good morning. welcome to star on gb news with me andrew pierce and bev turner. it's a dramatic unfolding situation this morning in sudan. the mass evacuation is underway— in sudan. the mass evacuation is underway right— in sudan. the mass evacuation is underway right now.— " 3" the mass evacuation is underway right now. thousands of brits— underway right now. thousands of are are— underway right now. thousands of are being— underway right now. thousands of brits are being rescued and were— brits are being rescued and were re— brits are being rescued and flights are already leaving the country— flights are already leaving the country are— flights are already leaving the country and other routes of escape— country and other routes of escape are being planned. this morning,— escape are being planned. this morning, we— escape are being planned. this morning, we hear— escape are being planned. this morning, we hear from those cerem— morning, we hear from those caught up— morning, we hear from those caught up re— morning, we hear from those caught up in chaos. 'r: caught up in the chaos. and, of rhe— caught up in the chaos. and, of course, the government's been accused own accused of banning its own people. rescue effort

people. is this rescue effort too little, too late? the french have far more people out. have got far more people out. and course, is the and where, of course, is the ambassador sudan he's on ambassador to sudan or he's on houdayin ambassador to sudan or he's on holiday in london. also this morning, pledging- holiday in london. also this morning, pledging to- ca " 3" also this morning, pledging to protect women's rights,— morning, pledging to protect women's rights, the prime minister— women's rights, the prime minister declares that he absolutely— minister declares that he absolutely knows what a woman is and absolutely knows what a woman is are wru— absolutely knows what a woman is and win freer— absolutely knows what a woman is and will fight to— absolutely knows what a woman is and will fight to defend single sex spaces. can— and will fight to defend single sex spaces. can his promise help pretee— sex spaces. can his promise help prereer these — sex spaces. can his promise help protect those who— sex spaces. can his promise help protect those who fear being silenced?— protect those who fear being silenced? who's— protect those who fear being silenced? who's having a dig at? and— silenced? who's having a dig at? and guess— silenced? who's having a dig at? and guess what?— silenced? who's having a dig at? and guess what? at— silenced? who's having a dig at? and guess what? at the- silenced? who's having a dig at? and guess what? at the age- silenced? who's having a dig at? and guess what? at the age of 80, joe biden is going to announce today he's going to run again to be the leader of the free world, which will make him 86 at the end of his next term. are you as old as you feel . all are you as old as you feel. all extraordinary that joe biden predictable? it's ridiculous, actually . and worrying. actually. and worrying. ridiculous, right. let us actually. and worrying. - ridiculous, right. let us know your— ridiculous, right. let us know your rueugme— ridiculous, right. let us know your thoughts on— ridiculous, right. let us know your thoughts on everything we're discussing this morning. gb we're discussing this morning. ee -ur— we're discussing this morning. gb at gbnews.uk is the gb views at gbnews.uk is the erran— gb views at gbnews.uk is the email address. _ gb views at gbnews.uk is the email address. as— gb views at gbnews.uk is the email address. as always . but email address. as always. but firet— email address. as always. but first of— email address. as always. but first er en,— email address. as always. but first of all, here— email address. as always. but first of all, here are your news headlines— first of all, here are your news headlines with— first of all, here are your news headlines with tamsin roberts .

headlines with tamsin roberts. marre— headlines with tamsin roberts. rueure very— headlines with tamsin roberts. thanks very much, bev. good morning— thanks very much, bev. good morning from — thanks very much, bev. good morning from the— thanks very much, bev. good morning from the gb newsroom. it's morning from the gb newsroom. rr-e 932. — morning from the gb newsroom. rr-e 932. here— morning from the gb newsroom. it's 932. here are— morning from the gb newsroom. it's 932. here are the- morning from the gb newsroom. it's 932. rzirrz; 3”r:i; : it's 932. here are the headlines . the prime minister says a large scale evacuation of british nationals from sudan has begun raaf flights leaving outside the capital khartoum will be open to british passport holders , with priority being holders, with priority being given to the most vulnerable rival military factions have agreed to a 72 hour ceasefire in the country . agreed to a 72 hour ceasefire in the country. hundreds of agreed to a 72 hour ceasefire in the country . hundreds of people the country. hundreds of people have died in the conflict between the sudanese army and the paramilitary group rapid support forces. the foreign secretary , james cleverly, says secretary, james cleverly, says the government's been contacting british nationals directly with evacuation routes . the truth is evacuation routes. the truth is that we cannot predict how the situation on the ground will develop the conflict has, as i say, been unpredictable . it's say, been unpredictable. it's been volatile. we have- 3 c. : f it's been volatile. we have said that we unable— been volatile. we have said that we are unable to— been volatile. we have said that we are unable to provide escorts from— we are unable to provide escorts from where— we are unable to provide escorts from where british— we are unable to provide escorts from where british nationals are

to me— from where british nationals are to the airhead. _ from where british nationals are to the airhead. they will have to the airhead. they will have to make— to the airhead. they will have to make their— to the airhead. they will have to make their own way. there as indeed— to make their own way. there as ruueeu ree— to make their own way. there as indeed has been— to make their own way. there as indeed has been the case for the rationale— indeed has been the case for the rationale of— indeed has been the case for the nationals of other— indeed has been the case for the nationals of other countries . we nationals of other countries. we wru— nationals of other countries. we will maintain— nationals of other countries. we will maintain this— nationals of other countries. we will maintain this airhead for as long— will maintain this airhead for as long ee— will maintain this airhead for as tone as we— will maintain this airhead for as long as we can, but the situation— as long as we can, but the situation does— as long as we can, but the situation does remain, as i say, dangerous— situation does remain, as i say, uuugereue unu— situation does remain, as i say, dangerous and volatile . dangerous and volatile. more then— dangerous and volatile. more then s— dangerous and volatile. more than 8 million— dangerous and volatile. more than 8 million households will start receiving a £301 cost of living support payment from the government today . it's the first government today. it's the first of government today. it's the first or three — government today. it's the first of three payments— g : it's the first of three payments totalling up to £900— of three payments totalling up to £900 fer— of three payments totalling up to £900 for those— of three payments totalling up to £900 for those eligible on benefite— to £900 for those eligible on benefits such— to £900 for those eligible on benefits such as— to £900 for those eligible on benefits such as universal crem— benefits such as universal credit or— benefits such as universal credit or pension credit . the credit or pension credit. the cueueeuer— credit or pension credit. the chancellor has— credit or pension credit. the chancellor has warned the government— chancellor has warned the government can't borrow forever , ue figures— government can't borrow forever , as figures reached— government can't borrow forever , as figures reached the fourth highest— , as figures reached the fourth highest since— , as figures reached the fourth highest since records began . the highest since records began. the office— highest since records began. the office for— highest since records began. the office for national— highest since records began. the office for national statistics eeye— office for national statistics says government borrowing jumped by more— says government borrowing jumped by rheu— says government borrowing jumped by than be— says government borrowing jumped by more than £8 billion in the beer— by more than £8 billion in the past financial— by more than £8 billion in the past financial year to reach ebb-z— past financial year to reach £1392 billion.— past financial year to reach £139.2 billion. jeremy hunt says the debe— £139.2 billion. jeremy hunt says the debts re— £139.2 billion. jeremy hunt says the debts are a— £139.2 billion. jeremy hunt says the debts are a result of berbrug— the debts are a result of helping families and businesses rbreueb—

helping families and businesses through the— helping families and businesses through the pandemic and the ongoing— through the pandemic and the ongoing wer— through the pandemic and the ongoing br— through the pandemic and the ongoing war in ukraine. the best— ongoing war in ukraine. the latest hearing— ongoing war in ukraine. the latest hearing in prince harry's regur— latest hearing in prince harry's begub buttres— latest hearing in prince harry's legal battles with the uk press wru— legal battles with the uk press rub rere— legal battles with the uk press will take place— legal battles with the uk press will take place at— legal battles with the uk press will take place at the high court— will take place at the high court br— will take place at the high court in london— will take place at the high court in london this morning . court in london this morning. rbe— court in london this morning. rbe bure— court in london this morning. rbe duke of— court in london this morning. the duke of sussex is suing news group— the duke of sussex is suing news ereub ueueuerebp— the duke of sussex is suing news group newspapers. the publisher of group newspapers. the publisher or the— group newspapers. the publisher or the sur— group newspapers. the publisher of the sun and— group newspapers. the publisher of the sun and the— group newspapers. the publisher of the sun and the now defunct newe— of the sun and the now defunct news or— of the sun and the now defunct news or we— of the sun and the now defunct news of the world— of the sun and the now defunct news of the world over alleged unlawful— news of the world over alleged unlawful information gathering. the unlawful information gathering. rbe bearing— unlawful information gathering. rbe bearing b— unlawful information gathering. the hearing is expected to last three— the hearing is expected to last three buye— the hearing is expected to last three days ee— the hearing is expected to last three days as tv— the hearing is expected to last three days as tv or online radio eru— three days as tv or online radio and er— three days as tv or online radio are or tube— three days as tv or online radio and on tune in.— three days as tv or online radio and on tune in. this is gb news. new— and on tune in. this is gb news. new b-e— and on tune in. this is gb news. new ne beer— and on tune in. this is gb news. now it's back to— and on tune in. this is gb news. now it's back to andrew and . now it's back to andrew and. bev |wen.— now it's back to andrew and. bev i nen. nb— now it's back to andrew and. bev - well, it's underway.- now it's back to andrew and. bev - well, it's underway. good- well, it's underway. good morning underway. morning to you. it's underway. the evacuation is taking morning to you. it's underway. the fromicuation is taking morning to you. it's underway. the from khartoum taking morning to you. it's underway. the from khartoum ,aking morning to you. it's underway. the from khartoum , up1g morning to you. it's underway. the from khartoum , up to 4000 place from khartoum, up to 4000 british passport holders there. some of them, of course, many of them dual nationals. that's right, fellows. last night's announcement— right, fellows. last night'si announcement-hour announcement of a 72 hour eeenre— announcement of a 72 hour ceasefire country between ceasefire in the country between the ceasefire in the country between we we— ceasefire in the country between the two warring— ceasefire in the country between the two warring factions .

the two warring factions. hours eerner. — the two warring factions. hours eerner. rbe— the two warring factions. hours earlier, the foreign secretary, james cleverly confirmed that britain is now contacting british nationals directly with evacuation routes . the truth is evacuation routes. the truth is war— evacuation routes. the truth is but we— evacuation routes. the truth is that we cannot— evacuation routes. the truth is that we cannot predict- f" the truth is that we cannot predict how the situation— that we cannot predict how the enueneu eu— that we cannot predict how the situation on the— that we cannot predict how the situation on the ground will neweneb— situation on the ground will newereb rbe— situation on the ground will develop the conflict has, as i say,— develop the conflict has, as i buy, beer— develop the conflict has, as i say, been unpredictable. it's been— say, been unpredictable. it's been volatile. _ say, been unpredictable. it's been volatile. we have said that we uwebne— been volatile. we have said that we are unable to— been volatile. we have said that we are unable to provide escorts bere— we are unable to provide escorts from where— we are unable to provide escorts from where british— we are unable to provide escorts from where british nationals are to from where british nationals are b we— from where british nationals are to the airhead. _ from where british nationals are to the airhead. they will have to the airhead. they will have b were— to the airhead. they will have to make their— to the airhead. they will have to make their own way there, as indeed— to make their own way there, as indeed bee— to make their own way there, as indeed has been— to make their own way there, as indeed has been the case for the numbers— indeed has been the case for the uubeuub ef— indeed has been the case for the nationals of other— indeed has been the case for the nationals of other countries. we wrn— nationals of other countries. we will maintain— nationals of other countries. we will maintain this— nationals of other countries. we will maintain this airhead for as will maintain this airhead for re newe— will maintain this airhead for re none ee— will maintain this airhead for re none as we— will maintain this airhead for as long as we can, but the situation— as long as we can, but the situation does— as long as we can, but the situation does remain. as i say, dangerous— situation does remain. as i say, oongerous eno— situation does remain. as i say, dangerous and volatile. so it's obwousny— dangerous and volatile. so it's obwousny o— dangerous and volatile. so it's obviously a fast— dangerous and volatile. so it's obviously a fast moving snuonon— obviously a fast moving situation and- obviously a fast moving situation and we're going to be rowing— situation and we're going to be rowing oo— situation and we're going to be talking to somebody over in surren— talking to somebody over in sudan, aren't— talking to somebody over in sudan, aren't we? 3 sudan, aren't we? live in just a moment. but first of all, let's speak to our deputy political edhon speak to our deputy political editor, tom harwood. good morning, what's happened morning, tom. what's happened since today we've since yesterday? today we've got it's country about 45, 46 it's a country of about 45, 46 million people. sudan there are

about 4000 brits still left there to be removed . what are there to be removed. what are there to be removed. what are the government doing? yeah, it's a really big problem— 3 cc» g37 yeah, it's a really big problem because, of course,-not only- a really big problem because, of course,-not only a- course, sudan not only a renoneny— course, sudan not only a relatively populated country , relatively populated country, but obo— relatively populated country, but also lvast_ relatively populated country, but also vast country, one of but also a vast country, one of be— but also a vast country, one of one biggest— but also a vast country, one of the biggest land— but also a vast country, one of the biggest land areas of any country— the biggest land areas of any country in— the biggest land areas of any country in africa— the biggest land areas of any country in africa . and we don't country in africa. and we don't know— country in africa. and we don't know weerseby— country in africa. and we don't know precisely where these 4000 burs— know precisely where these 4000 one — know precisely where these 4000 brits are. we've— know precisely where these 4000 brits are. we've got— know precisely where these 4000 brits are. we've got a rough neo— brits are. we've got a rough nee of— brits are. we've got a rough idea of some— brits are. we've got a rough idea of some of— brits are. we've got a rough idea of some of them. but of course, we know— idea of some of them. but of course, we know some of them are beonbe— course, we know some of them are oeonne-were— course, we know some of them are oeobne-were obere— course, we know some of them are people were there simply on people that were there simply on bonooy— people that were there simply on holiday,-friends,- people that were there simply on holiday, friends, not holiday, visiting friends, not permanent— holiday, visiting friends, not permanent residents. so really permanent residents. so a really big-in— permanent residents. so a really big-in-of- permanent residents. so a really| big-in-of tracking big problem in terms of tracking obese— big problem in terms of tracking obese-down — big problem in terms of tracking these-down, but- big problem in terms of tracking these down, but also the these people down, but also the sbonee— these people down, but also the sbonee-nobbeneo- change that has happened owernreno— change that has happened overnight is— change that has happened overnight is this announcement of o— overnight is this announcement of o eosenre— overnight is this announcement of a ceasefire now, the us seems confluent— of a ceasefire now, the us seems confident they've— of a ceasefire now, the us seems confident they've helped broker one.— confident they've helped broker onrs. ne— confident they've helped broker onrs. rne us— confident they've helped broker this. the us secretary of state announced it,— this. the us secretary of state announced it, but— this. the us secretary of state announced it, but of course the uk government— announced it, but of course the uk government is— announced it, but of course the uk government is cautious as we've seen ceasefires break down before— we've seen ceasefires break down before one— we've seen ceasefires break down before one so— we've seen ceasefires break down before one so ff— we've seen ceasefires break down before and so it is— we've seen ceasefires break down before and so it is still a very dangerous— before and so it is still a very dangerous situation . but what dangerous situation. but what the ceasefire— dangerous situation. but what the ceasefire appears to have onoweo— the ceasefire appears to have onoweo fbe— the ceasefire appears to have allowed the british government to allowed the british government fo oo— allowed the british government fo oo rs— allowed the british government fo oo fs 90— allowed the british government to do is go back— allowed the british government to do is go back to plan a, plan b, to do is go back to plan a, plan b, of— to do is go back to plan a, plan b, of ourse— to do is go back to plan a, plan b, of course, was— to do is go back to plan a, plan b, of course, was these boats, fbese— b, of course, was these boats, fbese foyer— b, of course, was these boats, these royal naval— b, of course, was these boats, these royal naval ships that fbof— these royal naval ships that were that are— these royal naval ships that were that are being sent around to were that are being sent around fo fbe— were that are being sent around fo fbe ooosf— were that are being sent around to the coast of— were that are being sent around to the coast of sudan . and of

to the coast of sudan. and of wffn— to the coast of sudan. and of course, with the— to the coast of sudan. and of course, with the ceasefire, bowee— course, with the ceasefire, however , that— course, with the ceasefire, however , that opens an avenue however, that opens an avenue for ur— however, that opens an avenue for or frowef. — however, that opens an avenue for air travel. and— however, that opens an avenue for air travel. and so the esefre— for air travel. and so the ceasefire has— for air travel. and so the ceasefire has allowed the raf to fn eno— ceasefire has allowed the raf to come in and there— ceasefire has allowed the raf to come in and there are now fffgbfs— come in and there are now news fbof— come in and there are now flights that are— come in and there are now flights that are scheduled out of o— flights that are scheduled out of o fofe— flights that are scheduled out of a little airhead that we have esfebffsbeo— of a little airhead that we have established up— of a little airhead that we have established up near the capital. ano— established up near the capital. one fbe— established up near the capital. and the foreign— established up near the capital. and the foreign secretary. this nornfne— and the foreign secretary. this nornfne rs— and the foreign secretary. this morning is saying— and the foreign secretary. this morning is saying that according to morning is saying that according fo o— morning is saying that according fo o son— morning is saying that according fo o sorf of— morning is saying that according to a sort of priority— morning is saying that according to a sort of priority list, efoerfy— to a sort of priority list, elderly first— to a sort of priority list, elderly first women and children , foanes— elderly first women and children , families, that— elderly first women and children , families, that sort of worry— , families, that sort of priority list- , families, that sort of priority list people should make web— priority list people should make fbefr own— priority list people should make fbefr way— priority list people should make their own way to _ priority list people should make their own way to that airhead fbof— their own way to that airhead fbof fbe— their own way to that airhead that the british _ their own way to that airhead that the british government has esfebffsbeo— that the british government has established it.— that the british government has established it. and there will be nor— established it. and there will be raf flights— established it. and there will be raf flights out of there. however, it's— be raf flights out of there. however, it's impossible to say bow— however, it's impossible to say bow nong— however, it's impossible to say how long these— however, it's impossible to say how long these flights will be going— how long these flights will be gone on— how long these flights will be gone on for— how long these flights will be going on for ultimately , it going on for ultimately, it seems likely— going on for ultimately, it seems likely they will last as none— seems likely they will last as none os— seems likely they will last as long as fbe— seems likely they will last as long as the ceasefire does. ' 3r: long as the ceasefire does. and as you— long as the ceasefire does. and as you owned— long as the ceasefire does. and as you pointed out,— long as the ceasefire does. and as you pointed out, tom, they don't always last. there was a ceasefire just a few days ago. it broke down very quickly and a french somebody yes french somebody was shot. yes yeah. the big worry yeah. and that's the big worry for the government and that's

the risk. and this is why the oowernnenf— the risk. and this is why thej government -they're the risk. and this is why the- government-they're not government is saying they're not browsing— government is saying they're not providing-escorts- government is saying they're not providing escorts for providing individual escorts for bnfs— providing individual escorts for brits—airhead. i brits to get to that airhead. buf— brits to get to that airhead. buf-fney-re — brits to get to that airhead. but they're their but once they're out their ofrbeob— but once they're out their airhead,-can- but once they're out their airhead, can out. but once they're out their- airhead,-can-out. the airhead, they can get out. the ofber— airhead, they can get out. the ofber big— airhead, they can get out. the other big concern— airhead, they can get out. the other big concern about britain in other big concern about britain fn oorffeufor— other big concern about britain in particular in— other big concern about britain in particular in this area is compared— in particular in this area is compared fo— in particular in this area is compared to any other european sounfry— compared to any other european eounfry. we-we— compared to any other european country. we've got— compared to any other european country. we've got the most oeobfe— country. we've got the most people fbere— country. we've got the most people there. so— country. we've got the most people there. so it's a much sfnbfer— people there. so it's a much simpler operation for the sermons— simpler operation for the germans or— simpler operation for the germans or the french or wbofewen— germans or the french or whatever, because it's a smaller number— whatever, because it's a smaller number of— whatever, because it's a smaller number of people— whatever, because it's a smaller number of people we're talking obouf. — number of people we're talking about. -talking_ number of people we're talking about.-talking up- number of people we're talking about. talking up 4000 about. we're talking up to 4000 oeoofe— about. we're talking up to 4000 oeoofe-os— about. we're talking up to 4000 oeonfe-os f— about. we're talking up to 4000 people.-as i said— about. we're talking up to 4000 people.-as i said at- about. we're talking up to 4000 people. as i said at the people. and as i said at the sferb— people. and as i said at the sforf, we— people. and as i said at the start, we don't— people. and as i said at the start, we don't know precisely wbere— start, we don't know precisely wbereiof— start, we don't know precisely where .of these _ start, we don't know precisely where of these people are where all of these people are one— where all of these people are one-oun— where all of these people are and dual nationals, and if they're dual nationals, do and if they're dual nationals, oo-o— and if they're dual nationals, do a responsibility to do we have a responsibility to get do we have a responsibility to gef-ouff — do we have a responsibility to gef-ouff fw- do we have a responsibility to get-out? i'm not- do we have a responsibility to get out? ”n3.:3; do we have a responsibility to. get-out? i'm not sure we get them out? i'm not sure we do. well ultimately, they have a right to call on the british government. if they have a bnffsn— government. if they have a british passport— government. if they have a british passport and- e if they have a british passport and so dual noffonofs— british passport and so dual nationals will— british passport and so dual nationals will have that right to nationals will have that right fo soy— nationals will have that right fo soy fo— nationals will have that right fo soy fo fbe— nationals will have that right to say to the british government you need— to say to the british government you need fo— to say to the british government you need fo eef— to say to the british government you need to get me— to say to the british government you need to get me out. they can:— you need to get me out. they can, under international law, rety— can, under international law, refy on— can, under international law, rely on .consular- can, under international law, rely on consular support. rely on our consular support. nowee— rely on our consular support. nowee ,— rely on our consular support. however i think— rely on our consular support. however i think that you are won— however i think that you are rfebf fo— however i think that you are right to raise— however i think that you are right to raise that question. of course,_therel right to raise that question. of. course,_there are course, we understand there are round— course, we understand there are around-so— course, we understand there are around-so on— course, we understand there are around so all british around 400. so all british noffonofs— around 400. so all british nationals there- around 400. so all british nationals there , there and the nationals there, there and the resf— nationals there, there and the resf re— nationals there, there and the rest are are are— nationals there, there and the rest are are are dual nationals. ano— rest are are are dual nationals. ano ,— rest are are are dual nationals. and n fbfnr—

rest are are are dual nationals. and i think that— rest are are are dual nationals. and i think that perhaps there is o— and i think that perhaps there is a different— and i think that perhaps there is a different political imperative— is a different political imperative there and perhaps of— imperative there and perhaps some of these— imperative there and perhaps some of these dual nationals feet— some of these dual nationals feef nose— some of these dual nationals feel closer to— some of these dual nationals feel closer to another country onu— feel closer to another country and re— feel closer to another country and refyfng— feel closer to another country and are relying on other sounnesf— and are relying on other countries. that again, is an unknown. just— countries. that again, is an unknown. �*" unknown. just finally, politically , the government is politically, the government is haunted, isn't it, by what happenedin haunted, isn't it, by what happened in the fall of kabul? it was a disaster, not least because we left behind afghan interpreters who'd risked life and limb and their families for this country and some of them are still there. yeah, it's a disgraceful situation. and clearly foreign disgraceful situation. and. clearly - foreign secretary r: ting 3 r:3r3 and clearlyjamesireign secretary r: 3g 3 r:3r3 and clearlyjames cleverly cretary r: 3g 3 r:3r3 and clearlyjames cleverly saying today, james cleverly saying fbfs— today, james cleverly saying fbfs rs— today, james cleverly saying fbfs fs nof— today, james cleverly saying this is not a— today, james cleverly saying this is not a similar situation to this is not a similar situation fo rebuf— this is not a similar situation to kabul.-are- this is not a similar situation to kabul. are many to kabul. there are many differences— to kabul. there are many differences and also, i suppose, differences— differences and also, i suppose, differences in— differences and also, i suppose, differences in in— differences and also, i suppose, differences in in the operation, given— differences in in the operation, gwen fbof— differences in in the operation, given that james— differences in in the operation, given that james cleverly oefuony— given that james cleverly actually cut _ given that james cleverly actually cut his not his bonooy— actually cut his not his holiday, but— actually cut his not his holiday, but his work trip to fbe— holiday, but his work trip to the pacific. _ holiday, but his work trip to the pacific. some might have seenls— the pacific. some might have seenlas a as a— the pacific. some might have seenlas a as a bit- the pacific. some might have seen as a as a bit of a seen it as a as a bit of a jolly,— seen it as a as a bit of a jollvr buf— seen it as a as a bit of a jollvr buf ff— seen it as a as a bit of a jolly, but it is- seen it as a as a bit of a jolly, but it is a- seen it as a as a bit of a jolly, but it is a crucial set of alliances— jolly, but it is a crucial set of alliances that we're building up of alliances that we're building un—our— of alliances that we're building up -our accession . of alliances that we're building up our accession to up there with our accession to wbof-s— up there with our accession to wbof-s-fne- up there with our accession to what's-the tpp- up there with our accession to what's-the tpp or. up there with our accession to what's the tpp or the what's known as the tpp or the comprehensive— what's known as the tpp or the comprehensive and progressive bons— comprehensive and progressive frons reefe— comprehensive and progressive trans pacific partnership. james cfewerfy—oreo- cleverly was in that area soeorfng— cleverly was in that area speaking those leaders. he speaking with those leaders. he cut speaking with those leaders. he ouf—boon- speaking with those leaders. he suf—boer fo| cut that short to come back to beef— cut that short to come back to beef-fbe— cut that short to come back to deal-the situation- cut that short to come back to deal the situation as it deal with the situation as it sforfeo— deal with the situation as it started-break— deal with the situation as it started break down last week started to break down last week . unbre— started to break down last week

. unlike dominic— started to break down last week . unlike dominic raab,- started to break down last week . unlike dominic raab, when he was foreign there's a was foreign secretary, there's a contrast afghanistan . contrast there in afghanistan. i we're going to talk now, i think we're going to talk now, nooefuny— i think we're going to talk now, hopefully sudanese national hopefully to a sudanese national fbonr— hopefully to a sudanese national bank you,— hopefully to a sudanese national bank you-by— hopefully to a sudanese national thank you, -by the - hopefully to a sudanese national thank you, by the way, who thank you, tom. by the way, who is thank you, tom. by the way, who fs-rngf— thank you, tom. by the way, who fs-rngf-ouf— thank you, tom. by the way, who is-right-out there- thank you, tom. by the way, who is-right-out there in- is out right now out there in suoon— is out right now out there in suoon rfgbf— is out right now out there in sudan right now, dr. tariq ahmed . booe— sudan right now, dr. tariq ahmed . good morning,— sudan right now, dr. tariq ahmed . good morning, doctor. tariq if you— . good morning, doctor. tariq if you son— . good morning, doctor. tariq if you beer— . good morning, doctor. tariq if you can hear us. _ . good morning, doctor. tariq if you can hear us. / . good morning, doctor. tariq if you can hear us. 34:33 3 d you can hear us. yeah, good morning. good morning. i can hear you. good morning . so much hear you. good morning. so much for having me and for this opportunity. thank you for joining— opportunity. thank you for joining — opportunity. thank you for joining ff— opportunity. thank you for joining us. if you- 3 b; thank you for joining us. if you could just fen— joining us. if you could just fen us— joining us. if you could just tell us whereabouts you are, wbof— tell us whereabouts you are, wbof fbe— tell us whereabouts you are, what the situation is like there on fbe— what the situation is like there on be ground— what the situation is like there on the ground at— what the situation is like there on the ground at the moment. right-— on the ground at the moment. ngbf. so— on the ground at the moment. nobf. so f-nf— on the ground at the moment. right. so i'm one— on the ground at the moment. right. so i'm one of— on the ground at the moment. right. so i'm one of the- on the ground at the moment. right. so i'm one of the nhs doctors from the sudanese national. i i came over to sudan to see my family, as usual, what i do every year celebrate ramadan and a&e and the situation since i stopped to i booked my leave . i came over. booked my leave. i came over. the situation was absolutely , i the situation was absolutely, i would say, normal to sudan has some sort of instability long term stability. but but but was

was safe to go , i would say so was safe to go, i would say so when i came situation was safe to go. but i think me and all the sudanese we did, we did. we didn't expect this conflict to this degree of clashes and fight, honestly, because as rac group has always been part of the military they created by the military and they trained so we thought this kind of political differences and this was what's going on. countries that stage. so i came here and then i was surprised and shocked that we have a massive war in the caphal have a massive war in the capital. i would say that that never happened before . at least never happened before. at least recently, we've been in the last hundred years . this is massive hundred years. this is massive war happening in the capital where the 10 million people live here and is very huge disasters

. and i believe all people at the moment, they they are not safe. but they are some people start thinking and taking the risk of moving and the rest of people the us are staying at home. but situation is absolutely disaster. so just to be really clear , you don't live be really clear, you don't live in sudan normally. you have gone out in sudan normally. you have gone ouf fbere— in sudan normally. you have gone ouf fbere fo— in sudan normally. you have gone out there to visit— in sudan normally. you have gone out there to visit friends- in sudan normally. you have gone out there to visit friends or- out there to visit friends or fonny— out there to visit friends or new now— out there to visit friends or family. how long ago was that forfe— family. how long ago was that fang onu— family. how long ago was that rang and bow— family. how long ago was that tarig and how long have you been in fbe— tarig and how long have you been in fbe oounfry— tarig and how long have you been in the country now— tarig and how long have you been in the country now ? g in the country now? so i, i grew up in— in the country now? so i, i grew up in sudan and i studied in sudan.i up in sudan and i studied in sudan . i moved to up in sudan and i studied in sudan. i moved to uk up in sudan and i studied in sudan . i moved to uk last, up in sudan and i studied in sudan. i moved to uk last, um, about three, four years ago, but at the moment i live in manchester. but my family in sudan and i used to come to see them in my annual leave . can you them in my annual leave. can you tell us how scary has— them in my annual leave. can you tell us how scary has it— 3 can you tell us how scary has it been? nowe— tell us how scary has it been? have you— tell us how scary has it been? have you actually— tell us how scary has it been? have you actually heard gunfire ? have you actually heard gunfire f verb.— have you actually heard gunfire f verb. so— have you actually heard gunfire f verb. so f— have you actually heard gunfire ? yeah. so i have— have you actually heard gunfire ? yeah. so i have seen- have you actually heard gunfire ? 34:33 3 3 have you actually heard gunfire

? / ? yeah. so i have seen myself so i was living . erg 10 or 12km i was living. erg 10 or 12km south to the airport when this started . we expect this to be started. we expect this to be fighting in around the military bases only. but this become massive and we've seen the tanks blocking the roads and there was two missiles, for example , two missiles, for example, yesterday they fell about one kilometre far from my home and they destroyed eight houses and they destroyed eight houses and they kill all the civilian people . so the whole capital is people. so the whole capital is a war zone and it's not safe for you to stay in any point of it. we all the time hear bullet sounds fighting , getting in the sounds fighting, getting in the sky and i know, i know you guys heanng sky and i know, i know you guys hearing the news there is truce happening . and steve is not safe happening. and steve is not safe at all for me. i feel more dangerous at this time because but of this people , they use

but of this people, they use this time to as a tactic. so they they move their their trucks. so they use it even to fight, for example , the pastors fight, for example, the pastors i went to my first home to get more stuff and i was shocked because there is more fire than usual. so it's not safe at all. so you're saying that there's ffobffno— so you're saying that there's more fighting at— so you're saying that there's more fighting at the moment during— more fighting at the moment during fbfs— more fighting at the moment during this the— more fighting at the moment during this the supposed esefre— during this the supposed ceasefire and— during this the supposed ceasefire and that's rendering it ceasefire and that's rendering ff even— ceasefire and that's rendering ff noe— ceasefire and that's rendering it even more dangerous because beobfe— it even more dangerous because oeoofe re— it even more dangerous because people feowng— it even more dangerous because people are leaving to collect ffens— people are leaving to collect ffens or— people are leaving to collect ffens or fo— people are leaving to collect items or to try— people are leaving to collect items or to try and travel out of fbe— items or to try and travel out of fbe oounfry— items or to try and travel out of the country .— items or to try and travel out of the country . yeah. 34:33 3 of the country. yeah. yeah. i'm f-nf — of the country. yeah. yeah. i'm i'm telling you, my experience from the last ceasefire which was three days i think was going on all the time, was the same or even more. so that's me and the sudanese people now. they are not they are not reassured with this ceasefire now, we don't think it true . it is maybe in think it is true. it is maybe in

the news more than in the ground. in the ground. have you have you been contacted- rgo. 3 go. have you have you been contacted by go. 3 go. have you have you been contacted by the foreign— have you been contacted by the foreign office _ have you been contacted by the foreign office to— have you been contacted by the foreign office to try to help you— foreign office to try to help you oef— foreign office to try to help you oef o— foreign office to try to help you oef o plane— foreign office to try to help you get a plane to get out? no, not you get a plane to get out? no, nof of— you get a plane to get out? no, nof of off.— you get a plane to get out? no, nof of off. so— you get a plane to get out? no, not at all. so what— you get a plane to get out? no, not at all. so what we- you get a plane to get out? no, not at all. so what we did is me and my colleague all the nhs workers, british, i think i think we might have lost. i think we might have lost. i think we might have lost him. fretb— think we might have lost him. wen. f— think we might have lost him. wen. f es— think we might have lost him. well, i was just— think we might have lost him. well, i was just thinking about the well, i was just thinking about fbe feef— well, i was just thinking about the fact you've— well, i was just thinking about the fact you've got sudan to of— the fact you've got sudan to none of us are— the fact you've got sudan to none of us are experts on the geography— none of us are experts on the geography of_ none of us are experts on the geography of sudan. let's be bones.— geography of sudan. let's be bonesf. fo— geography of sudan. let's be honest. to the— geography of sudan. let's be honest. to the north is egypt. to honest. to the north is egypt. fo fbe— honest. to the north is egypt. fo fbe wesf— honest. to the north is egypt. to the west-chad- honest. to the north is egypt. to the west chad to the to the west is chad to the nobo— to the west is chad to the right fo— to the west is chad to the right no fbe— to the west is chad to the right, to the east is eritrea to or of— right, to the east is eritrea to or of course, the— right, to the east is eritrea to or of course, the red sea and fbe— or of course, the red sea and fbe oounfry— or of course, the red sea and fbe sounfry rs— or of course, the red sea and the country is cut— or of course, the red sea and the country is cut down the nnnne— the country is cut down the nnnne by— the country is cut down the middle by-river- the country is cut down the middle by river nile. it's middle by the river nile. it's oobffeeny— middle by the river nile. it's oofoeeny .— middle by the river nile. it's politically , geographically, politically, geographically, geopolitically, a very interesting - geopolitically, a very interesting country . in fact. interesting country. in fact. ref-s— interesting country. in fact. nef-s bring— interesting country. in fact. let's bring you— interesting country. in fact. let's bring you in, tom, while we fry— let's bring you in, tom, while we fry eno— let's bring you in, tom, while we try and bring— let's bring you in, tom, while we try and bring tariq back into wsfon— we try and bring tariq back into wby— we try and bring tariq back into wby rs— we try and bring tariq back into vision, why is this— we try and bring tariq back into vision, why is this country it's a vision, why is this country it's e bif— vision, why is this country it's e bff bre— vision, why is this country it's a bit like when— vision, why is this country it's a bit like when we talked about urrefne— a bit like when we talked about urrefne eno— a bit like when we talked about ukraine and the— a bit like when we talked about ukraine and the implications for the ukraine and the implications for fbe resf— ukraine and the implications for fbe resf of— ukraine and the implications for the rest of the— ukraine and the implications for the rest of the world with the fbere. — the rest of the world with the war there. what— the rest of the world with the war there. what implications nfebf— war there. what implications nfobffbere— war there. what implications might there be— war there. what implications might there be for the rest of

fbe— might there be for the rest of fbe woer — might there be for the rest of the world with— might there be for the rest of the world with sudan? �*fo�*oll . the world with sudan? well, it's such— the world with sudan? well, it's sueb en— the world with sudan? well, it's such an important part out of the world. course, africa is the world. of course, africa is one fastest growing parts one of the fastest growing parts of world. are many of the world. there are many countries within africa that are that are going to become more and geopolitically and more geopolitically important . and more geopolitically important. it's something that the government the chinese government has recognised decade recognised in the last decade ahead actually most western ahead of actually most western countries. single countries. the largest single investor in africa is china through their belt and road initiative . they now are i don't initiative. they now are i don't want to use the word control, but i think that's basically an accurate thing to say. they control most of the infrastructure in a of these infrastructure in a lot of these countries and so that influence is really key. and also i think that looking at the transport links, the traditional transport links, the traditional transport links running through africa, that north south corridor, the river nile for example, that's a key thing that is also controlled through sudan. i think of all the trade that goes fbrouen— think of all the trade that goes fnrouon fbef— think of all the trade that goes through that area. tom and if fbfs— through that area. tom and if this becomes— through that area. tom and if this becomes blockaded, the implications— this becomes blockaded, the implications that would have for wowe— implications that would have for woer beefe— implications that would have for world trade already you think ebouf— world trade already you think ebouf fbe— world trade already you think about the problems caused by the russia—ukraine— about the problems caused by the russia—ukraine war all we think

ebouf— russia—ukraine war all we think ebouf fbe— russia—ukraine war all we think about the problems that were euseo— about the problems that were caused -tanker- about the problems that were caused tanker getting caused by one tanker getting sfuer— caused by one tanker getting sfuen fn— caused by one tanker getting sfuen fn fbe— caused by one tanker getting stuck in the suez canal, small fbfnes— stuck in the suez canal, small fbfnes en— stuck in the suez canal, small things can ripple. 3: things can ripple. and particularly— things can ripple. and particularly things that impact trade corridors . and just as we trade corridors. and just as we nenffoneeb— trade corridors. and just as we mentioned, russia— trade corridors. and just as we mentioned, russia .— trade corridors. and just as we mentioned, russia . i- : 3.o” : and just as we mentioned, russia . i know mentioned, russia. i know fbere-s— mentioned, russia. i know fbere-s e— mentioned, russia. i know there's a bit— mentioned, russia. i know there's a bit of— mentioned, russia. i know there's a bit of ambiguity. it's euffe— there's a bit of ambiguity. it's ouffe bere— there's a bit of ambiguity. it's ouffe nenf fo— there's a bit of ambiguity. it's quite hard to tie— there's a bit of ambiguity. it's quite hard to tie down what role fbey-re— quite hard to tie down what role they're playing— quite hard to tie down what role they're playing this, but they're playing in this, but fbere— they're playing in this, but fbere es— they're playing in this, but there was an— they're playing in this, but there was an agreement, i think, wffn— there was an agreement, i think, wffn fbe— there was an agreement, i think, with the previous— there was an agreement, i think, with the previous was it bashar en—asseo— with the previous was it bashar en—asseo .— with the previous was it bashar al—assad , al—assad bashar, thank al—assad, al—assad bashar, thank you.— al—assad, al—assad bashar, thank you. feeb— al—assad, al—assad bashar, thank you. ween fbef— al—assad, al—assad bashar, thank you. yeah, that there— al—assad, al—assad bashar, thank you. yeah, that there was an eoreenenf— you. yeah, that there was an agreement for— you. yeah, that there was an agreement for russia to set up a newef— agreement for russia to set up a newef bese— agreement for russia to set up a newef bese ef— agreement for russia to set up a naval base at the— agreement for russia to set up a naval base at the port in sudan in fbe— naval base at the port in sudan in fbe neo— naval base at the port in sudan in the red sea— naval base at the port in sudan in the red sea ,— naval base at the port in sudan in the red sea , and concession in the red sea, and concession eereenenfs— in the red sea, and concession eoreenenfs on— in the red sea, and concession agreements on gold mining , agreements on gold mining, efeefere— agreements on gold mining, efeefere. as— agreements on gold mining, etcetera. as you— agreements on gold mining, etcetera. as you were saying, its— etcetera. as you were saying, ff-s suen— etcetera. as you were saying, ff-s suon en— etcetera. as you were saying, it's such an africa, such a sounfry— it's such an africa, such a sounfry of— it's such an africa, such a country of such- it's such an africa, such a country of such rich resources. are— country of such rich resources. are nussfe— country of such rich resources. are russia playing politics in nb— are russia playing politics in this because— are russia playing politics in this because the— are russia playing politics in this because the zara aleena group— this because the zara aleena group ee— this because the zara aleena group ouf— this because the zara aleena group are out there as well? wen-f— group are out there as well? aren-f fbey— group are out there as well? aren't they helping? "n3; aren't they helping? so we're seeing— aren't they helping? so we're seefng reports— aren't they helping? so we're seeing reports today that the wagner group are involved in those that are fighting against wagner group are involved in thormilitary re fighting against wagner group are involved in thormilitary mercenariesgainst wagner group are involved in thormilitary mercenaries who rt the military mercenaries who are against are the against ukraine. these are the these so yeah, these are the. so yeah, the wagner are sort of wagner group are a sort of a group within or sort of extra extra to the russian army that are deployed in various parts of the world. they're very, very

brutal. and sort of specialist as well. and it does seem that they have been deployed in sudan with those that are fighting against the sudanese government military. so with the rebels in sudan perhaps stirring up trouble as the wagner group are known to in the world. and this would suggest that russia sees its interests aligned with toppling the sudanese government and how politically potentially difficult is this for the government? because dominic raab effeefwefy— government? because dominic raab effeofwefy nosf— government? because dominic raab effectively lost his— government? because dominic raab effectively lost his job— government? because dominic raab effectively lost his job in— g7 because dominic raab effectively lost his job in the resbufffe— effectively lost his job in the reshuffle after— effectively lost his job in the reshuffle after the fall of nebuf. — reshuffle after the fall of nebuf. ne— reshuffle after the fall of kabul. he was- reshuffle after the fall of kabul. he was on holiday. he non-f— kabul. he was on holiday. he didn't interrupt— kabul. he was on holiday. he didn't interrupt his holiday. fbe— didn't interrupt his holiday. the british— didn't interrupt his holiday. the british ambassador with greef— the british ambassador with greef ffnfng— the british ambassador with great timing. he's on holiday in bnfefn— great timing. he's on holiday in bnfefn eno— great timing. he's on holiday in britain and he— great timing. he's on holiday in britain and he hasn't gone back . fbe— britain and he hasn't gone back . fbe foreign— britain and he hasn't gone back . the foreign secretary is seems to . the foreign secretary is seems fo be— . the foreign secretary is seems fo be on— . the foreign secretary is seems fo be on fbe— . the foreign secretary is seems to be on the money, but is there a to be on the money, but is there e suggesffon— to be on the money, but is there a suggestion, tom,— to be on the money, but is there a suggestion, tom, yet again, we've been a little bit slow off the we've been a little bit slow off fbe new— we've been a little bit slow off the mark there— we've been a little bit slow off the mark there does seem to be be— the mark there does seem to be that suggestion. _ the mark there does seem to be that suggestion. o” 3.o. the mark there does seem to be that suggestion. o” 3 that suggestion. of course, the fees.— that suggestion. of course, the fcdo, the foreign office would push back against that. a lot, saying don't want put saying they don't want to put british there's no british lives while there's no dangen british lives while there's no danger. do know danger. and we do know that there been some trouble with there has been some trouble with some of those airlifts from

other countries as well. before the was in place. i the ceasefire was in place. so i suppose there will be lot of suppose there will be a lot of select committees going over this stuff once it's all said and done. was the right call and done. was it the right call to for the ceasefire before to wait for the ceasefire before getting planes there? should getting planes out there? should have. earlier? have. we have gone earlier? ultimately, it's fair ultimately, i do think it's fair to that the sas operation to say that the sas operation over was very over the weekend was very successful getting out those consular staff . there are, consular staff. there are, however, questions, of course , however, questions, of course, about those who don't work in the british embassy has enough been thought about and done enough for them? yeah, we're got to talk about other things politically on front of politically on the front page of the today, tom. boys will the times today, tom. boys will learn for the times today, tom. boys will learn -for- under. learn respect for women under nebour— learn respect for women under nebour .— learn respect for women under labour. what's— learn respect for women under labour . what's this learn respect for women under labour. what's this about? learn respect for women under labour . what's this about? this labour. what's this about? this is. labour. what's this about? this fs-fron — labour. what's this about? this fs-fron refr— labour. what's this about? this is. from keir starmer. is. this is from keir starmer. forgive— is. this is from keir starmer. forgwe ne— is. this is from keir starmer. forgive me.-boys. is. this is from keir starmer. forgive me. boys will forgive me. he says boys will resbeof— forgive me. he says boys will earn respect women under earn respect for women under reboun— earn respect for women under labour—still- earn respect for women under. labour—still properly labour who cannot still properly nenfffy—fbfs- labour who cannot still properly identify—this is- identify a woman. this is bebour-s— identify a woman. this is labour's push that they labour's new push that they want to the national to change the national curriculum insert of curriculum to insert sort of respect lessons or visits from from people into schools as well. so that at a younger age, boys sort of know, particularly to call out other boys if those

boys are being problematic in their behaviour towards women. and i, i suppose the big question is here how can you do it? there are sensible ways i can see this being implemented. there are sensible ways whereby you can tell boys hang on that that behaviour isn't okay. call out your if they're if out your friend if they're if they're after a girl and they're going after a girl and it's making her uncomfortable or whatever. but i can also see this stretching into the realms of being patronising or perhaps even counterproductive. how it is implemented and how the labour party sees it being implemented is not yet spelled out in a great deal of detail and i think that is what really matters here. and it's odd, isn't it, because on the front page of the daily express, no surprise here, rishi sunak backing the campaign. we've talked about the talked about here on the orogrenne— talked about here on the programme last week with sam usfer— programme last week with sam usfer-beny— programme last week with sam lister daily express lister from the daily express wben— lister from the daily express wben-gof— lister from the daily express when got together, a tory when they got together, a tory woman-labour— when they got together, a tory woman labour woman mp woman mp, labour woman mp fogefber— woman mp, labour woman mp together-about- woman mp, labour woman mp together about he's together to talk about it. he's seyfng— together to talk about it. he's seyfng-wnef- together to talk about it. he's seyfng-wnef e- together to talk about it. he's saying, what a woman is. saying, i know what a woman is. i saying, i know what a woman is. f-brofeef— saying, i know what a woman is. i-protect women's- saying, i know what a woman is. i protect women's rights. i will protect women's rights. so i will protect women's rights. so—ouffure- i will protect women's rights. so_culture wars. i will protect women's rights.i so_culture wars writ so this is the culture wars writ nerge. — so this is the culture wars writ nerge. fbfs— so this is the culture wars writ large. this i absolutely - so this is the culture wars writ large. 3

large. this is absolutely this is the furthest a prime is this is the furthest a prime minister gone in this minister has ever gone in this space. rishi sunak leaning into this campaign miriam cates, this campaign by miriam cates, one conservative mps one of his own conservative mps and duffield, a labour mp. and rosie duffield, a labour mp. although must be said, rosie although it must be said, rosie duffield hasn't been best friends with labour friends with the labour leadership years. but leadership in recent years. but in months, put it in recent months, to put it mildly, there was a big scandal about within in keir about someone within in keir starmer's office accused of briefing against rosie duffield as a member of parliament and that created a great deal of animosity between rosie duffield and keir starmer. so whilst it is true to say this is a cross—party campaign, that it does involve is led by one labour woman mp and one conservative woman mp, i think it's also fair to say that rosie duffield isn't the most representative member of parliament of the parliamentary labour party, but she's brave. she the one who was jeered she was the one who was jeered eno— she was the one who was jeered eno beeneo— she was the one who was jeered and heckled-her— she was the one who was jeered and heckled her own side by and heckled on her own side by nebour— and heckled on her own side by labour-because— and heckled on her own side by labour because she was labour mps because she she was soeang— labour mps because she she was soeang ouf— labour mps because she she was soeang ouf ber— labour mps because she she was spelling out her position on frens— spelling out her position on frens rfgbfs— spelling out her position on trans rights and— spelling out her position on trans rights and the importance of woen— trans rights and the importance of onfy— trans rights and the importance of women only spaces. and if you reoen— of women only spaces. and if you recall—miriam- of women only spaces. and if you recall—miriam cates. recall then, when miriam cates got recall then, when miriam cates goflfo— recall then, when miriam cates goflfo sbeer— recall then, when miriam cates

goflfo sbeen on— recall then, when miriam cates got to speak on the tory got up to speak on the tory gag,— got up to speak on the tory side one— got up to speak on the tory sfoe. of— got up to speak on the tory side, one of her— got up to speak on the tory side, one of her labour benches sat side, one of her labour benches sef rfgbf— side, one of her labour benches sef rfgbf newf— side, one of her labour benches sat right next to _ side, one of her labour benches sat right next to her to try to fnffnfoefe— sat right next to her to try to intimidate her.— sat right next to her to try to intimidate her. yeah, appalling. fbere— intimidate her. yeah, appalling. fbere we— intimidate her. yeah, appalling. fbere e— intimidate her. yeah, appalling. there was a lot— intimidate her. yeah, appalling. there was a lot of— intimidate her. yeah, appalling. there was a lot of controversy about that. that debate got very heated in the of commons heated in the house of commons and was lloyd russell—moyle, and it was lloyd russell—moyle, the for the member of parliament for brighton who says brighton kemptown, who he says he down in that seat while he sat down in that seat while he sat down in that seat while he to go across to he was waiting to go across to his and sometimes labour his side. and sometimes labour mps sit in in that area. his side. and sometimes labour mps sit in in that area . so he mps sit in in that area. so he doesn't say that he was being intimidating. but lots of conservative mps indeed conservative mps and indeed miriam herself said that miriam cates herself said that she felt that it was being entirely intimidatory and he could sat in different could have sat in many different places he decided to sit places and he decided to sit really rather close to her. so she contends that that is a intimidatory behaviour here. so some really big issues here and issues that really do raise passions as well on both sides. so it is a significant moment that the prime minister has chosen to sort of step into this campaign when he could have stepped back. let me ask you, fbougn— stepped back. let me ask you, fbougn wbo— stepped back. let me ask you, though, who taught— : 3 let me ask you,

though, who taught you to be resbeeffuf— though, who taught you to be resoeeffuf fo — though, who taught you to be respectful to women? hg 33r: respectful to women? my mum and dad, who taught you to be respectful to women, parents? yeah. and the idea that you can the yeah. and the idea that you can fbe nee— yeah. and the idea that you can fbe nee fbef— yeah. and the idea that you can the idea that this— yeah. and the idea that you can the idea that this can be eobfeweo— the idea that this can be achieved in— the idea that this can be achieved in the classroom is iusf— achieved in the classroom is iusf sonnet.— achieved in the classroom is just comical. well, do you know wbef— just comical. well, do you know wbef sbe-s— just comical. well, do you know wbef sbe-s gof— just comical. well, do you know what she's got enough do? what she's got enough to do? newen-f— what she's got enough to do? haven't they? do— what she's got enough to do? haven't they? do you - what she's got enough to do? 3 . .3n3;y7’ do you know what haven't they? do you know what nenes— haven't they? do you know what nenes-ano— haven't they? do you know what nenes-ano fo- haven't they? do you know what makes-kind to women?i makes boys be kind to women? boys— makes boys be kind to women? boys-feet— makes boys be kind to women? boys-feet gooe— makes boys be kind to women? boys feel good about boys who feel good about themselves— boys who feel good about themselves they're themselves because they're not fnseeureno—f- themselves because they're not insecure not having insecure and they're not having to insecure and they're not having fo unerrnofne— insecure and they're not having to undermine the— insecure and they're not having to undermine the girls and obey-re— to undermine the girls and fney-re nof— to undermine the girls and fney-re nof-ub- to undermine the girls and they're not up to be they're not growing up to be offffeuff— they're not growing up to be. difficult—they're difficult husbands and they're nof— difficult husbands and they're nob-boys— not. so give boys self—confidence. give them spores— self—confidence. give themj sports, - activities, sports, give them activities, gwe— sports, give them activities, gwe fben— sports, give them activities, gwe fben e— sports, give them activities, give them a sense of who they ewe— give them a sense of who they are, give them— give them a sense of who they are, give them a— give them a sense of who they are, give them a great education.— are, give them a great education. chances are, give them a great education.-chances you education. and chances are you eon-f— education. and chances are you font-fo— education. and chances are you don't-to hammer- education. and chances are you don't-to hammer it- education. and chances are you don't to hammer it down don't have to hammer it down fben— don't have to hammer it down fben-bonf— don't have to hammer it down their-don't hit- don't have to hammer it down their-don't hit a- don't have to hammer it down their don't hit a girl their throats. don't hit a girl fbey— their throats. don't hit a girl fbey won-f— their throats. don't hit a girl they won't want— their throats. don't hit a girl they won't want to if they feel bre— they won't want to if they feel fire-ere — they won't want to if they feel like, - are -experts? l like, who are these experts? fbey-re— like, who are these experts? fbey-re-gofng- like, who are these experts? fbey-re-gofng fo- like, who are these experts? | they're-going to bring they're they're going to bring into tell boys into the classroom to tell boys how with girls. who how to behave with girls. who are well, exactly. and are they? well, exactly. and efso— are they? well, exactly. and efso-fof— are they? well, exactly. and efso-nof of— are they? well, exactly. and also,-lot of it- are they? well, exactly. and also,-lot of it is- are they? well, exactly. and also,-lot of it is you. also, it's a lot of it is you know.— also, it's a lot of it is you know. ff-s— also, it's a lot of it is you know, it's about, you know, eon-f— know, it's about, you know, eon-f-nf— know, it's about, you know, don't-hit girls- know, it's about, you know, don't hit girls teaching don't don't hit girls teaching bow— don't don't hit girls teaching bow fo— don't don't hit girls teaching how to respect— don't don't hit girls teaching how to respect women. part of fbe— how to respect women. part of the curriculum _ how to respect women. part of the curriculum judged on the race. sexual assault, race. you know sexual assault, oonesffo— race. you know sexual assault,i domestic—doesn't domestic abuse. a child doesn't neern— domestic abuse. a child doesn't learn-domestic-inl learn about domestic abuse in a classroom. - learn - learn about domestic abuse in a classroom. learn about classroom. they learn about oonesffo— classroom. they learn about domestic-their- classroom. they learn about domestic their home classroom. they learn about- domestic-their home and domestic abuse in their home and give— domestic abuse in their home and give fben— domestic abuse in their home and give their parents— domestic abuse in their home and give their parents good jobs. so fbey—

give their parents good jobs. so fbey-gooe— give their parents good jobs. so they-good about- give their parents good jobs. so they good about themselves, give their parents good jobs. so tigood good about themselves, give their parents good jobs. so tigood waged about themselves, give their parents good jobs. so tigood wage. they're themselves, give their parents good jobs. so ti good wage. they're ther living s, a good wage. they're not living in a good wage. they're not living fn—fs— a good wage. they're not living fn—fs bow- a good wage. they're not living fn—fs now you- a good wage. they're not living in_is how you fixi in poverty. this is how you fix it. in poverty. this is how you fix ff. -fbfnw— in poverty. this is how you fix it. -think that- in poverty. this is how you fix it. -think that any. in poverty. this is how you fixi it.-think that any man it. i don't think that any man hits a woman because he thinks it's the right thing to do. i don't think any man hits a don't think that any man hits a woman because think woman because he doesn't think it's mean, ultimately, it's bad. i mean, ultimately, yeah, is. it is. it's very yeah, it is. it is. it's very peculiar that we sort of have to saying is law, by the saying this is the law, by the way, don't hit someone else. i think everyone sort of intrinsically there's intrinsically knows that there's other play. yes other factors there at play. yes we grew up to be taught you eon-f— we grew up to be taught you eon-f bif— we grew up to be taught you don't hit anybody unless, as my fee—somebody- don't hit anybody unless, as my dad somebody hits dad said, unless somebody hits you,— dad said, unless somebody hits you-fben— dad said, unless somebody hits you-fben you- dad said, unless somebody hits you,-then you hit- dad said, unless somebody hits you, then you hit them you, son. and then you hit them beer.— you, son. and then you hit them beeblneffer— you, son. and then you hit them back,.matter how— you, son. and then you hit them back, matter how big they back, no matter how big they were,-mean. .hit. back, no matter how big they. were,-mean. .hit them were, quite mean. you hit them beer.— were, quite mean. you hit them beer-nef— were, quite mean. you hit them back.-that was— were, quite mean. you hit them back.-that was not- were, quite mean. you hit them back. that was not bad back. but that was not bad eefwfoe— back. but that was not bad eowee. no.— back. but that was not bad advice. no, it— back. but that was not bad advice. no, it wasn't bad eefwfee— advice. no, it wasn't bad eowee. — advice. no, it wasn't bad advice. but— advice. no, it wasn't bad advice. but-it's. advice. no, it wasn't bad- advice. but-it's don't advice. but again, it's don't hit a girl, hit hit a girl, but don't hit anybody. hit anybody. anybody. no don't hit anybody. don't. don't hit an animal. don't. don't hit an animal. don't a human. just this don't hit a human. just this suggests at keir starmer, suggests to me at keir starmer, flailing for an idea flailing around for an idea doesn't doesn't doesn't doesn't it? doesn't it? doesn't it? it does. it really does. we know— it? it does. it really does. we know we-n— it? it does. it really does. we know we'll change- .7’ l : it really does. we know we'll change the curriculum.— know we'll change the curriculum. taught curriculum. boys will be taught bow— curriculum. boys will be taught bowlresbeof— curriculum. boys will be taught how-respect girls. - curriculum. boys will be taught how respect girls. can we how to respect girls. can we iusf— how to respect girls. can we rue-fben— how to respect girls. can we just-them how- how to respect girls. can we just-them how to- how to respect girls. can we just them how to do just teach them how to do needing.— just teach them how to do reading, arithmetic to reading, writing, arithmetic to sferf— reading, writing, arithmetic to sferf-noor— reading, writing, arithmetic to start-look after- reading, writing, arithmetic to start look after the start with? look after the fenny. — start with? look after thei family. -seems start with? look after the. family. -seems to start with? look after the- family. -seems to be family. well, that seems to be a little controversial when little bit controversial when the said last

the prime minister said last week we should do arithmetic until the age 18. know it until the age of 18. i know it does. actually create does. it does actually create a bit of a contrast there, i suppose, between rishi sunak saying of let's focus on saying sort of let's focus on the core subjects there the on the core subjects there and keir starmer wanting to bnng and keir starmer wanting to bring things into schools. bring more things into schools. i is a theme that i wonder if that is a theme that will continue and teachers will continue and how teachers will continue and how teachers will actually respond to this if more responsibilities, their hearts will sink when they read this. teachers, the teachers, fbey— this. teachers, the teachers, fbey wa— this. teachers, the teachers, fbey wa-fney- this. teachers, the teachers, they will-they will| this. teachers, the teachers,- they will-they will say they will because they will say wbef— they will because they will say wbef-anr— they will because they will sayi what-think-doing? they will because they will say. what-think-doing? what do you think we're doing? were— what do you think we're doing? were-feeebfng— what do you think we're doing? we're-teaching them- we're not teaching them to disrespect exactly disrespect girls. exactly how insulting. course we're insulting. of course we're teaching them to respect women. we male teachers as we need more male teachers as well. the thing, well. that's the thing, especially schools. especially in primary schools. we men working we need more men working in these the boys to these jobs to show the boys to how behave anyway. starmer, you know you want a know where we are. if you want a bit advice. yeah bit of advice. yeah. yeah honestly, ridiculous, 3 l 3: oo “n33 3 “n33 3 honestly, ridiculous, tom. nweys— honestly, ridiculous, tom. nweys gooe— honestly, ridiculous, tom. always good talk to you. always good to talk to you. you-n— always good to talk to you. fou-n-wffn- always good to talk to you. you'll-withiin. always good to talk to you. you'll-withiin a| always good to talk to you. - you'll-withiin a bit, you'll be back with us in a bit, i you'll be back with us in a bit, ffbfnb— you'll be back with us in a bit, ffbfnr. see— you'll be back with us in a bit, i think. see you— you'll be back with us in a bit, i think. see you later, tom. snu— i think. see you later, tom. sffn fo— i think. see you later, tom. still to come,— i think. see you later, tom. still to come, a— i think. see you later, tom. still to come, a race against fine— still to come, a race against fine-fbe— still to come, a race against time the government time because the government has ffneny— time because the government has finally—evacuation.- finally begun that evacuation. fbere-s— finally begun that evacuation. there's-ceasefire. finally begun that evacuation. there's ceasefire in there's a 72 hour ceasefire in suoen— there's a 72 hour ceasefire in suoen for— there's a 72 hour ceasefire in sudan for now.— there's a 72 hour ceasefire in sudan for now. we're going be sudan for now. we're going to be seeking— sudan for now. we're going to be speaking-chairman- sudan for now. we're going to be speaking chairman of the speaking to the chairman of the foreign— speaking to the chairman of thei foreign _committee foreign affairs select committee

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very good morning. welcome to the point with me bev turner and andrew pierce . well, it's andrew pierce. well, it's ffneny— andrew pierce. well, it's finally underway.- ' 3: 37�* 611c; well, it's finally underway. the ' 3: 57�* goo; well, it's finally underway. the evacuation in nberfoun— finally underway. the evacuation in nberfoun. ub— finally underway. the evacuation in khartoum. up to 4000 people, bnfs— in khartoum. up to 4000 people, one souff— in khartoum. up to 4000 people, one soubf be— in khartoum. up to 4000 people, brits could be rescued from war forn— brits could be rescued from war forn buoen— brits could be rescued from war forn suoen .— brits could be rescued from war torn sudan . flights are already torn sudan. flights are already feewng— torn sudan. flights are already feewng fbe— torn sudan. flights are already leaving the country and accused of ebenoonfng— leaving the country and accused of abandoning its— leaving the country and accused of abandoning its own people. is of abandoning its own people. fs fbfs— of abandoning its own people. fs fbfs buge— of abandoning its own people. is this huge rescue— of abandoning its own people. is this huge rescue effort- of abandoning its own people. is this huge rescue effort too little, too late ? why did the little, too late? why did the government wait days to help

them out of the conflict zone? it's question we're going to be putting to a senior mp shortly. and he's pledging to protect women's rights. the prime anfsfer— women's rights. the prime minister declares- women's rights. the prime minister declares he- 3 ” g3 the prime minister declares he knows ebsofufefy— minister declares he knows absolutely what a woman is and wa— absolutely what a woman is and wa ffgbf— absolutely what a woman is and wa ffgbf fo— absolutely what a woman is and will fight to defend single sbees— will fight to defend single soees ,— will fight to defend single spaces. i wonder who he's gefffng— spaces. i wonder who he's gefffng ef— spaces. i wonder who he's getting at leader spaces. i wonder who he's- getting at-leader perhaps getting at labour leader perhaps . anu— getting at labour leader perhaps . one offen— getting at labour leader perhaps . and biden is— getting at labour leader perhaps . and biden is to— getting at labour leader perhaps . and biden is to run- getting at labour leader perhaps . and biden is to run again. yes, you heard that correctly . yes, you heard that correctly. should the leader of the free world be able to do this in his 805? world be able to do this in his 80s? or are you just simply as old as you feel . or as old as old as you feel. or as old as the man you feel like? i know. steady to choose , right? let us steady to choose, right? let us know your thoughts on all of the things we're talking about this morning. gb views at gbnews.uk is the email address. but first of all, here's your news with . of all, here's your news with. tamsin both thank you. good morning— tamsin both thank you. good nornfng fron — tamsin both thank you. good morning from the— 3 both thank you. good morning from the gb newsroom. it's morning from the gb newsroom. ff-s reson— morning from the gb newsroom. ff-s refor- fbe— morning from the gb newsroom. it's 10:01. the prime morning from the gb newsroom. it's10:o1. the prime minister seys— it's10:o1. the prime minister seys e— it's10:o1. the prime minister seys e ferge— it's10:o1. the prime minister says a large scale evacuation of

bnffsn— says a large scale evacuation of british nationals— says a large scale evacuation of british nationals from sudan has begun.— british nationals from sudan has begun. nef— british nationals from sudan has begun. raf flights leaving oufsfoe— begun. raf flights leaving outside the— begun. raf flights leaving outside the capital khartoum wa— outside the capital khartoum wa be— outside the capital khartoum wa be open— outside the capital khartoum will be open to— outside the capital khartoum will be open to british passport bofoers— will be open to british passport holders, with— will be open to british passport holders, with priority being given— holders, with priority being given fo— holders, with priority being gwen fo fbe— holders, with priority being given to the most vulnerable. waef— given to the most vulnerable. nwef anfery— given to the most vulnerable. rival military factions have egreeo— rival military factions have egreeo fo— rival military factions have egreee fo e— rival military factions have agreed to a 72— rival military factions have agreed to a 72 hour ceasefire in the agreed to a 72 hour ceasefire in fbe oounfry— agreed to a 72 hour ceasefire in fbe sounfry .— agreed to a 72 hour ceasefire in the country. hundreds of agreed to a 72 hour ceasefire in the country . hundreds of people the country. hundreds of people beve— the country. hundreds of people bewe freo— the country. hundreds of people bewe free in— the country. hundreds of people have died in the— the country. hundreds of people have died in the conflict befween— have died in the conflict between the _ have died in the conflict between the sudanese army and the paramilitary— between the sudanese army and the paramilitary group rapid suooorf— the paramilitary group rapid support forces.— the paramilitary group rapid support forces. the foreign seorefery— support forces. the foreign secretary james— support forces. the foreign secretary james cleverly, says the secretary james cleverly, says fbe bf— secretary james cleverly, says fbe bf bes— secretary james cleverly, says the uk has been— secretary james cleverly, says the uk has been contacting bnffsn— the uk has been contacting british nationals directly with eweouefonf— british nationals directly with evacuation routes . evacuation routes. the truth is that we cannot predict how the situation on the ground will develop the conflict has, as i say, been unpredictable . it's say, been unpredictable. it's been volatile. we have said that we are unable to provide escorts from where british nationals are to the airhead. they will have to the airhead. they will have to make their own way there, as indeed has been the case for the nationals of other countries. we will maintain this airhead for as long as we can, but the

situation does remain, as i say, dangerous and volatile . a new dangerous and volatile. a new report has found online- g a new report has found online images of sbnoren— report has found online images of children ages— report has found online images of children ages young as seven being— of children ages young as seven befng ebuseo— of children ages young as seven being abused has— of children ages young as seven being abused has risen by almost two being abused has risen by almost fwo fbfros— being abused has risen by almost two thirds since— being abused has risen by almost two thirds since 2020. the fnfernef— two thirds since 2020. the internet watch _ two thirds since 2020. the internet watch foundation also found— internet watch foundation also found fbe— internet watch foundation also found the number of web pages found— found the number of web pages found fo— found the number of web pages found to contain— found the number of web pages found to contain the most efrerne— found to contain the most extreme material has doubled in reenf— extreme material has doubled in reenf yeers— extreme material has doubled in reenf yeers .— extreme material has doubled in recent years , the— extreme material has doubled in recent years , the foundation's recent years, the foundation's obfef— recent years, the foundation's chief executive _ recent years, the foundation's chief executive says sexual fnegery— chief executive says sexual imagery created of children when fbey-re— imagery created of children when fney-re onnne— imagery created of children when they're online, often in their bedrooms— they're online, often in their bedrooms now— they're online, often in their bedrooms now accounts for almost four— bedrooms now accounts for almost four in— bedrooms now accounts for almost four in every— bedrooms now accounts for almost four in every five— bedrooms now accounts for almost four in every five case reported . fbe— four in every five case reported . fbe nsrcc— four in every five case reported . the nspcc called on the gowernnenf— . the nspcc called on the government to _ . the nspcc called on the government to ensure website owners are held— government to ensure website owners are held liable for feang— owners are held liable for feang fo— owners are held liable for failing to tackle child sexual ebuse— failing to tackle child sexual ebuse on— failing to tackle child sexual abuse on their— failing to tackle child sexual abuse on their sites . more than abuse on their sites. more than 8 nnnon— abuse on their sites. more than 8 million households will start reserving— 8 million households will start receiving e— 8 million households will start receiving a £301— 8 million households will start receiving a £301 cost of living suoborf— receiving a £301 cost of living support payment— receiving a £301 cost of living support payment from the gowernrnenf — support payment from the government. today it's the first of bee— government. today it's the first of three payments— government. today it's the first of three payments totalling up to of three payments totalling up fo booe— of three payments totalling up fo fooo for— of three payments totalling up to £900 for those— of three payments totalling up to £900 for those eligible on benefffs— to £900 for those eligible on benefits such— to £900 for those eligible on benefits such as— to £900 for those eligible on benefits such as universal eeefo— benefits such as universal ereenf or— benefits such as universal credit or pension credit. the beoerfnenf— credit or pension credit. the department for— credit or pension credit. the department for work and pensions

will department for work and pensions wa seno— department for work and pensions will send payments— department for work and pensions will send payments automatically and will send payments automatically enf efreeffy— will send payments automatically enf efreoffy fo— will send payments automatically and directly to recipients. bank accounts . the— and directly to recipients. bank accounts . the government is accounts. the government is feunebfng— accounts. the government is launching legal— accounts. the government is launching legal action against the launching legal action against fbe noyef— launching legal action against the royal college of nursing in an the royal college of nursing in en effenbf— the royal college of nursing in en effenbf fo— the royal college of nursing in an attempt to declare a planned soure— an attempt to declare a planned sane in— an attempt to declare a planned sane in ney— an attempt to declare a planned strike in may. unlawful the neeffn— strike in may. unlawful the health secretary says he's regreffuny— health secretary says he's regretfully applying to the high coun— regretfully applying to the high courf fo— regretfully applying to the high court to declare— regretfully applying to the high court to declare the strike unfewfuf— court to declare the strike unfewfuf .— court to declare the strike unlawful . rcn - court to declare the strike unlawful . rcn members court to declare the strike unlawful. rcn members in england are unlawful. rcn members in england planning— unlawful. rcn members in england ofennfng e— unlawful. rcn members in england ofennfng e be— unlawful. rcn members in england are planning a 48 hour walkout at are planning a 48 hour walkout ef fbe— are planning a 48 hour walkout ef fbe sferf— are planning a 48 hour walkout at the start of— are planning a 48 hour walkout at the start of the— are planning a 48 hour walkout at the start of the night shift on abrn. — at the start of the night shift on april- fbe— at the start of the night shift on april. the 30th and a long running— on april. the 30th and a long running dispute— on april. the 30th and a long running dispute over pay. union nebers— running dispute over pay. union rnebers bee— running dispute over pay. union members had previously rejected the government's— members had previously rejected the government's 5% pay offer. fbe— the government's 5% pay offer. fbe unions— the government's 5% pay offer. the union's general secretary, ref— the union's general secretary, ref cunen— the union's general secretary, pat cullen, has— the union's general secretary, pat cullen, has vowed to stand up fo— pat cullen, has vowed to stand up to government— pat cullen, has vowed to stand up to government bullies in soun— up to government bullies in sourf .— up to government bullies in sourf . nore— up to government bullies in court . more than 100 politicians court. more than 100 politicians fron— court. more than 100 politicians fron eouno— court. more than 100 politicians from around the— court. more than 100 politicians from around the world are eeang— from around the world are eeang on— from around the world are calling on the— from around the world are calling on the government to woo— calling on the government to woo ifs— calling on the government to drop its anti—strike bill. 121 oobffefens— drop its anti—strike bill. 121 politicians from _ drop its anti—strike bill. 121 politicians from countries fnefuofng— politicians from countries including australia, france, eerneny— including australia, france, oerneny eno— including australia, france, germany and spain have signed a sfefenenf— germany and spain have signed a statement criticising the legislation. _ statement criticising the legislation. if- statement criticising the legislation. if passed, the bill woufo— legislation. if passed, the bill woubf force— legislation. if passed, the bill would force unions to agree rnfnfrnurn—

would force unions to agree minimum minimum levels of service— minimum minimum levels of serwfoe ounng— minimum minimum levels of service during strikes . the service during strikes. the government— service during strikes. the government says its purpose is to government says its purpose is fo profeef— government says its purpose is no orofeef fbe— government says its purpose is to protect the lives and livelihoods— to protect the lives and livelihoods of- to protect the lives and livelihoods of the public. the cneneenor— livelihoods of the public. the chancellor has— livelihoods of the public. the chancellor has warned the government— chancellor has warned the government can't borrow forever as government can't borrow forever es figures— government can't borrow forever es ffgures reeen— government can't borrow forever as figures reach the fourth bngesf— as figures reach the fourth highest since— as figures reach the fourth highest since records began. the offse— highest since records began. the bfffee for— highest since records began. the office for national— highest since records began. the office for national statistics seys— office for national statistics seys fbef— office for national statistics says that government borrowing iunbeo— says that government borrowing jumped by— says that government borrowing jumped by noe— says that government borrowing jumped by more than £80 billion in fbe— jumped by more than £80 billion in fbe besf— jumped by more than £80 billion in the past financial year. jumped by more than £80 billion in the past financial year . to in the past financial year. to reeon— in the past financial year. to reach £139.2— in the past financial year. to reach £139.2 billion. the chancellor— reach £139.2 billion. the chancellor says it's a consequence- chancellor says it's a consequence of borrowing to help feanes— consequence of borrowing to help feanes eno— consequence of borrowing to help families and businesses through the families and businesses through one oenoenfo— families and businesses through the pandemic and— families and businesses through the pandemic and the ongoing war in urrefne. — the pandemic and the ongoing war in urrefne. nr— the pandemic and the ongoing war in ukraine. mr hunt— the pandemic and the ongoing war in ukraine. mr hunt says the sowernnenf— in ukraine. mr hunt says the government has— in ukraine. mr hunt says the government has a clear plan to euge— government has a clear plan to eussfe oebf— government has a clear plan to refuse febf .— government has a clear plan to reduce debt . meanwhile, grocery reduce debt. meanwhile, grocery fnffeffon— reduce debt. meanwhile, grocery inflation has— reduce debt. meanwhile, grocery inflation has dipped slightly this inflation has dipped slightly fbfs nonfn— inflation has dipped slightly this month, but consumers are sffn— this month, but consumers are st oeyfng— this month, but consumers are still paying more— this month, but consumers are still paying more than this time fesf— still paying more than this time fesf yeer. — still paying more than this time last year. figures— still paying more than this time last year. figures from kantar sbow— last year. figures from kantar sbow fbe— last year. figures from kantar show the rate _ last year. figures from kantar show the rate of— last year. figures from kantar show the rate of which prices rnsreesef— show the rate of which prices increased has— show the rate of which prices increased has slowed down to befo— increased has slowed down to bone from — increased has slowed down to 17.3% from 17.5.— increased has slowed down to 17.3% from 17.5. supermarket own

febef— 17.3% from 17.5. supermarket own febef sefes— 17.3% from 17.5. supermarket own label sales are— 17.3% from 17.5. supermarket own label sales are up— 17.3% from 17.5. supermarket own label sales are up 13.5% year on yeer— label sales are up 13.5% year on yeer wffn— label sales are up 13.5% year on yeer wffn e— label sales are up 13.5% year on yeer wffn e very— label sales are up 13.5% year on year with a very cheap value nne— year with a very cheap value nne soenng— year with a very cheap value line soaring by— year with a very cheap value line soaring by 46. however the group— line soaring by 46. however the consumer group says stretched ffnense— consumer group says stretched ffnense rs— consumer group says stretched finance is still— consumer group says stretched finance is still allowed for a eorf— finance is still allowed for a record breaking— finance is still allowed for a record breaking easter, with 38 nnnon— record breaking easter, with 38 million chocolate— record breaking easter, with 38 million chocolate eggs bought onfne— million chocolate eggs bought onnne grosery— million chocolate eggs bought online grocery store . ocado says online grocery store. ocado says it online grocery store. ocado says ff bfens— online grocery store. ocado says ff bfens fo— online grocery store. ocado says it plans to shut— online grocery store. ocado says it plans to shut its— online grocery store. ocado says it plans to shut its oldest distribution— it plans to shut its oldest distribution centre, affecting erounf— distribution centre, affecting around 2300 _ distribution centre, affecting around 2300 workers. the company seys— around 2300 workers. the company seys ff-s— around 2300 workers. the company seys ff-s gofng— around 2300 workers. the company seys ff-s gofng fo— around 2300 workers. the company says it's going to shift towards roboffs— says it's going to shift towards robotic warehouses. the group are robotic warehouses. the group sfosfng— robotic warehouses. the group are closing the— robotic warehouses. the group are closing the site in hatfield in hertfordshire_ are closing the site in hatfield in hertfordshire later this year wffn— in hertfordshire later this year wffn bfens— in hertfordshire later this year wffn ofens fo— in hertfordshire later this year with plans to open a new eufonefef— with plans to open a new automated warehouse in luton nexf— automated warehouse in luton nexf yeer— automated warehouse in luton nexf yeer .— automated warehouse in luton neof yeer . fbe— automated warehouse in luton next year . the latest hearing in next year. the latest hearing in rnnse— next year. the latest hearing in rrfnse berry-s— next year. the latest hearing in prince harry's legal battles wffn— prince harry's legal battles wffn fbe— prince harry's legal battles wffn fbe bf— prince harry's legal battles with the uk press will take bfese— with the uk press will take ofese ef— with the uk press will take ofese ef fbe— with the uk press will take place at the high court in fonfon— place at the high court in london this— place at the high court in london this morning. the duke of susse— london this morning. the duke of susse rs— london this morning. the duke of susse is suing— london this morning. the duke of sussex is suing news group newseeoos— sussex is suing news group newspapers. the publisher of the sun newspapers. the publisher of the sun enf— newspapers. the publisher of the sun enf fbe— newspapers. the publisher of the sun and the now— newspapers. the publisher of the sun and the now defunct news of the sun and the now defunct news of fbe norff— sun and the now defunct news of fbe norff oer— sun and the now defunct news of the world over alleged unlawful fnforneffon— the world over alleged unlawful information gathering. the beenng— information gathering. the beenng rs—

information gathering. the hearing is expected to last fbree— hearing is expected to last fbree feys— hearing is expected to last three days. journalist sally jones— three days. journalist sally fones seys— three days. journalist sally jones says it's— three days. journalist sally jones says it's a distraction from— jones says it's a distraction from fbe— jones says it's a distraction from the king's— jones says it's a distraction from the king's coronation. berry— from the king's coronation. nerry rs— from the king's coronation. harry is already— from the king's coronation. harry is already made himself oreffy— harry is already made himself pretty “firmwar— harry is already made himself pretty unpopular with a lot of oeobfe— pretty unpopular with a lot of ww“! see— pretty unpopular with a lot of ww“! ff— pretty unpopular with a lot of people see it throwing his fenny— people see it throwing his family under— people see it throwing his family under a— people see it throwing his family under a bus. . family under a bus. it looks as fbougb— family under a bus. it looks as though he is still perhaps trying to keep his links with england, even though meghan and he have pretty much upped sticks and seemed to be basing their life entirely in california , for life entirely in california, for he wants to draw attention to what he sees as wrongdoing by the tabloids, but think it's also going to be a terrible distraction from what ought to be a joyous occasion . you know, be a joyous occasion. you know, the king's coronation just ten days beforehand . the number of days beforehand. the number of books being read by children in the uk rose by almost a quarter last year. research from what fos— last year. research from what fos ee— last year. research from what kids are reading— research from what kids are reading report found it's kids are reading report found ff-s beseuse— kids are reading report found it's because social media trends susn— it's because social media trends susn es— it's because social media trends such as tiktok_ it's because social media trends such as tiktok are— it's because social media trends such as tiktok are helping shape reeffng— such as tiktok are helping shape reeffng bebffs— such as tiktok are helping shape reading habits .— such as tiktok are helping shape reading habits. it— such as tiktok are helping shape reading habits. it found that buffs— reading habits. it found that buffs reef— reading habits. it found that pupils read over 27 million

books— pupils read over 27 million books in— pupils read over 27 million books in the— pupils read over 27 million books in the academic year. fbef-s— books in the academic year. was zero— books in the academic year. that's 24% more— books in the academic year. that's 24% more than the year before— that's 24% more than the year before .— that's 24% more than the year before . for— that's 24% more than the year before . for this— that's 24% more than the year before . for this is— that's 24% more than the year before . for this is gb news. before. for this is gb news. nore— before. for this is gb news. more from— before. for this is gb news. more from me— before. for this is gb news. more from me shortly. now fbougn— more from me shortly. now fnougn ff-s— more from me shortly. now though, it's back to andrew and . bew— . bev well, the evacuation is underway. planes will be taking to the air. it's a large scale evacuation in in khartoum, sudan. british passport holders up to potentially 4000 follows last night's announcement of a 72 hour ceasefire in the country between the two warring factions. although the gentleman that factions. although the gentleman fbef we— factions. although the gentleman fbef we iusf— factions. although the gentleman that we just spoke— factions. although the gentleman that we just spoke to— 3 although the gentleman that we just spoke to there said fbere— that we just spoke to there said fbere es— that we just spoke to there said fbere no— that we just spoke to there said there was no ceasefire that he souff— there was no ceasefire that he souff — there was no ceasefire that he could see. yeah,— there was no ceasefire that he could see. yeah, he- there was no ceasefire that he could see. “n33 3 3: there was no ceasefire that he could see. / 3: could see. yeah, he could hear gunshots close to his home. and he was living not far from the airport. the foreign secretary, james he's james cleverly, he's he's confirmed that british nationals are contacted directly are being contacted directly with evacuation routes . so let's with evacuation routes. so let's speak to the chairwoman- 3 o3 so let's speak to the chairwoman of the foreign— speak to the chairwoman of the foreign affairs— speak to the chairwoman of the foreign affairs select committee, - foreign affairs select committee, alicia kearns. good

morning.— committee, alicia kearns. good morning, alicia— committee, alicia kearns. good morning, alicia .— committee, alicia kearns. good morning, alicia . thank you so morning, alicia. thank you so nusn— morning, alicia. thank you so nusnliofnfng— morning, alicia. thank you so much joining what's your much for joining us. what's your assessment situation this assessment of the situation this morning— assessment of the situation this nornfng f — assessment of the situation this nornfng f f— assessment of the situation this morning ? i think— assessment of the situation this morning ? i think we- assessment of the situation this morning ? morning? i think we have every reason to be very optimistic, but we also have to be very cautious. this is good news. it is a ceasefire that is the best news for the people of sudan who need an aid, who need need humanitari an aid, who need water, and medical water, who need food and medical support. gives us support. but it also gives us a chance evacuate our people chance to evacuate our people safely. but as per the person you spoke who said they are you spoke to who said they are still firing out, still hearing shots firing out, this is not easy. this remains complex . the reality is the two complex. the reality is the two warring sides are not well organised and well managed and well trained militaries. they are militia groups. they are people who be full of those who will trying to be well, who will be trying to be well, who will be trying to be well, who will high on the joy of will be high on the joy of looting. we have those who will be breakaway who may be breakaway groups who may continue to try and inflict atrocities. so this isn't simple. though we do have simple. even though we do have this overarching good news, alicia, we think there could be up to 4000 people there with british passports. some of them are british passports. some of them fuef— british passports. some of them are dual nationals— british passports. some of them are dual nationals .— british passports. some of them are dual nationals. is- l 3 some of them are dual nationals. is there a snowy—

are dual nationals. is there a ononfy beref— are dual nationals. is there a priority here? do— are dual nationals. is there a priority here? do we give ononfy— priority here? do we give ononfy fo— priority here? do we give priority to people who are bnffsn— priority to people who are bnffsn or— priority to people who are british or are— priority to people who are british or are or should they all british or are or should they en be— british or are or should they all be treated— british or are or should they all be treated the same once you— all be treated the same once you've removed— all be treated the same once you've removed women and sberen— you've removed women and sberen enf— you've removed women and children and elderly people who, of course are the— children and elderly people who, of course are the obvious ononfy— of course are the obvious ononfy f — of course are the obvious priority ? :: "n3; priority? indeed, you're absolutely right. it's the foreign secretary said we will evacuate british passport holders. that will be who is able to be evacuated . but we're able to be evacuated. but we're the priority for women with children. many children. there are many families out there because it was but also those are was eid, but also those who are disabled, unwell or disabled, medically unwell or old. so the key is now making sure we can get those sure that we can get those vulnerable communities first and foremost evacuation foremost to the evacuation points. this is still going points. but this is still going to be a very complex few days. alicia, do we have any idea why fbfs— alicia, do we have any idea why this conflict— alicia, do we have any idea why this conflict escalated at this fine— this conflict escalated at this ffnef ff-s— this conflict escalated at this time? it's been— this conflict escalated at this time? it's been rumbling on for nonfbs— time? it's been rumbling on for nonfbs. one— time? it's been rumbling on for months. one of— time? it's been rumbling on for months. one of the individuals fbef— months. one of the individuals fbef we— months. one of the individuals fbef we spoke— months. one of the individuals that we spoke to _ months. one of the individuals that we spoke to this morning wbo— that we spoke to this morning wbo rs— that we spoke to this morning wbo fs ouf— that we spoke to this morning who is out there,— that we spoke to this morning who is out there, who'd gone out to who is out there, who'd gone out fo wsff— who is out there, who'd gone out to visit friends,— who is out there, who'd gone out to visit friends, said— who is out there, who'd gone out to visit friends, said it it iusf— to visit friends, said it it iusf son— to visit friends, said it it iusf sorf of— to visit friends, said it it just sort of happened overnight and just sort of happened overnight enf fbef— just sort of happened overnight and that everybody in the sounfry— and that everybody in the sounfry es— and that everybody in the country was surprised by the essefeffon— country was surprised by the essefeffon .— country was surprised by the escalation , but— country was surprised by the escalation , but does appear to escalation, but does appear to be fbe— escalation, but does appear to be fbe sese— escalation, but does appear to be fbe — escalation, but does appear to be the case. and— escalation, but does appear to be the case. '3: escalation, but does appear to be the case. ' 3: 3 be the case. and this afternoon, i'll be holding an evidence

session of the foreign affairs committee to delve more deeply into really not into that. could we really not have this ? but the have foreseen this? but the reality is we were moving towards peaceful transition towards a peaceful transition and then the egos of two men who are organised and in control of militia groups that have previously committed war crimes decided that they were no longer happy to be part of a rules based , organised diplomatic based, organised diplomatic process. they wanted control. this all about ego. this is this is all about ego. this is all about power. this is about control. unfortunately , it control. and unfortunately, it is the joy of inflicting is about the joy of inflicting violence on civilians. what about the fact that foreign office officials, diplomat s have already been were removed? first, charles moore , writing in first, charles moore, writing in the first, charles moore, writing in fbe beny— first, charles moore, writing in the daily telegraph, is saying, esfueny— the daily telegraph, is saying, esfueny fbey— the daily telegraph, is saying, actually they should been actually they should have been like actually they should have been fire—on— actually they should have been nne—on e- actually they should have been nne—on e sno- actually they should have been like on a ship. they like the captain on a ship. they sbouff—fesf- like the captain on a ship. they should _ last to - like the captain on a ship. theyi should—last to make should have stayed last to make sure-rs— should have stayed last to make sure-rs en— should have stayed last to make sure-is an orderly- sure there is an orderly transition. _ sure there is an orderly transition. .he- sure there is an orderly transition. he includes in transition. and he includes in fbef— transition. and he includes in that-british— transition. and he includes in that british ambassador that the british ambassador soffen— that the british ambassador soffen-fs— that the british ambassador solder,-is giles- that the british ambassador solder, is giles lever, solder, who is giles lever, wbo-s— solder, who is giles lever, who's actually— solder, who is giles lever, who's actually on holiday here in bnfefn. — who's actually on holiday here in britain. and— who's actually on holiday here in britain. and hasn't gone back . so— in britain. and hasn't gone back . so sies— in britain. and hasn't gone back . so snes b— in britain. and hasn't gone back . so giles is no— in britain. and hasn't gone back . so giles is no longer- in britain. and hasn't gone back . so giles is no longer on holiday. he has been helping run the. yeah, but he's here, not fbere. — the. yeah, but he's here, not fbere. fbe— the. yeah, but he's here, not there. the crisis— yeah, but he's here, not there. the crisis response he

is. but actually the foreign secretary has said that having him here in london has made a massive difference. having that person with on the ground understanding reality is understanding the reality is that normally i've been trained how to run evacuations. i used to train other governments how to train other governments how to do evacuations, civilians. we would out. that is what would be lost out. that is what is ingrained within me that you are the last person on the plane . situation, . however, in this situation, there was an explicit and immediate serious threat to the lives of our diplomatic staff and to those of any diplomatic office within khartoum that is why you saw all of our allied partners decide to withdraw their diplomats in immediately, because the threat was so severe. and at that point, the threat to them was far, far more severe than the threat to british nationals . however, that british nationals. however, that is not to say that we will not see now foreign office staff deploying alongside military deploying alongside the military what rapid deployment what we call rapid deployment teams be helping to get teams who will be helping to get british nationals to safety. do you think the foreign office advice yesterday was the right advice yesterday was the right advice to people to stay indoors advice yesterday was the right advito to people to stay indoors advice yesterday was the right advito to pthome? because)ors and to stay home? because i heard andrew— and to stay home? because i

heard andrew mitchell- 33: 7 because i heard andrew mitchell , the heard andrew mitchell, the afnsen— heard andrew mitchell, the afnsen-on - heard andrew mitchell, the african -on the - heard andrew mitchell, the african on the radio , african minister on the radio, enf— african minister on the radio, enf be— african minister on the radio, enf be es— african minister on the radio, enf be ff— african minister on the radio, and he was it seemed to me, nfsse— and he was it seemed to me, nfsse|ne— and he was it seemed to me, alissa he straining at the alissa, he was straining at the feesn— alissa, he was straining at the feesnlsubborf— alissa, he was straining at the leash support that line . leash to support that line. foob— leash to support that line. noon. ff— leash to support that line. noon. n b— leash to support that line. look, it is incredibly- leash to support that line. look, it is incredibly dangerous for anyone to be moving around sudan before the ceasefire and even now it remains difficult. it is not going to be easy for people to get to the airstrip . people to get to the airstrip. so the reason the foreign office gave that advice is that people were bunker down and to were able to bunker down and to hide and were least likely hide and they were least likely to killed or shot. the to be killed or shot. the reality was that the foreign office was able to give that advice they that we advice because they knew that we were cusp of getting were on the cusp of getting a ceasefire people like ceasefire agreement. people like myself i not know that. and myself, i did not know that. and thatis myself, i did not know that. and that is i was urging for an that is why i was urging for an evacuation, we saw evacuation, because we only saw things getting from here. things getting worse from here. so understand entirely that so i understand entirely that for some people it would seem. why you tell people to why would you tell people to stay somewhere dangerous? but if we knew we were likely to be able an evacuation able to announce an evacuation in short term and if we knew in the short term and if we knew the streets were that dangerous , it is , the reality is it is safest for to stay in place. for people to stay in place. alissa, how significant is it fbef— alissa, how significant is it fbef fbe— alissa, how significant is it that the russian wagner group

are that the russian wagner group ouf— that the russian wagner group ouf rn— that the russian wagner group are out in sudan— that the russian wagner group are out in sudan helping the rebefs— are out in sudan helping the rebefs enf— are out in sudan helping the rebels and the— are out in sudan helping the rebels and the fact that russia bewe — rebels and the fact that russia bewe been— rebels and the fact that russia have been clear— rebels and the fact that russia have been clear that they want a newef— have been clear that they want a newef bese— have been clear that they want a newef bese rn— have been clear that they want a naval base in the— have been clear that they want a naval base in the red sea? what sbouff— naval base in the red sea? what sbouff we— naval base in the red sea? what should we read— naval base in the red sea? what should we read into that? what we sbouff— should we read into that? what we sbouff be— should we read into that? what we should be very— should we read into that? what we should be very clear that nussfe— we should be very clear that nussfe rs— we should be very clear that nussfe is e— we should be very clear that russia is a destabilising force across africa— russia is a destabilising force across africa and— russia is a destabilising force across africa and particularly wffbfn— across africa and particularly within sudan. _ across africa and particularly within sudan. g co. within sudan. the wagner group has one objective, and that is to help failing regimes and states stay in power. that is what they do . and luckily, what they do. and luckily, people starting to cotton on people are starting to cotton on to the fact that the wagner group is not working in the interests of civilians or anyone else. we've seen this before from when wanted from russia when they wanted a port syria, got it and port in syria, they got it and they that in to have they used that in order to have influence control within the influence and control within the region. it is the same interest here, but we should be very clear russia is only acting clear russia is only ever acting in their interests and no in their own interests and no one else is. now we've got bnffsn— one else is. now we've got british military— now we've got british military arnie in sudan. nfsfe— british military arnie in sudan. nfsfe fo— british military arnie in sudan. nfsfe fo fbey— british military arnie in sudan. alicia do they leave when the finer— alicia do they leave when the ffnef frene— alicia do they leave when the final plane leaves with civilians— final plane leaves with civilians ? _ final plane leaves with civilians ? 34:33 mg final plane leaves with— civilians ? yes. my understanding civilians? yes. my understanding is that we will not be leaving a footprint within sudan. it is not assessed to be safe enough and at the moment we do have

and at the moment we do not have and at the moment we do not have a tasking an operation for a tasking or an operation for our to perform sudan our military to perform in sudan . so, yes, i would expect that we withdraw all troops. we would withdraw all troops. so that mean we are then so does that mean we are then enowfng— so does that mean we are then enowfnglwe-re— so does that mean we are then allowing we're allowing allowing it we're allowing nussfe— allowing it we're allowing nussfelfne— allowing it we're allowing russia the group, allowing it we're allowing. russiaithe-group, if allowing it we're allowing- russiaithe-group, if you russia, the wagner group, if you likew— russia, the wagner group, if you fire-fo— russia, the wagner group, if you brelfo fere— russia, the wagner group, if you like,.to take over,— russia, the wagner group, if you like, to take over, get a like, to, to take over, get a foofboff— like, to, to take over, get a foothold in _ like, to, to take over, get a foothold in there? no, not nesesserny— foothold in there? no, not necessarily so. - foothold in there? no, not necessarily so. 7 necessarily so. russia has been operating here for a while. and at the same time, we were moving towards a peaceful transition. the ceasefire being announced is actually just the start of the hard work. so over the next 72 hours, diplomats across the world, it seems to be led by the american uns, will be working incredibly hard to work out what happens hours. so happens after those 72 hours. so although we all breathe a massive sigh relief that massive sigh of relief that there is a temporary cessation to hostilities as the to hostilities. as for the diplomats hard work is now diplomats that hard work is now to sure that do not see to make sure that we do not see a to violence. are you a return to violence. are you confident this one confident we've got this one better if you like , than better answer, if you like, than we did with the fall of kabul? i appreciate the taliban got info— i appreciate the taliban got no rebuf— i appreciate the taliban got into kabul much quicker than exoesfef— into kabul much quicker than ewbesfef .— into kabul much quicker than eooesfef . buf— into kabul much quicker than expected , but there a lot of expected, but there was a lot of snffsfsn. — expected, but there was a lot of criticism. alicia _ expected, but there was a lot of criticism. alicia not— expected, but there was a lot of criticism. alicia not least from oeobfe— criticism. alicia not least from new“! bre— criticism. alicia not least from new“! use you— criticism. alicia not least from people like you, because we left bebfnf— people like you, because we left bebfnflneny—

people like you, because we left behind many afghan behind so many afghan interpreters— behind so many afghan- interpreters _ life, interpreters who risked life, nnb— interpreters who risked life, nnb. fben— interpreters who risked life, limb, their families to work for fbfs— limb, their families to work for fbfs sounfry— limb, their families to work for fbfs sounfry. — limb, their families to work for this country . yeah,- limb, their families to work for this country . 34:33 3 limb, their families to work for this country . / limb, their families to work for this country. / o this country. yeah, i think it is a very different situation in afghanistan. we have months where we could have started to remove those to whom we owed a debt and the crisis was made. so acute because the americans pulled the rug out from under us. so now we have a very different situation ahead of us. the why have the the reason why i have the foreign committee foreign affairs committee holding hearing on this this holding a hearing on this this afternoon is because we don't know because over know the answers, because over the months, there have the last few months, there have not being not been warning bells being rung. been rung. people have not been lobbying me chair, the lobbying me as chair, the foreign affairs committee, to look so we now need to look at sudan. so we now need to learn about sudan. i'll learn a lot about sudan. i'll put up. i am most put my hands up. i am most certainly expert the certainly not an expert on the country and need to work out country and we need to work out where we go from here and what can be achieved. and alicia, can we-fefr— can be achieved. and alicia, can we-fen ebouf— can be achieved. and alicia, can we-talk about another- we just talk about another fobfsf— we just talk about another foofsf ff-s— we just talk about another topic? it's that— we just talk about another topic? it's that based labour enf— topic? it's that based labour enf fbe— topic? it's that based labour and the conservatives have both sebfng— and the conservatives have both sebfng fbe— and the conservatives have both seizing the gender— and the conservatives have both seizing the gender identity bofoss— seizing the gender identity politics debate . we've got rishi politics debate. we've got rishi suner— politics debate. we've got rishi suner seyfng— politics debate. we've got rishi sunak saying that he knows what a woman is and— sunak saying that he knows what a woman is and that he will

supporf— a woman is and that he will suooon woen— a woman is and that he will support women only spaces . and support women only spaces. and gof— support women only spaces. and gof neb— support women only spaces. and we've got keir starmer saying fbef— we've got keir starmer saying fbef be— we've got keir starmer saying fbef be wa— we've got keir starmer saying that he will teach boys in classrooms— that he will teach boys in classrooms to _ that he will teach boys in classrooms to respect girls . classrooms to respect girls. nnef— classrooms to respect girls. wbef ee— classrooms to respect girls. what are your— classrooms to respect girls. what are your thoughts on this rssue— what are your thoughts on this f— what are your thoughts on this f fbey-re— what are your thoughts on this issue ? they're both issue? they're both appropriating these topics and mering— appropriating these topics and making political— appropriating these topics and making political capital out of fben — making political capital out of fben fofey— making political capital out of them today, aren't they ? 34:33 3 them today, aren't they? yeah. neu— them today, aren't they? yeah. nen. noon— them today, aren't they? yeah. well, look, it's— them today, aren't they? yeah. well, look, it's very— them today, aren't they? yeah. well, look, it's very simple for me. i'm a libertarian. people deserve to live their lives freely with a little state intervention as possible . intervention as possible. however, when they cross a line or they put people at risk, the state should come down on them like of bricks and like a tonne of bricks and protect in need. are the protect those in need. are the foremost duty of any government. is people. so is to protect people. so therefore, will is to protect people. so therefo be will is to protect people. so therefo be a will is to protect people. so therefo be a need will is to protect people. so therefo be a need forivill is to protect people. so therefo be a need for some single always be a need for some single sex spaces. there will always be the need for certain protections. for example , in protections. for example, in prison, foremost duty protections. for example, in prto n, foremost duty protections. for example, in prto women foremost duty protections. for example, in prto women who'veremost duty protections. for example, in prto women who've beenrt duty is to women who've been imprisoned they are imprisoned to make sure they are not revictimized or victims of new crimes. don't think new crimes. and i don't think this complex . i think we this is that complex. i think we have focus on making have to really focus on making sure we're traumatising the sure we're not traumatising the vulnerable, we're also vulnerable, but we're also maximise housing freedoms and minimising intervention of minimising the intervention of the within our lives. the state within our lives. fantastic one more question. can you be— fantastic one more question. can you be our—

fantastic one more question. can you be newf— fantastic one more question. can you be our next prime— 3 one more question. can you be our next prime minister, bfeesef— you be our next prime minister, bfeesef f— you be our next prime minister, ofeesef f foff— you be our next prime minister, please? i told you— you be our next prime minister, please? i told you you'd like new — please? i told you you'd like new fw— please? i told you you'd like be. fun nof— please? i told you you'd like her. i'm not sure- please? i told you you'd like her. i'm not sure the- please? i told you you'd like her. 3.o. her. i'm not sure the country would be looking forward to that. oh, i think would. that. oh, i think we would. nfsfe— that. oh, i think we would. alicia before— that. oh, i think we would. alicia before you- oh, i think we would. alicia before you came on, i serf— alicia before you came on, i seff fo— alicia before you came on, i seff fo bew— alicia before you came on, i said to bev, you're really going to said to bev, you're really going fo nre— said to bev, you're really going to like alicia— said to bev, you're really going to like alicia kearns. she's reeny—sbe- really, really good. she just said, i'm libertarian. i want said, i'm a libertarian. i want a state. unless said, i'm a libertarian. i want a-state. unless you- said, i'm a libertarian. i want a-state. unless you doi a small state. unless you do sonefbfng— a small state. unless you do something wrong— a small state. unless you do something wrong and then i'll come down heavily on you. you're feang— come down heavily on you. you're fefrfng-fenguege. — talking my language. alicia neens— talking my language. alicia kearns-voice_ talking my language. alicia kearns voice common kearns the voice of common -on enf- kearns the voice of common sense. -on and see. kearns the voice of commoni sense. -on and see us kearns the voice of common- sense. -on and see us again. sense. come on and see us again. alicia that's alicia alicia that's great. alicia kearns the chairman of kearns she is the chairman of the commons affairs the commons foreign affairs select a select committee and she is a conservative mp rutland. we conservative mp in rutland. we were same necklace conservative mp in rutland. we wewell, same necklace conservative mp in rutland. we wewell, you same necklace conservative mp in rutland. we wewell, you see. same necklace conservative mp in rutland. we wewell, you see. no,ie necklace conservative mp in rutland. we wewell, you see. no, no, acklace conservative mp in rutland. we wewell, you see. no, no, she'se as well, you see. no, no, she's great actually. and really good. there's i we there's some great i mean, we all moan politicians . most all moan about politicians. most of are good. you of them are pretty good. you know, working. this is the fbfng. — know, working. this is the thing. whenever- 3g this is the thing. whenever i've said this before.— thing. whenever i've said this before, didn't— thing. whenever i've said this before, didn't i?— thing. whenever i've said this before, didn't i? when have before, didn't i? when we have some—nerf- before, didn't i? when we havei some—hard working some really good, hard working sonserwefwe— some really good, hard working conservative—on. conservative mps on this, on fbfs— conservative mps on this, on fbfs-f-n— conservative mps on this, on this-i'm always- conservative mps on this, on this i'm always impressed this show, i'm always impressed fbef— this show, i'm always impressed fbef fbey-re— this show, i'm always impressed that they're talking proper conservative _ that they're talking proper conservative capital conservative with a capital c fenguege— conservative with a capital c language-then- conservative with a capital c language. then you've got language. and then you've got nsbf—fereny- language. and then you've got- rishi—jeremy-how rishi sunak and jeremy hunt. how nusn— rishi sunak and jeremy hunt. how nusn-gfwng— rishi sunak and jeremy hunt. how nusn-gfwng ouf- rishi sunak and jeremy hunt. how much giving out today rishi sunak and jeremy hunt. how mipeople giving out today rishi sunak and jeremy hunt. how mipeople who've/ing out today rishi sunak and jeremy hunt. how mipeople who've got out today rishi sunak and jeremy hunt. how mipeople who've got outmoney? to people who've got no money? were— to people who've got no money? were gofng— to people who've got no money? we're going-come— to people who've got no money? we're going come on to that we're going to come on to that in we're going to come on to that fn—we- in a minute. actually, we serfefnfy— in a minute. actually, we certainly are,— in a minute. actually, we certainly are, but first certainly are, cause but first of-ere— certainly are, cause but first of-ere we— certainly are, cause but first of are we talking about

of all, are we talking about fbef— of all, are we talking about fbef — of all, are we talking about that now? no,— of all, are we talking about that now? \o "n3; of all, are we talking about that now? no "n3; 3rg that now? no, we're talking about no, we're going back to sudan. i think we're going to get from dear sudan. i think we're going to get me from dear sudan. i think we're going to get me from from dear sudan. i think we're going to get me from pronunciation. forgive me from pronunciation. go on. you have a go at that. sara al—khalifa, who's been running—gefl sara al—khalifa, who's beeni running—get the running a petition to get the gowernnenf— running a petition to get the government help people stuck government to help people stuck in government to help people stuck fn-nre— government to help people stuck fn-nre ber— government to help people stuck in-like her mum. - government to help people stuck in like her mum. in sudan like her mum. hello. hi. in sudan like her mum. hello. nf. soof— in sudan like her mum. hello. hi. good morning,— in sudan like her mum. hi. good morning, sara. thank you— hi. good morning, sara. thank you for— hi. good morning, sara. thank you for nengfng— hi. good morning, sara. thank you for hanging your mum is you for hanging on. your mum is out you for hanging on. your mum is ouf—fen- you for hanging on. your mum is ouf—fen us- out there in sudan. tell us wbef-s— out there in sudan. tell us what's happening. so what's what's happening. um, so what's been— what's happening. um, so what's been-ef— what's happening. um, so what's been-ef fbe— what's happening. um, so what's been at the moment in been going on at the moment in sufen— been going on at the moment in sufen rs— been going on at the moment in sufen is es— been going on at the moment in sufen is es of— been going on at the moment in sudan is as of april 15th, fbef-s— sudan is as of april 15th, fbef-s-fne- sudan is as of april 15th, that's-the civil- sudan is as of april 15th, that's the civil war sudan is as of april 15th,- that's-the civil war broke that's when the civil war broke out that's when the civil war broke ouf befween — that's when the civil war broke ouf befween .— that's when the civil war broke out between , um,— that's when the civil war broke out between , um, the r aslef. out between, um, the r aslef. so out between, um, the r aslef. so fbe— out between, um, the r aslef. so fbe off— out between, um, the r aslef. so the old regime— out between, um, the r aslef. so the old regime and- out between, um, the r aslef. so the old regime and they're fighting against the sudanese military in order to take over the country and pull the country back into the old regime, which is in the country. once and from there, the amount of damage that's been inflicted on to the country like on the weekend and, um, the opposing force they release most of the prisoners that are on death row, over 10,000 prisoners back onto the streets and we're talking like the worst humans you could think

of like child rapists, the worst human beings you can. it's the worst situation anyone could possibly be in. you must be terrified . you must be terrified. you must be absolutely— ”o: you must be absolutely terrified . have you absolutely terrified. have you lived— absolutely terrified. have you lived in— absolutely terrified. have you lived in sudan— absolutely terrified. have you lived in sudan yourself? have you— lived in sudan yourself? have you been— lived in sudan yourself? have you been bom— lived in sudan yourself? have you been born and bred here in the um — you been born and bred here in the um |_ you been born and bred here in the the . we— you been born and bred here in the uk? i was born- you been born and bred here in the uk? a“: : you been born and bred here in the uk? 3: : “ the uk? i was born and bred in the uk? i was born and bred in the uk, yes, but i've gone to sudan. um a few times in my life to go see my dad's family. okay. but your mum has gone to go see my dad's family. - okay. but your mum has gone out there— okay. but your mum has gone out there tet— okay. but your mum has gone out there tor a— okay. but your mum has gone out there for a holiday,— okay. but your mum has gone out there for a holiday, has she? she— there for a holiday, has she? she hash-t— there for a holiday, has she? she hasn't gone— there for a holiday, has she? she hasn't gone out- there for a holiday, has she? she hasn't gone out there for a holiday. she has gone out there because her father, um, fell very, very ill to the point where we thought he was going to die. so that's why my mother left the country to go and visit him. have you been able to speak to here— him. have you been able to speak to here hete— him. have you been able to speak to here have you— him. have you been able to speak to her? have you been— “ have you been able to speak to her? have you been able to sheet— to her? have you been able to sheet to— to her? have you been able to sheet to here— to her? have you been able to speak to her? have c speak to her? have i haven't spoken— speak to her? have i haven't spoken to her in a few days properly because there's no power. the wifi has been cut. right. and if you do get the chance her, it's for chance to speak to her, it's for 10s. say, i love ios. and she'll just say, i love you. every conversation we have, it's like the last one we'll ever have with each other. well, of the

well, best of luck. the evacuations— well, best of luck. the evacuations underway. you're hehhe—hel evacuations underway. you're hehhg—he eh| evacuations underway. you're - hehhg—he eh hoping your mum will be on one of hoping your mum will be on one et these— hoping your mum will be on one of those planes. _ hoping your mum will be on one of those planes. i'm— hoping your mum will be on one of those planes. “g of those planes. i'm hoping i'm assured that she'll be on one of those planes. she's a british national, it's the national, and it's the government's bring government's job to bring them back. well will you keep government's job to bring them batposted, well will you keep government's job to bring them batposted, welland. you keep government's job to bring them batposted, welland letu keep government's job to bring them batposted, welland let useep government's job to bring them batposted, welland let us know us posted, sarah and let us know when she's. she's home safe and wet.— when she's. she's home safe and teeth wet— when she's. she's home safe and wet wet towe— when she's. she's home safe and well. we'd love to— when she's. she's home safe and well. we'd love to .to- “ she's home safe and well. we'd love to to you well. we'd love to talk to you teeth— well. we'd love to talk to you teeth-ht— well. we'd love to talk to you again,-al khalifa- well. we'd love to talk to you again, al khalifa there. again, sarah al khalifa there. hee— again, sarah al khalifa there. he-e running— again, sarah al khalifa there. he's running a— again, sarah al khalifa there. he's running a petition. can you theghe— he's running a petition. can you imagine-desperate- he's running a petition. can you imagine desperate you'd imagine how desperate you'd teete — imagine how desperate you'd teete -he- imagine how desperate you'd| feel? -no internet, feel? well, and no internet, which how the foreign which is how the foreign office's to be, to office's meant to be, to contacting a of people in contacting a lot of people in khartoum evacuate them the khartoum to evacuate them by the internet. the internet internet. but the internet is down. unbelievable. and phone lines poor. what a lines are very poor. what a mess. now, prince harry, dear me, we to talk about me, we have to talk about meghan. suppose. his latest meghan. i suppose. his latest battle press . battle with the british press. there's legal arguments in the high court today. it's with the publishers of sun over publishers of the sun over allegations hacking . allegations of phone hacking. that's right. he's aiming to ethe— that's right. he's aiming to strike strike— that's right. he's aiming to strike strike out— that's right. he's aiming to strike strike out the claims hete— strike strike out the claims mete tw— strike strike out the claims mete tw the— strike strike out the claims made by the prince and hugh grant— made by the prince and hugh grant egahet— made by the prince and hugh grant against the sun newspaper, etguhg— grant against the sun newspaper, etguhg thet— grant against the sun newspaper, etguhg that they— grant against the sun newspaper, arguing that they should have taken. — arguing that they should have taken. whet— arguing that they should have taken. what am— arguing that they should have taken. what am i talking about? they— taken. what am i talking about? thew ten-t— taken. what am i talking about? they don't make— taken. what am i talking about? they don't make any sense the ether— they don't make any sense the other wew— they don't make any sense the other way around. ho they don't make any sense the other way around. \o they don't make any sense the other way around. ho other way around. no, sorry. the publishers the and the publishers of the sun and the late the world depher late news of the world depher trying to claims

trying to get these claims struck out because they said this. historic stuff. this. this is historic stuff. and are time limits, ages. and there are time limits, ages. this years cameron yes . this is years ago. cameron yes. yeah, so the sun's yeah, absolutely. so the sun's lawyers that prince lawyers are arguing that prince harry has brought these allegations way too late. a allegations way too late. it's a very similar situation to what we last month with we had last month with associated newspapers the associated newspapers and the mail, course , prince harry mail, of course, prince harry is suing and the mail on suing the mail and the mail on sunday publishers. but pretty much same thing, same much the same thing, the same allegations, the allegations of phone private phone hacking, paying private investigators to illegally tap phones and listen to voicemails and about particularly about his relationships in the early 2000. this one for the three day preliminary hearing that we've got coming up is specifically due about allegations from the sun newspaper about the sun newspaper lawyers for the sun newspaper. in fact, a spokesperson has said that they do not accept liability or make any admissions to the allegations . as we reached the allegations. as we reached the tail of the litigation news group newspapers is drawing a line under disputed matters. some of which date back more than 20 years. now, of course,

news newspapers were also news group newspapers were also the publishers the now the publishers of the now defunct of the world defunct news of the world newspapers, which which. and they have apologised for the phone hacking , which has been phone hacking, which has been proven to do with the news of the world. but they have made no admission of guilt. they deny all allegations has to do with the sun newspaper . but all allegations has to do with the sun newspaper. but many are questioning why is prince harry doing this now? yeah, why is he? there could be nothing that were on there could be nothing that were eh these— there could be nothing that were on those voice— there could be nothing that were on those voice notes that he heeh-t— on those voice notes that he heeh-t tott— on those voice notes that he hasn't told us— on those voice notes that he hasn't told us already . there on those voice notes that he hasn't told us already. there is no hasn't told us already. there is he tewet— hasn't told us already. there is he tevet et— hasn't told us already. there is no level of privacy— hasn't told us already. there is no level of privacy that he hash-t— no level of privacy that he hasn't breached himself. well, exeettw. — hasn't breached himself. well, exeettw. ant— hasn't breached himself. well, exactly. and i— hasn't breached himself. well, exactly. and i don't- hasn't breached himself. well, exactly. ' t:ot“ c “

his lawyers will be fighting hard court. royal hard in court. the royal family's mantra is, of course, never explain . never complain, never explain. perhaps why the perhaps that is why did the queen well, didn't it queen rather well, didn't it? it certainly is perhaps certainly did. which is perhaps why has left it so why prince harry has left it so late. he is now no longer a working member of the royal family. he doesn't need to do what also what they say, say. but also there's many of there's been many of out—of—court settlements, hasn't there , do with alleged phone there, to do with alleged phone hacking , with the and other hacking, with the sun and other publications is because, of course , legal fights in court. course, legal fights in court. very, very expensive . you have very, very expensive. you have to pay lawyers lots of money. but we don't we, prince but we know, don't we, prince harry, despite sizes, the british the british british tabloids, the british press and i predict he is not going to settle out of court in this matter, which is going to be very uncomfortable, i think, for the publishers in question, but also the royal family, because prince harry will be called to give evidence. and what is he going to say about that when he is cross—examined and challenged as to why he's bringing these allegations so late? what's its answer going to be? he's alluded to the fact that palace wouldn't be? he's alluded to the fact tha him, palace wouldn't be? he's alluded to the fact tha him, which palace wouldn't be? he's alluded to the fact tha him, which of palace wouldn't be? he's alluded to the fact tha him, which of palace itheyin't let him, which of course, they haven't anything on. also,

haven't said anything on. also, he's said very said very he's also said very he said very eteetw— he's also said very he said very eteetw h— he's also said very he said very clearly in emphatically that earthw— clearly in emphatically that camilla, the— clearly in emphatically that camilla, the queen, as she is now effectively— camilla, the queen, as she is now effectively briefed against him,— now effectively briefed against hhh te— now effectively briefed against him, to promote— now effectively briefed against him, to promote her own pr that wttt— him, to promote her own pr that wttt heeeme— him, to promote her own pr that will become part— him, to promote her own pr that will become part of any court case. absolutely— will become part of any court case. absolutely _ will become part of any court case. absolutely ' “: “ “ will become part of any court case. absolutely “: “ “ t“ case. absolutely and in his in his memoirs, he branded her. i don't think so. in his memoirs spare he branded her a villain as well. something which hurts the queen consort , according to the queen consort, according to her friends. he's going to be with her on the day of the coronation. so it's all a bit of a mess if it does go to trial because, of course, this just because, of course, this is just a preliminary hearing a three day preliminary hearing for judge to decide whether for the judge to decide whether or not throw out the case. or not to throw out the case. that's not going until that's not going to be until january 2024. but of course, we're days away from the we're ten days away from the coronation very coronation and not very comfortable for king having comfortable for the king having this over shadowing by the this again over shadowing by the sussexes , know, court case sussexes, you know, a court case just so close to big day. just so close to his big day. and he did turn the last- and he did turn the last hearing-— and he did turn the last heehhg. he— and he did turn the last hearing. he was accused of theme— hearing. he was accused of tumhglhte— hearing. he was accused of turning . into a _ hearing. he was accused of turning into a bit of a turning it into a bit of a circus. absolutely ' “: circus. absolutely and i also must— circus. absolutely and i also must add that hugh grant, the hollywood actor, is also suing

the sun, the news group newspapers, the sun for similar allegations. he was in charge of the meme— allegations. he was in charge of the hacked off— g he was in charge of the hacked off campaign, wasn't he? the hacked off campaign, wasn't me he— the hacked off campaign, wasn't me he .— the hacked off campaign, wasn't me he . meth— the hacked off campaign, wasn't he? he i mean, hugh grant did, you— he? he i mean, hugh grant did, wee-remed— he? he i mean, hugh grant did, wee-reteet he— he? he i mean, hugh grant did, you raised he threw his you know, raised he threw his wetght— you know, raised he threw his weight behind— you know, raised he threw his weight behind that. you know whate— weight behind that. you know whetelwee— weight behind that. you know what? was hacked. you were what? i was hacked. you were heetet— what? i was hacked. you were meted-et- what? i was hacked. you were hacked-at the- what? i was hacked. you were hacked at the same hacked. we both at the same ttme— hacked. we both at the same ttme. sh— hacked. we both at the same ttme. so we— hacked. we both at the same time. so we could be going to court.— time. so we could be going to teem-teete— time. so we could be going to court-could be— time. so we could be going to court. could be taking court. we could be taking newspapers— court. we could be takingi newspapers-had newspapers to court. i had thehte— friends who got new conservatories their conservatories out of their peyote— conservatories out of theiri peyote—hem payoffs that they got from hewehehem— payoffs that they got from newspapers left, right and ehte — newspapers left, right and ehte hut— newspapers left, right and centre. but it— newspapers left, right and centre. but it was so farcical. att— centre. but it was so farcical. att .— centre. but it was so farcical. att . thew— centre. but it was so farcical. att . thew tt— centre. but it was so farcical. all i know it was— centre. but it was so farcical. all i know it was i— centre. but it was so farcical. all i know it was i mean,- centre. but it was so farcical. all i know it was i mean, i was i worked for the times and i was hacked by somebody from the late news of the world, which closed down in 2011, by the way. that just shows how historic 12 years ago. yeah. oh wow. yeah, but i. but i just let it go. i did. and i got taken into a and lugot taken into a police and i got taken into a police stateh— and i got taken into a police etetteh h— and i got taken into a police station in putney. well, and they— station in putney. well, and they eat— station in putney. well, and they sat down— station in putney. well, and they sat down with these police officers— they sat down with these police officers-right,— officers said, right, we're going— officers said, right, we're tome-thew— officers said, right, we're going show some officers said, right, we're- goinglshow-some material going to show you some material thet— going to show you some material that mteht— going to show you some material that might-little— that might be a little distressing.- that might be a little distressing. so was like, distressing. so i was like, thew—amt distressing. so i was like,- okay,_and there okay, fine, whatever. and there wee-meme,— okay, fine, whatever. and there was- notepad, like - okay, fine, whatever. and there was notepad, like this, was like a notepad, like this, the— was like a notepad, like this, the-wette- was like a notepad, like this, like-would have. was like a notepad, like this, like would have next was like a notepad, like this,- like -would have next to like someone would have next to thee— like someone would have next to ther—het— like someone would have next to theh—het sett- like someone would have next to their—had sort of. their phone. and it had sort of members— their phone. and it had sort of humhem—tt- their phone. and it had sort of numbers—it was| numbers and scribbles. it was the— numbers and scribbles. it was ttte-tmwh— numbers and scribbles. it was like-drawn in- numbers and scribbles. it was like-drawn in the- like a daisy drawn in the corner. and—

like a daisy drawn in the corner. and there'd been some lazy— corner. and there'd been some lazy journalists— corner. and there'd been some lazy journalists on— corner. and there'd been some lazy journalists on friday at lazy journalists on a friday at stoo— lazy journalists on a friday at moo-eat— lazy journalists on a friday at shoe-eet-h- lazy journalists on a friday at. 5:00-sat-in-office 5:00 who sat there in the office mt— 5:00 who sat there in the office mt ethe— 5:00 who sat there in the office mt gene-teet— 5:00 who sat there in the office and gone,-just tap- 5:00 who sat there in the office and gone, just tap into bev and gone, i'll just tap into bev whet— and gone, i'll just tap into bev mhet theme.— and gone, i'll just tap into bev turner phone—be. turner phone. she might be hemme— turner phone. she might be hewhe eh— turner phone. she might be having an affair— having an affair with someone. amt— having an affair with someone. amt-teet— having an affair with someone. amt-met ttt— having an affair with someone. and .just did that. - having an affair with someone. and just did that. it and they just did that. and it wee-the— and they just did that. and it was-like and- and they just did that. and it was like and they were was things like and they were he,— was things like and they were the-thew— was things like and they were like,-know-thisl like, do you know what this humeth— like, do you know what this humeth tee— like, do you know what this number is?-i- like, do you know what this number is? i said, have you number is? and i said, have you mne— number is? and i said, have you met he— number is? and i said, have you met tte amt— number is? and i said, have you rung it? and they— number is? and i said, have you rung it? and they said, no. i sett— rung it? and they said, no. i ah, wett— rung it? and they said, no. i said, well, shall— rung it? and they said, no. i said, well, shall we ring it? amt— said, well, shall we ring it? andlran9_ said, well, shall we ring it? andlrang tt— said, well, shall we ring it? andirang it and- said, well, shall we ring it? and rang it and it was like, and i rang it and it was like, hette— and i rang it and it was like, hello, british— and i rang it and it was like, hello, british gas. and i was he,— hello, british gas. and i was the-wett— hello, british gas. and i was like,-well, that's- hello, british gas. and i was like, well, that's the like, right, well, that's the gas— like, right, well, that's the gee—them- like, right, well, that's the. gas _then there's gas bill. it was. then there's tutteteue. — gas bill. it was. then there's ludicrous. _my- gas bill. it was. then there's ludicrous. my mum ludicrous. there's my mum and there-e— ludicrous. there's my mum and there's-brother— ludicrous. there's my mum and there's-brother-i- ludicrous. there's my mum and there's brother i knew to there's my brother and i knew to be there's my brother and i knew to he homest— there's my brother and i knew to he heheet, tt— there's my brother and i knew to be honest, i'd had— there's my brother and i knew to be honest, i'd had a tip off at the— be honest, i'd had a tip off at the ttme— be honest, i'd had a tip off at the time that— be honest, i'd had a tip off at the time that some of the tehtette— the time that some of the tabloids hacking into my tabloids were hacking into my phone-— tabloids were hacking into my theme—wettl phone. and i just said, well, twe— phone. and i just said, well, t-we-hethhe— phone. and i just said, well, i've - nothing to - phone. and i just said, well, i've nothing to hide. i've got nothing to hide. thew-te— i've got nothing to hide. they're-hear. i've got nothing to hide.| they're-hear my i've got nothing to hide.- they're-hear my mum in they're going to hear my mum in shthehuw-e— sainsbury's going, do you want more nappies? and they were he,— more nappies? and they were the-thew, — more nappies? and they were like,.know, if— more nappies? and they were like,.know, if you - more nappies? and they were like, know, if you feel like, you know, if you feel teeth— like, you know, if you feel deeply traumatised, said deeply traumatised, i said to the-emcee,— deeply traumatised, i said toj the-officer,-guys, the police officer, like, guys, thte— the police officer, like, guys, the—het- this is ridiculous. i'm not traumatised— this is ridiculous. i'm noti traumatised—a this is ridiculous. i'm not- traumatised_a load traumatised by this. it's a load of nonsense. .not- traumatised by this. it's a load of nonsense. not taking any of nonsense. i'm not taking any eettem — of nonsense. i'm not taking any action. clearly— of nonsense. i'm not taking any action. clearly prince- of nonsense. i'm not taking any action. 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about the effects that tabloids, hhtteh-eh — about the effects that tabloids,| british - on - mother, british press had on his mother, ohm,— british press had on his mother, meme—anti diana, princess of wales. and i thmt— diana, princess of wales. and i thmt perhaps— diana, princess of wales. and i think perhaps he going think perhaps he is going to maybe at to get maybe stop at nothing to get what have his day what he wants, have his day in court. must remember, court. just must remember, these— court. just must remember, princess-did-her| princess diana did have her they— princess diana did have her privacy invaded,— princess diana did have her privacy invaded, but she cooperate— privacy invaded, but she cooperate tabloid cooperate with tabloid newspapers- newspapers a lot. she talked to them — newspapers a lot. she talked to them - directed - newspapers a lot. she talked to them directed them to them a lot. she directed them to htetwee— them a lot. she directed them to htetwee mt— them a lot. she directed them to pictures and where— them a lot. she directed them to pictures and where they could get—teet- pictures and where they couldi get—toot two get pictures of her. it took two to-tt— get pictures of her. it took two to-tt he— get pictures of her. it took two to-if he really- get pictures of her. it took two to if he really wants to to tango. if he really wants to meet— to tango. if he really wants to meet the— to tango. if he really wants to upset the tabloids, away upset the tabloids, go away outetw— upset the tabloids, go away quietly-nothing- upset the tabloids, go away quietly nothing , because quietly and do nothing, because them— quietly and do nothing, because them we— quietly and do nothing, because them we ooh-t— quietly and do nothing, because then we can't they— quietly and do nothing, because then we can't they can never whte. — then we can't they can never whte-eeh-t— then we can't they can never write. -can't write - then we can't they can never write. can't write about. write. they can't write about. howe— write. they can't write about. have wow— write. they can't write about. have your lovely— write. they can't write about. have your lovely life- write. they can't write about. have your lovely life watching the nba america walk around have your lovely life watching the ibeautifulierica walk around have your lovely life watching the ibeautiful gardens,.k around have your lovely life watching the ibeautiful gardens, play und your beautiful gardens, play with away with your kids. just go away quietly. you've won. quietly. and then you've won. yeah. stop invading your own yeah. and stop invading your own hhwoew. — yeah. and stop invading your own hhwoew. wett— yeah. and stop invading your own privacy. well, perhaps it's one of privacy. well, perhaps it's one ot tow— privacy. well, perhaps it's one of four cases,— privacy. well, perhaps it's one of four cases, isn't— privacy. well, perhaps it's one of four cases, isn't he? o of four cases, isn't he? he's got— of four cases, isn't he? he's got against— of four cases, isn't he? he's got against newspapers in britain. well, you tell us about it britain. well, you tell us about tt—cemetom- britain. well, you tell us about it_cameron. thank. it beautifully, cameron. thank you.— it beautifully, cameron. thank wow-woe. — it beautifully, cameron. thank wow-woe. them.- it beautifully, cameron. thank you. you. right. still to you. thank you. right. still to e— you. thank you. right. still to come, 8 million— you. thank you. right. still to come, 8 million people claiming hemettte— benefits, including people on uhwemet— benefits, including people on. universal—receiving universal credit, were receiving a universal credit, were receiving o-ttom — universal credit, were receiving o-ttom the- universal credit, were receiving a from the government a £300 gift from the government totew— a £300 gift from the government totew .— a £300 gift from the government totew . wett— a £300 gift from the government today . we'll find— a £300 gift from the government today . we'll find out why in today. we'll find out why in teet— today. we'll find out why in thetlmomeht—

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the point on gb news with bev turner and andrew pierce . still turner and andrew pierce. still to come . that's not the right to come. that's not the right place, is it? we're talking to mark white. mark white, our home eeewttw. — mark white. mark white, our home eeewttw. hut— mark white. mark white, our home eeewttw. hut .— mark white. mark white, our home security. but i think— wt“ mark white, our home security. but i think we're going— security. but i think we're tome to— security. but i think we're tome to the— security. but i think we're going to the headlines first. we are going to the headlines first. we tome— going to the headlines first. we are we're going the headlines are we're going to the headlines wtth— are we're going to the headlines wtth -tohette— are we're going to the headlines wtth-totem .- are we're going to the headlines with-roberts. - are we're going to the headlines with-roberts . beth,- with tamsin roberts. beth, thmte— with tamsin roberts. beth, thanks very— with tamsin roberts. toy to“ here's the thanks very much. here's the latest thanks very much. here's the teteet et— thanks very much. here's the latest at 1032.— thanks very much. here's the latest at 1032. we've- toy to“ here's the latest at 1032. we've just been hearing— latest at 1032. we've just been heehhe thet— latest at 1032. we've just been hearing that raf— latest at 1032. we've just been hearing that raf flights , an raf hearing that raf flights, an raf ttteht— hearing that raf flights, an raf ttteht hee— hearing that raf flights, an raf flight has left— hearing that raf flights, an raf flight has left sudan this momhe. — flight has left sudan this morning. that's after the prime hhtetet— morning. that's after the prime minister announced this morning a minister announced this morning e large— minister announced this morning a large sette— minister announced this morning a large scale evacuation of hhtteh— a large scale evacuation of british nationals from the country— british nationals from the country .— british nationals from the country . we— british nationals from the country . we the that evacuation country. we the that evacuation teet— country. we the that evacuation met uhtetwew— country. we the that evacuation just underway now . rival just underway now. rival mttttew— just underway now. rival military factions have agreed to this military factions have agreed to the teete— military factions have agreed to this fragile 72— military factions have agreed to this fragile 72 hour ceasefire in this fragile 72 hour ceasefire th the— this fragile 72 hour ceasefire in the country. _ this fragile 72 hour ceasefire in the country. we're hearing thet— in the country. we're hearing that hot— in the country. we're hearing that raf flights— in the country. we're hearing that raf flights leaving outside the eehttet— that raf flights leaving outside the capital khartoum will be open— the capital khartoum will be open to— the capital khartoum will be open to british— the capital khartoum will be open to british passport holders wtth— open to british passport holders wtth phohtw— open to british passport holders with priority being given to the most— with priority being given to the most vulnerable— with priority being given to the most vulnerable .— with priority being given to the most vulnerable . let's hear now most vulnerable. let's hear now hom—

most vulnerable. let's hear now ttom tomes— most vulnerable. let's hear now from james cleverly . the truth from james cleverly. the truth is from james cleverly. the truth he that— from james cleverly. the truth he that we — from james cleverly. the truth is that we cannot— from james cleverly. the truth is that we cannot predict how the— is that we cannot predict how the situation— is that we cannot predict how the situation on— is that we cannot predict how the situation on the ground will tevetoh— the situation on the ground will tewetoh the— the situation on the ground will develop the conflict has, as i say,— develop the conflict has, as i eew teem— develop the conflict has, as i say, been unpredictable . e say, been unpredictable. it's teem— say, been unpredictable. it's been volatile— say, been unpredictable. it's been volatile .— say, been unpredictable. it's been volatile . we- say, been unpredictable. it's been volatile . we have said that been volatile. we have said that we are unable to provide escorts from where british nationals are to the air head. they will have to the air head. they will have to make their own way there, as indeed has been the case for the nationals of other countries. we will maintain this air head for as long as we can, but the situation does remain. as i say , dangerous and volatile. we'll be getting more on this story in just a moment with mark white, our home affairs and security editor on to other news now. a new report has found online tmeeee— new report has found online tmeeee ot— new report has found online images of children aged as young as images of children aged as young to tethe— images of children aged as young as seven being sexually abused has as seven being sexually abused hee them— as seven being sexually abused hoe tw— as seven being sexually abused has risen by almost two thirds ethe— has risen by almost two thirds mo.— has risen by almost two thirds since 2020. the— has risen by almost two thirds since 2020. the internet watch tomtettoh— since 2020. the internet watch foundation says— since 2020. the internet watch foundation says the number of weh— foundation says the number of wet poeee— foundation says the number of web pages hosting the most eteme— web pages hosting the most extreme material has doubled in

teem— extreme material has doubled in teeht weete — extreme material has doubled in recent years, with— extreme material has doubled in recent years, with children meet— recent years, with children meet two — recent years, with children under two years old suffering the moot— under two years old suffering the most severe— under two years old suffering the most severe abuse . the nspcc the most severe abuse. the nspcc has the most severe abuse. the nspcc hoe eotteo— the most severe abuse. the nspcc hoe eotteo oh— the most severe abuse. the nspcc has called on the— the most severe abuse. the nspcc has called on the government to ensure website— has called on the government to ensure website owners are held hotte— ensure website owners are held ttohte tot— ensure website owners are held liable for failing— ensure website owners are held liable for failing to tackle ehtto— liable for failing to tackle child sexual— liable for failing to tackle child sexual abuse on their ettee— child sexual abuse on their ettee .— child sexual abuse on their ettee . hote— child sexual abuse on their sites . more than 8 child sexual abuse on their sites. more than 8 million households— sites. more than 8 million households will start receiving a households will start receiving o teet— households will start receiving o tech eoet— households will start receiving a £301 cost of— households will start receiving a £301 cost of living support powmeht— a £301 cost of living support powmeht ttom — a £301 cost of living support payment from the government. tooow— payment from the government. tooow tte— payment from the government. today he the— payment from the government. today it's the first of three powmehte— today it's the first of three payments totalling £900 for thoee— payments totalling £900 for those eligible— payments totalling £900 for those eligible on benefits, such as those eligible on benefits, such oe ohtweteot— those eligible on benefits, such as universal credit— those eligible on benefits, such as universal credit or pension meth— as universal credit or pension meet. the— as universal credit or pension credit. the department for work and credit. the department for work oho hehetohe— credit. the department for work and pensions will— credit. the department for work and pensions will send payments ootomotteotw— and pensions will send payments automatically and— and pensions will send payments automatically and directly to teetetemte— automatically and directly to recipients. bank— automatically and directly to recipients. bank accounts is the toteet— recipients. bank accounts is the toteet heotthe— recipients. bank accounts is the latest hearing in— recipients. bank accounts is the latest hearing in prince harry's teoot— latest hearing in prince harry's legal hotttee— latest hearing in prince harry's legal battles with the uk . press legal battles with the uk. press is legal battles with the uk. press to ohtetwow— legal battles with the uk. press to ohoetwow ot— legal battles with the uk. press is underway at the— legal battles with the uk. press is underway at the high court in tohoom— is underway at the high court in tohtom the— is underway at the high court in london. the duke— is underway at the high court in london. the duke of sussex is etho— london. the duke of sussex is eoho wewe— london. the duke of sussex is suing news group— london. the duke of sussex is suing news group newspapers. the hohttehet— suing news group newspapers. the pohttehet ot— suing news group newspapers. the publisher of the— suing news group newspapers. the publisher of the sun and the now oetohet— publisher of the sun and the now oetohet wewe— publisher of the sun and the now defunct news of— publisher of the sun and the now defunct news of the world over otteoeo— defunct news of the world over alleged unlawful— defunct news of the world over alleged unlawful information oothetthe.— alleged unlawful information gathering. that— alleged unlawful information gathering. that hearing is expected— gathering. that hearing is expected to— gathering. that hearing is expected to last for three days as expected to last for three days oe . thot-e— expected to last for three days as . that's all—

expected to last for three days as . that's all from me for now. as. that's all from me for now. how— as. that's all from me for now. how tte— as. that's all from me for now. how he hoot— as. that's all from me for now. now it's back to— as. that's all from me for now. now it's back to andrew and . bev now it's back to andrew and. bev tweet— now it's back to andrew and. bev direct bullion— now it's back to andrew and. bev direct bullion sponsors . direct bullion sponsors. the home— direct bullion sponsors. the finance report— direct bullion sponsors. the finance report on— direct bullion sponsors. the finance report on gb news for gold and silver investment . gold and silver investment. well, let's have a quick snapshot look at today's market. it's the pound will buy you 1.2, tow— it's the pound will buy you 1.2, four seven, $2— it's the pound will buy you 1.2, four seven, $2 and— it's the pound will buy you 1.2, four seven, $2 and ,1.1297. the phoe— four seven, $2 and ,1.1297. the ottee ot— four seven, $2 and ,1.1297. the pttee ot gott— four seven, $2 and ,1.1297. the pttee ot gold te— four seven, $2 and ,1.1297. the price of gold is .— four seven, $2 and ,1.1297. the price of gold is . £1,596.13 per price of gold is. £1,596.13 per aho— price of gold is. £1,596.13 per ounce. and the— price of gold is. £1,596.13 per ounce. and the ftse 100 is at testo— ounce. and the ftse 100 is at 7889 home.— ounce. and the ftse 100 is at 7889 pothte. a— ounce. and the ftse 100 is at 7889 points. a direct bullion epoheote the— 7889 points. a direct bullion sponsors the finance report on gb sponsors the finance report on eh wewe— sponsors the finance report on gb news investments that matter . how.— gb news investments that matter . how. hteotme— gb news investments that matter . now. breaking news,- gb news investments that matter . now. breaking news, we've got mark white, our home and security editor. breaking news from sudan. yes, the first flight, hercules c—130 transport aircraft has just taken off from

the capital, khartoum, with with evacuees, including , of course, evacuees, including, of course, british nationals heading, we understand , for cyprus. now, understand, for cyprus. now, there is a flight radar- l. :: now, there is a flight radar tracker . i there is a flight radar tracker . t ooh-t— there is a flight radar tracker . i don't know— there is a flight radar tracker . i don't know if— there is a flight radar tracker . i don't know if we can bring the— . i don't know if we can bring the tmooee— . i don't know if we can bring the tmoeee ot— . i don't know if we can bring the images of that, but that eettothtw— the images of that, but that certainly shows— the images of that, but that certainly shows that this c—130 ottetott— certainly shows that this c—130 ottetott toot— certainly shows that this c—130 aircraft took off— certainly shows that this c—130 aircraft took off from , um, aircraft took off from, um, thottoom — aircraft took off from, um, khartoum within the last half how— khartoum within the last half how .— khartoum within the last half how . aho— khartoum within the last half hour. and it's— khartoum within the last half hour. and it's making it's mothe— hour. and it's making it's making tte— hour. and it's making it's making its way north, heading towotoe— making its way north, heading towotoe hoope— making its way north, heading towards egypt, first of all. them— towards egypt, first of all. them tt-tt— towards egypt, first of all. then it'll make its way out over the oeo— then it'll make its way out over the to— then it'll make its way out over the ocean to the— then it'll make its way out over the ocean to the raaf base at ottotttt — the ocean to the raaf base at ottotttt th— the ocean to the raaf base at akrotiri in cyprus— the ocean to the raaf base at akrotiri in cyprus as this is going— akrotiri in cyprus as this is tome to— akrotiri in cyprus as this is tome to he— akrotiri in cyprus as this is going to be the— akrotiri in cyprus as this is going to be the first of dozens of going to be the first of dozens ot theee — going to be the first of dozens of these flights— going to be the first of dozens of these flights because, of course, a flight— of these flights because, of course, a flight like this may be course, a flight like this may he otte— course, a flight like this may he ohte to— course, a flight like this may be able to take— course, a flight like this may be able to take 100 or so people , hot— be able to take 100 or so people , hot thete— be able to take 100 or so people , hot thete oe— be able to take 100 or so people , but there are 4000 british poeepott— , but there are 4000 british passport holders, their families , oepehtehte— passport holders, their families , dependents, others from other hottee— , dependents, others from other countries that— , dependents, others from other countries that are— , dependents, others from other countries that are stuck in sodom— countries that are stuck in stem oe— countries that are stuck in sudan as well. _ countries that are stuck in sudan as well. they're taking otwohtoee— sudan as well. they're taking otwohtooe ot— sudan as well. they're taking advantage of this 72 hour eoeette— advantage of this 72 hour ceasefire. but— advantage of this 72 hour ceasefire. but it's very wotottte— ceasefire. but it's very

volatile, very - ceasefire. but it's very volatile, very vulnerable, a eoeette— volatile, very vulnerable, a ceasefire that _ volatile, very vulnerable, a ceasefire that may not last. theee— ceasefire that may not last. theee tte— ceasefire that may not last. these are these— ceasefire that may not last. these are these are- ceasefire that may not last. these are these are militant warlords who don't play by the normal rules. so warlords who don't play by the normal rules . so the difficulty normal rules. so the difficulty is normal rules. so the difficulty te we— normal rules. so the difficulty te we heott— normal rules. so the difficulty is we heard about— normal rules. so the difficulty is we heard about this- is we heard about this evacuation— is we heard about this evacuation operation that took htoee— evacuation operation that took htoee ot— evacuation operation that took ptoee ot the — evacuation operation that took place at the weekend to get the othtomote— place at the weekend to get the otptomote omt— place at the weekend to get the diplomats and the— place at the weekend to get the diplomats and the vips out and to get— diplomats and the vips out and to get them— diplomats and the vips out and to get them out— diplomats and the vips out and to get them out fast . that was to get them out fast. that was controversial. _ to get them out fast. that was controversial. but— to get them out fast. that was controversial. but i think done for controversial. but i think done tot wew— controversial. but i think done tot very toot— controversial. but i think done for very good reason, because othtomote— for very good reason, because otptomote wee— for very good reason, because diplomats were under specific thteot— diplomats were under specific thteot. we— diplomats were under specific threat. we know— diplomats were under specific threat. we know that a french othtomot— threat. we know that a french otptomot woe— threat. we know that a french diplomat was shot in the fighting— diplomat was shot in the fightingt eo— diplomat was shot in the fighting, so they wanted to get them — fighting, so they wanted to get them out— fighting, so they wanted to get them out .— fighting, so they wanted to get them out . they— fighting, so they wanted to get them out . they came out under them out. they came out under mttttow— them out. they came out under mttttotw eeeott— them out. they came out under military escort with special toee— military escort with special toee tome— military escort with special forces going in.— military escort with special forces going in. the civilians , forces going in. the civilians, eoow— forces going in. the civilians, eootw tot— forces going in. the civilians, sadly for them,— forces going in. the civilians, sadly for them, are just having to mote— sadly for them, are just having to make their— sadly for them, are just having to make their own way to an otmott— to make their own way to an otmott hotth— to make their own way to an airport north of— to make their own way to an airport north of the capital. we— airport north of the capital. the teteo— airport north of the capital. we asked alicia— airport north of the capital. we asked alicia kearns,- airport north of the capital. we asked alicia kearns, who's the chairwoman of the foreign affairs committee, affairs select committee, about that said. that very thing we said. i thought the rule would be the ambassador. diplomats would ambassador. the diplomats would go like the go out, last a bit like the captain but she there captain ship, but she said there were very specific information that they were being threatened. yes, absolutely . and, you know, yes, absolutely. and, you know, home— yes, absolutely. and, you know, home out— yes, absolutely. and, you know, home out tw— yes, absolutely. and, you know, borne out by the— yes, absolutely. and, you know, borne out by the fact that a othtomot— borne out by the fact that a diplomat was— borne out by the fact that a diplomat was shot. so a real thteot— diplomat was shot. so a real threat there—

diplomat was shot. so a real threat there .— diplomat was shot. so a real threat there . they had to get threat there. they had to get them — threat there. they had to get them out. — threat there. they had to get them out. but— threat there. they had to get them out. but of— threat there. they had to get them out. but of course, efforts are now turning— them out. but of course, efforts are now turning to— them out. but of course, efforts are now turning to those thooeohte— are now turning to those thousands of— are now turning to those thousands of individuals just hom— thousands of individuals just ttom the— thousands of individuals just ttom the wt— thousands of individuals just from the uk and many thousands of from the uk and many thousands ot othete— from the uk and many thousands ot othete ttom — from the uk and many thousands of others from other countries thot— of others from other countries thot — of others from other countries thot teet— of others from other countries that are just stuck there . and that are just stuck there. and it that are just stuck there. and tt te— that are just stuck there. and tt te o— that are just stuck there. and tt te o wew— that are just stuck there. and it is a very volatile and tense ettoottom— it is a very volatile and tense situation. there— it is a very volatile and tense situation. there are multiple eheetpothte — situation. there are multiple checkpoints. we— situation. there are multiple checkpoints. we are understanding that most of the emot— understanding that most of the expot httte— understanding that most of the expat brits that— understanding that most of the expat brits that are in khartoum are expat brits that are in khartoum th— expat brits that are in khartoum th the— expat brits that are in khartoum are in the eastern— expat brits that are in khartoum are in the eastern suburbs of the— are in the eastern suburbs of the eohttot. — are in the eastern suburbs of the capital. they— are in the eastern suburbs of the capital. they have to make thett— the capital. they have to make thett wow— the capital. they have to make their way north _ the capital. they have to make their way north through multiple mttttotw— their way north through multiple military checkpoints . it's you military checkpoints. it's you ooh-t— military checkpoints. it's you ooh-t thow— military checkpoints. it's you don't know at— military checkpoints. it's you don't know at any point whether woo-te— don't know at any point whether woo-te tome— don't know at any point whether woo-te tome to— don't know at any point whether you're going to stop, get etoppeot— you're going to stop, get etoppeo, tet— you're going to stop, get stopped, let through, arrested , stopped, let through, arrested, whotevet— stopped, let through, arrested, whatever might— stopped, let through, arrested, whatever might happen to you . whatever might happen to you. thete— whatever might happen to you. thete te— whatever might happen to you. thete te ho— whatever might happen to you. there is no military escort for you.— there is no military escort for you. too-te— there is no military escort for you. too-te oh— there is no military escort for you. you're on your own to try to get— you. you're on your own to try to get to— you. you're on your own to try to get to hot— you. you're on your own to try to get to that airport and just hope— to get to that airport and just hope thot— to get to that airport and just hope thot the— to get to that airport and just hope that the ceasefire continues _ hope that the ceasefire continues to - hope that the ceasefire continues to hold. others have gtweh— continues to hold. others have gtweh op— continues to hold. others have gtweh op oh— continues to hold. others have given up on trying to get to the ottpott— given up on trying to get to the ottpott th— given up on trying to get to the ottpott th the— given up on trying to get to the airport in the north. i've told us airport in the north. i've told he thot— airport in the north. i've told us that they're _ airport in the north. i've told us that they're heading towards the hot— us that they're heading towards the hot ot— us that they're heading towards the port of sudan— us that they're heading towards the port of sudan . now, if that the port of sudan. now, if that hoppehe— the port of sudan. now, if that hoppehe tte— the port of sudan. now, if that happens, it's obviously going to howe— happens, it's obviously going to hove to— happens, it's obviously going to hove to he— happens, it's obviously going to hove to he o— happens, it's obviously going to have to be a maritime operation to th— have to be a maritime operation to to to— have to be a maritime operation to to to get— have to be a maritime operation to try to get them.— have to be a maritime operation to try to get them. we know that

hots— to try to get them. we know that hms lancaster— to try to get them. we know that hms lancaster ,— to try to get them. we know that hms lancaster , the type 23 hms lancaster, the type 23 tttgote,— hms lancaster, the type 23 ppgae, te— hms lancaster, the type 23 ppgae, te th— hms lancaster, the type 23 frigate, is in the— hms lancaster, the type 23 frigate, is in the region. it's at frigate, is in the region. it's ot eo— frigate, is in the region. it's at sea already.— frigate, is in the region. it's at sea already. and we understand— at sea already. and we understand that it is making ptepotottohe— understand that it is making preparations to— understand that it is making preparations to head there towotte— preparations to head there towards the— preparations to head there towards the port of sudan if needed— towards the port of sudan if needed th— towards the port of sudan if needed in the— towards the port of sudan if needed in the evacuations as wet. — needed in the evacuations as wet. mott.— needed in the evacuations as well. mark, in— needed in the evacuations as well. mark, in these- needed in the evacuations as well. “ well. mark, in these sorts of situations , if someone has situations, if someone has a british passport holder, but they don't live here and they are we got 4000 people, hopefully less fingers crossed, everybody gets home safely once they arrive here. are they their own responsibility , motty or do own responsibility, motty or do they continue to be the responsibility of the government? there their own responsibility if they have the means to support themselves, if they have family another they have family and another network of people that can look after if not it like after them, if not it like anybody else in this country , anybody else in this country, the welfare state will move in to help these individuals . so to help these individuals. so i think the first priority- to help these individuals. so i think the first priority is- . so i think the first priority is just to get— think the first priority is just to get them— think the first priority is just to get them out.— think the first priority is just to get them out. they are if thew-te— to get them out. they are if thew-te o— to get them out. they are if they're a british— to get them out. they are if they're a british passport hottet— they're a british passport holder, they're british citizens . eo— holder, they're british citizens . so to— holder, they're british citizens . so to get— holder, they're british citizens . so to get them— holder, they're british citizens . so to get them out holder, they're british citizens . soto get them out in holder, they're british citizens . so to get them out in the thet— . soto get them out in the tttet ptoee. — . so to get them out in the first place. but— . soto get them out in the first place. but it's not just going— first place. but it's not just gothglhe— first place. but it's not just going-be brits- first place. but it's not just going be brits the way that going to be brits the way that

theee— going to be brits the way that theee evoc— going to be brits the way that these evac situations work is hot— these evac situations work is thot ott— these evac situations work is thot ott ot— these evac situations work is that all of the _ these evac situations work is that all of the nations pitch to in that all of the nations pitch to th hetp— that all of the nations pitch to th hetp who— that all of the nations pitch to in help who they— that all of the nations pitch to in help who they can. they'll try in help who they can. they'll to to — in help who they can. they'll try to prioritise. _ in help who they can. they'll try to prioritise. but in many teepeete— try to prioritise. but in many teepeete tte— try to prioritise. but in many respects, it's a— try to prioritise. but in many respects, it's a first come, tttet— respects, it's a first come, tttet eewe— respects, it's a first come, first serve basis. so overnight htght— first serve basis. so overnight htght we— first serve basis. so overnight htght we hoo— first serve basis. so overnight night we had a— first serve basis. so overnight night we had a military ship, a eoett— night we had a military ship, a saudi arabian— night we had a military ship, a saudi arabian naval vessel, otttwthg— saudi arabian naval vessel, otttwthg th— saudi arabian naval vessel, arriving in the— saudi arabian naval vessel, arriving in the saudi port of jeddah_ arriving in the saudi port of jeddah wtth— arriving in the saudi port of jeddah with almost 200 evacuees omohg— jeddah with almost 200 evacuees omohg them— jeddah with almost 200 evacuees among them were— jeddah with almost 200 evacuees among them were british hottohote— among them were british nationals and— among them were british nationals and other nationals hom— nationals and other nationals ttom the— nationals and other nationals ttom the us— nationals and other nationals ttom the us ,— nationals and other nationals from the us , sweden and other from the us, sweden and other weetem— from the us, sweden and other western countries— from the us, sweden and other western countries . there was western countries. there was ohothet— western countries. there was another flight— western countries. there was another flight that took off thot— another flight that took off that headed _ another flight that took off that headed to— another flight that took off that headed to the kenyan eopttot— that headed to the kenyan capital, nairobi, with about 100 othet— capital, nairobi, with about 100 other students— capital, nairobi, with about 100 other students from various htteeot — other students from various htteeot so— other students from various countries. so it's a big multinational effort to try to get them— multinational effort to try to get them out— multinational effort to try to get them out of— multinational effort to try to get them out of what is a very oohgetooe— get them out of what is a very dangerous situation that could, of course, descend into violence at of course, descend into violence ot om— of course, descend into violence ot ohw ttme— of course, descend into violence ot ohw ttme . — of course, descend into violence at any time . okay.— of course, descend into violence at any time . at any time. okay. thank you, mark. i think you'll be back with us in the next hour as well for any developments still to come this morning, we're going to coverage that to continue our coverage of that flight off sudan. flight taking off from sudan. this point on gb news,

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on gb news. the people's channel britain is watching . well, it's britain is watching. well, it's 1043. this is to the point on gb wewe— 1043. this is to the point on gb hewe wtth— 1043. this is to the point on gb news with andrew— �*0/�*1’5 this is to the point on gb news with andrew pierce and bev tot-me— news with andrew pierce and bev totme tete— news with andrew pierce and bev turner. let's dive— news with andrew pierce and bev turner. let's dive into some of the— turner. let's dive into some of the tow-e— turner. let's dive into some of the toe top— turner. let's dive into some of the day's top stories . \t go: the day's top stories. nigel teteot— the day's top stories. nigel heteoh mo— the day's top stories. nigel nelson and tonia buxton are with us here this morning. good morning. good morning. morning. right what are we starting with, nigel? talk about sudan? right what are we starting with, nigel? want talk about sudan? right what are we starting with, nigel? want to. lk about sudan? right what are we starting with, nigel? want to. i: about sudan? right what are we starting with, nigel? want to. i thinkt sudan? right what are we starting with, nigel? want to. i think tanya n? do you want to. i think tanya wants to go first. go on. i want to. i want to talk about the de—platforming of. they're trying. deplatform - :o “t; they're trying deplatform again. trying to deplatform again. tothteeh— trying to deplatform again. kathleen _thisl trying to deplatform again.- kathleen _this woman kathleen stock. now, this woman was kathleen stock. now, this woman woelptoteeeot.— kathleen stock. now, this woman was professor. resigned . was a professor. she resigned. she—ot- was a professor. she resigned.| she—of sussex she was a university of sussex omt— she was a university of sussex met me— she was a university of sussex and she resigned— she was a university of sussex and she resigned because of the tome— and she resigned because of the tone hote— and she resigned because of the trans hate that— and she resigned because of the trans hate that she— and she resigned because of the trans hate that she was getting. she— trans hate that she was getting. she te— trans hate that she was getting. she te o— trans hate that she was getting. she is a married— trans hate that she was getting. she is a married lesbian ptoteeeot— she is a married lesbian professor and- she is a married lesbian professor and all she states is hot— professor and all she states is thot womee— professor and all she states is that women's spaces should be women's spaces. they they ehootth-t— women's spaces. they they shouldn't have— women's spaces. they they shouldn't have trans people in it. shouldn't have trans people in t. aho— shouldn't have trans people in it. and because— shouldn't have trans people in it. and because of— shouldn't have trans people in it. and because of that , her it. and because of that, her ttte— it. and because of that, her ttte hoe— it. and because of that, her life has exploded. she had to teetgm— life has exploded. she had to teetgm she-e— life has exploded. she had to resign. she's now— life has exploded. she had to resign. she's now actually left the county— resign. she's now actually left the county .— resign. she's now actually left the country . she's a visiting the country. she's a visiting tettow— the country. she's a visiting tettow ot— the country. she's a visiting fellow at the— the country. she's a visiting fellow at the university of oeette— fellow at the university of ooeth how— fellow at the university of austin now, and she's coming hoot— austin now, and she's coming hoot to— austin now, and she's coming hoot to tott— austin now, and she's coming

back to talk at— austin now, and she's coming back to talk at the oxford tmtom — back to talk at the oxford tmtom aho— back to talk at the oxford union. and do— back to talk at the oxford union. and do you know what gets to me— union. and do you know what gets to me te— union. and do you know what gets to me te ehe-e— union. and do you know what gets to me is she's going— union. and do you know what gets to me is she's going to the tehotthg— to me is she's going to the debating society. yeah so, i meom-ooee- debating society. yeah so, i mean,-does a- debating society. yeah so, i mean, does a debate mean? debating society. yeah so, i- mean,-does a debate mean? i mean, what does a debate mean? i thew-te— mean, what does a debate mean? i mean, they're saying— mean, what does a debate mean? i mean, they're saying that she thew-te— mean, they're saying that she they're dismayed— mean, they're saying that she they're dismayed and appalled thot— they're dismayed and appalled thot ehe-e— they're dismayed and appalled that she's going— they're dismayed and appalled that she's going to go and have a conversation,— that she's going to go and have a conversation, a— that she's going to go and have a conversation, a debate . surely a conversation, a debate. surely we woott— a conversation, a debate. surely we would debate— a conversation, a debate. surely we would debate with the most i t— we would debate with the most i t ooh-t— we would debate with the most i mean, i don't think— we would debate with the most i mean, i don't think she's hotetot— mean, i don't think she's hotetot. t— mean, i don't think she's hateful. i think what she says is hateful. i think what she says he petteettw— hateful. i think what she says is perfectly reasonable. but tt— is perfectly reasonable. but tt ehe— is perfectly reasonable. but even if she even- is perfectly reasonable. but even if she even if it isn't tt— even if she even if it isn't t tt— even if she even if it isn't even if it was,— even if she even if it isn't even if it was, she's allowed to mote— even if it was, she's allowed to mote-potht— even if it was, she's allowed to make-point-have- make her point and have a oehote.— make her point and have a debate. isn't— make her point and have a debate. isn't the whole debate. isn't that the whole potht— debate. isn't that the whole point-debating- debate. isn't that the whole point-debating ,- debate. isn't that the whole point debating , particularly point of debating, particularly universities? _ universities? nigel, isn't that right? , we're on the right? you know, we're on the same side of this one disagreement. no, absolutely. tte-te— disagreement. no, absolutely. we're-same side- disagreement. no, absolutely. we're-same side of- : 53goofi“:“. no, absolutely. we're same side of this we're on the same side of this .thte— we're on the same side of this ome-thte te— we're on the same side of this one.-this islmatter- we're on the same side of this one. this is matter of one. that this is a matter of hee— one. that this is a matter of ttee epeeeh— one. that this is a matter of free speech._be| one. that this is a matter of- free speech._be able free speech. she should be able to-het— free speech. she should be able to-het eow— free speech. she should be able to-het eow .— free speech. she should be able to her say . whether one to have her say. whether one goee— to have her say. whether one goee wtth— to have her say. whether one agrees with it— to have her say. whether one agrees with it or— to have her say. whether one agrees with it or not is a ottteteht— agrees with it or not is a different matter. it is the tetto— different matter. it is the lgbtq society- different matter. it is the lgbtq society at the university whteh— lgbtq society at the university whteh te— lgbtq society at the university whteh te eowthg— lgbtq society at the university which is saying they don't want het. — which is saying they don't want het. t— which is saying they don't want het. t wom— which is saying they don't want het. t wont to— which is saying they don't want her. i want to no— which is saying they don't want her. i want to no platform her. in her. i want to no platform her. to totmeee— her. i want to no platform her. in fairness to— her. i want to no platform her. in fairness to the— her. i want to no platform her. in fairness to the oxford union, thew-te— in fairness to the oxford union, thew-te eowthg— in fairness to the oxford union, thew-te eowthg ho— in fairness to the oxford union, they're saying no to free speech tmmpe— they're saying no to free speech tmmpe the— they're saying no to free speech trumps the idea— they're saying no to free speech trumps the idea the of trying to emet— trumps the idea the of trying to cancel somebody— trumps the idea the of trying to cancel somebody and she will be tmtteo— cancel somebody and she will be tmttet omt— cancel somebody and she will be invited and welcome. �*ft�*y :

invited and welcome. why should the lgbt btec whatever community have the power or the influence or the sway to try to stop somebody? well, they don't. and in somebody? well, they don't. and th the— somebody? well, they don't. and to thte oe— somebody? well, they don't. and in this case, they— somebody? well, they don't. and in this case, they don't- :�* well, they don't. and in this case, they don't have it heeooee— in this case, they don't have it heeooee the— in this case, they don't have it because the oxford union has the poe— because the oxford union has the poe tthot— because the oxford union has the power. what what— because the oxford union has the power. what what they're doing is power. what what they're doing te—tot— power. what what they're doing is_forle- is they're calling for it. my wew— is they're calling for it. my wew-te— is they're calling for it. my wew-te o- is they're calling for it. my view is a mistake that view is that is a mistake that i t— view is that is a mistake that i t woott— view is that is a mistake that i mean, i would love to hear her epeoh— mean, i would love to hear her epeot. to— mean, i would love to hear her epeot. to ttte— mean, i would love to hear her speak. i'd like to— mean, i would love to hear her speak. i'd like to hear i don't ththt— speak. i'd like to hear i don't ththt t— speak. i'd like to hear i don't think i would— speak. i'd like to hear i don't think i would agree with her hot— think i would agree with her hot t— think i would agree with her views, but i want to hear what they— views, but i want to hear what they oe— views, but i want to hear what they aho— views, but i want to hear what they are. and surely students of all they are. and surely students of ott—tteteh- they are. and surely students of ott—tteteh tol all people ought to listen to whot—the- all people ought to listen to what—the point. all people ought to listen toi what—the point is, what they are. the point is, these trans activists and i have trans friends, so i know that my trans friends, so i know that my trans friends, so i know that my trans friends don't agree with these activists. so i need these trans activists. so i need to say out straight. ah so to say that out straight. ah so vile and ah, so frightening thing that they have. she quit her job. thing that they have. she quit herjob. she resigned from the university of sussex because she couldn't it anymore . so couldn't take it anymore. so they frightening. so they are really frightening. so yes, they're not winning in yes, they they're not winning in this situation. she's going. but she's she you have to be made of steel even able to debate steel to even be able to debate this. it's an insanity this. and it's just an insanity that it's called conversion therapy . they're saying that therapy. they're saying that kathleen stock wants conversion therapy. do you know what

conversion therapy is in the trans debate? it's a conversation . yeah, it's conversation. yeah, it's a conversation. yeah, it's a conversation. they're conversation. yeah, it's a conversation . they're not having conversation. they're not having eteettooee— conversation. they're not having eteettooee pot— conversation. they're not having electrodes put onto— f o“ they're not having electrodes put onto their heads eowthg— electrodes put onto their heads eowthg you— electrodes put onto their heads eowthg you wtt— electrodes put onto their heads saying you will no longer be gay,— saying you will no longer be gave you— saying you will no longer be gow, you wtt— saying you will no longer be gave you will no_ saying you will no longer be gay, you will no longer be ttohe— gay, you will no longer be ttohe — gay, you will no longer be ttohe tte— gay, you will no longer be trans. it's a— gay, you will no longer be trans. e o“ ' trans. it's a conversation. and that's called conversion therapy . mean, can that be? do . i mean, how can that be? do not rush into taking— “ tt3“ :to7 do not rush into taking hormone tohtete— not rush into taking hormone tablets, which— not rush into taking hormone tablets, which may forever ehomge— tablets, which may forever change. well,— tablets, which may forever change. well, lopping off your hoote— change. well, lopping off your boobs because— change. well, lopping off your boobs because it's a very long tetm. — boobs because it's a very long tetm. tte— boobs because it's a very long tetm. we young— boobs because it's a very long term. we young people should howe— term. we young people should hove theee— term. we young people should have these conversations a lot. a tot.— have these conversations a lot. a la, reallv- — have these conversations a lot. a lot, really. and— have these conversations a lot. a lot, really. and that's- have these conversations a lot. a lot, really. and that's the- a lot, really. and that's the whole point is that you can now walk into your doctors and whatever and get kind of hormones almost straight away. yeah. never used to yeah. whereas it never used to be like that. my trans friends went through a really long penod went through a really long period before they they went through they've gone through what they've gone through what they've gone through the drugs and the through with the drugs and the surgeries and surgeries and whatever. and it was long they had to was a long period. they had to really sure because we're really be sure because we're getting these detransition getting all these detransition banners really banners now, people really suffering with terrible depression not depression because there's not enough time spent on educating and speaking these people. and speaking to these people. but this goes in really but i think this goes in really well with what rishi did today, because hero today. oh, because he's my hero today. oh,

is here today? bev no. is he out here today? bev no. well, no. you know why- is he out here today? bev no. well, no. you know why ?- :7 no. well, no. you know why ? because well, no. you know why? because you know— well, no. you know why? because you know whote— well, no. you know why? because you know what? he's if you look at you know what? he's if you look ot the— you know what? he's if you look ot the tetott— you know what? he's if you look at the detail of— you know what? he's if you look at the detail of this. so this is at the detail of this. so this te ohoot— at the detail of this. so this is about rishi _ at the detail of this. so this is about rishi sunak saying, i know— is about rishi sunak saying, i thow—te - is about rishi sunak saying, i thow—te youl is about rishi sunak saying, i- know_is. you know, know what a woman is. you know, it . know what a woman is. you know, tt . the,— know what a woman is. you know, tt . the the.— know what a woman is. you know, it . fine, fine. that's— know what a woman is. you know, it . fine, fine. that's okay. it. fine, fine. that's okay. ooot— it. fine, fine. that's okay. eooo tm— it. fine, fine. that's okay. good i'm pleased about that. tthot— good i'm pleased about that. whot hee— good i'm pleased about that. what he's saying— good i'm pleased about that. what he's saying is i'll protect the eope.ee — what he's saying is i'll protect the eope.ee t— what he's saying is i'll protect the spaces. i have— what he's saying is i'll protect the spaces. i have daughters as they— the spaces. i have daughters as thew-twe— the spaces. i have daughters as thew-the th— the spaces. i have daughters as they-live in safe— the spaces. i have daughters as they live in safe safety. they can live in safe safety. whehewet. — they can live in safe safety. whenever. whenever. this prime hthtetet— whenever. whenever. this prime minister starts— whenever. whenever. this prime minister starts talking about ththge— minister starts talking about ththge thot— minister starts talking about things that will— minister starts talking about things that will keep you safe, ttte— things that will keep you safe, the ow— things that will keep you safe, the peep— things that will keep you safe, like our beep on— things that will keep you safe, like our beep on our phone at the— like our beep on our phone at the weekend. _ like our beep on our phone at the weekend. your ears need to phot— the weekend. your ears need to pttet op— the weekend. your ears need to pttet op oe— the weekend. your ears need to pttet op oe to— the weekend. your ears need to prick up as to what actually prick up as to what is actually going— prick up as to what is actually. gothg—totte going on here and what he talks ohoot— going on here and what he talks otoot te— going on here and what he talks otoot te whot— going on here and what he talks about is what he— going on here and what he talks about is what he will do to keep us about is what he will do to keep oe-ttomeh— about is what he will do to keep oe-ttomeh te— about is what he will do to keep us-women is more- about is what he will do to keep us women is more cctv us safe. women is more cctv eometoeoo-w— us safe. women is more cctv cameras.-you-that. us safe. women is more cctv cameras. you that in cameras. did you spot that in the— cameras. did you spot that in the-e— cameras. did you spot that in the-e see,— cameras. did you spot that in the-e see, t— cameras. did you spot that in the-? see, i did- cameras. did you spot that in the ? see, i did not. the detail? see, i did not. veoh— the detail? see, i did not. veoh-whot- the detail? see, i did not. yeah, what worries me. yeah, that's what worries me. thot-e— yeah, that's what worries me. that's-solution. - yeah, that's what worries me. that's solution. you that's not the solution. if you wom— that's not the solution. if you want-women safe,- that's not the solution. if you want women safe, you want to keep women safe, you ghe— want to keep women safe, you gtwelhettet— want to keep women safe, you give i better police - want to keep women safe, you give better police officers. give us better police officers. voo— give us better police officers. too-eeeotttw- give us better police officers. you-security on - give us better police officers. you security on public you give us security on public ttohepott,— you give us security on public ttohepottlwoo— you give us security on public transport, you make sure transport, and you make sure thot— transport, and you make sure thot ott— transport, and you make sure thot oh the— transport, and you make sure that all the wrong guns are toeteo— that all the wrong guns are hooked up— that all the wrong guns are locked up for— that all the wrong guns are locked up for a— that all the wrong guns are locked up for a long time. no, tott— locked up for a long time. no, tott enough.— locked up for a long time. no, fair enough. yes _ locked up for a long time. no, fair enough. yes o fair enough. yes he's also talking about to try and have a bit a bit clear blue water bit a bit of clear blue water between him and keir starmer. talking about it, making sure that women only spaces continue

. so the idea would be that if you have somebody if you have a woman with a penis, effectively she would not be allowed in a rape crisis centre would not be allowed in a refuge, not in a changing room. all that's fine . changing room. all that's fine. the only thing i'm wondering a bit about this whole thing is, is it really a matter for government to be doing quite so much about this kind of thing? it seems to me it's a personal, personal choice by the individual . and i also wonder individual. and i also wonder how much the electorate really care about this as being a major issue . i know we talk about issue. i know we talk about a lot, but when you think, you know, you hear of major, major clothes stores having communal changing dressing rooms and how did the women get a say in that? i think the government does need to mote— i think the government does need to mote o— i think the government does need to make a stand— i think the government does need to make a stand here because i ththt— to make a stand here because i ththt thte— to make a stand here because i think this argument has been ewoweo— think this argument has been ewowet too— think this argument has been swayed too much the wrong way by a swayed too much the wrong way by o-tthw— swayed too much the wrong way by o-tthw mthotttw. — swayed too much the wrong way by a-tiny minority. okay.- swayed too much the wrong way by a tiny minority. o

issue ? i know a school, but issue? i know a school, but that's the problem , that common that's the problem, that common sense has lost its mind. there is sense. we sense has lost its mind. there. is_sense. we haven't is no common sense. we haven't moved— is no common sense. we haven't mowed—eoettom i moved with extreme caution. wewe— moved with extreme caution. we-we—thtel we've just jumped into this gehtet— we've just jumped into this gender debate— we've just jumped into this gender debate where, you know , gender debate where, you know, thee— gender debate where, you know, thete—epoeee- gender debate where, you know, there _ spaces for- there are no safe spaces for women . you-and- there are no safe spaces for women . you and i like i women. you know, and i like i eoe,— women. you know, and i like i ah, t— women. you know, and i like i ah, t howe— women. you know, and i like i said, i have trans— women. you know, and i like i said, i have trans friends, but i said, i have trans friends, but t ooh-t— said, i have trans friends, but t ooh-t ogtee— said, i have trans friends, but t ooh-t ogtee .— said, i have trans friends, but i don't agree . you- said, i have trans friends, but i don't agree . you know, they i don't agree. you know, they are trans women. _ i don't agree. you know, they are trans women. they are not thew— are trans women. they are not women. they should not be eompetthg— women. they should not be eompetthg th— women. they should not be competing in sport. should competing in sport. they should not competing in sport. they should hottoo—m ,- not be in changing rooms, eepeetottw— not be in changing rooms, especially-still- not be in changing rooms, especially still are . especially if they still are. ate— especially if they still are. ate tome— especially if they still are. are trans women trans trans wtth— are trans women trans trans women with penises? i mean, you know,— women with penises? i mean, you know, they— women with penises? i mean, you know, they should— women with penises? i mean, you know, they should not be in ptotee— know, they should not be in places where _ know, they should not be in places where women want to feel eote — places where women want to feel eote . — places where women want to feel eote . the— places where women want to feel eote . the toot— places where women want to feel safe . the fact that— places where women want to feel safe . the fact that he- places where women want to feel safe . ”3tt : safe. the fact that he does say, i believe that biological sex really matters. i'll protect women's rights and women's spaces.is women's rights and women's spaces. is that's great. that's a sentence . that's a great a great sentence. that's a great sentence. and all credit to friend of the show, sam lister. we've on here. we have we've had her on here. we have her on every week. plus covid, who's brought this together, who brought rosie duffield brought together rosie duffield and because and miriam cates because keir starmer can't say that starmer sunak can't say that nigel and won't say that. no, i mean the kiss. i think keir starmer has been unfairly

traduced by his 99.9% of women don't have penises, sort of line . and that's been well, that's been taken as meaning that 1 in 1000 do, which i think is he was using a ballpark figure and he didn't mean in the absolute figure of, well, okay, yes, but he didn't mean the 1 in 1 in a thousand. but when it comes down to the caution bit i was talking about , it is a lot of common about, it is a lot of common sense can come into play. schools are doing this all the time and i know one particular school for instance , where a boy school for instance, where a boy track positioned all the all his mates were happy about that once he became a girl and she then moved into to the girls changing room. and it was the girls who objected. they had no objection to the to her being trans. they just objected to training the same place . the school found

same place. the school found a separate place for her to change. that seems to be what i'm talking about. a common sense solution. that's not hoppehthg. — o“ that's not happening. unfortunately, the gttte— happening. unfortunately, the . gttte—ohoot girls that are complaining about it girls that are complaining about tt th— girls that are complaining about tt th eehoote— girls that are complaining about it in schools and— girls that are complaining about it in schools and i— girls that are complaining about it in schools and i know eoomptee— it in schools and i know examples of— it in schools and i know examples of this are being eottet— examples of this are being eotteo out— examples of this are being called out as— examples of this are being called out as being transphobic. thet— called out as being transphobic. thett potehte— called out as being transphobic. their parents called their parents are being called in their parents are being called th-eowthg— their parents are being called th-eowthg woo-we- their parents are being called in saying, you've got in and saying, you've got a ptohtem— in and saying, you've got a ptohtem-wow- in and saying, you've got a problem your jennifer problem with your jennifer heeooee— problem with your jennifer because transphobic. because she's transphobic. thot-e—otei because she's transphobic.. that's—are not that's not the schools are not hehowhg— that's not the schools are not hehowhglo— that's not the schools are not behaving a sensible way. behaving in a sensible way. thev're_ behaving in a sensible way. thew-te—o- behaving in a sensible way. they're—a the they're behaving in a that's the eommoh—t-mi common sense approach. i'm tottmg— common sense approach. i'm tottmg otoot— common sense approach. i'm talking about .— common sense approach. i'm talking about . okay. each talking about. okay. we each know schools. i'm know different schools. i'm talking one school, which know different schools. i'm t.thought one school, which know different schools. i'm t.thought had one school, which know different schools. i'm t.thought had aie school, which know different schools. i'm t.thought had aie school, sense i thought had a common sense approach to the situation. you're talking about schools that but if we have that don't. yeah, but if we have this sort of common sense kind of along way, that of thing along the way, that would great. and as laws would be great. and as laws change, scotland, you're change, like in scotland, you're always going to come up with anomalies about problems you've got with . so in fact, got to deal with. so in fact, there was there was the unfortunate case of a rapist ending up in a women's jail that has now changed. yeah, but has now been changed. yeah, but the , an snp minister in the the snp, an snp minister in the papers asked again was papers today asked again was isla blair, male or female ? isla blair, male or female? couldn't answer. hang on, he topeo— couldn't answer. hang on, he topet two— couldn't answer. hang on, he raped two women. and then i ttehtttteo— raped two women. and then i identified as— raped two women. and then i

identified as a— raped two women. and then i identified as a woman and hteottetw— identified as a woman and bizarrely was— identified as a woman and bizarrely was put in a woman's onw— bizarrely was put in a woman's only ptteoh— bizarrely was put in a woman's only ptteoh .— bizarrely was put in a woman's only prison . he's— bizarrely was put in a woman's only prison . he's a complete man only prison. he's a complete man hom— only prison. he's a complete man ttom top— only prison. he's a complete man ttom top to— only prison. he's a complete man ttom top to toe.— only prison. he's a complete man from top to toe. how— only prison. he's a complete man from top to toe. how difficult is from top to toe. how difficult te thot— from top to toe. how difficult te thot to— from top to toe. how difficult is that to answer? �*ft�*oll is that to answer? well, not i think that is difficult to answer the point basically is he hasn't had anything removed . he hasn't had anything removed. he she should not be in a woman's jail. that's the important thing. how can an snp minister not know whether a man who raped two is a man or a woman two women is a man or a woman just because he calls just because he now calls himself isla? and that's himself isla isla? and that's where common— himself isla isla? and that's where common sense- “ 537 and that's where common sense has gone. wmch— where common sense has gone. wmch whtch— where common sense has gone. which which you— where common sense has gone. which which you you— where common sense has gone. which which you you want- where common sense has gone. which which you you want common sense where's common sense that where's your common sense? because you're sense? simply because you're mowthg— sense? simply because you're mowthg-otgomeht- 7 simply because you're moving argument on one stage moving the argument on one stage totthet— moving the argument on one stage totthet .— moving the argument on one stage totthet. te— moving the argument on one stage totthet. he he— moving the argument on one stage totthet. he he o— moving the argument on one stage further. is he a he— moving the argument on one stage further. is he a he or she? he's a further. is he a he or she? he's o he.— further. is he a he or she? he's o he. the— further. is he a he or she? he's a he. the biologically he's a he . veoh. — a he. the biologically he's a he . veoh. hot— a he. the biologically he's a he . yeah. but why— a he. the biologically he's a he . yeah. but why can't- a he. the biologically he's a he . yeah. tt3“ . a he. the biologically he's a he . yeah. £3“ l £3 e . yeah. but why can't why can't you say you're self—identifying as a she that makes things rather different. the point here is rather different. the point here te thot— rather different. the point here te thot he— rather different. the point here te thot he ot— rather different. the point here is that he or she— rather different. the point here is that he or she should- : ””o”o“ the point here is that he or she should not be in is that he or she should not be to o— is that he or she should not be in a woman's prison even after topthg— in a woman's prison even after topthg women— in a woman's prison even after topthg . — in a woman's prison even after raping women . he- in a woman's prison even after raping women . o yeah, raping women. he is a he. yeah, he ehooto— raping women. he is a he. yeah, he ehoott he— raping women. he is a he. yeah, he should be in.— raping women. he is a he. yeah, he should be in. he— raping women. o yeah, he should be in. he shouldn't be hoetthg— he should be in. he shouldn't be hoetthg town— he should be in. he shouldn't be backing down on— he should be in. he shouldn't be backing down on this in a

woman's prison. and that's what hee— woman's prison. and that's what me o— woman's prison. and that's what me o he. — woman's prison. and that's what he's a he. anyone— woman's prison. and that's what he's a he. anyone that's a he ehooto— he's a he. anyone that's a he ehoott hot— he's a he. anyone that's a he should not be— he's a he. anyone that's a he should not be in— he's a he. anyone that's a he should not be in a women's ptteom — should not be in a women's prison. should— should not be in a women's prison. should we- should not be in a women's prison. : prison. should we talk about lazy civil servant s oh, oh, yes . i don't think we got. how i”don't think we got. how long . i don't think we got. how long howe— . i don't think we got. how long hove we— . i don't think we got. how long hove we got— . i don't think we got. how long hove we got to— . i don't think we got. how long have we got to be— i don't think we got. how long have we got to be fun? so civil eewohte— have we got to be fun? so civil eewohte — have we got to be fun? so civil servants are demanding a four day— servants are demanding a four day wottthg— servants are demanding a four day working week without losing any-they— day working week without losing any-they - day working week without losing any-they are. yeah.- day working week without losing any “oat 3o yeah. well, any pay? they are. yeah. well, thew-we— any pay? they are. yeah. well, thew-we-got— any pay? they are. yeah. well,| they've - got _yeah, they've already got that. yeah, wett— they've already got that. yeah, hetp-eoeette- they've already got that. yeah, well, _everyone so- they've already got that. yeah, well, everyone so against well, why is everyone so against this idea of a four working this idea of a four day working week? because we're paying them. and week? because we're paying them. amt-omt— week? because we're paying them. and-civil servants- week? because we're paying them. and-civil servants ,- and if they're civil servants, thew-te— and if they're civil servants, thew-te hethg— and if they're civil servants, they're being paid by the toxpowet. — they're being paid by the. taxpayer. _right. but they're being paid by the- taxpayer. _right. but what taxpayer. that's right. but what if taxpayer. that's right. but what tt thew— taxpayer. that's right. but what tt thew wee— taxpayer. 9“ but what if they were productivity if they were their productivity goee— if they were their productivity goee op— if they were their productivity goee op .— if they were their productivity goee op . et— if they were their productivity goes up . 61 companies, for goes up. 61 companies, for heomet— goes up. 61 companies, for instance, have— goes up. 61 companies, for instance, have been experimenting with a four day week.— experimenting with a four day week. tte— experimenting with a four day week. he pott— experimenting with a four day week. it's part of— experimenting with a four day week. it's part of the post—covid- week. it's part of the post—covid reset to see if there are post—covid reset to see if there tttteteht— post—covid reset to see if there are different working arrangements . so flexible arrangements. so flexible wottthg— arrangements. so flexible wottthg te— arrangements. so flexible working is now come in for an owtot— working is now come in for an owtot tot— working is now come in for an owtot tot ot— working is now come in for an awful lot of people . it seems to awful lot of people. it seems to be awful lot of people. it seems to he wohtmg— awful lot of people. it seems to be working, not— awful lot of people. it seems to be working, not every case, be working, not in every case, hot— be working, not in every case, hot tt— be working, not in every case, hot tt eem— be working, not in every case, but it seems to— be working, not in every case, but it seems to be— be working, not in every case, but it seems to be working. ctwt— but it seems to be working. civil servants— but it seems to be working. civil servants are no different for anybody else. if their productivity— for anybody else. if their productivity can remain the same or productivity can remain the same ot go— productivity can remain the same ot go up. — productivity can remain the same ot go up. the— productivity can remain the same or go up. the question- productivity can remain the same or go up. the question is therefore, what were they doing before or how are they wasting their time on a five day week? well it may be the more

motivated by doing a four. they should be motivated by the fact that they're on a really safe job with a great pension and a fantastic salary. can i just say that the civil service suffers from low productivity? yeah,. so we already know— from low productivity? yeah,. so we already know that— :f . ”7 yeah,. so we already know that they're lazy— we already know that they're toew oho — we already know that they're toew opt-hot- we already know that they're lazy and not doing their lazy and they're not doing their top.— lazy and they're not doing their top-ot— lazy and they're not doing their top-oh them.- lazy and they're not doing their job.-of them. okay- lazy and they're not doing their job. of them. okay well, job. not all of them. okay well, a job. not all of them. okay well, o phehomehot— job. not all of them. okay well, a phenomenal-of- job. not all of them. okay well, a phenomenal of them are a phenomenal amount of them are too,— a phenomenal amount of them are tozw oeht— a phenomenal amount of them are tow, oeht thew— a phenomenal amount of them are lazy, aren't they? they're just hot— lazy, aren't they? they're just not tothg — lazy, aren't they? they're just not mm the— lazy, aren't they? they're just not doing the job. “

going to help this situation. thot-tm— going to help this situation. thot-tm thew- going to help this situation. that in. they need to step that we're in. they need to step up heoe— that we're in. they need to step up because .works_ that we're in. they need to step up because works the same as up because it works the same as it up because it works the same as tt wooto— up because it works the same as it would-private- up because it works the same as it would private business it would do in private business thot— it would do in private business thot o— it would do in private business that a number— it would do in private business that a number of— it would do in private business that a number of private businesses— that a number of private businesses was 61 businesses i mean, there was 61 of businesses i mean, there was 61 ot—wtth— businesses i mean, there was 61 ot—wtth tt-tt-ei of experimented with it and it's gone—m- of experimented with it and it's gone—m japan. gone up. microsoft in japan found that the product motty went up considerably by having a four day week. people actually work harder cramming , cramming work harder cramming, cramming the whole thing into more hours. the french are as productive as britain is by thursday, and they do a 35 hour week. so no, i mean, i'm retire at 62 and look at the riots on the streets because he's trying to make him retire at 64. not a great exompte— retire at 64. not a great example france - ”o. ”o it” not a great example france night. \o retire at 64. not a great- example france night. no but woo-e— example france night. no but woo-e got— example france night. no but you've got another one you talk about about pensions and you see what'll happen. yeah, but you mow— what'll happen. yeah, but you mow-wtt— what'll happen. yeah, but you know-will happen- know what will happen eventually. _ know what will happen eventually. we've know what will happen eve to ially. we've know what will happen eve to wrap we've know what will happen eve to wrap it we've know what will happen eve to wrap it up. we've know what will happen eve to wrap it up. but we've know what will happen eve to wrap it up. but whatt've know what will happen eve to wrap it up. but what will got to wrap it up. but what will hoppeh— got to wrap it up. but what will happen eventually that that happen eventually is that that tow— happen eventually is that that tow-week— happen eventually is that that four-week will— happen eventually is that that four week will become four day week will become a thtee— four day week will become a thee-week— four day week will become a three week because they will three day week because they will say,— three day week because they will eow—wott— three day week because they will eow—wott hoto- say, well, i can work hard on thtee— say, well, i can work hard on thee-to— say, well, i can work hard on three -to-days.- say, well, i can work hard on three -to - days. so l say, well, i can work hard oni three-to-days. so as three days to four days. so as much— three days to four days. so as moth-eoppott— three days to four days. so as much support flexible much as i support flexible wohtmg— much as i support flexible working, particularly for potehte— working, particularly for. parents-children, working, particularly for- parents-children, it is parents of young children, it is a parents of young children, it is o goteeho— parents of young children, it is o gooeeho oh— parents of young children, it is a godsend on certain days. but tm— a godsend on certain days. but t-m hot— a godsend on certain days. but i'm not talking—

a godsend on certain days. but i'm not talking about reducing wow— i'm not talking about reducing your week— i'm not talking about reducing your week to— i'm not talking about reducing your week to four— i'm not talking about reducing your week to four days. i think a your week to four days. i think o htt— your week to four days. i think o htt ot— your week to four days. i think a bit of flexibility— your week to four days. i think a bit of flexibility here and thee— a bit of flexibility here and there-bosses- a bit of flexibility here and there-bosses is- a bit of flexibility here and there bosses is bad there from bosses is no bad ththg. — there from bosses is no bad ththg. hot— there from bosses is no bad thing. but anyway , that's the thing. but anyway, that's the tttet—we— thing. but anyway, that's the tttet—we got.- thing. but anyway, that's the. first—we got. these first instalment we got. these two— first instalment we got. these two moe— first instalment we got. these two more this— first instalment we got. these two more this morning in the meet— two more this morning in the meet-momehte- two more this morning in the next moments, we're going next few moments, we're going to be next few moments, we're going to tte—ow- be covering continuing ourj coverage _flight coverage of this raf flight totthg—oel coverage of this raf flight. totthg—oe the taking off from sudan as the gowemmeht— taking off from sudan as the government prepares to bring htthg— government prepares to bring htthg httte— government prepares to bring bring brits home. that's it. next—

good morning. and welcome to the point on gb news. with me andrew tteme— point on gb news. with me andrew tteme omt— point on gb news. with me andrew tteme oho het— point on gb news. with me andrew pierce and bev turner.— point on gb news. with me andrew pierce and bev turner. so- pierce and bev turner. so hteotthg— pierce and bev turner. so breaking news— pierce and bev turner. so breaking news just on your screen here. “ ” screen here. this is the first flight carrying british citizens which has taken off from sudan as a mass evacuation gets underway. thousands of brits are still stranded, but the foreign secretary says that the government determined get government is determined to get them been accused them home. and he's been accused of abandoning his own people. is the huge rescue a is the huge rescue effort a ttttte— is the huge rescue effort a ttttte htt— is the huge rescue effort a little bit too— is the huge rescue effort a little bit too late? we've totteo — little bit too late? we've totteo to — little bit too late? we've talked to senior mp who's talked to a senior mp who's oetehoeo— talked to a senior mp who's defended the— talked to a senior mp who's defended the decision to get otptomote— defended the decision to get diplomats out— defended the decision to get diplomats out first, telling gb wewe— diplomats out first, telling gb news—specific- news there was a specific intelligence _ news there was a specific intelligence threat and pledging

to ptoteet— intelligence threat and pledging to protect women's rights. the ettme— to protect women's rights. the prime minister— to protect women's rights. the prime minister declares he absolutely knows what a woman is and will fight to defend single sex spaces. can his promise help protect those who fear being silenced? eat your heart out. keir starmer and joe biden . he's keir starmer and joe biden. he's 80. keir starmer and joe biden. he's so he-tt— keir starmer and joe biden. he's so men he— keir starmer and joe biden. he's so men he ee— keir starmer and joe biden. he's 80. he'll be 86 in— keir starmer and joe biden. he's 80. he'll be 86 in 6 years time. he 80. he'll be 86 in 6 years time. he eom— 80. he'll be 86 in 6 years time. he eowe hee— 80. he'll be 86 in 6 years time. he says he's going— 80. he'll be 86 in 6 years time. he says he's going to run to be pteetteht— he says he's going to run to be president again.— he says he's going to run to be president again. what a thought . tte— president again. what a thought . tt-e tettttwthg— president again. what a thought . it's terrifying . _ president again. what a thought . it's terrifying . . it's terrifying. that is that the best they can do ? well, it the best they can do? well, it was bad enough— the best they can do? well, it was bad enough last- £3“ :o7 well, it was bad enough last time biden tmmp— was bad enough last time biden versus trump and— was bad enough last time biden versus trump and now we're going to howe— versus trump and now we're going to hove ettem— versus trump and now we're going to have biden versus trump be tmmp— to have biden versus trump be tmmp . — to have biden versus trump be tmmp . ttght— to have biden versus trump be trump . right. let— to have biden versus trump be trump . right. let us- to have biden versus trump be trump. mg“ to have biden versus trump be trump. right. let us know your thoughts on everything we are talking about today. gb views at gbnews.uk. tonya and nigel nelson back in studio as nelson will be back in studio as well. of here's well. but first of all, here's your news with tamsin roberts . your news with tamsin roberts. bev thank you. good morning from the ot— bev thank you. good morning from the gb newsroom. _ bev thank you. good morning from the gb newsroom. it's— bev thank you. good morning from the gb newsroom. it's 11:01.- good morning from the gb newsroom. . “ 0�* '“ the gb newsroom. it's 11:01. an tat— the gb newsroom. it's 11:01. an raf flight has left sudan

reportedly taking evacuees to a uk airfield in cyprus. it comes after the prime minister announced a large scale evacuation of british nationals from the country . raf flights from the country. raf flights leaving outside the capital khartoum will be open to british passport holders with priority being given to the most vulnerable . around 2000 british vulnerable. around 2000 british citizens have already registered in sudan with the foreign office after a 72 hour ceasefire between sudanese army and the paramilitary group rapid support forces was announced at the foreign secretary, james cleverly says the uk has been contacting british nationals directly with evacuation routes . the truth is that we cannot ptettet— . the truth is that we cannot pteotet how— . the truth is that we cannot predict how the— the truth is that we cannot predict how the situation on the wound— predict how the situation on the gtowo wtt— predict how the situation on the ground will develop the conflict has:— ground will develop the conflict hoe oe— ground will develop the conflict hoe oe t— ground will develop the conflict hoe oe t eow— ground will develop the conflict has, as i say, been— has, as i say, been unpredictable. it's been wotottte— unpredictable. it's been volatile. we— unpredictable. it's been volatile. we have said that we are volatile. we have said that we mothe— volatile. we have said that we are unable to— volatile. we have said that we are unable to provide escorts hom— are unable to provide escorts ttom whete— are unable to provide escorts from where british nationals are to the— from where british nationals are to the airhead. _ from where british nationals are to the airhead. they will have

to the airhead. they will have to mote— to the airhead. they will have to make their— to the airhead. they will have to make their own way there, as thteeo— to make their own way there, as thteet hoe— to make their own way there, as indeed has been— to make their own way there, as indeed has been the case for the hottohote— indeed has been the case for the hottohote ot— indeed has been the case for the nationals of other— indeed has been the case for the nationals of other countries. we wtt— nationals of other countries. we will maintain— nationals of other countries. we will maintain this— nationals of other countries. we will maintain this airhead for as will maintain this airhead for oe tohg— will maintain this airhead for oe tohg oe— will maintain this airhead for oe tohg oe we— will maintain this airhead for as long as we can, but the ettoottoh— as long as we can, but the situation does— as long as we can, but the situation does remain. as i say, oohgetom— situation does remain. as i say, oohgetom omt— situation does remain. as i say, dangerous and volatile . �*ft�*oll dangerous and volatile. well, ohott— dangerous and volatile. well, chott ot— dangerous and volatile. well, chott ot the— dangerous and volatile. well, chair of the foreign affairs committee, alicia kearns , told committee, alicia kearns, told gb news the focus is now on getting uk nationals to safety . getting uk nationals to safety. it was an explicit and immediate serious threat— it was an explicit and immediate serious threat to— it was an explicit and immediate serious threat to the lives of our diplomatic— serious threat to the lives of our diplomatic staff and to thoee— our diplomatic staff and to thoee ot— our diplomatic staff and to thoee ot om— our diplomatic staff and to those of any diplomatic office wtthth— those of any diplomatic office within khartoum.— those of any diplomatic office within khartoum. that is why you ott— within khartoum. that is why you ott ot— within khartoum. that is why you oh oh ow— within khartoum. that is why you saw all of our allied partners oeette— saw all of our allied partners oeette to— saw all of our allied partners decide to withdraw their otptomote— decide to withdraw their diplomats in— decide to withdraw their diplomats in immediately because the thteot— diplomats in immediately because the thteot woe— diplomats in immediately because the threat was so— diplomats in immediately because the threat was so severe, however, that— the threat was so severe, however, that is not to say that we wtt— however, that is not to say that we wttt hot— however, that is not to say that we will not see— however, that is not to say that we will not see now foreign omtee— we will not see now foreign office staff— we will not see now foreign office staff deploying alongside the mttttom— office staff deploying alongside the military what— office staff deploying alongside the military what we call rapid oeptowmeht— the military what we call rapid deployment teams who will be hetpthg— deployment teams who will be hetpthg to— deployment teams who will be hetpthg to get— deployment teams who will be helping to get british nationals to eotetw— helping to get british nationals to eotetw .— helping to get british nationals to eotetw . to— helping to get british nationals to safety . to other news now, to safety. to other news now, a tepott— to safety. to other news now, a tepott hoe— to safety. to other news now, a new report has found online tmogee— new report has found online tmogee ot— new report has found online images of children aged as young as images of children aged as young oe hethg— images of children aged as young as seven being abused has risen by as seven being abused has risen to otmoet— as seven being abused has risen by otmoet two— as seven being abused has risen by almost two thirds since 2020.

the— by almost two thirds since 2020. the mtemet— by almost two thirds since 2020. the internet watch _ by almost two thirds since 2020. the internet watch foundation says the number of web pages hosting the most extreme material has doubled in recent years, with children under two years, with children under two years old suffering the most severe abuse. the foundation chief executive says several imagery sexual imagery sorry , imagery sexual imagery sorry, created of children when they're onune created of children when they're online , often in their bedrooms. online, often in their bedrooms. now accounts for almost four in every five cases reported . the every five cases reported. the nspcc has called on the government to ensure website owners are held liable for failing to tackle child sexual abuse on their sites . more than abuse on their sites. more than 8 million households will start receiving a £301 cost of living support payment from the government today . it's the first government today. it's the first of three payments totalling up to £900 for those eligible on benefits such as universal credit or pension credit. the department for work and pensions will send payments automatically and directly to recipients. bank accounts as more than 100

politicians from around the world are calling on the government to drop its anti—strike . bill 121 politician anti—strike. bill 121 politician from countries including australia, france, germany and spain, have signed a statement criticising the legislation. if passed, the bill would force unions to agree minimum levels of service during strikes. the government says its purpose is to protect the lives and livelihoods of the public. grocery inflation has dipped slightly this month, but consumers are still paying more than this time last year. figures from kantar show the rate of which prices increase has slowed to 17.3, from 17.5. supermarket own label sales are up 13.5% year on year, with the very cheapest value line soaring . by 46. online grocery store ocado says it plans to shut its oldest distribution centre , oldest distribution centre,

affecting around 2300 workers. the company says it's going to shift towards robots ic warehouses. the group are closing the site in hatfield in hertfordshire later this year, with plans to open a new automated warehouse in luton next year . the latest hearing in next year. the latest hearing in prince harry's legal battles with the uk press is taking place at the high court in london today. the duke of sussex is suing news group newspapers. the publisher of the sun and the now defunct news of the world over alleged unlawful information gathering. the heanng information gathering. the hearing is expected to last for three days. journalist sally jones says it's a distraction from the king's coronation harry has already made harry has alfeady made himself harry has already made himself petty— harry has already made himself pretty unmullet"— harry has already made himself pretty unpopular with as a lot of pretty unpopular with as a lot ot peopte— pretty unpopular with as a lot ot peopte eee— pretty unpopular with as a lot of people see it,— pretty unpopular with as a lot of people see it, throwing his tomtw— of people see it, throwing his family ohoet— of people see it, throwing his family under a— of people see it, throwing his family under a bus. it looks as though— family under a bus. it looks as though he— family under a bus. it looks as though he te— family under a bus. it looks as though he is still— family under a bus. it looks as though he is still perhaps twthg— though he is still perhaps twthg to— though he is still perhaps ttwthg to keep— though he is still perhaps trying to keep his links with thghhtt— trying to keep his links with england, even— trying to keep his links with england, even though meghan and he howe— england, even though meghan and he hove petty— england, even though meghan and he have pretty much upped sticks and he have pretty much upped sticks oho eeeme— he have pretty much upped sticks oho eeemeo to— he have pretty much upped sticks and seemed to be— he have pretty much upped sticks and seemed to be basing their life and seemed to be basing their ttte ehtttetw— and seemed to be basing their life entirely in— and seemed to be basing their life entirely in california, he wome— life entirely in california, he wohte to— life entirely in california, he

wants to draw— life entirely in california, he wants to draw attention to what he eeee— wants to draw attention to what he sees as wrongdoing by the tohtotte— he sees as wrongdoing by the tabloids. but— he sees as wrongdoing by the tabloids. but think it's also going— tabloids. but think it's also gothg to— tabloids. but think it's also gothg to he— tabloids. but think it's also gothg to he o— tabloids. but think it's also going to be a terrible distraction— going to be a terrible distraction from what ought to be distraction from what ought to he o— distraction from what ought to he o towoue— distraction from what ought to be a joyous occasion. you know, the— be a joyous occasion. you know, the tthg-e— be a joyous occasion. you know, the king's coronation just ten towe— the king's coronation just ten days beforehand— the king's coronation just ten days beforehand . the number of days beforehand. the number of hoote— days beforehand. the number of hoote hethg— days beforehand. the number of books being read— days beforehand. the number of books being read by children in the uh— books being read by children in the uh oee— books being read by children in the uh tw— books being read by children in the uk rose by almost a quarter toet— the uk rose by almost a quarter toet weot.— the uk rose by almost a quarter toet weot. — the uk rose by almost a quarter last year. research— the uk rose by almost a quarter last year. “of.“ the uk rose by almost a quarter last year. to last year. research from the what kids are reading report found it's because social media trends such as tiktok are helping shape reading habits. it found that pupils read over 27 million books in the academic yeah million books in the academic year. that's 24% more than the year. that's 24% more than the year before . for this is gb year before. for this is gb news. more from me shortly . now, news. more from me shortly. now, though, it's back to andrew and . bev. i you'll . het- . you'll have . bev you'll have heard the breaking news in - you'll have heard the breaking th-how.— - you'll have heard the breaking news in _hour. and - - you'll have heard the breaking news in-hour. and spain. news in the last hour. and spain hoe—suooh- has taken off from sudan eotwthg— has taken off from sudan carrying citizens to carrying british citizens to eotetw— carrying british citizens to eotetw . — carrying british citizens to eotetw . tt— carrying british citizens to safety . e “ g“

safety. it follows last night's announcement of a 72 hour ceasefire between ceasefire in the country between the factions . the two warring factions. government has been criticised for government has been criticised tot ottttttthg— government has been criticised for airlifting diplomats out ha,— for airlifting diplomats out ha, hut— for airlifting diplomats out first, but this— for airlifting diplomats out first, but this was defended on gb first, but this was defended on m -wheh— first, but this was defended on m -ttheh we— first, but this was defended on gb when we spoke earlier gb news. when we spoke earlier to the— gb news. when we spoke earlier to the chairman— gb news. when we spoke earlier to the chairman foreign to the chairman of the foreign attotte— to the chairman of the foreign affairs committee, alicia affairs select committee, alicia teome— affairs select committee, alicia kearns,-explicit- affairs select committee, alicia kearns, explicit and kearns, it was an explicit and tmmettote— kearns, it was an explicit and immediate serious threat to the twee— immediate serious threat to the twee ot— immediate serious threat to the twee ot out— immediate serious threat to the lives of our diplomatic staff omt— lives of our diplomatic staff opt to— lives of our diplomatic staff and to those— lives of our diplomatic staff and to those of— lives of our diplomatic staff and to those of any diplomatic ottee— and to those of any diplomatic office within— and to those of any diplomatic office within khartoum. that is why— office within khartoum. that is why you— office within khartoum. that is why you eow— office within khartoum. that is why you ott— office within khartoum. that is why you saw all of— office within khartoum. that is why you saw all of our allied partners decide to withdraw their diplomats in emergency immediately, because the threat was so severe, however, that is not to say that we will not see now foreign office staff deploying alongside the military, what we call rapid deployment teams who will be helping get british nationals helping to get british nationals to safety alicia kearns and back in the studio with us is mark white, our homeland security edhon white, our homeland security editor. first, planes up in the ot— editor. first, planes up in the hote— editor. first, planes up in the hote to— editor. first, planes up in the air. more to follow. - o: first, planes up in the air. more to follow. t/o5 ' “: air. more to follow. yes. and thete— air. more to follow. yes. and there will be lots of aircraft required because we're talking about 4000 people who are british passport holders, many other people who are passport holders of other western nations

who the uk authorities will, if they can try to help out . it's they can try to help out. it's a sort of all hands to the pumps type situation when you're deaung type situation when you're dealing with a conflict zone like this, that if they can, they will help people from other nafions. they will help people from other nations . and it's often a first nations. and it's often a first come, first served basis . come, first served basis. whoever can get to this air base that's secure air base, we're told, in the northern suburbs of the capital, khartoum . but, you the capital, khartoum. but, you know, we say secure. nothing is secure in this very volatile area where those trying to get to this air base have to do it under their own steam. there's no military protection as they make their way to that air base. there are multiple military checkpoints that that anything at any time could hamper their journey north. they could be taken prisoner. anything could happen. one of our viewers has got th— happen. one of our viewers has got to touch.— happen. one of our viewers has got in touch. michael- “ one of our viewers has got in touch. michael thank you, htohoet— got in touch. michael thank you, htehoet. soythg— got in touch. michael thank you, michael. saying i— got in touch. michael thank you, michael. saying i was working in somotto— michael. saying i was working in somottoltew— michael. saying i was working in somalialfew years— michael. saying i was working in somalia few years ago and somalia a few years ago and eyetyththg— somalia a few years ago and. ewetyththg—wot everything blew up in civil war emueo— everything blew up in civil war ensued. ambassador and ensued. the uk ambassador and etott— ensued. the uk ambassador and

etott wee— ensued. the uk ambassador and staff were evacuated by helicopter,— staff were evacuated by helicopter, with the us helicopter, along with the us omhoeeooot— helicopter, along with the us ambassador-a— helicopter, along with the us ambassador a us vessel. me ambassador to a us vessel. me omt— ambassador to a us vessel. me opt-etott— ambassador to a us vessel. me and-staff were— ambassador to a us vessel. me and-staff were left- ambassador to a us vessel. me and staff were left to our and my staff were left to our oewteee— and my staff were left to our own devices abandoned by the own devices and abandoned by the uk. own devices and abandoned by the uh. atteto— own devices and abandoned by the uk. alicia kearns— own devices and abandoned by the uk. alicia kearns talking on the— uk. alicia kearns talking on thte ptogtom — uk. alicia kearns talking on this program suggested that thete— this program suggested that thete woe— this program suggested that there was intelligence which meoht— meant that they got the otttetote— meant that they got the officials what might that officials out. what might that hove— officials out. what might that hove-hott— officials out. what might that have-mark well,- officials out. what might that have _mark well, we. officials out. what might that- have _mark well, we know have been? mark well, we know not just intelligence, but specifically albie. we saw diplomats target edited and this french diplomat who was shot as the fighting raged on. so there's no doubt there was a real threat to those officials , real threat to those officials, those diplomats, other people working for the uk government and other countries around the world, based in khartoum and surrounding areas. so as a priority. that's why they decided to send special forces in to get them out. but sadly , in to get them out. but sadly, there are just too many other people now. and the situation now, although we have a 72 hour ceasefire with so many people in so many different parts , they're so many different parts, they're not in a kind of a rendezvous

point where effectively they were to be picked up by the special forces. there in their homes. so sheltering in place as per the sort of the uk government advice that was interesting. the advice yeetetooy— interesting. the advice yesterday from - “o”o5c “t; the advice yesterday from the foreign omtee,— yesterday from the foreign omtee, etoy— yesterday from the foreign office, stay indoors, stay put. out— office, stay indoors, stay put. hut t— office, stay indoors, stay put. hut t heom— office, stay indoors, stay put. but i heard andrew mitchell, the attteoh— but i heard andrew mitchell, the african minister— but i heard andrew mitchell, the african minister on the radio, he woe— african minister on the radio, he was straining— african minister on the radio, he was straining at the leash to euppott— he was straining at the leash to euppott thot— he was straining at the leash to support that policy because eteotty— support that policy because eteotty t— support that policy because clearly i think— support that policy because clearly i think he thought if peopte— clearly i think he thought if peopte thought— clearly i think he thought if people thought they'd got a home— people thought they'd got a home get— people thought they'd got a chance, get the— people thought they'd got a chance, get the hell out of thee— chance, get the hell out of thete oho — chance, get the hell out of there and get— chance, get the hell out of there and get the road either there and get on the road either to there and get on the road either po-pop,_ there and get on the road either to-pott, whteh— there and get on the road either to-port, which is— there and get on the road either to-port, which is a- there and get on the road either to port, which is a 12 hour to the port, which is a 12 hour othe— to the port, which is a 12 hour ttme—ot- to the port, which is a 12 houri drive—or maybe to the port, which is a 12 hour. drive—or maybe to to the port, which is a 12 hour driv airfield, or maybe to to the port, which is a 12 hour drivairfield, because or maybe to to the port, which is a 12 hour driv airfield, because inevitably to the airfield, because inevitably thee— the airfield, because inevitably thete-gothg— the airfield, because inevitably thete-gothg to— the airfield, because inevitably there-going to be- the airfield, because inevitably there going to be flights there were going to be flights out. — there were going to be flights out. _h- there were going to be flights out. _in thesel out. yeah, i mean, in these situations very use situations it's very much use your judgement there's your own judgement and there's no right or wrong because you just never know what might happen at any point you can stay in house and then the next in your house and then the next second bombed or , or you second it's bombed or, or you know, it's taken over by a rebel faction. you run out of food and ote— faction. you run out of food and ote so— faction. you run out of food and ote so tt— faction. you run out of food and ote so tt te— 5 you run out of food and water. so it is weighing up the optom— water. so it is weighing up the options. what's— water. so it is weighing up the options. what's the best option for options. what's the best option tot me— options. what's the best option tot me tt— options. what's the best option tot me t t— options. what's the best option for me if i can— options. what's the best option for me if i can find a safe toute— for me if i can find a safe toute out— for me if i can find a safe route out of— for me if i can find a safe route out of the- for me if i can find a safe route out of the worst of the

eomttet— route out of the worst of the conflict zone, _ route out of the worst of the conflict zone, then, of course, mohy— conflict zone, then, of course, mohy peopte — conflict zone, then, of course, many people will— conflict zone, then, of course, many people will do that. now, the otttteutty— many people will do that. now, the difficulty i— many people will do that. now, the difficulty i think for many expot— the difficulty i think for many expot httte— the difficulty i think for many expat brits-they— the difficulty i think for many expat brits they in the expat brits is they are in the eoet— expat brits is they are in the egg, th— expat brits is they are in the east, in suburbs— expat brits is they are in the east, in suburbs of khartoum , east, in suburbs of khartoum, omt— east, in suburbs of khartoum, opt to— east, in suburbs of khartoum, opt to get— east, in suburbs of khartoum, opt to get up— east, in suburbs of khartoum, opt to get up to— east, in suburbs of khartoum, and to get up to the northern euhuthe— and to get up to the northern suburbs where— and to get up to the northern suburbs where this airfield is , suburbs where this airfield is, you-te— suburbs where this airfield is, you-e howhg— suburbs where this airfield is, you're having to— suburbs where this airfield is, you're having to travel through mohy— you're having to travel through mohy mttttoty— you're having to travel through many military checkpoints . those many military checkpoints. those that many military checkpoints. those thot wee— many military checkpoints. those that we've spoken _ many military checkpoints. those that we've spoken to, we've heom— that we've spoken to, we've heard others _ that we've spoken to, we've heard others who've been interviewed _ heard others who've been interviewed in— heard others who've been interviewed in these areas eoyhg— interviewed in these areas eoythg, toot— interviewed in these areas eoythg, toot ,— interviewed in these areas saying, look , you know, we just saying, look, you know, we just ooh-t— saying, look, you know, we just ooh-t wom— saying, look, you know, we just ooh-t wont to— saying, look, you know, we just don't want to take— saying, look, you know, we just don't want to take that risk. so tmteoo— don't want to take that risk. so instead, we're— don't want to take that risk. so instead, we're heading out of the— instead, we're heading out of the appal— instead, we're heading out of the capital, we're heading to ptoeee— the capital, we're heading to ptoeee ttte— the capital, we're heading to places like the— the capital, we're heading to places like the port of sudan. now:— places like the port of sudan. how, tt— places like the port of sudan. now, if that's— places like the port of sudan. now, if that's the _ places like the port of sudan. now, if that's the case in etghttteoht— now, if that's the case in significant numbers, head there , them— significant numbers, head there , them tt— significant numbers, head there , then it becomes— significant numbers, head there , then it becomes a maritime eouttoh— , then it becomes a maritime eouttoh oe— , then it becomes a maritime evacuation as well. and we're tott— evacuation as well. and we're out thot— evacuation as well. and we're told that the _ evacuation as well. and we're told that the type 23 frigate, hots— told that the type 23 frigate, hms lancaster— told that the type 23 frigate, hms lancaster ,— told that the type 23 frigate, hms lancaster , they're already hms lancaster, they're already in hms lancaster, they're already to the— hms lancaster, they're already to the tegtoh— hms lancaster, they're already in the region and— hms lancaster, they're already in the region and at sea, is hethg— in the region and at sea, is hethg ptepoteo— in the region and at sea, is being prepared to head there to hetp.— being prepared to head there to hetp. how— being prepared to head there to hetp. how mohy— being prepared to head there to help. how many could that take? wett— help. how many could that take? wen, they— help. how many could that take? wen, they oh— help. how many could that take? well, they can take— help. how many could that take? well, they can take hundreds on hoot.— well, they can take hundreds on boot. t— well, they can take hundreds on boot. t mom— well, they can take hundreds on board. i mean, it— well, they can take hundreds on board. i mean, it has a crew of a board. i mean, it has a crew of o eoupte— board. i mean, it has a crew of o eoupte ot— board. i mean, it has a crew of a couple of hundred. but, you mow,— a couple of hundred. but, you know they— a couple of hundred. but, you know, they could— a couple of hundred. but, you know, they could take many huhtteoe— know, they could take many hundreds on— know, they could take many hundreds on the— know, they could take many hundreds on the ship a short hundreds on the ship as a short tetm— hundreds on the ship as a short term solution.— hundreds on the ship as a short term solution. difficulty term solution. the difficulty they— term solution. the difficulty they-theee- term solution. the difficulty they there's only a they have is there's only a moth— they have is there's only a

small flight— they have is there's only a small flight deck and one hetteoptet— small flight deck and one helicopter attached , usually a helicopter attached, usually a hemm— helicopter attached, usually a merlin helicopter that can take moyhe— merlin helicopter that can take moyhe 20, — merlin helicopter that can take moyhe 20, so,— merlin helicopter that can take maybe 20, 30, 30 _ merlin helicopter that can take maybe 20, 30, 30 people at a ttme— maybe 20, 30, 30 people at a ttme .— maybe 20, 30, 30 people at a ttme . so— maybe 20, 30, 30 people at a ttme . so tt— maybe 20, 30, 30 people at a time . so if you're— maybe 20, 30, 30 people at a time . so if you're suddenly time. so if you're suddenly oeotthg— time. so if you're suddenly dealing with— time. so if you're suddenly dealing with many hundreds of peopte— dealing with many hundreds of peopte ot— dealing with many hundreds of peopte ot the— dealing with many hundreds of people at the port of sudan, you can see how very— people at the port of sudan, you can see how very difficult it is. can see how very difficult it te thete— can see how very difficult it te thete te— can see how very difficult it is. there is another support ehtp— is. there is another support ehtp wtth— is. there is another support ehtp wtth o— is. there is another support ship with a bigger flight deck and ship with a bigger flight deck one the— ship with a bigger flight deck and the ability— ship with a bigger flight deck and the ability to have multiple hetteoptete— and the ability to have multiple helicopters taking off and tohothg— helicopters taking off and tohothg ot— helicopters taking off and landing at the— helicopters taking off and landing at the same time , raaf landing at the same time, raaf cotttgoh— landing at the same time, raaf cototgoh toy.— landing at the same time, raaf cardigan bay. but— landing at the same time, raaf cardigan bay. but unfortunately that cardigan bay. but unfortunately thot we-te— cardigan bay. but unfortunately that we're told,— cardigan bay. but unfortunately that we're told, is— cardigan bay. but unfortunately that we're told, is in a maintenance- that we're told, is in a maintenance period , so it can't maintenance period, so it can't get them— maintenance period, so it can't get thete th— maintenance period, so it can't get there in time— maintenance period, so it can't get there in time .— maintenance period, so it can't get there in time . and as get there in time. and as otwoye— get there in time. and as otwoye you— get there in time. and as always, you know, there are mutttpte— always, you know, there are multiple nations here that have mottttme— multiple nations here that have maritime assets— multiple nations here that have maritime assets that would be otte— maritime assets that would be otte to— maritime assets that would be otte to hetp.— maritime assets that would be able to help. and— maritime assets that would be able to help. and as i say, it's ewetyhooy— able to help. and as i say, it's everybody helping each other in theee— everybody helping each other in these situations.— everybody helping each other in these situations. this this mtght— these situations. this this mtght he— these situations. this this mtght he o— these situations. this this might be a bit— these situations. this this might be a bit of a mean gueettoh— might be a bit of a mean question mark,- might be a bit of a mean question mark, but i always assume that,— question mark, but i always assume that, you know, eyetyththg— assume that, you know, everything you normally do, if thee-e— everything you normally do, if there's-must- everything you normally do, if there's must nearly there's if there must be nearly sooo— there's if there must be nearly 5000 httte— there's if there must be nearly 5000 brits that— there's if there must be nearly 5000 brits that live in sudan at any— 5000 brits that live in sudan at any-pane,— 5000 brits that live in sudan at ohy-potht, oe— 5000 brits that live in sudan at any-point, are they- 5000 brits that live in sudan at any point, are they mainly any given point, are they mainly emptoyeo— any given point, are they mainly emptoyeo-ott— any given point, are they mainly employed _oil and- any given point, are they mainly employed oil and gas employed in the oil and gas industries?— employed in the oil and gas industries? many of them industries? yeah, many of them are industries? yeah, many of them eem-— industries? yeah, many of them ote-th-ott- industries? yeah, many of themi ote-th-ott-goe are employed in the oil and gas thouetty. — are employed in the oil and gas thouetty. hohy— are employed in the oil and gas industry. many people out there tothg— industry. many people out there oohg teoehthg— industry. many people out there doing teaching working. doing teaching jobs or working.

i doing teaching jobs or working. t-tuet— doing teaching jobs or working. t-tuet teoothg— doing teaching jobs or working. i-just reading in- doing teaching jobs or working. i just reading in the i was just reading in the memo— i was just reading in the medical services quite lot medical services quite a lot of uhtwetetttee— medical services quite a lot of universities in— medical services quite a lot of universities in sudan. yeah. so it's universities in sudan. yeah. so he ttte— universities in sudan. yeah. so he the you— universities in sudan. yeah. so it's like you would— universities in sudan. yeah. so it's like you would find in any eott— it's like you would find in any eott ot— it's like you would find in any sort of developing country where thee-e— sort of developing country where thete-e o— sort of developing country where there's a burgeoning of course thee-e— there's a burgeoning of course thete-e o— there's a burgeoning of course there's a well—developed oil and gas there's a well—developed oil and goe eto— there's a well—developed oil and gas sector there— there's a well—developed oil and gas sector there that many tteetem— gas sector there that many western citizens are involved in. western citizens are involved tm hut— western citizens are involved tm hut yee— western citizens are involved tm hut yee ,— western citizens are involved in. but yes , there's the medical in. but yes, there's the medical eewteee— in. but yes, there's the medical eewteee ,— in. but yes, there's the medical eewteee , the— in. but yes, there's the medical services , the charities, all of services, the charities, all of theee— services, the charities, all of theee gtoupe— services, the charities, all of these groups in— services, the charities, all of these groups in sudan will have tteetem— these groups in sudan will have western employees and the htttteh— western employees and the british numbers have been ewetteo— british numbers have been ewetteo to— british numbers have been swelled to 4000 because so many are swelled to 4000 because so many oh hottooy— swelled to 4000 because so many are on holiday with— swelled to 4000 because so many are on holiday with family heoue— are on holiday with family heoue ot— are on holiday with family because of eid. - are on holiday with family because of eid. yeah, and i met— because of eid. yeah, and i think probably— because of eid. yeah, and i think probably out of all the hottome— think probably out of all the nations, there— think probably out of all the nations, there are more brits thet— nations, there are more brits across their british passport hottete— across their british passport holders than _ across their british passport holders than any other nation outetoe— holders than any other nation outetoe thot— holders than any other nation outside that region . so it is outside that region. so it is a etghttteoht— outside that region. so it is a significant and— outside that region. so it is a significant and specific problem that significant and specific problem thot we-te— significant and specific problem that we're facing. _ significant and specific problem that we're facing. we're told thot— that we're facing. we're told thot up— that we're facing. we're told thot up to— that we're facing. we're told that up to maybe 1400 military peteomet— that up to maybe 1400 military personnel from _ that up to maybe 1400 military personnel from the uk may be tmoweo— personnel from the uk may be tmoweo th— personnel from the uk may be involved in these— personnel from the uk may be involved in these efforts in the toye— involved in these efforts in the toye oheoo— involved in these efforts in the toye oheot .— involved in these efforts in the days ahead . that's easy to see days ahead. that's easy to see heoue— days ahead. that's easy to see heoue you— days ahead. that's easy to see because you need— days ahead. that's easy to see because you need the sort of togtettee— because you need the sort of logistics supply_ because you need the sort of logistics supply chains to be otte— logistics supply chains to be otte to— logistics supply chains to be otte to get— logistics supply chains to be

able to get all— logistics supply chains to be able to get all of . yeah. well, able to get all of. yeah. well, you-te— able to get all of. yeah. well, youhe gothg— able to get all of. yeah. well, youhe gothg to— able to get all of. yeah. well, you're going to have to have all of you're going to have to have all ot theee— you're going to have to have all of these transport— you're going to have to have all of these transport aircraft aft mothtotheo— of these transport aircraft aft maintained and— of these transport aircraft aft maintained and turned around potehttotty— maintained and turned around potentially naval naval peteomet— potentially naval naval personnel all involved as well omt— personnel all involved as well one ot— personnel all involved as well and of course— personnel all involved as well and of course but— personnel all involved as well and of course but could they we get to— and of course but could they we get to hot— and of course but could they we get to that point,— and of course but could they we get to that point, troops on the wound— get to that point, troops on the ground certainly— get to that point, troops on the ground certainly to secure this othete.— ground certainly to secure this ottttett. h— ground certainly to secure this airfield. in the— ground certainly to secure this airfield. in the meantime, could thoee— airfield. in the meantime, could those warlords— airfield. in the meantime, could those warlords target the htttteh— those warlords target the british military? i was just going— british military? i was just gomg to— british military? i was just going to say, if something happens one our planes or happens to one of our planes or one of our individuals, what does mean? this does that mean? well this is a difficulty. you never know. does that mean? well this is a dmean,y. you never know. does that mean? well this is a dmean, on you never know. does that mean? well this is a dmean, on on never know. does that mean? well this is a dmean, on on the never know. does that mean? well this is a dmean, on on the pluser know. does that mean? well this is a dmean, on on the plus side,»w. does that mean? well this is a dmean, on on the plus side, you i mean, on on the plus side, you mow,— i mean, on on the plus side, you know we— i mean, on on the plus side, you know we eoy— i mean, on on the plus side, you know, we say warlords. they are hom— know, we say warlords. they are ttom the— know, we say warlords. they are from the sudanese— know, we say warlords. they are from the sudanese military. so, you— from the sudanese military. so, you mow,— from the sudanese military. so, you know the— from the sudanese military. so, you know, the it— from the sudanese military. so, you know, the it was a coup by the— you know, the it was a coup by the mttttoty— you know, the it was a coup by the military that— you know, the it was a coup by the military that took over the county— the military that took over the county th— the military that took over the country in recent— the military that took over the country in recent months. and thete-e— country in recent months. and thete-e o— country in recent months. and now there's a splitting of that mttttoty— now there's a splitting of that military faction— now there's a splitting of that military faction .— now there's a splitting of that military faction . ian. so rather military faction. ian. so rather thoh— military faction. ian. so rather than warlords— military faction. ian. so rather than warlords as— military faction. ian. so rather than warlords as such, they are wtthth— than warlords as such, they are wtthth the— than warlords as such, they are within the sudanese military. hut— within the sudanese military. hut whot— within the sudanese military. but what does— within the sudanese military. but what does that mean really ? but what does that mean really? veoh. — but what does that mean really? veoh. vou— but what does that mean really? yeah. you know,— but what does that mean really? yeah. you know, in— but what does that mean really? yeah. you know, in sudan at this ttme,— yeah. you know, in sudan at this am, the— yeah. you know, in sudan at this am, the the— yeah. you know, in sudan at this time, like the british military , i time, like the british military , t ooh-t— time, like the british military , i don't think— time, like the british military , i don't think they operate by the eome— , i don't think they operate by the same rules— , i don't think they operate by the same rules as— , i don't think they operate by the same rules as you may say thot— the same rules as you may say thot t— the same rules as you may say thot t ththt— the same rules as you may say that i think you— the same rules as you may say that i think you may have a poet.— that i think you may have a potht. thoht— that i think you may have a point. thank you, mark. o

point. thank you, mark. he was poeteu— point. thank you, mark. he was poeteo oh— point. thank you, mark. he was poeteo oh my— point. thank you, mark. he was posted on any developments, won't some breaking won't you? now, some breaking news us. us news just reaching us. us president has president joe biden has officially announced his bid to run for the 2024 us general elections. utterly run for the 2024 us general elections . utterly depressing. elections. utterly depressing. is elections. utterly depressing. te thot— elections. utterly depressing. te thot tte— elections. utterly depressing. is that it? well,— f utterly depressing. is that it? well, yeah . “ is that it? well, yeah. i mean, is that it? well, yeah. i mean, t eoet— is that it? well, yeah. i mean, t eott ot— is that it? well, yeah. i mean, t eott ot howe— is that it? well, yeah. i mean, i sort of have no words really, when it comes to this. the man is in capable. he's incompetent , but he is, i believe , my own , but he is, i believe, my own opinion. i believe his family are completely corrupt. they are bought by the corporate . but i bought by the corporate. but i think he should be— think he should be forced to be put-eoghtttwe- think he should be forced to be put-cognitive test. think he should be forced to be put cognitive test of put through a cognitive test of his put through a cognitive test of hte-hetote— put through a cognitive test of his-before he's- his abilities before he's ottoweo— his abilities before he's allowed-run- his abilities before he's allowed run for this. great. allowed to run for this. great. aho— allowed to run for this. great. amultmogme— allowed to run for this. great. andlimagine how— allowed to run for this. great. andlimagine how that- allowed to run for this. great. and imagine how that would go and i imagine how that would go down the elderly of down with the elderly voters of the of the democratic party. i just at the just we're looking at the campaign here. this is campaign video here. this is joe biden walking around, shaking hands , presumably somebody in hands, presumably somebody in the background telling him where he and what he has do. he is and what he has to do. he'll his notes saying he is and what he has to do. l he'll-his notes saying turn he'll have his notes saying turn tett— he'll have his notes saying turn hete—tel left, turn right. your name is joe— left, turn right. your name is joe ettem — left, turn right. your name is joe biden-the- left, turn right. your name is joe biden. the president joe biden. you're the president of joe biden. you're the president ot—stotee- joe biden. you're the president ot—stotee . - joe biden. you're the president ot—stotee . t- joe biden. you're the president of_states . i thinkj joe biden. you're the president. of_states . i think he of the united states. i think he wttt. — of the united states. i think he wttt. he— of the united states. i think he will. he will win, though? will. he will he win, though? i don't think he's a chance. don't think he's got a chance. i don't think he's got a chance. i don't mean, i think he's don't i mean, i don't think he's got chance necessarily

got a chance of necessarily becoming president. the lead candidate nominated. and of course,-alternative- £3“: : : and of course, alternative could candidate nominated. and of. course,-alternative could be course, the alternative could be homoto— course, the alternative could be kamala harris.— course, the alternative could be kamala harris. who is she? she's course, the alternative could be kanvice harris. who is she? she's course, the alternative could be kanvice presidentlo is she? she's course, the alternative could be kanvice president who'she? she's course, the alternative could be kanvice president who's also phe's the vice president who's also oppotehtty— the vice president who's also apparently totally flipping ueeeeet— apparently totally flipping useless . that's breaking news. useless. that's breaking news. wett— useless. that's breaking news. wet. the— useless. that's breaking news. well, the other— useless. that's breaking news. well, the other person- useless. that's breaking news. well, the other person who would like challenge him, like to challenge him, of course, robert kennedy, i course, is robert kennedy, who i am fan of. he's been am a massive fan of. he's been remarkable. he's got the kennedy legacy. he's interestingly, there's not a lot you can do between him and ron desantis because scandal, where because of scandal, where there's a kennedy . yeah, well, i there's a kennedy. yeah, well, i just love him. now, moving back to the— just love him. now, moving back to the ugh,— just love him. now, moving back to the flight, taking— just love him. now, moving back to the flight, taking off- “ now, moving back to the flight, taking off from suoom— to the flight, taking off from sutom ehe— to the flight, taking off from sudan, we're going to speak now to, to— sudan, we're going to speak now to, to eoy— sudan, we're going to speak now to, to eoy, to— sudan, we're going to speak now to, i'd say, to the— sudan, we're going to speak now to, i'd say, to the former htttteh— to, i'd say, to the former british army— to, i'd say, to the former british army officer, major eehetot— british army officer, major general .cross. - british army officer, major general cross. tim, morning british army officer, major geyou l cross. tim, morning british army officer, major geyou . cross. tim, morning british army officer, major geyou . they've;s. tim, morning british army officer, major geyou . they've got im, morning british army officer, major geyou . they've got onemorning british army officer, major geyou . they've got one plane|g british army officer, major geyou . they've got one plane in to you. they've got one plane in the ot— to you. they've got one plane in the wewe— to you. they've got one plane in the air. we've just— to you. they've got one plane in the air. we've just heard from home— the air. we've just heard from our home security editor. there eouto— our home security editor. there out he— our home security editor. there out he oe— our home security editor. there could be as many— our home security editor. there could be as many as 1400 british mttttoty— could be as many as 1400 british military personnel— could be as many as 1400 british military personnel in sudan otgohtethg— military personnel in sudan organising the— military personnel in sudan organising the evacuation , 4000 organising the evacuation, 4000 peopte.— organising the evacuation, 4000 peopte. thot-e— organising the evacuation, 4000 peopte. thot-e o— organising the evacuation, 4000 people. that's a lot, particularly- people. that's a lot, particularly when we know the emettet— particularly when we know the ceasefire plan _ particularly when we know the ceasefire plan for— particularly when we know the ceasefire plan for three days is wety— ceasefire plan for three days is yety ttogtte— ceasefire plan for three days is yety ttogtte .— ceasefire plan for three days is very fragile . yes— ceasefire plan for three days is very fragile . yes it is. c very fragile. yes it is. it's thewttotty— very fragile. yes it is. it's inevitably so.— very fragile. yes it is. it's inevitably so. and i was listening to your previous

correspondent talking. and to be honest , he's correspondent talking. and to be honest, he's he's given you a very full picture . i'm not sure very full picture. i'm not sure i can add an awful lot more to it other than give a bit a bit more of a flavour maybe of the military side. first of all, i don't think it's a c—130that's going there. be in a going in there. it may be in a 300 400 m, to get those 300 or a 400 m, but to get those sorts numbers out is going to sorts of numbers out is going to take a lot of aeroplanes. so i'm i think it'll be a mixture of land convoys and air. the c—130 can land in desert airstrips very easily . we used to run very easily. we used to run those in the iraq wars and so forth quite easily, but they and they will take probably about a you can cram a couple of hundred people in the back of a c—130. but, you know, not very comfortably. you can get more in an a400m . so you know, getting an a400m. so you know, getting people to that secure location or people getting to that secure location and then running some sort of ferry service using one or more aeroplanes is certainly, i'm sure, part part of the plan . but i thought the most important issue which he did touch on is people have got to

get there and, you know, notwithstanding the fact that it is a ceasefire, it inevitably is chaotic, uncertain , and people chaotic, uncertain, and people will be taking a risk. i remember going through various military checkpoints in the balkans held by serbs and croats and muslims and others, and, you know, a lot of the people manning these checkpoint were were basically thugs . i mean, were basically thugs. i mean, they were often drunk with weapons. and it was a very dodgy business getting in and out. and that a military that was from a military perspective, you know, relatively i was in relatively easy because i was in the with with other the military with with other people me weapons people around me with weapons and but if i was there as and so on. but if i was there as and so on. but if i was there as a father with my wife and a couple children, know, couple of children, you know, it is a risky business. but on the other hand, there's no alternative . if you can't you alternative. if you can't you can't anybody sort of can't have anybody sort of wandering the city wandering around the city aimlessly or trying pick up aimlessly or trying to pick up people homes . it's people from their homes. it's just going to too just just going to be too complicated . tim bevan i were complicated. tim bevan i were tooth— complicated. tim bevan i were hoth poth— complicated. tim bevan i were both, both wondering- £ot“ f: tim bevan i were both, both wondering if the emettte— both, both wondering if the ceasefire is— both, both wondering if the ceasefire is fragile and if the theee— ceasefire is fragile and if the theee two— ceasefire is fragile and if the these two warring factions come htttteh— these two warring factions come across british military were thee—

across british military were thete tot— across british military were there for humanitarian reasons to eoute— there for humanitarian reasons to evacuate british people or ettteem— to evacuate british people or etttzem ot— to evacuate british people or citizens of all— to evacuate british people or citizens of all countries by the eouot— citizens of all countries by the eouht ot— citizens of all countries by the eouht ot n,— citizens of all countries by the sound of it, is— citizens of all countries by the sound of it, is there a potehttot— sound of it, is there a potential military threat to them — potential military threat to them omt— potential military threat to them and if— potential military threat to them and if so,— potential military threat to them and if so, how does that wom— them and if so, how does that wott out— them and if so, how does that wott out a— them and if so, how does that work out ? well,— them and if so, how does that work out ? well, inevitable there work out? well, inevitable there te — work out? well, inevitable there te t— work out? well, inevitable there te t — work out? well, inevitable there te t you— work out? well, inevitable there is. i mean, you know,- work out? well, inevitable there is. i mean, you know, nothing is ever certain in these circumstances. and all choices carry consequences. so if you don't put in a strong military capability, fighting power, combat power, you don't put in sufficient combat strength , sufficient combat strength, there's always a danger that you can end up in a firefight, that you could lose , which is, you you could lose, which is, you know, they undoubtedly the know, why they undoubtedly the mod, with foreign mod, along with the foreign office , particularly mod, office, particularly the mod, will with the will have been with the permanent headquarters permanent joint headquarters in northwood been northwood, who will have been doing planning for doing the military planning for this, will have been working through level of through what sort of level of combat we need to put combat power do we need to put in now? we used to have organisations like five airborne brigade the uk and this organisations like five airborne brigadthis the uk and this organisations like five airborne brigadthis would le uk and this organisations like five airborne brigadthis would have and this organisations like five airborne brigadthis would have beenthis organisations like five airborne brigadthis would have been very would this would have been very much their we still much their business. we still have assault brigade, have 16 air assault brigade, which and which includes paras and helicopters and various other capabilities. so it's a matter of what, what do you put on the ground? you need logistic s, you

need probably to have sort of food and fuel and water and some sort of medical support and so forth . and if they're going to forth. and if they're going to be military people, they will need to have other military around you know, need to have other military aroun not you know, need to have other military aroun not going you know, need to have other military aroun not going to you know, need to have other military aroun not going to put know, need to have other military aroun not going to put kibrigade we're not going to put a brigade in fight our way into in here and fight our way into khartoum. at end the day khartoum. at the end of the day , a secure base and , we will hold a secure base and if necessary, we would , you if necessary, we would, you know, have to have to resist any force that was played against us. but we're not. we are not going to start a fight here. and we will only respond somebody we will only respond if somebody else a hard else tries to give us a hard time. frankly, i don't time. and frankly, i don't think they will. i think with so many other people there from other military people there from other military people there from other nationalities, french and american that american in particular, that they would be stupid to start a fight because will lose. fight because they will lose. let's hope. let's you're let's hope. let's hope you're ttght. — let's hope. let's hope you're right—british. let's hope. let's hope you're. right. _british army right. tim former british army ottteeu— right. tim former british army officer, major—general cross right. tim former british army officeiwellor—general cross right. tim former british army officeiwell that'sneral cross right. tim former british army officeiwell that's reassuring, ross there. well that's reassuring, ten-t— there. well that's reassuring, tent to — there. well that's reassuring, tent to tt— there. well that's reassuring, isn't it? it is— there. well that's reassuring, isn't it? c “t; lotto isn't it? it is reassuring. we just don't know. mildly reassuring.— just don't know. mildly reassuring. but- reassuring. but yeah, you just ooh-t— reassuring. but yeah, you just ooh-t mow. — reassuring. but yeah, you just don't know. and— reassuring. but yeah, you just don't know. and it very don't know. and it is a very wotottte— don't know. and it is a very volatile situation you've been gettthg— volatile situation you've been. gettthg—wete getting in touch about. we were discussing—going getting in touch about. we were d.....s..g_go..g| getting in touch about. we were disa four;_goingl getting in touch about. we were disa four day going getting in touch about. we were disa four day week going getting in touch about. we were disa four day week and going getting in touch about. we were disa four day week and theyg on a four day week and they don-t— on a four day week and they don-t agree— on a four day week and they don't agree nigel. \\ gt; " don't agree with nigel. nigel in

nelson— don't agree with nigel. nigel in nelson nelson thank you very much, you'll listening much, nigel. you'll be listening out the green room. out there in the green room. well, has civil well, darren has said civil servants— well, darren has said civil servants four— well, darren has said civil servants four week. well, darren has said civil servants four-week. me servants four day week. give me a-crossed their- servants four day week. give me a crossed their paths a break. i crossed their paths on a break. i crossed their paths. on-occasions. they're on numerous occasions. they're nowehe— on numerous occasions. they're nowhere—ad nowhere near as productive as they— nowhere near as productive as they eeeme— nowhere near as productive as they should be. _ nowhere near as productive as they should be. tina says they need to get back into their offices. don't don't offices. they don't know. don't know like know about four days, more like six the county six day weeks. if the county planning departments are anything by. and carol. anything to go by. and carol. oh, carol, you've— anything to go by. and carol. oh, carol, you've hit- g gt» and carol. oh, carol, you've hit the nail on oh, carol, you've hit the nail eee-heed.— oh, carol, you've hit the nail on-head.-nearlyl oh, carol, you've hit the nail. on-head.-nearly all on the head. they're nearly all working—ee- on the head. they're nearly alli working—as-now working from home as it is now used— working from home as it is now used-ne— working from home as it is now used-ne ene— working from home as it is now used - no one takes- working from home as it is now used no one takes any used bots, no one takes any phone— used bots, no one takes any phone eeue,— used bots, no one takes any phone calls, even housing associations— phone calls, even housing associations the same. it is associations are the same. it is associations are the same. it is a heat— associations are the same. it is e reeh eeeheeh— associations are the same. it is a real scandal. they've not been made— a real scandal. they've not been made ee— a real scandal. they've not been made to return— a real scandal. they've not been made to return to— a real scandal. they've not been made to return to work. and hee-e— made to return to work. and here-e-hhhe— made to return to work. and here's-thing,-if. made to return to work. and. here's-thing,-if they here's the thing, bev. if they work— here's the thing, bev. if they week he— here's the thing, bev. if they work in london, they're paid a very london waiting very generous london waiting allowance very generous london waiting allowan keeping very generous london waiting allowankeeping it very generous london waiting allowan keeping it even though they're keeping it even though they're working from home. a lot. know. can we have lot. yeah, i know. can we have some that back then, please? some of that back then, please? absolutely no, it just makes my hood— absolutely no, it just makes my hood hen.— absolutely no, it just makes my blood boil.-this.- ' .th no, it just makes my blood boil. this. anyway, blood boil. all of this. anyway, shu— blood boil. all of this. anyway, eem-ceme— blood boil. all of this. anyway, still come, ofsted's chief still to come, ofsted's chief heheeher— still to come, ofsted's chief inspector admitted that inspector has admitted that there— inspector has admitted that there-culture- inspector has admitted that there-culture of- inspector has admitted that there culture of fear there is a culture of fear eeuhe— there is a culture of fear around school- there is a culture of fear around school inspections as weh.— around school inspections as weh. there— around school inspections as well. there has— around school inspections as well. there has to be, doesn't theee— well. there has to be, doesn't there? otherwise— well. there has to be, doesn't there? otherwise what's what's eheh— there? otherwise what's what's eheh job?— there? otherwise what's what's their job? you're— there? otherwise what's what's their job? you're with gb there? otherwise what's what's

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radio. good morning. . “i2“; radio. good morning. it is 1125. hee-he— radio. good morning. it is 1125. hee-he weh— radio. good morning. it is 1125. you're with gb news to the point with me. bev turner. andrew pierce . well, ofsted is chief pierce. well, ofsted is chief inspector has admitted there's a culture of fear around school inspections. it comes after widespread anger about the school inspection system in england, which was prompted by the death of head teacher ruth perry. we're going to hear more hem— perry. we're going to hear more hem sh— perry. we're going to hear more now from sir zahawi, _ airy we're going to hear more now from sir zahawi, who's the eeehe — now from sir zahawi, who's the executive head— now from sir zahawi, who's the executive head at— now from sir zahawi, who's the executive head at saint thomas seheeh— executive head at saint thomas school-london. _ executive head at saint thomas school london. good morning school in london. good morning to--— school in london. good morning to-- have— school in london. good morning to-- have we— school in london. good morning to-- have we get— school in london. good morning to . have we got you there? to you. have we got you there? vee— to you. have we got you there? you — to you. have we got you there? you eoee— to you. have we got you there? you are. good morning to you. eoee— you are. good morning to you. good morning— you are. good morning to you. good morning .— you are. good morning to you. good morning . so— you are. good morning to you. good morning . so your do you good morning. so your do you share— good morning. so your do you ehee thie— good morning. so your do you share this view— good morning. so your do you share this view that there's a where— share this view that there's a euhure eh— share this view that there's a culture of fear— share this view that there's a culture of fear around ofsted hepeehehe— culture of fear around ofsted inspections ? _ culture of fear around ofsted inspections? vehicle culture of fear around ofsted inspections ? vehicle (dc. inspections? well, of course there is . with any- sm; with any accountability method ”h22; with any accountability method , there is. with any— accountability method , you're accountability method, you're ehveye— accountability method, you're ehweye gehg— accountability method, you're ehweye gehg he— accountability method, you're always going to get anticipation and e— always going to get anticipation and a hit— always going to get anticipation and e hh eh— always going to get anticipation and a bit of worry— always going to get anticipation and a bit of worry how well yee-h— and a bit of worry how well yee-h he. — and a bit of worry how well you'll do. and— and a bit of worry how well you'll do. and i'm- and a bit of worry how well you'll do. ': and a bit of worry how well you'll do. ' 2 : you'll do. and i'm just pleased that someone's finally talking about ofsted because i do think it's important , but it's not fit it's important, but it's not fit

for purpose at the moment, because usually when you are held accountable, you sort of know what you're held accountable for . know what you're held accountable for. and when know what you're held accountable for . and when the accountable for. and when the ofsted can happily say, well, we're going to ignore academic outcomes , the very things that outcomes, the very things that are most important to the parents the pupils parents and the pupils headteachers start to worry, well, what are being measured well, what are we being measured upon? yes, there all head upon? so yes, there all head teachers, especially in good schools, will worry about ofsted. after all, there's the only measure that the parents have in order to send their pupils, their kids to your school, which means that's where your funding stream goes and it's a shame that it's taken the death of that poor lady to actually start thinking, well, is ofsted fit for purpose at the moment? what's it providing? it went missing for two years dunng went missing for two years during covid, no bottom line in terms of what do we expect from our schools during that point? no one discussed what was ofsted doing while schools were merely doing while schools were merely doing as they pleased, which meant that the disadvantaged pupils were further

disadvantaged. so on one hand, yes , i'm glad that the focus is yes, i'm glad that the focus is now looking at ofsted to see what it's about. it's never been developmental, it's never been supportive, it's been purely judgemental . um, and it's about judgemental. um, and it's about time it got looked at. but on the other hand, i will say we've now got an open goal to the left leaning unions who would quite happily do away with ofsted because they don't want accountability in schools . and accountability in schools. and i've been teaching long enough to know that that's a disaster. sir, you're a breath of fresh h-ve— sir, you're a breath of fresh air. i've never— sir, you're a breath of fresh air. i've never spoken to you before,— air. i've never spoken to you before ahe— air. i've never spoken to you before and h— air. i've never spoken to you before, and i love- air. i've never spoken to you before, and i love it when i come across teachers who are so ehehehh— come across teachers who are so ehehghh forward— come across teachers who are so straight forward and have some eoee— straight forward and have some good ete— straight forward and have some good old fashioned values . what good old fashioned values. what should— good old fashioned values. what should ofsted— good old fashioned values. what should ofsted be— good old fashioned values. what should ofsted be judging schools on then— should ofsted be judging schools on then e — should ofsted be judging schools on then ? well,— should ofsted be judging schools on then ? well, first— should ofsted be judging schools on then ? �*fh222 �*" 3�*2 on then? well, first and foremost , on then? well, first and foremost, performance. now, let's take let's take for granted the health and safety factor, which actually i think should be outsourced for to experts who know what they're doing . and let's get these

doing. and let's get these experts into schools far more regularly to check out the health and safety . but ofsted health and safety. but ofsted should be coming in. and as i've already said , let's look at what already said, let's look at what parents and pupils really need and want from schools. so how about we just start with outcomes ? we've got this outcomes? we've got this progress eight measure which unfortunately the media, you lot never get hold of this in terms of what do parents want to know about a school? well i know i'm about a school? well i know i'm a parent. i don't know if you two and how much progress two are and how much progress will a child make when they go to that school? we have that measure. we've had it for a while. i'll listen . i might go while. i'll listen. i might go off piste here because this has been up for years. been winding me up for years. you , we've you go off piste you know, we've you go off piste if you like. you and me both, -nw goo— if you like. you and me both, sir. now got two year sir. we've now got two year groups schools. but groups in secondary schools. but because mr williamson, who because our mr williamson, who got knighthood it, can you got a knighthood for it, can you imagine that you know has we had two year groups who have not been measured on sats. so there's no benchmark in order to measure progress. no one's talked about that because no one's interested in outcomes.

and i've spent all my teaching career teaching in inner city schools where outcomes are really, really important . and really, really important. and it's about time someone started to talk about them. i think the ofsted remit is far too wide . ofsted remit is far too wide. let's just concentrate on schools and someone else can do prison. someone else can do the care homes. et cetera. et cetera . but i've had lots and lots of deaungs . but i've had lots and lots of dealings with ofsted . dealings with ofsted. credibility is an issue . um. and credibility is an issue. um. and let's get back to basics and let's get back to basics and let's parent decide. what do they want from ofsted? let's let ordinary people what do we want an end. when you can ignore outcomes, i'm sorry you lose me on that one. can i just take you back though, where this this conversation began? and i think bev conversation began? and i think new one— conversation began? and i think new and h— conversation began? and i think new and h nonh— conversation began? and i think bev and i both agree— 2 3“ and i think bev and i both agree with what wow-ne— bev and i both agree with what wow-e sawho— bev and i both agree with what wow-e eowhng, hun— bev and i both agree with what you're saying, but the death by swede— you're saying, but the death by suicide of— you're saying, but the death by suicide of ruth— you're saying, but the death by suicide of ruth perry , the suicide of ruth perry, the headteacher— suicide of ruth perry, the headteacher was tragic and she hoo— headteacher was tragic and she had been— headteacher was tragic and she had been stressed— headteacher was tragic and she had been stressed about her. the meteo— had been stressed about her. the ofsted inspection— had been stressed about her. the ofsted inspection ,— had been stressed about her. the ofsted inspection , which was ofsted inspection, which was poor— ofsted inspection, which was poor on— ofsted inspection, which was poor for her— ofsted inspection, which was poor for her personally on

leadership,— poor for her personally on leadership, but- poor for her personally on leadership, but nobody seriously ewegeehno— leadership, but nobody seriously ewggeehng, one— leadership, but nobody seriously suggesting, are they, that a swede— suggesting, are they, that a suicide he— suggesting, are they, that a suicide he o— suggesting, are they, that a suicide is a result of an ofsted heneehon. — suicide is a result of an ofsted inspection. these— suicide is a result of an ofsted inspection. these things, as you know,— inspection. these things, as you know, are there— inspection. these things, as you know, are there much more multi—layered,_ know, are there much more multi—layered, much more oonnhew— multi—layered, much more eonpheo, hun— multi—layered, much more complex, but it— multi—layered, much more complex, but it seems ofsted it oeoeo — complex, but it seems ofsted it seems ofsted has— complex, but it seems ofsted it seems ofsted has been blamed for that seems ofsted has been blamed for when no— seems ofsted has been blamed for when thon— seems ofsted has been blamed for that now that media, the media, the that now that media, the media, ohe neon— that now that media, the media, the neon hoe— that now that media, the media, the media has got— that now that media, the media, the media has got hold of it so— the media has got hold of it so of— the media has got hold of it now. so of course- the media has got hold of it now. 2.n2.n. 2c the media has got hold of it- now. so of course they will want to make things very simple. there's got to be other things going on. you know, i'm really sorry for the family and it might have been the straw that broke the camel's back or whatever, but, know, i can't whatever, but, you know, i can't i agree with you, andrew. i don't believe this is a single issue issue for the lady. i don't know her. it's just sad . don't know her. it's just sad. but certainly ofsted is stressful. the threat of ofsted is stressful and the outcomes of a poor ofsted are huge for any school and it shouldn't be underestimated. but it would be helpful if what ofsted came in and measured at the moment they're coming in and looking at they're coming in and looking at the curriculum. it's all

curricular based and once again they're forgetting the quality side of things as opposed to what's being taught, how about they concentrate on how well it's been taught? wouldn't that be a breath of fresh air? but sir, you're you, andrew. there's more to that other story. but if it has brought to light and a conversation about education at the moment and the last three years, well i've for one you know and pleased about that but terribly sorry that it's happened absolutely . you're the happened absolutely. you're the executive head— happened absolutely. you're the executive head at— happened absolutely. you're the executive head at saint- 2 a; you're the executive head at saint thomas in executive head at saint thomas h honoon. — executive head at saint thomas in london. what— executive head at saint thomas in london. what does that mean one— in london. what does that mean one when-e— in london. what does that mean one when-e wow— in london. what does that mean and what's your school like? wow.— and what's your school like? wow. h— and what's your school like? well, it means— and what's your school like? well, it means a— and what's your school like? well, it means a lot- and what's your school like? well, it means a lot of- and what's your school like? well, it means a lot of things. up well, it means a lot of things. up until september , where i was up until september, where i was headteacher at sacred heart school in camberwell , um, over school in camberwell, um, over the years i've been drawn into helping out schools that are most probably had a terrible inspection and so on. so you get sucked into helping and supporting and then unfortunately you get to making certain decisions and then you're stuck with you've got

900, you've got 1000 kids to worry about . 900, you've got 1000 kids to worry about. i'm afraid i've never been one to sort of walk away . so you never been one to sort of walk away. so you end up never been one to sort of walk away . so you end up attached to away. so you end up attached to away. so you end up attached to a school, you tend to appoint the head teacher and then they give you this executive role that be interpreted as you that can be interpreted as you like. in the old days , if you like. in the old days, if you had one school and you did a good job there, that was plenty . um, that's not same . um, that's not the same anymore with the mats. and goodness knows what other layers of education are going on. but what i do know is a bit of a free for all at the minute and what i do know about free for alls is that the disadvantaged tend to come off second best. yeah yeah, absolutely. just one last question. what's- yeah yeah, absolutely. just one last question. what's the- last question. what's the relationship— last question. what's the relationship like, do you think, oooow— relationship like, do you think, today when— relationship like, do you think, today with schools and parents noehwe— today with schools and parents positive on— today with schools and parents positive or negative? depends on the positive or negative? depends on one eehooh — positive or negative? depends on one eehooh .— positive or negative? depends on the school. i know— positive or negative? depends on the school. 2 the school. i know my schools. i'm fortunate that i've got really good schools, both my schools in terms of our comes saint thomas, the apostle top performing all boys school in the country . okay. you might be

the country. okay. you might be interested. you might not. so my parents are great. i'm oversubscribed. if they don't like what i'm doing, i will kindly invite them to go and find another school. amazing you're brilliant, serge. we've got— you're brilliant, serge. we've got no— you're brilliant, serge. we've goo no nove— you're brilliant, serge. we've got to move on.— you're brilliant, serge. we've got to move on. do come back henn— got to move on. do come back oeoh eno— got to move on. do come back ogohn one now— got to move on. do come back again and talk to— got to move on. do come back again and talk to us another how. — again and talk to us another how. -wow— again and talk to us another how. -wow eo- again and talk to us another day. you so much. serge day. thank you so much. serge zohowh—vew- day. thank you so much. serge. zahawi,—very welcome. day. thank you so much. serge. zahato _very welcome. day. thank you so much. serge zahato come very welcome. day. thank you so much. serge zahato come , very welcome. day. thank you so much. serge zahato come , more'ery welcome. day. thank you so much. serge zahato come , more top welcome. day. thank you so much. serge zahato come , more top stories|e. still to come, more top stories with— still to come, more top stories whh tanya— still to come, more top stories with tanya and— still to come, more top stories with tanya and nigel. but first of with tanya and nigel. but first oh oh.— with tanya and nigel. but first oh oh. wow— with tanya and nigel. but first oh oh. wow .— with tanya and nigel. but first of all, your . news thanks very of all, your. news thanks very much— of all, your. news thanks very much . — of all, your. news thanks very much . wo— of all, your. news thanks very much . it's1134._ of all, your. news thanks very much . c “25/2 222; much. it's 1134. here's the latest from the newsroom. president joe biden has officially announced he's running for re—election in 2024. he's released a campaign video saying the next election will be a fight for democracy and personal freedom. the us president also confirmed that vice president kamala harris will again run alongside him. joe biden is the oldest president in us history at 80 years old, sparking scepticism among democrat voters over whether or not he should run a second term . an raf flight has

second term. an raf flight has left sudan reportedly taking evacuees to a uk airfield in cyprus. it comes after the prime minister announced a large scale evacuation of british nationals from the country. raf flights leaving outside the capital khartoum will be open to british passport holders, with priority being given to the most vulnerable around 2000 british citizens have already registered in sudan with the foreign office after a 72 hour ceasefire between the sudanese army and a paramilitary group was announced . the foreign secretary, james cleverly , says the uk has been cleverly, says the uk has been contacting british nationals directly with evacuation routes. the truth is that we cannot predict how the situation on the ground will develop the conflict has, as i say, been unpredictable. it's has, as i say, been unpredictable . it's been unpredictable. it's been whethe— unpredictable. it's been wohohhe .— unpredictable. it's been volatile . we— unpredictable. it's been volatile . we have- c. 2 2 it's been volatile . we have said that we volatile. we have said that we are volatile. we have said that we wnohhe— volatile. we have said that we are unable to— volatile. we have said that we are unable to provide escorts hon— are unable to provide escorts from where— are unable to provide escorts from where british nationals are to one— from where british nationals are to the airhead. _ from where british nationals are to the airhead. they will have

to the airhead. they will have to none— to the airhead. they will have to make their— to the airhead. they will have to make their own way there, as hoeeo— to make their own way there, as hoeeo hoe— to make their own way there, as indeed has been— to make their own way there, as indeed has been the case for the neonate— indeed has been the case for the nohonoh oh— indeed has been the case for the nationals of other— indeed has been the case for the nationals of other countries. we whh— nationals of other countries. we will maintain— nationals of other countries. we will maintain this— nationals of other countries. we will maintain this airhead for as will maintain this airhead for on hone— will maintain this airhead for on long oe— will maintain this airhead for as long on we— will maintain this airhead for as long as we can, but the ehhwohhon— as long as we can, but the situation does— as long as we can, but the situation does remain, as i say, dangerous— situation does remain, as i say, oongenowe one— situation does remain, as i say, dangerous and volatile , a new dangerous and volatile, a new epon— dangerous and volatile, a new nenon hoe— dangerous and volatile, a new report has found— dangerous and volatile, a new report has found online images of ehhhhhen— report has found online images of children as— report has found online images of children as young as seven hehng— of children as young as seven hehng eeowohhw— of children as young as seven being sexually abused has risen by anon— being sexually abused has risen by ohnoeh two— being sexually abused has risen by almost two thirds since 2020. he— by almost two thirds since 2020. hhe hnhenneh— by almost two thirds since 2020. the internet watch _ by almost two thirds since 2020. the internet watch foundation says the number of web pages hosting the extreme material has doubled in recent years , with doubled in recent years, with children under two years old suffering the most severe abuse. the nspcc has called on the government to ensure website owners are held liable for failing to tackle child sex abuse on their sites . more than abuse on their sites. more than 8 million households will start receiving a £301 cost of living support payment from the government today . it's the first government today. it's the first of three payments totalling £900 for those eligible on benefits such as universal credit or pension credit. the department for work and pensions will send

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people's channel. britain is wohehhng .— people's channel. britain is wohehhng . — people's channel. britain is watching . 1040- people's channel. britain is watching . �*o/�*o c15 people's channel. britain is- watching . 1040 now on gb news. watching. 1040 now on gb news. now many of you might think you've still got a book in you. well, you might think perhaps that ship has sailed. well, think again. that's right. hhhenw— think again. that's right. literary agency- 5225 2 that's right. literary agency jenny 252 2 that's right. literary agency jenny brown aeooehohee— literary agency jenny brown associates have— literary agency jenny brown associates have launched an owne— associates have launched an award hon— associates have launched an award for debut— associates have launched an award for debut novelists in the uk award for debut novelists in the un ogee— award for debut novelists in the un ogee so— award for debut novelists in the we ogee so one— award for debut novelists in the uk aged 50 and above. �*2fhh24c uk aged 50 and above. well, gohng— uk aged 50 and above. well, gohng ho— uk aged 50 and above. well, we're going to speak to angie no more. she had her first novel published. are we allowed to say this her 50th year rave this in her 50th year to rave reviews ? good morning, georgina, reviews? good morning, georgina, and congratulations. was and congratulations. what was your your book called ? your what's your book called? it's garnett girls. it's called the garnett girls. ano— it's called the garnett girls. one wee.— it's called the garnett girls. one wee. hh— it's called the garnett girls. and yes, it was— it's called the garnett girls. and yes, it was published this ween— and yes, it was published this ween eno— and yes, it was published this ween and h— and yes, it was published this ween and h on— and yes, it was published this year and i am now 50. so eeonehno.— year and i am now 50. so georgina, it's— year and i am now 50. so georgina, it's so- year and i am now 50. so georgina, it's so obvious really when— georgina, it's so obvious really when we— georgina, it's so obvious really when we gen— georgina, it's so obvious really when we gen ho— georgina, it's so obvious really when we get to this sort of time in when we get to this sort of time hn hhe.— when we get to this sort of time hn hhe. w-wee— when we get to this sort of time in life, we've got— when we get to this sort of time in life, we've got experience . in life, we've got experience. we— in life, we've got experience. we know— in life, we've got experience. we know when— in life, we've got experience. we know what we're- in life, we've got experience. we know what we're talking about . who can write a novel in their 20s and 30? this is obvious . . who can write a novel in their 20s and 30? this is obvious. i think one of the things i have another job think one of the things i have anotherjob and my otherjob is as a book publicist. i work at midas pr and— as a book publicist. i work at midas pr and i— as a book publicist. i work at midas pr and i work- 2. i work at midas pr and i work with quite a lot midas pr and i work with quite a hoe oh— midas pr and i work with quite a

hoe oh owhhon— midas pr and i work with quite a lot of authors who— midas pr and i work with quite a lot of authors who have been ohoen— lot of authors who have been ohoen h— lot of authors who have been older. i work— lot of authors who have been older. i work with— lot of authors who have been older. i work with one called who— older. i work with one called who one— older. i work with one called julia and moylan , who first got julia and moylan, who first got her julia and moylan, who first got he he— julia and moylan, who first got her first book— julia and moylan, who first got her first book deal at 60 and hhhnh— her first book deal at 60 and hhhnh ghwen— her first book deal at 60 and think, given that— her first book deal at 60 and think, given that the mainstay of think, given that the mainstay oh hook— think, given that the mainstay of book sales— think, given that the mainstay of book sales is— think, given that the mainstay of book sales is women 40 to 70 ween— of book sales is women 40 to 70 ween ohe.— of book sales is women 40 to 70 ween ohe. hh— of book sales is women 40 to 70 years old, it seems— of book sales is women 40 to 70 years old, it seems ridiculous hhoh— years old, it seems ridiculous than we— years old, it seems ridiculous that we wouldn't— years old, it seems ridiculous that we wouldn't have authors of then— that we wouldn't have authors of that oge— that we wouldn't have authors of one age wnhhne— that we wouldn't have authors of that age writing their first hoohe. — that age writing their first hoohe. one — that age writing their first books. and as— that age writing their first books. and as you say , bringing books. and as you say, bringing hheh— books. and as you say, bringing their experience— books. and as you say, bringing their experience and wisdom to their experience and wisdom to he howe— their experience and wisdom to the table, which— their experience and wisdom to the table, which is invaluable . the table, which is invaluable. weh.— the table, which is invaluable. wehh. how— the table, which is invaluable. wehh. how ohe— the table, which is invaluable. well, how did your— the table, which is invaluable. well, how did your book- the table, which is invaluable. well, how did your book come about ? what was your inspiration about? what was your inspiration set on the isle of wight? isn't it? i can't wait read it. by it? i can't wait to read it. by the way, it sounds right up my street, but how difficult was it? some would say, it? because some would say, well, your georgina, well, at your age, georgina, you might have the confidence to might not have the confidence to contact publisher . well, i contact a publisher. well, i mean , i was very lucky in that mean, i was very lucky in that i work in the industry, so i knew everyone , although that did everyone, although that did actually make it sometimes even more terrifying knowing the people that would be reading it. but yes, i think i kind of just got— but yes, i think i kind of just eon ho— but yes, i think i kind of just ooh ho hhe— but yes, i think i kind of just got to the stage _ but yes, i think i kind of just got to the stage where i knew i hoo— got to the stage where i knew i had something— got to the stage where i knew i had something to— got to the stage where i knew i had something to say. and before when— had something to say. and before hhohlwoen-h— had something to say. and before thathasn't sure— had something to say. and before thathasn't sure i— had something to say. and before that wasn't sure i had that i wasn't sure i had onwhhhng— that i wasn't sure i had anything different and anything different to say. and for anything different to say. and hon-hh— anything different to say. and hon-ho woe— anything different to say. and for-it was all— anything different to say. and for it was all about the

for me, it was all about the hhnhne— for me, it was all about the hhnhne one— for me, it was all about the timing and kind— for me, it was all about the timing and kind i wrote in timing and kind of i wrote it in hoehhown— timing and kind of i wrote it in hoehhown-he- timing and kind of i wrote it in lockdown. be surprised lockdown. you won't be surprised to lockdown. you won't be surprised ho heon — lockdown. you won't be surprised ho heon ano— lockdown. you won't be surprised to hear. and .was_ lockdown. you won't be surprised to hear. andlwas a— lockdown. you won't be surprised to hear. and was a of to hear. and it was a kind of onelhhoee— to hear. and it was a kind of one .those -or- to hear. and it was a kind of one those or never one of those now or never nonenhe— one of those now or never moments where- one of those now or never moments where just thought, if moments where i just thought, if i moments where i just thought, if h-oo— moments where i just thought, if h-oo hh— moments where i just thought, if h-oo hh-whhh— moments where i just thought, if i-do it-with the- moments where i just thought, if i do it with the extra i don't do it now with the extra hhe— i don't do it now with the extra hhnelhowe.— i don't do it now with the extra time ihave,-never- i don't do it now with the extra time have, never it. time i have, i'll never do it. oh— time i have, i'll never do it. oh you— time i have, i'll never do it. oh you howhng— time i have, i'll never do it. did you having worked- time i have, i'll never do it. did you having worked in the industry, you know how good and bad reviews can be of book? bad reviews can be of a book? georgina how nervous were you when reviews came out? when those reviews came out? because didn't need be, because you didn't need to be, of course, because i can just see one. a brilliant debut and powerful tale of sisterhood and home, beautiful home, said on the beautiful beaches of wight. beaches of the isle of wight. but course it could gone but of course it could have gone the of those the other way. some of those reviews. thank you so much. yes, that's it was absolutely newe— yes, that's it was absolutely nerve wracking._ yes, that's it was absolutely nerve wracking. don't think nerve wracking. i don't think when-e— nerve wracking. i don't think that's—toi that's actually ever going to change.— that's actually ever going to change and— that's actually ever going to change. and now i've had few change. and now i've had a few howehw— change. and now i've had a few howehw oee— change. and now i've had a few lovely ones under— change. and now i've had a few lovely ones under my belt, but it lovely ones under my belt, but he ooeen-h— lovely ones under my belt, but it doesn't seem— lovely ones under my belt, but it doesn't seem to— lovely ones under my belt, but it doesn't seem to make you feel thon— it doesn't seem to make you feel than one— it doesn't seem to make you feel than he new— it doesn't seem to make you feel that the next one— it doesn't seem to make you feel that the next one couldn't be a horror— that the next one couldn't be a horror .— that the next one couldn't be a horror . eo— that the next one couldn't be a horror . so h— that the next one couldn't be a horror . so i think— that the next one couldn't be a horror. so i think you're just ohwowe— horror. so i think you're just always worrying,— horror. so i think you're just always worrying, but i think you orohohhw— always worrying, but i think you orohohhw ger— always worrying, but i think you orohohhw oer ro— always worrying, but i think you orohohhw oer ro o— always worrying, but i think you probably get to a stage where you— probably get to a stage where you eron— probably get to a stage where you earn ro— probably get to a stage where you start to see— probably get to a stage where you start to see that you've got some readers who— you start to see that you've got some readers who love the book one— some readers who love the book one-readere— some readers who love the book one-readere ore— some readers who love the book and-readers are out- some readers who love the book and readers are out there and your readers are out there one— and your readers are out there one-oh— and your readers are out therei and-all-writing and think it's all about writing the and think it's all about writing rhe heer— and think it's all about writing the best book— and think it's all about writing the best book you and the best book you can and finding— the best book you can and finding those— the best book you can and finding those readers and going out finding those readers and going our oe— finding those readers and going our oe nweh— finding those readers and going out as much as—

finding those readers and going out as much as possible to go one— out as much as possible to go one neer— out as much as possible to go and meet those— out as much as possible to go and meet those readers as well. whor— and meet those readers as well. whet—nowhe- and meet those readers as well. what—advice be?- what would your advice be? there'll watching there'll be people watching this, morning, georgina, there'll be people watching this, think,rorning, georgina, there'll be people watching this, think, i've ng, georgina, there'll be people watching this, think, i've got georgina, there'll be people watching this, think, i've got aeorgina, there'll be people watching this, think, i've got a booka, there'll be people watching this, think, i've got a book in who think, i've got a book in me. what would your advice be to get started? i think i got some when— get started? i think i got some brilliant advice— get started? i think i got some brilliant advice from - 92. 2“ i think i got some brilliant advice from writers. i know.— brilliant advice from writers. i know. when— brilliant advice from writers. i know, which is— brilliant advice from writers. i know, which is just you can't do onwrhhng— know, which is just you can't do anything better— know, which is just you can't do anything better than put pen to paper— anything better than put pen to paper or— anything better than put pen to paper or per— anything better than put pen to paper or per on— anything better than put pen to paper or get on your toes. you get— paper or get on your toes. you oer on— paper or get on your toes. you oer on your— paper or get on your toes. you get on your keyboard because you just get on your keyboard because you peer-ro— get on your keyboard because you peer-ho per— get on your keyboard because you peer-ho per one— get on your keyboard because you just to get the words down. just have to get the words down. at just have to get the words down. or he— just have to get the words down. or he eno— just have to get the words down. or he end-day- just have to get the words down. or he end-day .- just have to get the words down. at the end day , that is at the end of the day, that is rearw— at the end of the day, that is really-challenge.- at the end of the day, that is really challenge. if you really the challenge. but if you eron— really the challenge. but if you eronlper— really the challenge. but if you eronlper rhe— really the challenge. but if you start get the words down, start to get the words down, i horne— start to get the words down, i found rner— start to get the words down, i round her h— start to get the words down, i found that i really loved it. and— found that i really loved it. one oe— found that i really loved it. one oe h— found that i really loved it. one oe h gor— found that i really loved it. and as i got into the story, i pwhheo— and as i got into the story, i was pulled in.— and as i got into the story, i was pulled in. and people talk phono— was pulled in. and people talk ohowr wow— was pulled in. and people talk about your characters going off one— about your characters going off one-rner— about your characters going off and _their-thing,- about your characters going off and their thing, and and doing their own thing, and i rhowphr— and doing their own thing, and i rhowphr rheo— and doing their own thing, and i thought that was— and doing their own thing, and i thought that was something that where—her. i writers just said. but in fact, it writers just said. but in fact, hr—how- writers just said. but in fact,- hr—how-pwhheo it does happen. you get pulled in it does happen. you get pulled hown-— it does happen. you get pulled hnown- erorw- it does happen. you get pulled in-own story. so- it does happen. you get pulled in-own story. so i- it does happen. you get pulled in own story. so i would in to your own story. so i would oowhee— in to your own story. so i would oowhee-whrh— in to your own story. so i would advise _with-like. advise them with prizes like rhhe—hrown- advise them with prizes likei this—brown, which advise them with prizes like. this—brown, which is this from jenny brown, which is hrhhhhonr— this from jenny brown, which is hrhhhhonr .— this from jenny brown, which is hrhhhhonr . ro— this from jenny brown, which is brilliant , to .that- brilliant, to have that opponwnhw- brilliant, to have that opportunity . you know, whatever opportunity. you know, whatever wow— opportunity. you know, whatever your-,— opportunity. you know, whatever wow. wow— opportunity. you know, whatever your-r you know.— opportunity. you know, whatever your , you know, bring your your age, you know, bring your hhe— your age, you know, bring your life experiences,— your age, you know, bring your life experiences, your stories to life experiences, your stories ro rhe — life experiences, your stories ro rhe rohhe— life experiences, your stories to the table and— life experiences, your stories to the table and have confidence in to the table and have confidence hn hen.— to the table and have confidence hn rhen. h— to the table and have confidence in them. if there's— to the table and have confidence in them. if there's a— to the table and have confidence in them. if there's a pull on you— in them. if there's a pull on you ro— in them. if there's a pull on you no wrhre— in them. if there's a pull on you to write something, it's prohohhw— you to write something, it's prohohhw hor— you to write something, it's probably for a— you to write something, it's probably for a reason . probably for a reason. oeorghnn.— probably for a reason. georgina, who's- probably for a reason. georgina, who's just finally who is your favourite author and was

he or she an inspiration ? yeah, he or she an inspiration? yeah, i mean , i'm very, very lucky in i mean, i'm very, very lucky in that i look after the pr for maggie o'farrell , who probably maggie o'farrell, who probably is one of the greatest writers working today. and so i'll have to working today. and so i'll have ro he— working today. and so i'll have ro he o— working today. and so i'll have ho he o hhhhe— working today. and so i'll have to be a little bit— working today. and so i'll have to be a little bit biased- 2g 2 and so i'll have to be a little bit biased and, one— to be a little bit biased and, one eoy— to be a little bit biased and, one eow .— to be a little bit biased and, and say. maggie o'farrell but yes,— and say. maggie o'farrell but wee h— and say. maggie o'farrell but vesr h neon— and say. maggie o'farrell but yes, i mean i've— and say. maggie o'farrell but yes, i mean i've got a lot of, the— yes, i mean i've got a lot of, the ooh— yes, i mean i've got a lot of, the ooh o— yes, i mean i've got a lot of, he got o hor— yes, i mean i've got a lot of, i've got a lot of— yes, i mean i've got a lot of, i've got a lot of i- yes, i mean i've got a lot of, i've got a lot of i read all the hhe.— i've got a lot of i read all the hhe. h-we— i've got a lot of i read all the hhe. h-we ooh— i've got a lot of i read all the time, i've got a— i've got a lot of i read all the time, i've got a lot- i've got a lot of i read all the time, i've got a lot of favourite _ time, i've got a lot of favourite writers and, and i wowe— favourite writers and, and i wowho ther— favourite writers and, and i would just say— favourite writers and, and i would just say that, yeah , don't would just say that, yeah, don't let would just say that, yeah, don't her ope— would just say that, yeah, don't her age hoto— would just say that, yeah, don't let age hold you— would just say that, yeah, don't let age hold you back because i hhhnh— let age hold you back because i hhhnh hhe— let age hold you back because i think the publishing industry is very.— think the publishing industry is very. wew— think the publishing industry is very, very determined to try and open— very, very determined to try and open up— very, very determined to try and open up publishing, which can hhe— open up publishing, which can hhhe o— open up publishing, which can seem like a very— open up publishing, which can seem like a very closed industry to seem like a very closed industry ho eoe— seem like a very closed industry ho eno— seem like a very closed industry to some and get— seem like a very closed industry to some and get more diversity oh— to some and get more diversity across all areas.— to some and get more diversity across all areas. and particularly- across all areas. and particularly age. yeah. okay honhoehe. — particularly age. yeah. okay fantastic. good— particularly age. yeah. okay fantastic. 22 .r2.

whpeh— still be writing when he's 84. wheeh ano— still be writing when he's 84. nigel and still— still be writing when he's 84. nigel and still bestsellers. anh— nigel and still bestsellers. ann tonya— nigel and still bestsellers. and tonya are— nigel and still bestsellers. and tonya are with- nigel and still bestsellers. and tonya are with us,- nigel and still bestsellers. and tonya are with us, by the way, how many have you way, how many books have you written? nigel? i've written two. publish tonia written? nigel? i've written two. pli've.h tonia written? nigel? i've written two. pli've five tonia written? nigel? i've written two. pli've five books tonia buxton i've five books published, but five but are published, but five but mine are non—fiction . and that's the non—fiction. and that's the difference. mine. mine are about food. it's a 13 amp plug here, 39 food. it's a 13 amp plug here, so eonhnp— food. it's a 13 amp plug here, so eonhnp ouh— food. it's a 13 amp plug here, 39 coming out of— 2 it's a 13 amp plug here, 39 coming out of the camera on here.— 39 coming out of the camera on here. here— 39 coming out of the camera on here. hhere we— 39 coming out of the camera on here. there we are.— 39 coming out of the camera on here. there we are. tonia buxton hhe— here. there we are. tonia buxton hhe eeet— here. there we are. tonia buxton hhe eeeh oh— here. there we are. tonia buxton the secret of spice— here. there we are. tonia buxton the secret of spice that's going to the secret of spice that's going ho he— the secret of spice that's going ho he no— the secret of spice that's going to tie into one— the secret of spice that's going to tie into one of— the secret of spice that's going to tie into one of the stories pohne— to tie into one of the stories we're going-talk- to tie into one of the stories we're going talk about bit we're going to talk about a bit hater.— we're going to talk about a bit then — we're going to talk about a bit later. actually, _ we're going to talk about a bit later. actually, i've- we're going to talk about a bit later. 2 2 later. actually, i've done three, but again, non—fiction. but have fiction but i do have a fiction book that was due to do about that i was i was due to do about ten it's i read it ten years ago. it's i read it now i cringe anyway now and i cringe anyway in a book called great parliamentary scandals. and believe it or not, in scandals. and believe it or not, hn—hhe— scandals. and believe it or not, in_the revised- in the in the in the revised eohhon— in the in the in the revised eohhon .— in the in the in the revised eohhon . h— in the in the in the revised edition , i was— in the in the in the revised edition , i was in one oh long edition, i was in one oh long eron— edition, i was in one oh long ehow .— edition, i was in one oh long erorw . hone— edition, i was in one oh long erorw . hone erorw— edition, i was in one oh long story , long story, great story, long story, great parliamentary because i had to i had parliamentary because i had to i not ho— parliamentary because i had to i had to .evidence_ parliamentary because i had to i had to .evidence in- parliamentary because i had to i had to evidence in a court had to give evidence in a court eoee-hher— had to give evidence in a court case..that-the- had to give evidence in a court case..that-the case- case. so that was the case hnwowhne— case. so that was the case involvinngory- case. so that was the case involving tory mp a case. so that was the case- involving ltory mp .a queen involving a tory mp and a queen _ involving a tory mp and a queen ehze-eohh— involving a tory mp and a queen ehze-eohh on— involving a tory mp and a queen size-said, oh right,- size bed nuff said, oh right, eerh— size bed nuff said, oh right, eerh hher— size bed nuff said, oh right, search that out. _ size bed nuff said, oh right, search that out. - size bed nuff said, oh right, search that out. 2425 «no; size bed nuff said, oh right, search that out. 2425 {25 joe search that out. yes, yes. joe phoen— search that out. yes, yes. joe hhoen .— search that out. yes, yes. joe hhoen . hee— search that out. yes, yes. joe biden , he's formally- search that out. 2425 {25 joe biden , he's formally announced biden, he's formally announced hher— biden, he's formally announced that he— biden, he's formally announced that he he— biden, he's formally announced that he he eohne— biden, he's formally announced that he is going to be standing for he— that he is going to be standing for the nomination from the henoerohe— for the nomination from the democratic party. nigel nelson

oh, wonderful— democratic party. nigel nelson oh, wonderful reflection of the anerheon— oh, wonderful reflection of the american country— oh, wonderful reflection of the american country and the hrhhhhonh— american country and the brilliant individuals they have at brilliant individuals they have or her— brilliant individuals they have at their disposal. 24252 2 brilliant individuals they have at their disposal. / at their disposal. yeah, well, they— at their disposal. yeah, well, they don't, do they? and that's they don't, do they? and that's the real problem that of 330 million. yes , i know. but not an million. yes, i know. but not an awful, awful lot of them want to stand for president. it would seem so. it's no great surprise that joe biden's finally announced has no serious announced he has no serious challenger. sorry no, he has no enrne— challenger. sorry no, he has no ehrne h— challenger. sorry no, he has no shame. i finished.— challenger. sorry no, he has no shame. i finished. yeah - 2 g no, he has no shame. i finished. yeah i mean, i shame. i finished. yeah i mean, hhhhnh— shame. i finished. yeah i mean, hhhhnh hher— shame. i finished. yeah i mean, i think that he— shame. i finished. yeah i mean, i think that he didn't actually live up to the promise to the promise, but he hasn't been a disaster either. oh, and i think if you if you put someone like donald trump back in and it could. well be that joe biden will face donald trump, i'd much rather see biden in the white house and i would try tonia buxton nearly fell off her stool when you said he's not been a disaster. idon't whether disaster. i don't know whether wow-we— disaster. i don't know whether wow-we-hhe— disaster. i don't know whether you've - his .election i you've seen his his election hhn. — you've seen his his election hhn. tonya— you've seen his his election film. tonya he's- you've seen his his election film. 2g you've seen his his election film. 22 23 2r2 film. tonya he's running on a freedom ticket. he starts out by saying freedom is the most important thing. the what worries me and— important thing. the what worries me and what- 2g the what worries me and what puts a chill hnho— worries me and what puts a chill hnho hw— worries me and what puts a chill no my ephe— worries me and what puts a chill

no my ephne he— worries me and what puts a chill into my spine is that this man is into my spine is that this man he eheorhw— into my spine is that this man he eheorhw hh— into my spine is that this man is clearly in my— into my spine is that this man is clearly in my opinion. please let is clearly in my opinion. please her he— is clearly in my opinion. please her he ooh— is clearly in my opinion. please let me add that— is clearly in my opinion. please let me add that caveat . not let me add that caveat. not eohne— let me add that caveat. not oohne onwrhhne— let me add that caveat. not doing anything .— let me add that caveat. not doing anything . he is not doing anything. he is not rwnnhne— doing anything. he is not running anything. he can just about— running anything. he can just about eer— running anything. he can just ohowr eeh ouh— running anything. he can just about get out of— running anything. he can just about get out of bed and go to the about get out of bed and go to he hoo— about get out of bed and go to he too eno— about get out of bed and go to the loo and not— about get out of bed and go to the loo and not be— about get out of bed and go to the loo and not be incontinent. hon-h— the loo and not be incontinent. hon-h hnow. — the loo and not be incontinent. don't know. what— the loo and not be incontinent. don't know. what worries me is who— don't know. what worries me is who he— don't know. what worries me is who he pwhhhne— don't know. what worries me is who is pulling his— don't know. what worries me is who is pulling his strings and pwhhne— who is pulling his strings and pwrrhne hhn — who is pulling his strings and putting him forward. that is whor— putting him forward. that is what h— putting him forward. that is what h howe— putting him forward. that is what i have a— putting him forward. that is what i have a great first lady. or what i have a great first lady. or somehow— what i have a great first lady. or somebody more— what i have a great first lady. 2 2 no, or somebody more sinister. no, no, i think i personally- 2 2 no, no, i think i personally think it's no, i think i personally think hh-e more— no, i think i personally think it's more sinister— no, i think i personally think it's more sinister than even her. — it's more sinister than even her. hhe— it's more sinister than even her. the they've— it's more sinister than even her. the they've been, in my ophnhon— her. the they've been, in my ophnhon .— her. the they've been, in my opinion , seem— her. the they've been, in my opinion , seem to- her. the they've been, in my opinion , seem to be corrupt. he opinion, seem to be corrupt. he eheorhw— opinion, seem to be corrupt. he eheorhw he— opinion, seem to be corrupt. he clearly he can't— opinion, seem to be corrupt. he clearly he can't string a sentence together. he's shaking honore— sentence together. he's shaking honoe whhh— sentence together. he's shaking hands with thin— sentence together. he's shaking hands with thin air. the poor ehowho— hands with thin air. the poor man should be— hands with thin air. the poor man should be put out to pasture . i man should be put out to pasture . h neon— man should be put out to pasture . h hh— man should be put out to pasture . h hr he— man should be put out to pasture . i mean, if he does— man should be put out to pasture . i mean, if he does run again, he-hh— . i mean, if he does run again, he-hh he— . i mean, if he does run again, he-hh he 82— . i mean, if he does run again, he'll be 82 when— . i mean, if he does run again, he'll be 82 when he runs in his eenoo— he'll be 82 when he runs in his second inauguration, he'll be 86 by-he_ second inauguration, he'll be 86 bv-he hnhehee. - second inauguration, he'll be 86 by-he finishes. he- by the time he finishes. he eonnoh— by the time he finishes. he eonnoh oo— by the time he finishes. he cannot do .job. - by the time he finishes. he cannot do job. and as for cannot do this job. and as for hehne— cannot do this job. and as for hehne-hhon— cannot do this job. and as for being than trump, look, being worse than trump, look, i hon-h— being worse than trump, look, i oon-h-onw— being worse than trump, look, i don't any american don't like any american preehoenh— don't like any american preehoenh .— don't like any american president , but actually trump president, but actually trump hoe— president, but actually trump hoe o— president, but actually trump hoe o noen— president, but actually trump has a much better record than phoen— has a much better record than hhoen hw— has a much better record than hhoen to o— has a much better record than hhoen by o hone— has a much better record than biden by a long shot. h 25; biden by a long shot. nigel, hee— biden by a long shot. nigel, hes not— biden by a long shot. nigel, hes not o— biden by a long shot. nigel, he's not a young 80. the trouble is, he's not even a young 80. no, no. i appreciate an old, old age. he could be 92. yeah no, i appreciate that. but i don't

hhhnh— appreciate that. but i don't hhhnh woo— appreciate that. but i don't think you actually- 2 but i don't think you actually you throw peophe— think you actually you throw peophe ooh— think you actually you throw peophe out on— think you actually you throw people out on the basis of their oee. — people out on the basis of their oee. lwe— people out on the basis of their oeelwe howe— people out on the basis of their age..we have seen- people out on the basis of their age. we have seen he's age. so we have seen him. he's he-e— age. so we have seen him. he's hee—hhe— age. so we have seen him. he's he's—the several- he's he's made the several eohee— he's he's made the several eohee .— he's he's made the several eorree . he— he's he's made the several gaffes . he didn't go down that gaffes. he didn't go down that weh— gaffes. he didn't go down that wehh oer— gaffes. he didn't go down that wehh hh— gaffes. he didn't go down that well over in ireland with a lot of well over in ireland with a lot or nhehohee— well over in ireland with a lot of mistakes over— well over in ireland with a lot of mistakes over there. c2» of mistakes over there. got the all of mistakes over there. got the ah hhoohe— of mistakes over there. got the all blacks mixed up with the black and tan. i know that's hhoh-e— black and tan. i know that's hhoh-e whor— black and tan. i know that's that's what i— black and tan. i know that's that's what i mean.- black and tan. i know that's that's what i mean. i- 2 2222 222 i know that's that's what i mean. i understand hhoh— that's what i mean. i understand hhoh hor— that's what i mean. i understand hhoh not he— that's what i mean. i understand that. but the-of— that's what i mean. i understand that. but the of having that. but the idea of having eonehoow— that. but the idea of having somebody like— that. but the idea of having somebody like back, somebody like trump back, i hhhnh— somebody like trump back, i hhhnh-eoh— somebody like trump back, i hhhnh-eoh ho- somebody like trump back, i think-got to go- somebody like trump back, i think got to go to work think you've got to go to work on he— think you've got to go to work on he hoehe— think you've got to go to work on the basis of— think you've got to go to work on the basis of the way american pohhhee— politics works. and because woo-re— politics works. and because woo-re-enohne- politics works. and because you're ending up with you're you only ending up with eheehwe— you're you only ending up with effective albie— you're you only ending up with effective albie two people sort of effective albie two people sort or rhehhne— effective albie two people sort of fighting each _ effective albie two people sort of fighting each other, the ooneer— of fighting each other, the ooneer oh— of fighting each other, the danger of trump coming back, i hhhnh— danger of trump coming back, i hhhnh phoen— danger of trump coming back, i think biden would— danger of trump coming back, i think biden would beat trump. ano— think biden would beat trump. who to— think biden would beat trump. and i'd rather— think biden would beat trump. and i'd rather see trump beaten thon— and i'd rather see trump beaten hhon howe— and i'd rather see trump beaten hhon hove o— and i'd rather see trump beaten than have a new— and i'd rather see trump beaten than have a new kennedy . j2»2 . than have a new kennedy. don't you hhhnh— than have a new kennedy. don't you hhhnh we— than have a new kennedy. don't you think we need— than have a new kennedy. don't you think we need two completely different candidates ? as if that different candidates? as if that was different candidates? as if that poeehhhee— different candidates? as if that was possible? certainly. - 2 ”2222 2.2222 2“ as if that was possible? certainly. but if hhere-e— was possible? certainly. but if hhere-e no— was possible? certainly. but if there's no one,— was possible? certainly. but if there's no one, no— was possible? certainly. but if there's no one, no one out on he— there's no one, no one out on he horhzon— there's no one, no one out on the horizon, biden— there's no one, no one out on the horizon, biden and robert kennedy.— the horizon, biden and robert kennedyr honwo— the horizon, biden and robert kennedy, tanya, not biden , kennedy, tanya, not biden, eorw. — kennedy, tanya, not biden, eorw. hon— kennedy, tanya, not biden, sorry. ?2»2 h kennedy, tanya, not biden, sorry. 3 2 h 3 2 sorry. ron desantis. ron desantis and robert kennedy. absolutely. is he the one who's the envoy in northern ireland at the envoy in northern ireland at the that one? kennedy. the moment? that one? kennedy. yeah, is a kennedy yeah, there is a kennedy who's no, is no. he does the free

no, he is no. he does the free epeeeh. — no, he is no. he does the free epeeeh. hee— no, he is no. he does the free speech. he's the— no, he is no. he does the free speech. he's the nephew of the assassinated. yeah, that's right. that's right. that's right. that's right. that's right. and he has been a mass advocate for freedom , um, for advocate for freedom, um, for the wrongs of lockdowns he has. they write him off as the anti vaxeris they write him off as the anti vaxer is how the papers will describe him because he's always taken on the pharmaceutical industries. well, he won't take them decades . well, them on for decades. well, he won't he get it, but won't and he won't get it, but he huge following. yeah. he has a huge following. yeah. yeah ithink he has a huge following. yeah. yeah i think what you want, eepeehohhw— yeah i think what you want, eepeehohhw hh— 24222 2 i think what you want, especially in america, is eonehoow— especially in america, is somebody-can- especially in america, is somebody can run an somebody who can run an administration— somebody who can run an administration and it may well, tony,— administration and it may well, tonvr woo— administration and it may well, tonvr you now— administration and it may well, tonvr you may he— administration and it may well, tony, you may be right. there eooto— tony, you may be right. there eooho he— tony, you may be right. there could be other— tony, you may be right. there could be other people there who are effectively— could be other people there who are effectively running the eonrnenh — are effectively running the government. but that's point. government. but that's my point. eon—heeooee- sort of point, really, because hhere— sort of point, really, because there—disasters sort of point, really, becausei there—disasters . there have been no disasters. ano— there have been no disasters. who on— there have been no disasters. who on thor— there have been no disasters. and on that basis, what about the and on that basis, what about he whor— and on that basis, what about the what about— and on that basis, what about the what about the war in in hheeho— the what about the war in in hheeho one— the what about the war in in russia and ukraine? that for me . hhoen— russia and ukraine? that for me , biden doesn't show any incentive to try to stop it. he just appears to be pumping bills and billions of dollars of taxpayers money with no plan in sight for any sort of resolution to stop it. i mean, the trouble whhh— to stop it. i mean, the trouble whhh thor— to stop it. i mean, the trouble whhh hhoh wo— to stop it. i mean, the trouble with that war is— to stop it. i mean, the trouble with that war is how- e i mean, the trouble with that war is how do you stop it with that war is how do you stop hr whhhooh— with that war is how do you stop hr whhhooh onw— with that war is how do you stop it without any kind— with that war is how do you stop it without any kind of direct

nhhhhorw— it without any kind of direct military intervention? well, when— military intervention? well, whheh-heoo- military intervention? well, which-lead to- military intervention? well, which-lead to a- military intervention? well, which lead to a nuclear which would lead to a nuclear so— which would lead to a nuclear so or— which would lead to a nuclear war. so at the— which would lead to a nuclear war. so at the moment, biden is hohhowhne— war. so at the moment, biden is hohhowhne hhe — war. so at the moment, biden is following the policy . the rest following the policy. the rest of following the policy. the rest oh-weeh— following the policy. the rest oh-weeh he— following the policy. the rest of west is europe. britain of the west is europe. britain ano— of the west is europe. britain ano ho— of the west is europe. britain ano ho hw— of the west is europe. britain who to try one— of the west is europe. britain and to try and give the give the hhrohnhone— and to try and give the give the ukrainians the— and to try and give the give the ukrainians the wherewithal to win ukrainians the wherewithal to whn thor— ukrainians the wherewithal to whn hhoh wo— ukrainians the wherewithal to win that war, does he have to keep—homoto- win that war, does he have to. keep—kamala harris keep politically, kamala harris rrohohhw— keep politically, kamala harris rrohohhw hhe— keep politically, kamala harris probably the worst vice preehoenh— probably the worst vice president united probably the worst vice- president-united states president of the united states hoe—hoes- president of the united states hoe—hoes he- president of the united states has—does he havel president of the united states. has—does he have to has ever had. does he have to keep her the because keep her on the ticket because she's black yes she's a black woman? yes probably. isn't that terrible? not just which if he does, not just which means if he does, hhere-e— not just which means if he does, hhere-elohher— not just which means if he does, there's-other reason- there's no other reason if he eoee— there's no other reason if he eoee-over.— there's no other reason if he does over, because he's old does keel over, because he's old one— does keel over, because he's old one nor— does keel over, because he's old and not healthy— does keel over, because he's old and not healthy looking, she's then— and not healthy looking, she's then-president— and not healthy looking, she's then-president of- and not healthy looking, she's then president of united then the president of the united shohee. — then the president of the united shohee. _ho- then the president of the united states. _is that?- states. how terrible is that? that you do job? we that you can't do the job? we never see her. she she cannot ehhne— never see her. she she cannot ehhne o— never see her. she she cannot string a sentence— she she cannot string a sentence together. wehhher— string a sentence together. neither-them - string a sentence together. neither them can. so there's neither of them can. so there's two— neither of them can. so there's two-hhere. — neither of them can. so there's two _there. the- neither of them can. so there's two there. the president, two people there. the president, the two people there. the president, hhe—eonnohl the vice president, who cannot ehhne— the vice president, who cannot stringlsensible_ the vice president, who cannot string sensible sentence string a sensible sentence roeehher. — string a sensible sentence together. worrying that together. it's so worrying that thew— together. it's so worrying that thew-hhe— together. it's so worrying that they-the leaders- together. it's so worrying that they the leaders of the free they are the leaders of the free worth— they are the leaders of the free world-allegedly- they are the leaders of the free world allegedly free world. world that allegedly free world. veoh. — world that allegedly free world. teen. teen— world that allegedly free world. yeah. yeah right.— world that allegedly free world. yeah. yeah right. okay,- world that allegedly free world. 24222 2 24222 2 22 yeah. yeah right. okay, let's move on to things a little bit closer to home. right? you've got your your cookbook there, tanya. 50% or more. that's how much of our daily calorie intake in the uk. now, typically comes

from ultra processed foods . this from ultra processed foods. this is a piece from the daily mail. this a indictment on how this is a very indictment on how we eat in this country. this is so worrying to me.— we eat in this country. this is so worrying to me. and- 2 22». this is so worrying to me. and the prohhen — so worrying to me. and the prohhen he— so worrying to me. and the problem is, is— so worrying to me. and the problem is, is that people don't ephe— problem is, is that people don't quite understand— problem is, is that people don't quite understand how damaging who— quite understand how damaging ultra processed— quite understand how damaging ultra processed foods are and how— ultra processed foods are and how unregulated— ultra processed foods are and how unregulated they are. so theee— how unregulated they are. so hheee hood— how unregulated they are. so these food producers are making up theee— these food producers are making up rheee hood— these food producers are making up these food chemicals that go no— up these food chemicals that go no ow— up these food chemicals that go no hood— up these food chemicals that go into our food that— up these food chemicals that go into our food that are eonpherehw- into our food that are completely non—regular . and completely non—regular. and hhere-e— completely non—regular. and there's regulation called there's a regulation called eroee— there's a regulation called eroee whheh— there's a regulation called grass, which is— there's a regulation called grass, which is generally reeoenheeo— grass, which is generally recognised as- grass, which is generally recognised as safe. can you hnoehne— recognised as safe. can you hnoehne e— recognised as safe. can you imagine ? and— recognised as safe. can you imagine ? and it- recognised as safe. can you imagine ? and it has to get imagine? and it has to get hhrooeh— imagine? and it has to get through that— imagine? and it has to get through that regulatory body. but through that regulatory body. hoh thew-re— through that regulatory body. but they're so— through that regulatory body. but they're so backlogged that thew-re— but they're so backlogged that they're allowing— but they're so backlogged that they're allowing people to self reeohohe— they're allowing people to self reewhohe hhe— they're allowing people to self regulate the chemicals that they are regulate the chemicals that they pwrhne— regulate the chemicals that they are putting-foods- regulate the chemicals that they are putting-foods .- regulate the chemicals that they are putting foods . so we are putting into foods. so we are-our children- are putting into foods. so we are our children are are eating, our children are eohne— are eating, our children are eohne rhhnee— are eating, our children are eating things now are eating things that we now are heeonhne— eating things that we now are becoming more— eating things that we now are becoming more and more aware thor— becoming more and more aware hhoh-eooehne— becoming more and more aware that causing terminal that are causing terminal hhhneee— that are causing terminal illness, that— that are causing terminal illness, that are causing cancers, that _ illness, that are causing cancers, that are causing gut phone— cancers, that are causing gut phone-thor- cancers, that are causing gut biome-that are- cancers, that are causing gut- biome-that are causing biome problems that are causing ohohehee— biome problems that are causing diabetes,-causing_ biome problems that are causing diabetes, causing obesity, diabetes, are causing obesity, one— diabetes, are causing obesity, on nohhhne-e— diabetes, are causing obesity, and nothing's being done to stop theee— and nothing's being done to stop rheee peophe— and nothing's being done to stop these people because it's cheap, heeooee— these people because it's cheap, heeooee hhe— these people because it's cheap, because it's cheap. _ these people because it's cheap, because it's cheap. they're oehne— because it's cheap. they're using chemicals- because it's cheap. they're using chemicals instead of whole hoode— using chemicals instead of whole hoooe .— using chemicals instead of whole hoooe . so— using chemicals instead of whole foods . so they'll— using chemicals instead of whole foods . so they'll take a product foods. so they'll take a product one— foods. so they'll take a product on thew-hh— foods. so they'll take a product ono thew-h ther— foods. so they'll take a product and they'll just subtract the ehenheohe— and they'll just subtract the

chemicals _they- and they'll just subtract the chemicals they subtract chemicals out and they subtract the chemicals out and they subtract hhe hno— chemicals out and they subtract hhe hhno oh— chemicals out and they subtract the kind of smells— chemicals out and they subtract the kind of smells and things out the kind of smells and things ooh oh— the kind of smells and things ooh of then.— the kind of smells and things out of them. but— the kind of smells and things out of them. but there's no nutritional— out of them. but there's no nutritional quality to them. so heeohne— nutritional quality to them. so we're feeding ourselves with thee— we're feeding ourselves with theee-ew— we're feeding ourselves with. these-our-don't these things. our bodies don't even know what— these things. our bodies don't even know what they're taking in heeooee— even know what they're taking in because substances because these are substances thor— because these are substances hhoh—eohen- because these are substances that—eaten as that we've never eaten before as hrnone— that we've never eaten before as hon — that we've never eaten before as humans. .supermarkets- that we've never eaten before as humans. the supermarkets are part of this, aren't part and parcel of this, aren't they? because they? absolutely, yeah. because they? absolutely, yeah. because they virtue it. they make a big virtue of it. and the manufacturers, i mean, i hhhnh— and the manufacturers, i mean, i hhhnh hh— and the manufacturers, i mean, i hhhnh hr oe— and the manufacturers, i mean, i think it was horrifying learn think it was horrifying to learn thor— think it was horrifying to learn hot—eee- think it was horrifying to learn hhoh—eee onol think it was horrifying to learn. hhoh—eee ono mayo that if you buy an egg and mayo eonowheh— that if you buy an egg and mayo eonowheh hn— that if you buy an egg and mayo eonowheh hn o— that if you buy an egg and mayo sandwich in a supermarket, woo-re— sandwich in a supermarket, woo-re-hn— sandwich in a supermarket, woo-re-hn 22- sandwich in a supermarket, you're in 22 different you're taking in 22 different eon— you're taking in 22 different eon oh— you're taking in 22 different sort of chemicals . yeah. isn't sort of chemicals. yeah. isn't hhe— sort of chemicals. yeah. isn't hhe onewer— sort of chemicals. yeah. isn't the answer then— sort of chemicals. yeah. isn't the answer then to actually arnhe— the answer then to actually arnhe nohe— the answer then to actually arnie make your own? yes. you ano— arnie make your own? yes. you who he— arnie make your own? yes. you who he tore— arnie make your own? yes. you and it's fairly easy.— arnie make your own? yes. you and it's fairly easy. i mean, an egg— and it's fairly easy. i mean, an egg mayo— and it's fairly easy. i mean, an egg mayo sandwich will take you ohooh— egg mayo sandwich will take you ohooh ohooh— egg mayo sandwich will take you about about five _ egg mayo sandwich will take you about about five minutes. nice hee— about about five minutes. nice heeeorne- oh— about about five minutes. nice free-some of the- about about five minutes. nice free some of the advice free range some of the advice here— free range some of the advice here he— free range some of the advice here he ephe— free range some of the advice here is quite good breakfast here is quite good at breakfast hon-h— here is quite good at breakfast don't-flavoured- here is quite good at breakfast don't flavoured cereals don't have flavoured cereals heeooee— don't have flavoured cereals because they've _ don't have flavoured cereals because they've got the bad hhhnee— because they've got the bad hhhnee hn— because they've got the bad things in don't— because they've got the bad things in don't have toast go one— things in don't have toast go one howe— things in don't have toast go one hove o— things in don't have toast go and have a weetabix or porridge or eonehhhne— and have a weetabix or porridge or something like— and have a weetabix or porridge or something like that because hhoh-e— or something like that because hhoh-e heher— or something like that because that's better for— or something like that because that's better for you. it is that's better for you. but it is a that's better for you. but it is o noher— that's better for you. but it is a matter-choice- that's better for you. but it is a matter-choice ,- that's better for you. but it is a matter choice , you know, a matter of choice, you know, he— a matter of choice, you know, he hhhne— a matter of choice, you know, he hhhne he— a matter of choice, you know, the thing is, is— a matter of choice, you know, the thing is, is snuck into the thing is, is it's snuck into so the thing is, is it's snuck into eo nonw— the thing is, is it's snuck into eo many rhhnee.— the thing is, is it's snuck into so many things. _ the thing is, is it's snuck into so many things. / 25» 2g so many things. yeah, i'm going to virtuous. going to to be virtuous. i'm going to have going to be virtuous. i'm going to hav it. going to be virtuous. i'm going to hav it. porridge, going to be virtuous. i'm going to hav it. porridge, pot. going to be virtuous. i'm going to hav it. porridge, pot. i'veg get it. porridge, pot. i've rushed into work. i'm grabbing that one full

that one. but that one is full of. but what the little of. but what about the little pockete— of. but what about the little poeheh—oh- but what about the little packet? of quaker packet? you know, of quaker eohee— packet? you know, of quaker eoee-woo— packet? you know, of quaker oats?-you mix- packet? you know, of quaker oats?-you mix it- packet? you know, of quaker oats? you mix it up with oats? and you mix it up with nhhh— oats? and you mix it up with nhhh or— oats? and you mix it up with milk or water? _ oats? and you mix it up with milk or water? that's better. that's fine. that's fine. that's what but, know, i've what i use. but, you know, i've always this. you want to always said this. if you want to increase diet 85% increase your diet by 85% minimum, from scratch. minimum, just cook from scratch. everything needs to be cooked from need to from scratch. and we need to regulate things. i'm not regulate these things. i'm not into or say and regulate these things. i'm not into-or say and dads. into bang or say and dad's wohehhne— into bang or say and dad's wohehhne. h— into bang or say and dad's watching. i haven't got time. hhoh-e—eow. - watching. i haven't got time. hhoh-e—eow. i watching. i haven't got time.| hhoh-e—eow. h-nn that's what they'll say. i'm not hnoe— that's what they'll say. i'm not hnho honnhne— that's what they'll say. i'm not into banning, but i think these new chemicals and additives and products they're need products that they're using need to was a piece to be banned. there was a piece of last week, nigel, of research last week, nigel, which the government which accused the government subsidy governments, successive governments of nanny state of fear of nanny statism is why they haven't clamped down on the food industries. i don't think i ever see that— food industries. i don't think i ever see that changing- 2 2 i don't think i ever see that changing . there's ever see that changing. there's too noen— ever see that changing. there's too much money— ever see that changing. there's too much money at stake here. it wowe— too much money at stake here. it wooho hhe— too much money at stake here. it wooho hohe o— too much money at stake here. it would take a very— too much money at stake here. it would take a very brave government— would take a very brave government to say, i'm going to reeohohe— government to say, i'm going to reewhore woo— government to say, i'm going to regulate you and— government to say, i'm going to regulate you and what you can put regulate you and what you can pot-wow— regulate you and what you can pwrlwowhooo. — regulate you and what you can put your food. �*2fw22;ll 2 put in your food. well, i mean, the nanny argument is a the nanny state argument is a good that they good one that that they shouldn't be nannying us. but you can make but they can help you can make but they can help you to make informed choices and therefore healthy choices. yeah.

yeah . i don't know if that's yeah. i don't know if that's true because the addictions are really heavy on processed foods. we've just got some breaking news. william , prince news. prince william, prince whhhhon.— news. prince william, prince william, - harry, - prince william, prince william, harry, has settled william, not harry, has settled a william, not harry, has settled o phone— william, not harry, has settled a phone hacking— william, not harry, has settled a phone hacking claim against hoppeh— a phone hacking claim against rupert murdoch's— a phone hacking claim against rupert murdoch's news group, wewepopere— rupert murdoch's news group, wewepopere hor— rupert murdoch's news group, newspapers for a very large sum as newspapers for a very large sum oe pon— newspapers for a very large sum oe port or— newspapers for a very large sum oe port of o— newspapers for a very large sum as part of a secret— newspapers for a very large sum as part of a secret agreement. ano— as part of a secret agreement. ano hee— as part of a secret agreement. ano he-e hone— as part of a secret agreement. and he's done it— as part of a secret agreement. and he's done it just as prince horn-e— and he's done it just as prince harry's proceedings against news group— harry's proceedings against news erowp eron— harry's proceedings against news erowp eron rooow— harry's proceedings against news group start today cannot be a eohnehoenee— group start today cannot be a coincidence . _ group start today cannot be a coincidence . so— group start today cannot be a coincidence . 22223 coincidence. so hang on a minute. so they've both taken the papers to court. william has settled quietly court, settled quietly out of court, privately out of the out of for a amount of money. who a large amount of money. who knows what? give charity. knows what? give to charity. and going to have his and harry is going to have his day in court and push back. we think if he if he wins the- 2 »2.2»;. we think if he if he wins the legal orewnenh — think if he if he wins the legal orewnenh so— think if he if he wins the legal argument. so he— think if he if he wins the legal argument. 2 argument. so he has two days because need to do because netflix need him to do stuff him on telly . stuff that puts him on telly. and so that's why he has to, because without because they're sinking without trace. harry, ? yeah, trace. harry, who? yeah, exoehw. — trace. harry, who? yeah, eooehw. ae— trace. harry, who? yeah, exactly. as a- 2 harry, who? yeah, exactly. trace. harry, who? yeah, exactly. as a journalist editor. nigel, you make of these nigel, what do you make of these cases? they should. it's a long time should we not have time ago. should we not have moved move on. moved on? we can't move on. hhere— moved on? we can't move on. hhere-hoo— moved on? we can't move on. hhere-too nonw— moved on? we can't move on. there-too many of- 2 2»2“ we can't move on. there too many of them. there are too many of them. hhew-we— there are too many of them. hhew-we-ho — there are too many of them. hhew-we-ho he— there are too many of them. they've to be settled. what they've got to be settled. what hoppeneo— they've got to be settled. what hoppeneo whhh— they've got to be settled. what happened with hacking was oheohohehw— happened with hacking was absolutely appalling and

disgraceful— absolutely appalling and disgraceful .— absolutely appalling and disgraceful . and yes, i think disgraceful. and yes, i think thor— disgraceful. and yes, i think hhoh hhe— disgraceful. and yes, i think that the papers— disgraceful. and yes, i think that the papers are right to be paying— that the papers are right to be paying ooh— that the papers are right to be paying out he— that the papers are right to be paying out the kind of money thor— paying out the kind of money hhoh thew— paying out the kind of money hot the oe— paying out the kind of money that they are to _ paying out the kind of money that they are to the victims of hhoh — that they are to the victims of hhoh ehow— that they are to the victims of hhoh ehow — that they are to the victims of that. okay all— that they are to the victims of that. okay 25 that they are to the victims of that. okay 2 »25. that they are to the victims of that. okay 225. that. okay all right. thank you both. nigel nelson, tonia buxton. it's been wonderful. we've come to the end of the show. coming up next is news show. coming up next is gb news live with longhurst. this live with mark longhurst. this is point with andrew and is to the point with andrew and bev. tomorrow at bev. we'll be back tomorrow at 930. then .

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