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very good afternoon, everybody . patrick - very good afternoon, everybody . patrick christys_ . very good afternoon, everybody . patrick christys here— . very good afternoon, everybody . patrick christys here on— very good afternoon, everybody . patrick christys here on gb news— . patrick christys here on gb news and— . patrick christys here on gb news and it's— . patrick christys here on gb news and it's shaping up to be a bamsormert— news and it's shaping up to be a barnstormer of— news and it's shaping up to be a barnstormer of a— news and it's shaping up to be a barnstormer of a show, ladies and— barnstormer of a show, ladies and gems.— barnstormer of a show, ladies and gents. so— barnstormer of a show, ladies and gents. so here's what i've got— and gents. so here's what i've got right— and gents. so here's what i've got right at— and gents. so here's what i've got right at the— and gents. so here's what i've got right at the top. that big breaking— got right at the top. that big breaking news.— got right at the top. that big breaking news. andrew bridgen has been— breaking news. andrew bridgen has been booted— breaking news. andrew bridgen has been booted out of the conservative— has been booted out of the conservative party for his comments vaccines and comments over vaccines and crucially,— comments over vaccines and crudely—l comments over vaccines and crucially,—. ll comments over vaccines and. crucially,—. i am crucially, the holocaust. i am due— crucially, the holocaust. i am due-interview— crucially, the holocaust. i am due interview andrew bridgen crucially, the holocaust. i am due veryerview andrew bridgen crucially, the holocaust. i am due very shortly,.ndrew bridgen crucially, the holocaust. i am due very shortly,.nd|don't'idgen very, very shortly, so don't miss— very, very shortly, so don't that.— very, very shortly, so don't miss that. in— very, very shortly, so don't miss that. in other news, that first— miss that. in other news, that first flight— miss that. in other news, that first flight back _ miss that. in other news, that first flight back sudan has first flight back from sudan has now—on british. now touched down on british son. —to- now touched down on british soil._to interviewi soil. i'm hoping to interview again— soil. i'm hoping to interview someone again in matter of someone again in a matter of minutes— someone again in a matter of
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minutes who-s— someone again in a matter of minutes who's stepped off minutes who's just stepped off that—also— minutes who's just stepped off that—also asked- that plane, but also asked the bigger— that plane, but also asked the bigger question,— that plane, but also asked the bigger question, do we have a moral— bigger question, do we have a moral obligation— bigger question, do we have a moral obligation to take suganese— moral obligation to take sudanese refugees or are we already— sudanese refugees or are we already taking— sudanese refugees or are we already taking in enough people elsewhere— already taking in enough people egggwg... es— already taking in enough people elsewhere as well— already taking in enough people elsewhere as well who would want to elsewhere as well who would want so be — elsewhere as well who would want be be e— elsewhere as well who would want be be a copper?— elsewhere as well who would want to be a copper? so— elsewhere as well who would want to be a copper? so the government- to be a copper? so the government has hit its target ebbegeeb— government has hit its target allegedly eb— government has hit its target allegedly of 20,000 new reerbbsb — allegedly of 20,000 new recruits. but— allegedly of 20,000 new recruits. but in- allegedly of 20,000 new recruits. but in this day and age— recruits. but in this day and age, rs— recruits. but in this day and age, is b— recruits. but in this day and age, is it actually a good job to age, is it actually a good job be bere— age, is it actually a good job be have erre— age, is it actually a good job to have and what— age, is it actually a good job to have and what would it look bre— to have and what would it look bbbe b— to have and what would it look bbbe b we— to have and what would it look like if we did— to have and what would it look like if we did indeed defund the reuse— like if we did indeed defund the reuse newe— like if we did indeed defund the police now? are— like if we did indeed defund the police now? are you also bberrbbrbg— police now? are you also bberrsbrsg e— police now? are you also planning a little picnic to eebebrebe— planning a little picnic to celebrate the— planning a little picnic to celebrate the coronation well, if-genuinelvr- celebrate the coronation well,i if-genuinely,-might if you are genuinely, you might need— if you are genuinely, you might need-permission.- need planning permission. talk ebebb—yebr- need planning permission. talki about—your local about nimbyism from your local eebbei— about nimbyism from your local sebbebb .— about nimbyism from your local sebbebb libs— about nimbyism from your local council ..its-you- about nimbyism from your local council . its you want council. at its best, you want to council. at its best, you want be-e— council. at its best, you want be-e bbebbe— council. at its best, you want be-e bberbe bre- council. at its best, you want| to-a picnic in-local to have a picnic in your local barbe— to have a picnic in your local park? believe— to have a picnic in your local park? believe-me,- to have a picnic in your local park? believe me, you might park? believe you me, you might need— park? believe you me, you might need-permission- park? believe you me, you might need permission be need planning permission to be abbe— need planning permission to be ebbe be— need planning permission to be ebbe be be— need planning permission to be able to do that.— need planning permission to be able to do that. i've got much, mush— able to do that. i've got much, much more coming your as much more coming your way as web.— much more coming your way as web-leeb— much more coming your way as web-lbeb miss— much more coming your way as well..not miss it.- much more coming your way as well. not miss it. patrick well. do not miss it. patrick cbrbsbys— well. do not miss it. patrick cbrbsbys .— well. do not miss it. patrick cbrbsbys . eb— well. do not miss it. patrick christys . gb news. just christys. gb news. just a bberebr— christys. gb news. just a bberebr eb— christys. gb news. just a flavour of some of the other bbbrbgs— flavour of some of the other bbbrsgs es— flavour of some of the other things as well. _ flavour of some of the other things as well. should nurses beby— things as well. should nurses wear body cameras? that's been bbeebeb— wear body cameras? that's been floated around— wear body cameras? that's been floated around as— wear body cameras? that's been floated around as well. so gbviews@gbnews.uk. we have gbviews@gbnews.uk. do we have a mere— gbviews@gbnews.uk. do we have a moral obligation— gbviews@gbnews.uk. do we have a moral obligation to— gbviews@gbnews.uk. do we have a moral obligation to take in sbbebese— moral obligation to take in sudanese refugees or are we ebreeby— sudanese refugees or are we ebreeby being—
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sudanese refugees or are we already doing enough, do you bbbbbe— already doing enough, do you bbbbbe eb— already doing enough, do you think? gb views— already doing enough, do you think? gb views arnie gb news. bk. — think? gb views arnie gb news. bk. bew— think? gb views arnie gb news. .uk. now though,— think? gb views arnie gb news. .uk. now though, headlines with rebate— .uk. now though, headlines with bebberre .— .uk. now though, headlines with tatiana . patrick. _ .uk. now though, headlines with tatiana . patrick. n’ew big tatiana. patrick. thank you very much and good afternoon. this is the latest from the newsroom . the latest from the newsroom. the first flight carrying british nationals from sudan has now landed in the uk. the aircraft arrived at stansted airport in the last half an hour or so. the home secretary says up or so. the home secretary says up to 300 people have been evacuated from sudan. it's estimated around 4000 britons were stuck in the country. the prime minister has warned of a critical 24 hours ahead as the military races to rescue people before the ceasefire ends. while at pmqs this afternoon, rishi sunak was asked by the snp westminster leader stephen flynn, to outline a safe and legal route available to a child refugee fleeing sudan . priority refugee fleeing sudan. priority in sudan , first and— "beings; g 3" priority in sudan , first and foremost was in sudan, first and foremost was to in sudan, first and foremost was be eeebebe— in sudan, first and foremost was be be eur— in sudan, first and foremost was to evacuate our diplomats and bbebr— to evacuate our diplomats and their families, _ to evacuate our diplomats and their families, which i'm very
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bbeeseb. — their families, which i'm very bbeeseb. bre— their families, which i'm very pleased. we were one of the bbrsb— pleased. we were one of the first countries— pleased. we were one of the first countries to _ pleased. we were one of the first countries to be able to go,— first countries to be able to be, mr— first countries to be able to do, mr speaker,— first countries to be able to do, mr speaker, and since yesberbey— do, mr speaker, and since yesterday we've been conducting a yesterday we've been conducting e barge— yesterday we've been conducting e berge seabe— yesterday we've been conducting a large scale evacuation of brbbbsb— a large scale evacuation of british nationals . we have some british nationals. we have some of british nationals. we have some eb bbe— british nationals. we have some eb bbe bergesb— british nationals. we have some of the largest numbers of brbbbsb— of the largest numbers of british nationals on the ground and rbgbbb— british nationals on the ground and rbgbbby erre— british nationals on the ground and rightly and i'm sure the wbebe— and rightly and i'm sure the whole house— and rightly and i'm sure the whole house will agree with me bbeb— whole house will agree with me bbeb tb— whole house will agree with me bbeb bb rs— whole house will agree with me that it is reasonable, legal and fair be— that it is reasonable, legal and fair to prioritise— that it is reasonable, legal and fair to prioritise those most vubrrerebbe— fair to prioritise those most vulnerable families, particularly those with elderly beebbe— particularly those with elderly beebbe bre— particularly those with elderly beebbe be bberre— particularly those with elderly people in them, medical conditions.— people in them, medical conditions. but also children. mr speaker— conditions. but also children. mr sbeeber .— conditions. but also children. mr speaker , that's what we're in mr speaker, that's what we're in the mr speaker, that's what we're in bbe bress— mr speaker, that's what we're in bbe bress eb— mr speaker, that's what we're in the process of doing. and i pay brbbbbe— the process of doing. and i pay brbbbbe be— the process of doing. and i pay tribute to all— the process of doing. and i pay tribute to all those who are making— tribute to all those who are making tb— tribute to all those who are making it possible . t" ' "milt: making it possible. rozan ahmed, one making it possible. rozan ahmed, eb— making it possible. rozan ahmed, one of the britons who was forced to make her own way out of sudan, spoke earlier of sudan, spoke to us earlier today her journey isn't today about her journey isn't easy. it isn't safe. it's a it isn't safe. it's a massive , massive risk to go out massive, massive risk to go out on massive, massive risk to go out err bbe— massive, massive risk to go out err bbe sbreebs— massive, massive risk to go out on the streets and— massive, massive risk to go out on the streets and drive and ebbembb— on the streets and drive and ebbembb be— on the streets and drive and attempt to move _ on the streets and drive and attempt to move in the midst of arre— attempt to move in the midst of abe bb-s— attempt to move in the midst of war. and it's also— attempt to move in the midst of war. and it's also not cheap. tbs— war. and it's also not cheap. bb-s vert— war. and it's also not cheap. it's very expensive. so it was a berrerrbrbg— it's very expensive. so it was a berrewbrbg erre— it's very expensive. so it was a harrowing and harrowing journey . mb—
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harrowing and harrowing journey . mb andrew— harrowing and harrowing journey . mp andrew bridgen has been erbebbeb— . mp andrew bridgen has been expelled from _ . mp andrew bridgen has been expelled from the conservative beb— expelled from the conservative bvbv berby. — expelled from the conservative bvbv berby. rb-s— expelled from the conservative lviv party. it's after- expelled from the conservative lviv party. g lviv party. it's after he compared covid 19 vaccines to the holocaust and was found to have breached lobbying rules as the north—west leicestershire mp was expelled on the 12th of april following the recommendation of a disciplinary panel and was given 28 days to appeal. panel and was given 28 days to appeal . he panel and was given 28 days to appeal. he said he'll stand again at the next election whilst hitting out at what he called corruption, collusion and cover ups in the political system . the leaders of ukraine system. the leaders of ukraine and china have held a telephone call for the first time since russia invaded last year. chinese state media claimed president xi jinping told vladimir zelenskyy he's prepared to send special representatives to send special representatives to ukraine to hold peace talks . to ukraine to hold peace talks. president xi is the most powerful world leader to have refrained from denouncing russia's invasion of ukraine and made a state visit to russia last month. since february, he's promoted a 12 point peace plan . promoted a 12 point peace plan. the met police commissioner has admitted the force hasn't
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reached its recruitment target, saying there are 1000 officers light more than 20,000 new police officers have been hired in england and wales. but britain's biggest police force missed its individual target. the on going recruitment programme is expected to cost £18.5 billion over the next ten years. the prime minister earlier said that although progress is good, more work is needed. progress is good, more work is needed . well, mr rowley admits needed. well, mr rowley admits the met shortcoming is partly down to the force's current reputation. i wish we'd hit it, but we haven't. why haven't you 7 but we haven't. why haven't you e se— but we haven't. why haven't you ? so i think there are a range of there are a range of factors in this and we have recruited over the last three years more than 9000 officers as which is the most, i think, ever in such a short period. we haven't hit the a short period. we haven't hit bbe we— a short period. we haven't hit the we haven't— a short period. we haven't hit the we haven't hit— a short period. we haven't hit the we haven't hit the- : we haven't hit the we haven't hit the target. obviouslvr_ the we haven't hit the target. ogvtoggy, we — the we haven't hit the target. obviously, we are— the we haven't hit the target. obviously, we are striving to members— obviously, we are striving to maintain the _ obviously, we are striving to maintain the quality. that's reebb— maintain the quality. that's really important. and i think bbere— really important. and i think bbere re— really important. and i think there are factors— really important. and i think there are factors which include bebb. — there are factors which include bebb. .— there are factors which include both. i think— there are factors which include both. i think the— there are factors which include both. " both. i think the reputation of the organisation at the moment doesn't . a man doesn't help recruiting. a man has been jailed for—
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c ”c111. c g a man has been jailed for assisting bbe— has been jailed for assisting beer— has been jailed for assisting nine year old— has been jailed for assisting nine year old olivia pratt—korbel murderer, 41 year old pratt—korbel murderer, 41 year ebb babb— pratt—korbel murderer, 41 year old paul russell— pratt—korbel murderer, 41 year old paul russell pleaded guilty to old paul russell pleaded guilty be driving. — old paul russell pleaded guilty to driving. thomas— old paul russell pleaded guilty to driving. " to driving. thomas cashman after he'd fatally shot the nine year old last summer. he told police in the days after olivia's death that cashman was responsible for her murder, claiming he wasn't aware of this when he helped him. he's been sentenced to 22 months in prison . a rush an months in prison. a rush an opposition leader, alexei navalny , says an investigation navalny, says an investigation has open aid that could see him serve an extra 30 years in prison. mr navalny, who is currently serving an 11.5 year sentence, is being investigated on terrorism charges , a move on terrorism charges, a move which he calls absurd . this which he calls absurd. this comes after he survived an assassination attempt in 2020 after being poisoned. the kremlin denies any involvement . kremlin denies any involvement. and new data reveals the average cost of car insurance is now £107 more expensive than it was 12 months ago. the research from one poll found that the average price of a policy taken out in
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the first three months of this year was £637, the highest rate since they peaked in 2011. on average, those surveyed were charged £53 more for their renewal price on an existing policy . this is gb news. we'll policy. this is gb news. we'll bnng policy. this is gb news. we'll bring you more news as it happens. now, though, it is back to patrick erg . to patrick erg. right. let's to patrick erg.- . right. let's get to patrick erg.— - right. let's get cracking, right. let's get cracking, ladies - right. let's get cracking, bebbes erre— - right. let's get cracking, ladies and gents,— . right. let's get cracking, ladies and gents, let's- right. let's get cracking, ladies and gents, let's start wbbb— ladies and gents, let's start wbbb bbe— ladies and gents, let's start wbbb bbe big— ladies and gents, let's start with the big breaking news, sbebb— with the big breaking news, shall—bridgen. with the big breaking news,- shall_bridgen has shall we? andrew bridgen has beers— shall we? andrew bridgen has been kicked— shall we? andrew bridgen has been kicked out— shall we? andrew bridgen has been kicked out of the conservative - been kicked out of the conservative after conservative party after he sembereb— conservative party after he compared covid vaccines to compared covid 19 vaccines to the holocaust.— compared covid 19 vaccines to the holocaust. bridgen was also reent— the holocaust. bridgen was also bebrbb be— the holocaust. bridgen was also bebrbb be beve— the holocaust. bridgen was also found to have breached lobbying retes— found to have breached lobbying rubes by— found to have breached lobbying rubes by e— found to have breached lobbying rules by a disciplinary panel. bew— rules by a disciplinary panel. new be— rules by a disciplinary panel. new be sews— rules by a disciplinary panel. now he says he's— rules by a disciplinary panel. now he says he's been expelled brew— now he says he's been expelled brem bbe— now he says he's been expelled bbere bbe barbe— now he says he's been expelled from the party, quote, under berse— from the party, quote, under false pretences._ from the party, quote, under false pretences. bridgen has been— false pretences. bridgen has been e— false pretences. bridgen has been e bery— false pretences. bridgen has been a tory mp— false pretences. bridgen has been a tory mp since 2010. he besb— been a tory mp since 2010. he besb bbe— been a tory mp since 2010. he besb bbe wbbb— been a tory mp since 2010. he lost the whip in— been a tory mp since 2010. he lost the whip in january. now it's lost the whip in january. now its bmberbebb— lost the whip in january. now it's important to— lost the whip in january. now it's important to say that a lot of it's important to say that a lot eb beebbe— it's important to say that a lot of people found— it's important to say that a lot of people found what andrew
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brbbgers— of people found what andrew brbbgers sere— of people found what andrew bridgen said was morally unconscionable. a lot of people betwe— unconscionable. a lot of people bewbb bb— unconscionable. a lot of people found it misguided . a lot of found it misguided. a lot of beebbe— found it misguided. a lot of beebbe bbebgbb— found it misguided. a lot of people thought it was freedom of speech — people thought it was freedom of speech ebb — people thought it was freedom of speech and that— people thought it was freedom of speech and that you shouldn't beve— speech and that you shouldn't have besb— speech and that you shouldn't have lost his— speech and that you shouldn't have lost his job.— speech and that you shouldn't have lost his job. i will be aging,— have lost his job. i will be talking, hopefully a little bit taber— talking, hopefully a little bit beber erb— talking, hopefully a little bit beber err be— talking, hopefully a little bit later on to bridgen later on to andrew bridgen bbmseb— later on to andrew bridgen himself right— later on to andrew bridgen himself right on this show himself right here on this show so we can have— himself right here on this show so we can have chat with him so we can have a chat with him ebebb—eerbb- so we can have a chat with him about—can't we?- so we can have a chat with him| about—can't we? but about all of that, can't we? but brbegerb— about all of that, can't we? but bridges-rew— about all of that, can't we? but bridgen my expulsion from bridgen said my expulsion from the conservative— bridgen said my expulsion from the conservative party under berse— the conservative party underi false _confirms the conservative party under falsculture confirms the conservative party under falsculture corruptionirms the conservative party under falsculture corruption and the culture of corruption and sebwsbeb— the culture of corruption and collusion and— the culture of corruption and collusion and cover ups which bbegbes— collusion and cover ups which bbegbes eur— collusion and cover ups which plagues our political system . i plagues our political system. i beve— plagues our political system. i have beers— plagues our political system. i have been e— plagues our political system. i have been a vocal— plagues our political system. i have been a vocal critic of the vaccine rollout_ have been a vocal critic of the vaccine rollout and the party beve— vaccine rollout and the party have been— vaccine rollout and the party have been sure— vaccine rollout and the party have been sure to make an exempte— have been sure to make an exembbe eb— have been sure to make an exembbe eb me— have been sure to make an example of me. do you think bbeb-s— example of me. do you think bbeb-s wbeb— example of me. do you think that's what did— example of me. do you think that's what did for him? ladies erre— that's what did for him? ladies and gentlemen,— that's what did for him? ladies and gentlemen, do you think that it and gentlemen, do you think that b rs— and gentlemen, do you think that b is bbe— and gentlemen, do you think that b is bbe feeb— and gentlemen, do you think that it is the fact that— and gentlemen, do you think that it is the fact that he has been a it is the fact that he has been e erbbbe— it is the fact that he has been e erbbbe eb— it is the fact that he has been a critic of the— it is the fact that he has been a critic of the vaccine? was it maybe— a critic of the vaccine? was it maybe be — a critic of the vaccine? was it maybe be be — a critic of the vaccine? was it maybe to do with— a critic of the vaccine? was it maybe to do with the language bbeb— maybe to do with the language bbeb be — maybe to do with the language bbeb be-es— maybe to do with the language that he -as well?- maybe to do with the language that he as well? at that he used as well? at gbnews.uk,_ that he used as well? at gbnews.uk, joined now with gbnews.uk, i'm joined now with mere-wbbb— gbnews.uk, i'm joined now with mere-wbbb eur— gbnews.uk, i'm joined now with more with our deputy more on this with our deputy bebbbeb— more on this with our deputyi political—harwood. political editor, tom harwood. be-s— political editor, tom harwood. be-s rbgbb— political editor, tom harwood. he's right here— political editor, tom harwood. he's right here in— political editor, tom harwood. he's right here in studio. he's right here in the studio. 50,— he's right here in the studio. se-weeb— he's right here in the studio. so,-yeah,-news- he's right here in the studio.- so,-yeah,-news dropped so, tom, yeah, this news dropped not so, tom, yeah, this news dropped web-berg— so, tom, yeah, this news dropped web-berg age.— so, tom, yeah, this news dropped beblbersg ege. se— so, tom, yeah, this news dropped not long ago. so bridging not so long ago. so bridging ebb. —bb-s- out. that's right. it's a decision that was not made today. the decision today. actually, the decision was week ago in the was made over a week ago in the middle this month, the 15th
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middle of this month, the 15th of april, when the conservative party panel decided expel party panel decided to expel andrew . the why andrew bridgen. the reason why this story broken until this story hasn't broken until today, is that there is today, however, is that there is a 28 day reflection period whereby andrew bridgen can appeal this decision by the party, and we're still within that period. so it seems like this has leaked out before. it was supposed to because andrew bridgen might well be appealing this decision and that is the due process of the system. of course, when he lost the whip back in january, he became an independent mp. he wasn't sitting as a conservative mp, but he retained his membership of the party. that's how these systems work. so he says in a nutshell, he's been booted out because he stood up for the vaccine. injured because he stood up for the vaccine . injured really, and vaccine. injured really, and seeke— vaccine. injured really, and sbebe ebb— vaccine. injured really, and spoke out against- ertrt injured really, and spoke out against what he would say spoke out against what he would set rs— spoke out against what he would set is e— spoke out against what he would sew is e sever— spoke out against what he would sew is e bb— spoke out against what he would say is a cover up about the side ebbeebs— say is a cover up about the side ebbeebs eb— say is a cover up about the side effects of the _ say is a cover up about the side effects of the vaccine. but he be — effects of the vaccine. but he be beb— effects of the vaccine. but he be bbeb br— effects of the vaccine. but he did that in quite _ effects of the vaccine. but he did that in quite a specific way , ebb-b— did that in quite a specific way , ebb-b bee — did that in quite a specific way , didn't he? right.— did that in quite a specific way , didn't he? md his , didn't he? right. his contention— , didn't he? right. his contention is- , didn't he? 33 his contention is that he is being sberreeb— contention is that he is being sberreeb err— contention is that he is being silenced on this— contention is that he is being silenced on this issue. the conservative— silenced on this issue. the conservative party, however, say beb— conservative party, however, say bbeb, mbmerb— conservative party, however, say that, number one,— conservative party, however, say
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that, number one, comparing the vaccine rollout_ that, number one, comparing the vaccine rollout or— that, number one, comparing the vaccine rollout or the vaccine bbseb— vaccine rollout or the vaccine bbseb be — vaccine rollout or the vaccine itself to the— vaccine rollout or the vaccine itself to the holocaust was gress— itself to the holocaust was gress .— itself to the holocaust was gross , irresponsible, something gross, irresponsible, something berbebs— gross, irresponsible, something berbebs em— gross, irresponsible, something berbebs em e— gross, irresponsible, something berbebs em e ber— gross, irresponsible, something perhaps on a par of what diane abbebb— perhaps on a par of what diane abbebb sere— perhaps on a par of what diane abbott said over— perhaps on a par of what diane abbott said over the weekend . abbott said over the weekend. eme— abbott said over the weekend. eme sewe— abbott said over the weekend. one could draw— abbott said over the weekend. one could draw a— abbott said over the weekend. one could draw a comparison bbere.— one could draw a comparison bbere. mew-re— one could draw a comparison there. they're both mps who've besb— there. they're both mps who've besb bbe— there. they're both mps who've besb bbe wbbb— there. they're both mps who've lost the whip after perhaps mmbmbsbg— lost the whip after perhaps minimising the— lost the whip after perhaps minimising the impact of the bebeeeusb— minimising the impact of the holocaust, although it must be sere— holocaust, although it must be sebb bbeb— holocaust, although it must be said that andrew— holocaust, although it must be said that andrew bridgen says beb— said that andrew bridgen says bbeb be— said that andrew bridgen says bbeb be ws— said that andrew bridgen says that he was quoting actually someone who _ that he was quoting actually someone who was jewish in regard to someone who was jewish in regard be bbeb— someone who was jewish in regard be bbeb bweeb. — someone who was jewish in regard to that tweet. but— someone who was jewish in regard to that tweet. but i— someone who was jewish in regard to that tweet. but i think many beebbe— to that tweet. but i think many beebbe bbbb— to that tweet. but i think many people think that— to that tweet. but i think many people think that that tweet was mist-beget.— people think that that tweet was mbsteegee. bbe— people think that that tweet was misjudged. the other half of ms— misjudged. the other half of bbbs eb— misjudged. the other half of this, of course,— misjudged. the other half of this, of course, the what this, of course, is the what mem— this, of course, is the what memw eb— this, of course, is the what many of andrew- this, of course, is the what many of andrew bridgen's, former eebbeegees— many of andrew bridgen's, former colleagues have— many of andrew bridgen's, former colleagues have said to me is an bereesbg— colleagues have said to me is an increasing obsession with this one issue. there's no doubt that bbere— one issue. there's no doubt that bbere-seme— one issue. there's no doubt that there-some people- one issue. there's no doubt that there some people who were there were some people who were bbeb— there were some people who were bbeb-bbe— there were some people who were injured .the vaccine, _ there were some people who were injured the vaccine, and they injured by the vaccine, and they beet—beb- feel very aggrieved. but as a breberbbem— feel very aggrieved. but as a breberbbem eb— feel very aggrieved. but as a proportion of those who took the tbs— proportion of those who took the vaccine, it's infinitely awesomely- vaccine, it's infinitely awesomely small and in the eyes of awesomely small and in the eyes eb mem— awesomely small and in the eyes eb memw m— awesomely small and in the eyes eb memw b be— awesomely small and in the eyes of many in the conservative party,— of many in the conservative partye andrew— of many in the conservative party, andrew bridgen's focus on this party, andrew bridgen's focus on bbbs — party, andrew bridgen's focus on this issue. the— party, andrew bridgen's focus on this issue. the number of bweebs— this issue. the number of bweebs ber— this issue. the number of tweets, for example , he has sent tweets, for example, he has sent on tweets, for example, he has sent em bbbs— tweets, for example, he has sent em bbbs bbe— tweets, for example, he has sent on this, the number— tweets, for example, he has sent on this, the number of the sort of on this, the number of the sort eb eebse— on this, the number of the sort of cause celeb— on this, the number of the sort of cause celeb that this has bee—
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of cause celeb that this has be ber— of cause celeb that this has become for him _ of cause celeb that this has become for him is completely disproportionate— become for him is completely disproportionate . and in many disproportionate. and in many webs— disproportionate. and in many ways overemphasises the scale of the ways overemphasises the scale of bbe — ways overemphasises the scale of the issue. yeah,— ways overemphasises the scale of the issue. yeah, i— ways overemphasises the scale of the issue. “43?“ " the issue. yeah, i mean, look, obviously i'm again, i'm going to emphasise i'm hoping to speak to emphasise i'm hoping to speak to andrew bridgen within the next hour so we can put all of this to him, can't we? i imagine, tom, that he would say he's speaking up for people who are not are marginalised, who are not given and that given a voice, and that potentially there was a bit of misinformation safety misinformation about the safety about maybe he about it initially. and maybe he feels as though this is well, clearly he feels this is the hill to die on. well, hill he wants to die on. well, certainly seems hill he wants to die on. well, certainlylseems that- " ll r: lift“ well, certainly seems that way certainly it seems that way beese— certainly it seems that way because-has— certainly it seems that way because has doubled down on because he has doubled down on bbese— because he has doubled down on bbese sbebms— because he has doubled down on these claims in— because he has doubled down on these claims in the— because he has doubled down on these claims in the previous few membbs. — these claims in the previous few. months. _claims, months. there have been claims, however, that people have contested that andrew bridgen has efficacy has made on safety and efficacy of the covid vaccine and i think it's fair to say that authoritative bodies or authoritative bodies or authoritative bodies or authoritative bodies have said that the things that that some of the things that andrew bridgen has said have turned be false. tom, turned out to be false. tom, thank you very much.- tom, thank you very much. our deputy bebbbeb— thank you very much. our deputy political editor. _ thank you very much. our deputy political editor. that tom berweee. — political editor. that tom. berweee. —geb political editor. that tom- harwood. _get your harwood. yes. yes. can get your wews— harwood. yes. yes. can get your sembg— harwood. yes. yes. can get your views coming in— views coming in vaiews@gbnews.uk do views coming in— vaiews@gbnews.uk do you think eemmg b— giwast/s@gbnews.uk do you think eemmg b— giwas morally ws.uk do you think eesemmg b— giwas morally unconscionable? �*ik it was morally unconscionable? andrew—thel andrew bridgen said about the
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vaccines—the- vaccines in relation to the holocaust? _ vaccines in relation to the holocaust? that vaccines in relation to the. holocaust? _that just vaccines in relation to the- holocaust?-that just a holocaust? okay. is that just a reebw— holocaust? okay. is that just a reebw bbe— holocaust? okay. is that just a reebb bbeb eb— holocaust? okay. is that just a really kind of sick— holocaust? okay. is that just a really kind of sick parallel to brew— really kind of sick parallel to draw _freedom - really kind of sick parallel to draw freedom speech draw or is it freedom of speech 7 draw or is it freedom of speech e be— draw or is it freedom of speech e be you— draw or is it freedom of speech e be wee bbbb— draw or is it freedom of speech ? do you think that there is, you— ? do you think that there is, wet brew,— ? do you think that there is, you know, maybe the tory party beve—beeww- you know, maybe the tory party have heavy handed have been a bit heavy handed wbbb— have been a bit heavy handed wbbb-bbbse— have been a bit heavy handed with _this?-yes,- with all of this? so, yes, a bbbbe— with all of this? so, yes, a bbbbe bb— with all of this? so, yes, a little bit later— with all of this? so, yes, a little bit later on, i will be bebbbg— little bit later on, i will be bebbbg be— little bit later on, i will be talking to the— little bit later on, i will be talking to the man himself. bbgers— talking to the man himself. fingers crossed,— talking to the man himself. fingers crossed, but we'll have beets—mew,- fingers crossed, but we'll have. loads—now, though, loads more on that now, though, to loads more on that now, though, be-b— loads more on that now, though, be-b sbbem - loads more on that now, though, to-in sudan. but- to the crisis in sudan. but i webb— to the crisis in sudan. but i wemb be— to the crisis in sudan. but i want to broaden— to the crisis in sudan. but i want to broaden this out. so webb— want to broaden this out. so we-b beb— want to broaden this out. so we'll talk now,— want to broaden this out. so we'll talk now, though, about in the we'll talk now, though, about in bbe—bbsb- we'll talk now, though, about in the _first flight. the last hour, the first flight eerrwmg — the last hour, the first flight carrying nationals the last hour, the first flight carrying from nationals the last hour, the first flight carrying from nati country has evacuated from the country has tbsb— evacuated from the country has tbsb-eebbebbw— evacuated from the country has just actually stansted just landed actually at stansted abberb. — just landed actually at stansted abberb. -bebr- just landed actually at stansted airport. four flights airport. a total of four flights eerrwmg— airport. a total of four flights eerrwbg-beebbe- airport. a total of four flights carrying people have thus carrying 301. people have thus far carrying 301. people have thus fer-seem.— carrying 301. people have thus far sudan. another raf far left sudan. another raf bbeme — far left sudan. another raf bbeme wes— far left sudan. another raf plane was preparing to take off bem— plane was preparing to take off brem em— plane was preparing to take off from an airstrip— plane was preparing to take off from an airstrip near the eebbbeb— from an airstrip near the eebbeb eb— from an airstrip near the capital of khartoum. this ebbemeem. — capital of khartoum. this afternoon. i'm— capital of khartoum. this afternoon. i'm joined now by gb wews— afternoon. i'm joined now by gb bews beme— afternoon. i'm joined now by gb news home and— afternoon. i'm joined now by gb news home and security editor berk— news home and security editor berb bbe— news home and security editor mark white. so,— news home and security editor mark white. so, mark, look, we brew— mark white. so, mark, look, we knew bbbs— mark white. so, mark, look, we know this plane— mark white. so, mark, look, we know this plane is— mark white. so, mark, look, we know this plane is landed and we knew— know this plane is landed and we knew bbeb— know this plane is landed and we know that people— know this plane is landed and we know that people have been gebbbg— know that people have been gebbbg ebb— know that people have been getting off that— know that people have been getting off that plane we know that people have been get'hoping that plane we know that people have been get'hoping shortly ane we know that people have been get'hoping shortly anyway we know that people have been get'hoping shortly anyway toe are hoping shortly anyway to beb— are hoping shortly anyway to bebb be— are hoping shortly anyway to bebb be e— are hoping shortly anyway to talk to a chap— are hoping shortly anyway to talk to a chap who's just got off talk to a chap who's just got ebb-bbere,— talk to a chap who's just got off-plane, the- talk to a chap who's just got off plane, the question has off that plane, the question has bee— off that plane, the question has be e— off that plane, the question has become a little— off that plane, the question has become a little bit— off that plane, the question has become a little bit of broader become a little bit of a broader ebe—brbbsbl one. now, these aren't british sbreebs— one. now, these aren't british citizens,-they?- one. now, these aren't british citizens, they? and some citizens, aren't they? and some beebbe— citizens, aren't they? and some beebbe ere— citizens, aren't they? and some people are raising— citizens, aren't they? and some people are raising concerns ebebb— people are raising concerns ebebb-er-wel people are raising concerns- about-or-we would people are raising concerns- abouta-or-we would people are raising concerns abouta moral or we would people are raising concerns abouta moral obligation would
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people are raising concerns abouta moral obligation wrtake have a moral obligation to take refugees— have a moral obligation to take more refugees from sudan and mewbe— more refugees from sudan and mewbe-beme— more refugees from sudan and maybe home secretary, as maybe the home secretary, as web— maybe the home secretary, as well—concerns. maybe the home secretary, as. well—concerns over well as has raised concerns over bbeb. — well as has raised concerns over bbeb. -r— well as has raised concerns over bbeb. -r-bbere- well as has raised concerns over that. _i-there is. well as has raised concerns over that. _i-there is no that. yeah, i mean, there is no doubt if someone was to doubt that if someone was to come here and claim asylum come from sudan , then they would have from sudan, then they would have a very significant and strong chance of being accepted for asylum. that's different to actually setting up a safe and secure route. there is a safe and secure route for british nationals and other international countries are doing the same for ensuring that their citizens are safe, that their citizens are safe, that their nationals are out of the country and that is the first priority for all of these governments. and it may be that further down the road, as we saw with the likes of ukraine, depending on how the situation was , sins in sudan over the was, sins in sudan over the coming days and weeks and months that the actually do set up some kind of program giving sudanese who are not british nationals an
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opportunity to apply for refugee status to come here. that's the way these emergency situations normally operate . yeah, no, normally operate. yeah, no, indeed. normally operate. yeah, no, bbeeb . amb— normally operate. yeah, no, indeed . and we— normally operate. yeah, no, indeed . and we are- yeah, no, indeed . and we are going to be indeed. and we are going to be keeping— indeed. and we are going to be keeping wee— indeed. and we are going to be keeping you “p— indeed. and we are going to be keeping you ”p to_ indeed. and we are going to be keeping you up to date, of course, as more- keeping you up to date, of course, as more planes bresemebbw— course, as more planes presumably come in. as i've setb— presumably come in. as i've sebb we— presumably come in. as i've sebb we ere— presumably come in. as i've said, we are just— presumably come in. as i've said, we are just waiting to get clearance from _ said, we are just waiting to get clearance from an— said, we are just waiting to get clearance from an individual who has clearance from an individual who bes tbsb— clearance from an individual who bes tesb geb— clearance from an individual who bes tesb geb ebb— clearance from an individual who has just got off that plane. so bebembw— has just got off that plane. so bebembbw we— has just got off that plane. so hopefully we will— has just got off that plane. so hopefully we will go to them rebebbebw— relatively shortly. but mark, bbese— relatively shortly. but mark, these .these _ relatively shortly. but mark, these .these - all - relatively shortly. but mark, these these all british these are these are all british sbreebs— these are these are all british ebbbems wbe— these are these are all british citizens who are— these are these are all british citizens who are coming at citizens who are coming back at the citizens who are coming back at bbe-rsm-b— citizens who are coming back at bbe-rsm-b bbe- citizens who are coming back at the-isn't it? and- citizens who are coming back at the-isn't it? and as. citizens who are coming back at the isn't it? and as we the moment. isn't it? and as we embersbemb— the moment. isn't it? and as we understand it,— the moment. isn't it? and as we understand it, there could be ebeeb— understand it, there could be about several— understand it, there could be about several thousand others bbeb— about several thousand othersi bbeb—web. that need evacuating as well. veeb— that need evacuating as well. veeblbbere-s— that need evacuating as well. yeah ithere's up— that need evacuating as well. yeah ithere's up to _ that need evacuating as well. yeahlthere's up to 4000- that need evacuating as well. yeah there's up to 4000 british yeah, there's up to 4000 british passport holders in sudan . we're passport holders in sudan. we're told actually that . 301. people told actually that. 301. people have been brought out of sudan so far . and have been brought out of sudan so far. and now have been brought out of sudan so far . and now not have been brought out of sudan so far. and now not all of them , we understand, are british passport holders, because really it's with these situations, it's kind of all hands to the pumps. and in the same way that german
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or french or other nations will have taken uk nationals out of that country, we will do the same for other passport holders, get them to the west as quickly as possible. for instance, we've had naval vessels from saudi arabia making that short journey from the port of sudan across the red sea to jeddah . and the the red sea to jeddah. and the latest one to arrive at 1700 people from 50 separate countries, including the uk. so everybody pitches in to help. but yes , the british effort but yes, the british effort primarily is for british passport holders. and they will they will form the vast majority of those coming out. yeah. and thatis of those coming out. yeah. and that is a big question- of those coming out. yeah. and that is a big question that- that is a big question that i wemb— that is a big question that i wemb be— that is a big question that i want to throw— that is a big question that i want to throw over to you today, testes— want to throw over to you today, bebbes emb— want to throw over to you today, ladies and gentlemen, because gemg— ladies and gentlemen, because gebg be— ladies and gentlemen, because we're going to be— ladies and gentlemen, because we're going to be going in at bbe— we're going to be going in at bbe beb— we're going to be going in at bbe beb eb— we're going to be going in at the top of every— we're going to be going in at the top of every hour, i think, on the top of every hour, i think, em bbbs— the top of every hour, i think, on this, which— the top of every hour, i think, on this, which is— the top of every hour, i think, on this, which is that do you the top of every hour, i think, on tias. which is that do you the top of every hour, i think, on tias though, s that do you the top of every hour, i think, on tias though, in hat do you the top of every hour, i think, on tias though, in lighto you the top of every hour, i think, on tias though, in light of ou feel as though, in light of wbeb-s— feel as though, in light of what's happening in sudan, we as a what's happening in sudan, we as e mebbem— what's happening in sudan, we as e mebbem beve— what's happening in sudan, we as a nation havelmoral_ what's happening in sudan, we as a nation have moral obligation a nation have a moral obligation
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to a nation have a moral obligation be—bewemb- a nation have a moral obligation to_beyond britishi to take refugees beyond british ebbbems. — to take refugees beyond british citizens. _think- to take refugees beyond british citizens.-think-we| citizens. do you think that we beve— citizens. do you think that we bewe bbeb— citizens. do you think that we have that moral— citizens. do you think that we have that moral obligation? i wemb— have that moral obligation? i wemb weer— have that moral obligation? i want your views— have that moral obligation? i want your views on that. gbviews@gbnews.uk want your views on that. gbviews@g more s.uk want your views on that. gbviews@g more from if quickly, one more from you. if bbeb-s— quickly, one more from you. if bbeb-s eb— quickly, one more from you. if that's all right.— quickly, one more from you. if that's all right. we are that's all right. well, we are membbembg— that's all right. well, we are mentioning braverman . that's all right. well, we are- mentioning-braverman . she that's all right. well, we are- meiclaim g-braverman . she that's all right. well, we are meiclaim today braverman . she that's all right. well, we are meiclaim today that'averman . she that's all right. well, we are meiclaim today that asylumi . she did claim today that asylum seeebrs— did claim today that asylum- seekers-on-boats seekers who come on small boats are seekers who come on small boats beg— seekers who come on small boats beg teeters— seekers who come on small boats are drug dealers and traffickers and are drug dealers and traffickers emb bbbs— are drug dealers and traffickers emb bbbs bes— are drug dealers and traffickers and this has caused a huge emem— and this has caused a huge ememb eb— and this has caused a huge amount of controversy when , as amount of controversy when, as ebwews— amount of controversy when, as ebwews wbbb— amount of controversy when, as ebwews wbbb e— amount of controversy when, as always with a headline , it always with a headline, it beesm-b— always with a headline, it doesn't really— always with a headline, it doesn't really give a true indication— doesn't really give a true indication of— doesn't really give a true indication of what the actual emmeb— indication of what the actual comment probably was meant to bmberb. — comment probably was meant to bmberb. sbe— comment probably was meant to bmberb. sbe .— comment probably was meant to bmberb. sbe . es— comment probably was meant to impart. she , as you- comment probably was meant to impart. she, as you know, other government ministers have said over recent months and years, it's not saying that everyone coming across the channel is a drug trafficker , is involved in drug trafficker, is involved in criminality, but certainly a proportion of those coming in small boats are not just drug traffickers , criminals involved traffickers, criminals involved served in other aspects of criminality, but potentially also are, you know, people that have a security motty concern
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over them as well. you know, we know that former members of the islamic state terror group have been among those who have come across in recent months across the channel as well. so i'm sure that she meant a proportion of those and not all of those. absolutely, mark, thank- absolutely, mark, thank you werw— absolutely, mark, thank you verve werw— absolutely, mark, thank you verve verw mesm— absolutely, mark, thank you very, very much. mark wight bbere.— very, very much. mark wight bbere. ob— very, very much. mark wight there. our home— very, very much. mark wight there. our home security editor emb— there. our home security editor emb bebere— there. our home security editor and before him,— there. our home security editor and before him, of— there. our home security editor and before him, of course, tom berweeb— and before him, of course, tom berweeb em— and before him, of course, tom harwood on this— and before him, of course, tom harwood on this story. it harwood on this big story. it reebbw— harwood on this big story. it reebbw bes— harwood on this big story. it reebbw bes geb— harwood on this big story. it really has got going in the bber— really has got going in the inbox about— really has got going in the inbox about that news about ambrew— inbox about that news about andrew—bbe- inbox about that news aboutj andrew—the way, andrew bridgen, by the way, wbebber— andrew bridgen, by the way, wbebber-wee- andrew bridgen, by the way, whether you think whether or not you think that be-s— whether or not you think that bes-berser— whether or not you think that he's forced whether he's been forced out, whether be-s— he's been forced out, whether be-s beem— he's been forced out, whether he's been-out- he's been forced out, whether he's been out rather he's been nudged out rather bbeb,— he's been nudged out rather unfair, erroneously, unfairly in rebebbem— unfair, erroneously, unfairly in relation comments, relation to his comments, of seerse-bbe— relation to his comments, of course, the vaccine and course, about the vaccine and eemberbg— course, about the vaccine and eemberbg bb— course, about the vaccine and eemberbg b be— course, about the vaccine and comparing it to the worst thing sme— comparing it to the worst thing sbee—ebl comparing it to the worst thingi sbee—eb web since the holocaust. lots of you gebbbg— since the holocaust. lots of you gebbbglbebeb— since the holocaust. lots of you getting-touch as— since the holocaust. lots of you getting touch as this a getting in touch as this is a bbsgreee— getting in touch as this is a ebsgreee, es— getting in touch as this is a disgrace, as jim— getting in touch as this is a disgrace, as jim and he's been seebee— disgrace, as jim and he's been sacked because— disgrace, as jim and he's been sacked because he exposed the vaccine consequences of vaccine and the consequences of it. vaccine and the consequences of b. —be-s— vaccine and the consequences of b. —be-s e— vaccine and the consequences of bb—be-s e bere- it. jim thinks he's a hero. bbere— it. jim thinks he's a hero. there obviously school of there is obviously a school of bbeegbb— there is obviously a school of bbeegbb, im— there is obviously a school of thought, jim, that says that he tbsb— thought, jim, that says that he tesb sbeebbm-b— thought, jim, that says that he just shouldn't have used that semerbsemb— just shouldn't have used that comparisonihe_ just shouldn't have used that comparison he shouldn't comparison. he shouldn't have used— comparison. he shouldn't have used-comparison- used that comparison and bebembbebbw— used that comparison and potentially numbers used that comparison and- potentially-numbers when potentially see the numbers when it potentially see the numbers when bb-bbe— potentially see the numbers when bb-bbe eeeme- potentially see the numbers when it the vaccine, injured it comes to the vaccine, injured are it comes to the vaccine, injured ere-sere— it comes to the vaccine, injured ere-sew .— it comes to the vaccine, injured ere-sew , eb- it comes to the vaccine, injured are-said , at the-
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it comes to the vaccine, injured are said , at the same are off. that said, at the same bime— are off. that said, at the same am, e— are off. that said, at the same am, e beb— are off. that said, at the same am, e beb eb— are off. that said, at the same time, a lot of people feel as bbebgb— time, a lot of people feel as bbebgb-bs— time, a lot of people feel as though-is really- time, a lot of people feel as though is really no though there is really no representation whatsoever for beebbe— representation whatsoever for beebbe wbe — representation whatsoever for people who were— representation whatsoever for people who were harmed as a resub— people who were harmed as a reset eb— people who were harmed as a result of taking— people who were harmed as a result of taking the vaccine and bbeb— result of taking the vaccine and bbeb mewbe — result of taking the vaccine and that maybe there— result of taking the vaccine and that maybe there was elements of b— that maybe there was elements of coercion in order— that maybe there was elements of coercion in order to— that maybe there was elements of coercion in order to take it. so for coercion in order to take it. so ber ee— coercion in order to take it. so ber greet— coercion in order to take it. so ber greeb eb— coercion in order to take it. so for one group of people, andrew brbbgem— for one group of people, andrew brbbgem bs— for one group of people, andrew brbbgem bs em— for one group of people, andrew bridgen is an absolute hero. for emebber— bridgen is an absolute hero. for emebber greet— bridgen is an absolute hero. for another group of— bridgen is an absolute hero. for another group of people, he deserves— another group of people, he besewes—sei deserves to lose his job. so wbbbever— deserves to lose his job. so whichever particular side of the tense — whichever particular side of the emcees-— whichever particular side of the bemeeem- gebs— whichever particular side of the fence-on gets in- whichever particular side of the fence on gets in touch. fence you're on gets in touch. me— fence you're on gets in touch. me emeb— fence you're on gets in touch. the email address the bottom the email address at the bottom of the email address at the bottom eb-sereem— the email address at the bottom of-screen there. _ the email address at the bottom of screen there. will be of the screen there. i will be bebbbg— of the screen there. i will be bebbbg-mem- of the screen there. i will be talking man himself very, talking to the man himself very, werw— talking to the man himself very, werw-bbb— talking to the man himself very, very-but before- talking to the man himself very, very but before the very shortly. but before the zeb— very shortly. but before the 2019-election,- 2019 general election, the conservatives _ 2019 general election, the conservatives to 2019 general election, the- conservatives _to hire conservatives promised to hire 20,000—bw- conservatives promised to hirej 20,000—w besb 20,000 police officers. by last memb— 20,000 police officers. by last membb emb— 20,000 police officers. by last month, and they've done it . yes, month, and they've done it. yes, bbeb-s— month, and they've done it. yes, bbeb-s rbgbb— month, and they've done it. yes, that's right. reportedly, home seereberw— that's right. reportedly, home secretary suella_ that's right. reportedly, home secretary suella braverman says bbeb— secretary suella braverman says bbeb-misberb— secretary suella braverman says that historic moment for that it's a historic moment for bbe— that it's a historic moment for bbe bb— that it's a historic moment for the uk provisional home office. bbgbres— the uk provisional home office. figures published— the uk provisional home office. figures published today revealed that figures published today revealed bbeb e— figures published today revealed bbeb e bebeb— figures published today revealed that a total of— figures published today revealed that a total of 20,951 extra reerwbs— that a total of 20,951 extra recruits have— that a total of 20,951 extra recruits have joined police berees— recruits have joined police bres b— recruits have joined police forces in england and wales. but bebew— forces in england and wales. but bebew r— forces in england and wales. but bebew r wemb— forces in england and wales. but beeew r wemb be— forces in england and wales. but today i want to ask— forces in england and wales. but today i want to ask who would eebeebw— today i want to ask who would eebeebw wemb— today i want to ask who would actually want to _ today i want to ask who would actually want to be a police ebbberb— actually want to be a police officer? would _ actually want to be a police officer? would you want to be a tense— officer? would you want to be a police officer? _ officer? would you want to be a police officer? they're abused, not police officer? they're abused, meb bresbeb— police officer? they're abused, not trusted by— police officer? they're abused, not trusted by huge sections of the community. _ not trusted by huge sections of the community. obe in many
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cases, sometimes— the community. obe in many cases, sometimes with good reason,-be said,- cases, sometimes with good reason, be said, they reason, it must be said, they beee— reason, it must be said, they beee bbe— reason, it must be said, they face the constant— reason, it must be said, they face the constant threat of essebbb— face the constant threat of assault-they're - face the constant threat of. assault-they're .and assault when they're out and ebebb— assault when they're out and ebebb .— assault when they're out and ebebb . amb— assault when they're out and about . and it's— assault when they're out and about . and it's not like your about. and it's not like your remb— about. and it's not like your rem-bbe— about. and it's not like your rank-file copper- about. and it's not like your rank file copper is even rank and file copper is even bere— rank and file copper is even bere bbeb— rank and file copper is even paid that much,— rank and file copper is even paid that much, is it? i am joined— paid that much, is it? i am tebeb mew— paid that much, is it? i am tebee bw— paid that much, is it? i am joined now by a- paid that much, is it? i am joined now by a chap who's going to joined now by a chap who's going be gbe— joined now by a chap who's going be gbe brs— joined now by a chap who's going to give his answers.— joined now by a chap who's going to give his answers. he's former bebbe— to give his answers. he's former bebee ebbber— to give his answers. he's former police officer and— to give his answers. he's former police officer and the author of the police officer and the author of bbe beek— police officer and the author of bbe beeb bew— police officer and the author of the book how to— police officer and the author of the book how to be a police ember.— the book how to be a police ebbber. se— the book how to be a police officer. so tell— the book how to be a police officer. so tell you, if this guy— officer. so tell you, if this gew beesm-b— officer. so tell you, if this guy doesn't have some answers for guy doesn't have some answers ber bs— guy doesn't have some answers ber bbeb— guy doesn't have some answers for us, then nobody will. all rbgbb. — for us, then nobody will. all rbgbb. rb-s— for us, then nobody will. all right. it's graham wesson. emem,— right. it's graham wesson. grahame-very] right. it's graham wesson.- graham,-very, very graham, thank you very, very meeb. — graham, thank you very, very meeb. bew— graham, thank you very, very meeb. new-b- graham, thank you very, very much. now in this day and much. now look, in this day and age— much. now look, in this day and age ,— much. now look, in this day and ege -webbb— much. now look, in this day and ege -webbb-be- much. now look, in this day and age ,-would-to be- much. now look, in this day and age ,-would-to be a. age, who would want to be a eebberb— age, who would want to be a copper? because— age, who would want to be a copper? because from where i'm sbbbbg— copper? because from where i'm sbbbbg-geb— copper? because from where i'm sbbbbg-geb weer- copper? because from where i'm sitting, got your body. sitting, you've got your body. ceme —bbe - sitting, you've got your body. come _the time,| sitting, you've got your body.| come _the time, if come on. a lot of the time, if wer— come on. a lot of the time, if we meb— come on. a lot of the time, if you're not filming— come on. a lot of the time, if you're not filming yourself, semebebw— somebody else is filming you. beebbe— somebody else is filming you. beebbe ere— somebody else is filming you. people are walking around with meebebes. — people are walking around with machetes. throwing acid machetes. they're throwing acid eremb— machetes. they're throwing acid around _ everyone . around like confetti. everyone bbbbs—e- around like confetti. everyonei thinks—a racist, thinks you're probably a racist, sexist— thinks you're probably a racist, sexist, homophobe . be sexist, homophobe. why be a better— sexist, homophobe. why be a eebberb — sexist, homophobe. why be a eebberb .— sexist, homophobe. why be a copper ? i don't— sexist, homophobe. why be a copper ? cc?“ c sexist, homophobe. why be a copper ? e ' sexist, homophobe. why be a copper ? e copper? i don't know. and the book sales have plummeted, so clearly not enough . want to know clearly not enough. want to know 7 clearly not enough. want to know ? in clearly not enough. want to know b m ebb— clearly not enough. want to know ? in all honesty,— clearly not enough. want to know ? in all honesty, there— clearly not enough. want to know ? in all honesty, there are- ? in all honesty, there are sbbb— ? in all honesty, there are sbbb memw— ? in all honesty, there are still many people applying to tem— still many people applying to teb .— still many people applying to term . amb— still many people applying to teb . ame bbe— still many people applying to join . and the real truth behind join. and the real truth behind emb— join. and the real truth behind emb egeb— join. and the real truth behind emb egeb ,— join. and the real truth behind and again , lies,— join. and the real truth behind and again , lies, lies, and again, lies, lies, statistics— and again, lies, lies, statistics .- and again, lies, lies, statistics . home office have put statistics. home office have put bbbs— statistics. home office have put bbbs bbgere— statistics. home office have put bbbs bbgbre ebb— statistics. home office have put this figure out there. all they
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are this figure out there. all they bebg— this figure out there. all they bebg bs— this figure out there. all they are doing is replacing the baboo— are doing is replacing the 20,000 police— are doing is replacing the 20,000 police officers they cut in zero.— 20,000 police officers they cut in zero. bbeb— 20,000 police officers they cut in 2010. that doesn't go emwwbere— in 2010. that doesn't go anywhere near- in 2010. that doesn't go anywhere near the 20 odd bbebsemb— anywhere near the 20 odd thousand police support staff bbeb— thousand police support staff bbeb were— thousand police support staff that were cut— thousand police support staff that were cut from 2010. so ebbeebbebw— that were cut from 2010. so effectively policing has lost ebebb— effectively policing has lost ebebb bo— effectively policing has lost ebebb be be— effectively policing has lost about 40 to 50,000 members of sbebb— about 40 to 50,000 members of sbebb b— about 40 to 50,000 members of sbebb b bbe — about 40 to 50,000 members of staff in the last— about 40 to 50,000 members of staff in the last 12— about 40 to 50,000 members of staff in the last 12 years. mew-we— staff in the last 12 years. bbew-we mew— staff in the last 12 years. they've now replaced them with baboo— they've now replaced them with zeooo mew— they've now replaced them with 20,000 new officers who have to geb— 20,000 new officers who have to geb eberbemee— 20,000 new officers who have to geb eberbemee ,— 20,000 new officers who have to gain experience , gain the gain experience, gain the bmewbebge— gain experience, gain the knowledge of— gain experience, gain the knowledge of being a police ebbber— knowledge of being a police ebbber emb— knowledge of being a police officer and get— knowledge of being a police officer and get used to dealing wbbb— officer and get used to dealing wbb ewerwbbbg— officer and get used to dealing with everything you've just entered— with everything you've just ebebeb be— with everything you've just alluded to in— with everything you've just alluded to in your introduction. it's alluded to in your introduction. rb-s meb— alluded to in your introduction. rb-s meb eesw— alluded to in your introduction. it's not easy being police it's not easy being a police ebbber— it's not easy being a police officer these— it's not easy being a police officer these-it's- officer these days. it's a reebbw— officer these days. it's a really challenging job. it can be-rewarding,- really challenging job. it can be rewarding, but again, it be very rewarding, but again, it meets— be very rewarding, but again, it meets-subberb— be very rewarding, but again, it needs-support of- be very rewarding, but again, it needs support of bosses, needs the support of the bosses, the needs the support of the bosses, bbe-beebers— needs the support of the bosses, bbe-beebers ,— needs the support of the bosses, the-leaders , as- needs the support of the bosses, the-leaders , as the- needs the support of the bosses, the leaders , as the casey the senior leaders, as the casey bewew— the senior leaders, as the casey review alluded— the senior leaders, as the casey review alluded to— the senior leaders, as the casey review alluded to ,— the senior leaders, as the casey review alluded to , and the review alluded to, and the bebbbbems. — review alluded to, and the politicians. and— review alluded to, and the politicians. and they need to be bere— politicians. and they need to be bere emebgb— politicians. and they need to be bere emeegb be— politicians. and they need to be paid enough to do— politicians. and they need to be paid enough to do the job. bebee— paid enough to do the job. bebee bew— paid enough to do the job. police pay has— paid enough to do the job. police pay has dropped dramatically- police pay has dropped dramatically in the last talk me bbrebgb— dramatically in the last talk me bbreegb bbe— dramatically in the last talk me bbreegb bbe bew— dramatically in the last talk me through the pay graham because egeb— through the pay graham because egeb wee— through the pay graham because egeb wee gebg— through the pay graham because again you're going to correct me if again you're going to correct me bb rm— again you're going to correct me bb bm wremg— again you're going to correct me if i'm wrong here. _ again you're going to correct me if i'm wrong here. " if i'm wrong here. i've been deaung if i'm wrong here. i've been dealing with non—stop stress like pretty much like armageddon, pretty much every day on this show. so it's easy for me sometimes to get confused, things. but my confused, these things. but my understanding police understanding is that a police can't strike. is that
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can't go on strike. is that right? and what kind of pay, what kind of pay are they on without going through all the history think the last history of it? i think the last bime— history of it? i think the last bbme e— history of it? i think the last bbme e bebbe— history of it? i think the last time a police strike,- " gazing fl i think the last time a police strike, 1919 bebee— time a police strike, 1919 police—camel time a police strike, 1919. police—came into police federation came into being— police federation came into bebg|bbewbe— police federation came intoi beingithey've-it's being, they've not been it's embewbbb— being, they've not been it's unlawful, illegal to strike. tbs— unlawful, illegal to strike. it's unlawful— unlawful, illegal to strike. it's unlawful to cause what's it's unlawful to cause what's better— it's unlawful to cause what's called disaffection within the organisation. _ called disaffection within the organisation. so— called disaffection within the organisation. so you can't even ebebe— organisation. so you can't even etude-bbe- organisation. so you can't even allude-like work- organisation. so you can't even allude like work to allude to sort of like work to rebe— allude to sort of like work to me bb— allude to sort of like work to rule it, etcetera,_ allude to sort of like work to rule it, etcetera, within reason. .there - rule it, etcetera, within reason. there are rules and reason. so there are rules and regbbebbems— reason. so there are rules and regulations that— reason. so there are rules and regulations that stop police ebbbers— regulations that stop police officers having— regulations that stop police officers having the same trade emem— officers having the same trade rbgbbs— officers having the same trade union rights that— officers having the same trade union rights that every other ergemsebbem— union rights that every other organisation has, every other brebessbem— organisation has, every other profession has— organisation has, every other profession has nurses, fire brbgebe— profession has nurses, fire brigade, etcetera , doctors, brigade, etcetera, doctors, wewe— brigade, etcetera, doctors, we've seen them all recently sembg— we've seen them all recently sembg-em— we've seen them all recently coming-on strike.- we've seen them all recently coming on strike. police coming out on strike. police ebbbers— coming out on strike. police officers - allowed - coming out on strike. police officers allowed to do officers are not allowed to do egg,— officers are not allowed to do bbeb-bs— officers are not allowed to do that,-is-whenever| officers are not allowed to do- that,-is-whenever when that, which is why whenever when i that, which is why whenever when r wes— that, which is why whenever when bwes werbbg— that, which is why whenever when i was working and— that, which is why whenever when i was working and serving that was recognised— i was working and serving that was recognised and acknowledged by was recognised and acknowledged bw-gewemmemb— was recognised and acknowledged by government day, by the government of the day, wbbb— by the government of the day, wbbb-bbe — by the government of the day, which _the police - by the government of the day, which the police officers which is why the police officers used— which is why the police officers used-e— which is why the police officers used-e bew— which is why the police officers used-a pay-that- which is why the police officers used a pay that was used to get a pay rise that was in used to get a pay rise that was b-wbb— used to get a pay rise that was in .with inflation.- used to get a pay rise that was in with inflation. that in line with inflation. that sbebbeb— in line with inflation. that stopped about— in line with inflation. that stopped about 12 years ago, sberbbg— stopped about 12 years ago, sberbbg bew— stopped about 12 years ago, starting pay around the mid starting pay is around the mid £20,000. — starting pay is around the mid £20,000. .varies_ starting pay is around the mid £20,000. varies across the £20,000. it varies across the eeembrw— £20,000. it varies across the country-clearly- £20,000. it varies across the country clearly london country and clearly london ebbbers— country and clearly london ebbbers geb— country and clearly london officers get london rates. bembem— officers get london rates. london allowance. but again, as you— london allowance. but again, as web brew,— london allowance. but again, as you know, expensive to you know, it's so expensive to bbe— you know, it's so expensive to be b— you know, it's so expensive to be in bembem— you know, it's so expensive to live in london that many took reerwbs—
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live in london that many took reerwbs ber— live in london that many took recruits for seven _ live in london that many took recruits for seven years. the meg-emw— recruits for seven years. the meterbbw eb— recruits for seven years. the meterbbw eb mw— recruits for seven years. the majority of my recruits all bbeb— majority of my recruits all lived outside _ majority of my recruits all lived outside london and had to brevet— lived outside london and had to brewer b— lived outside london and had to brewer b ewerw— lived outside london and had to travel in every day— lived outside london and had to travel in every day for work. amb— travel in every day for work. ame bbeb-s— travel in every day for work. and that's still— travel in every day for work. and that's still the case. /r:::r. and that's still the case. you knew— and that's still the case. you knew wbeb— and that's still the case. you know what, graham? from where i'm sitting, which thankfully is nowhere near frontline of nowhere near the frontline of being officer, but just being a police officer, but just looking at it does look as looking at it, it does look as though that job has got exponentially difficult exponentially more difficult because there's because i think there's a fundamental lack of respect among especially the young people the moment. wonder people at the moment. i wonder what your take on it is as well when to things like when it comes to things like people about defunding when it comes to things like peo police about defunding when it comes to things like peo police and about defunding when it comes to things like peo police and aboutit defunding the police and about institutional racism. you've got politicians queuing up now to slam the police force. and i just wonder whether or not actually it is about as difficult as it's ever been to do your job. i would i would be do yourjob. i would i would be terrified to even stop and search someone these days because i think i'd be up on some kind of racist or assault charge if i did . so i mean, is charge if i did. so i mean, is it almost impossible to be a cop? it's really challenging bbese— cop? it's really challenging bbese wews.— cop? it's really challenging these days. far— t , it's really challenging these days. far more difficult bbeb— these days. far more difficult bbem wbem— these days. far more difficult bbem wbem r— these days. far more difficult than when i was— these days. far more difficult than when i was working. you knew,— than when i was working. you brew—beve- than when i was working. you know,-have to- than when i was working. you. know,-have to contend know, you didn't have to contend wbbb—bbe- with mobile phones and the serebbw— with mobile phones and the scrutiny—under
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scrutiny that they are under bbese— scrutiny that they are under bbese bews. — scrutiny that they are under these days. in— scrutiny that they are under these days. in some cases, rbgbbbw— these days. in some cases, rbgbbbw se— these days. in some cases, rightly so, but— these days. in some cases, rightly so, but really challenging . you know, the challenging. you know, the mbers— challenging. you know, the mbers eb— challenging. you know, the numbers of assaults has bereeseb— numbers of assaults has increased dramatically on police ebbbers. — increased dramatically on police officers-didn't— increased dramatically on police officers. didn't happen to officers. uin, didn't happen to the officers. um, didn't happen to bbe sme— officers. um, didn't happen to the same extent— officers. um, didn't happen to the same extent in my time in policing— the same extent in my time in bebemg, beb— the same extent in my time in policing, but because there is beek— policing, but because there is beeblresbeeb— policing, but because there is lack-respect and- policing, but because there is lack respect and maybe this lack of respect and maybe this megebbbbw— lack of respect and maybe this negativity that _ lack of respect and maybe this negativity that goes to go negativity that goes seems to go bbreegb— negativity that goes seems to go through certain— negativity that goes seems to go through certain parts of society emb— through certain parts of society ebb—bees- through certain parts of society ebb—berbs ebl through certain parts of societyi and—parts of the and there are some parts of the meme— and there are some parts of the mebbe es— and there are some parts of the media as well— and there are some parts of the media as well against the police , bbere— media as well against the police , there-elements— media as well against the police , there elements society , there are elements of society bbeb— , there are elements of society bbeb tesb— , there are elements of society bbeb tesb beet— , there are elements of society that just feel that— , there are elements of society that just feel that the police are that just feel that the police ebmesb— that just feel that the police are almost like— that just feel that the police are almost like a free a free bergeb— are almost like a free a free bergeb ber— are almost like a free a free target for them.— are almost like a free a free target for them. and they're not gebbbg— target for them. and they're not gebbbg-sebberb— target for them. and they're not getting support the getting the support in the eeerbs—wel getting the support in the- courts_we actually courts either. when we actually erresb— courts either. when we actually erresb-bese- courts either. when we actually arrest these people arrest and take these people to seem— arrest and take these people to eeerblbbere-s— arrest and take these people to court there's deterrent or court, there's no deterrent or werw— court, there's no deterrent or very-deterrent- court, there's no deterrent or very deterrent sentences very few deterrent sentences bebg—eeerbs. i very few deterrent sentences- being_courts. .the being imposed by courts. so the were— being imposed by courts. so the whole—reviewing. whole process needs reviewing emb— whole process needs reviewing ebb-eb— whole process needs reviewing ebb-eb veeb- whole process needs reviewing and-at yeah, it- whole process needs reviewing and at yeah, it does. and looking at yeah, it does. abe— and looking at yeah, it does. and r— and looking at yeah, it does. and r eere— and looking at yeah, it does. and r bere sew— and looking at yeah, it does. and i dare say graham- and looking at yeah, it does. and i dare say graham as well, that it was put to a public that if it was put to a public vote about who you in the public sector be getting the sector should be getting the biggest rises, i mean, biggest pay rises, i mean, i think the police would probably be up there for all of this stupid talk about, oh, well, let's just defund the police. all right. okay. well, what happens slum happens there? or slum the police. up with no police. so we end up with no recruit? i mean, it's no surprise the has missed surprise that the met has missed its target. i mean, they face
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the possible. why the most abuse possible. why would to go and join would anyone want to go and join the police now? the metropolitan police now? because a local because you walk into a local community that you want community and say that you want to join the met, they probably assume that you've pretty assume that you've got pretty catastrophic assume that you've got pretty catastwe hic assume that you've got pretty catastwe go. we're going there we go. look, we're going to leave it there, i'm to have to leave it there, i'm afraid. graham, great chat. graham there, former met graham wetton there, former met police crucially, police officer and crucially, author to be a police author of how to be a police officer hopefully sales officer and hopefully the sales of now spike following of that book now spike following this there this appearance. but there we go. a of this. councils go. get a load of this. councils across the country have been branded killjoys coronation killjoys. right. after killjoys. that's right. after refusing to let people celebrate. wait next week's coronation you're thinking about going local park, going out in your local park, putting blanket down, having a putting a blanket down, having a picnic. now might picnic. seriously? now you might even need planning permission to do world has gone mad. do that. the world has gone mad. i'm christys gb
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listening to gb news radio . listening to gb news radio. yes. welcome back, everybody. now:— yes. welcome back, everybody. new, r— yes. welcome back, everybody. new, r resb— yes. welcome back, everybody. now, i just want— yes. welcome back, everybody. now, i just want to say again bbeb— now, i just want to say again bbeb we— now, i just want to say again bbeb we ere— now, i just want to say again that we are expecting to be beerbg— that we are expecting to be beerbg brem — that we are expecting to be hearing from andrew bridgen rebebbe— hearing from andrew bridgen relative shortly— hearing from andrew bridgen relative shortly on this very sbew. — relative shortly on this very sbew. bew— relative shortly on this very show. now, andrew bridgen has
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besbebbw— show. now, andrew bridgen has basically been— show. now, andrew bridgen has basically been exiled from the conservative— basically been exiled from the conservative party , kicked out conservative party, kicked out of conservative party, kicked out eb bbe— conservative party, kicked out eb bbe berw— conservative party, kicked out eb bbe berw berbw— conservative party, kicked out of the tory party for his comments in- of the tory party for his comments in relation to the cowb— comments in relation to the covid vaccine— comments in relation to the covid vaccine ,— comments in relation to the covid vaccine , saying it's the covid vaccine, saying it's the wersb— covid vaccine, saying it's the worst humanitarian disaster sbee— worst humanitarian disaster bbe— worst humanitarian disaster since the holocaust. he has rebeeseb— since the holocaust. he has rebeeseb e— since the holocaust. he has released a statement in which he sews— released a statement in which he sews-bes— released a statement in which he sews-bes beem— released a statement in which he says he's been unfairly says that he's been unfairly breebeb— says that he's been unfairly treated and— says that he's been unfairly treated and that there is a eb— treated and that there is a eb gebg— treated and that there is a cover up going on and that bbere-s— cover up going on and that there's corruption. now, the bub— there's corruption. now, the bbb sbre— there's corruption. now, the be sbbe be— there's corruption. now, the flip side to that, as i'm sure we— flip side to that, as i'm sure we ebb— flip side to that, as i'm sure we can all see— flip side to that, as i'm sure we can all see now, is that some beebbe— we can all see now, is that some beebbe-bbeb— we can all see now, is that some people-that what— we can all see now, is that some people-that what he- we can all see now, is that some people that what he said people say that what he said bbere— people say that what he said bbere bs— people say that what he said there is morally— people say that what he said there is morally unconscionable ,_g.ogg.g- there is morally unconscionable ,_shouldn't have. , that he just shouldn't have eembereb— , that he just shouldn't have compared .the- , that he just shouldn't have compared the holocaust. he compared it to the holocaust. he ebb—wes— compared it to the holocaust. he will—was quoting- will say that he was quoting semebebw— will say that he was quoting somebody saying, here somebody else saying, and here we-up_ somebody else saying, and here we-eb b— somebody else saying, and here we-eb in ms— somebody else saying, and here we up in this particular we end up in this particular rbgbb— we end up in this particular mess right now.— we end up in this particular mess right now. but i wanted to deer— mess right now. but i wanted to beber—gews- mess right now. but i wanted to beber—gews ere- defer to what you guys are sewmg— defer to what you guys are sewbg em— defer to what you guys are saying on this,— defer to what you guys are saying on this, because i'm being— saying on this, because i'm finding fascinating in the finding it fascinating in the bber— inbox at the moment. vaiews@gbnews.uk. i'm not going to vaiews@gbnews.uk. i'm not going be reed— vaiews@gbnews.uk. i'm not going be reeb mes— vaiews@gbnews.uk. i'm not going to read names-on— vaiews@gbnews.uk. i'm not going to read names on this to read names out on this beese— to read names out on this beeeese-eb- to read names out on this because-of the- to read names out on this because of the stuff is because some of the stuff is brebbw— because some of the stuff is pretty personal.— because some of the stuff is pretty personal. this pretty personal. so this individual— pretty personal. so this individual is individual says, my granny is 101 individual says, my granny is tor-sbre— individual says, my granny is 101-still alive,- individual says, my granny is 101-still alive, is- 101 and is still alive, is a bebeeeesb— 101 and is still alive, is a holocaust survivor and she is meb— holocaust survivor and she is not offended— holocaust survivor and she is not offended by— holocaust survivor and she is not offended by what andrew brbbgem— not offended by what andrew brbbgem-se— not offended by what andrew bridgen-so why- not offended by what andrew bridgen so why is anyone bridgen said. so why is anyone ebse— bridgen said. so why is anyone else-individual- bridgen said. so why is anyone else individual goes else? this individual also goes on else? this individual also goes emlsew— else? this individual also goes emlsew bbeb— else? this individual also goes onlsay that they— else? this individual also goes on say that they or claim on to say that they are or claim bbeb— on to say that they are or claim bbeb-ere— on to say that they are or claim bbeb-ere e— on to say that they are or claim that-are a cowo- on to say that they are or claim that are a covid vaccine that they are a covid vaccine webbm. — that they are a covid vaccine webbm. .besb— that they are a covid vaccine victim. .last two - that they are a covid vaccine victim. last two years of victim. the last two years of bbeb— victim. the last two years of bbeb bbe— victim. the last two years of their life have—
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victim. the last two years of their life have been hell and mew-we— their life have been hell and bbew-we beem— their life have been hell and they've been ignored gaslit they've been ignored and gaslit by _ professionals. l by the medical professionals. andrew— by the medical professionals. andrew supporting andrew is the mp supporting the warms.— andrew is the mp supporting the warms—sbre- andrew is the mp supporting the victims._side of. victims. so that's that side of it, victims. so that's that side of tube— victims. so that's that side of bb-bb a— victims. so that's that side of bb-bb a beb— victims. so that's that side of it,-it? a lot of- victims. so that's that side of it, it? a lot of people it, isn't it? a lot of people beet— it, isn't it? a lot of people beeb es— it, isn't it? a lot of people feel as though _ it, isn't it? a lot of people feel as though people, because it-unfashionable- feel as though people, because it unfashionable or people it was unfashionable or people erese-reb— it was unfashionable or people were-seereb-er- it was unfashionable or people were scared or people were very scared of it or people ebb-b— were very scared of it or people bent-be— were very scared of it or people didn't-to raise— were very scared of it or people didn't to raise issues with didn't want to raise issues with the coronavirus_ didn't want to raise issues with the coronavirus vaccine for fear of the coronavirus vaccine for fear eb-bbe— the coronavirus vaccine for fear eb-bbe e— the coronavirus vaccine for fear eb-bbe e remb- the coronavirus vaccine for fear of like a crank, that of seeming like a crank, that mew— of seeming like a crank, that mew-b.— of seeming like a crank, that mew-bb- amb- of seeming like a crank, that they it. and andrew they didn't do it. and andrew brbbgem— they didn't do it. and andrew brbbgem ws— they didn't do it. and andrew bridgen was one— they didn't do it. and andrew bridgen was one of the people wbe— bridgen was one of the people wbe-emb— bridgen was one of the people wbe-ebb mew— bridgen was one of the people who-and now he's- who did, and now he's potentially— who did, and now he's potentially for that with who did, and now he's potjob ally for that with who did, and now he's- potjob ory-for that with who did, and now he's potjob or certainly that with who did, and now he's potjob or certainly hisit with his job or certainly his membership- his job or certainly his membership the conservative membership of the conservative berbw. —berei party. there's another one here emb— party. there's another one here eme bbbs— party. there's another one here eme bbbs bs— party. there's another one here and this is this— party. there's another one here and this is this is— party. there's another one here and this is this is another one bere— and this is this is another one bere emeb— and this is this is another one here which says— and this is this is another one here which says nobody else was bebbbg— here which says nobody else was bebbbg ebeeb— here which says nobody else was talking about this— here which says nobody else was talking about this particular eberb— talking about this particular issue, apart from andrew bridgen , be— issue, apart from andrew bridgen , be-bbbmb— issue, apart from andrew bridgen , do .think that— issue, apart from andrew bridgen , do think that main , do you think that the main bbe— , do you think that the main issue, the main— , do you think that the main issue, the main issue is not so mem— issue, the main issue is not so meeb bbeb— issue, the main issue is not so much that andrew— issue, the main issue is not so much that andrew bridgen was bbgbbgbbmg— much that andrew bridgen was bbgbrbbemg— much that andrew bridgen was highithe coronavirus vaccine. it with the coronavirus vaccine. it is mewbe— with the coronavirus vaccine. it is mewbe mere— with the coronavirus vaccine. it is maybe more that he used the were— is maybe more that he used the word holocaust.— is maybe more that he used the word holocaust. i— is maybe more that he used the word holocaust. i suspect that was more of the— word holocaust. i suspect that was more of the shock and awe wbem— was more of the shock and awe wbem beebbe— was more of the shock and awe when people saw— was more of the shock and awe when people saw that message bbbbebw— when people saw that message bbbbebw er— when people saw that message initially or heard— when people saw that message initially or heard him talk bbbbebbw— initially or heard him talk bbbbebw .— initially or heard him talk initially . let— initially or heard him talk initially . let me know what you initially. let me know what you bbbb— initially. let me know what you bbbb. bbe— initially. let me know what you think. the other— initially. let me know what you think. the other big topic for us think. the other big topic for es bebew— think. the other big topic for es beeew emb— think. the other big topic for us today and again, we are ewebbbg— us today and again, we are ewebbbg ber— us today and again, we are awaiting for an— us today and again, we are awaiting for an individual who's just awaiting for an individual who's resb—bbsbl just landed back on that first bbgbb— just landed back on that first bbgbb-brem —
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just landed back on that first flight from sudan . so these flight back from sudan. so these are flight back from sudan. so these ere—be- flight back from sudan. so these ere—wberewei are british citizens who we have eweeeebeb— are british citizens who we have evacuated -sudan - are british citizens who we have evacuated sudan in light of evacuated from sudan in light of the evacuated from sudan in light of bbe eembbeb— evacuated from sudan in light of the conflict that's— evacuated from sudan in light of the conflict that's taking place bbere. —be - the conflict that's taking place there._to chat. the conflict that's taking place there. _to chat toi there. we're hoping to chat to semeeee-tsb- there. we're hoping to chat to someone _just got- there. we're hoping to chat to someone just got off that someone who's just got off that bbeme. — someone who's just got off that bbeme. as— someone who's just got off that bbeme. as wee— someone who's just got off that plane. as you can— someone who's just got off that plane. as you can imagine, mew-re— plane. as you can imagine, bbew-relbbb— plane. as you can imagine, they'relbit busy- plane. as you can imagine, they're bit busy at they're a bit busy at the mbebe. — they're a bit busy at the minute. they've just been reeebrbebeb— repatriated. but i was broadening- repatriated. but i was broadening want to broadening this out. i want to brew— broadening this out. i want to bee-er— broadening this out. i want to bee-er meb- broadening this out. i want to know-or not you- broadening this out. i want to know or not you think know whether or not you think bbeb—mere- know whether or not you think that—moral duty- know whether or not you think that moral duty to that we have a moral duty to gbe— that we have a moral duty to gbe rebege— that we have a moral duty to gbe rebege be— that we have a moral duty to give refuge to ordinary people brem— give refuge to ordinary people brem-be— give refuge to ordinary people from _so when - give refuge to ordinary people from _so when we - give refuge to ordinary people from so when we pulled from sudan. so when we pulled out from sudan. so when we pulled eeb eb— from sudan. so when we pulled out of afghanistan— from sudan. so when we pulled out of afghanistan , when people out of afghanistan, when people mebe— out of afghanistan, when people mebe bbe— out of afghanistan, when people made the case— out of afghanistan, when people made the case that we had a mere— made the case that we had a mereb eebw— made the case that we had a moral duty because we invaded bbeb— moral duty because we invaded bbeb-emb— moral duty because we invaded bbeb-ebb we— moral duty because we invaded that-and we were- that country and we were responsible— responsible for some of the emgemg— responsible for some of the emgebg-bbeb- responsible for some of the ongoing that took place ongoing mess that took place bbere— ongoing mess that took place bbere-bbe— ongoing mess that took place there the evacuation of there and the evacuation of beepe— there and the evacuation of. people,_etcetera. people, interpreters, etcetera. bbrebe— people, interpreters, etcetera. bbrebe em— people, interpreters, etcetera. ukraine an okay.— people, interpreters, etcetera. ukraine an okay. people were being— ukraine an okay. people were beebbg eb— ukraine an okay. people were looking at what— ukraine an okay. people were looking at what was going on bbere— looking at what was going on bbere emb— looking at what was going on there and saying, good grief, vou— there and saying, good grief, wee knew,— there and saying, good grief, you know, putin's just rolled bbe— you know, putin's just rolled bbe bembs— you know, putin's just rolled the tanks in.— you know, putin's just rolled the tanks in. we— you know, putin's just rolled the tanks in. we have a moral ebbgebbem— the tanks in. we have a moral ebbgebbem be— the tanks in. we have a moral obligation to ukrainians sbreebs— obligation to ukrainians citizens, least because citizens, not least because we beb— citizens, not least because we bee-betting- citizens, not least because we had _telling them. citizens, not least because we had telling them to had a part in telling them to get— had a part in telling them to geb rre— had a part in telling them to geb rbb eb— had a part in telling them to get rid of nuclear weapons, emeb— get rid of nuclear weapons, wbbb-me- get rid of nuclear weapons, which-no small. get rid of nuclear weapons,- which-no small part which i think in no small part did which i think in no small part ebb-beee— which i think in no small part ebb-beee be— which i think in no small part did lead to vladimir putin did also lead to vladimir putin going— did also lead to vladimir putin gebg b.— did also lead to vladimir putin gebg be. se— did also lead to vladimir putin gebg be. be wee— did also lead to vladimir putin going in. so you can look at bbese— going in. so you can look at bbese bbbgs— going in. so you can look at those things and— going in. so you can look at those things and maybe we've those things and go, maybe we've got those things and go, maybe we've geb-ebbgebbem— those things and go, maybe we've got obligation there. got a moral obligation there. swrbe— got a moral obligation there. swrbe-bre— got a moral obligation there. syria we decided to not syria as well. we decided to not beemeb— syria as well. we decided to not launch—didn't- syria as well. we decided to not launch—didn't we?i launch in airstrikes, didn't we? amb— launch in airstrikes, didn't we? ame-eeem,- launch in airstrikes, didn't we? and-course, what- and then, of course, what bebbemeb— and then, of course, what happened there, we said, well,
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webb— happened there, we said, well, we'll humanitarian we'll take into humanitarian bbsesber—eb- we'll take into humanitarian disaster—of not. disaster as a result of not going— disaster as a result of not gebg emb— disaster as a result of not going and choosing to get bwebeb— going and choosing to get involved massively militarily in seeem— involved massively militarily in seem—wee- involved massively militarily in. sudan._you think sudan. the same or do you think we-e— sudan. the same or do you think we-e mereb— sudan. the same or do you think we a moral obligation to we have a moral obligation to get we have a moral obligation to geb estee— we have a moral obligation to get aside from _ we have a moral obligation to get aside from ordinary british sbreebs— get aside from ordinary british ebbbems-tesb- get aside from ordinary british citizens-just the- citizens out there, just the beebbe— citizens out there, just the beebbe-b- citizens out there, just the beebbe-b be- citizens out there, just the people ? do we? citizens out there, just the people-? do we? i've people of sudan? do we? and i've been— people of sudan? do we? and i've been esbbg— people of sudan? do we? and i've been esbbg-b— people of sudan? do we? and i've been asking .in the - people of sudan? do we? and i've been asking in the so been asking this in the inbox so far. been asking this in the inbox so bee-be— been asking this in the inbox so bee-be meb.— been asking this in the inbox so far.-do not. this- been asking this in the inbox so far.-do not. this is- far. no, we do not. this is eeeerbbg— far. no, we do not. this is according to— far. no, we do not. this is according to ireland. we sbeebbm-b— according to ireland. we shouldn't only we only shouldn't only we should only bebe— shouldn't only we should only bebelbeebbe— shouldn't only we should only take people who've got take in people who've got a brbbbsb— take in people who've got a british passport. we cannot go on british passport. we cannot go em—beebbe. i on forever taking in people. tbs— on forever taking in people. rb-s-brebbem- on forever taking in people. it's-problem .- on forever taking in people. it's problem . he says it's not our problem. he says bbe— it's not our problem. he says bbe bb— it's not our problem. he says bbe eeb bs— it's not our problem. he says bbe uk is e— it's not our problem. he says the uk is a sponge sucking up ewerwbeew— the uk is a sponge sucking up everybody else's_ the uk is a sponge sucking up everybody else's problems and bees— everybody else's problems and bbere-s e— everybody else's problems and bbere-s e beb— everybody else's problems and there's a lot of— everybody else's problems and there's a lot of this going ebeeb— there's a lot of this going ebeeb eb— there's a lot of this going about at the— there's a lot of this going about at the moment and i just wembe— about at the moment and i just wonder whether— about at the moment and i just wonder whether or— about at the moment and i just wonder whether or not you feel the wonder whether or not you feel bbe sme— wonder whether or not you feel bbe wew. — wonder whether or not you feel the same way. do— wonder whether or not you feel the same way. do you look at wbeb-s— the same way. do you look at was gebg— the same way. do you look at was gebg em— the same way. do you look at what's going on in sudan and bbbb— what's going on in sudan and bbbb bbese— what's going on in sudan and think these desperate think these are desperate beepe— think these are desperate| people—plight think these are desperate- people,_plight and people, they are in plight and we-bebe— people, they are in plight and we _take them- people, they are in plight and we-take them in?- people, they are in plight and. we-take them in?.do we need to take them in? or do you— we need to take them in? or do wee bbmb— we need to take them in? or do wee bbmb-bbe— we need to take them in? or do you think-the uk- we need to take them in? or do you think the uk could well you think that the uk could well end you think that the uk could well emb eb— you think that the uk could well end up becoming,— you think that the uk could well end up becoming, as alan says, a sbemge— end up becoming, as alan says, a sbemge ber— end up becoming, as alan says, a sponge for soaking— end up becoming, as alan says, a sponge for soaking up the werbb-s— sponge for soaking up the. world's—where sponge for soaking up the- world's_where do world's problems? and where do we-bbe— world's problems? and where do we-bbe ber— world's problems? and where do we-line for that?- we draw the line for that? beeeese— we draw the line for that? because unfortunately there are we draw the line for that? brlothe unfortunately there are we draw the line for that? brlot ofb unfortunately there are we draw the line for that? brlot of countriesately there are we draw the line for that? brlot of countries and there are we draw the line for that? brlot of countries and a�*iere are we draw the line for that? brlot of countries and a lots are we draw the line for that? brlot of countries and a lot of'e a lot of countries and a lot of beebbe— a lot of countries and a lot of beebbe m— a lot of countries and a lot of people in distress.— a lot of countries and a lot of people in distress. so the two big ees— people in distress. so the two big emesesl— people in distress. so the two big ones us today, andrew big ones for us today, andrew brbbgem— big ones for us today, andrew brbbgem-bbeb- big ones for us today, andrew bridgen-that the. bridgen is it right that the berw— bridgen is it right that the berw berbw— bridgen is it right that the tory party have expelled him? amb— tory party have expelled him? wmb-be— tory party have expelled him? amb-be wee— tory party have expelled him? and-do you think- tory party have expelled him? 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and also do you think we have a mere— and also do you think we have a mereb bebw— and also do you think we have a mereb dutve em— and also do you think we have a moral duty, an obligation to bebe— moral duty, an obligation to bebe b— moral duty, an obligation to take in-british- moral duty, an obligation to take in british citizens so take in non british citizens so resb—brem- take in non british citizens so- just_from sudan? just ordinary people from sudan? vaiews@gbnews.uk just ordinary people from sudan? vaiews@gbrthough, between just ordinary people from sudan? vai and ngrthough, between just ordinary people from sudan? vai and 4:00 hough, between just ordinary people from sudan? vai and 4:00 asigh, between just ordinary people from sudan? vai and 4:00 as well)etween just ordinary people from sudan? vai and 4:00 as well because now and 4:00 as well because ebber— now and 4:00 as well because ebber e— now and 4:00 as well because after a shocking— now and 4:00 as well because after a shocking report into the ber— after a shocking report into the be eb— after a shocking report into the number of sexual— after a shocking report into the number of sexual assaults in besbbbebs— number of sexual assaults in hospitals,-ask- number of sexual assaults in hospitals, ask nurse hospitals, i will ask a nurse was as she thinks that staff sbeebb— was as she thinks that staff sbeebb-bebw- was as she thinks that staff should body cameras. should wear body cameras. can you— should wear body cameras. can wee bmegbe— should wear body cameras. can wee bmegbe-e- should wear body cameras. can you imagine a hospital you imagine going to a hospital in weer— you imagine going to a hospital in weer-meebb- you imagine going to a hospital in your need? you're in your hour of need? you're mesb— in your hour of need? you're most vulnerable.— in your hour of need? you're most vulnerable. most most vulnerable. you're most sbresseb— most vulnerable. you're most stressed someone's stressed out and someone's bbmbg— stressed out and someone's filming-whole- stressed out and someone's filming whole time. stressed out and someone's- filming-whole time. i'm filming you the whole time. i'm not filming you the whole time. i'm meb-gebbe— filming you the whole time. i'm meb-gebbe bemew- filming you the whole time. i'm not quite fancy. that not sure i'm quite fancy. that emb— not sure i'm quite fancy. that ebb-bembw- not sure i'm quite fancy. that and family fanatic will and a royal family fanatic will gbe— and a royal family fanatic will gbe ber— and a royal family fanatic will give her reaction— and a royal family fanatic will give her reaction to the news bbeb— give her reaction to the news bbeb seme— give her reaction to the news that some councils are refusing to that some councils are refusing be beb— that some councils are refusing be beb beebbe— that some councils are refusing to let people celebrate next weeks— to let people celebrate next week's coronation on coronation bib-ews.— week's coronation on coronation bbeb-ews. beb— week's coronation on coronation killjoys. but right— week's coronation on coronation killjoys. but right now it's weer— killjoys. but right now it's your headlines— killjoys. but right now it's your headlines with tatiana . your headlines with tatiana. bebrbb— your headlines with tatiana. patrick thank— your headlines with tatiana. patrick thank you and good ebbemeem. — patrick thank you and good afternoon. this— patrick thank you and good afternoon. this is- patrick thank you and good afternoon. " afternoon. this is the latest from the newsroom. the first flight evacuating british nationals out of sudan has landed in the uk. it's unclear how many were on board the aircraft which arrived at stansted airport within the last hour or so. more than 300 people
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have been evacuated from sudan. so far. it's estimated around 4000 britons were stuck in the country. hundreds of people have been killed since fighting between military factions broke out more than two weeks ago. the prime minister has warned of a critical 24 hours ahead as the military races to rescue people before the 72 hour ceasefire ends. before the 72 hour ceasefire ends . mp andrew bridgen has been ends. mp andrew bridgen has been expelled from the conservative party. it's after he compared covid 19 vaccines to the holocaust and was found to have breached lobbying rules . the breached lobbying rules. the north—west leicestershire mp was expelled on the 12th of april following the recommendation of a disciplinary panel and was given 28 days to appeal. he said he'll stand again at the next election whilst hitting out at what he called corruption , what he called corruption, collusion cover ups in the collusion and cover ups in the political system . the met police political system. the met police commissioner has admitted the force hasn't reached its recruitment targets, saying there are 1000 officers light
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more than 20,000 new police officers have been hired in england and wales. but britain's biggest police force missed its individual target. the ongoing recruitment programme is expected to cost £185 recruitment programme is expected to cost £18.5 billion over the next ten years. the prime minister earlier said that although progress is good, more work is needed. meanwhile, mr rowley admits the met shortcoming is partly down to the force's current reputation and a man has been jailed for assisting nine year old olivia pratt—korbel bell's murderer, 41 year old paul russell pleaded guilty to driving thomas cashman after he'd fatally shot the nine year old last summer. he told police in the days after olivia's death that cashman was responsible for her murder, claiming he wasn't aware of this when he helped him. he's been sentenced to 22 months in prison . tv online dab+ radio and on tunein . this is.
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. tv online dab+ radio and on tunein . this is . gb news direct tunein. this is. gb news direct bullion sponsors the finance report on gb news for gold and silver investment . at here's silver investment. at here's a quick snapshot of today's markets. the pound will buy you 1.24, eight, $3 and ,1.1281. the price of gold is £1,602.95 per ounce, and the ftse 100 is at 7828 points. direct bullion sponsors the finance report on gb news for gold and silver investment . gb news for gold and silver investment. well, gb news for gold and silver investment . well, i don't know investment. well, i don't know ebeeb— investment. well, i don't know ebeeb your— investment. well, i don't know ebeeb your beb— investment. well, i don't know about you, but i— investment. well, i don't know about you, but i can't- well, i don't know about you, but i can't wait for mewb— about you, but i can't wait for mexb weeks— about you, but i can't wait for next week's coronation. but bbeb-s— next week's coronation. but bbeb-s beb— next week's coronation. but that's not the— next week's coronation. but that's not the case everywhere, because councils across the uk have been branded killjoys and rightly so . this just sums up rightly so. this just sums up this just sums up the utter jobsworths that sometimes occupy our council buildings. so they are refusing to let people
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celebrate the big day. the coronation of king charles will take place on saturday, may the sixth, but councils have refused permission for some street parties and north somerset council won't even let people have a picnic in their local park unless they fill out a risk assessment form . it has to be assessment form. it has to be and i am not joking now people and i am not joking now people and approved picnic on the day of the coronation. i good grief get a life. just get a life. i'm joined now by fm joinedflnow by royal fm joinedflnowdby royal family i'm joined now by royal family bemebe— i'm joined now by royal family bemebb emb— i'm joined now by royal family fanatic and all— i'm joined now by royal family fanatic and all round legend. tbs— fanatic and all round legend. rb-s ambe— fanatic and all round legend. it's anita atkinson. _ fanatic and all round legend. it's anita atkinson. yes.- fanatic and all round legend. it's anita atkinson. yes. okay now, anita, i don't know about you , but i don't think anyone you, but i don't think anyone would get in the way. no council official with a high vis jacket and a clipboard is going to get in the way of my coronation picnic. i mean, do you think this is just jobsworths ? i i've this is just jobsworths? i i've got no idea what it is , patrick. got no idea what it is, patrick. because in county durham, we bem-b— because in county durham, we bem-b beve— because in county durham, we don't have that— because in county durham, we don't have that problem at all. vee— don't have that problem at all. bee keep— don't have that problem at all. you keep laughing— don't have that problem at all. you keep laughing every- don't have that problem at all. you keep laughing every time. come on. this program . i just come on. this program. i just beee— come on. this program. i just bere wee. — come on. this program. i just bere wee. r— come on. this program. i just bere we r resb—
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come on. this program. i just think. love you. i just think. i just think you're great. i think you should have your own show here. i don't know what it is. bbere-s— i don't know what it is. bbere-s resb— i don't know what it is. there's just something so charming about you. but look, you're. you're obviously, you know, be honest with you. know, let's be honest with you. absolutely right? do absolutely mad for it, right? do you think that everyone, everyone should just allowed everyone should just be allowed to celebrate the coronation in whatever want ? whatever way they want? everyone allowed to whatever way they want? - everyone i allowed to celebrate everyone is allowed to celebrate bbeb—b— everyone is allowed to celebrate bbeb—b-wew- everyone is allowed to celebrate their—in-way theyj their coronation in any way they wemb— their coronation in any way they wemb . — their coronation in any way they wemb . beb— their coronation in any way they want. but think— their coronation in any way they want . but think what- their coronation in any way they want. their coronation in any way they want . want. but think what they have to mindful of is any safety to be mindful of is any safety issues that's brought up by councils . but i can tell you councils. but i can tell you that durham county council are allowing anyone anywhere to close a road and they even offer to lend them the road closed signs. there's no problem. why can't that not happen in any other local authority? i don't know. yeah. and it's such a special thing as well. it's the kind of special thing as well. it's the bbb eb bbbg— special thing as well. it's the kind of thing that— t g it's the kind of thing that especially ebbbrem— kind of thing that especially children in,— kind of thing that especially children in, i— kind of thing that especially children in, i think need to remember. and— children in, i think need to remember. and one way to mark bbeb— remember. and one way to mark bbeb weebb— remember. and one way to mark bbeb weebb be— remember. and one way to mark that would be to— remember. and one way to mark that would be to have a local sbreeb— that would be to have a local sbreeb bere.— that would be to have a local sbreeb berbw. bb— that would be to have a local street party. it would be to mewbe— street party. it would be to mewbe ge— street party. it would be to mewbe ge be— street party. it would be to maybe go to the park with your berembs— maybe go to the park with your berembs emb— maybe go to the park with your parents and have— maybe go to the park with your parents and have a nice picnic and,— parents and have a nice picnic emb, wee— parents and have a nice picnic emb, wee knew,— parents and have a nice picnic and, you know, have a bit of a
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berbeeee— and, you know, have a bit of a berbeeee er— and, you know, have a bit of a barbecue or whatever you're being.— barbecue or whatever you're being amb— barbecue or whatever you're being amb r— barbecue or whatever you're doing. and i just find it a bit of doing. and i just find it a bit eb e— doing. and i just find it a bit eb e sbeme— doing. and i just find it a bit of a shame at— doing. and i just find it a bit of a shame at nato that some beebbe— of a shame at nato that some beebbe mbgbb— of a shame at nato that some beebbe mbgbb be— of a shame at nato that some people might be banned from being— people might be banned from being-webb— people might be banned from doing well, they're not doing that. well, they're not bemeb— doing that. well, they're not banned from _ doing that. well, they're not banned from doing it because mew— banned from doing it because mew-bb— banned from doing it because mew-b bb— banned from doing it because mew-b b we- banned from doing it because they it if we want. we; they can do it if we want. we ebb— they can do it if we want. we ebb-bbe— they can do it if we want. we still-live in— they can do it if we want. we still-live in a— they can do it if we want. we still-live in a free- they can do it if we want. we still live in a free country. still do live in a free country. but like i said, if there's any safety you don't safety issues anyway, you don't have a barbecue. what's have to have a barbecue. what's the matter with an afternoon tea? and any case, if you tea? and in any case, if you live kent or wherever they live in kent or wherever they are, you. just hop on are, they ban you. just hop on the up here to the train and come up here to county every road is county durham. every road is available to you. it's very true. available to you. it's very bree. .bmew, — available to you. it's very true. - know, they - it's very true. know, they talk available to you. it's very- true.-know, they talk about true. you know, they talk about bewebbg— true. you know, they talk about levelling _they? - true. you know, they talk about levelling they? maybe levelling up, don't they? maybe bbeb-s— levelling up, don't they? maybe bbeb-s bbe— levelling up, don't they? maybe bbeb-s bbe-be— levelling up, don't they? maybe that's the .to do _ levelling up, don't they? maybe that's the to do get that's the way to do it. you get beebbe— that's the way to do it. you get beebbe brem — that's the way to do it. you get people from the— that's the way to do it. you get people from the home counties to eb— people from the home counties to we be— people from the home counties to come up to where— people from the home counties to come up to where you are there in ceembw— come up to where you are there in county durham.— come up to where you are there in county durham. the one brebbem — in county durham. the one brebbem .bwe— in county durham. the one problem i've with all problem that i've got with all of problem that i've got with all eb-bbeegb— problem that i've got with all of-though, anita,- problem that i've got with all of though, anita, that of this, though, anita, is that wee-re— of this, though, anita, is that wee-re-gebg— of this, though, anita, is that you're going there to you're not going to be there to greeb— you're not going to be there to greeb-ere— you're not going to be there to greeb-ere you?- you're not going to be there to greet are you? because greet them, are you? because resb— greet them, are you? because resb-r— greet them, are you? because resb-r seeke— greet them, are you? because last-i spoke to- greet them, are you? because last i spoke to you, you last time i spoke to you, you beb— last time i spoke to you, you beb wee— last time i spoke to you, you had you already— last time i spoke to you, you had you already had your bag beebeb— had you already had your bag beebeb ber— had you already had your bag packed for coronation talk packed for the coronation talk us packed for the coronation talk es-bb.— packed for the coronation talk es-b. bbeb-s- packed for the coronation talk us it. what's going us through it. what's going on? web.— us through it. what's going on? webblbe— us through it. what's going on? webblbe .— us through it. what's going on? webblbe . bre— us through it. what's going on? well,ldo . i've still— us through it. what's going on? well,ldo . i've still got- us through it. what's going on? well,ldo . i've still got my- well, i do. i've still got my bag packed for the coronation and i've got me double what i'm taking as well. um, and i am going. and i am going to camp on
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the mall. i don't care what happens, and i don't care which council official going to try council official is going to try and stop us. they're going to have to cut us away. but that's exactly i'm doing. i'm exactly what i'm doing. i'm going down on this saturday. i've a couple of days i've only got a couple of days to i'll be there for ten to go and i'll be there for ten days and i'll be walking the streets, sleeping in the streets and whatever i want. is and doing whatever i want. it is and doing whatever i want. it is a country. patrick we need a free country. patrick we need we need more . anita's- a free country. patrick we need we need more . anita's in- rt.ri:r. t we need we need more . anita's in this we need more. anita's in this werbb— we need more. anita's in this werbb. .— we need more. anita's in this werbb. r em— we need more. anita's in this world. i am telling you, you are ewerwbbbg— world. i am telling you, you are everything that's— world. i am telling you, you are everything that's good about bbbs— everything that's good about bbbs meber.— everything that's good about this nation. anita. why do you care so much?— this nation. anita. why do you care so much? then? why are you going— care so much? then? why are you gebg be— care so much? then? why are you gebg be ge— care so much? then? why are you gebg be ge eeb— care so much? then? why are you gebg be ge eeb eb— care so much? then? why are you going to go out of your way and sbebb— going to go out of your way and sbemb e— going to go out of your way and sbemb e r— going to go out of your way and spend a i think— going to go out of your way and spend a i think it's— going to go out of your way and spend a i think it's reasonable to assume the— spend a i think it's reasonable to assume the longest amount of bime— to assume the longest amount of bme eb— to assume the longest amount of bme eb emwee— to assume the longest amount of time of anyone in— to assume the longest amount of time of anyone in the country eembbg— time of anyone in the country eembbg-brebb— time of anyone in the country camping-wait for- time of anyone in the country camping wait for the camping out. wait for the coronation— camping out. wait for the coronation _ camping out. wait for the coronation no,- camping out. wait for the coronation \rr:::r camping out. wait for the coronation brt:r camping out. wait for the coronation \rt:r camping out. wait for the coronation \rrt:r coronation no, no, i'm not the longest one. well, in the country, maybe . but i've got country, maybe. but i've got a friend from america who's coming down to london even before i am. she's coming all the way from america. and today i've had a couple from australia visit me here in my home. and like, people are coming from all over
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the world to do this. and they staying a lot longer than ten days. and what i'm doing. but why is it so? i am a monarchist. patrick this is a this is the people's celebration . this is people's celebration. this is the people's party. go out and have your picnic if you want. come london and stay in come down to london and stay in the mile if you want. this is we. this is. i've waited 66 years for this man , and i'm not years for this man, and i'm not missing a single moment. years for this man, and i'm not missing a single moment . and i missing a single moment. and i am doing what i want. i'm going to enjoy myself . oh, fantastic. to enjoy myself. oh, fantastic. amb— to enjoy myself. oh, fantastic. amb ambe— to enjoy myself. oh, fantastic. amb ambe ,— to enjoy myself. oh, fantastic. and anita , i'm— to enjoy myself. oh, fantastic. and anita , i'm hoping- oh, fantastic. and anita , i'm hoping i'm hoping and anita, i'm hoping i'm hoping to and anita, i'm hoping i'm hoping be be— and anita, i'm hoping i'm hoping be be e— and anita, i'm hoping i'm hoping be be e berb— and anita, i'm hoping i'm hoping be be e berb eb— and anita, i'm hoping i'm hoping to be a part of gb— and anita, i'm hoping i'm hoping to be a part of gb news coronation— to be a part of gb news coronation coverage. okay. embess— coronation coverage. okay. unless there's— coronation coverage. okay. unless there's something someone's not- unless there's something someone's not telling me, bbere-s— someone's not telling me, bbere-s gebg— someone's not telling me, there's going to change in the mewb— there's going to change in the mexb bew— there's going to change in the mexb bew bews. — there's going to change in the next few days. so— there's going to change in the next few days. so hopefully not. but next few days. so hopefully not. beblweebb— next few days. so hopefully not. buthould love— next few days. so hopefully not. buthould love if— next few days. so hopefully not. but would love if it's all but i would love if it's all rbgbb— but i would love if it's all rbgbb be— but i would love if it's all rbgbb be bew— but i would love if it's all right to pay you a little visit at right to pay you a little visit eb seme— right to pay you a little visit at some point.— right to pay you a little visit at some point. and maybe we can. we at some point. and maybe we can. be em— at some point. and maybe we can. be be— at some point. and maybe we can. be be e— at some point. and maybe we can. be be e bb— at some point. and maybe we can. we can do a bit of— at some point. and maybe we can. we can do a bit of a— at some point. and maybe we can. we can do a bit of a show from bbe— we can do a bit of a show from bbe brem— we can do a bit of a show from the from from _ we can do a bit of a show from the from from anita's tent. t/rtner the from from anita's tent. yes . bb— the from from anita's tent. yes . rb wee— the from from anita's tent. yes . rb wee meeb— the from from anita's tent. yes . rb wee meeb e— the from from anita's tent. t/rtner if you need a course. patrick . if you need a course. patrick rm— . if you need a course. patrick bm weer— . if you need a course. patrick r-m weer berserb— . if you need a course. patrick r-m weer bersem — if you need a course. patrick i'm your person. like, i think everyone agrees, anita, that i do. so thank you very much. and look . yes. keep fighting the
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look. yes. keep fighting the good fight nato it'd be great to see you and i look forward to i look forward to seeing you. and so take care. all right. safe travels getting down, aaron. i'll you the next few i'll see you in the next few days the sounds things, days by the sounds of things, anita atkinson. round anita atkinson. all round legend. sorry. she's legend. a fantastic sorry. she's managed make me laugh much managed to make me laugh so much there i started crying. there that i started crying. actually, more. anita in actually, we need more. anita in this world. well, would not this world. well, you would not like be, would you? council like to be, would you? a council official that tells anita that she's not able her she's not able to have her coronation picnic. sorry, coronation picnic. you. sorry, anita, can't have that anita, you can't have that quiche think quiche quiche here. i think that quiche would way somewhere would find its way somewhere that doesn't shine very, that the sun doesn't shine very, very quickly, and rightly so. so, load this. so, look, get a load of this. the local authorities in wiltshire, the london of wiltshire, the london borough of eaung wiltshire, the london borough of ealing inform ealing and warwick, will inform strict restrictions on holding barbecues in public parks. now, part of we can understand the barbecues in public parks thing. people leave a mess. there is also quite a serious fire hazard, we live hazard, although we don't live in but there we in the bush dup. but there we go. edinburgh city council have asked those planning street parties not to hang bunting across any public roads open to traffic again , i can just about
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traffic again, i can just about see the logic behind that, but i am having a look at north somerset council. if anyone is watching from north somerset council now, you know, i really hope this isn't true. and if it isn't true, then you've got to get in touch with us and correct the record quickly on this, because announced will because it's announced it will require form a require a nine page form and a risk assessment before revellers are tuck in to their are able to tuck in to their coronation picnics with neighbours. you know, they're only allow apparently only going to allow apparently this reports , this is according to reports, approved picnics across their 500 acres of parks because the parks were for everyone's enjoyment and approved picnics. it's a coronation ian good grief. i mean, seriously , get a grief. i mean, seriously, get a life. your clipboard warriors gb views or gbnews.uk. i'm going to delve back into the inbox now, though, because like i said, i've got a lot coming up. we are, i believe, anyway, a matter of minutes away from talking live on this show to andrew bridgen. bridgen, case bridgen. andrew bridgen, in case you're us, has been you're just joining us, has been booted of the conservative booted out of the conservative party over his party primarily over his comments covid comments about the vaccine covid vaccine , and him saying that it
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vaccine, and him saying that it was a humanitarian disaster , one was a humanitarian disaster, one of the biggest since the holocaust . so again, a lot of holocaust. so again, a lot of people i know are getting in touch. so he didn't compare it touch. so he didn't compare it to holocaust. i understand to the holocaust. i understand that. we are aware that. okay. but we all are aware of the optics of that that, of the optics of that and that, i think, was really one of the things that people things that made people initially hugely initially wince and hugely distanced themselves him. distanced themselves from him. andrew a andrew bridgen has released a statement he says that statement in which he says that he's been unfairly treated, that there corruption there is a corruption and a cover on here. and he cover up going on here. and he is desperately trying to expose what appears to what but nobody else appears to be willing to do, in his view, which is to highlight plight which is to highlight the plight of a negative of people who had a negative vaccine injured, isn't it vaccine injured, isn't it vaccine injured, isn't it vaccine injured, and people who sadly lost their lives as a result the coronavirus result of the coronavirus vaccine . the people on the other vaccine. the people on the other side this will say that he side of this will say that he sounds a like a crank and sounds a bit like a crank and that there are , you know, that there are, you know, conspiracy theorists out there. he is adamant, absolutely adamant, as he no doubt will come on and talk about that. he's perfectly well within his rights to say it. it's a freedom of speech issue as much as anything. and talking a anything. and he's talking for a marginalised of people. marginalised group of people. i've be honest with you.
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i've got to be honest with you. a huge amount of love for andrew bridgen in inbox. bridgen in the inbox. vaiews@gbnews.uk. andrew bridgen one the last bridgen was one of the last voices of reason in the so—called conservative party so—called old conservative party losing bad. losing dominic raab was bad. this is even worse. we are doomed. and that is from sue in felix stow. i'm a conservative party member, says pauline. but following britain's expulsion and raab's resignation, unsupported by rishi sunak, i'm handing in my membership card. i've had enough from pauline . so i've had enough from pauline. so there's a lot of that going about. look, if you've got a different view and you think that what andrew bridgen said was completely unconscionable, then get in touch. vaiews@gbnews.uk we can put that to him live here on this show, can't we? now? moving on, nurses could wear body cameras after a shocking report into the number of rapes and sexual assaults in hospitals. so that's the safety side of it. the other bit of it, though, is if you're there, you know, in massive plight and physical ill health and a nurse turns up with a body camera on, is that what you
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really want? are you worried about that? is that against your human rights? i'm patrick christys gb news, christys is on gb news, britain's news
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the people's. channel i the people's. channel r ebber— the people's. channel i often wonder if government mbbsbers— i often wonder if government mbbsbers ere— i often wonder if government ministers are looking at this sbew— ministers are looking at this sbew emb— ministers are looking at this show and listening to it, and it ebbeers— show and listening to it, and it ebbeers mewbe— show and listening to it, and it appears maybe they are just mewbe— appears maybe they are just mewbe mew— appears maybe they are just maybe they are,— appears maybe they are just maybe they are, because in the resb— maybe they are, because in the besb bew— maybe they are, because in the last few moments— maybe they are, because in the last few moments i've got some breebbg— last few moments i've got some breebbg mews— last few moments i've got some breaking news to _ last few moments i've got some breaking news to bring you on. one— breaking news to bring you on. one eb— breaking news to bring you on. one eb er— breaking news to bring you on. one eb bew— breaking news to bring you on. one of our key talking- breaking news to bring you on. one of our key talking points today, i was asking whether or not we have not you think that we have a moral obligation to take in refugees from sudan. so refugees fleeing from sudan. so not citizens. so not just british citizens. so refugees. secretary refugees. the home secretary told braverman in the last few moments just been speaking. moments has just been speaking. let's to say. let's see what she had to say. we no plans to do that. we have no plans to do that. our focus first, first and beremesb:— our focus first, first and foremost, most right now and beerbg— foremost, most right now and beerbg b— foremost, most right now and bearing in mind— foremost, most right now and bearing in mind this is a fast mewmg— bearing in mind this is a fast moving situation— bearing in mind this is a fast moving situation and a complex sbbeebem— moving situation and a complex sbbeebem bs— moving situation and a complex situation is to— moving situation and a complex situation is to support british mebemebs— situation is to support british nationals and— situation is to support british nationals and their dependents . nationals and their dependents. so nationals and their dependents. se bbere— nationals and their dependents. se bbere wee— nationals and their dependents. se bbere wee ge. — nationals and their dependents. so there you go. so— nationals and their dependents. so there you go. so no-
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so there you go. so no additional safe and legal routes, whatever you want to call them, are going to be implemented at this stage by our government for people fleeing sudan.so government for people fleeing sudan. so just british citizens do you think that we should have had a moral obligation to take in refugees so far, the in sudanese refugees so far, the overwhelming consensus is no, we already bit anyway. already do our bit anyway. moving on, nurses could wear body cameras after a report uncovered a shocking number of rapes and sexual assaults in hospitals . so more than 6500 hospitals. so more than 6500 offences took place in less than four years, up to last october. but it got me thinking really thatis but it got me thinking really that is this against the human rights of the patients? i get that they're there supposedly to protect people. i can see the logic behind that. but do you want a nurse rocking up with a body camera on? i'm not sure i would. through some would. let's go through some of the of report. so the findings of this report. so a context. this is from a bit of context. this is from the women's rights network. there were total of 6539 rapes there were a total of 6539 rapes and sexual assaults hospitals and sexual assaults in hospitals between january 2019 and october 20th, 22, 1020. one of those offences took place on hospital
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wards. 265 people were charged , wards. 265 people were charged, which is just 4.1% of the reported crimes . which is just 4.1% of the reported crimes. not all which is just 4.1% of the reported crimes . not all police reported crimes. not all police forces responded to this freedom of information request . so it forces responded to this freedom of information request. so it is kind of a partial finding and the women's rights network wants to point out that these crimes are often underreported . so the are often underreported. so the true figures are probably be much higher, undeniably shocking stats there. i certainly massively was taken aback when i first read that report. i thought, good grief, is this going on in our hospitals. but the idea now that nurses the solution to this is for nurses to wear body cameras at all times, i'm just not sure that's right. how would you feel about that? going to talk now to that? i'm going to talk now to a registered nurse and writer, sarah sarah, great sarah jane palmer. sarah, great to talk to you. thank you very, very much. let's get let's get right then. you think right to it then. do you think that it's right for nurses to wear body cameras at all times ? wear body cameras at all times? um, i think , yeah, there's a um, i think, yeah, there's a strong argument for it because the thing is, what you've got to
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remember is the camera's not always on. it's only on when an bbbemb— always on. it's only on when an bbbemb bs— always on. it's only on when an incident is occurring— bit" it's only on when an incident is occurring and it's ebeebw— incident is occurring and it's ebeebw b— incident is occurring and it's already in use— incident is occurring and it's already in use among community mersbg— already in use among community mersbg beems— already in use among community mersmg beems es— already in use among community nursing teams as well . nursing teams as well. beremebbs— nursing teams as well. paramedics use- nursing teams as well. paramedics use them. obviously, the police do security and hospitals already have them. so i think nurses consider considering risk that's considering the risk that's posed to them when they're with a patient and they have to close the curtains there's no the curtains and there's no staff ward anyway, so you staff on the ward anyway, so you can't get someone just can't get someone to just accompany at all times accompany you or at all times for sorts of procedures for these sorts of procedures with the patient that in in your vulnerability, do need vulnerability, you do need something that as something like that as protection because it acts as a good deterrent. so patients think twice before they act. but it also captures the context of but it also captures the context eb e— but it also captures the context eb e wbebe— but it also captures the context of a whole situation capture wbebber— of a whole situation capture wbebber em— of a whole situation capture whether an assault is occurring or whether an assault is occurring er bb— whether an assault is occurring er b b— whether an assault is occurring er b b rsb-b— whether an assault is occurring or if it isn't occurring. 'r: or if it isn't occurring. and bbe— or if it isn't occurring. and bbe bew— or if it isn't occurring. and bbe bew bbbg— or if it isn't occurring. and the key thing is it also captures if the patient might have or doesn't have insight as well. so have or doesn't have insight as well . so someone's oh, no, well. so someone's oh, no, bbeb-s— well. so someone's oh, no, bbeb-s eb— well. so someone's oh, no, that's all right— well. so someone's oh, no, that's all right. - well. so someone's oh, no, that's all right. i- so someone's oh, no, that's all right . "rt; that's all right. i know you're still with us. don't worry. no, thatis still with us. don't worry. no, that is a really fascinating thing, actually, because, you know, ever as ever i might
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know, as ever as ever i might not always thought of not have always have thought of every single particular solution. i thinking of. solution. i was thinking of. let's say, you know, you're let's just say, you know, you're kind very, old or kind of very, very old or vulnerable individual lying kind of very, very old or vulneonle individual lying kind of very, very old or vulne on le bed vidual lying kind of very, very old or vulne on le bed might lying kind of very, very old or vulneonle bed might beig kind of very, very old or vulneonle bed might be a bit there on a bed might be a bit perturbed by someone with a camera on, but actually, i suppose this threat does go both ways and some people might genuinely feel more comfortable not least potentially the nurses themselves, who i would imagine have to deal with some very difficult characters, don't they ? yeah, absolutely. especially in ? yeah, absolutely. especially b emergemew— 7’ yeah, absolutely. especially in emergency departments. they get in emergency departments. they geb seeb— in emergency departments. they geb seeb e— in emergency departments. they geb seeb e bbgb— in emergency departments. they get such a high rate of people bbeb— get such a high rate of people bbeb beve— get such a high rate of people that have been— get such a high rate of people that have been misusing alcohol and that have been misusing alcohol emb bregs— that have been misusing alcohol emb bregs emb— that have been misusing alcohol and drugs and you— that have been misusing alcohol and drugs and you know, the bever— and drugs and you know, the beweb eb— and drugs and you know, the level of intoxication in so many bebembs— level of intoxication in so many bebembs bs— level of intoxication in so many bebembs bs se— level of intoxication in so many patients is so high— level of intoxication in so many patients is so high that they patients is so hiin that they are patients is so high that they are disinhibited_ patients is so high that they are disinhibited . and you do are disinhibited. and you do meeb— are disinhibited. and you do meeb be— are disinhibited. and you do need to capture— are disinhibited. and you do need to capture the evidence, if any,— need to capture the evidence, if anyr esseebb— need to capture the evidence, if any, assault does— need to capture the evidence, if any, assault does occur. and, you— any, assault does occur. and, wee brew— any, assault does occur. and, wee bmew ,— any, assault does occur. and, wee bmew: bwe— any, assault does occur. and, you know , i've worked with you know, i've worked with i werbeb— you know, i've worked with i worked with— you know, i've worked with i worked with someone actually, wbe— worked with someone actually, wbe ws— worked with someone actually, who was attacked— worked with someone actually, who was attacked by a patient. bbe— who was attacked by a patient. bbe bebebb— who was attacked by a patient. the patient came— who was attacked by a patient. the patient came up— who was attacked by a patient. the patient came up behind him and tried to strangle him and he fell unconscious and it caused a lot of trauma. i think, you knew:— lot of trauma. i think, you knew: bbese—
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i think, you know, these assaults do take brese— know, these assaults do take beese emb— know, these assaults do take beese emb mew— know, these assaults do take place and they need to be eebbereb. — place and they need to be captured. and— place and they need to be captured. and you do deal with all captured. and you do deal with ebb serbs— captured. and you do deal with ebb serbs eb— captured. and you do deal with all sorts of people and you also beve— all sorts of people and you also bewe bebembs— all sorts of people and you also have patients that— all sorts of people and you also have patients that out of have patients that come out of brbsem— have patients that come out of brbsem-se— have patients that come out of brbsem-se bbew— have patients that come out of prison-so they can- have patients that come out of prison so they can have the prison just so they can have the breebmemb— prison just so they can have the breebmemb eb— prison just so they can have the treatment at you— prison just so they can have the treatment at you know, a sbebebbsb— treatment at you know, a specialist centre like at saint beerge-s— specialist centre like at saint george's wherever. george's or wherever. i've seen beebbe—eeb- george's or wherever. i've seen beebbe—eeb eb| people that have come out of brbsem— people that have come out of brbsemlbewe— people that have come out of prison-have their- people that have come out of prison have their treatment prison to have their treatment emb— prison to have their treatment emb-meb— prison to have their treatment and-not allowed- prison to have their treatment and not allowed know and you're not allowed to know wbeb— and you're not allowed to know wbeb mew-we— and you're not allowed to know what they've _or- and you're not allowed to know what they've or anything, what they've done or anything, so what they've done or anything, se-bem-b— what they've done or anything, so - don't really— what they've done or anything, so don't really know so you don't really know if mew-re— so you don't really know if bbew-relrbsb— so you don't really know if they're risk, they do have they're a risk, but they do have bebbe— they're a risk, but they do have beese-bbem.— they're a risk, but they do have police-them.-still. police with them. but i still bbbb— police with them. but i still bbbb bbeb— police with them. but i still think that given the amount of the think that given the amount of bbe bwbes— think that given the amount of bbe bwbes eb— think that given the amount of the types of patients walk the types of patients that walk bbreegb—wee- the types of patients that walk through you don't through the doors, you don't brew— through the doors, you don't bmew bew— through the doors, you don't know how they're going to bebeve— know how they're going to behave. and _ know how they're going to behave. and for your know how they're going to- behave. and _for your own behave. and i think for your own brebeebem:— behave. and i think for your own brebeebemlbe — behave. and i think for your own protection,-do need- protection, you do need semebbbg— protection, you do need something able protection, you do need something-able record something that is able to record bbem — something that is able to record them .necessary. _ something that is able to record them .necessary. .of- them if necessary. but of course,-want. them if necessary. but ofi course, _want the them if necessary. but of- course,-want the misuse course, we don't want the misuse of course, we don't want the misuse eb-reeerbbg— course, we don't want the misuse of-recording devices.- of these recording devices. we beb-b— of these recording devices. we bem-b-be— of these recording devices. we don't to weaponize them don't want to weaponize them ebber.— don't want to weaponize them ebber. -bmew: - don't want to weaponize them either. know, there is either. but, you know, there is brewing— either. but, you know, there is brebmg ber— either. but, you know, there is training for them.— either. but, you know, there is training for them. they're ebreebw— training for them. they're already safely— training for them. they're already safely rolled out across the community— already safely rolled out across the community and safely used ememg— the community and safely used ememg bebs— the community and safely used ememg bebs eb— the community and safely used among lots of health care practitioners. _ among lots of health care practitioners. so yeah, i think, you— practitioners. so yeah, i think, wee bmew— practitioners. so yeah, i think, wee bmew ,— practitioners. so yeah, i think, wee bmew: .— practitioners. so yeah, i think, you know , i think— practitioners. so yeah, i think, you know , i think it's a really you know, i think it's a really geeb— you know, i think it's a really geeb meb-e— you know, i think it's a really geeb .— you know, i think it's a really good move. i don't know why mew-re— good move. i don't know why bbew-re meb— good move. i don't know why they're not really— good move. i don't know why they're not really in place ebreebw— they're not really in place ebreebw. .— they're not really in place already. i think in the hospital as already. i think in the hospital es webb — already. i think in the hospital es webb bb-s— already. i think in the hospital as well. it's almost like you beme— as well. it's almost like you are lone working, like you're eeb— are lone working, like you're eeb b— are lone working, like you're eeb b be— are lone working, like you're out in the community because
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ebber— out in the community because ebbem wee— out in the community because ebbem wee ere— out in the community because often you are having to shut the eerbebs— often you are having to shut the eerbebs-wbbb— often you are having to shut the curtains-with the- often you are having to shut the curtains with the patient curtains and be with the patient ebeme— curtains and be with the patient ebeme-wee— curtains and be with the patient alone..you know,— curtains and be with the patient alone. you know, the risk is alone. so you know, the risk is be— alone. so you know, the risk is bbe sme— alone. so you know, the risk is bbe se— alone. so you know, the risk is the same. so i— alone. so you know, the risk is the same. so i think it's bmeerbemb— the same. so i think it's important. and like i said about emebb— important. and like i said about context, sometimes you have bebembs— context, sometimes you have bebembs bbeb— context, sometimes you have patients that are— context, sometimes you have patients that are really membebbw— patients that are really mentally unwell . they not mentally unwell. they might not beve— mentally unwell. they might not beee—mew— mentally unwell. they might not beee—mew mbgbb- mentally unwell. they might not have—they might ,- mentally unwell. they might not have they might , you have insight and they might, you bmew— have insight and they might, you bbeb-wee:— have insight and they might, you brew-wee beb- have insight and they might, you know, you, but they know, assault you, but they bewem-b— know, assault you, but they. bevem-b—b-s haven't got the insight. so it's bmberbemb— haven't got the insight. so it's bmberbemb ber— haven't got the insight. so it's important for their sake and weers— important for their sake and weers bbeb— important for their sake and yours that the— important for their sake and yours that the evidence captures reebbw— yours that the evidence captures reebbw eebberes— yours that the evidence captures really captures the— yours that the evidence captures really captures the context of bbe— really captures the context of the situation _ really captures the context of the situation and— really captures the context of the situation and can be emebwseb— the situation and can be analysed appropriately and it's geeb— analysed appropriately and it's geeb ese— analysed appropriately and it's geeb ber— analysed appropriately and it's good use for you— analysed appropriately and it's good use for you know , evidence good use for you know, evidence in eeerb— good use for you know, evidence in court should— good use for you know, evidence in court should it— good use for you know, evidence in court should it get that far? wbebb— in court should it get that far? webb beeb— in court should it get that far? well, look, absolutely . :�* well, look, absolutely. sarah, bbebb— well, look, absolutely. sarah, bbebb wee— well, look, absolutely. sarah, bbebb wee verye— well, look, absolutely. sarah, thank you very, very much. i think you've given me pause for thought there, really, and quite possibly changed my mind on that. thank you very much, that. so thank you very much, sarah jane palmer there, registered writer registered nurse and a writer just reacting that story that just reacting to that story that nurses may well wear. body nurses now may well wear. body cameras initially in a response to the complaints and the cases and the shockingly high level of sexual taking place in sexual assaults taking place in hospitals, including rapes and all of that stuff. so the most serious level there and whether or not that is actually a good
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thing. now i think i've kind of shifted a bit. i don't know about you from looking at it from the patient's perspective of, on camera here of, oh, gosh, i'm on camera here and most vulnerable moment and my most vulnerable moment and my most vulnerable moment and want all and i don't necessarily want all of recorded to actually, of this recorded to actually, i suppose if i'm probably going to be by a security guard be on film by a security guard anyway, and if this person is going make better and it going to make me better and it makes more makes everyone feel more comfortable, maybe, maybe that's all would very all right. i would just be very concerned safety concerned about the safety issue. that footage going issue. and is that footage going to find itself anywhere? but yes, for something yes, time for something completely different now, ladies and it is and gentlemen, because it is patrick's of the day, when patrick's pick of the day, when i a story that might i focus on a story that might have under the radar. and have flown under the radar. and today i to talk about get today i want to talk about get this are this the seagulls who are terrorising flatmates terrorising two flatmates in newcastle little newcastle. it's just a little one here caught my eye one here that caught my eye earlier on. so georgina grey and helen say that the helen mckeever say that the birds are constantly banging on their window for get this 12 hours a day. and we can see there people watching us on telly or online. this little winged terrorist that is knocking on the window non—stop. it's the comments, though, the quotes in this article that
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absolutely floored me this morning when i saw this. so, georgina blesser says, we don't know what they want. they just sit here all day. it's like some sort of horror film. helen has sgeereb— sort of horror film. helen has sgeereb eb— sort of horror film. helen has sgeereb me be— sort of horror film. helen has squared up to them- �*" helen has squared up to them before, but mew— squared up to them before, but bbew erewb— squared up to them before, but they aren't fazed. “rig t they aren't fazed. they come bbeb— they aren't fazed. they come back every day at half six on the dot. it's an absolute nightmare. i even googled how long seagulls live for hoping that they might just die because we are demented. but they live for 20 years. so there we go. all right. okay well, that story certainly got me going this morning. anyway, i just thought i'd bring you a little bit of light relief, although, sadly, it's not light relief, is it, for georgia and helen. but yes, there right. okay, there we are, right. okay, ladies i've still ladies and gentlemen, i've still got coming your way. got loads more coming your way. andrew bridgen kicked andrew bridgen has been kicked out conservative party out of the conservative party after compared covid after he compared covid 19 vaccines the holocaust . after he compared covid 19 vaccines the holocaust. he vaccines with the holocaust. he didn't it directly, said it's didn't do it directly, said it's the issue the worst humanitarian issue since so i'm going to talk since then. so i'm going to talk to him live on gb news in a matter of moments. so do not miss that. i'm patrick christys
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channel well, a wonderful afternoon to you all. is patrick christys here on gb news. he's just gone 4:00 and right at the top of this hour. fingers crossed we have got this man, andrew bridgen. yes. he's just been booted out of the conservative party the comments that he party for the comments that he made relation to covid made in relation to the covid vaccine. course , making vaccine. and of course, making reference the holocaust. reference to the holocaust. plenty feel that plenty of people feel that that's decision. that's the right decision. plenty people feel as though plenty of people feel as though he was really unfairly treated in for in standing up for a marginalised group of people who suffered as a result of having the vaccine. which side are you on? i will put all of this 200 bndge on? i will put all of this 200 bridge and himself right here on this crossed, this show. and fingers crossed, just a few minutes time. elsewhere, have elsewhere, though, do we have a moral obligation to make safe and legal routes for sudanese refugees or are we already doing
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our bit? we're getting british citizens out. should we take more people or are we already doing our bit elsewhere as well? yes, that's right . so the tories yes, that's right. so the tories are saying that they've hit their 20,000 new police recruits target . bit sceptical about that target. bit sceptical about that personally, given that they've left 20,000 of them not so long ago . but who on earth would ago. but who on earth would actually be a police officer in this day and age? all the knife, crime and the body cams and accusations of racism and all of that i'm going be that jazz. i'm going to be talking of that in talking about all of that in other yes do you feel other news. yes do you feel poor? well, if you do, this chap just you're going to just thinks that you're going to have used it. the bank have to get used to it. the bank of chief economist of england's chief economist just basically said, you're just basically said, if you're poon h just basically said, if you're poor, it up, guys. how do poor, suck it up, guys. how do you about that? mean, you think about that? i mean, actually, bit of info actually, i've got a bit of info about much money he's on and about how much money he's on and how much money he stands to earn when that job as well. when he leaves that job as well. so sure he'll ever so i'm not sure he'll ever really what it's like to be really know what it's like to be poor elsewhere. just to round us off the as well. no off for the hour as well. no sex, please. we're british. yes, that's apparently that's right. apparently more people ever are choosing people than ever are choosing
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choosing or what choosing to be celibate or what do make of that? patrick do you make of that? patrick christys news is . yeah christys on gb news is. yeah yeah. that last one's a little bit close to home anyway, right? get your views coming in, people. vaiews@gbnews.uk. andrew pierce region will be on shortly. find your questions. i'm i can put them to him. do you think we have a moral obugafion you think we have a moral obligation take more obligation to take in more people sudan are we people from sudan or are we already doing our bit gbviews@gbnews.uk now though, headunes gbviews@gbnews.uk now though, headlines . patrick. headlines with polly. patrick. thanks very much indeed. and our top story on gb news— thanks very much indeed. and our top story on gb news this- rrtfig and our top story on gb news this hour, the top story on gb news this hour, bbe beme— top story on gb news this hour, the home secretary says there are the home secretary says there me bbems— the home secretary says there are no plans to— the home secretary says there are no plans to create safe reebes— are no plans to create safe reebes eeb— are no plans to create safe reebes eeb eb— are no plans to create safe routes out of sudan for refugees . bbe— routes out of sudan for refugees . bbe bbsb— routes out of sudan for refugees . the first flight— routes out of sudan for refugees . the first flight carrying brbbsb— . the first flight carrying british nationals out of the eeembrw— british nationals out of the eeembrw bes— british nationals out of the country has landed successfully in bbe— country has landed successfully in bbe bb— country has landed successfully in the uk today— country has landed successfully in the uk today at— country has landed successfully in the uk today at stansted. bbere— in the uk today at stansted. bbere bbem— in the uk today at stansted. more than 300— in the uk today at stansted. more than 300 people have had to be eweeeebeb— more than 300 people have had to be evacuated from _ more than 300 people have had to be evacuated from the country so far, be evacuated from the country so ber: emb— be evacuated from the country so ber: emb tbs— be evacuated from the country so far, and it's estimated around booe— far, and it's estimated around 4000 british— far, and it's estimated around 4000 british nationals were sbebb— 4000 british nationals were sbeeb bbere. — 4000 british nationals were stuck there. hundreds of people beve— stuck there. hundreds of people bewe beem— stuck there. hundreds of people have been killed— stuck there. hundreds of people have been killed since fighting
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bebweem— have been killed since fighting between military— have been killed since fighting between military factions broke eeb.— between military factions broke eeb. bbere— between military factions broke out. more than— between military factions broke out. more than two weeks ago. me— out. more than two weeks ago. bbe ebme— out. more than two weeks ago. the prime minister has warned of a the prime minister has warned of e erbbbeb— the prime minister has warned of e erbbbeb ze— the prime minister has warned of a critical 24 hours— the prime minister has warned of a critical 24 hours now ahead of us a critical 24 hours now ahead of es es bbe— a critical 24 hours now ahead of us as the military— a critical 24 hours now ahead of us as the military races to rescue people— us as the military races to rescue people before the 72 hour eeesebbe— rescue people before the 72 hour ceasefire ends— rescue people before the 72 hour ceasefire ends on— rescue people before the 72 hour ceasefire ends on suella braverman says the government's brberbbw— braverman says the government's brberbbw bs— braverman says the government's brberbbw bs reseebg— braverman says the government's priority is rescuing british beepe— priority is rescuing british beebbe. we— priority is rescuing british people. we have no plans to do bbeb. — people. we have no plans to do bbeb. oer— people. we have no plans to do that. our focus— people. we have no plans to do that. our focus is— people. we have no plans to do that. our focus is first- people. we have no plans to do that. t t �*" re“r: that. our focus is first and foremost right now and bearing in mind this is a fast moving situation and a complex situation and a complex situation is to support british nationals and their dependents . nationals and their dependents. while rozan ahmed, who was bereeb— while rozan ahmed, who was bereeb be— while rozan ahmed, who was forced to make— while rozan ahmed, who was forced to make her own way out of forced to make her own way out eb sebem— forced to make her own way out eb sebem ,— forced to make her own way out of sudan , spoke— forced to make her own way out of sudan , spoke to— forced to make her own way out of sudan , spoke to us earlier of sudan, spoke to us earlier ebeeb— of sudan, spoke to us earlier ebeeb ber— of sudan, spoke to us earlier about her journey isn't easy. it about her journey isn't easy. bb rsb-b— about her journey isn't easy. bb rsb-b eebe.— about her journey isn't easy. it isn't safe. it's— about her journey isn't easy. it isn't safe. it's a— about her journey isn't easy. it isn't safe. it's a massive, massive risk to go out on the streets and drive and attempt to move in the midst of war. and it's also not cheap. it's very expensive. so it was a harrowing, harrowing journey .
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harrowing, harrowing journey. rozan ahmed could now hear the mp, rozan ahmed could now hear the ebb ambrew— rozan ahmed could now hear the mp, andrew bridgen, has been erbebbeb— mp, andrew bridgen, has been expelled from _ mp, andrew bridgen, has been expelled from the conservative party— expelled from the conservative berbw .— expelled from the conservative berbw . bbeb-s— expelled from the conservative party . that's after he retweeted party. that's after he retweeted a party. that's after he retweeted eeemerbemb— party. that's after he retweeted a comparison between covid 19 emb— a comparison between covid 19 vaccines and the— a comparison between covid 19 vaccines and the holocaust and beemb— vaccines and the holocaust and beemb be— vaccines and the holocaust and was found to have— vaccines and the holocaust and was found to have breached bebbwbg— was found to have breached lobbying rules.— was found to have breached lobbying rules. the north—west leicestershire— lobbying rules. the north—west leicestershire mp— lobbying rules. the north—west leicestershire mp was expelled on leicestershire mp was expelled em abrb— leicestershire mp was expelled em abrbb bbe— leicestershire mp was expelled on april the 12th— leicestershire mp was expelled on april the 12th following the recommendation— on april the 12th following the recommendation of a disciplinary bemeb— recommendation of a disciplinary bemeb emb— recommendation of a disciplinary bemeb emb ws— recommendation of a disciplinary panel and was given 28 days to ebbeeb— panel and was given 28 days to ebbeeb .— panel and was given 28 days to ebbeeb . be— panel and was given 28 days to ebbeeb. be serb— panel and was given 28 days to appeal. he said he'll stand egeb— appeal. he said he'll stand egeb eb— appeal. he said he'll stand egeb eb bbe— appeal. he said he'll stand again at the next election wbbsb— again at the next election wbbsb be— again at the next election whilst he hit— again at the next election whilst he hit out at what he eebbeb— whilst he hit out at what he called corruption, collusion and ebs b— called corruption, collusion and cover ups in the— called corruption, collusion and cover ups in the political swsbem — cover ups in the political swsbem .— cover ups in the political swsbem . bew— cover ups in the political system . now the leaders of system. now the leaders of ebeme— system. now the leaders of ukraine and— system. now the leaders of ukraine and china have held a bebebbeme— ukraine and china have held a telephone call— ukraine and china have held a telephone call for— ukraine and china have held a telephone call for the first bme— telephone call for the first bme sbee— telephone call for the first time since russia's invasion of ebeme— time since russia's invasion of bbrebe besb— time since russia's invasion of ukraine last year. _ time since russia's invasion of ukraine last year. chinese state mebe— ukraine last year. chinese state mebbe sbebms— ukraine last year. chinese state media claims president xi rmbmg— media claims president xi rmbbg bebb— media claims president xi jinping told volodymyr zelenskyy he's jinping told volodymyr zelenskyy be-s brebereb— jinping told volodymyr zelenskyy be-s brebereb be— jinping told volodymyr zelenskyy he's prepared to send special representatives— he's prepared to send special representatives to ukraine to sberb— representatives to ukraine to sberb beese— representatives to ukraine to start peace talks. president xi is start peace talks. president xi bs bbe— start peace talks. president xi bs bbe mesb— start peace talks. president xi is the most powerful world beeber— is the most powerful world beeber be— is the most powerful world leader to have— is the most powerful world leader to have refrained from bemeemebg— leader to have refrained from denouncing russia's invasion of
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bbrebe— denouncing russia's invasion of bbrebe er— denouncing russia's invasion of ukraine or making a state visit to ukraine or making a state visit be bessbe— ukraine or making a state visit be bessbe be— ukraine or making a state visit to russia to meet— ukraine or making a state visit to russia to meet president pebb— to russia to meet president bebm resb— to russia to meet president putin just last— to russia to meet president putin just last month. since bebreerw— putin just last month. since bebreerw, be-s— putin just last month. since february, he's been promoting wbeb— february, he's been promoting wbeb be— february, he's been promoting what he calls— february, he's been promoting what he calls a— february, he's been promoting what he calls a 12 point peace bbem— what he calls a 12 point peace bbem .— what he calls a 12 point peace bbem . bew:— what he calls a 12 point peace plan . now, here— what he calls a 12 point peace plan . now, here the met police plan. now, here the met police commissioner— plan. now, here the met police commissioner has— plan. now, here the met police commissioner has admitted the berse— commissioner has admitted the beree besm-b— commissioner has admitted the force hasn't reached its recruitment— force hasn't reached its recruitment target, saying there are recruitment target, saying there ebeeb— recruitment target, saying there are about 1000— recruitment target, saying there are about 1000 officers short . are about 1000 officers short. bbere— are about 1000 officers short. bbere bbem— are about 1000 officers short. more than 20,000 _ are about 1000 officers short. more than 20,000 new police ebbbers— more than 20,000 new police officers have— more than 20,000 new police officers have ,— more than 20,000 new police officers have , though, been officers have, though, been bbeb— officers have, though, been bbeb b— officers have, though, been hired in england and wales. brbbeb-s— hired in england and wales. britain's biggest police force , britain's biggest police force, bbeegb— britain's biggest police force, though, missing— britain's biggest police force, though, missing out on its individual— though, missing out on its individual target. the ongoing reerebbmemb— individual target. the ongoing recruitment programme is erbeebeb— recruitment programme is erbeebeb be — recruitment programme is expected to cost £185 recruitment programme is expected to cost £18.5 billion bbe— expected to cost £18.5 billion over the next— expected to cost £18.5 billion over the next decade. the prime bbbbsber— over the next decade. the prime minister earlier— over the next decade. the prime minister earlier said that emeegb— minister earlier said that enough progress is being done but enough progress is being done beb mere— enough progress is being done but more work— enough progress is being done but more work is— enough progress is being done but more work is needed. mr bewbew— but more work is needed. mr bewbew serb— but more work is needed. mr rowley said the— but more work is needed. mr rowley said the met's shortfall berbbw— rowley said the met's shortfall berbbw bewm— rowley said the met's shortfall was partly down to the force's eerremb— was partly down to the force's current reputation in i wish we-b— current reputation in i wish we-b mb— current reputation in i wish we-b bbb bb— current reputation in i wish we-b bbb bb ,— current reputation in i wish we'd hit it , but— current reputation in i wish we'd hit it, but we haven't. why— we'd hit it, but we haven't. wbw beret-b— we'd hit it, but we haven't. why haven't you— we'd hit it, but we haven't. why haven't you so- we'd hit it, but we haven't. why haven't you so i- we'd hit it, but we haven't. why haven't you so i think there are a range of there are a range of factors in this and we have recruited over the last three years more than 9000 officers as which is the most, i think, ever
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in such a short period. we haven't hit the we- e we haven't hit the we haven't hit bbe— haven't hit the we haven't hit bbe bergeb. — haven't hit the we haven't hit the target. obviously, we are sbrbbg— the target. obviously, we are sbrbbg be— the target. obviously, we are striving to maintain the geebbw. — striving to maintain the quality. that's really important .-bbbb— quality. that's really important .-think there— quality. that's really important .-think there are- quality. that's really important . think there are factors . and i think there are factors wbbb— . and i think there are factors which-both. - . and i think there are factors which-both. i- . and i think there are factors which-both. i think| . and i think there are factors. which-both. i think the which include both. i think the reputation of the organisation at moment help at the moment doesn't help recruiting. now at the moment doesn't help recruiting . now man has been recruiting. now man has been tebeb— recruiting. now man has been tebbeb ber— recruiting. now man has been jailed for assisting— "rt:rtft. t 3 now man has been jailed for assisting nine year ebb— jailed for assisting nine year ebb bbere— jailed for assisting nine year old olivia pratt—korbel murderer, 41- old olivia pratt—korbel murderer, 41 year old paul bessebb— murderer, 41 year old paul russell pleaded guilty to being — russell pleaded guilty to driving. russell pleaded guilty to- driving. thomas cashman after he'd fatally shot the nine year old in liverpool last summer. he told police in the days after olivia's death that cashman was responsible for her murder, claiming he was not aware of that when he helped him. he's been sentenced to 22 months in prison . the russian opposition prison. the russian opposition leader, alexei navalny , says an leader, alexei navalny, says an investigation has now opened that could see him serve an extra 30 years in jail. mr navalny , who is currently navalny, who is currently serving 11.5 years in jail , is serving 11.5 years in jail, is being investigated on terrorism charges, a charge he's called
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absurd. he survived an assassination attempt in 2020 after being poisoned . and the after being poisoned. and the kremlin denies any involvement . kremlin denies any involvement. but a new data reveals the average cost of annual car insurance is now £107 more expensive than it was 12 months ago.the expensive than it was 12 months ago. the research from one poll found that average price of the policy taken out for people in the first three months of this year was £637. that's the highest since they peaked in 2011. on average, those surveys were charged £53 more for their annual price on their existing policy . us gb news. more policy. us gb news. more headunesin policy. us gb news. more headlines in half an hour. see you then . you then. yes. you then. - i yes. welcome wee bbeb. — i yes. welcome along, wee bbeb. — - yes. welcome along, everybody. yes. welcome along, everybody. let's . yes. welcome along, everybody. beb-s sberb— let's start with this afternoon's- let's start with this afternoon's big breaking news, emb— afternoon's big breaking news, emb-bbeb— afternoon's big breaking news,i and-that-bridgen and that is that andrew bridgen has
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and that is that andrew bridgen bes—eeb— and that is that andrew bridgen bes—eeb eb- and that is that andrew bridgen has—out of the- has been kicked out of the conservative— conservative party after he eembereb— conservative party after he compared covid 19 vaccines to being— compared covid 19 vaccines to bebg ee— compared covid 19 vaccines to bebg eb— compared covid 19 vaccines to being one of the— compared covid 19 vaccines to being one of the largest crimes egebsb— being one of the largest crimes against humanity— being one of the largest crimes against humanity since the bebeeeesb— against humanity since the bebeeeesb .— against humanity since the holocaust . now, bridgen was also holocaust. now, bridgen was also beemb— holocaust. now, bridgen was also beemb be— holocaust. now, bridgen was also beemb be beve— holocaust. now, bridgen was also found to have breached lobbying rebes— found to have breached lobbying rebes bw— found to have breached lobbying rebes bw e— found to have breached lobbying rules by a disciplinary panel, emb— rules by a disciplinary panel, emb be— rules by a disciplinary panel, emb be sews— rules by a disciplinary panel, and he says that— rules by a disciplinary panel, and he says that he's been erbebbeb— and he says that he's been expelled from _ and he says that he's been expelled from the party, quote, ember— expelled from the party, quote, ember bebse— expelled from the party, quote, under false pretences. now, brbbgem— under false pretences. now, brbbgem beb— under false pretences. now, bridgen had been a tory mp since zero.— bridgen had been a tory mp since we be— bridgen had been a tory mp since we be besb— bridgen had been a tory mp since 2010. he lost the— bridgen had been a tory mp since 2010. he lost the whip in remeerw— 2010. he lost the whip in remeerw .— 2010. he lost the whip in remeerw. bm— 2010. he lost the whip in january. i'm going to read you out january. i'm going to read you eeb wbeb— january. i'm going to read you out what andrew— january. i'm going to read you out what andrew bridgen had to say out what andrew bridgen had to sew ebeeb— out what andrew bridgen had to sew ebeeb bbbs— out what andrew bridgen had to say about this. so— out what andrew bridgen had to say about this. so he said, my erbebsbem— say about this. so he said, my expulsion from _ say about this. so he said, my expulsion from the conservative party— expulsion from the conservative berbw ember— expulsion from the conservative party under false— expulsion from the conservative party under false pretences only eembbms— party under false pretences only eembbms bbe— party under false pretences only confirms the culture of eerrebbem— confirms the culture of corruption ,— confirms the culture of corruption , collusion and cover corruption, collusion and cover ebs— corruption, collusion and cover ebs wbeb— corruption, collusion and cover ups which plagues our political swsbem — ups which plagues our political swsbem .— ups which plagues our political swsbem . .— ups which plagues our political swsbem . . beve— ups which plagues our political system . i have been a vocal system. i have been a vocal ebbe— system. i have been a vocal erbbe eb— system. i have been a vocal critic of the— system. i have been a vocal critic of the vaccine rollout emb— critic of the vaccine rollout emb bbe — critic of the vaccine rollout emb bbe berbw— critic of the vaccine rollout and the party have been sure to mebe— and the party have been sure to mebe em— and the party have been sure to make an example— and the party have been sure to make an example of me. so that's wbeb— make an example of me. so that's wbeb ambrew— make an example of me. so that's what andrew bridgen has had to say what andrew bridgen has had to sew ebeeb— what andrew bridgen has had to sew ebeeb ebb— what andrew bridgen has had to say about all of— what andrew bridgen has had to say about all of this. i am bebmg— say about all of this. i am bebbg bbeb— say about all of this. i am hoping that we— say about all of this. i am hoping that we are going to go bbe— hoping that we are going to go bbe be— hoping that we are going to go live to andrew— hoping that we are going to go live to andrew bridgen outside besbmbsber— live to andrew bridgen outside westminster in— live to andrew bridgen outside westminster in a— live to andrew bridgen outside westminster in a matter of moments. we— westminster in a matter of moments. we are just trying to serembbe—bbml moments. we are just trying to. scramble—him on scramble around and get him on screen. so fingers— scramble around and get him on screen. so fingers crossed we wbb— screen. so fingers crossed we wbbb ge — screen. so fingers crossed we wbbb ge be — screen. so fingers crossed we
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will go to bridgen will go to andrew bridgen very, verw— will go to andrew bridgen very, bew—geesbemsl very shortly. lots of questions to very shortly. lots of questions be—beeb- very shortly. lots of questions be—beeb brebbwl to put to him. look, pretty sbmebw— to put to him. look, pretty sbmbbw, be— to put to him. look, pretty simplyr do you— to put to him. look, pretty simply, do you think the simply, do you think that the conservative— simply, do you think that the conservative right to conservative party is right to get— conservative party is right to geb bb— conservative party is right to geb rbb eb— conservative party is right to get rid of him?— conservative party is right to get rid of him? did you find bbeb— get rid of him? did you find that-comments- get rid of him? did you find that comments certainly that his comments certainly bbbbg— linking the covid vaccines, i mean, some would argue anything to mean, some would argue anything be be— mean, some would argue anything to the holocaust— mean, some would argue anything to the holocaust is— mean, some would argue anything to the holocaust is just bbsgesbbg— to the holocaust is just disgusting-is- to the holocaust is just disgusting is worthy of the disgusting and is worthy of the beeb— disgusting and is worthy of the beeblbs— disgusting and is worthy of the beeblbs be— disgusting and is worthy of the boot is he actually standing boot or is he actually standing up boot or is he actually standing eb ber— boot or is he actually standing eb berlgreeb— boot or is he actually standing eb berlgreeb eb— boot or is he actually standing up for group of people who up for a group of people who wereee-b- up for a group of people who were _who-letl up for a group of people who- were _who-let down were shunned, who were let down and were shunned, who were let down emb—bbeb— were shunned, who were let down emb—bbeb b- were shunned, who were let down and—died in many. and who, frankly died in many cases as a result— and who, frankly died in many cases as a result of the coronavirus_ cases as a result of the coronavirus vaccine? do you bbbb— coronavirus vaccine? do you bbbb bbeb— coronavirus vaccine? do you think that he's— coronavirus vaccine? do you think that he's actually doing greeb— think that he's actually doing greeb werb— think that he's actually doing great work for— think that he's actually doing great work for people, a marginalised- great work for people, a marginalised group, or do you bbbb— marginalised group, or do you bbbb bbeb— marginalised group, or do you think that he— marginalised group, or do you think that he caused massive eembs— think that he caused massive ewembs-wes— think that he caused massive events-was bang- think that he caused massive events was bang out of events and was bang out of erberb— events and was bang out of order? vaiews@gbnews.uk? look, i order? vaiews@gbnews.uk? look, l-your _ order? vaiews@gbnews.uk? look, l-voue es— order? vaiews@gbnews.uk? look, l-voue es seem— order? vaiews@gbnews.uk? look, i you, as soon andrew i promise you, as soon as andrew brbbgem— i promise you, as soon as andrew bridgenlreadye_ i promise you, as soon as andrew bridgenlready, we'll- i promise you, as soon as andrew bridgen ready, we'll get bridgen is ready, we'll get him on bridgen is ready, we'll get him em-sbew. — bridgen is ready, we'll get him on-show. right.— bridgen is ready, we'll get him on show. right. on on the show. right. moving on bb— on the show. right. moving on om: wee— on the show. right. moving on now. oh, we've got him right on ambrew— now. oh, we've got him right on cue. andrew bridgen is about to p0p— cue. andrew bridgen is about to pop up— cue. andrew bridgen is about to pop up on— cue. andrew bridgen is about to p0p ”p on your— cue. andrew bridgen is about to pop up on your screens, i bebbewe— pop up on your screens, i believe. ladies- pop up on your screens, i believe. ladies and gentlemen, ambrew— believe. ladies and gentlemen, andrew bridgen. _ believe. ladies and gentlemen, andrew bridgen. there? andrew bridgen. are you there? yesr_ andrew bridgen. are you there? bes-bs— andrew bridgen. are you there? veslbs . — andrew bridgen. are you there? veslbs. bm— andrew bridgen. are you there? yes,.is. i'm here- andrew bridgen. are you there? yes,.is. i'm here for- andrew bridgen. are you there? yes, is . “rtrrt; andrew bridgen. are you there? yes, is. “rtrrt; yes, he is. i'm here for you all the time, patrick. all right. memb— the time, patrick. all right. bbemb wee— the time, patrick. all right. bbemb wee very— the time, patrick. all right. thank you very much.- t n all right. thank you very much. well, look, bbsb— thank you very much. well, look, bbsb emb— thank you very much. well, look, first and foremost,— thank you very much. well, look, first and foremost, you hear me 7 first and foremost, you hear me b-beer— first and foremost, you hear me b-beer wee— first and foremost, you hear me ?-hear you first- first and foremost, you hear me ? hear you first and ? i can hear you first and beremesb— ? i can hear you first and foremost. what's your what's weer—bebg- foremost. what's your what's. your—being expelled your reaction to being expelled brem—berbwl
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your reaction to being expelled brem—berbw b i from the conservative party? web.— from the conservative party? web. bm— from the conservative party? web. b-m bebw— from the conservative party? well, i'm very disappointed that the party have leaked this out . the party have leaked this out. as i understand it, confidentiality was required for me to be able to appeal against the unwarranted expulsion from the unwarranted expulsion from the conservative party. i think it's completely spurious . and it's completely spurious. and i've issued a rebuttal document now to the public, which i sent to cchq some days ago. i couldn't even get them to respond despite repeated requests for them to confirm they'd received it. nothing back from various emails at cchq . i from various emails at cchq. i do recall that over the so—called offensive tweet, i was suspended within within an hour or so. i don't know how they respond to complaints when they never respond to my complaints . never respond to my complaints. what have they said to you? as far what have they said to you? as ber es— what have they said to you? as far as we're aware,— what have they said to you? as far as we're aware, you have beem— far as we're aware, you have been eebebbeb— far as we're aware, you have been expelled from the tory berbw. — been expelled from the tory berbw. bb— been expelled from the tory berbw. rb sews— been expelled from the tory party. it says here after eemberbg— party. it says here after comparing the coronavirus vaccines with— comparing the coronavirus
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vaccines with with the holocaust . bbeb— vaccines with with the holocaust . wbeb beve— vaccines with with the holocaust . what have they— vaccines with with the holocaust . what have they said to you sbebbbebbw— . what have they said to you sbebbbebbw ,— . what have they said to you specifically , hinckley, about specifically, hinckley, about why— specifically, hinckley, about wbw weere — specifically, hinckley, about wbw weere me— specifically, hinckley, about why you're no longer in the beeese— why you're no longer in the tories? well,— why you're no longer in the tories? well, that's that's beerreeb — tories? well, that's that's incorrect. the- tories? well, that's that's incorrect. e incorrect. the tweet in question, i was retweeting a world leading cardiologist and the paper from the from a criminal draghi doctorate of the hebrew university of jerusalem . hebrew university of jerusalem. and the quote i retweeted from the cardiologist was that the vaccine rollout was the biggest crime against humanity since the holocaust. that is neither denying the holocaust or or belittling the holocaust. it's using the holocaust as a moment in time and saying that that that the rollout of the vaccines is the biggest crime against humanity since the holocaust. i've got to ask you, is that a flawed and potentially quite offensive comparison? 6 million jews, at least amongst- rt , 6 million jews, at least amongst other greets— jews, at least amongst other greebs es— jews, at least amongst other greebs es webb— jews, at least amongst other groups as well, died , died groups as well, died, died berbg— groups as well, died, died berbg bbe— groups as well, died, died
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during the holocaust . groups as well, died, died during the holocaust. i think beebbe— during the holocaust. i think beebbe weebb— during the holocaust. i think people would say people people beve— people would say people people bewe e— people would say people people bewe e beb— people would say people people have a lot more— people would say people people have a lot more people than that ebb— have a lot more people than that wbbb be— have a lot more people than that will be injured.— have a lot more people than that will be injured. comparison go wbebb— will be injured. comparison go webb .— will be injured. comparison go webb . ze— will be injured. comparison go on. well , 25 of— will be injured. comparison go on. well , 25 of the- will be injured. comparison go on. i7“; : on. well, 25 of the world's leading jewish doctors and scientists wrote a letter to number 10 on the 30th of december. it was it was not initiated by me, but i was sent a copy of it. number ten. they accused the prime minister of falsely accusing me of anti—semitism, which obviously diminishes anti—semitism . and diminishes anti—semitism. and they also accused the prime minister of seeking to shut down my right to free speech in the house of commons, which they regarded as a sign of a totalitarian regime which they find deeply worrying when find deeply worrying now, when challenged , number ten said challenged, number ten said initially they hadn't received that it was then that letter. it was then subsequently sent recorded delivery and arrived on the 10th of that letter has of february. that letter has remained unanswered by number 10. i also put that into my evidence pack as originally rebutting these allegations against me, and that was never
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mentioned in the in the dismissal letter that they they just conveniently ignored 25 of the world's leading jewish scientists and doctors who who defended me . do you regret defended me. do you regret sewmg— defended me. do you regret sewbg bb— defended me. do you regret sewbg b mew— defended me. do you regret saying it now in— defended me. do you regret saying it now in the- 33: do you regret saying it now in the cold light of saying it now in the cold light eb deve— saying it now in the cold light eb daye gbem— saying it now in the cold light of day, given that— saying it now in the cold light of day, given that you've been eebebbeb— of day, given that you've been esbebbeb e— of day, given that you've been expelled ? it's— of day, given that you've been expelled ? it's deeply upsetting expelled? it's deeply upsetting to expelled? it's deeply upsetting be be— expelled? it's deeply upsetting to be expelled— expelled? it's deeply upsetting to be expelled from a party i've seweb— to be expelled from a party i've serveb ber— to be expelled from a party i've served for several— to be expelled from a party i've served for several decades and eembebgmeb— served for several decades and campaigned hard— served for several decades and campaigned hard for. but i, i berebw— campaigned hard for. but i, i barely recognise the conservative party at the moment. we seem to have moved away from being a party that legislates for the people to a party that legislates against the people . surely i've got the the people. surely i've got the right to free speech, to express the genuine and legitimate concerns of my constituents about the safety and efficacy of experimental vaccines which were never tested properly . we know never tested properly. we know there's considerable vaccine harms. they're starting to emerge now and patrick, before i
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spoke out in december and what urged me to do so was when the government were looking at approving the experimental vaccines for children down to the age of six months to babies as a result of those speeches i gave in parliament and the government position has moved in a few months from wanting to vaccinate babies of six months. that never happened . then they that never happened. then they moved the position to only over 50 and the immunocompromised . 50 and the immunocompromised. and in january, for february the 12th, i gave another speech on the 17th of march, pointing out how the boosters were, the lack of efficacy and the cost of them, and the dangers of them. and then it's moved to over 75, a completely different position that the government were adopting. and put it to you, adopting. and i put it to you, there was no one else speaking out. and if cost my out. and if that's cost me my political career, then so be it. quite honestly, patrick. because if saved life or one if i've saved the life or one child from being injured, that's worth isn't it? well, child from being injured, that's worth isn't it ? well, what worth it, isn't it? well, what weebb— worth it, isn't it? well, what weebb wee— worth it, isn't it? well, what weebb wee sew— worth it, isn't it? well, what would you say to— t t t?’ well, what would you say to people , andrew, would you say to people, andrew, wbe— would you say to people, andrew, wbe weebb — would you say to people, andrew, wbe weebb sew— would you say to people, andrew, who would say that— would you say to people, andrew, who would say that maybe you've
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ewerbbeweb — who would say that maybe you've ewerbbeweb bbe— who would say that maybe you've overplayed the harms of the vaccines and _ overplayed the harms of the vaccines and that maybe you have ewersbebeb— vaccines and that maybe you have overstated how— vaccines and that maybe you have overstated how experimental they were or how much— overstated how experimental they were or how much potential bemege— were or how much potential bemege bbeb— were or how much potential damage that they could cause for beebbe— damage that they could cause for beebbe bbeb— damage that they could cause for people that basically you've geme— people that basically you've geme e— people that basically you've geme e bib.— people that basically you've gone a bit. ott— people that basically you've gone a bit. ott well, let's bebebe— gone a bit. ott well, let's bebebe bb— gone a bit. ott well, let's debate it then,— gone a bit. ott well, let's debate it then, patrick. but erew— debate it then, patrick. but ererw bme— debate it then, patrick. but ererw bme .— debate it then, patrick. but every time i get— debate it then, patrick. but every time i get stand up to speak, the chamber of the house of commons empties , they put up of commons empties, they put up ministers who aren't even qualified to be in the area of specialisation . the last two specialisation. the last two speeches i've given, we've had a minister who wasn't even the minister who wasn't even the minister to respond to that question. this is not open and free democracy . you know that free democracy. you know that there's a narrative out there and if you go against the narrative the vaccines narrative that the vaccines are safe effective, which safe and effective, which they're not, you get closed down. i'm banned from the from the 13th of december when i stood up in the house of commons and that the vaccines were and said that the vaccines were needed to investigate, i've been basically the basically cancelled from the mainstream i'm just mainstream media and i'm just going just to going to look, i'm just going to come and say , you're come in and say, you're perfectly entitled to your view
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. of you are. and that is . of course you are. and that is bbeb— . of course you are. and that is bbeb-eb— . of course you are. and that is bbeb-eb bbe— . of course you are. and that is that-at the same- of course you are. and that is that at the same time, that is that at the same time, weebb— that is that at the same time, weebb wee— that is that at the same time, would you accept— that is that at the same time, would you accept that the vaccines did— would you accept that the vaccines did save lives , though? vaccines did save lives, though? beebb— vaccines did save lives, though? beebb wee— vaccines did save lives, though? would you accept— vaccines did save lives, though? would you accept that ? r:rt:r t would you accept that? i don't .— would you accept that? i don't . beb-b— would you accept that? i don't see i don't see— would you accept that? i don't see i don't see that the evidence is out there. that would would support that. the risk from the vaccine from the vaccine didn't outweigh the benefits to all age groups in the data that i've presented to the data that i've presented to the house of commons, even the most vulnerable, the over 70 was at the best case scenario . so at the best case scenario. so they needed 800 boosters to keep one person out of hospital, not acutely out of hospital, whereas 1 in 800 is at least the average for a severe adverse reaction from the boosters themselves . so from the boosters themselves. so there was no benefit even to the most vulnerable group in society. and i explained all that to the chamber and the house on the 17th of march. no one's been able to rebut those figures because they are scientifically evidenced . yeah, scientifically evidenced. yeah, i get what you're saying-
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errt rtrettr : t: yeah, i get what you're saying . i i get what you're saying. i .— i get what you're saying. i mean, i suppose and when all bbbs— mean, i suppose and when all bbbs bs— mean, i suppose and when all this is investigated , patrick, this is investigated, patrick, if investigated— this is investigated, patrick, if investigated independently , if investigated independently, i'm if investigated independently, b-m ebrebb— if investigated independently, b-m ebrebb .— if investigated independently, i'm afraid i really wish i wsmb— i'm afraid i really wish i wasn't. well,— i'm afraid i really wish i wasn't. well, you you look, you bmew— wasn't. well, you you look, you bmew: wee — wasn't. well, you you look, you bmew, wee beeb. — wasn't. well, you you look, you know, you look. you wish. i wbsb. — know, you look. you wish. i wbsb. .— know, you look. you wish. i wish. i wish— know, you look. you wish. i wish. i wish i— know, you look. you wish. i wish. i wish i was- know, you look. you wish. i wish. i wish i was wrong, but i'm not. yeah > i mean, look, you— i'm not. yeah > i mean, look, wee ebweesbw— i'm not. yeah > i mean, look, you obviously know- / > i mean, look, you obviously know andrew. don't weeb— you obviously know andrew. don't you? bbeb— you obviously know andrew. don't you? bbeb bbe— you obviously know andrew. don't you? that the world health organisation— you? that the world health organisation and a lot of other sbembsbs— organisation and a lot of other scientists and— organisation and a lot of other scientists and doctors would- eeme—bbsbebe come out and massively dispute wbeb— come out and massively dispute wbeb weee— come out and massively dispute what you've said— come out and massively dispute what you've said there. and so i sebbese— what you've said there. and so i sebbeselbe— what you've said there. and so i sebbeselbe bimb— what you've said there. and so i supposeido kind of— what you've said there. and so i suppose do kind of have to suppose i do kind of have to aske— suppose i do kind of have to esb: wbw— suppose i do kind of have to esb: wbw be— suppose i do kind of have to esb, wbw be wee— suppose i do kind of have to ask, why do you think your why do ask, why do you think your why be wee— ask, why do you think your why be wee bbbb— ask, why do you think your why do you think you're right in bbeb— do you think you're right in bbeb meb— do you think you're right in that not because all the people wbe— that not because all the people wbe sew— that not because all the people wbe sew bbeb— that not because all the people who say that they're safe and ebbeebbe— who say that they're safe and effective are _ who say that they're safe and effective are on— who say that they're safe and effective are on the science and mebbeb— effective are on the science and mebbeb sbbe— effective are on the science and medical side have— effective are on the science and medical side have got a bbembeb— medical side have got a financial interest. /rt:r financial interest. you know, beb— financial interest. you know, beb eb— financial interest. you know, 86% of the funding of the medicines and healthcare products, regulatory agency is from big pharma , the joint from big pharma, the joint committee on vaccination and immunisation . the members of immunisation. the members of that committee who are supposed to look at the efficacy and safety of vaccines , they have to safety of vaccines, they have to declare over £1 billion of
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personal interest in big pharma . these are regulators are compromised . and patrick, the compromised. and patrick, the people who are who are giving me that, is that true? yeah . i mean that, is that true? yeah. i mean is that, is that true? yeah. i mean bs bbeb— that, is that true? yeah. i mean is bbeb mew-re— that, is that true? yeah. i mean is that they're they— jtrt;7 yeah. i mean is that they're they haven't got a is that they're they haven't got e beeemerw— is that they're they haven't got a pecuniary interest and those are a pecuniary interest and those mese— a pecuniary interest and those bbese ere— a pecuniary interest and those are those are the— a pecuniary interest and those are those are the figures . crt:r are those are the figures. go ebb— are those are the figures. go ebb ebeeb— are those are the figures. go and check them _ are those are the figures. go and check them up- are those are the figures. go and check them up for yourself. and who do you think funds the w.h.o, the and who do you think funds the who, the biggest funder to the w.h.o, the biggest funder to the w.h.o. is w.h.o, the biggest funder to the who. is the bill and melinda gates foundation an and gavi, both controlled by bill gates , both controlled by bill gates, who you might remember made an awful lot of money out of mrna vaccine, says, look, yeah, it would it would obviously, as i'm sure you can understand, andrew, it goes without saying that many people would dispute fact people would dispute the fact that compromised. et that they were compromised. et cetera. your view? they cetera. that's your view? they weebb— cetera. that's your view? they weebb beve— cetera. that's your view? they weebb bewe e— cetera. that's your view? they would have a different view. they— they would. they would dispute bbeb.— they would. they would dispute bbeb—beeb- they would. they would dispute bbeb—beeb se- that. why do you feel so passionately— that. why do you feel so passionately about this? this is beb-s— passionately about this? this is beb-s be— passionately about this? this is let's be honest— passionately about this? this is let's be honest with you, the bb— let's be honest with you, the bbb wee — let's be honest with you, the bbb wee beve— let's be honest with you, the hill you have chosen to die on, you— hill you have chosen to die on, wee eeebb— hill you have chosen to die on, you could have— hill you have chosen to die on, you could have had a perfectly eemberbebbe— you could have had a perfectly comfortable gig,— you could have had a perfectly comfortable gig, no doubt, in the comfortable gig, no doubt, in bbe beese— comfortable gig, no doubt, in the house of— comfortable gig, no doubt, in the house of commons, until the beebbe— the house of commons, until the beebbe eb— the house of commons, until the beebbe eb berm— the house of commons, until the people of north west leicestershire decide that
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mew-we— leicestershire decide that bbew-we beb— leicestershire decide that they've had enough you. they've had enough of you. why did they've had enough of you. why bib-beebe— they've had enough of you. why did-decide to— they've had enough of you. why did-decide to ,— they've had enough of you. why did-decide to , for- they've had enough of you. why did decide to , for want of a did you decide to, for want of a beer— did you decide to, for want of a bebber rbrese— did you decide to, for want of a better phrase, die— did you decide to, for want of a better phrase, die on this hill . because this— better phrase, die on this hill . because this is— better phrase, die on this hill . because this is about the safety and the health and well—being of children. and when the government the certainly young people are at no risk of dying from from covid 19. but there's a clear risk from the vaccine. it doesn't make scientific sense to expose people. you know, the first rule of medicine is do no harm . um, of medicine is do no harm. um, sajid javid was advised by there are a number of doctors who are conservative mps. i know that he was advised that when he took over from matt hancock, not to authorise the experimental vaccines for anyone under 18, he listened to that advice, but he didn't take it and he authorised them. that was a huge mistake. patrick the harms that have been done are not rare. they're common. there are at least 1 in 800 and it could be down to 1 in 300, a severe adverse event.
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that's why we've got excess deaths. another issue we can't debate in parliament how many times i asked for it, you know, there's 1000, 2000 excess deaths a week in this country. and parliament does not want to debate it. i mean, this just isn't right. okay now, look, ambrew— isn't right. okay now, look, andrew, again— isn't right. okay now, look, andrew, again ,— isn't right. okay now, look, andrew, again , i've- c t g cites/beg now, look, andrew, again , i've got to say, andrew, again, i've got to say, i andrew, again, i've got to say, . bmegbe— andrew, again, i've got to say, r bmegbe bbeb— andrew, again, i've got to say, i imagine that a— andrew, again, i've got to say, i imagine that a lot of the ebebms— i imagine that a lot of the claims that— i imagine that a lot of the claims that you've made there are claims that you've made there bbsbebeb— claims that you've made there are disputed and— claims that you've made there are disputed and the people bwebeb— are disputed and the people involved would— are disputed and the people involved would take a different wew— involved would take a different view, etcetera.— involved would take a different view, etcetera. look, can i just esb— view, etcetera. look, can i just esb e— view, etcetera. look, can i just esb e sbbgbbbw— view, etcetera. look, can i just ask a slightly broader question, wbeb— ask a slightly broader question, wbbblwe— ask a slightly broader question, which-we haven't— ask a slightly broader question, which we haven't got excess which is we haven't got excess beems.— which is we haven't got excess beems-webb— which is we haven't got excessi deaths.-well,-you deaths. okay well, why do you beeb— deaths. okay well, why do you beeb es— deaths. okay well, why do you feel as though _ deaths. okay well, why do you feel as though why do you feel as feel as though why do you feel es bbeegb— feel as though why do you feel as though people— feel as though why do you feel as though people aren't willing to as though people aren't willing be sbeb— as though people aren't willing to stick their— as though people aren't willing to stick their head above the berebeb— to stick their head above the berebeb emb— to stick their head above the berebeb emb sew— to stick their head above the parapet and say what you're saying?— parapet and say what you're sewbgb bb— parapet and say what you're sewbgb rb es— parapet and say what you're saying? if as in— parapet and say what you're saying? if as in your view, all of saying? if as in your view, all eb bbe— saying? if as in your view, all of the evidence— saying? if as in your view, all of the evidence is— saying? if as in your view, all of the evidence is there why why do of the evidence is there why why be wee — of the evidence is there why why be wee bbbb— of the evidence is there why why do you think that?— of the evidence is there why why do you think that? is that your the evidence— do you think that? is that your the evidence is— do you think that? is that your the evidence is there? t/rtner �*vtb�*rt;cc the evidence is there? yes. well webb— the evidence is there? yes. well webb. mw— the evidence is there? yes. well well, my degree was in biological sciences at nottingham university a long time ago. and it was in biological sciences with a subsidiary in the first degree
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in biochemistry and i specialised in genetics and behaviour and my final dissertation was on on viruses and viroids. i probably have more qualifications than most in that place to, to, to look at the data. patrick in the, in the house behind us, we're traditionally supposed to speak without or what without fear or favour. what i will tell you is that is not true. there is a lot of fear and there's a lot of favour in that house and that's not democratic and to speak out for the and i try to speak out for the people i'd well, if and i try to speak out for the people i'd well , if that's people and i'd well, if that's the end of my career, so be it. well, andrew, look , thank you well, andrew, look, thank you verve— well, andrew, look, thank you verve werw— well, andrew, look, thank you verve eerw meeb— well, andrew, look, thank you very, very much for your time bebew— very, very much for your time bebew. bwe— very, very much for your time bebew. r-we geb— very, very much for your time today. i've got i've just bebebe:— today. i've got i've just guicklve .— today. i've got i've just quickly, i mean, what is the bbem— quickly, i mean, what is the bbem gebg— quickly, i mean, what is the plan going forward? are you ebbeebbg— plan going forward? are you appealing this?— plan going forward? are you appealing this? are you planning on appealing this? are you planning em brwbg— appealing this? are you planning em brwbg be— appealing this? are you planning on trying to rejoin— appealing this? are you planning on trying to rejoin the conservative - on trying to rejoin the conservative party for election 7 conservative party for election b bwe— conservative party for election b be bsseeb— conservative party for election b be bsseeb .— conservative party for election ? i've issued . i— conservative party for election ? i've issued . i will be ? i've issued. i will be sbembbg— ? i've issued. i will be standing at- ? i've issued. i will be standing at the next general ebeebem. — standing at the next general election. it's— standing at the next general election. it's only- standing at the next general election. c : standing at the next general election. : election. it's only leaked out today. i wasn't planning on this. we've released the documents that we've sent to
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cchq as a rebuttal to their their expulsion. it's completely spunous. their expulsion. it's completely spurious . patrick. i didn't even spurious. patrick. i didn't even have the codes to the twitter account. i've never had them in in any time that i've. i've been an mp . they're not interested. an mp. they're not interested. the party aren't interested in that. quite honestly. it was a kangaroo court and they got the decision they wanted one more on that one. i'm getting a few emebbs— that one. i'm getting a few emebbs b— that one. i'm getting a few emails in about— i'm getting a few emails in about this, which is bbeb— emails in about this, which is that although— emails in about this, which is that although for— emails in about this, which is that although for radically bbbberemb— that although for radically different issues, it must be serb— different issues, it must be sebb: abbre— different issues, it must be said, andre, for— different issues, it must be said, andre, for radically bbbberemb— said, andre, for radically different issues, people like, said, andre, for radically dierxampleies, people like, said, andre, for radically dierxample ,ts, people like, said, andre, for radically dierxample , dominica like, said, andre, for radically dierxample , dominic raab. said, andre, for radically dierxample , dominic raab going for example, dominic raab going reeembbw— for example, dominic raab going reeembbw beebbe— for example, dominic raab going recently people are concerned bbeb— recently people are concerned bbeb-mbgbb— recently people are concerned bbeb-mbgbb be- recently people are concerned that-might be a- recently people are concerned that might be a little bit that there might be a little bit of that there might be a little bit eb e— that there might be a little bit eb e besb— that there might be a little bit of a push against— that there might be a little bit of a push against brexit jitters in of a push against brexit jitters b e— of a push against brexit jitters in a sense. would— of a push against brexit jitters in a sense. would you stand by mebe— in a sense. would you stand by bbebb bs— in a sense. would you stand by bbebb bs bbbs— in a sense. would you stand by that? is this a— in a sense. would you stand by that? is this a lot— in a sense. would you stand by that? is this a lot of people? ambrew— that? is this a lot of people? andrew look,— that? is this a lot of people? andrew look, i've— that? is this a lot of people? andrew look, i've got to be bemesb— andrew look, i've got to be honest with— andrew look, i've got to be honest with you. - andrew look, i've got to be honest with you. a lot of people wbb— honest with you. a lot of people will massively— honest with you. a lot of people will massively disagree with wbeb— will massively disagree with wbeb weee— will massively disagree with what you're saying, including emb—ebb- what you're saying, including and _will disputei and i know you will dispute bbbs— and i know you will dispute brs-wbeb— and i know you will dispute this,-what i've- and i know you will dispute this, what i've what i've this, but what i've what i've mebbeb— this, but what i've what i've noticed medical— this, but what i've what i've noticed medical community, rbgbbb— noticed medical community, rbgbbblb-ve— noticed medical community, rbgbbblb-ve-be- noticed medical community, right? i've to say that right? so i've got to say that bbeb— right? so i've got to say that bbeb-bbeegb— right? so i've got to say that that though, there any that said, though, is there any sense - perspective i that said, though, is there any sense perspective that sense from your perspective that this sense from your perspective that brs—besb— sense from your perspective that this—just about- sense from your perspective that this—just about the i this maybe isn't just about the bbbgs— this maybe isn't just about the bbbgs bbeb— this maybe isn't just about the things that you've said there? is things that you've said there? bs-mewbe— things that you've said there? is maybe slightly bigger is this maybe a slightly bigger bbebere— is this maybe a slightly bigger
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bebebe-weere— picture that you're not necessarily— picture that you're noti necessarily-of picture that you're not- necessarily-of person necessarily the kind of person bbeb— necessarily the kind of person that-conservative - necessarily the kind of person that conservative party want that the conservative party want in —berwerbb- that the conservative party want b—berwerbe bs- in it as it moves forward? is bbeb— in it as it moves forward? is bbeb-bbeb— in it as it moves forward? is bbeblbbeb—weei that is that something you ber— that is that something you wonder-think- that is that something you- wonder-think anybody wonder about? i think anybody wbe— wonder about? i think anybody who challenges— wonder about? i think anybody who challenges the official merrebeb— who challenges the official narrative on _ who challenges the official narrative on anything is now ember— narrative on anything is now under pressure. _ narrative on anything is now under pressure. ”rt:rt; under pressure. that is not free speech. and it's certainly not not democracy. i would ask you to have a look at the list of mps who voted against the government and voted against plan b in christmas 21 december 21st, and i was one of those. i've looked at that list of conservative mps who voted against the government about the masks, the mandates on the nhs and the and the additional lockdowns which were all proven to be unnecessary because of omicron of the omicron variant . omicron of the omicron variant. look of those have look how many of those have either suspended or or either been suspended or or attacked by by our own party. that's quite considerable. that's quite considerable. that's what it's all about. i spoke out a long time ago about these measures. the whole the whole pandemic response has led to a huge amount of problems, unnecessary damage to our economy , to the well—being of economy, to the well—being of young people, and their mental health. and it's still going on.
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and we admit we've made and until we admit we've made mistakes, government's made mistakes, the government's made mistakes, the government's made mistakes not to put mistakes, we're not going to put anything and certainly anything right. and we certainly shouldn't more shouldn't be giving any more powers take powers to the who. to take over our laws. and the administration of pandemics. they've got an appalling track record, we should be we record, and we should be we should be steering well clear of any of that. it's the absolute antithesis brexit taking back antithesis of brexit taking back control. oh, andrew, thank you very much for your time. i appreciate you talking- appreciate you talking to us, esbebebbw— appreciate you talking to us, esbebebbw b— appreciate you talking to us, especially in light of the reem— especially in light of the recent news— especially in light of the recent news that you've been esbebbeb — recent news that you've been expelled from _ recent news that you've been expelled from the conservative berbw. — expelled from the conservative berbw. bbeb— expelled from the conservative berbw. bbeb bs— expelled from the conservative party. that is andrew bridgen bbere:— party. that is andrew bridgen bbere-bes— party. that is andrew bridgen there,-has-on- party. that is andrew bridgen there, has on the party. that is andrew bridgen. there,-has-on the line there, who has been on the line bbere— there, who has been on the line bbere ber— there, who has been on the line there for-about— there, who has been on the line there for- about 20- there for about about 20 mbebes— there for about about 20 minutes-we. there for about about 20 minutes. we go. there for about about 20- minutes.-we go. now minutes. so there we go. now beeb:— minutes. so there we go. now look, obviously,— minutes. so there we go. now look, obviously, andrew's made a lot look, obviously, andrew's made a beb eb— look, obviously, andrew's made a beb eb ebebms— look, obviously, andrew's made a lot of claims they're impossible to lot of claims they're impossible be—bbem:— lot of claims they're impossiblei to _them,-single lot of claims they're impossiblei toiof-them,-single lot of claims they're impossible to of them them, single lot of claims they're impossible to of them with in, single lot of claims they're impossible to of them with a, single lot of claims they're impossible to of them with a fine single lot of claims they're impossible to of them with a fine toothgle one of them with a fine tooth eemb— one of them with a fine tooth eemb ebeeb— one of them with a fine tooth comb about the _ one of them with a fine tooth comb about the efficacy and the sebebw— comb about the efficacy and the safety-vaccines— comb about the efficacy and the safety .vaccines-the - comb about the efficacy and the safety vaccines the way safety of vaccines and the way in -bbew-re — safety of vaccines and the way in they're regulated in which they're regulated and bbeb:— indeed, the medical and scientific— indeed, the medical and scientific data- indeed, the medical and scientific data behind them all. it scientific data behind them all. bb bs— scientific data behind them all. b is bmberbemb— scientific data behind them all. it is important to— scientific data behind them all. it is important to say that the ebwee— it is important to say that the advice remains— it is important to say that the advice remains that vaccines are bergebw— advice remains that vaccines are bergebw sebe— advice remains that vaccines are bergebw sebe emb— advice remains that vaccines are bergebw sebe emb e— advice remains that vaccines are largely safe and a lot a lot of bbe— largely safe and a lot a lot of bbe ebebms— largely safe and a lot a lot of the claims that— largely safe and a lot a lot of the claims that andrew made will no the claims that andrew made will me beebb— the claims that andrew made will me beebb be—
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the claims that andrew made will no doubt be disputed by some of the no doubt be disputed by some of bbe beebbe— no doubt be disputed by some of bbe beebbe wbe— no doubt be disputed by some of the people who he's made them egebsb— the people who he's made them egebsb. beb— the people who he's made them against. but there— the people who he's made them against. but there we go anyway. gb against. but there we go anyway. be views— against. but there we go anyway. be vbews eb— against. but there we go anyway. be vbews eb bb— against. but there we go anyway. gb views at gb news .uk. that ambrew— gb views at gb news .uk. that was andrew bridgen there. right. bbew. — was andrew bridgen there. right. bbew. se— was andrew bridgen there. right. obew. se mewmg— was andrew bridgen there. right. okay. so moving on from that, be— okay. so moving on from that, bbe bbsb— okay. so moving on from that, the first flights— okay. so moving on from that, the first flights carrying brbbsb— the first flights carrying british citizens from has british citizens from sudan has bembeb— british citizens from sudan has landed-stansted— british citizens from sudan has landed stansted airport. i am landed at stansted airport. i am bebrbb— landed at stansted airport. i am patrick christys— landed at stansted airport. i am patrick christys on— landed at stansted airport. i am patrick christys on gb news and we are britain's—
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told you're listening to gb news bebbe— told you're listening to gb news bebbe .— told you're listening to gb news bebbe . bbgbb— radio. right t t radio. right welcome back, everybody. now to the sudan crisis. and there's a big development in the last half houn development in the last half hour. suella braverman has said that there are no plans to create safe and legal routes for sudan refugees . these are not sudan refugees. these are not british passport holders. many of whom are already on planes back, some of whom have already touched about touched down. this is about south sudanese refugees and whether or not we will create safe and legal passages for them. here's a clip of her. we have no plans to do that.- we have no plans to do that. our beees— have no plans to do that. our bees bbsb— have no plans to do that. our focus, first and— have no plans to do that. our focus, first and foremost out rbgbb— focus, first and foremost out rbgbb mew— focus, first and foremost out rbgbb emb— focus, first and foremost out right now and bearing in mind
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bbbs— right now and bearing in mind bbbs bs— right now and bearing in mind bbbs is e— right now and bearing in mind this is a fast— right now and bearing in mind this is a fast moving situation emb— this is a fast moving situation emb e— this is a fast moving situation emb e eembbex— this is a fast moving situation and a complex situation is to sebberb— and a complex situation is to sebberb brbbsb— and a complex situation is to support british nationals and bbeb— support british nationals and their dependents. yes cites/beg their dependents. yes okay. so bbere— their dependents. yes okay. so bbere we— their dependents. yes okay. so bbere we ge. — their dependents. yes okay. so bbere we ge. se— their dependents. yes okay. so there we go. so it comes after there we go. so it comes after the first flight carrying british nationals evacuated from the country, landed at stansted airport. flights airport. a total of four flights carrying people now carrying 301. people have now left sudan. another raf plane was due to take off from an airstrip near the capital of khartoum. this afternoon. let's get more on this with who else, ladies and gentlemen . it's got ladies and gentlemen. it's got to be, hasn't it? it's immigration lawyer up singh, haj hajib. how are you? it's only 20 minutes since the last time i saw about as good as saw you. yeah, about as good as wesberbew— saw you. yeah, about as good as wesberbew. — saw you. yeah, about as good as wesberbew. beeb.— saw you. yeah, about as good as yesterday . yeah, jolly- yeah, about as good as yesterday. “cr?" g: yesterday. yeah, jolly good. well, fantastic . right. okay, so well, fantastic. right. okay, so how do react to this how do you react to this breaking that we that breaking news that we had that suella braverman, our home secretary be secretary says she will be creating no safe or legal creating no more safe or legal routes to anyone looking to free sudan apart from british nationals who are already on planes. we hope. well, it's in sort planes. we hope. well, it's in serb eb— planes. we hope. well, it's in serb eb bbe— planes. we hope. well, it's in sort of line with— planes. we hope. well, it's in sort of line with the- we; well, it's in sort of line with the current bebbew— sort of line with the current bebbew eb— sort of line with the current policy of what— sort of line with the current policy of what she's been esbeesbg— policy of what she's been espousing and- policy of what she's been espousing and putting out . espousing and putting out. but bbeb— espousing and putting out. but bbeb .— espousing and putting out. but bbeb r sebbese—
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espousing and putting out. but then i suppose inevitably , we're then i suppose inevitably, we're going to have to be for prepared a wave of migrants from sudan coming on small boats. and we'll have to deal with them accordingly. um, if you're not going to provide any safe routes, then people are going to use the only route available and the people smugglers are probably using that probably already using that sound of suella braverman sound bite of suella braverman to sell it to people saying, well, hold on, they're not going to let you in. they're not going to let you in. they're not going to create a visa for you. if you want to get into— to create a visa for you. if you want to get into the- to create a visa for you. if you want to get into the uk,- t . if you want to get into the uk, we can erewbe— want to get into the uk, we can erewbe wee— want to get into the uk, we can provide you that— want to get into the uk, we can provide you that route. c provide you that route. it's going— provide you that route. it's gebg be— provide you that route. it's gebg be eesb— provide you that route. it's going to cost x— provide you that route. it's going to cost x amount of money and there you go. there, there already the of already there of the value of the product have gone up. the product will have gone up. okay. i mean, do you think that reebbsbeebbw— okay. i mean, do you think that realistically, though, we do bewe — realistically, though, we do- beve —rbgbbsb have some kind of moral rights? i have some kind of moral rights? . meeb— have some kind of moral rights? . .— have some kind of moral rights? i mean, i could— have some kind of moral rights? i mean, i could understand it ebb— i mean, i could understand it with afghanistan— i mean, i could understand it with afghanistan an with afghanistan to an extent. i eeebb— with afghanistan to an extent. i could understand— with afghanistan to an extent. i could understand it with ukraine for could understand it with ukraine berlexbemb.— could understand it with ukraine for-extentlcan— could understand it with ukraine for extent. can understand for an extent. i can understand it for an extent. i can understand bb—bemg— for an extent. i can understand bb—bemg bbe- for an extent. i can understand bb—bemg bbeb b- for an extent. i can understand it kong erg i mean, it with hong kong erg i mean, bebeb— it with hong kong erg i mean, bebem-bees— it with hong kong erg i mean, sudan-does the- it with hong kong erg i mean, sudan does the does the sudan does does the does the brbbsb— sudan does does the does the british taxpayer— sudan does does the does the british taxpayer have british taxpayer really have a mereb—bew- moral obligation to pay for eswbem— moral obligation to pay for eswbemlbbe— moral obligation to pay for asylum the sudanese? �*vtb�*rt;cc asylum for the sudanese? well, web-— asylum for the sudanese? well, we-in sudan. and- asylum for the sudanese? well, we-in sudan. and so. asylum for the sudanese? well,l we-in sudan. and so you we did rule in sudan. and so you know, we've ruled— we did rule in sudan. and so you know, we've ruled there- r: r: :�* 3" and so you know, we've ruled there and we ereebeb— know, we've ruled there and we ereebeb bbe — know, we've ruled there and we created the partition. so we gewe— created the partition. so we gewe-berbb— created the partition. so we gewe-berbb eb— created the partition. so we gave-north of it- created the partition. so we gave north of it to the
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gave the north of it to the bbesbm — gave the north of it to the muslim sudanese and we and the seem— muslim sudanese and we and the seebb eb— muslim sudanese and we and the seebb eb bb— muslim sudanese and we and the south of it was— muslim sudanese and we and the south of it was given to the ebrbsbems. — south of it was given to the christians. and— south of it was given to the christians. and been christians. and there's been a eembbbeb— christians. and there's been a conflict ever— christians. and there's been a conflict ever since _ christians. and there's been a conflict ever since we did the bbe— conflict ever since we did the same. the british— conflict ever since we did the same. the british empire did the b bbre— same. the british empire did the same in india when we created bebbsbem— same in india when we created bebbsbem emb— same in india when we created pakistan and gave— same in india when we created pakistan and gave that to the bbesbms— pakistan and gave that to the bbesbms emb— pakistan and gave that to the muslims and india to the hindus. and muslims and india to the hindus. amb bbere-s— muslims and india to the hindus. and there's been— muslims and india to the hindus. and there's been a— muslims and india to the hindus. and there's been a conflict ever sbee— and there's been a conflict ever since between _ and there's been a conflict ever since between the— and there's been a conflict ever since between the two countries. so, since between the two countries. se: .— since between the two countries. se: . beem— since between the two countries. se: . we— since between the two countries. se: . we be— since between the two countries. so, i mean, we do have some sort of so, i mean, we do have some sort eb mereb— so, i mean, we do have some sort of moral obligation,— so, i mean, we do have some sort of moral obligation, but not, i weebb— of moral obligation, but not, i weebb save— of moral obligation, but not, i would say, more— of moral obligation, but not, i would say, more than what anyone ebse— would say, more than what anyone ebse bes.— would say, more than what anyone else has. germany— would say, more than what anyone else has. germany will once egeb— else has. germany will once egeb bebe— else has. germany will once again take the— else has. germany will once again take the brunt of it. sbeb— again take the brunt of it. seem emb— again take the brunt of it. spain and italy, they will spain and italy, and they will bebe— spain and italy, and they will bebe bbe— spain and italy, and they will take the most— spain and italy, and they will take the most of— spain and italy, and they will take the most of the migrants emb— take the most of the migrants and proportionately, we should bebe— and proportionately, we should bebe-meeb— and proportionately, we should bebe-meeb ,— and proportionately, we should take-mean , we- and proportionately, we should take mean , we didn't rule take some i mean, we didn't rule in take some i mean, we didn't rule mse-— take some i mean, we didn't rule bbse- wbw— take some i mean, we didn't rule bbse- wbw ere— take some i mean, we didn't rule bbse- wbw we- take some i mean, we didn't rule in so why are we taking in ukraine so why are we taking you— in ukraine so why are we taking wee bmew— in ukraine so why are we taking wee bmew: emb— in ukraine so why are we taking you know, and we— in ukraine so why are we taking you know, and we didn't create bbeb— you know, and we didn't create that conflict. _ you know, and we didn't create that conflict. there was that we bebbeb — that conflict. there was that we helped contribute _ that conflict. there was that we helped contribute towards them gebbbg— helped contribute towards them gebbbg bb— helped contribute towards them gebbbg rbb eb— helped contribute towards them getting rid of nuclear getting rid of their nuclear beberremb— getting rid of their nuclear beberremb . — getting rid of their nuclear deterrent . and- getting rid of their nuclear deterrent . ' r: ”c; getting rid of their nuclear deterrent. r: deterrent. and therefore, that maybe more likely for maybe made it more likely for vladimir putin roll the tanks vladimir putin to roll the tanks on is there not a risk that on in. is there not a risk that if we apply that argument to you everywhere, that britain used to have some something have at some point something somewhere that? somewhere to do with that? frankly, we might end up becoming a sponge for the world and of our problems ? well,
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and all of our problems? well, we can't say we're proud- re“r: 7 well, we can't say we're proud of the brbbsb— we can't say we're proud of the brbbsb-beb— we can't say we're proud of the british-but only- we can't say we're proud of the british but only when british empire, but only when it serbs— british empire, but only when it serbsmee-m— british empire, but only when it suits-mean, we've- british empire, but only when it suits mean, we've got suits us. so, i mean, we've got to suits us. so, i mean, we've got be bebe— suits us. so, i mean, we've got be bebe bbe— suits us. so, i mean, we've got to take the good— suits us. so, i mean, we've got to take the good with the bad emb— to take the good with the bad emb beb-s— to take the good with the bad and let's face— to take the good with the bad and let's face it,— to take the good with the bad and let's face it, the good that the and let's face it, the good that bbe brbbsb— and let's face it, the good that the british empire— and let's face it, the good that the british empire did, they ebse— the british empire did, they ebse-e— the british empire did, they ebse-e beb— the british empire did, they also-a lot of— the british empire did, they also a lot of bad. and that also did a lot of bad. and that bebebes— also did a lot of bad. and that includes wiping— also did a lot of bad. and that includes wiping out a lot of beebe— includes wiping out a lot of beebbe, bbbmg— includes wiping out a lot of people, killing a lot of people emb— people, killing a lot of people emb beebbg— people, killing a lot of people and looting resources from ereerbbbes— and looting resources from countries. now,— and looting resources from countries. now, if we stayed in a countries. now, if we stayed in eeeembrw— countries. now, if we stayed in a country, looted— countries. now, if we stayed in a country, looted its resources, emb— a country, looted its resources, emb-bb— a country, looted its resources, emb-b eb— a country, looted its resources, emb-b eb emb- a country, looted its resources, and-it up and theni and then split it up and then besbeebbw— and then split it up and then besbeebbw save— and then split it up and then basically say, right, use lot bbe— basically say, right, use lot bbe bbgbb— basically say, right, use lot fire fight each— basically say, right, use lot fire fight each other for the resb— fire fight each other for the resb eb— fire fight each other for the resb eb bbe — fire fight each other for the rest of the resources, we've got mebbbg— rest of the resources, we've got mebbbg be — rest of the resources, we've got nothing to .with _ rest of the resources, we've got nothing to.with it.- rest of the resources, we've got nothing to with it. gulf that nothing to do with it. gulf that sebs— nothing to do with it. gulf that seembs—be- nothing to do with it. gulf that seembs—be eave- sounds a bit callous to say, webb— sounds a bit callous to say, web-em— sounds a bit callous to say, webb-em we— sounds a bit callous to say, well-on we if- sounds a bit callous to say, well-on we if we- sounds a bit callous to say, well on we if we can step well hold on we if we can step in well hold on we if we can step b emb— well hold on we if we can step b emb ebber— well hold on we if we can step in and offer some— well hold on we if we can step in and offer some sort of help, be— in and offer some sort of help, be boo— in and offer some sort of help, even to 100 people or 200 beebe— even to 100 people or 200 beebbe, bbeb— even to 100 people or 200 people, that we're not going to do people, that we're not going to be se— people, that we're not going to do so, whereas— people, that we're not going to do so, whereas we've offered the bebb — do so, whereas we've offered the bebb be — do so, whereas we've offered the same help to somewhere like bbrebe— same help to somewhere like bbrebe ber— same help to somewhere like ukraine for what,— same help to somewhere like ukraine for what, thousands of beebe— ukraine for what, thousands of beebbe, beebb:— ukraine for what, thousands of people, 20,000, 30,000, 40,000 beebe— people, 20,000, 30,000, 40,000 beebbe. se— people, 20,000, 30,000, 40,000 beebbe. se wee— people, 20,000, 30,000, 40,000 people. so you know, we're we've eembrbbebeb— people. so you know, we're we've contributed to _ people. so you know, we're we've contributed to a— people. so you know, we're we've contributed to a country and use bbeb— contributed to a country and use their resources— contributed to a country and use their resources and— contributed to a country and use their resources and in effect bebeb— their resources and in effect bebem sbebb— their resources and in effect taken stuff that— their resources and in effect taken stuff that belonged to bbeb— taken stuff that belonged to bbeb eeembrw— taken stuff that belonged to bbeb eeembrw ,— taken stuff that belonged to that country , which we weren't that country, which we weren't embbbeb — that country, which we weren't embbbeb be — that country, which we weren't entitled to then— that country, which we weren't entitled to then it— that country, which we weren't entitled to then it does make gag,— entitled to then it does make sense that, you— entitled to then it does make sense that, you know, that we sbeebb — sense that, you know, that we sbeebb bebe— sense that, you know, that we should take offer— sense that, you know, that we should take offer some sort of
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rebege— should take offer some sort of rebege ,— should take offer some sort of rebege : eb— should take offer some sort of refuge , at least— should take offer some sort of refuge , at least offer a safe refuge, at least offer a safe reebe— refuge, at least offer a safe reebe be— refuge, at least offer a safe reebe be sew— refuge, at least offer a safe route to say we're not going to ebber— route to say we're not going to ebber emw— route to say we're not going to offer any visas— route to say we're not going to offer any visas to— route to say we're not going to offer any visas to them. you bmew— offer any visas to them. you know, we're not— offer any visas to them. you know, we're not going to offer emwwbere— know, we're not going to offer emwwbere be— know, we're not going to offer anywhere to apply then then gebg— anywhere to apply then then gebg be— anywhere to apply then then we're going to can't moan we're going to we can't moan wbem— we're going to we can't moan wbem-eb— we're going to we can't moan wbem-eb eb- we're going to we can't moan wbem-eb eb eer- we're going to we can't moan. when-up at our shores when they turn up at our shores bbem.— then. patrick that's what mew-re— then. patrick that's what bbew-re-be. i then. patrick that's what- they're - do. people they're going to do. people a lot they're going to do. people a beb eb— they're going to do. people a lot of people would say there are juicy only really applies for those who have got british passports. the british citizens, i else. i mean, i mean everybody else. i mean, you we had the last to you know, we had the last to help those as well. we're the last to help those as well. we're the besb be bebb — help those as well. we're the last to help those. _ help those as well. we're the last to help those. i- we're the last to help those. i mean, the sbemebeb— last to help those. i mean, the shameful thing— last to help those. i mean, the shameful thing is— last to help those. i mean, the shameful thing is that the bebeb— shameful thing is that the bremeb emb— shameful thing is that the french and the— shameful thing is that the french and the germans actually eweeeebeb— french and the germans actually evacuated _citizensl evacuated more british citizens bbem— evacuated more british citizens bbem-beve— evacuated more british citizens than.have.date.- evacuated more british citizens than have date. even india than we have to date. even india memegeb— than we have to date. even india managed-evacuate— than we have to date. even india managed evacuate citizens managed to evacuate 300 citizens bebere— managed to evacuate 300 citizens bebere we— managed to evacuate 300 citizens bebere we semb— managed to evacuate 300 citizens before we sent this— managed to evacuate 300 citizens before we sent this plane. and so before we sent this plane. and se booe— before we sent this plane. and so our 4000 british citizens sbeeb— so our 4000 british citizens were stuck there— so our 4000 british citizens were stuck there thinking what to were stuck there thinking what be be. — were stuck there thinking what be be. amb— were stuck there thinking what to do. and the— were stuck there thinking what to do. and the advice for them was— to do. and the advice for them besb— to do. and the advice for them tesb sbew— to do. and the advice for them was, just stay put.— to do. and the advice for them was, just stay put. don't go out . amb— was, just stay put. don't go out . emb-beeb:— was, just stay put. don't go out . and .fact, think— was, just stay put. don't go out . and fact, think ben . and in fact, think ben bebbeees— . and in fact, think ben wallaces advice why don't wallaces advice was why don't you— wallaces advice was why don't wee-beb — wallaces advice was why don't wee-beb be— wallaces advice was why don't you-taxi to the- wallaces advice was why don't you taxi to the base ? so, you grab a taxi to the base? so, you— you grab a taxi to the base? so, wee bmew— you grab a taxi to the base? so, wee bmew, greeb— you grab a taxi to the base? so, you know, great reasoning in a bem— you know, great reasoning in a war torn zone where there's bebbebs— war torn zone where there's bullets flying _ war torn zone where there's bullets flying all over the bee — bullets flying all over the bee beb-b— bullets flying all over the place. don't worry. hallelujah bm— place. don't worry. hallelujah b-m sere— place. don't worry. hallelujah b-m bbe— place. don't worry. hallelujah i'm sure the taxi _ place. don't worry. hallelujah i'm sure the taxi driver will bebe — i'm sure the taxi driver will bebe wee— i'm sure the taxi driver will take you there. _ i'm sure the taxi driver will take you there. risk free to the sbbe — take you there. risk free to the sbbe .— take you there. risk free to the sbbe . se — take you there. risk free to the sbbe . se tbs.— take you there. risk free to the site . so it's. it's— take you there. risk free to the
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site . so it's. it's not site. so it's. it's not realistic— site. so it's. it's not realistic .- site. so it's. it's not realistic. i- site. so it's. it's not realistic. i mean, we're site. so it's. it's not— realistic. i mean, we're talking ebeeb— realistic. i mean, we're talking ebeeb bebbbg— realistic. i mean, we're talking about helping our— realistic. i mean, we're talking about helping our own. we can't be— about helping our own. we can't be bbeb.— about helping our own. we can't even do that. and— about helping our own. we can't even do that. and this isn't the bbsb— even do that. and this isn't the bbsb bme— even do that. and this isn't the bbsb bme: bs— even do that. and this isn't the first time, is it?— even do that. and this isn't the first time, is it? we— even do that. and this isn't the first time, is it? we didn't bebb— first time, is it? we didn't bebb eer— first time, is it? we didn't help our british citizens. there is e— help our british citizens. there is a _afghanistan - help our british citizens. there is a afghanistan quick is a case. afghanistan quick emeegb— is a case. afghanistan quick emeegb . — is a case. afghanistan quick enough . would- is a case. afghanistan quick enough . : c:�*rt;trt; is a case. afghanistan quick enough . certrrt; is a case. afghanistan quick enough . enough. would there be a case hard enough just to you hard enough just to say, you know, look, you go to sudan, know, look, if you go to sudan, you know the risks you. yeah, well, that's that's— you know the risks you. yeah, well, that's that's fine. - t yeah, well, that's that's fine. but bbere-s—ewml there's 4000 of our own bbbbemebs— there's 4000 of our own diplomats in— there's 4000 of our own diplomats in there . there's 4000 diplomats in there. there's 4000 of diplomats in there. there's 4000 eb eer— diplomats in there. there's 4000 of our own citizens— diplomats in there. there's 4000 of our own citizens in there. we are of our own citizens in there. we gbebeb— of our own citizens in there. we are global._britishi are global. britain and british beebbe— are global. britain and british beebbe-ebb— are global. britain and british people all around the people work all around the werbb— people work all around the werbb. amb— people work all around the world. and if— people work all around the world. and if you're a british ebeeb:— world. and if you're a british ebbbem tbs— world. and if you're a british citizen, it's our— world. and if you're a british citizen, it's our duty to brebeeb— citizen, it's our duty to protect them. - citizen, it's our duty to- protect them. _where citizen, it's our duty to- protect them.-where we protect them. but also where we rebeb — protect them. but also where we rebeb ,— protect them. but also where we once ruled , we— protect them. but also where we once ruled , we should think if once ruled, we should think if wewe-eeembrw- once ruled, we should think if eeeee-brw ,- once ruled, we should think if. we've _country , totally we've used that country, totally brebeb— we've used that country, totally brebebleb— we've used that country, totally drained .of its _ we've used that country, totally drained of its resources , do drained it of its resources, do we beve— drained it of its resources, do we bebe e— drained it of its resources, do we have a moral— drained it of its resources, do we have a moral obligation, then 7 we have a moral obligation, then b -beb— we have a moral obligation, then b -beb bbeb— we have a moral obligation, then b -bebbbeb we- we have a moral obligation, then ? _but then we start. ? all right. but then we start getting into reparations the getting into reparations to the romans and vikings romans and the vikings territory, we? to be fair, territory, don't we? to be fair, look, job. thank you very, look, our job. thank you very, very much. thank you. we're going to leave there. going to have to leave it there. it'll be just tomorrow. i'll talk to you. rajiv singh, bungalow, lawyer. talk to you. rajiv singh, bungenow. lawyer. talk to you. rajiv singh, bungenow. loads lawyer. talk to you. rajiv singh, bungenow. loads more lawyer. talk to you. rajiv singh, bungenow. loads more to wyer. talk to you. rajiv singh, bungenow. loads more to come. right now. loads more to come. between we will between now and 5:00. we will discuss these very controversial comments of comments from the bank of england's chief economist, huw pill, we just accept pill, that we should just accept that we will that we're poorer and we will
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talk a fascinating talk about a fascinating article that says more and more people are choosing to celibate. but are choosing to be celibate. but first is your latest headlines with last . with bolly—middle. last. patrick thank you. good ebbermeem — patrick thank you. good afternoon to _ patrick thank you. good afternoon to you. the headlines bbbs— afternoon to you. the headlines bbbs beer.— afternoon to you. the headlines this hour. the— afternoon to you. the headlines this hour. the home secretary sews— this hour. the home secretary sews bbere— this hour. the home secretary sews bbere ere— this hour. the home secretary says there are no— this hour. the home secretary says there are no plans to ereebe— says there are no plans to create safe— says there are no plans to create safe routes out of sudan for create safe routes out of sudan ber rebegees— create safe routes out of sudan ber rebegees .— create safe routes out of sudan for refugees . says— create safe routes out of sudan for refugees . says the first for refugees. says the first bbbgbb— for refugees. says the first bbbgbb eerrwbg— for refugees. says the first flight carrying british nationals— flight carrying british nationals out of the country has bembeb— nationals out of the country has bembeb b— nationals out of the country has landed in the— nationals out of the country has landed in the uk— nationals out of the country has landed in the uk this afternoon at landed in the uk this afternoon eb sbemsbeb— landed in the uk this afternoon eb bbemsbeb .— landed in the uk this afternoon at stansted . more— landed in the uk this afternoon at stansted . more than 300 at stansted. more than 300 beebbe— at stansted. more than 300 beebbe beve— at stansted. more than 300 people have been evacuated from the people have been evacuated from bbe eeembrw— people have been evacuated from bbe eeembrw se— people have been evacuated from the country so far— people have been evacuated from the country so far and it's esbmebeb— the country so far and it's estimated around 4000 people sbeeb— estimated around 4000 people were stuck there— estimated around 4000 people were stuck there .— estimated around 4000 people were stuck there . hundreds of were stuck there. hundreds of beebbe— were stuck there. hundreds of beebbe beve— were stuck there. hundreds of people have been killed since bbgbbbg— people have been killed since fighting between military beebems— fighting between military factions broke out more than two weebs— factions broke out more than two weebs ege.— factions broke out more than two weebs ege. bbe— factions broke out more than two weeks ago. the prime minister bes— weeks ago. the prime minister bes reb— weeks ago. the prime minister has warned of— weeks ago. the prime minister has warned of a— weeks ago. the prime minister has warned of a critical 24 beers— has warned of a critical 24 hours now as— has warned of a critical 24 hours now as the military races to rescue people— hours now as the military races to rescue people before the 72 beer— to rescue people before the 72 hour ceasefire _ to rescue people before the 72 hour ceasefire ends on suella breerme sews— hour ceasefire ends on suella braverman says the government's brberbbw— braverman says the government's brberbbw bs— braverman says the government's brberbbw bs reseebg— braverman says the government's priority is rescuing brits . and priority is rescuing brits. and the priority is rescuing brits. and bbe ebb— priority is rescuing brits. and the mp andrew— priority is rescuing brits. and the mp andrew bridgen, has sbebem— the mp andrew bridgen, has sbebem be— the mp andrew bridgen, has sbebem be be— the mp andrew bridgen, has spoken to gb news today, saying be-s—
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spoken to gb news today, saying be-s werw— spoken to gb news today, saying he's very disappointed the conservative— he's very disappointed the conservative party has leaked bebebs— conservative party has leaked bebebbs eb— conservative party has leaked details of his— conservative party has leaked details of his expulsion. he was ebbebbeb— details of his expulsion. he was esbebbeb brem — details of his expulsion. he was expelled from the— details of his expulsion. he was expelled from the party on the 12th— expelled from the party on the em eb— expelled from the party on the em eb abrb— expelled from the party on the 12th of april on— 12th of april on a recommendation from a bbsebbbberw— recommendation from a disciplinary panel. recommendation from a disciplinary panel . that's after disciplinary panel. that's after he questioned— disciplinary panel. that's after he questioned the efficacy of eovbb— he questioned the efficacy of com bb— he questioned the efficacy of covid 19 vaccines and retweeted a covid 19 vaccines and retweeted eeemerrsem— covid 19 vaccines and retweeted a comparison with— covid 19 vaccines and retweeted a comparison with the holocaust . ebbbeeb— a comparison with the holocaust . clinical trials— a comparison with the holocaust . clinical trials have showed all . clinical trials have showed ebb eovbb— . clinical trials have showed all covid vaccines are effective emb— all covid vaccines are effective emb sebe.— all covid vaccines are effective emb sebe. bb— all covid vaccines are effective and safe. mr bridgen was given 28 bews— and safe. mr bridgen was given 28 bews be— and safe. mr bridgen was given 28 days to appeal— and safe. mr bridgen was given 28 days to appeal, and he said bebb— 28 days to appeal, and he said be-bb sbebb— 28 days to appeal, and he said he'll stand against stand again at he'll stand against stand again eb bbe— he'll stand against stand again eb bbe meeb— he'll stand against stand again at the next election. he's hit eeb— at the next election. he's hit eeb eb— at the next election. he's hit eeb eb wbeb— at the next election. he's hit out of what he— at the next election. he's hit out of what he calls corruption emb— out of what he calls corruption emb ebs— out of what he calls corruption and cover ups in— out of what he calls corruption and cover ups in .— out of what he calls corruption and cover ups in . politics and cover ups in. politics i berebw— and cover ups in. politics i barely recognise— and cover ups in. politics i barely recognise the- barely recognise the conservative party at the moment. we seem to have moved away from being a party that legislates for the people to a party that legislates against the people . surely i've got the the people. surely i've got the right to free speech, to express the genuine and legitimate concerns of my constituents about the safety and efficacy of experimental vaccines which were never tested properly .
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never tested properly. troubridge and the speaker to gb news a short time ago . well, in news a short time ago. well, in other news, the— news a short time ago. well, in other news, the met— \r c 3 well, in other news, the met police commissioner— other news, the met police commissioner has admitted the bee— commissioner has admitted the beree besb-b— commissioner has admitted the force hasn't reached its recruitment— force hasn't reached its recruitment target, saying there are recruitment target, saying there ebeeb— recruitment target, saying there are about 1000— recruitment target, saying there are about 1000 officers short, beb— are about 1000 officers short, beb mere— are about 1000 officers short, but more than— are about 1000 officers short, but more than 20,000 new police ebbbeers— but more than 20,000 new police ebbbeers beve— but more than 20,000 new police officers have been— but more than 20,000 new police officers have been hired in bmgbemb— officers have been hired in bmgbemb emb— officers have been hired in england and wales. but britain's bbggesb— england and wales. but britain's bbggesb bebbe— england and wales. but britain's biggest police force missed its bbbbbeeb— biggest police force missed its individual target. the ongoing reerebbmemb— individual target. the ongoing recruitment program is expected . be— recruitment program is expected . be eesb— recruitment program is expected . be eesb ebs-b— recruitment program is expected . to cost £18.5 billion over the meeb— . to cost £18.5 billion over the mexb beeebe— . to cost £18.5 billion over the mexb beeebe .— . to cost £18.5 billion over the next decade . and— . to cost £18.5 billion over the next decade . and the prime next decade. and the prime bbbmbsber— next decade. and the prime minister said— next decade. and the prime minister said earlier that ebbbeegb— minister said earlier that although progress has been good : werb bs— although progress has been good , more work is needed . , more work is needed. bbeemwbbbe— , more work is needed. meanwhile, mr rowley admits the webs— meanwhile, mr rowley admits the met's shortcoming _ meanwhile, mr rowley admits the met's shortcoming is partly down to met's shortcoming is partly down be bbe— met's shortcoming is partly down be bbe berees— met's shortcoming is partly down to the force's current reputation - to the force's current reputation .- to the force's current reputation . now a man has to the force's current— reputation . now a man has been reputation. now a man has been bebeb— reputation. now a man has been tebbeb ber— reputation. now a man has been jailed for assisting— reputation. now a man has been jailed for assisting nine year ebb— jailed for assisting nine year ebb bbbbe— jailed for assisting nine year old olivia pratt—korbel murderer, 41- old olivia pratt—korbel murderer, 41 year old paul bessebb— murderer, 41 year old paul russell pleaded guilty to brbbmg— russell pleaded guilty to driving thomas cashman after beb— driving thomas cashman after be-b bebebbw— driving thomas cashman after he'd fatally shot— driving thomas cashman after he'd fatally shot the little gbrb— he'd fatally shot the little gbrb besb— he'd fatally shot the little girl last summer in liverpool. he girl last summer in liverpool. be bebb— girl last summer in liverpool. he told police— girl last summer in liverpool. he told police in— girl last summer in liverpool. he told police in the days after bbbbe-s— he told police in the days after olivia's death— he told police in the days after olivia's death that— he told police in the days after olivia's death that cashman was resbemsbbbe— olivia's death that cashman was responsible for— olivia's death that cashman was responsible for her— olivia's death that cashman was responsible for her murder and he responsible for her murder and be bebm-b— responsible for her murder and he hadn't been— responsible for her murder and he hadn't been aware that he'd bebbeb—
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he hadn't been aware that he'd bebbeb bbm. — he hadn't been aware that he'd helped him. he's— he hadn't been aware that he'd helped him. he's been sentenced, bbeegb— helped him. he's been sentenced, bbeegb be— helped him. he's been sentenced, bbeegb be 22— helped him. he's been sentenced, though, to 22 months in prison , though, to 22 months in prison, on though, to 22 months in prison, em bb— though, to 22 months in prison, em bv ,— though, to 22 months in prison, em bv : embe— though, to 22 months in prison, on tv , online, dab+ radio and on tv, online, dab+ radio and bbe— on tv, online, dab+ radio and bbe bebem— on tv, online, dab+ radio and bbe bemem ebb.— on tv, online, dab+ radio and the tunein app. this is gb news is . bs- okay. now bs— okay. now to is. okay. now to some very controversial comments from the bank of england's economist hugh pill says that brits must accept that we're poorer. okay. so apparently he apparently pill is on a cool £190,000 a year. he says asking for pay rises is stoking inflation. joining me now is ros clarke, who's a writer for the spectator. now, ros, do you think that he's right to say that we should all just accept being poorer? well, he's right in that we— just accept being poorer? well, he's right in that we are- tt g 7 well, he's right in that we are poorer as he's right in that we are poorer es e eeembrw. — he's right in that we are poorer as a country. the— he's right in that we are poorer as a country. the economy is sbebb.— as a country. the economy is static. productivity hasn't reebbw— static. productivity hasn't reebbw beem— static. productivity hasn't really been growing for over a beeebe. — really been growing for over a decade. we've— really been growing for over a decade. we've been growing very, werw— decade. we've been growing very, eerw sbewbw— decade. we've been growing very, eerw sbewbw .— decade. we've been growing very, eerw sbewbw . amb— decade. we've been growing very, very slowly . and if— decade. we've been growing very, very slowly . and if the economy
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very slowly. and if the economy is very slowly. and if the economy bs meb— very slowly. and if the economy bs meb grewbmg— very slowly. and if the economy bs meb grewbmg ,— very slowly. and if the economy is not growing , then we cannot is not growing, then we cannot gbe— is not growing, then we cannot gbe es— is not growing, then we cannot gbe es er— is not growing, then we cannot gbe es er gbe— is not growing, then we cannot give us or give ourselves above bmbbebbem— give us or give ourselves above bmbbebbem bew— give us or give ourselves above inflation pay rises.— give us or give ourselves above inflation pay rises. some groups mbgbb— inflation pay rises. some groups mbgbb geb— inflation pay rises. some groups mbgbb geb ebewe— inflation pay rises. some groups might get above inflation. pay rbses— might get above inflation. pay eb— might get above inflation. pay eb bbe— might get above inflation. pay rises at the expense of others, beb— rises at the expense of others, beb bb— rises at the expense of others, beb bb bs— rises at the expense of others, but it is physically impossible for but it is physically impossible ber bbe— but it is physically impossible for the whole— but it is physically impossible for the whole population to get ebeve— for the whole population to get above inflation— for the whole population to get above inflation pay rises when the above inflation pay rises when bbe eeebemw— above inflation pay rises when the economy is— above inflation pay rises when the economy is not growing beese— the economy is not growing because inflation is what is the bewbee— because inflation is what is the bebbee wbbeb— because inflation is what is the device which stops that sort of berbebeeb— device which stops that sort of perpetual motion— device which stops that sort of perpetual motion machine , you perpetual motion machine, you bmew— perpetual motion machine, you bmew: ereebbmg— perpetual motion machine, you know, creating us— perpetual motion machine, you know, creating us wealth which beesm-b— know, creating us wealth which beesm-b exbsb— know, creating us wealth which doesn't exist with— know, creating us wealth which doesn't exist with respect of beeebe— doesn't exist with respect of beebbe bbbe — doesn't exist with respect of people like him,— doesn't exist with respect of people like him, not made us beerer— people like him, not made us beerer wbbb— people like him, not made us poorer with some— people like him, not made us poorer with some of the beebsbems— poorer with some of the decisions that- poorer with some of the decisions that they've made, esbeebebbw— decisions that they've made, especially during the pandemic. and especially during the pandemic. beb bb— especially during the pandemic. beb bb sbebb— especially during the pandemic. and it sticks in— especially during the pandemic. and it sticks in the— especially during the pandemic. and it sticks in the craw- and it sticks in the craw a little bit when it just goes, wow, look, you're just going to have to accept now. well, have to accept it now. well, this is what i was- tt c well, this is what i was saying this mermbmg— this is what i was saying this mermbmg bm— this is what i was saying this morning in the— this is what i was saying this morning in the spectator. we; morning in the spectator. we've got morning in the spectator. we've geb-bib— morning in the spectator. we've geb-bbbb-ebbeb- got hugh pill, who's chief economist, also nato ben broadbent, the deputy government deputy governor. sorry, in the past 24 hours have tried to sort of repeat this line that quantitative easing, which is really a polite name for printing money, let's face it , printing money, let's face it, did not cause inflation. and
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they're trying to deny by any role of the bank of england in in this this surge of inflation we've had in the past two years. and their economy is warning right the way since quantitative easing began back in 2009, saying this will cause inflation. look, it's happened inflation. look, it's happened in zimbabwe, happened in weimar germany, printing money causes inflation. and the bank of england sort of said, no, no, no, we can get away with it. okay. if it's just in the depths of the economic crisis, maybe. but they carried on printing money even when the economy. this is this is the thing. and wee geb— this is this is the thing. and now you've got some guy here. i bbe— now you've got some guy here. i mean, the optics— now you've got some guy here. i mean, the optics of— now you've got some guy here. i mean, the optics of this- now you've got some guy here. i mean, the optics of this are- mean, the optics of this are shocking, aren't they? you've got shocking, aren't they? you've 9°t guy shocking, aren't they? you've got guy who's on reportedly got a guy who's on reportedly 190 grand a year, you know, imagine possibly on more imagine possibly on a few more quid that potentially quid than that and potentially raising profile as a result raising his profile as a result of like this with a of comments like this with a view of maybe increasing his salary as when salary exponentially as and when he on and no he decides to move on and no doubt on to the dinner doubt get on to the after dinner speaking circuit get some
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speaking circuit or get some lovely somewhere speaking circuit or get some loveljwhatever somewhere speaking circuit or get some loveljwhatever . somewhere speaking circuit or get some loveljwhatever . okay.omewhere speaking circuit or get some loveljwhatever . okay. thisvhere speaking circuit or get some loveljwhatever . okay. this guy, else, whatever. okay. this guy, i don't think knows about being poor and a lot of people in this country right now are finding out about being poor and do you not think maybe he's a visible symbol of a lot of what's wrong at the bank of england? well, i think if you're going— at the bank of england? well, i think if you're going to- 3:7 well, i think if you're going to tell bbe— think if you're going to tell bbe eeembrw— think if you're going to tell the country that they are poor, mew-we— the country that they are poor, mewbe-be— the country that they are poor, they've .to accept- they've got to accept they're beerer— they've got to accept they're beerer emb — they've got to accept they're poorer and they— they've got to accept they're poorer and they must not demand ebeve— poorer and they must not demand above inflation— poorer and they must not demand above inflation pay— poorer and they must not demand above inflation pay rises, then i above inflation pay rises, then bmbb— above inflation pay rises, then bbbbmb bbe— above inflation pay rises, then i think the first— above inflation pay rises, then i think the first thing to do is set i think the first thing to do is seb em— i think the first thing to do is set an example.— i think the first thing to do is set an example. if you're on bebebe— set an example. if you're on beb:ooolweer:— set an example. if you're on 190,000 year, that means take 190,000 a year, that means take a pay— 190,000 a year, that means take e bew eeb. — 190,000 a year, that means take ebew eeb. bee— 190,000 a year, that means take a pay cut. you think you should bebe— a pay cut. you think you should bebe e— a pay cut. you think you should bebe e bew— a pay cut. you think you should bebe e bew eebe— a pay cut. you think you should take a pay cut? yeah. don't even beeb— take a pay cut? yeah. don't even keep-pav— take a pay cut? yeah. don't even beeb-bew-seme.- take a pay cut? yeah. don't even keep pay same. take a keep your pay the same. take a pay— keep your pay the same. take a bew eeb— keep your pay the same. take a bew eeblbmb— keep your pay the same. take a pay cut .and _you're . pay cut. and that's if you're going— pay cut. and that's if you're gebmg be— pay cut. and that's if you're gebmg be bebb— pay cut. and that's if you're going to tell nurses, doctors, brem— going to tell nurses, doctors, train drivers— going to tell nurses, doctors, train drivers and— going to tell nurses, doctors, train drivers and everybody else in train drivers and everybody else bm bbe— train drivers and everybody else bm bbe eeembrw— train drivers and everybody else in the country why— train drivers and everybody else in the country why you cannot beve— in the country why you cannot bebe em— in the country why you cannot have an above— in the country why you cannot have an above inflation pay rise beese— have an above inflation pay rise beese bb— have an above inflation pay rise because it will— have an above inflation pay rise because it will just— have an above inflation pay rise because it will just create more bmbbebbem. — because it will just create more bmbbebbem. bebw— because it will just create more inflation. why not— because it will just create more inflation. why not set an exembbe— inflation. why not set an example and— inflation. why not set an example and cut your pay by ten gremb— example and cut your pay by ten gremb e— example and cut your pay by ten gremb e weer— example and cut your pay by ten gremb e weer er— example and cut your pay by ten grand a year or something? but at grand a year or something? but ebleere.— grand a year or something? but ebleere. bbeegb— grand a year or something? but at.core, though, he- grand a year or something? but at core, though, he does at its core, though, he does have a point, doesn't he? because a lot of the arguments egebmsb—
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because a lot of the arguments egebmsb-gebmg- because a lot of the arguments egebmsb-gebmg em- because a lot of the arguments against going on strike against people going on strike emb—wembbmgl and against people wanting wbebbbmg— and against people wanting whopping-pav- and against people wanting whopping pay rises and against people wanting- whopping-pay rises so whopping great big pay rises so a whopping great big pay rises so e geeb— whopping great big pay rises so e geeb exembbe— whopping great big pay rises so a good example would be the bebber— a good example would be the bebber-wbe— a good example would be the tember-wbe sew- a good example would be the junior who say we want junior doctors who say we want our junior doctors who say we want eer—b- junior doctors who say we want eer—b bmbb- our pay restored. so i think bb-s— our pay restored. so i think bb-s-bewebs- our pay restored. so i think it's levels, which would it's 2008 levels, which would eguater— it's 2008 levels, which would eeebe-emwwew. - it's 2008 levels, which would equate, anyway. so equate, they say anyway. so reegbbw— equate, they say anyway. so roughly-pav- equate, they say anyway. so roughly pay increase from roughly a 35% pay increase from wbere— roughly a 35% pay increase from wbere mew— roughly a 35% pay increase from wbere bbew ere— roughly a 35% pay increase from where they are .the - roughly a 35% pay increase from where they are the minute . where they are at the minute. amb— where they are at the minute. amb b— where they are at the minute. amb b-bb-s— where they are at the minute. and i it's reasonable to and i think it's reasonable to say— and i think it's reasonable to sewlbeb— and i think it's reasonable to sewlbeb eb— and i think it's reasonable to sayllot of people- and i think it's reasonable to say lot of people go, well, say a lot of people go, well, bbeb-s— say a lot of people go, well, that's—cannoti that's ridiculous. we cannot ebberb— that's ridiculous. we cannot ebberb-beb- that's ridiculous. we cannot. afford _toplnurses afford that. on top of nurses pav— afford that. on top of nurses bew rbses— afford that. on top of nurses pay rises, train— afford that. on top of nurses pay rises, train drivers and all of pay rises, train drivers and all eb bbbs— pay rises, train drivers and all of this stuff— pay rises, train drivers and all of this stuff .— pay rises, train drivers and all of this stuff . so— pay rises, train drivers and all of this stuff . so at his core, of this stuff. so at his core, he of this stuff. so at his core, be bes— of this stuff. so at his core, be bes e— of this stuff. so at his core, he has a point,— of this stuff. so at his core, he has a point, doesn't he? wmeb— he has a point, doesn't he? wmeb bs— he has a point, doesn't he? which is that— he has a point, doesn't he? which is that we- he has a point, doesn't he? which is that we do have to eeeebb— which is that we do have to eeeebb bbeb— which is that we do have to accept that this— which is that we do have to accept that this country's eeememw— accept that this country's eeememw bs— accept that this country's economy is not- accept that this country's economy is not in great shape emb— economy is not in great shape emb we— economy is not in great shape emb we eem-b— economy is not in great shape emb we eem-b we— economy is not in great shape and we can't we have to rein it in and we can't we have to rein it be e— and we can't we have to rein it be e bbb— and we can't we have to rein it be e bbb. bbe— and we can't we have to rein it in a bit. we have— and we can't we have to rein it in a bit. we have to- and we can't we have to rein it in a bit. we have to cut our eesbs— in a bit. we have to cut our eesbs besb— in a bit. we have to cut our costs just the— in a bit. we have to cut our costs just the way he said it is. costs just the way he said it bs. abb— costs just the way he said it bs. abb rbgbb— costs just the way he said it is. all right. well, if we just be-s— is. all right. well, if we just he's absolutely— is. all right. well, if we just he's absolutely right in that if we besb— he's absolutely right in that if we besb bew— he's absolutely right in that if we just pay ourselves more and the we just pay ourselves more and bbe eeerbemw— we just pay ourselves more and bbe eeememw bs— we just pay ourselves more and the economy is actually brebeebmg— the economy is actually producing more, you've got more memew— producing more, you've got more memeweer- gebmg- producing more, you've got more money over going after not money going over going after not —mereserwees - money going over going after not| more—services. that's more goods and services. that's a more goods and services. that's e reebe— more goods and services. that's e reebe ber— more goods and services. that's a recipe for inflation. and that's should combine that's but you should combine that's but you should combine that bit contrition that with a bit of contrition maybe, and say, i think would maybe, and say, i think it would help. this is a bit if he help. i know this is a bit if he seb:— help. i know this is a bit if he sebbleebbbmg— help. i know this is a bit if he said,-cutting my- help. i know this is a bit if he said,-cutting my pay- i know this is a bit if he said, cutting my pay by ten said, i'm cutting my pay by ten gremb— said, i'm cutting my pay by ten gremb e— said, i'm cutting my pay by ten gremb e-e— said, i'm cutting my pay by ten grand a-a token- said, i'm cutting my pay by ten grand a a token amount, grand a year, a token amount, beb— grand a year, a token amount, be-b sbbbb— grand a year, a token amount, be-b sbbbb be— grand a year, a token amount,
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he'd still be grand he'd still be on 180 grand a weer. — he'd still be on 180 grand a year. wouldn't— he'd still be on 180 grand a year. wouldn't that- he'd still be on 180 grand a year. e c g year. wouldn't that be a great idea? well, there you go. you beebb— idea? well, there you go. you beerb bb— idea? well, there you go. you heard it here first. maybe you should go and get a pay cut. la ross, thank you very much. absolute pleasure. and thank you for around for a bit for for waiting around for a bit for us ross clark there, us as well as ross clark there, who is a writer at the spectator, just reacting there to that apparently to that news that apparently we're going to have to we're all just going to have to accept, just roll over and accept, just roll over and accept poorer. accept that we're all poorer. right well, no, don't right okay. well, no, don't fancy that myself. there we fancy that myself. but there we go. and more people, go. more and more people, though, choosing this to though, are choosing get this to go without that's what go without sex. that's what guardian says. anyway guardian writer says. anyway yeah. why yeah. anyway, one word. why i have some. staggering have got some. some staggering news ladies and news for you, ladies and gentlemen. people than ever gentlemen. more people than ever before are now being before supposedly are now being voluntarily i'm voluntarily celibate. right. i'm patrick news patrick christys on gb news britain's news .
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join us here on gb news, the people's . people's. channel now. so some people go people's. channel— now. so some people go through berbebs— now. so some people go through berbebs eb— now. so some people go through periods of celibacy,— so some people go through periods of celibacy, through no beebb— periods of celibacy, through no beebb eb—
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periods of celibacy, through no fault of their— periods of celibacy, through no fault of their own— periods of celibacy, through no fault of their own covid beebbewm— fault of their own covid lockdown has- fault of their own covid lockdown has a lot to answer forb— lockdown has a lot to answer ber: beese-b— lockdown has a lot to answer for, doesn't it?— lockdown has a lot to answer for, doesn't it? but apparently beebbe— for, doesn't it? but apparently some people are— for, doesn't it? but apparently some people are now actively ebeesbmg— some people are now actively ebeesbmg be— some people are now actively choosing to be— some people are now actively choosing to be celibate. the besbbeg— choosing to be celibate. the hashtag celibacy has had more bbem— hashtag celibacy has had more bbem beb— hashtag celibacy has had more than 195 million— hashtag celibacy has had more than 195 million views on bbeb:— than 195 million views on tiktok, with— than 195 million views on tiktok, with voluntary or intentional— tiktok, with voluntary or intentional celibacy trending embbme— intentional celibacy trending embbme. beb— intentional celibacy trending online. but why? i hear you ask why?— online. but why? i hear you ask why? bebb— online. but why? i hear you ask why? well, people— online. but why? i hear you ask why? well, people claim that gbbmg— why? well, people claim that gbbmg eb— why? well, people claim that gbbmg eb se— why? well, people claim that gbbmg eb bs— why? well, people claim that giving up sex is improving their beer— giving up sex is improving their beer bes— giving up sex is improving their faux pas aukus_ giving up sex is improving their faux pas aukus their mental beebb— faux pas aukus their mental health, their— faux pas aukus their mental health, their energy . and there health, their energy. and there e bebe— health, their energy. and there was a 90% increase in google seereesb ber— was a 90% increase in google searches for celibacy in january ebeme— searches for celibacy in january ebeme bbe— searches for celibacy in january ebeme be ee— searches for celibacy in january alone. we can speak now to rebebbemsbbb— alone. we can speak now to relationship and— alone. we can speak now to relationship and sex therapist . relationship and sex therapist. it's relationship and sex therapist. bb-s bbbembe— relationship and sex therapist. it's miranda christophers. bbbembe— it's miranda christophers. miranda thank you very much. bbe— miranda thank you very much. we geb— miranda thank you very much. we geb be— miranda thank you very much. we geb be esb— miranda thank you very much. i've got to ask the obvious geesbbem— i've got to ask the obvious geesbbem. be— i've got to ask the obvious question. do you think people reebbw— question. do you think people reebbw ere— question. do you think people really are voluntarily celibate or really are voluntarily celibate er mew— really are voluntarily celibate or can they just— really are voluntarily celibate or can they just not getting it 7 or can they just not getting it b wbebb— or can they just not getting it b webb. be— or can they just not getting it b webb. b— or can they just not getting it ? well, no, i actually- or can they just not getting it 7 t r:rt;:�*c. ? well, no, i actually genuinely do think people are looking at voluntary celibacy and literally for a number of different reasons. it's going to vary from berser— reasons. it's going to vary from bersem be — reasons. it's going to vary from bersem be bersem — reasons. it's going to vary from person to person. but- it's going to vary from person to person. but i think beebbe— person to person. but i think beebbe ere— person to person. but i think beebbe besb— person to person. but i think people are just generally beebbmg— people are just generally feeling more— people are just generally feeling more empowered about it in feeling more empowered about it be berms— feeling more empowered about it be berms eb—
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feeling more empowered about it in terms of their— feeling more empowered about it in terms of their choices around rebebbemsbbbs— in terms of their choices around relationships and— in terms of their choices around relationships and around sex and reebbw— relationships and around sex and reebbw ,— relationships and around sex and reebbw : es— relationships and around sex and reebbw , es gerb— relationships and around sex and reebbw , es berb eb— relationships and around sex and really , as part of that, really, as part of that, ebwbeesbw— really, as part of that, obviously having the choice as to obviously having the choice as be wbebber— obviously having the choice as to whether they— obviously having the choice as to whether they want to do it b— to whether they want to do it now. i mean, i'm— to whether they want to do it now. i mean, i'm sure we all bmew— now. i mean, i'm sure we all bmew bb-s— now. i mean, i'm sure we all bmew bb-s gebmg— now. i mean, i'm sure we all know it's going to- now. i mean, i'm sure we all know it's going to be no shocker bbeb— know it's going to be no shocker bbeb meb— know it's going to be no shocker that not everyone— know it's going to be no shocker that not everyone enjoys sex. web— that not everyone enjoys sex. beb eeerwbebw— that not everyone enjoys sex. not everybody wants to be having seeeb— not everybody wants to be having sexual intimacy— not everybody wants to be having sexual intimacy in— not everybody wants to be having sexual intimacy in terms of the webemberw— sexual intimacy in terms of the voluntary celibacy. i mean, you eeebb— voluntary celibacy. i mean, you eeebb esb:— voluntary celibacy. i mean, you could ask, well,— voluntary celibacy. i mean, you could ask, well, is— voluntary celibacy. i mean, you could ask, well, is this about berbmereb— could ask, well, is this about partnered sex?— could ask, well, is this about partnered sex? is— could ask, well, is this about partnered sex? is this about is bbbs— partnered sex? is this about is bbbs ebse— partnered sex? is this about is this also including solo sex breebbsesb — this also including solo sex practises? so— this also including solo sex practises? so ,— this also including solo sex practises? grtne“ rttg this also including solo sex- practises? so , yeah, very much. practises? so, yeah, very much. i think practises? so, yeah, very much. b bbbmb b— practises? so, yeah, very much. i think i think— practises? so, yeah, very much. i think i think there— practises? so, yeah, very much. i think i think there is— practises? so, yeah, very much. i think i think there is a- i think i think there is a gemebme— i think i think there is a genuine curiosity around it. and of course, with— genuine curiosity around it. and of course, with social media and beebbe— of course, with social media and beebbe bebbbmg— of course, with social media and people talking about it and bebembbebbw— people talking about it and potentially talking about the bemebbbs— potentially talking about the bemebbbs eb— potentially talking about the benefits of it— potentially talking about the benefits of it or— potentially talking about the benefits of it or perceived bemebbbs— benefits of it or perceived benefits, then _ benefits of it or perceived benefits, then people are going to benefits, then people are going be geerw— benefits, then people are going be geerw bb— benefits, then people are going be geerw bb emb— benefits, then people are going to query it and are going to bbbmb:— to query it and are going to bbbmb: webb— to query it and are going to think, well, if— to query it and are going to think, well, if there's something- think, well, if there's something that they're not beebbmg— something that they're not feeling-right— something that they're not feeling right about it for feeling is right about it for bbem — feeling is right about it for them _whatever- them. yeah, whatever their sbbeebbem:— them. yeah, whatever their situation, one— them. yeah, whatever their situation, one things situation, one of the things bbeb— situation, one of the things bbeb sbeeb— situation, one of the things that stood out— situation, one of the things that stood out for me, of that stood out for me, one of bbe— that stood out for me, one of bbe-bbeb— that stood out for me, one of the-that stood- that stood out for me, one of the that stood out that stood out for me, one of. the-that stood out-me the things that stood out for me wbem— the things that stood out for me wbem-reeb— the things that stood out for me when-read this- the things that stood out for me when read this report when i when i read this report eebeebbw— when i when i read this report eebeebbw ws— when i when i read this report actually was some of the case sbebbes— actually was some of the case sbebbes bbeb— actually was some of the case studies that used. \bciit" studies that they used. now, some-were or- studies that they used. now, some _were or one. studies that they used. now,�* some _were or one of studies that they used. now, some were or one of them some of them were or one of them was a woman who that was from a woman who said that she was only finding men who
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were keen one night stand were keen on a one night stand when obviously wanted when she obviously wanted something lot than something a lot more than that. and she wasn't in a position where she felt she was able to find someone who more. so find someone who wanted more. so she thought i'd give up she thought i'd just give up because obvious reason, because for the obvious reason, she didn't want keep having she didn't want to keep having one right? another she didn't want to keep having one was right? another she didn't want to keep having one was individualt? another she didn't want to keep having one was individual who lother she didn't want to keep having one was individual who who r one was an individual who who said led very said that he led a very promiscuous lifestyle and ended up ill as up becoming quite ill as a result that has, result of it. and that has, i think, traumatised him really. and so now so there are actual multiple different reasons why people feel their life is people just feel their life is better without the pressure of trying to have sex and do you think do you think do you think it'll catch . on as i say , it'll catch. on as i say, honestly— it'll catch. on as i say, honestly varies- c a (at q" as i say, honestly varies from . ct {fut q" as i say, honestly varies from person to perm.— honestly varies from person to peren- w— honestly varies from person to person. i definitely think that people— person. i definitely think that people do— person. i definitely think that people do consider it may consider— people do consider it may consider it— people do consider it may consider it for— people do consider it may consider it for a- people do consider it may consider it for a different reasons. for— consider it for a different reasons. for some people, whey-re— reasons. for some people, they-re neve— reasons. for some people, they're never going to consider peppe— they're never going to consider being celibate.— they're never going to consider being celibate. it— they're never going to consider being celibate. it just wouldn't being celibate. it just wouldn't be something— being celibate. it just wouldn't be something that's a tall, eppeeupp— be something that's a tall, appealing for_ be something that's a tall, appealing for them. but for ethere— appealing for them. but for others, ee— appealing for them. but for others, as you're mentioning where,— others, as you're mentioning there, where — others, as you're mentioning there, there - be - others, as you're mentioning there, there be things such there, there may be things such as
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there, there may be things such ee lifestyle,— there, there may be things such as lifestyle, how— there, there may be things such as lifestyle, how they're it may be effecting— as lifestyle, how they're it may be affecting in— as lifestyle, how they're it may be affecting in terms of their merese— be affecting in terms of their ipwereewe ,— be affecting in terms of their interests , are— be affecting in terms of their interests , are they getting the interests, are they getting the sex interests, are they getting the they— interests, are they getting the sex they want?— interests, are they getting the sex they want? i— interests, are they getting the sex they want? i think that's whe— sex they want? i think that's the key— sex they want? i think that's the key thing-— sex they want? i think that's the key thing. it's thinking epeuw— the key thing. it's thinking about p— the key thing. it's thinking about it and— the key thing. it's thinking about it and we think about it in about it and we think about it p. eeeme— about it and we think about it p. terms of— about it and we think about it in terms of sex— about it and we think about it in terms of sex positivity that moo — in terms of sex positivity that comes into it— in terms of sex positivity that comes into it in— in terms of sex positivity that comes into it in terms of like sepal— comes into it in terms of like sexual interest.— comes into it in terms of like sexual interest. are you having the sex— sexual interest. are you having the moo— sexual interest. are you having the sex that you— sexual interest. are you having the sex that you want? as you eem, — the sex that you want? as you said, somebody— the sex that you want? as you said, somebody may be having ooeuot— said, somebody may be having casual relationships and they eon-w— casual relationships and they eon-o wom— casual relationships and they don't want the _ casual relationships and they don't want the casual relationships they don't want the casual relationships .they want relationships or they don't want the relationships or they don't want ope—so— relationships or they don't want ope—so oppo- relationships or they don't want the—so that is- relationships or they don't want the so that is going the casual sex. so that is going to make— the casual sex. so that is going to make _think_ the casual sex. so that is going to make think about it and to make them think about it and think— to make them think about it and wnnn aboun— to make them think about it and think about, well,— to make them think about it and think about, well, what else can i think about, well, what else can w doe— think about, well, what else can w ooe pp...p.,_ think about, well, what else can i do? miranda, thank you very, ven— i do? miranda, thank you very, very-insightful- i do? miranda, thank you very, very-insightful stuff. very much. insightful stuff. miranda there who miranda christophers there who is and sex is a relationship and sex therapist. right. okay. so moving sir keir starmer has moving on, sir keir starmer has said that boys should receive lessons in school on how to behave towards girls. now the labour leader says that it would help reduce sexual violence and harassment, whether harassment, but i wonder whether or not this is yet another example of teachers trying to just role the just play the role of the parents. am now by parents. i am joined now by author whelan and the author ella whelan and the assistant assistant editor author ella whelan and the as prospect assistant editor author ella whelan and the as prospect magazine. editor author ella whelan and the as prospect magazine. emily' author ella whelan and the as prospect magazine. emily law. of prospect magazine. emily law. for both of you, thank you very much. ella, we'll start with
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you, that's all right. do you you, if that's all right. do you think that this is an example of teachers play parent? teachers trying to play parent? well, perhaps . i mean, the way well, perhaps. i mean, the way in well, perhaps. i mean, the way p. onen— well, perhaps. i mean, the way p. nnon ne— well, perhaps. i mean, the way in which we talk— well, perhaps. i mean, the way in which we talk to kids about young— in which we talk to kids about young pewte— in which we talk to kids about young people, about sex comes from— young people, about sex comes from onone— young people, about sex comes from various forms— young people, about sex comes from various forms and facts . from various forms and facts. vou— from various forms and facts. you know,— from various forms and facts. you know, one— from various forms and facts. you know, they very often as nnon — you know, they very often as nnon oe— you know, they very often as noon on one— you know, they very often as much as they don't listen to onen— much as they don't listen to their teachers, _ much as they don't listen to their teachers, they don't unten— their teachers, they don't newen wo— their teachers, they don't listen to their— their teachers, they don't listen to their parents either. no— listen to their parents either. it's-something- listen to their parents either. it's something that they it's usually something that they figure—awfull figure out themselves as awful as figure out themselves as awful oe-eonnoe— figure out themselves as awful oe-eonnoe py— figure out themselves as awful as-sounds by kind- figure out themselves as awful as sounds by kind trial as that sounds by kind of trial one— as that sounds by kind of trial and error. but— as that sounds by kind of trial and error. but i— as that sounds by kind of trial and error. but i think the biggest problem with this is that, you know, there's a complete misunderstanding of the reasons men , you know, reasons why men, you know, certain men still do bad things to women from the very serious like rape and assault to the sort of less serious but annoying like sexist comments. it's not because they've missed out it's not because they've missed one on— it's not because they've missed one on o— it's not because they've missed out on a sex and— it's not because they've missed out on a sex and relationships eonoononop— out on a sex and relationships educational class. . educational class. it's they know— educational class. it's they know very well what they're doing is wrong and they're doing it in spite of it being wrong. so i think we're in danger so i think what we're in danger of doing— so i think what we're in danger of doing is— so i think what we're in danger of doing is completely missing the of doing is completely missing one-epon— of doing is completely missing the-about how- of doing is completely missing the-about how to- of doing is completely missing the about how to fight for the point about how to fight for women's freedom _ the point about how to fight for women's freedom and against one— women's freedom and against sexism and _just,- women's freedom and against sexism and just, you sexism and instead just, you know,— sexism and instead just, you know, w— sexism and instead just, you know, i think— sexism and instead just, you know, i think giving young boys
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yet know, i think giving young boys yep onowner— know, i think giving young boys yet another complex, because one— yet another complex, because nnoo were— yet another complex, because what we're saying is you're very,— what we're saying is you're very, ven— what we're saying is you're very, very poo— what we're saying is you're very, very bad and awful little creatures that— very, very bad and awful little creatures that we _ very, very bad and awful little creatures that we have to train on— creatures that we have to train on on— creatures that we have to train on on peng— creatures that we have to train out of being bad. _ creatures that we have to train out of being bad. otherwise yon-u— out of being bad. otherwise you'll harm girls. and i just don't know anyone sensible who thinks that's genuinely true. yeah. emily how would you respond— yeah. emily how would you respond wo— yeah. emily how would you respond to that? now emily monopo— respond to that? now emily ludford, assistant editor of noepeow— ludford, assistant editor of prospect magazine. so the idea onen— prospect magazine. so the idea that teachers— prospect magazine. so the idea that teachers might essentially be that teachers might essentially pe newne— that teachers might essentially be telling ou— that teachers might essentially be telling all boys just not to sexually— be telling all boys just not to sexually assault— be telling all boys just not to sexually assault girls and, you know,— sexually assault girls and, you know, almost,— sexually assault girls and, you know, almost, i— sexually assault girls and, you know, almost, i suppose, infantilize_ know, almost, i suppose, infantilize them like that , i infantilize them like that, i eon-w— infantilize them like that, i done peony— infantilize them like that, i don't really think infantilizing is don't really think infantilizing n ooneon — don't really think infantilizing is correct. i— don't really think infantilizing is correct. i mean,- don't really think infantilizing is correct. " sq is correct. i mean, almost 80% of girls say sexual assault happens regularly in their schools . that's a huge problem , schools. that's a huge problem, i think. do schools. that's a huge problem, ithink. do i schools. that's a huge problem, i think. do i think teachers telling them don't do that is going to solve it completely? obviously not. but i don't. i also don't think boys are malevolent . i also don't think boys are malevolent. i think also don't think boys are malevolent . i think education also don't think boys are malevolent. i think education is definitely part of it. i think there are issues around consent that boys don't know. grey areas, things like when someone's drunk , when someone's too drunk, when there's pressure. i do think
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reinforcement will reinforcement education will help . do i think help in those areas. do i think it will out completely? it will stamp out completely? definitely think definitely not. i don't think it's know , i don't think it's i you know, i don't think people should be telling boys, oh, your masculinity is inherently anything inherently toxic or anything like clearly, i mean, like that. but clearly, i mean, there's problem . i don't there's a huge problem. i don't want idea of trial and want the idea of trial and error. want girls to be error. i don't want girls to be collateral boys collateral damage in boys growing don't want what growing up. i don't want what should be formative sexual experiences , what should be good experiences, what should be good or if not, you know, for both people . i don't want that to be people. i don't want that to be traumatising for girls. and i don't think boys are going to become traumatised by a lesson that's part of normal sex. ed i don't think a lesson or two it would actually cause damage to boys. jo—anne nadler well , would actually cause damage to boys. jo—anne nadler well, i just don't. i mean, the idea enn— just don't. i mean, the idea one one— just don't. i mean, the idea that trial and— just don't. i mean, the idea that trial and error- w:w:::w“ . i mean, the idea that trial and error is traumatising is, i think part of the traumatising is, i think part of one propwen— traumatising is, i think part of the problem here— traumatising is, i think part of the problem here because as you know— the problem here because as you know ,— the problem here because as you know , agein— the problem here because as you know , again, you're— the problem here because as you know , again, you're suggesting know, again, you're suggesting knee— know, again, you're suggesting knot knee— know, again, you're suggesting that what happens when a young , that what happens when a young, a that what happens when a young, o young— that what happens when a young, o young men— that what happens when a young, oyonng or— that what happens when a young, a young man or woman of the consent— a young man or woman of the consent eee— a young man or woman of the consent ege gee— a young man or woman of the consent age get together and try and consent age get together and try one get— consent age get together and try one get n— consent age get together and try one get it on— consent age get together and try one get n ke— consent age get together and try and get it on, is that boys knneenny— and get it on, is that boys inherently do— and get it on, is that boys inherently do something really,
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peony— inherently do something really, peony poo. — inherently do something really, really bad. and— inherently do something really, really bad. “w: inherently do something really, really bad. ' “w: “g inherently do something really, really bad. “w: g really bad. and the young woman suffers for it in actual fact, what mostly happens is that the two of them fumble along and maybe, you know, in the morning there are some regrets. maybe you have a bad day— there are some regrets. maybe you have a bad day or- “wttwt; ”wt: twtwg "to; maybe you have a bad day or something like you have a bad day or something nke knot.— you have a bad day or something nke not. one— you have a bad day or something like that, and you— you have a bad day or something like that, and you learn from ene— like that, and you learn from ene next— like that, and you learn from the next one.— like that, and you learn from the next one. but— like that, and you learn from the next one. but there's this eon— the next one. but there's this sort-suggestion— the next one. but there's this sort suggestion there is sort of suggestion that there is a sort of suggestion that there is o—nee. - sort of suggestion that there is o—nee. ano- sort of suggestion that there is o—nee. and in. a malevolence here. and in penn— a malevolence here. and in anon—gins actual fact, you know, girls make— actual fact, you know, girls make mistakes,— actual fact, you know, girls make mistakes, make make mistakes, boys make mistakes.— make mistakes, boys make mistakes. and— make mistakes, boys make mistakes. and the way we learn is, mistakes. and the way we learn kelknon. — mistakes. and the way we learn is,-know, about— mistakes. and the way we learn is, know, about social norms is, you know, about social norms is, you know, about social norms ke—n-e- is, you know, about social norms ke—n-e noe- is always informally it's not enongn— is always informally it's not through being— is always informally it's not through being lectured to either by your— through being lectured to either by your porenre— through being lectured to either by your parents or— through being lectured to either by your parents or by teachers . by your parents or by teachers. ano— by your parents or by teachers. no me— by your parents or by teachers. ano rne nay— by your parents or by teachers. ano rne way in— by your parents or by teachers. and the way in which we give poye— and the way in which we give poye p..— and the way in which we give boys in particular— and the way in which we give boys in particular guidance and grue— boys in particular guidance and one one— boys in particular guidance and one one now— boys in particular guidance and girls and how to— boys in particular guidance and girls and how to have their kind of neu— girls and how to have their kind of their relationships in prkoey— of their relationships in pnyoey. r— of their relationships in privacy, i think is really by being— privacy, i think is really by being oe— privacy, i think is really by being as informal about it as we can, because the— being as informal about it as we can, because the more you sit down— can, because the more you sit down ruek— can, because the more you sit down ruek you— can, because the more you sit down rules, you know, the idea of down rules, you know, the idea or reoenrng— down rules, you know, the idea of teaching consent is such a sun— of teaching consent is such a euon o— of teaching consent is such a such a nonsense— of teaching consent is such a such a nonsense to me because in ooruok— such a nonsense to me because in ooruok poor.— such a nonsense to me because in ooruok poor. you— such a nonsense to me because in actual fact, you have— such a nonsense to me because in actual fact, you have the whole norron — actual fact, you have the whole norron or— actual fact, you have the whole notion of consent— actual fact, you have the whole notion of consent is that it's neopre— notion of consent is that it's rkenpke. rr— notion of consent is that it's flexible, it changes. you can't eer— flexible, it changes. you can't eer donn— flexible, it changes. you can't set down rules— flexible, it changes. you can't set down rules for— flexible, it changes. you can't set down rules for it. you oenornky— set down rules for it. you certainly can't— set down rules for it. you certainly can't sign a contract
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for n.— certainly can't sign a contract for n. r— certainly can't sign a contract for n. n noe— certainly can't sign a contract for it. it has to— certainly can't sign a contract for it. it has to happen in the rnornenr — for it. it has to happen in the rnornenr ano— for it. it has to happen in the moment. and i— for it. it has to happen in the moment. and i think we're just grung— moment. and i think we're just gryrng you— moment. and i think we're just gryrng you puer— moment. and i think we're just giving you just talked about oekkpooy— giving you just talked about oekrpooy. r— giving you just talked about celibacy. i mean, christ, if i o young— celibacy. i mean, christ, if i was a young person today, i'd find— was a young person today, i'd nnolvery.— was a young person today, i'd nnolyery. very— was a young person today, i'd find very, very hard to find it very, very hard to engage— find it very, very hard to engage p..— find it very, very hard to engage in sexual relationships peeouee—pel engage in sexual relationships peeouee—pe eo| because there seems to be so many— because there seems to be so many-pokes— because there seems to be so many boxes check. many tick boxes to check. yeah. rnrky— many tick boxes to check. yeah. rnrky-rnere- many tick boxes to check. yeah. rnrky-rnere re- emily i suppose there is a porenrrok.— emily i suppose there is a potential, is— emily i suppose there is a potential, is there not, for it to potential, is there not, for it o pe — potential, is there not, for it to be skewed— potential, is there not, for it to be skewed now as a lot of u or— to be skewed now as a lot of women, a lot of— to be skewed now as a lot of women, a lot of teachers, sorry, nonr— women, a lot of teachers, sorry, noer reoenere— women, a lot of teachers, sorry, most teachers are _ women, a lot of teachers, sorry, most teachers are women, from unor— most teachers are women, from no r— most teachers are women, from what i understand— most teachers are women, from what i understand ' “w: what i understand it. and unerner— what i understand it. and unerner or— what i understand it. and whether or not— what i understand it. and whether or not they would necessarily be best necessarily be always be best placed to advise boys , would it placed to advise boys, would it potentially come from a position of bias? maybe. i don't know. i'm just playing devil's advocate you think this advocate here. do you think this is the way that boys is really the best way that boys could learn about should it could learn about it? should it not be from their own not maybe just be from their own mother potentially. i would also very muon— mother potentially. i would also very much encourage— i would also very much encourage parents to speak— very much encourage parents to speak ro— very much encourage parents to speak ro rnerr— very much encourage parents to speak to their children. i think if speak to their children. i think u eonooke— speak to their children. i think if schools are— speak to their children. i think if schools are having to step in, if schools are having to step in more— if schools are having to step in, that's having— if schools are having to step in, that's having to step in. rnor-e— in, that's having to step in. that's clearly— in, that's having to step in. that's clearly because parents noype— that's clearly because parents noype-novrng— that's clearly because parents maybe having those maybe aren't having those conversations— maybe aren't having those conversations and, you know, for grue— conversations and, you know, for grps .— conversations and, you know, for grrke . rr— conversations and, you know, for grrke . u re— conversations and, you know, for grrke . u is me— conversations and, you know, for girls , it is the school's girls, it is the school's responsibility as well in terms of responsibility as well in terms or one— responsibility as well in terms or one .— responsibility as well in terms or one. r— responsibility as well in terms of bias , i mean,— responsibility as well in terms of bias , i mean, clearly it's so of bias, i mean, clearly it's so for— of bias, i mean, clearly it's so for me— of bias, i mean, clearly it's so far the other— of bias, i mean, clearly it's so far the other way— of bias, i mean, clearly it's so far the other way right now. you know.— far the other way right now. you know. on— far the other way right now. you know, all teachers— far the other way right now. you
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know, all teachers are reporting vroeepreoo— know, all teachers are reporting widespread sexual— know, all teachers are reporting widespread sexual harassment. eure— widespread sexual harassment. errke ore— widespread sexual harassment. girls are reporting it. if you read— girls are reporting it. if you read me— girls are reporting it. if you read the testimonies on everyone's invited , two years everyone's invited, two years ago. — everyone's invited, two years ago. rnere — everyone's invited, two years ago. rnere were— everyone's invited, two years ago, there were some really norrovrng— ago, there were some reallyi harrowing—mean, harrowing stuff. and i mean, yeon— harrowing stuff. and i mean, yeon .— harrowing stuff. and i mean, yeon . nerng— harrowing stuff. and i mean, yeah . being assaulted by by yeah. being assaulted by by a young— yeah. being assaulted by by a young peon— yeah. being assaulted by by a young person when you're a young pron— young person when you're a young pron re— young person when you're a young person is traumatising. i really prono— person is traumatising. i really one py— person is traumatising. i really erono py run.— person is traumatising. i really stand by that. and that is noppenrng. — stand by that. and that is happening- it's- stand by that. and that is happening. it's girls are epeukrng— happening. it's girls are speaking out- happening. it's girls are speaking out about how it's nuppenrng— speaking out about how it's noppenrng .— speaking out about how it's noppenrng . r— speaking out about how it's happening . i don't think i mean happening. i don't think i mean , i happening. i don't think i mean . r vouko— happening. i don't think i mean , i would encourage if you think enouko— , i would encourage if you think men should have— , i would encourage if you think men should have some of those conversations, male teachers . i conversations, male teachers. i vouko— conversations, male teachers. i vouko euppon— conversations, male teachers. i would support that, i think and i would support that, i think and r neo— would support that, i think and r okeo rnrnk— would support that, i think and i also think as— would support that, i think and i also think as well, the girls enouko— i also think as well, the girls should have— i also think as well, the girls should have these conversations in sex— should have these conversations in eo— should have these conversations in eo oe— should have these conversations in sex ed as well— should have these conversations in sex ed as well and be taught nov— in sex ed as well and be taught nov ro— in sex ed as well and be taught nov ro reopen— in sex ed as well and be taught how to respect boys. i not how to respect boys. i am not saying— how to respect boys. i am not eoyrng rre— how to respect boys. i am not saying it's entirely one way and i saying it's entirely one way and r-rnrnk— saying it's entirely one way and r-rnrnk r— saying it's entirely one way and i-think i think— saying it's entirely one way and i-think i think it's- i don't think i think it's rnpononr— i don't think i think it's important able to do i don't think i think it's- important-able to do it in important to be able to do it in a important to be able to do it in o reepeorruk— important to be able to do it in a respectful way— important to be able to do it in a respectful way that encourages peopke— people to try things. and of inor— people to try things. and of course, not always black course, it's not always black one— course, it's not always black one unne— course, it's not always black and white and— course, it's not always black and white and i— course, it's not always black and white and i certainly don't vonr— and white and i certainly don't vonr-o— and white and i certainly don't vonr-o punen- and white and i certainly don't. want-a bunch _young want to put a bunch more young toye— want to put a bunch more young boys—offenders- boys and young offenders institutions— boys and young offenders institutions like the institutions that is like the oppoerre— institutions that is like the oppoerre-r- institutions that is like the opposite i want. institutions that is like the- opposite-i want.ithink opposite of what i want. i think it opposite of what i want. i think n enouko— opposite of what i want. i think it should .totally_ opposite of what i want. i think it should totally arnie like, it should be totally arnie like, vert— it should be totally arnie like, wen-roen- it should be totally arnie like, well,-totally non - well, almost totally non punrrrve— well, almost totally non punitive encouraging for punitive and encouraging for porn— punitive and encouraging for porn erees. — punitive and encouraging for both sides. .right,- punitive and encouraging for both sides. wg“ punitive and encouraging for both sides. . wg“ both sides. all right, look, we could this day.
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could talk about this all day. i wish we did have a bit more time, but we're slightly overtaken by the top overtaken by events at the top of hour. so you very of this hour. so thank you very much. both of you, for hope. much. both of you, for i hope. anyway, through anyway, picking through this absolute well. absolute minefield quite well. so as the author, so there we go. as the author, ella whelan and the assistant editor magazine, editor of prospect magazine, emily lawford. that's emily lawford. right. that's been an hour, been one heck of an hour, people. andrew bridgen has people. so andrew bridgen has been expelled from the conservative party he conservative party after he compared with compared covid 19 vaccines with elements holocaust. he elements of the holocaust. he hit what he calls hit out at what he calls corruption politics, and he corruption in politics, and he told gb news he's got the told gb news that he's got the right to express genuine concerns the vaccines. i'm concerns about the vaccines. i'm patrick christys on gb news. and this is britain's news.
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channel yes, well, a very good evening, everybody. patrick christie's here on gb news and i have got a firecracker of a final hour coming your way. we start with sudan, but i'm asking whether or not you think we have a moral
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obugafion not you think we have a moral obligation in country to obligation in this country to take sudanese refugees take in sudanese refugees or do we already do our bit when it comes to people from afghanistan , frankly, over the world, , frankly, all over the world, don't so that's suella don't we? so that's suella braverman has ruled more braverman has ruled out more safe legal do you safe and legal routes. do you think is a good thing? in think that is a good thing? in other news, andrew bridgen, he was on the show about an was just on the show about an hour he quite hour ago. wasn't he quite explosive interview that i thought. you make thought. what did you make of it? in and see it? if you did tune in and see it? if you did tune in and see it? he's been out of the it? he's been booted out of the conservative party for his comments relation to the comments in relation to the vaccine of what he vaccine and of course, what he said in relation to the holocaust well. you think holocaust as well. do you think that's do you not think that's fair? do you not think that's fair? do you not think that's we'll be talking that's fair? we'll be talking about all of that. and in other news as well, nurses wearing body suggested body cams. it's been suggested and reason behind it is and the main reason behind it is with cutting down on with a view of cutting down on sexual assaults and rapes that apparently taking in apparently are taking place in hospitals. would you feel, hospitals. how would you feel, though, as a patient to know that nurse treating that the nurse who's treating you most vulnerable you at your most vulnerable moment in time does indeed have a body cam on? and the whole moment in time does indeed have a bodis:am on? and the whole moment in time does indeed have a bod is filmed? and the whole moment in time does indeed have a bodis filmed? i've the whole moment in time does indeed have a bodis filmed? i've got whole moment in time does indeed have a bodis filmed? i've got allole moment in time does indeed have a bodis filmed? i've got all of thing is filmed? i've got all of this your way and much, this coming your way and much, much i will be much more, including i will be telling why local councils telling you why local councils are doing their best ruin the
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are doing their best to ruin the coronation. patrick christys on . gb news. yes, get your emails coming in thick and fast. gb views. gb news. .uk i've just had a little heads up actually. i've just seen him just over the corner of my eye there. and nigel farage is joining me live in the studio in just a matter of moments. don't miss that. of moments. so don't miss that. but is your headlines but first, it is your headlines with polly . patrick thank you. with polly. patrick thank you. good evening.— with polly. patrick thank you. good evening. the— with polly. patrick thank you. good evening. the top- t thank you. good evening. the top story ronrgnr— good evening. the top story ronrgnr on— good evening. the top story tonight on gb— good evening. the top story tonight on gb news, the home seererory— tonight on gb news, the home seererory eoye— tonight on gb news, the home secretary says there are no prone— secretary says there are no prone ro— secretary says there are no plans to introduce safe routes our— plans to introduce safe routes our of— plans to introduce safe routes our of surren— plans to introduce safe routes out of sudan for— plans to introduce safe routes out of sudan for refugees . the out of sudan for refugees. the ner— out of sudan for refugees. the fire rkrgnr— out of sudan for refugees. the first flight carrying british norronoke— first flight carrying british nationals out— first flight carrying british nationals out of the country has ranged— nationals out of the country has ranged p..— nationals out of the country has landed in the— nationals out of the country has landed in the uk— nationals out of the country has landed in the uk this afternoon at landed in the uk this afternoon or sronereo. — landed in the uk this afternoon at stansted. more— landed in the uk this afternoon at stansted. more than 300 peopke— at stansted. more than 300 peopke nove— at stansted. more than 300 people have so— at stansted. more than 300 people have so far been evacuated _ people have so far been evacuated from the country, but it's estimated _ evacuated from the country, but it's estimated around 4000 are erm— it's estimated around 4000 are errkk eruek— it's estimated around 4000 are still stuck there— it's estimated around 4000 are still stuck there .— it's estimated around 4000 are still stuck there . hundreds of still stuck there. hundreds of peopke— still stuck there. hundreds of peopke nove— still stuck there. hundreds of people have been killed in ngnrrng— people have been killed in fighting between military roorrone— fighting between military roorrone .— fighting between military factions , which broke out more factions, which broke out more rnon— factions, which broke out more rnon o— factions, which broke out more than a fortnight— factions, which broke out more than a fortnight ago . the prime than a fortnight ago. the prime rrrnrerer— than a fortnight ago. the prime
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rrrnrerer noe— than a fortnight ago. the prime minister has warned of a entou— minister has warned of a critical all— minister has warned of a critical all 24— minister has warned of a critical all 24 hours now as the nrkrrory— critical all 24 hours now as the nrkrrury noes— critical all 24 hours now as the military races to— critical all 24 hours now as the military races to rescue british peopke— military races to rescue british peopke perore— military races to rescue british people before the— military races to rescue british people before the 72 hour eeoeerrre— people before the 72 hour ceasefire ends— people before the 72 hour ceasefire ends .- people before the 72 hour ceasefire ends . asked whether ceasefire ends. asked whether the government— ceasefire ends. asked whether the government would also help refugees.— the government would also help refugees, suella_ the government would also help refugees, suella braverman said no . ve— refugees, suella braverman said no . vre nove— refugees, suella braverman said no . we have no— refugees, suella braverman said no . we have no plans- refugees, suella braverman said no . no. we have no plans to do that. our focus, first and foremost right now and bearing in mind this is a fast moving situation and a complex situation, is to support british nationals and their dependents . well, rosen their dependents. well, rosen annet— their dependents. well, rosen anneo. vno— their dependents. well, rosen ahmed, who was— their dependents. well, rosen ahmed, who was forced- . 3: well, rosen ahmed, who was forced to make her ahmed, who was forced to make ner on— ahmed, who was forced to make ner voy— ahmed, who was forced to make her own way out— ahmed, who was forced to make her own way out of— ahmed, who was forced to make her own way out of sudan , spoke her own way out of sudan, spoke to her own way out of sudan, spoke ro ue— her own way out of sudan, spoke ro ue earner— her own way out of sudan, spoke to us earlier about— her own way out of sudan, spoke to us earlier about her journey ken-r— to us earlier about her journey our easy. — to us earlier about her journey our easy. rr— to us earlier about her journey isn't easy. it isn't— to us earlier about her journey isn't easy. t t t isn't easy. it isn't safe. it's a massive, massive risk to go out on the streets and drive and attempt to move in the midst of war. and it's also not cheap . war. and it's also not cheap. it's very expensive. so it was a harrowing, harrowing journey . harrowing, harrowing journey. and ahmed speaking there. now, within the last hour, the-
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“w; now, within the last hour, the mp, andrew— within the last hour, the mp, andrew bridgen— within the last hour, the mp, andrew bridgen , has told gb news andrew bridgen, has told gb news he's andrew bridgen, has told gb news ne-e very— andrew bridgen, has told gb news he's very disappointed that the coneervorrve— he's very disappointed that the conservative party has leaked genie— conservative party has leaked gene or— conservative party has leaked details of his— conservative party has leaked details of his expulsion from me— details of his expulsion from rne puny.— details of his expulsion from rne pony. ne— details of his expulsion from the party. he was expelled on the party. he was expelled on rne mn— the party. he was expelled on rne rzrn or— the party. he was expelled on the 12th of april— the party. he was expelled on the 12th of april on a recommendation from a oreerpkrnory— recommendation from a disciplinary panel and that's eter— disciplinary panel and that's errer ne— disciplinary panel and that's after he questioned the efficacy of coer— after he questioned the efficacy of covrp re— after he questioned the efficacy of covid 19 vaccines and compared— of covid 19 vaccines and compared the— of covid 19 vaccines and compared the government rollout to compared the government rollout ro rne— compared the government rollout to the holocaust— compared the government rollout to the holocaust .— compared the government rollout to the holocaust . clinical to the holocaust. clinical rnoke— to the holocaust. clinical trials show— to the holocaust. clinical trials show all- to the holocaust. clinical trials show all covid vaccines were safe and— trials show all covid vaccines were safe and effective . mr were safe and effective. mr nnogen— were safe and effective. mr nnogen voo— were safe and effective. mr bridgen was given 28 days to appear.— bridgen was given 28 days to appear. uno— bridgen was given 28 days to appear. and ne— bridgen was given 28 days to appeal, and he said he would prono— appeal, and he said he would erono ogorn— appeal, and he said he would stand again at— appeal, and he said he would stand again at the next ekeeton— stand again at the next election. he's- stand again at the next election. he's hit out at what nee— election. he's hit out at what ne-e eokkrng— election. he's hit out at what he's calling corruption and upe kn— he's calling corruption and cover ups in politics. zrtwtwtgyw cover ups in politics. i barely reonige— cover ups in politics. i barely recognise the conservative party at the moment. we seem to have moved away from being a party that legislates for the people to a party that legislates against the people . surely i've against the people. surely i've got the right to free speech, to express the genuine and legitimate concerns of my constituents about the safety and efficacy of experimental vaccines which were never tested properly . international news now
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properly. international news now and the leaders of ukraine and china have held a telephone call for the very first time since russia's invasion of ukraine in february last year. chinese state media— february last year. chinese state media claiming- chinese state media claiming president xi state media claiming president xr jinpi“9_ state media claiming president xr jinping roii— state media claiming president xi jinping told volodymyr zeienekyy— xi jinping told volodymyr zeienekyy ne— xi jinping told volodymyr zelenskyy he is to prepared send epeoioi— zelenskyy he is to prepared send special representatives now to ukroine— special representatives now to ukroine ro— special representatives now to ukraine to begin— special representatives now to ukraine to begin peace talks . ukraine to begin peace talks. rreeiienr— ukraine to begin peace talks. president xi _ ukraine to begin peace talks. president xi is— ukraine to begin peace talks. president xi is the most povenui— president xi is the most powerful world leader to have refrained— powerful world leader to have refrained from _ powerful world leader to have refrained from denouncing kueeio-e— refrained from denouncing russia's invasion of ukraine, noking— russia's invasion of ukraine, noking o— russia's invasion of ukraine, even making a state visit to kueeio— even making a state visit to kueeio ro— even making a state visit to russia to meet— even making a state visit to russia to meet president putin ion— russia to meet president putin ioer nonn— russia to meet president putin last month. since— russia to meet president putin last month. since february , he's last month. since february, he's been— last month. since february, he's been pronoring— last month. since february, he's been promoting what he's calling a 12 been promoting what he's calling o rz poinr— been promoting what he's calling o rz poinr peuee— been promoting what he's calling a 12 point peace plan . well, a 12 point peace plan. well, nere— a 12 point peace plan. well, nere or— a 12 point peace plan. well, here at home,— a 12 point peace plan. well, here at home, the met police commissioner— here at home, the met police commissioner has admitted the force— commissioner has admitted the force noon-r— commissioner has admitted the force hasn't yet— commissioner has admitted the force hasn't yet reached its recruitment— force hasn't yet reached its recruitment target, saying there are recruitment target, saying there opour— recruitment target, saying there are about 1000— recruitment target, saying there are about 1000 officers short , are about 1000 officers short, rnon— are about 1000 officers short, more than 20,000, though police officers— more than 20,000, though police officers nove— more than 20,000, though police officers have been— more than 20,000, though police officers have been hired in ingioni— officers have been hired in ingiono one— officers have been hired in england and wales. but britain's piggeer— england and wales. but britain's piggeer poiiee— england and wales. but britain's biggest police force in london noe— biggest police force in london nee nieeeo— biggest police force in london has missed its— biggest police force in london has missed its individual target . ine— has missed its individual target . ine ongoing— has missed its individual target . the ongoing recruitment program— . the ongoing recruitment program is— . the ongoing recruitment program is expected to cost
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fro-s— program is expected to cost £18.5 billion— program is expected to cost £18.5 billion over the next decade— £18.5 billion over the next rieooie .— £18.5 billion over the next decade . and— £18.5 billion over the next decade . and the prime minister decade. and the prime minister eoriier— decade. and the prime minister eoriier eoii— decade. and the prime minister earlier said that— decade. and the prime minister earlier said that although progress— earlier said that although progreee vee— earlier said that although progress was good, more work was needed.— progress was good, more work was neerieri. irr— progress was good, more work was needed. mr rowley— progress was good, more work was needed. mr rowley says the met's enonroii— needed. mr rowley says the met's enonroii io— needed. mr rowley says the met's shortfall is partly— needed. mr rowley says the met's shortfall is partly down to the forces— shortfall is partly down to the force's current— shortfall is partly down to the force's current reputation in i vien— force's current reputation in i vien vee— force's current reputation in i vien ve-i nir— force's current reputation in i wish we'd hit it— force's current reputation in i wish we'd hit it ,— force's current reputation in i wish we'd hit it, but we haven't . viny— wish we'd hit it, but we haven't . vvny raven-r— wish we'd hit it, but we haven't . why haven't you?- wish we'd hit it, but we haven't . why haven't you? so- wish we'd hit it, but we haven't . why haven't you? so i- wish we'd hit it, but we haven't . why haven't you? so i think there are a range of there are a range of factors in this and we have recruited over the last three years more than 9000 officers, which is the most, i think, ever in such a short period. we haven't hit the we haven't hit the target. obviously, we are striving to maintain the quality. that's really important . i think there really important. i think there are factors which include both. i think the reputation of the organisation at the moment doesn't help recruiting . a man doesn't help recruiting. a man has been jailed for— t twtwtfit. . “w; a man has been jailed for assisting nine— has been jailed for assisting year— has been jailed for assisting nine year old— has been jailed for assisting nine year old olivia pratt—korbel murderer , 41 year pratt—korbel murderer, 41 year old pratt—korbel murderer, 41 year oiri nour— pratt—korbel murderer, 41 year old paul russell— pratt—korbel murderer, 41 year old paul russell pleaded guilty to old paul russell pleaded guilty ro driving— old paul russell pleaded guilty to driving thomas cashman after neo— to driving thomas cashman after ne-ri roroiiy— to driving thomas cashman after he'd fatally shot— to driving thomas cashman after he'd fatally shot the nine year old he'd fatally shot the nine year oiri gin— he'd fatally shot the nine year oiri giri in— he'd fatally shot the nine year old girl in liverpool last summer. he— old girl in liverpool last summer. he told police in the gays— summer. he told police in the toys errer— summer. he told police in the days after olivia's— summer. he told police in the days after olivia's death that
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coennon— days after olivia's death that cashman was— days after olivia's death that cashman was responsible for her rnureir— cashman was responsible for her rnurerir .— cashman was responsible for her murder , claiming— cashman was responsible for her murder , claiming he was not murder, claiming he was not or— murder, claiming he was not aware of this— murder, claiming he was not aware of this when he helped nin— aware of this when he helped nin. nee— aware of this when he helped him. he's been— aware of this when he helped him. he's been sentenced to 22 nonrne— him. he's been sentenced to 22 nonrne in— him. he's been sentenced to 22 months in prison— him. he's been sentenced to 22 months in prison .— him. he's been sentenced to 22 months in prison . russian months in prison. russian oppoeirion— months in prison. russian opposition leader alexei navalny eoye— opposition leader alexei navalny says on— opposition leader alexei navalny says an investigation has now been— says an investigation has now been opened— says an investigation has now been opened that could see him serve— been opened that could see him serve on— been opened that could see him serve on enro— been opened that could see him serve an extra 30— been opened that could see him serve an extra 30 years in jail. mr serve an extra 30 years in jail. on runny.— serve an extra 30 years in jail. mr navalny, who— serve an extra 30 years in jail. mr navalny, who is currently serving— mr navalny, who is currently serving on— mr navalny, who is currently serving on no— mr navalny, who is currently serving an 11.5 year sentence in jail serving an 11.5 year sentence in jail ,— serving an 11.5 year sentence in ioii . io— serving an 11.5 year sentence in ioii . is being— serving an 11.5 year sentence in jail, is being investigated on renonn— jail, is being investigated on terrorism charges, charges he onio— terrorism charges, charges he calls absurd. _ terrorism charges, charges he calls absurd. he— terrorism charges, charges he calls absurd. he survived an assassination— calls absurd. he survived an assassination attempt in 2020 errer— assassination attempt in 2020 errer being— assassination attempt in 2020 after being poisoned . the after being poisoned. the kreniin— after being poisoned. the kremlin denies any involvement . kremlin denies any involvement. ani— kremlin denies any involvement. ani kooky.— kremlin denies any involvement. ani ioeriy. ne— kremlin denies any involvement. and lastly, new data reveals the overoeg— and lastly, new data reveals the overoeg coer— and lastly, new data reveals the average cost of— and lastly, new data reveals the average cost of annual car insurance is now £107 more epenive— insurance is now £107 more expensive than— insurance is now £107 more expensive than it was a year ago. — expensive than it was a year ago. ine— expensive than it was a year ago. the research from one poll found— ago. the research from one poll found rnor— ago. the research from one poll found that the— ago. the research from one poll found that the average price of a found that the average price of o poiioy— found that the average price of o poiiey roken— found that the average price of a policy taken out— found that the average price of a policy taken out in the first rnree— a policy taken out in the first three months— a policy taken out in the first three months of— a policy taken out in the first three months of this year was took— three months of this year was fooi. inn-e— three months of this year was £637. that's the— three months of this year was £637. that's the highest since rney— £637. that's the highest since rney peeked— £637. that's the highest since rney peukeri in— £637. that's the highest since they peaked in 2011 on average. inope— they peaked in 2011 on average. those surveyed _ they peaked in 2011 on average.
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those surveyed were charged £53 for— those surveyed were charged £53 for men— those surveyed were charged £53 more for their annual price on an more for their annual price on on exiering— more for their annual price on an existing policy— more for their annual price on an existing policy . more for their annual price on an existing policy. us gb news. i'm an existing policy. us gb news. in peek— an existing policy. us gb news. in peek in— an existing policy. us gb news. i'm back in half— an existing policy. us gb news. i'm back in half an hour with see you— i'm back in half an hour with more. see you then . more. see you then. | per-s— more. see you then. i let's start- more. see you then. i let's start now. more. see you then. let's start now with a big, big day battle to get the day in the battle to get the migrant crisis under control. so the illegal migration bill is being debated in the house of commons secretary commons and the home secretary has arriving has said that migrants arriving on boats have values on small boats have values quotes at odds with british norms, with links to higher and levels of criminality . cue mass levels of criminality. cue mass hysteria. suella braverman made the comments as her legislation aimed at deterring people reaching uk shores illegally faced its final hurdle in the commons today, and ministers will vote on amendments to the illegal migration bill. this very evening if approved. those who arrive illegally via the engush who arrive illegally via the english channel will be detained and then either sent home or to
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and then either sent home or to a safe third country. such as rwanda. i am joined now by the man himself is mr nigel farage. nigel, thank you very, very much. first things first. what do you make of her comments? heightened levels of criminality, odds, values at odds ? gosh, i can't odds with our own? gosh, i can't think odds with our own? gosh, i can't rnink ne— odds with our own? gosh, i can't rnink ne vee— odds with our own? gosh, i can't think he was saying— odds with our own? gosh, i can't think he was saying this- 33 . , gosh, i can't think he was saying this a eoupie— think he was saying this a eoupielyeore- think he was saying this a couple years ago, couldn't think he was saying this a coupiand years ago, couldn't think he was saying this a coupiand being ago, couldn't think he was saying this a coupiand being absolutelyi't you? and being absolutely condemned— you? and being absolutely condemned for— you? and being absolutely condemned for daring to suggest euen— condemned for daring to suggest euon o— condemned for daring to suggest euon o king.— condemned for daring to suggest euon o rning. r— condemned for daring to suggest such a thing. i mean, you know unne— such a thing. i mean, you know vnore r— such a thing. i mean, you know vnore r voo— such a thing. i mean, you know what? i was clear— such a thing. i mean, you know what? i was clear albie eepoueing— what? i was clear albie espousing was a really vicious forn— espousing was a really vicious form or— espousing was a really vicious form or — espousing was a really vicious form of racism and bigotry and division.— form of racism and bigotry and division in— form of racism and bigotry and division. i'm delighted that the ionguoge— division. i'm delighted that the ionguoge noe— division. i'm delighted that the language has moved on. i'm ieiignrei— language has moved on. i'm delighted we've— language has moved on. i'm delighted we've got a home seererory— delighted we've got a home secretary with— delighted we've got a home secretary with the courage to coki— secretary with the courage to eoii ir— secretary with the courage to eoii ir nov— secretary with the courage to call it how it— secretary with the courage to call it how it is— secretary with the courage to call it how it is and on criminality— call it how it is and on criminality and the evidence. rre— criminality and the evidence. no mere— criminality and the evidence. we rnere on— criminality and the evidence. it's there on tiktok , you can it's there on tiktok, you can oeruoiiy— it's there on tiktok, you can oeruoiiy eee— it's there on tiktok, you can actually see the— it's there on tiktok, you can actually see the gangs on tiktok snowing— actually see the gangs on tiktok showing individuals coming into the showing individuals coming into rne county.— showing individuals coming into the country, joining drug gangs. and the country, joining drug gangs. no mere— the country, joining drug gangs. and there they— the country, joining drug gangs. and there they are, you know , and there they are, you know, virn — and there they are, you know, with thousands— and there they are, you know, with thousands and thousands of pounrie. — with thousands and thousands of pounrie. so— with thousands and thousands of pounds. so there's— with thousands and thousands of pounds. so there's no doubt that a pounds. so there's no doubt that u or— pounds. so there's no doubt that u or .— pounds. so there's no doubt that u or . weir.— pounds. so there's no doubt that a lot . well, the— pounds. so there's no doubt that a lot . well, the whole thing is a lot. well, the whole thing is orininot— a lot. well, the whole thing is criminal, isn't— a lot. well, the whole thing is criminal, isn't it?— a lot. well, the whole thing is criminal, isn't it? it's the orininoi— criminal, isn't it? it's the criminal gangs- criminal, isn't it? it's the criminal gangs that bring them in. ani— criminal gangs that bring them in. and-men- criminal gangs that bring them in. and _them do - criminal gangs that bring them in. and them do join in. and many of them do join orininoi— in. and many of them do join criminal networks . once they're criminal networks. once they're
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nee.— criminal networks. once they're here. mean everybody here. it doesn't mean everybody . uo— here. it doesn't mean everybody . uo-eoying— here. it doesn't mean everybody . no-saying that. - here. it doesn't mean everybody . no saying that. and the . no one's saying that. and the voueei— . no one's saying that. and the voueei or— . no one's saying that. and the values at odds— . no one's saying that. and the values at odds thing. what i rnougnr— values at odds thing. what i thought robert— values at odds thing. what i thought robert jenrick comments yeererioy—veryl yesterday were also very, very errong— yesterday were also very, very prong-look.- yesterday were also very, very strong-look, you- yesterday were also very, very strong look, you know, strong on this. look, you know, ire— strong on this. look, you know, to o— strong on this. look, you know, no u known— strong on this. look, you know, it's a known-that- strong on this. look, you know, it's a known-that if- strong on this. look, you know, it's a known that if you it's a known fact that if you put— it's a known fact that if you pur o— it's a known fact that if you pur u very— it's a known fact that if you pur u very iorge— it's a known fact that if you put a very large number of young noiee— put a very large number of young noiee vno— put a very large number of young males who come— put a very large number of young males who come from countries in onion— males who come from countries in union vvornen— males who come from countries in which women aren't— males who come from countries in which women aren't even second oioee— which women aren't even second eioee oirizene— which women aren't even second eioee eirizene .— which women aren't even second class citizens , don't— which women aren't even second class citizens , don't be class citizens, don't be surprised. — class citizens, don't be surprised. it's- class citizens, don't be surprised. t class citizens, don't be- surprised. it's not just that, is it? i mean, it's, you know, the lgbtq community. i don't think they're particularly large in lot of middle eastern in a lot of middle eastern countries. and i don't imagine that would do particularly that they would do particularly well afghanistan, that they would do particularly well aiandiistan, that they would do particularly well aiand then , same example. and then at the same time, expected a lot time, we're expected that a lot of would come over of people would come over here and integrate perfectly in our modern way of life. if you said a word this program that was a word on this program that was interpreted the interpreted by the lgbt community be prejudiced or community to be prejudiced or biased them, there'd be biased against them, there'd be hell you. hell to pay patrick for you. complaints to ofcom and hell to pay patrick for you. - complaints to ofcom and goodness knove— complaints to ofcom and goodness knove-eiee— complaints to ofcom and goodness knove-eiee yer— complaints to ofcom and goodness knows-else yet if— complaints to ofcom and goodness knows else yet if groups knows what else yet if groups in nee.— knows what else yet if groups come in here, who's attitudes rovorie— come in here, who's attitudes towards homosexuality ? well are towards homosexuality? well are fronkiy— towards homosexuality? well are frankly violent— towards homosexuality? well are frankly violent .— towards homosexuality? well are frankly violent . you know not frankly violent. you know not nor— frankly violent. you know not nor ro— frankly violent. you know not nor ro pur— frankly violent. you know not nor ro pur roo— frankly violent. you know not not to put too fine a point and rney— not to put too fine a point and rney eon-r— not to put too fine a point and rney eon-r eoy— not to put too fine a point and rney eon-r eoy o— not to put too fine a point and they don't say a word. it's quire— they don't say a word. it's quite extraordinary. look,
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neree— quite extraordinary. look, neree rne — quite extraordinary. look, here's the thing. here's the rning— here's the thing. here's the rning .— here's the thing. here's the thing . whether— here's the thing. here's the thing . whether it's through thing. whether it's through genuine— thing. whether it's through genuine sincerity or whether it's genuine sincerity or whether its rnrougn— genuine sincerity or whether it's through electoral pressure, the government— it's through electoral pressure, the government have realised rne— the government have realised over the course— the government have realised over the course of the last year rnor— over the course of the last year no rnie— over the course of the last year that this issue _ over the course of the last year that this issue could cost them the that this issue could cost them rne reo— that this issue could cost them rne reri vein— that this issue could cost them the red wall. yeah.— that this issue could cost them the red wall. yeah. so they've rougnenei— the red wall. yeah. so they've rougneneri up— the red wall. yeah. so they've toughened up the rhetoric. iney-re— toughened up the rhetoric. they're toughening up the legislation. _ they're toughening up the legislation. but at the same rime.— legislation. but at the same rine. vnen— legislation. but at the same time, when concerns get raised opour— time, when concerns get raised oiour rne— time, when concerns get raised about the lack— time, when concerns get raised about the lack of— time, when concerns get raised about the lack of compatibility virn — about the lack of compatibility virn rne — about the lack of compatibility with the principles enshrined virnin— with the principles enshrined virnin rne— with the principles enshrined within the echr_ with the principles enshrined within the echr , suella within the echr, suella poeiooiiy— within the echr, suella basically admits that it's not eonporipie— basically admits that it's not eonpuripie .— basically admits that it's not compatible , does it? very gently compatible, does it? very gently and kieni — compatible, does it? very gently and rishi sunak— compatible, does it? very gently and rishi sunak says there are no circumstances— and rishi sunak says there are no circumstances under which going— no circumstances under which going ro— no circumstances under which we're going to leave echr and so my guess— we're going to leave echr and so my guess is— we're going to leave echr and so my gueee ie rnor— we're going to leave echr and so my guess is that the game rney-re— my guess is that the game they're playing— my guess is that the game they're playing is to say to the onion— they're playing is to say to the british public,— they're playing is to say to the british public, hey, you know vnen— british public, hey, you know vnore vie— british public, hey, you know what? we think— british public, hey, you know what? we think the same as 70% of what? we think the same as 70% or you— what? we think the same as 70% or you iike— what? we think the same as 70% or you iike you.— what? we think the same as 70% of you like you. we're prepared to of you like you. we're prepared ro speak— of you like you. we're prepared ro epeok our— of you like you. we're prepared to speak out on— of you like you. we're prepared to speak out on your behalf. kyiv— to speak out on your behalf. kyiv nur— to speak out on your behalf. kyiv but these _ to speak out on your behalf. kyiv but these terrible, norriiie — kyiv but these terrible, horrible foreign are horrible foreign judges are eropping— horrible foreign judges are propping up— horrible foreign judges are stopping us making our own decisions.— stopping us making our own decisions. this— stopping us making our own decisions. this is brexit times to decisions. this is brexit times ro rne— decisions. this is brexit times ro rne earne— decisions. this is brexit times to the same arguments as eu members. well— to the same arguments as eu members. well we tried our best. keen.— members. well we tried our best. keen. pur— members. well we tried our best. keen. our in— members. well we tried our best. yeah, but i'm afraid— members. well we tried our best.
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yeah, but i'm afraid brussels vouion-r— yeah, but i'm afraid brussels vouiin-r ker— yeah, but i'm afraid brussels wouldn't let us— yeah, but i'm afraid brussels wouldn't let us so frankly, i rnink— wouldn't let us so frankly, i rnink unor— wouldn't let us so frankly, i think what will— wouldn't let us so frankly, i think what will happen is this viii— think what will happen is this viii roi— think what will happen is this will fail completely . they won't will fail completely. they won't erop — will fail completely. they won't erop rne — will fail completely. they won't stop the boats. _ will fail completely. they won't stop the boats. they'll keep the rney-ii— stop the boats. they'll keep the rney-ii up— stop the boats. they'll keep the rney-ii up rne— stop the boats. they'll keep the they'll up the ante on the rnerorie— they'll up the ante on the rhetoric and _ they'll up the ante on the rhetoric and they'll fight the nevr— rhetoric and they'll fight the next election _ rhetoric and they'll fight the next election on— rhetoric and they'll fight the next election on yeah. on on an icnk— next election on yeah. on on an icnk — next election on yeah. on on an echr issue. so— next election on yeah. on on an echr issue. so just— next election on yeah. on on an echr issue. ’wtw“ echr issue. so just on this illegal migration bill right now, i've just had some comments from theresa may come through here i'll put to you. i here which i'll put to you. i would say this is theresa may. i would say this is theresa may. i would a slap in the would say this is a slap in the face to those of us who actually care about victims modern care about the victims of modern slavery. suggests that slavery. it also suggests that those with this bill those dealing with this bill simply not understand simply do not understand the nature of these crimes. so what do you make of her saying that any bid to i suppose , lessen the any bid to i suppose, lessen the impact of modern slavery, people being able to claim being victims of modern slavery is a slap in the face to the genuine. well, i mean, that legislation rnor— well, i mean, that legislation run one— well, i mean, that legislation that she passed— well, i mean, that legislation that she passed in 2015, funky.— that she passed in 2015, frankly, has— that she passed in 2015, frankly, has been used and abused— frankly, has been used and opueeri py— frankly, has been used and abused by people from albania. anoi— abused by people from albania. and you— abused by people from albania. one you weir.— abused by people from albania. and you wait. there'll be iniione— and you wait. there'll be inoione .— and you wait. there'll be indians , young indians who been indians, young indians who been coming— indians, young indians who been coming rnie— indians, young indians who been coming this year— indians, young indians who been coming this year who'll do the snee— coming this year who'll do the same. she's given— coming this year who'll do the same. she's given people a lever
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so same. she's given people a lever eo rnor— same. she's given people a lever so no rney— same. she's given people a lever so that they can— same. she's given people a lever so that they can use— same. she's given people a lever so that they can use to claim oeyiun— so that they can use to claim oeyiun non — so that they can use to claim asylum from countries where you enouii— asylum from countries where you enouiri nor— asylum from countries where you enouiri nor pe— asylum from countries where you should not be allowed to claim oeyiun— should not be allowed to claim oeyiun. vou— should not be allowed to claim asylum. you know,— should not be allowed to claim asylum. you know, they'll come in, asylum. you know, they'll come in. rney-ii— asylum. you know, they'll come in, they'll claim _ asylum. you know, they'll come in, they'll claim their traffic. iney-ii— in, they'll claim their traffic. iney-ii use— in, they'll claim their traffic. they'll use her— in, they'll claim their traffic. they'll use her legislation. so, you— they'll use her legislation. so, you know.— they'll use her legislation. so, you know, frankly,— they'll use her legislation. so, you know, frankly, she's about the you know, frankly, she's about rne ioer— you know, frankly, she's about the last person— you know, frankly, she's about the last person on earth i'm going— the last person on earth i'm going ro— the last person on earth i'm going to listen— the last person on earth i'm going to listen to on this. okay. — going to listen to on this. okay. look.— going to listen to on this. okay. look, nigel,- going to listen to on this. okay. look, nigel, thank you very much. and just a quick throw you'll be later, throw ahead. you'll be on later, won't what you got won't you? what do you got coming up? well, we'll have the voere— coming up? well, we'll have the voere eo ve-ii— coming up? well, we'll have the votes, so we'll see— wt.wtwt“ “g t. 37 well, we'll have the votes, so we'll see whether rnere— votes, so we'll see whether rnere io— votes, so we'll see whether rnere is o— votes, so we'll see whether there is a rebellion the there is a rebellion within the coneervorive— conservative party. we know nor.— conservative party. we know- that,_buckland that, you know robert buckland and that, you know robert buckland one—rnie— that, you know robert buckland uni—rnie ore- that, you know robert buckland and this are saying, that, you know robert buckland andwell, this are saying, that, you know robert buckland andwell, this this are saying, that, you know robert buckland andwell, this musts are saying, that, you know robert buckland andwell, this must note saying, that, you know robert buckland andwell, this must not applyig, that, you know robert buckland andwell, this must not apply to oh, well, this must not apply to py— oh, well, this must not apply to miners, by which _ oh, well, this must not apply to miners, by which he means people vno— miners, by which he means people vno-pe— miners, by which he means people vno-ie ri— miners, by which he means people vno-ie ii pur— miners, by which he means people who-be 17 but are- miners, by which he means people who be 17 but are 42. who claim to be 17 but are 42. i mink.— who claim to be 17 but are 42. i rnink. no— who claim to be 17 but are 42. i think, no, there— who claim to be 17 but are 42. i think, no, there will— who claim to be 17 but are 42. i think, no, there will be some oniiriren— think, no, there will be some oniiriren in— think, no, there will be some children in there. _ think, no, there will be some children in there. so we'll look at children in there. so we'll look or-inpoor— children in there. so we'll look or-inpoor or— children in there. so we'll look at-impact of the- children in there. so we'll look at impact of the vote. i've at the impact of the vote. i've no riouin— at the impact of the vote. i've no doubt that— at the impact of the vote. i've no doubt that it'll— at the impact of the vote. i've no doubt that it'll sail rnrougn. — no doubt that it'll sail through. there'll be half a dozen— through. there'll be half a dozen abstentions. we'll talk opour— dozen abstentions. we'll talk oiour rnie. — dozen abstentions. we'll talk about this. i'm— dozen abstentions. we'll talk about this. i'm also really inrereerei— about this. i'm also really interested _fact- about this. i'm also really interested fact that if interested in the fact that if peopie— interested in the fact that if peopie no— interested in the fact that if people now rich— interested in the fact that if people now rich visitors that used— people now rich visitors that used ro— people now rich visitors that used to come— people now rich visitors that used to come to— people now rich visitors that used to come to london and shop in none— used to come to london and shop in none srreer— used to come to london and shop in bond street are— used to come to london and shop in bond street are more likely to in bond street are more likely ro go— in bond street are more likely ro go ro— in bond street are more likely ro go o none— in bond street are more likely to go to paris or— in bond street are more likely to go to paris or rome to do so now because isn't— to go to paris or rome to do so now because isn't it funny, we ierr— now because isn't it funny, we ierr rne— now because isn't it funny, we left the european _ now because isn't it funny, we left the european union to get more economic— left the european union to get more economic freedom and yet
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the more economic freedom and yet rne eu— more economic freedom and yet rne in is— more economic freedom and yet the eu is still— more economic freedom and yet the eu is still vat— more economic freedom and yet the eu is still vat for outside enoppere— the eu is still vat for outside enoppere .— the eu is still vat for outside enoppere . kni— the eu is still vat for outside shoppers . and yet we've put vat shoppers. and yet we've put vat peek— shoppers. and yet we've put vat peek on — shoppers. and yet we've put vat back on continues— shoppers. and yet we've put vat back on continues to commit norionoi— back on continues to commit norionoi eere— back on continues to commit national acts of— back on continues to commit national acts of deliberate sen—norm.— national acts of deliberate self—harm. yeah. and kwasi kvoneng— self—harm. yeah. and kwasi kvuneng oni— self—harm. yeah. and kwasi kwarteng and liz truss. whatever you rnink— kwarteng and liz truss. whatever you rnink or— kwarteng and liz truss. whatever you think of that— kwarteng and liz truss. whatever you think of that budget, they on-rignr— you think of that budget, they were on right track with were on the right track with rnie— were on the right track with rnie-r— were on the right track with rnie-r vvoe— were on the right track with this i was applauding this this and i was applauding this at this and i was applauding this or me— this and i was applauding this at the - because - this and i was applauding this at the -because i- this and i was applauding this at the because i talked at the time because i talked opour— at the time because i talked opour-rne— at the time because i talked about the previous couple about it in the previous couple of about it in the previous couple or—rereny- about it in the previous couple or—rereny nunr- of years. and jeremy hunt appeare— of years. and jeremy hunt oppeorelpe— of years. and jeremy hunt appears be implacable. having appears to be implacable. having enri— appears to be implacable. having one-.— appears to be implacable. having eon-loony— appears to be implacable. having said -,-daily mail- said that, the daily mail eunpoign— said that, the daily mail- campaign—running campaign that they're running virn— campaign that they're running virn roo— campaign that they're running now with 100 major companies in euppon— now with 100 major companies in euppon .— now with 100 major companies in euppon . r— now with 100 major companies in euppon . r rnink— now with 100 major companies in support , i think this is just support, i think this is just pioin— support, i think this is just plain common— support, i think this is just plain common sense. there is a counter—argument,— plain common sense. there is a counter—argument, though , which counter—argument, though, which says.— counter—argument, though, which says ney.— counter—argument, though, which says key. you— counter—argument, though, which says key. you know— counter—argument, though, which says, hey, you know what, porrieke— says, hey, you know what, porrieke-go- says, hey, you know what,j patrick? - go - a patrick? you go and buy a veering— patrick? you go and buy a wedding ring— patrick? you go and buy a wedding ring and you've got to pay wedding ring and you've got to pay zero— wedding ring and you've got to pay zero-so— wedding ring and you've got to pay zone-so uny- wedding ring and you've got to pay 20% so why should you pay 20% vat. so why should you nove — pay 20% vat. so why should you nove ro — pay 20% vat. so why should you nove ro pey— pay 20% vat. so why should you nove ro pay me— pay 20% vat. so why should you have to pay the vat when some veoirny— have to pay the vat when some veoirny peon— have to pay the vat when some wealthy person from dubai can oni— wealthy person from dubai can one paye— wealthy person from dubai can come and pay? well, when you put it come and pay? well, when you put ir iike— come and pay? well, when you put ir iike nor.— come and pay? well, when you put ir iike rnor. — come and pay? well, when you put it like that. okay,— come and pay? well, when you put it like that. ©4th so come and pay? well, when you put it like that. so there it like that. okay, so. so there is no— it like that. okay, so. so there is no pur— it like that. okay, so. so there is no but there— it like that. okay, so. so there is no but there is— it like that. okay, so. so there is no but there is a— it like that. so there is no but there is a debate nee.— is no but there is a debate nere. inere— is no but there is a debate here. there is— is no but there is a debate here. there is a- is no but there is a debate here. there is a debate here, our— here. there is a debate here, our ire— here. there is a debate here, but it's still— here. there is a debate here, but it's still an— here. there is a debate here, but it's still an act of self—harm. - but it's still an act of self—harm. t: but it's still an act of- self—harm. good stuff, nigel. great stuff. thank you very, very much. nigel farage will be on your screens in, well, what, about an hour and 45 minutes? so there go. right now joining there we go. right now joining me mp tim
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me is conservative mp tim loughton great stuff. i loughton as well. great stuff. i believe. we tim, how believe. here we go. tim, how are you? of all, most are you? first of all, most pretty stressed. it's been a busy pretty stressed. it's been a puny-pur— pretty stressed. it's been a busy-but okay. - pretty stressed. it's been aj busy-but okay. right. pretty stressed. it's been a busy but okay. right. so we busy day, but okay. right. so we where are you on this then? so i understand. just go on. i don't want put words in your mouth, want to put words in your mouth, but you hoping to soften but are you hoping to soften this you tim, have you this bill? are you tim, have you got me? tim yep. you kept freezing. — got me? tim yep. you kept freezing. con— got me? tim yep. you kept freezing. can you- gwtw. t“wt;7 yep. you kept freezing. can you hear me now? on— freezing. can you hear me now? on. sorry. are— freezing. can you hear me now? on. sorry. are you. — freezing. can you hear me now? oh, sorry. are you. are- freezing. can you hear me now? o“ are you. are you oh, sorry. are you. are you noping— oh, sorry. are you. are you noping ro— oh, sorry. are you. are you hoping to soften- o“ are you. are you hoping to soften this illegal nigrorion— hoping to soften this illegal migration bill?— hoping to soften this illegal migration bill? are you are you concerned about— migration bill? are you are you concerned about the impact it nignr— concerned about the impact it might-children?- concerned about the impact it might children? that might have on children? is that rignr— might have on children? is that rignr e — might have on children? is that rignr e r— might have on children? is that rignr e r ion-r— might have on children? is that right ? i don't want- might have on children? is that right ? 3“ . might have on children? is that right? i don't want to soften this illegal migration bill. i want to get a proper balance. we need have some really tough need to have some really tough measures in it to crack down on the people smugglers those the people smugglers and those non—genuine who the people smugglers and those nongamingie who the people smugglers and those nongamingie system who the people smugglers and those nongamingie system in who the people smugglers and those nongamingie system in orderho are gaming the system in order to a balance that , you to give a balance to that, you need sure we have got need to make sure we have got proper, safe and legal routes to genuine asylum to whom genuine asylum seekers to whom traditionally has traditionally this country has given of care and i'm given a duty of care and i'm particularly concerned about children because it stands, children because as it stands, we be locking up children we could be locking up children for extended periods and that's completely contravenes the children's act. i want some
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children's act. so i want some balance in this and i've had some assurances from the minister that they'll some assurances from the minis'forward that they'll some assurances from the minis'forward furtheriey'll some assurances from the minis'forward further measures bring forward further measures when the house when the bill goes to the house of how do we that of lords. how do we get that right, tim? how do we in turn poionoe— right, tim? how do we in turn poionoe rnor— right, tim? how do we in turn balance that with— right, tim? how do we in turn balance that with the- . g“. 7 how do we in turn balance that with the idea, the veri— balance that with the idea, the veiilreoiiry— balance that with the idea, the well, reality really that well, the reality really that rnere—orel well, the reality really that- there _ are posing there are adults who are posing as eniiiren— there are adults who are posing as children who— there are adults who are posing as children who in— there are adults who are posing as children who in turn pose a near.— as children who in turn pose a rnreor. so— as children who in turn pose a threat. so how— as children who in turn pose a threat. so how do— as children who in turn pose a threat. so how do we marry those rvo— threat. so how do we marry those rvo rninge— threat. so how do we marry those rvo rninge upe— threat. so how do we marry those two things up? not— threat. so how do we marry those two things up? not without some form— two things up? not without some form or— two things up? not without some form or .— two things up? not without some form or . r— two things up? not without some form of , i suppose,— two things up? not without some form of, i suppose, medical intervention— form of, i suppose, medical intervention or— form of, i suppose, medical intervention or or test to definitively— intervention or or test to definitively say that this pron— definitively say that this peon io— definitively say that this peon is o— definitively say that this person is a child, maybe ? �*fvw�*wt;.. person is a child, maybe? well, the person is a child, maybe? well, rne nt— person is a child, maybe? well, rne niii nov— person is a child, maybe? well, the bill now includes measures to bring forward age verification tests. and if people verification tests. and if peopie eon-r— verification tests. and if people don't agree- t“ and if people don't agree to have verification tests. and if- people don't agree to have them . rnen— people don't agree to have them . rnen ir— people don't agree to have them .rnen ir viii— people don't agree to have them , then it will completely undermine— , then it will completely undermine their claim to be a onio— undermine their claim to be a eniii .— undermine their claim to be a eniii . anoi— undermine their claim to be a child . and what— undermine their claim to be a child . and what i'm really child. and what i'm really worried— child. and what i'm really worried about— child. and what i'm really worried about as well is mixing up oiuire— worried about as well is mixing up uriuire virn— worried about as well is mixing up adults with genuine children inere— up adults with genuine children inere ore— up adults with genuine children there are safeguarding issues mere.— there are safeguarding issues rnere. so— there are safeguarding issues rnere. so i— there are safeguarding issues there. so i want— there are safeguarding issues there. so i want to make sure rnor— there. so i want to make sure no genuine— there. so i want to make sure that genuine children who are eieoriy— that genuine children who are clearly children— that genuine children who are clearly children are in an oppropriure— clearly children are in an appropriate place under whatever oerenrion— appropriate place under whatever oerenrion for— appropriate place under whatever detention for a— appropriate place under whatever detention for a shorter period as detention for a shorter period up poeeipie— detention for a shorter period as possible. whilst their claims are as possible. whilst their claims processed.— as possible. whilst their claims are processed, and— as possible. whilst their claims are processed, and whether they enouii— are processed, and whether they enouiri rnen— are processed, and whether they should then end— are processed, and whether they should then end up in a proper
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piooenenr— should then end up in a proper pioeenenr in— should then end up in a proper placement in this— should then end up in a proper placement in this country or nor.— placement in this country or nor. nur— placement in this country or not. but those _ placement in this country or not. but those and it's about non— not. but those and it's about non of— not. but those and it's about noir or peopie— not. but those and it's about half of people who masquerade as eniioren— half of people who masquerade as oniiriren oni— half of people who masquerade as children and turn— half of people who masquerade as children and turn out not to be. vie-re— children and turn out not to be. vve-re propopiy— children and turn out not to be. we're probably going to have to nove— we're probably going to have to have some greater— we're probably going to have to have some greater safeguards ounri— have some greater safeguards ouni nor.— have some greater safeguards around that. but— have some greater safeguards around that. but the whole lot neede— around that. but the whole lot neeie ro— around that. but the whole lot neeie ro pe— around that. but the whole lot needs to be speeded up. the propien— needs to be speeded up. the propien io— needs to be speeded up. the problem is it's— needs to be speeded up. the problem is it's taking far too iong— problem is it's taking far too iong ro— problem is it's taking far too long to process— problem is it's taking far too long to process people's claims in rnie— long to process people's claims in rnie oounrry— long to process people's claims in this country anyway. so rnere-e— in this country anyway. so rnere-e o— in this country anyway. so there's a lot— in this country anyway. so there's a lot of- in this country anyway. so there's a lot of work still to do from — there's a lot of work still to do from me— there's a lot of work still to do from the from government do from the from the governmenti ._assntanees from . we've got some assurances from the . we've got some assurances from rne innigrorion— . we've got some assurances from the immigration minister today, but the immigration minister today, our—ro— the immigration minister today, our—ro nove- the immigration minister today, but—to have to. but they're going to have to rroneiore— but they're going to have to translate - solid, - but they're going to have to translate solid, hard , translate into solid, hard, oeroiieri— translate into solid, hard, detailed recommendations in the bill detailed recommendations in the piii vnen— detailed recommendations in the piii vnen ir— detailed recommendations in the bill when it goes— detailed recommendations in the bill when it goes to the to the house— bill when it goes to the to the house or— bill when it goes to the to the house of lords.— bill when it goes to the to the house of lords. but at the rnornenr— house of lords. but at the rnornenr in— house of lords. but at the moment i'm relatively satisfied. look.— moment i'm relatively satisfied. look. r— moment i'm relatively satisfied. look. i won— moment i'm relatively satisfied. look, i want this— moment i'm relatively satisfied. look, i want this bill to succeed r— look, i want this bill to succeed. i want us clamp succeed. i want us to clamp down on rneee— succeed. i want us to clamp down on rneee peopie— succeed. i want us to clamp down on these people who— succeed. i want us to clamp down on these people who are trading in nunon— on these people who are trading in nunon-nur- on these people who are trading in human-but-got| in human misery. but we've got to in human misery. but we've got ro—ion-r- in human misery. but we've got to_don't throw. in human misery. but we've goti to_don't throw the to make sure we don't throw the papy— to make sure we don't throw the baby our— to make sure we don't throw the baby our virn— to make sure we don't throw the baby out with the— to make sure we don't throw the baby out with the bathwater and make— baby out with the bathwater and make eureeoni— baby out with the bathwater and make sure can still have a make sure we can still have a iireiine— make sure we can still have a lifeline-genuine— lifeline to genuine asylum seekers, and particularly unaccompanied seekers, and particularly - unaccompanied-escaping unaccompanied children escaping non— unaccompanied children escaping from piooee— unaccompanied children escaping from pieces or— unaccompanied children escaping from places of danger. ."wt:”wtl from places of danger. is there is there— from places of danger. is there is rnere n— from places of danger. is there is there a concern like we're seeing now? apparently new reports suggest that indians have overtaken albanians as the second largest cohort of people
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coming across the channel india 7 coming across the channel india ? let's be honest, it's a relatively safe country , relatively safe country, certainly not an out and out war zone. certainly not an out and out war zone . and is there a concern zone. and is there a concern that the uk has already become a sponge for the world's problems ? do you think ? look, i don't ? do you think? look, i don't iike— ? do you think? look, i don't iike ro— ? do you think? look, i don't iike ro use— ? do you think? look, i don't like to use the— ? do you think? look, i don't like to use the word- 7’ iwtw “
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again because it is seized. and we've we've seen— again because it is seized. and we've we've seen that happen in the we've we've seen that happen in rne in— we've we've seen that happen in rne in ne— we've we've seen that happen in rne in rne peer— we've we've seen that happen in rne in rne poor .— we've we've seen that happen in the in the past. i'm— we've we've seen that happen in the in the past. i'm not punieuiuriy— the in the past. i'm not particularly concerned about vnor— particularly concerned about vnorrne— particularly concerned about what the ultimate numbers are. winer— what the ultimate numbers are. we in— what the ultimate numbers are. what i'm concerned about that what i'm concerned about is that we what i'm concerned about is that ve—oeyiun- what i'm concerned about is that we_asylum seekersi we take genuine asylum seekers in o— we take genuine asylum seekers in a sustainable— we take genuine asylum seekers in a sustainable and orderly way vnere— in a sustainable and orderly way vnere ve— in a sustainable and orderly way where we can offer— in a sustainable and orderly way where we can offer them homes. vie-ve— where we can offer them homes. vie-ve eriii— where we can offer them homes. vie-ve eriii gor— where we can offer them homes. we've still got 9000 legal argnoni— we've still got 9000 legal afghani people. we airlifted peek— afghani people. we airlifted peek in— afghani people. we airlifted peek in ne— afghani people. we airlifted back in the summer of 21 in noreie— back in the summer of 21 in hotels here,— back in the summer of 21 in hotels here, which just shows the hotels here, which just shows rne propien— hotels here, which just shows the problem we've got able to provide— the problem we've got able to provirie proper— the problem we've got able to provide proper accommodation. so we need— provide proper accommodation. so we need ro— provide proper accommodation. so we need o oo— provide proper accommodation. so we need to do it— provide proper accommodation. so we need to do it in— we need to do it in a sustainable- we need to do it in a sustainable way that's fair to rukpuyere— sustainable way that's fair to our taxpayers and fair to people vno— our taxpayers and fair to people vno need— our taxpayers and fair to people vno neei ro— our taxpayers and fair to people who need to use— our taxpayers and fair to people who need to use hotels, but generuiiy— who need to use hotels, but generally offers— who need to use hotels, but generally offers safety to genuine — generally offers safety to genuine asylum seekers of whom we rake— genuine asylum seekers of whom we roke o— genuine asylum seekers of whom we can take a limited number. all we can take a limited number. kii right.— we can take a limited number. on rignr. look.— we can take a limited number. all right. look, tim,— we can take a limited number. all right. look, tim, thank- we can take a limited number. all right. look, tim, thank you very much. absolutely pleasure. tim loughton, there is a conservative mp just filling you in migration in on this illegal migration bill. tuned bill. make sure you stay tuned for gb news because we will be bringing you the votes on that. for gb news because we will be brin verdictu the votes on that. for gb news because we will be brin verdict ashe votes on that. for gb news because we will be brin verdict as it votes on that. for gb news because we will be brin verdict as it were, on that. for gb news because we will be brin verdict as it were, lateriat. for gb news because we will be brin verdict as it were, later on the verdict as it were, later on tonight, to go through tonight, expected to go through a abstentions a few abstentions here, there and everywhere, sure it and everywhere, but i'm sure it will. i'm not sure almost will. well i'm not sure almost sure will through. so sure it will go through. so there go. we'll have a debate there we go. we'll have a debate a little later on in this hour, actually, whether have
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actually, whether we have a moral responsibility to take refugees but now refugees from sudan. but now to andrew who's andrew bridgen, who's been kicked the conservative kicked out of the conservative party the party after he compared the covid to as large a covid 19 vaccines to as large a scale the biggest human victarion disaster since the holocaust. now, i spoke to him earlier on bridgen was also found to have breached lobbying rules by a disciplinary panel. he says that he's been expelled from the party, quote, under false pretences . he's very false pretences. he's very disappointed that the party have leaked this out . as i understand leaked this out. as i understand it , confidentiality— leaked this out. as i understand it , confidentiality was- 3 as i understand it , confidentiality was required it, confidentiality was required for me— it, confidentiality was required for me ro— it, confidentiality was required for me o pe— it, confidentiality was required for me to be able— it, confidentiality was required for me to be able to appeal ogoiner— for me to be able to appeal uguiner rne— for me to be able to appeal against the unwarranted ekpuieion— against the unwarranted expulsion from the conservative pony. — expulsion from the conservative pony. r— expulsion from the conservative pony. rrnink— expulsion from the conservative party. i think it's— expulsion from the conservative party. i think it's completely spurious— party. i think it's completely spurious, and— party. i think it's completely spurious, and i've issued a repurroi— spurious, and i've issued a rebuttal document now to the punk.— rebuttal document now to the pupiie. vnien— rebuttal document now to the public, which i— rebuttal document now to the public, which i sent to hq some days— public, which i sent to hq some days ago— public, which i sent to hq some days ago .— public, which i sent to hq some days ago . r— public, which i sent to hq some days ago . i couldn't even get days ago. i couldn't even get rnen— days ago. i couldn't even get rnen ro— days ago. i couldn't even get them to respond— days ago. i couldn't even get them to respond .— days ago. i couldn't even get them to respond . despite them to respond. despite repeoreo— them to respond. despite repeated requests for them to confirm— repeated requests for them to confirm they'd _ repeated requests for them to confirm they'd received it . confirm they'd received it. uorning— confirm they'd received it. nothing back— confirm they'd received it. nothing back from various emails at nothing back from various emails or cong—
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nothing back from various emails or an .— nothing back from various emails or an . r— nothing back from various emails or an . r io— nothing back from various emails at cchq . i do recall— nothing back from various emails at cchq . i do recall that over at cchq. i do recall that over me— at cchq. i do recall that over the so—called_ at cchq. i do recall that over the so—called offensive tweet i euepenoeo— the so—called offensive tweet i was suspended within within an nour— was suspended within within an iron or— was suspended within within an iron or so . so— was suspended within within an hour or so . so i— was suspended within within an hour or so . so i don't know how hour or so. so i don't know how rney— hour or so. so i don't know how rney reeponi— hour or so. so i don't know how rney reeponri ro— hour or so. so i don't know how they respond to complaints when rney— they respond to complaints when rney neve— they respond to complaints when they never respond— they respond to complaints when they never respond to my eonpioinre— they never respond to my eonpioinre .— they never respond to my complaints . well that's that's complaints. well that's that's rnor-e— complaints. well that's that's that's incorrect. _ complaints. well that's that's that's incorrect. the tweet in gueerion— that's incorrect. the tweet in gueerion r— that's incorrect. the tweet in question i was— that's incorrect. the tweet in question i was retweeting a worki— question i was retweeting a world leading— question i was retweeting a world leading cardiologist and a paper— world leading cardiologist and a paper non— world leading cardiologist and a paper from rne— world leading cardiologist and a paper from the from a criminal progni — paper from the from a criminal draghi doctorate— paper from the from a criminal draghi doctorate of the hebrew univereiry— draghi doctorate of the hebrew univereiry or— draghi doctorate of the hebrew university of jerusalem . and the university of jerusalem. and the guore — university of jerusalem. and the guore r— university of jerusalem. and the quote i retweeted— university of jerusalem. and the quote i retweeted from the cardiologist— quote i retweeted from the cardiologist was that the vaccine rollout was the biggest cine— vaccine rollout was the biggest ogoiner— vaccine rollout was the biggest crime against humanity since .the noiooouer.— crime against humanity since .the holocaust. that— crime against humanity since .the holocaust. that is— crime against humanity since .the holocaust. that is neither denying— holocaust. that is neither oenying rne— holocaust. that is neither denying the holocaust or or peiirriing— denying the holocaust or or belittling the— denying the holocaust or or belittling the holocaust. it's using— belittling the holocaust. it's ueing rne— belittling the holocaust. it's using the holocaust as a moment in rime— using the holocaust as a moment in rine one— using the holocaust as a moment in time and saying— using the holocaust as a moment in time and saying that that rnor— in time and saying that that no me— in time and saying that that that the rollout_ in time and saying that that that the rollout of the vaccines is that the rollout of the vaccines ie rne — that the rollout of the vaccines ie rne piggeer— that the rollout of the vaccines is the biggest crime against nunoniry— is the biggest crime against humanity since— is the biggest crime against humanity since the holocaust . humanity since the holocaust. vern- — humanity since the holocaust. vern- r— humanity since the holocaust. vern- ivouiu— humanity since the holocaust. yeah. i would urge— humanity since the holocaust. yeah. i would urge you- humanity since the holocaust. yeah. i would urge you to- humanity since the holocaust. yeah. i would urge you to go and have a look at that interview in
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full actually online. it will be available on our social media. gb news. also check it gb news. you can also check it out on youtube as well. it was quite ranging, really. also quite wide ranging, really. also went to say rather a lot went on to say rather a lot about the current state of the conservative party and how he felt party was going felt the party was doing going forward whether or not forward and whether or not there was bit concerted was a bit of a concerted attempt, in his view, to maybe oust stalwarts, i suppose, oust some stalwarts, i suppose, oust some stalwarts, i andrew, of the tory party. look andrew, of the tory party. look andrew, of made a lot claims of course, made a lot of claims about the covid 19 vaccine dunng about the covid 19 vaccine during interview with me, during that interview with me, and said that he has the and he said that he has the right to freedom speech, right to freedom of speech, which course he does, and to which of course he does, and to express genuine, legitimate concerns vaccine. concerns about the vaccine. and i certainly absolutely no i certainly have absolutely no issues doing that at issues with him doing that at all. nhs website says his all. the nhs website says his covid 19 vaccination is safe and effective . it gives you the best effective. it gives you the best protection against covid 19. andrew of course, and andrew bridgen of course, and indeed quite a few other people would other claims. so would make other claims. so there after a shocking there we go. after a shocking report. now moving on, a shocking report now into the number sexual assaults in number of sexual assaults in hospitals. nurses hospitals. should nurses wear body so picture body cameras? so picture yourself. you're in hospital. you're patient most you're a patient. you're most vulnerable most stressed vulnerable at your most stressed out nurse comes in and she's
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filming the whole how filming the whole thing. how do you i'm you feel about that? i'm
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news radio . okay. loads \w ?t: okay. loads more news radio. okay. loads more coming— news radio. okay. loads more coming our— news radio. okay. loads more coming voy— news radio. okay. loads more coming our way, but- \w 3tiw: okay. loads more coming our way, but we start now virn— coming our way, but we start now virn nureee— coming our way, but we start now with nurses wearing— coming our way, but we start now with nurses wearing potentially pooy— with nurses wearing potentially poriy oorneroe— with nurses wearing potentially body cameras after a report uncovered a shocking number of ropes— uncovered a shocking number of ropee unri— uncovered a shocking number of rupee one eevuoi— uncovered a shocking number of rapes and sexual assaults in noepiroie. — rapes and sexual assaults in hospitals. more— rapes and sexual assaults in hospitals. more than 6500 orrenoee— hospitals. more than 6500 offences took _ hospitals. more than 6500 offences took place in less than four— offences took place in less than four yeore— offences took place in less than four yeore up— offences took place in less than four yeore up ro— offences took place in less than four years up to last october. nur— four years up to last october. our ir— four years up to last october. our ir gor— four years up to last october. on ir gor ne— four years up to last october. but it got me thinking, okay, in — but it got me thinking, okay, in eonpiereiy— but it got me thinking, okay, i'm completely understand all of this i'm completely understand all of rnie enri— i'm completely understand all of rnie one nor— i'm completely understand all of this and that terrible . and this and that is terrible. and if this and that is terrible. and ir-eorery— this and that is terrible. and ir-eorery ro- this and that is terrible. and if-safety to the - if it brings safety to the nurses or perceived safety to me— nurses or perceived safety to rne — nurses or perceived safety to the nurses, great— nurses or perceived safety to the nurses, great thing. but vner— the nurses, great thing. but what-patients. the nurses, great thing. but what patients as the nurses, great thing. but- what-patients as well? what about the patients as well? if what about the patients as well? n youe— what about the patients as well? if you iying— what about the patients as well? if you're lying there in your nour— if you're lying there in your nour-onri- if you're lying there in your hour- and you're. if you're lying there in your- hour-and you're already hour of need and you're already a hour of need and you're already glori— hour of need and you're already oloii over— hour of need and you're already a.all over the— hour of need and you're already a all over the place and a bit all over the place and a lot a bit all over the place and a or or— a bit all over the place and a or or poin— a bit all over the place and a lot of pain, how— a bit all over the place and a lot of pain, how do you feel opour— lot of pain, how do you feel oiour noyie— lot of pain, how do you feel about maybe your human rights? do about maybe your human rights? po-eoneenr— about maybe your human rights? po-eoneenr-ro- about maybe your human rights? do-consent-to be- do you consent really to be fined— do you consent really to be fined in— do you consent really to be filmed in that— do you consent really to be filmed in that specific situation?— filmed in that specific situation? through situation? let's just go through or— situation? let's just go through or me— situation? let's just go through some of the findings of this epon— some of the findings of this repon.-ie— some of the findings of this report,-is from - some of the findings of this report, is from the report, which is from the women-— report, which is from the women's rights network. so there verelroroi— women's rights network. so there verelroroi or— women's rights network. so there were ltotal of 6539— women's rights network. so there were total of 6539 rapes and were a total of 6539 rapes and eevuoi— were a total of 6539 rapes and sexual assaults— were a total of 6539 rapes and sexual assaults in— were a total of 6539 rapes and sexual assaults in hospitals perveen—
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sexual assaults in hospitals between january 2019 and october zon— between january 2019 and october zorn. 22.— between january 2019 and october zorn. 22. ronr— between january 2019 and october 20th, 22, 1021 of— between january 2019 and october 20th, 22, 1021 of those offences rook— 20th, 22, 1021 of those offences rook piece— 20th, 22, 1021 of those offences rook piece on— 20th, 22, 1021 of those offences took place on hospital wards. zes— took place on hospital wards. zoo peopie— took place on hospital wards. 265 people were— took place on hospital wards. 265 people were charged, which is 265 people were charged, which ie puer— 265 people were charged, which ie iuer er.— 265 people were charged, which ie iuer er. so— 265 people were charged, which is just 4.1. so not— 265 people were charged, which is just 4.1. so not all police roee— is just 4.1. so not all police forces responded- is just 4.1. so not all police forces responded to this freedom of information— forces responded to this freedom of information request, and the women-— of information request, and the women's rights— of information request, and the women's rights network points out women's rights network points our rnor— women's rights network points out that these _ women's rights network points out that these crimes are often unrierreponeri— out that these crimes are often unrierreponeri .— out that these crimes are often underreported . so— out that these crimes are often underreported . so basically they underreported. so basically they rnink— underreported. so basically they rnink rne— underreported. so basically they think the actual— underreported. so basically they think the actual number of ie— think the actual number of crimes is probably a lot higher. joining— crimes is probably a lot higher. joining-“ow— crimes is probably a lot higher. joining-“ow ie— crimes is probably a lot higher. joining now is heather joining me now is heather penning.— joining me now is heather penning. vno— joining me now is heather benning, who is from the women's kignre— benning, who is from the women's kignre uervork. — benning, who is from the women's rights network. themselves, gren— rights network. themselves, greor erurr. — rights network. themselves, great stuff. thank you very muon— great stuff. thank you very much, heather.— great stuff. thank you very much, heather. great have much, heather. great to have you on me— much, heather. great to have you on rne enov— much, heather. great to have you on rne enov .— much, heather. great to have you on the show . right.— much, heather. great to have you on the show . right. should on the show. right. should nureee-poriy- on the show. right. should nurses body cameras ? on the show. right. should- nurses-body cameras ? well, nurses wear body cameras? well, if riot-e— nurses wear body cameras? well, if more a— nurses wear body cameras? well, if more a yes— nurses wear body cameras? well, if that's a yes and— nurses wear body cameras? well, if that's a yes and no question right now, i would . drugs right now, i would. drugs prescribed drugs , of course, in prescribed drugs, of course, in a very vulnerable position. you can't consent to somebody coming in and filming you in the position. how ever they're i think it's a lot more nuanced than that. and this came out of
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conversations— than that. and this came out of conversations that— than that. and this came out of conversations that had - ’.�*e�* and this came out of conversations that had taken piece— conversations that had taken piece in— conversations that had taken place in government at the nigneer— place in government at the highest level— place in government at the highest level and talking about vner— highest level and talking about we ore— highest level and talking about we rney— highest level and talking about what are they going to do, roiiov— what are they going to do, roiiov rne— what are they going to do, follow the release of our report unri— follow the release of our report and rneee— follow the release of our report and these awful— follow the release of our report and these awful numbers and this it and these awful numbers and this ir ve— and these awful numbers and this it was mentioned— and these awful numbers and this it was mentioned the idea of body— it was mentioned the idea of body corne— it was mentioned the idea of body r— it was mentioned the idea of body cams, i think was mentioned as body cams, i think was mentioned oe o poeeipie— body cams, i think was mentioned as a possible solution. i am happy— as a possible solution. i am noppy rnor— as a possible solution. i am happy that they are looking at all all all possible solutions to this problem. i don't want them to discount anything immediately. and it may be that body cams have a role to play. for instance, in a very busy a&e on o rriooy— for instance, in a very busy a&e on o rriooy or— for instance, in a very busy a&e on a friday or saturday night. however— on a friday or saturday night. novvever. r— on a friday or saturday night. novvever r oo— on a friday or saturday night. however , i do want— on a friday or saturday night. however, i do want proper consideration to be given to these issues because there is and body cams can be turned off. they can be used. what what are the actual the purpose of them? is it to protect the nurses? is it to protect patients? because we need to understand better what the problem is, why these numbers are so high and where these incidents are occurring before we can actually come up with the right solution to the
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problem . yeah, no, indeed. problem. yeah, no, indeed. i fier— problem. yeah, no, indeed. i mean, first things— yeah, no, indeed. i mean, first things first. i was opeoiureiy— mean, first things first. i was absolutely shocked to see the repone— absolutely shocked to see the repone or— absolutely shocked to see the reports of sexual— absolutely shocked to see the reports of sexual assault and rope— reports of sexual assault and rope non — reports of sexual assault and rape from within— reports of sexual assault and rape from within our hospitals. i rape from within our hospitals. r nuer— rape from within our hospitals. r nuer eoy— rape from within our hospitals. i must say that— rape from within our hospitals. i must say that was what really inirioiiy— i must say that was what really initially stood— i must say that was what really initially stood out— i must say that was what really initially stood out to me about one.— initially stood out to me about one i— initially stood out to me about one i noe— initially stood out to me about this. i was like,— initially stood out to me about this. i was like, good grief. i r— this. i was like, good grief. i mean, i was shocked by it. and so mean, i was shocked by it. and eo rnere— mean, i was shocked by it. and eo onere ie— mean, i was shocked by it. and so there is that.— mean, i was shocked by it. and so there is that. so— mean, i was shocked by it. and so there is that. so clearly eonerning— so there is that. so clearly something needs to be done about nor.— something needs to be done about rnor. ano— something needs to be done about rnor. and in— something needs to be done about that. and i'm just— something needs to be done about that. and i'm just not sure, noiniy— that. and i'm just not sure, mainly because— that. and i'm just not sure, mainly because of the actual nunon— mainly because of the actual nunon rignre— mainly because of the actual human rights of— mainly because of the actual human rights of the patient. mainly because of the actual human rights of the patient . as human rights of the patient. as you-ve— human rights of the patient. as youve eon.— human rights of the patient. as you've said, you're— human rights of the patient. as you've said, you're in a vuineroiie— you've said, you're in a vulnerable situation , whether or vulnerable situation, whether or not vulnerable situation, whether or nor-ernroeoe— vulnerable situation, whether or not-cameras really- vulnerable situation, whether or not cameras really is the not body cameras really is the oeruoi— not body cameras really is the actual answer— not body cameras really is the actual answer to— not body cameras really is the actual answer to it. and i think it actual answer to it. and i think ir nignr— actual answer to it. and i think ir nignr even— actual answer to it. and i think it might even put— actual answer to it. and i think it might even put some people off potentially— it might even put some people off potentially getting some rreornenr.— off potentially getting some treatment. but,— off potentially getting some treatment. but, i mean, if that ien-r— treatment. but, i mean, if that our one— treatment. but, i mean, if that isn't the solution,— treatment. but, i mean, if that isn't the solution, what do isn't the solution, then what do you— isn't the solution, then what do you-ir— isn't the solution, then what do you-ir iee— isn't the solution, then what do you-it is? because- you think it is? because clearly unor— you think it is? because clearly vnor—ie— you think it is? because clearly vnor—ie rne- you think it is? because clearly what—is the sexuali what has to stop is the sexual oeeouire— what has to stop is the sexual oeeouire ono— what has to stop is the sexual assaults and rapes hospitals. assaults and rapes in hospitals. yes assaults and rapes in hospitals. vee vee— assaults and rapes in hospitals. vee vee. vveii— assaults and rapes in hospitals. yes yes. well as— assaults and rapes in hospitals. yes yes. well as as— assaults and rapes in hospitals. yes yes. well as as i said, the fier— yes yes. well as as i said, the fire rning— yes yes. well as as i said, the first thing needs— yes yes. well as as i said, the first thing needs to be needs to be first thing needs to be needs to ie evpioreo— first thing needs to be needs to be eopioreo ie— first thing needs to be needs to be explored is exactly where rneee— be explored is exactly where rneee rninge— be explored is exactly where these things are— be explored is exactly where these things are occurring , who these things are occurring, who these things are occurring, who one oiiegeo— these things are occurring, who the alleged perpetrators are, vno— the alleged perpetrators are, vno one— the alleged perpetrators are, who the victims— the alleged perpetrators are, who the victims are. �*ifviiwt; 3“ . who the victims are. we don't know.— who the victims are. we don't know. vie— who the victims are. we don't know. we know that a thousand of these incidents took place on these incidents took place on the hospital ward . and so we
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the hospital ward. and so we can, you know, presume that we are presuming, therefore, that thatis are presuming, therefore, that that is patience in patience . we that is patience in patience. we don't know where the others are taking place or the scale of them and who the alleged perpetrators are. so we need to find out the anecdotally, we've had a lot of women coming forward that have been telling us stories about, you know, their own stories about situations and what has happened to them. and there are a number of key issues, i think. and i think one is you need to look at what is happening with mental health patients. we understand that they're in hospital for illness and then maybe stay in hospital longer than they should, because the second stage, the next stage can't be found and located for them. so is that part of the problem ? i is that part of the problem? i think the biggest problem, if you want to do make one change right now, would be to absolutely ensure that they are absolutely ensure that they are a single accommodation a single sex accommodation provided hospitals . a single sex accommodation provided hospitals. in a single sex accommodation provided hospitals . in 2010, provided in hospitals. in 2010, the government made a commitment to provide single sex spaces and they there's a document
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outlining that . however, there outlining that. however, there is an annexe b to that document thatis is an annexe b to that document that is allowing self—identified . yes, absolutely . i mean, this . yes, absolutely. i mean, this is . yes, absolutely. i mean, this ie onorner— . yes, absolutely. i mean, this is another this— . yes, absolutely. i mean, this is another this is— “4115 .wt;.«w i mean, this is another this is another big inie— is another this is another big inie ie— is another this is another big one. this is absolutely another big one. this is absolutely another pig one— one. this is absolutely another pig ano— one. this is absolutely another big one. and unfortunately, that is big one. and unfortunately, that ie o— big one. and unfortunately, that ie o propien— big one. and unfortunately, that is a problem that— big one. and unfortunately, that is a problem that i suspect is big one. and unfortunately, that oniy going— big one. and unfortunately, that oniy going ro— big one. and unfortunately, that only going to get— big one. and unfortunately, that only going to get worse. and not perrer— only going to get worse. and not perrer ony— only going to get worse. and not better any time— only going to get worse. and not better any time soon. and so you-ve— better any time soon. and so youve gor— better any time soon. and so youve gor puer— better any time soon. and so you've got just the fact that you-ve — you've got just the fact that you've alluded— you've got just the fact that you've alluded to there, which is you've alluded to there, which ie nenroi— you've alluded to there, which is mental health— you've alluded to there, which is mental health patients. vouve— is mental health patients. vouve gor— is mental health patients. you've got all— is mental health patients. you've got all of the existing preeenr— you've got all of the existing present dangers.— you've got all of the existing present dangers. and then we nignr— present dangers. and then we nignr ie— present dangers. and then we nignr ire-ro— present dangers. and then we might be _to just- present dangers. and then we might be to just where we might be about to just where we are might be about to just where we in— might be about to just where we are in introducing— might be about to just where we are in introducing additional onee—vnion- are in introducing additional ones—which i- are in introducing additional ones which i think ones into there, which i think is ones into there, which i think ie-ro— ones into there, which i think ie-ro nove— ones into there, which i think ie-ro nove o— ones into there, which i think is to have a catastrophic is going to have a catastrophic inpoor.—veryl is going to have a catastrophic. inpoer.—very nuen. impact. but thank you very much, reone.— impact. but thank you very much, neorner.-r— impact. but thank you very much, heather.-i could— impact. but thank you very much, heather. i could talk to heather. i wish i could talk to you— heather. i wish i could talk to you-pur— heather. i wish i could talk to you-our ve- heather. i wish i could talk to you-our ve oe- heather. i wish i could talk to you but we are out of you all day, but we are out of rime— you all day, but we are out of rine for— you all day, but we are out of rine for no— you all day, but we are out of time for now. but— you all day, but we are out of time for now. but i to hope chat to time for now. but i to hope chat ro you— time for now. but i to hope chat ro you ogoin— time for now. but i to hope chat ro you ogoin very— time for now. but i to hope chat to you again very soon. that's neorner— to you again very soon. that's heather benning,— to you again very soon. that's. heather benning,—the heather benning, who's from the women-— heather benning, who's from the women's-network,- heather benning, who's from the women's network, just women's rights network, just reooring—rnel reacting to. yes. firstly, the oour— reacting to. yes. firstly, the amount-sexual- reacting to. yes. firstly, the amount sexual assaults taking amount of sexual assaults taking pioee—pur— amount of sexual assaults taking pioee—pur-roerl place in hospitals, but the fact rnor— place in hospitals, but the fact no one— place in hospitals, but the fact that the solution _ place in hospitals, but the fact that the solution to that might be that the solution to that might ie-iooy— that the solution to that might ie-iooy-onl be to put a body camera on a nurse and whether or not really as nurse and whether or not really oe o potent— nurse and whether or not really as a patient, that's— nurse and whether or not really as a patient, that's all right virn— as a patient, that's all right win you. — as a patient, that's all right virn you. do— as a patient, that's all right with you. do you- as a patient, that's all right with you. do you consent to more— with you. do you consent to rnore-ioooe- with you. do you consent to that?-loads more. with you. do you consent to- that?-loads more coming that? i've got loads more coming perveen— that? i've got loads more coming perveen-ono— that? i've got loads more coming between-and 6:00.- that? i've got loads more coming between and 6:00. the first between now and 6:00. the first
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pione— between now and 6:00. the first pione roking— between now and 6:00. the first plane taking british citizens pock— plane taking british citizensi back—landed plane taking british citizens. back—landed in back from sudan has landed in the back from sudan has landed in. one—proooen the uk. but i'm going to broaden this the uk. but i'm going to broaden one-oen— the uk. but i'm going to broaden rnie-oek. nove— the uk. but i'm going to broaden this-ask, have we- the uk. but i'm going to broaden this ask, have we got this out and ask, have we got a monk— this out and ask, have we got a moral responsibility to take in reer— moral responsibility to take in eer-non — moral responsibility to take in rest-from the- moral responsibility to take in rest from the african rest refugees from the african oounrrye— rest refugees from the african oounrrye-going— rest refugees from the african country? going to now country? i'm going to now nionoeio— country? i'm going to now michaela dumas and say, no, i rnink— michaela dumas and say, no, i rninhoireooy— michaela dumas and say, no, i think-already do- michaela dumas and say, no, i think already do enough. but think we already do enough. but nove— think we already do enough. but have-different- think we already do enough. but have different view? have you got a different view? inen— have you got a different view? inenine— have you got a different view? then .me know. _ have you got a different view? then me know. we'll have then let me know. we'll have a oeiore— then let me know. we'll have a oeiorelrnor.— then let me know. we'll have a debate-that. and— then let me know. we'll have a debate that. and after debate on that. and after a pag— debate on that. and after a too oroen— debate on that. and after a fatal crash involving mobility fatal crash involving a mobility eooer— fatal crash involving a mobility scooter-will— fatal crash involving a mobility scooter will should scooter, i will ask, should peopie— scooter, i will ask, should peopie nove— scooter, i will ask, should people have-a . scooter, i will ask, should people have a test scooter, i will ask, should. people have-a test to scooter, i will ask, should- people have-a test to be people have to pass a test to be oiioveo— people have to pass a test to be oiioveo ro— people have to pass a test to be allowed to drive— people have to pass a test to be allowed to drive a— people have to pass a test to be allowed to drive a mobility eooer— allowed to drive a mobility eooer e— allowed to drive a mobility scooter ? what— allowed to drive a mobility scooter ? what do you make of all scooter? what do you make of all of scooter? what do you make of all or more— scooter? what do you make of all of that? ladies— scooter? what do you make of all of that? ladies gentlemen? of that? ladies and gentlemen? oh, of that? ladies and gentlemen? on-oieo— of that? ladies and gentlemen? on-oieo .— of that? ladies and gentlemen? on-oieo . r— of that? ladies and gentlemen? oh,-also , i will- of that? ladies and gentlemen? oh,-also , i will be. oh, and yes, also, i will be reiiing— oh, and yes, also, i will be reiiing-viii- oh, and yes, also, i will be telling-will be- oh, and yes, also, i will be telling will be telling telling you or will be telling you— telling you or will be telling you-councils,- telling you or will be telling- you-councils, miserable you why some councils, miserable oouneiie— you why some councils, miserable oouneiie-ro— you why some councils, miserable oouneiie-ro-your- councils, want to ruin your coronorion— councils, want to ruin your coronation spoiler alert. it invoivee— coronation spoiler alert. it involves planning permission and a involves planning permission and o pionie— involves planning permission and o pionie eo— involves planning permission and a picnic. so who'd— involves planning permission and a picnic. so who'd have thunk it onyvoye— a picnic. so who'd have thunk it anyway? middlehurst. now anyway? polly middlehurst. now virn— anyway? polly middlehurst. now vim—.— anyway? polly middlehurst. now with _. patrick- with the headlines. patrick rnonk— with the headlines. patrick rnonk you. — with the headlines. patrick thank you. .3 “ “g with the headlines. patrick thank you. .3 “g with the headlines. patrick thank you. .3 “ “g thank you. good evening to you. our top story on gb news this houn our top story on gb news this hour, the home secretary is saying there are no plans to create safe routes out of sudan for any refugees. the first flight carrying british nationals out of sudan, though, has landed in the uk. more than
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300 people evacuated from the country so far. it's estimated 4000 people are stuck there . 4000 people are stuck there. hundreds of people have been killed since fighting between military factions broke out more than a fortnight ago. the prime minister has warned of a critical 24 hours ahead as the military races to rescue people before the 72 hour ceasefire ends. before the 72 hour ceasefire ends . the mp andrew bridgen, has ends. the mp andrew bridgen, has told gb news he's very disappointed the conservative party has leaked details of his expulsion when he was expelled from the party on the 12th of april on a recommendation from a disciplinary panel. that's after he retweeted the comments of a doctor who'd questioned the efficacy of covid 19 vaccines and compared them to the holocaust. clinical trials have shown covid vaccines are effective and safe. mr bridgham was given 28 days to appeal, and he said he'll stand again at the next election . a man's been next election. a man's been jailed for assisting nine year
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old olivia pratt—korbel murderer. 41 year old paul russell pleaded guilty to driving thomas cashman after he'd fatally shot the nine year old in liverpool last summer. he told police in the days after olivia's death , cashman had been olivia's death, cashman had been responsible for her murder, claiming he hadn't been aware of the shooting when he helped him. he's been sentenced to 22 months in prison. those are your latest news headlines . in prison. those are your latest news headlines. i'm back in prison. those are your latest news headlines . i'm back with news headlines. i'm back with the main news at 6:00. see you then. the main news at 6:00. see you then . direct bullion sponsors then. direct bullion sponsors then. direct bullion sponsors the finance report on gb news for gold and silver investment . for gold and silver investment. first, a quick snapshot of the markets for you. the pound buying you . 1.247 buying you. 1.247 ,7,000,000,001.1293. the price of gold is £1,598.98 an ounce.
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so the ftse 100 closing today . so the ftse 100 closing today. at 7854 points. direct bullion sponsors the finance report on gb news investments that matter . for right. okay. let's get on me— . for right. okay. let's get more on the top- . 3“. okay. let's get more on the top story of our news bulletin— more on the top story of our news bulletin ,— more on the top story of our news bulletin , which is the home news bulletin, which is the home eeererory— news bulletin, which is the home seererory eoye— news bulletin, which is the home secretary says that— news bulletin, which is the home secretary says that there's no pione— secretary says that there's no pione ro — secretary says that there's no plans to create— secretary says that there's no plans to create safe and legal ouer— plans to create safe and legal ouer for— plans to create safe and legal routes for refugees trying to eepe— routes for refugees trying to eepe rne — routes for refugees trying to escape the conflict in sudan. so reeerrienenr— escape the conflict in sudan. so resettlement schemes have previoueiy— resettlement schemes have previously been— resettlement schemes have previously been set up for refugee— previously been set up for refugees fleeing ukraine and krgnonieron— refugees fleeing ukraine and afghanistan and a lot of people vouio— afghanistan and a lot of people vouio eoy— afghanistan and a lot of people would say that— afghanistan and a lot of people would say that we— afghanistan and a lot of people would say that we had more of a guy— would say that we had more of a guy ro— would say that we had more of a oury ro rnoee— would say that we had more of a duty to those people. we invaded argnonieron— duty to those people. we invaded afghanistan for— duty to those people. we invaded afghanistan for a— duty to those people. we invaded afghanistan for a start, and ukroine.— afghanistan for a start, and ukroine. ve— afghanistan for a start, and ukraine, we helped convince them to ukraine, we helped convince them ro ger— ukraine, we helped convince them ro ger rio— ukraine, we helped convince them ro ger no or— ukraine, we helped convince them to get rid of their— ukraine, we helped convince them to get rid of their nuclear epo— to get rid of their nuclear weapons . putin rolls the tanks weapons. putin rolls the tanks in. -knov— weapons. putin rolls the tanks in. -knov one- weapons. putin rolls the tanks in. _know the story- weapons. putin rolls the tanks in. know the story there. in. we all know the story there. our— in. we all know the story there. our enouio— in. we all know the story there. but should-always- in. we all know the story there. but should always open but should britain always open its but should britain always open ire ooore— but should britain always open ire ooore ro— but should britain always open its doors to people to its doors to people trying to eepe— its doors to people trying to eepe rneir— its doors to people trying to escape their home countries in the escape their home countries in one nioer— escape their home countries in one nioer or— escape their home countries in the midst of a— escape their home countries in the midst of a conflict or put einpiy— the midst of a conflict or put einpiy. ooee— the midst of a conflict or put simply, does britain risk peooning— simply, does britain risk peeoning o— simply, does britain risk becoming a sponge or a dumping
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ground— becoming a sponge or a dumping ground for— becoming a sponge or a dumping ground for one— becoming a sponge or a dumping ground for the world's problems? do ground for the world's problems? no ve— ground for the world's problems? no we nove— ground for the world's problems? no we nove o— ground for the world's problems? do we have a moral— ground for the world's problems? do we have a moral obligation for one— do we have a moral obligation for the general— do we have a moral obligation for the general population of suoon— for the general population of suoon nor— for the general population of sudan, not just— for the general population of sudan, not just british citizens . one— sudan, not just british citizens .rne generoi— sudan, not just british citizens , the general population? let's get , the general population? let's ger one— , the general population? let's ger rne viee— , the general population? let's get the views now— , the general population? let's get the views now of refugee and oeyiun— get the views now of refugee and oeyiun rignre— get the views now of refugee and asylum rights director at anneery— asylum rights director at amnesty international uk, steve valdez—symonds_ amnesty international uk, steve valdez—symonds and director at the valdez—symonds and director at one cenrre— valdez—symonds and director at the centre for— valdez—symonds and director at the centre for migration and economie— the centre for migration and economic prosperity . stephen economic prosperity. stephen iron.— economic prosperity. stephen vvoir. srepnen— economic prosperity. stephen wolf. stephen will start with you.— wolf. stephen will start with you. no— wolf. stephen will start with you. no ve— wolf. stephen will start with you. do we have— wolf. stephen will start with you. do we have a moral opiigorion— you. do we have a moral obligation to— you. do we have a moral obligation to the people of suoone— obligation to the people of euoone aki— obligation to the people of sudan? all of— obligation to the people of sudan? all of them, not just nririen— sudan? all of them, not just british citizens— sudan? all of them, not just british citizens who want to come here and— british citizens who want to come here and seek asylum ? well, come here and seek asylum? well, i'm come here and seek asylum? well, in going— come here and seek asylum? well, in going ro— come here and seek asylum? well, i'm going to sound— come here and seek asylum? well, i'm going to sound strange for me ro— i'm going to sound strange for me o eoy— i'm going to sound strange for me o eoy rnie— i'm going to sound strange for me to say this, but to an event— me to say this, but to an ekrenr. yee— me to say this, but to an extent, yes, patrick, because we nove— extent, yes, patrick, because we nove o— extent, yes, patrick, because we nove o noroi— extent, yes, patrick, because we have a moral responsibility, peeouee— have a moral responsibility, because we've— have a moral responsibility, because we've signed the un onvenionr— because we've signed the un onvenionr on— because we've signed the un convention on refugees to help rnoee— convention on refugees to help rnoee vno— convention on refugees to help rnoee vno oe— convention on refugees to help those who are fleeing persecution - those who are fleeing persecution and torture. ' “w: those who are fleeing- persecution and torture. and in rneee— persecution and torture. and in these — persecution and torture. and in these cases, we've— persecution and torture. and in these cases, we've got war. and to an extent here you have a perfect example of the people of sudan being almost identical to the people of ukraine. the question is how do we enable it with ukraine, it was much more easily attainable oil. and with sudan , it's
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easily attainable oil. and with suoon . ir-e o— easily attainable oil. and with sudan , it's a question- . and with sudan , it's a question also sudan, it's a question also vnerner— sudan, it's a question also vnerner ve— sudan, it's a question also whether we can- sudan, it's a question also whether we can work with the unireo — whether we can work with the united nations— whether we can work with the united nations and other oueri— united nations and other countries to— united nations and other countries to try and help what noppene.— countries to try and help what noppene. vveve— countries to try and help what happens. we've done it in the poer— happens. we've done it in the poer in— happens. we've done it in the poer in one— happens. we've done it in the past in other countries, but viii— past in other countries, but viii ve— past in other countries, but viii ve pe— past in other countries, but will we be .to - past in other countries, but will we be to take the will we be able to take the nurnerei— will we be able to take the numbers and— will we be able to take the numbers and can we do so with every— numbers and can we do so with every eounrrye— numbers and can we do so with every country?.think- numbers and can we do so with every country? “
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sign up for and essentially the rest of the world has done so too. and so while we expect other countries to provide safety to sudanese and to ukrainian, afghan and many other refugees , so should we. and the refugees, so should we. and the more we cooperate with others to provide that safety , the less provide that safety, the less people will be forced onto dangerous journeys and the less people or fewer people there will be from whom smugglers and even worse , human traffickers even worse, human traffickers profit . but if we turn our backs profit. but if we turn our backs on our international obligations, we can only expect that other countries will do the same and there will be more people making dangerous journeys such as do make dangerous journeys across the channel okay. stephen wolf , what would okay. stephen wolf, what would you eoy— okay. stephen wolf, what would you eoy ro — okay. stephen wolf, what would you eoy ro peopie— okay. stephen wolf, what would you say to people who would say, we've done enough?— you say to people who would say, we've done enough? we've got nririen— we've done enough? we've got british citizens— we've done enough? we've got british citizens out there , british citizens out there, more— british citizens out there, that's enough— british citizens out there, that's enough now ? �*ifviiwt;.. british citizens out there,- that's enough now ? well, i think that's enough now? well, i think it's right for us to say that we are doing a lot. and we have gone— are doing a lot. and we have gone i— are doing a lot. and we have gone i neon— are doing a lot. and we have done i mean, our— w:wtw “g and we have done i mean, our research shows rnor— done i mean, our research shows no ence— done i mean, our research shows no one— done i mean, our research shows that since the year—
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done i mean, our research shows that since the year 2000, we've oooepreo— that since the year 2000, we've ooeepreo over— that since the year 2000, we've accepted over 1— that since the year 2000, we've accepted over1 million asylum oppiieorione— accepted over1 million asylum oppiieorione .— accepted over1 million asylum applications , weapons into the applications, weapons into the unireo— applications, weapons into the united kingdom _ applications, weapons into the united kingdom and over one, neoriy— united kingdom and over one, neoriy ir— united kingdom and over one, nearly 1.1 million— united kingdom and over one, nearly 1.1 million have had oeoieione— nearly1.1 million have had decisions made— nearly 1.1 million have had decisions made since that time. so decisions made since that time. so one— decisions made since that time. so one eounrry— decisions made since that time. so the country is— decisions made since that time. so the country is doing a great oeoi— so the country is doing a great oeoi .— so the country is doing a great oeoi . r— so the country is doing a great oeoi . r ooo— so the country is doing a great deal. i add that— so the country is doing a great deal . i add that to our programs deal. i add that to our programs virn— deal. i add that to our programs with afghanistan— deal. i add that to our programs with afghanistan ,— deal. i add that to our programs with afghanistan , iran, syria, with afghanistan, iran, syria, ukroine— with afghanistan, iran, syria, ukroine ono— with afghanistan, iran, syria, ukraine and hong kong. and it's eieor— ukraine and hong kong. and it's eieor rnor— ukraine and hong kong. and it's clear that this— ukraine and hong kong. and it's clear that this country is doing a clear that this country is doing o nuge— clear that this country is doing o nuge oour— clear that this country is doing a huge amount .— clear that this country is doing a huge amount . but the clear that this country is doing a huge amount. but the big clear that this country is doing a huge amount . but the big issue a huge amount. but the big issue rnor— a huge amount. but the big issue no we— a huge amount. but the big issue that we should— a huge amount. but the big issue that we should be— a huge amount. but the big issue that we should be addressing all the that we should be addressing all rne rime.— that we should be addressing all one rine. ono— that we should be addressing all the time, and it's— that we should be addressing all the time, and it's the reason why— the time, and it's the reason vny ve— the time, and it's the reason vny ve nove— the time, and it's the reason why we have the— the time, and it's the reason why we have the illegal nigrorion— why we have the illegal migration bill going is migration bill going through is ieeouee— migration bill going through is because we're— migration bill going through is because we're not alone. the un noe— because we're not alone. the un noe ooeepre— because we're not alone. the un noe ooeepre n— because we're not alone. the un has accepts it. the— because we're not alone. the un has accepts it. the european union— has accepts it. the european union accepts— has accepts it. the european union accepts it,— has accepts it. the european union accepts it, that in the mass movement— union accepts it, that in the mass movement of people across the mass movement of people across one grope— mass movement of people across the globe, there— mass movement of people across the globe, there is— mass movement of people across the globe, there is an increasing— the globe, there is an increasing number of those who are increasing number of those who nor— increasing number of those who nor genuine— increasing number of those who are not genuine refugees that we in— are not genuine refugees that we in ukroine— are not genuine refugees that we saw in ukraine and— are not genuine refugees that we saw in ukraine and sudan. but rnere— saw in ukraine and sudan. but onere oe— saw in ukraine and sudan. but there are those— saw in ukraine and sudan. but there are those who are economic nigronre. — there are those who are economic nigronre. inere— there are those who are economic migrants. there is— there are those who are economic migrants. there is that- there are those who are economic migrants. "it.”itl .“wttwt; there are those who are economic migrants. there is that there is that side of it. and steve ella simmons, i'll bring you in here now. if we hadn't have been such a touch with a load of a soft touch with a load of unquestionably economic migrants who coming over here who are coming over here and abusing we abusing our system, maybe we would room for genuine would have more room for genuine people fleeing war in places
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like your response ? like sudan. your response? well, i think, again, we need to nove— well, i think, again, we need to have some perspective this eounrry— have some perspective this eounrry ooee— have some perspective this country does not see a disproportionate number of peopie— disproportionate number of people seeking asylum compared to people seeking asylum compared ro ire— people seeking asylum compared to its european— people seeking asylum compared to its european neighbours or eonporeo— to its european neighbours or eonporeo ro— to its european neighbours or compared to many countries eieevnere. — compared to many countries elsewhere. and— compared to many countries elsewhere. and if we are to be rrue— elsewhere. and if we are to be rrue ro— elsewhere. and if we are to be rrue ro our— elsewhere. and if we are to be true to our shared— true to our shared responsibility to provide refugee— responsibility to provide refugee protection , then then we refugee protection, then then we too refugee protection, then then we roo neeo— refugee protection, then then we roo neeo ro — refugee protection, then then we too need to acknowledge that we nove — too need to acknowledge that we nove ro — too need to acknowledge that we nove ro nove— too need to acknowledge that we have to have an— too need to acknowledge that we have to have an asylum system oeoiing— have to have an asylum system oeoiing virn— have to have an asylum system dealing with the— have to have an asylum system dealing with the people who ono — dealing with the people who arrive and make— dealing with the people who arrive and make their claims rnor— arrive and make their claims no viii— arrive and make their claims that will mean— arrive and make their claims that will mean handling the eioine— that will mean handling the oioine or— that will mean handling the claims of some— that will mean handling the claims of some people whose oioine— claims of some people whose oioine viii— claims of some people whose claims will not— claims of some people whose claims will not be well—founded ono— claims will not be well—founded and therefore— claims will not be well—founded and therefore having the responsibilities of seeking to reurrn— responsibilities of seeking to reurrn onen— responsibilities of seeking to return them to— responsibilities of seeking to return them to their home ourriee — return them to their home countries. just— return them to their home countries. just as we expect the rrenen — countries. just as we expect the rrenen ono — countries. just as we expect the french and the— countries. just as we expect the french and the germans and other oueri— french and the germans and other oueri ro— french and the germans and other countries to do— french and the germans and other countries to do the— french and the germans and other countries to do the same thing. if countries to do the same thing. n we— countries to do the same thing. n we einpiy— countries to do the same thing. n we einpiy puer— countries to do the same thing. if we simply just rip up our opiigorione— if we simply just rip up our obligations and— if we simply just rip up our obligations and say, no, we will not obligations and say, no, we will nor nove— obligations and say, no, we will nor nove ony— obligations and say, no, we will not have any of— obligations and say, no, we will not have any of them. by the way,— not have any of them. by the voy. ve— not have any of them. by the way, we haven't— not have any of them. by the way, we haven't seen an inoreoeing— way, we haven't seen an increasing-or. way, we haven't seen an- increasing-or proportion increasing number or proportion of increasing number or proportion or peopie— increasing number or proportion or peopie virn— increasing number or proportion of people with bad claims . if of people with bad claims. if onyrning.— of people with bad claims. if onyrning. ve— of people with bad claims. if anything, we have seen exactly the anything, we have seen exactly rne-. — anything, we have seen exactly rne-. eon.- anything, we have seen exactly the-. yeah, but- anything, we have seen exactlyi the-. yeah, but steve, the opposite. yeah, but steve, you both know that the
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you and i both know that the main behind is main reason behind that is because we're processing because we're not processing them quickly enough. so it's very us to tell archie, very hard for us to tell archie, look, steve simmons, i'll throw it to before give you the it to you before i give you the final to mr wolf. final word to mr wolf. it's difficult two steve's, difficult with two steve's, actually, but there we go. look at what some of the only building planning building and the only planning applications that seem to be accepted at moment appear to applications that seem to be ac(those at moment appear to applications that seem to be ac(those that moment appear to applications that seem to be ac(those that involve ant appear to applications that seem to be ac(those that involve asylumear to be those that involve asylum detention centres and all of this stuff. i mean, what at what point, steve, do we maybe look at the current international obugafions at the current international obligations that we've got at the moment and say were not the moment and say they were not designed current designed for the current international outlook and therefore to change them therefore we have to change them because at what cost? steve if we keep throwing our arms around the at what cost ? just the world, at what cost? just two things in response- two things in response to that . two things in response to that. ine— two things in response to that. ine peopie— two things in response to that. ine peopie vno— two things in response to that. the people who are or the oueri— the people who are or the countries who _ the people who are or the countries who are and have been for oeeooee— countries who are and have been for decades taking— countries who are and have been for decades taking the huge enore— for decades taking the huge enore or— for decades taking the huge share of responsibility for refugee— share of responsibility for refugees under this convention are nowhere near— refugees under this convention are nowhere near our vicinity, let are nowhere near our vicinity, ier oione— are nowhere near our vicinity, ier oione ue— are nowhere near our vicinity, let alone us. and— are nowhere near our vicinity, let alone us. and if we want to revrire— let alone us. and if we want to rewrite those _ let alone us. and if we want to rewrite those laws— let alone us. and if we want to rewrite those laws and rebalance this ,— rewrite those laws and rebalance rnie . rnor— rewrite those laws and rebalance this , that means— rewrite those laws and rebalance
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this , that means us taking more this, that means us taking more reeponeipiiiry— this, that means us taking more reeponeipiiiry .— this, that means us taking more responsibility . motty if we're responsibility. motty if we're concerned about— responsibility. motty if we're concerned about the cost of our oeyiun— concerned about the cost of our oeyiun eyeren— concerned about the cost of our oeyiun eyeren .— concerned about the cost of our asylum system , we only need to asylum system, we only need to kook— asylum system, we only need to iook or— asylum system, we only need to iook or one— asylum system, we only need to look at the government and ask why— look at the government and ask vny ir— look at the government and ask vny ir noe— look at the government and ask vny ir noe over— look at the government and ask why it has over the— look at the government and ask why it has over the last four yeore— why it has over the last four yeore euere— why it has over the last four years refuse to— why it has over the last four years refuse to process so many eioine— years refuse to process so many oioine .— years refuse to process so many oioine . ano— years refuse to process so many claims . and that— years refuse to process so many claims . and that is— years refuse to process so many claims . and that is why we have claims. and that is why we have a claims. and that is why we have o nuge— claims. and that is why we have o nuge pookiog— claims. and that is why we have a huge backlog. that is why our eyeren— a huge backlog. that is why our eyeren noe— a huge backlog. that is why our system has fallen— a huge backlog. that is why our system has fallen apart. okay sreven. — system has fallen apart. okay steven. wolf,— system has fallen apart. okay steven. wolf, final- system has fallen apart. okay steven. �*7 3 steven. wolf, final word to you. look do you expect unfortunately, we're going to see a lot of people claiming to at least be from sudan? is this going to be the next wave that we're going to end up with? people the people coming across the channel? you think? well, channel? do you think? well, i think there are going- channel? do you think? well, i think there are going to- “7 jwtw “57 well, i think there are going to be some i think there are going to be some i reoiiy— think there are going to be some i really honestly— think there are going to be some i really honestly can't see the nurrnerei— i really honestly can't see the. numbers—already numbers because we've already expeoreo— numbers because we've already evpeereo—yeor. - numbers because we've alreadyi expected _year. there expected 65,000 this year. there is expected 65,000 this year. there ie—ro— expected 65,000 this year. there ie—ro one- expected 65,000 this year. there is_to the budget.| is a massive cost to the budget. nie— is a massive cost to the budget. we oouo— is a massive cost to the budget. we oouo 4— is a massive cost to the budget. it's around 4 billion will be unor— it's around 4 billion will be vnoriepeno— it's around 4 billion will be what-spend on- it's around 4 billion will be what spend on migration and what we spend on migration and oeyiun— what we spend on migration and oeyiun onie— what we spend on migration and oeyiun rnie yeor— what we spend on migration and asylum this year through the none— asylum this year through the home office— asylum this year through the home office budget and others. so home office budget and others. so we— home office budget and others. so we reoiiy— home office budget and others. so we really do— home office budget and others. so we really do need to look at one— so we really do need to look at one voy— so we really do need to look at one voy rnor— so we really do need to look at the way that we _ so we really do need to look at the way that we deal with it. i may— the way that we deal with it. i noy oieogree— the way that we deal with it. i may disagree with stephen in rerne— may disagree with stephen in terms_numbers.| terms of the rising numbers. inere— terms of the rising numbers. inere-eone— terms of the rising numbers. there some countries like there are some countries like rog— there are some countries like rog-ronione— there are some countries like iraq iranians where we just iraq and iranians where we just gronr— iraq and iranians where we just gronr rnen— iraq and iranians where we just grant them discretionary proreorion— grant them discretionary
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protection rather than under the un protection rather than under the nu kerugee— protection rather than under the un refugee convention or the euro— un refugee convention or the euro .— un refugee convention or the tone . einpiy— un refugee convention or the echr , simply because the echr, simply because the governnenr— echr, simply because the government knows that it can't reurrn— government knows that it can't reurrn onen— government knows that it can't return them and— government knows that it can't return them and we give them muon— return them and we give them much more bail— return them and we give them much more bail as well as allocations— much more bail as well as allocations for— much more bail as well as allocations for those to ponieuior— allocations for those to particular countries. and it's irredeemably_ particular countries. and it's irredeemably accepted internationally that there is a ne— internationally that there is a in— internationally that there is a rise in what's— internationally that there is a rise in what's called economic nigronre— rise in what's called economic nigronre .— rise in what's called economic nigronre . ano— rise in what's called economic migrants . and so— rise in what's called economic migrants . and so my argument is migrants. and so my argument is rnor— migrants. and so my argument is no ve— migrants. and so my argument is no we oo— migrants. and so my argument is that we do need— migrants. and so my argument is that we do need to— migrants. and so my argument is that we do need to have a new inrernoi— that we do need to have a new internal national— that we do need to have a new internal national review, a conference, discuss assessing nov— conference, discuss assessing novve— conference, discuss assessing how we move forward in the 22nd fier— how we move forward in the 22nd rirer oenrury— how we move forward in the 22nd rirer oenrury in— how we move forward in the 22nd first century in order to look at first century in order to look or one— first century in order to look at the problems— first century in order to look at the problems globally. and rnor— at the problems globally. and no neeoe— at the problems globally. and that needs to— at the problems globally. and that needs to be— at the problems globally. and that needs to be refreshed by all countries— that needs to be refreshed by all countries involved . all countries involved. okay. ooeo— all countries involved. okay. oooo orun— all countries involved. okay. good stuff, buddy. thank you very much. refugee and asylum rights director amnesty international uk. steve valdez simmons, director at the simmons, a then director at the centre for migration and economic prosperity . stephen economic prosperity. stephen wolf with long wolf two people with very long business cards. they're both ironically same ironically with the same name. anyway, i'm to anyway, right now i'm going to delve quietly, gb delve into the inbox quietly, gb views at gb news .uk. lots of support for andrew brigitte. it must be said he was on earlier.
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can i just urge you go and have a look at our twitter. go and have a look at our youtube. there was a very long and wide ranging interview, i think, with andrew on. andrew bridgen earlier on. he has been expelled from the has now been expelled from the conservative party. he is absolutely he absolutely adamant that he didn't anything absolutely adamant that he didnthat anything absolutely adamant that he didnthat there's anything absolutely adamant that he didnthat there's some ng absolutely adamant that he didnthat there's some kind of and that there's some kind of witch hunt, exposes corruption and ifs witch hunt, exposes corruption and it's scandal, really, witch hunt, exposes corruption and he'sit's scandal, really, witch hunt, exposes corruption and he's been scandal, really, witch hunt, exposes corruption and he's been booted., really, witch hunt, exposes corruption and he's been booted., rerfor. that he's been booted out for. what he would say is, is freedom of speech in relation to the coronavirus he said a coronavirus vaccines. he said a lot. to stand lot. he said he's going to stand again let me know what again anyway. let me know what you that interview. but you make of that interview. but a lot of people getting involved here saying that a he's here saying that he's a he's speaking for the rights speaking up for the rights of people suddenly don't have people who suddenly don't have them including them any more, including janet, who's on to say, look, who's just been on to say, look, she claims to know people she claims anyway to know people who away a result who have passed away as a result of coronavirus vaccine and of the coronavirus vaccine and andrew is one of the few andrew bridgen is one of the few people who is willing people she says who is willing to head above the to stick his head above the parapet, all power to him. so that's janet's there. that's janet's view there. there's lot of similar there's quite a lot of similar emails, it must be said, coming in gbviews@gbnews.uk now, now moving on, something completely different. to different. should people have to pass test to able pass a driving test to be able to use mobility scooter? i'm
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to use a mobility scooter? i'm patrick christys on gb news britain's news
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here on gb news, the people's. channel well, look, i cnonnei— well, look, i thought why not rinien— well, look, i thought why not rinien virn— well, look, i thought why not finish with something a little finiin with something a little bit finish with something a little bit different— finish with something a little bit different this caught my eye in ne— bit different this caught my eye in one neve— bit different this caught my eye in the news agenda this morning . ironiiiry— in the news agenda this morning . mobility scooter— in the news agenda this morning . mobility scooter users- in the news agenda this morning . mobility scooter users are to be to take a test to be encouraged to take a test to ensure that are safe ensure that they are safe drivers. it comes after a coroner the dangers posed coroner warned the dangers posed by unlicensed operators. a 92 year old woman was sadly killed last year she was hit by a last year after she was hit by a scooter . transport secretary scooter. transport secretary mark harper that mark harper says that he supports nation wide supports a nation wide assessment and training scheme, which is expected launch next which is expected to launch next yeah which is expected to launch next year. but i can speak now to neil greg, who is the director of policy and research at iam roadsmart. now look, neil, do we really need to be giving disabled people and let's be honest, you know, gold and oldies a driving test to get on a mobility scooter . can't we all a mobility scooter. can't we all look out for them instead ? well
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look out for them instead? well you would hope so, but unfortunately , we're actually unfortunately, we're actually seeing a big increase in deaths and serious injuries and eight deaths in 2021, 36 serious injuries, 300 injuries overall involving mobility scooters. most of those were to the noiiiiry— most of those were to the mobility scooter users themselves. - mobility scooter users themselves. but the trouble is, rneee— themselves. but the trouble is, rneee ooye— themselves. but the trouble is, rneee ooye. you— themselves. but the trouble is, these days, you can get a noiiiiry— these days, you can get a mobility scooter online delivered _ mobility scooter online delivered tomorrow with no instruction _ delivered tomorrow with no instruction on _ delivered tomorrow with no instruction on how to use it, no rroining— instruction on how to use it, no rroining in— instruction on how to use it, no rroining in now— instruction on how to use it, no training in how to— instruction on how to use it, no training in how to use it. and one— training in how to use it. and one nurnerep— training in how to use it. and the numbers have just taken off. inere-e— the numbers have just taken off. there's hundreds— the numbers have just taken off. there's hundreds of thousands of rneee— there's hundreds of thousands of rneee rninge— there's hundreds of thousands of these things now.— there's hundreds of thousands of these things now. and i think iooking— these things now. and i think we're looking at— these things now. and i think we're looking at time we're looking at a time now vnere— we're looking at a time now vnere ve— we're looking at a time now vnere ve-ro- we're looking at a time now where we-to be- we're looking at a time now- where we _to be looking where we do need to be looking at where we do need to be looking or o— where we do need to be looking or o pir— where we do need to be looking or o pir more— where we do need to be looking at a bit more regulation to make rney-re — at a bit more regulation to make sure they're being— at a bit more regulation to make sure they're being used safely ono— sure they're being used safely one-everybody- sure they're being used safely. and-everybody-the and keeping everybody safe. the users-pedestrians- and keeping everybody safe. the users pedestrians and users and the pedestrians and the users and the pedestrians and one-orouno— users and the pedestrians and the-around-as. the cyclists around them as weir.— the cyclists around them as ven—conne- the cyclists around them as well._come on,i the cyclists around them as- well._come on, come well. oh, look, come on, come on. how bad is it? i well. t t how bad is it? i mean, on. how bad is it? i mean, oyeiiere— on. how bad is it? i mean, cyclists, they're— how bad is it? i mean, cyclists, they're not even going to cyclists, they're not even going ro ie— cyclists, they're not even going ro ie noving— cyclists, they're not even going to be having plates on to be having number plates on men— to be having number plates on rneirlrneir— to be having number plates on their-their backs.- to be having number plates on their their backs. they their on their backs. they reeier— their on their backs. they reeier ori— their on their backs. they resist all of— their on their backs. they resist all of that. don't resist all of that. you don't nove— resist all of that. you don't nove ro— resist all of that. you don't nove ro-r— resist all of that. you don't have to-i don't- resist all of that. you don't have to i don't think have to go. i don't think you nove— have to go. i don't think you novelroke— have to go. i don't think you have .take-kind- have to go. i don't think you have take kind of test to have to take any kind of test to get have to take any kind of test to ger on— have to take any kind of test to ger on-r— have to take any kind of test to ger on-r neon- get on a bike. i mean, i ooruoiiy— get on a bike. i mean, i oeruoiiy r— get on a bike. i mean, i actually i don't mind admitting i actually i don't mind admitting r ooruoiiy— actually i don't mind admitting i actually can't— actually i don't mind admitting i actually can't ride a bike,
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pur— i actually can't ride a bike, but technically— i actually can't ride a bike, but technically i could go ouniee.— but technically i could go outside. now— but technically i could go outside. now get one but technically i could go- outside. now-get.one and outside. now and get on one and belie— outside. now and get on one and belie i.— outside. now and get on one and belie p. p,— outside. now and get on one and belie p. p on— outside. now and get on one and belb, b, b on the— outside. now and get on one and be b, b, b on the roads be a, b, b, b on the roads oouo— be a, b, b, b on the roads around london.- be a, b, b, b on the roads around london. i would be uneoer— around london. i would be unsafe. what— around london. i would be unsafe. what about poor unsafe. what about the poor peeon— unsafe. what about the poor pereon-eonr— unsafe. what about the poor person-can't-to. unsafe. what about the poor person can't to the person who can't walk to the enope— person who can't walk to the enope-rney— person who can't walk to the enope-rney eon- person who can't walk to the shop? they can just shop? surely they can just get on-noiiiiry— shop? surely they can just get on mobility scooter and nip on the mobility scooter and nip ooun— on the mobility scooter and nip oovn ro— on the mobility scooter and nip down to tesco's?_ on the mobility scooter and nip down to tesco's? _ on the mobility scooter and nip down to tesco's? �*ifviiwt;.. ”it; down to tesco's? well, we're not talking a driving test talking about a driving test like give 17 year like you would give to a 17 year old here. we're talking about a quick— old here. we're talking about a quick assessment,— wtww: “wttwt; we're talking about a quick assessment, something that enove— quick assessment, something that enove-knov— quick assessment, something that shows-know how- quick assessment, something that shows-know how to- shows that they know how to operore— shows that they know how to operate-mobility- shows that they know how to operate mobility scooter operate the mobility scooter and oieo—rne- operate the mobility scooter and also—the rules. also that they know the rules ono— also that they know the rules onoe-re— also that they know the rules and-are quite- also that they know the rules and are quite they are and the rules are quite they are quire— and the rules are quite they are quite complicated. "it.”itl and the rules are quite they are quite complicated. “wttwt; titwt; quite complicated. there are eveni— quite complicated. there are several types several different types of mobility there are mobility scooters. there are some mobility scooters. there are rnor— mobility scooters. there are some that are— mobility scooters. there are some that are only- t .«r there are some that are only allowed on the some that are only allowed on one povenenr.— some that are only allowed on the pavement. there are some rnor— the pavement. there are some rnor-oon— the pavement. there are some rnor-eon go— the pavement. there are some rnor-eon go ro— the pavement. there are some that-can go to on- the pavement. there are some that can go to on roads up that you can go to on roads up to that you can go to on roads up ro-iinire— that you can go to on roads up ro-iinire on- that you can go to on roads up to-limits on and- that you can go to on roads up to limits on and there, to 50mph, limits on and there, our— to 50mph, limits on and there, our rney-re— to 50mph, limits on and there, but they're limited to eight niiee— but they're limited to eight niiee per— but they're limited to eight miles per hour.— but they're limited to eight miles per hour. so you've got eonepooy— miles per hour. so you've got somebody mobility scooter somebody on a mobility scooter ooing— somebody on a mobility scooter ooing eignr— somebody on a mobility scooter ooing eignr-per- somebody on a mobility scooter doing eight per hour on doing eight miles per hour on a root— doing eight miles per hour on a rooo vnere— doing eight miles per hour on a road where the— doing eight miles per hour on a road where the rest of the tonic— road where the rest of the traffic might— road where the rest of the traffic might be doing 50mph. ano— traffic might be doing 50mph. and—recipe- traffic might be doing 50mph.| and—recipe for and that is clearly a recipe for oonger— and that is clearly a recipe for oonger .— and that is clearly a recipe for danger. there's— and that is clearly a recipe for danger . there's actually a whole danger. there's actually a whole eeerion— danger. there's actually a whole eeorion in— danger. there's actually a whole section in the— danger. there's actually a whole section in the highway code for nopiiiry— section in the highway code for mobility-users- section in the highway code for mobility-users ,- section in the highway code for mobility users , and mobility scooter users, and rnere-e— mobility scooter users, and rnere-e r— mobility scooter users, and rnere-e r or— mobility scooter users, and there's 1 or 2— mobility scooter users, and there's 1 or 2 people around the oouo— there's 1 or 2 people around the oouo rne— there's 1 or 2 people around the around the country. the more reeponeiiie— around the country. the more responsible retailers, some poiiee— responsible retailers, some poiieeroee— responsible retailers, some police forces have done some rroining— police forces have done some rroining or— police forces have done some training of their— police forces have done some training of their own, but it's
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all training of their own, but it's oii enrireiy— training of their own, but it's all entirely voluntary. i all entirely voluntary. and i rnink— all entirely voluntary. and i rnink oe— all entirely voluntary. and i rnink oe ve— all entirely voluntary. and i think as we carry on seeing rneee— think as we carry on seeing these numbers— think as we carry on seeing these numbers going up, do these numbers going up, we do need— these numbers going up, we do need-iooking— these numbers going up, we do need looking seriously at need to be looking seriously at now— need to be looking seriously at non-going— need to be looking seriously at non-going ro— need to be looking seriously at non-going ro rry- need to be looking seriously at how going to try keep how we're going to try and keep peopie— how we're going to try and keep peopie oe— how we're going to try and keep peopie oe eore— how we're going to try and keep people as safe as— how we're going to try and keep people as safe as possible, ieeouee— people as safe as possible, peeouee ir— people as safe as possible, because it seems that the nurrnerei— because it seems that thei numbers-moving because it seems that the numbers-moving to numbers of people moving on to nopiiiry— numbers of people moving on to mobility-they've- mobility scooters, they've oinoer— mobility scooters, they'vei oinoer—or mobility scooters, they've - almost—of the almost become the sort of the ne— almost become the sort of the rire or— almost become the sort of the rire or poeeoge— almost become the sort of the rite of passage .— almost become the sort of the rite of passage . you know, you rite of passage. you know, you give— rite of passage. you know, you give-driving.— rite of passage. you know, you give-driving,-you- rite of passage. you know, you give driving, you know, give up driving, but you know, you— give up driving, but you know, you-eriii— give up driving, but you know, you-still have— give up driving, but you know, you still have mobility you can still have a mobility eooer— you can still have a mobility eooer ono— you can still have a mobility scooter and-do- you can still have a mobility scooter and do give a lot scooter and they do give a lot of independence,— of independence, a lot of guoiiry— of independence, a lot of qualityllife-- of independence, a lot of quality life. you have of independence, a lot of- quality.life..you have to quality of life. but you have to uee-eoreiy— quality of life. but you have to uee-eoreiy. — quality of life. but you have to use-safely . okay.- quality of life. but you have to use safely . use them safely. okay. all right — use them safely. okay. all right. well, look, neil, thank you very, very much. and it's been interesting to get your insights into hopefully, we insights into it. hopefully, we don't the oldies. don't overregulate the oldies. that's would that's what my concern would be. they as much they need all this as much freedom they can possibly freedom as they can possibly get. as neil greig the get. as neil greig is the director of policy and research at just thought at iam roadsmart just thought i'd with it's i'd finished with that one. it's something bit something a little bit different, but it different, isn't it? but it might affect lot of you, who might affect a lot of you, who knows? think i would knows? i certainly think i would be absolute nightmare in a be an absolute nightmare in a mobility certainly mobility scooter, certainly if my experience in a golf buggy my experience is in a golf buggy or to go i well, or anything to go by. i well, i'm allowed back there. i'm not allowed back there. right. now for right. it's time now for patrick's pick of the day. when i on a story that isn't i focus on a story that isn't the biggest of the day. but
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the biggest one of the day. but i wanted to about it i wanted to talk about it nonetheless, as usual, just stop. have stop. oil protesters have been making of themselves making a nuisance of themselves on of london, but on the streets of london, but this absolutely you this one absolutely got me. you got driver so this is at got a driver here. so this is at working man on his way to work. and you can't hear now, but and you can't hear it now, but what he's saying to them is, get out road, you bunch what he's saying to them is, get ouorange road, you bunch what he's saying to them is, get ouorange numptiesd, you bunch what he's saying to them is, get ouorange numpties get)u bunch what he's saying to them is, get ouorange numpties get rid)unch what he's saying to them is, get ouorange numpties get rid ofich of orange numpties get rid of this sign and the police officers go up to him. the worker say, no, sir, you can't do that. and in the end they give the sign back to just stop oil . so are give the sign back to just stop oil. so are you joking? whose side are these people on? the police officers. so you're telling me that it's all right to stand into a road block someone there? what if someone that knew having a heart that he knew was having a heart attack back of that car attack in the back of that car and wouldn't have been able and he wouldn't have been able to to hospital to police to get to hospital to police officers there? three. now, how many does it take to stop many more does it take to stop a many more does it take to stop a man to work, shepherding man getting to work, shepherding him back sir you can't him back into car? sir you can't possibly protesters possibly touch these protesters who are making an who are making your day an absolute we absolute living hell. no, we couldn't have that, could we? absolute living hell. no, we coulthen. ave that, could we? absolute living hell. no, we coulthen. yeah,iat, could we? absolute living hell. no, we coulthen. yeah, and:ould we? absolute living hell. no, we coulthen. yeah, and then we? absolute living hell. no, we coulthen. yeah, and then all’ absolute living hell. no, we coulthen. yeah, and then all of and then. yeah, and then all of a this guy's treated a sudden, this guy's treated like criminal, and he got a
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like the criminal, and he got a load of people there who just unemployed, load of people there who just uneiblocking people from just blocking people from getting to work. really does getting to work. it really does hammer it? anyway, hammer home, doesn't it? anyway, in couldn't the in case you couldn't tell, the reason play that reason i wanted to play that video is because it made me very angry. so there we are. well, the motty is just stop oil the motty is a bit just stop oil today, isn't it? anyway, jubes is now. michelle is here with me now. michelle dewberry. am all right. i was dewberry. i am all right. i was chuckling. i don't know- i g“. iwas chuckling. i don't know what youe— chuckling. i don't know what you roiking— chuckling. i don't know what you're talking about. . you're talking about. so it nignr— you're talking about. so it nignr nove— you're talking about. so it might have been something very serious talking serious when you're talking about scooters. so if about mobility scooters. so if it was a serious topic, not reoiiy. — it was a serious topic, not reoiiy. innunn-e- it was a serious topic, not. really. .mum's husband really. my mum's husband pretty much is. he got hit and he'd much he is. he got hit and he'd be oringing— much he is. he got hit and he'd be oringinglne-e— t“..wt.“ he got hit and he'd be cringing he's watching be cringing if he's watching nie— be cringing if he's watching rnielgor— be cringing if he's watching rnielgor nir— be cringing if he's watching this..got hit-a- be cringing if he's watching this. got hit a mobility this. he got hit by a mobility eooer— this. he got hit by a mobility eooer ono— this. he got hit by a mobility scooter and it— this. he got hit by a mobility scooter and it caused him some proper— scooter and it caused him some proper-oonoge.- scooter and it caused him some proper-damage. so- scooter and it caused him some proper damage. so it did proper serious damage. so it did . ano— proper serious damage. so it did . and-ou— proper serious damage. so it did .and-all found— proper serious damage. so it did .and-all found it— proper serious damage. so it did . and all found it absolutely . and we all found it absolutely niiorioue— . and we all found it absolutely hilarious—wasn't- . and we all found it absolutely hilaricvery-wasn't- . and we all found it absolutely hilaricvery fast wasn't . and we all found it absolutely hilaricvery fast at wasn't . and we all found it absolutely hilaricvery fast at all.3sn't . and we all found it absolutely hilaricvery fast at all. so�*t going very fast at all. so i eon-r— going very fast at all. so i oon-r know— going very fast at all. so i don't know how- going very fast at all. so i don't know how we managed get don't know how we managed to get hit don't know how we managed to get nir-pur— don't know how we managed to get nir-pur rnere— don't know how we managed to get hit-but there can— don't know how we managed to get hit-but there can be- hit by it, but there can be iernoi. — hit by it, but there can be lethal. those— hit by it, but there can be lethal. . t“ lethal. those well, it can be. yeah, they can be. i just think we shouldn't we shouldn't, we shouldn't golden we shouldn't we shouldn't, we shouldiyou golden we shouldn't we shouldn't, we shouldiyou need golden we shouldn't we shouldn't, we shouldiyou need to golden we shouldn't we shouldn't, we shouldiyou need to go )lden we shouldn't we shouldn't, we shouldiyou need to go outn we shouldn't we shouldn't, we shouldiyou need to go out and oldies. you need to go out and about to get here. andrew bridgen earlier he was he bridgen earlier he was on. he was show. yes i was was on my show. yes i was definitely listening- twtw“ /wtt iwas definitely listening intently. arnie— definitely listening intently. arnie unor— definitely listening intently. arnie what-you- definitely listening intently. arnie what-you make- definitely listening intently. i
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arnie what-you make of that arnie what do you make of that situation? what whole kind situation? what the whole kind of situation? what the whole kind or—ro— situation? what the whole kind or—ro rne— situation? what the whole kind of_to the holocaust| of comparison to the holocaust ono— of comparison to the holocaust one on— of comparison to the holocaust ono oii rne— of comparison to the holocaust and all the rest— of comparison to the holocaust and all the rest-it,- of comparison to the holocaust and all the rest it, you mean and all the rest of it, you mean or and all the rest of it, you mean 0r..— and all the rest of it, you mean or. nin— and all the rest of it, you mean or. nin gerring— and all the rest of it, you mean or , him getting booted out? or him, him getting booted out? more—r— or him, him getting booted out? more—r think.- or him, him getting booted out? more-i think, yeah.- more than that, i think, yeah. him getting him getting booted out. oh, know, that one out. oh, you know, that is one of out. oh, you know, that is one or—ien-r— out. oh, you know, that is one or—ien-r ire - out. oh, you know, that is one of_isn't it? if. out. oh, you know, that is one| of_isn't it? if you of those topics isn't it? if you uore— of those topics isn't it? if you uore eoy— of those topics isn't it? if you dare say anything derogatory about effects of the about side effects of the vaccine, be silenced vaccine, you will be silenced quicker a quick thing from quicker than a quick thing from quicker than a quick thing from quick land, isn't it? yeah. and actually, they don't-to. actually, they don't seem to nove— actually, they don't seem to nove rnoee— actually, they don't seem to have those standards with have those same standards with a lot have those same standards with a iorlrne— have those same standards with a iorlrne-goinge— have those same standards with a lot-the-goings on. - have those same standards with a lot the goings on. no. lot of the other goings on. no. in lot of the other goings on. no. rn—oo— lot of the other goings on. no. rn—oo rneye - lot of the other goings on. no. in_do they? andl lot of the other goings on. no.| in_do they? and i in parliament do they? and i think— in parliament do they? and i rnink onor-e— in parliament do they? and i think that's double standards for some is what people are not happy i have to say happy about. but i have to say rnougn.— happy about. but i have to say rnougn.-oonee- happy about. but i have to say though,-comes to- happy about. but i have to say. though,-comes to people though, when it comes to people no— though, when it comes to people rnor-noo— though, when it comes to people that-had their— though, when it comes to people that-had their lives- that have had their lives inpoereo— that have had their lives impacted-the- that have had their lives impacted the covid vaccines, impacted by the covid vaccines, we impacted by the covid vaccines, ve were-or— impacted by the covid vaccines, we were .of the _ impacted by the covid vaccines, we were of the earlier you we were one of the earlier you know.— we were one of the earlier you know. ve— we were one of the earlier you know. we ueeo— we were one of the earlier you know, we used to— we were one of the earlier you know, we used to talk to those peopie— know, we used to talk to those peopie vnen — know, we used to talk to those people when everyone else used to people when everyone else used ro-o— people when everyone else used ro-o piino— people when everyone else used ro-o piino eye.— people when everyone else used to-a blind eye. i— people when everyone else used to a blind eye. i have seen to turn a blind eye. i have seen a to turn a blind eye. i have seen olrnore— to turn a blind eye. i have seen a.more mainstream - to turn a blind eye. i have seen a more mainstream media a bit more mainstream media orrenrion— a bit more mainstream media attention given— a bit more mainstream media attention given to guys. attention given to those guys. sorry—for- attention given to those guys. sorry—for o- attention given to those guys. sorry—for o iori sorry for him, really, for a lot of sorry for him, really, for a lot or reepeore— sorry for him, really, for a lot or reepeore .— sorry for him, really, for a lot of respects , but— sorry for him, really, for a lot of respects , but i— sorry for him, really, for a lot of respects , but i just think of respects, but i just think me— of respects, but i just think one ionguoge— of respects, but i just think the language clumsy , isn't the language is clumsy, isn't ire — the language is clumsy, isn't ire knu— the language is clumsy, isn't ire and you— the language is clumsy, isn't it? and you know,- the language is clumsy, isn't. it? and you know,-anyway, it? and you know, but anyway, anyway, to ask you anyway, i'm going to ask you what got coming i'm what you got coming up. i'm afraid people going to say afraid people are going to say to to find to you, patrick, tune in to find out tune in to find out.
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out what to tune in to find out. hey, let me quickly ask everyone. hello deegan hey, let me quickly ask- everyone. hello-deegan here everyone. hello alex deegan here virn—upoorel with your latest weather update from — with your latest weather update from rne — with your latest weather update from rne ner— with your latest weather update from the met office. . 91533 from the met office. it is going to from the met office. it is going ro um— from the met office. it is going to turn warmer as we head towards weekend, there towards the weekend, but there will be some wet weather around as bright and as well, some bright spells and some heavy showers through the weekend. some heavy showers through the weeweather fronts to got weather fronts trying to pushin got weather fronts trying to push in from the south—west. they will eventually really bnng they will eventually really bring milder air, but it's bring the milder air, but it's still out there still pretty chilly out there today. of around today. a lot of cloud around most places dry, just the odd scattered shower over northern england, southern scotland this evening still some wintry evening and still some wintry showers in shetland where the cold air persists, but elsewhere, well , it will be elsewhere, well, it will be a little bit milder than recent nights. some clear spells, but generally quite cloudy and some rain moving into northern ireland and the west coast of scotland still a frost scotland by dawn, still a frost likely northern scotland, but likely in northern scotland, but elsewhere dip down into elsewhere we'll dip down into the low single figures, perhaps, but we should have some brightness on thursday morning. but a sunshine across parts of northern england, eastern england as well . but generally england as well. but generally another cloudy day . wet weather another cloudy day. wet weather moving across scotland with snow on of the mountains
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on the tops of the mountains turning drier through the central largely dry in central belts and largely dry in northern ireland. but look at this wet weather coming in from the south—west. some uncertainty about the timing of that rain, but will see some heavier but we will see some heavier bursts coming from bursts coming in from the southwest but temperatures southwest. but temperatures getting teens , but getting into the teens, but still cool for the time still pretty cool for the time of year. obviously feeling cooler this moves in as cooler as this rain moves in as i said, some uncertainty about the extent how far north it reaches. but most places can expect to get wet during thursday evening and overnight into friday. you can see it's actually a swirl. it's actually developing into an area of low pressure that should should be edging away during friday. so perhaps a grey and certainly a damp start in parts of the east, but should be drying up but it should be drying up through and certainly through the day. and certainly many areas looking many western areas looking brighter with some brighter on friday with some sunshine returning and temperatures will be on the rise with a bit of sunshine, 17, 18, perhaps a little bit higher in a few places, warming up as we head towards the weekend .
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r , racist. others saying absolute . absolutely right. what absolute. absolutely right. what says you and policing ? says you and policing? apparently the government has met its targets to recruit 20,000 new officers. is that going to be what we need then to give us the common sense

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