that as we learn that following raab's resignation in teremg— following raab's resignation in teremg eat,— following raab's resignation in forcing out, call— following raab's resignation in forcing out, call it what you wit— forcing out, call it what you wttt att— forcing out, call it what you will, all that— forcing out, call it what you will, all that now in the catmet— will, all that now in the cabinet that— will, all that now in the cabinet that there are 21 remainer ers— cabinet that there are 21 remainer ers and eight leavers. ves— remainer ers and eight leavers. ves ves.— remainer ers and eight leavers. yes yes tte— remainer ers and eight leavers. yes yes. the establishment is tast— yes yes. the establishment is taet ttrmtw— yes yes. the establishment is back firmly, completely and tetattv— back firmly, completely and tetattv m— back firmly, completely and totally in charge . in a moment, totally in charge. in a moment, we tave— totally in charge. in a moment, we have various— totally in charge. in a moment, we have various countries meetmg— we have various countries meettmg tetav— we have various countries meeting today to discuss turning mest— meeting today to discuss turning mest, tt— meeting today to discuss turning mest, tt weatt— meeting today to discuss turning most, it would seem, of the term— most, it would seem, of the term sea— most, it would seem, of the north sea into— most, it would seem, of the north sea into a— most, it would seem, of the north sea into a wind farm. does that— north sea into a wind farm. does ttat mate— north sea into a wind farm. does that make sense— north sea into a wind farm. does that make sense ._

well what a busy few days. it's teem— well what a busy few days. it's teem a— well what a busy few days. it's been a plethora— well what a busy few days. it's been a plethora of— well what a busy few days. it's been a plethora of stories and ttat— been a plethora of stories and one that seems— been a plethora of stories and one that seems to— been a plethora of stories and one that seems to have had very ttttte— one that seems to have had very little attention,— one that seems to have had very little attention, but— one that seems to have had very little attention, but i think is

werttv— little attention, but i think is werttv et— little attention, but i think is worthy of debate is that grant states— worthy of debate is that grant states ts— worthy of debate is that grant states ts m— worthy of debate is that grant shapps is in ostend today and yes,— shapps is in ostend today and ves te-s— shapps is in ostend today and yesv te-s ttere— shapps is in ostend today and yes, he's there with representatives from belgium, germany,— representatives from belgium, germany, france— representatives from belgium, germany, france , norway, the germany, france, norway, the netherlands,— germany, france, norway, the netherlands, denmark, ireland and netherlands, denmark, ireland amt ter— netherlands, denmark, ireland amt ter seme— netherlands, denmark, ireland and for some reason land locked tavemtearg— and for some reason land locked luxembourg. that— and for some reason land locked luxembourg. that one is a little bit luxembourg. that one is a little ttt tevemt— luxembourg. that one is a little ttt tevemt me— luxembourg. that one is a little bit beyond me, but never mind. mew-re— bit beyond me, but never mind. ttev-re ttere— bit beyond me, but never mind. they're there to— bit beyond me, but never mind. they're there to discuss the term— they're there to discuss the term sea— they're there to discuss the north sea and— they're there to discuss the north sea and their ambition is to north sea and their ambition is te tave— north sea and their ambition is te have a— north sea and their ambition is te have a tear— north sea and their ambition is to have a four fold— north sea and their ambition is to have a four fold increase in wmt— to have a four fold increase in wtmt tewer— to have a four fold increase in wtmt tewer m— to have a four fold increase in wind power in the— to have a four fold increase in wind power in the next five wears— wind power in the next five years amt— wind power in the next five years amt a— wind power in the next five years and a ten— wind power in the next five years and a ten fold increase in eteetrtettv— years and a ten fold increase in electricity generation by wind tartmes— electricity generation by wind tarttmes tw— electricity generation by wind turbines by 2050 from massive tartme— turbines by 2050 from massive turbine islands— turbines by 2050 from massive turbine islands that will be tatt— turbine islands that will be tattt eat— turbine islands that will be built out in— turbine islands that will be built out in the— turbine islands that will be built out in the north sea. some semettmg— built out in the north sea. some semetttmg em— built out in the north sea. some something on this— built out in the north sea. some something on this scale that is temg— something on this scale that is being considered— something on this scale that is being considered the potential environmental— being considered the potential environmental damage that it wit— environmental damage that it wttt te— environmental damage that it wttt te, tte— environmental damage that it will do, the overreliance , as it will do, the overreliance, as it te— will do, the overreliance, as it seems to me, on— will do, the overreliance, as it seems to me, on intermittent emergw— seems to me, on intermittent emergv, tees— seems to me, on intermittent energy, does this— seems to me, on intermittent energy, does this actually make amt wtv— energy, does this actually make sense and why is— energy, does this actually make sense and why is there so little tetatet— sense and why is there so little debate? laurie— sense and why is there so little debate? laurie laban langton is an environmental— debate? laurie laban langton is an environmental policy researcher and joins me live. taarte— researcher and joins me live. taarte, ts— researcher and joins me live. taarte, ts tt— researcher and joins me live.

laurie, is it because there's tast— laurie, is it because there's tast sett— laurie, is it because there's tast sert et— laurie, is it because there's just sort of like— laurie, is it because there's just sort of like a sort of tetat— just sort of like a sort of total consensus in media and tetttes— total consensus in media and tettttes ttat— total consensus in media and politics that this— total consensus in media and politics that this is the way to taette — politics that this is the way to tackle climate— politics that this is the way to tackle climate change? is that why— tackle climate change? is that wtv mere-s— tackle climate change? is that wtv ttere-s se— tackle climate change? is that why there's so little debate ateat— why there's so little debate ateat wtat— why there's so little debate about what i— why there's so little debate about what i think in ostend is about what i think in ostend is a verv— about what i think in ostend is a very significant— about what i think in ostend is a very significant get together of a very significant get together et at— a very significant get together et at ttese— a very significant get together of all these governments ? well of all these governments? well wmt— of all these governments? well wtmt tewer— of all these governments? well wtmt tewer ts— of all these governments? well wind power is one— of all these governments? well wind power is one of a whole mix of wind power is one of a whole mix et tttteremt— wind power is one of a whole mix of different ways— wind power is one of a whole mix of different ways of— wind power is one of a whole mix of different ways of generating eteetrtettv— of different ways of generating electricity that _ of different ways of generating electricity that will help us tee— electricity that will help us become less _ electricity that will help us become less dependent on russian gas amt— become less dependent on russian gas amt tte— become less dependent on russian gas and the volatile— become less dependent on russian gas and the volatile fossil fuel markets— gas and the volatile fossil fuel markets that— gas and the volatile fossil fuel markets that we've seen over the tast— markets that we've seen over the tast eeatte — markets that we've seen over the tast eeatte et— markets that we've seen over the last couple of years. so i think mere-s— last couple of years. so i think there's a consensus that you need a range of technologies to help generate that electricity and ultimately mean that we're not dependent on high fossil fuel prices like we have been recently. i fuel prices like we have been recently . i get that, laurie. recently. i get that, laurie. tat— recently. i get that, laurie. tat saretv— recently. i get that, laurie. but surely the _ iivi.vi i get that, laurie. but surely the point is iivi.vi“ym i get that, laurie. but surely the point is the iivi.vi“my i get that, laurie. but surely the point is the more retamt— but surely the point is the more rettamt vea— but surely the point is the more reliant you become on north sea wmt— reliant you become on north sea wtmt emergw— reliant you become on north sea wtmt emergv, tt— reliant you become on north sea wind energy, if you— reliant you become on north sea wind energy, if you get stuck wttt— wind energy, if you get stuck wttt a— wind energy, if you get stuck wttt a ttg— wind energy, if you get stuck with a big anticyclone in tetraarw— with a big anticyclone in februaryv vea— with a big anticyclone in february, you actually then in etteet— february, you actually then in effect become _ february, you actually then in effect become even more reliant on effect become even more reliant em gas— effect become even more reliant em gas er— effect become even more reliant on gas or something else to back

it on gas or something else to back t at— on gas or something else to back t at . — on gas or something else to back t at . se— on gas or something else to back t at . se me— on gas or something else to back t at. so et— on gas or something else to back it up. so one of the— on gas or something else to back it up. so one of the reasons why there are so many countries represented today is because the they're trying to create a grid that works across all of europe. this is already largely there. the uk, for example, is hang on, it's connected to europe already and we need those connections. sometimes because we transfer electricity over to europe and we make money from it and sometimes we have to have electricity transferred over to us. it's a really useful mechanism that's got nothing to do with conspiracy theories. it's just good economic sense and good for energy security . and good for energy security. this will help with that as well . well, you know, you can say mat,— . well, you know, you can say that tat— . well, you know, you can say that tat r— . well, you know, you can say that, but i was— . well, you know, you can say that, but i was in— well, you know, you can say that, but i was in the european rartamemt— that, but i was in the european rartamemt at— that, but i was in the european parliament up until a couple of years— parliament up until a couple of years age,— parliament up until a couple of years ago,-believe- parliament up until a couple of years ago, believe you me, years ago, and believe you me, a emergv— years ago, and believe you me, a common energy policy was a big eu common energy policy was a big tu -wew— common energy policy was a big tu-wew tet-s— common energy policy was a big eu - now let's talk- common energy policy was a big eu now let's talk about eu goal. now let's talk about tte— eu goal. now let's talk about the—were- eu goal. now let's talk abouti the—we're saying the environment. we're saying mat,— the environment. we're saying ttat,-,— the environment. we're saying ttat,-, weve- the environment. we're saying that, , we've talked that, you know, we've talked ateat—test- that, you know, we've talked. about—cost before. about subsidy and cost before. i went— about subsidy and cost before. i went ge— about subsidy and cost before. i went ge tate— about subsidy and cost before. i won't go into that— about subsidy and cost before. i won't go into that today . let's won't go into that today. let's tatt— won't go into that today. let's tatt ateat— won't go into that today. let's talk about the _ won't go into that today. let's talk about the environment. you mew,— talk about the environment. you mew—ts- talk about the environment. you mew—ts geetl know, we're told this is good teaase— know, we're told this is good tease tt-s— know, we're told this is good because it's zero— know, we're told this is good because it's zero carbon energy

. we— because it's zero carbon energy . we eeatt— because it's zero carbon energy . we eeatt argae— because it's zero carbon energy . we could argue the same for maetear tat— . we could argue the same for nuclear, but let's— . we could argue the same for nuclear, but let's stick on this . rt— nuclear, but let's stick on this . a statv— nuclear, but let's stick on this . a statv m— nuclear, but let's stick on this . a study in germany has shown that— . a study in germany has shown ttat aeamt— . a study in germany has shown that around the— . a study in germany has shown that around the wind farms off the german— that around the wind farms off the german and— that around the wind farms off the german and dutch coasts, tast— the german and dutch coasts, tast ee— the german and dutch coasts, tast ttt— the german and dutch coasts, just one bird species is the merttem— just one bird species is the northern diver— just one bird species is the northern diver has declined aeamt— northern diver has declined aeamt tte— northern diver has declined around the wind farms by 95. and even more miles— around the wind farms by 95. and even more miles away from the mat— even more miles away from the wtmt tarms— even more miles away from the wind farms. the— even more miles away from the wind farms. the stocks are 50% tewm— wind farms. the stocks are 50% tewm. we-ve— wind farms. the stocks are 50% down. we've seen— wind farms. the stocks are 50% down. we've seen in america, you mew— down. we've seen in america, you knew ,— down. we've seen in america, you knew , wmt— down. we've seen in america, you know , wind farms— down. we've seen in america, you know , wind farms that have know, wind farms that have ttttet — know, wind farms that have killed over— know, wind farms that have killed over the _ know, wind farms that have killed over the course of a veere— killed over the course of a year, over a thousand birds of preve— year, over a thousand birds of prev, metatmg— year, over a thousand birds of prey, including bald eagles. the fact prey, including bald eagles. the taet ts— prey, including bald eagles. the taet ts ttese— prey, including bald eagles. the fact is, these things kill a tage— fact is, these things kill a huge amount— fact is, these things kill a huge amount of birds and on the seatet— huge amount of birds and on the seatet, tte— huge amount of birds and on the seabed, the effect— huge amount of birds and on the seabed, the effect they have on the seatet— seabed, the effect they have on the seabed is— seabed, the effect they have on the seabed is not— seabed, the effect they have on the seabed is not positive for tte— the seabed is not positive for the warme— the seabed is not positive for the marine ecosystem either. is ttere— the marine ecosystem either. is ttere amv— the marine ecosystem either. is ttere amv reat— the marine ecosystem either. is there any real debate on these ttmgs— there any real debate on these tttmgs e — there any real debate on these things ? they're— there any real debate on these things ? “viy ii i things? they're actually the latest science on the actual physical impacts on marine life and life at sea aren't settled yet. there's also a lot of evidence that shows that a lot of marine life can build

structures, these reefs and so on around the sort of physical cage casing of the wind turbine as it touches down into the sea floor. more research needs to be done to look at how the benefits that i just described would also balance with the potential impacts as well, particularly for wind turbines on the scale that they're looking to build. but you know, we got to set this against the very well known impact on marine life of massive oil spills that regularly happen . and of course, the increasingly negative impact of rising temperatures in the oceans on marine life . well, oceans on marine life. well, well, hang on. i mean,- i viv“ c well, well, hang on. i mean, you know, if well, hang on. i mean, you know, tt sea— well, hang on. i mean, you know, if sea temperatures— well, hang on. i mean, you know, if sea temperatures rise, all it means is that— if sea temperatures rise, all it means is that species change ttetr— means is that species change ttetr ramge— means is that species change their range and— means is that species change their range and there's some evttemee— their range and there's some evttemee et— their range and there's some evidence of that— their range and there's some evidence of that actually. you mew,— evidence of that actually. you know, mackerel— evidence of that actually. you know, mackerel stocks becomes tartter— know, mackerel stocks becomes tartter merm— know, mackerel stocks becomes further north, etcetera. but but but further north, etcetera. but but tat tatt— further north, etcetera. but but tat taet te— further north, etcetera. but but but back to the— further north, etcetera. but but but back to the birds, laurie, vou— but back to the birds, laurie, vea tttm-t— but back to the birds, laurie, you didn't answer that. you mew,— you didn't answer that. you knew ttese— you didn't answer that. you know, these things kill birds in vast— know, these things kill birds in vast numbers— know, these things kill birds in vast numbers . _ know, these things kill birds in vast numbers . “viy know, these things kill birds in vast numbers . iriyr a know, these things kill birds in vast numbers . “viy m vast numbers. they will have an impact on bird life. sure an impact on bird life. sure an impact in the way that other other ways of generating electricity have a negative

impact as well. and don't forget that things like the air pollution coming from fossil fuel power plants have a hugely negative impact on wildlife. i. icannot negative impact on wildlife. i. i cannot tell you, nigel, that there is a form of electricity generation that will just, you know, multiple animal life all over the place and suddenly cure all the ills that faces us. we have to look at costs and balances. and at the end of the day, moving away from fossil fuels, which are polluting our environment, cause air pollution that pollutes our bodies, and then ultimately co2 pollution thatis then ultimately co2 pollution that is raising temperatures and on marine life is making the seas more acidic, which is having a very bad impact on marine life. it doesn't just move where their ranges are. so these things will help . we these things will help. we better tell this to the- “gm m we better tell this to the chinese, the rattan,— better tell this to the chinese, the indian, the— better tell this to the chinese, the indian, the indonesian and the indian, the indonesian and the mttams.— the indian, the indonesian and the indians. i— the indian, the indonesian and the indians. i think laurie , as the indians. i think laurie, as ttamt— the indians. i think laurie, as ever, thank you. _ the indians. i think laurie, as ever, thank you. coming on and for ever, thank you. coming on and ter tetatmg— ever, thank you. coming on and for debating this— ever, thank you. coming on and for debating this with me . and for debating this with me. and taarte— for debating this with me. and taarte ts— for debating this with me. and laurie is right— for debating this with me. and laurie is right to— for debating this with me. and laurie is right to the extent mg,— laurie is right to the extent that et— laurie is right to the extent that, of course,— laurie is right to the extent that, of course, whatever you do there— that, of course, whatever you do ttere ts— that, of course, whatever you do ttere ts gemg— that, of course, whatever you do there is going to— that, of course, whatever you do there is going to be— that, of course, whatever you do there is going to be a cost and there— there is going to be a cost and ttere ts— there is going to be a cost and ttere ts gemg— there is going to be a cost and there is going to— there is going to be a cost and there is going to be a cost and there is going to be a cost and there is going to be a potential temettt— there is going to be a potential temettt. rm— there is going to be a potential benefit. i'm just— there is going to be a potential benefit. i'm just not sure

tatttmg— benefit. i'm just not sure building these- benefit. i'm just not sure building these vast islands in the term— building these vast islands in the north sea— building these vast islands in the north sea sense . now the north sea makes sense. now it's the north sea makes sense. now tt-s-tarrage— the north sea makes sense. now it's-barrage the- it's time for barrage the tarage— it's time for barrage the farage. will— it's time for barrage the farage. will you send in your gaesttemse— farage. will you send in your questions? let's— farage. will you send in your questions? let's begin with amttemv— questions? let's begin with anthony from _ questions? let's begin with anthony from shrewsbury. hi, i'm amttemv— anthony from shrewsbury. hi, i'm tmttemv trem — anthony from shrewsbury. hi, i'm anthony from shrewsbury. hi, i'm anthony from shrewsbury. hi, i'm anthony from shrewsbury. \v vidvi: anthony from shrewsbury. nigel tatt— anthony from shrewsbury. nigel tatt r— anthony from shrewsbury. nigel hall i wondered— anthony from shrewsbury. nigel hall i wondered how influential do you think tony blair would be in any future labour government and would the labour government that tried to enforce digital ids and digital currency rac by worry? anthony is not blair's tmtaemee— worry? anthony is not blair's influence over— worry? anthony is not blair's influence over the _ 7’ anthony is not blair's influence over the labour party . rt-s— influence over the labour party . rt-s ttatr-s— influence over the labour party . it's blair's influence over tte— . it's blair's influence over the conservative - . it's blair's influence over the conservative party . it's the conservative party. it's ttatr-s— the conservative party. it's blair's influence over national tetate— blair's influence over national tetate amt— blair's influence over national debate and indeed blair's tmtaemee— debate and indeed blair's influence over— debate and indeed blair's influence over global debate. i , ttts— influence over global debate. i , ttts ts— influence over global debate. i mean , this is the— influence over global debate. i mean , this is the guy, as you mean, this is the guy, as you say— mean, this is the guy, as you say ,_ mean, this is the guy, as you saw , teves— mean, this is the guy, as you say , loves the— mean, this is the guy, as you say , loves the idea of cbdcs . he say, loves the idea of cbdcs. he teves— say, loves the idea of cbdcs. he teves tte— say, loves the idea of cbdcs. he loves the idea— say, loves the idea of cbdcs. he loves the idea of— say, loves the idea of cbdcs. he loves the idea of a— say, loves the idea of cbdcs. he loves the idea of a global tatatase— loves the idea of a global database, and— loves the idea of a global database, and i- loves the idea of a global database, and i quote for the rats— database, and i quote for the tats ttat— database, and i quote for the tats ttat we— database, and i quote for the jabs that we will— database, and i quote for the jabs that we will all need. and ttatr— jabs that we will all need. and ttatr tas— jabs that we will all need. and blair has become,— jabs that we will all need. and blair has become, frankly, in temeeratte— blair has become, frankly, in democratic terms , this complete democratic terms, this complete amt— democratic terms, this complete amt atsetate— democratic terms, this complete and absolute monster. so i think

his and absolute monster. so i think tts tmttaemee— and absolute monster. so i think his influence is— and absolute monster. so i think his influence is way , way, way his influence is way, way, way tevemt — his influence is way, way, way tevemt tast— his influence is way, way, way beyond just what— his influence is way, way, way beyond just what would happen wttt— beyond just what would happen wttt tte— beyond just what would happen with the labour— beyond just what would happen with the labour party in office. tat— with the labour party in office. tat mew— with the labour party in office. tat mew te— with the labour party in office. but hey, he must— with the labour party in office. but hey, he must be happy, mastm-t— but hey, he must be happy, mastm-t tee— but hey, he must be happy, mustn't he? he's got a high tax, mustn't he? he's got a hiin tax, big mustn't he? he's got a high tax, ttg state— mustn't he? he's got a high tax, big state conservative party who ttmget— big state conservative party who ttmget ea— big state conservative party who pinged our yesterday . de pinged our phones yesterday. de ttatrtsm— pinged our phones yesterday. de ttatrtsmlsemv— pinged our phones yesterday. de blairism,-sorry to— pinged our phones yesterday. de blairism, sorry to say , is blairism, i'm sorry to say, is attve— blairism, i'm sorry to say, is attve amt— blairism, i'm sorry to say, is alive and well— blairism, i'm sorry to say, is alive and well and with record tevets— alive and well and with record tevets et— alive and well and with record levels of net— alive and well and with record levels of net migration . let us levels of net migration. let us go levels of net migration. let us ge te— levels of net migration. let us ge te wart,— levels of net migration. let us go to mark, who— levels of net migration. let us go to mark, who is in bexhill. hi, go to mark, who is in bexhill. tt wart.— go to mark, who is in bexhill. tt wart. tt— go to mark, who is in bexhill. hi, mark. hi nigel. ity hi, mark. hi nigel. my name's wart— hi, mark. hi nigel. my name's mark lane from the north estate down in bexhill, the recent site for asylum seekers. how do you feel about the use of the national emergency protocols issued the government today issued by the government today in attempt to stop the braintree council from the high court injunction? again, what's the tmttteattems— injunction? again, what's the implications for— injunction? again, what's the implications for us- “vi viv“7 again, what's the implications for us down here at tevtttte — implications for us down here at tevtttte rt— implications for us down here at bexhill? it was— implications for us down here at bexhill? m bexhill? it was bizarre that, yes, the government did use emergency powers, but not to send anyone back to france or rwanda. they used them to beat tratmtree— rwanda. they used them to beat braintree district— 7: they used them to beat braintree district council so that— braintree district council so ttat ttev— braintree district council so that they could— braintree district council so that they could use the wethersfield - that they could use the wethersfield former military stte— wethersfield former military stte as— wethersfield former military stte as a— wethersfield former military site as a place— wethersfield former military site as a place to put asylum seeetrs— site as a place to put asylum seeetrs amt— site as a place to put asylum seekers and into— site as a place to put asylum seekers and into the bargain. tetteve— seekers and into the bargain. tetteve tt— seekers and into the bargain. believe it or—

seekers and into the bargain. believe it or not,— seekers and into the bargain. believe it or not, what they aetaattv— believe it or not, what they actually cited _ believe it or not, what they actually cited articles three amt— actually cited articles three amt etgtt— actually cited articles three amt etgtt et— actually cited articles three and eight of the echr. actually cited articles three and eight of the echr . i mean, and eight of the echr. i mean, tramttw— and eight of the echr. i mean, tramttv, vea — and eight of the echr. i mean, tramttv, vea tast— and eight of the echr. i mean, frankly, you just could not make this frankly, you just could not make ttts start— frankly, you just could not make ttts statt at— frankly, you just could not make this stuff up on— frankly, you just could not make this stuff up on the one hand, you— this stuff up on the one hand, vea reat— this stuff up on the one hand, vea eat a— this stuff up on the one hand, vea eat a ttg— this stuff up on the one hand, vea eat a ttg ,— this stuff up on the one hand, you read a big , tough front page you read a big, tough front page of you read a big, tough front page et a— you read a big, tough front page et a samtav— you read a big, tough front page of a sunday telegraph. you know, it of a sunday telegraph. you know, tt tetts— of a sunday telegraph. you know, tt tetts vea— of a sunday telegraph. you know, it tells you suella _ of a sunday telegraph. you know, it tells you suella is prepared to it tells you suella is prepared te tetv— it tells you suella is prepared to defy everybody to get the twamta— to defy everybody to get the twamta ttam — to defy everybody to get the rwanda plan off the ground . and rwanda plan off the ground. and then— rwanda plan off the ground. and ttem vea— rwanda plan off the ground. and ttem vea see— rwanda plan off the ground. and then you see their— rwanda plan off the ground. and then you see their own lawyers in then you see their own lawyers m the — then you see their own lawyers m the tast— then you see their own lawyers in the last week— then you see their own lawyers in the last week arguing using tett— in the last week arguing using tctt .— in the last week arguing using tctt . r— in the last week arguing using tctt . r ttmt— in the last week arguing using echr. i find the— in the last week arguing using echr. i find the whole thing tetattv— echr. i find the whole thing totally extraordinary . now, totally extraordinary. now, racet— totally extraordinary. now, raeet, get— totally extraordinary. now, raeet, get te— totally extraordinary. now, jacob, got to ask you , how was jacob, got to ask you, how was wear— jacob, got to ask you, how was vear satmt— jacob, got to ask you, how was your saint george's day? q“ your saint george's day? oh, tantamo— your saint george's day? oh, fantastic. very— your saint george's day? oh, fantastic. very jolly- your saint george's day? oh, fantastic. very jolly saint george's day. and that's one of things we're discussing is saint george the right saint who never came to england, knew nothing about england . what about the about england. what about the great saint alphege, was the great saint alphege, who was the first wouldn't pay first tax martyr, wouldn't pay extra tax to the danes and had ox bones thrown at him or thomas becket stood up for the rights of church, freedom of the of the church, freedom of the church a tyrannical church against a tyrannical state. we'll be discussing state. so we'll be discussing whether have whether we shouldn't have another, exciting saint. another, more exciting saint. that was the catholic church. wett — that was the catholic church. wett et— that was the catholic church.

well, of course,— that was the catholic church. well, of course, the church samtam r— well, of course, the church sanctum. i thought he would be. it sanctum. i thought he would be. rt ts— sanctum. i thought he would be. rt ts samt— sanctum. i thought he would be. it is saint george— sanctum. i thought he would be. it is saint george who is a very tmteresttmg— it is saint george who is a very interesting choice— it is saint george who is a very interesting choice ,_ it is saint george who is a very interesting choice , as you know. interesting choice, as you know. amt— interesting choice, as you know. amt vae— interesting choice, as you know. amt vea-re rtgtt— interesting choice, as you know. amt vea-re rtgtt .— interesting choice, as you know. and you're right. but i guess samt— and you're right. but i guess satmt eeerge— and you're right. but i guess saint george was— and you're right. but i guess saint george was chosen because of saint george was chosen because et ttts— saint george was chosen because et ttts tmage— saint george was chosen because of this image of— saint george was chosen because of this image of christian martvrtem. — of this image of christian martyrdom. “43?" of this image of christian martyrdom. “cir? “ mvicyv of this image of christian- martyrdom. yeah, absolutely. and because in the crusades they are wearing his colours and suddenly they win a great victory. and then with the founding of the order of the garter, that's really the point at which he gets consolidated as the patron saint and edward the confessor who had been very up who had been very important up until then loses out order of the garter , the king. two new the garter, the king. two new attemtmemts— the garter, the king. two new appointments, two— the garter, the king. two new appointments, two new- appointments, two new appointments. former eu commissioners. appointments. former eu- commissioners. what a surprise . commissioners. what a surprise. me— commissioners. what a surprise. the establishment— commissioners. what a surprise. the establishment is— commissioners. the establishment is back in eemtret— the establishment is back in eemtret ,— the establishment is back in control , isn't— the establishment is back in control , isn't it? /viv. g“ control, isn't it? you might think that i couldn't possibly comment. very good indeed. well, ttat-s— comment. very good indeed. well, ttat-s emeagt— comment. very good indeed. well, that's enough from _ comment. very good indeed. well, that's enough from me— i very good indeed. well, that's enough from me for this evemtmg. — that's enough from me for this evemtmg. wett— that's enough from me for this evening. well, you know what? vae— evening. well, you know what? vea-re getmg— evening. well, you know what? vea-re getmg te— evening. well, you know what? you're going to be— evening. well, you know what? you're going to be discussing wttt— you're going to be discussing wrtm jacob?— you're going to be discussing with jacob? something to look terwart— with jacob? something to look temart te— with jacob? something to look forward to now,— with jacob? something to look forward to now, april showers evem-see te- forward to now, april showers never, seem to want to end. never, ever seem to want to end. tet-s— never, ever seem to want to end. tet-s tave— never, ever seem to want to end. tet-s have a— never, ever seem to want to end. let's have a look— never, ever seem to want to end. let's have a look at— never, ever seem to want to end. let's have a look at the weatter. — let's have a look at the weather. is— let's have a look at the weather. is there some good news on weather. is there some good news em tte— weather. is there some good news

em the way?— weather. is there some good news em the way? tt— weather. is there some good news on the way? hi there . m ' v:m“ on the way? hi there. it's aidan weetvem— on the way? hi there. it's aidan mcgivern here from the met office. skies clearing during the 24 hours leading a the next 24 hours leading to a widespread frost of us widespread frost for many of us on morning . widespread frost for many of us on morning. but widespread frost for many of us on morning . but despite on tuesday morning. but despite the chilly start, actually, most places on tuesday. places will be fine on tuesday. we've low pressure moving we've got low pressure moving away as that into the away as that pushes into the nonh away as that pushes into the north sea. cold wind arrives from the north and having seen a weather front bring outbreaks of rain to southern england and wales during the day, well that tends to clear away during the evening, leading to clear skies, light winds as well, which means all the ingredients there with arctic air in place for a chilly start to tuesday, a widespread frost , temperatures between one frost, temperatures between one 1 or 2 degrees either side of zero and in some sheltered parts of scotland , as low as minus six of scotland, as low as minus six degrees . 1 or of scotland, as low as minus six degrees. 1 or 2 icy patches to watch out for first thing, but they'll soon clear further wintry showers coming into the north scotland. so a mixture north of scotland. so a mixture of sleet, hail and snow showers. but accumulations really but any accumulations really restricted the hills and restricted to the hills and mountains . few showers mountains. a few rain showers around irish coast, but around irish sea coast, but otherwise of dry and

otherwise plenty of dry and bright for bright weather. sunny spells for many, even if it does cloud over a little into the afternoon and it feel cold out there, it will feel cold out there, particularly if you're exposed to across and to the wind across northern and eastern well as the eastern scotland as well as the eastern scotland as well as the east england. but where we've east of england. but where we've got winds elsewhere with got lighter winds elsewhere with some feeling too some sunshine not feeling too unpleasant, then clear skies once again on tuesday night will lead to a fairly widespread frost. but towards the southwest, thicker cloud and for cornwall and perhaps devon later on some outbreaks of light rain that'll keep things frost free 7 or 8 celsius towards the south—west whilst across scotland , northern and eastern scotland, northern and eastern england. again a chilly one to wake up to on wednesday morning. the wintry showers by wednesday though confined to the far northeast of scotland and further south we've got thicker cloud and some outbreaks of light pushing through light rain pushing through a dull damp day, especially dull and damp day, especially for south wales and the southwest england . and southwest of england. and similar on thursday similar conditions on thursday with rain moving with some heavier rain moving through thursday night across through on thursday night across southern of uk , southern parts of the uk, clearing the way, though, for warmer weekend .

ulez gb news in a moment, headliners. but first, let's bnng headliners. but first, let's bring you the latest news headunes bring you the latest news headlines and top story. the headlines and the top story. the government says it's taking the royal of to royal college of nursing to court after labelling their planned strike action unlawful . planned strike action unlawful. full. the health secretary, steve barclay says he's been left with no choice but to proceed legal action proceed with legal action following failed attempts by his officials to resolve the situation. it comes as the union prepares to take industrial action from the 30th of april to the 2nd of may. the rcn leader pat cullen described the government's legislation as draconian . meanwhile, the draconian. meanwhile, the confederate lion of british industry says it has dismissed a number of people after a series of sexual misconduct and rape allegations. dozens of the body's members, though,

including bma, vodafone and john lewis , have all left with the lewis, have all left with the organisation's suspending all its policy and membership activities. earlier the chancellor, jeremy hunt, said there is no point engaging with there is no point engaging with the cbi any more and that the government wants to work with a trade body that sticks up for business. now sir keir starmer says the comments made by the labour mp diane abbott were anti—semitic in an article for the observer, the former shadow health secretary had said jewish, irish and traveller people experienced prejudice but not racism. she's since withdrawn the remarks and she's apologised used. labour has previously come under fire for anti—semitic remarks made by former party leader jeremy corbyn. sir keir says it's absolutely right. the party acted as swiftly as it did. what she wrote yesterday. i utterly condemn them _ she wrote yesterday. i utterly condemn them and- she wrote yesterday. i utterly condemn them and i- : i utterly condemn them and i said we would tear— condemn them and i said we would tear eat— condemn them and i said we would tear out anti—semitism by its reets — tear out anti—semitism by its reets r— tear out anti—semitism by its roots. i meant— tear out anti—semitism by its roots. i meant it.— tear out anti—semitism by its roots. i meant it. and that's why— roots. i meant it. and that's wtv we— roots. i meant it. and that's wtv we aetet— roots. i meant it. and that's why we acted so— roots. i meant it. and that's

why we acted so swiftly vestertav— why we acted so swiftly vestertav .— why we acted so swiftly vestertav. r— why we acted so swiftly yesterday . i think it's