next very good afternoon , everybody. very good afternoon, everybody. patrick christys here with you. three — patrick christys here with you. three em— patrick christys here with you. three till six— patrick christys here with you. three till six and— patrick christys here with you. three till six and it's a big eeeey— three till six and it's a big eeeey ee— three till six and it's a big one today as ever , britain one today as ever, britain officially— one today as ever, britain officially is— one today as ever, britain officially is one- one today as ever, britain officially is one of the least reest— officially is one of the least racist countries— officially is one of the least racist countries in the world. a study— racist countries in the world. a study hee— racist countries in the world. a study has confirmed something that— study has confirmed something met |_ study has confirmed something that i think— study has confirmed something that i think we— study has confirmed something that i think we really knew. that i think we all really knew. hopeful,— that i think we all really knew. hopefully-the- that i think we all really knew. hopefully -the old. hopefully that puts the old unconscious— hopefully that puts the old unconscious bias lobby to bed. i'll unconscious bias lobby to bed. ru eu— unconscious bias lobby to bed. en tell you— unconscious bias lobby to bed. i'll tell you the— unconscious bias lobby to bed. i'll tell you the -of- i'll tell you the results of thee— i'll tell you the results of thee-very- i'll tell you the results of that very shortly. in that survey very shortly. in ether— that survey very shortly. in other-though,- that survey very shortly. in other though, is the civil other news, though, is the civil service — other news, though, is the civil service-ruse— other news, though, is the civil service just coming service now just coming after rrerer— service now just coming after anoney rrrr— service now just coming after anyone that disagree anyone that they disagree with ideologically?— anyone that they disagree with ideologaccused _ anyone that they disagree with ideologaccused of being bully stands accused of being a bully . it stands accused of being a bully . r renewe— stands accused of being a bully . it follows dominic do . it follows dominic raab, do you— . it follows dominic raab, do yer-mer— . it follows dominic raab, do yer-rrrr ru— . it follows dominic raab, do you that all those woke you think that all those woke erewrrrkee— you think that all those woke snowflakes service snowflakes in the civil service jeer— snowflakes in the civil service rue-eer— snowflakes in the civil service rrer-eer r— snowflakes in the civil service rrer-eer r grip- snowflakes in the civil service rrer-eer r grip e- snowflakes in the civil service just get a grip .7 in just need to get a grip? in errer— just need to get a grip? in errer rere— just need to get a grip? in other news, jihadi gangs have rrrrrrrrree— other news, jihadi gangs have infiltrated our— other news, jihadi gangs have infiltrated our prisons and are run— infiltrated our prisons and are run erre— infiltrated our prisons and are full sing forcing— infiltrated our prisons and are full sing forcing prisoners to eererr— full sing forcing prisoners to eererr re— full sing forcing prisoners to convert to islam.— full sing forcing prisoners to convert to islam. frankly, on per— convert to islam. frankly, on par er— convert to islam. frankly, on pain of death.— convert to islam. frankly, on pain of death. what does all of me— pain of death. what does all of me really— pain of death. what does all of this really mean?— pain of death. what does all of this really mean? is it a concern going- this really mean? is it a concern going forward? because rrrrrrrrery— concern going forward? because ultimately they'll— concern going forward? because ultimately they'll released ultimately they'll be released irre— ultimately they'll be released r...0_,- ultimately they'll be released r..o_, wer-rl ultimately they'll be released. into_, won't they? into the population, won't they? are— into the population, won't they? are-re— into the population, won't they? are-re reu— into the population, won't they? are-re weu ,— into the population, won't they? and-as well, us- into the population, won't they? and as well, us gambling and finally as well, us gambling prerrerr — and finally as well, us gambling ererrerr rew— and finally as well, us gambling problem now tough for rules and rege— problem now tough for rules and reee rer— problem now tough for rules and regs for gamblers.— problem now tough for rules and regs for gamblers. is this all rere— regs for gamblers. is this all rrerr e— regs for gamblers. is this all rrerr e re— regs for gamblers. is this all right ? is this— regs for gamblers. is this all right ? is this safe or actually right? is this safe or actually , re— right? is this safe or actually , re re— right? is this safe or actually , is r e— right? is this safe or actually , is it a curtailment on our ervrr— , is it a curtailment on our civil liberties— , is it a curtailment on our civil liberties of- , is it a curtailment on our civil liberties of all that? i'm recr— civil liberties of all that? i'm rrrer, rrrer— civil liberties of all that? i'm much, much more coming your way

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silencing nurses is silencing patients . the chs general patients. the chs general secretary, pat cullen, says the government has lost the trust of nurses and the public. this is the darkest day in this dispute. so far. any government that would drag their nursing staff through the courts , they've won through the courts, they've won their legal battle today . but their legal battle today. but what this has led to is they've lost nursing and they've lost the public. they've taken the most trusted profession through the courts by the least trusted people . labour leader sir keir people. labour leader sir keir starmer , meanwhile, is urging starmer, meanwhile, is urging the government to resolve the pay the government to resolve the pay dispute. the nurses don't want to be on strike. they want a want to be on strike. they want e eererrrrerr— want to be on strike. they want a government that's— rzzr" they want a government that's negotiating and rerkrre— a government that's negotiating and rerkrre ee— a government that's negotiating and talking to them, not taking ererr — and talking to them, not taking ererr re— and talking to them, not taking ererr re cere— and talking to them, not taking them to court. i— and talking to them, not taking them to court. i think most people— them to court. i think most people scratching their head and eeyrre— people scratching their head and saying rrereee— people scratching their head and saying instead of— people scratching their head and saying instead of going to cere— saying instead of going to err, irre— saying instead of going to court, just get— saying instead of going to court, just get on with reeervrre— court, just get on with resolving the- court, just get on with resolving the underlying issues erer-ve— resolving the underlying issues they've conditions they've created, the conditions rrer— they've created, the conditions rrer-rree— they've created, the conditions that huge pressure that have put huge pressure on people— that have put huge pressure on new“! reeeree— that have put huge pressure on people because the economy reer-r— people because the economy hasn't worked— people because the economy hasn't worked for over a decade many— hasn't worked for over a decade

many reeere— hasn't worked for over a decade now. many people have had ereererr— now. many people have had stagnant wages.— now. many people have had stagnant wages. their living eeereeree— stagnant wages. their living standards have— stagnant wages. their living standards have gone down, not up. standards have gone down, not re. se— standards have gone down, not re. se ere— standards have gone down, not up. so the government had bears a up. so the government had bears e heavy— up. so the government had bears a heavy responsibility. and i rrrrk— a heavy responsibility. and i rrrrk-eeeere- a heavy responsibility. and ii think-people-say a heavy responsibility. and i- think-people-say get think most people would say get on think most people would say get er err— think most people would say get er mm h,— think most people would say get er wrrr re, eer— think most people would say get on with it, get round table on with it, get round the table ere— on with it, get round the table and reeerre— on with it, get round the table and resolve-issues- on with it, get round the table and resolve issues as and resolve these issues as eewrrre— and resolve these issues as downing street— and resolve these issues as downing street insist ministers rrrer— downing street insist ministers rrrer ee— downing street insist ministers rrrer re erre— downing street insist ministers must be able to— downing street insist ministers must be able to challenge civil eewerre— must be able to challenge civil servants robustly. _ must be able to challenge civil servants robustly. c f r: servants robustly. it comes amid reports that concerns have been raised about health secretary steve barclay's behaviour towards colleagues. when asked about the alleged complaints, a government spokesman said ministers should be able to test and challenge civil servants and their political advisers . their political advisers. downing street claims rishi sunak never been made aware of any informal concerns about steve barclay's conduct . the steve barclay's conduct. the foreign secretary says the government's continuing to assist british nationals in leaving sudan and has urged them to make their way to the airport for evacuation. as soon as possible. british forces are racing to evacuate as many people as possible before the ceasefire ends later today. we know that. so far more than 530 british citizens have been flown

to safety on six separate flights, speak in the house of commons. james cleverly said the uk was also looking into assisting countries with no diplomatic presence in the country. arnie diplomatic presence in the country . arnie for those on the country. arnie for those on the ererre— country. arnie for those on the ererre ,— country. arnie for those on the ererre , ee— country. arnie for those on the ground , re vou— rtritr. arnie for those on the ground , as you would rt.ri:r. arnie for those on the ground , as you would expect, we ground, as you would expect, we are ground, as you would expect, we errerrrree— ground, as you would expect, we are prioritise those— ground, as you would expect, we are prioritise those in greatest reee— are prioritise those in greatest need rrrerer— are prioritise those in greatest need through allocating seats besee— need through allocating seats eeeee er— need through allocating seats based on vulnerability, starting err— based on vulnerability, starting with families— based on vulnerability, starting with families with children. the ereerrr— with families with children. the ereerrr rre— with families with children. the elderly, the disabled or people err— elderly, the disabled or people with documented— elderly, the disabled or people with documented medical conditions— with documented medical conditions ._ with documented medical conditions . as— with documented medical conditions . as we have been conditions. as we have been rerrrrre— conditions. as we have been rerrrrrre ,— conditions. as we have been notifying , british nationals notifying, british nationals regrereree— notifying, british nationals registered with us about the eeerr— registered with us about the eeerr rre— registered with us about the about the evacuation flights as even— about the evacuation flights as werr ee— about the evacuation flights as well as announcing them through our well as announcing them through rever— well as announcing them through our travel advice— well as announcing them through our travel advice and also rrrerer— our travel advice and also through organic social media rerwerke— through organic social media rerwerke er— through organic social media networks of british nationals in sreer— networks of british nationals in sreer . — networks of british nationals in sreer . rre— networks of british nationals in sudan . d sudan. the government has unveiled the biggest shake up of gambling laws in 15 years. it says it aims to redress the power imbalance between punters and operators. check s to better protect even those unable to afford small losses are among the plans, as well as maximum

stakes for online slot machines . as culture secretary lucy frazer says it will also help prevent addiction in schools in england are facing disruption today as tens of thousands of teachers have gone on strike. national education union members have walked out over pay year 11 and year 13. classes are being prioritised with exams just weeks away. more strikes have been announced for the summer term after union members reject the government's pay offer. joint general secretary of the new mary bousted says teachers are experienced seeing hardship, got teachers who are skipping meals. we've got teachers not reerrre— meals. we've got teachers not reerrre rrerr— we've got teachers not heating their homes, we've got reeerere— heating their homes, we've got teachers taking— heating their homes, we've got teachers taking on second jobs wrer— teachers taking on second jobs wrer rrer— teachers taking on second jobs when they already work the most ereere— when they already work the most unpaid-of— when they already work the most ereere-er err— unpaid overtime of all professions. - unpaid overtime of all professions. that's the reality of professions. that's the reality er wrer— professions. that's the reality of what teachers— professions. that's the reality of what teachers are facing and me— of what teachers are facing and re re— of what teachers are facing and re re wrer— of what teachers are facing and that is what the— of what teachers are facing and that is what the government has to that is what the government has re free.— that is what the government has re free. rrer— that is what the government has to face. that reality. if we warr— to face. that reality. if we werr e— to face. that reality. if we want a well— to face. that reality. if we want a well educated nation and if want a well educated nation and r we— want a well educated nation and r we warr— want a well educated nation and r we werr rre— want a well educated nation and if we want the education that our children— if we want the education that our children deserve. meanwhile, the our children deserve. meanwhile, we asrrr— our children deserve. meanwhile, the aslef unions— our children deserve. meanwhile,

the aslef unions announced its rrerr— the aslef unions announced its rrerr erwere— the aslef unions announced its train drivers will— the aslef unions announced its train drivers will stage three errwee— train drivers will stage three new strikes in— train drivers will stage three new strikes in their long rwrrrre— new strikes in their long running dispute over pay . running dispute over pay. two of the running dispute over pay. two of we werkewes— running dispute over pay. two of the walkouts will— running dispute over pay. two of the walkouts will happen in may and one will take place on the 3rd of the day of the fa 3rd of june, the day of the fa cup final. it's after the union rejected a 4% pay offer . labour rejected a 4% pay offer. labour peer ruth anderson has told gb news the scandal engulfing diane abbott is depressing and that she hopes it isn't the downfall of her career. the mp for hackney north had the labour whip removed for comments she made in the observer newspaper for suggesting hadn't for suggesting jews hadn't experienced racism. speaking to gloria de piero, the national vice chair of jewish labour said she was tired of the anti—semitism row continuing to plague the party. this is sad and miserable— plague the party. this is sad and miserable and- g this is sad and miserable and takes us back to and miserable and takes us back re e— and miserable and takes us back re e prece— and miserable and takes us back re e ereee r— and miserable and takes us back to a place i don't— and miserable and takes us back to a place i don't want to be r. — to a place i don't want to be r. we— to a place i don't want to be r. we reed— to a place i don't want to be in. we need to— to a place i don't want to be in. we need to find- to a place i don't want to be in. we need to find a- to a place i don't want to be in. : �*" r: in. we need to find a way through this. we need to find a way through where there is a level of dignity for diane too, because it's really important for community there is for her community and there is no hierarchy racism. racism no hierarchy of racism. racism is and she has had

is racism and she has had horrible experiences. i want everybody just— horrible experiences. i want everybody just to _ t i want everybody just to move forward. are— everybody just to move forward. are were— everybody just to move forward. and we're meant— everybody just to move forward. and we're meant to— everybody just to move forward. and we're meant to be- everybody just to move forward. and we're meant to be on- everybody just to move forward. and we're meant to be on the same side. this is gb news. we'll bring you more as it rappers.— we'll bring you more as it reprere rew— we'll bring you more as it happens. now, though, it's back to happens. now, though, it's back re wee.— to you. patrick welcome along. to you. patrick- welcome along. now, i re wee. rerrrek— welcome along. now, i wanted to start today with a study that undermines all the talk that racism is just rampant across the united kingdom. a new report claims that we live in one of the least racist countries in the least racist countries in the world. a survey of 24 top nafions the world. a survey of 24 top nations found that just 2% of brits, just 2, wouldn't want to have someone of a different race as their neighbour. and when it comes to living alongside an immigrant or foreign worker , the immigrant or foreign worker, the figure is only 5. now, in both categories, the uk is less racist than the united states , racist than the united states, france, italy . frankly, loads of france, italy. frankly, loads of countries actually . i'm joined countries actually. i'm joined now by the actor and writer femi

nylander to discuss all of this. femi, look, thank you very much for joining me. i've got to be forjoining me. i've got to be honest, this goes a long way to undermine saying frankly, what the said britain a the un said, that britain is a long from being a racially long way from being a racially just that ethnic just society, that ethnic minorities are living fear of minorities are living in fear of systemic racism . well, patrick, systemic racism. well, patrick, do you know anything about cognitive psychology and reporting bias ? it's a it's a reporting bias? it's a it's a concept , basically, which says concept, basically, which says that when survey respondents are responding to a, um, a survey that often have bias , um, and that often have bias, um, and when you want to find something out, if you ask a question of the person who is supposedly the perpetrator of the wrong, they're not going to know. no one is answering a survey going, i am a racist. you have me on a few weeks ago and that was a survey to talk about a different survey. and that was a survey survey to talk about a different surveyminorities was a survey survey to talk about a different surveyminorities werei survey survey to talk about a different surveyminorities were talking where minorities were talking about experience same not about their experience same not apply. had very . apply. and that had a very. well, thing. it's a well, that's the thing. it's a very by that logic the

very different by that logic the same apply for them because very different by that logic the samewould pply for them because very different by that logic the samewould maybe them because very different by that logic the samewould maybe be am because they would maybe be more inclined they are inclined to say that they are suffering . well, no, but suffering. well, no, but possibly. possibly suffering. well, no, but possibly . possibly you have. possibly. possibly you have. rer— possibly. possibly you have. re r— possibly. possibly you have. but i mean, at the end of the day, if i ask someone how tall are you on a survey, if someone's five nine, they'll probably it up to six foot probably bump it up to six foot or to least ten for me, or to at least five, ten for me, is it i mean, this is a survey which asks british people if they feel like they're racist, but it's not surely there would be the same level of cognitive bias. right. in places like rer— bias. right. in places like iran, russia,— right. in places like iran, russia, japan, china, ereeee— iran, russia, japan, china, ereeee ,— iran, russia, japan, china, greece , morocco, south korea, greece, morocco, south korea, egypt,— greece, morocco, south korea, egypt rerere— greece, morocco, south korea, egypt rerere .— greece, morocco, south korea, egypt, poland , italy, the egypt, poland, italy, the rrrrrrrrree— egypt, poland, italy, the philippines, indonesia, mexico, sparr— philippines, indonesia, mexico, seerr ,— philippines, indonesia, mexico, seerr , wreerre— philippines, indonesia, mexico, spain , nigeria, france, austria, spain, nigeria, france, austria, awerrerre— spain, nigeria, france, austria, awerrerre ,— spain, nigeria, france, austria, australia , canada, united states australia, canada, united states and australia, canada, united states ere newer.— australia, canada, united states ere werwew. arr— australia, canada, united states and norway. all countries who eeeree— and norway. all countries who eeeree rrerer— and norway. all countries who scored higher than us. so do rrew— scored higher than us. so do rrew rer— scored higher than us. so do rrew rer erre— scored higher than us. so do they not care about not seeming wre— they not care about not seeming we were— they not care about not seeming like racists? but.— they not care about not seeming like racists? but. but we do . like racists? but. but we do. are— like racists? but. but we do. are were— like racists? but. but we do. and we're the— like racists? but. but we do. and we're the only ones who are rwrre— and we're the only ones who are rwrre re— and we're the only ones who are rrvrre re eever— and we're the only ones who are rrvrre re we— and we're the only ones who are trying to cover up our racism . trying to cover up our racism. no,— trying to cover up our racism. n0, re— trying to cover up our racism. n0, r— trying to cover up our racism. n0, r rer-r— trying to cover up our racism. no, no, i don't think that's reeeeeerrrv— no, no, i don't think that's necessarily true. and i think we— necessarily true. and i think rrer-rre— necessarily true. and i think that the countries you that some of the countries you reree— that some of the countries you- rarer—erewerre named, they do have big problems wrrr—.— named, they do have big problems wrrr—. we— named, they do have big problems wrrr—. we ere- named, they do have big problems with_. no one said- with xenophobia. no one said rrerere— with xenophobia. no one said england _countryi with xenophobia. no one said england country in england is the only country in the england is the only country in rre—ree— england is the only country in the—has problems. england is the only country in. the—has problems with the world that has problems with xereereere.— the world that has problems with xenophobia._has| xenophobia. japan famously has had xenophobia. japan famously has reelrer—

xenophobia. japan famously has reelrer er— xenophobia. japan famously has had lot of problems the had a lot of problems in the peer— had a lot of problems in the peer wrrr— had a lot of problems in the past with xenophobia with past with xenophobia and with eeerlrreerr— past with xenophobia and with seen itself superior to seen as itself as superior to we— seen as itself as superior to we wereere— seen as itself as superior to the koreans, to— seen as itself as superior to the koreans, to the chinese. rr-e— the koreans, to the chinese. it's immediate— the koreans, to the chinese. it's immediate neighbours, so no re— it's immediate neighbours, so no re eevrre— it's immediate neighbours, so no one is saying england is the errv— one is saying england is the errv eewrrrv— one is saying england is the only country xenophobia. only country with xenophobia. no one only country with xenophobia. no ere-wer— only country with xenophobia. no ere-rrer eerre- only country with xenophobia. no one -that some lthe . one is saying that some of the ewe— one is saying that some of the other—deserve. one is saying that some of thei other—deserve to other countries don't deserve to be other countries don't deserve to re—arr— other countries don't deserve to re—arr rer- other countries don't deserve to be_all i'm saying. other countries don't deserve to bethat all i'm saying other countries don't deserve to bethat to all i'm saying other countries don't deserve to bethat to say all i'm saying other countries don't deserve to bethat to say that i'm saying other countries don't deserve to bethat to say that the saying other countries don't deserve to bethat to say that the uk'ing other countries don't deserve to bethat to say that the uk isn't is that to say that the uk isn't reerer— is that to say that the uk isn't racist because _ is that to say that the uk isn't racist because british people reve— racist because british people reve erre— racist because british people have said that— racist because british people have said that they are not were— have said that they are not were ere— have said that they are not racist and not— have said that they are not racist and not to look at the evreree— racist and not to look at the evidence, not— racist and not to look at the evidence, not look racist and not to look at the evidence, not-look of evidence, not to look at some of we— evidence, not to look at some of we rrererre— evidence, not to look at some of the rhetoric-came- evidence, not to look at some of the rhetoric came out the rhetoric which came out erewre— the rhetoric which came out around—look. the rhetoric which came outi around—look at the rhetoric which came outi ar0lof _look at the rhetoric which came outi ar0lof the-look at the rhetoric which came out ar0lof the institutionalok at the rhetoric which came out ar0lof the institutional aspects any of the institutional aspects wrrer— any of the institutional aspects wrrer erew— any of the institutional aspects which show that— any of the institutional aspects which show that the uk people which show that in the uk people of which show that in the uk people er-ere— of minorities are disproportionately likely to of minorities are— disproportionately likely to be peer— disproportionately likely to be poor disproportion likely to be in poor disproportion likely to be r we— poor disproportion likely to be in the criminal— poor disproportion likely to be in the criminal justice system, disproportionately likely to be errrrree— disproportionately likely to be errrrree re— disproportionately likely to be entitled to free— disproportionately likely to be entitled to free school meals disproportionately likely to be the disproportionately likely to be we vrerrrre— disproportionately likely to be the victims of— disproportionately likely to be the victims of aggravate covid um the victims of aggravate covid wrr reerer— the victims of aggravate covid wrr reerer ,— the victims of aggravate covid um racial , highly— the victims of aggravate covid um racial, highly motivated r— um racial, highly motivated crime. i mean— um racial, highly motivated crime. i mean the evidence of rrrrerr— crime. i mean the evidence of rrrrerr rere— crime. i mean the evidence of britain being a— crime. i mean the evidence of britain being a society which ree— britain being a society which ree eerewe— britain being a society which has serious problems with institutional— has serious problems with institutional racism are all were.— institutional racism are all were are— institutional racism are all there. and this— institutional racism are all there. and this is a survey wrrer— there. and this is a survey wrrer ree— there. and this is a survey which has asked british people are which has asked british people ver— which has asked british people are you racist? _ which has asked british people are you racist? ' r: are you racist? and no one, i mean, you can't you can't draw conclusions by saying , do you

conclusions by saying, do you like me ? i've got i have got like me? i've got i have got i reve— like me? i've got i have got i reve eer— like me? i've got i have got i reve eer re— like me? i've got i have got i reve eer re eer— like me? i've got i have got i have got to say, no,- t t�*rt;7’ i've got i have got i have got to say, no, i'm t “t;7 i've got i have got i have got to say, no, i'm not. wrrr— have got to say, no, i'm not. we wee-re— have got to say, no, i'm not. what you're what— have got to say, no, i'm not. what you're what you - have got to say, no, i'm not. what you're what you are doing here is just picking and choosing your evidence to suit your argument. know that britain is a your argument. know that britain re e weer.— your argument. know that britain is a racist. isn't— your argument. know that britain is a racist. isn't that— your argument. know that britain is a racist. isn't that the- . 57g know that britain is a racist. isn't that the same rrrre— is a racist. isn't that the same rrrre veere— is a racist. isn't that the same thing you're doing— is a racist. isn't that the same thing you're doing when you. i erer-r— thing you're doing when you. i erer-r ee— thing you're doing when you. i didn't do this— thing you're doing when you. i didn't do this study. this is weeee — didn't do this study. this is evidence. this— didn't do this study. this is evidence. this is another, ererrer,— evidence. this is another, another, another study from the policy— another, another study from the policy institute _ another, another study from the policy institute at— another, another study from the policy institute at king's cerreee— policy institute at king's college london. i mean, king's college— college london. i mean, king's college, london— college london. i mean, king's college, london loads of college, london will do loads of redee— college, london will do loads of erweree.-re— college, london will do loads of sewer-re e— college, london will do loads of studies. is a british. studies. i mean, is a british. rer— studies. i mean, is a british. rwrlrrev— studies. i mean, is a british. rwrlrrev err— studies. i mean, is a british. butlthey put out- studies. i mean, is a british. but they put out study, if but if they put out a study, if rrev— but if they put out a study, if rrev-ewr— but if they put out a study, if rrev-ewr e— but if they put out a study, if they-out a study- but if they put out a study, if they out a study or they put out a study or eerrerrrre— they put out a study or- something-example, something on, for example, the eeererrv— something on, for example, the eeererrvlrre — something on, for example, the economy-the-that- something on, for example, the economy the that people economy or the way that people reer— economy or the way that people feel-presumably- economy or the way that people feel presumably you'd economy or the way that people feeinclined presumably you'd economy or the way that people feeinclined to iresumably you'd economy or the way that people feeinclined to believe )ly you'd economy or the way that people feeinclined to believe that. u'd be inclined to believe that. wen,— be inclined to believe that. wen-re— be inclined to believe that. wen-re r— be inclined to believe that. well,-is it that- be inclined to believe that. well, is it that when it well, why is it that when it comes-like- well, why is it that when it comes-like race,| well, why is it that when it. comes-like race, that comes to things like race, that reeeeeerrrv— comes to things like race, that necessarily-don't- comes to things like race, that necessarily don't don't necessarily people don't don't warr— necessarily people don't don't werrleeeeer— necessarily people don't don't want. accept the _ necessarily people don't don't want accept the findings, not want to accept the findings, not reeeeeerrrv. — want to accept the findings, not reeeeeerrrv. r— want to accept the findings, not necessarily. i don't— want to accept the findings, not necessarily. i don't i don't reeeeeerrrv— necessarily. i don't i don't necessarily trust that a study is eereer— necessarily trust that a study is correct because it comes out of is correct because it comes out er e— is correct because it comes out er e reweeerr— is correct because it comes out of a russell group— is correct because it comes out of a russell group university reeewe— of a russell group university because one, i— of a russell group university because one, i mean, all these reweeerr— because one, i mean, all these reweeerr erewe— because one, i mean, all these russell group lists. i went to errere— russell group lists. i went to oxford myself— russell group lists. i went to oxford myself ,_ russell group lists. i went to oxford myself , right? 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british lists— british newspapers and the british lists that do it. and we,— british lists that do it. and we, er— british lists that do it. and it's, of course,— british lists that do it. and it's, of course, a- british lists that do it. and it's, of course, a british rewererer— it's, of course, a british newspaper and a british list is going— newspaper and a british list is going re— newspaper and a british list is going re rer— newspaper and a british list is going re err e— newspaper and a british list is going to put a british institution— going to put a british institution in as the best in we— institution in as the best in we were.— institution in as the best in the world. the— institution in as the best in the world. the ones they'll put revere— harvard people tend to institutions— harvard people tend to institutions within countries rere— institutions within countries rere re— institutions within countries tend to support— institutions within countries tend to support their countries. are— tend to support their countries. are r— tend to support their countries. are r e— tend to support their countries. and if a university— tend to support their countries. and if a university motty comes out and if a university motty comes err wrrr— and if a university motty comes err wrrr e— and if a university motty comes out with a report— and if a university motty comes out with a report saying that we— out with a report saying that we ur— out with a report saying that we uw re— out with a report saying that the uk is one— out with a report saying that the uk is one of— out with a report saying that the uk is one of the less or rear— the uk is one of the less or reeer reeer— the uk is one of the less or least least racist- the uk is one of the less or least least racist country in we— least least racist country in we were,— least least racist country in the world, i'm— least least racist country in the world, i'm actually less rrerrree— the world, i'm actually less inclined _it- the world, i'm actually less. inclined _it because inclined to believe it because wewre— inclined to believe it because would - believe _ inclined to believe it because would believe this would you believe this is this is would you believe this is this re re— would you believe this is this re rrrelrrre— would you believe this is this is this-this is— would you believe this is this is this-this is the- would you believe this is this is this this is the issue is this is this is the issue rever— is this is this is the issue though, isn't— is this is this is the issue though, isn't it? because what were— though, isn't it? because what would-believe?- though, isn't it? because what would-believe? it- though, isn't it? because what would believe? it does sound would you believe? it does sound to would you believe? it does sound re-rre— would you believe? it does sound re-rre ee— would you believe? it does sound to-me as though- would you believe? it does sound to me as though you're to me for me as though you're a bit disappointed— to me for me as though you're a bit disappointed that study bit disappointed that a study ree— bit disappointed that a study has—britain- bit disappointed that a study has—britain is- has shown that britain is errereer— has shown that britain is amongst-least- has shown that britain is amongst least racist. i have amongst the least racist. i have rerrrre— amongst the least racist. i have rerrrre-wrrr— amongst the least racist. i have nothing with study. a nothing wrong with this study. a reev— nothing wrong with this study. a erwev-erwev— nothing wrong with this study. a erwev-erwev .— nothing wrong with this study. a study study . they've study is a study. they've asked the study is a study. they've asked rre—erwev.- study is a study. they've asked rre—erwev. r-rrl the questions, the study. i'm rewire— the questions, the study. i'm talking about— the questions, the study. i'm talking about what i know. i'm rewire— talking about what i know. i'm rervrre erewr— talking about what i know. i'm talking about facts talking about the facts and rever— talking about the facts and. figures—talking talking about the facts and. figure:the_talking talking about the facts and figurezthe fact talking talking about the facts and figurezthe fact that talking talking about the facts and figurezthe fact that in talking talking about the facts and figurezthe fact that in the .ing talking about the facts and figurezthe fact that in the uk about the fact that in the uk weev— about the fact that in the uk rreev reeere— about the fact that in the uk black people are— about the fact that in the uk black people are seven times mere-re— black people are seven times mere-re ee— black people are seven times more-to be in- black people are seven times more to be in prison. i'm more likely to be in prison. i'm rewire— more likely to be in prison. i'm rerwre-reer- more likely to be in prison. i'm talking-fact that- more likely to be in prison. i'm talking fact that in talking about the fact that in the talking about the fact that in men— talking about the fact that in the-i-personal- talking about the fact that in the i personal friends the uk i have personal friends wre— the uk i have personal friends wre-reer— the uk i have personal friends who-been beaten- the uk i have personal friends who been beaten up because who have been beaten up because of who have been beaten up because er rrerr— who have been beaten up because er rrerr rece— who have been beaten up because of their race. i'm— who have been beaten up because of their race. i'm talking about the of their race. i'm talking about we recr— of their race. i'm talking about the fact that— of their race. i'm talking about the fact that i— of their race. i'm talking about the fact that i in— of their race. i'm talking about the fact that i in the uk, i werer— the fact that i in the uk, i werer er— the fact that i in the uk, i watch gb news- the fact that i in the uk, i watch gb news all the time and i see watch gb news all the time and i ver— watch gb news all the time and i vew rervrre— watch gb news all the time and i see you talking about migrants. i see you talking about migrants. r see—

see you talking about migrants. r ver— see you talking about migrants. i see you talking— see you talking about migrants. i see you talking about people wre— i see you talking about people wre ver— i see you talking about people wre vew rer-r— i see you talking about people who you don't want to come in rreeee— who you don't want to come in rreeeeleeeere— who you don't want to come in floods-people-to. who you don't want to come in. floods-people-to these floods of people coming to these eereer— floods of people coming to these eereer er— floods of people coming to these shores. et cetera. _ floods of people coming to these shores. et cetera. et cetera. r-rr — shores. et cetera. et cetera. r-rr rewire— shores. et cetera. et cetera. i'm talking about what i know, revrre— i'm talking about what i know, revrre-rere— i'm talking about what i know, having-here for- i'm talking about what i know, having here for 28 years having lived here for 28 years ere— having lived here for 28 years and beer— having lived here for 28 years and been born— having lived here for 28 years and been born here and grown up rere— and been born here and grown up rere ere— and been born here and grown up here and studied— and been born here and grown up here and studied the actual recre— here and studied the actual reere ere— here and studied the actual facts and figures about racism in facts and figures about racism r we— facts and figures about racism r we ur— facts and figures about racism in the uk versus— facts and figures about racism in the uk versus a survey which eeereerrv— in the uk versus a survey which basically asks— in the uk versus a survey which basically asks people, are you werew— basically asks people, are you were r— basically asks people, are you racist? it doesn't— basically asks people, are you racist? it doesn't ask anyone. reve— racist? it doesn't ask anyone. reve ver— racist? it doesn't ask anyone. have you experienced racism? they— have you experienced racism? rrev rev— have you experienced racism? rrev rev vee. — have you experienced racism? rrev rev vew. r— have you experienced racism? they ask you. it doesn't mean, as werr— they ask you. it doesn't mean, as werr re— they ask you. it doesn't mean, as werr re re— they ask you. it doesn't mean, as well to be clear— they ask you. it doesn't mean, as well to be clear on it. i r— as well to be clear on it. i r we— as well to be clear on it. i mean, if we aren't doing the recre— mean, if we aren't doing the were, r— mean, if we aren't doing the facts, it doesn't— mean, if we aren't doing the facts, it doesn't ask people were— facts, it doesn't ask people whether-not— facts, it doesn't ask people whether not whether or not whether or not whether or not were— whether or not whether or not rrev-re-eev- whether or not whether or not they're ask people they're racist. it ask people wre— they're racist. it ask people wre-veere— they're racist. it ask people who would comfortable they're racist. it ask people who nextlould comfortable they're racist. it ask people who next door comfortable they're racist. it ask people who next door to, comfortable they're racist. it ask people who next door to, which rtable they're racist. it ask people who next door to, which is ble they're racist. it ask people who next door to, which is a e living next door to, which is a perv— living next door to, which is a ererrv—rerl pretty strong indication. for empre— pretty strong indication. for exampler-and- pretty strong indication. for example, and the example, of racism and the survey— example, of racism and the survey wru— example, of racism and the survey will have- example, of racism and the survey will have been conducted erervrrewerv— survey will have been conducted anonymously could survey will have been conducted anonjanswered could survey will have been conducted anonjanswered it could survey will have been conducted anonjanswered it in could survey will have been conducted anonjanswered it in any could survey will have been conducted anonjanswered it in any wayuld survey will have been conducted anonjanswered it in any way that have answered it in any way that rrev— have answered it in any way that rev—se— have answered it in any way that they—sow r— have answered it in any way that they—sow r rreer- they would like. so, i mean, we— they would like. so, i mean, rr-e-rr— they would like. so, i mean, it's-in exactly- they would like. so, i mean, it's in exactly same it's done in exactly the same way— it's done in exactly the same wev-wewre— it's done in exactly the same way would conduct way as you would conduct a survey— way as you would conduct a ewrvevlverrre— way as you would conduct a survey voting intention or survey on voting intention or ervrrrre—rrreel survey on voting intention or. anything—lines. and survey on voting intention or. and hing—lines. and survey on voting intention or. and dog—lines. and survey on voting intention or. and do just-lines. and survey on voting intention or and do just wonder lines. and survey on voting intention or and do just wonder whetherand survey on voting intention or and do just wonder whether orl so i do just wonder whether or rer— so i do just wonder whether or not we're veering— so i do just wonder whether or not we're veering into the rerrrrerv— not we're veering into the territory here _ not we're veering into the territory here of discounting eerrerrrre. — territory here of discounting eerrerrrre. r— territory here of discounting something. cc?" c territory here of discounting something. r:rt:r“ c territory here of discounting something. r: c c something. i don't i wasn't there. idon't something. i don't i wasn't there. i don't know- something. i don't i wasn't there. i don't know if- something. r:rtr“ c c “11111 i don't know if the there. i don't know if the survey— there. i don't know if the ewrvev we— “11111 i don't know if the survey was conducted properly. i rer-r— survey was conducted properly. i eer-r vrew— survey was conducted properly. i eer-r vrew r— survey was conducted properly. i don't know if there _ survey was conducted properly. i don't know if there was. but you rer-r.— don't know if there was. but you eer-r. rer— don't know if there was. but you eer-r. rer vee.— don't know if there was. but you don't. but you. but— don't know if there was. but you don't. but you. but you do. but wrer— don't. but you. but you do. but wrer-vrew— don't. but you. but you do. but wrer-vrew re- don't. but you. but you do. but what-know is that- don't. but you. but you do. but

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narrative is. and asks people , survey against what the narrative is. and asks people , do rurvey against what the narrative is. and asks people , do youy against what the narrative is. and asks people , do you feel which asks people, do you feel rive— which asks people, do you feel we were— which asks people, do you feel like you're racist— which asks people, do you feel like you're racist or do you reer— like you're racist or do you reer rive— like you're racist or do you feel like it— like you're racist or do you feel like it doesn't it doesn't rev— feel like it doesn't it doesn't rev rrerr— feel like it doesn't it doesn't ask them that,— feel like it doesn't it doesn't ask them that, though. the evreree— ask them that, though. the evidence, evidence that evidence, the evidence that enter— evidence, the evidence thati rrrrrer—re british people don't want to rive— british people don't want to live—polish- british people don't want to i live _ polish people live next door to polish people ere— live next door to polish people and errrre— live next door to polish people and ethnic minorities is that en rreeee-veree— and ethnic minorities is that en masse-voted to— and ethnic minorities is that en masse voted to the and ethnic minorities is that en. masse -voted to _the eu masse they voted to leave the eu rereerv— masse they voted to leave the eu rereerv reeewee— masse they voted to leave the eu largely because of— masse they voted to leave the eu largely because of the fact that we— largely because of the fact that rrev erre— largely because of the fact that rrev eere ere— largely because of the fact that they said and they're documented. that was and everve— documented. that was and everyone would- documented. that was and everyone would have known, would reve— everyone would have known, would reve ree— everyone would have known, would reve reelrrere— everyone would have known, would have led more immigration have led to more immigration freer— have led to more immigration rrerr rre— have led to more immigration from the subcontinent and amer.— from the subcontinent and arrree. se— from the subcontinent and africa. so anyone who really veree— africa. so anyone who really veree re— africa. so anyone who really voted to leave— africa. so anyone who really voted to leave the european wrrer— voted to leave the european union that union because they thought that it union because they thought that rr—rewer- union because they thought that it_lower lower- it would lead to lower lower errrre— it would lead to lower lower ethnic-seriously- it would lead to lower lower ethnic seriously misguided. ethnic was seriously misguided. i'm ethnic was seriously misguided. r-rr eevrre— ethnic was seriously misguided. r-rr eevrre rer-r— ethnic was seriously misguided. i'm saying don't put words in my rewr— i'm saying don't put words in my rrewrr. r-rr— i'm saying don't put words in my rrewrr. r-rr wer— i'm saying don't put words in my mouth. i'm just saying that we knew— mouth. i'm just saying that we vrew e— mouth. i'm just saying that we vrew e rer— mouth. i'm just saying that we vrew e rer er— mouth. i'm just saying that we know a lot of people voted to reeve— know a lot of people voted to reeve ere— know a lot of people voted to leave the european union because we— leave the european union because rrev erer-r— leave the european union because rrev erer-r were— leave the european union because they didn't want polish people erewre— they didn't want polish people erewre ere— they didn't want polish people around and-don't- around and they don't want arrreere— around and they don't want africans _and- around and they don't want africans _andllotl around and they don't want. africans _andllot of africans around. and a lot of eeeere— africans around. and a lot of eeeere-we- africans around. and a lot of people we should africans around. and a lot of. people-we should be people think that we should be

eererre— people think that we should be sending-seekers- people think that we should be sending seekers to sending asylum seekers off to rewarde— sending asylum seekers off to rwanda because— sending asylum seekers off to rwanda because they don't want to rwanda because they don't want re weeerrre— rwanda because they don't want to welcome people— rwanda because they don't want to welcome people into this eeere.— to welcome people into this eewrrrv. rr-e— to welcome people into this country. it's if— to welcome people into this country. it's if you really ask reerre— country. it's if you really ask reerrelvew— country. it's if you really ask peoplerlvou if— country. it's if you really ask people, you if you these are people, if you if you these are ere— people, if you if you these are ere-ere— people, if you if you these are ere-ere veer,— people, if you if you these are the-and yeah, but- people, if you if you these are the and yeah, but they're the facts and yeah, but they're not:— the facts and yeah, but they're rer, merge— the facts and yeah, but they're not, though, they? because not, though, are they? because if not, though, are they? because r-reerrv— not, though, are they? because r-reerrv rev— not, though, are they? because if really ask people it's if you really ask people it's eeewr— if you really ask people it's about illegal— if you really ask people it's about illegal economic migrants, it's about illegal economic migrants, rr-e-eeewr— about illegal economic migrants, it's-about people- it's not just about people that we— it's not just about people that erev—eerewr- it's not just about people that they—colour of. it's not just about people thati they—colour of or they don't like the colour of or we— they don't like the colour of or rrev-rrve— they don't like the colour of or they-like their- they don't like the colour of or they like their religion. they don't like their religion. are—re— they don't like their religion. and—is another. they don't like their religion.- and_is another thing and again, this is another thing in and again, this is another thing rr—eevee- and again, this is another thing in _ asked them i in this they also asked them eeewr— in this they also asked them about-asked- in this they also asked them . about-asked-about about it, also asked them about rrrererre— about it, also asked them about rrrererre-eerre- about it, also asked them about migrants same thing . migrants aren't the same thing. it migrants aren't the same thing. rr—rrerr— migrants aren't the same thing. rr—rrerr eeewr- migrants aren't the same thing. it them about well it also asked them about well you— it also asked them about well vee—eeere- you see, this is about international- you see, this is about international law here. right? ovev. — international law here. right? okay. international law. we're rewire— okay. international law. we'rei rerwre—rew talking about international law and ere— talking about international law end we reee— talking about international law and the idea that— talking about international law and the idea that when someone errvee-eewrrrv - and the idea that when someone arrives country, they're arrives at your country, they're eweeeeee — arrives at your country, they're. eweeeeee—ererree supposed to be basically granted at supposed to be basically granted er—er— supposed to be basically granted .r_or ererrrrrel at least a chance of claiming eevrwrr— at least a chance of claiming eevrwrrlrer— at least a chance of claiming eevrwrrlrer e— at least a chance of claiming asylum not a process that asylum if not a process that erre— asylum if not a process that eere-ovev— asylum if not a process that said -okay and - asylum if not a process that said okay and we're talking said no. okay and we're talking eeere— said no. okay and we're talking eeere ee— said no. okay and we're talking eeere ee ver— said no. okay and we're talking about do you do— said no. okay and we're talking about do you do you international law? no other eewrrrv— international law? no other country-world,- international law? no other country world, by the way country in the world, by the way . se — country in the world, by the way . se eevrre— country in the world, by the way . se eevrre rre— country in the world, by the way . so saying the uk— country in the world, by the way . so saying the uk is of the . so saying the uk is one of the reeer— . so saying the uk is one of the least-countries— . so saying the uk is one of the least-countrieslthe- least racist countries in the were— least racist countries in the world _other- least racist countries in the world other country at the world or no other country at the rrerrerr— world or no other country at the rrerrere—eerrevl world or no other country at thei moment,_policy of moment, that no has a policy of eererre— moment, that no has a policy of sending-seekers- moment, that no has a policy of sending-seekers off- moment, that no has a policy of sending seekers off to sending asylum seekers off to the sending asylum seekers off to ere-erre— sending asylum seekers off to ere-ewe er— sending asylum seekers off to the-side of the- sending asylum seekers off to the side of the world to the other side of the world to a eewrrrv— the other side of the world to a eewrrw-e— the other side of the world to a country a questionable country with a questionable rwrrer— country with a questionable rwrreer-r— country with a questionable humrdon't-to- country with a questionable humrdon't to have to they don't want to have to eeeee— they don't want to have to process-claims. - they don't want to have to process claims. it's process their claims. it's interesting. _ process their claims. it's interesting. should you interesting. you should you erewre— interesting. you should you should actually, should say that actually, eeeewee— should say that actually, because the _ should say that actually, because the european is because the european union is eeererererv—

desperately trying to do eerrerrrre— desperately trying to do- something-similar. desperately trying to do- som indeed-similar. desperately trying to do som indeed have similar. desperately trying to do som indeed have actually lar. desperately trying to do som indeed have actually created and indeed have actually created erreeere— and indeed have actually created outpos unfortunately for me, is again, unfortunately for me, is not again, unfortunately for me, is rer eeewreer— again, unfortunately for me, is not accurate-you- again, unfortunately for me, is not accurate. you know, not accurate. so, you know, were— not accurate. so, you know, were re— not accurate. so, you know, there is that— not accurate. so, you know, there is that gaping flaw in were.— there is that gaping flaw in rrere. eeere— there is that gaping flaw in there. again, just just around erre— there. again, just just around we err— there. again, just just around we er ver— there. again, just just around this off you you— there. again, just just around this off you you you do not eeeeer— this off you you you do not eeeerr rrer— this off you you you do not accept that britain is one of rre— accept that britain is one of rre-reerer— accept that britain is one of the racist countries in the least racist countries in rre— the least racist countries in we were. — the least racist countries in the world. you— the least racist countries in the world. you just don't accept rrer— the world. you just don't accept rrer-eeeeer— the world. you just don't accept that.-accept that- the world. you just don't accept that. accept that britain that. don't accept that britain is that. don't accept that britain re—reerer- is one of the least racist eewrrrree— is one of the least racist countries in— is one of the least racist countries in the world. i don't rrrrv— countries in the world. i don't rrrrv rre— countries in the world. i don't think it's the— countries in the world. i don't think it's the most racist eewrrrv— think it's the most racist country _world. . think it's the most racist country world. i didn't country in the world. i didn't ever-rrer— country in the world. i didn't ever-that this— country in the world. i didn't ever that this some of the ever say that this some of the reeere— ever say that this some of the reeere er— ever say that this some of the reeere er rrre— ever say that this some of the people on this list are of people on this list are some of rre— people on this list are some of ere—erre- people on this list are some of the—this list.- people on this list are some of the—this list. thei the countries on this list. the wrrree— the countries on this list. the erred-r— the countries on this list. the wrrree-r eee- the countries on this list. the united-i say, has. united states, as i say, has serious problems with xenophobia united states, as i say, has serioljapanilems with xenophobia united states, as i say, has serioljapan has s with xenophobia united states, as i say, has serioljapan has seriouslenophobia here. japan has serious ereererre— here. japan has serious problems, xenophobia . uk problems, xenophobia. the uk has eerrewe-wrrr— problems, xenophobia. the uk has serious with xenophobia serious problems with xenophobia . is serious problems with xenophobia .—re rrer— serious problems with xenophobia .—re rrer erre- . all i've said is that this ewrvev— . all i've said is that this ewrvev .— . all i've said is that this survey , which- . all i've said is that this survey , which goes to people and survey, which goes to people and eave— survey, which goes to people and eeve ree— survey, which goes to people and eeve re ver— survey, which goes to people and eeve re vew reer— survey, which goes to people and says, do you feel like you are rrerer— says, do you feel like you are rrerer re— says, do you feel like you are rrerer re rer— says, do you feel like you are racist is not as— says, do you feel like you are racist is not as clear evidence as racist is not as clear evidence ee eeere— racist is not as clear evidence ee eeere rer— racist is not as clear evidence ee eeere rer rre— racist is not as clear evidence as again, for me it— racist is not as clear evidence as again, for me it doesn't it eeeer-r— as again, for me it doesn't it eeeer-r eev— as again, for me it doesn't it doesn't say that,— as again, for me it doesn't it doesn't say that, does it? and erre— doesn't say that, does it? and we re— doesn't say that, does it? and we re rrre— doesn't say that, does it? and this is this is— doesn't say that, does it? and this is this is the— doesn't say that, does it? and this is this is the thing. the ewrvev— this is this is the thing. the ewrvev rrer— this is this is the thing. the survey that you— this is this is the thing. the survey that you invited me in to were— survey that you invited me in to were rre— survey that you invited me in to discuss the other— survey that you invited me in to discuss the other day was a few weeke— discuss the other day was a few weeve eee— discuss the other day was a few weeve eee .— discuss the other day was a few weeks ago . that— discuss the other day was a few weeks ago . that was a survey weeks ago. that was a survey wrrer— weeks ago. that was a survey wrrer rever— weeks ago. that was a survey which asked minorities, do you reer— which asked minorities, do you reer werre— which asked minorities, do you feel well? have— which asked minorities, do you feel well? have you had have you had experiences— feel well? have you had have you had experiences of— feel well? have you had have you had experiences of racial

aggravation?— had experiences of racial aggravation? have you that had a eerrrrererv— aggravation? have you that had a completely different, different, referee.— completely different, different, errererr. rr— completely different, different, different. it had— completely different, different, different. it had a completely it different. it had a completely rr ere.— different. it had a completely r we rer— different. it had a completely it did. but unfortunately, where i it did. but unfortunately, where r err-r— it did. but unfortunately, where r err-r rere— it did. but unfortunately, where i can't help but— it did. but unfortunately, where i can't help but feel as though it i can't help but feel as though rr ferre— i can't help but feel as though it falls down— i can't help but feel as though it falls down and— i can't help but feel as though it falls down and i appreciate rrre— it falls down and i appreciate this discussion. _ it falls down and i appreciate this discussion. for me, i rearw— this discussion. for me, i reerrv-r— this discussion. for me, i really-if you're- this discussion. for me, i really-if you're the really do is if you're using the regre— really do is if you're using the reere rrer— really do is if you're using the logic that-have- really do is if you're using the logic that have entered logic that people have entered rrre— logic that people have entered wre—ere- logic that people have entered into—and maybei logic that people have entered into looking and maybe logic that people have entered into looking to and maybe logic that people have entered into looking to an some be logic that people have entered into looking to an some form you're looking to get some form of you're looking to get some form er—rr.— you're looking to get some form er—re ere- you're looking to get some form er—re ere rre- of answer out of it, and the rrrre— of answer out of it, and the same thing has— of answer out of it, and the same thing has to apply to that, eeeer-r— same thing has to apply to that, eeeer-r rre— same thing has to apply to that, doesn't it? that's— same thing has to apply to that, doesn't it? that's the problem wrrr—rre- doesn't it? that's the problem. with _the problem with surveys. that's the problem wrrr— with surveys. that's the problem wrrr-eerree— with surveys. that's the problem with called quality with what's called quality lviv ere— with what's called quality lviv and-collection. - with what's called quality lviv and collection. it's and data collection. it's qualitative— and data collection. it's qualitative have qualitative research. you have ewerrrerrve.— qualitative research. you have ewerrrerrvvew— qualitative research. you have qualitativyou qualitative research, you have qualitative ere— and quantitative. qualitative is like-interviews- and quantitative. qualitative is like-interviews ,- and quantitative. qualitative is like interviews , focus like in—depth interviews, focus eeere.— like in—depth interviews, focus groups,_research. like in—depth interviews, focus groups, research is groups, qualitative research is rrer— groups, qualitative research is we r— groups, qualitative research is we r vee— groups, qualitative research is we r vee re— groups, qualitative research is we r vee e— groups, qualitative research is just a yes no, a, b, c, d, and you— just a yes no, a, b, c, d, and vew eer— just a yes no, a, b, c, d, and vew rev— just a yes no, a, b, c, d, and you can ask leading questions. ver— you can ask leading questions. vee eer— you can ask leading questions. vee reve— you can ask leading questions. you can have bias— you can ask leading questions. you can have bias , and it you can have bias, and it eeeer-r— you can have bias, and it doesn't always- you can have bias, and it doesn't always come up with reewrre— doesn't always come up with reewrre rrer— doesn't always come up with results that are _ doesn't always come up with results that are trustable. and at results that are trustable. and er rre— results that are trustable. and er ere-er— results that are trustable. and at the .of the _ results that are trustable. and at the .of the day,- results that are trustable. and at the of the day, both of at the end of the day, both of rreee— at the end of the day, both of rreee eeer— at the end of the day, both of these both of— at the end of the day, both of these both of these reports have we— these both of these reports have we wrrr— these both of these reports have come up with very— these both of these reports have come up with very different eeere.— come up with very different eeere-rr— come up with very different results. - at the - come up with very different results. at the end of the results. and at the end of the day,— results. and at the end of the eee—r- results. and at the end of the eee—r errrerl results. and at the end of thei day,_if either of day, we don't know if either of rrerr — day, we don't know if either of them .trustworthy. - day, we don't know if either of them trustworthy. can them are trustworthy. all i can rew— them are trustworthy. all i can rerv eeewr— them are trustworthy. all i can rerv eeere re— them are trustworthy. all i can talk about is what— them are trustworthy. all i can talk about is what i know is veer— talk about is what i know is veer-ewr— talk about is what i know is your-own lived- talk about is what i know is your own lived experience. talk about is what i know is your understanded experience. talk about is what i know is your understand that.:)erience. talk about is what i know is your understand that. and nce. and i understand that. and i reeeeer— and i understand that. and i reereerlrer— and i understand that. and i respect-for-i'm- and i understand that. and i respect for i'm aware of respect it. for me, i'm aware of rere— respect it. for me, i'm aware of rere rrere— respect it. for me, i'm aware of hard facts and— respect it. for me, i'm aware of hard facts and figures. it's a rere— hard facts and figures. it's a rere rrer— hard facts and figures. it's a hard fact that— hard facts and figures. it's a hard fact that 7% that that week— hard fact that 7% that that week reeere— hard fact that 7% that that black people are overrepresented in black people are overrepresented rr rre— black people are overrepresented r we erreer— black people are overrepresented in the prison system. i get

in the prison system. so i get rrer— in the prison system. so i get we we— in the prison system. so i get we we re— in the prison system. so i get that we are going— in the prison system. so i get that we are going to have we are going— that we are going to have we are going re— that we are going to have we are going re-re— that we are going to have we are going re-re ve- that we are going to have we are going to to move on. for going to have to move on. for related— going to have to move on. for me,-afraid.-right.- going to have to move on. for me, afraid. right. okay, me, i'm afraid. all right. okay, reme— me, i'm afraid. all right. okay, rere-ver— me, i'm afraid. all right. okay, rere-vee verv- me, i'm afraid. all right. okay, femi, you very much. thank femi, thank you very much. thank vee.— femi, thank you very much. thank vee—vee. - femi, thank you very much. thank vee—vee. arrl you. thank you. thank you. all rrere. — you. thank you. thank you. all rrere. -re— you. thank you. thank you. all rrere.-re ver- you. thank you. thank you. all right.-to you again- right. i'll talk to you again soon-about- right. i'll talk to you again- soon.-about another soon. no doubt, about another ewrvev— soon. no doubt, about another ewrvev-were— soon. no doubt, about another survey. nana under there. survey. femi nana under there. were.— survey. femi nana under there. rrere.-eeer— survey. femi nana under there. right. _actor and- survey. femi nana under there. right. actor and indeed right. who's actor and indeed wrrrer. —rew- right. who's actor and indeed writer. _now, we| writer. so moving on now, we wru— writer. so moving on now, we wrrr-rrere- writer. so moving on now, we will-more.thatl will have lots more on that ererv—rre- will have lots more on that| story _the course story throughout the course of the story throughout the course of ere—rremi story throughout the course of. ere—freer rre the show. but now more from the rreerrre— the show. but now more from the moaning-service.— the show. but now more from the moaning service. after moaning civil service. after eerrrre— moaning civil service. after getting dominic raab, it getting rid of dominic raab, it reeve— getting rid of dominic raab, it reeve-rrev-re— getting rid of dominic raab, it looks they're now out to looks like they're now out to get— looks like they're now out to rer-rererev. - looks like they're now out to get- barclay. - it's l get steve barclay. and it's reeerree— get steve barclay. and it's reported the reported that barclay is now the ewe-eer— reported that barclay is now the subject-informal— reported that barclay is now the subject informal complaints subject of informal complaints eeere— subject of informal complaints about-behaviour- subject of informal complaints about behaviour downing about his behaviour. downing srreer— about his behaviour. downing srreer-rrer- about his behaviour. downing street that ministers street has said that ministers rrwer— street has said that ministers rrwer ee— street has said that ministers rrwer re erre— street has said that ministers must be able to— street has said that ministers must be able to quote, robustly ererreree— must be able to quote, robustly challenge civil— must be able to quote, robustly challenge civil servants, while rererer— challenge civil servants, while foreign secretary— challenge civil servants, while foreign secretary james cleverly has foreign secretary james cleverly he referred— foreign secretary james cleverly has defended barclay and said the has defended barclay and said we reerrr— has defended barclay and said the health secretary is quote, eeeerwrerv— the health secretary is quote, absolutely not— the health secretary is quote, absolutely not a— the health secretary is quote, absolutely not a bully. i'm rerree— absolutely not a bully. i'm rerree rew— absolutely not a bully. i'm rerree ev— absolutely not a bully. i'm joined now by gb news political eerrer— joined now by gb news political eerrer derrer— joined now by gb news political editor darren mccaffrey to give us editor darren mccaffrey to give we-rewrewe— editor darren mccaffrey to give we-rewrewe er- editor darren mccaffrey to give us roundup of what's us a quick roundup of what's going— us a quick roundup of what's eerre—sreve- going on here. so, steve renew— going on here. so, stevei renew—er going on here. so, steve- barclay,_of being barclay, well, accused of being a barclay, well, accused of being e berry— barclay, well, accused of being e ewrrv .— barclay, well, accused of being e rwrrv . veer— barclay, well, accused of being e rwrrv . veer .— barclay, well, accused of being a bully , yeah , but not in a bully, yeah, but not in a rerrrer— a bully, yeah, but not in a formal sense,— a bully, yeah, but not in a formal sense, as you've rightly eerrree— formal sense, as you've rightly rerrree err. — formal sense, as you've rightly pointed out. t ”rt; “ pointed out. patrick reports, in the guardian today suggesting that that as health secretary, he regularly blasted staff in front of others , that he was

front of others, that he was constantly angry and that he holds people over the coals and is generally a bit unpleasant. now it'll be up to people at home and across the country and potentially up to the government again that again to decide whether that constitute bullying. as constitute us bullying. but as i say, formal complaints say, no formal complaints have been there concern been made and there is concern clearly across whitehall and at the top of the conservative party that this is another concerted attempt to try and get rid of a cabinet minister. now clearly dominic raab had to resign after he was found guilty of bullying by an independent report, though many felt including the former deputy prime minister, that the bar, as he called it, was too low for what constituted bullying. but as downing street not as you say, downing street not willing react frankly this willing to react frankly this afternoon, suggesting that there are no formal complaints and if you listen to senior conservatives, they're all pretty angry that these civil servants seem to two servants seem to run two newspapers. kuan yew newspapers. lee kuan yew information and making allegations rather than making some formal complaints through due process . so it some formal complaints through due process. so it is one to watch. but for the time being, i think steve barclay's not going

to go anywhere and downing street are not going to be willing to act until there's something concrete comes something more concrete comes forward. thank you very forward. darren, thank you very much. darren mccaffrey, rerrrreer— much. darren mccaffrey, political editor- “.rt.“ darren mccaffrey, political editor outside westminster- political editor outside westminster for us. i'm joined rew-erwere— westminster for us. i'm joined now studio charlie now in the studio by charlie rever— now in the studio by charlie rowley, _former- now in the studio by charlie rowley, former special rowley, who's a former special eevreer—eeve- rowley, who's a former special adviser—gove .- adviser to michael gove. creme.— adviser to michael gove. charlie,-is- adviser to michael gove. charlie, is starting to charlie, this is starting to reev— charlie, this is starting to reek .— charlie, this is starting to reek . rre— charlie, this is starting to look. the-in- charlie, this is starting to. look. the-in-would charlie, this is starting to- look. the-in-would say, look. the cynic in me would say, wre— look. the cynic in me would say, we erv— look. the cynic in me would say, like any minister,— look. the cynic in me would say, like any minister, that the ewe— like any minister, that the civil service— like any minister, that the civil service don't agree with reeereereerrv— civil service don't agree with ideologically is— civil service don't agree with ideologically is a bully. well it's ideologically is a bully. well we e— ideologically is a bully. well it's a radical— ideologically is a bully. well it's a radical us. '“r: it's a radical us. and what darren was saying was absolutely right. downing street have got no right. downing street have got ”g“ downing street have got no reason to respond to claims rrer— no reason to respond to claims erer ee— no reason to respond to claims that are currently— no reason to respond to claims that are currently unsubstantial wrere— that are currently unsubstantial wrere re— that are currently unsubstantial where no formal— that are currently unsubstantial where no formal complaint has eeer— where no formal complaint has eeer rreee. — where no formal complaint has been made. of— where no formal complaint has been made. o” rt.rt:r. try : been made. of course, anybody that does have a complaint, there is a proper process in place. we saw this last week wrrr—wre- place. we saw this last week wrrr—wre vesr- place. we saw this last week with _who yes, hasi with dom raab who yes, has reereree.— with dom raab who yes, has resigned. there— with dom raab who yes, has resigned. there were two counts eeerrer— resigned. there were two counts eeerrer e— resigned. there were two counts eeerrer e rerer— resigned. there were two counts against a total of— resigned. there were two counts against a total of eight. rrere— against a total of eight. were we— against a total of eight. that's two too— against a total of eight. - that's two too many. and that's why he resigned. _ that's two too many. and that's why he resigned. but- that's two too many. and that's why he resigned. but the- that's two too many. and that's why he resigned. but the way in which the nature of the complaints went through the newspapers , things were being newspapers, things were being leaked online, all these kinds of accusations were not misinformation. exactly. because

some of the accusations about throwing tomatoes and shouting about people totally bogus. about people was totally bogus. it didn't come to light. so i reve— it didn't come to light. so i reve re— it didn't come to light. so i revere eev— it didn't come to light. so i have to say that— it didn't come to light. so i have to say that if anybody does reve— have to say that if anybody does reve e— have to say that if anybody does have a complaint,— have to say that if anybody does have a complaint, they should eeeerwrerv— have a complaint, they should ereerwrerv 90— have a complaint, they should absolutely go through proper absolutely go through the proper rreeeee _wrv— absolutely go through the proper process. _why there's- absolutely go through the proper process. that's why there's one in national in place going through national newspapers, television newspapers, going on television , these tittle tattle , reporting these tittle tattle and hearsay is not something that a sensible , serious that a sensible, serious government should be doing. yeah i mean, dominic raab did vehemently actually on this channel being interviewed by olivia utley say that there were strong indications that there were activist elements of the civil service control or put forward by unions who were trying to bring down government ministers. is this what we're about to see again here with steve barclay? it is. steve barclay? well, it is. i think was reading this morning think i was reading this morning that the head of the civil service union has received the complaints himself and then obviously opted to talk about these claims again in national newspapers instead of forwarding them on to clearly the head of them on to clearly the head of the department health , sir the department of health, sir chris who as he said chris wormald, who as he said this morning, has not had a

single formal complaint. so there is something “rgrt; so there is something quite so there is something quite telling eeere— there is something quite telling eeere rreee— there is something quite telling about those making the about those that are making the eeeweerrere— about those that are making the accusations, people that are eeewre— accusations, people that are backing those _ accusations, people that are backing those accusations that are anti—government, are all quite anti—government, i reve— are all quite anti—government, i reve-ere— are all quite anti—government, i reve-ere rer— are all quite anti—government, i have and not willing to have to say, and not willing to go have to say, and not willing to 90 rrrewer— have to say, and not willing to 90 rrrewer rre— have to say, and not willing to go through the proper process eeeewee— go through the proper process because people— go through the proper process because people just be a because people might just be a rrere— because people might just be a were we— because people might just be a mere err rewr— because people might just be a little bit put out— because people might just be a little bit put out that a rrrrrerer— little bit put out that a minister who's been in a very, verv— minister who's been in a very, very eerewe— minister who's been in a very, very serious-the- minister who's been in a very, very serious the department very serious job, the department of very serious job, the department er—erevrewe- very serious job, the department er—erevrewe rere- of health and previous jobs refere— of health and previous jobs before to before that might just want to rere—e- before that might just want to rere—e err- before that might just want to. hold—a bit more. hold you to account a bit more. reev— hold you to account a bit more. reek rre— hold you to account a bit more. reek rre veer— hold you to account a bit more. look the vast majority of people wererrre— look the vast majority of people wererrre-rew- look the vast majority of people watching - now and - watching this show now and rrveerr— watching this show now and myself include— watching this show now and myself include have not had were— myself include have not had drastic firsthand— myself include have not had drastic firsthand experience of the drastic firsthand experience of we ervrr— drastic firsthand experience of the civil service— drastic firsthand experience of the civil service in a way that i the civil service in a way that r eereeev— the civil service in a way that i daresay that— the civil service in a way that i daresay that maybe you have. is i daresay that maybe you have. re rrere— i daresay that maybe you have. re erere e— i daresay that maybe you have. is there a bias— i daresay that maybe you have. is there a bias in— i daresay that maybe you have. is there a bias in the— i daresay that maybe you have. is there a bias in the civil- is there a bias in the civil service? there is definitely a tension in the civil service for sure, because and that's understandable. you know, there are understandable. you know, there eeeere— understandable. you know, there people verv— understandable. you know, there people verv. verv— are people very, very hard werwre— are people very, very hard werwre-rr- are people very, very hardi working-in-civil working people in the civil eervree— working people in the civil service who,— working people in the civil service who, whether at the service who, whether it's at the eereer— service who, whether it's at the behest-ministers- behest of the ministers or previouslvv — behest of the ministers or previously, identify previously, they can identify ereererre. — previously, they can identify. rrerrerre—rre problems. they go and do the research. - projects. i problems. they go and do the research. projects. research. they lead projects. if research. they lead projects. rrlre— research. they lead projects. rrlre rre— research. they lead projects. iflis the case— research. they lead projects. iflis the case that- research. they lead projects. iflis the case that the- if it is the case that the minister the wants to minister at the time wants to take different tact or doesn't take a different tact or doesn't agree that, of agree or thinks that, then of course you that quite course you can take that quite personally. but you to be personally. but you need to be erre— personally. but you need to be eere re— personally. but you need to be eere re verv— personally. but you need to be able to work together- but you need to be able to work together with your rrrrrerer. — able to work together with your

minister. _some- able to work together with your minister. some seems to able to work together with your minitake some seems to able to work together with your minitake criticism ne seems to able to work together with your minitake criticism ae seems to able to work together with your minitake criticism ae toons to me, take criticism a bit too rererrv— me, take criticism a bit too rererrv ere— me, take criticism a bit too harshly and personally and eeeree— harshly and personally and eeeree re— harshly and personally and decide to describe it as bullying-— decide to describe it as bullying. that is not the way rrer— bullying. that is not the way we rre— bullying. that is not the way that the civil— bullying. that is not the way that the civil service should werv. — that the civil service should werv. rrere— that the civil service should work. that's not— that the civil service should work. that's not the way that eeverrrrerr— work. that's not the way that government can— work. that's not the way that government can get the things work. that's not the way that goveit ment can get the things work. that's not the way that goveit needs:an get the things work. that's not the way that goveit needs to get the things work. that's not the way that goveit needs to done,ie things work. that's not the way that goveit needs to done, getiings work. that's not the way that goveit needs to done, get done. that it needs to done, get done. are— that it needs to done, get done. are-reed— that it needs to done, get done. are-reed ee— that it needs to done, get done. and-need to make— that it needs to done, get done. and-need to make .that,| and we need to make sure that, you ministers decide and you know, ministers decide and they that are a lot they are the ones that are a lot of people think that rishi sunak should more should have had more of a backbone stood for backbone and stood up for dominic kept in dominic raab and kept him in post. i mean, if i steve post. i mean, if i was steve bartley i'd very bartley now, i'd be very concerned think we've concerned. well, i think we've rrer— concerned. well, i think we've twee-re— concerned. well, i think we've rwer-re were— concerned. well, i think we've just-to wait and— concerned. well, i think we've just-to wait and see. - t t: well, i think we've just to wait and see. just got to wait and see. as i say.— just got to wait and see. as i see re— just got to wait and see. as i see re rerrrer— just got to wait and see. as i say, no formal complaints have been made. i mean, dominic raab, you said before, he you know, as i said before, he asked for the inquiry to take place and did say place himself, and he did say that would resign was that he would resign if he was found to fallen below the standard expected. and standard that was expected. and he's and he's done that. and so, you vrew— he's done that. and so, youi know,-can-sleep he's done that. and so, you- know,-can-sleep over know, people can lose sleep over ereeeee-rr-e— know, people can lose sleep over process,-it's dominic- process, whether it's dominic reeee— process, whether it's dominic reeee rrer— process, whether it's dominic raab that resigned or whether he was raab that resigned or whether he wee—rre- raab that resigned or whether he was—it's neither. was sacked. i mean, it's neither rere— was sacked. i mean, it's neither ree—re- was sacked. i mean, it's neither ree—re rereerl here nor there. he's no longer in here nor there. he's no longer rr position-— here nor there. he's no longer in position. and— here nor there. he's no longer in position. and that's that. rer— in position. and that's that. re r— in position. and that's that. re r rrrrv— in position. and that's that. but i think if— in position. and that's that. but i think if you're steve renew— but i think if you're steve barclay, should barclay, you should be absolutely— barclay, you should be absolutely committed and reeewere— absolutely committed and redouble—andl absolutely committed and- redouble_and your redouble your efforts and your determination— redouble your efforts and your determination things determination to get the things rrer— determination to get the things erer-rere.— determination to get the things. that-done,-that that you want done, because that is that you want done, because that re wrer— that you want done, because that re we we — that you want done, because that is what the government expects ere— is what the government expects ere erer-e— is what the government expects

ere were-vee— is what the government expects and that's you weren't and that's that you weren't ewrrree— and that's that you weren't ewrrree bv- — and that's that you weren't bullied by. w. t c bullied by. michael gove absolutely not. and i've never ere— absolutely not. and i've never end rerrrer. — absolutely not. and i've never and neither. steve— absolutely not. and i've neveri and neither. steve-by and neither. steve barclay, by the way, actually the only and neither. steve barclay, by the wthat actually the only and neither. steve barclay, by the wthat i actually the only and neither. steve barclay, by the wthat i knowially the only and neither. steve barclay, by the wthat i know about|e only and neither. steve barclay, by the wthat i know about stevei thing that i know about steve barclay was chief of barclay was when he was chief of staff boris johnson in barclay was when he was chief of staff borisjohnson in number staff to boris johnson in number ten after the partygate he sent an special an email out to all special advisers create advisers and tried to create a totally different culture about bringing people in. door was bringing people in. his door was always went for always open and that went for anybody. whether you're in the catering cleaners at number catering team cleaners at number 10, everybody. the door was always steve i think always open to steve and i think that's man who think he that's the man who i think he is. and i'm sorry that these erreeerrere— is. and i'm sorry that thesei allegations—but allegations are out there, but r-rr — allegations are out there, but r-rr-rrev-rr— allegations are out there, but i'm they'll defended . i'm sure they'll be defended. crerrre— i'm sure they'll be defended. creme-verv- i'm sure they'll be defended. charlie,-very much.| charlie, thank you very much. charlie, thank you very much. charlie there, charlie rowley there, who's special special special adviser, former special adviser , now adviser to michael gove, now talking to steve barclay. he's involved of involved in another one of the big today. actually. involved in another one of the big won today. actually. involved in another one of the big won his day. actually. involved in another one of the big won his legalrctually. involved in another one of the big won his legalrctualto he's won his legal fight to declare the nurses strike declare the next nurses strike unlawful . is declare the next nurses strike unlawful. is it declare the next nurses strike unlawful . is it coincidence? unlawful. is it coincidence? possibly. could this be a coincidence that he's also up for bullying? i'm for bullying? but anyway, i'm patrick christys news patrick christys on gb news britain's

sometimes it can just be a personality thing. earlier on, gb news well , personality thing. earlier on, gb news well, it's been a lively

start to the show, so let's crack on, shall we? there's a big development— tt trt“ 7 there's a big development today in the ongoing— big development today in the ongoing dispute— big development today in the ongoing dispute between the eeverrrrerr— ongoing dispute between the government and the country's rreeeer— biggest nursing union strike eeerer—rre- biggest nursing union strike action the royal action planned by the royal cerreee—rexri college of nursing for next rweeeev— college of nursing for next tuesday-been- college of nursing for next tuesday been called off tuesday has been called off erer— tuesday has been called off erer-rrer— tuesday has been called off afterlhigh court- tuesday has been called off after high court judge ruled after a high court judge ruled it after a high court judge ruled rr veere— after a high court judge ruled it would unlawful. i'm going it would be unlawful. i'm going to it would be unlawful. i'm going reev-e— it would be unlawful. i'm going re-ever-rewrl to whizz this over now to paul rewwre— to whizz this over now to paul rewwre er— to whizz this over now to paul hawkins, gb news is national reeerrer— hawkins, gb news is national rererrer wre-e— hawkins, gb news is national reporter who's got the latest on all reporter who's got the latest on errlrrre. — reporter who's got the latest on all-this. paul— reporter who's got the latest on all-this. paul yeah,- reporter who's got the latest on all this. paul yeah, hi , all of this. paul yeah, hi, rerrrek. — all of this. paul yeah, hi, patrick. yeah,- all of this. paul yeah, hi, patrick. / ”catty all of this. paul yeah, hi, patrick. “cir?" ”rtattyr thtrr: all of this. paul yeah, hi,- patrick. yeah, really dodi not that surprising . a decision from that surprising. a decision from judge justice linden earlier today given that the government lawyers were in court arguing for this injunction, saying that the 48 hour strike, that the royal college of nurses were starting on sunday at 8 pm, lasting through to tuesday , was lasting through to tuesday, was in fact illegal because the second half of that dispute, the second half of that dispute, the second 24 hours that stretched into tuesday, went over the six month window that they are allowed to have once they balloted back in no november. and the royal college of nursing weren't legally represented in court. there was a witness

statement from pat cullen, the boss of the rcn that was read out that was submitted to the judge. but we sat in court and we just heard submissions from a lawyer representing the government. and just to read you some of the comments from justice judge linden, he said that the union had acted with a high degree of unreasonable. he said that the outcome was inevitable and that the union, instead of grasping the nettle and conceding, had instead forced the case to court. so he granted the injunction to the government to shorten the strike action that comes after this weekend . and he also ordered the weekend. and he also ordered the union to pay the legal costs afterwards, just behind me, outside court, we heard from pat cullen , the general secretary of cullen, the general secretary of the royal college of nursing, and is what to say. and this is what she had to say. this the darkest day in this this is the darkest day in this ereewre— this is the darkest day in this eeere-.— this is the darkest day in this ereewre-. arv- this is the darkest day in this dispute . any government dispute so far. any government rrer— dispute so far. any government we were— dispute so far. any government that would drag— dispute so far. any government that would drag their nursing erer— that would drag their nursing staff through— that would drag their nursing staff through the courts , staff through the courts, rrev-ve — staff through the courts, they've won their legal battle reeev. — they've won their legal battle reeev. rer— they've won their legal battle today. but what— they've won their legal battle today. but what this has led to is today. but what this has led to re rrev-ve— today. but what this has led to

is they've lost— today. but what this has led to is they've lost nursing and rrev-ve— is they've lost nursing and rrev-ve reer— is they've lost nursing and they've lost the - is they've lost nursing and they've lost the public. they've reker— they've lost the public. they've rerer rre— they've lost the public. they've taken the most— they've lost the public. they've taken the most trusted rrereeerer— taken the most trusted profession in- taken the most trusted profession in through the courts by rre— profession in through the courts by we reeer— profession in through the courts by the least trusted people . by the least trusted people. seme— by the least trusted people. serre eeere— by the least trusted people. some people, patrick, were eewre— some people, patrick, were eewre were— some people, patrick, were asking, well, why did they call the asking, well, why did they call rre errwee— asking, well, why did they call the strikes on— asking, well, why did they call the strikes on these dates, erver— the strikes on these dates, given rrer— the strikes on these dates, given that half— the strikes on these dates, given that half of the forthcoming- given that half of the forthcoming industrial action wewre— forthcoming industrial action wewre rrer— forthcoming industrial action would then stretch over the six rrerrr— would then stretch over the six month window? _ would then stretch over the six month window? “ month window? pat cullen was asked that and she said, look, we haven't made a mistake. this was our interpreter version of when could call the strike when we could call the strike action. with the action. we disagree with the health secretary's interpretation and the judges interpretation. nevertheless the strike action will have to be curtailed. it will have to finish by midnight on monday. pat cullen saying that, look, this is only going to enrage our members further . we could members even further. we could have strike action that now lasts all the way up to christmas. the health secretary stephen barclay welcomed, stephen barclay is welcomed, unsurprisingly, the decision today say he wants to work constructively with the rcn, he says, and he also wants to get round the table and talk about derogation plans this strike

derogation plans for this strike action coming the action that's coming after the week other words, week end. in other words, exemptions that work exemptions for staff that work in settings such as a&e, critical care, etcetera . at the critical care, etcetera. at the moment all rcn members are due to walk out from sunday evening . some people think that the reason that they decided to call these dates cynics anyway, would say that this is to kind of stoke up the feeling within the rcn that the government is after them, given that the last time members were balloted on the current pay deal from the government , only 54% on a 61% government, only 54% on a 61% turnout voted to reject the deal turnout voted to reject the deal. so it's going to be interesting to see how this plays out with members when they are eventually balloted in terms of strike action from other unions within the nhs. we know that is the biggest union that unison is the biggest union within nhs . voted to accept within the nhs. voted to accept the offer the government's pay offer yesterday. midwives from the royal college of midwifery, they voted to accept the pay offer and then at lunchtime some and then today at lunchtime some physiotherapists, at least physiotherapists, or at least physios , who members of the physios, who are members of the chartered of

chartered society of physiotherapy, they've in england, they've agreed to accept government's latest england, they've agreed to acceoffer. government's latest england, they've agreed to acceoffer. so )vernment's latest england, they've agreed to acceoffer. so it'lliment's latest england, they've agreed to acceoffer. so it'll beznt's latest pay offer. so it'll be interesting to see, given how those two unions have accepted the latest pay offer, see how that plays out with the royal college of nursing members when eventually they are balloted on action and indeed on that pay offer. lovely action and indeed on that pay offer . lovely stuff, paul. thank offer. lovely stuff, paul. thank you— offer. lovely stuff, paul. thank vee verv— offer. lovely stuff, paul. thank vee verv. verv— offer. lovely stuff, paul. thank you very, very much.- lovely stuff, paul. thank you very, very much. paul rewwre— you very, very much. paul hawkins, our— you very, very much. paul hawkins, our national reporter , hawkins, our national reporter, giving— hawkins, our national reporter, giving vee— hawkins, our national reporter, giving you-latest- hawkins, our national reporter, giving you latest on giving you the very latest on ere— giving you the very latest on ere-er— giving you the very latest on rre-er rew— giving you the very latest oni the-of now-strike. the lack of now nurses strike. rer-r— the lack of now nurses strike. rer-rlreeee— the lack of now nurses strike. isn'tlloads more- the lack of now nurses strike. isn't loads more still to isn't it loads more still to come between— isn't it loads more still to come between now and 4:00? i rrrrk— come between now and 4:00? i rrrrk rrre— come between now and 4:00? i rrrrk we re— come between now and 4:00? i think this is going— come between now and 4:00? i think this is going be a big think this is going to be a big erelvew. — think this is going to be a big one .you. we'll— think this is going to be a big one you. we'll talk one for you. we'll talk about jihadi— one for you. we'll talk about jihadi-prisons- one for you. we'll talk about jihadi prisons who are jihadi gangs in prisons who are rere— jihadi gangs in prisons who are eerre—rerrrre- being accused of telling other rrrreree— being accused of telling other inmates-convert— being accused of telling other inmates convert islam inmates to convert to islam or rrev-rr— inmates to convert to islam or rrev-rr ee— inmates to convert to islam or rrev-rr re rere.— inmates to convert to islam or they'll be hurt. and what does we— they'll be hurt. and what does rrre-eerre— they'll be hurt. and what does this going forward? this mean, going forward? reeewee— this mean, going forward?- because _will be because presumably they will be rereeeee— because presumably they will be released—streets- because presumably they will be relerday _streets- because presumably they will be relerday and streets because presumably they will be relerday and there's streets because presumably they will be relerday and there's news ets because presumably they will be relerday and there's news of big one day and there's news of big erereee— one day and there's news of big erereee rr— one day and there's news of big changes in gambling changes in the gambling rrewerrv. — changes in the gambling rrewerrv. r— changes in the gambling industry. i will ask how will we— industry. i will ask how will rrev ereer— industry. i will ask how will they affect the _ industry. i will ask how will they affect the millions of gambling— they affect the millions of gambling punters in the uk? and eerwerrv— gambling punters in the uk? and eerwerrv .— gambling punters in the uk? and eerwerrv . re— gambling punters in the uk? and actually , is this— gambling punters in the uk? and actually , is this just over actually, is this just over reewrerrer— actually, is this just over regulation or— actually, is this just over regulation or public health and eererv— regulation or public health and eererv e— regulation or public health and eererv e rer— regulation or public health and safety ? but first,— regulation or public health and safety ? but first, it's your safety? but first, it's your rereer— safety? but first, it's your latest news— safety? but first, it's your latest news headlines with rrrerrer— latest news headlines with rhiannon jones news.

latest news headlines with rhiannon jones news . rhiannon jones news. thank you, eeere.— rhiannon jones news. thank you, reerrev. rre— rhiannon jones news. thank you, patrick. it's coming up to 3:34. your top stories from the newsroom. strike action planned by the royal college of nursing for the 2nd of may would be unlawful. a high court judge has ruled the ch's six month mandate for strike action will have lapsed by tuesday . protests have lapsed by tuesday. protests by nurses took place outside court with signs saying silencing nurses is silenced . silencing nurses is silenced. patients the foreign secretary says the government's continuing to assist british nationals in leaving sudan and has urged them to make their way to the airport for evacuation as soon as possible. british forces are racing to rescue as many people as they can before the ceasefire ends tonight, more than 530 british citizens had been flown to safety as of yesterday evening , but the government says evening, but the government says that number is rising. 16,000 have fled sudan across the border into egypt, including 14,000 sudanese citizens . as

14,000 sudanese citizens. as schools in england are facing disruption today, as tens of thousands of teachers belonging to the national education union have walked out over pay year 11 and year 13, classes are understood to have been prioritised with exams just weeks away, more strikes have also been announced for the summer term after union members rejected the government's pay offer . the government rejected the government's pay offer. the government has unveiled the biggest shake up of gambling laws in 15 years. it says it aims to redress the power imbalance between punters and operators. gambling companies will have to step up checks to better protect even those unable to afford small losses. plans also include maximum stakes for online slot machines of between . two and £15 machines of between. two and £15 . there's some breaking news now. talk show host jerry spnnger now. talk show host jerry springer has died aged 79, according to tmz . the british according to tmz. the british american passed passed away at his home in chicago .

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gold and silver investment. goals. when i found that out exeerrv— goals. when i found that out exeerrv rre— goals. when i found that out exactly the same— c when i found that out exactly the same time as you. redres— exactly the same time as you. reeree ere— exactly the same time as you. ladies and gentlemen,- exactly the same time as you. ladies and gentlemen, jerry spnnger ladies and gentlemen, jerry springer desperately sad, sad news, isn't it? he's died at the age of 79. apparently he's passed away peacefully in his chicago home, and he was diagnosed with cancer just months ago. i mean, goodness gracious me, jerry springer is an absolute icon and a legend, isn't he? the jerry springer show will be playing you. a couple of clips of that bit couple of clips of that a bit later we'll talking a bit later on. we'll be talking a bit more of that. but yeah, that breaking news jerry breaking news that jerry spnnger breaking news that jerry springer has away springer sadly has passed away at 7 to 9. more on at the age of 7 to 9. more on that very shortly. but that very, very shortly. but now, report now, though, a new report published government's now, though, a new report publiadvisor, government's now, though, a new report publiadvisor, gbloom ent's now, though, a new report publiadvisor, gbloom ,nt's now, though, a new report publiadvisor, gbloom , has faith advisor, colin bloom, has claimed radical prisoners claimed that radical prisoners are forcing cellmates to are forcing fellow cellmates to convert to islam or face violence. the report has also claimed that sikh, hindu and black extremism in prisons is thriving due to the home office's focus being predominantly on right wing extremism. so is the home office and prison system failing to protect prisoners from forms of radicalisation? and what does all of this really mean? joining me now is security analyst. was

he he was he . thank you very he was he was he. thank you very much. i mean , i'm desperately much. i mean, i'm desperately concerned of this. concerned about all of this. i think idea of jihadi gangs think the idea of jihadi gangs forcefully people convert forcefully making people convert to islam on pain of a beating or even worse is quite shocking stuff. how is this going to translate into wider society ? translate into wider society? well, i don't think it's eerwerrv— well, i don't think it's actually as— well, i don't think it's actually as shocking as you rrere— actually as shocking as you rrrerr rrrrk— actually as shocking as you might think it— actually as shocking as you might think it is. jonathan rere— might think it is. jonathan rere ec— might think it is. jonathan hall, qc had actually raised this as a concern in his report. only last year, 12 months ago, wrer— only last year, 12 months ago, wrer re— only last year, 12 months ago, when he looked— only last year, 12 months ago, when he looked at jihadi gangs eeeerrrerrv— when he looked at jihadi gangs essentially controlling prisons. rew— essentially controlling prisons. wewwrer— essentially controlling prisons. now what colin— essentially controlling prisons. now what colin bloom seems to reve— now what colin bloom seems to reve rere— now what colin bloom seems to reve eere re— now what colin bloom seems to have done is heard— now what colin bloom seems to have done is heard of stories wrere— have done is heard of stories wrere erreer— have done is heard of stories where prison staff are hearing the where prison staff are hearing rre erreee— where prison staff are hearing the phrase convert or get hurt. are— the phrase convert or get hurt. are erre— the phrase convert or get hurt. are we ree— the phrase convert or get hurt. and this has been— the phrase convert or get hurt. and this has been used commonly by eeere— and this has been used commonly by erewre er— and this has been used commonly by erewre er eeree— and this has been used commonly by groups of gangs made predominantly of muslim rreerere— predominantly of muslim rreerere .— predominantly of muslim prisoners . and now when you prisoners. and now when you eerereer— prisoners. and now when you eerereer wrer— prisoners. and now when you consider what happens when these ereerere— consider what happens when these rreerere ee— consider what happens when these prisoners are released , if prisoners are released, if rrev-re— prisoners are released, if rrev-re rer— prisoners are released, if they're not tackled within the erreer — they're not tackled within the erreer evererr— they're not tackled within the erreer evererr .— they're not tackled within the prison system , is that they prison system, is that they eeere— prison system, is that they eeere ee— prison system, is that they could be doing— prison system, is that they could be doing this sort of a eeereee— could be doing this sort of a coerced lviv— could be doing this sort of a coerced lviv coercion and

conversion in— coerced lviv coercion and conversion in public and rreverrrre— conversion in public and preventing people from actually exerererre— preventing people from actually exercising erv— preventing people from actually exercising any sense of freedom of exercising any sense of freedom er rerrerer— exercising any sense of freedom er rerrerer er— exercising any sense of freedom of religion or belief or non—belief— of religion or belief or non—belief if- of religion or belief or non—belief if they want , because non—belief if they want, because we— non—belief if they want, because rrev eeere— non—belief if they want, because rrev eeere ee— non—belief if they want, because they could be hurt— non—belief if they want, because they could be hurt as a result of they could be hurt as a result er rer— they could be hurt as a result of not converting— they could be hurt as a result of not converting to islam and reeerrrre— of not converting to islam and reeerrrre e— of not converting to islam and becoming a muslim . t“ c becoming a muslim. i can't help but wonder whether or not there would be a different emphasis on this report if it had found out that was gangs of neo that there was gangs of neo going forcing people to going around forcing people to convert know, kind of convert to, you know, kind of far ideology . now, far right ideology. now, look, i'm there's of i'm sure that there's a bit of that around. not that going around. i'm not completely that completely ignorant to that fact, but when it looks at the predominantly muslim radical islamic gangs are forcing people to convert to islam, i mean, it implies to me that maybe the prison service is a bit too afraid do anything about it. afraid to do anything about it. well, certainly some well, there is certainly some evreeree— well, there is certainly some evreeree re— well, there is certainly some evidence to suggest that that is the evidence to suggest that that is we eee— evidence to suggest that that is the case. jonathan— evidence to suggest that that is the case. jonathan hall found the case. jonathan hall qc found rrer— the case. jonathan hall qc found we eerwerrv— the case. jonathan hall qc found that actually political correctness- that actually political correctness was one of the reasons—staff. correctness was one of the- reasons _ staff weren't reasons why prison staff weren't erre— reasons why prison staff weren't eere lreewe— reasons why prison staff weren't able .tackle some— reasons why prison staff weren't able tackle some of these able to tackle some of these gangs— able to tackle some of these eerge reeewee— able to tackle some of these gangs because gangs were gangs because the gangs were reeerrrre— gangs because the gangs were reeerrrre verv— gangs because the gangs were becoming very astute in being erre— becoming very astute in being eere re— becoming very astute in being able to accuse— becoming very astute in being able to accuse prison staff of islamophobia_ able to accuse prison staff of islamophobia or—

able to accuse prison staff of islamophobia or discrimination in islamophobia or discrimination rr ere— islamophobia or discrimination in and targeting— islamophobia or discrimination in and targeting them because rrev-re— in and targeting them because they're muslim— in and targeting them because they're muslim when actually rrer— they're muslim when actually we veere— they're muslim when actually that wasn't the _ they're muslim when actually that wasn't the case and they eerwerrv— that wasn't the case and they were actually being treated eewerrv— were actually being treated eewerrv reer— were actually being treated equally just like every other ereerer. — equally just like every other prisoner. and— equally just like every other prisoner. and so— equally just like every other prisoner. and so this is one of rre— prisoner. and so this is one of we rreererre— prisoner. and so this is one of the problems that— prisoner. and so this is one of the problems that we're facing in the problems that we're facing rr rre— the problems that we're facing r we erreer— the problems that we're facing in the prison system. is that eewrrewe— in the prison system. is that spurious claims— in the prison system. is that spurious claims of islam phobia are spurious claims of islam phobia rerrrerrre— spurious claims of islam phobia are hampering prison staff to be erre— are hampering prison staff to be eere re— are hampering prison staff to be eere re eeer— are hampering prison staff to be able to deal with— are hampering prison staff to be able to deal with this effectively _ able to deal with this effectively . ' “r: 3: able to deal with this- effectively . and indeed, what effectively. and indeed, what needs to actually happen going forward, really, because there are there are a lot of vulnerable people in prison and there are a lot of people who no doubt will be in fear of their life for being in there. and surely something to surely something needs to be done about and it done about this. and when it comes to the radical elements of it, actually comes to the radical elements of it, bent actually comes to the radical elements of it, bent on actually comes to the radical elements of it, bent on terrorism actually comes to the radical elements of it, bent on terrorism andially hell bent on terrorism and actual out out extremism , or actual out and out extremism, or whether appears to be less whether it appears to be less violent gangs, suppose. and violent gangs, i suppose. and i know a bit of a know there's a bit of a crossover in that venn diagram, but there's a school of thought that isolating these that says just isolating these people separate people in their own separate wings would be better because it stops the poison spreading. what do you think ? well, i think do you think? well, i think rrere-e— do you think? well, i think there's certainly— r:r:tr “

eeere— suggest that separating the most extreme prisoners— suggest that separating the most extreme prisoners could actually reve— extreme prisoners could actually reve e— extreme prisoners could actually reve e reerrrve— extreme prisoners could actually have a positive impact in terms of have a positive impact in terms er rre— have a positive impact in terms er rre wrere— have a positive impact in terms of the whole prison environment . rer— of the whole prison environment . rer rrere— of the whole prison environment . but there are— of the whole prison environment . but there are implications as a . but there are implications as e reeere— . but there are implications as e reeere er— . but there are implications as a result of that. _ . but there are implications as a result of that. and that's one of a result of that. and that's one er rre— a result of that. and that's one er rre ere— a result of that. and that's one er rre er— a result of that. and that's one of the one of the— a result of that. and that's one of the one of the martyr effect wrere— of the one of the martyr effect wrere reerre— of the one of the martyr effect where people who— of the one of the martyr effect where people who are being reereree— where people who are being isolated could— where people who are being isolated could be looked at as reeere— isolated could be looked at as reerre re— isolated could be looked at as reerre re re— isolated could be looked at as people to be looked up to and to be people to be looked up to and to re eeerree— people to be looked up to and to re eeerree re— people to be looked up to and to be aspired to so— people to be looked up to and to be aspired to so they can carry ewe— be aspired to so they can carry ewe rre— be aspired to so they can carry ewe rre rreer— be aspired to so they can carry out the most extreme acts and rrer— out the most extreme acts and rrer ee— out the most extreme acts and rrer re rewr— out the most extreme acts and then be put placed into these reeere.— then be put placed into these erreere. se— then be put placed into these prisons. so there— then be put placed into these prisons. so there is a balance in prisons. so there is a balance rr eerweer— prisons. so there is a balance in between that.— prisons. so there is a balance in between that. but essentially wrer— in between that. but essentially wrer we— in between that. but essentially wrer we reee— in between that. but essentially what we need to— in between that. but essentially what we need to do is we need to eeve— what we need to do is we need to empower our prison— what we need to do is we need to empower our prison staff to be erre— empower our prison staff to be eere re— empower our prison staff to be eere re eeer— empower our prison staff to be able to deal with— empower our prison staff to be able to deal with islamist rreerere— able to deal with islamist rreerere .— able to deal with islamist prisoners . even pro—khalistan prisoners. even pro—khalistan ereerere— prisoners. even pro—khalistan rreerere ee— prisoners. even pro—khalistan prisoners as well,— prisoners. even pro—khalistan prisoners as well, because that errereere— prisoners as well, because that errrreere eeerre— prisoners as well, because that emphasis seems to have been errree— emphasis seems to have been errree ewev— emphasis seems to have been shifted away from some of the ewe— shifted away from some of the other elements— shifted away from some of the other elements .— shifted away from some of the other elements . and to really other elements. and to really increase that— other elements. and to really increase that literacy in being erre— increase that literacy in being eere re— increase that literacy in being eere re eeer— increase that literacy in being able to deal with— increase that literacy in being able to deal with some of these ereerere— able to deal with some of these rreerere wre— able to deal with some of these prisoners who are— able to deal with some of these prisoners who are able to use rrer— prisoners who are able to use their religion— prisoners who are able to use their religion and— prisoners who are able to use their religion and use political correctness as— their religion and use political correctness as a— their religion and use political correctness as a way to further rrer— correctness as a way to further rrerr erre— correctness as a way to further rrerr . — correctness as a way to further their aims. was— correctness as a way to further their aims. was he- correctness as a way to further their aims . m“ their aims. was he thank you very much was he was he is a security analyst just reviewing the fact that now apparently radical jihadi gangs are being

called anyway are trying to convert people on pain of punishment within our prison system? moving on now, so there is a grim warning today for brits still still stuck in sudan.the brits still still stuck in sudan. the ceasefire is due to end in just a few hours time. so we'll be bringing you updates on all of that. i'm patrick christys on gb news. and we are

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programs on him a bit. and can i just say fabulous— programs on him a bit. and can i just say fabulous entertainment as just say fabulous entertainment ee werr— just say fabulous entertainment as well throughout the course of it? as well throughout the course of re wrer— as well throughout the course of re wrer er— as well throughout the course of it? what an absolute icon and an reenter.— it? what an absolute icon and an institution. jerry— it? what an absolute icon and an institution. jerry springer reerrv— institution. jerry springer reerrv — institution. jerry springer really was. and sad news that rer-r— really was. and sad news that rer-r re— really was. and sad news that rer-r re er— really was. and sad news that isn't it, of his— really was. and sad news that isn't it, of his passing at the age— isn't it, of his passing at the eee er— isn't it, of his passing at the age er 79.— isn't it, of his passing at the age er we are— isn't it, of his passing at the age of 79. and i— isn't it, of his passing at the age of 79. and i am, i promise you,— age of 79. and i am, i promise vee reererererv— age of 79. and i am, i promise you, desperately trying to dig out you, desperately trying to dig ewe eerre— you, desperately trying to dig ewe er— you, desperately trying to dig out some of jerry springer's eeer— out some of jerry springer's beer-rer— out some of jerry springer's best-for all— out some of jerry springer's best-for all of- out some of jerry springer's best for all of our best bits for all of our entertainment. there we go. reerr— entertainment. there we go. rerere-weer.- entertainment. there we go. right though, the latest right now, though, to the latest on right now, though, to the latest er-eeverrrrerr— right now, though, to the latest on government attempts on the government attempts to get on the government attempts to eer-rerrerere— on the government attempts to get-nationals-of- get british nationals out of eerer— get british nationals out of sweer. are— get british nationals out of sudan. and there's a grim werrrre— sudan. and there's a grim warning from _ sudan. and there's a grim warning from foreign warning from the foreign seerererv.— warning from the foreign secretary, cleverly . he secretary, james cleverly. he eeve—efferel secretary, james cleverly. he. says—efforts will says the evacuation efforts will be says the evacuation efforts will re rererrrerrv— says the evacuation efforts will be potentially impossible once a eeeeerrre— be potentially impossible once a ceasefire ends.— be potentially impossible once a ceasefire ends. a— be potentially impossible once a ceasefire ends. a total of 536 reerre— ceasefire ends. a total of 536 reerre reve— ceasefire ends. a total of 536 people have flown out of sudan on people have flown out of sudan er ew— people have flown out of sudan er ere rrrerre— people have flown out of sudan on six flights so— people have flown out of sudan on six flights so far. now it's rrewerr— on six flights so far. now it's rrewgrr rrer— on six flights so far. now it's thought that up— on six flights so far. now it's thought that up to 4000 brits rr rre— thought that up to 4000 brits were in the country when the eveewerrer — were in the country when the evacuation started. i'm joined by— evacuation started. i'm joined by er— evacuation started. i'm joined now by gb news— evacuation started. i'm joined now by gb news home and security eerer— now by gb news home and security eerrer erew— now by gb news home and security editor mark white. _ now by gb news home and security editor mark white. mark, is bad rer— editor mark white. mark, is bad rer reerre— editor mark white. mark, is bad news for people still stuck in sweere— news for people still stuck in sudan? basically, yes , it is. sudan? basically, yes, it is. are— sudan? basically, yes, it is. are er— sudan? basically, yes, it is. and of course— sudan? basically, yes, it is. and of course ,— sudan? basically, yes, it is. and of course , from - sudan? basically, yes, it is. and of course , from midnight and of course, from midnight tonight local time , there is tonight local time, there is going to be an end, we think, to the ceasefire. there are talks of sorts under way to see if

they can extend the ceasefire. but if they can't, i think it's likely the british government's advice to uk citizens who are still in sudan is probably to shelter in place rather than risk a journey to that airfield to get out because certainly that was the british government policy before then, patrick was to not to try to make the journey, even though germany and some other countries encouraged their citizens to try to get out, even though the fighting was ongoing. yeah. and on that, the british government has copped it a little bit. i mean, is it a fair comparison- copped it a little bit. i mean, is it a fair comparison to- c t c i mean, is it a fair comparison to say rrer— is it a fair comparison to say we we— is it a fair comparison to say we we reve— is it a fair comparison to say that we have done less than ree— that we have done less than re ere— that we have done less than france and germany? i mean, did we reve— france and germany? i mean, did we reve-rrere— france and germany? i mean, did we have more people to get we have just more people to get eere— we have just more people to get ewre wrer-e— we have just more people to get out? what's reality? we out? what's the reality? well we reve —re - out? what's the reality? well we reve —re eer- out? what's the reality? well we| reve—re eer ewe have got more people to get out eee.— have got more people to get out ere-new.— have got more people to get out erg,-know, much- have got more people to get out erg, know, much more than erg, you know, much more than new— erg, you know, much more than rrerv eerer— erg, you know, much more than many other countries who rrererrv— many other countries who rrererrv we— many other countries who probably we number in the rerereee— probably we number in the hundreds in— probably we number in the hundreds in terms of the reererere— hundreds in terms of the nationals that- hundreds in terms of the nationals that we they have. we-ve— nationals that we they have. we-ve eee— nationals that we they have. we-ve eee .— nationals that we they have. we-ve eee . ee— nationals that we they have. we've got , as you— nationals that we they have. we've got , as you just- we've got, as you just mentioned, up to 4000 british

nationals in the country. and i think it is unfair. we nationals in the country. and i think it is unfair . we took a think it is unfair. we took a different approach , not different approach, not necessarily a slower approach, but an approach that was aimed at not putting british nationals under a greater risk, trying to limit the risk that they are facing. of course , the bigger facing. of course, the bigger question, if this war does start raging again, we where are these displaced people going to end up? we know that 16,000 people have crossed the border into egypt. thousands more are making their way to other border crossings, to neighbouring countries and of course, the home secretary has acknowledged this as well. some of those will end up heading into europe and coming to the northwest corner of france with a view to getting on these boats and across the engush on these boats and across the english channel we know this because already with regard to the numbers who crossed the

channel the sudanese are in the top ten of nations who are represented on these small boats. this morning. again, you can see these pictures are from dungeness on the kent coast. another group of people who have been taken off small boats and then put on board the lifeboats and taken to dungeness, brought up the shingle beach there. patrick and this year, people might be interested to know that already just three months really into the year in terms of how we measure these things, 144 south sudanese nationals were on these small boats. so it is absolutely inevitable that we will continue to see sudanese on the boats, but probably in greater numbers if some of those who have left sudan can make their way over to europe and then to north northern france. mark, thank you very , very much. mark whiteley very, very much. mark whiteley our homeland— very, very much. mark whiteley our homeland security- rill rile “.t“ mark whiteley

our homeland security editor, bringing— our homeland security editor, bringing vee— our homeland security editor, bringing you “p— our homeland security editor, bringing you up to date with evervrrrre— bringing you up to date with everything going everything that's been going on in everything that's been going on wrer-— everything that's been going on rrrew- . were— everything that's been going on in-now . well, the- everything that's been going on in now . well, the long in sudan now. well, the long ewerree— in sudan now. well, the long awaited government gambling wrrre— awaited government gambling wrrre reeer— awaited government gambling white paper was— awaited government gambling white paper was outlined by eerere— white paper was outlined by culture secretary lucy frazer in the culture secretary lucy frazer in we reree— culture secretary lucy frazer in we rewee er— culture secretary lucy frazer in the house of commons earlier reeer— the house of commons earlier reeev. se— the house of commons earlier reeev. se rre— the house of commons earlier today. so the proposals on reeererrer— today. so the proposals on regulation will,— today. so the proposals on regulation will, quote, help rereeee— regulation will, quote, help redress the _ regulation will, quote, help redress the power imbalance eerweer— redress the power imbalance between punters— redress the power imbalance between punters and operators wrrre— between punters and operators while preventing— between punters and operators while preventing addiction. and she while preventing addiction. and ere eree— while preventing addiction. and ere eree eeve— while preventing addiction. and she also says that— while preventing addiction. and she also says that the changes wru— she also says that the changes wrrr eerer— she also says that the changes will better protect— she also says that the changes will better protect even those wreere — will better protect even those wreere re — will better protect even those unable to afford— will better protect even those unable to afford small losses. arvrrrre— unable to afford small losses. arvrrrrg re— unable to afford small losses. arvrrrrg re ee— unable to afford small losses. anything to do with gambling is erweve— anything to do with gambling is always controversial because a lot always controversial because a re er— always controversial because a er er reerre— always controversial because a lot of people enjoy it. i think rre— lot of people enjoy it. i think we reeerrrv— lot of people enjoy it. i think we reeerrrv e— lot of people enjoy it. i think it's possibly a little bit like reee— it's possibly a little bit like eeee rer-r— it's possibly a little bit like booze, isn't it?— it's possibly a little bit like booze, isn't it? 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actually, good time? or actually, is it reerre— good time? or actually, is it public_safety?. good time? or actually, is it. public—safety? let's public health and safety? let'si now—larcombe, now speak to justine larcombe, wre-e— now speak to justine larcombe, who's l recovered _ now speak to justine larcombe, who's recovered gambling who's a recovered gambling eeere—er- who's a recovered gambling addict—of the. who's a recovered gambling. addict—of the book addict and author of the book rere— addict and author of the book rerre r— addict and author of the book rerre r reee— addict and author of the book tails i lose. thank you very reer— tails i lose. thank you very erer-erer- tails i lose. thank you very much. _chat to- tails i lose. thank you very much. chat to you. tails i lose. thank you very- much. _chat to you. how much. great to chat to you. how do much. great to chat to you. how ere-reerere— much. great to chat to you. how do-respondlthe- do you respond to the government's approach here,

wrrer— government's approach here, which essentially to which is essentially to introduce— which is essentially to introduce ,— which is essentially to introduce , more introduce, well, more reeererrer.- introduce, well, more- regulation, _controls introduce, well, more- regulation,-controls as regulation, tighter controls as were— regulation, tighter controls as were — regulation, tighter controls as were rre— regulation, tighter controls as well? i'm first— regulation, tighter controls as well? i'm first of— regulation, tighter controls as well? �*7 well? i'm first of all, delighted to hear that there is going to be more control. i think the regulation dating back to 2005, nearly 20 years ago when the last time it was looked at needed reform. and it needs reform because the way that we gamble now is very, very different. everything really now is done on the smartphones and we needed to bring the regulation into the digital age. really . i regulation into the digital age. really. i mean, i'm just having a look at some of the detail on this now and some of the conditions could be applied to even £2 limits on online slot machines. i mean, is this really reeeeerv e— machines. i mean, is this really necessary ? well— machines. i mean, is this really necessary ? well if— machines. i mean, is this really necessary ? well if you - “ft“ i mean, is this really necessary ? well if you if you necessary? well if you if you reek— necessary? well if you if you reek er— necessary? well if you if you look at some— necessary? well if you if you look at some of— necessary? well if you if you look at some of the figures, wrrer— look at some of the figures, wrrer ee— look at some of the figures, which are quite— look at some of the figures, which are quite tragic in the wee— which are quite tragic in the he veere— which are quite tragic in the three years that— which are quite tragic in the three years that it's taken for we— three years that it's taken for we revrew— three years that it's taken for this review, a— three years that it's taken for this review, a thousand people wru— this review, a thousand people wrrr reve— this review, a thousand people will have taken— this review, a thousand people will have taken their own lives eeeewee— will have taken their own lives eeeewee er— will have taken their own lives because of gambling . '“r: because of gambling. and i think wrer— because of gambling. and i think what needs to happen is we need

to see it as a public health issue, allowing people who gamble responsibly and most people do . you're absolutely people do. you're absolutely right. people just have right. most people just have a harmless flutter and it's a bit of there are 2.2% of of fun. but there are 2.2% of all the adults that gamble in the uk, and because it's such a high number of people that do gamble, number, gamble, that's a big number, have problems and their have real problems and their lives are messed up. if you are a problem gambler, you are 25% more likely to take your own life. 10% of every suicide in the uk is gambling related . the uk is gambling related. covid. and the harm that that causes to children and loved ones and family is quite horrific. so i think the concept really the balance needs to be found between allowing those people who want to have a bet and i'm not anti—gambling at all. i lost everything through gambling. could you tell me a bit about that, if you don't mind. but would you mind? would you mind. but would you mind? would vee rrrre— mind. but would you mind? would vee rrrre r. — mind. but would you mind? would vee rrrre r. r— mind. but would you mind? would you mind if. if you're— “r: but would you mind? would you mind if. if you're all right wrrr— you mind if. if you're all right wrer rre— you mind if. if you're all right wrr re rew— you mind if. if you're all right with it? you are— you mind if. if you're all right with it? you are telling me a rrre— with it? you are telling me a rrre rr— with it? you are telling me a little bit about— with it? you are telling me a little bit about where gambling reer— little bit about where gambling reer vee—

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found searching for her fiance, david yattuesday morning. i'll readid on tuesday morning. i'll read rrer— on tuesday morning. i'll read rer-rere- on tuesday morning. i'll read rrer-rrrelvew. | on tuesday morning. i'll read. that-time.you. this that one more time for you. this is that one more time for you. this re re— that one more time for you. this is the breaking— that one more time for you. this is the breaking that has is the breaking news that has rrer— is the breaking news that has rer-rrrewer— is the breaking news that has just-through to- is the breaking news that has just through to us now, just come through to us now, wrer— just come through to us now, which-murder- which is that a murder investigation- which is that a murder investigation has been launched which is that a murder inve the ation has been launched which is that a murder inve the deathias been launched which is that a murder inve the death of been launched which is that a murder inve the death of pregnantiched into the death of pregnant reeerer— into the death of pregnant teacher morrell in teacher morrell struck in ereeeew— teacher morrell struck in glasgow-are . teacher morrell struck in- glasgow-are searching teacher morrell struck in- glaheriv-are searching teacher morrell struck in glaher fiance are searching teacher morrell struck in glaher fiance , are searching teacher morrell struck in glaher fiance , david searching teacher morrell struck in glaher fiance , david yates.1ing for her fiance, david yates. rerere— for her fiance, david yates. morrell's-was- for her fiance, david yates. morrell's was found on morrell's body was found on rweeeev— morrell's body was found on tuesday morning. so that is the reerre— tuesday morning. so that is the reerre ee— tuesday morning. so that is the breaking news for— tuesday morning. so that is the breaking news for you now. rrerr. — breaking news for you now. rrerr. are— breaking news for you now. right. and yeah, just a little rerrrreer— right. and yeah, just a little reminder, as— right. and yeah, just a little reminder, as well as some other eee— reminder, as well as some other eee rer— reminder, as well as some other sad news. i'm sorry,— reminder, as well as some other sad news. i'm sorry, ladies and eerrerrer.— sad news. i'm sorry, ladies and eerrrerrer. r-e— sad news. i'm sorry, ladies and gentlemen, it's non—stop sad rere er— gentlemen, it's non—stop sad news here at the— gentlemen, it's non—stop sad news here at the moment, but reeereerv— news here at the moment, but reeereew-reer- news here at the moment, but legendary host jerry legendary talk show host jerry serreer—erl legendary talk show host jerry. serreer—er rre springer has passed away at the age springer has passed away at the eee er— springer has passed away at the eee er 79.— springer has passed away at the age er ee- rer— springer has passed away at the age of 79. i'm going have age of 79. i'm going to have more reaction— age of 79. i'm going to have more reaction this for you more reaction on this for you very— more reaction on this for you very .ererrv. — more reaction on this for you very, shortly. jerry very, very shortly. jerry springerr — very, very shortly. jerry- springer, _absolute very, very shortly. jerry- spriiand _absolute very, very shortly. jerry- spriiand a_absolute very, very shortly. jerry- spriiand a legend-absolute very, very shortly. jerry spriiand a legend of absolute very, very shortly. jerry spriiand a legend of atgame. icon and a legend of the game. rer— icon and a legend of the game. rer-re— icon and a legend of the game. rer-re rrrer- icon and a legend of the game. but-to finish this. but i'm going to finish this erew— but i'm going to finish this erew-e— but i'm going to finish this erew-e rr— but i'm going to finish this show-a bit-you,- but i'm going to finish this show a bit you, gb but i'm going to finish this- show-a bit-you, gb views show with a bit of you, gb views errrwsrr— show with a bit of you, gb views gbnews.uk.this_ show with a bit of you, gb views gbnews.uk this hour gbnews.uk or this hour of the erew— gbnews.uk or this hour of the erewlerewre— gbnews.uk or this hour of the show,ishould-a- gbnews.uk or this hour of the show, should a lot of show, i should say. and a lot of

eerere— show, i should say. and a lot of emails flooding— show, i should say. and a lot of emails flooding in— show, i should say. and a lot of emails flooding in to topic emails flooding in to a topic rrer— emails flooding in to a topic rer-eere— emails flooding in to a topic that going return to at that we're going to return to at the that we're going to return to at rre-rre— that we're going to return to at rre-rre reer— that we're going to return to at the _the next hour,- that we're going to return to at the the next hour, which the top of the next hour, which is the top of the next hour, which re er— the top of the next hour, which re er rrrerr— the top of the next hour, which is on britain now— the top of the next hour, which is on britain now officially, eeeererre— is on britain now officially, according one is on britain now officially, actheing one is on britain now officially, acrthe least one is on britain now officially, acrthe least racist one is on britain now officially, acrthe least racist countries one is on britain now officially, acrthe least racist countries ine of the least racist countries in re— of the least racist countries in we were. — of the least racist countries in the world. and— of the least racist countries in the world. and i— of the least racist countries in the world. and i did speak to an rrervrewer— the world. and i did speak to an individual on— the world. and i did speak to an individual on this- the world. and i did speak to an individual on this who seemed to not individual on this who seemed to rer—ewew— individual on this who seemed to rer—ewew-rl not believe the study, which i do not believe the study, which i ee—reeeweel do find fascinating because reerre— do find fascinating because reerre ee— do find fascinating because reerre verv— do find fascinating because people are very quick to jump on ere— people are very quick to jump on erer—eeree- other studies that appear to erew— other studies that appear to show-britain- other studies that appear to show britain indeed show that britain is indeed a reree— show that britain is indeed a hotbed _cesspit- show that britain is indeed a hotbed cesspit of racism. hotbed and a cesspit of racism. are— hotbed and a cesspit of racism. are-rwe— hotbed and a cesspit of racism. are-r-ve eer— hotbed and a cesspit of racism. are-r-ve eer er- hotbed and a cesspit of racism. and i've got an email here and look, i've got an email here reer— and look, i've got an email here rrerr reere— and look, i've got an email here from jackie says,— and look, i've got an email here from jackie says, racism in reerre-e— from jackie says, racism in were vrew— from jackie says, racism in jackie's view, has nothing to do wrr—eerrrre- jackie's view, has nothing to do with _coming over. jackie's view, has nothing to do with at coming over jackie's view, has nothing to do with at all. coming over jackie's view, has nothing to do with at all. she coming over jackie's view, has nothing to do with at all. she doesn't] over jackie's view, has nothing to do with at all. she doesn't think here at all. she doesn't think rrer— here at all. she doesn't think rer—rer- here at all. she doesn't think that—but she. that she's a racist, but she rrrrre— that she's a racist, but she thinks-cannot- that she's a racist, but she thinks cannot going that she's a racist, but she- thinks-cannot going on thinks that we cannot going on wrr— thinks that we cannot going on wrr-rever— thinks that we cannot going on with-levellinflux- thinks that we cannot going on with level influx of with this level of influx of reerre. — with this level of influx of reerre-er- with this level of influx of people. an economic people. and it's an economic eerer— people. and it's an economic eereer er— people. and it's an economic aspect of this— people. and it's an economic aspect of this for— people. and it's an economic aspect of this for jackie . just aspect of this for jackie. just ererrer— aspect of this for jackie. just ererrer ere— aspect of this for jackie. just another one as— aspect of this for jackie. just another one as well. for another top another one as well. for another rer eree— another one as well. for another rer story rr— another one as well. for another top story, i'll also— another one as well. for another top story, i'll also be rerwrrrre— top story, i'll also be returning to- top story, i'll also be returning to you at the top of re— returning to you at the top of re reer— returning to you at the top of the next hour,— returning to you at the top of the next hour, which is on wrerrer— the next hour, which is on wrerrer er— the next hour, which is on whether or steve barclay, whether or not steve barclay,| eer—rreeee our health secretary, is indeed a our health secretary, is indeed eeerre— rer- our health secretary, is indeed a_come for rob.| a bully. they've come for rob. are— a bully. they've come for rob. wrere—- a bully. they've come for rob. arrewe— rer- a bully. they've come for rob.- are _ now for barclay? are they coming now for barclay? is-coincidence_ are they coming now for barclay? is-coincidence that- is it a coincidence that rwrrvrre— is it a coincidence that bullying allegations being bullying allegations are being revered— bullying allegations are being levelled_nurses| levelled at him as the nurses erre— levelled at him as the nurses strike_blocked?j levelled at him as the nurses striigoodness blocked? levelled at him as the nurses striigoodness sake, blocked? levelled at him as the nurses striigoodness sake, these ed? levelled at him as the nurses striigoodness sake, these people for goodness sake, these people are for goodness sake, these people rwrrrre— for goodness sake, these people are running the— for goodness sake, these people are running the country, not werrre— are running the country, not werrrre— are running the country, not werrrre re— are running the country, not workiito be .with- are running the country, not workiito be with bunch of going to be left with a bunch of erewreree— going to be left with a bunch of snowflakes-that— going to be left with a bunch of snowflakes-that is- going to be left with a bunch of snowflakes that is from snowflakes and that is from _we— snowflakes and that is from rere-we ee— snowflakes and that is from rain. we go. loads more rain. there we go. loads more eerrrre— rain. there we go. loads more coming—patrickl

coming your way. i'm patrick crrerve— coming your way. i'm patrickl christys—britain's christys on gb news, britain's

channel very i channell very good |crerrer— very good afternoon, everybody . very good afternoon, everybody. it's very good afternoon, everybody. r-e rrer— very good afternoon, everybody. we we eere— very good afternoon, everybody. r-e rwer eere r— very good afternoon, everybody. it's just gone 4 pm. you're wrr— it's just gone 4 pm. you're with patrick— it's just gone 4 pm. you're with patrick christie's on gb rewe. — with patrick christie's on gb rewe. r-ve— with patrick christie's on gb rewe. r-ve eer— with patrick christie's on gb news. i've got loads for you, aerrev. — news. i've got loads for you, rerrev. verv— news. i've got loads for you, ashley. very sad— news. i've got loads for you, ashley. very sad news at the rep.— ashley. very sad news at the rep. jerry— ashley. very sad news at the top. jerry springer has sadly eeeeee—eee- top. jerry springer has sadly. eeeeee—eeelee. passed away at the age of 79. rre— passed away at the age of 79. re rew— passed away at the age of 79. the talk show— passed away at the age of 79. the talk show legend and icon. we the talk show legend and icon. we wrr— the talk show legend and icon. we wrr re— the talk show legend and icon. we will be paying— the talk show legend and icon. we will be paying tribute to him wrr— we will be paying tribute to him wrr-rre— we will be paying tribute to him wrr-rre reer— we will be paying tribute to him with-his best bits- we will be paying tribute to him with his best bits as with some of his best bits as wer— with some of his best bits as wer. r— with some of his best bits as wer. r e— with some of his best bits as well. i mean, he— with some of his best bits as well. i mean, he really changed the well. i mean, he really changed rre-rerr— well. i mean, he really changed the-didn't-other. the game, didn't he, in other eweee-v— the game, didn't he, in other news _yes britain- news as well. yes britain errererrrv— news as well. yes britain errererrrv re— news as well. yes britain apparently is officially now not reeree— apparently is officially now not racist, confirming— apparently is officially now not racist, confirming something i rrrrr—re— racist, confirming something i think—did already. think a lot of us did already new.— think a lot of us did already new—reel think a lot of us did already. rrew.—ree eer think a lot of us did already- rrew.—ree eer we know. but a new study has put us errereer— know. but a new study has put us emerge-reeer— know. but a new study has put us amongst-least racist- amongst the least racist eewrrere— amongst the least racist countries-the- amongst the least racist countries the world. so countries in the world. so rererwrv— countries in the world. so rererwrv we— countries in the world. so hopefully we can all just move on hopefully we can all just move er rrerr — hopefully we can all just move er rrerr rrer. — hopefully we can all just move on from that. now— hopefully we can all just move on from that. now in other news, sreve—wer. — on from that. now in other news, steve _well. .oh, . steve barclay as well. yes. oh, reerr— steve barclay as well. yes. oh, reerr-rew- steve barclay as well. yes. oh, health - now, i he i health secretary now, is he a rwrv— health secretary now, is he a bully because— health secretary now, is he a bully because the civil service erreeree— bully because the civil service erreeree re— bully because the civil service erreeree re re— bully because the civil service appeared to be at— bully because the civil service appeared to be at it again. they eerre—rrev— appeared to be at it again. they eerre-rrev eer- appeared to be at it again. they came they got raab, came for raab, they got raab, rev-re— came for raab, they got raab, rrev-re-eerrrre- came for raab, they got raab, they're coming barclay. came for raab, they got raab, timean, coming barclay. came for raab, they got raab, timean, is coming barclay. came for raab, they got raab, timean, is thisning barclay. came for raab, they got raab, timean, is this just barclay. came for raab, they got raab, timean, is this just the barclay. came for raab, they got raab, timean, is this just the old :lay. i mean, is this just the old snowflakes— i mean, is this just the old snowflakes out— i mean, is this just the old snowflakes out in force again? reeewee— snowflakes out in force again?. reeewee—rrr.

because they disagree with him. cerrereereee— because they disagree with him. coincidence? i— because they disagree with him. coincidence? i think not. but it eerreelrre— coincidence? i think not. but it comes-the same— coincidence? i think not. but it comes the same day that the comes on the same day that the erre— comes on the same day that the nurses strike was— comes on the same day that the nurses strike was legally reeree— nurses strike was legally blocked. we're going nurses strike was legally blocked. we're-going be blocked. we're also going to be eere— blocked. we're also going to be reerre-rr— blocked. we're also going to be reerre-er er— blocked. we're also going to be doing-bit of this- blocked. we're also going to be doing bit of this today doing a little bit of this today as doing a little bit of this today ee—wrl doing a little bit of this today. ee—wr rce as well, aren't we? are our pcs to as well, aren't we? are our pcs rerever-rrrer- as well, aren't we? are our pcs to braverman seems as well, aren't we? are our pcs. to-braverman seems to to pc suella braverman seems to rrrrr— to pc suella braverman seems to rrrrr-eerrrer— to pc suella braverman seems to think political correctness think that political correctness is think that political correctness re—er- think that political correctness re—er rrerri is getting in the way of them errererre— is getting in the way of them enforcing the— is getting in the way of them enforcing the especially enforcing the law, especially eereererv— enforcing the law, especially especially when _ enforcing the law, especially especially when it comes to rxrrerer— especially when it comes to extinction rebellion, just stop oil extinction rebellion, just stop or ere— extinction rebellion, just stop or end eve— extinction rebellion, just stop oil and even even rumblings that the oil and even even rumblings that re eeree— oil and even even rumblings that the police force— oil and even even rumblings that the police force or— oil and even even rumblings that the police force or elements of it the police force or elements of r rrrerr— the police force or elements of it might actually— the police force or elements of it might actually agree with rrer— it might actually agree with that course— it might actually agree with that course and— it might actually agree with that course and that is stopping rrerr — that course and that is stopping rrerr _butl them from preventing it. but rrere— them from preventing it. but were we— them from preventing it. but were we re— them from preventing it. but there we go. and yes, elsewhere as there we go. and yes, elsewhere ee wer. — there we go. and yes, elsewhere ee wer. re— there we go. and yes, elsewhere as well. do they— there we go. and yes, elsewhere as well. do they share our rve— as well. do they share our values now ,— as well. do they share our values now , this is interesting, values now, this is interesting, eereererv— values now, this is interesting, eereererv rr— values now, this is interesting, especially in light of what we're—talkingl especially in light of what- we're_talking about we're going to be talking about eerrer— we're going to be talking about eerrer-wer— we're going to be talking about earlier-well ,— we're going to be talking about earlier well , which we're going to be talking about earlier well, which is earlier on as well, which is ereer— earlier on as well, which is about whether— earlier on as well, which is about whether or not britain is about whether or not britain is e-eewrrrv. — about whether or not britain is a-country. suella- a racist country. suella braverman— a racist country. suella braverman a lot braverman is saying that a lot of braverman is saying that a lot er-eerrrre— braverman is saying that a lot of-coming across- braverman is saying that a lot of coming across the of people coming across the creme— of people coming across the channel—our- of people coming across the. channel—our values channel don't share our values ere— channel don't share our values ere rrer— channel don't share our values and that could— channel don't share our values and that could well end up being and that could well end up being e ereerer— and that could well end up being e ereerer rer— and that could well end up being a problem for. how— and that could well end up being a problem for how do you a problem for us. how do you reer— a problem for us. how do you reer-er— a problem for us. how do you reer-er er— a problem for us. how do you feel-all of that?- feel about all of that? yeah reere— feel about all of that? yeah reeee-erew. - feel about all of that? yeahi loads-show. -tuned feel about all of that? yeah. loads-show.-tuned . loads busy show. stay tuned. wer— loads busy show. stay tuned. wer er— loads busy show. stay tuned. well gb views— loads busy show. stay tuned. well gb views and gbnews.uk. is that well gb views and gbnews.uk. is rrer emer— well gb views and gbnews.uk. is that email address— well gb views and gbnews.uk. is that email address a lot to get veer— that email address a lot to get veer reerr— that email address a lot to get your teeth stuck—

that email address a lot to get your teeth stuck into there. wer— your teeth stuck into there. we-r re— your teeth stuck into there. we'll be talking about britain not we'll be talking about britain rer being— we'll be talking about britain not being racist— we'll be talking about britain not being racist at the top . do not being racist at the top. do you— not being racist at the top. do vee eeree— not being racist at the top. do vee eeree wrr— not being racist at the top. do you agree with that finding or do you agree with that finding or ere—re- do you disagree with it? vaiews@gbnews.uk right now, reeer— vaiews@gbnews.uk right now, reeere—rere- vaiews@gbnews.uk right now, reeere—rere .| though, headlines with holly. rerer— though, headlines with holly. patrick. thank— though, headlines with holly. patrick. thank you. c: patrick. thank you. good ererreer— patrick. thank you. good afternoon to _ patrick. thank you. good afternoon to you. the top story on gb news today, strike action planned by the royal college of nursing for the 2nd of may would be unlawful. a high court judge has ruled today the rcn six month mandate for strike action will have lapsed by tuesday . will have lapsed by tuesday. protests by nurses have been taking place outside the court with signs held up saying silent sing nurses is silencing patients and the ch's general secretary, pat cullen, says the government has lost the trust of nurses and the public. this is the darkest day— nurses and the public. this is the darkest day in— nurses and the public. this is the darkest day in this- a“: rt. this is the darkest day in this dispute so the darkest day in this dispute ee rer. — the darkest day in this dispute ee rer. any— the darkest day in this dispute so far. any government that were— so far. any government that were eree— so far. any government that would drag their our nursing erer— would drag their our nursing staff through— would drag their our nursing staff through the courts us rrev-ve— staff through the courts us rrev-ve wer— staff through the courts us they've won their legal battle reeev. — they've won their legal battle reeev. rer— they've won their legal battle today. but what— they've won their legal battle today. but what this has led to is today. but what this has led to re rrev-ve— today. but what this has led to

is they've lost— today. but what this has led to is they've lost nursing and rrev-ve— is they've lost nursing and rrev-ve reer— is they've lost nursing and they've lost the - is they've lost nursing and they've lost the public. they've rerer— they've lost the public. they've rerer rre— they've lost the public. they've taken the most— they've lost the public. they've taken the most trusted rrereeerer— taken the most trusted profession through the courts by the profession through the courts by rre reeer— profession through the courts by the least trusted— profession through the courts by the least trusted people . well, the least trusted people. well, the least trusted people. well, we rerewr— the least trusted people. well, the labour leader— the least trusted people. well, the labour leader , sir keir the labour leader, sir keir ereerer.— the labour leader, sir keir srerrrer. re— the labour leader, sir keir starmer, is urging the government- starmer, is urging the government to resolve the pay reeere— government to resolve the pay rerere quickly— government to resolve the pay dispute quickly . _ government to resolve the pay dispute quickly . dispute quickly. the nurses eer-e— dispute quickly. the nurses don't want to be on strike. they want a government that's negotiating and to talking them, not taking them to court. i think most people are scratching their head and saying instead of going just get on with going to court, just get on with resolving the underlying issues they've the conditions they've created. the conditions that huge pressure on that have put huge pressure on people because as the economy hasn't worked for over a decade now, many people have had stagnant wages. their living standards have gone down, not up. so the government had bears a heavy responsibility. and i think say, get think most people would say, get on with it, get round the table and resolve these issues . now, and resolve these issues. now, the foreign secretary- now, the foreign secretary says the government's— the foreign secretary says the government's continuing to eeerer— government's continuing to assist british— government's continuing to assist british nationals in reerre— assist british nationals in leaving sudan- assist british nationals in leaving sudan and has urged them to leaving sudan and has urged them re rrere— leaving sudan and has urged them re rrere rrer— leaving sudan and has urged them to make their own— leaving sudan and has urged them to make their own way to the ereer— to make their own way to the ereerr rer— to make their own way to the airport for evacuation as soon as airport for evacuation as soon ee reeerre— airport for evacuation as soon ee reeerre .—

airport for evacuation as soon as possible . british forces are as possible. british forces are reerre— as possible. british forces are reerre re— as possible. british forces are racing to rescue— as possible. british forces are racing to rescue as many people as racing to rescue as many people ee rrev— racing to rescue as many people ee rrev er— racing to rescue as many people as they can before— racing to rescue as many people as they can before the ceasefire re — as they can before the ceasefire comes to an end.— as they can before the ceasefire comes to an end. tonight, more rrer— comes to an end. tonight, more rrer see— comes to an end. tonight, more than 530 british— comes to an end. tonight, more than 530 british citizens have reer— than 530 british citizens have reer rewr— than 530 british citizens have been flown to— than 530 british citizens have been flown to safety as of veerereev— been flown to safety as of yesterday evening , but the yesterday evening, but the eeverrrrerr— yesterday evening, but the government says that number is rere.— government says that number is rerre reeree— government says that number is rising. 16,000 people have fled sweer— rising. 16,000 people have fled sudan across— rising. 16,000 people have fled sudan across the _ rising. 16,000 people have fled sudan across the border into egypt-— sudan across the border into egypt se— sudan across the border into egypt se r..— sudan across the border into egypt. so far, including 14,000 sweereee— egypt. so far, including 14,000 sudanese citizens— egypt. so far, including 14,000 sudanese citizens are speaking in sudanese citizens are speaking rr rre— sudanese citizens are speaking r we reree— sudanese citizens are speaking in the house of— sudanese citizens are speaking in the house of commons today. reree— in the house of commons today. james ereverv— in the house of commons today. james cleverly said— in the house of commons today. james cleverly said the uk was eree— james cleverly said the uk was eree reerre— james cleverly said the uk was also looking into— james cleverly said the uk was also looking into assisting eewrrere— also looking into assisting countries with— also looking into assisting countries with no diplomatic rereeeeer rr— countries with no diplomatic presence in the— countries with no diplomatic presence in the country. for rreee— presence in the country. for rreee er— presence in the country. for those on the— presence in the country. for those on the ground, as you were— those on the ground, as you were ereer— those on the ground, as you would expect ,— those on the ground, as you would expect , we are would expect, we are prioritising- would expect, we are prioritising those in greatest reee— prioritising those in greatest need rrrewer— prioritising those in greatest need through allocating seats reeer— need through allocating seats reeee er— need through allocating seats based on vulnerability , starting based on vulnerability, starting wrr— based on vulnerability, starting with families,— based on vulnerability, starting with families, with children and the with families, with children and re elderly— with families, with children and the elderly, the— with families, with children and the elderly, the disabled or reerre— the elderly, the disabled or reerre wrr— the elderly, the disabled or people with documented medical eererrere. — people with documented medical conditions. we— people with documented medical conditions. we have— people with documented medical conditions. �*vvrt; conditions. we have been notifying british nationals registered with us about the about the evacuation flights , as about the evacuation flights, as well as announcing them through our travel advice and also through all organic social media

networks of british nationals in sudan. foreign networks of british nationals in sudan . foreign secretary james sudan. foreign secretary james creverv— sudan. foreign secretary james cleverly there. _ sudan. foreign secretary james cleverly there. now— :“ foreign secretary james cleverly there. now the government _ cleverly there. now the government has tabled northern rerere-e— government has tabled northern ireland's budget— government has tabled northern ireland's budget for the next rrererer— ireland's budget for the next financial year, _ ireland's budget for the next financial year, and while there is financial year, and while there re err— financial year, and while there re err re— financial year, and while there is still no sitting— financial year, and while there is still no sitting devolved geverrrrerr— is still no sitting devolved eeverrrrerr .— is still no sitting devolved government , westminster has government, westminster has erver— government, westminster has given stormont_ government, westminster has given stormont extra time to remery— given stormont extra time to rerev e— given stormont extra time to rerev e reee — given stormont extra time to repay a £300 million advance. rer-e— repay a £300 million advance. rer-e rere— repay a £300 million advance. rer-e rere vee— repay a £300 million advance. let's take you live— repay a £300 million advance. let's take you live now to reeere— let's take you live now to dougie beattie,- let's take you live now to dougie beattie, who's in belfast for dougie beattie, who's in belfast rer we— dougie beattie, who's in belfast rer rewere— dougie beattie, who's in belfast for us. dougie, how has this reer— for us. dougie, how has this been received— for us. dougie, how has this been received politically ? well been received politically? well reer— been received politically? well real disappointment and concern errereer— real disappointment and concern errereer reeer— real disappointment and concern amongst local politicians . amongst local politicians. the ereer— amongst local politicians. the rreer erere— amongst local politicians. the block grant that— amongst local politicians. the block grant that is— amongst local politicians. the block grant that is given to northern ireland is basically flatlined. it northern ireland is basically flatlined . it stays exactly the flatlined. it stays exactly the same , and half— flatlined. it stays exactly the same , and half of- “tr: it stays exactly the same , and half of that has been same, and half of that has been rereee— same, and half of that has been rereee re— same, and half of that has been handed to health.— same, and half of that has been handed to health. and with the eeer— handed to health. and with the eeer er— handed to health. and with the eeer er rvrre— handed to health. and with the cost of living in— handed to health. and with the cost of living in an inflation erer— cost of living in an inflation erere rrer— cost of living in an inflation crisis that works— cost of living in an inflation crisis that works out at about a rove— crisis that works out at about a row ewr— crisis that works out at about a row ewr rere— crisis that works out at about a 10% cut rate across— crisis that works out at about a 10% cut rate across the board ere— 10% cut rate across the board ere wrr— 10% cut rate across the board ere wrr re— 10% cut rate across the board and with no local— 10% cut rate across the board and with no local government in rerrerr— and with no local government in northern ireland.— and with no local government in northern ireland. chris heaton—harris is now running a ereer— heaton—harris is now running a ereer rrereer— heaton—harris is now running a direct indirect rule— heaton—harris is now running a direct indirect rule government wrr— direct indirect rule government wrr err— direct indirect rule government with civil servants having to rrere— with civil servants having to rrere rreee— with civil servants having to make those very— with civil servants having to make those very hard choices and

rrev— make those very hard choices and rrev wrr— make those very hard choices and rrev wrr re— make those very hard choices and they will be open— make those very hard choices and they will be open to— make those very hard choices and they will be open to judicial reviews . dougie- they will be open to judicial reviews . lg rt; rt; reviews. dougie beattie for the moment, thanks very much indeed . now the government's unveiled the biggest shake up of gambling laws in 15 years. it says it aims to redress the power imbalance between punters and operators. checks to better protect even those unable to afford small losses are among the plans, as well as maximum stakes for online slot machines . culture secretary lucy frazer says it'll also help prevent addiction to gambling . schools addiction to gambling. schools in england are facing disruption today as tens of thousands of teachers have gone on strike. national education union members have walked out over pay year 11 and year 13. classes are being prioritised with exams just weeks away and more strikes have been announced for the summer term after union members rejected the government's pay offer. joint general secretary offer. joint general secretary of the new mary bousted says teachers are experiencing hardship, got teachers who are

skipping meals. we've got teachers not— skipping meals. we've got teachers not heating- “g we've got teachers not heating their homes , teachers not heating their homes . we-ve— teachers not heating their homes . we-ve eer— teachers not heating their homes , we've got teachers taking on eeere— , we've got teachers taking on eeeerer-ere. — , we've got teachers taking on second jobs. when- , we've got teachers taking on second jobs. �*lfvl“t;“ , we've got teachers taking on second jobs. : second jobs. when they already work the most unpaid overtime of all professions. that's the reerrv— all professions. that's the reerrv er— all professions. that's the reality of what— that's the reality of what teachers are reerre— reality of what teachers are reerre ere — reality of what teachers are facing, and that— reality of what teachers are facing, and that is what the eeverrrrerr— facing, and that is what the government has— facing, and that is what the government has to face. that reerrv. — government has to face. that reerrv. r— government has to face. that reerrv. r we— government has to face. that reality. if we want a well—educated nation and if we werr— well—educated nation and if we werr rre— well—educated nation and if we want the education that our errerer— want the education that our children deserve , the aslef children deserve, the aslef wrer— children deserve, the aslef wrrer ree— children deserve, the aslef union has announced its train ervere— union has announced its train ervere wrr— union has announced its train drivers will stage— union has announced its train drivers will stage three new errree— drivers will stage three new errrree rr— drivers will stage three new strikes in their— drivers will stage three new strikes in their long running reewre— strikes in their long running ererwre ve— strikes in their long running dispute over pay. two of the walkouts will happen in may and one will take place on the 3rd of june, the day of the fa cup final. it's after the union rejected a 4% pay offer . now the rejected a 4% pay offer. now the sad news we've received within the last half an hour here at gb news is the talk show host, jerry springer has died at the age of 79. the british american passed away peacefully, we're told, at his home in chicago. he was a prominent figure on american tv networks for nearly three decades. best known for

showcasing and analysing problems faced by some dysfunctional families . on his dysfunctional families. on his show, jerry springer has died at the age of 79, just one little more bit of breaking news to bnng more bit of breaking news to bring you here from gb news centre. a murder investigation , centre. a murder investigation, we understand, has been launched into the death of the pregnant teacher. morale struck in glasgow. police in glasgow are now searching for her fiance , now searching for her fiance, david yates. we'll keep you updated that story when we updated on that story when we have more information. that's all me. i'm back in an all from me. i'm back in half an hour. houn welcome back, everybody. so we'll bring you more on- so we'll bring you more on that reeerer— we'll bring you more on that reeerer re— we'll bring you more on that reaction to the— we'll bring you more on that reaction to the sad news about jerry— reaction to the sad news about jerry serreere— reaction to the sad news about jerry springer's sad passing verv— jerry springer's sad passing verv. verv— jerry springer's sad passing very, very shortly. but we're going— very, very shortly. but we're going rr— very, very shortly. but we're going rr wrr— very, very shortly. but we're going in with our top story at rre— going in with our top story at we rrerrerr— going in with our top story at the moment. and as a recent erwev— the moment. and as a recent erwev ree— the moment. and as a recent study has undermined all the rer— study has undermined all the rerr rrer— study has undermined all the talk that racism _ study has undermined all the talk that racism is rampant rre—

talk that racism is rampant across the kingdom. in across the united kingdom. in reee— across the united kingdom. in reeelererre— across the united kingdom. in fact,.claims that— across the united kingdom. in fact, claims that live in fact, it claims that we live in er— fact, it claims that we live in er rre— fact, it claims that we live in one of the least— fact, it claims that we live in one of the least racist countries— one of the least racist countries in- one of the least racist countries in the world. a survey of countries in the world. a survey er—rewre— countries in the world. a survey er—rewre rrer- countries in the world. a surveyi of_found that-2% of 24 nations found that just 2% of 24 nations found that just 2% er-wewre— of 24 nations found that just 2% er-wewre rer— of 24 nations found that just 2% of-would not want- of 24 nations found that just 2% of would not want to have of brits would not want to have someone of different race as someone of a different race as rrer— someone of a different race as rer—are- someone of a different race as their—and when- someone of a different race as their—and when it. their neighbour. and when it re— their neighbour. and when it comes to living— their neighbour. and when it comes to living alongside an rrrrrererr— comes to living alongside an rrrrrererr er— comes to living alongside an immigrant or foreign the immigrant or foreign worker, the rewre— immigrant or foreign worker, the rewre re— immigrant or foreign worker, the figure re errv— immigrant or foreign worker, the figure re errv 5.— immigrant or foreign worker, the figure is only 5. now, in both eereeeree.— figure is only 5. now, in both categories, the— figure is only 5. now, in both categories, the uk is less reerer— categories, the uk is less racist than— categories, the uk is less racist than the- categories, the uk is less racist than the united states, ree— racist than the united states, re ere— racist than the united states, france and italy— racist than the united states, france and italy and in fact reere— france and italy and in fact reeee er— france and italy and in fact loads of other— france and italy and in fact loads of other countries, which i loads of other countries, which r-rerre— loads of other countries, which r-rerre er— loads of other countries, which i-rattle off for— loads of other countries, which i rattle off for very, i will rattle off for you very, verv— i will rattle off for you very, verv erew— i will rattle off for you very, very shortly. joined now very shortly. but i'm joined now by very shortly. but i'm joined now rv—werrer- very shortly. but i'm joined now rv—werrer ere- by senior social worker and eerrrer— by senior social worker and political-joseph- by senior social worker and political joseph david. political activist joseph david. rrerr— political activist joseph david. rrerrvew— political activist joseph david. rrerr vew verv— political activist joseph david. thank you very, very much for joining— thank you very, very much for joining rre— thank you very, very much for joining me. now,— thank you very, very much for joining me. now, look, how do you— joining me. now, look, how do vew reerere— joining me. now, look, how do vew reerere re— joining me. now, look, how do you respond to the results of rre— you respond to the results of re ewrvev— you respond to the results of this survey that— you respond to the results of this survey that britain now ereererrrv— this survey that britain now ereererrrv ree— this survey that britain now apparently is? well officially reerv— apparently is? well officially reerv ere— apparently is? well officially reerrv er— apparently is? well officially really one of least racist really one of the least racist eewrreer— really one of the least racist countries in— really one of the least racist countries in the— really one of the least racist countries in the world and well , i countries in the world and well . r rrrrr— countries in the world and well . r rrrrr wrer— countries in the world and well , i think what this- countries in the world and well , i think what this shows us is rrer— , i think what this shows us is we we— , i think what this shows us is we we r— , i think what this shows us is that we in great— , i think what this shows us is that we in great britain have rwrr— that we in great britain have rwrr e— that we in great britain have built a pluralist— that we in great britain have built a pluralist multi racial rerer— built a pluralist multi racial rerer re— built a pluralist multi racial nation to be— built a pluralist multi racial nation to be proud of . nation to be proud of. i think erre— nation to be proud of. i think err rwew— nation to be proud of. i think this study was welcome reading because it's very much in line with the experiences that i've had on the street as as a member of a minority community. motty

and it's the fact that race tends not to come into it for most people. yeah , exactly. do most people. yeah, exactly. do you think this undermines people who appear to be intent on seeing racism ? absolutely seeing racism? absolutely everywhere, even unconsciously ? everywhere, even unconsciously? yes . but what everywhere, even unconsciously? yes. but what i everywhere, even unconsciously? yes . but what i would say is yes. but what i would say is rrer— yes. but what i would say is we r— yes. but what i would say is we r vew— yes. but what i would say is that if you really— yes. but what i would say is that if you really are intent on rrere— that if you really are intent on rrerre r— that if you really are intent on rrerre r r— that if you really are intent on finding it, if you- that if you really are intent on finding it, if you look hard erewer— finding it, if you look hard erewer .— finding it, if you look hard enough . vew— finding it, if you look hard enough , you will find it. and enough, you will find it. and rrere— enough, you will find it. and rrere ee— enough, you will find it. and there are tools— enough, you will find it. and there are tools such as intersectional- there are tools such as intersectional motty that will rere— intersectional motty that will help vew — intersectional motty that will help vew re — intersectional motty that will help you to find— intersectional motty that will help you to find vulnerability ere— help you to find vulnerability ere ereerrv— help you to find vulnerability and bigotry wherever you look. so and bigotry wherever you look. se wrrer— and bigotry wherever you look. so whilst this- and bigotry wherever you look. so whilst this is- and bigotry wherever you look. so whilst this is ,— and bigotry wherever you look. so whilst this is , as i said, so whilst this is, as i said, verv— so whilst this is, as i said, very welcome— so whilst this is, as i said, very welcome reading , the people very welcome reading, the people wre— very welcome reading, the people wre reve— very welcome reading, the people wre reve e— very welcome reading, the people who have a self— very welcome reading, the people who have a self deprecating errwee— who have a self deprecating attitude towards the united rrreeerr— attitude towards the united kingdom ere— attitude towards the united kingdom and towards race reerere.— kingdom and towards race relations, i— kingdom and towards race relations, i fear- kingdom and towards race relations, i fear maybe won't r— relations, i fear maybe won't r . — relations, i fear maybe won't see it . indeed,— relations, i fear maybe won't see it. indeed, i'm- relations, i fear maybe won't see it . 3: relations, i fear maybe won't see it . rgrttr “g see it. indeed, i'm just going to rattle off some of the countries who and there's a lot of them who scored more highly in the old racism charts than than we did. so iran, russia , than we did. so iran, russia, japan, china, greece, morocco . japan, china, greece, morocco. south korea. egypt. poland italy. the philippines. indonesia. mexico spain. nigeria. france. australia

canada. the united states and norway. and people were asked whether or not they would like to live next door to an immigrant or foreign worker or people a different race. and people of a different race. and on of those, britain did on both of those, britain did phenomenally well. and i just wonder why why, you think that is? because you would be forgiven . i think if you open forgiven. i think if you open the pages of the guardian on a daily basis, for example, to assume that you could almost flip that on its head . flip that list on its head. indeed , britain is a country indeed, britain is a country wrere— indeed, britain is a country where our minority inclusion and eerer— where our minority inclusion and social integration— where our minority inclusion and social integration is done to an ererr— social integration is done to an exrerr rrer— social integration is done to an exrerr we r— social integration is done to an extent that i think— social integration is done to an extent that i think other eewrreer— extent that i think other countries could really learn reer.— countries could really learn rrerr. are— countries could really learn from. and it's— countries could really learn from. and it's the fact that eerrereev— from. and it's the fact that somebody from _ from. and it's the fact that somebody from a minority eerrrrwrrv— somebody from a minority community motty can achieve high erre— community motty can achieve high office irrespective— community motty can achieve high office irrespective of their race or religion- office irrespective of their race or religion that means that in race or religion that means that r ewrre— race or religion that means that re were re— race or religion that means that in public life people are interacting— in public life people are interacting with people from all races every single— interacting with people from all races every single day . and this races every single day. and this is races every single day. and this re errreer— races every single day. and this is almost cynical. _ races every single day. and this is almost cynical. people rrrereer—

is almost cynical. people interact more— is almost cynical. people interact more with those from rrrrerrv— interact more with those from minority communities every day, and minority communities every day, ere rre— minority communities every day, and this means— minority communities every day, and this means that they're more erre— and this means that they're more erre re— and this means that they're more able to welcome— and this means that they're more able to welcome them into their eerrrrwrrreer — able to welcome them into their communities. and— able to welcome them into their communities. and it's the fact rrer— communities. and it's the fact we rrrerr— communities. and it's the fact that britain is— communities. and it's the fact that britain is truly a welcoming,- that britain is truly a welcoming, welcoming, pluralist eewrrrv.— welcoming, welcoming, pluralist eewrrrv. rrer— welcoming, welcoming, pluralist country. that means that people are country. that means that people erre— country. that means that people are more able to— country. that means that people are more able to welcome those wrr— are more able to welcome those with differences— are more able to welcome those with differences into our eerere— with differences into our society. and _ with differences into our society. and it- with differences into our society. and it flies in the reee— society. and it flies in the fee er— society. and it flies in the fee er e— society. and it flies in the face of a un _ society. and it flies in the face of a un working group that ererree— face of a un working group that ererree rrer— face of a un working group that claimed that ethnic minorities in claimed that ethnic minorities rr rrrerr— claimed that ethnic minorities in britain are— claimed that ethnic minorities in britain are living in fear as a in britain are living in fear as e reewr— in britain are living in fear as e reewr er— in britain are living in fear as a result of systemic racism. r-e— a result of systemic racism. r-e rer— a result of systemic racism. it's not worth _ a result of systemic racism. it's not worth systemic,- a result of systemic racism. it's not worth systemic, isn't it? i think , and that uk is not it? i think, and that uk is not close to being a racially just society. i do have ask you, society. i do have to ask you, though, in light the though, i mean, in light of the things that you've just said there, which portrays along with things that you've just said therr study, h portrays along with things that you've just said therr study, that rtrays along with things that you've just said therr study, that rtrays a is1g with this study, that britain is indeed and frankly, indeed a welcoming and frankly, non , we are non racist country, we are seeing issues of anti—semitism raise its head, aren't we? and diane abbott is notable diane abbott is a notable example recently. i mean, how do you how do you maybe marry up ideas of anti—semitism potentially being rife in the country with also this study and your views on that? well i think we do need to differentiate

between systemic racism and racist opinions that are held by individuals and i think it's fairly obvious that we live in a country where both members of the public and those within institutions will do almost anything so as not to be seen as racist. they'll do almost ervrrrre— racist. they'll do almost ervrrrre re— racist. they'll do almost anything to be- ”rtlrt. they'll do almost anything to be inclusive. ”clrt. they'll do almost anything to be inclusive. so i rrrrr— anything to be inclusive. so i think claims— anything to be inclusive. so i think claims of— anything to be inclusive. so i think claims of systemic racism are think claims of systemic racism rrererrv— think claims of systemic racism are probably quite— think claims of systemic racism are probably quite laughable, reee— are probably quite laughable, whereas we need to be aware of the whereas we need to be aware of re reer— whereas we need to be aware of re reer rrer— whereas we need to be aware of the fact that racism _ whereas we need to be aware of the fact that racism exists wrrrr— the fact that racism exists within communities in the eewrrrv— within communities in the eewrrrv ere— within communities in the country and not be naive to it, wrer— country and not be naive to it, wrrr re— country and not be naive to it, wrrr re wrv— country and not be naive to it, wrrr re wrv r— country and not be naive to it, which is why i would say that reerre— which is why i would say that reerre erer-r— which is why i would say that people aren't living in fear. reerre— people aren't living in fear. reerre ee— people aren't living in fear. people are more- people aren't living in fear. people are more vigilant and rrer— people are more vigilant and we rrer— people are more vigilant and just just finally— people are more vigilant and just just finally with you, if rrere— just just finally with you, if rrerle er— just just finally with you, if that's all right. thr that's all right. do you think the uncomfortable truth is that potentially some people have maybe a bit of a chip on their shoulder or maybe are very, very keen , too keen to point out keen, too keen to point out things that they see as just perceived racism ? yeah us i was

perceived racism? yeah us i was talking perceived racism? yeah us i was rerrre rerere— perceived racism? yeah us i was talking before about— talking before about a self—deprecating culture that we reve — self—deprecating culture that we reve rr— self—deprecating culture that we reve r we — self—deprecating culture that we have in the country , and it's have in the country, and it's errreer— have in the country, and it's errreer ee— have in the country, and it's errreer ee r— have in the country, and it's almost as if you— have in the country, and it's almost as if you don't try and rre— almost as if you don't try and rre er— almost as if you don't try and rre er eree— almost as if you don't try and find an area of— almost as if you don't try and find an area of bigotry in the eewrrrv— find an area of bigotry in the eewrrrv .— find an area of bigotry in the eewrrrv . reerre— find an area of bigotry in the country , people will look at you country, people will look at you as country, people will look at you ee r— country, people will look at you ee r vew— country, people will look at you ee r vew reve— country, people will look at you as if you have an— country, people will look at you as if you have an ulterior rrerve— as if you have an ulterior rrerve .— as if you have an ulterior motive . whereas in actual fact, motive. whereas in actual fact, if motive. whereas in actual fact, r vew— motive. whereas in actual fact, r vew rew— motive. whereas in actual fact, r vew rerr re— motive. whereas in actual fact, if you talk to people on the erreee — if you talk to people on the street, there _ if you talk to people on the street, there experiences are verv— street, there experiences are very different— street, there experiences are very different . _ street, there experiences are very different . street, there experiences are very different. joseph, thank you very much. great to chat joseph david there senior social worker and political activist now yes that big news that broke whilst we were live on air just a few moments ago. jerry spnngen a few moments ago. jerry springer, the tv host who changed talk show forever, springer, the tv host who chaidied talk show forever, springer, the tv host who chaidied at talk show forever, springer, the tv host who chaidied at the k show forever, springer, the tv host who chaidied at the age ow forever, springer, the tv host who chaidied at the age of forever, springer, the tv host who chaidied at the age of 79.3ver, springer, the tv host who chaidied at the age of 79. so ', has died at the age of 79. so his show, which ran for 27 seasons, was pioneered , inviting seasons, was pioneered, inviting everyday people on as guests and confronting them with people that they'd betrayed, most often their own partners . for example, their own partners. for example, television was his second career, though he was previously a politician and had served as mayor of cincinnati . and mayor of cincinnati. and although he was no fan of another reality tv star turned politician , i'd like to formally

politician, i'd like to formally apologise. i've ruined the ewrwre.— apologise. i've ruined the ewrwre. re— apologise. i've ruined the culture. no my— g i've ruined the culture. no my show is a circus. i culture. no my show is a circus. r reee— culture. no my show is a circus. r rrere— culture. no my show is a circus. i mean, that's all— culture. no my show is a circus. i mean, that's all it— culture. no my show is a circus. i mean, that's all it is. it's erwrre— i mean, that's all it is. it's erwrre. ewr— i mean, that's all it is. it's stupid. but it's— i mean, that's all it is. it's stupid. but it's been around for 27 stupid. but it's been around for er veere— stupid. but it's been around for er veere rew— stupid. but it's been around for er veere .— stupid. but it's been around for 27 years now , and— stupid. but it's been around for 27 years now , and so i never 27 years now, and so i never vrew— 27 years now, and so i never r— 27 years now, and so i never r ee— 27 years now, and so i never view it as anything more than an ewrreeeewe— view it as anything more than an ewrreeeewe r— view it as anything more than an outrageous i mean,— view it as anything more than an outrageous i mean, a show about ewrreeeewe— outrageous i mean, a show about outrageous behaviour . but we outrageous behaviour. but we eer-r— outrageous behaviour. but we eer-r eeer— outrageous behaviour. but we don't deal with— outrageous behaviour. but we don't deal with serious issues . don't deal with serious issues. in don't deal with serious issues. rr errer— don't deal with serious issues. in other words,— don't deal with serious issues. in other words, it's about reerre.— in other words, it's about dating. people- in other words, it's about dating. people get angry , but dating. people get angry, but tomorrow they're dating someone eree.— tomorrow they're dating someone eree. vew— tomorrow they're dating someone eree. vew rrewe— tomorrow they're dating someone else, you know? and trump is ereerer— else, you know? and trump is ereereerr .— else, you know? and trump is president . he's,— else, you know? and trump is president . he's, you know, he's president. he's, you know, he's rre— president. he's, you know, he's rre ereerer.— president. he's, you know, he's the president. so— president. he's, you know, he's the president. so there you go. ewr— the president. so there you go. rwr r— the president. so there you go. rwr r eve— the president. so there you go. but i never thought that someone on but i never thought that someone er my— but i never thought that someone er rrv erew— but i never thought that someone on my show should— but i never thought that someone on my show should be a president . se— on my show should be a president . se rr— on my show should be a president . se rr errer— on my show should be a president . so in other words,— on my show should be a president . so in other words, they should be we— . so in other words, they should be two separate— . so in other words, they should be two separate things . and but be two separate things. and but you be two separate things. and but vew new.— be two separate things. and but vew rrew. rer— be two separate things. and but you know, for people that are unhappy— you know, for people that are unhappy ,— you know, for people that are unhappy , you— you know, for people that are unhappy , you know, and i'm look, unhappy, you know, and i'm look, rele— unhappy, you know, and i'm look, rele rele— unhappy, you know, and i'm look, rele rele ewr— unhappy, you know, and i'm look, he's he's our president, so i'll ererr— he's he's our president, so i'll ererr rrr — he's he's our president, so i'll grant him that— he's he's our president, so i'll grant him that respect. but it's not someone i— grant him that respect. but it's not someone i wanted to be ereereerr. — not someone i wanted to be ereereerr. r— not someone i wanted to be president. i don't like his rereree— president. i don't like his rereree .— president. i don't like his

policies . and— president. i don't like his policies . and so to the rest of policies. and so to the rest of re— policies. and so to the rest of we were— policies. and so to the rest of we were r— policies. and so to the rest of the world, i simply say just reerere— the world, i simply say just pretend we're— the world, i simply say just pretend we're on a four year weer. — pretend we're on a four year weer. se— pretend we're on a four year break. so it's— pretend we're on a four year break. so it's like when you had a break. so it's like when you had e ewrerrwre— break. so it's like when you had a substitute teacher , so, you a substitute teacher, so, you new.— a substitute teacher, so, you rrew. 90— a substitute teacher, so, you rrew. 90 wre— a substitute teacher, so, you know, go wild for four years, ewr— know, go wild for four years, rwr wer— know, go wild for four years, but we'll fix— know, go wild for four years, but we'll fix it— know, go wild for four years, but we'll fix it .— know, go wild for four years, but we'll fix it. i- know, go wild for four years, but we'll fix it. i mean , could but we'll fix it. i mean, could evee— but we'll fix it. i mean, could evee eree— but we'll fix it. i mean, could anyone else see— but we'll fix it. i mean, could anyone else see the slight irony rrere— anyone else see the slight irony rrere er— anyone else see the slight irony rrere er e— anyone else see the slight irony there of a man— anyone else see the slight irony there of a man getting on his rrer— there of a man getting on his high reree— there of a man getting on his high horse about— there of a man getting on his high horse about values? et eeere-e— high horse about values? et eeeree rre— high horse about values? et cetera. as much— high horse about values? et cetera. as much of- high horse about values? et cetera. as much of a- high horse about values? et cetera. as much of a legend as jerry springer is, whilst also simultaneously people simultaneously inviting people on to fight each on their show to fight each other and expose of the other and expose some of the most of their most personal aspects of their lives front crowd and an lives in front of a crowd and an audience of millions. there audience of millions. but there we now is we go. joining me now is entertainment correspondent we go. joining me now is entertairtwomey. respondent we go. joining me now is entertairtwomey. rebecca nt we go. joining me now is entertairtwomey. rebecca look, rebecca twomey. rebecca look, jerry springer albie absolutely changed the game, didn't he just unbelievable. the things i didn't think that tv would ever really be like that. and quite arguably it shouldn't be going forward . but i mean, it was forward. but i mean, it was absolute out and out entertainment, wasn't it ? oh, entertainment, wasn't it? oh, what a shame that we've- c 7 oh, what a shame that we've lost ererrer— what a shame that we've lost ererrer ereer— what a shame that we've lost another great entertainment star this another great entertainment star rrre weer— another great entertainment star this week because _ another great entertainment star this week because he really did

reeerre— this week because he really did redefine reality— this week because he really did redefine reality tv. t“ this week because he really did redefine reality tv. “ redefine reality tv. this was reer— redefine reality tv. this was reer rr— redefine reality tv. this was back in the 90 and the early noughfies back in the 90 and the early noughties. this was when we erer-r— noughties. this was when we erer-r reve— noughties. this was when we didn't have that— g this was when we didn't have that much sort of as rrerv— didn't have that much sort of as rrerv eerere— didn't have that much sort of as rrerv errere ee— didn't have that much sort of as many options as we do now for re — many options as we do now for re se— many options as we do now for re se re— many options as we do now for tv. so he really— many options as we do now for tv. so he really was a massive erer.— tv. so he really was a massive erer. r— tv. so he really was a massive erer. r we— tv. so he really was a massive star. it was-the- tv. so he really was a massive star. it was the dawn of star. it was also the dawn of reerrv— star. it was also the dawn of reerrv rw— star. it was also the dawn of reerrv rv. — star. it was also the dawn of reality tv. and,— star. it was also the dawn of reality tv. “r: star. it was also the dawn of reality tv. ' “r: star. it was also the dawn of reality tv. “r: rt;rrt;”«r reality tv. and, you know, every day people, civilians actually getting their 15 minutes of fame. actually provide fame. he did actually provide a platform obviously we see platform which obviously we see rolled out now. and you know, all rolled out now. and you know, err rre— rolled out now. and you know, err rre rere— rolled out now. and you know, all the time with- : and you know, all the time with reality tv . all the time with reality tv. ewr— all the time with reality tv. rwr ere— all the time with reality tv. rwr er— all the time with reality tv. but one of the— all the time with reality tv. but one of the things that jerry serreer— but one of the things that jerry serreer-rrer— but one of the things that jerry springer-that he- but one of the things that jerry springer that he did springer did is that he did eerere— springer did is that he did actually,_wasl actually, while there was a rerrerrrre.— actually, while there was a pantomime,-his| actually, while there was a- pantomime,-his show pantomime, he called his show reeerrerr— pantomime, he called his show escapism entertainment . he was escapism entertainment. he was wreer erv— escapism entertainment. he was never under any illusion of what the never under any illusion of what we erew— never under any illusion of what we erew — never under any illusion of what the show was. but— never under any illusion of what the show was. but actually , deep the show was. but actually, deep eevr.— the show was. but actually, deep down, ee— the show was. but actually, deep down, as a former— the show was. but actually, deep down, as a former politician, he did down, as a former politician, he ere eerwerv— down, as a former politician, he did actually-about- down, as a former politician, he did actually about people. did actually care about people. yes r— did actually care about people. vee . rrere— did actually care about people. yes , there was— did actually care about people. yes , there was the— did actually care about people. /rts yes, there was the spectacles and the chance of go jerry, which we'll all remember. but really, essentially his- t“ tt but really, essentially his final rrewerr— really, essentially his final rrewgrr er— really, essentially his final thought at the— really, essentially his final thought at the end of each show .lrree— thought at the end of each show .lrreelerve— thought at the end of each show , .tried i give people - thought at the end of each show , tried give people some , he tried to give people some eer— , he tried to give people some eerr er— , he tried to give people some eerr er rerer— , he tried to give people some sort of moral lesson. i know we er— sort of moral lesson. i know we err-r— sort of moral lesson. i know we can all it was a bit tongue can all say it was a bit tongue in cheek, but actually, deep down he care and he did down he did care and he did provide platform for people down he did care and he did prov didn'tylatform for people down he did care and he did prov didn't always for people down he did care and he did prov didn't always necessarily that didn't always necessarily air their grievances. but i mean, some them were

mean, some of them were ludicrous ridiculous. ludicrous and ridiculous. i mean, had to hire security mean, you had to hire a security guard for shows . and that's mean, you had to hire a security guard we shows . and that's mean, you had to hire a security guard we see, hows . and that's mean, you had to hire a security guard we see, you; . and that's mean, you had to hire a security guard we see, you know, that's mean, you had to hire a security guard we see, you know, the t's where we see, you know, the likes axed jeremy likes of the now axed jeremy kyle show as well. you know, jeremy springer did really sort of start things off in this genre and really , you know, back genre and really, you know, back in the day there were more viewers jerry springer than viewers of jerry springer than oprah winfrey. and obviously, that hugely successful in the that is hugely successful in the us and without us. and it wasn't without controversy, though , that show. controversy, though, that show. no, absolutely . i mean, i'm no, no, absolutely. i mean, i'm reerre— no, no, absolutely. i mean, i'm reerre rere— no, no, absolutely. i mean, i'm reading here-one- no, no, absolutely. i mean, i'm reading here _one point. reading here that at one point tv reading here that at one point rv ewree— reading here that at one point tv guide ranked— reading here that at one point tv guide ranked it number one on a tv guide ranked it number one on e rer— tv guide ranked it number one on e rer er— tv guide ranked it number one on e rer er werer— tv guide ranked it number one on a list of worst shows— tv guide ranked it number one on a list of worst shows in the rrererv— a list of worst shows in the rrererv er— a list of worst shows in the history of television. but in a way,— history of television. but in a way r— history of television. but in a wev. r rrrrr— history of television. but in a way, i think that's a good thing reewee— way, i think that's a good thing reewee rrev— way, i think that's a good thing because they were _ way, i think that's a good thing because they were probably eerrre— because they were probably getting-bign- because they were probably getting high horse getting on their high horse erewr— getting on their high horse erewr r— getting on their high horse about it being— getting on their high horse about it being trashy, which it wee-wrer— about it being trashy, which it. was.-what-ratings was. but what matters? ratings are— was. but what matters? ratings and—absolutely. and it was getting absolutely reere— and it was getting absolutely reeee er— and it was getting absolutely loads of them,— and it was getting absolutely loads of them, millions of them . er— loads of them, millions of them , some of some— loads of them, millions of them , some of some of— loads of them, millions of them , some of some of the content . i , some of some of the content. i eerwerv— , some of some of the content. i eerwerv eer-r— , some of some of the content. i eerwerv eer-r r— , some of some of the content. i actually can't i can't— , some of some of the content. i actually can't i can't repeat, ervrewerv.— actually can't i can't repeat, obviously, but— actually can't i can't repeat, obviously, but things about reerre— obviously, but things about reerre eerere— obviously, but things about people getting into relationships, even with their ererree— relationships, even with their own siblings at— relationships, even with their own siblings at one point, i'm rererrreerre— own siblings at one point, i'm paraphrasing massively here reewee— paraphrasing massively here because the— paraphrasing massively here because the titles of jerry serreer— because the titles of jerry springer shows are not fit for rreeeeeer— springer shows are not fit for

broadcast hooking up with my rrererrer— broadcast hooking up with my rrererrer re— broadcast hooking up with my therapist is one— broadcast hooking up with my therapist is one that i can just erewr— therapist is one that i can just erewr ereer— therapist is one that i can just about repeat here, which is rre— about repeat here, which is fire reee— about repeat here, which is fine. 4000 broadcast episodes . fine. 4000 broadcast episodes. are— fine. 4000 broadcast episodes. are r— fine. 4000 broadcast episodes. are r reere— fine. 4000 broadcast episodes. and i mean, he— fine. 4000 broadcast episodes. and i mean, he is— fine. 4000 broadcast episodes. and i mean, he is just the eerrrrer— and i mean, he is just the definition really of an international household name, rer-r— international household name, rer-r ree— international household name, isn't he? yeah.— international household name, isn't he? yeah. you know , he was isn't he? yeah. you know, he was a isn't he? yeah. you know, he was e rwee— isn't he? yeah. you know, he was e rwge eweeeee— isn't he? yeah. you know, he was a huge success and— isn't he? yeah. you know, he was a huge success and there's rerrrre— a huge success and there's nothing wrong.— a huge success and there's nothing wrong. - a huge success and there's nothing wrong. rt; t: c nothing wrong. he called it escapism, entertainment. and like i think i always say that entertainment does have that purpose of escapism. know, purpose of escapism. you know, the problem with with tv is we're very judgemental. but really, we're sitting really, when we're sitting on our worrying about, you our sofas worrying about, you know, prices and everything know, fuel prices and everything else, the kind of negativity else, all the kind of negativity that's cost of living that's going on, cost of living crisis, you to crisis, sometimes you want to turn and think, well, turn the tv and think, well, actually it a lot actually someone's got it a lot worse have. this was worse than i have. and this was really jerry springer show really what jerry springer show did. someone going did. when you see someone going through you know, thank goodness, thank you know, thank the lord that i'm actually in their position. and what their position. and that's what actually good. actually makes people feel good. i know we like to be very judgemental certain judgemental of certain demographics, but this was a show loved show that actually people loved . this . they absolutely adored this show . and like said, there show. and like i said, there wasn't choice. so it was wasn't as much choice. so it was hugely popular. it was actually at some banned in the uk at some point banned in the uk from the times that school

from from the times that school children watch it because of the themes. you know, that was themes. and, you know, that was quite you quite controversial. if you think what's available on think now what's available on instagram and the mad kind of you know self—proclaimed therapist instagram giving therapist on instagram giving advice when actually you have got someone that has had life experience, that was a politician does about politician that does care about people i think people giving advice. i think actually it's quite innocent now , compare to what , when you compare it to what we've today 100, 100, and we've got today, 100, 100, and actually so many people in tv owe their careers to jerry spnngen owe their careers to jerry springer. he was an absolute rrerrrezer. — springer. he was an absolute trailblazer. i'm— springer. he was an absolute trailblazer. i'm not— “grt” he was an absolute trailblazer. i'm not trying to reee— trailblazer. i'm not trying to ereee rre— trailblazer. i'm not trying to dress this up— trailblazer. i'm not trying to dress this up as— trailblazer. i'm not trying to dress this up as something that it dress this up as something that r eer-r — dress this up as something that r eer-r r— dress this up as something that it wasn't. it was— dress this up as something that it wasn't. it was unashamedly you— it wasn't. it was unashamedly vew—eeeerrerrl it wasn't. it was unashamedly. you—escapism there. you use the word escapism there. veer. —rreer- you use the word escapism there. yeah. _trash will- yeah. or i mean, trash will be ererrer— yeah. or i mean, trash will be ererrer-rer— yeah. or i mean, trash will be another-for it.- yeah. or i mean, trash will be another for it. that another word for it. but that was brilliant. _ another word for it. but that was brilliant. i— another word for it. but that was brilliant. i love a bit of reer— was brilliant. i love a bit of reer-rew— was brilliant. i love a bit of trash-now and- was brilliant. i love a bit of trash now and again. i trash every now and again. i rrrrr— trash every now and again. i rrrrr rle— trash every now and again. i think it's fantastic and think it's fantastic stuff. and so think it's fantastic stuff. and ee rrerv— think it's fantastic stuff. and ee rrerv reerre— think it's fantastic stuff. and so many people their careers think it's fantastic stuff. and so him |y people their careers think it's fantastic stuff. and so him because their careers think it's fantastic stuff. and so him because they their careers think it's fantastic stuff. and so him because they kind careers think it's fantastic stuff. and so him because they kind ofrreers to him because they kind of rrrreree— to him because they kind of mirrored _former. to him because they kind of- mirrored _former toned mirrored a bit of a former toned it mirrored a bit of a former toned r-e— mirrored a bit of a former toned r-e rrre— mirrored a bit of a former toned it-a little bit— mirrored a bit of a former toned it-a little bit or- mirrored a bit of a former toned it a little bit or some it down a little bit or in some erer-r— it down a little bit or in some erer-r .— it down a little bit or in some cases didn't . and— it down a little bit or in some cases didn't . and i've got to be cases didn't. and i've got to be rereer— cases didn't. and i've got to be wrer-vew.— cases didn't. and i've got to be honest you, rebecca, if you honest with you, rebecca, if you brewer— honest with you, rebecca, if you brewer-erew— honest with you, rebecca, if you brought show back. exactly brought that show back. exactly reeere.— brought that show back. exactly rxeerv. ae— brought that show back. exactly exactly. as.was_ brought that show back. exactly exactly. as.was in— brought that show back. exactly exactly. as was in the i'm exactly. as it was in the i'm reerre— exactly. as it was in the i'm reerre-re— exactly. as it was in the i'm looking-isllate- exactly. as it was in the i'm looking is late 80s, looking here, is it late 80s, reee— looking here, is it late 80s, eeeelrrrrr— looking here, is it late 80s, 90s?ithink it— looking here, is it late 80s, 90s? think it was. would it 90s? i think it was. it would it were— 90s? i think it was. it would it would absolutely— 90s? i think it was. it would it would absolutely bang again wewrerr—

would absolutely bang again wewrerrle — would absolutely bang again wouldn'tl? do— would absolutely bang again wouldn't ? thr wouldn't it? do you know what i think it would because it's sort of very tongue in cheek. it's not trying be anything. it's not trying to be anything. it's not. think the not. and i think that's the popularity we as viewers popularity we know as viewers when to be when we're trying to be manipulated or duped. like you said, you want it said, if you want to call it trash prefer the term trash or i prefer the term escapism entertainment, trash or i prefer the term escapism entertainment , which trash or i prefer the term escapism entertainment, which is what springer called it, i think we'd absolutely hooked we'd still be absolutely hooked because people are fascinating. i think we just love seeing people in difficult situations. er things. we'd love to do it, but we'd never dream of doing it. well i'm sorry if it. no. well i'm sorry if somebody tells that i'm about somebody tells me that i'm about to you know , someone to watch, you know, someone confront one of their many , many confront one of their many, many lovers who has just found out about all of their other lovers and they happen to live in a trailer park somewhere outside of north carolina. i am going to rere— of north carolina. i am going to rere er— of north carolina. i am going to rere er ere— of north carolina. i am going to hang on and watch— of north carolina. i am going to hang on and watch that- \rt”“ i am going to hang on and watch that over the weer. — hang on and watch that over the weer. .rrer— hang on and watch that over the break.-that is— hang on and watch that over the break.-that is part- hang on and watch that over the break. that is part of the break. and that is part of the joys— break. and that is part of the reve-reer— break. and that is part of the joys-look thank- break. and that is part of the joys look thank you very joys of it. look thank you very rwew—rerei much, rebecca. rebecca told me rrere— much, rebecca. rebecca told me there entertainment there is entertainment correspondent, course, we're correspondent, of course, we're eeere— correspondent, of course, we're. eeere—rer adding to the very sad news that jerry— adding to the very sad news that rerrv—eeeeee- adding to the very sad news that rerrv—eeeeee ewev| jerry springer has passed away at jerry springer has passed away er rre— jerry springer has passed away er rre-ee.— jerry springer has passed away er rre-ee-r- jerry springer has passed away at the _79.-i mean,| at the age of 79. yeah i mean, an-institution.- at the age of 79. yeah i mean, an-institution. i- at the age of 79. yeah i mean, an institution. i am an absolute institution. i am reerere.— an absolute institution. i am desperate, assure you, desperate, i can assure you, reeree— desperate, i can assure you, ladies gentlemen, to try to

ladies and gentlemen, to try to reve— ladies and gentlemen, to try to reve -reereee — ladies and gentlemen, to try to have _footagelhis- ladies and gentlemen, to try to have footage his best have some footage of his best rre— have some footage of his best ere-rerv— have some footage of his best bits-telly because- have some footage of his best bits telly because it is. bits on the telly because it is. re— bits on the telly because it is. rte-rere.— bits on the telly because it is. it's-time.-ever- bits on the telly because it is. it's-time.-ever need it's about time. if we ever need an it's about time. if we ever need er-eer— it's about time. if we ever need er-eer rrer- it's about time. if we ever need an-get that stuff- it's about time. if we ever need an get that stuff back an excuse to get that stuff back on an excuse to get that stuff back er rw— an excuse to get that stuff back er rv.-nw,_ an excuse to get that stuff back er rv-nw, er— an excuse to get that stuff back on tv. now, of course, on tv. it is. now, of course, rrer— on tv. it is. now, of course, we we— on tv. it is. now, of course, we we 90— on tv. it is. now, of course, that we go right— on tv. it is. now, of course, that we go right loads more that we go right now. loads more on that we go right now. loads more er-rrrewerewr- that we go right now. loads more on-throughout the- on that story throughout the course-show. - on that story throughout the course show. but two more course of the show. but two more rreerrre— course of the show. but two more reerre-ervr- course of the show. but two more moaning civil service. moaning from the civil service. vee.— moaning from the civil service. vee-rewro— moaning from the civil service. vee-gerrreler- yes, after getting rid of rerrrrre— yes, after getting rid of dominic-it- yes, after getting rid of dominic it looks like dominic raab, it looks like rev-re— dominic raab, it looks like rrevlre-re- dominic raab, it looks like. they're-to-steve they're now out to get steve rererev. — they're now out to get steve barclay. reported that barclay. it's reported that rererev— barclay. it's reported that barclay subject barclay is the subject of rrrerrrer— barclay is the subject of. informal—about barclay is the subject of- informal_about his informal complaints about his rerevrewr. — informal complaints about his behaviour. _street - informal complaints about his behaviour. street has behaviour. downing street has eere— behaviour. downing street has eere rrer— behaviour. downing street has said that ministers must be able to said that ministers must be able re rerwerv— said that ministers must be able to robustly challenge civil eerverr— to robustly challenge civil servant and— to robustly challenge civil servant and foreign secretary reeree— servant and foreign secretary james ereverrv— servant and foreign secretary james cleverly is— servant and foreign secretary james cleverly is defend barclay and james cleverly is defend barclay ere eere— james cleverly is defend barclay ere eere rrer— james cleverly is defend barclay and said that the— james cleverly is defend barclay and said that the health seerererv— and said that the health secretary absolutely secretary is absolutely not a rwrv. — secretary is absolutely not a rwrv. ewr— secretary is absolutely not a bully. but course, in light bully. but of course, in light of bully. but of course, in light er-reee— bully. but of course, in lightj of-raab,-report, of dominic raab, the report, rrere— of dominic raab, the report, were .— of dominic raab, the report, were . rrer— of dominic raab, the report, there , that meant that despite there, that meant that despite there, that meant that despite rre-rrer— there, that meant that despite rre-rrer re— there, that meant that despite the that he didn't the fact that he didn't particularly- the fact that he didn't particularly shout swear at particularly shout or swear at evee— particularly shout or swear at anyone-indeed- particularly shout or swear at anyone indeed one person anyone and indeed one person rrer—rerr- anyone and indeed one person that—didn't even| that he reprimand didn't even rerere.— that he reprimand didn't even rerere-wee- that he reprimand didn't even demote, way, had , for all demote, by the way, had, for all rrrerre— demote, by the way, had, for all were ere— demote, by the way, had, for all intents and purposes, essentially- intents and purposes,- essentially-off intents and purposes, essentially-off bit essentially syphoned off a bit of essentially syphoned off a bit er—rerrrerv- essentially syphoned off a bit of_territory to l of our sovereign territory to re— of our sovereign territory to rre—rrer- of our sovereign territory to the _that wasi of our sovereign territory to- the _that was enough the spanish. and that was enough to the spanish. and that was enough re-vew— the spanish. and that was enough re-vew eeeree— the spanish. and that was enough to-you sacked or— the spanish. and that was enough to you sacked or resigned , to get you sacked or resigned, reereree— to get you sacked or resigned, reereree ervwev— to get you sacked or resigned, resigned anyway from a position of resigned anyway from a position er verv— resigned anyway from a position er verv eerrer— resigned anyway from a position of very senior job. _ resigned anyway from a position of very senior job. i i just of very seniorjob. i i just wereer— of very seniorjob. i i just wonder whether or not. steve rererev— wonder whether or not. steve rererev re. — wonder whether or not. steve barclay is. well— wonder whether or not. steve barclay is. well brick ing it. anyway— barclay is. well brick ing it. ervwev. wrr— barclay is. well brick ing it. anyway, with me— barclay is. well brick ing it. anyway, with me now is political

eerrrrereerrr— anyway, with me now is political commentator suzanne evans. swerre— commentator suzanne evans. suzanne thank— commentator suzanne evans. suzanne thank you very much for rerrrre— suzanne thank you very much for joining rre— suzanne thank you very much for joining r— suzanne thank you very much for joining me. i mean,— suzanne thank you very much for joining me. i mean, this cannot be e— joining me. i mean, this cannot be a coincidence— joining me. i mean, this cannot be a coincidence that the nurses ere— be a coincidence that the nurses ere e— be a coincidence that the nurses ere e rer— be a coincidence that the nurses ere e rer er— be a coincidence that the nurses and a lot of people— be a coincidence that the nurses and a lot of people on the left eerr— and a lot of people on the left don't particularly— and a lot of people on the left don't particularly like steve rererev— don't particularly like steve rererev ere— don't particularly like steve barclay and his— don't particularly like steve barclay and his policy when it re— barclay and his policy when it re e pay— barclay and his policy when it comes to a pay rise for them. are— comes to a pay rise for them. are rew— comes to a pay rise for them. are err— comes to a pay rise for them. and now all of— comes to a pay rise for them. and now all of a— comes to a pay rise for them. and now all of a sudden he's a reerre— and now all of a sudden he's a raging ewrv— and now all of a sudden he's a raging rwrrv. re— and now all of a sudden he's a raging bully, is he? no he rer-r. — raging bully, is he? no he isn't. absolutely- raging bully, is he? no he- isn't. absolutely not. i mean, i don't know steve well, but i have met him in fact, funnily enough, the first time i met steve was was attempting steve was when i was attempting to become a parliamentary candidate conservative to become a parliamentary candicand conservative to become a parliamentary candicand intervieweditive to become a parliamentary candicand interviewed mel party, and he interviewed me and i absolutely charming, i found him absolutely charming, terribly engaging. he certainly wasn't a bully in that interview when arguably, you could say he should have been a bit of a bully to test people out and see how well they'd perform under pressure. absolutely pressure. but he was absolutely lovely. we've got lovely. and i think we've got a situation now. it's not so much anymore. ministers doing anymore. i think ministers doing the the civil the bullying as the civil servants bullying the ministers. now they were emboldened now perhaps they were emboldened by report into dominic raab by the report into dominic raab last week, which forced him to resign even though on the face of it, his peccadilloes didn't seem to be very great at all.

you know, he was pretty much exerereree— you know, he was pretty much exonerated of— you know, he was pretty much exonerated of more or less every eere— exonerated of more or less every ererr. rer— exonerated of more or less every ererr. be we— exonerated of more or less every claim, bar two against him . '“r: claim, bar two against him. and the claim, bar two against him. and ere rerere— claim, bar two against him. and ere rerere vew— claim, bar two against him. and the report you look— claim, bar two against him. and the report you look at- claim, bar two against him. and the report you look at it all he was trying to do, i think was trying to get people to do their best work and calling them out when they didn't do their best work. now, wonder if people work. now, i wonder if people in the service and as you the health service and as you said, patrick, the nhs isn't isn't known for its right wing tendencies, its conservative tendencies, its conservative tendencies, let's put it that way . i think we've seen several way. i think we've seen several conservative kyiv health ministers out of a job through some kind of not terribly exciting scandal, whereas whereas labour ministers, when there's been a labour governing government, in my recollection the health service can go to hell in a handcart and they seem to be quite safe in their jobs. to be quite safe in theirjobs. so i suspect that there were people who were emboldened by that into dominic raab that report into dominic raab last week and have now decided that they'd like to bring down another or in their view, unpopular conservative minister. what do we do, suzanne? do you have to say a phrase— what do we do, suzanne? do you

have to say a phrase that- rtrtr rtrtr “7 do you have to say a phrase that you're not have to say a phrase that you're rer reerv— have to say a phrase that you're not really supposed to anymore, wrer— not really supposed to anymore, wrrrlrlwer— not really supposed to anymore, which-just man— not really supposed to anymore, which-just man up— not really supposed to anymore, which just man up ? not really supposed to anymore, which just man up? c which is just man up? it's a good— which is just man up? it's a good rrere.— which is just man up? it's a good phrase. and— which is just man up? it's a good phrase. and i don't mean sometimes that's what is called for. and maybe that's the kind of approach that. steve barclay barclay with, with, with barclay took with, with, with the service the civil the health service and the civil service . it's not performing the health service and the civil servi(we've. not performing the health service and the civil servi(we've got performing the health service and the civil servi(we've got waitingning the health service and the civil servi(we've got waiting lists at well. we've got waiting lists at a record high. we've got junior doctors and nurses holding the country to ransom. i mean, let's not forget that the nurses have rejected a 5% pay rise against the advice of their own union, the advice of their own union, the royal college of nursing . it the royal college of nursing. it is increasingly beginning to look like they're trying to bnng look like they're trying to bring down a government rather than stand up for their own rights. and i'm sure we can all recall pictures of the picket lines outside hospitals , which lines outside hospitals, which don't so much say, you know , don't so much say, you know, fair pay for a fair day's work. but sit down with the tories . but sit down with the tories. wrre.— but sit down with the tories. wrre. veer.— but sit down with the tories. wrre. veer. r— but sit down with the tories. mhm. yeah. i suppose- but sit down with the tories. mhm. yeah. i suppose it- but sit down with the tories. mhm. yeah. i suppose it is that implication isn't it. there's political motivation when it comes to all of this. suzanne, thank you very, very much. great to have you on the show. oh, wait, no, actually, i've to have you on the show. oh, wainou, actually, i've to have you on the show. oh, wainou, actuai'm i've

to have you on the show. oh, wainou, actuai'm getting ve got you, sorry, i'm getting something ear now in light something in my ear now in light of the sad news of jerry springer's passing at the age of 79, reliably informed, 79, i am reliably informed, suzanne, that you met jerry spnngen suzanne, that you met jerry springer. right? i have. springer. is that right? i have. that's right. we-actuallyl that's right. we were actually on that's right. we were actually er rre— that's right. we were actually er rre ee— that's right. we were actually on the same tv— that's right. we were actually on the same tv programme reeerrer. — on the same tv programme reeerrer. r— on the same tv programme together. it was— on the same tv programme together. it was a programme rreeerree— together. it was a programme presented andrew neil called presented by andrew neil called this presented by andrew neil called rrre weer— presented by andrew neil called this week-the— presented by andrew neil called this week the beeb and he was this week on the beeb and he was one this week on the beeb and he was ere-eweere— this week on the beeb and he was ere-eweere-r— this week on the beeb and he was one-guests-i have- this week on the beeb and he was one _guests-i have to l one of the guests and i have to say,— one of the guests and i have to eev. vew— one of the guests and i have to eev. vew new.— one of the guests and i have to eev. vew rrew. vew— one of the guests and i have to say, you know, you might think his say, you know, you might think he erew— say, you know, you might think his show-trash,— say, you know, you might think his show trash, but my his show was trash, but my eeeereee— his show was trash, but my goodness, springer was goodness, jerry springer was ervrrrre— goodness, jerry springer was ervrrrre ewr— goodness, jerry springer was anything but trash. he what anything but trash. he was what you anything but trash. he was what vew-eer— anything but trash. he was what vew-eer e— anything but trash. he was what you call a consummate you might call a consummate eerrerer— you might call a consummate politician-thing,- politician charmer thing, intelligent— politician charmer thing, intelligent ,— politician charmer thing, intelligent, engaging, very happily_ intelligent, engaging, very happily posing for photographs. i'll happily posing for photographs. rlr ewr— happily posing for photographs. rlr ewr r— happily posing for photographs. rrr put r er— happily posing for photographs. rrr put r er my— happily posing for photographs. i'll put it on my twitter feed rerer— i'll put it on my twitter feed rerer ere— i'll put it on my twitter feed we end r— i'll put it on my twitter feed later and if i— i'll put it on my twitter feed later and if i can— i'll put it on my twitter feed later and if i can fish it out of later and if i can fish it out er rre— later and if i can fish it out of the archives,— later and if i can fish it out of the archives, absolutely revere— of the archives, absolutely reverv. er— of the archives, absolutely lovely, man. change the face of, i lovely, man. change the face of, r rrrrr— lovely, man. change the face of, i think, television.— lovely, man. change the face of, i think, television. that kind of i think, television. that kind er werre— i think, television. that kind of probing into— i think, television. that kind of probing into people's lives, rrer— of probing into people's lives, we rre— of probing into people's lives, we rre er— of probing into people's lives, that kind of invasive tv that you— that kind of invasive tv that vew ree— that kind of invasive tv that vew re re— that kind of invasive tv that you had to love— that kind of invasive tv that you had to love to hate, but you rever— you had to love to hate, but you revee r— you had to love to hate, but you revee r re— you had to love to hate, but you loved it to you. _ you had to love to hate, but you loved it to you. l/rtcl“ 4t. loved it to you. yeah. you couldn't take your eyes off it. it was all action. and i absolutely loved it. i have seen some things on jerry springer's show that i i've never seen anywhere else, and i very much

doubt anywhere else, and i very much douth anywhere else, and i very much doubt i ever will. suzanne thank you.see doubt i ever will. suzanne thank you. see you again . you will you. see you again. you will never again. yeah. although never see again. yeah. although i am desperately to pitch i am desperately trying to pitch the replicating that the idea of replicating that show here on with show right here on gb news with limited must be limited success, it must be said. you, said. suzanne, thank you, suzanne political suzanne evans, political commentator, us that commentator, joining us that right. so moving on, a right. okay. so moving on, a police officer has warned a motorist that if he disrupted just stop oil protests , he will just stop oil protests, he will be guilty of assault . whose side be guilty of assault. whose side are these people on? it's suella braverman right to say that our pc s are too pc. i'm patrick christys on gb news britain's

across the uk. this is gb news radio . welcome back,- across the uk. t“ [15 r 3?th welcome back, everybody 3clr: welcome back, everybody. radio. welcome back, everybody. reere— radio. welcome back, everybody. reeee rrere— radio. welcome back, everybody. loads more still— radio. welcome back, everybody. loads more still to— 3clr: welcome back, everybody. loads more still to come between ere— loads more still to come between ere eree.— loads more still to come between now and 5:00. suella braverman eeve— now and 5:00. suella braverman eeve rrer— now and 5:00. suella braverman says that small— now and 5:00. suella braverman says that small boat migrants eeeeeee— says that small boat migrants possess values— says that small boat migrants possess values which are at odds wrr— possess values which are at odds wrr ewr— possess values which are at odds with our country— possess values which are at odds with our country .— possess values which are at odds with our country . arnie do you with our country. arnie do you rrrrr— with our country. arnie do you rrrrr rrer— with our country. arnie do you think that she's— with our country. arnie do you think that she's right and is rrer— think that she's right and is re frankly— think that she's right and is that frankly, a _ think that she's right and is that frankly, a ticking time reerre— that frankly, a ticking time reerre re— that frankly, a ticking time bomb? do you— that frankly, a ticking time bomb? do you think that people eerrrre— bomb? do you think that people eerrrre eereee— bomb? do you think that people coming across channel, many coming across the channel, many of coming across the channel, many er—verwee- coming across the channel, many of_values which of them might have values which are _values that. are different to the values that wei—n— are different to the values that we—n enn- we try to uphold in this

eewnnwe— we try to uphold in this eewnnwe-ee- we try to uphold in this country?-so ,- we try to uphold in this country? so , is we try to uphold in this. country?-so , is that we try to uphold in this- country?-so , is that a country? and if so, is that a problem— country.7 and if so, is that a pnewene n-n— country? and if so, is that a problem? i'm _to - country? and if so, is that a- problem? i'm _to i having problem? i'm going to be having a problem? i'm going to be having n—nnen— problem? i'm going to be having e—nnnn wnen- problem? i'm going to be having a_that when i'm. a big chat about that when i'm been.— a big chat about that when i'm been. and— a big chat about that when i'm been. and ew— a big chat about that when i'm back. and our police officers newne— back. and our police officers swing winn— back. and our police officers siding with-oil- siding with just stop oil pneneenen— siding with just stop oil protesters threatening to protesters and threatening to ewee— protesters and threatening to arrest motorists— protesters and threatening to arrest motorists whose side are they— arrest motorists whose side are new on— arrest motorists whose side are new en en— arrest motorists whose side are new en en ew— arrest motorists whose side are they on or our pcs— arrest motorists whose side are they on or our pcs to pc. but ewew— they on or our pcs to pc. but new before— they on or our pcs to pc. but first, before we— they on or our pcs to pc. but first, before we get stuck into all first, before we get stuck into an en— first, before we get stuck into an en enn— first, before we get stuck into all of that is— first, before we get stuck into all of that is the _ first, before we get stuck into all of that is the headlines win— all of that is the headlines wnn netw— all of that is the headlines win new .— all of that is the headlines with polly . patrick thank you. with polly. patrick thank you. the— with polly. patrick thank you. the top — with polly. patrick thank you. the top stories— with polly. patrick thank you. the top stories this— with polly. patrick thank you. the top stories this evening. the top stories this evening. the foreign secretary says the government is continuing to assist british nationals in leaving sudan in northeast africa, urging them to make their way to the airport for evacuation as soon as possible . evacuation as soon as possible. british forces are currently racing to rescue as many people as they can before the ceasefire ends tonight. and james cleverly says no one can predict the situation on the ground after that. more than 530 british citizens have been flown to safety as of yesterday evening . safety as of yesterday evening. 16,000, though, have fled sudan across the border into egypt, including 14,000 sudanese.

here's strike action planned by the royal college of nursing for the royal college of nursing for the 2nd of may would be unlawful . a high court judge has ruled today the rcn six month mandate for strike action will have lapsed by tuesday. prime attempts by nurses took place outside the court with signs saying silencing nurses is silencing patients and a murder investigation has been launched into the death of a pregnant teacher in glasgow. moral struck was found dead on tuesday morning . she had been 29 weeks morning. she had been 29 weeks pregnant. her baby didn't survive. there's a manhunt underway for her fiance, david yates. his car was found at mugdock country park, where police are now focusing their search. and the government has unveiled the biggest shake up of gambling laws in 15 years. it says it aims to redress the power imbalance between punters and operators. gambling companies will have to step up checks to better protect even those unable to afford small losses. plans also include maximum stakes for online slot machines of between two and £15.

as you've been hearing, the us talk show host jerry springer has died at the age of 79. he was a prominent figure on tv networks for nearly three decadesin networks for nearly three decades in america , best known decades in america, best known for showcasing every day family dramas on his show. television was his second career. he was previously a politician and served as mayor of cincinnati. the british american passed away peacefully at his home in chicago . you're up to date on tv chicago. you're up to date on tv onune chicago. you're up to date on tv online dab+ radio and on tune in. this is . in. this is. gb news. well, now to the latest in suella braverman war on woke policing. now this time she's neeenee— policing. now this time she's asserted that— policing. now this time she's asserted that the— if. g now this time she's asserted that the police seem to be necking— asserted that the police seem to be neewng we— asserted that the police seem to be backing the just stop oil protesters. — be backing the just stop oil protesters. now— be backing the just stop oil protesters. now the activists newe— protesters. now the activists nave been— protesters. now the activists have been causing disruption. onwewew— have been causing disruption. obviously throughout the streets of

obviously throughout the streets on london — obviously throughout the streets of london over— obviously throughout the streets of london over the— obviously throughout the streets of london over the past week, winging— of london over the past week, bringing traffic— of london over the past week, bringing traffic to— of london over the past week, bringing traffic to a standstill enn— bringing traffic to a standstill and antenna— bringing traffic to a standstill and angering motorists. now the none— and angering motorists. now the home secretary— and angering motorists. now the home secretary has also nineteen— home secretary has also criticised forces for engaging wnn— criticised forces for engaging with debates— criticised forces for engaging with debates on— criticised forces for engaging with debates on contested social tne— with debates on contested social issues. the implication here is wet— issues. the implication here is we we— issues. the implication here is that the police— issues. the implication here is that the police force in some way— that the police force in some way ewppene— that the police force in some way supports what just stop oil are way supports what just stop oil doing— way supports what just stop oil doing on— way supports what just stop oil are doing or certainly is not doing— are doing or certainly is not doing enewgn— are doing or certainly is not doing enough to— are doing or certainly is not doing enough to protect the desire— doing enough to protect the desire eni— doing enough to protect the desire and-lives- doing enough to protect the desire and lives really of desire and the lives really of weii— desire and the lives really of weii ,— desire and the lives really of weii , iet-e— desire and the lives really of well , let's honest with you, well, let's be honest with you, eniinnw— well, let's be honest with you, ordinary-weenie. - ordinary working people. and yesterday— ordinary working people. and yesterday-play- ordinary working people. and yesterday play clip yesterday i did play you a clip of wnn— yesterday i did play you a clip of what appeared— yesterday i did play you a clip of what appeared be a chat of what appeared to be a chat win.— of what appeared to be a chat wiihlvan-_ of what appeared to be a chat with lvan.-man- of what appeared to be a chat with van. man with van with a van. so a man with van getting— with a van. so a man with van getting-ef— with a van. so a man with van getting-oflripping- getting out of it, ripping a protesters— getting out of it, ripping a protesters down and protesters banner down and sewing,— protesters banner down and sewing, new— protesters banner down and sewing, ieew i— protesters banner down and saying, look, i need to get to wow. — saying, look, i need to get to wow-lieeiiw— saying, look, i need to get to work. ireally-to - saying, look, i need to get to work. ireally-to .tol work. i really need to get to wow. — work. i really need to get toj work. _ looked work. i really need to get to- work._looked like work. and then what looked like being— work. and then what looked like being surrounded— work. and then what looked like being surrounded by several neiiee— being surrounded by several neiiee-wne- being surrounded by several police-who said- being surrounded by several police-who said he police officers who said that he mien—essent- police officers who said that he might—assault for. might be done for assault for doing— might be done for assault for doing-ani— might be done for assault for doing-ann i— might be done for assault for doing-and i find- might be done for assault for doing and i find that, doing that. and i find that, weii— doing that. and i find that, well, quite— doing that. and i find that, well, quite maddening, really. wining— well, quite maddening, really. wining ne— well, quite maddening, really. wining ne nw— well, quite maddening, really. joining me now is former met neiiee— joining me now is former met police officer— joining me now is former met police officer chris hobbs. cnne— police officer chris hobbs. cnne-wew- police officer chris hobbs.i chris,-you-much. police officer chris hobbs.- chris,-you-much. and chris, thank you very much. and are chris, thank you very much. and ere-pence— chris, thank you very much. and are-police more— chris, thank you very much. and are-police more on- chris, thank you very much. and are police more on the side are the police more on the side of are the police more on the side on wet— are the police more on the side on wet sten— are the police more on the side on wet step oi— are the police more on the side of just stop oil than your ordinary— of just stop oil than your ordinary working man woman ? ordinary working man and woman? i ordinary working man and woman? i-sne-s— ordinary working man and woman? i-sne-s sne— ordinary working man and woman? i-sne-s sne nes— ordinary working man and woman? i-she's she has really- ordinary working man and woman? i-she's she has really ,- i think she's she has really, really upset police officers with that statement. if she gave them the tools, they'd be able to do the properly. they've

to do the job properly. they've got no brief for just stop oil problem they've got is of course, is legislation supreme court. they have decreed that a certain amount of disruption can be caused by protests because of human rights. articles 11 and 12 and some people got acquitted for that reason . so that's set a for that reason. so that's set a precedent. if you protest, you can cause a certain amount of disruption . and then, of course, disruption. and then, of course, with slow marching by the police specifically requested that that be brought into into law to become an act of parliament. the government tried it . you can't government tried it. you can't slow march or you would be arrested. it's the specific offence and it was thrown out by the house of lords. so the police to a certain extent have got their hands tied. as for potentially preventing a motorist from assaulting a jail . so protester police have got every sympathy with with their frustrations , but they can't frustrations, but they can't stand by. yeah if they stood by and something happened and

somebody got hurt, that officer or officers will be facing discipline proceedings and could end up in court for misconduct in public office. yes, it's a very nienw— in public office. yes, it's a very tricky one.— in public office. yes, it's a very tricky one. i- " it. cc: yes, it's a very tricky one. i have got a iinie— very tricky one. i have got a iinie eiin— very tricky one. i have got a little clip now— very tricky one. i have got a little clip now of— very tricky one. i have got a little clip now of something we— little clip now of something we wee— little clip now of something that was doing— little clip now of something that was doing the rounds on eeeini— that was doing the rounds on social media— that was doing the rounds on social media earlier on, and i'm ine— social media earlier on, and i'm just going— social media earlier on, and i'm just going to— social media earlier on, and i'm just going to win— social media earlier on, and i'm just going to talk through just going to talk you through it. just going to talk you through in rein.— just going to talk you through it. really—with. just going to talk you throughi it. really._with van it. really. so it's man with van nwiiing— it. really. so it's man with van pulling up,— it. really. so it's man with van pulling up, confronted by a inner— pulling up, confronted by a banner of— pulling up, confronted by a barrier of just— pulling up, confronted by a barrier of just stop oil rips we— barrier of just stop oil rips tne nee— barrier of just stop oil rips tne new ei— barrier of just stop oil rips the post of banner out of the post of the banner out of men— the post of the banner out of weir-eni— the post of the banner out of their-and goes- the post of the banner out of their- and goes to- the post of the banner out of their and goes to dash it their hands and goes to dash it on their hands and goes to dash it en-eiie— their hands and goes to dash it en-eiie ei— their hands and goes to dash it on-side of the— their hands and goes to dash it on side of the road. he on the side of the road. he enu— on the side of the road. he eiii get— on the side of the road. he still got his— on the side of the road. he still got his hand. then one neiiee— still got his hand. then one police officer,— still got his hand. then one police officer, two police officers. — police officer, two police officers. - get - police officer, two police officers. -get in- police officer, two police officers. get in touch. officers. they get in touch. inew-ne— officers. they get in touch. inew-ne-eewingl they're basically saying, look, vou— they're basically saying, look, wen—win - they're basically saying, look, wen—win ne-el you need to stop this. he's sewing,— you need to stop this. he's- sewing—wow. saying, i've got to get to work. i-we— saying, i've got to get to work. he get— saying, i've got to get to work. he get-get— saying, i've got to get to work. he get-get w— saying, i've got to get to work. i've got get to please i've got to get to work. please let i've got to get to work. please iet-get— i've got to get to work. please iet-get te— i've got to get to work. please let-get to work.- i've got to get to work. please let get to work. the police let me get to work. the police officers—eel let me get to work. the police. officers—as this let me get to work. the police. officplays_as this let me get to work. the police. officplays on _as this let me get to work. the police officplays on as as this let me get to work. the police officplays on as well. as this let me get to work. the police officplays on as well. anotheris clip plays on as well. another eewnie— clip plays on as well. another eewnie ef— clip plays on as well. another couple of police— clip plays on as well. another couple of police officers get inweiwei— couple of police officers get involved-and- couple of police officers get involved and i've got involved as well. and i've got to involved as well. and i've got w-it— involved as well. and i've got win to— involved as well. and i've got win to wow— involved as well. and i've got to-it to you, chris,- involved as well. and i've got to it to you, chris, that to put it to you, chris, that we— to put it to you, chris, that we eniinnw— to put it to you, chris, that the ordinary watching the ordinary person watching tnie— the ordinary person watching tnie-i— the ordinary person watching the. wink— the ordinary person watching this i think would have this now, i think would have a lot-sympathy— this now, i think would have a lot-sympathy for- this now, i think would have a lot sympathy for the lot of sympathy for the idea wet— lot of sympathy for the idea we ine— lot of sympathy for the idea we we we— lot of sympathy for the idea that just the way that it looks, wnien— that just the way that it looks, wnien ie— that just the way that it looks, wnien ie we — that just the way that it looks, which is the police are going to do which is the police are going to no oe— which is the police are going to do more about— which is the police are going to do more about a— which is the police are going to do more about a man ripping a ionne— do more about a man ripping a ionne owi— do more about a man ripping a ionne owi oi— do more about a man ripping a banner out of some annoying ieoiie-e— banner out of some annoying ieoiie-e nonin— banner out of some annoying people's hands than they are banner out of some annoying peopletheiands than they are banner out of some annoying peoplethe annoyingi they are banner out of some annoying peoplethe annoying people.'e banner out of some annoying peoplethe annoying people. well about the annoying people. well i've

about the annoying people. well i-we insi— about the annoying people. well i've just explained— about the annoying people. well i've just explained the reasons why— i've just explained the reasons wnw-nonie— i've just explained the reasons wnw-nonie oe- i've just explained the reasons why hands are tied and if why their hands are tied and if new— why their hands are tied and if they-intervene,- why their hands are tied and if they intervene, there and they didn't intervene, there and eoneining— they didn't intervene, there and something happened and that something had happened and that noionei— something had happened and that motorist perhaps— something had happened and that motorist perhaps got really wieei— motorist perhaps got really wieei-wiei— motorist perhaps got really upset tried dragging motorist perhaps got really upset alongiragging motorist perhaps got really upset along the ging motorist perhaps got really upset along the floor somebody along the floor and new— somebody along the floor and inew-gwiie—oil they got quite badly hurt or onen— they got quite badly hurt or their clothes— they got quite badly hurt or their clothes damaged and their clothes got damaged and their clothes got damaged and one-iii— their clothes got damaged and the-did nothing. - their clothes got damaged and the did nothing. the police did nothing. those ioiiee— the police did nothing. those police officers. _ the police did nothing. those police officers. so— the police did nothing. those police officers. so what they're trying do they've i trying to do, they've got i think got every every think they've got every every police officer i talk to on these and i go to quite these protests and i go to quite a have been able to a few of them have been able to keep with stop oil . i keep up with just stop oil. i was observing extinction was out observing extinction rebellion days. rebellion over those four days. yeah, police officer yeah, but every police officer can sympathise and empathise with the frustrations felt by motorists and their hands are tied is what you're saying? and especially when people- iii: q7 and especially when people find c22 q7 and especially when people find out as especially when people find out oe weii— especially when people find out oe weii inoi— especially when people find out as well that legislation that iioioiiw— as well that legislation that probably would— as well that legislation that probably would have stopped what ewneniiw— probably would have stopped what we're currently-now,- we're currently seeing now, wnien— we're currently seeing now, wnien-eiow- we're currently seeing now, which slow walking, was which is this slow walking, was oeiwoiiw— which is this slow walking, was actually knocked— which is this slow walking, was actually knocked back by the noise— actually knocked back by the noise oi— actually knocked back by the house of lords— actually knocked back by the house of lords and maybe people snowi— house of lords and maybe people enowii ione— house of lords and maybe people should take it— house of lords and maybe people should take it up— house of lords and maybe people should take it up with them as opposed— should take it up with them as opioeeoline— should take it up with them as opposed the police. i do opposed to the police. and i do feei— opposed to the police. and i do ieei-ioi— opposed to the police. and i do ieei-ioi ine— opposed to the police. and i do feel-for the police. feel very sorry for the police on-ieeowee— feel very sorry for the police on-because-are- on this because they are very noon— on this because they are very noon oi— on this because they are very noon oi ine— on this because they are very much at the frontline it and much at the frontline of it and inew-ie— much at the frontline of it and they're-visible— much at the frontline of it and they're .visible - of - they're the visible face of wine— they're the visible face of- public—incredible public anger. i have incredible ewnpoiiw—eonei public anger. i have incrediblei sympathy. _same if sympathy. i will be the same if i_w— sympathy. i will be the same if i-nw eon— sympathy. i will be the same if i-nw owing- sympathy. i will be the same if i-nw iwinglgeil

sympathy. i will be the same if i my car trying get to i was in my car trying to get to wow— i was in my car trying to get to worn on— i was in my car trying to get to worn on onene— i was in my car trying to get to work or there was— i was in my car trying to get to work or there was disruption to my gow— work or there was disruption to my iow. i— work or there was disruption to my day- i neon— work or there was disruption to my day. i mean, good grief, work is my day. i mean, good grief, work ie—ii.— my day. i mean, good grief, work ie—ii. con— my day. i mean, good grief, work ie—ii. con wow- is the least of it. can you inogine—o- is the least of it. can you. imagine—a relative imagine if you had a relative nowing— imagine if you had a relative nowing o— imagine if you had a relative nowing o-in— imagine if you had a relative having a-in the- imagine if you had a relative having a in the back of having a stroke in the back of wow— having a stroke in the back of wow eon— having a stroke in the back of your car or something? the worst case scenario-your- your car or something? the worst case scenario your in case scenario stuff your wife in ioiow— case scenario stuff your wife in labour-whatever.— case scenario stuff your wife in labour whatever. be labour or whatever. i would be oieoiwie— labour or whatever. i would be absolute—livid- absolute absolutely livid with ioiiee— absolute absolutely livid with ioiiee ion— absolute absolutely livid with police for not— absolute absolutely livid with police for not doing anything oiowi— police for not doing anything oiowiliwi— police for not doing anything about but there's not really about it. but there's not really about it. but there's not really o ioi— about it. but there's not really o ioi inew— about it. but there's not really o ioi inew-io. — about it. but there's not really a lot they do. let's change a lot they can do. let's change ine— a lot they can do. let's change one-igni— a lot they can do. let's change the-right here— a lot they can do. let's change the-right here on- a lot they can do. let's change the right here on this show. the law right here on this show. wnoi—neeie- the law right here on this show. what—need? well,l the law right here on this show. l what—need? well, you what laws do we need? well, you need— what laws do we need? well, you need-ii— what laws do we need? well, you need-if there's- what laws do we need? well, you need if there's going need basically if there's going to need basically if there's going io—oi— need basically if there's goingi to_of obstructing to be an offence of obstructing the to be an offence of obstructing one—none- to be an offence of obstructing one—none ii- to be an offence of obstructingj the—make it with the highway, let's make it with some penalties— the highway, let's make it with some penalties and let's take owow— some penalties and let's take owow ine— some penalties and let's take away the human— some penalties and let's take away the human rights act ieowe— away the human rights act because as long as that human ioignie— because as long as that human ioignie wei— because as long as that human rights act-there— because as long as that human rights act there and rights act is there and oiwioweiw— rights act is there and obviously that's controversial, if obviously that's controversial, ii-io— obviously that's controversial, ii-io remove— obviously that's controversial, if-do remove it,- obviously that's controversial, if do remove it, articles if you do remove it, articles ien— if you do remove it, articles ien oni— if you do remove it, articles ien oni ii— if you do remove it, articles ten and 11, then— if you do remove it, articles ten and 11, then this is going to ten and 11, then this is going io ie— ten and 11, then this is going io ie ine— ten and 11, then this is going to be the case. _ ten and 11, then this is going to be the case. ' : itiziti. to be the case. and of course, even if police make arrests , even if police make arrests, they then got to get it past the crown prosecution service and that in itself could be problematic if they turn around and well, i'm sorry, and say, well, i'm sorry, articles ten and 11 trump what you've just tried to do or what you've just tried to do or what you've done in arresting that particular individual . so it is. particular individual. so it is. but they have having said that, previous stop oil protest, previous just stop oil protest, police have arrested more than

500 protesters . but now 500 of those protesters. but now you've got this precedence been set legally, which is what the commissioner pointed out in his confrontation that he had yesterday. you know, no, the law our hands are tied this morning , as i understand it, they have moved to jso protesters. they've invoked a part of the public order act that says if it's really serious disruption, we can act . and they've actually can act. and they've actually moved them. and so complied and got out of the road when they were threatened with arrest . were threatened with arrest. all right, look, thank you very noon— all right, look, thank you very noon cine.— all right, look, thank you very much, chris. great— all right, look, thank you very much, chris. great stuff. chris noiie,— much, chris. great stuff. chris noiie, wno— much, chris. great stuff. chris hobbs, who indeed former hobbs, who is indeed a former wei— hobbs, who is indeed a former mei—oni- hobbs, who is indeed a former mei—one on- hobbs, who is indeed a former met—and on that| met police officer and on that one:— met police officer and on that one-goi— met police officer and on that one-goo io— met police officer and on that one, got to honest with one, i've got to be honest with you,— one, i've got to be honest with wow-inni— one, i've got to be honest with you,-think suella- you, i just think suella braverman— you, i just think suella braverman has got you, i just think suella- braverman-has got that braverman maybe has got that one wrong—ori- wrong, because whilst we all ogree— wrong, because whilst we all ogeewe-- wrong, because whilst we all ogeewe- ori- agree well, say we all, i eenoiniw— agree well, say we all, i certainly would like police to come in swinging and get rid of onese— come in swinging and get rid of ineee reorie— come in swinging and get rid of these people. what do we realistically— these people. what do we realistically them to do realistically expect them to do wnier— realistically expect them to do under-current— realistically expect them to do under current law? so you under the current law? so you eon-i— under the current law? so you eon-i io— under the current law? so you eon-i io inoi. — under the current law? so you can't do that. so— under the current law? so you can't do that. so is suella braverman-an- can't do that. so is suella- braverman-an unnecessary braverman picking an unnecessary igni— braverman picking an unnecessary iigni-ioiieee— braverman picking an unnecessary fight-police? there- fight with the police? there nowie—o- fight with the police? there nowie—o iiil fight with the police? therei maybe—a bit of fight with the police? there- maybe_a bit of heat maybe even turning a bit of heat on onene— maybe even turning a bit of heat on them? they're— maybe even turning a bit of heat on them? they're saying they're too on them? they're saying they're ioo iiwi— on them? they're saying they're roo-iwi nere— on them? they're saying they're too - but here is _ on them? they're saying they're too but here is something too pc, but here is something i ininn— too pc, but here is something i wink—igni- too pc, but here is something i

think—right. okay.| think she has got right. okay. so think she has got right. okay. so ene— think she has got right. okay. so one eoii— think she has got right. okay. so she said that— think she has got right. okay. so she said that people coming nere— so she said that people coming nere iiiegoiiw— so she said that people coming here illegally possess values wnien— here illegally possess values wnien oe— here illegally possess values which are at— here illegally possess values which are at odds with our oownirw— which are at odds with our country. there's- which are at odds with our country. there's a lot to get ewew— country. there's a lot to get ewew inro— country. there's a lot to get stuck into here. _ country. there's a lot to get stuck into here. so she also eoii— stuck into here. so she also eoii inor— stuck into here. so she also said that small— stuck into here. so she also said that small boat migrants are said that small boat migrants unwei— said that small boat migrants are linked heightened levels are linked to heightened levels of criminality.— are linked to heightened levels of criminality. well this got me ininwing— of criminality. well this got me thinking about— of criminality. well this got me thinking about british values . thinking about british values. do thinking about british values. io onese— thinking about british values. do these people— thinking about british values. do these people share these woweei— do these people share these woweei oni— do these people share these values and-that- do these people share these values and that going to be values and is that going to be a iroiien — values and is that going to be a iroiien going— values and is that going to be a problem going forward? and i'm ioinei— problem going forward? and i'm ioinei-ine— problem going forward? and i'm joined the international joined now by the international nonon—iowiii human rights lawyer, david nogwe.— human rights lawyer, david none—wool human rights lawyer, david. nogwe.—wow vew hague. david, thank you very noon. — hague. david, thank you very much. .suella _ hague. david, thank you very much. suella braverman not much. it's suella braverman not going— stating the bleeding obvious, wnien—o- stating the bleeding obvious, wnien—oioil which is that quite a lot of ieoiie— which is that quite a lot ofi ieoiie—on which is that quite a lot of- ieoiie—on enoii people coming over here on small iooie— people coming over here on small iooie-eoning— people coming over here on small boats-coming from _ people coming over here on small boats coming from countries boats are coming from countries inor— boats are coming from countries inoi-nowe— boats are coming from countries inoi-nowe-eone- boats are coming from countries that have same values that do not have the same values oni—inoi- that do not have the same values one—inoi nowi and norms as ours, and that may weii— and norms as ours, and that may well-dangerous. _ and norms as ours, and that may well dangerous. well be dangerous. i think. i rhini— well be dangerous. i think. i think she needs to clarify what she values , because she means by values, because obviously what we or certainly what would as values in what i would term as values in the uk, things like democracy rule of law in integrity, liberty and tolerance , things liberty and tolerance, things like that are probably things that she's not shown in making that she's not shown in making that comment. now, the worry inor— that comment. now, the worry no i— that comment. now, the worry no i nove— that comment. now, the worry no i nowe in— that comment. now, the worry that i have in this— that comment. now, the worry that i have in this from - rtr?" now, the worry that i have in this from from iron— that i have in this from from iron o— that i have in this from from iron o iegoi— that i have in this from from from a legal perspective, but ini— from a legal perspective, but iii in— from a legal perspective, but but in general— from a legal perspective, but but in general is— from a legal perspective, but but in general is that she is none— but in general is that she is our home secretary and she has moie— our home secretary and she has

noie eornrnenei— our home secretary and she has made comments where it looks iiie— made comments where it looks iiie inere-e— made comments where it looks like there's tinges_ made comments where it looks like there's tinges of xenophobia- like there's tinges of xenophobia and discrimination. so xenophobia and discrimination. so ieo-s— xenophobia and discrimination. so ieo-s ioni— xenophobia and discrimination. so let's fast forward _ xenophobia and discrimination. so let's fast forward a - xenophobia and discrimination. so let's fast forward a little bit, patrick, to next year. let's say, for instance, the were— let's say, for instance, the were gone— let's say, for instance, the act's gone through the immigration- act's gone through the immigration act's gone through, and immigration act's gone through, oni one-e— immigration act's gone through, and she's making— immigration act's gone through, and she's making discretionary ieeieione. — decisions. she's trying to disapply the can disapply orders of the can i ask, could i ask just just on that i think it's very easy to lob out things about xenophobia and stuff. i mean, is it not iner— and stuff. i mean, is it not we o— and stuff. i mean, is it not ioei o einiie— a“: i mean, is it not just a simple matter of fact inor— just a simple matter of fact that women's— just a simple matter of fact that women's rights in a lot of indie— that women's rights in a lot of middle eastern— that women's rights in a lot of middle eastern countries and indeed— middle eastern countries and indeed india,— middle eastern countries and indeed india, example , are indeed india, for example, are not-they— indeed india, for example, are nor-inew oe— indeed india, for example, are not they are here? not what they are here? gay rignie— not what they are here? gay rignre ogoin— not what they are here? gay rights again, what are rights again, not what they are nee.— rights again, not what they are nere. ani— rights again, not what they are here. and actually, indeed, if i do here. and actually, indeed, if i io-eiwiw— here. and actually, indeed, if i io-eiwiw inor- here. and actually, indeed, if i do study that we've do look at a study that we've ieen— do look at a study that we've ieen rowing— do look at a study that we've been talking about rather a lot on onio— been talking about rather a lot on one snow— been talking about rather a lot on this show today about just generoi— on this show today about just general levels— on this show today about just general levels-in. general levels of racism in a lot general levels of racism in a ioileowniriee— general levels of racism in a lot-countries ,— general levels of racism in a lot-countries , a- general levels of racism in a lot countries , a lot lot of countries, a lot of owner— lot of countries, a lot of countries higher than countries score higher than us, ineiwiing— countries score higher than us, including-like- countries score higher than us, including like iran, including places like iran, for exoniie,— including places like iran, for exoniiei—oi- including places like iran, fori example,_of these example, where a lot of these ieoiie— example, where a lot of these ieoiie — example, where a lot of these people are supposedly coming iron— people are supposedly coming iron-iooie. - people are supposedly coming from-boats. i- people are supposedly coming from-boats. i just- from in small boats. i just woneir— from in small boats. i just wonder down— from in small boats. i just wonder down the line, once this plays— wonder down the line, once this plays-and— wonder down the line, once this iiowe-oni onese— wonder down the line, once this plays and these people plays out and these people arrive - live - plays out and these people arrive - live here . plays out and these people arrive live here and arrive here and live here and rowing— arrive here and live here and we're talking a— arrive here and live here and we're talking a decade or or we're talking a decade on or or 20 weore— we're talking a decade on or or zo weore on— we're talking a decade on or or zo weore ie— we're talking a decade on or or 20 years on, is there not a eenooi— 20 years on, is there not a eenooi oi— 20 years on, is there not a school of thought that says a lot school of thought that says a ioi oi— school of thought that says a ioi oi-ore — school of thought that says a lot of - are _to i school of thought that says a. lot of-are-to this lot of people are coming to this connin—

lot of people are coming to this eowniw wno— lot of people are coming to this eonnrrw wno now— lot of people are coming to this country who may well have sexist and homophobic— country who may well have sexist and homophobic views? and if it oiner— and homophobic views? and if it was other people— and homophobic views? and if it was other people walking around wiri— was other people walking around win—wow— was other people walking around with _you wouldn't. with those views, you wouldn't be with those views, you wouldn't ie—ani - with those views, you wouldn't ie—ani i- with those views, you wouldn'tl ie—ani i ogree be tolerant of that. and i agree wiri— be tolerant of that. and i agree win you. — be tolerant of that. and i agree with you. certainly— be tolerant of that. and i agree with you. certainly the countries, you know, the majority, the majority of the countries are coming countries that people are coming from, the majority of the people crossing the channel are from muslim countries and from countries the countries and countries that the countries and the that have very the rulers that have very discriminatory practises in terms lgbt rights in terms of terms of lgbt rights in terms of women's so that's women's rights. so that's absolutely true. whether not absolutely true. whether or not inoee— absolutely true. whether or not inoee — absolutely true. whether or not inoee ine— absolutely true. whether or not those are the values— absolutely true. whether or not those are the values of- die; whether or not those are the values of people coming,— those are the values of people coming, o— those are the values of people coming, o ioi— those are the values of people coming, a lot of— those are the values of people coming, a lot of people flee inoee— coming, a lot of people flee those - because - coming, a lot of people flee those - because of i coming, a lot of people flee- those - because of those those countries because of those iieerininoiorw— those countries because of those discriminatory practises so i inini— discriminatory practises so i own ire— discriminatory practises so i own in i— discriminatory practises so i think it's i think, you know, inere-e— think it's i think, you know, there's certainly— think it's i think, you know, there's certainly very much woiwe— there's certainly very much woiwe in— there's certainly very much value in what— there's certainly very much value in what you have said. and i value in what you have said. and i ogree— value in what you have said. and i ogree wiri— value in what you have said. and i ogree win on— value in what you have said. and i agree with an awful lot of it. nor— i agree with an awful lot of it. iii i— i agree with an awful lot of it. iii i wink.— i agree with an awful lot of it. but i think, you— i agree with an awful lot of it. but i think, you know,- i agree with an awful lot of it. but i think, you know, we need to at facts of this. to look at the facts of this. we can't just use a broad brush oni— we can't just use a broad brush one-ewew— we can't just use a broad brush and-every single- we can't just use a broad brush and every single person we can't just use a broad brush and comesvery single person we can't just use a broad brush and comes oversingle person we can't just use a broad brush and comes over ongle person we can't just use a broad brush and comes over on the )erson we can't just use a broad brush and comes over on the channel that comes over on the channel as that comes over on the channel oe nowing— that comes over on the channel as having different— that comes over on the channel as having different values. and i as having different values. and i-worwing— as having different values. and i-worwing inor- as having different values. and i worrying that our i think it's worrying that our none— i think it's worrying that our home secretary— i think it's worrying that our home secretary of all people wowii— home secretary of all people wowii ie— home secretary of all people would be the— home secretary of all people would be the person that would say would be the person that would now inoi. — would be the person that would now inoi. ani— would be the person that would say that. and in— would be the person that would say that. and in any event, i ion-i— say that. and in any event, i ion-i eee— say that. and in any event, i don't see the— say that. and in any event, i don't see the point that don't see the point in that iongnoge— don't see the point in that- language—obviously don't see the point in that- language_obviously , language other than obviously, you language other than obviously, wow know,— language other than obviously, you inowlo— language other than obviously, you know, a political vote you know, as a political vote for—

you know, as a political vote winner for-and- you know, as a political vote winner for and showing her winner for her and showing her or winner for her and showing her o—now- winner for her and showing her or—enow-oi or pretending to show her as a eirong— or pretending to show her as a eirong none— or pretending to show her as a strong home secretary, it's not neiiing— strong home secretary, it's not neiiing ine— strong home secretary, it's not helping the situation. it's not neiiing— helping the situation. it's not helping—issues. helping the situation. it's not. helping—issues that helping resolve the issues that. we-we—ine we've got of people crossing the cnonnei— we've got of people crossing the channel-moment- we've got of people crossing the channel-moment. - we've got of people crossing the channel moment . channel at the moment. okay. ionn— channel at the moment. okay. wow-inni— channel at the moment. okay. look,-thank-very,. look, david, thank you very, very that's hague very much. that's david hague there, an international there, who is an international human rights lawyer and regular here on gb news. it must be said, i do wonder whether or not suella braverman was just trying to open the eyes of some people who say, oh, it's all very well and saying, know, and good saying, you know, refugees ihra refugees welcome and ihra refugees welcome and ihra refugees but if refugees and all of this. but if we of just some of we look at some of just some of the values that some some people coming the channel may the values that some some people comihave, the channel may the values that some some people comihave, is the channel may the values that some some people comihave, is that channel may the values that some some people comi have, is that compatible ay well have, is that compatible with same values? lot of with the same values? a lot of people are doing a of people who are doing a lot of the welcoming this the welcoming and is this a problem that's to problem that's waiting to happen? would happen? many people would disagree with that. it's a school though, isn't school of thought, though, isn't it? now, it? vaiews@gbnews.uk now, william have been william and kate have been in wales on standby. standby. let me tell you for some spectacular footage of the heir to the throne. i have not seen this footage yet, so i am hoping it isindeed footage yet, so i am hoping it is indeed spectacular. i don't footage yet, so i am hoping it is iidone spectacular. i don't footage yet, so i am hoping it is iidone undericular. i don't footage yet, so i am hoping it is iidone under their. i don't footage yet, so i am hoping it is iidone under the trade on't get done under the trade descriptions act. i'm patrick christys gb britain's christys on gb news britain's news .

join us here on gb news, the ieoiie-e— join us here on gb news, the reoiie-e .— join us here on gb news, the people's . channel welcome people's. channel welcome back. mowi— people's. channel welcome back. now o— people's. channel welcome back. n... o couple— people's. channel welcome back. now, a couple have— people's. channel welcome back. now, a couple have lost- people's. channel welcome back. now, a couple have lost their case against a school that forced their four year old child to take part in a pride parade. is he and steve montague say that they felt intimidated and discriminated against for challenging the school ? i am challenging the school? i am joined now by izzy motty . thank joined now by izzy motty. thank you very much, izzy. great to have you show. you have you on the show. can you just talk me through exactly what happened here then? so a four year old, four year four year old, your four year old time was what, forced old at the time was what, forced to take part in a pride event? go on. yeah. so at the beginning of go on. yeah. so at the beginning or june— go on. yeah. so at the beginning oi inne ,— go on. yeah. so at the beginning oi inne , inie— go on. yeah. so at the beginning of june , this was— cit» yeah. so at the beginning of june , this was 2018 and c»t» yeah. so at the beginning of june , this was 2018 and the of june, this was 2018 and the eenooi— of june, this was 2018 and the school heavers_ of june, this was 2018 and the school heavers farm decided that new— school heavers farm decided that new wee— school heavers farm decided that new going— school heavers farm decided that they were going to— school heavers farm decided that they were going to celebrate ieii— they were going to celebrate ieii iriie— they were going to celebrate lgbt pride month. “»tg “pi: : lgbt pride month. they had done other things before , but in june other things before, but in june they decided that they wanted to

do lgbt pride and lgbt pride ball and they decided to tell parents on a school blog and they gave a very open, you know, like you know, candid form of why they were doing it. it was about the history of lgbt stonewall and that they were quite proud to do it. and at the end of the month, they were going to do a pride parade and invite all the parents along to do this. um, and then as a resin— do this. um, and then as a reewii oi— do this. um, and then as a result of that,— do this. um, and then as a result of that, i— »:it» um, and then as a result of that, i only found out at result of that, i only found out oi ine— result of that, i only found out oi ine ioei— result of that, i only found out at the last minute— result of that, i only found out at the last minute and that's wnen— at the last minute and that's wnen i— at the last minute and that's when i decided— at the last minute and that's when i decided that it wasn't eoneining— when i decided that it wasn't something that— when i decided that it wasn't something that we could do. so why.— something that we could do. so whvr why— something that we could do. so whvr why noi— something that we could do. so why, why not then?— something that we could do. so why, why not then? so,- something that we could do. fltr�*7 so, so something that we could do. it7 so, so go something that we could do. sc"? so, so go on. why, why not then? so, so go on. just eoiioin— why, why not then? so, so go on. just eoiioin io— why, why not then? so, so go on. just explain to me— why, why not then? so, so go on. just explain to me why- sc"? so, so go on. just explain to me why not. ieeowee— just explain to me why not. because as i'm— just explain to me why not. because as i'm sure you're aware , ieoiie— because as i'm sure you're aware , some people might be watching this , some people might be watching inn-inning,— , some people might be watching this-thinking, well,- , some people might be watching this thinking, well, you this now and thinking, well, you know— this now and thinking, well, you know ,— this now and thinking, well, you know , wow-re— this now and thinking, well, you know , you're homophobic . know, you're homophobic. um, no, we oiwiowoiw. — know, you're homophobic. um, no, we oiwiowoiw. we— know, you're homophobic. um, no, we obviously, we were we're christian, so it's not something that we would ever celebrate. it's not anything that i have ever known any christian to

celebrate. so obvious . albie it celebrate. so obvious. albie it was, you know, going to be a no straight away. and we just thought that the school was going to respect our christian views. they had respected other people's views when they don't want to take part in religious , want to take part in religious, you know, anything that they've done at the school like that. so easter parades, nativity , as easter parades, nativity, as they've always said that, you know , people can object and know, people can object and remove themselves from anything like that. so we just thought it would be the same for us. and clearly it wasn't . and it just clearly it wasn't. and it just went, you know, completely out of hand . and, um, to the point of hand. and, um, to the point that we went to a school meeting , we were told that we were homophobic. but head headteacher's daughter wore a lovely t to shirt the meeting, just basically telling us that we should be quiet for now because we were show ing, homophobic, transphobic views. um and so we decided because yeah , well, yeah. i mean the

yeah, well, yeah. i mean the owerorening— yeah, well, yeah. i mean the overarching view— yeah, well, yeah. i mean the overarching view on- imean the overarching view on this i suppose— overarching view on this i suppose ie— overarching view on this i suppose is that for parents who ion-i— suppose is that for parents who ion-i woni— suppose is that for parents who ion-i woni o— suppose is that for parents who don't want a very— suppose is that for parents who don't want a very young child wno— don't want a very young child wno i— don't want a very young child wno i iowii— don't want a very young child who i doubt is— don't want a very young child who i doubt is of— don't want a very young child who i doubt is of an age to wniereioni— who i doubt is of an age to understand really any of this , understand really any of this, to understand really any of this, io ioie— understand really any of this, io ioie ion— understand really any of this, to take part in— understand really any of this, to take part in it,— understand really any of this, to take part in it, that iorenioi— to take part in it, that parental decision about the niiringing— parental decision about the niiringing oi— parental decision about the upbringing of your child was ioien— upbringing of your child was ioien owi— upbringing of your child was taken out of— upbringing of your child was taken out of your hands. upbringing of your child was taken out of your hands . “41th?" taken out of your hands. yeah, correei— taken out of your hands. yeah, oorreei . wno — taken out of your hands. yeah, correct . and this— taken out of your hands. yeah, correct . and this was followed correct. and this was followed through with the court case that we you know, the verdict that we just received . um, basically , just received. um, basically, you send your child to school and they can do whatever they want with your child. um, and if that is, you know, something that is, you know, something that they deem as homophobic , that they deem as homophobic, transphobic or or anything , then transphobic or or anything, then that that's their decision to make, not yours as a parent. but where does this end then? so ieo-e— but where does this end then? so iei-e iner— but where does this end then? so ier-e ioei oow— but where does this end then? so let's just say that— but where does this end then? so let's just say that that you iiin-i— let's just say that that you iiin-i woni— let's just say that that you didn't want your child to attend an didn't want your child to attend on eveni— didn't want your child to attend on eweni oi— didn't want your child to attend on eweni oi o— didn't want your child to attend an event at a school hosted by a irog—

an event at a school hosted by a dog geen— an event at a school hosted by a dog gneen ior— an event at a school hosted by a drag queen, for example , who drag queen, for example, who noiienei— drag queen, for example, who noiieneo g,— drag queen, for example, who noiieneo io, wow— drag queen, for example, who happened to, you know, be in a eioie— happened to, you know, be in a eioie oi— happened to, you know, be in a state of undress— happened to, you know, be in a state of undress .— happened to, you know, be in a state of undress . what this state of undress. what this ireeeieni— state of undress. what this precedent means that you ireennoiiw— precedent means that you presumably would face punishment if presumably would face punishment ii wow— presumably would face punishment ii wow iiin-i— presumably would face punishment if you didn't want— presumably would face punishment if you didn't want your child to iooi— if you didn't want your child to iooi oi— if you didn't want your child to iooi oi inor— if you didn't want your child to iooi oi inoi .— if you didn't want your child to look at that . correct t“ look at that. correct the mean who— look at that. correct the mean what the judge basically said was that, um , the school, you was that, um, the school, you know, were very proud of celebrating lgbt. there was never a question that they were celebrating it. but it was bizarre . when we got to court, bizarre. when we got to court, they they decided that they weren't celebrating it because they realised the implications of celebrating and celebrating lgbt pride of what that could do to somebody like ourselves who are christian. so the court case was very much based around denying that that's what they were doing . so the ruling is were doing. so the ruling is still very much based in law that you can't celebrate this, especially if it goes against

the parental wishes. but like i said, the school went to court and denied that this is what they were doing right. and just just finally, they were doing right. and just ioei finallyr ii— they were doing right. and just just finally, if that's— they were doing right. and just just finally, if that's all- just finally, if that's all igni— just finally, if that's all ngn, inw— just finally, if that's all right, izzy, so- just finally, if that's all right, izzy, so do you feel that as a christian,— right, izzy, so do you feel that as a christian, your beliefs were are ignored and actually ioieniioiiw— were are ignored and actually potentially patronised and responded— potentially patronised and responded to— potentially patronised and responded to with hatred ? responded to with hatred? correei. — responded to with hatred? correct. and _ responded to with hatred? correct. and the— responded to with hatred? correct. and the school did that and so did you know, the judge? the judge very much, you know, made a mockery out of our beliefs, claiming that, you know, we do celebrate lgbt as part of our christian beliefs. and therefore, the school did nothing wrong. so it it's very much those who are in positions who should be protecting our children . and our laws are children. and our laws are basically just, you know, using their position to override parents. yeah. and i think as well a mock up of it. der der dare i say it as— well a mock up of it. der der dare i say it as well,- well a mock up of it. der der dare i say it as well, i- f t. c der der dare i say it as well, i think weing— dare i say it as well, i think using children— dare i say it as well, i think using children as a battering

io— using children as a battering ram to hammer— using children as a battering ram to hammer through their own winne— ram to hammer through their own winne eignoiiing— ram to hammer through their own virtue signalling ideology ogenio— virtue signalling ideology ogenio .— virtue signalling ideology agenda . yeah, exactly that look. agenda. yeah, exactly that look. inoni— agenda. yeah, exactly that look. inoni wow— agenda. yeah, exactly that look. inoni you vew— agenda. yeah, exactly that look. thank you very much. to great nove— thank you very much. to great nowe wow— thank you very much. to great nowe won on— thank you very much. to great have you on the— thank you very much. to great have you on the show. chat soon oni— have you on the show. chat soon oni ioie— have you on the show. chat soon oni ioie core— have you on the show. chat soon and take care. all— have you on the show. chat soon and take care. all right. that is izzy— and take care. all right. that is izzy inere. — and take care. all right. that is izzy there. izzy— and take care. all right. that is izzy there. izzy montague, wnoee— is izzy there. izzy montague, wnoee ioni— is izzy there. izzy montague, whose four year— is izzy there. izzy montague, whose four year old child at the rime— whose four year old child at the rime-opioreniiw— time was apparently anyway ioreei— time was apparently anyway ioreei-ion- time was apparently anyway forced-part in- time was apparently anyway forced part in some kind forced to take part in some kind of forced to take part in some kind oi iriie— forced to take part in some kind oi irioe eveni— forced to take part in some kind of pride event right now, the prince— of pride event right now, the wince—oi- of pride event right now, the| prince _of wales of pride event right now, the- prince _of wales uh, prince and princess of wales uh, sorry,— prince and princess of wales uh, eorrw in— prince and princess of wales uh, sorry, are in wales.— prince and princess of wales uh, sorry, are in wales. i should say,— sorry, are in wales. i should oow oni— sorry, are in wales. i should say, and they've— sorry, are in wales. i should say, and they've been in merthyr iwiiii— say, and they've been in merthyr tydfil roiow— say, and they've been in merthyr tydfil today-visit— say, and they've been in merthyr tydfil today visit the tydfil today to visit the ceniroi— tydfil today to visit the central beacons mountain rescue ieon — central beacons mountain rescue ieon io— central beacons mountain rescue ieon io noni— central beacons mountain rescue team to mark the— central beacons mountain rescue team to mark the organisation's eeri— team to mark the organisation's oorn iinniow— team to mark the organisation's 60th birthday and— team to mark the organisation's 60th birthday and the royal eowiie— 60th birthday and the royal eooiie nei— 60th birthday and the royal couple met mountain rescue woiwnieere— couple met mountain rescue volunteers and— couple met mountain rescue volunteers and even a hand volunteers and even had a hand at volunteers and even had a hand oi oieeiiing. — volunteers and even had a hand at abseiling. gosh— volunteers and even had a hand at abseiling. gosh there you go. inoi-e— at abseiling. gosh there you go. that's-spectacular- that's the spectacular footage onene— there. they are abseiling and new— there. they are abseiling and inew-ore— there. they are abseiling and they are meeting they currently are meeting eiiniere— they currently are meeting climbers and _ they currently are meeting climbers and community members this climbers and community members one evening— climbers and community members one evening or— climbers and community members this evening at the— climbers and community members this evening at the nearby iowioie— this evening at the nearby dowlais rugby— this evening at the nearby dowlais rugby club. and the weir— dowlais rugby club. and the wieiiloi— dowlais rugby club. and the visit-of special— dowlais rugby club. and the visit of special importance visit is of special importance to visit is of special importance io-wiiiion,— visit is of special importance to-william, who- visit is of special importance to william, who worked as to prince william, who worked as an to prince william, who worked as on wir— to prince william, who worked as on ion eeoren— to prince william, who worked as an raf search and— to prince william, who worked as an raf search and rescue pilot ieiore— an raf search and rescue pilot before becoming— an raf search and rescue pilot before becoming senior royal before becoming a senior royal to before becoming a senior royal io give— before becoming a senior royal io giwe we— before becoming a senior royal io giwe we ine— before becoming a senior royal to give us the latest is gb news is to give us the latest is gb news is royal— to give us the latest is gb news is royal reioner— to give us the latest is gb news is royal reporter is— to give us the latest is gb news is 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wales this this spectacular wieii .— wales this this spectacular wieii . — wales this this spectacular visit . absolutely,- wales this this spectacular visit . ' attg f “cit? visit. absolutely, patrick yes, good afternoon. i mean, it's a very wet and windy day here in wales and the theme is very much been one of outdoor adventure for the prince and princess as they have been spotted, as you have seen in the footage, abseiling down a cliff in what used to be called the brecon beacons. now beacons . and now, beacons. now beacons. and now, of it's called bannau of course, it's called bannau brycheiniog park here brycheiniog national park here in wales. for those radio listeners , i would suggest you listeners, i would suggest you go on our social media channels and footage because and look at the footage because it a spectacular. but it really is a spectacular. but prince william and princess catherine much catherine are very much continuing their mission to deepen their understanding and try and get trust and respect of the people of wales meeting local local communities, finding out what really matters to them . and it's understood that they really want to be kind of ambassadors for the people of wales. but today they are celebrating the central beacons , mountain rescue teams, 60th anniversary. they've been doing abseiling , as you've seen in the abseiling, as you've seen in the pictures. they also had a go at medical support training and had

a with dogs, a demonstration with dogs, search and rescue as well. they saw some of that . prince william saw some of that. prince william is, of course, patron of the mountain rescue of england and wales and its exercises he will be very familiar with because, of course, back in the day, he was an air ambulance pilot himself and an raf rescue, search and rescue helicopter. now, here behind me is very busy. you may see some kids in the who have rushed the background who have rushed from be because from school to be here because the princess of wales the prince and princess of wales are do a walkabout are expected to do a walkabout at this just outside this local rugby club here, because this is where the mountain rescue people come to hang out after a day's work in the national park. and prince william and princess catherine actually arrived with lots of pizzas because there's a little dragon pizza van in the car park and they bought 12 pizzas. and i've got the order here, three margaritas, three pepperoni, three barbecue chickens and three goat's cheese. that's more than £120 worth of pizzas . cheese. that's more than £120 worth of pizzas. i cheese. that's more than £120 worth of pizzas . i actually worth of pizzas. i actually tried some of it a little bit

earlier and it's spectacular. pizza patrick, i have to say. so as they gone into the community centre, they are thanking the workers , meeting their families workers, meeting their families and then as i said, they are going to be expected to do a walkabout meeting. the people of wales before they go off to , to, wales before they go off to, to, to have a night here in wales and then they'll be continuing on with more engagements tomorrow . so two day visits for tomorrow. so two day visits for the prince and princess. so fantastic. i must say i so fantastic. i must say i am inereiiiiw— fantastic. i must say i am incredibly jealous of the pizza inor— incredibly jealous of the pizza inoi oe— incredibly jealous of the pizza that was dished— incredibly jealous of the pizza that was dished out there. so were— that was dished out there. so inere wow— that was dished out there. so inere you go— that was dished out there. so inere wow go .— that was dished out there. so there you go . cameron great there you go. cameron great eiwii— there you go. cameron great stuff. hopefully— there you go. cameron great stuff. hopefully it makes up for us stuff. hopefully it makes up for we noiing— stuff. hopefully it makes up for we noiing wow— stuff. hopefully it makes up for us making you out in the stuff. hopefully it makes up for us nforing you out in the stuff. hopefully it makes up for us nfor most u out in the stuff. hopefully it makes up for us nfor most of out in the stuff. hopefully it makes up for us nfor most of the out in the stuff. hopefully it makes up for us nfor most of the day. in the stuff. hopefully it makes up for us nfor most of the day. comet rain for most of the day. come oni— rain for most of the day. come one—ei- rain for most of the day. come one—oi viewel rain for most of the day. come and—gb views is and wahaca there gb views is rowoi—eowreel royal reporter and of course we-ii— royal reporter and of course we-ii-o- royal reporter and of course we-ii-oioi- we'll be seeing a lot of cameron, won't we, across this enonnei— cameron, won't we, across this enonnei-geor— cameron, won't we, across this enonnei-geor wi- cameron, won't we, across this channel gear up for the channel as we gear up for the coronoiion— channel as we gear up for the coronation now— channel as we gear up for the coronation now on, here's coronation now moving on, here's wnoi—in- coronation now moving on, here's wnoi—in inel what i've got coming up in the new— what i've got coming up in the new-ire— what i've got coming up in the next-it's official- what i've got coming up in the next it's official britain next hour. it's official britain is next hour. it's official britain ie one— next hour. it's official britain ie oi— next hour. it's official britain ie oi ine— next hour. it's official britain is one of the least racist owririee— is one of the least racist countries in— is one of the least racist countries in the world. i'll be ioiiing— countries in the world. i'll be rowing-oi- countries in the world. i'll be talking-of that- talking about all of that iwiiwing— talking about all of that- bullying—lobbied bullying accusations lobbied onoiner— bullying accusations lobbied onoeiwii— bullying accusations lobbied ano civil service— bullying accusations lobbied ano civil service and much, much the civil service and much, much more. i'm patrick— the civil service and much, much more. i'm patrick christys on gb wewe— more. i'm patrick christys on gb wewe oni— more. i'm patrick christys on gb wewe oni we— more. i'm patrick christys on gb news and we are— more. i'm patrick christys on gb news and we are britain's news.

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covid—19 apathy as well. yes so opioreniiw— covid—19 apathy as well. yes so apparently pimple— covid—19 apathy as well. yes so apparently people in scotland just apparently people in scotland iwei ion-i— apparently people in scotland just don't really— apparently people in scotland just don't really about just don't really care about the ion— just don't really care about the ioe—o- fact that we've got a combination- fact that we've got a i combination-up. fact that we've got a combination-up. you combination coming up. do you core— combination coming up. do you eorei-inini— combination coming up. do you care?-think people- combination coming up. do you care? think people are care? do you think people are ieing— care? do you think people are ieinglioo— care? do you think people are being too miserable being far too miserable or not? we-we— being far too miserable or not? we've-fantastic- being far too miserable or not? we've fantastic vox we've got some fantastic vox pops— we've got some fantastic vox pope—seoiionil we've got some fantastic vox. pops—scotland and pops for people in scotland and it pops for people in scotland and iilweii— pops for people in scotland and iilweii ii— pops for people in scotland and iilweii ii-oe— pops for people in scotland and itlwell, it-as-wouldl it is well, it went as you would expen— it is well, it went as you would eoieei onwwow— it is well, it went as you would expect anyway. christys expect anyway. patrick christys on— vei- expect anyway. patrick christys on— vei eer- expect anyway. patrick christys on— vei eer wowr| on gb news is. yep get your iee— on gb news is. yep get your coming— on gb news is. yep get your views coming in.— on gb news is. yep get your views coming in. gb views our gb wewe— views coming in. gb views our gb wewe wi— views coming in. gb views our gb wewe ii iooie— views coming in. gb views our gb news .uk loads coming your way this news .uk loads coming your way one now.— news .uk loads coming your way one now. we— news .uk loads coming your way this hour. it's official. iriioin— this hour. it's official. britain is— this hour. it's official. britain is not- this hour. it's official. britain is not really a racist eownirw— britain is not really a racist eownirw oi— britain is not really a racist country at all.— britain is not really a racist country at all. so you know, nove— country at all. so you know, nowe inor— country at all. so you know, have that gbviews@gbnews.uk back now have that gbviews@gbnews.uk back inowgn— have that gbviews@gbnews.uk back now though, headlines with polly . roiriei. — now though, headlines with polly . patrick. thank— now though, headlines with polly . patrick. thank you.— now though, headlines with polly . patrick. “rte/m“ . patrick. thank you. the top stories at 5:00. the foreign secretary says the government's continuing to assist british nationals in leaving sudan and he's urged them to make their way to the airport for evacuation as soon as possible . evacuation as soon as possible. british forces are racing to rescue as many people as they can before the ceasefire ends. tonight at more than 530 british citizens have been flown to

safety as of yesterday evening. the government says there are more yet to come. 16,000 people have fled sudan across the border into egypt, including 14,000 sudanese. speaking in the house of commons, james cleverly said the uk was also looking into helping countries with no diplomat presence in the country . for those on the ground, as you— . for those on the ground, as wow wowii— . for those on the ground, as you would expect,— for those on the ground, as you would expect, we are prioriiieei— you would expect, we are prioritised aiding those in greoieei— prioritised aiding those in greatest need— prioritised aiding those in greatest need through allocating eeoie— greatest need through allocating eeoie ioeei— greatest need through allocating seats based on— greatest need through allocating seats based on vulnerability, eioning— seats based on vulnerability, eroning wiri— seats based on vulnerability, starting with families, with eniiiren— starting with families, with eniiiren ,— starting with families, with children , the— starting with families, with children , the elderly, the children, the elderly, the iieoiiei— children, the elderly, the disabled or— children, the elderly, the disabled or people with documented— disabled or people with documented medical conditions . documented medical conditions. as documented medical conditions. we we— documented medical conditions. we we nove— documented medical conditions. as we have been— documented medical conditions. as we have been notifying , as we have been notifying, iriiien— as we have been notifying, british nationals registered wiri— british nationals registered wiin we— british nationals registered with us about— british nationals registered with us about the about the ewoewoiion— with us about the about the evacuation flights as well as onoig— evacuation flights as well as announcing them through our irowei— announcing them through our travel advice— announcing them through our travel advice and also through orgonie— travel advice and also through organic social— travel advice and also through organic social media networks of iriiien— organic social media networks of british nationals— organic social media networks of british nationals in— organic social media networks of british nationals in sudan . british nationals in sudan. wen.— british nationals in sudan. weii. new— british nationals in sudan. well, news here— british nationals in sudan. well, news here at- british nationals in sudan. well, news here at home, a murder investigation has been launched into the death of a pregnant teacher in glasgow .

pregnant teacher in glasgow. morrell sturrock was found dead on tuesday morning. she was 29 weeks pregnant. her baby didn't survive. there's now a manhunt underway for her fiance, david yates . his underway for her fiance, david yates. his car underway for her fiance, david yates . his car was found at yates. his car was found at mugdock country park where police are now focusing their search strike action planned by the royal college of nursing for the royal college of nursing for the 2nd of may would be unlawful . a high court judge has ruled the rcn six month mandate for strike action will have lapsed by tuesday . protests by nurses by tuesday. protests by nurses have been taking place outside the court with signs reading, silencing nurses is silencing patients . the chs general patients. the chs general secretary, pat cullen, says the government has lost trust of nurses and the public. this is the darkest day— nurses and the public. this is the darkest day in— nurses and the public. this is the darkest day in this- it“: c this is the darkest day in this dispute so the darkest day in this dispute eo ior— the darkest day in this dispute eo ior. — the darkest day in this dispute eo ior. anv— the darkest day in this dispute so far. ' "g d the darkest day in this dispute so far. "e d so far. any government that would drag their nursing staff off through the courts , they've off through the courts, they've won their legal battle today . won their legal battle today. but what this has led to is they've lost nursing and they've lost the public. they've taken

the most trusted profession through the courts , by the least through the courts, by the least trusted people . well, the labour trusted people. well, the labour leader, sir keir starmer, is urging the government to resolve the pay dispute . the nurses the pay dispute. the nurses don't the pay dispute. the nurses ion-i woni— the pay dispute. the nurses don't want to _ the pay dispute. the nurses don't want to be _ the pay dispute. the nurses don't want to be on- the nurses don't want to be on strike. they woni— don't want to be on strike. they woni o— don't want to be on strike. they want a government— don't want to be on strike. they want a government that's negoiioiing— want a government that's negotiating and talking to them, not negotiating and talking to them, noi ioiing— negotiating and talking to them, not taking them _ negotiating and talking to them, not taking them to court . negotiating and talking to them, not taking them to court. i inini— not taking them to court. i own noei— not taking them to court. i think most people scratching ineir— think most people scratching ineir neoi— think most people scratching their head and— think most people scratching their head and saying instead of going— their head and saying instead of going-cowo— their head and saying instead of goingleownlgei- their head and saying instead of going court, get on with going to court, just get on with reeoiwing— going to court, just get on with resolving underlying issues resolving the underlying issues inew-we— resolving the underlying issues they've created,— resolving the underlying issues they've created, the conditions inor— they've created, the conditions inoi-nwge— they've created, the conditions that huge pressure that have put huge pressure on ieoiie— that have put huge pressure on ieoiie ieeowee— that have put huge pressure on people because the economy noen-i— people because the economy hasn't worked— people because the economy hasn't worked for over a decade ironw— hasn't worked for over a decade iionw ieoiie— hasn't worked for over a decade now. many people have had eiognoni— now. many people have had stagnant wages.— now. many people have had stagnant wages. their living eioniorie— stagnant wages. their living standards have— stagnant wages. their living standards have gone down, not up. standards have gone down, not go so— standards have gone down, not we so ine— standards have gone down, not up. so the government had bears a up. so the government had bears o neoww— up. so the government had bears a heavy responsibility. and i inini— a heavy responsibility. and i own noei— a heavy responsibility. and i think most people get think most people would say get on wiri— think most people would say get on wiin n,— think most people would say get on wiin n, gei— think most people would say get on with it, get round the table oni— on with it, get round the table one-ineee— on with it, get round the table and-these issues- on with it, get round the table and these issues as and resolve these issues as weii— and resolve these issues as well. schools— and resolve these issues as well. schools in— and resolve these issues as well. schools in england are ioeing— well. schools in england are facing disruption today as tens of thousands— facing disruption today as tens of thousands of— facing disruption today as tens of thousands of teachers have gone— of thousands of teachers have gone on— of thousands of teachers have gone on strike. _ of thousands of teachers have gone on strike. \» gone on strike. national education union members have walked out over pay year 11 and year 13. classes are being prioritised with exams just weeks away. but more strikes

have been announced for the summer term after union members rejected the government's pay offer. joint general secretary offer. joint general secretary of the new mary bousted says teachers are experiencing hardship, got teachers who are skipping meals. we've got teachers not heating their homes, we've got teachers taking on second jobs when they already work the most unpaid overtime of all professions. that's the reoiiiw— all professions. that's the reoiiiw oi— all professions. that's the reality of what— that's the reality of what teachers are gang,— reality of what teachers are gang, oni — reality of what teachers are facing, and that— reality of what teachers are facing, and that is what the gowernneni— facing, and that is what the government has— facing, and that is what the government has to face. that reoiiiw. — government has to face. that reoiiiw. ii— government has to face. that reoiirw. ii we— government has to face. that reality. if we want a well—educated , nana nation reality. if we want a— well—educated , nana nation and well—educated, nana nation and if well—educated, nana nation and ii we— well—educated, nana nation and ii we woni— well—educated, nana nation and ii we woni ine— well—educated, nana nation and if we want the education that our children— if we want the education that our children deserve and the asiir— our children deserve and the asiir wnion— our children deserve and the aslef union has— our children deserve and the aslef union has announced its iroin— aslef union has announced its iroin iriwere— aslef union has announced its train drivers will— aslef union has announced its train drivers will stage three eiriiee— train drivers will stage three new strikes in— train drivers will stage three new strikes in their long rwnning— new strikes in their long running dispute over pay . running dispute over pay. two of the running dispute over pay. two of one woiiowie— running dispute over pay. two of the walkouts will— running dispute over pay. two of the walkouts will happen in may and one will take place on the 3rd of june. that's the day of the fa cup final and all that after the union rejected a 4% pay after the union rejected a 4% pay offer for the government's announced today . it's pay offer for the government's announced today. it's unveiling its biggest shake up of gambling in the uk in 15 years. it says

it aims to redress the power in balance between punters and operators as checks to better protect even those unable to afford small losses are among the plans , as well as maximum the plans, as well as maximum stakes for online slot machines. culture secretary lucy frazer says it'll also help prevent gambling addiction . and as gambling addiction. and as you've been hearing, the us talk show host jerry springer has died at the age of 79. he was a prominent figure on american television networks for nearly three decades, is best known for showcasing everyday family dramas on his show, television was his second career. he was previously a politician and even served as mayor of cincinnati . served as mayor of cincinnati. at one point, the british american passed away peacefully at his home in chicago, jerry spfingen at his home in chicago, jerry springer, who died today at the age of 79. you with gb news. more news in half an hour.

now back to the news that we brought you a little earlier in the show. and sadly, jerry springer,— the show. and sadly, jerry springer, ine— the show. and sadly, jerry springer, the tv- and sadly, jerry springer, the tv host who oieoiwieiw— springer, the tv host who absolutely revelled organised the absolutely revelled organised ine-gone- absolutely revelled organised the game forever, has the talk show game forever, has iiei— the talk show game forever, has iiei oi— the talk show game forever, has iiei oi ine— the talk show game forever, has died at the age— the talk show game forever, has died at the age of— the talk show game forever, has died at the age of 79. his show , wnion— died at the age of 79. his show , wnion non— died at the age of 79. his show , which ran for— died at the age of 79. his show , which ran for 27— died at the age of 79. his show , which ran for 27 seasons. iienoor— , which ran for 27 seasons. pienaar weird,— , which ran for 27 seasons. pienaar weird, inviting everyday ieoiie— pienaar weird, inviting everyday ieoiie on— pienaar weird, inviting everyday ieoiie on oe— pienaar weird, inviting everyday people on as guests. i think ewerw— people on as guests. i think ewerw oow— people on as guests. i think ewerw oow ie— people on as guests. i think every day is stretching it eiigniiw.— every day is stretching it eiignriw. iwi— every day is stretching it slightly. but there we go and onion— slightly. but there we go and confront eating— slightly. but there we go and confront eating them with the ieoiie— confront eating them with the ieoiie inor— confront eating them with the people that they— confront eating them with the people that they betrayed or nwn— people that they betrayed or hurt-whatever— people that they betrayed or hurt whatever they'd done. hurt or whatever they'd done. woer— hurt or whatever they'd done. iioei oiien— hurt or whatever they'd done. most often their— hurt or whatever they'd done. most often their partners and ewerw— most often their partners and ewew enow— most often their partners and every show started with a bang .

hey, how are you, jerry ? oh, hey, how are you, jerry? oh, eorrw— hey, how are you, jerry? oh, eorrw. ani— hey, how are you, jerry? oh, sorry. and and— hey, how are you, jerry? oh, sorry. and and once the show got going,— sorry. and and once the show got going, ininge— sorry. and and once the show got going, things tended to become a iiiiie— going, things tended to become a iiiiie iii— going, things tended to become a little bit feisty— going, things tended to become a little bit feisty as— going, things tended to become a little bit feisty as well . gary little bit feisty as well. gary ionn— little bit feisty as well. gary iorin wnon— little bit feisty as well. gary iorin wnon ,— little bit feisty as well. gary karim khan , gary, gary, hold on. karim khan, gary, gary, hold on. ioii— karim khan, gary, gary, hold on. noii on.— karim khan, gary, gary, hold on. noii ioii— karim khan, gary, gary, hold on. hold on, hold up,— karim khan, gary, gary, hold on. hold on, hold up, marlin.- karim khan, gary, gary, hold on. hold on, hold up, marlin. it- hold on, hold up, marlin. it ain't even what you think. okay, i ain't even what you think. okay, i oe— ain't even what you think. okay, i in— ain't even what you think. okay, i in oni— ain't even what you think. okay, i was in and out— ain't even what you think. okay, i was in and out .— ain't even what you think. okay, i was in and out . you mean you i was in and out. you mean you in oni— i was in and out. you mean you were in and out? _ i was in and out. you mean you were in and out? i— i was in and out. you mean you were in and out? you were in and out? i was out. you ioiiei— were in and out? i was out. you ioiieo owi— were in and out? i was out. you tapped out before— were in and out? i was out. you tapped out before ?_ were in and out? i was out. you tapped out before ? i— were in and out? you tapped out before ? i did . now, tapped out before? i did. now, why— tapped out before? i did. now, wnw iii— tapped out before? i did. now, wnw iii wow— tapped out before? i did. now, wnw iii wow iie— tapped out before? i did. now, why did you lie about it, sean ? why did you lie about it, sean? veon— why did you lie about it, sean? veon .— why did you lie about it, sean? veon . wnw— why did you lie about it, sean? veon . wnw iii— why did you lie about it, sean? yeah . why did you— why did you lie about it, sean? yeah . why did you lie- why did you lie about it, sean? yeah . why did you lie about his yeah. why did you lie about his show ? because i know you get show? because i know you get ieoiowe— show? because i know you get ieoiowe oi— show? because i know you get ieoiowe oi ii— show? because i know you get ieoiowe oi ii ,— show? because i know you get jealous of it , man.— 7 because i know you get jealous of it, man. don't give me— jealous of it, man. don't give me inoi. — jealous of it, man. don't give me that. you're— jealous of it, man. don't give me that. /»t». ”»t; jealous of it, man. don't give me that. v/»t». ”»t; mfg me that. you're jealous. maybe i won't be angry like this if you weren't trying to steal my girlfriend finds each other on national television. come on. anyway, we won't see any of that anymore. let's give us his reaction to this story. is the host of the politics people podcast is paul dodger as he

joins us from stateside. there we obviously , you we go. look, obviously, you know, sad news of the passing of jerry springer, but a wonderful opportunity, if ever we needed one hail how his show one to hail. how iconic his show actually was. i mean, very, very rarely i think these days would you ever see a show that centres around two, you know, i suppose maybe people trailer trash fighting each other on national television. there we go. i said it, i said it. i said it. how do you how do you react to the sad loss trailer? these are my ieowe.— loss trailer? these are my ieoiie. wnoi— loss trailer? these are my people. what are- ”it7 these are my people. what are you talking oiowii— people. what are you talking about? these— people. what are you talking about? these are the people i grew— about? these are the people i grew wi— about? these are the people i grew wi oong— about? these are the people i grew up among. oh believe me, i— grew up among. oh believe me, i ieii— grew up among. oh believe me, i ieii wow.— grew up among. oh believe me, we. i tell you, we— grew up among. oh believe me, we. t c t we. i tell you, we didn't even have the wheels on our trailer. it was a shed. but the thing oiowi— it was a shed. but the thing oiowi nin — it was a shed. but the thing about him that— it was a shed. but the thing about him that he did creatively andr— about him that he did creatively oni, wow— about him that he did creatively ono, wow know— about him that he did creatively ono, wow inow ,— about him that he did creatively and, you know , there's a lot of and, you know, there's a lot of ieoiie— and, you know, there's a lot of ieoiie rwrn— and, you know, there's a lot of people turn their— and, you know, there's a lot of people turn their nose up at inie— people turn their nose up at one wni— people turn their nose up at this kind of— people turn their nose up at this kind of content is that he eenirei— this kind of content is that he eenirei reoi— this kind of content is that he centred real people's voices in an entertainment— centred real people's voices in an entertainment format. centred real people's voices in an entertainment format . up an entertainment format. up wniii— an entertainment format. up wniii inie— an entertainment format. up until this point,— an entertainment format. up until this point, you just had eon— until this point, you just had eon oi— until this point, you just had eon oi ioen— until this point, you just had sort of posh sociological major oni— sort of posh sociological major and professors— sort of posh sociological major and professors studying these

ieoiie— and professors studying these ieoiie oe— and professors studying these people as opposed to actually giving— people as opposed to actually giwing onen— people as opposed to actually giwing inen o— people as opposed to actually giving them a voice. and it it worked. — giving them a voice. and it it worked. i— giving them a voice. and it it worked. i mean,— giving them a voice. and it it worked. i mean, 27 seasons, as wow— worked. i mean, 27 seasons, as wow an,— worked. i mean, 27 seasons, as wow an, new— worked. i mean, 27 seasons, as you said, they had— worked. i mean, 27 seasons, as you said, they had to take the enow— you said, they had to take the enow oii— you said, they had to take the enow oii in— you said, they had to take the show off in the— you said, they had to take the show off in the end. but there oiwowe— show off in the end. but there oiwowe on— show off in the end. but there was always an audience for it. ani— was always an audience for it. no inie— was always an audience for it. no one oe— was always an audience for it. and this was this— was always an audience for it. and this was this predates reoiiiw— and this was this predates reality predates, know, reality tv predates, you know, iein— reality tv predates, you know, irexii.—iieo- reality tv predates, you know, brexit._idea of- reality tv predates, you know,| brexit._idea of real brexit. trump the idea of real ieoiie-e— brexit. trump the idea of real ieoiie-e woieee— brexit. trump the idea of real people's voices being actually oeeeeeiiie— people's voices being actually accessible on— people's voices being actually accessible on a— people's voices being actually accessible on a mass medium is wnoi— accessible on a mass medium is wnoi ne— accessible on a mass medium is what he brought— accessible on a mass medium is what he brought it— accessible on a mass medium is what he brought it in. he iniiioie— what he brought it in. he initiate did— what he brought it in. he initiate did that and he did it ieowiiiwiiw— initiate did that and he did it beautifully in— initiate did that and he did it beautifully in some way. "

eneo- ine— were fully in on the entertainment, on the joke. i ion-i— entertainment, on the joke. i ion-i inini— entertainment, on the joke. i don't think he— entertainment, on the joke. i don't think he was cruel or high noniei— don't think he was cruel or high handed about— don't think he was cruel or high handed about it.— don't think he was cruel or high handed about it. i— don't think he was cruel or high handed about it. i don't think he humiliated— handed about it. i don't think he humiliated people. he just gove— he humiliated people. he just gowe o— he humiliated people. he just gowe o iwii— he humiliated people. he just gave a full, unedited outlet for ieoiie— gave a full, unedited outlet for ieoiie io— gave a full, unedited outlet for ieoiie ro ie— gave a full, unedited outlet for people to be able— gave a full, unedited outlet for people to be able to air their gieonee— people to be able to air their grievances again.— people to be able to air their grievances again. as i said, iwei— grievances again. as i said, iwei eo— grievances again. as i said, we're just so used to, if you iwe,— we're just so used to, if you like, absurd— we're just so used to, if you like, absurd ,— we're just so used to, if you like, absurd , loud chattering like, absurd, loud chattering eioee— like, absurd, loud chattering eioee wni— like, absurd, loud chattering class kind of— like, absurd, loud chattering class kind of entertainment that inor— class kind of entertainment that no iwei— class kind of entertainment that that just washes— class kind of entertainment that that just washes over us. it was one— that just washes over us. it was one ie— that just washes over us. it was one ie ewen— that just washes over us. it was this is such an— that just washes over us. it was this is such an affront to so nonw— this is such an affront to so nonw ieoiie-e— this is such an affront to so many people's sensitivities. wok,— many people's sensitivities. iooi, ire— many people's sensitivities. iooi, ii-e o— many people's sensitivities. look, it's a bit— many people's sensitivities. look, it's a bit like the lady cnoiieriew— look, it's a bit like the lady chatterley trial. _ look, it's a bit like the lady chatterley trial. if i can be a bit esoteric,— chatterley trial. if i can be a bit esoteric, you— chatterley trial. if i can be a bit esoteric, you know, would you— bit esoteric, you know, would wow-wow— bit esoteric, you know, would wow-wowr-or- bit esoteric, you know, would you your or servant you let your wife or servant reoi— you let your wife or servant ieoe—ire- you let your wife or servant reoi—ii-e iweii read this book? it's just like, no inormai- — read this book? it's just like, no , normal. people can't no, it's normal. people can't noniie— no, it's normal. people can't noniie inie— no, it's normal. people can't handle this kind— no, it's normal. people can't handle this kind of entertainment. it must be iiiierei— entertainment. it must be filtered _and- entertainment. it must be filtered and it's just filtered by us. and it's just iwe,— filtered by us. and it's just iwe-ii— filtered by us. and it's just like,-it was. - filtered by us. and it's just like,-it was. it- filtered by us. and it's just like, it was. it was if it like, no, it was. it was if it noon-i— like, no, it was. it was if it noon-i nove— like, no, it was. it was if it hadn't have worked, it wouldn't nove— hadn't have worked, it wouldn't nowe ioeiei— hadn't have worked, it wouldn't have lasted seasons. c have lasted 27 seasons. wasn't a ioo. ii— have lasted 27 seasons. wasn't a ioo. ii ie— have lasted 27 seasons. wasn't a ioo. ii ie on— have lasted 27 seasons. wasn't a 100. it is an iconic— have lasted 27 seasons. wasn't a 100. it is an iconic tv- have lasted 27 seasons. c �*00 it is an iconic tv show and 100. it is an iconic tv show and iooi— 100. it is an iconic tv show and iooi ior— 100. it is an iconic tv show and iooi ior nw— 100. it is an iconic tv show and look for my take— 100. it is an iconic tv show and look for my take on— �*00 it is an iconic tv show and look for my take on it. i do inini— look for my take on it. i do own ii— look for my take on it. i do think it was— look for my take on it. i do think it was exploitative. i do . i think it was exploitative. i do . i go. — think it was exploitative. i do . i go. iwi— think it was exploitative. i do . i go. iwi i— think it was exploitative. i do . i do. but i also— think it was exploitative. i do . i do. but i also think that ine— . i do. but i also think that we power— . i do. but i also think that the power when— . i do. but i also think that the power when it comes to this is the power when it comes to this ie wion— the power when it comes to this ie wiin ine— the power when it comes to this is with the audience. right. and the is with the audience. right. and we ioei— is with the audience. right. and we ioei ie— is with the audience. right. and the fact is that— is with the audience. right. and the fact is that clearly tens of niiiione— the fact is that clearly tens of niiiione oi— the fact is that clearly tens of millions of people didn't care oiowi— millions of people didn't care oiowi ine— millions of people didn't care

about the idea— millions of people didn't care about the idea maybe about the idea that maybe someone might about the idea that maybe- someone might-been someone might not have been oewieiw— someone might not have been oewieiw-oi— someone might not have been acutely-of how- someone might not have been acutely-of how far- acutely aware of how far reoening— acutely aware of how far reaching _withj reaching their fight with their eerer,— reaching their fight with their sister, _stripper,| sister, who's also a stripper, is sister, who's also a stripper, ie going— sister, who's also a stripper, ie going-gei— sister, who's also a stripper, is going get pumped out is going to get pumped out oowni— is going to get pumped out oowni ine— is going to get pumped out around the world. a particular rnorneni— around the world. a particular rnorneni in— around the world. a particular moment in time.— around the world. a particular moment in time. this show could ie— moment in time. this show could ie moie— moment in time. this show could never be made today, though, eowii— never be made today, though, eowii iii— never be made today, though, could it? even— never be made today, though, could it? even though even never be made today, though, could itit even though even never be made today, though, could itit isen though even never be made today, though, could itit is responsibleven never be made today, though, could itit is responsible for though it is responsible for a lot though it is responsible for a ior-ine— though it is responsible for a ioiline epin— though it is responsible for a lot-the spin offs- though it is responsible for a lot the spin offs . �*fir�*»t;cc lot of the spin offs. well, exoeiiw. — lot of the spin offs. well, exactly. well— lot of the spin offs. well, exactly. well look, you know, the famously they took off the that chap who seems to have gone into semi—retirement the british version. yes yeah . they don't version. yes yeah. they don't moie— version. yes yeah. they don't noie ineee— version. yes yeah. they don't make these kind— version. yes yeah. they don't make these kind of- yes yeah. they don't make these kind of shows. they won-i— make these kind of shows. they won-i moie— make these kind of shows. they won't make these— make these kind of shows. they won't make these kind of shows ieeowee— won't make these kind of shows because everything now is just eoniieieiw— because everything now is just eoniieieiw ,— because everything now is just eoniieieiw , wow— because everything now is just completely , you know, he did it. completely, you know, he did it. he completely, you know, he did it. we we— completely, you know, he did it. we geiiing— completely, you know, he did it. he was getting higher— completely, you know, he did it. he was getting higher ratings than oprah because there were so, so many fewer outlets then. now we have the tiktoks and the vowiwiee— now we have the tiktoks and the youtubes, etcetera— now we have the tiktoks and the youtubes, etcetera .— now we have the tiktoks and the youtubes, etcetera . yeah, youtubes, etcetera. yeah, onere-e— youtubes, etcetera. yeah, there's never— youtubes, etcetera. yeah, there's never going to be that eeniroi— there's never going to be that central focus— there's never going to be that central focus audience being oiie— central focus audience being oiie io— central focus audience being able to sustain— central focus audience being able to sustain there isn't able to sustain and there isn't ine— able to sustain and there isn't one-ior— able to sustain and there isn't one-ior ii— able to sustain and there isn't the _for it amongst. able to sustain and there isn't the for it amongst the the appetite for it amongst the geo— the appetite for it amongst the greoi oni— the appetite for it amongst the greoi oni ine— the appetite for it amongst the great and the good who decide on eonnieeioning— great and the good who decide on commissioning these. g commissioning these. the thing is commissioning these. the thing ie—ining— commissioning these. the thing ie—ining ie- commissioning these. the thing is thing is though is though, the thing is though money, money talks right. money talks. and the reality is and people might not like this , but

people might not like this, but the reality is, if you gave me a dna test and a lie detector test, every single day, at some point on this show, like it or lump it, we would get millions of viewers listen , i have i have of viewers listen, i have i have signed the petition to make that happen. about four times now. were— happen. about four times now. were on— happen. about four times now. we're all you've— happen. about four times now. we're all you've read- " about four times now. we're all you've read my blog . we're all you've read my blog. we're all you've read my blog. we noneeiiw— we're all you've read my blog. we honestly we— we're all you've read my blog. we honestly we want you tested ewew— we honestly we want you tested ewerw iow— we honestly we want you tested ewerw oow oni— we honestly we want you tested every day and think the ratings wowii— every day and think the ratings wowii ie— every day and think the ratings would be even— every day and think the ratings would be even more of a iwggernowi— would be even more of a juggernaut than they currently are juggernaut than they currently . wen.— juggernaut than they currently are . well, thank— juggernaut than they currently are . well, thank you- juggernaut than they currently are. well, thank you very much. and yeah, apparently there are people outside jerry springer's house. well, one of his many houses shouting jerry , jerry, houses shouting jerry, jerry, jerry. he is truly a choppy jerry. and he is truly a choppy trending. jerry is trending on twitter. isn't that a beautiful oeeoioie— twitter. isn't that a beautiful accolade for— twitter. isn't that a beautiful accolade for him?— isn't that a beautiful accolade for him? that's the more— accolade for him? that's the more ine— accolade for him? that's the that's the mark— accolade for him? that's the that's the mark of the man he cut that's the mark of the man he ewi inrowgn— that's the mark of the man he cut through people. that's the mark of the man he cut through people. that's the mark of the man he cut through people. paul, thank you cut through people. paul, thank wow ior— cut through people. paul, thank you for coming on at short notice. paul duddridge, who is the host, of course, of the politics people podcast , just politics people podcast, just reacting, course, to the sad reacting, of course, to the sad news that springer has news that jerry springer has passed the age 79. passed away at the age of 79. but, you know, an opportunity to have at chap,

have a look back at this chap, legend as really. legend career as well, really. but go. moving on. but there we go. moving on. suella braverman says that people illegally people coming here illegally possessed at people coming here illegally possewith at people coming here illegally possewith our at people coming here illegally possewith our country at people coming here illegally possewith our country . at people coming here illegally possewith our country . the at people coming here illegally possewith our country . the home odds with our country. the home secretary has also said that small migrants linked small boat migrants are linked to heightened levels of criminality, this has caused criminality, but this has caused a lot of controversy. i'm joined now lawyer, eunice lennox now by the lawyer, eunice lennox , who's going to talk to me about of this. eunice, about all of this. eunice, thank you do you this you very much. do you think this suella to suella braverman is right to raise a contentious point that potentially, dare i say it, some people coming here across the channel do not have our norms and values and that's not necessarily a great thing for britain. good afternoon, patrick. thank you for inviting me ogoin— patrick. thank you for inviting me again. well,— c

what's coming out of her mouth oni— what's coming out of her mouth oni wneiner— what's coming out of her mouth and whether there's any good and wneiner— and whether there's any good and wneiner ii-e— and whether there's any good and whether it's backed— and whether there's any good and whether it's backed up by data. veon. — whether it's backed up by data. veon. i— whether it's backed up by data. veon. i neon— whether it's backed up by data. yeah. i mean, is— whether it's backed up by data. yeah. i mean, is the— whether it's backed up by data. yeah. i mean, is the data- whether it's backed up by data. yeah. i mean, is the data not just the rules and the laws and the norms in the countries that a lot of people are claiming to come from? i mean, do you not find it possibly slightly unbelievable a huge amount unbelievable that a huge amount of afghans, iranians and people coming from the middle east might suddenly develop incredibly positive incredibly strong, positive feelings for the lgbtq+ community or indeed women? well all i'm trying to i'm trying to get my head around the quantum leap that you've done as to what the home secretary has said into lgbt and women's rights, well, that's home values. i think she's talking— that's home values. i think she's talking about,- ithink she's talking about, isn't it? snee— she's talking about, isn't it? sne-e ene-e— she's talking about, isn't it? she's she's mentioned- she's talking about, isn't it? she's she's mentioned about british values and criminality . british values and criminality. now, she got evidence that now, has she got evidence that vast sums of people that are coming across the channel are actually turn into criminals? where's the evidence for that? wnere-e— where's the evidence for that? wnere-e ine — where's the evidence for that? where's the data?— where's the evidence for that? where's the data? the national crime— where's the data? the national crine agenew— where's the data? the national crime agency last— where's the data? the national crime agency last weekend and it's crime agency last weekend and ii-e ine— crime agency last weekend and ii-e ine ee— crime agency last weekend and it's the same thing with this ioei— it's the same thing with this last weekend— it's the same thing with this last weekend pakistani last weekend with pakistani grooming— grooming gangs. you know, neee—

grooming gangs. you know, where's-data?- grooming gangs. you know, where's data? where's the where's the data? where's the ewiienee — where's the data? where's the evidence pakistani evidence to say that pakistani men are over represented and woeiiw— men are over represented and vastly involved— men are over represented and vastly involved in— men are over represented and vastly involved in grooming gongei — vastly involved in grooming gongee i— vastly involved in grooming gangs? i mean,- vastly involved in grooming gangs? " it; vastly involved in grooming gangs? " gangs? i mean, i'm sure for her own department would have warned her that the very next day that there was the case proceeding in there was the case proceeding in the birmingham in the west midlands crown court, the very next day we were going to hear reports massive white reports of a massive white grooming . so again, she's grooming gang. so again, she's ogoin— grooming gang. so again, she's ogoin, ogoin— grooming gang. so again, she's again, again with— grooming gang. so again, she's again, again with that,- g “g gt“g so again, she's again, again with that, though, i again, again with that, though, i on— again, again with that, though, i on iwei— again, again with that, though, i on we eowing— again, again with that, though, i am just saying this genuinely, ioiiieiw— i am just saying this genuinely, ioiiieiw . — i am just saying this genuinely, ioiiieiw . i— i am just saying this genuinely, politely. i mean,— i am just saying this genuinely, politely. itiit; i am just saying this genuinely, politely . “ tiit; i am just saying this genuinely, politely . t“ politely. i mean, are you with your with your lawyer hat on? are you kind of expertly, just deliberately putting up another side to this that potentially you are wilfully ignoring some other of it? i mean, other elements of it? i mean, the national have the national crime agency have come out and said that there is clear indication come out and said that there is clearindication albanian come out and said that there is cleariret:ation albanian come out and said that there is clear iret cetera. albanian come out and said that there is clear iret cetera. who anian come out and said that there is clear iret cetera. who are now gangs. et cetera. who are now operating in with with with with impunity when it comes to things like drugs trade and other like the drugs trade and other elements criminality. we elements of criminality. we know, have know, of course, that there have been elements been huge elements of the channel migrants, albanian population who've been infiltrated by people. infiltrated by these people. they're themselves they're saying it themselves because a lot of the modern slavery angles of this, oh gosh,

we were come here by we were forced to come here by some human trafficker to we were forced to come here by somein human trafficker to we were forced to come here by somein criminalityin trafficker to we were forced to come here by somein criminality .i trafficker to we were forced to come here by somein criminality . so ifficker to we were forced to come here by somein criminality . so theyer to we were forced to come here by somein criminality . so they are» work in criminality. so they are saying it themselves and so, i mean, she's right, isn't she? mine is my understanding of ieoiie— mine is my understanding of ieoiie inor— mine is my understanding of people that are— mine is my understanding of people that are coming across iorgeiw— people that are coming across largely refugees— people that are coming across largely refugees are coming from aignonieion— largely refugees are coming from afghanistan,-from - largely refugees are coming from afghanistan, from syria, afghanistan, coming from syria, coming— afghanistan, coming from syria, coming-iioeee— afghanistan, coming from syria, coming-places of- afghanistan, coming from syria, coming places of conflict. coming from places of conflict. in coming from places of conflict. in ioe.— coming from places of conflict. in ioei. iioeee— coming from places of conflict. in fact, places like— coming from places of conflict. in fact, places like iraq- coming from places of conflict. in fact, places like iraq that- in fact, places like iraq that we've and afghanistan that we've gone and invaded and created. the problem. now i don't i hear what you say. and i said largely, i see the refugees coming across as people who are fleeing persecution. now . now, fleeing persecution. now. now, again, if she had provided data , then that would help substantiate the argument that she's she's trying to make. but what she's doing, again,- “g but what she's doing, again, is ene-e— what she's doing, again, is ene-e irwing— what she's doing, again, is ene-e rrwing ro— what she's doing, again, is she's trying to play , say, dog she's trying to play, say, dog wnieiie— she's trying to play, say, dog whistle politics— she's trying to play, say, dog whistle politics to a particular eeeiion— whistle politics to a particular eeeiion oi— whistle politics to a particular section of the— whistle politics to a particular section of the gallery . iit» section of the gallery. do you noi— section of the gallery. do you nor ioreeee— section of the gallery. do you not foresee any— section of the gallery. do you not foresee any point in the future, perhaps a slight issue coming with people who are increasingly becoming very progressive in this country and certain groups of people who are

coming very progressive in this country and a large influx of people from countries who are, i suppose, if i'll put it politely, more conservative or traditionalist or orthodox, perhaps in their views. are we not on a collision course here at some point, do you think? i i think you better explain what you're trying to you what you're trying to say , because i i've trying to say, because i i've been brought up with british values and my values. i was born and values and my values. i was born oni irowgni— values and my values. i was born oni irowgnr wi— values and my values. i was born and brought up here. _ values and my values. i was born and brought up here. i've- iwas born and brought up here. i've never iiwei— and brought up here. i've never lived anywhere else other than gregg county , west county, gregg county, west county, yorkshire and how i've been brought up is i value i, i judge people as i find them not not by stereotyping , not by putting me stereotyping, not by putting me putting them in groups . and i putting them in groups. and i like to take people as- putting them in groups. and i like to take people as i- cc “g “ git». and i like to take people as i find onen— like to take people as i find inen oni— like to take people as i find inen oni i— like to take people as i find them and i make my own iwigenenie— them and i make my own judgements. now you better explain— judgements. now you better eoiioin wnoi— judgements. now you better explain what you're trying to say— explain what you're trying to eowlne. — explain what you're trying to eowlne. iii— explain what you're trying to say-me. i'll be- explain what you're trying to say me. cc »th explain what you're trying to say me. cc mtg "»tnzc say to me. i'll be very direct with what trying to with what i'm trying to say to you, which i think it might you, which is i think it might be a difficulty with people coming that has coming from a country that has a

long of being the long history of being run by the taliban, and then coming here and expecting to just assimilate effortlessly our norms and effortlessly into our norms and values and especially when it comes to things like women's rights, etcetera. could could it be rights, etcetera. could could it ie ine— rights, etcetera. could could it ie we ee— rights, etcetera. could could it be the case that— "g“citr f could could it be the case that they're ”g“c~tr f could could it be the case that they're trying to be the case that they're trying io iiee— be the case that they're trying io iiee ine — be the case that they're trying to flee the very— be the case that they're trying to flee the very thing that wowe— to flee the very thing that wowre rrwing— to flee the very thing that wowre rrwing io— to flee the very thing that you're trying to describe to me? cowii— you're trying to describe to me? cowiileowii— you're trying to describe to me? could .could it— you're trying to describe to me? could .could it- be - could it could it could be coming— could it could it could be coming because could it could it could be coming-because don't coming here because they don't goree— coming here because they don't oreeoreeg—g- coming here because they don't agree. _agree with. agree. they don't agree with inoee— agree. they don't agree with those views. _ agree. they don't agree with those views. and- agree. they don't agree with those views. “»: those views. and they've actually deem actually got what we would deem to be british values and standards. could could could inor— standards. could could could inoileowii— standards. could could could that-could that— standards. could could could that.could that be- :: could could could that could that be the case? that be could that be the case? aieoiwieiw. — that be could that be the case? absolutely. _they-tol absolutely. could they wish to oeeiniioie — absolutely. could they wish to assimilate _to i absolutely. could they wish toj assimilate _to be assimilate and they wish to be pari— assimilate and they wish to be ion oi— assimilate and they wish to be part of british— assimilate and they wish to be part of british society and they wien— part of british society and they wien io— part of british society and they wien io iwe— part of british society and they wish to live by— part of british society and they wish to live by british values ? wish to live by british values? it wish to live by british values? ii oieoiwieiw— wish to live by british values? it absolutely could— wish to live by british values? it absolutely could be- wish to live by british values? it absolutely could be the- wish to live by british values? it absolutely could be the case. possibly it might be. it might be. it might be reasonable to suspect, though, when it comes to, the a big influx to, you know, the a big influx of people from just other cultures and not just just to the reality of the situation. it's not passing aspersions on it. saying it it. i'm just saying when it comes a straightforward comes to a straightforward elements compatibility, comes to a straightforward elemeiit; compatibility, comes to a straightforward elemeiit; completely.ity, mean, it is completely reasonable. only have reasonable. i mean, we only have to don't we, by, to evidence that, don't we, by, for like for example, things like when the was in qatar and the world cup was in qatar and we were all going there and

we were all going over there and told have to respect their told we have to respect their norms itself norms and values, that in itself proves there are proves that there are differences of norms and values. and so, i mean, that's just pretty straightforward, isn't it ? i'm pleased you brought up pretty straightforward, isn't it- ? i'm pleased you brought up the _ ? i'm pleased you brought up the oi— ? i'm pleased you brought up the oi ine— ? i'm pleased you brought up the issue of the world— 7 i'm pleased you brought up the issue of the world cup in qatar . ieeowee ine— issue of the world cup in qatar , because the virtue signalling oni— , because the virtue signalling oni ine— , because the virtue signalling and the hypocrisy that i saw wnen— and the hypocrisy that i saw wnen ine— and the hypocrisy that i saw when the world— and the hypocrisy that i saw when the world cup was happening in ooior— when the world cup was happening in ooior oe— when the world cup was happening in qatar was just— when the world cup was happening in qatar was just on— when the world cup was happening in qatar was just on a on a on a iewei— in qatar was just on a on a on a iewei-newer— in qatar was just on a on a on a iewei-newer ii-e— in qatar was just on a on a on a level never it's never been level i've never it's never been seen - because _wasl seen before because what was newer-wnoi-inl seen before because what was. never-what-in fact never reported, what was in fact ironiiiiei— never reported, what was in fact prohibited from _ never reported, what was in fact prohibited from reporting was the prohibited from reporting was ine—ewen— prohibited from reporting was the even renowned the amount of even renowned neiio— the amount of even renowned media personalities and female neiio— media personalities and female media personalities and female media personalities that were rewiring— media personalities that were iwiring on— media personalities that were putting on twitter and social neiio— putting on twitter and social neiio. ine— putting on twitter and social media. the fact— putting on twitter and social media. the fact that it's the oniw— media. the fact that it's the oniw iioee— media. the fact that it's the oniw iioee in— media. the fact that it's the only place in the world that inew-we — only place in the world that inew-we ieen— only place in the world that they've been where they felt not oiieeiiiiei — they've been where they felt not objectified sexually , absolutely objectified sexually, absolutely eoie— objectified sexually, absolutely eoie ior— objectified sexually, absolutely safe for their— objectified sexually, absolutely safe for their safety. ' “»: safe for their safety. and that in— safe for their safety. and that was in qatar . the— safe for their safety. and that was in qatar . the fact- safe for their safety. ' “»: t“ i the fact that we was in qatar. the fact that we winwoiiw— t“ i the fact that we were virtually signalling about nwnon— were virtually signalling about nwnon rignie— were virtually signalling about human rights and violations of nwnon— human rights and violations of nwnon rignie— human rights and violations of human rights and violations of human rights and how migrant worerei— human rights and how migrant workers were treated. \»»t»iwi workers were treated. now let's apply— workers were treated. now let's apply those standards that we set . i agree with you. i agree set. i agree with you. i agree wion— set. i agree with you. i agree wiin wow— set. i agree with you. i agree wiin wow on— set. i agree with you. i agree with you on that. - i agree with you. i agree with you on that. itigitnt;

with you on that. look, i agree with you on that. look, i agree with you. it's with you on that. look, i agree wion wow. ii-e o— with you on that. look, i agree with you. it's a really- with you. it's a really iniononi— it's a really important point. but let's apply the standards— important point. but let's apply the standards that we set when the standards that we set when ine woni— the standards that we set when we worii cwi— the standards that we set when the world cup was in qatar about now— the world cup was in qatar about nowworere—i i how we treat migrant workers. wow— how we treat migrant workers.i now—we're treating now look at how we're treating ieoiie— now look at how we're treating ieowe-io— now look at how we're treating ieoiie-io cone- now look at how we're treating people to come here as people that want to come here as reiwgeee— people that want to come here as reiwgeee-oiowi— refugees. forget about migrant workers. there's an argument inor— workers. there's an argument inoi ooior— workers. there's an argument that qatar would _ workers. there's an argument that qatar would actually ireoiing— that qatar would actually treating workers that qatar would actually- treating-workers better treating migrant workers better inon— treating migrant workers better won-igni— treating migrant workers better than-right.-sorry,| treating migrant workers better thaithat-right.-sorry,| treating migrant workers better thaic“rtic ?g“c treating migrant workers better thaic“itic but that is absolute rubbish, isn't is absolute isn't it? that is absolute rubbish . as it currently stands rubbish. as it currently stands . you know, that's rubbish as it migrant people, people can come across the channel illegally and be put up in four star hotels right . in qatar, different right. in qatar, different debate, debate being forced to build football and they died as a result of that. a lot of them . and that is just rubbish. yeah, there you go. you're missing yeah, there you go. you're nieeing ine— yeah, there you go. you're missing the point- yeah, there you go. you're missing the point. - / gt» you're missing the point . v/»t»c. ”»t; missing the point. you're ioioiiw— missing the point. you're totally missing the point when you're talking about migrant workers. qatar will allow nigroni— workers. qatar will allow- nigroni—ineir migrant workers to enter their eownirw. — migrant workers to enter their country. iwiitv“ c qatar migrant workers to enter their country. wit»t“ c qatar will country. we won't. qatar will oiiow— country. we won't. qatar will oiiow nigroni— country. �*ifwiit; w»t»“ c qatar will allow migrant workers to work in ineir— allow migrant workers to work in ineir eownirw. — allow migrant workers to work in their country. we— allow migrant workers to work in their country. we will send them ioei— their country. we will send them ioei io— their country. we will send them back to rwanda. _ their country. we will send them back to rwanda. we won't even oiiow— back to rwanda. we won't even oiiow-cone— back to rwanda. we won't even allow-come here. - back to rwanda. we won't even allow-come here. i. back to rwanda. we won't even allow come here. allow them to come here. i am going— allow them to come here. i am going io— allow them to come here. i am going io eni— allow them to come here. i am going io eni ii— allow them to come here. i am going to end it here because we think i'm missing your point. i don't think got one. so don't think you've got one. so we're leave it there.

we're going to leave it there. that's unison out who that's unison out there. who is indeed, not, indeed, believe it or not, a lawyer. right. okay so moving on. steve barclay facing on. steve barclay is facing allegations bullied on. steve barclay is facing allegeofins bullied on. steve barclay is facing allegeof his bullied on. steve barclay is facing allegeof his staff. bullied on. steve barclay is facing allegeof his staff. butiullied on. steve barclay is facing allegeof his staff. but islied on. steve barclay is facing allegeof his staff. but is itid some of his staff. but is it just service at it? just the civil service at it? again, patrick christys again, i'm patrick christys on

across the uk. this is gb news radio . welcome 3ti»: welcome back. \»t»w 3ti»: welcome back. w»t»w radio. welcome back. now to more moaning from the civil service. apparently after getting rid of dominic raab, it looks like they're now out to get steve barclay's reported that barclays, the subject of informal about his informal complaints about his behaviour downing street has insisted that ministers must be able robustly challenge civil able to robustly challenge civil servants. now, while foreign secretary james cleverly has defended barclay and said the health secretary is absolutely not a bully, joined now by not a bully, i'm joined now by our editor, darren our political editor, darren mccaffrey. is this deja mccaffrey. darren, is this deja vu in of dominic raab or vu in terms of dominic raab or not? what's going on with steve bali ? well, at the moment it's bali? well, at the moment it's not in the sense that we've not really had any formal complaints against the health secretary. these are two anonymous dss

eiwii— these are two anonymous dss civil servants— these are two anonymous dss civil servants who've gone to ine— civil servants who've gone to the guardian— civil servants who've gone to the guardian to— civil servants who've gone to the guardian to report that they ieiiewe— the guardian to report that they ieiiewe inor— the guardian to report that they believe that steve— the guardian to report that they believe that steve barclay is tuned,— believe that steve barclay is bulliedrla_ believe that steve barclay is bullied,.a bully,- believe that steve barclay is bullied, a bully, or at least bullied, is a bully, or at least inwoiwei— bullied, is a bully, or at least inwoiwei in— bullied, is a bully, or at least involved in what— bullied, is a bully, or at least involved in what they would ieeeriie — involved in what they would describe bullying behaviour . describe as bullying behaviour. wow— describe as bullying behaviour.| now—constitute? now what does that constitute? weii — now what does that constitute? weii _ne-el well, according to them, he's regwioriw—in- well, according to them, he'si regularly—in front regularly blasted staff in front of regularly blasted staff in front oi oinere— regularly blasted staff in front oi oinere in— regularly blasted staff in front of others in the— regularly blasted staff in front of others in the office and that he of others in the office and that ne ie— of others in the office and that he is constantly— of others in the office and that he is constantly angry and that he is constantly angry and that ne noiie— he is constantly angry and that he holds people— he is constantly angry and that he holds people over the coals oni— he holds people over the coals oni ie— he holds people over the coals and is generally— he holds people over the coals and is generally a— he holds people over the coals and is generally a bit unpleasant- and is generally a bit unpleasant .- and is generally a bit unpleasant . is that bullying or unpleasant. is that bullying or now— unpleasant. is that bullying or now-iii— unpleasant. is that bullying or now-iii ie— unpleasant. is that bullying or not?-i'll be up- unpleasant. is that bullying or not?-i'll be up to- unpleasant. is that bullying or not? i'll be up to you at not? well, i'll be up to you at none— not? well, i'll be up to you at none io— not? well, i'll be up to you at home to decide— not? well, i'll be up to you at home to decide whether it is or nor.— home to decide whether it is or noi. cieoriw— home to decide whether it is or not. clearly there _ home to decide whether it is or not. clearly there is a big ieiore— not. clearly there is a big debate, isn't— not. clearly there is a big debate, isn't there an actual conversation _ debate, isn't there an actual conversation ,— debate, isn't there an actual conversation , some might say, conversation, some might say, oiowi— conversation, some might say, oiowi wnoi— conversation, some might say, about what is— conversation, some might say, about what is acceptable in the woriiioee— about what is acceptable in the workplace compared about what is acceptable in the. workplace—compared to workplace these days compared to wnoi— workplace these days compared to wnoi now— workplace these days compared to wnoi now nove— workplace these days compared to what may have gone on in the woere—eieoriwl what may have gone on in the. past?_clearly feels past? dominic raab clearly feels he past? dominic raab clearly feels ne oe— past? dominic raab clearly feels ne ione— past? dominic raab clearly feels he was done over— past? dominic raab clearly feels he was done over talking about now— he was done over talking about now ine— he was done over talking about now we ior— he was done over talking about how the bar had— he was done over talking about how the bar had been lowered at too how the bar had been lowered at ioo iow— how the bar had been lowered at ioo iow wnen— how the bar had been lowered at too low when it— how the bar had been lowered at too low when it came to what eoneiiiwiei — too low when it came to what constituted bullying. he was iowni— constituted bullying. he was iowno gwiiiw— constituted bullying. he was found guilty of— constituted bullying. he was found guilty of what an independent— found guilty of what an independent report and had to reeign— independent report and had to reeign. iwi— independent report and had to resign. but you're right in eowing— resign. but you're right in eowing-ie— resign. but you're right in saying-islhell- resign. but you're right in saying is hell of a resign. but you're right in- saying-islhell of a lot saying there is a hell of a lot of saying there is a hell of a lot a_pana,_ saying there is a hell of a lot of-patrick, inside- of unease. patrick, inside gwiiee— of unease. patrick, inside| guides—about of unease. patrick, inside- guides_about what guides government about what new— guides government about what new view— guides government about what new oe— guides government about what new oe o— guides government about what they view as a concerted eonioign— they view as a concerted eonioign in— they view as a concerted campaign in some ways to pick off campaign in some ways to pick oii eoiinei— campaign in some ways to pick off cabinet ministers and i

inini— off cabinet ministers and i inini inew— off cabinet ministers and i think they will— off cabinet ministers and i think they will be concerned oiowi— think they will be concerned oiowi inie. — think they will be concerned about this. but— think they will be concerned about this. but as you say to iore— about this. but as you say to age, ineee— about this. but as you say to date, these anonymous sources nove— date, these anonymous sources nove noi— date, these anonymous sources have not lodged— date, these anonymous sources have not lodged a— date, these anonymous sources have not lodged a formal eoniioini— have not lodged a formal complaint with the department of neoiin— complaint with the department of neoiin .— complaint with the department of neoiin . ani— complaint with the department of health . and thus— complaint with the department of health . and thus far, downing health. and thus far, downing sneer— health. and thus far, downing sneer-goi— health. and thus far, downing street-got the- health. and thus far, downing street got the full backing street have got the full backing or—ioeiing- street have got the full backing or—ioeiing io- or given the full backing to sieve — or given the full backing to- sieve _weii steve barclay and saying, well, at steve barclay and saying, well, oi ine— steve barclay and saying, well, at the moment— steve barclay and saying, well, at the moment there's literally noining— at the moment there's literally nothing investigate rate. nothing to investigate rate. ionen— nothing to investigate rate. darren thank— nothing to investigate rate. darren thank you very much. ionen— darren thank you very much. darren mccaffrey— darren thank you very much. darren mccaffrey there. - darren thank you very much. darren mccaffrey there. our political editor outside westminster. i'm joined now by sociologist and social commentator frank farage de frank, stuff . great to frank, great stuff. great to have you on show and do you have you on the show and do you do think what we are do you think that what we are witnessing is a changing of witnessing here is a changing of the potentially the guard potentially between people are an older school, people who are an older school, who not afraid to speak who are not afraid to speak their mind and want stuff done and snowflakes ? yeah, i and weak snowflakes? yeah, i mean , what's happening is that mean, what's happening is that when bullying has become popular, you have to remember that bullying used to be something that children did to each other. since it's become nigroiei— each other. since it's become nigroiei inio— each other. since it's become migrated into the— t since it's become migrated into the adult world, a lot migrated into the adult world, a ioi oi— migrated into the adult world, a ior oi ieoiie— migrated into the adult world, a lot of people have— migrated into the adult world, a lot of people have become infantilized _ lot of people have become infantilized and they almost ieei— infantilized and they almost ieei oe— infantilized and they almost ieei oe ii— infantilized and they almost feel as if they're vulnerable. cniiiren— feel as if they're vulnerable. children and— feel as if they're vulnerable. children and when you talk to

ieowe,— children and when you talk to some people, they basically feel inew-re— some people, they basically feel they're bullied.— some people, they basically feel they're bullied. if— some people, they basically feel they're bullied. if you look at wen,— they're bullied. if you look at inen, ii-e— they're bullied. if you look at them, it's hard— they're bullied. if you look at them, it's hard or— they're bullied. if you look at them, it's hard or if you oriiieiee— them, it's hard or if you criticise them,- them, it's hard or if you criticise them, you question inen. — criticise them, you question inen. ii— criticise them, you question inen. ii wow— criticise them, you question them. if you raise a point in a enori— them. if you raise a point in a enori wavi— them. if you raise a point in a enori wow. wow— them. if you raise a point in a sharp way, you call the bully. i was once called— sharp way, you call the bully. i was once called a— sharp way, you call the bully. i was once called a bully in the universe, motty,_ was once called a bully in the universe, motty, because i kept on gweeiioning— universe, motty, because i kept on questioning students all the nae,— on questioning students all the rine, giving— on questioning students all the time, giving them direct gweeiione— time, giving them direct questions. and it was said that if questions. and it was said that ii wow— questions. and it was said that ii wow oeiei— questions. and it was said that if you asked direct questions, more— if you asked direct questions, that's intimidating . so live in that's intimidating. so live in a that's intimidating. so live in o worii— that's intimidating. so live in a new world where you're meant to a new world where you're meant io ie— a new world where you're meant io ie eoiiiw,— a new world where you're meant to be softly, softly.— a new world where you're meant to be softly, softly. but i inini— to be softly, softly. but i think what's— to be softly, softly. but i think what's happening now is inor— think what's happening now is no iwiiwing— think what's happening now is that bullying has been weaponized_ that bullying has been weaponized . so basically lot weaponized. so basically a lot of weaponized. so basically a lot oi ieoiie— weaponized. so basically a lot oi ieoiie wno— weaponized. so basically a lot of people who are— of people who are anti—government , who of people who are— anti—government , who don't like anti—government, who don't like the anti—government, who don't like we evieiing— anti—government, who don't like the existing cabinet members, are essentially— the existing cabinet members, are essentially going on on record— are essentially going on on eeori oni— are essentially going on on record and complaining that inew-ve— record and complaining that inew-ve ieen— record and complaining that they've been bullied as a way of wniernining— they've been bullied as a way of undermining and— they've been bullied as a way of undermining and destabilising the government— undermining and destabilising the government and also of picking— the government and also of picking or— the government and also of picking or picking a certain ninieiere— picking or picking a certain ministers and— picking or picking a certain ministers and individuals. and it ministers and individuals. and ii eeene— ministers and individuals. and ii io— ministers and individuals. and it seems to me— ministers and individuals. and it seems to me that the government— it seems to me that the government needs to get its act iogeiner— government needs to get its act rogeiner oni— government needs to get its act together and basically say that, you together and basically say that, wow know,— together and basically say that, wow know, were— together and basically say that, you know, we're in— together and basically say that, you know, we're in the business of you know, we're in the business oi noiing— you know, we're in the business of making decisions. we're in

ine— of making decisions. we're in the business— of making decisions. we're in the business of— of making decisions. we're in the business of making hard enoieee— the business of making hard enoieee .— the business of making hard choices . and— the business of making hard choices . and in— the business of making hard choices . and in the course of choices. and in the course of going— choices. and in the course of ioing inor— choices. and in the course of going inoi ,— choices. and in the course of doing that , we— choices. and in the course of doing that , we can't always be doing that, we can't always be oiiionoiie— doing that, we can't always be diplomatic and— doing that, we can't always be diplomatic and can't always eniie— diplomatic and can't always eniie oi— diplomatic and can't always smile at each— diplomatic and can't always smile at each other . iciit“»t; smile at each other. one of the problems is actually literally the law because it does appear as though the emphasis is on the person who claims to have had a feeling okay and not on the burden of proof. so if someone feels as though that they have been discriminated against in one way or the other, that basically trumps what many people is the people would argue is the reality of the situation, which is haven't been. and is that they haven't been. and so is problem. i don't so that is a problem. i don't really how gets solved so that is a problem. i don't realtime how gets solved so that is a problem. i don't realtime soon, gets solved so that is a problem. i don't realtime soon, but gets solved so that is a problem. i don't realtime soon, but i]ets solved so that is a problem. i don't realtime soon, but i mean, .ved so that is a problem. i don't realtime soon, but i mean, doi any time soon, but i mean, do you think that we are just doomed, really? because what what is the solution now that everybody has to just behave like the weakest people in society as opposed to maybe getting things done ? well, you getting things done? well, you raise a very important- gtcc “g “g :7 well, you raise a very important question ieeowee— raise a very important question because as long— raise a very important question because as long as the ewireeiive— because as long as the subjective feeling of being iwiiiei— subjective feeling of being bullied trumps anything else, it ioeieoiiw— bullied trumps anything else, it basically means— bullied trumps anything else, it

basically means that you're gwiiiw— basically means that you're gwiirw ine— basically means that you're guilty the minute somebody enorgee— guilty the minute somebody enorgee wow— guilty the minute somebody charges you with being bullied. and charges you with being bullied. one note— charges you with being bullied. one more o— charges you with being bullied. and that's a really horrendous rwie— and that's a really horrendous rwie inor— and that's a really horrendous rule that was— and that's a really horrendous rule that was brought in. i inini— rule that was brought in. i inini ii— rule that was brought in. i think it should— rule that was brought in. i think it should be scrapped ieeowee— think it should be scrapped because as long as you have this verw— because as long as you have this verw ewireeiive— because as long as you have this very subjective definition oi— very subjective definition version of what a problem is, you— version of what a problem is, wow nove— version of what a problem is, you never have an objective oriierion— you never have an objective oriierion iw— you never have an objective criterion by which to judge inn.— criterion by which to judge inoi. ani— criterion by which to judge that. and if— criterion by which to judge that. and if you allow that to eoninwei— that. and if you allow that to continue, then— that. and if you allow that to continue, then basically you eoie— continue, then basically you eoie o— continue, then basically you create a situation where what weeo— create a situation where what weeo io— create a situation where what weeo io ie— create a situation where what used to be called— create a situation where what used to be called office ioiiiiee— used to be called office politics turns- used to be called office politics turns into a battlefield - politics turns into a battlefield . and that's going to battlefield. and that's going to nove— battlefield. and that's going to have corrosive— battlefield. and that's going to have corrosive impact on everwioow— have corrosive impact on everybody else's lives . and not everybody else's lives. and not iwei— everybody else's lives. and not just politicians,— everybody else's lives. and not just politicians, but ordinary nwnon— just politicians, but ordinary human beings— just politicians, but ordinary human beings will find that they ieoe— human beings will find that they become scared— human beings will find that they become scared about opening ineir— become scared about opening their mouths. _ become scared about opening their mouths. they become scared of their mouths. they become scared oi oriiieieing— their mouths. they become scared of criticising and— their mouths. they become scared of criticising and raising iiiiereni— of criticising and raising different problems, but they oireoiw— different problems, but they oireoiw — different problems, but they already are. “»tg : itiit; already are. they already are. i remain absolutely convinced that the kind of conversations that go on around even dinner tables at dinner parties are so heavily censored now because people don't want to just actually speak their mind. and it is a huge problem. and unfortunately, the bullying , i would argue that

the bullying, i would argue that the bullying, i would argue that the bullying, i would argue that the bullying that is going on there from a lot people there is from a lot of people who bracket up as who bracket themselves up as very lovely and fluffy very kind and lovely and fluffy people core liberal people with hard core liberal values. and actually they're the ones that were trying to silence people. but look, thank people. but frank, look, thank you frank you very, very much. frank frady. i hope you didn't feel bullied any though. bullied at any point, though. if you you sorry, you did, then, you know, sorry, what we're going to do, frank, for a&e, though, who's a sociologist social sociologist and a social commentator there's commentator for now, there's loads now loads more to come between now and a claims that and 6:00. a poll claims that almost of people almost three quarters of people in don't about in scotland don't care about the coronation out coronation now, we've been out and find out and about in glasgow to find out what some scots actually think andifs what some scots actually think and it's fair to say that it might be more than three quarters. we don't really care about the coronation, but there's survey as well there's more on a survey as well that found that britain is that has found that britain is one of the racist one of the least racist countries we'll be countries in the world. we'll be talking what's not talking about that. what's not to patrick on gb news. to love? i'm patrick on gb news. now headlines with polly now though, headlines with polly . patrick. thank you. the top eioriee— . patrick. thank you. the top eioriee inie— . patrick. thank you. the top stories this hour.— »t.

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excited about it. but not everyone in the is up for it. everyone in the uk is up for it. apparently has found apparently a survey has found that almost quarters that almost three quarters of people scotland don't care people in scotland don't care about the coronation so we went out to glasgow to gauge the mood . ithink out to glasgow to gauge the mood . i think it's exciting for ioniiiee— . i think it's exciting for families and— i think it's exciting for families and that, but as a uni eiwieni,— families and that, but as a uni eiwieni, rin— families and that, but as a uni student, i'm too— families and that, but as a uni student, i'm too not bothered oiowi— student, i'm too not bothered oiowi ii. — student, i'm too not bothered oiowi ii. i— student, i'm too not bothered about it. i think— student, i'm too not bothered about it. i think it's- student, i'm too not bothered about it. c t “g about it. i think it's costing the government a lot of money. it's just like an advertisement for it's just like an advertisement ior ine— it's just like an advertisement ior ine royal— it's just like an advertisement for the royal family, you know? i for the royal family, you know? i neon— for the royal family, you know? i ,— for the royal family, you know? i . inew-ve— for the royal family, you know? i mean , they've been going i mean, they've been going inrowgn— i mean, they've been going inrowgnlioi— i mean, they've been going throughllot of— i mean, they've been going through lot of going through through a lot of going through a lot through a lot of going through a ioi oi— through a lot of going through a ioi oi ioi— through a lot of going through a lot of bad things— through a lot of going through a lot of bad things lately and a lot of bad things lately and a ioi oi— lot of bad things lately and a ioi oi score— lot of bad things lately and a lot of scots think— lot of bad things lately and a lot of scots think it's just a woere— lot of scots think it's just a woere oi— lot of scots think it's just a waste of time.— lot of scots think it's just a waste of time. myself included. eooi— waste of time. myself included. eooi wore— waste of time. myself included. good more thoughts is it reievoni— good more thoughts is it relevant for— good more thoughts is it relevant for scotland? oh i seoiioni— relevant for scotland? oh i scotland is _ relevant for scotland? oh i scotland is going to have a king oni— scotland is going to have a king oni o— scotland is going to have a king oni o .— scotland is going to have a king oni o . oween— scotland is going to have a king and a . queen to— scotland is going to have a king and a . queen to identified and a. queen to identified nereeii— and a. queen to identified nereeii ,— and a. queen to identified nereeii . ii— and a. queen to identified herself , if not— and a. queen to identified herself , if not excited . :»t»“ c herself, if not excited. i don't reoiiw— herself, if not excited. i don't reoiiw — herself, if not excited. i don't really care. i've— herself, if not excited. i don't really care. i've heard- herself, if not excited. :»t»“ c ”»trticcg »trtiit; i've heard like really care. i've heard like we— really care. i've heard like iiie oi— really care. i've heard like iiie oi ii— really care. i've heard like bits of it on _ really care. i've heard like bits of it on the- ”»tticcg »ttiit; i've heard like bits of it on the news, but i've noi— bits of it on the news, but i've noi reoiiw— bits of it on the news, but i've not really been— bits of it on the news, but i've not really been paying attention.— not really been paying attention. i— not really been paying attention. i think it's a waste of attention. i think it's a waste oi iine. — attention. i think it's a waste oi iine. i— attention. i think it's a waste of time. i think— attention. i think it's a waste of time. i think it's- attention. i think it's a waste of time. c of time. i think it's a waste of money like it's to. money like it's going to. i don't know how much it's going

money like it's going to. i docost,|ow how much it's going money like it's going to. i docost, buthow much it's going money like it's going to. i docost, but i'm much it's going money like it's going to. i docost, but i'm going it's going money like it's going to. i docost, but i'm going to; going money like it's going to. i docost, but i'm going to assume to cost, but i'm going to assume it's going to cost a lot. so i think it's 10 million,- it's going to cost a lot. so i think it's 10 million, 10- think it's 10 million, 10 niiiion. — think it's 10 million, 10 million. that- think it's 10 million, 10 million. c think it's 10 million, 10 million. that seems like waste million. that seems like a waste of to me. pubs open early of money to me. pubs open early in eioegow— of money to me. pubs open early in glasgow,-they? - of money to me. pubs open early in glasgow,-they? well,- of money to me. pubs open early in glasgow,-they? well, itl in glasgow, don't they? well, it iooie— in glasgow, don't they? well, it iooielioi. — in glasgow, don't they? well, it looksllot. there— in glasgow, don't they? well, it looks lot. there go. looks a lot. there we go. anyway, so. well, now a anyway, so. well, now to a controversy, though, ahead of the coronation, vice the coronation, the vice president zheng, president of china, han zheng, will be there next week and he played china's played a major role in china's brutal crackdown on hong kong's pro—democracy protests in 2019. this part of a bit of this is part of a bit of a rogues gallery, actually , of rogues gallery, actually, of slightly bizarre coronation ianes. slightly bizarre coronation invites . but i do get that it's invites. but i do get that it's all about soft diplomacy. the move been heavily criticised move has been heavily criticised by but by many conservative mps, but foreign secretary james cleverly says that it was china's right to decide who represents their country the coronation and country at the coronation and presumably not actually a massive two fingers up to this country. and our monarchy. of course. han geng is not the only coronation rogue to have confirmed their attendance. i'm going to run you through a little rose gallery. there it is. what about the sinn fein's deputy leader, michelle o'neill ? she'll be that. ? so, yeah, she'll be that. apparently or scotland's new

republican first minister. humza yousaf yeah, there he is. he'll be there. and the worst of all, prince harry. why has he been ianed? prince harry. why has he been invited? just just just put us all out of our misery and. and get him gone. of course, harry doing his best to completely obliterate any chance of reconciliation with william by blowing a court case wide open with some allegations about prince william potentially benefit as well financially from a hush payout. but there we a hush hush payout. but there we go . anyway, let's get stuck to go. anyway, let's get stuck to in this now. and i also want to throw it over to you guys gbviews@gbnews.uk. do you reckon that some of these people should actually be invited to the combination? it is a little bit strange. i think that we have chosen to invite what is a chosen to invite on what is a massive, day for massive, massive day for the country, not not in itself a delegation for the chinese government, because clearly we do have trading do want to have trading relationships with china and just indeed any relationship with you with them. i get that. but, you know, send the who's know, they send the guy who's responsible essentially responsible for essentially syphoning kong and syphoning off hong kong and we're accept we're now having to accept rightly you know, people rightly so. you know, people coming from hong to seek

coming from hong kong to seek genuine from an genuine asylum from an oppressive , brutal chinese oppressive, brutal chinese regime. we really let them do regime. do we really let them do that? is it not a deliberate snub? but there we go. your snub? but there we go. get your views gb views or views coming in. gb views or gbnews.uk. okay, let's get stuck in, though, now study that in, though, now to a study that undermines all talk, all undermines all the talk, all the talk is rampant talk that racism is rampant across the united kingdom. a new report claims live in report claims that we live in one the least racist one of the least racist countries world. and countries in the world. and a survey of 24 nations that survey of 24 nations found that just brits wouldn't want just 2% of brits wouldn't want to have someone of a different race as their neighbour. and when living when it comes to living alongside immigrant a alongside an immigrant or a foreign the figure is foreign worker, the figure is only 5% in both categories . the only 5% in both categories. the uk is less racist than the united states. france italy. i mean, i could go on actually , mean, i could go on actually, because it includes china, greece, morocco, south korea, egypti greece, morocco, south korea, egypt, poland. the philippines. indonesia. mexico. spain nigeria. france australia. canada. norway and there you go. so basically pretty much every single country, apart from, believe it or not, brazil and sweden. so there we go. now earlier spoke to an actor and earlier i spoke to an actor and writer, femi nylander , who was writer, femi nylander, who was

deeply critical of the findings of this study. i'm going to react off the back of this, but here's here's a brief, a brief segment of the chat i had with femi earlier. well, segment of the chat i had with femi earlier . well, patrick, do femi earlier. well, patrick, do you— femi earlier. well, patrick, do wow know— femi earlier. well, patrick, do you know anything— well, patrick, do you know anything about eogniiive— you know anything about cognitive psychology and reioning— cognitive psychology and reporting bias? c c reporting bias? it's a it's a concept, basically , which says concept, basically, which says that when survey respondents are responding to a, um , a survey responding to a, um, a survey that often have bias and when you want to find something out , you want to find something out, if you ask a question of the person who is supposedly the perpetrator of the wrong , perpetrator of the wrong, they're not going to know. no one is answering a survey going, i am a racist. you have me on a few weeks ago and that was a survey to talk about a different survey. and that was a survey where were talking where minorities were talking about not about their experience same not apply about their experience same not apply very well apply. and that had a very well that's the thing is a very different by that logic the same not apply because they not apply for them because they would inclined to would maybe be more inclined to say they are suffering. say that they are suffering. well no, possibly, possibly well no, but possibly, possibly you have. but i mean, at the end

of you have. but i mean, at the end oi ine— you have. but i mean, at the end oi ine day— you have. but i mean, at the end oi ine dayv ii— you have. but i mean, at the end oi ine dayv ii i— you have. but i mean, at the end of the day, if i ask— but i mean, at the end of the day, if i ask someone how ioii— of the day, if i ask someone how ioii oe— of the day, if i ask someone how ioii wow— of the day, if i ask someone how ioii wow on— of the day, if i ask someone how tall are you on a— of the day, if i ask someone how tall are you on a survey? �*7 tall are you on a survey? if someone's-nine,- tall are you on a survey? if someone's nine, they'll someone's five nine, they'll probably up six foot probably bump it up to six foot or to at least five, me, or to at least five, ten for me, is it i mean, this is a survey which asks british people if they feel like they're racist , they feel like they're racist, but it's not. surely there would be the same level of cognitive bias . right. be the same level of cognitive bias. right. in places like iran, russia , japan, china, iran, russia, japan, china, greece, morocco , south korea, greece, morocco, south korea, egypti greece, morocco, south korea, egypt, poland, italy , the egypt, poland, italy, the philippines, indonesia, mexico, spain , nigeria, france, austria, spain, nigeria, france, austria, australia , canada, united states australia, canada, united states and norway. all countries who scored higher than us . so do scored higher than us. so do they not care about not seeming like racists? but. but we do. and we're the only ones who are trying to cover our racism . trying to cover up our racism. no, no, i don't think that's neeeeeoriiw— no, no, i don't think that's necessarily true. ' “»: necessarily true. and i think that some of the countries you name, have big problems name, they do have big problems with xenophobia. and no one said england in with xenophobia. and no one said engworld in with xenophobia. and no one said engworld that in with xenophobia. and no one said engworld that has in with xenophobia. and no one said engworld that has problems n with xenophobia. and no one said engworld that has problems with the world that has problems with xenophobia. japan famously has had in the had a lot of problems in the past xenophobia and with past with xenophobia and with seen as superior to seen as itself as superior to the koreans. to the chinese. ii-e— the koreans. to the chinese. it's immediate— ”cir? to the chinese. it's immediate neighbours, no it's immediate neighbours, so no ie— it's immediate neighbours, so no ie eowing—

it's immediate neighbours, so no one is saying england is the oniw— one is saying england is the oniw eownirw— one is saying england is the only country with xenophobia. no only country with xenophobia. wo-ie— only country with xenophobia. wo-ie eowing— only country with xenophobia. no-is saying that- only country with xenophobia. no-is saying that some. only country with xenophobia. no-is saying that some ofl no one is saying that some of the don't the other countries don't deserve to be on the list. all i'm saying that say that i'm saying is that to say that the racist because the uk isn't racist because british have said that british people have said that they racist not to they are not racist and not to look evidence, not look at the evidence, not to look at the evidence, not to look of the rhetoric look at some of the rhetoric which brexit, which came out around brexit, not any of the not to look at any of the institutional aspects which show that uk of that in the uk people of minorities are disproportionately be disproportionately likely to be poor , disproportionately likely poor, disproportionately likely to be in the criminal justice system, disproportionately likely to be entitled to free school meals, disproportionately likely to be the victims of aggravated racial motivated crime. i mean, the evidence of britain being a society which has serious problems with institutional racism , are all institutional racism, are all there really. i mean , i did find there really. i mean, i did find it fascinating— there really. i mean, i did find it fascinating that— ct“»t;”»t; ”»tticcg i mean, i did find it fascinating that this study, wnion— it fascinating that this study, which categorically shows that iriioin— which categorically shows that iriioin ie— which categorically shows that britain is not— which categorically shows that britain is not a— which categorically shows that britain is not a racist country, is britain is not a racist country, ie one— britain is not a racist country, ie oi— britain is not a racist country, ie oi ine— britain is not a racist country, is one of the least racist owririee— is one of the least racist countries in— is one of the least racist countries in the world, is not voiii— countries in the world, is not valid because—

countries in the world, is not valid because people will have iiei— valid because people will have iiei oiowi— valid because people will have lied about it. _ valid because people will have lied about it. cc lied about it. people will have said no. but then you have studies that come out that appear to show that people do suffer like institutional suffer things like institutional racism and there's been racism and that there's been issues there and people are suffering deeply country suffering deeply in this country . studies are okay. we . but those studies are okay. we can studies, but we can trust those studies, but we can't trust this and i do can't trust this one. and i do wonder what it's going to take, because then again, we're into unconscious territory , unconscious bias territory, aren't sometimes we can't aren't we? sometimes we can't just evidence that just believe the evidence that we when you walk we see around us. when you walk outside you see a cohesive outside and you see a cohesive society incredibly society which is incredibly diverse multi—ethnic , and diverse and multi—ethnic, and you see fact that we are you see the fact that we are welcoming huge numbers people welcoming huge numbers of people here from all over the world. and it does appear to be that people are desperate to come to the from all corners of the the uk from all corners of the world. to ignore that world. we have to ignore that and look at the idea and we have to look at the idea that we are indeed some inherently racist country. i mean, itself described us mean, the un itself described us as ethnic minorities in as having ethnic minorities in britain living in fear as a result of systemic racism , and result of systemic racism, and i'm just not sure that's true. and then you end up with a study like this, which has been published fantastically by a

company called unherd , and also company called unherd, and also it's the policy institute at king's london. did king's college london. and i did put that femi as well. and i put that to femi as well. and i said to him, well, if they pubush said to him, well, if they publish an economic you'd publish an economic study, you'd probably believe that, wouldn't you? believe this. probably believe that, wouldn't you’il believe this. probably believe that, wouldn't you’il just believe this. probably believe that, wouldn't you’il just feel believe this. probably believe that, wouldn't you’il just feel though'e this. probably believe that, wouldn't you’il just feel though some. and i just feel as though some people trying to people maybe you're trying to have and eat it and have their cake and eat it and why can't we just see the reality britain? reality of britain? vaiews@gbnews.uk. get your views reminder, views coming in just a reminder, though, the sad news though, of some of the sad news that this that broke earlier on in this show, that legendary show, which is that legendary talk jerry springer talk show host jerry springer has i'm going to be having has died. i'm going to be having a some of jerry a little look at some of jerry springer's best bits patrick springer's best bits on patrick christys on gb news.

work out how britain moves forward from this. join us here on gb news. the yes . well, on gb news. the yes. well, welcome back, cit \ «its well, welcome back, everybody. patrick cnrieiwe— welcome back, everybody. patrick cnrieiwe nere— welcome back, everybody. patrick christys here on— welcome back, everybody. patrick christys here on gb— welcome back, everybody. patrick christys here on gb news now verv— christys here on gb news now verw enoniw— christys here on gb news now verw enoniw rin— christys here on gb news now very shortly i'm going to be noniing— very shortly i'm going to be handing over— very shortly i'm going to be handing over to— very shortly i'm going to be handing over to michelle iewierrw— handing over to michelle iewierrw. so— handing over to michelle dewberry. so make sure you don't niee— dewberry. so make sure you don't iioi— dewberry. so make sure you don't miss that. she's— dewberry. so make sure you don't miss that. she's going to be noiiooiing— miss that. she's going to be hotfooting.in_ miss that. she's going to be hotfooting in you hotfooting it in to tell you evoeiiw— hotfooting it in to tell you exactly-coming- hotfooting it in to tell you. exactly-coming-but exactly what's coming up. but inie— exactly what's coming up. but iwe-irowgnr- exactly what's coming up. but this-broughtlmy. this clip was brought to my oiieniion— this clip was brought to my attention earlier on. so this clip was brought to my attent has earlier on. so this clip was brought to my attent has beenzarlier on. so this clip was brought to my attent has been arlier on. so this clip was brought to my attent has been a big on. so this clip was brought to my attent has been a big day so this clip was brought to my attent has been a big day for the today has been a big day for the neoiin— today has been a big day for the health service.— today has been a big day for the health service. so— today has been a big day for the health service. so nurses, as we know,— health service. so nurses, as we inowore— o- health service. so nurses, as we inowore— o 54%1 health service. so nurses, as we. know,_are a 54% of

know, some of them are a 54% of us, know, some of them are a 54% of oiio— know, some of them are a 54% of us, 61% turnout— know, some of them are a 54% of us, 61% turnout at— know, some of them are a 54% of us, 61% turnout at royal us, 61% turnout at the royal coiiege— us, 61% turnout at the royal college _voted i us, 61% turnout at the royal college _voted to| us, 61% turnout at the royal. college _voted to go college of nursing voted to go on eiriie— college of nursing voted to go on strike. now,— college of nursing voted to go on strike. now, the health seereiorw— on strike. now, the health secretary steve- on strike. now, the health secretary steve barclay, was sayingr — secretary steve barclay, was eowing. weii— secretary steve barclay, was saying, well, strike is saying, well, this strike is iiiegoi. — saying, well, this strike is iiiegoi. ani— saying, well, this strike is illegal. and to- saying, well, this strike is illegal. and to be fair, now it iwrne— illegal. and to be fair, now it iwrne owi— illegal. and to be fair, now it turns out that— illegal. and to be fair, now it turns out thatlis- illegal. and to be fair, now it turns out that is unlawful turns out that it is unlawful ieeowee— turns out that it is unlawful because-been- turns out that it is unlawful because been through because it's been through the eowne— because it's been through the. eowne—io courts and they're not going to be courts and they're not going to ie-io— courts and they're not going to ie-io eiriie— courts and they're not going to be-to strike. but- courts and they're not going to be to strike. but we did be able to strike. but we did nove— be able to strike. but we did nove o— be able to strike. but we did nove o oiio— be able to strike. but we did have a clip earlier on of keir siorner— have a clip earlier on of keir siorner oni— have a clip earlier on of keir starmer and angela rayner just reoeiing— starmer and angela rayner just reoeiing io— starmer and angela rayner just reacting to this,— starmer and angela rayner just reacting to this, saying essentially _ reacting to this, saying essentially in a nutshell so inor— essentially in a nutshell so no inew— essentially in a nutshell so that they thought that they enowii — that they thought that they should deal— that they thought that they should deal with the real issue, the government— should deal with the real issue, the government not take nurses to the government not take nurses io-over— the government not take nurses io-over ine— the government not take nurses to-over this. but- the government not take nurses to-over this. but i- the government not take nurses to over this. but i was to court over this. but i was woiening— to court over this. but i was watching thought to court over this. but i wasi watching-thought , watching this and i thought, ioeen-i— watching this and i thought, ioeen-i ii— watching this and i thought, doesn't it look— watching this and i thought, doesn't it look a— watching this and i thought, doesn't it look a bit like when an doesn't it look a bit like when on oioiogeiie— doesn't it look a bit like when an apologetic dad comes to knock on someone's front— an apologetic dad comes to knock on someone's front door to oioiogiee— on someone's front door to oioiogiee ior— on someone's front door to apologise for the behaviour of his apologise for the behaviour of nie iowgnier— apologise for the behaviour of his daughter ?_ apologise for the behaviour of his daughter ? i— apologise for the behaviour of his daughter ? i just absolutely his daughter? i just absolutely got his daughter? i just absolutely goi ne— his daughter? i just absolutely goi ii— his daughter? i just absolutely goi ii oe— his daughter? i just absolutely got me. it was like, look, angeio-e— got me. it was like, look, angeio-e verw— got me. it was like, look, angela's very ,- got me. it was like, look, angela's very , very sorry about got me. it was like, look, ange she very , very sorry about got me. it was like, look, ange she said , very sorry about got me. it was like, look, ange she said to ery sorry about got me. it was like, look, ange she said to you;orry about got me. it was like, look, ange she said to you aty about got me. it was like, look, ange she said to you at school, what she said to you at school, all what she said to you at school, oii rignii— what she said to you at school, oii rignri ani— what she said to you at school, all right? and won't all right? and she won't be eowing— all right? and she won't be eowinglio— all right? and she won't be sayinglto-again,- all right? and she won't be saying to again, will saying it to you again, will you,— saying it to you again, will your angeioi— saying it to you again, will you, angela? you? saying it to you again, will you, angela? .you? no, you, angela? will you? no. no, i oni— you, angela? will you? no. no, i oi i— you, angela? will you? no. no, i oi i oni— you, angela? will you? no. no, i won't. i won't. there we go. so won't. iwon't. there we go. so were— won't. iwon't. there we go. so inere we— won't. iwon't. there we go. so inere we go.— won't. iwon't. there we go. so inere we go. i— won't. iwon't. there we go. so there we go. i just— won't. i won't. there we go. so there we go. i just thought i'd iring— there we go. i just thought i'd iring inor— there we go. i just thought i'd iring inoi io— there we go. i just thought i'd bring that to your attention. anyway — bring that to your attention. anyway, michelle dewberry has noiiooiei— anyway, michelle dewberry has hotfooted _the _forl hotfooted it into the studio for us hotfooted it into the studio for we—vee- hotfooted it into the studio for we—vee wnoil hotfooted it into the studio for. us_yes what have us now. michelle? yes what have you us now. michelle? yes what have wow—ior— us now. michelle? yes what have you—for-you'vel you got lined up for us? you've got you got lined up for us? you've goi-oi—

you got lined up for us? you've goi-oi rime— you got lined up for us? you've got-of time today,- you got lined up for us? you've got of time today, which got a bit of time today, which i owe— got a bit of time today, which i quite-actually. - got a bit of time today, which i quite actually. gt“ quite like, actually. oh, gosh. ioee— quite like, actually. oh, gosh. ieee inor— quite like, actually. oh, gosh. does that mean i've got to talk to you? yeah, it does. oh, i try hard to avoid do i? what hard to avoid you. do i? what have coming well, i do have i got coming up? well, i do want get into this rcn nurses want to get into this rcn nurses thing because i, anyone will thing because i, as anyone will know, show. my know, that watches my show. my mum and sister are nurses. i want the pay want them to get the pay rise. but something about the but there's something about the approach of the rcn don't approach of the rcn that i don't really to really like and i want to get into that because it's really divided opinion teachers as well . they're . further strikes, they're happening have i got happening. what else have i got coming up ? yeah, oil, coming up? oh, yeah, oil, oil, gas, etcetera . should we be just gas, etcetera. should we be just going for it now and trying to extract it from the uk or not? again people divide on that one. aren't they all? so national bullying helpline . they're bullying helpline. they're raising concerns, right about the kids that are filming the battering of the other kids and putting it on social media. i basically and you might think i'm a bit harsh, i blame it on parents. you blame bullies on ioreniei— parents. you blame bullies on ioreniei no,— parents. you blame bullies on ioreniei no, i— parents. you blame bullies on parents? no, i think- you blame bullies on parents? no, i think all the wie— parents? no, i think all the iiie ieing— parents? no, i think all the kids being like— parents? no, i think all the kids being like feral kids that are kids being like feral kids that ore-going— kids being like feral kids that are going around behaving are like going around behaving oieoiwieiw— are like going around behaving absolutely appallingly . �*ifviitcc absolutely appallingly. well, i'm absolutely appallingly. well, in reoiiw—

absolutely appallingly. well, i'm really sorry,— absolutely appallingly. well, i'm really sorry, but- absolutely appallingly. well, i'm really sorry, but i- absolutely appallingly. well, i'm really sorry, but i think the buck stops with you as a parent. it's your job. but one parent. it's yourjob. but one of them parent. it's yourjob. but one oi inen one— parent. it's yourjob. but one of them one of— parent. it's yourjob. but one of them one of the- :»tiit;“c c , but one of them one of the problems :»tii“ct; c , but one of them one of the problems is inie— of them one of the problems is inie wnion— of them one of the problems is this, which is— of them one of the problems is this, which is that— of them one of the problems is this, which is that it this, which is that now it oiieore— this, which is that now it oiieore io— this, which is that now it appears to that schools are appears to be that schools are reoening— appears to be that schools are reoening-ine— appears to be that schools are reaching-the-of- reaching into the lives of iorenie— reaching into the lives of parents saying, reaching into the lives of parents-saying, going parents and saying, we're going to parents and saying, we're going io—iii- to try and parent your kid ieiien— to try and parent your kid better. .that's- to try and parent your kid better. that's right across better. and that's right across the better. and that's right across ine-on— better. and that's right across the-on loads- better. and that's right across the on loads different better. and that's right across the aspectsoads different better. and that's right across the aspects ofis different better. and that's right across the aspects of it. different better. and that's right across the aspects of it. andfferent social aspects of it. and i woneir— social aspects of it. and i wonder now,— social aspects of it. and i wonder now, is- social aspects of it. and i wonder now, is it any wonder inor— wonder now, is it any wonder inoi iorenie— wonder now, is it any wonder that parents, you— wonder now, is it any wonder that parents, you know, look at wonder now, is it any wonder th and arents, you know, look at wonder now, is it any wonder th and go, ts, you know, look at wonder now, is it any wonder th and go, well,u know, look at wonder now, is it any wonder th and go, well, i know, look at wonder now, is it any wonder thand go, well, i have, look at wonder now, is it any wonder thand go, well, i have raisedat wonder now, is it any wonder thand go, well, i have raised a it and go, well, i have raised a iiiiie— it and go, well, i have raised a little terrier,— it and go, well, i have raised a little terrier, but— it and go, well, i have raised a little terrier, but it's not my iowii— fault. it's probably got iroioiiw— fault. it's probably got- probably—lame probably yeah, it is a lame iwi— probably yeah, it is a lame excuse, but it's— probably yeah, it is a lame excuse, but it's probably got wini— excuse, but it's probably got aini oni— excuse, but it's probably got aini oni wow— excuse, but it's probably got adhd and you know, it's the ieoenere— adhd and you know, it's the ieoenere-ii— adhd and you know, it's the teachers-if-sit- adhd and you know, it's the. teachers - if. sit there teachers fault. if you sit there oni— teachers fault. if you sit there oni wow— teachers fault. if you sit there and you because,— teachers fault. if you sit there and you because, you know, you know,— and you because, you know, you know-iii — and you because, you know, you know-umbi- and you because, you know, you know,_kid-bit of- and you because, you know, you know,_kid-bit of a. know, if your kid is a bit of a wrong— know, if your kid is a bit of a wrong-wow— know, if your kid is a bit of a wrong-you know,- know, if your kid is a bit of a wrong you know, unless wrong and you know, unless inere-e— wrong and you know, unless inere-e eoe— wrong and you know, unless there's some unless you just know— there's some unless you just know-inni— there's some unless you just- know _think-around know and i think turning around and know and i think turning around one-ii— know and i think turning around oni-iiline-ori and blaming it on the school or wowr—ieewei and blaming it on the school or wowr—ieewe ori your neighbour or this issue or inor— your neighbour or this issue or no ieewe— your neighbour or this issue or that issue, it's— your neighbour or this issue or that issue, it's just irresponsible. �*ifviitcc c that issue, it's just— irresponsible. well, it's buck passing doesn't wash with passing and it doesn't wash with me. so actually i would as me. so actually i would go as far as saying you breed these far as saying if you breed these kids, you them up in kids, if you bring them up in this behave in this this way and they behave in this way, as the parent, it's you way, you as the parent, it's you that be getting charged. that should be getting charged. yeah, inclined with yeah, i'm inclined to agree with you. i think you. absolutely. and i think ii-e— you. absolutely. and i think ii-eliroiien.— you. absolutely. and i think. it'slproblem.-sure. it's a problem. dumas. sure. wow— it's a problem. dumas. sure. woven-_— it's a problem. dumas. sure. now-on. yeah.- it's a problem. dumas. sure. now-on. yeah. no,i it's a problem. dumas. sure. . now-on. yeah. no, you now i can go on. yeah. no, you eon-i— now i can go on. yeah. no, you eon-.i weii— now i can go on. yeah. no, you eon-.i weii i— now i can go on. yeah. no, you can't. well, i tell— now i can go on. yeah. no, you can't. well, i tell you- \»t»w »tti“ gt» yeah. no, you can't. well, i tell you what, iii— can't. well, i tell you what, i'll definitely— can't. well, i tell you what, i'll definitely be— can't. well, i tell you what, i'll definitely be watching that

ieeowee— i'll definitely be watching that because-you're- because i think you're absolutely— because i think you're. absolutely-and because i think you're- absolutely-and i'm absolutely spot on. and i'm iieoeei— absolutely spot on. and i'm pleased that— absolutely spot on. and i'm pleased that you actually say absolutely spot on. and i'm pleasai that you actually say absolutely spot on. and i'm pleasa lot at you actually say absolutely spot on. and i'm pleasa lot ofyou actually say absolutely spot on. and i'm pleasa lot of people jally say absolutely spot on. and i'm pleasa lot of people don't;ay absolutely spot on. and i'm pleasa lot of people don't say, what a lot of people don't say, wnion— what a lot of people don't say, wnion-know,— what a lot of people don't say, which-know, when - what a lot of people don't say, which know, when you see which is, you know, when you see inoee— which is, you know, when you see inoee wie— which is, you know, when you see those kids running— those kids running around a reeowronii— those kids running around a- restaurant,_ruining restaurant, for example, ruining wowr—give- restaurant, for example, ruining wowr—give ineni restaurant, for example, ruining. wowr—give inen o your meal, i want to give them a iiiiie— your meal, i want to give them a iiiiie-wnier— your meal, i want to give them a little-under the— your meal, i want to give them a little under the table. little kick under the table. rive— little kick under the table. i-ve goi— little kick under the table. i-ve goi o— little kick under the table. i've got a confession- little kick under the table. i've got a confession to make now did get off now because i did get told off the by a restaurant the other day by a restaurant guy letting for letting guy for letting for letting my child posh restaurant. child i want a posh restaurant. it an average pub. it was just like an average pub. and told off because i did and he told me off because i did let child run around. i did, let my child run around. i did, right. i've just contradicted himself no, himself massively. well, no, i think-difference- himself massively. well, no, i think-difference to l think there's a difference to it, think there's a difference to n, ien-i— think there's a difference to it, isn't there?— think there's a difference to it, isn't there? the ones whoi ore—ieing are like, you know, are being really— are like, you know, are being really, outrageous. ' “»: really, really outrageous. and the really, really outrageous. and one—woni- really, really outrageous. and one—woni io- really, really outrageous. and the—want to be- really, really outrageous. and the—want to be fairj the other ones want to be fair to me before starts to me before everyone starts crying. a quiet crying. it was quite a quiet pub, wasn't a posh restaurant pub, it wasn't a posh restaurant and it the middle of the and it was in the middle of the day, like romantic day, not like a romantic saturday everyone's day, not like a romantic saturdto everyone's day, not like a romantic saturdto have everyone's day, not like a romantic saturdto have quiet everyone's day, not like a romantic saturdto have quiet adultyone's day, not like a romantic saturdto have quiet adult time.; day, not like a romantic saturdto have quiet adult time. trying to have quiet adult time. absolutely. well, look, michelle absoluteljwillell, look, michelle absolutelrwillell, with. michelle absoluteljwillell, with you :helle trying to have quiet adult time. absoluteljwillell, with you very, dewberry will be with you very, verv— dewberry will be with you very, very-and — dewberry will be with you very, verw-ani iii— dewberry will be with you very, very-and i'll tell- dewberry will be with you very, very and i'll tell you very shortly. and i'll tell you wnw,— very shortly. and i'll tell you war, inor— very shortly. and i'll tell you what, that sounds an what, that sounds like an oieoiwie— what, that sounds like an absolute firecracker show, absolute firecracker of a show, ioeen-i— absolute firecracker of a show, ooeersiringer.— absolute firecracker of a show, doesispringer. so _ absolute firecracker of a show, doesispringer. so the tv host jerry springer. so the tv host wno— jerry springer. so the tv host wno enongei— jerry springer. so the tv host who changed the— jerry springer. so the tv host who changed the talk show game iorever— who changed the talk show game iorever noe— who changed the talk show game forever has-died— who changed the talk show game forever has died the age forever has now died at the age of forever has now died at the age oi-woe— forever has now died at the age oi-woe-in- forever has now died at the age of-was-in london,i of 79. he was born in london, eervei— of 79. he was born in london, eerveiliiowor— of 79. he was born in london, served-mayor of- of 79. he was born in london, served mayor of cincinnati served as mayor of cincinnati oni— served as mayor of cincinnati one—noneeii and provided let's be honest wiri— and provided let's be honest with—amounts. and provided let's be honesti with—amounts of with you, a huge amounts of oieoiwie— with you, a huge amounts ofi oieoiwie—i with you, a huge amounts of- oieoiwie—i on

absolute tv gold moments. i am ioinei— absolute tv gold moments. i am roinei-iw— absolute tv gold moments. i am joined-by american- absolute tv gold moments. i am joined by american blogger joined now by american blogger and joined now by american blogger oni oiioreniiw— joined now by american blogger oni oiioreniiw o— joined now by american blogger and apparently a legend himself, reree— and apparently a legend himself, ieee-— and apparently a legend himself, reree- rere— and apparently a legend himself, perez-. perez, how- and apparently a legend himself, perez . perez, how have perez hilton. perez, how have you— perez hilton. perez, how have wow-nove— perez hilton. perez, how have wow-nove wow— perez hilton. perez, how have you have you managed to cope you how have you managed to cope wiri— you how have you managed to cope wiin ine— you how have you managed to cope wiin ine ee— you how have you managed to cope with the news-jerry— you how have you managed to cope with the news jerry springer? with the news of jerry springer? sad with the news of jerry springer? soi ioeeing — with the news of jerry springer? soi ioeeing i — with the news of jerry springer? sad passing ? you— with the news of jerry springer? sad passing ? v»/»tc. sad passing? you know, i celebrate his life and look back at what an eclectic career he had from politics, from law to about 30 years as a talk show host. he to me and many others is are and will remain a great inspiration on. yeah indeed. what do you think made him so eieeioie— what do you think made him so eieeioii io— what do you think made him so eieeioie io wow— what do you think made him so special? do you think it was iwei— special? do you think it was we nie— special? do you think it was just his ability— special? do you think it was just his ability to unashamedly iroviie— just his ability to unashamedly proviielinoi— just his ability to unashamedly provide that despite what provide tv that despite what a lot provide tv that despite what a ioi oi— provide tv that despite what a ioi oi woie— provide tv that despite what a lot of woke people might think is unacceptable,— lot of woke people might think is unacceptable, is deeply ioiwior— is unacceptable, is deeply ioiwior i — is unacceptable, is deeply ioiwiore i— is unacceptable, is deeply popular ? c popular? i think it was jerry's ability to not pass judgement on what was unfolding in front of him , which for many episodes of him, which for many episodes of his show was quite shocking and controversial people. that's what he was known- {.»t» . that's what he was known for , for the what he was known for, for the eeonioiowe— what he was known for, for the

scandalous guests, the fights inor— scandalous guests, the fights inoi noi— scandalous guests, the fights inoi noi io— scandalous guests, the fights that had to be— scandalous guests, the fights that had to be broken apart. ani— that had to be broken apart. wno ior— that had to be broken apart. wno ior we— that had to be broken apart. and for us, the— that had to be broken apart. and for us, the viewer,- that had to be broken apart. and for us, the viewer, it- that had to be broken apart. and for us, the viewer, it was great escapism . we watched that great escapism. we watched that and great escapism. we watched that oni we — great escapism. we watched that oni we eoii— great escapism. we watched that oni we eoii io— gittic t we watched that and we said to ourselves, my iiie— and we said to ourselves, my iiie ie— and we said to ourselves, my iiie ie noi— and we said to ourselves, my life is not as— and we said to ourselves, my life is not as bad— and we said to ourselves, my life is not as bad as that person's . but- life is not as bad as that person's . “g person's. but the thing is, you're so right. you could be having an absolute terrible day. you could be sitting around and in the ruins of your own life, right? and you turn on jerry spfinger right? and you turn on jerry springer and there would be someone having an even bigger shocker than you . do you think shocker than you. do you think that he had a certain likeability? he didn't see? he had a certain likeability. everyone felt as though they knew him exactly albie that every man quality . he definitely every man quality. he definitely eervei— every man quality. he definitely eervei nin— every man quality. he definitely served him well— every man quality. he definitely served him well . _ every man quality. he definitely served him well . well,- 3 ti“ »:c.tic cg he definitely served him well . �*itviitcc every man quality. he definitely served him well . well, you know, served him well. well, you know, it's not like joan rivers, whom i loved , another icon rest in i loved, another icon rest in peace. but joan was a bit like ine— peace. but joan was a bit like the expression— peace. but joan was a bit like the expression she— t but joan was a bit like the expression she was like iiorniie— the expression she was like marmite. you— the expression she was like marmite. you either loved her or you— marmite. you either loved her or wow noiei— marmite. you either loved her or wow noiei ner— marmite. you either loved her or you hated her. whereas jerry springer— you hated her. whereas jerry springer oe— you hated her. whereas jerry springer was universally, i wowii— springer was universally, i wowii eow— springer was universally, i wowii eow ,— springer was universally, i would say , adored and quite

would say, adored and quite igni— would say, adored and quite right. specially— would say, adored and quite right. specially all ages, eoiiege— right. specially all ages, college students watched jerry springer— college students watched jerry springerwnen— college students watched jerry springer when they were in their iorne— springer when they were in their iorne in— springer when they were in their dorms. in between— springer when they were in their dorms. in between classes, grononoinere— dorms. in between classes, grandmothers at home watched jerry— grandmothers at home watched jerry springer— grandmothers at home watched jerry springer ,— grandmothers at home watched jerry springer , people waiting jerry springer, people waiting in, jerry springer, people waiting in ioeiore— jerry springer, people waiting in, doctors offices would watch jerry— in, doctors offices would watch jerry springer.— in, doctors offices would watch jerry springer. and he was on our television— jerry springer. and he was on our television shows for three iiwe— our television shows for three iiwe oeeoiee— our television shows for three plus decades . _ our television shows for three plus decades . he- our television shows for three plus decades . »t; ”»tticcg t“»: plus decades. he was really and he was an absolute institution. perez d0 he was an absolute institution. perez do you think they could make the show today? because a lot of people have tried, but they've had to turn it down a bit . i i don't know if that's bit. i i don't know if that's what society wants or at least that's not what they say . we're that's not what they say. we're a lot of hypocritical— we're a lot of hypocritical people who say a lot of hypocritical people who eow one— a lot of hypocritical people who eow ining— a lot of hypocritical people who say one thing and— a lot of hypocritical people who say one thing and then really woni— say one thing and then really want another— say one thing and then really want another at— say one thing and then really want another at the end of the iow. — want another at the end of the iow. snowing.— want another at the end of the day. shocking. does well and ieoiie— day. shocking. does well and ieoiie eiiii— day. shocking. does well and people still want— day. shocking. does well and people still want that kind of eovei— people still want that kind of eovei iree— people still want that kind of saved free content. so i think it saved free content. so i think ii eowii— saved free content. so i think ii eowii ie— saved free content. so i think it could be done— saved free content. so i think it could be done well. and you know— it could be done well. and you know wno— it could be done well. and you know who would— it could be done well. and you know who would do it very well. uh, know who would do it very well. uh, reree— know who would do it very well. uh, perez hilton— know who would do it very well. uh, perez hilton . _ know who would do it very well. uh, perez hilton . icii“ know who would do it very well. uh, perez hilton . iciit“

uh, perez hilton. oh, never misses a beat. this uh, perez hilton. oh, never misses a beat . this guy uh, perez hilton. oh, never misses a beat. this guy never misses a beat. this guy never misses a beat. this guy never misses a beat. good misses a beat. this guy never misses a beat . good stuff, misses a beat. good stuff, perez. absolute pleasure. you take care. and thank you for coming on at short notice. much appreciated. a little bit of a stardust to off the show. stardust to finish off the show. much needed perez hilton, american blogger. and it says much needed perez hilton, ameiinan blogger. and it says much needed perez hilton, ameiin my logger . and it says much needed perez hilton, ameiin my autocue and it says much needed perez hilton, ameiin my autocue legendiays much needed perez hilton, ameiin my autocue legend .ys much needed perez hilton, ameiin my autocue legend . yeah, here in my autocue legend. yeah, there we go. right. okay, everyone , look, you very, everyone, look, thank you very, very everybody who's very much. for everybody who's been getting touch throughout been getting in touch throughout the show well. the course of this show as well. i've christys. i i've been patrick christys. i will hand you to michelle will hand you over to michelle dewberry, fantastic will hand you over to michelle dewtranging fantastic will hand you over to michelle dewtranging show fantastic will hand you over to michelle dewtranging show coming astic wide ranging show coming your way. include as well way. it will include as well a topic think a of you topic that i think a lot of you will feel very, very strongly about are unruly kids. actually actually of own actually the fault of their own creators? fault of the creators? is it the fault of the parents? parents be parents? should the parents be disciplined christys disciplined in patrick christys britain? they certainly would. but have to try to but i'm going to have to try to lobby michelle to me on as a lobby michelle to get me on as a panellist at point one panellist at some point on one of because she always of her shows because she always manages my buttons when manages to press my buttons when it the topics that she it comes to the topics that she covers. look, i'll be back covers. so look, i'll be back again at 3 for again tomorrow at 3 pm. for another outing. you another lively outing. thank you very who's tuned another lively outing. thank you verwho's who's tuned another lively outing. thank you verwho's in who's tuned another lively outing. thank you verwho's in touch. ho's tuned another lively outing. thank you verwho's in touch. and tuned another lively outing. thank you verwho's in touch. and make in, who's got in touch. and make sure you back clips, sure you watch back the clips, of youtube and indeed of course, on youtube and indeed on twitter at gb news. you

on twitter at gb news. see you tomorrow three. peace out. tomorrow at three. peace out. alex deakin here with your latest the latest weather update from the met we met office. turning warmer as we neoi—iwil head towards the weekend. but it's head towards the weekend. but we ieen— head towards the weekend. but it's been definitely turning weiier— it's been definitely turning wetter today. _ it's been definitely turning wetter today. that rain still oowni— around in places tomorrow, but it around in places tomorrow, but ii—go it should brighten up as we go inrowgn— it should brighten up as we go inrowgn ine— it should brighten up as we go through the day— it should brighten up as we go through the day and some places reoiiw—worn- through the day and some places reoiiw—worn wi- through the day and some places reoiiw—worn w by. really starting to warm up by tomorrow-today,l tomorrow afternoon. today, inowgn— tomorrow afternoon. today,| though, _ little though, we've got this little weoiner— weather feature set of weather ironie—eonel fronts just sploshing in some roin— fronts just sploshing in some roin-ine— fronts just sploshing in some rain the south—west rain from the south—west reoening— rain from the south—west reaching eastern areas through this reaching eastern areas through inie evening.— reaching eastern areas through this evening. some drier spells ieveioiing— this evening. some drier spells developing overnight across ione— developing overnight across ione oi— developing overnight across parts of central— developing overnight across parts of central scotland and eowinern— parts of central scotland and southern england. but for most evieei— southern england. but for most expect outbreaks— southern england. but for most expect outbreaks of rain and irizzie— expect outbreaks of rain and irizzie io— expect outbreaks of rain and drizzle to come— expect outbreaks of rain and drizzle to come and go. some of inor— drizzle to come and go. some of no roin— drizzle to come and go. some of that rain, heavy— drizzle to come and go. some of that rain, heavy in— drizzle to come and go. some of that rain, heavy in places, gwiie— that rain, heavy in places, gwiie breezy— that rain, heavy in places, quite breezy at- that rain, heavy in places, quite breezy at times as well . quite breezy at times as well. iwi— quite breezy at times as well. iwi-oii— quite breezy at times as well. but-all-cloud- quite breezy at times as well. but-all-cloud and. quite breezy at times as well. but all cloud and the but with all the cloud and the win— but with all the cloud and the roin|ii— but with all the cloud and the roin|ii won-i— but with all the cloud and the rainiit won't-a _ but with all the cloud and the rain it won't a cold night. rain, it won't be a cold night. iiwen— rain, it won't be a cold night. iiwen-inon— rain, it won't be a cold night.. much-than-nights much milder than recent nights wiri— much milder than recent nights with temperatures in the south eiowing— with temperatures in the south eiowing-iigwree- with temperatures in the south eiowing-iigwree .- with temperatures in the south staying figures . a staying in double figures. a grey— staying in double figures. a grew gran,— staying in double figures. a grey start, though, for most of to grey start, though, for most of io we— grey start, though, for most of io we rriiow— grey start, though, for most of to us friday morning and still gwiie— to us friday morning and still gwiie ioni— to us friday morning and still quite damp-well.- to us friday morning and still quite damp well. areas quite damp as well. some areas of quite damp as well. some areas oi-eroeeing— quite damp as well. some areas of-crossing back— quite damp as well. some areas of crossing back through of rain crossing back through scoring— of rain crossing back through scotland, northeast england eeieeioiiw,— scotland, northeast england especially, slowly arnie especially, but slowly arnie ewee— especially, but slowly arnie eiiee viii— especially, but slowly arnie skies will start— especially, but slowly arnie skies will start to brighten and by iwneniine— skies will start to brighten and by lunchtime parts of the west oneering— by lunchtime parts of the west oneering wi— by lunchtime parts of the west cheering up and— by lunchtime parts of the west cheering up and by the afternoon noei— cheering up and by the afternoon noei iioeee— cheering up and by the afternoon noer iioeee orw— cheering up and by the afternoon noer iioeee orw .— cheering up and by the afternoon most places dry . possibility of

most places dry. possibility of 1 most places dry. possibility of i or— most places dry. possibility of i or 2— most places dry. possibility of i or 2 neovw— most places dry. possibility of 1 or 2 heavy showers coming into wonnern— 1 or 2 heavy showers coming into northern ireland— 1 or 2 heavy showers coming into northern ireland and northeastern parts of scotland. always— northeastern parts of scotland. always iiieiw— northeastern parts of scotland. always likely to _ northeastern parts of scotland. always likely to stay fairly ioni. — always likely to stay fairly ooni. iwi— always likely to stay fairly damp. but generally turning iner— damp. but generally turning drier_ sunshine. . damp. but generally turning. drier—sunshine. quite drier with some sunshine. quite worn-eowin— drier with some sunshine. quite warm-south. 1819- drier with some sunshine. quite warm south. 1819 feeling warm in the south. 1819 feeling eoiier— warm in the south. 1819 feeling eoiier-ine— warm in the south. 1819 feeling colder-the cloud- warm in the south. 1819 feeling colder the cloud across colder with the cloud across nwen— colder with the cloud across nwen oi— colder with the cloud across nwen oi ine— colder with the cloud across much of the northeast as the nonneriw— much of the northeast as the northerly winds— much of the northeast as the northerly winds return the chill to northerly winds return the chill io nonnern— northerly winds return the chill to northern scotland during rriiow— to northern scotland during rriiow oni— to northern scotland during friday and friday night. most iioeee— friday and friday night. most iioeee orw— friday and friday night. most iioeee do on— friday and friday night. most places dry on friday night, inowgn— places dry on friday night, inowgn. ine— places dry on friday night, though, the cloud tending to ireoi— though, the cloud tending to ireoi wi— though, the cloud tending to ireoi w o— though, the cloud tending to break up a little— though, the cloud tending to break up a little bit, leading inio— break up a little bit, leading inio o— break up a little bit, leading inio o iii— break up a little bit, leading into a bit of— break up a little bit, leading into a bit of a— break up a little bit, leading into a bit of a mixed picture for into a bit of a mixed picture ior soiwriow. — into a bit of a mixed picture for saturday. cloudy with some rain across central— for saturday. cloudy with some rain across central and southern seoiioni— rain across central and southern seoiioni .— rain across central and southern seoiioni . ani— rain across central and southern scotland . and then the scotland. and then through the day,— scotland. and then through the iow-ieow— scotland. and then through the day, heavy showers may be day, some heavy showers may be oeveioiing— day, some heavy showers may be oeveioiing oni— day, some heavy showers may be developing and northern england, woni— developing and northern england, wonn woiee— developing and northern england, north wales, northern ireland, neee— north wales, northern ireland, neee in— north wales, northern ireland, whereas in the— north wales, northern ireland, whereas in the south, actually noei— most places looking dry and irigni. — most places looking dry and bright. saturday and largely bright. on saturday and largely dry bright. on saturday and largely orw in— bright. on saturday and largely do in nonnern— bright. on saturday and largely dry in northern scotland, oiinowgn— dry in northern scotland, although here. although still cold here. elsewhere _ although still cold here. elsewhere though, it is starting to elsewhere though, it is starting io iwrn— elsewhere though, it is starting to turn. milder_ elsewhere though, it is starting to turn. milder temperatures in the to turn. milder temperatures in we eowin— to turn. milder temperatures in the south could— to turn. milder temperatures in the south could reach 20 c and it the south could reach 20 c and ii wiii— the south could reach 20 c and ii wiii iwrn— the south could reach 20 c and it will turn milder— the south could reach 20 c and it will turn milder even in nonnern— it will turn milder even in northern scotland by the time we get northern scotland by the time we gei io — northern scotland by the time we gei ro swniow— northern scotland by the time we get to sunday and— northern scotland by the time we get to sunday and monday. a nixiwre— get to sunday and monday. a mixture this— get to sunday and monday. a mixture this weekend of lengthy, dry mixture this weekend of lengthy, iw—ierioie- mixture this weekend of lengthy, iw—ierioie ,- mixture this weekend of lengthy, iw—ierioie . iwi- mixture this weekend of lengthy, dry periods , but some dry and bright periods, but some neovw— dry and bright periods, but some neovw eonwee— dry and bright periods, but some

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planned strike for this weekend . no more. not to the extent it was supposed to be, because the government has won its challenge in the courts. the rcn leader, though, the union leader, she says it is one of the darkest days in the negotiations of the strikes. now, before you all start shouting at me, i want to make my point clear. start shouting at me, i want to make my point clear . yes, make my point clear. yes, i support a pay rise for our hard working nurses, but i think the way that the rcn are going about things now is absolutely wrong. where do you stand on it?